PMS 2.0 1422 - NFL Week 5 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk

19:16Pat McAfee:Is it 19, 14, 15, 16, 17? Wow. Spot on. Wow. Well done. Well done. Boom. Boom. Can we hit this thing right here? Can we hit this? Oh, yeah, yeah. Boom. I thought he had it. Boom. Sorry. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great people, obviously. incredible spot here. Lucky to be a part of it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who was taking a victory lap last night because of a take that he had being accurate. Now, a lot of people would say, in baseball, if you bat 300, you make it into the Hall of Fame. In sports media, if you bat.05, I think you're considered to be great.

20:03Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the pundit of all pundits, the face of the NFL for ESPN, ladies and gentlemen, football guru, quarterback expert, Dan O 'Long. Get that all. And all. I saw the victory line last night. Yeah, yeah, it was a great one. .05? You take a lot of takes, brother. Okay, you take a lot of takes. You do a lot of takes. A lot of TV time. Yeah, okay, I'm not doing it. I don't need to hear that, okay? I saw a couple people go after you, Stephen Jackson included. I don't think you want to smoke with Stephen Jackson. I don't need you miming anything right now, okay? I don't need the mime thing to take place.

20:41Pat McAfee:Okay, yep, not doing it. That's not how quarterbacks operate, brother. You said it yourself. That is not how quarterbacks operate. What? I said what?

20:56This guy's connection sucks. Jeez. Is this real? Is this not a gimmick? Bye, back, ladies and gentlemen. That's Dan Olofsky. Thanks, Dan. That a baby Dan Olofsky.

21:03Pat McAfee:So he was not parabiving? That was actually connection? Oh, my God. I thought he was – that would have been two. I thought he was, yeah. I still gave him way too much credit You gave him way too much credit I thought we worked ourselves into a shoot there Brother No, because his face glitched, unless it was my TV No, you were correct No, he was glitching Please, Jeff, he runs back There he is Alright, this is what happened I did not hear you because My wife went for a run She said, can you pick me up at the beach Which is where she runs to From the house to the beach we because we're dumb we share like a apple iCloud thingamajiggy so she just showed up and her earbuds picked up my phone so you're talking i can't hear you and that's when you saw me go like this i was like yo you got to turn these off because i can't hear it oh so now we're ruining her workout because you guys only have one fucking apple okay all right all right all Just know it's very easy to get more.

22:06Pat McAfee:We thought you were potentially miming there. We thought you were doing the mime thing because of everything that just took place with Shador there. That's what we thought maybe you were doing. That would have been – yeah, yeah, that would have been – you won an Emmy already. That might have, in itself, might have gave you an Emmy there. But let's talk about you dancing on the Mac Jones victory parade, okay? You put the Dan wagon on Mac going to the Shanahan offense, and he would look just like Brock Purdy looks right now was your exact words. And we all laughed in your face because we had seen Mac Jones up there at New England with Matt Patricia, a defense coordinator, as his offense coordinator, and Joe Judge, a special teams coordinator, as his quarterback coach.

22:42Pat McAfee:We've seen the antics of him kicking people in the balls and the way he operated. And we all thought to ourselves, this guy stinks. And his face, I think to him, not to us, obviously we never do that. But I think there is something about the way he looks that some people go, wow, I won't punch him in the face right there. Some people view that that way. I don't think it's fair, but I think Mac Jones probably heard that before. So it was all natural to bury Mac whenever he ended bad in New England, I think, for a lot of people. Then he goes down to Jacksonville, not a lot of fanfare, not a lot of conversation.

23:10Pat McAfee:He goes over to Shanahan and gets this opportunity. He has been fantastic. Do we think that rookie Mac Jones would have been able to handle a Shanahan-like offense if he was the number three overall pick? Do we think Mac Jones is being talked about as one of the greatest quarterbacks in the NFL right now, Do you think he needed everything he went through and got here at the perfect time for this type of situation, Dano, on your victory lap? Yeah, I truly believe if he went to San Francisco at three that year, he would be one of the top, you know, 10 quarterbacks in the NFL. I had felt that. I would say this, though.

23:42I think on the field he would have been able to handle Shanahan's offense. I do think the maturity has absolutely kind of grown. You know, I just was watching you guys play his postgame comments, and we've seen Mac have some bad body language and probably comport himself in ways that he wasn't great when he was younger. So I think that and kind of like the maturity throughout the league or his years has developed. I'll say this off the game last night. That's the best game I've ever seen him play in the NFL. I was blown away how good he was. Like you're throwing all these clips. Dude, the timing of these throws is nuts.

24:23And the crazy thing is they're not like six yard completions. They're all like 16, 18, 24 yard completions that are big time throws. And they're coming right out of his hands. But so many times the ball left his hands before the receivers were like dropping their hips and getting into their cuts. And so it was a, it was a phenomenal game. It's the best game I've ever seen Mac play. And what a freaking win. Like, what a freaking win by the 49ers, man.

24:48Pat McAfee:Here's a Hembo stat for you to go along with the point you just made right there. San Francisco's pass game accounted for 82 % of its yardage last night. They had been 3-13 under Shanahan when that number was 80+. And then Jones to Bourne this season, second time around for those two, right, Conman? Yeah, that was his number one when he was in New England, big time. Okay, so he understands his timing, even though Demarcus Robinson got into the game last night and started making some plays. X-Ram, obviously getting a big time win. Jones, the born this season, 17 of 20, 85 % of his complete completion rate, 212 pass yards and 10.6 yards per attempt.

25:22Pat McAfee:So they're down the field to your point, 12 first downs. And he has a 95.5 QBR that is out of a hundred scale. So whenever you talk about to born, obviously has some familiarity with, but everybody else, he doesn't. I mean, Demarcus Robinson, I forgot he was on the Niners until Kurt Kerbyshry brought his name up yesterday. I actually wrote it down. I'm like, oh, yeah, Demarcus Robinson's on that team. Sprinkled a little bit on Anytime TD on Demarcus Robinson. He was out of bounds. Mack needs to throw that ball better. Mack needs to throw that ball. We're talking about him being great. Yeah, well, my Anytime touchdown does not think that is with Demarcus.

25:55Pat McAfee:But on that note, he doesn't know these guys that much, and he's not getting a lot of one reps out there, right? Isn't that something else to be added into all of this, Dano? Yeah, I think he's got more reps than most backups, obviously, because he's had to play for almost a month now, right? And so I think that's a part of this. I do believe that last night is this kind of walking example of some of the things we often lose sight of when it comes to quarterback play. Obviously, coaching is a massive part of quarterback performance. Like we can definitively say quarterbacks can only play as good as their play caller.

26:30Like that's, they go hand in hand. We saw that last night. And then watching that game, I felt like, re-watching it this morning, it felt like I was re-watching the Dak versus Green Bay game. Because like during it, I'm like, how is the Rams defensive line not getting home? How are they not getting to Mack and sacking him more? And dude, there are so many throws that he cuts the ball. Like they actually win at the defensive line and he cuts it loose right before he gets hit right before he gets hit right. And that was exactly what Dak did against Micah and that Green Bay defensive line. And so I think that is another example of like, dude, how important playing on time is right now at that position.

27:09It minimizes so many things. And then I would shout out their offensive line. Like, again, I'm just talking about how how like how fast or how much playing on time helped him. Their offense that throws ridiculous, dude. Dude, their offensive line was very impressive last night because that Rams defensive front is big time. But, man, it's the example of this quarterback development, quarterback performance. Who would you rather have? Where you go matters. Like, it's another example of that that we have in the NFL of, like, dude, it all matters on the player or for the player how well he can perform.

27:48Pat McAfee:Congrats to you and congrats to Mac. and we've I've asked I asked this question like three four weeks ago like Kyle Shanahan's first first love in this entire thing was Mac if your first love shows up and uh cooking great takes care of every I mean just everything that you could potentially want it just walks into your life it's hard I assume for him not to be like I knew it I fucking knew it you know and then all of a sudden you start thinking like you start thinking but what all is possible you know and And that's going to be a natural conversation that's going to happen with media pundits. I appreciate Mac putting that to sleep, saying, hey, this is Brock Curtis' team.

28:24Pat McAfee:He's getting$200 million, not me. But that is certainly going to be a growing combo if Mac continues the ball like this, at least for trade bait discussions or maybe in the offseason next year. So I love that. And good for you getting a chance to dance on a right take for once. You know, that very rarely happens for you. We're pumped. Dan, that's very rare. Come on, Dan. Good work, Dano. Take your fly, Dano. Come on, Dano. Woo! Here we go. Here we go. Yeah! Yeah! Woo! Wow, dude. Good whistle. Good whistle. Yeah. I got a great one. Peter's about to run in. AJ has a question for you, brother. Dana, what's your opinion on McVay going for it?

29:11Fourth and one in field goal range, going for the win. Also, what is your opinion on the play call? In my opinion, people want to kill the play call. If it works, it works. If you've got to run some trickery and it doesn't work, people are going to say, hey, why don't you just run up the middle? You can get one yard. What's your thoughts on this? Yeah, bad play call, and I love Sean McVay, and I don't need to tell everybody he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. He's one of the most creative coaches in the NFL. Absolutely love going for it. The quarterback, I don't know how you lose that game playing quarterback the way Stafford did.

29:40Let me talk about this stop in overtime, okay? I think the Rams were in like third or fourth in I believe two or less it's like six times they ran that play right there four out of this four out of the six times or four out of the five times they ran the same play AJ on third and one or fourth one four or five times previous of that game the same exact play same exact formation so like in that situation but five times throughout that game. They got into that three-man surface, four-man surface where they had the receiver just off the hip of the tight end and then another receiver outside and they ran duo.

30:20They did it all throughout the game. Now, they convert, I think, on all of them, but the pass to Devontae is the one I'm not counting. On third and one, they threw a ball to Devontae. He doesn't see it the same way. So here's my point. They had this same situation, like short yardage, I think five times in the game. They ran that same play out of the same formation all times, but one. I like, and you see San Francisco, that safety, and I don't want to pronounce his name wrong, but I think it's 36 cycle or Siegel or something, dude, every single time he's downhill on it. Every single time he's downhill on it.

30:55And it's like, dude, I was shocked. I'm shocked that Sean McVay, one of the most creative and great coaches in the NFL. I'm not shocked that he went for it. I'm shocked that he went to the same play that he had gone to so much in that game. That's the thing that I think he's going to sit back and be like, man, I can't believe I did that in that moment. Because usually he's a step ahead of the defense. And you can tell the defense knew what the play was going to be more than likely because of what had happened in that game.

31:22Pat McAfee:Gotta have it. That's literally the most important play. Gotta have it. So he said I blew that game. That's 100 % on me. He took accountability. We assume he will go back to the, what was the name of that movie? beautiful mind, a beautiful mind. Yeah, a beautiful mind when he's got that window. He's just drawing up a bunch of shit. I assume Sean McVay's going to do that because what you're saying is obviously echoed by a lot of people that know play calling and ball and everything, but he knows that too. That was his answer basically was like, I let the team do it. I appreciate though, and Salah, good to see him back, bro.

31:55Pat McAfee:We haven't seen that in a long time. We haven't seen that in a long time. Right there. And Lynch, hey boys, we got nobody on our team. It is obviously a good moment for them, but I appreciate Sean McVay for the good of ball going for that, for the good of ball. Hey, we just had a tie. We just had a tie, Packers-Cowboys. Everybody said we hated it, right? Maybe that's the answer. Team can't go for tie if it's after, like, maybe that's the answer that we need. And maybe Sean McVay is like, if nobody wants to make a rule change, I'll start it. And then maybe on a head coach group text, they'll continue that.

32:31Pat McAfee:So I appreciate him doing that for the good of ball. But we're all surprised that we're not dependent on this one here. Whenever the biggest, most important play of all time, let's get this guy the ball maybe. I would also say, Pat, like their short yardage, like red zone bootleg game or play action pass game is as good as anybody's in the NFL. So like if there was ever a time, Stafford was ridiculous last night. I mean, some of the throws he makes are just absolutely out of his mind. And so I think if you're the Rams, you got to sit back and sit in at three and two and you got to be going, dang, dude, like we're three and two.

33:08And really, because I guess I would say it's like sloppy football. They wasted this game, a division game. Their quarterback, I don't think you can play much better and throw it much better than Stafford did. He probably had like three misses that are misses. But, you know, you lose to the Eagles in many ways because of a sloppy second half and sloppy field goal operation. Then last night, you lose because of a fumble on a toss. You get the same frigging kick block at the same position. The blocked extra point last night is off the same block that the Eagles did. It comes in the same location, man.

33:45So, like, the same block. You miss the extra point. The fumble on the goal line. Dude, that's just.

33:50Pat McAfee:The same four Tom plays. Yeah, it's like the same. It's all like the same. Yeah, you're saying. It's abnormal. It's surprising to think, yeah, and it's like this is one of the most well-run organizations in football. Like I would say one of the most adult-run, you know, like buttoned-up organizations in football. And I think they've got to sit back at 3-2 like, we've lost two games really because of our own destruction. What a play right here, dude. This is unbelievable, though. I mean, you know, the Rams saying they should have won, obviously, two block kicks against the Eagles. Blocked extra point last night.

34:26Pat McAfee:This type of play right here is just devastating to a team, to a Rams team. I experienced this a couple times with the Colts. It didn't get punched out by the other team. They decided to punch it out themselves. Jonathan Taylor last year against the Broncos and AD against the Rams. Devastating just because it's so hard to get there. So hard in the NFL to get there. It is so hard to get there. Like the Patriots a couple weeks back against the Steelers. We had a pick in the end zone. We had a fumble in the end zone. It's like that is devastating to your team. For how hard and how long it takes to get to there, to potentially score a touchdown, to have it just boom, it's like you just held on the ball for a long time and that's kicking the dick.

35:08Pat McAfee:Rams figured it out. Hey, Rams figured it out. Good for the Niners. Good for the Niners. Speaking of figuring things out, out there in Baltimore, they're going to have to figure out what's going on with Lamar. Talk to the table has a question for you. I believe it is Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Dan, obviously it's a little early in the season to talk about must wins and stuff like that. But at this point, you know, through almost the quarter mark, I think you kind of know who you are and you start to see the playoff picture. Now we're hearing Lamar didn't practice again today. There's a chance that, you know, it's probably a likelihood that he's not going to play Sunday.

