In short
Overreaction Monday sports talk focused on NFL Week 5 comeback chaos, plus previews and hot takes on multiple teams (Bengals, Jets, Lions, Buccaneers, Colts, Patriots), and a broader discussion of coaching/roster culture. They also cover the 1972 Dolphins undefeated season milestone, and end with Adam Schefter’s additional NFL storylines (including Broncos’ fourth-quarter comeback and Patriots/Drake May).
Guests (backgrounds)
- Darius J. Butler: 9-year NFL veteran; host of “Everything DB.” Former defensive back.
- Andrew Whitworth (“Fitz and Whit”): 16-year NFL veteran; Thursday Night Football analyst/crew member.
- Ryan Fitzpatrick (“Fitz and Whit”): 17-year NFL veteran; Thursday Night Football analyst/crew member.
- Adam Schefter: ESPN senior NFL insider.
- (Also referenced within the episode’s guest segment) The Thursday Night Football pre-show crew is described as Amazon’s streaming team; Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit are credited as part of the broadcast ecosystem.
Key claims / notable examples
- Week 5 “comeback chaos” stats: 16 games with a go-ahead score in the final minute; 10 game-winning field goals with no time left since the 1970 merger era.
- Cardinals “lost in the worst possible way” after a goal-line mishap involving a flip/fumble discussion; Titans get their first win.
- Bengals “somewhat ass” without Joe Burrow: outscored 104-16 in three games; offensive line looked overwhelmed in late-game snaps vs Browns.
- Jets “less ass” than Bengals; discussion of no-turnover defensive performance and Justin Fields playing well.
- Buccaneers: Baker Mayfield portrayed as “dialed in,” winning late; emphasis on first-time OC Joshua Griesar and improving offensive line health (Tristan Wirfs returning).
- Colts: Danny Jones and the offense “speaking the same language” as the line; defense led by Lou Anarumo; Super Bowl talk.
- Patriots: Drake May highlighted on national stage, including big plays to Stephon Diggs; Ray Bull credited with culture shift; Patriots framed as in the playoff hunt.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on NFL Highlights
0:45 to 3:17
Hosts discuss notable games and storylines from the NFL weekend.
“on this particular overreaction Monday than maybe you have been in a while.”
Interview with Fitz and Whit
3:17 to 6:24
Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth join to discuss their experiences in broadcasting Thursday Night Football.
“Let's talk about you guys on this Thursday night games.”
Top Five Storylines from Week 5
6:24 to 8:00
The hosts break down the top five storylines from NFL Week 5, including comebacks and team performances.
“Is the tip of the ball breaking the line?”
Analysis of Bengals and Lions
8:00 to 11:05
Discussion on the struggles of the Bengals and Lions, including key player performances and coaching concerns.
“Turns out it was blowouts across the board.”
Evaluating Team Performances
11:05 to 14:01
Hosts evaluate team performances and discuss player issues in-depth, including the impact of injuries.
“If you look at it, I'm going to throw myself in the mix.”
NFL Week 5 Overview and Player Discussions
14:01 to 17:48
A recap of NFL Week 5, analyzing player performances and team dynamics.
“You're the one that's getting paid$120 million.”
Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers' Performance
17:49 to 21:43
An in-depth look at Baker Mayfield's impact on the Buccaneers and their recent games.
“Yeah, May's fodder's Josh Allen and May's fodder's fodder's Rife is Magic.”
Celebrating the 1972 Dolphins and Miami Distractions
21:44 to 24:20
Discussion on the 1972 Dolphins' legacy and the challenges of winning in Miami.
“Carolina Panthers is not supposed to win this.”
Colts' Potential and Team Dynamics
24:21 to 28:00
Exploring the Colts' current season, quarterback dynamics, and team potential.
“first 15 that has now ran about 20 minutes or so, Coltsco and Super Bowl.”
Colts' Resurgence and Quarterback Success
28:00 to 35:01
Discuss the Colts' improved performance and the importance of quarterback fit.
“So it's like everybody is all in, literally from the top all the way down to everybody is all in for the Colts right now.”
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Introduction of Adam Schefter
35:01 to 35:39
Introduction of Adam Schefter, senior NFL insider, and his insights.
“Yeah, but what's he going to do to Carly?”
NFL Week 5 Highlights and Insights
35:39 to 40:52
Analysis of key NFL games and standout performances from Week 5.
“I was dressing up for Fitzy and Big Witt.”
Coaching Decisions and Team Dynamics
40:52 to 42:00
Discussion on coaching decisions and team challenges in the NFL.
“Shepty, do you have any experience with hamstring injuries just in your athletic career?”
NFL Coaching Changes and Player Performance
42:00 to 45:34
Discussing potential coaching changes in the NFL and player performance analysis.
“I mean, are we going to draw this out and we don't really have anything to worry about?”
Monday Night Football Preview
45:34 to 49:40
Previewing the upcoming Monday Night Football game with insights on team dynamics and injuries.
“Mac Jones did say the right things because I think that's the real situation right now where he's going to be in a situation where he's called upon when Brock's not playing and he'll step in and play the way he did.”
The Stumpy Stampede Corgi Race
49:40 to 52:10
Sharing a humorous recount of participating in a corgi race with personal anecdotes.
“I'm just saying I wanted to get ready for game time.”
In-Stadium Entertainment Highlights
52:10 to 56:00
Discussing various forms of in-stadium entertainment and their impact on fans.
“Chuck was the only one out there without a collar on.”
The Fun of Game Experiences
56:00 to 58:08
Explore entertaining moments from recent games and performances.
“Golden State Warriors, dance team, 55 and up.”
Football Insights with Whit and Fitz
58:19 to 1:01:17
A recap of a recent football game and insights from players.
“and they stopped by and they brought a plate from 1587 Prime Steakhouse, which is Patrick and Travis Kelsey's here.”
Analyzing the Chiefs vs. Jaguars Matchup
1:01:17 to 1:08:24
Discuss tactics and expectations for the upcoming Chiefs-Jaguars game.
“Tonight, we have a great Chiefs-Jaguars battle.”
Travis Hunter's Dual Role Discussion
1:08:24 to 1:10:01
Debate on the challenges of Travis Hunter playing both defense and offense.
“and cornerback, but just the mental aspect of it, game in and game out.”
The Balancing Act of Football Strategies
1:10:01 to 1:12:41
Explore the challenges teams face in balancing offensive and defensive strategies.
“It's like if you have to really put everything into both sides, are you kind of just watering down what he does so well on both sides?”
The Impact of Star Players on Game Dynamics
1:12:42 to 1:16:21
Discuss the significance of star players and their roles in team performance.
“This whole entire day have been thinking to myself, they better play Travis Hunter every single snap on offense.”
Coaching Stability and Team Performance
1:16:22 to 1:23:51
Analyze the implications of coaching changes and team performance in the NFL.
“And I genuinely think this is going to be a great football game.”
Tennessee Titans' Surprising Victory
1:24:00 to 1:25:10
Discussion on the unexpected events and outcomes in the Titans game.
“you'd hope that there would be another great coach just right around the corner.”
Baker Mayfield and the Bucs' Comeback
1:25:10 to 1:26:44
Analysis of Baker Mayfield's performance and the Bucs' recent game wins.
“I don't even know what AQ Shippen's thoughts are.”
Dylan Gabriel's NFL Debut
1:26:44 to 1:28:56
Insight into Dylan Gabriel's first start and the Vikings' performance.
“and their uniforms were definitely filthy yesterday.”
Carson Wentz's Impact and Performance
1:28:56 to 1:30:09
Exploration of Carson Wentz's playing style and his contributions to recent games.
“AJ, they're calling him Carson Wentz, bro.”
Mark Sanchez's Incident in Indianapolis
1:30:09 to 1:32:45
Discussion of Mark Sanchez's stabbing incident and its implications for Indianapolis.
“Then he bounces around, comes here to Indy.”
Tragic Story of Tyron Lacey
1:32:45 to 1:38:00
A reflection on the tragic circumstances surrounding Tyron Lacey's death.
“There was probably every baseball and NBA jersey was represented.”
Tragic Story of Kyron Lacey
1:38:00 to 1:40:55
Discuss the unfortunate circumstances surrounding Kyron Lacey's death and the implications of false allegations.
“And his lawyer in postpartum at his funeral told him, hey, I got your back.”
Skycam Controversy in Football
1:40:55 to 1:42:50
Debate the impact of Skycam on gameplay and whether it should be removed.
“And whatever ends up happening here, it's like well-deserved.”
Justin Fields' Arm Strength
1:42:50 to 1:44:50
Analyze Justin Fields' performance and the significance of a football hitting a Skycam.
“I'm just like any other drone out there.”
MLB Playoffs Update
1:44:50 to 1:49:18
Provide updates on the MLB playoffs, highlighting key games and player performances.
“Ty, can you please give us all an update on what's happening in baseball?”
Casual Banter and NFL References
1:52:01 to 1:52:32
The hosts share lighthearted conversation and NFL references.
“That was probably where I assume were the Maple Leafs play.”
NFL Week 5 Highlights and Reactions
1:52:52 to 1:54:06
Discussion of standout performances and games from NFL Week 5.
“It has been spectacular to follow along with.”
Gabby Mathis's Kick Experience
1:54:07 to 1:55:11
A detailed recount of Gabby Mathis's experience kicking at a game.
“I can't believe Herbie could throw it that far.”
Gabby's Journey to the Kick
1:55:12 to 1:56:59
The build-up to Gabby's kick and the reactions during the process.
“He goes, why didn't she, could she have picked somebody?”
Celebration and Support for Gabby
1:57:00 to 2:00:10
Celebrating Gabby's perseverance and the support from the hosts.
“Whole play starts going one more shot, one more kick or whatever.”
Reflections on Coaching Changes in College Football
2:00:11 to 2:06:00
Discussion on coaching changes in college football and recent games.
“I guess in hindsight it is kind of disrespectful, AJ, to a Herbie.”
College Football Chaos: Upsets and Rankings
2:06:00 to 2:07:06
Discussion on recent college football games and shock upsets affecting rankings.
“So, they were ranked, what, second preseason?”
Bama vs. Vandy: Close Game Analysis
2:07:06 to 2:08:24
Analysis of the Alabama vs. Vanderbilt game, praising players and discussing game dynamics.
“of absolute pandemonium happening around Bulls.”
Miami's Strong Performance Against Florida State
2:08:24 to 2:10:04
Recap of Miami's game against Florida State, highlighting standout players and team dynamics.
“Turns to the side and just stands like, I don't know where he was going.”
Ohio State's Dominant Defensive Performance
2:10:04 to 2:12:36
Discussion on Ohio State's defense and recent game performance, including key players.
“I get the Miami offense film breakdown that I'm going to do for game day.”
Clemson's Struggles and Bill Belichick's Future
2:12:36 to 2:16:48
Insight into Clemson's recent struggles and future prospects for Bill Belichick and his recruiting strategy.
“and the studs that Ohio State has on defense because they are, they are very fun to watch.”
Fan Reactions and Broadcast Moments
2:16:48 to 2:20:00
Discussion on fan reactions during games and a humorous broadcast moment featuring a student's interview.
“It's like they still very much believe that, yes, it's going to take some time.”
The Importance of Change in Football
2:20:00 to 2:21:46
Discussion about the perception of changes needed in football teams based on social media feedback.
“I heard he was number one in the country in turnover-worthy plays or something like that.”
Nick Saban's Impact and Legacy
2:21:46 to 2:23:15
Reflection on Nick Saban's contributions to college football and his relationship with fans.
“And I saw him smile and take it in, you know, because I think there was a lot of reminiscing, obviously.”
Insights on Ty Simpson and Alabama Football
2:23:15 to 2:25:08
Analysis of quarterback Ty Simpson's potential and the current state of Alabama football.
“And once again, they're using money that was brought in by – but Kalen's got his own team there.”
Arm Wrestling with Turbo
2:25:08 to 2:27:01
Lighthearted exchange about an arm wrestling match with a young fan named Turbo.
“and start yelling and hitting his chest, like, hey, let me throw this thing.”
Theo Vaughn's Comedy and Insights
2:27:01 to 2:29:15
Discussion on Theo Vaughn's comedic style and some memorable moments from a recent event.
“but he went over top early with his grip.”
Nick Saban's Quirks and Relatability
2:29:15 to 2:31:08
Light-hearted stories about Nick Saban and his unique personality traits.
“Well, he's got a Ferrari dealership, so he obviously has a Ferrari.”
Previewing Upcoming Chiefs vs. Jaguars Game
2:31:08 to 2:34:00
Discussion and analysis of the upcoming football game between the Kansas City Chiefs and Jacksonville Jaguars.
“Gumpy a little bit, and Gumpy took up the opportunity at dinner.”
NFL Week 5 Recap: Jags vs. Chiefs
2:34:00 to 2:36:40
Analysis of the upcoming Monday Night Football matchup between the Jags and Chiefs.
“The Jags are kind of outperforming where we thought they would be at this point, and I would say the opposite for the Chiefs.”
Drake May's Rising Star
2:36:40 to 2:40:45
Discussion on Drake May's performance and potential in the NFL.
“temperature of some of these fan bases, AJ.”
Dolphins' Disappointing Loss
2:40:45 to 2:46:04
Analysis of the Miami Dolphins' recent loss and coaches' future.
“With Caleb, he looked great, could continue, we shall see.”
Community and Tradition at Jimmy's Famous Seafood
2:46:04 to 2:48:01
A look at the community involvement and history of Jimmy's Famous Seafood.
“and emotions in one particular ball game against Carolina Panthers.”
Cicada Parade and Community Impact
2:48:01 to 2:48:38
Discussion about a seafood restaurant's involvement in local events and their crab cakes.
“Somebody pull these pants down, I guess.”
Ravens and Texans Outlook
2:48:38 to 2:50:11
Analyzing the current challenges faced by the Ravens and the opportunity for the Texans.
“They also host the Tail Goat, where they raise a bunch of money before Baltimore Ravens game.”
Nick Sirianni's Coaching Style
2:50:11 to 2:51:54
Debate on Nick Sirianni's effectiveness and the perception of his coaching role.
“I'm wondering which brand of bleach tastes the best thanks to the 2025 Ravens.”
Colts' Momentum and Expectations
2:51:54 to 2:54:28
Exploring the unexpected success and rising expectations of the Colts this season.
“I think he's maybe trading a little Bitcoin, maybe a little crypto on his side.”
Raiders vs. Colts Game Analysis
2:54:28 to 2:57:20
Discussion on the Raiders' performance against the Colts and the implications for both teams.
“So coming into the season as a Dolphin fan, expecting them probably suck.”
Colts' Defensive Strategy
2:57:20 to 2:58:56
Insight into the Colts' defensive strategy under Lou Anarumo and its impact on the game.
“I believe Fitzy said fit in timing when it comes to quarterback play, and that's where Danny Dimes is right now.”
Geno Smith's Performance
2:58:56 to 3:00:09
Evaluating Geno Smith's performance and the overall issues facing the Seahawks.
“Yeah, and on the flip side, who was the person who put the tweet, the Raiders?”
Carly Ursa's Role and Insights
3:00:09 to 3:02:00
Carly Ursa's involvement with the Colts and her insights on team dynamics.
“You could say you told the room before the game?”
Colts' Current Situation and Expectations
3:02:00 to 3:04:19
Discussion about the Colts' promising position and the expectations surrounding them.
“These shoes, though, had big pad on the bottom.”
Disappointment Among Penn State Fans
3:04:20 to 3:05:00
Fans express their frustration over Penn State's performance and expectations.
“And that's where Penn State's at right now.”
Critical Losses and Future Challenges
3:05:01 to 3:07:10
Analyzing the implications of Penn State's losses and their challenging schedule ahead.
“They're going to go to Iowa, brother, don't they?”
