Walker This Way: Recapping the Chiefs Win and Week 1 Winners and Losers

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0:33Ben Solak:welcome back to the media time show featuring lenny monday night football recap edition new face ben solek as i mentioned last week uh dominique and ben basically switched places so you'll see dominique uh every other thursday you will see ben on tuesdays joining me to recap monday night football and also to pick our winners and losers from the weekend so you could give it as a broader recap. Ben, how you doing, bud? Week one, and there's football, there were points, and everybody's very excited. Oh, one of the highest scoring week ones ever. A lot of the points didn't feel very good. It felt like disastrous slot ball, but we have real football to ingest, to consume, and to build longstanding beliefs off of despite the fact there's only one game.

1:17I'm thrilled to be back.

1:18Ben Solak:Yeah, week one's always tough because there's a little bit of, are these offenses incredible or are these defenses that bad? Some of them, I think we can kind of get out a little bit ahead of, and I think maybe in our winner section, we're going to highlight a couple of those offenses. One of them I think we could talk about today because the Chiefs offense put up a 30-burger, 31 points on the Denver Broncos. I think this is a really fascinating game, and I'm so glad you're here to discuss it because all offseason, we spend this time, we do all these podcasts trying to predict what offenses will look like what their goals are what scheme changes mean and then week one comes and a lot of those conversations are just immediately rendered moot like we were just talking about the commander's offense before we started and it's very funny that like after all the offseason talk jane daniels under sender it's like not really what they did she's the opposite the chiefs did exactly what they told everyone they're going to do with their actions.

2:23Ben Solak:They leaned into the under center run game. Ben, I would say maybe though to an even greater degree and with greater success than anyone anticipated. But that is the story of this game. The chiefs being so dominant running the football, Kenneth Walker. I mean, 191 total yards on the ground, averaging over seven yards, a carry Broncos missed tackles everywhere. We can talk about that side of it, but what did you make of this chiefs run rushing performance? What stood out to you? Because that was the story of the game. Yeah. 177 rushing yards for Kenneth Walker on this game is the most by a chief running back since Jamal Charles in 2012 by, uh, his big run there.

3:07The start of the third quarter, the six yard touchdown run. Kenneth Walker had more rushing yards from under center than any chiefs running back. I'd had an over a decade. There was still half of the game left. This was, this was, it's important to like a little bit calibrate expectations before we go hog wild about the chiefs have finally made the changes we've been asking for this was like the perfect aligning of stars for how well the chiefs are going to run the football they got the drop on the broncos they're coming out with a lot more under center a lot more condensed sets they've got these like super duper jumbo kayaris tonga and hunter norzad and uh you know uh josh's edu sets like so they've got you know weird formations that are unscouted that nobody's really ready for yet you have all the broken tackles like kenneth walker is amazing he's unbelievable at breaking tackles don't get me wrong he's probably not going to do that at a historic rate every single night so like in general this was probably a peak chiefs running game and they're not going to set you know new season highs every single week with that said that was sick it was so sick i think i think my number one biggest takeaway is like less of the kenneth walker and more of the other guys that are already on the chiefs where yeah creed humphrey and trey smith have been the highest paid center one of the highest paid guards for years and the chiefs have never gotten juice for that squeeze because they've never been able to be a downhill you know behind the guards running game they've never been a vertical running game and by finally getting under center and there's there's a rep of duo in the second quarter where creed and trey smith take a broncos defense tackle just nine yards down the field like this is what you've been paying these guys to do you you could have been this for so long so those players and then the skill position guys my big concern with the chiefs under center rushing attack was do you have the tight ends the wide receivers to pull this off right the other Rice.

4:42Oh, boy.

4:43Ben Solak:I mean, you talked about the duo runs. There was the one in the beginning of the fourth quarter. I have a few marked down. Yeah, the fourth quarter where it's duos. Backed up near their own goal line. Yeah, right. And he runs to the Rice. By the way, Kelsey actually got pretty good. Those are the exact two names I was going to bring up. Rice and Kelsey. Rasheed Rice. It was Kelsey on Benito who came inside. And then Rice, Black, Tufanga on that one. And again, when you're doing these condensed formations, And you mentioned this. This is the most, I think I posted this during the game. I didn't check after, but near the end of the game, the Chiefs had a 21-yard average width of their formation, which is very tight.

