PMS 2.0 1420 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Kyle Schwarber, Cal Raleigh, & AJ Hawk

1 Oct 2025 · 3 h 31 min · 89 chapters

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In short

A “Watt Wednesday” sports roundup that pivots from football to a heavy baseball segment, then back to NFL news and matchups. The show discusses MLB Wild Card results (especially Red Sox vs. Yankees), evaluates hot playoff teams (Phillies, Mariners), and debates whether postseason “rest and rust” matters. It also covers NFL quarterback news: Dylan Gabriel starting for the Cleveland Browns in London vs. the Minnesota Vikings, with discussion of his size/arm-batted-down-passes concerns and Cleveland’s offensive-line fit in Kevin Stefanski’s zone/play-action style. The episode also includes JJ Watt’s commentary on the Ireland/London NFL international games, jersey/uniform talk, and A.Q. Shipley’s and JJ Watt’s football analysis.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  • JJ Watt: Former Houston Texans defensive star; Super Bowl champion; now a CBS game announcer.
  • A.Q. Shipley: 12-year NFL offensive lineman; Remington Award winner at Penn State.
  • Darius Butler: 9-year NFL veteran (former NFL defensive back).
  • Cal Raleigh: Seattle Mariners catcher; described as MLB’s home-run/ding-dong leader; AL West champions (first since 2001).
  • Kyle Schwarber: MLB slugger; Philadelphia Phillies DH; hit 55 home runs this season (as stated).

Key claims

  • Baseball: Phillies and Mariners are “electrifying” playoff teams; the week off after Wild Card can create “rest and rust” when teams are hot.
  • Yankees: Aaron Judge’s elbow flexor strain is a concern; Yankees’ defensive/reliever decisions and bullpen management are blamed for losing to the Red Sox after Max Fried’s strong start.
  • NFL: Dylan Gabriel’s main knock is being shorter and having passes batted down more easily, but the show argues batting-down is rare and Cleveland’s interior line (Batonio, Pochic, Wyatt Teller) plus Stefanski’s scheme could help him succeed.
  • Texans: Matt Burke’s defense calling is credited with a shutout; the change is framed as freeing DeMeco Ryans to focus on “CEO” head-coach duties.

Notable examples

  • Red Sox-Yankees Wild Card: Garrett Crochet’s dominance (13 Ks mentioned) and Max Fried being pulled after 6 2/3; Luke Weaver’s poor relief sequence; Judge’s outfield arm tested (throw velocity discussed).
  • MLB: Mariners’ Cal Raleigh and Phillies’ Kyle Schwarber as central playoff storylines; Schwarber’s “500 feet” homers described.
  • NFL: Browns’ Gabriel vs. Vikings in London at 9:30 a.m.; JJ Watt’s Ireland game viewership/atmosphere; jersey matchup discussion (Bucs creamsicles vs. Seahawks throwbacks).

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Chapters

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Longing for Football, But It's Baseball Season

0:45 to 2:44

The hosts discuss the unusual timing of baseball in a football-centric show.

“That's why the beginning of the show was what it was, because what you normally think of this show, especially this time of year, I mean, it's October 1st.”

Cal Raleigh and Kyle Schwarber Are Coming

2:44 to 5:08

The hosts share excitement about upcoming guests Cal Raleigh and Kyle Schwarber.

“And he's only getting better, it feels like.”

Analyzing Current Playoff Dynamics

5:08 to 7:22

Discussion on the dynamics and stakes of the ongoing MLB playoffs.

“We remember him from Pittsburgh at his grandma's house.”

Yankees vs. Red Sox: A Wild Card Showdown

7:22 to 11:23

The hosts break down the tensions and performance in the Yankees vs. Red Sox wild card series.

“You can't just go out and hit five homers every single night and out homer teams, which is kind of the – when the Yankees are at their best, that's their recipe.”

Pitching Decisions and Game Strategy

11:23 to 14:00

The discussion covers pitching strategies and decisions that affected the game outcome.

“Boone got outmanaged big time by Alex Cora.”

Baseball and Football Season Confusion

14:00 to 15:29

Discussing the overlap of football and baseball seasons and recent player performances.

“So, I mean, again, a lot of Monday morning quarterback, this can all be erased if you just go win, which is what they got to do.”

Dylan Gabriel's First Start Analysis

15:30 to 17:06

Analyzing Dylan Gabriel's upcoming first start for the Cleveland Browns and his potential impact.

“It was legitimized and officialized and formally announced by everybody else other than just CBS Sports this morning.”

Evaluating the Offensive Line's Role

17:07 to 19:51

Discussing the importance of the offensive line in protecting a quarterback like Dylan Gabriel.

“because in real life they're normal size.”

Guest Introduction: JJ Watt

19:52 to 21:42

Introducing JJ Watt as a guest and discussing his experiences and opinions.

“How do you feel about what the Cleveland Browns have set up for him, offensive line-wise?”

JJ Watt on Dylan Gabriel's Challenges

21:43 to 24:07

JJ Watt shares his thoughts on the challenges Dylan Gabriel faces as a shorter quarterback.

“You didn't go down into the wine cellar?”
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Family Athleticism and Upbringing

24:08 to 27:34

Exploring the McAfee family's upbringing and their approach to nutrition and athletics.

“But there's no question that it does present its challenges and batting down passes is a real thing.”

Growing Up as an Athlete: Food and Training

28:00 to 31:00

Learn how a rigorous diet and training shaped their athletic careers.

Thoughts on the Ireland NFL Game

31:00 to 31:50

Discussing the unique experience and atmosphere of the NFL game in Ireland.

“TJ, we actually had to do a little bit of journalism and get the truth.”

Traveling for NFL Games: Ireland vs. Pittsburgh

31:50 to 34:25

Exploring the logistics and impact of international NFL travel on teams.

“Yeah, JJ, what were your thoughts on the Ireland game as a whole?”

Upcoming NFL Matches and Team Dynamics

34:25 to 36:20

Analyzing upcoming games and their implications for teams involved.

“and London over Pittsburgh and Cleveland, in theory, made sense to me whenever I heard it.”

Player Spotlights: B. John Robinson and Puka Nakua

36:20 to 39:55

Highlighting standout performances and potential MVP candidacies of key players.

“Yeah, on that note, JJ, I know this would be a great game.”

Discussions on NFL Commentary and Player Performance

39:55 to 42:00

Exploring the nuances of NFL commentary and celebrating player efforts.

“Okay, so let's go to the next game that you're calling.”

Celebrating Defensive Plays

42:00 to 43:33

Discussion on effective tackling and defensive strategies in football.

“Not only does the three technique have to think about it, now the nose guard has to think about it because Deion Dawkins, your left tackle not only hit the three technique, now he comes and gets the opposite nose guard.”

Texans Defense and Coaching Changes

43:33 to 44:32

Analysis of the Texans' defense transformation and coaching dynamics.

“Wow, and he kind of came in like a wrecking ball to your argument there.”

Game Preview: Texans vs. Ravens

44:32 to 46:05

Previewing the upcoming game between the Texans and Ravens, focusing on team strengths and weaknesses.

“Yeah, but also like it's, you know, the Texans defense is dominant.”

Colts' Recent Performance Analysis

46:05 to 47:18

A breakdown of the Colts' recent game performance and challenges faced.

“I mean, like we all know the Titans are struggling right now.”

Tie Games and Coaching Perspectives

47:18 to 48:49

Discussion on the implications and feelings regarding tie games in football.

“Your thoughts, Jage, on the Colts should have won this game.”

Overtime Rules and Their Impact

48:49 to 50:52

Exploring the new overtime rules and their effects on game outcomes.

“He said, you know, I started looking up at the clock, and it was going down, and I was thinking, oh, my God, we're not going to get a playoff.”

Celebrating College Football Culture

50:52 to 54:08

A discussion about the significance of college football and its traditions.

“ties man like nobody we got to find i don't i don't want to go to like a goal kick situation but that would be electric if you just toss the kickers out there and start backing them up.”

J.J. Watt's Impact and Future

54:08 to 56:00

Recognizing J.J. Watt's contributions to football and his transition to broadcasting.

“literally a part of like, it's, it's become just as much a part of college football as the actual games, which is so cool.”

J.J. Watt's Impact in the Booth

56:00 to 57:12

Discussion on J.J. Watt's transition to broadcasting and the significance of his presence.

“And change that primetime Thanksgiving game, too.”

Excitement Around MLB Postseason

57:45 to 59:20

Analyzing the magic of the MLB postseason and standout performances.

“Every assist, every stop, every logo three.”

Shohei Ohtani's Unbelievable Talent

59:21 to 1:01:15

Discussion on Shohei Ohtani's exceptional abilities and impact on the game.

“even though the boys had quite a collapse at the end of the year.”

Analyzing MLB Lineups and Strategies

1:01:16 to 1:04:29

Insight into batting lineups and the strategy of having top players lead off.

“The Reds have this kid, Hunter Green, who throws over 100 miles an hour.”

AJ Hawk Joins the Discussion

1:04:30 to 1:07:27

Introduction of AJ Hawk and conversation about current sports events.

“And then Shohei going leadoff has been like a story, basically.”

NFL News and the Cleveland Browns

1:07:28 to 1:10:01

Exploration of NFL news, particularly focusing on the Cleveland Browns' new quarterback.

“Okay, let's talk a little bit of NFL news.”

Vikings and Steelers Surprises

1:10:01 to 1:11:04

Discussion about the surprising performances of the Vikings and Steelers in recent games.

“They bring in Hargrave and Jonathan Allen, who they think are going to shore things up or make it better.”

Introducing Kyle Schwarber

1:11:04 to 1:12:01

Introduction of Kyle Schwarber, discussing his achievements and current postseason status.

“This man led the NL in home runs this year for the Philadelphia Phillies.”

The Intensity of Postseason Baseball

1:12:01 to 1:13:24

Kyle Schwarber shares insights on the differences between regular season and postseason play.

“You guys have the longest season out of any.”

Creating a Postseason-Like Environment

1:13:24 to 1:14:51

Discussion on creating a competitive atmosphere during inter-squad games for practice.

“We're trying to get everyone healthy, but we're still trying to get an environment.”

Mental Approach in High-Stakes Moments

1:14:51 to 1:16:54

Kyle discusses the mental approach needed during high-pressure situations in baseball.

“Now, you just add in 30 ,000 people into our stadium, and I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm like, who are people going to be cheering for, and who are people going to be booing tonight?”

Staying True to Your Game

1:16:54 to 1:18:40

Advice on maintaining one's playing style and not overthinking during critical moments.

“Last at bat, game 162, bottom of the ninth inning.”

Situational Hitting in the Playoffs

1:18:40 to 1:20:54

Discussion on the importance of situational hitting and adapting strategies in playoff games.

“and I love the messaging you just sent out there.”

Understanding Pitch Recognition

1:20:54 to 1:26:25

Insights into how players recognize pitches and their approach when batting.

“Now my thought process goes to, okay, I want to drive this guy in, but at the very least, I'm going to get him over the third base.”

The Intensity of Playing in Philly

1:26:25 to 1:28:39

Discover the unique atmosphere of playing baseball in Philadelphia.

“I mean, some of the highlights that have been shown of you hitting, you know, dingers in the playoffs have been amazing.”

Ding-Dong Donations and Game Expectations

1:28:39 to 1:30:01

Explore the concept of ding-dong donations and game night expectations.

“I mean, I wouldn't want to hear some of the things that are being said to the outfielders or the bullpens.”

Interview with Kyle Raleigh

1:30:01 to 1:32:08

Insights from Kyle Raleigh on his preparation and the upcoming scrimmage.

“How many are going to happen at that thing?”

Cal Raleigh on Career Influences

1:32:08 to 1:36:19

Cal Raleigh shares how veteran players have influenced his career.

“I know you got a little scruff McGruff down here.”

The Demands of Being a Catcher

1:36:19 to 1:38:00

Discuss the physical and mental challenges faced by catchers in baseball.

“You can ask a lot of baseball players getting out there in front of that crowd.”

Catching and Its Challenges

1:38:00 to 1:40:56

Explore the physical and mental demands placed on catchers in baseball.

“We're doing that with people that aren't there.”

Reflecting on a Historic Season

1:40:56 to 1:42:53

Hear about the incredible pressures and achievements during a standout season.

“Like, have you got to sit back yet a little bit and be like, Like, wow, I just had like one of the most impressive years in like the, especially for in the history of catching, but in the history of baseball as a whole.”

Strategizing for Playoff Success

1:42:53 to 1:44:04

Learn how teams prepare for potential playoff opponents and maintain sharpness.

“Your name was being talked about going into the Home Run Derby.”

Ichiro's Unique Presence

1:44:04 to 1:46:33

Discover Ichiro's role in training and his competitive spirit in practice.

“Now you're going to get out of shape, but you know what I mean?”

Closing Thoughts with Cal Raleigh

1:46:33 to 1:47:39

Cal shares final thoughts on his season and the significance of catchers in baseball.

“I didn't like what he said about the Marlins doing his Hall of Fame speech.”

NFL Weekend Recap

1:47:39 to 1:49:25

A discussion on the latest NFL games and standout moments from the weekend.

“Maybe almost like a tight end with a little nickel corner perhaps because he also has to catch the ball and he has to have a real arm, not like a noodle arm.”

Innovative Offense in NFL

1:49:25 to 1:52:00

Analyze the evolution of offensive strategies, particularly the Tush Push.

“Let's go ahead and look back a little bit with A.Q.”

Defensive Strategies in Football

1:52:00 to 1:53:34

Learn about the importance of defensive line strategies in football.

“You look at the Philadelphia Eagles, they have four number one picks on the D-line, and they were able to just cause absolute chaos for everybody.”

Analyzing Baseball Performances

1:53:34 to 1:54:48

Discussion on baseball performances of players like Cal Raleigh and Aaron Judge.

“Yeah, we got Steve Spagnuolo still bringing it.”

MVP Conversations

1:54:48 to 1:55:46

Debate on MVP candidates in baseball and their performances.

“Like last year, you know, with Lamar, he had like an MVP year, probably his best year as a pro.”

Red Sox vs. Yankees Rivalry

1:55:46 to 1:57:22

Discuss the intense rivalry between the Red Sox and Yankees, and its implications.

“This is a World Series hat, but we actually came back against the Yankees when we were down 3-0.”

Pitching Performances Under Pressure

1:57:22 to 1:58:50

Insights into key pitching performances and their impact on games.

“I was watching Crochet, the Red Sox pitcher last night.”

Baseball Playoffs and Future Prospects

1:58:50 to 2:01:08

Discussion surrounding the current baseball playoffs and future league prospects.

“Which, once again, is why, if you ask Yankees fans, maybe we do lose this one because this guy's really good.”

UFL and Player Empowerment

2:01:08 to 2:05:08

Discussion on the UFL, its future, and the importance of player empowerment.

“Remember, there was a little bit of a conversation.”

Quarterback Dynamics in the League

2:05:08 to 2:06:00

Exploration of quarterback dynamics and their influence on league success.

“That's what you actually – that's Rapelle.”

Quarterbacks and League Challenges

2:06:00 to 2:07:09

Discussion on the state of NFL quarterbacks and their impact on the league's performance.

“Ask Josh Allen if he wants to play in it after the football season.”

Dwayne Johnson's Transformation and Film

2:07:10 to 2:09:50

Exploration of Dwayne Johnson's physical transformation for a movie role and its implications.

“We get incredible fan bases, which we've seen a couple of them.”

Yankees vs. Red Sox Rivalry

2:09:51 to 2:12:34

Analysis of the current state of the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry and its implications.

“They've officially changed it, I believe.”

AQ Shipley's Top Offensive Lines

2:12:35 to 2:19:35

AQ Shipley shares insights on the top performing offensive lines in week four of the NFL.

“Ladies and gentlemen, every week we get a chance to find out who are the best teams.”

Athleticism in Offensive Lines

2:19:36 to 2:20:00

Discussion on the physicality and athleticism of offensive linemen in the NFL.

“Let the clip run as he gets to the future Hall of Fame linebacker, Fred Warner.”

Athleticism of Modern Offensive Linemen

2:20:00 to 2:21:00

Learn about the physical capabilities of today's offensive linemen and their impressive agility.

“and it starts with their offensive line, but it starts with Liam Cohen understanding the run game is just as important as the balls down the field.”

Performance of the Buffalo Bills Offensive Line

2:21:00 to 2:22:18

Discussion on the Buffalo Bills' offensive line performance and their physical play style.

“He should have maybe been out there at tackle.”

Detroit Lions: Back to Toughness

2:22:18 to 2:24:18

Explore the resurgence of the Detroit Lions' offensive line and their tough playing style.

“There's been a lot of that though, hasn't there?”

Debate on PFF Ratings and Player Grades

2:24:18 to 2:28:10

Examine the reliability of PFF grades and how they impact player perception and decision-making.

“That should always be the basis of this Detroit Lions offense and they're back to who they were.”

The Impact of Madden Ratings

2:28:10 to 2:30:32

Discussion on how Madden ratings influence player reputation and perceptions in football.

“But there's people that judge players entirely off of the rating they see on Sunday Night Football whenever they're introduced.”

Analytics in Modern Football

2:30:32 to 2:34:00

Insights into the evolution of analytics in football and their impact on coaching and player evaluation.

“And for us, potentially, in the stadium, if you give him an opportunity, it's crazy how the world works.”

Analyzing Football Stats and Upcoming Games

2:34:00 to 2:35:55

Discussion on the evolution of football analytics and anticipation for upcoming games.

“It feels like we're getting better with them.”

College Football Chaos and NFL Matchups

2:35:55 to 2:37:25

Exploring the unpredictability of college football and notable NFL matchups.

“An incredible day of football that ended in a 40-40 tie.”

Previewing Key NFL Games This Weekend

2:37:25 to 2:39:16

Analysis of significant NFL games, discussing team strengths and potential outcomes.

“Three unranked teams beat top ten teams.”

Injury Updates and Player Reactions

2:39:16 to 2:43:20

Update on Tyreek Hill's injury situation and insights from agent Drew Rosenhaus.

“Let me fucking run this back real quick.”

Discussion on Nerve Injuries and Recovery

2:43:20 to 2:48:00

Exploration of nerve injuries in football and their implications for player recovery.

“That would be cool if it was at the Moz Nose.”

Andrew Luck and Nerve Recovery Insights

2:48:00 to 2:51:06

Explore the complexities of Andrew Luck's nerve recovery and its implications.

“you know, what they were going to do with Andrew Luck kind of waiting in the wings and also a massive bonus and also the lockout happened.”

Shifting Gears Premiere Discussion

2:51:06 to 2:52:30

Discussion about the premiere of 'Shifting Gears' featuring Tim Allen.

“What if they do straight into Tool Time?”

Home Improvement Nostalgia

2:52:30 to 2:56:45

Reflecting on the impact of 'Home Improvement' and its cultural significance.

“More people might watch this in the Super Bowl.”

Bad Bunny and Super Bowl Halftime Show

2:56:45 to 2:59:37

Exploration of Bad Bunny's potential as a Super Bowl Halftime performer.

“I saw somebody tweet Luke Combs would be good.”

Halftime Show Collaborations and Iconic Performers

2:59:37 to 3:01:33

Discussion on the need for collaborations in Super Bowl halftime shows.

“But I don't know who is the right person.”

Everything DB: Good D and Bad D Segment Introduction

3:01:33 to 3:02:00

Introduction to the 'Good D and Bad D' segment featuring DB.

“Yeah, I feel like I remember her, like, hanging up red shit.”

Collaborative Music Efforts

3:02:00 to 3:04:30

Discussion on potential cross-genre music collaborations.

“I think there should be a collaborative effort.”

Everything DB: Good Defense Highlights

3:04:30 to 3:08:30

Analysis of standout defensive plays from recent NFL games.

“And Geno Smith, a lot of people were kind of hating on him.”

Defensive Strategies and Execution

3:08:30 to 3:13:30

Insights into defensive strategies and player roles in the NFL.

“But after the game, yesterday, actually, Robert Salah was asked about the whole dust-up once again.”

Leverage and Edge Setting in Defense

3:13:30 to 3:16:00

Exploration of leverage and edge-setting techniques in defensive play.

“And if you let it run a few frames here, he's coming down.”

Excitement at the Stadium

3:16:00 to 3:18:26

A discussion about the thrilling atmosphere at a recent game, including plays and crowd reactions.

“Obviously, had a chance to hang out at the stadium a couple different times.”

The New Phone Experience

3:18:26 to 3:20:49

Insights into the features and frustrations of a new phone, including camera capabilities and software changes.

“You're trying to be cool right now on the internet.”

Living Without a Phone Case

3:20:49 to 3:26:18

A lively debate on the merits and risks of using a phone without a protective case.

“If I want to fucking FaceTime a fucking FaceTime, but we had that figured out Why are we changing it now granted?”

Driving and Safety Discussion

3:26:18 to 3:29:34

A conversation about driving habits, texting while driving, and the differences in driving cultures.

“I mean, I would have to replace my phone every two weeks.”
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0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people. Full graphics failure as the show launches. Full system failure. Obviously everybody will be able to figure that out on this glorious Watt Wednesday, October 1st, 2025. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The program today is stacked. We got JJ Watt joining us in about 15 minutes or so. Now, normally he's in the second hour. Yeah. Sure. He comes to the first hour strictly because in the second hour, we're doing baseball. Whoa. Whoa. We're doing baseball. Listen, now it's nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler hitting a whoa right there, which is an accurate response, I think, because this is out of the norm.

0:38Pat McAfee:Don't you think so, D-Butch?

0:39AQ Shipley:Very much so. I know we didn't get our football in the day, so I guess we'll – I mean, still starting with it, but we get some baseball. Yeah, we do. And that's why. That's why the beginning of the show was what it was,

0:49Pat McAfee:because what you normally think of this show, especially this time of year, I mean, it's October 1st. Yeah. Rabbit, rabbit to everybody out there. These guys are only going to be talking about football, especially if they got J.J. Watt scheduled to be in there. But, uh-uh, baseball is electrifying. And guess who we're talking to? 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley. Yeah, A.Q. A.Q. Do you know who we're talking to in the baseball world in the second hour? Am I allowed to say it? Oh, so you do know your second hour. I do know who you are. Okay, okay, say who you think. It's two people.

1:20Pat McAfee:I'll be excited to see who he says first. Who is the guy that we get a chance to chat with in the second hour? The big dumper, Cal Raleigh. That's right, Cal Raleigh. The MLB leader in ding-dongs will be joining us in the next hour. Obviously, Seattle Mariners superstar. They've won the AL West for the first time since 2001. Boom. Look at you. So what Cal Raleigh has done, not only on both sides of the plate, but also behind the plate, this guy basically has the plate surrounded, and he is doing good things all the way around the ballpark. He'll be joining us for what he is, I assume, dubbed a special season for a player, for a town, for a team, for a legacy, for a storyline.

2:04Pat McAfee:Going into, obviously, a beautiful playoffs that started yesterday in a fantastic way. And then, oh, yeah, we got the second leader in home runs in the MLB, in MLB, sorry, Kyle Schwarbo. What? Both of them? Yeah, Philadelphia Philly Superstore. Yeah, he's been there for a few years. Obviously, Schwarbo hit himself 50-something-dongs. 55. 55 ding-dongs this year. And this guy is a monster. He's 32 years old. I got a chance to see him whenever he came down to Indiana for college game day and made the picks. He was fantastic there. Obviously, goes to the Cubs. Fantastic there. He's been here now, I think, three years, I believe, at this point.

2:40Pat McAfee:He's 32 years old. He's a DH. And what he's designated to do is succeed. And he's only getting better, it feels like. And this Phillies team, real deal. Let's go to the toxic table. at Ty Schmidt. Shout out to baseball having a huge wild card day. Shout out to Toxic Tables at Boston Conner in the Boston Red Sox getting a huge win over your New York Yankees. Can we talk about Schwarbel a little bit joining us in the next hour? Phillies might be a magical team every single year. This year does have something brewing, it feels like. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, everyone's looking, especially after last night, seeing what the Dodgers did.

3:14They just beat the absolute shit out of the Reds. So everyone's saying, hey, who could beat the Dodgers in the NL if anyone's going to do it or the team that most most likely will do it, it's going to be the Phillies. You're seeing all these different shots from Schwarber here. When this guy hits homers, he doesn't just, you know, hit a little cheapy two, three rows into the seats. Like he's hitting balls 500 feet into the night, deep, deep, deep. They're a very deep lineup. They have good pitching. One of the big things, and I'll be interested to see what these guys have to say about it, baseball is such a sprint.

3:45You're playing so well, and then the playoffs start, and you get like a week off almost while all these other wildcard teams are battling out to see who's going to play teams like the Phillies and the Mariners. So it's very interesting when these guys, him and Cal Raleigh, are as hot as they are. Now you just got to sit and wait a week kind of, which kind of goes against everything that you want in baseball. When you're hot, you just want to play, play, play. So we'll see.

4:08Pat McAfee:Rest and rust situation. Last night and yesterday as a whole, baseball had a huge wildcard. Yeah. In the headline, I think, with a lot of people that maybe don't have rooting interest for any of these teams, Red Sox-Yankees battling. And I'll tell you what, it was a great day to be a Red Sox. What a time for the Boston Red Sox to knock off the Yankees in a best-of-three series. Are the Yankees about to be? Are the Yankees about to be? There's a chance. There's a chance. I can't do that yet. There's a chance. They're nine innings away, potentially, from their season being over because of the Boston Red Sox.

4:42Pat McAfee:Connor, I know you haven't been following this Red Sox team all season. But let's say you had followed the headlines. You were very optimistic about this Red Sox team. Maybe next year, young team going forward. Are they about to gritty their way to a massive upset over the Yankees here in the wild card? I think maybe from the outside world you would think it's massive. But as someone who's followed the team, it's not massive. You know, this team is built for this. Garrett Crochet, once again, I mean, he's punching everybody out. 13 Ks, I think 7 and 2 thirds I mean, this guy's a stud Ty, I gotta say, he called Aaron Judge is the greatest right-handed hitter of all time He hit two of the hardest singles I've ever Fucking seen last night What's that called?

5:22Pat McAfee:That's called bat speed Exit Velo Exit Velo Dude, you should have seen it Highest single Velo Man, they had three of them in the ninth I don't know if you saw the end, but they had three Right off the bat in the ninth inning Single, single, single Everyone's like, singles are back I'm worried all of a sudden. Or all this Chapman comes out. We remember him from Pittsburgh at his grandma's house. All of a sudden, we say, uh-oh, there's a chance we might be screwed. The bases are juiced. Nuh-uh, Stanton. Sit down, buddy. You can't hit a curve. Jazz Chisholm, actually really, really fun to watch. He's sweet.

5:57Pop out, though. It doesn't really matter. And then, of course. What did you say? Why didn't he start? Sorry.

6:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, he wasn't a lot of time, a lot of feel after. People are asking. And then, see you later. Pop. left, high cheese, whatever the hell they call it. Who cares? Sox are going to win. 101 to end. It had a 92 mile an hour slider in the same inning. I guess Chapman obviously a weapon there to close it out. Let's go to Ty Schmidt. New York Yankees diehard super fan. I'll tell you, I didn't want to point it out. The internet had been doing it. We can do it again. We did it about 40 minutes ago. I can try to remember everything I said. We can kind of run it back. I'm not doing it. I woke up this morning i fell asleep i didn't see the end of these games i was uh i literally woke up like 4 35 a.m okay felt pretty good i'm becoming a morning person i'm actually kind of enjoying hell yeah there's like a routine in the morning i'm doing this whole thing open x first now blame my uh sure you blame me his platform you blame sports for being the most talked about thing on there you blame a lot of stuff the first thing i saw was a tweet a lot of views on it a lot lot of views on it going Aaron Judge is a liability for the Yankees it was the seventh inning and I don't even know why they were blaming him for this but it felt like it was a narrative that was starting last night he goes two for four Connor already chatted about that he is Aaron Judge but why was this the narrative coming out of last night I would genuinely like to know why that is an angle that people are pitching in uh because that the well the Yankees defense as a whole uh is like their biggest weakness and it kind of like in the playoffs a lot of times when you're facing these good pitchers like Crochet.

7:36You can't just go out and hit five homers every single night and out homer teams, which is kind of the – when the Yankees are at their best, that's their recipe. So they do this kind of stuff with the defense all the time, like letting teams to basically just take another base, which typically there you're thinking that's a routine single to the outfield. You can't let that guy stretch that into two. Sogar, they actually said that from home to second, that was the fastest he's ever ran that. So there's a little juice for the postseason there. I might have made a play. Yeah, exactly. But the biggest issue is Judge has a flexor strain in his elbow, and that was kind of what all Yankees fans were worried about when he went on the IL like three, four weeks ago.

8:15And they basically said like, hey, if you really uncork one in the outfield, there's a chance you could have Tommy John. And for a guy like Judge, like the Yankees can't lose him. If they lose him for a prolonged period of time, they will go right into the shitter. It's happened multiple times. So that's the big thing. They're saying, well, he's a liability in the outfield. You can't DH him because they have Stanton, so he has to play the outfield. And the question is, and the Red Sox, like, advanced scouting, they knew that. It's like, hey, if we have guys on base and there's a ball hit out to judge, like, we've got to test his arm.

8:44We've got to see if he can actually do it.

8:46Pat McAfee:Because he's known for having a massive arm. He has a cannon. He has a cannon, yeah. And I think they said, like, his typical throw from the outfield is, like, around 90 miles an hour, and he threw that, like, 75. Damn. So, like, it is a bit of a concern, but I think he also picks and chooses. Because you also look at it, it's like, yeah, that's huge to get that in quick. At this point, they're still up 1-0, but then, you know, bullpen's got to get outs. You know, you can't rely on... Yeah, so why did you guys lose? Let's talk about it, because you're up 1-0 for a long time. Obviously, in the seventh is whenever they end up taking the lead.

9:15Pat McAfee:Yeah. You also pull your pitcher, I believe, at that exact time as well. Guy who had a shutout. Yeah, correct. Max Freed, who the Yankees paid $218 million for in the offseason. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball. He led the majors in wins this year, and he was just steamrolling through the Red Sox. I mean, Crochet, what he was doing was unbelievable. And, you know, Freed was, he was a little bit better because the Yankees had a 1-0 lead going into the seventh. It's what, we talked about it a little bit out there, the analytics in baseball now, for whatever reason, when pitchers get to 100 pitches, it's kind of like, okay, we got it, this is going to be his last inning.

9:51We can't let this guy go any longer. We can't, you know, jeopardize his arm. So Freed gets an out in the top of the seventh. He throws six and a third. They take him out and bring in Luke Weaver from the bullpen, who has been absolutely horse shit almost the entire month of September. What are we doing? What am I doing? That's kind of a boon masterclass is what a lot of people were saying. So he gets in there. He walks his first batter, which you can't do. You can't give any team's free bases. You're a reliever. Throw fucking strikes. Don't throw, you know, four balls that aren't competitive at all.

10:23And a guy's not going to swing at. So he walks that guy. And then we have the judge play. So now they got second and third with one out. Oh, no. But still, okay, hey, that's not a big deal. You know, you can limit this to maybe a sack fly, and we'll get out of this 1-1, and then the game starts over again. That didn't happen. Yoshida pinch hits. They get a base hit right away, score two more runs. And then because the way the Yankees set everything up, they didn't want to play guys like Jazz Chisholm because he's left-handed and Crochet is left-handed and the splits. It's like just those guys are not – you don't want to have a lefty on lefty matchups, but the Yankees had multiple guys on the bench.

11:01Hey, if we want to pinch hit, we have this guy in a situation. Well, it never got to that, so it kind of played right into the Red Sox' hand. So you go from their unbelievable starting pitcher to Aroldis Chapman, who is also left-handed, and then you get three batters who, oh, no, we got three lefties. This is exactly what we didn't want to happen, and we couldn't use any of our guys on the bench who were really good. So the Yankees really threw that one away. Boone got outmanaged big time by Alex Cora. But it's a three-game series. And I think most Yankees fans would say, like, if we were going to lose a game, it was going to be that one.

11:34Crochet is unbelievable. You hate to waste that kind of start from Max Fried. But now, you know, like, do you want to just be chokers? Your backs are against the wall. Oh, no. So go out and win. Oh, no.

11:44Pat McAfee:Is a Yankee fan potentially boiling point to moment here? I'm very confident. We are witnessing it. Let's go to the behind-the-glass. Bruce Brown, lifelong Yankees fan as well. Bruce, Boston Red Sox about to wreck the Yankees season this year. Oh, no. It's a tough loss at home. You drop the pitching duel, obviously. Their ace crochet played outstanding. But, no, you go out tonight. You win 8-4 with Radon on the bump. Carlito will get the job done. And then we go to game three. We got Schlittler and or Blue Gill against a rookie for the Red Sox. Who's that dog? Who is good. But I still like our guys.

12:20I think it's all right in front of us, as Aaron Boone has said a thousand times when we struggled throughout the year. Obviously have to have it tonight, but I'm not ready to freak out. And I also take Solis in. Garrett Cole's out this year. He's missed the entire year. Don't do that. We're here without the ace. Don't do that. Don't do that. We are a mere few months away from Garrett Cole, Paul Skeens, Max Freed, and number 28 if we don't get popped up.

12:52Pat McAfee:He's got an X. He's got an X. He's got an X. Next year. Don't do that. All right. The Cubs hit back-to-back Jackson. They did. Get a big-time win for them. That looked like an electrifying environment. Shout out to the Cubbies getting one from Slime Diego. Did they play again today as well? Yes. Yep. Everybody plays again today, same times.

13:08AQ Shipley:All right. Good luck. Go ahead. Are the Aces – I know you talked about that ace duel in the Red Sox-Yankees matchup, but are the Aces in general throwing, like, longer now? No. Not really. I mean, some guys, and I think that's my biggest gripe is it's the postseason. Like, this isn't the middle of May where, like, sure, I could see that. A guy's thrown a bunch of pitches. Let's get him out and go for the – like, it's do or die right now. These are three-game series. Like, you need to do whatever you can to win these games. And when you're paying a guy$200-plus million, like, guess what? He can throw more than 100 pitches, okay?

13:41He's not fucking 14 years old.

13:43Pat McAfee:Because they pulled your guy at 103 pitches? 102. Yeah. And Crochet threw 117. and I was kind of just thinking like, okay, well, if you give Max Freed 15 more pitches, he probably gets out of that seventh inning and they're still up 1-0 and then you can go to your really high leverage relievers in the bullpen. So, I mean, again, a lot of Monday morning quarterback, this can all be erased if you just go win, which is what they got to do. Okay, well, good luck to them because the Red Sox fans are saying, we thought it was football season. We had no idea we're still in baseball season. It's baseball.

14:15That's crazy for you guys. I'm very excited. And the whole Aaron Judge thing, he's out there. Okay? Guy's got a noodle arm now. I don't care if he's hurt. He's got a noodle arm. He hits the ball a country mile. But, boy, oh, boy, it's bad. We need to be hitting.

14:29Pat McAfee:We need to be throwing. Yeah, slap the ball the other way, Jets, is basically what Judge is doing. No, yeah, they need to be hitting it. The righties need to be throwing that thing to the right. Yeah, bingo. The lefties need to be pulling that thing to the right. Great call. I bet Cora's telling him today because, obviously, you heard Cora's a thousand times better than Boone. From the Yankees fans. Cora's going to let them know we're pepper a judge today. You said they actually did already know that. That kind of was part of that. But today, no, no, per sources, you know, we have sources all over.

14:59Pat McAfee:Per sources, Cora, today, it's like, let's do it even more. No, I don't think you're – who are your sources? We would like you to out your sources. Why the hell would I do that? Well, let's just drop the journalism tag for a second. I know you try your best to be that. But let's just go ahead and share who we got the info from there. Through the grapevine, Gumpy's current owner of his soccer club, John Henry. He actually reached out to the former owner of the Red Sox. All right, I appreciate that. Okay, there's some big news going on in the NFL world. The news was broken kind of yesterday afternoon at 3-12.

15:33Pat McAfee:It was legitimized and officialized and formally announced by everybody else other than just CBS Sports this morning. Dylan Gabriel starting for Cleveland Bronx. Third round pick. Here we go. Third round pick out of Oregon. Obviously, we are incredibly pumped for Dylan Gabriel to get his first start this weekend. It'll be in London town against the Minnesota Vikings, and he can spin it. It feels like everybody loves him. His teammates love him. When he was at Oklahoma, they loved him. When he was at Oregon, they loved him. Obviously, the way that whole thing ended against Ohio State in a Rose Bowl was nasty.

16:03Pat McAfee:I mean, that was a nasty kind of ending to it all. That was supposed to be a very glorious year, which it certainly was for a large portion of it. and Dylan Gabriel, if he can execute the offense, why not? We saw Joe Flacco punt a couple times with his arm. We saw some bad Joe Flacco, even though we had seen some great Joe Flacco for the Cleveland Browns a couple years back. Feels like a quarterback change was inevitable, and with how good their defense is, I don't think it's over for this Cleveland Browns team. If Dylan Gabriel can come in there and play some ball, why not the Cleveland Browns in that AFC North?

16:35Pat McAfee:That'll be at 9.30 a.m. in London. You got Dylan Gabriel taking on Carson Wentz. She looks ready. Gabriel versus Wentz, ready to go down. Now, remember, Dylan Gabriel is his size, which is certainly not the size of other quarterbacks. Certainly Carson Wentz, who is very tall. I mean, Carson is a large individual. But let's talk about Dylan Gabriel. And the only knock really is, can he see? Is he going to be able to handle it all? How about some big-time shots? We've seen undersized, and we're only saying undersized because in real life they're normal size. More athletic, more jacked than most people.

17:14Pat McAfee:On a football field, though, at that particular position with who you're standing behind and who is trying to tackle you, size seemingly can matter. But there's been outliers. Will Dylan Gabriel be another one of those guys in the NFL debuts?

17:25AQ Shipley:We shall see. We saw him be successful at a high level at different stops in his college career. But, yeah, that will be his knock, and that will be something he'll have to overcome throughout his entire career. Every quarterback gets balls batted down the line of scrimmage, But every time it'll happen to Dylan, they'll say, oh, maybe it's just because he's 5 '11 or whatever his height is. But we've seen him play good ball. His strength has been getting the ball out on time, being accurate, hitting guys. And once we saw that punt to Kirby Joseph, I think we all saw this kind of come. And even coming into the season, we all say, OK, they got the veteran Joe Flacco.

17:57AQ Shipley:He'll start the season off, see how far they can get him. And then you'll see what we got from the rookie quarterback. So he's getting his opportunity. This is when it happens a lot of the times at that quarter mark when you're like, okay, you kind of reassess, reevaluate your team. We talked about the defense. We've been talking about them all year. You're going to have a chance every week trotting out that defense. So if you have an offense that can just move the ball down the field, put up some points, take care of the football, which Dylan Gabriel has shown he can do, now we just got to see him do it on the highest level.

18:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, so not only see him do it at the highest level, it's like also see him survive. Just being a quarterback in the NFL is very difficult. And it's not just obviously defense is trying to pick you apart. I think Dylan Gabriel, obviously with the time he's had, the amount of different offenses he's played and how many different defenses he's played against, we assume he'll be able to digest what a defense is. But Patrick Mahomes said it wasn't until like his third year, second, two and a half years that he didn't understand what was going on. So there's going to be some big time shots. Okay, this is the NFL.

18:48Pat McAfee:There's big dudes that are going to give big shots. A.Q. Shipley here, obviously, 12-year NFL offensive lineman. Remington Award winner at the Penn State University. Is there things that that offensive line is thinking with a guy who 5 '10", 5 '9", 5 '8", whatever it is. He's got cleats on. He's got 5 '8". Come on. Can you put the graphic on? 5 '11".

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19:11AQ Shipley:He was damn near out of the car.

19:13Pat McAfee:No, he's honest. We try to make it as real as possible because we're trying to represent the fact because that is a storyline. It's like, hey, this is a huge storyline, especially with a beefload defense where what you see isn't necessarily what's for real. So the whole, you got 6 '5", 6 '7", guys trying to protect you. He's 5 '11", okay? So he's, that's not that small. Everybody needs to get off his back. People are talking about it being real small, though, which I don't love. But he's got like 6 '4", 6 '5", around him. That's why quarterbacks being tall is like what the prototype is. Because not only are you seeing over the defense and being able to, you're seeing over your own fucking guys.

19:47Pat McAfee:I mean, there's a lot of meat around you. I think we're going to talk about that even later. How do you feel about what the Cleveland Browns have set up for him, offensive line-wise? In Stefanski's offense, do you think Dylan Gabriel is going to have success? I love their offensive line, and here's why. Because they are built center, both guards, really good on the interior of their offensive line. The defense is going to want to make him feel like the walls are closing in. The whole purpose of the pocket on offensive line is the tackles create the width. The interior guys create the depth. Well, the good news is those interior three, Batonio, Pochic, and Wyatt Teller, are as good as any three in the National Football League on the interior.

20:23Pat McAfee:In Stefanski's offense, what is his offense? I remember watching Baker throw 60 times with a separated shoulder. Taking Nick Chubb off the field because he was doing well. Yeah, so I know that, but he certainly had success, obviously, when him and Flacco were flying around making the playoffs doing that. Stefanski's known as an offensive guru. Obviously, they have a run game. They're going to have to at Cleveland. But what type of offense, what is Dylan Gabriel going to have to do on this particular offense? He comes from the world of zone schemes and play actions. I mean, he likes to push the ball down the field off of his play actions, and that, I think, can benefit Dylan Gabriel because now you're moving the pocket.

20:57You're not having him sit in the middle of the pocket where hands can bat passes down. Now you get him outside the pocket after running the ball, running the ball, running the ball. Now we hit the play action, get him outside the pocket, hit something down the field. Joining us now, go ahead.

21:09AQ Shipley:No, the key is going to be getting the ball out of his hands quick against this Flores defense. You saw that's how A-Rod had success last week against this defense because you sit back there, you're getting third and long, you've got to be able to run the ball as well. You're getting third and long, dead in the water against this defense.

21:22Pat McAfee:Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, a man who is already in the Houston Texans Bull Ring of Honor. He's also calling games for CBS every single Sunday, and he's done a fantastic job every time we've heard him talk about the game. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Burnley Lads and the Espanol Boys, JJ Watt. Yeah, JJ! How you doing, JJ? Hey, guys. How's it going? Hey, man, you ever been to Augusta? You ever been down there? No big deal. That's unbelievable. Good for you. Have you done this down there? No big deal. Played the course 103. Part of the first hole.

22:04No big deal.

22:06Pat McAfee:Amen Corner, how'd you do? Not good. Not good. I'm happy to hear that. But man, what a place. No big deal. Did you stay the night there? Where? at augusta uh not on the grounds oh i didn't know i didn't even know that was a real thing but i mean i got dressed in the champions locker room and breakfast up there hard the first hole should have walked off the course after first hole great start did you do dinner did you go to dinner i mean i ate food i what are you asking what did you do yeah you didn't get the real experience How about me? I'm not talking about me. Just people I know, friends of mine.

22:51Pat McAfee:You didn't do a tour of the place? You didn't go down into the wine cellar? Oh, you didn't do anything? Wow, that's crazy weird. How about the amateur cabin up there? Did you go up there? Did you go see that? No, I did not go up there. Oh, my God. That would have been so cool if you were going. I've heard other people got to do that. It would have been. It would have been. We appreciate the invite, you know? Yeah, somebody could invite you. And me, too, by the way. Somebody could invite me. Let's get off of that subject. Let's get to you and a 5 '11 quarterback. Okay, they're making a big deal out of this.

23:21Pat McAfee:Should they? And what are your thoughts on Dylan Gabriel taking over for the Cleveland Browns? My thoughts are I hope he's great. I would love for the Cleveland Browns jersey, that one with all the quarterback's names on the back to be retired. It would be fun to have a guy just end it, and you could just have one jersey with one name. So hopefully that's Gabriel because I think it would be great. I think the Cleveland Browns have a phenomenal fan base who are fully on board with their team and support them through a whole lot of shit throughout the years. And it would be great if they were great at some point.

23:56So I'm all for it. Now, as far as his stature, there have been short quarterbacks who have been successful before. I don't think it's as crazy in today's world with the rules and how we protect them. But there's no question that it does present its challenges and batting down passes is a real thing. that's not like a myth where it's like they don't get bad passes bad down it is easier to back down a pass that comes out at a lower trajectory it's just a fact yeah and that's

24:25Pat McAfee:just physics i believe is the math uh that would be the one in charge of that i think is no geometry no probably both man i wish i did you got it you got it work it out work it out well i'm just trying to figure out what scientific fact that you are so you don't get accused of going after him because maybe he's under six foot which a lot of people are uh kind of doing you're just trying to say hey this is just actual science here this is actual math here a ball that is starting from a lower place is going to be easier to maybe stop from getting from a higher place but there has been success in the past obviously everybody goes immediately to drew breeze because the way drew breeze was able to operate i think he's six foot maybe just even the way he was able to operate was literally through passing lanes that were somehow in every single play.

25:13Pat McAfee:I don't know how he was able to find them. He always looked out at the bottom of his helmet, it looked like, and he was able to wheel and deal. Amazing. But everybody's like, he's done it, so other people have done it. It's like, I think that's a lot. I don't think that batting passes is like, I don't think that's going to be the defining factor if he's a good quarterback or not. Batting passes is so rare. Even if you're one of the best in the league at it, it still happens so rarely that, yeah, you might get two in a game, but that's not going to decide if Dylan Gabriel is a great quarterback or not.

25:43What if Dylan Gabriel is exactly what they needed over there?

25:47Pat McAfee:That would be sweet. That would be very sweet, especially for that Browns team. And I think all pass rushers would feel this way. Yeah, we want the team that paid$40 million for a pass rusher to have success. We would like other teams to see that and be like, yep, yep, yep, this is how you win in this entire thing. But that defense is for real. That defense is rolling, dude. That defense is very, very, very good. And as a defensive guy who's kind of been through that before, I understand. Am I freezing? Am I a little choppy over here? Yeah, you're a little choppy. Not the audio, but definitely your face.

26:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, we caught your face about half. You know, one of those types of moves.

26:27AQ Shipley:We're taking technology. A Burnley connection.

26:29Pat McAfee:Maybe it's that soccer ball. What is that soccer ball behind you? Maybe it's radiating too much. My wife has the fastest goal in U.S. history. She scored in 48 seconds in her first ever appearance. I knew it was radiating too much energy. It was glitching the internet. I mean, how many, say this stat again, how many seconds? Fastest goal in U.S. women's soccer history, 48 seconds. Wow. Oh, yeah. Into her first game. She came on, subbed on, scored a goal immediately. So how did it work out? Did she slice and dice the entire team? What was it? Yeah, she picked it up just past the halfway line, took it down, and put it in the back, and then it was the coolest.

27:12I mean, we were still a little early in the days there, and I was like, this is fucking awesome.

27:19Pat McAfee:This is what we need. This is going to be all the time. This is cool. Yeah. Fastest of all time. That's incredible. I love what your boy Koa and your kids are going to be like. Mom and dad are very athletic. Uncles, very athletic. before we dive into football talk TJ said on a show that we're not allowed to show that guy's awesome I think noted awesome guy but TJ talked on a show about the amount of food that you guys ate as kids is it what so every once in a while we'll see you put out one of those rock like posts where you look like an asshole I'd say the amount of food you put out there but that is literally just what you guys grew up doing is just housing food is and is this the cheat code are you doing this to your kids right now he was uh he's not lying it was two breakfast two lunches two dinners every day um and it was the gallon of milk a day for the household um it was just yeah i mean my dad and my mom were very conscious of like they knew that we needed to put on weight and if we wanted to be athletic we needed to grow um and it was a whole lot of food and i think he told the story about peanut butter and jellies packed in the backpack for lunch uh for snacks at school so you'd have your two breakfasts in the morning you go to school eat your pb and j then you go get your double lunch at school and then the afternoon you have a pb and j and then you come home and have two dinners so it's a lot insane is that every day of your life how long do we do this for um i mean it was basically until the end of my playing career for sure uh that's i had to learn slow down and be like hey like once i retired you had to be like all right you can't do this anymore yeah well i don't think you can do it ever i think that is one of those things that if you was staying there for how what year did you how old were you when you retired uh i was 33 33 33 years old 33 years of eating like that think about how many calories just think about the amount of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches this guy what kind of workouts in between yeah we're doing swimming in the morning like yeah what how many workouts a day there was there were some there were some times where it was ridiculous i mean there were there were two a day workouts on practice days in the nfl it was it was dumb i've said it before there were times where it was dumb just but you don't know you got it's like that thing you got to push it to the limit until you find the limit so you're like all right i got to be the best by working harder than everybody else So I need to work harder than I've ever worked.

29:54And then you get, and then all of a sudden you blow out your back and you're like, okay, there's a line.

29:59AQ Shipley:I'm not even talking NFL. I'm talking like when you're in seventh grade, like what is, cause you're eating. Cause some people may see this and say, all right, let me just feed my kids and shit. Yeah, I know. And then it become fat. So, so what type of. Yeah. 500 pound life.

30:12Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah. This is not a recommendation, but there was a lot. And it's, this isn't like a thing where we were like, yes, dad, give us all this food. We just were hungry to be great. There was some pushback. There was some like, Dad, we're full. I don't want to eat. I don't want to work out. I'm not hungry, Dad. Just stop making me PBJ. I don't like peanut butter and jelly anymore. It sucks now. I understand. Go ahead. It's like we're very fortunate. I've told this story many times. My mom was a secretary, worked her way up to become the vice president. My dad was a firefighter. We were middle class, not rich, not poor.

30:48but they spent their money trying to better us like that. They wanted us to be great. They took it and we're very, very grateful and thankful for that.

30:58Pat McAfee:Hell yeah to the Watts. Hell yeah to the Watts. Okay. Let's talk about a Watt. TJ, we actually had to do a little bit of journalism and get the truth. Obviously what's good. Is that a full-sized mug? Oh yeah. You got an Andre the giant type situation. Wow. You got an Andre the giant type situation. whenever he's holding that beer can. You look... It looks like a Dixie cup. That is. That's a small... That's an espresso. That's an espresso cup. This is a 12-ounce cup. You're a monster. Two PB &Js. They sandwich the double lunch. So think about this. PB &J. Lunch. Lunch. PB &J. That's lunch. That is what lunch is.

31:43Pat McAfee:And then he holds this mug, and that thing disappears. Let's talk about another Watt that has lived a life like that and took over another country. What a performance. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, JJ, what were your thoughts on the Ireland game as a whole? Pretty sweet atmosphere. Obviously, we called you and kind of weird that TJ decided to lie because everyone knows that when he punted that ball into the Hogan stands, it was clearly an ode to Gaelic football. So a little weird that he wouldn't just be honest about that, but I get it. But overall, what did you think of this whole kind of experience over in Ireland?

32:18And we already are getting some of the stats back and the viewership. This was the second most watched NFL Network international game in history. So it looks like we will be going back to Dublin once again. The aisle, if you will. I'm a massive fan of Ireland. Been over there many times. I love it. I think the NFL, Dublin, everybody in Ireland knocked it out of the park. It looked incredible. It was a fun game to watch. I think the only change that I would make to it is the winning team should stay the next day. There should be a pub crawl for the winning team. I feel like that would be next level because you can't win the game in Dublin and then just hop straight on a plane and come back.

33:01You have to hit the pub.

33:03Pat McAfee:They should have a little crawl set up for that. I think that would be easy to call and contact. McQuaid would definitely set that up. yeah over here lad actually got a got a tunnel yeah follow me under this tunnel lad don't worry we'll be there in two seconds they should definitely or like at least at minimum on the field after the game like on thanksgiving when they give the turkey leg you gotta just be chugging guinness on the field after the game yeah i think i saw your brother and cam hayward maybe afterwards had a pint they were sharing and maybe some more were uh shared behind the scenes as you're on the bus and heading to the airport and everything but you're right why not for the irish game have it be different what's the difference.

33:39Pat McAfee:Oh, you go on a pub crawl afterwards. That'd be sweet. That would be a sick thing. Now, granted, definitely going to need a bye after that. Yeah. Maybe two. The game, certainly one thing. Very interesting what Minnesota's doing. Very interesting. I'm very excited to watch and see how this plays out for them. Okay, so they said they'd rather do this than go into Pittsburgh or into Cleveland. So what are your thoughts on that? Obviously, the travel is its own animal and every team has to be comfortable with what they're doing and there's no right answer. Obviously, people have left early people have left late.

34:09Pat McAfee:I don't even think you're allowed to leave too early anymore because of what rules are. Teams have won, teams have lost, whatever it is. In the travel, obviously guys say like, well, I'd rather save my bye week for later. I don't want to do it. It's like, I don't know what the right answer is. I don't know if there is a right answer. But choosing Ireland and London over Pittsburgh and Cleveland, in theory, made sense to me whenever I heard it. I would have never thought of it that way. Yeah, I think for me, the big difference here is there's the difference between going and staying two weeks and playing two weeks in the same place where you're kind of settled into the hotel, you're settled into the practice facilities, you got your routine, then going to Ireland, playing a game in Ireland, then switching countries, going to London, getting yourselves all reset up at the hotel and everything, and then playing a game there.

34:54I do think that that's different than like a Jacksonville staying over for two weeks just because of how much difference there is. I mean, practice fields and ice baths and everything is different. You have to reset up and pack and everything. So, I mean, maybe I'm making too big of a deal out of it there, but there's no doubt that the upheaval of your normal routine can affect you as a player.

