PMS 2.0 1376 - 5 Star Linebacker Tyler Atkinson Makes His College Commitment, Cal Raleigh, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

22:23Pat McAfee:Congratulations, Tyler. Congratulations to Coach Sark and everybody down there in Texas. 197 tackles his sophomore year of high school. He's obviously 6A state champ and the MVP of the game. Number one linebacker in the country. Absolute beast. And from what we have been able to tell, incredible dude, incredible family. Now, why was it Texas, you think, in the end? And who all knows this at this moment? Before you announced that, who all knew? Did Coach Sark know that this was happening today? We had conversations. You know, I really was just trying to pick when I come here. You know, just go from there.

22:59I didn't want nothing to get leaked or anything out. But, you know, what really chose me to go to Texas is the coaches, the relationship piece, the atmosphere. You know, I feel like I just can encompass everything I want at Texas. And, yeah, so I just feel like, you know, the way they're going to have me playing is just the best fit, and that's why I chose Texas.

23:20Pat McAfee:Congratulations. Congratulations, dude. Miss Laura, congrats. Baby boy going to Texas. And, yeah, Miss Laura. And, Victor, your process, what has it been like for you guys? What has it been like to kind of watch him mature through this whole process and obviously see so many places send so much love to your boy? Like that had to be a very cool thing for you to witness for your kid. Oh, man, it's amazing, man. It's a blessing as a dad to see your kids chase their dreams and accomplish the goals that they have set. And I think the journey has just been tremendous because he's learned so much. His approach was just going on the visits and what have you.

24:01It was just to learn from the coaches and see him become a better player. And it's just, like I said, it's just been a blessing, man. I'm just excited for him. I'm proud of him. And I'm excited to see him in the next chapter in Texas. Hook him.

24:15Pat McAfee:That's right, baby. Let's do it. And I would like to say to you, Mr. and Mrs. Atkinson, from what we have been able to observe here for the last couple hours and learning your story, obviously, high school sweethearts, phenomenal job as parents. You should be incredibly proud of what you guys have accomplished, not only obviously with Tyler, but with Victoria, Brianna, and Chyna as well. Cool people. Not a lot of people come in here that we like. No. You guys have been awesome. At least I'm on the good side. No, no, no. We're happy to be on your good Saturday. Congratulations, you guys. Tyler Atkinson officially going to Texas.

24:53Pat McAfee:Thank you. Big time. Thank you for coming. Brother, appreciate you. Appreciate you, man. No doubt. Always good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, thank you. Yeah, let's take a photo. Congrats, dude. Congrats. It's awesome. Thank you for coming, man. Appreciate you, dude. Hey, you want to take a photo? Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Can you move drama? Watch yourself. Please, fuck me on the road. Here we go. Jabba. You getting in here? Oh, hell yeah. Jabba might be stuck. Okay, Jabba's stuck. Jabba, your partner.

25:33Good work, Liam. Yes, sir. Nice. Thank you so much. Nice meeting you, Victoria. See you later.

25:53Pat McAfee:All right, that was cool, man. Congrats to him. Congrats to Texas, too. Yeah. Hey, legit. Texas is in on everybody. They're going to be so good. I think McConaughey's pumped right now. Glenn's playing Powell. That's all I thought of in my head was Glenn Powell in Scotland or something. This is the guy? You got him. Good work, Bill. Good work, Bruce. Good work, Bruce. Going one. Or 20 in some cool car gets a notification. Hey, that was a pretty cool little setup there. Yeah. Our first time seeing it was live, obviously. So that was kind of nice. That was very cool. The speech in the hats and everything.

26:27Pat McAfee:I mean, I feel like we really did a – Hey, we appreciate you guys. I appreciate you guys. See you, dude. Welcome. Welcome. How about I'm saying I wish I could play for all four? I mean, we're over it right now. We don't want it to happen, but it is possible. What a legend. Good for that kid. That's awesome. The other ones have been much different because it's just one hat. You don't see any of them, and they just put them on. And he traveled here. Tyler, we appreciate you, dude. So cool. Hey, no problem, man. By the way, he is a professional athlete. Yeah. Has been for about three, four years now.

27:04Pat McAfee:In four years. They're talking about the rehab, the training, the practice, the schedule. He's taking summer classes, obviously, because he's going to graduate early. So it's like what his schedule looks like. They're putting in practice and rehab into high school schedules because you take summer classes to remove some. So it's like a full blueprint, basically, for these high schoolers. And then I love that Moolageta is representing high school athletes. That is great for these kids, like great for these guys. Whenever there's like a bunch of agents that aren't really agents kind of getting their hooks in a young person, not good.

27:44Pat McAfee:That's whenever you hear terrible stories and people signing these deals or agreeing to things that are future and everything like that. Mola Guetta getting invested in the next generation, obviously it's good for his business. Not going to act like it's not. But it's also good for their business to have somebody like that in there. A lot of people don't love, more specifically, NFL teams don't love the deals that Mola Guetta is able to get done. But if you are a person that is being represented by Mola Guetta, that is the guy. Like, hey, this is who we would like be chit-chatting for us. So whenever he calls me and tells me about this guy, I know a lot of things.

28:15Pat McAfee:I know he's going to be very professional, mature, and very good at football. And you look into this guy, yeah, he's unbelievable at football. Number one linebacker in the country. Those four teams, I think legit, I think it was very much like a – Nobody knew. Yeah, and I think he was very conflicted on the entire thing. For a second there. I thought he was going to change. So did I. I was like, oh, this is going to be awesome. He's going to change it up, and we're not going to know. But, I mean, being from Georgia and picking Texas, that's a big deal. That does feel like it's a rather look. And I think the number two linebacker in Georgia, who's also five-star, is going to Alabama from Georgia.

28:58It's okay. We know Kirby will have defense. Without a doubt. What happens now is, like, you know, some of these guys like him, they move the needle. Like, they'll go commit somewhere, and now you'll have maybe some decommits from school. You can go to Texas to kind of join a guy like Tyler. But we didn't get to ask him, but, like, I'm sure Archman had been there, had something to do with it. You know, just like you go and you look at these NFL teams, you want to look at the quarterback, you look at the coach situation. So, I mean, everything is going to be at his fingertips. He's going to have all the resources being at Texas.

29:28And then you talk about dealing with a guy like David Mulugeta, like the resource that he has with his clients, like the guys that he can get on the phone. He's talking about Micah. Yeah, Mike. Those are all... Yeah, exactly.

29:38Pat McAfee:Moola got there. Hey, here's a group text with Mike. I don't know if you heard Mike. This is what he said about you. He's a big fan. Is there anything you can say to him? Yeah. Maybe some drills that you do, actually. Like, that is a weapon. I think it's good for the game long-term. Great. There's obviously some negative... For sure. ...that come alongside all of this. Feels like he's pretty well shielded from a lot of it. Yeah. Now, granted, being a professional since you're 15, we'll see what the long-term effects of that are. You know, because they talk about, like, people being teenagers and working, being famous, and having money and things like that.

30:06Pat McAfee:What are the long-term effects of that? Who knows? We shall see what that is. But I think having a direction and knowing that you're going to be a pro and becoming a pro has a lot of upside too for how people operate whenever they get to that level. And if you think about, he's got a senior next year, three, four years there. So it's like five years, four or five years until he's at the NFL. And then what, that's like a four-year deal there at the NFL before you get another deal. So he's like nine years away from like real, real, real money. and that is still very much he understands that and it's not just about money obviously it's about legacy and team and being good and winning he's a state champion I mean the guy wants to win and all that but it's like if you're thinking strictly business wise your second NFL deal is worth more than any of this shit so that is where we were trying to in Texas to your point about having all the access to everything you could possibly want yeah I mean forever people are talking about those collectives it's like Texas has like four or five of them Yeah.

31:01Pat McAfee:Like people are talking about, does our school have one of them? If they've got one of them, shouldn't. I think Texas has like four or five different groups of boosters that are like, what do you need? How do you need it? Yeah. We are here to help hook the shit out of them. That is what we are doing. And that's great if you're a Texas fan. Yes. That's great if you're playing for Texas. For everybody else, it's like Texas is one of those teams that's up in that conversation. They're alongside Oregon. They're alongside Michigan. They're alongside Ohio State. They're alongside Penn State. By the way, we've been telling you about Penn State.

31:31Pat McAfee:Yeah. Penn State is in on all sports. If NIL is involved, Penn State is involved. They would like to be known for being a university that is great at sports. They just got the number one hockey guy. He'll be the number one pick in the draft next year, yeah. Without a doubt, he's like the McDavid, Bedard, one of those number one picks that they've known about him for years. Yeah, Penn State. Like, this is what Penn State is trying to become, though. Like, obviously, football, we want everything. We're doing a$700 million renovation in our football stadium right now. Cash.

32:03Pat McAfee:I don't think people fully grasp all of it. They don't. I don't think you fully grasp. I got to see it and believe it in football. I understand. Penn State, I agree. They're going to spend the money, but I got to see them get it done. Yeah, two biggest sports, basketball and football in college, they need to get it done there. Yeah, well, you know, I think Penn State thought they were going to potentially. Yeah. Hours back. I mean, he might be a top five pick. Yeah, exactly. Throw that interception. They might go to the National. Bingo. That's what I'm saying. They're not good. It's like you ask AQ, he's like, we were good.

32:36Pat McAfee:Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Big Ten monster. I don't know if he's number one linebacker in the country, but I know he's number one in the state of Ohio's heart. He was with a match. Ladies and gentlemen, guess who's back? A.J. Hawk. Wow! Hogger! Back door. A full jersey? The kid? That thing signed? The kid signed that? Ken Griffey Jr.? Yeah. Yeah. Pete Rose? It's an authentic replica autograph on the back, yeah. You could probably raise that seat up. But that's also Griffey. That's not Junior. This is Junior. This isn't Mister. This is Junior. Is there a Junior on the back of the jersey?

33:12I don't know. I don't think so.

33:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, just Griffey, it says. Yeah, so that's Ken. Okay. That's Senior? That's Senior. Ken Griffey, Jr. We're good. It's not Griffey, Jr. It's his jersey. No, they'll steal the medal thing. This guy. He signed it. You know the thing about Griffey Jr. is that on the back it says Griffey Jr. Now, with that being said, Ty Schmidt and I did meet Ken Griffey Jr. We did. What? I saw he was taking you on assignment as a photographer, right? We complimented his picture. I mean, I want to say we hit all the beats with Ken Griffey whenever we saw him. Junior, obviously. Not saying that. Okay. Good to know.

33:49Pat McAfee:He was, we were walking through the club. We were trying to get out. He had people on his back. Of course. Mr. Griffey. Yep. Oh, yeah. A lot of that. As he was trying to exit. And we were trying to avoid the same thing, going the opposite direction. And we made absolute asses over something. Holy shit. It was like literally a divider. Yeah. A divider. This lane, we were on this lane. He had a crew of people behind him, certainly annoying the shit out of him. Without a doubt. I mean, no questions. Just, hey, can you sign? We photo the whole. And then we're going the other way. We have a couple, not as many, nowhere near as a month crowd, obviously.

34:23Pat McAfee:But we certainly held him up in the middle of that crowd so we could let him know that we were big fans. Yes. Had to be done. Had to be done. I think he'll be all right with that. You didn't ask him to stop for 10 minutes and sign autographs. Well, he got over to our lane, and then he backed out. It was almost like a – we almost gave him – Like a small reprise. Like an X. Yeah. Does that make sense? We almost gave him an X. EVAC team. He was awesome. We saw Smoltz. Yep, Smolty. He came in second in Tahoe. What place did you come in? I believe I ended in 47th out at the American Century Championship.

34:50Pat McAfee:Okay, so how was the American Century Championship this year? We didn't get a chance to enjoy it. We watched it on TV. Had some great – Pavelski. Yeah, Pavel. Joey Pavel. These hockey guys. Unbelievable. Doug Go. Eagles to win it on the 18th hole there on Sunday. And obviously he would have won, I think, even with a birdie or anything good, he would have won. Smoltz comes in second. Pavel's really rolling it out there. Yeah. And we talked to Smoltz. What's that? Rollins to the hole in one. Oh, yeah. Great to see. Great to see old buddy. That Mastercraft boat, which I checked out immediately. See, two recliners on the back.

35:23Oh, that thing's got to be$300 ,000. Like, it's legit. That's how much that thing costs?

35:27Pat McAfee:Probably. I don't know. Maybe more. I live on water, and I don't have a boat. You need it. I'm not. Bingo. But I'm not a big boat guy. I don't understand the water much. I'm learning it, though. I'm learning it. They showed that boat a lot because he won it. And obviously, we've tried to win boats at American Century. You got close. Very close. I got like. A couple times. I think it was like this far away from having a boat. Because in my head, I was like. I need that boat. A lot of people try to win this. Yeah. I need a boat. I actually need it. I actually need a boat. So as they were posted, that's a beautiful boat.

35:58Pat McAfee:Yeah. Congrats to Jimmy hitting the hole-in-one and winning that. Smoltz says he plays every day. Yes. We talked to him. He plays every day. He said he is trying to win that. Yeah, as often as he can. Yeah, he's getting out there and doing that. Do you feel like the competition is getting better out there? Yes. How do you feel? I think so. I think everybody's getting better out there. I mean, there's so many people that want to play in it that do play in it. But I talk to a lot of them, and dudes are bringing out swing coaches. They have, like, stretch people. They're like professional golfers.

36:25how they approach the whole situation. I know Pavelski, he seems to find a great balance of having a great time and being the best golfer in the tournament at the same time, which is very tough to do.

36:34Pat McAfee:Hockey guys square it up. They have to square it up their whole lives on the ground. You know, like baseball, it's in the sky. Hockey, it's on the ground. So it's basically the same place they're going to square it up. I think they have quite an advantage for the hips and the body to kind of time up a little bit better. This is just my experience of golfing with different professional athletes. Basketball players, shooters, I think they're such a muscle memory crew that they can kind of get into there. Silky smooth. Yeah, I played with Zach Levine. Just unbelievable silky smooth swing all day long.