Debate Over a Controversial Touchdown Call
3:07:11 to 3:08:37
Discussion regarding a disputed call in a recent game and its implications.
“or running backs rather, five-star wide receiver that they probably played$2 million, two of their best defensive linemen.”
Examining the Football Gods and Their Impact
3:08:38 to 3:10:19
A humorous take on how bad plays reflect the wrath of the 'football gods'.
“So that's kind of how our emotions are about it.”
Baker Mayfield's Resilience and Performance
3:10:20 to 3:12:46
Analysis of Baker Mayfield's competitive spirit and recent performance.
“Because that bear always comes back for seconds.”
Baker's Unique Motivation
3:12:47 to 3:13:54
Exploring how Baker Mayfield thrives off adversity and crowd interactions.
“You know, you had, like, Phillip Rivers.”
The Importance of City Pride in Team Success
3:13:55 to 3:15:12
Reflecting on how a successful sports team can uplift a city's spirit.
“No, no, no, but it is, it's not, like, I'm not kidding, and I was telling, I forget who I was talking to last night because I sent so many texts, like, pats her back, motherfucker.”
Browns Fans' Frustration with Coaching Decisions
3:15:13 to 3:16:00
A critical look at the Browns' coaching and management amidst fan disappointment.
“Another season, another fucking wasted year, Miles Garrett's prime.”
Deshaun Watson's Return
3:16:00 to 3:17:20
Discussing the potential return of Deshaun Watson and team dynamics.
“But honestly, though, isn't Deshaun Watson going to be healthy at some point?”
Trade Deadline Speculations
3:17:20 to 3:19:50
Analyzing the upcoming NFL trade deadline and its implications for teams.
“This one's from Nick Frederick, I do believe.”
Yankees Disappointment
3:19:50 to 3:21:40
Reviewing the Yankees' performance and recent losses against the Blue Jays.
“We're going to have to find sound on it.”
Jets Fan Frustration
3:21:40 to 3:25:10
Exploring Jets fans' frustrations and the team's historical struggles.
“Maybe Herbstrick gets out there and throws one.”
Game Predictions and Wrap-Up
3:25:10 to 3:27:10
Making predictions for tonight's NFL game and closing thoughts.
“Eagles was the closest to Pittsburgh game that he could get to.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Overreaction Monday, October 6, 2025, this program begins right now. Football! It is magical and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. It's a massive Overreaction Monday. We had comebacks in abundance both yesterday and on Saturday we had absolute chaos in college ball. Baseball still happening. Obviously, the WNBA has its finals. It's a great day to be in the sports world. We'll be covering it all. We have Adam Schefter joining us in about 15 minutes or so. And the Talks to Tables here at Boston Corner, who has become a New England Patriots billboard after a huge night last night.
0:42Pat McAfee:Seems like you're a little bit louder in your fandom of the Patriots on this particular overreaction Monday than maybe you have been in a while. Huge. Okay, and that's a Drake May. Okay, obviously, you got the Drake May mug. I mean, it's pretty standard. I don't know why we're doing this whole thing like, you know, this is Monday, but I don't know. What are you guys talking about? It's just, I don't think we've seen that mug used. This one? Okay, so you guys are just screwing around. You're trying to do the whole, this guy doesn't use the May mug every Monday. Okay, Monday May mug. We know it's been a thing.
1:14Pat McAfee:On that note, congratulations. Big win. Thank you. Expected. That's a huge win. And you've been a Drake May supporter even through the very, very rough year of last year. Every single week, your big takeaway about the Patriots was, hey, our team stinks. We really suck. Drake May is a guy. Drake May is a guy. And we'll dive into that in a matter of moments. Nine-year NFL vet, host of everything DB, good, bad, Darius J. Butler. And ladies and gentlemen, joining us on their trip across the country in a bus, representing Amazon's Thursday night football crew. That has done a fantastic job since its rollout.
1:48Pat McAfee:Really, the trailblazers of the new streaming world that professional sports is getting into. Whenever the NFL decided to dabble with Amazon Prime on Thursday nights, there was a lot of people that said this was going to be ass. There was a lot of people that said this was going to be terrible. How the hell do I even download the app? And who's going to be the ones talking? Well, they go and snag Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreit to call the games. Do you know who they are? They're pretty fucking good. And then they put together a pre-show that has a resume-filled, absolute legendary cast that not only knows the game, got a pretty good little moxie.
2:18Oh, yeah. Yes. Great chemistry up there. They're definitely the best pre-show just because it's not the same, you know, run-down crap we've seen for 20 years.
2:26Pat McAfee:And also, we've seen a lot of other crap be tried to put together for their pre-shows and very rarely work because they don't. You know why this one works so well? Yeah, they do because. Yeah. And also, I think it's they don't love ball anymore. Yes. They don't know ball anymore. So they all share, you know, what they had in common used to be this love of ball. They have it. And the two people joining us right now are in the middle of a bus trip from Los Angeles all the way to MetLife because Rams obviously hosted last week, and then this upcoming week we've got the Giants hosting the Philadelphia Eagles.
2:58Pat McAfee:Eagles coming off their first loss, which we will certainly talk about. What type of team is going to be showing up for the New York Giants? We had a tough one down in New Orleans. Ladies and gentlemen, representing Thursday Night Football, Fitz and Whit. Thank you for having us. Appreciate it, baby. 17 years, and then how many for you, Whit? 16. Okay, so quick math. It's 33. I'm not a Harvard guy. 33 years of NFL experience. Let's talk about you guys on this Thursday night games. And we were chit-chatting with them a little bit beforehand. Seems like you guys are a tight-knit crew. Did you guys expect to have the amount of success?
3:27Pat McAfee:And did you hit it off immediately, Fitz, with a Thursday night football game? We did, but there was three guys that had never done TV when we first did it. It was me, Witt, and Richard Sherman, which, you know, Sherman's been auditioning for this thing for his whole career. He was meant to be on TV. He was meant to do it, but for us knuckleheads, we didn't know. And I think that you hit it on the head. We love each other and we love football. We love watching it. We love talking about it. And we like to have a good time, too. Not short of that. I think that's the best part. It's really when you leave the game of football, I think you remember the locker room.
3:57And that's the part, the vibe with all the people you do work with each and every week. We've created that with our crew. From Wednesday when we get in town to Friday when we leave, there's not a lot of sleep and there's a lot of hotel bars staying open late. We have a great time just hanging with each other. And that's what we do.
4:10Pat McAfee:Well, I think that's how you build chemistry. You two phenomenal teammates. So, obviously, having good locker room glue guys around is always going to be good. It seems like you guys are killing it and you are crushing it. And I know you paid attention to what happened yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to hit the top five storylines coming out of week five Sunday. The conversation regarding yesterday's games is going to be, you never know what the fuck's going to happen. It's not just any given Sunday. Brian McCarthy, NFL PR, said it's any given fourth quarter. Now, this one is driven by Ram.
4:41Pat McAfee:Let's put the first 15 minutes on the clock. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get started. Number five, comeback chaos. We got some stats here from Hembo. There have been 16 games this season with a go-ahead score in the final minute of regulation. The most through five weeks of a season since the 1970 merger. Fitz, Harvard guy, how many years has it been since 1970? 55 years. Wow. That's a long time. That's a lot of ball. That's a lot of ball. There have been 10 game-winning field goal with no time left in regulation. The most in the first five weeks since the 1970 merger. Hey, Fitz, Harvard guy, how many years is that?
5:19I didn't see the stats. Since 1970.
5:22Pat McAfee:Since 1970. We got comeback chaos, and yesterday certainly contributed to that. Six of them happened across the board. 18-point deficit, 17-point deficit, 14-point deficit, 11, 10. And then obviously Minnesota kicked off the entire day over there in London town with a magical comeback. Any of these games, Fitz, in your eyes, really steal the show. I saw a tweet that you put out, and you said that the Cardinals just lost in the worst possible way of all time or something like that. I mean, I'm an Arizona guy, so I've been a Cardinals fan for a while. They're getting ready to go up 28-6. And Di Mercado, we did it again.
6:01We did the drop the ball at the one-yard line. Why do we need to flip it? And it happened to Indy last week. So you think that every team is showing the Indy clip and saying, we don't do this, we run through the goal line. He flips it. Was it really a fumble? Was it not? I don't know, but I sure am glad they called it. I don't know. I sure am glad they called it. Football guys.
6:20Pat McAfee:It feels like it was potentially a touchdown because he's flipping that thing. And if it's in the fingertips, it doesn't matter. It's still in his possession. Is the tip of the ball breaking the line? And why don't we have a camera down the line exactly? On that note to what Fitz said, I think everybody around football and in football said, who cares? Shouldn't even be that close. If you're going to drop the ball before getting in the end zone, And one week after A.D. Mitchell did it, you don't deserve a score of touchdown right there. Now, he obviously took his lickings. Coach Gannon on the sideline certainly had his hat sideways.
6:51Pat McAfee:He even hit him in the chest at one point. Like, can't have it. And then the football gods blessed the Titans with their first win. Cam Ward's first win. Callahan's first win. I think we should be celebrating that, D.B. Absolutely. Big-time drive by Cam Ward at the end of the game to get it done. Threw an absolute dot to Calvin Ridley. This play was unbelievable. This was great. Reed Diglett, some shit you absolutely now see on the NFL football field. But, yeah, to see Cam Ward come down after last week, coming out what he said, he's pissed off pretty much, dropped a quarter of the season already, and for him to throw this dot to his big-time receiver and then put his team in a position to win the game.
7:26Big-time moment for his team and for this young quarterback. Good for football yesterday, a comeback. Hey, good for Red Zone channel. We're all still watching. Back to my team. Three of my teams are on that list.
7:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, in a good way. No. Oh, no. Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! Just getting things done out there. But I will say, Scott Hanson did a great job on that thing. And it was a good juggle because a lot of those games were absolute shite. Obviously, you have 18-point comeback, 17-point comeback, 14-point comeback. That late in the game. You think to yourself, this slate of games is kind of shit here. Just like we said it was. We thought this was a bad slate. Turns out it was blowouts across the board. And then all of a sudden, we had magic there. in the witch and the golden eye and witching hour out there.
8:13Pat McAfee:And it's beautiful. The NFL certainly needs that. Let's go to number four headline out of the week. Jackson Bangles. Wolf. Complete ass football teams. Former Jet, former Bangles. So we'll go straight to the Amazon boys here. I'm watching the same shit you are. We'll start with you, the Bangles. I mean, score says it's a little bit closer. because Jamar Chase did his thing. He walked in backwards, actually, at one point yesterday, scoring a touchdown. He's still his thing. Going into the season, though, we thought to ourselves, is that the right way to build a team in winning Super Bowl with the way they're spending the money?
8:49Pat McAfee:Then the star quarterback gets hurt with the way you're building that team. They've looked like ass. Are they complete ass or just somewhat ass? Witt, speaking for the Cincinnati Bengals team. I'm going to go somewhat ass just because they don't have Joe Burrow. That's fair. But I will say this. You could go watch the last three plays of the game against the Cleveland Browns in four-minute offense where they're trying to secure the game. Those three snaps are maybe the worst three snaps I've ever seen of physical football from an offensive line of trying to win out a game. The entire offensive line is moving backwards, those three snaps, and the running back's getting hit as he's taking handoffs.
9:22That told me that if we don't have Joe Burrow and we've got to rely on running the football, we've got a lot of freaking issues. And I think that's what you see. Is this all on Jake Browning to do something? And I don't think Jake Browning's built for that.
9:31Pat McAfee:Ty Schmidt, Detroit Lions, worst team possible to have to play against in this situation that the Bengals were in, And especially Gary Owen. Yeah. Oh, gee, rule in the jungle. We told him on Friday, hey, this is a bad one for you to be ruling the jungle, we thought. Kind of an expected outcome here with the Lions thrashing the Bengals. Yeah, without a doubt. I think you actually have to give the Lions credit because if they would have wanted to, they could have won 50-0, you know, 65-0, could have beat them by 100. It's just tough. I mean, we talked about this last week. This should serve as the final warning.
10:02Get the Bengals off Thanksgiving. We can't do it. We need them off Thanksgiving. We can't do it. We can't do this. Remind them. Remind them. Is that you guys? Yeah. Can't do it. Yeah. Is that you guys? No.
10:10Pat McAfee:No, not us. Okay. Run up the ladder. Get them off Thanksgiving. If it was, then we would pass this cross on to you to bear, okay? Tom Belisero, three games without Joe Burrow. The Bengals have now been outscored 104-16. What are we doing? They started having more, though, at the end of that game. I mean, there was a lot of piling on this particular Bengals team. And we'd like to let the Who Day Nation know that, like, you guys are okay, man. You guys spent the money in the right spots. That's right. These are things you can recover from. What are you laughing, these guys? What are you talking about, dude?
10:41You know, I would like to see them spend it in the offensive line room. That's where I think they should spend a little more money. Hey, they have tried, though.
10:46Pat McAfee:We had a graphic last week about them drafting and spending money, and it just for some reason— They've been terrible at it. That's the problem. So that is the thing. You get the wrong guys, wrong group. What is it? It's since 2011 that they've drafted an offensive lineman, and he's signed a second contract. I want you to think about that. 14 years since they've drafted an O-lineman, and he's actually signed a second contract. Is it scheme, building, evaluation? I think it's evaluation. If you look at it, I'm going to throw myself in the mix. 2011, since they drafted a guy and he re-signed a contract, and they've let Kevin Zeitler and myself walk in free agency.
11:15So if you can't draft an offensive lineman, and then you've let guys leave who continue to go elsewhere and win, you clearly have an evaluation problem of the priority of the position.
11:24Pat McAfee:You struck a nerve right there, Pat. I mean, I'm just saying. Hey, journalism. Good journalism. That's real journalism. Well done, Pat. That's a good job. Thank you. I'm excited to do that. And then let's go to the other team that people were saying. and that's the whole caboose, brother. That's the whole thing. Obviously, the Dallas Cowboys have a big-time day, and we're certainly happy for Dak without a lot of guys playing, which D-Butt's going to hit here in a few moments, I think, having a huge win. But on the flip side, the tweet was floating around yesterday, and the stat was floating around because, obviously, it's a big one.
11:53Pat McAfee:This Jets team under Aaron Glenn has no turnovers, so he's like defensive matchmatch. We got no turnovers here. We got dogs all across the board on the defensive side. and then obviously offensively I think it was very impressive what Justin Fields was able to do with that football off that guy's face yeah and I hate that Sky Camp we watched that a lot this morning we'll certainly buy into that a little bit what a throw but let's talk about the Detroit Lions with MCDC what were you guys that first year Foxy started out 0-10 0-10 and then they get a big time win okay so like instituting that particular culture obviously took a little bit of time I think there was even conversations about this guy's lost the locker room this guy's not going to be able to do and then obviously they find their stride and they go with the New York Jets the market, everything like that.
12:33Pat McAfee:Is it going to be possible for Aaron Glenn to have the patience or for people to hold on for them to develop the culture? What are you seeing from them? Yeah, it's a tough place to play. It's a tough place to not win in. They're the only team that hasn't won in the NFL this year. But I think there is some patience and some grace for him this year. They've seen this as a rebuild. I mean, if you go back to the first game, they took the Steelers down to the wire. Then we've got him doing this deal against the Bucs. I mean, how quickly we forget with under two minutes left, They were beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two weeks ago.
13:02So I think this team, they're going to challenge teams this year. Obviously, they're not going to go to the playoffs, but this is a huge culture-setting year for Aaron Glenn, and he's got to get it going.
13:11Pat McAfee:So Connor, actually, big believer. And I don't know if he's doing that to reverse jinx, but you actually are a believer even after what we saw yesterday. Yeah, four shoots a believer, especially when you look at the players from the Lions that got much, much better in his defense. I just don't understand what's going on with Sauce Gardner. That's my question to D-Butt. But Sauce Gardner, his rookie year, is all pro, all world, unbelievable. And it's just been like this weird kind of – I'm not going to say fall off because he's still a great player. But when – what is it, DJ Reader? DJ Reader. Yep, DJ Reader.
