In short
The hosts recap the 2025 Open Championship, focusing on Scottie Scheffler’s dominance and what makes him “inevitable” on Sunday. They also discuss major sports business and labor issues, especially WNBA collective bargaining/pay negotiations (“pay us what you owe us”), using reported revenue/loss figures and suite pricing as examples. The episode then pivots to NFL contract news and training camp updates: TJ Watt’s new Steelers deal, George Karlaftis’ Chiefs extension, and the Cowboys’ ongoing Micah Parsons contract situation. They also cover Lions injury/roster setbacks (Levi Onwuzurike ACL, plus other injuries/retirements/coordinator losses) and finish with Washington Commanders stadium/name politics after Vaughn Miller signs.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Adam Schefter: ESPN NFL insider; former/ongoing NFL reporting career; appears at a Michigan football fundraiser golf event.
- J.J. Watt: Former NFL defensive star (Houston Texans/Broader NFL fame); appears as a guest voice in the episode.
- Darius Butler: Former NFL cornerback; provides football analysis commentary.
- AJ Hawk: Former NFL linebacker (Green Bay Packers); provides football analysis commentary.
Key claims
- Scheffler is portrayed as the clear best player in golf right now, with a work ethic and improved putting (including inside-10-foot performance) that removes his main weakness.
- WNBA pay negotiations are framed as urgent despite alleged operating losses; the hosts argue there may be room to raise player pay toward six figures.
- Steelers’ TJ Watt deal is described as a major, aggressive offseason move; the contract details are highlighted as unusually aligned (108 sacks and 108 million guaranteed).
- Cowboys are “slow-playing” Micah Parsons’ extension; once done, it’s expected to be the richest non-QB deal.
- Lions face a “list” of injuries and coaching turnover that could impact performance, though hosts say they still have faith in Dan Campbell and Jared Goff.
Notable examples
- Scottie’s Sunday run: first-hole aggression, birdie bounce-back on 12, and a closing 18th tap-in; peers (Jordan Spieth) praising his approach.
- TJ Watt: 41 million per year, 123 million total, 108 million guaranteed; mandatory minicamp holdout and $107k fines mentioned.
- Lions: Aidan Hutchinson returning from leg surgery; Malcolm Rodriguez ACL; Frank Ragnall retirement; coordinator departures; Levi Onwuzurike out for the year.
- Washington: Commanders name/stadium controversy tied to political involvement; Vaughn Miller signing.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWNBA All-Star Weekend and Pay Discrepancies
0:45 to 3:30
Discussion about WNBA All-Star Weekend, player salaries, and league financials.
“we sent an invite to Kathy Engelbert the commissioner of the WNBA to come on on this particular day obviously schedule is crazy look for us to chit chat with her here in a while because I am trying to figure it all out.”
Scottie Scheffler's Dominance at The Open
3:30 to 6:30
Analyzing Scottie Scheffler's performance and impact in The Open Championship.
“And there's no reason for anybody, hey, anybody, especially after the stud buds basically brought the whole world together.”
Balancing Life and Golf: Insights from Scheffler
6:30 to 10:00
Exploring Scheffler's perspective on success, family, and the pressures of golf.
“There is still a chance that that could happen on any swing.”
Comparing Scheffler to Golf Legends
10:00 to 14:01
Discussion on Scheffler's unique style and comparisons to golfing greats.
“He's literally putting tour on his back.”
Scottie Scheffler's Dominance in Golf
14:01 to 16:13
Learn about Scottie Scheffler's unique golfing style and dominance in tournaments.
“He had that double bogey a little bit later.”
NFL Training Camps Kick Off
16:14 to 16:41
Get an update on NFL teams reporting to training camps and upcoming games.
“Tell them we don't have time to break it all down.”
Adam Schefter's Insights on NFL Deals
16:49 to 19:09
Schefter discusses Jimmy Sexton's missed opportunity with Scotty Scheffler and the significance of networking.
“I'm Adam Schefter today, and I will say you were talking about Scotty Schefter before.”
T.J. Watt's Contract Negotiations
19:10 to 21:35
Insights on T.J. Watt's contract and the dynamics between players and teams.
“maybe this is uglier than we thought beforehand.”
Steelers' Aggressive Offseason Moves
21:36 to 22:41
Discussion on the Steelers' uncharacteristically aggressive offseason strategies.
“They trade away Minka Fitzpatrick, and then they sign T.J.”
George Karlaftis and Pass Rusher Trends
22:42 to 24:28
Adam Schefter covers George Karlaftis' contract and the evolving landscape for pass rushers in the NFL.
“Speak about another deal, especially for a pass rusher.”
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Micah Parsons' Contract Situation
24:29 to 26:20
Schefter discusses Micah Parsons' contract status and the Cowboys' slow negotiations.
“And I do think that when they get a deal done with him, it's going to make him the richest defensive player in NFL history.”
Levi Ozurike's Injury Update
26:21 to 28:00
Discussion on Levi Ozurike's ACL injury and its implications for the Lions.
“The Barca just signed for$42 million a year on a four-year deal.”
Injury Updates and Team Challenges
28:00 to 29:00
Discussion on player injuries affecting the Lions' season and team dynamics.
“or what the situation was, but obviously it was a significant injury that's not going to allow him to play this season.”
Coaching Changes and Team Prospects
29:00 to 30:20
Analysis of coaching staff changes and their potential impact on the Lions.
“And for the Lions, that's only one thing that's kind of happening.”
Golfing and Player Updates
30:20 to 31:00
Casual conversation about golf and player performance updates.
“And they have a top 10 quarterback just like Detroit does.”
Kirk Herbstreet's Absence
31:00 to 32:20
Funny anecdotes about Kirk Herbstreet missing an event for a dog food commercial.
“And so he's blaming it on being out of the country.”
Dog Conversations and Commercials
32:20 to 34:20
Light-hearted discussion about dogs and the potential for pet-related commercials.
“Now, last I checked, I've got four dogs.”
Chase Herbstreet's Scholarship to Michigan
34:20 to 37:00
Exploring the dynamics of Chase Herbstreet's football scholarship and family ties.
“I think there's a lot of people in that course will probably get you a deal.”
Washington Commanders' Name and Stadium Issues
37:00 to 39:40
Discussion about the Washington Commanders' branding and stadium concerns.
“You're starting to dance a little bit too much.”
Opinions on Commanders and Future Prospects
39:40 to 42:00
Addressing fan loyalty and the potential renaming of the Commanders amid stadium challenges.
“Deep touchdown that went in the fourth quarter.”
Stadium Concerns and Politics
42:00 to 43:30
Discussion on the issues surrounding a stadium and its impact on the league.
“Now it's in my beer because this stadium stinks.”
NIL and Its Implications
43:30 to 45:40
Exploration of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and its challenges in sports.
“Well, that's actually a Native American society, blah, blah, blah.”
The Role of Committees in Sports
45:40 to 47:20
Analysis of the committee's function in regulating NIL deals and their effectiveness.
“How can you ever turn any of those down?”
Negotiation and Fair Market Value
47:20 to 48:40
Discussion on how fair market values are determined in negotiations.
“Only some schools are really going to be able to do it.”
Challenges with NIL Regulations
48:40 to 50:40
Concerns regarding the practicality and fairness of NIL regulations.
“all the brands basically that they're working with, we've kind of worked with and know all the people.”
Personal Anecdotes and Early Business Ventures
50:40 to 53:10
Pat shares humorous stories about his childhood business endeavors.
“For example, a collective holding an event or selling merchandise with the primary purpose of raising funds to pay athletes rather than offering goods or services to the public will be rejected.”
Reflection on Youth Entrepreneurship
53:10 to 56:01
Reflections on lessons learned from early entrepreneurship experiences.
“Well, he was making sure you weren't smoking them.”
Grape Juice Nostalgia
56:01 to 56:49
The hosts reminisce about grape juice and childhood experiences.
“I don't think I've had a grape juice thing.”
Sports and Recovery
58:05 to 58:16
Discussion on Tatum's recovery and respect for athletes undergoing rehab.
“The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.”
Upcoming Guest: Tyrese Halliburton
58:17 to 59:18
The hosts discuss Tyrese Halliburton's recovery and upcoming appearance.
“You're still the man, even though you're recovering with your Achilles tear.”
Darius Butler's Recovery Journey
59:19 to 1:00:13
Insights into Darius Butler's recovery from an Achilles injury.
“So his entire rehab and recovery is all happening here in Indianapolis.”
WNBA Skills Contest Experience
1:00:14 to 1:01:40
Recap of the WNBA skills contest and notable performances.
“He is starting to look like, which was my exact, first thing I said to him.”
Event Timing and Family Experience
1:01:41 to 1:02:34
Reflection on the timing of events and how it affects attendees.
WNBA Team Dynamics and Media Coverage
1:02:35 to 1:05:02
Discussion on team dynamics and media coverage of the WNBA.
“because you're thinking, I got at least hour 20 left for this thing.”
Introducing A.J. Hawk
1:05:03 to 1:05:42
Introduction of A.J. Hawk and his connection to recent events.
“But a lot of people were saying, like, hey.”
Diplo's Reception and Influence
1:05:43 to 1:07:22
Discussion on Diplo's performance and audience reception.
“Yeah, Dipwo was not as well received as I thought he might be in that situation, huh?”
WNBA Financial Challenges and Future
1:07:23 to 1:10:01
Analysis of the WNBA's financial issues and athlete compensation.
“AJ, my take on it all was they're already losing$40 million.”
NFLPA Challenges and Player Perspectives
1:10:01 to 1:17:01
A discussion on the current issues within the NFL Players Association and how players perceive the organization.
“Now, I could see how somebody would want to do that, especially whenever you just have an actual war chest of money.”
JJ Watt Joins the Conversation
1:17:01 to 1:23:30
JJ Watt shares insights about his breakfast and discusses the state of the NFLPA alongside Pat and the crew.
“You don't need to turn in a$700 receipt for a car ride, though.”
Discussing New NFL Jerseys
1:24:00 to 1:25:16
The hosts discuss their opinions on new NFL jerseys and a player's physique.
“It's a very rare thing in today's NFL, so it's really special.”
Planning the McAfee Boys European Tour
1:25:16 to 1:26:08
The hosts plan a European tour, discussing cities and experiences.
“We'll do Bartholona, and we'll do Burnley, and then we'll swing through the Berg, and then back home.”
Soccer Team Ownership Insights
1:26:08 to 1:27:18
The hosts delve into ownership of soccer teams and the business aspects behind it.
“Hey, I don't know what let's go is in Spanish.”
JJ Watt's Soccer Team Ventures
1:27:18 to 1:28:48
Discussion on JJ Watt's investment in soccer teams and the implications.
“We'll get some kits over to the boys soon.”
Analyzing Scotty Scheffler's Success
1:28:48 to 1:30:16
The hosts evaluate Scotty Scheffler's recent tournament performances and mindset.
“We need his ass over there for the players.”
Scotty Scheffler's Philosophy on Winning
1:30:16 to 1:38:00
Discussion on Scotty Scheffler's views about success and personal fulfillment in golf.
“I don't get it They could get in Champions League They could If they make it to the very top they could face each other Top 4 in each league, right?”
The Mental Game of Golf Success
1:38:00 to 1:41:58
Explore the insights of Scotty Scheffler on achieving greatness and the realities behind it.
“And it's, I mean, like I said, it's literally one of the most fun things that I can do in my entire life.”
Pressure and Expectations in Golf
1:41:58 to 1:46:44
Discuss the immense expectations placed on top golfers and their impacts on performance.
“He was that guy kind of towards the end of his career after he was done.”
Scotty Scheffler's Journey to the Open
1:46:44 to 1:47:30
Reflect on Scotty Scheffler's journey and potential future in major golf championships.
“where if you see him playing, there's an immediate expectation like, oh, he's going to win.”
Highlights from the NFL Flag Championship
1:48:12 to 1:52:00
Recap some exciting moments and plays from the recent NFL flag championship.
“Now there was another highlight right down the sideline.”
The Evolution of Young Athletes
1:52:00 to 1:53:10
Discussion on the maturity and skill of young athletes today compared to previous generations.
“Not even fair to think this kid's going to be playing against high school kids here in a couple weeks.”
The Rise of Girls' Flag Football
1:53:10 to 1:54:10
Exploration of the growing popularity of girls' flag football and its impact on sports culture.
“They had a girls flag tournament as well.”
Positive Changes in Youth Sports
1:54:10 to 1:54:40
Discussion about the benefits of flag football and its potential for collegiate scholarships.
“It's in the Olympics already, but you're talking about that can really.”
Golfing Adventures and Personal Growth
1:54:40 to 1:56:00
Hosts share personal experiences and reflections on their recent golfing outings.
“I played nine holes, I played 13 holes, and I played 18 holes.”
Learning from Golfing Techniques
1:56:00 to 1:57:52
Insights on improving golf techniques and the influence of watching professional players.
“Whole six, those blisters really started.”
Playing at Riviera Golf Course
1:57:52 to 1:59:30
Hosts recount their experience playing at Riviera Golf Course and interactions with fellow golfers.
“But with that being said, he does have a hammer.”
Observations on Golfing Skills
1:59:30 to 2:01:40
Discussion on the golfing skills of a well-known player and the casual atmosphere of the game.
“Okay, so we played someplace you're not supposed to.”
The Great Ketchup Debate
2:01:40 to 2:04:40
Explores differing opinions on the appropriateness of ketchup on hot dogs and other foods.
“And I thought about it while he does all these meetings, I assume, out there.”
Breakfast Food Controversies
2:04:40 to 2:06:00
Hosts discuss their preferences for ketchup and other condiments on breakfast foods.
“With that being said, shout out to Chicago people.”
Hot Sauce and Food Preferences
2:06:00 to 2:11:05
The hosts discuss their favorite food pairings and condiment choices.
“Kachot sauce on everything that's available, including the dino nugs that my daughter loves.”
The Great Meatloaf Debate
2:11:05 to 2:13:44
A humorous debate about meatloaf, including its ingredients and appeal.
“My mom didn't start cooking until recently.”
Dining with John Halliburton
2:13:44 to 2:15:48
The hosts share stories about dining with Tyrese Halliburton's dad and his quirky food choices.
“and i sat right next to john halliburton and i laughed for two hours straight i mean i i yeah Yeah, you can definitely.”
Tyrese Halliburton's All-Star Experience
2:15:48 to 2:20:00
Discussion on Tyrese Halliburton's All-Star game and his interactions with fans.
“he's the man Tyrese will be in here tomorrow hopefully John will stop Mr.”
MLB All-Star Experience and Fan Interactions
2:20:00 to 2:24:44
The hosts share stories about their experiences as MLB All-Stars and how they engaged with young fans.
“I just texted it to you, Zito, so you can pull this up.”
Baseball Game Strategies and Gimmicks
2:24:44 to 2:27:24
The discussion revolves around proposed changes to baseball's extra innings rules and the potential for entertaining gimmicks.
“You guys already got the ghost man on second.”
Presidential Influence on NFL Team Names
2:27:24 to 2:32:56
The hosts discuss the implications of a president commenting on NFL team naming and deal-making in sports.
“Speaking of retired, Washington football team name was retired.”
Nostalgic Drinks and Party Culture
2:32:56 to 2:34:00
The conversation shifts to reminiscing about popular alcoholic drinks and the party culture of past generations.
“We used to get pictures of strong islands.”
Pittsburgh Drink Culture and Memories
2:34:00 to 2:35:26
The hosts reminisce about their favorite drinks and experiences in Pittsburgh.
“There's Mario Shotwheel, dying here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.”
Pittsburgh Steelers Throwback Uniforms Discussion
2:35:26 to 2:36:58
A debate on the new throwback uniforms of the Pittsburgh Steelers and their historical significance.
“My immediate thought upon seeing them I didn't like them.”
Evolution of NFL Helmets
2:36:58 to 2:39:13
Discussing the transformation and comfort of NFL helmets over the years.
“Somebody was talking about the new helmet.”
Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl Aspirations
2:39:13 to 2:42:45
The hosts evaluate the Steelers' chances of making it to the AFC championship this year.
“Because I didn't even know it was an option.”
Second Round Picks and Contract Guarantees
2:42:45 to 2:45:04
Discussion on the signing of second-round picks and the implications of contract guarantees.
“So they were all fully guaranteed, 33 to 40.”
The Future of Guaranteed Contracts in NFL
2:45:04 to 2:46:04
Exploring the possibility of fully guaranteed contracts in football and its effects on the game.
“But like basically everybody else that makes money for the NFL was there.”
Comedy and the ESPYs
2:46:04 to 2:48:00
Reflections on Shane Gillis' performance at the ESPYs and the fine line in comedy.
“I mean, I'm not concerned with you there.”
Analyzing Shane Gillis' Comedy at the ESPYs
2:48:00 to 2:50:32
The hosts discuss the reception of Shane Gillis' performance during the ESPYs, including audience reactions.
“I saw somebody say nobody was laughing in a theater.”
Gumpy's Escapade Before the Show
2:50:32 to 2:53:32
The hosts recount Gumpy's chaotic experience trying to reach the theater, including bathroom mishaps and security challenges.
“Monologue, but that wasn't The case, yeah there was some people popping And just like for Shane, there was some There was certainly some Oh, yeah, it was definitely even for me.”
Diana Taurasi's Impact and the Awards
2:53:32 to 2:57:09
Discussion about Diana Taurasi's presence, her speech, and the significance of her recognition at the awards.
“I forgot all about the beer and wine bullshit.”
Recapping the ESPYs Highlights
2:57:09 to 3:00:09
The hosts share memorable moments from the ESPYs, including Busta Rhymes' performance and Ty's standing ovation.
“She's like, hey, we don't need to be taking anything down.”
Kirk Herbstreet and Football Season Anticipation
3:00:44 to 3:02:00
The hosts discuss Kirk Herbstreet's insights and their excitement for the upcoming football season.
“You can get chicken in a case of Diaz and what?”
Excitement for Upcoming Football Events
3:02:00 to 3:04:06
The hosts share their enthusiasm for the upcoming football season and events.
“because regardless of the conversation, you could be just shooting the shit 30, 45.”
Discussion on Morgan Wallen's Concert
3:04:06 to 3:05:18
The hosts discuss Morgan Wallen's recent concert and crowd reactions.
“We can't wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh, more specifically La Trobe.”
Morgan Wallen's Success and Impact
3:05:18 to 3:06:02
Highlights of Morgan Wallen's impressive album sales and fan engagement.
“They were letting the liquor talk, unfortunately.”
Wrap-up and Positive Messages
3:07:02 to 3:08:18
The hosts conclude the show with shoutouts and encouraging messages.
“That stinks because – where's he at next?”
Wrap-up and Positive Messages
3:08:24 to 3:08:40
The hosts conclude the show with shoutouts and encouraging messages.
“And with his future on the field hanging in the balance, he'll have to win back the one coach who wants nothing to do with him.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this overreaction Monday, July 21st, 2025, this program begins right now. Sports are happening all around us and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. Obviously, sports had a massive weekend and we'll be chit-chatting about it all. Huge contracts handed out in the NFL. Congrats to everybody getting paid. the WNBA All-Star Weekend happened here in Indianapolis they're calling it Indiami they're saying it was Miami in Indianapolis I'll tell you what I saw a lot of videos looks like everybody's having a great time looks like everybody's having a blast now there's a big statement coming out of the WNBA obviously with them saying pay us what you owe us shirts there's different takes on all different sides we sent an invite to Kathy Engelbert the commissioner of the WNBA to come on on this particular day obviously schedule is crazy look for us to chit chat with her here in a while because I am trying to figure it all out.
0:57Pat McAfee:I am trying to figure it all out because whenever we found out what the WNBA pays their players through Caitlin Clark, she's making like 70 grand or something. They're charging 70 ,000 bucks for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing in. Now, I know the league's been around for 20 years. I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here. I know they're saying like$40 million in losses potential. Now,$200 million in revenue is the total. $40 million in losses. Just quick, you know, business everybody understands is P &L, you know, profits and losses,$200 million in revenue, that's your gross, then your net revenue is what you're making out of that, right?
1:29Pat McAfee:Every business has expenses, every business has costs. For the WNBA, that's a lot, obviously. You got like 140 players or something like that, depending upon the, at the time, how many are hired, how many are employed, the buildings, everything else like that. They are then from that$200 million gross revenue, allegedly back here at$40 million in the red as a loss, allegedly. We don't know what's real and what isn't real, but allegedly everybody has said they'd never turn a profit. So the immediate reaction is whenever you say pay us what you owe us it's like you're not making any money so what do we owe you owe us money this is actually one of those things but if we're already losing 40 million could you not just bump them up to at least six figures like 70 000 as a paycheck is a very that's an embarrassment yeah especially for like caitlin clarker all these people as a professional sports now with that being said my dad his job if he would have got paid 70 000 a year growing up would have been incredibly pumped about that.
2:19Pat McAfee:But with how long WNBA's been around, to say the$40 million loss is the reason why you can't give them money that should be pretty easy to make happen is just why? Because if you just add 30 grand to each one of them, get that up over$100 ,000, it's another like$4.6 million. Say you're$44.6 million in this way. There has to be$4 million you can find somewhere in here that you can give up to give the players at least a little bit more money because I don't think the$70 ,000 thing is right. But I think that negotiation is going to be tough. I think it's going to be a very tough negotiation. Now, it seems like the players, though, all in on their side of it.
2:50Pat McAfee:And then if you listen to everybody else talk, it's like, hey, business. This is how business works. You make money, you get money. That's kind of how it goes. But it's like if you're operating at a$40 million loss of a$200 million, there's a lot of things going wrong. We could sneak in an extra$30 ,000 per player for it to get up to$100 ,000. Hopefully, that'll be a conversation. Hopefully, there'll be incentive-based for it to go forward. But that was the big story out of the weekend. I don't love that that's the big story out of the weekend because I thought it was a great weekend here in Indianapolis.
3:14Pat McAfee:Every city, every place downtown was rented out. There was massive events everywhere. Nike took over an entire basic block of Indianapolis and built it up. It was awesome. We had a great weekend here, even though, you know, collective bargaining is going to be the conversation going forward. And there's no reason for anybody, hey, anybody, especially after the stud buds basically brought the whole world together. That's right. Shout out to the stud buds. They were just streaming their entire time here in Indianapolis. You're welcome back at the time you want. They're getting after it, too.
3:42Darius Butler:Oh, yeah.
3:42Pat McAfee:I mean, they were having a good – Yeah. Stud Buds were a great time. Stud Buds football. That is Stud Buds football. That is kind of what we realized this weekend. So shout out to the WNBA coming through our city. We hope you enjoyed it. And shout out to Scottie Scheffler. Thank you, Scottie. Scottie Scheffler, as I was, you know, watching what he was doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter running around, so you catch your back. It's great backdrop. Great, great. A little earlier in the day, you know, because they're in Ireland, so obviously they're six hours, seven hours ahead. So in the morning you get a chance to watch it as opposed to just the afternoon.
4:12Pat McAfee:So there's some pros and some cons. Long day afterwards with nothing afterwards. So that is certainly a give and take that we had there. But watching this, dude, it's like, what words do you use to describe him? I guess inevitable. I guess that is a word that you could describe him as going into any tournament. It's just like, Scotty Scheffler's probably going to win this thing. I even put out a tweet that's like, every three weeks, I get a chance to see his family. Little Bennett, this boy's growing so quick. Last time I seen this guy, you know, was at his previous win, which was just a few weeks ago.
4:36Pat McAfee:And then previous wins a couple weeks before that. We're keeping up with him every couple weeks here. It's like I'm following him on Facebook. It's like I'm catching up with their family portraits, basically, as they're going. Beautiful family. Happy family. Little boy almost getting up that hill to get to the green. Fantastic. But all in all, the only word you can really say about Scottie Scheffler is obviously. It's like, hey, he has a four-stroke lead. He's going to go right for it. There's going to be a lot of danger in between. It doesn't have to do it. He can play safe. Well, he's going to get it to six feet, actually.
5:05Pat McAfee:Obviously, that is what Scottie Scheffler is going to do. Hey, for the 10th consecutive time, he's had a lead going into Sunday. four strokes or more and now is the first hole is he gonna be nervous is gonna come out a little gun shy uh-uh he's gonna go ahead and put it to tap in length on the first hole let the rest of the field know like hey this sunday is exactly how every other day is gonna go then we go obviously what a stroke middle of the fairway what's that mean oh we mashed his drive to a perfect location hangs that thing up high right what's the uh what's the topography gonna do for you oh it's gonna put it right next to the hole it's like anytime he needs a shot he shows up and does it and i i hate to like kind of harp on this because it does feel like it steals the chatter a little bit people are like scotty's not entertaining enough to be a top man a leading man does he have the personality of the guys in the past you know tiger we had the red shirt on sunday we had the fist bump we had the intensity we had the entire thing what do we have a scotty what do we have a scotty he's just like every shot's a good one somehow yeah every single shot somehow is being great and he's starting to show a little bit more emotion he's starting to introduce himself to the world a little bit more he's given some deep perspective takes about life and golf and his deal as a professional athlete and how he views it over the last few days and i want to let scotty sheffler know we love you buddy you're great for sports and people watching you do your thing at the highest level in the biggest moments with the most amount of pressure and you're not cracking at all you staring down the biggest moment in the hardest moment because in golf if you're off by that much.
6:32Pat McAfee:I mean, it's over. He could still score a nine on a hole. There is still a chance that that could happen on any swing. He said, can't wait to get to Memphis. Now everybody's even par yet again. Here he is on 12 for a birdie. You know, 11 was a tough hole everybody's talking about. 12, you bounce back, get a birdie here, no problem. How you doing? Keep it moving. Then he wraps it up on 18 with like a three-foot tap in as the guy that he's playing alongside basically said he was a joy to play with. The guy's happy. He doesn't seemingly have any like bad traits about him at all the way he views life is spectacular think there's a chance he might start smoking a little weed sure which i'm obviously i am a huge proponent of if not he's been at the top of the mountain long enough now he's been able to look around and be like hey all i wanted to do was get here this is all i wanted to do is become the best i could possibly become be the best in the world get to the top of this mountain he gets to the top of the mountain he looks around this is it this is what i committed my entire life to he told me he gave an answer yesterday afterwards it was like when i was like four or five years old i used to wear pants to golf course because i saw professional golfers do it all i've ever wanted to do is become a professional golfer my entire life i've tried to become a professional golfer and then you get here and you realize that the only good time is right after you win and then it's like a two to three minute feeling and then it's like okay gotta get home back to america gotta get to my family got memphis on tuesday everybody's even par this is kind of the same notion that everybody that gets to the top of their respective fields kind of starts the field.
