PMS 2.0 1373 - Nigel Seeley, Sauce Gardner, Shams Charania, Lane Johnson, Florida Panthers GM Bill Zito, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

22:18We've got no fan, no air conditioning. And my wife said today, should we go and buy an air conditioner? She said, what's the point of that? We're not going to use it for five years.

22:25Pat McAfee:that's crazy okay i just learned a lot shout out to you guys like we kind of got an amish group over here that kind of does the same but yeah you guys obviously internet everything think about the it's a great invention it's awesome it's a great you guys should think about okay let's move forward now who's going to win this thing in the men and who's going to win in the women well i think um if you look at the men's draw carlos outcrest has been given a very very favorable draw and everything is about the bracket in this tournament you know you've got an easy bracket outcrest come through a really, really tough match against Fabio Fagnini in round one.

22:57But again, it takes time to transition from a clay court to a grass court. He's a slow slatter traditionally. Last year when he won, when he got better as the tournament went on, you would expect a legend of the game or a player who's at the top of his game like Alcrazano when he won to have a bad day at the office. That was all it was, a bad day at the office. He's playing a young British guy now. He's two sets to love up. He's going to beat him. This is a big stage for the young British guy. He's not going to compete. the draw is opened up. I cannot see Carlos Alcraz not getting to the semi-finals, where hopefully he will play the American number one Taylor Fritz, who came through a bit of a tough match last night against Petsy Peregaard, the biggest server in the men's game.

23:33On the flip side of that, the other half of the draw, the other bracket, is very, very tough. You have Novak Djokovic in there, you have Yannick Sinner in there, you have the British number one, Jack Draper, who is a contender this week, you know. I'm not saying that because I'm a Brit, but he is a contender. So the draw has been favourable to Carlos Alcraz. And I think that the draw will open up for him. I believe that he will, you know, he's played a five-set match. He's had his bad day. I think he's going to get better and better as the tournament goes on. John McEnroe famously said, you want to just play your best tennis as you go through the tournament.

24:04You have a bad day in the first week. Go on and go forward. And I think Carlos Alcraz will be the man to beat. Three thumbs on the chart. Yannick Sinner will be his finest, I think. I can't see anything other than the top two playing. And I think they'll compete. On the women's side, it's much more competitive. You have literally about 20 players who can win the women's draw. Arena Savalenka is the number one seed, which has been the beaten finest in the last two majors in Australia and in France at Paris. Coco Gauff, the French Open champion, is gone. You have Von Drusseva, a former women's champion, who's coming into some kind of form.

24:37But American women have won the two majors this year. Madison Keyes won in Australia. You had Coco Gauff win in French. and it's good for American women's tennis at the moment. And I've actually bet two American players, actually, to go quite deep at big prices. I think Madison Keys is probably the biggest serving woman in the tournament. Grass will suit her game. She has quite a difficult bracket, but the fact that she's won the Australian Open and she's won a major gives her a huge confidence going that she can compete and she can beat the best players. I think she's got a great chance. And if you're looking for a dangerous outsider, there's a hard-hitting American who's around about 20 in the world, a girl called Amanda Anisimova.

25:18Now, she has had problems off the court with her mental health, she's had issues with injuries but on a date, she is a proven player. She's coming to this tournament in great grass court form, she's got a favourable draw and I think the two American girls will give you a run for your money. I'm fading the favourite. Sabalenka I think, I'm not quite sure I think she's more about her sort of lifestyle So I'll off the court rather than on the court. But I think you want hungry players. And at Wimbledon, the last eight years, eight different people have won it. And there's always been a shock. So it wouldn't surprise me to see a shock winner.

25:50Not like the men's. The men's dominated by the favorites. I love you saying a little comfortable, I think.

25:57Pat McAfee:I think we're a little bit too comfortable at the top, especially for Wimbledon with how hot it is and everything you're going to have to go through. Miss Amandas, I didn't hear the last name because your accent obviously is so heavy. I couldn't hear what you said. It's Anisimova. A-N-I-S-I-M-O-V-A. Amanda Samova. Annie Samova, yes. One name, Anna Samova. Anna Samova? Yeah. Amanda Samova? Anna Samova. Amanda Anna Samova. Amanda Anna Samova. That's a tough one with a bridge. Double A. Amanda Anna Samova. Okay, good luck, Amanda. Good luck, Madison Keys. Obviously, we're pulling free to win this thing.

26:35Pat McAfee:Okay, let's pivot away from Wimbledon real quick. We have a British person on. What should we ask about? Soccer. Tons question for you, Nigel. Yeah, Nigel, I was wanting to see if you had a favorite or a club that you like the most in the FIFA Club World Cup moving forward. Well, I mean, the first thing is I think the Brazilian teams have done exceptionally well in this tournament. I mean, they've surprised everybody. They've got huge support, especially down in Miami, massive amount of support. The conditions, you know, we're talking about hot conditions. There's air conditioning there. So there's a difference here.

27:04I honestly think that Paris Saint-Germain will win it They're the favourites They're the best team in Europe They're a very young side They're getting better every round they play They're the European champions They dismantled Inter Milan in the final Plus$2.25 Chelsea would be a fade for me at$4 I think the British teams or the English sides here I don't think they'll go They want to win it for the prize money But I also think this cup competition is going to have huge Ramifications when the season comes because I think a lot of these teams are going to be spent. So the angle for me was when they come back from here in the early parts of their regular season, I think they're a fade.

27:41But I think Paris Saint-Germain will justify a favourite season and win the tournament. The one thing I heard Pat say there is that the American team could win the World Cup, but they've got to do better than the 2-2 draw against Costa Rica. They've got to do better than the 2-1 win against Haiti. We won that game. And the 1-0 win against Saudi Arabia. We beat Costa Rica.

28:00Pat McAfee:We beat Costa Rica. Freeze, by the way. penalties, wouldn't it? There was no extra time. If we would have had golden goal time, we would have wanted it. And then instead they went straight to penalties because once again, we don't understand what's going on with the Gold Cup. Saudi Arabia's in it as well. I mean, there's a lot of conversations and we have a lot of questions. This guy stopped three out of six penalties, brother. We dominated in that thing. What are you talking about? This is our team. Punch talking shit. You win the penalties against Costa Rica. There was no overtime. There was no overtime.

28:30Pat McAfee:They won't strike the penalties. It was good for soccer. Of course you hate it. But just you need to know this. It's never coming home. It's staying home when the World Cup is here. You very kindly sent me, last time I was on, you very kindly and all your teams sent me a bottle of champagne. And I said, I'll drink it when it's coming home. I think you said that we're almost near 2050. There's more chance of me 87 having a glass of that before then. We are 9 ,131 days from the year 2050. and whenever that champagne ages another one of those amount of days it's going to be great there is also another celebration anniversary coming around here at the end of the week and I don't know it's synonymous but happy 4th of July I don't know 259 years since we beat your ass Nigel so many friends of mine across the pond I wish them all the very best.

29:28Have a great holiday for your family and friends. And thank you as always. I love coming on your show. Really appreciate you having me on. Have a great holiday lads. That's why America won. We love you bro. We love you Nigel.

29:40Pat McAfee:We fucking love you. We appreciate you ladies and gentlemen. Nigel see you later. Nigel! How many years? 259 baby. 260 next year. That's a big one. That's a big anniversary. That's a long time. Gotta appreciate that. He had the US Open hat on too. He knows. Well it's 4th of July. I mean Yeah. What do they call us? Colonies? No, they call us something, though. Some of the British people. Stinky yank. Stupid yank. Yeah. I mean, I've been called a stupid yank everywhere. Yeah, for sure. There's something else that I think they say. All I know is they're just going to be saying to themselves on Friday, like, damn.

30:15We let a good one go. We did it again. We lost a good one. Yeah, they throw a bunch of tea in Boston on Friday. I think they should call us saviors twice.

30:23Pat McAfee:Okay, I mean, that's certainly a part of the conversation as well. They were with us, though. You know, you got to remember that. What happened the last time England was in penalties, by the way, in a big international tournament? I don't know, Gumby, can you tell us what England did? No idea. Grazie. Italy. That was the super-duper Euros, wasn't it? That was Euros. Yeah, that's right. That was the super-duper Euro tournament. Oh, yeah, Euros, yeah, penalties, yeah, blue, that's what we do. You know, England just gets as far as they can and lose in the final. Yeah, well, I think, I wonder if England knows this, but Ponch and the boys are coming.

30:56Yeah. They're bringing hell with them. Yes, we are. I don't like that Nigel just – he didn't even think about giving USA a chance.

31:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, he laughed. You beat Costa Rica, tied to Costa Rica. You're going to have to do better than that. It's like, we beat Costa Rica. Yeah. We got to win. So soccer guys don't respect BK wins? Nah. Not against Costa Rica. Not against Costa Rica. But last time the English laughed at America, I think, was 1776. And then what happened? You told me. And then what happened? Who won that, huh? Nigel, you asshat. Can't understand that guy, man. No, it is hard to understand what he's saying. He's just got you on rocks. I got no idea who's winning Wimbledon. Because I didn't pick up one thing from that interview.

31:39It's the favorites on the men's side and maybe Madison Keys and Amanda Ana Samova. Maybe. I don't know. That's what he said, though. We can't confirm. I don't think anyone can confirm that. Game set bet, brother.

31:53Pat McAfee:Game bet. Bet match. What are you doing? What are you doing ruining the entire thing? You're Canadian. With ties to England, you should not be talking. That's betting weekly. Game, bet, match. I misheard it. That's on me. No, it's like game, set, match. Exactly. Oh, like a tennis. Yes. That's why we have him on. Game, set, bet might be better. He was talking about tennis there? All right. I got something better for him. Dental floss. Okay? It's real simple. jeez. Nick, Nick, we know that England doesn't have two things. AC, toothpaste, and dental floss. I love England. I've been there multiple times.

32:32Pat McAfee:It is a great, it's a beautiful place. Stayed on a golf course one time for our game in London. Then obviously stayed downtown whenever we had the WWE event over there. It's like I've got a chance to enjoy all of England seemingly out in the land and then in there. Not all of it, but you get it. People are hilarious. And I think Nigel would take that as a sign of respect, what you just said about Yeah, but people in England just need to stop using freaking mustard for Listerine. Like, you don't need to do that. You can use normal stuff. That is not an accurate depiction, I don't think, in 2025.

33:04How about the no air conditioning over there?

33:07Pat McAfee:That's a wild. That's crazy. Insane. And they have the window locks. This is actually just one. Did you see? Also, some of the buildings they have have these locks on them, so you can only open the windows like this much in your house. So it's just dead air in there. So it's so hot. Back in the day, they taxed some places. Like I know Ireland, when I was over there, they got taxed on their window size. They had to pay for their windows size. So some of these places, some of the buildings had like small little windows. And then you think if they get a heat wave through there, I mean, that's just nightmare.

33:39Pat McAfee:So we appreciate you all over here. No wonder they're sucking down so many ice cold pints. Yeah, neat. But it's not ice cold, remember? No, yeah, it's really actually lukewarm. but what they're sitting in, you know, might as well be the Arctic. Let's pivot away from England and let's go to an all-pro, a pro bowler. A man who's making good business moves. I like what he's doing with his cue collar. And he's a guy who's entering the fourth year, which is technically the final year of his rookie contract, but they picked up his fifth-year option as well for the New York Jets. Everything we thought he was going to be coming out of college at Cincinnati, he has certainly ended up being.

34:13Pat McAfee:Absolute stud, superstar for the New York Jets. Ladies and gentlemen, Sauce Gardner.

34:17Sauce Gardner:Yay! Oh! What's up, dude? What's going on? How y 'all doing? I appreciate y 'all for having me, man.

34:23Pat McAfee:Thank you for joining us. We're big fans of yours. Obviously, we followed your college career. You're an absolute dog. And everything you've done with New York, obviously, team success will hopefully come for you guys. But the way you've played on the field as an individual has been sweet to watch. Can we talk about this cue, caller? Because I love that you're making business moves. First of all, you had the Buffalo Wild Wings deal. I assume you've had other deals. This one feels like a brilliant move because it could be what the future is looking for in football You wore this and you felt different like what is what was your experience with it?

34:54Pat McAfee:And why did you decide that you wanted to spread the word about this for more football players?

34:59Sauce Gardner:So I remember I was at practice and I seen my teammate Braylon Allen He was he was running out to practice and I seen someone his neck and I'm like yo What's that because I like different I like being different, you know So I asked him about it. He told me about the science of it and things like that So I got to doing my own research about it and I was able to see how it um How it helps when it in terms of head-to-head collisions and stuff like that and you know football can be a physical sport It is a physical sport and you know the most important part of your body is your brain So I was like yo, I'm aware this tomorrow and I have one on Amazon to order it to get to the facility the next day and and the Q Collar team ended up, like, bringing me one that same day, and, like, I just ended up rocking with it, and I just remember me being able to feel so confident in the game, and then after the games being able to, like, feel good after, and I was like, yo, I'm going to wear these every day at practice.

