PMS 2.0 1377 - Jelly Roll, Kirk Herbstreit, Pete Thamel, Dylan Langholf, Shams Charania, Jerry Jeudy

16:26Pat McAfee:What's that, lift?

16:27Darius Butler:Did you McGregor it?

16:28Pat McAfee:No. I don't know how many people were doing that, to be honest. I didn't know that was a thing. Fascinating. I mean, just very, all of it is wild. That's a, he's going to be fighting in the White House. That's right. He's going to be fighting in the White House. He is. I think he's running for president. Yes, he is. For violent. I think I see a couple tweets every other day out of that. Could see that. Pop up in a week, vote McGregor. Big smile. The next day he's on a yacht. The next day he's training his kids in Monaco. Yeah. And like fans, I think, are just like standing around. And he's like, hey, listen, kids, if we're going to travel the world, we at least got our work.

17:02Pat McAfee:Him trying to get actual workouts in in these very public places is awesome. His ability to be able to do it. I get distracted. I would get way too distracted. Maybe run one hill. I'm exhausted. What's over there? Anything other than working out. So his ability to seemingly be able to mix just living a full life of luxury all the time while still trying to maintain his ability to stay in shape, his entire body, he's very fascinating. Absolutely. He's a fascinating individual. I mean, there are not a whole lot of people out there who are, you know, putting kettlebells around their dongs and, you know, making sure that their summer sausage is getting work in as well.

17:39Pat McAfee:Now, on that note, that is not the dong off. I mean, I assume in the world that we're in that's going to happen at some point. Yeah. Everybody needs to be ready for that.

17:46Darius Butler:Hopefully at the Stereoide Olympics.

17:47Pat McAfee:That's probably five, ten years out from that. And we're not saying we like it. We're just telling you about the reality of the world that we live in. What we always thought, me, as somebody outside baseball, what do I like about baseball? I like to see pitchers throw over 100 miles an hour. Shout the young buck. Yeah, Mizorowski. He threw what, four of the fastest? Yeah, the four hardest pitches in the game. When he threw, they said they brought him in literally for this. Like, hey, we got a young guy who's 23 years old and throws the ball hard on everybody. Yeah, and he was throwing, you know, 102, 102.4-ish, 101.

18:16Just basically came in and just unloaded the tank. Which is exactly what they were expecting and hoping for. And what he said he was going to do. Yeah, he told us, yeah, I'm just going to throw heat. I guess he holds on to it very long. He does that. I like seeing 100-plus, and then I like seeing balls leave.

18:31Pat McAfee:So, in the offseason, whenever baseball is going through, it's what, you know, money thing. They're always seemingly going through a money thing. That's how we learn about the local meteorite steals being so important. It's like they need to just take dong show on the road in the summer. You can go do minor league parks. You can literally go do minor league parks. You have a couple of the big-name guys, and if they're going to have one day where they're working anyways, like instead of taking a workout, just go to a fucking stadium, have your BP coach there, and, like, just do a dong off. Dong offs get the people going.

19:02Darius Butler:Yeah, they do. Every time. And they had one last night, and that is – I love seeing that. Yeah.

19:06Pat McAfee:And I like the Manfred and the team over there. they're willing to kind of roll the dice on whatever. I see my dude, Bob. Okay, so that means one thing and one thing alone. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, guest host of the Jimmy Kimmel Show, I believe the next two days, a man who's going to be stepping into the ring at SummerSlam here in a few weeks to beat the hell out of Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre alongside the legend, Randy Orton. Ladies and gentlemen, Jelly Roll. Yeah, Jelly. How are you, baby? I've been listening to y 'all talk about a dong off for 15 minutes. I didn't know you were here.

19:47I don't know if y 'all kept anybody listening to this program. There was so much dong talk. And then when Connor got in, I was like, man, this is getting crazy. Not that Connor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The old Irishman with the pub stout.

19:59Pat McAfee:Have you seen it? I mean, it's all over the internet. Of course you've seen it. I couldn't miss that one, Dave. Yeah. How did everybody's algorithm just be like, got to see it? Yeah. anyways let's move along he's from Ireland you're going to be heading over you're going to be heading over to Europe here in August this big ass stadium tour that you were doing with Post Malone yes sir I got a chance obviously to see the one at PNC Park in Pittsburgh what a show and I guess you guys sign on for another year I think it's a brilliant move you two are perfect together it feels like do you feel the same way dude I love it I love Post he's just so awesome to work with the tour was so fun y 'all got to see it y 'all got yeah yeah we had a good time I was like, it's just dude.

20:36And he's taking me international for the first time. And when they called and he was like, we should just do this again next summer. I was like, yes, we should do this again next summer for sure.

20:45Pat McAfee:I think I heard you on the stage. And I assume you've said to him multiple times because you are a guy who likes to showcase your gratitude, which is one of the reasons why everybody, I think, loves you so much. On the stage, you're like, Posty, I would do this for the rest of my life if you asked me to do this. This is awesome. And you know because we're friends in real life, that's exactly what I told y 'all off stage. You were like, yo, what's up? I was like, dog, this has been the easiest tour. Like we run a light crew. We do a little short of a show, which for the amount of songs I have, work favors me a little bit.

21:17You know, it makes it more of an hour heavy. It's a dong-off. It's a dong-off. I'm just Conor McGregor helicoptering out there. You know what I mean? But it is.

21:25Pat McAfee:It is like a home run derby basically. And I think your fans and his fans are a great mesh. Like, the vibes were immaculate. So, congratulations on that. Thank you, man. You're hosting Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. I'm hosting tonight, dude. Tonight and tomorrow night, y 'all, it's the fun. This must have been the white trash week because it was me and Chris DiStefano were the guest hosts. I don't think it could have got any trash here. Just an old East Coast trash bucket and an old down south just trailer trash. I saw – we're big fans of trash around here. You know that. I saw Chrissy and I believe Shane chugged a beer, had a beer or two last night on the show.

21:57Pat McAfee:Excited. Are you ready for tonight? I'm excited. Have you hosted? I'm nervous, man. Have you hosted? I've never hosted anything. So it's like. Yeah, but when you get that award, anytime you get a microphone, you're great. Yeah, yeah. You host. Yeah. During your show, we watched you at the Big Ass Stadium Tour. Yes, sir. There's plenty of times you host and kind of navigate and guide. Have you done rehearsals? Do you know what you're saying? No, no. I go to rehearsals right after this. So it's like, it's so cool. I don't know anything about what I'm walking into. And like in an hour and a half, I'll be texting you like, dude, guess what this is.

22:25Are you singing or no? No, I'm not singing. And Joey Badass is my musical guest tonight, which I think is really cool. And tomorrow night I have the All-American Rejects. Have y 'all been seeing what they're doing, Dan? They're playing people's front yard. I wanted to talk to them about it. I was like, please get the All-American Rejects.

22:41Pat McAfee:Did you see what he did with the Savannah Bananas? That was awesome. Sick. Lit. I mean, it was amazing. The Savannah Bananas are just lit, period, by the way. Big fan. Goodness gracious, dude. They got it figured out. Hey, don't you think everybody that's in the entertainment content business just has respect for the Savannah Bananas because selling out stadiums is like, that's very difficult. The power your fan base has to have to be able to sell out a stadium. I don't think people understand the levels of everything. So if you're able to captivate that group of people, which is why you and Posty's thing is so awesome to watch, it's like you've got to be doing something right.

23:17Pat McAfee:So even if you're not a fan of the product, you've got to be a fan of the business. I think there's so many things that they've done right, and I think everybody's watching them and I assume that is similar in the music world. This is the way I put it to people. It is so hard to sell arenas. Now imagine that you would have to sell that arena four nights in a row to justify going to the stadium. And you know this because you sold an arena. I've sold a couple arenas. God's blessed us to be in that position and that's not an easy position to be in. So I look at guys like Morgan Wallen and Post Malone like, dude, Taylor four nights, five nights in Indianapolis, dude.

23:51She's the goat. I will fist fight anybody who says otherwise. Travis, don't even worry. I got this one. You know what I mean? Literally. Like, she's the goat. You know, it's like, you just, that is so hard to get people connected in such a way. Because when I think about selling tickets, Pat, I think about it as souls, not tickets. Like, we've all watched our wife pick out her outfit, try two or three on. We've all spent two or three hours sitting in the living room. Like, this is a big night. Like, where are we going to eat? Where are we going to park? Like, it's so much more into coming out.

24:21than just to see me. You know what I mean? So, like, I think of that every single night and just, like, how precious that is when me and my wife get those moments and I just think about 17 or 60 ,000 people out there that were doing the same. We're going to get there early, but we don't want to get too early. We don't want to gas, but we want to get a little pre-drinking in. You know what I mean? How hot's it going to be? Who's the opener? Where are we parking? All of it. All the fun stuff.

24:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, I agree. Jerry Seinfeld had a bit about, like, this is it. Yeah. This is welcome. You had to wait in line to buy the ticket. You had to get through the whole thing. You basically went through it. That's why I called that big night out in Pittsburgh because it's like, this is it. This is it. There's so – let alone the babysitter potentially. The babysitter? You might have had to call an in-law you hate. You know, some people have had to call in-laws they flat don't like. And also, I think, like, I'm such a blue-collar guy that I would assume that the people that connect with me were like I was when I was going to concerts.

25:15Like, I didn't go to concerts every week. No way. He saved up for that one big one for the summer that we wanted to go to. It was our one. Or we would sneak in the amphitheater through the gate or something.

25:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, not bad to sneak under a fence every once in a while. And if somebody makes a hole before you, you didn't really do anything wrong except for season opportunity. You need to arrest whoever cut the hole. Did you ever sneak into Star Lake? So Star Lake's very far from our house. Right. Like very, very far from our house. I think I probably in trunk. Yeah. I think I trunked one. Yep. That'll do it. Yeah, I think I one time with, yeah, I think my mom.

25:46Darius Butler:It is far, but like that's like to your point, like we would go like once a summer because it's. So far. It's like an hour from our house. Because that's on the southwest side of Pittsburgh. We're on the east side of Pittsburgh. So, yeah, that's like, hey, do your whole thing. Yeah, that's what it is. And it's like every other amphitheater in America. I love Star Lake, but they did not think of the traffic at all. No, they did not. They did not think of what's going to happen when 25 ,000 people show up to this thing every couple weeks. It's crazy.

26:10Pat McAfee:Do you ever think about that? Like, we'll just put maybe the songs that people don't want to hear at the end so everybody knows when it's time to get out of here and beat the traffic? Yeah, yeah. Well, we just, like, we just expect it. Like, we know that whenever we start certain songs, like I put Need of Favor towards the back of the set with Save Me, of course. Great song. This is so inside baseball because sometimes, you know, Need of Favor will play and you'll watch, you know, 60 ,000 people there. You'll watch a couple thousand people get up and kind of be like, well, that's it. No. Beat this traffic, I swear, dude.

26:40And you're like, I got three more songs. I can see you. It's like, you're walking out. I'm singing the most emotional. I'm singing Save Me. People are crying.

26:47Darius Butler:and there are people like, let's go, this is our chance. The set list is on the internet too now. It's on Apple. Apple promotes it. They're like, this is the set list. Here's a good time if you need it.

26:57Pat McAfee:Here's a piss. You need to take a piss. Here's a drink. You need one if you're in your room. And I only talk to God when I need a favor. Yep, that was bad. Remember, babe, we sang. Let's go. Time to go. Hey, let's talk about you. You have something massive this summer. And we are so incredibly proud of you. Obviously, we've witnessed this fitness journey and health journey that you've been on. And I'll tell you what, that jawline bubble, it looks spectacular. From where you were, you were posting photos from like a couple years ago on your IG story, I think from like award shows and presentations and things that you've done in the past.

27:32Pat McAfee:From what you look like then to what you look like now and all the hard work you've been putting in, nothing short of admirable. One of the dreams you had to get back healthy was to be in the WWE. That was my North Star. It really was. It was. As y 'all know, I was telling y 'all about it the whole time. Think about that. Think about that. Like, obviously, you know, you got to a moment in your life where you're like, I need to save my life and get in better shape. But also then you're like, I also want to get back in shape. I want to get in shape to accomplish a dream where you have to be in shape, which is WWE.

28:01Pat McAfee:So then whenever I turn on SmackDown and all of a sudden you're singing in your hometown, brother, and then Logan Paul comes out and thinks that he can just enter off. And then all of a sudden you say, excuse me, you're going to attack Randy Orton. And then all of a sudden now we got you and Randy Orton taking on Logan. Good strength there. Logan Paul underestimated you. He thought this was the – He thought I was soft. He thought this was two years ago, Jelly Roll. Right. He thought this was a year ago, Jelly Roll. This is not so – He thought this was the Michelin Man Jelly Roll. This is not the Michelin Man Jelly Roll.

28:30This is regular fat Jelly Roll. SummerSlam, Jelly Roll, Randy Orton, Drew McIntyre, Logan Paul. Congratulations. And are you – like how do we get prepared for this? Dude, so here's the shoot on it. I've been – you are a big inspiration, man. like watching you get involved so much and even going and doing the Gunther match was just like was like another god wink for me a little bit that I was like I should do and you like what I want people to know is who you are on the show is who you is off the show like you are that guy like that will hit your friend up at three and four o 'clock in the morning like proud of you Bubba you're kicking ass keep doing it like just to send like the love and that stuff kept me going when I was probably 13 years old do you remember the disciples of apocalypse that were the bikers.

29:12Chains had a wrestling academy in Laverne by the co-op. My dream, I didn't think I was a musician because I didn't come from any musicians, but we would go to like the Smoky Mountain Wrestling or like the fairgrounds every Saturday. It was like two things my family did. It's how white trash we were. Love it. We would either go to wrestling on Saturdays or we would go watch Night Court. Did y 'all ever heard of Night Court? Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, we'd go. Eight, my mom would put me in a car, chain, smoke cigarettes the whole way there with the windows up. Love that. And then we'd get there, and we would just watch drunk people plead their case for a judge at night because you could do it.

29:45It was like our entertainment. So I would always go in that ring and bump around. It was just something. I just loved the storytelling. Lifelong fan, weekly watcher my whole life pretty much. And I just love it. And when me and Hunter started talking, the more I got involved with the WWE over the last couple of years, I'd go, hey, man. Every time I'd lose a little more, he's like, you're looking good. I was like, do I look good enough for a match yet, or do I need to lose another Hunter? He'd be like, a little more, a little more, Bubba. So I just kept pushing for it, man. And I have been training.

30:13I'm announcing this on your show. I have quietly been living in Orlando for about four, three, four weeks at the PC. I'm showing up every day like a piece of furniture over there. They can't kick me out of there, dude. I'm there from the moment they wake up until it closes almost. Well, that's exactly what the performance center is for.

30:29Pat McAfee:And it's like we've been down there. I was down there I think the first day it opened and kind of watched it grow. And obviously I was part of NXT down there. Lucky to be a part of all that. Hunter's operation. Now it's Sean's operation. And the way they run that, Matt Bloom down there. Oh, Matt Bloom's my coach. I love you, Coach Bloom. Coach Bloom and Coach Moss are my guys. They're spending every day with me, man. Matt Bloom, football guy. Absolute dog. And it's like the fact that you're fully committed, I think everybody behind the scenes is probably having massive respect. But also, it'll be very evident at SummerSlam.

30:56Pat McAfee:We can't wait to watch you, dude. Dude, it's been so like I was training with Matt Bloom the other day. And I'm not name dropping, but this is so cool. And Undertaker comes in with Michelle, his wife. and they come in and they go, hey, we just want to watch for a minute, just kind of chill. Is that cool? I was like, yeah, for sure. This is who he is as a human. The entire three-hour session, him and his wife stood on those ropes and just gave me pointer after pointer. And the most like Kevin Owen, Jacob Fatu came in and wrestled with me the other day for like three, four hours. What? That's awesome.

31:26These dudes are like pouring into me because they see that I'm trying to take it as serious as I can. Yes. That my heart is just to bring like you. Like, I just, like, when you started working with the WWE, you were like, yo, this is cool. And I want people to know how cool it is. Like, if you're out right now and you're not watching the WWE, like, right now is the time to tune back. There's a lot of really good stuff. It's really cool. So, it's like, that was my heart. And when Randy jumped on the idea, dog. Like, when the Viper wanted to be my guy, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, this is awesome.

31:57So, Drew and Logan are just, I can't thank them all enough.

32:00Pat McAfee:Randy Orton, Mount Rushmore guy. Mount Rushmore. Absolute dog. He's been so nice to us as well. And Monster. Yeah, huge. He's a guy that should not have a shirt on ever. He's like 320 pounds, too. Just absolute aux out there. Just jacked. Can't wait to watch you work. And the respect that you've shown the business throughout, I mean, you would come to shows all the time. And it's like I think you are jumping at the opportunity because you're excited for it. But I, as a fan, I can't wait to watch you, man. Thank you, bro. And it's going to be awesome to watch. Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel Live. Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel Live.

32:29Y 'all, listen, if I ever needed y 'all to show up for me, it's tonight. Let them help prove that they didn't make the worst decision of ABC's career by booking me. Is it at the same time as the ESPYs? It is. I want to miss. No, no, no, no. This is even better. Actually, you can go straight from the ESPYs into Jimmy Kimmel. Like, legitimately, I am perfect. I think the ESPYs are on ABC, too, right? So it should just roll right into me. But just stay. Just keep watching. Fall asleep with your TV on. I just need the ratings. Hey, overnight ratings are a big deal for me. They're real. Y 'all know what I'm talking about.

33:01I'm pleading. At least I'm stating my intentions on the front end.

