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20:38Pat McAfee:McQuaid's covering the game. McQuaid is covering both games. I think McQuaid is on the call over there. Congrats to McQuaid. McQuaid! You need to meet McQuaid. He's an Irish legend. He does your job, my job, Ty's job, Gadell's job. God's job. In Ireland, he is one of the, him and the Irish, pro football Irish guys. They've been banging the drum for the NFL in Ireland for a long time. The pipe. They're getting, yeah, I'm sorry. They've been playing the pipe. They certainly have. chugging the beers a lot of the beers they've been splitting the G's playing the live music they've been doing the whole thing for the NFL for a long time and getting a chance to see them the NFL taking care of them I think is very cool I'm happy to see that let's say in the NFC North you just talked about Carson Wentz potentially being the starter for the Minnesota Vikings for the rest of the season is what I heard there's a chance is what I heard right there no that's not what you heard there but okay No rush.

21:43Pat McAfee:Got it. Got no rush to get JJ back, though. That is good. Got an experienced vet. That's why you pay him. Allegedly, they also offered Daniel Jones. They were looking for an experienced veteran for whatever happens, whether it's injury or, you know, if JJ just plays not great at all, which we still have yet to see. Very young in his career. I'm excited to see how that all goes. Carson Wentz experience could be A. Oh, yeah. A one. I mean, but it could also, I guess, have a little bit of a huh. Like Sam Darnold stepped in there and Sam Darnold lit it up. Different style of play. I think different style.

22:16Carson Wentz, you know, they say Brett Favre gunslinger, that guy.

22:20Pat McAfee:Okay, because he had trust in his arm, faith in his arm. Carson Wentz, not only gunslinger, he's a run slinger as well. Like he thinks his legs can beat everybody. He thinks his shoulders can beat everybody. He thinks every play he can beat everybody. And it is awesome when he does it. When he does beat everybody, it's amazing. Bouncing on the ball, throwing that thing into five, what it was, penta coverage. I don't even know if that's what that would be. Throw it into five people on somebody and still make the catch. Yeah, zero. Zero coverage. Yeah, that would be exactly what it is. And then if he can, Sam Darnold, not Sam as Carson, But if Kevin O 'Connell can wrangle Carson Wentz into all the positives, that boy's going to fly.

23:09Pat McAfee:Carson Wentz might get$150 million. He's might have an MVP on our hands. All right, let's move forward. Let's stay in the NFC North. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shefty, I'm going to have Foxy run this clip about the Bears, and I'm going to ask you about Ben Johnson here. I think our practice habits are yet to reflect the championship caliber team. He's a psychopath. I love Ben Johnson. I think this is awesome. him talking about practice habits everyone was kind of saying hey buddy you're the head coach like why don't you fix it then um that is a question for sure i think another thing would be what about the quarterback feels like the quarterback and the leaders of that team would be someone who kind of figures practice out what's going on in chicago shefty it feels like it's much worse much quicker than anyone could have really thought and is there a chance that we do see uh Agent Bajan, Tyson Bajan, play football this year?

24:01We're getting to the Tyson Bajan question in the early part of the program. It's not good, Chef. They're paying him money. Yeah. They're paying him money. Listen, Caleb Williams, they brought in Ben Johns to fix him. I'm not going to tell you that eventually. At some point, Caleb struggled. They couldn't get there. That's a down-the-line thing. And if they do, that's going to be quite the story and quite the conversation. I think right now, obviously, they're focused on getting Caleb Williams right. But there are issues. He has a lower completion percentage this season than he did last season.

24:32So, again, the idea was to bring in Ben Johnson, elevate Caleb Williams, beef up the offensive line, get everything humming. And I think this just shows you it's going to take a little bit of time for everybody to get acclimated. And when Ben Johnson's talking to reporters about the practice habits, sometimes Jimmy Johnson used to say that you don't speak to the media, you speak through the media. So I wonder if that's a case where he's speaking through the media to get a message to the players that our practice habits are not at a championship level. They're not where they need to be, and they need to be better.

25:05Now, you could say that to the team. You could say it publicly, and if people carry the message for you, he chose to go the public route. And these questions are all going to come up as long as they don't win. And now they've got Matt Iberflus coming in there. They're former coach. The Bears have lost six straight home games. There are a lot of issues that they have to quiet down. And the only thing that stops all that is a W. That's it. They don't win. The noise, all this noise, it's going to increase.

25:32Pat McAfee:It gets louder. But is the feng shui of the sweets going to be good? Remember Kevin Warren? That is perfect right now. Yeah, because Arlington Heights is where. Remember that from Hard Knocks? Yeah. I watched John Taffer on Bar Rescue, and the people will bottleneck here. But if we do this with this particular direction, we'll have good feng shui. I had no idea Kevin Warren was designing the suites in the stadium as well. He nailed it. Yeah, he did. If the feng shui is good, maybe they'll be good there. Maybe they're waiting to get to that stadium to be good at football. Or maybe Ben Johnson is just trying to put his.

26:04Pat McAfee:We have seen this before, right? Matt Patricia, whenever he went up to Detroit, tried to institute something that didn't end up working out. Cleveland, Mangini went over there. He had like 6 a.m. rookie Oklahoma drills taking place, I think. I heard horror stories about that coming through to our locker room. Flores, Miami. Flores trying never really worked out, but there has been obviously places where it has worked out. Yes. It's better than them. It's better that way, right, than letting the team walk all over you. I mean, if you suck and you never get the whole team to buy in, it doesn't matter either way.

26:33Pat McAfee:So that's what I'm saying. Ben Johnson's going to stay steadfast on who he is from what we've learned. The Chicago Bears obviously paid him a lot of money to be the head coach. We're assuming that they stick with him instead of, like, locker room needs to get on board with Ben Johnson, is how everybody feels in Chicago. No, it's his show there. He's the guy, and he's got a lot of security there, as it should be. He waited a long time for the opportunity that he wanted and that he chose. He chose Chicago, and obviously there are issues to address. That's why he was being hired. All right, let's talk about some issues to address.

27:06Pat McAfee:Got big money problems happening. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, earlier when Tom Brady first became a minority owner of the Raiders, people brought up the, you know, hey, this is a conflict of interest. This cannot happen. And then it kind of just went away until we saw him in the booth on Monday night with a headset on, and then the report came out, hey, he's actually talking with Chip Kelly five to six times a week, kind of breaking down the game plan and setting up what they're going to be doing on Sundays. And a lot of people weren't happy about it. From what you're hearing around the league or people that you're talking to, is this going to come to a head at some point?

27:40Because I assume that most teams think this is bullshit and they're irate about it. I think there are certain people, like there are coaches, that don't like it. But look, here's the deal. Tom Brady's on the production team. He's coming into your building. You can tell him whatever you want or not tell him whatever you want. And Tom is smart enough and has seen enough football that he can scout those players and know what he needs to know about those players without hearing it from the coaches, too. I understand the appearance of it all, the conflict of it all, but I'm not worked up over it like some people are.

28:14I don't think it's a huge deal to me. Like, he is a limited partner in the team. If he wants to go sit in the booth with headphones on, he can offer some shit. Call plays. Shit. Go do what he wants to do.

28:26Pat McAfee:It's his team. Score nine points this day. Yeah. Tom Brady's in the building. He owns the team. Might help. Can't score a damn touchdown. Let me get these heads set. I'm going to go Chip Kelly. Hey, you need to tighten up. What if he is just doing what Carly Ursa had been doing on the sideline? What if Tom just wants to hear what all the coaches are saying? Let me see how they're communicating with each other. Let me see how they're talking. Because he could just be trying to evaluate his own business that he currently runs and currently owns. With that being said, a lot of other teams saying, well, why the hell would we let – if this guy's strategizing for another team, why would we let him in?

28:59Pat McAfee:And then Ben Johnson came out and said, we don't care. This is what Ben Johnson had to say about Tom Brady being in the booth and then also having to play the Raiders. He wasn't the only one. He's affiliated with the Raiders, obviously, but you play next week. Are you going to do that for the production meeting? Are you going to be careful how much you divulge? I've been careful with everything I've said since the season started. I've been in pure coach-speak mode. Big pop. To me, it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like Tom, and we have a really good relationship. To Pat's question on Brady, you've got one of the most competitive people in the history of the sport prying around for information.

29:40It's through the world. How do you reconcile the conflict of interest that exists with all situations? Yeah. Like I said, I'm really not worried about it. I mean, we change week to week in terms of what we do. Schematically, he's going to be able to turn on the tape and see what everyone else in the world is seeing right now. Personnel-wise, really the same thing. It's not like I'm going to sit down with him and say, hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams or you might get it. Like, I'm not going to – there's not going to be any trade secrets that are going to be exchanged. But I just – I really don't think it's that big of a deal, to be honest with you.

30:13Pat McAfee:On that note, Shefty, our source says – have told us that a lot of those meetings with Tom have become coach, coordinator, player, PR person asking Tom questions about what Tom would do in situations or how – like quarterbacks have been taking the opportunity to pepper Tom Brady with questions, and he's been very open, allegedly, wanting to give back to the game so interesting storyline here that's developing but with how paranoid all nfl teams are and how paranoid nfl fans have become especially with what the patriots have been caught up in you know in very public stuff this is a perfect storyline for some real conspiracy fodder oh yeah but i think what the actuality of it right now now who knows what two years now three years from now four years from now however long this goes but right now i think it's a lot of people getting info from palm and uh what if that production meeting actually becomes Tom's spilling the beans on Chip Kelly's.

31:07Pat McAfee:What we like to do. It's interesting, Shefty. It really is interesting. By the way, everybody should be going to him for advice. Everybody in the organization. He can help everybody. He should be helping the coach some play calls and giving the personnel department ideas on players he likes and talking to the players about being more pliable. There's a reason he's the GOAT. And by the way, Ben Johnson wasn't the only coach. Brian Schottenheimer came out and said he doesn't care what he says to Brady in a meeting. And Sean Payton came out and said he doesn't care. So you're hearing a lot of head coaches.

31:39Are there people, other people who are leery? Sure, there are. I'm sure there are. Big deal. Again, if he's coming into your building, you control what you tell him. Just like if there's a reporter that calls up. Like, hey, what's going on with the draft? They're not going to tell him. Well, here's our board, Adam. We're going to tweet. We're going to tweet. Okay? okay but but don't tell anybody right like i mean you're gonna be selective with what you share

32:05Pat McAfee:and who you share it with use some discretion it's not hard i appreciate the head coaches coming out being like let's not talk about how those meetings are going actually because tom two minutes left we have one time out okay what are you uh i think that is what ba said the same thing but it was like this production meetings are all bullshit they're whatever you want them to be literally whatever you want them to be and we have coach mccarthy joining us here in the second hour. I'll be excited to hear his take. I assume he's on every coach's side that we have heard, but it is weird having an owner just waltz into a strategy meeting with people.

32:36Pat McAfee:It's the first time ever, but Tom Brady is the first ever of who the hell he is. Go ahead, AP Tone. Yeah, Shefty, I wanted to talk to you about 0-2 teams. I think there's different levels to 0-2 teams and the top level everyone I think assumes is the Kansas City Chiefs, but they are still 0-2 with tough games against the Chargers and the Eagles last weekend. Is there any sort of panic that you're hearing coming out of casey or is it or is it not panic at all because they've started season slows just like the patriots you start some seasons slow and they're probably going to be there in the end well i don't think there's panic there but there are issues that they have to work through and correct to turn it around because um we looked at it since 2000 i think there have been 118 teams that have started on three over the last 25 years and of those 118 won the 2018 Houston Texans turned around and made the playoffs.

33:30So, you know, the Chiefs' margin of error is gone, and they're in a division where the Chargers are better than people realize. The Broncos obviously lost last week, but they're expected to have a good season. The Raiders have been tough. So I think they're in a tough division and a tough conference. You can lose games, and yes, we all know the talent and brains that are there, so we expect them to turn it around. But, you know, if they happen to lose Sunday night in New York to go to 0-3, that's a little bit of a problem. And right now, you know, they're missing explosive players on the offense side of football.

34:06It looks like they have a chance to get back Xavier Worthy on Sunday night. Jalen Royals, the rookie wide receiver, could be back. That'll also help some. So they need some reinforcements until Rasheed Rice can come back in Week 7. But 0-2, you're behind the eight ball. And so you just feel like you're playing catch-up all year long. It's tough physically. It's tough mentally. They've won Super Bowls. They've got a champs mentality. They've got talent. But at 0-2, you've got some things that you've got to work through.

