Stop Getting Sick: The Immune System Hygiene Protocol | Carly Kremer

24:41Socrates spoke about propolis. It said that Aristotle coined the term propolis means defender of the city. So it's like defending your body. So, you know, people call propolis the OG antibiotic. It's really what humans were using to stay healthy, to treat things, to recover quickly, long before big pharma came into play. So we have a very long history. Bee products are very well tolerated. Propolis, again, it's coming from trees and bee enzymes. It's sourced the way that we source it. It's so clean. It's so well integrated. And people can really change the way they feel. Like I just, you know, we get letters, emails, reviews every single day.

25:20We have such a big community. I mean, I think about where the company was when we first met versus where it is now. And I'm beyond grateful. but it's just been amazing to see different communities, different people all over the U.S. and how these products are affecting them. And they're affecting them in the same way that they affected me, the same way that they changed my life. You know, we're seeing people really healing and feeling great and doing things they didn't think they could.

25:47Shawn Stevenson:Did you mean to say beyond like you did? I did. It's so ingrained. Subliminal, it's in you, you know what I mean? You know, I was just sharing that, I was just speaking at an event, Jim Quick's Limitless Live, and to see your products there, and matter of fact, I'm seeing them all over the place, by the way, but to see there was specifically stress support that the speakers were just going over and knocking down before they went on stage. And that's another component of illness as well, is the stress component. And so under times of stress, that's when our body tends to just kind of have this overburden of stress inputs.

26:31Shawn Stevenson:And also we know that stress, cortisol, all of these things can trigger inflammation as well. And so again, being proactive at helping your body to properly manage and modulate itself when faced with stress. And so there's a liposomal to that as well, right? Yep. So we have a liposomal stress support, which is honey, propolis and ashwagandha. And there's also L-theanine in there. So it's an amazing formula to calm the system down. I take that, you know, usually when I finish work, it's how I kind of wind down in the evening. And we wanted to, the whole idea behind beekeepers is we want to create a clean pharmacy.

27:12People are going to the pharmacy, the drugstore, they're buying these products that are full of everything from refined sugar to steroids to food dyes. And so we want to give people tools that they can turn to and trust. And so stress is such an issue and it's effect, you know, it creates so much inflammation in the body. It absolutely affects our immune system. It affects our sleep. Physically, it affects us. You know, everyone on TikTok is talking about cortisol phase. And so we wanted to create something that people could feel good about taking, you know, on a daily basis or as needed to help calm their system down.

27:46So that's been a really amazing product. And then Jim also really loves our brain health. So that one, you know, Lauren Bostic from Skinny, she calls that one liquid Adderall. That one is so great for focused memory concentration. And so same thing there, we wanted to create something that helps you with focused memory concentration, but also is good for your brain. So we have Royal Jelly in there. We have Cognizant, which is a really potent form of acetylcholine. we have ginkgo biloba in there so that formula is something that it will help you you know cut through the fog focus memory concentration but it also will help to reduce inflammation in the brain it will help to support support brain health as you age reduce your likelihood of neurodegenerative conditions so that's kind of the idea behind all of our products how can we use these bee products that have been used for thousands of years to create healing and help people thrive to help us make it in this chaotic modern world, help our bodies to live longer and feel better and do the things we want to do.

28:47Shawn Stevenson:Yes. Yes. I'm going to do it with my wife. Is this right? Is that right? She does it so much better. You do it better. All right. So I got to ask you about this. Can you say more about the cortisol face? What's up with that? So when you're, when your system, when you have heightened cortisol, it creates a lot of swelling. And so, you know, it creates this really puffy face, puffy eyes, it can create a lot of swelling in your body too, in your abdomen. And so having something that helps your body using adaptogens, you know, I love immunomodulators. I love adaptogens. I love these natural things that help our bodies do what they're meant to do.

