BONUS: How to Publish Your AI-Built App to the App Store

24:51Corey Noles:Let me check my Mac real quick. But it comes with these little dummied out cards that allow me to see what the logo and the app would look like in a different style or color or layout. And it's really cool. So I did that. Do you want me to pause for a minute? You got something you need to talk about? Yeah, yeah. Pause here. So one of the key things that Corey did, which he mentioned, is he said, I would like to make a tool. Now, if you're watching this, you probably want to specifically make an app or specifically an iOS app. So I would share that goal up front in your initial plans so that everything is built around that.

25:35Corey Noles:But I wouldn't just stop at the iOS app. I would say my goal with this project is, you know, if you also wanted to be on the Google Play Store eventually, If you also want it to be a desktop app, if you also want it to be an app. The earlier it plans for that, the better. Give it that whole vision of every surface area that you want it to plan for so that it can plan to do that. But then say, specifically, we're going to start with either the web app, which I'd probably recommend so you can test it easier, or the iOS app. Now, the reason I said tool was because I didn't know what the right approach was yet.

26:14I wasn't sure I wanted a recommendation if you still want that recommendation you can do that if you already know what you want it to do you can so I come back to that part in just a moment I'm trying to see if I've got any of those pictures because I think they're really neat and it kind of illustrates the way this is working more

26:39Corey Noles:but I don't see one off hand oh I do i do it's not a great one it's an example i rejected let's see but you can see what it is here why is it not opening okay let's go back here another point i want to hit and corey you tell me when the right place to do this is is to choose the right release path first we kind of talked about this but i just want to really quickly yeah mention this okay um yeah and let's hold on that because we're gonna we're gonna get to that in a minute and then i'll i'll perfect i'll i'll pass it over uh window

27:25where's it at okay we're gonna do it this way share entire screen okay apologies for the infinity world there this is what it gives me uh i have it generate me five of these and i just say generate me a bunch of these it'll just one after another spit out five different images like this and it'll give you you can tell it i want the hex codes for these colors i don't like this logo for one reason i want to change that it'll give you the logo as you'll see here and like different concepts and ideas and you see the the language it used so you can be like hey tweak that to be more like this and it just it gives me something

28:09Corey Noles:to see what uh what specific language or words do you use to describe this artifact what is this technically is it a mood board i know i call it uh some logo mock-ups and logo and color palette mock-ups is what I call it and it just does this I don't I haven't ever told it like I want it to be like this no this is just kind of what it what it gives me and it's really handy and it gives me like four of these I can sit there and just scan through back and forth and and I can say these all suck chatty or I can say I like number three I want to use that one but with changes and and then it'll it'll pull that one to the front we'll talk through changes on it and once that is lined out Once I have the visual vibe I want, the way I want it to feel and look, we'll take it from there, and then I go back to Codex.

28:59And when I go back to Codex, I go in, and I give it that image, and I tell it to take that plan you suggested. I want to do it this way. I want to do it as an iOS app, but know that at some point we might want to put this on Android. know that we might want to make a mac os app for it at some time too so

29:22Corey Noles:and there's a way that there's ways that you can architect that to make that process easier the flip side is it's way harder because you can't use the iCloud kit and all of that it allows them to just use their phone's id and and automatically and simply connect to apple's database. So that is completely free. Like I'm not out of penny. If I want to do it for Android, I have to go host it somewhere. I have to have a third party database. I have to connect a debit card. I have to do a variety of things where I don't on this end. But you're exactly right. It is extremely complicated to go from one to both.

30:03It's easier if you know up front and build for it. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

30:07Corey Noles:And I don't want to get into the weeds of it because honestly that gets into an area that I'm not as confident in because that's what I use the coding agents to help me with. But there are certain ways that you can structure the application. Sometimes it's called electron app. Another format is Tari. But those are different, basically like structures that you can develop the application in so that it does work for multiple surface areas. But the coding agent can handle that part of it for you. Exactly. You just have to tell it up front, this is the goal. It's going to be a web app. It's going to be desktop.

