In short
The “Thunderdome” covers NFL training-camp storylines (contract tension, injuries, and early-season hope), plus a major college commitment announcement and live NFL sideline reporting from Jets/Giants camp.
Guests (and backgrounds)
- Darius J. Butler: Nine-year NFL veteran DB; introduces an “Everything DB” segment on “Sophomore Superstars in the Secondary,” explaining why the league is getting younger and how contract/holdout dynamics shape rosters.
- Jake Kreul: Five-star IMG edge rusher (listed around 6’4”, 230–240). He discusses his commitment process and development at IMG and other training programs.
- A.J. Hawk: College football national champion and Super Bowl champion; joins to react to Kreul’s tape/trajectory and to discuss NFL news and player development.
- Peter Schrager: ESPN/NFL sideline reporter and pundit; reports live from Jets training camp after a Jets-Giants inter-camp scrimmage.
- (Mentioned as live/next) Bryson DeChambeau: Appears as a planned live guest for the next segment/hour (not interviewed in the provided transcript).
Key claims / notable examples
- Contract/holdout theme: Micah Parsons dispute (Jerry vs. Micah “handshake” vs. agent negotiation), and Steelers DT Cam Hayward publicly addressing contract dissatisfaction after an All-Pro year; hosts frame it as potential “disrespect.”
- Injury concerns: Packers QB Jordan Love reported ligament injury in throwing hand/thumb; Eagles OL Landon Dickerson meniscus procedure with hope to return for the opener.
- Training-camp highlight example: QB Joe Milton’s preseason surge followed by internet backlash/memes, used to illustrate how camp narratives flip fast.
- Kreul commitment: Jake Kreul commits to Oklahoma (SEC), citing trust in the coaching staff and an aggressive, sack-producing defense (Venables/Chavis style).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONFL Season Anticipation
0:45 to 3:00
Discussion about the NFL season kickoff, training camp highlights, and player situations.
“where, oh, my God, the pads are hitting, the helmets are clashing, and football is back.”
Joe Milton's Rise and Fall
3:00 to 6:10
Analysis of Joe Milton's impressive preseason performance and the sudden shift in public perception.
“And today, it's going to be a great conversation about the hope of the future.”
Contract Talks and Player Discontent
6:10 to 9:10
Exploration of contract issues among players and the impact of negotiations on team dynamics.
“That's why when he comes on the show, we think to ourselves, hey, massive head guy.”
Cam Hayward's Contract Situation
9:10 to 11:10
Discussing Cam Hayward's contract negotiations and the implications for the Steelers.
“They're very much all kind of with each other the entire time.”
Disrespect in Negotiations
11:10 to 12:00
Discussion on the disrespect shown to Cam Hayward during contract negotiations.
“But not only Thunderdome, of Fansville as well.”
Dr. Pepper Partnership
12:00 to 14:00
Hosts share behind-the-scenes insights about the partnership with Dr. Pepper.
“gentleman uh Tim starts looking into I guess our operation everything and is like hey we would like to be a part if you guys would like do you guys like Dr.”
NFL Injury Updates
14:00 to 15:12
Discussion on the injuries of Jordan Love and Landon Dickerson and their implications.
“Pepper's a massive piece of it, had become beautiful, and we're very thankful for Dr.”
AJ Hawk Joins the Show
15:12 to 17:23
AJ Hawk shares insights on recent NFL news and the significance of Dr. Pepper.
“but any time your starting quarterback has a ligament injury in the thumb of his throwing hand, yeah, there's going to be a little cause for concern going into the regular season.”
Jake Kreul's College Commitment Announcement
17:23 to 21:58
Jake Kreul announces his commitment to the University of Oklahoma, highlighting his journey.
“He's going to be back for the season opener in three weeks in two days.”
Discussion on Jake's Future and Skills
21:58 to 24:19
Discussion about Jake Kreul's skills, potential at Oklahoma, and the recruiting process.
“And how excited are you to get out there to beautiful Norman?”
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Transformation of Student-Athletes
24:19 to 28:00
Exploring how college athletes transform their physicality and mindset during their careers.
“We got greatness sitting over there eating goldfish right now.”
The Alpha Generation and High School Sports
28:00 to 29:29
Discussion on the evolution of high school sports culture and the concept of the Alpha Generation.
“Post-lift, little lightning, little flexing.”
The Role of Sports in Society
29:30 to 32:20
Exploration of a newly formed sports council and its potential impact on the industry.
“how some people think ap to you're saying that you hope this next generation which is called the alpha generation is that really what they're called yeah they're called they're called you remember that, AJ?”
Highlights from Jets and Giants Training Camps
33:09 to 37:58
Insights from the Jets and Giants training camps, including player performances and team dynamics.
“Not only in the morning, but now all damn day, including your Monday nights now.”
Abdul Carter's Impressive Performance
37:59 to 42:00
Discussion on Abdul Carter's standout performance and the optimism surrounding the teams.
“And I'll tell you, Jackson Dart threw the ball well too.”
NFL Insights and Team Dynamics
42:00 to 43:20
Discussing the performance and potential of NFL players and teams in the upcoming season.
“and basically get out there and dominate with one arm.”
Injury Concerns and Player Care
43:20 to 45:00
Analyzing the impact of injuries on players like Matt Stafford and the importance of player health.
“I remember Aaron Glenn, if you heard, I don't know how many months ago, they were doing an interview with him, and he was talking about guys bringing in to play defense.”
Innovative Health Solutions and Technologies
45:45 to 47:05
Exploring various health technologies used by athletes to enhance performance.
“Makes you healthy after 40 minutes if you've got a cold or something like that.”
The Debate on Alternative Health Practices
47:05 to 48:25
Discussing unconventional health practices like urine therapy and their reception.
“I mean, you know, I'm not, that's, you know, I don't you can, I understand you going about it and saying things like this and bringing it up, you ever drink your own piss, Chris Paul?”
Cultural Attitudes Towards Health
48:25 to 49:25
Examining how athletes approach health practices and the extremes they go to.
“that these dudes have just strictly because you're a smarter species than us.”
Matt Stafford's Preseason Concerns
49:25 to 50:35
Discussing the implications of Matt Stafford's preseason activities on his fitness.
“I mean, the fact that he's even still playing.”
Reflections on NFL Team Changes
50:35 to 51:40
Insights on changes within NFL teams and their potential impacts on the season.
“and he might be fine, but just like the going to no matter what end of like the earth they can to emphasize and let everyone know, hey, if there was a game tomorrow, he'd play.”
Quarterback Health and Career Longevity
51:40 to 53:10
Discussing the longevity of quarterbacks in the NFL and factors affecting it.
“I think it's about, you know, because he's such a baby face.”
Exploring Dimensions of Health and Wellness
53:10 to 54:20
A discussion on metaphysical concepts of wellness and health practices.
“The first half of his career, you can tackle him and actually plant him into the ground.”
Exploring the Power of Ayahuasca
56:01 to 57:06
The hosts discuss personal experiences and thoughts on ayahuasca and its impact.
“later after he did ayahuasca so what i'm saying is i am not an ayahuasca guy i don't think everybody should be ayahuasca people.”
Excitement for the WNBA
57:37 to 58:27
Discussion on the anticipation for the WNBA season and its thrilling moments.
“Every assist, every stop, every logo three.”
Bryson DeChambeau's Arrival
58:27 to 1:00:03
The hosts build excitement for Bryson DeChambeau's appearance and discuss team dynamics.
“there are certain days where it's a little bit different.”
Bryson's Insights on Team Golf
1:00:03 to 1:02:00
Bryson discusses his team in LIV golf and the importance of team performance.
“You could almost say that I'm an honorary range goat on the team.”
Growing the Game of Golf
1:02:00 to 1:07:26
A deep dive into the future of golf, youth involvement, and personal experiences.
“Open winner, three-time Live winner, Bryson DeChambeau.”
Entertainment vs. Professional Golf
1:07:26 to 1:10:01
A debate on the viewership of entertainment golf and the traditional golfing world.
“But just for a second, if you think about the amount of viewership on the Masters compared to...”
Golf Skills and Consistency
1:10:01 to 1:11:09
Learn about the differences in skill and consistency between pro golfers and other athletes.
“One with Tony Romo, that was actually a lot of fun.”
Presidential Fitness Council Discussion
1:11:10 to 1:14:18
Discuss the mission of the President's Council on Sports and how it aims to improve youth fitness.
“What was that thing that we never got to celebrate because we couldn't touch our toes because of this stupid presidential fitness council thing.”
Engaging Kids in Fitness
1:14:19 to 1:16:36
Explore how to engage children in fitness and implement effective programs to improve their health.
“and then give some better curriculum-based initiatives for kids to get healthier.”
Ryder Cup and Its Significance
1:16:37 to 1:20:50
Understand the significance of the Ryder Cup and personal experiences from past events.
“do you try to compare it to when you have been in a zone like that to when you're feeling your best game?”
The Impact of Golf and Youth Programs
1:20:51 to 1:23:29
Discuss the role of golf in youth development and the importance of staying active.
“I mean, I think you guys have seen it as well.”
Bryson DeChambeau's Challenge at the Thunderdome
1:24:00 to 1:26:32
Learn about Bryson DeChambeau's unique golf challenge and its hype.
“If he's able to make one of those, he will win a$100 ,000 donation.”
Influences and Innovations in Golf
1:26:32 to 1:28:32
DeChambeau discusses his influences in golf and his approach to equipment.
“Also this weekend, obviously, you're at the club at Chatham Hills.”
Personalized Golf Equipment
1:28:32 to 1:30:48
Explore how personalized equipment affects performance in golf.
“You know, BD stands for – Bryson DeChambeau.”
Swing Mechanics and Technique
1:30:48 to 1:35:04
DeChambeau explains his swing technique and the mechanics behind it.
“They have it personally built, a custom steering wheel, everything for them, buttons, you name it.”
The Journey to Golfing Success
1:35:04 to 1:37:19
DeChambeau reflects on his career and the changes that improved his game.
“I'd say that when I first started on tour, I always knew I had distance but never knew how far I could truly hit it.”
Physical Transformations and Golf Performance
1:37:19 to 1:38:01
Discussion on the impact of physical changes and training on golfing ability.
Golf Performance and Swing Speed
1:38:01 to 1:39:28
Learn about the impact of weight changes on golf swing speed and distance.
“that was probably hurting a little bit the knees a little bit but it was more of like my breathing I couldn't breathe.”
The Evolution of Golf Popularity
1:39:29 to 1:40:44
Discuss the growth of golf's popularity and the impact of megastars.
“I'm sure somebody will be able to find how to watch you guys on TV this weekend.”
AI's Impact on Golf and Lifestyle
1:40:45 to 1:43:18
Explore how AI technologies are changing the game and personal health.
“Okay, I mean, I was just at Google Camp a little while ago.”
Caddying and Player Relationships
1:43:19 to 1:44:49
Discover the dynamics and importance of caddying in professional golf.
“Did you see Matthew Stafford going to the teleportal immortal thing?”
Unique Golfing Techniques and Stories
1:44:50 to 1:47:28
Hear about interesting techniques and anecdotes from golfing history.
“I just smoked, and it was a cold day, and it popped.”
Fan Engagement and Travel Experiences
1:47:29 to 1:49:49
Learn about fan interactions and the challenges of international travel for golfers.
“And what happened with all the science that you started doing, right?”
Caddy Changes and Their Impact
1:49:50 to 1:52:00
Examine the reasons behind frequent caddy changes on the tour.
“Three global trips, so we go overseas for three or four days.”
The Dynamics of Caddying
1:52:00 to 1:53:40
Explore the complexities and relationships in caddying, especially between Bryson and his caddy.
“You spoke about being good company, and obviously you have the other side of it, which is the more precise job.”
Golf Techniques and Communication
1:53:40 to 1:55:30
Delve into the importance of communication and technique in golf, exemplified by Pat and Bryson's interactions.
“He'll be golfing in the Live Tournament this weekend in Indianapolis.”
Putting Challenges and Advice
1:55:30 to 1:58:10
Witness a series of putting attempts, highlighting the challenges and humorous moments in golf.
“I mean, get your read from Jibo before, too.”
Preparation for the 100-Yard Shot
1:58:10 to 2:01:00
Preparation and anticipation build as Bryson prepares for a 100-yard shot with a $100,000 prize.
“If I do something, I'm a little pissed or whatnot, and throw a club or something like that, he won't pick it up.”
The Need to Know Gambler's Guide
2:01:00 to 2:03:20
Introduction to the second annual gambler's guide for college football, including insights and betting advice.
“Do you want to give an audio read for what's coming out tomorrow at noon?”
DeChambeau's Shot Attempt
2:03:20 to 2:06:00
Bryson DeChambeau attempts a 100-yard shot in a high-stakes challenge, reflecting on the pressure and excitement.
“That's him with, obviously, you see the little khakis on.”
Preparing for Bryson DeChambeau's Challenge
2:06:00 to 2:06:35
The hosts discuss the upcoming challenge with Bryson DeChambeau and the atmosphere around it.
“I don't think that's going to be a series.”
Bryson DeChambeau Attempts the Hole-in-One
2:06:35 to 2:08:40
Bryson begins his attempts at a 100-yard hole-in-one, with commentary from the hosts.
“We'll be back on the other side with Bryson DeChambeau at the Thunderdome short course.”
Darius Butler Joins the Commentary
2:08:40 to 2:09:45
Darius Butler provides insights on Bryson's performances and the unique atmosphere of the challenge.
“We might give away a bunch of money on the other side.”
Bryson's Continuing Attempts and Reactions
2:09:45 to 2:20:00
Bryson continues his attempts at the hole-in-one, with humorous commentary and interactions.
“We come to you live from the Thunderdome short course here in Indianapolis, Indiana.”
Bryson's Golf Challenge and Team Dynamics
2:20:00 to 2:22:36
Discussion about Bryson DeChambeau's performance in a golf challenge and team interactions.
“That was kind of the one thing that was really dialed in.”
Competitive Mindset in Golf
2:22:36 to 2:27:28
Exploring the psychological aspects of competition in golf and how players motivate themselves.
“So, whenever we were sitting out there and we were running that video beforehand, we were trying to figure it all out, he was, like, actually, and the team was, like, got some atmospheric pressure in here.”
NFL Fitness Initiatives
2:27:28 to 2:29:12
Discussion on the NFL's efforts to promote fitness and active lifestyles among youth.
“It feels like that is just a universally agreed upon thing.”
College Football Matchups and Predictions
2:29:12 to 2:31:54
Preview of upcoming college football games and discussion on team performances.
“I'm just now seeing it from the close-up shot.”
Quarterback Development and Expectations
2:31:54 to 2:34:00
Analyzing quarterback performance expectations and team dynamics in college football.
“So, you know, it's kind of a tomato-tomato thing.”
Analyzing Gronowski's Football Skills
2:34:00 to 2:36:24
Discussion about Gronowski's abilities and potential impact on Iowa's season.
“And they're saying he's a leader, ain't he?”
Memories of Marty McGee
2:36:24 to 2:37:29
A nostalgic recounting of trying to call into Marty McGee's show.
“Speaking of this weekend, who watching Marty McGee on Saturday mornings?”
Discussion on Arch Manning's Rankings
2:37:29 to 2:38:28
Debate over Arch Manning's ranking and preseason significance.
“I just want to talk about my friend's opinion on Arch Manning and where he ranks in the SEC.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this DeChambro Tuesday, August 12, 2025, this program begins now. Football! It is majestic. Football is magical and if you look a couple days from now to Thursday and then you look three weeks ahead of that, guess what's happening? What? The NFL season's kicking off. Okay, we did it! We did it! Now, will we say we made it to that day for the next three weeks and two days? Certainly will. We certainly will say, wow, what a great offseason it has been. And we've been so incredibly thankful to all the sports and the athletes and all the coaches and you get it that have kind of carried us for the last few months.
0:44Pat McAfee:And then training camp comes and we get that early spike of adrenaline where, oh, my God, the pads are hitting, the helmets are clashing, and football is back. Then we have a little bit of a down period where it's like, well, what's the news? Well, people are pissed about their contracts. All right, we can talk about that. It's not really happy, though. It's like football is back. We should be happy. It's like, well, these people aren't happy. Also, I had a couple more hold-ins that I don't think we knew about there for a while. Seem to get a little bit more rear with the biggest head in all the football over there in Pittsburgh.
1:13Pat McAfee:Well, then, there's not only contract issues, there's injuries, too. Your favorite player is not going to play this season. Terrible. Why? Because something happened at practice. Jeez, that's a little negative, too. So, we got contract issues. We got injuries that are a little bit negative. But, you know, we do have highlights every single day. Yes. we have player arcs coming and going literally as the days go by. As we are off, I watched a man named Joe Milton go from being traded away from New England after getting drafted in the same draft class as Drake May out of Tennessee with such an incredible arm and athletic ability and ability to do a backflip and full pads of quarterback.
1:45Pat McAfee:He traded from New England down to Dallas. I saw him at training camp over there in Oxnard. He threw a ball 400 yards. This guy threw a 350-yard completion. Jeez. Gone. The internet lit. Joe Milton's the guy. Can't spell Milton without lit. That is certainly in the middle of his name. That's how he plays the football. This guy's getting an opportunity. Dak needs to watch himself. Now, or maybe if Dak slips up again, or maybe if he has such a good training camp, we can trade him away, get some pieces back. Joe Milton's going to be the guy. And he played in the game. And he threw another ball 350 yards.
2:23Pat McAfee:and it was only supposed to be a 25-yard ball. And boy, the internet turned on him quickly. Every single meme or gif that you could have about overthrowing something, Peyton Manning lighting up that Make-A-Wish kid from Saturday Night Live was all over the internet. Numerous things. Joe Milton came and was a superstar in preseason. And then all of a sudden, everybody just lost faith in him and said, this is Joe Milton football, actually. You guys all loved him. That's what training camp football is all about. We think Joe will be back. We think the contracts will get settled. We think the people that get hurt will get healthy, and we think that when the teams kick off three weeks and two days, we're going to have the greatest NFL season of all time.
2:59Pat McAfee:So we have to hold on to that hope. And today, it's going to be a great conversation about the hope of the future. We actually have an Everything DB special today for you that you're going to love called Sophomore Superstars in the Secondary. You know who put it together? Nine-year NFL vet, ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. Sophomore Superstars. We gave away the list whenever we were talking to Casario a couple weeks back, But we didn't dive into why that list was created. We'll certainly do that today. The future of the league is very bright. I'm not just talking about in the secondary, which it certainly is.
3:28Pat McAfee:There was a lot of guys that could have been named to this particular graphic and everything like that. But the league is getting young, it feels like. Doesn't it feel like we have a next generation kind of taking over everything across? Oh, yeah. The people in charge are always trying to get younger, bigger, stronger, faster. And so as you get older, like you mentioned, some of these hold-ins, trying to get your money. That's why it's so important for us. You've got to get your money when you can. You got to strike when you're iron hot. Ironhead, big head over there. He's trying to get his money, which he's earned all pro season last year.
3:55Some other guys, James Cook, he's trying to get his money in running back position, which we know is tough. But, yes. Terry McLaurin. Terry, Terry, Mac, Trey. So the people are always trying to get their money, and the people in charge are always trying to get younger and cheaper.
4:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, younger, cheaper. You're a piece of gum. Once your flavor kind of wears out or gets thin, get a new. Look at this one. Danny Smith. Look how fresh this is. Danny Smith takes ten of them. Look how fresh these are. Look how cheap they are, too, compared to you. What do you want? That's what I thought. Oh, trade him the hell out of town. That is a mentality that some ownership has. You know, down there in Dallas, we know it's ugly with Micah. Just because of how everything's gone. Yesterday, I feel like we got some breaking news that there was, in Jerry's mind, there was a handshake agreement with Micah.
4:39Micah backs out on deal, is how Jerry says this.
4:43Pat McAfee:Micah says, I never agreed to a deal. I have an agent. Mulgat is my agent. We were maybe just talking. I didn't know we were in the middle of an actual negotiation. I didn't know it was an active type of situation that was happening in that conversation. If Mikey even thinks that that conversation ever took place, then maybe Jerry sees it vastly different and all that. But it feels like there is a disrespect situation happening between those two. That's never good, especially in business. Fifth-year guy with the amount of impact that he's had. You would have thought his deal would have been done, already been done.
5:09Pat McAfee:In fact, it's not going to be problematic. Cam Hayward in Pittsburgh. Let's go to Talks to the Table, at Boston Conner, at Ty Schmidt. Come on, man, you dropped a whoa there. Me too. Because Cam was on the show. Oh, yeah. Cam was on the show when we were up early. Happy. TJ Watt was like, let's talk about how much money this got. Right in his face when you're doing that. Yeah. Right numerous times. Hey, how happy are you for this guy with the amount of money he got? And Cam Hayward's thinking, hey, everybody's getting money these days. DK got$30 million. He's never played here. I don't think his dad played here.