13:40He goes to Detroit in the offseason, and now, you know, Sauce Gardner doesn't have a counterpart on the other side that can cover a guy, you know, without question. And he's kind of getting abused in five straight games. The fact that they have no turnovers, like, dude, grab an interception. And I'm not saying it's easy. That's me simplifying it. That's why you're soft. As a fat idiot, yes. But I'm saying, like, hey, dude, like, somebody's got to make a play, right? You're the one that's getting paid$120 million. It's got to be you. Yeah, for sure. And that's never really been his game since coming into the NFL.
14:10He's just kind of been one of those lockdown corners, a bunch of backdowns. That's one of the things you look at and start to say, hey, I want some more ball production. But through five games, I mean, you would think something would accidentally happen. Yes. A ball, a line of scrimmage, a tip, a overthrow, something at this point. So it's just tough. Some of it's some self-inflicted negatives. as Chuck Pagano would call, the sins. A lot of penalties, a lot of sloppy football. Justin Fields has kind of looked good, which is weird. They got a lot of things to figure it out. I just hope they do have some patience to give Aaron Glenn that time because we know we are not in the environment where you're giving coaches a long leash at this point.
14:45Well, and the other thing, too, is we talked about how many offensive linemen went in the first round this year. Will Campbell, as a Patriots fan, I'll say he's doing the best. LSU, baby. Bingo, bingo. Come on. Yeah, but he's got short on. From Monroe, Louisiana, baby. From Monroe, Louisiana. We had a 318, baby.
14:59Pat McAfee:Is that where you're from as well? We are. So you guys have small arms there? What is the thing? There's no small arms here. But, no, we have different problems. Different problems. But he's a hell of a football player. And he's going to be – I called him to Taylor LeJuan of Vrabel in Tennessee. That was his tone setter. That's who Will Campbell is going to be for this team. Why'd they make such a big deal out of the arm length? Is that a thing? I think it is a thing in the sense of you need – I always call it your fallback. When you think of playing DB, you play offensive tackle, what is it that I'm going to have moments where I'm going to get out of control or I've got to be able to survive a down, what is it that I fall back on?
15:30Is it my arm length? Do I have my feet? Do I have great feet? Do I have really great anchor? What are those things? So one of those for an offensive lineman, you've got to think about pushing guys around the edge, is your ability to extend and get a guy around the depth of the quarterback. So length goes into that a bunch. And so that's really what that long arms comes from. And then you get long arm bull rushes, stuff like that. You need length. And so I think for Will, he has tremendous feet, a great anchor, and he's a powerful kid. He can make up for not having the longer arm.
15:54Pat McAfee:Got it. So it's like a long snapper in my world. you either got to be like perfect snapper and blocker or you got to be a really good cover guy there you go he's got to be one of the i need a trait what's my trait it's the aussie absolutely but his snaps i think he would even say like compared to other guys he's a tackler bingo he is a coverage guy he's a weapon going down the field for me okay i'm trying to get hang time i would like my snapper to be like hey just jugs machine breath basket every time give me a dry and you don't even need to cover but on that note that's literally how they're judged you're saying offensive linemen same exact thing back to your point though there's a lot of people that were like will's not the guy yeah not because of literally an inch i think that's what people were saying but i think most people with a brain like knew that wasn't a real thing and to your point like you know i appreciate it he's the tale of the one of this variable team when it comes to comparisons we don't really do like any titans players in new england because they've sucked forever he's more of like the wit of new england yeah okay um but he got real you ever seen fits in a Tennessee Titans jersey?
16:53We'll talk about it later. But no, just to wrap up, just to wrap the Jets real quick, Armin Membu. Like, it's not as if they drafted bad players. Like, Armin Membu has been arguably the best rookie, you know, offensive lineman. So I don't know what the hell's going on. Their defense shouldn't be this shitty, though. The other tough part about the Jets is they have to face Drake May twice a year. That's a good point. That's a good point. I agree with you, Fitz. And if we want to really go through it, I wanted to thank you because I personally believe the only reason Drake May is this good is because he spent a month or two with Josh Allen over the summer.
17:24And you can say like Vrabel and stuff, and I definitely want to talk about Vrabel. But I don't think it's that simple as McDaniels comes in and does well. I think it's kind of Josh Allen is the one who birthed this beast, if you will, in New England. And I think you're the one that kind of helped birth that beast. You're the granddaddy! That's just what I think. He's the grandfather. Exactly.
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17:48Pat McAfee:He's the father's father. Yeah, father's father. Yeah, May's fodder's Josh Allen and May's fodder's fodder's Rife is Magic. That's great news. Look what you're doing. He's a great player. Great player. Hey, we'll get to Drake May. Certainly we have to. But we're saying Jets and Bengals kind of complete ass. That's what we're saying? I think Jets less ass. Current ass. Than the Bengals. Really? Yes. I like everything that just happened right there. Let's go to number three, a team that is not ass at all. The last play, boys. These guys won their last two games literally on their last play. They have four wins on the season, five weeks, all of them comebacks.
18:24Pat McAfee:This team is always in it. Baker Mayfield's mentality has seemingly oozed and radiated through the entire locker room. Now, granted, they've already had a good, you know, pillar of Levante David getting a big-time pick. Shout-out to him because first week he dropped a pick that Vita Vea would have caught right behind him. Vita Vea has been burying him ever since then. We learned that on our show when Coach B.A. actually talked shit to Levante David as well for dropping a pick in week one. Instead, he makes a diving play. Unbelievable catch here. Out of nowhere, how you doing? Keep it moving. And it's not just Baker.
18:53Pat McAfee:Obviously, this defense gave up some points to Sam Darnold. Yes, this game was bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. But was there any of us that didn't think Baker was going to end up winning? If this was a shootout, Baker Mayfield is going to be the one that's going to come away. And they certainly did D-butt. I love this Buccaneers jib, if you will. For sure. It seemed like watching this game, it was whoever had the ball last was going to end up winning. and you create that big turn. That was probably the only bad play Sam Darnold had. Both of these guys were just spinning. But Baker's game, probably the best game I've seen from a quarterback in a long time.
19:25Like, he was, you could just tell he was just locked in. Emekie Buka, dominant, continuing his dominant year. Jackson Smith and Jigbo on the other side, both of those Ohio State boys showed off. But this game was phenomenal for me. Before it even started, honestly, with these jerseys, this might be the all-time best jersey matchup with both of these teams celebrating 50 years. But, yeah, Baker's been dialed in, especially in the biggest moments when his team's been needed the most. Yeah, and, you know, for me, luckily when I played in Tampa, we didn't do the all-whites like that. That would have been tough.
19:54That would have been tough. But Bucky Irving's out, right? Mike Evans is out. And I think the thing that's not being talked about enough, Joshua Grisard's the OC, first-time OC, first-time play caller in the NFL. What Baker's doing with this offense right now and helping Josh also has been fantastic.
20:09Pat McAfee:It's crazy because that was a story like two weeks ago, remember? two weeks or three weeks ago, it was like, he's got no tackles. This guy's got nobody. Brand new OC, and they're just winning. Now we've just gotten used to it. We're like, yeah, week five. This is what the Bucs do, dude. It's like it's still so early in the year. How much better can they get with it? They can still get a lot better. I mean, look at their starting center. Graham Barton's been playing tackle. Tristan Wirfs just got back a week ago. I mean, you look at it. They've been doing this without their group, and now they're starting to get healthier up front, and Tristan Wirfs and that crew is dominant.
20:36So I think they're only going to get more physical and better up front, and I think that means his team's going to be even better.
20:39Pat McAfee:Will the football gods continue to bless him? You win in games like this, football gods on your side. Is this Team of Destiny Field down there in Tampa Bay? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is this the Cleveland Browns kicked this guy out of town? He went and played on a scout team punt team in Carolina. They kicked him out of town. Look at how they are. He goes cross country, obviously, with Los Angeles Rams, puts on a show, becomes the guy in Tampa Bay after Tom Brady. Maybe we deserve to give this guy a little bit of love. Is that what's happening right now? The booted out of the Browns building, Team of Destiny, Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers?
21:10I think you could certainly make that case because everyone who wants to poke holes in the Bucs, they just say, well, this isn't sustainable. You can't do this over the course of a season. Four out of five weeks is a pretty good sample size. And I feel like any time after the year when we look at this kind of – like a team always – one year, they'll be 8-1 in one-score games. And then the next year, you know, water finds its level. Fight it a couple years ago. Exactly. So, like, as of right now, it's hard to argue. Like, that's just who they're going to be this year. They're going to perform very well in one-score games, and does that give them enough momentum to eventually go on a Super Bowl run?
21:42We'll see.
21:43Pat McAfee:Number two storyline, congratulations to 1972 Dolphins. Yeah. How'd I go, Gops? Yeah. How'd I go, Gops? Yeah. Gops. Gops. You did it, Gops. I'll tell you what, McDaniel. Oh, my gosh, that walk. How was that walk, Pat? That was awesome. Hold on. You got to kick that left shoe more. Yeah, the left shoe. He got his little off-white swaggy. That was my kids. Just flopping around as he's walking. So sad. It's part of comeback chaos, obviously. So sad. Carolina Panthers is not supposed to win this. So sad. Hey, is Xavier Lee yet? Maybe a guy. So sad. Look at his little tag on his left foot. Drag that thing home, man.
22:29Pat McAfee:That sucks. He knows. We all know. Yeah. Yeah. But, hey, fun, Ron. He did. Rico Dado goes for 200. 200? Yeah. Praise God. Hey, fun run. It was a good run. It was a good run. Everything down there was fun. And I think that's where he was. What do you mean it was a good run? You saw it. Glasses off, little thing kicking. He knew. Yeah, he knows. He knows. That little tag flapping around was the last straw. If Steven Ross sees that, he's going to say, get this guy the fuck out of here. He's done right now. How about I sent that video to you guys, and I just said, the little tag. Yeah. It's the saddest part of the whole thing.
23:04Pat McAfee:inside yes it's a barber bopping around and i didn't notice it until halfway through it's here too bob you know because the way he walks there's a lot of pizzazz for that tag to kind of just bop bop bop man like we said that we all said it in football if you're winning and all that happens it's cool and they love it it's cool if you don't win they don't get oh let's talk about you down in the miami dolphins that place whenever you were down there there was a lot of allegations about what was going on there do you think miami dolphins can win okay 1972 dolphins obviously go undefeated we are all adult humans who've been in locker rooms and in miami and to the city of miami definitely been in miami is there enough yeah that's what i'm saying that's exactly what i'm saying do you think they can win in miami do you think you can win in miami that's a lot going on that's a lot going on in miami and i was it was covid one of the years was covid year when i was there, so there wasn't a lot going on.
23:59But there are a lot of distractions down there, and it is an issue.
24:03Pat McAfee:I think so. Like, Gumpy needs to celebrate these 1972 Dolphins, because I think it's... I think even as the world continues to grow, it's only getting... because Miami's getting more and more popular to certain people, I think. Yeah. Larry Zonk ain't coming through that door. It just ain't happening. Negative. Duggo. They need him. Exactly. Celebrate that. And then the number one story in our first 15 that has now ran about 20 minutes or so, Coltsco and Super Bowl. Hell yeah! Come on now. Now this says the Colts are going to the Super Bowl, and I appreciate that, but that's a little humility from the graphic maker.
24:34Pat McAfee:The Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. Okay. That is the fun. After watching this team live with these eyes, boys. Okay, these eyes right here watching this team live. Last couple years we've had okay teams. Gardner Minshew almost took us to the playoffs, almost won the AFC South in our stadium, literally right in front of us against Houston Texans week 16 or whatever it was a couple years ago. We always believed Shane Steichen. We always believed that there was a lot of talent on the team. There's one position we just couldn't figure out. I'm surprised you didn't play for us, to be honest.
25:04Pat McAfee:I don't know how that didn't happen with the run that we were on. Danny Dimes with us is awesome. Jonathan Taylor, I think he only rushed for like 66 yards yesterday, three touchdowns. He's the best version of himself for sure in this offense. The offensive line, they're finally speaking the same language as quarterback. Remember, there are some stories. Fitz, I'd like to ask you about this as well. That's my dad that Pittman just tapped up in front of the suite. Tim obviously in there. Matt Ryan, whenever he got here, allegedly, him and the offensive line just couldn't, they weren't saying the same.
25:33Pat McAfee:They were speaking different. That's the whole thing. It's hard. That's why we had Matt Ryan come in because we thought he was like a super smart football guy. This is what we need because we've got enough talent everywhere. We just need a quarterback. And then for some reason, they couldn't speak the same language. Danny Don has come in here, mastered the offense, understands everything, puts him in the right position, and he's spinning it. I mean, it is when we need it, he's very rarely missing. I think I saw him miss one time yesterday. It was an overthrow out of bounds. Every other ball that comes out of his hand is, like, catchable.
26:03Pat McAfee:Tyler Warren might be the best football player, period. Just go ahead and put that right there. He's gigantic, he's tough, and he's always open. But our defense is legit as well. I had a chance to chit-chat with Colts owner, one of the big three, Carly Ursay. Nice. How's she doing? About her time on the sideline. Okay, journalism. Okay, she came in to see Chuck Corgi. It got into a big race, which we'll certainly cover here in a matter of moments. My dog, Chuck, was in a corgi race called Stumpy Stampede yesterday. But Carly Ursa came in to see Chuck. She immediately goes, whoa, he's big. And I go, easy.
26:38Pat McAfee:He's got a big race coming up. Yeah, we're just trying to get him to survive. It's shocking, though. We should lay that out. It is shocking when you see a dog that fat with such small legs. He was triple the size of every other competitor in the Stumpy Stampede. But Carly, I said, okay, I have to ask you. Me and Carly don't really, I have not really talked to Carly much. I was on the way out when she was kind of in. We're not the same age. Kaitlin and I, same age, so we kind of knew the same people, so I got a chance to chat with her. Carly, I've never really talked to her. I'm like, hey, what have we got out of this?
27:07Pat McAfee:Do you know the calls? Like, are you at the point where you know the calls? She's like, I kind of know what we're looking for. She's just charting, though. She's charting plays, basically. Charting plays, charting plays, charting plays, just to see what's going on, trying to learn as much as possible. She said some of the coaches have been a little bit against it because they think that she's like, they think I'm going to hold it against them or like interject or something like that. She's like, I'm just literally just charting plays there. And I was like, tell me about the defense. She goes, lose defense versus the last defense we had.
27:34Pat McAfee:So many more words, options, choices, so many more things for our guys to do. It's like, there's a call and then there's like two adjustments on top of it. She's like, that's the biggest takeaway for me is like lose defense versus the other defense. It's like, there's a lot of options. And then you give these guys more options, they utilize them. And so she's like been excited to kind of watch it kind of grow and then she told me exact words were we think with the way gino throws and where it's coming out from we should be able to get a couple today is what carly says wow she knows she's dialed oh yeah so i said that to the entire suite i was like carly leaves and i was like carly urs they just said the way gino's throwing it right now we think that we got the guys that are going to be able to get some hands on some balls and then we got some picks because we didn't get any last week or whatever.
28:20Pat McAfee:She was like, so we need turnovers. We need turnovers. So that first one happens. It's a deflection pick. I'm like, I look over at Wobbly. It's coldest thing. So it's like everybody is all in, literally from the top all the way down to everybody is all in for the Colts right now. And we've always had the players. We've always had the building. And now it feels like we finally got the quarterback. Fitz, you're a journeyman. Kind of your thing. We're seeing this resurgence of guys that kind of have to bounce around a little bit. Danny Dimes is doing it to an entire city right now for us. He's doing it for an entire city right now as we're kind of going.