7:58Pat McAfee:It's either your win is a relief and a loss is total devastation. He's at that point now in a sport that it's not supposed to have that type of expectations where if he's in a tournament, he's supposed to win it. And if he doesn't win it, it's like, what happened? And if he does win it, it's like, well, he's supposed to win it. Let's see what happens next. I hope there's a chance for Scottie to continue to be able to play as well as he's playing while viewing the world this way. And I hope he continues to balance life and golf at the same time because I think he's doing it better than any megastar has ever done it, any phenom has ever done it.
8:30Pat McAfee:And then you listen to Jordan Spieth talk about him afterwards, kind of could have been – kind of felt like a shot. Kind of felt like a shot about how he does things differently than all of us and he doesn't do as many corporate events. He's not chasing money. He's not chasing any of this. He just wants to play golf and be with his family and he's able to turn it off when he goes home. And he said he was going home with him and he wasn't able to. It's like Scotty Scheffler might be the most relatable, normal. awesome dog in the history of sport. He is a dog. To get this good, you have to have a maniacal work ethic.
9:00Pat McAfee:You have to be dialed in. You have to know every little thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else that's happening around you. To do that, the amount of work you have to put in is absurd. So we'd like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to your sport. We appreciate the hell out of your commitment to you and us watching your baby boy grow up into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything. Doesn't matter what he does. if it is golf or something else. We can't wait to follow along and thank you for what you're doing for sports.
9:27Pat McAfee:Because when your name's on a leaderboard or when you're in a tournament, it is must watch because there's a chance that he goes seven straight holes and hits the best shot you could possibly hit on every single shot. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Bang! Cowboys AP tone. He's untouchable right now and the only person that you can compare him to is Tiger Woods. And he and Tiger polar opposite human beings. Both wear the check mark though.
9:50Darius Butler:Yeah, they do. The only person like the current run that he's on is is tiger like and i hope he continues to do it you know like kepka spieth rory they had all they had run similar to this but the difference between that and tiger was the tiger just did it forever um but you talk about being on the leaderboard and being in the tournament he has put the pga tour on his back he's got 11 straight top 10s and 30 of the last 36 that's the last two years he's been top 10 if he's in the 30 of 36 he's been finished in the top 10 so like if scotty's playing in a tournament he's going to be in the top 10 he's going to be there and everyone's going to tune in to watch Scotty.
10:23Darius Butler:He's literally putting tour on his back.
10:24Pat McAfee:And if we know anything from Swing to Survive. Correct. Full swing.
10:30Darius Butler:There it is.
10:31Pat McAfee:Full swing on Netflix. Their schedules are horrendous. Because he's back in Memphis Tuesday or Wednesday. So he was just obviously in Northern Ireland. Has to fly back to Dallas, Texas. Then he's in Memphis. That's on Tuesday, Wednesday as she has to go in there. Get the course. Get a practice round. Pro-am. I assume he's not doing those pro-am anymore. Who knows? I hope not. I hope he isn't either. The guy's making top 10. He's in every single weekend. He's doing his entire thing. But it's like him being able to balance being a human while their touring schedule is insane over there. Not a lot of time down.
11:02Pat McAfee:Not a lot of time with family. The fact that he's been able to balance it all and figure it all out, I'm proud of him. I'm pumped for him. Let's go to the talks at the table. At Boston Corner. At Ty Schmidt. Con man. Your thoughts on old Scotty Scheffler carrying golf right now for all of us. And even, I think, the Live guys and the PGA guys, they're all saying, that's the motherfucker right there. And that's a good place to be if you're here.
11:21Darius Butler:Yeah, and thank God we got him. I feel like without Scottie, it is a much different tournament. Obviously, it's a major no matter what you're going to tune in, but I think that was my biggest takeaway is that when it is a major, you want 18th hole coming down to the finish. Everybody's tied, and you're damn near going to go to a playoff. But when it comes to Scottie, when it is like that, and you're just watching Scottie Scheffler golf, because that's all it was. You weren't watching for competition. You weren't watching to see who's going to win. and you know Scottie's going to win. You're watching Sunday just to see what he does, and he delivers.
11:55Darius Butler:That's why I think I have grown to love Scottie so much is because it's not like a walk in the park. You mentioned it. The first hole, he's basically going for the hole. He's going for a damn albatross, and he doesn't need to. I think that's why it is so entertaining, and it is great to have a dominant golfer because even when all those guys were going, Brooks was making his run and everything, there wasn't like the clear cut number one. Tony just said it. In the last two years, he's been top 10 in 30 events. Like he is by far the greatest goal. He's head and shoulders above whoever you want to put at number two.
12:31Darius Butler:And I think that's why it has been so entertaining to watch some of these matches because you know, he's just balling out.
12:36Pat McAfee:Yeah. I enjoy watching him golf and what can't be lost in all this debuts, nine year NFL vet is the amount of work that has to go in to get to this point, you know, because he's just so ho-hum all the time. You know, it's just like, I just hit it 350. I just put it to two feet on a Sunday at the Open, a major that I have never won before. I just made a huge putt. He made, I forget what his putt's where he is. Best day he's ever had putting, I think. I think he's figured out the putting because the putting was kind of the question mark here. How good was Scotty's putting, says Jamie Kennedy. Great account, pulled up some great stats.
13:08Pat McAfee:He finished a week 59 to 63 putting inside 10 feet. Okay, so those are the ones that are, first of all, they piss you off.
13:15Darius Butler:The knee knockers.
13:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones that piss you off. But also, if you're able to make those, you can gain a lot of strokes. Scotty Sheffler used to miss every once in a while at this distance. And everybody was like, his only weakness is his putter. His only weakness is his putter. It's like, the guy's won three majors. I don't know if his putter is that weak. I understand it's not as good as his irons or his driver. But he went to work on his putter very clear, very evident.
13:39Adam Schefter:Changed his grip.
13:40Pat McAfee:Changed his grip.
13:41Adam Schefter:He went to the claw grip, and it's been different since. And you talked about everything, man. and how his peers speak about him. I think DeChambeau, he spoke about him after. I think they're both like Dallas area kids. He was like, look, I used to play against Scottie all the time. He was never that good. You talked about the work ethic. Like, he was bogey free up until that part put. That was when he showed like the biggest, you know, emotion. He had the big fist pump. He had that double bogey a little bit later. But that kind of shows you, even though I'm head and shoulders above the field, I'm going to win this tournament.
14:08Adam Schefter:I care about my next shot, my next stroke. He's just dominant. And it's not like he's perfectly fundamentally sound. He's not like an Adam Scott or like a Rory. Like you look at that, okay, this is the perfect swing. His feet are always different. His finishes with his hands. So a guy like me who's kind of, you know, fairly new in the golf and watching him do it and watching him do it his way and still be kind of like just himself. It's almost like watching Barry Sanders. Like Barry Sanders, he was dominant. He did freaky shit on the field every Sunday. But he was just, he wasn't like speed. He wasn't doing all the other things.
14:39Adam Schefter:And obviously this is an individual sport, so he can win, unlike Barry on those old Lions, who had to struggle with some tough teams. But it's been special watching Scottie, man. It's unbelievable.
14:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a good comparison there, Barry Sanders. I really – I never thought of that, as you're saying.
14:54Adam Schefter:Yes, because, you know, Barry – Where's he from?
14:57Pat McAfee:Where's Barry Sanders from? Kansas. What's he at?
15:00Adam Schefter:Whereabouts? Wichita. Oh! I'm not going to lie. The first – it's tough.
15:08Pat McAfee:you're really trying to put some sauce on wichita yeah like a little spanish the eye the first eye hard second eye pronounce that thing as an e accent yeah wachita kansas is not a bad spot but yeah obviously uh barry sanders obviously handed the ball back to the official after he touched on people still are told that to this day it's like watching scotty scheffler will he be like this for 20 years possibly and you talked about his swing being new to golf everything they tell you you're not supposed to do hey those feet need to remain the same those feet need to stay there somehow scotty's been able to dance obviously not in his irons but in the driver in the tee box he does the hokey that some bitches right foot in oh yeah left foot in both feet out balls jumping so it's like obviously you got to find your every time you see that target boom the triangle the little triangle hey this is where you need to aim it's like they were golfing in pittsburgh third tree over this is where you need to hit it and then all of a sudden And Scotty's ball is just, and then, oh, wait, is it going to come back?
16:07Pat McAfee:Of course it is. Like a magnet. The guy's unbelievable. All right, congrats to Scotty. Also, congrats to all the NFL teams that are currently showing up at training camp. Tell them we don't have time to break it all down. How many teams are currently already checked into camp?
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16:20Darius Butler:So the Chargers and Lions are already in camp. They're playing in the Hall of Fame game. They've been there. And then today the Chiefs and Cowboys report. 22 teams report tomorrow. And then two more report on Wednesday, Steelers being one of those.
16:32Pat McAfee:Okay, so I think it's 26 tomorrow.
16:34Darius Butler:Or sorry, 26 tomorrow.
16:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, 26 tomorrow, two today, two yesterday, or whatever the line of charges reported. And then two on Wednesday. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from a golf course, I do believe, a Michigan man, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Yeah, baby, Schefter. Schefter, how's it going over there? You guys hitting it like Schefter. I'm Adam Schefter today, and I will say you were talking about Scotty Schefter before. Pat, you know Jimmy Sexton, the superpower agent who represents half the coaches in college football, correct? Yes, sir. Yeah, do you know who Jimmy Sexton's son Parker's college roommate was?
17:11Pat McAfee:Of course. He's just Scotty. I guess it would be Scotty there. Scotty at Texas. And I like to tease Jimmy all the time that you can represent all these college coaches. You can represent some of the biggest players in the NFL. but you had the greatest money-making prospect within your grasp as you were grooming through Texas. He was sleeping at your house, and you didn't even get him as a client. That's a big whiff. Hey, Jimmy Sexton rarely misses. Jimmy Sexton, an absolute beast, a weapon. The fact that, obviously, everybody's connected. It feels like it. Let's talk about that. Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and his boy.
17:49Pat McAfee:How is that networking event up there? They're just billionaires walking around everywhere at that Michigan golf outing that you're currently at. This is a fundraiser for Michigan. And so we've got the Michigan football program today. And it was very nice because it was very opportune. The last time I believe I spoke to you, I was at Oakmont playing with Wink Martindale. And when I got home from Oakmont after my flight was canceled and I had to drive seven and a half hours from Pittsburgh to New York. After I got home and went to go play golf that week, I realized that my five wood wasn't in the bag.
18:21They left it behind. It turned out it was in Wink's bag, but Wink left his clubs in Baltimore and went to Florida for three weeks. So Wink conveniently returned my 5-wood to me today, and the 5-wood has been glorious so far, Pat.
18:34Pat McAfee:That's amazing. I assume you hit that 5-wood, what, 155-160? You're giving me credit that I don't deserve. Maybe 125-160. I'm joking. I'm joking. Happy you're joining us. Thank you for joining us. Tell your partners there we apologize for the interruption. Let's talk a little NFL news. shall we? TJ Watt gets his deal done. 41 million per three years, 123, 108 fully guaranteed. Every insider, every Pittsburgh person was like, this deal is getting done. This is a no brainer. He held out of mandatory minicamp. I thought that was a big deal. I thought to myself, maybe this is uglier than we thought beforehand.
19:12Pat McAfee:How did this deal end up getting done? And three years, 123, was this the number it was always going to be for TJ? Well, I think the issue really when they were sitting down and talking was length. I think the Steelers would have preferred a shorter-term deal and T.J. Watt would have wanted a longer-term deal, and they always were going to resign him, as we talked about. The fact of the matter was I think it's very convenient for a lot of these guys to take a stand in that mandatory minicamp going in, whether it was T.J. Watt or Trey Hendrickson or Terry McLaurin or some of the players who didn't show up and incurred over$107 ,000 of fines that is collected and mandated by the collective bargaining agreement.
19:53You basically say, okay, I'm going to make a$107 ,000 statement to my team that I'm not happy with where the talks are at. And as you go into the summer, if you're getting the deal that T.J. Watt gets done eventually, what is$107 ,000? Even at the end, the agent can say, hey, I need you to throw in$107 ,000 more to cover the fines. And it was pretty incredible because T.J. Watt has 108 sacks in his career, and the guaranteed money was$108 million. And I asked, was that coincidental? Did we know? They didn't even realize it. So that was by having to say it.
20:29Pat McAfee:So you actually presented that piece of information. So this is good. Did you guys do this on purpose? 108 sacks, 108 million guaranteed? That's cute. And they didn't realize it until it was raised. That was exactly how it matched up his career sacks and the guaranteed money. But what's$107 ,000 on$108 million guaranteed? You're not talking about anything. And that's why T.J. Watt can make that statement, even though they were just really far apart, disagreeing on the length of the contract. So I think he would have wanted four years. I think they would have liked two years. They compromised, met at three, and there's the deal right there for$123 million with$108 guaranteed.
21:05Pat McAfee:That's a sick graphic out of D-Bone. Payday for T.J. was sitting right there, but I do appreciate payday for Watt. Yikes. You know what's very interesting about this to me is that to me was probably the last big move in a Steelers offseason that was probably unlike any Steelers offseason in recent memory. You think about all the moves that they made. This is usually a conservative franchise, laid back, relaxed, not very aggressive. And here's an offseason where they go and they trade for DK Metcalf. They sign Aaron Rodgers. They trade for Jalen Ramsey. They trade for John Smith. They trade away Minka Fitzpatrick, and then they sign T.J.
21:45Watt to the richest deal. That's a non-quarterback deal in NFL history. And it gets, I mean, that would, I said it before, these are not your father's stealers, and they did not operate that way. And I think they're tired of losing six straight playoff games and are being very aggressive to try to do something to snap that streak and make sure that it doesn't repeat itself.
22:06Pat McAfee:Well, yeah, my father knows that Bill Carr could have built the boys up no matter what the roster was. You know, that is what Bill Cowell... But my father and my father's friends would say, yeah, it's about time we try to win some fucking games. Like, I think that all of Pittsburgh is pumped about this, but expectations now are only one thing. Here we go. Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh's gotta go to the Super Bowl. There they go. Good luck, boys. Congrats to Con, too, getting all those deals done. We are very proud of him. Speak about another deal, especially for a pass rusher. George Karlaftis gets his deal done.
22:46Pat McAfee:Congratulations to him. Obviously, the Chiefs have been making moves. Quarterback tacklers have gotten paid. Obviously, in this world that we're in, disrupting the quarterback is a massive ordeal. A lot of people are saying you need four number one overall type picks on the D-line. D-line seemingly becoming a place of interest for all teams. Not that it hasn't been in the past, but a lot more money going there. Karlaftis is a beast. seven sacks in the last two postseasons, which is all seven games, most in the NFL. 23 pressures, seven games, most in the NFL. 15 quarterbacks hit, seven games, most in the NFL.
23:20Pat McAfee:So this guy, whenever the lights are the brightest shows up, he gets paid. Now, let's move to another quarterback tackler that is obviously sitting on deck. Go ahead, D-Butch.
23:29Adam Schefter:Yeah, we got an elite pass rusher out in Dallas. Michael Parsons set to play on his fifth-year option. I believe it's around$24 million. And with these new deals getting done, miles gear and now tj getting his done what's the latest with micah the cowboys are slow playing it again surprise surprise and they have not been in any rush now mike is going to go to camp and mike is going to be there and mike is going to do what micah does but i could tell you that going into camp the two sides we're not very close to a deal and i don't think the dallas cowboys have been overly aggressive about getting a deal done there have not been very many conversations and i I still think that everybody believes that at some point this deal is going to get done.
24:09But if we go back to last offseason as a roadmap, C.D. Lamb got done, I believe, late in August. Dak Prescott got done on the opening day of the NFL season. And we'll see when they can get something done with C.D. Lamb, with Micah Parsons, who they want to get done, obviously. But it doesn't sound like it's on a fast track right now. Now, that can change. And I do think that when they get a deal done with him, it's going to make him the richest defensive player in NFL history. It'll be the richest non-quarterback deal in NFL history. But, again, not close right now. And we'll see if they can find a way to get there this summer, as they have in the past with some of their other premier players.
24:48Pat McAfee:Moola got to 1 ,000 % waiting on TJ. No questions asked. Waiting on TJ, wait on TJ. That's fine. But the Cowboys have not exactly been pushing the envelope either. pat we'll see they've been very slow about this i i respect jerry jones and his business acumen i do personally i love it ever since i watched him on that joe buck interview show where he said uh he said something along the lines of uh there's people that are 230 yards out from the green a par five it's gonna be their second shot there's a little bit of water and they lay it up and then they try to get a birdie he said i'm standing over that ball and i'm going for the green every fucking time and then he talked about how he went all in for the Dallas Cowboys and he talked about how he always goes all in for all of his businesses and then you watch him lead the most valuable franchise in the world basically you think to yourself wow this guy great businessman then you watch the way some of his contracts get handled it's like Jer if you were to get these done a little bit earlier this wouldn't be as big CD obviously massive Dak Prescott he was like two years late on that deal for it to be as big as it was he always gets it done always takes care of his guys but it always comes at some sort of significant cost which led to one of my favorite quotes i've ever heard which he said anything i've ever loved or has become very good for me people have told me i've overpaid for it's like got an excuse for it i love it but we all just know mike his deal is going to get done even if he gets hurt even if he doesn't play well we all assume the deal is going to get done and now it's just like when i guess when maybe it's after a cowboy's loss happened cowboy's loss happens like week six what happens boom congratulations michael The Barca just signed for$42 million a year on a four-year deal.
26:28Pat McAfee:It's like we all know it's going to happen, Jer. We all know it's going to happen. Might as well just get it done.
26:33Darius Butler:Like a Chris Jones situation with the Chiefs where they open up week one against the Lions. Up in the suite. He's up in the suite. Chiefs end up losing to the Lions. David Montgomery runs all over him. And then what? Next, the week after, two weeks after that, Chris Jones gets paid$90 million.
26:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's going to happen. And the market's been set. Miles, TJ, Micah's going to expect the same exact thing. Mulligat is going to do it. Okay, we know we're taking up your time. Let's continue to roll around the NFL quickly. Tone has a question, speaking of the Lions.
26:58Darius Butler:Yeah, Shefty, it feels like, you know, New Year, same situation, potentially, for the Lions. Levi Ozurike shows up for camp, and then, you know, we get reported that he's out for the season with an ACL. Dan Campbell actually had this to say.
27:12Pat McAfee:Alright, let me start with Levi. Levi is out for the year. Alright, Levi's surgery was, you know, it was significant, but it needed to be done. Out of his control, and it needed to be done. So he will miss the season.
27:34Darius Butler:So, Shefty, we were talking about the wording there from the MCDC was a little weird. Did he show up with an ACL injury? Did it happen in the first day of practice? What happened there for the Lions? Look, he's missed parts of the last three seasons with injuries. He had the injury last year, and from the sounds of that, without knowing. It sounds like they went in there and the damage was greater than they anticipated, and he's going to miss extensive time. I don't know whether there was more damage than just the ACL or what the situation was, but obviously it was a significant injury that's not going to allow him to play this season.
28:09It's the third straight year that he's missing time. You just hate to hear it. You can see how emotional Dan Campbell was about that, and he's been a great player when he could stay healthy, and that's what's frustrating and disappointing because you want somebody like that out there and now they have another setback i don't know whether he aggravated it or just so extensive the first time he did it that when they did the surgery it was more than they thought okay so
28:32Pat McAfee:he said it was out of his control was there a previous surgery that was maybe not completed why would the out of his control line happen i don't well i think sometimes i'm guessing i'd have to make another call but i think they go in there and sometimes the damage is just greater than you'd ever imagine. It's more significant. And that looks like it was the case here, but I can't answer that definitively because I do not know that. Okay, well, we would like to let old Kuzno... Godspeed, brother. Sorry this happened. And for the Lions, that's only one thing that's kind of happening. Go ahead, Tom.
29:03Darius Butler:Yeah, we have a list of things for the Lions here. Obviously, Aylan McNeil is out until November with an ACL injury from last year. Aiden Hutchins returning back from his leg surgery. Malcolm Rodriguez tore his ACL on Thanksgiving. Frank Ragnall retired. Zeitler goes in free agency, and then both coordinators are gone. Jeez. It's a list of things the Lions have to worry about. Jeez. Oh, yeah. You're up there at that Michigan alum golf outing. Aside from both the coordinators, they lost eight assistant coaches in all. Eight. So that is a coaching staff that got raided.
29:34Pat McAfee:We're not going to panic, okay? We still have MCDC and Jared Goff. Well, let's see if we're going to panic. You're up there at that Michigan golf outing. Probably a lot of Lions fans around there. How's the temperature on the Lions this year? The NFC North has not gotten worse. No, it certainly hasn't. No, it could be as tough a division as there is in football. It's going to be loaded. Every team is going to be tough. I still think the Lions have a really good team. There are a lot of people who believe that they're just going to continue on. Johnny Morton is going to take over on the offensive side and do great things.
30:04Calvin Shepard on the defense side is going to do great things. I'll show you. There's no way that you could lose that amount of coaching brain power and think it's not going to impact you.
30:13Pat McAfee:Agree. Plus with all those players that are already injured last year, that was kind of their problem. But I have faith in MCDC. Me too. And I have faith in Shep. Hell, I mean, look at the Eagles. The Eagles did it. Yeah, it took them a year. They lose coordinators every year. It took them a little bit. And they have a top 10 quarterback just like Detroit does. Hmm. We're not going to get into that. We're not going to get into that. I enjoy people going crazy. Hey, before we ask you another question, are you going to golf? What's going on? Are you guys in the middle of your round or what's going on?
30:43They just played a hole without me because it's a best ball. Did we party that or record that? Yeah, they just informed me that we parred because I didn't get the puck. Come on, safety.
30:54Pat McAfee:Okay, so is Eisenberg a player or no? Yeah, he's good, but he's been gone for three weeks. He's been touring the world. My friend Steven Eisenberg has. And so he's blaming it on being out of the country. Comes back. He shot an 81 at Oakmont. 41 on the front nine. 41 and he shot. He hasn't hit a shot yet today. Was he at Bezos' wedding? Was he over there at Bezos' wedding? Were you at Jeff Bezos' wedding? Is that where you were? No. Eisenberg could be, though. We just looked him up. He's the president of Ken Wall Steel Corp. I burned Dearborn. Okay. Steve, hey, good to see you. Good to see you, Steve.
31:34You're great.
31:35Pat McAfee:Hey, guys, just stick what he wants to be. Guys, stick what he wants to be. Hey, stay away from concerts. Just in general, pal. Hey, Pat, I'll also say this. Being that we started on agent work and we're going to end on agent work here, all I know is that I flew in. I was supposed to do a post-round roundtable with Desmond Howard and Kirk Herbstreet talking all about Michigan football because Herbie's son goes to Michigan. Herbie's come over to the right side. It's great to see. He's now a Michigan fan. We love to see him being part of the Michigan family. I was going to do this thing. I showed up today because I was told Desmond Howard's here.
32:14Kirk Herbstreet's here. And I'm going to be doing this discussion with them, the three of us. I get here, and Kirk Herbstreet is not here. He's shooting a dog food commercial. Now, last I checked, I've got four dogs. I think Herbie's got one or two. I've got more dogs. So whoever is representing me is doing a poor job that I'm not included in a dog food commercial with Kirk Herbstreet and a event that I came to where he was supposed to be here that he blew me off.
32:45Pat McAfee:That's not right. Who would have thought, Coonan? Yo, Coonan, come on, buddy. Coonan, get to the bottom of it. We need to leave some pet food for this guy. He's got four dogs. Kirk has four or five dogs as well. Kirk has a lot of dogs. He has a fleet. He has a fleet of these things.
32:59Adam Schefter:They're all the most famous dog in the country.
33:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, and Peter is also one of them. Maybe you need to do a little Peterizing of one of your dogs. Because Peter, dog. I got to start taking my dogs to Sunday Countdown. The oldest one is 19 and is blind and she can't hear. 19? And she goes to the bathroom everywhere. So I don't think Green will mind. Yeah, I don't think Greeny will mind when Ella will go to the bathroom all over the studio on Sunday. No, I don't think so. Greeny's fine with it. It's not going to be on his red bottoms. Hey, real quick. Didn't PFT had his dog breaking news, right? Yeah. PFT had his dog, rest in peace, I think, breaking news for a while.
33:36Pat McAfee:Leroy. Yeah, Leroy. I think Leroy, rest in peace, I believe. You. Leroy was a real news hound. Yes. Yes, he was. I agree. That is the case. You should think about maybe one of your dogs becoming an insider. Then you get to peak because Peter's part of game day. Yeah. Peter is a part of college game day. Formally. He's just wherever he, he's a part of game. You need your dog to start breaking some news. Now we start getting the pet food, the dog food. Maybe not Ella, though. Maybe the fresh pets. Yeah, the 19-year-old is going to be a tough sell, but hey, maybe that's a good play in the background there.
34:08Brady and Apple. Brady and Apple, they're about five years old. They're trying for this. If Herbie wants to share the spotlight, and I have an agent that does his job worth his salt, and he gets rid of these dog food deals, that'd be great. Jeez.
34:21Pat McAfee:All right, enjoy yourself out there. I think there's a lot of people in that course will probably get you a deal. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, I'm a chef.
34:29Pat McAfee:Blind and deaf. What do I do? I sit here and all of a sudden I need to get, what do you want me, kibbles and bits, dude?
34:36Darius Butler:I think Herbie might be lying too.
34:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think they already shot the commercial. But there could be another commercial. Oh, there could be. There was a time last year, middle of college football season, where it was Friday night maybe. Herbie was in town because his boy was playing high school football. Sure. He has since committed to Michigan on scholarship. Congrats to Chase. And that is an interesting dynamic all of a sudden. Herbie's dad, I think, coached at Ohio State. He obviously was Ohio State quarterback captain. He's on that college game, they said, OHIO, you know. And he starts saying some stuff, obviously, about Ohio and everybody.
35:09Pat McAfee:Herbie's Herbie. Ohio people get mad at him. Then all of a sudden, his boy does not get offered a scholarship from Ohio State. Does get offered a scholarship to Michigan. His boy's worked his ass off to play football his entire life, trying to create his own path. I got a scholarship offer to Michigan. Go blue. Yeah, hail the victors, baby. You'd be a fool now, I think. And then all of a sudden, Kirk there, got all of Ohio going, you told him to go there. We know you did. And Kirk's like, no, I actually love Ohio State. Kirk gets like emotional talking about Ohio State and what it means to him.
35:42Pat McAfee:His dad, I think his father was coached there a long time. So Chase going to Michigan. First of all, Chase, we love Chase. A lot of moxie on Chase. A little too much. And easy on the love.
35:55Darius Butler:I love Chase. I like the kid, kind of. What? I hear what you're saying.
36:00Pat McAfee:I love Chase. If we were to go around the room, Ty loves Chase. He's a good boy. I love Chase. Ty and Tone. Good boy. He's a sweet boy. Love is a strong word. Okay, Gumpy also has his dots about love. I don't really know him that well. Okay, Nick's never been around Chase. Good kid. I will say Chase has some takes. Everyone's around Chase and we'll fire off some takes.
36:20Darius Butler:He's a young kid.
36:21Pat McAfee:He's a high schooler.
36:22Darius Butler:Well, he's a college, obviously. He's lived a life. You want to know why Herbie's not up there? Because he's going to be chirping for Ball State in a year. Okay? I love Herbie. I do. It's real tough coming in as a quarterback when you're coming in with the number one recruit overall in the entire season. What do you think this is? What do you think Chase doesn't understand the situation he's walking into? I know he understands the situation. And it is sweet. Hey, I'm going to Michigan. It's sweet. You know what you don't have to deal with a year into college? Hey, I'm transferring to Miami of Ohio, actually.
36:54Pat McAfee:Let's go, Mac. Chase might end up being a West Virginia boy. He can run. Big up. That's what I'm saying. Chase can run. Exactly. I'm not saying he's going to leave. You need to watch him. That's exactly what I'm saying. You're starting to dance a little bit too much. Miami of Ohio, the Ohio Bobcats. Yeah, you're starting to dance a little bit too much, buddy. Okay, we're Big 12.
37:09Darius Butler:Dancing too much. You know who's dancing too much?
37:11Pat McAfee:Who?
37:12Darius Butler:Schefter. Because if I was 19 years old and blind and deaf, I'd want to get shot in the head so bad. You're talking about that dog? 19 years old is a long time. It's supposed to be 280 in dog years. I'd be so mad.
37:24Pat McAfee:Why? If I'm that dog... I got... Valerie, our dog, Pitbull Sharpay. She's like 12 years old right now. Okay. 12, 13 years old. That makes sense. Yeah, but she's obviously an older dog. And just hanging out with her.
37:38Darius Butler:I'm talking about quality of life those last five years.
37:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's still sweet, though. She has a bed, basically, in every room. It's a really cool thing. When he said 19, I thought to myself, seven more years with Valerie would be wild if that was to happen, especially at this case. But man, those dogs. Valerie, I hung out with Val Saturday a little bit late with her. And I gave her a speech, basically. I was like, hey, you've been a good dog. Just want to let you know that. Whenever you need to go, you go. Could you imagine doing that for seven years? 19?
38:09Darius Butler:No. Oh, he's talked about that dog. He legitimately has to pick it up and take it outside every single time it has to go to the bathroom. Pooping dust. That's what I'm saying.
38:17Pat McAfee:it. That's what they're saying. Pooping probably not happening if I had to get it. Poop is the toughest thing. Just puke and poop. It's a lot of energy to poop. Vaughn Miller has signed with the Washington Commanders. Also now has the Washington Whatevers. First of all, we love Vaughn Miller. We are Vaughn Miller fans. There was a time where Vaughn Miller was coming on a show once a week. Remember that? It was great chit-chatting with him. He signed an exclusive deal with the place. Couldn't join us anymore. which is a bummer, but we still continue to follow along. Future Hall of Famer, probably future general manager in the NFL.
38:51Pat McAfee:He is now signed with the Washington Commanders. Washington Commanders obviously in the middle of trying to get a new stadium built in Washington, D.C. That's potentially going to be put on hold. And we learned that from a truth social post from the president of the United States who said they need to change their name back immediately. And I'll tell you what, I don't know if the president has read the tea leaves on the Internet or has talked to the Washington fan base. I will say this from a personal opinion and my own personal research. The name Commanders at the beginning didn't love it. Who are we?
39:23Pat McAfee:The Commanders. Tough name. Sure.
39:26Adam Schefter:Good song. A couple years later here now, after them having some success,
39:31Pat McAfee:Commanders is not a terrible name. Not a horrendous name. Washington football team didn't think it was a horrendous name. I think if you win, anybody will like any name. What I will say, though, for the Washington football fans, they played here away game a couple years ago they took over a lot of Lucasville Stadium they got a big fan base I didn't see a single Washington Commanders piece of merch football team no I didn't see that there was no WFTs or WTFs it was all from the days when Alex Smith was there
40:06Darius Butler:Joe Theismann Doug Williams
40:09Pat McAfee:every piece of merch shirt, hat. I mean, I think I saw towels, blankets. And there was like 35 ,000.
40:17Darius Butler:Scary Terry went off.
40:20Pat McAfee:Insane. Deep touchdown that went in the fourth quarter. We should have beat them. It was an awesome environment. It was electrifying. But there was Washington fans everywhere. All of them had Redskins merch on. All of them. Every single person that was there. Now, is that because they are not from there so they've been generational fans? Like, my dad was a fan. My father's father. My mother's mother was a fan of the team. And this is the only merch that they had they had not bought the new stuff yet or whatever the case is i think president trump knew that there is a contingency of people that are very much on board with getting back to the redskins day with that being said i think it's going to take a lot i think it's going to take a lot for that to happen is the threat of a stadium being stopped from being built enough to change it back yep i think the new ownership group certainly has something to figure out
41:04Darius Butler:That's a bold play.
41:05Pat McAfee:Now, obviously, there is a former, I believe before he was president, Donald Trump tweeted about this, saying that the president was president talking about the name of a football team.
41:18Adam Schefter:Yeah.
41:18Pat McAfee:More important things.
41:20Adam Schefter:There are some important things out there.
41:22Pat McAfee:Situations are situational, obviously. And you can kind of do this whole number. But I think what people need to realize, especially the people that are very against whatever he says, and if he says something this time that you're against, it's like there is a contingency of people on the other side that are very loyal and pumped behind that. And now we find ourselves yet again at a beautiful crossroads of boom! I'm right. No, I'm right. Until nothing happens, all I know is they need a new stadium. Bad. The poop pipes were bursting. So bad. All over the place. People are damn near dying with rails cracking from fans doing this.
41:56Pat McAfee:People are having a drink of beer. All of a sudden, what's in their beer? Oh, poop and water. and urine. What's that from? The pipe right above me. Burst. Boom. John took a dump two seconds ago. Now it's in my beer because this stadium stinks. Things cracking. People potentially falling. This is a massive organization. This is the biggest league on earth. This is the most profitable league on earth. They have been an embarrassment. That stadium has been an embarrassment to the league. We used to see it and think to ourselves, is that a is that an MLS stadium? It can't be an NFL stadium. That's got to be an old NFL stadium.
42:29Pat McAfee:They got a new NFL stadium. They moved out of that stadium. Now the XFL is playing there. Is that where the D.C. defenders are playing? No, that's where the Washington NFL team is still playing at. It's like, that's an embarrassment. Can't have that. So can't have the stadium holdup happen for the good of the league, for the good of the game. But, boy, it feels like if actual politics are getting involved and the president's involved, and there's a lot on both sides, I think it's a big classic Washington, D.C. I don't think anything's happening.
42:58Darius Butler:Feels pretty simple to me.
42:59Pat McAfee:Feels like we're playing in that stadium for the next 20 years?
43:01Darius Butler:I don't know. You want a new stadium? Go back to one of the most recognized names in NFL history.
43:08Pat McAfee:Clearly, that is how one side definitely feels.
43:10Darius Butler:They can't play in that stadium. You just said it. It is for the next 20 years, and we're all going to watch because Jaden Daniels is there. This is now becoming a premier place. I mean, they have Debo Samuel and Terry McLaurin. They have notable, notable names, and now Jaden Daniels is 24. so for the next 15 years this team's going to be on prime time and competing for Super Bowls they gotta get the stadium done
43:32Pat McAfee:they gotta get that guy's deal done first of all how about the ownership being like Terry we want to get your deal done do you know what we're dealing with
43:40Darius Butler:you see this post
43:42Pat McAfee:you on Truth Social you know who this is you're not on it Terry we're trying we're trying to get this whole thing done that's the president yeah can he can he veto us getting a stadium yeah sure can yeah he certainly can he certainly can make it a lot harder then there'll be judges and this and then some regional judge will bump up sure i've been learning a lot about all this way too much my algo especially now because it actually is football related yeah so my algo is like i don't know if you've heard but the time has come politics and sports boom here's it right down your feed here's everybody that's pissed off about it here's everybody that's pumped about it wow you'll be surprised to hear that these people actually want this.
44:24Pat McAfee:It's like, who are they? Well, that's actually a Native American society, blah, blah, blah. They are against? No, they're for it. Well, I just read that this Native American society, well... Two separate entities. Which side? Different. How do they ever get anything done?
44:36Adam Schefter:That's exactly why they won't go back. That's what I'm saying. You know, everybody from the top down, they've been doing everything right, you know, and the stadium will get done. I think this is just, you know, just yapping on social media. I am concerned about what's going on with the NIL potentially limiting it. what they can make. But wherever they play, whatever the team name is, which I think it will be, Commanders, that guy, those highlights that's been running, that's the guy that needed to keep in the building. Because I think when he was drafted, it was still the Redskins. And he's been dominant.
45:06Adam Schefter:He's been productive year in and year out, regardless of who's that quarterback. Conman just called it. Jayden Daniels being there seems to be the face of the franchise. Should be a guy for the next decade at least. You want to get your guy who's been a pillar in the organization in there and standing there comfortable. All these wide receivers getting paid all these people are getting paid he should be the first guy on the list to get taken care of before camp they report tomorrow as well so hopefully uh they can get whenever they report
45:32Pat McAfee:let's go back to the nil thing because that was a big storyline i saw a bunch of headlines i didn't see what was actually saying because this is once again politics meeting sports which is great it's just absolutely great people love that we love everything about that the nil commission committee thing we've talked about how that's impossible impossible that'll be an impossible feat because if somebody presents a deal an advertising deal from a company how is a group of people in America in a capitalist world that we live in hopefully forever Jesus that's a wild thing to think about but if you're able to make money from a company how is a group of people allowed to say that it's a worthy deal or not like in America an adult who's allowed to get a deal done gets presented an opportunity from a company to advertise for them and it's worth two million bucks then a committee is supposed to say whether or not it meets the window or the criteria of what a deal looks like who says what a deal looks like this kid just negotiated a better deal than anybody in history if it's only two posts if it's a million dollars a post then this person maybe should be representing united states It's government negotiations with other countries, if that's the case.
46:47Pat McAfee:How can you ever turn any of those down? What's the purpose of a committee? I don't know how you could say no to anything. I think there's just lawsuits on top of lawsuits. So unless there is some form of, hey, you're allowed to rule that there is a window in these things, which I guess could limit some of it. But that committee is a waste of time, I think, personally. Unless there's some sort of power. I don't know how you. I'm very worried about how they stop all that. And by very worried, I mean like the game's going to be great. The players are going to get paid grotesquely. Only some schools are really going to be able to do it.
47:23Pat McAfee:Everybody else is going to have to catch up. And it's like, has that always been happening just at a lower level? Kind of. So I'm not worried about the game itself. And just like Sankey said, it's strained. It's not ruined. But it's like that committee thing, I don't see the purpose. I don't know how that is going to do anything. I don't know how, because how do you turn down any deal? If I was to go to a committee of agents with the deal that I negotiated with ESPN for the licensing fee, and these people who I could run circles around at the negotiating table tell me that that's not a lot of deal, I'd be very pissed off.
47:56Pat McAfee:Yeah. I would be very pissed off. Just because you couldn't get this deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get this deal. And by somebody, I got this deal done, and this is how this goes. Here are the reasons why I got this deal. And oh yeah, we'll be profitable for the company very quickly, which is exactly what happened. So I don't know how that committee, I don't know, man. So I think there has to be some sort of something. Like there has to be some sort of something if they're even going to have that committee. And if they're trying to make it fair, I don't know how you. Yeah, needed to.
48:24Pat McAfee:I don't know how you. In my head, I have a small brain. There's people a lot smarter than me, obviously. But I feel like we've dealt with all the things that are currently being dealt with in this world. whether it's advertising digital deals, linear stuff, social stuff, all the brands basically that they're working with, we've kind of worked with and know all the people. So it's like I don't know how you get it on track. I genuinely don't. So if they're trying to make some sort of something, I guess you could word that as limiting NIL, but I guess until we see it, we have no idea.
48:56Darius Butler:Well, and is it like the Ryan Williams situation? Like Ryan Williams just signed a deal with Nike. Second player ever. Second player after Shador. Is it a situation where, you know, Alabama's an Under Armour school? So if Nike were to offer Ryan Williams, like is that the checks and balances type of situation where Ryan Williams could have an offer, but because his school is an Under Armour place?
49:19Pat McAfee:Just real quick, whatever the school is, is what you're going to be wearing on that field. Yeah. Yeah, we had a situation like that.
49:27Adam Schefter:Because kids are getting deals in high school now, like these apparel deals. And obviously you go to a university and they have these huge, huge contracts, apparel contracts with said company. So off the field, though, they'll still be able to do appearance. Say, you know, you're an Adidas guy. You go to a Nike school. You'll still be able to do Adidas signings, do Adidas commercials and things like that. But just like you said, like it's no going back. Like you think about the young lady in Texas Tech who just kind of reset the market. You assume Arch Manning probably resets the market. The young kid we just saw in the flag football game who has offers from the entire country making one-handed catches.
50:02Adam Schefter:You assume when that guy goes to college, these guys are going to reset the mark. So you can't set them back and say, oh, that's not a fair market deal. Yeah, who says?
50:10Pat McAfee:Is TJ Wackett and$41 million a year a fair market deal? I guess because Miles Garrett got that. Well, before Miles got it, who got nobody? So it's like, here's the, based on recent guidance issued by the College Sports Commission and stipulations within the house settlement, The NIL Go Clearinghouse overseen by the CSC is rejecting or expected to reject the following types of deals. Deals lacking a valid business purpose. This refers to deals where the entity providing the compensation doesn't offer goods or services to the general public for profit. Two posts on social. Okay, that's a business purpose.
50:38Pat McAfee:Deals solely designed to funnel money to athletes or school. For example, a collective holding an event or selling merchandise with the primary purpose of raising funds to pay athletes rather than offering goods or services to the public will be rejected. So funds have to go to them. Can we raise funds? That doesn't make any sense. Deals that are not within a fair market range of compensation. Who says what's fair market? Exactly.
50:59Darius Butler:That would be the two posts thing.
51:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Who says that? I don't know. I feel like they're going to have a lot of trouble. Unless there is some sort of power given to them, which is what they would have to get, I think. Which goes back to what the headline could be.
51:14Darius Butler:But based on this, too, this committee, wasn't the whole point like, hey, we need consistency. Because that's what we're lacking here. There's just no consistency. and it seems like with this type of thing, it's the kind of thing where the rules still might change year after year because if you're going to do that, the fair market range of compensation, they need to go through every single player in the NCAA and figure out what that is.
51:35Pat McAfee:Not only NCAA because some of these guys are entertainers. They stream as well. They go through streaming. True. I mean, social. It's like I don't know how you in these suits are going to be able to figure it out. And how much time. To go through all that.
51:47Darius Butler:That would take years and years to do that.
51:50Pat McAfee:And who's the regulator on what the market is? Who's the one that regulates what a good fair deal is?
51:56Darius Butler:NCAA football? He's only 75. We can't be giving this guy that guy. Yeah, are you going to go off ratings on Duque?
52:03Pat McAfee:I don't know. I don't know. They've got a lot to work on on this. This feels like a lot of lawsuits. Yeah, so many. I'm viewing me as an 18-year-old. And once again, I pitched the NFL in a, I think it was NFLPA meeting or maybe it was a team meeting. I forget what it was. No, it might have been an NFL meeting. I was like, how come the coach are allowed to have scratch-offs here in town? I'm not allowed to have a scratch-off. How come I'm not allowed to have the McAfee Millions scratch-off here with the state lottery or whatever? Like, you're not allowed to do it. It's gambling. I'm like, you guys got a scratch-off.
52:36Pat McAfee:How come I'm not allowed to scratch-off? And then next question, I have my own merch deal. I don't want the NFLPA to handle my merch deal. Well, the NFLPA has everybody's merch deal. Well, I'm not joining the NFLPA. Do they have my merch deal still? well i guess technically not but they already have it it's like nope i'm not signing up for the nflpa so i'm just thinking as somebody who has always been a little bit of a fucking prick whenever it comes to getting money like that is you know come from not a lot not telling a story that not a lot of people have but i've been getting to the money since like fifth grade selling cigarettes at 50 cents a pop great business great roi now granted whenever they catch you with a carton in fifth grade in your backpack they're looking for you to get kicked out of that school forever.
53:13Pat McAfee:And Sally McAfee had heard it. You had to help me. So it's like... Carton? Carton, yeah. I was moving, dude. I was sounding high schoolers, too. I was good. The plug, hindsight, terrible. Human. Yeah, yeah. Might be worse. Not in plumb. There's no way. Well, he was making sure you weren't smoking them. Of course. Well, you never get half your own supply. I obviously understood that, but I was around a lot of people that smoke cigs, and I just figured, like, okay, if you guys are going to smoke cigs, I might as well at least be able to get a grapefruit and extras here. yeah a grape juice and extras yeah first couple were stolen from uh friend's mom's ashtray okay i'm gonna go ahead and pluck that she had massive lipstick so i had to cut off the tip so it was a shorter filter love it so i was just sold it that way shorter filter shorter stem and then once i sold it was quicker i sold it yeah i sold it for i think uh it was like a half cig for like uh 50 cents or something like that and immediately it was like i gotta get more cigarettes so i started find an ashtrays and then i found a guy a kid i guess he's 18 years old to start supplying me yeah i was moving i was telling the high schoolers it was not good i mean obviously terrible thing but they were going to smoke cigs regardless i might as well at least get my grape juice yeah and then whenever they caught me it was hell i mean it was i saw the girl get caught i remember her name she was at recess smoking on school property one of the main rules don't do that teacher comes around the corner we have a system we had a system at least can we obey the rules a little bit we're not smoking on the elementary school property streets gonna get real hot flicks that thing up it lands right she was next to a dumpster she flicks it up to into the dumpster doesn't go into the dumpster lands right next door then obviously i think mr gregory caught her mr gregory catches her shout miss gregory he's a good guy he was actually a mass beast me not getting sent like jail juvie or anything like that shot miss gregory saw her walk in i watched her
54:57Adam Schefter:walk in and I was just like knew she was snitch yeah and I just stood there Pat McAfee please
55:07Pat McAfee:come down the office fuck here we go that was a that was a tough walk that was a bad walk I thought I was over then I'd been in some shit obviously not a great kid but that one I thought it was over they took me in the back room never been in this room I was just gonna immediately deny it and then they brought my back back in so what do we have here that feels illegal that feels illegal entrapping a little bit yeah i didn't have an attorney that dr scopia yeah it was dr scopia he and i had quite a run he became superintendent of this guy i mean it was me and dr p did not have a great wish for good reason i assume but my mom went in there and said like aren't we kind of impressed with the business argument of this guy my mom very against me normally my mom is very much uh we got to keep this guy humble you know that was the first time she's ever really gone to bat for me.
55:54Pat McAfee:Thank God. Certainly she's spent like two weeks or whatever. I catch up on all of it. But I stopped moving cigs that day. And I'll tell you what. I don't think I've had a grape juice thing. They were so good.
56:05Darius Butler:The Welch is stock. Oh my God.
56:07Pat McAfee:That's all I wanted. That's how it started. Those little grape juices. Everybody's having these things. They look so good.
56:12Darius Butler:Better than stealing them. True. Bingo.
56:14Pat McAfee:I think Sally probably said that at one point to Dr. Piscopia. Your kid's selling to juniors in high school right now. You need to get them out of here. It's like, well, aren't we kind of impressed? He set up a whole elaborate business. I was pretty proud of me. But what I'm saying is, how are they going to turn down my deal? You can't. Can't do it. Impossible. Unless there's some, hey, you can't be selling a cigarette for 50 cents, says who. This guy's buying it. Supplied man, motherfucker. I got it. He wants it. That's just kind of what this is. Yeah, they set a max. They would have to. But that's what I'm saying.
56:44Pat McAfee:That would have to come from some sort of law to empower the committee. Right. The committee is going to have to be empowered by legal, I think. Because if not, no, no, no.
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58:03Pat McAfee:Sports! Tone comes in hot. That's one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Love the shirt. Just giving a little juice to Tatum, letting them know during recovery and rehab. I'm still here for you, bud. I still got your back. You're still the man, even though you're recovering with your Achilles tear.
58:21Darius Butler:Yeah, I saw you at the WNBA skills competition with Tyrese, and it made me think about how, damn, these guys are just the beginning of their rehab, and they have so long to go. So, yeah, a little love for Tatum. He's still one of the best in the league. People forget about him.
58:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, Tatum is an absolute dog. Never gets talked about in that fashion ever, even though he's already won and everything like that. I think the Olympics, the way he was treated by Coach Kerr and didn't play much has certainly added into it all. I hope he keeps all the chips on his shoulder through this Achilles recovery, and we can't wait to see him back. Tatum, we're pulling for you, bud. Hell yeah, Jason. Halliburton, we're pulling for you, bud. Hell yeah, boys. Good luck, boys. On that note, Tyrese Halliburton will be joining us tomorrow. What? Hey. Yeah, live in studio. I think he – Should have saved it.
59:00Pat McAfee:I don't think we've talked to him since it all happened. I don't think he's talked to really anybody since it's all happened. It's been cool to kind of keep up with his entire process here. I can't wait for him to chit-chat about his mindset and who all he's been talking to and how it's all gone. He's been at every single Indiana Fever event, every single WNBA event. If there's an event that he can get to, that he can kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, and coast his way into, he's going. He's looking for it. He's not allowed to leave. He's not allowed to leave. So his entire rehab and recovery is all happening here in Indianapolis.
59:37Pat McAfee:Did he have massive plans for the offseason, hopefully after winning a title, after dropping 40 in game seven, after everything like that? Of course. Now he's at his house. He's doing recovery. He's at his house. He's doing recovery. And if there's anything happening, anything at all, he would go to the Fisher Freight games if they were happening, and he could roll into that thing because they see him all in. As he's coming in there, he's just trying to break up the monotony of it all, but he's fully focused, locked in. He's got a little bit of a shaggy beard. Okay, like that. Oh, no. Why did you make that face?
1:00:10Darius Butler:How bad is his beard? So he's really becoming part of the – Skill 1 to 10, how bad is this beard? Is he starting to look like the memes?
1:00:17Pat McAfee:I don't know. I don't know. He is starting to look like, which was my exact, first thing I said to him. What memes? First thing, you know. That's a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, who lives online. He knows what memes.
1:00:27Adam Schefter:I haven't been on him. He knows. His nickname ain't the moment.
1:00:30Pat McAfee:It hasn't been during the Knicks series. There was a lot of the memes. But anyways, yes, he does kind of look like that. But it feels like his spirits are high, but he understands that the process sucks. You know, like an Achilles recovery sucks. You got to work on all the little muscles in your feet, in your calves. You got to build back everything. And then whenever you think you're back, you're probably still six months away from being back. It's an entire mental game as much as it is physical. Can't wait to catch up with him tomorrow. Hopefully we'll get a chance to catch up on how his dad's doing.
1:00:57Darius Butler:Pop should pull up too.
1:00:58Pat McAfee:Pop should pull up. That's not a bad idea. Hey, John, come through, dude. Listen, I had a night with Papa Halliburton. What? It was incredible.
1:01:11Darius Butler:And a morning, if you know what I mean. What? No. That is actually the complete opposite of who he is
1:01:17Pat McAfee:That's why I believe he was so mad Because somebody said that he cursed somebody out Somebody said, I don't know who said that Giannis said that he cursed them out or something like that This dude has never sworn a day in his life Talk shit Has never sworn One of those guys Moxie through the roof I mean, I've obviously witnessed him Courtside, I've gotten a chance to chat with him a couple times Friday night, Gumpy and I go to the skills contest Congrats to Sabrina she wins the three-point shooting contest yet again almost beats or she has in the past i guess uh one other time but she almost beat tyrese halliburton's men's record one more time 30 is what he got so he has the men's record i believe for the three-point shooting contest did we know that about tyrese absolutely not until we were at skills contest we learned that sabrina wins again she just won unconscious for like three of the racks i mean and i was there for it i got a chance to witness uh the entirety of it and it was spectacular their skills contest
1:02:13Adam Schefter:about an hour long that's nice okay a lot of skills packed into a short amount of time you
1:02:20Pat McAfee:know if you happen to show up just a little bit late to this thing you know because it's downtown you got to get through traffic there's a lot of this a lot of that you know like you're missing a lot of this let's say you were to get there about 8 30 you you missed missed half the episode I told myself. You got half left. Let's say you get there by 840, you know, because you're thinking, I got at least hour 20 left for this thing. It's in an arena. It's a skills contest. They're going to try to drain every dollar out of this thing.