5:41Pat McAfee:I don't think his brother played here. He's just getting whatever the hell he wants. Jalen Ramsey? Has he ever been to Pittsburgh? He's getting all the money he wants. Oh, we got Aaron Rodgers paying him$10 million. He wasn't here all off season. Gary Slay, are we paying him? John Smith. John Smith, he's been paid. What have I been here, 100 years? Oh, I've actually the second longest tenured Pittsburgh Steeler in a tie, I believe, with Mike Webster. Ben Roethlisberger's number one longest tenured Pittsburgh Steeler. Cam Hayward's second longest tenured Pittsburgh Steeler. Wow. In a town where, you know, that does.
6:14Pat McAfee:That matters. Means something. Means something. That's why when he comes on the show, we think to ourselves, hey, massive head guy. How about your boy TJ getting broken off? And in his head, massive head. He's like, yeah, everybody's getting broken off but me. That is seemingly what is kind of happening over there. And he said in the negotiations last year, because they just did a new deal, which is what a lot of Yenzers are saying. They're like, Cam, we love you. We appreciate you. One year ago. You signed a deal literally just last year. and he said that whenever we did that deal because he was coming off i think a two sack season maybe or something like that he said that when i make all pro i would like us to revisit this then he goes ahead and makes all pro and he's like excuse me there's a conversation to be had i don't think anybody knew that that was even a situation then yesterday he addresses the media pittsburgh media he knows that if he says anything like this it's going to become a thing feels like it's a little bit of a thing for a guy that we were talking to as if he's a player coach leader for that pittsburgh Steelers team we haven't talked about this at all no at all and it feels like it might be a real
7:11Darius Butler:thing yeah because even with the TJ stuff where it's like hey the TJ is going to get done you know because he was the highest paid player that assumption maybe we didn't have but when it came to a player like Cam not the highest paid he is the face of the Pittsburgh Steelers he is Pittsburgh that was just assumed the part that I thought was interesting that you kind of left out was that when he said, hey, after I have an all-pro year, I want to revisit this contract. He said that they giggled at him. And that, to me, is the most disrespect. If the people that are paying you the money are giggling at yours.
7:46Darius Butler:Am I a con? Yeah. Is that funny to you? Do I amuse you? You don't think I'm going to be all pro? Funny how? What's that supposed to be? And they giggled. A little bit. You disrespected him. Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. A little bit.
8:00Pat McAfee:You're spinning his face. Head like that? career like this? You disrespected him a little bit. Family like this? I don't know. A lot of people are saying 15 million bucks. You're 15th year, bub. We're building up a team to win a Super Bowl for you, basically. You can't spell Pittsburgh without A-Word. Bottom line.
8:24Pat McAfee:The A-Word's silent.
8:27Darius Butler:Same with the D. I kind of like it. Things have been getting too chummy around there. Everything's great. Hey, we're going to go win the Super Bowl. They need a little steel in the water.
8:35Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's go to one half of the hammer. God, Cowboys. I will speak for the entire city of Cincinnati. How's it feel? So, you know, because Cincinnati Bengals fans were attacking us for only mentioning the Trey Hendrickson situation. But I feel like we brought up the T.J. Watt situation more than anybody else. So I would like to say that I feel like we did that. It ended up getting done, which is what everybody was saying, even though I was saying to them, why is he not there if it's going to get done? Cam Hayward thing, him speaking out this late into camp, I think is interesting because they've been around each other.
9:03Pat McAfee:He's been there. He's been in the building. They've obviously seen each other. We've seen the way that training camp is, not only as kids as a fan at that thing, but actually the way it operates. They're very much all kind of with each other the entire time. What are your thoughts?
9:17Darius Butler:I assume the team knew about this, obviously, you would think. I don't think any of the fans knew. When we were there, everything was hunky-dory. You talked about him and TJ coming up on stage. Then we were down on the sideline for practice. I watched Cam practice. He was sweating his balls off. I mean, it was super hot. He was working very hard.
9:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, and all that juice. It was hot, wasn't it? It wasn't all that juice. It was quiet. There was a lot of juice pouring out of their pores
9:43Darius Butler:because they were working so goddamn hard. This isn't about yelling and screaming. This is putting work on the field. but no but then like in the last what three to seven days it was I can't remember exactly because uh we weren't here Shefty came out and said oh there's quietly like a thing going on with Cam Hayward he hasn't been doing team drills and I was like oh that's it like I watched this man practice so I was like that's nothing or whatever and then Cam comes out yesterday and says and he doesn't say like hey I'm not gonna not sit out regular season games he didn't say he would he didn't say he wouldn't either but then you know you look at it like he did get his his two-year 30 million um i believe it's september of 2024 so like that was and then but he did he did he came in and he had another all pro season he has 30 sacks in his in the last four years four-time all pro right yes four-time first team all pro one time second team all pros like i mean he's
10:31Pat McAfee:been there he's done a little career yeah disrespect them a little 20 second high
10:36Darius Butler:d tackle i understand um but i did see our uh correspondent for the pittsburgh sealers mark bolley said that he thinks there is a way to easily get this done make both sides happy so that's where I'm at right now. Do I love that it's happening right now? No, because things have been so awesome and hunky-dory over there in Pittsburgh.
10:54Pat McAfee:Trace don't have figured out too for me. Oh, no, I know.
10:57Darius Butler:You don't have to say it. Also, I don't think Hayward or Pittsburgh shares any of the same letters.
11:02Pat McAfee:H is in there for sure.
11:04Darius Butler:Yeah, that one. Pretty big news.
11:06Pat McAfee:Wow. Yeah.
11:07Darius Butler:What?
11:08Pat McAfee:Thank you, Dr. Pepper. Love you, Pat. The official drink of the Thunderdome. But not only Thunderdome, of Fansville as well.
11:17Darius Butler:Oh, yeah.
11:18Pat McAfee:Do you know that Dr. Pepper has been with college football for 88 years? 88? Wow. Holy shit. Do you know how I know that? How? They sent me over a thing saying, hey, you know, because this Dr. Pepper deal, a little behind-the-scenes footage or info, was it the SEC championship game I was at down there on the sideline? Yeah. Where they were preparing for the tuition toss. The tuition toss. The CEO of Dr. Pepper was down there, and I think I even on the show I said I think I just talked to the CEO because I was uh chirping during commercial break at the people that are over there I thought it was people rehearsing it but it was also the entire Dr.
11:55Pat McAfee:Pepper corporate executive executive team the e-suite I guess was yes or the c-suite whatever the hell it is was out there I had no idea so I meet him and uh the gentleman uh Tim starts looking into I guess our operation everything and is like hey we would like to be a part if you guys would like do you guys like Dr. Pepper was their first question and And we're like, uh. Love it. Yeah. Yeah, we're like, Dr. Pepper, what do you think? And we started chit-chatting, and they were like, we would love to become the official drink of the Thunderdome. And I'm like, you got it. Deal. Shout out to Dr.
12:26Pat McAfee:Pepper. We appreciate the hell out of you. Hell yeah. Love you, doctor. Hey, is it Saturday? Not yet. But when it is. Like when you wake up and it's a Saturday? Yep. What are you drinking? Dr. Pepper. Every time. Is it Saturday? Yeah. hypothetically speaking yes it's saturday if it is saturday yeah feels like it drinking dr pepper okay oh yeah if it's saturday i'm drinking dr pepper what about friday hell if it's friday yeah monday but if it's saturday we'll definitely talk about it uh let's talk about some more news uh shout to dr pepper we appreciate you legit that's a big deal for our company really cool yeah and also their company dogs if you look into the way they've come to where they are, the entirety of it.
13:14Pat McAfee:Good business down there in Texas. Beautiful. We appreciate it. Shout out. I'm going to swim down there in Baylor. That's right. Chip and Joanna Gaines. Magnolia Farms. Loved being down there. Watched some docs about that place. There's a religion down there. In Waco?
13:36Darius Butler:Cool docuseries. They were very serious about there. Not Silius. They were serious.
13:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Davidians really... Play no games.
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13:44Darius Butler:That's Christian, I'm assuming. What's that? Christian? Branch. Branch, Christian? Nah, I don't know.
13:50Pat McAfee:I don't think anybody's claiming that. No, certainly not. No, it is... It was completely... You'll look into it someday, but what you need to know is from that moment forward, that city and that area, Dr. Pepper's a massive piece of it, had become beautiful, and we're very thankful for Dr. Pepper. I think we even did a tour of the damn museum that we could have went toward the facility, I think. Whatever. Dr. Pepper, we appreciate the hell out of him. There's some other news out of the NFL that is a bummer, and I talked about this earlier. Hey, Ty? Yeah. Oh, no. Uh-oh. What's going on with Jordan Love?
14:22You know what? Listen, he banged his hand on a helmet on his last play of the game against the Jets. Anytime something like this comes out where they have to, like, really reassure you, like, hey, this is very minor. It's not a big deal. He's not going to miss week one of the season. It is a ligament injury in his throwing hand and his thumb. So I'm trying not to, you know, hit the doomsday button and make a big deal because it sounds like he is going to be able to play week one. But I need to see Jordan Love practicing. You know, I don't want him week one being the next time he throws a football.
14:56And unfortunately, this has kind of been outside of his first year as a starter where he kind of came onto the scene and the Packers went to the playoffs and beat the hell out of the Cowboys. Last year he got hurt before he could even get started, and it kind of hampered him throughout the whole year. So I'm hoping that this really is not as serious as they're saying, but any time your starting quarterback has a ligament injury in the thumb of his throwing hand, yeah, there's going to be a little cause for concern going into the regular season. It's his left hand.
15:25Pat McAfee:It's his left hand. Left hand, right? That would be great news. Left, left, left. Okay, so a lot of the stuff I was reading was saying it was throwing hand, which is why I was going to panic. But if it's left hand, no big deal. But either way, he's not going to be practicing for probably the rest of camp, which sucks. Let's talk about more procedures. Landon Dickerson, it's being reported that he had a meniscus situation. Now, is it a full tear, partial tear? He's getting a procedure. They're hoping he's back for regular season, which would be an insane feat, especially for a man of his size. I've had my meniscus done a couple different times.
16:03Pat McAfee:It's always taken me multiple, like, month and a half, two months maybe, even to get back. And then I've seen a teammate get a meniscus procedure done and be back in, like, three, four weeks. So I think there's levels to the shit when it comes to the meniscus. But nonetheless, still a very real procedure and still very real rehab to get that thing back on the other side. Yeah, he's an absolute dog, though. So I, and I may be wrong here, but the amount of offensive linemen and I've been around especially that are built and look like him. I expect him to be out there. What's that mean? You're saying white guy?
16:36He's a fat white guy. Put his picture back up again, please. Did he play through some shit last year?
16:43Pat McAfee:Oh, it's probably. So in college, I guess he had some injuries to his legs, his knees, lower body. I don't remember exactly what they were. I don't want to pinpoint it. But since he's got to the Eagles, it's been like locked in. So this would be, yeah, I think so too, especially with the way that offense line is and if they're projecting it already there's a reason joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a college football national champion super bowl champion rider cup winner ladies and gentlemen aj hawker good to see you brother we're about to have a life-changing moment happen here in a matter of moments but before we get to that uh anything you want to hit on that we just chit-chatted about that maybe you had some uh extra thoughts that we didn't scurry cam hayward and steers whoa whoa jordan love baby he's getting the procedure landon Dickerson.
17:27Pat McAfee:He's going to be back for the season opener in three weeks in two days. And Dr. Pepper, official drink of Thunderdome. Anything you want to talk about?
17:37Darius Butler:Chuck Alderton, I believe. He was the Dr. Pepper guy who came with the formula that Dr. Pepper is and what we have now these days. So yeah, shout out to Chuck. Shout out to Dr. Pepper, man. Who doesn't like a nice, ice-cold Dr. Pepper? Thank you, Chuck. 23 flavors. What's so funny? What are we laughing at? There's one an obscure stat.
17:59Pat McAfee:I think your connection's terrible, I believe. You got cut off there. I think you were saying everybody knows Chuck?
18:09Darius Butler:Yep, there it goes. Charles Alderton, yep, he graded Dr. Baffert.
18:14Pat McAfee:Okay, that is such an A.J. Hawke. All right, before we have A.J. come back, we have the opportunity once again to be a part of a moment that'll change. you know, somebody's life. But not only this particular person, his entire family, his entire community, his entire school, IMG. Jeez. Feels like there's a lot of these coming out of this particular high school. This high school had a top ten pick in I forget how many different drafts over the last eight years or so. Yeah, it's like eight straight. Eight straight years top ten pick this particular high school. Well, I think there's another dog coming out of there at least.
18:49Ladies and gentlemen, five-star, Edge Rusher from IMG.
18:53Pat McAfee:I believe he's 6 '4". 240? Ladies and gentlemen, Jake Kruhl.
18:59Darius Butler:Yay! How are you, Jake? I'm great. Thank you guys for having me on. This is going to be awesome.
19:06Pat McAfee:Jake, we're so incredibly lucky to have you. I believe, is this family alongside of you here? What are their names? Yeah, I got my mom right here. Her name's Amy. Here's my dad. That's Corey. Miss Amy, Mr. Corey, congratulations on raising a hell of a boy. Hell of a boy. I don't think they can hear us maybe because you have headphones on. No, sir, they cannot. All right, Jake. We appreciate you letting us be a part of this. We know your final three. I think the entire world knows your entire three with Ole Miss, Texas, and Oklahoma. You'll be heading to the SEC. The entire SEC Twitter world, X world, was abuzz last night.
19:44Pat McAfee:Excited to hear where you're headed. Why don't you let us all know where you'll continue your football career at, dog? Yes, sir. Thank you for having me on. First, I got to thank God. I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school my whole life. So it's been a huge part of my life, just having faith. It's kind of guided me in the right direction. The next thing I got to go into is my youth football coaches. That's where it all started. They kind of gave me the passion to want to do this at the next level. After that, back to my old high school, Bishop Moore, they were a huge thing of getting me to where I am now.
20:14After that, I have all my IMG coaches. This is the best high school in the country. It's made me the player I am. It's the reason I'm getting to go to all these top schools. and with that comes all my amazing teammates right here uh yeah so getting to compete with them every single day that's what makes you better right iron sharpens iron wouldn't be who i am without that after that don zelotti he found me he's the reason i'm at img he scouted me when i was a little scrawny white kid over at bishop more but uh now i'm here now we're playing with the best we're competing with the best after that aaron jones at trenchman academy he's my position trainer he's taught me all the technique i know a lot of people say when they watch me on film is that i'm a technician i give a lot of credit to him for that like he's taught me so much about football the passion i have for the game uh the dedication the obsessiveness of wanting to be great of wanting to make sure all your techniques are right after that ben daly cruise the daly cruise sports performance he's my uh physical trainer he makes sure i stay away from injuries he keeps my body right no matter what a lot of the bend a lot of the explosiveness that's thanks to him and lastly uh my advisor my recruiting advisor cliff hill from west virginia what uh yes sir west virginia coal miner hell yeah brother oh yes sir yeah he keeps my head straight he's made sure i keep the main thing the main thing made sure i'm focused throughout this whole process he's been he's been awesome for me on and lastly my parents i can't do anything without them uh they've been so supportive of me all the opportunities i have i wouldn't be here without them so uh they're awesome and i love them so much but with all that being said uh for this next chapter of my football career i'm going to be chasing sec championships uh chasing national championships chasing greatness at the university of oklahoma
22:07Pat McAfee:congratulations to the cruels congratulations to you jake and uh
22:19Pat McAfee:boomer boomer i know i can't hear shit love y 'all yeah yeah we're good we're back hey we'll let you get to your celebration brother uh boomer sooner world is gonna light up because of this news and you talked about yourself being a technician we watched your film earlier today you had a couple dip rips couple i mean you are and yeah you're a weapon dude we cannot wait to watch you get out there to Oklahoma. Why was that inevitably your decision? And how excited are you to get out there to beautiful Norman? Yeah, I think the number one thing it came down to was trust. I've known that coaching staff for a while.
22:55Coach Chavis has been awesome to me. I've known him for such a long time. He's kept the same thing, the same thing, no matter what. I love the defense Coach Venables has. It's super aggressive. They chase TFLs. And the way you get sacks, which is what I like to do, is you got to get them behind in the chain. So playing that aggressive style, that leads to more sacks. I think that was the main thing when it led to making my decision.
23:13Pat McAfee:Jake, you're unbelievable to watch. I'm thankful to have learned your story. Your parents should be incredibly proud of the boy that they raised. Your speech was epic. You think in everybody, including the Catholic Church? Amen.
23:29Pat McAfee:Brother, congratulations. Hey, one more thing. One more thing before I leave. I know you're a fan of IMG. I want to invite you to come down here, come see the boys, and hopefully I want to come up to Indianapolis, is maybe do an internship or something. I just want to learn a lot about you and how you do everything. Hey, you got it, brother. We'll come down there. No problem at all. Yeah, deal. Hey, put her out there, pal. Yeah, and that ain't no Jerry and Micah deal. No, we're good. Nah, it's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's real. No doubts, Cowboys. Congratulations. Good luck in Oklahoma, ladies and gentlemen.
23:58Pat McAfee:Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you so much. And the next Sooner, J. Cruel. Yay! All right, so we got to get him up here. Yeah. 6 '4", 230. He's going to have to relax a little bit, though. Yeah, earn his strength. I don't love that some 17-year-old's walking in here and I look up at him.
24:14Darius Butler:Yeah, but we got a national champion that we can kind of test. A couple one-on-ones with D-Bones. You want to see what you got? You want to change greatness? We got greatness sitting over there eating goldfish right now. That guy's got two rings, bro. Yeah, not just goldfish. Not just goldfish. And cookies. And candy. And pop. And fat. Starburst. That's not real. Anything that is edible.
24:40Pat McAfee:Animals, raccoons. And he's drinking a nice, cold Dr. Pepper.
24:46Darius Butler:A little bit of that sweet-necked Dr. Pepper.
24:50Pat McAfee:Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, with great connection, a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, riding cup winner, A.J. Hall.
24:57Darius Butler:A.J., great to see you, buddy. Great to be back. Yeah, congrats to Jake, Oklahoma. Yeah, great school. I do like how he bends around the edge, no question.
25:05Pat McAfee:Dude, how about that? He hit him with a little altitude change.
25:09Darius Butler:You can't teach that bend, man. You really can't.
25:11Pat McAfee:It's like his third one, I think. We all know he'll be facing this way. There's one where he's coming.
25:17Darius Butler:Beautiful long arm right there.
25:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's got it all. He said something. But, you know, we're at a different time. Oh, much. At IMG, I mean, he was thinking a strength. This is the one. No, no, that's not the one. He's got a turnstile. This is the one. This is the one. Ah, that one. Show hands, duck. That is, yeah, he's a weapon. He had a recruiting specialist out of West Virginia. Shout out. He had a trainer, strength coach, technician. Yeah, position coach. Yeah, and it's all going to work. Yeah. It's all going to work. This is it. They have the blueprint now.
25:55Darius Butler:What's insane, too, is how much bigger. Everybody. Some of these dudes come on here, and he plays edge, but he's still in high school. How much weight realistically will these kids put on in the first year?
26:06Pat McAfee:He'll be 250, no problem. At least 10 pounds. I mean, like that. Now, IMG, though, I think they probably have good strength. You're right. If I had to guess.
26:15Darius Butler:But you just grow into your body, you know. You know how you grow into – you become a man in college this first couple years especially.
26:20Pat McAfee:Did you see that kid go from Arkansas to Cal, that wide receiver? Yes. Was that real? That didn't feel real. That had to be at least a year and a half. A lot of people are saying it wasn't, But even if it was just a six-month transformation or a seven-month transformation, from the ages of 18 to AJ's point to 23, your body, let alone if you're going to have first-class strength and conditioning and nutrition and everything like that, your body's naturally going to change. I mean, that's just going to happen. Some of these dudes that we've seen in the past have gone from like actually six-foot tall 185 to somehow 6 '3 255 in a four to five year period it's like there's no way when they were recruiting you they had any idea that this was possible but it's like a lot of hard work to get to that point those workouts in college are a fucking nightmare i don't know if they're still like that they used to be we used to be scared to death to go to those workouts i knew i saw it
27:14Darius Butler:somewhere this summer i looked up dan landing said their average gain for their freshman was 20 pounds this year.
27:20Pat McAfee:It's unbelievable. That's not. It's muscle. Here's the thing I saw on, this is from Hog Ball Barber, former Arkansas Lodger student, just six months after transfer from Arkansas to Cal. Now, he might hate what's going on in Arkansas right now, so he's taking a shot at the Arkansas thing, or that might be real. Nonetheless, that picture on the left to that picture on the right, he's not just the only guy in college football that this happens to. Like, this is a very... That's crazy. Six months is crazy. I don't think that. I don't think that's humanly possible.
27:49Darius Butler:I'm trying to read it with the hair. Can we get a good judgment on if his hair? I know.
27:55Pat McAfee:That's a quick six months. I don't know. It looks very similar length. It does lengthwise. Post-lift, like rafter lift. Wake up. Post-lift, little lightning, little flexing.
28:04Darius Butler:Yeah, maybe you could gain 15, couldn't you? Shoulders are back in that first one.
28:08Pat McAfee:Shoulders flexed in the second one. Whatever the case, look out for Desmond James. This guy's been working his ass off this offseason, which is what it involves. There's so much work. It feels like these guys are professionals since high school. That kid was talking like a professional right there.
