Oprah with Hugh Jackman & Kate Hudson & Their Movie You Have to See this Christmas

22:32And then when I was 21 and started getting work, a lot of work. I was very weary about having help and trusting people. And so I called her and I was like, would you ever come help me and assist me? You called the woman who was your nanny. Yeah. And she goes, no. And I was like, please, Kathy, I don't know. I don't know what to do. And she's like, I'll give you, okay, six months. 27 years later, she just retired, went back to Milwaukee. Wow. I, there's a lot of Kathy and Claire. So, yeah, I was raised and nurtured and loved and connected to a very, very Milwaukee accent. I know we have a few Midwesterners in the audience today.

23:13Raise your hands. Tell us how you think Kate did with that accent. Yeah? You think she did okay? Hi, I'm Destiny Kay Chambers. First of all, phenomenal film. Multiple themes that I think many, many people resonate with. a lot of humanity in it. As somebody with a mental health disorder, it connected with me on that level, but especially as somebody who was born and raised in Milwaukee. So I, and I didn't expect that. I went into the film blind. So as somebody born and raised in Milwaukee, it also was really a black person who loved Neil Diamond too. So I was not a black person who loved Neil Diamond, but I definitely had my fair share of genres that were not similar to those that people in my neighborhood listen to but um i would definitely say the accent uh you nailed it i don't have a typical wisconsin accent except for when i say wisconsin because it's all in the nose it's very nasally so i think you did a phenomenal job thank you so much i also used to get jimmy's like the sprinkles and custard we used to get them shipped from wisconsin as a kid because i love jimmy's so and they're better in Wisconsin.

24:19A classic. A classic. So, I hear you. I hear that. Thank you so much. Well, there's somebody else here. Kathy, what did you think of the accent? Stop! No. Yes. I thought she was amazing. Just amazing. I love it. Oh, that's so awesome.

24:46Hello! How is my accent? It was wonderful! Oh, thank you. I loved every word you said. I have to tell you, I loved every word you said. It was, like, special to me. Out of the whole movie. Hi! Kathy Heller, everybody. This is the Kathy Heller. You're here. I know. Yes, yes, yes, you are. You called her to tell her that you wanted her to go to the premiere? Not yet. I was talking with Brad backstage. I was like, I gotta get Kathy and her sister out in December. Oh, okay. To see the movie and to be here. Hi, you look amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Retirement's been good. It looks good. Did you know she was using you for the accent?

25:28You know, I had to kind of figure because we've been together for so long and there were times where she would make fun of certain words that I would say. So she would kind of like, you know, correct me or just say, did you just say car? You know, and it would be, so I figured she had to be thinking of me at George. Okay. Why didn't you say no at the beginning? With her? Yeah. Because I was her nanny for six years, six, seven years, and all of a sudden she was going to be my boss. And I was like, I don't know how this dynamic's going to work. Yeah. So I did say no, and I said no more than once, too.

26:03Yeah, she sure did. I can imagine. I don't take no for any. You used your nanny, and now she's going to be your boss. I would think about that, too. I did. I did. But it seems to have worked out for you, Kathy. It did. It was the best. We had so much fun. So much fun. And every Christmas, all I could think of was, we're doing it right now. And I'm like, where's Kathy? Because Kathy and I at Christmas time, it's like our favorite time. Our favorite. We did. Okay. Did you just see the movie? I did. And? I loved it. I loved it. I loved your connection. You guys were so real together. And I kept thinking, this is like real life and you're creating it.

26:37I mean, in the movie, it was amazing. Yeah. One review says that you two don't just have chemistry. I know y 'all don't read them, but let me tell you what the people are saying. You two don't just have chemistry. You have emotional synergy. Emotional synergy. I would agree. Wasn't it so special? It was. I mean, it felt like it felt. And it was funny. The other day, Kate turned to me and someone was saying something like that. Yeah. And Kate said, and it was easy. It just felt easy from the jump. From the first day we got together. We have to take a break. And if you are having as much fun as I am with Kate and Hugh, share this conversation with your friends and family, whoever needs a pick-me-up.

