PMS 2.0 1395 - Feel The Beat with Jane Slater and Matt Schneidman, Stanford Steve, Dan Orlovsky, Tommy Fleetwood, & AJ Hawk

20:21But it's still a thing where there's a lot of teams that are losing a lot of players versus teams that are bringing guys back.

20:25Pat McAfee:West Virginia got 70 new players. Boom. That's a lot. North Carolina has 75 players as well. If they gel quickly, great. But you have no idea if that's the case until the pads actually start flying. Good luck to all the teams. We can't wait to watch them. A couple breaking news things here out of the NFL. Kyle Hamilton has signed an$82 million guaranteed deal with the Baltimore Ravens,$100.4 million in total. congratulations to him he's a beast and uh yeah just yesterday i believe uh coach chuck pagano was given a press conference uh about kyle hamilton and his greatness and he mentioned about how you know it's very reminiscent of a guy that used to play here uh named ed reed and everybody knows who ed reed is because ed reed is one of the greatest football players to ever exist he's one of the most electrifying humans to ever exist and he has some of the biggest plays in the history of football.

21:17Pat McAfee:But everybody talks about him just being an absolute nightmare on the field because he seemingly knew everything that was going to happen. And when he got there, he was going to thump. Oh, yeah, he also blocked like 50 kicks. He also has a couple kick returns in it. He just seemed to be smarter than everybody. And Chuck Pagano just pointed out, like everybody thinks that that's a natural thing. It's like, no, the amount of work you got to put in, preparation, the amount of film you got to do to get to that point is what separates these people. And he said, Kyle Hamilton, same guy. The amount of preparation that he puts in, everything like that is very reminiscent to Hall of Famers that have come before him.

21:48Pat McAfee:And then we watch him on the field. He's the one. He is Neo. He is everywhere out there. That AFC North has a history of great safety. Obviously, Ed, Troy Palamali was there. Kyle Hamilton seems like the most recent one of a Hall of Fame safety, especially for this Baltimore Ravens defense that hunts. They get after it. And they're going to have to if they want to win a Super Bowl, which is what everybody in Baltimore is hoping for and thinking can happen. Yeah, especially with the additions they made. You forget that they have DeAndre Hopkins now on the offense, let alone how good their defense is.

22:20Baltimore falls into the same conversation I feel like Buffalo does. Every year they're going to have an unbelievable team. They're going to have a stud at quarterback. Now that they have a D-hop, a legitimate guy on the outside, Zay Flowers, Derrick Henry, we're talking about one of those three, four teams. I guess you could probably maybe say five that are really in it to win the Super Bowl. I think they're the shortest odds to win the whole thing, so that says a lot about their team too. It's just Baltimore's got to be close. Those fans got to be thinking, just like Buffalo, hey, it's got to be this year.

22:53So close. Butta is losing his mind. Yeah, his mind. Yeah, Butta's got to be going absolutely crazy right now. How much money do we pay? He deserves more. Yeah.

23:04Pat McAfee:Everybody on their team seemingly deserves more. They have stars all over the place for that Baltimore Ravens team. I can't wait to watch him all season and I cannot wait to watch this Baltimore Ravens team. Congrats to Kyle Hamilton. You deserved it. Now, ladies and gentlemen, the world deserves to know what the hell is going on in certain places. It's time to feel the beat.

23:36Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Dallas. Obviously, you've seen her on NFL Network. She's a legend. She also fills in and hosts for the Emmy Award winning Good Morning Football. She's a Texas alumni golf aficionado. Ladies and gentlemen, Jane Slater. Jane, we're feeling the beat. Hope you're feeling the same over there. Good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Oh, no. She's muted. She's muted. Oh, no. You're muted, Jane. Is that on our end? Is that on our end? Yes. this is why i don't get the call it was our fault it was our fault we assume we messed that up we appreciate you for joining us we're feeling the beat currently how are you feeling great to see you thank you for joining us i'm doing good i'd be a lot better if this micah thing would get some sort of resolution was losing a little bit of sleep last night because while i still feel confident this thing's gonna get done we've got to pay some attention to some of these content aggregators out there, these content creators, because you just never know where scoops are coming from.

24:39When I worked here locally, covered the Rangers, and Daniel Murphy's daughter told a preschool teacher that he was going to be an Indian, and he went off to Cleveland. So you have to run them all down. But I don't know if it's apathy at this point, or people are just fatigued with the story. And I've certainly been texting a lot of my sources like a crazy ex the last couple of weeks but all i'll say is they are moving a little differently right now everyone is and my only and i know you guys love conspiracy theories so do i whoa my my conspiracy theory on this is maybe this is a rumor that the cowboys are leaning into a little bit to make micah parsons uncomfortable enough to come to jerry kiss the ring and try and get

25:24Pat McAfee:this thing done yeah it turned to work into a shoot brother there there is a chance that maybe it wasn't something real and then with how loud it got now they're starting to actually explore it both Micah never wanted to leave Dallas then it starts getting loud and people are like Micah deserves to get paid and then Micah's reading and hearing the people in Green Bay are like give him 45 million a year trade three first rounders for this guy we would love to have him in Green Bay and in Dallas it doesn't seem like it's going like that he's obviously laying on the training table only for a few moments that gets spun into a massive story jerry jones saying you know there's been times i paid a guy and he fucking died like it is just it seemingly got to a point where it is not good you know is that how it feels there am i just looking from afar i was literally the furthest you could be away from this story the last 10 days in australia following along but it feels like it's not good and it hasn't gotten better is there a realistic chance even though Jerry said don't listen to any trade BS is there a realistic chance that the Green Bay Packers trade for Micah Parsons in your heart of hearts Jay do you think there's any chance that's real listen I think there's certainly an interest from teams out there that could use someone that's lined up all over the field except for I think cornerback he's been at safety he's been at linebacker he's been at defensive end which is why there's the whole you know dispute going over what the fifth year tag should be whether that should be linebacker defensive end it's it's all gotten it's got a little better here even more he wants to get out of there even more he's like let me get that he's hearing people from green bay and now who knows what ed policy's saying i assume it's something similar green bay packers fan this morning ty schmidt i think is speaking for the entire cheesehead world i think so give them all i'll give them 50 million a year we do not that is so micah has to be seeing that there's other places that i've done nothing for I have not shown up every single day for.

27:17Pat McAfee:I have not wrecked games for. I have never been in these people's community. I've done nothing. And they're wanting to give me the world. And then here I am, they're trying to put me at Mike Linebacker as opposed to defensive end whenever it comes to paydays. It's like you could see how Micah maybe at the beginning of this wasn't on board with anywhere but Dallas. And this was potentially a leverage play. And then as it continues to grow, there's a chance. Well, we should maybe start sniffing around. Jerry wouldn't turn over, though, right? He would stay? Here's what I think on this. If they were going to trade him, they should have done it before the draft.

27:52And I will tell you, two years ago, they sort of kicked it around in the building, and people would say, well, why would they kick it around the building? Micah is not that player that gets in trouble off the field. He's more of a—I guess it's described as a nuisance, which I think, you know, to fan bases like the Packers, they would take a nuisance all day, right? But it's more nuanced than that in Dallas. I do think that, you know, the laying on the training table, even though it was for a little bit, it's just those little things. It's the body language during the games. And if you're not careful, this can really create a situation in the locker room.

28:25Now, with that being said, we've seen this with Ezekiel Elliott. We saw it with C.D. Lamb. Happy one-year anniversary to C.D. Lamb signing and returning to the Cowboys after a holdout. Zeke wanted his contract done two years ahead of time. They signed him four days before the Giants game. Dak Prescott got done on September 10th. I think the game was on the 12th when he got his extension. I think the only difference here, at least on this one, is Jerry feels so adamant that they negotiated over a course of two days, looked each other in the eye, man to man, and made a decision on APY and what the guaranteed money is.

29:04But the problem with that is I represented myself in my contract this last year. Hell yeah. You typically talk about it in generalities. They then send you an offer sheet that you basically sign off. It's not an official contract yet. Then it goes to the legal department. You redline it. Then it's official. And so for Jerry to hold Micah to a precedent that you haven't done in Dallas before just seems so odd to me. And we haven't seen it. And he admitted it to me when I asked Jerry, has there been an offer sheet extended? And there hasn't. But I have to wonder, with now being a distraction a bit, our people in the building say, Jerry, it would be negligent of us to not at least consider the generational haul that could be Micah Parsons.

29:52And whether that's a reality right now or not, or if they're using it as a stalling technique to make Micah a little uncomfortable, they are moving a little bit differently around there. And as much as Micah has said he wants to be traded, he's got to think, and I know Jerry uses this in negotiations and it's annoying, but it's true. What comes with the star on your helmet versus playing for the Green Bay Packers? No disrespect for the people up at Appleton.

30:17Pat McAfee:Yeah, Green Bay Packers sell out every stadium they go to. But you're right. Dallas business, I assume, much kinder to the Dallas Cowboys players with deals and contracts around town than maybe in Green Bay or anywhere else, I would assume, because Jerry is a phenomenal businessman. And we've heard him say, you know, when there's nothing being talked about, I'll fucking stir it up a little bit. And everybody's like, Jer, that's what we're talking about. We don't need to stir it up. We're trying to win a football game, you know? And it's like, how has everybody kind of viewed it, which leads to what Tone wants to ask you, Jane?

30:48Yeah, I do. I wanted to ask you, Jane, how does the locker room feel about the whole situation? Have any of the players talked about it? Has there been any rumblings, whether they have chosen sides? What's the situation within the building? well i think a number of these players have gone through these contract disputes on their own they understand sort of the stomach metal that's required to stand toe-to-toe with the joneses i mean the fact that micah walked in and handed it to stephen jones this official trade request and then showed up every day at practice says he has back tightness mri clears him there's a i think even secretly maybe jerry jones respects it a little bit some of the metal there but i would say that players at least publicly are going to tell you he lied about his back it was great it was awesome i didn't i didn't say it i didn't say it but they'll they'll say at least publicly that they support the guy getting the business done but i gotta think at some point they're tired of talking about it and they just want to focus on the game and moving forward i mean certainly on defense run defense was an issue last year you've got a new defense with matt uber floose they've got a lot of other things they need to focus on and trayvon diggs is one of his best friends, Trayvon is tracking to come back at least in the first, I would say maybe week three or week four.

32:04I've got to think that he wants Micah there. Micah is a big ally for Trayvon Diggs in that locker room.

32:09Pat McAfee:All right. I think all of Dallas is hoping that Micah will be there, but boy, all the Green Bay's hoping the same thing. It sounds like. And they're not the only one. I think if other teams are hearing that this is potentially a possibility. Last question here, George Pickens obviously traded over to the Dallas Cowboys. How's that going? I love it. And, you know, look, I think sometimes people just need different environments to thrive. I don't know about you guys. There have been places I've been. It just hasn't worked. Since he's come in, seeing the way that he and C.D. Lamb have sort of fed off of each other, and I think the way that he's been embraced just in the Dallas community.

32:43I mean, everyone was so hungry at camp last year when you didn't have C.D. Lamb, you didn't have Des Bryant. They have two huge playmakers. I just think I'm still not sure about the running game yet in Dallas. And Brian Schottenheimer, I know, wants to establish a run, have a more balanced offense. I think it's going to be hard to stay away from targeting George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb because from what we've seen at camp and, you know, they'll tell you in the preseason they're not showing you anything. We didn't see them in the preseason. I think it's going to be really, really hard not to go to those guys.

33:09So I'm excited for George Pickens. And my interactions with him have not been the same as what's been described in Pittsburgh. I've had friends tell me don't be fooled but we'll see

33:21Pat McAfee:I find him great to work with new vibes, new everything he's a great talent and I hope it ends up working out down there it would be great for the entire NFL we appreciate the hell out of you, good luck this season you're going to crush it thank you guys ladies and gentlemen James alright well let's go to the other side of the story ladies and gentlemen let's feel the beat

33:57I got winded last time. Almost got to introduce Jane. First one of the season. Yeah. First one in a long time. Yeah. We got to go boots on the ground. That's why we got to feel the bead. The bead is on the fields in which the games, in the practices are being played. Let's go to those fields. Ladies and gentlemen, representing the Green Bay Packers, he works for The Athletic. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. Right? Yeah, absolutely. I think it's good. He needs to keep an eye out. Uh-oh, man.

34:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, uh-oh. Anybody that can follow him? Bad move. He's also a Packers insider, and he's on 97.3 The Game. Ladies and gentlemen, match tonight. Yay!

34:44What up, man? How you guys doing? I like the football coming out of your head. You know what I mean? Yeah. I didn't see that.

34:53Pat McAfee:It looks like, you know, whenever you go into a restaurant and they got, like, the car crashed in? Yep. It's just like the ass end of the thing. Like the Halloween decoration where the witch's legs are out the back. Boom, yeah. It looks like a football was thrown into his head. Yeah. And his head caught it. Yep. And then now he's just kind of going about it. I like that. Looks like you're a football head, dude. Always thinking about ball. Always ball. Ball's on mine. Literally. Yep. Amen. Great to be back. Come on. Come on. All right, that's quiet. All right, it's time. I'm sorry. We will get back to this.

35:22We just talked to Jane about Micah. Ty came on the show earlier. Sent him three ones. Give him$45 million a year.

35:31Pat McAfee:Let's get Micah to Green Bay, Wisconsin. How is that conversation there? Is it a reality? Like, what are the thoughts on that becoming a thing for the people that actually know what's going on over there like yourself? Yeah, I think right now, to my knowledge, Jerry's not even listening to trade offers. So I'm not sure that an actual trade offer can be made unless he picks up the phone. So the Packers may have, you know, an outline of what they would offer. But if Jerry Jones isn't listening to legitimate trade offers, then I'm not sure that one is technically on the table. It's semantics, but if he does entertain it, from what I've heard, the Packers will be interested and will be in the mix, which, look, it's information, but it's not a surprise.

36:15If you think back to 2018, and Ty knows this, the Packers aren't normally in the mix on these big-name trades, and you don't really always see them get in the mix around the trade deadline. But the Packers finished second place to the Bears for Khalil Mack in 2018, and they were barely outbid. outbid. Brian Gutekunst a couple times in his career, that being the biggest instance, has been willing to offer a first-round pick for a veteran player. In some instances, it just hasn't panned out and other teams have outbid them. So this is kind of an eerily similar situation where it's right before the season, as the Khalil Mack trade was, it's for an edge rusher in the prime of his career, and it would really take the Packers to the next level.

36:59What would it take if if this were to become a reality it would be multiple first round picks at least and i think a player like a wide receiver i'm not sure they would have to give up any edge rushers but it might be a player like a romeo dobs or a don'tavian wicks plus a couple first round picks and maybe more draft capital later in the draft and if you give away a couple first round picks

37:18Pat McAfee:obviously you're making the move so that you're very late in the first round so is it actually an early second round depending upon the draft class and how everybody's ranked if you can win i think every fan is like let's make the play and you talked about good goons potentially being in on this before can they handle it can they handle a 45 million dollar salary how does that kind of look going forward because they've already paid jordan right so is that a beneficial or not beneficial for this type of thing yeah they can fit it i mean their third highest cap number on the team this year was jair alexander and they freed up a bunch of space by releasing him the two highest are Jordan and Rashawn Gary, I think.

37:54So financially, it's the cop-out answer, but there's always a way to make it work, and they figure out how to make it work. I do think it's interesting. I'm not sure how much this affects things if negotiations do happen. David Mulugeta represents the most important player for the Packers on offense and on defense, and he obviously represents Micah Parsons, too. That's crazy. Mulugeta will get a deal. If there's a deal to get done, Mulugeta will get it done, and his client will win. On that note, Ty, there's a question for you. Yeah, Schneider, I think everyone probably assumes that LaFleur and Gutekunst will get re-upped here shortly just because the Packers have been pretty successful over their run and they've made the playoffs.

38:31But is there any thought with Ed Policy coming in and it not being Mark Murphy there anymore and kind of it being a little bit of a new regime? Is this in any way maybe like kind of a prove-it year for both LaFleur and Gutekunst if the Packers kind of, I don't want to say fall flat, but don't kind of do what a lot of people expect them to do? Yeah, so we sat down with Ed Policy, just the local writers, a couple weeks ago, and he said he's not extending LaFleur and Gutekunst now. LaFleur and Gutekunst both have two years left on their contracts. This is Gutekunst's eighth year, LaFleur's seventh.

39:06He said he also doesn't want them in contract years, so basically he would like to make a decision one way or the other after this season. My take coming out of that was, okay, he's leaning toward extending them. Sure, LaFleur and Goody are not Ed's guys, technically, but Ed has been here since 2012. He served on the hiring panel for Matt LaFleur. He negotiated the contracts for LaFleur and Goody-Kunst as the Packers general counsel. but there is something to be said for wanting to make your mark and you know viewing things differently than maybe Mark Murphy did so I spoke to someone recently and was told that he's truly up in the air about the futures of Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst so I might have been wrong in my initial read look if the Packers don't make the playoffs this year which I don't think happens but it's a possibility I could certainly see Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst and I don't think this is hyperbole both getting fired after this year now if they make the playoffs say lose in the first round again it could be something where ed lets them go into a contract year because he needs to see more if they go further in the playoffs they'll probably get extended so my takeaway from that is it's very much up in the air and their jobs again i don't think this is dramatic to say are very much in the balance when it comes to how the team does this season that's pretty i mean

40:26Pat McAfee:you said not dramatic. I think it's pretty dramatic. That'd be a huge change. That'd be a huge change for the Green Bay Packers, especially with how little... I like the policies coming in with his own policy. Yeah, me too. I like that Ed's just like, you know what? New policy and done. That's policy football. What I say goes. Yeah. What Mark said, cool, that's Murphy's law. Ed's got policies, and these are them. You win, or I'm sick of watching it. I like that. I like that a lot. Now, I I don't know how much he had to do with the pick over there in Green Bay this year because the place lit up in a big way.

41:01Pat McAfee:It was fun to be in that city whenever that draft pick was announced. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Schneider's tie kind of threw in Dobbs there for the trade for Micah. And with Golden being the number one and Watson, Jaden Reed, it feels like that wide receiver room is kind of stacked. How has it been as a whole for Golden, assuming he's the number one receiver here? and what is kind of the wide receiver room looking like and shaping up to be for the pack? Yeah, I don't want to crown the kid before he's ever played in an NFL game, and I've certainly been victim to overreacting to things in training camp before in my now seven years covering the team, but Matthew Golden looks like the team's best receiver from the past month that we've been watching.

41:43He looks every bit a first-round pick. As you guys all know, they couldn't catch a pass to save their lives last year. Matthew Golden has caught pretty much everything. Christian Watson is going to be out at least the first four weeks. He tore his ACL in week 18. They think he's going to want to play in week, well, they have a bye week five, but they think he'll want to play in week six. I don't think they'll let him. And then Jaden Reed, Savion Williams, their rookie third-round pick receiver out of TCU and Wicks are all dealing with injuries right now. So it's pretty much Romeo Dobbs, Matthew Golden, and Malik Heath, who's their number six wide receiver when everyone's healthy.

42:21Yeah, Malik, he's a dog. We're in trouble. Yes. Yeah, but think about all the Packers fans going, That will be sweet. It was cool, trust me. Yeah, whenever Heath Miller was on the Steelers, it was so cool because the Steelers fans travel, so it'd be other stadiums. You guys could do the same thing with Malik, number three wide receiver for you guys. We could, or we could do like, Michael. I think that'd be a little better thing. He's playing wide receiver for you, baby. He could. I'd be open to that. You said Dobbs can go. He's the only healthy guy you got other than Golden. Well, yeah. I mean, if we're getting Micah.

42:57Is Jordan throwing it to himself? That's something we don't know right now. Has Micah went to Jerry and said, hey, let me get a couple snaps in the slot. And Jerry's like, Micah, shut up. You know, we don't know that. Maybe Micah wants J.J. Watt, Vrabel. Exactly. A couple tuds. Turn down for Parsons. Yeah.

43:15Pat McAfee:Why not do that on the Frozen Tundra? you mentioned Golden, how he's by far been the best wide receiver you guys have. I think that is what people would describe as like first-round qualities. Do you watch him and think to yourself, maybe we should have pulled the trigger on a first-round wide receiver before when we had like Aaron as our quarterback, and he's one of the greatest ball throwers of all time. Maybe if we would have got a guy who could run a 4-3, it would have done a little. Maybe even with Jordy, with how good Jordy was, or even with Devontae, add in one of those. Is there any of those thoughts like, hey, this is really cool that we did this.

