In short
Investing in your mind for wealth and decision-making in an AI world; “HI before AI” (build human intelligence before using AI), plus daily brain training, attention, memory, relationships, neuro-nutrition, and community.
Guest
Jim Kwik, brain coach. After a traumatic brain injury at age five, he learned compensatory strategies and became known for speed reading, memory enhancement, focus, and brain optimization. He trains celebrities and business leaders and has a mission to build “better, brighter brains” for the AI era.
Key claims
AI can amplify what you bring; “AI slop” can spread opinion-based misinformation. Consistency compounds via daily practice (Limitless Daily: <5 minutes/day). Morning “sleep inertia” makes early inputs highly influential (“mind before media”). Memory is attention; remembering names builds trust and business outcomes. Cognitive reserve grows with learning, activity, and social connection; cognitive offloading can weaken judgment.
Notable examples
A real estate deal lost from calling a client the wrong name twice; “suave” name-memorization steps; cognitive reserve dips after retirement; grandparents staying active; nuns study (“Aging with Grace”); MIT study showing ChatGPT/Google reduces brain activity and recall.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to Jim Kwik
1:15 to 2:08
Get to know Jim Kwik and the impact of his work on cognitive enhancement.
“Also, these podcasts are not just for you.”
The Importance of Mastering Your Mind
2:08 to 4:12
Discover why mental strength is vital for success in the modern world.
“Jim Quick, give us the quick two-minute bio so we can get straight to the money.”
AI Slop and Its Implications
4:12 to 6:05
Understand the risks associated with AI-generated information and its accuracy.
“problem solving, good decision making, you know, just getting those flow states and just having your best brain.”
Introducing the Book 'Limitless Daily'
6:05 to 8:14
Jim discusses his book, emphasizing daily practices for brain enhancement.
“over 30 % of it is searched from Reddit and Google.”
Morning Routines and Attention Management
8:14 to 11:16
Learn how morning decisions impact your daily productivity and focus.
“with limitless, it did extremely well, but people are asking, how do I bring this to life every single day, a little bit each day?”
Techniques for Remembering Names
11:16 to 16:42
Explore effective strategies for improving memory and remembering names.
“And I think the high performers that want greater peace and productivity and purpose, I feel like they stand guard, you know, with their attention.”
The Importance of Memory in Business
16:42 to 18:06
Discover how memory impacts business relationships and the consequences of forgetting names.
“Our relationship, we've known each other forever.”
Memory Can Make You Money
18:06 to 18:32
Understanding memory's role in business can prevent costly mistakes and enhance connections.
“You know, the analogy is like genetics could load the gun for Alzheimer's, but it's your lifestyle and environment that would fire it.”
Cognitive Health and Alzheimer's
18:32 to 20:20
Explore the relationship between cognitive health, Alzheimer's, and active living.
“We had the, the director of the longest study on longevity and happiness at a Harvard, you know, 80, 80 plus years.”
Maintaining Activity in Older Age
20:20 to 22:21
Learn how physical and mental activity can influence brain health in older adults.
“We get courage that way, you know, from family or friends, people that we admire, mentors, you know, we, we also regulate, you know, our nervous system regulates.”
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The Power of Community and Connection
22:21 to 26:38
Understand how social connections and community impact cognitive longevity.
“And usually a big dip of when we see in terms of cognitive performance, because we have students in every country in the world, we have a lot of information, is usually when people retire.”
Navigating Technology's Impact on Memory
26:38 to 28:00
Discuss the challenges of cognitive offloading with the rise of AI and technology.
“you know, your brand, your business, your bank account, it's all comes from decisions of the brain.”
Understanding and Leveraging AI for Problem Solving
28:00 to 29:36
Learn the importance of understanding problems before turning to AI solutions.
“So come up with your own ideas before you go to AI, even if it's two or three minutes.”
Neuro-Nutrition: Foods for Brain Health
29:36 to 30:55
Discover key foods that enhance brain function and cognitive health.
“So what about investing into our stomachs, the things that we eat?”
Building a Brand and the Importance of Distinction
30:55 to 35:31
Understand how to stand out as an author and create a meaningful brand.
“Um, your last book, Limitless did extraordinarily well, and we expect Limitless Daily to do the same thing.”
The Journey from Free Speaking to Paid Engagements
35:31 to 37:35
Learn how to transition from free speaking gigs to earning significant fees.
“And, you know, I think if you want to win the day, you got to win that first, you know, five, 10 minutes of the day.”
Investing with Purpose: The Three Cs
37:35 to 39:49
Explore key factors to consider when making investment decisions.
“I mean, I could read a book and teach a book on sales, you know, just well by doing that, but I stay in my lane without a doubt.”
The Importance of Giving Back and Gratitude
39:49 to 41:44
Understand the significance of philanthropy and gratitude in business.
“And I always feel like that even with my career, you know, as a coach or as a speaker, as an expert, that I just want to be valuable.”
Impact of Tips on Life
42:00 to 43:00
Learn how simple tips can have a lasting effect on personal and family life.
“You're one of those individuals that practices what they post.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:06Dan Fleyshman:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special edition of the Money Mondays podcast. We cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, how to give it away to charity. But today we're going to go deep more about investing into your mind and why it's so important in an AI world. This gentleman has sold tons and tons and tons and tons of copies of his book. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of views
0:31Jim Kwik:We give the money away too
0:33Dan Fleyshman:And you give the money away, we're definitely going to get into that He's got millions of views every single week across social media People listening to him on podcasts They're watching him on stages around the planet He is one of my favorite humans ever to exist and walk on this earth Out of the 8 billion humans that have been here And even the 2 billion people that have passed away He's in my top 10 all time So I'm very excited about this podcast where we're going to dive in and ask him some real straightforward questions and useful tips for you. But I also want to keep this very, very important thing in mind.