35:18Pat McAfee:I think so, too. And it's a lot of bullshit there. Checking in, checking out. What's the new this? What's the new that? Obviously, we're on a different time. When do we talk to the family? Is the family here? What does the family need? I mean, there's just a lot that goes into that on the human side. So staying focused on the game is obviously a whole other task at hand. The Vikings are going to be looking to win this week. I mean, if they go 0-2, they're going to be looked at as doofuses. Not only do you pick up two losses, which you might have been able to steal one maybe in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, but also now your team has been international for two weeks.

35:48Pat McAfee:How do you get back on to Minnesota? I mean, there's going to be a lot of questions if they go 0-2. And they were close. Carson Wentz almost brought them back in. He did? The Carson Wentz experience, JJ, was happening right in front of our eyes over there. in Ireland. It was a special time. And now it heads to London to take on Dylan Gabriel. We can't wait for another 9.30 a.m. kickoff. We're looking at the games for this weekend across the board. Let's make sure we enjoy the good ones. They're going to be on. We've got a couple good ones. Yeah, we've got a couple good ones. And we will enjoy those.

36:22Pat McAfee:Thursday night's a big one. Rams, Niners, that's a big, big game. That's a good game. That's a very good football game. Looking forward to that. That's Thursday. Check out the rest here. Man, really wish.

36:36AQ Shipley:Buccaneers, Seahawks. Yeah, on that note, JJ, I know this would be a great game. Two former first-round quarterbacks found their footing, doing their thing. Two great Ohio State wide receivers, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Ibuka. But I know something near and dear to your heart. Jerseys. Swag. Yes. An all-time jersey matchup here. Which way are you leaning right here between the Bucs and the throwback Seahawks jersey? Dude, I do not know if you are going to see a better uniform matchup this year or even potentially in coming years. I mean, that is top, top tier. The thing I love about the Bucs, we all love the creamsicles, but there are some people that it can overwhelm.

37:20This, with the white, understated, the creamsicles allowed to pop, but it doesn't overpower you. But, like, see the – so, and also, here's the thing for me. The creamsicles, that's a perfect throwback. You get that out here once or twice a year. But the Seahawks, that's got to be their full-time. You've got to go back to that full-time. That is a top, top-tier uniform combo.

37:42Pat McAfee:Shout to Ari Mirov piecing this beautiful thing together, obviously, for us on the internet to remind us of this game happening. but anytime you get good unis on, the boys know they're probably going to get to keep them. So if you get to keep them, you would like the memory to be a good one. So obviously I think there is a little heightened environment, heightened atmosphere whenever you have a good uni. Now if you've got an ass uni, which some of these teams have certainly rolled them out, some guys don't even want to keep the jersey afterwards. So it's like, ooh, fuck it. So sometimes the jersey can weigh a lot more than in other games, and I think in this one it's going to be beautiful.

38:15Pat McAfee:Now the Falcons, you just got a chance to go learn more about them. Connor has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, B. John's been off to an unbelievable start. He leads the team in rushing and receiving. And this is kind of a trend almost right now with some of these running backs. I know Bucky Irving is up there after his 100-yard day on Sunday. And then there's a few others. McCaffrey kind of scattered in there. But B. John's by far the most dominant player for his team at any of those running backs. How do you feel about B. John possibly making a run at the MVP? I know he plays running back and it's a quarterback award, but do you think he might go on a little run here?

38:51Also, same note, Puka Nakua too. Yeah, I mean, obviously two incredible players you're talking about here. I had a chance to watch Bajon up and close this week and like you said, leading his team in receiving, leading his team in rushing and just dynamic. It's incredible to watch him play. His jump cuts, his explosion after the cut, his ability out of the backfield and something that's extremely underrated, but he's very good at it, is his blocking. He's a really good blocker, a willing blocker. So I think if the Falcons can get on a little roll and their offense plays like they did last week and not like they played against Carolina, there's certainly conversation that should be starting around Bajon Robinson and that tier of that MVP level tier if they can get on a little bit of a run.

39:37But just because of everything that he does, also he's just a great kid. It was a lot of fun to talk to him. He seems to have just a great head on his shoulders. He trains with McCaffrey in the offseason. He wants to grow. He wants to get better. He's definitely the type of guy that you love to see hyped up in this league. It's just all about ball and loves ball.

39:56Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's go to the next game that you're calling. That was last week. I can't wait to hear who's catching your eye. But there's another man that has been calling games too. And I don't know if you guys have shared any insight on what it's like to be good color commentators. but I do know you guys have shared similar thoughts, maybe differing thoughts on maybe a play. AQ Shipley's here, obviously, 12-year NFL fan. He posted the other day, I don't know if you saw this, it was a Deion Dawkins play, and AQ, basically what you said is like, hey, this is this guy's superpower. This is what Deion Dawkins do, right?

40:35Pat McAfee:Is that what you said? Yeah, I love him. Every time he sees that DN drop, he's looking to break some ribs, and not only does he get one, he gets two. Oh! He gets two. Now, Jage, we have heard that maybe you have a thought on this particular play about celebrating Deion Dawkins looking for ribs, looking for work, looking to help out there, Jage. I do have some thoughts. None of them are about Deion Dawkins. Deion Dawkins is a phenomenal football player, great football player. This has nothing to do with him. This has to do with A.Q. Shipley and acting like this. We just took two blindside shots.

41:09Completely legal, completely fine. No problem at all. I get it. It's part of the game. But this, I don't know. Like, it's like it's all posted in a free sack. He called you a scumbag, buddy. He called you a scumbag.

41:22Pat McAfee:Where I'm unblocked and I post a free sack and it's like, that guy's a beast. It's like, well, I mean, the quarterback laid down for me. He was just laying there and I touched him for the sack. Yeah, just curious. How many sacks you had on TT stuns, TE stuns, ET stuns? Just curious. As the guy picked the shit out of the tackle when his eyes aren't looking at him. boom and then you come freezing at the same thing pretty similar but i didn't post it on the internet and say wow look at how dominant this guy is he knocked somebody's ribs out that wasn't looking i got knocked out by ben skronik one time flat on my ass good ball player and the ram posted it for like three weeks straight rightfully so but like i wasn't looking i had no idea it was coming it was from the outside and yeah it's pretty easy to knock somebody on their ass when they're not looking yeah jj saying hey maybe let's not be glorifying things that maybe most people could do deon dawkins has a lot of other tape that maybe we should be celebrating is that what you're saying jj yes thank you no problem i think you could go out there and knock those dudes out right now in the same situation i think mckenzie might be able to and i would love every second of that mckenzie could potentially do that but you say uh you're celebrating because you don't here's why i'm celebrating and this is why because all right for the rest of the game they run a zone blitz and they drop the end, that three technique has to think about it.

42:38Not only does the three technique have to think about it, now the nose guard has to think about it because Deion Dawkins, your left tackle not only hit the three technique, now he comes and gets the opposite nose guard. And so, because of that, I'm celebrating. It's a heads-up play. Not every tackle does that. You know that. We've watched a million tackles just sit there and eat up space. But to have the wherewithal, to have the heads up, to be able to go back in and get one, not only get one, but get two, now everybody's thinking about it on the defense side of the ball. I do agree with your argument there.

43:06I do agree that not everybody's cleaning that up, that not everybody is doing it, especially the second one. I agree. And it is an effort thing. There's no doubt. Nothing wrong with any of that. I will now... Conceive! Conceive! That's concede! I'll give credit. You called him a wrecking ball. You didn't say it was dominant. You just said he was a wrecking ball, which I guess technically in that sense, he was a wrecking ball.

43:33Pat McAfee:Wow, and he kind of came in like a wrecking ball to your argument there. Cue it up. Cue up the song. Cue it up. Cue up wrecking ball. Wrecking ball. Go ahead. Hit it. I came in like a wrecking ball. Yeah! Yes! Yes! We like that. Good win, AQ. Hey, this guy's pitching shutout right now. Seven and a third innings. That's right. He's got some real magic hook in there. Now, follow up. He does want to ask you a question about the game you're about to call. Yeah, it's a game we thought was going to be a lot better when the season started. Texans, Ravens, you're calling it. You got Matt Burke calling plays.

44:11What is he bringing that's different than the previous coordinator, and what are you seeing? Obviously, you love this guy. Love to hear your thoughts on that. Yeah, I mean, Matt Burke obviously calling the defense for the first time last week and getting a shutout. First time since 2010. I was a little sad to learn that I never had a shutout in Houston. I just assumed we had one. I didn't.

44:31Pat McAfee:Oh, that's – Yeah, but also like it's, you know, the Texans defense is dominant. They're unbelievable first in points per game. Titans, we know, have their own issues and struggles, so there's no doubt about that. But I think more so than birth calling defense, which he is a fantastic defensive coordinator and knows what he's doing, is it frees up to Miko to just be the head coach and to go out there and sometimes go help the offense or talk to CJ to just focus on the decision making and to kind of play that global CEO as opposed to having double duty with the coordinator calling the plays and head coach, which I think is huge.

45:06I'm a big advocate for the CEO head coach as opposed to the coordinator slash head coach. And I think this is a great step for the Texans.

45:14Pat McAfee:There's obviously been some that have been massively successful as play callers and head coaches. Andy Reid is who we all kind of point to as the guy who's been able to do it for so damn long. but I enjoy the thought of a CEO head coach as well. Being able to tap in with everybody, spend more time connecting with everybody, and also spending your life doing things that are good for the whole team as opposed to just one side of the ball. But a lot of these guys were getting jobs because of how good they were at calling plays. It's an interesting dynamic. It's almost a Peter principle in some of those situations.

45:42Pat McAfee:We're like, hey, you get the job because of how good of a play caller you are, but then you take the job and you say, well, I can't be a play caller anymore. So now you have a completely different job that you didn't get the job because... It's an interesting – good luck to everybody out there. Go get it. Hard job. Hard job. Coaching as a whole is an incredibly hard job. Are the Texans back? I think this weekend is going to be a big one to tell us that. I mean, like we all know the Titans are struggling right now. So that is a tough one to use as a measuring stick. The first half did not look good, only up 6-0 after the first half.

46:14But then they came out in the second half, did what they're supposed to. This week, I mean, the Ravens are decimated by injuries. just not just lamar everywhere they have guys out left and right and they're already the 32nd ranked defense in the nfl so it's i i've kind of build i'm kind of building this one a little bit uh on sunday we're just talking about it it's on one hand it's the immovable object versus the unstoppable force you have derrick henry in the offense who are third in points per game against the texans defense who's first in points per game on the flip side you've got the movable object versus the stoppable force.

46:49Texans' offense hasn't been great. Ravens' defense is 32nd. So it's just going to come down to who executes better. And if the Texans' offense actually is back on track and rolling, it could be coming around. How did the Colts do last week?

47:03Pat McAfee:All right. We should have won that game. We're dropping balls. It's a battle. We're holding on to him, pal. We got one guy who made a couple mistakes, but guess what? He's dynamic on the field, so we're going to make sure he gets it right. And it's a good time to lose the game. It is. It's a good time to lose this game. Or tie. Especially to the or tie game. Yeah. Your thoughts, Jage, on the Colts should have won this game. We all know that. Talk to Matthew Stafford afterwards. Matthew Stafford said, that's a good team over there. Yeah, he did. Yeah, that's a good team over there. That was good news.

47:29Pat McAfee:That's all I needed to hear. Let's talk about the tie from you. I need to hear your thoughts on Cowboys Packers, Micah to Jerry World. Did you see Micah come out with the band on his way still for his first time going onto the field back onto Jerry World? He had a band around his waist, like one of those warm-up bands. He kind of just kept it for the entirety. And at one point, he grabs it so he knew it was there. But that was interesting to me. I'd never seen that before. But what do you think about it ending 40-40, tie ballgame? And Jerry Jones going, well, they got Maka, and we got Wega, and we tied.

48:03Pat McAfee:So you tell me. Were you hearing your thoughts, Jay? I didn't see the workout band until now. That's an interesting one. Accident? Do you think that's accident? That'd be really tough to be an accident, man, because that is very restricting around your hip flexor than clearly your glutes. I think you would know that that was there, but I don't know. I guess. It was a crazy game. It was a wild game. I haven't seen any Jordan Love quotes since, but did he know that the game was going to end if that clock hit zero at the end? Well, the floor seemed to not know that. He said that today, and he was like, wow, I was just thinking on the sideline, like, this is going to be bad.

48:46We're not even going to get another playoff. But he did say. When?

48:50Pat McAfee:Yeah. He said that today. He said, you know, I started looking up at the clock, and it was going down, and I was thinking, oh, my God, we're not going to get a playoff. And then that's what happened. That's what it looked like, man. Yeah, bingo. Bingo. But he did say. He didn't lie. We appreciate him. Let's give him his floor for not lying. And he did say that was embarrassing, and that can never happen again. yeah man there you go do we hear him ty it was like watching a slow motion car crash in front of your face i was just looking at the clock like oh my god there's gonna be no time left it's a very humbling experience and obviously it's unacceptable quite honestly uh i'm i'm sure it'll be teach tape around i'm sure everybody will be done true very true yes they will hey uh If we get in this situation, what are we doing?

49:42Pat McAfee:Not what these idiots did. Okay, we are going to know that we need another play. We're in field goal range. We can tie. It sucks, but we can certainly tie if we have to. Didn't feel like Jordan was in. Watching that live, I thought for sure that clock was going to at minimum hit zero and they might put one back on. It's crazy that that clock did not hit zero. And especially in Jerry world, I think a lot of people would think Jerry, especially on big Michael's return night, there would be maybe a favorable clock. That thing stopping at one was certainly good news for Packers fans as McManus came out and tied that up.

50:16Pat McAfee:But everybody on earth now just says, this shouldn't be allowed. Jage, your thoughts? I mean, obviously, as a fan and somebody watching the game, I do not want to see it end in a tie. I want to see some form of victor. Now, I have also personally played in back-to-back full overtime games on a Sunday and a Thursday. so i had to play overtime full 15 minutes on a sunday go on the road on a thursday at 11 a.m on thanksgiving day and play a full overtime game on thursday so i played 10 quarters in five days that sucks that is a lot of football and it is so i completely get why we don't but nobody likes ties man like nobody we got to find i don't i don't want to go to like a goal kick situation but that would be electric if you just toss the kickers out there and start backing them up.

51:08Pat McAfee:Golden boot, yes, we agree. We'd be taking what soccer has as their only electrifying thing and adding it to our game. And it's only happening after an overtime period. There's a lot of football that's already taking place. The boys can't figure it out. Let's go ahead and get this done. B.A. pitched yesterday. Offenses, eight-yard line, one play, score a touchdown or not score a touchdown. So instead of the golden boot, just have your offense, defense, go out there one play ball on the eight yard line obviously if offense scores defense gets a stop uh that team wins if both teams score that's like college after the first two right yeah but i think you got to go for two in the second one now i don't even think it's the third one right i think that's the big difference yeah yeah yeah that rule has changed one of the coaches didn't know that just like two weeks ago hey let's go to hammer dad dad ap tone that uh second overtime you have to go for two.

51:59Pat McAfee:Was that this year? Last year? When did that rule change? It's very, very recent. I want to say it's this year because I remember Georgia Georgia Tech last year, they were arguing that Georgia Tech should have gone for two after the second overtime, and they didn't. They just kept playing overtimes wherever. Because it used to be the third one. I think it used to be the third one. Now it's the second one. But do they still do the thing where they do dueling two-point conversions after, like, two? Yeah. No. Are they really? Yeah, they don't even go back to the 25 or whatever. They only do two-point conversions.

52:31Pat McAfee:Oh, fuck it. Oh, yeah, because Georgia... Yes. Yes, I do remember that. Yeah, that is awesome. But just move it to the... There's like seven of them. Texas A &M had the one where it was like seven. It was going back and forth. Maybe just start with that. Where are you this week? Where are we at game day? Alabama. Mm-hmm. Oh. Hosting Vanderbilt. Alabama, pretty good team. Who have they beat this year? that's oh no we don't need to know that we know let's talk about vandy vandy let's let's hype vandy up let's give vandy some love they're probably first time on game day yeah i think it is a long time or ever i think ever i think i mean jay cutler had that run right with vandy i assume maybe they had some good hype then but just the thought last year that we're gonna maybe try to get to a vandy none of the schedule never lined up but it was certainly like uh hey we gotta go we gotta go show Vandy to the world right now that they're a school this is out of control that they were able to turn this quickly with just a couple pieces and a culture change and it's like good for Vandy so getting a chance to celebrate them this week while they travel to Alabama will be fun Florida State Miami was certainly where I think everybody thought we were headed including us and then the Virginia game happens and they lose and it's like still a big game but after a loss the fact that game day is viewed that way and I'll continue to say this it's crazy to be a part of people are like hey it has to come to our game like that's a cool thing to be a part of like that's very humbling you know what i mean like hey this game this sport is so big so large so much tradition so much history so much pageantry and it's like i'm a part of something that is just considered a part of the fabric of that entire thing very lucky to to do that i would like that to be said it's it's awesome it's incredible i mean it's literally a part of like, it's, it's become just as much a part of college football as the actual games, which is so cool.

54:21And then I also have to tell you this, every week I go into these stadiums now calling these games and it's been really cool. Like the stadium workers, whether it's the security people or it's the people operating the elevators every single week so far this season, somebody has said to me, love watching you on the Macapay show. I watch that show every day. It's such a great show. So you, and you guys do a great job. So your demographic and audience is the people doing it, out there working, putting in the time, the police officers, everybody loving it. So it's been really cool to see that response.

54:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're very thankful for the folks that watch this show, but also we're thankful for you coming by the show. You're great on our show, brother, just like you're great in a booth. We appreciate the hell out of you. How are Burnley and Espanol doing? We've got a big weekend coming up. Everybody plays on Sunday. I've got the Texans Ravens. Burnley's got Aston Villa. Espanol's got Real Betis. Betis? I don't know how to pronounce it. The buses team? That's a good squad in La Liga. That's a tough game. What's the name of the team, Gump? Real Betis. Okay, so it's not Jerome. Do we know that for sure?

55:22They do say Betis in Spain.

55:24Pat McAfee:Okay, we don't know for sure if the bus is associated with Betis, but they are a good team. The Espanol squad needs to continue. Do we continue winning, keep winning, or start winning again? We've been drawing, so we could Get on the W train again. We're rolling. That's what we're talking about. More draws again. Hey, Rog. Rog, you hear what he just said? That's what they're doing. Yeah. Okay. But it's Betis. Yeah, Jerome Betis' team, you know. And they're calling it football. Okay, we can't be doing that. Commish, enough. Immediate meeting. 32 only. Let's get a rule done. Can't have another tie.

56:03And change that primetime Thanksgiving game, too. Get the angles out there.

56:06Pat McAfee:All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, and he is future first ballot Hall of Famer, J.J. Watt. Yay! He's the man. J.J. is the man. I'm happy he's doing well in the booth. Yeah, it's awesome. Hey, you are as well, aren't you? I appreciate that. I saw a video of you calling it. I like the energy. I didn't know you were sitting on like a little stair in the corner. Yeah, you can get real tight. I didn't know that either. You get with your guy. You're allowed to be next to your... Pliable. I'm pliable. I can really compact down. What are you watching there? Are you watching the little monitor?

56:39Pat McAfee:Are you watching? No, I'm watching live. Where the hell is D-Buck going? D-Buck, he's so upset. He said, I got to go. He's got to go. We had a little super duper donuts this morning. Oh, yeah, that's right. The dirt donuts. Oh, a lot of ingredients in these things. Dirt? Well, AQ brought some healthy donuts this morning. Yeah, I just assumed they were made with dirt. I assumed that too, yeah. No, they're delicious. Delicious. Okay. But I think there's a lot of things in there that make you dump your pain. Yeah, that's everything. They're both at dumping donuts, and Darius is certainly going through that right now.

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57:47Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond the logo. Every did you see that moment. You bet. What records are going to be broken this season?

58:05AQ Shipley:All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN. All season long.

58:16Pat McAfee:The program begins now. Football! It is magical and we're lucky to talk about it every single day, but this hour is going to be a little bit different. We're going to be talking about another sport that's in the middle of a magical another playoff run. Wild card story yesterday continues into today and then we're going to find out who's the next Mr. October. Yeah. Who's going to be banging pennants on the wall? Who's going to be hitting the ball further than the other team? and what pitchers are going to be able to find that strike zone better than everybody else. What names will be etched in history?

58:50What teams will get to the mountaintop? We have started MLB postseason.

58:57Pat McAfee:Hell yeah! I guess I could say the MLB postseason because the would be the postseason. MLB would be the descriptor. Correct. So it's the MLB postseason that is currently happening, and we've had some magical moments. We're talking about back-to-back jacks. We're talking about a big-time comeback in one of the biggest rivalries in all of sports. And then we got a team up there in Detroit that may be going on a little bit of a run, even though the boys had quite a collapse at the end of the year. They tried to scoobble 14 strikeouts, pitched an absolute gem. Some people were calling it the best pitching performance in all of baseball history.

59:34Pat McAfee:That's a big win. There's actually starting right now. Hopefully they just win this thing. Let's get out of Cleveland, move on to the next round. I was watching somebody streaming named Jason, the Los Angeles Dodgers, and it was a Shohei at bat, and I don't know if he expected Shohei to go yard, but he certainly did. And in that moment, that coach, Jason, he lost his mind and told some truths about this man. This Shohei man is unbelievable. He is the one. Now, I know Big Dumper is going to be joining us here in a matter of moments. Kyle Schwarbo is going to be joining us in a matter of moments here.

1:00:10Pat McAfee:This Shohei guy's special, man. The biggest moments he performs. Chaos happening around him all the time, seemingly. An ability to lock in that we haven't seen but from a few different people. You talk about the Mamba mentality, obviously, with Kobe Bryant with his work ethic and his ability to lock in. Talk about Michael Jordan, obviously, flipping a switch whenever he gets into the entire thing. I got to witness it with Adam Vitatari. I'm sure Serena Williams had her version of how she would flip the switch and get locked in and just kind of absolutely dominate. This Shohei guy, somehow, with fire literally burning around him personally and in the stadiums because his ratings are going up and to the right.

1:00:45Pat McAfee:He's building this sport in other countries. And obviously in Japan, he's one of the biggest stars on earth. NHK ratings. NHK ratings up, whatever, over there. And then he just steps in the biggest moments and has no idea. He's almost unconscious, this guy, whenever he's playing sports. It's unbelievable to watch. I'm happy he's a part of a time that we are alive, Tysha. Yeah, without a doubt. and the way they deploy him too, the fact that he's batting lead off a lot, it just, their lineup is so deep, so you can do that, but you could just see last night how demoralizing that is. The Reds have this kid, Hunter Green, who throws over 100 miles an hour.

1:01:22He is an absolute stud, and then you have all this momentum and excitement for being in the playoffs, and then boom, first at bat of the game, Shohei goes yard, and it's like, oh shit, here we go again. We got to basically be perfect from here on out. Comes up a little bit later, hits another homer. Teoscar Hernandez, who is another guy who they were thinking about maybe letting go, but they ended up bringing him back. He's clutching the playoffs. He hits two homers last night. Tommy Edmond hits a homer last night. This is what good teams, especially teams who hit home runs, this is what they do.

1:01:54It's just contagious. Once a couple guys run into them, then it's like, okay, now we're just going to see guys throughout the order start hitting homers. To the Reds' credit, They had a little bit of a comeback last night and ended up losing 10-5. You can see Rob Lowe's losing his fucking mind there. He's a great host. He is. It is. It is. But the Dodgers are unbelievable once again, and a lot of people are already looking ahead and saying, man, if we can get Philly's Dodgers in the next round, that would be sublime.

1:02:23Pat McAfee:Well, Schwarbo, we know he hits it a long way. He does. We know Harper hits it a long way. Shohei Otani last night, hardest hit home run off a 100-mile-an-hour pitch stack ass there, stack that. 117.7 miles an hour, I think, is coming out there. I thought Judge hit a single that hard. Well, this is a home run. Oh, my bad. Home run off. Why'd you do that? No, I genuinely was like, well, Judge hit his ball 150 miles an hour. I was like, that's not that fast. It was a home run versus single. He's been saying single very loud, hasn't he? And it's a best of three. It's a best of three series. I don't know if everybody really understands that because there was a time where these games were best of one.

1:03:00Pat McAfee:Do you remember that 12-year NFL Super Bowl championship. It was electric. AJ Burnett on the mound, Neil Walker, the hometown kid. Oh, Coach is doing his thing. Place is going crazy. It wasn't that long ago, but it feels like forever. It feels like it's never going to happen again. And it's certainly not within arm's reach at this moment. Even though we got to Cy Young winner in the entirety of it all. It's not even close, bro. Can't even. Let's get back to talking ball. That's not your NFL vet, Gary Shabal. Thank you.

1:03:30AQ Shipley:You said you like him batting leadoff? Yeah. I mean, yeah. And Judge bats second now, right? Yeah. Is that like very different? Is that something new? Yeah, typically. Yeah, exactly. But I think it's just now the way it goes. It's like, hey, we want to guarantee this guy's going to get as many at bats as possible. And for stuff like that, it's like when you – who knows what the percentages are, but when you hit a leadoff home run, I would – It's like a blocked punt. Exactly. I would imagine you win quite a bit of the time.

1:04:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, it feels like that's exactly similar type stat because the vibes and everything. Exactly. Dodger Stadium was crazy. See, opening kickoff return over. Right. I mean, you might as well take it. Schwarbo, is he bat four? So he batted leadoff quite a bit last year. He's been hitting third this year. Okay, so I'm going to ask him. It seems like when I was a boy with what the normal thing was, guys batting cleanups the best. That's the big bop. That's where you want to be. because we're going to get him on base, and then our guy's going to come in and hit him in. And then Shohei going leadoff has been like a story, basically.

1:04:34Pat McAfee:And I just thought to myself, oh, he must not be like the best hitter because he's also one of their best pitchers. It's like, no, he is the best hitter on their team, right? Is he the best hitter on their team by far? Getting more at-bats seems like a much smarter strategy than depending upon three people to get on base for your fourth guy to finally get a hit. I don't know. Is that Mookie? Yeah, Mookie, Freddie Freeman, Teoscar Hernandez. I mean, that's the thing. when you have multiple all-stars. They're buying a championship. But no, it's, you know, like any more. The thing with Shohei, too, is it's like if he doesn't hit a homer, like he's stealing seconds, you know, like he's an absolute weapon.

1:05:12And that was always a lot of people with Schwarber. It's like, well, the whole point of your leadoff hitter is to get on base. So it's like he's only like a 240 hitter. You wouldn't say he's a guy that hits for average, but he hits a lot of home runs. So it's kind of like a pick your poison, you know. Do you want a guy to get a single or a walk, or do you want a guy to hit a homer the first pitch of the game? Dumpers hitting?

1:05:32Pat McAfee:Third. Okay, so third, first. We know baseball. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a guy who won a youth league baseball championship at the age of seven in a 10-year-old league. Wow. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawke. Yeah, Hawke. Hawke. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. We got new shape on this thing. We got new shape. He's got the bottom of the sides trimmed up a little bit just to keep it clean. That's all it did. Can you turn that thing sideways real quick just so he – Ooh, a little low fade. I got to keep growing out the top part.

