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34:20The other one was the Bucs game where the whole secondary was hurt. It sucks for him, dude. I mean, he was so good in this game. It's crazy. Going back and watching, he was even better than I remembered. like it's like it was he was not throwing a wide open guys like these were there were some throws in this game where everybody was in perfect coverage and it just didn't matter because Stafford was just on one um yeah however which I mean this isn't a a knock against Matt Stafford but like I know that the Seahawks defense wasn't as dominant as we expect them to be but they made plays. And our boy Devin Witherspoon on that final drive where he made the two big pass breakups on third and fourth down where they, to your point about using the receivers as a decoy, on the fourth down, they used Nakua as a decoy.

35:14They used motion to try to create, well, not try to, they used motion to create the leverage for, what's the Titans' name? Anyway, 18, the one where they threw the ball to the back. I want to say, yeah, to create leverage for Ferguson. And they set Puka right down in front and drew a bunch of tension. But Witherspoon is outside and undercuts it to get inside. It's just an incredible play. They wanted Williams in that moment. And I'm sure you saw Sean McVay was like busted coverage. They got lucky after. Yeah. So the Seahawks often drop their defensive linemen at the line of script. They show a zero look and they drop them.

35:49Williams, Leonard Williams drops often. often. And I think it was Derek Hall who dropped and kind of rerouted Puka a little bit. What was going on the other side, on Williams' side, Julian Love's supposed to come. Yep. Balls. And I've talked to some people about what happened here because I was so curious about the intentions. Demarcus Lawrence, in that moment, sees him. And because that freaking dude has played so much goddamn football and is a brilliant player, he drops with Williams and takes away the hot. That's what you watch Matthew Savage home. That's what I'm watching it out. I'm rewinding it over and over again.

36:26What a goddamn football play. What an unbelievable signing. What a player. I didn't even realize that. I didn't notice that. I thought in the moment I was like, is he supposed to drop? Like what's going on? Watch him realize what's happening. It is unbelievably heads up play. That is incredible. Yeah. It's only a three man rush and he pulls out. Yeah, that's that's what a player. I want to go to the playmaking yes Matthew Stafford was amazing yes um Pukunikua killed him as he does yeah the difference though in this game and you could argue the difference between the two teams in some ways on third and fourth down to your point the Rams went two for ten the two conversions were one successful run and Matthew Stafford scramble which was honestly just shocking to see tomorrow DeMarcus Lawrence is like, what is happening?

37:19So, okay, Dominique, this is a crazy stat. Because I went back and watched them all yesterday. Ten third and fourth downs. Five of those plays, the Seahawks made PBUs. Five. 50 % of the third and fourth downs in this game. And two of them were runs. DBs. They got their hands on the football. You had Wollin on Puka. Yeah. You had Eamon Worry on the running back. I mean, Worry had a couple back-to-back. I guess that was a second and a third. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. You had the woolen PBU. That was a penalty, but it was an amazing play, unfortunately. And then he got coached.

37:59And then you had the two widowspoon ones. So you could, there's two things I think that I want to ask you about. One, you could argue the difference in this game was the physicality of the Rams. Not the total difference, but one of the differences was the Seahawks, yes. The Rams, Matthew Stavrook cooked him on early downs, but their length and physicality was a big difference. In tackling. In tackling. Yeah. Yeah, because, you know, Woolen's gigantic. Even Worry's gigantic. Devin Witherspoon is spiritually gigantic. He's like one of those, like, little dogs who thinks they're gigantic. Yeah. But he always backs it up.

38:34He also backs it up. But also, like, from a coverage standpoint, you could tell, and we talked about this in NFL Live, The thought process, think about the woolen pass breakup, was we got to get under them. We got to get in front of them. Because we know Maxie Stafford wants to throw in right into the middle of the field. And then we can get hands on the football, you know, whatever. And I just think, like, you saw that, the difference in the rosters on those plays in those moments. And I think it was also, like, a mature secondary, too, which, like, in the way that they approached this game. Because I think that having played Stafford a number of times made you comfortable.

