How to Stop Sabotaging Your Progress & The Secret to Lasting Change - With Gabby Bernstein

8 Sep 2025 · 1 h 6 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Self-sabotage as a psychological/spiritual protection system; how to stop repeating inconsistent patterns and create lasting change by working with “protectors” (managers/firefighters) using Internal Family Systems (IFS) and a four-step practice. Also includes a discussion of fear, “trusting your own strength,” spiritual alignment, and reframing perception (“projector screen”/co-creating reality). Notable examples include Gabby’s recovery from addiction, her IVF journey, and a personal story about managing controlling impulses.

Guest backgrounds

Gabby Bernstein is a New York Times bestselling author (11 books, including The Universe Has Your Back, Super Attractor, and Self-Help). She’s been featured on Oprah’s Super Soul Sunday and major outlets (Good Morning America, Today Show). Her work blends spirituality with therapy-informed self-help, specifically IFS.

Key claims

Self-sabotage protects you from “exiled” childhood feelings (inadequacy, unlovability, shame, terror). Fear persists because you’re relying on your own strength rather than aligning with “Self” (calm/connection/clarity). Lasting change comes from building a relationship with protectors, not fighting them.

Notable examples

Using a four-step check-in (“choose to check in, become curious, connect with compassion—ask what it needs, then check for Self”); Gabby’s “controller” part; and her IVF loss and eventual acceptance (“all you need is one”).

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Chapters

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Understanding Self-Sabotage

0:45 to 2:15

Exploring the reasons behind self-sabotage and its prevalence in our culture.

“We have the audacity and the willingness and the desire to change and accomplish our goals.”

Addressing Mental Health Challenges

2:15 to 6:25

Discussing the rise of mental health issues and the importance of tackling root causes.

“And I cannot wait to share this with you today.”

Podcast Review and Community Engagement

6:41 to 7:49

Reading a five-star review of the podcast and encouraging listener feedback.

“forward slash model for 20 % off their happy drops and their other science backed organic blends, like their green juice blend, their red juice blend, and so much more.”

Self-Sabotage and Protection Mechanisms

8:30 to 14:00

Gabby Bernstein discusses self-sabotage as a protection mechanism and its underlying causes.

“bernstein we have a very special guest here at the model hell show studio gabby bernstein so good to see you it's so good to be with you i'm so excited you have no idea i've been reading both of your books.”

Understanding Protection Mechanisms

14:00 to 16:30

Explore how childhood experiences shape our protective behaviors and resistance to happiness.

“Because if I'm in control, I don't have to feel the fear.”

Fear and Spiritual Connection

16:30 to 20:16

Discuss the relationship between fear and our connection to spiritual self and how it impacts our actions.

“are underneath yeah when it comes to us dealing with all this stuff a big part of the struggle is because we feel like it's all on us.”

Four-Step Process to Engage Protectors

20:16 to 26:48

Learn a four-step practice to interact with and understand protective parts of yourself.

“awareness of the stimulus of the need to control, I would separate myself from it.”

Choosing Self-Help Over External Solutions

26:48 to 28:00

The importance of internal work in achieving true happiness as opposed to external validation.

“Like even if you're going for a five minute walk, just start there.”

The Power of Synchronicity and Spiritual Guidance

28:00 to 35:42

Discover how synchronicity and spiritual guidance can enhance your awareness and connection to the universe.

“That first word synchronicity is so powerful.”

Agency in Creating Our Reality

36:01 to 42:01

Explore how we can actively shape our reality through our thoughts, beliefs, and spiritual practices.

“One of the things you keep leaning into is the practice, is the work.”
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Creating Your Daily Reality

42:01 to 45:05

Learn how to intentionally shape your mindset and daily intentions.

“But we have so much agency to be able to see the world that we want to see.”

The Power of Choice in Tough Situations

45:06 to 47:27

Understand the importance of choosing your reactions to life's challenges.

“on the way over here, I want to feel energized.”

Navigating the Journey of Parenthood

47:28 to 51:06

Hear Gabby's personal story of loss and acceptance in her journey to motherhood.

“sometimes that we can't necessarily handle.”

The Importance of Comeback Rate

51:07 to 52:52

Explore how to effectively return to your practices after setbacks.

“And so that faith is what I was training for.”

Curiosity as a Tool for Self-Compassion

52:53 to 56:04

Learn how to treat yourself with kindness through curiosity and self-inquiry.

“We were like right in that in Mexico in the car.”

Emotional Well-Being and Personal Mission

56:04 to 58:01

Discover the importance of checking in with your emotional health and aligning with your personal mission.

The Role of AI and Staying Human

58:02 to 59:31

Understand the balance between embracing AI technology and maintaining human connection.

“We're just seeing the very, very, the preschool of it.”

The Role of AI and Staying Human

59:32 to 1:00:37

Understand the balance between embracing AI technology and maintaining human connection.

“They can talk to me at three o 'clock in the morning.”

The Role of AI and Staying Human

1:00:41 to 1:01:30

Understand the balance between embracing AI technology and maintaining human connection.

“best place to get my, you can get self-help check-ins from the books.”

Living with Intention and Connection

1:01:31 to 1:02:39

Explore how to live intentionally and foster strong connections with oneself and others.

“Gabby Bernstein, what is the model that you're here to create for the world with the way that you live your life personally?”
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Transcript

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0:00Shawn Stevenson:You are now listening to The Model Health Show with Shawn Stevenson. For more, visit themodelhealthshow.com.

0:11Shawn Stevenson:What if you know exactly what to do to transform your body, to create the relationships that you want, to have the success in your life? You had the exact roadmap. You knew exactly what to do, but you still couldn't find a way to do what was necessary. Again, you've got the roadmap. You know all the steps, you know the recipe, but for whatever reason, you're leaving out an ingredient here or there. You're adding stuff that shouldn't be in there. And now your lasagna tastes like peanut butter. All right, how did we even get here? How did all this get mixed up? Now, I know that this is a crazy analogy, but this is what's happening for so many of us.

0:49Shawn Stevenson:We have the audacity and the willingness and the desire to change and accomplish our goals. But we find ways to sabotage ourselves. We find ourselves in patterns of inconsistency when we promised to follow through. And what I want to say today is that you are not alone. This is something that is very common in our culture today. This is something that is very common amongst our community. And so number one, just the fact that you are here and you are wanting to get better and to accomplish your goals, that in and of itself is so much more powerful than you can imagine. But there's something going on beneath the surface, deep within our psychology, that is causing this self-sabotaging behavior.