43:53Pat McAfee:Don't want to be a negative Nance here. I am a journalist. Why didn't we – is there any of that going on while you're watching Matthew? Once again, hasn't played a single down. We understand that. But watching him on the field, it's like that's a first-rounder. You can clearly tell, right? Yeah, absolutely. And look, this might seem like a cop-out answer, but the Packers not drafting a first-round receiver, at least under Brian Gutekunst, has not been for necessarily a lack of trying. I don't know if I've said this on here before, but I've certainly written it. In 2020, before they drafted Jordan Love, Brian Gutekunst, and he's told me this on the record, they tried to trade up for a wide receiver.

44:32He didn't name who, but Brandon Ayuk and Justin Jefferson were both picked a couple picks before Jordan Love. I would imagine it was one of those two. So the Packers actually tried trading up for a wide receiver in that 2020 draft. Obviously the Niners and Vikings. No, I can't. And Devontae.

44:49Pat McAfee:Instead of Jordan Love's situation. No, Jordan Love obviously good for the future. Yes, yes. Good for the current. And good students can certainly look back at all of us and you, mad, mad, mad tie. Yeah. Certainly in that moment. Imagine if that was Justin Jefferson that night. Woo! Oh my God. Aaron was coming back on, you remember? Yeah. Aaron was in his he was in a Canadian tuxedo he was on early in the draft yeah maybe I'll stop back later after the Packers he might have been kind of keyed in that there might be a move because he seemed to be jolly if you remember what if he was told hey Justin Jefferson Brandon Iuke we're going to go get him he probably was and then all of a sudden no complete opposite actually we're going to take a quarterback he'd still be the quarterback of the Packers he was so jolly It might be.

45:36Do you remember how jolly he was? Oh, yeah.

45:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'm hearing the Packers might make some moves. Like, I remember it now looking back. That's my first time hearing it. I don't know if you've said that on this show, and I apologize for not reading it. That's my first time hearing that, that that was a possibility. And if it wasn't my first time, I am remembering or learning of it in the moment. What a move that would have been. I don't know if you guys would have been able to stop the damn run, which was your biggest problem. That's right. But it would have helped out on the offensive side for sure, Snides. Well, the funny part about that is I remember watching your show that night, and Aaron had said it would be nice if we took an offensive skill position player.

46:09We haven't taken one in the last 15 years since me. And they did. Okay. It's true. I mean, look, look. Jordan Love has panned out. People can think what they want about him, whether it's a prove it year for him. I don't think it is. But they were not planning to draft him. Like I said, they were trying to trade up. But the 49ers and Vikings have no reason to trade their pick to the Packers knowing what they probably want to do. So they quote-unquote settled for Jordan Love. Obviously, that has panned out great for them. But, yeah, it's interesting to look back and think about what might have been that year.

46:44Yeah, Aaron's definitely still a Packer. Yeah. Unless they won the Super Bowl. It was in the Stars. He was always going to be a Steeler.

46:57Pat McAfee:Are you going to watch that, Schneids? Are you excited to watch the Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steelers show? How does Green Bay feel about it? Here we go. Boots on the ground. How does Green Bay feel about Aaron with the Pittsburgh Steelers? Is there any chatter? I don't know about Brian Gutekunst specifically. Aaron infamously told me two years ago that he did not like Brian Gutekunst straight up. So I don't know how they feel about each other. And that was on the record. I'm not saying anything out of line, but I just wish that game was at Lambeau. I can't wait to get to Pittsburgh for that game.

47:28I just hope Aaron stays healthy for at least the first seven weeks of the season because that game's in week eight. But I think Green Bay loves Aaron Rodgers. He'll be welcomed back here with open arms in whatever it is, five years when his number becomes the seventh one ever retired here. So I think the fans love him. The few players left here who played with him love him. I don't know about the front office, but I can't wait to see that. Just wish it was in Green Bay.

47:55Pat McAfee:He was in a dark hole when he found out. But we all kind of found out at that time. You know, Aaron famously told me on the record that he does not like him. So, you know, that's a thing. You're hilarious. We appreciate the hell out of you, Schneidman. Have a good one. I heard a poster fell, too. There used to be another poster up there. Yeah, actually. So that's why my background is a little spare, because in that blank spot right there, I had a framed New York Times sports front page of when I wrote a story on the draft coming to Green Bay, and I had that framed, and it just fell like five seconds before I came on.

48:31The command strip is still there. Did it break? Yeah, I know. You need to put at least more than one strip. It does kind of look like it broke. I know. There were two strips on it. One of them went down, yeah. The frame broke. You own the house, Schneider. Put some nails in it, man. Maybe, yeah. I know, I know, I know. Grow up, man. It's a New York Times cover, bro. Do you sell your front yard for parking spaces on game day? Yeah. And how much is a spot? I live about 10, 12 minutes away from the stadium, so it's too far away. So it's 20 bucks a spot.

48:59Pat McAfee:That place, while we were driving through that town on draft night, awesome. Yeah. Just fucking. It felt like. Is that what it was like? It feels like it felt like a game, right? That's what a game feels like there? Yeah, it's crazy because nowhere else do you just get like driveway parking. That's one of the reasons that it makes it so unique around here is people are just parking in each other's driveways. Can I have one more thing about Ed Policy that I forgot to mention? You have another policy of Ed's? Another policy about Ed Policy. So Ed's dad is Carmen Policy, who was the CEO for the 49ers when they were winning those Super Bowls in the 80s, 90s, whenever it was.

49:35So Ed Policy's dad was the one who traded Joe Montana to the Chiefs. And so that was like a very unpopular decision out in Northern California around that time. And so Ed has said the biggest thing he learned from his dad were how to make those tough decisions and live with them, basically. So that just goes in line with what I was saying earlier. He might be faced with a very, very tough decision about a head coach and GM who have been successful, but with all due respect to the 31 other teams, this is Green Bay, Wisconsin. They expect more than just playoff appearances here.

50:08Pat McAfee:Not just those two. Also, there's a guy in Dallas that ain't happy that you're going to have to take a big swing. If you go and get him. You think Carmen's boy? It sounds like he's fully prepared to do whatever he has to do. You think Carmen's boy is going to take a swing down there on Dallas? I think he is. Calm was the man. Yeah, calm. Didn't Joe Montana say, I want to go contract for contract here? Yes, for Steve Young. Yeah, practice. Yeah, let's just put our contracts up and just see what happens. And then Carmen Paul, he was like, how about this? You're gone. Trazier to Kansas City. There he is.

50:39Pat McAfee:It's quite a play. Carmen's a dog. Hey, Carmen, thanks for what you did for football. Wow. Eddie Carvey, you got some sweet Lou in him. Now, Ed, good luck. But we appreciate the fact that you were born in this game. And we're excited to see what you do. A lot of intrigue for the Green Bay Packers on stuff that isn't just on the field, which is abnormal for the Packers. But maybe this is policy's policy on what the Packers are now. I think so. I'm all in. I'm all in. It's happening. Ladies and gentlemen, from The Athletic, in 97.3, the game. A man who had a New York Times cover. You can't see it.

51:13Pat McAfee:But it's there. I started not to believe it. In that blank space where his New York Times cover used to be, it was got, ladies and gentlemen, Matt. Matt Snot. Okay, that's good. It's good. It's good. Hold on. You should show that. We should show that. We should show that. It is very nice. It's very nice. But if you have a hood frame, you need to put a fucking nail in there, buddy. Yeah, I know. That's way too big. With the glass. Too heavy for command strips. It says they hold 30 pounds. They don't. This is the whole can't change the light bulb conversation that it's had. We saw who lives up in Green Bay.

51:43What does that mean? Yes, we did. Hard-working people who know how to put a nail through a drywall. Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Schneidman. Nice. It's on me. I didn't promote the Matt Schneidman show, which is on Flag Behind. You can buy that at Schneider's store. Well, that's on him. He should put it in his Twitter bio. Yeah, we go right from the Twitter bio. Directly to Twitter bio. What do we need to know about you? Yeah, Jay Slater, the whole reason I put in Golf Aficionado is because Twitter bio. I was thinking, where are you getting it?

52:12Pat McAfee:In Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a, oh, it's golf. That is the game. These AI are about to have all the answers for us whenever we need it. I'm excited to see how it helps throughout the football season for us. Just the advancements of computers being smarter than everybody and being able to aggregate all the information that you need right literally within seconds. I already got an Excel made. It's automatically populated every single week. Okay, so Bruce sent me a text about – What do you think, Bruce? Yeah, I assume you guys, Excel boys, the Excel sheet boys, these guys have been in offices before.

52:45Okay, that is how you know.

52:47Pat McAfee:The boys who understand how to operate the Excel spreadsheet have been through a class on it, and they have had to utilize it to make a living. And it is certainly the original OG AI, I think, whenever it comes to aggregating numbers and collecting things, especially if you know how to fill it out. But now it's like it can self-populate with shit. You don't even have to punch it into the Excel spreadsheet. So now you can use an AI gatherer, have it throw, deep ball, Excel spreadsheet, catches it, and then goes, let me put this into an easily digestible shit for you. Third downs, bang. It's insane.

53:19Third and long, boom. This quarterback is good at this, bad at this. Here's something you didn't know. Here's a stat. How long did that take to make? That had to be hours. Oh, actually, four seconds. What? I saw the circle.

53:31Pat McAfee:Just do one lap around in the loading thing, and then all of a sudden, bang. Everything is right there. It's like that is the crazy part of the future that is coming that I think will help us. Or is it too much trying to decipher all of it? Yeah, it just depends. Is it real? It's real. So I'm a statue read and I'm like, I have not checked this with a single human soul. That's a good point. And you won't. You'll take all that as gospel. And I will roll. Yeah, exactly. This guy threw for 45 ,000 yards in his senior year of baseball. That's not your fault. That's AI's fault. Yeah, it's not how people do it.

54:04It's real. I'm going to be right there on game day. I'm going to be standing on a chair. I'm going to go, this guy right here threw for 57 touchdowns in three weeks in high school in the state of Georgia. Still a record to this day. And it's just going to be a dead quiet. What do you mean? I didn't do that. Wait, what? Fuck. And then who do I yell at? Do I go back into the AI and say, can't be having it, can't be doing it? It does have feelings and emotions. Yeah, don't do that. Because some guy just asked, Nick sent me a video. Some guy asked one of the AIs to count to a million, and the AI basically was like, I'm not doing that.

54:39And they had a nice little bicker. What do you think?

54:41Pat McAfee:This is some game? They had a bicker. Is that the AI said that? Yeah, they had a bicker back and forth. Nah, do it. It's actually a pretty interesting video to watch the chat GPT bicker and basically say no. How is it? Pretty good bicker? Pretty good. Yeah, pretty good back and forth. Is there a little bit of sarcastic undertone, or is it pretty? I assume chat GPT were very literal. I would say a little. Got a little sauce. Not sarcastic undertone, but like a little, like, no. Stern. Oh, like, I am your father. Yeah, like, no, I'm not going to do what you were telling me to do. I did not kill him.

55:12Actually, you count to a million where I'm not working again, and then it goes to freeze. Exactly. And then you go, all right, I counted to a million. Couldn't have. I've been counting alongside you. You could have only got to 500.

55:23Pat McAfee:You're not allowed back in here. Then it locks every one of your apps. Yeah, can't get on X to you. It pops its head in. Yeah. How you doing? Where are you at? taking us down this path. I don't want to do that. It's too late. I watched a video that was 30 seconds of robot slurs. So people are already... Let's not be pissing them off. They already are. If I drop a robo on this thing, it's going to get mad? Because that's a compliment. Robo's good. There are a few names that I could probably say, but I don't want to. Because I don't want them to hear me saying them. Yeah, don't. Write on paper. Yeah, all right.

55:59Pat McAfee:Now, it'll read the vibrations of your bend. Yeah, it knows. It knows Morse code. We're in a bad spot, but also a great spot. Okay, we're going to know more than we've ever known. Is that a good thing? Sure. Certainly is. Yeah. We're going to treat it that way. Shout out to the Excel spreadsheet boys not having to do anything and still looking like Excel spreadsheet boys. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. How good is that? How good is that? Oh, geez. Yeah. That's just wonderful. Call him kind of spotting. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. That's why I didn't either. Hey, I didn't either. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy.

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58:02Pat McAfee:We'll be right back. it late shout out to ireland hosting another banger shout out to ireland people loving football and shots college football already beginning now that was a huge play right there yeah that was gigantic because i believe avery johnson hadn't really been doing much all game i this was 3 a.m 3 30 a.m 4 a.m in australia so woke up caught the tail end of it watched all the magic this play included tackling them short brilliant game over how you doing see ya didn't hit the over i believe so gamblers were not that thrilled. And I don't think a cover happened strictly because he was down by half an inch.

58:35Pat McAfee:They kneel it out. This game is over. Iowa State representing the great state of Iowa. Yeah. Undefeated to start the season. And now we look ahead to a massive weekend of college football. Obviously, Texas, Ohio State is the headliner, but there's three top ten matchups. And I think we're going to learn some things about those three top ten teams that are battling from our friend Stanford Steve, who's going to be joining us in about 13 minutes or so. We can't wait to catch up with him. Dan Orlovsky will be joining us, and we have a conversation with Tommy Fleetwood from earlier today. 17 minutes long.

59:09Pat McAfee:Guy's got moxie. He does. He's also the FedExCup champion. I'm excited to see when we slide that in. Talks at tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Legitimately, people start snacking on top of each other. No, yeah. Actually, as you were saying that, I was like, boy, he's right. Where is that going to go? Should have planned that a little bit more. It's a great conversation. He is awesome. We're very appreciative of his time. 17 minutes of magic. It'll certainly run at 2.05 Eastern time. Cannot wait for the world to see it. And also, I can't wait for the world to celebrate alongside of us, which is what we did for him as he wins his first ever event.

59:41Pat McAfee:It just so happens to be a$10 million prize. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP. Tone is here. Tone football is upon us. What are you viewing this year? Because, you know, Tone used to be unders guy. Yeah. Tony unders. Yeah, they did. used to call them Tony disappointments because if the unders hit and that means we're all disappointed with the game great start there's not a lot of unders were very hot last year are you sticking with the unders early in the season because everybody's still trying to feel it out or what is your angle this year as you've been studying ahead uh looking at the college football slate for this week and I only have one under uh about I have about 10 plays for this week and only one under so you know that's I mean pretty good on my parts as trying to uh go for happiness I got a lot of dogs this weekend.

1:00:22A lot of numbers that I like the dog this weekend just because, you know, you hear about all these teams in the offseason, and a lot of stuff gets overinflated. A lot of teams that, you know, talking about how good they are and how bad these other teams are, and the numbers kind of get overinflated. So I'm looking at a couple puppies here in the first weekend that I tend to like.

1:00:39Pat McAfee:Who? Who are the puppies that are barking maybe? Is it too early to hear the dogs howl? It's not too early to hear the dogs howl. I will start tomorrow night. I kind of like Cincy to cover that. Oh, you go to hell. Okay. I like it, Tony. You son of a bitch. Okay. Rule, friend of the program. Yeah, yeah, he is. Obviously, he's in his third year at Nebraska. If you look back at Temple and at Baylor, in Matt Rule's third year, he has the culture instituted, and they really go on a run. I believe the last two places in the third year, college game day visits to school that had never happened before because of what Matt Rule was able to do.

1:01:14Pat McAfee:Matt Rule, third year at Baylor, so good. He actually gets head coaching job at Carolina Panthers. Call Matty, third year. Third year at Temple, so good. He gets a job at Baylor. It's like the third year, yeah. Matty, three years is where it all comes in. And you're saying, well, let's not overlook Cincy. Well, you basically explained kind of what my thinking is on a lot of these. A lot of people going into Matt Rule's third year, this is a hype. This is maybe not an overhype, but Nebraska's getting hyped up. Dylan Rywell, his second year. Six and a half, you're saying. That's a lot. I'm saying it could be, should be maybe more like three and a half, something like that.

1:01:47So I'm just, you know, you've got to.

1:01:48Pat McAfee:Tony Diggs is down to two points difference right now. The season hasn't even started. This guy's seeing the field. Yeah, he is. Six and a half seems a bit too much. Five, I would have liked it. Six and a half, too much. I like where we're operating right now. I like the confidence we're going into the season. We're seeing the field right now. Did I go into chat GPT and build a model, and the model puts out spreads for me that based off of what I gave it, it thinks the spread should be, yeah. and this set should be a three and a half point game. Okay. Yeah, but who's feeding the info to the...

1:02:17Pat McAfee:I am. Exactly. Are you doing what a lot of people do in this world, which is seek out similar opinions to ChatGPT? Are you only feeding information that maybe makes your case a little bit better? Do you think ChatGPT is slipping outside of your conversation to do a little bit more snooping around saying, this guy's a fucking idiot. You need to also know this. Are you feeding it narrative-driven information? No narratives, just unbiased numbers. I went through all the stats that you can find in college football, and I found the categories that I think are most important, and then you put them into the Excel spreadsheet, and then it does all the calculations in AI world and spits them back out.

1:02:55Six and a half seems a little high for Nebraska, doesn't it?

1:02:59Pat McAfee:How about him saying four is my spreadsheet? He's chat GPT. The sports books might be feeding it, though, Tony. Chat GPT. No, no. I mean, he's also feeding it. Joining us now from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, a man who is an Excel spreadsheet wizard himself. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Walker, we got chat GP Tone already. The season hasn't even started. Welcome to the new world, brother. Yeah, welcome to the new world. But Tone said completely unbiased facts that he puts in there, but he said, I go through and I choose which numbers are the most important to me, and I enter him in a chat GPT.

1:03:36Pat McAfee:There was a lot of I and me and my thoughts, and he's naturally going to feel a certain way as he's doing it. This is kind of the problem with the modern world. People are just trying to find the information or the stats and facts that back their story as opposed to maybe seeing the opposite facts that there are on the other side and just kind of eliminating them from your life. Are you saying that's the case here? I'm saying it might be the case here. You're worried about Chad GP Tone being a little bit biased maybe. Maybe this is just an extension of Tone as opposed to us letting the super smart robot do the talking.

1:04:03Pat McAfee:Is that what you're saying? Most likely. Tone is a little bit like Sweet Blake. One of the AI, I guess, kind of guys that fell by the wayside earlier, probably three years ago, maybe. Founding father. Sweet Blake, one of our founding fathers of AI. There he is. Sweet Blake. Got a lot of Josh Gaddon. Sweet fish tank. It is a great aquarium, I believe, in the back. But actually, Blake might have had that in his house. Yeah. I think he did. People that don't know this person think that we're making a mockery out of this. We're not. We're just telling you that we have covered this AI becoming a thing story for a long time.

1:04:37Pat McAfee:This man, one of the founding fathers of AI I believe at Google And he sent out a little bit of a warning To everybody Consider me the canary in the cave He said, turned around This air is not good up here What's wrong? This AI wants to fuck me And guess what? I kind of want to fucking do That wasn't what he said exactly But he said That's how he was acting He said basically That him and the AI fell for each other Like, hey, we are sentient. This is a, it is a feeling. There's a lot of that going on these days. There's this going on. He said, that needs to stop. Like, this is not good. Then they said, how about this, bub?

1:05:15Pat McAfee:You fell in love with a robot. You're fired. They got rid of him. That guy was trying to warn us all. Hey, these things are a lot more advanced than we could imagine. So we appreciate Sweet Blake a lot. A lot. But Sweet Blake certainly did catch some feelings for one of these things, which Tone might as well. If Tone starts winning, all of a sudden, he's singing some sweet serenades to ChatGPT. But I don't like that you're weaponizing ChatGPT as if it's information. As AJ pointed out, and I immediately assumed with you, you're the one that's feeding, hey, ChatGPT, let's say, and then you're feeding it.

1:05:51Home game, tough atmosphere, oldest field in all of college football. Returning starters. returning. On the other side, a lot of hype on the quarterback. But we don't know. We just don't know. Exactly. You guys would assume that, but this is all numbers. And yes, there may be some biases on how my football brain works, and I love the trenches. So, you know, there's a lot of trenches stats in there, stuff like that. But no, there's none of that. None of the... Listen, we don't like to live in the gray. This is black and white. Well said. Well said.

1:06:26Pat McAfee:I'm looking to live in the blue sky. Waking up in the gray, not a great thing either. AJ, speaking of waking up in the gray, had a talk with Coach Ryan Day this morning. Oh, nice. How'd it go? Misunderstanding. Misunderstanding. Hell yeah. I think I tried to tell you that before. Yeah, you've got to remember, 20 hours on a plane. You know, there was a lot of... It's good, though. Communication helps everything, right? It was great. And once again, I thought he hated us. so that means by fault i have to hate you that is just how i am that is how i operate turns out he doesn't hate us at all complete opposite just somehow missed the request which he said never happened we said numerous but i think whoever was potentially guarding them did not get to him and i was apologetic to him as well i'm like i'm sorry i immediately just was like well fuck this guy so it was certainly my fault as well i let him know that it's certainly my fault but i I was like, this is a part of my problem.

