Why Chronic Disease Is Rooted in Inflammation & the Ancient Science That Can Help You Heal | Dr. Shivani Gupta

25:23We would use it for our specific meals and then we'd settle down the fire and we'd settle it down for night as well. And that's our intermittent fast. We're meant to hold a 12 or 14 hour fast. Once you settle that campfire out for dinner, you're not gonna use it again just for a little munch. You want to keep that settled. And so this wisdom is really illuminating for us the power of honoring that fire and then knowing that that fire actually applies to everything else as well. That's your mental fires, your ability to really think and produce for your day. That's also your energy and your vitality.

25:57And so we talk about weak fire. Weak digestive fire means you're not able to digest your nutrition, not able to get the benefits of your food. That's why we're also vitamin and mineral deficient right now. The fire is lacking. Or some people have an overburning fire and they're hangry and hungry all the time. And that needs to be moderated a little bit. So it's really about this honoring and understanding that that fire is the center of all things. And if you have that, that is your vitality and energy. Yeah.

26:25Shawn Stevenson:And you point out also with the fire being weak, this doesn't just mean I'm not digesting my food properly or might experience bloating or mineral deficiencies, nutrient deficiencies, but also you state that it means that your food is literally becoming poison instead of fuel. If we look into this inflammation equation, that's a big part of it. Weak digestive fire. And I want to ask you about another concept I believe is called AMA. Yes. Toxic accumulation. Talk about that. For sure. So when we are living our lives, we are consuming a lot of things, not just food. We're consuming emotions of others.

27:07Our mental fires are usually going 24-7, especially in the modern day world, consuming social media and the news and everything else. We're kind of on all the time. I don't know about you, but in my own sleep, a lot of times I'm dreaming about work and my business. And so because we're consuming so much, we actually need beautiful, restorative sleep to clear everything out. But as a society, we're not honoring sleep as the most important recovery tool for regeneration, healing, everything else. On the circadian clock, we teach that 10 to 2 is the most important time to sleep. And most of us are not giving ourselves that healing sleep.

27:44And 10 to 2 is when we clear the entire lymphatic system. We clear out the immune cells. We clear out ama or this toxin residue that forms. So ama is this understanding that if we eat well, sleep well, live our lives with joy, really have boundaries around what all we consume, then the body knows with its digestive fire how to process that. And the end result is this thing called ojas or true vitality. But what happens instead? Most of the time we are eating on the go, eating while driving, eating while running around, eating unconsciously. Maybe we sit down to eat at a table and we've got our phones on and we're consuming something, not even paying attention to that food coming in.

28:29So there's no connection between our mind and our stomach. We have no idea when in. I don't know about you, but sometimes I'll finish a meal and I'm still hungry. I want something else because I'm unsatisfied from what I ate. And so that awareness of what are we eating? What are we putting in our bodies, having a guard in our mind against content that's not good for us. We teach in Ayurveda that when you're pregnant, every single thing you watch and consume will go to the child. And so in the same way, how are we allowing ourselves to watch just anything our algorithm feeds us? Sometimes I'll see a clip and I'll say, oh my gosh, that's horrifying.

29:05And it creates this huge fight or flight response inside of me. And that's my cue. I am not watching this anymore. This is bad for me. And so we need to have those guardrails because if there's so much that we're trying to consume, it's almost like you're dumping everything onto a digestive fire, assuming it can process it and it cannot. And so what happens? It becomes putrid. It becomes fermented. It's like becoming a garbage dump inside of you. And that's when we create something called ama. It's this toxin poisonous residue. And the body says, well, I don't know how to digest this. I don't know how to get rid of this.

29:42She's not going to sweat it out. She's not going to necessarily hydrate enough to flush this out. So I guess I just have to park it somewhere. And look at what's happening here in America, at least in the West. We're becoming more and more obese. The body is parking it wherever it can. And we don't have a culture here in the West, at least, around detoxification. In India, in Ayurveda, in a lot of the Eastern cultures, there's a cultural understanding of daily, monthly, seasonal, and annual detoxification. So when I go to India to the Ayurveda centers, they do something called panchakarma. Panchakarma is like this annual detox that is like the most profound oil change you will ever have in your life.