35:37Are we in like must win territory for the Ravens here? I mean, if they lose another one and slip to one and four and Lamar is more banged up than we thought, like what should we be thinking about the Ravens this weekend? Yeah, no, this is a must win for Baltimore for me. So they play Houston this weekend. And this is my thought on it. You play Houston this weekend. And if you find a way to win this game, and I think they can beat Houston without Lamar. I'll get into like the how. Then they play the Rams next weekend, right? And then the bye. So if you can find a way to win this weekend, and Lamar is somewhat trending towards being better next week, but probably not where you want them, then you can realistically sit there and say, okay, we got the win.

36:22We're at two and three. we would love for Lamar to play, but we really want two weeks of more health and break on that hammy. Let's try to win another without him. Cause at worst case, if you win this week, you get to two and four because of the way that things are shaking up in their division. And I think is the AFC as a whole, I still don't think at two and four, they're out of it. Especially if they're able to take that three week break with Lamar, get him healthy. I obviously they've got problems on their football team. as far as the execution and I think some philosophical things. But I think this is a must win.

36:58Now, how do they do it? Persecution?

37:01Pat McAfee:Well, I just think like... You talking about Chuck Pagan? No, I got no problems with Chuck. No problems with Chuck Pagan. You know, like... Well, yeah, so I would say this. There's no team in the NFL that has given the ball to their running backs less on first and second down than the Baltimore Ravens. so on first and second down the running back that's got the least amount of carries in the nfl is derrick henry at that for me why dan why is that happening why are they giving the ball yeah aj i don't know like i don't know and todd monken's a phenomenal i mean they have a historically great offense last year so is it because they think the defense is struggling and so like you're trying to just you know score points as much as possible first down is the easiest down in the nfl able to throw the ball.

37:48So are they being aggressive throwing the ball on early downs? So I believe in that philosophy, but like having the least amount of carries on first and second down, I'm not saying we have to have the most, but we have Derrick Henry. I think last week against the Chiefs, I think he had five carries on first and second down. So that's the philosophy thing. So like, how do they beat Houston? I think they got to obviously 25 plus carries for Derrick Henry got a big deal. Got to be a big deal. They got to be really good with the play action, even if Lamar's not in there. And so I think they can beat Houston, but I do believe it's a must win.

38:20But they got to remember who they are. Remember who you are offensively.

38:25Pat McAfee:A lot of people out, bro. Put this up, Jameson Henley, I believe he reports for the Ravens, put up that there's seven guys out, and they're all names that we know. These are all good to know. Yes, so is all of them. I mean, all of those are huge names, let alone the D-tackle Matabike, who just is out for the season. I mean, it's not good over there, but I believe in the Ravens' culture after watching them on Hard Knocks. But maybe their philosophies need to change, and also maybe they're not giving him the ball because he fumbled fourth quarter two games in a row. A lot of people on the Internet are saying maybe he's getting punished for that.

39:00Pat McAfee:It's like, well, what got you to the fourth quarter? This guy rushed for 185 yards. Maybe we do that again. Speaking of teams that win games and not everybody's happy, Tone has a question about some Johns down there in the city of brotherly love. Yeah, I do, Dan. I know there's two 4-0 teams in the NFL, and one of them is the Philadelphia Eagles, and they are 29th in the league in yards per rush and 31st in the league in yards passing per game, and I think 138 yards a game. But they're still 4-0, but there's the stuff with A.J. Brown. And they've got to get Saquon. What do you think about the Philadelphia Eagles offense so far this season?

39:35What's different than last year? Yeah, not the Pennsylvania team I thought you were going to ask me about, so I'm a little bit disappointed. I'm not getting in a fight over it. No, we don't need it. You came out and you said, hey, they went six offensive linemen. They had Darnell Washington doing it right. We're good, Dan. We're on good terms. Hold on, Dan. Hold on, Dan.

39:54Pat McAfee:Hold on. I don't want to get into the whole victory lap thing. Dan's taking a big-time victory lap about Mac Jones, isn't he? Absolutely. He's just out there doing his thing. He just bought the shirt from a tent outside of the stadium. Oh, God. Yeah. Look at that camera, God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. We were eating at Ramma Jamma with Josh Chapman, and then there's tents outside in between Ramma Jamma and the stadium, and Gumpy just goes out there, and all of a sudden he comes back like it's a merch store. There's a Daytona 500 Dale Earnhardt merch shop outside of Ramma Jamma.

40:28Pat McAfee:Wow. Near the stadium. It is beautiful. He's taking a victory lap with that thing, isn't he, with the old Mac Jones? Yeah, I was wondering about his Justin Fields MVP take. Oh,

40:39Pat McAfee:what about your Steelers going 0-6? You want to talk about the other Pittsburgh team? You called them going 0-6. That just got brought up a couple days ago. So the Mac Jones thing, pretty good, because all of Pittsburgh was taking all of the steel that we've created for the entire world and just blasting you right in the shin and balls with that 0-6 thing. Now, you don't have to respond. Okay, you'll say, who's before the head of Aaron Rodgers? I've got to respond. What's that? Why can't I respond? I said that comment. Because it's all bullshit. Dan, you did say it before Aaron was on the team, but don't pretend after Aaron was signed that you were like, oh, this is it.

41:18I literally did a preseason show July 26th and picked the seven AFC playoff teams and picked the Steelers in the playoffs. You smell that? You only did that in case. I smell it. Oh, yeah, I smell it. You smell it? Yeah, it reeks right now.

41:35Pat McAfee:I'm in Alabama. I don't know if you guys can smell it. What state are you in, Dan? What state's that? I'm in Connecticut, and I was right on the Steelers. P.U. Isn't that crazy that from Connecticut to Indiana with the boys in the Thunderdome, you guys can smell it, right? Oh, yeah. And I'm down here in Alabama. Bullshit. All of it. Just absolutely everything. There's none of it. Absolute shite coming. Manor. Manor coming through the TV down here. Brand new tunnel, Dan. They just opened this thing two weeks ago. And there's bullshit right in. Steelers fans have been killing me. Jersey Jerry DM'd me last night and goes, are you going to own up to your 0-6 Steelers take?

42:16I said, which one? Good question, Jersey Jerry. Good question. And he said, 0-6. And I go, I said that when Aaron wasn't on the team. Once he got on the team, I picked him to make the playoffs. He goes, I did not know that. My bad.

42:29Pat McAfee:No, Jersey. Don't back off, Jersey Jerry. No, no, no. That is. Okay. I hope he gets a microphone and he doesn't back off. Let's go. Sorry, Tone. Go ahead, Tone. I'm sorry, Tone. It's Phil. Let's talk about the other side of the state. Obviously, Pennsylvania is a football state. Need to be Oregon, but Pennsylvania is a football state. Go ahead, Tone. I was going to B-rabbit Dan real quick and say, yeah, they've been outgamed by 200 yards and two of their wins or whatever. And, you know, the offensive line has looked great and the run defense hasn't looked great. But, you know, they're still 3-1.

42:55So that's okay, Dan, and we're just going to move on to the Eagles question. Okay? All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is my thoughts on Philadelphia. I think right now running the football is a struggle for them in between the tackles. I think they miss Mekhi Becton. If their offense doesn't improve, it will get them beat. No team in the NFL has more negative runs than the Philadelphia Eagles. Coming off of a historic run season. No team has more negative runs than Eagles. They lead the NFL. And most of it is in between the tackles. I think like last year, Hembo sent me numbers. in between the tackles, I think Saquon averaged like five and a half yards per carry.

43:33This year is like one and a half yards per carry. So then the connective part of that is, well, the pass game, I would tell you this. I think AJ Brown is being asked to do, I would call them like high school routes type of stuff. He basically just is running in straight lines. And there's a beauty to that. No, there's a beauty to that. Like AJ is such a physically dominant player. It's like, hey, run a go route, run a stop route. I just think that they can ask him to run more routes than that. And so I think his route tree is a little minimized. And then I'd say this. I think Jalen's become a very risk-averse quarterback.

44:10And so, you know, three years ago when AJ was like one-on-one, I think Jalen wouldn't give him a lot of opportunities to catch the ball. And I don't think that Jalen is doing that right now down the field. I think when A.J.'s down the field one-on-one, Jalen's very much so protecting that throw and not putting the ball even remotely close into harm's way. So I do think it can improve, but it's going to have to get better. It'll get them beat. Dano, Carson Wentz, quick pivot here. Carson Wentz playing in London, has about half the roster out. It feels like they are hurt. What do you think they can do?

44:46Can they find a way to get a win over this Browns team? Dude, their defense in Minnesota is going to have, I think that like this game feels like 13-10. Minnesota's offensive line, specifically the left guard and center are really struggling big time. And you're going against one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. And so this is a huge challenge for Minnesota offensively to try to, I think, generate some positive yardage. Try to get points on the board any means necessary. you do not want to give the football away because you want to ride your defense in this game. And so, you know, what quarterback, what offense values the ball the most?

45:23I think this is just like a low-scoring, ugly football game because Minnesota's offensive line is so beat up. And obviously playing against that defense in Minnesota with a rookie quarterback in Cleveland and an offense that's really devoid of talent. So I think whatever offense is kind of like that. Jared Judy's on that.

45:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, you need to watch your mouth then. Jerry Judy's our favorite football player. Jerry Judy's a good player. He's a great player. The total for the – Go ahead. No, I was going to say the total for this game is 35.5, by the way, which I believe is the lowest of the season. I'm taking over. Okay, me too. On that note, I would like to – obviously I wanted to get into your thoughts on Dylan Gabriel and how he's going to do and what your expectations are for him. But I also would like to follow up with, you think the Carson Wentz experience against his Cleveland Browns defense isn't going to generate at least 14 points for the Browns?

46:17Pat McAfee:For somebody. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm a little, you know, like, again, I'm a little bit concerned against this defense. You know, Carson does like to hold the football a little bit and be a playmaker. Yeah, be a playmaker. Yeah, I agree. Is this the one where he throws it? Yeah, great play. So we are fans of this. We think it's electrifying for football. We've actually pitched that he should be a – this one. Two people plus a – the ball's out. The ball's out. So, I've pitched the last week. Carson Wentz needs to be a starter on a football team that is debuting in a new country. That interception's not his fault, guys.

46:58Pat McAfee:Of course, of course, of course, of course. It's just part of the whole thing. It's part of the whole thing. It's part of the experience. Yeah, it's literally – There's good plays in there, too. Boom, look at that. That's unbelievable. The first play, you didn't comment on it because you didn't know what we were doing. Run, no look, sidearm to Justin Jefferson. Great play. Then he got somebody. Then he got somebody. That's the best. You know, so he needs to be a starter on a team that is playing in a new country. Whoever goes to Australia should be required to have Carson Wentz as one of the team's starters because it's the most electrifying style of football.

47:31Pat McAfee:Every play could be a touchdown. Bingo. Yes, exactly. That is 100 % right. So this Cleveland Browns defense, I think not only any time touchdown, but maybe touchdowns from this Cleveland Browns defense over there. But also on that note, Carson might throw four tuts. He might go for 400 yards against this Browns defense because it just makes no sense, and that's a part of the experience. Let's go with Dylan Gabriel, though. Obviously, a lot has been talked about with him being 5 '11". Third-round draft pick. Who knows how he's been able to actually handle and compartmentalize all the drama with the fifth-round draft pick.

48:04Pat McAfee:Shador Sanders that's been there, but who cares about any of that whenever he gets on the field? What should be realistic expectations of this Dylan Gabriel? I know B-Flow's defense is good. Everybody's defense is good except for like maybe one or two teams. How should we view him as a rookie starter here, and what are your expectations? Yeah, I think my expectations are low and realistic because of, one, that defense he's going against is fantastic, and so if he's not good on early downs, getting the ball out of his hands like right now, and they're not efficient yards after the catch, he's going to get in.

48:36And this offense will get themselves into trouble. We all know that because of this blitz package. I think the number one thing is how much they move him and how much they go play action. That's really been the problem with this offense is it's the fundamental starting point is the play action part of it. That's Stefanski's offense. It just hasn't been good enough this year. And so how well he operates that. And that was probably the thing that was surprising in the preseason was how good he did in that because he didn't do a lot of it in college. They're going to have to move him because to help try to just get him away from some of those rushers, I think the screen game is huge for them.

49:10I think the completion game just get the ball out of his hands early and try to get some yards after the catch is going to be a really big deal. I don't want to be disrespectful, but this isn't the most talented offensive roster in the NFL. We know that. There's Judy's on that team. Remember? He's a good player, but I think there are two other, because Tillman's hurt, there are two other receivers I think are young kids in Jamari Thrash and Isaiah Bond so like you got young players now fanning their young tight end has been awesome with him and Njoku are good players together and so but you're not going out there with like a ton of firepower and so I think it's just realistic that I think there will be good moments but I would expect some some certain

49:51Pat McAfee:struggles going against that defense 9 30 a.m we can't wait to watch that on NFL Network we hope Olsen is on the call again. He was fantastic to wake up with. And the Vikings two-game international run could be two L's, even though they made this decision, allegedly, because they didn't want to play in Pittsburgh or in Cleveland. Let's just go and do the international games back-to-back. Could come back 0-2. Still believe in KOC. Okay, let's pivot away from that. Let's talk about the biggest news of the day. Life of a Showgirl, 12 songs. I like Cancelled is my favorite if I had to get into it.

50:24Pat McAfee:Actually, romantic. Also awesome. And I think Wood is about Travis Kelsey's. So, hey. Is it graphic? I'm not 100 % sure if there's full descriptors in it. Just from my gathering, my intel, my wife tried to brief me on the way out this morning on what she stayed up last night and listened to. I would like to let people know that we are massive Taylor Swift fans. And also, the way Taylor Swift was kind of treated by the music industry, I think the way she views it, is very similar to how I think the sports media world has viewed us. So I take a lot of the things she says in her messaging, in her diary, in journalism as like who's afraid of little old me you should be is like a gangster-ass song.

51:02Pat McAfee:Especially if you've been in a position where you've walked into a suit's office and told them to go fuck themselves. So I am a massive fan of Taylor Swift. Congrats to her. On that note, Can't See Chiefs might be all the way. The movie tonight. My daughter was up at 6 o 'clock in the morning playing the album. I think she's... Like there's a movie that documents the tour or something? Yes. Or the album make? She's going tonight. Of course. She's playing 60 chess. There's 40 chess. She is always doing it. On that note, Andy Reid might be with the Kansas City Chiefs. They might be all the way back.

51:35Pat McAfee:Connor has the last question for you here, Dano. Yeah, Dano, first of all, I really do want to give you gruff, but you were right about Mac Jones, so hats off to you, Bill Belichick. Yikes. What do you think about the Chiefs right now, Dano? It feels as though they're kind of hitting their stride a little bit here. Rasheed Rice comes back in three weeks, whatever, week seven, and they're 2-2. So it looks like they're going to be around.500, kind of get Rasheed back. You saw how much it mattered, getting Worthy back last week. Is there a chance here that everyone was burying the Chiefs the first two weeks and then they're about to just rip off 15 games in a row, especially with Taylor Swift's new showgirl bumping through Arrowhead on Sundays?