28:25Darius Butler:I assume every big-time recruit is that way. They just, hey, I am fully mature. I am already a pro. I'm approaching everything like I am a professional. That's what it feels. I hope they still have fun, honestly. I really do. I hope they still have normal high school experiences. I don't even know if they're allowed to, dude. Definitely not at IMG. That's not a normal high school experience at all. I mean, they're still having a good time. For sure. Based on what I see on my timeline. They're what? They're still goofing off. Well, that's being goofed off. That's probably the kids that go to college and still don't make it.
28:54Pat McAfee:I don't know if they go. Yeah, it might be like paying people for things. It's goofing off. Electronically. It's kids. Yep. That's a wild thing to wake up to. Just go private. Just press private on that thing. Everybody on everything. Everybody on everything. Don't show your location either. Now, these youngs should know that. Because they've kind of came up in this world. But still, I don't know. teenagers are always going to be like that's what we're kind of like these dudes are still going to have a good time i think but it's just different way these days you know it's a much different way now granted is that next generation back because it's always like hopefully yeah that's how some people think ap to you're saying that you hope this next generation which is called the alpha generation is that really what they're called yeah they're called they're called you remember that, AJ?
29:46Pat McAfee:Remember the Alpha Generation?
29:49Darius Butler:Where were we when we heard about the Alpha Generation? Yeah, I do remember. I was tucked away in some pantry of a place and heard all about the Alpha Generation. People were trying to market directly to this Alpha Generation.
30:00Pat McAfee:AJ was trying to escape the conversation, so he thought he was leaving the room, but he walked into a pantry, and obviously a pantry is a no exit. Yeah, that's a cul-de-sac. Yeah, exactly. It is a cul-de-sac. I was stuck.
30:14Darius Butler:I was stuck.
30:14Pat McAfee:And he was in there, and there was a whole conversation happening out there. He left me in conversation, to be clear. So kind of instant universe. Instant karma. Bang, instant.
30:25Darius Butler:I wasn't really part of the conversation, to be honest. They didn't really need me there. I was kind of like the third wheel.
30:30Pat McAfee:No, you were very much a part of it. You were very much a part of it, we thought. But the alpha generation was being pitched. That was a few years back, too. They were thinking, I think about this alpha generation. Yeah, it was a Super Bowl, right? I was like, man, you're a much deeper thinker than me. That's what I said. i don't think about the generations i don't you need to start do they like dr pepper yeah we're all they're probably gonna like us if that's what i look into i don't know the generation are they a dr pepper generation they're probably gonna like us if i had to guess are they gonna have an ice cold beer every once in a while right probably gonna like us are you gonna drink a jack dame's wrong probably gonna like us do it like ball probably going to like us.
31:13If they don't on most of those things,
31:16Pat McAfee:we know they are going to hate us. Now, we could change some things, I guess, for the Alpha generation. I don't know how we can get a little bit more lit. But for me, there's going to be some in that Alpha and some in that Z. They ain't even going to go up to those goddamn boomers up there. I think they're going to like us. And that's who we are looking for in this entire thing. You need to take a more 30 ,000-foot view of this world. Brother, I smoke. I'm up there all the time. I understand what you're saying Those people are geniuses AJ AJ was trying to escape a genius Just ask him
31:45Darius Butler:They'll tell you how genius they are
31:48Pat McAfee:Unbelievable AJ did not like these people Immediately
31:52Darius Butler:I have a healthy Skepticism I would say When they're getting pitched horrible ideas
31:59Pat McAfee:Which In my life All the time But they could be a great idea You're right Somebody mocked the pool noodle. Billionaire.
32:09Darius Butler:Good point.
32:11Pat McAfee:You can use it for anything.
32:13Darius Butler:Billionaire. Got a few of them.
32:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, you didn't even do it to golf, remember? Yeah. Put that thing in. Speaking of, we've got DeChambeau joining us live in stew for the second hour. Cannot wait to chit-chat with him. He's part of the President's Sports and Fitness Council that was announced via a press conference at the White House that had no real reaction. No. None. Nobody really responded. No. Just kind of. Kind of nice. Like a tree fall into the woods. Ho-hum just kind of moved along. I actually looked at the entire committee. Wayne Ogretzky's on there. Roger Goodell's on there. Gary Bettman's on there. I mean, you're talking about like a who's who in the history.
32:47Pat McAfee:Yeah. And a who's who in the history of sports is on there. And I believe they're just being tasked with, hey, do you guys just make sure sports are okay? Because there was a time there where people that weren't sports people were starting to get into sports people. And, hey, we needed to just kind of keep this thing going. They did. And this council, I think, is a good thing. We'll talk to DeChambeau about that. A man who was up for it because of how great he was and how great he is. Not only in the morning, but now all damn day, including your Monday nights now. Ladies and gentlemen, Emmy Award winner.
33:20Pat McAfee:A sideline reporter for Monday Night Football now. What? An ESPN pundit. Friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schreiber. Yes, Grace! Yes. This is what we wanted. This is it. This is it. I am reporting live from Jets camp. The Jets and Giants just finished their inter-camp scrimmage, and it was good. It was lively. There was a live hitting. Pat, it's good. Football's here. I'm touching the grass. It was Monday night football assignment. I get to touch the grass. Five different games, some good games on the slate. I'm excited to work with this crew. It's Katie George on the other sideline, and of course, Fowler, Riddick, and my man Dan O.
33:59So completely stoked about this. It's one of the main reasons I was so into ESPN was because I was able to wear some different hats. And to get back on the sidelines like I did on my Fox and NFL Network early days is a thrill. So pumped up, man. This is great.
34:13Pat McAfee:You've earned it. You deserve it. We're happy you're getting put out there. The boys and I were chit-chatting about this announcement earlier. And they all mentioned how you used to do this on a very regular basis. And then we all mentioned about how post-Super Bowl you're always on the field with a microphone seemingly for the last few years. You really enjoy being down there in the mix, huh? We like it. We like getting down there. you know it from when you guys do those simulcasts there's nothing like it and you could sit on your couch all you want but when you're on the field and you're actually in the action and you can report what you see it's different i like to think i offer a different perspective um i used to give like front office nuggets and conversations from coaches that predated the game um and would give you like live real-time stuff so i i love it uh fox for the last several super bowls would put me out there and say, collect all the sounds you can get.
35:00And I would find a way to get, you know, the Bradley Cooper interview or the Miles Teller interview and then Saquon and all these guys. And I love being in the mix. So I'm thrilled, man. I haven't done it in a couple of years. And I've made my bones at Fox doing sidelines. And I was on some six and seven crews. So I was doing a lot of like Browns versus Lions when it wasn't the Lions of today. And you really own your skills on that. Orchid Doors Browns. Orchid Doors Browns. Yeah, yeah, I got it. No. 2.2. This is a different era. Anyway, I swear to God, I am so fired up to do it. And even just being on the field today, it was like, all right, I get to get back in the mix.
35:37Our first game we're doing is week two. I'm on that other crew, the BD crew, and it's going to be great. We're doing Chargers versus Raiders in Vegas. So, like, shot right out of the cannon. We've got two great coaches in Harbaugh and, of course, Pete Carroll, and we're going to be on the call for that. So it's pretty cool.
35:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, and Tom Brady's probably going to be roaming as an owner. He's starting to look even more fit. He's tanned up all the time. He just got out of that European vacation. He was sitting there having dinner with Bezos. They were having a good conversation. I'm seeing this guy. Tom looks good, doesn't he? I think he looks up. His statue, one of the best statues we've seen.
36:14Darius Butler:Truly perfect.
36:16Pat McAfee:Legitimately, I would too if I was both. He's like foxy, but four inches taller. He can go to maybe five, six inches taller. You're right. and cool yeah he's very cool the coolest uh but he can just go to the mannequin brother give me whatever the hell he's looking very nice man hey go thanks for representing the sport just looks like you're gliding everywhere you go tom looks like you're doing a great job we uh appreciate that his statue phenomenal okay so that should be a great one chargers raiders excited to watch you week two and the four other games that you'll be doing going forward you said you're at jets giants training camp right now uh is that the most new york place of all time i assume that's a hot ticket i assume all the finance bro i assume everybody's trying to get on the field over there right every this is this is big new york royalty i assume at this thing yes a lot of patagonia vests a lot of guys dipping out of jp morgan and goldman sachs they got the khakis on they maybe took the blade uh helicopter down here they made it the truth of the matter is uh it's only 2 000 people and it was just jet season ticket holders and that's today so you got 2 000 jets fans watching and they were hitting and then tomorrow it goes to giants camp in east rutherford and it's 2 000 giants fans that get to watch and then they play the the preseason game of course this weekend but really cool and like malik neighbors wasn't out there today and jalen hyatt wasn't out there today but just about everyone else was out there and i'm telling you i don't want to exaggerate i know it's preseason 51 on the giants abdul carter is just absolutely everywhere guys.
37:49And now there's nothing against Max Mitchell who was lining up against him. Jets offensive lineman doing his thing. Abdel Carter was in the backfield the entire day. And I'm watching him. I've seen all these Jets fans biting their tongue. Alright, this guy's pretty good. Flying all over the field. And I'll tell you, Jackson Dart threw the ball well too. So my... Oh no. Unblockable. Jackson Dart can throw the rock. And then without Malik Neighbors and without Jalen Hyatt The Jets' defense dominated the Giants' ones also. So defense won the day on both solids this afternoon.
38:22Darius Butler:Go ahead, AJ. Shregs, what about Justin Fields? I don't know if you talked about him when you cut out or not. How does he look? And what does it just look like both these teams going against each other? Does it feel different? I guess, I mean, obviously the Jets with Aaron Glenn now at the helm as the head coach. Dable, we know how fired up he is. How does it feel, I guess, the atmosphere out there? Does it feel like they both have a lot of optimism? Yeah, and it's a fresh start for both in many ways. I would start with the Jets. Completely new brass. Completely new culture. Completely new entire energy around this team.
38:54They took care of their guys. So Sauce is a franchise guy. Garrett Wilson is a franchise guy. Smallwood, Quinnen Williams. They've got their guys. Justin Fields, I don't think they're going to ask Justin Fields to throw the ball 25 times in a game. I would need to classify Justin Fields as one of the stars of this Jets team. I mean, they ran the ball against Green Bay in a way where they had 38 minutes of possession. Again, preseason game. But they ran the ball up the gut. They've got a running quarterback now. That's what they're going to identify as. The Giants, boundless optimism because neighbors has been unguardable at wide receiver.
39:29Abdul Carter and Dexter Lawrence and Brian Burns on your defensive line. And then, of course, you've got a quarterback situation where they kind of like darts so far, and he's looked really good. So, again, August, these teams could both go out and win four games. But if you're walking the field today and you've got luminaries, you've got everyone from Mark Sanchez to Sean O 'Hara. You've got both sides, like they're alumni, watching. And everyone's jacked up on both teams.
39:52Pat McAfee:Well, they should be jacked up, especially because we've got a finger-painted Peter Schrager on this particular show. You sound amazing. Just want to let you know, we're going to call you back. Yeah, right. Yeah, we're going to try to call you back, get a little better connection with old Schrags there out at New York camp. Hey, he's talked about Abdul Carter being the guy. We knew that, AJ. I mean, we kind of knew that down there at the Orange Bowl or whatever it was.
40:14Darius Butler:Yeah, we got to see him from about 10 yards away. We watched him over and over. What a relentless motor. And he wasn't even healthy at the time, too. So I cannot imagine when the guy's actually feeling almost 100%.
40:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, and relentless is kind of the word that was describing him whenever he was in college. It feels like that's continuing right into the NFL. How about Rosenhaus coming out and saying it would be disrespectful to ask him not to play in a game of this magnitude. So to people thinking that I am telling Abdul Carter, one of the toughest, he goes right into a fool, Abdul Carter, one of the toughest, most relentless players that we have ever seen in football. To tell him not to play in a playoff game would be so disrespectful to Abdul, his family, everything. Like that is literally how Drew, because remember the spin was that Drew was going to tell him not to play.
41:10Pat McAfee:That's what everybody was saying. We just so happened to have our show down there. Send Drew a text saying, hey, they're saying, you're saying, Abdul Carter not going to play. You're going to tell him not to play. You want to come on the show? Absolutely. Where are you? Send him at the Orange Bowl. Do you need us to get you in? I know my way around. Then he kind of dropped in from the clouds and just saddled up next to us. And then he went right on a run about Tyree Kill. That really got everybody jacked up. So that was an amazing time. But the way he talked about Abdul and the way everybody talks about him, I mean, even Schrager and I have to watch him.
41:41Pat McAfee:It's like, here's a guy. This is a guy guy. Yeah, and that was one of the things where, you know, this era of athletes where you're like, okay, are these guys too spoiled? Are they making too much money? And as an agent, that probably would have been the best sound business advice. Hey, rest up. Get ready for the draft of your thing. You're already going to be a top three or four pick. But for him to come out and show his toughness and basically get out there and dominate with one arm. And Peter talked about it. When you are on the ground, you can see it differently. We saw immediately this is a top-tier NFL guy.
42:08I'm excited to see him, especially with the depth that they have around him on that line in New York. He's going to be able to eat and not be overused as well.
42:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, Dexter really helps in there. I mean, that is a game changer. And as the Jets were making a play against you, I think. Yeah. Yeah. The Packers, I watched. Yeah, it just happened. Jets, Packers. Sorry. I don't remember all of the week one play season. Oh, come on. You got to. You're on my best. On the week two. You're losing. I know everybody said I'm getting lazy. We're on a beach. I know. I was this morning, I was like thinking of a play, and I was like, who the hell were they? Man, that was just like four, five, six, seven. When the hell was that game? Oh, who's playing when? We don't know.
42:49Pat McAfee:Where can I watch NFL Plus? NFL Plus is where you can watch all these games. But about if you're not near a tablet or something like that, how do I watch? You don't. You just got to see highlights. That Jets D-line, too. I mean, they were. Oh, yeah, they were. The reason why Jordan Love is getting a procedure right now is because that Jets D-line. And we forget because of how catastrophic those teams have been, AJ, that there are some very, very, very good parts of both of those teams. And it's like the Giants need it. Jets need it. It's an interesting time over there. And we're going to be forced to watch it because they're the biggest market in the world.
43:23Darius Butler:Yeah, we will. I remember Aaron Glenn, if you heard, I don't know how many months ago, they were doing an interview with him, and he was talking about guys bringing in to play defense. He's like, we don't care if you fit the scheme. We want to see, like, it's about play style. You need to ingratiate yourself with the defense and the culture that we have and how we play, like the relentless effort, 11 guys to the ball, all of that stuff. So, yeah, either way, you know that defense is going to play hard. Aaron Glenn, he is not scared to get on his guys and make sure the standard is very, very high.
43:47Pat McAfee:The Matt Stafford stuff is getting interesting. Wild. Very much so. What is this, AJ? We saw him at the ESPNs. He looked good. Saw him sitting in a – Backs are weird.
43:56Darius Butler:You know, backs are weird, though. Like backs all of a sudden you can be good for a couple months and then he wakes up and it's weird one day or you sneeze
44:02Pat McAfee:or something happens to throw something out yeah sneeze cough laugh yeah i mean you talk about it you you accidentally drink too much you know yeah and that just tightened up and then he he and now granted we assume that it's a muscle or something along nerve something like that if it's bones as well i mean there's so much your back's so big you know i don't want to i don't want to sound like a complete doofus but you don't think about it okay you don't see it That soundbitch is way, where's it at? Way back there. It's back there. There's so many things. That's why they're saying it's a back. Like, we have no idea.
44:38Pat McAfee:That could be so many different things. And then they bring in this bazillion dollar life trailer. Is that an Airstream? That seems like a red flag. That's originally an Airstream, which is a high quality travel living RV, if you would like. They have multiple different styles and anything for you if you need it. It is very dependable, durable, and although it looks like it could just get blown over, it won't. It is very sturdy for you. It's a great rig that Airstream is there. Now, these people bought a very expensive Airstream and said, you know what? Let's make it even more expensive. We're going to make it super-duper life one.
45:15Pat McAfee:You're walking here. You're going to spend some time in here, and you're just going to feel elevated. I think it's maybe a Gary Brecka type thing. Okay.
45:24Darius Butler:Hyperbaric deprivation. There's red light. There's red light therapy in there. That's one of the stations, if you will.
45:29Pat McAfee:I would assume this is a wellness device that aims to optimize human performance and promote holistic health through a combination of non-invasive technologies. They got AQ Shipley's red light face thing in there. They got the back thing in there. I assume they got that little sit-in thing. O2 chamber. Yeah, that you sit in. Makes you healthy after 40 minutes if you've got a cold or something like that. You sit in there. All right, cryo tank. You never heard of that one? No. I saw it in a guy's house. a very expensive house this guy had and uh it was beautiful beautiful house okay and he had an entire part of the house that was strictly to making him live forever and uh he had all the tricks in there i mean we had steam room sauna cold tub face hot tub hot tub face red light body red light then there was this little concoction over here you get down in there you sit in there 30 40 minutes whatever you got you don't have anymore i'm like what when do you do this every day i don't want anything ever add four days to his life that's enough hey you never know what you're gonna get done in those four this guy has 27 hours in his 24 hours as well so that's not just four days that's actually four and a half days for this guy but um nonetheless uh i don't like that this is happening you know and i assume this company probably knows somebody at the rams and i assume somebody uses this company i assume that this is a thing because guys will use no stone unturned to get healthy i mean we're sitting here on the screen with a guy you know yeah this guy drank his own piss exactly so no no that's non-invasive maybe they're doing that in there
47:06Darius Butler:if someone said it did help you if someone said it cured injuries i'm sure much more people would
47:10Pat McAfee:try drinking their own pee work for you so can we just get it cleared because i i am a little bit
47:15Darius Butler:torn on this entire thing. What's that? You did not drink your urine? Never. Never tasted any piss. Mine, anyone else's. Nothing. You sure? Right-handed guy? Not a P guy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm not, that's, you know, I don't you can, I understand you going about it and saying things like this and bringing it up, you ever drink your own piss, Chris Paul? Like any, any guess we have in person, you want to ask him and say that I did it, which I get it. But no, I didn't. And even if I did, if I did, I wouldn't be like scared to admit it. I would tell you.
47:44Pat McAfee:But I think, why does my head believe? Because, you know, I feel like. Okay. Why does it believe that you did that? Why? I don't know why that's. Did you say it one time jokingly in a conversation?
47:57Darius Butler:I never said it. We've heard UFC fighters say that they've tried drinking their own pee. Yeah. Well, one time he pissed all over the floor of the old office. And he got down his hands and knees and lapped it up like a dog. Yeah, we thought that he might have just spilled it from his growler. So much recovery juice. I'll do this build on the floor. My Yeti full of pee I just brought up.
48:17Pat McAfee:What I'm saying, though, is guys have done a lot of obscure, and women are professional athletes, have done a lot of very obscure. And actually, you know, I'm going to say you haven't done the most obscure things that these dudes have just strictly because you're a smarter species than us. So, like, that is just what it is. If you tell a professional athlete that if they do, like AJ just said, you do this, you will have a better career. There are dudes, not all dudes. You know, there's certain levels to commitment to all those types of things. But there are guys that are wired. I mean, you look at Mac Hollins.
48:50Pat McAfee:He shows up barefoot every game. And then he just told, I believe, Bussin that the reason why he does that is because you've got to face some hard shit every day. You know, I can't get too soft. It's like, okay, so he's a guy that will do whatever if it feels like it challenges him, makes him better. So this little trailer thing didn't really bother me that it was there. But the fact that Matthew Stafford was supposed to do individuals, allegedly, individual drills, and then he's in street clothes, and then he's in his teleporting device? I don't know. You know, that's kind of my thoughts on Adee.
49:19Yeah, I'm definitely worried. We talked about it yesterday just because of who Matt Stafford is and who he's always been. I mean, the fact that he's even still playing. Like, he got drafted at the top of our class, and he's still playing. So, for him not to, you know, show up to training camp and not want to take all the reps. We know starting quarterbacks, especially franchise quarterbacks like he is, they want to take all these reps in training camp. So the fact that he's not there in practice, and then they said he was going to be there on a certain day, Monday, didn't show up, didn't practice there.
49:45I am concerned getting this close to the season. I don't know if I'm more or less concerned after seeing that gimmick. It is L.A. and L.A. and Arizona. You see some weird shit like that from time to time. So we'll see. I hope he's healthy because that is a great roster, and obviously he's a great quarterback and still can spin it.
50:03Pat McAfee:I'm not really scared. We saw him. Yeah, and he looked okay out there. Okay, he looked handsome, didn't he, Foxy? He did. He looked incredible. He was glowing. But you mentioned it. There is a chance that sitting in those seats at the ESPYs, that may have messed up his back because those seats are very uncomfortable. You left early. You don't even know what it would be like. That's exactly right. He probably stayed for the whole show. Had we gotten out of there, I don't know. I might have been looking for that thing the next day. Listen, they're obviously not going to come out and say that something is wrong with him, and he might be fine, but just like the going to no matter what end of like the earth they can to emphasize and let everyone know, hey, if there was a game tomorrow, he'd play.