37:04Pat McAfee:Kickers and punters, kind of a similar thing because of the mechanics. But I think you have to get the hand swing motion because leg different, obviously, than the leg swing there. And you were just, I'm going to actually grip it and rip the shit. It's unbelievable how good I've got. Were you better or worse this year? My score was not as good. I mean, you know, it's all putting. Like, I missed a ton of putts. Oh, I got an eagle putt here. Sweet, you're walking down the fairway thinking I can't wait. I'm going to get six points at this system, and then I tap in for par and I'm thankful I didn't bogey.

37:31That happened twice in the same round.

37:33Pat McAfee:Okay, so a little heartbreak. Who all did you play with? You played with Aaron, obviously. I played with Aaron on Friday. And Jordo. And Rob Mack, formerly Rob McElhaney. His wife was on game day. I saw his wife, who came to game day, did a very good job. She was great on game day. She was awesome out there as well. He was awesome. Did you let her know that we all legitimately thought she'd be great on game day? I think she was undefeated almost It wasn't her picks. She was on the top of the scoreboard most of the year. Okay, so I don't remember the picks. I apologize. But I do remember her being awesome at the – She was good.

37:59Yeah, she was really good. I played with Joe Buck and Jimmy Rollins on Sunday. Jimmy just fresh off winning that boat with the hole-in-one. So he was – I played with some awesome people, man. It was really fun. Joe Buck, how's he doing? He did good. He played well. I think he ended with 12 or 13 points.

38:12Pat McAfee:He's a busy guy. Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, Joe Buck's a good guy. Yeah, when we were – we got to sit in the broadcast booth for the Home Run Derby I could think of it as like freaking Joe Buck was probably here. Hey, these dudes had the best seat in the entire city. Where you were posting the pictures from? Yeah, we got lucky because Mike Foss, SVP, he hooked us up with the – it was an empty broadcast booth because they were doing it on the fields. Yeah, so it all came together so late. Yeah. I don't know if you heard about the story, but there's a lot of people that did not want us to go, including – it sounds like baseball peers.

38:47Pat McAfee:They were on the side of the – Kirchner? I don't know if Kirchner probably did not like us there if I had to guess. I don't know. He's got good juice. I shook Kirchner's hand. I think he was happy we were there. Plus, they were tossing him around like a rag doll in the pre-show. They were actually doing it. They were doing way...

39:06Pat McAfee:I missed that. They pick him up like this. They're curling him. But it all kind of came together a little bit late. The MLB stepped up for us. Very, very thankful they did that. We're like, well, can we watch this thing? you know, able to maybe watch it. Yeah, from your room? It was sold out. Oh. So you're thinking about going back and watching from the hotel? Well, the bus maybe for a little bit. And then the MLB made some plays. MLB, like they have. Yeah. Incredible. Made some plays. And then a booth was open because they took the thing down to the field side or whatever. So the boys got to sit in the broadcast booth.

39:41Pat McAfee:And while Ty and I were out there about to do our thing, we're scanning the entire stadium. And we're like, wow, this is awesome. Holy shit. This is so big. And we look right at home plate and then we look up and we just see them. They are the best seat in the entire... I mean, it was the best seat. We were at the apex of the ball. So when these dudes are hitting... Right behind home plate. Right behind home plate can see where the ball is laying. Baseball purists are so mad right now. We are so sorry that we got to the city. Not too much in person. Seeing those guys hit those shots in person.

40:15Way better. I cannot imagine.

40:16Pat McAfee:Bro, BP, we were there for the cruise missile. It's insane. BP, just the ones that didn't even go out, they hit the top. Just watching the... Their hands are legit. It's unbelievable. Yeah, but also... Everything. The torque hit, and then the arms are coming, and then the sound is just like a fucking... Yeah. It's a shotgun. It's barrel on ball. It's unbelievable. We were right there. Typically, I don't think we were supposed to be where we were. Well, that's why it got tough later, because for, like, the areas on the side, it's like you have all the all-stars, and they were just kind of, like, with their families.

40:50Yeah, like, mingled in there. The MLB was like, you guys just hang out. You, like, picking up their kids' snacks and stuff?

40:54Pat McAfee:I picked up a child. Yeah. A couple different kids I picked up. Yeah. Kyle, I believe, a little boy, three-year-old. Yep, that's right. Gave me a good low five high five. Miguel. Yeah, Eugenio Suarez's son, because he's a big WWE fan, too. Miguel, big WWE fan. Then the American Nightmare Cutting Roads comes out. Oh, he's over, by the way. Oh boy, is he over. The whole place sang the... Yeah. Yeah.

41:42Yeah, obviously he's always dressed very nicely. He didn't look – on TV, he didn't look too bad.

41:46Pat McAfee:Well, that's because QB1 don't sweat. Yeah, ice in his veins, bro. But he was hot out there. Yeah. It was hot out there. It was good to see him. But, yeah, everybody watches the shit, I guess. Everybody watches the shit. Oh, yeah. I don't know. A lot of people yelling for you. Where's Pat? Pat coming next to you? I think he might. He's got squared away on this putter situation. Boy, he does. Boy, he does. I saw something pre-show. I think we might get him back. Boy, does he. Look out. With the old man putter that you hold up around your chin. Old man. You were draining putts earlier. If you showed that putter to an old man, that old man would die.

42:20Immediately. It's the future. Good luck traveling with that thing. It's 19 feet long. Look at that piece of machinery. Unbelievable. Open stance. Here we go. Just a little open. This is definitely going in. Guaranteed. Bucket. Work it on it. Roll true. That's a good two putt. Well, yeah, now you're back. You got that thing. That thing is awesome.

42:44Pat McAfee:This is going to change my life on a golf course. And if not this one? Got a couple others. We got this one. Now that's the forearm, the Bryson forearm situation. I don't even know how he does that. I think that's the one. The big one? No, the one that's in your hand right now. I can hockey stick this one, too. Yeah, that one's better for your hockey stick. Why don't you do that? They got Gilmore Putters out there right now. Oh, yeah. Why don't you knock one in? We got a guy, George. Ladies and gentlemen, not just a guy, sorry. This guy's caboose could be confused with a freight train. This guy has the fattest ass in all of sport.

43:20Pat McAfee:I'm not the one that deemed him that. The world has. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, the reigning home run derby king for the Seattle Mariners. Ladies and gentlemen, all-star, big dumper Cal Roller. Yeah, dumper! What a night. What a night. Incredible performance. Thank you for doing that. for all of sports. First thing I want to ask is, how does it feel? I know we've seen the video of you saying I'm the home run derby champ and everything like that. But like, for real, that is a sense of fulfillment and a dream come true that I assume that you thought could potentially happen, but never really expected it to happen.

44:01Pat McAfee:Is that how you're feeling immediately afterwards? Yeah, I mean, obviously, great honor to be invited. And, you know, I honestly didn't, I didn't think I was going to win it at all. Especially after barely sneaking by by half an inch in that first round. It was crazy. Super fun night. They put on a great show. You guys did a great job starting it off last night. Thank you for saying that, Cal. A lot of people are not saying that. I appreciate you saying that. I appreciate your friendship and you being good to the program. You've made us much better. and obviously we were non-biased in our thing.

44:41Pat McAfee:But if you listen to me announcing you last night, I actually go, and now. Like, that is anyone even the last one. So there's a lot of pressure on you. I think a lot of people in the baseball world were like, hey, this home run derby goes well if Cal Raleigh does well. And then once we watched the battery, if you will, of what you had operating with your dad, you know, big dump, dump. Yep. And then big dump and then little dump catching. it's like I got emotional thinking about it last night as we were flying home and then on the show today just the amount of pride that I assume you all felt but your dad had to have felt so much inside I don't want to say did your dad cry last night but was there a moment where you all got a chance to take it in and be like hey our family just took on the world basically what we've been doing in our yard and in local ballparks we just took on everybody and we won like what did you guys have that moment because we think it was very beautiful to watch yeah i mean it was unbelievable uh obviously there's been a few you know father son duos but to have father son and brother uh all teaming up and doing it and uh seeing the whole little fan section there in atlanta last night was was super special and um you know that was uh it's kind of speechless you You know, you just, like I said, it's a, you know, a family affair to go like that.

46:03And it's kind of just like a Hollywood ending in a way.

46:06Pat McAfee:Yes, definitely a movie. I mean, we get chills thinking about it. You know, we're all kind of, I'm going to say emotional for your family, legitimately emotional for your family. Just how cool it would be if I, if my daughter was in a home run derby and I was fast-bidged door and we won, I'd be like, our family just fucking beat her. That would be a cool thing. okay on that note a couple quick questions about strategy we talked to you beforehand you know and it did feel as if hey if the obliques get a little sore over here we go over here it's like we got you're two guys battling against everybody else we saw in that first round it felt like it took a little bit to get loose lefty then you started stroking them bang boom boom then timeout comes and you go to the right side then it felt like the same thing kind of got to get loose again and then once you started connecting on the right side boom boom boom we're hitting them then we get the bonus time and you go back to the left we're worried we're like you're hot right now on the right side did you have a strategy going in was that the plan or were you kind of feeling it throughout the entire evening on whether or not you're going to be righty or lefty which is an incredible feat by the way being a switch hitter home run derby champion yeah i mean i wanted i told you know obviously my dad and and brother i was like you know regardless of what happens i want to i want to at least switch hit and uh you know i feel like that was a cool moment for the crowd and um you know for baseball in general to at least see me doing both and um so you know whether i lost or even advanced at all i wanted to at least switch it and i i accomplished that and then um once i barely squeaked by i was like um i don't know i just kind of felt a little better from the left side so i was like let's just let's just let it roll and it worked and uh at that point i was like you know we're here we might as well try to win this thing and um you know that's It's kind of what was the hot hand at the time.

47:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was beautiful watching. How about the little T-Mobile pink balls? Yeah, sweet. The rotation. Watching that thing fly through the sky was awesome. Go ahead, D. Butch. Yeah, Kyle, did you feel any, I guess, extra pressure being the home run leader, being kind of the, I guess, the main event, main draw there with the Derby? Did you feel any extra pressure going into it? I know you said you didn't expect to win. The books definitely did. I picked you. Not going to tell you who all the other guys picked, but I picked you to win. but did you feel any extra pressure going into it? No, but watching a lot of home run derbies in the past, usually the leader doesn't usually end up winning.

48:32Well, whoever's leading in the league, you know. So it doesn't always translate like that. It did last night. And, no, I didn't really feel any pressure. I was just anxious, you know. I was anxious in that first round to get going and excited and had to wait a little bit just because I was second to last to go. So, but it was fun. It was just a great experience.

48:53Pat McAfee:How'd you feel about the whole process? You know, there's a lot of conversation about the rules and everything like that. You just take the rules for what they are and just do your job or, you know, because the old school days were like 10 outs as a whole. And it was pretty easy to understand. Now it's like, if it's over this, if it's longer than this, you get this. I think they're trying to make it as fair and as big bombs, as many big bombs as possible. Did you have, did you, your dad and brother go through a strategy and what the plan was? Because it felt like ball was coming pretty quick. after ball was sent out.

49:22Pat McAfee:Was that all something that was discussed? Yeah. I mean, I think you had more time than you realized, you know. Obviously, with the new format and the time being a part of it, there is a little bit of strategy involved in the sense of, you know, you don't want to go too fast, but you also want to make sure that you get all the balls in and you get enough swings in time. So it's kind of interesting, you know, where they're at with it. And, you know, you watch a guy like O 'Neal Cruz last night who went 512 feet. which was absolutely amazing. I've never seen anything like that before. But at the same time, you almost want to, you know, admire it a little more and you want the crowd to be involved.

49:59You want to be able to watch those and not have to, you know, pan back and go watch him take the next swing before it's even landed. So I think, you know, finding a happy medium there in the sense of maybe being able to watch some balls go a little further and maybe guys can put a little more thump into it rather than, you know, losing their legs and energy like that. So that could be maybe something in the future. I love that. Love you speaking up, too.

50:22Pat McAfee:I think a lot of people are going to be very appreciative of you speaking up on there. And if it's not as rapid fire, not only can you admire it, people that are maybe taking a knee down on third baseline don't think they're going to get drilled in the temple. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Those kids out there are in arms. Yeah, the kids for sure. Yeah. And somebody snagged a home run, obviously. Congrats to that guy. They counted it. And I guess in the past, there's been a couple that have taken a few. Yeah. Taking a few pumps. But me and Ty taking a knee down the third baseline as you're there because we don't want to be in anybody's way.

50:53Pat McAfee:We're not supposed to be here. They added our seats here. So we are just trying to stay out of the way. And I'm like, legit. Probably needed one. Thought about that a couple different times. Now, we're on a few milligrams, obviously, and we're having a good time. And we're enjoying baseball, obviously. But that big ball goes bang, and then as the ball's landing, holy hell, I hear crack of bat over here. Oh my God, that thing might... Yeah, exactly. I would have been dead. So it is a little bit, you're right. I think we should get the chance to see these bombs, especially with how many left the stadium last night.

51:25Pat McAfee:Truist Park was like the perfect place for it. Did you feel that? Is that optically a good, I assume that's a good park for big ball hitters? That's last night perfect. Yeah, it was great. Right field is a good, that was a good spot. There's lots of fans and you had the chance to clear it, which is what everybody wants to see. And, you know, I mean, that's what fans want to see, right? They want to see, you know, how many balls obviously can leave the yard, but how far they can go. Those are the ones that people remember those. People are going to talk about O 'Neal Cruz's 512-foot home run for a really long time.

51:56Like I said, obviously he didn't end up winning it, but even as a kid for me, it was Josh Hamilton who put on a show at Yankee Stadium and how far he hit the ball. I think, like I said, finding a happy medium there and maybe involving maybe doing a teammate version or like a tag team kind of home run.

