How Your Tongue Health Influences Your Lifespan & the Type of Exercise That Ages You Faster - With Dr. Daniel Pompa

24:18Shawn Stevenson:I was just going to say, we've had on some of the top trainers when it comes to bodybuilding uh, MMA, you know, performance, all that stuff. And they're saying something very similar to what you're saying.

24:29Dr. Daniel Pompa:Yeah. Yeah. So I think the reason I have to discuss these things now is because low carb is so in vogue, right? But every diet moves in and out, right? You know, it'll move from low carb to plant-based to, you know, carnivore now, right? You know, avoiding different plant toxins. So diets come in and out of vogue, but I'm always clear to make the point of they're all good but if you stay in any one diet too long you will create health problems stay in a carnivore diet too long watch what happens now i would argue carnivore diets can transform people because their their gut got so inflamed they're reacting to all these plant toxins you know but that's a new thing everyone's running from oxalates and lectins thinking they're bad it's like well are they bad or is our digestion bad i would argue it's the digestion that's bad um but that's a whole nother topic.

25:19Dr. Daniel Pompa:But the fact is, is that if you stay in ketosis too long, you'll create problems too, right? So you want to move in and out of different diets, just like our ancestors did.

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28:41Shawn Stevenson:And now back to the show. One of the things we really connected on before we connected was I've intentionally brought on the different voices, like the top people in the respective diet framework, the top carnivore MD, the top, you know, vegan MD, because these are tools. These are tools. And if people actually take the time and, you know, and really study their work, they're helping people. You know, a lot of their patients are getting well when they've tried quote everything. Absolutely. But, and, let me say and, there's a significant percentage of their patients who don't get the same results following that protocol of all or nothing.

29:18Shawn Stevenson:And so we highlight and lift up like some people, this is what they need right now. And they deserve to know about it, get education, hear from the guy and hear about the framework, but also to keep it in perspective and to know that these things are tools and seasons change. It's true.

29:34Dr. Daniel Pompa:And people, two things, people get on a diet and whatever works for them now becomes their diet, you see, because it worked for them. So it's very psychological that, hey, I went plant-based vegan and I feel better. So they stay vegan. And then they end up a year later with new problems and they don't associate it with the diet because the diet made them feel better, right? And I would argue, take anyone from the standard American diet, put them in a vegan diet, you're going to have, you're going to feel certain things get better, right? Put some on the standard American diet, put them in a carnivore diet, certain things may get better.

30:09Dr. Daniel Pompa:But to your point though let's say you put someone on a carnivore diet who has low hcl and can't break down fat because they're not making bio on their liver how are they going to do on that diet horribly so then they make the mistake of saying that diet's not for me well it's not for you because you have an issue right it's like meaning we have the ability to move in and out of any different diet ketosis isn't a diet carnivore arguably isn't even a diet i mean it's ketosis a metabolic state when your carbohydrates get so low then your body starts to use fat as a dominant energy and it makes ketones that your brain can use that's a metabolic state that's really not a diet our bodies are designed to go through that state because there was a lot of times when the only thing you had was this meat to eat and your body's designed to deal with that but if something's broken it may not so that doesn't mean the diet's bad for you or that state it just means that something's going on.

31:05Dr. Daniel Pompa:So oftentimes we put people on, you know, what they can tolerate, and then we bring them back to different tools because they're tools. Exactly right. You know, and you can use any diet as a tool. You can use food as a tool. And everyone is different, right? So not one diet is perfect for everybody, but your body should be healthy enough to be through any of these healthy diets we're talking about. Yeah.

31:29Shawn Stevenson:Oh, I love this. Thank you for bringing up like humans. I've said this before, we've tried to eat everything throughout our evolution. And we are like the ultimate hybrid engine. You know what I mean? Like we can take so many different things and utilize it for fuel. It's such a blessing. And to demonize what our ancestors figured out a long time ago, it's just silly. And even to see the newly invented stuff that we're eating today, humans are still adapting in certain ways to even straight up poison. And many of the diseases we're seeing are actually adaptations that we're giving these labels for our body if we're looking at insulin resistance it's finding a way to keep you alive and adapt under unideal circumstances