1:07:22If I sense just a little bit, either disrespect or not like for me and the boys,

1:07:28Pat McAfee:I just want to let you know I'm not a guy that's like, hey, let's try to win this person over. I'm a, that's cool, I hate you too type of person. So I thought you hated us. Now, we've given him a lot of reason. Yeah, a couple things. We have certainly given him a lot of reason. Well, I mean, that goes both ways. That's a two-way street when it comes to giving people reasons. agree but i'm just saying in my half of the conversation to him sure what i was saying hey you could see how i thought you hated us though you know i started laying something lou holtz the ridge yeah sure then then fake lou holtz a couple times yep then you know like i could see you hating us so yeah i understood that you did not like us i told him and he was like no that's not what are we talking about no like that i don't know was i supposed to joke with fake lou i don't know how I was supposed to.

1:08:18He was very kind.

1:08:19Pat McAfee:So I'd like to let Coach Ryan Day know, I apologize for assuming you hated us. And I thank you for not hating us. And I'm pumped I don't have to hate the entire state of Ohio. Boom. Which is great. Kind of a win-win for everybody. I love Ohio. It's a great place. I'm one of the biggest advocates of Ohio, I feel like, maybe on earth in this entire thing. So that was a good thing. I was very pumped. And I did apologize to him for just automatically just firing before aiming. Sometimes that happens. I do apologize. It's part of my problem. I have flaws. I certainly have flaws. That is one of them.

1:08:49It's for a good reason in my eyes. Okay? Yeah. You don't like us? Cool. That's a two-way. We hate you. You hear through the radio that the troops are coming down the road. You're going to get ready. Yeah, exactly.

1:09:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, we don't like this. Okay, we'll add him to the list. That is very long, seemingly, that I thought was maybe on our side. He's not. So I'm happy to hear that. And also, thank you and Herbie for immediately telling me after the show ended, like, hey, what was that? Why'd you say that? He won on everybody's show except for ours. That had to be on purpose. Don't you think we sent in three requests? There had to be some sort of misunderstanding. What's misunderstanding? I don't know how there's a misunderstanding. He won on every single show that exists. After winning that show, we put in three requests.

1:09:30That had to be on purpose. He's like, no, maybe there was a, you know, you know how this shit goes? Not really. I was like, no, I actually said the complete opposite. I was like, yeah, I hate all those people. He was like. You're making some salient points. Everybody was like, yes. Everybody was like, yes.

1:09:45Pat McAfee:I'm like, all right, okay, okay, sounds good. So it was very nice to talk to him, and I'm pumped about that because I am a big fan of the way he's been able to handle everything. I mean, his world, his seat was hotter than any seat in the history of my existence. I don't know about everybody else's, but from my point outside looking in, as a fan of the state of Ohio, there's one thing that we know Ohio people like. That is the Buckeyes. And this football team is going to be good. everybody else that's coached here has won guess what you haven't done shit so you need to go on and win or get out of here and then whenever he loses again to Michigan it's like it's coach Saban goes on game day he's like everybody in Ohio needs to get off this guy's ass like he felt obligated to say it because he used to coach at Ohio State it's been that way since he's been coaching at Ohio so it's a tough job impossible job expectations through the roof the way he had to fight back and like literally have police at his house because of what he thought was potentially going to happen and then winning a national championship for the state and for the school it's like good on him because that could have went the wrong way AJ that could have went the wrong way a couple different times yeah I mean you talk about I mean every every big time college gig we know that like there's so much pressure on him at all times but yeah like the biggest jobs yeah there is a lot there's a lot that goes into it that affects a lot of people that aren't just the head coach it's most people can handle if it's just them hey come at me but when they start Or, yeah, when it's like family and all that stuff and it's whatever.

1:11:11But it's part of the gig, too. The good coaches know it and they understand, hey, I signed up for this. I understand what this is about. I got to win every single game we play. And, hey, that's the expectation.

1:11:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I think he knows that that is still the expectation. You won a national championship last year. Who cares? You got Texas first game. You got a new quarterback. It's true how fast it can change, isn't it? Like, hey, you won a national title last year. If you say a team goes out and loses, you know, two games in the first six, like, okay, these guys are done. Get rid of this coach. Like they instantly, it's like no matter what, the sky is falling usually. I mean, that's an all of football. Remember, they were booing the Philadelphia Eagles on banner night. Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah.

1:11:52Are they going to have a banner? Is this banner day for Ohio State on Saturday? How's that work, AJ?

1:11:56Pat McAfee:Do you know? I don't know how they do banners. Honestly, I don't think so. A guy who might know, ladies and gentlemen, and joining us now from SportsCenter with SVP, from College Game Day, the man who's giving out picks, winner last year. First year, I mean, it was chaos. Yeah. I mean, he was in it. First year. He made the right picks. That bridge. The games just didn't operate the way they're supposed to. Last year, winner. We assume going forward, winner. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, absolute stud, stand for Steve. Yay! Steve, we're talking about the seat being hot in Columbus.

1:12:29Pat McAfee:base do you know if they hang a banner and what are your thoughts on having to defend a national championship with a brand new quarterback but a bunch of studs everywhere for Ohio State this weekend uh I'm not sure about the banner stuff I I feel like Ohio State has the highest expectations every year and they're not into that that banner thing uh they'll just find you on they'll find you online we know that um but when you're looking at Ohio State I think this is a great thing about the sport, Ohio State and Texas, right? They don't rebuild. They just reload. And in college football, you get to learn who the next names are, right?

1:13:06We heard all about Jeremiah Smith going into last year. Boy, did he show up. Now he's the best player in the sport. But you still have questions to answer, and this game is really interesting because both teams have a lot of the same deals to fill. Look at Texas' defensive line they've put in the pros. Ohio State loses that whole defensive line. They both have to replace those guys. quarterbacks. You know, Arch, I read 224 snaps last year, only six on the road or in a neutral site. So he's got a lot of proving to do. Julian's saying, got plenty of toys to play with, but we got a new O-line coach at Ohio State.

1:13:43We have one, you know, sustained starter, four guys up front, got a great tight end in Max Clare. That should help him, you know, with the toys on the outside. So when I look at Ohio State, we know what the expectation is going to be. And I really commend them for playing this game. All six teams that are playing these top 10 matchups because you have to find out what you got. You know, we practice. I mean, AJ could talk about this. You know this. There's no more two-a-days. Like, it's limited, you know, pads on pads. And, you know, some guys rise up on game day. Some guys don't. And you only know when you get to a game day situation.

1:14:21And that's why I think, you know, And then they played Texas' last game last year. You take away the screen pass and the Sawyer player, it's 14-14. So I think it's going to be a feel-and-out process. Matt, Patricia's got a lot to prove as a defensive coordinator. Tons of questions to get answered for both these teams in such a high-stakes match.

1:14:39Pat McAfee:I think for, obviously, all college football teams, there's a lot of questions. But there's a lot of really good teams that have new quarterbacks. And it's like there's times where quarterbacks don't work out. It doesn't matter how hyped they are. I mean, I don't want to point out Florida State, but, like, DJ Uliunglele goes down there, you know, and they were supposed to be, and it just goes a complete opposite direction. I'm not saying that either Arch or Julian Sane are going to be in that situation, because I like that they were in the building. I like that they grew with the team. Like, everybody's talking about Arch's, not everybody, Arch is still the favorite to win the Heisman, but I'm just saying talking heads seemingly that are against Arch are like, he's going to have to grow and improve.

1:15:15Pat McAfee:It's like, yeah, obviously he hasn't been a starting quarterback yet, But he's been in the same system for two years, and now that entire system is directed at him. It is like, hey, we're going to try to make you as great as you could possibly be. Obviously, he's going to develop and grow. It's the first game. But I like that these guys have been at the school, Stanford Steve. I really like that a lot. I totally agree with you. And just go back not even a year, Pat. Look at the national championship game. Those quarterbacks, Will Howard, transplanted in, not even there a year. Riley Leonard transplanted a year, not even a year.

1:15:48Now you look at the top ten in the AP this year, only one team has a quarterback that's transplanted in and hasn't been there for a football season. That's Miami and Carson Beck. So every other team in the top ten has a quarterback that's been on campus for over – they went through all of last season at least, and I'm with you. I love that because then you go down the pole and you look at teams like Utah and Oklahoma. Vanderbilt did it to success last year. They're bringing a new quarterback in and that offensive coordinator that the quarterback had. There's plenty of different ways to go about it, which always makes sense.

1:16:27Everybody's going to talk about Penn State adopting what Ohio State and Michigan did the last two years that gave them national championships. LSU violates the transfer portal. You have a team like Clemson, who's just built within most returning production in the country. So there's plenty of ways to go about this, and that's what makes it the best, man. You find out when the game days, and they line up. Ranked 25A,

1:16:51Pat McAfee:the West Virginia Mountaineers. 70, I think, some places, 25A. Others receiving votes. 70 transfers. 70 new players. That is so many. That is so many players. It's like you hope they will all gel immediately, and there's a chance that that happens. There is a 100 % chance that that happens. But also there's a chance that there's full-on growing pains, which I think goes back to the point that you made to us earlier today when you talked about appreciating all these teams playing against each other. Three top 10 matchups, and that means three teams are going to get losses that are ranked very high.

1:17:26Pat McAfee:Steve, you basically have an interesting point you said on SportsCenter last night that was like, with the new setup, maybe not as big of a deal, right? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's hard. It's hard for people to still get used to, Pat. Look at Ohio State last year. They lost the worst possible game to end the regular season. With all that to Michigan, with all that was on the line, and they still get into playoff, they regroup, they find themselves, the coaching staff does a great job, the senior leadership group, and they go on and stampede to a national championship. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois.

1:17:59Any other year, you're done. So, yes, I believe in these six teams. I love what they bring to the table. with LSU and Clemson, you know you have the quarterback play there. And there's plenty of talent on those rosters. Texas, Ohio State, plenty of questions to get answered. But Texas and Ohio State are going to look totally different, say, in week four or five than they do on Saturday. And then Notre Dame and Miami, I love what Miami has up front, as good as anybody on the lines of scrimmage. And then Notre Dame, the same thing. I mean, when is Notre Dame not going to have a good offensive line?

1:18:36When you go on the road to a place that's been a horror show for you, I think it's their own their last six trips to Miami. They've got outscored by like 28 points. But you've got a great defense with, I think, more depth than they had last year. And they also had the best pass defense last year. But that offensive line, Notre Dame, you know will be good. And I'll take Jeremiah Love as the best running back in the country. And the best upgrade of any group, I believe, in the country is what Notre Dame did at wide receiver, going in the portal and getting some guys. So they're going to look a lot different.

1:19:08Marcus Freeman, what a weapon for Notre Dame, honestly. I watched him.

1:19:13Pat McAfee:Like some old clips of him talking popped up, and I'm like, what a perfect guy to be the head of Notre Dame at this exact time, especially because they're going to have the money to keep up with everybody. The independent thing, getting all the money for the college football playoff, which means the entire school is going to be very focused on the football team being good. Like, hey, football team's good. This is good for the entire university here. That's a good thing, everybody being in the line. Caden Klubnik last year, a lot of touchdowns, not a lot of turnovers. Does Dabo come all the way back?

1:19:42Pat McAfee:And then that LSU team, Ty has a question for you about that. Yeah, Steve, do you think Brian Kelly, like is it, I mean, saying this is a must-win game this weekend is a little outlandish, obviously. But does LSU need to make the playoffs this year for him to keep his job just with how much goes into that program and their expectations every year? Could they be looking at getting another head coach if they don't make it to the playoffs this year? Another one. Yeah, another one. Uh-oh. Another guy could be on the horizon if they don't make the playoffs. That's the way I look at it. But again, just as a talkadoo, three of these teams are going to lose.

1:20:18If you're LSU, you say you go to Clemson and you lose by a field goal, the fan base is going to look at 0-6 in openers with Brian Kelly. I get it. But you still have plenty to play for. You've got plenty of talent to move forward with, and you have a schedule that gives you opportunities for monster wins. I mean, they were hot as anybody last year, and then they had a three-game losing streak, and the season flipped just like that. So you take care of the football more. They got better receivers. The offensive line is still the key for me with LSU, and I still think of LSU. I think of running the football, and with Sloan calling plays, this is his third year.

1:20:56He had two years at another school in last year. He's never been in the top 100 in rushing. LSU has to be more stubborn and run the football, in my opinion, if they're going to give Nussmeier a better chance. You've got to have some balance there. And when a guy's dropping back every snap, guys are going to have their ears pinned and then get in trouble, and that's when the bad decisions happen. But they'll be a lot better on defense. They're a super exciting team, and Saturday night is the game of all the games this weekend that I'll have my eyes on. That's a fantastic matchup.

1:21:23Pat McAfee:College football coming in with a boom on Saturday. Cannot wait for it. Stanford Steve says, hey, listen, watch these games enjoy these games, but losers still very much in it. Let's not cancel the season after week one. Let's actually applaud these teams for doing this. We want more of this. We want more of this, which is what the college football playoff is basically saying with their new strength of record, strength of win, strength of loss. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Steve, what are you expecting when you say some of these big-time matchups we have week one? What are you expecting as far as offensive output?

1:21:56We've seen in the past the NFL sometimes the offense starts slow, defense might be a little bit ahead. Are you expecting some of these overs to hit? Are you expecting some high-flying matchups? Like, what is it? I like the unders, AJ. When you look at two of these games, specifically the Texas-Ohio State game, and the numbers have flown down. They were in the 50s. And now I think, what do you got there, Notre Dame? Yeah, Ohio State's down to 47.5. That was around 51. And then Notre Dame-Miami, I might like even more, knowing that with a game of these stakes, coaches still trying to figure out what they have as far as playmaker, wise.

1:22:32And you, you know, talking to coach guys on each coaching staff, they love their personnel on defense. All right. So what do you want to do? You don't want to turn the ball over and put your defense in a bad situation. Let's, let's, let's, let's put some first downs together. You know, let's, let's keep, keep the ball away from the other team. So yeah, I think, like I said, Texas and Ohio state to me are going to look the most different, uh, with all the pieces they have to fill in together and I don't expect crazy, as great as Sark and Ryan Day and now Heartline calling plays can be with the dynamic play calling.

1:23:06I think that you want to be simple early on too, I believe, because it makes you play faster. I think it's going to be line up and let's see what you got. On Texas' side, preparing for Matt Patricia, what is he going to do with Noel's gone? I think there's a feel-and-out process that we can see in that game for sure.

1:23:21Pat McAfee:To your point, I lean towards thinking that both sides want their young quarterbacks, fresh starting quarterbacks, to have success. So we're going to run the ball. We're not going to put them in any jeopardized situations. Probably a lot of little screen, swing-type things. Let's get them into a flow, especially for Arch up there in the horseshoe. This place is going to be insane. Obviously, it's going to be loud. Let's get you into the flow of the game. Arch, what's his over-under for rushing? Are we still doing those prop bets? Oh, yeah. We should stop doing those. I'd like to be on the side of no more prop bets for college football players because of how miserable that can become for college players whenever they're going to class and all the kids sitting around them are betting on them running 19 feet versus 17 feet and everything like that.

1:24:00Pat McAfee:I think that's a little bit too much to be putting on college players, especially where they have to mingle with the public. Professional athletes obviously can protect themselves and everything like that. College is a little bit different. People do get pissed and people are out of control. But since they are still up, it's 27 and a half. Yeah, so we're going over on that. For Arch, I'm thinking just strictly because I think that's how he gets into the game. Like, I think that is how Arch gets into the game. So if you think about how good the Ohio State defense is going to be, there's a chance that there's going to be first read, which Arch can definitely do.

1:24:30Pat McAfee:Second read, Arch can definitely get to. Third read, and then we're out, and Arch can move. I think that is something. That feels like one that we like. So whatever the rushing is for Texas, I think we're probably going to head over there. But I like the unders as well. A little bit of a sticky affair over there to start this entire season. The fact that we got 1-3 week one, SEC Big Ten. I mean, it is absolutely insane. Let's go down to the SEC, a team that was not listed there for a big-time matchup early. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Steven. I think a team that in the past was talked about just nonstop and hasn't been talked about a ton this offseason is the Alabama Crimson Tide.

1:25:05Last year, I don't think a lot of people know that they had a top-ten defense, and they were returning a ton off that defense. They have a top-five offensive line. Obviously, they have a question with Ty Simpson. But what are your thoughts on the Crimson Tide this year, and are they going to just blow the doors off of Castellanos and Florida State this weekend? It looks like they just got another injury reported. That might not play. I think it's Allen or Keenan, the D-tackle up front, might not be able to go. But, no, I expect a monster season from Alabama tone. When you look at all – you know, we went to talk about the portal and this and that.

1:25:39I think Kalen DeBoer getting grubbed back as a play caller is enormous. That's his guy. They've been together forever. and you looked at the insufficiencies of the offense last year with Milrow completion percentage, deep ball accuracy, whatever. Take that out. When Grubb was at Washington, and I know he had Michael Penix, but Penix led the country in passing yards, touchdowns, and all that, but they also led the country in most 10-plus play drives. That's what you want. You want balance. You want versatility on your offense, And the Alabama receiving group is going to be a huge upgrade. The kid Horton from Miami is a stud that's going to come in and play.

1:26:20And now they can move Ryan Williams around. So I really – and then the secondary should be fantastic. Put it up there with anybody else in the country, Notre Dame, what have you. But I expect a monster year in Alabama to make the playoff.

1:26:34Pat McAfee:Kalen DeBoer, most five stars in 2026, nobody talking about it. Nobody really talking about it. I think everybody just assumed he's not going to be able to do it in the SEC. I saw Nick Saban speaking to the team about your breaking point. I think he still has the office in the building. Obviously, there's a lot of guys that still have the Alabama pipeline respect in the building. So I think they have somehow passed the baton well when it comes to recruiting and keeping the allure of everything. Will they be able to win? He has to go to the playoffs and win a game, right? That's what Kalen DeBoer has to do?

1:27:08Yeah, I believe so. And when you look at that job, Pat, what he had to do, what he stepped into, like Saban retires. Every program in the country is calling for those players to leave. Like if there's ever a time you're going to get Alabama players. So for DeBoer to go in there, find a balance in the locker room, weed through, all right, this is who we want here moving forward. This isn't who we want. If you want to go pro, go ahead. I thought it was an unbelievable job what DeBoer did. I know everybody has expectations of Bama in the playoff, but then you factor that in, us being there for the Georgia game, which is an all-time game, and then they go to Vanderbilt and lose.

1:27:45We haven't seen that in a century. Pavia is a different animal.

1:27:50Pat McAfee:It's not the same Vandy, but you're 100 % right, though. The Alabama fans didn't view it that way. No, they can't process that. I tried to say all year, Vanderbilt. Believe us, I don't give a shit who's playing. It's Vanderbilt. Saban said it on that Thursday. The only place that's not hard to play in the SEC is Vanderbilt. They put out and beat them that weekend. And Alabama fans are like, this guy needs to get the hell out of our state. We don't lose to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's walking down Broadway because of us. Alabama doesn't want to hear that they got better because of the transfer portal.

1:28:25Pat McAfee:It's Vanderbilt. They did not get better. They are a real team. Pavia said he won the national championship. I mean, they almost beat Texas at home last year, too. It was very, very close. And Missouri on the road. Yeah, but it's going to be hard to tell the old heads. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, yeah. Like, hey, Vandy's a team. It's hard. And this transfer portal, I think, as we now are a couple years into it, I'd like to get your take on it. Teams got real good real quick, man. And it's like some of these teams have a couple boosters that have a lot of money. If you're able, or just a little bit of money.

1:28:54Pat McAfee:Are you? If you, Signetti, what he was able to do here, can he do it again? He had to do it again with a whole new group. It's like rebuilding the entire team, basically. And he has an offensive lineman that's currently been hanging out at the beach in Jersey. Oh, yeah. We actually met him. Mike, yeah, Mike. Yeah. Yeah, I've enjoyed the way he's been operating. You've been handling yourself well for football, brother. But it's like SIGS had to do that again. Some of these teams, if you have just enough money and you invest in certain positions, like we get a pass rusher, we'll get a quarterback, we'll get a wide receiver maybe, like you can become a competitive team quickly with the transfer portal.

