PMS 2.0 1389 - Country Music Superstar Riley Green LIVE in the ThunderDome, Pete Thamel, Chiefs Owner Clark Hunt, & AJ Hawk

21:35Pat McAfee:Maybe you should launch that artist, the Pittsburgh artist, and that's where you have like two Garth Brooks. Oh, yeah. Chris Gaines. Chris Gaines thing. And then he could do with the Pittsburgh accent. Yeah. But nonetheless, he became a cowboy and a gambling show host because of COVID. Nobody talks about that. He went from being a Pittsburgh guy to an actual cowboy. It's amazing. Thank you. It is. Thank you. I needed that. But you talked about signing with a label in 2018. That's huge for the career. But did you feel like you really made it when you got a bar in Nashville? Like after playing in Nashville at those bars?

22:08Having a bar in Nashville, I feel like that's when you finally made it as a country musician. Yeah, I don't even know that I was there yet when that happened. But, I mean, what's so cool about it is it's not on Broadway. It's not over there with all the other bars. I was going to go in bars, and it was full circle for me because Losers and Winners is where I spent all my time. And everybody I met in town, every artist, every songwriter was in that building. I don't know a lot of artists that go to Broadway that go downtown. I mean, it's kind of a mayhem down there, so touristy. So it was cool that it was in a local hangout like that.

22:39And there was Whiskey Jam used to be in the same building where the Duck Blind is now. So I've got a bar where guys come in there and get their start kind of the same way I did. It's really cool to go in there. And I can't get thrown out of that bar.

22:50Pat McAfee:There's one bar in town that they cannot throw me out of. It feels like that place is a bar that you want to go to. Just as somebody that's been there a few times. The ice cream, first of all, fantastic. Nobody's going to talk about it. Yeah, I've got to say this. I was with my partner that owns a bar. Steve, dog, legend. He told me he wanted to put an ice cream bar in there, and I'm like, yeah, that's cool. I'm like, nobody's going to eat ice cream at the bar. And then I don't know where we were, but you and Earn FaceTimed. and that's all they were talked about. They were like, this ice cream, and then I was like, y 'all had some ice cream today?

23:25He said, no, no, no. We had ice cream today while we were at the bar. We left, came back up to the bar just to get some more ice cream and I was like, okay, this whole time I've been wondering who is going to get ice cream and I was like, that's... Okay. Okay. I'm the only demo. No, it is a great place. Everybody likes it, honestly. I've heard that. Everybody likes it.

23:43Pat McAfee:It is a nice little pick-me-up because you think to yourself, holy shit, is cookies and cream ice cream here? Yeah, I will. I'll take some of that. But that is cool to have because I think getting that bar, I think there is a lot of conversation about who's allowed to get a bar, who's not allowed to get a bar. A lot of respect for you amongst your peers. I think that has to be a pretty sweet thing. Yeah, man, it's a very validating thing. And there's been a lot of that stuff in my career. You know, playing country music is a grind like anything else. I had a lot of guys that played professional baseball about the same time I kind of had my career take off.

24:14And I remember having conversations with them and kind of seeing the similarities because there is such a battle to stay relevant. You know, if you're 28 years old in Major League Baseball and there's a guy that's coming out of school and he's 22 and he's as good as you, you know, that's kind of it for you. And there's so much now with TikTok and all these ways that these guys, I mean, overnight, these guys can kind of have somewhat of a career. So knowing that, I think the thing that keeps you motivated, even when things can get a little monotonous, because I tell people all the time, we play the same songs every night, in 120 plus shows a year is when you have those moments where you're like, okay, something's working.

24:51People are buying in. Whether it's a bar, getting to play Red Rocks or having a tour sell out or whatever it is, awards, it's just those things keep you going. And it's like having success in a ball club.

25:04Pat McAfee:I think it's an impossible thing to do, that music world. Oh, yeah. Especially after hanging out down there a little bit. So many people. Well, yeah, there's so many talent. But I mean, so many people. Everybody. So many. So many people. There's a lot of great athletes, too, though. You know, no shortage of great ballplayers. What I figured out from my little stint of play, and I remember Kevin Green. Oh, KG. Rest in peace, brother. Saw his boss through the whole thing. He's from Oxford, Alabama, right down the road from me. And he came and spoke to us a couple of times, and he said something that was interesting.

25:34He was talking about ballplayers being in the NFL, and he said the difference in a great player is from the neck up. And, you know, when you're playing, you hear stuff like that from somebody, and you go, eh. When it comes to Kevin Cranes, it's a little different. But there's a lot of that in the music industry. You can kind of be as successful as you want to. Yeah, you've got to have some breaks. You've got to have a little bit of talent. You've got to get with the right people, surround yourself with a good team. But with me, when I'm not on the road, I feel like I need to be right. If I'm not right, I feel like I need to be in the gym.

26:05Or if I'm not in the gym and it's hunting season, I need to be in the woods somewhere because that stuff is working for me. It's all helped. That's football for sure, don't you think?

26:11Pat McAfee:Yeah. I think that is all Like, for me, I think football has helped me immensely in this world. 100%. It's like not only like work ethic and when you're tired, you still got to do stuff and working as a team, having other people do stuff and kind of relying on it. I mean, like, I think sports are the greatest thing of all. I think everybody should play team sports. There's an accountability that I didn't have at 18 years old when I got out of high school. Everybody's making you go to class. They're making you do this. And then when I got to college and, you know, they kind of say be here at this time.

26:39And if you're not, we're not going to wait on you, you know. I mean, I wasn't good enough they were going to stop practice for me. So I learned a lot from my little stint playing ball. But I have to assume that that's rolled over into my music career because I'm motivated to have the biggest career I can for the fact that I know I've got an opportunity, you know.

27:12Pat McAfee:I think we're all still amazed. You should write a song about football back in the day. That'd be sweet. We might have had one right there for you. We might have literally just... Old football we played? Way... But it's not... You don't just talk. Riley, you're a fucking singer. Old football we played. Way back in the day. And then I'll jump in. Okay. Oh, you're so fucking jacked. I think we're all still amazed. I wish I had a Dr. Pepper. Don't we all, brother? Don't we all. Riley, before we let you get out of here, and thank you for hanging out with us. You were very cool. You were good vibes.

27:54Pat McAfee:Great time. You were very good vibes. You're a team, too. Good people. Thanks for letting us make this work when we were here. This is nice. He's playing the Live Golf Tournament Kickoff Celebration Festival at 5 o 'clock at the club at Chatham Hills here in Carmel, Indiana, I do believe. You also have an album coming out August 29th, a deluxe album, which I think we will certainly be jamming in here. Absolutely jamming. I'm going to send y 'all some little sneak preview. Ooh. Okay. Look at us. I might be able to make some. Make some adjustments? I'm not going to send y 'all anything. No, no, no, please.

28:31I promise. I promise. Okay. That's the last thing I wanted to parody, though. No, no, no. And you know what? No parody.

28:38Pat McAfee:Is this a serious, really heartfelt song? No, no, no, no. I promise we will not touch your art. No, no, no. But we would be honored to hear it for sure. And thanks for hanging out. Thanks for being cool. Thanks for representing football, by the way. Yeah. And would you like to do a little bit of something and maybe have a giveaway here on your way out? Let's do it. Let's give it away, man. Okay, what do you want to do? Oh, there's a give it away, give it away, give it away. Maybe add that tonight. Maybe do that. Do you want to throw a football? You think you still got it? Balls are flat, so it might be a little bit different.

29:06Pat McAfee:Isn't that good? didn't they well yeah let's not get into this because he's from Boston we can go into the science of it and we don't have to forget about it exactly there you go nailed it New York but okay

29:22Pat McAfee:so do you want to hit one of those three holes your legs are tiny holy fuck yeah but he can move them he said he can move them oh okay they said they're pogo sticks but he said I used to be able to move those things I didn't realize I didn't realize they were so small you were right bad boys is hard that's all we were talking about

29:43Pat McAfee:that's all okay okay you're incredibly jacked I don't know how easy it is going to be to throw a football or anything like that as we start lifting Connor can attest to this obviously as we get after it's hard to do you know okay so we'll give we'll give 30 people $500 who repost this on X and say something nice to somebody and put Yeah, dude. 30 people,$500. 30 people,$500. But it's not just giving it away. You're earning it for him. Our hero, Riley Green. New album, deluxe album, coming out August 29th. You can see him right now at 5 o 'clock. Well, I guess not right now. 5 p.m. today at the Live Golf Tournament Super Duper Kickoff Special Classic.

30:25Pat McAfee:Let's go. It's called a Super Duper Kickoff Classic. Yeah. Fucking start your thing with that. Live Indy. Riley, if you make it into any of those three holes over there, we'll give 30 people$500. All they got to do is repost it, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you. Thanks to your friend Riley Green. You can go to Riley's Duck Blind down in Nashville. Hell yeah. You can go down. I don't know. That was Pittsburgh. I thought there was a little Southern in there. Yeah, there was some twine. Wait a minute, though. I really like one. Yeah, I like that. All the way back.

30:58Pat McAfee:That was a C. That one might be too flat. Is that too flat? That's too flat. You need to look for the College ball That might be too small for you That's the Duke I don't know if he can Well the funny thing about that is It is cold in here I want a bear It's up

31:24Pat McAfee:You want to hit the bear? I want the bear Okay if you hit the bear Just in general Everybody hits$10 ,000 from you you're giving away all the profits from his next album

31:42Pat McAfee:Riley Green if you're able to throw that football and hit that bear or put it in any of those three holes if you have to audible last second if you hit anything over there basically but there is a lot of air out there that you can hit as well there's a lot of miss out there bear forehead If you hit the bear in the forehead, we'll give 50 people 500. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Grab the college ball. You have not thrown a college ball. And look who's on that. West Virginia right there. Coach Rod, bless that ball. Did you play baseball too? Did you pitch? How fast?

32:19I couldn't throw a baseball. I could throw it all over the place. We're seeing that. 30 people. All right. Jeez Louise. All right. One more. There's another college ball. Sorry, take some shrapnel. There's another college ball. I love how hard you're throwing this. I love this. It's exactly like my golf game. All over hard.

32:37Pat McAfee:Riley, if you're able to hit this, people are going to win some green. Okay? 50 people,$500. All you have to do is take that ball and hit the bear. The bear. That is seven foot tall. All the touch. Glad country worked out, Riley. I might as well throw the last three. Yes. Yes. You might as well. It's not going to be 50 the whole time. You might need to throw it a little bit harder. Oh, they got more ball. Yep. I'll feed you. Alabama ball. That's what we needed.

33:14Enough of this Sally shit. Throw it as hard as you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:18Pat McAfee:What happened? 30 people. There you go. Jeez, you're getting unlucky here. Dude. 30 people. $500. I'm going to cover it a little more bear. Yeah, you did. Yes, you did. All right, you have to hit the bear. This is final ball, okay? Enough with the shit. Somebody got snapped. Oh, football replay. Way back in the day. Because you're so fucking jacked. Why don't you make 30 people? Okay.

33:49Fuck.

33:51Pat McAfee:30 people,$500. Yes. Another incompletion. All right, that's why he does music, okay? You got a hell of an arm, son. You got a hell of an arm. This guy's got a real big. He does. You got a lot of big. You impressed us today. I know you're not going to love that that's how that went. It's fine. We've had real quarterbacks come in here, walk all the way up to the net stand right next to him and throw it in. So just throw in that many. But what you need to know is a lot of people miss, and also you will be remembered. not only from our spirit and mind for what you do there. It's like a 10 cup thing I got a 13 on the last hole we will see Riley Green all over this office forever.

34:36Pat McAfee:I don't know if we'll ever clean that wall. You hit one up there to the CFB, you hit one right above obviously the bear's head we see you there. We got Riley Green all over this place. That's how it's supposed to be. That's right. I appreciate you man. Good luck at the live super duper golf kickoff class. Don't play during Rom's back win. He'll beat your ass. Rom will fight you. Yeah, and he's got a good base. I get a redemption dunk. Okay. Hell yeah. If I can dunk a basketball. You can't, but you got it. Now we got a white man can't jump thing going on here. Well, you're 36 years old. You're in cowboy boots.

35:11I got tennis shoes on.