52:14Pat McAfee:Oh, now we're thinking, Cal. Now we're thinking. How exhausted are you? I'm good right now. I think I'm still running on some adrenaline, so we'll see how long it wears. Might need some of that Dominican Republic chew. Yeah. I've heard about it. It might need a little bit of that. I've heard of it. That'll kick you in the butt. All right, last question. We know you have to go from AJ here. Yeah, Cal, what was it like with your brother behind the plate? What kind of commentary did you have? I know he was saying some things to you. Was he encouraging you? Did you get to speak back with him at all?

52:45And also, is that mic'd up somewhere that we can actually go back and watch eventually? Yeah, it should be all mic'd up. I was mic'd up. He was mic'd up. You know, he's kind of an awkward teenager, obviously, like anybody. So I had no expectations of him speaking up, but he was pumping me up the whole time. You know, I was kind of surprised. You know, every time I hit a good one, he'd be like, let's go. And just he was kind of hiding my head up, too. Yeah, he was like that back then. I was like, I didn't know he had that in him. So he was bumping me up. And he had a big day yesterday. He's all jacked up.

53:21He got more follows on Instagram. And he got a picture with Livvy Dunn. He was just, I mean, he lived his best life yesterday.

53:28Pat McAfee:Hey, he won the Home Run Derby. That's a 15-year-old. He's literally living the dream. Well, congratulations to you. Congratulations to your family. Enjoy this entire All-Star work event for you guys. And that's what we learned. You guys don't get a lot of praise. The baseball players, everybody else is like Pro Bowl, All-Star thing. He's like kind of a break a little bit, like enjoy. Baseball, they're working. Yeah. We are. For you and you. It's an honor. And we're thankful you're representing the entire sport. Thank you for your kindness. Congrats on winning. Ladies and gentlemen, big domper, Kyle Rowley.

54:02Pat McAfee:Hey, Dom. He was really nice to us. He's the man. He is. Watch it. Before he warmed up. So they all had time to BP with their pitcher and with their catcher and the mechanics of moving the L shield or something. L screen, yep. Yeah, because some people are closer, some people are further, you know, because you're allowed to move that. I guess I think we were told Harper and his dad. Like on top of each other almost. Like, oh, like right, like almost. Like you're throwing soft toss to them all? No, but I think he was. He's just slinging it. I think he was firing it in there. Yeah, so all the L screen moves the distance.

54:38Pat McAfee:And then some guys were way back. Interesting. Yeah, it was a – It's a bit of a game. You got to find – you got to not wear yourself out in warm-ups too. The pitchers are – They're the game. They are. Yes. They are very much in too. Like when we were walking around for BP or beforehand, it's like the pitchers know like this one's kind of on us. Yeah. Because if you – for holding, I think I could miss a kick for a kicker if I wanted to. So if this is the football, boom, it's the football right here. Fox, can you get this one? So this is the football right here. Let's say it's a righty kicker. I'm over here.

55:12Pat McAfee:Okay? Most tilts for a righty kicker soccer style, you just kind of move it down this way right here. Okay? Takes away the hook natural because their foot's going to come in this way. Okay? So, like, normally you lean it away from a little bit. Right knee, whenever I'm down, is where I'm leaning. If I was just to do that, miss, guarantee. That's a miss, guarantee. Like, if it's a 25-yard kick, might be able to sneak it in. But if you literally just hold it like this and just go bang, that's a guaranteed. 40-yard kick, no chance. Now, granted, the kicker might see it, oh, this holder's crap, and, like, play the shit that's about to come in.

55:48Pat McAfee:But how quick the op is, like, if a holder really, it's a miss. That home run derby is the exact same thing. Oh, yeah. Especially with the limited amount of pitches. You throw low and outside or something, and it just tails a little bit, and it hits the button, no chance of that thing going. And some guys are waiting for it high, and then for 15 straight seconds, so we don't have a high one. And then all of a sudden you're rushing at the end. It's like the pitchers need more love. And they need more credit in this entire thing. Well, and I talked to Cal's dad after they did, I think, their second round of BP.

56:19And he was like, you know, the switch hitting part's tough because as a lefty, he wants it middle, middle. As a righty, he wants it, you know, kind of low and away. He was like, you know, you get locked in on a spot and then he switches sides and it's like, oh, okay, now I got to drill this spot. Like that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of pressure. In the middle of the derby.

56:35Pat McAfee:It's like, all right, he's flipping over to the right side. Not only does he have to warm up this side of the bat again, Dad has to also... Come behind it. All right, we're going this way. Yeah, it was a spectacular event. Yeah, without a doubt. I didn't watch the TV portion. A lot of people say, hey, we need this. The rules, too, I think the 10. It feels like everybody knows it. Yeah, they need you three-point competition rules.

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58:03Pat McAfee:Sports are happening and we are so incredibly lucky to talk about it every single day. We just had a moment happen right there that I haven't got to experience a lot of. And I'll tell you what, it really made my soul kind of flutter a little bit. Sure. It's not just because I get a chance to chit-chat with the Talks at the Table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. You boys look fantastic. Shout out to baseball. Shout out. It's not just because nine-year NFL vet D. You want to take it from the top? You hit a putt. Long night. You want to take it? I was going to try to tie in the collusion case that's going on in the NFL.

58:37Pat McAfee:And that was just a little bit of an aggressive take. I don't think I should have been doing that. There's a lot happening in the NFL and the NFLPA. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Great to see you again. Pretty huge. Last time it was fun. It was. Do you guys have any little Jack and Diets out there? What? We had a few of you. Dude. Sorry, can I talk about that for a second, actually? It was delightful, yes. The suite we were in, Fox, you can attest to this. This was wild. We actually didn't have... Just first of all, I just want to let you know, you saying the suite we were in and then going on to say whatever you're about to say right now is tough for me to have any empathy for.

59:12Once again, I was in the broadcast. I was broadcasting as well.

59:16Pat McAfee:Me, Gump. Gump had his headset on. The suite was nice. Called the first five pitches. It was great. It was sweet. Sweet was great as well. Very nice. Everyone in there was really cool. For the 20 minutes, we stopped in there. The bartender there, I asked for a Jack and Diet. They didn't have Jack, so it was a whiskey diet. And Foxy had a... Didn't have to. Should have walked out. I thought about it. There's a reason I didn't stay. Fairies, I went to that broadcast booth. But just a regular, hey, I just want a whiskey diet. Okay, I don't need any bells and whistles. this lady who is a bartender very nice great vibes I feel great about my order in the fact that she's making it and she starts to make it one shot two shots three shots a little splash of coke she thought you were tied on a Monday night I was like thank you I take one sip of the thing and then just watch the ice melt because I can't drink it it was a nightmare what are you talking about You ordered a Ty Schmidt?

1:00:23That's the thing I didn't. I didn't say, hey. I didn't order a Ty Schmidt. Can I get a Jack with a little Coke? That's the Ty Schmidt. Oh, sorry. The lady tried to hook you up a little bit more wisdom.

1:00:32Pat McAfee:And I appreciate it very much. You have to be very direct whenever you're ordering this. Because a lot of people, what I've learned, and once again, there's people that would like me dead. So maybe they would just put stuff in my drink to kill me. But there are a lot of people that serve food and booze that happen to be fans of our particular program. And they all think that they're hooking me up. Sure. So they all, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You want one, don't you? Well, you know, and it's like, no, I don't. I really like the taste of Jack and dieting. Yeah. You know, I don't mind it. So I get a tall glass single shot.

1:01:03Pat McAfee:So then it's kind of just like a, you got to explain that, I think. I think that's on you. See, it's funny you said it because it came up. Why didn't you just say, can I get a single? I feel as though in situations where maybe a fan of the program is pouring you a drink, you can kind of read that situation and let them know. This was not a fan of the program. And I also feel – This lady hated my gut. She was so nice. She was so nice. That's what made it hard. I also feel like typically, if you're just asking a bartender, you don't have to tell them, hey, let's booze. No, you do. Yeah, you do. They're doing you the ultimate favor.

1:01:38They don't think they're helping you out. Absolutely. 100 % of anyone I've ever come across will say, thank you so much. If you put three shots in a one-shot –

1:01:45Pat McAfee:Now granted, John Taffer, Bar Rescue, will say that that bartender's going into business for themselves. They are. Because they're giving you a little extra booze, so you give them a little extra tip. And who's getting screwed? We all. The restaurant. That's why we need this POS system. And they put the bottles on there and do the whole thing. Yeah. So that's a big part of Bar Rescue. With that being said, shout out to all the bartenders. Love them. That have certainly given me a little bit extra whenever I've only ordered. Maybe one shot. Maybe we'll get a shot and a half, two and a half shots.

1:02:10Pat McAfee:Sure. That'd be fine. Once again, gentlemen, okay? I'm getting six shots In a little jacket diet That I just wanted to sip on This lady down in Atlanta Trying to take care of you boy I agree And you don't even understand Foxy did you get the same situation? Yeah I got Tito's soda Three shots of vodka In that thing Yeah but that's a Foxy It was like a trailer park boys gift Where the guy takes a sip And just boom boom boom Falls over the stage It was brutal But she was so nice I didn't have anything to say Oh boo hoo for these guys Well no Everybody's there It was Monday. Any other day. It was a home run derby.

1:02:49Pat McAfee:It was a home run derby night. It was so hot out. Now, to be clear, Ty actually ordered me my jacking diets last night. When they showed up, they were a little saucy. I also walked over to the table they were sitting on. Ty fucking full hand in drink, stirring. It was two fingers. Yeah, right. It was in there. This thing was stirring. And then he goes, here you go. And he gives me the other one or whatever. So I only am. I mean, there was seemingly a little swirl to my drink. There certainly was not. I would never do that. That was awesome. I would never do that. Did you just finger the shit out of my drink?

1:03:30Pat McAfee:No, I mixed in a little lime into his. Not into mine. It was very kind. But it was a Ty Schmidt Jack and Diet. And we go out onto the field with this. And didn't even think we should not do that. Well, that's when I got out there. and I was like, man, there are a lot of kids around here. And guess what? None of the players are drinking. Nobody. We're the only ones. That's why we ended up going all the way. We started getting away from party. We appreciate the hospitality. I love Derby. I love Derby as well. And I also love that the bartender lady in the suite's like, these bottles are only good for one night.

1:04:01Pat McAfee:So you're going to have to drink them. A man who thought that the bartender was just trying to help you out and the reason why we are so excited about today, a man who said sports on time. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawkins. Go Red Likes. Thank you to the bartender, I would say. That's what I'd say, too. You can hand it to somebody that wants a heavy, stiff pool. Why don't you get a cup of diet? Yeah. Yeah. You guys are right. I'm the cunt, okay? You guys are right. I don't think you get much sympathy there. I asked for a little drink, and they gave me a mask.

1:04:36I shouldn't have asked. You know what? I'm never going to order a drink again. How about that? Oh, my God. What if you asked somebody for a cigarette and they gave you a whole pack? Are you going to be pissed? That's a completely different situation. That's great. All right. Do I just love all of them at once?

1:04:51Pat McAfee:Can we talk a little bit about drama that's happening in the sports world, not just in your ordering world? And by the way, I don't think you're that. Nobody in the world. Also, sorry. I didn't mean to say that, per se. Slipped through. Yeah, made it on ESPN. I don't use that word, okay? I apologize. Yeah, you really went for it there. I don't think that's what you are. Teddy Bridgewater situation is really interesting. Very much so. Okay, now there's different numbers coming out, like the amount of money that he spent on his players, rehabilitation, Uber, food, transportation, things like that.

1:05:23Pat McAfee:So that is the narrative that is from the Teddy Bridgewater camp because he's been suspended for a year from a league, I guess, that he no longer coaches. His statement's like, I can't be suspended for something I'm not coaching because he's now back with the Lions or whatever. He won state championship as a high school state coach. Dominant. Watching his team every week. We enjoyed the ride watching Teddy B lead his squad down there in South Florida to win a state championship. So now he gets suspended, and I assume we all think that the suspension looming was the reason why he left and went to the Detroit Lions maybe or who knows what was going to happen.

1:05:59Pat McAfee:Nonetheless, interesting thing to do to a coach in the modern world that we're in, especially with the way the NIL is. I assume the other people are saying he wasn't paying for Ubers, he was buying cars and all this stuff. It's like, is that against the rules? I don't know if that's against the rules. I don't fully comprehend why this would happen. This feels like one of those NCAA things back in the day, not now, NCAA. You guys have changed and you guys care about things that matter. You guys invest resources and things that are going to make the lives of student human athletes better and everything like that.

1:06:34Pat McAfee:But back in the day, the NCAA just used to investigate the most dumb things. It's like, why are you, and why, there's this going on. Why would you do that? This doesn't make any sense. From what I've read about this situation, this feels very stupid, and this feels like they were trying to get Teddy Bridgewater the hell out of the league. I hate it, man. You're a South Florida guy. Yeah, South Florida guy. He's obviously a South Florida guy. Miami guy went back to his alma mater, Miami Northwestern, after I think they went like 4-6 maybe the previous year before he took over, and then he goes on and wins like a 6-8 state championship in Florida, which is a huge deal.

1:07:04And Teddy, you know, Foxy knows this. Anybody that knows this, any program he's been a part of, he's always been a stand-up guy, a class act. I believe he even self-reported some of this stuff. So in the things, you look at the list, Uber rides, you know, rehab, all this, you know, feeding kids. Field paint, paint for the field so they can have lines in the field. This is shit that we all would hope a coach or somebody in the position to be able to bless others would do. So for him to be punished like this is absolutely ridiculous, man. The impact that I know he's had on his community, not only being a player, but well beyond his years on the field, even though he's still playing.

1:07:40Pouring into those young men, man. Hats off to Teddy, man. I hope this all gets sorted out and he's back on the sideline, coach. Because this is what young kids needed. This is what I needed. I needed a Teddy Bridgewater or a guy like that or a young lady like that in your life looking after young kids. So I hope this gets figured out. But it sounds very, very dumb.