1:05Dan Fleyshman:These podcasts are under 40 minutes because the average workout is 45 minutes. The average commute to work is 45 minutes. So this will be between 35 and 39 minutes for your listening pleasure. Also, these podcasts are not just for you. It might be from someone from your past, present, or future. It might be for someone that you're at lunch with two months from now. and like, oh, wait a minute, Dan said this, or wait a minute, the guest said that, and you want to forward it to your friend, that's the butterfly effect. You could literally change your friend's life to help them with their makeup company, their real estate brand, their business that they're working on, the startup idea that they have, something that's stuck in their mind about investing or something they're scared about, renting, leasing, financing, what do they do?
1:46Dan Fleyshman:These topics are very important because we grew up thinking it's rude to talk about money. This podcast has proven that is not true because we have stayed in the top 100 podcasts for over 116 episodes out of our 131. We're in the top 100 podcasts on the planet. And there are 5.4 million podcasts that have existed over the last four years since we started. So I appreciate you guys. We're going to dive right in. Mr. Jim Quick, give us the quick two-minute bio so we can get straight to the money.
2:12Jim Kwik:Congratulations. That's amazing, Dan. I'm a brain coach. I had a traumatic brain injury when I was five, so I didn't start out this way. and learned ways to compensate. I was called the boy with the broken brain. And for the past 35 years, I've been on a mission to build better, brighter brains every day. You know, no brain left behind. I was a very slow learner. So I'm very known for doing teaching speed reading, memory enhancement, focus, brain optimization. I wanted to build human intelligence in an AI world. I think it's so critical now with so many people offloading their thinking to AI. I, you know, I think I am very pro technology and we use it, but yeah, on a mission just to help people get faster, smarter, better.
2:59Dan Fleyshman:You have trained some household name celebrities, politicians, business moguls. So let's say like the cast of Marvel, when they come to you or Professor X, you know, the household name celebrities are in our favorite movies of all time. Why are they coming to you to get their brain? Is it rewired? Is it to focus? Is it to memorize their scripts? Like, why are they coming to Jim Quake?
3:20Jim Kwik:Yeah, I think everything comes from the mind. You really want to master your mind today. Nobody listening to this when we're talking about wealth, it's not your brute strength today, it's your brain strength. It's not your muscle power, it's your mind power. And the faster you can learn, the faster you can earn. Because knowledge today isn't only power, it's profit. And when you could easily remember things, client information, product information, give speeches without notes, do things on video without a teleprompter, people feel your expertise. And especially in a world where with a lot of AI slop, it's important to be, confidently be able to just be able to share your ideas, to be a wealth of knowledge, to build trust.
3:58Jim Kwik:You remember people's names, you know, all the important things in business. But yeah, in Hollywood, helping them speed read scripts, memorize lines, be focused on set, you know, are really critical skills. But I think everybody wants to benefit from better memory, better focus, problem solving, good decision making, you know, just getting those flow states and just having your best brain. And even in wealth, right? Like you look at Warren Buffett or somebody, you know, his superpower is like, it's a cognitive power, it's judgment, right? Or Steve Jobs, it's creativity, you know, melding technology and storytelling and design and typography, you know, but they're all cognitive skills.
4:39Jim Kwik:I've noticed like we do a lot, we do trainings at Facebook, Nike, Google, SpaceX, the US Air Force. I mean, who can't benefit from a better brain? I mean, just think about it. If we lost half of our brain's potential, you know, like how effective would we be? How we will be our -
4:54Dan Fleyshman:Our society would shut down.
4:55Jim Kwik:Right, and so that does everything. But if you could supercharge it, you know, and my concern, especially with AI, it's kind of like everybody has access to this multimillion, like an F1 driver. You have like a multimillion dollar piece of technology, but ultimately it's the driver that's gonna, you know, dictate the performance. And I feel like, you know, in a world of AI, I know we're gonna talk about it. it could scale and it could amplify, but it can only scale and amplify what we bring to it. Like somebody could use it to make a nice social media post and somebody could use it to make the next billion dollar venture, you know?
5:28Jim Kwik:But if somebody is unclear and they're confused, it magnifies that. If somebody is very competent and capable and has character, it'll scale that also as well. So yeah, I think HI before AI. But in sports, reaction time, thinking speed, remembering plays, you know, in business, be able to remember facts and figures and important information. You know, I think it shows that you care and that you're competent.
5:59Dan Fleyshman:There's something that Jim mentioned, which is called AI slop. And I don't want to go past that. What people are not realizing about the AI technology is over 30 % of it is searched from Reddit and Google. What happens is a lot of the things that are on Reddit and Google are not factual. So let's say Jim and I go to the restaurant and a team here at Hubbell Studio, we all go to the restaurant. There's eight of us that go to the restaurant. Beautiful restaurant. At least I think so. But Jim thinks it's actually kind of like, oh, it feels like it's like in the 1930s. That's what he puts on Google.
6:30Dan Fleyshman:I put a review and I go on Yelp. I'm like, this place is so modern and cool. I loved it. Because to me, the 1930s, maybe that's modern feeling to me and I don't really know the difference. Our friend Vince, he goes over there and he's like, man, that was the best steak I've had in the last 40 years. but Carla's like this steak was weird my steak actually had a cockroach underneath it whether there's a cockroach or not we don't know but she said that there was and then our other friend Jennifer she's like oh this place that waiter was so rude I'll never come back I'm telling all my friends the staff here sucks everyone's right everyone I just mentioned all five six of us out of the eight that took the time to go on Yelp and Google and Reddit were right because it's opinion based.