33:04Pat McAfee:We know you have to go soon to the rehearsal. Deebot has a couple questions. Yeah, I got to ask you. I'm going to go back to the WWE stuff. And you perform. We got so much respect for anybody that goes up and does their shit in front of live crowds. You obviously do that in the music realm. But how much different is it going out into a big WWE event? And obviously you have no idea what's going to happen when you go out in that ring. How is it, I guess, pregame going into it? It's electrical. I've never felt nothing like it in my life. pregame though believe it or not is the same man I have a tradition I sing oh happy day on the way to the stage I pray right before every show I've ever done I've kept that over there and the cool thing was the first night when we prayed it was like four or five dudes and gorilla that huddled up and by the second night my Saturday night main event it's like 30.

33:47It's like the whole back of houses back there they're like oh and I was like y 'all get ready this is what we do. That's dope. So it was cool it was also cool because um it is the theater of the unknown in there, you know, and there's just so much happening. I will be honest, though, D-Budd, I'll answer this on the front end with people. Man, I didn't underestimate. I knew how physically grueling it was, and I knew that's what I needed at this point in my weight loss journey, that this would be the fire I needed. But, man, dude, if I took my shirt off right now, not only would you be appalled by the loose skin, but you would see.

34:18I mean, I am beaten, dude. Like, I have so much respect. Them ropes, dude, my back is so bruised. It's a cable. It's a steel cable. Yeah. It's a steel cable. You have to be wildly tough to be in there. Anybody that's ever been in a tournament. It's the toughest sport. It's tough like every other sport I played in middle and high school. It's that kind of a – if not tougher.

34:39Pat McAfee:I can't – yeah, I don't know how they do it. I mean, you had bruises for four weeks after the Gunther fight. Yeah, let alone broke my toe and I think my – T1, T2. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you were training – And I've done four or five matches. Yeah, no, it's – So. It's crazy. There's about 2 ,000 matches on some of these. The bump card that some of these dudes have. And you talk about Undertaker. Oh, my neck right here is just pulsating painful from all them bumps, just from just getting beat up. Hey. And I didn't have the proper neck muscles. Like, I'm having to build those in this process. Like, my shit's, excuse me, on my TV.

35:19But my stuff is. Yeah, I'm on Pat McAfee's fucking show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like my stuff is just banging around. It's like my first week of bumping, I had to wear a helmet because I couldn't keep my neck straight. I never went through nothing to have to do this. Was it a hockey helmet? No, no, you know, like the spongy kind of helmet, like the boxing kind of helmet. I'm not embarrassed of it, neither. No, you should not be. I'm so honest to say these dudes are – I'm so out of my league even trying this, which is what makes it so fun. And every day I think about, like, I've just bit off more than I can chew, but Randy and my partners in this are like all really constantly pouring love into me.

35:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, the greatest supporters of all time are the people you're in there with. I don't want to give away the game too much. No, but it is. You know what I'm saying. Like shout out Adam Cole, brother. We're pulling for you, man. There's a lot of people that can make you look really good in there. No, dude. I say it about this all the time. I wouldn't have this position at SummerSlam this year if Austin Theory didn't make me look like a rock star last year. So there's another one. Austin, we love you, brother. What you do for this business does not go unnoticed. And what you do for us. Yeah. Very, very much so.

36:26Pat McAfee:And last thing before you have to go. You brought up Undertaker hanging out there for three hours. You and I have one of the greatest Undertaker interactions of all time. Ever? I don't know. Are we going to tell it? I think we should. I feel like it's probably one that should be told. Just because Undertaker is the man. And everybody feels that way. It's a moment I'll think of the rest of my life. Because I got to watch it happen. So we're standing backstage. and me and Pat are getting our heads straight and helping our inflammation. Sure. We both had inflammation that day. Our altitude. We were working.

36:59We were just making sure that he was ready to do the show and I was too. And we're sitting back there with The Undertaker. He walks in and like, dog, if y 'all have ever watched The Undertaker walk in a room, it might as well go dong. Like the room stops. It's the craziest thing. And he walks in and I pass the stick to Pat. And Pat looks at Undertaker and looks at me, and all I see is Pat go, Taker? And, dude, but it was like a movie because it was like I'm standing here and they're in front of me, so it looks like a UFC postal pic. They're like nose to nose, and Pat is like trying not to cheese out of his face, but he's like, Taker?

37:37And Mark goes, nah, not tonight. And I was like, we both had a moment where we were like, dog, if he would have took that. I'm going to smoke with the Undertaker. We would have fainted. Like we were so good. He walked out of the room. We were like two little girls.

37:49Darius Butler:Ah, I almost smoked with us. You know why he didn't take it?

37:54Pat McAfee:Oh, because the hook of horns. Yeah, horns. Yeah, under the hook. Yeah, he's so pissed off. Dude, I can see. You've given too many horns down. I should be back. Yeah, I should be back. And I saw Weed Man here. Oh, yeah, my baby. He brought a present for you, by the way. My dude. I love the yellow team. All right, great squad. Okay, before you get out of here, will you try one of these putts? Dude, I'm totally going to try one of these putts. What are you talking about? All right, so I don't know what the best way. Maybe go around that way. And we're going 15, 25, 15? 25, 15, 10. 25, 15, 10. Yes.

38:24Pat McAfee:And here, you just go ahead. You head down there right now. And then we'll do this. $25 ,000 donation. Now, here, yeah. I mean, if I sink one of these puppies, I'll match it. Yeah, but. All right, Joe. That's your move, by the way. Didn't it big night out as well? Yeah. You got to hit that ball. It's a far putt. It's 50. No, he said it's a 50-foot putt. I'm like, dude, Scotty Scheffler couldn't hit this. Well, Scotty's actually a pretty deep-thinking guy right now. Scotty might have been doing the same thing that you and me and I were trying to do. He's giving some very deep answers. For sure.

38:55Pat McAfee:It's awesome. What is the meaning to life type stuff? You know who would do that to me every now and then? MGK. What's that? Just like the meaning of life questions. We were on a red carpet one night together, and they looked at MGK, and they were like, how do you feel about the Grammys? He said, I hope to be in a place one day where I don't think about the Grammys. But right now, it would mean a lot to me. And I was like, that's the most honest answer I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, and I assume the person asked the question, okay, good. Yeah, and they just bumped out. I'm like, yo, my man gave you some gold.

39:24What's your favorite meal?

39:25Pat McAfee:Hey, what's – okay, okay. Where'd you get your nickname? You literally were supposed to leave five minutes ago, so somebody is pissed off at us, but we're in a building of people that are pissed off at us. No, and now you know what? They love you, Pat. Okay. I don't think – I'm going for this big one down here, Bubba. Yeah. Hey, MGK, cool dude? He's the sweetest soul ever. I've got to get y 'all hooked up, bro. Okay, so he came and said, what's up to me? What was that? SummerSlam. That's what I'm saying. Cleveland. He is like the most misunderstood dude ever. He said a very self-aware comment to me whenever he came up to me and talked to me at SummerSlam.

39:57Pat McAfee:And I was like, wow, that's very cool of you to say. And then he walked away and I haven't talked to him. But I saw him on Worldstar do a freestyle from his car. Oh, so good. Way back in the day. Okay, Jelly Roll, this goes right to left. Okay, it's 50 feet. If Jelly Roll makes this. It's going to go, it's dropping this way? Yes, right from your right to left. That's what it looked like. And it is far. I think the first one you should just try to get. Yeah, you don't have to use my hockey stick. That might be a lefty one. Oh, no, that's a lefty putter. Okay. There's putters over there. I know, over there.

40:24Oh, we got more putters? And just so you know, the original way you were lining up there, you would have missed it by a fucking mile. So maybe aim for the hole. Okay. Just so you know. No, Connor, I appreciate it. I just want you to know. So how far has it fallen? Like a foot or two? Not too far, no. I'd say maybe a cup and a half. Yeah, there you go. About 11 and a half. You talk a little golf to me, Daddy, a cup and a half. Pat's on the wireless if you can turn that mic on. Yeah, because y 'all want to hear his reaction when I sink this puppy.

40:55Pat McAfee:50 feet here at the program's Putt-Putt Invitational at the ESPY. Is it fast or slow, Con? Slow, slow, slow. Yeah, you got to hit it.

41:02Darius Butler:Yeah, from about 11 and 12. You got to run it.

41:05Pat McAfee:Oh, that feels like a good stroke from the jelly roll. known golfer jelly roll. Aiming right a little. Oh, shit, I said. That one. Yeah, no, that was off. So, okay. Break, break. You know, it's because I didn't have my Undertaker moment this morning. That's right. Oh, I did, though, actually. I haven't yet. I'm scared to host a show, Stone. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't be. Don't be. All right, cool. You're just firing a hole, Bob. We're going for it, dude. You're just talking to people, Jelly. My publicist is somewhere right now quitting. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

41:37Pat McAfee:More this way? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go like that, but try to go through it.

41:41Darius Butler:It's all in the hips.

41:42Pat McAfee:This is for a$15 ,000 donation. Get going. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's, hey. I might sink this, dude. Okay, I think so, too. Dude, do y 'all know how much shit I'm going to talk to all of the athletes in this building? You're going to hate me, too, Pat, if I sink this. No, the athletes like us. The athletes always like us. Oh, it's the corporate people? No, yeah, yeah. You understand how this goes. Hey, man. Hold on one second. It's the constant arts versus commerce, brother. Am I close? Yeah, I think you're in. Ladies and gentlemen, Jelly Roll makes us. We'll donate$25 ,000, even though it's the third shop because the first one wasn't really a shop.

42:18Pat McAfee:Second one was amazing. The program's Putt-Putt Invitational. Live from the Espes, it's not going to turn. It didn't turn. It's all right. I learned. We appreciate you. That's a good luck, bud. Thank you for having me. I love you so much. Seeing you this morning on my way to work out was like the joy of my day. It was like God letting me know I'm doing the right thing. No, no. Do not have my presence. No, dude. God loves you too, Pat. We love you. We love you, brother. Love you, brother. Love you, Joey. Good luck to you. Man, y 'all know how much I love y 'all boys, man. I'm so proud of y 'all, what y 'all are doing on this show.

42:48Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, brother. Hey, you're going to kill it everywhere. Thank you, man. Yeah, you're the man. I love you. Thank you for your friendship, Pat.

42:54Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Joey Roll. Hello, baby Joey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. I'll see you tonight, brother. Hey, keep that water bottle to yourself, though. Well, maybe not. everybody yeah i bet you do yeah i bet you do okay all right love some of that water actually yeah yeah if that's right next to the espies that would be incredible yeah if we could just hop on over yeah yeah we should think about that a hundred percent i don't know if the jimmy kimmel people see that as a whole what time do they tape though no no we love kibble we do so i don't know if it's the reciprocated. Well, this would be a perfect time to put our swords down.

43:40Well, to be clear, I don't know if we ever. Our swords were never drawn. Now, there was swords representing us. Someone who comes on the program once a week.

43:49Darius Butler:We unsheathed a little. Friend of ours certainly said, hey, I have some feelings. Yeah. And, hey, listen, that guy's first ballot. It is. Hall of Famer. It is. Just wait. And then boom, that seven-minute rebuttal comes back. Oh, shit.

44:08Pat McAfee:We are in the middle of one. With that being said, I don't know if we're going to be able to go to Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight with Jelly Roll, but we would like to say to Jelly Roll, you're going to kill it. Oh, yeah. And don't be nervous about anything, buddy, what we were just talking about down here. I don't want to, you know, when I'm hosted, do it. You're an L.A., brother. Do as an L.A. and does. Exactly. Jelly Roll's team is awesome. They've been so cool to us. Gumpy, you back here? Yes, sir. Jelly Rolls guy came on the bus. Down in Nashville. Vibes are immaculate. Obviously learned a lot of things.

44:41Pat McAfee:We're not taking that water bottle, Gumpy, right?

44:44Darius Butler:Yeah, I think we're good on that. It was a great conversation to learn about the water bottle, but I don't think I need the water bottle. The water bottle, I believe, is an untapped resource in my life that I've never experienced. But anytime I'm ready, I guess it's time to go. I think it's one of those things where, yeah, you got to hear the pitch and then it'll either tickle your fancy and it won't. But my fancy's been tickled. You haven't even heard the pitch. I did at the big-ass stadium tour. Okay. And let me say, in that moment, it didn't strike me. But in California right now, yes, I do believe I will have some water.

45:19Pat McAfee:We are big fans of Jelly Roll and his team and thankful for him and also thankful for sports, always providing stuff to talk about. Congratulations, Sauce Gardner.

45:28Darius Butler:Yeah. Huge.

45:29Pat McAfee:Same day the Garrett Wilson deal was done for the New York Jets out there. We didn't know what was going to happen with Sauce immediately upon Garrett Wilson signing. Massive deal to remain there. Sauce Gardner gets his extension. Four years,$120.4 million, 30.1 mil a year. We had a chance to chit-chat with Sauce. He was very confident. He was very complimentary of the Jets. We brought up the contract. He said, hey, it'll get figured out. Basically, he was kind of laissez-faire about it. I respect and appreciate the fact that it was behind the scenes this deal got done. It did not get loud. It did not get ugly.

46:02Pat McAfee:It's a brand-new regime over there, but obviously you keep a couple pillars on the team. The family ownership, obviously, very proud of these two being drafted as Jets, remaining as Jets, and carrying the torch as Jets going forward. So congrats to Sauce on getting his deal done. He has certainly earned a D-butt. We love this type of stuff happening for guys who, you know, are hyped, Very much hyped, hyped, hyped, hyped, and then live up to the billing, especially in a very tough position like corner. Yeah, top five pick, and he's been everything you wanted if you are a Jets fan, if you're a part of that Jets organization.

46:34He's been locked down a few all pros already, pro bowls. Pro bowls, one of the premier corners in this league and does all the right things off the field as well. We talked to him, brought up the contract. He even said he kind of cut back on golf a little bit because he's been locked down, big year. And Aaron Glenn, that new regime, kind of doing things. This is kind of how you want your organization to do things. Take care of things. Don't let it be drama. Let it be drawn out like it's going on in Washington right now with Terry McCoy. Play that guy. That's a guy you obviously have to pay. Pay the cornerstone guy, Garrett Wilson, Sauce Gardner.

47:04And you give him a little more, 30.1 per year. You obviously get over his draft classmate, Derrick Stingley Jr., who signed up for 38 years. So now you have four years locked in at 30.1. Well, well deserved, man.

47:15Pat McAfee:Now the whole conversation is going to be the same thing that happened with the Bengals. It's like, can you win whenever this is how you spend your money? Yeah. When you're in the middle of especially rebuilding a team, we think keep your best players on your team is the right play. For sure. So we're happy that the Jets did it, but new regime, new eyes, new everything. I'll be excited. Those are good deals, too. As far as value-wise, like Garrett, you don't reset the market or jump up there. Obviously, Chase, there's a decent gap between him and the second guy with him being up at 40. And then Sauce, you bump and make him the number one guy over Stingley because, like I said, he's lived up to that bill and he deserves it.

47:46So they're doing all the right things right now in the July. I hope the Jets win. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they will. But being a Patriots, I hope they do. Think about it.

47:57Darius Butler:Why do they deserve to win? They won't. Gump. Dolphins. I don't know. Hey, Gump. I think maybe you should think about maybe not thinking about that. Dolphins guaranteed Dolphins better record than the Jets. Wow. Okay. I love to hear that.

48:12Pat McAfee:Shout out to the AFC East having a little bit of a battle down there at the bottom. And with that being said, maybe the Jets aren't at the bottom anymore. Maybe the Dolphins aren't either. Maybe they have a plan that none of us can see and everything like that. And we like McDaniels, so there's a chance. And Tua can spin it. But with the Jets, we got a chance to experience their life there for a couple years. Yeah. That sucked. Awful. That was not fun. No. Especially because we bought in.

48:33Darius Butler:Yes. Just like they do. They're going to win. We actually lived the life of a Jet fan for two years. Fuck. Yeah. Right? Oh, yeah. Awful. Terrible. So that's why I hope, like, for the good of the sport, that's a big city. That's a lot of people. And they have never really got a chance to have, like, a fucking – No. Like, a good football season. Not since Game is. Yeah, that's why. That's why. Like, 60 years.

48:59Pat McAfee:That would be a tough existence. Now, granted, I think they feel like they're tougher than everybody else because they've been able to live through it. Sure. And Jets fans and Mets fans have their own, you know, kind of view on life. Right. We know a few of them. And it's like that's almost a part of their charm is like, yeah, we suck. We're going to be like that. He's a miserable bastard. Yeah, exactly. This guy's a miserable sports fan. What do you mean? Oh, he's a Jets fan. It's like, I understand that that's the angle they've had to take to survive. And I respect and appreciate that. And I think it generates pretty hilarious sports fans.

49:26Pat McAfee:Like, miserable sports fans are funny as fuck. Especially with the New York attitude and everything like that. Imagine them winning. And I think that's why the dream was so big whenever Aaron gets there. Because it's like, this entire city that's just waiting to explode, basically. And it did not work out with Aaron. Obviously, injury, fluke injury, out of nowhere, changes everything in the trajectory of that. Then they pay Justin Fields$20 million a year to be their quarterback. It's like, all right, they're going in with Justin Fields. Does that mean they're going in with Justin Fields running the rock?

49:55Pat McAfee:Are they going to pound it? And then all of a sudden, now you pay Garrett Wilson, wide receiver, a lot of money. It's like, okay, so what messages? What are we going to do? You have to be able to throw it at some point anyways, even if your quarterback is going to run it. So I'm excited to see what they do. And Aaron Glenn, we all have respect for, right? Yes, definitely. We all have respect for Aaron Glenn.

50:10Darius Butler:I like how he carries himself for sure.

50:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, and we like his attitude. and the way he views football. And I actually kind of like – I don't like the disrespect seemingly to Aaron, but I am very okay with Aaron Glennon and him being like, we're going into it. I want a new direction. I would assume the Jets fans feel similar. Yeah, exactly. I think the way Aaron – as a friend of ours, Aaron, like fly across the country and then basically just told, get out the door. It's like the guy who's earned more than that in football, I think first ballot Hall of Famer here. no matter how you feel about anything like football, I think he deserves a little bit more respect than that, personally.