35:13Pat McAfee:No, you can't change. What are you going to change? What do we have, Paul? What do you think we got? Good. Are you going to do it in jeans? Those are good looking boots. Oh, yeah. Those are slick. I mean, a lot of people would say if you're a real cowboy, you dunk in boots. Are those ostrich? No, we don't need a Tom Segura situation in them boots. That's a good point. I need a Tom Segura situation. Not with Riley. You're not with Riley. Not with Riley, but if I were to see that in person, my life would be fulfilled. I don't need him breaking that right arm. I need you throwing footballs that hard for the rest of your life.

35:40Forever.

35:41Pat McAfee:Fire that pigskin, boy. And Riley said, I will. You were told that. Maybe that's a song. Oh, football play. Way back in the... See? See? It's about to happen. I'm going to throw this thing so fucking hard. I don't care what they say. Okay, hold on. You're just going to... Hold on. Oh, baby. You're from Jacksonville, Alabama. 36 years old. Riley Green. If you can dunk right now, we'll give 30 people... Oh, no! Got it! No way! Got it! No way! No way! His hand's got to touch the rim! He's right there! He said one more. One more. I need another one. He says, excuse me. Let me go ahead and get up there and get this thing.

36:27Pat McAfee:Let me wreck a rim. Oh! 30 people! $500 because Riley Green, still an athlete. Now, we don't know how this is going to carry. Yeah, that's a lot of explosion. I don't know how often you're doing that. You're incredibly jacked and you're incredibly talented. We appreciate you. That's Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen. Riley's a legend. Obviously, this is a sports show. He was a college football player. That's right. Got to keep in touch. Obviously, he's performing at a golf tournament. That's a lot of sports stuff, and he was awesome. You need to know off-air, he was just as awesome as he was on-air, and we're pulling for him hard as we continue to go.

37:01Pat McAfee:Now, what happened while we were talking to him and while that ran? Well, we have now learned of what the Michigan sanctions are going to be from the NCAA final from the Connor Stallion situation. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's been on the case literally since the beginning, almost too much on the case. People told him, hey, it seems to be a little bit of a work. Ladies and gentlemen, the authority on college football and college basketball from College Game Day, Pete Thamel. Yeah, Pete! How you doing, Pete? I know you were catching the tail under that. Did you think Rodley Green was going to be able to dunk that second one or no?

37:33I thought he had no chance, Pat. I thought he had no chance.

37:35Pat McAfee:As did we, to be clear, very much, because he's very jocked. You'd think he'd be a little bit too stiff. He said he worked under the hoop. That was kind of his thing. New album, August 29th. Now, Thamel, let's get to this. whenever we heard the NCAA was going to announce their punishment for the Michigan infractions, we wondered which one it was. Then he came in and said, well, this is the Conor Stallion stuff. This is the last of the Conor Stallion's investigation. And basically, it's a money game and a money play. And Sharon Moores suspended one more game, and it's the opener for 2026. Did I miss anything in there?

38:07Pat McAfee:And can you break it down for us a little bit? Sure, Pat. So it's going to end up being an unprecedented monetary cost for Michigan in this. I did some back of the napkin map. It's going to be, I would say, easily over$30 million, the two-year postseason fine of what they would get for the postseason. Michigan would normally get from the postseason. That number is a little bit nebulous just because of some of the vagaries, the CFP money and such. But that number is expected to be well over$20 million. There's an additional$7 million, 10 % of the football budget fine, and then a couple other fines.

38:43I won't bore you with the details. So it's going to be a significant amount of money, but that's the main stick in this. Shroen Moore had self-imposed a two-game suspension this year, which will still be served Game 3 and Game 4. There's an additional game for him in 2026. Michigan oddly opens the season in Germany against Western Michigan. Moore still has the option of whether or not to appeal that singular game suspension for 2026. So we'll see if he ends up doing that or not in the upcoming weeks. And then Conor Stallions himself, Ty's personal hero, he has an eight-year show cause coming to him, which is essentially an employment ban.

39:24So Conor Stallions, it's highly unlikely we will see him on the sideline or watching someone else's sideline. one final one one final one in there Pete

39:36Pat McAfee:take advantage take the lap and then Jim Harbaugh somewhat amusingly has a 10 year show cause which is inordinate length for one of these NCAA penalties he obviously is the coach of the Chargers and doesn't really care you would probably be amused that it's actually a 14 year show cause because this 10 year show cause starts in 2028 he has a 4 year show cause from one of the prior Michigan NCAA investigations So I think that would keep Jim until 2038 off of the collegiate sidelines. But that probably matters as much as me being banned from the Cathedral High School parking lot at this point. Well, I hope you're not banned from any high school's parking lots just going forward.

40:17That's where I went to high school, Pat.

40:18Pat McAfee:Okay, well, shout out to Cathedral. And shout out to you being a great grad of Cathedral and really breaking this all down for us. So basically, it's money. Why would they suspend Sharon Moore in 2026 and not add another game to this particular season? And is there any punishment on the team? I saw the 10 % of the revenue thing, which off of$77 billion or whatever, $77 million would go down to$7 million, which you addressed there. Does that carry over into next year, or are they completely clean, basically, other than money? Like, is there a loss of scholarship? Is there anything that they can't do, prohibited from, football-wise?

40:54some recruiting restrictions, but that stuff doesn't matter as much anymore in the NIL era. I think it's official visits. So as far as the Michigan team, I think there's two big picture takeaways here, Pat. One is that there was no postseason ban in this, despite being significant findings. And I think we've officially essentially ended the era of the postseason ban that the NCAA would give out. And within the 74-page ruling that the NCAA had, they kind of explained why it happened. And what they're doing is they're essentially taking the money from postseason as opposed to the postseason ban.

41:31This is a paradigm shift. But also, dovetailing into that, Pat, this is really the last great NCAA case. The College Sports Commission is now going to investigate things that, you know, if there's vagaries and NIL deals and such. But this is really the last explosive, significant NCAA infractions case. NCAA will still oversee some gambling stuff. They're going to have their hands in a few eligibility things. So I'm not going to say we're never going to talk about the NCAA making a decision again. But just in terms of NCAA enforcement investigating something, you know, significant and holistic like this, this is, there's a very good chance this is the last big NCAA case.

42:10And we've seen these for

42:11Pat McAfee:great news okay let's dance on that great for sure thank god they're done jesus thank god yeah i mean they had a little bit of a terror run there for a while long time picking and choosing burgers and this and you want to go back home we let these other people do it but you can't do it just kind of showcasing a power wielding a heavy sword if you will because they were the ones in charge of everything now i assume there's a lot of work doing all the investigating there's a lot of lawyers i get it it's not easy to do anything but i believe you described or in an interview with you Charlie Baker described it as quagmire.

42:44Pat McAfee:You actually used the word, I believe, quagmire. You've previously said that this was a bit of a quagmire before you got here. Would you like to elaborate on that? And I was like, well, that's a great word. And then he said it was a quagmire. And you guys didn't know. The NCAA finding its new lane, whatever it is, is good for sports. Hell of a run in the investigating. Great job. Kind of. Now, on that note, they couldn't help themselves. They had to do one last NCAA thing. They say, you know what, we're going to suspend them next season, so I have to talk about it again next year. Can you answer that?

43:15Pat McAfee:Why is... I believe, Pat, it's a timing issue because of the timing of when this is coming down. They are moving it to next season. I don't think that... The self-imposed Game 3 and 4 was what Michigan and Sharon proposed to them. And then this is an additional penalty, and I believe the timing of it being pushed next year is just simply because of where we are right now. But I don't have a clear linear answer on that, and I don't think one is in the materials, at least from what I've seen. But it is a little strange. I mean, that's certainly – these things are never easy. Sean Morris saying guten tag.

43:53Pat McAfee:He had German classes lined up. He did. Now he can't go to the game against Western Michigan next year. That's a real – I saw Portnoy, obviously a very distinguished alumni of Michigan. he had a cigar lit pretty good sitting down in a very luxurious place it appeared and he was saying 20 million bucks that's ashtray money for us what are we even talking about here that's real michigan has so many very very very wealthy what is their uh dow or whatever the endowment i think 17.5 billion dollars or something like that you got bentley's and rolls royces in front yards up there in in the university so it's like it being a money situation mostly for that school they're probably saying all right let's move yeah and i think we're all doing that with this right we're all just moving on now it's uh seems like it and the 10-year show cause 14 year i guess in total show cause for jim harbaugh i think we read uh nicole our back tweet that's basically like show cause means if you were to get hired back in they would have to pitch basically for you to be able to get your job uh at that place to like the ncaa they would have to make a ruling on it at the time and then also if he was come back i think she said he would be suspended for like a year or something like that which seems like a lot when he's already been suspended what like four or five games so that'd be a year and five games 10 years show cause feels like that's heavy on hardball is that because he's just been non-compliant in this entire thing or what is that you think yeah i think it's a confluence of things pat remember he started that 2023 championship season self-imposed three-game suspension for the recruiting violations he served a three-game big 10 sportsmanship suspension at the end of the 2023 regular season before they went and won the title tied to the stallions case and uh uh he was not generally cooperative in this so i think this is uh this is the two parties agreeing that they'll never meet again hey good to see you can we see your phone no who are you you guys the fbi yeah oh yeah ncaa we gave up everything we talked to you yeah put it there high five i'll see you that's unbelievable i'm happy it's all over legit and i'm happy they didn't have to vacate a national championship yeah i'm happy you know just strictly and i know ohio state fans are probably thinking the complete opposite i know there's probably some people that are wishing they did have to vacate some things but it's like there's no way the players knew that all this was happening at the same time or whatever was happening and it's like they still had to go execute and uh congrats to michigan i guess moving on and all college football and on that note we got a couple more college ball questions for you pete if that's cool yeah sure go big money coming to a school that i don't think a lot of us expected pete uh kansas david booth uh basically a legend i'm sure before and now i believe his name is on the stadium he donates 300 million dollars to kansas uh assuming this is going to all of their sports should we expect you know swagoo jr to be a kansas jayhawk in 2027 for his freshman year the number one basketball player in 2027 do you think all that money is going to make Kansas unbelievable at sports?

46:56Should I bet on Kansas to win a college football playoff national championship in 2030? What is this$300 million going to be used for? Great question, Connor. I don't think I've ever seen a school shift like Kansas has had and go so hardcore in investing in football as it has in the past I would say four or five years under athletic director Travis Goff. A majority of that money is going to go towards the stadium that you see in the picture here on there, David Booth Memorial Stadium, not surprisingly. Kansas didn't play home football games in Lawrence last year. If you remember, they played some in Arrowhead.

47:33They played at the MLS Stadium in Kansas City because they were amid the multi-hundreds of millions of dollars refurbishment of Booth Stadium. So part of this is going to go towards phase two of this project that is named, obviously, after David Booth. But you can't give Kansas administrators enough to getting there a few years ago, realizing if we don't have vibrant, big-time football, our whole athletics department could get left behind in this new era, which is so football forward. Obviously, Kansas has had unbelievable basketball, you know, since James Naismith was there, right? Bill Self has had a run of dominance there that's, you know, generally the consistency has been unprecedented in modern times.

48:13But Kansas sat back and said, look, if we're not good at football, the basketball stuff is going to get really hard. And so they went and hired Lance Leipold. He's done a great job. They were dismal for an extended period of time after Mark Mangino and before Lance Leipold. You remember the Charlie Weiss era? They were the laughingstock of college football. And this is another sign that they are contenders. Again, Pat, you remember the energy that was there when we were there for game day a couple years ago. And you can feel the momentum growing. Jalen Daniels obviously has his last season of eligibility this year.

48:43They should be good again. I don't know if they're going to be at the top of the Big 12. There should be another very good competitive program again, which is giant progress for Kansas football.

48:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, and if they got that type of money investment now, we assume that's going to continue. And I think that's what they were telling us when we were out there for college game day. It's like, hey, this school is backing us right now, actually. Our alumni is backing us. And we thought they were kind of bullshit. I think I thought they were kind of bullshit. And then all of a sudden, they start building, building quickly, rapidly, and they're winning games. It's like, wait a second. You can, if you have a supportive alumni, you can turn some things around, especially in this modern era. I think it was the bell tower, the clock tower, Campanile.