52:17Yeah, if they stylistically and scheme-wise do what they did this past week, yeah. So if you were to ask me what teams I loved watching the most this past week offensively, when it comes to doing things differently, it was Kansas City, it was Pittsburgh. You talked about Pittsburgh and the six offensive linemen, and the Washington on there, I think that was like 16 snaps of it. I have been begging for Kansas City to just play a little bit of throwback football to help them, you know put the quarterback under center go a little bit more play action I think 17 times this past weekend they put Patrick underneath the center a couple times also with six offensive linemen I just think it calms them down a little bit and allows them to have an efficient run game I don't they're not going to be this crazy explosive run team right now and so um you know I think that like for me that was a big deal and I know it's not a ridiculous amount of snaps but that alone it gave them efficiency in the in the run game it got Patrick on the move a little bit off his spot it gave them a couple easy completions it allowed them to protect him a little bit and then they hit a couple of those shots downfield so like if that's what they're gonna be offensively and again this is doesn't it's not like there's remaking of identity I just am of the belief and I know people disagree with me I know there's coaches who think I want to get I'm fired because of me saying this.

53:40It's not. I just don't think you can live in the gun world 90 % of the time right now. And I think the Chiefs kind of morphing a little bit last week doing that. I'm very – that was my favorite game plan of the Chiefs in, like, the past two seasons just because of the way it looked. Who were you trying to get fired there?

53:57Pat McAfee:Just in the back of your mind, who was it that you were saying should not have a job anymore? I'm not trying – like, I have such great respect for these coaches. I'm not trying to get fired. All of them? Every one of them? Okay, all of them? Okay, yeah, all right, never mind. Dan, have an incredible weekend. We appreciate the hell out of you. You crushed it this week on television. We love watching. Make sure you get your hydration in. We appreciate you. Tua told us that. All right, boys. Carbs. You guys are the best, man. Carbs and water. Carb up, too. No concussions. No carbs. No carbs. Well, you're going to get a concussion in.

54:25Pat McAfee:Yeah. Watch that head of yours. We need that brain to give out a lot of takes, and some of them, Mack Jones would be Brock Purdy. We can celebrate. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Olofsky. Hey, Dan Olofsky. For the first hour ends, we have to hit it. Shout out to Dan Orlovsky. Ty Schmidt, huge day in baseball. Tigers get a win over the Guardians. They go. Cubs get a win over Slam Diego. And the Yankees beat the Red Sox, and none of us saw it. Ty, what happened last night? Congrats to your Yankees. Thank you very much. Put up or shut up game. Let's get right to it in the bottom of the fourth.

54:56Ahmed Rosario with an RBI single off Conley early to score Cody Bellinger for the first run of the game. And this was kind of the story here. The fourth inning, the Yankees got all their runs. Anthony Volpe hit a little seeing-eye single the other way. They scored Giancarlo Stanton and played another one. And, you know, the Red Sox kind of fell apart a little bit. Austin Wells chops one to first base. Nathaniel Lowe, he can't hang on to it. It scored an error, and the Yankees score two more runs to go to 4-0. And then let's move ahead to the top of the eighth. They're up 4-0. Cam Schlittler induces a pop-up, and with Shades, the Jeter's dive in 2004.

55:36Ryan McMahon goes over the railing into the Red Sox dugout. This will be a play Yankees fans circle and rewatch for years and years to come. Just unbelievable. Absolutely sells out. I mean, if he doesn't get caught there, he's probably breaking his back. It was nice they caught him. It was very nice that they caught him because we're going to need that guy. You can see, you know, very reminiscent of Jeter. This wasn't in the playoffs. This was just a regular season game against the Red Sox. but still selling out, going into the crowd, getting cut up. That was great. And then finally, in the top of the ninth, the Yankees bring in the guy we talked about yesterday, the Pittsburgh boy, David Bednar, and he channels his inner Troy Palamalu, shuts the door.

56:22Yankees win 4-0. But the big story here, Pat, is Cam Schlittler, the kid who pitched for the Yankees. He's a rookie. He's made like nine starts this year. He's from Walpole, Massachusetts. Grew up a Red Sox fan And he had arguably one of the best Outings in the history of the postseason Wow! Yeah, crazy Eight innings pitched, 12 strikeouts No walks, he goes Right to the closer, and he's throwing Over 100 all night, and it was pretty personal Because people were talking shit to his mom On Twitter all day

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58:08Here we go, hour two of the Pat McAfee Show. I'm AJ Hawk sitting in for Pat here at his desk in Indianapolis. He's down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Huge matchup tomorrow. Bandy, Alabama. Football! It's the name of the game. Obviously last night, Pat, the 49ers get a big win in overtime. 26-23. Yankees move on. Baseball is happening. Pat, what's going on? How you doing? Good.

58:35Pat McAfee:Did you take your ears out there? Did you take your ears out right back in there? Yeah, I had a little situation getting these guys back in as we came back. You're right. You noticed that. Well, I appreciate your hand on that. Good adversity there. I never take them out because my ears are so weird. It normally causes a problem, though, because with these in, you can't hear anything that the humans are saying. For instance, there's a bathroom right here. This is maybe the greatest setup that I've had to go to the bathroom. Coming back in, there's some questions coming from down the hall. Mostly like, hey, when are we allowed to fucking walk through here?

59:00Pat McAfee:You know, a lot of that stuff. So I just keep the ears in. You know, ha, ha, ha, do a lot of that. Ha, ha, ha. Do that at game day, too. A lot of ha, ha, ha, which I actually can't hear them. But I always try to do, like, hey, super positive stuff. Good to see you. Good to see you. So you even taking that out during a three-minute break, I thought was a nice, confident, aggressive decision. And I appreciate you traveling to Indianapolis on this glorious feel-good Friday. Obviously, I wish I was there with you and the boys. The toxic table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Con, man, we heard Ty rattle off what happened in the fourth inning.

59:30Pat McAfee:and then obviously Bednar coming in with the Renegade. And Schlitter, is that his name? He said. Schlittler. Schlittler. Okay. Well, consider me Schlitt City native. Okay. I love this dude. I also appreciate the fact he's from Boston, and he wasn't scared to say afterwards, like, yeah, it was Boston's fault basically this whole thing happened. It got personal for me after some hometown chirping. Okay. My mom's getting attacked. I'm not going to get into it. But there's a line I think they crossed it quite a bit. I'm a competitor, and I'm going to go out there and make sure I shut them down. You know Boston's fans.

1:00:01Pat McAfee:That's just how it is. We're aggressive back home, and we're going to try to get under people's skin. They just happened to pick the wrong guy to do it to and the wrong team to do it to. Then there's a video of him walking off in between innings, and he actually, I believe, mouse. It looked like front Boston or. Nope, he says fuck Boston right there. That is his hometown. Connor, you obviously Boston sports fan. It is a gift and a curse. You know, you can wake people up with how good of a shit talker you are. Feels like that potentially happened to Schlitt City here, pal. Yeah, Schlittler, look, I mean, I am happy for him.

1:00:40The fourth inning was a great inning. It was the only inning I watched. But I told Ty before this started, as someone who is a Sox fan, of course I want Boston to win. But I know, personally, it won't bring me as much happiness as it brings Ty. So I'm not as bummed out. However, Schlittler bitching and moaning. I get it. Okay. Hold on. I get it. All right. I love that he found motivation in this and fuck Boston and all that stuff. I love it. This kid is a little bit of a wuss. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where he's. I don't know where he's from in mass. Need to. Walpole. You're talking about his mom.

1:01:18Need to know what side of Walpole. He's a Rory McIlroy fan, too. Well, okay. See, that's just standard stuff. I'm not a Schlittler. You're starting to talk shit on him right now?

1:01:29Pat McAfee:It's exactly what I think he was talking about. He's like, you know, obviously there is a chance that they could be proud of the Boston boy right now. Clinching game for the New York Yankees. One of their own is out there doing it. But we all understand from sports towns that that's just not how it's going to go. It's going to get even more personal whenever you're from there. I appreciate the fact that he said, Yup, I was about sick of seeing everything that they were saying about my family, my mother. And I went out there with a chip on my shoulder. I hope he's able to find that with Toronto, I believe is who they play next.

1:01:59Pat McAfee:Blue Jays, I hope maybe somebody in Canada goes, Hey, your mom got you something. Your mom stinks, buddy. Your mom's meatloaf's not good. Yeah, because he was electric to watch, Ty. I mean, this dude, he's been good. You said nine starts this guy's had. I just watched the highlights. I didn't see the game either. Connor, there's football on. That's going to be the decision every single time. I did see multiple TV setups for people and everything like that. but this dude's electrifying, huh, Ty? And the whole pitching crew, there's a picture of them from the locker room afterwards, and I look through it, I'm like, I did not know this was the Yankees Aces.

1:02:36Pat McAfee:I had no idea that this was the New York Yankees Aces. Are you guys going to be able to win? Is this group, is this stable about the Winter World Series for the Yankees? Is that how we feel after getting through the Red Sox series, Ty? A little. I mean, if he pitches like he did last night, because that was what Alex Cora said, but the Red Sox manager said that after the game. He was basically just like, he was perfect tonight, and we had to be perfect, and we weren't. So that's why we're moving on. Anytime you – I mean, it's not the same thing as Skeens, who kind of right when he came up is throwing over 100 early in the game, just striking out guys left and right seems unhittable.

1:03:11But, yeah, I mean, he got called up on July 9th this year, and the question kind of the whole season was, hey, is this guy going to be involved in the postseason at all? We're not quite sure. and then it was, you know, oh, he could be a good piece for the bullpen. And then finally down the stretch, he pitched unbelievable. So it was like, you know what? No, he's going to get the deciding game three against his hometown team. And, yeah, you could see, I mean, he was – very few guys are throwing it 100-plus still in the eighth inning, and he was, and just any time they, you know, had any kind of threat, he squashed it immediately, just a grade A competitor.

1:03:48And then, yeah, he's kind of the one guy who you didn't really know who you were going to get. So they still have Max Fried, the guy they paid all the money to, and Carlos Rodon, who they paid a bunch of money to. But at the end of the day, this is kind of window dressing. You obviously hope a guy can go out and do this, but the Yankees' formula for winning is to hit more home runs and kind of just suffocate people early on. And they didn't really do that in this series, which I think is why a lot of Yankees fans are enthused about it because they're just scoring runs on singles. It was, hey, your pitching has to be better than Boston's pitching during this series, and it ultimately was.

1:04:26But now it's, hey, the Blue Jays and the Yankees are in the same division. They've played each other a bunch of times. They know how to beat them. So it'll be very interesting to see how that goes. But, yeah, for me, I mean, shit, I'm thinking World Series or bust.

1:04:40Pat McAfee:Okay, and let's go to the back room. Evan Fox, congrats to your Tigers getting a huge win. And they said you guys were sliding, going to kind of maybe be the worst drop in the history of baseball alongside. And then you guys get a massive win. Congrats to you guys. Wow. That's just what this team does. That's what this city does. They're just gritty. So when they have one of the worst schneids of all time, it doesn't matter. We're in the big dance. We're moving on. Feed me big dumper, baby. Let's go, boys. I'm really pumped up about it. You want the big dump. The big dump has been sitting on his big dump.

1:05:12Pat McAfee:So I think he's going to be a little rusty, and we're coming for him. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. You gave a stat there about the sportsbooks winning on a regular basis. Can you reiterate what that is as we look ahead to this weekend and inevitably make our own picks, Tone? So going into last night, games where 60 % or more of the public was on a certain side. The public was 10-24 against the spread, which was 29%. We didn't exactly get to that 60 % last night. We got to 58 % for the Rams. So, I mean, if you want to round up there now, 10-25, the public is against the spread on, let's call it, 58 % or more of the bets this season.

1:05:58So not good for the public so far this year. Really good for the sportsbooks.

1:06:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's seemingly every goddamn year. Yes, it is. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a living legend, a goat, an icon, a man whose field is named after him that I'm staring at right now. Seven-time national champion, college game day Emmy award winner, friend of the program, still lives in town, ladies and gentlemen, Nick Saban. Yay! Oh! Yeah! Yeah!

1:06:40Come on, Coach! Come on, Coach!

1:06:50He's juiced.

1:06:54Pat McAfee:He's real fired up. So a little different than coming down the tunnel for a game. So this is brand new, they said. They said this is brand new. All the designs and everything like that. Is that accurate sentiment here? They kind of – they just did this, I believe, two weeks ago they debuted this. You won all these, so you should know, I guess. News to me, but it looks good. Looks great. It certainly does look good. I didn't think about the post-walk down the hallway motion. This is me on the PTZ right now, Coach Saban. I don't know if you can see it. I've got a pretty good little touch here. I'm going to try to center us around a roll tag.

1:07:34Pat McAfee:I've given out 400 Roll Tides. That is the common greeting around here, I assume. And how many do you give out daily? Common greeting. And it's something that's, you know, you got to get used to. Because when I first came here, probably 20 years ago, and everybody says Roll Tide as if they're saying hello. Yes. So that's just how you learn to respond. Yeah, you got to do that. I mean, it just is what it is. I went into Ramma Jamma this morning. So many. Roll tight. Roll tight. Roll tight. Two eggs, bacon, grits, biscuit. Thank you. Roll tight. Roll tight. Coffee. Is it hot? Of course. Give me one of those.

1:08:13Pat McAfee:And then Josh Chapman's there with me. Obviously, you know Josh Chapman. He's one of the greatest teammates I've ever had. Nose tackle for the Indianapolis Colts. I think he's a four-time national champion now. Two-time as a player. Two-time as a coach and member of the staff here at Alabama. I believe he's one of your favorite players of all time, if I had to guess. He's one of my favorite teammates of all time. He ordered – he's 380 pounds right now. He can still move. Don't you worry about it. He can still move. He was eating a lot of grits. He was getting after it. It was – the Southern hospitality felt very real here.

1:08:45Pat McAfee:And also, plastered all over the wall is ball, just photos of football. This entire city revolves around football. Obviously, Bear Bryant had great history. But what you were able to build here is very special. You still live here. Do you take it in? Are you getting a chance now that you're retired as the coach? go shake hands, kiss babies, and understand what you did not only for this university, but economically to this entire city, bro. You've done so much here. I hope you take that in and really enjoy that and celebrate that at some point. Well, we had a lot of people contribute to it through the years.