28:53Pat McAfee:Why does that happen? Is it the experiences, teacher stuff? Is it just getting to the right system? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, fit and timing are so big in this. And I think even with Mac Jones right now in San Francisco, we had him the other night, it's the same thing. So this is very sustainable for Daniel Jones as well. Steichen's a great play caller. He showed it in Philly. That's why he got the head job here. And he has the weapons on the outside. The thing that I love about him, He's got Pierce, who didn't play yesterday. He's got Pittman. He's got Tyler Warren, all these big dudes.
29:20And you see every ball that comes out of his hand, it's drilling guys in the face mask, which is huge. The thing I want to go back to, though, have you ever been on a headset? No. It's nasty. I mean, these coaches, I've done it once, and I said, I can't do that again. The shit that they're spewing about the players, I don't know what she's hearing, but I guess they've been winning, so it's all been good, but it can get really negative on that headset. I used to have a coach who would say all the time, and says, listen, guys, whatever you guys are saying down here about us, we're talking the same shit about you guys.
29:50It's coming up, it's coming down. Don't worry about it. But I think, too, your points about going to the Super Bowl, who's the defensive coordinator? Lou Anarumo. Who beat the Chiefs to go to the Super Bowl? The Cincinnati Bengals is the defensive coordinator. Lou Anarumo. Tell me about Lou.
30:01Pat McAfee:So everything I was just saying there about Carly was saying, you were nodding your head yes. Obviously, you had a lot of time. You know Lou pretty good, I assume. Yeah, we've gotten to spend some time with him on Thursday nights before games, just being around him, his energy, his passion for the game. And I think just really he's one of these guys that he kind of has chess piece guys that he's like, I need this player to be able to do these things for these specific calls that I want. You look at some of these simulated late pressures he brings. He has a guy type in mind that he needs, and when he puts that together, you look at the investment they did in the secondary.
30:27Now he knows, like, these are the calls that I can call in these kind of situations when I want to play chess with people, and I think you look at it, he has. He's been in that playoff run with the Bengals. He's got that experience, so that's the guy you want calling plays when it's playoff time, baby.
30:38Pat McAfee:Kenny Moore's coming back. I mean, we're not even at full speed on the defense. We got a real defense. Oh, yeah. We got, like, a real defense Grover Stewart and Buckner down there can fight anybody. Layatulatu gets another pick. They got him dropping out. He's finally finding his. There was a guy. First time hero of this guy. Got to the quarterback. Cross is blitzing and getting to the quarterback seemingly every other play. Defense feels like it's potentially championship run. And then the offense is matching it. It's a crazy time right now for the Colts. Complimentary football. Only thing I worry about is us losing our kicker.
31:08We lost Spence. We lost Spank. Is it for the year? Is he out for the year? That being confirmed? I don't want to be the one.
31:17Pat McAfee:Okay, well, we'll see. I'll see it because it's going to get out anyways. I think it was multiple ligaments were torn. I think. That's up. Yeah, from my understanding, just because I apologize. Left middle of fourth quarter. That game is over. To beat traffic. You're good. Okay, on way out, I get asked if I'll go say what's up to him. Obviously, in the middle of a moment, he's Indiana kid from Indiana. And so, like, I think he maybe knew of me or my existence. Went in there and talked to him. Spirit seems like he is obviously on the right track. But obviously he's going through a lot of shock there too.
31:50Pat McAfee:This kid has been great for us. He's already hit a game winner. He's got a massive leg. The one where he got hit, I mean, he is, especially after the years past, we've had a couple misses and some big moments. He local kid has done it. He's 24. So we think he'll be. He'll bounce back for sure. But that's going to suck. And I told him, like, I didn't want to be the bearer of bad news. I'm like, yo, what you're about to go through is about to suck. Like, you need to know that. But on the other side, you're going to be mentally tougher and even better and you're younger, and you've got a special talent.
32:12Pat McAfee:He's a really good kicker. We've been lucky to have him here, and he loves the Colts. So it's like we like those people around the building. And a ton of faith in the training staff. Like Rego just tore his Achilles, you know, and he's back punting football better than Dayton or anyone. When he does, he knows the next three. Yeah, we do like the training staff around here. Yeah, it's great. Like Frog, like, you know, it's good. So that would be the only thing that I'd be worried about because this has kind of been the year of the kicker, whether it's been hitting bombs or kicks getting blocked.
32:37it's been a storyline so I think it will continue to be a storyline but the other things the defensive pieces I feel like with Lou they'll only continue to get better and more dynamic you see a lot of free hitters Blackman stepped in he got a big pick yesterday so I love what Lou and then what Danny Dimes has been doing this offense like it's one thing to kind of get early in the year you can catch defense off guard maybe some gimmick shit but they're doing like real like this is a high level high operating offense you don't know where 84 Warren's going to be he could He can be a fullback. He can be split out wide.
33:08He can be in the corner formation. He's a weapon. Kind of like Gronk, always open, regardless of a guy who's on him or not. He's so big. Pittman, you talked about his big body. The mismatch that Josh Downs can give you in the slot. And then Jonathan Taylor playing at an MVP level right now. So we got all the pieces from top down right now. We can go on a real, real run, especially with a division that, you know, looks like we should be in the driver's seat the whole way.
33:31Pat McAfee:AFC South is a real juggernaut. Don't you ever get twisted. They got a big win yesterday. Two things we didn't hit there in the top five, you think? Two quick things? Two quick things. Let's go Dak. Dak had a big, big day. Went down a bunch of old linemen, down his top receiver, CeeDee Lamb. Terpen was actually out as well, but he had a huge kind of MVP caliber day. He's been another quarterback coming off a year where he was hurt. He's playing top, top-notch football. You didn't know what to really expect coming into this game with all those pieces being down, but he raised his level. Shout out to Shadi, calling the plays, putting him in good situations.
34:03And then a great, great kind of feel-good story. David Montgomery, Monty going back home, having a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in front of his sister, Kiki, who got in a terrible car accident. So she actually had been paralyzed a little bit over a year ago. So this was the first game she got to watch him play live since that terrible accident. So it was awesome. We talked about, obviously, his game. And it's the 14th game where he and Gibbs have scored a touchdown in the same game, which is the NFL record, which is insane.
34:32Pat McAfee:You remember whenever Foxy was saying they weren't calling him Sonic and Knuckles anymore? What was it? What were they calling him? They were calling him ass and cheeks, and I didn't like it one bit. The internet is a cruel place, all right? That's messed up, dude. I didn't like that at all. That seems like a long time ago now, though. A long time ago. That was a bad week one for the Detroit Lions. As bad as it gets. I'll tell you what, we are in a much different place now than we were in week one for the Detroit Lions. I'll see you in the Super Bowl, Pat. Colts, Lions. I don't know if MC Decent wants that right now.
35:00Pat McAfee:Okay, I don't know if you want that right now. He'll fight all your guys. Yeah, but what's he going to do to Carly? Exactly. We win. Yeah, but unfortunately then, Ben-a-na-na-na-na-na, Sheila Ford-Hamp walks out. Yes, you're right. She doesn't want that glass to break, brother, because then Kaylin and Casey are going. Yeah, so. Three on one. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might pick up where we left off. If there was any crumbs to a story that maybe we didn't dabble upon, he will certainly keep us in line and also maybe tell us some shit that we refuse to cover because of our ignorance.
35:30Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, a Michigan man, Adam Schefter. Yay! Wow! Shirt and tie! Whoa! Professional. That looks good. I was dressing up for Fitzy and Big Witt. Oh, thanks, Schefter. Appreciate it. All right, Schefter. Hey, Schefter, they're on a road trip across the country in the back of a very nice bus. I believe this morning was the first time Fitch chose to shower on it, if I'm reading the T.R. Oh, no, I can. You said it was going to be nice in there, though. It was really nice. Hot water, good water pressure. See, it's not bad. Not bad. I love the bus life. He doesn't travel with shampoo and conditioner, so I didn't get to shampoo and conditioner.
36:11We got some for you here.
36:12Pat McAfee:We'll certainly give it to you. Now, to be clear, we didn't buy it. People have sent us that in the past. We do not know if it's going to work or not, but we assume that it's okay. Probably some starter company. Yeah. Call it like Mophead or something. Right. It'll work. Harvard, you get it. Some kid created this in his garage. Good to see you guys. Schefter, what did we miss in there? I know you were sitting around listening to a lot of what we were chatting about. The Colts are going to the Super Bowl. The 1972 Dolphins undefeated streak continues. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers outrageous in what they're doing.
36:40Pat McAfee:Jets and Bengals, not complete ass is what the Jets and Bengals. Half ass. Half ass. Half ass is what they say. And then comeback chaos yesterday. If you want to hit any of those or anything we left out, we'd love to hear it, Chef D. Well, I don't know how much hit on the Denver Broncos. a team that going into yesterday had a record of 1-112 going into the fourth quarter when they were down by 14 or more points. And yesterday pulled out their second win in 114 games when they were in that spot. Now, I covered John Elway for a lot of years. There weren't many more players that were clutch than John Elway.
37:13And even he didn't do that when they were down 14 on the road in the fourth quarter. And yet, Sean Payton has now done this twice the last few years. He did it yesterday in Philadelphia in the Eagle Stadium on the road against the defending champs. It's pretty impressive. And on that two-point conversion at the end, they didn't even hesitate. They got right into that two-point conversion. And there aren't a lot of head coaches across the league who would call for two points on this particular play right here, down 17-16 and go for the lead halfway through the fourth quarter. That was pretty bold to Sean Payton.
37:46But that's how confident he was that they would make it. and the Broncos pulled through and they left after the game to go to London. They play the Jets there on Sunday, so a big matchup for them.
37:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Broncos coming into the season were obviously a lot of people's Super Bowl darlings. They played an incredible Indianapolis Colts team, you know, and I think a lot of people maybe weren't giving the Colts a lot of credit at the time, so I think maybe the Broncos were maybe judged in a certain way that they might not be judged the same exact way today if it was to happen, but they get a huge win, and obviously that's the 1972 Dolphins get a chance to celebrate it, especially after the Bills lose last night. Any storylines out of New England in the Buffalo Bills last night? Obviously, Stephon Diggs said it was very personal.
38:25Pat McAfee:He goes off for the second straight game over 100 yards. First time wide receiver's done that since 2019 Julian Edelman, I think, is what the stat was or whatever. So he's going crazy. Vrabel in the Patriots. Everything's clicking. All systems go out of there, it appears. That was a big statement that they made there going to Buffalo. If you could win in Buffalo on a Sunday night, then where can't this team win? And again, the Patriots still have to go for stadiums. They'll get better. But Drake May looked the part. He made a couple of plays that not a lot of quarterbacks can make. Ray Bull has helped turn around the culture.
39:02There's still things that they have to do and will do better. But that was a big-time statement. Like Drake May on the national stage, they hadn't played in prime time, hadn't been in that spot. and it got down late in the game and Drake May was making plays to Stephon Diggs, like you mentioned, over 100 for the second straight game, got a game ball after the game, big victory for the Patriots, and that was a statement that they're in the hunt for a playoff spot. That throw right there, he's got a guy draped on him, he's got another guy coming at him, straight ahead, and he still manages to not only get rid of the ball, but get rid of the ball on target for a 12-year-old game.
39:39That was an incredible play by Drake May.
39:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, it certainly was, and Amazon's coming everywhere. We know that. We heard that last night. All over the place. Yeah, all over the place. Wade has a question for you, Shefty. Shefty, I'm concerned. My Rams lost in overtime last Thursday, so I'm a little worried about next week. Talk to me. Lamar Jackson, is he playing next Sunday against the Rams? Yeah. Well, you know, the great part about that for the Rams, and you'll know this better than anyone, Big Witt, there's no way they're going to play a game like that two games in a row. And Baltimore seems to be missing half its roster. Now, with the way it sets up, the Ravens have a bye week after that.
40:12So if they wrestle Lamar next week, if he's not ready, they get him two weeks to get ready. And I almost feel like that team has to view themselves making a push after their bye because they're missing so many key players on both sides of the football right now. My guess is they won't get Lamar on Sunday, but obviously the team will see how he's doing this week. Lamar wanted to try to play last week. He's going to want to try to play this week. If he can play, he'll certainly be out there. But he couldn't walk out of the locker room. He was limping around last week. He didn't practice at all this past week.
40:42Ruled out on Friday. And they have the bye on the week after. So my guess, and it's a guess right now early on the week, is that he won't wind up playing. But we'll see how the week unfolds. Shepty, do you have any experience with hamstring injuries just in your athletic career? Oh, fish. I've had a lot of injuries. You're an Achilles. I know that, right? I've had a lot of things.
41:07Pat McAfee:I've never pulled my hamstring. You've never pulled your hamstring? Not fast enough, no. It takes a real explosion to be able to do that. What's the worst injury you had? We've seen you bleed, obviously. Broken tibia was probably the worst. That's the tough, that's the knock. Worst the Colts, actually. It was probably you kicking onside kicks in that game. It probably led to my broken tibia. Okay, where's this at? Here or in Nashville? Here. When I hit the one to the right? Sure. I think you hit two in the game. No? You got it right. Oh, shit. You're right. Happy to see you're okay. Happy to see you're okay.
41:42Pat McAfee:Let's talk about some people who might not be okay. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, this kind of got put on the back burner after they had the big win on Thursday night. But Mike McDaniel yesterday, just not good, blowing a 17-point lead and then walking through the tunnel looking like a fifth grader who just got his ass beat and his lunch money stolen. Is this going to happen? I mean, are we going to draw this out and we don't really have anything to worry about? Or is Mike McDaniel going to be getting axed here fairly soon? Look, I think everybody's smart enough to figure out who's in trouble and who's not.
42:13And when things actually happen are entirely up to ownership of these teams. But none of these teams are in any rush right now to make that move. Like, as much as people are going to talk about it, there's still a lot of time to go in the season. What do you want them to do? Who's going to take over if somebody gets fired in a particular city? These are all the decisions you have to make. But the Dolphins, obviously, have had a disappointing season so far. Everybody knows that you have to win to avoid facing some of these questions. But I don't get the sense that it's anytime soon. Could that change?
42:48Of course. Of course. They lost to Carolina yesterday. But the ownership has wanted to be patient with them. That I can tell you.
42:56Pat McAfee:Good luck, McDaniel. We're pulling for you. Good luck, McDaniel. Good morning. Good morning for you, man. That was a sad image, him with glasses off, just the whole thing. Because he feels like when people are around him, they enjoy their time. I think he is a good vibes human. This is like Sala at the Jets, and then we see him at the Niner going absolutely crazy. It's like he lost his joy when he was with the Jets, clearly. And now it's like McDaniel, this guy, he's lost everything but shoes. Still got the shoes. Still got the joggers. Still got the cool looks. Looks good. Still has got the glasses that change when you're outside.
43:29Pat McAfee:What are those? Yeah, transition lenses. Transition lenses, which I think more people should do. I think they do look pretty cool, especially with the styles that they have these days. But, boy, they've got to win because there's people like Gumpy in the back that are going, how long are we waiting here, pal? We're year five now, Gumpy. Is that what you're thinking back there as a Dolphins fan? Whenever they get a lead, he doesn't know how to call the game. It's insane. They went up 17-0. They were cooking. Waller's got five for 78 with a tud. Don't target him the entire second half. Are you shitting me?
44:00They got the beam on him. He did. He's the best player we are.
44:04Pat McAfee:He's wide open every time. You're saying he's not the one. He is the one. We won't give him the ball. It's because they got the whole fucking beam on him. Mike dialed up some stuff. Tule got to make the throws, too. He got to make the throws and shit. Tule or Mike and give up 250 yards. They got dialed. 250 yards from the damn ground. They did get dialed. They did get dialed. I was read through, but moving on. They got the Rico Act going on. That's awesome. We got a big court. So the boys in here, got to give them credit. They had the Joe DiNardo. They saw it well before we did, Shefty, because me and you kind of dismissed this.