39:09I think, and knowing like he's going to make plays because I could imagine another scenario where it's like, God damn, what are we doing? And, you know, and then you start to like press and you did see Woolen get aggressive and get beat on that double move. But it's also like, yeah, we know they're good. We know they're going to make plays. We're going to make it. And there was a couple of those passes that were just incredible throws that Matt Stafford made. Yeah. And then there were some that were just an inch off. Like, you notice so many of those plays are like. Or is Ernest Jones who's got like one finger away and like Matthew Stafford just tortures him.

39:41Yeah, like that one. It's like, all right, we can bounce back from that. And that's part of the reason why Matt Stafford had success against them, because it's rare that they just break down and people are running wide open. Stafford is one of the few people that I think is smart enough to understand the way the coverage is going to break down and then has the accuracy to complete it. But I think although the numbers weren't great, I loved the defensive performance in this game. I always go back to the thing Kyle Hamilton said to me about Matthew Stafford that year that I interviewed him, which he was like, look, sometimes you just got to take the L when you're playing him.

40:14He's like, I was in perfect spot. I think that's how the Seahawks felt after this game. He just is Matthew Stafford. Um, ultimately special teams ended up being the Rams undoing. I felt so awful. Xavier's the Rams preseason fave and he, he obviously screwed up and credited the Seahawks special teams as well, because I think, and, and Jay Harbaugh's unit, because, um, uh, you know, I think we've, when we see a muff paw, we always blame the returner, but those guys were in the position to make plays, um, special teams and cornerbacks. kind of the Rams ultimate undoing was like, what was the problem all year long?

40:59Wouldn't you say? Yeah, 100%. It's amazing how many special teams, how many games seem like special teams cost them a win like that just is so rare and they fired their coach. And then, but I don't know, I guess you combine, it's not true, but like that special teams play does kind of feel like in a low or a small point differential game, like that'll tilt it. We give them a short feel. But then you have that fourth and 15 that is converted by a sideline trash talk. But I don't know. I just ultimately, I still think the Seahawks are just better. I don't think that special teams play. Yeah. Yeah.

41:38It's just part of it. Yeah. No, no, I think it's part of it. I just didn't want it to. No, no, no. Yeah. I mean, but like, you know, in games as tight as this, it's like, okay. You can't have time. Yeah. And Rams were, I think they finished 26th in special teams. Stevie away, the Seahawks were second. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're not sure where to start? Thumbtack knows homes, so you don't have to. Don't know the difference between matte paint finish and satin? Or what that clunking sound from your dryer is? With Thumbtack, you don't have to be a home pro. You just have to hire one.

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43:30Call 1-800-GRAINGER, click grainger.com, or just stop by. All right, let's bring it down and on. Got Broncos patriots. All right, so it's funny because with the Broncos side of it, they asked us on live they're like what like what what did the broncos do wrong i'm like i brought it was a backup quarterback in a snowstorm like and it ultimately it was kind of like what we thought which was negative plays like bo nicks uh avoided negative plays and jared stidham had a couple really bad mistakes i think and you know like the the i think you have to give the patriots defense credit because even though the opponent the quarterback was obviously and then the broncos were missing some receivers.

44:14They had a lot of wins against that Broncos offensive line. Let's start there, Dominique, because that was, I think, the big question I had coming into this is like, okay, the Patriots defensive line has feasted on the Chargers and the Texans. Here comes a very good offensive line, and they looked pretty dominant in this one, even when setting aside Jarrett Siddham holding onto the football and whatnot. That was the most surprising thing from that game is I thought that that would be a decided advantage, not decided advantage that the Patriots would not have the advantages that they had in the last two games so this defense would look different even with Jared Stidham back there it would look different up front because they were running through a couple offensive lines that like were at the bottom of the league and for injury and otherwise so yeah that was surprising to me that um I guess we've rarely seen this Patriots defense at full strength but seeing them at full strength against this Broncos unit, even before the snowstorm started to hit, was very – I mean, they won.

45:10They won the line of scrimmage, which is something I didn't expect them to do. Yeah, and NFL Live, my take was, Milton Williams, you got what you paid for because he was awesome. Barmore made plays. Yeah, all got Katanga. I mean, well, I think that kind of brings me to the thing I wanted to also say about the Patriots. You and I were kind of at the beginning of the podcast alluding to this, Like, damn, all those signings hit. I was thinking that, like, when I think about this playoff run, you know, look, Drake Mays faced some really difficult defenses, but obviously hasn't been playing his best football, but did enough with his legs.