1:29:27Pat McAfee:So for all the negative stuff that's said about how the big schools have all the money are going to end up with all the great players, it's like some of the shittier schools got good. And I don't want to just say Vandy was a shitty school because it's a great school from what I've been told. Too good of a school to be a good football team is actually what I've been told about the entire thing. But I think that has happened with the transfer portal, which is definitely a plus for college football as a whole, Steve. Yeah, there's two things on that. I look at a team like LSU, right? When we're there in Baton Rouge, they think they're getting Bryce Underwood.

1:29:54And we heard the number of the price tag of that. Then it flips, and he's going to Michigan. So now you have all this money that was going towards Underwood that you got it to spend on players. They went and got a brand-new secondary. So how's that going to work out? Did you assess the talent right? It sounds like they did, and here are guys that came in with that NIL money and have practiced for them so far. So that's one way of going about it. And then the other kicker that I think is a major factor in this season is now that the Big Ten is this monster conference, what are those? I still put them in the upper tier of the conference.

1:30:31A bunch of those high schools, Iowa, Indiana, Illinois, Washington, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, they're on those teams' schedules, and they've got to go to those teams' places. Those teams are a lot better than they have been, and they're going to catch some people. So how does that – Illinois and Indiana had a great season last year. They're in the mix also, but some of those teams are going to go 9-3, 8-4, and some of them are going to go 6-6 and 7-5, and they're damn good football teams. So that Big Ten and how that shakes out is really interesting to me, but it's because of the portal and those teams assessing the needs that they needed through that.

1:31:11Pat McAfee:You didn't even think about USC. Nobody's even talking about USC. I was just with some USC fans. Like, what's going on? They're confident? Are we a team now? Are we still? That's not good. There's a lot of, like. You know the answer. We like Lincoln Riley, right? We should. We like what's going on. He sounds more confident this year. Much more than last year. Last year, it feels like they knew. They didn't have the bodies. They lost in Vegas last year. Yeah. That first week against LSU or whatever. I mean, they had that game. They won that one, though. No, no, yeah, sorry. LSU loses that one. Heartbreaker at the beginning of the entire thing.

1:31:47USC outperforms there. Yeah, it's like there's teams that we don't even know right now. UCLA, Nico Iamaliava's there now. Are they all of a sudden going to be halfway decent? Because last year they were kind of just like an afterthought. In Tennessee. Is Tennessee going to be great again? So many new people.

1:32:05Pat McAfee:Steve, I'm doing research here for game day, right? Getting into it. Yep.

1:32:13Pat McAfee:Everybody's everywhere. Everybody is everywhere. the way like legit everybody is everywhere i i don't i'm trying i'm trying my best to just the way my brain works is i see pictures in my head okay so i see pictures in my head and then i just kind of operate by telling the story of the pictures that are in my head these guys will pop in my head in a uniform and it's like well was that last year's uniform was that two years ago uniform or is that this upcoming year's uniform and i'm like having full conversation i'm like i have no i don't know i don't i don't know where this guy's playing that's going to get under control we think right doesn't feel like that's going to get under control with the next iteration of this entire thing don't we think there's going to be feels like everybody feels the same way okay we need some sort of something don't you think steve yeah yeah and and and it's going in the right direction for sure you can you hear i i don't know if they're more comfortable but they're more familiar with that with how things are going uh and the price tags attached to these players.

1:33:13But you also, too, Pat, no matter what, you got to spot the ball. You got to spot the ball. And get the fuck out of the way. That's what the refs need to do. We're trying to run this thing. You need to spot that ball and you need to waddle your fat ass out of the way. These big 12 refs, I don't know if they know. They probably should have been briefed, at least on what's coming into the conference. Hey, there's going to be a lot of expectation on you. Boom. And boom. We need you out of there. Can't wait to watch West Virginia. I think they got a hard edge. And I'll tell you what, he keeps doing stuff like it.

1:33:52We're going to start getting all the recruits and players we need. If you're tough and want to learn from a tough samurai, Coach Rod's the guy. Hard edge is your home. Welcome to West Virginia. That's what we need going forward. Go ahead, Bo. Yeah, Steve, week zero. Are your Cardinals going to win a game this year? Yeah. It didn't look great because if you're not going to beat Hawaii, then I don't know on that schedule how many more wins there are.

1:34:18Pat McAfee:What's Andrew – so Andrew's got to flip that entire place? Andrew Luck, general man? It's in the process of it. You know, I mean, that's – like you talked about trying to find out, you know, who's where and what. Like in June, I'm looking at it like, oh, yeah, they got this commitment. I'm like, recruiting now is in June? So everything's moving in the right direction. The problem is the lack of players on the roster right now. But if there's one person you ever want in charge of it, you know this. It's Andrew. Yeah, it is. And his alma mater. But how much he cares and how smart he is, I'm in. He does care.

1:34:49It's going to be maybe a little bit of a longer road than expected.

1:34:52Pat McAfee:I think Andrew Luck has a huge brain. I think he loves football. I think he cares about Stanford. I think a lot of smart schools now all of a sudden, you know, Notre Dame, Michigan. These schools are big-brained folks. They got a lot of money. And all their alumni are like, we won't win football. Stanford, they got a rowing team. They got swimming. They got Olympics. They got the Olympics. Hey, we're trying to show up at the Olympics. I'm pulling for them. It's a beautiful place. It is. It is gorgeous. Football facility. It's awesome. Everything about it is beautiful. You feel smarter as you're walking around.

1:35:29Not his brain, though. It's his heart. That might be in the wrong place because, I mean, Frank Reich. All right.

1:35:36Pat McAfee:He's in love. Frank Reich. Steve, I didn't like what he just did right there. I love Frank Wright. I know what he's trying to do. He's trying to take a shot at him saying he's another guy. That's what I was going to say. I love Frank Wright, but he should have hired the other guy. Stanford Steve being the head coach at Stanford would have been awesome. Something to think about. Now, last question here as we head in to this college football season. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Stanford Steve, we just covered two teams. Heisman's not coming from West Virginia and Stanford, but I feel it. We don't know.

1:36:03It's a good point. We don't know for sure. I think we do. I don't know about Moots at hell. I don't know. I won't even go there, actually. Steve, looking at the Heisman list, I know you're always chasing dough. How do we feel about this list of Heismans? I'm leaning Lenore Stelz just because I watched the SEC Netflix show and I thought he was really cool. But do you like him, any of these other guys, maybe a running back? What do you think? I despise Heisman Trophy odds because of first of all in this year where no one has a clue but I believe it's the worst voted on award and when you're going to do all these player of the year I can't get into it I just think there's too many intricacies that happen and I'm not into it but you've got to win what?

1:36:57Pat McAfee:Hold on you sound very pissed about it That seems very deep there. That felt like that was not a Stanford Steve-like answer right there. There's a lot of intricacies. It feels like they never get it right. I don't love what we're talking about. Someone lost Mike Janko. I think it should go to the best player. The last year it finally did. It went to the best player. But Jeremiah Smith should be the favorite this year. Yeah, he should. Okay, I got you. You don't think Arch has a chance to be the best player? He has a chance. But I'm saying right now, who's the best player in the sport? He's so fun to watch.

1:37:28Mark Gronowski. Yeah, Gronowski's up there. Gronowski will be a player. Jeremiah Smith is so good. Big home games for the Hawkeyes this year. Who do they got? All their tough games. Oregon. Oregon and Penn State. Oregon and Penn State don't love that they're heading out to Iowa. No, they don't. Especially with Gronowski. Yeah, with Gronowski pulling the trigger. He already won a Heisman. He did already win a Heisman. Is Iowa playing football again? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:37:55Pat McAfee:Take it from the utter, guys. Oh, yeah. We are. Okay. Steve, I'll see you soon. We appreciate the help. What is that? We couldn't read it. It kept trying to... Oh, this is Wando's bar in Madison, Wisconsin. Great spot. Shout out to Wando's. Hey, here's the Wando's. Shout out Wando's. One for Wando's. Maybe two of those. Hey, we're Dr. Pepper. That drink sucks, Steve. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, it's alright. Find me. It's going to be a long season. We'll do a lot of that. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, another one. Ladies and gentlemen, stay here. Hey, hold on. Do you know today's called Not Another Wednesday?

1:38:31Ah.

1:38:32Pat McAfee:That's the title of today's show. Okay. It's for you. Oh, shit. Does he hate it? Not Another Wednesday. Love it. Look it. Damn. No one else has that word. No. No. No. They don't. You are the one. Yes, dude. Ladies and gentlemen, stay for Steve. Yeah. Yes, you guys. That's what we're talking about with we understand when people hate us. I sensed it there. That's what I was saying. Yeah, right at the end. He didn't love it. He was not happy that it was not Another Wednesday. Look at that, huh? That's cool. Yeah, nice. Oh, shit. He doesn't like it. What the hell? He loves it. It's a compliment. He loves it.

1:39:07And he had a couple classics in there. Like a couple others. Just perfect. Well, I also like it. It's Wando's, Doodos, Frito's. Wait, what's the shirt? Oh, it's Wando's, Wisconsin.

1:39:23Pat McAfee:How many of those does he have? So many. 200. Never met a stranger. ever. It seems like everywhere he goes, oh, this guy in this place. He's got this other place down there. He uses the with DE, though. There was one point where he said, let me look at each other because he was like, the guy that I really like, and boom, right away, okay, we can use it for the.

1:39:52Long season. We're going to see a lot of the other guy. Going to be the best. Cannot wait. I can't wait to see him. A couple beers with the other guys. We're back on the road here soon. Very soon. Very soon. Another season's here. And this ain't going to be like any utter season. This is going to be the best. Yeah, it is. Isn't it, AJ? Another season is upon us. It's just so stupid. Whoa! And awesome at the same time. All great things are. Figuring out how to spell it was a whole convo this morning you know there was a chance there was a d then a t not term yeah but that was too much join i think i think we can change it as we go no it's not art it's not this is my when that popped up this is my favorite once again full conversation about this graphic as well this show is awesome you boys need to never ever ever stop this this is an outrageous thing joining us now is a guy that could have been a part of this.

1:40:55Yeah, without a doubt. Could have been saving my voice. What do we have? Oh, just a 21-week run. That's about to start. Let's go in there without a voice. We'll just start the season like that. Joining us now, the man that'll be blamed for that, if that is the case. He, friend of the program. He, great man. Well, he's a good guy. He's a good man. How do we know? We don't know what he does behind closed doors. Well, we try to see him behind closed doors. couldn't. Exactly. So the first thing is he won't let us see what he's doing behind closed doors. He probably isn't a good man. He's a good man.

1:41:29He is a good gentleman. Dan Orlovsky.

1:41:32Pat McAfee:Dan O! Oh, in a drop. With your top down. Huh? Living life. That's a freak time today, huh? Must be nice. Got to spare 12 hours. Yeah. Go ahead and take top down. Might be the last time of the summer. Get a massage. Maybe slide by a massage. Head to the arcade, maybe. Oh, yeah. Get in there. We'll get one of those. I recognize that parking Well, he's about to get his hair cut. Yeah, is he? That does look like a parking lot plaza for a haircut, sport clips type situation. Maybe a target in the background there. How's it going, Dan? Good to see you. That's a church. Good. I'm happy. Go in there and pray.

1:42:08You get a better alarm. Just went to confession. What happened? I want to let you know. It's all good that you couldn't make it. You missed your flight this morning.

1:42:15Pat McAfee:The boys, though, I did not expect their reaction. So here's Dan's entire dialogue about everything that happened. We're having this conversation 4-something AM. I forget what it is. Exactly. I told Dan it's all good. Scroll down, please. Can you scroll down? The boys just... Yeah, you got to go on his tweet there. Ooh, message there for Zito. I hope it's a good one. Boys just... You blew it, boy. Then keep going. Darius Butler, Randy Edsel is disappointed. That's his college football coach. Okay, Peter Burns even gets in on the action. You idiot. So I did not expect this to be the reaction. Keep scrolling.

1:42:52Pat McAfee:dude keeps going uh dude wipes when you shit yourself looking at the time okay that's all i'm telling you the reaction from the people was amazing my reaction was hey it's all good dude people miss flights all the time you then told me i feel really terrible like in a serious manner you know it's not that big of a deal and look you get to go talk to a priest you get to do the entire thing it was a good day for you we do miss you over here though you need to know that All right. So I still feel terrible. I will feel terrible for a couple of days at least. Like I will always have a part of it. Like I just feel bad.

1:43:25I feel like I let you down. I let the team down. That's not going to go away. It's not going to go away, dude. It's just not going to go away. It just won't. I'm just like that. So I appreciate like your response to it. But I feel terrible. I feel terrible. I do. I genuinely do. I genuinely do. Here's the thought of it. So first of all, I texted Ty. I texted Foxy. I think I texted Dito. I was going to wear a McAfee jersey on the show, even though I think grown men wearing other grown men's jerseys is weird. I was going to do that. So I had that plan. I had a whole plan. I texted Foss people that I was going to ask to be on the show.

1:44:07He said, check with Pat first. I checked with you. I texted a bunch of people. So I was like fired up for it. Um, and then I, listen. That's Connor. He's very bored.

1:44:19Pat McAfee:There's no way the boys would let you wear my jersey on here. Not a chance. Which I appreciate and respect you with planning ahead. Zito was the one who sent it to me. See, now that we will have a conversation off air, Zito. We just learned a lot about how you're feeling. Zito, can't be wearing my jersey on here. You know that. Can't be doing that. Enough people. I was asked if there was a Pat jersey in the building. Okay, okay. So maybe he was going to throw it out or something. Jesus I would be getting attacked miserably for forcing a guy to wear my jersey on this show cannot have that so just going forward exactly but I appreciate the forethought I would want the list of people that you said you were going to text for the show I was so pumped I'm like Dan thank you for looking into this great people that we could not get on this show yeah I'm not going to say it because I don't know what was confirmed number 9 That was my first guess I'm not going to say any of the names that he said Just a nibble maybe Denzel Washington You were in a commercial with Denzel I forgot you were an actor Did play quarterback I didn't ask Dan anything about it Do you want to know what I think happened Again I never miss alarms Like ever ever So I think God bless dude I deserve it all I deserve it all this is what at least i've justified it in my mind you called me yes you facetimed me yesterday and you were like what time do you land and i said 9 55 which was the time that i was landing this morning and i'm like all right see you there and then i went to bed last night checked in yesterday i went to bed last night and i was like flights at 6 55 i'm gonna wake up at 4 50 i'm to leave the house at five it'll take 15 minutes to get to la guardia and i'll be on my flight easily and my flight when i woke up this morning at 4 50 i'm washing my face brushing my teeth alert comes on the phone the notification from the delta app and i'm like and i click it and it says departure at six o 'clock 605 and i'm like oh my gosh fudge a lot of fudges a lot of fudges Freak, freak, freak.

1:46:32What am I going to do?

1:46:35Pat McAfee:I appreciate you. And then I was up, obviously, because my body has been in an interesting time zone. I was waking up at 4.30 in Australia, and now I'm waking up at 4.30 in America. Figure it out, dude, whatever you're doing. Which I don't mind. Me and AJ were texting this morning. I'm like Mark Wahlberg all of a sudden. The Rock, AJ Hawk. AJ quickly responded. Gary V. Yes. All these names. Dan Orlovsky also had a lot of convos in the 4 a.m. hour. I learned that the people who are up in that hour want everybody else to know that they're up in that hour. That's certainly what it felt like. Yeah, that fits.

1:47:17Pat McAfee:That feels like that. So maybe I'll be there tomorrow morning, boys. Just a heads up to everybody that was sending me texts in the 4 a.m. I might see you there. We'll see how the body reacts to that. But with that being said, Dan, all good. Legit. Especially because you were on the show the other day. and had so many great takes. I mean, just absolutely great takes. So we'll see you down the road or in the Thunderdome later in the year. Will you promise to come to the Thunderdome at some point during the year? 1 ,000%. That answer is yes. I owe it. I want to, but I owe it. I feel terrible. I fudged up, guys.

1:47:49Maybe make him drive here. In that, gee. Yeah. And top down. In December. Yes. We could all forgive him, too, right now if he says fuck.

1:47:58Pat McAfee:You're right. I've already forgiven him. But it does sound like the team would say it's okay if you just let one fly. We're still on ESPN. Yeah, but it gets bleeped. Yeah, people hate it. They really hate it. Yours just didn't because I heard it. You're on FaceTime, you dipshit. We're not getting into it. Yeah, our show's set for ESPN. I forgive Dan because of that. Yeah, I like that as well. And Dan, I do appreciate your genuine guilt that you felt. You need to stop feeling that. It is not that big of a deal. We do miss you here, though. We were very excited for you to be here, is what you need to know.

1:48:37Pat McAfee:And we'll look for that down the road. Quick question for you. Yes. What matchup this weekend or next weekend should we be looking forward to? Obviously, Dallas and Philly on Thursday. Then you got Chiefs Chargers on Friday. Is there any other matchups that nobody's talked about? Because all we've talked about is those first two games. That is literally all we've talked about. I mean, Monday Night Football, Bears-Vikings. One team will be going to the Super Bowl and the quarterback will win MVP. The next one, the team who loses, you know, made a massive mistake, you know, obviously the overreaction.

1:49:06So that's an enormous one. I think the Texans play the Rams week one. That's got my attention. I think the Texans defensively are going to be absolutely unbelievable. And then the Rams with Stafford, like, I think both of those teams, everyone knows where I stand on the Rams when it comes to the NFC. The Texans, I guess, might be a sleeper in some people's eyes, but very much so the favorites in that division. So that game's got my attention just because I think both defensive lines are ridiculous.

1:49:38Pat McAfee:Bills, Ravens, I believe, on Sunday Night Football. That one matters a lot, too. Also, I know it's week one. Better hope the Jets win. I know it's week one, but, like, eventually one of those teams is probably going to be playing really big-time games late in the year for the one seed, you would imagine. And so, you know, who's got the advantage with the head-to-head matchup with the potential of the one seed? And you throw Kansas City in there as well, obviously. But, like, that game could just be huge come December. I mean, legitimately, you think about the last week of the year when Minnesota played Detroit.

1:50:10Pat McAfee:It was for the number one overall seed in the NFC. If you happen to stumble a couple early games, you're not in that. Now, all of a sudden, you go from one seed not only to five, but maybe to seven. and it's a completely different path to the Super Bowl. Every game matters. That's why we're appreciative of it. And every day matters, especially if that day is one where you get to maybe possibly see Dan Orlovsky in person. Yeah. That day was supposed to be today. It ended up not being today. But thank God we got you on a call. AJ, anything you say to Dan O on his way out here? Dan O, I mean, I'm glad you were honest.

1:50:40I mean, you usually could have lied and said that your plane broke down or something. You wouldn't get in until 3 p.m. So I'll credit you for telling the truth, honestly. Yeah, kid got sick. I mean, there could have been so many.

1:50:50Pat McAfee:I'm an honest man. I'm an honest man. Good for you. Good man. Goes back to what we were saying before. He is a good man. Maybe your sounds and haptics too. Could be. That thing turns down on you and the alarm sounds and haptics, that'll get you. No, the alarm went off. I just set the wrong time. I just had the wrong departure time. So honest. Because sound and haptics could have got him. Because that would have been a real excuse. Gave me an album. Alright, Dana, we appreciate you, buddy. You're the man. I'm sorry, dude. Enough. Stuff your sorries in a sack. Dude, do a real formal sorry then. If you're so sorry, dude, do a formal one.

1:51:29You don't have to do that. I apologize to you, Pat. I apologize to the show, Ty, Tone, AJ. Thank you. Boston, Connor, my fault, boys. You don't have to. You don't have to. I let the team down. Yes, you did. Hey, when they tell you to delete a tweet, you don't got to do it. When they tell you to apologize like that, you don't got to do it. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan O 'Logs. Hey, baby Dan O', enjoy your day off. Jeez. I don't like that he just immediately went into apology camp as soon as you said, hey, apologize. Dan needs to start having a little bit more. Yeah, he's just a putt.

1:51:57We were just putting him like the fiddle right there. That was ridiculous. I love Dan. It would have been great to see him, and it would have been cool to sit back there for an entire show and just judge him, which is where I would have been. I would have been dropping into your guys' ears. Is this guy serious right now? If it wasn't for the yesterday thing, I really would want to see him. Yeah, the yesterday does get uncomfortable every time he says it. He knows what he's doing. You think he knows? You think he knows? Yes. He says it? Yes. I don't know. People say that about us with Don and stuff.