27:18Be right back.

27:41or go online at statefarm.com. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Thanks for joining me on the Oprah Podcast. I'm with the dynamic duo of Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, who star together in a triumphant love story, Song Song Blue. And I saw on an Instagram post where you had said that if there was one word to describe Kate, it would be congruent. Yes? Yeah. Yeah. Why? Because what she says, what comes from her heart and from her mind everything is in line so as an actor from day one from rehearsals everything when you're opposite her you go i believe absolutely everything she's just it's so true and that's not always the way in life some people can be great at actors and then when you meet them in life that feels like there may be a barrier or their second get kate what she thinks and what she feels comes out of her mouth and it is always wise she's someone who's done a lot of work on herself.

28:39You don't mind me saying that. And her life has been life and there's been a lot of life. Life is life and. Life has done a lot. And she's managed to just process it all with such heart and care for others. So when you work with Kate, you feel safe. Take it in. Receive it. Receive it. Receive it. And you also hold everyone around you. You hold, there's no separation between crew and actor where everyone was hanging out on set And you get no separation between boss. Like, she's just herself. And that is such a beautiful thing in life and on camera. It's a rare thing. Take it in. Thanks, Hugh. Take it, Hugh.

29:17Receive it. Let's look at this clip where we see the spark between Hugh and Kate's characters when they sing together for the first time. Oh, my. Love this clip. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

29:32Tell your mom and girl we can't stay long. We got things we gotta catch up on You know, you know what I'm saying Excuse me! Much too late for anyone to be singing that loud. Ma, this is the man I was telling you about, Mike Sardina. This is lightning. How you doing tonight? Not good. Sing softer. I heard that you screened this with your mom and your pa. Sure did. And what happened? They were very emotional. I never heard... Your mom, Goldie Hawn. Your pa, Kurt Russell. My mom is easily emotional. You know, she's like emotional with everything. But Kurt, it really hit Kurt in a way that I hadn't seen him experience something before.

30:25In the sense that he was audible. Like audible watching the movie with the things that were, oh no. You'd hear him go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know? And then he got very emotional and he's a tough, he's my toughest critic. He really is. And aren't you your toughest critic? I'm my toughest. Where you're usually watching and judging and then you weren't able. The fact that I heard that you were able to like get into the story. I was able to like lose sight of the fact that it was, yes, I was able to actually take in the story and the movie. And like I said, it made me miss movies. I could watch it again.

31:03And like we were saying, very rarely I could watch this movie over and over again. I intend to. And not feel a personal connection to it anymore. I could watch it as an experience, which is very rare. I know. I mean, I said my friend Marlene said, let's watch it again. And I go, Marlene, I can't watch it again tonight. But I will watch it again and again. And I hope you all go. Don't you want to now tell everybody? You want to tell everybody, go see this movie. And go see it on a big screen. and go see it on Christmas Day. Yay. Christmas Day. Christmas Day. Yeah. What do you want to say about the phenomenal supporting cast?

31:46I'm so glad you mentioned it. We were so lucky. Every day we would turn up and there was incredible actors. Jim Belushi, Fisher Stevens, Ella Anderson. Ella Anderson. Who plays Rachel, who is... People will know her from a Nickelodeon show she did. She's phenomenal. Henry. Michael Imperioli, who you probably know from The Sopranos, who's phenomenal. Hudson Henley, who plays... My little son, my youngest young son. Yeah. Who else have we got in there? He's the one doing the filming all the time. Oh, KP. KP, Michaela. We all hung out together. So we would hang out. We all actually really felt like, didn't it feel like a family?