32:10Dr. Daniel Pompa:number one thing the body always wants to do is adapt right you know it's like in we don't give it enough credit i'm i'm always amazed by the human body that god made because it's remarkable what it can adapt to. But see, this premise of adaptation is actually a premise called hormesis. Hormesis means that we stress a biological system like ourselves, and when it adapts, you get stronger, faster, smarter, healthier. If it doesn't adapt, weaker, slower, more unhealthy, right, etc., etc. And again, exercise, we get that, right? If you don't adapt to the stress, then that stress becomes bad and a good trainer will say oh you know we're over training well how do you know i can see you don't look like you're so yeah i'm not sleeping as good and of course with devices heart rate variability heart rate variability is dropping your heart rate's rising we're going to back off the exercise but i feel good your body's not adapting we're heading for a dive meaning you're able as a good trainer to look at your butt your your persons who you're training their physical appearance how they feel asking questions and even parameters like heart rate variability heart rate temperature body temperature etc and go over training not adapting so what do they do they pull back or they switch something okay that's a good trainer now that premise goes to everything almost in life including diet i teach a lot of fasting but what i explain to people is fasting is a great stress.

33:43Dr. Daniel Pompa:You know, you can't do the same fast that someone who fasts a lot does because it's a stress to you and you may not adapt. And if you don't adapt, it gets worse. Cold baths. I'm, you know, people think I hate cold baths. People think I hate red lights. It's not true. It's not true. And I don't hate saunas either, but all of these things apply to hormesis. If you're in that cold bath too long, let's say you're traveling, you have all these stressors this happened to me and my son said let's do the cold bath so um i just arrived that day i was traveling i went in the cold bath and i forced it out for whatever longer than i should have it was probably like four minutes or something like that it was really cold i got out felt amazing of course i felt amazing right you know just to get the endorphins even and that night man i was like ah i'm gonna go to bed early i'm tired right woke up the next day didn't want to get out of bed, ended up getting sick the next day.

34:40Dr. Daniel Pompa:See, I didn't adapt to the stress because of the travel, because of whatever. The point is, is that don't try to do the same amount of ice bath as this person or that person, because your adaptation is very different than theirs, or we call it the hermitic ceiling. So the key is adaptation, whether it be a hot sauna, a cold bath, or exercise, or diet or fasting, all of those apply to that principle. Adaptation is the key. So therefore, you cannot expect your body to do what this person does. Fantastic. We violate this principle constantly in our life. We do. So if you get really good at really understanding what your body needs and feeling your body out, then you can really take your health to another level.

35:27Dr. Daniel Pompa:You know why we do that? It's because we don't listen to our bodies. That's right. That's right. That's why rings and the aura rings and things like this, you know, are very good because people don't listen to that either. I found them. The heart rate variability goes down and it's all of a sudden it's like, you know, oh man, my heart rate variability is down. Okay. Yeah. You're overstressed. Yeah. Whatever. Exactly. What they say is I didn't sleep well, but they don't ask the question. Why? Right. You know, which stress did you have in your life that, you know, or have in your life that you need to like slow down, man, slow down.

36:00Shawn Stevenson:so that's the idea yeah so it's not just working out but working in you know being able to listen to that data because it's always there you know and what we're doing and i'm grateful that we have aspirational protocols to follow and tuning into the experts but 10 seconds of a cold bath or maybe of a cold shower might be perfect for you yeah versus three minutes i love you man because

36:25Dr. Daniel Pompa:you're a study reader i can i can tell you know and that was a study right that was a study that the 10 second shower but so ask yourself why did that outperform you know the longer durations it's simple because they studied average people average people can't hop into a three minute cold bath and adapt they don't adapt so therefore when they did 10 seconds in a cold shower that's not as cold, less time. They did adapt and they got a better outcome. More is not better, right? And so that's why I love that study. But people misunderstood why it was better. Now, for someone like my buddy Ben Greenfield, it wouldn't be better, you know, because 10 seconds would not be enough stress for him, right?

37:12Dr. Daniel Pompa:You know, to get the response that he's looking for. So that's like the Olympic athlete who's training at a very high level, you know, and then, you know, have them run for, you know, two miles down the road, right? It's like, that's not going to be enough stress for them. You know, they have to do more stress to hit to that level of adaptation to get the award. See, the magic is the adaptation. And that's maybe what I'm not saying. When your body adapts, you get hormonally optimized so when you come out of the cold bath why why is a cold bath beneficial because the body thinks it's going to die number one survival okay what does it do upregulate something called norepinephrine which is a survival mechanism and then that upregulates your growth hormone that down regulates inflammation cytokine activity and the body goes into this survival mode and then if you adapt you become more hormonally optimized and You stay in a down-regulated situation inflammation-wise.