49:18Pat McAfee:And Carly. Carly. Yeah. The. I remember we did. It was a super paisan name of the bell tower. That campus was awesome. They're giving away beers. I think at one of those places. Wagon wheel. Maybe. Yeah. The wagon wheel. They were very. That place was alive. I was. TCU. Right. That's when TCU went to the national championship. Yes. Yeah. And that's when they walked by us. Yes. That was when. That was the first time that TCU team walked by. And I said. My first reaction was. Holy hell. Yeah. These dudes are gigantic. They were so tall. It's like being on the field, obviously, you see that. But that Kansas team had that run.

49:52Pat McAfee:Now they've got money behind them. Why not keep it rolling? Speaking of money behind them, last question here for you, Pete. Actually, two more. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Pete, speaking of the money, we've seen basically what Texas Tech is doing with their entire athletic department. And now they're kind of like the hot pick to click. Like, hey, this team could potentially win the Big 12 this year. Do we expect Texas Tech to be one of these teams over the next however many years to be a major player in the Big 12? Do they have a realistic shot of winning the Big 12 this year, you think? I'll start with the second question, Ty.

50:27I think they have a realistic shot of winning the Big 12. I don't think they're the favorite. But look, if I had told you this time last year Arizona State was going to be the Big 12, you would have thrown me off the air and thrown some smelling salts under my nose to make sure I was okay. The Big 12 is a wide-open league. They went out and spent a gargantuan amount of money in the NCAA transfer portal and brought in offensive line, defensive line, skill positions. And now in the recruiting space, they're significantly investing. And look, college sports have changed. It used to be stadium size.

50:56It used to be weight room. It used to be, you know, those types of budgetary numbers. Now it's what you can pay players. And Texas Tech, clearly through Cody Campbell, their billionaire donor, has a competitive advantage in that space. I think they're very good this year. I'm not ready to call him Big 12 champion, but they've announced themselves as relevant and contenders in that league as long as those finances follow.

51:18Pat McAfee:We know who's running the Big 12. And we have massive respect for everybody else, Diner. We know who's running the Big 12. You know who it is, Authority. You know what it is. Those Cyclones, man. You want to hear a good West Virginia nugget? Oh, so you did know who I was talking about. There we go. I got a great West Virginia nugget yesterday. A little hard-edged nugget. Okay, let's get that. Search it. Yes. So Rich Rod, your former coach and friend, is a maestro of tempo, correct? Oh, yeah. Like that is one of his things. He's one of the godfathers of tempo, really, and everything. So I was told reliably, Pat, that they will now bring eight ball boys on the road with them this year just to get the ball in quicker because four wasn't enough for Rich.

52:00Pat McAfee:Well, I think if you have the right four, four is enough. I think what Rich saw was, yeah, we got to turn over a lot of things around here. and if you saw what happened at practice the other day that would be that department so if you saw that right there you talk about ball boy that's equipment manager in the stripes there he didn't spot the ball accurately I think he's probably on the hot seat if I had to guess that guy's got eyes on the because Rich Rod said hey we need competition everywhere ball boys you're talking every single part you talk trainers we're talking nutritionists we're talking everything everything in the building we need some competition because boy how was running here before i got here a little bit different a little softer now we're gonna try to be the hardest program in all of united states of america football and uh i'll tell you what if you're tough west virginia's place for you we're gonna find you but i'll tell you what arizona state i mean there is you start going through the big 12 all of a sudden it's like wait a minute that is actually a real conference even though nobody talks about it because the sec in the big 10 run everything and for good reason look at all the national championships that's where they're coming from but everybody with money has a real opportunity and i know some people hate it but if you're a school that has it like texas tech you gotta love it kansas you gotta love it even at west virginia we're enjoying kind of a little rebirth there tone is the last question for you pete yeah i do pete i asked you about quarterback competition yesterday uh one that everyone said i left out was the oregon one i had a i i thought that dante moore was most likely going to be the starter there is that the case that you're hearing as well I think that's the expectation right now, Tone as you look at Oregon, he's obviously been in the program they've given a lot of money to be the backup last year, but it wouldn't surprise me if we do see some real snaps from Austin Novosad this year, really talented young guy coming in, but yeah, I would think that Dante Moore is ahead there right now but I don't know if it's just a hammer lock on the job.

53:59Pat McAfee:Oh, a hammer lock job. Yeah. Lock your tail. Yeah, I got you. I understand completely. Pete, we appreciate you. We'll see you on the road here soon. Way to really be at the beginning of this story. Yep. And now at the end of it. Way to really journalistic the shit out of this. I have a drink. A couple bookends. Yeah, you are. The Pete Thelma bookend Connor Stallion story has ended. What new story will begin? How about the greatest college football season of all time? We're very close. Pete, you're the man. Have a good one, brother. Like, Connor, I'm going to throw my phone in the pond now. we could call it a day.

54:29Love that.

54:30Pat McAfee:Thanks for having me. Pete Thamel. Yay. Just sit on a plane and go somewhere too. Yeah. Should definitely go enjoy himself. A little bit. Dude, the calluses that he has had to build through this story. I mean, you almost had to put him in. Yeah, ride gear. Yeah. Remember when I was, all right, we can talk about it now. Yeah. So whenever the whole, we went to Michigan after Pete Thamel has already broken this story, situation was happening, you know, and Desmond talked his shit Desmond is a Michigan guy. A lot of people got, like, Des, just, he's representing Michigan. Like, I don't know. I think the internet reacted in a way.

55:07Pat McAfee:And I think Des obviously understood what Pete was going through. I mean, it was just, I don't think there was any real heat behind the scenes. A lot of people were talking about it. And I would like to let everybody know, Pete and Des are two people that I very much enjoy. Like, I very much enjoy these people. And I'm very appreciative of them. So we're trying to figure out how they're going to handle it because they thought Michigan people were going to potentially be a little towards Pete. Yeah, because the shit that was being said on the internet towards Pete was like very, very, very serious.

55:29Pat McAfee:Like, you know, it's college ball, and these are Colts, and you're attacking their Colt. And yeah, we think you're lying, and you're being paid by Ryan Day. I mean, he was called everything, let alone he needs to die and everything like that. So we, I don't think, understood the severity of what was happening. We should have understood what the severity was happening. And we came up with an idea. He needs to be in war media regard. War correspondent. We're talking helmet thing, media, right across his chest, and we need to drop him right in the middle of this thing yep and everybody was like we uh we were gonna think about ideas or whatever like we got the idea dude this is what yeah i just told you this is the idea there's no there's no this is and then they were like you you should go look at what's being said to be right now i was like oh we should not keep it we should be away from here there should be a little safety i guess yeah smart play smart although if he was if he would have had that helmet crooked oh yeah media thing yeah conor stallion great it would have been incredible it would have been the greatest moment of all time yeah but i think with those college fans, you do have to worry that a little early in the morning, maybe very late in the night.

56:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, I was going to say a couple cocktails. A couple bottles get thrown. Especially with what we saw Bruce through to Pete. True. That was after the national championship. But no one was also talking about Pete Thamel. You know, someone swinging on him and him just like karate chopping some guy in the throat and incapacitating him. Yeah, he looked a little James Bondy with those glasses. That's why I put mine on. I was like, holy shit, that's a good look. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back.

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57:56Pat McAfee:It's magical. We're lucky to talk about it every single day. We're actually going to be talking to football royalty here in a matter of moments. The Hunt family, if you don't fully understand what they have contributed to football, more specifically Lamar Hunt, who is Clark Hunt, who will be joining us in about eight and a half minutes or so. His father, he is football. Oh, yeah. This guy was a creative. This guy was a forward thinker. And this guy loved football. His family was in oil. His brothers were going to go, basically go find more oil for the business. And he said, I'm not doing that.

58:27Pat McAfee:And he went and tried to start a football team. Then instead of just a football team that he pitched to the NFL, the NFL didn't want to do expansion. He said, you know what? You don't want me to start a team. Okay, I'll start an entire league. Starts the AFL, this guy. Which obviously then leads to the collision course of the two coming together and into the super NFL that we have. Super Bowl, oh yeah, that was coined by Lamar Hunt. Painting the end zones, jerseys, logo, you name it. Basically, everything that is marketing and the spectacle of football, the Hunt family was behind. This guy also was a no-nonsense trailblazer.

59:01Pat McAfee:I mean, he was, in a letter that we saw at the NFL Hall of Fame that he wrote, in the second bullet point, there was somebody that he wanted executed. This guy is not allowed to be around anymore. So he was stern, I think he was fair, and he was a supervisionist for football. And his family obviously continuing to carry the torch. Right now there's a documentary out, the first two episodes of a seven-episode docuseries called The Kingdom on ESPN Plus and Disney Plus. And obviously it's showcasing the current dynasty that the boys are on. I think it's going to be a really good show. The Toxic Table is here at Boss Conner, at Ty Schmidt.

59:33Pat McAfee:You spent a lot of your night last night, Con Man, with The Kingdom. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting, definitely. As a Patriots fan, it was one of those things where you're watching something and wishing you were the fan of the team that you were watching just because of how much cool information there was in there, the stuff that they still have. You mentioned the AFL. They showed in Kansas City they have the original piece of paper that Lamar Hunt created the AFL on as he was in a – Detail-oriented fellow. Wrote a lot. Back in the day, you had to do a lot of writing. A lot of writing. A lot of writing back in the day.

1:00:03Yeah, and he also, too, it wasn't just football. It was just sports in general. I believe he started the World International Tennis Circuit. He's in the International Tennis Hall of Fame, Lamar Hunt. And I believe he was one of the first investors in the MLS. He tried to start a National American Soccer League, the NASL, and that didn't work out. So then that was in like the 60s, and then later on he started the MLS. It actually said that he was very instrumental in bringing the World Cup to the U.S. in 94, and now his son has was very instrumental in bringing it back when we're gonna have it this

1:00:38Pat McAfee:next time hey it's cool to learn about these stories you know because i would never thought that obviously i understand that the kansas city chiefs fan base is awesome and the faithful is incredible but like learning why like hey this is one of the original brother like this is way back football you know i'm from pittsburgh so we're just like hey this is blue collar football town green bay you think the same exact thing kansas city you think this town loves football then you learn the history of it's like this is one of the founding towns of football and also lamar hunt one of the founding fathers of the league like no questions asked in this entire thing i think that's a nice piece of information because obviously the afc championship trophy is named after him right and we hear that every single year especially with the chiefs winning everybody's like well isn't that just convenient it's like there's a there's a that super bowl probably would have been you know if he didn't name it the super bowl in the lombardi it's like it's wild to learn about it is and there's chiefs haters right now of course and uh boys address that in the dock.

1:01:30Pat McAfee:Chris Jones goes, man, we done turned into Patriots. They used to love us. Now everybody hates us or whatever. And it's like, that's what happens when you're successful. And they've been doing a long time there in Kansas City. And to your point about them being a football city, when Lamar Hunt started the AFL, he started in Dallas. He was the Dallas Texans. And then people in Kansas City after the NFL started the Dallas Cowboys, they were like, hey, we probably have to move. And the Kansas City mayor, people who worked in the city, like the city council, they basically sold Lamar Hunt like, hey, Kansas City will be perfect for a football team.

1:02:01And to your point, it really is a football tie.

1:02:04Pat McAfee:It's certainly showcasing the Chiefs. But it's a lot of football history in there. Because this Lamar Hunt guy, I think he's going to be remembered. Now, after this, I think that's why we want to talk about it so much. This dude deserves his flowers. Definitely. I mean, this is a dog. And they're talking about him flying and coach. And we're talking about actually using Band-Aids to keep his glasses together. He was a photographer for the team. You're just talking about one of the most interesting people of all time who happen to love football, which we're incredibly lucky for. One half of the hammer, Cowboys AP Tone is here.

1:02:37Pat McAfee:Football is really close, brother. This documentary has given us a little bit of a taste. A lot of big games being revisited in that thing. Yeah, we are very, very close. Things like this kind of just feed your itch in the meantime. While the preseason games are nice, preseason games are good. You could gamble on them. You could watch. There's some starters playing here this weekend. But in the meantime, like on these lowly Thursday nights when it was just high school football or this. Pretty good high school game, though. Great high school game down in Georgia. Great idea. Buford, Georgia. I know a couple of Buford dogs down there.

1:03:05Pat McAfee:They got some beefs down there. That was a good football game. But if you're not into that, this definitely scratched the NFL itch last night. Yeah, it certainly did. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, he was a man that was on the field yesterday with a whistle around his neck teaching the next generation of footballers how to properly tackle. He's a college football national champion. a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. Hawker, can we please talk about what you were doing last night? I love this. I love everything about this photo. I like that there's a house in the background because it looks like it's just a field in a neighborhood.