1:09:17So I feel special that we were able to have championship teams and teams that people could be proud of and were excited about and that impacted the university and the state in a very positive way. But, you know, Miss Terry and I, we're just kind of, you know, your legacy is what you leave behind. Hopefully we leave something behind, but now we're doing something completely different, building a children's learning center. So we're focused on that. Where's that? Is that here? Yeah, it's being built where the old Tuscaloosa building was, tore it down, building a big children's learning center.

1:09:57Pat McAfee:You're a good man. You and Miss Terry are great people, genuinely. I want you to know that getting a chance to learn about you as a human and meet you as a person and Miss Terry in your entire operation, you're as real and as authentic as it gets, brother. And you're a special one that humans have, especially in the sports world. Let's talk about this game tomorrow. Vandy, pretty noted on this show. Was that last year we were in Oklahoma, boys? Yeah, I believe so. Everywhere is hard to play in the SEC, all right, except for Vandy. then Vandy beats Alabama and it goes absolutely crazy and it's not it wasn't just a like kind of a flash in the pan for this Vandy team it feels like with the NIL with the transfer portal how awesome Nashville is and their education I think is very good down there Vandy as well it's like they're becoming like a real team and I think that's an upside of the NIL and transfer portal where we're seeing it right in front of our eyes here yeah I don't think there's any question about it this is a lot better Vanderbilt team this year than what they had last year last year to me it was the Diego Pavia show.

1:10:56He ran it. They did quarterback runs. He dominated the game. He dominates the game now in a different way because, to me, he makes every player on his team better because he's a much better passer. He went from 57 % to 70 % completion. He's got better skill guys, better runner. I think they're a little better on defense. So this is a real team to me. And this guy is a tremendous playmaker. He's like a point guard out there. So this is going to be a real challenging game. I think the big thing is, you know, you talk about what's people's perception. And, you know, you have this perception of Vanderbilt being an academic school that's always struggled in the SEC, especially in football.

1:11:35Pat McAfee:Absolutely. That's not the case anymore. But it's hard to get that perception out of your head. I mean, they beat South Carolina at South Carolina. I mean, this is a good football team. Great football team. They also went into, I think, Virginia Tech in the second half and handled them last year. Obviously, a lot of upsets. But you talk about the perception of what Vandy is. it's hard to sell fan bases, especially in the SEC, Alabama fan bases. Like, hey, this is not Vandy. This is a very good Vandy football team. How do you think the people of Alabama feel about a game against Vandy being a game-day game?

1:12:07Pat McAfee:Do you think there is more respect for the Vandy team, or do you think that's going to take a while for people to get to? Because the Boers, I assume, wanting you to tell everybody, hey, this is a good Vandy team. This is a very good Vandy football team. because optically, to your point, would not be great for this Alabama team. But Vandy can definitely come in here and get one if they – All right, so there's two things here if you want me to be honest. Yes, I would. There's perception, which the perception of the Alabama folks after being here for all these years is win every game. Yeah, they got all these.

1:12:38All right, first of all, it don't make any difference if it's Vandy, Florida, Georgia, it doesn't matter. We expect to win every game. I like that standard. You know, some people that bothers. But I'd hate to coach at a place that didn't have a standard and didn't have an expectation that you're going to win the game. That's one. Two, I do think that the Alabama folks have a much better respect for Vandy because of last year, even though we didn't play very well, turned the ball over. And I think it's going to be really important in this game that we control the tempo of the game. We need to keep the ball on offense, run it a little better, because the one thing Vandy's defense is going to be able to do is they get you in third down now.

1:13:18They have really good pressure package, and they're bringing people from everywhere. So Ty's going to have to handle that. But if we can run the ball, if Alabama can run the ball and have more balance on offense, because even at Georgia, we didn't run the ball that great. We just converted third downs. 13 for 19, 8 for 8 to start the game. So that was the difference in the game. Whether it was third and 8, third and 11, didn't matter. We converted third downs. I don't think you want to sort of make that your M.O. as a team. I think you want to have balance because, you know, it's going to be tough to contain Vanderbilt the whole time, so keep the ball away from the guy.

1:13:57Pat McAfee:You talk about not wanting to be your identity as a team that just gets third downs because that's like a three-point shooting team. Now, granted, if you've got Steph Curry, whenever push comes to shove and you don't get a couple of those, all of a sudden you're shit out of luck. Shit out of luck. There it is. You got it. Or it doesn't matter. It runs faster than shit through a tin horn. Yeah. Or any of the other. Well, that's what, you know, when you got bad defense, that's what happens. They run through you like shit through a ten horn. Why are you putting it through there? Yeah, that's. Why is it in the ten horn?

1:14:29Pat McAfee:Can we explore this a little bit more? Yeah, how's it going? Yeah, because you said this on game day last year, and obviously it caused quite a, I mean, all of our brains were just like, oh, that's hilarious. I can see that going. So that's like diarrhea. They're not really like a big thick. You're not mushing it through there, are you? Because if you've got a log, the horn. It'll visualize a trumpet and shit goes right through it. So it's a big horn. The person's sick. What did they eat, though? Yeah. Let's move along. Let's move along. Please, let's move along. AJ has a question for you, Coach.

1:15:06Coach, with the Georgia Bulldogs, if you're a Kirby, what's he telling his team? Obviously, they lose a big one to Alabama. What do you tell them to make sure this thing isn't a multiple-week kind of hiccup and you know everything is still out in front of you? Well, I think Kirby probably a little bit disappointed in the big plays they've given up on defense. That's not typically how they play and what they do. Obviously, the issue in the game last week was not getting off the field in third down. If you take all the other parts of their defense and say, how do we play in the game, they played really well.

1:15:42I mean, they stopped the run. They affected the quarterback to some degree, even though they didn't get sacks. But they couldn't get off the field on third down. So they've got to have a better plan for that, and the players have to do a better job of executing it. I think Gunner, you know, has to settle down even more. There were times in a game where I think he aborted to play when he didn't need to so that they can play with a little bit more consistency. And, you know, the fourth and one stop in the game was huge. So, you know, there's three or four critical plays in a game that are going to make a difference in a game, and that fourth and one that they didn't make when they could have tied the game with a field goal was critical in the game.

1:16:20So I don't think George is that far off, and I think this was one of those measuring stick games that, okay, we're not that far off. Alabama's not that bad. We didn't lose to a bad team. All right, what do we got to do to get better? And I think Kirby's really good at that, and I think his team will respond well to a loss. Honestly, I think when you win all the time at home, that it gets to the point where I always thought as a coach that it wasn't always an advantage to play at home because there's lots of distractions. A lot of them. And then when you win all the time, the players start thinking, we're playing at home, we're going to win.

1:16:59So they lose respect for what it takes to win, regardless of where you're playing, because they just think, well, we got the crowd, we got all this, were just going to show up and make it happen. It doesn't work out that way, especially when you're playing pretty good teams. And they won, what, 30-some games in a row at home? So maybe their players were a little complacent about that.

1:17:17Pat McAfee:33. 33 games at home. Washington had 22. They both go down in the same weekend. I wonder what history has to say about that, the two longest home winning streaks going down in the same exact weekend. I appreciate you pointing out, like, hey, when you win that many games at home in a row, people get comfortable because you've probably done it like 14 different times. You are absurd. You know that. You are absurd. And I heard about those five games. I heard about those five games. You shouldn't let your players give books to people. That's disgusting. That is absolutely disgusting what he did here.

1:17:46Pat McAfee:I want to let you know that. They took five games away from him. Do you know this? Did you know this story? No. It happened. First year he was here, they found out, he and his staff found out that some of his players were either utilizing their scholarship money or something to give books to other people, giving books away. and maybe they were getting like$20 or whatever. They found out about$500 in total is what it was. Three years of probation for the team and five losses taken away. That was like his first year here. Did you know that? Yeah, but there's a story. There's always a story behind the story.

1:18:18You know, when I came here, we were the only team, you know, some of you guys that are older, we had loan of books in college instead of they bought you your books and you could keep them at the end. So the old way of scholarships back when I played them, we were still antiquated that way here at Alabama. So we were going to change from loan of books, where you had to turn your books in at the end of the semester on scholarship, to just buying the books for the players and let them keep them. So we did an audit, and that's how we found out internally that there was a few guys that were buying track guys' books that weren't on scholarship.

1:18:55So you've got to give them credit for having compassion, but it was against the rules, and we got nailed for it. If you look at it, though, it's really – and what's happened in this day and age of football today, you're talking about the ultimate mouse manure when you're up to yours in elephant's turn. Ultimate.

1:19:15Pat McAfee:Well said, Coach. Yeah, that's kind of the NCAA's thing, though, brother. That's kind of their – or it was. Uh-oh. Fly over. Come on, Caramon. We're in a tunnel. We can't get it. We heard you, though. So if whoever's flying that plane is a watcher of the show, which I've learned is a pretty good majority of them, that sounded cool. We didn't get to hear it, but it sounded very, very cool. Speaking of losing and having bounce-back capabilities, this Alabama team has had to show that. FSU, obviously, week one, we all saw it. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, I have a question. Gus Malzahn is three and six against you, and kudos to you because that is actually a really good record against you.

1:19:58And if you count the win earlier against Bama, he's four and six against Bama. What is it about Gus's offense that makes it so difficult for these defenses that have all these athletes in size and they're always normally good? I think they're going for 600 yards a game so far this year. But what is it about Gus's offense that gives teams problems and could give Miami a problem? Well, Gus always gave us the most problems when he had a running quarterback, which is obviously what he has now at Florida State, because he is very stubborn and committed to running the football. So when you add the extra element of quarterback runs with all the zone options, zone read, slider options, all that stuff, it adds a whole other element to the offense.

1:20:41And then they have a really good play-action pass system that goes with that. Not a great drop-back team, but when they have a running quarterback, it creates a huge advantage to me for Gus in terms of what he loves to do. That's when they gave us lots of problems. A couple of those games were crazy games, man, crazy games, where they beat us kick six. One time we were going to get the ball back with a minute and something to go. We had 12 guys on the field. I mean, just crazy stuff. But good coaching on their part.

1:21:13Pat McAfee:I watched just two nightmares. We had 12 guys on the field. I have no idea how we had 12 guys on the field. Kick six, have you ever heard of something so ridiculous? We lost on that one too. I mean, I like the fact that you still have all the memories of the bad ones because a lot of these numbers, brother, up here or you? This whole shit here. Can we hit this thing one more time? This whole shit here? I don't know if you saw it. Yeah, but you know, I remember all those games that we didn't win and the ones that we lost a lot more than the ones that we won. But what about this, though? You did this.

1:21:43Pat McAfee:Look at this. Look at the lights. It's like the Detroit airport. You haven't been in there in a long time. That is sweet, right? Coming across the top. You know what I mean? It's an awesome thing. But all of this is because of you. How do you feel about Kalen DeBoer at this stage? How do you think he has handled this team? A lot of pressure, mounting pressure there whenever, obviously, the first week does not go the way that everybody was hoping that it would go. Whenever you think about Kalen DeBoer bouncing back, what is your immediate thoughts? And have you talked to him much? I know you're in the same boat.

1:22:14Yeah, I talked to him on occasion. We talked after the four-state game. But, you know, I think Kalen's done a fantastic job of taking an expectation that everybody had at Florida State and the disappointment of that and getting the team psychologically turned around to get away from playing. I thought they played with a lot of anxiety at Florida State. You know, when the game got 7-7, it seemed like the energy level changed based on, you know, everything everybody talks about around here is winning, winning, winning, winning. And sometimes that can affect the players' focus on what do I need to do to win, and they're so worried about the outcome, they create a bunch of anxiety because of the expectations.

1:22:55You heard me talk about this before. So you've got to figure out a different way for the players to approach the competition. You know, like simple things, like play one play at a time. You know, don't focus on the scoreboard. Focus on the next play. Don't worry about the crowd. You know, they're not going to make any plays in the game. You know, things like that that players can focus on to maintain the respect of what it takes to win. and I think Kalen has done a fantastic job of that and you see the different level of tenacity and the way the players have competed in the last three games. Now, the next question is, is they had a big win.

1:23:33How are they going to respond to the success of having a big win?

1:23:36Pat McAfee:Oh, no. Tell them they're good. You should say they're good right now. They are good, but Vanderbilt's good too. Oh, oh, oh. The rat boy's in the tunnel right now coming from this. Connor has a question for you about an SEC team that's battling at the quarterback position. Yeah, Coach, John Mateer was the Heisman frontrunner. It looked like Oklahoma was going to have a magical season. Still can, but it kind of was stopped short with Mateer getting hurt. What do you think Oklahoma needs to do to stay hot without Mateer at the helm? And how do you think they're going to change their style? Or will they change their style because Mateer's not out or not playing?

1:24:15Well, I don't know a whole lot about their backup quarterback, but I think it would be smart for them to make sure they're doing whatever that player can do. If he's a runner, run him. If he's a good drop back passer, pass him. Because I think they've got to try to win the games with the other parts of their team elevating. In other words, how well do we play defense? How can we make things happen on special teams? And then don't lose the game on offense by doing what the quarterback can do. and don't ask him to do things he really can't do. That's what I would say. Now, I think they still will have a chance because Matera is going to miss, what, three or four weeks?

1:24:56Depending. And if they can keep from losing more than one game during that time, I think they'll still have a shot.

1:25:04Pat McAfee:The Venables defense is always going to be good. The thought of your season getting derailed by an injury like that, because, man, we were out there at Oklahoma. It was awesome. Yeah. We saw the Venables defense going to do his thing. Arbuckle and Mateer are going to be maybe the story of college football. Oklahoma's all the way back. And then you just get a devastating blow out of nowhere, like, hey, guys down. Next man up is the speech, obviously, that you have to give over there. That's what Venables is trying to do. And at night when Venables sits down, does he say, what's the problem? Does he talk to the football gods?

1:25:34Pat McAfee:Does he say, what the hell did I do? Is there any of those moments that you obviously can't let the players see? Did you ever have those? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, Tua got hurt. Tua broke his hip. We probably had, you know, maybe one of the best teams that we ever had the year that Tua broke his hip. And, you know, we were ahead 36-15 or something at the time. It was right at the end of the second quarter. And, you know, but Mac Jones was not ready at that time, even though the next year we won the national championship with Mac Jones playing. And in 2019, we had one of the best teams that we ever had, and we got derailed because of that injury.

1:26:18So, yeah, I can see you get derailed. I mean, it happens.