30:26Sometimes it's a little intense because it's got colonics and enemas and these massages, but it also has yoga and pranayama and deep breathing and all the things to reset the nervous system in the body. And so instead of asking everyone to go to India and do that where it's pretty intense, I instead teach it as daily self-care rituals that help us gently get rid of that ama or toxin residue. And so one simple way to do that is a copper tongue scraper. Every morning you can take a copper tongue scraper and you gently scrape the tongue seven to 14 times. and that simple habit will massage all the organs of the body.

31:04Just like in reflexology, we teach that all of our organs are reflected on the bottom of our feet. So for example, when you're pregnant, you don't get reflexology because they might push the wrong thing and put you into early labor. And so just like all those organs are reflected there, they are reflected on our tongue. And by gently scraping the tongue, we're gently massaging all those organs and getting rid of Ama. And so we teach daily habits like this, beautiful sleep, movement, good eating. but also things like copper tongue scraper that'll help us reset and support the body in gentle detoxification.

31:36Shawn Stevenson:This is so good. I just did the copper tongue scraping today this morning before I came in here. So I'm feeling really good about it now. But also it's a, it's a hack to your vagus nerve potentially as well. You know, there's so much connection there with what's going on in our mouth with the rest of our bodies. So this is so good. And also this relationship with this, you know again thousands of years pointing to this kind of metabolic goo this buildup is really in alignment with our modern term of endotoxemia which is so common it's absurd it's just overlooked and our body not efficiently processing our food uh not efficiently clearing metabolic waste and not to mention all the toxin buildup just from the environment that we live in and you're addressing all these things, we have to be intentional and proactive today.

32:27Shawn Stevenson:This is not a joke. This is not a practice. It's all happening right now. And so these tools and these insights are incredibly valuable. And so pointing back to Ayurveda, there's some specific, I mean, now I hesitate to call them spices because of my education from you now, but in particular, of the five spices. And one of them, turmeric in particular, is where your PhD was focused on, you know, the science around turmeric, which truly you are the world leading expert in this subject matter and something that I've been very interested in, engaged with for like 20 years. And so to be able to learn from you and to think about it differently has been super helpful.

33:15Shawn Stevenson:So let's talk about the value with these five spices. But of course, I'd love to start with turmeric. Sure. You know, I think of the spices as super spices and super herbs, because in the West, we talk a lot about superfoods. We're all running to the health food store and buying salmon and blueberries and spinach and goji berries, matcha, like anything we can find. And each superfood has its benefits. A lot of times they are powerful at being antioxidants, immune supports. I've always loved playing with them and trying them. and when I was doing my master's program and we started talking about each of these spices I was shocked because in my own grandmother's kitchen whenever I went to India when I got sick she would just open up the spice cabinet she said I'm just going to heat up some cumin seeds for you and some water drink this tea and it was like an elixir it was magical and it would heal whatever was going on whether it was stomach issues or a headache she had all these recipes that she had created or that had been passed down to her through generations.

34:16And so when I started learning the scientific benefits of these super spices from ancient Ayurveda, I realized, gosh, we are sitting on a treasure chest of gold in India. And we are just not sharing this with the world in the way that the world needs to hear it. And so that's been my mission for 20 years is whenever I went to Ayurveda school in India, the professors would take you out back into the garden and they'd say, just so you know, they'll see, is an adaptogen. It helps people calm down. It's a beautiful tonic. These are cumin seeds. When anyone has gut digestive issues, add more cumin seeds to the food.