1:37Shawn Stevenson:And today we're going to take a look inside. We're going to use some powerful insights and strategies to start to deconstruct why I'm not following through and creating the change that I want to create. Because you absolutely can, And whatever your goals, whatever your desires are, you absolutely have everything you need within you to achieve those things. But sometimes we've got to be able to get out of our own way and to find out what's going on beneath the surface that's blocking me from my blessings. And so this episode is so powerful, so filled with insights from somebody who's helped millions of people to make breakthroughs.

2:18Shawn Stevenson:And I cannot wait to share this with you today. Now, before we get to our special guest, while I was leaving the gym the other day, somebody that works at the gym stopped me and he said, yo, I had no idea who you were. You know, I see you in the gym, but you just popped up in my feed. And man, you have so many incredible insights with nutrition. Can I ask you a question? I was like, absolutely, bro. What's going on? And he was asking me about supplements to support mental health. And he found some things over the years that really supported him, but he wanted to know if there was any science behind them and what I thought about them in particular when it comes to depression.

2:54Shawn Stevenson:Now, as you know, mental health challenges have skyrocketed in recent decades and without addressing the root cause that's shown in mountains of studies, including social isolation, sleep abnormalities, nutrient deficiencies, sedentary behavior, and many other factors, we're going to continue to see rising rates of these issues and lack of solutions. And so it's important to understand that we don't want to just treat symptoms. We want to address the root causes here. And it's important for us to understand that no two cases of depression or anxiety or ADHD or schizophrenia, the list goes on and on, no two cases are the same.

3:33Shawn Stevenson:And there are unique lifestyle and mental health work that each of us need in different situations. First and foremost, and of course, medications can be helpful in some context. but most people are not educated about the science-backed natural supplements that are shown to be just as effective as many medications. And one of them that I talked about with this amazing individual at the gym might just be the most science-backed supplement when it comes to supporting mental health, in particular with addressing depression. I'm going to say this again, caveat, lifestyle factors first, but you need to know this.

4:15Shawn Stevenson:An analysis published in the Journal of Effective Disorders found that the renowned spice, saffron, was just as effective as conventional antidepressant drugs like Prozac, Tofrenil, and Celexa. These are all conventional treatments for depression. Additionally, fewer people utilizing saffron experienced side effects than from those other treatments. So again, it's safer and just as effective as the premier antidepressant medications that are out there on the market. And so these are things just to have in our utility belt when it comes to mental health, when it comes to depression and treatments.

4:59Shawn Stevenson:We don't wanna get it twisted though. Lifestyle, we've gotta address that. What is the cause? What's going on beneath the surface? And what are those things that are backed by science that are safe that we can utilize to help to support our mental health. And this is for all of us. Saffron is remarkable in just supporting a healthier disposition and overall healthier mood. And according to one of my dear friends and one of my greatest mentors, who's a neuroscientist, double board certified psychiatrist with the greatest database of brain scans of any person in the world, in history, hundreds of thousands of brain scans.

5:39Shawn Stevenson:He's a big part of the NFL study. He scanned everybody's brain from Muhammad Ali to Justin Bieber, right? And lots of everyday folks that are just seeking solutions for their mental health challenges. And I'm talking about Dr. Daniel Amen. I first really paid attention to the data on saffron because of Dr. Daniel Amen. This is one of his absolute favorite supplements that he utilizes with his patients. And right now, it's easier than ever to take advantage of the benefits of saffron. The incredible team at Organifi has put together this wonderful formula, and you really do notice a difference.

6:17Shawn Stevenson:They're called Happy Drops. They're these delicious gummies that have a therapeutic amount of saffron, and you can check them out right now when you go to Organifi.com forward slash model. And not only that, you're going to get 20 % off. Go to Organifi.com forward slash model. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward slash model for 20 % off their happy drops and their other science backed organic blends, like their green juice blend, their red juice blend, and so much more. Again, head over there, check them out, Organifi.com forward slash model for 20 % off. And now let's get to the Apple Podcast Review of the Week.

7:02Another five-star review titled The Model Health Show is Fire by IHY. Whether it's on my drive to work or while I get ready in the morning, I really enjoy listening to The Model Health Show every week with the information provided from Sean and his guest. I feel like everyone should be listening to this podcast. Thank you for all the work you're doing, Sean.

7:22Shawn Stevenson:Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing that powerful message over on Apple Podcasts. Thank you for taking with me in the mornings on your drives as well. And it really does mean a lot. I truly do appreciate that. And if you've yet to do so, please take a moment and leave a review over on Apple Podcasts. It really does mean so much. And without further ado, let's get to our special guest and topic of the day. For nearly two decades, Gabby Bernstein has been transforming lives, including her own. She's a number one New York Times bestselling author and has penned 11 books, including Self-Help, The Universe Has Your Back, and Super Attractor.

8:01Shawn Stevenson:Gabby has been featured on Oprah's Super Soul Sunday as a new thought leader, and the New York Times has identified Gabby as a role model for a new generation of spiritual seekers. Gabby has been featured everywhere on major media from Good Morning America to the Today Show, and in her weekly podcast dear gabby she offers up real-time coaching straight talk and conversations about personal growth and spirituality let's dive in this conversation with the one and only gabby bernstein we have a very special guest here at the model hell show studio gabby bernstein so good to see you it's so good to be with you i'm so excited you have no idea i've been reading both of your books.

8:42I love you.

8:42Shawn Stevenson:All right. It's like going back and forth. And I've got to ask you because for so many of us, we have aspirations of change and to accomplish certain things in our lives. But many of us experience self-sabotage. All right. We have goals and things that we want to achieve and we know how to get there practically, the things we're quote supposed to do, but we find a way to sabotage our progress why do we do that why do we self-sabotage our results self-sabotage Sean is a protection mechanism it's a protector part of us we have inner desires we all have big desires to create to achieve to manifest to attract and we sometimes will take action on those desires, oftentimes take action on those desires, and then very often just cut ourselves off at the knees and completely sabotage.

9:42Why? Because there's deep rooted beliefs inside of all of us. Many people have beliefs, it's too good to be true, or I'm not worthy, or who am I to? And those core beliefs are the deep rooted feelings that are the feelings that we often want to mask and self-sabotage is the way of masking that so we'll self-sabotage to protect

10:04Shawn Stevenson:against those deeper exiled feelings yeah yeah you talk about the protector yeah right and these protective mechanisms we develop and so many of us have this i would imagine pretty much all everyone of us have these and we have a manager yeah within ourselves and we also have the firefighter yeah that you talk about as well can you talk a little bit about those so you're referencing the latest work of my new book, Self-Help, which is based on a therapy called internal family systems therapy, otherwise known as IFS. And what I've done is really demystify and democratize this therapy through a self-help tool.