35:57Sauce Gardner:I'm going to wear this every day at every game, and then it just became a necessity for me, and, like, you know, my everyday routine in terms of practicing, and especially in games. are you going to get one iced out or what um so they they've been making different like sleeves for me and they did do like an iced out one not with actual like diamonds but it looks pretty it looks pretty iced out though you know what i'm saying so i might i might wear that week one

36:24Pat McAfee:not often do you at hell yeah that's what i'm talking about not often are you able to add accessories to a look that looked cool i think we noticed it last year because it looked cool on people now obviously you used to have the cowboy collar used to have the little bit of a bump back there but like that thing looked cool and then as we learned about it we assumed it was bullshit by the way we assumed that it was absolute bullshit and then i read uh from the cue caller folks on the website and everything that they've had 25 different peer reviewed scientific research testing done on this they're saying there is actual benefits to it and everything and the science is real good for you get involved and hopefully this is something that

36:59Sauce Gardner:helps the next generation oh yeah i definitely think it's going to help the next generation you So that's why I'm excited to be partnered and involved with the QColor brand. So I'm looking forward to me wearing it and other people that's in the league right now wearing it. And especially, I'm looking forward to college players wearing it because I think it's very beneficial.

37:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, especially, I mean, they're trying to do the Guardian caps, obviously, in practice to take away the things. It's like, this would be a much easier thing to do. Plus, seven on seven. I mean, you can, it feels like a lot of different places. Good luck with all of it. Shout out to Satoshi Nakamoto That's Bitcoin That's Bitcoin on your Your chest, your shirt Oh, um

37:42Sauce Gardner:I don't know what this is I'm not gonna lie I don't know what this is My stylist ad got it for me And he's there like this I think it's Satoshi, so it's like a popular It's a popular brand, you know, everybody Really wearing it, especially in like In like the fashion

38:01Pat McAfee:everybody it's at dips too it's at dips and it's really going up going to the moon that's awesome i thought you see the shirt that shirt is sweet let me go ahead and put that thing on you look awesome all right let's talk about football a little bit here obviously there's a new regime in new york what has been your early thoughts on ag as the head coach uh obviously he and aaron had a quick conversation in and out he has a vision for what he wants his team to be uh what is your thoughts on coach Glenn and what are your thoughts on where the Jets are right now?

38:33Sauce Gardner:Man, I'm impressed. You know, I've always heard a lot of great things about him, you know, when he was in Detroit. So I'm like, yo, this is who I want to be the next head coach here. And obviously, I love defensive minded head coaches. But the thing that sets him apart is like, he knows so much about offense as well. So much about special teams and him just as a person. He want to get the best out of you like when I asked him coach Wilkes like what they want out of me it's like they want me to have this standard that I already have and keep it there like week in and week out and it's like you know that's perfection that's basically basically what they're telling me is they want me to be perfect and that's what I want I always want to be perfect even though there's no such thing as perfect people I want to be perfect and like you know that's what I need You know, I've had a lot of early success in the league, and, you know, I never want to get complacent.

39:27Sauce Gardner:So, you know, Mr. Johnson bringing the new regime in, that's going to push me even more. More than, I don't know if nobody can push me more than I push myself, but for them to come in here and just, like, also push me and have this new standard that I haven't even reached, like, for me, you know, it's just a blessing, for sure.

39:45Pat McAfee:Well, and having to feel like you have to reprove yourself to people is always a good thing, too. for super competitive people like yourself. Like that is, you've got a whole new audience now, and these people are your coaches. I think that can be reinvigorating. And you're still on your rookie contract, and you went into last season, I think, as PFF's number one corner in the entire NFL. I think on everybody's board, your top five corner in the entire league, no matter who is asked. And you're only going into year four. So much more on the horizon, especially with AG. Deebutt has a question for you.

40:12Yeah, Pat just mentioned still on your rookie deal. Big fan of your game, first and foremost. Number one, what has this offseason been like preparing for this fourth year? And it's a big contract year. I don't think you've made much noise about it, but your draft mate got paid, Stingley Jr., he broke the bank. Ramsey just got a bump. Sertan got paid. J.C. Horn got paid. Like, you're on deck. So what's your thoughts going into this big contract year?

40:37Sauce Gardner:Man, I'm not going to lie. Like, this offseason has been, like, by far my best offseason. I've been, like, I just left L.A. from training with my trainer, Akil, and like i just feel i feel great you know i'm sitting about 200 pounds right now and i don't think i've ever really played that heavy but it's like the more weight that i done put on the more muscle like the more explosive and the faster i'd be uh i've become you know um but yeah my team and the jets you know they've been talking and you know we have like our goals in terms of like the contract and things like that you know it's been pretty productive but yeah we we have our goals in terms of like numbers and stuff like that and you know the jets are aware of that and i'm aware of like the rest of my peers like jc stingley uh even pat had got paid obviously before me but those are all guys that that is well deserving of the money that they uh that they got so you You know, it's definitely something that my team and the Jets are talking about.

41:42Pat McAfee:Vayner Media, too. Obviously, we're big fans of the Vayner family. Excited to see you. He might own the Jets someday, is Gary's thought. AJ, obviously, running Vayner Sports. Excited to see how that works out. You're a pillar player over there for the Jets. Very quickly became the name brand for them. And the corner position is back to getting paid a lot of money at the top, which is where you are. Yeah, and I would say the market isn't high enough yet compared to like pass rushers, wide receivers, et cetera. And kind of on that note, what's your thoughts about having or putting together some type of summit, you know, for us?

42:14We got Lane Johnson coming on and talking about the O-line summit, the SAC summit they have that year in and year out. Tight end you has become a huge thing. I think you're, I want to put you on the spot, but you're one of those guys, you know, going to four, you know, you become an OG event in the league real quick. Hold on, hold on.

42:30Pat McAfee:You think DBs, I mean, that many DBs in one place? Yeah, needed. Holy shit. So much pain. The amount of shit being taught in that weekend would be, we're talking historic. We're talking historic. Do we do need it, Sauce? Something to think about at least.

42:48Sauce Gardner:I definitely been wanting to be a part of something like that. I know guys like Quandre Diggs, Darius Slade, they've hit me up about it. I think even Richard Sherman said something to me about it. I've always wanted to do something like that because me personally, I'm not going to say cornerback is the most needed position because obviously you need a quarterback. You need a pretty good quarterback play. But I do think, and I'm not being biased, I do think cornerback is the hardest position to play. So it's like ain't nothing wrong with giving games to the other guys around you. Like the way I think it's bigger than just me.

43:28Sauce Gardner:You know, it's younger guys that come. And it's crazy that I'm saying this because, like, I'm still young. You know, I'm only year four. But, like, you know, you got rookies that come in, and, you know, they need some type of guidance, you know, as a person. And you know how they need to be as a rookie, you know. So I've always been for that. I don't know why it haven't got done yet. I'm not going to say it's my fault it hasn't got done. It is. I'm going to blame it on Slay. Oh, basketball. Yes. Yeah, it's his fault. So, yeah, it's his fault. But I'm definitely for that, you know, and I definitely want that to happen as well.

44:07Pat McAfee:Where's that happening at? I know you're from Detroit. South Florida's probably the – It's a good spot. South Florida, L.A. is probably a good spot. We can't do L.A.

44:16Sauce Gardner:We can't do L.A. because it's a little far. You know, we definitely can't do Detroit because, you know, I'm not going to say too much. But we can't do it. Hell yeah. We can't do the trade at all, man.

44:31Pat McAfee:It sounds like you guys got to figure it out, okay? You and Darius Slade need to figure it out. That would be an epic weekend, okay? And you said you understand that there has to be good quarterback play. Speaking of that, good friend of yours coming right down the pike. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, you'll be on the other sideline as Darius Slade week one, but you'll also be on the other sideline as your friend Aaron Rodgers. How do you feel about playing Rodgie in week one?

44:53Sauce Gardner:Man, it's going to be crazy. There's going to be a lot of emotions in that game. You know, he's a he's a for now. I don't care what people say about him He's a phenomenal person like you know I remember when he first got to New York and we went to dinner and I just got to like pick his brain You know in terms of stuff as me as a football player like tendencies that I could give to make him know if I'm playing Manners own or what I'm doing and stuff like that and we got on the field It's just so much that he's taught me as a player, you know and me playing cornerback I'm not thinking a quarterback can help me, you know, and I'm looking forward to it because it's like He might think he know that like he might think he'd know all the tendencies that I have This offseason has really been like Me trying not to give nothing away like I've been I've been like trying to work on literally everything Because I already know I'm about to go against a wizard week one you know what I'm saying I already know it I already know what time it is and you know they got Slade J-Ram Jonu Smith DK like they they got some dogs over there so so Mike T he definitely been cooking up and you know I'm looking forward to the challenge because I always like challenges but you know I know it's gonna be a good game I know it's gonna be a lot of smiles out there but it's gonna be a lot of competing out there at the same time you trying to out

46:17Pat McAfee:wizard to wizard is a funny thing like i'm not hey aaron just want to let you know i've been working on a lot of new shit this offseason that's what you just said he's gonna hear what you just said yeah yeah you let him know hey you think you know everything yeah right this offseason three different twists and turns uh that's hilarious to think about that team though stealers he's a diehard stealers fan they're going all in this year first test got sauce gardener in the jets excited to watch how it goes excited for season to get started man you too i know i don't know what offseason's like for you i know you're in it i think you're in a public

46:45Sauce Gardner:relationship congratulations we need to give you uh i'm not gonna say that you know i prefer to keep football is the main thing you know what i'm saying so i want to keep that the main thing i don't want to i don't want it to come off like i'm just in this public relationship and i'm just because at the end of the day football is my main focus you know what i'm saying yeah you're allowed

47:10Pat McAfee:to do that though you know you're allowed to be fully focused on being the greatest football player you could be, especially in New York, especially with the fifth year coming up on the other side. Have you enjoyed the offseason at all? What have you, has it been all work? It's a golf game. Yeah, it's a golf game. I mean, everything.

47:26Sauce Gardner:Nah, I'm not going to lie. I haven't really even golfed this offseason. I gave it up. You quit the game? I'm not going to say I quit, but I had to take some time back to really know what's going on in my life. You know what I'm saying? So I had to I had to drop golf for a little bit I had to focus on focus even more on training even though training is always like I will golf after I got done training There was never like seven one in for the other nothing like that, you know, just focus on training I traveled a little bit. I went to like what it went to like Paris. Oh, we bonjour Germany, I think Italy too, I was just going I was I was in the wrong places.

48:10Sauce Gardner:Um And, yeah, you know, it helped my mental to just be able to, you know, travel the world and just do stuff like that.

48:17Pat McAfee:Yeah, you worked your ass off, man. You worked your ass off to be able to experience that. You could have never fathomed I said, well, I guess you probably did, actually. But just think of the story, Detroit all the way to hanging out in Italy, having some pasta, enjoying your life, working your ass off for all of it. You should be incredibly proud. Let's get back to you in football and the way you go about doing your business. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, so I was maybe trying Ireland, also a great place over there. Yeah, going to be boozing, though. You're going to have to do as the locals. It's going to be a lot of G.I.

48:45being sucked down for sure. What is your film study kind of process like? What are you looking for when it comes to getting ready for teams? Obviously, with Aaron week one, it'll be a little different because you're familiar with him. But what is that process like? And have you been able to watch film with Aaron Glenn? And has he been able to give you some more tricks of the trade per se?

49:06Sauce Gardner:Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, he always finds ways they'll meet. That's why I appreciate him so much. In terms of watching the Steelers or somebody like Aaron, I can't really study Aaron for real because he'll show you the same exact tendency and do something totally different. So in terms of the Steelers, I would preferably study their OC, study the receivers, just study the tight ends and stuff like that because you can't really get a beat on Aaron like that. and that go all the way back to when we played the Packers. Like, you got to be disciplined. If you're not disciplined playing against them, then it's not going to work.

49:46If you're the middle field safety and Aaron look to the left side and you go running to the left side, it's not going to work.

49:53Sauce Gardner:You know what I'm saying? It's just little things like that. Like, you have to be disciplined when you're playing against Aaron. And it's not just Aaron, but Aaron is like, I feel like he's the best when it comes to making you think one thing and doing something totally different. you know so i always i put hours in when it comes to um to watch the tape you know i always put hours in and just you know make sure i'm learning something new every every session i love that uh

50:18Pat McAfee:attention to detail aaron also will use up every second of that play clock as you know he's just waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting you didn't show anything god damn these timeouts at one second or half a second on the play clock legendary but the amount of information he's trying to get i I appreciate and respect the fact that you've been a teammate of his. And I assume he's given you some of this game at dinners and stuff. It's like, let's not worry about air. Okay, let's worry about our own shit.