29:27Cause a lot of modern life, a lot of the way we're living today gets in the way of our body doing what it's meant to do. So these things that help to kind of become shields for our body and let our bodies heal in the way that they should. So our stress support liposomal, it's made of adaptogens, which are natural tools that help your body respond to stressors. And so that will help you to respond to stressors. So your body's not flooding your system with so much cortisol. It's not creating the swelling. It's not, you know, having this inflammatory effect on your organs. It's not chipping away at your immune system.

29:58So it's just another way to create a natural, safe, healthy defense system.

30:03Shawn Stevenson:Amazing. So when I'm thinking about our bodies mounting a response to stress inputs and all of the new stressors that we're exposed to, it has me thinking that for all of us, we need to find those things that are consistent and mandatory from the nutrition side, but also be proactive in the other nourishing things that help to build up our stress resilience and the inputs that we might be lacking. And I I want to ask you more about, you know, your lifestyle, because for you to be as healthy as you are for this long, there are other things that you're doing in your life. And I want to ask you about the nature input, for example.

30:45Shawn Stevenson:You know, is that something that you prioritize? Majorly. We actually just did an amazing gardening project yesterday. I have a garden already, but we worked with an incredible specialist. I'm going to be interviewing him on my sub stack to share what we did. His name's Malcolm. but we created this incredible pollinator garden and my daughter was a part of it and she was getting her hands dirty. And so that's so powerful. And when I think about immune system hygiene, I mean, obviously I'm using my products, but there's other things I'm doing. I'm really crazy about my water sources. I really only drink reverse osmosis water.

31:19I have it installed in my house. There's also countertop items people can buy. I really like Aqua True. I just bought that for my mom. I bought it off Amazon. So clean water is really important. Properly washing produce, pesticides is a real problem. So I spend a lot of time thinking about that. I, you know, I regularly check my vitamin D levels. And then in addition to taking propolis for inflammation, I really like taking high quality omegas. And so those are kind of the basis. And then of course, nature and family and spirituality, those are all components of a well-rounded, healthy lifestyle.

31:56And it's like, you know, I think about myself years ago, before my family, before I started this company. And I kind of slowly got one thing at a time. And now I'm kind of realizing how they all fit together. They all play a role and they don't necessarily come all at once, but if you have the goal and the vision of bringing them together, you will. And they all just play such an important role in our health and wellness. Yeah.

32:21Shawn Stevenson:Stacking conditions. We got to do that now. And also the joy factor is very important as well. So important. You know, one of the things that we talked about the last time I saw you, that's just been on my mind. And today you share with me, like, I have this awesome access now is singing and karaoke. That's one of the things that you love to do. So much joy. It's like therapy. So I'm obsessed with karaoke. My husband's obsessed with karaoke. We just opened a karaoke bar on Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood called Mic Drop Karaoke. It is pure joy. It's so much fun. I cannot wait to get you guys out there.

32:56So we're going to have to do a karaoke night when your wife's back in town for sure. And yeah, joy, using your voice, getting out of your comfort zone, getting out of your head. All of that is so important. And like all of us today, you know, I'm, I'm super busy. I'm a mom. I'm running a company. I'm using social media. There are so many things that keep us in our head that keep us in this place of judgment. So when you can just shed all that and just experience joy. And by the way, I have a terrible voice and I get up on the main stage. There's main stage and there's private rooms. So private rooms, if you're a little more shy, you can start there.

33:30But I get up on the main stage now and I just go for it. And my voice is not good, but my energy is there. And so people get into it and it's just, it's so fun and so liberating.

33:41Shawn Stevenson:Oh, I love this. I love this. Well, you mentioned a couple of times the P word. You mentioned pesticides a couple of times. And if we are looking at one of the most valuable assets to life here on planet Earth, to humanity's survival, a large debt of gratitude needs to go to the bees. And right now we're facing an ever increasing complexity when it comes to bee populations. and this pesticide exposure that is just so rampant and so integrated into our culture. And when you think about this again, insecticides and pesticides, they're targeting very small organisms like those of bee populations.