10:40But to explain these different parts, they're IFS terms. So we have these protection mechanisms that I think everybody listening could imagine, okay, I know I'm a people pleaser at times, or I know I can be really controlling, or I know I can have rage in these certain moments, or when my wife says X, I flip out. We know those reactive trigger points, and we know the behaviors and beliefs that block us, and they're kind of extreme. In IFS, it's about recognizing these behaviors and beliefs as protection mechanisms, not just bad habits or behaviors. So for example, I'm sober now 20 years right now.

11:20So just turning sober 20 years. And in my recovery now, I can look back and say, oh, that cocaine addict part that was 25 years old using drugs, that wasn't a bad part of me. That was a protection mechanism. I was doing drugs to numb out the impermissible trauma feelings from my childhood. So the cocaine addict is what we would call a firefighter. It's the put out the flames, do whatever it takes to put out the flames of those deeper feelings. The managers are also protection mechanisms, protectors, but they're the day-to-day protectors, right? Maybe controlling or people-pleasing or workaholism or numbing out with YouTube or going to the fridge to eat.

12:02Those can be practices or patterns or beliefs that we carry that are typically with us on a day-to-day basis where we're just sort of like, oh, I am A, right? I'm a people-pleaser. I'm a control freak. But the really extreme parts are the firefighters, the addicts, the suicidal ideation. That's the firefighters.

12:23Shawn Stevenson:Yeah. Oh, my goodness. And of course, you walk us through how do we address this. Yes. And we'll get to some of that in a bit. But one of the things that you shared also is that we find it hard to give up the fear we've grown dependent on. So a lot of this is due to fear. That's right. We self-soothe. we find this way to protect ourselves. And a lot of it is based around fear, if not all of it. Yes. And so can you talk a little bit more about that? Why do we find it hard to give up fear that we've grown to depend on? Well, we all had difficult experiences as children, no matter whether it's big T trauma or small T trauma, we all experienced it.

13:00Maybe it was alcoholic parent, and that was a big T trauma. Or maybe it was something that seems less significant, like maybe being bullied on the playground or a teacher telling you you're stupid. All of these moments as little kids are big moments because in those moments we don't have the ability to process those big feelings of being inadequate, being unlovable, in some cases terror or shame. And so we don't have the ability to process that. And so without the ability to process that, what are we going to do? Put it down, push it down, numb it out. So as little, little children we start learning we're really wise.

13:35our brain starts to develop these protection mechanisms to numb out that feeling of being inadequate or unlovable and say no thank you never want to feel that again and so what do we do if we were not loved or not not attached with our parent we're going to do everything we can to get attachment right we're going to people please we're going to override ourselves if our life fell out of control that was my experience things feel out of control we're going to do whatever it takes to control. Why did I need to control? Because if I'm in control, I don't have to feel the fear. If you're that people pleaser because you didn't have that love or that attention, you're doing the people pleasing so you don't have to feel the feelings of being inadequate and unlovable.

14:15So these protection mechanisms are protecting us from very young exiled parts of ourselves that we just don't want to face.

14:24Shawn Stevenson:Yeah. I think we unconsciously give so much purpose to that? We do. We unconsciously are living in a state of protection all the time, braced at all times. And those folks out there that haven't done any personal development work are likely living in this braced state that in any given moment, something could trigger you and boom, you're going to pop off and this is going to happen. And of course, those folks with more more of these big T experiences as children may have more extreme protectors, but we all have protectors. Yeah. One of the things that you said, and again, when I read this, I was like, why?

15:04Shawn Stevenson:Like, whatever. Like, if you were to tell me this, I would be resistant to it. You said that we're resistant to being happy, many of us. Yeah. And it's just like, we consciously like, I want to be happy. What do you mean? I want to be healthy. I want to achieve this weight loss. I want to have this great relationship. But when you broke down why it is, like, it makes complete sense. Yeah. Well, we think that the happy is the relationship or the weight loss or the job or the abundance or the cash in the bank. We think that's the happy. But the resistance to being happy is the resistance to doing the deep inner work that's required for us to allow the presence of joy to be revealed naturally.

15:43We are at our core joyful, healthy, loving, spiritual, just inspired beings. That's who we are. That energy is what in IFS we call self. That's why the book is called Self Help. Self is the presence of calm, connection, compassion, clarity, creativity. It's who you are in this moment with me. You're not worried about tomorrow or later. you're with me that's your self energy but the majority of the time folks who haven't done enough deeper inner work are blocking that self and that's that true joy that true happiness and so we're resisting that happiness because we are protecting and protecting and protecting in this hyper vigilant state of trying to brace ourselves to not have to feel those deeper feelings that

16:35Shawn Stevenson:are underneath yeah when it comes to us dealing with all this stuff a big part of the struggle is because we feel like it's all on us. I have to figure this out. I have to do this work. And one of my favorite quotes from you is, the presence of fear is a sure sign that you're trusting in your own strength. Talk about that. I love that you're bouncing from book to book. This is awesome. This is good. Because you're like, this is from this book. And now I'm pulling from this book. You're reading both the books at the same time. I can tell right now. The presence of fear is a sign that you're relying on your own strength.

17:09So self-help, this book is a detour in a bit for me because it's about a therapeutic process. Most of my books are very spiritual, all spiritual self-help books and rooted in spirituality. And so what I mean when I say that the presence of fear is a sign that we're relying on our own strength, what that means is that when we are in that state of separation, fear, self-attack, judgment, attack of others, any form of resistance, we are out of alignment with our spiritual nature. We're out of alignment with a sense of certainty, connection to the universe, connection to the divine, connection to a higher power of our own understanding.

17:48That presence of that spiritual connection is unique to everybody. Everybody can decide what that is for them. But that is the true source. That connection is the true source of that state of self inside and so when we're in fear it's a sign that we're out of alignment with that source period how do we clear the static on the line yes okay so everything i've done throughout my i've written 11 books every single one of these books are designed to get out of the static that's misaligning us from that that core truth in the case of the universe has your back which you have right here that book has a lot of spiritual practices of spiritual surrender through prayer practices of learning to it's about called transform fear to faith is the subtitle and it's really about strengthening a faith of your own understanding in the case of this book self-help that is about really actually starting to rely on your own inner healer which is also equivalent to the presence of your spiritual truth and that inner healer is the self inside.