50:45Sauce Gardner:I do miss him, though. I do miss him. So I appreciate y 'all for bringing him up. I do miss him. I can't lie. He misses you too. I miss his presence. You know what I'm saying? I miss his treasure. But, you know, we got a new dog. We got a new dog in town. You know, we got Justin Fields. You know, he a dog.

51:03Pat McAfee:What are your thoughts on him? Big investment by the Jets in him to be your next quarterback. We obviously saw him with the Pittsburgh Steelers. We saw highlights from whenever he was with the Chicago Bears. What has it been like with him as the starting quarterback of the Jets?

51:16Sauce Gardner:Man, it's been great. Like, him being younger as well, like me being able to say certain things and him being able to say certain things about each of our games, you know. And I could just tell he's been locked in in terms of tape, like in terms of the playbook, in terms of everything. Like, he getting there early. You know what I'm saying? He get into the he get to the facility early Being one of the last people to leave like he really been dialed in like trying to make those those type of throws Like he made a few throws and um in OTAs That I'm like yo, I did not know he was capable of making this throw It's only it's only a certain a certain amount of quarterbacks that can make I'm talking about his throws on like Aaron's type level like when it comes to like being able to squeeze those throws in there I always thought Aaron was like the best when it came to that and it's like Justin and made a few throws where I'm like okay he bet he really been in the lab for I could just I could just tell and he's always been a talented athlete he's always been a talented quarterback I just remember having to go against him and us us changing the whole game plan I remember we had to play the Steelers and And we didn't know if Justin was going to play or not and who was going to be the starter.

52:30Sauce Gardner:We had to change the whole game plan for Justin. Just for him to not even play that game. Just for Russ to be the starter. So then we went back to the other game plan like the night before or something like that. So, you know, I don't know what disrespect he received. But, you know, in terms of the players and the teams, I feel like they always give him his respect that's needed, you know?

52:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, hell yeah. And he's faster than everybody on the field, whenever he's running on the field. Seemingly, he looks that way at least. And the Jets made a big investment. I mean,$20 million a year. I'm excited to watch them. I'm excited to see what they do with them. And if you guys are a power team, power, power with him, and he's talking about in the lab throwing it, look out, maybe that wide receiver goes apeshit this year. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, speaking of that wide receiver sauce, how beneficial has it been to be able to go up against a guy like Garrett Wilson every day at practice? Obviously, both you guys super young, but already some of the best at your position in the NFL.

53:26What have you guys done to kind of push each other every single day and kind of get to that next step in your careers?

53:33Sauce Gardner:Man, just picking each other's brain. You know, Garrett asked me, yo, what you see from me with this? How do you know I was going to do this? And me being like, yo, how did you know I was playing this instead of this? Stuff like that, receiving that type of information is only going to make us better. And that's things that don't really require talent. You know, the talent is different. Like the talent is there when it comes to Garrett. He like a human joystick. He At the top of his routes and even at his releases like it's like he playing basketball out there You know when you're going against the guys like that, you know, it makes a little a little harder to guard them You know and me being able to go up against him when I go out there and play other guys that are a little bit Stiffer than him.

54:15Sauce Gardner:It just makes it much more easier and you know, not even just for Gary You know, we got a lot of other guys out there, you know, like Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, he had a pretty good, like, camp, you know. He's just been doing his thing as well, Xavier Gibson. It's a lot of, like, younger guys out there that's been really, you know, making a name for themselves even more, you know. Like, got a couple rookies out there that's been balling, you know. So, I'm excited, man. I'm excited for our offense. I'm excited for our defense and our special attention.

54:43Pat McAfee:All right, well, good luck this year. We can't wait to watch. Shout out to the Q caller, hopefully taking care of people. shout out to satoshi nakamoto too his legacy will live on for a long time into the future hey what are we doing with hair are you growing out um i actually just got it clipped a little bit

55:01Sauce Gardner:um it was getting a little too long and i never want to be a guy that um that has to get braids i don't think i would look good with braids so you know for for my for my shorty i feel like um I feel like this really good look okay, you know what I'm saying? I feel like this really look You know I did have thought I had thoughts before getting like a little Probably a little mullet, you know a little while ago. It's a good idea This this was a while ago though, you know what I'm saying? But now it's like, you know, I think I'm pretty I think I'm pretty good with this look right here You like I think that looks good.

55:36I think it's a good look. I think a mullet would look better.

55:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, mullet would be fucking awesome Yeah, what's that? I wanna see Grock make make sauce with a mullet Yeah, you can see what this would look like. Grok would create all these things. Can you make Sauce Gardner with a mullet? It might give you like a Connor mullet on there. Yeah, which also would work for you, I think. Yeah, something to think about. Maybe that whole thing. You look awesome. Hey, no problem. Good luck on everything. Obviously, contracts, huge thing that you've worked your entire life for. That's on its way. You keep kicking ass on the field, and in life, we'll just follow along and enjoy it all.

56:08Pat McAfee:You're the man, Sauce.

56:09Sauce Gardner:We appreciate y 'all, man. Thank you so much.

56:11Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Sauce Gardner. Yeah, Sauce. I don't know. We got Grok's first take on it. I don't know. I don't think you should do this. That's pretty good. I like it. Sauce, I don't think you should do that, Sauce. I don't think that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Shout out to Grok, though, for letting me see. Yeah, shout out to Grok. All right, we'll see you, dude. Appreciate you, Sauce. That looks good. As this hour wraps up, we will obviously prepare for the next hour. awesome. Lane Johnson, 115. They have the O-Line Mastermind Summit. Maybe a DB one comes up soon.

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58:36Pat McAfee:Sports are awesome. We're lucky to talk about them every single day. Shout out to Sauce Gardner joining us in the first hour. And Nigel Seeley, a British lad who covers betting with Betting Weekly. Game, bet, match to talk about Wimbledon and everything that's going on. A couple of American women names to look out for at Wimbledon as we go forward. Madison Keys, okay. Dog. In the women's bracket, if we listen to Nigel, who's a Brit who follows tennis and bets on tennis religiously and has been at these Wimbledon games and matches and everything like that, he says that about 20 women could win the women's side of Wimbledon.

59:11Pat McAfee:About two dudes can win the men's side of Wimbledon. So the women, I guess, are far more competitive. Also, when it comes to betting, you probably get some over on the women's side, even though a lot of the favorites have lost this year in the men's as well. And then Amanda Anasimova. Amanda Anasimova is an American who, when healthy, great. So there's a chance if America wins yet again. Coco Gauff won France. We also had an American win the other major that took place on the women's side. Madison Keys. Madison Keys. Okay, she's already won it in Australia, I believe. So we won an Australia major.

59:45Pat McAfee:And then we won in France with Coco Gauff. Now Wimbledon, there's a chance Amanda Anasimova gives the American sweep in women's tennis. Yeah! Which is certainly something we should celebrate on this 4th of July. Huge. Hell yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Hawker. Hawker, it's hard to understand that British accent, I will say. We're speaking the same language, but are we? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, we are, but yeah, I agree with you. When you had to follow up, say, not really sure what name you were saying there.

1:00:17But the crazy thing with Nigel saying that people are turning up not fit to Wimbledon. Like, this is the event. This is what we do.

1:00:23Pat McAfee:Have you seen how these, once again, you're a beautiful place, a lot of history. Seems like you guys got a lot going on over there right now. Let's figure that out. But also, feels like a beautiful place. Lucky that family comes from there, yada, yada. You know, we know the history over there. The way we've seen them handle heat, I think, is not good for their brand as a whole. Sure. Just, if we're just speaking from a sports standpoint, we're not talking about, maybe even humans as a whole over there that them saying what's hot like 87 degrees they're talking about like which is crazy though because they don't they don't use air conditioning like we do like they live in that stuff too like they're in buildings with barely any air conditioning is blazing it's just uncomfortable and terrible so stupid yeah i don't understand i don't know how there was a tweet also you can play any sport when i i'm sorry i don't want to go on a rant or here but when you talk about not being able to play games like two years from now in certain sports that don't wear pads.

1:01:24Like football players practice in Miami and do two and three days in full pads year after year, day after day after day and stuff. What you're referring to is a tweet that

1:01:35Pat McAfee:we saw in our group text that maybe people watching have no idea. I have no idea. This just got said three minutes ago. AJ saw this. I need to get this off my chest. The World Cup, there's been tweeted that the World Cup is going to be too hot over here. How do we know two years from now or a year from now that it's going to be too hot on that day, so we're going to move it to a 9 a.m. kickoff? With that being said, rest in peace. Thank you, Darius. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. We need DiNardo to give us the Doppler read on what it's going to be in the World Cup. But yeah, some of these temperatures are like 78 degrees.

1:02:10Pat McAfee:It's too hot. Just played a World Cup in Qatar. Yeah, it was 180. Give it a rest, dude. I'm tired of it. Juventus had 10 guys that wanted to get subbed off. Pack your shit. Real Madrid took you home. Get out. Okay, now that's a Canadian man right there. So he is used to colder temperatures as well. I guess Europe just doesn't experience this much. It does, though. It gets hot over there. It's 97 in Germany right now. I've been there. It's been hot. Look, Tony brought it up already. I've been used up every time I've been over there. I don't think I know exactly the temperature I know. I've been to Parthelon.

1:02:40Pat McAfee:It was super hot. I got a sunburn in March in London, right? Was it Sunberg? Scotland even more so. So what's the deal? They just got super-duper arenas? Every arena they play in has the incredible— No, they're all outdoor. I mean, yeah, Tony already brought it up. Two of the most pivotal moments in history, who they call on. Usually people need help. I think. In this situation, it feels as though they're looking for someone to go over there and fix all their problems with the heat. I mean, God bless America. Happy birthday, America, and everything like that. We love Europe, but this whole heat thing that you guys are doing, it's like we get it.

1:03:18Pat McAfee:It's hot, but we're doing the sport. We're playing. Grow up. We've been playing these sports for hundreds of years, thousands sometimes. I do love AJ's first thought. So you're talking about three days in football pads down in South Miami, down in South Florida. You've got like fifth graders doing that. Not anymore, I don't think. Not three days, but they're out there in full pads going for two hours. It's not easy. Uh, yes, we would like to do that. Uh, okay. We're going to Europe? We're pivoting away from Europe. Okay. And we're going to basketball. Nice. Okay. Hold. Okay. Now we wait. What do you think this news is?

1:04:04What do you think breaking news is? You said basketball? Yeah. I was, what I thought it was, was Jim Cantore coming on and talking weather. Okay, so we, okay. That might be it. Yeah, that'd be sick. If it's basketball, just given everything, it's not going to be Giannis, I don't think. I'm going to go Malik Beasley. Okay. LeBron.

1:04:22Pat McAfee:Okay. LeBron coming to the Pacers. That'd be sick. Holy shit. Is that about to happen? Oh, no. AJ, what is your name? LeBron to the Cavs. LeBron to the Cavs again. Okay, I like that. That's a guy from Ohio. Yeah. This is a guy who lives half his life in Indiana. ladies and gentlemen joining us now is senior NBA insider for ESPN Sean Sharanya Sean we have news the New York Knicks are expected to land on two time NBA head coach Mike Brown as a franchise's next head coach and so the Knicks are set to hire Mike Brown he's won two NBA coach of the year awards he's a four time champion as an assistant.

1:05:10I'm literally breaking this while I am on with you right now. And so, Leon Rose, Knicks president, we know he interviewed a handful of candidates. Taylor Jenkins was in play as well. Micah Norrie, the Minnesota Terminal assistant, Grizzlies assistant, in play. So, we have just tapped in here with you guys to announce Mike Brown is expected to be the next Knicks head coach. He's a four-time champion. He's interviewed. He's also coached a ton of star players throughout his entire NBA coaching career.

1:05:48Pat McAfee:Congrats to the Knicks and to Mike Brown. Obviously, the Knicks have gone through a draft and free agency and everything without a coach. That is obviously a storyline that people have been dunking on the Knicks for. You guys make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. You have your best year you've had in a long time you decide to fire your coach and seemingly have no plan on the other side of it there's a lot of names that were getting thrown out there there was some time that took place bringing in a champion and a guy that has had to lead a program before i think is probably a good decision uh i i don't know how knicks fans will react to this let's go to the back bruce brown mike brown now head coach of the new york knicks uh how do you think new york faithful will feel about this?

1:06:30Let's go. I'm fired up. I'm a two-time coach of the year coming in. I think his reputation might be a little bit down after the ending in Sacramento. But from my perspective, Thibodeau came in with a bit of a damaged reputation and he brought us to the Eastern Conference Finals and built us into a perennial contender moving forward.