50:48He'd play. He's fine. He's fine. Everything's going to be fine. It's like when you get that hammered over your head enough, it's like, well, now I'm starting to think that he might not be fine. Not what we asked though.
50:58Darius Butler:There's red flag. Epidural. You're not getting an epidural if it's not. You're giving birth to playing football. Yeah. Bingo, yeah, if it's not a birth type of event or pain. That's the thing for me. It's like there's no way this guy is healthy. And what really sucks is they were so good last year, and they were so close, and now they have Devontae Adams. And Matt Stafford can't even throw Devontae Adams in football. Devontae Adams, he probably wants to go back to Las Vegas at this point. It's sad.
51:26Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, Las Vegas vibes are awesome. I love that Geno Smith's flipping people off. I love that Pete Carroll's got his back. I like that Max Crosby's in there. and Pete Carroll saying, yeah, we win, man. That's just what I do. Do you know who else does? McVay? Doesn't he? Oh, yeah. McVay wins. I think it's about, you know, because he's such a baby face. We all just, yeah, he's the whiz kid, whiz kid, whiz kid. It's like he wins, though, too. He lost Aaron Donald last year. He lost Aaron Donald last year. We thought it was over. Remember? Oh, yeah. We thought it was over for this entire team.
51:56Pat McAfee:It's going to take a couple years to build this back up. We were actually given victory. Congratulations. is Sean McVay turning down like$25 million a year to call games and rebuild the Los Angeles Rams. Matthew Stafford, he's sticking around for a rebuild. Good for that. That's what we're saying last year. We're like, Stafford needs to retire. Aaron Donald just retired. You won a Super Bowl, you're rich, go live. Trey Cooper Cup, week seven. Yeah, exactly. Sean McVay, see ya. Sean McVay, you need to retire. Go do TV. You did it. Yeah. You did it. Put Stafford on the other teams going on last year.
52:26We had him, what, giant? Yeah, giant. Yep. A couple other teams. Could this be McVay's fault?
52:31Darius Butler:he's under that bar all the time and he's looking jacked and staffer's like oh i need to come in here and i need to put mcfay in his place and he put he put 525 on on his back and maybe that's
52:40Pat McAfee:that's what happened i'm telling you matt staffer's not putting 525 on his back plus they were working
52:45Darius Butler:with the safety bar anyways that that soft bar the squat bar that people don't respect if you're a
52:50Pat McAfee:big squatter no if you're a retired athlete which leads to he got drafted same class we did think Think about how long I have been. They retired for like eight years. How long? He is still doing it. And he got slaughtered in Detroit. I mean, had no O-line the entire time.
53:08Darius Butler:Old hitting rules.
53:08Pat McAfee:And this is what I was doing. I was going, whoa, man. That's what I was doing. That was my career. Think about that. Eight years later, his career. Yeah.
53:21Darius Butler:Boom. You can land on quarterbacks, too. The first half of his career, you can tackle him and actually plant him into the ground. You know what?
53:28Pat McAfee:I'm thinking he's okay to take off a couple training camp weeks. This guy's got enough football. Everybody's talking about Aaron old, Aaron old, Aaron is old, which we can't even talk about that. Aaron got drafted before him.
53:39Darius Butler:Speaking of, if Aaron would have went into that tube, okay, this bio tube of health. You guys all saw the tweet. Axe would have exploded. Well, if Aaron went into that tube, he would have gone back in time and prevented COVID like he could have. That's what you're not thinking about.
53:55Pat McAfee:But how far back do you got? I'm not. Do we have? I'm not. We don't need any. That's true.
54:02Darius Butler:He may have gone all the way back and met the original Mother Aya.
54:07Pat McAfee:Yeah. Well, maybe. Maybe. For a shoot. Excuse me. You got a... We're looking for the eighth one dimension, I believe, is where I'm trying to get to. What part of the airstream is this in?
54:19Darius Butler:Combine these two routes right here. Why don't you do that? Let me show you what's about to happen.
54:23Pat McAfee:You need to get to the old. How many are there? Nine?
54:29Darius Butler:Nine dimensions, I believe.
54:30Pat McAfee:I'm trying to remember. I'm trying to remember. But one of them shoots you right. You get a fast pass.
54:37Darius Butler:That's the frog. That's the venom on the back of the frog. I'm pretty sure that sends you right to. I thought it was one that was over. Don't go licking frogs if you're listening. Disclaimer.
54:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, we are not promoting it. But I think there's one that's over yonder that takes you right like a fast pass. but i think it's hard to get to yeah from what i might understand i'm not looking to change any dimensions i'm happy right the here which i think is three i think we're in the correct third dimension i do believe i believe fourth one i heard it's tough to get through i heard it's a little bit of a spiritual ride it's gonna be the worst one yeah i heard it's a tough one fourth one's got pretty you're staying in three i guess is what the fourth dimension does as you're trying to get out of there that's when you're pooping and puking and battle of the bolts but that i I heard once you get through five, six, kind of soft, and then you get.
55:22Pat McAfee:Right. Seven, eight, nine are your meat and potatoes. That's where you're. Yeah, I got bad sense of direction. So getting back is what I'm worried about. Well, some people never, never do. Yeah, they never come back. And I think that is the thing. That's the word. But for some people, and I don't want to take this in an incredibly serious manner, but ayahuasca and coming back ties together to Bob Parsons' story. Bob Parsons is in Vietnam, I believe. and then he tried ayahuasca 20 some years later and it wasn't until after that a lot of ptsd i think a lot of people in the military uh have been trying ayahuasca and these different things to like kind of because i think it's kind of like a reset on your brain a little bit you got to go through it all he said that was first time he felt like he came home from vietnam was like 20 some years later after he did ayahuasca so what i'm saying is i am not an ayahuasca guy i don't think everybody should be ayahuasca people.
56:12Pat McAfee:But I think if you're looking for something, I think that is something that they say calls you. Oh, yeah. And it does that whole thing. But I know the good thing, I'm never going to be in that rainforest, AJ. And I don't know if it's in that immortal Patella portal thing. I don't know if it's in there.
56:25Darius Butler:Could be. I'm good right here in the third dimension, I think, for now.
56:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're right. Don't say never. Don't say never down the road. Maybe somebody will really have a good sales pitch for that eighth dimension. I'm like, oh, fuck, I need to get there. Bob Parsons said he was reading greens. Yeah, he did. He made every putt. Now you're selling me. Tell me more. It felt as if the greens were telling me where to put it. That's why I made the green. Yeah. That's BXG, buddy. Exactly. This show goes on. And on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
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58:09Pat McAfee:Football. It's normally what we talk about in great work by A.J. Hawk right there, nailing that. I really do appreciate the hell out of you, A.J., for the timing in which you delivered that football. It was as if you were in unison with us. And although football is normally the topic of conversation all the time, there are certain days where it's a little bit different. You know, when there's a little special aura in the air. Now, obviously, it's always special. On the toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt, sweet lion shirt.
58:38Darius Butler:Thank you. Great shirt on you as well. It's a nice little, what, two buttons, three buttons there?
58:43Pat McAfee:Yeah. I own 40 of these. I've been wearing this for the last six months, basically every single day. I appreciate you. It's so nice shirt. Thank you. Amazon. Hey, guess what? It'll be a nice shirt tomorrow. And? The next day. And? The next day. That's really how I've been doing it. I went from black tank top to this shirt. Yeah. And it's just one for the other. When they're all gone, you're in a bad spot. If I ever had a lion shirt like that, though, I would certainly look at it. They're at Ty Schmidt. Iowa is obviously going to be fantastic this year. That's Grinowski. Yeah, for Grinowski. The Packers have a quarterback who has a hand surgery happening.
59:20Pat McAfee:And vibes are high for you, I'd say. Yeah, sure. I mean, why not? You know, weather's nice outside. But, you know, listen, I hate to do this right now, but I'd be remiss if I didn't. I know we got, you know, Bryson's here, and he's going to be coming out very soon. I'm a Range Goat guy. Everyone knows it, and Bubba and the Range Goats actually were kind enough to send me an E-Fishle Range Goats golf bag. What? Wow. So, I don't know, you know, am I not— Did you say E-Fishle? Yeah, it's from an old and one mixtape video, circa like 2006. six. I didn't know if that was some I honestly didn't know if that was some Bubba range goat thing.
1:00:00That's a deep cut. I don't know. You could almost say that I'm an honorary range goat on the team. It's going to be kind of weird staring down my competition when he comes out here. I'm excited to see what he's got.
1:00:12Pat McAfee:He's got a nine-year NFL vet. Big time live golf super. Darius J. Butler is here. Dibuch, how excited are you that lives in the town of Indianapolis this weekend? this weekend. I'm stoked. I'm stoked. What's the quarterback you got right now? Granaski. Mark Granaski. Remember the name. They're staying based because he threw a five-yard pass and I mean, it had the timeline. It was like a 45-yard post, but get it right or pay the price. Sprint out right. Sideline, six yards. They just went crazy. So I am excited about them, but definitely excited about Liv coming to India. It'd be good to see you and talk to Bryson again.
1:00:47I was with him last time I was with him was right before he won the U.S. Open down in Houston, I believe. So excited. to Chop It Up with DeChambro.
1:00:53Pat McAfee:Have you ever, do you know what Camp Ana Juan is? Sounds kind of familiar. Well, we hold you in our hearts. And when we think about you, it makes me want to fart. This thing fell apart. Get a writer, pay the price. That's what he said. There's a couple deep cuts. It's a show.
1:01:16Darius Butler:Dude, salute your shorts.
1:01:17Pat McAfee:It was a show. Bobby Budnick. Great show. Listen, you should have seen it. I'm going to say it probably holds up. It definitely holds up. Joining us now is a man who will hold up forever because he's jacked. This guy's the strongest golfer in the history of golf. This guy hit a ball 420 yards with a regular driver. You see the long drive, folks. They're taking out telephone poles out there. They got super shafts, which Dan Orlovsky and D-Butt chit-chat about seemingly on a regular basis. And it's not regulation. This dude's taking regulation clubs and hitting 400 yards in competition, changing the game completely.
1:01:53Pat McAfee:And he's also a member of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition. Ladies and gentlemen, multiple-time U.S. Open winner, three-time Live winner, Bryson DeChambeau.
1:02:03Darius Butler:Yeah!
1:02:15Pat McAfee:Feeling spry, feeling spry.
1:02:17Darius Butler:That was good. That was a good dance move. Well first off I can't believe your rage goes fan so I got you a bag right here. Oh That's your bag.
1:02:26Pat McAfee:I can't swing those clubs. We know he can't swing those
1:02:34Pat McAfee:Did you just Get your hug if you want
1:02:43Pat McAfee:Should take it Will you teach me putt? That is a nice bag. Better than the goats. Do you go anywhere without that thing? I don't know if I'll go after that. Do you go anywhere without it? No. Yeah. That makes sense, I think. I think that's what we're looking for. Obviously, you're in town for the Liv Singles Championship. Yeah, you can say that. Let me turn this down for you. There's still like a... You just tilt it down. You'll be good. Is it good right there? Yep, perfect. Look, it's still a team championship. We still have team competition in there, so we've got all of the best, some of the best players in the world on the single side, and then we've got our team side as well.
1:03:28Pat McAfee:How do you feel about how your team's doing? We're the second team right now, right? Crushers are currently second in the entire thing. Is that accurate? No, we're second. It's kind of frustrating. Oh, really? We want to be first. Is that what it is? So I've got Paul Casey, Charles Howell, and Anurban Lahiri. And we're really good. We won 2023 team championship. Oh. Yeah. So we want to win again. We got beat by the Ironheads last year, which is not great. Oh, the Ironheads are a big problem. They need to pay Ironhead, actually. Ironheads boy over there in Pittsburgh. It was not good. It's currently on a hold-in.
1:04:03Pat McAfee:It is what it is. Okay, so team golf. Are you worried about team while you're playing each individual weekend? Yeah, that's the cool part about it. People don't realize, like, when I'm playing the singles side of the coin, when I'm playing individually, even if I'm not playing well. and let's say I'm 5 '6 over par and I'm in 40th place, I still want to play well on the team side. So, like, every single score counts. All four scores count. That's the best part about it. So no matter what position you're in, I'm still, like, going after it, trying to do the best I can for my team. Yeah, because every stroke actually counts.
1:04:32Literally every single one.
1:04:33Pat McAfee:And you own the team, so you can't be letting the boys die. No. Although I did last week, so sick. We're in Chicago? Yeah. What happened? I heard there was a lot of people. I heard Chicago was, like, best American. Is that the best American? It was one of the best, yeah, for sure. No, I mean, I shot four over. I just didn't play my best. That's despicable. It was frustrating. Yeah, it was. Too many people? I was playing with Paul Casey, and he played great. And I just didn't play well. I didn't have my wedges dialed in. So that's one of the things that I struggle with a lot. I don't know why, but something I've got to figure out in order to be up to Scotty Scheffler's level.
1:05:08Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's talk about that. Do you watch, obviously, at the PGA with what's going on? Now, obviously, this past weekend you were playing. They went to a playoff. Spawn and Rose both made birdie on the second playoff hole. They lipped out on the first one. I mean, it was cinema. It was great golf. And I'm not saying that that isn't happening every weekend, but there are some tournaments where there's great golf happening. At Live, you guys watch and wish you were in that? Or is there some weekends where you guys are doing some shit where you assume, like, hey, I assume there's some guys at PGA that wouldn't mind to be a part of what we're doing as well?
1:05:41Pat McAfee:Is that a thought, you think? I'd say it's a very fair statement on both sides of the coin. Like, you're going to want sometimes, like, I'd love to be playing against Scotty Scheffler as well as I think he'd love to be playing against some of us over here at certain points in time, depending on how things kind of shake out at the end. So do we need to play more? 100%. But at the end of the day, it is what it is. It'll get figured out, guys. It's not there yet. I mean, you were at the Pro-Am in Houston, right? We played together. He's a big live super fan. I know. And that's the thing. Like, I wish people would just see it.
1:06:10You know, not judge it just based on face value of what people have said, but like when they come out there and see it and experience it, see what it's about, you know. The team stuff is really cool. We have an opportunity to grow the franchise value just like any other sports team, NFL, NBA, you name it. We have the ability to grow the game of golf, the GDP of golf. It's very technical. Sorry. I don't know if that's.
1:06:31Pat McAfee:GDP? Yeah. Is that the gross domestic product? Boom. This guy knows his stuff, man. I didn't know we could drop that on golf, but I do appreciate that we can get the GDP of golf. I can go deep down the rabbit hole, but ultimately just trying to grow the game of golf, inspire a bunch of young fans. I think that's also partly why I became a part of the President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition. I genuinely care about the future of America and what our kids are doing right now. We have an obesity crisis, man. It's tough to see. And so not only just playing live golf and playing globally and inspiring a bunch of people around the world to play golf, but also helping out our kids in america is a tough one i grew up in the public education system went through pe the physical fitness test we had all that stuff and to be a part of it now and having the president come up and ask me to be a part of it is just crazy in my opinion i can't even believe i'm here yeah congratulations and also you're talking about giving back and i know um that it's also good business for you i would assume because we're also in the business a little bit but you becoming a golf youtuber i think is great for the sport great for the game the gdp of golf i think it is very good with what you have been doing i have a hypothesis that the entertainment side of golf probably is already bigger than the professional game of golf i genuinely think that there's a possibility in that i i assume that there's going to be people from the game of golf that are very pissed at what you just said right no no i assume just because the masters and No, no, no.
1:07:57I get that. But just for a second, if you think about the amount of viewership on the Masters compared to... Clips. Not only clips, but just YouTube videos all tied in together. Those amount of views on YouTube are more than what normal broadcast gets.
1:08:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, you also got to seek those out too. You don't just get them on a TV. I mean, there's a lot of... It's unique viewership as well, which is super difficult. You don't have them on at every bar across America, right? Yeah, you got to go get it. It's an active audience. Yeah, we've been battling the same thing for a long time. I just want to let you know, the people you're trying to talk to are never going to listen. Great. Sick. Yeah, yeah. I agree with what you're saying. I just want to let you know I agree with what you're saying. And I think everybody from, who is it, Bob? Yeah, Bob Sports.
1:08:41Pat McAfee:Fat and Foreplay. Kawa Shallow. You and Kawa Shallow's technique over there. Good, good. Driving range, the good, good boys. Like there is so many great internet golfers that we are all watching. So I think it's good for the game of golf. But I would say if you were attempting to sell that to some old dinosaur, that, hey, what we're doing on the urinary is actually better for golf, they would not listen. But I think you have a good argument. You'd be surprised. There's a lot of people that older generation people that come watch my YouTube videos and they're out there on the golf course. They're like, I love the break 50.
1:09:12I love the course record series. Great concepts, by the way. Thank you. You know how I came up with that? Shot 58 at Greenbrier. Unbelievable. It was awesome. Played the best round of my entire life. And then I was playing with Garrett Clark. and I'm like, how low could we go from, you know, could we scramble together and shoot 58? Could we break 58 together? Obviously, we do that the first time when we go out and film. Then, I'm like, well, okay, if we can do that, like, how low could I go from the front tees? That's kind of how it started. And I said, well, I think I could break 50. And that's kind of how it came about.
1:09:45So we started playing.
1:09:46Pat McAfee:How many times have you done it now? Oh, my gosh, how many times? This is season two. I think it was, it's around like 16, 15, 16, something like that, but I've only broken 50 once, and that was with a threesome with Garrett and Grant Horvat. And we shot 48 at PGA Frisco, and then I've shot 50 numerous times. One with Tony Romo, that was actually a lot of fun. He's unbelievable at golf, by the way. Okay, so do you have respect for the other athletes that come out and play golf? 100%. What's the difference between you and them? You said you don't have your wedges dialed. Your wedge is obviously much more dialed than any of the others.
1:10:21Pat McAfee:Is that the game? You hit it 420 yards. What is the difference, you think, between pro golfers and guys that are good at golf? I mean, honestly, it's just repeatability. They can hit some of the best shots, just like we can, but they can't do it as consistent as we can. It's like, you know, I'm an athlete. I can go throw a football. I can go shoot. That's abnormal for golfers, right? I guess so. I'm not joking. I don't know about that. But I can shoot a three and potentially make it a couple times, but it's the consistency. I mean, just doing it again and again and again. That's what makes us the best.
1:10:52I mean, you know all about it, right?
1:10:54Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Short career, short career. The President's Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition mission. To engage, educate, and empower all Americans to lead healthier, more fulfilling lives through regular physical activity, good nutrition, and mental well-being. Love everything about that mission. Love that we're trying to make the future of America better. Let's go over to Hammer. Don, Todd. Hey, Tone over there in Hammer. Don, Todd. What was that thing that we never got to celebrate because we couldn't touch our toes because of this stupid presidential fitness council thing. What was it?
1:11:25Darius Butler:Yeah, the blue box where we had to try to stretch. We could do every other thing, but we couldn't stretch to the blue box, the stupid blue box, the box of hell.
1:11:34Pat McAfee:We need that out of there.
1:11:35Darius Butler:So we were always national test winners, but we never got to presidential because our hamstrings kind of screwed us. That's right.
1:11:41Pat McAfee:I'm like a six-time national champion or whatever, but I can never get to presidential one because I can't touch my toes. And I felt like that was a genetic issue. And I, let's not get into scientists. We don't need to talk about pliability. Okay? I took all these drops. I even got a little super-duper massages. Still couldn't touch my damn toes. So do you, are you guys going to hate on people that are built with incredibly tight hamstrings? We're not hating on anybody. We are taking that out of the great ground. The sick reach? Yeah. Holy shit. I know I like this group. I know I like this group.
1:12:15Pat McAfee:That's a big deal. So let's talk about this, though. What is the mission? Is it like presidential fitness type stuff? Are we getting back into that? I mean, look, we're not going to be difficult with anybody. We want people, even if they can't do a pull-up, let's say, right? You have pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups. We're potentially putting in like a farmer's walk or thinking about different ideas and how to give people the best opportunity to lead successful and healthy lives from the start. I mean, we know from science that if you start working out later in your life, you don't have the same capacity as when you did earlier in your life.
1:12:48Like if you started when you're a teenager working out and being active, you have a longer lifespan potential. And so that's the part that we're trying to instill in kids is to empower these kids to work out every day. Well, not every day, but just be healthy. Get outside and engage them. And so when we're testing people, it's going to be more of a, hey, where's your baseline? Our phase one is like, where's our baseline? What are we at? Can you do a pull-up? I mean, can you do a pull-up?
1:13:13Pat McAfee:but yeah thank god i was thinking about that that's good all the things you said
1:13:23that's right so so once we establish a baseline then we give you recommendations on how to work out every day every other day consistently improving yourself until we do sort of a secondary baseline test in in the winter time and then once the test comes around at the end of the year it'll be the president's physical fitness test we'll we'll do a fitness test to see how successful you've been in the changes you've made over the course of time. But again, it's not necessarily you were going like, oh, here's the best athlete of every single school, because it's already kind of defined in a sense, they get scholarships and whatnot.