1:06:04I saw Shohei hit that live, by the way. That was pretty magical, even though it was against my Cincinnati Reds, unfortunately.

1:06:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, Cincinnati Reds might be outmatched in this one, which I think – I actually heard Ty talking yesterday after I think he had Jack and Diet. He said, like, something about home runs, and there was something about the Yankees, we're not playing the Reds, which is basically what was said, I think, in a nutshell or whatever. Is that accurate? Yeah, pretty much. You guys are boppers as well, right? Yes. But you're taking on the Red Sox and old buddy who's a great pitcher and a Reds guy potentially gettable for dong shots. Very, very good, kind of same deal, but the guy the Red Sox have is very proven.

1:06:44This kid for the Reds came up very late in the season or about midway through the season, and he's got skeins type stuff. He throws hard as shit. It moves a lot, but he's still a young guy. And he hasn't been in that situation before.

1:06:57Pat McAfee:And Shohei, no matter the situation, seemingly has already been there at least a thousand times. Correct. Just so comfortable, so calm. I forget the one thing that was happening. They made a big scene out of him doing something. Obviously, everything he does. Big scene. He does the hat tip. Then he gets in there. Dong shot. It's like the whole energy and attention that was just given. Hey, we just stopped this entire show for you, basically. Yep. Thank you. Yep, all right. This is what you came for, right? Yeah, exactly. And it's gone. It's like just so methodic of an assassin for his position.

1:07:32Pat McAfee:We're lucky to watch it. Okay, let's talk a little bit of NFL news. In your state, the great state of Ohio, there's a new starting quarterback for the Cleveland Brownies. Now, stop me if you've heard that before.

1:07:47Pat McAfee:Because the jersey, the new starting quarterback, We got a new start, we got a new start. We got a new...

1:07:57Pat McAfee:Couch. They're laughing stuff. Like a sofa. They're on ESPN2 because there's baseball on ESPN1. And they're laughing at us. And we're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you. This might be the one. Dylan Gabriel drafting the third round out of Oregon with a stop at Oklahoma. Obviously he can spin it. He's 5 '11". He's taking on the Minnesota Vikings. And Brian Flores' defense on Sunday. What do you think the storyline will be, AJ? Oh, man. The storyline will be, like you guys talked about, batted balls. We'll see what happens. I think I don't worry as much with shorter guys with batted balls.

1:08:29I worry more about, like, having giant O and D linemen in front of you taking away the passing lane so you might not see a guy sitting in a void or whatever. But I think Dylan Gabriel might surprise some people and come out here and light it up a little bit. We know if he just takes care of the ball and they have success running it, they can absolutely win any game they're in because of that defense.

1:08:46Pat McAfee:And B-Flow's defense just got got a little bit by Aaron Rodgers. Now, granted, it wasn't a 40-piece or anything like that, but there was some success had by Aaron. What does Dylan and Stefanski take from that, D-butt?

1:08:56AQ Shipley:Getting the ball out quick. Number one, we talked about it, I think, Monday. Aaron Rodgers got the ball out on average like 2.17 seconds, which is the fastest since 2016. And that's kind of Dylan Gabriel's, I guess, superpower. When you do have limitations, you got to do other things very, very well. The other shorter quarterbacks are good at that or improvise with their legs like younger Russell Wilson or a Kyler Murray. So, you know, we shall see. But it is kind of an advantage to the shorter quarterbacks from the secondary standpoint because it's hard to see them. Like if you're in the deep part of the field, if you're deep half safety or post safety, a lot of times you get indicators on quarterbacks when they go when they take the hand off the ball.

1:09:36AQ Shipley:A lot of times you get these little guys get lost. So it's a little tougher. But obviously you got to deal with those big boys.

1:09:42Pat McAfee:Are we out on Minnesota or no? Lukewarm. Lukewarm on Minnesota. I was all the way in.

1:09:49AQ Shipley:As far as being like contenders? Yeah. Out. What? I don't trust the quarterback position. What about JJ comes back? I don't trust JJ. Beyond that, they were pretty good up front on defense last year. They let some guy go. They bring in Hargrave and Jonathan Allen, who they think are going to shore things up or make it better. These are really good football players who are just a little bit past their prime at this point, and they're getting pushed all over the field. Yeah, the Steelers. Surprising. Yeah, Steelers.

1:10:14Pat McAfee:I didn't expect the Steelers to do what they did to the Vikings. I think we were all rather surprised. Van Genke didn't play on Sunday either, did he? I mean, obviously. But, yeah, that was kind of the big thing with the Vikings, especially if you're in the NFC North. It's like, wow, they're getting all these guys. I mean, that was always the question, though. It was like they could have had Aaron Rodgers potentially, but they were very comfortable with J.J. McCarthy. Could have had Sam Darnold. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So we'll see, but I don't think – I mean, I still think we maybe need to see a little bit more of J.J., but as of right now, yeah, I don't think you'd be saying like, oh yeah, this is the exact same team that almost went 15-2 last year and won the NFC North.

1:10:54Pat McAfee:I trust KOC. I think we all do. We'll see what the Minnesota Vikings are. They have their second international game in a row coming up in London against Dillon Gabriel and the Cleveland Browns. Let's pivot to baseball postseason. How are you doing? Keep it moving. This man led the NL in home runs this year for the Philadelphia Phillies. He's an IU Hoosier, absolute icon and legend. Three-time All-Star, World Series champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Schwarber. Yeah! Schwarber, how you doing, Schwarber? What's up, guys? How we doing? Hey, do you remember how you did at game day? I think you did really well picking games at game day.

1:11:35Pat McAfee:Do you recall that, and did you keep up with that afterwards? If I recall, I think I was the leading picker that season. I think I finished 8-1. Are they keeping score or not? Oh, yeah, there is a leaderboard. Okay. There was a leaderboard. Yeah, and I'll be at the top of it, I guess. Crush it, and you looked the coolest. Let's talk about what you have going on in your life right now. Obviously, we're postseason baseball. You guys have the longest season out of any. I mean, 162 games is crazy to think about. Postseason, though, you've had a lot of success in it. Obviously, the Phillies have as well.

1:12:10Pat McAfee:Do you guys ramp it up? Like in football, regular season has a speed. Playoffs have a speed. Super Bowl has a speed. Is that the same for baseball, and how does that kind of work? Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things where it's unsaid. It's, you know, you play 162 to get to this point, right? Like 162 games, you know, you get evaluated, you get everything based off 162. Now, when you come into the postseason, you get a postseason share, but it's not like you're getting your normal check for 162 games. This is all about pride. This is about a team. This is about us figuring out how to win a game, how to win a series.

1:12:57Stats don't matter. No one cares if someone's sitting 500, someone's sitting 100. It's did you win the game or did you lose the game? And I think that's the beautiful part about the postseason, that it just brings out the best in everyone. And the senses get heightened. The fans are heightened, right? Everything is to another level. And, you know, for us right now, we're not playing. The postseason is going on. We're just, you know, we got the level. Oh, no. I don't know. He's saying too much. We're trying to get everyone healthy, but we're still trying to get an environment. We're trying to create an environment that's going to be postseason-like.

1:13:43We have an inter-squad game tonight. We're going to have 30 ,000 people there watching us play inter-squad, and it's going to be a blast.

1:13:49Pat McAfee:Hold on, hold on. Is that breaking news? I didn't know that was happening. There's going to be open inter-squad so that maybe you don't get rusty during this time. Is this something that you guys have done in the past? Because in baseball, especially with 162, feels like there's a rhythm feels like there's a schedule feels like there's all those things so whenever you sit out these games just it happened in college football actually the teams have got all the first round buys because they were so much better than everybody else actually lost out on like two weeks of ball kind of got rusty had to get reawoke you guys feel that way in baseball and how long have you done things like this this is awesome at right before especially with how your fans are over there that place a real home field advantage 30 000 people will be there tonight?

1:14:31Pat McAfee:Does this happen on a regular basis? No, this doesn't happen normally. Last year, we had an inner squad, and obviously there was friendly way drinking going on between all the players. We wanted to make this feel like this is worth something, that we're just not going through the motions. Now, you just add in 30 ,000 people into our stadium, and I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm like, who are people going to be cheering for, and who are people going to be booing tonight? offense yeah it's all i said this happens in football as you know in football training camp whenever fans come to training camp teams playing against each other offense throws a 70 yard bomb on our number one corner on our number one defense the fans are going absolutely ape you can have your ace out there somebody hits a bomb they're going to celebrate the home run i think do you think so or no oh i mean they're going to be going wild for any run that's being scored tonight i'm like it's going to be interesting it's going to be fun but like this is just for us to stay in that rhythm right like it's just making sure that when we do you know we know that whoever comes out of this series between the reds and the dodgers you know they're going to be primed up they're going to be juiced up they just want a big series and now it's on us to match that intensity and coming out out of the gate where you know they just played a high high intensity series and we you know we're playing an inner squad so we got to match that level any way that we can.

1:15:56Pat McAfee:Hey, let's make sure these Johns bring it. The 30 ,000 Johns are a big part of this entire thing. Let's make sure we're bringing it. They're trying to match what L.A. felt like last night. Yeah, right. For sure. Hey, I mean, I think they'll step up to the challenge if I know anything about the people from Philly. AJ has a brand new haircut if you would like to talk about it. He's a low fade, and other than that, he does have a question for you, Schwarbo. Yeah, Kyle, so I was I don't know if you watched the Ryder Cup at all, but the U.S. had a hard time draining putts, and they were talking about, hey, sometimes when Golf is weird.

1:16:26When you try, you continue to try harder and harder, and it means more, you actually play worse. I feel like baseball, especially playoff baseball, is it ever like that when you're sitting there and you're in a batter's box? Not you specifically, but if you've seen players to where they put too much on it. How do you treat it like we understand what this is, but it's just another game. I've got to be free-flowing and not sit there and panic the whole time. Correct. You know, I feel like, you know, and I can give you a specific instance. Last at bat, game 162, bottom of the ninth inning. I'm leading off.

1:17:01I'm like, I'm going deep here. I'm going to try to go deep, try to end this thing. And I look like a freaking idiot, right? Like, just like not taking your swing, not taking anything. You're pulling off. You're doing bad things, right? And it's like, why would I ever do that? Why would I tell myself the one time I'm going to tell myself I'm going to try to go deep? You're definitely not going deep. You're going to roll it over the second base and you're going to look like a like a ding dong. So just do what you normally do. You know, like that's that's the thing is like just because everything's heightened, the senses are heightened that it doesn't mean you have to be Superman.

1:17:41We're we're all great. We're all really good at what we do. and just with them being in, you know, say the postseason or say the Ryder Cup, these are the best of the best, right? That you just being you is going to be great enough, you know, and without you having to go out there and reach for more, I feel like that just brings out a lesser version of yourself. So the more that you stay within your side yourself, stay within yourself and you know that all the preparation that you've done before the game or on the putting greens or on your practice round, whatever it is, that all that work that you just put into that, all the tournaments before that, all the games before that, that mindset that you had in all those games, it's going to work out way more than it would if you try to go out there and try to be the Superman or whoever it is and trying to do some more extra things.

1:18:35Just be you and see what happens because you're already good enough.

1:18:40Pat McAfee:Maybe you need to go coach that team. and I love the messaging you just sent out there. Yeah, that sounds like a guy who wears a C on his chest. We appreciate that messaging. And I also like the fact we're trying to hit ding-dongs, not be ding-dongs. We don't do anything of that. And whenever you're in the highest moments, don't you think this, as a punter or kicker that I was, I was more of like, I'm an athlete, I'll put the ball there. You know, I played so much soccer, I was a very good ball striker in soccer. Could put the ball wherever the hell I wanted, really. So I treated football similarly like that.

1:19:15Pat McAfee:I'm like, I'll just put the ball through there. Yeah, but what are you focusing on? Nah, I'm just going to put the ball through the uprights. Then in the biggest moments, they come. And it's like, oh, what am I going to think about here? What do I need to do for this to happen? And I didn't really have it. Then you rely on your fundamentals in the biggest moments. You legitimately rely on your fundamentals. And it's all your work that builds your fundamentals. And I think all of that goes into being confident. it like i think what you just broke down there is having confidence in your process and it's like uh when you start getting outside of yourself you don't believe that what you did was enough you know and that's uh that's like a phrasing or a way to kind of put your mindset so you don't do it it's like do you trust and believe in yourself yeah all right we'll go fucking do it then as opposed to i didn't prepare enough oh my god this is this is not i should not be here right now because i've been there and that is not that's not a fun place to be with a lot of eyes on you and baseball is like that every single pitch.

1:20:08Pat McAfee:On that note, about every single pitch and you thinking to yourself, oh, I'm going long here, I'm going to pump one. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Schwarbo, playoff baseball, obviously situational hitting is paramount. Need to have it. And any time you look at the box score, it seems like typically the teams who perform better with runners in scoring position always win those games. But for you specifically, like I know you just kind of mentioned it there, but be honest, like are you trying to hit a homer every single time? the way how violently you swing it's just ridiculous when you make contact it does seem like you are going to hit a homer and is that uh is that kind of a conversation between you and your manager where it's like hey listen like we we understand you know with the way our lineup's constructed like that's just what we need from you we need you to hit homers and we need you to drive in runs and you obviously led the nl in both of those categories uh so to answer the question no i don't try and i i feel like that's a product of you know like i said like if i'm going to try to do that that it's just not good and literally my process every time i'm i'm at the plate is you know i have my game plan i have everything that you know i've watched the video i've watched this guy pitch uh but it all just comes back to staying through the middle of the field and trying to hit a low line drive, right?

1:21:31Like the low line drive is probably the most perfect, you know, if you can go by anything, it's the most perfect struck baseball, uh, that you could have versus, you know, you got to think about if you're hitting the middle of baseball, it's going to come off low and come off hot. Right. So now if I go a little bit down, that's where you start getting your fly balls that start when you get your, your higher line drives that's home runs that's doubles right and so if i'm just telling myself i'm going to stay through the middle of the field and i'm going to give myself the most margin of error right i'm going to stay through the middle field so if i'm early it's going to right center i'm a little bit late going to left center perfectly on time going to center and then you know taking the result from there you know like i said our game's such a process it's a process-based game with you're having outcomes and you can do everything right and you can be out and then you can do everything wrong in your process and you can still get a hit you know it's just it's such a weird game we're on we're on offense we don't have the ball and they're just chucking it at us right so uh you gotta you gotta you just gotta put yourself in a really good space and you gotta feel like you're just going out there competing at the end of the day and feeling like, you know, and yes, when situations do arise, you know, say a guy on second, nobody out, right?

1:22:58Now my thought process goes to, okay, I want to drive this guy in, but at the very least, I'm going to get him over the third base. So now I'm starting to lean towards the middle to right side of the field, you know, versus, okay, now a guy on third base, less than two outs, infield might be back. All right, I'm taking my shot here to put the ball play on any kind of strike and i want to get this run in you know those are those are things that when the situation calls for things like you have to be able to mold your game to the situation because it's not like it's nobody up nobody on nobody out or nobody on two outs right like you might take more of a shot with nobody on two outs to try to hit an extra base hit because now okay i'm at second base or i'm at third base i just hit a home run whatever it is you just scored a run versus, okay, guy on second base or guy on first base, nobody out.

1:23:54I'm trying to hit this hole right here, trying to get first and third. So those are just all different things that come up in your head. No, you guys think?

1:24:00Pat McAfee:I didn't know you do thinking over there. I thought big strong man walks into box. Big strong man walk into box. He designated hitter. Just go ahead and sweep. What does he do? nothing he designated hitter he just goes in there the amount of gamesmanship that's going into it is beautiful to hear i i really the more intel the better for me i was just completely enthralled by everything you're saying when do you know it's a pitch when do you know or when do you know it's a strike i'm sorry when do you know it's coming out of the hand because normally situation will tell you that maybe a strike is coming here and then as soon as it leaves the hand is when you know it's a strike like when do you know it's a hittable ball oh man that's a great question.

1:24:45I mean, you watch all the video, you watch all this, and you're trying to picture everything that comes into what's coming out of the guy's hand. And obviously, if you have experience off the guy previously, so you have a better idea of what the ball is going to be coming out of his hand. But, you know, yeah, it's pretty much coming right out of the hand. And you're trying to set yourself in a good, you're trying to set your sights in a good spot the way the ball is coming out. So that should be a strike. You know, a lot of guys have four or five pitches now. So it's not like, you know, I can just say that some two pitch guy, it's fastball slider.

1:25:23You know, most starters all got five pitches. So now you're just trying to really put yourself, you put your eyes in a really good spot out there. So when that ball does come out, you're recognizing you're on a fastball, and then you're able to recognize some off-speed and trying to limit your chase, trying to limit that spot to where your eyes could go telling you that could be a strike, but then all of a sudden it drops off the table, it's not a strike, and you're swinging in the dirt.

1:25:50Pat McAfee:Then you look like a ding-dong. We don't want to be looking like a... Yeah, you look like a ding-dong. We don't want to look like a ding-dong. First off, what we're trying to do, don't look like a ding-dong at the plate. Hit ding-dongs, but don't be a ding dong. Yes. Yeah, so don't look like one, don't be one. Definitely hit them. We want the ding dongs to be hit, but we don't want to be looking or being like it. Okay, tonight, 30 ,000 people for an intra-squad scrimmage. Connor has the last question for you. We appreciate you. Yeah, sure, Bo. We've seen the clips. I mean, some of the highlights that have been shown of you hitting, you know, dingers in the playoffs have been amazing.

1:26:31What is that setup like? What is the atmosphere like in Philly? We went there for WrestleMania, brother, when our tribal chief probably should have won the strap, but as neither here nor there. The casino being right next to the baseball stadium, that seems like a pretty diabolical setup just because win, probably good vibes, lose. There's some dangerous areas over there just in Philly as angry Philly people after a team loses. What is it like, and is that something that you guys kind of hang your hat on when playing at home that the fans are going to have your back? it really is uh i'll never forget it so 2022 uh we go to an eagles game and i think it was their home opener and we're all looking at each other like whoa this place is this place is an animal box right now these people are going wild and we're like this we i would love that playing this kind of atmosphere so then like we go on this like 10 games or we have a 10 game road trip we clinch the playoffs you know we're we play the wild card series inst louis and we go to atlanta we play the first two games there we've been on the road for like a freaking month and then we come back the citizens bank we step out there for you know they start calling our names and stuff it was like it felt like a football game i'm like holy shit this is awesome i'm like this it gives you goosebumps.

1:28:02You just don't expect that. And that's that addicting feeling. That's that itch that you have every single night when you go to sleep that you can't close your eyes because all you're looking forward to is getting back to that environment. And it's just addicting. It's so much fun. That's why I say it's the best version of baseball. You get the best fans out. You get the best environments out there. And And in Philly, I don't think anything can compare to where, you know, they're just, like I said, they're pouring everything they have into you. And if you're on the other team, good luck. I mean, I wouldn't want to hear some of the things that are being said to the outfielders or the bullpens.

1:28:47Like, I mean, I remember when I was out there as an opposing player and the things that I would hear with, you know, 25, 30, 40 ,000 people there, I can't imagine 45 just rocking a roll and ready for a postseason game, what they're going to be saying. But it's literally the best. And that's why I'm like, I'm itching. You know, I'm ready for Saturday. Friday, we're not going to be able to sleep.

1:29:13Pat McAfee:Why don't we hit a ding-dong tonight for the Johns? Why don't we hit a ding-dong tonight, okay? Hit a ding-dong tonight. We'll donate some money to a charity, okay? Well, you pick the charity. We'll donate some money. You hit a ding-dong tonight and have the Johns go crazy, okay? Let's do it. Let's do it then. Let's put a little bit more on the line too. Yeah, there we go. You said you guys were having a little bit, in the first time you did one of these, like, hey, boys, we need to take this thing seriously. How about for every dong that is hit tonight, we'll donate a certain amount of money.

1:29:39Pat McAfee:We'll figure out what that money is because we have no idea how many ding-dongs are going to be hit tonight. We'll certainly look into that to figure that whole thing out. Just know the boys though. Tell the boys we're on their side. We want tonight to be a big one. Ding-dong donations coming from us for you guys tonight and enjoy the rest of your run. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you guys. Love it. Thank you guys. You guys are the best. Have a good one, alright? Ding dong donations. Yep. Don't be a ding dong. Don't look like a ding dong. Hit them, though. Hit ding dongs. Hit a lot of the year, man.

1:30:13Pat McAfee:How many are going to happen at that thing? So many. 17. They're going to start feeding just meat pitches to them. They're going to have a whole segment of the game when they know about this, obviously, now. and then it's going to start throwing meatballs. Run the video on the Jumbotron. Don't know if you guys heard this earlier. Guys, don't tell Pat, but we're basically going to do a glorified BP right here. It's going to be hitting dinger after dinger. Need the crowd to react in a... Need you guys to have energy every time. Act as if it's not staged. There we go! A lot of surprises. We'll get them.

1:30:47What if they hit like 35 homers tonight?

1:30:50Pat McAfee:I did not put an number on it. Good move. Because I do not know what this is. 30 ,000 people showing up. That's great. I've never heard of that before. That's awesome. You know who else is doing that? Who? The Mariners. Are they? The Mariners are doing a, I just saw either a tweet about, yeah. Today's postseason scrimmage tweeted on October 1st by the Seattle Mariners Twitter account. I believe that is them. Yes, 738 ,000. Today's postseason scrimmage game just got a little more fun. Hall of Famer Ichiro will be patrolling right field for the home team. Oh, hell yeah. there's still time to snag a$10 ticket.

1:31:24Pat McAfee:The Mariners are also doing one of these. This is a good idea. I like that our teams are doing this. Yeah. Can we stream these? Got to be a platform to stream these at somewhere. Joining us now is a man who, I'll tell you what, I don't know if he's on his team or not, Ichiro's going to steal a fucking homer from this guy. Yeah, for sure. No questions asked tonight. This guy hits more ding-dongs than anybody else in the league. Plays catcher. Hits from both sides of the plate. That plate's never been more surrounded by greatness than whenever this man steps onto that diamond. We got a chance to chit-chat with him during the All-Star breakout at the Home Run Derby where he and his entire family stole the show.

1:32:00Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, they call him Big Dumper because he has a fat ass. That's from all the squatting, lifting, and the explosivity that this man has throughout his entire core. This is Kyle Rawley. Yeah! Dumper, what's up, dude? Hey, how we doing, guys? Hey, thank you for joining us. Mustache looks phenomenal. I think that's a very good look. I know you got a little scruff McGruff down here. Are you going to go with just mustache throughout the playoffs, or have we thought about an idea of how we're going to look yet? No, I got to clean it up a little bit. It's getting a little messy. So I might wait until a couple days from now to get it cleaned up before the game.

1:32:35Pat McAfee:Can you do a twisty doo-hoo on this? Can you get a mustache to do the twisty woo? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, put the wax in it. I can't. No, not yet. It's not quite there. Oh, but if we were to go on a run here, maybe by a World Series. Let's not think about that, though. Let's think about what's right in front of us. You guys have a scrimmage tonight that Ichiro is going to be in right field. Is that accurate? What are you guys expecting? We just talked to Schwarbo. I think you just heard us chit-chatting about it. They're going to have 30 ,000 people. They said that they're trying to match what the intensity could be or at least the emotions a little bit of what the team that they're going to be playing against has right now during their wildcard series.

1:33:14Pat McAfee:Is this similar for you guys, and what are you expecting tonight, Cal? yeah i mean i uh i mean i have no idea how many people are going to show up hopefully a lot uh you know it'll be really hard to match uh playoff atmosphere um you know but you know if we can it be great and um yeah looking forward to it east row out there not surprised you know that guy's that guy's uh here every day working out and so he'll be probably more ready than anybody else so Every dong you hit tonight, we'll donate. Okay, just like we did for Swarbo. We appreciate you taking it. Every ding-dong you hit tonight, we will donate.

1:33:51Pat McAfee:It's going to have to be captured, though. Oh, yeah. And it's going to have to be real pitches. You know, we don't need your dad out there pitching. Yeah, that was bull. We're not doing that entire thing. Let's talk about your team. Let's talk about the run. First time you guys have won the AL West since 2001. Obviously, it's special time in Seattle. A lot of people saying Cal Raleigh, big dumper, is the driver behind all of this. Do you feel the pressure? Do you feel the excitement? Like, how do you kind of view this special season that you have had in Seattle? Yeah, you know, we're really excited, obviously, you know, do something that has been done in 20-plus years in the city.

1:34:23So we're all really excited. But, you know, it's just a great opportunity ahead, you know. Looking forward to it. You know, really looking forward to getting to playing, you know, watching these wild card games, you know, gets you a little antsy and, you know, makes you want to get out there. So we're excited. We've got some work to do, and, you know, looking forward to that first series.

1:34:44Pat McAfee:Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, we mentioned Itro. Are there any other, you know, old-school legends that aren't playing anymore that you've kind of leaned on throughout your career? Maybe there's so many – I just know so many baseball guys, you know, they have these 15-, 20-year careers. They have unbelievable stories and unbelievable wisdom, I feel like, to give to you guys. Is there anyone you've leaned on over the years? Yeah, I mean, I think the one, you know, off the top of my head, Justin Turner. He's with the Cubs right now. He's had a 15-year career, and I got a chance to play with him last year, and he's been a real help to me in my career in his last year or so.

1:35:22He's such a smart guy, and those guys have so much knowledge about the game. They've been around for so long. They've seen so many things. We got Edgar Martinez on staff, Hall of Famer. Dan Wilson played 12 years behind the plate Our manager It always helps when you got guys like that Who have done it before And guys who have seen a lot of things

1:35:47Pat McAfee:Nobody's seen you in a long, long time, brother What you're doing for switch hitters Is obviously historic As you've seen all the stats Baseball's a game of a lot of stats You are a man that is becoming the top Of a lot of those stats How do the obliques feel? How do both sides of the plate feel? How does the lefty bat feel? How does the righty bat feel right now going into playoffs? How's Cal Raleigh seeing it? Yeah, everything's good. We had our first workout yesterday. Body feels good. You probably won't be feeling much on that first game. You can ask a lot of baseball players getting out there in front of that crowd.

1:36:23You've got 40-plus thousand waving towels and chanting. You'll be kind of floating around out there, which will be fun.

1:36:31Pat McAfee:Is it a pull or a pull? It's an oblique. What is the workout on both sides that you need to have? And if guys don't hit from both sides of the plate, what muscles do they have on one half of their body that are much stronger than the other? Like for you, what are you training? Is it a pull? What is the? Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a pull. I haven't really thought about it. It's just rotating, really. You know, it's a lot of rotating. A lot of core. a lot of med ball tosses a lot of caboose well that's different still need the boost need to put the caboose you need to be strong it's a long season you gotta be able to take some hits here and there make sure your body can handle it you gotta have a little extra padding back there now on that note you've had to squat every single pitch on the defensive side.