1:07:57Pat McAfee:In the world we're in right now, I don't know how this is even still – I don't get it. We have kids on our show. We're very lucky. We have kids commit to colleges, and they got like DoorDash right here. Raising canes. Right here. They got all these things. So they're allowed to get deals from people they don't know. I would assume that their explanation when they suspend them is that other teams can't do this. Other teams' coaches maybe not have the money to do that. But you shouldn't punish Teddy for that. Yeah. What if it was a parent of a kid? This all feels so stupid to me. this just feels dumb and I think everybody is on the same side.

1:08:36Pat McAfee:I think everybody thinks this feels dumb. It feels like an agenda. It feels like one of those agenda but also I assume there's somebody down there who's like precedent. Are they saying he's recruiting players there illegally? That's the only thing you can do in high school if they claim you're bringing people in and saying hey he lives and giving them different actions. Is that not allowed anymore? At this stage of life now, yeah, that's what I'm saying. With how everything is wide open. Literally, NIL just kind of opens up the door for everything. You got a lot of millionaires, 16, 17. Yeah, I mean, even when we had Derrick Queen on.

1:09:06Like, Derrick Queen, the center from Maryland during March Madness, he did his entire post-game press conference, and when he talked about the coach, he's like, well, the money I'm getting is coming out of his pocket.

1:09:17Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's college, though, they're saying, saying the high school doner, whatever the case. Teddy B., we appreciate you looking out for your players. That feels like a waste of energy. Well, that's what it is. I mean, you hit the nail on the head. I would guess that it's the other coaches who are like, hey, this guy came in. This team was four and six before he got here, and then he runs roughshod and wins a state championship. Like, this is bullshit. We got to get this guy out of here. I also know the NFL has a situation living right now, and it's summer. So this is certainly a thing. We've alluded to it a couple times.

1:09:48Pat McAfee:The only reason why we haven't dove into it yet, first of all, we were awful last week when this thing was all kind of happening. But also, trying to call and get actual information about this has been very difficult. I would say that from my own point of view. I know a lot of people on both sides of this. Nobody's saying anything about anything, basically. I think there's people that aren't in necessarily the home office in the NFLPA that are like, we don't know. And also, I don't think we're allowed to even act like we. I think there's something very big happening with the NFL and the NFLPA.

1:10:25Pat McAfee:with collusion where the executive director of the nflpa potentially in a consulting firm like there is a lot going on here but i think whenever old buddy here was hired to become the head of the nflpa there was some sort of legal thing happening yes somewhere else as well so it feels like that does happen with this particular gentleman a couple different times but the nflpa people whenever they voted him in look out were like um he's great for us like he's good for us and it felt like there was a very positive reaction to how he was leading and i think a lot of people liked him so then i think a lot of people potentially blindsided by this potentially being a thing so i think there's a lot more questions right now than there are answers and i think there's an actual investigation happening potentially into it all i don't know if that's by their own parties if that's by an outside source who's doing the invest but i just know that there is uh there's a real thing that's happening and i have no clue what it is because i've not been able to get to the bottom of it i think there's a lot of headlines there's a lot of things being talked about but i don't know the actuality of what's going on which is why we have not addressed it to be clear i am somebody who has not been easy on the nfl pa and i don't think i've been easy on the nfl i think i view myself as a business person even though people you know see me as a big dumb doofus i and the nfl pa have had a lot of disagreements on how money is being managed what deals are being signed how much licensing percentages are going where how they treat the players how they act players how where money's going how many people are employed by the NFLPA.

1:11:46Pat McAfee:How many people need... So many questions about the NFLPA. I am... I actually didn't even sign up for the NFLPA, I think, like, the last two years of my career because I didn't want to sit in the meetings because anytime I'm in an evening, it's just like, that's bullshit. You just said there, that's bullshit. And it's at the end of a long day. I don't need to hold up everybody's day. So that is really my relationship with the NFLPA. It's not a good one. Never has been a good one. And on the other side of the NFL, it's like, we have to be able to negotiate a better deal with the NFL. And why is everything an absolute war?

1:12:11Pat McAfee:It's like, well, because that's how Demore Smith was. Now, this guy, I don't think, was the exact same way. So, the betterment of ball, this isn't a bunch of real shit, because anytime you get turmoil like this, then you get disagreements, then you get business, bad business, and that's bad for all of us. I think each side needs to know that they need each other and they need to work together, but if there's collusion and fraud, all these things that are getting thrown out there, that's not good for relationship between NFL and NFLPA. Well, and that's what's weird when you say how when he first got the job, they were excited about it and like, hey, this is going to be a good situation.

1:12:42All that previous stuff, whether they're allegations or it was actually happening, the PA was aware of that. It's not like this stuff all came out after he got the job. I suppose maybe you knew that something could happen, but yeah, this whole situation is crazy. Who started the investigation? Who said, hey, we're going to investigate the PA? Or are they saying, we're hiring a third party so we get in front of this?

1:13:08Pat McAfee:I talked to multiple people yesterday, and I've never had this reaction from anybody. What did they say? They don't know? They were saying, we don't know, and also we're not allowed to really. In the dark. Yeah, yeah. Wild. Gag orders or whatever? It's like a very, yeah. It feels like they don't think it could be, but they also think it could not like. Could just be nothing. Feels like everybody's out of the loop. Yeah. The biggest issue for me as a former player, and even if I was a player, if there was some type of backdoor agreement that the players weren't aware of or even like the player reps weren't necessarily revved, That would be a big issue.

1:13:44The quote-unquote collusion between the owners, I don't think that would take anybody by surprise after the Watson deal came out. Like, yeah, they probably had a conversation. This is what they do, the one per club meeting. That wouldn't surprise anybody involved in football, watches football, know anything about the National Football League. But the two sides maybe in secret doing some shit shady, that would be an issue. Now, I don't know the ins and outs of what's going on here, but I'm sure at some point somebody will get to the bottom of it. We'll have some more shit to talk about.

1:14:14Pat McAfee:Tagliabue was before Goodell. I guess he had a great relationship with the NFLPA, right? I think he had. There was a guy who was Gene Upshaw was running the NFLPA, right? Yeah, I think they had a very good relationship. Such a good relationship that I think there was like people thought this was the case, but it was like I think they got along pretty well from my understanding. Because I was always like, why do we hate the NFL? Why are we walking in negotiations just like – Let's do this. How do we – In my eyes, that has not been the easiest way to do business. Now, don't be scared to put this up if you have to, but I don't think the entry conversation should be, hey, we're ready to fucking kill you.

1:14:55Pat McAfee:I don't think that should be the first combo. I think if we get to the end, you can do it. So I always ask those questions. They said, well, the union in the NFL used to have a good relationship, and then there was a bunch of people that thought maybe it was too good a relationship, and then the lockout happens, and then it's like... It doesn't have to be. They don't have to have a bad relationship. Look at the NHL. Yeah, look at the other CBAs. Exactly. The NHL, the NBA. They're getting those done years in advance. You would assume that's because their relationship is really good. What's going on in the – I talked to Mr.

1:15:23Pat McAfee:Bors. Yeah. Scott Bors yesterday. He runs. The MLB has a pretty good setup for their players. Feels like. Yeah. Feels like it's a pretty good setup for the players. Especially if you're repped by him. What are – He looked awesome. Yeah. He's been running the show for a long time. Long time. Slicked back hair. Clean. Yeah. Not a single. Buttoned-down shirt. Okay, top couple loose. Tucked into jeans. Tailored to his legs. Jeans tailored to his legs. Sick Cole Hawn-looking shoes. And then he just looks so cool. Then he turned around. I shook his hand. I congratulated him on cornering a market like an entire league.

1:16:01Pat McAfee:That's not something that just happens. Your name is synonymous with great deals for players. Congratulations. and then boom we got right into a 10 to 15 minute conversation about mlb players uh collective bargaining the deals negotiations where baseball was where baseball is everything you're just talking about an onslaught of information coming out of this guy's head i'm like jesus why don't you come over to the nfl uh yeah yeah let's go over uh to the players or whatever because he has ideas obviously for all these other leagues you know i would assume that he is prognosticated on what the other leagues need to do because he's kind of done what he's done for the players in the majors.

1:16:34Pat McAfee:It was a crazy combo. It was very enlightening. It was like, holy shit, this guy just gave me a lot of game right now. We were, I don't want to say we were boozed up, but we had a couple of Ty Schmitz down at that point. Certainly. We were standing in a circle in the club area and he just broke down the entire business. Me and Ty were like, holy shit, thank you for that, man. Can we talk to you? Me and Ty walked away. He was like, that guy just broke down the entire fucking MLB to us or whatever. He literally cheersed our drinks. I'm like, all right, we'll get the hell out of here. I don't know if I can change anything, brother, but I appreciate it.

1:17:02Pat McAfee:They got a good set up the nflpa and the nfl i never i don't know you basically talked to both sides for baseball you talked to the uh commish yeah you talked to scott so what's the chance you think a salary cap actually happens in mlp i think there's no chance i i think there is that's gonna be a tough one toothpaste is already out of the tooth yeah bingo just kind of go this is just like nil like i don't know how they're gonna stop this i don't know how they stop the freight train i have no idea how you do it because anytime you stop money from going to somebody or a group of people there's going to be a lot that's just going to happen especially whenever it's a lot of money so it's like i think it's going to be tough to put salary cap onto it now granted it sounds like for the good of baseball and the system of baseball and all that shit there's going to be a big push for it and i would assume for the state of baseball there's probably a lot of need for it i would assume but it's gonna be tough to get everybody to in on that like i don't think you're gonna get they literally canceled a season of hockey over that issue it was the salary cap was the main concerned and they lost an entire season to it.

1:18:00So that's the kind of damage you're talking about. Like if like the commissioner and owners really want to try and force it through and they're all on the same page on it. And I don't know that they are, but if they are, that's the kind of outcome you could.

1:18:11Pat McAfee:And the owners can sway the public opinion. The owners always win the public opinion because the owners are going to be there long after these players. Yep. I mean, these spoiled millionaires are just here for a couple years. We're going to be here for the city forever. You know, these guys are lucky to wear our uniform, represent our city. We're a pillar of the community. This is what we're giving them. Think about if this was you. Think about walking into your house, telling your family, this is what you're being on. This is what these spoiled athletes are being on. That's what they do around every CBA negotiation.

1:18:43Pat McAfee:They get those things out through journalists on TV who have their sources coming from one side of the negotiation and be like, my sources are telling me that the NFL is offering up All the good things are the deal. Bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da, bang-da. And then the players have never. The players have never. Come out. Players don't have that built-in years and years of legacy media to push your narrative through the media because players come and go so much. The PA is around, yeah, but players don't have that relationship with the insiders that may be, hey, here's a nice little pup.

1:19:19This is the great things we are doing. They don't have to tell them, hey, make the players look terrible, make us look good. It just naturally happens.

1:19:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. And I think it's also maybe the players don't think that that is a focus. Players of all leagues need to understand that that is a very important role. The outside pressure is literally what makes deals happen in this particular situation. A lot of people don't know the difference between a strike and a lockout, too. We got locked out in the NFL. People are like, oh, you guys strike? It's not us, bud. We were not picketing, brother. They lock the doors and say you can't come in. I think some people don't even understand the difference in that. I was not allowed to talk to people that worked for the Colts during the entire time.

1:19:55Pat McAfee:We were not even allowed to text each other. We had to get a – oh, okay, so that came out. We won the Super Bowl when I was in Green Bay, and then we got locked out in March. We had to get, like, a special exemption to have our ring ceremony. So we all flew back in June to Green Bay, got our Super Bowl rings, and then had to leave. You were allowed to talk to each other. Yeah, technically you're allowed. I think they maybe even said something like, oh, you can't be talking ball. I'm like, oh, yeah, we were trying to talk ball. Come here and get our Super Bowl rings, not just drink 15 drinks and get our rings and be excited and celebrate together.

1:20:22But we – yeah, there was, like, a special thing for us just to get together and do that.

1:20:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, no talking to each other, okay? We're not friends in this entire thing. Also, no insurance from us. You guys are going to have to figure that out yourself. Get some Cobra. Go ahead, get Cobra. Yeah, you better start saving this thing to be a long time. Do you guys have more money or do we have more money? We'll see. We'll see how that goes. And that was the NFL's entire plan was like, these guys will run out of money. They'll have to get a deal. That was literally their strategy. It was like, these guys are going to run dry. They're going to start complaining. And when they do that, then we get a deal done.

1:20:55Pat McAfee:And it's like, as players, you're never going to be able to keep up with them if that's the case. Which is why I don't think you should try to get into a pissing match with billionaires. I think you should try that. The only power you have as a player is to sit out, is to strike. That's like the main, the threat of missing games to the owners. And players don't want to miss. Your career is too short. I don't want to miss a game. I don't want to miss five games. I mean, now, too, like, the career is too short. It isn't even a thought because NIL, like, the second-round pick debacle. Yeah, this is interesting.

1:21:20Pat McAfee:30 of 32 second-round picks have not signed. and the reason why it's a big story is because Chargers reported because they're in the Hall of Fame game, and their second rounder did not report. So now this is like the first time where they can actually say, hey, we have some news, second rounder hasn't reported. Now, I believe what happened with the second rounders. Now, because we assume these draft picks are slotting what money you're going to make. That's why the Shamar Stewart thing with Cincinnati is so interesting out of nowhere because we thought we had this figured out with the CBA. And when we think about the second rounders, when I first hear about this, I'm like, hey, second rounders, The NFL does not care if you sign.