7:15Dan Fleyshman:And so when AI searches the internet and they find the Yelps and they find the Reddits and they find the Googles, those things that they take as fact, the AI takes as fact is actually Jim's opinions, Dan's opinions, and other people's opinions. That may not actually ever get solved because how does AI determine which ones are opinions and which ones are factual? Because technically all of us were right in the scenario and even if we're right or it does determine that what about the fact of the things that we said changes tonality changes the time of the week that could have been different management a year ago now there's new managers or new owners so much changes in the course of a business for that restaurant and is now impacted in the AI world forever because of AI slop Jim quick right next to us is your book yeah tell us about it this is a beautiful purple book.
8:07Dan Fleyshman:If you're watching some video, if you are listening to us on iTunes right now, tell us about the book.
8:12Jim Kwik:Uh, so the book's called limitless daily and, uh, you know, with limitless, it did extremely well, but people are asking, how do I bring this to life every single day, a little bit each day? You know, I didn't want to write another book cause there are a lot of books, right. And most people could read in a few days and put it on their shelf and it becomes, you know, more shelf help, not self help. You know, I wanted to develop a practice for people because anything wealth included, health, relationships, it's all the consistency, right? It's what you do daily that compounds because consistency compounds.
8:42Jim Kwik:And so what I wanted to do is help people to be able to launch their day. And it's a daily book. So you put in, you know, August 17th or whatever, and it gives you the lesson for that day in less than five minutes. And that's the promise. And it's based on science where some dailies pull from Stoicism or Judaism or Christianity or Buddhism. This pulls from science, science of the mind, which is psychology, and science of the brain, which is neuroscience. And it gives them one idea, written in an inspiring way, and one implementation they could do in two minutes, no excuse, and then a new identity statement.
9:14Jim Kwik:And I think, you know, my goal with it is to make it, you know, there's a part, here's a takeaway for a lot of entrepreneurs and investors. The one thing that's equal is our time, right? In 24 hours in a day. Not everybody has the same income. Not everybody has the same network, not everybody has the same education, what have you, but everyone has 24 hours a day. It's not just what you're doing, it's when you're doing it. So when you wake up, here's a pro tip. There's something called sleep inertia. And sleep inertia is where you transition from sleeping state to waking state. And that window could last anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes, depending on the quality of your sleep, what part of your sleep you woke up in and so on.
9:50Jim Kwik:but what happens is the mental input that you put into that window has a disproportionate effect on the rest of your day specifically in there your focus what you're going to focus on how you're going to feel that day and how you frame situations during the day now so it's called attentional priming and so what what happens most people fill that window with with their phone right and and no judgment here but the challenge is you the content on your phone is going to magnify throughout the day in terms of have a high influence on what you're going to focus on that day, uh, which could be comparison, which could be conflict, which could be war, which could be, you know, whatever.
10:32Jim Kwik:Um, it all saw your feeling. I mean, you probably picked up your phone first thing in the morning and you got a social media comment or voicemail or whatever, and it kind of hijacks your mood for hours. And then also how you frame the day. If you're watching court cases,
10:48Jim Kwik:It'll filter and frame your relationships even later that day. It's just like first thing in the morning, nobody would ever grab, have a bunch of donuts and cupcakes and soda first thing, because it would affect your focus, how you feel and how you frame. Same thing with food. It's the quality of the information you let in. Nobody would let in first thing in the morning when you woke up 200 strangers into your bedroom to talk about whatever they want to talk about at the time. but it's kind of like what we're doing. So, you know, part of the book is about mind before media, you know, at least for the first 10, 15 minutes, you know, set your intention for the day rather than interruption, you know, direction before all the distractions in the world.
11:27Jim Kwik:And I think the high performers that want greater peace and productivity and purpose, I feel like they stand guard, you know, with their attention. They're very, very clear in terms of where they're directing their focus.
11:40Dan Fleyshman:So what about investing in relationships? Like when we meet people and we go to an event and we're here at Hubble studio, there's 200 people for elevator night and we meet 14 people.
11:50Jim Kwik:Yeah.
11:50Dan Fleyshman:Those 14 people, we shake their hands and they say, hi, I'm Jim or hi, I'm Don. Yeah. Hi, I'm Brendan. How do we remember their names? Is it important to remember their names? Like walk us through just like a social setting.
12:00Jim Kwik:Yeah. I think it's incredibly important, especially in a world of AI, you know, people. And that's really, you know, to be able to create gatherings and space for people to connect because that's a deep human need. I find that one of the reasons we forget names is because we're not listening. I'll put this up at the basics out there first, meaning that most people are thinking about what they're going to say. They're looking around the room, seeing who else is important. And the art of memory is the art of attention. So I feel like a lot of people need just to be present. Everyone can remember one or two words like someone's name.
12:32Jim Kwik:It's just I think their focus is somewhere else. I would say also people aren't tuned into the motivation of remembering a name. You know, they're forgetting how important it is. you know they say a name is the sweetest sound to a person's ears like how are you going to sell them you know an investment uh you know or or some kind of an idea or wellness or they're take care of their family or friends if if you don't care enough just remember their name right so i just want to remind people even before you meet somebody just presence the intention of like why do you want to remember the name because maybe it's to show them respect maybe it's to get a referral maybe it's make a sale maybe it's to practice these things uh you know i learned on dan's podcast without reasons you won't get the reward you won't get the results people won't you You know, that's the key to memory, right?
13:11Jim Kwik:It's adding emotion to it. So you need to be able to feel it. But I just, I walk people through a really quick exercise. You know, I do this. You've seen me do this on stage where I'll memorize like 50, 60 people's names passing around a microphone. But a shortcut for it, you know, when you're at an event, suave, you know, S is you want to say the name. So you repeat it back. Because you don't want to have a 20 minute conversation with Ted and say goodbye, Ed, right? You want to make sure you heard it, you get to hear it twice. The U is use it. Use it three or four times in the context of the conversation.