50:46Pat McAfee:There's a lot of people that don't think that, but also not inside ball in the entire conversation. But the fact that they decided to go in a different, like, I respect that. I appreciate that. And I think Jets fans do not have, like, the hype that they have had over the next two years. So there's a chance these Jets fans have, like, a fun football run here because the expectations aren't that we're going to win a Super Bowl. But that's going to be a tough division. And allegedly what we're hearing. Yeah. Vrabel massive may fit like. Oh, yeah. They've been together for an off season now. And it's like all of our thoughts.

51:19As soon as Vrabel goes up to New England, it's like New England's back. Sports books go. Hey, just a heads up. New England's back.

51:26Pat McAfee:How many games are they favored in? Eleven. That's unbelievable. Eleven and six for the New England Patriots. Fresh off the last couple of years that they've had would be an absurd turnaround. but we all just kind of believe in it and then we're early word is that braves believes in the quarterback yeah big time and i like the mic'd up of drake mays coming out his interaction with the teammates are awesome the stuff the defense is going to be incredible no matter what but back to the jets with the jets like as a patriot fan this is the first time this has happened in forever where uh they have a coach that it feels like the majority of people are on his side think he's great and they have a stud on offense and a stud on defense.

52:04Like even them just having Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner has to be a positive for Jets fans going forward because it has been a while where every time they draft a first-round pick, either something goes wrong or they leave. And now they have a guy on both sides. Brees Hall is still back there. And the whole change-up thing, too, that you're talking about.

52:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, D-line, I forgot. D-line, Quinton Williams is unbelievable. his brother Quincy like they have actual guys which usually doesn't happen but going from Rodgers to then Fields like you talk about the different styles sometimes that's awesome like when the Patriots did their Cam Newton year and you go from you know the typical pocket offense with Brady to a Cam Newton running the ball style obviously it's weird you want Tom Brady to be the quarterback of the team you're rooting for but when you switch styles like that it is fun because it's just a completely different game and so if they throw the ball 20 times a game and Brees Hall and Justin Fields are you know running for 150 combined and then Garrett Wilson has 100 yards like at least they have an entertaining brand of football that has never been the case probably since Fitzmagic and Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall but again those guys didn't start with the Jets like them actually hitting on their draft picks giving them a second contract I forget what the exact number was, but I don't think they've extended a first-round pick to their second deal since 2015 or something like that.

53:34Pat McAfee:Congrats to Jets and Jets fans. Hopefully it works out. Hey, we're pulling for you. Yeah, sure.

53:40Darius Butler:Patriots fans certainly not, but I would like James East. July 16th. Yeah, we're pulling for everybody. We're certainly pulling for everybody.

53:47Pat McAfee:Big news down in the SEC. They had their media days and the bell of the ball is quarterback for Texas. Yes, it is. There was a photo released of his particular press conference versus everybody else, and it's a Shohei Otani-type situation, Kaitlin Clark-type situation down in SEC media days. And I'll have you know that the young buck handled it perfectly. I haven't done a damn thing in the SEC. Basically, he took the Manning PR plate, humble as hell, ready for the moment, excited for the moment, obviously, appreciates the opportunity, talks about his teammates, how he's hung out with his teammates.

54:23Pat McAfee:It's like Texas has got a guy, and I feel like everybody is starting to think the same thing. And I know it's obviously chalk to say this, but it's like that first week against Ohio State, we're going to learn so much. So much. Now, granted, both teams are going to be alive for the playoff in the end. Both teams can take a loss, but it's like Arch Manning in Columbus to kick off the entire game day season and the entire – it's like, let's go. Like, this is it. Well, that's because that Ohio State defense still. That Ohio State defense. They lose a couple guys and then they just replenish them.

54:59Who's the quarterback for Ohio State?

55:00Darius Butler:Julian Sand probably. They're saying. Another five-star guy. Guy. Yeah, and they still got Jeremiah Smith. And then, like, what a start for college ball.

55:08Pat McAfee:And shout out to Arch, you know. And shout out to Atkinson, who's not going to obviously be down there until next year. The humility of these young guys. It's insane. I think because they've had money since they're like 15. They've already got past the honeymoon phase of being like, I'm better than you. Now it's like, hey, I'm a professional and I'm super mature. And Arch is obviously going to be that way, but it feels like this whole generation kind of has this. Especially these guys who are getting 40 scholarship offers when they're in 7th, 8th grade. It's like, okay, you don't have a choice.

55:34You've got to grow up a little bit.

55:35Pat McAfee:Be arrogant in 9th grade. Yeah. And then once you get to college, it's like, I've been here, done that. Hour 2 on the other side. Who knows who's going to stop by? We're live from the ESPYs. It's going to be great tonight. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We'll see you on the other side.

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57:20Pat McAfee:and a lot of great stories that are going to be told. But tonight is all about celebrating the greatest thing that's ever been created, competition. So whenever you see whoever go up and win tonight, just think about the amount of hours that have been taking place behind the scenes, when the lights were off, the commitment to sport, the commitment to body, the commitment to trying to be the best they could possibly be in whatever their particular sport is. We say thank you to all the athletes that have committed themselves to make our lives better as a society as we watch them try to accomplish a feat that maybe has never been done before with no blueprint as they just bust their ass and commit to craft and sacrifice so much.

57:58Pat McAfee:You know, maybe they don't go to that party. They don't go to that hangout. Maybe back in high school, instead of having the opportunity to go drink the booze with the underagers, they got to go run sprints. They got to be up at 6 a.m. lifting weights. They've sacrificed so many things so that they can be the best in the world at what they do. And tonight we get a chance to celebrate the shit out of that with one of the funniest humans that ever exists on a microphone. This should be a blast tonight for the 33rd ESPYs. We hope you will join us 8 p.m. on ABC. I knew it was on ABC before reading that.

58:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, you've been talking about it all morning. Yeah, yeah, and I think Disney Plus as well, which I have found out that we are a pretty big show on Disney Plus. I did not know that until very recently.

58:38Darius Butler:Every day I go to watch Moana. We're right there.

58:41Pat McAfee:That's crazy, isn't it? It is. Now, on that note, so many great things have obviously been created in this city. obviously L.A. is in the middle of quite a transition because of the catastrophic wildfires that took place and kind of took over. But what they talk about when it comes to the weather in this place, they're spot on. Yeah, they're not joking. This is outrageous. There's no humidity. No, none. There's a little breeze. Somehow we're completely surrounded by trees, but a breeze just kind of peppers its way down and says, hey, don't you need a light little blow in the face right now? Yeah, and you do, and I feel it.

59:16Pat McAfee:And there's even some, you know, clouds seemingly coming and going, and it's kind of blocking the sun perfectly. And then whenever the cloud moves, it's right at a perfect time that the wind comes. It's almost like the weather has a vision for what you need to feel. Without a doubt. So whenever everybody that lives out here is like, I'm willing to pay, blah, blah, blah. I'm willing to wait into four-hour traffic, blah, blah, blah. They always respond with, the weather's perfect out here. Every day is paradise. Yeah. And I'll tell you, right now what we're feeling, they're telling the truth. Yeah, they're serious.

59:49They certainly are.

59:49Pat McAfee:Sat in traffic last night, 45 minutes to get three and a half miles from here. Yeah. Wanted to be upset, rolled down that window. Holy shit. This weather is perfect out here. Yeah. Did you catch any of the extracurriculars, if you will? Because when we were walking through the little town down here on our way back. The little town? Saw a guy pissing on a police station. So I don't know. I don't know. And by the way, I'm kind of bummed no one said bullshit because I wanted someone to because I took a photo. I couldn't believe it. We could believe it. They got everything. I've seen a lot of things in a lot of these cities.

1:00:25Pat McAfee:A lot of cities have a lot of things happening. You see that rave thing in L.A. that they did with the encampments surrounded? The dystopian future looking? Yeah, the dystopian future with the fire and the stuff. I have not seen it. It's wild. I do know whenever you fly into here, so many lights. LA is so big so many people out here so big I didn't really fully grasp that until flying in this time because you go over one of those hills there's a desert and then a big town and then you go over a hill and it just turns into this isn't it crazy back in the day LA was the place everybody wanted to get to Ty you came out here for me it was like I assume at some point I'm going to be living in LA Now with the way the world operates and with the way the internet is, it's like you can do whatever wherever.

1:01:16Pat McAfee:Although, I hope L.A. never loses. It's like, because getting out of here, it's awesome. Yeah. It's far. It's so far. It's super far. I mean, it is super far out here. But it is beautiful. There's a lot of great people out here. We can't wait to see them all. Last night, there was a gathering of the who's who's of people at the Sports Humanitarian Awards. A lot of good things happened. A lot of teams. They spotlighted last night all of the L.A. teams and how much they kind of did for the fires. and how they all kind of came together and how the sports community really rallied around this city and tried to help this city.

1:01:44Pat McAfee:It was really cool to see, like, kind of, because there's 100 teams in L.A. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's, like, two soccer teams, two football teams, two basketball teams, two this, two that, WNBA, like, soccer, professional soccer, women's soccer. I think there's everything. Professional women's softball. Yeah. Like, there is, just in L.A., they all kind of came together, I guess, to help out with the fires. There are so many sports that are happening out here, so many sports fans in LA, just naturally because there's so many humans. I think that gets forgotten about whenever people think about LA because you think about Hollywood and movies and hippies and shit, but there's a lot of sports fans out there.

1:02:20Pat McAfee:There has to be because there's so many goddamn teams out here. Cal, when you went to Cal, I felt like that was one of the biggest takeaways from game day last year. It kind of makes you want, at least for me, it makes you want USC and UCLA and those schools to be good again because you remember of the times when like Leinart and you know Reggie Bush and USC those are our days yeah that was you guys those are our days dogs all right let's get into some sports news on this sports celebration day uh that's one half of the hammer done Cowboys AP tone looking incredibly cool this weekend in Northern Ireland okay we got a big one we got a major we got golf mattering and with that coming we know we got Scotty Scheffler uh all weekend bringing it tone what's going on at the open What do we need to look at?

1:03:04Darius Butler:Yeah, being over here on the West Coast, I have no idea. Couldn't even guess what time it is in Northern Ireland right now. But on Thursday in Northern Ireland, the fourth and final major of the golf season is going to go on. Someone is going to try to join Scotty Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and J.J. Spahn in the major champion list of 2025. It is golf's oldest major. This is the 153rd Open. You mentioned it is in Northern Ireland, which is Rory's home country. So it's kind of a home game for Rory. It's at Royal Portrush. Is he going to win that or is that too much pressure? I don't know. I mean, he played decent last week at the Scottish Open.

1:03:41Darius Butler:He was tied for the lead going into Sunday.

1:03:43Pat McAfee:I'm going to say this to Rory.

1:03:44Darius Butler:Yeah?

1:03:45Pat McAfee:Rory, I love everything you're doing. You walk up to the media and tell them, kiss your ass.

1:03:49Darius Butler:Yeah. You do whatever you need to do, buddy. It is great whenever you're playing incredible golf. Yes. Rory, you need to know from us.

1:03:56Pat McAfee:If you need to take some time, you need to take some time. Shit, I just took some time. I am taking some time from WWE. WWE, sometimes a lot can kind of happen, and then mentally you get to a place where you're, like, exhausted and things like that. So if that's what happened to Rory or if that's going on with Rory or was happening with Rory and he threw it on the other side, Rory, we just want to let you know, we love when you're golfing good. And I love that people hate you. I think that is a good thing for sport, not a bad thing for sport. And if Rory was to win in Ireland, I mean, holy hell, what a scene that would be for golf.

1:04:27Darius Butler:It would be insane. Like, the crowd is going to be behind him. There's not going to be a lot of people hating him. If you could pull that back up, Foxy, 2019 was the last time the Open was at Royal Port Rush. Shane Lowry won. He's at plus 2 ,500. Tommy Fleetwood came in second. He's at plus 2 ,500. Taylor Hatton, also another Euro up there. I mean, the Euros kind of have advantage here. It's always a Lynx course. So what's that mean? That means we're just hitting long loads. It's going to be windy. No trees. Not a lot of trees. A lot of pot bunkers. A lot of pot bunkers. It is supposed to be windy and rainy.

1:04:57Darius Butler:so we are going to have classic open conditions this week. Oh, what's Beef? What's that? Oh, Andrew Beef Johnston. No. Is that his name? You talking about Beef? The old guy from a couple years ago? The guy with the beard. Yeah. Me? Yeah, no, it was Beef. Beef. No. Who's the guy? He's a European guy. He's got a good beard. We talking Shane Lowry or not? No. Is that who we're talking to, Shane Lowry? No, you're definitely, you're talking Beef. I know who you're talking about. Is he a European fella? Yeah. Okay. Hey, I'd like sprinkle a little odds on here. I don't know if he's in the door. I don't know if that's who.

1:05:32I can't think of who the hell Beef is. It might be Tommy's time. Andrew Johnson. Yeah, Beef Johnson. Go show the picture. Fleetwood is who the Beef. This is who you're thinking of. I hope. Did you see that one drop area? Yes. It's diabolical. I don't think that's who he's talking about. Yeah, it is, dude. Are you talking to Shane Lowry? It's got to be Shane Lowry. No, you knew his name. Beef Johnson. Yeah, I know. Start popping up here, all guys.

1:06:00Darius Butler:I don't know. But I'm saying Shane won this in 2019 at the same place. That's Beef Johnson. That's Beef Johnson. That's who you're thinking of. You don't like Shane Lowry. Nobody does. No, everybody loves Shane Lowry. Everyone on the tour loves Shane Lowry. I like Shane Lowry. That guy looks like Lane Johnson with a terrible beard in the golf.

1:06:22Pat McAfee:I probably have, in my history of golf fandom, had massive respect for that particular fellow that just got shown on the screen. That is who I am referring to, though, Shane Lowry. They look kind of like him. I could have sworn you were talking about Beef Johnson. I know.

1:06:38Darius Butler:Man. No, but Shane, he's the defending champ in 2019 at this situation. They're all going to win the Claret Jug. We watched Cam Smith love the Claret Jug, and then he disappeared for a few years, so maybe he'll find his way back this week. I just feel like that weather. What's that? He's not. He's the live guy. Yeah, Cam's still breaking.

1:06:56Pat McAfee:With the weather over there, it feels like the Europeans always have some sort of edge. They're just used to it. Yeah, and it's like there's something that's going to pop up out of nowhere. Didn't John Daly win this one? Oh, yeah. John Daly won this one. Yeah, I remember the entire scene. Yeah, the 19th hole guy running. Yeah. Yeah, and I think the style of golf, I mean, we just brought up Beef. Beef John. And we just brought up Shane Lowry, and we just talked about John Daly. You're saying they've got to this ball. I think the style of play that you need to have over there in the East, types of turn, especially if the weather is going to be the weather.

1:07:23Pat McAfee:I think it is different, you know? Low ball fight. That had to deal with a ball in the air. Yeah, you're right. My job was punting. Whenever you go into a place, like I'm from Pittsburgh, very lucky to be from Pittsburgh. Went to West Virginia, Morgantown, very windy. Like it is a very windy place. So I've always had like a natural confidence in some places. But you get some guys that like punted for the Cleveland Browns forever on that lake or whatever. It's like they have a different level of just like this is what life is going to be like. And it's just that is such an advantage. over everybody else.

1:07:53Pat McAfee:So I think the Europeans, not only the home and feeling like, hey, this is us representing, it's us versus the world right now, kind of like a Ryder Cup feel to the entire thing, especially with their fans, how awesome and loud they are. But it's like I think the weather plays a massive role and the style of play. How many Lynx courses are in America?

1:08:10Darius Butler:Definitely not. They're starting to pop up more because they're doing the whole take the tree out of golf thing in America now, which I don't love. But, no, like you're going to see guys. I'm okay with it. I'd like to let everybody know that I am okay with it. When we're playing, yeah, but you're going to see guys from 150 feet out just putting from off the greens and stuff like that. This is where, like, it's hard to. No. Those shots through the trees, those are the moments. What are we talking about? We're getting them out of the pot bunkers this week. Yeah, but what about a roll? A fucking 22-yard putt?

1:08:38Darius Butler:The fairway is basically the green. That's dark golf. So, uh-uh. 153rd time they're doing this? Is this all the courses for the open? I know, like, are all the courses set up like this? Yes. Yes. That's why we won in 1776, bitch, because we knew that this was wrong. We knew what they were wrong. Carnoustie, St. Andrews, they're all.

1:09:03Pat McAfee:Not like our measurement system or any of the other differences that potentially change in 1776. Golf courses. Strictly the golf course setup. That was one of the things. I remember, you know, Ty actually told me about George Washington's kind of short game, and it was one of the biggest problems he had with the country itself, honestly. Well, we're talking about the Open as royalty has arrived. Congrats, Burke. Art George. Hey. Art George. Don't bring it. Hell of a setup here, brother. This is amazing. Theater last night was amazing. The ESPYs whole thing is really 33 times this has happened.

1:09:38Pat McAfee:Yeah. Think about probably from the first one, how many different iterations of the ESPYs there's been. I think it's a cool thing to happen. A couple years ago when I was a part of it, Obviously, the situation was a situation and everything like that. But, like, it is cool. Like, Tyson was there. Yeah. Like, the people that come through this, it's like a, I don't want to say Hall of Fame, but it is like a Hall of Fame sports. It's kind of a who's who. Yeah, it's cool. It is a Hall of Fame sports. People you would never think that you would see are going to be here throughout the day and throughout the night.

1:10:05Pat McAfee:It's like, that's a cool thing for sports as a whole. And shout out to ESPN kind of linking it all together. It kind of reminds you just everything that happened to. Yeah, it does. We're so locked into it day to day. You forget some of these great moments. Some of these great teams, you know, big championship moments. So I'm excited. It's my first one. So I'm excited about everything that goes down tonight. Who's going to win these awards. It's going to be dope, man. All right. Let's go to some other things happening around sport. The SEC Media Days are taking place. Joining us now, live, boots on the ground, the authority of college football.