18:51And there's a four-step practice in that book, which is designed to really help you be in relationship with these protectors. So the fear is the impetus to make that protector start protecting. And you don't want to go straight to the fear, but you can start to create a relationship with the protector. So you can become curious about it. You can check in with it. You can be compassionate towards it. You can start dialoguing with these protection mechanisms as if they were inner children inside of you. So I'll give you an example. I had the controller. The controller has been with me for many years.

19:33She's doing pretty good though right now. She's actually pretty relaxed. But the controller was really controlling and she was running the show and just kind of creating chaos and making people crazy and not trusting in others really, trusting in God and the universe, but not trusting people. Why? Because I was a child of trauma, because I grew up without the right attachment bonds. Of course, I was going to feel the protection mechanism of I've got to control everything because nothing was in control. So the more that I started to connect to that part of me, the more it became unburdened. And so how did I do it?

20:07I'd notice in those moments when I'd have the need to start controlling, maybe it's a work-related thing or a relationship-related thing. And when I had enough awareness of the stimulus of the need to control, I would separate myself from it. And I would, or even if after the fact, maybe I'd be controlling like crazy and later I'd check in with it. And I would follow these four steps, which is this self-help practice based on IFS and this is what I've designed. The first step is to choose to check in with the control, in this case the control, the protection mechanism or whatever your protector is.

20:40Choose to check in so I focus my attention inward and then the second step was become curious about it so I would start asking questions inside. Where do I feel that in my body and it would always be in my jaw or my chest and I'd start describing it. It feels tight, it feels red, you know just noticing what's happening on the inside. And then I'd ask more questions. What do I know about this? Is there any thoughts or feelings or sensations attached to it? And so as soon as I started to feel a little bit of a connection to the part of me, feeling it inside or hearing its messages towards me, the third step was to compassionately connect to it.

21:18And that's when I would say, what do you need? and those three words what do you need is the greatest gift you could offer these parts of yourself because these parts of us are like little kids inside and they need to be seen they need to be heard they need compassion and so then I'd let that part of me speak up and it usually say I need to rest or I need to speak up for myself or I need boundaries and then the fourth step is to check for self so check and see if you've connected to self do you feel calm do you feel more compassionate do you feel more connected do you have some clarity do you feel a little bit of creative energy do you feel a little bit of compassion towards yourself and if you even feel a molecule of any one of those sea qualities you've done the job you've done the work your your self is showing up my question is how do we know when to check in because i think that that's one of the big

22:14Shawn Stevenson:barriers. It's just we're busy. We got stuff going on. We're just in reaction all the time. Right. We are in reaction all the time. So the way that we know to check in is to begin by recognizing the protectors. So everyone watching or listening can ask themselves, what are the extreme behaviors or beliefs that I'm often mad about? Right. So, oh I did that again or I don't know what just came over me something just came over me that's a big one those beliefs and patterns and behaviors are the protectors and so starting to name them call them by their name do you know of any protectors that you might have that are up for you on a regular basis these patterns really up where'd that come from how'd that happen again maybe you don't want to talk about it here but let me think about it there's a part of me that wants to stand up for what's right to stand up to the bully to protect other people to protect yeah look at the word right how long is that part of you been around ever since i was a kid that's right as long as you can remember right yeah yeah and so i wanted to protect my mom there you go there you go so that's a very big protector that's a big one and i'm sure it shows up less and less now because you're a man that has done a lot of personal development work and you You have a lot of probably coping mechanisms to self-soothe in moments and things, and so you have more self-awareness.

23:44But what if you could protect and care for others and make sure people don't get hurt and stand up, but in a less extreme way? What if you could speak up instead of fist up or whatever? I'm not, you know, whatever that might be, right? Is there, because that's a beautiful quality. These parts of us, these protection mechanisms that we often shame and blame are actually extraordinary parts of us, right? My controller part wrote 11 books in 14 years. She's serving souls. She's done a great job. But now she can do it in a less extreme way. So Sean, you know, you and I have known each other for a long time.

24:20But if you had met me six, seven years ago, you'd be meeting a different version of me. Because the me you would have met then, you might have left the room being like, she's super cool. She's super nice. She's definitely connected to the work. she's doing but she feels a little hyper vigilant or she feels a little bit like wiry or so you know and that's because i've just been healing these parts and healing these parts and it's not like i made those controller parts go away it's not like i'm letting go completely i still run a business i still run a family but it's not in a burdened way i'm not in an extreme way yeah

24:55Shawn Stevenson:so it's beautiful yeah i and i could see that thank you for saying that because these protectors and these parts of us, there's beauty to them. A hundred percent. And I could see where that part of me, I can hurt myself trying to protect others. Absolutely. And then I might not be around to protect them. You could get yourself into a lot of trouble. Exactly. And the thing is, is that that protector part is probably something that is so beautiful to your wife and to the people around you. And they see you as this carer. And I feel that barely knowing you just for a little time in Mexico and here.

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25:30that caring nature and that that nurturing and at the same time it can be extreme right so you have

25:38Shawn Stevenson:to give it both sides yeah oh wow this is so awesome thank you for this so i mean the bottom line is we've got to do our own internal investigation yes sir we really do yes i why are we putting this off again like we're so externally focused all right let me ask you this so let me hold up these two books ready this is the why so you have this book right here and it says the universe has your back and you know transform fear into faith and then this one is self-help in big red letters you're in the bookstore which book are you picking up

26:11in the comments below tell me which book you're picking up yeah do you want me to answer i mean you might be different than the rest of the world and and it's it's not that your your viewers are not the exact typical demographic because they're out there they're doing all this incredible work on themselves they need to step up but it's unlikely that people are going to sit even want to even want to sit at a beach with this book in their hands it's like what the no i don't want to do that so they want the universe to have their back right or my book super attractor you know manifesting that's what they want and so this feels like work but there's a reason i put these big red letters on the page because this is and also the subtitle this is your chance to change your life this is not a small thing it's requirement but it doesn't have to be heavy it can be one minute four steps every day once a day of course if you do more the better the muscles built but you know you want to start working out you want to start hitting the gym you're not going to be completely out of shape and go to the gym tomorrow you're going to start by maybe walking 5 ,000 steps and maybe to 10 ,000 steps and then maybe you're going to be like okay I'm going to start lifting five pounds or I'm just thinking about women more than men but like or men or somebody that's just starting out for the first time my son's nanny she's middle-aged she really wants to start to get into shape and I looked at her and I was like listen here's a weighted vest it's five pounds here's three pound weights I sent her off I was like get out of here I'm like, just start cleaning your house with the five pound weights and lifting the three pounds, wearing the three pounds when you're walking.