5:21Ben Solak:That's the tightest, according to NextGen stats that they have had in a decade. This is the Chiefs offense that, you know, in the Andy Reid-Patrick Mahomes era has been very spread out, right? And there's reasons why you get in those condensed formations with this type of back. I think versus this type of opponent, they wanted to make the corners tackle. And Riley Moss, in particular, you know, had some pretty bad missed tackles in this one. He wasn't the only one, though. We'll get to that. But to do that, this cuts to your point, it has to be a team-wide commitment to run the football, right?

5:51Ben Solak:If you're going to get in those conness, you need your skill players to get in there and block so that Kenneth Walker gets that space when he gets to the edge, and he was extraordinary. I really like your point, though, at the beginning about the interior of the offensive line because I think when they signed Walker, it was kind of viewed and maybe this maybe was a little bit of slept on piece like we thought a lot about how okay this cheese game run game has been so not explosive let's go out and get the most explosive back cool but i think the chiefs also felt the strength of our team like yes we don't have like superstar wide receivers kelsey's in the twilight of his career whatnot the interior of our offensive line we will put up with anyone what if you dropped in a back into that particular infrastructure it's kind of like saquon's for i don't want to overstate it because again this is week one but like the thought is like the same as like saquon joined the eagles offensive line like but i think we talked about this too when you talk about like should you spend money in a back yes if you have pieces in place to get the most out of that back and i think kansas city thought we already have these pieces.

7:00Ben Solak:We haven't been using them to like the interior of our offensive line is so strong and we haven't been able to capitalize that on the, on the run game. Let's go get the back. And this is what it looks like. And do you pay the back when it fundamentally changes how your offense will operate? Yeah. When it fundamentally changes how opposing defenses will have to defend your offense. Yeah. When you have Patrick Mahomes who like in a previous life, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Terry kill, they were geometry breaking world ending field shifting players. and you had lost that. So you need to reintroduce some sort of stress or some sort of, if you do X, we will always be able to get to Y.

7:34And just like after this week one performance, there's not going to be a team in the league that wants to sit there and play too high in light boxes against the Chiefs because Walker, for all how explosive he was in the big six yard touchdown run, he was so patient and he was so good between the tackles, right? They're constantly running like power and short yards. They're trying to get them behind pullers and the Broncos are killing the pullers, right? They are beating them in the line of scrimmage and they're gumming it all up and Walker just pitter-patters behind guard center guard and just waits for creator trade to just get him, you know, a little bit daylight, two yards.

8:02Then he ekes through like the, there are things like Walker's right now at the peak of his value. The playoff run with Seattle into this game, like this is the best Walker's ever been. And so there is like some, like you said, you don't want to be hyperbolic and compliment to say, there is some like hyperbole around him as a player right now. But the one thing that he has dramatically improved over his time in Seattle, you've seen it for years is he went from being like home runs and strikeouts in year one, year two, to being a lot more home runs and double singles. He gets on base a lot more than his reputation implies.

8:32Ben Solak:Yeah, I think a 44 % success rate in this game, and that's kind of your sweet spot for Kenneth Walker. If you're there, you're golden because of his explosivity. He's never going to be the most efficient back in football. Maybe famous last words, we'll see. But as long as he reaches kind of like a threshold, like that 40 % mark is what you're looking at in success rate of efficiency, see the explosiveness makes the juice worth the squeeze um it's very funny that the chiefs put up 31 points and obviously some of that turnovers too but on a night when patrick homes didn't complete a single pass over 10 yards uh and that's kind of the the not to pour cold water in this but i want to ask like so okay we talked about how the the broncos it's it's it's hard it's it's weird because like you said like they had drop on them there's a few things but like they knew what everyone knew what Kansas City was going to do it just seemed like they really from an execution standpoint were awful tackling and we can get to whether that I think that will be better than what we saw but the pass game was very bad for Kansas City now some of that had to do with the fact that like because they were so afraid of Nick Bonito against the rookie left tackle Patrick Holmes threw the ball in let's see 2.27 seconds fastest time to throw ever recording extra stats but um you know it looked like last year no real separation worthy making mistakes the interception um you had one nice split speeder to kelsey who got matched up on baron that's that's a tough beat um but for the most part you know like they didn't hit on any of the under center play action the hope is like we've got this like dominant under center run game hopefully the play action game flows off of that but it didn't ben now it didn't have to so i guess my question for you is how much do my homes under center in this game it's funny kenneth walker under center uh 9.9 yards per carry 15 success rate my homes under center 0 for 4 for 0 yards in the interception okay so like are you worried about the past game does it matters.