1:06:49Pat McAfee:Love the positivity. Shams, you can do your tweet. I saw you trying to do that while you were talking to us. We appreciate you. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you, Shams. That was incredible work out of you. The Knicks get a seasoned coach and no name. I think that's a big deal whenever you're going to New York. Yeah, for sure. For immediate respect, when he walks into that locker room, and I don't know if you remember the video of Mike Brown. I believe he was the head coach of the Sacramento Kings at the time. He's running in practice. Yeah, you know, he's going to get in the trenches in between the lines with the guys.

1:07:14He's going to run sprints, much like MCDC out there. But he brings an attitude. I know a defensive-minded coach, once again, just like Tibbs was. But it's going to be about how they buy into him and how the stars play with him, starting with Jalen Brunson up there, big body Brunson, Brunson, Burn or whatever we want to call him. It always starts with your star players and keeping that. But Mike Brown, he brings that attitude and he has that instant credibility. So this is good for Mike Brown laying on his feet.

1:07:39Pat McAfee:Good for the Knicks just having a coach, AJ. That was getting a little bit ridiculous. It felt like just as somebody that is not an NBA insider or NBA coverer, it was like the team in the biggest market in the Mecca with such a storied franchise has been not good for too long, you know? and then they get into the storyline. We happen to be a part of it with the Indiana Pacers and it's like Ben Stiller's out here, Timothy Chalamet's out here, Spike's out. It's good for all sports whenever the New York teams are good and then we see what happens. They get good and then they fire the coach. It's like, what are you guys doing, man?

1:08:14Pat McAfee:And then from outside looking in, they got no plan. Like we're going to send, we're just going to ask every team if we can fucking treat them like a mid-major. We're going to hire their coach. Like that is, hey, what's going on? congratulations to your coach the New York Knicks would now like to interview uh them to be our head coach and like what six teams are like no that is not how this is going to go so they obviously got mocked and ridiculed it's like they finally get a head coach seems like that team is going to be good regardless and uh maybe a new voice in there is the thing that takes them over the hump maybe it's Mike Brown well and like the way it ended in Sacramento to Bruce's point completely valid sure but they also completely blew up that team and if there was a franchise that hasn't won in a while that actually did turn around it's sacramento i don't think sacramento's ever been good in my life except for when uh mike brown was there and you can go back to baby and vladi and those boys too but that was yeah white child a long time ago and so for him i think they were the three seed two or three years ago in the west yeah and we've talked about how good the west is So he's had success in the West.

1:09:17I feel like this is great for the Knicks. It is just kind of your point. You know, he's had no say in any of the free agents or draft picks that they just did. So who knows if that means anything. But I assume he'll just – there's some agreement like, hey, you know, your style works here. Stick to your style. And let's go back to the Eastern Conference Finals. I mean, I'd be pumped. At least you got a dude who's proven it's not something, you know, first you got no idea what's happening.

1:09:41Pat McAfee:I think it's a big market. Obviously, anytime you coach anything in New York, Mike will be ready for that, AJ. He's no stranger to any of it. No, he gets it. But also, it's a great spot for Mike Brown. Usually when you get hired as a head coach, the team's garbage, and it's like a rebuild where they're just terrible. So, no, we know the Knicks have a deep playoff run, fire their coach unexpectedly, in my eyes. So, yeah, for Mike Brown, great situation. Hope we can go in there and win. That Knicks, if Jalen Brunson's just going to make every shot that he takes, I mean, they're going to be good for a long time.

1:10:10Pat McAfee:Just watching them play, that was a cool moment. But we need to go to more games because whenever you see these games live, there's a lot different conversation you want to have. Like, for instance, everybody is so tall. Kevin Durian. They all play so hard, too. It feels like they play very, very hard. And they run so much. It's just gassers and gassers. Like, nobody talks about NBA guys' cardio. The cardio is never talked about. It's always, like, the travel, the sleep schedule, the body rest. It's like they got to be cardiovascularly fit. And they're very, very, very big. They are all very large.

1:10:44Pat McAfee:Kevin Durant, LeBron, and Steve Nash had a great Mind the Game podcast. So many clips coming out of that. And they talked about how if you're 6 '6", Kevin Durant basically was like, I don't know anymore. Like, T.J. McConnell's been able to make it because he's just absolute dirt dog out there on the offense and defensive side. There was a couple other guys he mentioned that could make it. He said, but with how tall everybody's getting right now, we just call you out, basically. He said, on the defensive side, we were just going to attack the 6 '4", but tall guy, and we're going to play over their head until they stop it and then we kind of move on.

1:11:16Pat McAfee:That is watching the Knicks. Jalen, obviously another one of those guys, undersized, but obviously an absolute dog. It's like so big, run so much, and they seemingly made every shot. Now the Pacers better, obviously. We won that series. No big deal, you know that in your garden, Mike. That in your garden over there. But it's like that Knicks team's the real deal. Yeah. And Mike might be able to get them all in line. That'll be the biggest thing for them is some ball movement because Jalen Brunson is a dominant. He's kind of an offensive savant when it comes to one-on-one, and it's more impressive because of how small he is and the type of big guys that he's doing it against.

1:11:53But you need that type of ball movement. And where Mike Brown won a bunch of those championships out in Golden State, that's what they do better than probably anybody. Steph is obviously he has the handles. He does that. But Steph running through picks and just running around. So being able to have that ball movement. And then obviously at some point your superstar got to have court cleared out, make a big-time shot. But ball movement, defense, and hopefully Mike Brown, like AJ said, you're walking into a pretty good situation with good players on the roster already. And hopefully you get that support to go out there and actually win in what they call the mecca of basketball.

1:12:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, Madison Square Garden was electrifying during that playoff series, let alone all the time. Mike Brown might be the one to lead them all the way. Might be. See? No. Yeah, we'll see what happens. What in East? There's no Tatum. There's no Halliburton. Obviously, there's going to be good teams. Yeah, there's a few. We'll see. West is still the West. But to your point about kind of the size thing, it's like if you go back to Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas was 5 '9", 5 '10", and he could score 30 points a game. But every single time when he was on the Celtics, the other team would come down and it would be, okay, let's move the ball.

1:12:58Who's Isaiah Thomas on? Go.

1:13:00Pat McAfee:Every single time. And he'd get marked. That's a tough spot to be, especially if you literally cannot defend it. Yeah, yeah. Did Steph do? Yeah, Steph. Steph, 6 '4". Kyrie. You know, like Trey Young is a perfect example. Trey Young, you know, probably 6 '1", 6 '2", and he can shoot it from 40 feet. So, you know, he's a super max player. But that's the only reason he's a super max player on defense. You know, it's just not the same. I would highly recommend listening to LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and Steve Nash talk while they're boozing. Yeah. That was good. Great conversation. All the clips that I've seen have been incredible conversation.

1:13:36Pat McAfee:And it's like I appreciate the fact that KD is not scared to, like, talk yeah you know or tweet like we're talking or tweet i mean just talk shit at some guy named drew's got 25 followers i mean it had to get it had to be done had to be done uh it's that's a great show i appreciate who is coming in there having some wine and opening up and talking it's like i know that the sports journalists don't love athletes getting into the media world as much as we have and everything like that but like getting a chance to learn from the greats about why they're great and how they're great and like the way they view it i feel like that's a little bit of journalism in the sports world as well that's a pretty good piece of information to have and lebron is going to get things out of kevin durant and steve nash is going to get things out of kevin durant and ask questions that only motherfuckers at that level can really understand it's great time right now of information that we're in yeah one of the things lebron talked about with kd was efficiency and like how uh you know kd has shot over 50 from the field since 2012 or something absurd of that nature and then he went into like the examples where after a game you know he'll look and like sometimes he'll be six of 18 or nine of 23 and you know seeing how lebron thinks about efficiency as being one of the most important things when normally you go to the box score oh you know sga's got 40 points and i'm not saying sga would do this but sga's got 40 points but he's you know 10 to 25 and i feel like as a you know not a professional basketball player you see 40 points that's awesome even if they are 10 of 25 at whatever but the way they view it is 15 wasted possessions exactly like lebron thinking of it more as yeah well i missed 12 shots i made six shots and the fact that kd has for i don't know four 13 straight years or 11 straight years whatever it is with the achilles has been 9 to 18 or better damn near every single game it's just outrageous and i've told the story numerous times because i think it's a good piece of information to have about kevin durant whenever you think about kevin durant however you think about kevin durant At Texas, he donated a shit ton of money back to the university they played.

1:15:41Pat McAfee:They built a practice facility. Obviously, he goes in there and works. It's been the same equipment manager, I guess, since he was playing there, is still there, guy's been around. And he said Kevin Durant has these workouts where he will restart the entire shooting. We're talking like thousands of shots at this point. He'll restart if the swish isn't the right sound. Lights are off. If it's not the right swish sound, he's restarting. It's like you're talking about an absolute dog when it comes to work ethic. We talk about competitive juice and stamina. It's like, and I also love the fact he's not scared to get a little Twitter finger in there once in a while.

1:16:15Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a two-time, two-time Super Bowl champion.

1:16:21Pat McAfee:He's also an all-pro. He's been named to like all-century teams, all-decade teams because of how damn good he is. And the refs are trying to catch whether or not he's leaving a little early or if he's right on time. In his eyes, he's right on time. He's going to be telling other offensive linemen they need to be right on time as well at the 8th Annual O-Line Mastermind Summit happening July 10th through the 11th down in Frisco, Texas, alongside Duke Manyweather. Ladies and gentlemen, Lane Johnson. Yeah, Lane. How you doing, dude? Doing good, man. Just got done with the workout, but ready to get online and get these fingers working about the false starts.

1:17:00That's the flags I should have got past season.

1:17:04Pat McAfee:You're going to get your Kevin Durant on? Yeah, go ahead and answer a little bit. That became a full talking point. Obviously, you knew that. I think we've chatted about it a little bit. And they're zooming in on your big, I don't want to say, your massive cleat. And that's the blur. It's a blur every single time. And they're like, is he early or is it on time? Right on time, every time. Lane, let's talk about this O-Line Mastermind Summit that you've been doing. Eight years now of big boys talking about moving other men down there in Texas. What is expected from this weekend? And how excited do you get to share your game with others and maybe younger offense alignment?

1:17:40Super excited. So when we started this, we had around 27 people. Last year was around 300. But it started, I remember, you know, going through the draft, didn't know much about the position or who was really good at it. So it was just a way to get everybody in the room. A lot of college double guys are in now to just learn ball. We have Joe Thomas coming in. So I think I learned a lot about getting off the ball from him, Jason Peters. So it's turning into a lot of fun, but a lot of Hall of Famers. And yeah, man, two days of just learning the game a little bit better.

1:18:18Pat McAfee:So much beer. Go ahead, AJ. So are you guys – So much beer. I couldn't even – sorry, I don't want to cut you off. I couldn't even fathom in O-Line Summit the amount of beer. Go ahead, AJ. Sorry. Well, yeah, I would assume you guys might have a beer sponsor. I know Tight End U has a beer sponsor. I don't know if you guys have that yet or not, Lane. If not, you guys can work on it. But other than film and, like, meeting and watching stuff and trying to explain things, how much stuff are you doing on the field and how much work can you get in? Because I instantly think of these, like, high school camps.

1:18:46I don't know if you've seen these clips where they're doing O-Line, D-Line, one-on-one, and D-Line are bull rushing dudes with no pads on. and I would lose my mind. I can't imagine how you feel watching that. Are you guys doing that? Are you guys getting any one-on-ones in out there? Man, it's fun to watch. But, yeah, I mean, what we do, we watch a lot of film, break that down, and then we'll have breakout sessions. So, where we're going on the field and a lot of what we're talking about is about pre-snap alignment, what type of pass set are we trying to achieve here, if it's a run play, inside zone, outside zone, mostly just footwork.

1:19:20So a little bit of physical stuff, but a lot of it's just talking through kind of what we broke down in the film session. And then a lot of it's just kind of about structure and routine, you know, how guys went about their week and stuff that they worked on. So it's really cool to see just different guys, you know, different decades and kind of how they approach the game.

1:19:41Pat McAfee:Learning just a schedule from somebody that's done it at a high level and Mount Rushmore-like level is such a great piece of information to have as a young player, like how you can view it and what has been tried and true, what has worked for somebody else while you kind of script it for yourself. You know, there's a Hall of Fame game this month, the NFL season's right around the corner. D-Butt has a question for you, Lane. Yeah, you had a short offseason, you know, minute you win and won that Super Bowl championship, going into year 13, I believe. How does the body feel and what has changed with your preparation going into these seasons from the time you came into the league up until now?