32:20It felt like a family. Yeah. And that's why I'm so glad it's coming out on Christmas Day. Because for me, it really is about family. Yeah. And I think that's why it's emotional. And I sort of love that this story, I was talking with Eddie Vedder, who's had that relationship with Mike and actually never forgot Mike. And he just said, isn't it incredible how their dreams, which were naive, are being realized 30 years later through a movie? And that's sort of how I was like, yeah, Eddie is like, I'm telling everyone to see the movie and I'm not that kind of guy. I'm not the guy who's like, you've got to see it.

32:54But that's how I feel. I feel, but I feel it's Mike and Claire's story needs to get out there because it somehow sparks in all of us. Don't stop dreaming. Yes. Don't stop. I feel that it's so uplifting and I feel that everybody needs a little upliftment right now. I feel that it leaves you feeling open. Don't you feel that it opened the heart space a little for you? You feel that? There's a tragic accident that actually happened to the couple in real life. The character Claire struggles to recover and the family feels helpless. was where did you get to go some places for that? I went, whoa. Yeah, I got to go down.

33:32I got to go down and out. I think it's like any dream as an actor to be able to sort of go to a place where you can serve a story, especially when it's a real person where you can honor someone's darkness and their light. And for me, it's like really understanding what that is and then allowing the writing and the story and the director to help take you there. Yeah. And I was saying, like any performer, you long for the things that allow you to be able to feel out of body. And when you're working like that and you can actually like, it's like something you're channeling versus something you're trying to make happen.

34:13Yeah, it's coming through you. It's why we're so addicted to performing, whether it's on stage and you're singing or hitting a note or, you know, whether it's, you know, some of the tough scenes we had together. When you're in a pocket like that, there's something about it that it just feels like it's a channel. And, you know, with that comes all the work that goes into getting there and understanding that. That's what's so great about this film because, as you were saying earlier, Hugh, it's about lifing on people. And the character that you play also is struggling with his own problems and we feel the complexity of that in every scene and particularly when he's on stage because you're rooting for the guy.

34:57Right. You're rooting for the guy to win. So did you have to go someplace to tap into all the... There's so many multiple layers for both of you. So Mike was a Vietnam vet and in Vietnam he was a tunnel rat, which was the worst of the worst job. The ones who had to jump down into tunnels that were usually booby-trapped or filled with the enemy and just start shooting. and 90 % of them died of the tunnel rats. And many of them became addicts, the ones that survived. And so I started with that. What is that? You come back, you're given this chance at life that most of the people you know didn't have.

35:31He also had a heart condition. So he's one of those people that is not thinking, well, you know, I'm probably got till 75. He might go any minute. So there was an urgency about him. Like I need, I've got this dream and it's got to happen now. And sometimes that was to his detriment. Like, you see that scene with the biker bar. He's like, no, this is our set and this is what we're doing. And it doesn't turn out well. But I... He needed that Suleiman. In a way, I was... I love that biker bar where they play Suleiman. Yeah, right. Because Suleiman, I love that song, Suleiman. I was like, we can play it there.

36:02We can play it there. And that's all the true story. We're throwing bottles at him. And it broke his heart. Because for him, he thought, this is the road. And he got booed. And Mike, all he wanted to do was to please people and make them happy. And he couldn't understand he was being booed. It was a really, so I relate to him, but in many ways I'm inspired by him because he, there was no, no. He kept the dream going. He couldn't say no. He just kept going. And that scene at the table where he finally says, I think I'm going to give up lightning. You see what the cost of that is, what the cost of giving up that dream was.

36:35To both of them. To both of them. But he's rescued by his partner. They rescue each other. And there is like this sense of sort of the beautiful side of codependency. these are two people who really struggled with alcoholism and one with you know depression yeah and and and i i think craig as a writer did such a wonderful job of like you know understanding what it is to have those that that's that struggle but never like being inspired by it versus it bringing you down into the you know the and the whole time you're thinking this is a true story This is a true story? Yeah. No, I find myself, I've been in a few screenings, I want to yell out, did that really happen?