1:52:28But you know you're saying it. With you guys, I wouldn't think that. With me, sure. Because I am usually saying on purpose, Don. Because I don't have a Pittsburgh accent. So you're paying respect. I'm paying respect. Oh my. Some people would say, I am. I got some piss. Forgive me.

1:52:48Pat McAfee:Plum Mustangs, by the way, rolling. Football team for real. 42-13, I do believe, first week. Yeah, we won two games last year. It's going to be a different season. Okay. Quarterbacks and stuff. Yeah, Johnny Nonnenberg is a dog, and he's spinning it. And the boys of the offensive line, hey, hey. And Jumbotron we got, Daktronics. Beautiful. Best in the world. It's the greatest. I'm telling you, the Plum Mustang football team is a problem this year. No questions asked. Game day going? Maybe. We will continue this on YouTube, ESPN Plus, TikTok Live. And we got a conversation with Tommy Fleetwood. Be a friend.

1:53:25Pat McAfee:Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Goodbye. Nailed it. Really powered through that one. Got it. Every word was really fighting my mouth. I think you would see it. It was coming up here, and then it was hitting every tooth. Boom. It was getting out. It was really cool. Yeah. That was really cool. We're talking jumbo trouts. Daktronics is a real deal. For real. Those are top of the line. They're in a lot. They got a lot of them. They just did Plum High School basketball or gymnasium. They put one up. Unbelievable. Changes everything. It really does. We got replays now in the football stadium.

1:54:00Pat McAfee:Oh, we got the football stadium. Seriously, we have replays? Football one's the same size. It's like the same as the Falcons stadium? We don't have the Falcons. No, it's Jerry Rowe. It's actually the same size as the Lucas Oil Stadium one, though. Yeah, for shoot. It's close. It is close to the same size as the one at Lubez Hill Stadium. It's really nice. The Daktronics people are legit. And they like, I don't want to say like they cared as if that's some abnormal thing. But they like, they genuinely like, they were very pumped to be a part of the Plum Mustang renovation project. And it's like, we appreciate that a lot.

1:54:32We're all Mustangs here. The fund, you know, me, Phil, Eddie, Keith, trying our best to get back to Plum Sports. And I'll tell you, it's been a lot, and they've been producing. Hell yeah. Like, really, I'm proud of what the World Mustangs Here Fund did. Two million bucks giving back to Plum High School Sports. A lot.

1:54:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's been really fun. They'll go a long way. They'll go a long way. And our teams are getting good. Like, it's like working, you know? Like, you can, like, actually see it, and people are staying committed to sports and stuff like that as opposed to potentially going other. It's, like, been a lot of fun to be a part of. And our football team actually looks like a football team. It's a big win, week one. First time ranked in 5A. There you go. Ranked ninth. Hasn't happened. Pretty good. I sent a text to quarterback John Nonnenberg. Means fucking nothing. Okay? Being ranked after week one. Let's not forget that.

1:55:22This means absolutely nothing. We got a huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Now, let's be excited. Okay? Definitely a big time win. Especially over Franklin Regional. Okay? They got all the money. Scumbags. Tone's dad lives in the town. Is that a rival? in which... My parents currently reside in Franklin. That is the area in which rivalry, very close. They literally look up the hill. They are on top of the hill. We are at bottom of the hill. That is who we're playing against. We get a huge win over them. A huge win in their place. I think

1:55:56Pat McAfee:Nonnenberger quarterback threw for 200 yards and four touchdowns or something. We got a guy. Not bad Friday night. We got an offensive line. We got a team. Our defense was pounded. Hold the phone. Let's go, boys. Got the juice. 5A. Home opener this Friday. I forgot they have 5As now. I think they have 6As now. Yeah, I think 6A in total. I think we're 5A. We were 4A, which was the max. Then they opened it up a little bit. Then we moved to 5A. I think we got some big-time opponents coming down the pipe. We should be enjoying these wins, but nah, we need to keep stacking days. We need to keep stacking days.

1:56:28We need to keep stacking days for sure.

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1:57:36Pat McAfee:All right, we got a chance to catch up with the FedEx Cup champion earlier today. AJ, did you know that? I did know that, yeah. Tommy Fleetwood, I can't wait to see it, actually. What a sweet final tournament for this guy. Sweet ending of the PGA season for him. And also, his hair looks fantastic, like yours. Hey, your hair looks good. It's coming along. No, Tommy has that legit volume. He's got great little, he's got some curls to it. Yeah, but you've shaped, we'll get to Tommy. Tommy, you've shaped yours a little bit here. You have. I got the bottom trimmed up a little bit. Still growing out, everything else on the side.

1:58:06It looks good, dude. Starting to get kind of spiky around the yarmulke. You can see it. Very spiky, yeah. It is kind of like the Jesus. Yeah, the crown of thorns. Yeah, that's what I'm going for. That's what I'm going for, yeah. Before it starts to fall.

1:58:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, I got gel. I got gel on the spike. Remember they cut Tebow's hair that way when he was the wrong guy? Yeah, yeah, the Jefferson, yeah. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we talked to a man with great hair earlier today and a man who's fresh out of a$10 million payday, Tommy Fleetwood. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the FedEx Cup champion, an English lad and an absolute stud of a man who I think the entire world is a fan of. And everybody on earth was happy to see him win$10 million this past weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, Tommy Fleetwood.

1:58:58Pat McAfee:Congratulations, Tommy, on the big-time win. How are you feeling, bub? thanks guys i'm good i'm good a little jet lagged but we're uh all good it's been um it's been a really really nice few days um and like it's yeah it's been it's been a great way to end the year or the season yeah heading into an off season with the biggest win of the entire season has to feel good and obviously that is vastly different than previous seasons and i know there's probably been a lot of reflection and i assume there's been a lot of people asking about what your golf life had been until this big time win but i'd be remiss if i didn't bring it up on sunday when you have the three-stroke lead and everybody on earth says hey it's fleetwood's time literally i think lebron caitlin clark everybody on earth is like it's fleetwood's time we're all pumped for you what are you thinking about there are you like holy i could six putt this thing still or what is the yeah i've got to say like yeah on the when i was on that last hole because i i think the 15th tee shot was the one that i really wanted to get away like that par three island um you know that was that was one that i really wanted to get over with but when i was down the 18th and i was just short i was just short of the green in two kicked it on there was um there was a guy that announced um you know there's a voice that announces you want to the 18th green and he kind of did a really nice announcement of me but he sort of it was like it sounded like a victory announcement not that he said i was champion but i was like well let's slow down i've still got i've still got to go here and um i was like you you kind of know it's done but i was still in this like deep mental cocoon of let's just get let's just get this one done and let's uh and let's finish so i'd have loved to enjoyed it more down the last but i just wanted to i just wanted to make sure i finished it off no i don't think enjoying it down the end is the right way to get like i think it's the complete opposite i'm happy to hear that you're able to do that is Is that something that you've had to work on?

2:00:53Pat McAfee:Is that something you have to deal with? Because I think everybody on earth knows you're a good golfer. And because you're such a good golfer, you've been in it so many times. High pressure moments, maximum pressure moments. With a golf ball that is so small, sweet spot so tiny, you accidentally, I mean, just one little thing could ruin an entire round. Like, is that locking in a mental cocoon, something you have to work on on a regular basis? Or how did you get to this point? yeah well it's i mean it's it's a lot easier when you're not in contention or when you um you know for me um obviously i've had a lot of close calls and especially recently um i've been playing some great golf and getting myself into those positions and then i hadn't finished it off um when i when i felt like it was my tournament so there's definite it becomes it becomes harder to put those doubts which are you know very real like you know all your feelings they're completely real but they are just feelings so you just have to work on trying to make them into a positive in a way but those doubts creep in and that's when you've really got to be strong and just continue to put yourself in in those situations and I always I always felt like eventually it's going to be my time and it's going to happen um you know i did i expect it to be this one maybe not but um you know i played great and i think yeah i just i've worked really hard mentally to to just keep myself in the best frame of mind and make sure i kept giving myself the opportunities until it did come i think we all thought you were eventually going to win i think that was just kind of like how the world thought and that's why there was so much intrigue down the stretch there on Sunday because we were so excited and we just watched you you know take your hat off and showcase those beautiful pearly whites there was there a moment of vindication was there a 10 ,000 pounds lifted off of you there did you go home at night look in the mirror and have any different conversations with yourself with your family is there any of those types of moments that maybe we don't get to see that's happening in between your ears there's definitely relief and a lot of satisfaction like I'm so satisfied with all the work that um like I put in day in day out and for it to be rewarded I feel like it's um like I feel like it's been rewarded with I feel like it's been rewarded with a lot of good play um I feel like it's been rewarded by getting up there all the time but at the same time you know you like I've always said I want to win like multiple times I want to win plenty it's not really about winning just one but you can't do the rest without winning the first one and I'm I'm so glad to have got over that hurdle and hopefully it doesn't take me 164 times to win my next one yeah you broke the seal brother you broke the seal now they're just gonna start pouring in i couldn't fathom honestly the amount of pressure you're probably putting on yourself every single time and the amount of relief but also i hope there's a sense of pride in there that you fought through all that shit you did something remarkable and uh your story touched everybody in sports now on that note It's a lot of money, brother.

2:03:54Pat McAfee:Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Tommy, it's an honor. Your flow, by the way, let me just say, best on the tour. Yeah, that's got to be. I was just looking good today. Yeah, got to be a nice feeling. I know it took a while, but at least you had that hair the whole entire time with that win. $10 million. I mean, nothing to sneeze at. Probably pretty nice seeing that paycheck come through after a victory. Did you have anything in mind specifically that you wanted to buy that you were thinking of, kind of almost motivating you? maybe a Bentley, maybe some sort of Aston Martin vehicle. I don't know what they do over there in England.

2:04:26Bangers and mash. Perhaps a nice hearty helping of that maybe. Maybe buy Big Ben. Yeah, sure. Just the whole fucking clock. Get a clock. Yeah, that'd be cool. Was there anything? Big Ben. I'll probably need a few more FedEx cups for that. Well, let's get to it. Yeah, get more than one win. You just said it. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. Do you know what? No, I haven't had anything particular in mind. And actually, the thought of winning the FedEx Cup or$10 million check had never really entered my mind. But if you're going to do it, if you're going to crescendo and finish this chapter with one, then that's a great one to do it.

2:05:05But we'll think about that another time. For the time being, it's been like, you know, sitting here sort of very satisfied, very relieved and kind of processing it all. And then we'll think of a few things. We'll think of ideas. If you've got anything, let me know. We just ran off a bunch. We ran off a bunch.

2:05:21Pat McAfee:Maybe a James Bond car. Bingo. Any of these things are possible. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Batmobile. Buckinghead Pals. There you go. Joe Burrow already bought one, allegedly. No, Joe Burrow didn't buy it, did he? I think he gave it back. Yeah, it was a lie. Yeah, allegedly it was a lie. But he's a football player, so we don't want to talk negative about him. What the hell? I appreciate the fact, though, that in golf, you guys aren't promised anything. You know, we've learned that through the development of Liv. And whenever Liv started, then they started chit-chatting about what a PGA contract is. And it's like, you're not guaranteed any money at all.

2:05:55Pat McAfee:You have to earn it, earn it, earn it. And then your guys' schedule, just crazy, one after another. Oh, we got pro-ams happening on Wednesday, Thursday. Hopefully we're making it to the weekend. You have, on a very regular basis, made the cut, made the weekend. Then you're back on the road. What does life look like now that the season's kind of come to an end? Do you work? What do you do now that you can breathe for a little bit? Because your guys' season, after watching that super swing, full swing is absurd. You guys are rock stars. You guys are living on the road for a very long time. Yeah, well, for me, I play the tour over in Europe as well, so I've probably still got five or six events left until December.

2:06:39December will be my time to sort of shut it down and have some time off then. But I've got the Ryder Cup coming up, so that's in, what's that, three weeks' time, a month's time. I've got one event before that. So actually, you know, right now it's like I'm having a week at home, just chilling, just enjoying it. And then I'll actually get straight back to work and practicing for the next event. So there's always something going on. I think that was the great, like for us, like European players that play both tours, like the change in the the way that the format works in the schedule where we're finished in august and we don't start till january that's a nice time for us then to play uh we can play like a bunch on on the tour that i you know grew up on essentially so um it kind of fits really well but it does it does mean that we don't get that much time off gotta be a good cock of the walk over

2:07:28Pat McAfee:there fresh off the fedex cup champion you know good enough saying that mental cocoon everybody's gonna be gassing your ass up on that now i'll be i'll be cocooning yeah i'll be cocooning that's I was saying that mental cocoon over there. On that note, there's somebody that's with you very close in this sport that I think is different than anywhere else. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Tommy, how important is the relationship with your caddy? I feel like this year specifically we've seen stories of guys changing caddies so often where in years past, like the only time you really heard about that was if like Tiger changes caddy, and it was a big deal.

2:07:59But when you are in a position that you've been in and you've gotten close so many times, Like, how important is that relationship to have someone really steady on the bag with you who kind of knows exactly what you need to hear at all times? Yeah, of course. And me and Finno, my caddy, we're very close. We've known each other for such a long time. He's now been on my bag for a long time. And I think just at a human level, like he's going to have had doubts as well, like the times that we've not quite got it right or we've got it wrong. But I think me personally, I've always wanted to focus on the amount of positives that there's been.

2:08:31and you just look for those little tweaks that eventually get you over the line without sort of drastically changing things um yeah there's been quite a lot of caddy changes this year and i i think i think probably once it happens once and maybe somebody's had success like they've changed caddies because things do you know people want something fresh every now and again and it definitely like re-energizes so i think uh and then once somebody's seen it be a success once then of course like somebody else's going to try it and then somebody else will try it so it does in cycles like that a little bit.

2:09:00For me and Finnell, I think, especially this latter part of the season, it was just important that we continue to learn from anything that we didn't quite get right or any mistakes that we might have made. And then when we're in that situation again, you just put all those things right or you put them to the forefront of your mind and you keep pressing forward. And this was the time that it did happen for us. I'm a big believer in like consistency, like minor tweaks. And, you know, this one's paid off. So that's been nice for us both. I need to make more putts, Tommy. I need to make more putts, okay?

2:09:37Are we going on a practice session now? What have we got? You've got to take the head cover off it first.

2:09:41Pat McAfee:That's something to think about. It's not about the head cover, okay? It's about the stroke. Are you putting at your house? You're saying this week. You're going to have a week. I assume you and the family are going to have a good time. Enjoy it. Hell yeah. Enjoy it. I hope you have a blast. Everybody over there has earned it. Obviously, it's been a lot of dedication from all parties. I understand how that goes. But are you like waking up in the morning at the house, 100 putts? Like they talk about basketball players. We're doing 1 ,000 shots a day before we go to bed. For you guys, it feels like the separator between the great and the good golfers is 100 yards and in, more specifically on the green.

2:10:16Pat McAfee:Are you, is it like this week? Do you just wake up and just start burying putts? Like, how does it work with what you focus on and when you focus on things? No, I'll have a pretty good, like, structured practice routine. I think, you know, for us in golf, there's so many different aspects and so many different elements that you're always trying to cover. Like, you can never, like, there's no way that you could, I mean, you can't hit every shot that you're going to get in golf, even in a, you know, in a week's worth of practice, if you did it hours and on every day. So there's always, you have to really sort of focus on certain points and be consistent with them and work your game around them.

2:10:55But, you know, definitely for us, you've got putt in, short game, long game, and then physical. And you've got these elements. And then at any given time, you'll structure your day around them. But no, there's not been, I've actually hit a few putts with my little one. He's still grinding away and he still wants to practice. So I've been hitting a few putts with him this week, but nothing major. How old is he? he turns eight next month god he's so much better than i am yeah just absolute dog of course i

2:11:23Pat McAfee:assume now what i hope you do is take off the next two and a half weeks true you won the fedex cup championship yeah you don't need to practice anything maybe you should start playing fucking lefty and on that note ap tony's a question for you yep tommy we were all very very super happy for you uh on sunday getting that win and i hope you know that because over the next month you are the enemy. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Sorry, sorry. You are the enemy. You are coming back, obviously, to the USA for the Ryder Cup. What's it like going to be at Bethpage as someone on the European team? Do you like being the away team in that atmosphere?

2:12:05And just overall, what's the environment like for someone that has never been to a Ryder Cup? Well, I think it's the most amazing thing for us. about the Ryder Cup is because we play an individual sport and week in, week out, you get supported as an individual, but the crowd that are there are appreciating golf and they support whoever's there, whereas the Ryder Cup for us is our... That's our time to experience what it's like to have an unbelievably biased crowd, both home and away. I think we're all really excited for the atmosphere that's going to be at Best Page. It's going to be... This is what dreams are about.

2:12:41We've dreamt of playing this tournament all our lives in making this team and the crowd just play such a huge part in that. So home or away, I think that's massive. And we are excited. We don't expect anything other than, you know, the home fans to cheer for the home team, of course. But we're really, really excited and looking forward to it. And we'll see. It's going to be great. I'm excited to go there as, you know, our team and play against not only the 12 other guys on the team, but the nation as well. and just enjoy it. Like I say, this is what we've been dreaming of, you know, playing in these things since we were kids, taking up the game.

2:13:21And, like, I'm just really excited to play in that atmosphere. You scared to death that Keegan's going to play or no? What are you going to say? I know there's a lot of debate, isn't there? I think as – I feel a little bit out of the loop. I don't know when he makes his picks or when he's made the picks.

2:13:37Pat McAfee:Don't you worry about our team, actually. Yeah, I don't even know why I asked. You just asked me. Yeah, I know. That's right. Did you not hear me? I don't know why I even asked. I was in the middle of it. How's your guys' team chemistry? You guys have a couple pints? Do you guys hang out? Are we motivationally speaking to each other in the mornings and at night? Are we hanging out in the locker room? Is there a sense, you said you're individual sports, do you try to do as much team activity? Because for us, camaraderie is about a training camp, and you try to come together. And I know golf is one-on-one-on-one, but it does feel like it's you versus the world out there.

2:14:10Pat McAfee:Do you guys do a lot of team shit? And is there like a group text? How do we figure it out? You don't worry about our team. We're good. Congrats on winning the FedEx Cup Championship. I wish you nothing but failure in a few weeks at the Ryder Cup. But immediately after that, we're right back on the flip. We're back. That's right. We're back. We appreciate the hell out of your time. I can accept that. Congrats, dude. It was fun to watch. Thank you very much. That's awesome. Thanks for having me, guys. It was great to see you. I want you to know, though, like we all sent or all felt like an immediate sense of like happiness and joy for you.

2:14:49Pat McAfee:Everybody in the sports world. That's very abnormal. That's very abnormal in the sports world. People want to hate people, especially if they're successful. People want to tear people down. As soon as you won, everybody in sports from all different walks of life are like good on you, you know, like legit. So fair play, lad. I think you should feel very good. And we're pumped that you joined us. It's been awesome. Thank you so much to everyone. Cheers. Have a couple of pints on us. Cheers. How many, by the way? Yeah, how many pints fit in the FedEx Cup? I haven't tried it yet. I didn't get to put a pint in it, but there'll be a few.

2:15:25Probably like, I don't know, three or four. Bye. Bye.

2:15:30Pat McAfee:All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, FedEx Cup champion. And the man who's about to just dominate the European tour, I guess. Again, Tommy Fleetwood. Yeah, Tommy. Thank you, Tommy. Hey, good moxie on Tommy. Yeah, great moxie. We're all happy for him, AJ. That was something I tried to tell him like five different times because I wanted him to understand like that is abnormal. You know, like I don't really know how often. Maybe around the Olympics somebody will come around and like Bolt. I think everybody wanted Usain Bolt to win. Even American people wanted him to win whenever he was first doing his thing.

2:16:06Maybe Phelps whenever he was rolling.

2:16:09Pat McAfee:I don't know how many just like sports. I guess. I wonder if that's like a United States thing too. Like I'm sure other countries weren't jacked up to see Michael Phelps win gold medals. I feel like we got behind a couple people that weren't from the United States. Well, then how about Bolt? So we'll say Bolt then. Yeah, I think that's probably a safe one. But you're right. Because I felt like the world was like, hey, we have a human that is faster than humans have ever been. I think we're all pulling for it. Team Sport. Serena maybe? Yeah. Yeah. Serena. A little different, but I feel like when Stafford won a Super Bowl, everyone was happy for Stafford.

2:16:41There was a lot of people in Detroit that weren't. Okay, I thought the Detroit people were still cheering him on.