30:44Corey Noles:It's going to be mobile, Android, and iOS. We're going to start with iOS, but then we'll go from there. So after it did that, by the time I hit enter, it went off for 15 or 20 minutes on my, okay, let's actually, I came back and said, now let's develop a comprehensive engineering plan. not just a plan for the idea, but an engineering plan. I want to know how you plan to build this, what the layout will be, step by step, you have phases or something where you walk through. And when it comes back with that, unless there's anything I disagree with, which honestly is increasingly rare for me to disagree, I'll tell it, hey, go ahead and start work.

31:30And then it comes back, and it went and downloaded all of the developer software for me that it needed. As long as I had if it's logged in in a browser it can use it in Chrome.

31:45Otherwise, if it does the background stuff, you have to log in. Now, while it's working in my Chrome on a tab, I can go use other tabs and do whatever I want. It does not interfere with it, which is beautiful. So even in the same Chrome window, it's over here working in Apple, but I'm reading Twitter.

32:04And so it got everything downloaded. It mocked up a dummy and then asked me to connect my iPhone. Actually, before that, it runs a simulator because that's a big part of this. It pulls a simulator up on your screen, loads it, goes through and tests every button. And I always tell it before it loads it on my phone, there are three things I do. Number one, I tell it to go through visually and test every feature and function, ensure they match our plan and work. I tell it, run a code review. And then I tell it to run a security review. And that takes maybe 30 minutes. But when that's done, I go ahead and connect to the phone like it's already asked me to.

32:48And in a matter of seconds, it's just open on my phone screen. And I pick it up, and it's in my pages as an app. And I can work with it, function with it. So then I sit there and I spend five minutes playing with it with my codex window open and I've got a numbered list. And I'm like, all right, this is a great start. Here's some feedback. Number one, I don't like how the button layout looks. Number two, I want to make sure users expect to be able to click that. Number three, I want to make sure we have some imagery here. The logo looks a little funny. And I just come up with a list of changes.

33:22Every one of them I have. Sometimes it's two or three. Sometimes it's 17. And either way, I just feed them all in one chat. And then at the end, it reloads it onto my phone after it's run. Now, the thing to know is I've been very, very deliberate with my model use because I'm watching other people blow through their quotas right and left, and it bothers me. So I have been a little more cautious with it. For high-value stuff, for planning an app, for planning engineering, for code and security reviews, I use Solon High. Or maybe the higher one if I get some time, depending on how big the project is or how important the risk is.

34:13my driver though is Tara on high that's what I have do most of the actual building and so far it has not failed me like you know everything I've built this month in particular has been using that as my go to model you know and that's hard to argue with are there ways an engineer would do it differently absolutely I'm certain if an engineer looked at my codes they would have complaints however my argument would be that it's out in a day it works it's updatable as the models get better it will be increasingly clean and better um and now i have you know a concept and it's out there and i can see do people care does anyone else want this or

35:02Corey Noles:am i just a nerd yeah i think so there's a couple things there the first one is all right so you You have the plan. You put the plan together. Number two is you need to create a logo asset. Like you see here, this is Corey's apps and the App Store Connect. So you need those logos. So you've got to have those ready to go. Another element that you need is the actual code. So you have to use Codex or ClaudeCode to help you write the code. There's other programs you can use as well, but those two can do most of what you need to do. So that's why we recommend those two because they're just multifaceted.

35:39if you're into cursor factory or whatever you can absolutely use those yeah yeah but uh but

35:45Corey Noles:claude doesn't do images so maybe that's a reason to go with uh track to putty for this just worth worth mentioning that um coded them the first time codex codex coded bitmap images that's and and while they weren't weren't as baller as what i feel like i finally landed on They also could have been worse. I was like, wait, you didn't use the image model? And it's like, no. I was like, oh, my God. It shouldn't be this hard. Give me your guidance, and I'll go use an image model. Or you use an image model. I could have told it, and it would have. Another thing we need here, if you click in on the profile of one of these, if you could, is screenshots of the app.