1:02:44Darius Butler:Well, maybe that's the issue.
1:02:45Pat McAfee:That's what I'm saying. That thing was over. 9.15. Quick. I don't think I've ever been in an event that was that, like, kind of. Commercial break. Perfect. It was. As a viewer, it was pretty nice, quick, in and out. Now, I wonder about families that pay the tickets, get it all the way down there. you're like 10 minutes late you got an hour show then you're able to get out of there who cares there was a weekend of stuff uh but that could be a problem but yeah if you got in there late imagine you get there like 8 55 8 50 you're only there for 10 minutes you see a trophy presentation what's that don't show up yeah but if it's two hour event you're getting there like the perfect time don't be late yeah yeah simple agreed i mean if you got nothing else going on in your life at all you could get there right on time for every event that happens all the time has any event
1:03:29Darius Butler:ever been an hour?
1:03:30Pat McAfee:In an arena? I don't think so. That had open tickets? I don't think so. I was dumbfounded. I'd never been more impressed and flustered at the same time. When it was over, I was like, it's over? They're like, this is over. And I saw everybody getting up and leaving. I'm like, when's the next event?
1:03:50Adam Schefter:Is it only the three-point contest? If you got Diplo in the ones and twos. Diplo was well received.
1:03:56Pat McAfee:Diplo, the EDM Now, to be clear, Diplo did need to pass the aux to the stud buds. I don't know what he was saying. Stud buds ran Indianapolis. Numerous times the stud buds did call for Caitlin Clark to fix things. You know, hey, the bar's closing, 3 a.m. Somebody call Caitlin Clark. We need to keep this thing open. Probably stayed open if I had to guess. But the WNBA here in Indianapolis from We Heard, streets were buzzing. We Heard, places were live. And WNBA players are calling in Miami. That's great. If you'd like to experience Miami, just much more affordable, come to Indianapolis. It's the same thing.
1:04:30Pat McAfee:That's what WNBA players are saying, not me. I'm just telling you what WNBA players are saying. Great weekend here in the city. Congrats to not Kaitlin's team for winning. Correct. She didn't show up for anything either. I think Kelsey Plum, personally, was trying to shit talk Sabrina.
1:04:50Darius Butler:I hope so.
1:04:50Pat McAfee:She was on Kaitlin's team. I believe Sabrina was on Kaitlin's team. So I think she, like, basically was shit-talking her. I don't think she meant to throw Caitlin Clark under the bus as much. And she did say immediately afterwards, I'm just trying to keep it light here. And it was not taken that way at all. No. But a lot of people were saying, like, hey. Come on. Do you know why you're in the city you're in right now? She don't want to come to a T-shirt meeting. I think we're okay with it. She wore it. But I don't think Kelsey was saying that. She did wear it. Yeah, they all wore that shirt. Yeah, Kelsey don't give a damn anyways.
1:05:20Pat McAfee:They all wore that shirt. That's a good point. How about them coming out on the court? Oh, yeah. All wearing it. And then, bang, the only conversation about the entire weekend. T-shirts. There it is. Let's remember Indianapolis, Miami. That's what they're saying. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who does not live in Miami, Indianapolis, a man who lives in Ohio. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk.
1:05:43Darius Butler:Yeah. What's up, Hawker? Yeah, Dipwo was not as well received as I thought he might be in that situation, huh?
1:05:50Pat McAfee:My wife knew of people that were trying to get into Diplo's event. So if that means anything, there was maybe a text or two sent, hey, could you potentially hook up to get into Diplo's thing? So there was, we'd like Diplo to know that there was some buzz. High demand. There's a demand. There was some demand in the city for you. I didn't know anybody in the camp, so I can't. Sure. I've seen Diplo. I think I've seen him perform. He's like a run. The dude's everywhere. He has a running club. He has a whole movement behind him.
1:06:20Adam Schefter:sitting right next to us at Mania. He was.
1:06:23Darius Butler:Diplo was next to us. Oh, yeah, you're right. What city? Philly. Diplo was sitting next to you? Diplo's a mark? Oh, yeah. Diplo's about it. Diplo's kind of the man. What's Diplo's song, just so I know? You know that one that's like... Ding, ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Hey, I'm Diplo. The one with Parker McCollum is Diplo. Lonely Long? Lonely Long, yeah. Okay, that's a banger. Okay, I got it. That whole album has songs similar to that one. He's got a few.
1:06:59Pat McAfee:I respect it.
1:06:59Darius Butler:You heard the one with him and B. Heartless, Morgan Wallen. Where are you now?
1:07:03Pat McAfee:Why you gotta be so hot? That's a banger. Banger? It seems like Diplo's name's on it. It's probably a banger. Is the one with Dua Lipa on there? With DaBaby?
1:07:13Darius Butler:Yeah. Levitates? Spread Yourself? Is that? No. He does have one with DaBaby. That Diplo needs to come back to town.
1:07:22Pat McAfee:Diplo needs to come back to town. All right, WNBA was great. AJ, my take on it all was they're already losing$40 million. Everybody's talked about it. Why not just add an extra$4 million? Give them all$30 ,000. Now they're up over$100 ,000. At least that's a respectable amount for a professional league to pay their professional athletes, especially one that has a TV deal, AJ. Now, them losing$40 million in profits, everybody's attacking the players, saying, hey, you guys create a product that isn't like, that doesn't generate capital. It's like, okay, what are we spending this money on? How can you have$200 million in revenue and then spend$240 million each year and just keep rolling?
1:08:00Pat McAfee:Like, is there never a who's? Yeah, and I don't know.
1:08:05Darius Butler:That's what it is. They've got to fight for percentage, I would imagine. But do we know if there's any other professional sports leagues that are losing as much money? like do other sports like lacrosse yeah allegedly steven colbert's cool we're learning a lot about a
1:08:19Pat McAfee:lot of things so it's it's an interesting kind of um process here because we've been very lucky that we've been forced to just basically only do business with our show our the only way our business has worked is our show has worked is business we have to make money for the people that we are working for like that is how i kind of view it and everything now we've been very lucky to negotiate a lot of deals. Every time though, I give a road back to how your company profits with us. Now, I don't know how many people are doing that. I assume a lot of agents do that as well. I've never been in there with an agent while that's happening, but that is my negotiating style.
1:08:51Pat McAfee:Hey, here's how this thing goes in my eyes. Here's your road back to your amount of money and plus. Here's where you can help us. Here's what we think we can bring you. Now, all of that ends though with profit, okay, which is all any of these people care about. Now, granted, if we can make the world a better place cool if it's going to have massive success cool but if it's going to make the world a better place and have massive success it's probably gonna probably gonna turn a profit probably gonna profit as well so for me from a standpoint as an athlete who actually does negotiations and has been in there with people and generated some capital and i think the valuation of the company that i've guided is probably going to come out here in a little bit and people are gonna be like holy fuck maybe this guy isn't the dumbest dipshit in the history of sports media But with that being said, I think WNBA players making the statement that they did, I appreciate their commitment.
1:09:37Pat McAfee:I appreciate their passion. I appreciate their togetherness, like the collective. Everybody was wearing it. Now, how do you get the road back to make that a profitable company? Now, is that just on the players or is that potentially on all the business people, too, from the league that are doing their entire thing? What are we spending money on? Is it the same as what the NFL PA? Well, it better not be. Age.
1:10:01Darius Butler:Can't have it. did we have any idea all of this was going kind of going on behind the scenes like did anyone know
1:10:06Pat McAfee:the magnitude of all this like everything happening so in my head this is straight out of uh let's
1:10:12Darius Butler:take advantage of dumb professional athletes i mean but we can't first off like we can't be
1:10:16Adam Schefter:turning strip club receipts as business expenses transportation how'd he get there hey whoa how'd
1:10:22Pat McAfee:he get there you think i'm alone in here yeah right there's another nflpa exec in here too Did we talk about the NFLPA in here? Absolutely. We're bettering the NFLPA. This is a meeting, is it not? Yeah, certainly. Expense it. Charge the dumbass players. Now, I could see how somebody would want to do that, especially whenever you just have an actual war chest of money. That is what they call it. We've got to build up the war chest for whenever the CBA negotiations happen because these deals aren't negotiating themselves. They up the fees. We need more money to get the war chest because these deals aren't negotiating themselves.
1:10:57Pat McAfee:When you guys get fined, you need somebody to combat it. We want to hire the best lawyers. You know how we hire the best lawyers? Well, we've got to pay them a high per hour rate. How do we get a higher per hour rate? Well, we need more money from you guys. We go from$20 ,000 from each of you guys,$22 ,000. $22 ,000, you guys. That ain't nothing to worry about it. Where's all this money going? For you. That's where this money's going. Don't you worry about it. Everybody before you has joined it. And look at what the union has done for you in the past. Roll a video. Bang. There was rats running around in a locker room.
1:11:25Pat McAfee:There was E. coli in the water bottles. Jeez. And then your union. changed the entire NFL and got you guys contracts. Veteran men's and rookie men's and yada, yada. That's because of us. And I'm like, motherfucker, you weren't even alive when that happened. You were handing the baton to this entire thing. And all I've ever seen you do is try to let the world know that you are the head of the NFLPA. Now, Demoree Smith had a very difficult job. Very difficult job, Demoree Smith, being the head of the NFLPA. I heard his first speech. When were you drafted? Same. 09. Rookie Symposium. a week after we were drafted in Jacksonville, I think?
1:12:03Pat McAfee:The Cali?
1:12:04Darius Butler:No, I think it was Jacksonville. It was San Diego when I went.
1:12:06Pat McAfee:I think it was Jacksonville when we went. I think it alternates. I think it was Florida. I'm almost pretty sure. I saw Gator. We were doing a conditioning test thing. I think it was in Florida. He gave a speech, though. This is the first time I'm hearing any union person speak.
1:12:18Darius Butler:Palm Beach Gardens. Florida.
1:12:20Pat McAfee:Florida. Okay, where's that at?
1:12:21Darius Butler:Palm Beach. South Florida? You know where Palm Beach is. Yeah, you know. A lot of stuff happened on there. Yeah, didn't you have a house in West Hollywood, AJ?
1:12:29Pat McAfee:AJ, West Hollywood. Not by the house in Florida, actually, no.
1:12:32Darius Butler:Never have.
1:12:33Pat McAfee:Anyways, I went down there. This guy gave a full speech about war. We're going to war with the NFL and yada, yada, yada. We need this. And gave a bunch of quotes and all this shit. And I'm like, man, I didn't know that's how, like, the best business was done. It's just like I'm going to punch somebody in the face. And it's like, well, I guess they feel that way as well. Inevitably, lockout happens. They beat us into negotiation. Jeff Saturday allegedly has to come in, get the deal done. Well, how'd the deal go? Well, it just got done. You know, owners win yet again. They're going to be in the cities long after the players are.
1:13:03Pat McAfee:They're going to be billionaires long after these players go broke. They have all the leverage we lose. It's like, shouldn't we try to just, like, do business with these people? Shouldn't we try to, like, you know?
1:13:11Darius Butler:We need each other. We need each other. Absolutely.
1:13:14Pat McAfee:And there has to be other avenues to create money other than just your negotiations with the NFL. Well, we have licensing agreements with Fanatics. Oh, how much do the players make? Oh, 30 cents a T-shirt. Oh, great deal. That's a fucking great deal. Way to really negotiate that entire thing. Hey, I need your help. I'm getting drug tested the max amount of times every single month for 27 straight months because I think this guy hates me because he thinks I'm lying. Yes, I'm hunting for Bigfoot in Georgia. Yes, I'm hunting for gators in Florida. Yes, I'm hunting for ghosts in Louisiana. I'm tired of this guy testing me everywhere I go.
1:13:42Pat McAfee:He thinks I'm hiding, but I'm here every single time. Can you guys help me? We'll call you back. Two years later, I get a call back. You good, bro? No. I just took 230 tests in 27 months. feels like I was getting targeted a bit but I don't want to let you know I piss clean every single time and I don't need your help anymore I have a bad relationship with the NFLPA always have and when they hired this Lloyd Howe guy I think to myself this guy's in the middle of a fraud case right now this previous company was in the middle of the biggest I think payout in the history of something 350 some million he was the finance guy for this thing that was happening they're like yeah but we like that we like that he was doing that so it's like I think the signs were there you know I think the signs were there that this potentially was not going to work out well.
1:14:21Pat McAfee:But is it ever going to work out well? That's kind of my question in the entirety. Because immediate response is, we need this guy that's been in here for 30 years. It's like, I don't think so. I think you need somebody that is never. The guy to do it. And it was mentioned this morning. There's one dude for this job. Perfect dude for this job. And I don't think. Now, granted, this is me like lobbying for him, I guess. I'm sure there's other good people out there. but this guy he's dealt with crisis management before that was his actual job he was a former player actual job at one point career long career and then he ran a team was the president of a team jason right jay right is the right guy for this job i think for the nflpa crisis management ran a team had to create businesses had to do his thing and he was a player at the same time it's like feels like he's the right guy for the game but i have no idea how much you pay at that job If I look at Demore Smith, he had six different suits at one Super Bowl day that I saw him at.
1:15:18Pat McAfee:I couldn't imagine what the next day was and how the whole thing goes. But it's a wild situation with the NFLPA age. Legit, it's a wild situation.
1:15:25Darius Butler:Well, J.C. Tretter too. J.C. Tretter resigning. So I played with J.C. for a year in Green Bay. And then the fact that he has to resign because of all of this, I guess I didn't know how, I don't know, confusing and how unorganized and how messed up the whole PA was until all this stuff. You didn't know that? I knew the PA was not I was not a gigantic fan of the PA ever I never said it was like smoothly run or hey everything's going well I just didn't know it was this like I didn't know it was this much in disarray I guess when did they decide to delay
1:15:56Pat McAfee:the player performance bonuses I forget what year that was we're going to delay these bonuses to build a war chest right yeah we're going to save these and we're going to delay we're going to pay you in two years or whatever I was like where's my money that's a lot of money
1:16:09Darius Butler:who's making the interest on that Who gets that interest?
1:16:12Pat McAfee:Who's using this? Who's – oh, we're just keeping it away for you for a later day. It's like, well, I fucking want it today. Yeah, I need it. I'm about to go buy a Dairy Queen. I'm about to go buy a franchise. A Dairy Queen franchise. Go to Montreal. And that's what I'm going to do. So it's just – I never saw the business the same way they did, let alone them having their meetings in Hawaii. Remember that? Yeah, we're going to four seasons. We're at Oahu. For what? NFL PA meetings. Two weeks. Who's paying for that? We're making the players better. That's not silly. You are.
1:16:44Darius Butler:All right.
1:16:45Pat McAfee:I can't. I just couldn't. I just. All of it. I'm sure there's good people in there. I'm sure there's good people in there. And somebody within the NFLPA had to point that this shit was happening. So that gives me hope that at least there's some people in there. But, man, I think a new vision would be a good idea.
1:17:00Adam Schefter:Yeah. I mean, it's a tough job. And Tootsie's, by the way. Yeah, first of all. You get it. It's a great restaurant.
1:17:07Darius Butler:Good food. Good food. Overnight food. You're making like$4,$5,$6 million. You don't need to turn in a$700 receipt for a car ride, though. We know that. It's not a car ride.
1:17:16Pat McAfee:Well, you think his family wanted to see those receipts? Two VIP rooms. Absolutely. Two VIP rooms. Eight hours. Eight hours. Extra crepe brulee. What they had back there, they might have a spread of food like fucking J.J. Wadden. Did you see that post, J.J.? Oh, my God. Is that his cheat meal? You think he was acting like that? I didn't see it. You think this was past me?
1:17:37Adam Schefter:Oh, that's why he stayed overnight. breakfast.
1:17:41Pat McAfee:Maybe this is in the back. Maybe this is what Lloyd Howe was looking for. Is he drinking all that
1:17:45Darius Butler:liquid and all of the syrup? He's taking all that down himself? Badlands Booker was actually eating breakfast with him, too. Call JJ.
1:17:53Pat McAfee:That's not just him, right? It better. Is he not? That'll play. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, JJ Watt. JJ!
1:18:05What?
1:18:06Pat McAfee:What the hell?
1:18:11looks sweet what's happening sorry what's happening you tell me dude we uh hey real quick
1:18:19Pat McAfee:you don't know what breakfast is that's apparently what's happening no okay was you were kind of alluding by the way the hair was great yeah go back i did i did not expect the hair uh you were were you alluding that being a cheat meal what what this was your meal this is like a dwayne johnson type cheat meal type just got done with my water now we're doing this type is that what you're doing here because that's how i took it i was alluding to nothing i was just proud of the
1:18:46Darius Butler:breakfast i made for a little family gathering my dad and i put it together out on the blackstone and uh i was just proud of it it looked good no illusions no nothing just i mean that that french toast down there that's some cinnamon swirl french toast i mean eggs were straight off the grill i got a lot of people saying eggs had to be cold. Those eggs were straight off the griddle. Hot, fresh, ready.
1:19:10Pat McAfee:Okay, so how many people ate this?
1:19:14Darius Butler:Six adults. Yeah, six adults, three kids.
1:19:18Pat McAfee:That's a great breakfast. Hey, congratulations on making a great breakfast. Because the way I read that was that'll play. You know, I apologize.
1:19:28Darius Butler:I mean, five slices for myself on the French toast alone.
1:19:32Pat McAfee:No big deal. No big deal. You meant it yourself. You should enjoy it, Chef Watt. Congrats on Espanol.
1:19:37Darius Butler:I missed the PA combo. I heard there was a PA combo going on.
1:19:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, so that's how we got to your breakfast here, actually. We thought Lloyd Howell potentially in the back down there at Tootsie's got two of those spreads. That's where all this money was coming from, especially because he stayed overnight. A little early bird gets the worm down there at Tootsie's. Lloyd Howell says, give me the J.J. Watt cinnamon swirl French toast egg spread down there at Tootsie's. Yeah, disarray is a bit of an understatement. AJ said he wasn't the biggest fan of the NFLPA throughout his career, but he was surprised about how ridiculous this all is. I think that's probably an accurate way to depict it.
1:20:11Pat McAfee:How do you feel, Jage?
1:20:13Darius Butler:Yeah, I mean, I have a similar thought. I mean, the PA is an extremely difficult job because you're trying to get the entire National Football League on the same page, fighting towards the same cause. And you have to remember, the hardest part of it all is that it's 3.3 years or less. That's the average NFL career. So most of these guys are in the league for three years or less. They do not care about long-term goals of the PA. They don't care about long-term objectives. We want to play, and we want to get paid. And that's how I was as a rookie. I came in during the lockout, and they kept talking about all the big-picture things and everything, and I was like, guys, I don't care.
1:20:53Darius Butler:I just want to play. I and my pay Trent Williams got drafted in the same slot the year before me got a lot more money than I did I didn't care I was like put me on the field and let me play as I went in my career and as I saw how this business works I started to understand oh there is a whole lot you should be fighting for here and there is a whole lot that we could do if we all banded together and decided to use our leverage but I understand why we don't because like I said, I was in that spot. So the number one objective of whoever's going to lead this thing next, which is a near impossible objective is to get every single player on the same page, understand that you're fighting for percentages of multi billions and billions of dollars, not for little practice things, not for these little things in the off season, in the OTA days, you need to get everybody on the same page and stand together to fight for one massive goal.
1:21:47Darius Butler:but it's extremely hard to do because guys just want to be on the field and get in the paychecks brother team on me team on three one two three that's what we need james that's what we need
1:21:58Pat McAfee:are you gonna lead it and plus also the bubble probably are you gonna lead it sure i know because i said like i literally don't know if somebody can do it because
1:22:07Darius Butler:you're you're fighting against guys dreams you're fighting against everything they've worked their whole life for so you got all these rookies and all these first and second year guys that have dreamt about this moment, and you're trying to get them to stop it. You're trying to get them to say, no, I don't need to play right now. This is a bigger thing. And it's really, really hard to do. You've been to those meetings. You schedule a meeting for Wednesday after practice at the end of a long day, and it's 4 or 5 p.m., and you've been working your ass off. Everybody's bolting out of the building.
1:22:34Darius Butler:They're not sitting there listening to the PA guy talk about the 401k plan. Everybody wants gone.
1:22:42Pat McAfee:Yeah, I actually didn't sign up for the NFLPA the last two years of my career because I didn't want to sit in those meetings. Because I felt obligated to say something. Everybody's tired. I'm the partner. I don't need to be the one holding up this entire meeting. Everything you said is bullshit. Do you have any questions? I don't. I hate that I'm here. And then I just, I stopped going. So I stopped signing up for it. And I missed out on a Madden check or two. But at the end of the day, I feel like I wanted to be a part of it because it can be special. You talk about how much leverage they have.
1:23:11Pat McAfee:Think about all the businesses. And I put this in my very long tweet post about it. Think about how many businesses want to do business with the NFL. It's like the Players Association should be operating as an agency for players getting more money. Money, protection, opportunities. That is all we're looking for here for the players. Money, protection, and opportunities. You should be able to act and get deals done. You should be able to. I don't know. Jason Wright's the right guy for it. All right, Jage, we appreciate you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:23:43Darius Butler:Hold on. Big family. Yeah. Me, you, Derek, Teej, Omar, Coach T, the Roonies. We did it, brother. Congratulations. How do we feel? How do we feel? Come on. How's Teej feel? How do we feel? Come on. Give it to me. About the new jerseys? Those are – Did we see those yet? They're better than the Bumblebees. Okay. I hate them. Let's go to the next one.
1:24:07Pat McAfee:They're from 1933. That's what jerseys looked like. All right. I hate them. Let's go to the next one. That is cool.
1:24:13Darius Butler:How do we feel? We're done. We got it done, huh? We did it. How do we feel? How does Tej feel? I'm happy for him, man. One helmet guy. He's excited. He's extremely excited. It's a very rare thing in today's NFL, so it's really special. He's earned it. He deserves it, and couldn't be more proud for him.
1:24:30Pat McAfee:Did you see how jacked he looked? His right arm.
1:24:34Darius Butler:He gained weight. He looks huge. He looks very jacked. Did he change anything, Tej? I mean, he's in a great spot. I know he feels extremely good. He's been training his ass off. Is that a thigh?
1:24:46Pat McAfee:What the hell's hanging off his right shoulder? God, man.
1:24:51Darius Butler:Yeah, he's in a good spot. He's really excited about camp. He's looking forward to being back with the boys. It's going to be great.
1:24:57Pat McAfee:Herbig's awesome, man. Just awesome. Great moxie. The guy that's with TJ in his picture.
1:25:01Darius Butler:Herbig's great. Underrated. Herbig, very underrated.
1:25:04Pat McAfee:I hope Herbig has a massive year so that the world gets to know him a little bit better. He's a dog. TJ, though, looks unbelievable. unbelievable congrats your entire family uh i'm happy to hear that wasn't just a cheat meal for you that was for the whole group and congrats on espanol congrats on espanol did he learn to speak
1:25:23Darius Butler:i am uh i'm i'm working on my catalan and spanish we got a we got a dual language going on and i'm not fluent in either so i'm working hard on both of them but yeah we're very excited about espanol it's going to be a lot of fun uh gonna make some trips to barcelona we obviously are We're going to make it to Burnley. Bartholona! Bartholona!
1:25:44Pat McAfee:Bartholona! Bartholona! Bartholona!
1:25:47Darius Butler:We'll do a McAfee boys tour. We'll do Bartholona, and we'll do Burnley, and then we'll swing through the Berg, and then back home.
1:25:57Pat McAfee:That's actually not that bad. That sounds pretty sweet. So we'll call it the B tour. Killer Bs. We'll go through Bartholona, then to Burnley, then to the Berg, and then we'll come back home. You see? B, B, B, B, B, B. Quad B. That'd be great. This team sucks. What are we doing? I've never heard of this team. I've never heard of this team. Hey, I don't know what let's go is in Spanish. You were the same about Burnley. You were the same about Burnley. Don't worry. Vamos, Espanol. This is my team now. What league are we in? We're in the super-duper league over there? La Liga.
1:26:30Darius Butler:La Liga. Same as Real. Same as Real. Same as Real. Same as Barca. Hold on.
1:26:35Pat McAfee:Hold on. For now. We're here? Yeah. Aren't we normally? Don't we want to live? Don't we want to do this one and then get to here? And then we'll go, you bought, we're here?
1:26:47Darius Butler:Hey, you just lead Concafa. You go to the quarterfinals on a yearly basis and have your trip. Hey, make sure you're asking for more money from Man City for that goalie or they just got a billion-dollar deal from Puma.
1:27:03Pat McAfee:Puma just gave them all the money. And you're not the first person that Gumpy is told that you need to get more money from Puma. He was telling Tyrese Halliburton that on Friday. Have you seen this? Holding his phone up. You need to renegotiate with Puma immediately. They got a lot of money. Vamos Espanol. That's my team in La Liga, I guess.
1:27:20Darius Butler:Is that their catchphrase? What's their... Glad to have you aboard. We'll get some kits over to the boys soon. We got the blue and white in Spain. We got the claret and blue in England.
1:27:31Pat McAfee:What's the chant? Vamos.
1:27:34Darius Butler:Vamos. Working on learning it. Working on learning it. I don't even know the chant. What's their mascots? Is it the Clarets, too? We are the parakeets. Parakeets, like that. Parakeets. What the fuck's a parakeet? That's a little bird.
1:27:50Pat McAfee:That's a canary, I believe. Same thing.
1:27:53Darius Butler:Don't parakeets teach them to speak? Like Twitter, that's the parakeet? Yeah, kind of. That's just a bird, I think. You mean like... Well, it's dead. No, it's eggs, I guess. We've got a beautiful stadium over there. We've got a beautiful stadium. I think we should try and get an NFL game in RCD Stadium.