1:10:33Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Thamel. Hey, Pete. She's got a spectacle shot. Very not Hollywood here at SEC Media Days, Pat. Not Hollywood. Just a lot of grinding down there, huh, Pete? We're pounding the pavement down there. What are we doing? What is your role down there at SEC Media Day, trying to learn everything you possibly can about everything? Yeah, it's talking season, Pat. So the role is to get to know as many of these new players, new faces of the league, and then just kind of talk to all the coaches and get a vibe for what's next. Okay, so what's the big talking point? It's a blast, man.

1:11:06It's a good run. You know, it has been, if we're going to be really honest here, it's been a little boring. You know, when you think about Johnny Manziel running around here and you think about Tim Tebow and think about all the guys from there, it's there has not been like an earth shattering headline at all. Today is Alabama Day, among others. And so, you know, I think from Zintai did make the playoff last year. So there's a lot of chatter about that. DJ Lagway, who I really think is going to be one of the best players in all of college football next year and a top five pick in 2027. He's going to speak today.

1:11:36He's coming back from injury. He went six and one as a starter last year for the Gators. So, yeah, everybody's kind of rolling through. There's some macro issues that are being discussed, you know, from the playoff and some different things. Yeah, big brain things, as you like to say. So, yeah, it's been, you know, we're kind of in the throes of day three now, Pat, and it's been a media day.

1:11:55Pat McAfee:The throes, obviously, day three, we're in the middle of it, okay? Alabama's rolling in there. I saw their picture of their plane.

1:12:02Darius Butler:Yeah. Didn't love it. New plane? Not the same? Stinky plane? You know the Alabama style, though. Well, maybe Saban took the plane with him. No. You know his style. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's what I mean. He's flying on these planes. Coach Saban is. I've never. Old school.

1:12:23Pat McAfee:I don't want to get too deep into where I live in Indianapolis with where the Indianapolis International Airport is. Is that her? Yes. Yeah. Oh, D.

1:12:34Darius Butler:Yeah, wait. Where the hell is D? He's right here. Oh, wow. Wow. Herball. Did he just roll that in? Yes, he did. Herball. Yes, he did. I've been golfing a lot this offseason. Yeah, can you – will you put a headset on? We're talking to the authority. I know you're a baseball guy. Centerville Elk.

1:12:51Pat McAfee:This guy has the home run record for the Centerville Elks. Also, I did not know you were going to be here this early in the day. This is a genuine surprise that he is here. Did your camera catch that? We had your head, not the actual putt. No, we didn't see it. I saw it. I saw it. Lefty. Hell of a roll. Hey, Pete, real quick. Arch Manning's story of SEC media days and how he's handled it. Everybody understands what Texas is supposed to be. Is that kind of how everybody's looking at this? Is this Texas' conference all of a sudden? Is that what you feel? And then I heard Kirby Smart say, I don't think anybody's for adding nine more losses or something like that to the league or something like that.

1:13:29Pat McAfee:What is kind of the chitter-chatter about where the league is right now as a whole? Sure. So Arch was the story yesterday, Pat, And obviously his appearance here was a huge deal. It generated the most headlines. And look, he's the most anticipated player in college football and probably the last generation, right? I thought Arch really was composed and handled himself really well. He was deprecating. He was like, I don't really deserve to be here based on my performance so far. And really spoke to what the SEC means to him because of his uncles and obviously his granddad and dad playing in the league.

1:14:02So look, there is a unique pressure on Arch Manning right now, Pat, to go dominate college football. I thought what Steve Sarkeesian said yesterday was the most interesting is that they have the best defense in his tenure here. So Arch Manning is not going to have to go score 49 a game for Texas to win. They're going to be able to play complementary football, ease him in. There's going to be less pressure on him to go. As for Kirby, it was his anniversary yesterday. He's really pleased to be spending it with us. Congratulations. Mr. and Mrs. Smart. I think it was a smart decision. Use that, Pete.

1:14:39You can use that tonight, Shane.

1:14:43Pat McAfee:Sorry, Pete. There's an eternal debate in SEC right now of whether they go to nine conference games. That's a key piece of the CFP moving forward here because the Big Ten won't want to go to the 5-plus-11 model, the 16-team playoff, if everyone isn't playing nine games, SEC and ACC included. So Kirby Smart yesterday was basically like, do we want to add more losses? Because obviously there's a feeling within the SEC, Pat, that top to bottom, the league is much, much better than the other leagues. Big Ten national champs as we currently sit back to back years. But with that being said, anybody that just holds that over the head of the SEC is certainly leaving out a large piece of the argument in my eyes.

1:15:26Pat McAfee:But with that being said, Tennessee came up to Columbus, Ohio. Saw what happened. You know, so like can Big Ten teams build their rosters the same way as SEC teams? I kind of got a little bit of a new angle on how we're judging how good teams are because I think where you come from, you have to build your team in that certain fashion. And I think we found out that the SUVs of the North also not that bad, even though they might not be able to have as many five-star four-threes on the team as the teams in the South. I think the conversation has gotten much broader after having now these college football playoff games.

1:16:00Pat McAfee:And that's why I think the home playoff game is so awesome. I thought that was the coolest part of the college football playoffs. I think college football is in such a great spot. Sankey mentioned that yesterday. He said the sport's strained, but we're not in problems or anything like that. It feels healthy. And speaking of healthy, ladies and gentlemen, a man who has looked 24 years old for his entire life has joined us. He just made a left-handed putt with a right-handed putter. Ladies and gentlemen, the face of College Game Day alongside Coach Corso for the last 30 years. Thursday night, Amazon kicking off every single NFL weekend, which we appreciate him for.

1:16:35Pat McAfee:And Saturday night, primetime college football game. Kirk Herbstreit's here. Thank you, boys. Herbie, do you have a question for? I do. First, I want to hear him and Ty go back and forth. you touched on where we're we're potentially heading there with with Sankey and Tony what do you think the final what's the answer what will they end up doing as we try to get that next playoff contract yeah Kirk if I had to predict I think we end up at 16 I I am not confident it will be that in 2026 because of the different variables that have to sort themselves out. But I do think access is king. And I do think if in 26, it's only 12, there will be a lot of animosity for those teams that are 13, 14, 15, 16, and the leagues they come from because there is a window right now to expand.

1:17:26And if you're a commissioner, there's a danger in holding that up because it could really backfire on you with your constituency. So I think that the scheduling metrics and how they are judged by the CFP committee, strength of record is a buzz term. Look, I mean, I'm sure you love this, Pat. They had like a Google mathematician at the last CFP meetings to come in to help them quantify. That's the last thing we need.

1:17:50Pat McAfee:No, shout out to the mathematicists out there, obviously, and the scientists. You've got to do what you've got to do. And the Englishians out there like myself. But I like the fact that they're trying to figure out a better way to figure out what these teams are. But, man, the more chefs you put into the kitchen, I think. But I do think the subjective part of this for all of us, and Pete, I want to hear what you think about this, is I do think a strength of schedule, strength of record, whatever it might be, needs to come into play. Because, you know, if you go to Iowa City in a night game and win, it's different than going to West Lafayette at noon.

1:18:26Well. You know? Shut your fucking mouth, Tony. Thank you for sharing that. Purdue's going to be really good this year. But I just think there are certain losses that you can't just look at a 10-2 the same way. You know what I mean? What happened? A horse disaster. You almost went down. Way to be an athlete. You almost went down.

1:18:45Pat McAfee:I laughed at Ty being very upset at the Iowa City and the West Lafayette comparisons. And I did a lean back in this thing. No. Saved it. I think we were going, which wouldn't have been great because you're making a great point. I would like to say that I agree. I just think that two 10-2s or two 11-1s, how you got there, I think that's what's holding the SEC back, right, Pete? I mean, isn't that what they're concerned about? LSU's playing Clemson week one. We don't want those games to go away. We don't want everybody to go to Kennesaw State or whoever they're playing right now. That's Braun Breaker's shot at.

1:19:26Braun Breaker. Yeah, WWE's dog. All right, we appreciate you, Pete.

1:19:31Pat McAfee:Thank you for keeping us updated. You're the man. We'll see you soon. Shout out. We'll see you soon. Hey, on that note, shout out Pete Thamel. College football is right around the corner, dude. It is. Game day is. How are you only one in the sun? Yeah, it just happened. It did just happen. Yeah, I'm going to be as red as the ESPN logo. We don't have the Marine layer anymore. You want some shades? Yeah, D-Buds. Come on, man. I'm not putting yours on my face. No, thank you. Whatever. Those sunglasses were meant for your face. I guess that's true. You got a deal? with those? No, no. Not yet. Not yet?

1:20:06Yeah, it's almost here. NFL, who is it? Rams or Chargers? Somebody reported already. Chargers are in camp. Teams will be showing up this week in the NFL. College is right around the corner. You guys have done a hell of a job getting through the dog days. I don't know how you do it. I mean, I did radio for about 18 years. You get past March Madness and then if the Reds suck, which they usually do, and then you get all the way, you got the draft, and then you got to get through June and July and August.

1:20:39Pat McAfee:Let me tell you, can I tell you something? It's tough. Can I tell you something about this year as opposed to years past? Yeah. The Indiana Pacers obviously doing their thing. Yeah, that helped. Huge for us. But also the NBA just being like, yeah, come on, come on, come on, come on. Yeah. It's very cool. The MLB. I saw that. You just talked about the Reds. Yeah. I got a chance to meet Ellie De La Cruz. Yeah. First of all. Stud. Huge. He's got his vibes immaculate. Like, he is a good vibes guy. Why wasn't he in the Home Run Derby? I think he was pulling for O 'Neal Cruz. Oh, okay. I believe if you watched when O 'Neal was – the entire Dominican Republic was showing up for him over there.

1:21:12That group, I love it. A lot of energy. I love it. Every time out. Every one of them. And then even whenever they were just sitting in the T-Mobile area, very together, and the vibes immaculate. How about MLB reaching out to you, lads? So cool. So cool being a part of it. With that being said, you love baseball. Love it. You love baseball. Always have. The Reds, I think, are in the same boat as the Pirates. Is that an accurate depiction? No, let's not get carried away. No, we haven't. No, the Pirates have the best picture. The Reds are three games over.500, and they're actually competing, have a shot for the postseason.

1:21:43Pittsburgh Pirates had to start for an all-star game. Three up, three down, by the way. I know. How you doing? Keep it moving. Paul Skeen's baseball. He's a beast. Oh, Neil Cruz, he won 513 feet. Did anybody do that? No. Any Reds? Any Reds? No. All right, let's talk football. Let's talk a little bit more about football. I'm glad you guys still support the Pirates. That's good. I don't really. We support the city. They play in the city. The players and the city. Do you follow baseball? Because the Marlins are okay. They're pitching. Yeah, they're battling. Yeah. They're going to trade everybody.

1:22:13If we're talking baseball, there's only one team we should be talking about, and that's the Boston Red Sox. Of course. We should talk about college football. Yeah.

1:22:19Pat McAfee:Why should we talk about the Boston Red Sox? You guys lost yet? No, we haven't. And we went and visited our commander-in-chief. You got a run, didn't you? Uh-huh. Didn't Boston? The Red Sox got a little run. Ten in a row. They're currently on a ten-game win streak. Donald Trump told Alex Cora, like, hey, man, why don't you think about moving the lineup around, changing some things? Alex Cora. Whatever's happening is happening. Next thing's next. And, you know, all of a sudden the Red Sox are. Real quick, stack your teams in order based on passion in that town. For you. Patriots, Celtics, Bruins, Tide Sox.

1:22:52Sox last. Easily. Wow. Bruins dirt? Bruins dirt? Bruins? You got – Bruins is – I don't know why we're doing this, first of all, but Bruins. That's a good question. Grace Morrison. I was curious. Right at two, kind of 1A, 1B, who's better? Wow. Okay. Did you know that?

1:23:08Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Okay. But if they all stink and the socks are good, like you just heard, they all of a sudden move to one. Right. And they're the ones that matter the most. And let's talk about that. Let's not talk about the other one. Yeah. Boston, very good sports fan base. Great shit talkers, but also great at deflection in moving to another one. And then also, look at the history. Are you kidding me? Where are you from? Yeah. What can you do? It is a constant movement, and it's wonderful. They always win the argument. Just won a title last year. Yeah. And the Patriots, for instance, 20 years in the biggest league, the biggest sport, being able to talk shit to everybody.

1:23:43Just on top of everything.

1:23:45Pat McAfee:And they can do that forever because they had it. And also, they think they potentially have it again. They're favored in 11 games already. That's crazy to think about just because the Braves experience. Let's go to college ball. Wow. Okay. Your thoughts on now we're a few weeks out here from college game day starting. Obviously this is going to be a hell of a year, hell of a run. Yeah. I think the teams and their fan bases are only going to grow. Like I don't, I don't think anything's getting smaller. No, I think college football is very healthy. I think numbers are going to continue to go up for college football because the product is so damn great.

1:24:13Pat McAfee:What are you looking forward to for this college football season? Feels like with the transfers, there's so many different stories you could potentially go with. Yeah. I think the unknowns, I think Arch Manning coming finally into the forefront. You know, he's kind of – by the way, this was very calculated by his dad and his family, sending him to a school with a coach to kind of intentionally kind of put him on that back burner. It's just right up kind of the way the Mannings do things. They didn't want to throw him in the way a lot of these five stars immediately have to be the guy. They put him in a place where Quinn Ewers was the guy, let him ease himself in, and now after kind of seasoning for a couple years, Now he's ready to kind of take off.

1:24:50I'm excited to see what Texas can do, and they jump right into it when they go to Columbus to take on Ohio State. Great week one for game day. Are you kidding me? What a setup there in a tough environment against the defending national champs. But, like, think about Ohio State. Think about Georgia. Think about Alabama. Like, a lot of the teams, Oregon, a lot of the teams that are normally just fixtures in the playoff, they all have new quarterbacks. You know, so it's impossible to sit here and say, Julian Sands is going to be an all-conference or all-American. He might be, but you have no idea.

1:25:21I think that's the part about college football that every – I've been doing this for a long time. Every year you kind of get excited about we know Kirby, we know the brand, but are they going to develop into being the team that we think they can be with a new quarterback? Yeah, and Gunnar's a dog. Can't wait to watch him for the full season. I mean, he was knocked unconscious. He got right up. Yeah, just got right up. Safety came up and blew him up. Knocked his ass out of – What team do you expect to make a big, big jump? I know we are in that NIL era and the checkbooks are coming out. So, like a team like Texas Tech, I know they peaked.

1:25:5428, allegedly. Yeah. I saw that. They're paying in every sport. Specifically, you think can make that jump? I think when I say make a jump, I think it's Clemson kind of coming back to the party. Okay. They've been away ever since Trevor Lawrence left. I think Cade's ready to kind of handle it. And I think they've got enough defense. new defensive coordinator Tom Allen takes over as their guy. I think they'll be back. By the way, they open up with LSU. That's the way college football should be. If you're a player, I've heard a lot of these players interviewed at the SEC, they're so excited to play in these big games.

1:26:31They don't want to play in these games where they're favored by 20 or 30 points. So I think LSU Clemson winner will be interesting because Brian Kelly, I think, has got a lot of heat. I think Penn State has a chance with what they went through last year. They've been so close. You know, I think their fans want them to get there. Boy, they were close last year. I'm excited to see them. But a team that's maybe off the radar, it used to be easier to predict that because you'd say, oh, wow, they got 19 returning starters. Vandy. You like Vandy with Diego? Diego Pavia said that the mission's not done until we win a national championship.

1:27:08Pat McAfee:He said national championship. He didn't smirk. Everyone says Illinois this year. Everyone's talking Illinois. You know, when you wonder Texas Tech and Illinois, those kind of teams, my history with this is when a team is off the radar and then everybody's talking about them, they don't handle it well. They're like a South Carolina's better when nobody's talking about it. I don't know how you feel. Like Iowa's one of those teams. To me, Iowa's dangerous when nobody's talking about Iowa. For sure. When everybody's saying Iowa's going to be great, those teams don't typically handle that. So I don't know how Bielema's going to deal with that.

1:27:43Pat McAfee:Hold on. We've got to pivot to the newsroom. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live to break some news from the Basketball Association. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program. Kirk, do you know this man? I don't know. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams Charon. Yeah. I know of him. He does great work. Great work. Love him. Hey, we're talking 20-hour screen time, trying to get to the bottom of everything. I believe we have some breaking news, Shams. We do. Bradley Beal of the Phoenix Suns has reached agreement on a contract buyout with the Suns. he's giving back$13.9 million out of his$110 million contract.

1:28:14His representative, Mark Barosino, Priority Sports, tells me the plan is for Bradley Beal now to sign a two-year, $11 million deal to join the Los Angeles Clippers. So Brad Beal, Kawhi Leonard, James Harden will all team up together with the Clippers. And so he's giving up some money in this buyout with the Suns, but this now gives an opportunity to compete for a championship, a better basketball fit for him. So he is set to join the Clippers as we are tweeting away here right now.

1:28:46Pat McAfee:Atta baby Shams, way to walk and chew gum and talk and tweet at the same time. We appreciate the news break here. Congrats to Beal seemingly losing$2 million, but probably ending up where he wanted to be. Now with Aiton doing a similar thing, is this normal for NBA off seasons for guys to get out of contracts and maybe go to where they want to go to? for for for players like bradley beal's caliber and deandre eight and it is not the norm but when you think about he he's he has 110 million dollars he had over two years so so it was really his decision to buy out the fact that he's now giving up almost 14 million dollars the sons are going to stretch and wave so that that word stretch and wave is something that we saw happen with Damian Lillard in Milwaukee.