36:35Corey Noles:So, you know, you made the plan, you made the logo, then you made the code, then you tested the code in a simulator. So, and if you tell Chat2BT to help you with this, it will, and it will be able to do it so long as you have Xcode installed. And now it's time to submit. Yeah. Yeah. So, I have never submitted an app before. So I asked Codex, it's time to, I think I'm comfortable with this. Let's put out a V1 and see what happens. I'd like you to handle that process. Walk me through it. Holler if you need me. You know, it's basically what I told him. And it opens up a browser window. In fact, you know, every time it opens a browser window, it puts it in a tab.

37:22Every time it opens a tab, it creates a tab group.

37:27And so it creates that, logged in here. and it just works in the browser like anything else. And I don't know if you recall the first time we showed off computer use, but it's come a ways. It is in some cases faster than the cursor looks. A lot of times it looks like it's just sitting there, and then you realize, oh, no, it's finished.

37:50Corey Noles:Wow. Yeah, I definitely don't use that as much as I should, unless the coding agent is going off and doing it, and I just am not even aware. It depends on what I'm doing. If I'm working on something and I want to just know things are still happening over here, I'll spin it up and be like, just go. But with this, I felt like it would probably do a better job since I didn't really know what I was doing and it's walked me through it. What you should know here, you're going to see all these screenshots. There's a lot of stuff when you upload an app. You've got information. I'm not going to click on those because they're going to require some account stuff and might show off things I don't want to.

38:25But, like, you've got to go through the type of it. You've got to certify who it's for. You've got to certify whether it's for adults or safe for kids. You have to determine whether you are an EU trader or not by EU law to determine how it goes and where it goes. You have to go through a lot of privacy and safety stuff. It forces it through some test flight processing in here. What is test flight?

38:53Corey Noles:Let's explain test flight. Let's explain test flight. test flight right over here is where you can load this up and send it off to friends send it off to acquaintances or people for a beta test it doesn't go into the app store but it will go directly to the people you want to have it and it has some features that let them send you feedback on it to test an app before it comes out this is absolutely the right approach um and it can set this up and make this run really really easily just takes a few minutes once you don't want your app to go on the app store you can just use test play invite people to to test your app and then they can just run your your app you can just keep it private forever yeah yeah yeah you don't have to put it on the apple store that's the thing is you can uh just keep it here quiet okay so where was I here let's go back over one all right so here we are you're gonna see all these screenshots because you gotta have screenshots when you upload an app you know people want to see what they're downloading ideally you have videos I don't have any videos but every one of these that you're gonna see are images that Codex created it loaded up the simulator it took the screenshots it formatted them to the size apple wanted them and uploaded them to this website without me doing squat uh that's so that's so amazing that's insane isn't it and uh it's done this like see what you'll see here is i just added uh i added a passport function a coffee passport function to bean counters so that you know anytime you try some new coffee somewhere you can go in here and you can add it and it creates a profile page.

40:42If it already exists, it'll just populate it for you. But if it doesn't, you add it in and you can leave reviews, notes for yourself. Like, don't ever buy this again. It was terrible. Or, you know, oh, I really liked this. This is the one with the tiny beans that tasted like hazelnut.

40:56Corey Noles:You know, you could do that if you wanted as well. You can also delete it. But this is all saved in a database. So, like, I don't have access to a giant coffee database so we're going to build one together uh i've populated it with like 63 different coffee brands and their main things so so that the most stuff like if you're starbucks pike peak it's going to auto populate for you uh but the idea being that we'll just over time build out this coffee database that's awesome and we've got achievements we've got yeah first coffee log one coffee you didn't buy. So in order to get the screenshots actually onto the app store like this, what did Codex do that you remember?

41:42Corey Noles:How did it do it, and what did you tell it? I just told it, upload the screenshots, or go get the screenshots Apple needs. Actually, what it said was it came back after the previous task and said, here's what's next. We need this. We need this. We need screenshots. They need to be uploaded to the app store. we need this and it said do you want me to proceed and i said proceed and and and then it's like okay did you give it access to your account like how was it able to get it's logged in in my chrome so it's logged so okay so logged in as you and chrome and did you know i logged in i logged in if your chrome is open and you were logged into a thing codex can come over and use it for Do you need the Chrome extension to do that, or does it do that in the native web browser inside Codex?