44:39Might be a quarterback conversation in San Francisco now. But before we get into it, how's Brock's health right now? How healthy is he? When will he be back in the lineup? And Mac Jones, is there going to be a conversation? I know Mac Jones said all the right thing, but is there going to be a conversation with how well he's been playing? personally, he's been unbelievable. And I think people were surprised at how well he's played, but the environment has elevated his performance. And there aren't a lot of people who would have thought on Thursday Night Football in front of Big Witt and Fitzy there that Mac Jones would have led that team to the victory that he did.
45:13But they've rebuilt him. They've reprogrammed him. And he's playing the way that they thought he would when he left Alabama. And they considered taking him. They initially traded up with the idea that they were going to pick him and fell in love with Trey Lance along the process. Now Mac is back there playing exceptionally well. No, I still think it is absolutely Brock Burdett's job. I don't even think it's a question. Mac Jones did say the right things because I think that's the real situation right now where he's going to be in a situation where he's called upon when Brock's not playing and he'll step in and play the way he did.
45:46It was fantastic. And he's got a two-year contract. So he's going to be there for a couple of years unless all of a sudden he's got value. But Brock Purdy, they just paid, and he's going to be the guy. Pat, also, I have to give you props. Thank you. Spencer Schrader, you're correct. Both. Not that you need. You beat him. He's been unbelievable this year. Great kicker. My fancy kicker. Out for the year with a knee injury.
46:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, that is. I heard it's real. I mean, the thing he had. It looked terrible. When I saw him, and also everybody kneeling around him, that was very scary. but the brace he had on when I went to see him was groin to ankle triple. You know what I'm saying? Damn. And I will say his mindset, good in the moment. Total shock. Obviously everything happening. He's been great for us. Going to have to have a good kicker if you want to go on a run. Hopefully we'll find somebody. And then when you're back, bud, we can't wait to welcome you back. We can't wait to welcome you back. Okay, last question. It's about tonight.
46:47Pat McAfee:Obviously, Monday Night Football, and I believe there's a Manning must-watch ride-along. Ah, who cares? No! You won't be there. These are good. The Manning cast are good. We get good clips out of these things. Let's make sure. Exactly, yeah. Okay, there's good clips coming out of ESPN, too. See you on X. Not going on my TV. Shefty, if you need a kicker, go ahead and grab Borgallis. He had a kick yesterday that would have been good from 80, But looking at tonight, that was a booming kick, right? That was huge. Yeah, I love them. Yeah, great. Looking at tonight, though, what do you think about this game setting up?
47:26The Jags defense has been figuring it out, and now the Casey offense has been figuring it out. Is this going to be kind of like a gritty, you know, running gun type game? Are the Jags going to force him to run the football? Are the Chiefs going to force Trevor to throw the ball? Because Kyn has a new alarm, but ETN is running well. Hopefully we get a heavy dose of Travis Hunter. What are your expectations and who's missing on both sides tonight? Are there any big injuries that we should know? Well, the Chiefs added Xavier Worthy to their injury report when they landed after flying to Jacksonville because his ankle swelled up on the plane.
48:04And they just put him on there, I think, as a precaution just to make sure because you never know. But the sense is that he should be ready for tonight unless that ankle continues is to go the opposite way, which we'll hear that soon enough. But I would expect that he does wind up playing tonight. And I also think weather might figure it there. Like, you're in Florida this time of the year, storms, thunderstorms, rain showers. Some of that's in the forecast. Don't know if it'll hit at various points during the game, but that always can be a factor. There were some calls for some lightning. Hopefully that stays away and does not impact tonight.
48:37But, yeah, this is a game where I think we've seen some teams make some serious statements this weekend. Some upstart teams make some statements. And you just wonder if Jacksonville, which has been playing great football, hasn't played a big game in primetime like this with a winning record in this kind of spot. Feels like New England last night. Feels like Denver. Feels like some of these teams, they get a chance to make a statement by playing with a team that's one of the top franchises in sports.
49:05Pat McAfee:Thanks for not putting the Colts entire in there. I was about to really have a moment there. Winning a second in NFL history. You get back in time. On that note, Shad Khan tonight. Let's expect the best. Need one. This is Monday night football for the Jags? Need it. Yes. And also, this thing will be – Yeah, the wax. It'll be – Strength. Clean. Strength for strength tonight. Chiefs only have one turnover. I think they've only given the ball away once. Jaguars lead the league right now in turnovers, 13. So, see how that goes tonight. Ball skirt is job skirt. Absolutely. The ball is the program. That's the program.
49:37Pat McAfee:We should see how it is. We appreciate you joining the program. You're the man. Will we see you tonight? A lot of this. It looks like you're ready to go. I'm just saying I wanted to get ready for game time. You know, I'm never too early to get ready for kickoff. Monday night countdown. We're all ready. You know what they say. The true suit's sleeping them. So maybe you should start doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yay! Appreciate you, Schefter. You know, as the hour wraps up, I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about my day yesterday. Yeah, sure. Ladies and gentlemen, I was part of something very special.
50:04Pat McAfee:So we're not only, you know, by myself and getting just to experience it alongside my wife. And he's considered my dog as well, but certainly my wife's dog. We are invited to be a part of the Stumpy Stampede. Sure. Which is a corgi race that happens during TV timeouts. And I was pretty against it. I didn't know if my guy would be able to survive it just in general, running that far. And it turns out we didn't even need to find out. It was a great day yesterday. Me, my beautiful wife Samantha and our dog Chuck was by far the fattest corgi in the entire race. There was two heats. Oh my gosh. And our dog Chuck was barely able to survive just getting to the spot.
50:45Pat McAfee:We had to go two yards ahead of everybody else because I couldn't get him back onto the spot. I was trying to point out his mom. Go get your mom, the one that you like. And he asked, are you, are you, where, are you, who's, who's come, are you come? I'm not going. And he turns around. He says, I'm not doing this bullshit. I'm not your puppet out here amongst all these other corgis. I'm heading back this way. And I said, Chuck, this is a moment I've been dreaming of with one of my boys.
51:18Pat McAfee:I remember this moment in real time. A father taking care of his son and making sure he finished the race. Chuck had to battle through adversity, including his own weight. and a lot of different problems, I assume, going on with his joints. His mom met us in the finish line, and the cameraman tried to kill him. But Chuck finished, and Chuck did his race. And Kalen Ursay, one of the owners of the Indianapolis Colts, was there to greet him. And people clapped for the fatso. Said we didn't think a dog could finish that type of race. So we appreciate that moment. Well done, Chuck. Good job, Chuck.
51:57Pat McAfee:Thank you for the invite, Stumpy Stampede. They do that race. 16 teams use that particular setup for their Corgi races during TV timeouts. It was an honor to be a part of. All the other dogs had done a walkthrough or a smaller race to get to said race. Chuck was the only one out there without a collar on. And also a Halloween costume. None of the Halloween costumes would fit. We actually had to surgically remove one of the outfits from Chuck because he was just too big. Corgi race, though, good pop in the stadium. Good pop. Which immediately led to Fitz and Witten, the boys, are coming by. What are some of the best TV timeout in stadium shows that takes place?
52:41Pat McAfee:And we came up with pretty good. Corgi race was good. I think this is very new. I think it's very new. The field goal or throwing challenge. You guys brought that up. I don't think I've seen the throwing challenge, but I have seen it. Like the Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper circle. You try to throw it in there. You're talking about that one. Okay, the Colts have one, too, where they're throwing in trash cans. You remember that? There was like a trash can throw. It was a little. The helmet shuffle, I think, in football stadiums, okay, nobody will ever compare to Red Panda. But the helmet shuffle in stadiums, always captivating, always a little bit of a degree of difficulty so people feel like they're super geniuses.
53:17Pat McAfee:And I would like to humble brag throughout my playing career, punter not paying attention to much, and also fan thing, I've never got this wrong. Never? Never. Not once. I lock in, bro. Yeah. I'm captivated by it. They got a new one where it shakes, and they even have it leave the fucking, and then they come back on. I'm like, you're not going to get me. And now the reason why I think it's a good one, no matter what stadium you're in, loud two from everybody whenever it happens. I agree. You guys played actual positions. Did you watch? No. Were you able to do the helmet shuffle, or were you guys working?
53:49Pat McAfee:No helmet shuffle. You never watched the helmet shuffle? I always watched the helmet shuffle. You've got paid attention to the helmet shuffle. I love the Hellmichuffle. The Kiss Camp, too. I always loved the Kiss Camp. Except for concerts. Concerts, it doesn't go as well. What's that? Kiss Camp, not as good at concerts. No. Well. Depends where you are. And who's where, you know, because there's other potential significant others that stay with other people, too. Same one. Coldplay really brings everybody together. The mascot football slash races, peewee football, always good. The military hometown hero coming back.
54:24Pat McAfee:That one gets you. Stand up off the bench, clap. Got a chance to be a part of one. It was insane. Wish for our heroes here in Indianapolis. We were able to set this up. Because when I'm warming up on the field is during all these TV timeouts. And I'm trying to do this entire thing. I'm crying my eyes out in the middle of all these fucking games. The military reaction, surprise, I'm home six months. I think this guy was six months early. So they weren't even. It wasn't even a thought. I think they thought maybe getting a car when a car comes out. because I think they had some breakdown. But for dad to come back home like six months early, always waterworks every stadium that it happens.
55:00Always. Anytime you see it, especially when it has music. I've seen games is huge, but like kid in the classroom, like all the different type of day. It always hits.
55:08Pat McAfee:T-shirt toss, Cannon. We got to do the hot dog. We got to shoot hot dogs. We got to shoot hot dog winners at the fans. We have the video of that. I think it's like 30 seconds in. He had Cannon like this. That's the dream. And then shot that thing out there. That's been a part of this bus ride? The guy told us, he said, let me crank up the PSI. You can shoot it over the stadium. I said, no, you can't. He's doing the tape around it. He put extra tape all over it. PSI up. That thing went out of Memorial Stadium. Over the top. Over the top. What? Insane. Boom. Do we have camera on it? That's what we're celebrating.
55:41RPG? That's the reaction. They probably do. I don't know if we have a camera of it.
55:44Pat McAfee:We need camera on it. That's a good-looking dog camera. That is believable. That's a good dog gun there. Trivia on the big screen, always good, depending upon if the crowd is drunk or not. And then the hot dog cannon there to wrap it up. The in-stadium entertainment can be good. There's some shite ones. Oh, yeah. There's some really bad ones. You can't depend on people talking. No. Like, if people are just at the game. Have you seen the hardwood classics? Uh-uh. Golden State Warriors, dance team, 55 and up. They're incredible. Really? I think there's a 79-year-old on the squad. They're incredible.
56:17Wow.
56:17Pat McAfee:You're saying, like, love. Because if we go in the NBA world, quick change, I think, rest in peace. quick change. He used to change addresses because they obviously have it. We saw a BMX one. That was kind of okay. That was bad. That was bad. Oh, it was at the NBA finals. A lot of the NBA was just off. Hey, before we wrap up, Red Panda's the GOAT, as are you. Thank you guys for joining us. You've been holding something there. Oh, I got a little something for you, Pat. Okay. If you watched the Bills game last night, Josh Allen sails the ball out over in the stands. Guy catches it rocking the Milano jersey, tucks it, and just takes off out of the stadium.
56:47I think Tariqo did a great job describing it. Well, that was Fitz and I. On our journey, Our boys, Pat and Trav, went to the restaurant and we thought, you know what? What could we get Pat and the boys to just, you know, come and eat our trip? So we stole one of their dishes. We stuffed it in the hoodie and we took it with us, Pat. You're welcome, Mike.
57:06Pat McAfee:Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, Fitz and Whit, obviously, is going to have a nice applause.
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58:19Pat McAfee:This podcast is awesome. We're incredibly lucky that two football guys, Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who are on a bus journey from last week's Thursday night football game on Amazon Prime on Thursday night to this upcoming week's Thursday night football game on Prime in New York from L.A. to MetLife. and they stopped by and they brought a plate from 1587 Prime Steakhouse, which is Patrick and Travis Kelsey's here. Now, maybe in the next album, there's actually going to be a reference to one of these plates. Ooh. Like there was a reference to one of the owners here's one of his trees.
58:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's Brontworth. Yeah, he's Redwood. I think that's because he's a member of Chiefs. Oh, sure. Canceled continues to be a banger, by the way. a couple other songs. But we appreciate Witt and Fitz for stopping by. And what a great first hour. The Talks to Table is here at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone joins us. Tone, what is the gombling story coming out of week five that we weren't able to maybe talk about in the first hour? Okay, some good news, kind of. For the first time, we've been talking about, you know, how the top five against the spread teams for the public have gone.
59:30It's been one and four or zero and five basically every week. There are three and two this week.
59:33Pat McAfee:Let's go! We're getting smarter than these sportsbooks. We need this. So I went through and I looked and I was like, oh, I wonder if that continued down the line. I looked at every single team that was over 50 % of the public bets. They went six and seven, so a little bit under, but that's okay. So, you know, we're still down, but making progress. Yeah, we're close. Well, nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Atta, baby, D-Butch. D-Butch, good to see you. I don't know how your picks went because you're not with us on Friday. I know there's some times where you make the picks in the YouTube chat.
1:00:08Pat McAfee:Shout out to the chat. Shout out to the chat. Shout out to the chat. Shout out to the chat. You said you got discouraged? Got discouraged. Did it the first week. Ah, fuck this. Yeah. Once people start tracking what you're doing. Yeah, it gets loud. Yeah. Got somebody doing it for our college game day picks and for this. I thought I maybe got out of the picks game, but it feels like we're right back in it with people keeping track. The man joining me right now had a pretty good weekend of predicting ball. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion. He's a Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner.
1:00:35Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawke. Yeah, Hawke. Hawke, I hope you had an incredible weekend. Don't know if you know this or not, which you certainly don't. You want 10-3, brother. Wow. Okay, that Cardinals one, the only pick I remember was the Cardinals one. I knew that whole debacle just screwed me on that pick. So, I guess chalk it up to just a bizarre situation. I picked the Jets, brother. So, I mean, you can certainly talk about a lot of bizarre situations. that was an absolute blowout and they have been crumbled. 10-3 is certainly nothing to sneeze at, AJ. And maybe it's because it was such an interesting slate with so many weird ones.
1:01:10Pat McAfee:We all just went with whoever we feel better about at the time. And those seemingly covered for us, so we're thankful for that. Tonight, we have a great Chiefs-Jaguars battle. Chiefs favored by 3.5 on the road. Is this because they don't have any respect for Jacksonville because it's the Jacksonville Jaguars? Or why do you think this number is 3.5, AP Tone? Um, I just, no, I just think they think the Chiefs is the better team. The Chiefs is the Chiefs. The Jags have had a great start to this year, but the Chiefs have looked really good as of late, and they're the more proven team. Also, they know that the public is going to hammer the Chiefs, so that's also built into this as well.
1:01:45Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's talk about this game, AJ. What's your initial lean, initial reaction? Feels like if the Chiefs is still the Chiefs, we saw that just last week, where they won absolute ham. Will tonight be their first primetime explosion performance in some time in the regular season? well it sure would not hurt for the chiefs to to show us that they they are the chiefs that we know you know they have been over the last few years but jacksonville for them i think this is a giant opportunity your your dog's at home so you can already have that chip on your shoulder and you find a way to win this game in jacksonville and win like in an impressive fashion like this i think it can springboard you into the future and we'll see more and more uh you know probably locker room speeches from the owner so it'll be great for everyone yeah forever we're We're all hoping for it because they were having these conversations.