1:26:21Pat McAfee:You can talk to the football gods saying, what is the problem here? But I think from a leadership standpoint, you know, you can't do that. You need to say, okay, how do I lead our players, our team, the people in our organization, our coaches, everybody in the organization to being positive about what do we have to do to fix this and give us a plan and an option so that we do have a chance to be successful so you're creating a hope and enthusiasm in the organization so that everybody's not sitting around like a fan saying the sky is falling we lost the quarterback yeah but just tell me you're a human though like yeah i'm a human because mac jones goes to auburn and throws two pick sixes when we got the ball in the three yard and we ended up getting beat 44-41 or something.

1:27:12I've been there. I get it.

1:27:16Pat McAfee:Okay, let's talk about Mac Jones. He just had his best professional game last night, primetime, and you said he wasn't ready that year. The next year he was ready. Puts together one of the greatest years in college football with Sarkis OC. Obviously, New England goes how it goes. Then he goes down to Jacksonville. Now he's with Shanahan. Shanahan was allegedly, they were allegedly, potentially, going to draft him at number three overall. Instead, they end up with Trey Lance because of the upside, the athleticism, everything like that. Shanahan getting to experience this with Mac Jones right now.

1:27:41Pat McAfee:Mac Jones handling it perfectly, saying, hey, this is Brock Purdy's team. I'm just here to be the backup quarterback, do his thing. Did you get a chance to see last night? And whenever you see something like this happen for one of your players, is there a sense of fulfillment or happiness for them? Because for a long time, he's been getting buried about being a bust. This guy sucks. And then he goes to the 49ers, and it's almost like a perfect storm for him to be great. And last night, he was certainly that as he has been all season for them. Yeah, he has been all season for them, and it does give me great joy.

1:28:10Jeez, you can smile. Very proud of all of our guys that go on, and this is what they came here to do. This is why they worked hard. They wanted to win at Alabama, but they also wanted to have a career for themselves and play in the NFL. So when they do it and are successful, it makes me feel wonderful and very proud, Almost like, you know, a father who is proud of the son, which, you know, I've had the opportunity to be quite a bit as well. So anyway, I'm so happy for Mac, but I think Mac was one of those guys that was in bad situations in New England relative to coaching and all that type of stuff.

1:28:50And who was the offensive coordinator and how did he get developed when he came in the league? And he hasn't been in great circumstances. I think right now he is in a really good circumstance with Shanahan, their offense, the players he's got around him, because he is a guy that will execute. He's really, really smart, so he's going to do exactly what you tell him to do. And he wants to know exactly what you want him to do. And I'm not sure he always got told exactly what was expected of him before going to the 49ers.

1:29:18Pat McAfee:He's got a lot of moxie. I enjoy the way. It feels like he is mentally, physically, emotionally in the perfect spot with Shanahan and we want to let him know it's fun to watch. Did you see his suit? Did you dress him? Were you his tailor? Did you see what he was wearing last night? I did not see his suit. You looked good in that suit last week. Hey, can you can you did you see his suit? This is his suit. This is Mac right here. Pretty good. I like it, Mac. He won. He won. I'll tell you what. You need to win that. You wear that in. You need to win. And he did. And he played his best game. So keep doing it.

1:29:58Pat McAfee:Sometimes you do things like that. You know, there's going to be a lot of heat. You know, a lot of people are going to watch you. Put a little public pressure on yourself to perform at your best. I thought you looked really good in that all-white suit last week, brother. I thought you looked really good. I know you were pumped about that. I've gotten a lot of, I don't want to say it. What? About wearing that white suit. Compliments? Compliments you mean? I thought mine was going to be white. If it means anything, I thought mine was going to be white. When I showed up off-white and I saw what everybody else was wearing and I know all the conversations took place, I was like, I'm certainly adding a little fucking heat to the fire right here.

1:30:33Pat McAfee:I will say that, but I thought you looked great. And the Air Maxes that you had on, very clean. I thought you did a fantastic job. Let's talk about a fantastic job that needs to be had. Texas travels into a tough environment in Florida. And obviously, we chatted about this during a production meeting. I think Jimmy Gallera brought up the fact that looking ahead, That was definitely where game day was projected to be. Texas, Florida, DJ Lagwaite, Arch Manning. They're kind of doing what they're doing right now. Ty has a question for you on that note. Yeah, Coach, obviously everything with Arch Manning hasn't gone the way fans, media, pretty much everyone has expected thus far.

1:31:10What are your thoughts on that game this weekend? And do you think that there's potential cause for concern for Texas as they really get into the meat of their schedule now, given kind of how poorly they – or how poorly, I guess, it looked in games against kind of substandard competition? Yeah, well, I think probably if I called Stark right now and said, you know, what are you concerned about? He would probably say, well, we haven't been able to run the ball with the kind of consistency that we'd like to, so we don't have to put everything on the quarterback. And then the quarterback has been a little bit inconsistent and his fundamental accuracy, which is, you know, getting better, but not where he'd like for it to be.

1:31:53I think their defense has been pretty good, but I think they need to get those two things fixed on offense, and they're going to play against a really good defensive team. And they're going to play against a defensive team that plays a lot of, it's cover seven, but it's kind of an umbrella too deep, you know, where the safeties are involved in the run, but yet you've got too deep against the pass. So there's not going to be as many clean looks for the quarterback, and that's one of the reasons that they only give up 173 yards a game passing. I think you saw last week, you know, Miami's quarterback had a little bit of struggle, you know, with that secondary.

1:32:31So I know they don't get a lot of pressure on the quarterback, but I think this is going to be an issue. If Arch is not accurate with the ball, it could be a problem. And if they can't run it and he's not accurate with the ball, That adds up to how do you make plays and how do you score in a red zone when you get in a red zone.

1:32:49Pat McAfee:How is Florida when it's alive, the swamp? Everywhere in the SEC is obviously good. I'm not going to say, including Vandy now. You know what I mean? I'm saying Florida the swamp has like a little. AJ, don't you think, at least in Pittsburgh, I think I thought that growing up, like Florida the swamp. And maybe that's because Tebow and Leak and everybody. It seems crazy loud. Watching on TV, it seems like it's a really tough place to play. And it was. But most of the time when we played there, they were really pretty good. Even the last time we played there when Dan Mullum was the coach, I mean, it was a tough place to play.

1:33:24And I think we won 32-31 or something. I mean, it was a tough game. But it is a tough place to play. But I think, you know, all fans are going to go with the momentum of the game. And it was always our goal when I was coaching to take the fans out of the game with good execution and create momentum for our team so it takes the fans out of the game. And fans are pretty fickle sometimes when it comes to that. And the more enthusiastic they are, sometimes the faster they go out of the game. So that's got to be how you've got to approach it, I think, when you're going into a place like this and playing.

1:34:03Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's come back to this game here on your field that's going to be played tomorrow. Vandy, obviously, Alabama has created some magical moments. Run the clip, Foxy, please. We show you how to play some SEC ball. It don't matter where you're from. You don't know what ball we play. Alabama, you're next. Okay, Alabama, you're next. Now, you guys, you stopped from scoring 60, I think, against them in this particular game. There's a picture of a bunch of offense alignment, I think the starters around you, asking you to keep going because there was like one minute left in the game, and I think it was second and goal or first and goal.

1:34:39Pat McAfee:I saw it on the internet and I think you were calling off the dogs at that particular point. But that type of motivation was, I think you said, I would have paid that guy a million dollars to say that going into the Vandy game. Don't need that now, right, with Vandy? And how good does it feel to be that guy now knowing that what he's saying, maybe Vandy can live up to. Aren't you happy for that? It was right there saying, hey, bud, you know, good for you. I appreciate it. I was happy for him at the time because I was losing sleep over how I was going to motivate our team to play Vandy. And he did it for me.

1:35:09So that was a good thing. And if I was him, I would be proud now of the fact that the Vanderbilt program has elevated itself to being 5-0, ranked, and has a chance to do something spectacular this year. He should say it again.

1:35:23Pat McAfee:He should come out. Shouldn't he come out and say it again? I wish he would.

1:35:30Pat McAfee:All right. Anybody got any more questions for Coach back there? I want to ask about Mac Jones. Coach, what was it like with Coach and Mack in college? We heard he was pretty lively in practice, very competitive, like go back and forth a little bit with coaches. Did you ever have that with him? Yeah, I used to call him John McEnroe. Really? You know, Mack was a tennis player in high school. Oh. So, like, when Mack threw a bad pass, he'd kick and fuss and cuss and all that. So I'd say, John, you going to throw your racket now? I said, you can't do that and play quarterback. You know, you're affecting the whole team out here.

1:36:07You make one bad play and you go bananas. I said, you can't do that. You're going to have bad plays. You've got to play the next play. You can't get emotional about it and let it affect everybody around here with your negative body language. So it's not an individual sport. You can't throw your rackets. Cut that shit out.

1:36:24Pat McAfee:Wow. It took him a little bit. It took him a little bit. But I think he has reached his maximum Mac Jones potential. And him growing up in tennis is such a different, now all of a sudden a lot more makes sense. I heard some people in the Thunderdome going, ah. Yeah, because individual sports. Yeah. That is different than team sports. Yeah, like how you react, how you interact, your responses versus what everybody else's response is, especially at the quarterback position. So congrats to Mac. He a good player. Did you go watch him play tennis at all when you were recruiting him? No. Okay. But the other thing is, as you know, as athletes, You know, we kind of get taught when we're in Little League and stuff and the coach is disappointed in us that we should actually show disappointment in ourselves as if that'll keep the coach from getting on us.

1:37:10And that's exactly the opposite that you want to do. Because when you show disappointment, you're showing a guy you're playing against in a team sport that he's whipping your butt. So why would you ever do that? You never want to show that kind of emotion. So, you know, and that's something that... But I'm going to tell you what, the year Mac Jones played quarterback for us in 2020, and we won the championship, he never did that once. He was a great leader. He was a team guy, and he executed everything to perfection.

1:37:37Pat McAfee:We're excited to watch him continue to grow. We have no idea what his future holds, but we do know that he's going to dress sweet. And if he's in that Shanahan offense, he's getting that ball out quick, and he's taking deep shots. 82 % of the offense last night was through the air for Shanahan. I guess Shanahan's only won like two games whenever the number's been over 80%. Mack Jones carried them last night with a lot of injuries. It was a special night for him. I hope it continues. Maybe he's going to sign a$180 million deal this offseason. Yep. He's going to sign a$180 million deal. You think?

1:38:07Pat McAfee:You're giving up on Dylan Gabriel already? No, no, no, no. I just, you know, when it comes to quarterbacks who might get a bunch of money, the Cleveland Browns are the ones I look to to overpay no matter what. It's got former coach Cleveland. I want to know, what number quarterback would that be? Because they've had about 30 different guys playing quarterback. Have you seen the jersey? Have you seen the jersey? Have you seen the jersey? Somebody made like a professional version of the tape jersey, and there it is right there. There's been 10 since Baker. Wow. Detmer, when were you coaching this team?

1:38:41Pat McAfee:Who was quarterback? Vinny Testaverde. Doug Goat. A little bit before this, I guess. Geez Louise. Now, I was there before they moved to Baltimore, so they actually didn't have a team for a while, which was a shame because Cleveland was such a great sports town. And, you know, the spirit that they had at Cleveland at the Browns, I mean, being a defensive coordinator there, you've got to go to the dog pound at noon and everybody's dressed up like it's Halloween, barking at your ass. I mean, it's great. Were you barking with them? Oh, yeah, you had to bark back. How's your bark? Pretty good? Back then.

1:39:19Pat McAfee:He knows I was trying to bait him right there. He's smart. You son of a... Remember last week, we go to the digital version. He's like, I'm getting the help. You remember that? Oh, yeah. We appreciate you, man. That was awesome. All right. Thank you for the hospitality here. And I'm going to break some news. He's feeding us tonight. Him and Mr. Wow. That'd be great. Cannot wait. I'm going to be walking in there on cloud 50, ready to eat everything in there. Maybe I'll slip some of the vitamins into your guys' food. Yeah, maybe. Maybe tomorrow, too, a little bit. I appreciate the promo you put for game day, too.

1:39:56Pat McAfee:I thought that was a really good promo whenever you spoke to the camera. You're getting very good at those. I know those aren't the most comfortable things for you to do. You'd rather talk ball and talk about your experiences. You're becoming an incredible television personality, and it's been an honor to watch you work, be a friend of yours, and it's great to be back in your town. And hopefully on Saban Field right there, the boys will continue a magical journey this year after a first-week loss. I hope so. I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you being here. I love these guys. They're great. Football people.

1:40:23I like talking football.

1:40:26Pat McAfee:Hell yeah, Coach. Team on me. Coach, you got anything to say? You got to put your hand in, Coach? You're going to put your hand in? There it is. What do you got, Coach? What do you got? What do you got? We're breaking this down. You're going to get the fuck out of here. So, you got any messages? Roll, Todd, roll. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. There we go. Thank you, Coach. Appreciate it, man. I'm shocked he didn't bark. You didn't think he was going to take the bait. I thought he was going to get a few barks out of him. Yeah, saving's the best. I mean, it's so cool just listening to him talk even about, like, Mac and former players and just where the team and DeBoer's going.

1:41:02It's like you get a real update on what Alabama is kind of going, hopefully, you know, onto with DeBoer. Who knows what's going to happen. Yeah, I love how he said, I love the standard. I love that you are expected to win every single game here. And that's true. I guess everyone, if you're not there, you're trying to get there, right? Wouldn't you love your Iowa Hawkeyes to be in that situation? Yeah, I mean, the standard is nine wins every single year. Which is really good. We have a standard of our own, but can you imagine, like, Kalen DeBoer, just having him always around, that would be so hard.

1:41:32Just knowing that, like, hey, if we don't play our A game and play our best on Saturday and we squeak by someone who we should kill, people are just – this guy's still here. People are going to be like, well, can't we get his ass out of there? Every first down they give up, too. We're saving. Saban's defense will never allow that to happen. Well, and they listen to him every Saturday and Friday and stuff, so they know that if he really wanted to, he could still do it. It's not like he's too old or anything. You know what I mean? Yeah, Saban's handled it well, though, hasn't he? He hasn't got out there and peacocked around and acted like he didn't like DeBoer.

1:42:06He's been very, very supportive of DeBoer. Even though DeBoer did change his whole office up, didn't he? That's what I was thinking, right? It went from old school, almost like what early 2000s looked like. Maybe older. Like this, papers everywhere on his desk. Rich mahogany. Yeah, nice. Beautiful. Unbelievable, modern, like the modern straight lines, no papers. People are saying it looks like a T-Mobile store now. Yeah. It's easier to stay awake in the Boers, I would say. Like those late nights, those nice halogens in there. Yeah, but does he have an actual wood-burning fireplace in there like Coach Saban?