13:39Jim Kwik:don't abuse it. The A is, this is great for people who have unusual names. You want to ask about a person's name. How do you spell it? Who are you named after? Where's it from? What does it mean? I think people are very flattered when you take the time, but I'll deepen the recall of the name. The V is visualized. Some people are just better with faces than they are with names. You go to someone and say, I remember your face. I forgot your name. You never go to someone and say the opposite. You never go to someone and say, I remember your name, but I forgot your face. but if people tend to remember what they see then try seeing what you want to remember like FDR would remember names incredibly well and he would imagine the name on the person's forehead you know that was his thing you know you can magnify it by doing little micro movements and pretend you're writing it obviously not on David's head but you know but you would just imagine doing micro movements use some physicality imagine in your favorite color you know that would change it also as well make it more sticky or someone could take someone like David and use a slingshot You know, imagine you're taking a slingshot, poking him, you know, shooting something on his nose and David and Goliath.
14:40Jim Kwik:It's kind of silly, but if it makes you laugh, that's how kids remember names so well. They make fun of names. I'm certainly, my last name really is quick, but my name was made fun of as a kid. But that's how kids, you know, associate things. So a person's name is Mary. Imagine them carrying lambs. Mary had a little lamb, right? And someone's name is Mike. Imagine them singing karaoke in a microphone. And what it does, though, it sounds silly, but that's why it works. but it's to overcome the six second syndrome. Somebody tells you their name, you have six seconds to do something. Otherwise the name is just gone, right?
15:12Jim Kwik:The handshake breaks and it just falls right through the floor. But once you know the person's name, then the pictures disappear. It's just a means to an end. You know, somebody capturing it. So that's the V. And then the E in suave is just ending, ending a conversation using their name, saying goodbye, using their name. Because you can walk into a room of 20 strangers at the next business event and say goodbye to all 20 by name. I mean, who are they all gonna remember? Yeah, so it's like what you know. It's like what you remember, it's who you remember, but also it's who I remember is you. And I think that's a standout skill when you could show people you could care and matter.
15:49Dan Fleyshman:So you're saying by me saying goodbye, Jim, you're more likely to remember me of the other 20 people.
15:55Jim Kwik:And it's a standout skill, because how many people like...
15:58Dan Fleyshman:Yeah, it's rare.
15:59Jim Kwik:Yeah, and what's the message we send to somebody, a potential investor? I was in Miami actually doing a program, memory training, and someone pulled me aside and said, I wish I went through this a couple of months ago. This person is in commercial, is in real estate. He lost a$50 million deal because he called the client the wrong name twice. And he felt so disrespected and felt not important and just deal done.
16:22Dan Fleyshman:Wow.
16:23Jim Kwik:And that's pretty extreme. It's a wake up call, yeah. Yeah, that sticks in people's minds. I'll never forget that. Yeah, it's important. Memory will make you money. And I think, you know, two costly words in business are I forgot. I mean, think about the consequence saying I forgot to go to that meeting. I forgot what I just read and studied. I forgot what I was going to say. I forgot what that client told me. You know, I forgot that person's name.
16:44Dan Fleyshman:What if I forgot to show up here today? You'd remember that forever. Yeah. Our relationship, we've known each other forever. Yeah. You'd always remember that I didn't show up to the podcast today, right?
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16:51Jim Kwik:Yeah. And I feel like people remember, and we are our memories too. Like, not only do we train people, like we have the number one memory program in the world, but online, but not only facts and figures in foreign languages and what have you, it's just like we remember our whole life is our memories. We lost half our, like, you know, I lost my grandmother to Alzheimer's and yeah. And I was seven and it was really, this was very confused. I just had my head injury a couple of years earlier. I was already like really slow and challenged, but that was very confusing seeing her like repeat herself or call me by my father's name.
17:25Jim Kwik:Yeah. And so we, so we funded like with the first book, Alzheimer's research, you know, remembering my grandmother, but, um, you think Alzheimer's curable?
17:35Dan Fleyshman:I feel like it's going to be cured in our, in our lifetimes.
17:38Jim Kwik:I'm extremely optimistic with things like AI, you know, um, you know, the numbers, I'm very hopeful, you know, we, the limitless was endorsed by the number one Alzheimer's, number one Alzheimer's researcher, um, at Harvard, you know, by the the Kleeman Clinic Center for Brain Health, the director over there. And so when I speak at these institutions, you know, it's amazing. The brain is very, it's very resilient, right? Under the right conditions. You know, the analogy is like genetics could load the gun for Alzheimer's, but it's your lifestyle and environment that would fire it. You know, so we have more influence than we think with, you know, optimizing your sleep, good brain diet, stress management is really important.
18:23Jim Kwik:community is huge for that. I mean, that's the number one on our, on our podcast. Uh, we had, uh, we've done just north of 500 episodes. We had the, the director of the longest study on longevity and happiness at a Harvard, you know, 80, 80 plus years. They've been doing this longitudinal study and they found out, yes, diet is important. Yes. Exercise is important. What's more important is connection.
18:45Dan Fleyshman:Yeah.
18:46Jim Kwik:Connection, you know, and think about how much, more important it is in a world of AI with people on screens and kind of disassociated. That's why, you know, your events do so well, right? Because it's an opportunity for people to come together. And we are, it's not just your neurological networks, it's your social networks. We've all heard who you spend time with is who you become, right? We're the average of the five people health-wise and business wealth-wise as the people we spend time with. It's because we are communal creatures. We tend to imitate. We have something called mirror neurons where we're We're always imitating people around us consciously, unconsciously.