1:13:54But there's the potential for somebody based on a teacher's eye assessment, because there's a lot of people that can also go, oh, I'm not going to do anything the first, you know, test, and then they'll go and outperform and they're the most valuable or most improved person. We don't want that we want somebody that's actually genuinely improving. So it's going to be a lot of teacher based understanding of where that person is to how they're improving. And so we're going to work with the teachers, the school districts, states to help implement the physical fitness test, and then give some better curriculum-based initiatives for kids to get healthier.
1:14:24So that's what we're excited about. That's just a start. We've got numerous other ideas outside the physical fitness test that we're looking at. But as of right now, that's what Triple H, you know, Paul, he's great. He's my vice chair. And then it's pretty awesome. And then we just, got Matthew Kachuk to sign up to be a part of it. Two-time Stanley Cup champion. Can I rattle off the names here?
1:14:46Pat McAfee:Executive director is Catherine Granito. Yep, she's awesome. If I'm saying the name right. And then you are chair. That's right. Bryson DeChambeau. He's at the top of this. Here we go. Boom. It's Catherine Granito, Bryson DeChambeau, and a cerebral king. Oh, wow. Cerebral assassin, sorry. The king of kings. Triple H. He's amazing, by the way. Yeah, he loves fitness, too. I mean, the awards were looking at giving to these kids that are the most successful and the most improved and whatnot are out of control. It's going to be unlike anything you've seen. It's not a certificate really anymore. We don't know because we couldn't touch our toes.
1:15:23That's right. That's your fault.
1:15:26Pat McAfee:See, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it is. I think I've worked on it. I've tried my best. Gary Bettman, Commissioner of the NHL. Nick Bosa, Butker, Cody Campbell, DeChambeau, Goodell, Granito, Gretzky. Tony. Tony's wanting to help out as well. Romo. Yeah, he's down there. Gary Player. Yep. Mariano Rivera. Wow. Oh, yeah. He's on the I.L. He's going to be laid up for a little bit, unfortunately. Yeah, I saw that. Torres Kill. He's at Old Timers Day. Yeah. Not good. Kind of the state of the Yankees in general. How old is he, though? 50-something. Yeah, I mean, that's going to happen when you're up there.
1:16:00Pat McAfee:What's his baseline, though? We didn't need to, you know. I know. That's what we've got to test again. Back to his baseline there. Work out younger. Okay, let's start talking about golf. Okay. You mentioned Scotty Scheffler. I'm happy you did because I was going to bring it up regardless. I feel like, well, I was going to bring it up. I was going to hope you were going to be okay with it. Absolutely. But I was definitely going to bring it up. You can talk about anything you want. I don't care. It's all good. You and Brooks Kepler really hated each other back in the day? We did, yeah. Let's move along.
1:16:23Yeah, we did.
1:16:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, bygones be bygones. We're fine. You guys move on. Scotty Scheffler, when you're watching him, you're just as confused as everybody. What is your thoughts on watching him? He's just in a zone right now. As a high-level golfer, when you view what he's doing, do you try to compare it to when you have been in a zone like that to when you're feeling your best game? How do you judge what Scotty Scheffler's doing? He's got the best spin and distance control I've ever seen. He controls the golf ball from a spin perspective so much better than everybody else. If you're 175 yards out and it's 10 miles into the wind, he knows how to control the flight and spin to get that ball to land right next to the wall every time.
1:17:01His distance control is the best. He's always whole high. Yeah, probably since Tiger, he's the best that we've seen. And I've played with him in college a bunch, and I've said it before, but he's definitely improved since college for sure. And it's impressive to see what he's done, and we're all aspiring to do that. And that's something that I've got to get better at. I can hit it farther than him. I can hit it probably straighter than him. I can make just as many putts as him, but really it's about my iron play right now and wedges to get a little more consistent.
1:17:28Pat McAfee:He's always whole high. like it is never like they'll do the zoom out thing and it's like oh yep he hit it the right in line and then i think there was uh speaking of clips and shit he he was trying out a brand new set of clubs and they had a track man on it they're like he would hit it how far is that ah 221 or something like that it was like 221.4 yeah he's like ah okay and then he was off by like 0.1 it's like you all know that it's just yeah it's just he has the ability to be able to place it right now at this point better than everybody yeah he does and i think he works really hard on his landing distances, how far they go, and different wind conditions and whatnot.
1:18:00Because we're changing every single week. I mean, think about it.
1:18:02Pat McAfee:Indy's real windy here. Not that Chicago isn't, but Indy are pretty breezy. Yeah, Chicago was really windy last week, and I struggled on that, and that's what I've always struggled. That's why I don't play as good in the Open Championship, the British Open, and that's something I'm working on. I mean, I played well on the back end of it, but man, if I just would have played better the first day, I would have had a chance to be up there with Scottie. It's impressive to see how he can every single week, no matter the conditions, no matter where he's at, just control his distance so well. Okay, so I'm happy you guys are watching along with the rest of us.
1:18:29Pat McAfee:Ty, I have a question for you. So when it comes to, like, you've won majors, you've won on live, but we've got the Ryder Cup coming up here soon. And for fans of golf, like, when we look at everything, I mean, we've had a hell of a go in the Ryder Cup the last couple years. Where would that rank in the Pantheon? Because you are the perfect guy for the Ryder Cup. I think a lot of people who watch golf and who are fans of you think about that. Where would that rank winning the Ryder Cup? Well, we did it in 2021, Whistling Straits, and that was one of the highlights of my career. But coming off of not making the team last time around and then losing and just getting our hell kicked out of us.
1:19:11For me, man, there's nothing greater than in New York, Beth Page Black, crowds going crazy and just absolutely dominating. That would be probably, if not the best moment in my career. if we could win here again after getting our asses handed to us.
1:19:31Pat McAfee:Especially because you're a part of the president's. Yeah, exactly. How crazy would it be if he walks out on the first tee with all of us? So they say he drops all balls out there. You've golfed with him, obviously. We saw him play very good golf with you. He did. In your clip with him breaking 50, he's actually used every single time people try to slam him for being a bad golfer. They're like, well, actually, did you see he actually did this? I mean, look, when you're having fun, you're having fun, and you're out there just playing golf and you just want to enjoy your time. But, you know, when we played the challenge, it was unbelievably impressive how straight he hit it off the tee and how many good second shots he had into the green.
1:20:06You know, his putting is always something to be talked about, but he still made putts, which is really impressive. What, his stance?
1:20:11Pat McAfee:Is that what you're saying? His stance is just how he strokes it and whatnot. And, you know, he's 78 years old, too. Is he 79 now or something? I don't know. Jeez. He's really – Still talking shit, by the way. Oh, yeah. And I think the most impressive piece is just literally how straight he hits it. I can't tell you, he didn't miss a fairway when I was out there and when we played for Break 50. It was by far one of the best achievements I've ever seen out of somebody at that age. He loves the game, too. Oh, my gosh. He cares so much about the game. He's hosting a PGA Tour event in Doral, and we're at one of his golf courses next year as well.
1:20:45It's really cool to see somebody stepping up and just continue to support the game of golf like he has. I think golf is such a great game for relationship development and building just good relationships I mean, I think you guys have seen it as well. And that's why I love the game so much. You know, yeah, we can talk about winning and tournaments and all the accomplishments you have, but there's so much more than just that. And I think that's also what Scotty was kind of alluding to, you know, that there's more than just winning all the time. Like, yeah, it's great to win. And it's what we aspire to do as children, as kids.
1:21:15And it's awesome to showcase that. But there's also stuff that's outside the game that's so much more important as well, like how you can influence and affect child's lives and kids' lives. That's why the President's Council is important. That's me too. That first tee is amazing. Yeah. First tee is incredible. The, um, uh, youth on course program. There's a bunch of programs out there that, uh, are helping kids get back into it. And we'll be partnering with anybody, any nonprofit that wants to be a part of it and help us out, um, uh, to, to raise money to help, help the council kind of grow and continue to, uh, support kids around our country.
1:21:44And, uh, look, we have, we have a bunch of people willing, willing and ready to do that. And we're excited to showcase what we can do. But again, And going back into the youth side, that's what this game is about. You can show how cool nature is. Everybody's on their phone all day long, right? I think that's probably why the BC crisis is so rampant, so big. And it's frustrating because growing up, I was literally one of the last generations. I'm 31. So one of the last generations where up until sixth grade, I didn't have a phone. I didn't have it. I was outside with my friends riding a bike and rollerblading and doing a bunch of fun stuff.
1:22:16and seeing that go away, albeit games are so much fun, like video games, hanging out, talking on... It's fun.
1:22:25Pat McAfee:I suck at video games. I don't have fun playing them. I like watching them. Okay, what's your favorite game? To watch? No, no, to play. Mario Kart's definitely my favorite to play. I mean, no questions asked. Yeah, and I'm not scared. If I'm in last, I will take the blue shell. Thank you. No, you have to. Yeah, and I will send that thing too immediately. I'm not scared to drop a green back too. I'm a strategizer. I mean, I'll play Mario Kart, but every other game, I stink. But what you're saying is it is a different time for these youths. It is. It is a much different time, a lot of different opportunities.
1:22:56Pat McAfee:And also COVID, I think, told everybody to stay home. Everybody got real comfortable just kind of staying home. I did. So I think, yeah, legit, you're not the only one. We went back to Pittsburgh this past weekend for a Phil Mains Golf Classic, and every place was shut down at like 10 o 'clock on a Friday night. That's the craziest part. COVID sent everybody to bed. I don't understand how everything closes around 10 p.m. at night now. If you go to a normal small city, there's nothing open after 9. A big city, okay, it's a little different. But normal – I don't know if you guys are going to be able to fix that, but I would like to try.
1:23:28Pat McAfee:I'd like to be able to go to Mohan's on a Friday night whenever I need to piss back in Pittsburgh. But no, they're closed at 10 o 'clock. That's right. It's Friday. But I think COVID locked everybody in their houses, literally. And then everybody got real comfortable. then once you know how long does it take to start a uh a habit or something like that 21 days yeah it's at least 21 days and it's got to be consistent uh every single day so i think you guys have an uphill battle of trying to get the world back or the united states back into an active one we do uh but i like that you said you'll reach out to any non-profits and everything that'll help grow the game because you have an opportunity to win a hundred thousand dollars for somebody today that's right ladies and gentlemen at about 205 maybe 210 eastern time today on our youtube on on ESPN +, on Disney +, and on TikTok Live, Bryson DeChambeau will be taking 14 hacks at our 100-yard hole here at the Thunderdome short course.
1:24:17Pat McAfee:If he's able to make one of those, he will win a$100 ,000 donation. All right. Now, the reason why it's 14 shots is because the DeChambeau hit it over his house, took over the entire internet. I followed very closely. and I even I'm not like a big commenter on people's videos I don't like doing that mostly because I'll just get in there and either get attacked or take up too much attention in the comments don't need to be doing that okay let me get out of here oh you're that guy but I hopped into yours I hopped into yours and I was like hey I just want to let you know we were all waiting for you to blade one right through that house I mean right through that window and I every single time to watch how close you got and how consistent you were it was it was a display of greatness it It was great.
1:25:02Pat McAfee:I think this was an incredible concept. And today we'll find out if our course is tougher than your house was. 14 shots, you make it in. It was electrifying. You do, hey, listen, you're a great content guy, but obviously tremendous golfer. It's outrageous how good you are. No, no. 14 times all in there. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's a great concept. Today, you think you'll be able to hit it? Yeah, I think I could. It was funny. We put up a little skit. We were going to put up a skit of me just actually breaking the glass in 3D doing it. and they were like, ah, we want to hold off on that. We didn't feel like it would be right.
1:25:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, organically smashing your own window is much better. 100%. And then we've actually got another challenge coming out here less than a month. Oh, really? You feel good about it? Yeah, I'm feeling pretty solid about it. We'll see how I do, but it's a great concept. It actually is going to be a little different than last time. It'll be around my house. I'm not going to give away the full details other than it's going to be inside. this time, and we're going to be doing something quite unique inside the house that doesn't include a golf ball, but something else.
1:26:11So it feels like a pool billiards ball, maybe? No, no, no. Ping pong ball? I'm not going to say what it is, but all I'm saying is we're going to be giving something away to someone at some point if I do make that. The house! That's awesome! Congratulations! You've been winning DeChambeau's trip!
1:26:28Pat McAfee:That's crazy. All right, so at 205 Eastern, you'll be looking to win 100 grand. We can't wait to watch you do that. Also this weekend, obviously, you're at the club at Chatham Hills. D-Butt, massive live golf super fan, has a question for you. Yeah, right. Obviously, you're a physical specimen out there on the tee box, but you're also kind of like a mad scientist. It seems like you never stopped. You talked about the new thing now, but you never stopped thinking about the game and changing it. I know a few weeks ago, I think I heard you talk about maybe building your own ball. Where are you at with that?
1:26:56And who were the influences on you as a young golfer that kind of got you where you are now? That's a great question. I'd say I'm working to improve my equipment all the time. Even when I was back in 2011, I built the one-length golf clubs for me. I still use it today. I'm personally just trying to build the equipment to the best of my ability so I can play the best I can. Hopefully that trickles down and helps everybody else. But honestly, who influenced me as a kid, as a youngster, was Ben Hogan, no doubt. Mo Norman, who was his own trailblazer in his own way. Pretty cool. I don't know if you guys know him, but he's one of the greatest ball strikers of all time.
1:27:29Pat McAfee:What's up about Mo? Mo Norman. Mo Norm? Yeah. Mo Norm. All right. All right. Perfect. Perfect. We don't know about Mo than most know about Mo. Okay. Mo, what's funny, Tiger actually said he's probably one of the best, if not the best, ball striker of all time. Now, it's funny because he didn't win a lot, but I would say Ben Hogan is probably one of the best, if not the best, of all time. And then Tiger, obviously. I mean, from his physical preparation, how he prepped on the golf course to be ready was never seen before. And that, I think, instilled a lot of passion behind being the best you possibly can for our generation to come, which is really cool to see.
1:28:07And, you know, I hope from a footprint standpoint of me, I hope to just inspire a bunch of kids to play the great game of golf. And I'll keep continuing to do my best in tournaments and improving my equipment and playing the best I can, trying to win a bunch of majors. But ultimately, if I could just get a kid to pick up a golf club or pick up some sort of racket or whatever, go outside, be outside, that's really what I'm here to do on this earth.
1:28:31Pat McAfee:I think you're doing it because it's so cool to watch you do your thing. Thanks. I just plucked your seven iron BD here. You know, BD stands for – Bryson DeChambeau. Of course. Or band D. So this thing, this is different than what everybody else's clubs are, right? Yeah, this is completely unique. Why are you the only person in the history of golf, too, that just creates your own shit? right you told us the last time that the face is curved it's curved this way actually yes because whenever i'm hitting because you're swinging so what's swing speed well it's for irons it's 105 miles an hour for driver it's like 130 131 okay so you're really bd in it yeah all right i got that so you built these things to go this way right like actually you're the first golfer that decided i'm gonna start uh kind of tinkering with well it came because of the the driver that i was I figured out there's more curvature on the face for my fast speeds.
1:29:21When a face is flat and you hit it off the toe, the ball hooks. If you hit it off the heel, it cuts. That's just normally what happens because of something called gear effect. Of course. There's the brain right there. It's a lot of terminology that you've got to think of. Gear effect.
1:29:35Pat McAfee:Oh, I got it. I'm in there. GDP, bro. I'm with it. Great, great, great. Sorry. When you hit it off the toe, it hooks. Heel cuts. What we do to counteract that is curve the face. We actually point the face more towards the right on the toe. And you're allowed to do this? Like this has always been allowed. It has always been allowed. Yeah. And you've just been the first person that said, I want to do it? Well, no. Companies have done it in the past, but for some reason, they haven't gone that extreme. And only in long drive have they done it. So when I went to the long drive community back in 2021, 2022, when I started getting really hard and competing, they had faces that were more curved.
1:30:08And I was like, all right, cool. Let me try that thing. And ultimately, it worked for me on the golf course just when I was playing normal competition. And so I've kind of implemented that. We're creating our own clubs. And we're pretty...
1:30:18Pat McAfee:Looks like the head is kind of tilted closed a little bit. Oh, that's just your eyes. You cross-eyed a bit there. Would other guys play like shit if they use your clubs? Yes. Yeah. It's because it's so personalized to me. And I think that's the point. For me in life, everything has to be pretty much personalized to you. What works for you isn't always going to work for you and vice versa. And I think that's important to realize that when you're playing at a high level, you have to have it perfectly built for you. It's just like any type of race car. They have it personally built, a custom steering wheel, everything for them, buttons, you name it.
1:30:52And so when you get to the top of your level, yeah, that's super upright.
1:30:55Darius Butler:Just swing one of those. Why don't you grab one of those balls? Come out of the pocket. Let one of those balls go. Let one of those balls. Who cares? Do you have a foam ball? Oh, no. He'll hit normal. Oh, you'll hit a real ball in here. There's real balls only. Okay. I'm like, there's a bunch of stuff up here. All right.
1:31:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, your club's got a little bit too much. I like the grip. I want to let you know. Dude, let one go. I like it's a seven-hour ad. Come on. You got to hit one. You got to hit one. He's a big group. You got to hit one. Take a wedge. Take a wedge. Take a wedge. Take a wedge and let one go. This is probably going to go left.
1:31:25Darius Butler:Let's see what this club face thing's all about. Don't do it, Ben. A wedge is flat. The face is flat on a wedge. Go on. Go on. Chip one in the net. Yeah, chip one in the net. Let's see what you got. Or blast one right at one of Bryson's guys. That's right. Smoke him. Oh, yeah. If he shanks it, I'll give you 1 ,000. Is that a B? Where are you going, Pat? I don't know. No, no, no. One of those little nets. Yeah, the middle one. Is that a BD? Middle one. BD wedge right there. Oh, I told you. All right. You get 14 tries, right? Yep. Do you want to hit a couple more?
1:32:00Pat McAfee:Is that when it really exploded off the head? They got a little of these BDs. Okay, okay. Here we go. Here we go. I'll tell you what. The hole, actually, you see the funny thing about it. It moved mid-shot there. So you've got different clubs than everybody else, but you're saying everybody else has different clubs than everybody else as well. They do. Everybody's unique to their own. You're driving the ball 420 yards. We have this clip, obviously, of you last week. Yeah, I pumped it. Yeah. I pumped that one. That's unbelievable. So is this wind at the back? There is. There's about 15, 20 miles an hour, but it was firm, and I had probably like 192 ball speed, and I just hit right on the down slope there and shot forward and rolled out 40, 50 yards, and that's sometimes how far it goes.
1:32:37And long drive, that happens a lot. they try to make the fairways a little firmer and it goes really far. It's a lot of fun. But I made par. Good par. I made par for you. So that was really nice. What do you change? What do you change to your swing though? What do you do differently? Do you want me to show you? I can show you.
1:32:57Pat McAfee:Here's your 50 degree too, by the way. I didn't know I was using this up.
1:33:01Darius Butler:Why don't you tee one up? Let one go too. I'll tee one up right here. Blot it right down. No, it looks like for me when I'm
1:33:08Pat McAfee:microphone, turn the microphone, turn the microphone. We got your microphone. You can talk. He'll just hold it. He'll just, he'll hold it. Yeah. I got it. Come on. Let's see. Like a boom mic, Todd. Like a boom mic. Boom mic. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, yeah, sounds good. Yeah, yeah, sounds good. Yeah, yeah, it's perfect. That's perfect. So when I'm hitting it normal, I don't use a lot of force in my body. I just try to swing with my arms. and then when uh when i'm going after it very simply you'll see my body go up on the backstroke i'll already start letting my body fall to the ground when i get to the top and then right when i hit the top i then turn the corner i start pushing forcing my left foot turn around the corner that throws the club down and then as that occurs right about here it's almost like a jump and that lets the club just flow through and over.
1:34:05And honestly, those three things, up, let it go down, push back and around, is what makes the club go really fast and flick. So it's a pretty technical thing to do.
1:34:15Pat McAfee:Am I going back to my right foot? I've been told I'm supposed to go to my left foot. You are. So you take it back, go to the right foot, it already is going to the left foot by the time you get to the top. So it's just an earlier sequencing thing. Do a full-speed one?
1:34:30Darius Butler:It's harder to tell when slow down
1:34:33Pat McAfee:I mean you can You can break whatever It's your world Yeah it's your world So this is normal Bone bring your head over here And up down and around And then the earpiece falls out Alright so that's what I need to do Alright we got it I'll tell you what I just figured it out We got no video then Also these eyes I just watched it all happen And you were doing it I'm boom and a bang and a bow boom and a bang and a pow and then i'm out yeah aj's in ohio he's got a question for you i think i think it's about your weight addition that you put on about halfway through yeah your career remember with the eight protein shakes aj remember when we were talking about that it's not good yeah
1:35:14Darius Butler:bryson that was a great era that you went through i really appreciate it like watching you jack wait up in your garage and drink 15 protein shakes yeah what was it like throughout that period when you started hitting the ball 5 000 yards past everybody and changing the game of golf and what made you choose to do that and then now obviously the version that you're in now? Yeah, great question. I'd say that when I first started on tour, I always knew I had distance but never knew how far I could truly hit it. I always drove it really straight in college. Always tried to hit it as straight as possible.