45:47And we can talk about that in a second. But, like, I just think, like, you can point to each of those free agent signings making such an impact in every game. Williams, Tonga, Spillane. run carlton davis literally you know game changing plays offensively even matt collins with the biggest play of the game here on the trick play um stefan diggs you know has been like they they really really hit it out of the park la wolf with their free agency class um so yeah like sometimes that's the difference right in like games like this is i was thinking about how bill belichick had that like giant free agency that didn't work out yeah a few years ago and and you know ultimately the the quarterback and the head coach are obviously the bigger changes but that's a big deal and it it's all over this playoff run yeah i was just looking down the list of the signings and like they're they're uh josh dobbs didn't contribute that was one that did that didn't contribute right away but who knows he might be great yeah yeah he might be great in the film room.

46:57I mean, scout team, you think that man can't run a scout team? Yeah, he got the defense ready. Yeah, he could take on, he's been in so many systems that he could take on the personality. All of them worked out. So yeah, it's a credit to the offseason and it's not even like, I mean, I guess Milton, I was going to say it wasn't even like there was one big one. Milton Williams was the big one. Chase Vaughn, Morgan Moses, I'm leaving, Like all these guys have been good. Yeah, I looked at it. I saw the Morgan Moses one and I was like, yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's been a great one. It just, it's that Texans game.

47:32It's hard to, that's fresh in my mind. It was, it was. More so on the left side, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I just, the offensive line in general went through. I mean, I liked the Diggs signing. You guys can go. I liked the Diggs and the Williams signings, which were the flashy ones. But I didn't have, and I liked the Davis signing too. I remember I was like, oh, yeah, like man corners. Love it. Chase on. Yeah. I'm not taking on them signing Claibon Chase on like, come on. He had big plays. I didn't. I love the Davis signing, but this might just be my bias. As even as a Maryland guy, I didn't love the digs one as much.

48:05I just didn't think I guess I didn't accept that the reason why he had fallen off in Buffalo was only because. He was good. This is my whole point. Like he was the first down before he got hurt. yeah he's just I mean yeah yeah he got hurt and he's getting older and I just didn't think yeah I guess I I thought that it was on the down slope but anyway he was awesome in this in this whole run and it also like the funny thing to be to be reminded of with Stefan Diggs is that I think we have like this this Hollywood idea of what a team leader is supposed to be like and Stefan Dix is someone that commands a certain amount of respect in the locker room that everywhere that he's been, he like does the Michael Irvin super hard work example and motivational positive thing that doesn't always, isn't always consistent with all of this stuff, you know?

49:05I will say, I haven't talked about this at all, but like, you know, he's being accused of, I'm not saying you're, you know, you're talking about football, but like you know he has the he's like a female personal chef he's accused him of assault and i'll be curious to see if that comes up at the super bowl um because it hasn't really been like a much of a news story right now and he is going to be a big figure at this game so oh no you didn't bring it up i did like i was i was tiptoed around it but i mean i brought it up it's part of it to me um yeah barmore also had some accusations um the thing I do want to make my bad I don't know it's like I'm so like with these things that you get to the point where it's like there's no one said to say anything about it on it's horrible so then I just like for I used to be um but I yeah it's worth mentioning uh I do want to hit on the thing about Drake made his legs I know we were joking about like that was the only offensive takeaway, but it was a big deal in this game.

50:12He had 10 rushing attempts for 65 yards, six first downs, including, you know, of course he scored a touchdown on the draw and then called a shot on the naked to ice the game. But while that the naked, obviously he was not running through the teeth of defense for the most part. That's what struck me. Dominique is like his ability to recognize run lanes. This is very similar to Josh Allen. Yeah. And. Yeah. If you have a quarterback who can do that, who also has size and physicality, it is a cheat code because against many coverages and against many defensive looks, there is an opportunity there for a quarterback who can run that way and scramble.

50:56And it's been the case with him his entire career. That's when he's his best running that style. But it was kind of the difference in this game. He had a couple of huge scrambles through the middle. So obviously we're at a point in NFL history where we all understand and accept that an athletic quarterback with the ability to run is much more valuable. Now, I think we're getting into parsing the way that they do it and how and how it threatens the defense. And I think your point that you're making just to add to it, to make it a little bit more clear for people who is not obvious for it's like, all right, if you flush out of the pocket.