1:29:33So the Bucs stretching away essentially two years, $113 million on Damian Lillard's deal so that they can go and sign Miles Turner. And then DeAndre Ayton buys out, gives up, I want to say$9,$10 million in his buyout with Portland to go sign with the Lakers. And now Bradley Beal, same thing, giving up almost$14 million. He is now headed to the LA Clippers. So not the norm for players of this caliber. and Damian Lillard's still a free agent. We'll see if he ends up signing the offseason. He doesn't wait until next summer, but it's definitely not the norm at this point in the offseason.

1:30:10Pat McAfee:Okay, so Bradley Beal gone, Kevin Durant gone. The Phoenix Suns now have gone into the luxury tax below him. Where are the Phoenix Suns? Because I know with all the rules against them, with all the contracts, they couldn't do shit. I don't even know if they were able to field a team next year if they continued down the path that they went. Is that accurate, or where are they at now? This gives them tons of flexibility moving forward. as they try to build their team. Pat, so these words, first apron, second apron. The Phoenix Suns are now officially fully out of the first and second apron. They are not a first and second apron team.

1:30:41They are scheduled. They can essentially decide. Do they want to be a luxury tax team? They can even go fully out of the luxury tax this offseason. So they're out of the aprons. They also now unfreeze some of their draft picks. So they're going to have more tradable draft picks moving forward because as we've talked about, it's way more punitive being in the second apron, the first apron. It restricts you. It freezes your draft picks. So a bunch of draft picks are now going to be unfrozen in the years to come. Love thawing those things out. Love thawing them out, especially out there in the desert.

1:31:14And they'll have some money too. They're going to have about$7 million,$8 million to use in free agency. They'll have a little bit of their mid-level exception to use in trade. So they're going to have$7 or$8 million with their mid-level. out of both aprons. They'll have more draft picks to play with in the future. So the Suns, this is a move for them to get them fully out of this position they were in. Much more financial and team-building flexibility.

1:31:39Pat McAfee:That's awesome. We appreciate the hell out of your work. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shravani. Hey, Sean. It's good stuff. You got your own newsroom here. Yeah, well, it came from what looked like a bedroom. Yeah. We break some news. They're out of the first. So they're out there. Were they tier two? No. So there's like right here. Oh. Pre-luxury tax. That's huge. It's a big deal because the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers were the first two teams to make the finals that weren't in. I love that. The luxury tax, then the first apron, then the second apron. This is how much money you spend on all your contracts.

1:32:13Pat McAfee:Wow. The Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers were the first team that didn't even crack in. It's like the Rays of MLB. Pirates. Pirates. Reds, yes, like that. You're able to have. That's why it's so easy to pull for them, right? Yes. Yeah, unless you're one of the fans and you say spend your money. Now, the Pacers have had to do that. Oklahoma City Thunder have had to do that in a big way. It's kind of just a part of basketball. Like, I think in basketball it happens. You get in there. But with the first apron, second apron thing, whenever you keep climbing up there, you become like a team that literally just can't do anything.

1:32:41Pat McAfee:Like, you can't trade. You don't even have first-round picks. Thank goodness they got out of that. They're down. I'm happy you care. Okay, so the boys have some more questions about the ball. You talked about Archman and coming out. You're talking about the stories. Diego Pavia said, hey, I'm going to win. Are you going to win it all? Yeah, and I hope he does that. The NFL has a bunch of stories brewing as well. How is the Thursday night football schedule? Have we seen it? Oh, yeah. It's good. Yeah, put it up there. I mean, it keeps getting better every single year. Really? So, it feels like same team you guys have had, right?

1:33:12Pat McAfee:Same team. Behind the scenes? Everything. Studio show, same. Al, myself, Kaylee, the same. Yep. It's our, what, fourth year. You got to feel like much more comfortable, I assume? Yeah, it has. Flew, yeah. Crazy. Fourth year. Yeah, I think that probably set in year two. Year one, I was just kind of drinking out of a fire hose, trying to do game day and the Saturday night game and working with the Amazon team. But now there's the schedule right there. I mean, look at the opening game, by the way. Wow. Look at that game. It's unbelievable. Ty, they scheduled that one for you. Yeah, in Green Bay too.

1:33:46In Green Bay, in Lambeau. I mean, with Jaden Daniels coming in. I mean, that's a good schedule. And then the next one, we got a great one with Miami and Buffalo. See Josh and Tua early. I mean, literally, you go down almost every game. And you know what they've done a really good job over the last couple years is getting more divisional matchups. So I think it's created a little bit more interest and importance in those matchups. If we're going to do divisional. How about December 4th, by the way? They used to all be divisional, right?

1:34:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, it used to be. And if we're going to do that, let's make sure we're Keller rushing the shit out of these guys. Yes. Oh, please. You're big on that? I thought that was a good era. It was all division rivalries, and they all had certain special – I don't think we need to do color rush, but I think if we did a special – Alternate, like alternate uni. Yeah, like maybe it's a throwback or an alternate. Indiana Knights, like how they make those – I'm not saying those jerseys, but how they are trying to make like – An alternate. Specific jerseys, yeah, yeah. What was your guys' analysis and take of Omaha Productions quarterback series?

1:34:45I enjoyed it. So we enjoyed it. Did you watch it already?

1:34:48Pat McAfee:I haven't seen every episode. I have seen a lot of the clips. Jared Goff, awesome. Unbelievable. His whole story, too, him being willing to kind of be vulnerable. How about Cousins just taking, you know, he loses a job. Everybody said, Penix, why did they draft Penix? End of the year, he starts. Yep. And they stay on Cousins the whole way through that. And that story, and I thought Joe Burrow opened up, did a much better job of kind of showing who he is. You know, I thought that was really good. Foxy back in the truck, obviously, watch it because Detroit Lions fans love it. Yeah, of course. Foxy said every single quarterback he liked more, obviously, after watching it.

1:35:21Pat McAfee:Absolutely. Right, Foxy? Absolutely. Yeah, 100%. I like all three guys more than I did before. Like you said, Kirk, I didn't know a lot about Joe Burrow at all. It's just cool guy Joe to me. And then you see him open up a little bit more. I'm rooting for him and the Bengals this year after how he handled that. I forgot he was MVP season last year. Yeah. But the team was so bad that he couldn't win the award, and he was so open about that. I love that. Also, I got to give a shout-out. The editing and the music selection as an editor, I loved it so much. They did a great job. Let's go inside baseball a little bit.

1:35:51Pat McAfee:The scoring of it is spectacular. Obviously, there's a Scorsese of sports over there, NFL Films. And they view themselves that way, and they love everything they put out. And the attention to detail that they do, phenomenal work. I enjoy quarterback a lot. It's also off-season football. Yeah, exactly. And then it gets us a little bit closer to hard knocks. and it gets us a little closer to camp and it gets us closer to the game starting. When's Hard Knocks? Probably early August usually. Yeah. After the first week of August. Who is it? Bills? Bills this year, I think? Chargers. Oh, for Hard Knocks.

1:36:25Yeah, I believe it is. I think it is the Bills. In season one is the NFC East.

1:36:29Darius Butler:Okay. Yeah. Yeah, man.

1:36:31Pat McAfee:Great TV. Tone has a question for you, Kirk. Come on, Tone.

1:36:34Darius Butler:We were talking about all those, you know, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, all having new starters or whatever. So do you think this could be the year where, you know, a team that no one's talking about with a quarterback can come up. And I'm going to give you an example here because I just listened to Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks talk about the Manning Passing Academy. And they said, yeah, they said Klobnik was great. Nuss was great. But there was two guys who stood out above everyone. It was Arch, which, you know, we kind of expected. But then the other one who I didn't expect, they said Lenora Sellers, like down there, like was unbelievable.

1:37:04Darius Butler:His throwing, his body, everything like that. So do you think a team like South Carolina where they have one of these quarterbacks who just have it more than everyone else can maybe make a run? Let's remember now, they were in the discussion at the end of the year. So when you say that, I feel like Shane Beamer, I think maybe year five, I feel like they've been trending towards this. Setback, you know, those second-tier bowl games, sometimes people say whatever. But I think it loses momentum. Bealema beats them. That creates momentum and juice for Illinois. And it sets back South Carolina a little bit.

1:37:38But I think Sellers, I mean, we had him at LSU maybe week four or five last year. Then he had to deal with some injuries. I mean, he's one of those guys, if he were to walk into the ESPYs, you'd be like, that's a guy. I mean, he's a – and I think, I'll tell you, another team is DJ Lagway. Yeah. Billy Napier's team last year, at one point they were like two and five. It was the hardest schedule of the whole time. Guaranteed fired. Yeah. And everybody had him fired. Guaranteed fired. And in this era – Fans were pissed they didn't fire him. Right, right. In this era of NIL and Portal, you're just expecting his guys to check out where they're going to go.

1:38:09And he rallies them. At the end of the year, they win a bunch of games. Lagway, to me, if you're trying to find the guy that in the middle of October we're talking about, where's this guy? I'm telling you, that's the guy. Because we know about Sellers. We know about, I think, Mateer at Oklahoma has a chance. But I think if there's a guy, it's DJ Lagway at Florida that I think a lot of people are going to fall in love with. And I was proud of Florida the way they kept fighting.

1:38:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, on that note, I'd like to say shout out to Napier because we were a part of it for sure. We were talking about just how they had no shot. This guy, he was great at Louisiana. Dude, going into the season, he was on the hot season. And then the Cajuns. So he was great there. And then he gets to Florida and just does not go well. Like, this is obviously terrible. And then the forecasted schedule, this guy's got six straight losses on the board. I think we were all just like, he's gone. Who's the next one after Napier? Yeah, who's going to be the coach? We were a part of it. I was a part of it.

1:39:05Pat McAfee:Then he comes on game day, and he does that throw. Yeah. And he was, like, super cool. I'm like, man, I appreciate Napier not, like, getting mad at us for talking the way we were. But also, I appreciate Napier that, like, he clearly just kept the outside noise out and was just trying to find his team. And as soon as Lagway became the guy, it was like they all kind of bought in.

1:39:23Darius Butler:Yeah, they knocked Ole Miss out of the playoffs in the last week of the year. Yeah, they could have been folded. Yeah. Now, Jackson got hurt. What you're saying is so hard to do. any era, especially right now, where other schools start to see there's blood in the water. Let's go get this guy, this guy, this guy. And so give Napier credit for the culture, but give the players and the leaders of that team a lot of credit for not just cashing in and just saying, I'm out. That's to me.

1:39:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, because you've got a lot of people around the players telling them. Yes. You know, you've got agents now, managers now, family now, social media now, telling you like, hey, think about how great you were in high school. Look what your college career is turning into. Everybody's trying to get you to abandon ship. In fact, once you're out of the playoff, I feel like as a head coach, you've got to have your head on a swivel because keeping your players engaged, finding their why every day, that was always a problem. It's really a problem now. So Florida, to me, is the greatest example of that last year because their season was, most people looking at it, coach fired, season's over, still had four or five games to go.

1:40:28And, man, they just went out. I don't know what he said or what he did, but he deserves a lot of credit. And, like I said, Lagway and those players deserve a lot of credit too. Let's stay in the state of Florida. We all like the team. Yeah.

1:40:41Pat McAfee:But the fan base certainly hated you more than most. Me as well. I think we were all kind of lumped in there. Florida State have a bounce back. What happens with Florida State? What do we know about Florida State? Again, I think it's one of those – I don't know how many new players they have. They open up with Bama. Tommy Castionis is already talking shit on Bama. I saw that. I saw that. I don't know if I personally would recommend that. I don't think I would either. I would like Florida State to be great. Yeah. Well, it's good for – there's certain teams that it's great for the sport when they're good.

1:41:07And I would say that whole state of Florida, Florida State, Miami. When Miami's good, like the days of Miami and Florida State, you just put it like Georgia and Alabama now. You just – okay, we know we're going to Miami and Florida State. That's a given. I miss those days. Like I love those brands. I love USC. Like they're just – West Virginia. Those teams. West Virginia. West Virginia, they're good. And I hope Florida State's back. Jesus and Spikes. Yeah.

1:41:32Pat McAfee:Have you heard about Sir? Oh, yeah. Sir Paul? Have you heard about Sir Paul? No. Jesus and Cleats? Jesus and Cleats. Cheeks? Sir Paul Cheeks. Sir Paul Cheeks? No. You're going to learn today, Kirk. Better wake up. That's from a skit. West Virginia got a commitment from Sir Paul. Sir Paul Cheeks. Jesus and Cleats. Jesus and Cleats. Cheeks. Where's he from? Sir Paul. He's from fucking football god, brother. Hey, all I can tell you is if Rich Rod recruited him, he's a great player. Boom. He's a dog. It's a new era in Morgantown, and I am officially on the bandwagon. There we go. There it is. Because Rich Rod, to me, I am all in on Rich Rod.

1:42:14Pat McAfee:I've heard some stories about the first hill that these boys had to experience with. I love that he says things, the way he talks, the way he says, like, we're not doing that. Like, you know, we're going to go back to work and we're just going to grind. You know, we're going to – and these guys probably, they don't know what hit him. Has he lost a lot of players? So, there's been a lot of action in the portal. And I don't know if it's been a two-way street or not, if it's been potentially like, hey, don't know if you're going to fit in with our style or if the player is saying, I definitely don't fit into this style.

1:42:42Pat McAfee:But we've replaced – Style is relentless. We've replaced now. We've got dogs in there. So, I – They're coming. So, that's what I'm saying. They're coming. So, I had immediate, like, yep, this year they're going to go. But I think if you go from one culture to the next, especially with how polar these particular cultures were for each other. Yeah, opposite. You've got to get it in there. That's the whole department. That's food, nutrition. 100%. Everything. Everything in the building. Couldn't be any more opposite. And I'll tell you, I think the state of West Virginia is excited to have a little bit of a foundation.

1:43:09How could you not?

1:43:10Pat McAfee:Richrod's saying, hey, if we win a big game, yeah, I think they've got an ordinance against it. I guess I'll pay my fine in advance. I'm going to burn a fucking cow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is. Who are their first two or three games? Can we put their schedule up? Absolutely. We got dubs across the board. We're starting out completely undefeated. Pitt is week three, I think. Oh, my God. I hope we go to that. Can game day go to that? It's in Morgantown, yeah. Oh, we got to go. Yeah, there is a real opportunity. We got to get back to Morgantown. West Virginia and Pitt can't trick off the first couple games.

1:43:41Pat McAfee:I think there was a plan in the past, and then something happened. Or Penn State. Yeah. All right, Foxy's got us here. What do we got? Should be all right. So we got Bobby Moe. Don't sleep on Bobby Moe. That's where Wale went. Ohio. In Athens. That's going to be a problem. You're going to Athens? Great Halloween party. I don't know about all the decisions financially, business-wise. All right. Then we got a big one, September 13th. Then we got Pitt, yes, absolutely. That is a war. Then we got Kansas on the road. Love what they do in Kansas. Love the place over there. Utah at home. Utah will be back.

1:44:14Uh-oh. From BYU on the road. Well, they don't have a quarterback anymore.

1:44:18Pat McAfee:Well, yeah, some things. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. I just put on a T there. UCF. No noodling there. UCF, TCU. Uh-huh. What are we thinking? Houston. Uh-oh. Coach Prime's coming to Morgantown. Wow. Love Coach Prime. Uh-oh. ASU, Texas Tech. I see a pass. That's not in – I tell you, the Big 12's got more depth to it. Texas Tech is spending$28 million on our roster. This is the modern era plus side, I think, if you're from one of these schools. if you have a couple boosters that want to get into the game in a big way, you can flip the script. I mean, Vandy's a great example of that. They get a couple guys out of the portal and are able to pay them, and all of a sudden your entire culture is like, wait a minute.

1:45:01All right, all right, all right. $28 million. What are you going to set the over-under on their win total? Is that the highest? Is 28 the highest? I think that's right. All right, so it's top. Allegedly, too, these aren't real numbers.

1:45:16Pat McAfee:We don't know what are real numbers. So let's just say they're top five. They are. So everybody equates, well, if they spent that much, they're going to the playoff. What do you guys think their win total will be?

1:45:24Darius Butler:I know they're co-favorites in the Big 12 with K-State. It's them, K-State, Baylor, Utah. Wow, we got a lot of co-favorites. Yeah, they're all like, no, seriously, they're all like plus 600, plus 650.

1:45:36Pat McAfee:Eight and a half is their over-under.

1:45:38Darius Butler:ASU's got to be up there. Then they were the fifth one or whatever. So is Iowa State. Iowa State's got to be up. He's due, by the way. Matt Campbell? Yeah, yeah, they're due this year.

1:45:47Pat McAfee:Eight and a half is the over-under, Kirk. Your thoughts?

1:45:50Darius Butler:I think they have all 11 coming back on defense, if I remember correctly. They can get to 10. You think they can get to 10? What was their record last year? Do you guys know? I want to say eight and five. If I'm going to – that is off top of my mind. They were eight and five last year. I believe so. We've got to go over then.

1:46:06Pat McAfee:Yes, definitely, especially if they're paying$28 million. I would like any place that's paying a lot of money to a lot of people to win. I wanted the Yankees to win whenever old Steinberg – Did you? Yes, because I like that my team, if we're allowed to do this, if we're all allowed to do this, I like that my team is fully committed to it. But what if your team's paying$14 or$12? So that's why I was never a Pirates fan. So, like, you guys stink and you're not even trying. But what if West Virginia, in this era who you love with all your heart, and they stay in that 10 to 12 range and say, hey, it is what it is, and everyone else is in the 20s and 30s.

1:46:39Pat McAfee:Well, somebody's a part of that 10 to 12 range. Okay, so, you know, there is a thought to that. But I appreciate that we understand who we are, though. Like, we have to get the dogs. Yeah. We have to get the team. That's the equalizer. Like Indiana Pacers. They knew exactly who they were. They had to get their bench with dogs. You can win. Yes, you can find it, especially if you have the right recipe. Now, the issue is, if you win now, the teams that are spending more money. Now, do I think there should be regulations and a salary cap and everything? Yeah. Yes. It has to be. But I'm saying if there isn't, I'm happy if my team is going for it.