34:29Shawn Stevenson:And a lot of people don't realize the impact that it's having on our bees. So can you talk about that? This is so important. I'm so happy you're bringing this up. So I've been working in pesticide research for over a decade now. For me, it really started with working with the bees. I'm a beekeeper first. It was all about creating regenerative practices, doing this in a way that's healthy for the bees and healthy for the environment. And I've been very focused on how pesticides, toxins, these pollutants are affecting our bees because bees pollinate one third of our food supply. If we lose the bees, our entire ecosystem is flipped on its head.

35:04And then I became a mom. And it was then that I started to think, oh my gosh, I know exactly what these different chemicals are doing to our bees. And it's terrifying. What are they doing to us? And I started going really deep there. And, you know, through Beekeepers Naturals, we do a lot of advocacy work. And so I have access to the top toxicologists, the top public health officials, top researchers, top doctors in the country, you know, internationally, really. And so So I've really made it. And I also think, and you live this as well, when you have a platform, you need to use it for good. And so with Beekeepers Naturals, as we've built this platform, you know, it's equal parts helping people to live and feel good using our products and helping to have a real voice and create change in this fight against pesticides.

35:54And I want to thank you because your voice has been so powerful in this fight and your community has been so strong and we've been able to create real difference. so you know some of the things that have happened because we have all come together and spoken about pesticides in the current state of affairs the liability shield was struck down from the farm bill they were proposing in the farm bill that these pesticide companies have total shield against liability so what in other words if if you got cancer god forbid from pesticide exposure you cannot sue that pesticide company they say sorry you can't do anything and so enough enough voices, enough community posted on social media, shared these articles.

36:37We got together and did a rally, you know, you name it. We were out there using our voices, emailing reps, and they struck that down. We've created a lot more transparency in California. We now have, you can sign up at Spray Days to get notifications when there's fumigation sprays happening in your area. And if you live in LA, highly recommend that you do that. So we've seen progress and there's so much more that needs to happen. And there's big things happening right now. And I know that it feels really intimidating to people because it's like, you know, how can I do something against this big organization?

37:10But your voice matters in such a profound way. And those other examples I shared just, just, you know, seal the deal there. And so it's really important for people to stay informed and it's really important for people to speak out. So some of the things that are happening right now, just to give people a lowdown and we are using our voices and we are using beekeepers naturals and we are fighting for a change here. So this isn't, you know, to be doom and gloom. This is stuff we can actually have a role in. So there's a big problem with fumigants right now. I just did a big post on my sub stack and I shared it on Instagram as well.

37:43What's happening with fumigants. So Driscoll's berries, which I'm sure we've all seen at our grocery stores, huge company. They're using fumigants. So we all know that strawberries are part of the dirty dozen. You want to eat those. If you're, if you're eating strawberries, you do want to buy organic. But what we, the problem is, even if you're buying organic berries, even if you have the cleanest lifestyle, if you're living in LA or one of these many counties across the country where these farms exist, you are inhaling these carcinogenic fumigants. And what we're actually seeing is that people that live in some proximity to these farms, 30 % increase in childhood cancer.

38:20So this has to stop. This is not acceptable. And, you know, we're speaking out about it. I, you know, anyone who's interested, please check out my sub stack, or you can, I did a reel on Instagram if you want to share it or just make your own, talk about it yourself. But these things are happening in our communities and we need to use our voices here.

38:39Shawn Stevenson:Thank you for sharing. This is beyond important. You know, so much of the suffering that we have in our society is self-inflicted. And also it's the conditions that we're allowing as well. And we end up pointing fingers to all these different nefarious things or just even, you know, it's idiopathic. It just happened out of nowhere. And what we're allowing is a very toxic culture. Yes. And we're trying and we're doing our best to adapt in it. But so much of this simply doesn't have to happen. And there are better ways to go about this stuff science-backed, safe ways to do these things. But sometimes it's initially more expensive because the system is built on this bottom line and continuing to cut costs and things like that.