1:02:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, back in January. It happened in September. Now we need it to happen in October. When it does, it's going to last forever. We need that. Yeah. Like I need air to breathe. If anything, we need Stoner and Liam Cohen to get it figured out down there strictly so we can see more Shad Khan. Talking about a guy who has wanted his team to be successful for a long time. has spent a lot of money and, you know, I think investments in trying to make it. Was willing to rebuild an entire city for this team to be good. Urban Meyer, you're going to save the whole place, right? What do you need? You need Jacksonville town?
1:03:04Pat McAfee:You need Jaguars place? I'll build that, no problem. They put out graphics, 3D graphics of what it was going to look like down there. Say hello to the next iteration of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You guys haven't won in forever except for against the Colts whenever they come down there for some reason. You guys only win one game a year and it's against the Colts at home and it's a heartbreaker for everybody. every time it happens, but against everybody else, you guys stink. Your own fans dress up like clowns. And ShotKon's like, yeah, but if I spend enough, if I spend enough, it'll be good. And honestly, I appreciate an owner that's like that, and now it seems like there's a chance for them to be actually good.
1:03:37Pat McAfee:Now, it's very early in the year. Liam Cohen, obviously very new to being a head coach. Stoner, very new to running a team. But it's like, if the Jags are for real, that would be a surprise. And tonight could certainly be a night to say hello to the world, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I think for them to take that next step, they need to prove to people that they are, that they're not the Jags that we think they are, and they're not going to be able to win these big games. But to Shad Khan, I do respect the fact that he's trying to win. We know there's definitely owners around the league that are just trying to make money and trying to continue to make money and stay positive and all that.
1:04:09Shad Khan feels like, all right, money's cool. I got money. I need to find a way to win. I want to brag about my team. Maybe we're seeing that this year. Maybe this is the beginning of something great for Jacksonville.
1:04:19Pat McAfee:D, but Xavier Worthy gets hurt on a plane. What happened there? They said he got off the plane, had a swollen ankle. Obviously, everybody was excited for him to return. Another great piece for that offense. What does that normally mean? Had an injury going on to the flight, flight and the pressure and altitude just kind of cooked it a little bit. What do you think? Hopefully it's just them covering their bases just in case they do have to rule him out late in the game. You can't come back and say, oh, well, he wasn't an injury report. This wasn't there. So they're reporting it. And hopefully we get them there because this team, I feel like just preparing for them and playing against, they're completely different when number one is on the field.
1:04:51You saw that last week. And they all of a sudden get explosive. They get speed with Thornton, with him, with the other guys out there running around. And once again, like I said earlier, the Chiefs don't turn the ball over. So when you don't beat yourself, that's a big deal. And on the flip side, the Jacksonville defense is kind of middle of the pack, except when it gets to turnovers. They do create turnovers being at the top of the league. A lot of speed out there on both sides of the field. Travis Etienne, he's having an unbelievable year. Brian Thomas Jr., if he can get going, he's a big speed guy.
1:05:19And then is this the first time we see Travis Hunter on primetime? So I'll be interested in how he is deployed on both sides of the team. My bad, my bad. Sorry about that. But, like, at what point are they going to just finally say, like, hey, we're done with this shit, go play wide receiver. You and Brian Thomas and Etienne right now would be absurd together. Like, is this kind of where they start now that September's over, you know, Are they going to kind of maybe start curtailing some plays towards him? Are they maybe going to, you know, choose a little bit on what he can play? Because it just feels like it's never going to be possible, no matter what, to play both sides at the highest possible level.
1:05:56I agree with you. I don't see it being possible. What made you think that?
1:06:00Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's take it. Because whenever we were coming into the league, coming into the season, and once again, my name's on the show, and it's only from my perspective, so I'm going to say this, but there's only been one guy that they let kick and punt. and he was at Atlanta and he did not do well. He won like two for like 10 on field goals and then he went back to being a punter and he was a great punter and obviously a great field goal kicker as well. They even gave him the opportunity. When I was coming out of college, they're like, what do you think you are? I was like, I think I'm both.
1:06:25Pat McAfee:They're like, well, nobody's both. I was actually told you should never punt a football again because I was in the senior bowl as a kicker and the senior bowl obviously back then at least had a percentage of hit rate that like the NFL guys want. So I was actually told you should never punt a ball again. You should just focus on kicking. You can't do both. Now, granted, I did do that. I stopped punting, and then I get drafted to be a punter. Then a day after the draft, it's like, well, I guess we got to make up for some lost time here. At least three months of potentially learning how to do this because I focus on one thing.
1:06:55Pat McAfee:But the conversation around kicking and punting is like way too much time. It's hard to become an expert on either thing when there's only 32 jobs. And how are you going to manage your energy? How are you going to manage your reps? How are you going to do all that? So whenever we saw what Travis Hunter was doing in Colorado with Coach Prime, and he's like managing this day, well, we're managing here, well, we're managing here. I wanted longer season, higher level of competition and peers. You know, because if I was going to kick and punt, I had to be better than every kicker that they brought in and I had to be better than every punter that you brought in.
1:07:22Pat McAfee:So in this particular case, he has to be one of the top three wide receivers on the team. And he also has to be what? One of the top three corners on the team, let alone competing against the other team. You got to compete against your own fucking team. I think because of what they did, trading up to let them, they're going to give them every opportunity to do that. Or do you think there is like kind of a realization about like this might legitimately not be possible, which is why it's never really been possible. Yeah, I don't think they're necessarily in a rush because of where they are right now sitting at 3-1.
1:07:49If they can get a win tonight, they'll still be tied up there with the Colts for first place. But, yeah, it's just so tough. Even when I think about guys who play the same position, like you think about Darrell Revis and then Richard Sherman, like they were completely different corners. Like Darrell Revis wouldn't be Revis if he tried to play like Sherman and vice versa. So it's like even playing the same position, It's just so difficult and so different. And like you mentioned, week in and week out, teams are game playing. Okay, what is Travis Hunter good at coverage-wise? What is he good at as a receiver?
1:08:19So for him to balance that, it'll be so tough physically. I think a lot of guys could have lined up and played wide receiver and cornerback, but just the mental aspect of it, game in and game out.
1:08:28Pat McAfee:Because he does have high football IQ. Very high. You talked about having to be better than every kicker or punter that they brought in. It's the same thing with him, especially when you drafted number two overall. Like, you want to see that impact on whichever side of the ball it is. If it's, hey, you're just going to be a lockdown corner, maybe we sprinkle a little bit wide receiver or vice versa. So it's so tough. Could he be the first? Like we see with Shohei Ohtani or, you know, the second, but could he do it? It's possible. But do you want to sacrifice what you may have to sacrifice on either side of the field to get him to that point, especially when you're trying to build a contender that's trying to compete year in and year out?
1:09:05And I think, like we talked about it coming into the season, we had that wide receiver graphic. It was like, which teams have good wide receivers? When is he going to play more snaps or whatever? And I think it truly has been like that. So week one, he only played five snaps on defense. Week two, he played 38. Week three, he played 42. And then last week against the Niners, who are all banged up all over the wide receiver position, he only played nine on the defensive side. So you would think probably coming in tonight, especially if Worthy does play, he'll probably get another extended look on defense.
1:09:33But no, he's played about the same amount of snaps each week on offense. but vastly different on defense depending on which team they play. Well, and like you said, it's funny you bring up Shohei because that was kind of my argument. We just saw it the other night. He started the game, and he was the starting pitcher, but because you have to do both, he struck out four times at the plate. So it's like with Travis Hunter, he absolutely could do both, but is he making enough of an impact both ways that makes people say, that's why you gave all that up to trade up to number two to get this guy? It's like if you have to really put everything into both sides, are you kind of just watering down what he does so well on both sides?
1:10:11Pat McAfee:AJ, the season's slipping away. You know, we're already at week six, which we need to remember. Okay, for ourselves. But also these teams are starting to figure out who the hell they are as well. Travis Hunter figuring out what he is as well. Do you think that's going to be an ongoing experiment all season? Like when do you think they have a conversation, AJ? Yeah, I mean, I would assume it's a daily conversation on what to do with them. Like each week, you probably change up the plan a little bit. But I'm sure you guys remember, you have a guy, say you have like a D lineman that plays goal line offense.
1:10:43And the only time that you got to take the guy away from defense, there'll be a period you'll be doing some kind of defensive install or whatever. They'll have to yell down, make a big deal. Hey, send the big guy down. He's got to go run down and go play fullback with the offense. He has to maybe miss a couple of parts of a defensive meeting to sit in with the offense to go over their red zone plan or whatever. It just takes away during the day because, you know, like in meetings and walkthroughs and everything, I don't know if people realize offense and defense is completely separate. Like you're not doing anything together.
1:11:11You're not even seeing those guys that much outside of the team meeting until you get on the field for that first walkthrough and practice. Like you don't really interact much with the offense. So it does – you're always taking something to try to gain something, whatever you're going. So it's just how do you balance that? That's why we don't really see this happen ever because – so they're kind of showing us the way, I guess.
1:11:30Pat McAfee:The old classic Rob Peter to pay Paul, that's actually happening. You know, like you're actually stealing from the defense a time that you could be working, go over the offense and vice versa. The only time you're ever together is special teams, and usually stars aren't going to be a part of that. So team meeting, we're all receiving the same message. And then special teams, everybody's kind of in there. But other than that, you've got two different teams operating. I mean, that's been well documented throughout the history of football. All the way back to, what, Chicago, right? When Chicago was right where Rex – or not right.
1:11:59Pat McAfee:Buddy Ryan. Buddy Ryan. The 85 Bears, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the offense, they were – Yeah, like hated each other. Yeah. Was it Dicka and Ryan, right? Yep. Yeah, they told us they actually did not like every day. It was like, no, we're better. And they really did well with that. Yes. They did really, really well with that. But the team, that's why we always talk about the teams that get along. It's like because you're two different outfits, basically, and then you've got to come together. and if everybody gets along, you're in a much better spot. But it is easier to get along when you're winning.
1:12:31Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, I will say, boy, it's much easier to do that. Yeah, just completely forgot about for the game tonight, though, like the idea of that Worthy and Travis Hunter matchup, like that is going to be something. This whole entire day have been thinking to myself, they better play Travis Hunter every single snap on offense. And now, you know, like hearing that, it's like, oh, no, he better play every single snap on defense because it is awesome when you have a lockdown corner. For the Patriots, everyone's talking about May and the offense, and it's awesome. Diggs, Christian Gonzalez, just watching a football game and then never hearing a cornerback's name.
1:13:10And then the first time you hear him, it's a guy catching a ball out of bounds because he's covered so well. And then the second time you hear him, it's him breaking up a pass on third down. It's one of those things where it's like, oh, my gosh, I forgot. We have our best player on defense back. This is why the Patriots look so good.
1:13:26Pat McAfee:On that note, if you're those guys, there's a lack of respect for you. How many pass breakups, how many passes defense. If you were to go through like Rivas, you know, whenever he was playing, like how many pass breakups you have. He only averages one pass breakup. How many throws are going his way? Because that's what you literally just go into irrelevance if you're one of those guys. Gonzalez, I think, has become one of those dudes. Yes. Which is a good thing. Great thing. But it's not great for brand building. Yeah. You know? Well, I mean, if you know, you know. And then once you get paid and defense, according, and I can talk about enough, like if a corner goes down, like it probably won't change the point spread at all.
1:14:06But it's going to completely change how the coordinator is calling that defense. Or if you don't have a guy like Charles Woodson playing the slot that week, that completely changes how that defense is going to be played and called. And just every game just means so much. with the Travis Hunter conversation, like every play too. If he runs one wrong route and Lawrence tries to lead him somewhere, that's an interception. And the same thing on the defense. You blow one coverage, that could be a touchdown. So you're playing very high leverage positions out there. Yeah, that's what sucks though. Because Gonzo isn't a loud social media guy at all or anything, people see PFF rankings and think, oh, okay, so if he's ranked 11th, he's the 11th best corner in the NFL.
1:14:47And it's awesome for PFF just because it feels as though Collinsworth started it and he's just kind of held on to that job, even though he's been saying the same thing for 20 years. And it's awesome that he does have that job because I do think there was probably a time where he was good at it, even though, you know, when you go back.
1:15:04Pat McAfee:What, are your Patriots fans not liking him after last night? Oh, no. So this is the only reason I'm saying it is because, like, I didn't – when I told Collinsworth – I didn't tell Collinsworth. When I tweeted, this game would be so much better if Collinsworth would just shut the fuck up. What was he making Patriots fans mad? No, no. He was building May up. But it's just like the same watered down. I'm pretty sure he said the same thing about Josh Allen in the first quarter and then said like, no one's going to remember that I said this earlier. And then say the same thing about Drake May. Oh, no.
1:15:36Drake May's pissed.
1:15:36Pat McAfee:Drake May's pissed too. Drake May's pissed too. And look what Chris Collinsworth is doing right now. He's dancing in your brain. He's spinning your drink. Well, no, no. He's not dancing in my brain at all. I just think he's been robbing money from NBC for a long time. I think PFF has proven that they don't know what they're talking about. Steve Spagnuolo just came out. Steve Spagnuolo, probably going to see him on the camera, on the broadcast tonight. He's basically the greatest defensive coordinator in the history of the NFL. And he came out and said, like, well, when PFF ranks players, they have no fucking idea what they're talking about.
1:16:04No, no, no. So, again, why would rankings like that be on the most watched game every week? You probably think to yourself, like, okay, they must know what they're talking about. They don't. But that's what bums me out about Sunday Night Football. But that's why I'm so excited about tonight. Okay. Monday Night Football. Joe and Troy are the goats. I love them two on the call together. And I genuinely think this is going to be a great football game.
1:16:29Pat McAfee:I think it's going to be a great football game as well. And I would also like to say, Chris, we're big fans. That was PFF. That's not true. That's not true. That was part of it. Do you want me to leave the stage and then you can say we're big fans? That's okay. I can't do it anymore. Congrats. to the Patriots get a huge win. And that's life as a commentator right there. Yeah. Especially if you've been around a long time. I don't know. I don't know because even for Herbie, fan bases will go after Herbie, but for the most part, people like how he calls a game. If you actually go through those replies in my tweet, I didn't see one person.
1:17:06Actually, that's not true. One person did say, dude, come on, man. He's awesome. And then I responded to him and I was like, wait, are you serious? And he said, no, of course not. So if you look through the replies, it was – I've never seen a unanimous, like, yeah, this guy's ruining football ever in my life. Really? Yes. Oh, geez. That's surprising.
1:17:24Pat McAfee:Chris has been giving a lot to the game. Well, that's the thing, too. So when I looked up, like, okay, fine. Like, I only know him as a broadcaster. Let me go look up his highlights as a player. And then the only thing that came up was this really weird interview. And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, he played football. Yeah, great, great football player. Great Bengals receiver. Great Bengals receiver. He's been giving to football a long time. Okay, Texans get a massive 44-10 win in Baltimore. Baltimore, interesting. Interesting state. Now, there's a lot of people calling for hardball. And you heard Tone laugh.
1:17:51Pat McAfee:Literally, he was celebrating in the suite as the Texans were thumping and throttling this Baltimore Ravens team. Oh, athletic. I'm starting with athletic. Well, he passed the athletic test, I think, whenever he played down in Georgia, whenever we watched him play against Georgia. He was able to run a lot. And C.J. Stroud has obviously had a lot of bad things said about him as a quarterback since his rookie year. And this Texans team, I think a lot of us are confused on what they are or where they're headed. There's no confusion about what this Baltimore Ravens defense, I guess, at this point.
1:18:23Pat McAfee:They're not really able to stop anything. And on offense, they don't really know what's going on. But to their kind of point, their top seven paid guys, six, seven, top seven paid guys were all out. I mean, this is disgusting. the injury bug that has hit the Baltimore Ravens. They're nowhere near the team that they thought they were going to have going into the season at this particular point, so early in the year. So it sucks for them. And Bruce yesterday, all he kept saying is, they're this year's Niners. They're this year's Niners. Last year, the Niners obviously lose Christian McCaffrey like four days before the season starts.