34:37Pat McAfee:Okay, let's go to tonight's game, talking about things to work through. Here's the full injury report that we have right here as we look. It's week three. Jeez. So anything that we need to look at here, anything before we make our picks at 12.5 or 11.5 that we need to know? Well, I think it's interesting that Storm Duck is out for the Dolphins. He was a starting cornerback at a position where they've already been decimated with injuries. And so, that's a tough one to lose the number of players that they have. Storm Duck, perfect name for a Dolphin. Yeah, absolute dog. Hey, Storm, it's a great name, and he's a good player, and they're going to be missing him tonight The Bills, obviously, missing those two defensive guys, Ed Oliver and Matt Milano.

35:25Those are two losses for the Bills. Obviously, Jalen Waddle, questionable for tonight with the show. They're hoping he goes. We'll see whether or not he's out there. If he's not, then Malik Washington would have to step up and they'd have to rely on other people. But that Storm Duck one is the one that I think, to me, if I'm a Dolphins fan, worries me.

35:43Pat McAfee:Okay. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty. Thank you for joining us, brother. Thank you, guys. Have a great day. You have a great weekend of football. You too, my friend. Numbers are up across the board for football as a whole. It's a good time. How about Michigan-Nebraska? How do you feel about that? Well, do you see the bet that those guys have for this weekend? The boys. The boys. Yeah, not guys. The boys. The busting with the boys. Yeah, the boys. The boys. Yeah, the boys. The boys. The boys. Somebody's losing their hair for the team that loses. Somebody's losing their hair.

36:13Pat McAfee:Yeah. And I think there's a$50 ,000 donation and also a concession of the 1997 co-title. Wow. Holy shit. Obviously, Michigan at Nebraska favored by one and a half. Will Compton has to feel very comfortable with this team versus any of the other teams since the Bustin' with the Boys have started the Bustin' Bowl. This one's the big one. This one's worth $50 ,000, shaving the whole head, and also a former national championship. This is a big one. It's a huge game, Shefty. Good luck to your Michigan team. Where's college game day Saturday, Pat? We are in Miami, Florida, Miami. Nice. Okay, great. Well, that would be fun to go down there for the Florida-Miami game, right?

36:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, it would be great. Shafty, I am pumped to get down. I've never been down to the U. Okay? A lot of games. Have you ever been there? I've been to the city of Miami before, yes. Played in a Super Bowl down there. But when you talk about the U, it's history to football, it's importance to ball. I've never been on their campus down there. I guess we're going to go check it out this weekend. and I can't wait. Florida versus Miami. There's some other games. Sure. A few. There were some other games that were certainly being chatted about, but I know the people at Miami, from my conversations with them thus far, very pumped to have us down.

37:33Pat McAfee:Very eager to have us down. The juice. I would say that is a good way to describe it. To the max. Juice for us to be down there. So that's really what I think is most important is, like, is the fan base pumped for us to be there, you know, because that changes the whole show. Well, but are they ever not pumped for game day in an area? Well, you're right. I mean, very shout out to the college football fans that show up to game day. We're very thankful for them. But there are some schools that get game day a lot. And, like, I don't want to say that, you know, maybe there has been a little luster lost in some places.

38:08Pat McAfee:Going to Bama and Georgia sucks sometimes. And even potentially Columbus every once in a while. Sure. Every once in a while we'll go there and people are like, because Tennessee, when it was ice cold, took game day. Those places get it a lot, so it's like they're very used to it kind of being there. So when we go to places it isn't normally at, which, for instance, last year, Indiana was insane. Awesome, right? James Madison a couple years ago, absurd. Absolutely absurd. Kansas was sick. Cal Berkeley was unbelievable. Now, obviously, big games have to happen those weekends, but Miami, game day hasn't been there since I've been a part of this, so I think there should be some real excitement.

38:49Pat McAfee:They were great last year. Now, with that being said, Illinois, Indiana, the place would have gone crazy. Yeah, it's a big game. I mean, the Boston Bowl. Yeah. Maybe the Boston Bowl would have gone absolutely ham. Missouri, I think, has – They do, South Carolina. Yeah, so that was a big one. There's obviously big games each week, so there's a lot of conversation here. uh but i'm excited to get down to miami they've seemed to be very eager to have us down there and obviously showcasing this miami team and also i guess napier's florida team because this could be the end yeah for sure the end if that thing goes the other way so it's there's a lot of implications this weekend but yeah we're in miami it's gonna be hot as hell shifty my last thing for you before you uh kick me out of here how cool hey there's no reason you can't come back and volunteer to punt for the colts these days like no reason just go right good one shifter Rigoberto Sanchez, when his time is called, will be up to fourth quarter, backed up in your own end.

39:47Pat McAfee:Got to flip field because field goal would win it for the other team. Rigoberto's first punt of the season. Yeah, week nine. Good luck out there, buddy. Go hit a big one, bro. Need you to hit a big one. He will. He will deliver just like you do every time. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. Joining us now, one of the coaches of the Bussin Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, we're incredibly lucky that he's been joining us every single week of this college football season. He's the host of a podcast called Haas Rules. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football coaching legend.

40:16Pat McAfee:He coached in the NFL, and now he loves his time with an undefeated Cornhusker squad, taking on Michigan at home as underdogs. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Matt Rule. Yeah, Coach! How you doing, Coach? What's up, brother? How you doing, man? Life is good. Thank you so much for joining us. How is life over there in Nebraska? Obviously, we've been winning by a lot. We've been setting precedent. Now we got a huge one where you're underdogs at home. What is the mindset this weekend? I think we're excited. You know, this is an excellent football team coming in. It's the Big Ten opener. And as you said, it's a ranked opponent.

40:50It's going to be a crazy atmosphere here. And we think we have a pretty good team. So we're expecting a heck of a game. A lot of fun.

40:57Pat McAfee:The bus and bowl is obviously what this has been dubbed because Taylor LeJuan, I think a five-star recruit out of high school, first-round draft pick, incredibly handsome, very tall, represents Michigan. And Will Compton, the walk-on, undrafted, busted grill, nine-year linebacker special team dog, represents the Nebraska Cornhuskers from the Bussin' with the Boys podcast. Obviously, they've tried to make this a thing for a few years now. This year feels like getting very real in the momentum. And I feel like you guys have your best team for this, and I think Michigan has being favored. They feel in a good spot as well.

41:32Pat McAfee:is this the perfect time for the bus and boat to actually launch into real in-season hype and expectation? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, we played the game two years ago and it was, you know, everyone was here. Will was here. Taylor was here and, you know, we didn't, you know, they were a much better team and it wasn't a very close game. And so, you know, it'll, it'll be a great game. Two, two, two really good teams. And it's what the big 10 should be all about. You know, good rivalries. You know, we're not too far away from each other. I'm sure they'll bring a lot of fans. Our fans will be ready, and it'll be a great college football game to go along with all the other games.

42:06Pat McAfee:All right, let's talk about the on-field stuff. Cincinnati was able to run a little bit first night, obviously, quarterback able to move as well. Is that the big conversation point for your team, is we're going to have to stop Michigan's run, even though Biff is the acting head coach, and he let Bryce spin it a little bit more than maybe Sharon, but is that the, we've got to stop the run, is the only mindset on the defensive side? Yeah, they're 15th in the country in rushing offense. And to your point, last week, you know, the quarterback was the leading rusher. So the things that bothered us against Cincinnati, you know, they ran for 200 yards and over 100 of that was the quarterback.

42:40Just, you know, Swordsby from Cincinnati dropped back and found a hole and ran. And we didn't have a great answer for it. Obviously, that hasn't hurt us the past two weeks, but we're facing, you know, we're facing a whole different animal now. And so big physical line, you know, that's what Michigan football is, right? They're going to, you know, they're going to run the ball and stop the run. It's true Big Ten football, and now they have a quarterback who can also run. So our guys are going to have to defend the run and defend the quarterback run to play well.

43:05Pat McAfee:Have you seen Bryce at Big Ten days? Have you seen this 17-year-old as of a month ago, now 18-year-old? Have you had eyes on this guy in real life? No, I haven't. It's weird now with the Big Ten because there's 18 teams. They do three days, and they do, I think, six teams each. Of the five other teams than us, the only team that we played while we were there was Maryland. It was Rutgers. It was Ohio State. It was a bunch of teams that we don't even face this year. So it's really like the NFL, man. You don't know who you're going to face. Even the Bussin Bowl, we faced him two years ago, not last year.

43:36We faced him this year. It's a rotating schedule, but he's really talented, elite recruit, and he's done a great job for them. We think we have a really good quarterback, too, and so excited to go compete.

43:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, tell me about Dylan. Obviously, this is the biggest game of the year, much more comfortable where he's at. Emmitt, obviously a dog in the backfield. Tell us about your offense a little bit, taking on this Michigan defense with, you know, a defense that hunts over there in Michigan. Always going to bring a lot of different disguises and everything like that. Yeah, I mean, it's Wink Martindale, you know. I mean, he's one of my favorite coordinators in the National Football League. He's brought it to college. I mean, they're elite up front. They can blitz. They can show a bunch of different stuff to you.

44:17But, you know, we have a really smart quarterback in Dillon. He can try to get us in the right play. He can try to get us in the right protection when he's fooled. He's done a great job. He's completing 77 % of his passes, yet he hasn't thrown an interception and really only one that even had a chance to be intercepted. So he's a really, really smart football guy. You would love him. He's a football guy. He's in here all week studying. Last week, we finished the game last week. I went to Vegas to watch Bud Crawford, and he's texting me pictures of him in his house. He's already watching Michigan.

44:46He's trying to outwork me. And so I respect our quarterback, Dylan, quite a bit. So it'll be a great chess match, him versus that Michigan defense with what they do.

44:54Pat McAfee:Hey, Coach, hope you're enjoying Allegiant Stadium in big Las Vegas. This is what I got going on. How about Bud? Obviously a Nebraska guy. Anybody can be a nobody. We had him on the show earlier this week, and he was talking about how everybody doubted all the people that he fought in his record. And he basically said anybody can turn into a nobody whenever he looks at it. And I've seen you kind of adopted that as well with the messaging that you're sending the players. I think your strength coach was talking about it in your office. Yeah, no, no, no doubt. Since I've gotten here, you know, I've always known who obviously Terrence Bud Crawford is, but getting to know him, I mean, he's elite.

45:28He talked to the team last year, let us out against Colorado, and literally there was no chance we were going to lose. Once he spoke to the team and he started walking up that tunnel, I was like, man, this is different here, you know, pound for pound king. And then, you know, I went to his sendoff, and he had so much respect for Canelo. He was talking about how they're both first ballot Hall of Famers, Yet when they went to the weigh-in, I showed our team, he wasn't talking about if, if I beat him, if this, if that. I mean, he risked his whole legacy. He was talking about when. You know, when.

45:55He's never even been knocked down. And so we went to that fight, man. I was just, I was so fired up, so happy. You talk about a big day for the Cornhuskers, man. I mean, he's got the Nebraska N on his mouthpiece as he's fighting. You know, we go backstage afterwards and see him, and all his guys are all wearing Husker red. I mean, he's loyal. And so it's a great message for our guys, man. And no stage is too big for you when you put the work in and you believe in yourself.

46:17Pat McAfee:Oh, I love that. Coaches being able to utilize anything for their own motivation, for their own team hype is glorious. Let alone when you got the guy literally in your backyard. I was talking to people that were in the boxing world a little bit. And they're like, you know, Canelo moved. He's, you know, he's living his life. He's had a couple hundred million dollars for a long time. You know, maybe things a little bit different. Bud still lives in Omaha. He's got seven kids. like he is you know still i don't want to say in the grind but still very much like doesn't even realize basically the money or hasn't done any of that and i picked canelo to win because i thought he was heavier on the show i did that and i got a call that night from like three people that were like yo yo yo yo yo yo yo bud still did you see bud did you see what he looked like at the way and did you have you heard the way he's talking it's like and he's american we need him right now it's like i messed up and then you watch that fight and it's like in the ninth round bud wasn't scared of shit bud was like let's go let's go hey he's heavier he's he should be a harder puncher than he's ever faced yeah let's go dance here i could lose the entire fight just with one catch and instead he stepped right into the fire it's like massive respect for both them but also definitely for bud and we saw that end oh yeah we saw that end a lot in the biggest fight of the century they're calling it and right right on the mouth i mean it's a it's a cool thing for the brand good for you tone has a question for you yeah coach you have one of the uh best play callers in the country, if not the best player caller in the country, a veteran in Dana Holgerson.

47:41But it was a very rare move. You brought him in, I think it was week 11 last year. How big was that for him and Dylan to get some actual live game experience last season before spring ball, before summer, and then the offense looks like it's flourished this year? Yeah, no one had ever really done it. We lost to UCLA a week after playing pretty well against Ohio State, and I called him and said, hey, I need you here. I need you to get this fixed. The guys are working hard, but we need something moving forward. And so I think it was pivotal because, you know, Dana had to decide if he wanted to be here this year.