1:42:37I don't know. It looked like Coach Saban. I mean, there's a bunch of good games on this weekend, isn't there, Tone? Yeah, it's not as good. Well, let me say this. It's not as good as it's supposed to be from last weekend, but there is still some good ones. Obviously, we talked about Miami at Florida State. That one lost a little luster when Florida State lost last week, but that's still a really good game. We talked about Vandy at Bama, obviously. Texas at Florida could be a sneaky good one. Houston is 4-0, and Texas Tech is going to Houston, so another one there. Mississippi State's only loss was in overtime last week to Tennessee, So them going to A &M, like there's some sneaky good games there.

1:43:11And then obviously you have the NFL slate that, you know, there were some people talking some shit on it earlier in the week. But the more you look at it, like I think it's a pretty solid slate. I like Broncos-Eagles. I think that's a sneaky good game as well. Yeah, I mean, with what we've seen so far in the NFL, like I know a lot of these games on paper seem like, you know, shite. But like the Giants beat the Chargers last week. Like it is so week to week. It's too early. Literally any of these teams could beat anyone. I mean, Bucs, Seahawks, I think that one could be a really good game as well.

1:43:41I think the Seahawks are solid. We know the Bucs are good. Pat, I don't know if you got Coach Saban all packed up and on his way, but I didn't realize you're going to dinner tonight at his actual house.

1:43:49Pat McAfee:Is that what's going on? Oh, he's hosting. Him and Miss Terry are hosting. I can't wait to get over there and see what the place looks like. And I heard you guys while you were doing all that talk, while I was talking to Coach Saban, and I heard you say, like, he's still in the building. It's like, yeah, he's still got an office here. He's still watching film as if he's the coach. And to Tone's point, it's hard not to just be like, can we not just get that guy out of that suite that he's in right up there? Can we just get him down here? And it's like I think he feels an obligation, which certainly is not the reality, but an obligation to Alabama for everything that Alabama has done for him.

1:44:20Pat McAfee:I think he feels that way. But I think everybody would understand if he just went down to Florida and missed Terry and golfed every day and then just did college game day. Instead, I don't think he has the ability or the capability to get out of the daily routine of driving over here, doing his film, watching stuff, breaking things down, shaking hands, going to talk to people, leading, innovating, and then getting out of here. I think he'll be doing this for the rest of his life. So Kalen DeBoer, and we talked about this when he got hired, Kalen DeBoer has a lot of confidence in himself. D3 champion, D2 champion, D1AA.

1:44:52Pat McAfee:Obviously, he gets up to Indiana, then he gets up to Washington, takes them to a national championship. It's like Kalen DeBoer has a lot of self-confidence in who he is as a coach, but I think anybody else would have cracked. like very, very quickly, I think. A couple losses, you lose the Florida State this year. Yeah, right. Get the hell out of it. How loud it was getting. Even by us, we were saying like, hey, we love Kalen DeBoer. Reality of the situation here. This is just reality. He has never budged, man. And I think he's even changed his messaging with being in Alabama. So it's like I'm very impressed by DeBoer.

1:45:23Pat McAfee:And Clark Lake of Vanderbilt, what a dog. I mean, they got dogs all over the field. So I'm very pumped to be here. And then you talked about those notable games. I mean, you've got Air Force, Navy also this weekend, which is obviously exciting for the United States of America anytime you get to the military academies taking each other on. And to your point, AJ, in tone, Buck Seahawks, great game. Buck Seahawks is a great game. I don't think any of us would really expect that to be a great game or look forward to that on a lot of weeks. But Buck Seahawks, great game. Broncos, Eagles, unbelievable.

1:45:54Pat McAfee:Commanders, Chargers, who's going to respond? Patriots, Bills on Sunday night football. maybe it doesn't stink as bad especially because the Loud House is going to be back on TV with the Raiders coming to town with they have a 10 a.m. local start against us in the Loud House so I know Max Crosby is going to be juiced but anytime those West Coast teams have to come to East Coast time zone I think that's tough they're much more mentally tough than I am but I think that's a difficult thing so maybe we'll have a great weekend and don't forget West Virginia BYU tonight yeah that's a big one You're damn right it is.

1:46:29Pat McAfee:Everything's still in front of us, brother. Yeah, we lose to Kansas by 100. Yeah, we lose to Ohio University. That's a good team. How much was it? It wasn't really 100. What was it? 30 or 40. I forget what it was. Hey, AJ, yeah, we don't need to double down on it and give exact stats. It was a lot. We got murdered. I believe some people call it marked is what some people would call it, but we certainly did. Let's cover some of the news that maybe we didn't hit this week that we should have. The Big Ten has been talking to private capital firms to potentially infuse$2 billion into its schools. This would obviously require a new TV deal, which is up in 2036.

1:47:12Pat McAfee:The conversation around the TV deals and why it's so important is because if we were to get a top 60 or everybody on the same page, we would have to time up all the TV deals and all the network executives at the same time. So the Big Ten potentially infusing a$2 billion investment, maybe giving up a percentage of the Big Ten in total to one of these investment firms who have so much money and then having to renegotiate so that they can upfront that payment back. I'm intrigued by it, AJ. Have you heard much about this in the Big Ten? But once again, Big Ten making money decisions like most Big Ten schools are doing at the moment.

1:47:45Pat McAfee:I don't mind the brainstorming. I don't mind the idea, especially if it's going to help all their sports teams around the Big Ten, AJ. Yeah, they're going to need it. I haven't heard too much about it, but it always, to me, comes back to the TV deals. As you said, the TV deal runs through, what, 2036. So how do you find a way to group all that, to figure all of those logistics out? I'm not really sure exactly how it goes. I don't know. I mean, what does college football look like five years from now? Nobody knows. Let alone ten years from now. I mean, no one even knows what any rules are, what you can or can't do right now.

1:48:17So next two, three, five, eight years, who knows what happens. I think this was first explored, if I remember correctly, from Florida State maybe last year or two years ago. In Clemson, yeah. Yeah, in Clemson when they were potentially looking to get out of the ACC. I think it was J.P. Morgan at that time. So the Big Ten probably just saw that and was like, oh, and they probably saw the NFL, you know, who private funds are now allowed to invest in and be like, oh, these are pretty good ideas. But as NFL, though, you get equity in the team. What kind of equity do these private firms get in the Big Ten?

1:48:46I mean, if you get equity in the school or the conference and they get these TV deals, then you get a— Yeah, it would be in the conference.

1:48:52Pat McAfee:I think it would be in the conference. And then if the teams make the playoffs, that goes to the conference, right? And the conference has to divvy it up. Yeah. So that money comes into it. It's like if the conference is negotiating a$2 billion deal, what's the percentage that the conference has given up? I wish we could just cold call Petiti. I'm not going to do that. That's putting him in a very bad spot. Hey, Petiti, what's that? $2 billion? And then what's the TV? That's$2 billion? How many billions do we get? Who's getting all these billions? So congrats to the Big Ten. I like them being innovative to try to figure this whole thing out.

1:49:24Pat McAfee:Also, Chicago's new stadium is a go in Arlington Heights. Money is now coming out. So the stadium itself is going to cost$2 billion. I believe the Chicago Bears are going to pay for the stadium itself. They have asked for$855 million in public funding for around the stadium, which is obviously Patriot time. What do you guys call it up there? Patriot's place, of course. There it is, Patriot's place. You got Jerry World down there where you don't just own the stadium and all the tickets happen in there. The hotel around there, maybe a casino around there, restaurants, shops, just like in Lambeau at Green Bay.

1:49:58Pat McAfee:So they're asking for$855 million. But they announced it was a$5 billion thing. So where's the other$2.145 billion coming from and where is that going, AJ? I think that is the big question. But anytime you get a green light to move on a new stadium, we as NFL fans are happy about that. I do wonder what how long this is all going to take and where's the other 2.145 billion coming from or going I'm sure they'll figure that out I'm sure it'll be very clean operation entirety go ahead we know these things have never like any kind of construction you know it's usually over budget so they just they're planning for this they're anticipating that we're gonna be two billion dollars over is that what this is but where does it come from then I guess they can crawl back to the cities hey don't say we didn't warn you we need Good news.

1:50:45We don't need two, Bill. We need$1.95 billion for you. So it's actually a little bit less.

1:50:50Pat McAfee:Actually, we need$3 billion. Yeah, you're right. You definitely could. If they're giving$2 billion just for the stadium, and then they're asking for$855 million for around the stadium, if they're going to get that much money, why didn't they just redo Soldier Field? I don't think I – I love it. Hey, I love it. And Kevin Warren, a man who partially negotiated the last Big Ten deal that we were just kind of chatting about. And I think there were some interesting strategies in negotiating that TV contract by Kevin Warren. And I think there's a lot of things set. You know, we're canceling football during COVID, Kevin Warren, and all that type of stuff.

1:51:29Pat McAfee:And not going to let anybody on the Pat McAfee show because they point out that I canceled football during COVID and also everything else. Kevin Warren, that guy, Kevin Warren, it's like he wanted to didn't he want to go through the feng shui of the suites? Correct. He was very hands on with designing the suites and making sure the feng shui was correct. So there's no way we're redoing Soldier Fuel because Kevin Warren's suites have a different look and I assume if you own everything like they're going to up there at Arlington Heights the profit is massive and I assume this is going to work out for Kevin Warren and the Chicago Bears.

1:52:03Pat McAfee:They might have a team that might be worth it too brother at this point And so good for them. Anytime money is invested in the ball, we appreciate it. Speaking of that, Virginia Tech's board has approved adding an extra$229 million to its athletic budget. That's not one year. That's a rollout plan over a few years. B.A., obviously, friend of the program, Super Bowl champion coach B.A. is part of the advisory board for Virginia Tech to find their next head coach. They're going all in. It's like you can kind of figure out who's going, who's not going. Vandy, definitely a school that's going. Virginia Tech says they're a school that's going to be going as well.

1:52:37Pat McAfee:I respect and appreciate the hell out of that, A.J. Hawk. Don't you think this is just a dog whistle for all the great coaches? Say, hey, you can come here. We need to recruit a great new head coach because guess what? We can win. If we don't have this in place, you don't really have a chance. You might be able to win seven, eight games, but you can't win at all. And on that note, nobody looks at UCLA in the football world as a good job. Correct. Everybody likes UCLA, like the school, the colors, the place, everything, the history, but nobody in football is like, you know what? UCLA will back you.

1:53:07Pat McAfee:That doesn't feel like it's a narrative right now for UCLA people. I'm just telling you what I'm hearing these years without my headphones in because I can actually hear what they're saying. That is kind of how it's going. Chris Boswell earlier this year said that James Harrison told him in his first practice that if he misses a kick, he has to wash his back, which might be why he's so good. Intua said that doctors told him that he needs to eat all the sandwiches and pizza he can because it's good for his concussions in a nutshell. That's everything we haven't talked about this week. AJ, is that everything?

1:53:35Pat McAfee:I think you nailed it. You nailed it real quick. It was nice. Toxic table, did I miss anything there? Red Panda is practicing again after her wrist surgery. Let's go, Red Panda! She can't afford another fall. We can't have her fall again. Why would you even say that? What are you talking about? You got to talk about it. If it's mentionable, it's manageable. Mr. Rogers used to say that. That's a great saying. Mr. Rogers is a great Pittsburgh Inzer, okay? So he needs not to be quoted by you in a negative sense. He was nothing but positivity, which we will continue digitally. And we'll see you on Overreaction Monday.

1:54:06Pat McAfee:Going to be a great weekend of sports. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We'll see you Monday. Goodbye. Okay, I feel like I missed the goodbye, but they will get that I was saying goodbye. Let's take a break. On the other side, let's make our picks. I believe they're going to open this tunnel up completely for people. And while they're doing that, we're going to show you a great college football podcast. What an otter guy. The otter guy. Stanford, Steve, AJ, you're killing it. We'll see you in a moment. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.

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1:55:24Here we go, hour three, the Pat McAfee show. I'm AJ Hawk sitting in for Pat here in Indy. Thanks to Nick Saban, Dan Orlovsky. Pat's in Tuscaloosa. Football! What's going on, Pat? Who you got over there? What a shirt you got on there. I see you.

1:55:43Pat McAfee:Who you represent? Ladies and gentlemen. Doug O. You know what's going on there? He bought this from a tent outside of Ramajama this morning. Ramajama, noted local diner. We had breakfast there with four-time national champion Josh Chapman, former teammate of mine. He is a fantastic soul, a fantastic presence, a large man who obviously eats well. We ate well, and while I was going to the bathroom on our way out, Gumpy came back, I just bought this. And I said, where? And he pointed at a tent that was in the parking lot. And he's got a merch store set up. He's got Dale Earnhardt representing on the gut.

1:56:18Pat McAfee:He's got Daytona 500 on the chest. And we're in for a great 48 hours here in lovely T-Town. AJ, thank you for traveling to Indianapolis. I know you're not alone over there. There's hocks at tables there at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to the Yankees, Gump. There you go, the Yankees. Happy for you, Todd. Thank you, Gump. Good fan. Thank you, Gump. True fan. There you go, Todd. Gump is a Boston Red Sox fan, even though he grew up in Victoria, Canada. Went to about 10 of the games this year for the Boston Red Sox. I followed along his IG story as he sat on top of the Green Monster. He is a Red Sox fan.

1:56:50Pat McAfee:What did you keep saying true fan to Ty for? Because what was that? It felt like that was kind of a slight. It felt like you were taking a shot at somebody. No, Ty just never gave up. He trusted his boys to get done. He never quit on them. Yeah, but who are you? Never made excuses or anything like that. I never once gave up. Is that right? I was talking to Bruce. I was talking about you. I did. Is that you, Bruce? I did, Gumpy. I said that you were talking about me. You don't have to do the thinly veiled bullshit. Whoa. While I did speculate about Garrett Cole coming back and the Yankees getting Paul Skeens, there was never a doubt that the Red Sox were an inferior opponent.

1:57:29Oh, fuck you. We just had to do our job. There we go. Schindler, boy, did he do his job. He's got eyes for it. I told you that pregame. I told Pat that pregame. I told Tony that pregame.

1:57:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, Bruce did tell me on the way out, he said, he said, hey, just like Rodon had those eyes, I think is his name, he said, this kid's got the same eyes. This kid is ready for the moment, and he certainly was. And your Red Sox, you guys had a good year. You guys had good years. Good year. Good year. Good year. We were pretty banged up, too, but good year. No, no. It's a good young squad. Hold on, Connor. What are you saying? You're making excuses right now? Is that what it sounded like right there? No, no. We lost already, so we don't have to make excuses. It's done. We are the losers. They are the winners.