1:37:33AQ Shipley:Every single pitch.

1:37:34Pat McAfee:We're part of this thing. That's why the ass is the ass. We're part of this thing. You should do that all show. Well, I couldn't. That's why I just want to showcase how impressive it is. That was four right there, bodyweight squad. That's five. How many pitches are in these things? He's probably catching anywhere from 150 on a normal day. That's 150, let alone warm-ups. We're doing warm-ups in between. Dude, stop doing it. You're going to close. Coming down. Coming out, right? We're doing that with people that aren't there. I mean, this is this entire thing. And then you're still leading. One at bat right there.

1:38:05Pat McAfee:That's me. Yeah. Ball. Need a ball. Yeah. And then obviously you. Yep. There you go. Jeez. Wore out. Jeez, yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a fun game. Yeah, I don't know how you're in it. Oh, someone's coming down. It's a missed throw. Done. I don't have anything, you stupid idiot. Safe. There's a lot of that going on. What you've done hitting homers and doing all that has obviously been very commendable by a lot of people. That is something that I think is very difficult. For you, is this just new normal now? Like all offseason, I assume this is just what you've prepared for and what you've trained for.

1:38:46Pat McAfee:But there's a reason why nobody's been able to do it from the catcher position because of how much body, there's like so much on it. Pitchers, what, rest every four days because of how much they have going on. And it's like what you put your body through this year is a lot. I think what catchers put their bodies through are a lot on a regular basis. But now that you're so prolific offensively, has there been any conversations about what the future looks like for you or no, we're just, this is life. This is who I am. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, for me, it's, you know, you know, an everyday thing.

1:39:17So, you know, I'm going to be catching and, you know, we're focused on, you know, obviously the now, you know, and I mean, Later in careers, you see guys that can hit a little bit from the catching position. They'll start to work in at first base or DH. You look at a Buster Posey, Salvador Perez. Guys have had some time over there. Even Johnny Bench back in the day, he moved off a catcher and played some other positions just to give himself a few days. It's kind of part of the territory. But for now, I still feel strong, still feel good back there. I'm able to stay healthy and stay strong and competitive.

1:39:58So do it for as long as I can.

1:40:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, and you're part of it, you know. Like, catcher is very much in everything. So taking a step back, I assume, would be very weird for you, especially when my father was a catcher. My little brother was a catcher. My father's father was a catcher. Okay, so you're in it. You're in it. You're in it. But with how prolific you are offensively, I know with the conversation, I mean, with Shohei. They're talking about Shohei. like, ah, he shouldn't pit. He can throw one-on-one. He's throwing like, being that good offensively is all you need. And then the conversation with you is like, going to be tough to get Cal out from back behind a plate, whatever.

1:40:32Pat McAfee:It's like the guy loves it. And then Ty even said, first base is normally where catchers will head to, so they're still a part of, like, still got good gloves, still got good defense. You need you out there. Because DH is just naturally the thought. This guy could be a DH until he's 60. Think about the days where he doesn't have to squat 150 times. Certainly. And then he's just hitting it. That's like I couldn't even imagine thinking about it all. Now, let's chitchat a little bit about this magical run. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Cal, being in the middle of it, and obviously, you know, you guys still have a lot left in front of you and you're trying to win a World Series, but did you have, like, any chance to kind of sit back and embrace all that pressure and enjoy the moment knowing, like, hey, we're in the middle of a division race right now that you ultimately won, and then you're in a two-headed, you know, race to win MVP.

1:41:18Like, have you got to sit back yet a little bit and be like, Like, wow, I just had like one of the most impressive years in like the, especially for in the history of catching, but in the history of baseball as a whole. And then I also have to say after you guys clinch you, uh, you're owed to Tom Berenger and saying, you know, Hey, the only thing left to do is win the whole fucking thing. Awesome. Awesome. But have you got a chance to sit back and kind of just reflect on everything? Uh, no, I mean, that's a good question. I really haven't. And I guess, you know, last week, you know, clenching and then winning the division, you know, getting to kind of just sit back and take that all in and, you know, really let your guard down with the guys, you know, celebrating like that.

1:42:04That was I'd say that was the most fun moment. And you can kind of just look over the whole thing. And I was able to hit 60 on the night we won the division, which was was crazy. So it's just been it's been a crazy year. I mean, you know, I signed the extension right before the season started. And then all this happened. And then you throw in the All-Star Week, winning the derby with my dad and brother. You know, division race. You know, people start talking about you a little more with the home runs and all that. And, you know, you see yourself on TV a little more often than you probably want to.

1:42:39And, yeah. So it's just that ish.

1:42:44Pat McAfee:You know, it's very great. Crazy year. Well, it's been a fun year to follow for us. And the nickname being the nickname is obviously fantastic for the sports culture. But you've lived up to the billing, brother. You talked about that Home Run Derby. Your name was being talked about going into the Home Run Derby. And I think many a times the names that are hyped going into the derby don't end up winning. You showing up and doing it and then continuing your season the way you have. We all just think you're a dog, dude. That is literally what we all think. And I think it's a beautiful thing. Now, maybe renegotiation.

1:43:14Pat McAfee:You know, we just got a deal done before this season. I'm not going to – I know you guys got a lot of negotiation going on in baseball right around the corner with all of it, but I think there should be some incentives that have certainly been touched there. Now let's talk about looking ahead as a Brainiac player. Go ahead, AQ. I remember when I was in the NFL and we had a first-round bye in the playoffs, you started to prepare for both teams that upcoming week. With two potential opponents, do you guys take a peek at both of them or do you wait until you know exactly who you're playing? Yeah, we're here at the field right now, and obviously they've got the games on, and we're all watching.

1:43:51It's chatter throughout the whole thing. Cleveland, Detroit, we're watching, obviously, them closely. Once that's decided, we'll key in a little more closely on that one team. So, but for now, you know, I think it's just trying to stay sharp, you know, it's finding that right balance of, you know, making sure you get your rest, but also staying, you know, physically strong, staying kind of in shape. Now you're going to get out of shape, but you know what I mean? you got to get those normal reps and try to keep everything normal and as normal as it possibly can be for this week because, you know, we're going to be doing some scrimmages.

1:44:30Obviously not the real thing, but try to keep those reps as normal as possible. So we'll key in a little more, you know, later in this week. And for now, it's really more about the focuses on us.

1:44:42Pat McAfee:Well, good luck tonight against Itaro. He's going to rob your shit. Yeah, definitely. I can't wait to watch that. But the fastest recorded opening pitch, we just got that stat sent over by Zito. 94 miles an hour was Ichiro. In 2022, he threw the opening pitch in full uniform. That's Ichiro, baby. Do you remember that?

1:44:59AQ Shipley:Yeah. Didn't he? Is this – was it Ichiro beat up on the middle schoolers? Middle schoolers? Oh, I did see that. It was. The way you phrased that made me think something else. But, yeah, that's all right. So what was he?

1:45:10Pat McAfee:So what do you – I don't think I saw him. He was just hitting in like a high school game and just – Oh, high school. Yeah, just fucking ripping ropes to every part of the field. Like, picking where he was hitting it, right? Yeah. So, why isn't he on your guys? He was pitching, too. Yeah, he was pitching, too. That's right. So, you said he's in the building every single day. Is he just on the team? Is he not good enough? Put him on the 26, man, Cal. Yeah, so how's this work? Like, he'll pitch tonight against you, too? How's this going? And then, like, on a random Wednesday, you guys are just like, oh, let's go do some BP.

1:45:37Pat McAfee:And Ichiro's music hits, and he comes out in a full uniform, and it's like, it's not BP. It's actually Ichiro Day. And he pitches against you guys? he's around all the time you said basically yeah all the time i mean he's there all spring training he's there every home game that we have he's always stressed out full you know full gear got the pants the cleats everything he's uh i mean he's not messing around so he used to i mean he used to throw us live bp and um even in spring training or in the cage you ask ichi hey, can I get a little live BP action? He'd go in there and he'd just carve guys up.

1:46:17I know he's broken multiple in my bathroom before.

1:46:22And he takes it seriously. He's not messing around. He's trying to get you out in there. Obviously, it's a little different because he's behind the L screen, but he's letting it rip.

1:46:32Pat McAfee:That might be the secret weapon that's not so secret anymore. He's an asshole.

1:46:36AQ Shipley:What's that? I didn't like what he said about the Marlins doing his Hall of Fame speech. That was awesome. What did he say? Took a little jab.

1:46:42Pat McAfee:What was it, Ty, if you had to just? He basically said, like, you know, he thanked all the teams he played for, and then he was like, and, you know, I went down to Miami to end my career. He was like, before I got there, I didn't even know you guys had a baseball team. It was awesome. Yeah, but still shot us. Yeah, exactly. And he said he did learn, obviously. And everybody laughed. Yeah, big pop out of everybody but the Marlins fans. All right, Cal, we appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Yeah, always great seeing you guys. Thank you. Hey, ding-dong donations tonight for the center squad.

1:47:11Pat McAfee:We don't know what the price is yet. We'll let you know. We will certainly hope that the Mariners keep us updated on how many big balls this big dumper hit tonight. Why not all of them? You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Cal Rawley. Might win the MVP. He should, especially with how it's going now. What do you mean with how it's going now? Just with how important it is, what he's doing. How important the catcher is to get in baseball. We know. It's like the tight end All of a sudden it's coming back. It's having a resurgence. That's the perfect way to put it. Maybe almost like a tight end with a little nickel corner perhaps because he also has to catch the ball and he has to have a real arm, not like a noodle arm.

1:47:53We'll see. We'll see. That was rude. I don't know if I'd be doing this only up one game because, you know. But I get it. They lost last night. You got to do what you got to do. Sinatra came on shuffle this morning. I think Boston might claim Sinatra by the end of tonight. Don't look out, Yankees. Follow up on that, what does that mean? Frank Sinatra, just one of the goats. One of his big songs. What do they play? Yeah, the theme from New York, New York. Yeah, start spreading the news when the end is week.

1:48:21Pat McAfee:So why don't you say a little bit? Yeah, they said, start spreading the news, blah, blah, blah. I'm leaving today. People don't forget Aaron Judge. He put a speaker on his shoulder, and he bumped that, leaving Fenway Park when they were up 2-0 a few years ago. And then what happened? Scott is spreading the news. What happened? Sox won 3-2 in the series. Oh, whoa. I'm confident. I'm confident, and I should be. I watched 162, now 163, but I still feel as though Judge could do it. We'll see. You gotta win tonight. You gotta win tonight. I don't like the way these Yankees fans have, certainly. I haven't.

1:49:01I don't like Bruce pulling out the, we don't have Garrett Cole right now, but that's not the mentality we need going into tonight, Bruce, and you know that. This is shades of in July when they were popping gold bottles up at Fenway declaring us dead. I love it. Okay, alright, Bruce, I hope that's the case.

1:49:19Pat McAfee:Let's get back to the NFL. Obviously, we had an incredible weekend of ball as we look forward to week five. Let's go ahead and look back a little bit with A.Q. She's takeaway. A.Q. What are your takeaways from the last weekend of the NFL season? The first one is Tush. Tush Push Evolution. Oh! I like a little Tush Push Evolution by the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, they were taking on Vita Vea in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Vita Vea, Big Oos, he took advantage of Tush Push before. He stopped that thing. He stared Tush Push down and said, actually, Oos pushed back and stopped it in its entirety. Now they decided to run a couple gimmicks.

1:49:59Pat McAfee:I appreciate that, AQ. So do you, it appears. It's ironic that they did it against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Big Vita, and they go old school, 1930s. 19-30s. Give it to the Galloping Ghost and the Wing T and go sweep off the left side. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty sweet. Yeah. Wing T, Galloping Ghost. Yeah. Yeah. You did really well there. You did really well there. What else? Now, this looks a little different because you don't have the guys behind Jalen Hurts, but his footwork. Normally, when he's just under center, his feet are neutral. You can tell he is selling a quarterback sneak, but guess what?

1:50:28Look to the right. Quads to the right. Little diamond shape. Shuffle over to Goddard. Walk it right in. Oh, innovation.

1:50:36Pat McAfee:This is some innovative stuff. There was no tush to be pushed, but there was certainly a dive to be had. Not so fast, my friends. Underhand toss to Goddard. You got numbers over there. Let's go ahead and take advantage of it. Absolutely. And that's a really cool formation right there. You don't see it very often whenever they go quads with four to one side. Make a little diamond. Do you see that? It's a bunch with a guy behind, and they just got three blockers. You walk in the end zone. And A.J. Brown said, I can't take the scoop. Come on. That's a good way to get a touchdown. Good block by A.J.

1:51:05Brown on the backside, though. Oh, wow.

1:51:07Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Great effort. Oh, yeah. Great effort. A.J. Hawk, A.J. Brown. A.J.'s watching this. Can I be that guy? Yeah, exactly. I'm a big physical body. I can catch this and fall into the air. Yeah, you're right. Everybody wants that spot. Okay. Is there any others that we need to see, or is it just those two? No, we got a lot of meat. Oh. Oh. And here's what this means. Here's what this means is we've seen the way that offensive coordinators over the past couple of years have game plan tight ends that can't block. And so what you've seen over the years, you've seen McVay, you've seen Shanahan, you've seen all these creative guys put the tight end and they bluff and they put them on a linebacker because they know they can't win at the point of attack.

1:51:49Teams this year have said, forget it. You know what we're going to do? We're going to put a big O-line in it. We're going to go jumbo. We're going to get all the meat in there.

1:51:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, because there has certainly been a run here of D-line dominating games. You look at the Philadelphia Eagles, they have four number one picks on the D-line, and they were able to just cause absolute chaos for everybody. And if you can get home with four, then obviously you do some quick math. That's 14 eyes looking at the quarterback and everything else going on, and you can obviously swarm and tackle everything very well. Without having to bring extra pressure, you're sitting in what we like to call a great spot defensively. Echo the sentence?

1:52:25AQ Shipley:Absolutely. Four men rushes, everything.

1:52:27Pat McAfee:And on that note, if you're able to block those four guys, now the defense has to bring extra men. So whenever you bring somebody from, you know, watching in coverage into rushing, all of a sudden, what's that? Oh, it's more space on the backside there. Now, how do we protect that and know that we're going to be protected? Bring in another big, fat-ass offensive line. That's right. I like that they're doing it, especially with how athletic all these big guys have got. Yeah. Because there's a chance one of these guys can be set up to get the ball, especially with where they're lined up. I appreciate the protection.

1:52:55Pat McAfee:Now you're talking about Kansas City doing this for Patrick Mahomes. Seems like a smart idea. Yeah, we're going to look at this first play. Kansas City has Caliendo right there on the right side. Not Frank Caliendo. Caliendo is going to fake sell the power to the right. They're going to toss it back to Worthy. And now watch Big 66. Get out front. Take the rookie, Malachi Starks. He's the reason this is a home run run. I love that. Got Xavier Worthy back for them. So a lot of meat has become a trend. Obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers had Darnell Washington, who's 6 '7", 290 pounds, tight end out of Georgia playing tight end, but mostly just blocking everybody.

1:53:28Pat McAfee:There he is, number 80 on the left side. And what is your last takeaway here as we are coming up quickly on a hard out, A.Q. Shipley? Yeah, we got Steve Spagnuolo still bringing it. Let's take a look at... Boom! Boom!

1:53:43AQ Shipley:Boom! Boom! Boom! Five big booms. He's still bringing it. I love it. He's still bringing it. Boom! Boom! We're running out of time. All right, perfect. Let's get to Nick Bolton right here. He's the key. Look at this. There's a pressure rush. He's not part of this blitz, but the minute he sees the running back block, comes. Look at this pick.

1:54:02Pat McAfee:Boom! All right, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. Spags are still the Chiefs. Spags are still Spags. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Okay, you nailed it. All right. We really did well. Boom! We really did good there. We really nailed it. You nailed it. That's 100 % on me. Baseball talk lasted a lot longer than I thought it was going to last. Boy, did it. Because Schwarbo was good. Yeah. And Cal Raleigh, so many questions, especially with the conversation that's been going on around you and Aaron Judge and Cal Raleigh. Yeah. You framed that in a very nice way. Because I think you are a fan of Cal Raleigh the person.

1:54:35I am, big time. And I'm also a fan of Cal Raleigh the player, which is why when we were starting to do this, I wasn't liking like the, oh, no, I don't want to be the guy who basically says, fuck this guy. He doesn't deserve this because he does. He just doesn't deserve it more than Judge, in my humble opinion.

1:54:51Pat McAfee:And you love Aaron Judge. I do. It's his turn.

1:54:54AQ Shipley:Seems like it. Cows? You know, it gets to that conversation. Like last year, you know, with Lamar, he had like an MVP year, probably his best year as a pro. But Josh Allen, the moments, and it was kind of like, all right, you know, it's kind of this guy's turn. But if you cast a vote for either one of the guys, you probably felt good about your vote. I feel like it's the same with this race.

1:55:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, and it just – Aaron Judge already got robbed out of one MVP. I'm not thinking about that. I don't give a shit. He got to beat the Red Sox tonight. I don't give a fuck if he wins MVP or not. Okay, so Calumet is MVP. We understand that? If it means that the Yankees are going to advance. No, I'm just saying in general. Just at this moment. No, he's not. He's not. He's had a special season. No two questions about it. He's had a very special season. He's not the most valuable player. Judge is. But if it means Judge is going to win MVP and they get beat tonight, I don't give a fuck. What's another MVP?

1:55:44Who cares? Are the Sox hot right now, dude? Dude, the Sox have never been hotter. I see that hat. They got real hot real quick. This is 2004. Exactly. Damn near anniversary of this team. This is a World Series hat, but we actually came back against the Yankees when we were down 3-0. Something that they've never done. No one has ever done that other than the Red Sox. My bad. When it comes to Boston, it does feel as though this might be one of those magical years. It feels like they might have the juice this year.

1:56:16Pat McAfee:If the Yankees get eliminated before the postseason even starts. No, no, no. That can't happen. The Mets didn't even make. Mets didn't even make. More like Small Apple. Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today. Said primetime baseball. Yeah. I'm out of here. There's a chance. There's a chance. But they're not dead yet. huge game no you're not huge I mean this is a huge Ty is going to be devastated if the fucking Yankees get swept 2-0 to the fucking Red Sox in a wild card and kill them after what's it yes and no I will obviously be devastated that they lost if they lose though I believe that will put quite a bit of pressure on hey let's get Aaron Boone the fuck out of here whoa whoa what if they win we keep him what if he goes on a run then good earn that paycheck earn that paycheck Hey, that walk-off homer against Tim Wakefield was a long time ago.

1:57:19You can't live off that forever.

1:57:21Pat McAfee:AJ, did you know this is how they feel? I mean, he's been loud about it. Yeah. I was watching Crochet, the Red Sox pitcher last night. He was awesome. I love his delivery. I love his leg kick. I love his demeanor. I don't think you were beating that guy last night. How about Chapman? Well, they were beating that guy last night because the Yankees pitcher was much better. That was one of the stupidest things you've ever said. when he left the game, Max Fried, they were up 1-0. They were beating that guy. Either way. Doesn't matter. Either way. I get it, though. I get what you're saying, but you're wrong.

1:57:50You do. They were beating that guy. And then Boone decided to go to the bullpen, which has been their Achilles heel all year. And within a span of two minutes, they were losing. And you knew, oh, no, he set up a nice little lefty lane with the lineup here, too. we're going to have lefties going up against Aroldis Chapman, who's also lefty, and what happens? Right-handed guys start off, get a hit. Even one of our lefty guys who hits lefties well, Cody Bellinger, he gets a hit. Base is loaded. And then you get Stanton to strike out, and then what does he get? He gets a couple lefties to finish it off, just how fucking Alex Cora would have written it up if he could have in the most perfect situation.

1:58:34Pat McAfee:And that's what happened. Chapman threw 101, final pitch of the night. Just let it eat. Somebody threw a hundo on the 100th pitch. I don't remember who it was. 17th pitch. Yeah, Crochet. Yeah, Crochet threw his hardest pitch of the season, I think, on 17th.

1:58:48AQ Shipley:That's what AJ was talking about. You've got to let the athletes go. I believe Crochet, the stat I saw about him is he's the – I think it's something about he's the only starting pitcher to pitch all the way into the seventh and throw a pitch 100 miles an hour, like going that far and still having that velocity. He's a horrible. What a beast. This guy.

1:59:08Pat McAfee:Which, once again, is why, if you ask Yankees fans, maybe we do lose this one because this guy's really good. The next two, certainly in your guys' game. They have the advantage in the next two games, yes. What time's that game tonight? 6-0-8, which, what are we doing? What, it's just nobody wastes any time. Get there at 6-0-8. Make that a fucking 7-15 start time. Oh. Really? Yeah. You want to get a little bit more time? Well, yeah, because guess who's got to fucking put their kids down to sleep and miss the first three innings? Me. Sick of it. Okay? Especially imagine you come back down. Oh, it was a tough one, too, by the way.

1:59:49Pat McAfee:A lot of rocking, a lot of screaming, a lot of yelling. You come down. Come downstairs. Red Sox. Yeah, they're up 3-0. Yeah, I'd fucking rip my TV off the wall if that happened. Don't do that. We've still got a lot more innings. We've still got a lot of baseball left. Remember? I know. I know. Oh, my God, if the Yankees lose tonight, 2-0. No, I feel good about tonight. I do. I do. Who's on the call? Ravi. Okay. Yeah. Ravi, Eduardo Perez, and fucking Coney. Did we have Joe Buck on a call yesterday? We love Ravi, by the way. Yeah. Love Ravi. No, I'm surprised that they didn't have him do. I mean, I guess maybe travel for Monday night.

2:00:26It was too much of a turnaround.

2:00:28Pat McAfee:That would have been a young Joe Buck thing. Yes. Younger Joe Buck would have done it. Yeah. And everybody would have been mad, but he would have crushed it. For sure. He would have absolutely crushed it. Not everybody. People would have been mad. They should have had him do the Cubs game because his dad, obviously, was a legend for the Cardinals, and Cubs fans think that he just, like, hates them naturally. So that would have been a nice little. But also back-to-back check. Yeah, exactly. That was awesome. Sweet. Very sweet. Wrigley was a live issue. Yes, it was. That's what this baseball season does, this particular season.

2:00:56Pat McAfee:Yeah. All right, we spent a lot of time on baseball. I feel like we did our part. So much. Baseball is good to us. Hell, yeah. Baseball playoffs. But Derby was so sick. Baseball playoffs are good. And the baseball people were good to us. So we're very thankful for that. Remember, there was a little bit of a conversation. Hey, we want to go home run derby. Sorry, we won't have space. Who's we? The ESPN people say they don't have space. All right. We still want to go, though. So can we talk to the league? Let's talk to the league. What's the league say? You guys want to host the fucking thing? You want to announce the guy?

2:01:31Pat McAfee:Thank you. You want the commissioner and the two biggest players in the sport? Do you want to introduce the hitters? Do you want to host the press conference? Fuck, you want to play the game? That's literally, they were so, MLB people were so good to us. So we are so, so, so thankful for that. And also right now, baseball fucking great. So let's remember that. We need to keep it middle of the week. Yeah. Need to keep it middle of the week. And it will be, you know, like there will obviously be games on the weekend, but I do think they do a pretty good job of trying to make sure that these really high marquee matchups aren't going on on NFL Sundays.

2:02:08Pat McAfee:It's great for us. Yeah. It's great for us as sports people, you know? Yeah. Because even there is some middle-of-the-week football that will come up. Yeah. Plus, Maction had a run. Okay? Maction had a run. And I'm not saying it won't. Okay? I forgot. Today is the kickoff of the UFL free agent frenzy. Oh, yes! Oh, yes. Is that true? Yes, it is. The U-X-F-L. No.

2:03:02Pat McAfee:it's the UFL and I will say we had a UXFL conversation yesterday well I think UXFL better name we workshopped it yesterday and I'll tell you what the Ux football league certainly is something that I would love to get behind we didn't know a lot about their league we found out they had bloggers though didn't we one of the greatest tweets ever constructed one of the hardest things I've ever laughed at maybe in the last 10 years James, we'd like to let you know, thank you for your contributions to the Thunderdome. We laughed so hard. And as we got to the bottom, we said, we didn't even know people cared this much.

2:03:37Pat McAfee:We appreciated you, James. I just wanted to let you know that we appreciate you, James. But yeah, this is basically our show in a nutshell. This is a two-minute segment. This is a two-minute segment, and we never claimed to know. We never claimed to know. We actually said in there multiple times, oh, what do we know about it? And then we rattled off all the things that we know. is going to have a much better future. Mr. Rappoll. Oh, yeah, that's right. Mr. Rappoll. Of course. Right? From Bull. Rappolli. He and John Gruden said, we at the United Football League know we haven't done enough marketing, branding, and the fan experience to truly showcase our talented players, coaches, and high-quality football we bring to the field.

2:04:19Pat McAfee:I guarantee things will change in the future. I'm working on some ideas. I like that Rappole is thinking about it. He's always working on ideas. Hey, where are you thinking? Right here. Uh-huh. Rappole's thinking right here. Love that. This is it. Gruden's like, I'll tell you what, man. Guy's got fucking ideas and protein bars. And when you think about the junkless protein bar, that's good tasting protein. So if they're eating good protein, I got a good feeling they got good ideas for the UXFL coming up. And we'd like to let everybody know we hope it succeeds. Definitely.

2:04:56AQ Shipley:Well, we're pretty accurate with those things we were throwing out, to be fair.

2:05:01Pat McAfee:We would like somebody to counter a lot of them, and they will, I'm sure. and I want to let them know I will have a counter as well. I will have a few AJs going. That's what you actually – that's Rapelle. Exactly. Oh, Rapelle. So, AJ did mention right before he got on his house lost power like five minutes before. And that's Noble? I just heard him. Yeah. We're going to call him back. Our thing crashed right before we went live. This might be Rapelle. It could be. Hey, take out the weeds one at a time. One at a time. Listen, if nobody's talking about us, that's okay. If somebody's talking about us and only saying the bad things, that's not okay.

2:05:43Pat McAfee:Let's fucking kill their connection. Drop their graphics. It's not a bad idea. That would be this right here. I got ideas. I got ideas. I hope they do. We would like more opportunities for guys. I will say it's tough to watch, though. You guys got to figure that out. I got an idea. Okay. Ask Josh Allen if he wants to play in it after the football season. Boom. Well, the thing that really – I think when we quit on him, and I will say this, as former player, always want player empowerment. Always do. When you want to hold out, okay, quarterbacks, part of the problem of the league is how bad the quarterbacks are.

2:06:22Pat McAfee:When the quarterbacks say, we're holding out, we're not doing it, and it's like, fuck, we didn't even know you guys had another season coming on. Okay, the first thing we're hearing is that you guys are holding out from what? What are you holding out? Oh, you guys have another season coming up. Okay. The reason why your league stinks is because your quarterbacks stink. Okay. So now the quarterbacks are saying, we want paid more. And then we do a quick little research. We're like, is this? So if you want more, normally that would be, you would think that like they want more piece of the pie. There must be a big piece of the pie.