42:33Corey Noles:That's a good question. I do have the ChatGPT Chrome extension, but I don't know that it was using it. I mean, that is just browser control, though. That's a standard feature for Codex. Because there's browser control and there's browser... Yeah, but because the headless browser is able to do all that stuff, so you don't even need the browser extension for that. With that, you have to log in, though. It has to be logged in through like a terminal, which is fine. It'll just pop up a window and ask you to do it or send you a message and ask you to go log in. And the same here. If this wasn't logged in, that's what it would do.

43:09But I just go ahead and log in ahead of time because it just lets it work a little easier and faster. And I know what it's doing.

43:19But it writes your descriptions. It writes your updates, like here's what's new in this version. comes up with some keywords, support URL. You can't upload without having a privacy page and terms page. So it decided that the best way to handle that was to go create a GitHub page, which it then went and created and published and brought the link back over here and put it in.

43:45Corey Noles:When you say it created a GitHub page, that's separate from the GitHub account? Yeah. Well, with GitHub, pages are a thing. Like you can have public pages in GitHub as well. Like it's like a webpage, like just a landing page kind of. And it goes on. I guess I meant not the account, but that's different from your repo that has the code in it. Correct. That's different from that. It's the same account. Yeah. Like it's going to the same page and just checking a different option and going from there. Just a way to host it. Yeah. Just a way to host a simple privacy page. Like I don't want to go pay GoDaddy or Bluehost or whoever to host a landing page with a privacy policy that no one's ever going to take the time to read in the first place.

44:30And but it did all of that. It's got. Oh, we're going to skip down there. It keeps track of ratings and reviews. Which it shows I have none yet. It's showing the new version. There are reviews on the other one. it'll optimize your product page it can go through all of this marketing stuff um there's a variety of things and some of this i haven't been through yet to even understand what's there so i need to ask it to look through that and give me some recommendations tonight uh yeah good idea but like that's that's literally it and then when i play with it for a few days i i keep a notes folder in my uh thing or i've got i have on your iphone you have this extra a programmable button up here that you can do whatever you want with.

45:21And it's a short code that opens chat GPT voice mode. And I just say, I hit it and I say, hey, in my next update notes for Project X in Obsidian, add that I want to get rid of this button or I want to make the corners rounder or I want to, whatever the case is. I just don't see that.

45:40Corey Noles:Oh, side note, we never explained Obsidian. It's a marked down document editor. So the ways that AIs talk to each other or share information back and forth is through tokens, but then that's converted to Markdown documents. And so Markdown documents are a good way to just keep really minimal text files. And Obsidian is a really easy-to-use desktop and mobile, I believe, Markdown file editor. And they're lightweight and fast. So while a Microsoft Work or a Google Docs file is going to be like 120 kilobytes, these are going to be like 11. They're really small. They're really lightweight. It's text only, no rich, fancy formatting.

46:22You can have that if you want, but you don't have to. And what it is is it's designed to be – I was turned on to it by Andre Carpathy using it for his second brain.

46:34Corey Noles:And that's essentially what I've done with it is use it the same way. Is anything that I have – because I have several computers that I use daily as well as my mobile phone. and I wanted a way that no matter where I am, all of the context of a project could be shared. Because if I work on a project on my Mac and Codex, all those files live on my Mac. I can remote control that Mac from the ChatGPT app, but what I can't do is go over to my PC and have it pick that up and work from there. So what I did was I sort of created this pivot man in the middle that catches all of the context around everything.

47:13So when I say, hey, I want you to go take a look at this, it knows where to find it. It knows what updates I've made. It knows where the repo is. It knows how every architectural decision was made and how it was designed. And the idea is for it to be able to just provide that context, which is really, really neat.