1:58:09but you're telling me a guy with the name Tony Tony in New York City wouldn't have helped the Boston Red Sox win? He's right. He might be right.

1:58:17Pat McAfee:He's right. Valid. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP tone in a fantastic cowboy hat. Gumpy's here because we got one thing left to do, and that's pick the entire NFL slate. We are undefeated going into the weekend. First time, long time for me and AJ. Obviously, Gumpy will be helping me out and the boys. Vikings, Browns, 9.30 a.m. Coming to you live from London time on NFL Network. Vikings have ruled out these players for Sunday's game in London against the Browns. J.J. McCarthy, Donovan Jackson, Ryan Kelly, Brian O 'Neill, Michael Yerges, and Van Genke. That's obviously a lot of players not shooting or booting in London after an international game last week against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1:59:02Pat McAfee:Saw them lose. They're favored by three and a half, taking on Cleveland. Gumpy, what is your first thoughts whenever you see that line? I kind of fancy the Browns here. I like Judkins. He's been playing well. I like him to get it going. I like Dylan Gabriel, too. AJ, what are your thoughts? Do you fancy the Browns like Gumpy, or do you think Kevin O 'Connell over there is going to be able to cook something up? Last night, we saw a very decimated team with injuries come through and win in a big way. It feels like the NFL is you're not supposed to do that. They end up doing that type league. AJ, what are your thoughts?

1:59:30Yeah, just like Gumpy, I think I fancy the Cleveland Browns here, especially since they're three and a half point dogs. A four and a half also just popped up. I'll take four and a half. Who knows what the turf's going to be like. I'm sure it'll be sloppy. They'll probably try to slow Miles Garrett in his rush down, but that helps. I think Judkins can still move around.

1:59:48Pat McAfee:Give me the Browns here, Pat. I didn't even think about the shite turf in London. That helps the O-linemen. You know that. Hotspur Stadium will get it figured out. Yeah, Hotspur Stadium will have it ready. I don't think they will, actually. I don't know if anybody other than Ireland has ever really had it figured out. and Ireland even had a little couple slips. It's just a different grass, different game, different explosiveness. It's a different experience for the athletes on the field. I'll stick with the Browns, though. I fancy the Browns as well. I think Dylan Gabriel does well, even though I think B-Flow is going to make it very difficult for him.

2:00:20Pat McAfee:We will certainly take four and a half if we can. Houston Texans at the Baltimore Ravens. Everything about this is Lamar Jackson out, Cooper Cush in, but Lamar's not the only guy. Here's who the Ravens have not practicing on this feel-good fast Friday. Obviously, stars galore. Everybody on there is a name that we know, and it doesn't include Anabike, who's the D tackle who's been ruled out for the season, who's one of their pro bowlers and their stars. Ravens decimated. They have a tall task. Tone, what is the thoughts? What is the percentage of money in this particular game? You can get a minus one and a half for the Texans to a plus two and a half for the Ravens if you're interested.

2:01:01the money is actually 73 % on the Ravens. So they still think the Ravens can do it against a Texans offense that has been shite so far this season.

2:01:11Pat McAfee:Ty, it sounds like you think that's tasty. Is that what I heard over there? Yeah, I mean, kind of. Hey, listen, we've seen what Cooper Cush can do in the past. He thinks I might be riding with the public on this one. Connor, do you have any say? No, I think Cooper Cush. I think Ty nailed it. I think Cooper Cush, he's got the juice, I believe. I don't know if he beat the Texans or he played the Texans already when he was with Dallas, but it does feel as though Cooper Cush might get the job done. And maybe Derrick Henry finally says, I'm going to hold on to the ball. Okay. AJ, did you see the CJ Stroud quote?

2:01:47Pat McAfee:Was that AI? I think it was real. Yeah. What did he say? I think it may have been real. He doesn't feel as athletic as he was when he was younger. He's 23 or whatever. He said he's getting old, man. He's throwing him off the set. You know, of course, classic. Classic move. Throw him off. Make him think that you're lost, like you're washed already. Man, I'm getting old. I'm not as quick as I once was. It's like, bro, you're 23. You're going to be getting faster. You're going to be getting faster, actually. You're about to hit your prime at like 28. Your body actually. I feel like I'm getting old.

2:02:16Pat McAfee:I'm not as quick as I used to be. He's only going to get quicker, we think. I'm not playing behind that old line. That old line's been shite for two years now. They have been shite. Why aren't they fixing that? What's Casario doing? Trade Tunsil away. Hey, Paesan, protect this guy. Jeez, Louise. On that note, I will take.

2:02:37Pat McAfee:Bless you. Bless you. I don't know how many people are sneezing in this tunnel. First one. That might be the first one. Roll tide. Roll tide. I don't think you say bless you. I think you got that wrong. Ha-choo. Roll tide, of course. I'll take.

2:02:55Pat McAfee:Boom. I'll take the Texans. Plus, what can I get them? Sorry, minus 1.5 for the Texans, plus 2.5 for the Ravens. I'll take the Texans minus 1.5. Raiders at Colts, I'm taking the Colts. Thanks. Welcome to the Loud House. It's a problem. AJ, you are as well, obviously. Yeah, I don't think I gave a pick previously. I'm taking the Texans at minus 1.5 on that game. But, hey, I am a believer in the Colts. Give me the Colts here. What is it, 6.5 point faves? I like that. Gumpy, you like the Colts? We're going to be in there. Yeah, also favorite bet of the weekend. Geno Smith, the throwing interceptions, is minus 130.

2:03:28He's doing it in every game. He does.

2:03:30Pat McAfee:He gets a little loose with it. Minus 130 is way too short. Yeah, but the Chicago picks were a great place. I mean, like Geno, the Chicago Bears defense was gobble, gobble, gobble, like Pac-Man on his wrist, you know, doing his thing. Broncos, Eagles, Eagles favored by three and a half at home. Toxic table, anything we should think about there? Not really. I think this is kind of a run of the mill. I think both teams are fairly healthy. We'll see. The Denver defense, obviously, has been very, very stout early, so kind of good on good here. Yeah, Denver might have figured it out on offense, too.

2:04:05Like, they're kind of clicking Sutton. Franklin's going. Mims was going last game. Dobbins. Yeah, Dobbins is going. They're tight end. Trotman. Ingram, I'm not sure if he's banged up or not, actually, because I think he did. Yeah, he is a little bit, so I don't know if he's playing. But, yeah, Broncos might be figuring it out right now.

2:04:23Pat McAfee:Okay, so I'm going to go with the Eagles, minus three and a half. Yep. AJ, I didn't hear anything you said, by the way. We lost you guys for most of your take. Good, good. For most of your take, we lost you. Eagles, Eagles, stick to the Eagles. Yeah, Eagles should be good in this one. Yeah, I honestly, yeah. Let's just try to build up the Broncos. Take the Eagles. Hold on. Oh, so I completely countered your entire – we didn't hear a thing over here. It completely froze up. We didn't even know if we were – you built up the Broncos that whole time? No, no. We both were just like, the defense sucks.

2:04:54Offense, they're just not there yet. And the Eagles are old. So it wouldn't make sense to take the Broncos here. I heard it. I'm actually taking the Broncos here in this one. But I did hear the... Wait, I like to be swayed. I like to hear what people say. Broncos, you can get a plus four and a half as well. Oh, never mind. Never mind, never mind. Fangio, revenge game against the Broncos. He's going to lock Bo Nix the fuck down. Good call.

2:05:16Pat McAfee:I didn't hear any of this pro Broncos stuff you said. but I did just hear a couple pro Eagles things. I'll take the Eagles minus 3.5. Dallas Cowboys, New York Jets. Cowboys favored by 2.5 in MetLife. This feels too easy. Tone, what is the percentage on this? So you could get the Cowboys minus a half. You could get the Jets plus 2.5. And the percentage on this one is? What am I missing? The Cowboys 66 % are in the Cowboys. Yeah, me too. Minus a half. Last time Cowboys went on the road, everyone thought they were going to beat the Bears and they got shite kicked. Maybe it's just the Cowboys run defense is kind of shite.

2:05:56Or defense in general. Yeah, or defense in general. Braylon Allen out, so they just got Breeze ball now.

2:06:03Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Bruce just put up on the monitor. He said this is potentially what people are talking about. Well, Justin Fields can't really sling it. Whoa! Whoa. They don't choose to. They had two pass attempts in the first two quarters. I mean, can they run it for a couple of years? Aaron Glenn's looking for his first win, too, as a coach. You know, it's going to be a whole game ball situation if he finds a way to get a win. I'll take the Jets. I'm taking the Jets. Just because this is stinky. This is super stinky. I have no idea what. I'll take the Jets. Plus, I can get five points. Is that what you said?

2:06:36Pat McAfee:Two and a half. I can get the Cowboys at minus. One and a half. Oh, give me the Cowboys. I mean, come on now. Dak is seeing the field. We know that. Give me the Cowboys. All right, I got the Jets plus two. What a f***. That's ugly. Do it. How's that even come out of my mom? It's hard. I mean, honestly, we have no clue. The NFL, like, we don't know. The coaches don't know. It is wild. In the Jets' defense, if they didn't turn the ball over, you know. If, if, if, if, if, if, if. If they didn't fumble three times and have 40 penalties, they'd probably win that game. Dolphins defense did play great, though.

2:07:16Pat McAfee:Okay. I'll take the Jets plus two and a half. What a terrible. That's disgusting. Never know. Let's go, Jets. Let's go, boys. J-E-T-S. Jets. Jets. Jets. Yeah, bingo. We're all rolling tide down there. All right. Good luck, Jets. New York Giants, New Orleans Saints. Saints favored by two and a half. All right. I'll take the Giants. What? What's going on? You want to talk about stinky lines. What's going on? It's about as stinky as it gets. Who do you like? You like the Saints in it? I love the Giants, but it reeks. It does. This is a little Dan Orlovsky explaining a bad take right now. Tone, what's going on with this particular line?

2:07:51Pat McAfee:Because I saw a video from the New York Giants social media team. It feels like the boys are very tight over there. They were all reenacting who Scadaboo is, doing an impression of Scadaboo. And I guess he just shakes his head and yells. I guess that's like who he is. He's a rookie. He's beloved. Jackson Dart obviously does his thing. It wasn't the prettiest game, I guess, for his debut. but Bruce, why are the Saints favored by 2.5 just strictly because they don't think old Jackson and Scadaboo can handle the South? Is that what's happening? I think there are some better lines out there for, you know, if you were to take the Saints than laying the full 2.5, but it is trappy.

2:08:26Vibes are a little too high. Jackson Dart, MVP. Everybody loves Camp Scadaboo. I'm a little bit worried going in, but hey, Jackson Dart 1-0, the Rattlesnake 0-10. What are we talking about? Jackson Dart to score a touchdown plus 210 in the Giants' money line.

2:08:44Pat McAfee:Connor, this is stinky. Yeah, it is very stinky. I think we should listen to Bob Sala here. He said Rattler's going to be a household name now. Okay. And also the Saints weren't that bad in Buffalo. It wasn't that ugly. They only had one real bad game this year. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't really until the worst Philly Philly of all time. They were cooked. Bingo. All right, I'll take the Saints. Minus two and a half. AJ, who are you taking? You can get a minus one and a half if you want the Saints. Ooh, ooh, ooh. All right, sweet. I don't know why. Literally, this just doesn't make sense. To me, to my brain, I just go, Giants, good vibes.

2:09:21Pat McAfee:They're going to win this game. And then it's like, well, what are the sports books? Why are they doing that? Why are they? This is probably the only game the Saints have a chance to win, I would say, this year. Maybe that's why the line's so weird. Yeah. All right, give me Kelly Moe getting a first big dub, minus one and a half. AJ, who do you got? I'm with the Giants. What, plus two and a half tone? Yeah. Okay, Giants. Why am I doing this, though? I should just pick my pick. I love Spencer. I'm a legit Spencer Adler fan. I have been for a while, so I wouldn't be shocked if the Saints win the game.

2:09:50But they don't have fo-fo and six in the trap. What a big blue. Big blue.

2:09:57Pat McAfee:I don't like this one, man. I don't feel good about any of these. I don't like what I did last week, and I don't like any of these. Dolphins and Panthers. Dolphins favored. Okay. 88 % of the money is all Panthers. Yeah. I'll take the Panthers on this one, fellas. Give me the Panthers. Bounce back for the Panthers. Here we go. We lost you again. We lost you again. You're frozen a little bit. Oh, yeah. You're frozen a bit. We can hear you, though. I'm sure you're going to take a lot of good opinion. We can hear you. We can hear you. We can hear you. Neither can gum. Okay, so you can't hear us, but we can hear you.

2:10:28Pat McAfee:They said they can hear us, but they can't see us. We're frozen. I'm going to hold up a C. I'm taking Carolina. That's for the Carolina Panthers. And now we can't see or hear that. Yeah, it might be a leave. Looks like we're going to end. Tompy said 88%. I didn't see that number. He said 88 % is on the Carolina Panthers. I saw 51 % on the Carolina Panthers. What do you think happens, Tom? I'm not going to watch this game. I'm not going to bet on this game. Respectfully. Why are you only bringing it up when he can't hear you? Yeah. He knows. I said it to him yesterday. I don't think Gump can you hear us now Are you guys back Can you hear us Yeah Gumpy said AJ has never once Picked a dolphin since the beginning Well while you guys were gone he took Carolina So Yeah I heard that part that's why I said it You know what Pizza and sandwiches for concussions Give me the Carolina Panthers

2:11:30Darren Waller Plus 250 to get in the paint and he's going to play more.

2:11:34Pat McAfee:That's a good one. I agree. I forgot about top play. I fucking loved Aaron Waddle. He's good, man. He's good. I'm so happy for him. They said Eric Waddle was mic'd up, I guess, in a series. HM was mic'd up when they did the touchdown, and Waddle just goes, you're just like a big bear. And he's just like, you're massive. He's so big. It was awesome. Guy didn't play football for two years. They put him in, like, must-have-it situations. He has two touchdowns, and he's on the damn handset. Can we make this big so we can see the graphics on there? Next one's Titans. There it is. Oh. No, that zoom screen is.

2:12:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, if we could just. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so the Titans and the Cardinals. Cardinals favored by seven and a half at home. So many points. This stinks. It's a tough slate. This slate stinks. It truly is. It does. It really does. It truly is. No, guys, never know. There's going to be some good ball games, but it's a tough slate. I'm taking the Cardinals. I'm taking the Cardinals. Because AQ Shipley's on the call? I'm part of it. I think they're going to feel his positive vibes, yeah. All right, I'm flipping this thing. This side is Cardinals up. The whole side is Titans on the mat.