48:15And he finished that year out and he said, yeah, I'm all in for this. Like, can him and I work together? And it's been an unbelievable relationship. And then he and Dylan, I mean, every team in the country came in and recruited Dylan. Hey, come play for us. Come play for us. And, you know, he believed in what we're doing. He's a Husker, but he also believed in Dana. that. And so I think that time, um, and then we kept the staff, like I said, Dana, do you want to change anybody out? How do you feel? And he's like, no, I like these guys are good coaches. We'll make this work. And so it's, um, it, to me, it's, it's been a, it's been a unusual move, but one I'm glad we made because everyone came back this year and we're significantly better.

48:49Pat McAfee:I bet Dana loves just being able to focus on the offense side of the ball than, uh, all the bullshit that comes with being a head coach too, at this stage of his career. Yeah. A couple of times I've said to him, like, what do you think? And he'll give me both perspectives like well you know you could do this do this but that's your job now he's so happy where's my red bullet yeah that's right let me go ahead and do that i gotta worry about one side of the ball for you that sounds like a you problem right there buddy i've been there before he uh he was great offensively for west virginia and obviously down to houston and him just being able to lock in on that without having to deal with all the politics and all the handshaking and everything like that feels like it's great for him sounds like it's great for you as well.

49:27Connor has a question for you, coach. Coach, with the last two weeks being not cupcakes, but teams that aren't ranked like Michigan, it feels like, you know, the videos we saw of you were very raw, raw, you know, getting the team going, making sure they stay locked in. Is it different this week when you're playing in Michigan where everyone is kind of, you know, zeroed in laser focused at all times because it is such a tall task? And, you know, you did just mentioned right there Bud Crawford leading Nebraska out and you went to Bud's game or match rather last week can we expect Bud maybe to lead the Nebraska Cornhuskers out on Saturday you know I don't know that I mean I tried to call him the other day and he's like hey I got the McAfee show right now bro I don't know I mean people have reached out to me I mean I'm talking about superstars that don't know me but they've called someone out like I mean what he's done is to your point it's a fight of the century chappelle front row yeah going crazy it's like that's one of the biggest yeah yeah i understand he's big now i mean so yeah so i don't know i don't know how that'll play out i mean he's got a lot of things going on but uh we know he's the day that he decides to come in uh we'll be here ready for him and you know i think the thing that the videos that we released i mean those were both at halftime and so to me like leading up to the game though you always have a different approach every week depending on who it is like if i have to sit here and yell and scream about hey we better be ready this is a you know i think everyone here knows what the university of michigan means and They know how good of a team this is.

50:51We better be pretty locked in. For me, that was about at halftime being like, hey, this isn't good enough. And year one, I couldn't have done that with all the team. Year two, we kind of could. But some guys would be like, why is he saying this? Year three, you see our players. It's one thing when they show me. Our players are saying, hey, this isn't good enough. And so we understood playing the teams we faced. We're trying to get ready for the Big Ten because the Big Ten is a different animal. And it starts this week. We've been working to get ready. On that note, Ty, I have a question for you.

51:20Yeah, Coach, I believe the Big Ten is currently like 42-5 or something like that in that neck of the woods. And a lot of people, you know, there's still – Top 15 teams, I think. Yeah, yeah, there you go. There's still a lot of the talk about, you know, the SEC being the superior conference. And then people were even cherry-picking early in the year saying, hey, look at all the cupcakes the Big Ten teams are playing. But every week when you have a game like this, does it almost – because we know who's at the top of the Big Ten currently, and we have a couple – you know, you guys are one of those teams who are kind of right there.

51:49Does it feel like a lot of these games are almost like playoff eliminators? Because you know every week in the Big Ten you're going to have a team that, hey, if we don't play well, we're going to get beat, and we might only have one or two opportunities for the rest of the year to actually solidify our chances of being in the playoff. Yeah, I think the SEC is an elite conference. I think the Big Ten is an elite conference. I think two things can be true, right? I think the one thing that the SEC has done a great job of is they've branded themselves as the SEC. And when you look at the last 25 years, I think four teams have won national championships.

52:21You guys can, I might could be wrong. Yet when we talk about the SEC, we talk about all the other teams as well. It's not just the Alabamas, the Georgias, the LSUs, the Floridas. It's the whole league. And so people, you know, the tier of guys that are like 9 and 3, 10 and 2, they still get a lot of street cred when we do the voting and all that. You look at Illinois last year. You know, took Penn State down to the wire. They finished 9 and 3, and they're barely in the conversation. And the Big Ten, we talk a lot about the top four teams. But, you know, this is the, I said on a podcast, house rules, not the free shout out, just joking.

52:54But I said, like, you know, Division I football is the only football league where weather doesn't have an impact in the offseason, in the postseason. Like in the NFL, being in Buffalo, being in New England, being in Kansas City when it's cold, like you have to play through people's homes. In the FCS, Montana, North Dakota State, those places matter. The Big Ten, man, you got to go on the road. You got to play in the weather. You've got to plan differently. We're trying to plan out going to Maryland and coming back. We're going all over the country. And so I think as a league, we have to do a great job of talking about the Big Ten, not just Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon.

53:26Those are great teams. But Illinois, Indiana, USC. There's a Washington play for the National Championship two years ago. Hopefully us. I mean, there's a lot of them. So to your point, you don't have a lot of free chances if you're not in that upper conversation. But there's really good teams in the Big Ten. I think the Big Ten is really strong top to bottom.

53:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think the conversation is going to change. I've mentioned this a couple different times. I don't know if you've heard me say it, so if I said it to you, I apologize for repeating myself. But all of a sudden, whenever the ranking happens at the end of the season and the college football playoff is being talked about, we have an SEC team, a good SEC team, traveling into Big Ten. And the style of roster that you have to have in the Big Ten at that time in the most important ball certainly paid off. Going to have to be a little bigger. Can't be as fast. You've got to have a little bit more physicality.

54:10Pat McAfee:You can't just run four threes everywhere because it might be negative 55 degrees or whatever the hell it was at Ohio State for that game. So interesting dynamic, obviously, being added into it. Everybody understands the Big Ten and the SEC are at the top, but the Big 12 got rich rod. Let's not forget that. And the ACC, we'll see how it goes. Hey, last question here quickly because I need to get your opinion on this. I've talked to a couple different coaches now about the transfer portal going from two times a year, both in December, January, and then also in May or April. I forget which one is spring and a winter one.

54:41Pat McAfee:They've cut it down to just one transfer portal, and it'll be the one in the winter, okay? What are your thoughts on the December, January, in the middle of college football playoff transfer portal being the only transfer portal window? And what are your thoughts on going from two to one? It feels like everybody's on board with that. Yeah, I think it needed to go to one. You know, you would negotiate with a player, and all power to the players, but you would negotiate with a player in January, December, January, and then have to renegotiate three months later when there's no, you know, you haven't done anything.

55:09So that doesn't happen in the NFL. And so it should be once a year, you know, you make a decision and then you play that year out. Number two, I, and most of the Big Ten coaches wanted it in April and May because, you know, we pay the guys July 1st to June 30th. So in the NFL, like the league year ends, you know, you get paid for the year. We're going to have in college football, we're going to have players getting paid by two different teams in the same year. It doesn't make any sense to me. And we're doing it that way because basketball, you know, everyone's using the same money. So it doesn't make as much sense, but I would have had the portal in the middle of September for all I care to get one portal.

55:44It's better for the players. They don't need to be transferring twice or in the spring. I mean, I just think it's way better, but I would have done it in May. Yeah, I think the playoffs should never be touched by players saying to themselves, you know, am I staying? Am I going? Last year, Penn State's backup quarterback left in the middle of a playoff run because, you know, he had to do what was right for him. I'm not saying anything about LeBoa. So just those things shouldn't happen, in my opinion, with the portal. But some really powerful coaches wanted it. They wanted it in January. And, you know, no one asked me.

56:12Pat McAfee:Okay, so on that note, everybody I talked to would have preferred the April-May one. Everybody preferred two to one. Everybody's like, need to only have one. Everybody agreed on that. But everybody, to your point, was like, the one after spring feels like, so we know what we have. And then also, we don't worry about the playoff conversation. Nonetheless, it'll all get figured out, right? Always does. Well, we'll see. Always does. You're the man. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Nebraska Cornhusker football team taking on Michigan this weekend in the Buston Bowl, Matt Rule.

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58:03Pat McAfee:Football is the greatest sport on earth and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chit chat about it today. The week three of the NFL season will kick off tonight as an AFC East battle will captivate us all. Will the Miami Dolphins show any fight and cover anywhere between a 12 and a half and 11 and a half point spread? Or the Buffalo Bills continue to be the team that we all think they could be this year? the most dominant team in the entire NFL, will the reigning MVP, Josh Allen, continue his back-to-back MVP run? Or will Tua Tonga Valoa and Mike McDaniel figure out how to be a football team again and win against the Buffalo Bills and change the trajectory of their entire season, maybe their careers?

58:43Pat McAfee:We shall see in front of a captivated crowd up there in Buffalo that'll be celebrating the hell out of the last year in this stadium before they make the big move to the Big Bison Stadium that is right across the parking lot. Tonight, we're in for one on Amazon Prime. We got Kirk Herbstreit, Al Michaels, and Kaylee Hartung on the call. And then for the kickoff show, dogs everywhere. And look at everybody. Richard Sherman's there. What? Witt's there. What? Fitz's there. What? Chris is there. What? Tony Gonzalez is there. What? And all the other participants. What? In which there are many. Mm-hmm.

59:16Pat McAfee:They always got some gimmicks and games to play. Yeah. And then the post show, if you're up after the game, they do a full. Oh, yeah. Until like 1, 2 a.m. That's a full thing there. If you just happen to be a little bit of a night owl, they will certainly take care of you with a nightcap, I do believe. Not that nightcap. Right. But Primes. Yeah. Exactly. Two shows with nightcap right now. Yeah. Okay. I think Primes is, yeah, you get it. A little different. TNF nightcap. No doubt. There it is. Vastly different shows, though. That's one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone. The Talks at Tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.

59:50Pat McAfee:And joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, He's a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's in the middle of changing his hairstyle. You can't tell because how good he looks. AJ Hawk. Hasn't even been a topic of conversation over the last few days. I think we've gotten to a good stage of it all. How are you doing, AJ? I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? I really enjoyed the Ram truck advertisement you guys ran a little bit earlier. Well, we did run that. Yeah, we ran that. That was a prerecorded advertisement that had to get approved, obviously, by all parties and signed off on.

1:00:24Pat McAfee:I'm sure that really moved some Ram trucks today. I bet it did. I assume people are going down the line to get themselves a Ram truck. Tonight, though, AJ, AFC East battle. Everything negative, seemingly, about the Miami Dolphins are my thoughts, especially after watching them. Now, the Indianapolis Colts might be the greatest team in the history of football. That is TBD, period. Not question mark. Not mockery voice. That's actuality, brother. Danny Dimes is on a loaded roster with an offensive guru, but they made the Miami Dolphins look very bad to start the season. Very, very bad. Not a great way to kick off an entire vibe run for a Miami Dolphins team that was maybe entrenched in a little bit controversy.

1:01:01Pat McAfee:First time that Tyree Kill has been on that team, he's not been named captain. Obviously, at the end of last year, there was what there was, where he said, I don't know if I need to be here. Then Tua came out this year during training camp and said, you know, it takes a little time to heal from some things that are said. And it also takes some time to heal from shipping all your pro bowlers out of town and seeing if you can be a football team. Jalen Ramsey, John O'Smith, Calais Campbell, you name it. Get the hell out of here. We don't need you. How's the team going to be? Well, they start out 0-2, put up a lot of fight against the Patriots last week.

1:01:28Pat McAfee:Will they do the same against this Buffalo Bills teammate, Jay Hawk? I mean, I think they are definitely going to put up a fight. I mean, I think I said a couple days ago, like, this is a great opportunity for the Dolphins. That's the way they have to approach this. Yeah, we know they're up against, what, 12-and-a-half point dogs, maybe even more, depending on where you look. but if the Dolphins just think of what it could do for their season if the Dolphins find a way to win this game this is like a turning point we're going to go one way or the other and if this is one of those years that we can hopefully have some kind of success we'll look back on this week and say hey there's where it kind of turned around and there's where we find a way to put it together against a great Buffalo Bills team I know we're talking about the season and everything like that and I don't want to be dramatic okay not a dramatic person No, never happened.