51:34Yeah, that's nice. You're buying time. You're creating angles. Yeah, but you're not threatening anybody. When you step up, you're threatening the underneath coverage. So, like, if you have someone running deep, the safeties are being taken there. If you have someone in the intermediate area that maybe the linebackers are sinking onto, if you show the propensity to step up in the pocket, they will come up closer. And that creates, or they don't. And then you got a full head of steam, yeah, to run at him. So like, that's just, yeah, he does it in a way that I think that middle, it's just the quickest way between two points, obviously.

52:13It's that straight line attack. And it's like, it threatens the shit out of a defense and it's hard as hell to defend. And he's good at it. To put it in like super layman's terms, it's hypothetically a lot easier to gain seven yards by going straight than it is by running around a defense. The problem with going straight, though, is you can take a lot of contact. Yeah. but May has proven that he is good at doing that. He's, he's big, really big dude and has the athleticism to, it's an RPO in a way, you know, like it's like a, it's a late down RPO. And as you said, it influences the defense for the entire game because if it's linebacker, either cheats up or, you know, somebody's right.

52:54And that's what I'm saying. That's the option part is like you, he's creating this run pass option where he steps up and is looking to see what you do. And if you don't come up immediately, he's going to get 10 quick yeah I mean the the Broncos played his ton of zone for this reason I would argue in this game right because they wanted somebody to have eyes on him but in a lot of big moments it didn't matter and it was a good execution like the draw was really executed at the goal line um yeah look uh I think kind of spinning it forward a lot of times talking about the Patriots and what they've had because they're going to be obviously they're underdogs and well I think a lot of people will be approaching this game like what do they got to do what can they be better um i also think like you know let's not overreact to like a bad game in horrific conditions personally uh but i think for um denver like i said it's hard to come away with this from this with massive takes if i had to have one dominique it would be that they're in their lack of a deficient running game kind of bit them here because i think if they had one they would have been able to lean on it a lot more instead of asking Stidham to drop back and it you know they've invested a lot in it it's just not gotten well not they haven't invested a lot maybe the line but just feels like it hasn't gotten to where Sean Payne would like it to be.

54:19Yeah I mean I think that that certainly jumped off the screen I think this team has issues that it has to address on the defense in the offseason also and I like looking at the two teams that lost, like I came away a little more concerned about the Broncos roster and, and less concerned about the Rams roster. To me, I was, I was surprised. The Rams is so like dependent on the Stafford question, right? So as soon as you're playing and they pay him, I think they'll be fine. Yeah. You need a corner. You got two first round draft picks. See what happens with Adams. If he doesn't, that's where things get, you know, interesting.

54:58I mean, they need to, they need a corner i think they probably need another receiver like um that but like their defensive line is in such good shape they're so talented and so young um like i assume i assume yeah often the line is good i'm assuming they'll resign curl but like the corners is a hard it's a hard thing to to fix so but it's only it's clear it's one thing that they really got to address they've not addressed it in the draft i was looking back at all the draft they've really just taken a lot of late round shots and this feels like all right let's this year let's get a guy yeah but the broncos you were saying yeah yeah i mean i guess i um like they it doesn't seem like and maybe he'll be better next year i guess it depends on what they want to do defensively so like they are very dependent on their cornerbacks being really good in man coverage it seems that Jaday Barron is not playing as well as they maybe he'll get better but he didn't get much time and that was like the plan to have I assume when they drafted him that was like the succession plan for Riley Moss right and so like that seems like still an open question there even though McMillan played well I was going to say I think they wanted him to start Nickel but McMillan just kept him off the field yeah there's there's work to be done um

56:22the linebackers like that was who funga who they signed it was was i mean his limitations he was good for what he did i mean i think he's yeah i guess maybe that's just a difference in opinion like he's obviously a stylistic thing too yeah that's what i mean it's a stylist yeah yeah i yeah it's a really good i yeah i kind of feel the way about both teams i'm like yeah they'll be fine like i i don't think there's teams in the who got eliminated from the playoffs where i'm like Woof, woof. A reckoning is coming. Not these teams. These teams are going to be good next year, assuming Stafford comes back.