38:12Dr. Daniel Pompa:But if you don't, the exact opposite happens. You increase inflammation and all these bad things start to happen. You see, so the body's adaptation process is what makes you stronger, better, faster, healthier, if you adapt.

38:27Shawn Stevenson:Yes, yes, fantastic, fantastic. So just to put a pin on this, all of these are tools. Tools. And again, this kind of like all or nothing mentality is part of the problem. Again, the ice bath is, no, that doesn't work for me. That's not good for me. Maybe it's the dose. That's right, it's the dose. And so just keeping this in context and being grateful we have access to these different tools in different ways, even at home. I mean, there was times growing up because I grew up in poverty, we didn't have heat. And so the cold shower was just because, you know what I mean? And so, keeping this in context, We don't need a fancy tub or whatever the case might be.

39:08Shawn Stevenson:A cold shower can stimulate some of this adaptive, this hormesis. And you just mentioned so many pieces of why it works underneath the surface, which is really awesome. But I wanna drive this conversation to something else that a lot of people don't consider when they think about aging and how they're aging. And it is how our bodies are interacting with them responding to toxins or toxic load. And when I was in college, of course, like the term toxin would be brought up, but in a certain context in biology, but today, because the word is so stretched out, I guess, is a gentle way to put it. I think when sometimes people hear toxin, they might think of something very soft or it doesn't have credibility.

39:58Shawn Stevenson:And so can you talk about the relationship between toxins and how we age and why do toxins matter in the first place

40:07Dr. Daniel Pompa:you know this is a great topic and i would even add one thing to that is because there's so much toxin talk these days it almost puts people in that mentality of well yeah we're there's toxins everywhere right it's like almost like so what can we do about it like nothing well that that's absolutely not true and um i i have to say toxicity today let me start here if you look at like you know robert f kennedy jr bobby kennedy is um he's several times had said the gut problems it's not gluten or the gluten problems it's not gluten it's the chemical glyphosate meaning this chemical even when you eat if you and i went out right now and just ate some regular non-organic food most likely it's sprayed with glyphosate glyphosate goes down into our gut affects something called zonulin and it opens up our gut and that and by the way zonulin is normal it's meant to open up to let certain nutrition through but glyphosate does it prematurely and certain proteins go across our gut undigested and if that happens enough your body will make antibodies to it aka gluten sensitivity and lectin sensitivity oxalate sensitivity plant toxin histamine sensitivities right so it opens up and then eventually it'll close again and you know and then things pass through now when it stays open we call that leaky gut and some people's guts are leaky they're inflamed and they're passing everything through their gut they're very reactive response responding to everything mass cell activation we have names for these things now but fact is is even when glyphosate enters all of us it has that opening and maybe our bodies you know work to shut it down and our bodies you know aren't making antibodies but that's the case not with most people most people are opening up gluten goes across and they're reacting to it so is it the gluten no because if they didn't if we didn't have the chemical glyphosate opening up the gut most people would not be responding to the gluten beyond celiac disease.

42:16Dr. Daniel Pompa:That's a different story. Okay, so I say all that to say chemicals are the reason, and Bobby has made this very public. If you look at what's happened in the last 50, 60 years, the rise of chronic disease even in children, this is a chemical problem. Processed food, yes, we need to absolutely eat less processed food however many countries eat more carbohydrates like italians do i think it's 20 more than us but yet why don't we see fat people why don't we see the gut problems because we don't have the chemicals their wheat doesn't have the glyphosate you know they're they're vegetables they're not spraying them like we are here the chemicals and i could get into personal care products.

43:07Dr. Daniel Pompa:I could get into all these places where we are getting inundated with chemicals. The last 50 to 60 years, the chemical revolution has decimated the health of humanity. And if we don't deal with that problem, we're not going to impact. So the point is, is that we have to understand if we desire to make our families healthy again, our families, then we better control the chemicals that are coming into our families and that's a discussion because where are they coming from it's not just food food water of course air i say get air fresheners out of everything that you're using including your personal care products what your laundry detergents and all that it is poison you know of course all the microplastics from plastic bottles we're drinking out of glass and glass bottles i saw that because i won't do it but the point is is we have to detoxify our life what's coming in and then what's accumulated in us that's a whole other conversation too because these things are called persistent toxins and they bioaccumulate in our bodies and once they get to a certain level which i say your bucket overflows and that's when your health problems start then you have to deal with what's accumulated many people who are healthy and just want to stay healthy then you better deal with what's coming into your homes and into you and your children.