1:28:08Pat McAfee:i don't want you to pay put together a bid you're the owner putting that out in the universe putting that out in the universe right now okay so how many people are in on this we know dude was perfect was in all burnley yeah is it same group buying this one yeah same group alan pace uh leads the
1:28:22Darius Butler:group he's he's doing a great job for us he's incredible what he does um he bought burnley and now um has purchased espanol and we got a great great organization great system it's a lot look fun.
1:28:35Pat McAfee:Who's Alan Pace?
1:28:37Darius Butler:He's the head of our group. He does a great job. He runs the day-to-day of everything Burnley and Espanol.
1:28:44Pat McAfee:What do you do beforehand, though? You don't just fall to the position of buying teams for Tyler and J.J. Watt.
1:28:50Darius Butler:He's a very smart businessman. He's a very smart businessman. We need his ass at the NFLPA.
1:28:55Pat McAfee:He needs to stop buying up Espanol. We need his ass over there for the players. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. Yeah, baby, J.J.! He didn't really compliment TJ's arms much, did he? No, he didn't like that. Because I bet you he's probably.
1:29:09Darius Butler:They're not that big, dude.
1:29:11Pat McAfee:He's angling there.
1:29:12Darius Butler:TJ's doubled his career earnings, too. Yeah, I saw that.
1:29:16Pat McAfee:Which, by the way, thank God for the NFLPA.
1:29:19Darius Butler:Yep. They did it. They did it. They did it. Why does that guy just like to buy poopy teams in soccer?
1:29:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, I don't know. Gumpy, you'd know this better than us. I thought if you buy him like Wrexham did, Rob Mack and Boyce, down there at the bottom, and then it climbs up, it gains value. Then you try to sell that shit off whenever you go up, right? That's business plan if you're only looking at it as a business as opposed to a team that you love. It feels like JJ actually loves Burnley too, like very much so. You can see him get a little heat whenever we start bringing up how Burnley's doing. It feels like he's attached to them. But business-wise, he's bought both of these teams now when they're at the top leagues.
1:29:54Pat McAfee:That's interesting than what I've ever heard, right? Is that different or no?
1:29:57Darius Butler:I think with where he bought Espanol, they finished 14th in La Liga. so if you make the Conference League or the Europa League in UEFA now you'll get so much money and the way La Liga works there's only kind of the big dog so if you can get into that top 8 you're getting a shit load of money
1:30:14Pat McAfee:Alan Pace was like I got eyes on Espio
1:30:17Darius Butler:Do they ever play each other? How does this work? I don't get it
1:30:20Pat McAfee:They could get in Champions League They could
1:30:23Darius Butler:If they make it to the very top they could face each other Top 4 in each league, right? Top four, and then there's also Europa League and Conference League as well. So if you finish like top eight in your league, you'll get into one of those tournaments.
1:30:34Pat McAfee:And there's a chance Espanol and Burnley are dancing with each other in a JJ Waffle.
1:30:38Darius Butler:I would say more Espanol than Burnley, but yes.
1:30:41Pat McAfee:Oh, you think Espanol is ahead of schedule?
1:30:43Darius Butler:Espanol is a historic team in Spain. They've been around forever.
1:30:47Pat McAfee:Well, so it's Burnley, right? Burnley's like very old. Is this kind of JJ's thing? Like, hey, here's a good brand, cool brand. Maybe this is the one that we latch our wagon to?
1:30:54Darius Butler:Yeah, Burnley signed Kyle Walker, too, from Men's City. That was a pretty big sign. One of the greatest right backs in England history.
1:31:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, they're doing like a meth-y type thing with Burnley. Love that. Like an MLS type. Right? Isn't that kind of how they're doing? They're getting some legends over there? Like older legends coming to Burnley. Up the clorets. Okay.
1:31:15Darius Butler:I like that. Like Maurice? I like Maurice. And the jug that Scotty drinks out. Scotty probably didn't party last night. He just flew home.
1:31:22Pat McAfee:I appreciate it. He put that thing down. He gets it. Puts it down. Goes and gives his speech. Certainly supposed to hold that while you're giving a speech. Without a doubt. That thing's sitting on a table next to him. He's got hands on hips. Yeah. Thank you all so much. Turns out, checks his notes. Yeah, fucking hit everybody. Obviously. This guy's unbelievable. Is he not?
1:31:42Darius Butler:He's a freak. I guess for him, I just wonder what's going through his mind. Because I look at him like I looked at Tiger when Tiger was rolling. Like, of course he's going to win. Of course the guy doesn't feel any pressure. Of course he's going to hit. Like the first hole, like we said, his second shot goes to like three feet and he taps it in for Birdie to start the whole tournament or the whole final day. Like, I don't know. Like the guy's just not human right now. It's ridiculous.
1:32:03Pat McAfee:It's unconscious, but then he is more human than he's ever been. He's like giving more human answers than we've ever heard before from him and giving answers that we've never heard before from the top of the top. You know, the way everybody talks about the intensity and everything, the way they view it and the mindset you have to have to be great, to conquer all these mountains that you have to conquer every single day to become this damn good in this big of a moment it's like you got to be a real dog he is a real dog yeah scotty scheffler is a psycho i i would like everybody to understand that scotty scheffler whenever it comes to golf for his entire life has been a psycho about it had to be had to be to get to this point and the ability to be able to manage that and still be who he is i think golf is the perfect sport for that type of attitude obviously obviously tiger was a little bit different but how he's been able to do that.
1:32:50Pat McAfee:Even when he was getting arrested at his tournament. He's the number one player in the world. It's his tournament that he's showing up at, basically. He's getting arrested. He's like, where are we? Okay. Just completely cool. Imagine if that was... I don't want to start saying everybody's names. Imagine Peyton Manning gets arrested driving to a playoff game outside of the stadium. You think Peyton would be cool with everything, how everything would just go? Think about Tiger in the same situation, having that happen to him. What he would be like, Wayne Gretzky, I think maybe coolest goat that we've heard in a long time.
1:33:24Pat McAfee:If he was to get stopped right outside, I think that would affect you a little bit. He just no big deal. I'm going to stretch in jail, actually. It's just like, obviously, he's a very man full of faith and everything like that. And he says a lot about the Lord and Jesus Christ and everything, which I respect and appreciate. But here on earth, having to deal with all the adversity that he's having to deal with while leaning on that, Nothing but a hat's off. We are lucky to be around while this guy is around. I don't know how long this lasts. I have no idea how long.
1:33:51Adam Schefter:It seems like maybe forever. Hopefully. He fooled me this weekend. I thought, you know, when he was talking all the deep shit, because you mentioned it. You know, talk about all the greats, Peyton, Tom, Jordan, Tiger Woods. Like, they weren't speaking on any of this. They just spoke on dominating and killing the opposition. So, for him to be having those deep answers going into it. Do we have the video? Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's go to it.
1:34:13Darius Butler:it feels like you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament for like a few minutes it only lasts a few minutes that kind of euphoric feeling and i like to win the byron nelson championship at home i literally worked my entire life to become good at golf to have an opportunity to win that tournament and you win it you celebrate get to hug hug my family my sister's there it's such an amazing moment and then it's like okay now now what are we gonna
1:34:39Pat McAfee:eat for dinner you know life goes on this there's traffic outside we gotta win is it great to be
1:34:45Darius Butler:able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things i have in the game of golf yet i mean it it brings tears to my eyes just to think about because it's literally worked my entire life to become good at this sport and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment i think is is a pretty cool feeling you know to get to live out your dreams it's very special but at the end of the day it's like i'm not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers i don't i'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the best player in the world because what's the point you know this is not a fulfilling don't do it life it's it's fulfilling from a sense of accomplishment but it's not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest you know places of your heart you know there's a lot of people that make it to what they thought was going to fulfill them in life and then you get there and all of a sudden you get to number one in the world and they're like what's the point and you know i really do believe that because you know what is the point.
1:35:35Darius Butler:You're like, why do I want to win this tournament so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like showing up at the Masters every year. It's like, why do I want to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the Open Championship so badly? I don't know. Because if I win, it's going to be awesome for about two minutes. And then we're going to get to the next week and it's going to be like, hey, you won two majors this year. How important is it for you to win the FedExCup playoffs? And it's just like, we're back here again, you know? Um, so we really do, we work so hard for such little moments and, um, you know, I'm kind of a sicko.
1:36:06Darius Butler:I love putting in the work. I love being able to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams. But at the end of the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point, you know, because I don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but, um, am I not? It's just, it's just one of those deals. You know, I, I love the challenge. I love being able to play this game for a living. It's one of the greatest joys of my life, but does it fill the deepest wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not. What do you find fulfilling? I mean, I love playing golf. I love being able to compete. I love living out my dreams.
1:36:41Darius Butler:I love being a father. I love being able to take care of my son. I love being able to provide for my family out here playing golf. Every day when I wake up early to go put in the work, my wife thanks me for going out and working so hard. And when I get home, I try and thank her every day for taking care of our son. It's just, you know, that's why I talk about families being my priority because it really is, you know, I'm blessed to be able to come out here and play golf. But if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife or with my son, you know, that's going to be the last day that I play out here for a living.
1:37:12Darius Butler:You know, this is not the be all end all. This is not the most important thing in my life. And that's why I wrestle with, why is this so important to me? Because, you know, I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer. You know, at the end of the day, that's what's more important to me. When I sit back at the end of the year and, you know, I kind of try to reflect on things, like having that sense of accomplishment from winning the Masters Tournament, from winning the PGA Championship, I have a deep sense of gratitude and appreciation for it. But it's just hard to explain how it doesn't, it just doesn't satisfy, is how I would describe it.
1:37:46Darius Butler:It's an unsatisfying venture. And so I guess what I'm trying to say is this is not the place to look for your satisfaction. This is something that's where you can have a great appreciation for and a great amount of thankfulness for being able to do this. And it's, I mean, like I said, it's literally one of the most fun things that I can do in my entire life. I love being able to come out here and play golf and compete. But at the end of the day, it's just not what satisfies me.
1:38:14Pat McAfee:He says all that before winning the Open. He says all that before winning the Open. Whenever golf is an in-between-the-ears game, more so than any other sport because if you miss by that much, it's a shank. It's a whole different tournament. You've got to hit the thing pure every single time to know where you're going. And I am at a much different level than Scotty Scheffler at all things. Being human, it sounds like, being a father, being a husband. He checked all the boxes in there about how, hey, whenever we prioritize what's important at this stage in life. Now, if you were to ask him at 18, it's vastly different.
1:38:43Pat McAfee:Now he's generated a lot of capital. He understands what's available. He understands what life is. At this stage of my life, if you were to ask me what's important, it's this and this. Now this being great is an amazing thing. And there were some people that took it negatively, and that's always going to happen. I think what Scottie Scheffler just said was incredibly profound. I think it was amazing to hear the insight of what it's like to be one of the greatest of all time at something. And at a much smaller level, whenever I talked to Jim Irsay about retiring, I told him I was like, I thought, because I didn't really know how to punt when I got drafted to the NFL.
1:39:12Pat McAfee:So my entire chase was like, I want to become the best in the world at this. I want to figure out how I can become the best at this, the best at this, the best at this. I want to get better for my team every day at work. Every decision I was making was like, am I going to be a better punter or a worse punter because of this? Can I kick balls further because of this? And then I finally get to the point where I think, I don't want to speak out of pocket here, but I think everybody kind of realized that I became the best in the world at my jobs. I was doing multiple, kicking off, punting, and holding.
1:39:37Pat McAfee:We almost had two perfect seasons. So, like, I think all those things, I got to the point where some would consider me the best in the world at it. And I got up there and I was like, I thought I'd feel different. You know, I still still have diarrhea, still have traffic. My power still goes out of my house. Plumbing still an issue. I still have all these problems that I thought were just going to disappear if I became great at it. And I was very confused by that. I said that to Jim. I was like, that was a tough thing for me to kind of grasp. Because this thing that I was chasing was vastly different whenever I got there than what I thought it was going to be.
1:40:14Pat McAfee:And Jim, immediately, he had a vape. His vape smoke was going out. He could have been a professional vape blower, I think, with the amount of smoke. He said he was talking to one of the Beatles. I think it was Ringo Starr. He said, I was talking to Ringo, brother. And he said they got all the way up to the top. And they stayed up there. And at some point, you're at the top of the mountain. you look around and you go, this view isn't as good as it was. Why did I, this view is nowhere near what I thought it was going to be. Whenever I was puking on the way up here, when I was sacrificing my entire life on the way up here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments, I get all the way to the top of the mountain.
1:40:52Pat McAfee:Cause this is what we're trying to get to. And the view is not worth it. Just not worth it. So now what do you do? Well, now you just got to hang out up there and look at something that you almost feel is like a regret because this is what you chose to focus on. And he said, but what the people at the top of the mountain and forget is that there was a time when he couldn't see that view and the view kind of gets lost behind the mountain and then every once in a while you see a reset people kind of get reset you get dropped back down and then all of a sudden it's like wait a second that view wasn't that bad then you come back and he said it's very natural in like people's lives so i wonder if that'll happen for scotty inevitably i'm not saying it's going to happen anytime soon obviously he's incredible but inevitably it feels like whenever you get to the top of the mountain you're not always going to be able to remain fulfilled you're not always going to be remain uh satisfied everybody has to find something to continue to work for that's why like nick saban whenever he wakes up every day bill belichick every day that mamba mentality at acoba kobe every day it's unique it is a very very unique thing that i think a lot of people from a lot of different fields struggle with and i think scotty's in the middle of it like i've sacrificed my entire life to be this guy and it's amazing and then all of a sudden uh bennett just blew up his diaper okay we need some wet wipes here we need to move on i'm still a human i've loved everything he said yeah it was perfect
1:42:03Adam Schefter:and that's why i think a lot of people you know find other things like you know like even like ayahuasca so find like okay what's the true meaning of this but like when you have you know you have kids and you know you reach all those different pinnacles whether it's drafted whether it's signing a hundred million dollar deal or doing whatever it is and then you realize okay there are things that are much more fulfilling but you rarely hear that from a guy that's entering his prime. Dude, he's like 29. You heard Kobe, God rest his soul. He was that guy kind of towards the end of his career after he was done.
1:42:32Adam Schefter:But it's usually when guys are old and washed up and it's kind of behind him and looking back. You rarely hear a guy speaking like that when they are at the pinnacle. I love everything about what he's doing. Obviously, on the course and then off the course as well, I think it's a great message, not only to athletes, but just to everybody.
1:42:47Pat McAfee:I think so too. AJ, do you think this is potentially a little mental game he's playing with himself? I think it's... Like, hey, this ain't that important.
1:42:55Darius Butler:Yes. For sure. I think it's hugely beneficial, especially as a golfer. Because think of, I think that frees them up to go out there and play. Because, like, what's the worst that can happen? I'd lose this tournament? Cool. I still got my awesome life outside of this. And we know golf. Like, look at the stress that these guys are under every single shot. Like, say you're a dude that's a stud, but you're trying to get your first major or whatever. And you have the lead heading into the last day. You have to sleep on the lead and tee off at 3 p.m. Like, golf is a sport where you have to be free. You have to feel like you can let it go.
1:43:23Darius Butler:And I feel like Scotty, because of his mindset, because of his perspective, it frees him up. He's like, hey, man, yeah, I work my ass off all day, every day, but I understand this isn't who I am. But, yeah, it's awesome. How about I just become – I'll be the best dad and husband and the best golfer in the world. Let's see how many years I can make that go.
1:43:40Pat McAfee:Well, and Jordan Speaks saying he's able to turn it off when he goes home and everything like that, that's rare. Like, this dude's a rare – this is a rare mindset that people at the top have. And it might be a mental game, you know, to minimize golf in his eyes. Like, hey, we already have it all. You know, and the Nike ad was sick. You've already won.
1:43:57Darius Butler:So dope.
1:43:57Pat McAfee:But another major is nice or whatever it is. It's like it certainly is. That mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing. That could be a very good one, knowing that, hey, alternate plans here, go hang out with my kid. That's not a bad little fallback plan. But you talk about the guys trying to make it and how nerve-wracking it all is. There's stats came out, obviously, we all saw it. I think we posted in the first hour. That's 10 consecutive Sundays he's had to lead going into the day and he ends up winning. Only 27 more straight to catch Tiger Woods. Now, he's not even 30 years old, so this could happen, right?
1:44:29Pat McAfee:Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays where he woke up with the lead and ended up winning. That's unbelievable.
1:44:36Darius Butler:He was an assassin.
1:44:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's why that red shirt meant something. You know, when that red shirt showed up, it's like, this dude's either catching up because Saturday was moving day. Okay, so we're either catching up or we're taking the lead. And then Sunday, what are we doing? We're watching this jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down everybody. And it was like 37 straight times. Scotty only at 10. Now, he's young, so he's going to have to catch up. But it is crazy once you start putting the Tiger records in. It's like if Scotty's able to do this for another 15 years, there's a chance he can catch them. But that's what golf is.
1:45:06Pat McAfee:Golf is very much like a 50-year-olds can play professionally. Even shit, 60-year-olds can play professionally. It's a good sport whenever it comes to that.
1:45:14Darius Butler:Yeah, Tiger also had 11 majors at the same age as Scotty is right now. But Tiger, like when we're talking the men. What? 11 majors? Tiger had 11 at 28. But then he had that decade where some things happened and he didn't. So, Scotty, if Scotty in his 30s. There's that driver in the back window of the SUV. That glass shattered.
1:45:36Pat McAfee:Hit him in the head from the driver. He was at a driving range. Took the driver back like his. There was a car. Like I did with that TV. Yeah.
1:45:47Darius Butler:I think that's something like that. It was years ago. But Tiger mentally, I feel like Tigers like Kobe, like Jordan, like Tom, like Peyton, like guys that are just wired to be the greatest of all time. I feel like Scottie's wired like that, and I feel like him trying to get away from golf is better because we've seen runs like this with Spieth and Rory and Brooks, where they won four or five majors, but then it did feel like mentally it got to them. I mean, it took Rory 10 more years, and Spieth hasn't won again, and Brooks hasn't won again, but it does feel like if Scott is able to get away, it's a good thing.
1:46:21Pat McAfee:I'm going to admit, because of everything you just talked about mentally, when I heard him give that answer, just like – How was that? Yeah, I said, I don't know. I don't know if this weekend's the weekend for him. Yeah. It feels like he's thinking about too much. And then it turns out, looking back on it, it's like, nah, he's thinking about the right things. Yeah. He was thinking about all the right things going in. Is he ever going to lose?
1:46:39Darius Butler:I think – and like you mentioned it earlier, and it's no bullshit. I think he almost has to frame it that way because it hasn't been since Tiger where if you see him playing, there's an immediate expectation like, oh, he's going to win. And you don't get that with anybody else. So it's like you start to feel that pressure. It's like, hey, if I'm in the field, look at you, you go on any book. His odds to win are so much better than everyone else's. If he's playing in a tournament, the expectation is he might not go wire to wire, but he is winning this tournament. So even if you are as good as he is, you could see how that would eventually kind of get to you a little bit.
1:47:17Pat McAfee:Scotty, we appreciate you. Congrats. Congrats on the Open. Now he's a U.S. Open away from the Grand Slam. We assume that'll come at some point this weekend. Probably. Yep.
1:47:30Pat McAfee:A new podcast series from ABC Audio in 2020 goes inside a case that has captivated the nation. To many people, Luigi Mangione is a modern-day Robin Hood.
1:47:41Darius Butler:People were cheering the demise of this person they'd never met who was a father of two and a husband and had a life and was just doing a job. From the manhunt ending in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, to what authorities
1:47:56Pat McAfee:are saying about a possible motive. I'm ABC News legal analyst Brian Buckmeyer.
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1:48:11This past weekend, we saw some filthy football.
1:48:14Pat McAfee:the NFL flag championship took place this weekend and there were some great highlights debuts did you see what the boy from the bills did did you see what the boy from the bills did ladies and gentlemen Brady Vaughn skiller to Sean Finnegan to win the game bobbles the snap oh shit he's down there somewhere yes he is Sean Finnegan goes up to catch the Hail Mary big win for the bill squad over there at the NFL flag championships. Now there was another highlight right down the sideline. One-handed grab. How you doing? Keep it moving. This is from Jalen Paguero. Give me that. Fingertip catch. Now a lot of people are saying the gloves are great nowadays.
1:48:59Pat McAfee:That's not Jalen's fault. No. That is not his fault at all. What a grab. What a snag. What a play. Shout out to Jalen Paguero. And then the highlight of the weekend, then this dude is going to be a West Virginia Mountaineer. Bryson Wright. Give me that of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Liam Cohen is trying to get him on the actual Jacksonville Jaguars. What a catch. Unbelievable. Inverted. The right-hand invert catch is a filthy catch all by itself. If you're standing there playing catch with somebody and you have gloves on, or if you're able to do it without gloves, the right-handed overtop snag will steal the show.
1:49:39Pat McAfee:okay if you do need a good throw to be able to do it but if you do that just playing catch people be like holy shit what a catch that's filthy because the amount of power you have to have in your hands to beat gravity and the force of it throwing and the the dexterity to find the tip of the ball yes i was very good at this this one right here because it was a holding you know that thing's right there always looked much better and harder than it actually was once you figure out how to do it then to dive over a guy for a touchdown while that kid is being thrown from 50 yards or 20 yards 30 yards away that's nasty that is absolutely filthy this kid's 15 16 years old 15 16 years old this dude is unbelievable 6 2 what is he i saw 6 2 200 pounds as a sophomore high school 15 years old already holds offers from lsu ohio state alabama and i would like to say Shout out to Hayes Fawcett, by the way.
1:50:34Pat McAfee:He does great work over there on three. I would like to say, Bryson Wright, congrats on scholarship offer from West Virginia University. Wow. Official? Yeah, official. Okay. I don't know if I can do that. I did not ask Rich Rodriguez if that was cool, Coach Rod. But I would like to say, Bryson, you officially have an offer from West Virginia University, brother. I have no idea what the NIL thing is going to be four years from now when you graduate high school or two years from now when you graduate high school. But just know if you want to come to Morgantown, brother, and do a couple of highs or a couple of those, we'd love to have you.
1:51:06Pat McAfee:Sophomore in high school. That's crazy. How about that Atkinson kid? He's going to play high school right now. Yeah. That Atkinson kid that was here. How about Manny over there in Maryland? Yeah, bingo. That offensive lineman? Yeah. All these guys that we're watching, and some of them were lucky enough to be a part of their commitments, which is such a cool thing. These dudes are adults, bro. And they're handling business like adults off the field as well. I have massive respect for this next generation of footballers.
1:51:30Darius Butler:I saw he led his football team last year as a freshman in receiving yards. And one of the guys who was in second was a five-star who went to, I think, Texas or Ohio State or something like that this year.
1:51:42Pat McAfee:This kid's from Pennsylvania? Is he? Yeah, no, he's a masked guy.
1:51:48Darius Butler:He moved down to Florida. He's from Massachusetts? No, he is not. He's a masked guy. He moved down to Florida, I believe, right after he learned everything.
1:51:55Pat McAfee:AJ, I mean, think about this as a sophomore in high school. The kid that's on defense. Yeah, right.
1:52:00Darius Butler:Not even fair to think this kid's going to be playing against high school kids here in a couple weeks. I mean, the kid covering him in his route plays left tackle for his local team. Mandarin in Florida. Three guys covered him on that particular play.
1:52:11Pat McAfee:They all passed off. Smart play. You, you, you, you, you, you. Everybody's zoning flag?
1:52:16Adam Schefter:I mean, yeah, if this dude's on the field, zone, double T, whatever the hell you can do. But this is unbelievable. When you talked about these, and he's not at this point yet, but these young kids sounding and speaking and carrying themselves like grown-ass men. We all talked about and expected, and everything is blown up about the negative part of the NIL. But every young guy that we've kind of come across, whether it's Ryder Lyons or Atkinson who's in here, you're talking to them, you're having a conversation with them, they sound like grown-ass men. 25 years. Well, way more mature than I was at 17 or 18 years old.
1:52:48Adam Schefter:It's unbelievable.
1:52:49Pat McAfee:And then you're making plays like that.
1:52:51Darius Butler:That's why the eighth-grader scholarship thing, it sounds insane. and then you see some of these kids and what they can do on a football field or on a basketball court, whatever it is. And then it makes sense why these kids get offered 30 scholarships when they're in eighth grade because they are clearly head and shoulders.
1:53:08Pat McAfee:Shout out to the NFL flag championship too. There's highlights all over the place. A lot of great football happening, AJ. Do the boys play yet? And daughters play? They had a girls flag tournament as well.
1:53:17Darius Butler:My daughter wants to play, actually. She's big into basketball. But, yeah, she's played a little bit back when she was younger. But, I mean, we know girls flag football is becoming huge. but obviously boys as well this is what they do like there's high school circuits where you travel around and you have these all-star teams like you're an aau team going around playing flag
1:53:32Pat McAfee:football great for the game and uh the girls high school flag football uh mission was the super bowl commercial that was lucky to be a part of yeah i think it has been commissioned in a lot of states i think it has been made an official that's great for the sport that's great for a lot of these towns that's great for obviously a whole generation of girls growing up you know watching And I don't want to always make it about Taylor Swift, but Taylor Swift has welcomed a lot of people into football. Having an opportunity to play football as well at the same time, it's perfect for the sport. And think about what flag football can be.
1:54:09Pat McAfee:It can be worldwide. Oh, you need some flags and a ball. It's in the Olympics already, but you're talking about that can really.
1:54:17Adam Schefter:On a collegiate level, getting scholarships, that'll be a thing. Absolutely. things going forward.
1:54:21Pat McAfee:It's not going to take over tackle football. That's what every old tackle football fan says. That's what Roger Goodell wants to know. Different sports. Different sports. Got to keep those things different. We'll continue digitally. YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice about change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Really hit that one fresh out of break there.
1:54:41Adam Schefter:Yeah. Big time.
1:54:42Pat McAfee:It's been a good summer for us.
1:54:44Adam Schefter:Great summer.