34:54They'll feel better. Here's cinnamon, blood sugar levels. That piqued my interest. I've got a family of diabetics. We should be using that cinnamon more. But we forget that this simple plant can give us all those profound benefits. Then we love things like fennel. Let's say after a meal, you have indigestion or gas or bloating. Fennel seeds in water will calm and soothe that down. So it's simple, easy things like that that we can use. And when the professor got to ginger, I thought, gosh, I've had digestive issues my whole life because I take antibiotics and my gut health. You're telling me ginger tea once or twice a day could have been healing my gut this entire time?

35:32I didn't know that. Finally, when the professor got to turmeric, I was like, this is insane. You are telling me turmeric can do all of this? I should have been high dosing turmeric since I was a child because I needed it this entire time. So what interested me about turmeric the most is it is anti-inflammatory and it's considered one of the most powerful natural anti-inflammatories that we can use for the body. It's also a powerful antioxidant. But what's interesting is instead of just being an antioxidant where we go and take vitamin C, vitamin E, all these different solutions and those support us for that one day.

36:11Turmeric actually activates the NRF2 pathway and gives us our own antioxidant factory. So our own body is going to keep producing those antioxidants that we need, whether it's glutathione or catalase or all the others. And that really excited me. I was like, I need a factory in my body that will constantly help me reverse my aging, feel young, feel vibrant, feel healthy, but also battle against a lot of the chronic inflammatory diseases we're talking about. But then I learned that turmeric is antiviral, antibacterial, and antifungal. That to me was profound because I was a kid who was always sick and left at home.

36:51And so when we talk about antiviral, antibacterial, I think of turmeric as this ultimate janitor. It goes into our bodies and cleans house. Everything that doesn't belong there could be malignant cells, could be senescent cells, these zombie cells that run around and damage everything, but it leaves everything in place. So you mentioned endotoxemia, leaky gut. Our body needs support when it comes to keeping a healthy gut barrier, a healthy brain barrier as well. So turmeric goes in there and supports our endothelial cells. It closes the tight junctures. It keeps the good bacteria in place. That to me was incredible.

37:31Like I need solutions like that, that heal my gut, heal my brain, reduce neuroinflammation. And so turmeric's also got a very powerful role when we talk about neurodegenerative diseases. I saw my family struggle with Parkinson's, with Alzheimer's, and I thought, how are we going to solve for this one? How can it be that the end stage of life is this difficult? But we know through the scientific research, turmeric impacts tau tangles, beta amyloid plaques, neuroinflammation. it also creates neurogenesis, giving us new brain cells and mitogenesis, new mitochondria. And that to me is incredible. So you want more energy.

38:10You want a brain and a gut that works. You want to fight off all the colds and all the sicknesses. Turmeric is your plant to help you get there.

38:18Shawn Stevenson:And the crazy thing is, and this is just something we're going to keep pointing back to, modern science is affirming what's been known for centuries. And actually not too far from here, ucla there's some researchers that have recently revealed uh but you know again with turmeric it's oftentimes isolating just looking at curcumin you know one of the bioactives but there's so much more in it in the whole thing itself but they found that curcumin has these again neurodegenerative protection qualities and helping to reduce inflammation but in particular they found that there was these cognitive benefits improving memory uh improving reaction time just making the brain work better.

38:58Shawn Stevenson:But what you just shared with us is it isn't just bringing in some temporary antioxidants. It's helping to activate and to support and to ramp up the antioxidant systems in our body. So that equation of inflammation that you were talking about before, accelerating the aging process, this is one of those things, again, helping to slow things down, really functioning at the level of like nutrigenomics. Correct. Right. And so changing the way that our genes are being expressed, it's so powerful. Talk about turmeric just a little bit more for us. For sure. So when it comes to turmeric, most people don't realize that out of the entire turmeric plant, only 3 % of it is the curcuminoids.