27:36Like even if you're going for a five minute walk, just start there. And the same thing goes for self-help. One minute, four steps once a day. That's it. But it's terrifying for people.

27:48Shawn Stevenson:Of course. I don't want to self-help. Maybe this guy, but not everybody else. It's just, it is, I think, again, where you are, what you're going to be drawn to. but the universe having your back feels a lot more a lot easier well it's also because people think like i want to it feels easier but they also think when i get that thing i'll be happy it's the opposite it's when i've done the inner work to feel good inside whatever i desire starts to come into me and forms far greater than i could ever imagine yeah the universe has your back for me that is a call to remember yes right and you give so much and so many insights on helping us to remember yeah and really rekindling that seemingly lost connection that was never lost that's right with that said again you still have to do the work there's still work because it's so easy to forget it might be easier than ever to forget because we're so externally focused that's And so with that being said, one of my favorite parts of that book is when you talk about, and this is a direct quote, synchronicity, guidance, healing, and abundance are available to us all the time.

29:02That's right.

29:03Shawn Stevenson:Let me tell you this. That first word synchronicity is so powerful. It just reminds me that I am in the magic. I am in the flow. when I read this sentence, this was the day after I was speaking on stage and at an event in Atlanta and I quoted St. Francis of Assisi. Yes. And then I opened your book the next day and you have a quote from St. Francis of Assisi and that message right there about synchronicity. That's right. My eyes started watering. Yeah. You know, I started tearing up. Well, I've got so many chills. that's your spirit guides let's go there that's your guides we all have angels and spirit guides working on our behalf your audience now might be like good night okay take it or leave it take it or leave it you can call it energetic presence you can call it the universe I don't care but what I believe in my spiritual faith is that and it's not even a faith it's a knowing it's a knowing it's a connection it's a hearing I have clear essence clear audience I can hear clear sentience and And that knowing is that we have these divine guides, spiritual, whether it's grandma, whether it's an energy that you've been with in past lives.

30:12Again, I believe all and I know all of this. These energies are always working on our behalf to guide us in the right direction. When we pray or when we set intentions, we're sending out a message to the universe, but also to these guides saying, I need help. Even just saying things like, it has to be a better way. Or is this it? I want to change. those are invisible doors that we open and when we open those doors that's when the presence of this guidance starts to come into our life and for for those moments when you have that you're speaking on behalf of the divine when you're speaking a prayer or message from saint francis of assisi that's saying to the universe hey i'm awake i'm paying attention okay well what are your guides going to give you they're going to say open gabby's book today right to that page those are signs and winks from the universe from your guides that you are divinely guided that you are divinely protected that you are always being led that synchronicity is your birthright that joy is your birthright that your spiritual essence is who you are period end of story done yeah you know my my

31:12Shawn Stevenson:logical brain even in those moments is like what is this like one in a hundred million chance that i would quote this particular saint and then read it in your book it's just these are impossible odds this was for me it was a moment for me that was to remember well i think that my mission particularly right now is much much more elevated in this time and my mission is to teach people that these are actually regular situations that this is actually how it is supposed to be that synchronicity and miracles are natural and that when they're not happening that there's something that's gone wrong that we're blocking them and so that we're always in awe of these moments of synchronicity but that's crazy those moments of synchronicity are how it's supposed to be all the time we're just a population a global population of people who have made many wrong-minded choices and those wrong-minded choices have led us into very dark corners and lots of protectors and negative energy and negative beliefs that have created separation attack war judgment all of the issues that we have in this lifetime all of the issues are based on that core separation from the truth of who we are think about it religious separations racial separations all of these this is all separateness it's imagine if every human was walking around believing in their divine guidance divine wisdom and synchronicity it wouldn't matter where you were born and what circumstances you were born into whether it was in poverty or whether it was in wealth you'd still be walking around with an energy of appreciation, of gratitude, of acceptance, of allowing, of surrender, of connectedness.

33:00Think about how different your life would be if these energies were what were leading us as a collective.

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35:47Shawn Stevenson:That's drinkelement.com forward slash model to get your free sample pack with any purchase, including their new electrolyte sparkling water. Again, go to drinkelement.com forward slash model. And now back to the show. One of the things you keep leaning into is the practice, is the work. It's the whole thing. And one of the things that I've done recently is I have a journal where I keep those synchronicities. Yes. Right? Because again, even some of the best of us who are aware of this and kind of just stay tapped in, stay connected, we can forget. And we start to live through our own limited power.

36:29Shawn Stevenson:and having this journal where you know again i document these magical moments and i can go back to and remember instantaneously and i made it a practice to keep on again every week i'm putting something new are you talking to your dad no okay so he's okay so i'm a channel i'm a and i don't want to totally derail this conversation but he is knocking on the door right here right now he is i don't know if you see my hand it kind of goes numb and i start he is in this room he is banging on the door he is guiding you to those moments he is with you and he's like sean we got to talk bro he's like we need to get get it going this is a new relationship he's very direct he's like this is a new relationship we need to do it this way now he's really directing you he needs to do you mind that i'm going there i did not ask your permission okay he is needs he needs to let you know right now that he wants to and has to be in your life in a big big way okay for he said shows me family but he's always still showing me career he's like he's like big skyrocketing he wants to be on your board of advisors was he like that in the in this lifetime like guy like really No, but Board of Advisors is something that I think about every day.

37:48Shawn Stevenson:Is it? Yeah, it's like a practice I have where I create a mental Board of Advisors. Okay, so this is your spiritual Board of Advisors. And he is like, I'm at the head of the table. He wants to deeply be in the internal direction. He's showing me. So in the internal direction of the next right action. And I start talking a little fast when I channel, but he's showing me the speedy, speedy, speedy, things are really picking up and you're gonna need that guide that board of directors to say hey dad what about that choice what about that choice is this the right move and he's gonna you're gonna get a clear yes and a clear no he's telling me that those synchronicities those that you're writing down that's him it's him he that's how he speaks to you he's he's coming in hot man like and it was hard to deny I'm sorry normally I can shut it off but it's like my everything is just like blowing at you um he he he's also like sometimes maybe even connecting to one of your sons too like working through one of the boys yeah this is um a very very very strong message for you so just take that that he wants to be on your board of advisors he wants to be consulting in the choices that you make and that he wants to you to know that he's super proud of you and that there's so much it's really cool here and that there's so much divine order and direction that you could be tapping into with his support that's going to take everything that you're doing to the next level and that you are here in the service of humankind and he really wants to be here to hold your hand as you do that work.