1:03:38Pat McAfee:I like that there's a bunch of little boys wearing helmets and pads, and I like that the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers is right in the middle of it trying to corral it all. What are we doing here? What are the drills? Is this his first day? How many days into this whole thing are we? We haven't had a game or anything yet. We're a couple weeks into this first-time tackle football for a lot of the guys on the squad. But, yeah, we do a little Oklahoma-type drill where we're blocking, tackling, all that stuff. You've got to teach them the basics. If we can block and tackle, we'll be all right.

1:04:05Pat McAfee:I love the fact that you're giving back to the game to the next generation. That's Ohio right there. That's very Ohio. Okay, let's go to Pittsburgh guy. Aaron Donald in his living room or in his game room with his boy helmet on, pads on, saying, hey, kid goes right for the temple. And Aaron laughs. Mom goes, hey, hey, can't be. And Aaron's just laughing down there. It's like passing the game on to the next generation is such an important piece, I think, of our sport. I think it's a very valuable piece of our sport. And in doing so, I think the game is only going to continue to grow. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man whose family has been a part of the NFL since its inception.

1:04:43Pat McAfee:A man whose family is obviously in the middle of a dynastic run and also in the middle of a documentary series about them and their family that I assume is an anxiety-riddled type of situation beforehand, but also getting a chance to showcase it. Ladies and gentlemen, owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, chairman and CEO of the Chiefs, ladies and gentlemen, Clark Hunt. Yeah! How are you doing, boss? I'm doing great. I'm so glad to be on with you. Hey, thank you for joining us legitimately. We've gotten a chance, obviously, to watch your operation from afar and obviously have been big fans of this dynastic run that you guys have all put together.

1:05:19Pat McAfee:But watching this documentary, learning about your family's contributions to the sport has been very cool. Are you excited for the world? This may be a generation that hasn't really fully learned about what your family has done for the sport and your dad has done for the sport. Are you excited for everybody to kind of learn that story through this documentary? Absolutely. I think one of the best things about the documentary is not only does it chronicle the success that we've had over the last six or seven years, But it also goes back all the way to the founding of the franchise back in 1960 when my dad pulled together the American Football League, got the group of owners, which he nicknamed the Foolish Club, together to take on the NFL and shows the early history of the Chiefs organization as the team moved to Kansas City.

1:06:06And then, of course, transitions into the Andy Reid era.

1:06:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Andy Reid era has certainly been a great one. them showcasing brett veitch and his big brain the story of them talking about patrick mahomes yeah and how they found him go ahead brett veitch was watching the left tackle from texas tech and then was basically after a couple plays said who the hell is this quarterback and then watched every single play from patrick mahomes's texas tech career is unbelievable and then there's a story allegedly that andy reed walks by his office and said what are you doing and brett veitch said i'm watching the next quarterback of the kansas city chiefs allegedly from this one wormhole that Brett Veach went in.

1:06:40Pat McAfee:He knew that this was going to be the guy. You guys trade a future first to move up to 10 to draft Patrick Mahomes. And then obviously it all goes how it goes. Whenever you're making all these decisions and you're putting trust in Brett Veach and Andy Reid to kind of guide the football side of the Chiefs, are you expecting greatness immediately out of everybody? And through those hard times, did you wonder if we're ever going to get back on top? Was there ever any worry? Yeah, absolutely. We'd been through a tough couple of years back in 2011, 2011-2012, actually only won two games in 2012. That was a very tough season, both on the field and off.

1:07:17And we were so blessed to be able to bring Andy Reid to Kansas City. And I knew he was the type of coach that we needed. We needed an experienced coach, somebody who'd been there and done it, somebody with tremendous attention to detail and an ability to really connect with his players and all Andy does is come in and we win nine straight games right you know basically the same team that only won two the year before and that just shows you the immediate impact that he had on our culture and then you mentioned Brett Veach who came with Andy from Philadelphia did a fantastic job in our scouting department obviously the fun story about him scouting and finding Patrick Mahomes and I remember Andy telling me about you know Brett would put a tape on his desk every week and say, you've got to look at this tape.

1:08:05And it was a tape of Patrick, you know, doing amazing things at Texas Tech. And eventually Andy was like, I got it. I got it. You're right. This guy's special. We've got to figure out how to get him.

1:08:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, I guess Andy Reid also said in there when Brett Veach, when they were together in Philadelphia, whenever he said something about a player, he was never wrong. And it's like that eye for talent is something that only a few people have. You seemingly got multiple people in that building, let alone your coordinators are all Hall of Famers as well. Run a good operation over there, boss. you should be incredibly proud of that go ahead aj yeah speaking of andy reed as far as this documentary goes how did you talk him into how do you present this to him to where he would be okay with all the access that you guys uh have given all these cameras and microphones obviously inundated with everything you do yeah well last year uh before the season we were approached by several groups uh that wanted to do a documentary about our pursuit of the third straight lombardi trophy.

1:08:58And at first, you know, we worried about the distraction that would come with that. But we got comfortable as we went through the process, particularly with Words and Pictures, who's the team that pulled this all together and made it happen. We knew the great work that they had done with the Chicago Bulls, which our family's also involved with in putting together the last dance. And so we really thought they were the right group to do it. Andy at first was a little reluctant but we got him comfortable with the fact that it wouldn't be too intrusive it wouldn't distract too much from the mission which was to get back to the super bowl and hopefully win it and at the end of the day you know andy ends up being one of the stars of the show of course which he typically is right that that episode last night you know which really focused on him uh the don't don't judge uh episode i think is really special and it shows what an incredible person and coach Andy is.

1:09:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, we even visit his punt, pass, and kick days, which we've all seen the clips. We've all seen the clips. Andy Reid's always going to be a star. You've got a lot of stars on that team at this point. And I appreciated one of the clips was Patrick Mahomes telling the cameras like, hey, turn them off or whatever. Cameras stay on. Hey, we're still going to get your audio though, bro. And then we'll ask you later if it's okay if we put it out. It's like, I think they did a very good job kind of piecing it all together. Ty has a question for you, Mr. Hunt. Yeah, Mr. Hunt, do you feel pressure to be like a visionary and very forward thinking due to the legacy that your dad has within the NFL and for all he accomplished for the league?

1:10:32Obviously, the league is much different now than when he was kind of building it from the ground up, but do you feel that pressure on a day-to-day basis? You know, my dad was an incredible individual, and you guys have talked a little bit about all that he accomplished in professional sports, which extended beyond American football to soccer and basketball and tennis. I mean, he truly was a visionary and pro sports in this country wouldn't be where it is today without him. You know, when I took over the reins from my dad almost 20 years ago, you know, I thought a lot about, you know, how I needed to lead the Chiefs.

1:11:09And at the end of the day, I decided that I needed to rely on my own strengths and be my own person because there's no duplicating Lamar Hunt. But something that my siblings and I always talk about is we've got to make sure we preserve his legacy because it's so special. So really every decision that we make, we make that decision with a framework of what would Lamar Hunt have done. We think about that and how this continues to shape his amazing legacy in pro sports in the United States. What a brain on that guy.

1:11:42Pat McAfee:And obviously you as well. But this is a showcase of your dad there early in this documentary. When we were at the Hall of Fame, I'm telling you, we're i mean a little tuned up i think we had a couple drinks yeah we had a couple drinks and they were giving us a tour of the place and we went down the vault and we were talking to ted oh bruce can you help me what's his name bruce john at the at the hall of fame john at the hall of fame okay jake led us to john we apologize john though like historian like you guys have for the chiefs bob moore i think i saw uh the guy that was showcasing you guys we go into the hall of fame vote pulls out the letter the actual letter that your dad sent i believe and uh that's what they say at least if you have it in yours i mean there's conflicting reports but the way the hall of fame said was the actual letter and we were reading it and it's like you could just kind of feel the type of person your dad was as a visionary he said the we need something like the gray cup or like the stanley cup we i've jokingly called it the super bowl but we can obviously revisit that like that was like a throwaway at like number five at the bottom of the the page and then they started showcasing his other things back whenever i think it was 19 oh something uh 1906 19 guys died playing football so then they had to go five by five on like we did a full history of the game there with john and your dad was ever present through the entirety of it and then this documentary kind of shows up here two weeks later we just want to let you know we didn't know for a long time and we're football people it's been an honor to learn about your dad being a beast man he he was an absolute beast i think he had to be and whenever you guys are working with him while doing this and you have to let's say nowadays and you say what would lamar hunt lamar hunt do you think this documentary he would have loved is there anything that you have to do in a modern age that you think like maybe he wouldn't have liked doing this or he would have loved this particular thing that we're kind of doing right now do you ever have those types of moments with your dad?

1:13:36Yeah, and thinking about the documentary, I think he would love it because at the end of the day, he believes the game is all about the fans. And this documentary gives our fans a real behind-the-scenes look, not only at everything that took place at our practice facility and at games to get back to the Super Bowl, but it also tells a lot about the personal lives of some of the key figures on the team, including Travis and Patrick and Chris Jones and Andy Reid, really shows what goes into it from an emotional standpoint and the tremendous character that those individuals have. So I think he would absolutely love it because at the end of the day, he was about making the fan experience as good as it possibly could be.

1:14:21Pat McAfee:I love that. I love to hear it. On that note, Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Mr. Hunt, I have a question about the stars on your team. Obviously, Patrick is a ginormous star in the NFL world and doing quarterback and stuff like that. But we just saw it this week with Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast. They broke every single record in the world. Obviously, Taylor, come into your games and stuff like that. But Travis being as big as a star now as he is, I assume that you guys don't hate this and this is all good for business? Yeah, well, first of all, let me just say how happy we are for their relationship.

1:14:56They're an amazing couple. and watching the two of them together is really special. And that podcast, seeing them side by side, talking about the relationship was absolutely amazing. It's been a whirlwind, I would say, for the organization over the last two years, since Taylor literally stepped into our lives. She's done an amazing job unintentionally of increasing our female fan base. We used to be about a 50-50 ratio, male to female fan base, and now 57 % of our fans are female, which I think is probably the highest in the National Football League. So there's absolutely been a Taylor Swift effect.

1:15:37And I just should say that my daughters couldn't be happier that we have her as part of the Chiefs kingdom now.

1:15:44Pat McAfee:Yeah, they're not the only ones, brother. I mean, it is great for the entire sport, we think. We are big football people, so we love it that the biggest star on earth is involved. I couldn't even imagine being actually the owner of the team. We love it too, brother. We certainly love it as well. Securing the stadium and getting her in there, and obviously the story goes, we learned on the New Heights podcast, 1.3 million concurrence. That's at that time, let alone they put out the numbers afterwards. We're talking records all over the place. She just walked in the front door, I guess, of Arrowhead the first time she went there.

1:16:18Pat McAfee:Then obviously it's become an entire thing. We've heard about the three-floor suite. potentially in the stadium uh it's kind of like a rumor a lore about it but have you guys had to change anything because the biggest star on earth is coming in there and obviously once it's known that she's coming it becomes an even bigger kind of chaotic shitshow almost outside of that thing yeah it's been a little challenge for our security folks they've done a great job both at home games and on the road she's attended a number of away games as well and they do a great job of getting her safely into the stadium.

1:16:52I think the most amazing thing about that first game, which caught us all by surprise, was the fact that she literally walked in the front door. We had offered to get her some special security, and she said, no, I want to be just like a typical fan. I'm coming straight in the front door.

1:17:10Pat McAfee:She's a dog, dude. She's a dog. We all need to understand that at this point. She is an absolute dog. She's a great football person. We are very thankful she's in the football world. Obviously, you are as well. We're going to have to do that. Clark, we appreciate you, man. What's life like right now for the preseason for you? What do you have cooking on a day-to-day during these days? Yeah, well, I'm headed to Seattle later today. We play the Seahawks tonight. And obviously, the focus this time of year is evaluating your young players. And I think Brett Veach has done it again. We have an amazing draft class.

1:17:45They looked great last week. I can't wait to see them play tonight. I think they'll play a big part in our success this year. Hell yeah. Connor has a question for you, boss. Yeah, Mr. Hunt, speaking of the draft, you guys kind of hosted in 2023, and that was one of the first big, massive draft nights. You know, Nashville comes to mind, and even Green Bay this past season, it feels like the draft has become a massive, you know, fan experience in the offseason. Lamar Hunt would love. Lamar Hunt would love it, yeah. Yeah, he would. Yep, yep. Big nod to the head, yeah. How was that experience kind of hosting the draft in your own city?