39:29Shawn Stevenson:This is one of the reasons why the legislation around glyphosate has remained so sketchy, is that so much of our food system is now apparently dependent on glyphosate. Yeah, but let me tell you, as somebody who has apiaries, which are bee farms all over the world, and when I started beekeeping, I was told a lot of things about the insecticide, the, you know, the antibiotics we need to give the bees, the mites, the different pests, and I just said no. And my bees are thriving. When you take pesticides out of the system, they're thriving. And the plants and the farms that are around my bees, business is booming because the bees are the world's most efficient pollinators.

40:13So I look, things take time. Rolling back, some of these things can take time. Sure, maybe we can't do everything all at once, but I don't buy that our system needs this. I think also, you know, how much the public would save in healthcare, you know, what's happening to fertility. Like this is a human rights violation, in my opinion, and I'm very passionate about this, but there's a big problem right now with the EPA, the Environmental protection agency. It's run by Lee Zeldin. Most of the people in power there are former Bayer lobbyists. So previously they were working for pesticide companies.

40:46So right now we have a situation and we live in a democracy, so we can change this, but people have to know about it. We're currently living in a situation where these big pesticide companies are kind of calling the shots. Even the agencies that are meant to protect our health and our environment, they don't have the right incentives. So we need to really be speaking out about these things. And again, I'm seeing it every single day. I'm seeing incredible people speaking out and you don't have to give up your job and, you know, leave work and go protest. You can do something little. You can write an email to your local rep.

41:18You can send your friends, you know, an article. You can write an article. You can post on your Instagram. You know, these, our voices are heard and they make a difference. Little things like when I share these, when I share these, these stories when I, cause I'm constantly writing, I've become obsessed with Substack, but when I'm, when I'm writing about these things, I always tag the companies that are either doing something wrong or the incredible agencies that are suing companies for their wrongdoing, just so people can either donate, be a part of it, make a choice with their dollars. I'm not going to buy Driscoll berries at all until changes are made and if they are made.

41:54Um, but you know, we, we need to, but we need to really be using our voices and we all have so much impact here and we can change the state of affairs. Amazing.

42:03Shawn Stevenson:Your sub stack, how can people get access to that? Carly Kramer, it's called Clean Thoughts, a little play on dirty thoughts. And on my sub stack, you know, it's, it's like kind of my place to just flow. And so I'm talking about everything I'm passionate about from breaking down my immune hygiene routine to, you know, clean travel tips to going really deep on a lot of this pesticide stuff and what people can do. And again, there's so much people can do with their voices. And then there's a lot we can do to protect ourselves in our own homes. One thing I tell people, you know, the obvious thing is try to buy organic.

42:36It's expensive. It is not accessible for everyone. But if you look at the dirty dozen, choose organic with those ones. If you can, you can shop local as well. Oftentimes local farmers or small scale farmers, same with many small scale beekeepers I work with, they just don't, they're doing total organic practices, but they can't pay for the certification. So to the extent you can go to a farmer's market or talk to a local producer. Usually you can create something there. And then properly cleaning your produce. This is a really important thing because fruits and vegetables are so important as we both know.

43:07And right now they're full of PFAs. They are coated in pesticides. And so we need to be really taking care of them when we're cleaning them. And so I always use filtered water to clean my produce always. And I use baking soda. Baking soda is a really cost-effective way to take down the pesticide quantity on your fruits and vegetables. And so I dump a little baking soda in a bowl filled with filtered water. I let them soak. I kind of agitate a bit. Then I rinse it with some more filtered water. And it's a little thing that you can do to reduce your overall toxic burden.

43:39Shawn Stevenson:Love it. Love it. Very practical. I love the tip as well about utilizing farmers markets for the cost. That was a game changer for me. You know, being a college student in Ferguson, Missouri, and the, you know, basically sometimes times it was like electric bill, Whole Foods, you know, like, and come to find out there was a farmer's market that was five minutes from my house the whole time. I just wasn't attuned to it. And being able to not, first of all, save money, but also to meet the farmers, to get closer to the practices involved in bringing my food to me and my family. I made it a family experience as well.