1:47:08Pat McAfee:Like, I like that Penn State wants to be great at every sport. Yeah. I love that. Like, I appreciate that they're doing that. Yeah. Now, granted, do I think that it's unfair that they're able to do it and everybody else is? Yes. Should they put a regulation on it? Yes. Should everybody know what everybody's paying? Yeah, it has to be. But in the world that we're in that it's not a rule, I love it. In the meantime, you're saying just put it all in. If you go all in, I like that. You have to strike while the iron's hot right now, too, if you have that ability because you have no idea what's coming next.

1:47:31If they do put a cap, then it's like, hey, right now we have all these alumni and boosters who are basically saying, like, I'll write you a blank check. You do whatever you can. Like, that might not be an opportunity in three years.

1:47:42Pat McAfee:Now, to be clear, doesn't mean we don't think there should be regulations. We don't think it should be allowed. We're just saying it is allowed. If this is the way it is. It is allowed. I like it. Why not participate? Yes. What's Iowa's spending, would you guess? Are they? Are they? Yeah, no. Are they? 15. Wow.

1:48:01Darius Butler:They got the best transfer quarterback in the country. They did. One of. The big thing is. Hank? Hank Brown? It's Hank Brown starting. Hank did go there. Mark Gronoski. I don't know who started. FCS Heisman from South Dakota. He's starting? Yeah. Hank Brown did transfer. I thought somebody transferred out. Hank Brown did from Auburn. But didn't someone after spring ball leave Iowa? Yeah, he was never going to play any of the way. Okay, okay. So you got the FCS guy. You think that's your go-to guy? Yes. Okay. Yep. 15, that's crazy. That's good. I mean, that is the big thing about Iowa. Those farmers will give money.

1:48:34I'm an Iowa guy, too. I love Iowa. I appreciate that. How can you not like Iowa? All right, okay. Huh? It's a great question. The Internet, we looked up how much Iowa spent, and the Internet's saying this to I. Not me. It's the Internet. Iowa's football recruiting expenses are relatively low compared to other Big Ten schools, with only$683 ,000 spent in 2024, according to Hawk Central. This is significantly lower than. That's just recruiting. That's not your roster. Yeah, that's not the roster. They're eating hot dogs. They're not eating sales. That's travel costs. I worked at the office in school where people would call in, And, you know, it's like you're trying to get money for the general scholarship fund.

1:49:12And farmers would be like, yeah, I'm not going to do that, but I'll write you a check for the football team. Like, if they're going to put new facilities up, it's like, I don't give a shit about these kids. By the way, Iowa's one of those places, their facilities, I'd put them up there with anybody. They're unbelievable. Iowa's facility, yeah. Hell yeah. You go to Iowa and you're like, oh, we're in Iowa. And you're like, oh, my gosh. Also, their fans. I'm talking about, like, the softball, the track. Like, all their athletic facilities, state of the art. All right, Herbie, hold on one second.

1:49:36Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, there's a. Uh-oh. Back to Sean. There's a young lad that I got a chance to meet last night, and I believe. Okay, I'm out. No, no, no. You should stay here. Okay. His Make-A-Wish trip was to do the ESPYs. Last night he was at Sports Humanitarian Awards. They put a spotlight on him. Lit up the room. Awesome. Lit Colts fan. Oh. Here we go. Absolute dog. I believe from Illinois. Don't know it entirely, but an absolute beast. I love to get him on the show to come say what's up, especially to you, Herbie. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Dylan. Come on, Dylan. Yeah, Dylan.

1:50:11What's up, Dylan? You can sit in my seat. I'll stand back here. How's it going, man? You can slide down, Kirk. What's up, man? Darius, nice to meet you. How are you, bud? Good to see you, man. There you go.

1:50:22Pat McAfee:Dylan, thank you for stopping by. Okay, so we have a few minutes here before we go off ESPN, but we will continue digitally. Dylan, can you just talk a little bit about this weekend? And also, I don't know the official title of the prognosis that you have. I tried to read it or whatever. You've battled this. You've beat it before, right? You're currently battling it yet again. How old are you? Where are you from? And what is this weekend? So I'm 18 years old. I'm from Peoria, Illinois. And I got to make a wish. Well, my cancer is I have rhabdomyosarcoma, which is a solid tumor in my prostate area.

1:51:00And when I was diagnosed, it was 9 centimeters by 8 centimeters by 7 centimeters in diameter. So like a very big tumor. And I had 66 weeks of chemotherapy and 7 weeks of radiation. And I'm a St. Jude patient. So I beat it. And then in my three-month follow-up scans, there's a suspicious spot that they wanted to monitor. And it ended up being another growth, just a relapse, so a reoccurrence. and so I'm on chemotherapy again and I've been battling it and it's going good and so for my make a wish I wanted to come to the ESPYs and then I was blessed to be here now and I was on NBA Today yesterday Come on dude We're lucky you're here It was a clean dab

1:51:45Pat McAfee:We're lucky you're here We have a minute and two of the hard out on ESPN I wanted the people watching on TV to learn about you because you're in the middle of battling chemo yet again Your energy is awesome You can feel that man Love your attitude. The mindset is we beat this, we move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like put your head down and work and go through it. And so that's what I've been doing for the last two years and just enjoying every moment. Just everything's a blessing. And you're a sports guy? Big sports fan, yeah. Fisherman in high school? Yeah, hell yeah. High school fishing in Illinois.

1:52:16Fellow angler, that's what I'm talking about. Hell yeah, babe.

1:52:19Pat McAfee:All right, we wrap up here on ESPN. We continue digitally. This is Dylan. He's a badass. He's going through something he's going to beat. We obviously will all send positive vibes, and we will see him down the road conquering something because he is going through something that's going to make him tougher forever. We appreciate you all so much for watching. Espy's tonight on ABC. We'll see you later. Goodbye. Okay, now we continue digitally. Sorry about that. You're good. That was eight. Now to be clear, Dylan? He's really perfected that. I fucking nailed that. I absolutely nailed that. Okay, so you're a sports guy.

1:52:52Pat McAfee:Always have been. And Espy's feels like the right decision for a Make-A-Wish. That is. Yeah. My mom wanted to go to, like, Hawaii or something. I'm like, we're not doing that.

1:53:05Sorry, Mom. Yeah. So my dad is a big sports fan. He's a high school basketball coach, girls' varsity basketball coach in Illinois. So I grew up in the gym. Every day going to an open gym in the summer and stuff. So I grew up there, and we just fell in love with sports, and that's all we do now. So I'm a three-sport athlete. Both my brothers are three-sport athletes, and that's like our whole life is just basketball, golf, tennis, everything. Who are your favorite teams and favorite athletes? I'm a Colts fan. Yeah, hell yeah. Give me another one. That was good. Feel bad for you. That was a good.

1:53:41Yeah. Yeah, a little moist, too, because I've been sweating for the last hour. The sun is really hot. Right on you. Yeah, I'm getting broiled out in L.A. So Colts? Yeah, Colts, Lakers. I don't really watch baseball, but I'm a Cardinals fan, I'd say. Yeah. Don't really watch hockey, but playoff hockey. I love playoff hockey. That's fun to watch. So you hate the Penguins. Pick up the Panthers. I don't care. Panthers. Good squad to root for. I do like Florida. Golden Knights also. No, I haven't been.

1:54:06Pat McAfee:The Panthers have been in the playoffs the longest, the last. Yeah. Yeah. So Panthers aren't a bad team to become a fan of. No, no. No, they're not. Pittsburgh Penguins are on a comeback. I mean, if I'm you and this is just unbiased, I'm picking the Mammoth just because. Oh, a brand new team. They're new and they're cool. And their owner is going to spend – he's going to try to make that team as good as possible. It's your boy, right? Yeah, Ryan Smith, good guy. And if he heard you were a Mammoth fan, obviously, I think you'd potentially be playing for the team if you want. Let's talk about your favorite angler, Van Dam.

1:54:36Pat McAfee:Is that your favorite fisherman? KVD. Well, I met Scott Martin. When we went into the Bassmaster Classic, and we met Scott Martin, super cool dude. And I've been watching his fishing stuff for a long time. What are you doing, smallmouth, largemouth? We fly fishing? What do we got? Largemouth. That's what we have in Illinois mostly is largemouth. So that's, like, what I do. I've gone out of Texas and fished a couple times. That's really cool. Ty Schmidt was a college angler. Yeah, Big Ten angler. Really? Where'd you go? Iowa. Need to get you out on Lake McBride. Yeah? Need to do it, yeah. I've heard the trout fishing in some of those creeks is pretty good, too.

1:55:08Top notch. Yeah. It really is.

1:55:10Pat McAfee:What is the best fish? Swordfish, obviously. I caught one of those in Lake Minnetonka. Bingo. Deep sea. Yeah, deep sea fishing. Never been deep sea fishing, but it looks pretty cool. Yeah. That's where men are made. Hey, we'd like to let you know, if we ever do the deep sea fishing, which sounds like a no, seasickness, out in the ocean. Yikes. I think you're going to wake up like 4 a.m. or whatever. If we ever go, you're coming. You're in. Boom. All right, sound good? Anytime. All right, kick ass. Enjoy all this. And know that your energy makes us all better. You need to know that. Great spirit.

1:55:44Pat McAfee:And do you want to try to give a putt here for maybe a little charity? Maybe a little bit of color? St. Jude? St. Jude. Perfect. Okay, let's do this. You get three putts. Each of them will be for a$25 ,000 donation. All right. Okay, it is a 50-foot putt. Very difficult to make, but certainly attainable for somebody as awesome as you. He's a golfer. Each one will be$25 ,000. I don't know. This is exciting. There's stairs back there. It could also go that way. You got to go right here, huh? I'll hold the stick. That's tough. Yeah, no problem. Herbie, you want to come down here? Yeah. That is tough.

1:56:19Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, you could never make it. No, I made mine from 25 feet.

1:56:23Pat McAfee:Herbie, you're going to be putting after him. Oh, okay. Yeah, so make sure you know that. Righty or lefty? Righty. You are righty. Okay, we have a big one, like a hockey stick right here, if you'd like. This is from our friends at Lab. Not conventional. I don't think a lot of people would say that's the right one to pick, but I love it. Oh, we got a little blade here. Okay, I like what we got going on here. What is your golf game? You said you play a little bit, right? Not really. Golf's hard. You don't have to have it on that thing. You're just in the area. Just in the area. Just in the area.

1:56:53Pat McAfee:Kirk was putting on this green earlier. Do you have any advice for him about this green? Just make sure you don't leave it short here. It's right to left. It's right to left. Isn't that good? Don't want to leave it short. Final thoughts here. Did Kirk Herbstreet help you at all?

1:57:08Darius Butler:No. Okay. That's your advice. You should see.

1:57:13Pat McAfee:You should see what he does to the field goal kickers every Saturday. He looks him right in the eye and goes, I don't think you got it in you. You got no shot. I think it's like two and a half cups right to left. So you've been out here practicing. I hit 15 at this earlier. Did not make a single one. Seriously. Close. There's a little wrinkle here in the turf. You see that? Oh, that might have been. Maybe let's go in front of that. Let's go in front of that. Let's go in front of that. Let's go in front of that. That's not. That's why. Did you see this? That's me looking out. First time. That's a good guy.

1:57:42Pat McAfee:Good guy, Herb Street. Hey, that's good guy, Herb Street. Actually, you might be able to play it all the way down the line there. All right, let's make this makeable at least here. It felt like we're going to get you. Where's Peter? Dylan, for$25 ,000, we just asked about that most famous dog I know. I'm just joking. He's doing squats. All right, Dylan, here we go, brother. $25 ,000 donation. What's that? Is it playing fast or slow? Me, middle. I think you do have to hit it a little bit. It's like an 11 on the stint meter. They're saying 11 on the stint meter. I don't know what that means, but you will.

1:58:13Pat McAfee:Just like we're out there on the lake. Dylan for$25 ,000 to St. Jude. A little left. That's all right. Hey, that's a good roll, though. That is a good roll. Hey, that's a great touch. What did we learn from that one, Dylan? I just got to hit it right. Boom. Okay. First of all, what helps him here is he's going Nike socks with the roll. Yeah. He's got it all lined up here. I think he's going to drop one of these. Great accessorizing. It's important. 93 angles is what we got going. Yeah. I think, yeah. Just do it, they say. Let's push this to the right just to cover, like he said. Got a man in a great tank top right behind the fountain.

1:58:48Looking good, huh?

1:58:49Pat McAfee:Don't be distracted, Dylan. Tighten up, Dylan. $25 ,000 donation to St. Jude on the line. Dylan, dog. Oh, oh, oh. Get in. Oh. Turn. Oh, man. Is there another bump in front of the hole? Is that even makeable? Yeah, is there another bump in front of the hole? I think there might be. I mean, that was unbelievable. We got a bumpy green. I think there is. I think there is. Gimmick hole. See that? You see that? Oh, my God. Oh, no. What the hell? Oh, no. It is unbelievable. Maybe we should go this way. Hey, how about this one? Gimmick. Over the side. That one would have never won in. No, this is. You got no shot right there.

1:59:29We're the worst people of all time. We did that to you. What a putt. What a putt, dude. Holy. Could you imagine doing that? That was unmakeable. That's carnival. That's a state fair. How about this? We'll count that one. Okay, we'll count that one. We'll count that one. That was a great putt. Now, on this particular putt, we have no idea what this is doing. Nobody has putted at this green since it's been built on this property.

1:59:54Pat McAfee:Now, I feel like you could be able to get a good eye on it. Maybe you get two rolls at this thing. $25 ,000 already being donated because you got jobbed out of that one. $25 ,000 for this one and$25 ,000 for the next one. If I'm you, I'm probably getting a feel for what the role is on this first one and then attacking the second one. Do you agree? I like that strategy. Let's go. All right, you already have one in. That was a great putt. Great putt. The speed. Excellent lag. There was a hill. I can't believe we did that. Yeah, no hills here. We're good. That was too much, the first one. Connor giving you advice from the back.

2:00:31Pat McAfee:Dylan! That's a good-looking stroke. Dylan! Right at it. Great speed. Perfect speed. Perfect speed. You're on your high school golf team, too, or no? I've never played a full 18. That's my guy. Wow. Nine? Dylan has ADD like we do. No, you play nine, you get a sandwich. You don't play 18. That's me as well, yeah. Twelve holes is the right answer. Don't you agree? I don't golf. I don't golf. I just... All right, unbelievable work. Last opportunity here, Dylan. Pat, you go 12? What's that? You go 12 holes? If I could, yes, I would go 12. Sorry, Dylan. We are talking in your backswing here. $25 ,000 already donated.

2:01:09Pat McAfee:Here's for another$25 ,000 to St. Jude. Dylan from Illinois. About 30 feet. He's aiming left. Yeah, you're aiming left. Oh, no, they called it. They said your ear lined up wrong. Oh, boy, they did call that. Yeah, it's all right, Dylan. All right, now let's do another one. Let's do another one where Connor lines him up. Okay, hold on. This one's for the boys now. They're going to line you up. You want to get down there and read it? No, from up there, because he's got a great view of it. Yeah. All right, here we go. Line me up, Con. All right. That ball? There we go. Yeah, stand over like you're about to hit it.

2:01:38Pat McAfee:He said stand over like you're about to hit it. That's left still, right? No, stand over like you're about to hit it, and then they'll just move you. A little more to the right. Yep, there you go. Aim a little to the right. A little bit more to the right, they're saying. Too much, a little back. A little bit back. You want too much, they said? We might be in play here. They're saying that's it right there, Dylan. We might be in play. For$50 ,000. $50 ,000. $50 ,000. This will be cool. Put a slight fade on it. Boom, boom. Oh, we got a shot. We got a shot. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

2:02:11Oh, sorry.

2:02:12Pat McAfee:$25 ,000. Still great. Dylan, your story is going to inspire many. We appreciate you hanging out with us, dude. Enjoy yourself. All right. Cheers, dude. Have a great time, man. Hell yeah, Dylan. Family, great to see you guys again. Sorry it wasn't Hawaii. Yeah.

2:02:28Dylan, we appreciate you. When we go deep sea fishing, we'll call you. I don't think that's going to happen, but you know. You never know. You never know.

2:02:35Darius Butler:Never know. We should put a pond into the Thunderdome. See you, Dylan.

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2:03:44Stock it. All right, lads. I know you guys got a lot more show to go.

2:03:49Pat McAfee:So, no, you got to sit down for five more minutes. Okay. Because you got to separate the putting. Can't have putting back to back. Oh, you're serious about me putting? Yes! Someone's going to putt with me, right? What do you mean? It's your show. No, no, he's going to putt with me. Butler birdies. Okay, we'll do Butler birdies. Butler birdies. Okay, you two. We'll putt eventually here. You see the soccer? We can break the soccer down. They lost. Gumpy, what happened in the soccer? What happened in the soccer game? Where's Gump? They were robbed. Gosh! I miss that voice. Gump, it's almost go time, buddy.

2:04:23Get your dolphins ready. It's our second game. Yeah, we'll see how they do this year. It should be fun to watch. I can't believe you guys have not asked me about big-time wrestling. I went to WrestleMania. Yes, you did. I never got to talk to you guys. You're right. How do you feel about it? It's awesome. It was experience, huh? Did you see? You see a tribal chief? He's back. He's back. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I went in with very low expectations. Wow, he said where it could be to showcase how low the – And Nicky Kahn put me, like, almost in the ring. Front and center. Saw you, right?

2:04:58Every time something happened, I'd look over at Pat. Pat's going crazy over there, just going wild. That's awesome. Kittle's right behind Pat. I thought they were going to do their own big-time wrestling show. That was the coolest thing I think I've ever been to. Yes, right? Forget about fake or real. The athleticism. It's real, Herbie. You don't even have to practice it. There's not that. You don't have to say it. That's a conversation. Just listen to me. The jumping. They are stuntmen that are doing theater. You know, the way they grab the mic and they yell and all that. It's storytelling. The way they come into the performance, into the ring.