47:30Corey Noles:And it gives you – That's next level. Like I don't even have it. Like I'm still using my desktop as my home base. So yeah, that's a good way to do it. Amazing. it's a it's it's very fun thing i pretty much you know i i went through a phase where what i did was as i was reading twitter when someone like carpathy said this new thing it's amazing check out what i'm doing i'd go throw it into codex and say make this for me how can i use it man i miss not to get sidetracked on this but i miss his his posts like that now that he's shut he's shut down quiet since joining anthropic i hope he i hope that doesn't last very long anyway i do too i really i really thought he was going to leave this week.

48:10I was so excited because the truth is what he provides to the whole community to me is way greater than what he's going to provide to any one of those companies.

48:18Corey Noles:On the other hand, the guy's got to make money. I mean, I say he has to make money. He's probably got plenty of money. But I also understand the draw of a cool question and a project that you want to be a part of solving. Oh, totally. I don't blame him at all. I probably would have done the same. I get it. I just wish. I missed the Carpathie who dropped like like the auto LLM builder on a random Tuesday. And, uh, and he was doing stuff like that every day. There was, uh, like April, March and April. He just, just dropped and dropped and dropped and dropped stuff. That was, that was great. And, um.

48:56Corey Noles:Okay. I want to touch on a couple of key points because, um, doing this process with Claude, at least the way that I did it was not as, um, uh, as hands off. So. So actually, yeah, it was a little bit more, I had to hold its hand a bit more to do it. And perhaps that's user error. Like I think if I told it like, hey, just go figure it out and gave it access to all the accounts, maybe it would have been able to do it the exact same way. But if you're a little bit more like me and you are a little bit more like, okay, let me go through this step-by-step, then here's a couple of things that we jumped over that I want to run through really quickly.

49:35Corey Noles:So first off, you have to join Apple's developer program. So you use the Apple account that should permanently own the app. So if you have a personal account, maybe you want to separate that from your business account, make a separate Apple account for that. And that's the app that's going to own the account. Now, the paid Apple developer account is required to submit an iOS app. I think we talked about that, but just make sure that's clear. And then you have to accept their agreements. so once you've accepted their agreements then you're going to choose what's called a bundle identifier um and this is something where you can just say hey cloud code tell me what to put here and it will do that for you but it's just like comp.com.company.appname or something like that and then that's going to be used the same throughout so you'll have this thing called an expo project yeah and then there's developer records that you need to keep track of and if you You tell Claude, like, hey, you know, walk me through this step by step.

50:35Corey Noles:It will cover all of those things for you. But it might be, like, it tells you where to put the thing. And then you might see a UI that doesn't tell you the exact steps. Then you take a screenshot of that UI. You send it back to Claude code and you say, okay, what do I put here specifically? And it could be a little bit more of a back and forth for you. But that's the best way to do it. Just have it say, like, I'm going through this process. Tell me what to put here, here, and here. Make sure you understand what you're doing. and do that process that way. You remember the reference to when 5.6 launched, a guy said the difference is Fable is a brilliant thinker, a brilliant mind, and GPT 5.6 Soul is a little more of a Rottweiler?

51:22This is...

51:25Corey Noles:Those are two different things. Those are two different things. They're both wonderful to have involved in your project. I can't stress enough that there's a role for all of it. And that was a really good comparison grant. I appreciate that. And I think there's different ways that people like to work with these tools, right? Like some people are comfortable just like handing it off to Codex and say like, okay, go do this for me. Other people might want to understand what's happening every step of the way. Yeah, let's talk about that. I don't want to get sidetracked with that right now, but that is sick.

51:56I have a YOLO button. Yeah, that's hilarious.

52:01Corey Noles:And then once you get to the App Store Connect, you have to create what's called an App Store Connect record. And then you would create the new app. You would fill in all the fields there. And then you, you know, for me, I've been working on a desktop app. And there's a slightly different process, but I think it's pretty similar, where you have to go through the expo or what's called EAS project. and then you have to confirm that the bundle identifier matches Apple, what the public version is. A lot of these fields like that, that again, when you're on that screen, you talk to Claude and you say like, okay, Claude, what do I put here?