1:21:54Pat McAfee:Like, that's my first natural reaction. These teams do not care if you sign. This league will have its season next year with or without a second-round class. But I do appreciate the fact that the second-rounders are seeing some other teams do some things, and they're going, wait a minute, if that's available, we'd like to do that too, looking out for their clients. But I think inevitably the teams hold all the cards here. But I didn't know that we had so much wiggle room in the CBA with the draft picks. Did you know this? I did not know that. I thought it was all pop, pop. that's why the Shamar Stewart thing I was like what are we doing dude and then you start learning it's like well he tried to drop something new and I was like I didn't know you were allowed to drop something new I thought this was signed sealed delivery with new CBA seems like there's certainly options for teams at least definitely something I was a second round pick many moons ago and it was actually another second round pick same team Ron Brace guy right so he went 40 I went 41 and just it was like alright what did the guy get before the year before we're gonna fall right back in that slot and it was certain little languages like you know maybe having some money deferred until the next season or different things like that but not huge huge issues 30 of 32 guys that doesn't happen by coincidence I think it's something you know who are the two guys that so do we know so the first pick of the second round the Browns linebacker Sweshinger yeah right and then I think the real problem is the Texans gave Higgins Jaden Higgins a fully guaranteed contract and if I remember he was in the 40s or 50s and he got fully guaranteed.

1:23:19So, I mean, I assume if you're the 33rd pick and you get the fully guaranteed deal, that's one thing. But if you're in the 40s to 50s range, which, again, I'm not 100 % sure when Higgins got picked, but if you're in that range, I assume that becomes a problem.

1:23:32Pat McAfee:Well, good luck to everybody signing their deals. It's all drama. It's summer. Yep. Football's going to happen. Yes, it is. High school football is three weeks away in Georgia. That's what I learned. Exactly. Because this kid's, like, in season shape. And it's like, what's the schedule like now for you? We got workouts or whatever? He's like, I got camp coming up. I'm like, camp? He's like, three weeks we got a game. I'm like, football season three weeks away? Excuse me, high school kid. You just reminded me. Football season is three weeks away? He's like, yeah, we got a game three weeks or whatever.

1:23:59I'm like, Tyler, great news.

1:24:02Pat McAfee:He's like, yeah, I'm excited. I'm like, me too. Football season is right around the corner. But until then, we got bullshit. Yeah. Even the Hall of Fame game is in July. It's two weeks. On that note, we will be live. From Canton, Ohio, at the Hall of Fame, day of this Chargers-Lions game, July 31st. And we can't thank the Hall of Fame enough for the hospitality. They're putting us, I believe, right on the front steps. Oh, sweet. So I think we're going to be right on the front steps, celebrating the launch of a new season, celebrating a new class of Hall of Famers, and celebrating the greatness that the game has displayed for over 100 years over there in beautiful Canton, Ohio.

1:24:44Pat McAfee:AJ Hawk, we're going over to Ohio, doing a show. Yeah, I've been to Canton a few times for different lacrosse and old soccer tournaments for my kids, so it'll be fun to be there. I tell you what, that area around the stadium is pretty sweet. Okay, so I've never been to the Hall of Fame. I've never gone through the Hall of Fame. I think obviously we're going to get to do that. I think we're going to watch the game. I think we're going to do the show. I think we're going to talk to some Hall of Famers. We're going to kick off a new season of the NFL. Cannot wait to be over there. Come see us. I think you're going to be able to come see us.

1:25:10Pat McAfee:Nice. I think they're going to have it. That's cool. I think it's going to be a pretty open area set up there for the entire thing. Come see us. Chargers Lions, Foxy, kicking it all off. MCDC versus horrible. I'm fired up. I just can't wait to see MCDC in the flesh, just how big, muscular, and ready to go he's going to be. After watching that quarterback series, I've never been more pumped up to have a great head coach and to have a great quarterback. This is all that matters. I'm fired up. Let's head over to Hammer. Don, Don. Hey, Pete Tone, how's it going, pal? What's up, brother? How is it going?

1:25:42Pat McAfee:It's been a great show so far. Hey, thank you. How about Tyler going? to Texas. How about Big Dumper hitting big bombs? Him saying the 10-ounce will be good. What are you guys gambling on right now at Hammer Dime? Are we looking ahead? Are we doing futures bets at this point? Or what are you kind of thinking about whenever we're eyeing sportsbooks? We are 100 % looking ahead. This is the driest, slowest week of sports in the entire calendar year. Because Wimbledon just ended. We're coming up on the U.S. Open for golf, so we'll be gambling on that. But as far as the major sports the major u.s sports are concerned this is the slowest week because obviously the baseball all-star game is is happening tonight but after that you know nba is done nhl is done we're looking forward to college football and nfl um so that's kind of what we're looking at the u.s open is kind of the big gambling opportunity this week yeah tomorrow the only thing on is the w uh all other the only thing all other four major sports usually there's two sports maybe three sports on.

1:26:41The only thing tomorrow is the big dub. Clear to dance force.

1:26:46Pat McAfee:Are they treating this as if it is like the NBA on Christmas? I think they should be. But it used to be. Now they need to move. NBA needs to move Christmas Eve. That is a decision that needs to happen. Adam Silver, I don't know if you still watch program or if this clip will make it to you. Sorry. It happened. The Grinch stole Christmas. And the Grinch is Goodell. You need to move Christmas Eve. Because we're all at home. on Christmas Eve, and we're thinking to ourselves, we got four NBA games tomorrow. We got three NFL games tomorrow. And right now, what do we got? Shit. Can we just pull? Let's do Christmas Eve.

1:27:21Yeah. Need a Lakers game on at 10 p.m. Eastern. Who's going to be playing for the Lakers? I don't know from the sounds of it, maybe not LeBron. Oh!

1:27:29Pat McAfee:Have we gotten to the bottom of that at all? Well, what was it? Right after we had the discussion last week or before we were on break, and then now all of a sudden they're saying, hey, multiple teams have reached out. Four teams. Yeah, they want to trade for LeBron. I did send a text to ask if the Pacers are one of the teams. I didn't see that. That'd be stupid. Yes. First one to call, I assume. So what I was told was no. Oh, okay. Why not? Why wouldn't they go after him? You told me. That's what my question was. Is he going to play for the Lakers, though, for real? Yes. Is it possible that he's not with the Lakers?

1:27:59A thousand percent. A thousand percent? I wouldn't be shocked if he's not there.

1:28:03Pat McAfee:UD said that he thought Giannis with Milwaukee, too. He'll stay there. Yeah, I can see that, too. Yeah. He didn't say that. Well, can LeBron win at all? When he was talking to Speed. Speed stream. Yeah, Speed just beat RG3 in a race in Estonia. I don't know if you saw Speed. I don't know if we need to be. I was going to say, he wasn't the only one that beat RG3. RG3 has had a. Is he what? The internet is. His name's Speed. The internet's an interesting place. Should not be racing Speed. We need maybe Scoot, Scotty Miller. Yeah, okay. Go. We need to go race Speed. Scoot, that'd be good. Huh? Still bringing it?

1:28:37Scoot?

1:28:38Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yes. What made you say Scotty Miller? In my head, thought quickly of a Caucasian flash. And Scoot, Scoot, Scotty Miller was the first name that popped in my mind. Do you have any – do you have any – I bet Amendola can still run. See, now you're just making them all. Amendola, I appreciate you. And also Speed got – Speed got Speed. We need the halftime show kid from Iowa. Well, the track guy. Yeah, I forget his name. What about the dude that runs the warning track that races everybody? Freeze. Freeze. He's more of a striped. He's more of a striped. Yeah, he got his ass beat the other night.

1:29:15By speed? No. Somebody. One lady ran track in high school. Yeah. She's a cop in Georgia, I believe. And she was striped. She dusted Freeze's ass.

1:29:25Pat McAfee:So Freeze got to retire now? Can he put somebody else in a costume? Is it over? I don't know. I was going to say, he's not the same Freeze he was a couple years ago. How about Blooper? We got a chance to see Blooper do his thing. That's the Atlanta Braves. Yeah, I've never seen anyone ditch a gimmick that fast in my entire life. Ditch a gimmick? What do you mean? I personally am a mascot guy, okay? I respect them. I honor them. I mean, the guy walks over and says, hey, what's up, man? I'm a blooper. He's not supposed to speak, right? Why the hell are you? Hey, hey, blooper, shut up, okay? Mascots don't talk, dude.

1:30:02Why are you saying stuff to me? So immediately I'm like, okay, well, this isn't a real mascot. This guy doesn't know shit about the game. He's not committed. You don't think he respects the game because he wanted to come over and say hello? Immediately my thought is this kid shouldn't be talking.

1:30:15Pat McAfee:Kid, he's an adult. Yeah, come on. You're right. This guy cut his teeth. He did. This guy cut his teeth in Japan. He's an adult. He speaks Japanese to the Japanese players because he cut his teeth as a mascot in Japan. He shouldn't be speaking at all. Yeah, exactly. Ohio to you too, brother. I'm just saying, man. Hey, shut up. Your job isn't to talk. I love his personality. I loved his moxie. He and I got a chance to make a video for the Oregon Duck because the Oregon Duck came in here and made a shot, and we did it. I didn't remember doing that, obviously, but it was explained to me by blooper the video we were going to make.

1:30:55Obviously, he talked to you. That was all in sign language. That was silent. He doesn't talk to the camera, right?

1:31:02Pat McAfee:he doesn't talk as a mascot if he sees guys that he likes or knows I think he will come up and say hello he talked to me a little bit as a mascot hey I'm Bull Bird nice to meet you no he didn't see yeah that's why you know why you know he didn't do it because if he didn't do it then you would think oh it's a good mascot but he didn't do that he said like hey what's up man my name's Jeff or whatever that's exactly what he did and I was like dude come on man Like, come over, do the whole like... And then say... So when you go to the mall, Christmas time. Yeah, I do that. Turns out it's not. Yeah, what's that?

1:31:39Santa. He works for Santa.

1:31:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, he works for Santa. He's not a real Santa. When you're sitting on his lap, can you tell him that? You know what? That guy has a different job for 11 and a half months out of the year, and it's not Santa. Blooper? Hey, buddy, you're full-time blooper. Shut up. Do the blooper thing. I agree. Blooper's probably an attorney or something during the day. Blooper is a full-time. It's kind of concerning that he's speaking to you in that tone. He's got to say hello to Frank. He went in the water after Olsen got knocked out of the home run. He's definitely getting fired now. The first initial contact, it's like, let me see your stuff, kid.

1:32:15Let me see what you've got as a mascot. He does have the hip? He does. What do you mean? I wouldn't know. Because he just came over and immediately was a human. And I was like, no, dude, you're a mascot, and then you're a human. So you should first and foremost play your role, and then after when I'm like, hey, man, you're really good at this shit. Where'd you learn how to be a mascot? Then you tell me your shit. He's just right off the bat like, hey, you guys know my buddy Blue, right? I know. No, dude, I don't know your buddy Blue. I know the guy inside Blue, but I don't want to talk about that guy because that's not who I know.

1:32:48I know Blue, the guy on the outside.

1:32:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, Blue is a weapon. And Blue, if you're listening, feels like the mascot community has got a lot of respect for you. We heard that. We heard that. Yeah, exactly. Get your camp in order, Blue. These guys go back to basics. It sounds like the fundamentals of mascotting are kind of losing its fastball. I don't think that's right. I think mascotting is getting better. This guy cut his teeth in Japan. That's no nonsense. Well, he should have led with that. He should have led with that. He did. He kind of did. He didn't leave that with me. He's just like, hey, you guys know Blue in the duck, right?

1:33:21Like, yeah, dude. Again, what are you doing, man? Like, what if he wouldn't? What if he would have done this whole shtick the whole time and never talked to you like a human? Then you would have just been killing him. Oh, this old grown man. No, no, no. It's the opposite. Then I'm walking away like, hey, just so you guys know, the greatest mascot lives in Atlanta, and his name's Blooper. But instead, there's a guy in a costume. Oh, my God.

1:33:46Pat McAfee:All right, let's talk about a guy who just got paid. Congratulations to Garrett Wilson. big time deal obviously Justin Fields is now his quarterback he remains with the New York Jets where there's massive turnover new coach Aaron Glenn formerly defensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions who is an absolute dog wants his team to resemble that Garrett Wilson by all accounts is that as well a superstar four year 130 million dollar deal obviously the Johnsons had to be on board with this Aaron Glenn had to be on board with this and the entire franchise had to say yeah we would like to keep five in our building as our superstar.

1:34:22Pat McAfee:AJ, your thoughts on Garrett Wilson getting a deal with a new quarterback, new franchise, new everything. That's a lot of money. And I'm not saying he doesn't warrant it. I'm just saying whenever you're a team in turnover, this is an interesting move. I don't think any of us expected this to happen for Garrett Wilson. Congrats to him, especially after year three. Yeah, I mean, we're the Jets, so it doesn't surprise you. Of course, you drafted this guy. He's a franchise cornerstone piece that you have on your offense. Now, yeah, the thing is, you got Justin Fields. What's this offense going to look like?

1:34:47Like, we know the type of production that Garrett Wilson is capable of, but what's the Jets team as a whole? Like, what do they look like now with Aaron Glenn as the head coach?

1:34:54Pat McAfee:How do we feel about the Jets team as a whole, and how do you feel about Garrett Wilson, D-Budge? I mean, you know, it's a new coach, first year at Aaron Glenn, so I still like to give coaches time to kind of implement their culture, get their guys, get their roster, build it up. But to A.J.'s point, this is a guy that you want to build around on the offensive side of the ball. He's been productive year in and year out, regardless of who's taking snaps at quarterback. So I respect that in the National Football League. and now the deal, it looks like it's a great deal for both sides. I'm a former player, so I always want to see the players get the most and reset Marcus and do things like that, but I think it's a good deal value-wise for the Jets.

1:35:27Great deal for him, homegrown talent. And now the question marks in the eyes are going to look on the other side of the ball with a young superstar who we had on a few episodes ago, Sauce Gardner. When is he going to get his new deal? Do they handle that before the season or before training camp starts?