2:05:37Interesting. The way they jump over top of the ring, you know, down on the ground. Randy Orton was right in front of you. Randy Orton was. I mean, just. I'm like, when's the next one? I had a blast. He came over to us after the Sin City street fight. He said that was like the best 13 minutes of my life. It was incredible. The women's triple threat match. I know. That's what blew it. I thought that was the time to maybe go get a drink when the women were playing. Yeah, right. They were as entertaining as the others.

2:06:05Pat McAfee:Herbie, you need to go in there and feel it one time, too. Like, you need to feel the. Get in the ring. Take a ball. Oh, no. Yeah, no, no. You need to feel the energy. You need to feel. No, not. It can be an empty arena. It can be a barn. From the ring. You need to feel the rose. Oh. Like, one time on your body. Yeah. You need to feel the physicality. Just the amount of toughness you talked about. Those guys are amazing. Everything hurts. Those guys and girls that go in there are absolutely. That's what I was going to say. When they're done and they go backstage, tell me their lower back hurts.

2:06:38It has to be.

2:06:39Pat McAfee:I mean, it has to be. I don't know how they do it. It's so entertaining. People get very, very hurt. Some of the, you know, screenshots that like Sheamus or Gunther will post after. I mean, the one you posted after, like it is immediate. It's incredible what they did. You're committing to a performance, but the performance is obviously one that you can win. You know, you can get it, but you are exposed completely. Oh, yeah. You know, everybody's right. You said you were in the ring. Right there. You're right there. So everything that's happening is happening from all angles. Everybody's watching.

2:07:13Pat McAfee:And it's like one slip up, catastrophic. People have passed. one slip up potential being paralysis because that can happen that has happened recently I mean it's like the production the whole thing was just so first class it was really cool to go to can't wait go back you said in the moment at least when we were there you said Joe Hendry was your favorite aside from Joe Hendry I did you said you believe in Joe Hendry Who was the guy in the row that you, aside from the show? Orton. Randy, okay. He's with Jelly Roll. I saw that. Him and Jelly Roll, Logan Paul, Drew Backdott, SummerSlam. That was in Nashville.

2:07:58They just had a. Yeah, they just got after a Friday night smack. Randy Orton, I mean, if he were a football player. Three tech? I think he's an old Patriots Willie McGinnis, like outside defensive end. You know, like what's his height and weight? He's doomed. They're saying 6 '6"? 6 '3", 100. Is he 300? I was thinking 285. Dude, he is so jacked. He's broad. Yeah. How old is he? 40-something. No way. Late 40s? Yeah. Are you kidding? Early 40s probably. He's been doing it forever. Listen to this.

2:08:34Pat McAfee:Listen to this. He was the youngest world champion. So he'll disappear for a little bit for whatever reason, you know, because it's like he's 40-something. However old he is. Yeah. And then he'll come back, and he looks somehow even bigger and more jacked. His damn legs. Quads, yeah. Quadzilla out there. Real deal. He's a quad god for sure. Yeah. Yeah, he's putting the miles, too. And the years in the bumps to the business. That's another thing. I remember his dad. Yes. Yeah. Cowboy. Yeah. The business, though, is one that I think you would appreciate. It's built on, like, respect and, like, everything.

2:09:06Pat McAfee:You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a really – it's a great business. It's a cool business. It's a fun business. And the live events that they put on are outrageous. Unbelievable. Yeah, I was lucky whenever I was commentating out there. You do a great job with that. Thank you. I got real tired, man. I bet. I cracked. You hit a wall? Yeah, I hit one. How could you not? I'd be going since Dublin. I know. And they started raw early. And I'm like an energy guy. And I don't need a lot of sleep to operate like I've always been that way. And then I just got to Money in the Bank in L.A. And I was on the East Coast for TST.

2:09:37Pat McAfee:Yep. And then I went down to Parris Island. and then I went to LA for Money in the Bank and I could just feel it. I'm like, oh my God, my brain is not like operating right now. Yeah. I am. And I talked to others that have maybe experienced like mental exhaustion before whenever they have had it. Yeah, it's like brain fog. And I've talked to them and I've been like, I'm staring down what you went through there. Like I knew this moment was coming. Like I knew it was going to happen at some point and it happens to people. So like I talked to people about it happening and what they went through whenever it happened.

2:10:08Pat McAfee:and like as money in the bank was happening i was like oh my god yeah this is it this is i've finally hit it and i never thought it was going to happen but you add in like my daughter that's real wanting daily wanting to be around the daily show the travel and then also trying my best and i know wrestling fans don't think this i think a lot of them don't think this the wrestling community doesn't think this but like i was trying to put everybody over like maximum effort full every time trying to put people over to people that are watching. And it's like, I think that with the travel, with me not getting back to like 2, 3 a.m.

2:10:45Pat McAfee:on Monday nights. Takes a toll. And then that's the beginning of our work week, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I got 12 hours left of being on it.

2:10:52Darius Butler:Well, then there's a premiere event every fucking weekend. Yeah.

2:10:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, and those, Atlanta, we start stacking up, then we're out there. It's like, it's an honor to be a part of. But like - How'd you get out of it? Work ethic. Nick Khan, man. I was like - No, not that. How'd you get out of that brain, that just fatigue? I think I, because we had to show, we still have to do show. So like - Got a couple good nights sleep. Have to do show, like not, yeah. Just kind of backed up? Just slow down. I stopped going to Monday Night Raw, so that took away two planes and a two hour sleep a night week away from the schedule. And it was like, stack a couple of those weeks.

2:11:25Pat McAfee:By Wednesday. Yeah, it was like - It wasn't even a couple of weeks by Wednesday you were like, man, I feel like that. Holy shit. It was bad. Well, and if you didn't do it, like you snap your fingers and then boom, game day's back. Right. And also Corey Graves, so good. Wade Barrett, so good. For people that watch wrestling, for whatever happened to Seth freaking Rollins, that's a massive ordeal to the WWE because everything that's going on right now, for me at the commentator position, it's like show moves on regardless. So the ability to not feel absolutely fucking terrible for having to take a step back because I'm tired.

2:12:06Pat McAfee:WWE has, on the other side, because they have such a hard work kind of mindset and travel mindset, and they've been doing it for so long, they understand people get to, like, hey, yeah, we understand you might need to take a sleep for a little bit. Yeah, for sure. So they've been great. That's awesome. And I will always love the WWE, and I miss it. But I'll tell you what, I didn't think I would have made it. I don't think I would have made it. I was eyeing football season right around the corner. Yeah, it's going to be here. I don't know if I'm going to be able to survive this thing. Yeah. Well, you maybe learn from that for next year, in years to come.

2:12:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, just as an adult. Yeah. Well, having a daughter is a different ballgame. That's changed everything for you. Yeah, she's awesome, man. You know? How are the boys? Everybody's great. How is Peter? We didn't talk about Peter. Yeah, Peter couldn't be better. He's got a little brother named Bo now, so he's six months. He's the same dad as Peter. Oh. First time I've ever had him. So he's a horse already? He's 65 pounds, and he's six months. You have some monster dogs. They're big guys. and they're just chill. They look like a pride alliance when I take them for a walk. They're the best. They're doing great.

2:13:13I'm going to bring Peter out every week. I have a lot of people asking about Mitch. He's the five-year-old. It's a little bit darker. Red, red, red. Not red. It's just more of a traditional kind of golden. And then Bo I've got to bring out. Bo's still a work in progress. He's still in training. You said Mitch doesn't really give a fuck, though. Does not. He's about 100 pounds, but he thinks he's a purse dog mentality. He would just sit right here. See, he would love that. Just chill.

2:13:46I can't wait to get back. I know, man.

2:13:49Pat McAfee:We're celebrating tonight. Yeah. Legend. Legend. Living legend. We're all out here, or at least I'm out here. I know you'd be out here regardless for Lee Corso. and the ESPs are going to do a nice tribute to him and everything he's meant to the sport and to ESPN. That would be awesome. It'll be a cool moment. I think it's in the first hour of the show tonight. The show's at, what, 8 o 'clock, I think, tonight, Eastern. And, you know, he turns 90 August 7th. Unbelievable. So we'll see how this goes. It's very unpredictable how it's going to go. You know, it's going to be fun to see how he does.

2:14:27Pat McAfee:I hope he gets a chance to take in all the flowers. You know, like getting a chance to see him get emotional in Indiana. Yeah. When he saw his old players. And then I forget where else where they gave him a key. And you saw him, like, take it in. Yeah. You know, and it's cool to see him take it in. It is. I obviously haven't known him anywhere near. Yeah. He's been very good to me. Yeah, he loves you. Yeah, he's been very, very good to me and nice to me. Yeah. And it's like a very interesting time. It is. To kind of watch your guys' relationship, watch the show, watch college football. And then also watch a pillar of sports.

2:14:58Yeah.

2:14:58Pat McAfee:You know, basically through it all. So it's an honor to be asked of you. Yeah, I'm glad you're here. Dez is here. It's, you know, he's got one show left. He's just going to do the Ohio State-Texas game for College Game Day in Columbus. It's a noon kick, 100 ,000 people in that stadium. The first headgear he ever put on was Brutus. And now the last headgear would be the ultimate WWE move if he put Bevo on. But I think I'm guessing he'll put Brutus on. I think they're going to try to get him out on the field because we move inside and maybe a special moment there. And also Texas and Ohio State are all people that everybody in all of their organizations, I think, love Coach Corsett.

2:15:40Pat McAfee:I think that's the behind-the-scenes stuff that I've learned about college football is the family aspect of college football as a whole. And I know a lot of people think ESPN has a monopoly on college football. Why are they able to do this? It's like I can understand why people would think that on the outside, especially if your team feels like you got robbed or whatever. The people at ESPN with college football, they are they sacred their entire lives. Like there's people that their entire lives now granted coaches and, you know, PR people at schools and SIDs and athletic directors. They feel the same way about the sport.

2:16:11So everybody kind of is like minded in everybody respects and appreciates Coach Corso.

2:16:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, it is one of the most, you know, kind of unique things to watch because everywhere there's always heat with somebody. you know they're always i mean there is i mean there's a lot of heat in this hotel with us or whatever and there always is he is one of the only people i've ever watched that just like just a lovable character everywhere universally everywhere good in every single locker room neighborhood and uh yeah it's been cool to watch i will say this the one thing that probably your age group doesn't know about him is when it was just linear tv and i first started he he was the pat mcafee of college game day like he would say things that no one would say those clips are great and people people right a lot of people forget that part of him it'd be like you 30 years from now still being around the business and people forgetting this you know i'm saying like this part of pat mcafee because you've changed because lee was a very um he'd get sideways you know like like one time northwestern played wisconsin and we were in studio doing a rap show and wisconsin didn't take a knee at the end of the game and they handed it off maybe to ron dane or somebody they fumbled and northwestern recovered and northwestern scored and won it was a game that was just it was supposed to be over wow and then the guys that were calling the game said oh my gosh pandemonium i can't believe it let's go back to chris fowler and the guys in the studio i'm like my second or third year and lee corso because of the pride of coaching like he was he in his brain he was coaching that game he went off on of all people the guy i call al capone barry alvarez he just was pounding the desk saying he needs he blew the game he needs to go into that locker room and apologize to his his players he lost this game like he and we're like okay hey And he just kept going and kept going.

2:18:14And then like two months later, we had to go to the National Football Foundation dinner in New York City at the Waldorf Astoria. And I'm just like following coach wherever he goes. And Barry Alvarez, I swear to you, that's why I call him Al Capone. He had like a white scarf on, a black coat down to his knees and just happened to be coming out of the elevator right when we were trying to get by. And Barry Alvarez had about three or four guys with him. he looked at Lee Corso and just MF'd him and told him, like, you're basically, you're dead to me. And so that was kind of where he was when I started in the career.

2:18:53So now he's the last. You're saying heat. He did have heat. There was a time of heat. But he got heat from coaches because he said stuff that just nobody else would say.

2:19:03Pat McAfee:I don't know if he told me this or if somebody else told me this, and I don't know if I'm supposed to say it live or not, but I guess there's been a lot of coaches that have wanted to meet Coach Corso and like talk to Coach Corso, and he doesn't want to meet any of them. No. He said, I don't want to have any biases. He doesn't want to be friends with any of them. Because he doesn't want it to prevent him from saying what he wants to say. It's awesome because everybody will come up to him and be like, hi, Coach, big fan or whatever. He's like, okay. He literally is like – Yeah, he just kind of stays at a distance.

2:19:31It is awesome. Yeah. Because I – in my head, I'm like, I think I should stay like that. I know.

2:19:38Darius Butler:I think I should be like that. But it is nice to know the coaches and know them as people.

2:19:42Pat McAfee:Then I meet like Coach Lanning, and I'm like, oh, this young guy. I'm like, yo, good to see you. Yeah, and they're such good guys. And hardworking. Yeah. And they love ball. Yeah. And we love people that love ball. That's why we get along with you so well. Now, I think it's time to wrap this thing up, and we need a putt made. Oh, boy. All right. Let's do it. Let's go. All right, boys. Go, boys. Come on, boys. All right. Hey, you can use my putter. Which one? The good one, though. They're all good. Come on, they're lab putters. I don't know if all the putters are lab putters. Which hole are we getting in?

2:20:17Don't you think we should do the one that Dylan tried? Yeah. It's definitely made it right.

2:20:21Darius Butler:If he didn't leave it a little short, it was going in. A little bit of a read on it? Yeah, it looked like the other one.

2:20:25Pat McAfee:Hey, he first shoot got fucked. Yeah, big time. That thing would have never went in. No. So I think you guys got to putt from here, around, like on the other side of this one. Or do you? Yeah, I think you go to that one. Okay. All right, boys. You going first? No, after you. How many balls do we think they should have? Three a pop. Yeah. It's like dealt. Yep. Do you want to come down here, boys? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Three swings. Come on down, guys. Where are we lining up? Over here? You got to be on the other side of that thing. Yeah, exactly. Is Connor going to line me up here? I mean, if you want.

2:20:59I think we do team ball, last ball. Okay. For each guy.

2:21:03Pat McAfee:Okay. where you can, you know, get the squad to line you up. Connor, how do you feel about today here in Los Angeles? I feel pretty good about it. You know, like you said, you kind of look around, keep your head on a swivel, make sure you're seeing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not able to just walk. We need to have an interaction first. But it's been incredible. I mean, the jaunt down here. You want me to hold it for you? I want you to think about it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, okay. I want you to think about it a little bit. How is your putting, you would say? I am terrible at everything in golf. I disagree.

2:21:32I saw you make a lefty. I did hit a lefty. That was cool. How about that? And you play a lot of golf. No. That's all you do. That's all you do. Look at your tan. No, he's lake life. Lake life. I'm going on a boat. Yeah, hitting him off the dock. I'm going on a boat. Must be nice, Herbie. Here's the part I can't figure out. How to square up the club face back on the ball. Sure. So some people, they always slice me. I could hit it here. I could hit it here. I could top it. I could hit it. That's frustrating.

2:22:00Darius Butler:Have you heard of Nuragamo? No. Kawa Golf. He was Shama. Oh, you watch his videos, you're going to know how to square it up. Please. Really? Yeah, it's changed. He's unbelievable. Text me that. Yeah, I will.

2:22:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, because he goes, he teaches baseball players how to hit. Okay. Which is what you want. But my problem was I batted left-handed and I golfed right. Why don't you play golf left-handed? Yeah, you should. Because when I started to play, you couldn't find left-handed. You'll restart, dude. I need to restart. Do you look back and say I was a baseball guy?

2:22:29Darius Butler:Yeah. Yeah. I think we said that, too. Wayne Gretzky had the same problem. That's what he told us. He said there was no lefty clubs. Yeah, there was no clubs. All right. All right, where are we going here? We had black and white televisions and no lefty clubs when this man was a child.

2:22:44Pat McAfee:Now we are at the ESPYs, at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills. If Kirk makes this putt, which it does not appear he will be. Not enough. Hit the ball. I know. Your only advice for Dylan was don't leave it short. That's why I said that, because I leave it short. Hold on now. So what are we doing here? I thought Darius and Kirk agreed whoever doesn't make it, lose or don't get$25 ,000. Whoever makes more. I've been a part of that. I'm getting it for$250 ,000, I think. Yeah, that's awesome. We lined up, boys? I can't wait for that. We're only telling you on the last one. What are the rules this year?

2:23:18I'm going to bring in a blocker. Oh, that'd be great. I want to bring in one blocker.

2:23:23Darius Butler:The other guy. That's a great idea. You should bring up the blow-up clown that's in the shower at Homewood.

2:23:28Pat McAfee:Oh, when he's doing the dancing? You're going to come out in the referee's shirt? If possible. If the other guy doesn't. And I'm back there calling it good. All right, Darius, here's what we'll do. Thank you to you guys for agreeing to do this. Of course. Whichever one of you guys makes more putts will be the one who determines what foundation$25 ,000 will be donated by the other person. Okay. Wow. Boom. Thank you for doing that, Kirk. You're such a good guy. Fourth season of Thursday Night Football. Thank you so much. for agreeing to do that. Thank you. What if no one... Fourth season. Fourth season.

2:24:03What if no one makes one? What do you mean no one's going to make one? Well, D-but just... Oh! Oh, so you're a good putter. Now, that's speed. Good speed. I got speed. Do you putt? Do you play? I got speed down, typically. I get out there. Oh, God. He's a live golf. Why didn't you tell me that? He's a live golf... You walked out here and sunk one lefty. No, yeah, lefty. Herbie, you're always underselling your abilities. I don't like it. I feel like you're probably going to make this putt. He's an athlete. We'll see if somebody's able to take the lid off. About 30 feet. No chance. No chance. Being athlete.