2:12:52Pat McAfee:All right, I'll take the Titans. You can get the Titans plus 8.5. Oh, 8.5. Give me the Titans plus 8.5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers versus the Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks favored by four and a half at home. Obviously, we're all wondering if the home field advantage will continue for the Seattle Seahawks. Adam Schefter has reported that the Buccaneers have officially ruled out running back Bucky Irving for Sunday's game at Seattle due to his sprained foot. Mike Evans, Benjamin Morrison, Jim Dean, and Christian also ruled out for Sunday for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. AJ, does that sway you one way or the other, brother?

2:13:27Pat McAfee:That does sway me a bit. I was somewhat leaning Seahawks. Now I'm stamping it. Give me the Seahawks here. You can get the Seahawks minus three. I love the Seahawks minus three. Yeah, give me Seahawks. Wow. What do you think? I like the Bucs getting four and a half. It's hard because I'm torn. I love Baker. I love Sam Darnold as well. I'm a big fan of these guys. It's going to be tight. For whatever reason, McDonald's way better on the road than he is at home. Abouka scores every game, and I think Chris Godwin gets in the paint here too. Okay. Second game back. How?

2:14:00Pat McAfee:Connor Yeah Gut instinct, who are you going with? Last year I lost a fantasy football playoff game Because I did not start Baker Because they were playing the Chargers And I thought, oh, this is a long flight They're going to suck They kicked the shit out of the Chargers So, I mean, everything in me tells me to take Seattle But it feels like Tampa And I can get, what, four and a half, you said? Yeah Five and a half, maybe? I'm not seeing one right now. It might get to five by Sunday. It might get to five by Sunday. I don't know. 71 % is on Tampa, so I don't know if it's going to move anymore. Not as much as 88 on Carolina, right?

2:14:37Pat McAfee:Okay, I'll take the Seahawks then with what the sports books. I wanted to take the Bucs, which they still might win this thing, but I guess I'll do minus three for the Seahawks. Washington, Los Angeles Chargers, three and a half. Both these teams have to truly stamp and figure out who they are. Jayden Daniels. Is he playing? Yes. Justin Herbert.

2:15:02Pat McAfee:Any other injuries for Chargers? Matt. Joel. They've had some line injuries. I don't know of any on the defense. But so you know, you get Chargers minus 2.5, and you get Commanders plus 3.5. Okay. Who you got, AJ? Terry McLaurin and Noah Brown both aren't even traveling to L.A. Yeah. You know what? Give me the Washington Commanders. I'll take them. What do I get them at? Plus three and a half. Plus three and a half. Okay. I'll take the Chargers minus three and a half. Lions favored by ten and a half against the Bengals in the jungle. AJ, Cincinnati fans are getting smacked in the mouth right now.

2:15:38Pat McAfee:No home field advantage because, you know, that's three, four points. That's two touchdowns with the Lions actually favored by going into Cincinnati. Cincinnati Bengals have looked a lot like ass as football team. Obviously, Joe Burrow gets hurt. Jake Browning is their QB. Zach Taylor hasn't really made a lot of things happen for them, and they are a tough watch. They're still on Thanksgiving night, from what I've been told, Ty. Is that accurate? That is correct. We are actively trying to get them to change that as we speak. We'll see what happens. Do we know who the ruler of the jungle is for this game?

2:16:09That's a good question.

2:16:11Pat McAfee:Good question. AJ? Is it AJ? It should be. If it's Pac-Man Jones, I'm taking the Bengals. You think Pac-Man? If it was Pac-Man Jones, I would take the Bengals as well, just so we are clear. I would take it. Can we Google that? It's a comedian in Cincinnati. Gary Owen. Oh, Gary! I love Gary. I enjoy the hell out of Gary. Thank you for your service, too, Gary. Obviously, former military man. Gary is awesome. I don't think this should be the game he said yes to. I fucking love Gary. David Montgomery homecoming game for what it's worth. And then last year, the Lions against absolute shite teams, 52-14 against the Titans, 52-6 against the Jags.

2:16:58Pat McAfee:They both had their backups in that game as well. So we don't really mess around with backup quarterbacks. No, you do not. Hey, G, you need to somehow get out of being a ruler this weekend. You don't need that on your record. I'll take the Lions minus 10.5. AJ? Lions minus 10.5. Oh, no! 10.5. I don't love it. What are you putting in? Bruce is a good one. I don't know what I'm doing. What do you want me to do, bro? Take me the way. And then Sunday Night Football, because we've gotten into the bye week era of this particular NFL season. Early buys for Steelers and Green Bay, especially that Steelers team.

2:17:37Pat McAfee:Older team. Long road here into the playoffs. If they want to make a run, that's going to be a very long one. And then the Bears come off their best week. They have a bye. Will they be able to continue? The Falcons, obviously, they were in the trenches, I think, their offensive line. Maybe they're finding it. And then Jordan Love, obviously fresh out of a tie, getting a chance to go ahead and sleep on that for an entire week. Patriots-Bills, historically great games. Right, Connor, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah, for the most part, they have been very good, even when Mack Jones and the Pats were struggling.

2:18:07They still gave the Bills problems.

2:18:10Pat McAfee:And, you know, Josh Allen is wearing the Super Snow game. Yeah, he's got his NFL rivalry blizzard jersey on. And we would like to tell the NFL We like their rivalry jerseys. We appreciate, we like this genre of throwbacks. We think they did a great job. From 9.30 a.m. on NFL Network, we're going to have NFL football, all the way through Josh Allen in some sick snow tarps taking on New England on Sunday Night Football. There's been a lot of chatter about not a lot of notable games. It's going to start great, it's going to end great, and it's going to be Buffalo Bills winning by less than 8.5 points.

2:18:46Pat McAfee:Give me the New England Patriots and Drake May doing his thing on the biggest stage of the day. Now, Connor, there's been a lot of graphics you've been posting. Have you been leaving graphics out that I haven't seen about Drake May? Everything is up and to the right for this guy. Yeah, I actually haven't been leaving graphics out. That was just one that I picked. Most graphics that he's on, he's in that Q1 top right. It is wild. I don't know how it happened, but Drake May is unbelievable. I think the fodder around the Patriots is a little too hot right now. Feels as though this might be a comeback to earth game, but also a, hey, we are not in the Bills category just yet, but if they keep it close, a competitive game, maybe Diggs scores a touchdown.

2:19:33We get a cool little side eye to Josh Allen like we did last year when Diggs was in Houston. So I don't know. I think it's going to be close, but yeah, it feels as though the Bills will still get it done. They just always find a way.

2:19:45Pat McAfee:Ty, Drake May better than Jordan Love already? Is that what people are saying? I mean, you know, right now some of the stats bear that out. But, you know, Drake May still – we got to see him do it in the playoffs. You know, Jordan Love, people forget, does have a playoff win under his belt. On the road, no less so. But, listen, Drake May is a ball player. He's another one of those guys. Every Sunday it seems like he does three to four things where it's just like, Holy shit. I didn't know this guy could do that. He's been great so far. Who do you like, Gumps? I love the Patriots. Stephon Diggs, first time back in Buffalo since he was traded as well.

2:20:20Pat McAfee:I love that. Is eight and a half the most I can get with the Patriots? Yes, it is. AJ, are you riding with us? What's your reasoning? Yeah, I think the Bills are going to the Super Bowl, but I'm taking New England here to cover. So, yeah, give me the Patriots. Bills have been like the Chiefs from yesteryear, not covering but winning. Yeah. We've been losing money on this Buffalo Bills. The sportsbooks know that we all love the Buffalo Bills. Sportsbooks know that we all love Josh Allen. Last week couldn't cover. Two weeks ago didn't cover. This week, will they be able to cover? I don't think so.

2:20:54Pat McAfee:I think they win, though. We all think they win, but we don't think they cover. They still can't stop the run. Trevion Henderson played more last game, too. But there's also a chance that the Buffalo Bills win by 50. I don't know. I don't know if a variable team has that. Ugly against the Saints. You don't think Vrabel? Yeah, I just feel like Vrabel's going to have him ready to go. If you do look at those graphs, that mean nothing, but still people post and act like they do. Our D-line's very good. They do get pressure. They get home. It feels as though an 8.5, to your point, the sportsbooks know everyone loves the Bills and they're so good.

2:21:32I mean, the Patriots have scored 42 points and Drake may not play in the fourth quarter. 8.5 points doesn't make sense if you're looking at last week's games. but if you're just looking at a game like a mark, you might just say, hey, the Bills are the Bills. They're going to win by two touchdowns, but they'll probably end up winning by like a touchdown or a field goal.

2:21:50Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, it is that time again. I might be screwed by the wall. I don't think so.

2:21:59There it is. Oh, oh, oh, oh. A little harder. There we go. Yes. Oh, boom.

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2:22:44Pat McAfee:DoorDash, your tag team partner for a better life. Thank you, Gums, for bringing that pizza back. That was really nice. Hell yeah. How are those 215 tours going, Pat?

2:22:57Pat McAfee:On that note, on that note. You know, the guy isn't the coach here anymore, but it is nice that we're friends with him. We will probably overstate our welcome here. And on that note, big shout-out to everybody here at Alabama for allowing us to be a part of this. Big shout-out to the entire ESPN production crew that put this together in a tunnel. We're very, very thankful, very, very grateful. It has been a wonderful time thus far here in T-Town. We will try to continue to enjoy our day. Going to eat all the food we can at Saban's house tonight. Yep, please. Roll Tide. We're going to try to roll Tide the shit out of that house.

2:23:28Pat McAfee:Jack and Diet. Take a nap. Take a nap in the guest room if you need to. Little ditty about Jack and Dye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy sucks growing up in the hot lane. Whoa, whoa, whoa. My bad. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I was outside. Inside voice came outside. I didn't mean that. I'm sorry. Now, on that note, that guy could have easily just came out on my side when the rest of the world was attacking me. But instead, he decided to take the other team's side. So it will be fuck that guy forever. But he does have great songs. Let's not get that quick. No doubt about that. He does have a few titties.

2:24:06Pat McAfee:She did. AJ, we appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. Honestly, thank you for traveling out there. Talks with the table. Great work this week. Tone, incredible job. Behind the glass, I appreciate the hell out of you guys. Good work, Foxy. Good work, Bruce. Good week. Good work, boys. Nick, Bill, Dirty. Talk, obviously. Big week for Talk, Bill, Dirty, Foxy. Launch Rushmore this week. Yeah. Congratulations on that. Go, boys. Hell yeah, boys. Congratulations on that, boys. Mitt, keep kicking ass, brother. There's about to be a time where Mitt's about to shine in a big way. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:24:40Pat McAfee:Just know Mitt season's right around the corner. If we can get him to it. If we can get him to it. And he doesn't, you know, stumble getting there. Sure. Yep. There he is. That boy's fucking good, dude. He's my time. Give him a lot, dude. It's my time now. Dude, fuck yeah. Bro, I'm a fucking show, dude. Fucking go, dude. Great work out of D-Bone, obviously, this week. D-Bone had a huge week. I appreciate him allowing me the opportunity to showcase how many shoes I have at the Thunderdome. I don't know if you saw the lineup there, AJ. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, I think it's like 64 or 65 of them.

2:25:19Pat McAfee:Honestly, I have no idea how those all fit in my office. You know, as I was pulling those out, I was really surprised about how they all fit in the room that I call my office, which wasn't originally supposed to be my office. It was supposed to be like a little off the kitchen type thing. But obviously, you got the Halley's up there. You got a lot of bronze. You got some Travis Scott's. You got some Jordans, obviously. It is quite a collection, I would say. And I'm very thankful for all the people that have sent me shoes. And obviously, John Geiger's shoes right there. He's writing me a letter, I think, if he was continuing to go down.

2:25:49Pat McAfee:And boom, that one right down there at the bottom. I'm stuck here. Yeah, I understand. It's hard to get down sometimes. John Deere Jordan's right there, fourth one down. So it was nice to kind of see how many shoes I had, what I had going on. And it's all because of Debo. So we should be thanking Debo. Atta boy, Bone. Atta boy, Bone. He made a graphic with me and put Monarchs on my feet. And it was a sponsored graphic. It was a sponsored graphic. And I got nothing against Monarchs. People that wear Monarchs, more power to you. I like it. But I am a guy that enjoys shoes. Like, my feet are a pretty big part of my life.

2:26:26Pat McAfee:And now, granted, people have been saying, Pat, you put TFPs on your feet. It's like, well, we're on the house. Maybe you put those TFPs on. But I love a nice pair of shoes. So I thought it was egregious what D-Bone did to me. So I just felt an obligation to showcase to him, like, hey, these are all the fucking shoes you could have put on me. These are all the things. And to D-Bone's credit, football guy, offensive lineman, dodge his way through and we're on the other side. So we appreciate D-Bone for that. And he stuck up for Cena to Cody. Hell yeah. That was impressive. So it was a huge week for D-Bone, I think.

2:27:01Pat McAfee:Huge week for the program. And the September numbers have come out for us on social, digital. I guess that's kind of the same, but I guess there is Disney Plus and ESPN Plus, which doesn't count as social, even though we all kind of put it together. And our linear numbers. we are so incredibly lucky that's a big number that's everything, that's ESPN +, that's Disney +, that's TikTok that's YouTube, that's X, that's Instagram and obviously that's linear numbers as well we have no idea why anybody chooses to watch this shit and maybe some people are hate watching it, but we appreciate you all so much and hopefully October will only get better, you're the greatest people on earth for allowing us to do this for a living, we are eternally grateful, we also have a podcast a college football podcast with Stanford Steve, episode 3 three.

2:27:47Pat McAfee:Three. Episode three is about the debut as we get the hell out of everybody's way here. We hope you have the greatest weekend of your entire life. Tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. Eastern, 8 a.m. local. We'll be live here in Alabama. Nick Saban will be getting celebrated. Vandy's in the national spotlight. And a weekend of football is going to kick off in spectacular fashion. You're the greatest people on earth. Never, ever forget it. We appreciate you. It's been the dumbest life of all time. And the fact that you all allow us to do that is incredibly kind. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice.

2:28:16Pat McAfee:It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. AJ, anything? What's Bruce and AQC? Have a better one next week.

2:28:30I mean,

2:28:30Pat McAfee:plagiarism is certainly a cool thing. No, no. It's a flattery, you know. Also, Gump, if you're taking a dump in Sam's house, he'll kick the door down on you. It's true. Don't do it. Don't do a Jim Mercer dump in Joshua. Oh, yeah, exactly. That might be a problem. All right. Have a great weekend, boys. We miss you. We'll see you soon. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-CONTACTS.

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