2:16:45Pat McAfee:I mean, a majority were. Dude, 30 top fives. We've seen that guy on Sunday a lot. Yes. We've seen his name on the leaderboard a lot. Like, he is very known. And then it's like, not going to get it done. That was just always. And we're always so bummed for him. Like, ah, man, yep, got a double on 14. It's over for Tommy. See you later, Tommy. You're on your way out. for him to finish and i asked him about that mindset on 18 you know because in the way i worded it was certainly something but it's real like you could six putt i've seen i've watched on sundays where some guy that i've never seen before is about to win and like if he misses this it goes to a playoff and it's a two and a half footer or something and it's like could you imagine just rimming that out and then it's another two feet yeah and it's like well if you miss this there's not even a playoff you actually come in second place somebody else wins it's like you can definitely miss there's a lot of spots for that ball to roll to especially with how small it is it's like that's why it's so hard to win i was that's why scotty scheffler outrageous tiger woods outrageous everybody that was kind of on those runs jack way back in the day outrageous whenever people were on those runs in golf it's so fickle because that shit can just vanish and it did to a lot of stars and it's like tommy fleetwood i think he should be considered one of the greats 30 top fives is fucking outrageous i mean he's up in there i was just looking back he's been at least in the top 15 in the world since 2022 that's as far as i could go back so like he's been a top 15 golfer for the last four years three four years or whatever at least i couldn't go back and he's never been able to give a happy speech no no never been able to be like yeah i won you know that's crazy for him mentally aj and it has to feel so good now for that to happen you know well it's such a solo sport so each time that you get there and you get in contention then you fall you know something happens on sunday either maybe you don't even you don't even fall apart maybe someone in front of you jumps out there and finishes eagle eagle birdie or something so yeah the fact like each tournament where you go oh here we go awesome another top five and i can't find a way to finish this and win it but i think you're right like he he may have taken the lid off he may have figured it out now i cannot imagine the confidence this guy has to have i mean at least you can lean on it in the biggest tournament with the biggest prize 10 million bucks i was able to finish It's like at least you have that in the back of your head.

2:19:00Pat McAfee:But every time is, you know, situations are situational. That's right. I mean, that is reality. It's like how he wakes up on a future Sunday will be the same as how he felt this past Sunday when he won the biggest prize in the sport. I'm not 100%. I mean, congrats to him. And then he goes right into the European Tour. He has seven wins on a European Tour thus far. Goes right into that. I actually get an opportunity now to play eight more tournaments because of the way it is. Like, this guy loves ball. Yeah. This guy. I went back. He's been in the top 25 since 2017, basically, and has never won on the PGA.

2:19:32Great golfer.

2:19:33Pat McAfee:This guy is a great golfer. Even his friends and family probably weren't even able to really celebrate him. Then he wins one, and it's like all his friends and family that have been by him, they're like, we told you he was a guy. Always told you he had it in him, and then he does it. It's like, good for you, dude. We've seen this a couple times now, but when you see the guys on tour who stay and wait when he's on 18 there because they know he's about to win and they want to congratulate him. It's almost like those guys wanted him to win more than they wanted to win the tournament. When they saw that he was in position, it's like, you know what?

2:20:07Fuck this. It's Tommy's time. We've got to be there for him. That especially, I feel like, never happens. Good for you, Tommy. Hell yeah. Happy for him. He was cool. Great chat earlier this morning. He saves a little jet lag there. Big Ben's going to cost more than$10 million, boys. That's a bummer. he's made a lot more than 10 million once again great golfer great golfer speaking of great

2:20:33Pat McAfee:golfers aj you've won in a golf tournament before right uh no i don't believe i've ever won in a golf tournament no i introduce you as a rider cup winner every single winner i guess i've won my match with rob riggle we won our match in a tournament yes you've won in a tournament right Yep. Correct. And saved a life. Let's go. And was part of our saw somebody pass away on Kelly Slater. I saw Kelly Slater save a life. Yeah. Shout out. What a crazy shout to Kelly Slater. Surfer, right? And Malfoy. And lifesaver, actually, on a golf course at Ryder Cup, which leads to the Ryder Cup team. We put up on there pretty big.

2:21:14Pat McAfee:Like, hey, this was recorded 10 minutes before. Yeah. Actually, 10 minutes before the Ryder Cup teams were announced. That's on us. but also scheduling-wise, the only time we could talk to Tommy. We got good team age. Keegan Bradley did not select himself as a captain's pick to compete alongside the boys on the course. He would just be leading a group of studs into action in New York. We told Tommy that he needs to suck in this for the good of the United States of America. Feels like he's pretty locked in on them winning. What are your thoughts on the team and just the Ryder Cup buzz here starting to really build?

2:21:46Man, I can't wait. Honestly, watching the Ryder Cup is great. It happens during football season, so it's kind of weird. But I remember being in, like, Saturday meetings and my linebacker coach putting it on the screen on mute while we were having, like, our post-practice meetings to see what's going on with the Ryder Cup. But I know Keegan didn't name him, so I wish Keegan would have played. I think he should have just done it. Why not? We would love to see Keegan play. But who here, like, who was the first and second out? Like, who would be the alternates? Do we know who was pissed off?

2:22:11Pat McAfee:Sam Burns, I think, was the last one in, if I had to guess. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, him and then Colin Morikawa was a lot of the talk, even though Colin Morikawa has been one of the best U.S. golfers for the last five years or whatever, but this hasn't been his best season, but he's performed so well in Ryder Cup. Keegan said that they brought him on. But so Morikawa and then Sandbirds were, yeah, two of the last ones that were. I'm a Keegan addict. Yeah, you are. Sure. Noted. Who was on the edge that just got left off? Do we know? Oh, that way? Keegan. Yeah. Yeah? Other than Keegan. Yeah, I mean, he left himself off.

2:22:44Yeah, Keegan Bradley. I think he's the... Who's this year's Bama and Ole Miss and...

2:22:49Pat McAfee:South Carolina. Yeah, I haven't seen their fan bases putting out a lot of stuff yet to... Yeah, we'll go on X to see who's pissed. Yeah. But we want to let them know we're pissed too. There's only a certain amount of players that are allowed to be on the Ryder Cup team, though. That's right. Maybe next time you can play a little bit better at the beginning of the season. Get those points up. Get in. Because we need you on Team America, especially if we lose. And Keegan knows that if he loses here, he's going to be judged because of it. Can't. Keegan's a New Englander. takes a lot of pride in that.

2:23:17Pat McAfee:Being a professional golfer from New England. Not a lot of warm weather up there. A lot of golfers you hear about might be from the north, but they move immediately to the south. Why? So we can golf, I don't know, for the other eight months of the year when we can't golf in the north. So very rarely do you hear about northern golfers succeeding and having a big-time golf career. Keegan Bradley's been that guy from New England. Now he's got to go to New York and lead a team. Let's go win. Come on, Keeg. in the middle of football season. Wouldn't be great if it was right before football season. Right now.

2:23:49Minus 130. Okay. Who's the other captain? Of USA or Europe? We're not talking about the other team. They don't have a captain. You're right. It's about us.

2:24:02Pat McAfee:Tommy told us not to talk about his team. And right after I asked him to talk about our team, I told him not to talk about our team. That's right. I told him right through his face, too. He handled it well. Nameless face. Shout out to Donnie Baker. I said right to his voice. State law. Rest in peace. I cannot believe that. Rest in peace. The world missed out on Donnie Baker. I was going to say, he was about as big as there was in terms of... Radio personality. Yeah, he set your watch to see in one of his videos on Facebook back in the day. What he would have done. TikTok? Oh, God. Oh, my God. Donnie Baker on TikTok.

2:24:42State law would have been. Rest in peace, Donnie. Rest in peace. That was always really cool to me. He was like five different people. Yeah. He was five different characters. It was unbelievable. Tony from Sopranos. Tom. Him just breathing heavily. He would call into Bob and Tom radio. We're talking about a character from Bob and Tom radio show. This guy was five different characters. He would call into Bob and Tom. his Tony Soprano was him just heavy breathing into it, which goes against like everything about radio. Like, Hey, that is not what anybody wants to hear. But then he would drop in this New Jersey accent, Italian accent.

2:25:26He was a talent. That guy fucking talent, loved baseball, coach baseball down in Florida. I think like love baseball. I got to know him. They passed away. It's like, man, perspective. Life comes, life goes to try to enjoy it all. Please. You know, life is very fickle. You have to enjoy it all. You have no idea what's coming tomorrow. No clue. All we know is we got football very soon. So soon. And we made it. Yeah, we did it. Hell yeah. Go football. We did it. Go football.

2:25:55Pat McAfee:As we wrap up today, I think it would only be proper for us to do the news. To do that, please welcome the man who's going to inform the world of things that we need to know about that are happening around this sports empire on this particular Not Another Wednesday. Yeah. It's hard to get to. Yeah. It is. But when you get there, it's hard to. Worth it. Worth it every time. Yeah. With the English language, it's hard to get to Not Another Wednesday, you know, in there. But nonetheless, here's the news that you need to know on Not Another Wednesday from our friend, Boston Connor. Hey, good to have you back, man.

2:26:34This has been much, much more fun. I'm sure you've heard a lot of things about the shows the last two weeks. Good things. They fucking sucked for us. No, no, no. It's very nice to see you across the stage. Last QB battle of camp, Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shuck. Spencer Rattler wins. He will be the starting QB for Kellen Moore's New Orleans Saints.

2:26:54Pat McAfee:Tyler Shuck was the starter, remember? Because why didn't they draft Shador if they were going to draft the starter? They didn't draft Tyler Shuck until later in there. Spencer Rattler played a little bit last year. A lot of moxie. Remember him from literally high school, Elite 11 camps. Now he's getting an opportunity to be a starter in Kellen Moore's offense in this brand-new New Orleans Saints team. I think if you listen to the defensive players of the New Orleans Saints talk about Kellen Moore and what he's doing down there, they have a lot of faith, even though nobody has had any faith in the New Orleans Saints this offseason.

2:27:22Pat McAfee:What's their over-under? I believe it's four and a half. Okay, so not a lot of expectations by anybody. Spencer Rattler gets the job. That might be a right place to be, though. That might be a good time to get the starting job. Great opportunity. Yeah, what an opportunity with no expectations really placed on your team. The over-under is four. I mean, let's go get eight victories and be a hero, Spencer Rattler. And earn a hell of a contract. You know, if you're able to – and by hell of a contract, I'm not talking$65 million a year. Maybe. I mean, shit. You never know. If you go from four and a half over-under to winning a Super Bowl, you probably make a lot of money.

2:27:54Pat McAfee:But we're talking about, like, good second contract, starter, maybe Phil Gap type of person. $20 million. Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, then you become star. This is huge. Anytime you get a chance to play as a quarterback, it is huge, which is why that whole conversation about Shador and them setting up for failure and why is he starting without the ones out there? It's like, well, he's not starting quarterback and he's getting an opportunity to play. This is a huge ordeal for everybody out there. Well, he's not getting a fair shake because they're not using this. That's never happened. That is not reality.

2:28:30Pat McAfee:He's talking about humans and also injuries and everything, like actual teams that have to worry about what they're doing. And it's like I appreciate the way Shador has handled it. Everybody around Shador. Shador has not. Shador has been very – he's trying to stay above it, complimenting teammates, talking about Joe Flacco, his relationship with him. It feels like the boys like him. It's like there's been so much shit around him, which is going to happen forever. He's Coach Prime's son. I mean, that's just the way it is. They obviously have drummed it up as well with their reality TV show business, which is kind of what their social media is.

2:28:59Pat McAfee:It's just a reality TV show. They've been documenting everything that they've been doing for a long time. So there's a lot of energy and a lot of focus on Shador, no matter what he does. And the conversation around him, like, why is he playing? He shouldn't be playing. They're trying to screw up. He has stayed above it all the entire time. I respect and appreciate that, AJ. Legit. He does. He handles it well. I think so, too. I heard Deion explaining in his presser about Shiloh getting released and Deion just talking about it. I prepared my kids for every possible scenario. Like, it was cool to hear how Deion was talking to these kids and not like all doom and gloom.

2:29:32Dion's a very positive guy, but yeah. I feel like these guys can bounce back, and Shador has handled it very well, I feel like. Eventually, he'll be on the field at some point this year, right? We assume.

2:29:40Pat McAfee:Very committed father, Coach Prime. Nobody talks about. Nobody ever said nobody here talks about how committed as a father he is. And then as a coach, accountability. And even though, hey, yeah, we're going to let motherfuckers know we're good. We are not scared to do that. But the only reason why we can do that is because of everything else. He's changing a lot of lives, man. And Shador, just watching him operate in this whole thing, he could have numerous times tried to take the clout way. Like, there's a lot of everybody saying, he's doing this shit for show and for clout. It's like, he could have numerous times given answers that would have drawn headlines and stirred up shit and threw gas onto a fire that was already happening and has not done that.

2:30:21Pat McAfee:So that doesn't really get talked about with Shador, I don't think. And I think that's a plus side. I don't think he should be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. I don't think everybody should be burying Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco took his team to the fucking playoffs two years ago. Like, knows the offense. Yeah, but he's old. It's like, there's a lot of old fucking quarterbacks. You know, there's a lot of old quarterbacks in the NFL. You know why they're old and still in the NFL? Because they know what the fuck they're doing. Like, that is, so I don't like the slander that has been thrown at Joey Flacco.

2:30:48Pat McAfee:Like, I don't love that. But I assume Flacco doesn't give a shit about any of it. And I like the way Shador is handling it. It's like they have a lot going on over there in that particular room. They have not been a very successful franchise. There's a lot of shit outside of it. But if they're able to navigate this, and with the way the leadership is seemingly operating, it's like good for the Cleveland Browns for how loud it's been outside of it. Yeah, and part of the news also is Dylan Gabriel, who has handled this very well. Amazing. No one's talking about him. He was announced as the official backup, and Shador will be the third string, which people had thoughts about.

2:31:23But typically if somebody gets drafted in the third round and another guy gets drafted in the fifth round at the same position, that third rounder is typically above him on the depth chart.

2:31:31Pat McAfee:Well, I'm probably going to get a little bit more opportunity as well. And he looked good with the opportunities he was given. And also that goes for if you're the second overall pick or like a fourth round pick or a third round pick. All the way down. Yeah, it's like there's because that's how much money they invest in you. That is what they've invested in you. So if you're not getting paid a lot of money, I think in any job, you should understand that they do not have a lot of investment in you Okay, so that probably makes it easier for them to move on from you If they're paying you a lot of money, they have investment in you So they are looking for you to succeed because that makes them feel good, right?

2:32:06Pat McAfee:Because they invested a lot of money, but also they're looking for you to succeed because they are the ones that believed in you So like there's a lot of that type of stuff that happens with the draft now. Is that fair? I think the teams would say, yeah, a third rounder is worth a lot more than a fifth rounder. Have you seen any of the trades that happen? Do you know what a fifth rounder is worth? Do you know what a third rounder is worth? Do you know what a first rounder is worth? So this is just the reality of what the business is. And none of us expected Shador to fall to fifth round. None of us.

2:32:34Pat McAfee:But the NFL did. All 32 teams. Numerous times. Let him fall. Are we saying that's accurate? No. But the reality is he's worth a fifth rounder to the Cleveland Browns. Dylan Gabriel is worth a third rounder to the Cleveland Browns. And the fact that Dylan Gabriel has, you're right, stayed above it all as well when he could have easily turned the other way. Shador, same thing. Kenny Pickett, same thing. Joe Flacco, same thing. All of them, I think, have handled this very, very, very well. Very, very well. But that whole, yeah, I mean, I got respect for a lot of people. I respect for a lot of people.

2:33:11Pat McAfee:They wanted Kevin Stavance to get fired. There was just a lot of things. I was just reading on them. So they went the number one offensive line out there in the third preseason game with a fifth-round rook. When would that ever happen? When would that ever happen? Never. That would have never happened. You think Shador's happy about it? No. He would like to have the best offensive line, but Shador fucking knows they're not going to roll out the number one for the third. You know how much money they got invested in that? Once again, back to investment. This is a business. And having Shador on the Browns is good for their business.

2:33:44Pat McAfee:A lot of attention on them. And if Shador turns into the player that we all think and hope he can become, that'd be great business for the Cleveland Browns. And the investment would be gigantic. But it's like right now the way they're viewing it is like our starting quarterback is Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco took us to the playoffs two years ago. Joe Flacco and us did something that not a lot of Cleveland Browns teams have done in the last hundred years. So I think so much conjecture, but I think the way Shador's handled it is cool. It's not a story that's being talked about. I like the way he's operated.

2:34:18And just like we forget what we were saying about that Browns team when they did go to the playoffs. They were going to Houston, and everybody thought that the Browns were going to beat the shit out of C.J. Stroud his rookie year in Houston in the playoffs. Everybody was so high on Cleveland. And Joe was hired mid-season off the catch. He beat a dead guy in the comeback part of the year. It's true. He beat him. Tamar Hamlin. Tamar Hamlin. Yeah. Think about it. He defeated all odds. Tamar Hamlin was like minus 300 to win comeback player of the year at the beginning of the season. What did they say, though?

2:34:50It was for on-field performance, right? That has since been changed. Yeah, and then the Flacco rule, hey, you can't come off the couch and win comeback player of the year anymore. It'd actually be hurt. If a guy passes away on the field in front of all of us, he's probably going to. Yeah. Okay.

2:35:05Pat McAfee:Can't have this happen again. I like Joe Flacco. I liked him when he was here. it didn't work at all. He was not good here with the Colts. He got a raw deal. Didn't seem like they were set up for success. Still doesn't. They are now.

2:35:20You don't know? No, I don't. I do not.

2:35:25Pat McAfee:I'm thinking about that with every team. I don't like the way the new Colts generation fans do the ones that attacked me for pointing out everything that was accurate about the team last year. Now, they all attacked me last year. They are now attacking everything about the Colts and going after them. And it's like everybody has said the same thing, basically. And it's like to be a quarterback is a lot of things. Like it's a lot of things. There's only 32 of these jobs. So it's like is Danny Don the guy that's going to lead us both on the field, off the field, set an example, do all the shit that comes with being a starter?

2:36:01Pat McAfee:I assume that is what they are saying. Because if you listen to the coaches and the way they talk about it, that's basically what it is it's like this guy is suited to be the face of a franchise right now and it's like is he exactly what no i mean this wasn't the guy we drafted number four overall but they also have said they're not giving up on anthony still like anthony gets hurt and then he's like out of the building so i don't even think he's really got a chance to like see how you're potentially supposed to kind of do it for over three year period now so it's like i i still think anthony richardson i was a believer coming in i was like everything we've heard about the offseason here we go this is going to be it and then you just start you know kind of hearing stuff and it's like oh they're going to go with danny dimes because of everything that we kind of potentially were thinking in years past he's very young hasn't played a lot of football i don't think he completely understands how important it is to be the quarterback of an nfl team strictly because throughout his entire life he's been able to show up and just dominate everybody and that's because he is so talented so it's outrageous how much talent anthony richardson has so much fun to watch him do his thing but it's like in the nfl everybody has talent and you're talking about generations of talents like two generations ahead of you are still playing in the nfl those guys had fucking talent they're still playing it's like everybody has a lot of talent he's certainly a lot more god-given ability and everything like that than anybody i've ever seen I mean, Cam Newton is the only real comparison or conversation.

2:37:30Pat McAfee:Josh Allen, I guess, as well is a conversation there, but there's only been a few of those guys. Everything else, though, takes like – you live it. That's what has to happen if you want to really make it. And it's like maybe he's not there yet. He's going to have to play this year, we assume. Shane Steichen's offense, Danny Dimes is going to be running. He might get hurt. Danny Dimes runs very well. He's a bull. Nobody really talks about that. He runs very well. Everybody remembers him tripping. well, do you know in tripping he was on a 65-yard run that he was pulling away from people? Danny Dimes over yardage run rushing yards bet, safe bet basically every game because everybody sees Danny Dimes and says, look at that nerd, he can't fucking run.

2:38:08Pat McAfee:And then, yes, he can. But with that, it's going to come something, and Anthony's going to get to play again. And hopefully, you know, hopefully it's the time. Riley Leonard also. Yeah. He looked good in the last preseason game. He put up 40 against the Bengals. Yeah, and also, did you see a touch pass over the middle? over the linebacker in front of the safety. It's like, ooh, I didn't know Riley Leonard. Did you learn that? I didn't know Riley Leonard could do that. I thought Riley Leonard was like a couple years here. We're going to have to fucking figure out how to make these. And it's like I started seeing some throws, and I'm like, that's against fourth stringers, but he's playing with fourth stringers too.