19:17Jim Kwik:You know, I usually watch, W-A-T-C-H. We imitate their words. We use the same language as the people we spend most time with. A is actions. We tend to behave like the people we spend time with. Like whether or not someone smokes has more to do with their friends smoking, or whether they exercise, or whether they read, or whether they meditate, or build a business. You're an entrepreneur, or they're super fit, right? The T in watch are thoughts. We tend to think the same way, about whether it's politics or other things, you know, business, entrepreneurship. Like, you know, if you grow up in an entrepreneurial family, you just kind of think like everyone should be an entrepreneur, right?
19:47Jim Kwik:As opposed to not having those, being around people who don't. The C is character. We tend to have the same integrity or moral compass as the people around us. And then the HR habits, you know. But it's also just, it's important when I'm going to talk about community, because we do our events also as well. It's memory driven. Like whether somebody has like confidence, like confidence is remembering, you know, your wins, right? You know, fear can be remembering your failures. You know, wisdom is remembering the lessons. Your expertise is remembering your experience. It's all, it's all comes down to memory, you know, and for social creatures, it's interesting because, you know, with individuals we're talking about, cause we borrow, you know, we have confidence cause we borrow someone's certainty and belief in us sometimes.
20:32Jim Kwik:We get courage that way, you know, from family or friends, people that we admire, mentors, you know, we, we also regulate, you know, our nervous system regulates. When you're around a calm person, you will, you will become more calm, right? We all know that person that, you know, you spend a little time with, you hear their voice and you just kind of sink in. And there's people on the other side of the extreme where they just like, you know, you just cannot relax because you're picking up on them. So yeah, I love events. That's why, especially for entrepreneurs and investors, people that want to build wealth, it's, it's, it's so much of it's driven through community.
21:03Dan Fleyshman:So I'm going to take it down a personal route.
21:05Jim Kwik:Yeah.
21:05Dan Fleyshman:So I think it might help some people that may be able to inspire their parents or grandparents to stay more fit or stay more active. So my grandmother was in her 90s and she would go swimming every single day. And she would take her bicycle, more like a tricycle, to go swimming. But she was actively cooking for us, hosting all the events. Like she was an active, even though she was in her 90s, very active. My grandfather was still teaching Yiddish at Beverly Hills High School for senior citizens into his 90s as well. Wow. So my grandmother hurts her knee and so she can't swim for three weeks and gets Alzheimer's.
21:43Dan Fleyshman:And it was very intense, especially for my mom because she would treat my mom like it wasn't her daughter. You know, she did a different name, not just different name, but like it was very intense. And it's like core memory for me because it impacted my mom. Grandmother passes away quite quickly after getting Alzheimer's. And then my grandfather, who was a healthy character, who's actively teaching at the school, driving himself, riding the bicycle he was like an Arnold Schwarzenegger type figure to us passed away yeah because he lost love his life what are your thoughts about the staying active and fit and what people can do to inspire their parents and grandparents how important is activity to the mind yeah so there's something
22:25Jim Kwik:called the cognitive reserve and cognitive reserve is like kind of like a retirement account and it's so every single time you learn something you know Or like it can be a language, it can be a new business terminology, it could be a musical instrument or anything. You're building your cognitive reserve. And usually a big dip of when we see in terms of cognitive performance, because we have students in every country in the world, we have a lot of information, is usually when people retire. Because often they retire their mind, and they're not using their minds the same way. And your brain is like a muscle.
22:58Jim Kwik:It's an organ, but it acts like a muscle. It's use it or lose it. um you know i i've had similar experiences with family members um you know they break a hip and then they can't move and so the the key though for cognitive reserve and just brain span in general so we hear about lifespan adding years to your life right anti-aging there's you know there's also the health span having healthy years you know for me i focus on brain span which is you know maintaining your independence as you get older and maintaining your focus your memory your your thinking, your wisdom, right? And a lot of it is based on physical activity, mental activity, and social activity.
23:35Jim Kwik:You know, some of the biggest needle movers for that is dance, racket sports, because they're physical, they're mental, and they're social, you know, also as well. You know, they say racket sports, you could add nine years. Wow. You know, that's why you see Dr. Amen also playing table tennis, right? A lot of people doing pickleball because it's reaction time. It's, you know, thinking speed. It's strategy. It's these sprints, right? You know, highly engaged. Dance, you know, putting your mind into your muscle, you know, and it's rhythm. It's music, right, which is the brain. It's usually have a partner also as well, you know, so it has the mental, physical, and social.
24:14Jim Kwik:So, you know, there was a, and then the learning is what really was key, right, with both your grandparents. There was a study done with these nuns, and they found out they were living 80, 90, and above. It was on the cover of Time magazine. It's called Aging with Grace. So half of it was their fellowship, their community, their emotional, the faith, the other half, though, they're mentally active. I mean, they would be reading, they would be having debates and discourse and conversation and writing. And they saying that was a large contributor, adding years to their life and then life to their years also.
24:44Jim Kwik:So, yeah, being active. And that's the challenge with AI that I have. You know, I'm very optimistic. We use AI, you know, to scale our work and everything. but the challenge is something that's new. It's called cognitive offloading. We've always done this. Our minds have always changed since spoken word, since writing was invented, since printing presses, in terms of how I remember. Yeah, the calculator, GPS, all of that. And so for me, it's about technology. Is AI using it as a crutch or are you using it as a coach or a companion? you know so it's not so much artificial intelligence maybe it's it's augmented intelligence it's meant to expand you right like all technologies helps you to be able to to be able to expand and amplify but it just again it's just what you're bringing to it and that that's i think the challenge and also there's something called cognitive surrendering that i talk about where it's just like some people don't even want to think like your brain is only two percent of your body mass but requires like like 20 of the energy it's an energy hog like i've worked with you know, amazing chess players competing and they'll burn like seven, 8 ,000 calories just sitting in a chair because the amount of like, like, uh, of calories that you're building, you know, burning just with your, with your brain.