44:18Shawn Stevenson:And did I mention the money that I saved, by the way, you know? And so these are some of the things, regardless of where you are, we have, you can use AI for something, you know, something helpful and ethical, but asking farmer's markets near me, you know, and just finding out going to your farmer's markets. And not only are you going to be able to save money, but you're going to get closer to your food and probably it's going to unlock more passion around it as well. Completely. And it's so great to show kids. I bring my daughter to the farmer's market. She sees me having conversations with people about organic practices, about, you know, the amount of farmers that are doing things in a super ethical, beautiful way, but just can't afford that certification.

44:58So talking to them is so important. And then, you know, picking your produce, connecting with your food, that's such an important part of everything. And another thing people can use AI for, not to be too annoying here, but use AI to write an email, share your thoughts, copy and paste that email, send it to your local representative. If you don't know who your local representative is, look it up and just say how you care about what's happening with pesticides and you want to see more regulation because our voices make a difference. They really matter.

45:28Shawn Stevenson:Come on. I love this. You know, thinking about, you mentioned the whole Driscoll's, you know, berries phenomenon. And like you said, it's just oftentimes awareness of things. And so thinking about different products, thinking about different options when it comes to, you know, where we're getting things, there's a huge conversation or awareness about different types of honey from the pasteurized honey bear on store shelves, all the way to the most expensive, exotic Manuka honeys and everything in between. And when I'm telling people about honey and that the beekeepers superfood honey is the best thing ever, it's not just honey.

46:14Shawn Stevenson:It was well, as well, We've got the propolis there. We've got some pollen there, but just the quality of honey itself. And it's so much more value, which I want you to talk about for what you're getting, but it's happened. Even my videographer mentioned this earlier when talking about the superfood honey. And a lot of people will be like, well, what about Manuka honey? Isn't that the very best honey possible? Let's talk about that because I've known about Manuka honey for over 20 years. And for me, again, just getting those kind of superficial messages, just like, oh, this $100 honey and this little thing is like, this is going to activate superpowers.

46:56Okay. I love that you brought this up because this is really important to me. So Beekeepers Natural is my company. We are built on efficacy, transparency, and authenticity. So no universe where I'm going to sell a product that I don't take and I don't believe in. now that being said we can make a heck of a lot of money selling manuka we could easily do that I mean we have apiaries all over the world I have access to any honey product or bee product I want and I refuse to do it and I actually a few of my investors have been like manuka manuka is so popular I'm hearing about manuka and I won't sell manuka honey because I think manuka honey is just marketing.

47:37So there was actually a study done in 2004 at Warsaw University and it compared Manuka honey to a bunch of different honey varietals and it found that the darker the honey the higher antioxidants and Manuka did not have the highest potency or antioxidant count at all. The highest antioxidant count in all the honeys tested was buckwheat honey. So that is the honey, that is the cough syrups. Now, Manuka honey just has so much marketing around it. And it's really a myth. It's a story. The big story around Manuka, it's something called MGO. So they advertise MGO, which has antibacterial effects. The thing is, all honey has naturally occurring peroxide.

48:23And there have been studies done comparing the MGO from Manuka to the naturally occurring peroxide in regular honey, any regular honey, for internal use, eating it just as effective, just as effective. There's no reason to buy Manuka honey for its antioxidant, for the quote unquote antioxidants or antiviral or antibacterial effects because regular honey that's probably half the price has the same antibacterial effects, in many cases has more antioxidants, is healthier. The only area where Manuka honey outperforms regular honey is for topical use. So for topical use, it's great. Manuka honey isn't going to hurt you.

49:04It's going to hurt your wallet, but it's not going to hurt you. It's just other honeys are actually stronger and half the price. And then here's the other thing I really don't like about Manuka. It's coming from the Manuka plant that's native to New Zealand. New Zealand's very small. Right now, New Zealand is supplying an international Manuka market. So a lot of the Manuka honey you buy, it's cut with other things. Sometimes it's really bad things like agave and corn syrup. Sometimes it's just a cheaper honey, but I don't really want to see my customers, myself, my family, I don't want us paying for the price of helicoptering into New Zealand to gather those things.