1:20:18Yeah, so me, I mean, it's about maintaining strength, but really, you know, not neglecting mobility. You know, as you see players age, they'll lose kind of their elasticity, their ability to generate force. So for me, I'm lifting heavy earlier in the week. Later in the week, it's kind of lighter weight for speed. And then the plyometrics and all that good stuff. So, man, it's just, you know, I think just being consistent with it. And really, like, after every season, you evaluate kind of where your body is and what you need to work on. So, you know, every year is different. But, I mean, I'm feeling good.

1:20:49I mean, I made a statement. I feel better now kind of in my mid-30s than what I did. When I was 30, I was going through an ankle issue, so surgery. So, you know, it takes a little bit to bounce back from that.

1:21:02Pat McAfee:13 years in at offensive line, especially at the runs that you guys have had while you play football, congratulations dude you big fuck yeah legit that is that is an outrageous feat the amount of attention that you have to spend on your body to make it and continue to be able to operate your joints are screaming for help every single time you do everything now uh ty has a question for you lane yeah lane i don't know how much you guys paid attention to it in like the locker room last year but we talked about it all year long about how you know no matter what you guys were doing early in the season and even at the midway point coach sirianni was getting kind of shit on on you know every network pretty much hey this guy is one of the worst coaches in the nfl he's just in a great situation the eagles win in spite of him etc etc they always said you know when it came to the playoffs like he was going to be the reason that you guys ultimately lost and then obviously fast forward you win the super bowl um what kind of vindication did you notice like from him obviously we saw him post game and he was just elated he was incredible telling guys hey let's run it back and all that kind of stuff but what was kind of that whole situation like throughout the season and then obviously as you win the Super Bowl yeah I mean um you know when he's got emotional on the sidelines or or screaming at guys you know the good thing about it is we go and talk about it the next team meeting uh after a game but you know I think for him he's evolved as a head coach.

1:22:26He's kind of learning as he goes, but, you know, what I do enjoy about coach is that everybody's held accountable, you know, whether it goes to the film room, if it's a bad play by the player, if it's a bad call by the coach, their name or number is up there, and then just anything that, you know, goes, you know, kind of out to the public, you know, we address as a team, so some of those hard conversations that are difficult to have, we have them, and we put it behind us, and And really, I think it's probably one of Coach's best traits is, you know, he's a great communicator.

1:22:59Pat McAfee:Feels like you all rally around him. You know, on the offensive side, first time, long time. I think you guys chose 150 more rushing plays than you did passing plays on the entire season, I think was the number. It's like first time, long time that had been a case in the NFL and especially a team that will go on to win the Super Bowl. But you paid wide receivers. So whenever you talk about becoming a run-first-run dominant team with Saquon, who's outrageous, I can't wait to ask you about him, but also you've paid wide receivers, there's a natural potential very big situation that could occur because the wide receivers understand that for the team this is what's good, but my job is to catch balls, and that's my legacy, and that's how much money I'm going to get paid, and that's how I'm remembered.

1:23:41Pat McAfee:And then whenever you guys win, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith were the ones that dumped the Gatorade on Sirianni. It's like he had to manage that, I would assume, just in and of itself. let alone everything else. Let's talk about the run game. So Saquon is just outrageous. Yeah. Like you guys, go ahead. Yeah. I mean, what you're talking about, there's just a lot of avenues. We have so many star players and, uh, you know, if we wanted to throw the ball 60 times a game, you know, our receivers could have 2000 yards, uh, but we have a running back, you know, that can get that on the ground. So I just think, you know, what Saquon was able to bring to our offense made everything so much easier.

1:24:17When you have a running back that can do that it sets up play action um and when they want to stop the run you know you're gonna have to play one-on-one with uh aj and devontae outside so you know first thing i noticed about saquon is just he's a super uh super good dude so he made friends really quickly he's uh i don't think he misses a day on the golf course so if he's not he's not in the facility he's golfing with somebody um so yeah that's his other passion but yeah i mean it took me about three minutes in the green bay game to go this is gonna be a pretty fun year yeah it was uh it was something you know never thought he'd be on my team you know he is now so let's make the most of it so it's been a

1:24:57Pat McAfee:lot of fun yeah it might have taken you three minutes i think he it might have taken him about 10 seconds to realize oh this is gonna be great over here as opposed to what i got going on with your offensive line i think if it was just yards before contact that he rushed for this year he would have been like a top 10 rusher in the nfl as well he was not touched for a long time with your guys's help in scheme and everything and with his speed he was able to just break everything the amount of home run touchdowns that he had this year historic record breaking he was explosive on the ground a team hasn't been like that i don't know maybe ever i mean maybe y2j when tennessee tightness had but it was chris johnson yeah you know i think what made our whole line different was man i'm a pretty big dude and i was the second smallest so uh goes from cam me and then it was you know, Makai, Landon, and Jordan Malata, I guess, you know, whoever was eating the most that week weighed the most, but they're all 360, 70, 80-plus.

1:25:50So it's just, you know, you don't have those kind of guys that come around that often. So, yeah, we just try to stay out of the way and don't get hurt.

1:25:58Pat McAfee:Yeah, stay out of the way, don't get hurt, and move bodies in record-breaking fashion. On that note, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Lane, another guy that doesn't come around too often is a coach, like Jeff Stoutland. Can you talk about him a little bit? because it feels like he is kind of turning into a legend. Everything Jason Kelsey mentioned when he retired with Jeff and everything he's done for his career. And then, of course, you mentioned Makai. Makai Becton kind of ended up with the Eagles, and then Stoutland turns him into an all-pro right guard playing right next to you. Can you just talk about Stoutland, what he kind of means to the team, that O-line in general?

1:26:35And also, please keep growing that beard out because it looks unbelievable right now.

1:26:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, very stout. That beard looks very stout, like stout. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's hard to find barbers back here. Usually when I'm back up in Philly, I'll slide in the team's barber and just get a cheaper one. Don't do it. Smart. Yeah, Coach Stout, man, we've been very fortunate to have him. He came in the same year as I did in 13 from Alabama. But, you know, he kind of has the intensity of Al Pacino, any given Sunday locker room speech. He kind of has that vibe. But, you know, I think what makes him so great is that he realizes is that people learn differently. So some people, guys on the team, really respond to walkthroughs as much as, you know, sit in the classroom.

1:27:16But he finds a way to keep it fun, engaging. And, you know, I think what makes him so good as well is, you know, any guy that's had to come in, a backup. You know, we've had many playing past Super Bowls, but every guy that's stepped up is treated like a starter. And it doesn't matter where he is on the depth chart. Every guy is treated the same. And, yeah, man, we have a lot of fun. whenever we're in the room and we work whenever we're out there on the field. But, man, he is a character. If you ever get a chance, I think Hard Knocks might be coming in this season. So I hope that they can hide that camera in there.

1:27:51I think it will make some really good content.

1:27:54Pat McAfee:Okay, so we got some Stotland magic coming through Hard Knocks and obviously your guys' offensive line and him obviously being spotlighted in a big way. In such a big way that awards even get talked about. Tone Diggs has a question for you, Lane. Yeah, Lane, obviously you won the Super Bowl, Pro Bowl, All-Pro, but I'm not sure if you know this or not. You won one of the most prestigious awards in sports. A.Q. Shipley named you the best tackle of the year for the Trenches last year. Congratulations. This is months ago. Hey, I want to get that trophy. Put it in the locker room. Put it somewhere.

1:28:30Put it in the gym. Okay, we have it, actually. We're waiting for the address to send it to.

1:28:34Pat McAfee:That is A.T. Shipley at 390 pounds as a fullback, a leader of a wedge on the kickoff return, and a center in guard for the Arizona Cardinals. He actually would roll on his gut at the snap of the ball, and he was doing that tush push before everybody else. He was gnawing on ankles. So it's a real award, and we were waiting for an address. You won it for best tackle. You did, so congratulations on that. Just wanted to let you know. Well-earned. It was a hard-fought game. There's a lot of names out there. You already know Deion was pissed. Deion Dawkins was not happy about it. There were some others, obviously.

1:29:12The NFL stole that idea. Now there's the actual Protector of the Year Award. How do you feel about that? Well, it's taken them long enough to get something in the mix. You know, thankful for Deion for stepping up. But, you know, we have guys like Witt and Kels, of course, making statements for the O-line community. Yeah, man, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah, man, I'm glad that it's finally a thing now. Shout out to Deion for getting it all started.

1:29:41Pat McAfee:It's the clear, like it is literally the clear indicator on who's going to win the game. Oh, yeah. Like if you have a bad offensive line, you're going to lose the game. You might win a couple games. I'm just talking, you're not going to win. Yeah. You are going to win the game with your offensive line. You guys proved that. I assume many other teams in the past have, but I think it was more talked about this year than ever. It matters. You guys matter. And it's a talent, brother. Not everybody can do it, obviously. Yeah, and you know how it is when it comes to practice. You usually have the O-line, D-line doing their own thing, seven on seven specialists.

1:30:12So y 'all kind of get in the mix a little bit. But, yeah, it's really two different games out there. But, you know, I'm glad they're getting an award out now.

1:30:21Pat McAfee:Have you been fishing? We've been hunting? What have we got going on this offseason? Growing a beard? Yeah, growing a beard. Man, taking the kids to jujitsu, soccer, tumbling. So just a lot of – yeah, a lot of daddy daycare around here. Are you jujitsuing in there? Yeah, I'm in Oklahoma City in Austin. Are you jujitsuing in there? No, I stay out. I don't want to get Rexquandoed in there, so I kind of just hang out on the bleachers. Smart. Way to get back to the game with this O-Line Mastermind Summit. Congrats on becoming a Super Bowl champion again, and we can't wait to watch you play this year, brother.

1:30:53Thank you. I want to shout out Portillo's for sponsoring us there at Cosm for food. So, yeah, it's going to be an exciting one this year. I'm excited to get Joe and some of the guys out. So it'll be huge.

1:31:05Pat McAfee:Portillo's down there at Cosm in Dallas. Wow. Hey, that Cosm's that sick, that awesome. And you're going to eat Portillo's. Is that Italian beef sandwiches? Is that? You're telling me that's the greatest coming together right there. Yeah. That's O-Line Magic Mines. Yeah, we might have a little bit of some snow cones, some whiskey there too. Play, play, play. Yeah, just a huge party. All right. Well, good luck. Enjoy it all. It's a lot of meat, a lot of booze, and a lot of information seemingly being tossed around from one big man to the next. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, future Hall of Famer, Lane Johnson.

1:31:41Pat McAfee:Yay! Thank you, Lane. Thank you, Lane. So much booze. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. So much. They're just skipping beer, it sounds like. I've had the opportunity, obviously, to hang out with multiple different offensive lines. You know? Because I, too, fancied myself a beer drinker. And they do. They did, at least. I don't know about nowadays. I don't know because where beer is. I hope so. I hope. I think I would want my offensive line to do that in this day and age. I don't know if it's every offensive line. I think back in the day, my understanding it was every offensive line was basically the same group of people.

1:32:13Pat McAfee:Pretty miserable bunch. Kind of funny. Definitely love beer. Secret society. Yeah. yep exactly they know they all understand what it is but boy they used to they used to house alcohol i mean it was going out with them would be like um i think that would be the representative of the football team so people would be like don't end up at the rugby house or the hockey house wrestling the wrestling house like each of those houses had different uh endings you know and how it went all we kind of understood what it was for football it's like i think good place to send if you want to just go with the offensive line.

1:32:49Pat McAfee:The offensive line will kind of do this. I couldn't even fathom an O-line mastermind summit with different generations of offensive linemen. Because when they get together, it becomes, you know, I think. There has to be thousands of beers, I assume. I saw, and he's probably going to do it. I think it was Landon Dickerson ripping a top of a beer can off with his teeth and then just taking that down. Yeah, the offensive linemen are just a little bit different, you know. They're built different. Incredibly athletic, too. especially nowadays, because everybody's talking about the D-line, and you need four first-rounders on the D-line, speed to get around the edge.

1:33:22Pat McAfee:You've got a lot of one-on-ones out there. So it used to be like center guard, a little bit more unathletic, but big, can move bodies, didn't really have the best feet. Now you've got nose tackles, D-tackles that are shaking. You have to be able to. Taylor Carter. Yeah, you kind of have to be able to. Yeah, exactly. On that team. He's 3-what, 70? 360? Massive. And he can move and shake. It's outrageous. The offensive line has to be good. And the Philadelphia Eagles had the best in the game, AJ. Yeah, I mean, even speaking about athleticism, Lane played quarterback when he first got to college, right?

1:33:57Before he went to Oklahoma, he was still playing quarterback. Yeah, the guy's a freak athlete. I think he could jump. Oh, yeah. He went to Oklahoma as a quarterback? Yeah, I think so. No, he went to a community college. Oh, okay. Wow. But he was like an all-state high school quarterback. Unbelievable.