1:35:41Pat McAfee:Shout out to Sauce. Hope he gets all his money. Obviously, good luck with that. Let's go to the other side of the country. You talk about the other side of the ball. the other side of the country. San Francisco 49ers back in some drama. We thought there was a chance, didn't we? This would have been the first year in five years, four or five years, that San Francisco 49ers did not have any contractual drama kind of going on, going into camp. Would be quite an advantage, I think, for a team to not have to do that, but that is something that comes whenever you have so much talent. When you're a good team, a lot of people are going to want your players.

1:36:10Pat McAfee:Players are going to earn a lot of money. Who's going to give them the money? How are we going to get the money? When are we getting the money? I'm done with not getting the money. I need the fucking money now. Okay? That is a lot of what's happening. Jawan Jennings now, out with the San Francisco 49ers. Story is, hey, I need a new contract. I need out of here. Okay? And Jawan Jennings, we've all talked about, an absolute dog, a monster. Blocks downfield. Pancakes people downfield. Basically, the epitome of what a Kyle Shanahan wide receiver is supposed to be. And I think Brock Purdy, obviously, absolutely loves.

1:36:36Pat McAfee:And that whole offense will thrive. Yep. With$7.5 million. I expected, in my mind, when I read, he would be getting paid more money. I thought there was already some sort of deal that has already taken place. But once again, San Francisco 49ers have an abundance of talent, and now they've got to figure it all out yet again. Like you said, this is a guy who wants his money. He wants it now. I think he was second in all the major receiving categories for the Niners last year after George Kittle. You know, he lost Brandon Ayute, who knows when he's going to be full go for this year. So this is a top target going into this season.

1:37:05He blocks his ass off downfield. But I remember watching these games. It felt like Brock Purdy was looking for him on every big third down. So whenever you have a guy that's dependable, that can beat man coverage on third down and is going to do all the dirty work, I haven't really heard anything bad from this guy off the field. So this is a guy that I'm not surprised he wants a little more money with this wide receiver market doing what it's been doing. So I'm always in favor of the players. And John Lynch, I feel like he always finds a way to figure it out. Yeah, he also might see the writing on the wall a little bit.

1:37:32Like he's just seen Debo get paid and then get booted. He sees Iyuk now. He had to go through that whole process to get more money. and now they got Ricky Pearsall, you know, the dude who last offseason got shot. Broad daylight. That was their drama last offseason. Right in the chest. Yeah, which is absurd to think about. But he came on at the end. Yeah, Ricky Pearsall had a great close. That's what we talked about more. Yeah, for sure. Man, amen. I mean, actually. Legit. And then back. He has some leverage, though, I feel like. They need him. Debo's gone. I don't know. I feel like if Brock Purdy has any say in it, he's in there pounding the table for him.

1:38:09Pat McAfee:Let's head over to Hammer. Don, Don. AP Tone, what's up? Yeah, I saw an interesting tweet on this earlier from Spotrack, which is obviously the contract site that is very, very well in the NFL. It says that the 28-year-old projects toward a two-year, $38 million extension based on 2024 production. D-Bott talked about his wide receiver numbers last year being second to only Kittle on the team. So, like, he's only making seven a year, and he's supposed to be making, what, 19 a year? So, yeah, they're getting a deal from him right now. So it makes sense that he wants a new one. I just heard he signed an extension last offseason.

1:38:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was like three years or two years, 15. Good luck, man. Good luck to everybody. Get all your money that you can get. Niners can't be shocked, though. Think about it. They're like, hey, who is underpaid on our roster? If you make it 7.5 this year, I could say they'd be like, all right, I understand why you believe that you're not getting what you deserve. Yeah, with that being said, like, Brock Purdy getting a deal, now it's a whole new world. Yeah. Now it's a whole new, how do you handle it all? Fred Warner got a new deal. Kittle got a new deal. Fred Warner. How about Tyler Atkinson bringing him up?

1:39:10Pat McAfee:I respected him bringing up Fred Warner. When he said Fred Warner, because he's got – Tyler's got Dredge as well, all I thought of was Fred Warner just flying 53 and a third across a field and just killing somebody and then getting on top of him immediately and then running back and doing it again. He's so much – we need the Niners to be worthy of, like, primetime games. For sure. Because they are great for the sport. Yeah. The way that defense plays. And, Tone, you brought this up. I guess it's not NFL conversation. No, it is NFL. Was it NFL or was it college? I forget. Earlier when I came over to you?

1:39:43Pat McAfee:No, defense. Winning. Oh, yeah, that was college. So let's go to college. Let's talk a little college ball here because Greg Sankey is down here doing his thing at the SEC Media Days. I believe Coach Sark will be talking here in a few moments. Obviously, he just got the number one linebacker in the country to commit to him, and I believe Coach Smart and others were speaking throughout the day or whatever it is. But in college, as you're putting together your. Yes, I am. Are you putting together your guide? Yes, the 2025-2026 Need to Know, College Football Need to Know Gambler's Guide. Yeah, we are in the middle.

1:40:14They don't come out later this month.

1:40:16Pat McAfee:This guy's a published author, so we'll be able to get that again. And I can't stress this enough. Last year, I think we were kind of like, make a mockery on a ton doing this. I think we're all kind of like, this is a waste of time. Not in here. No, we just, I think there was a lot of shit being talked about it. Okay? And then once you created it, and we were able to read through it, me, more specifically, for everything I have to do with game day and everything. I thought it was a valuable piece of information heading into a college football season, especially with the amount of change that happens in college football, the amount of players going to different places.

1:40:44Pat McAfee:You brought up a good point as you were doing your research, though, for the need-to-know gambler's guide. It's like, hey, the best defense in the country wins the national championship. That is seemingly kind of the trend that's been happening, right? Is that what you heard? Yeah, I mean, the last two years, two years ago, Michigan won with the number one overall defense. They gave up like 10 points a game, which was historic. that Ohio State last year was the number one overall defense, and they did too. Now their offenses can't be shit, but with J.J. McCarthy and then last year with Ohio State, they didn't have to be great, but when the defense is number one overall, that's something that you look at.

1:41:19And then Texas was the number two overall defense last year, and they have a lot of guys returning, so that was just something that I was looking at for this upcoming season.

1:41:26Pat McAfee:Can't wait to dive into it all. You have to have a great defense to be able to win. Obviously, Will Howard won on a miraculous run with Chip Kelly and all the weapons they had on offense. But their defense had like four different MVPs, basically, on that defense team. Are you guys back again? Is Ohio State going to be good again? I mean, you've got to reload like you always do. But, yeah, they've got a lot of young bucks in the stable. Has you and Bobby Carpenter been over there running sprints with the boys? I have not, but Bobby's birthday is August 1st. He runs 20 half-gassers every birthday.

1:41:52So, look to that.

1:41:52Pat McAfee:Happy birthday, Bob. Happy birthday, General. We have some breaking news out of the NFL. Congratulations to Trey Smith, who is going to be the only guy on the franchise tag this year he reached an agreement before the deadline of the franchise tag negotiation on a four-year 92 million dollar deal that includes 70 million dollars guaranteed it makes him the highest paid guard in nfl history shout out to nate taylor and shefty it's the highest average annual salary and the most guaranteed money ever awarded to an nfl guard hell yeah trey all right you guys like i got to be trey's cool dude good dude great football player obviously an absolute dog his agent jimmy sexton and uh is obviously an absolute dog uh i had a chance to chat with him over the last few days whenever i was trying to get to the bottom of the whole nfl nfl pa thing i'm like i'm calling her but i'm calling every agent i know i'm calling to see what the hell's going on i'm calling the nfl i'm calling the nfl pa because there's some big words there's some big words being thrown around and this is a big business that we really like yeah we really like hey you guys are fucking this up right basically is what i was kind of calling around on this entire thing and uh i love college football season obviously because the college game day crew that's on that set and the cameras and the audio and the truck and the product like those people we live on the road you know great group of people love those people get along very well with those people love every one of those people there's some people in offices sure you know that don't really go through the entire thing and think that nonetheless love that group and all the people that come alongside everybody you know like you get a chance to meet everybody's family like desmond's family comes through it's great to see the boys great to see the team you know reese's family has come by coach saban because he has joined the team obviously herbie got deboned you know the whole crew yeah right this yeah all the Great group of people.

1:43:46Pat McAfee:And Chase Ty. Peter. Jacob. God rest his soul. Coach Saban now. Who are people coming? Jimmy Sexton will travel in. Miss Amy, who works there. They'll travel in and we'll get a chance to see him. This Jimmy Sexton guy, they need to write a book. They need 10 movies about him. Documentaries about this guy. Just this handsome Southern fella who just every, well, everything is possible. And he's got, he's moving pieces all the time. he's one of the best deal makers of all time and uh as soon as i heard that he was on this case i was like well jimmy's not wasting time right now to get a deal done if a deal is not going to get done felt like if jimmy sexton is going to get a deal done a deal was going to get done and i'm happy it did they said it was right there i guess it was right at cutoff because if your franchise tag the date comes which i guess was last night or today uh today at four o 'clock and the date comes i've been franchise tagged so i will say there was zero negotiation until this four o 'clock time from the time i got franchise tagged there was no thought of negotiating a deal but you have until four o 'clock to negotiate a deal on a franchise tag a lot of guys try to get a deal done you know because it's kind of a sign from the and uh from the team like hey you're not going anywhere okay we got you for another year after this if you want so maybe it's a resetting of negotiation so maybe there is a little bit of a reset like hey we're not letting you leave this is your reality so now let's go ahead and negotiate in this reality whenever guys want to get out or whatever nobody likes being franchise tag because there's no long-term security i loved it because i became a millionaire immediately so give me that how much you paying me to kick a ball one year 2.8 million a millionaire done let's go to canada literally went to niagara falls that weekend as soon as i was signing the franchise tag not a lot of people like to do that getting that deal done is huge for trey smith it's also huge for the chiefs going into the year without having to worry about any of that shit you know the offensive line was a big question Yes.

1:45:35Pat McAfee:That was the big question for this entire thing. Now you get a guy taken care of who's very good, and you can just kind of clear your mind of it all. And Trey can be and feel respected and, like, appreciated, which sometimes in business there are some hurt feelings. I'm not saying Trey would ever get that, but I'm happy they got to deal with it. Yeah, and Trey, I think as a player, too, you want to do right by the team that takes care of you like that. Hey, look, I want to prove the team right for paying me. They give me all this money, all this guaranteed money. I'm going to let them know, hey, yeah, it's not wasted.

1:46:00And we all know you can have every piece in place in the world if you are worried about who is going to be starting on the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes, good luck. You need an offensive line.

1:46:09Pat McAfee:We just talk about defense. And, you know, we talked to Lane. We talked to a lot of offensive linemen. I got mad respect for offensive linemen. Not only because they just house beers. You're talking about demolishing beers. Asking for no credit. Just tough dudes, all of them tough. Hand-to-hand combat is their job. I've never seen a single offensive lineman that isn't a great fighter, like ever. I saw a guy roll with Sean, offensive lineman. Where's he from? The Bengals? I forget now. It's because I think Sean was done with a few different players. He was rolling. It's like offensive lineman actually hand-hand.

1:46:43Pat McAfee:That's real. You know, that's every day they're doing. And they're huge dudes, and they get their asses beat all the time. But at the end of the day, those five dudes are going to decide whether or not you can win or you can't win. Because if you can't protect a quarterback, you can't run the ball, you're completely fucked. Now the Kansas City Chiefs, who have an offensive line question, have paid$50 million in their center and their guard combo. Now they've got to figure out everything else to get back to the place that we all assume that Kansas City Chiefs will be whenever Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback and Andy Reid is the head coach.

1:47:13Pat McAfee:And I assume they're going to make another run at this. Remember, they were the AFC champs. Yeah. They were the AFC champs, best team in the AFC. They were the team. Then they just get the doors blown off them in a Super Bowl and everybody's like, Chiefs are dead. It's like, are they? I don't know. Couldn't block the Eagles. Yeah, exactly. Four, one, stubborn. Just putting us against the books. Couldn't block them. Yep. Well, and that still might be a problem, though. Like, they lost Joe Tooney and, you know, Trey Smith and Creed Humphrey were both still on that line last year. And do they even – do they know who their tackles are again?

1:47:44Yeah, I'm sure they know. We'll figure it out.

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1:48:52Pat McAfee:joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who is a american success story that i also believe they should you know make documentaries about he would love that i think that is like kind of the thing he would really sign up for yeah sure let a journalist in his life follow him around document it tell his story you know and they're doing it a very fair way feels like this guy gets judged very fairly by a lot of people you know for everything he's done and how much he's accomplished in a business and a sport that he's taken to heights that we've never seen before. Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the UFC and a man who will be hosting this weekend in New Orleans, Louisiana.

1:49:26Pat McAfee:On Friday, Power Slap 14. On Saturday, UFC 318. Diamond, Dustin, Poirier's last fight ever in his hometown. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. Yeah, Dana! How you doing, brother? What's up, boys? How are you? I heard your voiceover for the Ram truck commercial. sure you got that ram shirt on right there look hey god bless america dana hey god bless america dana that's all i can say how are you doing brother how's life very busy everything's awesome man yeah everything's awesome and what's funny is i never aspire to no there will not be a documentary i will never do anything like that i don't want to act i don't want to do commercials i don't want to do any of that stuff but uh you know i met tim the ceo of dodge and he was walking me through all this stuff and and and they sent me over the the vo for that commercial and then the uh you know um you know all the images and i'm like oh hell yeah i'm doing this commercial yeah i can do it yeah i can do a voice is there a fucking microphone in here i i need to do a little voiceover i got a chance to chit chat with tim as well i believe he's fresh ceo over there i think within like the last year or whatever he has he's a lightning rod this guy yeah yeah he's electrifying i can't wait to see what you got he was in then he retired and then they brought him back uh so yeah no i like him very much we we are like i said i've said this a million times i want to work with people that i'm aligned with and i could not be more aligned with him he's a great guy love him and shout out to the uh hemi yeah 2500 heavy duty that i got sitting right outside this ram truck rides like it's on the clouds but has the power to get you wherever you need any utility to get the job done okay let's talk about you getting the job done massive weekend in New Orleans, brother.