44:30If you don't, you're going to be a statistic. Wow.

44:34Shawn Stevenson:Thank you for sharing that. Just to get a scope of how big this issue is, the recent estimates approximately 330 to 900 billion pounds of synthetic chemical materials are released into the environment globally each year. All right. We're talking upwards of 900 billion pounds. And a huge percentage of these these chemicals fall under the category of volatile organic compounds. And so, again, the idea or the perspective might be, well, we don't know if these things are harming us, if they're dangerous to humans. The things that have been studied and have been affirmed, they still get caught up in all this red tape.

45:17Shawn Stevenson:And one of those, because you mentioned earlier about glyphosate, and it's just like a normal part of farming practice. But one of these is, and this was published in the journal chemosphere, uncovering the intake of one of the most widely used pesticides called chlorpyrifos can promote obesity and insulin resistance through influencing the gut and the microbiome. Now, here's part of the problem. This is a rodent study. It's so crazy because many rodent studies are used to push forward different pharmaceuticals. And so this has a valid place, but we'll take it a step further. Clopyrifos works by attacking, in particular, insects' nervous systems.

46:02Shawn Stevenson:But according to researchers at Columbia University, one of the most devastating issues seen is in pregnant humans exposed to clopyrifos, finding that it led to significant impairment in the development of their children's brains. I'm sick of this shit, man. I'm sick of it. Like the world that we are allowing to be created around us, It's just like, we have to prove that it's hurting us instead of proving that it's safe first. I know. That's how we lead to 900 billion pounds of newly invented synthetic chemicals, just inundating our environment, the air that we breathe, the food that we're eating, the water that we drink, you know, all the products that we buy.

46:40Shawn Stevenson:We've got to slow this down. And the issue is so far out of reach for even regulation at this point. I think when we people need to vote for their dollars, that's the only way things change.

46:55Dr. Daniel Pompa:It's all money. Right. I mean, if you look at the chemical industry, this is big, big, big, big business. Right. And it's amazing that Bobby's still alive. And I say that, thank God, because the man is called for such a time as this. I believe in my heart. And he's been fighting this fight for a long time. Bipartisan, bipartisan, put your politics aside. You know, this guy, you know, when he went over on this side, because this side was rejecting him, you know, then they started hating him. It's like, there's nothing to hate about him. I knew Bobby before, you know, he even had a desire to be in politics.

47:33Dr. Daniel Pompa:And he's been after making kids healthy again, was always his, you know, drive. And he has won big battles with Monsanto and glyphosate. And yet they're still selling it at Home Depot. Yet it's still sprayed on our food supply because the billions of dollars that are involved here. Countries like Mexico, Italy, France have banned this substance. And yet here in the United States, we're spraying it on our food. And not only that, they came up with a clever way of if you spray it on grains before harvest, they shrivel up. It's called desiccation. And it makes harvest yields go that much higher. And yet the amount of this chemical is just grotesque that is in our grains.

48:19Dr. Daniel Pompa:That's why grains are one of the big problems, you know, because there's so much of this chemical. And then we're genetically modifying our food. I just met a gal yesterday at the dentist, and her family has some of the biggest farms in Mexico. And she even has 40 acres that she farms limes but she said one of the problems is is that they grow stuff for the united states they call it their exports and they want them to grow spread certain chemicals even to pass the fda it has to be sprayed on these to bring them into the u.s but what they found is that the bees would take the chemicals and bring them over to here and ruin their seed and so they're testing their seed and they're finding the chemicals so now they have to take all these and export all of them and start over in different areas.

49:08Dr. Daniel Pompa:So they're finding that this to be, literally, our food is contaminating their food because, you know, they get higher, more dollars when they export the stuff, but they're trying to grow stuff for their country and it's getting contaminated. You know, but that's what's happening to us. You know, if you look at what the devastating effect that these chemicals are having on humanity, this is an experiment gone bad. In this generation, my kids, your kids, first generation not to outlive their parents. That's a chemical problem. Do you understand? Our processed food looks differently than Italy and France.