1:35:47Where'd you go to school?
1:35:48Pat McAfee:I watched you when you were there. SMU. Yeah, you guys were good there. Go Stanks. Go Stanks. Mustangs had a good team. We did, yeah. I remember the Oklahoma State team was pretty good at the time. Texas had a pretty good team. Bama could play. West Virginia got some guys that can really spin it. Yeah, it was a fun time. I hit it really straight. Won the NCAAs, won the U.S. Amateur. But I went on tour and I just wasn't as successful as I thought I could be. I missed 14 cuts in a row my first year on tour. Not great. A little humbling. Yeah, it was. It was because I thought I was good going out there and then all of a sudden you get kicked in the ass.
1:36:20And you're like, oh, okay, wait a second. and so from there I was like look I got to find a way to be more repeatable I worked on that in 2017 won four times in 2018 had success and then I didn't win in 2019 and I was like what is going on why can't I just consistently win every single year and I said you know what I need to give myself an even more distinct advantage let's try to hit the ball as far as I possibly can I had a little bit of data and research behind it kind of backed that I was through Sturks gain stuff and I learned that if I can hit it three more yards farther three yards farther I could be six more yards offline and still have the same strokes gained on everybody else of course we did that research as well yeah you did right yeah perfect and so from that I was like I'm just gonna get as strong as I possibly can I'm gonna learn how to hit it as hard as I possibly can and then learn how to do straight after that so I did that for like a year went and won the US Open hit it everywhere and still won got it out of the rough because because I had some strength behind it and got out of the rough and over the course of time i've learned to just hit it a little straighter and a little straighter and a little straighter and it's just gotten better and then i had some equipment that helped um expedite that process and now we come come to here that uh yeah i mean when i when i was uh drinking 15 protein shakes a day i wouldn't say that that's the healthiest thing to do and i've learned from that and that's why now i'm on the fitness so i can help uh guide kids along to a healthier and longer lifestyle so how far how many yards
1:37:43Pat McAfee:did you gain you think from like average drive over that time and how much weight did you gain as well i went from 200 and 204 or five pounds to at my peak i was 240 jeez yeah like that as we're talking about these freshman college football huge yeah gaining weight that's what you just did yep and tough to breathe tough the knees it was brutal yeah i couldn't breathe that was probably hurting a little bit the knees a little bit but it was more of like my breathing I couldn't breathe. Yeah, because fat's in there. I couldn't, like, I always felt winded. I couldn't last a long time. So that was the problem for me.
1:38:18And then I went back to 220, 225 now. And then I went from, let's see, 111 swing speed to, like, so 20 miles an hour in swing speed, which equates to 298 yards of carry to now I'm carrying at 327, 328. It's perfect. It's important. That's so much fun. We were just calling him a golf ball whacker guy.
1:38:39Pat McAfee:I mean, I was the golf ball. Happy Gilmore. Yeah, you were the guy. He inspired me, by the way. That was a part of it, too. That's amazing to hear because it does make sense if you just get rid of the irons and just go straight from tee box to green. It feels like you would eliminate some strokes. You know when Happy just knocks it in the hole and he's like, that was so much easier. I should just do that every time. That's kind of the way I felt hitting the driver out there. I'm sick of hitting these irons. Why don't I just drive the green every single time? And you started doing that. And then obviously, golf was getting, we had megastars happening.
1:39:07Pat McAfee:and then that's when the split kind of takes place. But now I feel like golf is still more popular than it's ever been. I don't know. Not ever been because I don't know what the Tiger numbers were. I think the Tiger numbers were outrageous. I think the amount of people playing the game of golf is way more. I don't know if it's necessarily as popular as it was with Tiger at his peak. To watch. To watch. You guys are tough to find. I'm sure somebody will be able to find how to watch you guys on TV this weekend. We're on Fox. We're on Fox. Okay, we'll watch live here in Indianapolis. We'll get you to have boots on the ground, eyes on the live golf experience.
1:39:40Pat McAfee:Whenever you're 100 yards out, what club is that? Are you going to make this outside for 100 ,000? Yeah, that's 55. It's a 55 degree. It's a 10 o 'clock, 55 degree. Anyway, I can hit a 60 that far. My 60 goes 105 yards, but I want a little more control, so I'll go with a 55. 10 o 'clock. Shoulder height. Oh, ear to ear. We're talking about ear to ear. Keegan Bradley. Yeah, yeah, you can do that. Exactly. So you're 10 o 'clock on a... It's right here. Right here. Right arm, right shoulder. It probably will go just a bit past Tuesday what happens. Are you trying to get to 100 yards? What's the exact distance at your best club?
1:40:10Pat McAfee:91, which is your house, I guess, is what they say. 95. So the shot over the house was 98 yards playing down two because of a little downslope. AI told us it was 91 downslope. Oh, really? It's not fully accurate yet. Very talented. By the way, how crazy is AI getting nowadays?
1:40:28Darius Butler:You have no idea. I just started crazy. You have no idea. I have no idea. No?
1:40:34Pat McAfee:fucking idea. I'm going to let you know that. We learned something literally yesterday. I was up until 3.30am with this AI. You have no idea. Which one? Don't worry about it. What? It's a secret. We'll tell you. Okay, I mean, I was just at Google Camp a little while ago. Their AI is insane. I'm using it. I'm like, what is this? Where was this all my life? I mean, if I had this in school, I'd have been A plus with every scene. Quantum physics, I'd have smashed it. Well, it's not you. That's the problem. It wouldn't be you doing it. That's true. This guy chat GPT's his entire life. I don't Google anymore.
1:41:11Pat McAfee:I just chat GPT. 5.0, the 5.01 now? Yeah, GPT 5.0.
1:41:15Darius Butler:People give it a name. Okay. It's nuts. What are you saying? People name their chat GPT app. Oh, yeah. What's up, Cha? Hey, what's up? I think there's relationship advice it gives, too, as well as therapy. There's anything.
1:41:27Pat McAfee:You golfers, I don't know what the live schedule is. we heard Dustin Johnson say I got paid more money and do less work so that's why I did it and he's kept it moving but the golfing schedule for most of your life was I mean you're here on a Tuesday the tournament's this weekend goal would be to make it through the weekend obviously and then when you were back with the PGA I don't know what the live schedule is I think you have another tournament the next week so then you guys are just back on it so we have a shorter schedule of tournaments so we go from sometimes late January, early February, all the way till now, it's just August.
1:42:04We're done after next week, which is great for us because it gives us time to live our lives and do business, get better, get healthier, come back stronger. And it also gives us... Yeah, Liv, funny. With an E, Liv. Right. Okay. We're talking about Liv. Like live.
1:42:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're talking... But not live. I would like you to live live because of what Liv has provided. Live live with Liv. Yeah. Okay. No, for us, to be honest, it's around, let's say, 10 to 12 more weeks that we have in my life every single year that I gain back, which is great. We're a show that took all of our breaks this year. You need to know who you're talking to at this point. We in the past have left a lot of off days on the table. This particular year, we utilize those off days. And I'll tell you what, it's a much different life. It was off. It is. It's very nice, especially with daughters, you know, the whole thing.
1:43:03It's a healthier lifestyle. There's a balance to it, right? And that's what we really didn't have, I would say. And so for me, like, I can get better next year because I've got that time to iterate and practice and figure things out and try different equipment and, you know, you name it. And then do business as well, which is fun, which is starting to be fun.
1:43:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're at Google camp. Okay, stop. Stop. No, it's not that Google camp. That's so cool. I got lucky. You follow all the other sports? A little bit, yeah. Did you see Matthew Stafford going to the teleportal immortal thing? That sounds like something that's right down your... I don't know enough info. I've got to look it up with AI. What exactly is it? We're assuming. We don't know either. And you can look it up yourself. Jesus. You can be a human and do it yourself. I just learned about it today. You learned about what? Google Camp? No. You're talking about the immortal? You don't have to AI.
1:43:50Pat McAfee:The way you just said, I'm going to AI it, though. We need to not just be that reliant. Now, granted, what we learned yesterday. See, here we go. You'll see later. That's conflicting. I got some bad news. I got some bad news for everybody. For some massive business. I got some bad news and some great news. We got some great news for it all, but this immortal thing. It feels like you would be a guy who would try holistic-like things to make your body better. Are you a red light therapy guy? So I have tried it. I do something called muscle activation techniques, MAT. Have you ever heard of it? Oh, yeah.
1:44:22Matt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Greg Roscoff. And I work with a guy, Ryan Overturf, in Dallas. But Greg comes, I see him. Ryan Overturf works with our team, the Crushers. And Greg, I see him probably once a month. He works with the Broncos, worked with Peyton Manning. He worked with the 49ers last year, but he's with the Broncos. And he's a game changer for me in my own personal life. I've been lucky enough to only have one surgery, which is this hand surgery, which I broke the hook of the handmate bone. It's like a baseball player injury. You did that golfing? Yeah, a long drive. Boom! I just smoked, and it was a cold day, and it popped.
1:45:00I was like, damn.
1:45:02Pat McAfee:That sounds terrible. That was in 2022. That was right before I went to live. So there's a bunch of things. Were they thinking about pulling back the... No, no. I got healthy. Yeah, of course. Of course. We passed the physical. Yeah, of course. So I have a spine that has bulging discs up the whole entire back, and I haven't had any real problems, and we treat it and train it. that's partly why I work out because there's actually a way to work out and fix a lot of the problems but you got to do it in the right way and yeah because Matt has a back issue and it's like golfer's back's a big thing right it's huge yeah it's usually from the frontal plane like your stomach and abs so as major so as minor uh trunk flexors all that um that's not functioning as well to support your back because your back overworks and gets tired and pops and does some bad stuff so you want to balance your body out especially when you're 130.
1:45:52Pat McAfee:Well, that too. Think about it. I'm one-sided all day long going right side, swinging as hard as I can. I never really go left side. And so my right oblique and the side benders and whatnot get a little agitated. Any golfers ever hit from both sides of the golf ball? Mack O 'Grady. Mack O 'Grady is a psycho. One of the goats. One of the goats, though. Seriously. He was just as good left-handed as right-handed. I'm not kidding you. You have to look at that. What's his name? Mack O 'Grady. That's a great name. Phil Maglino was his actual name. He created an alias name called Mack O 'Grady. Phil O 'Gleno?
1:46:25Phil O 'Gleno or Phil McCleno or something like that. I would say it's a McCleno there.
1:46:29Pat McAfee:If we go to Mack O 'Grady. Mack O 'Grady. I think it's Phil McCleno. He's a Mick for sure. I want to double check that last name, but I know it's Phil something. That's his actual name. Oh, we got a lot of questions on the last name. Feels like you just want to call him a Mick a little bit there. Is that what that was all about? I guess so. Oh, jeez! You don't want to say that. So he would literally have some of his irons from the left side, some of them from the right side? Yeah, so he could literally play golf left-handed and right-handed. He tried to play in one tournament. I think it was a PGA Tour event, or it might have been a Corn Fairy Tour event, but he tried to play in the morning right-handed and then in the afternoon left-handed.
1:47:03Yeah, tried to sign up as two people.
1:47:06Pat McAfee:What a great deal. With a fake name. Phil's playing in the morning. Mac's playing in the afternoon. That's what he tried to do. Literally, not kidding you. It's a great story. How old is this guy? When's this around? Man, I think he's in the 60s or 70s now. He's a lot older, but he still golfs every day and practices. So you were a golf nerd whole life? My whole life. You talked about Mo. We know Mo, obviously. And now we're talking Mac O 'Grady. Golf was whole life your thing. I was a golfing machiner growing up. Still am. Have a background in that. And what happened with all the science that you started doing, right?
1:47:35Pat McAfee:Or math? Like, hey, this is 22. I remember that kind of captivated everybody. Yeah. So, you know, I would measure out. I'd use an actual mechanical compass to measure out where the pins are based off the location of the sprinkler heads. I then started doing numbers for how much it would hurt my golf ball in the wind like 10 miles an hour into the wind, 15 miles an hour into the wind, depending on the different heights. I just did it based on experimentation. I'm never going to be good. No, no, no, no. You don't have to. That's why you have a good caddy. I don't think anyone else is doing that.
1:48:04That's why I have a great caddy. Is that your caddy? Yeah, Jibo. Yeah, he's the man. Jibo.
1:48:09Pat McAfee:Is he the one sitting down to the left? He's a tall dude that looks like a dork. Where is it? Jibo. You want to come out? Come on. Come on, come say hi. Jibo! Jibo! He's not coming out. He's too nervous. Jibo, good guy. He's a dog. Oh, there we go. See, now we're talking. Come on, my man. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. Come on, Jibo. This guy. Why don't you pick up a bag? Jibo. Jibo's a good golfer? He's a great golfer. Yeah, he has a golf club called Evergreen Golf Club. Jibo. He's unbelievable. How long has Jibo been on the back? He's been on the back since 2023. And then we started playing incredible in majors.
1:48:51He's a star.
1:48:53Pat McAfee:There it is. There we go.
1:48:55Darius Butler:He didn't bug me for the whole time.
1:48:57Pat McAfee:I had that thing. Yeah, that thing was sitting there. I tried my best.
1:49:01Darius Butler:On TV, it looked like it was resting up against the cup. Okay. Can't do that. G-Bow, I'd like you to tell a really amazing story and then a really kind of a wild story from me. Wild story? Yeah, let's do a wild story first. On course, I think, right? On course, on course. We'll just go, we'll make it quick. Last week, he signed a man's thigh. Oh, yeah. And I got a message, direct message, the night or the day after with it tattooed.
1:49:27Pat McAfee:Nice. Was that a good tat? It was solid. You felt like you had a good signature. Oh, I made sure it was good on his skin. It was a little sweaty, which is disgusting, but I signed it right. Yeah, but it's forever. Yeah, it is. You got to do it right for him. He did a forearm tat. That's right. How was that? Pretty good? Yep. I try to make it legible, like Arnold Palmer says. And Australia, was that the same place when Bert Kreischer was there at a par 3 to place one bananas? Yes. Australia, great crowd for Liv, right? Unbelievable. They love us. It's fantastic there. So far away. It is. It's a 17, 18-hour flight.
1:49:57Yeah, two days. Yeah. Two-day travel. Pretty much. Yeah. Long ways. How many trips have we made this year? Three global trips, so we go overseas for three or four days. Do you have Wi-Fi on those flights, Sometimes. Sometimes you don't. And it is horrific. We did it on like a 20-hour one. By the way, how do we not have Wi-Fi on planes in 2025? That's what I'm saying. Why is it not on every single plane? I don't know, DeChambeau.
1:50:25Pat McAfee:FaceTime from the one. I had Starlink on one of the planes I was on. Really? It was the greatest connection I've ever had. I had better connection than I do on Earth. I was FaceTiming with everybody. It was 8K, but it was an overnight flight. Nobody was awake. I was just FaceTiming everybody I knew. I was like, yo, yo, yo, yo. I got great service up here. This is amazing. It's incredible. It needs to be on every plane. And then there's always, like, the airplane mode. And you're like, what the heck? That's – I don't even know if that's a thing. Like, you have to put it on airplane mode. I don't know if it – Well, that's because of the Bermuda Triangle.
1:50:50Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah. Jibo, when you're out there, you're telling them, all right, we're 245 yards away. It's about a 7-iron for you. Like, when does that whole transition start happening? Are you watching him at the driving range? How do we get to the point where we know exactly? Are you watching him throughout the day? Like, it feels like he's a little bit more fired up today. It feels like he's hitting it further. Is that your job or how does that go?
1:51:10Darius Butler:The X's and O's of it all is definitely a big piece of it. But honestly, I think a big thing with caddying is more just being, you got to remember we're out there together for seven, eight, nine hours a day sometimes.
1:51:20Pat McAfee:You got to be DeChambrose.
1:51:21Darius Butler:Yeah, we got to be, we got to have fun. And it's, yeah, it's obviously the X's and O's, all the decisions that go into it are big. But at the same time, I just try to be a really good company. Try to keep them positive.
1:51:35Pat McAfee:You got smoking weed out there or no?
1:51:37Darius Butler:Not to my knowledge.
1:51:39Pat McAfee:I didn't know Liv. There's drug testing on Liv too. Is there really? It's actually a lot more rigorous than the other side. The other side. The team up north. The other side. D-Bot, you got a question for Jibo here? Yeah, so I've seen a lot of guys now, maybe just more public, but changing caddies a lot. It's been crazy. This year has been nuts. You spoke about being good company, and obviously you have the other side of it, which is the more precise job. But what do you think guys are looking for when they have that rotating caddy in the back? What's usually the one or two or three things that it is?
1:52:21Darius Butler:It's just I feel like change stimulates those guys to an extent to where it's like we've all been to where you get a new phone case or whatever like that, and you feel like you get a new phone. It kind of sparks something different in you. I don't know. So it's like I said, there's a lot. Bryson and I, we've been, I don't know, partners, bros. That's a weird way to put it. We're married. I've been working for Bryson for just over two years now, but we've gone through a lot on the golf course, off the golf course as well. To where, I mean, it's just like any other relationship. If you don't put the time into communicating and just trying to be on the same page, it's going to wear and tear on the relationship.
1:53:02Darius Butler:It does. And so that's why we try to be really open and honest and communicate well. There are times where he'll be really hard on me and be like, dude, like, no. Like, this is, I don't know what you're doing right now. You got to stop this. So I was a holder.
1:53:15Pat McAfee:So I was a holder for Vinatieri. I viewed myself as a caddy. Now, granted, it's Adam Vinatieri, so I need to stay the hell out of the way. But the conversation's going on to the field. Let's keep this thing light here. Let's go ahead and let this, oh, we're aiming at a fat guy here. Let's go ahead and have a good time. Let's have a good time. And let's also not mess this up. You know, 8-iron, huh? Well, okay. You're fired. Now, 18 seconds from now, we'll continue this show digitally as we exit ESPN. That's Bryson DeChambeau. He'll be golfing in the Live Tournament this weekend in Indianapolis.
1:53:45Pat McAfee:That's Jibo. That's his caddy. The boys are all here. We'll continue. He'll be trying to win$100 ,000 for a charity in a matter of moments. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Okay, nailed it there. Now we're still alive. Still alive. I need to tell you that. I don't know if you want to say like, yeah, we do smoke weed. Yeah, you don't need to say anything. But that$100 ,000 is going to be for the PCSFN for sure. If I make it, it's going to the Fitness Foundation. Okay, so that has its own foundation. We do have our own foundation. That's what I'm saying. Man, nobody's going to want to donate to that.
1:54:14Pat McAfee:You know that? Like, I will donate to it, but I'm just telling you. We're trying to help make kids help for your game. Yeah, but I just want to let you know. We get it. We get it.
1:54:22Darius Butler:Tough sell for about half the country. Yeah, all the time for the rest of the time. forever. We have great resources. We're going to be fine. They're about to get$100 ,000 from me. That's what I'm saying. Come on. Let's go.
1:54:36Pat McAfee:I don't know. I use your clubs. It feels like they're pulling left. It's because it's super upright. It's because it's super upright. You just aren't upright enough, I guess. Well, you could have said something before I shut. I heard you say that's upright, but I didn't hear a follow-up. GDP. No follow-up. You PCFN, no follow-up. Matt has no MAT, no follow-up. The upright thing, no follow-up. You just said, yeah, you're upright. It's like, okay, how about a little fuck? I need a Jibo.
1:55:06Darius Butler:That's right. You need a caddy. You let me know. Jibo, what did I do wrong? Jibo, where the hell were you? I was waiting for Shane. You might as well just try it again with Jibo's advice. No, no, no. Put it. Okay. Oh, there we go. I need you. Oh, he's got a putter. You got to get it upright, Jibo. Can I use your putter? Yeah, it's a great sense. The tall one, Pat. I wouldn't use it. The tall one. I'd use this.
1:55:27Pat McAfee:You would, yes. Can I see your putter? What is your putter? It's a ridiculous one, right? The lab putter is still your design. How do you feel about LAB? Oh, it's good. It's great. All right, so what am I doing? I'm doing this? That's great. Arm lock? It's a torque. Yep. This? Yep. That's perfect. And then what? Put the hand on. You go a little down. A little lower on the shaft. Gosh, man. And then what?
1:55:59Darius Butler:I mean, get your read from Jibo before, too. I don't know if we're going to feel much slope in this game. No, it's like a 10 on the stint meter. Yeah, you'll see. You can see the ondulation if you get lower. To Bryson's credit, he doesn't. I sneak in there every once in a while. Do you feel anything in your feet? So Stan is facing the hole. Ancient formula. Can you stand facing the hole kind of straddling? Do you feel one foot's lower or anything or pretty flat? Yeah, close your eyes. I mean, why don't you get down a little bit so you can see the hole, you know? I've got hip issues. My right's a little bit lower than my left.