1:51:09Pat McAfee:Okay, we got Power Slap 14. Congrats on the 14th one of these. I remember we talked before the first one. I remember we talked before the first one. I got a chance to be in attendance at one of these. I was sitting right next to Travis Scott in the kapow, dead lady right in front of us. And it was electrifying. Obviously, social media is Power Slap's home, I think, every single week. And then Saturday, Dustin Poirier's last fight. This is a massive weekend for you in the middle of the summer. How excited are you for it down there in New Orleans? and what should we maybe have our mindset be looking ahead to it?

1:51:41Yeah, I haven't been there in a long time, so I'm excited to get back there. Fun city, obviously. Power Slap, for the people that have never seen it live, like you said, it's an incredible, fun live event. It's been killing it for us. And then, obviously, the BMF card on Saturday night, the UFC. Dustin Poirier, his last fight, win, lose, or draw versus Max Holloway. and what's incredible about the Dustin Poirier fight, if you think about the lightweight division, the nastiest division in the sport, everybody in the top 15 are all killers, and these guys are ranked number five and six, and it's for the BMF title, and the whole card is a BMF card.

1:52:23So I'm looking very forward to it.

1:52:26Pat McAfee:I love the baddest motherfucker title. I think that was a genius concept by you. I think that you're a promoter. I think that was a genius promoter. this feels like one where all fight fans are going to get behind it as well right because obviously we got this number here and then we got poyer with his last fight feels like this is one that fight fans are very excited about do you feel that as well well what's funny about the bmf title is that me and my mag baker sit in this room every tuesday and we fight and argue about you know this fighter that fighter what we're going to do and uh when i pitched them the bmf uh idea i thought they were going to shit all over it uh they did not they loved it and uh so we ended up doing it And the fans like it.

1:53:07And more importantly, the fighters all want to fight for this title. So I love it.

1:53:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a sense of pride to be the baddest motherfucker. I mean, that is a great thing to be known of. Can you talk a little bit about Dustin, though, and what he's done for the UFC, obviously, as we look ahead to his last fight in the cage? Absolutely. I mean, what Dustin has accomplished here is incredible. And when you look at, like, his last 11 fights, it's the who's who. And I think seven of them are former world champions. and obviously his fights with Conor the list goes on and on and he's a great guy, this is one of those fights where both of them are beloved by the fans and everybody else it's one of those fights where you don't want to see somebody lose but unfortunately somebody has to these guys are both entertaining fighters, which I think is a massive ordeal for you, right?

1:53:53Pat McAfee:you obviously said you and Fightmakers meet every single Tuesday and their style of fight is a big deal right, as you're trying to build up UFC and still continue to build the best cards every single week, week in, week out? Absolutely. I mean, again, we're going into, we just came out of Nashville this last weekend. That card was incredible. Then we go into this one, which was actually the BMF card. And we expect, you know, I say it all the time. I sell holy shit moments for a living. And I think we're going to have a lot of holy shit moments on Saturday. I want to let you know, I sell holy shit moments for a living and I'm living good.

1:54:28Pat McAfee:That is a real thing. We got 28 seconds till the heart out here on ESPN. We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live, even though they are fickle. Sure. TikTok Live is very, we need you to get to the bottom of TikTok, which we will talk about with Dana here as we continue into the digital space. This weekend, massive for not only Power Slap, but also for UFC down there in New Orleans. We will all enjoy alongside Dana White, who will look spectacular, cage side, down there in the bayou. Goodbye. Okay, now we're on digital. Sorry, I had to do that. That was like a weird, there's a hard out right there, Dana.

1:55:02Pat McAfee:And then we continue. Transition. That's a transition. You killed it. Hell yeah. Boom. I was at the Home Run Derby last night. I fucking connected right there. I watched it. So I went out Saturday night with Kid Rock after the fight, and it was a really bad idea. And I was sick for the last two days. So I didn't work out yesterday morning. So I worked out last night and watched the Home Run Derby while I was working out last night. It was great. It was actually really. Yeah, they bombed balls last night. It was a good show, I think. and Big Dumper, he's the guy leading the league right now. Him having a good performance was big for baseball.

1:55:34Pat McAfee:Let's talk about you going out with Kid Rock afterwards. I went to his restaurant down there in Nashville with Ernest and a couple others. The decorations in this place, the style that Kid Rock has, I don't know if there's ever been a human that decorates like him. And then I heard his house is very similar to what that restaurant is. What an interesting cat. And it's not until you walk through the museum that he has at this restaurant that you are reminded of all the shit that Kid Rock has done. He's in every Hall of Fame. I saw every plaque. This shit's in this restaurant. He's out. What a human Kid Rock is.

1:56:05Pat McAfee:You need to tell him from us that I think he is an anomaly out there. Legitimately. What a weapon Kid Rock is. I feel the same way, man. And so, he came to the UFC on Saturday, so we watched the fights and then we went out after to his place. His honky-tonk. But the night before, he was in Kentucky where he played the 25 ,000-30 ,000 people. You know, he's doing all these unserved markets where they don't get big concerts and he's absolutely killing it and yes he's incredible live and uh yeah he's obviously fun to hang out with his decoration you gotta admit oh and his house his house is a is a replica of the white house and uh it's it's incredible yeah it's incredible he's got a massive studio in there he's got a garage with all his old cars in there and then all of his garage doors are his uh his gold records uh it's pretty cool i'm telling you from walking into his restaurant i've never been to his house walking into his restaurant i'm like holy shit this guy just lives it's a museum i'm in a museum right now collector's pieces all over the place i don't know how many millions of dollars in collected pieces they're fake that's not real don't go rob the place but there's a lot of there's a lot of really good shit i uh can't wait to meet him obviously he's done a lot you're in that world right now obviously uh the power brokers because of how much success you've had and now you're venturing into a whole new avenue and i think it's where you started this boxing world let's talk about all the shit with the boxing world okay because uh obviously we had you in turkey on whenever we were announcing that this was happening it was an honor for us to be a part of that tko teams up with turkey you obviously going to run a boxing promotion you started in the boxing world obviously you know the fight world very well you know the promotion world very well wwe's nick khan also in there now first fight has been announced it's fucking fight of the century and it's going to be in a stadium how do you feel about the boxing promotion do we have a name yet and how much time are you divvying on all these how are you handling it all yeah it's it's it's been uh been busy that's for sure but uh nick con from wwe introduced me to shake turkey um a year or two ago i don't remember how long ago it was but we ended up creating a relationship i like the guy and i like what he's doing for boxing and um i don't know how i ended up in this Canelo Crawford fight, but I did.

1:58:23But this isn't what I'm going to be doing. I'm launching something else in 26 that I'll announce to you. And I'll probably announce it with you anyway. Everybody loves you and wants to announce everything with you. Not everybody loves you. Everybody loves you. Dana, I don't know. There's a lot of people who want me dead. Everybody loves you. All right, that feels good. Thank you. Everybody loves you too, Dana. So, yeah. I mean, it's fun. I wouldn't be sitting where I am today if it wasn't for the sport of boxing. I love what Turkey is doing, creating, you know, making these fights that would never be made, and we'd be talking about 10 years from now wishing that we would have seen it.

1:59:03Those are the fights he's making. And the fact that I can contribute anything to this, I'm honored. I love it.

1:59:12Pat McAfee:Okay, cool. So that fight's coming in September. You're starting something in 26. Can't wait to see what that is. I feel like that's some sort of news, at least at some sort. I don't think I had heard of that. Can't wait to hear what that is and see what it is. You're seemingly successful with everything. And on that note, you talk about Turkey being good for boxing. Obviously, you're good for the fight game. You're also good for sports as a whole. We're having a fight at the White House. So how? Okay, take me into the think tank here. We're having dinner with the president at the White House.

1:59:41Pat McAfee:We overlook a yard. I assume there's a name for the yard. I should know it. i don't know it a garden of something you look out there there's enough space out there we could do an event out here is that how this comes together this sounds like some of the most insane sports stuff in history that backdrop of the white house slash kid rocks looking house you have that right there then bang the octagon right there and then a select crowd of people that seems like a movie not real life how did we get here and where are we in the development of that i agree so the president has this whole thing where he wants to bring Americans back to the White House.

2:00:16He's like, this is America's house. Everybody should be able to come and enjoy it. Easter egg hunts on the lawn and all this stuff. He says, I think we should do a fight here at the White House. And I was like, okay, I'm in. I'm in. So he told Ivanka to handle it and start the talks with me. So my team went out there and did all the recon on it. We're putting together a whole pitch and we're going to fly out there in a couple weeks and walk the president through it and see what he likes and doesn't like and start fine-tuning this thing and we're going to put on an incredible event at the White House in the South Lawn.

2:00:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, sounds like a lot of your fighters are excited to be like, hey, if we're going to do something historic and legendary, we're okay being a part of that. Even somebody that maybe was retired. Go ahead, D-Budge. Yeah, I got to ask you about the GOAT, John Bones Jones. I've seen he retired. He's unretired back in the testing pool. What's the latest on Jones? Is that for the White House fight? For sure. right? Well, it was after we announced the White House that, yeah, he called and said he wanted to, you know, get back in the pool. You know, obviously everybody wants to fight on that card. And that's a good thing because we're going to put on the best card we've ever done for that White House event.

2:01:27Pat McAfee:Okay. So on that note, let's go to Ireland. We saw a lot of a guy, but obviously he is massive in the fight world. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Dana. Then the other question would be McGregor. You know, John Jones and Conor McGregor on the same card would be, historic, the biggest of all time, it feels like. Is that another thing that might be in the works as well? Because I saw a lot of him talking about it, too. Yeah, and a lot of him in general. I saw a lot of him. I saw a lot of him. Keep living, Connors. Keep living. Anything is possible. Listen, it's still a year away. I mean, it's literally a year away from now.

2:02:01So the landscape will change a lot over the next year as far as title holders and stars and people that pop up. But yeah, I mean, we're looking if Jones, if we do a Jones and Conor on the same card, plus a lot of other great fights, anything is possible and everything is possible for that card.

2:02:19Pat McAfee:If we're going to have Conor McGregor and John Jones on the same card, I mean, I guess. I guess we'll do that. That thing will be electrifying. You said it's about a year from now. Do you have a date already picked out? It's the 4th of July. It's the 250th anniversary of America. Holy fuck. Is that the greatest thing of all time? Yeah, it is. Yes, it is, by the way. The flyover. Oh, my. The flyover is about to be... Holy shit, Dana. Imagine, just think about what I'm going to do for this fight. And then think about what Trump is going to do for this fight. You know what I mean? It's going to be one of the...

2:02:54It's a one-of-one experience. Like when we did the sphere. It's the sphere on steroids. I mean, it's going to be a one-of-one event. there'll be nothing like it ever again.

2:03:05Pat McAfee:And then let alone Kid Rock starts getting his mind around us at times. We already talked, believe me, when we were out the other night, we talked a lot about this, believe me. Dana, I got ideas. Well, that's the other thing, where the president just put on the, he just did the parade for the military, that's all right there too. You can put 25 ,000 people in that area, right? It's just, the possibilities for this thing are insane yeah you're gonna take advantage of it all and give us a hell of a show and we're very grateful for it i promise you that i promise you that uh do you feel okay i'm gonna talk about your personal life real quick so we see your friends publicly fight each other that's what i feel like we see at this stage of life and you're like a glue piece to all of it almost and every story is like dana right and then dana there was even conversations that happened why else they get leaked allegedly and then there's obviously public shit that we see do you feel a sense of like hey i i am a rather important piece of america did you feel like that or no you just try not to think about it all the big dogs all the big dogs were all you ufc events there for a while it was just like oh yeah hey uh who's deciding what goes on the entire world well let alone the guy that's on commentary every time his podcast just changes the entire globes everything and then you got the people sitting behind in the corner it's like oh there's the president there's the richest man on earth oh there's the biggest agent in the history of being an agent there's dana way zuckerberg is getting into the state and they're just all there and it's like i think the love of your sport is something that really has rallied a lot of people do you see it that way and how involved in all that shit do you want to be or are you trying not to be?

2:04:52I guess I see it that way when you point it out. Yeah, this is what we're all seeing, Dana.

2:04:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, this is what we're all seeing. And let alone Theo Vaughn is sitting. Yeah, the biggest comedians are right there behind you watching the entire thing. It's like your events are like all the motherfuckers that kind of run everything. And it's like you're the glue behind it. That's a cool thing that MMA is the one, but it's also like a pretty important thing, I think, right now in sports. Well, thank you. Well, thank you. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny because I've been friends with all these guys for a long time. Obviously, me and Rogan go back, you know, 25, 26 years. The president and I go back that long.

2:05:31And yes, the love of this sport and the things that we've done over the last 25 years have brought us to where we are today. It's just, I don't know, it's just, as surreal as it is, it's just, it's what it is. It's what we've done over the last 25 years.

2:05:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's just another day. I'm an American badass. Let me walk out here with a fucking president. I'm walking into an arena with a president of the United States and Kid Rock flanking me. I mean, it's an unbelievable thing. Congrats on the business. Can't wait to hear your next voiceover with Dodge Ram Trucks. can't wait to watch power slap 14 UFC this weekend in New Orleans BMF card and Crawford and Canelo in September and in something I'm doing in 2026 keep grinding man we appreciate the journey thanks brother I appreciate you guys and yes I will be breaking it with you when we're ready to do it nice that's breaking news it's breaking news that we're breaking news we appreciate the hell out of you you're the man ladies and gentlemen Dana Wayne I guess when you point it out Yeah, I guess There for like a two month period Every person that was making every decision That mattered to the entire fucking world I felt like Boom I wasn't the only person I wasn't the only person that was seeing it Dana is kind of the blue piece, isn't he?