10:43Ben Solak:I think it's going to have to be better than this. What are your thoughts generally about the chief passing offense? Yes, absolutely. Worried been worried about the wide receiver talent and the separation ability for a while. And I think that when it's interesting because you, you then say, okay, you know, this is a highly explosive rushing attack and that, okay, it hit the big explosives. They also were nails on third and fourth down, right? There were nine and 17 on third down and converted their two fourth downs. I want to say, because they were so good running the ball in short yardage. If we stripped the chiefs from this and we talked about this sort of an offensive approach where it's like, okay, you had a couple of turnovers on defense.

11:16You scored on some short fields. You had on some big explosive runs, but we don't really trust you to throw the ball. That sounds like, you know, the jets, right? It's like, all right, cool. You hit your peak game. You're not gonna be able to do this kind of week over week. The issue is if I were to describe the defense that would, you know, take the wind out of the sails, I'd be like, all right, like really, you know, violent front that can penetrate and that can create negatives in the running game. And then corners you trust in man coverage, just mug the living daylights out of these receivers.

11:40That's the Broncos. and we just like they didn't put up 31 points on him and that's why I think like right again week one no tendencies yet like I think it's a little bit I get the drop on them sort of a game I expect the drop back passing game to be better when Simmons is in there I expect them to be able to go gun more often and get found out of the concept more often than opposed with Benson but who you want to be getting the football to and what they can create down the field still remains a legitimate question right it's a type one Thornton Xavier worthy Rishi Rice show and that

12:05Ben Solak:sort of show worries me a great deal there was a early on I think that was a play action shot where he just overthrew Thornton. Yep. I don't know. Why can those two not get on it? Thornton gets open, too. Like, much more. He, frankly, has been better than Xavier Worthy. Like, if there's something about, like, Mahomes and Thornton where they're just never quite on the same page on those deep shots. I just, I just, I, I'm going to, you know, this is like a half-baked thought, and so you probably shouldn't say it on a podcast and have it live on the internet for forever. But I do, I do, I am starting to buy the theory that, like, Tyreek Hill ruined Mahomes' ability to throw pure vertical balls because he just constantly hangs these things out two or three yards further.

12:46Yeah, I'm watching the Thornton one.

12:48Ben Solak:It's exactly, it's like two yards in front of him. And I think it's half of that. And I think the other half is they've never really gotten him a good contested ball receiver on those vertical routes, right? You remember the DeAndre Hopkins moment, they try to make that happen. Such that Mahomes has never had the experience of like, oh, I can just short this and that receiver down the field is going to be able to turn face the football and win it in the air so it's a little bit tyreek hill ruined me and it's a little bit brett beach is ruining me but he just his he tries to throw all of these vertical ones especially not deep crossers but vertical balls like picture perfect tear drops into the trash can hit him in stride in the basket home run hit your head on the on the goal post and he just consistently misses two yards further than he should yeah it's odd yeah i i still have the Chiefs on trade watch for a receiver.

13:36Ben Solak:Really quick, the Denver defense. So, you know, we alluded to, you know, I mean, the missed tackle numbers are like kind of shocking. NGS has them as 28 missed tackles, allowing 247 yards, the highest yardage total allowed by defense since at least 2018. Is that bad? So I think what needs to be noted here is, you know, this Denver defense was very good against the run. And there was a point where during the game to Laura mentioned the Jonathan Cooper not being in the game because the domestic violence charges, which, of course, the mere mention of riled up a certain idiotic corner of the Internet.

14:14Ben Solak:But Aikman, and I don't think it's wrong to say this, was like, I don't know if John the Goober would have mattered in this game. Classic Aikman just like, yeah, I mean, sure. But no, like they're losing. They're getting their butt kicked. Yeah. Pretty shocking. display of because it was riley moss you know got called out on a couple of the explosives but it wasn't just him i'm looking at some i mean there was also it wasn't just on the ground uh the rashie rice touchdown where he just bounces off of i can't remember i know one of them was jacob mcmillan i'm pretty sure yeah yeah like i guess that's what i want to ask you about are we concerned about this broncos defense against physical downhill run teams it's like like we've gone too early to say just like yeah yeah yeah whatever i thought the john franklin myers absence was more notable than the jonathan cooper right jfm is the one where like again on some of these double teams some of these rotational defensive tackles it was yomo it was a rekay in the early doer when i talked about just getting moved off the ball there is also the broncos try to become very like slant and penetration heavy as a response to all of these four-man surfaces these these condensed sets that they were getting from the chiefs and the thing that franklin myers does best like that his best trait is how good he is as a penetrator where he can slant and he can stunt.