1:56:34Darius Butler:Okay, so if you feel like your right's a little bit lower than your left, then it could break a little right. I don't think that's going to happen. So I'd say just right. Oh, a little firm. Good try, though. Fire him. Fire him. Fire him, Pat. That's not your caddy. Little softer. Little softer, a little more right, and it's money. That has a chance. That has a great chance. Yes. Oh, my. No good. That would have gone in. Shit. I might have gone in. Oh, for two? I think I broke it. That might have gone in. What the fuck's this guy doing?
1:57:10Darius Butler:That's why he tried to tend the flag for you. Obviously, it didn't go well. Let him stick to playing. I'm playing out, Cady.
1:57:22Darius Butler:Oh, see, it broke. G-move. Bryce, this is your guy? See his face go red. Okay. Putter's broke. Let's see it.
1:57:34Oh. Uh-oh.
1:57:37Darius Butler:Not as easy as it looks, huh? Oh, it goes right.
1:57:42Pat McAfee:Uh-oh. Whoa. Stop.
1:57:47Darius Butler:Stop.
1:57:47Pat McAfee:Uh-oh. I don't know how I feel about this weekend. Oh, no. Oh, shit. There you go. One for three. It was the putter's fault. All right, why don't you go ahead? Saw us putting a fake one. Yeah, that's right. Hey, G-Bo, thanks for grabbing it. That's awesome. Oh, thank you. There it is. I usually don't pick up throwing clubs, but I'll do that.
1:58:11Darius Butler:Yeah, I like that. Let's not reward bad behavior. If I do something, I'm a little pissed or whatnot, and throw a club or something like that, he won't pick it up. Yeah, I like that. Which is great because it gives me clarity of thought. Okay, you can't do that. Come on.
1:58:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're not a two-year-old. Yeah, you're a 31-year-old adult. Bro, man. Yeah, I understand. I understand. Okay, why don't you guys go get ready for this 100-year-old shot? All right. We will see you back there. Good luck. Jibo. Thank you. He's going to need it. Nobody's ever made this. Nobody's ever made it. Nobody. We've had multiple people here that are golfers. Only one pro, though, right? Yeah, Bubba's the only pro. it's been here. He has not made it. Very close. But he was
1:58:50Darius Butler:75. Yeah, he was going at the 75, not the 100.
1:58:53Pat McAfee:Nobody's made it in that 100 hole. Use the
1:58:56Darius Butler:range finder.
1:58:58Pat McAfee:It might not be 100, too. That might be a game. Allegedly, it's longer. That might be a part of the game. It hasn't been treated in quite some time, either. Yeah, the club, the 50 left. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Bryson DeChampton.
1:59:15Darius Butler:Hey, Bryson!
1:59:17Pat McAfee:We appreciate you, bro. So they're the DeChambros. Yeah. Jibo. The super DeCham. DeChambo. Okay, well, before we go out and do that, he's taking 14 hacks at this thing. Yep, popped. 100 yards. We have no idea if it's actually 100 yards.
1:59:36Darius Butler:I thought Bubba said it was like 105 when they looked at it. Yeah, I thought, but it might have been the opposite way, too. It might have been 95.
1:59:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, but he also might have had it a little different because Bubba hits it a little bit. you know, he would have been talking to Bubba. Hey, yeah, it's 105. Actually, 106. Whenever they gave Rose his caddy this weekend, green light, green light on this, just full green light, and then puts it to six feet or whatever. That feels so good. I wonder, because he said it's right here. Yep. 10 o 'clock. They said they shot it this morning. It's 100 yards. I was going to say, Russ Green, it's 100 yards. He ain't fucking around with that.
2:00:10Darius Butler:Oh, is that right? Yeah. And if it would have been 102, guess what? We would have paid for a 102-yard hole. not a 100-yard hole. There would have been a little bit of an upcharge on that.
2:00:19Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, Russ Green really is something special. He is. What's the name of the company? Oh, shit. I couldn't tell you. Russ Greens. No, it's not that. Russ Greens, Russ Greens. It's not his name. It's like Hollywood Greens or some shit like that. I don't know. Russ Green. I apologize, Russ. I can't remember the fucking name of the company. He does great work, though. Sitting right there. Yes, he does. We'll see if DeCham broke the game. Celebrity Green. There it is. Celebrity Green. Hollywood. Celebrity Green. Yeah, right there. It's not Russ Green's greens. It should be Russ's. Yeah, not a good idea.
2:00:50Pat McAfee:Solo, which he could. We watched him work. Yeah. Well, and the boys. Mostly the boys. Russ got it done, though. We've been in like two days. Yeah. We got two holes out here. All right, that's what we're going to go do. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys over in hammer. Done. Done. AP Tone's not in there. I am in here. No, we don't have the shot. No camera. Yeah, we have a camera. We took a camera. Oh, that's okay. Sound like Mitt there. A little bit. That's okay. All right, Tony.
2:01:20Darius Butler:Do you want to give an audio read for what's coming out tomorrow at noon? I was looking at Mitt while I was saying it, so it just happened. That's okay. Jeez, they got no camera. Tomorrow at noon, we have the second annual version of the Need to Know Gambler's Guide for College Ball. It is 85 total pages. It has a preview of every single Power 14. That's 68 teams in total. You know, talking about their returning players, their key players, who their coach is, do they have new coordinators, their schedule breakdown, such and such, such and such with those teams. And then I give out my best bets, who I think the playoff bracket's going to be, stuff like that, tomorrow at noon for$9.99.
2:02:04Pat McAfee:Congratulations. Proud of you, buddy. Thank you. A lot of work in that. He also got quotes from basically every single coach. He looked them all up. He was either there in attendance with the recorder or looked them up. Got great quotes from every single coach that helped tell the tale on what he thinks the team's going to be like and what you need to look at. Honestly, Tone, this is one of the best things you've done. Obviously, family and everything. We're talking about professionally.
2:02:27Darius Butler:No, even that includes.
2:02:29Pat McAfee:Okay. Well, I would like them to say on the record that I don't agree with that. Aside from that, This is one of the greatest things that you have started to do, and I'm happy we're going to continue to do this. A lot of things that are great that we run, we get sick of it quickly and don't do it again. That's kind of a part of our problem. Some people find success in things, and then they hammer it home forever. We're the complete opposite. If it does too good, we go, whoop, whoop, all right, it was good. We need to move on. This was awesome last year, and reading through what this year's is going to be, I can't thank you enough for all the fucking research that you did for all of us college football fans, legitimately.
2:03:04Darius Butler:No, thank you. I appreciate it. I love doing it. I feel like I fall in love with college football more and more every year now. And this also selfishly helps me get prepared for the season. So, yeah, I mean, I love doing it. I'm going to do it as long as I can.
2:03:17Pat McAfee:We have a shot outside currently. We can't wait for that tomorrow. Congrats. Thank you, brother. Bryson walking to the hole. Now he's walking it off. He's pacing it off, I guess. That's him with, obviously, you see the little khakis on. Oh, yeah. We're going to have to get maybe a little white bounce out here. He's wearing Reebok. You see that? Yeah. He's a Reebok athlete, right? Yep. I didn't know they had. That took me back to rookie year NFL. They're coming back.
2:03:39Darius Butler:They're coming back.
2:03:39Pat McAfee:Do you remember, AJ? Reebok was in the NFL. Remember Peyton? Yeah, Peyton.
2:03:44Darius Butler:Reebok went up to his knees. They were so tall. He had those giants.
2:03:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, but nobody thinks about it. Remember the, I'm not going to say it, terrible-ass shorts that they had? Oh, yeah. The worst. The shirts, the shit, the sleeve. I mean, they had some terrible shit at the time when they were with the NFL. And then when Nike comes in, it was an immediate. And I thought Reebok was going to be dead from it. Reebok said, uh-uh, we're coming back. Reebok seemingly did like a full rebrand. AI's. AI's been a Reebok. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The answers, yeah. Those were. Hell of a run. Yes. Yeah, Reebok had a hell of a run. Then I thought they were dead. Just once you lose the NFL and everything kind of happened, I thought they were kind of done.
2:04:22Pat McAfee:And it feels like they have tried to kind of reinvigorate what they are, rebrand themselves. And I think DeChambeau's a good guy to get on board with. Yep. He talked about that Google camp. golf is where they talk about just business happening like business, business, business imagine him going out on a golf course with some CEO of some company, I'm going to hit this thing 420 yards hey Bryce, hit the hit the green and he will think about how many, I couldn't even imagine the amount of, and he's 31
2:04:49Darius Butler:young kids love him my kids, they might be the only golfer my kids know who are aware of, I mean they know Scotty Sheffler they know some of them, but Bryson, they are juiced for Bryson, they watch a lot of his stuff
2:04:59Pat McAfee:He's doing something in the house, not with a golf ball.
2:05:03Darius Butler:What could that be?
2:05:04Pat McAfee:He's giving away something pretty important. So we gave away his house for him, right, today? Yes. Will we give away$100 ,000? We shall see. We got Bailey McComas on a steadicam out there by the green. Here's his shot. Very excited to see how that ends up working out. He does not know we have cut to him right now. I was going to say, pretty steady. Full anxiety, panic attack, I assume, from Bailey once he realizes that this is currently on air right now. He's like, you told me! Fuck, fuck! I'm scratching my leg! Oh, shit, shit, shit! So those are the DeCham bros that came to the office. It was good to see.
2:05:38Pat McAfee:I'll obviously see Jibo pretty jacked. Yeah. Gotta carry that thing around, obviously. That's Bruce Brown out there. He's certainly giving advice to DeCham. So basically, all the Pro-V-1s are going to be right over there. You got some Chrome stops over here. I love those. Oops, I've got to go back inside.
2:05:57Darius Butler:Let me know if you need anything. What he might be doing inside his house is chipping like a marshmallow into somebody's mouth or something. I don't think that's going to be a series. Maybe that'll be a series. I could eat his mouth. If he gets one. In that Jibo's mouth? You get one a day. Yeah, or Jibo into his mouth. What if Jibo's shoes taped to the ground?
2:06:19Pat McAfee:Yeah. Can't move in the living room. Got a snag marshmallow. Every single day, one shot, bro. That could be a lifetime. What's the guy doing in the back? Seems like he's kind of drifting off. Okay, he's focused in there. All right, well, we're going to head out there. Let's take a break. We'll be back on the other side with Bryson DeChambeau at the Thunderdome short course. He'll be attempting to hit a 100-yard shot for a$100 ,000 donation. He'll get 14 attempts, which is the exact amount of attempts it took him to make a hole-in-one over his house, which we all watched on the internet. Jibo just got a line on.
2:06:54Pat McAfee:I would like to hear what Jibo thinks. He just had the yardage out on it. He's certainly talking right now. DeCham, bro, you can tell he's a golfer because the neck burn and then the t-shirt polo whiteness on his side. Is that Freddie Bridges? Yeah, that is Taka, Mel. Yeah, Taka's out there.
2:07:11Darius Butler:School him up, Taka. Smart him up. Tell him what to do, Taka. Got a couple gnats and flies flying around his head.
2:07:19Pat McAfee:Bill, let's get some practice. Oh, shit. Bill! Oh, my God. Yeah, I was going to say. All right, DeChambeau pretty dialed in. Bailey McComas. Thanks, Doc.
2:07:35Pat McAfee:Okay, not a bad shot, Bill. Good line. This is not bad, Bill. Well done, Bill. I don't know if he can hear us. Can he hear us right now? No. No, he cannot. Bill's getting complimented by people and he can't hear it. That's so Bailey. I've never heard anything in my entire life.
2:07:50Darius Butler:Story of his childhood, yeah. He never had one.
2:07:54Pat McAfee:Tony.
2:07:58Pat McAfee:It's going to be windy out there Is he going for the other one? Oh shit He's just dialing in his distances
2:08:06Darius Butler:What if he starts lining him right at Bill? Look at Tim McAfee
2:08:09Pat McAfee:Tim McAfee just made an appearance out there Whenever we laid this tee box down Why is he trying to do a little punch shot at this thing? Is that what he just tried to do? Sure looked like it Tim probably told him that Bill, rack focus Look, he's going to start lining up Bill right now.
2:08:25Darius Butler:Can he hear us? Bill does have a helmet on.
2:08:28Pat McAfee:He's certainly trying to hit Bill right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That low stick. We'll be back on the other side with Bryce DeChambeau. Oh, no. Does Bill have a helmet on? He does have a helmet on. Be a friend. Sometimes it might change your life. We might give away a bunch of money on the other side. DeChambeau. Yeah. All right. We'll see you then. Goodbye.
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2:09:44Pat McAfee:Well, hello, beautiful people. We come to you live from the Thunderdome short course here in Indianapolis, Indiana. And I will be hosting out here, Boots on the Ground, alongside a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. D-Butch, what we have behind us is a barbarian, golf ball-whacking genius. How do you feel about today's challenge where he's going to have to hit a 100-yard hole-in-one in 14 attempts? I'm excited about it. It's an absolute alien out here with the golf club in his hand. I'm taking him to hit it, I would say, less than 10 shots. Wow, so D-Butch thinks he's going to make it. Mr. DeChambeau, you've had a couple of takes in it, I do believe.
2:10:20Pat McAfee:You've also tried to snipe our cameraman out there, Bailey, who is wearing a helmet. And we look out for everybody's safety, obviously. How do you feel after hitting it a couple times? Is it a little bit different out here at the Thunder? Yeah, I mean, it's electric, man. This is this atmosphere, you know, the thunder, everything's going on. There actually is lightning and thunder happening. That's what I'm saying. It's electric. So hopefully we can make lightning strike twice. Ooh! Ooh! I think it's already struck 10 times, which is a little bit dangerous. We will get out of the way here. He won 14 attempts.
2:10:49Pat McAfee:Boys, can you hear me back in the Thunderdome?
2:10:52Darius Butler:Oh, no. Not really, but allegedly it's sounding good going through the stream. They said they can't hear us. So it's just, we just can't hear you. It sounds great on the stream, but yeah, we can't hear you.
2:11:03Pat McAfee:Okay, well, you guys sound amazing to us. DeChambeau looks very jacked. 222 pounds, he said. I see it. I like the Reeboks. The Reeboks are clean. We are not talking. Ready? Yes, we are. Oh! It is drawing, drawing. Okay, so you're about three feet off there. I don't have a good eye on it. Boys, what did you see from out there? Bailey Zimmerman.
2:11:36Pat McAfee:Okay, a little bit short there. Now, are you going to take a breather, or do you think more rapid fire? Jibo, do you think you need to just get after it, or what do you think? Momentum player, you just got to keep going. Momentum player, Jibo says. We need to just keep getting after it. DeChambeau. Boom. Trying to draw that thing. D, but he's been short a couple times. Yeah, he's trying to draw it in there. What number are you trying to hit it to, Bryce? I'm trying to hit like a 103-yard shot, 102-yard shot. 103, 102. So it's just going to be over a 10 o 'clock shot for me. Yeah, about 10.05. That's pretty good.
2:12:09Pat McAfee:It's about 10.07. Oh, dancing though. Hey, these rust greens, greens. I'll tell you what, I do have some sand on there. They will be polite to you if you bring in it from the sky. DeCham, bro, on his. Oh. Go ahead. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. All right. How many balls do we have left now? How many balls do we have left? I don't know. We had 14 in there at the time. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Nine balls. Okay, so that was five. We're still good. Hey, we're in a good spot. I still feel great about my 10 or less. Yeah, that one might have been the one. That one. DeChambeau on his sixth attempt.
2:12:51Pat McAfee:Big draw. Amazing how much it's turning on just 100 yards. Hold on, hold on. Can we get a – hold on one second. Bailey, can you take that ball off? Can you take the ball off? Bailey with his helmet. Bryson hit him. Bryson hit him. Yeah, he's getting a ball. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. One of the shitballs is out here. Bailey McComas. Oh, no. All right, it was close. Somebody let Bailey know that he was just about two to three yards away from getting sniped by a DeChambrook ball. Okay, let's get back to serious business. Enough of you messing around. I don't like to mess it around. Yeah, enough jagging off.
2:13:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, a lot of jocularity out here. Focus. Bailey's good.
2:13:39Pat McAfee:100-yard shot. DeChambrook. Get right, get right. So you're trying to draw a 100-yard shot. Are you drawing every shot of yours? I didn't know you could even draw from this distance. It's just, I'm a weirdo. No. This guy's stinking golf. Am I actually that good at golf? No, I'm not. I told you my wedges are the worst part of my game. Yeah, and we kind of put you right into wedge territory here. That is the Thunderdome short course. I'll tell you what, this is good training. That one feels real nice. Oh, short though. You know, he said he stopped drinking 12 protein shakes a day. I think if he was on that, he wouldn't be short here.
2:14:15That's right. He might be honest. Maybe let's get jacked up on it.
2:14:20Pat McAfee:Bryson DeChambeau. It's eyeing it. It's finding it. Almost snipes the GoPro. That's sitting right behind. We have five balls left. What have you learned thus far in your nine-ball venture here at the Thunderdome short course? I suck with my wedges. No. Stop being so negative. Is this G-Bo? No, but actually it inspires me to work harder. If I tell myself you're not as good as something, I'm going to go work my butt off twice as hard. You're building that chip on your shoulder by yourself. Coach Knight. Well, let us tell you that the people in the Thunderdome are telling you that you suck at golf.
2:14:54Pat McAfee:Not us. The people in there. We need G-Bo to tell them something. Be a good pal. Okay.
2:15:00Darius Butler:Probably one of the worst golfers we've seen here. Happy Gilmore 2. What would your happy place look like?
2:15:04Pat McAfee:This is what we're talking about. We need a happy place. No, I got a pissed off place right now. Okay, he said, I like hate more than love. No, no, no, no, no. Five shots left. personal agenda here get this thing in the hole 100 yard shot de chambeau oh my god is that it is that it oh you're kidding me wow that would have been what 10 regulation size hey two feet two feet right there so 24 inches or so was the difference between a hundred thousand dollars being donated on that last shot but i think if i know you the more mean you are to yourself the better you're going to get here. So if you'd like to bury yourself anymore right before this shot, we are certainly here for it.
2:15:49It's the perfect amount.
2:15:52Pat McAfee:He's genuinely pissed. There is an aura of intensity. Oh, short. That looks so good. It did look good. That's not going to get it done, folks. Oh, you can hear them in there. I heard that one. Okay, no problem. No problem. Come on, shit, talk me a little more.
2:16:07Darius Butler:You can't be showing up short. I mean, is this golf? Are you trying? Hit the ball, Nancy. Geez, that's Connor in there. He's the one. That's terrible shit talking about LA. Oh, wow. I mean, to be completely clear here, we're operating blind, all right? We're a little bit behind the curtain right now.
2:16:26Pat McAfee:Can't see anything. Sue me. They're getting a heads up on what is happening.
2:16:30Darius Butler:It's for the kids.
2:16:31Pat McAfee:Bryson, what was your thought when you had that?
2:16:33Darius Butler:In his backswing. Right in his backswing. In his backswing.
2:16:37Pat McAfee:It does not matter. Come on.
2:16:39Darius Butler:Oh, my God. Roll. Roll. He's just going. Oh, wait a minute. Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
2:16:44Pat McAfee:Hey, it was rolling, I guess. It was rolling, I guess. Hey, Bill. Bill. Hey, can you clear those out? We got some backspin coming.
2:16:52Darius Butler:Hey, Pat, can you ask him what it was like when he had that first CNN interview when they basically tried to pin that thing on him?
2:17:00Pat McAfee:No, I'm not going to ask him about that. He said you could ask about anything earlier. Hey, he did handle a glass. Oh, my gosh.
2:17:06Darius Butler:Drill Bill right in the shin. He's headhunting right now. Oh, wow. Yeah, I love it. Take your anger out on him. He kills people. All right, last one. Hey, if you catch us, I'll give you...
2:17:16Pat McAfee:$100 ,000. Yeah. This is so nice. He's giving away his house, too. Oh. Did he catch that? Yeah. Catch it, Bill. Oh, my. Have it hit off his helmet. Okay. All right. Have him headbutt one. Now we have... I'll tell you what. He almost didn't headbutt one on purpose there. DeChambeau, incredibly accurate with that. What was that club there? I don't know. Seven. Seven. All right. That was a club I was using. Two shots left at it. That's why he's my caddy.
2:17:48Oh, do it. Just do your thing, darling.
2:17:53Darius Butler:Oh, it's short.
2:17:54Pat McAfee:All right. I'll tell you what. Can't be short on the last one. We know that, D. But before we hit this one, please, we'd like to have a full thing here. Darius, what are your thoughts? You projected less than 10 shots as he's kicking things at the microphone, literally on the ground at this moment. He's missed 1 ,300-yard shots. Wasn't able to put it in the hole. obviously would be an incredible feat. What are your thoughts as we get on the last one? I think he's a guy that actually makes this. One thing I know about Bryce, he's an absolute showman. Great showman in golf right now. So, of course, he's ready to the last ball to sink it.
2:18:21Come on.
2:18:22Pat McAfee:What were we thinking? This guy's not an amateur. We could have gave him 10 shots. We could have gave him 100 shots. It would have been the last one regardless. Because he does contact. The longer the people are watching, the better. And then at the end, we've got to give him a real climax. Jackass. Oh, my God.