1:02:14Pat McAfee:I don't really. I wouldn't overreact to anything. No. Not in the moment at all. No. But you're talking about maybe career-saving nights tonight? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you mentioned it. I think if the Bills throttle the Dolphins, like I don't think it's crazy that both those guys get fired. Yeah. Already, Ty? Like this early, Ty? I don't know. Connor mentioned it earlier. Week three is so early. But if it is a drumming on. I think there's a chance. I really do. especially with how flat they were against the Colts for it being week one. And then they basically gave away that game last week. Like Gumpy said, hey, they just got to be competitive.

1:02:51If they get beat by 28, four touchdowns or three touchdowns tonight, I think there is a chance that at least McDaniel gets fired.

1:02:58Pat McAfee:I think I'm being a little dramatic, but it's very early in the season. But we happen to be around a Dolphins fan. So I think that is why maybe we cover a little closer. Could be. It's just like the Detroit Lions before they became the brand new Lions and they were still the same old Lions. We covered the Lions strictly because Foxy, who is here, was a Lions fan. So I would like to watch this Lions team so that I can understand what mood he's going to be in and maybe talk shit to him about what's going on with his emotions and feelings. So we've been covering this Lions transition and change very close.

1:03:29Pat McAfee:Long time. I'd say close to anybody that has had, although we were just a small regional show, much closer following the Detroit Lions here over the last five years than anybody else. I will say that other than local media talking about the Lions. You guys witnessed the heartbreak that Lions fans went through for all those years. You understood it, so then now they're good. It's awesome. Yeah, it's a brand new Lions. Now, with the Dolphins, it's the same thing with Gumpy. And boy, I remember the excitement when this era was starting. Oh, man. Trading for everybody, signing everybody. They're going to win a playoff game.

1:04:00Pat McAfee:Paying people. Remember, there was rumors. All alleged, we did not make this up. this has been reported out there there was rumors that maybe the owner was trying to lose games for the Dolphins yeah this came out after the season a season in which Gumpy who's a Dolphins fan said it feels like they're trying to lose so then when the owner comes out allegedly was potentially this is all reported we're not making this up this was alleged we did not this is the thing was telling the coach, I'll pay you more money if you lose some games. So the fans have to go through that. Fans have to be like them.

1:04:39Don't even want to win. What the f...

1:04:43Pat McAfee:Can we get some money maybe? For us trying to... How does this even become a thing? Not saying it's real. I'm just saying it was talked about. So for that moment, from that moment of Gumpy's fandom, when it's like, I knew it, they're definitely trying. They're not trying to win. That's of course. Then that gets debunked, goes to court, whatever the case is kind of disappears whatever happens there i don't know other stuff started coming up yeah a little bit more prevalent in that particular story but from gumpy at that moment of life when that was being alleged once again not real i don't think i don't know actually we don't do we know not sure i never find out yeah i don't not real we'll say it wasn't real allegedly yes and no but it wasn't real okay we'll say it wasn't real but at that moment when it was being reported gumpy was down here i committed my whole life they're not even gonna say i'm sorry Not one time.

1:05:30Pat McAfee:What's that about? This team, I've given so much to. They're down here. Then McDaniel, Tyree Kill, they pay him the most amount of money on wide receiver. We're not paying money to lose. We're paying the most money for a weapon on the offensive side so we can be explosive. So that ride, just watching him go from the depths of hell all the way to euphoria, Dan. And then now what we're staring down week three with this team is just, it's heartbreaking for our guy, Gumpy. And he painted too many ships for him to be this heartbroken week three in my eyes. I think that he probably represents not all Dolphins fans, but at least some Dolphins fans that are like, man, are we ever going to get it right tonight?

1:06:10Pat McAfee:I guess we find out if they can correct it or if we're on a path to full rebuild. Yeah, and that's what stinks too. Taking us back all the way there when it was the Flores situation was crazy because then I remembered the first initial McDaniel thing. like Gumpy wasn't sure about Tua really no one really was because he wasn't getting a fair shot McDaniel comes in he's like hey you're the guy like I'm going to make you great Tyreek Hill they also signed that year was the number one free agent was the left tackle Teron Armstead they signed Armstead they got a good old line all of a sudden like going back to that time trading Jalen for Ramsey trading for Bradley Chubb that year during the season had it all when did it go bad though when did it start going bad Last year, right?

1:06:54Pat McAfee:Last year, the end of the season, I think, is when it really started. That's a good question, AJ. Would that be when it was, Gump? Yeah, Tua's record over the last 16 games has not been good. Like, actually, like every other season you could say if Tua was hurt, we were bad. Whereas the last little while, even if Tua's healthy, we are bad. Like, we haven't been a good football team. That is the biggest worry. This is the first time in as long as I can remember, all the Finns faithful agree everybody's pissed. Okay, I like that. Usually there'd be some people love Tua, some people hate Tua. The whole fans, all of them are pissed at everybody.

1:07:31Did I see Tua on that mountain? He was at the top of the mountain. Tua was on Cuck Mountain. You've seen a lot of Tua. The tweet actually said enough is enough. He's finally made it to the top.

1:07:42Pat McAfee:Was I on that mountain one point? Years and years ago. I was on that mountain one point, which means I am enemy number one, basically, of the Finn fan on the internet, basically. That's what it felt like, at least whenever I got put on there. It was an honor to not be mentioned amongst the Mount Rushmores of Cuck Mountain down there in the Finns family. It was nice that I got out of there because I did become a believer because I think you became a believer. They put two on there now. Wow. That's how you know. That's how you know. It's over. That's how you know. It's a big one tonight. They're going to go Dolphins.

1:08:14Oh, man. What's that? Just going back through it again, not to mention just like the ups and downs of the concussion stuff. Oh, jiu-jitsu. Yeah, going all the way back to when it started with Josh Allen to the prime time with the Bengals where he got slammed by the D-tackle. It has been quite the ride. And then he came back from that, too. It sucks. But they're going to show fight. 12 and a half.

1:08:38Pat McAfee:Yes, they are. We are Tua fans. We are Dolphins fans. It has not looked good. But almost beat the Patriots last week. I GPT'd earliest firing since 1990. Scott Linehan for the Rams was fired after 0-4 start in 08 Dennis Allen 0-4 start in 2014 Joe Philbin a 1-3 start in 2015 and Bill O 'Brien an 0-4 start in 2020 Okay, so it feels like you're going to make it at least four games Philbin was in Miami as well That was him getting fired by Miami And is that when MCDC won an interim? Yeah, I believe so, not positive Alright, wild times, obviously Dolphins had MCDC in the building And Ben Johnson Ben Johnson too Well, we'll see Yeah, you're right.

1:09:18Pat McAfee:I mean, we'll see how that all goes. We have some breaking news, AJ. What happened? What happened? Greatness. Yeah, I'm trying to ask. Greatness happened. Do you remember the announcement of the WWE and ESPN partnering, the world's greatest entertainment company, sports entertainment company, going with the worldwide leader in sports, finally coming together to become a superpower partnership of sports and entertainment? Do you remember that announcement? I do remember. So then you know that Wrestlepalooza this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana, at Gainbridge Fieldhouse is kicking off this partnership, and it's going to be a massive night.

1:09:52Pat McAfee:You know that, right? Yes. The show starts at 7 p.m. Eastern time on the ESPN app. WWE is bringing it in a big way. John Cena, Brock Lesnar on the marquee. You have, in a lot of people's eyes, the greatest of all time in John Cena, A man who had a 20-plus year run at the top where he didn't miss a show. An absolute workhorse. A man who is absolutely shredded. Goes from being a guy laughed at, basically, who worked his ass off, to becoming the guy in the business for over two decades. Then obviously goes into Hollywood, takes over, does his thing. He's on his last run right now. In the WWE world, he's saying thank you to him all across the world.

1:10:37Pat McAfee:That's because he has done such amazing things. the guy he's taking on the alpha male of our species a man who was so fucking good at wrestling that he got to the top of it maybe at the youngest and the quickest in the history of wwe then whenever he conquered wwe he said in my body in my mind he's built to do more what do i need to do oh i'm gonna go try out for the nfl ran a 4-4 in jeans becomes a d tackle never playing the sport before for the minnesota vikings all parties agree if you were to put about a year of work into this two years of work into this you could potentially become like a hall of fame nfl player even though you've never played the sport before he goes oh thank you you know and then he decides that i'm gonna go and do the ufc becomes their world heavyweight fucking champion and beating people up his arms are so long his hands and fingers actually dangle and touch his shins whenever he's walking around he's built to be a destroyer he knows that and he's executed that he's become a goat in multiple places and him and cena are going to be battling for one last time here in indianapolis indiana and it's going to be must watch it's going to be show stealing it's going to be something that's talked about for generations and generations and that fight will be taking place at the top of the show kicking off the espn wwe era will be john cena versus Brock Lesnar here at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana.

1:12:04Pat McAfee:This is obviously gigantic. What a way to start. The best partnership I've ever seen and the smartest partnership I've ever seen between ESPN and WWE and also two goats going at it. So that's breaking news, AJ. And I'll let you kind of digest that and take that all in. But just know 7 p.m. Saturday, it's coming out with a bang, brother. Hey, do we know if the roof and the window will be open? It's a Gainbridge Fieldhouse. Come on. Atta boy, Hawk. Easy. Atta boy, Hawk. I assume the Warriors Legends are going to go in the stadium. So, listen. My bad. This would be a stadium match. This is a stadium match.

1:12:38Pat McAfee:Yes. These two are a stadium match. Oh, yeah. Wrestle Palooza, though, in Indianapolis has not – I mean, we had Triple H on, what was that, last week. It was like, hey, ESPN had a date. They asked if we would be able to do a show. We certainly love that idea. Here we go. So, I don't know if stadium was pitched or presented, but whatever the case, this is a stadium. This is a history box office. This is a must-watch fight and it'll happen to kick off the entire partnership. That's good shit. That's good shit. 7 p.m. Kick off the show, right? So, boom. They're coming out first. Yeah. Good move. Boom.

1:13:17Genius. Yeah.

1:13:20Pat McAfee:That old fucking thing. Yeah. And then John Cena, I love the way he's coming out with the black screen. Oh, yeah. And then we'll drop it into the... I wonder if it will be. What? I wonder if he goes old school. He just goes no black screen. Oh, you're talking about him going thugonomics? Going all the way back. Yeah, if he comes out with the chain and the hat, that'd be sick for sure. Your time is up. His time is down. That's right. Who knows? Anything can happen. That's what he said. That's Russell Palooza football. Anything can happen. What if he comes out as peacemaker? I mean, there's... Oh, my...

1:13:49Pat McAfee:And he just shoots him in the head. Ricky Stanicki, maybe? I mean, there's... Yeah. I think John Cena is probably going to be the one that shows up. But anything is possible. Is Dimes going to be here? Yeah. Danny Dimes, Saturday night? He's going to be screaming, thank you, Santa. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he sent his manager for this one as an honor being an Indian. Welcome to the city. Thank you for coming to the city, says Danny Dimes. I respect that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Super Bowl champion head coach. He's from Pittsburgh, which obviously makes us love him immediately. He is currently enjoying a year off from head coaching after coaching the Dallas Cowboys.

1:14:26Pat McAfee:What does the future look like? We don't know, but we're appreciative that he joins us every single week. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy. Yeah, Coach. Hey, gentlemen. Coach, you see John Cena, Brock Lesnar leading off that show. You all right with that, or what are your thoughts? I'm heading to Indy as soon as I get done here. Yeah, there it is. Hell yeah. Good place to be. Have a night. We would love to have you here, obviously. We're very pumped that you're coming. I'll let the WWE know. You might be sitting right. You might be in the ring. Might need you. Go in. Get in there. Might have you in the ring.

1:14:59Pat McAfee:You want to slide in there and maybe hit the ropes a little bit. Coach, thank you for joining us. Week three obviously kicks off tonight. AFC East battle. 12.5 points spread now at ESPN Bet and multiple other books. I don't even think you can get 11.5. 12.5 feels like a lot of points for a division game on a Thursday night. How do coaches view these short weeks? And if you're these coaches, what is your messaging to your team? Well, I mean, I've always liked the short week because, you know, I think particularly when it doesn't go great on the prior Sunday. But, yeah, this is a tough one here because, you know, division game, like you've already stated, Thursday night, you know, Miami going up to Buffalo.

1:15:40I mean, but, you know, you look at the numbers and you watch the first two games. I mean, Buffalo is really rolling right now. I mean, just the way the ball distribution, Josh Allen's playing at an MVP level. I just like the way their defense is coming on. You can see that at the end of the Ravens game and then obviously last week. So, you know, in Miami's, you know, they've turned the ball over a little bit. So, you know, I definitely think this is a favorable game for Buffalo, but that's a lot of points. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Coach, let's say you're trying to defend Josh Allen in this offense.