37:20No, no, no, that really happened. Everything really happened. Because it's so unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, we all have things in our life that come out of the blue, but somehow these two got, they got a truckload full of it. And what they go through. I mean, she's just standing in front of her house, which we won't say what that is. After the break, a little surprise for some true blue Neil Diamond fans and Latin and Thunder fans in Milwaukee. That's next. This Father's Day, do more with dad and spend less with low prices guaranteed at the Home Depot. Get him fired up with a new grill and accessories, like the next grill five burner for just$299 so you can spend more time together while he becomes the grill master he was always meant to be.

38:00Or build memories with savings on top brand power tools so you can tackle projects side by side. Gift more and do more together this Father's Day with help from The Home Depot. Exclusions apply. See homekeeper.com slash price match for details. Hey there, welcome back to my conversation with the incomparable Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, the stars of the new movie Song Song Blue. It's about a real-life Neil Diamond tribute band, but also so much more. Oh, I just love this movie. Do you have a question? Yes. Hello. Hi. How did you develop your amazing on-screen chemistry? On day one, we did a reading and Kate came up to me afterwards.

38:41And it's the only reading I've ever been to where everyone's crying at the end. Especially our producer. Your producer. John Davis was a mess. He's done 117 movies. 117 movies and he was crying. I have never, ever cried ever before at a reading. So you had read the whole thing. This is where you all sit around the table? And we just sat there and we had some sandwiches, some Jersey Mike's or something. And we were sitting there and you and I were just sitting next to each other. And I remember Kate turned to me and she said, this movie only works if we work. And I went, you're right. And somehow from day one, I knew that we could trust each other.

39:20There's something in our DNA we like to connect. You're a connector. Connect. And some actors who are brilliant and as soon as the camera's not rolling, they don't want to talk. They're separate. There's an exclusive. And it's okay. Yeah, yeah. That's just who they are. They're introverted. But we like to connect. So we very quickly got to understand each other, trust each other, and know that we were going to go to some places that neither of us had ever been before. Yeah, within hours, we knew each other's entire life story. The most intimate parts of, you know, and... It's a bit of a therapist.

39:54So I guess a lot of free therapy. So Kate, when you finished the reading and you said that to him, this movie only works if we worked. Was that based on the reaction that you'd gotten from everybody listening to it? Based upon what? Because as you know, during that first read, even though you've read the script yourself multiple times, when you have that first read in the room with everybody, it feels different. It comes alive in a way that it hasn't before. It does. I felt that way, though, coming in. It was my biggest thing was everything's on the page. The thing that we don't know if it is is our chemistry.

40:28and if we don't have that and if that's not, if we're not in that intimate that's why it doesn't feel like acting that's why you both deserve many awards because none of it feels like acting none of it feels like acting I'm so glad you mentioned that because both of us can, we can fake it pretty well, right? We can get on with people we can, you know, we can, yeah but this needed something deeper than two actors meeting they get on great. It needed a trust and intimacy. It's what the reviewer said. It's not just energy or chemistry. It's a synergy that happened, something that happened. Yeah. And so how do you make that happen?

41:10Is it either there or isn't there or you have to work at actually making it happen? I think what you said, did you have to work at it? I didn't. What, are we going to discover or something. No, I feel like when you say we're connectors, like, I think that there's something about us that's very, like, we love being a part of the community. We're circus people, you know, and there's a similarity in how we connect to anyone. And we're both tactile. And I think there was just this immediate understanding that we needed to go to this place. And so we allowed ourselves to trust is the right word, but also generosity.

41:51Hugh, like my son said this, Ryder said this about Hugh. He's like, mom, if sainthood was still sort of a thing, I think Hugh would be a saint. Ryder? Yeah. And he really meant that because he, and Ryder said, well, his words, not mine was his, your generosity of spirit is so, it's so powerful. It's so incredible. And, And I think that for someone like you, I think it's probably becoming intimate or doing something like that is something you haven't really expressed. No. And so when I was able to sort of be that person with you, it was like I felt this openness in you. But I think it's a new part of who you are in this part of your life.