2:06:56Pat McAfee:Yes, they're all walking in with him How you doing? Keep moving President, please The richest guy on earth Just got here. Go grab him. Mr. Ely. Yeah, you sit here. Ely's got a friend. Okay. Yep. You can sit here. Ari Emanuel's coming here. Okay. Yeah, fucking right here. Mark Zuckerberg wants to watch the fight. Who? Mark Zuckerberg. He invented Facebook. Oh, yeah. Didn't he fucking hate it? No, no. He does. He switched. Okay. He's jacked now. Come on, bro. Oh, his wife. Yep. Got you. Yep. Theo, right there. That is awesome. Yeah. Theo's love of sport. Yeah. The photos. Only guy there. First get to preluse.

2:07:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's so funny. I'll get trapped. Not trapped, because that's a negative connotation. But boy, I'll get in a Theo Vaughn wormhole, and all of a sudden, 35, 40 minutes will pass. And it's 1230 a.m. I'm like, fuck, I need to sleep right now. I should have been sleeping this entire time. But he just told me about 15 people from his hometown, and also his thoughts on certain things. It's like, how the fuck does this guy's brain operate like this? Just like this, too. So quick. Yeah. And he's had some gigantic political figures on his podcast. The fact that Theo is talking to him is so awesome.

2:08:05He seems so awesome.

2:08:06Pat McAfee:So, Jain will get you howling at the moon, brother, or at the telephone lights or something. I forget what it is. That UFC world is its own world in and of itself. We didn't even ask him about the blackjack thing he does with Taylor Law. Oh, yeah. Steve and all them. I mean, that's insane. I think I watched Taylor win hundreds of thousands of bucks. Yeah, a bunch of money. They got a good thing going over there at UFC. Do they win every time? Feels like it. Dana does. What Dana talks about, he's like, hey, I live here. If I'm up, I'll see you. I get out of here. I don't sit around and give it back to you.

2:08:35Pat McAfee:I just won four hands. Oh, that's cool. I'm four and I. See you guys tomorrow. Four million bucks. Yeah. That's a lot of money there, Ben. A lot. I don't know. There's a lot of people in there, too. A lot of cameras. Have you seen those things? Yeah. I don't know if it was always supposed to be. I don't want to be that guy. We were invited to go play blackjack with Dana White five, six years ago. I forget what it was. At the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Well, multiple times. But like the first time we were invited to go do it, I was like, that sounds awesome. And then I asked him exactly what it is.

2:09:03Pat McAfee:He basically said what it was. It was like, oh, we need to do that. Something happened. We weren't able to get out there. So then Super Bowl, we were supposed to go. Something happened. We weren't able to do it. So then we start watching these videos, these things. It's like, holy shit. These are, I'm happy I didn't go, actually. Pretty stressful. Feels like these are very stressful, but it's great content. I'm loving watching these people do it. I don't know if I'm supposed to be the one in there, though. I mean, it'd be wild to be in there, and all of a sudden you blink and you're down 50K, 100K.

2:09:28Pat McAfee:100K, yeah, right. It's like 200K. He said you need to be. I'm saying like two minutes in. Yeah, well, because you need to be willing to lose 100K on your first hand because then you have to go bigger on your next. Like, that's his game. So, yeah, if you're not getting cards, you can be down 500K pretty quick. He doesn't blink. I know. And then whenever he wins. Thank you. I will see you later. That was fun, wasn't it? You guys had me there for about four hands. I'm out of here. I've seen a double or nothing Gatorade bottle shot into a trash can up to$45 ,000. That's awesome. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

2:10:00Pat McAfee:That was really exciting. I mean, they're bringing Uno to Las Vegas now. You saw that, right? I saw that. Legal table games for Uno. I will say. I saw it. It was actually a gimmick. Oh. You got Bono Garage. You saw three different reports. I know. It was actually me and Zeet saw it this morning. I don't know the exact details, but it's not what we thought it was. That felt like it was going to be much tougher to get done. Colorblind people can't play Uno, and I think that's fucked up. That is a good point. All right. We got to get out of here. We got to hit the road. The summer road trip continues.

2:10:38Pat McAfee:We are now off to Los Angeles. Big city. The city of angels. City of lights. Shane Gillis hosting the ESPYs tomorrow night. Cannot wait to watch our All-Star Games this evening. Yep. We'll watch that. It should be a great time. Let's continue to enjoy this. What's happening on Thursday? We still don't know. Legitimately still don't know. Nope. Could be on. Could be in a state. Could not be. Try to figure it all out. Let's just get to L.A. first. Yeah, let's just do that. One foot in front of the other, H. That's how it works. Have you seen you join the summer program's road trip? I saw that. It's just like it.

2:11:13Pat McAfee:Hey, I'll take it. Is that you? I guess so. Hey, you already letting Z drive? Yeah. Yeah, if you can put it back here. Looks like A.J. Hawk All-Star. That's a great comment. I love that guy. Let's talk about this real quick. A.J., I think you look good. Good job. Yeah, thanks. D. Butt, super happy. I mean, elated. Jacked up. Love how happy. Ready for the ESP's, too. How do we feel? Yeah, I don't know who the fuck that guy is. You don't know who? No, that's you. Sure as hell isn't me. Yeah, Yankees. Ty, this is easily Ty Schmidt. You paint your nails white, don't you? Yeah, I did say that to D-Bone.

2:11:50Thanks for putting fingernail paint on there and making it look like I haven't clipped my fingernails in six months.

2:11:57Pat McAfee:Might need a little cocaine in there. Connor, how do we feel? Pretty good. Tone from Hammered Downtown, look how happy you are. I feel great about it. Tone looks like Jordan Davis. Love that. You buying dirt over there? I would love to buy some dirt. I do believe we have a sidebar. See, spot on. Yeah, spot on is right. Look at the fucking schnoz at that guy on the left. Are you kidding me? We'll look to your left. Thanks for giving me the fucking bags under my eyes. I don't know that I'm tired already. I appreciate that. D-Bone, yeah. Nailed the hat. Yeah, he did. I'll give him that. Does D-Bone build them?

2:12:38How exactly does it work? It goes off in a real picture. D-Bone. D-Bone. D-Bone.

2:12:44Pat McAfee:D-Bone teamed up with like 16 different fucking AIs. I believe to piece that whole thing together and then it crashed his fucking computer 10 minutes before the show started so it was completely worthless. But great graphic. Great graphic. Guy's got a brand new fucking laptop. This thing crashed it out, but it got a great graphic. It did. It did. I can't complain. Well, you are. I just did, but I can't. But I will. I thought about it. Yeah, but I can't. So, it's a good graphic. It is a great graphic. Shout out to T-Mobile, shout out to Red Bull, Shout out to that guy. Alright, AJ. Before we get out of here, I think we've got to do a giveaway, don't you think?

2:13:24Oh, are you going to show the people your new putter again?

2:13:28Pat McAfee:I didn't even think about that. Grab the black one right there. I was going to have you do something. You can go to a local golf course and see any 90-year-old man using a similar club. This is old buddies. JJ Spawn. He didn't use the tall one, though. He used this club. Yeah, that club head, you're right. It's not about this. It's about the head, not the shaft, I know. What's that? Yeah, go. I think the shaft does matter what you were talking about. Well. You're talking about penises. Yeah, Conor McGregor would say that. Mm-hmm. I saw a lot of head heads. Yeah, it's not illegal, is it? What happened?

2:14:05I guess he can curl dumbbells with his dong like there's no tomorrow. Which is awesome. It's like Cirque du Soleil stuff. Just real quick, though. America's got talent. There was no reason. okay there was no reason for you guys to start yelling into my phone when i got into that car

2:14:26Pat McAfee:conor mcgregor's dick conor mcgregor's dick conor mcgregor's dick to try to talk to my algorithm well i had not seen it it had not come into my life at all i had no idea that it was a thing and then as soon as i get back with you guys you all are trying to yell at my algorithm to have that thing pop up. And I'll have you know, guess what? Mission accomplished. I'm not happy. It's sports, Pat. It's something you need to see. Yeah, he's one of the greatest. I don't need to see that. It is sports. It's an athlete working out, just trying to make his biggest muscle bigger. I mean, he's one of, if not the greatest, Irish athlete of all time.

2:15:05Sorry, yeah, you got to look at his dick. And we didn't want to. I haven't seen it. I saw D-Bone drawing, making a graphic of it, I thought, just like the road trips situation. That's potential of corners. D-Bone, if you're not, you should get on that. No, he was. He was putting little arms on it and having the guy bench. Yeah. Yeah. Look, sweet. I look forward to that. I hope everybody's okay. We got open stance. Is that how they teach you? Yeah, good putting school they do. Innovation. Perfect speed. I'll tell you what, it holds its line pretty good. Perfect speed.

2:15:43There we go. Bang. Back door. Bang. Yep. Good backspin on that. Do I have a putter?

2:15:55What the hell is this? Is this a commercial for the tall lab putter? I don't care what it is. I'm just telling you, if I can putt, I'm going to be an okay golfer. If it goes in, you're right. It doesn't matter. Could you imagine doing this? Oh, my gosh. You should. Can you imagine you carrying a golf bag when that thing's sticking up 12 feet above the rest of your clubs? If you can make every putt, then I understand. Not every putt. If I could just two putt. Oh, yeah.

2:16:23Oh, bang. Pretty pure. I mean, oh. Pretty pure. Is that put together like a pull cue? You can, like, unscrew it? It is a fair question. I sure hope so. That would be sweet. I don't think so. Is this how I'm supposed to putt with this? Yeah. I think you just feel it. You just got to feel it. How does it feel in the water? There you go. That's it right there. Swing or swing? I don't think that's the one. The other ones feel pretty good. That's a bucket. That's good. Yep, that's not the one. Get the black one. Yeah. Yeah, the arm lock. Yeah, there we go. Do the Bryson, which almost, I don't know about you, D, but it felt impossible to even try.

2:17:00Yeah, impossible. I didn't feel like it had to. Keep my forearm on there. I don't think I have enough of that exterior. Is that what it is where we're not flexible enough? Maybe. I just felt like a goofball. I like to feel like an athlete before I do.

2:17:16Here we go. What do you think about doing the open stance with that one? Don't need it. You're not exactly anchored down on your floor. Bang. Boom. Bang. That's the one. That's the one. Tell Bryson.

2:17:32What do you mean? Simple. You're supposed to make putts. That's all you're doing. Bang! That's in. It hit the ball. That was already in. Yeah, Kuchar does that too. Hit the ball. So you're good. Kuchar? Yeah, Matt Kuchar. Oh, Ashton? Maybe.

2:17:52That one hit like a pebble. I saw it jump.

2:17:57Here we go. It's a line. Tracking. Yeah, I mean, you're rolling it pretty good. There it is. Yeah, you got it.

2:18:06Pat McAfee:available? AJ, you are not allowed to take this one. It's the amount of shit you talked on it. The tall boy? Oh, no, no. I think I'm a golfer. I golfed a little bit during the break. Nice.

2:18:23Don't look now. I believe it. You already are good. If this thing things, this thing, don't you fucking make it.

2:18:33Pat McAfee:I just found my goddamn putter. Don't let it take your athleticism away, though. That's all I'm asking. That's why I'm fucking hockey shooting at me. Okay, good. Then it's fine. Don't want this big old grip. Don't make it. They want to take the athlete out of you. No, keep it. You're a field player. No, I've been a guy that never makes a putt guy. I need to change whatever the hell. That's why you got that. Yeah, there you go. See, just like that. Happy Gilmore. Perfect. Whenever that comes out. Could you fathom if I just started rolling these fucking things in like this? Absolutely. I think I can.

2:19:01Pat McAfee:Hockey. Ball hockey. I mean, that fucking. That feels like. Why have I not been doing this all the time? Cornhole. Why am I not been doing this? Is that legal? It's legal. That's a good question. But if it is, I mean, Bryson uses it. Yeah, it's got to be. That's legal. We like to shout out him for about four or five minutes of entertainment last night. Yeah. We went through the heat. Yep, needed it. Yeah, we did. We certainly did. Let's get the fuck out of here. It was a late night last night. Yeah. I can imagine. I mean, that thing was. Tonight. Tonight's going to be a long one. Oh, fuck. Tonight is a long one.

2:19:41Long drive.

2:19:43Pat McAfee:AJ, you're not going to be able to be on the bus with Ty's nose. Yeah. Ty, can we come join us? Can we get out of here? Absolutely. Shout out to the Atkinson family. We're acting up. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. Never outworked. Never. That's the most important part. Boom. Now, never outworked. How does kiddo? 17-year-old. He's probably 17. So squared away. Mature. Hey, the Opens this weekend. Who's going to win? I kind of like Rombo. Oh, fuck that! I didn't expect it. Is anybody putting like me out there? No. I don't think so. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. My change of life.

2:20:24Pat McAfee:We're going to send together. Thank you guys for everything. Oh, we should talk about it. The lady was wearing a mask. We couldn't hear what she was saying. Legitimately could not hear. Couldn't hear what any of the questions were. Couldn't hear. First two questions, couldn't hear them. Could make it out a little bit. We're reading math while they're talking. Big part of it. So mask, third question, couldn't read any lips. Couldn't hear. In the video, I did hear that it was perfectly clear. It was not like that where we were on the stage. Inside. I think with where the speakers were, it was maybe front of stage shooting out that way.

2:20:59Pat McAfee:And there was also noise in back of theater. so we could not we actually could not hear what you could hear like every fifth and they did see her reading question pretty promptly so like legitimately did not hear what she said until the second time i was trying my best to kind of understand it but it was like i don't know if we're the right people for that question but also uh i appreciate passion and on that same note i think atlanta was awesome for the all-star game it was just like it was for the national championship just like it was for the SEC championship. Atlanta is a great, great host city.

2:21:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, for the Super Bowl. That is a great host city. Lucky me that hot as shit. Certainly. The battery, though, that entire deal that the Braves own is incredible. Celebration, too. Yeah. All right, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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