1:34:16Pat McAfee:Those are guys you won't watch Maybe you get ahead of schedule here And you buy some tickets The next NFL season We are in the same month as an NFL game Now is it an actual NFL game? No Yes it is The NFL uniforms will be on the field And you can bet on it And it's NFL bingo MCTC and Harbaugh baby They're both there They're coaching the teams Quarterbacks we know Is David Brown playing? It's going to be Trey Lance versus who's your – Hendon Hooker, hopefully. Okay, we know these guys. Maybe Kyle Allen. Yeah, but they'll play what, 10 snaps probably because we know who they are. They probably won't play.

1:34:56Pat McAfee:But anyways, yeah, Hendon Hooker probably not debuting in a Hall of Fame game. I doubt it. He's definitely – Anyways, it's a Hall of Fame though. We're celebrating the next class of the Hall of Fame. Hell yeah. You can enjoy, obviously, the game, which we will be doing. Certainly. We will be there. Hey, we're going to be there. Whoa. Yeah. We're going to be there. I think we're getting a real setup over there to kick off the entire NFL season. Why not buy some tickets? Why not get$30 off the tickets at SeatGeek? Why not download SeatGeek and say, you know what? I have the greatest ticket-buying platform on planet Earth and the moon readily available right now because they're a ticket-buying platform that looks out for you, AJ.

1:35:34Pat McAfee:You know what I mean? Yeah, they do. They think to themselves, how can we help our customers? Whether they're returning or new, we like to help these people. So what they do is they score each ticket 1 to 10. They give it a 1 to 10 score. What is that 1 to 10 scoring off of? Well, are you getting ripped off? Is this way too expensive of a ticket on a secondary market? You could get a cheaper one somewhere else. Is the placement of this ticket absolute shite? Is this an absolute shite ticket? They'll score you 1 to 10 on those types of things. If it's a red dot next to the ticket, it's like SeatGeek's telling you, yes, we are selling this ticket, but you can get a better ticket.

1:36:09Pat McAfee:You can definitely get a better ticket. If it's a green dot next to it, it's like, hey, our research has told us it's a good price for the ticket that you're getting and should be a great experience. You'll never get catfished. Right now, you can get$30 off using code PAT. That's got to be the easiest promo code in the history. P-A-T. $30 off any ticket. Now, there are some restrictions that apply. Connor, what are those? Well, you know, if a game is$20 to get a ticket, then you're not going to get$10 back, okay? You're not getting paid from Seek. Yeah, I don't think you can use this on tickets that are less than$30, maybe less than$50.

1:36:44Pat McAfee:We're not 100 % sure what the restrictions are, but we do know that you can't just use this as a line of credit. Yeah, it might turn into like 30 % instead of$30. They have tickets to everything. They do. Derby. Oh, it's coming right up. Home run Derby. Going to be incredible. Cannot wait for that. Game tonight. Big time game tonight. Huge game tonight. Except everything sold out? Yeah, soccer's happening tonight. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got tickets to that. Comedy, music. What? Festivals. Why? And they rank every ticket? No, they don't rank. Yeah, they score every ticket. Every seat. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

1:37:17Pat McAfee:I wonder if they do have, hey, this is the best ticket on our app right now. I think they do. For what? The event? Yeah. It's good. Shout out to Seeky. It's great. It is great. Shout out to U.S. men's national team, which you were talking about, game tonight. Yeah, here we go. They take on Guatemala in the Super Duper Cup. AJ, your thoughts on tonight's matchup? Well, you know, Nigel, the British gentleman earlier, made me worry a little bit. He said, we can't have a 2-2 tie to whoever they played last game, right? Wow, that was pretty good. Did I just hear an English man on the call? Nigel back on the phone?

1:37:48He took it like it wasn't a win for us. Like, yeah, we won in a shootout. Like, does that not count?

1:37:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, it does. There's no overtime possibility. As soon as the game's over, they get to go right to penalties because that's basically how soccer should be, by the way. Well, nobody really knows when the game is over either, other than one guy on the field. Yeah, it could be a lady too, obviously, but we know what you're saying in the entirety of it. Tonight against Guatemala, what should we be looking for other than a way around Nigel's negative vibes? Host of the Concafa pod, Bubba Gumpino. This should be an absolute shite kicking tonight. Guatemala shouldn't stand a chance, and I'd expect probably a snipe from Malik Tillman, if I had to guess.

1:38:26Pat McAfee:Okay, I like what you just said right there. Gumpy's never that positive about anything ever. No. Okay, so the fact that the United States are taking on Guatemala tonight and an opportunity to get to the finals of the Golden. They better win by 10 or Gumpy's going to be in a real tough mood tomorrow. I'm worried. This place is sold out. Congrats. Congrats. Let's go, boys. Let's not concede tonight. No conceding. No conceding. If we concede, I'm going to lose my mind, man. Are you going to watch D-Butch? Of course. I'm worried. I'm honestly worried because, to your point, I never hear Gump that positive about anything, so that can't work out.

1:38:58Pat McAfee:No, that means he knows. Sold out barn, dude. St. Louis. Are you trying to get us to lose because Canada lost? What are you talking about? We're in a USA tarp the other day. Guatemala kind of parks the bus. Guatemala's good. Guatemala parks the bus? They're a good side. Don't worry. They only beat Canada because they got a red car. Canada got a red car. No, they beat Canada because they parked the booths like there was no tomorrow. Well, when they parked the booths, you can look for a cagey affair. And if tonight's a cagey affair, that's not good for soccer as a whole. And Poncha's boys don't want a cagey affair.

1:39:28Pat McAfee:No. We attack. All these tournaments have been bangers every game. Last night, another banger. Dortmund-Monterey 2-1. I guess even that 10-1 game was pretty cool, too. That's the team that did the stay inside. It's too hot out there. Dortmund. Oh, yeah. We like Dortmund. Remember, Dortmund was nice to us. They were nice. They were very nice. They got us beers. They made you pay$100 ,000. And then they paid you back that night? Yeah. It was actually AJ had to pay for the beers. It was two beers for like$58. But, yeah, the Dortmund guys were great. They were great. All right. so United States of America tonight we ride yeah joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who's about to ride a dynasty I guess for the next 10 years we got a chance to chat with him after they won their second Stanley Cup in two years and then what he has done during free agency is somehow do something that isn't legal we don't know what it is we're not privy to the information but somehow the back to back Stanley Cup champions had been able to sign their entire team until 2031.

1:40:32Pat McAfee:The man that did that, friend of the program, Yinzer, Bill Zeta. Yeah, Bill! Bill!

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1:42:24Pat McAfee:Some of us who are maybe Pittsburgh Penguins fans or Boston Bruins fans or maybe any other team in the entire NHL were thinking there's no way they're going to be able to keep this team together. A lot of greatness is going to be leaving Florida. Bill Zito is going to have to rebuild this thing. Instead, you get deals done with basically every star that was potentially out. You got MVPs back in the building and you keep your core that has been so damn dominant over the last three years. How'd you get it done? And was this what you were expecting going into offseason. I think you felt very optimistic when you chatted with us, but as it takes place, how does it kind of all unfold?

1:43:00It's really the guys. It has very little to do with me. They wanted to stay. I think they appreciated each other. They appreciated the opportunity that they have. I do think that they appreciate all that the coaching staff and ownership does to allow us to try to do things the right way. But ultimately, they're staying because of them and because of their teammates. And that's really the only reason. And it does make you feel good to be able to have the privilege to be part of it.

1:43:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, be a part of it, be a massive piece of kind of putting everybody in the same room and letting them deal with it. Empowering others is also a great display of leadership in your team. I think we talked to Gary Bettman the other day. I think every hockey person I talked to, the way your team plays hockey is one that I think all hockey people respect and appreciate as well. On that note, the way hockey people celebrate is also something we all appreciate and respect. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Bill, you talked about, you just said it's because of the boys and what they wanted. How much did it help with negotiations that they were hammered the entire time and then they were just kept...

1:44:05Yeah, that was good. They just kept yelling, I'm not fucking leaving. That helped? It was great that they did it. When you watched them i think i wasn't there i was like you guys but um you know they really enjoyed their time together they enjoy their celebration with the cup um and it is kind of a theme through our group you know you can make fun of situations you can make fun of yourself um you know i always talk about how kind everybody is to each other well in tandem with that um it's it's a pretty sporty room and just lots of fun, lots of gags, dark humor, light humor. But don't take it too seriously.

1:44:45So it was great. Pretty sporty room. That's a good way to describe a group. I'm the victim of that sport, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. And that's the ones I know about.

1:44:58Pat McAfee:Well, you're buying them dinner, though, on the road, and they're all eating together. It feels like that sporty room is what everybody is looking for in hockey. Go ahead, AJ. Bill, yeah, have you talked to anybody or studied teams that have had the success that you have had, obviously, two cups in three years, everything you're doing, too? How do you continue this? How do you keep it going? We know how difficult it is. Like, consistent success in professional sports is very, very difficult. Have you began to, I guess, look around like, hey, who can I talk to? What can I do to make sure we keep this thing the way we have it, we keep getting better?

1:45:29Yeah, and I should actually probably reach out to you. So then after you win it in Green Bay, then how do you keep? We didn't, unfortunately. Oh, you weren't there when you wanted? I was there, but I'm saying we should have won four. We had Aaron Rodgers. We should have won a lot more. So I talk to a lot of people, a lot of people in hockey, a lot of people across other sports, and just try to learn as much as I can. The biggest thing was more from the coaching level as to how to keep, how to understand, I guess, what people call the hangover, if you will, and then at the same time appreciate the fatigue level, maybe even the emotional fatigue, and then help the guys get back.

1:46:10With our group, we're so lucky we didn't have to do a whole lot, but our coaching staff is just outstanding. Patience is really important. And then strategically on the other side of the calendar is sort of doing those projections, one, two, three, four years out. If this happened, how could we address it? And some of those projections we don't have an answer for yet. maybe four years away. Maybe, a couple maybes, but at least you start thinking about it. And that, most of the time, is enough to get it done.

1:46:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, you got your core until 2030, it seems like, if all the reports on the internet are accurate. So you're going to be able to continue to hopefully just kind of add to your culture throughout the next few years of dominance, I think you guys are assuming or hoping for, at least going to put in the work to kind of continue to achieve the new CBA that's going to take place. How does that affect anything you were doing now is there any thing in that that's potentially going to unfold that affected how you kind of structure things now or how you did contracts or is that something you deal with whenever that becomes instituted which Gary Bettman thinks is going to be relatively soon which is a year ahead of time which never happens in professional sports so there's a number of things sort of technical things contract wise that may or may not impact us uh the season uh Could go to 84 games.

1:47:28That's something that would obviously impact us. We've already taken, we started, well, maybe late in the season to address next season already. Okay, we've gone to the finals three years in a row. How tired are these guys going to be? What can we do? Well, maybe they're not. First of all, let's just not assume they are. Two, what could we do to sort of lessen the load physically and emotionally? We've already started to modify our training camp. We're going to do that differently. examining the travel, nuts to bolts. So with the cap going up, that's going to help us. We're going to be right at the cap this year.

1:48:06It's going to be tight. But since, as you pointed out, our core's locked up to 2030, it will give us flexibility as we have more cap space to supplement and to help and to make additions to support that core.

1:48:19Pat McAfee:And if you need to get rid of any of those guys, we're talking Bennett, Marshy, hell, Bob. No, no. No. You just sent him right to Pittsburgh. Yeah, Chuck, you sent him right to Pittsburgh, Bill. Okay, you do that. You go ahead and do that, okay? Obviously, a lot of success has to come, has to fulfill a lot of things that you've dreamt about throughout your entire life. Your team showing you love has to be another thing that you can't put words or a price tag on. Go ahead, D-Butch. Yeah, Bill, I got to ask you, after the final game in the locker room, I know it's something that Panthers fans love to watch, probably just hockey fans in general, when that puck is handed out to someone in that locker room.

1:48:58Now, I don't know if you can confirm or deny. Did you receive the final puck? I don't think I've seen it confirmed legitimately anywhere. And what was that moment like after winning it all once again? I did receive the puck. I put it in the board, and it was surreal. And I still probably don't appreciate it. I was so shocked and so surprised that I just – I mean, I don't even know what I said. you know way to go there was no poignant moment you know you think about that i'm gonna say this and from the heart and i think i just said am i supposed to do this like i was i was pretty rattled but looking back on it it uh was an honor and what a privilege to be with those guys uh i don't know i think was the game before um they gave it to to vitek vanesek the backup goalie who play um last year we had one where jonah gadgevich was away from the team and he had twins so he rejoined us in new york and he didn't even see the boys like he came in at 6 30 and just came to the rink and we won it and niko mikola looked up said gadge your player of the game because he had just had the twins if you see the social media on it it's awesome and the whole room erupts that's

1:50:16Pat McAfee:That's your team, dude. Yeah, that's your team. Watching the celebrations here from the golf carts to the pools to the strawberry margaritas to the Dairy Queen, it feels like they're all together and they want to be together. And families, too. We've got a lot of kids playing with each other. I think they all live in the same area. It's like you've literally built a community down there. And the community's culture is we're going to win hockey games in an awesome way. Go ahead. Even on the ice. Sorry to cut your heart. Even on the ice, once they won it, passing the cup around to the first-time winners, You know, everybody gets to touch it first, you know, for their first time experiencing that.