1:18:58Pat McAfee:Then they have injuries riddled throughout, and they just have a year that's just like a terrible year, like four wins, five wins, and we all just kind of say, man, what happened to the Niners? That kind of sucked. Is that what we're standing down here for the Ravens? I think that is what everybody expects. Now, you heard Schefter give an answer to Witt there. They got the Rams coming up, and then they got a bye. If they were to give Lamar two weeks and then try to make a push late, I guess they could maybe make a run at it. But this is not what we expected from the Ravens at all this year. And that injury bug's real.
1:19:26Pat McAfee:And if it attacks your roster, especially your top seven paid guys, I mean, you're in a bad spot regardless of who you got doing anything. This is not at all what we expected. They were, I believe, the favorites to win the Super Bowl at the beginning of the season. And, yeah, the injury bug has hit them hard. But the last two weeks, Derrick Henry has eight carries for 42. Sorry, let's just go back the last four weeks. 11 for 23, 12 for 50, 8 for 42, 15 for 33. Derrick Henry's not hurt. Like, give him the – like, if Lamar's out, you thought he had like six carries for seven yards in the first half yesterday.
1:19:58Yeah, they were down or whatever. But, like, we did this last year at the beginning of the year for the Ravens. Derrick Henry wasn't getting a bunch of carries, and it was a talking point every single week. And then they just started to feed him, and then they took off. But, like, you expect these type of organizations to be able to overcome these type of things. Especially, yes, this is the first game Lamar was hurt. Like, this one you could put aside. But the other ones, Lamar was healthy. Like, you kind of expect them to over. Steelers wins the playoffs with a duck hunter as their quarterback.
1:20:24Quack, quack. He was a great player. You expect these great organizations to potentially overcome these things and at least put out a better effort than 41-10 or whatever.
1:20:33Pat McAfee:John Harbaugh last year, remember, we're not giving Derrick Henry the ball 20, 30 times a game. That's not a winning recipe. And then they started doing that. Is it as easy as that for the Sponsor Ravens? It looks bad all over the place. So bad. Yeah, they weren't even competitive. You mentioned once you go down a few scores, you know, you kind of take Derrick Henry out of the game pretty much. And we know the fumbling issues you had coming into it. But, you know, the Niners this year, we talked about Niners last year. Shit, they lost to start quarterback this year. Ayuk's still out. Kittle's been hurt since week one.
1:21:01Did they win? Nick Bosa, he's out for the year. So, like, you can look at the roster and say, yeah, we're banged up. But Mac Jones, you go out there and you put a good effort for it. Like, for Cooper Rush to come out there and throw three picks, and that is a very, very tough defense. And we also thought Texans coming into the season would be competitive if they could turn the corner and actually protect C.J. Stroud. So they're kind of hitting their stride a little bit. But I didn't expect – I know top seven guys, I don't know if we've ever seen that, but I didn't expect them to be that non-competitive.
1:21:29No, and we can talk about the Derrick Henry thing because that is a big deal. I mean, we saw what happened last year when they basically stopped doing that and just gave him the ball. But their offense hasn't been the problem so far this year. Yesterday it wasn't great, but Harbaugh said yesterday after the game, hey, I'm sticking with Zach Orr, you know, and every Baltimore fan just killed him for it. But it's one of those things where typically injuries are going to happen. It sucks, obviously, but good teams just find a way. You can't waste a year of Lamar in his prime. You just can't do that because I get the Purdy thing, but with last year in the Niners, Purdy isn't Lamar Jackson.
1:22:04You cannot waste a year of this guy's prime. That would be a shame. When's the last time? When's the last time they were 1-4? Oh, shit. Ever with Harbaugh?
1:22:15Pat McAfee:What Tony was about to say there is they are still the favorites of the AFC North to win the AFC North. That's crazy. Crazy. I don't know if he can short that. What was that guy who was a drummer but he was also – Michael Burry? Yeah. What was the big short? I don't know if we – can we do that? I don't know if he can do that. He's probably fine away. predictive market. You could if there was a predictive market that you could do that for. 2015, they started like this and they finished 5-11. I just got stat from the back. Thank you for pulling that, 5-11. So they kind of just kind of punted on the year.
1:22:43Pat McAfee:It's loud about Harbaugh, though. Yeah. AJ, isn't it? It's louder about John Harbaugh than it has been in years past, it feels like. Now, it definitely started last year. I mean, and probably a year before that. Anytime you're anywhere for that long of a time, some people can get sick of the message and the messenger at the same exact time. and if they don't have success, it's like, well, how much more times does this guy need to build a culture that has success? We saw Bill Belichick go to the Super Bowl every other year for 20 years. Is that what we're doing here or not doing it? It's like, top guys, all your top guys hurt.
1:23:11Pat McAfee:That sucks. That is obviously bad news, but it's been loud about John Harbaugh, AJ. It's been loud. It's a weird thing when a guy has been there for as long as he has and I don't know, and I guess they haven't gotten over the hump. You have a talent like Lamar. He doesn't have a ring yet. It is weird. You lose two games in a row and they think, oh, we need a fresh voice. We need to turn the page. Grass is always greener. I don't know the answer. Hardball has obviously proven to be a great, great football coach, but when is the time when they do move on and they do need a new voice? I'm not saying they do, but it's a weird thing.
1:23:47People want to get rid of coaches after a week or two sometimes.
1:23:50Pat McAfee:Coach Saban was talking about it this weekend a little bit at dinner, about how everybody just wants to move. Who are you going to hire? That's a good question. And then how about when the people – in the NFL, you'd hope that there would be another great coach just right around the corner. Congrats to Callahan. Yeah. That was awesome. They win. Golly. Golly is a good way to describe that. Up until then, I was happy for it. I was happy for stress levels and everything about it. A good win for them. How about him watching the football gods just kind of turn – That's crazy. This is crazy, by the way.
1:24:19Pat McAfee:Yes. Come on. By the way, this is the type of thing that would be happening to, you know, The Titans. This is something. All the things that happened yesterday in that game for the Titans would be something that the Titans would – this would be something that if the Titans player did, we'd all say, of course this is what happens down there in Tennessee. Instead, it goes their way. Snap off the face, it goes their way. And then in the end, they end up winning it. Joey Slash sneaks one in the side door. Sneaks one in very close to the side door. This play right here, I mean, absolute Murphy's Law if you're there.
1:24:53Pat McAfee:for the Tennessee Titans. It's like, Callahan had to be wondering what the hell, this is usually my life, what's going on on the other side. So good for him getting a big time win and congrats to Cam Ward getting his work. Dude, that was bad. I don't even know what AQ Shippen's thoughts are. Oh, I couldn't imagine. Yes, yes. He's coming commentator for the Arizona Cardinals. That was almost a miss there. We sneak it in the side door. Shout out to Sly doing that. And what a moment legitimately just in the history of football. And then Kyler Murray has to own that, that their team lost that game.
1:25:31Pat McAfee:And Gannon, I'm sure, has not slept since the moment that game ended. The internet was asking, and I honestly had the same question because Kyler left the game. Did he get a concussion from that snap? There's a chance. A lot of heat on it. A lot of heat on it. They checked him for it, right? Didn't they check him? I mean, he didn't. He doesn't even know where he is. Great snap, though, right to the face. I mean, just like Danny Dimes. Oh, their old buddy pats him on the head multiple times. Sorry. Yeah, gives him a little wakey-wakey. Give him a little wakey-wakey. Fitz said the thing he likes about Danny Dimes is all the weapons are tall, and he's hitting everybody right in the face mask.
1:26:03Pat McAfee:Good jump on the edge there. Might have been a sack anyways. Ball ends up hitting him in the face. Baker Mayfield and the Bucs head into Seattle and win on the final play. The last two wins have come on the final play. There are four comeback victories and one this season. They might be team of destiny. We started chitchatting about this earlier. With the way they've been winning games, how they've been winning games, and everything that happened with Baker Mayfield and his football life, especially whenever he gets booted out of Cleveland, and then he starts on the punt block team. I mean, ball's banking off of heads.
1:26:33Pat McAfee:Levante David not even seeing the ball and then just closing his hands and getting an interception, and then them going on to get a huge win in Seattle. This is just week after week after week for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the football gods seemingly blessing this team that we've loved to watch, and their uniforms were definitely filthy yesterday. AJ, is this a team of destiny down there in Tampa? And is it because Cleveland? It might have a little bit to do with Cleveland, but it does feel kind of that way. This was an awesome game. Talk about two high-level quarterbacks. These guys both played awesome.
1:27:03Obviously, Sam Darnold, they get that ricochet pick, and obviously that ricochet was due to pressure that they were bringing against him. But, man, Baker looks so confident. He looks so good. Also, Sam Darnold does as well. Look at his time he has, too, to throw. These are two teams, I think, obviously the Bucs, we know how good they are. I think the Seahawks, too, because of the whole West Coast bias. People sleep on them at times, but I think they are a real legit contender in the NFC.
1:27:26Pat McAfee:I love that Sam Darnold is doing what he's doing right now, which then leads right back to the Minnesota Vikings. Get a huge win over to Cleveland Browns at 9.30 a.m. over there in London. Dylan Gabriel's first start in the NFL. So I'm spinning a little bit. Yes. Debo, what are your thoughts on DG as he does his first start for the Browns in London? He looked good. With a young quarterback, you always need a run game. I thought Junkins looked very, very good as well. Fanny Jr., another rookie there, so they drafted well. But, yeah, the moment didn't look too big for Dylan Gabriel at all. He stepped up to the plate.
1:28:01He looked good for a first start. Almost stole a win. And then on the flip side on Carl, Carl got it done. Big time win. Justin Jefferson is ridiculous. Regardless of who's throwing the football, He's always going to make his plays. Then Jordan Addison coming into the game with some, I guess, some disciplinary issues. Can't he miss the walkthrough or something? Yeah, which is – that's a big deal. That's a huge deal. We talk about it all the time about the things. He was going to look at Buckingham Palace. Cam Bynum was here. And that happens too, especially with these overseas trips. It happened my rookie year when I was playing for the Patriots, a veteran, came in late, one of our wide receivers as well.
1:28:34But, yeah, he still – for him to show up and make some big plays, the biggest plays down the stretch after being benched. So that's a big time for him. And then Justin Jefferson kind of spoke about it after, too. Like, hey, I need to do a better job of taking him under my wing and doing these things. But for a guy like that, you got to be a pro. It's time to grow up. You already had some off-the-field issues. You are very, very talented. Like, lock in and, you know, reach your full potential. But a huge win for the Vikings.
1:28:57Pat McAfee:AJ, they're calling him Carson Wentz, bro. Win, because that's all he does, win, win, except for last week. He just, you know, and maybe previous stops in this whole thing. Kevin O 'Connell, Carson Wentz, get a big-time win. So Dylan Gabriel obviously has his moment and proves that he's going to be an NFL guy. Carson Wentz still doing it. AJ, what's your takeaway from 9.30 a.m. kickoff Sunday? I love watching. We talk about it all the time. Obviously, Justin Jefferson is just out of this world, how good he is. But I just love watching Carson Wentz. He plays with a reckless abandon. He does not care about his health and safety.
1:29:29He doesn't care about anything. He's just trying whatever he can to get a win. And honestly, huge drive by him, huge touchdown pass to win this game. The Browns should have won this game most likely. But, you know, Cleveland fans say that's the Browns. That's what they do. But when you have a guy like Justin Jefferson, this is pretty awesome to see. But Carson Wentz, I mean, people – I think people don't really give him the credit that he deserves. He was slinging it for a little bit in this league early on. MVP. MVP.
1:29:54Pat McAfee:And then he gets hurt on a quarterback sneak, I believe. And then, obviously, Big Richard, Nick Foles comes in, leads them to a Super Bowl. Then it all collapsed in Philadelphia either from egos or personalities or who knows what takes place. I don't know if we're ever going to find out the real story. Then he bounces around, comes here to Indy. Thought we had one. He walks into our downtown office. You go, wow, this guy's a giant. This guy's an absolute giant. Then I followed him for a season. I still don't know how his parents survived. I still don't know how his parents have been able to watch him play sports or this sport for his entire life because I assume he's played this way his entire life.
1:30:31Pat McAfee:Every play could be the greatest play in the history of football, every single one of them. the ball is in play could be the best play of all time and whenever it hits it's great and if he has Justin Jefferson down there somewhere he's going to continue to let this thing go to Justin Jefferson if there's an opportunity for it I enjoy the way he plays KOC could be the guy but this goes back to the Sam Darnold conversation with the way Sam's playing right now if Sam was still with the Vikings or Aaron Rodgers with the way he's playing if he was with the Vikings would they be they be in a much better position than they're currently in waiting for J.J.
1:31:03Pat McAfee:with Carson Wentz playing football. And I think Carson almost got hurt. There was a guy named... I hurt. What was the guy's name? There was a guy that was about to go in and I've never heard of him. We all had probably the same... He was holding his helmet on his head. He looked very uncomfortable. I'm like, who's this guy? This guy's going in right now. You did this? It was on my TV. Brosmer. There it is. Max Brosmer. Max Brosmer. It was on TV in my kitchen area. Hanging out with Mackenzie. I look up. I see this guy holding it, and then he's shoot on Carson. He's hurt. I'm like, that guy's not a quarterback because he was, like, walking behind everybody looking at no idea where he was.
1:31:39Carson went to the locker room.
1:31:40Pat McAfee:Oh, no, who's this guy? But I would have assumed he did good because Kevin O 'Connell's their coach. But if you think about all the options they potentially had looking at the year, it's interesting where they are because I think they have a great team. Will they still be? We shall see. We shall see because I love their defense. I think the interior line definitely needs to figure it out. But, yeah, when you're seeing what Sam Darnold is doing out there in Seattle and you can just imagine him being another year more comfortable in this KLC offense, who knows what that'll be. Who knows what J.J.
1:32:10McCarthy will end up being, too. I know right now, you know, before he got hurt, he didn't look like the guy. We'll see how he looks when he comes back. But with this game, did we get any fun factoids from McQuaid this week or no?
1:32:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, did we get anything from McQuaid about another U.K.-Ireland game? No factoids. is at least I wasn't sent any factoids, but I did see a studio show with McQuaid from Sky Sports. I'll try to find that and send it back in. It was exceptional. Exceptional coverage. Basically, he's just sitting there in the studio and recapping the game. And yeah, let's just say McQuaid knocked it out of the park. I did see a post. There was 32 jerseys at this one. All 32 teams represented. We played in London. It was not just 32 NFL teams. There was probably every baseball and NBA jersey was represented. just American sports was kind of celebrated.