49:46Dr. Daniel Pompa:Go there yourselves. You've probably been. Look at the ingredients, a few ingredients in their processed food. Our processed food, it's a whole different, it's a super processed food. Chemical list this long this long i mean it you can't even read half of it because it's just chemicals that's the problem that's the problem oh and then the stuff that's in there that they don't even have to put on there like the pesticides they're spraying atrazine did you i know you read that study right it made the male frogs female by you know when they sprayed the chemical uh you know on the uh what'd they spread the ovaries the eggs or you know and it made them female i i think that this generation doesn't have the chance that we did and it is driving the chronic disease and no wonder we're seeing cancer rates rise no wonder autism rates are going off the chart no wonder diabetes for the first time you know alzheimer's disease for the first time in 40 year olds what what?

50:48It's chemicals.

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53:23Dr. Daniel Pompa:choose it it chose me yeah pain to purpose um that 1999 2000 2001 2 3 4 i was very sick like people looking for an answer you know because of my degree i was able to read literature it's about all my degree got me as being able to read the scientific literature digging for answers and trying different things didn't work did work um everything i i've been teaching doctors now what i learned for the last 20 some years and that all came out of what i learned to get my own life back and um i had major heavy metal issues a lot of mercury in my brain that i accumulated through my life my mother had silver fillings in by the way there's a study called the drash study it's a german study the number of silver fillings in mom's mouth is proportional to how much mercury on autopsies they found in the baby's brain very accurate proportionally and that was my first exposure and then of course i got my own silver fillings and by the way those silver fillings contain 50 mercury that vaporizes mercury right across across the blood-brain barrier turns to inorganic mercury and it's locked in the brain just to accumulate more for the rest of your life has a half-life very long and then i wore contact lenses um in the 70s 80s early 90s which the saline solution had thimerosal in it mercury derivative going right into our eyes they've outlawed it in the early 90s but how many of us enjoyed that of course there was a time where i was eating a lot of tuna because i was into working out right so i got some sources there in that time when i got sick my bucket overflowed i was also living in a low-grade moldy home and I had dental work done and it just sent my bucket overflowing.

55:20Dr. Daniel Pompa:He drilled out two amalgams and put a gold filling in and it was causing something called galvanism. So when you have what is called opposing metals in your mouth, meaning I had gold and I still had silver fillings and he took two out, which vaporized a lot of mercury. He didn't do it correctly. He didn't know better and he's a friend of mine so he's learned he does it different now but the gold creates a galvanic reaction with the other metals a battery is two opposing metals in an asset that's what a battery is gives a current that's what was happening to me so the remainder of the fillings the mercury was pouring out 10 times faster than normal because of the current but the brain hates metal in the mouth because it creates current galvanism when i got that gold out i remember going whoa it was like a load it was a level of anxiety left and my sleep got better right there and then as i got the mercury out of my brain you know i slowly got my life back but i also became hypersensitive to that moldy home too when i got out of there it brought me to another level One thing I've learned over the years is that it's typically a perfect storm.

56:36Dr. Daniel Pompa:It's not one thing that makes your bucket overflow. And all of a sudden, the anxiety, the sleep, the energy. It's three stressors that come together and boom. And then your bad genes get triggered. And then you're manifesting symptoms. But, you know, all of that really what led me to do what I do. I always had to tell this part of the story. when i was um i had two young kids at the time five kids now but at that time i had two young boys and life became with me very hard to live with because i became someone that i wasn't i mean i became extremely volatile um mad as a hatter that's part of the story because i was digging for answers, I found Mad Hatter's disease and people making felt hats were using mercury and as part of the process and they became known as Mad Hatter's.

57:33Dr. Daniel Pompa:I'm like, I have every symptom, you know, the, even the anxiety and the mood changes, the unexplainable irritability, anger, depression. And I went and got a blood test and it came back normal amounts within normal. And it was a year or so later, I was working with a very bright endocrinologist because I was chasing adrenal issues constantly, thyroid issues, hormone issues. And he said to me, I think you have mercury toxicity because your fluctuations in body temperature and some other symptoms. And I said, I thought so too, but I did a blood test. He said, wrong test. If it was in your blood, you'd be getting exposed every day.