39:27Thank you, Gabby. Yeah. He's so loud. He's coming in.

39:34Shawn Stevenson:When he passed, and I didn't know at the time, everything slowed down. Everything slowed down and became overwhelming. And I can't recall ever experiencing overwhelm as an adult, you know, in this lifetime. And for a year, everything slowed down. And I know that things are going to pick up and become this kind of quicker pace towards something very special. Yes. And I've been apprehensive. I'm uncertain about it because of everything that happened. and how everything slowed down and became overwhelming and so this is very helpful for me right now because i know i can i can feel it and my i'm going to be different my life is going to be different and it's going to be beautiful but i just don't want to feel that overwhelm again well remember what i said and this was the quote that you pulled out that the presence of fear is a sign that you're relying on your own strength

40:39that you're thinking you have to figure it out. He's coming in hot right now saying, you don't have to figure this out alone. You have your board of advisors. You can go at this pace that's going to be methodical and thoughtful and inspired. And it was very important for everything to hit at the same time because it was a breakdown to break through. It had to almost be leveling out for this next level of your life in your career leveling out for the next level they don't always come in that hard but like i'm like what is this who is this oh it's dad okay yeah thank you gabby yeah really i'm so grateful i'm so grateful yeah something that you said reminded me of something i want to ask you

41:31Shawn Stevenson:about, which is for myself included, I'm experiencing what I choose to perceive, right? We're creating our own movies, right? It's one of the great analogies that you share. And we can be tuned into the fear movie, the fear and struggle channel, or we could be tuned into that positive movie, positive perspective about it. And so we are the image makers. That's right. Right? So can you talk a little bit about that? Because again, we often feel that life is happening to us. Yeah. We're in reaction to it. But we have so much agency to be able to see the world that we want to see. We are co-creating our reality at all times.

42:14When we wake up in the morning, we're going and setting the projector screen for the day ahead. We are, the way we start our days, the thoughts that we repeat, the beliefs that we carry are creating our reality. It does not mean that things outside of us don't happen. We're living amongst others. So shit's going to hit the fan, right? There's going to be fires in the streets. There's going to be protests. There's going to be war. There's going to be things. But on a day-to-day basis, what is the projector screen that we are turning on? What is the reel we are playing? and that begins with one what is our spiritual foundation and condition and our personal development practice so that we can heal the wounded beliefs because those old beliefs are going to stay with us until we stick up for them until we show up for them right it's going to keep coming up until we show up for it but also what are the day-to-day thought patterns that are just beginning to set us off from the start and i know that you're a man of habits and rituals and and so one of my greatest morning habits, I wake up in the morning and I ask myself four questions.

43:21And this is what I call the daily design method. And so I ask myself, who do I want to be today? How do I want to feel today? What do I want to give today? And what do I want to receive today? Every morning, doesn't matter how early my kid woke me up, it doesn't matter what I have to do later before i even wake up or put my my glasses on or whatever i have to do to get out of bed i ask myself those four questions who do i want to be today what do i want to feel today or how do i want to feel today what do i want to give today and what do i want to receive today why are questions so powerful well it's allowing us to actually choose right so you were saying we have the choice in the moment to create our reality the way that we want to and so making choice is the operative word we can wake up and choose to turn over to the phone look at the news look at the to-do list we can look at the dramas we can look at the things that bring us lots of stress we can choose to start our day with an attitude of what what are you going to do for me or you know walk down to our partner and say the toilet's broken or this or that or we can choose to begin our day with thoughts of what is the intention I want to create in this day.

44:43And it's a prayer to the universe. I today when I woke up this morning, I said, who do I want to be today? I said, I want to offer I want to be a speaker and I want to be a healer. I want to offer wisdom. What do I want? How do I want to feel today? I said, I want to feel energized, as you saw when I walked in. I was like, really tired. And, you know, even if that means like just tuning in and doing a meditation in the Uber on the way over here, I want to feel energized. What do I want to give today? I want to give wisdom. What do I want to receive today? I want to receive energy. I want to receive vibes.

45:13So that was really clear for me this morning. And I'm already feeling it. It's here. I feel so much energy with you. I barely slept. I've been on the road. I've been banging it out. And here I am with you. And I feel so much energy. So I'm creating that reality. Yeah.

45:27Shawn Stevenson:What if we're like, I don't want to take responsibility for that? How's that working out for you? That's up to you. This is the thing. It's all your choice. It's all your choice. Your happiness is your choice that you make. The things that happen outside of you, you cannot control. But what happens on the inside is what you can control. And it's not that you can control your experiences, but you can control your experience of your experiences. That's big. How are you going to perceive this situation? And it's a reprogramming and a training of yourself. And we're going to fall back all day. You know, I was falling back today on something and picked it back up in the moment, right?

46:11And I was getting annoyed about something I used to get annoyed about when I was talking to one of my VPs that works with me who's been with me for 12 years and something was going on. I was in my head controlling. The controller was there. And then in the moment I pivoted. I was like, she is so in the devotion. I just started hearing this in my head. She is so in the devotion of your work. I almost started visually turning the story around. I was in this place of, oh my God, this is happening too fast and we're rushing. And then all of a sudden I was like, she is deeply in the devotion of your work.

46:38Everything she does is in the devotion of bringing this forth. This is the most important divine relationship of your life. Just move into gratitude. And instantly I was like, thank you so much for your hard work. Instead of being like, wait, but why isn't this working? Why isn't that working? I just shifted my consciousness in that moment. And the more we practice these things, Sean, you're in the gym. You're training, right? Right. I'm training. I'm in the gym, too. But I'm training mentally every single day harder than anybody that's in that gym.

47:07Shawn Stevenson:I love that analogy because truly, you know, it's it's sometimes going against resistance. It's how we get stronger. Exactly. Right. And so having that spiritual gym, having that mental gym and the physical as well, of course, and training ourselves because stuff's going to happen. Yes. Right. And so in the physical aspect, we're going to come up against, you know, resistances. sometimes that we can't necessarily handle. We got to get stronger or we might have an injury or a setback or something kind of throws off our program. But the most important thing is getting back to work. Let me give you an example of that.

47:42Okay. So now for decades I've been sober. I've been spiritually fit. I have been practicing what I preach. I've been writing about what I've learned. I've been deeply in therapeutic processes and I've been healing myself tremendously. And in 2020, I did a year of IVF to try to have a second pregnancy. And if you've ever, if anyone knows about fertility treatment, it's a big, big undertaking for a woman. And I did nine rounds, which is like unheard of. It's unheard of. I mean, the amount of weight gain and hormones and every round I wasn't getting an embryo. And I wasn't even getting, I was barely getting any eggs, but I wasn't even getting any embryos and any embryo I would get wouldn't be held.