1:54:45Pat McAfee:A lot of... I've seen the tweets and the mentions. about you guys used to never take this many days off we agree it's been great yeah it has been hasn't it without a doubt it's awesome oh my god we're living yeah we really are we're humans right now aj it is i thought you're hitting good hitting bombs on the golf course actually training pots huh look at you or was that brother i've been golfing a little bit i've been golfing a little bit i played i played three rounds this year i hadn't played in two years obviously but even having the capability. Now, three rounds. I played nine holes, I played 13 holes, and I played 18 holes.
1:55:20Pat McAfee:Walk the 18 holes, though. Walk 18? Walk 18. You played great. Was given no other option. Interesting little...
1:55:28Darius Butler:Those nice places tend to do that.
1:55:29Pat McAfee:No. There was carts. Oh, really? The person I was golfing with... I was in a cart. The person I was golfing with... You didn't walk? No. Set up the carts.
1:55:38Adam Schefter:What is that about?
1:55:39Pat McAfee:The person that I was golfing with set up the carts and was like, you guys can use the carts. An immediate alpha type move. It was awesome. It's like I'll fucking walk. Are you walking? Is that what I just heard? He goes, yes, I'm walking but you guys use the cart. I'm like, I'll walk, dude. He goes, you don't have to. I walk out here every day. I'm like, I will walk. So I walked and I'll tell you what. Whole six, those blisters really started. You know, all those shoes. I had Jays on too and I've only played three rounds in two years. These things not really – I started getting blisters on the feet about sixth hole or so.
1:56:18Pat McAfee:Legs started getting real lactic acid-y around like 13, 14. I mean, you're hiking these things. Oh, yeah. But did you feel warm with the course? I did. And I also played better. Okay. And it kept me more locked in. Okay. I enjoyed it, actually. I would like to do that every time I golf. And it wasn't that long of a round. That's the thing.
1:56:33Darius Butler:It was only three hours. We played very fast.
1:56:35Pat McAfee:It was very, very fast. That's the best. It was good, though. I've been playing pretty good golf, AJ. Pretty good golf. You don't move your feet. I tried to be Scotty Scheffler, but can't be, I guess. No. I just can't be Scotty Scheffler. Not everyone can, no. So I've been keeping the feet still, you know, and that's really changed a lot of my game. Literally all I focus on is don't move your feet. Because last time, you know, because I'm all flexible, I'm not here.
1:56:57Adam Schefter:Yeah.
1:56:58Pat McAfee:You know, I'm digging in. You're still coming out of the pocket? I'm ready to do it. Yeah. What you see is because I've watched. Are you Kyle Wasaw? I'm Keewa Saw. So, so much Keewa Shallon, I've been watching. I think feel versus real, two different things. But I think just osmosis-y watching Key with Shallow's techniques, I think it's starting to kind of –
1:57:19Adam Schefter:You look like it's Key of Shallow. Yeah, thank you. This one was pumped. I'd take you over Key of Shallow any day.
1:57:25Pat McAfee:Do not. He's a good player. I would say that's a bad idea. Is he? Have you seen him play?
1:57:29Darius Butler:I played a hold with him, yeah.
1:57:31Pat McAfee:So you know what he has that I don't? A hammer?
1:57:36Adam Schefter:Whoa. Other gimmicks? What the fuck? He's – How big is this? Unbelievable. This guy's unbelievable. I'm assuming Keeba doesn't have that.
1:57:43Darius Butler:Yeah, I would assume Keeba Shalo.
1:57:47Pat McAfee:He could throw it over his shoulder. By the way, this guy hits a golf ball. I understand. I'm not taking any offense. Unbelievable. But with that being said, he does have a hammer. We can tell by the way he operates. I can tell everything about him. There he is with his hammer, actually. And that's small. He was actually pretty comfortable with that in his hands. this guy has helped me out immensely just by watching he should be charging for these videos because that's what i used to do right there you ever use your hammer like this absolutely not that's not how i swing that thing use a hammer like this he says and i get the driver in my hands and then bang baby draw just like he was shallow and oh god see you into the night sky perfect perfect shot and the reason why i didn't put the tracker on is because that green tree line in the back is the perfect background for that ball to fly perfectly out there.
1:58:39Pat McAfee:He knows the distance of his clubs. You see, I had a lot of that. We're 107 yards out. I got a 54 in here. I got a W in here. I got a 60 degree in here. How far do these go? No idea. Let's find out on the course with real shots. So we're doing a lot of that. Do you hear it? A couple I thought to myself, I've done this a thousand times. Fucking ear to ear, buddy. And I thought to myself, what does full swing go? I have no idea. Ear-to-ear swing, I have no clue. Just got to play more. Yeah, we don't have to. Actually, we have had. Yeah, I was going to say. It's been pretty long. The way you played, you should play more.
1:59:17Darius Butler:Yeah, and you should play with the caddy every time.
1:59:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, Steve was a dog. That was my first time ever playing with a caddy. That was awesome.
1:59:23Darius Butler:I loved that experience.
1:59:25Pat McAfee:Steve was great. Steve was a caddy there. Are we supposed to say the name of the place? I think you can.
1:59:31Darius Butler:Yeah, you definitely could.
1:59:32Pat McAfee:Okay, so we played someplace you're not supposed to. No, this isn't. Yeah, we should. That's just one place.
1:59:37Darius Butler:It was the nicest golf course I've ever played in my life. We should probably say it.
1:59:40Pat McAfee:Riviera. We played at Riviera over there in, I think, Los Angeles somewhere.
1:59:45Darius Butler:Yeah.
1:59:45Pat McAfee:I have no idea where we were. All I know is everywhere is a two-hour drive. Santa Monica. I think it was – I think I put it in the GPS.
1:59:52Darius Butler:It's in the Palisades area.
1:59:53Pat McAfee:Okay. Yes. Beautiful course. Yes. Very, very, very, very nice course. Very nice course.
1:59:58Adam Schefter:Perfect weather, I assume.
1:59:59Pat McAfee:Perfect weather. Great sun. I mean, it was a perfect day, to be honest out there. The wind transfusions were great. It wasn't busy. Yeah, it was very nice, dude. It was very nice. The dog. And then you're watching Ari Gold play golf.
2:00:12Darius Butler:Oh, yeah. Okay. He's playing. Yeah, that's a big one. I would assume he's very good. Very good. So good. I think par. At that course. Really? Probably just never hits any bad shots, I'm guessing. Exactly.
2:00:27Pat McAfee:His driver, he has this really patient swing, is what I'll call it. just like up high and then boom right to 285 right there perfect draw with it okay good tempo 285 yeah not a big mayor tempo time at all yeah tempo is his thing i think that would kind of be it yes and then he gets his iron in his hands it's like can't have touch this thing and then he's two up in it and he's birdie putting basically every hole yes and it's just two foot it's unbelievable because early wanted to talk shit he wanted to talk shit to me he said i didn't know how to put a ball on a tee because there's a breeze and knocked it off so then i put the ball back on t he goes you only teach you how to put a ball in a fucking i know how to put a ball in a fucking tee and then i fucking nuked one great time to nuke one yep that was on the first tee there so that that held him off for a moment you know that held him off then he started teaching me how to putt but we wanted to talk shit to him i want to talk shit to him that's all i want out there for is like i would like to yeah talk shit couldn't motherfucker never he had two bad shots It's like a par three.
2:01:29Pat McAfee:He like pulled one into the sand. Yep. And then put it to like four feet. Get out. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Couldn't even see him. I don't think his little fucking head was. Couldn't even see him out there. Ball comes out. He was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. And I thought about it while he does all these meetings, I assume, out there. Oh, yeah. And he just. Because he doesn't really talk shit. He doesn't really talk shit about how he is at golf. He just kind of goes about his stuff. That's nice. Just keeps it moving. These are the good ones. Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden you look at him like, what are you?
2:01:57Pat McAfee:So I'm one under through six. Like, actually, dude, this guy isn't even like no mulligans. Just fucking here we go. Stress free. Yeah, casual. On the phone. Yep. He's doing Ari Gold shit.
2:02:09Darius Butler:Places like that, they sell dogs at the turn.
2:02:11Pat McAfee:It was so good. Yeah, we did get some dogs. We did.
2:02:14Darius Butler:Do you see Foxy's dog? I eat it the exact same way.
2:02:17Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, I learned something. I don't know why there's some big anti-ketchup narrative going on. From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the home of Heinz. Sure. The most delightful and delicious thing. 57 flavors. On earth. Ingredients. Put it on everything. I heard somebody say. 57? I don't know. 57 different somethings. Condiments. Natural things. Condiments is ketchup. I heard somebody say, I love ketchup. I put it on everything. Eggs. Put it on chicken. Put it on sandwiches. Yada, yada, yada. and then the person said, I would never put it on my hot dog though, ever. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
2:03:00Pat McAfee:Why would you not? Why do they do that? Yeah, what is it? I don't understand why that's such a big deal. Why is that such a big deal?
2:03:05Darius Butler:I think foodies, people that are foodies claim like, oh, ketchup, oh, you're so basic you're a loser. That's what it is. How many views on your tweet? I think it's like half a million. I grew up as the strictly ketchup like you guys did, but then once I tried the ketchup and mustard, I assume that's why, because it is better with both. Well, you could do one, yeah, but you should do ketchup. But I did see the outrage strictly about the ketchup, which was just...
2:03:30Pat McAfee:So Connor just put Foxy into the fire. Yeah. Ketchup only on hot dog thoughts, and then a beautiful photo of our H &M model right there. Did you know what was happening with this picture? I had no clue what he was doing.
2:03:45Darius Butler:I actually just took this for us because we were having a conversation, and then as soon as I looked at the photo, I was like, I got it. The world's got to see it. I'm not lying.
2:03:54Pat McAfee:I just legit turned around, and then he's like, hold the hot dog up. Connor immediately knew his head, goes, it's going platinum. That's what he thinks.
2:04:02Darius Butler:So I'd say the number one takeaway that everyone was saying is that it's like what five-year-olds do. And, like, I grew up my entire life. I thought the most American thing you could do is put ketchup on a hot dog. I learned all of this from this tweet. There were so many people calling me a five-year-old.
2:04:17Pat McAfee:It's got to be Chicago people, right? That's it. Just hating against Pittsburgh. Is that why you guys want your own thing? Like, we got the hot dog. And then people from Pittsburgh are like, we make it much better. And Chicago's like, nah, nah, nah. I think the propaganda goes more is we just put mustard and relish. We have a Chicago dog. We don't really call out people for having ketchup on it. I think it was a lot of Chicago people probably, if I had to guess, calling out Fox. For the most part. With that being said, shout out to Chicago people. I got no problem with Chicago people. But I do think just having an argument that something that makes everything better isn't good on a hot dog just doesn't make any sense to me.
2:04:52Pat McAfee:I'm from Pittsburgh, though.
2:04:53Adam Schefter:You're an asshole if you put ketchup on your eggs. I agree. See, I don't think... Absolutely. What? Ketchup is unbelievable on eggs. Ketchup doesn't belong on eggs. Are you serious? That is terrible.
2:05:04Pat McAfee:Dude, you order six scrambled eggs with the cheese inside the scrambled. Now, American if available. But some places you go to, they're not going to have American cheese. Which I don't love. Yes, so cheddar is automatically the alternative. And you say, is cheddar okay? You go, do you have American? It's America. And they say, no, we only have cheddar. You go, that'll do, I guess. What about moths? And then they put the cheddar in there. Then that thing comes out, and you just go ahead and you put a big blob of ketchup right there on the side of it. Yeah, and you dip. You dip. It's gross.
2:05:34Darius Butler:Stupid. I'm a believer ketchup doesn't belong on breakfast food. Boom. Or buy, like, homestyle potatoes. Hash browns? Okay. You don't do ketchup on hash browns?
2:05:43Pat McAfee:And I love ketchup. You're telling me McDonald's hash brown comes in in that little bag.
2:05:48Darius Butler:That thing is so good by itself, it doesn't need anything else. It is. That's true. Agreed.
2:05:51Pat McAfee:You can eat it raw if you'd like.
2:05:52Darius Butler:I'm sure I would love it with ketchup, but I've just always had a rule. It doesn't belong at the breakfast table.
2:05:56Pat McAfee:Oh, see, I like to wake my day up with Heinz. I will put that shit on. I get that. I respect you. Hot sauce. Do you do hot sauce on eggs? Oh, yeah.
2:06:03Darius Butler:No. For sure.
2:06:04Pat McAfee:I do not. Hot sauce on eggs with ketchup. Kachot sauce on everything that's available, including the dino nugs that my daughter loves.
2:06:10Adam Schefter:If you've got some good eggs, they don't need anything. It's like a good steak. Like, you don't put, well, you know, A1 sauce here. Well, you could, though. Unless you're a six-year-old.
2:06:21Pat McAfee:Kirk Herbstree will certainly excuse me do you got the
2:06:26Darius Butler:well he has to though because he orders his steaks medium well if I remember correctly because him and the dogs are eating the same eat it with applesauce it is well done
2:06:36Pat McAfee:well well hi me, Peter, Theo, Mitch we need steak we'll all take can we get some A12 and also don't tell the chef a little ketchup I'll order fries if I have to You'll get fries, ketchup? Of course, yeah Of course
2:06:55Adam Schefter:What about nugs?
2:06:58Darius Butler:You dipping nugs in ketchup? No, nugs Cachat sauce
2:07:02Pat McAfee:Franks, you put a circle of Heinz Circle of Heinz Franks, in the middle of that Dump it Fill up the volcano Then we Heinz on top of it. Then he'd go ahead and take a little fork, spoon, whatever. We whipped that thing. Now you got kachat sauce. Welcome to heaven, brother. Now you got those dino nugs going. Right down in there. And all of a sudden it's the greatest. I sent an email to Heinz. I think I was in high school. You'd have to ask my dad what year it was. He found the email for me. Told him I got an idea. I got an idea. You guys are good. Not great. we can make you great kachat sauce sent it and then like two years three years later they had a full line of we got green ketchup we got purple ketchup we got hot sauce ketchup we got all this it's like of course they thought of it way ahead of me i wasn't the first person ever thinking that but what i'm saying is i felt like bobby floy whenever i uh started that and it still holds up still holds up okay you should try it i'll try it sure they're mayo and ketchup oh fancy sauce Oh my god What
2:08:17Darius Butler:Give it to Caboli Shut up Hawk I'm not the target audience I get it so I'm not jumping in Yeah you don't eat anything so I don't need to hear it from you I like plain stuff I like ketchup on hot dogs For sure hot dog ketchup only Nugs I'm definitely dipping them in ketchup But eggs no eggs straight up
2:08:35Pat McAfee:Okay
2:08:37Darius Butler:That's kind of I mean that's tough to argue Do you use hot sauce for anything I do more now the older I get I would say I'm into hot sauce No you do plain wings don't you I get hot sauce Dry rub you do dry rub
2:08:52Pat McAfee:You say give me a little bit of that local dry rub
2:08:53Darius Butler:If they're there those are good I want them hot medium to hot
2:08:57Pat McAfee:We had some little lemon pepper fresh out of wing stop That was very good Dry rub too right They were just plain Those were so good They were very good actually I'm a Franks guy over all the other hot sauces. Same. Tabasco a little bit too watery. I guess every place has their own hot sauce. Give me the Franks. Give me the Franks until I die.
2:09:17Darius Butler:Nick always steals the Tacholas or whatever they're called. Not anymore. Who is it? Cholula.
2:09:22Pat McAfee:Cholula. That was started in like a guy's basement, I think, if I do recall. It's the Mexican one?
2:09:26Darius Butler:All the great ones are. He's good at it.
2:09:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was great.
2:09:28Darius Butler:A good basement, I guess, for brewing that stuff.
2:09:31Pat McAfee:That had a good run, I think. Cholula had a really good run. That was during Fireball Whiskey Run, too?
2:09:35Darius Butler:Probably.
2:09:36Pat McAfee:If I think. if I'm recalling at the same time. I think I met Mr. Cholula and Fireball. Mr. Fireball. Mr. Ball. I think so. If my memory serves me. You might be the same person. I think so. Was it Cholula whiskey? I'm not even sure. Anyways, ketchup deserves and belongs on a goddamn hot dog.
2:09:57Darius Butler:Thank you. Do you like relish, Pat? Do you like relish on a hot dog? I'll do it. I'm not a relish guy at all. You're into relish or you're not.
2:10:05Pat McAfee:No, I'm not into relish. I hate relish. Yeah, but I would do it if said... You got to remember, I went to Plum Community Days. Okay? Where there's a hot dog guy who was an artist. This guy was an artist. I helped him set up his fucking rig every single year. No questions asked. He was great. Tip, tip, tip, tip, flip. What about a hamburger, though? He put ketchup on a hamburger, right?
2:10:24Darius Butler:Or cheeseburger. I hope you put ketchup on a cheeseburger. Yes. He just said he puts ketchup on everything.
2:10:30Pat McAfee:What do you mean? Do you even have burgers anymore? You just have little thin steaks with cheese on top of it. That's what you have. You don't even have a burger anymore.
2:10:38Darius Butler:Oh, no. I love a cheeseburger by putting ketchup on it, no question.
2:10:41Pat McAfee:Are you putting that in a wrap or are you putting it in a lettuce wrap? What are you doing?
2:10:44Darius Butler:I'll either eat it on a bun or I'll get like four hamburgers and just put ketchup all over all of them and eat them with a fork.
2:10:50Pat McAfee:Oh, like a meatloaf. Yeah.
2:10:52Darius Butler:That is like a meatloaf. I'm not touching meatloaf. That's disgusting.
2:10:55Pat McAfee:Well, ketchup on meatloaf, by the way. That's a whole other. That's actually one of the main ingredients of meatloaf. You said you're not touching meatloaf?
2:11:01Darius Butler:Meatloaf I will not touch. and don't worry, I'm sure you're going to tell me, oh, my mom or my aunt is the best ever. Well, congrats. I don't want it.
2:11:08Pat McAfee:My mom didn't start cooking until recently. Is it meatloaf? Is it a cheeseburger
2:11:12Darius Butler:in the shape of a loaf? It's literally what it is. No, it's a bunch of weird, nasty stuff in there. It's just the consistency. Yeah, I've never been a meatloaf guy, ever. If it's cooked right, it's good. It's got to be cooked right. I've only had it once. I'm with you, Gums. Everyone takes so much pride in their own meatloaf. No, you've got to try my meatloaf. Well, I don't. Like I said, if it's cooked right, it's good. Turds cooked right don't taste good. Meatloaf is not a turd, bub. Similar. Might as well be. It's all your favorite things. How about this, AJ? Go ahead, please. Ground beef, egg, onion, milk, and seasonings, like salt and pepper.
2:11:49Darius Butler:You got milk in there?
2:11:50Pat McAfee:Okay, I'm out now. I didn't know milk was in there. Call me out on Meatloaf. I didn't know. Do you smother it in gravy? I just smother it in ketchup every time. I love this. You don't like milk? Tastes so good. Love ketchup with meat. the meat. I don't want to do it. Sloppy Joe?
2:12:04Darius Butler:Sloppy Joe.
2:12:05Pat McAfee:Love Sloppy Joe. You know, I watched a guy order a bucket of mashed potatoes for dinner at a five-star steakhouse the other night. Friday night. Nope. Just a bucket of potatoes. That's it. Nothing else. Potatoes. Serving spoon as his utensil. That's real. This is really nice. It was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Thought the waiter forgot something. held up eating. Then I watch person take serving spoon and fucking dive right into that thing and start mixing it up. Is that your meal? I'd have a beer with that guy. This is my meal. Is there any chives on there? Had sour cream.
2:12:46Pat McAfee:Ask somebody else to take it off. Had somebody else take it off. Great move. You want some sour cream? How much sour cream? So much. It was like one scoop. It was a bucket, so you've got to have it in proportion. and so there's a fucking scoop of sour cream on top of that he wants to take some hand it over take off the sour cream bring it back serving spoon in the mouth this is your meal don't you worry about my food pat well i am a little bit is it is this is the whole table eating from this or just you this is my meal stop talking about my food you know that man was john halliburton that was tyrese that was tyrese halliburton's dad he is the most electrifying human i have ever encountered i've never got a chance to hang out with him i got to hang out with him at the wmba uh contest night hour 15 minute show did not expect that so we still had some time we go get dinner across the street at prime shot the prime setting us up in this like back room area more so shut up uh set up tyrese for sure especially for him to roll in there but that's kind of his place and i sat right next to john halliburton and i laughed for two hours straight i mean i i yeah Yeah, you can definitely.
2:13:55Pat McAfee:Here's me and him. He is the man. I cannot. They need to apologize to this man. They need. Instead of kicking him out. You know they have me on the microphone some of these games. The NBA should have him on a microphone full time whole game. He should be mic'd up for every single. On ESPN. This guy is fucking unbelievable. That's his. Can we zoom in on that photo? That's just a tub of mashed potatoes. Nothing else. That's his meal. That is a big old spoon. Yeah, you can see that's a serving spoon. Serving spoon, yeah. So I asked the waiter, I go, just can you clarify something? Why did you put a serving spoon?
2:14:30Pat McAfee:He goes, don't talk. Stop asking this man, this guy, John, as I'm doing this. Why did you give him a serving spoon? Why did you do that? And he goes, well, I thought obviously it was for the whole table. Of course you did. Everybody thought that. Even the guy that was bringing it to me, he said, don't you worry about what I'm, I'm not worried about what you're eating. I'm like, I'm eating chicken parmesan. This is standard. He is, this guy is the greatest. I'm so thankful I got to sit next to him. weapon dude weapon got a chance to chat more about the entire situation that happened of course obviously wasn't thrilled about how it all went didn't like you know done love that that's the attention towards tires but he does have a side you know sure definitely has his side of things on uh on everything i love them they need him they need john next year to maybe dress for the
2:15:15Darius Butler:baseball that's not a bad idea maybe at least one at least warm up like romo did that one game Do that.
2:15:20Pat McAfee:Hit a couple of these.
2:15:22Darius Butler:Yeah.
2:15:22Pat McAfee:Doesn't swear. Doesn't drink. Doesn't smoke. Never has. None of it. Has the confidence of a, I don't know, 25-year-old prize fighter. Okay.
2:15:34Adam Schefter:He ran up on Yannis.
2:15:36Pat McAfee:He did not. If he was to explain the story, he didn't even know. He was just in his zone. You know, he was in his zone. Yannis happened to be there. Then there was a whole situation. You know, everybody. he's the man Tyrese will be in here tomorrow hopefully John will stop Mr. Halliburton if you're coming by we will have a fucking bathtub of mashed potatoes leave that man alone Pat John told me about a couple things and he's right this guy deserves to get murdered leave that man alone Pat thank you John I needed to hear that actually
2:16:19Darius Butler:Well said.
2:16:19Pat McAfee:That is very, very good. I am proud of me. Obviously, I tweeted it publicly because I just wanted it to be out there. Like, hey, there was another war that was... averted? Yeah. Was that a word? Yeah. So I just want to let people know. Hey, this is growth. I don't know if it would have been a war. Evolving. Yeah. There would have been people on his... I mean, it's just... You just... I'm dropping into a...
2:16:45Darius Butler:It's kind of more like a public execution, though.
2:16:47Pat McAfee:Bug windshield. The boys did see everything I was going to say about who I was going to say. It was some of my finer work. Not my greatest. I have some emails that are better. But these, you know. It was pretty good. I felt pretty good about it. I had time. Baby girl was sleeping. I was home alone. Wife was out of town. Just kind of hanging there. It was from some time ago. And I didn't know this happened. Sending it in the group. What's this? What is this all about? Get some intel. Is that right? Let me go ahead and see if this is who I fucking think it is. Yep, that guy's messaged me a lot. Asking for a lot.
2:17:29Pat McAfee:It can't be that guy. Let me go back. Same guy. Sure is. Interesting. Let me learn about this guy. He doesn't think I have time. 45 minutes deep dive into this guy's life. This guy has no idea how much I know about him. Can't wait to run into him. And it's like, yeah, all right. You said your piece. Now, I believe I should probably stick up for myself. Had an X version. Had an Instagram stories version. Had an Instagram post version. Okay? Really put some time into this. Threads? I don't do the threads. It's automatic. 600 million posts.
2:18:07Darius Butler:I was going to say everybody is.
2:18:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, people are saying, I saw a post saying threads has more active users than X. Yeah, 2 billion. Wow.
2:18:15Adam Schefter:Boom. Trillion, actually.
2:18:16Pat McAfee:Excuse me. That doesn't feel real. Does it? I saw Dana holding a microphone that said Threads. That might have been a part of his deal with Zuck. So maybe Threads is becoming. Didn't have a Threads. Was going to make a TikTok. Was going to record a video. Have a talk. Kind of piece it together. And I didn't. I said, you know what? Today's not the day. Send them all the drafts. Boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I put my phone down. Said people are allowed to feel the way they feel. Then I walked a little bit further. I said, I'm allowed to feel the way I fucking want to. I don't know. It's a good summer.
2:18:48Pat McAfee:We're having a blast. Shout out to the MLB. Shout out. Shout out to the ESPYs. That was a good time. Did we have more fun than anybody else at the ESPYs? Certainly.
2:18:58Adam Schefter:Great, great time. In Atlanta, MLB, my favorite part, and I forgot about this, was Ty. Not forgetting about the kids. Heading to the field. That point back. Coming back, signing all the crafts for who knows how long. I mean, good on you, man. First All-Star, congratulations.
2:19:17Darius Butler:Well, you know, we're just trying to grow it for the next generation. You know what I mean? Who am I to beat? You know, I was obviously trying to take everything in myself, my first All-Star experience, but I thought how special, you know, for one of these kids, you know, who's been waiting all day.
2:19:32Pat McAfee:That video is so far back in my library. I'm trying to scroll back and find it right now. You used to be those kids. So much since then.
2:19:38Darius Butler:Yeah, that was me. And I said, you know what, I ain't going to leave these kids standing here.
2:19:42Pat McAfee:I'm walking behind Ty as he's about to make his way onto the field for the first time, dressing his full regalia. And I just wanted to get him jogging on the field because I knew he was probably going to skip up over top of the chalk and everything. And instead, what I caught was just absolute magic.
2:19:59Adam Schefter:True moment in time.