42:37And I feel so honored that I got to be the first person. to actually experience that with you, which is, you know, I've met you multiple times throughout our, you know, careers, but there was just a newness in you, a different thing, and I think we just met each other at the right time, and it came out, and yeah. Therapist. Yeah. Yeah. I can hear you, I can see you receiving that, like what she's saying. I can see you really taking that in. Is what she's saying, you feel that for yourself, that there's a newness, there's something there? Yeah. And I felt it with the director as well, with Craig.

43:20Yeah, because you went somewhere we haven't seen you go before. You did, yeah. And I look up on the screen, I go, oh, I feel I'm seeing more of me that I feel than I've ever seen on screen. So I think it comes with trust, it comes with some humility, it comes with life. Your work, too. And the work, my own work. Yeah. Well, I want to show this moment, y 'all, where Hugh's character, Mike, realizes that his dreams just, they just might come true. Take a look. You know, Neil is special, and I just want everyone to get that feeling I get when I listen to America and Forever in Blue Jeans. Oh, sweet Caroline.

43:57Sweet Caroline, yeah, but I'm never going to be the real McCoy. I mean, I don't really look like Neil. I don't even really sound like Neil. I've got to be Neil, but I've just got to be me, too. Yeah, you don't want to be a Neil Diamond impersonator. You want to be a Neil Diamond interpreter. I was looking for the right way to say it, and you just came right out and said, a Neil Diamond interpreter. So you were saying that there was a part of you that is showing up in this film that you haven't even seen or expressed before. If I could simplify it, it feels like a letting go. It feels like a relaxing.

44:35It feels like a trusting I think I had maybe. If I can look at myself, it was a little more planned. A little more planned, a little more controlled, a little somehow. This feels like there's layers that have just gone down. And that's why I say about Kate, you meet Kate, it's just congruent. There's no barrier. You can feel it today. There's no barrier to what she's saying right here today is exactly what she was saying backstage to me. There's no difference. And I think there's more, I think working with you really helped. Working with Craig and the script and maybe just life. It's catching me at this time in my life.

45:15But Hugh, you said this halfway through the movie. He said, I feel like this is just meeting us both at exactly the right time. Because we were both, it was an emotional experience for both of us to make this movie. There were so many themes and so many things that we could relate to in our own life. even the musicality of it, you know. I started crying when y 'all played Play Me Together for the first time. Did y 'all not? Oh, my God. And that shot, how he goes around. Oh, my God. That was Kurt. That was Kurt's first shot. Yeah, I loved that moment. Yes, that was when my dad got him up. That's Craig Brewer.

45:48Remember what he did with Hustle and Flow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember to try to be handsome and Terrence Howard, that moment where they start to make a song and you feel something magic happen? That's exactly what happened here. He did it here again. Yeah, Craig. He did it here again. Belushi said this on one of our interviews. He's got the soul of a musician, Craig, our writer-director. And, you know, I think music movies are really hard to make. They're not made well very often. You could really name your favorite ones. And you, you said in the CBS Mornings piece that you tried out for every musical and been turned down.

46:23I know. Everything that had anything to do with music, I was like, I would love to do it. Some I got to do, some I didn't. But, yeah, I think Craig, though, has such an amazing connection to music himself. And so you can do it. And we sang it live. Craig was like, we'll do it live. Because if we're going to capture a magic moment, it has to be captured there. Well, Mike Sardina, Lightning, passed away in 2006. But Claire, Thunder, is still alive. She's still doing it. Has she seen the movie? Yeah. Yeah, she saw it. She loves it. She loves it. She's just over the moon, and it was very challenging for her to watch.