48:20It was just actually, no, I didn't get any embryos. I was just getting eggs and they were not good enough. and finally after the ninth round I got one embryo and I waited for the results because you test the embryo to see if it's healthy and I called up the woman who tests who looking at the embryo and I was like can you pray on my embryo for me and the embryo turned out to be a healthy boy and I was like I got my one and my husband and I our mantra was all you need is one all you need is one and I remember being in the in the transfer where they transfer the embryo and the embryologist came in and she's like, I'm, this is so unprofessional, but I've read your books.

48:56And I just want you to, as soon as you told me to pray over the embryo, I knew it was you. And she was like, so, and then I carried this baby for five and a half months at the, at the almost over 20 week scan. And I was still pregnant. And the doctors came in and they just kept saying, you know, what's the very concern. And they kept saying, well, what's going on and everything. Okay. And do you have any other embryos? And my husband's like, no, all you need is one. all you need is one and that day we found out that our son Owen was at almost six months no longer gonna survive he wasn't gonna withstand this life because he wasn't I actually truly didn't ever even found out exactly what was wrong but he wasn't growing and I remember sitting in that room and just hearing my husband's voice saying all you need is one and the heartache of that and then I had to go through the process of having an abortion because he was still alive it was horrific and my girlfriends were looking at me the days after and they were looking at me and they were why aren't you losing it I knew I had a protector that was really holding it together and I looked at them and I said listen I'm gonna lose it when I can lose it I'm gonna use my tools while I can I'm also gonna let this dissociation be a part of my protection right now but this is what I've been training for literally this is what I've been training for it's this type of moment in life that is what I've been counseling women on for decades.

50:19It's what I've literally been in the spiritual gym, getting mentally and spiritually fit to have the faith that even though this horrific moment is happening in my life, that there's a bigger reason. Okay, fast forward a few years now, Sean, I can sit with you right now with my seven-year-old son, Ollie, my one child, and I can tell you all you need is one. All I needed was one. My one son that I already had, Oliver. And I had to extend this journey to all those lengths to actually accept and know that all Gabby needs in this big life that I've got going, this travel that I'm doing, and this mission that I'm on is one child.

51:00And so we might think we need something. And sometimes we'll exhaust every opportunity to get that thing. But the thing we really need is revealed to us. And so that faith is what I was training for. And that faith is what carried me through that journey, it was like a blanket that held me in that extreme trauma, that faith was there for me. So that's what we have to train for. Yeah.

51:21Shawn Stevenson:Thank you. Thank you, Gabby. Thank you for sharing that. Wow. With the training, at some point, of course, we're going to fail. We're going to have those times where we can't remember. We forget about the practice or we go astray or something comes up and we don't react the way that we want to can you talk a little bit about getting back on the horse aka like what do you do when you fail i'm gonna curse right now you're gonna this up every day you're gonna be on your training path and then you're gonna act out or you're gonna get activated or you're gonna get triggered or you're gonna be like what came over me it's not about how perfectly spiritually fit you are it's how quickly you come back it's about your comeback rate and I know you would say the same thing about physical fitness you're gonna eat that chicken and waffles like you did on your birthday but then later the next day you're gonna be drinking your element and get back in the gym and getting your electrolytes and doing whatever you gotta do to just reset it's how quickly do you come back we can't hold ourselves to these standards of perfection yeah it doesn't exist that doesn't exist but that's I think that's like one of those extremes in that spiritual training that we might get a message from other teachers that that that is the goal is this perfection.

52:46Yeah. Good luck with that.

52:48Shawn Stevenson:That's why, of course, I could relate to you so much. And instantly when we met, like, it's just like, oh, this is my sister. We went deep fast. We were like right in that in Mexico in the car. We were going right into it. Yeah. Yeah. And I appreciate you for that because you're a voice that we need right now. Yeah. You know, you're really helping to take these kind of elevated principles and bring some earth to it, some groundedness to it and practicality. And again, I'm so grateful for that. Thank you. Thank you a thousand times. Now, I want to circle back because I don't feel like I've got like a comprehensive, you know, understanding of this that can be delivered to everybody.

53:31Shawn Stevenson:but when you have your morning ritual where you're asking those questions yeah there's something very very powerful about being able to question ourselves to pose these questions to ourselves can you talk a little bit more about why like the power of questions like why is that something that you talk about that you use yourself that you coach people to do we are often telling ourselves what to do, why we're wrong, what we did wrong, why we should do it differently. What is that? We are so mean to ourselves. If your child, one of your children came to you and said, Dad, I'm having a hard time. I did this thing.

54:11I'm not happy about it. I feel ashamed. What would you do? You would put your hand on their back. You'd say, what do you need? you'd be compassionate you'd be empathetic you'd be calm you'd connect but the children inside of us we treat them so horribly we we speak so unkindly to these little children these protection mechanisms inside how'd you do that again why are we back here again you're such an idiot we got to and that we shut it down we fight against it this query the ink the inquisition the the curiosity is the most compassionate way we can treat ourselves so instead of saying the what did you do you can ask the why did this happen why did you need to do that why do you feel that way That why is the curiosity question.

55:07It's the compassionate response. And so it's really about treating ourselves like little children and recognizing that we have an internal self inside that's like an internal parent that's always available through curiosity and compassion to tease out the why and to help. That's why self help. That self is there to help in any given moment.

55:30Shawn Stevenson:yeah have to get into the practice of it that was the specific thing that i wrote down and circled like 27 times while i'm sitting here in that four-step process with self-help self-help what do you need yes asking yourself and that part of you what do you need and having the the patience and the awareness and the compassion to just ask because my tendency would be to just push through just keep pushing keep going you gotta just keep going and just to check in and just ask what do you need yeah what do you need right now yeah yeah if you're in the gym and you're you're you're hurting your knees hurting are you most people i imagine not you but you wouldn't push over it right you're gonna you're gonna be like whoa i want to protect that knee i'm gonna go check it out i'm gonna sit down i'm gonna put some ice on it you're going to check in we don't do that with our emotional well-being so true so true so for you right now what is your what is your big mission right now where you are again like you said seven years ago gabby and our connection would have been different it would have been awesome very different it would have been a beautiful mission but and it's been pretty consistent but i think it's more grounded now yeah and it's more fully integrated and aligned right now and my mission is very clear and it's you said it out loud which is to democratize and demystify the divine to help people have faith in this incredibly shaky time right now i'm writing a new book i believe this also i'll share the working title here for the first time i think it's called unshakable light is what i want the book to be called and it's it's it's about living with a unshakable knowing that we are divinely guided we are it's going to be required it's it's we haven't even seen a fraction of what's coming and i don't want to be terrifying people but we got to wake up we got to wake up to what is happening around us with the division with the environment with ai with everything that's happening in the world so we have to be spiritually fit and so it is my absolute mission and commitment to the world at this time to be a translator for the divine and to make it accessible and to make people feel empowered that they can have a faith of their own understanding so that they can feel safer inside that's it oh i love it i love it one of the things from that talk that i mentioned that i did in atlanta was a call to action for everybody that AI is here.