15:29And then he keeps his balance and actually makes tackles and makes plays behind the line of scrimmage. There's like a great DJ Jones slant where he gets back there and Kenneth Walker just, and he's out of there. Right. And then I don't know if Franco Myers is finishing that play. I don't know if he's helping on a night like this, but that was the absence that I feel like I felt more, more severely in terms of the front. Then you get Kenneth Walker into the second level and he's obviously like absolutely on one. He's going to break some tackles. Alex Singleton and Justin Stranod are the starting linebackers for this team.

15:53And just every time the Broncos have a bad game, just like, you know, they bills in the regular season a couple of years ago, even bills in the post season last year, which obviously the game, they still won this game. It's always because teams do a really nice job getting for an ad and, and, and Singleton to have to make tackles in space, right? The Kenneth Walker, 28 yard run Singleton beats the blocks of the spot. He has Kenneth Walker and he hits him with contact, just melt right off of them. And so to me, it's always those linebackers. I circle with the, the, this is still a very good secondary, still a deep defensive line.

16:22So it's two starting linebackers. circle which is when you can isolate those players against the broncos and make them consistently

16:26Ben Solak:make plays you find explosives um the broncos i think have the jags next week so that'll be an interesting really cool rematch from last year because you remember like the broncos defense was giving up like nine points per game that was jacksonville walked in came in and lit them that was kind of the old wait is jacksonville actually like yeah big deal game um okay other side of the ball real struggle bus for Bo Nix um probably the you know just very like I incredible through line by their plot line of Davis Webb the camera cut to him so many times in this game yeah if you didn't know what Davis Webb looked like before this game which I imagine a lot of people didn't you know you can pull him out of a lineup now uh okay I guess just to remind people uh sean payton sort of confusingly handed over a play calling to davis webb and everybody joked all offseason that he would rip it back as soon as davis webb had a bad game and of course that was something that was uh laura again to refer to my nfl live teammate asked payton about it for incredible television moment first of all shout out to laura uh about play calling if he's going to take it back and he said something like we'll see i forgot but it was a very like telling answer or non-answer um he did not in this game but the clock is ticking what's that like a that meme of the bunny with the clock yeah you know with the like that i feel like davis webb you are on watch um okay a lot to unpack here so i think probably the most notable thing there's so much in this one.

18:04Ben Solak:The fact that the Broncos still couldn't run the ball. Jalen Waldo was a complete non-factor things I want to get to. But the thing I think that was kind of the most shocking was um Bo Nix taking so many sacks because top of my list. Yeah. Like the Bo Nix is the his most positive attribute as a quarterback is he doesn't take sacks. And some of that has to do with the Broncos offensive line, which we can talk about. But he also has been very good at avoiding negative plays getting the ball out quickly we have criticized him maybe for the lack of um consistency throwing the ball downfield between the numbers whatever but some of that comes with the fact that he doesn't take negative plays in this one he was a negative there was so many negative plays including ones that didn't end up mat like there was a fumble that wasn't a fumble right but he was um it sacked four times pressured on over 45 percent of his drop backs which is within you know just very unusually high for bo nicks under pressure his numbers were awful so i guess my question for you is how much of this are we putting on the offense and the line and bo nicks versus how much are we putting this on the chief's defense uh which is last week with or yeah it was last week this time last week with nate i was talking about how i was kind of like sneaky optimistic about.

19:23Ben Solak:So, so dispersion or how are we assigning credit here? Yeah, no cheese defense. Like after I saw the man sort of lane pick to start the game, I was like, man, if Nolan Mansour could be what they think it's going to be like, they're going to be able to play by the way. It wasn't, that was not a bad, that was just, he was in Sutton's hip pocket. And then Delane gets hurt on that play. And it's like, Oh my gosh, well now like, what are they going to be able to do? and man let me like legeria sneed looks like he just never left dude i i i left last night impressed by sneed and i watched the film this morning i just could not pick my job off the floor he's so physical and i forgot what the chiefs defense looks like with a physical corner they've been struggling our physical slot excuse me they've been struggling for that over the last couple of years just their ability to stretch out runs and stretch out the screens everything the broncos want to do behind the line of scrimmage none of it was as effective steve's drawing holding penalties he's blowing up blocks he's creating tackle for loss or tackle line scrimge opportunities for other players the physicality of sneet i thought was a big big big difference they were very well prepared for the broncos base stuff right the opening script the boot right away when no williams blows up the boot in the first play i was like oh davis you gotta have a change up because now right on the first drive which actually means the second drive so we're still on the script this is when the broncos score their touchdown webb walks out with some wonky nonsense right they were knocking on the door of the red zone he went formation to the boundary he jet motioned a fourth player into the boundary which is insane and then ran a bubble screen, picked up 13 yards.