1:50:47That just lets you know that illustrates what type of team, what type of culture that they really have in there. So congratulations on receiving that final puck, man. Well deserved. You've shown it with this offseason. Hell yeah, Bill. Yeah. It was like the family thing. You can't overstate that. So, I mean, even Marcy, when Marcy, no one knew what was going to happen. And my kids, his daughter's name's Ruru, might be the cutest human on earth. my kids are saying, you have to get Ruru back, Dad. You have to get Ruru back. And then the next night, I don't know, maybe it was two nights after and the boys had already gone a little bit, but they still had some in them.

1:51:24Matthew Kachuk says, let's have a party with everybody and everybody's families. Kids, everybody, let's go. And it was awesome. We had so much fun.

1:51:32Pat McAfee:That feels like that's every day for you guys down there. Hop on a golf cart, go to the golf course, hang out with each other. Let's go work our asses off at the rink so we can fight other people and beat them. It's like you guys have everything that every type of team is looking for, every business is looking for. Congratulations on keeping that and enjoy the hell out of the offseason, Bill. You look awesome right now. Thanks. Appreciate it very much. You're glowing, brother. You're glowing. And also congratulations on being the most super Italian in America, right? You won some, yeah, you won the Italian, most Italian Italian, right, award?

1:52:06I would like to win the most Italian Italian award. That would be something. But I think you did. You're getting honored, I think, at this golf out. No, that's the National Italian Invitational. That's a golf outing out of Lake Geneva. I'm sure some Packers had won it, A.G. I don't know. Have you been to Lake Geneva? Oh, yeah. Lake Geneva's off. I'm not Italian, but, yeah, congrats. Lombardi won one. Lombardi won one. Lombardi, like a lot of big names. But it's a special place, and I'm just honored. And it's a great charity, and they raise money and have scholarships. It's wonderful.

1:52:39Pat McAfee:Well, congrats on being named their most super Italian. And that's a big honor. Coach Pagano won that in years past. That's how we learned about the most Italian Italian award. And we are pumped as hell for you to enjoy that and everything else that you've worked your ass off for. Congratulations, Bill. Thank you. Grazie, prego, Bill Zito.

1:53:03Pat McAfee:The most Italian Italian. I think our show has the most Italian Italian award winners to ever be broadcaster on it. I assume so. I think so. A lot of paisans of the program have won the most Italian Italians. That's the ultimate goal. When's Territore getting his? He's got to have already. Oh, we got a four. I think we might see Gene Territore in the near future. That'd be awesome. I'll tell you what, that is a mood lifter. As soon as Territore walks into the room, boom, who's that guy? They want to know who it is. He's so good. Yeah, the throwback NFL games are awesome, and then when he comes on to make a call, it's even better.

1:53:42He also, there for a little bit, he was doing the...

1:53:44Pat McAfee:Yep, I love that. Just so casual. A lot of refs wondering what to do with your hands. Well, Sarator's got an answer. One of these times, I'm going to make sure this thing's on. That's first time. First time. He's the best. We got a personal file. We all saw it. 74, right over there. 15-yard penalty. First time. Gene Sarator's the man. I also saw who he learned that from. The Pittsburgh ref? The Heistful ref? I'm assuming that guy was Italian. Yeah, maybe. 200 years. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, there he is right there, actually. You want to zoom in? There he is. That's Western Pennsylvania.

1:54:21Pat McAfee:Inter-splastic, athletically. Triple O-G. First time. That's a hold. We saw it. First time. We got face mask, defense, number 16. That's Upper St. Clair. First time. Guy's greatest. The best. I can't believe they tried to eliminate the Yenzer accent from, like, when people get out of Pittsburgh and they get into situations where more people can hear them, they immediately go, you got to fucking get that out of your voice, whatever that is. Sounds like you're just all saying one word and it's marbles in her. You need to get rid of that? It's like the Yenzer accent is the greatest by far. Anything that is said is funny in it.

1:55:02Pat McAfee:Yes. I never knew about it until coming out here. Didn't even know there was a Pittsburgh accent. Very lazy. And then if you just think about the human that's probably saying it, it's just so good. Oh, my God. My D coordinator in college was Pittsburgh. And his favorite word was, don't be a jack-off. Don't be a jack-off. He loved it. We all used it. You hear that shit a lot. Do you think Bill Zito claims Pittsburgh? He should. We're definitely claiming him. I don't think he does. He hasn't argued against it. Sounds like he claims Wisconsin. Does that play for Steelers? No, I play for a Duquesne dude.

1:55:33Pat McAfee:Ironman or Superman. I don't know if it's a Duquesne dude. All right. This terrible show ends now. We will continue digitally. Hopefully you'll join us back again tomorrow. Happy birthday, America. It's right around the corner. We'll see you then. Goodbye. That was very professional. I came up quickly there. Yeah, it did. It did, actually. Four guests today. Five. Yeah, moving. Oh, yeah. Shams Bomb. Shams Bomb. Did you see that? We did some real, like, breaking news from the newsroom. And Shams is trying to get his tweet. He's trying to fire his tweet off while talking. Shams good at multitasking, obviously.

1:56:04Pat McAfee:That was a thing to watch him do that. New York Knicks get a head coach, AJ. Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Yeah, I mean, all I could think of when I heard Mike Brown was D-Button mention the video. Whenever he was trying to tell the guys how to run, how to get back on D or whatever it was, like, I knew, hey, that's our guy. We need that guy. I do. All roads led to a notable probably, right, for the Knicks? Well, it started that way. Yeah. I think it was kind of just scrambling, hey, people know this guy. We probably won't get killed if we hire him. We should go ahead and grab it. Because he was, what, probably like the eighth choice, realistically, going into the offseason.

1:56:40I mean, they went down.

1:56:41Pat McAfee:But they would say that they were just casting a wide net. For sure. It's not in favor. We were just trying to interview as many people as possible. Like, in the NFL, they interview, well, like, 20, 30 people nowadays. Yeah. Like, 15, 20 people. But you know who's the leader in the clubhouse? Yeah, because. We never knew who the leader in the clubhouse was for the Knicks because everybody was seemingly opting out of being the leader in the clubhouse. Exactly. We only got to him because they requested all these other people, and they said no, and it was like, okay, can't do him, can't do him. They're like, well, shit, Mike Brown's available.

1:57:09Let's go get him. But even that, they brought in Don Staley too and some of those other people, Shams named. He is. I mean, he's got a track record, and he's a good coach, but I think you're being ignorant. And if you think they come out and say, he's the guy who we wanted all along.

1:57:24Pat McAfee:No, maybe they did in the back of their mind. They're like, the universal let us know. if all these other guys we can't interview and Coach John Staley, if he ends up being the one, it's the reason. And James Dolan could spin a web that that's where he wanted to be getting. And he will. He spins a lot of webs. It's weird that... He spins a lot of webs. That motherfucker does... That sphere... I mean, how much we paid for one concert. I couldn't even fathom what he's got going on. And where's the other ones opening in Abu Dhabi or something? I couldn't even fathom what that guy's got going on. The amount of money.

1:57:56Pat McAfee:And then him being the direct one, being like, McAfee's not fucked. Yeah, right. I love it. Like, I genuinely, I think people think that I'm talking shit when I say that. No. If I was the owner of a team and somebody from the other team had a speech or was a part of it, hey, can he come? Get the fuck out of it. You can sit in a suite if you want. You want to buy a suite? You're not going to be on the court. That's not representing us. I love that move out of that. I also appreciate that they did try to, as Bruce would put it, mid-major other NBA teams. It was like it was March Madness and mid-major coach has a good run.

1:58:31Pat McAfee:Like, alright, he's getting plucked to a bigger school. That's how Bruce was describing what the Knicks were doing. I think that's how Bruce was selling it to himself. But once I viewed it that way, I was like, oh, that's fucking hysterical. Especially if Dolan was the one that was like, Mac, he's not sitting in the courtside. Like, if he's like, ask him if they want to congratulate their coach. Coach is in fucking Minnesota. Ask him if he wants to come coach in New York. I love that. Just the thought of it. Now, this is no way like a normal avenue to get a head coach at all. But I do appreciate that the Knicks just do shit their own way.

1:59:03Pat McAfee:Seemingly. The only way you get Jason Kidd is if Jason Kidd forces his way to the Knicks. And the only way to pique that interest is to go and ask the Mavericks, hey, can we talk to Jason Kidd? They say no. Then Jason Kidd can force his way out and, you know, come over. I don't think there was ever any expectation that those teams would grant an interview to their head coaches. I did think it was pretty funny to ask a bunch of them. But, you know, I think it often gets overblown. Like, what are the Knicks doing? They don't have a plan. Like, they're doing a coaching search is what they were doing.

1:59:36They interviewed Mike Brown, two-time coach of the year. They got their coach. They got a better, deeper bench and the same starting lineup. And we just got to use our bench and not blow a game one lead in the Eastern Conference Finals.

1:59:46Pat McAfee:See, think about that, you guys doing a coaching search. The timing of your coaching search was so late because your team made it to the Eastern Conference Finals, which is why people go like, why are we doing a coaching search? But then the flip side of that is that Knicks fans should be like, man, we've always sucked. We should just be happy with being good now. And I think it was clear in the Pacers series that Rick Carlisle ran laps around Thibodeau, and Tibbs was forced to go to a deeper rotation, which he never did once in the regular season, while, meanwhile, Obi Toppin, who rotted away on our bench, is giving us 15 minutes of hell every single night.

2:00:23While Tibbs last season probably went to our GM, Leon Rose, and said, Obi Toppin, I can't play him. He's not good enough on defense. So all those combinations of things leads to them moving on. And I'm pumped up about Jordan Clarkson, former sixth man of the year, coming off our bench now. And I think we're well positioned here.

2:00:43Pat McAfee:I love that, Bruce. Congrats, Bruce. Hey, he's been awesome through this entire thing because at the beginning, he's like every other Knicks fan whenever they fire Tibbs after this. Like, whoa, we got no plan. It's all happening. And then you could tell Bruce laid down at night and was like, what else are they supposed to do? And then starts going through it all. And he has done a full reversal. I think that is a genuine attitude out of him right there. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, we are. We did make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah, everybody's seemingly forgetting about that with new voice in there.

2:01:14Pat McAfee:and maybe new strategy that we, you guys ran into it two years in a row in the playoffs. Yes. Pacers, both years. Yeah. Now the Pacers do that to a lot of teams, I think, where we're learning. No doubt. Pacers took Oklahoma City, one of the most dominant teams in the history of the NBA, to a seven-game series because of how they play. But I respect the fact that you, as a Knicks fan, was at the point of like, the Knicks are fucking idiots. And now it's like, no, I'm with them. I think this is a good play. I think Dolan will appreciate that. And if the Knicks make another run, that's good for the NBA.

2:01:44Pat McAfee:and it's good for the Pacers as well, even though we don't have Tyrese. Yeah, well, that's the thing for Mike Brown. And, like, the whole entire Knicks thing, they look so dumb because they didn't have a plan. And, like, I get the Mike Brown thing. If they fired Tibbs and hired Mike Brown the next day, that would be a different conversation. And if you look at the teams that did fire coaches or have in the past, they usually just hire an assistant. The Spurs, they just, hey, let's go to the assistant, Nuggets assistant, Celtics assistant. I think the assumption would have been that they had some other assistant coach in the Knicks organization that they loved and that they wanted to make head coach immediately, and then they didn't, and then it took a few weeks, and then it was Mike Malone would be perfect, and then Mike Malone either says no or doesn't want to do it.

2:02:25I think that was the big thing, but Mike Brown's now in a terrible situation because of the fact that it's like, hey, you're either the two seed because all these teams in the East suck, and we're the only team really coming back with everybody aside from the Cavs, so it should be the Cavs, Knicks, and then everybody else, and you guys better go back to the Eastern Conference Finals. And when you get there, you better win. Because if you don't, then, hey, Mike Brown, you just basically shit down your leg because this team's great.