39:44And those three curcuminoids are the most effective part at reducing inflammation. But we need to get them in the right proportion. We need to get them at the right potency for them to really deliver that result. And so we have seen that now there's over 17 ,000 scientific studies that talk about the benefits of turmeric. Some of the ones that interest me the most are the ones where we do clinical trials head-to-head against NSAIDs. We do an NSAID trial. We do double-blind placebo-controlled trials all the time on turmeric in human studies and compare NSAIDs to turmeric. And what they have seen is turmeric is as effective at reducing that joint pain, but without the side effects.

40:23And then the British Medical Journal, BMJ, did a study on 158 patients comparing PPIs, which we take all the time for gut issues, and comparing that to turmeric. And they proved in that double blind trial that turmeric was as effective, but without the side effects. And so what we're seeing is study after study shows that when we're talking about inflammation in the body, we could use highly potent curcumin instead of just using the drug that we're choosing. Or what I do is I've talked to doctors for a decade about adjunct solutions. Let's use them together. A lot of people come up to me and they say, you're the turmeric girl.

41:02I juice my turmeric every day, or I'm using it on my food. And so the biggest question I ask is how should I take my turmeric? Is this enough? And so what I like to share is in ancient Ayurveda, we didn't use fresh turmeric as much. We did take it and dry it into the spice. India is actually the largest consumer of turmeric in the world because we use it in our breakfast, lunch, dinner. It goes into everything. But if you are going to eat turmeric, make sure you're using it with black pepper or a healthy fat. These are the two things that help it absorb in the body so much better. We know black pepper increases that absorption by 2000%.

41:38We know the healthy fat can help it absorb and help it cross the blood brain barrier. And so when I meet with people, I say sprinkling it on your chicken once a day, half teaspoon, is not going to be enough to get that significant therapeutic dose that we want to have. We want a dose that's going to significantly reduce that inflammation and help us get where we're trying to go. When I was 14, I actually worked in the lab in Houston, Texas at MD Anderson Cancer Center, where the scientists discovered that black pepper increases that absorption by 2000%. And so turmeric has been kind of swirling around in my world for over three decades now.

42:18And it's so interesting to talk about it now because there is so much scientific literature. And when I did my PhD dissertation, I actually talked about how powerful curcumin can be when it comes to our joint health as we're aging, when it comes to our cardiovascular health, with its neuroprotective effects for our brain. We want to keep this brain working, focused, sharp for as long as possible. Why wouldn't we bring in a simple plant that can do the heavy lifting for us and help us stay well? And then for everyone who travels a lot or feels like they're getting sick constantly, tumor can go in there and really build this resilience in the immune system so we're not struggling with that, so we don't feel so fragile or likely to get sick.

43:01And so those registered clinical trials of turmeric, there's meta-analysis studies that I've seen that looked at over 5 ,000 patients and said this is one of the most powerful and significant natural compounds when it comes to its anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects.

43:16Shawn Stevenson:That's incredible. So incredible. So why, again, curcumin is remarkable for what curcumin does. Why would we want to look towards more of the compounds in there, more of the maybe concentrations of turmeric, not just this one isolated compound, but the whole thing? You know, it's interesting. When I was doing my PhD, I saw studies that showed that non-curcuminoid turmeric also has an anti-inflammatory effect. So I'm confident that in the next couple decades, we will find more and more compounds within the turmeric that benefits us. So that is the argument for incorporating it into our food. Bring it into your food, bring it into that lunch and dinner, always adding the black pepper or the healthy fat.

44:01We know food is medicine, and so fitting it into our lives as that nutrient density, as that support to the body is so important. Now, my research did lead me to studying using those curcuminoids in a powerful way because coming from my family history, I really wanted a solution that would land the plane and get me the result I needed. because I am literally surrounded by a family of diabetics who struggle so hard with obesity, chronic metabolic disease, and those after effects of diabetes. And so for that crew who is chronically inflamed and struggling, I do reach into the supplement world. When I was studying, everyone would come up to me and say, whose tumor should I take?