26:02Um, and so, you know, I think one of the
26:05Jim Kwik:challenges, some people aren't thinking because it takes so much energy, right? Like, and there's this cognitive rigidity, you know, as opposed to cognitive flexibility that we talk about in Limitless Daily, where it's, you're like doing mental parkour, right? You're challenging yourself, You have hobbies. You can see things from different points of view, as opposed to being cognitively rigid, because then you end up with like a blockbuster video. They were, they were very not flexible. They're rigid, right. In terms of they didn't adapt or you have a Kodak that developed, you know, the backbone for digital photography and they shelved it, you know, and they stayed rigid and then where, where are they now?
26:37Jim Kwik:And so, you know, all these brands and you know, your brand, your business, your bank account, it's all comes from decisions of the brain. So I feel like your brain is your number one wealth building asset. And so, you know, without the cognitive offloading, what I would focus on is you build before you borrow. So there was this MIT study where they took groups of people, ABC, and they had to write essays. You know, these students, A, use ChatGPT, B, use Google, and C, didn't use either. And they mapped their, they scanned their brains to see which one's most active. Obviously C was most active because they had to do the heavy lifting and A was hardly ever because it was just copy and paste.
27:12Jim Kwik:Then they tested them on memory of what they remembered from the essay and group A had the least recall. And that's the challenge is because the goal here is like convenience. Like you could take the car to go 10 blocks or you could get your steps. So I want people to be mentally fit. Because what happens in a society where we're just off loading our thinking and that judgment gets weak, then we become a civilization that's easily manipulated by authority, by agendas. We can't sort through misinformation, all the slop that's being created, you know, or critical thinking. And then also from an entrepreneur's end, then we'd be at derivative.
27:49Jim Kwik:Everything we're creating is generic then because it's all the same. Like what makes it stand out? And so I would just really quickly tell people to build their intelligence before they borrow. The B is, so before you go to AI, you brainstorm, right? So come up with your own ideas before you go to AI, even if it's two or three minutes. The U is understand and really understand the problem, right? Einstein said if he had like a, you know, an hour, he would spend most of the time trying to figure out what the problem is. Because I feel like, especially in business, people are optimizing around the wrong question or the wrong problem, right?
28:22Jim Kwik:And then so understanding. And then the I in build is imagination. Like, you know, look at this problem and come up with three, you know, answers to this problem before you go to AI to give it to you. Or ask questions like, what would somebody 10 times smarter than me, how would they answer this question? or what would one of your favorite business mentors, how would they look at it? Or what would a five-year-old look at this problem as? And they might see the elusive obvious. And then the L in build is leverage AI. Then you go to AI for that. And not just to spit on the answer, use it to show your blind spots, right?
28:56Jim Kwik:What could go wrong here? Make an argument, a strong argument against what I'm saying here or distress test a business idea or whatever. That would be really intelligent way of you to leverage AI. And then the end build is decide. Because ultimately AI can process and compute, give you a lot of data. But human beings, we have to decide out of all this information what's important, right? Like what it means and also what to do with that information. Because AI doesn't have that, they don't have the reference for that. And so I'm all about HI before AI, human intelligence before artificial intelligence.
29:35Jim Kwik:Build before you borrow.
29:37Dan Fleyshman:So what about investing into our stomachs, the things that we eat? How important is food, and are there any foods, drinks, snacks, things that we should be doing for our memories and brains?
29:46Jim Kwik:Yeah, in Limitless I wrote about neuro-nutrition. And so your brain is, what you eat matters, especially for your brain matter. Some of my favorite brain foods, and everyone's a little bit individual, some people are allergic to certain things and everything, but some of my favorite, avocados, blueberries, I call them brain berries, very neuroprotective. Broccoli, if your diet allows. The surforafane in broccoli is really good. Olive oil, good for the brain. Eggs, the choline in eggs, very good for cognitive health. Green leafy vegetables, wild salmon or sardines, like you get your omega-3s, your DHAs.
30:23Jim Kwik:Turmeric, actin green is curcumin, which is anti-inflammatory. Walnuts, high in vitamin E, very neuroprotective. dark chocolate yeah not milk chocolate but dark chocolate generally what's good for your mood is good for your mind you know and also on the other side staying away from the highly processed foods high inflammation you know it's not the not the best for the for the brain the glucose spikes high sugar foods you know with your insulin resistance could wreak havoc on your on your mind so when
30:53Dan Fleyshman:people go out there and see there are seemingly infinite books out there in the ecosystem and out in the ether. Um, your last book, Limitless did extraordinarily well, and we expect Limitless Daily to do the same thing. How do you stand out in the book space? How does people gravitate towards you? You're on a roadshow right now going to different cities. Like what do you, what do you do to stand out? Someone out there wants to be an author.
31:17Jim Kwik:So for me, like I'm, I'm very mission driven, right? I think you learn to earn, to return, right you learn to be able to earn to be able to return and so i my mission is to build better brighter brains daily it always has been for 35 years i'm agnostic how it happens through our podcast or youtube we have courses you know we have supplements we have we do we do all this right speaking i'm kind of agnostic how it gets the impact happens you know we're doing stuff with ai um so i feel like we're a movement that happens to have a book with it and i think that's very important today. If you want to build a speaking practice, I've given 22 keynotes for corporations and companies and conferences.
32:00Jim Kwik:And I, I, I had the worst, I guarantee you, there's nobody listening here is more phobic of public speaking than I was, especially with my brain injury and my learning disabilities, you know, like, but life has a sense of humor because all I do is, you know, public speak on this thing called learning. But I would say for one of the building out of brand, I was very clear. It's hard to stop. It's hard to stop somebody who knows where they're going and why
32:21Dan Fleyshman:they're going there.