1:16:13What can you do? A quarterback like Josh that is so dynamic can beat you so many different ways. What are you telling your defense to do to try to contain this guy? Well, it's twofold. I mean, they do such a good job of staying on time. When I watch them play, you know, they're in sync. I mean, this is an offense that's played a lot of ball together. And I think that's really, you know, things I always watch for in September football. You know, you look at the teams that are playing well offensively. It's usually, you know, illustrated by a group of men that have some time on task together. And they look really, really sharp.

1:16:45But his ability to extend plays, you know, and when you've got quarterbacks that can, you know, exit through the A gaps or exit through the B gaps, extend plays and obviously turn them into huge gains. I mean, that's a tough task for the defense, especially early in the year. Defenses, you know, their timing, their rush lane discipline, all those things, part of that September football, you know, Miami's going to have to have it tonight because he's going to make plays, and then the other part of it, he can throw to any spot on the field. He can make any throw out there. So I've just been so impressed with him the first two weeks.

1:17:23Pat McAfee:Josh Allen, reigning MVP of the NFL. Every offseason, he's only gotten better. This offseason, he got married. We'd obviously like to congratulate him for that, but he's also gotten better somehow. This Buffalo Bills team, very fun to watch. And on the flip side, people are saying the Dolphins have gotten worse. Ty, has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, I remember a couple years ago in Dallas when you guys were in a little bit of a rut, you went with the Gallagher gimmick and you started smashing watermelons in the locker room. We all heard about it. We all loved it. When there is this much negative surrounding a team like there is the Dolphins right now, would you encourage Coach McDaniel, hey, maybe smash a few watermelons in the locker room, get the boys going, or is it a little early to bring out something like that?

1:18:04Well, in honor of the great Gallagher, he was 2-0 in my time in Dallas. Rest in peace on the way, great Gallagher. Yeah, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. But, no, you know, actually that was during the pandemic times too, so we were probably cased up a little bit too much, just thinking about it too much probably. But, no, I think, you know, you have to have fun. You've got to keep the energy up. I mean, that is so important, all part of the group dynamics and the challenges of every single year. So, yeah, I think the most important part is you want these guys clear-minded. But, you know, Miami's going to have to go.

1:18:38It's a division game. These division games are always tight. We talked about this a little bit last week. September division games, I think, are a real, real challenge. So they're going to have to really do a good job taking care of the football. And as you know, Buffalo just looks so good right now. So Miami's going to have to shorten the game, win the time of possession. The first two weeks, they've been on the wrong side of the time of possession. But division games are usually tight. You know, like I said, that's a lot of points to give up to a division opponent.

1:19:09Pat McAfee:Why is the division game normally tight? Because don't rosters change every year? Like, why is it always? I mean, we're a part of them with the Colts. They were always tight. And it's always like, well, you know exactly what the person's going to do. You play them so much. But what if it's a new OC, new DC? What if it's a new coach? Not that it is in this particular case. But why is it just, is it the vibe of the game just feels bigger so people are a little tighter? Like, is it the knowledge of the other team that just naturally comes from playing each other so much? I mean, personally, they're my favorite games of the year.

1:19:38I mean, they are the best games of the regular season. I mean, I know as a coaching staff, you always put time, you know, into the division games in those June weeks before you go on vacation. It just carries so much more weight. You know, plus the fans, the tradition, the rivalries, all that play into it. So there's nothing like the division games. You know, I know there's so much made of the night games and so forth, But, you know, the division games, just the competitive spirit is always high. You know each other fairly well, even like you've stated with the change of rosters. I mean, there's definitely a familiarity to your division opponent.

1:20:17Pat McAfee:What's behind you there, coach? What do we got? The photo. Oh, Roberto Clemente. That's it right there? You can have you a little look in your own town, yeah. Yeah, I love that. Roberto Clemente Bridge, my favorite all-time professional athlete. Hell yeah. Is that your favorite bridge? Is it my favorite bridge? Okay, that's a good question. I'd have to say the Homestead High Level Bridge. Good pick. That's a good one. The closest one to the house. Yeah, of course, Donary, obviously. There's a beard to show you right at the end of it. Pittsburgh, actually, most bridges of any city. Pittsburgh. In the world, right?

1:20:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, in the world. Bridges everywhere. I mean, it's architectural engineering marvel as you walk around town. That one right there, though, leads to a lot of good times. It does. And that one's named after a phenomenal human in the history of sports. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, we were talking about Daniel Jones earlier this week and how great he was against the Blitz, against the Broncos, and we talked about it with Bruce Arians a little bit and AQ Shipley, and they were saying like some of these teams, they don't have sight adjustments anymore and they don't have hots. I was asking you like overall, is that what separates a good quarterback from a great quarterback is against the Blitz, knowing your sights, knowing your hots, And is that why young quarterbacks sometimes tend to struggle coming into the NFL?

1:21:34Yeah, definitely. I think that's a great point. I think schematically, you know, when you do put together an offensive system, you know, we always talk about proactive adjustments. And, you know, some teams don't believe in having site adjust or a hot system built in. It's more, you know, make the protection adjustments. So it kind of varies scheme to scheme. but definitely that's something that when you go back and you look at your training and training camp because the live work, the live teamwork because the speed of the pressure is so important for developing a quarterback. Flipping to the other side of the ball and I learned this from Dom Capers back in 2009 when he came to the Packers.

1:22:14We were talking about the preseason. How much pressure to run in the preseason versus not showing your pressure and just playing coverage and in standard defense and the point that he always made which I still see it as true and I you know obviously use it on the other side of the ball offensively is a defensive player's got to learn to play to the speed and the time clock of pressure defense so having pressure defense for a young quarterback and the training component is critical and I think that's probably along with I think Bruce's comments is is a key is the key to their development can you

1:22:49Pat McAfee:tell me a little bit about confidence and what that can do for a quarterback especially when you come out like Danny Dimes, new home. Obviously, a lot of shit has been said about you. And then the first two weeks, you're playing damn near perfect football. Your choices, your options are all right. Your throws all on the money. Your decision-making on when to run, seemingly right. You're taking huge shots. You're bouncing right back up. It's like that's a great way to start a new relationship in life, but definitely with a new team, right? Confidence has to be a weapon for Danny Dimes and Shane Steichen at this point.

1:23:19No, absolutely. I mean, you get the big win over there in Denver, too, is awesome. No, confidence is really what it's all about. That's what moves the needle. That's what moves the needle for the player. That's what moves the needle for the offense, the defense, and ultimately moves the needle for the team. And then the fans and everything, you know, the external energy increases. But I'm really happy to see his success. You know, he's had some tough moments, but, you know, I always thought he was an excellent prospect, both in the pocket and out of the pocket. and it's great to see him have the success he's having in Indianapolis.

1:23:52Pat McAfee:Was it against you? We saw him just running, striding out. It feels like it was on primetime games, which is normally against him. I think the one year he had, what, three touchdowns over 50 yards? I mean, he can run. He can definitely run. I just think he needed a little more time in the pocket in the earlier days because he definitely has that ability. our source says close to Danny Dimes tell us that he's only 28 years old the body feels like it's only getting faster so enough with the wow surprise you can still run stuff you know because this weekend against Denver defensive end or outside linebacker I don't know who was within a foot of him he switches gear gets around this guy like it looked like a Tyreek Hill kind of like getting out of a phone booth almost and it was right in front of us I'm like I didn't know Danny Dime still had that.

1:24:41Pat McAfee:And then I was told promptly, 28 years up, what are we talking about? He's still young. And he got blasted before. We've seen him get crushed and pop up, too. Yeah, he's really hitting his climax here. And so are we. You know what I mean? Just like those glory holes. We're always looking for those glory holes. Right down there in Dallas, I've learned, the glory hole is what we're all seeking. Is that right? I heard Jerry Jones say that, Coach. Are we jumping to the oil business now, Pat? I'll tell you what, After learning I could buy an$800 ,000 rig and potentially make$100 million. I certainly thought about it.

1:25:13Pat McAfee:I've certainly thought about it. I don't know how the modern age is with oil, and I don't know if we're trying to find it still. I think we should. Sounds like it's the right move. But if I could get one of those rigs to get down there and cough like any mammal would, and then start to bleed and then start to hiss and start to howl out, and I knew it. I said, we found it. There's a glory hole down there. And this$800 ,000 rig just penetrated that thing beautifully. You never know what's on the other side. You never know. No, you don't. Because you might run into something you don't want to run into down there.

1:25:43Pat McAfee:That's why you keep your eyes off it. But every once in a while, you find that glory hole. And magic starts happening for everybody, right? That's what we're doing with Dallas Cowboys and we're trying to do? You're talking about the Cowboys or with the oil. The glory hole. Yeah, I mean. Go ahead. I don't know what you're asking me. I don't want to get in trouble. You know more. Whoa. No, we're talking about an oil glory hole. I'm going back to the production meetings. I'm sorry. Okay, Jerry. Jeez. Jerry, AJ, what is this guy's problem? We're talking about Jerry Jones. This week on a radio show, he explains what a glory hole is.

1:26:20Pat McAfee:Please run this from 105. Okay, well, I haven't seen this. 105.3, the fan. Glory hole talk. Jerry, his agent said, really, I'm getting him signed over there because I want to know Jerry's definition of glory hole and if it's the same as mine. That came from Jadeveon's agent. So could you just clarify that for him? Well, he knows it's an oil field term. It comes from when you're in the business of drilling wells and it's when you've basically made a big well and mentally or physically picture just drilling a well and all of a sudden having all the oil start coming out at once and going in the air, and that's when you've known you've hit a glory hole.

1:27:11Jerry, uh...

1:27:12Pat McAfee:Coach, how many times have you been either forced or heard the glory hole reference or metaphor to your football team down there in Dallas? Bring a guy in, start glory hole with this guy. Is that used on a regular basis? Is the oil terminology used on a regular basis down there with the Cowboys with Jerry Jones? Yeah, definitely. It's definitely a term and it's part of his great storytelling and analogies, both the oil business and pro football. Yes, definitely. I've heard it a number of times. So you have had to utilize the words glory and hole as motivation to a locker room in the NFL? Well, a lot of things that are said in the locker room stay in the locker room.

1:27:54Oh yeah, of course. That's a good call. Yeah, hopefully. So AJ can help me out here. But yeah, so definitely. I think everybody that's worked there has heard the term glory hole. I never heard it before this one. Oh, really? Yeah, I never heard it.

1:28:10Pat McAfee:But, you know, things aren't always staying in that locker room. As soon as your mallet hit that watermelon, we learned of it. Yeah. So, you know, we need to keep this shit tight. We need to keep the sheep a little bit tighter out there. Now, can we talk about the rooms that you do have and the rooms you have to monitor as a coach? in the most important position. We've got a lot of question marks going into this week. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Coach, a lot of backup QBs playing. We've got Mack Jones for Purdy, Carson Wentz going for J.J. McCarthy, Jake Browning going for Burrow, possibly Mariota for Jaden Daniels, and Tyrod Taylor going for Justin Fields.

1:28:44You were basically dominating with Cooper Cush when he was playing for you guys when Dak was hurt a few years ago. What is it like coaching and preparing for a team when you know you're going to be having your backup quarterback going in? And are you asking for some of your superstar players, maybe even your defense, to step up, have a big week? Or is it kind of, hey, let's keep this thing rolling. This is a train. Let's just get the backup in there and, you know, continue to play. Yeah, definitely. I would say it's part of the rhythm of the season. I mean, the 17-game season is real. in 16-game seasons.

1:29:22I mean, to see quarterbacks go through a whole season, I mean, that's the most important statistic for any starter in the NFL, let alone the quarterback position. As we all know, it's the most important position. So, yeah, when you talk about the backup quarterback position, I mean, philosophically, I think it goes back to your roster development. You know, in the old days, sometimes you like to have a different athletic profile to your quarterback to maybe have a change-up. I personally always try to prefer the skill sets to be as similar as they can because, you know, with the training regiments and being able to train all three quarterbacks, hopefully a fourth one in a room is so important.

1:30:01And I go back to the quarterback room. You have your starter, then you have your number two and your number three. They all have responsibilities, you know, during the offseason, during training camp and ultimately in season. So quarterback rooms are critical. who you have in that room, you know, as far as coaching, the diligence that go into it, you're really preparing yourself for this situation, you know, back when the offseason program starts, in my opinion. So it's all about the quarterback room. And I think every one of these guys that, you know, they're going to have their opportunity come Sunday, and they'll have the support, not only the quarterback room, but the whole football team.