49:42And then the story, I don't think that's ethical. So you won't see Beekeepers Naturals doing Manuka products anytime soon. And I just think for people to know, save your money. By the way, there are no randomized controlled trials that show that Manuka honey does anything for your immune system. So a lot of the promise behind Manuka honey is marketing and storytelling. You know, clinically, again, the only area that it's shown to outperform is for topical use. So it's great as a facial. And then if you look at phenolic compounds propolis 10x is manuka propolis which is half the price we work very hard at beekeepers naturals to keep the price down on our propolis spray and you know our goal is to you know obviously we're a company we have to stay in business but one of our huge goals is to get propolis into everyone who needs its hands which i believe is everyone and so we work very hard to keep the price down propolis 10x is manuka it's less than half the price so you just really don't need to waste your money there.

50:43Manuka is a ton of marketing with very little research to back it up. Yeah.

50:48Shawn Stevenson:Yeah. And by the way, you, you put your money and your products where your mouth is also, you know, with the recent wildfires, for example, you were making these products available for free for people and just, again, helping to support detoxification, the immune system and all that good stuff. So, yeah, that was really important because, you know, especially with first responders or people that were exposed during those events. It's so much inflammation. It's so carcinogenic to inhale smoke and all those toxins at that level. And, you know, supplying people with propolis throat spray and the nasal spray, it was really, you know, we had a really beautiful response from the community.

51:27So we work really hard to be with our community. And we're very grateful that they're with us. And we're seeing it again in the pesticide fight and in supporting the ways that we keep bees at beekeepers naturals. It wasn't easy to build a regenerative supply chain the way we have. And we've only been able to do that and to do the amount of third party testing and, you know, build to the EU standards, all these crazy, crazy things that we do with our company. We're only able to do that because we have amazing champions like you, like your community who make it possible, who, who care about this stuff and, you know, create a situation where you can build a company that has a positive impact.

52:07Yeah.

52:08Shawn Stevenson:I want to circle back really quickly to the Manuka honey because some of the lore around it is also, it's like a certain time of year that it's like the bees are able to make the honey and all the things. So is it just a completely black or white issue when it comes to getting Manuka honey? No. So there are people doing it the right way. Not all Manuka honey is cut with these other things. from agave to other honeys. But a lot of it is a lot of it is. And you just think about how little can be produced and how big the global supply chain is. And most people selling Manuka honey have to cut it with other things.

52:50Not everyone, though. Some people are doing it right. And again, Manuka honey isn't bad. It's not going to hurt you. All honey has antioxidant, antiviral properties. It's just that what we're sold, the story we're sold about Manuka honey, the MGO, that is not any better than any other honey. So again, if you're using Manuka topically, it is better. But if you're using it internally, if you're using it for your immune system, for inflammation, for antioxidants, you can probably save some money there.

53:21Shawn Stevenson:What does the world come to where we're treating honey like cocaine? And it's getting cut with this and that. Like, this is bonkers. I know. Well, this is, this is what happens though. Like this is what happens with pesticides, with deforestation. When we're taking too much from our environment and we're cutting too many corners, you know, the world is continuing to populate as it should. And we need to support the environment to build with us versus continuing to pull from it and take from it and abuse it. Yeah. So the best thing that people can do right now, again, just to stay up to date with what you're doing and the programs and the advocacy as well, because this is a humanity issue.

54:08Shawn Stevenson:This is a world issue. This is a sustainability issue that we can have a huge influence over for ourselves right now, but also for future generations. We've got to change the way that we're doing things. So I appreciate you so much for that. And just all the goodness that you bring to the world. It's so awesome to see like how things have progressed and rightfully so. There's just something special about you and what you've created. And so if you could, again, can you share where people can connect with you, beekeepers and also your sub stack? Yeah. So beekeepers naturals, our Instagram is beekeepers underscore naturals.