32:22Jim Kwik:You know, I, for, I feel a moral impetus to help people because shame, I think we're best suited to support the person we once were. I mean, I feel like, you know, the work I do is what I wish I had. You know, instead of the critic that we have inside our mind saying, you're not good enough, you can do this. I think that critic in our minds, the negative, the one that has the negative thoughts. That's if you're listening to this right now, is turn that critic into a coach and a coach, they're honest with you, but they're kind with you and they move you forward. And I feel like changing that voice makes a big difference.
32:53Jim Kwik:But in terms of building the brand, you know, I mean, yes, this book happens to be purple. It stands on the shelf. Purple is also very significant to me because it's meant to be read first thing in the morning during that sleep inertia time where you're attentional priming and getting magnitude results because all entrepreneurs, investors want higher leverage. And so using that time instead of grabbing your phone in the first five, 10, 20 minutes is to read one page of the book. It stands out on the shelf, obviously, for branding. I think it's better to be different than it is to be better. You know, a market leader in an industry will on average own like 74 % of a market in a lot of industries and everyone else is fighting for the other 26%.
33:33Jim Kwik:So we own a good part of, you know, the accelerated learning space. Like we've done nine figures in our online programs and it's just, you know, we have a very strong base in this. But I think we wanted to own, you know, quick learning, KWIK is my last name. We wanted to own that category, you know, the blue ocean idea. So, and the purple also just from a branding standpoint, it stands out not only in shells, but in people's minds because there are not a lot of purple books. Also purple is specifically, you know, when I, when my son and I was three, we watched the sun come up, you know, together in the morning, the sky, I color matched it to this guy, and it's very purple.
34:12Jim Kwik:And purple, if you learn in color psychology, is sovereignty and wisdom. And I want to remind people that, you know, they have agency in this world, you know, as dim as it could get sometimes and as challenging and difficult, and give them a little bit of wisdom. So I actually wrote this book for, you'd appreciate this, for my daughter. You know, when she was in the hospital, I write every morning. I've always have. But when I was in the hospital, when she was born, looking at her, I started writing to her. and like, because I'm an older father, I'm in my fifties. And, you know, I just, if I wasn't there 20 years from now, you know, what you need to hear from me, you know, going through a hard day first thing in the morning.
34:50Jim Kwik:So I wrote about imposter syndrome. I wrote about fear of failure, negative thoughts, distraction, burnout, you know, everything that could kind of hold us back and be limited. And then a friend of mine was going through a stage four cancer. I showed him some notes and he's like, you know, It really uplifted his attitude and his healing and his performance. And so I was like, this could be a great book. Because everyone with Limitless was like, this is an ordinary manual for a brain, but how can they live this daily in just five minutes? And so then I put the science in there and everything to back it up.
35:21Jim Kwik:But it's my best work. It's like you upgrade your phone, your apps, your newest AI. When are we upgrading this technology? So this is just five minutes every morning. And so it's not a book you put on your shelf and just let it sit there. It's a practice. And, you know, I think if you want to win the day, you got to win that first, you know, five, 10 minutes of the day.
35:40Dan Fleyshman:So normally we cover three core topics, how to make money, how to invest money, how to give it away to charity. This episode, we dove deeper into the brain, the mind and those, those things. But I still want to ask one of each question for our traditional audience. On the make money side, if someone wants to go from becoming a free speaker that speaks at free events or they speak at their local church, they speak at local pop-up events. How do they go to actually get the first thousand bucks, five grand, 10 grand? I mean, you charge over$100 ,000 for a speech. How do they go to that process to get paid to be a speaker?
36:09Jim Kwik:I've definitely done my shares of free talks. I think the most important thing is you learn it, you live it, then you earn the right to be able to teach it. And so I think it's very important for a speaker to be able to solve a very specific problem. And for me, I'm dealing with limits of the mind, people feeling slow. and I want them to be faster. And it's very clear in terms of the benefit. I think when you could articulate the problem so well, people automatically think, they assume the solution. And especially a problem that people are facing that's keeping them up late at night, people will pay it.
36:46Jim Kwik:Because it's not the price of the speech, it's the cost of what happens if my team that you're being hired for doesn't fix this distraction or the memory loss or the overwhelm or the burnout that they're dealing with. because I feel like that's the big, that's the big cost. Even with this book, someone could buy the book or not buy the book. If they buy this book, like with your books, that's not going to change your life at all. If someone buys your book or doesn't, but it could change their life big time, huge, right? Or even your, the events, if they don't attend, no big deal to you, right?
37:16Jim Kwik:Your lifestyle doesn't change at all, but it could change their lifestyle completely. And so, you know, and with this, so I would say, solve a very specific problem, be known for being able to be able to solve that problem. And that's my mission. and then, you know, I build my brand around it and hopefully I make it different so it stands out and people always pay for that. Always, because I could speak on a lot of things. I mean, I could read a book and teach a book on sales, you know, just well by doing that, but I stay in my lane without a doubt. On the investing side, real estate, stock market,
37:47Dan Fleyshman:cash flowing businesses, you know so many people, you speak at so many events, so people are bombarding with angel investments and private equity deals, invest in my fund, blah, blah, blah. How do you decide for yourself what you're willing to invest capital into?
38:00Jim Kwik:I've done 20, not a lot, 22 angel investments, and they're usually in things that I understand and things that I can move forward. So I do advisory work also as well, like you do. And so these are things that, I won't mention the brands, but there are things that I understand in this community that I can move forward that is not dependent on me. Obviously, for me to do business with somebody, I need three Cs, I need competence, I need to know leadership is competent because I feel like I'm world-class with what I do. I want to be working with people who are world-class in what they do. C is character, right?