1:18:20And then also, how much better is it for you as an owner now that you aren't picking at the top of every draft and you can hang out and wait till the end of it? Yeah, well, of course, you know, picking at the end of the round makes it tough. But Brett and his staff are up to the challenge every year. And it seems like, you know, they find some real gems and hopefully did it again this year with Josh Simmons. But going back to hosting the draft in Kansas City, what an amazing opportunity that was to showcase Kansas City. And I thought Kansas City did a fantastic job. It was an amazing event, 300 ,000 people attending.

1:19:00It was just a lot of fun all the way around. I think that's one of the best decisions that the NFL has made in recent years is moving the draft around to different cities and letting them have that opportunity because there are passionate fan bases across the U.S.

1:19:15Pat McAfee:Especially in these cities that probably won't get a Super Bowl, you know, because weather restrictions and it all. So you have the draft that is a celebration of football. It's still a festival. It's multiple days. Obviously, it's not Super Bowl, but it is awesome. And it's all because Radio City Music Hall said, we don't got time for you. Sorry, NFL. The Rockettes got to do a show. And then it's become one of the biggest nights of the offseason for us. Combine, first couple days. Draft, the only thing that carries us in the offseason. So if you guys want to think of more super-duper things in the offseason, we would be very grateful.

1:19:45Pat McAfee:Just know that whenever you guys do that, the people that talk every single day would love everything about that. Last question here from AJ. Go ahead, boss. Yeah, Mr. Hunt, I was curious how competitive you may be with the other owners. I think if you guys get together at the owners meeting, maybe other events where you guys are together, and we know everybody wants to win. We know that. You've been in a great spot here for a while now, But are you guys competitive? Do you guys talk? Do you joke around back and forth about your franchise and how it may be doing? Yeah, I think everybody who's involved with the NFL is incredibly competitive.

1:20:16You know, my dad used to say this is a really unusual business because six days a week, you're trying to work together to make the NFL better. And then on Sundays, you want to punch your best friends. And that's absolutely how it is. Everybody cares a lot about winning. I think that's something that our fan base understands. And, you know, I'm lucky to have, you know, so many great partners in the NFL. But certainly on Sundays, I want to come out on top.

1:20:46Pat McAfee:Hey, let's talk about a couple of those partners that you might be able to either gain knowledge from or give knowledge to. Here in Indianapolis, obviously, three daughters of Jim are taking over the team. Second generation, now third generation ownership in the family. Obviously, you would understand a situation like this, even though it happened to you, I think, at a little bit older age than like Kalen or Carly or Casey. Do they reach out? Do you guys reach out to the daughters or the next set of ownership whenever teams have a situation arise, like the one we have right now in Indianapolis?

1:21:17Yeah, I think that's one of the great things about the NFL ownership group is how collaborative we are. I remember when I took over for my dad that John Mayer reached out to me. and said, hey, if you want to bounce any ideas off me, if you've got some questions that you need answered, I'd love to talk to you about it. So it is a group that works really well together. Obviously, when you have these transitions, they're very difficult. There's a lot of responsibility. Even though I got to work with my dad for many years before he passed away, the first time that that spotlight is on you, it is really, really challenging.

1:21:55And they're definitely in our case were some some hard days uh i made some mistakes and uh hopefully learn from those mistakes and uh certainly have a lot of good resources to balance ideas off yeah where's

1:22:08Pat McAfee:the manual you know when he sits down right is it uh is it in this drawer and then on the flip side of that did you reach out or have you reach out to craft about because obviously now post their dynasty run 20 plus years absurd insane none of us really know you guys are obviously going to try to attain that and uh you know supersede that and everything but now we've learned that there's been a lot of that he had to deal with while they were doing their dynasty as an ownership as an owner have you reached out and chit-chat about that or do you think you have a different kind of culture than what was happening in new england and it's not really the same operation yeah well we're very close to the craft family my dad and robert were very good friends and i consider jonathan craft a close friend as well.

1:22:55We've not only been involved in the NFL together, but we've been in Major League Soccer since the start back in 1996. So we get to spend a lot of time with him. When we started going to the Super Bowl, I did reach out to Jonathan, you know, just to ask his perspective because they'd been to so many games and, you know, what were the do's and don'ts and, you know, how did you need to maximize the opportunity and make sure that the team remain focused on the task at hand. So they were a tremendous resource to me. And, you know, I feel very blessed that we've been able to have this dynastic run, you know, following the amazing success that they had for over a decade.

1:23:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, they were. Yeah, yeah, true, too. They were a long time. I was in the NFL during a portion of it. I was in high school during a portion of it. And I was it was a long, long time off topic. Nick, your family, I think soccer, obviously you talked about, you know, Major League Soccer, NASL, everything in America. I think your boy plays. I'm not 100 % sure, but I think I've seen he plays down at SMU, I think, which is your college. Are we ever going to win this thing? Do you think our teams are going to get you? What do you think? I have faith. I like Ponch, the head coach of the U.S. men's national team.

1:24:10Pat McAfee:You think we have a chance? Yeah, well, first of all, getting to host the tournament back in the U.S. is going to be tremendous for the sport. And typically, the host countries do very well in the World Cup. In fact, you can go back to 1994 when the U.S. hosted the tournament, and we made it further in that tournament than we had made it in many, many years. So I would expect that we'll get a boost from hosting the tournament. I do think we're doing a much better job developing players. And at the end of the day, that's really what you have to do. We've got to have world-class players if we want to one day aspire to win the World Cup.

1:24:49I would hope that we're going to advance deep in the Cup. I don't know that we'll win in 26, but I certainly expect it in the coming years. We're going to win in 26.

1:24:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think so. Yeah, we're going to win in 26. We're going to be loud, too, over here. We are going to be very loud and obnoxious about it. Just know that. I know you can't, but just know that we will be the obnoxious Americans through that entire World Cup run, and we are expecting a title. Yes. It's coming home. It is certainly coming home. Tony Miola, Kobe Jones, Alexi Lawless, and the boys back there. Oh! Come on. 1994, he wasn't around. Todd Ramos, but yes, Jeff Cameron would have fit in with that group. Yeah, he would have. For sure. Clark, safe travels out to Seattle. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.

1:25:27Pat McAfee:Congrats on everything, by the way. Yeah, thank you very much. Great to be on. Fun to get to talk about the kingdom. We couldn't be more pleased about it as an organization. All right. Hey, did you know our show existed before they told you to come on this show? I'd heard rumors about it. Sweet. Absolutely. Hey, we appreciate you taking the time. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Clark Connors. Yay, Mr. Holt!

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1:26:43Pat McAfee:I always wonder like what was the level of surprise whenever they show up and then it starts going, how it's going. What is this? This is not what I expect. Get him off there. Get him off there. I assume full-time. Happened with Riley Green. Yeah, Riley Green. Is this what this is? He was great. That dude's got a cannon, bro. Cannon, AJ. And he's dunking. He's one-foot dunking, too. That's amazing. So he did, like, before the show, before we recorded, he was awesome. I'm telling you. One of the best guests we've just had in the excluding interview, just hanging out, he's one of the top three for sure.

1:27:17Pat McAfee:I think so, yeah. Just came and sat down and just immediately right into the fire. I mean, no questions asked. With his accent in his own way, you know, in a very southern country fuck way. You know, it was spectacular. And he walked in and we saw a silhouette first sideways. And he had that hat. And then his mustache was just like so. Yeah. It was like a. It was. Billowee. It was. Yeah. And it just. He had like that shit. How you doing, Riley? It was like this guy. Holy hell. shirt tucked in immediately upon enter i mean you're talking just absolute gentleman was doing construction yeah we appreciate him uh okay let's talk about the news that broke today obviously i'm excited to get your take and i would like you to not only speak for yourself okay i'd like you to speak for a legion of people that you represented as the president of ohio for a couple years ohio state fans reaction to the michigan punishments that have been kind of announced today It's basically money.

1:28:17Pat McAfee:It's going to end up being like$25,$30 million all in. If they end up playing, they won't be able to receive any college football playoff funds. They got fined like$7-point-something million on top of that. Shrone Moore suspended in 2026. There's a$50 ,000 fine to the football team as well. I think that they're taking away one chamber, one hyperbaric chamber. $50 ,000. I think they're keeping a quarter of it, though, because I think it is like$75 ,000. I think they're keeping 33 % of the hyperbaric chamber. I think it was$75 ,000. So they took$50 ,000 of the hyperbaric chamber out. So I don't know how they're going to be able to close the end, but there is still a little bit.

1:28:59Pat McAfee:Seemingly, if I'm a Michigan fan, very excited that this is over. Now, as somebody who respects the hell and appreciates college football as a whole, had no idea we were still in the middle of this. You know, like when the tweet came out that the NCAA will be making its final ruling for a ruling on Friday. I thought to myself, this can't still be Connor Stallions. It is. That'll carry all the way into 2026 with more suspension. How do you think the people of Ohio are feeling? I'm sure they're very reasonable about it all. Yeah, I mean, I can't exactly speak for the people of Ohio. I'm sure there's a strong feeling.

1:29:33Yes, you can. I can speak for myself, I guess. I think there's definitely people that are fans of Ohio State that expected something like this, especially when we had Pete come on yesterday, and Pete basically told us it's not going to be some gigantic situation where there's a postseason bowl ban or anything like this. I'm personally torn on it because I don't think you should. I don't want the players there now to get punished. I don't think you should punish players that are there now for something that happened before they even got to school. I think that's stupid. It rips those dudes off.

1:30:04And the head coach is gone already coaching the NFL. Ten-year show class might as well be a hundred-year show class. Who cares? That doesn't matter. We know that, right? It's four years and ten.

1:30:14Pat McAfee:And it didn't run concurrently. Those are stacked on top of each other. But, yes, I think as you read through it all, in Connor Stallion, eight years I think he has a show cause. But if you read Nicole Auerbach's tweet about Jim Harbaugh, everybody's assuming that Connor Stallion is just kind of banned. It's like, no, they just have to make a pitch for why he's allowed to coach there. And they just got to showcase that they have certain things in place that will make sure he doesn't cheat again or something like that. That's basically how it was worded. and you know that's just kind of i think connor stallion just probably pretty excited about everything that's tired think someone hires him yeah from what we learned from watching that doc it's like i don't know how he doesn't have a job in the nfl already just doing data shit you know just like yeah he's a data analytics guy he went he was obsessed with it he was a hoorah with this entire thing we're talking about sleeping on the side of the road in a car in between you know like this dude was committed to the game and now did he go too far everybody in football was like yes if he was recording and going too far.

1:31:15Pat McAfee:But everybody in football was also like, Man, why did we hire that guy? You should have done that. It's just like up in New England with everything that was getting caught. Spygate, everybody still kind of holds over Belichick. Not everybody, but there's some people that still hold that over. But every NFL player and coach was just like, Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's not dig too deep into this thing. Obviously can't do it. He got punished. Let's not start turning over stones in everybody else's backyard. are let's not let's just keep it moving and uh i feel like this kind of fell into that same thing and inevitable like at the beginning it was like this is scumbaggery and i think as we continue to learn as it continue to go it's like all right the 10-year thing though to hardballs why yeah are they trying to guess how long his career is going to be with the chargers if this guy thinks he's going to come back after a 10-year career in the nfl he's got another thing coming he'll be suspended for a year allegedly is what nicole auerbach reported if he was to come back during this 14-year show cause suspension that he's having going on.

1:32:14Pat McAfee:But, yeah, I think if you're a Michigan fan, you're A-OK moving forward here. They paid Bryce Underwood, what,$16 million? Yeah. That kid's going to be there for three years. For a year. Yeah. So, and they just picked up, what's his name, the guy that owns Lanai? Larry Ellison. Yeah, Larry Ellison is now a booster of a school that he never went to because he's second or third wealthiest person or fourth wealthiest person in the world. He's the one that paid for the Bryce Underwood thing, just on, yeah, you got how much we need? He actually wired it from the island of Hawaii that he owns in Lanai up to his own satellite and then dropped it directly into Bryce Underwood's bank account that he probably owns too somehow.