54:46We're on TikTok at beekeepers naturals. And you can find me, it's Carly.Kramer at Instagram on TikTok, Carly Kramer. And then my sub stack is Clean Thoughts by Carly Kramer. So that's where you can find us. And, you know, I just, again, I want to thank you so much for having me. I always have the best conversations with you. It's just such a joy to sit down with you. And it's just like catching up with a friend is the best. And really thank your audience as well for standing with us, standing with my company, supporting our ethical practices and supporting us in our fight against big pesticide and everything we're trying to do to make changes with the environment and changes for our community.

55:26Shawn Stevenson:Amazing. I appreciate you so much. I can't wait to do karaoke coming up here soon. And again, for 20 % off, go to beekeepersnaturals.com forward slash model. But Beekeepers is now also available in Target stores, CVS. Walmart, Whole Foods, Amazon. Walgreens all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. And rightfully so again. So I appreciate you so much. Thanks for coming to hang out with us. Thank you. The one and only Carly Kremer, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode today. I hope that you got a lot of value out of this. Adding this to your superhero utility belt. This is the key.

56:03Shawn Stevenson:We've got to transform the way that we're looking at the treatment of symptoms, but also understanding an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. All right, so really leaning into, as Carly talked about, immune system hygiene. What are we doing on a regular basis to ensure that our immune system is healthy, is intelligent, and making appropriate responses to the things that we're exposed to? We live in a very complicated, stressful, even toxic environment. But, and this is a big old but, we are incredibly resilient. We have the ability to adapt. Now, my advocation is that we shouldn't have to, but we're not living in a paradigm of shoulds.

57:00Shawn Stevenson:We are living in a paradigm where we need to do what we can to stack conditions in our favor to protect our families and our communities to the best of our abilities while advocating for big change so that our environment is one that is health affirming instead of health detracting. And this is why Carly is so special. And from the moment that we connected many years ago, I knew that she was truly about that life. And this was much bigger than simply leaning towards things that we can do from a nutrition side, but really looking at how can we change our culture? How can we change our food culture and our environmental exposure so that, again, we can stack conditions in our favor to be as healthy as we possibly can?

57:48Shawn Stevenson:And so, again, if you haven't done so already, you can replace so many products in the conventional medicine cabinet with science-backed products from the hive. now one of their most popular and it's the number one honey-based cough syrup in the united states number one powerful powerful we've got those you know the quote conventional brands are copying what carly and beekeepers are doing number one honey-based cough syrup backed by science Their honey-based and propolis-infused cough syrup is absolutely amazing, great to have on hand, especially if you got kids. The propolis immune spray, the sinus spray, as you heard, also looking at and hearing those stories, those testimonies.

58:41Shawn Stevenson:I didn't know what she was going to say when I asked her about the snoring. But just to hear that it has that potential as well to reduce the frequency of snoring. snoring can create a lot of problems in some otherwise healthy relationships all right and this might be a very viable and also science backed again we had america's sleep doctor dr bruce on a recent episodes which i encourage you to check out that episode next by the way talking about how again working with patients for decades being able to address the sinuses The nose is the hose and reducing the frequency of snoring. It's another viable tool there.

59:24Shawn Stevenson:So again, I can go on and on and on. It's beekeepersnaturals.com for 20 % off site-wide. That's B-E-E-K-E-E-P-E-R-S naturals.com for model, 20 % off. And also connect with Carly. She really is about their life. She sends me texts sometimes with like, she's written this new sub stack. That's just so passionate and detailed and looking at this advocacy for really creating sustainability when it comes to our food system for addressing this pesticide issue and how we can really make change. So again, truly, truly enjoy this conversation. I hope that you did as well. If you did, you could share this out with somebody that you care about and keep this conversation going.

1:00:13Shawn Stevenson:we've got some epic masterclasses and world leading powerful experts headed your way very very soon so make sure to stay tuned take care have an amazing day and i'll talk with you soon