1:30:42Some of the best leaders that I've come across have been backup quarterbacks before they you know before they got their ultimate opportunity

1:30:51Pat McAfee:as a starter can you talk about that a little bit more whenever we had andrew luck uh we had matt hasselbeck as the backup quarterback and he acted like a buffer almost for andrew as he was kind of finding his way in the entirety obviously you had success with andy dalton as your backup quarterback for dak cooper kush obviously had a good run cooper rush sorry about that cooper rush had a good run with you but having that veteran leader type person as a backup quarterback Outside looking in, some people can say, is there going to be a little conflict here on who's alpha in room? What have you experienced with maybe two top dogs in the same quarterback room?

1:31:26I've been so blessed throughout my career to experience it so many different times. Back in 1993, my first year, Joe Montana is the starter, but Dave Craig was the backup. Dave was incredible. Dave played so much football and is successful right up there in Seattle and so forth. So they complemented each other so very well. So in Joe Miss games, they've stepped right in there. Later in Kansas City, we had Rich Gannon backing up both Steve Bono and Elvis Gerback. And then he went on to a phenomenal stretch over there with the Raiders. I had Matt Hossbeck as a young guy as a backup to Brett in Green Bay.

1:32:07So many times, Aaron Brooks is a young guy behind Jeff Blake. Jeff goes down. He steps up. Aaron goes down, here comes Jake DeLome. So I've just been very blessed to have so many guys that were ready to go, bought into the system of always being ready, the development of each quarterback through quarterback school, which was a different era back then you were able to spend more time with him. So I've experienced it on a number of different opportunities, and the latest is obviously in Dallas with Cooper Rush. He actually did it for us two times, both in 22 and 24.

1:32:38Pat McAfee:Do you think you're the first guy that all those backup quarterbacks had ever heard speak with a Yinsser accent? It's a good shot because, you know, it's something I had to be conscious of, you know, during the week because, you know, as a head coach, you kind of, you know, don't always want to have to be in charge of calling plays, particularly in the headset. You'd like to be more, you know, mobile on the practice field, but I was told I had an accent and probably they needed to hear me. So, but yeah, there's a pretty good shot. Yeah, I love just the thought Aaron Rodgers talked about a couple times about you calling plays in the headset with the Inzer accent just sounding.

1:33:17Pat McAfee:So I couldn't even imagine how spectacular that had. Myron Cote dropping a play call into Aaron Rodgers. Oh, my God. Myron Cote. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, you always don't know. You are old school today. Yeah. We're paying our respects. Roberto Clemente. Absolutely. Joe DiNardo. Joe DiNardo, rest in peace. Joe DiNardo. Mr. Joe.

1:33:44Pat McAfee:he's the greatest Doppler operator of all time rest in peace Joe we appreciate you Joe love you Joe

1:33:55Pat McAfee:shout out to Joe rest in peace Joe Ty has a question for you about a lot about what you just talked about actually coach of all those situations when you look at San Francisco a lot of people have been saying especially the way Mac Jones played on Sunday against New Orleans. If he continues to do that and he looks really good and we know that Kyle Shanahan initially when they traded up to number three a couple years ago it was because he wanted Mac Jones and then through discussions and whatever happens they ended up going with Trey Lance. Is there ever a situation you can remember or do you think Shanahan might be going through this right now where you almost get enamored with the backup quarterback because he's playing so well and it makes it a little bit harder to go back to whoever your starter was?

1:34:40Well, I think the biggest thing is, I mean, it really focused on winning games right now. But going back to the draft process, you know, it's something that I learned from Ron Wolfe back in 1999. And he always talked about always trusting your grade on a player. You know, and the irony for Mac to come back around and then for Kyle and the 49ers to now get him as part of their team, I think you have to trust the draft process. Because when you look at the draft process, there's so much time and energy goes into where you put the grade you put on these young men at the time and then they have their experience that could be different from each opportunity, injuries, and so many things can go a different direction.

1:35:23So I think this is clearly a case of trusting their process and now he's having success there. And then with that, I think it's a great situation to be in for the 49ers because now you have two players that you feel really good about that can win and play at a high level. So hopefully Matt keeps going and keeps playing at that level. But I think this is a great spot to be in.

1:35:46Pat McAfee:You said trust your draft grade. That's a Trey Lance trait that you guys bring back to Dallas. You guys really liked him. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that'd be definitely an example of it. When Trey became available, it was definitely the conversation. We talked about the grade it initially had on him and the value that we thought it would take to get him there. So absolutely, I've seen it happen over and over and over again, where you've got to at least bring the player in. At least bring them in and take a look, have the conversation. And it's really, you've got to trust that draft process. So you think Shanahan after that game was like, we knew it, I knew it.

1:36:25Pat McAfee:After he goes against the Saints, he goes, I knew, this is what I thought, whenever we initially did that. And on that point, Trey Lance goes to you guys, you liked your draft great on him, you get him to the Dallas Cowboys. Currently with the Chargers, right? How do you feel about Trey Lance whenever your time with him? Oh, I think he's definitely on the up. You know, he's improving. I think he's getting to the point now that he'll be ready to be a starter in this league sometime. I was very high on Trey in my time there. I just thought he was very young, very, very raw, hard worker, you know, excellent athlete.

1:36:59I think he has so much more in front of him. I think you've just got to really look at these players here in the last five or six years. I mean, this pandemic and the things leading into it, I mean, I had a young, one of our youngest son, senior year was the pandemic. So, I mean, I think that time clocks on development can be a little skewed as far as guys. You see it, we talked about a lot in the offensive line room, letting those guys have an extra year to develop. So I just think your patience is something that we all wish we had, you know, in a development outlook. And I think Trey is definitely someone that's turned the corner.

1:37:39I really enjoyed my time working with him.

1:37:41Pat McAfee:I forgot there was a world stoppage of events and being around each other and everything. And crucial development years, too, whenever everything kind of changes. I don't even think, until you mention it right there, yins are genius, obviously, football. I don't think that has even crossed my mind about, like, football development for players because of COVID. Obviously, you think about life, people being locked in their houses and separated from everybody and people maybe getting more deep into the Internet and believing things and seeing things and yada, yada, yada. That's life effects. And then high schoolers not being around each other, so then interaction and how they feel publicly, that's a whole thing.

1:38:15Pat McAfee:The developmental years, obviously. I hadn't thought about football development, though, much. That is certainly a thing. Oh, yeah. If you go through Colts, what Colts got going on with AR at quarterback, and then you think about Trey Lance. I assume this is that other position. You said offensive line. That makes a lot of sense because that's a year that you miss out on that you certainly need in the development phase. Wow, hey, that was pretty profound. I want to let you know that. That was pretty profound what you just said right there.

1:38:44No shit. No shit. Go ahead, AJ. What you expect.

1:38:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, why for so long, why is it always so difficult, I think, to evaluate college quarterbacks coming out of their college program and making that transition to the NFL? I know so much relies on what's around a QB to make him successful, but it seems like since the dawn of football, it's really tough, and there's a lot of different opinions on who's going to be the guy at the next level and who's not. What do you think that is? Is it ever going to get easier? I think it's always going to be a challenge because of the access because you really, you know, the pro experience of getting access to really truly understand the guys is so important.

1:39:29I personally think it's a little, it's better because you're seeing more quarterback-driven offenses as far as them running the ball that's now transferred to the NFL where you used to have to project, you know, a quarterback that was, you know, in a primary, you know, run first, you know, throw a second offense, and how would he do in third downs and things like that, evaluate his drop back passing game and so forth. But I think you see so much more of the quarterbacks with the athletic ability being used in college that now is being used in the NFL. I think that part has gotten a little easier.

1:40:08But it's just like anything. I just know for years, and the video is so much better, it's light years compared. But in the old days, if you really didn't get right next to the quarterback and feel the ball come off his hand and be at the workout, you truly didn't know the velocity. Now you've got the instrumentation that there's so much data out there. Now you're on the opposite side of the evaluation curve of having maybe too much to look through and really sort down. Because at the end of the day, these guys don't, when you look at players that make it versus the ones that don't, I don't think it's their physical capabilities.

1:40:46I think there's so much more data and information where these scouting departments do an excellent job there. It's really the emotional development and emotional projection of how they're going to project to the professional sport life.

1:41:00Pat McAfee:How do you go about doing it? We've seen like rock, paper, scissors people do. There's a basketball shooting. They try to figure out the competition level, try to find out if they love ball. Like what is the goal of trying to figure out if they're going to become somebody that's an asset to your locker room or a turd, you know, for lack of better words. Is there anything you try to do in the process of scouting a player that makes you feel one way or another about what they could potentially be in a few years as humans? Yeah, I think, I mean, from the head coach perspective is different. I mean, but I think it's, you know, your scouting department.

1:41:30I just go back to the last one. I've been very blessed to work at two organizations who have, you know, played different in their scouting approach. but I thought both organizations did an outstanding job of clearly understanding the player. And hey, there's times where you may not have all the information that you would like to have, but it really comes down to the scouts and the whole process, the testing, and just once again collecting the data and having an understanding of how it's presented and setting that board the right way. But I thought both the Cowboys and the Packers did an excellent job in that area.

1:42:07Pat McAfee:We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. And I know you don't like to pick games. Obviously, you wouldn't want to do that or do that. But if you were over the last couple weeks with what you said, you'd be undefeated right now picking games on there. Congratulations. Congratulations. Two for two. Last week, you picked the Packers. Felt like that was going to happen regardless. They showed up for you. It was a big one. You didn't pick them, by the way. You said, I like green gold. So we put words in your mouth and had you pick the Packers. Tonight, I think I heard you say earlier, that's a lot of points.

1:42:34Pat McAfee:That's all points for a Thursday night game. How do you see this game going for us that we'll be picking games here in a matter of moments? I think Buffalo's going to win the game. That's a lot of points for a division game. Say no more. I'm going to go against the grain. I'm going to go with the Bills tonight. Oh, geez. Okay. Good night for the Blue. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. Good night for the Blue and White, you said it. It's good night for the Bulls. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. You're the man. All right, man. See you next week. Thanks, guys. Coach Mike McCorsey. Yeah, Coach.

1:43:10Pat McAfee:He's the man. The best. All right, man. I'm not making actual picks, right? No. He likes 12 and a half though, right? What are you asking me here? Well, he just kind of walked with a little bit. He's taking the bill. He's taking his good night for the blue. When Joe Denardo popped up. His face. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. He had some profound shit. We're on the opposite end of the evaluation scale or something like that where we know too much, where at one point we didn't know enough. We had to go see them. And then what was the other COVID effect and development of football? Didn't even think about that.

1:43:47Pat McAfee:Didn't even cross my mind because we had football during COVID, but there were some places that didn't. And there were some places, high schools and things like that, that maybe had two games or something like that because they couldn't get through all the COVID stuff. in a lot of the, I mean, California obviously had very heavy regulations during COVID. A lot of football players come from the state of California. You know, there's a lot of, I didn't even, that was pretty profound. Thank you. Yeah, that is, it is though. It hadn't even really crossed my mind. It is hard to be patient with these guys, but also just understanding that their development kind of got fucked by the world, actually.

1:44:24Like the whole, we're not even diving into that.

1:44:27Pat McAfee:But everything. Legitimately, the state of the world has affected how these dudes can play ball. I know the rest of the world, too. And that matters a lot more than just a game in a sport. I'm understanding that. But I'm talking about just in ball. I never really considered that. The only one that's still on the same team is Trevor Lawrence. You look at that entire draft class. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mac Jones, Justin Fields. Trevor Lawrence is the only one who's still there. And you could argue he had some of the worst development because of what he had to go through between the coaches he dealt with when it was Urban and then Doug Peterson, who had the whole play call and debacle.

1:45:03And now it's Brian Cohen already or whatever the hell his name is. Liam Cohen. There it is. I blinked on. I don't know why, but a lot of Coens. And then you look at Mack. He's bounced around. Fields is the only one who's actually gotten a true second opportunity to be a starter. and even then, you know, they're 0-2 and he's not playing this week. So it's one of those things where that entire COVID era, I never even once thought of that, just I think probably because the guys after them ended up being well who were young.

1:45:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, thank God I wasn't going through high school, college, during that stuff. Dude, especially with the Aussies. I had so much fun. Aussie punters and kickers. Oh, yeah. It would have been over for me, brother. Yeah. But also just life development. Well, like you said, they still had football in a lot of places, but can you imagine? It is nothing like it was the year before. It's football, but this isn't what I'm used to at all. Not allowed to be in meetings together. Not allowed to be in a locker room. Not allowed to really train or practice against each other. You could hear Big Ben at Acreshore.

1:46:07That's how different it was. They were hearing him yell, Slay it! Slay it! And they could hear him on defense.