1:32:53Pat McAfee:It's like they're not worried about money up there in Michigan. The NCAA should have been like$150 million, and we're going to get a renovation of the office. Yeah. We're going to use Michigan to do it. And they would have still acted the same exact way. It's like, yeah, we move along here. Where'd that money go? I don't know. It's a good question. I don't know. The NCAA office. It's a lot. Yeah,$27 million. Yeah, that's a lot of money. Also, Notre Dame. How much money do they make for college football playoff versus everybody else? Oh, yeah. Smart. Why would they ever join a conference? Bingo.

1:33:22Why?

1:33:23Pat McAfee:Well, why wouldn't anybody else be trying to get out of a conference? Exactly. Yeah. You know, like. It's true. Wow. If you're a big brand. Who was it? Florida State? Put it between 36 other sports or what? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, for instance, let's say Ohio State. Petiti's not going to like this, and we like Petiti, and we like the Big Ten, and we like Ohio State. You can throw Michigan in there too, but Ohio State, let's just talk Ohio State. Ohio State, Columbus, highest rated on everything. College game day, Columbus, the rating is insane. Ohio State games are playing anybody, the rating is insane.

1:33:54Pat McAfee:Why is Ohio State playing in the biggest game of the week for Fox, who just paid billions of dollars for the Big Ten deal, literally at noon every single day? Why do the people of Ohio State hate the situation that the primetime game on their network is at noon instead of at night. It's because Ohio State moves the needle no matter what. If Ohio State was to be an independent operation, seamless. Yeah. It would be an absolute seamless operation. Now, Petita doesn't want to hear that. I understand that. And I assume people at Ohio State don't want to hear that either. But that's like a very real thing.

1:34:23Pat McAfee:There's probably, what, like four schools that could do it, five schools that could do it, and just kind of have their own fans will support us until we go. No matter what. Texas has the opportunity to do that. They did it kind of. Yeah. Longhorn Network. Yeah. Notre Dame obviously able to do it. They are currently doing it. But it's not like everybody could do that. But if you had the capability and had the platform and the base and knew that your fans were going to support wherever you want and TV deals were going to be ready for you as soon as you went there, it's like why wouldn't you want to take the full allotment of a college football playoff bonus as opposed to having to split it with literally 18 different people?

1:34:58Pat McAfee:That's an interesting little thing. Shout out to Notre Dame. Yeah. Like literally from the jump having this. But if you're those other schools that could do this, you've got to be at least snooping around a little bit on how this will be possible. It probably won't ever happen because that's kind of like the benefit for a lot of the other teams in the Big Ten. But it will be interesting if in like four years, let's say, like the only teams from the Big Ten that have made the college football playoff are Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. And Oregon, yeah, I forget they're in the Big Ten. Like they might go back and be like, hey, we're done doing this.

1:35:28Like everyone gets an equal distribution of like we're the only teams that are making to the playoffs. So, like, we're not just going to let our continued success kind of let all these other schools eat. Like, you wonder, I mean, obviously there are bylaws in place that probably make that impossible to happen. But it is interesting because if you just continually have those teams kind of set in the bar in a conference and you could go to the other conferences, too, it's the same deal. It's like, hey, why are we the ones who are having all the success and we're kind of getting punished by it because we have to give, you know, the Northwesterns of the world$2.5 million because we make the playoff.

1:36:02Pat McAfee:Pete Bavacqua and Marcus Freeman up there at Notre Dame are like, how much money are you guys getting for this game? Two and a half. You idiot. Yeah, that's nice. 20 of them. For what? What you guys just did. Why would they ever? When people try to get them to join a conference, why would they ever? Well, especially if Marcus Freeman is going to continue to lead the boys. That's a huge payday. Obviously, March Madness and everything is big money for universities as well. But if you're Notre Dame and your football team can get to the college football playoff, We're going to have new buildings up there on a very regular basis.

1:36:36Pat McAfee:And not that that campus isn't already beautiful, which it is, but it's like they got it figured out up there. And good for them. All right, let's move along. Let's go to the NFL. There's preseason action happening. There's some notables playing, H. We got some big names, prime time. Caleb Williams will make his debut under the Ben Johnson offense. And allegedly, you know, Zito found a tweet from somewhere deep in the annals of the internet. Caleb Williams having a good day today against the Buffalo Bills. You got Herbert playing. Obviously, Harbaugh's going to have the boys spinning a little bit.

1:37:04Pat McAfee:Geno Smith. Bruce Purdy. Oh, Bruce. Oh, hold on. Hold on. He should think about that. Bruce Purdy. Is that his dad's name? I'm sure there's a Bruce in Purdy family. His grandpappy. He's got to be. Granddaddy. Granddaddy Bruce. Grandpappy. Granddaddy. Brock Purdy playing. Cam Ward. Anthony Richardson. Danny Dimes continue their quarterback battle. Sam Darnold. How you doing, Seattle Seahawks? Learn something about gingers from Marshawn Lincoln. I didn't know that. That was sweet. I got a couple gingers in the fam. I guess they got the green light from what I've been told. I'm excited for them to try that going forward.

1:37:40Pat McAfee:Shout out to Marshawn Lynch. And then obviously Joe Milton can throw to core mom. We'll see if he does that. Dylan Gabriel getting some time because Shador Sanders, her is oblique. He'll be out. So that week one, awesome play out of Shador will carry into at least week three of the preseason as he sits out in this oblique. Great play, by the way. Not saying we're happy he's hurt, But for the Shador Sanders conversation, let's see what Dylan Gabriel does. Oh, yeah. And if he doesn't, it's going to get a lot. We've seen DeJuan Jones before. And we've seen Dylan Gabriel. You keep attacking this guy for his height.

1:38:15I'm not attacking him. I just still think it's crazy that what Shador did in the first preseason game and what Dylan Gabriel is, that one of them was picked in the fifth round and one was picked in the third round.

1:38:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's still pretty crazy to all of us. Remember, Dylan Gabriel, though, is an absolute dog in college ball and can spin it. He's better than Brock Osweiler. He has a little Kellen Morey thought whenever I see him, not just because he's a lefty, but the style of play. Maybe the timing of a Stefanski offense will be great for Dylan Gabriel. And he's been having to deal with finding throwing lanes his whole life. Now, it's a little different with, you know, the Giants of the NFL. But we shall see how that goes. It's going to get loud for Dylan, whatever happens here. I hope he does very well.

1:38:53Pat McAfee:I heard Joe Flacco, too, was spinning it. Nobody wants to talk about it. I heard Flacco's still out there doing what Joe Flacco. I'm going to make a guess here. Joe Flacco's going to start week one. Okay, and then week what is another quarterback playing? Next season. Joe Flacco's running the gamut. He's back with Stefanski. The last time he played with Stefanski, he came from the couch to the playoffs with the Cleveland Browns. If Joe stays healthy, he's going to be starting all year. It's going to be tough to bench Flacco when they're 10-0 after 10 weeks. Which is definitely possible with Joe Flacco.

1:39:22Everybody will laugh about that. No, it's – Jerry Judy's going to have 1 ,500 yards and 10 touchdowns.

1:39:27Pat McAfee:Did you see Jerry Judy's trying out today? Oh, yeah. Oh, Jerry Judy's midseason four, Mage. I know you like to see that. I love him. I am curious to see what Dylan Gabriel does. We watch him in person. That dude can play. We know that. You're right. If he comes out there and lights it up, it's going to be – it's going to be some fun talking points up in Cleveland. Didn't play great against Ohio State. Jackson Dart, and you just wanted to bring that game up that you doing. Didn't play great at all. Yeah, in that particular game, but he's on that game. First time he did. First time he played him, he did.

1:39:55True.

1:39:56Pat McAfee:Jackson Dart's playing. They say he's a guy for the future. They say Russell Wilson, once again, probably started there. Jackson Dart, when does that happen? When's the New York Giants bye week? Bruce, when's your guys' bye week for the New York Giants? He's looking. Oh. I'd assume. He doesn't know. Week 14. Yeah, late. Oh, that's very late. That's crazy. That's very late. That would have seemingly been the transition time if you had it. Week 14 is way too late. We'll see how that goes. And then you got Rattler and Shuck playing ball a little bit. AJ, out of all that, I think Caleb Williams is obviously all eyes on.

1:40:29Pat McAfee:That whole Ben Johnson situation, and can't wait to see what happens in Indianapolis. I didn't like the swag who laughed in my face whenever I said it. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was messed up. He was hitting his head. Like, he was literally. It was the funniest thing he's ever heard. Crying laughing. I still think there's a chance somebody was underneath his feet. Yeah. Tickling his feet. I can see that. Maybe his son. Yeah, man. I don't think his son – I think his son was probably in the gym or something. Maybe he had like a little robot down there. He was just like, hey, tickle my feet.

1:40:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, duster. Tickle me, robot. Yeah, he had a huge one. So let's not talk about the Anthony Richardson-Daney-Dime situation, which will obviously be must-watch. But Caleb Williams operating Ben Johnson's offense is all anybody's going to talk about. So we are actually going to judge him in the huddle when he's getting a snap-off on the play clock. Play of games, all that. Don't you want to see like, hey, do they break the huddle with three seconds on the clock? Just the full operation is what I want to see. I'm sure the coaches want to see that too. Hey, let's look professional tonight. Let's look like we know what we're doing.

1:41:25Pat McAfee:I do wonder if they didn't have enough faith last week in it. And they're like, we're not putting anybody out there. Who cares? It's first week of preseason. Because the conversation was, if the offensive line's not in, why are they going to have Caleb in? It's like, well, maybe the reason why you chose not to have the offensive line is because maybe we're not all on the same page. Maybe now is not the time. And they've got to learn a brand new offense that has a lot in it. I mean, we've seen the Detroit Lions over the years. there's a lot of shit in that offense. I assume there's a foundation.

1:41:50Pat McAfee:I assume there's like basics of it. And then there's only like 10 million different things that can come off of it. And learning all of those different things, you know, if you're the tight end, you got to learn all the tight end shit. If you're X, you got to learn. If you are these positions, you only got to learn your shit. Caleb has to learn everybody's multitude of things that they could do. So maybe it's just taking a little bit. I would not blame him if that was the case, especially from what we've heard of Ben Johnson's offense. and hopefully he'll be able to light it up in that particular offense that has had a lot of success over the last four years in Detroit.

1:42:22Yeah, I mean, obviously he's not thinking about this, but Caleb's one of those guys where no matter what he does, there will be no middle ground in terms of the way it's discussed following the game. If he plays really well, people are going to be like, see, this is what we were talking about, Ben Johnson. This guy could be one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. If he doesn't play well, it's going to be, hey, this guy sucks. I don't think there's going to be any like, oh, he played pretty well. He played okay. I don't think we're going to get any of that.

1:42:48Pat McAfee:Are you a little bit worried in the NFC North? Uh-oh. Me? Because I heard that the Colts and Packers joint practices. Have you heard? I heard that the Packers defense was pretty dominating, and I'm not worried about the Colts, Steve, because Jordan loved them practice. So, you know, it's kind of a win-win for me. No, we're playing low-scoring football. We're not worried about that. I did read that defense has dominated the day, but that was actually a very good kind of reminder for me yesterday. I was like, you look at the Colts beat reporters, and Colts are having the best goddamn day they've had so far.

1:43:20Packers guys are saying the same thing. So it's kind of like, okay, what are we doing? This shit doesn't matter.

1:43:25Pat McAfee:I read a tweet. Colts are awesome. Boom. Then I scrolled a little bit. Packers have dominated the Colts. Yeah. I'm like, all right, well, let's mute this account. I didn't see that. I don't need to hear that. I don't need to hear that. Let's go ahead and move on. That's preseason, baby. That's training camp. That's these joint practices. There's a lot of joint practices that obviously have been happening and are leading up to this particular weekend. And there's also a canceled one. I believe the Ravens and commanders have canceled their joint practice due to a schedule and how the team feels.

1:43:53Pat McAfee:They said, we'll just get ready for the big game. What's that? Why is your face like that? I don't know if we have it. I'm assuming we don't. I'm not sure if Randy Orton has the capability to kind of hop on the football field and put pads on, but someone basically got RKO'd yesterday. I don't know if you saw it. I don't think you did. There's a massive scrum. Between the Ravens and the Commanders at their joint practice. Oh, next time we're not done. Exactly. One of the guys that the scrum started with, it's almost over. It's just offense and defense. Both teams didn't run on. Someone from the Ravens ran over and grabbed this guy by the back of his shoulder pads and slammed him down.