38:35Jim Kwik:Because, and just like even any kind of business, somebody could be incredibly competent but not have integrity and that doesn't work. Or someone would have a lot of character and they're not competent to get the job done. That doesn't work either. That doesn't work. And then the third C is I tend to invest in things. C is not to get metaphysical, but it's consciousness, meaning I can think of a lot of ways of making a dollar. I need the things I'm involved in to also feel like they're making a difference. because that goes with my ethos. And I'm more able to get behind something like that where they don't need me, but they have the three Cs and I can move things forward.
39:06Jim Kwik:That's a sweet spot for me.
39:09Dan Fleyshman:And then on the charity side, why do you think it's important for a brand, a company owner, a business to have some type of charity component for their investors, friends, employees, customers, et cetera, to see them actively involved in some type of charity?
39:22Jim Kwik:Yeah, I would do it. And I would say this, I would do it as performance, performative, like a lot of stuff that we do, we don't announce. If I announce it, it's because I want people to see that they can be part of this movement and make a difference. But everything in nature has two things. Everything in nature has to grow or it dies, and everything has to give back or else it's eliminated in the ecosystem. And I feel like that's why we're here. My mythos is learn to earn, to return. then so I feel like not less performative in terms of posting about it and that's fine also as long as you practice what you post and I feel like business could be a force for good you know without a doubt like at a certain point you know why are we doing what we're doing and so I feel like you know especially all our events just like you know you you raise a ton of money for such a great such great causes you know and part of life is you know the legacy you You know, not how people remember you, but just I think the life we live are the lessons we teach, you know, and I want to be with that of service.
40:24Jim Kwik:And I always feel like that even with my career, you know, as a coach or as a speaker, as an expert, that I just want to be valuable. I want to leave people better and brighter than they were beforehand. And if I can do that at scale with people who are suffering and struggling, you know, because we have, you know, we live in a society that's very, you know, abundant. Like we optimize for convenience. I mean, we have more, you know, luxury now than kings and queens and emperors in time that we could hop on a plane and we have all this access on our phone. We have temperature control and all this stuff.
40:54Jim Kwik:I just, I think one of the things is with gratitude because I think when you give, it makes you, reminds you there's enough and you can be grateful and what you appreciate appreciates. Like if you want greater wealth, like think about all the things you have in your life that money can't buy. Like if you list those things or here's a thought experiment. It's one of the ones in Limitless Daily. waking up and just saying like, you know, what if the only things you had in your life tomorrow were the things you express gratitude for today? You know, like how much like would you feel it and let other people feel, you know, appreciated.
41:27Jim Kwik:And I think that's a stronger base than scarcity, you know, long term, like in terms of what drives us, you know, knowing that there's enough, that you're not doing things out of desperation, like that, how's that sale going? Or that negotiation, if you feel like you're desperate and, you know, in need.
41:43Dan Fleyshman:Where can people find you on social media? Where can they find the book? Tell us everything.
41:47Jim Kwik:At Jim Quick, K-W-I-K-I, just spelled right. And everything's about this book. It's my best work. It's LimitlessDaily.com. We have some amazing special gifts as a thank you. And I want to thank you for your friendship, not only in what you do, but the manner you do it. You're one of those individuals that practices what they post. So it means a lot. And you're an incredibly busy guy. And I appreciate how you show up for me, but also so many other people.
42:16Dan Fleyshman:All right, guys. As you know, this podcast was not just for you, although there's a lot of tips for you. But there's for sure parents, friends, kids, employees, staff, people you haven't even met before that you should be sharing this episode with. Because the things that you teach them about even just remembering someone's name, the things you teach them about the food that they eat, all the little tips and tricks that you heard throughout this last 45 minutes with Jim can literally change the course of their life. Think about the hundreds of people that your child's going to meet over the future.
42:44Dan Fleyshman:Thousands of people, maybe. Think about the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times they eat per year, and all of a sudden they add blueberries, and now it helps them with their brain just a little bit, hundreds and hundreds of times for the next 72 years. It all compounds from little tips and tricks that can trickle down for the rest of your life. I appreciate you guys. Visit us at themoneymondays.com. Check out Jim Quick, Limitless Daily, and we'll see you guys next week here at themoneymondays.com.
From the publisher
What if the most valuable asset in your portfolio isn't in your portfolio at all?
In this episode of The Money Mondays, Dan Fleyshman sits down with brain coach and author Jim Kwik for a conversation about memory, focus and why human intelligence is becoming more valuable — not less — in a world running on AI.
Jim was called "the boy with a broken brain" after a traumatic brain injury at age five. Thirty-five years later he has run trainings for Google, Nike, SpaceX, Facebook and the US Air Force, along with some of the biggest names in Hollywood. He explains why the faster you can learn the faster you can earn, how memory quietly drives sales, referrals and trust, and walks through his SUAVE method for remembering names — including the story of a real estate professional who lost a $50 million deal because he called his client the wrong name twice.
The conversation then goes deep on artificial intelligence. Jim breaks down cognitive offloading, the "AI slop" filling the internet, and the MIT study that found students who leaned on AI to write essays remembered the least of what they produced. He shares his BUILD framework — brainstorm, understand, imagine, leverage, decide — for treating AI as a coach rather than a crutch, and makes the case for HI before AI.
Dan and Jim also cover attentional priming and why the first ten minutes after you wake up shape the rest of your day, the brain foods worth adding to your diet, cognitive reserve and protecting your brain span as you age, the three C's Jim requires before he invests in anything, how to actually get paid to speak, and why giving back is built into every healthy ecosystem.
This episode is about more than productivity. It is about protecting the one asset that every other asset depends on.