1:46:13Pat McAfee:Hey, you guys are playing the Steelers next week? Yeah. Ben is just going to tell you exactly what everybody's doing. Just don't let him know that you can hear him because we're all kind of playing it. That's what it is. Act like you can't hear him. What's that? Act like you cannot hear whatever he's saying. Okay, please. As you slide to the proper leverage as the ball is snapped and you hopefully get interceptions and tips and over throws. Don't ruin this for all of us. Please, don't ruin this for all of us. We got him next week. Don't just act like you didn't hear him. He didn't care. 11-0. Yeah.

1:46:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, Ben Rolls-Royce. Don't got to stop him. I want you to know about it, actually. And then he probably, if we know Ben, now that we know Ben, he was definitely working that a little bit. Hey, when I say slain, I mean go. If I say hot route twice, go deep, bitch. You know what we're talking about. Roethlisberger's a dog, dude. His show is good. He was wearing a hockey helmet the other day. He was. He's really stretched his legs. Is it a tape job on a stick? Yeah, he's exploring the space, which we are grateful for. Him and Spank are doing it down there. And Chef, keep going, boys. Football is a good show.

1:47:13Pat McAfee:Great show. So my TV, when I do... So YouTube TV, probably like an app. Yeah. The TV I have, I got to go through YouTube. What? Then I got to go into... To the bottom? Yeah, to the left. Down to the bottom of YouTube TV. Really? That sounds horrendous. Yeah, I don't like it at all. And I know YouTube TV doesn't like that that's what I got to do either. But it is what my TV offers. And it is the only way I know how to get in there. As somebody who's not great with this entire thing. anytime I go to YouTube it gives you suggestions

1:47:49Pat McAfee:Bluey Metallica Enter Sandman at Virginia Tech daughter loves it love that she loves that by the way she'll literally alongside of it does the entire thing classic Metallica though they don't let the whole video play they cut it off love the way that guy operates he just lives you're operating how I'm operating or you're not operating at all, mad respect. Lars World. You do what you got to do, Lars. Great performance at Virginia Tech, too. I wish I would have been there. I watched the first minute of it with my daughter a lot. I feel like I got it. And then there's Roethlisberger, their newest episode.

1:48:24Pat McAfee:Not even our show. Not even our show on it. Not even somehow. But Roethlisberger's on there every time. So it's a new Ben face that pops up on the screen whenever I'm trying to get in my bedroom. Saw him with that hockey. There it is. There it is. That was what pops up. Big pop out of me, Ben. I just want to let you know, it's a big, big pop out of me. Spank going, I'm not doing this. I thought this was football, not hockey ball. Yeah, I enjoy. He's trying to tape it with the gloves on. He's from Ohio. He grew up around hockey. He understands what's going on. He gets it. Him and Sid, boys. Him on the ice.

1:48:58Pat McAfee:Oh, my God. He had 100 goals one season. Yeah, he took his sticks from here. It's like combining Patty Maroon and Gretzky. Yeah. Bingo. Yeah, I think so, actually. Hockey better be happy. chose football yeah you're welcome all right let's go through some news uh of the day before we make our picks and get the hell out of here uh i don't want to talk about it oh no oh no everything's going right for danny dimes everything that's not right okay yeah everything yeah what's wrong please i'm gonna bring up something very bad yeah no i'm not even talking about the alien in panama okay i'm not even talking about you're going okay but certainly saw it last night whatever the hell's going on wallet yeah rest in peace to that guy everything's also we'd like to thank that guy for whatever he's documenting right now if it is real obviously it is a profound discovery but what i would also like to talk about is um danny dimes everything's going his way yeah him and riley leonard were outside the indianapolis colts practice facility i don't know if you saw this aj and they did a closest to the pin challenge on the 105 yard hole which goes over some water.

1:50:09Pat McAfee:Danny Dimes knocks it off a rock that's right next to the water, close to the pin, beats Riley Leonard. Everything is going Danny Dimes' way. I will say Danny Dimes and Riley Leonard both have beautiful swing. I mean, it was this middle season, there's no way they've been able to play in a long time. And Riley Leonard puts one to like 15 feet or something like that, 16 feet, and then Danny Dimes goes off the rock to within 10 feet. As soon as I saw it, I said Colts might win the fucking Super Bowl this year. It's a beautiful thing. I'm happy we put it out there. Welcome to Indianapolis and welcome to the Colts, Danny Dimes.

1:50:42Pat McAfee:I think you're going to be here for a long boom right there. Boom. And to six feet. Everything's coming up, Dimes. That's what we're talking about. We need more of that happening. We need to maybe have Danny Dimes go down to the gas station, grab the scratch off. Because he's going to hit. We need him to just randomly start selecting numbers so that maybe if the Powerball gets up to what it is. Danny Dimes is on what we like to call a life heater. And we are going to be the ones that are going to benefit from it here in Indianapolis. Let's enjoy it all, AJ. Let's enjoy it all, I'm saying. I'm looking forward to it.

1:51:13I mean, when I see that, I think everything's going well. Like I say, Danny Dimes goes out and he leads you guys to a Super Bowl. You guys win the Super Bowl. He's going to be hosting SNL like February, March next year. He's going to be all over the place. Cover of GQ, muscle and fitness, all of them.

1:51:26Pat McAfee:So, I think Danny Dimes understands that he doesn't want that. Now, will he host Saturday Night Live? Maybe. He'll be good. He'll be really good. The only thing he wants to be on the cover of is the hard work times. Okay? That's right. The blue collar magazine. Bingo. He ain't doing anything but that. He ain't doing no GQ. He ain't Joe Cool Burrow. He's going to have gloves on that are going to have holes where the calluses are. Showcase his calluses. He's going to have boots and big jeans on. Maybe a car hard jack. Yeah. Yeah, that's what he's going to do. He's going to maybe have some duck paint on because he just got done shooting some ducks out there.

1:51:57Pat McAfee:Lumberjack weekly. Boom. Maybe fucking, yeah, over his shoulder. Have the axe out there. That's what Danny Dimes is out here. Doing that other stuff. Yeah, GQ Magazine, you had your opportunity at the New York Kid. He ain't out there anymore. Think about Playboy, though. What's that? He'll think about Playboy. I don't know. I don't think so. You got to keep Danny Dimes away from the duck blinds. Okay, we went over this once with Carson Wentz. We don't need this guy to fucking fall in love with Mallard hunting, and then he comes back, and that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about football anymore.

1:52:31Sounds like a hick.

1:52:32Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, I've seen some real pictures from duck hunters. Do they ever not beat the ducks? No. It feels like they always win. They kill 500 every single time. Now, I watched Riley Green on Jimmy Fallon. Still a show. Crazy what's happening in the world right now. I watched him on Jimmy Fallon, and Riley Green hit that duck call. He made that thing sing. Pretty good. It'd be hard not if you were in the sky as a duck to be like, oh, shit. What is it? Get me down there. And as soon as they get down there, all they hear is... Yeah. Oh, shit, shit, shit. And they don't win. No, ever. These guys have mastered, and women, there's a lot of women duck hunters out there.

1:53:17Pat McAfee:They have mastered the trailing. It's almost as if they know the exact speed that each duck is going to go. I don't think they ever miss. I don't think they do either. No. Congrats to them. That got to be... Hey. Those ducks, though. A lot of practice there. You think him and Hodge, Devlin Duck, Hodge, go out together, Riley Green, Country World together. I do wonder if Duck Hodges can keep up with Riley Green. Keep up. I know he's a world champion. That was back in the day. Riley Green might be the big... You don't think Laney has taught him something with a voice? Yeah, all he's doing is singing.

1:53:45Pat McAfee:Jimmy Fallon took that thing backwards. Riley Green said, you probably don't even know which end you're blowing, and then immediately on cue, back end of that thing. It was good to TV. We're out. That thing's off in two seconds, I will say. That was an important thing to bring up. We had to talk about this. It was. If we didn't get that on there, then it's like, why did we even do a show today? Bingo. Yeah, yeah. You got to bookend the show. Yeah, what's that? Agreed. Love a good book, Ed. Don't you? That's why we always appreciate seeing your book on your shelf back there. Mm-hmm. Which one's the most recent book that you have read?

1:54:23That's a good question.

1:54:24Pat McAfee:That's a great question. The green one with the green pages, probably. Oh, yeah. And we've talked about this before. You don't have a cover to the book because you don't want to judge the book by said cover. So you actually ask the publishing companies to send them without any words on the cover. We need a blank cover around all of them except for that one. You wanted people to know what you hand wrote it on there. You wanted people to know what book it was. These books, though, are the kids starting to read these yet? Are any family friends asking about maybe sharing one? Maybe leave a book? I don't share these books.

1:54:56No. I don't share these books. No. Kid, this is too advanced for my kids. Maybe when they're 35.

1:55:02Pat McAfee:What was that thing that they did at that place next to it? I'm not a big book reader, sorry. Actually never done it. What was the... Talking about Quills. Yeah, they had like a leave a book, take a book. Bingo. Yeah, very popular deal. You go in there, you drop off a book, you see one you might like, and I said, shit, I'll take this one. Which book did you leave in there while taking a very good book? I put Coach JB's book in there because I just figured someone's got to read this. What is that? Hate me now, love me later? Bingo. Coach JB? Exactly. Still doing it. Did he read the audio? Yeah, the audio version is unbelievable.

1:55:33I would listen to that.

1:55:35Pat McAfee:I don't know if that includes – did you leave a little thing on top to plug in for the audio version, like an MP3? I should have. I didn't. I left a stick on top for whoever was going to grab it next. Enjoy this with a stick. Yeah, you need to take down a stick there. All right, let's get to a break. We'll pick the game on the other side. Sounded like Coach McCarthy won against what he always says. 12 and a half of all points. Thursday night. It's Josh Allen, man. Division game. I'm going to go against it. Dolphins are going to get fucking throttled, man. He didn't say that, but he did. Yeah, exactly.

1:56:07Pat McAfee:And his brain said that. Right. At one point, that was a thought. And what came out was, those look real good. Four points, but... Gumpy, does that make you feel better or worse about this evening that people are going against their own rules normally? I'd rather everybody go against us at this point. Are you going against you? Not a chance. You said you wanted to fight. And guess what? You know who's going to score a touchdown tonight? Alec Ingold, plus 2 ,500. Okay, there's his touchdown bet. Do you have hope? He has some hope. We want something to fight. I know there's no moral victories, but you have to show up tonight.

1:56:46If you lose by a touchdown, lose by three, the season's still alive with the next two games. If you get killed tonight, it's Jover. Yeah, if they get killed tonight, kick them off the tour. Legitimately. And I'm not shitting you. You've got to fight tonight. You've got to show up. You talk shit. You say the culture change. You've got to do something. Please show up. You guys can't see this, but on his hat, it literally says low bottoms and high hopes. Right here on his hat.

1:57:15Pat McAfee:And right now we're at low bottoms and low hopes. We're just pulling for him to fight. That's a fight. I'll take a moral victory tonight. How about that? Okay. I will. Week three. Fight. That's where I'm at. I like that. I think I've been in your position maybe a couple times throughout my life and history of sports, either playing or watching. It's great that we're not you. It is great to not be in your seat right now, but I want to let you know, low bottoms, high hopes, maybe tonight changes everything. Maybe tonight brings the Miami Dolphins back to that team that scored 70 points against the Denver Broncos.

1:57:52Pat McAfee:70. Wow. Do you remember that? I do. Yeah, that was recent. Oh, a long time ago. A lot of football has been played since that has happened. Two years ago. A lot of hopes have been smothered since then. Might have been week three, two years ago. But tonight, we fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight. With all our might. Fight. Fight. Fight. Fight for close. Twelve and a half. Take moral victories tonight. Moral victories. Week three, division game. There's moral victories. I watched that shit live week one. I saw it live week one. I watched every snap. I saw Zach Wilson come in and throw balls into the fucking husk.

1:58:38Just show up, please. Thank you.

1:58:41Pat McAfee:He's talking about the coconut husk, which is obviously the rubber that is used on our turf at Lucas Oil Stadium as opposed to tires. Coconut husk, better for the joints, what we've been told. Quick track. And with that being said, Gumpy not only saw every snap, he heard every snap. He was the only Dolphins fan that was within. And he sat there. Dolphins tarp. Dolphins hat. Dolphins flag, I think, over his head. Just sitting there. Just taking it from everybody. And he walked out of here. We fucking suck. Fuck this. And then fight against the Patriots. It was a fight. And then tonight, maybe more fight.

1:59:21Pat McAfee:And then week four, guess what? Maybe a little. We're winning Monday night against the Jets. Oh, no. Prime time again for the Finns, boys. We're on schedule maker. We're done with it. What the fuck, man? And don't worry. It's not a double header. It's not? Flex it out. Get it out of there. All right. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. Dumpy, we love you, man. Love you too, man. Fight. Fight.