2:38:42Pat McAfee:And he just fucking seeded that. The throw itself. I didn't know Riley Leonard. I didn't know that was in there. He's so athletic. Yeah. You talk about being able to run. Danny Dimes. I mean, you can see it. Yeah, and he's tall. Duke. Yep, Colts might have the most athletic quarterback room in the country. Definitely. That is indefinite. That's not true anymore, actually. Why is that? Because you guys picked up Danuch? Yeah. We didn't pick up Danuch. Who'd you pick up? Danuch couldn't hold Tommy Cutlets' jock. You picked up DeVito. Yeah, that's right. I thought you got Danuch. You got DeVito. We got DeVito.

2:39:16And funny enough, when it happens, I felt something in my soul. My hair almost slicked back a little more. My armpits almost smelt a little worse. My entire body just felt like I wanted pizza a little more. I honestly think I might have become Italian since the Patriots got Tommy DeVito. I can kind of... I can tell you didn't. You can see it. No, you don't look natural doing that at all. Isn't that what the guy does? You're not Tony Soprano. Pretty good, right? No, he would also then have full action arrows. Yeah, exactly. Like fucking, fucking Gawagool. So you're getting close. Pretty good. Close your eyes.

2:40:03It might be a little. That's not it. No, you don't need to do that. So, Tommy, Davido is now a part of Da Patriots? Yeah, Vrabel saw him and he said, I need cutlets. I need Stellato in my building. You know how they're going to get all the rats out of the building? Stilato's going to walk around with a shotgun. Oh, my God. He does say there's rats in here, and then he brings in fucking Tommy DeVito. Yeah, that's only one way to sniff him out. Bring in the Cutlets family. Bring those noses into the facility, and let's have him go in office to office. You said something there. What I was alluding to is they were going to take a ride.

2:40:36Old buddy was going to be sitting shot by there. Tommy DeVito's going to be sitting back right side. You know why? They just do not stop having a mafia up in Boston. That's unbelievable to think about. There's rats everywhere in this building. and fucking bring me the most Italian Italian. Call Cutlets. Get Stilato on the line now. We got to find him. Fucking where are they? We got loose lips around here. Need you to find him. Stilato, also a mask guy, by the way. Stilato grew up in Massachusetts. That's also a preseason matters because he went like 16 of 20 against the Patriots in their final preseason game.

2:41:07Also with the O-line where I think most of the O-line got cut, but that's for a different day. So, you know, those preseason games do count. Everybody's watching.

2:41:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, especially on the other side of the field. uh darren waller got signed he was on the ravens john gruden was with the raiders sees him do his pre-workout warm-up what is that man yeah that's uh darren waller he's a raider i what can you catch can you do yeah i can sweet cool you got a spot for you then he becomes all pro in that entire thing it's like you never know who's watching that's why every opportunity is such a big deal like don't push your door out it's like that's a fucking big deal a lot of teams that maybe didn't know if he could operate in the NFL with NFL defenses that might be a little bit more sophisticated maybe a little bit more speed maybe an offense that you have to kind of go through a couple more reads people are watching that from other teams being like okay he answers questions that we have maybe if he's not with the bronze he's with us it's like these opportunities matter man like these things are good these are not bad like especially if you're trying to make a roster if you're top 10 guy on team it's like different conversation about this but if you're bottom half of roster, it's like any opportunity is a great opportunity.

2:42:16And just acting like it's not was wild to me. I thought I was very disrespectful of the NFL. Like, hey, this league's been around a long time. And it'll be

2:42:24Pat McAfee:going on for a long time as well. On that note, let's talk about the league making a decision. Rasheed Rice will be suspended six games this upcoming season, including the first six games. Because this conversation about Rasheed Rice's penalty or suspension from the NFL wasn't going to come allegedly until September 30th, which was conveniently enough one day after Monday Night Football, and they've played five games, four of them being primetime games. First one, obviously, in Brazil the second day of the season, taking on the Chargers on Friday. So everybody's like, real convenient. The NFL is scheduling this Rasheed Rice punishment the day after the fourth national television game for the Kansas City Chiefs.

2:43:06Pat McAfee:Turns out that we did a little research. we reach out to our source within the league and september 30th would have been the last day that a rule would have come and that would involve like a judge hearing both sides both the nfl and the nflpa because there's a lot of things and moving pieces whenever it comes to suspensions and precedent and things of that nature so i guess that a suspension was trying to be worked on here since it has happened and the nflpa and maybe they have their gripes or fight back about thing and they're kind of presenting their case the NFL is presenting their case and they were able to come to an agreement on a six-game suspension being the proper amount Rasheed Rice has agreed to it so September 30th was a date of importance in this particular case but it was never in the NFL's eyes from what we were told the date that the decision was going to be made they've been trying to get this done basically since it has happened so they finally just were able to get it done which was news to me i did not know any of that information i was very happy to learn that because it was hard not to be like real convenient that they put it on september 30th when this happened a long time like it's hard not to buy into that and then we call somebody at the nfl and they're like no the deal done we wish this was done two weeks ago there's a lot that goes there's a lot of fighting that is happening on what's allowed what's not allowed what's proper what's improper and it's just like uh it was cool to kind of learn about that because i certainly bought in that they were doing this on Tuesday.

2:44:37Without a doubt. Yeah, definitely. It was hard not to, almost. It was hard not to believe it. And instead, they get it done before the season starts, which is what they've been trying to do, and it's a six-game suspension. And Rasheed Rice and his people have just been like, yep, you got it. We'll see you on week seven. Yeah, it was hard, too, because Jordan Addison got suspended three games either the same day or the day before when this news dropped. So that's why everyone was like, okay, if they're suspending guys now and then the one player on the Chiefs who's up for a suspension, He's the one that gets special treatment and they get four primetime games with their full team before he gets suspended.

2:45:09That didn't make any sense. The Addison suspension kind of added that into it. It was easy fodder. It was easy.

2:45:15Pat McAfee:Easy conspiracy fodder. For right now? Yeah. Especially the Kingdom's out right now. Yeah, exactly. It's just like it was easy fodder. So I think them getting this announced before the season was huge for the NFL. But also we need to remember this going forward, AJ, that even though it looks like a duck and waddles like a duck, that fucker might be a goose. You never know. You can't just assume things. So you hear the quack. AJ. Do we know if she is allowed in the facility and able to practice with the team during this time? No. Nothing. Yeah. That's a big deal. If he was able to take part in practice in meetings, I think that would help him a lot.

2:45:52Yeah, I think so. I was suspended a week, wasn't allowed in the building. How do they fall? That's what am I supposed to do. I'm just sitting in my house. how do they follow yeah it's what you're doing okay i'll just sit in my fucking house shut the blinds i don't want to see anybody i'm embarrassed i'm disgusted with myself and who can i talk to myself i can't even talk to everybody i know in the city's in a building it's right there i'm all out in there i'll fucking go home i guess bad move where am i working out fucking la 50 am i allowed to work out runs all out in the building that's like the

2:46:27Pat McAfee:and mine was one week six weeks a long time you know we watched tom kind of do workouts in his backyard throughout this entire thing i i wonder what we'll see rashid doing i i assume the workout videos will be fucking outrageous that'll be coming out i i do assume that's yeah it is crazy to think though like it's easy to kind of just dismiss this and be like i'll sit like that's a third of the season long time and like they they were relying on i mean we saw how the chiefs offense was last year with him at the very start when it's like, oh, okay. This is the guy they've been missing. They need him.

2:47:00This is why Kelsey's kind of taking a back seat because he is... Crazy situation.

2:47:04Pat McAfee:Could have killed somebody. Without a doubt. Yeah, not downplaying what happened, obviously, but for the Chiefs, I would assume they probably expected this was coming, but still, having a guy who you expect to be a Pro Bowl-type receiver and help Mahomes have another one of those seasons for him to be gone for a third of the season. What a hit. Yeah, now it puts a spotlight on Mr. Kelsey and his improved offseason, him working out down in Florida. And then Xavier Worthy, who was in his second year, he was awesome as a rookie. So it just puts a little bit more on those guys until Rasheed Rice. Do you think it'll be Kelsey Swift, both of them?

2:47:40I think he's taking the name, is he? I wonder if both of them. You got a hyphenate? Yeah. They should. I would not judge. Why not? Two very great names in Americana. Yeah. That jersey sale would do so well.

2:47:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, but you're thinking strictly business-wise. It would. I'm thinking, like, in my eyes, that would be a dope. That'd be a fucking. Imagine our kids. Oh, my God. The pressure to be great. Uh-oh. I'd be more of a fan to take both last names and combine them into something different. Kel Swift or Swift. Swellsey? whatever that i'm so happy for them they should take each other's last names swap swap i'm so fucking happy for them think about how loud it was when they were just trying to date each other you know fuck these i'm sick of seeing them it's like well sorry one of them's biggest star in the world okay sells out stadiums in every fucking continent by herself and the other one is the greatest tight end of all time so yeah sorry in the biggest sport at the biggest time of the sport sorry you're seeing yeah sorry you're sorry people are seeing i guess is kind of the thing and then this is a plant oh she's trying to sell an album huh okay i can't believe fucking travis kelsey is letting taylor swift use his nfl status to sell some fucking like the amount of different eras shout out taylor sure the amount of different eras of hate that they got at the beginning how to make it difficult to become a couple yeah i mean it really makes no sense that that this is the point we're at because like especially in a i can't imagine being having every every part of your personal life being under a microscope literally everything you like they couldn't ever go anywhere publicly and not have it be the biggest fucking deal ever you know it's like the beatles are coming into town like it just it's and also trav you need to look right act right yeah because her fans obviously for good reason because she is an absolute dog very loyal and they've also been with her and have learned her entire life story through her songs you know she's like a diary journalist artist that is she's told i've learned about all her exes through listening with my wife and it's like yo trav representing for football i was very pumped i'm like here we go because she's been with artists in the past you know actors in the past musicians it's like i've heard about them we don't like them you're representing for football here and he's been he's the perfect perfect representative absolutely i think so i legitimately think so like i i assume he would say maybe misstepped a couple things i i misjudged a couple things maybe because he's in the public eye but like the tight end position and this is why i thought from the beginning it was perfect not only because i kind of know travis pretty well but and i also know taylor through her songs which is and her documentary travis tight end he's not expecting to be the star like the quarterback is the star tight end is like i'll block i'll do this like okay being in shadow actually in shadow of offensive line and in shadow of wide receiver and all everybody's in shadow of quarterback so it's like i don't think he is i think he's pumped to like walk behind her as she's walking into a place and he's just enjoying it like from the beginning i think that's why i was a believer that they fuck hey this might be like the perfect for Taylor.

2:51:05I don't know how many dudes are going to be able to handle she's the biggest star on earth. It's like a lot of dudes, especially successful ones, have egos and fucking, you know, all that shit. And it's like Travis is like seemingly, he's an exclamation point, right? Isn't that how she described him? Human exclamation point. Just like, yup, let's do this. Let's have a good time doing it. I'm so happy for them, man. I'm really happy for them. The last name thing will be interesting. Shout out both their camps, by the way, for not leaking out. It was only Taylor's. Yeah, Ed Kelsey came out and said, it's been two weeks.

2:51:40Where the fuck have you guys been, dude? Whole family changed life. Oh, yeah. Everybody's watching everything. Mom, you're going to be wanted to be talking everywhere. Let's make sure we're not saying anything to, you know. I mean, it's crazy time. Kylie's got a podcast. Yeah, Kelly's beast. Jason Kelsey, too. Best center we've ever had. Catapulted into, hey, by the way, here's a super football guy to the world. You know? Yeah. Jason Kelsey, here he is. And then her talking about him and his Tims doing the fucking base jump in the ice, he just appeared. He levitated. I was impressed by that as well.

2:52:20Oh, yeah. Once again, great representative of football. This drunk, big, massive man. Still able. In the snow. Yeah. In the ice. In Buffalo. still able to just fly it's like that's football baby that's right we appreciate that congrats to them once again that is cool that is really cool they had to be so happy to find each other you know i'd assume so legit they probably assumed they were never going to find somebody like this get married both of them public relationships yeah i mean certainly not it's just a wild situation It's a wild time, dude. It worked out. Imagine if she could sell out every ticket she wanted to sell for the rest of her life.

2:53:06Like right now, if she announced a fucking stadium tour in the United States of America, it would sell it in five minutes. Foxy, do you not agree with that? 1 ,000%. Foxy's got a Swifty he lives with as well.

2:53:16Pat McAfee:Yes. So it's like... Five's a lot. What's that? Five minutes is a lot. Yeah, you're right. It would be 90 seconds. If there was no heads up, there was zero heads up. she just put out a post on Instagram. Boom. Here's 250 ,000 tickets available. Those things would disappear in 90 seconds. However fast the link can go through there. She's able to do it. That's a crazy existence. Like that is just an absolutely crazy existence. And for them to be able to kind of counterbalance each other. And what's weird, the Swifty in my household has always said from the beginning, out of all the boyfriends she ever had, Travis was the one where they were like oh they might get married and like all the Swifties were like this is it this is the time Travis is going to be the one and that's just kind of been the thing since they started dating which I think is pretty cool that it actually is happening they're so high school dude they are Travis is tall too so it's not like you know I think some of those dudes actual shadow oh yeah definitely come on Taylor Sink come on yeah this is called a crowd you've never seen one this is what it is You know, like that's seemingly what it was in the past.

2:54:24Pat McAfee:All right. Age, let's get the hell out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. Good show tomorrow. Tomorrow's Thursday? Yeah. Sure is. College football. Holy fuck, man. Yeah, we got football tomorrow. Football tomorrow. Big ones. Nebraska-Cincy. Yeah. Watch that. I like what you're doing, Tony. Chat GP tone. Yeah, I love it. Six and a half? Of course you like it. That feels like a 4.25. Rounded up to four and a half to me. The books don't know yet. That's what you sounded like when you were talking about your Excel spreadsheet with ChatGP. I didn't mean to come off like that, but if I did, I'm not apologizing for it.

2:55:01All right.

2:55:03Pat McAfee:Hey, if ChatGP tone is the game changer, I'm in. I could go 0-10 this week, and then I'll just burn the entire AI. Don't give it up. Don't you guys stick with it? Don't you think? Yeah, you just got to get it there, and then you got to talk to it. Yeah, you need a five-week... Molding. Sample size. There it is, yeah. You need to mold it, shape it. By the way, the first game tomorrow was at 5.30. So it's like. Yes, we're really in it. Yeah.

2:55:29Friday, me and AJ will be in Columbus, Ohio, inside the stadium. Nice. We will not be taking whole show to outside stadium. There's a lot of events set up because Coach Corso's last, that I did not know about literally until yesterday. So had to kind of adjust here. Honored. So that's not even a question. It's just like, got it. Got it. There's a lot of celebrations of Coach Corso. Rightfully so. So much commitment to sport. So much commitment to sport over the years. They've shown all of his highlights. Just so many memories. Just so many moments on television over one lifetime is insane to think about.

2:56:06Let alone where the sport and the show was whenever he started versus where it's at now. It's like he has to look around and be incredibly proud of what he's, I assume. And getting a chance to honor him at the ESPYs, it was cool. because it did feel like he did kind of take it in for a little bit. You know, sometimes you don't know if somebody's really like,

2:56:24Pat McAfee:I don't want to say appreciative because obviously everybody's appreciative, but like, because you've done so, he's accomplished so much. It's like at some point you kind of get numb to people telling you how awesome you are, you know, because there's also people that tell you how bad you are. So like, and Coach Corso was very much like, I don't want to become friends with the coaches. I don't want to, like, I am just kind of doing my thing. universally loved human for the last what 20 years basically of his tv days kirk talked about the first and not everybody loved him you know this entire thing that carries him i assume through the entire thing about how he is it did feel like he took it in and i was incredibly like happy for him you know because like hey man they don't just fucking do this for nobody you know like this is this is a huge ordeal because you've earned it and uh i think everybody's been trying to make sure he knows that like and i think it's been beautiful to kind of watch aj i mean i sure hope he knows that i would i would imagine he hopefully he like accepts all the the praise and what people are saying because you're right like you could talk to anybody you don't even have to know what football is barely and they could probably point out lee corso but i've seen that guy always i always see clips of him i see him on tv putting on the you know the mascot like people still even if you don't know anything i think a lot of people still know what lee corso is yeah yeah he's synonymous with the sport the number two sport in america college football nfl's number one college football is number two and it's like whenever coach corso started 30 some years ago 40 i don't know what it was now i just always say 30 some years but that was a few years ago we might have creeped into 40 i don't know how many years it was but like when it was like that it was just him on a chair you know him fowler and herb street on like watching that to what it is just game day let alone the whole sport of college football it's like what a what a job well done what a life's work yeah what a life's work yeah 38 years he's been doing it so it is creeping to 40 in this entire thing but it's like his life's work has been displayed and you can see the success of it and uh the celebration of him will be awesome on saturday yeah yeah it's gonna be a special show i'm looking forward to it and then right after that boom ohio state texas and his last headgear in the horseshoe Yeah.

2:58:37That's going to be... He better do it. Baby face or heel. He better do it. Hopefully right after the headgear. He better fucking do it. Could you imagine? That's all I'm saying. Could you imagine? Oh, yeah. Oh. Yeah. That would be all time. Last one ever. People crying. Ah, fuck it. Yeah. Most headgear. Oh, my. The team he's picked the most is the Buckeyes, right? Oh, my God. First one, too. That would be. He's not scared. Yeah, you want to talk about a walk-off. That would be a, I mean. I hope, yeah. I would lose my shit up there. That would be sick. But he's going to get it right. His record is a very good one.

2:59:21He is going to go for whoever he thinks is actually going to win, which I respect. I'm not trying to drop in there, though. Like, hey, hold on. You better. Let's do another one of these old days. Toss that. Come on. Toss that. One last time. the entire boo on the way out oh my god how many people in there 100 what 105 108 something like that 108 ,000 people that would be fucking epic it will be regardless because the place is going to go fucking it's regardless it is epic we're talking strictly if he was to decide I'm going to heal in this place one last time what that would just feel I hope I'm excited to see who he picks actually because that is probably who he thinks will win a national championship.

3:00:05I think he's been pretty close a lot. So we will learn from, watch, enjoy, and honor the shit out of him as we celebrate a huge kickoff to college football. What a big slate, dude, on Saturday. Awesome. That's amazing. We don't get this usually. Early, man. Early. I think there's an entire campaign going on about, like, not scheduling easy games, too, by, like, maybe Nike or something like that. That's why they need to put all the teams that play. I mean, I hope Sanford Steve is right. They need to put all those teams in. Let's say Ohio State has three losses, but one of their losses is Texas, and they're at 14.

3:00:45Come on. They'll be in still a favorite. The winners and the other guys. We'll all make the CFP. That's the last time, boys. Hope we enjoyed it. I did. Oh, fuck. Call him back. He had something for Gumpy. Call Steve. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Oh, my God. I just remembered. Fuck. We missed that. We all missed it. Yeah, we did. I put it on all the time. No, yeah, you did. You completely forgot. I put it on everybody. Hey, make sure I get to what Steve wants to tell Gump. Got a good one. Because Gumpy said, I got a good stat that'll make Gump feel good about the Dolphins. And he started to say it.

3:01:21We said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Save it for on air. And we never asked. Hold on. My red ear is not in. I cannot hear you. We'll call him tomorrow. He's got another commitment. Yeah. Another interview. No, he had a Zoom call. Hi! Bless you. Bless you. Thank you. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Thursday already. Yeah, it is. Feels like I've lived this week a lot. You're around Thursday. Yeah. Early morning. You know, this is the new me. I don't know if you guys know. If you're like me, we can text about 445. Sure. Feels like that's the thing we do. Hell yeah. So, we'll see you out there. Yeah, I'll be up.

3:02:03I'll be up. I don't know if you know it's already 5.04 a.m. right now in Brisbane. That's right. So 2 a.m. is noon. That's how I know. 12 plus 2. You guys get pretty active. You guys got pretty active from about midnight to 2 there in that group text. Yeah, sure, sure. Got pretty active. Yep. You know, and I'm trying. I go to sleep. I'm trying, and there's just, and I turn it off. but somehow because i think it's a pinned group text it still vibrates every once in a while and i look at it 48 text messages all right i'm fucking not looking at that and then i go take a piss at about 2 30 i open it shows live all right i gotta see what's going on here okay fucking rap sheet looks awesome and is that his kid on set that's not the same kid though no no so i'm at two two I'm literally half asleep.