2:20:00Pat McAfee:True MLB magic. I just texted it to you, Zito, so you can pull this up. Kiss and never forget it. Ever. You know, they talk about, a lot of people say, like, I remember Mickey Mantle stopped and said hello. Ken Griffey Jr. inspired me to become a professional athlete and treat people the right way. Well, Ty, you're kind of becoming that guy maybe for an entire legion of baseball fans with how you acted as an MLB All-Star. And I know that there was some blowback by the baseball purists for us. Sure. I think this video right here will kind of put it all at ease. We're trying to get back to the game.
2:20:33Pat McAfee:How about you, kid? Come on, get over here. Come on, I'll sign your ball, I guess. Mr. Schmidt! Mr. Schmidt! Yeah. Mr. Schmidt! Go Yankees! Mr. Schmidt. That's all they kept saying. Mr. Schmidt.
2:20:44Darius Butler:A lot of that. I saw one of those things hit eBay. $8 ,000 for a signed tie-shed. A couple of those, when I was signing them, I saw some of the other signatures on there. I was like, God damn. I really fucking shouldn't, but hey, guess what? I'm going to play the part. They think I'm an all-star. I'm going to do it. Hey, now. Yeah, exactly. You're an all-star.
2:21:05Pat McAfee:Sign the baseball. Go. Play. Which we did, didn't we? We did. Then they saw us out on the field. Those kids, what? Yeah, what are these guys doing?
2:21:13Darius Butler:No, they wouldn't have asked if they didn't want it. They didn't know who he was.
2:21:17Pat McAfee:We were coming out right from the clubhouse. Yeah. I mean, it was a setup for those kids. They had no hope. No, without a doubt. You had the hat on, the whole thing. Yep. They might have thought maybe you were a manager.
2:21:25Darius Butler:AO clubhouse, was the music still blaring in there?
2:21:28Pat McAfee:Did the AO win or lose? They lost. They lost the swing on. Oh, yeah, because we talked. We need the swing on.
2:21:35Adam Schefter:Yeah. Okay, I read my take.
2:21:40Pat McAfee:If it goes more than one extra inning, swing off.
2:21:42Darius Butler:Then swing off. I like that.
2:21:44Pat McAfee:Have a 10th inning of baseball. Gives the purists what they want. Then let's go to the swing off. And I think we only do two. I don't think we do three guys. I think it's two guys. One of them hits three times. One of them hits two times. Best of five. Well, not one guy.
2:21:58Darius Butler:I like one swing. I think that would be a swing. Because both guys you would assume could hit or both most likely miss. So then it's like, okay, we don't. Yeah, we know we're making it to the same. Same guy like Olympics with TJ Oshie? Bingo, yeah. It's swing for swing.
2:22:15Pat McAfee:Or do you have to go to a next batter? Do you have to line up who the batter is? Like soccer. No, just one. Just one batter.
2:22:20Darius Butler:Regular season hockey is how. One swing, three guys.
2:22:25Pat McAfee:One swing per guy. That's what you think.
2:22:28Darius Butler:Three guys.
2:22:29Pat McAfee:I think one guy, one swing. Let's fucking see what happens. Yeah, but then it's over before it even.
2:22:33Darius Butler:And you run into the potential of it being so anticlimactic if you do that.
2:22:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, it could be over so quick. We want to best of three, best of five. Don't you think?
2:22:43Darius Butler:I suppose. Personally, I think no matter what, if they make the change, they'll do just exactly what the NHL does, which is once it gets to the playoffs, the most meaningful stuff, they'll get rid of it, and they'll just do extras no matter what. Oh, yeah. They're definitely not doing that in the playoffs. World Series. Yeah. Game seven. Swing on. Shohei versus Judge. That'd be sick, but that is never going to happen.
2:23:05Pat McAfee:Well, that'd be the Astros. The first time ever. Yeah, you're right. Dong off champ.
2:23:10Adam Schefter:I wouldn't want that in the playoffs. In the playoffs.
2:23:13Darius Butler:I think the ones would be cool. I mean, they don't care about the climactic. It would be so sick, though, to watch Best of Three.
2:23:23Pat McAfee:We would all watch. Oh, yeah. I think we would all watch.
2:23:26Darius Butler:Dex would come into the group and say, hey, so-and-so's in a swingoff right now.
2:23:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, dong off happening right now. We would all see the highlight. We would talk about the clip the next day. A thousand percent. The clip would be massive. Just as somebody that's new to baseball, becoming a fan of baseball, you guys are already making changes in the rules anyways. I'm getting all the Sox games. I'm going to get into it. Like 13 innings? Is that good? Is that fun?
2:23:51Darius Butler:No. No. I mean, that's why they put guys on second base now to start extras because they don't want – It's already a gimmick. Yeah. They don't want games.
2:23:59Pat McAfee:You guys are already doing gimmicks. You guys put the fucking person on second base, Ghostrunner on second. Which sucks. Okay. It does. So you're already doing gimmicks. If we're going to do gimmicks, let's do fun gimmicks. Here's a better one. Boom, bang, and a pow. Have one inning, extra inning. Do your thing. Do the baseball. Good luck. Hope somebody wins. Go score. But then best of three, one swing per each, I think is the right play.
2:24:21Darius Butler:I like it. Maybe two innings.
2:24:24Pat McAfee:Gumps. You sleep two hours a night.
2:24:27Darius Butler:I'm just saying, though, as purists, I think if you said two innings, they'd take the bait on two. If you go one, I think they'd still be pissed off.
2:24:36Pat McAfee:Okay, four outs, one inning. I like that. I bet. I don't mind. I like that a lot.
2:24:42Darius Butler:That's good. That's a win. Okay. You guys already got the ghost man on second. Pierce can't be pissed about four outs. No way.
2:24:49Pat McAfee:We gave him more than that. That's cool. That is cool. How about pitcher has to throw alternate hand? Yeah.
2:24:58Darius Butler:Or pitcher is not allowed to throw any breaking balls. Yeah. Fastball.
2:25:04Pat McAfee:Does the other person have to throw? No.
2:25:07Darius Butler:No more strike zone. You know what? Forget the pitcher. Put it on a tee. Let him swing away.
2:25:12Pat McAfee:Would guys hit dongs off tees? Yes. Yeah.
2:25:16Darius Butler:That's a fair question. The speed coming in. I thought he was going to say no. Dude, if you put a fucking ball on a tee at home plate, Judge would hit it 9 ,000 feet. Judge. That's our guy. He wears a size 15 fucking shoe. Most guys would. Most guys would be able to take it out. Very far. I would assume so. Yes. Hitting a ball off a tee. These guys do so much tee work. So much tee work.
2:25:43Pat McAfee:So that's a dumb question.
2:25:45Darius Butler:Yeah, I mean, certainly. For a non-baseball person, not a dumb question.
2:25:51Pat McAfee:I assume they need it. Need the speed. Need the velocity. And then the BP, they're still throwing. Do adults hit off a tee?
2:25:59Darius Butler:They do in practice all the time. In the majors, yeah. Do they? Oh, yeah. It's a big deal.
2:26:03Pat McAfee:I've never seen it. We need to start doing that for next year. We need to start getting on the goddamn tee. We need to bring it. We need to start throwing some fucking. Yeah, see if they can do it. See if they can do it. All right, boys. Who can do it? Right before the home run derby starts. Boys, take a second to see if you can hit a dong off of this goddamn tee. The tee derby. Yeah, we're trying to find out. Those dudes were sweet over there. Yeah. Yankees have a game tonight?
2:26:27Darius Butler:Yes.
2:26:28Pat McAfee:What's up, Yankees?
2:26:29Darius Butler:Big one. in toronto good to see you dudes well who knows with it because they're in toronto so they might
2:26:34Pat McAfee:be watching on sports net today and not no they watch on youtube right right i believe so you can
2:26:39Darius Butler:catch the naughty language uh show plays on tsn in canada oh does it does it the sports network i didn't know that i believe espn owns them they do not no who owns the rogers who gave permission
2:26:55Adam Schefter:for that. Hold on.
2:26:57Pat McAfee:I have a question. Still to this day right now?
2:27:01Darius Butler:I'm pretty sure a lot of people watch on TSN back home.
2:27:03Pat McAfee:Can't wait to meet you people at TSN.
2:27:05Darius Butler:Well, no wonder the Canada stuff got so loud after.
2:27:08Pat McAfee:They know I exist up there. Golly. They shoved down their throats the next day. Oh, great. We got to listen to the fucking asshole. Hey, buddy, the fucking American asshole is on TV again. Jesus Christ. You think there was a chance old retired Trudeau was watching our show the next day? Hi, guys. Now he's watching other stuff. Well, now he's retired. Speaking of retired, Washington football team name was retired. Will the commanders be just another, oh, you remember when? Your president, AJ, may say even about the Washington whatevers. How do you feel? How do you feel about it?
2:27:43Darius Butler:I mean, this is, I don't know, have we ever seen a president before, like, dip his toe into the NFL waters on what a team should be named?
2:27:50Pat McAfee:Yes, and the reason why we know that is because there is a pre-presidential Donald Trump tweet saying shouldn't do that president shouldn't be doing that because uh president Obama at the time was I believe talking about the name of the Washington football team so I yeah there has been a little bit of dancing I guess and this is a wild thing especially if the stadium stuff gets held up you know and obviously the art of the deal president Trump is a deal maker that's kind of his entire thing everybody's hey well he got a rich dad it's like okay a lot of people have rich dads you're fired a lot of people have rich dads he's been able to make deals i think throughout his entire life it's kind of his thing um now do all of them uh withstand or or whatever it is i don't know i guess the i think not i think there's some deals that happen and don't happen and then i think that causes a lot of problems i think some people get real happy some people get real mad and then they just kind of go like this and And that's politics.
2:28:49Pat McAfee:Yeah. I think. That's how it works. But I think he can probably withhold funding. I don't know. I don't know all the ins and outs of being a president. He won't. All right. D-Buck says he won't.
2:29:03Adam Schefter:Politics, you just yapping.
2:29:04Darius Butler:Pause, Pat. I think a president. That's on truth social.
2:29:09Pat McAfee:Truth.
2:29:10Adam Schefter:Are you on there?
2:29:11Pat McAfee:I do not have an account over there.
2:29:13Adam Schefter:That's where you sent me the link from. You're probably battling with threats. I would assume.
2:29:16Pat McAfee:Well, I'm 600 million. active users on threads you know facebook's become interesting because i'll post on instagram or we'll post on instagram and post on my facebook that i don't have to log in for over there and then my mom will tell me she saw me on facebook and i'm like what what what did you see mama she's like your post is on facebook and i'm like holy it is over there threads too really i get only only only posts only posts on instagram threads only posts go to not reels Reels go to Facebook.
2:29:44Darius Butler:Yeah.
2:29:45Pat McAfee:What? And my mom saw something we posted on Instagram on Facebook. And I'm like, mom, I think somebody's ripping my shit. You know, you should continue to tell me about that. She goes, is this your account? I haven't been in there in years. Holy fuck. Zuck figured out my password and connected us. How's that whole thing go? So then you got to go into what email I had. That goes back to my West Virginia email, I think. It's like possible.
2:30:09Darius Butler:Things have been deactivated for 15 years. Oh, my God. what alternate email could it have been it's crazy and then at the time what was my favorite drink
2:30:18Pat McAfee:what was i uh at the time that might have been a rum and coke though incredible hulk i'll tell you what that one really put some people to bed hypnotic and hennessy right oh yeah i'll take the incredible hulk are you sure always followed up there yeah well gotta make that thing green thing The color of the hypnotic. How do they do that? Interesting color. Like a turquoise? Yeah, but it's really bright. Like, really bright. Looks so cool. Some sort of ooze. What is that up there? Probably is some sort of ooze. What is that nectar up there that is glowing up there? Well, we can actually put this together with Hennessy and really fuck up your whole night.
2:30:59Pat McAfee:Done. Do it. Give me that one. What was the other one? The four shots?
2:31:04Darius Butler:The four horsemen. Four horsemen.
2:31:05Pat McAfee:Yeah.
2:31:06Darius Butler:That was terrible. Jack, Jose, Jim.
2:31:10Pat McAfee:That's when you knew you walked into enemy territory. You know? You walked in there. Somebody goes, hey, Pat, good to see you. Let me buy you some stuff. Send you down there. It's like, oh, this place hates me. Got it.
2:31:19Darius Butler:I went to a place that had a wheel. You just spun it. That was one of the options. If it happened, it just happened. Yeah, but there were some other good options on there. There was a couple good ones. There was a couple real bad ones.
2:31:28Pat McAfee:Those days were crazy. This generation has no idea what it used to be like. The cameras on the phones, I think, change everything. Everybody's kind of a little bit more docile. used to be fucking wild world out there. They do other ridiculous. Still is a wild world. It's not going to twist. You can get punched in the face, shot all that stuff. I'm not saying you can't, but I'm just talking about going out. That just changed immediately.
2:31:47Darius Butler:Yeah, but they do other the galaxy gas, all that shit. What's that, nitrous? I don't even know what it is. It's like computer duster or some shit, isn't it? It's their form of nitrous?
2:31:58Pat McAfee:I think so. Yeah, we had that too. It's fine. That's like a 30 second thing. You should not be killing brain cells with.
2:32:04Darius Butler:Yeah, you guys had it, but you didn't have a phone that added like the, oh, do the most ever, and we'll get it on camera and post it. It'll be cool. It means anything. I was trying every time to break every record. I don't know. You seen Steve-O clinking around? What's that? You ever see the video of Steve-O clinking around? That's what I'm saying, though. With the Steve-O era, you're going and you're buying a specific camera video recorder. Now it's more so like, hey, everyone's got one. So if you think you can do something absurd, let's film it and see it on that.
2:32:32Pat McAfee:You can make a business out of it.
2:32:33Darius Butler:Yeah.
2:32:33Pat McAfee:And you can get a good business out of it. You can become a millionaire. I don't know if I would have survived.
2:32:38Darius Butler:And you can die.
2:32:41Pat McAfee:That's what I think would have got me. Because those incredible hulks. I mean, can you chuck four of these? Can you chuck four of these in a minute or whatever? It's like, oh, we're going to try. We're going to try this entire thing. Good nights. Yeah, and terrible mornings.
2:32:57Darius Butler:We drink strong islands. We used to get pictures of strong islands. Oh, yeah. There's a lot that goes into those. you feel really good the next day after you chug those.
2:33:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, and why do they taste so good? They're always like, this one's got 10 shots in it. Where? What's the strong one? I think it's because we were young. I don't know. Just more booze.
2:33:14Darius Butler:Long Island, just more booze. They got like eight, nine
2:33:17Pat McAfee:shots in this. Allegedly. Of different alcohols. Yeah, it's mixing everything.
2:33:24Darius Butler:When's the last time you heard someone order a Long Island? Give me a Long Island iced tea. I had one two weeks ago. They do not taste the same. I feel like that was just a young... Is it top shelf?
2:33:33Adam Schefter:We're at the age now you need Top Shelf.
2:33:34Darius Butler:I don't know.
2:33:35Adam Schefter:It was just on the menu.
2:33:36Pat McAfee:Do they have Top Shelf Long Island? Yep. Never been.
2:33:39Darius Butler:Yeah, I got Sveka in them.
2:33:41Pat McAfee:The only places I've ever been, they're making these Long Islands. Yeah, exactly.
2:33:47Darius Butler:Hit it with the gun. Yeah. What else we got back there?
2:33:50Pat McAfee:Yeah. Well, no, put that back. Yep. Here you go. You won't taste it. It's fucking in the middle of that. Here you go. Thank you. That'll be$10. What the fuck did I pay for? Everything. Hold all the shit out. What do you think of this? You're going to love it. There's Mario Shotwheel, dying here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
2:34:09Darius Butler:Referring to.
2:34:10Pat McAfee:You can get a black and gold shot. You can get a car maquazzo. I'll get you a Vegas bomb. We'll get you going. White gummy bear. Hey, how you doing? Three wise men. Good night and puke.
2:34:19Darius Butler:That's the one I always...
2:34:20Pat McAfee:There's a Jaeger. There's an O-bomb. Love the O-bombs. The O-bombs get you going. Tequila, green tea, pineapple, royal flush, lemon head. Is that what that is? Yeah. Yep. That one tastes like shit.
2:34:34Darius Butler:Yep. Very sweet. An O-Bomb? Just tequila.
2:34:39Pat McAfee:O-Bomb is just tequila?
2:34:40Darius Butler:No, there's the 2 o 'clock.
2:34:43Pat McAfee:Are you just hoping for a green tea? That's the easy way.
2:34:45Darius Butler:Well, it depends on who you are. Back in the day, we were definitely hoping for Vegas Pulse.
2:34:49Adam Schefter:If you're spinning this, you're not hoping for a green tea.
2:34:52Darius Butler:Or a good time. What's that? Or a good time. You were looking to end up under a dumpster. if you're ending up at this slot wheel. Yeah, okay. We did it every weekend.
2:35:05Pat McAfee:First stop. You get a free shot at this thing. Yeah, that's awesome. Crazy world back in the day. Good times. The eye is taped off. Yeah, it's been around. Yeah, it's incredible. On that wheel, me, tone, Nick, we've had our hands on that wheel. Let's talk about the throwback uniforms for the Pittsburgh Steelers. My immediate thought upon seeing them I didn't like them. Then I think about what throwback uniforms are, and I immediately go, that's not bad. All they're trying to do is move some more jerseys and pay tribute to the past, which I respect. This one, interesting form of the bumblebee, just kind of inverted the entire thing.
2:35:48Pat McAfee:I would certainly like stripes up and down as opposed to flat. I think that is good. The pants color, don't love it. You make that black, I think you've got a cooler-looking thing, But, hey, I guess that wasn't what it was back in the day. Do they feel obligated to make it not look as good as it could look? Does that make sense?
2:36:05Darius Butler:I feel like they feel obligated to make it historically accurate so that the steel workers of that time, if they were to magically come back today, they'd be like, oh, those are Steelers. Steelers are back. And so, look, you can see they're historically accurate. I mean, I like them better than the Bumblebees. Would they – Black Pants been a lot better? Yeah, but I mean, it's just not what they were.
2:36:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, I understand then in 1933 they didn't have the black pants on, but we could say the steel, ash, char. The new helmet would make it look worse. What'd you say?
2:36:41Darius Butler:The new style helmets really distort what the throwbacks look like, I think. Get the old school helmets that weigh 400 pounds and put them in those guys for one game.
2:36:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, if we're going to do it historically accurately, we should do the same helmets. We should do the same helmets as these. I agree. Collars. I just saw the clip of... We just posted it on Instagram. It was from Radio Row. Somebody was talking about the new helmet. And JJ, Walt was like, I finally put it on my last year. It's so nice. So comfortable. I didn't want to take it off. It's not heavy. And AJ was sitting there, you look stupid, don't you? It was like clearly JJ was like attacking you in the entire thing. It's like helmets have transformed a lot. I mean, from what they used to look like to what they are now.
2:37:30Pat McAfee:But I guess inside they feel good. I guess it's like a fun. Because remember, and I didn't grow up in the football world, so forgive me. Man, my ears putting that fucking thing on.
2:37:41Darius Butler:Oh, my ears are bruised. My ears get bruised all the time. Ears are always the biggest issue.
2:37:46Pat McAfee:Could get cauliflower fucking ear from putting on a goddamn helmet. And then let alone I have a big head. I have a large head. So they're like, well, we'll give you a bigger helmet. and it's like, I don't, I'm still going to have to fucking bend that thing out because it has to be tight, right? I know what you're saying? So you bend that down. Then the side of your head is just getting compressed, let alone if this thing stays down. Yeah, if you got your ear just like stays down, it's a whole thing. The helmet, I'm happy they made it better.
2:38:12Adam Schefter:Getting pumped up. I'm going to type up a little bit. Till the pads.
2:38:17Darius Butler:I miss it. I want a few pumps right now. Strap it in.
2:38:21Adam Schefter:There's a helmet behind you. Whoa, too much, too much. Take a little bit out.
2:38:23Pat McAfee:There's a couple of helmets behind you right now if you want to run into a wall.
2:38:25Adam Schefter:No, those are too new. Two fans. No, no, no. They won it.
2:38:28Pat McAfee:How about that one? Steelers. That's Steelers helmet. Yeah, go do it. You can put on Maverick's helmet, too, if you want. Too nice. That is beautiful. Game worn. So if they're going to do the gimmick helmets, why don't they do gimmick pants?
2:38:42Darius Butler:I'm with you.
2:38:43Pat McAfee:Are you going to buy that jersey? No. Which player would you buy the jersey of this year? T.J. Watt. Okay.
2:38:52Darius Butler:I don't have a T-J jersey.
2:38:53Pat McAfee:You were real excited T.J. Walt was a Pittsburgh Steelers.
2:38:55Darius Butler:He's now a one-helmet guy. I do this a lot. I do this all the time where I put out both sides. I put out some mixed feelings. Then once it finally happens, you get your true soul, your true heart, your true north.
2:39:05Pat McAfee:Who else do you think you did that for? Quarterback as well?
2:39:08Darius Butler:Yep, for sure. For Aaron, for sure.
2:39:10Pat McAfee:For the last three years. How about DK Metcalf? Did you do that for DK? How about Johnny Smith? Did you do that for Johnny? No. You didn't?
2:39:16Darius Butler:Because I didn't even know it was an option. When the news of the original news, John who came out that it was potentially trading for him. I said, that's bullshit. That's not going to happen. And then Khan gets a job. Yeah. And then it happened. It was crazy. Legend. Like I never thought DK was an option ever. So I never even had. Are you guys winning the Super Bowl this year? I would be highly surprised if we did.
2:39:37Pat McAfee:D. Butch, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC championship this year. Oh, no. That's bullshit. I mean, you know. AJ, Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC championship this year? I've been thinking about this lately.
2:39:50Darius Butler:If their line holds up, I think they definitely have a chance. That's the question. They definitely have a chance if – That's everybody's team, but I'm telling you, the Steelers, look around, man. They got some studs. Jalen Ramsey's on the squad now. They got a team.
2:40:04Pat McAfee:I completely forgot about Jalen Ramsey over there. Yeah.
2:40:08Adam Schefter:Those are – You think Ravens, Bills, Chiefs? I mean, Chiefs. I'm going to start Chiefs. Ravens to the Bills. Bengals are way too high. What? I agree.
2:40:20Pat McAfee:That's ridiculous. They're talking about Trey Hendrickson in a little bit. Thinks he's going to get the deal done. Mike Brown came out and talked about it. Yeah, I think he said that two months ago, too. Well, his family, though, came out and said, some of these players need to be pretty happy with what they got. Yeah. As far as the Texans are that low. Shamar Stewart needs a sign.
2:40:36Darius Butler:I understand. He's not. Yeah. Because they're not changing the contract.
2:40:40Pat McAfee:That's what it feels like. Cincinnati Bengals are not going to change. He has taken a stand on this clause about guarantees and voided years and everything like that. He said that we learned that it wasn't in the Bengals deal last year, but it is in 16 different teams, organizations, deals. We would have assumed the Cincinnati Bengals would have been doing something to save themselves money if other teams were doing it already. Certainly. Right? I think we all kind of assumed that was the case. So I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm definitely at the case where I hope Schmar gets money, hope he gets all of his money, and I hope he gets back to work with the boys.
2:41:12Pat McAfee:Because he could be a difference maker in the NFL with how talented he is.
2:41:16Adam Schefter:Yeah, but he needs – I mean, we all need reps coming in. But he needs some bad. So, him not getting this or Trey Hendrickson done is crazy. But speaking of contracts, guarantees, and all that, a lot of these second-round picks are finally getting signed. Fully guaranteed deals, which is great for them.
2:41:32Pat McAfee:Before we get to that Mike Brown's quote about Shamar Stewart, if we get a player who does something unacceptable, guess what? I don't want to pay him. I really don't. If he's sitting in jail, I don't think I have to pay him. Obviously, injuries, jail, I guess, is certainly things that you could void contracts for. Hopefully, they get the deal done. Mike Brown, ever transparent. Now, back to what you were talking about, about the second round deals finally getting done. Kind of an abnormal year for the CBA and for these players in the second round.
2:41:56Adam Schefter:Yeah, people still showing up. Most rookies have already had to show up for camp. So, all these guys getting paid. We had Carson. I think he was the first one to get paid with being the first pick in the second round. But, I mean, I love this. You know, they took somewhat of a stand. it didn't take too long. We're right on training camp and once these top, once these dominoes start to fall, you assume the rest of the guys will fall in line. Obviously we know Judkins is dealing with some issues off the field which will probably hold his up but most of these guys are either fully guaranteed or north of 90 % guaranteed which is awesome.
2:42:27Darius Butler:Yeah, so originally last time we talked about this, Sueschinger and Higgins were the only ones that were paid and they were paid fully guaranteed money and the hold up was right there with number 35 Nick Emanwari from Seattle. I think he was the next one. And he said, oh, the two guys in front of me, they were fully guaranteed. Why aren't I fully guaranteed? So now at this point, picks 33 through 40 are all fully guaranteed. Obviously, you talked about Judkins. He is not done yet. So they were all fully guaranteed, 33 to 40. And then the next one, TJ Sanders out of Buffalo, he was like 95 % fully guaranteed.
2:43:00Darius Butler:As you go down the list, I mean, most of these are north of 80 % fully guaranteed. So that was kind of the holdup. But once you got to Shuck, who was the quarterback, and they said he has leverage because he is a quarterback to get the fully guaranteed. He might be a starter. Yes, but once that first domino fell at 41, then it was like, okay, this is kind of how it's going to fall in as far as percentage of fully guaranteed.
2:43:24Pat McAfee:I do appreciate the fact that Bean was like, we'll give you guarantees. Not full. I mean, 10.07 on 10.6. Come on. Come on. I love that. Play ball. Let's go. We're doing it. It's a lot of guarantee. We have$10 million. And then you kind of go down throughout the rest of it. Mason Taylor, obviously, from the Taylor family. Absolute beast over there with the New York Jets. $9.6 million of$10.4 million, fully guaranteed. I like the angle. I like what the boys tried to do. I think it all worked out, and now we're a camp.