58:10Dr. Daniel Pompa:I think it's chronic. Well, long story short, he was right. But fast forward to that. My wife was on her knees praying many times. This particular time, God spoke to her heart. She says clear as she could hear a voice, but she didn't. It was right to her heart that not only is he going to get me well, but I'm going to take a message to the world. Now, when she would tell me that, I'd get very angry. I didn't want to hear that because I would say to her exactly i can't even get myself well so how do you expect me to do that that's right she hung on to that promise and as i found out this year my oldest son also hung on to that he said mom it was you saying that that made me feel like it was going to be okay for for dad and our family and so pain to purpose absolutely gave me the purpose but pain to purpose to promise is our family motto because that promise is why i sit here she was right or god was right through her so that's how i got into this yeah thank you for sharing that wow um if you could again you found

59:27Shawn Stevenson:some ways to help yourself to heal and you've taught a myriad of different protocols and tools for others to look into. So when we're talking about like, yeah, we are just inundated, we're living in a quote toxic world, which even that we need to have that mentally as like we're okay, we're resilient. With that being said though, what are some practical ways that we can actually support our body's ability to detoxify some of these things we're exposed to, especially in abnormal quantities? because again, it's a concern of safety as well when we're detoxifying. So what are some things you could share with us to support healthy detoxification?

1:00:13Dr. Daniel Pompa:Think of that. I've said the bucket a few times, like my bucket overflowed, right? I mentioned also, where does it start in utero, right? We inherit mom's toxins. Matter of fact, the number one cause of lead toxicity comes from mom. It's stored, lead stored in the bone. It's normal to lose bone during pregnancy. and out comes the lead. And so our buckets start filling then one day overflows. So think of this, we use the bathtub this time as the bucket. We have the ability to control what goes in. Let's say the spigot is just flooding, right? But we notice that the drain is clogged and it's going up, going up, going up.

1:00:53Dr. Daniel Pompa:We can slow down that spigot. To your point, I doubt we're going to be able to turn it off today, right? We're getting exposures no matter what. but we can slow it down and then if we open up the drain now we're adapting because we're going to get exposures walk outside you're going to get exposures you know you drink out of plastic you're getting exposure now the mistake is i'm going to get exposed anyway right so what's the difference now that's that's not right because you you can and should turn down that spigot Otherwise, that bucket, that bathtub is going to overflow. And then the ceiling, it's upstairs and all the ceiling's falling through.

1:01:35Dr. Daniel Pompa:What we're doing is we keep repairing this instead of dealing with what's up there, the leaking bathtub, right? That's what we have to deal with. So you can deal with the big ones. You and your family should not be drinking city water. Get an RO unit for 400 bucks, okay? Big deal. And that keeps you from drinking out of plastic too. So, you know, change your water. Change a lot of the products you're bringing into your home. One of the big ones is laundry detergent. You can walk outside and take a walk in your neighborhood. And I can, I always say, I can spot the homes that are overweight. How?

1:02:14Dr. Daniel Pompa:I smell it. Meaning if they're washing their clothes with regular laundry detergent using fabric softener, they're going to have some form of weight loss resistance. Really? Yes. because those chemicals that they use in laundry detergents and especially in fabric softeners they're endocrine disruptors that means they're hormone disruptors the main reason why america has a weight problem it's chemicals i already made that point weight loss resistance is a new problem meaning even when you change your diet and exercise you still don't lose weight it's because the chemicals you made the point in that one study affects the microbiome but it does something else.

1:02:54Dr. Daniel Pompa:It causes cellular inflammation. And all of your hormones have to interact with receptors on your cells for them to work. Your thyroid. It doesn't matter if you produce the perfect amount of thyroid or take thyroid hormone. If it can't attach to that receptor and get into the cell, you're not going to burn fat normally. You're going to get fat and you're not going to have energy and you're going to have brain fog. Well, guess what? You could go to your doctor and say, hey, your blood work still looks normal because thyroid hormone can't get in to an inflamed cell. The number one cause of inflammation is toxins.

1:03:28Dr. Daniel Pompa:Those toxins that they're putting in laundry detergent, fabric softener, they disrupt your hormones in multiple ways. They even mimic your hormones. They keep your hormones from transitioning to active forms. They drive cellular inflammation, blocking your hormones from getting where they interact. Hormones don't do anything in your blood, they have to interact with your cells. But when your cells are toxic, they inflame and they don't work. So people take hormones, make their blood levels better, go to their back to their doctor and it says, great, look, your thyroid hormone looks so much better.