58:10Shawn Stevenson:We're just seeing the very, very, the preschool of it. And it's going to get to graduate school within a couple of years. And one of the things I was advocating for is for us to be more human than we've ever been before. It is required right now. And this is something that there's no stopping it. In some ways, it's kind of a race to the bottom with some of these companies that are investing in this, but there's going to be opportunity. And I think the opportunity is to direct ourselves back to us again. It's exactly right. It's exactly right. Get offline. Get, you know, get outside. I picked up tennis this summer, like hardcore, like two times a week with a pro.

58:53And it's the greatest gift I give myself because I'm just outside for an extra two hours a day. Just be outside. Get off your phone. Get outdoors. Use your hands. Get creative. Also learn AI, to be really honest. Learn AI. It's the folks that know AI that will still have jobs. So learn AI, which is just a warning, right? I'm deep in it. I enjoy it. I'm using it for the right purposes. You have to lean into it. But get outside.

59:24Shawn Stevenson:With all this stuff, there's a right use or a righteous use of this technology. It's here. What are we going to do with it? What's the purpose, right? So can we make our clones? Yes, I've done it. I'm sure you're on the path, right? You've got the Gabby AI here. She's going to be right in my app. You can, but why? Okay. What's the purpose? I'm leaning in. Somebody can, they need my help. They can talk to me at three o 'clock in the morning. They can talk to Gabby AI whenever they need her in my app. That, that is leaning into it. I'm not going to say, oh no, I'm never going to touch that. I'm going to say, okay, it's here.

59:55I got to use it. Let me use it to my advantage to really help people. Is that the dream scenario? Maybe not, but maybe it's going to be really, really impactful for people that were like, I needed that moment. And I've been using it. It's amazing. I'm in this alpha test of this clone. And it's like, I'm like, go Gabby, nice answer. Because she's been fed 20 years of books and lectures and podcasts and endless content. So she's really speaking my truth. And listen, I think spirit is in all of it. So I have to trust that.

1:00:28Shawn Stevenson:Where can people pick up your books? And also this incredible innovation that you have, where can people get access? I think this is the place to go. So my app is called the Gabby Coaching App. And so you can get in the app store, you can go to deargabby.com app. And that is the best place to get my, you can get self-help check-ins from the books. You can get manifesting challenges and trust the universe challenge and hundreds of meditations and daily practices. But the biggest thing that's going to be entering this app in the next month is Gabby AI. And so you're going to open the app and you can just talk to Gabby AI and I can coach you and I can help you get grounded and I can help you connect to your spiritual relationship and so I my AI can Gabby AI she can do it but I also can do it through the transmission of all the work that's in there and so I think that would be the best first step is for somebody to go try that out or if they're thinking I want to really feel that connection that we are talking about today I have a challenge called trust the universe and that is the trust universe challenge it's really deep and it's really effective for what we've been talking about today and of course my books or on Amazon or whatever, you know.

1:01:29Yeah, awesome. If you feel called, you'll feel called.

1:01:31Shawn Stevenson:Final question. Gabby Bernstein, what is the model that you're here to create for the world with the way that you live your life personally?

1:01:45I am living my life with intention and alignment. and in doing so I hope to teach that through my presence yeah I feel it this room is full it's yeah there's a lot going on in this room there's a lot of energy dads in here the whole

1:02:07Shawn Stevenson:thing Gabby this has been a blessing for me I appreciate you so much for coming by to hang out with us one of my favorite interviews Sean let's go that's what I'm talking about yeah no I have a lot of this is one of my favorites it was destined yeah really beautiful well we've got the one and only Gabby Bernstein, everybody. Thank you so very much for tuning into this episode today. I hope that you got a lot of value out of this. Again, you know the mantra, apply, apply, apply. Take some of these insights and put them into practice. And definitely check out Gabby's wonderful books. Again, number one New York Times bestselling author.

1:02:44Shawn Stevenson:Number one is crazy. All right. Right. So some of the things she's created, these books have been movements and it's very special. And, you know, she's impacted lives and supported a lot of people and a lot of transformations. But as she mentioned, it's a practice. And so having this practice of remembering how powerful you are and that you're not alone and that you don't have to rely on your strength solely. and also being able to do that inner work and to build those spiritual muscles, build those mental and emotional muscles to handle life's inevitable challenges. All right, we've got to put in that work and I think we need to do that now more than ever.

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Whether you want to get fitter, improve your relationships, or advance in your career, it all starts with mindset. And if you want to unlock your full potential, you’ll have to identify and eliminate self-sabotaging, negative patterns. That’s exactly what you’re going to learn on today’s show. On this episode of The Model Health Show, our guest is #1 New York Times bestselling author, Gabby Bernstein. She’s here to share the transformative work from her books, including how to overcome the self-sabotage that’s stopping you from reaching your goals. This episode contains conversations on understanding yourself better so you can create the life you desire. You’re going to learn about true inner work and what it entails, how your past can inform the way you behave today, and how to compassionately connect with yourself. Gabby is bringing so much value to this interview, and I hope this conversation resonates with you. Enjoy!  
In this episode you’ll discover: 
The truth about self-sabotage. (9:14)

What the different types of protection mechanisms are. (10:28)

How childhood trauma can manifest into a state of protection. (12:53)

What being happy actually is. (15:25)

Why Gabby called her newest book Self Help. (15:34)

What fear is a sign of. (17:21)

The four steps of a self-help practice. (20:28)

What the greatest gift you can offer yourself is. (21:23)

Why doing inner work can help you create the life you want. (28:04)

What synchronicity is and why it happens. (31:30)

The four questions Gabby asks herself every morning. (43:17)

How to control your experience of your experience. (45:42)

The importance of training mentally. (46:58)

How to handle failure. (51:54)

Why curiosity is a compassionate response to yourself. (53:53)

A conversation on AI. (58:01) 

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