2:06:52Pat McAfee:We deserve our, turns out that pie doesn't. No, there's like a couple of crumbs on the bottom. They haven't even started putting the flour together. They haven't even bought the fucking dough to make the pie at all. So for me, that was when I was like, okay, I hate these guys. On that note, I can certainly come back around on the UXFL. We get some good ball. We get incredible fan bases, which we've seen a couple of them. Battlehawks. The Brahma team. The Brahma Bulls. DC Defenders. Great. Their fans are locked in. Yes. The Brahma team's in San Tone, right? Yeah, San Tone. St. Louis. Battlehawks.

2:07:30Pat McAfee:Great environment. Let's do this. Should put the X back in, but yeah, let's go do this. Now we go. And also, is Dwayne Johnson doing anything? We need to lean on him a little bit more.

2:07:40AQ Shipley:I don't think he cares. Just been on. You've got a great movie coming out this weekend. Smash the machine. I don't think so.

2:07:48Pat McAfee:We're talking maybe awards for that. Yeah, they are. Dude. Insane. And then now, obviously, he's playing a different character. I believe he is losing a bunch of weight. He lost like 70 pounds. And he said he's losing more. He wants to lose even more. But what he was for Mark in that smashing machine, he is gigantic. I remember watching and following along with everybody else, him going through the process of making that smashing machine, and the amount of, like, I think he, like, dislocated his elbow. Yeah. He gave his entire. Yes, he did. He committed his entire being to this, and they're saying, great, what, 15 minutes?

2:08:22Pat McAfee:Standing ovation. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know how much stock people put into the Rotten Tomatoes and shit like that. A lot. Certified Fresh. It's getting great reviews from critics. You want to talk about Oscars. This type of movie, I wouldn't say, is typically the one. But what The Rock is doing, in a couple of those early pictures from the set, he's kind of unrecognizable. The amount of prosthetics and the work the makeup department did to make him look like this guy. like the complete body transformation type thing because he's obviously huge, but he did. He clearly put on weight and muscle to do this.

2:09:00That's the kind of stuff that makes those Oscar voters be like, okay, well, this guy's very committed.

2:09:05Pat McAfee:And I know he's taken a lot of shit for a lot of his previous movies. Correct. So for him to come back with a certified fresh and also his commitment and 15-minute standing ovation probably meant more than you could ever imagine to a guy that conquered everything. Yeah, but deep down, he's the rock. Always going to be the rock. Has to be the rock. people find inspiration from the rock and Dwayne Johnson, how strong he is when everybody on earth is questioning you and saying terrible things about you. And obviously not everybody, but it feels like that at times, especially with how popular he's come political world starts getting after you.

2:09:36Pat McAfee:Right. Like it can get loud. I said for even the strongest of people. So for him to have that moment and have the amount of effort and say, yeah, I can still be the guy had to feel pretty good. I can't wait to watch. I'm a sports shit out of them on that note. Is it you XFL? Are we putting the X back on that? They've officially changed it, I believe. Well, Rapal. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's a good idea. Box and loaded. Ox F L. Ox F L. Ox F L. Banning. Ox F L. Banning. Ox F L. Banning. Ox F L. James, your tweet, unbelievable.

2:10:17Pat McAfee:Football. It is magical. A.J. Hawk will not be able to join us. He has lost all power at his house. It is a second time in a matter of hours that he's lost power over there. We hope he's okay. We hope the surrounding areas are okay as well, as we will miss you for the rest of this, A.J., especially with that fresh new haircut. Yeah, for sure. Got that low fade. The talk stables here at Boston Corner. Congrats to your Red Sox. Thank you. And at Ty Schmidt. Sorry about your Yankees. No, it's not serious. It isn't over yet. It feels like it, doesn't it? No, it doesn't. It kind of has felt like it for the last hour or two.

2:10:50Pat McAfee:Hasn't it kind of felt that way? A little bit. That's 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley, nine-year NFL vet Terry St. Butler. It's felt like it for like two hours. It feels like the Yankees are kind of just out of the playoffs.

2:11:01AQ Shipley:It's got to go back and forth. This is an all-time rivalry. It's early. It's a wild card game. It's not like later in the postseason. But no, it's one game series at this point. Exactly. I didn't realize that all three games were in New York. Did you know that? Yeah, the home team. It's Mickey Mouse, but yeah. What do you mean it's Mickey Mouse? Mickey Mouse, but now you're thinking you're lucky stars it is. Not necessarily. I just – I don't like that. That's just not the playoffs. What are we doing? Like one of these games should – tonight should be in Boston. They take one from you. You should have to go win in Boston.

2:11:35So what do they think, though?

2:11:36Pat McAfee:Just the three-game series, Padres flying to the Cubs, Cubs having to fly to San Diego, then having to fly back to Chicago, just can't do it in the middle of this three back-to-back day. probably and because yeah the not just them but in yeah and the you know the teams who get a bye start on saturday so you can't really because then you are kind it's it goes back to the college football thing where they maybe are at a little more of a disadvantage because then they're getting what 10 days off before they play so you want to move it as quickly as possible to get to the divisional round i don't know i just it's just weird it's the playoffs i that it should be split between you know it's a multiple game series game should be played at each stadium well the yankees fans are obviously going to try to make it as hell as possible for the Boston Red Sox.

2:12:16Pat McAfee:They travel in there tonight at 6.08 and try to sweep the Yankees and eliminate them from the entire postseason, which will certainly draw a very, very relaxed reaction from all Yankees fans, certainly with how this year has gone and how previous years have gone for the New York Yankees. Let's pivot to the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, every week we get a chance to find out who are the best teams. Not just by watching every single week. It's hard to project who's the best team, but not just by learning each week whenever we're talking about all the storylines, but having a focus on a particular group on an offense that is basically an indicator on whether or not the team's going to be shit or not.

2:12:57Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go into the trenches with AQ Shipley's top five performing offensive lines from week four. Yay, AQ! Thank you. This is very important to teams. If you're on here, it means your team's probably going to be good this year. Congratulations. Who's number five performing offensive line from week four. Number five is the Denver Broncos. Two and two this year. Let me start with saying this. This might be their debut in the history of In the Trenches. They have not been on it at all. The reason being J.K. Dobbins, 100 yards rushing this week. First time Denver Broncos rusher in over 30 games.

2:13:33Pat McAfee:Wow, that's a long time. Let's take a look at it. Let's watch Big Garrett Bowles as he pulls around the left right here. Let's take a look at him. Let's look at Cortland Sutton on the edge right here. Peel back. Boom! Put him down. Look at Cortland Sutton. If we can rewind this, Cortland Sutton, wide receiver, on a linebacker. Runs his ass off the screen, and you'll see him finish on the sideline. Pancake on top of him. Well, Sutton had a pancake, then we had a blindside peel back. Peel back, shoulder back on him. Boom! Put his ass down. Wow, physical group. Boy, is this guy with the dreads still on this team?

2:14:06Pat McAfee:Oh yeah, Quinn Miners. Quinn Miners, yeah. That's him at right court. Love him. Dog. Love everything about him. They wanted to invest in the offensive line. Last time, before Sean Payton took the job, he understood that the offensive line was not great in Denver, and he can't be great if you don't have a great offensive line. You're saying they found it, it feels like. Their two tackles have played phenomenal this year. Lowest pressure rate amongst tackles. Garrett Bowles and Mike McGlinchey, who they paid a ton of money in to bring him over from San Francisco. They're very good up front. Congratulations, sir, Broncos.

2:14:33Pat McAfee:This is good news for your team. Yep. You're 2-2. Obviously, you're not perfect. You're a flawed team, as every team is, except for the Eagles and the Bills at this point. but the Eagles got an issue going on in there. And then the Bills, this might be their year. But if your offensive line is being featured as one of the best offensive lines in all of football, what our research has shown us is that your team's going to be good. Now, on that note, one of the teams that was on this a lot and then ended up being bad is, I believe, this number four team. The Atlanta Falcons. Remember two years ago?

2:15:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, they were on here all the time. They were on here early. Like, these guys are so good. These guys are geniuses. Look at this scheme. Coach got his ass fucking fired. They're doing a fool. They were not good. I mean, it was. Yeah. So the only outlier from this entire segment for the last few years of your team being good and the offensive line being featured on here, the only non-existent situation, the Atlanta Falcons from a couple years ago. We're not going to hold that against them here from 2025. No. Yeah, we're also not going to play analytics and say that their quarterback wasn't Desmond Ritter either.

2:15:36Let's start there. Oh, geez! I mean, let's just start there. But the fact is, they are and have been very good up front, and they still are. Bijan is playing out of his mind. Their offensive line is playing out of their mind. They're missing the right tackle, Kayla McGarry, due to injury. Let's watch this game. We're going to send Charlie Werner back across the formation. Watch this over-the-top ball handling, bend back. Werner, and look at Elijah Wilkinson, seal the edge. Look at this freaking play. This is unbelievable. They got that guy free on purpose, you're saying? the guy that was always tackling.

2:16:08Yeah, because Charlie Werner's coming, bluffing around him. Get around. Don't block him because all we need you to do is get the edge. We are leaving somebody unblocked to get to the edge. That's smart.

2:16:18Pat McAfee:That's having a lot of confidence. Who's the running back there? Algier. Algier's going to be able to break the tackle in the backfield there and let the guy get through. And I feel like he played that very well, that defensive end.

2:16:28AQ Shipley:Yeah, that's Von Miller, I believe. A little longer than the tooth. Whoa! What the hell? I mean, look, this is why backers get paid the big bucks to make guys miss one-on-one in open space. But, yeah, I'm sure Vaughn wants that play back.

2:16:41Pat McAfee:Well, congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons. Your offensive line is still around. Now, to the Atlanta Falcons fans that we've said that to before when you were featured on here and your team inevitably was absolutely shite, we'd like to say this time it's different. They're trending up. Penix is a guy. Penix is a guy from week to week. We've got to really base that on who he's playing and how he shows up because against Carolina, didn't show up. Worst game. Worst game. But the two games they've won, he's looked fantastic. He threw some deep balls in this game. Yeah. He was awesome. Okay, let's go to the next.

2:17:08Pat McAfee:Who's the number three offensive line out of week four? The Jacksonville Jaguars. Whoa. Wow. Three and one, boys. I don't know if I like that. Keep your name out of his fucking mouth. Thank you. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You better watch out when you're speaking that certain way to Liam Cohen. But let's take a look at this group. They're really good. They're not just. What's this guy's deal? You better. Yeah, you're right. You better. Can we put that tail of the tape up? I don't like that we were a part of the problem. Did we fix it first before we put the tail of tape on? We better have it.

2:17:40We did it. He's 6 '2".

2:17:42Pat McAfee:What the hell? He is 6 '2". I'm sick of it. And remember, Liam's scrappy. Always has been, always has been. Not to Coach Sala isn't, but Liam's not going to go down without a dog fight for sure. That's Liam Cohen football. And I like that there was a little bit of a dust-up out there between Liam Cohen and Robert Sala. But I think Liam Cohen does have the mentality of a dog. and I think his players have the same exact mentality. They got a team brewing down there in Duval. And I personally, as Indianapolis Colts fan, don't love him. He is 6 '2". That's him from college. What do you say? Come on.

2:18:18Pat McAfee:That's actually him. That's him. That's him. Quarterback. Number 12. He went to LaSalle Academy. You know that place? Of course. And then guess where he went to college? Where did he go to college? UMass Amherst, baby. Go Minute Man. Yeah, and he's from Rhode Island there. It's a small little time. Think about how many people have said you're never going to make it out of here. You're never going to make it out of here. And Liam said, wait until I'm 6 '2". What's that? Victor Cruz was quarterback. Yeah. Victor Cruz was there? That was his quarterback. Oh, my God. They were salsa. They were doing the entire thing.

2:18:46It all makes sense.

2:18:47Pat McAfee:We remember this all. What we'd like to let Liam know is we appreciate the way you handled that situation. And I don't think any of us knew Salah was 6 '4". If you knew that in that moment, it takes a lot of gut sack, dude, just to be like, Actually, yeah, I'm going to fight that guy. Yeah, because Salah was ready for war instantly. Kyle Shanahan said he's a nice guy, but every once in a while, I guess you've got to go. Yeah, I don't think Salah's a guy I'm picking. Liam Cohen said, it's fucking my name. I'm out of Rhode Island. Exactly. You think this guy's just going to run his mouth? His team has seemingly taken his identity, though.

2:19:21Pat McAfee:Dogs everywhere across Jacksonville. You like their offensive line? I don't love that as an Indianapolis Colts fan and season ticket holder. I love their offensive line. We'll start with my guy, Hainsey, from the shipyard, who I train all offseason. Okay. That makes a lot of the debt. No, that makes a lot of the debt. Go to the second team. Let the clip run. Let the clip run as he gets to the future Hall of Fame linebacker, Fred Warner. Chase his ass down. Put him on the ground. Cut back behind. That's big time. Out leveraged, out in space, getting to him. That's big time. Winning record down there in Jacksonville.

2:19:52Pat McAfee:Is it because the offensive line? Is that what you're saying here? ETN's been dancing. I haven't seen him run a lot. Yeah, I think it's everybody. The ETN's towards the top of the league in rushing performances every single week, and it starts with their offensive line, but it starts with Liam Cohen understanding the run game is just as important as the balls down the field. What are you out-shitting, bub? Oh, that last one. Oh, my. Damn. That looked like a double punch to the jaw. They're playing very physical. Look at 55. Oh, my God. Got a little knee. Yeah, he hurt his knee. I don't know how these big guys run down the field, have so many awkward shots and not hurt themselves.

2:20:27Pat McAfee:how quickly guys are able to get up. We said that about Caden Proctor. Caden Proctor, with how large he is. What was it, 370? 6 '7", 365. He's huge. Something like that. Did you see how smoothly he got up? Yeah, he's unbelievable. Just like smooth. It wasn't like it was no pain. There was no struggle with how big he is. Just smoothly got up, smoothly caught it. It's like these guys are incredible athletes. Incredible athletes. I'm glad I got out at the time that I did because they just keep getting bigger, stronger, faster. Whip your Hall of Famer. That's right. Western Pennsylvania, interscholastic, athletic league, basketball, hall of famer, AQ Shipley.

2:21:00Pat McAfee:He should have maybe been out there at tackle. They always had him at center and guard and then on the wedge of kickoff. Might have should have been out there dancing with those quick feet out there at left tackle. I also want no part of that. I want no part of being out there at tackle. What, because those little baby arms? No, because Daniil Hunter's sitting across from me. I don't want that. And I'm telling you, the worst anxiety I ever had my entire life was whenever I was playing at guard and they just put Julius Peppers, James Harrison, Chandler Jones over me every single week. There's a little bit of an experience of a tackle.

2:21:32Pat McAfee:I felt it. I felt it. I held my own, and I fought. Yeah, you did. I fought. You fought. You certainly did. 12 years of fighting. Yeah, you did. Two-ball champions. Two-ball champions. Who's the number two offensive line performing of week four? Yeah, let's go back to the Buffalo Bills. Love that. Playing at a high level, and let's start with David Edwards on this play. Let's look at the left guard here. Let's watch him lift another human off the ground and throw him. He almost hurts Deion Dawkins. Look at this. Just throws him. Just throws him. And let's look at the backside right tackle filling in for Spencer Brown, Ryan DeMarc.

2:22:05Let's watch him. Great pad level. Get underneath him. Drive your feet. Bury him. Finish over the top of him.

2:22:10Pat McAfee:So the Bills are – it feels like everybody we're watching kind of a nasty – is the nastiness coming back to offensive linemen? It better be because I've had enough of the finesse shit. I've had enough of it. There's been a lot of that though, hasn't there? There has been a lot of finesse. But I think now you're starting to see the jumbo packages, the big formations, and guys running off the ball trying to finish guys again. Yeah, and you're spotlighting it too on X. Guys know that if you get a couple good blindsides in, AQ will put it over and J.J. Wong will be pissed off about it. Oh, yeah. Number one.

2:22:38Pat McAfee:You did win on that. Number one, performing offensive line. The Detroit Lions. Wow, they're back. All the way back. They're back. The Detroit Lions are all the way back. They look so good. And when you watch Penn A's soul, not on this play, but all game long, just beating the hell out of people. But let's watch this scheme right here. Really good. Right side's going to kick out. Left side, we're going to call this a slice technique. Left guard's going to block out on the three-tech. We're going to slice Taylor Decker behind. Get up on a line. Look at that fucking hole. Can you guys run through that hole?

2:23:09They're back, yes. I'm sure that's a big, gaping hole.

2:23:14Pat McAfee:We saw a lot of that from Detroit every year's pass, but we know with the retirement of Frank Ragnow and the cutting of... Zeitler. And also of Skip. And the loss of Ben Johnson, who we now know is like a drill instructor. We didn't know if the offensive line was ever going to be what it was in the past. It feels like you're saying, don't worry about it. They are back to who they have always been. Yeah, we highlighted last week how good Cleveland's defense is. This week, this unit held them to zero sacks and ran for over 100 yards. Gibbs had an electric day. Montgomery got shut out a little bit.

2:23:45They knew he was getting the ball when he was in. But up front, they beat the shit out of this unit.

2:23:49Pat McAfee:D-Bot, think about MCDC talking about the Cleveland Browns defense. They're calling it historic, man. They're saying you can't out-tough this team, man. They're saying, think about all that he could have drawn from for this particular performance. You said the Browns had zero sacks? Zero sacks.

2:24:03AQ Shipley:Yeah, I mean, coming in – Abnormal. Beating up – because it's two back-to-back AFC North teams who's known to be tough, Ravens, and then now the Cleveland Browns. And on Gibbs' touchdown run, like the way they just moved, I think Mason Graham was in – like the whole right side of the offensive line was just bully ball. You love that. That should always be the basis of this Detroit Lions offense and they're back to who they were.

2:24:25Pat McAfee:I love that the Lions are tough again. That's MCDC. Congrats to the top five in the trenches. Congrats. Top five performing offensive lines out of week four. Number one, Detroit Lions. We saw maybe a friend choice there. Is that what you guys heard in the middle of that? Yeah. Hey, this guy sleeps in my house in the offseason. See, this first step he has is called the AQ shuffle. If you see, we coach him up on that. You put your arms in real close because you don't have long arms. You don't need them. It's actually kind of a benefit whenever you're trying to get through some space. And then you get out there and then he dumps the guy.

2:24:54Hey, you guys know who has the fourth lowest pressure rate among all offensive linemen in the NFL right now? Robert Hainsey. Bang!

2:25:01Pat McAfee:Let's go! Who's giving those grades? Shipyard LLC? It's not me. It's not me. It's the only grades I want to look at. Is it PFF grades? I think it's ESPN's pressure rates. Well, which one matters more? Because I heard a legend, a Hall of Famer speaking about grades. Here's Coach Steve Spagnuolo. What grades are you using? That's what everybody uses. The only thing, you know, Chris Collinsworth, I think he's a good dude. Good dude. He's involved in that company. I just don't know how you put a grade on somebody when you don't know actually what their assignment was or what they were being told. So I don't know.

2:25:37It's like that. From our standpoint, I thought Chris in this particular game had a real big effect on the game. they obviously found ways to double him whether it was two linemen the full excuse me the running back at times was chipping inside which you don't see a lot because that was the chris jones effect a number of times that he didn't get there but i think he forced a quick quick throw step up so you know from my standpoint i don't remember what chris's actual grade was um but i know that at the end of the game i thought the guys up front chris included had a big effect on the way things went You mentioned PFF and they don't know the place.

2:26:15If I'm not mistaken, it was Mike Zimmer a couple years ago when he coached the Vikings and made that same point.

2:26:20AQ Shipley:How would stock do coaches when they're looking at PFF? Well, I will say this. There's a lot of stuff that PFF puts out that's valuable and useful. My only thing, I think a lot of coaches feel the same way. Chris and I have talked about it. We've laughed about it. And I think their guys do a really good job. And they see, listen, they can be, but I just think there's a margin of error when you don't know exactly what the player was told. It may look like he's made a mistake or a mental error, but it might have been exactly what they told him. So I think that there's a, I don't know, I took a stat class a long time ago, and there's a name for that, you know, whatever.

2:26:59There's a margin of error. That's the only thing I can think of right now. But listen, we, I mean, we get paid to grade our guys and coach our guys and evaluate them. So we're not using that for that. And we're going to, as far as other players and whether we use the grades on other players, that has to come from our eye and watching the tape.

2:27:18Pat McAfee:We can't be just believing what PFF's saying for guys to come on our actual team. If you guys are drafting a fantasy football team, for sure. And he also said in there, complimentary, there's things in there that are good. There's valuable things that are coming from PFF. But, man, I'm the defensive coordinator, and I've seen the grade that somebody's given, and I've told the guy specifically not to do that. and he takes a hit on his BFF grade. And now publicly, people think this guy is an absolute doofus because BFF has become like a mad rating and BFF has become like this is what these people actually are.

2:27:51Pat McAfee:I have been pissed off about a mad rating in the past. They had me at like a 70-something. My arm rating was like very low. My strength, my tackling. I'm like, you motherfuckers don't know ball. I got people playing this game that I'm friends with. They're calling me a bitch. I would take that out. I would throw a ball better than my tackle. I got tackles. I got to throw it. Like, what do we, you don't know what this actually is. And then obviously as you get older, your rating goes up and everything. But there's people that judge players entirely off of the rating they see on Sunday Night Football whenever they're introduced.

2:28:18Pat McAfee:This person is ranked 68th out of 72 options right here with PFF. Or the Madden rating is out. Man, this guy fucking stinks. Every time he's on my team, there's something bad happening. Or if somebody's really good on Madden, this guy all pro. Yes. This guy on Madden is an all pro. it's like there's certainly the human element that kind of gets missed in it all, but there has to be some sort of grading that we know that baseline somewhere. So it's like PFF serves, I think, a vital part of the entire thing, of the fan base, and same with Madden ratings. But we can't be at the point where we just blindly follow them, which is what Spags, I think, was saying teams can't do as well.

2:28:56AQ Shipley:It plays a great role. I love what PFF does, and it's a tool that you can use with, especially if you're in the building or whatever, when you're watching film and you're seeing what you see with your eyes. And if a guy's ranked 68 out of 72, he's probably not like a top 10 guy. It's not to say that he's one of the worst guys in the league. So it's definitely a tool to use, especially when you're preparing for a team on a week-to-week basis. If I'm a DB and if PFF is telling me, hey, one of the things I love about it is the quarterback heat map, where quarterbacks like to go with the ball. We see it a lot with the next-gen stats after the game, their kind of hit chart.

2:29:31AQ Shipley:So definitely tools to use, but I love what Spag said. Like, you can't know. We say it up here. We're doing it in the trenches or everything to be. We're only going off our personal experience, but we don't know what adjustments are being made between series. Hey, we're going to play cover four this way if A.J. Brown is in the slot as opposed to if it's Devontae Smith. So it's just so many different things. These guys are in the building for hours on hours coming up with game plans, coaches, and players. So it's tough. But I do like what PFF does. But, yeah, Sunday night football getting intro.

2:29:58AQ Shipley:And then, shit, I've been on free agent visits. And, you know, PFF, agents tell you, hey, well, your grade is this or they got you here. And a lot of those people who don't know ball like that but can be in a decision-making position, whether it's ownership level or front office, that's the easiest thing to look at. PFF, they watch every play. Collinsworth, he's calling. He knows what he's talking about. So, yeah, it's give and take there.

2:30:19Pat McAfee:Well, and also people that are in decision-making roles, kids play Madden. Yeah. For sure. And I love this guy, Madden. He's so good. He's so cool. Mad Dummy. Yeah, this dude's going Mad Dummy on Madden. And for us, potentially, in the stadium, if you give him an opportunity, it's crazy how the world works. But the football people, I think they appreciate what the PFF thing does because it provides a lot of information that maybe in the past you had to take hours and hours and hours and hours to find. But you can't just blindly follow. J.J. Watt's tweet was, players and coaches all say the same thing.

2:30:54Pat McAfee:Yet we still plaster these grades and rankings on national broadcasts and all over social media. PFF has some very useful tools for statistical breakdowns, film study assistance, et cetera. The player grading system is the major issue. And I think the reason why players all feel this way is because we feel like we've all been misrepresented by these grades and people that we have run into in our real lives have thought that that was the right thing strictly because of it. So you're going to get a different opinion from players than you're going to get with everything else.

2:31:24AQ Shipley:On the flip side, just like with everything else, when somebody shows me, hey, I had a 92 rating on PFF this week. Love it. Hell yeah. Retweet. Hell yeah. Appreciate your PFF. So, yeah, you take it to go with the bat.

2:31:35Pat McAfee:I was the PFF all-decade punter. You were. Congratulations. Still on that sweatshirt. Love it. Love it. Honored to do it. Well, honored to do it. I was Madden's highest-rated punter and also highest-rated player on the Colts, I believe, for my final two seasons, 94-93. I'll tell you what, life was a lot better whenever those ratings were happening. my friends that are playing football or drafting a team or playing Madden or whatever it is, all of a sudden it's like, man, I'm fucking happy you're on the team instead of that lump that you were. You can run some fakes now. You can run a little bit.

2:32:03Pat McAfee:It's like, yeah. Yeah, this is good. Thank you, Madden, for doing that. But that's crazy the amount of power. Oh, yeah. That that has. Why don't you guys come up with a rating system? Yeah, come on, boys. Why don't you guys do that? Why don't you watch every play? I mean, I will say to echo what JJ said, it is phenomenal. The stuff you can pull, like you can literally filter things for film study, and you can go on there and say, give me all two-by-two trick plays out of the AFC North, and it'll pull every play within seconds. Within seconds. Good AI. Give me every blitz play, and it'll literally, any time there's five guys or more rushing, boom, it pulls it right there for the whole season.

2:32:39You can get a bunch of stuff.

2:32:40Pat McAfee:There's just some context missing potentially whenever you're putting numbers on people, whenever you're assigning numbers to what people's worth are to society. Like you said, Sunday night football, I think, is the biggest issue because we see how big those are, and a lot of just casual football fans are watching those, and you're never going to double-check. It's like you see the player introductions, and you see a guy 68th out of 72nd. It's like, my starting left tackle fucking sucks. What's this about? And then it just like – Let it make one mistake. Yeah, and there's not one person saying that.

2:33:12There's a million people saying that or 100 ,000 people saying that. And like you said, if you're going into a free agent, you're going somewhere, it's like, well, according to PFF, you're one of the worst players in the league position. So what are we doing?

2:33:26Pat McAfee:Listen to this. Offensive lineman, not a lot of people know, right? I mentioned your name to my wife. And my wife said, he was the guy on Sunday Night Football that was 72 out of 70. Yeah. That guy sucks. And I asked my kid. Listen, my kid plays mad and does the whole thing. He mentioned your rating on there, but he said, you're 58 on Madden. I'm trying, man. I like you. I like you. But everybody around me says, this guy sucks, dude. It's a wild time to be alive. We have so many analytics. We have so much data. We have so many stats. It feels like we're getting better with them. Because there was a point there where every coach was getting all these data and analytics.