44:42And so I started doing the research. I started studying all the labels. And it's actually really hard in the supplement world to make sense of whose supplements to trust. And there was a study then that said over 75 % of the supplements on the big box retailer shelves are full of rice, grass. They're not even putting the main ingredients in that we need. And that shocked me because I had already struggled with my own health and gut health. I thought, how can it be that if I go to the store and buy vitamin D, it might not be the 5 ,000 IUs of vitamin D that I need. And so everyone encouraged me.

45:17they said, if you are the tumor girl, you should just make your own. Like we need one that actually works. We need someone who we trust to make one. And so that's what led me 10 years ago to creating my own formulas, because I wanted to create a formula that was so potent that when you go to your orthopedic surgeon, your rheumatologist, your functional medicine, your chiropractic, and they say you have joint pain or anything like that, you, they would also say to you, you can take tumor for that. And that's been my dream is what if every doctor in America, when we walked into their office and they say, you have somethingitis, you've got this inflammation going on.

45:50What if every doctor just said to us, you could also take tumor for that? Because they are the experts. And my whole life, when I have gone to the doctor and asked, is there a food I can use for that? Is there something else? Is there a natural alternative? I was always told no. And so that's my whole life dream is by the time I leave this planet, every doctor says turmeric can also help you.

46:11Shawn Stevenson:Things are changing. Things are changing. And you're one of the really powerful voices in this. So I appreciate it so much. And speaking of fusionary formulas, can you talk a little bit about that and where people can get access? For sure. So I created fusionary formulas a decade ago, and it's a fusion, a fusion of the East and the West. Because in the East, we have this ancient wisdom. But in this modern time, we have such powerful science proving all that ancient wisdom to be true. And so I created it to reach the highest potency we can while matching and mimicking mother nature's proportions.

46:48Because mother nature knows best, we have to honor her wisdom. And so this formulation I created has helped tens of thousands of people. People call me all the time and they say, I was taking turmeric, but I wasn't feeling anything. And then I took your turmeric and now I feel it. Like this thing is strong, I absolutely feel the difference. And that was my dream. So now it's in thousands of doctors' offices who are using it on their patients, and we're collecting that data as well. And so eventually, I cannot wait to see all the published literature we can do on what we've done for so many different people for their health struggles.

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47:30Shawn Stevenson:Amazing. So FusionaryFormulas.com and use the code ModelHealth. All together is one word, model health. Yes. Awesome. I appreciate that. Thank you. And I think you might've brought me some stuff. There's like a bag out there, but I hit you with the gift bag first. So I don't know if you, maybe that was for me or. It was. Absolutely. Absolutely. I brought you the turmeric gold, the inflammation relief. I'm really into teas as natural solutions that can help us sleep better and feel better and unwind at the end of our day. So I brought all of that for you. Amazing. I appreciate it. I love goodies.

48:03Shawn Stevenson:And so, by the way, one of these compounds in turmeric that has recently been identified. And again, we're just learning more and more and more what our ancestors already knew. And this compound is called Artumarone. And this is so fascinating. This was published in the journal Stem Cell Research and Therapy. All right. So they're looking at stem cells as the topic of this entire peer review journal. And the study detailed how neural stem cells proliferate 50 to 80 % faster when exposed to varying levels of artumarone from turmeric. This is incredible. And again, the biopotentiators matter as well.

48:46Shawn Stevenson:So you mentioned the black pepper and the healthy fats. And so, but this is something traditional. and what you're doing is helping us to stack conditions right from our spice cabinet but also using super high quality again you call them super spices concentrates and formulas so that we can get some of these benefits as well i want to ask you about something let's stay upstairs but it's it's more than that because there isn't a separation between our brains and our bodies our mind and our bodies, they're all connected. But you brought up the topic earlier that I don't want to glance over, which is this mental inflammation.