20:49The Evan Ingram touchdown, they start with two players in the backfield, both to Bo Nix's left. One of them is Jalen Waddle, and then they motion the back out. So now you have Waddle in the backfield. This is the big thing in week one is wide receivers in the backfield. And Waddle goes out, runs a little route, and Evan Ingram opens up behind him. So Webb empties the clip on the script. They come up with the cool stuff. They catch the Chiefs in weird spots. And then the rest of the game, the Chiefs are just on every base concept, all the easy stuff, right? They're able to generate a lot of second-along, third-alongs.

21:14and then oh our Mason Thomas rookie second round edge rusher a couple wins on Mike McGlinchey Nick Bolton was used as a blitzer a lot more effectively in this game like I felt like personnel wise yes he's had dudes to send that they haven't had previously the talent on the Chiefs defense is

21:31Ben Solak:really what jumped out to me I agree with you like about them being all over the court concepts also the Broncos inability slash reluctance to run the football is continues to be a issue with this team um but as far as the chiefs defenders go yeah i mean delane comes out pick incredible play he's out of the game uh noel williams talked about last week who i you know really have begun to like uh as a chiefs corner uh i was i thought excellent in this game as well but that pass rush too is just very intriguing um it was interesting so there's two things one the blitzes started actually getting home and working which is it was an issue last season we talked about this a lot how spags blitzes weren't hitting at the same rate in this game uh 10 blitzes six of them resulted in pressures bo nicks against the blitz also notably behind the blitzes he really struggled with some of their fire zones he went two for nine for 13 yards in a 39.6 passer rating uh but then also again talent are you mentioned our mason thomas who had a 0.79 second get off something we haven't seen in kansas city in a minute uh i thought miles gare last year was like 0.71 or something that's insanely fast that's very fast anything under 0.8 means you're like that's bonito territory yeah um I thought Karloftis was looked healthy and then uh again I kind of mentioned him a couple times during the preseason but Felix Sanadike is oh my man first round draft pick didn't haven't done anything for them for you know and he really came on in this one so it kind of feels like it was cool to watch the Chiefs defense and particularly that front and the pressure package, just pressure in general, have a good game where Chris Jones didn't have to do much.

23:17Ben Solak:Because that's the whole goal of this offseason is like, okay, we have literally been Chris Jones in nothing. You know, like we've leaned so heavily on him. Wouldn't it be nice if we had some defense, some pass rush steps? And it really looked like they did in this game. Yeah, and Chris Jones plays 51 % of the snaps in this game, which I forgot to check beforehand, but it felt like he was right. Yeah, I mean, like last year, who was consistently averaging 70, 80, 70, 80, 90 % of the snaps, they were able to rotate him more, which the Chris Jones complaint in this later stage of his career is some effort and intensity complaints, right?

23:48Late in the fourth quarters. So if you can consistently kind of keep him more in the 50, 60 range, you're going to get better Chris Jones impact over the course of the season. Now, like, so flowers to the Chiefs defense, I think largely over the Broncos offense. I'm not ringing major alarm bells with the Broncos offense. The fact that Knicks, the way Knicks was bad in this game was quite uncharacteristic, and they took the four sacks when he's had the league lowest sacker over the last two years to me is like all right i just don't i think that nicks is going to avoid more sacks be able to scramble out of more problems moving forward with that said i mean he just doesn't rip throws he does not rip throws against zone into the intermediate areas they're open there's deep stop routes to court inside and there's slant you got to be able to stand in there take a hit and throw a slant to jaylen waddle on 37 when you have man-to-man coverage gets an off-cover corner like you got it the the the this nicks game was bad in a way that he's uncharacteristically bad but the stuff about nicks that is frustrating to me still remains a through line in his bad games and his good games and it's when the running game isn't as effective and they're not as good on the screens and on the swings and everything they try to throw so many screens in the game every single one that nix's reluctance to just trigger on a tight window and yam that sucker in there right is is so

24:56Ben Solak:deteriorating for the offense it limits it and that's something just moving forward like there We're praising the Chiefs defense, but this is something you did see at times last year against Denver, which is defenses having a beat on Denver's offense, this passing game, the boots, the screens, because it was limited. And they're never going to beat that. It's not a scheme thing until Nix is more willing to throw over the middle of the field, the intermediate, as you said. All of that said, I really think Davis Webb could have found more ways to try to get Jalen Waddle involved in this game. And again, to go back to the run game, it's funny, this team talks so much about how they want to run the football, and then they just don't.