1:03:59Dr. Daniel Pompa:I don't feel better because your cells are inflamed. When you wash your clothes in this type of fabric softener and all these chemicals, the fragrances that they use in those, they don't have to by law tell you what the chemicals are matter of fact they have they're protected by ip laws intellectual property they can use banned chemicals that they know cause hormone problems even cancer in those products and we're putting them on our clothes and wearing our clothes throughout the day where do you think those chemicals are going they act transdermally they go right through into your bloodstream that's what they do just like we put hormones on through our skin that's what your clothes are doing oh no it doesn't stop there because then you sleep in the sheets for eight hours hotels now fortunately have stopped most good hotels have stopped using fragrance because of the allergies that people have but people don't know that it's still affecting them even if you don't have an allergy so the point is is you need to change what you're washing your clothes and what are you washing your dishes and what are you cleaning your counters with what personal care products lotions shampoos you know if they have a list of ingredients and you're buying it in a regular grocery store stop these are the things that you need to buy healthy i know you're going to spend a little more money but there's always ways around it there's always things you can do you know to to cut those costs but i'm telling you pay now or pay later because if you don't make those changes as a family your bucket's going to overflow your bathtub's overflowing then you're going to be paying to fix the ceiling you're going to be paying to fix the carpet you're going to be paying to fix the walls because of the damage that the overflow has now caused you know so that's the issue amazing

1:05:40Shawn Stevenson:thank you thank you so that's the control what you have coming in that's the control what you're

1:05:46Dr. Daniel Pompa:coming in what you have coming in now what about the drainage that's the other problem that's what i've been teaching for 20 some years yeah no no doubt i mean in my instagram and you know i i teach like do these things right i mean this this will you know is the start but a lot of these chemicals are called persistent chemicals and they accumulate in our flesh and then we need things to help our body get rid of them look i i teach something called my five r's of how you detox a cell five r's of cellular healing and i developed these to teach doctors but then the public kind of caught on to it uh it's it's a whole course right i mean it's like i i don't want to do it justice i i always want to be sympathetic to somebody sitting out there just give me that one thing, right?

1:06:34Dr. Daniel Pompa:Look, it's detox is a cellular issue, meaning this massive amount of chemicals that I'm making the argument that is driving chronic disease accumulates in us at the cellular level. It starts to decrease your cell's ability to get rid of it. The good news is, and you mentioned it already, we're resilient. God gave us cells that get rid of these toxins. If they didn't, we'd be dead. So here's what happens. Our cells' ability to get rid of these toxins gets less and less and less with more and more exposure and more and more accumulation. Once they stop, now you start really building up toxins in there.

1:07:15Dr. Daniel Pompa:And that's when the gene gets triggered because your DNA is in that cell. That's when you say, I have no energy and stimulants aren't even working anymore. That's when you're going, all my hormones are dysregulated and taking hormones doesn't even seem like it's working. Toxins have now built up in the cell because the body's inability to get rid of it. So it's like if you take an apple and put it in a tailpipe of a car, it'll run, it'll run. All of a sudden, the power will start to go. This actually happened. This is a true story. So we were at some party. We were in high school and we drove there.

1:07:50Dr. Daniel Pompa:And I think it was my friend's dad's pickup. No, I think I was driving. It was our friend's pickup. But anyways, needless to say, I was driving, but it wasn't my truck. Anyway, so we're driving home and the power's like going. I'm like, man, like you guys are heavy. I'm making fun of them. Like this thing doesn't have power anymore. What's going on? And all of a sudden we're going, it's getting worse and worse. The next hill, we didn't make it up and boom, it went complete, gone. We looked at the whole tailpipe, like it was glowing red. someone stuffed an apple literally in the tailpipe what happened first the power started going before the engine actually you know went right but literally that's what happens when our cells are inflamed and you know literally you're trying to make energy trying to make energy and they're just getting more and more toxic so the more energy you make it's building up in that cell the toxins because when you make energy when you burn wood in a fireplace you make smoke and you better have the damper open to get the smoke out that's a healthy cell the toxins are going out as you're making cellular energy but when that cell gets toxic and inflamed now the toxins build up in the cell and that's what happened to that truck the energy went first so if your energy's dying first that's the first sign so what we do that membrane of the cell is how the toxins get in and out well how the good stuff gets in the toxins get out so i teach a whole class on how to make membranes healthy.

1:09:16Dr. Daniel Pompa:Good fats like phosphatidylcholine and good omega-6, good omega-3, I mean, very important. Fats make up that membrane. So I call it lipid therapy and how we come in with good and we stop all the vegetable and canola oil. Step one, stop all vegetable canola oil, sunflower oil, corn oil, soy oil. Those are rancid fats that go right into that membrane because they're high in omega-6, which is good. Omega-6 makes up most of the membrane, but rancid 6 goes in and takes over. And now you create more inflammation. So change your oil. Step one, change the fats you're eating. Get good omega-6 in whole foods, not seeds, grass-fed meat, et cetera.