49:26Shawn Stevenson:And so many of us, and it's so important, I hope everybody's hearing me very clearly, that our thoughts can be toxic. Our thoughts can contribute to that inflammation in our bodies. And so this is someplace for us to really focus our attention as well, because we can change our health. And that can be just a thought away, literally. Let's talk about that. It's so true. You know, in the book, I talked about all the different ways we can build a lifestyle to help us win at inflammation, circadian lifestyle, our diet, our gut. And when I got to the end point of that book, I thought, you know, if I don't explain to people this last piece, it might actually negate everything else that we do because I could live my life walking, lifting, yoga, which I do, eating really well and really clean and fighting for it to be organic and fresh and local and all those things.

50:21I honor my gut health every day like it is my first job above all jobs. I bring in the self-care routine and detox the ama and toxins. But if we are filling in the body faster with the stresses and poisons that we've talked about, that ama, then we are removing it. We're never gonna win. And nowadays, what I see is women, at least most of my clients are women, they're struggling because they're like an empty bucket. There's nothing left in the gas tank. They're scraping the bottom of it, trying to take care of every single other person in their lives. I know I'm a culprit of that. I'm a mom, an entrepreneur, a wife, all those things.

50:58And so we're making everyone else happy. All those plates are spinning, but we've got nothing left. And so I wanted to highlight this term of mental inflammation when we're carrying such a huge burden and every single thing that's coming our way is stressing us out as well. And we're not standing guard at the door of our own energy, our mental health, our emotional health, all of those things. And so oftentimes it's one last stressor that is the straw that broke the camel's back. And that's when people usually find an Ayurvedic practitioner, when they've already gone to the doctor and said, I don't know what's wrong.

51:34And it's this chronic, low-grade, persistent inflammation that's percolating. When they've gone to chiropractic, naturopathic, homeopathic, you know, everyone, you usually find Ayurveda as a system of health dead last, and you're already kind of towards death's door. And so part of my mission is just to say, hey, guys, way up front, let's talk about the system of health. It's really a system of understanding ourselves and navigating life differently. If you know you're an air body type, you would understand that you actually need to stand much more at the guard of your door. You need to ground more and protect your energy.

52:11If you're a fiery body type, you actually have a lot more tolerance and give in the system. But you're actually much more likely to max out and burn out. That's your MO. And so understanding that helps you really navigate your day differently and your life differently. and if you're more earthy, more fire, I mean, if you're more earthy, all of a sudden you are that loyal person who takes care of everyone and gives, gives, gives, but forgetting to nourish and take care of self. And so Ayurveda gives us these blueprints and these keys to the treasure chest and says, if you understand yourself better, you're going to eat differently, sleep differently, navigate differently, but also guard your mental and emotional health differently.

52:50And that self knowledge, that self wisdom is so empowering. If you had the wisdom to know how your body type relates in this world, as you walk this world, you would navigate from a completely different space. And that space is so empowering. What I see is we're living in a time where we keep habit stacking, we keep pushing harder, we think of the body as a robot and a machine, and we're demanding diagnostics, A plus on blood work, A plus on functional medicine testing. What does my aura ring say about my sleep? Was it perfect or was it horrible? When instead we could tune into nature more, get into nature more, get in touch with ourselves more and really put blockades in place against the mental inflammation that's trying to influence us instead of us really pausing, grounding, and influencing from within.

53:44Shawn Stevenson:Yeah. We can stack with something very practical, something that we've been doing for thousands of years, which is something you call a circadian walk. Yes. Talk about that. So I find that if we just make time to decompress throughout the day, then we won't struggle as much with this thing called sympathetic dominance. We're talking so much in the current culture about the nervous system, about being in fight or flight or being in rest and digest. But when I see that content online, I'm like, you don't live my life. You don't know that I'm on airplanes at conferences traveling. And when I'm home, I'm navigating a hundred things.

54:24How do you want me to do that? And so I had to find a system to build it into my own daily rhythm. And so a circadian walk in the morning, no iPhone, no podcast, no content, is my way to really decompress, tune in, and ask myself some powerful questions. How are you doing today? What do you need for today to be better? What do you need for this week to be better? And that's really a moment to go inward and do a gut check with myself and see how am I feeling. And sometimes I'll get messages from my body. Your hip hurts and you didn't address this yet. When are we going to do that? Or different things I've forgotten or different messages I need to pause and address.