52:42Corey Noles:This is what I'm trying to do. How do I do that? Here's a screenshot of the field. What do I fill in? And you can even say prepare this expo project for an iOS production release through EAS. And if you use EAS, you can actually do a lot of it over the cloud. And there's this thing called signing credentials. And signing credentials makes this all a little bit more complicated. But it's so you basically have to verify, hey, this is my app, I'm putting my name on it, I have a unique signature to my account. Yes. And that process for me was very tricky. And the way that I was able to figure it out is I stored my unique keys for that on my computer and then I could put in my password when Claude prompted me to enter the password for my computer and then it would give Claude permission to use the keys to sign the like basically sign the the app as myself so yeah we're gonna write that up in the article that goes with this so it's a little bit more clear because I think it's hard to follow along when we're just talking about it.

53:51Corey Noles:But I wanted to clarify that there are some middle steps in here that you're going to need to just like the easiest way to do it, I promise y 'all, is like have Claude walk you through it. And any time one of these lives goes out where we're teaching something, there's always an article to follow. We're trying to be consistent about that. And Grant does a good job of it. We might even agentify it. uh but the idea as soon as we have a clean transcript after recording we can get it up you usually have it by the next monday uh yeah at the latest these days i've gotten it pretty pretty quickly out after um but yeah the step is you know you prepare the expo eas project then you let eas prepare the signing credentials then you build and upload the app which you can literally ask EAS to create the production build.

54:50Corey Noles:And we're going to include prompts for all of this in the article. So, you know, if you're watching this after July 30th at 10 a.m. Pacific time, there will be a link at the bottom of this that has all the prompts. And basically, we'll provide prompts where you can ask it to build and upload the app using the safest, sort of safest, supported production EAS workflow. And then you have to wait for Apple, wait for the Apple process to build, which can be like, I don't know, 20 to 30 minutes. What's been your experience with that? Yeah, about that. It's not bad. It's not bad. You know, so much of this, the thing to know is I'm not sitting here staring at it while it works either.

55:36Like, I'll get it started on task and I'll go make a cup of coffee, walk the dog. And when I come back, I'll see it's done or maybe not. And if it is, I'll sit down. I'll see where it is. Get it back going. And then I'll watch an episode of Deadwood, which I just finished this week. Oh, my gosh.

55:55Corey Noles:Such a good show. Boom. Did you watch the movie, too? Yeah, dude. The movie was the perfect ending, I think. Yeah, agreed. I think the show left some things unanswered. Like, it very felt canceled. It felt very canceled. Oh, yeah. Not concluded. It was not time. Yeah. But the movie was good. I enjoyed it. But like I what I'm trying to do with this is spend less time staring at the computer. So the truth is I am crazy productive doing a bunch of things, but I'm actually spending less time staring at it than what I normally do. Like their ability now, like now that we've reached a point where this thing can go and work for minutes, hours.

56:39It's just not you don't have to stare at it as much. so like all the other day i had i went took my son's car to get a new tire on it because he hit a curb and blew a golf ball size knot out the side of his front tire and uh so while i was there i had my my iphone and in code and chat gpt's app you can click the remote feature now and i see both of my computers i can click on my my pc see what it's working on and put two or three conversations to work there. And then I can go over to my Mac, click on it and put two or three conversations to work there. And while I'm reading a book at the tire shop, six agents are building my things.

57:18And I know when I get home, progress will have been made and I can sit down and assess and give feedback. And that I think is what work's going to look like for a good long while now.

57:31Corey Noles:I saw Alex Finn who is a YouTuber he says now that he's basically used to spend all day in front of his computer now he spends only two hours in front of it and he goes hiking and he's just like talking to his app checking in on them as he goes using GPG voice mode that's pretty interesting I'm checking in is what I would say now there are times I'll sit down and it depends on what I've got got going but not really I just I'll check in for It might be five minutes It might be 30 It just depends on what I'm working on And what the stage is But I'm not there for hours when I check back in That's the key I'm not sitting here all day offering prompt After prompt after prompt I'm not prompting at all, I'm just talking to it And the other day Now that you can use As of last Thursday, holy crap Now I can be like I can hit the big microphone button here on my Codex micro keyboard and be like, hey, give me a status update on all the agents that have been running in the last hour.