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2:00:53Pat McAfee:football is the greatest sport of all time that man's a college football national champion and super bowl champion that's aj hawk the toxic table is here at boston connor and at ty schmidt one half of the hammer down cowboys ap tone is here and uh i'd like to introduce something to the show officially see those aj oh those shacks yeah a little shack nose is here brother I'll tell you what. It's getting me. Saw him on Amazon. Had to pull the trigger. Yeah, don't look too old. Oh.

2:01:26Those are sweet.

2:01:26Pat McAfee:They're gigantic. It's a nice reminder of what shoes used to be like. These things feel like I'm putting on old school football cleats. That's what they feel like right now. Obviously, you're just supposed to wear them on day-to-day and whenever you're about to go wreck a rim, obviously. But these things are gigantic. I mean, there's a lot of stuff around them. My toes are at the very tip of this thing. I do think they make me shoot better. Yeah. I don't know if that's what they're meant for.

2:01:58Oh!

2:01:59Pat McAfee:I think so! Okay, I think that shout out. Hey, Shet. Shout out, dude. Appreciate that. That ball falling there is good vibes and good signs as we head into week three of the NFL season. And AJ, last week you won in the picks. Congratulations. You're back on the board. You know, first week you were horrendous. This past week you got hot. Is that going to continue? We shall see tonight. Dolphins taking on the Bills at ESPN Bet. It's back to 11 and a half. It was 11 and a half at ESPN Bet to start the show. Some other books had him at 12 and a half. Middle of the show, ESPN Bet moved it to 12 and a half.

2:02:36Pat McAfee:Everybody was kind of sitting at 12 and a half. Now we're back to 11 and a half at ESPN Bet. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone, what does that mean? Everywhere is 11.5, except for one book is at 12.5. I assume it's just fluctuating money coming in on the Bills, so they jumped it up to 12.5 for a second, and then there was some money coming in on the Dolphins, so then went back down to 11.5. Okay, so kind of a mixed bag. What's the percentage of bets here? 72 % are on the Bills tonight, which is not surprising. I thought it would probably be more, to be honest with you. Okay, Mike McCarthy also likes the Bills, both at 12.5 and at 11.5.

2:03:09Pat McAfee:Remember, he made his pick at 12.5. He did. Okay, so let's hold him to that. Don't forget that. Yeah, let's not forget that with Coach Mike McCarthy. He'd want that type of standard anyway. There was 11 and a halfs out there when he did make the pick. Yeah, so I guess with our own rules, we kind of have to go with the best option available. So he's at 11 and a half. Connor, anything you're thinking about for tonight's game? The only thing is the desperation. Miami backs against the wall. That's it. I mean, no Ed Elver, probably going to be big. Didn't really hurt the Bills last week with the Jets.

2:03:37But with A-Chain and Ollie Gordon, you would assume maybe they do run the ball a bit. I don't know. It's just one of those games just like the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles. It's not as dramatic of a situation because it's week two and not week – or week three, excuse me, not week one. But they are desperate and these games are always close.

2:03:56Pat McAfee:Ty Schmidt, 27-14 can happen. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of what I was thinking, especially with hearing what Sheffy said about their secondary being super banged up. Miami's, I mean, it's tough to envision that they won't win by at least two touchdowns. And I think even if you're a Dolphins fan, maybe that's not the end of the world. You're just trying to avoid, hey, we can't compete by five touchdowns tonight. But I think it's very likely that the Bills win by at least two touchdowns. Gumpy, you're hearing what everybody's saying. 72 % of the world is on the Buffalo Beals right now from the website that we're reading.

2:04:30Pat McAfee:Gumpy, you've heard it all morning. Obviously, it's been a little emotional throughout times of both the pre-show and even Dornish. He got a little worked up there. How do you lean here as we final? And why should we pick the Dolphins? Jalen Wright, also back tonight, one of our running backs. If you get Jalen Wright, A-Chain going, and Ollie Gordon, you could control possession a little bit. That's what you have to do. This is the thing. We run for a lot of yards, but we don't run the ball is the issue. Like McDaniel, you have to run the ball. They're making gains. They just refuse to run the ball.

2:05:06You have three good running backs, pound the rock.

2:05:08Pat McAfee:Is that why you're wearing that jersey? Is it like a subtle reminder to McDaniel maybe if he saw you on TV today? Like, oh, we got a pretty good running back at A-chan. He's actually my favorite player on the team now. More than Tua and Tyreek. This guy. I like this guy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Waddle's always kind of banged. The Waddle jersey's hanging in my locker as well. He's banged up, though. I didn't know if he was playing or not. I mean, this is what it's all about. Yeah, he didn't do it on Sunday. Yeah, the owner was doing it. Yeah, and then he scored. He didn't walk. Maybe he stopped because the owner was doing it.

2:05:39Pat McAfee:Like, you know what? This jump the shark. Maybe jump the dolphin here. AJ, 11 and a half is the spread. I know you have been seeing the board well here for the last few days. The NFL is unpredictable. Division games are unpredictable. Thursday night games, unpredictable. Or are they? You know, they're unpredictable until they're not. Correct. And we've got to remember, there's been 90 % public bet that has covered in the past. Usually around this time is when the public does hit. There's been games that have seemed too obvious to be true, and then they were as obvious as we thought they were going to be.

2:06:12Pat McAfee:But there's always that thought that the games that we also have seen, is a team change who it is. For one game, for four quarters, they piece it together, and they're able to beat anybody. Could tonight be the turning point of this Miami Dolphins team, this Miami Dolphins franchise, this entire program organization's trajectory. Does it change tonight? Do they beat the Bills? Do they keep it close? Or do the Bills win by at least 11.5? A.J. Hawk, you will go first. A lot of times in these situations when I take the obvious pick with so many points in the NFL, I think it's tough to cover when you have 11.5, a spread like this.

2:06:50We don't see this a whole lot. But I think the Dolphins know they have a great opportunity. I don't think they find a way to capitalize on it. I think the Bills win by 14 plus.

2:06:58Pat McAfee:Okay. AJ's got the Bills.

2:07:07What's up? What are you worried about? Just hold on. He's thinking. It's a big spread, and you're seeing the board. You took the Bills.

2:07:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, you took the Bills. That does change. You're seeing the board right now. So everything Connor just said and to tone. I take into account if other people are seeing it. You know? You know, one week right there, what I was doing, Is that one week of seeing it? Or is he actually understanding what's going on right now? Who are you talking to? Right there in my head? Me? Okay. I didn't know if there was some sort of shaman or... Well, I would hope it is actually a much smarter version of me. Every time I do that, have the self-talk, I'm always hoping to fucking God it's a better me that's answered.

2:07:46I picture you like Ace when he was in the den and then he hovered above himself. Ventura, Ace Ventura, that is.

2:07:52Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, I remember what you're talking about. Whenever he was down in the jungle. Yeah. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Probably too. Your balls are shut. Yeah. Go ahead. I was going to say, it's basically it. This is the last time all year you can bet on the Dolphins. Yeah, you really would like it. And that might be because you're a Patriots. No, no. I just think that the Colts are really good, and I think that there's a chance here that the Patriots end up being a pretty solid team and the Dolphins aren't that bad. And you're saying I watched every snap of the Dolphins last week, and also I saw them week one.

2:08:25Pat McAfee:And they look like a much better team against the Patriots than maybe they looked against the Indianapolis Colts, is what you're saying? Yes, and I genuinely think the Colts are, like, one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now. So, like, can we really hurt them that much? Like, it's the same with the Packers. But you know who else is one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now? Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills. Give me 27-14 at least Buffalo Bills winning that game. I mean, it might be – I like the Buffalo Bills. I'm just really in the end. I didn't watch that whole New England Miami game.

2:08:59Pat McAfee:You see, that's the problem here. I haven't seen because I think they had good moments, great moments in there, right? They had really good moments. But again, the other thing with the Miami Dolphins game is just that the Patriots, you know, their defense isn't all out there. It's hard to even judge that. Our defense also can't get a stop. Okay. Give me the bills. Thank you. That was awesome. Appreciate that, Gumby. I know you're pulling for the Dolphins tonight. I know Connor is pulling for them to keep it close. I assume there's going to be a lot of money potentially on it. Let's go, AJ. Let's win this thing.

2:09:29Pat McAfee:Let's do this. Let's get a perfect board this week. Why not? I think we can. I told you, I am very biased from the 10 minutes of Hard Knocks episode I watched of the Buffalo Beals, like August 17th airing, and I saw the camaraderie of that team, and that has stuck into my brain when I see how much of these guys enjoy being around each other. Shane Steichen just said that yesterday about the Colts team. He's like, hey, they hang out. they go to dinners multiple dinners a week they hang out it's just the vibes are vastly different it's like that means something i think we look at that a lot more than other people do anytime there's a mic'd up i'm trying to see how they're interacting that's all i'm trying to see is the interaction how's the interaction when we're watching a sideline we're just trying to see the interaction hard knocks stories are cool guy does rocks and shit okay sick how do they how do they interact and that's all that's all i want to see legit all the teams that i've been around and been on that are good or great the boys like each other whenever it's clearly that they aren't all on the same team it's teams aren't good it's just an x factor that seems to show up with great teams and uh doesn't get talked about it much i agree with what you're saying about that buffalo bills hard knocks i do that vision game though thursday night that's a short week i mean the feels though it's big for the bills the bills are rolling and everyone had like they have everyone's respect and everything.

2:10:47They know they don't want any letdown. If they go drop a game to the Dolphins, that changes their season, too, pretty quickly, even though they'll be fine either way. But they don't want this to happen.

2:10:55Pat McAfee:I mean, you start thinking about how the game goes and what happens. Like, if the Beals, with all that energy at home, come out and get an early big lead, then we're talking... Scorched earth. And also, potentially, Miami, you know, turning down a little bit, maybe at that moment. Maybe some disagreements, maybe some miscommunication happens. But if Miami's able to battle there gets the ball first. Yeah, if they're able to keep that thing, then dog fight. They've got to get a deep ball to Tyreek early. Miami needs something like that to happen early. Let's get Tyreek involved. Let's get some excitement early and get on the board.

2:11:32That's Miami's chance.

2:11:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, so let's watch that first quarter. What's the, I mean, that's a bigger question mark I think than the overall game because how the first quarter goes I think is how we're going to find out what the game is. If Buffalo's dominant, that's going to be. Even that first drive, because if the Bills, you know, Buffalo faithful, Bills mafia gets going after like a three and out from Miami, and then the Bills go score and they play Mr. Brightside or some shit, it's going to be real hard, you know, end in the first quarter 14. Both teams want the ball here, right? I think. Probably. I think both offenses are better.

2:12:04I could see Buffalo being like, fuck it, no, kick it. Let our fans eat here for a second. Bills are minus three and a half first quarter. If it fancies you.

2:12:13Pat McAfee:Do we have the percentages on who's on what there? What's the over-under of the first quarter? The over-under of the first quarter? The first quarter total? Nine and a half. I like over there. I like over for that and the whole game. Seven-three? You're going over? Yeah, I want to feel alive today. I love it, Tony. You like that, Tony. Fifteen and a half is a lot of points. That's a lot of points. Phil's rush defense stinks. Dolphins stink. Okay. Points, points, points. Once again, I would love to see Willie Gay get some burn. The guy's a ball of energy. He's so good. He's played two fucking snaps all year.

2:12:47Great two snaps. He's so good at football. He just doesn't play. Why isn't he playing, Giles? I have no idea. I put out a clip. It has like 500 ,000 views. No one knows why this guy doesn't play. He had two snaps. He had a tackle and another tackle for a five-yard loss where he hyped up everybody. Took him off the field. New England made a third and 17 screen.

2:13:06Pat McAfee:All right. We're excited for the night. We're excited for Gumpy. He said, Willie Gay, one of the best players of all training camp, they're saying. God, I can't. Does he? Let's see him on the field then. They were saving him for Thursday night, Buffalo Bills. Must be. That must have been what it was. Tonight could be the night for the Miami Dolphins and their fans. And for that reason and that reason alone, we're pulling for him. Yeah. But on the flip side, this could be the year for the Buffalo Bills. And tonight could be a big one on national. Yeah. Prom time. Only people on to say, hey, this is who we is, if you were wondering about the Buffalo Bills.

2:13:38Pat McAfee:I'm excited for tonight. All right, we're going to toss to a conversation we had a chance to have with Stanford Steve about college ball, especially this weekend. I think you're going to enjoy it. It's a segment that we're calling another college football convo with Stanford Steve. We think you'll enjoy it, and also we think it'll give a good breakdown on the storylines that you need to know going into college ball. And on that note, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me, team on three, let's enjoy it tonight. Oh, yeah. Okay?

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