25:41Ben Solak:I mean, I understand game script, all that, but Dobbins had eight carries, one was successful. So they're bad at it, and it's very odd. The offensive line will be better. and I do think they'll be better against like I just think this Chiefs defense might be a little bit like a lot like has top 10 potential and I think that probably was you know like again when we do week one and we're trying to like kind of gauge proper comps part of the reason this Broncos loss felt bad is because of all the uncertainty questions around the Chiefs and I think the outcome actually might be less about yeah like the Broncos disappointing and more that the Chiefs defense in particular is better than people thought so I agree with you on that yeah Yeah, it's hard to come out of the gate with that stumble when you have a Sean Payton lurking over your shoulder for Davis Webb, right?

26:30For the other first-time OCs who have a shaky week one, we're not there being like, all right, when's daddy going to come and take the playbook away? So it's unfortunate for that reason. I'm not too close to the alarm bells. I think the offensive line point is a great one where the Chiefs are such a good blitzing team, and that in particular causes Bo problems, caused R.J. Harvey a lot of problems. Anytime they saw R.J. Harvey on the field, food. They were calling blitzes intentionally when 12 was in the backfield. So you're going to run into other good defenses that don't blitz nearly as successfully, and that line's going to show up more and get more time and everything.

27:01So I believe more strongly in Chiefs defense better than expected than Broncos offense is going to be way worse. But you have a shorter leash if you're Webb versus these other OCs because Sean Payton's there.

27:13Ben Solak:Jack's defense is challenging, and they'll blitz too. They'll bring pressures. Actually, after they see this film, Jonah Coleman, free my guy, by the way. Speaking of those RJ Harvey. Jonah Coleman returning kicks because Marvin Mims is her. But yeah, okay, sure. Okay. Let's take a quick break. Come back and do winners and losers from the weekend. All right, we're back. Winners and wuss. Thank you. Let's go first with your winner. One of the more interesting and exciting games of the weekend. Yeah, how about the Bills offense? The 36 points against the Houston Texans defense. and and they even could have won this game like 24 to 18 and i still would have want to put them there because last year's loss to the texans was so humiliating it's a prime time game the texans have davis mills back there cj's hurt spencer brown and deon dawkins remember we're coming into that game we were like elite bills tackle duo elite houston pass rush duo what's gonna happen eight sacks for josh allen two picks spencer brown was hurt in that game very clearly and they couldn't get him a lot of help and there's a lot going on but it was a humiliating game and for for for diandakis for spencer brown for that bill's offensive line it's a terrible game for josh this was the game where everybody was like the bills are gonna run mesh for the 40th time and then they did and like you know this is this kind of was like the unspooling game for buffalo it mattered a lot to them to come out and say we are going to be able to beat defenses like houston and boy howdy did they josh allen over 11 air yards per attempt in this game one of the highest air yards per attempt the last five seasons for him in a single game they walked out with dalton Kinkade I thought he played 72 % of the snaps is the most he's played since before his PCL injury I thought Dalton Kinkade looked exactly like the Bills promised us he would look like this will be the theory when we go and we draft this guy he's skying over Derek Stingley 30 yards down the field to take a ball off the top shelf he's running away from Kamari Lassiter a corner that's so important because I think like okay yeah Kinkade was unbelievable in this games he's healthy like Like you said, this is what he hoped he would be as a prospect, which is like a Kelsey-like tight end, quite frankly.

29:24Ben Solak:I mean, a guy who can press the seam, a guy who can get vertical on all manner of DBs, a guy who's unbelievable at tracking the football. I remember that's what I loved about him as a prospect, his ability to track the football. The tracking is the most important word. He's so talented at it. There is no tight end in the league, I don't think. It's maybe Kittle, but there's no tight end in the league who sees the football better in the air than Dalton Kitt. Stingley ball. You just watch his eyes, watch his adjustment as he makes that catch. And again, it cannot be overemphasized enough. Like this is not Dalton Kincaid beating linebackers.