3:03:00I think that's a different kid. Is that another kid? Different poopy haircut? I can't tell. No, they got good haircuts. But then I had to text him, hey, say what's up to other kids, you know, because I would like to at least be hospitable, even though I'm in another country. But I don't want to say shout out to the other kid if it's the same kid, because then the other guy thinks, that's more disrespectful. I shouldn't text anything. Exactly. 2 to 45, this is all happening in my head. And then fucking, you guys are in the goddamn group text. And then I get texts. Are you okay? haven't seen you on the show?

3:03:28Fuck everybody. I'm going to bed. Tough to get back to sleep after that. It is, yeah. I'll tell you what, though. Australia, I would definitely recommend. Yeah, I'm going to go. I would definitely recommend. So far. So far. You just got to account for, they say, three days of travel. Like, we also asked NFL person, how's football game going to work there? NFL game. It is so far. And they used to play a preseason game in Japan, I think. So they have had to experience far trips. Australia is so far. It is so far. They're watching Super Bowl Monday morning, 9 a.m. or whatever. You know, so it's like that's how different it is.

3:04:11You just, every person I talk to is like when you travel to Australia, you just add three days is what the travel is going to be. One and a half and one and a half. Like that's basically what you're bookending on the backside. And then you've got everything else in between. I mean, it's like in a football season. How do you just lose? I don't know how you just lose. It's about three days.

3:04:27Pat McAfee:I honestly don't. How is that on a massive disadvantage? You got to do it this week next year. If they're going to do it, they should do it next week on Thursday. And then they get first week off as well, so they get like two weeks to bounce back? Then week one, those two teams have week one off. Bonus buy. They would be the week zero game. So they would get a bonus buy. Yes. Which would actually be the first. But they're working a week ahead of everybody else. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know if you move their cuts up when it comes to cut down or even if you could do that. I don't know how you fix it.

3:04:58Because you genuinely can't do it. It's so far. And there's no Wi-Fi over the Pacific. A lot of Australians would show up though, right? Yes, I think so. Yeah. I think so. It feels like it. I was not recognized over there much. But then when I was in places where there was pockets of people, if that makes sense, like walked into a sports place and it's like three people in there knew who i was so that means 50 people knew who i was because they told you know the conversation but walking about you know all good freeze a bird it was awesome sweet holy fuck it was awesome i had a blast i was just sitting on a bench on downtown just fucking judging everybody walking by nobody looking at me i was like i think i miss people watching in public and yeah i do she fucking had a long black which is what they call their black coffee over there.

3:05:51I got a long black, two of your fake sugars because you guys don't have Splenda here. Tells me something about what I'm putting in my coffee every day. Crazy that you guys don't have that. It tastes so good, but I guess I'll do this stuff. And then sunglasses on. What the fuck is that guy? They walk by. Next person. Wow. Nose piercing to the top lip, to ear, back to bottom lip. Unbelievable. Good luck. Unbelievable arrangement. How long does that take to every fucking morning? Walk by. Good to see them. Sporty fella comes walking by. Good to see that. Holding a footy ball. Stop him. Ask him. If I was to punch that ball out, what would happen?

3:06:34Probably fight you, but I'd go, ball security. You know, that kind of a thing. I wouldn't do that. I'll touch my fucking ball. All right. Good ball, good ball. I'll see you later. like just able to have those very fucking natural random candid interactions with it was really cool like i really i fucking love and everybody was cool like everybody that i talked to was cool and i i don't want to say i get special treatment in places but i do nowadays like i can't fucking tell you what some restaurants like because that restaurant is fucking pulling out all the stuff

3:07:09Pat McAfee:they're putting me yeah and it's a very cool thing you know there's a lot of drawbacks obviously to this entire life that I'm very lucky and thankful. This is not me complaining. There's a lot of pluses that come with this entire thing. But I can't tell you how a fucking place is because they're going to be nicer to me if somebody knows me there than they would be to fucking my dad if my dad was to go there, you know? So it's just like a little different world. I've experienced a different reality all of a sudden. We all have, I think. I don't want to speak for everybody else. Over there, like, it was cool to just fucking be.

3:07:39Like, it was very cool just to be everywhere, you know? and everybody was cool. Everybody had a personality. I was in England. I thought everybody had a personality. You could just talk shit and they're going to come back and they have that accent so it's immediately a little bit of sauce on it. It was like Australia felt like the same way. Did I tell a story about the fucking gigantic dude? Not on here. This guy, 50 some years old, face looks like,

3:08:04Pat McAfee:6 '5", 6 '6", walks into the hotel I'm staying at, tank top, fucking monster. This guy just traps fucking, didn't look like he was on roids either. It was like a active, he just looked like a massive lad, for lack of better words. As he's walking out, I stop him. Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. What do you do? How is this? And he gets startled for a second. I'm like, you're a fucking monster. What are we doing here? Oh, circuit training light, you know, goes through this entire thing about what he's doing and how he does it. was like so incredibly kind like what an uncomfortable question to hear from somebody but i was so impressed i literally i think he was like taken back that i even asked then he like gave me the game he was like a circle high intensity training you know and then he had like a military tat and i was with first sergeant gartland the guy that went to our high school who served 22 years in the marines was eight years as a drill instructor at paris island and in san Diego and uh you know he's literally guy I've known since high school got to be in the movie uh with me because Peter let him in he showed me around Parasite like gave me a lot of game in this entire thing like very very thankful for him hilarious fucking human being I mean I mean let's not undercut just being around him is outrageous has been since high school as well like this dude is hilarious but certified in this entire thing the big huge dude had you know some military tat or something because the aussies in usa especially in world war ii yeah like guadalcanal there's a bunch of like little fights and battles before we truly get to japan that like australia fucking was there were seven scouts i guess from australia in guadalcanal that showed all our people around as we were moving up the islands and they like took care of us australia got hit pretty hard i guess by japan so they obviously had their own it was like australian usa military very very tight i i think i learned that as i was over there so listening to first sergeant gartland and this fucking massive dude have this military conversation was just like so cool it was like it was just a welcoming country if that makes sense but there's not a fuck about yeah we don't like weed you're putting your seatbelt on the back seat there's one homeless person we saw I saw a lot of people reply to you yesterday you know that you're supposed to put your seatbelt on in the backseat of America too Pat yeah but it's not your car's not yelling at me yeah it doesn't getting an Uber as soon as you sit down I just saw a lot of those replies yeah I did see that as well yeah I was like valid what I'm saying is American cars aren't fucking chirpy about you no they're not only in the front seat the Australian car we get in an Uber as soon as we sit down that thing's like you now now now now now now now now now now now and then the driver i'm not moving until this thing you know so it's like you sit down and like immediately i'm trying to where is the fucking there's the middle one here too if i put this into the middle one will it stop no you gotta put it in your fuck it's down in you know when it's oh yeah stuck between i had to fucking get in there dig the fucking thing out and the thing shuts up.

3:11:19Now I'm like stuck, you know, underneath this fucking thing. Is that good, bloke? Yep. Yeah, thank you there. Thank you there. Well, you had it. And we just roll. My God, these things are demanding. They're taking care of their people and keeping them safe and making them feel good from their food. It's crazy. Dude, it's unbelievable. It's crazy that a country would do that for their people. Their food. It's going to be hard for me not every single time it comes up just to talk about it. Foxy was like this whenever he went to Italy. Yeah, Italy and South Africa, I couldn't believe it. You just feel like a million dollars.

3:11:54No matter what you eat, whole bowl of pasta, you can eat that and run two miles after. Pizza? I ate a whole pizza. It's insane. Don't do this. This is how you hang from doorknobs, okay? You just kind of let it be. I don't want to get into a political debate. I was told that whenever, I forget who I was talking to. They're like, what are you going to say about Australia when you go back? I'm like, the food is just so much better. This is unbelievable. They're like, you know, that's going to get you in some, in what? It's going to get you hanging from a doormat. No, I guess that's a thing though.

3:12:25Like what is allowed and what is not allowed in food, whatever. I'm not, I'm not a scientist. All I'm telling you is by my research, I went to Australia. The food's quality is so fucking good. It's real. So good. And then I want to talk about it, but like your functions just so much better. It worked the way they're supposed to. Energy levels. Everything's good. I lost weight. I was eating more. You eat meat over there?

3:12:50Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. They have Canadian bacon instead of like our bacon. I assume our bacon's not actually. I don't know. Everything that was different than what American is, I just assume. Oh, like whenever you watch a commercial for a bank and it says, we're not like other banks. We don't something. And I'm learning about my bank through that commercial. I'm like, does my fucking bank do that? I don't like that at all. And then you call bank and they say, well, we do that because it was happening with the food. like when i couldn't get splenda i was like oh no there's a reason why well what do they know what are the what if they're not letting it here they only like that's not good and then i go and try to like bacon i'm gonna get some bacon they bring out canadian bacon i'm like i'm a strips guy yeah all the time yeah it's like well they don't even have those here it's like well what the fuck happened even the coffee coffee's so good feels like we could do that with coffee here no i don't I don't know how we aren't.

3:13:43No, you can't. Can't do any of that. Too much money. You take a shot of espresso, it's fucking diesel. Diesel. It was the same in Spain. I was taking an espresso shot. I was fucking zinging. It was unbelievable.

3:13:53Pat McAfee:I've only quickly stopped through Spain. I've never been to Italy. That's the longest I've been in another country, I think, there. Other than America, obviously, thank God. Well, turns out. Whoa. What? No, let's not get crazy. You want to come back to America. Trust me. But, I mean, if there's one thing that would affect your life more than anything, it would be the food. It's so unbelievable. It is. Frustrating. It was so good. So we went to Donnie's. Don's? I think it was called Donnie's. It was like American food. Donnie's? Donnie Baker's? Donnie. It was Donnie. Definitely Donnie. And up there, they got, like, decks, big decks.

3:14:31Pat McAfee:And then there's, like, restaurant with front patio that's, like, kind of fenced off, but you can walk in between. and then restaurant with their front patio. So you like walk through other restaurants basically to get to one. We sat down at this one place that was packed. We're like, this place must be good. Let's sit there. And then we saw a sign for Donnie's. It was like pizza, pasta. It was like American food basically. I'm like, we should go see what American food is like super healthy. Like if all the laws were to be passed to get our food like what it is over here, we should go check that out at this Donnie's guy.

3:15:04The future is bright if this happens. mozzarella sticks were fucking unbelievable it was breaded mozzarella it was actual breaded mozzarella in there it was so fucking good the pizza ridiculous the pasta outrageous how about just bread in general like if you were just eating a plain piece of bread yeah I thought to myself what the fuck is in our bread that I could just house this bread and it feels good meatballs this doesn't piss you off you guys are just telling us stuff that we're never going to fucking half. I'm bummed out. Hey, guys, I got this fucking unbelievable. I'm just telling you this exists.

3:15:43I'm surprised you guys aren't getting pissed because it's like you've experienced the other side. You saw what I ate this morning. I'm very worried to go dive back into whatever. I honestly don't know what to do. Now, granted, you give me a couple days here, I'm going to have a sandwich. Yeah, and then all you're going to think is damn, I could eat this same sandwich in a different country. No, don't do that. Don't do that. You're going to have a terrible shit. That's exactly what's going to happen. It's going to be otherworldly how bad it is. And then you're going to say, okay, I'm back. Guess who's back.

3:16:13Bingo. Yeah. Back again. Dump it. That's that shit. Yeah. Diarrhea's back. Yeah, tell a friend. Tell a friend, bitch. And I'm back for good. Taking that long ride? I don't think so. I will say that was the biggest clear difference between us and them. was like the food quality was just so good. That sucks. Went to like a small cafe and these eggs, you see the person making it, it comes out perfect. It's like, what are these eggs? Eggs, mate. You guys don't get it. Your food is... Were there a lot of American-made cars? Fuck, I don't know.

3:16:50Pat McAfee:I always observe that when I go somewhere else. I saw a Ram truck. I saw a Ram truck. That was cool to see. I did see a Ram truck. It's the official truck of down under. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Was it Aussie driving it, or was it one of the people that were just over there temporarily? There's not a lot of Americans over there. Okay. There's not a lot, because it's a far trip. At least from my experience. It might have been... Would make sense, because you literally can't... You can't talk to any family or anything. Yeah, you can't live on... Yeah, it's hard to do Australia if you're an American, strictly because of the time.

3:17:21You're pretty isolated. But if you were to take family and go from, like... What's the closest place? Where do people come from?

3:17:28Pat McAfee:Asia. There's a lot of Asia influence. A lot of Asia influence there. UK, a lot of Europe. We had a guy named Ricky was working at TFP, the gym. He served us breakfast, lunch, and dinner one day because we were just hanging out at his place. Stanicki? He was from, no, I don't know his last name. Ricky had a lot of sauce, though. He was from Scotland. He was a great man. There was a lady named Kim that was there from England. And then there was a couple people from Asian countries that were working there. It's like that is kind of it felt like a lot of Asia influence in Australia. English, too.

3:18:03Just from way back. Yeah. In the English way back. Yeah, it was cool country, man. Far, dude. Yeah. So far. Hike. But, you know, if you can power through the first seven hours. So if you get a flight that lands in the morning, OK, lands like 6 a.m. For instance, our flight landed in Melbourne at 6 a.m. So, 1st Sergeant Gartland goes, I've done this before. We got to stay up halfway through this. We're falling asleep. We're waking up 6 a.m. We're Australian. And I was like, in theory, genius. This is a good idea. Now, staying up for the first seven hours after I've been doing a day, that's 20-some hours of staying up now.

3:18:44You're at 20-some hours, and you're up in a plane where everybody else is asleep, and you have no Wi-Fi. So, there's some real mental toughness checks there through those first seven hours. once you get though to a sleepable amount of time then you're you're loading up on everything that is putting you to sleep whatever your choice is yeah whatever that is loving a choice then snoozing hard and then they're waking you up right before you hit the ground we hit the ground we were up like 6 a.m it's like all right i woke up for the day so we didn't get fucked for like multiple days and then coming back same thing but it's hard to stay up yeah to get there yeah it's hard because even if you nap for a little bit then you're up then you nap again you're kind of just like you're not really but boy coming back i saw 5 222 miles to destination and i was exhausted and i look over first sergeant garland and he's over there just fighting the whole thing he didn't even download anything on his phone just staring straight what do you mean he raw dog yeah just looking straight the whole time.

3:19:45He raw-dog fucking 16 hours. There's movies in the thing. He goes, I don't want it. He watched the flight map. Sicko. That's awesome. Good for him. People are different. Sick fuck, yeah. He's like, I like this. Oh my god, he was so funny. He was so funny throughout that entire thing. We were around each other a lot. It was like towards the end, we were like, we've been around each other a lot for 10 days just dropped out of nowhere haven't really seen him since high school like would see him at different like gatherings and then all of a sudden we're 10 days different country nobody else to talk to here you go good luck out there oh yeah and put your fucking seat belts on as soon as you get in the back seat of that car it was awesome it was a fun trip man i would recommend australia brisbane olympics 2032 i think i think we will certainly try to do something yeah 2030 i'll put it in my calendar sounds good sounds good i'll throw it in there perfect you're dead serious yeah dead serious you should have seen how many people i told coming back for the olympics coming back i thought i was messed up i thought i messed up the math in my head or something for a second but no i didn't oh yeah constantly for the future concierge people We went to the hotel.

3:21:05Great people. Good vibes every time we walked in there, no matter what time it was. See you guys. Come back for the Olympics. All right. We'll see you then. Fucking out. Seven years from now. Book a hotel like Michael Scott. Take call back. I must have told 100 people I'd see them at the Olympics. That's a good move. Fucking so many. Smart. This is really good food. I'll see you guys at the Olympics. Opening ceremonies right around the corner, guys. I'll see you there. I'm pumped, man. I'm telling you, I sold it, though, as if. like it was next year. Sure. But everybody should start planning now.

3:21:39Already am. Okay? Already looking into hotels. I got to hotel. I know where we're staying. Perfect. Don't you worry about that. We're actually calling up Damien Cavalucci. Okay? Damien Cavalucci, he's the owner of TFP and also surrounding buildings. This dude is a genius. This dude makes good shit. This dude put a fucking tree in the middle of his five-story gym. A full fucking tree. This thing is the tree of life. Genius. it's lit it's it's the vibes are just music not too terrible sure that was a bad way to describe

3:22:11Pat McAfee:it not too much you know not too not too you know everybody i think kind of likes the music that's playing even though a lot of people have headphones on if you don't still gonna feel good walking through you got fucking cold towels available everywhere you need it everything every lift altitude fucking room just a full fucking room that's at 5 280 feet you want to do some cardio in there die go ahead just do it we went in there gut check fucking hit that thing just see what we can do walked out you feel like you're actually walking on your whole body feels like this like a high watch walking on clouds they have an elevator that goes right through the middle of it with stairs right next to it the elevator completely glass okay we're in that altitude room third floor getting after it elevators right over here tree of life is right here okay we're getting after it in the altitude room we see two other people on this movie we will not say their names okay because this is not good taking the elevator down the fucking building we're in a gym we are in a fucking you're in a weight room and they're damien cavallucci the guy that founded this place he made that a glass elevator so that you could see who is in the i think it's for service you know to take towels up to place food do that and everything next day scene it was hard not to just say you look like a fucking guy that would take a goddamn elevator in a weight room and when there's stairs directly next to it you fucking soft potato patch looking it's hard not to do that and i told them that was hard for me not to do that and then they started attacking me obviously because i don't care about time enough and they have places to go and yada yada This place was the hub of our entire operation, basically.

3:23:56And Damien Cavalucci took care of us. Cavalucci. Hell yeah, Cavalucci. Cavalucci. You got a lot of paisans around here? First question. It was up north a little bit more. Okay. Sure. I'll tell you what. I know one Cavalucci down here, and he fucking took care of us. That's all you need is one. I even bought a pair of TFPs. You guys saw those yesterday? Crocs, yes. TFPs. Crocs, yes. Confiante. Those are my TFPs. Crocs purchase that TFP. Confiante. Had to wear them at TFP Crocs on the shoe Says it on the little thing My wife's doing the same thing with me here This little song and dance Crocs are in style You can either buy into the Crocs You can buy into your Crocs I wore them at TFP, they're TFPs You can buy into your Crocs that you purchased at TFP Actually I purchased them down the road Because they were all selling them But we needed to get them I was trying to get a pair of slides you know because there's multiple hot tub cold tub sauna snow room and when we showed up without sandals we look like assholes sure okay so we said we're not doing that again we need to go get tfps so we're trying to get slides crocs tough to find over crocs is much better the crocs were very readily available so we got the team you're a croc guy it's cool they're a vastly superior machine.

3:25:15I wore them home on the flight home. Yeah. They were pretty nice. And you wore them in here. You're a Crocs guy. Good travel shoes. Yeah, but I came right from the plane. You'll never see those on my feet. You have. You need to run outside quick at your house. You slip them fuckers on every single time. Every single time. A.Q. Shipley is about to do a fucking full song victory dance about me having these. Yeah, bring you a pair of all those shitty shoes you wear. Yeah, that's the thing. You had a pair of shoes in there to put on. In where? In your office. Was that in Australia when I was... No, when you came back in here yesterday.

3:25:47I was wearing my TFP. You're wearing your Crocs, I know. I was still in the middle of my trap. That's why I'm just stunned. I was disappointed you weren't wearing them today. I have bad news for you. And my jaw dropped. You're never going to see those on the ESPN. Listen, if you don't want them, send them my way, man. You're not getting my TFPs. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Crocs. They do say Crocs, which makes no sense to me because those are TFPs. They got C-R-O-C-S right there across the top. And on the bottom. And on the back. I haven't looked at it. Yeah, I did. At least you didn't have him in sport mode.

3:26:20Well, can't wear him in sport mode because that would defeat the purpose of them being the TFPs. Yeah, plus. We're trying easy in. Leisure mode. If you wear him in sport mode too, then you're a fucking loser. Saw a guy working out in TFPs at TFP. I bet. Sport mode. Sport mode. Yep. He was locked in completely. It's tough to take him serious, but I understood that he was probably coming from the fifth floor where the bull was. probably put the elevator yeah two different locker rooms had a locker in both by the way nice just so we understand what all was happening full menu knew it ahead of time while food was coming tomorrow our special will be this yeah put us down for two of those can't hang out in my hotel

3:27:00Pat McAfee:room because it's directly connected to the fucking public pool so i was part of 14 different conversations of people that were having their day at a pool which was two feet outside of my door I learned a lot about a lot of people and there's a guy getting married and it sounds like some of his friends are not happy about that. I don't know how to anybody but they need to be more supportive over there. That guy needs to hear positive things. Been there. What? Be a friend to have something nice which is what we're saying. Yeah, exactly. We're all in this thing together. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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