56:55Yeah. I mean, I think the Broncos, there's a few holes on the roster that they can address, but you just feel for them. I mean, the other thing we could talk about, I guess, is the Sean Payton fourth down decision, which Seth Wickersham had a great story, which people should check out because he spent a lot of time with Payton where Payton talked about their process and how fourth and shore in that situation. And he regretted the play he called, which was having Stidham keep as opposed to just running duo. I think if he, and this addresses this as well, like if he knew how the conditions were going to turn, I suspect.

57:35But I mean, you know, like the Patriots went for it on fourth and one and nobody's talking about that today because they converted. So I don't have super strong feelings about it personally. Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I tend to lean on the side of encouraging aggressiveness. Like, I'd rather see someone try to convert a fourth down than to kick a field goal in most cases, which may not always line up with. You have to. Yeah. I mean, it may not always line up with what's the optimal decision, but generally as a person who's watching football or who's on a football team, let's go. Let's get it.

58:11That's what I would want to do, and that's what I want to see.

58:16I alluded to this. We didn't talk about it. Sean McVay not going for two. I found that fast. So ultimately, right? Like if he had gone for two, they would have positioned to keep the game going with the field goal. To me, I haven't talked to him about it, but I suspect it was just the time of the game. It was the third quarter and they were like too early to be chasing points.

58:39I think that's early enough to start, frankly, thinking about the point differential, especially because there's nothing to be gained by scoring the touchdown there. Again, it's not a brutal, it's third quarter. I get that. I saw some people criticizing him for going for it later, which I think is ridiculous. The Seahawks were scoring, moving the ball on them. They had to score touchdowns. I assume that someone proposed it. He probably got asked about it, right? I guess my question is, was it even on the table? That would be about game management. I haven't seen him get asked by. Maybe I missed it.

59:18Somebody, if you're listening to this year Rams fan, let me know if he's been asked by it because I, I think it's, that to me is like the more interesting, um, but like, when do you, the time in the game when you start thinking about that? Cause I've having talked to folks on teams have heard a lot, gotten a lot of different answers. So it's, it's an interesting question. I was surprised it wasn't brought up on the broadcast or anything. So. I mean, I know everyone has like a game management guy who's supposed to be helping him out but I guess that was my question is like did they even ask his opinion is this even something that came up at that point because I think about this a lot with like us looking for the next offensive mastermind to be a head coach it's like you're juggling a lot of stuff and things can fall through the cracks um well that's it for the championships the Seahawks and the Patriots are in the Super Bowl which means I have to watch the Malcolm Butler interception approximately 400 times between now and next week.

1:00:17So a bit of housekeeping. First of all, later this week, I am having the amazing JB Long on to talk about MVP and all the other NFL awards, which I could not have chosen a worse time to make my Drake May versus Matthew Stafford. It's a regular season award, people. We will get into that. No, he's JB's awesome. And he's super, super thoughtful about all this. So I wanted like someone who really knew Stafford's body of work to have that discussion with me. And I think it's going to be great. But we're going to talk about the other awards, too. And I'll let people know what I chose for all of them because I am a voter.

1:00:54We didn't talk about it. There was a few that really were difficult to pick. So this is the coach of the year bowl, isn't it? How cool is it being a voter? Did they like call you or send you a letter or an email or something? How did this come to be? reached out to me three years ago, I think. Cool, but I didn't realize last year, and I think the votes are going to be public, which became a whole thing because I was like Lamar over Josh, which is very funny because this year people were like, you were Josh Allen, an apologist. I'm like, you literally this last year, I was getting the exact opposite.

1:01:29Like, it's just ridiculous. Okay, so that'll come later in the week, and then next week, just doing one podcast with Ben, big Super Bowl preview, but But I will be in San Francisco. And if you are in San Francisco next Thursday, I will be joining Dominique for his live show, as well as Marcus, Kevin Clark. Who else is going to be in there? That's it. Just us. Okay, us three. So if you're in San Francisco, it's Thursday night. It's for a great cause. Proceeds going to help the Special Olympics, which I love. FoxworthPodLive.com. FoxworthPodLive.com. I figured there's cool merch. I don't have any Foxworth Pod merch, so I'm looking.

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