2:24:35Pat McAfee:Hey, you missed by an inch, you missed by a mile. Who cares? Yeah. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Does not matter. Okay. He's going to drop one. It matters in golf, guys. No, not in this particular case. It was a good life fight. He's going to drop one for sure. Okay. That's reverse psychology coming from Kirk Herbstreit. Yup. That's wide left, kid. That's exactly it. That's wide left. Hey, you'll hear that throughout the season. You'll be like, this guy's about to go for 400 yards. 500 yards, baby. Shit, might have 1 ,000 yards today. Oh, my God. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk. Come on, Connor. We'll attempt to bury a putt.

2:25:11Pat McAfee:Jerry Judy looks so cool on the other side of the fountain. Why am I missing right? I don't know. You're in your own head about it. It's an embarrassment. Are you right-eyed dominant? I must be. That's a good question. Definitely are. Oh, shit. All right, here we go. Darius Butler looking good. Why don't you guys all get in on this? Jerry Judy is here, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, he looks good. Unbelievable. Baby, Jerry. Good to see you, Jerry. No putts have been made yet. Jerry, you putt for me. Help me out here. You a good putter? Come on, Jerry. You got it. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, you get to putt for me.

2:25:40Appreciate you, man. Ladies and gentlemen. This counts for my ball club. What's up, man? How you doing? How you doing, man? How are you? How you doing? It's good, brother. Jerry, good to see you, dude. You look so cool. We are live, Jerry. You need to know that. What's up, Jerry? You can make this for me.

2:25:53Pat McAfee:Jerry, hold on one second. Hold on a second. How you doing, man? I'm doing good, man. Yeah, man. I'm just out here living life, man. You just got done with a workout, I do believe? Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir. UCLA got a good workout in. Now we're trying to celebrate all these great people. How do we feel body-wise? We're close to camp. It's right around the corner. Well, I feel amazing, man.

2:26:09Darius Butler:I'm ready to get it going.

2:26:10Pat McAfee:Fresh off your best year, I do believe. Tell me the question for you. Was Aaron at UCLA?

2:26:13Darius Butler:Huh? Rogers? Was Rogers starting at UCLA? No. Oh, no. That's where he plays.

2:26:17Pat McAfee:He's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. You should tell him to go fuck himself.

2:26:19Darius Butler:No, no, no.

2:26:21Pat McAfee:Jerry, thank you for stopping by. Okay, so. This counts for my ball club right here. Hold on. We'll give three putts here. We'll give three putts here. Here we go. $25 ,000 each putt to donation. Charity of your choice. Are you a golfer? No, I'm not. Oh, you got a better chance than me. You figured out. Hey, it's really hot, too. I know you Florida boys can't deal with the heat like this. We appreciate the pressure.

2:26:40Darius Butler:You know we used to this, man. Yeah.

2:26:42Pat McAfee:All right, all right. Here we go. Got a coat on. Okay, that hole. That guy's got a cold. Are you not hot as hell right now? I feel pretty good. Are you shitting me? You Florida boys. I think South Florida boys, you guys have something chemically wrong with the body about the temperature. They're just used to it. In the humidity, so it's just a little heat out here. Yeah, man, we breathe in. Yeah, yeah. He had a hoodie on, 94 degrees. I've never seen anything in my life like that. Drop this, Jerry. Drop this. Jerry, I have faith in you. Now,$25 ,000 each ball. That's the hole you're aiming for.

2:27:10Pat McAfee:Nobody has made it. Okay? A couple hours. You're the one. You're the one. You're the one, Jerry. I was just going to say I got a bad feeling about this. I want to let you know, Jerry Judy, this guy right here just talked a lot of shit about you. He said he's got a bad feeling about this. He's got a bad feeling. Drop this. I said that? Yeah, that guy. I didn't say that. Jerry Judy does not have ears in, so he's not able to hear that. But we will serve him. This is in. It's going to be closer than mine.

2:27:39Get left. There's something about this putter that's pushing it right. Oh, you think so? Okay, good feel, good feel, good feel. We still got two balls. Yes, exactly. Good speed. You got this. You got this. Ladies and gentlemen, Jerry, Judy, fresh off of how many yards? How many yards are we in? I think he had 1 ,300. Yeah, 1 ,200 yards last year. 90 catches. 1 ,229. There it is. Who's counting? Hey, I am. Every yard counts.

2:28:05Pat McAfee:Jerry, Judy, fresh off of 1 ,229 season. Come around. Come around. Come around. Come around. Come around. That might be it. That was close. Okay, okay. Here we go. Here we go. Last one. $25 ,000, Jerry. Come on, Jerry. How do we feel off of off-season workouts and OTAs and everything about team? I feel amazing. You play? We got a great team, you know, great quarterbacks, and I'm ready to see what happens this year. Hell, yeah. We're excited to watch it as well. All right. Jerry Judy, last putt here for$25 ,000. Come on, Jerry. That's a good line right there, Jerry. The team likes it. Now, that guy talked a lot of shit on you before, but he is seemingly on your side.

2:28:45Now I'm here. Yeah. No, no. It was to your face. I'm on Steve Smith.

2:28:49Pat McAfee:Jeez. He just. What? Yeah, I got.

2:28:56Hold on.

2:28:57Pat McAfee:Oh. We appreciate you, man. You going tonight? You going to the ESPYs? Yes, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. How's the fit going to look? Pretty good? It's going to look pretty good. I'm going to look good. Have a great season. Good luck, and thank you for stopping by. Thank you. Appreciate you. Good job out there. See you. That was good. Great to see you. So that's like the thing about the ESPYs. That's the thing about the ESPYs. You just got stars. Golf sucks, dude. You said you didn't play. I knew you didn't have a chance. Thank you, Jerry. See you, dude. Go ahead. You never know who's going to pop out.

2:29:28How many rounds of golf do you play a year? I haven't played golf in two years. Proud of you for that. Thank you, but I played two last week. Oh, okay. Down in Nashville. Nashville. Go ahead.

2:29:42Go ahead. What happened last time we were here? We went to that party at Kirk and Van Aal. Oh, and then he left. And then they left. 45 minutes of traffic. Bro, 10 o 'clock. Yeah. What really said was the guy who had to park and pay and then pay again when we left as a tip. Oh, that was me. I haven't played in two years, and I don't plan on playing. I quit. I quit the sport. Okay. I'd say probably 10 times a year. What? You play a lot? Yeah, when I can. I go out and play by myself. If my wife gives me the yes, that's okay. And what do you shoot ballpark? Like 110? No, no. You're in the 80s, 90s?

2:30:21Like 88 to 90 something. So you're a player. Baseball player. But I'm not shooting 110. I wouldn't be playing 10 times a year if I'm shooting 110.

2:30:31Darius Butler:I haven't played in years. Okay. Proud of you, Tone. I just started playing a couple years ago, So I've played at least 100 rounds. Florida. All day every day. He plays every week. Florida, dude. All total time. Florida. 100 rounds. He's living the dream. Leave 530 straight. You're addicted to it. You can tee off in Indy at 7 o 'clock. Indy, it gets dark like 935 out there. What do you shoot? I'm like 90s, low 90s, high 80s. 100 a year and you're in the 90s? I just started. Just started. Never played before. A little judgment there, Herbie. I thought he'd be. I thought he'd be. No, no, no. He'll be there soon.

2:31:06He'll be there soon. What's his strength, Jerry? What's his strength to your game? I'll say putting. I can see that. Yeah. Probably irons. Balls are gone. Okay. I can work on my short game. That's where I'm losing strokes. 100 rounds. He'll leave Thunderdome and go straight to course. In Indy, it stays light outside until 10 p.m. Yeah, you can tee off at 6 and play 18. Do you live in Indy? Back at 4. Tony, you think you can make this? I thought you were in South Florida. All right, Tom. Like full time.

2:31:35Pat McAfee:He's in Indy half the day. Half the day. Yeah. He's in Indy like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We're lucky for that. You like Indy? Thanks for following the show, Kirk. Yeah, Kirk, he's on the show. I know he's on the show. I didn't know he lived there. No, he flies back to Florida. No, he flies every fucking day. What do you – I just thought he had an hotel. He's a big part of our community. I know he is. He's a Pacer fan. He was Don Don at a parade. No, he's a South Florida fan. He's a big fan. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever's good, Finn. He can't claim the Pacers. Okay, he can. He did. All right, Kirk, thank you, buddy.

2:32:04Oh, yeah, thank you. You should take the last putt. Yes, he should. No, no, no. I'm going to follow you. Okay, Kirk, we'll take the last putt. All right, here we go. You want one more putt? Yeah, here you go, baby. Here you go. Thank you. All right, you have a ball? Yes, sir. All right, one more putt. Tone, this will be your first putt. Let's do this one for the Steelers. Real quick. Aaron Rodgers. Did you ever win the Super Bowl this year? I wouldn't go that far, no. What? I'm a Bengals fan in the AFC North. Why don't you guys pay Trey Hendrickson? Why don't you guys pay T.J. Watt? They will.

2:32:32Why don't you pay your first-round draft pick? No doubt. How about the peanut gallery back in Indy chirping at him? No, they're not Indy. How about Big Gump? Gump's in a room. Oh, is he? Where is Gump?

2:32:43Darius Butler:He's in the tree. He's out there. Gumpy. Yep, there he is. You see him? Come on, Gump. You see him out there, Kirk? He's got to ask the card questions, Kirk.

2:32:51Pat McAfee:Okay, here we go. So, Tone, for a$25 ,000 donation here at the program's Putt-Putt Invitational, live from the ESPYs. It's been a beautiful day. Tone digs first putt for charity, and he pulls it. That's right. See, I can follow that with some confidence. D-butt, you're going last. Okay. I like that. I'm going to let Darius win it.

2:33:11Darius Butler:Your wire. Yeah. I think it might be unmakeable. Why don't you putt it left-handed, Kirk? I should. I made the first one left-handed. Clearly not worth a shit right-handed. $25 ,000, and he puts it off the green for a fifth straight time. You cannot end on that one. That was embarrassing. That's your high school. Dee, get over here and putt. Dee, that's your boy, Dee.

2:33:30Pat McAfee:All right, Darius J. Butler,$25 ,000 putt to a charity of his choosing, if he's able to make this. That's going in. Maybe a little sanctity of our show. And he pulled it as well. Jesus.

2:33:40Darius Butler:Why don't you – Pat, you take one. All right, I will. Where is it?

2:33:45Pat McAfee:You got a ball? Thank you, Fosso. Thanks, Fosso. You want to go last? I got close to the pin. I got to try one time here. Grab the mic. Watch. Let the expert go here. Hold on. Watch this putter here. You're going to like the way this looks. That's pretty good. Excellent speed. That's good putt. Excellent speed. Great line putt. There's a ridge.

2:34:08Darius Butler:There's a little thing right here. That's a good putt. It really messed you up. It's a hockey. Oh. It's a hockey. You see? Yeah. There you go. You get the rotation? Yeah, I got the, thank you, T-Bot. Yes, sir. Hip rotation.

2:34:24Like Dak.

2:34:32Oh. It's tracking. It's tracking.

2:34:37My god. It wanted to go in. All right. Dude. So close. You going to walk off on that one? I think that was a dub. That count. That should count. All right. That's an excellent live putt. Same, Mickey Mouse. To be clear, yeah. That was in. I found my putter.

2:34:53Darius Butler:Yes, you did. Both of those were good. Thank you. That's great news. That has really been the weak point in my game. I can hit it, I can get it, and then I'll four it. Oh. And then all of a sudden, your rounds of golf are terrible. Done. Yeah. Yeah.

2:35:05Pat McAfee:So that's fun that I found that. Shout out to the lab. And shout out to Dylan, the only one who made the putt. Yeah, he did. Legend. Yep. What a day here at the ESPN. Shout out to the whole crew that set this entire thing up. Great setup out here. It is. Shout out to Jibman, Jibman, Jibman, man on the jib. Brian, obviously, great hat. Yeah, great hat. Locking it over there. I needed it about halfway through the program. Yeah. The sun that came out. Shout out to everybody that's going to watch the ESPYs this evening. Should be a fantastic show. And shout out to Jelly Roll, hosting Jimmy Kimmel Live after the ESPYs.

2:35:34Oh, okay. I didn't know that. That's great. What do you know, Kirk? Yeah. College ball. True. College. Football. All right. Batsby. Reds. Golden Retrievers. Yeah. You know Golden Retrievers. I do know Golden Retrievers. In and out. You can get these dogs to do whatever. Raising sweet boys. You know those movies, too. Yeah. Movies. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You doubled down on Francesa's Superman review. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Did you watch that? I haven't seen it yet, no. Not the movie, Francesa's? Yeah, it was unbelievable. It was unmitigated garbage. Spot on. So you agree it's unmitigated garbage? It's terrible.

2:36:08You caught up in the fight game? A lot of people were telling you that you were wrong in your assessment of that. Oh, were they? Yeah, I think it got pretty loud. I think you probably just muted that one. I've trained myself not to go down there. Yeah, you can mute it, actually. Yeah. And you should. Just as a person that lives in those worlds. Yeah. Do you go down there? No, you go ahead and send one, and then you can kind of get a taste of what's coming in. See, I don't get a taste. Just mute it. I don't want to taste it. Just send it and close it. Dude, it's heavy. Yeah, I get some real mean stuff.

2:36:34No, you tend to live in there. Have to.

2:36:37Pat McAfee:I feel like I have to hear stuff. I have to know what's going on. So, like, everybody, they're always like, you got to stay off of there. But I don't think that's a great representation of how people, the real people feel about you. But you've got to know that that exists out there. I think for everything, you have to know what the other side is, which is why I enjoy the Internet, because I like to hear what everybody's argument is, so at least have a little bit better understanding why people are coming from where they're coming from. And every once in a while where you're trying to learn that, you're going to learn some things about yourself, and you're like, holy shit, this guy should run face first in traffic.

2:37:06And that's a little rude. Yeah. But then there's some wordsmiths out there that really make me laugh with it. I'm like, all right, I need to fucking stop reading this. and I get out of the way. But I think when I retire from this, because I think with The Daily Show, it is a responsibility of me to know a little bit about everything so that if anything comes up, I have to know about it. You've got to be ready. Yeah, I think so, personally. Like, for instance, when a press conference pops up, you know, and you're in the middle of it, it's like. How about that? That's what I'm saying. Like, I think I have to know at least a little bit.

2:37:32Mask on asking the question? Yeah, that's why we couldn't hear it. Of course. And I don't think anybody knows. I wish you would have just interrupted and just said, we don't have time for this. That's what I would have done. I've reached that point in my career. We've had enough of that bullshit. All right, let's get back to it. That's what I would have done. All right, but they have – now, on that note, because you don't scroll through. I do scroll through. They are very passionate. It's like, all right, like I – okay, let's enjoy this. Did you screw that up? No. That – we all thought you did great.

2:38:06I thought I did. I would have been much more – I know, yeah. A lot of people said that. But for me, I legitimately couldn't understand. If you were to see her, you'd be like, she's very committed to this. Like, now is not the time to have a full – and I'm not the right person to have that.

2:38:21Pat McAfee:But also, like, respect for what you're saying. This is a home run derby press conference. We don't have any answers up here. And I think the research that has been done post that question and what everybody said, I think there's a lot of things I could have said, I guess, if I would have been a little bit more to know. But with that being said, it's like we move on. I was representing the MLB. Yeah. That crossed my mind while I was standing at the podium. I'm like, holy shit. I'm representing the NFL. Dave Roberts and who? Booney. Booney. Yeah. Paul Skeens. Paul Skeens. I think it was Paul Skeens that I saw.

2:38:53Yeah. The shot that I saw was Skeens and Roberts. Yeah. And Skeens was kind of like. Well, Skeens hates everything that that was. Yes. Sit up on a podium on a stage. We're going to talk about how good you are. Talk. How good you are. Open questions. microphone like skeins doesn't want any of that like i think he's like people are like well he's getting gq he's taking photos like taking photos is vastly different than sitting there having to explain your thoughts and why you think you're this or why you do this it's like these guys all just want to kind of blend in that's what it feels like with the baseball players how big is uh paul skeins huge yeah six six so is that uh yeah miserowski miserowski that kid with five starts

2:39:35Pat McAfee:Five years in this thing now. He got drafted out of JUCO, went through the entire minor league system, has five starts. He gets into the all-star game. A lot of people pissed off. We met him. He knew that people were pissed off. And he was like, I'm going to throw gas. He's so big. Yeah. And lanky. The guy that's big is Raleigh. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, dumper. You're talking about the big old booty on that guy. I don't follow the American League at all. I'm a National League guy. I really don't know anything about him. I'm going to look forward to watching Seattle now. That guy. Well, how about his – think about his dad throwing to his youngest boy.

2:40:07And his kid is behind – That's cool. That was amazing. That has to feel cool. And by the way, the 15-year-old, you might want to buy his stock in that guy. Yeah, he's going to – yeah, we all kind of moved this way.

2:40:17Pat McAfee:I think it's about time for us to get out of here. All right. Nobody made a putt except for Dylan. True. We appreciate it. Yep. And – Good. Now you're blocking. I mean, you've got – I'm just going to keep – You've got to putt over – If we stayed on for two more hours, I would just keep drifting. Oh, yeah. Into the shade. Want to get that one off the way? All right. We're out of here. Great job, guys. I think we're off tomorrow. We apologize. I think we're off Friday. We'll be back Monday. Travel restrictions. That's the summer. You guys should do that more often. Yeah, your summer starts in February, doesn't it, Kirk?

2:40:50It does. January 21. Earn that. You've earned that. He does earn that. He does a drag. You've earned that. Exactly.

2:40:56Pat McAfee:You've earned that. Agreed. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Let's enjoy the Espy's tonight. Let's enjoy Jelly Roll. and then have the greatest weekend of all time. Team on me. Herbie, anything? No. Go team. Hell yeah. Well said. Hell yeah. Yeah. All the teams. Especially tonight. All the athletes. All the athletes. Celebrate. We'll see you guys later. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. This episode is brought to you by the Hulu original series, Chad Powers, starring Glenn Powell. This season, the walls are closing in on Chad's biggest secret.

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