2:34:07Pat McAfee:Before there was a data and analytics team, basically, in every single building. They were like, we got all these stats. What the fuck are we doing? What does that mean? No. Now there's been an entire system created for these stats. The go, no-go thing is now on the screen for everybody. I mean, we're in a wild time. We all know a lot. We all know a lot. Maybe too much. And is there context needed for a lot of these things? Always. Always. That is life. How about some context on a weekend that it's about to be for ball? Thursday night, huge NFC West game. Rams, Niners. Who's playing quarterback for the Niners?

2:34:41Pat McAfee:It's a short week. We shall see. We assume it'll be Brock Purdy out there yet again. And then Matthew Stafford, fresh out of an incredible conversation with us, which we appreciate him stopping by yesterday. And also, whoever drew the photo in the background of me with my long hair, I appreciate you doing that. That's a huge game. Maybe the game's best wide receiver playing over there in whose house? Rams high. Let's go over to Hammer. Dodd. Dodd. AP Tone, what a start to the next weekend, a ball. We got Rams and Niners on Thursday. Let's go. We should be looking forward to this weekend. Yeah, it is a great start to the weekend.

2:35:19Niners at Rams, a NFC West division matchup. And we talked about it this week. It might be one of the best divisions in football. So an absolute huge matchup to start this week. Star power everywhere. Okay? And then I've heard a lot of stuff, Pat. I've heard a lot of people saying that this is a shite slate of football. this weekend. Coming off of what we had last weekend with the four top 25 matchups in college football. You know, five other top 25 teams on the road in tough environments. Last weekend was an unbelievable weekend of football. You know, you had the 9.30 a.m. game and then just led through it.

2:35:59An incredible day of football that ended in a 40-40 tie. Last week was unbelievable. So people, you know, coming off that weekend, they were saying like, maybe this weekend isn't as good of a slate. When you look at the NFL slate, there's a row of games. Say you don't like backup quarterbacks going up against each other, so you're not going to love Vikings and Browns. And then Houston has been shite, and Baltimore's missing their quarterback. The Raiders aren't great, and they're huge dogs to the Colts. Giants and Saints is a huge game.

2:36:36Pat McAfee:I like that. Dolphins and Panthers is a great matchup, and Titans and Cards is a really good matchup. So people are saying it's a shite slate. And then when you look at the college games, there's only two top 25 games going against each other. One of them was a 10-point spread, and then the other one is four-and-a-half Canes at Florida State, who just lost against Virginia. So there's a lot of complaining. But I want to be positive, Pat, because I'm positive. and we went through so many months of absolute shit. There you go. That's right. Thank you, Carl. It's good that we're going back to the offseason.

2:37:11You're right. We cannot be complaining about these weeks yet. Okay, let me – this basically same thing happened last year in college football this week because there was all these great games, and then everyone was like, oh, this is going to be a shit week. Let me tell you what happened last year in college football this week. Three unranked teams beat top ten teams. Ten laws. Four ranked teams in total lost to unranked teams. So it's these weeks like this where you have no idea, where you think it's going to be a shit week where just absolute chaos happens. Last year, obviously, Vandy beat Bama.

2:37:46Arkansas beat Tennessee. USC lost to Minnesota. That Miami-Cow game was this week last year. There was a lot of good football. And then there are some good NFL games this weekend. Denver going to Philly. That's fun. That's a great game. I mean, people thought people were very high in the Broncos. They just got a huge win. Phillies 4-0. That's a very fun one. Bucs at Seahawks. That's a great measuring tape game. Bucs, you know, four. They've played four games, three and one. Three of those they had to come back on the last play of the games. Well, we all know Seahawks are a great football team.

2:38:17And then right after that, commanders at Chargers. Yes, Chargers just lost to the Giants. Commanders just went down. The Falcons had lost. But the commanders are getting their quarterback back. And that was just a hiccup last week for the Chargers. They lost to Jackson Dart and Moxie. So, you know what? There is a lot of good football this week. Even though people are saying it's not great, Sunday night could be a banger. Patriots are looking hot. Monday night could be a banger. Okay? So, it's way too early in the season for people to be calling weeks shit weeks.

2:38:45Pat McAfee:Jacksonville's getting Monday night football game? Yeah. Wow. Congrats to them. 3-1, baby. Congrats to them. This really might go on. That is because they thought about it in January. Yeah. Oh, it was January? No, it was January. Oh, okay. And it's happening here. In September. And now. It's going to last. No, no, no. It's October 1st now. Oh, wow. It's going to go on again in October. And then. It's going to last forever. One more time from the top. We had a month change. Yeah, we did. Let's get a clean one. Let me fucking run this back real quick. Listen, this is what we envisioned in January.

2:39:33It happened in September. It's going to happen in October. It's going to last forever.

2:39:43Pat McAfee:Here we go. Jags. Jags. Jags. Jags. Jags. Jags. The Jags are a team that I think everybody would rally behind if they were good. You know? Just like good for you guys. I think everybody in sports would drop a good for you guys. That owner, obviously great promo. Yeah. Great mustache. Yes. He has tried his fucking best with that team. I don't know how he is the owner of other teams that he owns. With the Jags, though, he has – you want a city? I'll build your fucking – All it. I'll build whatever you need. I will try my best for us to win. Two pulls, who cares? This will do that. We'll fucking – new stadium.

2:40:19Pat McAfee:Okay, you want me to build a new hotel? You got it. Whatever the fuck. He was – How do we do this? If they have found it with Stoner and Liam Cohen, that would be crazy. They win a Monday night football game against the Kansas City Chiefs. That would be a huge deal for them down there, man.

2:40:36AQ Shipley:That would be a big deal. They got the pieces. Offense, defense, and special team, they got the pieces.

2:40:40Pat McAfee:And then Patriots-Bills, same thing on Sunday night football. That's a huge potential win for the Patriots. Yeah, potential win. Now, I'm saying you're taking on a very good Bills team, but if the Patriots are winning that game, all of a sudden this, wait a minute, is our window now? with Drake May, as opposed to in the future, because Josh Allen's window is clearly wide open right now up there in Buffalo. That's the thing. Even this year, it's just more so, hey, let's be near Buffalo's level. We don't have to go into Buffalo and win on Sunday night, but if we go up on primetime and we lose 30-15 or 30-13 and it doesn't look good, then the whole entire framing of the season changes just because Buffalo will be that much better.

2:41:26But hopefully, you never know. Rivalry jerseys for the Bills, I believe. Don't love that.

2:41:30Pat McAfee:That's bad news for the Patriots, especially if the Bills ones are sweet. Do we remember if they look sweet or not? They're so sick. Yeah. The rivalry ones feel like a good run. Yeah. Good job with them, yeah. Yeah. Like, they had a couple different ones that were shit. Oh, yeah. Cardinals sucked. No, no, I'm not talking about. Oh, my bad. Yeah. I like the Cardinals. Yeah, Sandstorm. Sandstorm. Sandstorm. I loved it. I'm not talking about this era. Oh, my bad, yeah. Because there was the color rush run. Some of those jerseys were really bad, but some of them were awesome. There was a couple eras where they were trying to make new shirts, and they all sucked.

2:42:05Pat McAfee:The logos, the graphics, the font that they were using on. Yeah, the alternate logo. All the shit sucked. Yeah, and it was like these rivalry runs I thought was a big deal. These things were nice. You wear them a lot. And I wear it like the other merch that they have, like shirts, like the sweatshirt I think I might have worn on here once. But, yeah, everything they have on there is top notch. And that is the cool thing about it, too, is it's not just like a color rush. Like, they all have actual meaning to the cities. Like, obviously, the snow. New England's was, you know, a storm surge, like a nor 'easter.

2:42:38Yeah, nor 'easter. There it is. Arizona's sand, which is cool because it's in Arizona. And it makes sense. It's a desert. I mean, the Dolphins jerseys damn near had me thinking they might go win the division with how cool those were Monday night.

2:42:51Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, Gumby put that jersey on and became a new man. Yeah, dark water. He legitimately did, and so did the Dolphins, maybe. Yeah. Maybe they wear that thing throughout. Tyree Kill. Cool. Drew Rosenhaus spoke with. Josh Moser. The Moser Show? Yeah. Mos Nose.

2:43:08AQ Shipley:Or maybe my. Is it Mos Nose? I should know. He hosted something for you.

2:43:12Pat McAfee:Mos Nose. At the Mos Nose. At the Mos Nose. Oh, yeah. Okay. Whatever it is, good name. Yeah. At T-H-E-M-O-Z-K-N-O-W-Z. So... Moz Nose? Moz Nose? It'd be cool if it was Moz Nose. Yeah. That would be cool if it was at the Moz Nose. What do you think, AQ, just as a guy that's well-cultured? Yeah, Moz Nose for sure. Okay, so... Gotta be. What about... His name is what, though, D-Butt? You're friends with this? Josh Mosner. Oh, you said Mosner earlier, though. Now we don't know.

2:43:47AQ Shipley:Not sure. He's got great moxie, I'll tell you how much.

2:43:49Pat McAfee:M-O-S-E-R, that's Moser.

2:43:51AQ Shipley:Yeah.

2:43:51Pat McAfee:Right? Not Moser. Yeah. So it is the Mos Nose. Okay. This is from the Mos Nose. He spoke to Drew Rosenhaus about Tyreek Hill's injury and surgery and projected recovery. Shout out to the Mos. Thanks for joining us. Just such an emotional night. The Mos is on the left. How are you holding up? Well, you know, I've been an agent for 37 years, and this is the first time I've rode in an ambulance with one of my clients from a game. Very traumatic experience. I thought I've seen it all, but definitely a very painful moment to be with Tyreek is his ambulance to the hospital. You know, people forget football is, I mean, it's more than a game.

2:44:33It's a career for people. It's their livelihood and it's their life. It's their health. And to see Tyreek in an ambulance racing to a hospital was really very painful. How are his spirits? amazing i can't tell you how impressed i am with uh his mental toughness with his uplifting uh attitude he's keeping a smile on his face um telling myself and his parents who were with me you know that he's blessed to you know be in the position that he's in he was watching the game he He was cheering for his teammates. He was rooting the team on. He's handling a very tough situation the very best that you can.

2:45:23We understand that it's a dislocated knee. What other information do you possibly have about what's going on? I'm sure. So as we speak, he's at the hospital now. That's where I'm doing this Zoom from the hospital. He's getting an MRI and a CT scan to determine the exact extent of the damage. Are there any torn ligaments? Is there torn cartilage? Are there any broken bones to check on the blood flow? Any, God forbid, nerve damage? All of this is getting checked out. I want to say that the Dolphins team doctor, John Uribe, is here. Team trainer, Kyle Johnston. They've just been exceptional. The Dolphins are taking good care of Tyreek.

2:46:11We don't know the extent of the injury, Josh. You know, the team doctors have told me he dislocated his knee, which I think was apparent for everyone who watched the horrific play. But what that means and the extent of the damage and whether he'll need surgery to what extent, all of that we should find out within the next couple hours. What about you? Are you staying there overnight? How's your nice looking? Yeah, I'll stay here at least until Tariq and his situation is situated. He's in good hands. He's got friends and family here now. So he's well taken care of and I appreciate everyone's prayers and good wishes.

2:46:54And he'll get through this. We have ours as well. You're the best in the business, Drew. We thank you so much for taking a couple minutes here and giving us an update. You bet, Josh. Take care, man. I'll keep you posted.

2:47:05Pat McAfee:You're the best, too, Moose. Wow. Oh, yeah, most. I had another one yesterday, too. Yeah, a little follow-up. He had no nerve damage. Everything put back into place, I believe. And the thought is he's maybe going to be back before next season.

2:47:19AQ Shipley:You know, that's coming from Drew. And Drew's going to be positive and very optimistic, and we hope so as well. But he said multiple ligaments were damaged. But one surgery is always a good thing.

2:47:29Pat McAfee:And also the nerves not being fucked.

2:47:31AQ Shipley:Huge.

2:47:31Pat McAfee:I think that's the big question mark because nerves can heal, and then nerves also cannot heal. Like that's kind of the way it's always talked about.

2:47:38AQ Shipley:Yeah. I had a nerve injury one time and like doctor was like, it could be, you could be good in a week or you can never be back. So, Oh,

2:47:45Pat McAfee:okay. That was the big thing with Peyton. Whenever he was coming out of the neck surgeries, the nerves, I don't remember what it was. He either couldn't feel his fingers or feel his hands. That's why he started wearing the glove or whatever, because he was coming out of it. But whenever he was with the Colts, because Colts had to figure out whether or not they were going to cut him or, you know, what they were going to do with Andrew Luck kind of waiting in the wings and also a massive bonus and also the lockout happened. So there was a lot of things kind of, it was a business was happening. It was a lot of business stuff was happening at one time, but the nerve conversation was always like, are the nerves going to heal?

2:48:15Pat McAfee:Like, is the nerve going to heal? They're like, every doctor's like, maybe, probably. Is there a chance the nerve doesn't heal? Maybe. We hope not. It's like nobody's figured out the nerves yet. The nerves seemingly are the, and whenever you have that much damage, you assume that there's going to be some nerve damage in there as well that then affects every other part of the recovery happy to hear that on Ty Rakel if he's back by next year that's unbelievable work and I think we'll all be excited to see where it is Tone what was another thing that you wanted to make sure we mentioned here live from Hammer yeah um you know the Yankees and Red Sox game is tonight at six o 'clock and I had good news for Ty if it's not going well around 8 p.m.

2:49:01On ABC, the season two premiere of Shifting Gear starring Tim Allen is on. And hold on. Huge surprise. Huge awesomeness. Al Borland's going to be on the show tonight. Yeah. What? Heidi as well, I believe. What? And Jill. And Jill. And the kids. Is it tool time? It's basically tool time. It is. I already got a DVR. I'm not so sure that I'm not going to pause the Yankees game and pick that up later. What about Wilson? Rest in peace. I don't believe he died.

2:49:36Pat McAfee:Are you shitting me? Rest in peace, Mr. Wilson. I apologize. And Zachary Ty Bryan obviously won't be able to come back because he's been arrested like 20 times. What about JTT? JTT, I think, is trying to keep the tool man of the past. Yeah, right, but he won't come to shift gears, maybe. Maybe he wants to shift gears. I'm thinking that there's a chance that they're being real hush-hush about this. And then, like, last scene of the episode. Oh, everybody. Actually, AJ just texted me, ZTBA was actually chewing on the wires at his house. That's why the power was out. All right. Shifting gears tonight, 8 p.m.

2:50:09Pat McAfee:Where are we watching this at? Is that Heidi? Is that Heidi? ABC. Where are we watching this at? ABC. ABC. Home Improvement, large portion of me and my family's life. Yes. I mean, this was appointment television for the McAfee household. I mean, some of my best memories as a child, Home Improvement. Yeah. And then obviously you watched him go and just crush it, not only in Toy Story and everything like that, but to visit Michigan commercials. Yeah. Just absolutely slaughtering. Pure Michigan. Oh, there it is, the pure Michigan commercials where he's going up the lake with some cliffs, some trees.

2:50:43Pat McAfee:Is he still doing those? They kicked him off it. There was some other stuff that happened. He had some opinions. People weren't happy. His entire story, though, is one of like... That's when that state started going downhill. Inspirate. When they got ripped them out. I mean, you go after Tim the Toolman Taylor, there's going to be a lot of people who go, what a show, dude. What a show. That's happening tonight? Are they just running it back? What if he's straight into it? What if they do straight into Tool Time? If they're smart, they will. If I know Tim Dick, and I do, that's his real name. He probably just wrote an episode of Tool Time.

2:51:25tonight. Yeah, exactly. I get we got Shifting Gears. This is a new show on ABC. What is Shifting Gears, by the way? I don't know. I've never watched it, but you're telling me fucking Al Borland and Heidi and Jill are showing up? Yeah. Consider me in. We need a tool

2:51:41Pat McAfee:time. We do. Now more than ever. Especially Shifting Gears, you just make it with cars instead of wood. I mean, he always had the hot rod down there in a garage. Exactly. He's always working on it. Always working on it. Felt like he was trying to get away a lot. It did. I wonder how many beers he was drinking in the garage. Jill's driving him crazy after a long day. I need to make a hot rod. It feels like you're never going to finish this thing. That's the goal. Yeah, exactly. Mark shows up. He comes home. He's goth all of a sudden. I'm going to go fucking work on the hot rod and drink 18 Miller Lights right now.

2:52:12Pat McAfee:Now that we all kind of understand the game a little bit more. Crazy, my dad loved that show so much. Fuck, this guy's a kid.

2:52:22Pat McAfee:All right. So what time? 8 o 'clock on ABC tone? Yep, exactly. Shifting gears. Hell yeah. Let's shift gears back to sports. More people might watch this in the Super Bowl. This should maybe be the halftime show. This should have been the halftime show. Yeah, you're right. Hold on. I've come around to it. Babani is a techno show for us. English speaking people. That's all it's got to be. Just sounds. You like a lot of different music. I love Bad Bunny. You like Bad Bunny? Yeah, I vacation in Mexico a lot and I've become one with Bad Bunny. Yeah, it just vibes. That's not where he's from, AQ. That's the music.

2:52:57Pat McAfee:That's the music that they listen to. You know what I'm saying. What are you talking about, Spanish-speaking music? You're a real piece of shit, dude. He's number one on the Mexico charts on Spotify every time. Yeah. How often are you checking the Mexico charts? Every time he goes, he says, I want to be one with the low. You ever hear the beats of that type of music? True, yeah, yeah, true. I go on there all the time. You're salsa in a little bit. Yeah. Give me a Bad Bunny song that you like. Like, what's the one that you're like, you know what, I can't wait for him to play this at the Super Bowl halftime show?

2:53:26Well, see, I don't know any of the words, and I don't know the names of them. Not just the sound. Well, the first song off his second to most recent album sounds like very Eminem style.

2:53:39Pat McAfee:What's the sound? You know how Eminem sounds. No, there's a lot of different Eminem sounds. Mom's spaghetti. So, bad buying? You speak in English? No, that's what I'm saying. I don't know the words. But the sound, the sound. For instance, our favorite is...

2:54:02I don't know that song. I don't know what that is. You tell us your song. I would know it if I heard it. Based on that, don't have any clue. That's exactly what it sounds like.

2:54:13Pat McAfee:We'll do it one more time. Let's hear it. Shambia.

2:54:28Pat McAfee:It's a banger. So good. It was this WWE entrance. It was sick. It was honestly nasty. I've seen that entrance. Yes, it was. If they have any part of that, which they won't, because there's going to be a bunch of corporate people at the Super Bowl that are paying a bunch of money, who I think even if it was songs that we all knew, if it was sing-along songs, would not know the sing-along. This song sounds good. What's it called? Piano Man. whoa that's crazy some of these people you know that are going to be at this thing with the money so i think you're never going to get that moment but i do wish there was sing-along moments in there like that is something especially because like world cup or whenever these european games happen or they came down in brazil like whenever they showcase a local like and i'm not saying bad bunny isn't a local but it's like they're celebrating their culture it's like we're not gonna be able to speak i need to be able to speak what's happening to the Super Bowl halftime.

2:55:19AQ Shipley:He's got a vibe. It's a techno song. He's got a vibe because they're not... We're not the target. It's because... It's a global game. They will crush all the viewership records. Mexico, South America, everywhere else. This guy, you know...

2:55:37Pat McAfee:International icon. Got real motion.

2:55:41AQ Shipley:Motion.

2:55:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, everywhere. He sells out islands and everything like that. And I think it was... Somebody mentioned it about us not being the target. They know we're going to watch. The halftime show is not for us to enjoy. No. Halftime show is for people that maybe aren't going to watch to maybe, oh, what's the interest over there? We'll go snoop around. San Benito is going to be performing at halftime. Obviously we'll go poke around. Maybe some magic will happen. Maybe people that have zero... Flag football. Boom. Come on in. San Benito is coming in there. Now, with that being said, they know we're going to watch.

2:56:15Pat McAfee:They could give us something. there's obviously a counter at all times but from a business perspective I guess Bob Bonney makes a lot of sense because a lot of people that don't know Ball or watch Ball will watch for Bad Bunny so that's their story and can't hammer home enough how much of a showman this guy is even as someone who this isn't for per se just because I don't know a lot of his music I am excited to see what he does with the stage, with all the types of shit he could do Cirque du Soleil, who knows Yeah, I think he'll be a good show. What will the collabs be? I saw somebody tweet Luke Combs would be good.

2:56:52Pat McAfee:With Bad Bunny? No, no, no. Just if he was to do it. We were trying to find it. I mean, maybe though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get there? No, about Bunny. But people are like, Luke Combs has a Rolodex of songs that have enough different, like, obviously fast car all the way to long neck to everything, like, kind of in between there. he potentially has a library that could entertain the masses because you do have to think about that if it's not Bad Bunny then who is somebody that's going to be able to entertain everybody because we're mad that Bad Bunny's doing it because we don't think we're a part of the group that he's there to, who would be the person that would have it?

2:57:30Creed, Nickelback

2:57:31Pat McAfee:Hey, listen, I'm in and if you were just to toss Backstreet Boys in sync and maybe just do a full throwback situation have 50 Cent come out to the end of the club like he did Just do a full throwback. I think they need to do show. Backstreet NSYNC would have been sick. And they just sold out the sphere like 1 ,000 nights in a row. Justin Timberlake still doing it over there? I saw him dancing on the internet. I think so, but he had to apologize. For his dancing? No. Nah, he got DUI and had to cancel a show or something, right? Oh, boo-hoo. Come on. What's that? What was that? I don't know. I thought he said someone else, and I realized you said DUY?

2:58:15Yeah. But I can't do that. Yeah, I can't do that, JT.

2:58:19Pat McAfee:I can't do that, JT. He was dancing, though, on stage, and he wasn't singing. He put the microphone down. He was dancing, and people were commenting about how much money people were paying to go see him in concert. They're like, this is what you're paying for. And it was not just a Timberlake guy, remember. He used to have those silky knees. Oh, yeah. I mean, he used to be able to move. But he was also enjoying the moment with his fans that he's had over 20 years. Exactly. Can't be judging him just for one little clip out of context. He's still Justin Timberlake. We got to remember that. Come on.

2:58:46They always make fun of him for the whole.

2:58:49Pat McAfee:He had a great Super Bowl performance. He did? Yeah, pretty historic. All the time. People remember it. That's what we're saying. He's got dance moves. Now, that's a collab. Three different parties there came together for one big moment. And I don't know if they'll ever give Justin Timberlake the halftime show again. Or his flyers. Or his flyers for the halftime show? Yeah, just, you know, he's still got it. It was my favorite halftime all the time. We understand why, and we hear what you guys are saying, and we respect and appreciate your reasoning. I will say that Prince won insane. I mean, you just kind of think back, and I always say like two of them, like the Tom Petty one, they had the full – I couldn't even imagine, rest in peace Tom Petty, now with the modern technology that you could have with that entire thing.

2:59:38Pat McAfee:But I don't know who is the right person. I've tried to figure it out. I don't know who.

2:59:43AQ Shipley:Everyone won't be happy with anyone. Yeah. Like, there is no one person who everybody's going to say, oh, that's, you know. I mean, when Michael Jackson was here, you're talking about Prince. Like, Michael Jackson, I mean, I think he'd probably get a 99 % on the fucking Rotten Tomatoes. But, I mean, after that, you know, you're going to have a bunch of people.

2:59:59Pat McAfee:Legit. I don't know if there is a. I don't think there is one. I don't know who it is. It was Taylor Swift. I don't think. But, no. You see how many NFL-adjacent people are pissed off any time she's like. People would have been mad. Yeah, that's right. I don't think there is anyone who people would unanimously be like, you know what, yeah. That's the move. That should be the Super Bowl. So what if that is Roger Goodell and Jay-Z right a part of the decision maker? Roger Goodell will go, we're never going to make everybody happy, so fuck it. Who brings the most amount of people? Let them know if they'll do it for free.

3:00:29Pat McAfee:They will. Okay. Yeah. Guys, somebody please go talk to a football girl, Taylor Swift. We would love to have her, obviously, at Super Bowl. We'd love to showcase her. Taylor Swift goes, just a couple quick questions. So, how's this? You guys give me a car to the stadium, or what is the whole, do I have a green room? Oh, you'll get paid nothing, yeah. Yeah, you'll pay for your own shit, actually. What was the old buddy that paid for it? The weekend. The weekend he was paying his own money for the mirrors, allegedly, for this entire thing. Just see what happens to your numbers the next day, though.

3:01:02Pat McAfee:That's what Uncle NFL will do for you. I don't think so. That's going to be a no for me. Okay. And then Bad Bunny was like, do I have to sing in English? And they're like, nope. And he's like, see, I'll fucking do that thing. He's going to kill it. Yeah. That's a lot of space and opportunity for him. Lady Gaga, what'd she do? She jumped off the top of the stadium? Yes, right? Yeah, I think so. Gaga came in from the top of the stadium, I think. Like, Bad Bunny's going to do some absurd shit. Rihanna was up there too, right? When they lifted her up?

3:01:35AQ Shipley:Yeah, I feel like I remember her, like, hanging up red shit. They were pregnant. Yes, very pregnant. Who was last year's? Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar. And then who was the year before? Usher. Was it Rihanna? It was Usher. Weekend with Bryn Breeson. Alicia? It was Usher, then Rihanna, then Dr. Dre and Snoop. That one was good. Then The Weeknd.

3:01:58Pat McAfee:But Dre and Snoop was a collaborative effort, which I think they should do more of. I think there should be a collaborative effort. Like a 90s collab. Bingo. Yeah, or like country music will do one. Or like rap will do one. Or like rock will do one right now. Because there's like this young guy, Youngblood, that everybody's like, he's the next one when it comes to like rock stars, rock icons. It's like, so you could still have Steve. They're not actually singing. Like it's all, right? Like you could just kind of pay tribute to stuff. Or you could bring Bad Bunny in and bring all of South America, Central America in and just have him go absolutely apeshit.

3:02:33Pat McAfee:Which he's going to do, which we can't wait for. All right, let's wrap this up with one of the best segments that has ever been created. We actually had some history made on this particular segment last week. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for everything DB, good D and bad D. What do we got, D-Bot? Let's go.

3:02:50AQ Shipley:We don't have a history this week, but we got some good plays, starting with the Chicago Bears coming off of back-to-back wins. We kind of spoke about it earlier in the week about the job that Dennis Allen and specifically Al Harris, one of AJ's old teammates, have been doing with this bear secondary. Let's watch Kevin Byard here. If you pause this right here, middle of the screen, right before that safety move, it looks like something middle closed, maybe cover one, maybe cover three, and then post-snap, you'll see it go to a cover two with Kevin Byard pretty much being this run-through guy. Now, if you pause it, run it back a couple frames.