2:02:51Pat McAfee:First year in, he'll have excuses. First year in the system. That's what I'm saying. He'll have excuses ready. Don't worry. There will be reasons. But I'm just saying, like, after experiencing the Knicks series with us, like, I understand that we are considered small market here in Indiana and the seven-game finals was up 10 % year over year whenever it comes to audience for the NBA and all that stuff. But it's like the New York effect is very – and I happen to be in their city for two of the biggest days and watching just buildings empty in the streets to celebrate – like the scenes that the Knicks gave to New York City and to the sports world as a whole.

2:03:32Pat McAfee:It's like we would like the Knicks to be good. Yeah, the NBA is a thousand times better when like the Knicks, the Lakers, the Celtics, the old school teams are good. Just like hockey. Just like hockey, exactly. Gary Bettman told us a stat yesterday. Five new teams in the playoffs every year for like the last 20 years or so. I forget what the number was. He said five new teams get in it. This year, none of the original six were in there. That's not good for hockey. First time Rangers, Penguins, and Bruins haven't been in the playoffs, I think, at the same time since like – What's that, D-Bug? I kind of like it.

2:04:05It was an electric playoff. It was. I like where hockey's going. It's pretty good. You need Pittsburgh in the playoffs. Earn it. Man, hand this shit out. Earn it. Okay. Pittsburgh, yeah. I don't need the Rangers. I mean. Pittsburgh started this whole Florida Panthers thing. You remember that? What, let them in? Lost to the Blackhawks. If the Penguins beat the Chicago Blackhawks. Last game. Two years ago. That was a good team, though. Or three years ago, the Bruins don't play the Panthers in the first round of the playoffs and lose. That was the greatest regular season of all time you guys had.

2:04:39Yeah, you could have just beat them in the first round. Brad Marchand, actually. There's a tweet going around, like, biggest butterfly moment in the history of hockey. Breakaway? Bruins up 3-1. Yeah, breakaway end of the game with the clock running out. Great save. That's Bob, baby.

2:04:54Pat McAfee:Yeah. That is Bob. You think Bill's going to send any of those guys to Pittsburgh? I tried to convince him. I don't know. Is Trailer Park Boys shot out of Pittsburgh? I think Phil might be a big fan. What's that? Those were Bubbles glasses, right? I've never seen that, but a man named Bubbles could have those glasses on, in my mind. Is that the same as Poopies? Who's Poopies? No, no. He is the Poopies of Triller Park Boys. Phil Zito did not deserve that. There's a lot of people that didn't deserve a lot of today. What do you mean? I thought that Bubbles reference. Nick's comment about Nigel was uncalled.

2:05:32That was a kill shot. It was not about Nigel. It was. It was about British people in general. Yeah, but you said Nigel needs to stop. I mean, it was 10 seconds after he got off the phone. He had to have heard it. Still watching. Nigel's a great guy. He's great for the program. He's entertaining. He's informative. He's awesome.

2:05:51Pat McAfee:And sometimes we'll say we love somebody and we don't mean it. Okay? I'm going to give a little behind the curtain over here. Nigel is a guy we love. I mean, that is – we've talked to him a long time. Long time. Yeah. It is funny just to drop a British accent in the middle of our show. Yeah, it is. On 4th of July week. Yeah. Literally. Can't be tying 2-2 Costa Rica. What? We won that game. I mean, Connor said he was chewing rocks. You're all right. What are we talking about? He was, man. I couldn't hear shit. He's talking about the way it sounds. We need the captions under that. When are we going to get to the point of tech where I'll be able to read what he's saying to me live?

2:06:32You know? We could have just put up, like, indescribable British bullshit. Yeah. But that doesn't help me. No, I know. That doesn't help me. If it wasn't British bullshit. No, I know. I could understand him. You know, I'm just saying, you know, I could help people out.

2:06:47Pat McAfee:I mean, Amanda Anasanova. Yeah. That's a tough British accent. That was good, yeah. I mean, that was tough for me to get. I didn't know if he, because you guys told me you said one name. I was like, oh my God, that's why. But they are naturally more funny than us, I think. The British accent is naturally funnier. Like, I think about Ricky Gervais. Ricky Gervais can and will say anything, and I think it's all just because of the accent, you know. And their ability to use words that we have kind of stigmatized. Yeah, big time. Is an interesting. It's a weapon. That is an interesting thing. That is an interesting thing over there.

2:07:20Pat McAfee:But shout out to England. Wimbledon's been electrifying because I don't know who these people are other than Joker, Alcaraz, I obviously know Madison Keys, New Coco Goff. Bo. Djokovic. Terry Pagula, their daughter, Jesse Pagula. Sinner. Okay, so we know some of these people. But a majority of these Wimbledon games, I'm looking up who it is, and I'm seeing a number that's low and a number that's high, and the high one's winning and in it. Wimbledon's been electrifying. Tennis is not something I'll ever be able to watch full time, But at these big tournaments, you know, you get$80 ,000 for a first-round loss at this thing.

2:07:54Pat McAfee:It is fun to watch the intensity and the reaction. John Cena was over there in a full suit. Oh, yeah, he was. He's always suited. He was so hot. He's an American. He's A-OK. You're right. You're right. He lived down in Florida, Tampa for however long. Long time. Yeah, he's no air conditioning. And in the military barracks, you think they got air conditioning in there? He was awesome. Easy. Yeah, he looks unbelievable. I assume he's sitting near the king or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He killed Bin Laden. Easy. Long time. He was in a movie, a Marine. Yes, he was. Well. He didn't step on those yellow foot.

2:08:26Pat McAfee:I don't know if he made it down to Parris Island, but he was a Marine in a movie. I thought he did. Hair looks good. He killed Bin Laden. His hair looks unbelievable. He looks unbelievable. He's really just batting at that. It seems like Cena's really doing. Yeah, Peacemaker's coming out as well very soon. There's another movie, too. I just saw a commercial for it. Yeah, very soon. It's going to be unbelievable. He plays the president of the United States. Yeah, it's going to be John Cena, for shoot, incredible at doing movies. Great actor. Legit great actor. I agree. His context, his tone. He's got range.

2:09:04He's got range that he shouldn't have, too. Athletes usually don't have range like he does, doing comedy and drama, all that stuff. Don Batista, too. Oh, yeah. He's all in. He's taking risks. Cena doesn't give a shit if he looks like an asshole or if he has to make fun of himself. I feel like that's a pretty big deal for a guy in his position.

2:09:20Pat McAfee:He does things on a regular basis over there that's a humiliation ritual. It's like, no, Cena's just fucking down for whatever. Yeah, he's self-deprecating. Now, or? We don't know. Did I say he's up for the next Bond? You did not see that. That'd be sweet, though. But they say that about everything. Like, Cena's willing to fucking do whatever. Did, what, a four-minute dance routine of Peacemaker at the beginning of that thing with, like, Cena is a fucking beast. He's an absolute beast. He's a machine, that guy. I mean, he lived in China for a while. But, with that being said, completely different land and language.

2:10:00Pat McAfee:Alright, if this goes in... Did he learn speaking? Hey, AJ. AJ, 200 push-ups this morning. Great. No, no, no. We did a couple sets there. Yeah, we did a couple sets there. It was your push-ups, though, the ones on the bench. You said that's the – Oh, like a decline, kind of incline? Yeah. Incline. I believe decline my feet on the bench, right? Yeah. Incline would be hands on the bench. Yeah, yeah. So, like – oh, yeah, that's great, isn't it? Great. Yeah, it was really – it locks me up. 50 close, 40? Started at 50. You can move your hands, too. Like, you can start with your hands in, go wide, close grip for your triceps, all that stuff.

2:10:42Pat McAfee:Great workout because you're also doing a plank. right because you gotta hold the body up or whatever i talked to booker t about this whenever we did the boxing events and he's so jacked he's like 60 whatever and he's just jacked he looks awesome he say just does uh 200 push-ups a day or whatever every morning starts his day does 200 push-ups a day i was like you you're you have no body fit you're also like incredibly ripped he's like yeah just the push-ups because you're doing planks there the whole time so it's uh you're basically playing push-ups like the greatest workout of all time i've started doing it it is amazing.

2:11:15Pat McAfee:And then rowing, crew, that machine, the back. I'm doing a lot of workouts for a lot of parts of my body that I'm almost tricking myself into doing here. The rowing is unbelievable. Back, tricep, legs, arms, cardio. I think the number one rower in America recruit is in Indiana. Oh, really? I think he's a senior in Indianapolis, Indiana. I don't know if it's Brownsburg High School or maybe Carmel High School. I don't remember. His dad was at one of our shows for the NBA finals. And he was like, hey, if you ever want to talk about rowing, the number one rower in the class of Bubba is my son. He's in Indianapolis, Indiana.

2:11:56Pat McAfee:And he trained out on Eagle Creek Reservoir over there. That's interesting. Yeah, he is 6 '5", maybe. He's got to be a big son of a bitch. And I'm like so amazed that rowing is where he stayed because that guy. Jimmy Graham's about to row to the Arctic Circle. that's starting here really soon any day now jeez yeah they're maniacs yeah that's a hard fucking work i've been doing it it's a great workout it's a full body type situation you know they say swimming's full body but you gotta get in the water it's like a hole i got a hole in my eardrum i go unruly necessarily love it if i drown i actually die so true that's not that's not a desirable workout for me hasn't been i've tried it a couple times because i know how good it is for the joints and does the whole body this rowing thing i've really gotten into it i've really enjoyed it you put a song on too a couple songs on then you're just right on beat like whenever they're yelling it's like uh you kind of get lost in it and then you get up and you're like i can't move my whole body my workout second cousin of mine won gold at the olympics row really coaching a combo i think that no delaney uh i think they uh actually when he was rowing he won silver or bronze but then when he coached they won gold and i think he coached at ucla play, maybe?

2:13:08Like, his D1 coach. The fuck? It's hard. Was it Rapshade, like, All-American? Yeah, Rapshade won a gold, I thought, right? But you saw how strapped he was when he was rowing. Yeah, he's a short stat. What are they putting the short, swole guys in? I don't know. In, like, the big races or in the one he was in? I mean, I assume he was in the biggest race. He was in All-American. Yeah, the short, swole guys, I think they drowned in the late... No, he's in All-American. No, that is not... These guys certainly aren't making it to the Olympics.

2:13:32Pat McAfee:These guys are huge. I think the rowing guys, volleyball guys, huge. Yeah, the Winklevine. Remember them in the movie? Tall is in front. He's huge. That's a different human. That's Ian Rapport right there in front with sunglasses.

2:13:51Pat McAfee:He likes to tape up his oar, obviously. Nice watch on, too. What's the watch? He's keeping time for it. 22! Yeah, he's in there. You know how many seconds it's taking him? Barking up. That rap sheet the night before was up to some senile shit. I know for a fact. What, senile? Yeah. Like forgetting he's doing it? Exactly.

2:14:15Pat McAfee:If this goes in, Ian Rappaport was never senile. Okay. Maybe he did some senile shit, though. Oh, fuck! I wanted that so bad. Bonne ball, bonne ball, bonne ball. were you confused because he did actually roll the entire Nile River one time

2:14:48Pat McAfee:what's this for? tonight USA USA Guatemala semifinals of the CONCACAF not to be confused with CONCACAF the CONCACAF Gold Cup tonight AJ what's the final score USA Guatemala more? 8-0. U.S. wins. Love that. That's basically what Gumpy was saying. Gumpy, who is one of the greatest footy handicappers on Earth from the Hammer Podcast and the Concaval Pod. Gumpy? 3-0. 3-1. We all know they will concede. They don't have to. They won't concede again. They won't concede again. Toxic Table at Boston Conner. Score tonight? I'm going to go 0-0 penalties. And then who wins? Come on, we're freezing there. Okay, so we went in penalties, you're saying?

2:15:39Pat McAfee:Yeah. Okay, how many saves does Freeze have? Five. Wait, that doesn't make sense. Four. He has four out of how many? Out of four. Out of five. Four out of five? Mm-hmm. It wouldn't probably make it to the fifth, I'd assume, if he had four there. No, because they score first. And then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's 2-1. Yeah, but that thing's over early. Are we not scoring any of ours either? Yeah, they're going to stand on his head, too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, it's a cagey penalty shot? They put the boost. I'm just telling you what I read about. And then last shot, 2-1.

2:16:12Freeze takes it. Freeze saves it. We win. Everyone goes down. Freeze has his tongue out again. Like, ah!

2:16:20Pat McAfee:USA. Yeah, exactly. USA. Okay, Ty? I'm going to say 4-0 us, and I also believe it's supposed to be pretty hot out there. Rumor has it Ponch is going to cut holes in his slacks and hang his nuts all night. Love that. That's what Bunch wants to do that. That's what he wants us to do. D. Bunch, your predictions for tonight's USA Guamalcan? You're assless chaps. Freeze is locked in. He's dialed. Then we win 5-0. No conceding. What city are they in? St. Louis. On turf. What's your prediction? If it's going to be too high. Okay. That's a good question. I have USA.

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