47:03Yeah. Yeah. I guess where we go down. Yeah. But she's just so great. They're so happy. It makes me so happy that she's. Yeah. I think about Mike a lot because I'm like, his whole thing, like he was so filled with life and wanted to be this big, this, you know, his I'm huge, I'm huge. It's like. I love when he goes, I'm huge, baby. Yeah, I'm huge, baby. I'm huge. Yeah. And, I mean, I wish he could experience this, but this is, I guess, exactly. This is the way it was supposed to be. He's up there making this all happen. Yeah, yeah. He was like when 13th Studio said, no, Mike's up there. Hold on for the 14th, yes.

47:43This is going to be huge. This is going to be huge. Okay, so I have a little surprise. Is it my nanny? No. That's true, because I didn't have one. You didn't have one. Okay, so here's a surprise. Okay, we found two people in Wisconsin who love Neil Diamond and used to go to the real lightning and thunder concerts back then. Oh my God. They think, okay, I'm going to start, I'm going to zoom in with them in a second. And they think, they've been told by the producers, that we're doing a show talking about America and that because I grew up in Milwaukee and it's this, you know, center of the country, want to talk about that.

48:23and they don't know that they are here and they don't know that we want to talk about lightning and thunder. So I'm getting ready to do that. Okay. Oh, hi there. Hi, guys. So Barb and her husband, Reed, and their best friends, Christy, and her husband, Casey, are joining us on Zoom from Wisconsin. They're all born and raised in the Milwaukee area. Christy, I want to ask you first, I hear you're all big fans of Neil Diamond. And, you know, there was a group that used to play there in Wisconsin called Lightning and Thunder. And that was a real Midwestern American kind of thing. So can you tell us about that?

49:06Did you all know who they were? Absolutely. Sure. Yeah. So, yes, we absolutely knew who Lightning and Thunder were. We, as young adults, before we were even married, would go and enjoy the shows downtown Milwaukee. Wisconsin, you know, we love our music. So we enjoyed their show so much. It felt like you were at a mini concert. They were great singers and it was so much fun. It was, you know, not only fun with your group, but the whole bar joining in and singing. So they really were great connectors and a lot of fun to see, for sure. Was it just in Milwaukee? Was it a Milwaukee thing only? They also were in Chicago.

49:47I had friends from college that also would go see them for the weekends. So, you know, this area, they would hit. So, Barb, what was it about lightning and thunder and the whole Neil Diamond music that you love that attracted you? Well, what we loved about them is they had this chemistry between the two of them. And he would come out, walk to the crowd, and he'd look like Neil Diamond. So we would all kind of gather around him and sing. And it was like you were with Neil Diamond because he really looked like Neil Diamond. But he just made it really fun. And they were kind of fed off of each other as a couple.

50:26So they were really fun. I think that is so fun. You know what is even more fun? That we know it's your birthday, Barb. And it's your birthday. And I, you know, I love a good surprise. And I want to let you on a little secret. We've been keeping from you. Here in New York, I'm here with the stars of the new movie Song, Song Blue, Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, who play lightning and thunder in the film. Hi. It's a big... It's a big birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Barb. It's my mom's birthday tomorrow, so this is cool. And I know you have a surprise for me, Hugh. What's the surprise?

51:06What is my surprise? Okay, the surprise is... The surprise is that you all are going to go in the spirit of the season. Hugh and Kate are going to rent out the theater for you for your own VIP screening of the movie Song Song Blue. That's awesome. And you're bringing all of your friends and family. Yay! That is so awesome.

51:34Thank you, Hugh and Kate. So when they say you should read these notes, you really should read the notes. I knew about you guys. Anyway, we're so thrilled. I've been planning it for a long time. And, you know, I spoke to the manager. Everything's going to be great. And Kate's taking care of all the popcorn and all the concessions. Don't worry about it. A lot of garlands. A lot of garlands. So many Christmas decorations. It's going to be so fun. So you get the whole theater for your friends and family to go see it. Let me tell you, the audience here, we've all seen it, and it is fantastic. You're going to have so much fun.