58:40And it comes back and it's like, well, this first one is working on bean counter and it is doing great. I forgot it says like a British accent or something. And it'll be like, this other one is good to go. If you're ready to ship, I'll tell it to go. and it'll type a message and it'll go. And then I, which is bonkers. It's absolutely an entirely different workflow. And.

59:12Corey Noles:That's so cool. I posted the full flow here. It's missing the downloads that we included in the chat. The chat has been blowing up with me posting links that you guys need. but but uh basically besides all of the downloads that i shared um this is the full flow so you plan the smallest useful app you build the prototype test it yourself key and test it in the simulator um you know actually play with it because i built an app for my partner and uh for their birthday and and uh i was actually playing the app and sometimes i would get distracted from like the other coding projects i was working on because i would be testing the app and like playing with it in the simulator on my desktop, but test it yourself.

59:58Corey Noles:Then fix the core journey. So what that means is the core user journey. So if there's weird issues that makes it hard to actually do the core function with the app, take those out. Then save a working version. We talked about this more in the other stream, but we save everything to GitHub. That's what we use. It's kind of like the industry standard. And that's just like a cloud copy of your code base. And you can have Claude or Codex help you set up GitHub. It's pretty straightforward if you have the agent help you. And we're going to try and do a stream on GitHub with someone from GitHub, hopefully in the middle of next month.

1:00:34Corey Noles:So we can tell everybody all about that. But then you review it for security and privacy. And we're going to share prompts in the article that goes along with this to help with that. Then you create your Apple account using the links that we shared. you're going to create the app record which is basically just like the like where where you see it in app store connect like cory has there um then you're going to configure what's called eas it's like too complicated just have the agent explain that to you build and upload it test it through test flight then you're going to complete the listing and then submit it to the app review and then if everything looks good you can release it and what's nice about using eas or expo, whatever you want to call it, is that the agent will submit it and then it will get a notification back and it will tell you like, oh, it was denied for XYZ reason.

1:01:28Corey Noles:And then you can say, okay, let's fix that. And the agent can actually go back and forth and fix it for you until it's actually approved. So that's why you want to use those tools to do that. Whoa, we don't need Discord and text. What have I done? Mistakes were made, Grant. But I think that pretty much wraps it up. Yeah, I think so too. Looking at it all written out, I think will be helpful. Yeah. And next time, maybe a few weeks down the road, we'll do one where we go through Chrome extensions because I think that's a really useful approach. Grant and I both use those a lot. And we could do a full show on just how to work with Chrome extensions, how to upload them, how to set them up, how to think about them.

1:02:11There's a lot we could do there, I think.

1:02:13Corey Noles:Yeah, there was something that we wanted to touch on earlier. Maybe I'll just very quickly mention it. Sometimes the app is not necessarily like a full mobile app is not what you need. Sometimes you just need a web app, you know, just where you can publish a URL to send people to or a Chrome extension. And what's good about Chrome extensions. I'll be right back. Yeah, you're good. So the Chrome extension is good to test locally. And then you can upload it to the Chrome Web Store, which maybe when we cover that more in depth, we can talk about the process of uploading to the Chrome Web Store. And then if one of those two things doesn't work, then maybe you would want an iPhone app.

1:02:53And then from there, you could also do a Mac app or iOS.

1:02:58Corey Noles:sorry or android or google play it's all about your goals the thing i'll say about android i've been looking into uh like i built these in swift just simply because it's it's apple's language it works beautifully with it uh and uh connected them to icloud kit which is very apple so like taking bean counter to android is going to be kind of a pain there's a lot of stuff that has be done but the truth is to me the bigger pain is the process of uploading to google play store which is you have to do i believe a 14 day test test flight maybe 30 days but with a uh with i believe it's 12 people uh all of them have to be active users and and actively using the app so like it's a little bit more of a a nuisance like i don't know 12 people i was like who the heck do I know?