1:10:03Dr. Daniel Pompa:Get rid of anything in packaged food that says sesame oil soybean oil corn oil vegetable oil canola oil get rid of all that because that'll help your membranes right away the other that's our number two regenerate cell membranes our number one is you have to remove the sources in your life we already talked about controlling what's coming into the bucket our number three is you have to restore cell energy look again there's a lot here restoring cell energy is your diet right i talk about fasting strategies i talk about mitochondrial support we talked about red lights and all these things i there's so many things you can do but you have to restore that cell energy r4 is reduce the inflammation of the cell a lot of my dietary strategies they're there and then r5 is re-establish something called methylation.

1:10:56Dr. Daniel Pompa:The more toxic you get, the more methylation goes down. It's not a genetic problem. It's more of a stress and toxic problem. So we reestablish that and that starts to get the cell doing what it does. But anyway, so it's a long answer and I know it's scientific and I know everyone wants the answer of just sit into a sauna, but it's not that simple.

1:11:16Shawn Stevenson:Yeah. Thank you for sharing that and to give us an overview of it. And of course, people can get more access to this information and to your training, just the education that you're sharing out there. Can you share where people can get more information on that program, but also where they can follow you and just, you know, get more into your world on social media?

1:11:36Dr. Daniel Pompa:Yeah, and I'm not holding back because I'm holding back for any other reason. It's just, it's not as simple as taking Corella or Cilantro. People think that's detox. It's not, or what I call poopers. You know, people go i'm doing a liver cleanse i'm doing it's it's not like that it it is a cellular issue and and look the only reason i have this information know this information is i believe in my heart of hearts god showed it to me for such a time as this and if you go to pompaprogram.com i did a training on that you can watch the train there's no charge just watch that and you'll get even more information so um and then my instagram is just dr pompa so there you go amazing this has been fantastic i've

1:12:17Shawn Stevenson:had a great time. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and your story. And we've covered a lot of ground. I mean, I started off in the mouth and then, you know, diet, we hit that. Yeah. Yeah. A lot. You know, this is, it's a, it's an interesting time, you know, to be alive. And I feel that everybody listening and of course yourself, we're all here at this time because we are qualified. We're here to help to usher in something better. And sometimes it takes contrast. It takes learning what not to do so that we can move towards those things that are more health affirming.

1:12:53Dr. Daniel Pompa:Start with the things you can control. Yeah. Yeah.

1:12:56Shawn Stevenson:That part. Yeah. So again, thank you so much for coming to hang out with us. This has been awesome.

1:13:00Dr. Daniel Pompa:It's great, man. Thanks for having me.

1:13:02Shawn Stevenson:The one and only Dr. Pompa. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode today. I hope that you got a lot of value out of this and I hope that you learned something new and interesting when it comes to the oral microbiome. And again, this practice of tongue scraping, as unusual as it might sound, heavily validated by science, but also it's been done for thousands of years. Certain practices, including Ayurvedic medicine, has included traditions and rituals and habits that have to do with scraping El Tongo. All right, so keep that in mind. Maybe look up, hop over to Amazon or go to your favorite store, grab yourself a tongue scraper.

1:13:46Shawn Stevenson:If you do, you want to avoid the plastic stuff and stuff that rust. If you can, get your hands on a medical grade stainless steel tongue scraper if you're going to do it. And also be gentle to yourself. All right, this is not coming out the gate trying to scrape your whole face off. You know, it's just like gently do the tongue scraping, you know, Make it a habit and see if you enjoy it. See if you notice better oral health. See if you notice that people aren't shying away when you're in close proximity, all right? So take care of that amazing tongue. But also, and we covered a lot of ground again, being more mindful of our toxin exposure, being more mindful of including resistance training and training for a long lifespan, right?

1:14:36Shawn Stevenson:Being intentional about that. It's incredibly powerful. We know the science now, but it's all about putting it into action. Action Jackson, all right? I appreciate you so much again for tuning into this episode today. Share it out with somebody that you care about. Take a screenshot, share it on social media. Tag me, tag Dr. Pompa. He's out there doing big things. He's heavy out there on social media and he would love to see the shares as well. so again thank you for tuning in we've got some epic master classes and world-class guests coming your way very very soon so make sure to stay tuned take care have an amazing day and i'll talk with you soon