52:13We want to dance in the aisles during the show. Well, you'll be able to do that. You'll be able to do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all so much. Thank you, guys. Happy birthday. Awesome. How fun. A rented out theater with your family. That sounds so much fun. I know. I love it. That's so great. Didn't you think that was a good idea? I thought it was awesome. Oh, I took an idea. Oh, good. Thanks. And it was so sweet of you to try and give it to me. That was my idea. That was so kind. Okay, there's something about, I think, the spirit of the holidays and the spirit of Neil Diamond's music mixed together with the spirit of this love story that really lifts you up.

52:57What do you, I mean, I know that you did the film because you wanted to do the film, but what do you want people to get from all of this? Yeah. And the story in many ways is it could be anyone. They're everyday people, but their lives are extraordinary because of not just what happens to them, but because of their dreams and the way they build this family together. There's two people who come together later in life and they rescue each other and they build around them this village that no matter what goes on in their life, they have someone there for them. The unit, the family unit. It will really restore any faith you have in having dreams, sticking to them.

53:41Don't say no. If anyone tells you you can't have that dream, that's too big for you. You say, no, I'm actually going to dream even huger. Yeah. And then when a terrible, anything bad shows up in your life, you just pick yourself up and you keep going. And pick each other up. And pick each other. Oh, that's it. And the unit gets us through everything. And I also think that there's something really amazing about that it really honors like the tip jar musician. It honors the people who. Because all those people who are in the scenes with you in the beginning, those people were real people that were on that circuit, right?

54:17Yes. For every great rock star, every movie star, everything, there's a thousand people who are just as talented and don't get the same opportunities. and are still out there and they do it because they love it. And I always say, like, I remember when, was it Killian Murphy who said, I'm a failed musician. And I remember hearing him say that and I thought, no, you're not. You're always a musician. There's nothing, there's no failure in being a musician. That's right, if you love the music. How you do it. Yeah. And I think there's, it's a big love story to that, to people who have a drive to whether it's you sing.

54:55I think that's what's so motivating about it is that ultimately it's a big love story, right? Yeah. Big love story. Yeah. Well, thank you, Hugh and Kate for stopping by. Love you so much. Thank you. Guys, song, song, blues in theaters everywhere. Christmas Day, I think it's just a great sea for the holiday season. And you walk away with a tear in your eye. I had a couple tears in my eyes during it. And a song in your heart. whether you know Neil Diamond, love Neil Diamond, not know Neil Diamond, it's a fantastic film and you guys are fantastic in it, really. Thanks, Oko.

55:36I can't wait to see it again. I've got a little story. What? Can I tell you a little story? I want to hear the story. I hope Neil doesn't mind me telling you this, but when you're in the Diamond house, They have a little rule that if anyone in conversation says so good, two other people have to say so good, so good. So good, so good. You have no idea how often we say so good in life. Try that at home. And when I was there and it happened, it was so funny to me. I was like, did you guys really just do that? And they're like, oh, anytime someone says so good. Like if you say this food, this other meeting, it's so good.

56:09Then the family will go, so good, so good. I'm like, that is the best. and now I do it all the time. If I hear it, I do it all the time. It's so great. And he loves it. It wasn't something in the original song. It just came out. Yeah. It happened in performance and crowd started. Someone picked it up. And then everybody does it all over the world. Isn't music the best language? It is the best. It's the best. But I just saw a video on YouTube of like 60 ,000 people in a stadium in Germany singing Sweet Caroline. I mean, it is the official national anthem of white people. It is for sure.

56:48That, this it is. So good. So good. So good. So good. All right, go well, everybody. See you next time. Oh, yeah. Sleeping on my pillow. Sleeping on my pillow.

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