1:03:52It's hard to get anybody to download something I made. Any of my friends, you know, everybody's busy. They got stuff going on. I ain't got time to ask 12 people to take time out of their schedule. So I haven't done that.

1:04:02Corey Noles:Well, we were saying maybe we should make a group of 12 people who are trying to make Android apps and then a discord group where we all do it together or something. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out in the chat if that interests you. And then we'll put that together when we do the Android session. There's a lot more to unpack here. There's a lot more to learn, Not specifically with this, but there's so many different ways and approaches to doing all of these things. I would also like to add, we'd love to know what you're building. I would love, you know, if you've got something cool you want to share out with the world or something, you've built a little app here and there, tell us about it.

1:04:38We want to know. We want to try it. And we hope you'll do the same with some of the things we build along the way, too, because this is very much a journey, not a goal. and we're learning as we go and hopefully it can help a few of you learn as you go too. By the way, if you haven't yet, please take just a moment to like and subscribe to the channel. It means a lot to us. It really helps us keep doing this. Also, we dropped a cool interview yesterday. Grant?

1:05:05Corey Noles:Yes. Deep Ubi from AWS Startup, the startup program there, Startup Accelerator. Basically, they have a plugin. Startups at AWS. Startups at AWS. So they have a plugin that if you want to deploy something serious and you want to use AWS infrastructure, which pretty much is the industry standard, you know, obviously Google and Microsoft have their own versions, but AWS started the cloud. Like they're like the industry standard, right? they have a plugin that knows to quote them where all the bodies are buried as far as how this stuff works that you can install whether you're using a coding agent in VS Code or you're using it in Cloud Code they didn't mention Codex so I didn't see it there think of it like having a little AWS engineer on your shoulder but if you use Cloud Code for example you can download it and it is not in the plugin store So you need to actually go to their website and get it from there.

1:06:06Corey Noles:For some reason, it's not in Claude's plugin store, and I have no idea why. But anyway, regardless, it's a really great tool. It'll help you set up anything you need to know about deploying something serious to the cloud. And if you're thinking about doing an app, like we've just been talking about for this whole hour, you probably want to also talk to the AWS startup advisor to give you advice and say, like, hey, I'm trying to deploy an app. You know, what should I be thinking about as far as how to architect this so that it's scalable for, you know, however many people eventually join and download it for whatever use case you're using.

1:06:43Exactly. And on that note, everyone, we really appreciate you joining. It's been a fun one. Please shoot us an email or drop us notes, leave comments on videos, whatever the case is. If there's something you want to learn that you don't really understand, If we haven't done a video before, we want to know about it. Let me grab that link.

1:07:03Corey Noles:I'm going to drop it. Yeah. Also, make sure if you're new to this that you check out the neuronacademy.com. That's our new school that we're really excited to show off. We've spent half a year working on it with a team of amazing people to get it to where it is now. And we have big plans for it as we go forward. There's going to be a lot of new content, a lot of new courses coming, some every week moving forward. So it should be really cool. And, you know, kind of the hope there is to be able to get stuff up really quick when it launches. So, like, if there's a new tool we want to do about it, we just record it and are waiting for something to go live on ChatGPT Health right now, for example.

1:07:46So that matters, as does your feedback. And we'd love to know what you want to see, what you want to do. and we'll gladly kind of guide our content plans to make sure we can touch things that are important to our readers and viewers. Any final words, Grant?

1:08:06Corey Noles:The immortal words of my dad.

1:08:16No. That's a great quote from dad. Yeah. No.

1:08:24Corey Noles:No. We've heard that a lot growing up. Thanks again. This has been a lot of fun. We've had a small group today, but I really hope someone found this useful and that you benefit from it. And if you have anything, let us know. Farewell for now, humans. Bye-bye.