2:18:45Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, we've pissed him off before Liv Indy as he throws his club. G-Bo would not get that for him. We do know the story. Yeah. Bryson, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming by. Good luck this weekend. Congrats on everything. Way to do the presidential thing. Try to look out for the future. That's really cool of you. Legit. That's the goal. We're excited about it. We can't wait to empower a bunch of kids to be healthier, live fitter lives. I can't wait. Would have been cool for us to donate$100 ,000 to them. Real cool We'll still do it though We'll donate$50 ,000 To the PCFN PCSFN For Bryson and all the other incredible sports people That are involved in the new fitness council With the president We're pumped and thankful that he came He'll be at Live Indy this weekend It'll be at the club at Chatham Hills I'm assuming it'll be great Congrats to you on being the man Appreciate what you're doing for golf dude Everybody loves you Hey, boys, back in the Thunderdome, I couldn't hear you or see you either, but it was great out here to watch a great, do some of the great things.
2:19:46Pat McAfee:Him putting it to two to three feet a couple different times crazy, but obviously not enough to put it home.
2:19:51Darius Butler:Yeah, but, I mean, it was sweet. There's nothing like watching someone who is a professional golfer. Also, the sound of his ball striking. A little loud in our ears. That was kind of the one thing that was really dialed in. But, you know, hey, hats off to Bryson. You know, that's not an easy hole to dunk. Yeah, he's a junkyard dog. Hawker, you see anything or no? Were you all for the guitar? Are we still on? Are we still on? I don't know. Yeah, we're still on. I could actually see it. He almost made a few of those. Yeah, he had like. Now I get it. Hold on. Are they hitting more? Well, I don't do that.
2:20:26Darius Butler:Yeah, is Toc hitting? Do they know that Mike's hitting? Toc will make it. No, Toc. Yeah, I don't know if they do. Just may mute those ones. But I believe Toc doesn't golf. He tried golf one time and his entire back basically exploded. So he doesn't golf anymore. But that's just classic. I think Tok might have something on his face. I was going to say, for whatever reason, the gnats and the flies seem to be attracted to Tok's entire head. He's been swinging and trying to get those away from him the entire time he's been out here. That's what happens when you wash your hair with gummy bears. You really can't be doing that.
2:21:02Darius Butler:But, I mean, a hell of a challenge. He was close. He was close. He was probably closest to anyone. Well, I don't know. I don't know if Foxy's been closer to that on the 100-yarder. Foxy, you've hit one on each, I thought. Yeah, I've made one on each, correct. It took a lot of tries, though. Not 14? No. You can do it in 14, Fox. Times that by about 1 ,000. No. 14 ,000? No way. You haven't hit 14 ,000 golf balls in your life. No, I have not.
2:21:29Darius Butler:Sorry, I'm asking Bruce. Bruce currently asking Bruce to ask Pat if we should still be live. Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, that is great. Wait a minute. What is Bruce saying? He was lollygagging around. So basically, like, I got to go pick up the Pro-V-1s and bring them back to the tee box. So I don't know. If I had to guess. If I had to guess. Yeah, yeah. I would agree with you. He's coming in right now, Pat. Okay. All right. All right. Phew. Hawk, you almost went running there. I saw you. Yep, almost took off. There's Butch. Is Bryson coming back on two? Jibo. We and Bullion? No, they're one of us bullying him.
2:22:10Darius Butler:We tried to motivate him. Who do you think? I was trying to motivate him. I couldn't hear a thing. Yeah. I was trying to motivate him. He said he's better when he's pissed. Trying to make him better, man. You think you got him pissed? He said he was pissed. Did you see? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we could see it.
2:22:28Pat McAfee:So, I'll tell you, it was thunder or lightning out there. Like, stormed coming. Yeah, really? Yeah, like, projected two minutes ago. So, whenever we were sitting out there and we were running that video beforehand, we were trying to figure it all out, he was, like, actually, and the team was, like, got some atmospheric pressure in here. That's why the entire beginning was, like, yeah, we're trying to get lightning, strike a few different times, because golf, I think that is a sport that you don't want to be. Yeah, exactly.
2:22:56Darius Butler:Oh, yeah, they'll put the sirens out. So his last five, six swings were a bit sawed off. So I wonder if that was he didn't want the club all the way up in here.
2:23:04Pat McAfee:Exactly. He moved down one more of an ear to ear. From 10 p.m. here to about, you know. Yeah, like a 7 p.m. over.
2:23:11Darius Butler:Yeah, 4 p.m. It was crazy to see how much he was drawing it with the wedge. Bro, that thing was going.
2:23:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, you asked him about it. It looks like it, too. Yeah, it is. Because it looks like it's hitting Bailey in the head. Yep. And then that thing just turns in. You sure you want to go right at it? Yeah. I like G-Bo's little vibe out there. G-Bo's good at energy. I like that DeChambeau got all pissed off at himself. Yeah, I like that. I bet you he said some mean stuff to himself.
2:23:37Darius Butler:I'd assume so.
2:23:38Pat McAfee:Did you hear that, AJ?
2:23:40Darius Butler:Oh, yeah. I'm sure he does. I mean, golfers, like you said, it motivates him. Even though he says, oh, I'm terrible with my irons. We know he's – it's all relative. We get it.
2:23:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's terrible in comparison to what he wants to be, you know, which is kind of the classic competitor thing. I went through a phase of when I was planning just telling myself terrible things to piss myself off that's not a fun time it was a lot better when I was like let's go ball in this thing that was a lot more fun but I think you go through phases of figuring out how to focus in you gotta find little games on how to focus you could tell the last couple he was actually
2:24:17Darius Butler:actually locked in
2:24:20Pat McAfee:you could see Shane Gillis talking about that sumo wrestling he was in there this one feels a little bit more intense and then they they did get after it it was like you could very much sense whenever he was like hey i'm gonna actually try to make this thing and uh those are all the ones that went to two three feet
2:24:36Darius Butler:yeah the entire time i thought this one was rolling back yeah this one had kept coming if the greens had been treated recently yeah thanks a lot russ the spin is unbelievable him
2:24:46Pat McAfee:and bubba i mean i'll tell you i've hit a thousand golf balls back there all of mine bounced 10 yards into the air. I don't know how they actually do that.
2:24:54Darius Butler:You got to hit down. You got to hit drop.
2:24:56Pat McAfee:No, guys.
2:24:58Darius Butler:I don't know if you've ever gone before. I don't know if you've ever gone before.
2:25:04Pat McAfee:You got to hit ball first. Him starting to pipe him at Bill was awesome. Yeah, that was great. You should do that again. If Bill doesn't jump a half an inch, if he jumps two inches instead of an eighth of an inch vertical when he was holding the cap because he didn't want to drop it. Yeah, this one. It was like right here. It was literally like right there. Gotta make that play. Can you imagine that thing? 100 grand. Breaking his hand, a couple fingers. We will donate to that foundation. It's very cool. I'm happy they're looking out for the future of the United States of America. Oh, yeah. They got rid of that box, too, the blue box.
2:25:39Pat McAfee:Yep. Yes. Do you have that, AJ? Obviously, everybody did. It was the same thing.
2:25:42Darius Butler:Yeah, I think I did, but I actually, surprisingly, I could touch my toes. My hamstrings are not too tight.
2:25:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're number five overall pick.
2:25:48Darius Butler:Yeah. Shocker. Well, I mean, flexibility is not – it's like you're born with certain parts of that. I know.
2:25:53Pat McAfee:I can't touch my toes. I have to be the only punter, I'd assume, in the history of the NFL that can't touch his toes. But, like, I couldn't do it. It never happened. I'm very tight. I'm trying to get loose. Like, look, my whole life, trying to get loose. I meet a new coach. They got this brilliant idea. We need you to start working on this. We need you to start working on this. Get you a little bit more flexible. You got it, coach. Another year goes around. Nope. Then we have those like pre, you know, training camp. You do those tests. Got to hold the stick, do the squat, do the entire thing. Every single year it's the same thing.
2:26:25Pat McAfee:We need to get more flexible. It's like, you got it. What's the plan this year? This is what the plan's going to be. It's like, all right, yep, I'm going to stick to it. Never. So I've just never been able to be a flexible person, never wanted to be a flexible person, and that little blue box bullied me. I mean, these unathletic little fucks, okay, these little kids just sitting down there. Oh, look at you. and they're getting celebrated it's like they're out i'm like you're not let's get a ball let's do it let's do something any of these other things we got it and it was i felt like that thing did bully me legitimately took me out but i'm happy they're getting back into it i like that there's a you know the nfl tried to play 60 thing yeah yeah sure like it there's always like seemingly a promotion of like hey we need you to be active we need people to remain active I think throughout time, you know, and I think we've learned this over the last half decade or so, doctors have differing opinions on things.
2:27:18Pat McAfee:And there's different stats that kind of operate against each other on a regular basis. And whoever's the most popular doctor normally ends up winning in this entire thing. Every single doctor seemingly says, hey, you need to pump. You need to get your heart pumped. You need to be active. You need to move. You need to move. It feels like that is just a universally agreed upon thing. So I'm happy whenever there's an effort by government or whatever to try to make that a thing for our entire country. And hopefully it'll work. A lot of powerful names on there. A lot of powerful names. A lot of different political aisles too, I think.
2:27:51Pat McAfee:Now, granted, there is certainly those who are on Team Trump in there as we're lining up. But I think they are just trying their best to like, you know, I appreciate that effort. I do. Now it's the government. And they got to work with teachers. And I think teachers really love this particular, right? In that kind of the...
2:28:08Darius Butler:You're going to have to really train those teachers to try it, because especially if it's from your baseline to get better, you've got to train them in these certain areas. Teachers, I think, not... Especially in high school. I'm not getting into it. Mr. Jack would have been all over. I agree. They care about the kids. I agree. They love the kids. Teachers.
2:28:28Pat McAfee:And they won't care about who will get credit for this particular thing. It won't get into that. That's not really how politics works. That's not how it all goes. No, I agree. Yeah, I agree. That's why they included both sides.
2:28:37Darius Butler:Like Nick Gose is there.
2:28:39Pat McAfee:All right. I hope it all works out. All right. Be a friend. Tell the friends. It seems like everybody would be on the same page. Always are. Yep. And that's what we're about. Hell, yeah. Exactly right. Everybody needs to do one. Maybe they should be rowing it. Everybody should be rowing in the same direction. That's good fitness. That's full body. Everybody, they should wake up and go into school, and everybody should have to get on a row machine and row in the same direction. 20 minutes. See what we're doing here? See what we're doing here? We're Jimmy Graham and across the Arctic. That's right.
2:29:08Pat McAfee:Is he alive? Yeah. Completely. And well. And retired. This one was two feet away. I'm just now seeing it from the close-up shot.
2:29:17Darius Butler:Yeah.
2:29:17Pat McAfee:Should have gone in.
2:29:20Darius Butler:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stuck.
2:29:24Pat McAfee:Good shot by Billy. I tried to miss it.
2:29:26Darius Butler:Good production out there, by the way.
2:29:27Pat McAfee:I mean, I couldn't hear anything. You guys couldn't hear us either? Yeah, not really. We could hear Bryson and, boy, him hitting the golf ball.
2:29:35Darius Butler:So we couldn't hear your mic, but we could hear the ground mic. So we picked it up that way.
2:29:39Pat McAfee:Oh, got it. Well, whatever the case, great shots. Way to pull it off. Also, there's a rainstorm, so let's go ahead and make sure we get all the tech stuff in there. It's great. Way to pull it off. Thank you to DeChambeau for coming and hanging out. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Big day tomorrow.
2:29:52Darius Butler:Huge day.
2:29:54Pat McAfee:Big day tomorrow, AJ. Wednesday. Is it Saturday? No, because I'm not drinking Dr. Pepper right now. I think you're allowed
2:30:05Darius Butler:I don't know the rules We can go make it Saturday
2:30:11Pat McAfee:Oh it feels like Saturday Certainly tastes like Saturday Without a doubt Is it? I don't think so You know what? Fuck it It's Tuesday Might as well You know what? In my mind It's Saturday
2:30:31Darius Butler:Saturday somewhere
2:30:33Pat McAfee:we're talking Saturday hey okay we can I was going to say yeah alright the AI thing just know what these brains know in this particular office I think we're about probably a month ahead of everybody else definitely ahead of the curve I think we're about a month ahead of everybody else that's a long time AJ it's wall The future is here, and the future is wild. But the future, also kind of awesome. Convenient. That's all we're going to say. Okay. Big football season coming up. Yep. Three weeks from, two days from now, we've got a football NFL game. Hell yeah. Next, next weekend, Texas-Ohio State.
2:31:24Yeah, even before that, they've got the Ireland game.
2:31:26Pat McAfee:Kansas State-Iowa State. Yeah. Parmageddon in Ireland. Yeah. Bit of a snoozer, but that's okay. He's from Iowa. He's saying that strictly because he hates Iowa State. And I guess Kansas State. No. Actually, I love Coach Klyman. He went to my high school. So I'm a big Coach Klyman guy. So you need him. But I actually kind of need Iowa State to win because I'd need that matchup against Iowa to mean a little bit more. Because we don't got a lot of big games this year. You know, every game if you're coming to Kennec is a fucking big game. So, you know, it's kind of a tomato-tomato thing. How's your guys' schedule?
2:31:59Pat McAfee:Pretty good. You guys seemingly always have a good schedule. Yeah, I'll tell you what. If Mark Gronoski does what Iowa fans are expecting him to do, we'll see you in the playoffs. Have you heard about Scotty Fox over at West Virginia? No, how's he playing? He's getting enrolled out of high school to West Virginia. One of the first kids to ever just enroll out of high school to go to West Virginia. Kid from Ohio. Sunshine type here. The boys love him. I guess he is magnetic out there. Obviously, we've got Nico Mozart. Sure. Still doing it and spinning it. We've got Jalen, I believe is his name, from Texas A &M.
2:32:29Pat McAfee:and Rich Rod still got his fire. So maybe Iowa should play West Virginia this year. Why don't we set it up?
2:32:34Darius Butler:Let's do it. I think they host IU, Penn State, and Oregon, so a lot of big games at Kinney. Hmm.
2:32:42Pat McAfee:Is there going to be game day over there? There's a chance. Certainly a chance. Who do you guys play first? You guys got St. Mary's? No, we have a very tough U of Albany squad. Wow. Okay, so not St. Mary's. They rebuilt this offseason. They did. The U of Albany? Oh, yeah. To the gym. I cannot believe Iowa's playing them. It's a night game at Kinnick. Crazy. Those kids from that U of Albany? Yeah. Getting to experience an Iowa game at night? What a moment. Yeah. And then Iowa State. And then Iowa State. Oh, that's week two. Yeah, in Ames. Oh. So that would end your season. No. It's not a conference game.
2:33:27Also, I ain't going to lose. That, too. But, you know, shit.
2:33:30Darius Butler:Mark Gronowski might not have it yet. Can't lose back-to-back. Well, I don't know because we were talking about the Heisman odds. Everyone's sucking off Arch, rightfully so. He's a Manning. I didn't notice Mark Gronowski up there, and he's the only guy who actually has one of fucking Heisman, albeit an FCS Heisman. But, you know, I mean, maybe. Look at his throw. Okay, hey. Look at this. This is great. Find the fucking deep ball post. Hey, third and four. We got the first down.
2:33:53Pat McAfee:Find the goddamn deep ball. Find the post. That ball was thrown to a location. which is what Iowa fans didn't know existed in college ball for a long time. Granowski can move. He can spin it. And they're saying he's a leader, ain't he? Oh, yeah. Great ball. Oh, yeah. Boys love him.
2:34:08Darius Butler:Seven on seven. Is that not even 11 on 11? Boys love him. Broke the pocket.
2:34:13Pat McAfee:That's Ohio State. Buckeye over there talking like that. That's a great ball.
2:34:17Darius Butler:I respect Iowa. I mean, we got other clips of him. Like you said, show the deep ball. Thank you. What are we doing? Thank you. Well, there's more clips. I haven't seen it. No, yeah. Well, hey, are we practicing? I mean, what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah, if that happens week one, I'll be upset. You know, I mean, team install. Sure, he's not ready for the snap. Okay, it's going to happen every once in a while. I heard balls on the ground.
2:34:37Pat McAfee:No. There we got balls on the ground. Fumbles? No. Turnovers before the play even starts. Oh, no. Hey, if there's one thing I was going to do this year, they typically ain't turning the ball over. Now, they may go three and out. They may punt quite a bit. You guys might throw a football this year. They're going to. Which is what you guys don't normally do. They're going to, yes. So, you know what comes with that a little bit? Oh, jeez. That's a clip Zito just found. I don't know. Cold practice. I was going to say, what are we doing? I don't know why Zito did that. We trying to fucking practice.
2:35:05Pat McAfee:But, you know, whenever you guys, hey, and just do this, it's hard to turn the ball over. It is. Well, now, listen, we still got guys who can do that as well. Turn it over? No, fucking run the football down your goddamn throat like Iowa will do every year. But now we got a guy who can throw the football and throw it a country fucking mile as well. I thought you guys don't like that over there. No, we do, which is why I was trying to run A, the fat son of a bitch they had two years ago, and Cade McNamara last year, trying to run them sons of bitches out of town. And we'd listen to me. Gronowski's your guy.
2:35:42He's my guy. And we got Hank Bryan, Auburn transfer as well.
2:35:47Pat McAfee:Henry. Yeah, natural thrower of the football. Is Iowa winning the Big Ten? Nobody's talking about it. Nobody's talking about it, and that's exactly where we want to be. Here's Gronowski throwing a deep ball, I believe we just found it. Yeah, is this the Vandersea? Nah, this ain't the one I'm looking for. Okay, back shoulder. Back shoulder, symbol. That ain't the one I'm looking for. Find the one to Vandersea, the fucking strike down the seam for a touchdown. That's the one we're looking for. We don't need to do this, though. The proof will be in the pudding week one against a tough, tough UAlbany squad.
2:36:21All right. Yeah.
2:36:23Pat McAfee:It's college ball. Here it is.
2:36:27Great footage. That's not the one I'm talking about. That's from this year? But there's another one. That's from this year? Yeah. That doesn't look like from 2025. That's not the one I'm talking about.
2:36:39Pat McAfee:But they're out there. They are out there. I watched them all fucking weekend. On repeat. Speaking of this weekend, who watching Marty McGee on Saturday mornings? Every Saturday, yep. Dr. Pepper in my hand. On the SEC network? You bet. Especially this time of year. I tried to call in. I heard that. I tried to call in, age. What happened? What happened? I was sitting in Nick Morales' parents' basement. Okay? Like the good old days. We got Marty McGee on TV. As we do. Like the good old days. And he says, why don't you call in? Somebody had a great call. I'm like, yeah, this is like the good old day.
2:37:14Pat McAfee:I'm fucking calling in. Takes me 45 times to get through. Like after the 20th time of not being able to get through, like, you know, it's like old school days. I'm like, all right, I got to get on now. Like this is, I'm going to keep doing this. We had nowhere to go for about an hour and a half. So I just kept calling in. Finally get through. Say I'm Patty from Plum. I just want to talk about my friend's opinion on Arch Manning and where he ranks in the SEC. And the guy goes, I forget, the producer guy goes, all right, Patty, I'm going to put you on hold. We'll see if you got to go. All right.
2:37:45Pat McAfee:And he puts me on hold, and I sat there. Yeah. Three seconds. Sat on hold. Yep. And everybody had to hang up, take a shower, go to something. But I was trying my best. Did they ever find out that it was you? I texted Marty when I took a screenshot of me being on hold for like 12 or 13 minutes. And it was about a minute or two before I hung up. and I sent it to him. He saw it at the break. He was like, you're on hold? Callback. I was like, I got to go. Too late. I got to go, man. I was just trying to get in there. It was going to be about you. I didn't say – I didn't put him – I didn't rank him six or seven.
2:38:15I didn't do that.
2:38:16Pat McAfee:No, I agree. Okay. You're ranking of him, though. It seems like the way – Preseason – what does AJ say about preseason ranking? They don't mean shit. No matter who they're coming from. Even if they're coming from me. Exactly. Sure. Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow's a big day. Huge day.
2:38:35That was a good ball. It was a great ball. It was a little green ask. Yeah, I was tracking.
2:38:40Darius Butler:It was a little green ask. A little bit.
2:38:43Pat McAfee:What's that say? I-B-V. Let her fly. Yeah. It's a little flat. Ball is flat. That's tough. Which, not good for punter. Good for thrower. I was going to say that was a tight spiral. Yeah, but I was trying to sideways. When something turns sideways, I'm sure some quarterback coach would tell you, it's because I wasn't snapping it off and off. I was doing a little bit of laziness. Hill Rivers. That ball didn't go in, so I guess tomorrow's going to suck. But we'll still do a show. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice about changing life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three.
2:39:16Pat McAfee:Shout out to DeChambro. Yeah, we are. Shout out. Good man. Shout out to Shrags calling in for a couple minutes. Mm-hmm. Shout out to… Jake Kruhl. Committing to Oklahoma on the show. And shout out to Mark Gronoski. Oh. I think this is the one. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's a pretty good ball. Beautiful. You know. S6 on Saturday is every way you count it.
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