3:03:24AQ Shipley:You pause it here, kind of the top of Geno's drop. He is reading that defender, let's say, right outside of the hash mark, between the hash mark and like that 30-yard line mark. He's reading that defender. He's high-lowing him. He is the defender in conflict in Geno's mind with this dagger concept. So the slot receiver, he's clearing it out, and you got a dig route coming in. So once that defender on third and seven bites up at the sticks, which is what a lot of zone defenders do, he thinks, hey, hit this guy two yards outside of hash, going to be wide open. Nope, Kevin Byers all over it, comes off the clear route to the dig route, diving, interception.

3:04:00AQ Shipley:and they tried to write Kevin Byard off. Started off a little slow, but he made some big-time plays. Two interceptions in this one. Tyreek Stevenson had a great one as well, but great job anticipating the concept, kind of baiting the quarterback into this throw, and then finishing it with a great, great catch across the middle.

3:04:16Pat McAfee:Thanks for not finishing the write-off-I-didn't-write-back thing because that's actually a Geno quote trademark and patented, and then you were going to use it against him. So thank you for not doing that. But the Chicago Bears defense might be the real deal. I mean, those are some spectacular picks that they showed. And Geno Smith, a lot of people were kind of hating on him. It's like great plays out of the defense of the Chicago Bears. They might have figured it out.

3:04:36AQ Shipley:Yeah, this is a great play. And if you run it back to that wide copy, a lot of people will say, you know, Monday morning quarterback, hey, if you hold on to this and you let this rip to that seam route right down the middle, it's wide open because that corner at the bottom is not getting there. That safety is definitely not getting there if you just lead him and throw it out there, which he's made some big-time plays. I believe that's Tucker. but when they're running this play, they're running this to be a clear out. They're running this to get past the sticks. You see Dagger concept almost every week on here and reading that defender that he's reading, he thought he had the right answer, but this is a great job by a veteran safety making a big-time play.

3:05:09AQ Shipley:That's some good D.

3:05:10Pat McAfee:We got some more good D? Or are we showcasing along?

3:05:13AQ Shipley:No, we got some more good D. Good D, good D. We do. We got some good defense here. This is a trick play down here, third and five. Good one. Trick play. Let's do a little reverse. Hand it off to Chris Olave. Let's see. Hit the quarterback. Nope. Cole Bishop came across with a nasty one-handed snag to finish this playoff. What you got, AQ? You see the block? You see the block down at the end there after the interception? Yeah. Watch this coming in, Raider. Wait for it. Boom. That's cheap. That's cheap. I'm surprised I didn't call that.

3:05:50Pat McAfee:Look at the Caucasian flying through the sky. obviously stealing a pick. Normally, trick plays work for every team in the NFL. This one, absolutely not, says Cole Bishop.

3:05:58AQ Shipley:If you run it back a little bit at the beginning, once Olave is kind of pulling his ball back, and obviously he's not a quarterback, but when he's pulling his ball back, pause it. He thinks, like, right now you see Spencer Rattler wide-ass open. If he gives him a better throw, maybe a little bit more heat on it towards that pylon, I think he does catch this and score. But Cole Bishop, when you're in this position as a DB, this is when you kind of look back and hope for a bad throw and just make a play because if he catches it in stride, he's going to score anyway. That's what Cole Bishop did and then went up and made a phenomenal grab.

3:06:28Pat McAfee:I love a little good D down there. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. I mean, look at those fans, too. Yeah, they love good D, too. Yeah, and after, they love that D. Yeah, they love that Cole Bishop D right there.

3:06:37AQ Shipley:And look at the score right here, too. This is a 10-14 game, so they scored a touchdown right here. The Saints will be up 17-14 against the Buffalo Beals. And the next one, the Jacksonville Jaguars. we've been talking about this game. What's this all about?

3:06:51Pat McAfee:They got in the trenches and good digs?

3:06:53AQ Shipley:That's always good vibes when you can do that. Watch Devin Lloyd here right in the middle of this defense. Probably will be the AFC defensive player of the week with his performance this week. Now this is that middle run through similar to what Kevin Byard was but Kevin Byard came from more depth. Him just reading this past concept once again understanding where that deep dig route is going to come from. Brock Purdy can't make this throw. The throw did get batted at the line of scrimmage but I think it would have been intercepted Either way, great job anticipating this play and then making the catch.

3:07:22AQ Shipley:So, bam, right here, tip. Maybe threw it off just a little bit once again. I think this is getting intercepted either way. A great, great performance from Devin Lloyd. Once again, we'll be talking about complimentary football. This defense, last year, they had nine takeaways the entire year. They're already up to 13 takeaways and leading the National Football League in takeaways. So, big-time turnaround with Anthony Campanelli over there, the defensive coordinator.

3:07:48Pat McAfee:Is it mindset, personnel? What is it?

3:07:51AQ Shipley:All of those things. Mindset, personnel, being comfortable within the scheme. And then sometimes the ball just bounces your way. This is a great play. He went out there and made this play. But sometimes just being around the football to end the Houston Texans game, like 30-something seconds left on the clock. C.J. Stroud going to make a throw. Josh Hines-Allen kind of strips sacks, hits the ball on its way out, kind of becomes an overthrow, just a little duck in the air. He picks that one off. We had Jordan Lewis last week on Everything DB showing that disguise pre-snap, getting back into the flat, and then making a big-time play.

3:08:24AQ Shipley:So just executing. And, you know, good coaching staff. They got a good coaching staff over there. And something, obviously, it was a lot talked about, Salah and Liam Cohen. But after the game, yesterday, actually, Robert Salah was asked about the whole dust-up once again. It was something he said that had nothing to do with that. But he was giving compliment to Liam Cohen. He said something. Let's actually get to the clip, and I'll go off it and get some bad tea. They're really, really good at putting their players in a position to be successful. You know, as coaches, we're always chasing leverage.

3:08:54They're trying to have winning leverage. We're trying to take leverage away.

3:08:57AQ Shipley:So leverage, and you're very familiar with it in the kicking game, lanes, lane integrity, offensive linemen, and it's something like leverage is like a big-time word, and the casual fan at home might not understand it as much. When you see guys wide-ass open or a big run play happens, you're like, How the hell did that happen? So this is an example of that. One of the best wide receivers in the league, six touchdowns right now. And you can kind of think, okay, every defense coming into the red zone, if you pause it here, you want to know where 14 is, where St. Brown is in every play. So right now, Grant Delpit, he's guarding him.

3:09:27AQ Shipley:They're getting some information right here, okay? Is he following 14 to the left and to the right? Maybe man-to-man coverage. Now let it roll here. So now when you get down here and you have a tight formation or a slot defender, you can see the corner at the bottom of the screen on JMO. Outside leverage. The corner up top, outside leverage. Grant Delpit, outside leverage. But what the Detroit Lions do here is do a good job running a rub route, a natural pick route with Tesla on the outside. So he's just running his vertical route, and he's going to set a natural pick, which takes away that leverage.

3:09:58AQ Shipley:And now without a switch, without a combination switch, it's a walk-in touchdown for one of the best wide receivers in the National Football League. So when Salah says something like, hey, coaches and players, We're always trying to find a way to get our players in good leverage. That could be a wide receiver. That could be an offensive lineman getting a little chip, a little help. We're always looking for that leverage on any given play, and this is a great example of that and why a lot of big plays happen and why touchdowns happen.

3:10:23Pat McAfee:Thank you. That's cheating. Offensive cheating right there. That's a pick play.

3:10:28AQ Shipley:He did a great job just running his route. If he stopped or he made it clear, and you can't set a pick within one yard of the line of scrimmage. This was a little deeper, but he just ran straight up the field. Usually with young wide receivers, they don't do a good job playing this off. He just ran straight up, and it's a natural pick, and you can get away with that.

3:10:43Pat McAfee:He's finished it, too.

3:10:45AQ Shipley:Yeah.

3:10:45Pat McAfee:Full sell on the other side. No, no, I'm running a full route here. That wasn't just to chip this guy right through his outside shoulder and have Amon Ross St. Brown wide ass open for a touchdown. Finishes his route full pace. Yep, these refs are going to think, nope, I'm out here. Never going to get that ball. Ever. Good sell.

3:11:01AQ Shipley:Great sell.

3:11:03Pat McAfee:That's good sell. That's a rookie.

3:11:05AQ Shipley:back. Never even looked back. It's a rookie, so that lets you know it's a great coach. Shout out Johnny Moe over here.

3:11:11Pat McAfee:Johnny fucking Moe. What do you know? Moe's nose, and so does Johnny Moe. I mean, that is certainly something. Do we have any other bad deals? Is that it?

3:11:18AQ Shipley:Yeah, we got a couple more bad deals. Once again, we always have a theme, and this is leverage. Once again, we got a slot fade from Higgins, the slot receiver up top. Running back a little bit, you see the communication. He kind of taps his, looks like maybe his ribs to the outside receiver up top and you're in that slot this is one of the toughest routes to guard you want to keep your outside leverage if you're that slot corner and why because you have your only help deep is that post safety so you want to use that post safety once he gets to your outside and takes away that leverage the quarterback immediately knows when he going where's he where he's going with the ball you even look at the outside receiver who i believe is dalton schultz as soon as this ball is thrown based on his release he knows it's a touchdown so you'll see the outside receiver you see him throw his hands up touchdown great ball thrown boom once again winning leverage in the slot with the outside if you watch tackle him here yeah if you what's that when this guy

3:12:15Pat McAfee:because if he's even he's right there you tackle him oh yeah i'm grabbing him yeah i'm grabbing

3:12:20AQ Shipley:it's a great throw it's a great route and you you just make the game tougher on you when you're in that slot and that was much easier sitting here with a clicker as uh toa said than actually to getting out there and executing but if you just maintain that leverage or make it tough you at least give that safety a chance to help you but right here great job this is a rookie right receiver too this is from uh iowa state if i'm not mistaken so great job boom throwing get off me stack them great ball from cj cj stroud and once again running away from your help so good job there.

3:12:52Pat McAfee:Gotta have great leverage. Alright, and I think we have one more back. One more, and look, I don't like

3:12:57AQ Shipley:to put back from winning teams. I don't like it, Bruce. I'm sorry, but I had to stick with the theme, and this is a big play. And Amarion Hampton, he was kind of the silver lining in this loss for the Chargers. We always hear the concept, no edge, no chance on defense. So if you look here at the edge defenders, once again, this is for the casual viewers at home. Every defense has an edge to it, and two guys responsible to set an edge on either side of the field right here's brian burns and kvon thibodeau so you'll see the edges set so watch it to the left where the run will happen with brian burns boom pause it so he sets the edge but i mean the a good edge is you're setting it but you're also squeezing it so you make those lanes tighter so he set the edge so he can look back at the coach say hey i set my edge i sent it back inside but you kind of got to squeeze that so the offensive player here does a good job of creating that space because the the less space you have there the easier you make it for number 21 to come and fill his gap.

3:13:53AQ Shipley:And if you let it run a few frames here, he's coming down. Now he has to set the edge on the next level to send the guys to send the ball back into all those blue shirts coming inside out. But if you watch 53, you take your eyes inside one more block. He went on the inside of that block. So that means 58 would have to get over to the outside. We saw it earlier with the Pittsburgh Steelers a couple weeks ago. He would have to get to the outside. So if you run it back, actually, you'll see it kind of happen full speed. It's just that one block and these backs are so good that they find that space, they find the lane, the vision, and then you have the explosion to take away angles.

3:14:28AQ Shipley:We know speed kills matchups and that's what Amari on Hampton did right there. So it's always about angles, but something that Coach Salah said, former head coach, obviously a very good defensive coordinator in the league, is leverage. We're always fighting for that leverage and it's some examples of that.

3:14:41Pat McAfee:All you need is one guy to be wrong and then people can't even fix it. That's crazy. That's a sport. Rugby is like that as well, right? Rugby is very spread out, but in NFL, if you just get two guys stacked behind each other and one gap left wide open and one gap taken by two people, that's touchdown, bro. That is it. All you need is one person to not see the field the same way. That's why any play can change the trajectory of a season. And that's why you always want to be on good D and not bad D with everything DB. Baby D-Bot. Great job. Thank you for traveling out here, buddy. Thanks for having me.

3:15:13Pat McAfee:Great job, boys. So we didn't talk about Penn State, really. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

3:15:23AQ Shipley:That must be really good. Really good. Whoa. They're dead. They didn't even say it. Did you watch the album? No, you didn't say it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. We are Penn State.

3:15:34Pat McAfee:Oh, no. Like a little house cat. That is cute. Like a little house cat. Like a little pussy cat. Unbelievable. So soft there. So soft. What's the problem? You're a Penn Stater. Come on, Q. It was the best atmosphere I've seen and experienced. It was awesome. Got a chance to go see the national champion women's volleyball team hang out with them. We need to start stacking wins there as well. Got a chance to see a lot of the facilities that are being built up. Obviously, had a chance to hang out at the stadium a couple different times. I mean, everything is awesome up there. Yeah. And obviously, Oregon's going to be around in the long run.

3:16:08Pat McAfee:That thing went double overtime. Good weekend up there. Good weekend up there. They had three points going into the fourth quarter. And they still got to overtime. Yeah, and that's my issue with it is the fact that we have all these slow developing runs. We don't push the ball down the field. Everything's short of the sticks. Everything's these short stick routes. Everything's gimmicky. Everything's all what it shouldn't be for the first three quarters. And then we decide to open up the playbook, push the ball down the field. Well, you want him to run the ball or you want him to throw the ball?

3:16:34I want him to run off the ball. I want it to be aggressive. I want it to look like the other stuff. I want it to look like Bama. I want it to look like, Jordan, you got the talent. Open it up. Let's go.

3:16:45Pat McAfee:Well, I thought it was an okay game. You know, I thought it was an okay game. Did you watch the offense for the first three quarters? I was there, yeah. It was tough. It was really tough. But your defense is awesome. Defense, phenomenal. They play it out of their minds. I mean, I love everything they did, and I love the new defensive coordinator mixing up the coverages. I thought he did a great job with that, mixing up the blitz with the coverage. I thought that was great. They played with chaos and relentless. But, like, on offense, everything takes five seconds to get going. Can't do it. Run off the ball, hand the ball, get downhill.

3:17:17111 ,000 people in there.

3:17:19Pat McAfee:Showed up. Middle of a renovation. Expecting electricity. You know what they got? Struck by lightning. Oh, wow. Pretty good. I like that. Wow. Cute. There was a lightning being struck conversation that Portnoy was having over there. Saw people really reacting negatively. People didn't love that. He obviously didn't mean. You sure? He didn't want people to get struck by lightning.

3:17:43AQ Shipley:But if it happens It's a bad day

3:17:46Pat McAfee:It is a bad day That place was awesome It's unbelievable isn't it I mean that experience I told you that It feels like it's on top of you That is the difference It feels like it's on top of you And everybody's on the same exact page DJ same page Person that's sitting in the bottom row First row same page Person that's sitting at the top Everybody's on the same page So many chants, so many songs, so many everything How about the Mo Bamba Awesome. And the timing of it, perfect. As soon as the tackle was made.

3:18:25I think I nailed him.

3:18:26Pat McAfee:So you nailed Mo Bamba. How about some Bad Bunny? You say you love him. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't. He doesn't. Are you lying? You're trying to be cool right now on the internet. I do. I do. You don't give too shit. You're not going to be able to play this. Can't play it because it'll get us. Yes, definitely not. I'll get us cut off. Yes, it certainly will. How many seconds? What? Can you play it? Yeah. Zero? With how big Babani is. Babani is fucking huge. It's immediate. That one's probably, yeah, trying to get... Yeah. That's probably getting C &D'd pretty quick. As soon as... Yeah. Lawsuit. I'm going to have to use the Google translator.

3:19:01Pat McAfee:Something was sent to me in Spanish. What's it say? Fucking stop it. We're going to sue you. Perfect. Merci beaucoup. Nope. Muchos gracias. Yep. Both play, I think.

3:19:12AQ Shipley:Has anyone tried the new AirPods?

3:19:14Pat McAfee:That translate? Yeah. I don't know. I got the new phone, though. The new phone has a bunch of that shit. Like it? They've changed things for no reason. Of course. You know, just no reason. Had it figured out. We can keep it. But some developers said, I need to prove I'm worth a fuck, so let's change it a little bit. And inevitably, I'll be comfortable with the new ways of the little things. You know, like I am a FaceTimer. They change a FaceTime the way it's logged. It went to missed call. here's a call that you should make maybe a suggested call i just want to see the fucking log yeah just give me the goddamn log you have a missed face time from who you can't who knows and that call could have been from anywhere the way it's in there photos the camera's incredible okay camera great news camera is good camp the camera button camera button's incredible so you take pictures with this now you know as opposed to having to reach to the top one like where you could only do pictures on that okay or have to use screen now there's an added button that is for the camera and you can zoom with it and everything and obviously the camera is impeccable okay the ai obviously good they change the way you search through your phone i don't like that so i'm a big search through my phone somebody's name want their uh info just to pop up right there so i can just hit text and then send now it's the most recent interaction with the person pops up so like uh if i wanted to text gumpy but my last interaction was like let's say a facetime So I search Gumpy instead of his contact info popping up, which is on old phone So I could just hit fucking message this guy Gumpy need to message him now It's our most recent interaction, which was a FaceTime.

3:20:45Pat McAfee:Okay, so now Gumpy FaceTime is on the screen So then I got a click in info into that to go into shit to hit the thing and I'm like If I want to fucking FaceTime a fucking FaceTime, but we had that figured out Why are we changing it now granted? Somebody's gonna tell me well what you gotta do is you gotta hack into your settings into your software and you can change that back to whatever you want it it's like okay well they just popped this thing on my life easy transition to no phone easiest there's been that's good news you put the phones next to each other and they start talking to each other it's good that that finally works because they've been peddling that for years now and it never has i think it was 25 minutes we have thousand up thousand down here at thunderdome though so that probably helps if i guess did it here set the phones next to each other and they started kind of talking to each other have to answer questions have to remember a couple passwords but most of the passwords face recognition carried over that's good very good two-step verification process will place you sending text messages to your phone interesting because my verizon didn't move over until last so i had the internet on new phone uploading apps verizon two-step verification still on old phone so then whenever verizon moves to new phone two-step verification where to go yeah i still don't know where some of them went i still haven't been able to verify and get into a couple of the apps but all in all 25 minutes for me smooth transition easiest of all time didn't ruin my entire day we had very high internet speed and it is very nice the screen's very nice the tech the tech is very nice they've changed some things like why the fuck we touch anything but i think there is real advancements editing a lot easier, I think, for us, which is good.

3:22:24Pat McAfee:They made some stuff in the background. It's good phone. They don't have black, though. I was going to say, enough with the fucking goofy Mickey Mouse colors. It's like that orange one, I get it. That is everyone's last pick, no matter what. It's zany. There's a blue, an orange, and a white, I think. Is that the colors, if I recall? There's no black. Yeah, not having black is insane to me. It's got to be the number one most selling, most popular choice of all time. But this is, once again, you know. Well, Zito did have a good point. He said, well, you know what they're going to do in four weeks.

3:22:59There's going to be an exclusive A of the Black ones here, and it's going to be$1 ,200 more or$1 ,600 more. Night Ops. Yeah, exactly.

3:23:05Pat McAfee:Or something like that. You can trade in your super duper for the superest of duper. Yeah, just another. Yeah, probably. You're saying$1 ,200? Probably like$12 ,000. Maybe. Yeah. And guess what? And I was just agreeing to a bunch of things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, whatever you got to do. Yeah. Send it to me. Yep, sure. For some of them, they make you scroll down. Go to scroll down so that we can at least say that you got to the bottom of this thing. Well, why is it in half-inch font? And what the fuck is all this? You can read it. Yes, I can. Yeah. Do you guys have an AI that will read this for me?

3:23:40Pat McAfee:Well, then you got to agree to this, actually. It's like, holy fuck, so I'm just agreeing. You got it. Boom, boom, boom. Get me in there. Even transferred over to home screen. I mean, just everything immediately. No case.

3:23:50AQ Shipley:You're a no-case guy. Roll up. Always. All right.

3:23:53Pat McAfee:That's aggressive respect. I've always been this way. First of all, I respect Steve Jobs and what he wanted to look like. Okay? When you guys put your big blob of shit on it. Okay? It's not – it's – you know, there's an entire design and everything like that. And I respect you guys wanting to protect it. But in my eyes, I think you guys are looser with it because you have the cases on it. Yeah. So for me, I am very careful with this thing. Now, have I dropped it? Oh, yeah. Of course. Have I cracked screens? Of course. Have I had situations that if I had a case on would not be a problem and instead I had a massive problem?

3:24:34Pat McAfee:Yep. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. In between my legs, getting out of the car, that fucking bomb, it's that thing. Oh, yeah. I've had those problems. But I feel overall I am much more careful with it Because I don't feel the luxury of like, oh, I could throw this thing off a wall if I want. And also, Apple, to their credit, has gotten much better over the years with durability. Remember there was that Lil Wayne commercial where he's throwing it under water? I think it was a Samsung phone, maybe. I don't remember. Yeah, maybe. Apple had the same thing. But Apple now, yeah. You can drop it in the ocean.

3:25:03Pat McAfee:You're going to find it. And I think this thing doesn't really crack. Until it does, it kind of cracks. Yeah, and then it spiders everywhere when it does. Yeah, but it's better at not doing that, is what they say. Yeah. but still yeah i go i do i am a wide open kids i know any time control that yeah my daughter grabs it when my daughter grabs it it's so slippery you know and it's like immediately bang right to the ground it's like yeah kids come on a certain way you gotta live whenever you don't have a fucking cover please have a little respect we need that phone yeah sam has a case very nice case a pink one it's a very nice case but i mean the corners that thing just completely oh yeah ravaged it's Obviously it works.

3:25:41That's how mine are. I mean, destroyed.

3:25:45Pat McAfee:See. That surprises me for you. You got like an advancement of technology in our palms like this is absurd. And you, Neanderthal, just like fucking bang. People used to walk miles to get to computers. I know. Yeah. And now we got the greatest computers of all time in our pocket. And you're like, well, I got a fucking Otter case. So fucking. Hey, you want my phone? Somebody use my fucking phone. Quay, go deep. Look at this video. Go in the pool. go to the deep end. It's unbelievable. Maybe take care of your stuff. But yes, I am an abnormal I believe. Abnormality. Me not having the case. It's aggressive.

3:26:21I really don't. I mean, I would have to replace my phone every two weeks.

3:26:24Pat McAfee:Bingo. I don't think so, though. I think that's where... You remember in Batman, when he was down in that pit? And he got out of the pit, everybody tied the thing. So everybody tied the thing. They never fully committed. But they were safe. Oh, it'll save them. until he did what? Took that fucking thing off. Had to. And say, you gotta go. And that's the only time you're ever gonna... That's what I'm doing with the phone. I get it. I'm taking that rope off and you're just living. You're gonna live differently with this, without the rope than you would with your otter case that you're fucking spiking like you're Rob Gronkowski off the ground every other day.

3:26:58But you can't control other people. That's like saying, I'm a great driver. I'm a great driver. Are you? Somebody else may not be. Are you a great driver if you had to really judge yourself? Phenomenal.

3:27:10Pat McAfee:as good as it comes. I can see that. I mean, the peripheral is unmatched. That's like when people ride motorcycles. It's not if you crash, it's when you crash. And everybody says, well, I'm a good rider. It's like, no, it doesn't matter. You got A.J. Hawks out there driving. I'm falling asleep while he's behind the wheel. How are you going to judge that? So you got to watch for other people. I think that's how you become a better driver. When you start driving for other people, that's when I think you're a good driver. You're doing that right now? Oh, yeah. I'm seeing the move before it happens.

3:27:39Pat McAfee:Oh, you're watching the arm, huh? You're not just watching the car. You're watching the arm, maybe. Oh, yeah. Seeing the face, seeing the head down at the phone and knowing, okay, we got to figure out a time to get around this thing. But we understand this thing is in its own world right now. So we just got to let it live. I'm not going to snitch on it, but they need to stop texting while driving. Some of these people should not be doing it. Without a doubt. I'm sorry. Everybody shouldn't be doing it. I got to stop. I've stopped multiple times. What'd you do? Are you a bad texter driver?

3:28:05AQ Shipley:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'll just do something. I'll catch myself just scrolling sometimes.

3:28:10Pat McAfee:Can't.

3:28:10AQ Shipley:Drive. Can't. AJ Hawk falls asleep while driving. I'll stop, though. My kids, they're older than us. Dad, come on. Because I'll be at a light. So I'll do a light. Stop. Green light, Dad. Green light, go. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, that's my reminder. I'll put it down.

3:28:25Pat McAfee:But up here. Australia has nobody's on their phone while driving. For Texas driving? That's smart. So there's every red light basically has a kid. That's smart. You got nobody on their phone while driving. Now, granted, you're wearing your seatbelt in the back seat as well. It feels like you lose some freedoms over there. But it's very beautiful, very nice, and there's nobody texting and driving.

3:28:42AQ Shipley:Good drivers here, from my opinion. Good drivers here compared to – Now, downtown, it may be different, but out in the kind of suburbs area, good drivers here. South Florida is wild. You can get young drivers. You can get people from all over the place. You can get old drivers. Those are the guys and gals you got to watch out for. But out here, very polite. People just let you over. Different world down there.

3:29:03Pat McAfee:Well, you got to watch your round of boots up here. You know, you got to take a lot of your round of boots. Hey, great work this week, boys. We appreciate the hell out of you. Tom, come out here behind the glass. Great work, boys. Good work, Tim. Hell yeah. Let's enjoy the hell out of tonight. We got baseball that matters. We'll be talking about that tomorrow. And kicking off another incredible NFL weekend. Even though the matchups might look like shite, let's remember football always delivers. Be your friend. Tell your friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together.

3:29:26Pat McAfee:Team on me. Team on three. Anything? Thank you. Let's have another good week next week. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Thank you.

From the publisher

On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk to recap the MLB Postseason action & the latest news ahead of NFL Week 5 & CFB Week 6, including the Browns turning to Dillon Gabriel at starting quarterback in London against the Vikings, AQ Shipley's takeaways, and more. In the first hour, we are joined by future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, and now color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt to talk about his childhood diet, TJ Watt & the Steelers performance in Dublin, Ireland (Hup Hup Hup), the game he called between the Commanders & Falcons, and more. In the second hour, World Series Champion & 3x All Star, Phillies DH, Kyle Schwarber joined the progrum to talk about what he is doing during the Phillies bye, their intrasquad game tonight at Citizen Bank park, his approach and the plate, and more. From there, we are joined by Catcher for the Seattle Mariners, Cal Raleigh, fresh off a 60 HR & 125 RBI season, to chat about how the Seattle Mariners are using their bye week, the craziness of his regular season, and much more. We wrap things up with In the Trenches with AQ Shipley and Everything DB: Good D, Bad D with Darius Butler. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We will be LIVE from the ThunderDome tomorrow previewing TNF and more. Cheers.
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