55:02So to bookend my day with a circadian walk at the beginning and end is one of my most powerful tools I have to give myself space. And then I also built another one called Tea Time is Me Time. Because Ayurveda loves the power of plants and herbs and super spices. And so I have tea time about four times a day. And each time that's my moment to check in and tune inwards. You can't chug a cup of hot tea. That's going to hurt. And so that cup of tea is a moment to sip. We know it's vagus nerve toning to sip a hot beverage. It's that moment to tune inwards. Sometimes I'm in meetings, people are talking and running around, and I'll just take that moment for myself and calm my nervous system down, really relax, enjoy that cup of tea.

55:47But again, ask myself those powerful questions. What do I need for today to be better? And the message oftentimes is you need to hydrate more. You forgot to take your supplements. You haven't even structured today, so you get to eat dinner. Like, let's really remember what's important here. And so that, I think, is the most powerful message of Ayurveda, is you come first. You have to fill your cup before you fill anyone else's, but also honor thyself. And honor thyself in this powerful way so you get to have longevity, so you don't struggle for your last quarter of life, so you get to actually enjoy this life that's happening around you.

56:25And it can be that simple as circadian walks, tea time is me time, some simple super spices and some self-care tools that really help us stay on point and feeling our best.

56:37Shawn Stevenson:Amazing. Tea time is me time. I love that. So, you know, the new term that the youngsters are using, tea, that your body is tea. yeah right actually i heard the song today a brand new song apple sent me the new release this morning and the song is called body is tea from coco jones i believe which is pretty fire but tea time is me time and really helping us to again reframe some of these simple practices and truly like you just mentioned the the practice of just having tea and slowing down like this can be super therapeutic on so many levels. So we're habit stacking or with something that isn't ultra complex and crazy and sometimes even unnecessary.

57:21Shawn Stevenson:These are things our bodies expect us to do. And I appreciate you so much for helping to remind us of the value of these things. And so if you could, can you share where people can pick up a copy of your new book, The Inflammation Code, and also where they can follow you? For sure. So my website is my name, drshavani.com, D-R-S-H-I-V-A-N-I. And there is where the book is and all my masterclasses and everything else that I teach. And then on Instagram, I'm at dr.shavanigupta. And I have the Inflammation Code podcast as well, where I have great, great experts like you on who share their wisdom as well.

57:59Shawn Stevenson:You're so good at it. You're so good. You're such a great interviewer, just a great personality. I really enjoy just listening to you and I appreciate your work and how insightful you are. And also your family, your connection, your sisters here as well. Neha, shout out to Neha. And you know, you're just really remarkable. So this has been very special. I appreciate you so much. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Of course. The one and only Dr. Shivani Gupta, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode today. I hope that you got a lot of value out of this, I am inspired in a whole new way to utilize my spice cabinet, to utilize my super spices, in particular, getting those therapeutic amounts of turmeric.

58:45Shawn Stevenson:There's so many incredible things that that super spice, again, thousands of years of documented history can do for our bodies, for our brains, for our mental health, the list goes on and on and on. So again, And all of this information is incredible, but knowledge is not power. It's potential power. It's the action that we take as a result. So hopefully something inspired you today to take that circadian walk for yourself, you know, to utilize your super spices, whatever the case might be. But definitely check out the work of Dr. Shivani Gupta and follow her on social media and her incredible show as well.

59:30Shawn Stevenson:Definitely check it out because she's just very, very talented, a talented communicator, a talented interviewer as well. And I think that you'll really enjoy it. And we've got some epic masterclasses and world-leading experts coming your way very, very soon. So make sure to stay tuned. Take care, have an amazing day, and I'll talk with you soon.

59:57Thank you.