1:44:36Where, like a bulldog? No, no. Like he was looking this way. Guy comes from this way. This dude doesn't see him. grabs the back of his jersey and yanks him down. To his back or to his face? To his back. Oh, so it's like a break? Exactly. Just like it. Spine buster? It was awesome. I don't know if you can find it. Sounds like. Is it a back bump? Yeah, it was a back bump by.

1:44:59Pat McAfee:Zito said he found one from two years ago. Oh, nice. Let me see it. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Was this two years ago? It was a quote tweet. No, the tweet I saw was a quote tweet from. it was a quote tweet from something. Yeah, because that's Emmanuel Forbes right there. Yeah, but we don't know if this ends with you, the back bump you're talking about. Oh, there it is. Okay. Okay, there you go. So they have canceled their joint practices. They were never having any this year. They decided because of a delay of a game happening one day later for the commanders, I believe the Ravens put out a statement saying, we're trying to make sure we meet each other.

1:45:39And someone quote tweeted with that video. That's what happened two years ago.

1:45:42Pat McAfee:We know why. Yeah, the internet's filled with that. And by the way, that is out there. It's good internet, yeah. That's out there at any moment. That potential situation, getting got for sure. But also, joint practices. I heard Max Crosby talking on his podcast. He said, I have 100 % fight rate at joint practices. 100%. They're practicing with the Niners, I believe. Raiders and Niners are joint practicing. And he was just openly talking about like, yeah, because I know how this is going to go. and it's just like a guarantee that there's a fight. We've talked about this numerous times. I don't know how you don't.

1:46:14Pat McAfee:If your teams don't fight, it's almost a bad thing at this point. Yeah, almost every play. If they don't, it's like you guys are your brother-in-law on each other and you're going too easy because there's always, especially think about all the drills. You do one-on-one pass rush, tackles and ends and outside rushes. You also sometimes do one-on-one pass rush with like inside backers and running backs that always gets heated. And then let alone you're going 11-on-11 usually to finish those practices. guys are getting up dancing in dudes faces yeah you're gonna we're gonna fight yeah and speaking of brother-in-law and each other uh jeff schwartz actually found a clip of the browns and eagles lane johnson miles garrett this is like a perfect rep both of them won both of them won neither got embarrassed nobody got hurt let's move on all right take the helmet off we did our rep now let everybody else do it that's legit aj between those two right there absolutely i saw when i saw this happen like that's so perfect i read the tweet and then i watched the clip like oh yeah he exists He explained that exactly how I would think.

1:47:09But it's true. Two unbelievable professionals going to the Hall of Fame, taking a rep at the end of training camp.

1:47:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, and they also – I don't think anything needed to be said either. They both understood what was going on here. Yeah, there was no, hey, we're doing this, we're doing this. Miles wanted to work on a get-off, I assume, which he did. Lane probably wanted to work on a get-off as well. You want to work a move or two? Sweet. I'll go ahead and brush it down a little bit. We both win. There's a moment where Miles could have got a sack. Lane can say, I got a thing. Helmets off, boys. Twos and threes. Good luck the rest of the day. That is a perfectly executed Hall of Fame practice rep one-on-one. And then I saw, I believe, the day after his surgery, Landon Dickerson walked out on the practice field with a bunch of beers.

1:47:51Yeah, a bunch of motor lights.

1:47:51Pat McAfee:There was like 10 of them. Cleveland Browns online. Just, hey, boys, good practice out there today. Yeah, and I love that. That's awesome. If Landon's bringing out beers, okay, he feels pretty good about where his knees are. Yeah. Yes. You know, he's feeling pretty good about where he's at. Good for him. Good for the Eagles. and I love that this still exists in 2025, AJ. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah, we don't see it too much. It's a lost art thing of the past, I think. The beers in the locker room or on the field, like it doesn't happen a whole lot, but we're getting back to it. We're getting back to some of those old school football things like when we turned on, you know, when you see the guys in the 70s smoking cigs and stuff.

1:48:22Pat McAfee:I don't think it'll quite get there, but you never know. In the kingdom, you're talking about there's a lot of those types of highlights from back in the day. AJ, I'm telling you, two hours of shit is out right now. I wasn't able to watch the entirety of it because, you know, that's a lot of time. in one night. It was literally released yesterday, last night. I can't wait to watch it. I literally cannot wait to dive into it. If you're an NFL fan, I think this is a doc. Not just obviously Trav and Patrick. Chris Jones. Who's always so jovial, but he's giving some real speeches in there. Chris Jones giving some real speeches in there.

1:48:56Pat McAfee:So is Patrick. So is Travis. It's like a completely different light than what you see in them. It's like, oh yeah, these guys are still animals. We forgot that these dudes are still absolute beasts. These dudes are competitive freaks. And whenever they're talking to the team, it's vastly different than whenever they're talking to media or they're having a couple curious lights out on a golf course. Like, it is – you get to see the reason why they are who they are. I think it's very well done here early. Now, can it get ruined? Sure. Absolutely. Sure, certainly can. But I think they had a hot start from what I saw.

1:49:24Like, the first episode, you really learn Brett Feach is one of the smartest guys in the entire NFL when it comes to just evaluating players. And then the second episode, Mr. Hunt kind of mentioned, it's all Andy Reid. It's like Andy Reid's entire story. It's really cool. Bless you, Tony.

1:49:38Pat McAfee:We have huge news out of the college football world. Oh, no. Hawaii has approved plans for a new stadium. Yeah. Have you heard about this? Uh-huh. Front Office Sports has reported Hawaii has approved plans to build a new Aloha Stadium. The state will contribute$400 million for the new 22 ,500-seat home of the Rainbow Warriors football, set to be completed in 2029. Every year, I'm hoping they get really good, and there's a game day. Oh, sure. Every year. There's a chance. I'm like, come on now. Let's go. I've been out there, obviously, a lot. I've been in Hawaii a lot. I run into a lot of Hawaii fans out there.

1:50:18Pat McAfee:I think I know a couple of the assistant coaches. I think I've run into them at different places out there. That place is my favorite island. And if we could just so happen to accidentally have to do a couple days out there of this show leading up to a potential Saturday show out there, it's like, it's okay. That'd be okay. So I'm happy to get a new stadium. I don't know how they'll ever be successful. I know they were. Cole with Cole Brennan. That traveling is insane. And if they're ever able to get good, I'll be happy and pumped for the entire island, but I'm pulling for them. I mean, we'll see.

1:50:53You would think, and again, it's so far out there, and a lot of kids probably don't want to go out there and be that far away from their families, but they could be the transfer portal capital of the United States. You play decent or whatever, and you're in some cold weather, bad area, not really playing in the Big Ten or something. It's like, you know what? I'm going to go to Hawaii, and let's turn this thing around. I'm going to enjoy my last two years of college. I'm going to be playing in a beautiful stadium, it looks like.

1:51:17Pat McAfee:I think they need a mainland base. So I think they need to do all their home games straight and then all their away games straight. Because it's just like, that's at least six hours. At least six hours everywhere. That's Europe from the eastern part of the year. That is a long flight. So if they were able to figure out the league, they should treat themselves as a European NFL team. Yeah. They should have a base. They should have class options there. Like, hey, we'll stay on it. We got a little campus here. I don't know how you figured that all out. But I think that's the only way to do it because of how much the travel is, plus school, plus football.

1:51:53Pat McAfee:It's a lot of things going on, but I'm pulling for it. The NFL should try it. The NFL should legitimately sponsor that type of idea just to test to see if it would work for the London teams that we've talked about. I like that. Yeah, because then – We need Hawaii to have a home game, though, if we're going to go out there. We don't need it to be one of their – Unfortunately, they'll say they can't do it because of school and stuff like that. No, but everything's – Everything's online. Like a satellite campus, yeah. Yeah, you just set up a little – I don't think you have to go to class anyway. I think you can choose to take pretty much everything online.

1:52:23Oh, I'm sorry.

1:52:24Pat McAfee:AJ, West Virginia, I just want to let you know. Student athletes. You're a student human athlete. I hope they do. I feel like kids don't get the full college experience if you don't have to actually go on campus at least a couple times a week. I should have tried that when I was in school. You went on for fun. You went on to campus for fun. I should have tried classes. You went to a couple classes. I did. I enjoyed some classes. Rich Rod didn't check your classes? I thought for sure Rich Rod would check. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, they did. They all did, yeah. Yeah, and then we had to negotiate. You know, everything's a negotiation.

1:52:55Pat McAfee:Everything is a negotiation, you know? I can't do it. I don't know what you want to do. I'm not a good morning person also. This is the easiest class of all time. There's no reason I should be sitting in this thing. Just keep making them kicks, and we'll figure it out. I will be eligible. I made all Big East the first. So when I negotiated the thing, I made the all Big East academic team that semester. So I feel like it, you know. Stamp of approval. Yeah, so then I got myself a little bit of leeway there. So then I did not ever make that team again. Sure. But I did get a little leeway. Sure. Never missed the test.

1:53:27Pat McAfee:Sociology, love. Nancy Feather, love that lady. Professor Pat, loved you too, dude. I mean, there was a couple in there that I really enjoyed. Everything else, though, I'm not coming here to be a doctor or a lawyer, bro. Do we really need to know? Silent film class, that was great. Ooh. Really enjoyed that. The artist. Yeah, it was the train, the train robbery. Yep. that's like one of the original ones that's a first class because I realized after that first class it's probably it's probably aloha hello and goodbye for that particular class and it was fun though I should have experienced the education part of school more though I look back and think about that but these kids today, they don't even have to I hope they get to hang out and go to a bar every once in a while that's all I hope, give them a chance have a beer with the lads They are.

1:54:16Pat McAfee:They are. They are. It's coming back. Speaking of coming back, I'll see you guys in a while. The boys, though, will be back with surprise guest hosts. Whoa. Yeah, you guys will see it on Monday. Where will I be? I don't know. Maybe we'll do a little guessing game. I like that. Where is the asshole? Hashtag. It's far. Yes. I love you all. Goodbye. I will be back, obviously, in time for season. but there will be an extended amount of time where I will be in places unknown. Where in the world is Patrick McAfee? Yeah, that's a good question. Is it in the world? Have you thought about that? I haven't thought about that.

1:54:56Pat McAfee:Everything has gone to the space station. What do you mean? ISS. There's a lot going on. This is an incredibly cool opportunity, and I'm very thankful for it and lucky for it. Don't know if I'm prepared enough for it, but I've tried my best. You're an ayahuasca. Maybe now's the time to ask. Are you going overseas to get a bunch of elective surgeries? Maybe get to Turkey, get some new hair. Hashtag, mate. That might be where I am. Go to Egypt? Might go see the pyramids. You know, I think it was... Was it Despicable Me where they give away that the pyramids are just inflatable? Yes. First scene?

1:55:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, because he stole it. What's that? Yeah, he stole it. And left over an inflatable one. And that fat ass fucking fell on it. Grew, man. That kid, though. The kid was such a... He had a harness on it. He broke the harness. Yeah, he was a real piece. His parents were... Yeah, but he had a relentless... I mean, we should really think about that kid's mentality. I'm sure you don't know what we're talking about right now because your kids are a little bit older. Speak for me. I've seen them all, but I take it to the theater and I fall asleep usually, so I don't really follow the storyline too much.

1:56:04Pat McAfee:All right. All right, kids. What do you want to... You know, it's great. Whatever the newest one, hey, let's do it, guys. Let's go. But, you know, the seats lay all the way back. I'm going to take a 45-minute nap at some point in that movie. I'll say Despicable Me does keep you because the music is great. Yeah, the Minions, too. The Minions are incredible. Yeah, Pharrell, right? Despicable Me is good. What else? Yeah, Hotel Transylvania. Yeah. That's good. Has got us through for a while. Body animation. Have you seen Sing yet? Because I know you're a Netflix guy. Love Sing. Greatest Showman. Hey.

1:56:35Pat McAfee:What do you mean? I was watching Sing while we were putting together Big Night Out. And he's trying to put together a show. That's what he's trying to do. That was a really cool thing for... Mackenzie can never understand what was going on. But, hey, your dad is literally doing what is in this movie right now. Just with sumo wrestlers. As opposed to just singers in there. So it's been a good time. Have you guys dove into Pixar yet? We did Toy Story. She was a big fan. That's right. She loved Toy Story. Nemo? We haven't gone to Nemo yet. That'll be a big... Nemo's in A1. That feels like that is very stimulating.