2:43:51Darius Butler:It was funny because, you know, as soon as that – it was like a few days ago, that first, second rounder that hadn't been signed got signed, and then literally they – like 20 of them signed within two days.
2:44:02Pat McAfee:Yep. Shout out to the second rounders, AJ. You wouldn't know anything about that, would you? No, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. Are they doing anything outside top five? Who cares?
2:44:12Darius Butler:You think football ever gets to fully guaranteed deals like basketball and baseball?
2:44:16Pat McAfee:Is Scott Boris coming over or no?
2:44:18Darius Butler:I don't think it happens. But, yeah, I mean, that's probably part of the reason why football is great, though. Because every single day, and you know as well, like, I know we've talked about it. Like, you need to have a healthy fear of your job. Like, you really do.
2:44:30Pat McAfee:Agreed. I think, yeah, product can potentially dip if people get too comfortable and don't try to work for everything in the future if you have to earn it. Now, granted, I am very much a pro player, guaranteed. Get all the money you could possibly get. But if we're talking strictly from the product standpoint, when people are chasing bags, that's when they're playing their absolute best ball. The NFL knows that, but I think taking care of the players is a very valuable, especially the guys, you know, like the guys at your league. That's why when I went to that first Pro Bowl, was out there in Arizona.
2:45:02Pat McAfee:All the guys that make money for the NFL were there. Okay, like Tom Brady opted out. I think Aaron opted out. But basically, JJ's there. Luke Keekly's there. Drew Brees is there. Patrick wasn't at that time, no. But like basically everybody else that makes money for the NFL was there. And they didn't even like rent out the entire hotel. And I was like, what the fuck are we doing, man? Like you got to at least take care of these people, the people that take care of and move the needle for your entire league. So I think like older players getting fully guaranteed deals if they've already proven who they are, I think it's something we need.
2:45:32Pat McAfee:And I think it will be something that happens. But, boy, that Deshaun Watson deal fucked up a lot.
2:45:36Adam Schefter:That's what fucked it up, man.
2:45:37Pat McAfee:A lot, I think, you know. Like, if that works out for them up there. Think about if Cleveland wins.
2:45:42Darius Butler:Yeah. Yeah, then. Then it's like, everybody is going to be able to pull the trigger.
2:45:47Pat McAfee:But the fact that it's gone the way that it's gone, as terribly as it's gone, both on the field and off the field, it's like that's a lot of reasoning for the NFL to say, no, we're not going to do it. But I hope we get to a point where like vets are getting fully guaranteed. There has to be like a year like, hey, if you get to this point, you can opt into this or something like that. I don't know how it all.
2:46:06Adam Schefter:I mean, I'm not concerned with you there. I'm pro player getting paid. I'm not concerned with the product dipping. We have seen a lot of guys get paid. And then that next year they don't play as well because obviously you do have that motivation when you are in a contract year. But once you start getting to that big, big money, those are usually, you know, like guys who've been playing for six, seven, eight. Like this would be the Josh Allen's, the Lamar Jackson's, like Jalen Hurts. Like these guys aren't just going to stop being pros once they're getting these huge bags. And then the other guys who are, you know, say early 20s, like a Stingley or a Salsa just got paid, they want to get paid again, you know, because three, four years down the line, new CBA, new salary, they're going to want$50 million a year.
2:46:46Adam Schefter:So, you know, we always want more money, especially at football. You want to maximize your three, five, ten years, however long you play in the league. So I hope it happens with the violence and the guarantee of injury in this sport. It's going to be tough.
2:47:00Pat McAfee:It's very scary, the injury thing. That's why the franchise tag, everybody gets so pissed off about. It's like, I've earned it. You think that I've earned it. That's why you won't let me go to the market. And now you're holding me down for a year and I only get one year worth of guarantees when I could, this all could end next year. This could all end one play. So there's that balance of it all. I think it's a tough negotiation. We have anybody on the franchise tag this year? Not this year. No, because Trey Smith got his deal done. Shot to Jimmy Sexton and Torrey Dandy. That's right. Right? That's right.
2:47:29Pat McAfee:Both of them. Torrey Dandy. Both Jimmy and Torrey, AJ.
2:47:35Darius Butler:They're a team, right? They do it together.
2:47:37Pat McAfee:They're boys. I guess. I only talked to Jimmy, and then Jimmy told me what was going on. I guess I should have also called Torrey and asked him what the fuck's going on, too. One voice. One band. One band. One sound. Maritz, get out of here. I think we did it today. Yeah, I think so too. Shot SeatGeek, by the way. Go see a show. We've been living a little bit. We got to see a show, Shane Gillis. Yeah, we did. I saw somebody say nobody was laughing in a theater. That's a lie. I was having a good time in there. Great time. We were laughing. Some of the things, I was like, phew. But that's Shane Gillis football.
2:48:11Pat McAfee:Exactly. That is literally what Shane Gillis football is. I did appreciate the, I didn't want to say it. I said I didn't want to say it. They wrote this. What an angle. There was certainly some, but this is going to happen, you know? Obviously, with the way the ESPYs has been for a long time, you drop a Shane Gillis in there who's going to, like, hey, we are here to. I mean, you know what you're getting. We are going to push the envelope a bit. We are going to go. But who says it's an envelope? You know, because who says what the envelope is? Right. Especially in comedy. And the line between humor and hate, for a lot of people, just kind of blends together.
2:48:45Pat McAfee:It's like, hey, these are jokes. Trying to laugh. Well, you didn't make me laugh. All right, well, hopefully in the next joke we'll. You know, like that is the thing. I don't love whenever people are like, I guess it happens to me a lot too. When people are like, I didn't think that was funny. It was like, well, there's other people that find that funny. It's like, well, it's not funny. It's like, well, who says? You say that? Like this is like food taste, man. Like everybody has their own taste. Everybody views things a little bit differently. A lot of people are less serious than other people.
2:49:12Pat McAfee:We understand you're trying to change the world, make the world better every single second. But this is a comedian making sports jokes. and the purpose is to laugh at these things and point out potential hypocrisies and problems or just a thing that we've all seen like that is what comedians jobs are since the beginning of time to kind of regulate society i think personally they have a very important role in our entire world not all of them do that obviously some of them are different forms of comedy once again different styles some of them represent different political parties you know in their styles and uh As soon as we heard Shane was the guy, it was like, all right, we would like Shane to succeed in this entire thing.
2:49:51Pat McAfee:Also, we very much understand how some of this is going to go and what the next day is going to look like.
2:49:56Darius Butler:They also didn't help him out. When we went last time, it was a full open bar. This year, you had people getting boozed up and going in there and enjoying themselves and having a good time. It was just beer and wine and seltzer this year. So I wonder if just the general People weren't as drunk in there
2:50:16Pat McAfee:I don't know, people were laughing though I don't know if it wasn't coming through the TV, and I saw some people Say they weren't in there and nobody was laughing
2:50:23Darius Butler:It didn't come through for years though Number one, you did it
2:50:28Pat McAfee:We had some pops, sounded quiet
2:50:29Darius Butler:But people online were like No one's laughing during McAfee's Monologue, but that wasn't
2:50:35Pat McAfee:The case, yeah there was some people popping And just like for Shane, there was some There was certainly some
2:50:41Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah, it was definitely even for me. Like, obviously, I was sitting next to you and the camera was, you know, so it was some jokes.
2:50:47Pat McAfee:I'm like, yeah, I didn't love that. That's a joke that offends a lot of people. Where's fucking McAfee? Put him on.
2:50:52Adam Schefter:My daughter was like, oh, I saw you yucking it up. It was funny. He hawed. And if you don't know, if you're tuning into, you know, the SBs, you don't know because obviously Shane Gillis is wildly popular. But there are a lot of people who don't really know him who aren't that familiar with, you know, his brand of comedy. They may go, yeah, just ask me to tune in. So maybe you're taken aback by some of it. And, you know, the demo. Our role was definitely. Yeah, we were laughing. He was getting some pops. We were enjoying it, yeah. For sure.
2:51:23Pat McAfee:Our role, though, we would like to say to the people who are going to get mad about us saying that we laughed at some of his jokes. You people need to lighten up a little bit. Maybe try weed. Maybe try weed. Just something to think about, you know? Just something to think about. But also, there were some things he said where we were like, Jesus. There was a couple that were like, oh, my.
2:51:40Darius Butler:I pissed my pants off on everyone. I don't know if I even had any of those. But I also assume that people at home watching didn't think people were laughing because I assumed maybe the audience mic was turned down. Maybe he was turned down during the applause laugh times versus when he was on. You think it was going to work against them? Again, who knows? I wouldn't be surprised. I'll tell you what. I enjoyed that, Espy. So did I. It would have been awesome if they were selling liquor in the lobby. But outside of that, it was great.
2:52:09Pat McAfee:I enjoyed the monologue. Gumpy missed the entire... I still can't believe he got in there. That'll be a story for another day. I had faith in him the whole time.
2:52:18Darius Butler:It was awesome. First time in my life that's ever happened.
2:52:21Pat McAfee:Gumpy had a code red one block away from the theater. Had to get out of the Sprinter van, go to a random restaurant, dump his shit. Talked to a manager. Had to get to a manager because the front person was like, you can't just dump it in our bathroom, buddy. Can I talk to a manager, please, buddy? Missed a group pick.
2:52:37Darius Butler:We were sitting at that light for fucking 10 minutes, dude. I was fucking dying.
2:52:42Pat McAfee:Did you see me put him in the photo? So the one I posted on IG, I put Gumpy in over my shoulder. Really? Right here, if you look. Hanging from his ship painting hat on. His helmet, the whole thing. I put him right there. Because he was in the area. Yeah. He just couldn't get to where we... There was like six different levels of security, AJ. It was outrageous. Right after he got out, it was the most complex.
2:53:05Darius Butler:Take a left, go down this. take a right, take a left, take a right, go through another security. I mean, it was...
2:53:09Pat McAfee:And at every turn, AJ, we were like, Gumpy will be able to get here. No problem. What did you do during the show, Gump?
2:53:17Darius Butler:Gump had to go there and find the Lord. Yeah, I just ran. Oh, okay. It took a while to get to where they were, but I found it somehow.
2:53:23Pat McAfee:Missed the group photos, missed the first three drinks, but got there in time to go into the theater. That's right. It was great to see him. But he didn't shit his pants, which I guess we were very close to happening.
2:53:32Darius Butler:I definitely would have. I forgot all about the beer and wine bullshit.
2:53:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, I was happy about that.
2:53:37Darius Butler:No offense to Mickey Mouse, but that was Mickey Mouse. I wonder why that happened.
2:53:42Pat McAfee:I don't know. It was cool. I assume someone got blitzed last year. Was it the same place last year? Same, yeah. A couple years back.
2:53:49Darius Butler:Is that theater supposed to be nice? Sorry, nice. All right.
2:53:55Pat McAfee:If you were to go to a show and do a nice theater, you should use our friends at SeatGeek. I thought the theater was nice. You didn't think the theater was nice? No, I didn't. I went backstage. I thought the stage was beautiful. because we were setting up the whole thing. Had a microphone that came up out of the stage. That was pretty high tech. Stage was very nice. The design of it all. Oh, we got a Busta Rhymes before. Oh my God. How'd break your neck not come immediately afterwards? Whenever he said, now granted, Busta is still throwing his fastball. This was literally the next day. We were driving somewhere and I'm like, what we just did right here.
2:54:29Pat McAfee:Holy shit, Busta Rhymes last night. Hit it. everything. It's like, how has he still got it? And then he said, if you know how we do or something like that, I'm like, we do know how you do. I thought we were I thought we were about to I was about to, on top of my chair, stand up and do that entire thing. But I think he biggest reaction was Busta Rhymes. The entire theater stood up. By far. Ty started a standing ovation. I did. Ty started a standing ovation. I forget which one it was. It was either now it wasn't Simone Biles.
2:55:04Darius Butler:It might have been for Diana Taurasi and Alex Morgan.
2:55:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, because there was clapping happening. A lot of clapping happening. And Ty was like, nope. That's literally what he said. Stood up, big claps in the middle of the theater. And then you see everybody. Like wildfire. Yeah, it was. Ty started it. It was pretty sick. And then they gave a good speech. And then we learned Taurasi
2:55:30Adam Schefter:is an absolute dog. big fan of the program too
2:55:35Pat McAfee:yeah we learned that I don't know
2:55:38Darius Butler:she wouldn't lie to me she gave Gumps a slap on the chest she big dog Gumps I wouldn't say big dog I thought it was out of respect
2:55:46Pat McAfee:I guess she is a legendary shit talker
2:55:49Darius Butler:I saw an interview she did outside in the red carpet when she was saying very humble saying yeah I can still take all these girls
2:55:58Pat McAfee:she's a dog from my understanding I guess she knows the show which is pretty sick We would love to get Diana D 'Arazi on the show. We'd love to hear her. I watched that documentary where she's playing overseas. Yeah.
2:56:07Adam Schefter:Yeah. She had to play over in Russia for the first 12 years of her career.
2:56:11Pat McAfee:Did you watch that doc on her?
2:56:12Adam Schefter:I did not.
2:56:13Pat McAfee:She was coming back, WNBA season, then going over there. Then she couldn't play in some things because of the contracts. Speaking of, we're in the middle of it, I guess, with WNBA contracts right now. Yeah. Yeah, I watched the whole doc. She's a beast. Absolute beast.
2:56:24Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah.
2:56:24Pat McAfee:I had no idea she would. I'd assume, just immediately, that she would have hated our fucking guts. That's how I was. Still do. Still a chance. Still a suit. She still thinks, she thinks, you know, and Shane probably did it on purpose, but she probably thinks that's how we feel as well. Yeah. The entire thing.
2:56:41Darius Butler:We clapped for that four-time NBA or WNBA All-Star. What was her name? Wicks. Brittany Hicks. Brittany Hicks.
2:56:47Pat McAfee:Hicks, yeah. What a moment.
2:56:49Darius Butler:What a creative little situation that was.
2:56:52Pat McAfee:Yeah. I don't know if people are talking about that particular situation. I heard Sarah Spain's pissed. What? Sarah Spain was pissed, yeah. No way. I got a chance to meet Sarah Spain and her husband. They were very nice to me and Foxy. Steve Spain? I don't know his name. Steve. I don't know his name. I forget his name. They were very nice to us. But Sarah obviously pissed off. That's her. She's like, hey, we don't need to be taking anything down. So I think we expected Sarah Spain to not love that entire thing. Him saying Deanna Taurasi, that had to be on purpose. He had to have done that on purpose.
2:57:27Adam Schefter:It went right to her, too. the short reaction.
2:57:30Pat McAfee:And then the whole make some noise for four-time WNBA like you were talking about, calling that a low-level thing, I don't think she was talking about that. I don't think she was talking about that. That was a super genius.
2:57:44Darius Butler:It worked. It worked. How do you argue? It worked perfectly. Well, any amount of levels. I assumed she was talking about the Caitlin Clark Waffle House deal. Yeah.
2:57:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, because the whole make some noise for fourth time. That's just... Yeah. Raucous applause.
2:58:03Adam Schefter:I was looking.
2:58:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, sure. That's really dope.
2:58:07Darius Butler:Well, then you see... Oh, my God. Yeah.
2:58:10Pat McAfee:She could dribble the shit out of that ball.
2:58:11Darius Butler:Gets buckets, obviously.
2:58:12Pat McAfee:I happened to meet her afterwards. I sort of congrats on a fourth-time All-Star and then just kind of kept it moving. Big laugh. McCusker losing his mind. Yeah, he's inside of the ball.
2:58:23Darius Butler:That was great.
2:58:25Pat McAfee:All right. Shout out to the Espy's. Shout out. It was cool. That LeCorse thing was sweet. Yeah. Great. Speech was phenomenal. Mm-hmm. Speech was phenomenal. No. Ad-libbed. Because I was watching. He was, I think, August 30th is going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ohio State, Texas. So cool. It's going to be his last, you know, headgear, his last pick, and first college game day of the year over there in Columbus. And he looked good, man. Energy. Moved.
2:58:56Darius Butler:talking in the band yeah usc band i forgot about that was sweet that was sick i had no idea what
2:59:01Pat McAfee:they were gonna do i was just told hey usc band's coming out at the end if you could bring them up you got it i had no idea they're coming from the floor yeah dancers everywhere yeah oh holy fuck we're doing a full i actually i was standing in a place and a guy slid in front of me for their performance i look at des i go holy fuck and i move this way and des is literally that because I almost interrupted and tripped this entire guy. So I'm like, where is a safe place?
2:59:27Darius Butler:It wasn't.
2:59:27Pat McAfee:I don't know. We should have paid attention a little bit more. So we just kind of stood still. Should have told you a little more. But it was awesome. Nah, I think it was better that way. I think it was better how it all went. Shots of Kirk Herbstreet, Desmond Howard. Shut up. Kirk Herbstreet's hilarious. Thanks for the dinner, Herbie. After the S piece. I was very kind of him and Dee. You got a quesadilla? How the fuck? How'd you know that was? Delicious quesadilla. You should have heard Darren. D's brain is still in L.A. You should have heard, Darren. How'd you know to order the quesadilla, Fox?
2:59:59Pat McAfee:So Darren is a G. We appreciate Darren. We love Darren. Darren's around a lot. We know Darren a lot. We know D very well. He's always trying to get things done, which I respect and I appreciate. He set up this entire thing, I would assume. Shout out to D for doing that. We're at a Mexican place, though, and Foxy orders a quesadilla. And Darren's head just fucking, was that off menu? How'd you get fries with a quesadilla? Full explosion. It was great. It was one of the best D-bone. I guess you can't call him D-bone anymore. D-money. D-money moments of all time. D-white pants. Hey, he looked good.
3:00:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was in white pants. Great fit. Great tan. He looks good. Oh, yeah. D-money's ready for football season. Yeah. He's swinging a hot bat right now because that Mexican place was very good. So good. Very, very good. Very, very good.
3:00:46Darius Butler:You can get chicken in a case of Diaz and what? Holy shit. What? I would have ordered that. I thought it was just cheese this whole time.
3:00:55Pat McAfee:How about this, D? They got tacos right here.
3:00:58Darius Butler:Wow.
3:00:59Pat McAfee:What the fuck's a taco, man? They got it right here. That was great. Herbie is fucking hysterical. Kirk Herbstreet's one of the funniest people in existence. So funny.
3:01:09Darius Butler:He's in his bag right now. He is.
3:01:11Pat McAfee:That's because he's been.
3:01:12Darius Butler:He's in his I don't give a fuck bag right now.
3:01:14Pat McAfee:yeah but i also think he's been kind of who's he been talking to the dogs he's cooped up you can tell yeah he's got a lot to say yeah a lot has happened and it was all funny all of it yes how do we feel and then you knew he's a lot like you you toxic ohio fucks hey so drop something in there that you know a lot more than you want to lead on about just want to kind of start the conversation classic herb street so fill me in something oh jesus wow wow is that right even him
3:01:44Darius Butler:Him on the show just like casually putting in the background and acting like he wasn't doing anything to be on the show.
3:01:50Pat McAfee:I want to see if you guys would see me back there. Yeah. Left hand. He did make a 25-footer. He did. Left. Only got to make a putt out there.
3:01:57Adam Schefter:Yeah. You can tell he's ready to get back in the ball, too, because regardless of the conversation, you could be just shooting the shit 30, 45. Who you got in the AFC this year? Who you like? Who you like?
3:02:07Pat McAfee:What quarterback? Let's go around the ball club here. Let's go around the ball. That's his move. He wants to hear everybody's answer. Really? Wow. Wow. He's awesome. Five months of AK will do that. Hey, he looks good.
3:02:19Darius Butler:He does.
3:02:20Pat McAfee:He looks very good right now. Tanned. 30 years, yeah. Fit. 22 years. He did four hours local radio.
3:02:27Darius Butler:Yep. These are the dog days, boys. Yeah, we know.
3:02:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're in it. Not so much this year, though, Herbie. We've gotten lazy. Yeah. We've gotten lazy. It has been great. Can't wait for football season. It's here. It's here. On that note, we have an announcement. Yes, it is here. Yes. We have an announcement. Next Wednesday, we will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. And next Thursday, we will be at the Hall of Fame for the Hall of Fame game. Boom. Football is back in a huge way. We'll be at a training camp next Wednesday live with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers favorites. And then we'll be at the Hall of Fame game live with all of the legends of the NFL.
3:03:13Pat McAfee:shout out to the NFL Hall of Fame Football Pro Football Hall of Fame shout out to the Pittsburgh Steelers Burt making magic happen thank you for the invite Aaron thank you for obliging Coach Tomlin and Omar Khan and shout out to the Hall of Fame for allowing us to be set up over there come hang with us we're going to be I don't know about St. Vincent's setup I have no idea what that's going to be like but I know at the Hall of Fame there's a massive parking lot you can come hang and chill we're going to be right at the steps I don't know if anybody's ever been set up on the steps there I think a lot of the legends of the game are going to swing through.
3:03:47Pat McAfee:And then, obviously, we kick off NFL football that night with the Lions helmet taking on the Chargers helmet on a football field in Ohio. Hardball's going to be on the sideline. MCDC's going to be on the sideline. There's some quarterbacks that we know that are going to potentially have some time. And we know that football is literally right around the corner because this game's happening. We can't wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh, more specifically La Trobe. And we can't wait to celebrate in Canton next week. Come see us. Ain't that right, AJ?
3:04:14Darius Butler:That's awesome, man. What a great two days. So when does camp open for the Steelers? Will they be in full pads this time?
3:04:19Pat McAfee:So they start Wednesday in two days. They start. They'll be in full pads probably. There'll be a weekend. There'll be full pads in. They're one of the last two teams to start their training camp. 26 teams will start tomorrow. Four have already started. And then two start on Wednesday.
3:04:35Darius Butler:Yes, correct.
3:04:36Pat McAfee:I can't remember. I think it's the Cardinals who also start Wednesday. But they've already been doing work now. I've seen Kyler Murray traveling with the boys.
3:04:43Darius Butler:He was at Morgan Wallen, too.
3:04:45Pat McAfee:Yeah, I see. What happened night one, Morgan Wallen? Something. What do you mean? He had Randy Johnson. I saw that. Awesome. Morgan, as baseball player growing up, had to be so cool for him. I hope Randy knows that. I assume that was very, very cool for Morgan and his entire team, his great group of dudes around him. And then he had Joey Dirt walk out with him. Sure. But I think the reports were saying the night one's crowd was a little bit more rowdy. Really? Yeah, fights, bottles maybe being thrown. Things like that. I guess it was a little bit outrageous. Robbed up.
3:05:18Darius Butler:They were letting the liquor talk, unfortunately.
3:05:20Pat McAfee:Last night they let the liquor talk. I bet that show is phenomenal. Yeah. He just released an album with 37 songs on it. Hey, Morgan, loves golf. Ooh. Loves golf. Loves, loves, loves golf. Very much so. Good golfer. It's ball fart. golf needs to know that Morgan Wallen is a big golf fan because I think he respects game, loves game, treats game, goes out of his way to play game, trains game, then obviously fitness, everything he's doing for these stadium shows. He's a beast. He's a fucking beast. 37 songs on an album. Brother, I could do like four fucking albums. 850 ,000 copies, I think. No big deal.
3:06:06Pat McAfee:More. 850 ,000 dollars more than second.
3:06:08Darius Butler:There it is, yeah.
3:06:09Pat McAfee:Yeah. I think you had, what, 25 of the top 50 or something like that in those songs? Now he's just walking out there. Thank you very much for coming out tonight. Bang. A hundred and some thousand tickets sold. Jesus Christ. Think about all that. Congrats, dude. Hell yeah, Morgan. I guess they're pretty wild out there in Arizona. It's not his fault. No. I mean, I'm trying to think of what song could have been in there. in there. He says, throw a fucking bottle at the stage. I don't know.
3:06:41Darius Butler:About to ad-lib something?
3:06:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, maybe. Right in the middle of that. Just go ahead and let that thing go crazy. Alright, this one goes in. This one goes in. We'll use CK code PAT30. Nope. CK code PAT, just P-A-T. To get$30 off Morgan Wallen tickets.
3:07:02Darius Butler:Alright, done.
3:07:07Pat McAfee:All right, full price, I guess. That stinks because – where's he at next? Can you look it up?
3:07:17Darius Butler:D-Bone? D-Bone, where's he at next? I think he has a tattoo on his back.
3:07:21Pat McAfee:He was in Arizona last week. He's got the entire – He's in Seattle? Where's he at after Seattle?
3:07:29Darius Butler:Glen Allen, Virginia. And? And Santa Clara, California. Cleveland, Ohio. Boxborough, Massachusetts. Oh, yeah.
3:07:39Pat McAfee:Which one should we give tickets away to? If this goes in.
3:07:42Darius Butler:None of them.
3:07:43Pat McAfee:What?
3:07:44Darius Butler:Cleveland. Cleveland, Ohio. Cleveland, Ohio. Jerry Judy. Boom. They need some good in their lives.
3:07:50Pat McAfee:We're going to give four Morgan Wallen tickets away because Jerry Judy's our favorite fucking player in the NFL. Hell yeah, Jerry. If this goes in. Yep.
3:08:00Pat McAfee:Well, it can't be four. Never was meant to be. All right, let's get out of here. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're going to sing together. Shout out to you, AJ. We'll see you tomorrow. Boys, great work. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.
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On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Scottie Scheffler’s dominating win at The Open Championship notching his fourth career major, his comments leading up to the tournament, and why he is ultimately inevitable. They also cover TJ Watt finally getting his deal done with the Steelers making him the highest paid non-QB in the history of the NFL, the entire NFLPA situation, and everything else happening around the sports world. Joining the show LIVE from a University of Michigan golf outing is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter, to discuss everything happening around the NFL as every team prepares to report to camp this week. Next, future Hall of Famer, Texans Ring of Honor member, 3x NFL DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, and now NFL on CBS color commentator, JJ Watt joins the show to discuss TJ’s new contract, his breakfast setup this past weekend, and buying another soccer team. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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