1:57:12Monsters, Inc.

1:57:13Pat McAfee:We watched Journey 2. That's big. Who? Journey 2. The Center of the Earth. Is that the bird one? With Brendan Fraser. With Mysterious Island. You were talking about The Rock. Oh, yeah. Sure. It was made in 2012. That popped up on Netflix. Thought it was a new movie. I'm like, The Rock's in a new fucking kids movie? I go, this is Uncle Fano Boss here. And then I turned it on, you know? And it was clearly 2012. clearly. I mean, it was really nothing that Mackenzie was looking for in that. Sure. You know, it was. Sure. We're going to have to wait a few years. Story was good, though. Oh, yeah. They were going on a hunt to find something.

1:57:48Pat McAfee:Mysterious Island, obviously. He's a stepdad. Step boy does not like him until they kind of fall in love with the same thing. I never heard this movie. It popped up on Netflix. There's the number two show on Kids Netflix yesterday, and I'm like, holy shit, The Rock's got a number two show on Netflix? How come we never talk about Moana? We talk about that? We don't talk about this? No. They just, I guess, Netflix just got this and i'll tell you what that feels like a platform that if you get on there yeah right to the top yeah people are just looking for shit on netflix you've shown her tommy boy yet she's not seen tommy boy yet we she does know adam sandler though very well so she's in how many boy i think i think tommy boy chris farley any era any generation he he works which makes me very happy i i have she has seen letterman his entrance on letterman okay so she does know of Chris Farley, which she certainly will as she continues to grow older.

1:58:39Pat McAfee:She will understand the greats before she was around it and all. She's got a lot of rhythm. I don't know if that's all... That's my thing. Never really wanted to be around kids. Like ever. And I remember I had that book on how to be a dad. It was going to teach me about a bunch of kids, but she came two weeks early and I was going to read that. You know, like maybe a week out. So I never got to read... So I don't know really anything about the development and where and all that. And I'll keep the updates. And she passed the speech thing. Okay, that's great news. She's doing this. Yeah, we're hitting all the milestones, I think, whatever it is.

1:59:16Pat McAfee:But, like, she can really keep a beat. Like, she is actually rhythmic and loves music. I assume that's every kid because I kind of see the way it goes. But she will go right into the middle of a group and start dancing and everything like that. Might have a little, you know, she's a child star. but she ain't going to be a child star. Sure. She's going to be a star, but she's going to play sports first. Be a child first. Exactly. She's going to have a good time. A lot of temptation out there these days. All those decisions. Marcus Spears was talking about his kid, both his kids. All these people with just so many ideas at this moment.

1:59:50Pat McAfee:Think about all the ideas we get pitched. Just some of them completely ass. Somebody wants us to do 1 ,000 things for a very limited amount of money. And I'm 38 years old at this point of career and have seen all of these contracts for a long time now. And it's like somebody tried to get me with a fucking terrible contract. And it's like, couldn't even imagine what they're doing to 15, 16-year-olds at this point. That's scary, AJ. All of that's very scary. I mean, taking advantage of kids and their parents and their family, he was trying to help them. They're all trying to navigate it and figure it out in real time.

2:00:20So, yeah, I don't get it. I don't know. The good thing is, like, if you're good, they'll find you. You'll figure it out.

2:00:25Pat McAfee:Look at this. This is cool, right? Your family's never had this. Don't worry about it. We own you and everyone that's coming after you. Yeah, this is what we're expecting out of you, though. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eyes, eyes, eyes, eyes, eyes, eyes. We also need you to bum-ba-da-bum. Just reading through that. Excuse me?

2:00:46Pat McAfee:Has anybody ever agreed to something like this? Just need to know. Call a couple people. Hey, have you guys agreed to these types? Why are these deals allowed to exist? What is this? What has happened here? We would obviously never suggest that somebody should call to another agency. Are you guys agreeing to these fucking deals? Why do these people think that this is okay? This cannot be something that people think is okay. We would obviously never. Okay. All right. So yeah. Okay. So I don't know who's allowing these to be a thing, but we need to stop that. We need to make sure we understand. But also if you want to grind away and make a little bit of money, I guess those opportunities are out there.

2:01:19Pat McAfee:I couldn't imagine as a teenager having to deal with all that shit. Good luck, McKenzie. I'm pulling for you. Can you imagine, what if you're a teenager, what if you're a teenage kid and you have a staff of like, you know how these guys have managers and body work people. J. Krul. J. Krul. No, but I'm saying, what if you have all these people in high school and you don't even get one offer? You don't even have an opportunity to play in college. That probably happens. Oh, yeah, that happens. You think all the money's wasted on that and then they're in debt now forever? I don't know if they use the entire team for the entire four years, but I'm assuming there are definitely kids who after their second or third year of high school are like, okay clearly you're not gonna is jake firing these people who's firing them i yeah is it what if they're not good is it a till college type deal where it's like hey we'll take care of you and then once you're by the way it has worked for jake rule we're not saying that that's uh something is wrong i think it's good for these guys that are really good players yeah but i'm saying all of them aren't going to be super stuff and all these coaches aren't going to be good coaches like the um i think jake cruel had three sacks on three consecutive plays in one of the series last night for IMG.

2:02:23Pat McAfee:I think he had four or five sacks. I forget what it was. The start of the season. That's game one. Let alone what he's about to do going forward. That's insane numbers. That's like basketball numbers. How much do you average? He averaged like a five and five. What was it? Five sacks, five swats. What was that? One get one game. Some of these dudes are outrageous, but I assume some of these coaches are ass. It's like, can the high school player just fire them? I don't know who those deals go. I would assume so. So I also wonder how much of that stuff is IMG adjacent. Like he probably maybe had a couple, but I wonder if once you go to IMG, obviously like they're preparing kids to go play college football and college sports.

2:03:01So I wonder how much of that is like once he gets there, hey, we have this guy you can work with. We have this guy you can work with. We have this guy you can work with. Like I don't know.

2:03:08Pat McAfee:What about the other guy? The other guy is always there. The other guy is always there. Jeff Gardner, J. Mark G1962, feels like quick math. He is 63 years of age. He says IMG five-star edge, Jay Krul, Oklahoma commit, talks about his first. His multiple sack effort. Just say how many sacks so we can all know, Jeff, next time, please. Including three straight in one drive. So he had like 10 sacks? I don't know. Yeah, that could be anywhere from four or five. If he got three and three straight plays, I assume the rest of the series were pretty easy for him as well. Jay Krul currently has 14 sacks.

2:03:44Pat McAfee:Leads the country through one. and it would make sense after watching his film how about the show of the hands dip thing that he did just like so smooth right to the your mind thank you he's got to just be toying with people out there is this from last night oh you can't be scrambling with jay cruel on your side his pass rush his passion up the price uh rush clips always pop up my algorithm you heard me i stumbled through it yeah it's easy for us all to say i've had a few of those this week don't love it hopefully that'll go away on this man his motor i love his motor to go with his skill set too like the dude is relentless yeah and his he does the eye black around the eyes so i think that's kind of his thing like it looked as if yeah in the video he does the eye black around the eyes love a little moxie do what you gotta do starts going with different colored contacts let's start talking what was the guy the white bosh there he is and a bosh the best never forget walking out to the captain's thing scariest human ever to be on a football field maybe i literally just stared the entire time we want to kick that way it's a dome it doesn't really matter

2:04:53is that every game of course we're not talking yeah guys got red contacts in all right robert if i can call it right

2:05:05Pat McAfee:yep this dude's got red contacts so then handshake after boom bang right to him that's awesome all right i'll see you no games no nonsense he didn't give you like a nothing fucking he didn't i don't even know if he noticed i was there i still don't know if he knew that i was there i honestly have no idea but i was certainly intrigued by it all there was another one with adrian peterson i mean those captain's coin tosses i used to really take in the entire experience. Really used to explore the space whenever I'd go out there. Adrian Peterson got him in a handshake. Was prepared for that moment.

2:05:36Pat McAfee:He was not. He did not know what was coming. I did. Let me go ahead and fucking sneak in there. Boom! Gotcha! Boom! Thought so! Thought so! That was a gift from either ESPN or the Ken C. Chief. That little locker thing right there there's an album inside of it and this football was inside of it so um this thing yeah incredible it's like a baby duke baby baby actual baby baby duke here this is real leather here looks like it lamar hunt would love seeing these things so man how about talking about the draft saying hey lamar would love the draft he was like yeah yeah yes he would have that lamar guy dude innovator legit sports innovator people don't know that that's what i Hopefully this documentary, hopefully it shows people that, hey, yeah, this guy.

2:06:30I guess he's not spoken, at least, I don't know, is he nationwide as the guy that did so much for the NFL?

2:06:36Pat McAfee:I will say, growing up in Pittsburgh, obviously you hear the Lamar Hunt trophy. You know that for the AFC Championship. But it's never really followed up with, hey, the reason why. By the way. Yeah. All of this, basically, this guy. Without him. Because the commissioner talking at the time, Burt Rell. the NFL commissioner. What's his name? Burt Bell. Burt Bell. There it is. I was trying to see the name. Rel. I didn't see the bottom there. Something else. Burt Bell. He was, we don't need expansion. Yeah. We've got enough talent. What are you talking about? They'll ruin the league, kill the NFL.

2:07:11Pat McAfee:And then he was trying to, you know, it's like you need guys like that and women like that in a lot of different worlds to try to get to where you're headed. And it's like I think football fans should be a little bit more thankful for Lamar Hunt than we – because, I mean, Pittsburgh town, football town, Ohio football place. Oh, yeah. New England football. Did you know them? I didn't. No idea. None of us knew it. Not a clue. And I think it all goes into, oh, it's Chiefs. Yeah. Like, who cares? Especially for a large part of our childhood. They weren't that great. You know, so it's like, ah, it's Chiefs.

2:07:43We had the broonies, so it didn't really do.

2:07:44Pat McAfee:Exactly. That's how football fans feel. It's like, did they bet on horse racing, get enough money to buy a team? I don't think so. I don't want to hear it. It's like, no, this guy actually just wrote out the entire fucking business plan of the NFL. Pretty good guy. That's what's insane is that like what he has done for football and because of like us and how connected we are to football, it's easier to like understand. It feels like and granted, I only read a couple of things. It feels like he did just as much for tennis as he has done for the NFL. The Open Era Tennis, which is what it is now, he essentially created it, is how they framed it at least on his page on Wikipedia, that he was the creator of Open Era Tennis.

2:08:26Pat McAfee:Happy American Heroes getting kind of showcased a little bit, especially for our sport and our game. All right, AJ, maybe you're one of the surprise guest hosts live here in the start. Maybe, possibly. That'd be cool. Who are the guest hosts going to be while I am out doing something? That is a huge honor. I can't stress this enough. Like a non-turned-downable thing, I think. Yeah, for sure. Now, is it time-consuming? Sure. Hey, you know what? Anything worth two salts is going to be a little time-consuming. Amen. Ain't that the truth? Amen. I love you all. I appreciate you all. Hold it down, please.

2:09:06Pat McAfee:And when football season starts back up?

2:09:12Pat McAfee:we're off and running train rolls we are I might be a completely different person when I come back you might be there's a chance probably have to be prepared for that have to be prepared for that I have have you I just thought about it you need to start thinking that we're all going to be different people though when you get back just because we're all going to be so much happier because football I have started technically yeah I guess not yet unless it has ah keeping guests who knows interesting this is the stupidest life of all time we thank you all so much be your friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life we're in this thing together a lot of preseason football going on let's enjoy it all let's enjoy this life i'll see you guys in a few the boys and a surprise guest host i think everybody's gonna really be happy boo is back on monday then tuesday then wednesday we're all in this thing together we We appreciate you, AJ.

2:10:07Pat McAfee:Timo, in the back. Great work. Good work, boys.

2:10:14Pat McAfee:Graphic boys. Really good. Good work, boys. Talk guy. Taco. Really good. Mitt. That a baby. Hey, Mitt. Had a lot of special guests this week here. Yeah. A lot of very, right? Oh, yeah. It's been great. I mean, this has been an insane week. This has been an insane week here at the Thunderdome. And then Riley Green coming in today. Carry on top. An absolute dog. That was great. All right. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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