1:32:57Pat McAfee:But I think that is the difference between the Ireland game. That's what McQuaid was trying to say. A lot of Americans traveling to Ireland for that particular game. I think London is viewed as like a, I think they say the Germans. A lot of the Germans come. A lot of English people and Germans are at those particular games. So it's a celebration of American sports. Have another one this weekend. Yeah. 9.30 a.m. football again. It's a good time to be alive, AJ. On that note, speaking of good time to be alive, mark sanchez okay so we all followed this story on the internet as it was unfolding us i think a little bit closer because we're from indianapolis uh we live here in indianapolis and uh i love this like i'm very thankful to be here so whenever i saw that mark sanchez who was here to call the colts raiders game uh ended up being stabbed on friday night or whatever it was obviously alarming like i was like oh no this is not good i do not like that this is happening in our city this cannot be what we're known for and everybody that was reporting it was like indianapolis indianapolis indianapolis and obviously got highly politicized everybody's talking about how bad and this comes just a couple weeks after warren g uh was on a podcast and said that indianapolis dangerous city or whatever and obviously there are certain parts the warren g yeah regulators yes mount up yeah he said it i think it was a couple weeks ago about indianapolis so there's a lot of conversation it gets highly political and then as the details continue to emerge it's like oh no this is a incredibly disappointing situation that took place in a part of downtown where i think if you were to probably just give a good guess i think there was a lot of potential boozing going on i think there was uh probably a lack of memory of what happened does not excuse it but i'm just saying as the details mark was the aggressor i guess to this uh box truck driver who's a 69 year old man they end up getting into a fight allegedly from reports that we've been told and Angela Gonneau here of Fox 59 News in Indianapolis I think she was live at the time that it was all taking place and continue to cover it I think she has been the authority basically on what the actual reports are in the interviews and actually reports going on and she's from Indianapolis and I think she took a lot of pride like hey you're burying our city right now this might not be the story at all never want anybody to get stabbed don't like any physical altercations but allegedly from what's being actually reported in there's video on it and i appreciate the indianapolis police department being so quick on this being like yo yo yo this is not the case uh him and he i guess aggressor to the 69 year old but is what's being reported and box truck driver in truck get out there's an entire thing say hey you keep i got a knife ends up stabbing him pepper spray pepper sprays him tries to stop and ends up stabbing there's like a full altercation a full fight that's taking place and then report about photos have come out now of the 69-year-old box truck his entire cheek is like sliced up here once again he's 69 years old he's in the hospital he's in wires too as well like he ends up in best sanchez obviously uh there he had him in critical condition at one point anytime he gets stabbed obviously it feels like you're always like this far away from something potentially being catastrophic so it's like incredibly terrible event took place here in indy but it's like what it was initially being reported about the city i don't think is accurate just seems like it It was a terrible, terrible, terrible mistake made while probably very intoxicated.
1:36:18Pat McAfee:They are charging him with Mark Sanchez with a felony, I believe, a fifth-degree felony, which carries a one - to six-year charge and everything like that. So, happy. It sounds like both guys okay. Yeah, alive. Is he at the hospital yet? Is Sanchez still in the hospital? I think he was, yeah. Then he was booked. He's out, and he already made bail. I think his bail was like$300. bucks and then yeah because it was like a bunch of misdemeanors and then but that was before they charged him with the felony too so i don't know yeah so tomorrow is his hearing i believe i don't i don't think he can leave indiana now because he's been waived it and uh he has a court date set for uh november 4th oh okay angela gano has can we put this up please angela gano once again she's literally been on it the whole time judge just granted the motion to waive initial hearing for mark sanchez a pre-trial conference his next first court date is set for november 4th 2025 at 8 30 a.m so it's like terrible situation and uh our city does a lot of hosting you know like a lot of hosting a lot of people come from out of town so whenever the reports are like indianapolis got it's like that's whoa whoa like downtown area hotel everything's set up we are a big we we enjoy people coming to our city and uh this incredibly sad and then another incredibly sad Tyron Lacey's story coming out from down there at LSU.
1:37:35Pat McAfee:I mean, this is heartbreaking, disgusting. You name all of it. LSU wide receiver obviously ends up killing himself in a car after he crashes his car into a pole or an off bank. And this is on the same day he's about to get charged with vehicular homicide. It didn't happen. The reports of what he did were completely wrong. And his lawyer in postpartum at his funeral told him, hey, I got your back. Here he comes in here at the end, Karen Lacey. So that's the accident that takes place. That is obviously the topic of all the charges that take place. There's Karen Lacey in the green charger there. They're saying he was 74 yards behind the actual hit or 100 yards behind the actual hit.
1:38:23Pat McAfee:Crash whenever it happens. He does drive around it. he ends up getting charged for this entire thing and ends up killing himself in before we even get a chance to see what he could become uh what he could do for his family his community and everything like that so this is another thing that was just like false allegations falsely reported changed his entire life and then now we're finding out after he's dead that he didn't do it it's like sad like all these things were kind of happening at the same time and it's like just not it's not We got to get that shit right. That can't be. That Kyron Lacey story is sad.
1:38:59Pat McAfee:Did he get in a wreck afterwards or something? After that he got in a wreck and then they accused him of causing the initial wreck? So that was in December, that particular crash right there. He was getting charged for. He was getting very serious charges for. And then in April is when he ended up taking his life. Allegedly, he was at a family gathering beforehand, like a cookout or something like that. Something took place and then he leaves, crashes, and then shoots himself. afterwards. So, couldn't even imagine the pressure. This is when he was going to get drafted. The whole world thinks he's the worst person on earth.
1:39:31That basically plummeted his draft stock and it was like, okay, you can't draft this guy. Look what's going on. None of it fucking happened. I don't understand how something like that happens. How does this not come out until this point? I've seen some of the body cam footage and some of the other stuff. That can't happen. Somebody's got to pay severely for doing that type of shit to railroad him. because you talk about his, you know, obviously it plummeted his draft stock, but literally ended his life. Ultimately, and not only just his life, just think about his family. Like, you know, the people that care about him, people that love his teammates.
1:40:02I saw a lot of his former teammates and coaches and people that were close to him. So it's just incredibly sad. I don't understand how something like this can happen. Hats off to his lawyer for, you know, sticking to his word and sticking to it and getting to the bottom of these things because it is tough a lot of times when things are getting covered up or pointed in a certain direction. to actually get the truth out of it. So shout out to him. Obviously, it won't matter to Kyra Lacey at this point, but at least his family. Clear his family. Yeah, everybody.
1:40:31Pat McAfee:I mean, because what was being reported was just matter of fact. Yeah. Like what we were reading and everything was like, nope, this is this. We got witness here. Now we're learning about why and how the witness came to say what they – and it's like that's nasty work, dude. Like why? Yeah. T's and P's, we are so sorry about all this. Obviously, we can't do anything other than that at this point, but that sucks. And then for 69-year-old Mark Sanchez, happy you guys are both alive. And whatever ends up happening here, it's like well-deserved. And hopefully this changes a life a little bit. There's some things that need to change, too.
1:41:08Pat McAfee:I need to talk about that. These sky camps. AJ, have you seen this? Come on. Oh, yeah. I thought we were way past this. This camp. Okay. Great shot. So, listen, Skycam, in this particular case, maybe doesn't know. Oh, boom, off the head. They're hitting the Skycam. They're down. Wait, what? Yeah, Justin Fields throws a rocket. Bang. Off his forehead. That thing takes off at about 30 miles an hour right for him. Let's go back to the side angle. I'm not 100 % sure anybody could have caught up to this ball. I know D-Lineman are incredibly explosive. That ball's going very quick at that spike. I think that thing's gone.
1:41:45With someone around him, Fields.
1:41:46Pat McAfee:I think he would have had to 4-2 that thing. I think that thing's going really fast that way. But we'll never know. Guess what was in the way? The Skycam. Let's go to the thing that the Skycam has been attacking forever. Kickers footballs. And nobody believes anybody but the kickers. This one, I'll tell you, I don't know. It's close. Hits a pinky. There's a Skycam wire there. It does turn to the right. Is that because of the pinky right there? or is it because it hits a SkyCam wire right there where it starts to get a little fatter? I don't know. We don't know. Maybe both. It shouldn't be that close, though.
1:42:28Pat McAfee:It shouldn't be. I agree. But also, on that note, don't know if it hit the SkyCam wire here. No, it definitely hit a pinky there. Good block by the year of the block continues almost for the Cleveland Browns. But we shouldn't even be having a discussion on whether or not it hits SkyCam. Get the thing out of the way. Get the thing. now that's in europe okay so maybe it was a soccer yeah sky camera sure yeah maybe maybe they don't understand you maybe it was a european didn't know where the ball was going there stay out of the way we're not 100 sure but we can't have a sky camera in a way we appreciate what sky cam has brought love we appreciate what sky cam has brought we love the view we love the angles can't be getting in again is this the sky cam trying to make a name for itself could be maybe talk about how important it is watch this that's what just did that yeah exactly i can do this anytime I want.
1:43:14Pat McAfee:I'm just like any other drone out there. I can take over whenever I want to take over. Let me go spit this thing out. I don't love it. It's a joke. That's a live ball too, right? If we catch that off the sky cam? I think Bank plays, yeah. Actually, they'll play that. They would definitely make it again. I think they would definitely run the play again, except for in this case, they didn't do that, which everybody got mad about. So if this, say, ricochets right down and I catch it, go pick six. I think that's a replay. If it touches the sky cam at all, yeah. Like when it used to hit Dallas' old big screen, remember when it was low?
1:43:43Pat McAfee:Yeah. With that dead ball? Yeah, they changed it to replay of down, but they didn't do it in this case. So everybody was like, what? Imagine if this happens in a big game. Imagine if this happens in a playoff game, honestly. Like a playoff game at some point. And a huge game that means something, it truly does affect the game. Like, then what? And on that note, I don't know if the Jets and Justin Fields are going to make the playoffs this year and go on a run and maybe have a Skycam moment, but he should feel really good about his arm strength. So I played volleyball in high school. when you would hit somebody, boom, with the ball, and it would hit off their chest, bang, and it would go up and out of bounds somewhere.
1:44:17Pat McAfee:It felt like a king. This dude threw a football so hard off a guy's face. This thing took off out of orbit and hit the sky cam up there. Justin Fields should feel good about what he's doing right now. Now, granted, they're not winning any games. That's right. But he should feel good about how that ball is coming off. And that guy's forehead, he should feel good too about being able to just eat a 90-mile-an-hour football right to the forehead. Now, 90-mile-an-hour football is certainly something. Baseball happened this weekend as well. Do you have any huge baseball updates, Ty, maybe that we can all learn about and chit-chat about?
1:44:49Pat McAfee:Heard Canada's better than America at baseball. I didn't know that was the case. Did you know that? No, that's not true. Don't listen to whoever's saying that. Ty, can you please give us all an update on what's happening in baseball? Yeah, sure. To that point, yeah, unfortunately, pretty gutless performance by the Yankees up in Canada over the weekend. Oh, no. Vlad Guerrero. I mean, we could talk through this whole thing, but, you know, if you want me to just be very succinct about it, the Blue Jays had about 400 fucking home runs against the Yankees. The Yankees didn't do anything. So they're going back to New York tomorrow down 2-0 in an elimination game.
1:45:21Like I said, just pathetic through and through for everything that you had heard. So as of right now, yeah, you could argue that Canada is better than, you know, at least New York at baseball. What about the dude? What do you have, 10 strikeouts? Yeah, what the hell happened there? Yeah, Trey Yassavage, who was making, I believe, his fourth start, struck out 11 Yankees in four innings, which, again, this is kind of the Yankees' MO. They hit a lot of home runs, but they also swing at a lot of shitty pitches and strike out a lot. Very heavy lefty lineup, and he was just eating them up with his split finger all day.
1:45:54So that's not great. So they have to win. You can cut this shit, Pacquiao. So is it their time for their guy to go again? like game one against the Red Sox, their ace is as you're gone. That's what it was in the first game. Toronto pitched their number one guy against the Yankees, number four, but then Max Fried, who is the Yankees' ace, pitched the other day and just got absolutely shelled. We'll see. They got to go. Their backs are against the wall. They were against the Red Sox. The other big series from the weekend, which the NL only played one game, but we had Dodgers and Phillies. Shohei on the bump.
1:46:32And he wasn't super sharp, but he did calm down. You can see strikeout early here. Schwarbo, boy, I'll tell you what. Schwarbo missed one just very, very close in the first inning after we talked to him last week. And then Shohei hit a bit of a rough patch against the Phillies in the second inning. I mean, you know, again, a lot of strikeouts from Shohei. Hey, he did pitch well, but the Phillies got to him. They took an early lead, and your guy, Zach was absolutely dealing early. Unfortunately, he did fall apart. You can see here, this is JT Real Muto, who hit a triple into the gap to kind of get things going for the Phillies early.
1:47:15At this point, it looked like they were going to chase Shohei, and that was going to be it. They were going to kind of have a very comfortable and easy win. This is Harrison Bader just narrowly, narrowly missing a home run and getting a sack fly. So the Phillies put up three early against Shohei, which is kind of exactly what they want to do. But the Dodgers are so good. They always respond. Teoscar Hernandez, three-run homer to go ahead and put the Dodgers up 5-3. And that was kind of all she wrote. So the Dodgers take a one-run lead and kind of save somewhat of a subpar outing from Shohei. He did go 0-4 at the plate.
1:47:49That's kind of one of the things I was saying is, hey, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul a little bit there because he's got to focus on both. And then the Milwaukee Brewers blew out the Cubs with a lot of singles. That's just kind of how they play. A lot of small ball, just bad on ball skills, putting the ball in play nonstop. They're hard to strike out. So, I mean, this highlight is basically the same thing over and over again. Single to the outfield, single to the outfield, double to the gap, single to the outfield, single to the outfield. And they just kept putting a quarter in the merry-go-round and scoring runs.
1:48:22They blew out the Cubs. And then probably the game of the weekend, series of the weekend, the Detroit Tigers traveling to Seattle. Tarek Skubel, who is probably going to be the AL Cy Young, he gave up his first multi-home run game to a player in a little over four years, I believe, Jorge Polanco there for the Mariners. Hit a home run early, and then he touches Skubel again late to give them a 2-0 lead. And that was pretty much all they would need. They do get one more from Julio Rodriguez in a little bit here when the game was tied 2-2. So Detroit did have a little bit of a run in them. Ultimately, though, the Mariners, even the series last night after this, they pull ahead to it's 1-1 now, and that was the first postseason win in Seattle in 24 years.
1:49:14Congrats, Seattle!
1:49:15Pat McAfee:The atmosphere was amazing. So where it stands right now, Yankees are down 2-0 to the Blue Jays. The Cubs are down 1-0 to the Brewers. The Mariners-Tigers is 1-1, and then the Dodgers have one game up on the Phillies. So the NL teams are playing tonight, and then tomorrow night we'll have the AL teams. So, you know, again, Monday Night Football got a great game tonight, but we got a couple really good games tonight and tomorrow, postseason baseball. Baseball's delivering a little bit, AJ. WNBA, the Aces are currently up 2-zip, best of 7, in the finals against the Mercury. Okay. The Yankees got to win three straight, Ty?
1:49:54Sorry, the Yankees got to win three straight? Yes, they do. Yeah, the Yankees. Wait, so does Asia have to win three straight then, though? Who? Or the Aces are up? They're up. Okay. Yeah, they're up. So, the – okay.
1:50:04Pat McAfee:It was a battle. The first – I didn't see the second game. First game. Mercury are tough, too. It was like 86, 84, something like that. I forget what the exact score was. It was a battle, though. It was tight in the playoffs. Hey, baseball's doing it – or sports are doing it right now. Sports are doing it right now. I think the Stars are stepping. We saw a big dumper coming around third base scoring right there and that highlight package. So, yeah, man, I like when the Stars are playing well. I guess it's good for baseball maybe. I guess, is it good for baseball if the Yankees win, Ty? I think it is.
1:50:29I don't know. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you know. Yes, that's a Boston fan right there. Yeah, everybody, including myself, wants Yankees-Dodgers again. Yeah, exactly. I mean, no offense to the Blue Jays because they are arguably the best team in the majors. They just, like, play the game the right way. But they have a couple Stars. But yeah, I mean, if the Yankees lose, you're probably going to see a large chunk of just like the common fans who like don't want to watch Blue Jays Mariners or Blue Jays Tigers. And if you love baseball, it's a great, you know, it's a great series. But yeah, I mean, the Yankees have star power, you know.
1:51:02I don't want to hit. I see a bunch of guys slapping singles, man. Yeah. And people like to hate watching the Yankees too. I want to see ding dong. Yeah. Which Toronto has been doing. They hit about fucking 40 homers. Did he hit a grand slamming? He did, yeah. He hit a homer in the first game as well and then hit a grand slam in game two to kind of –
1:51:19Pat McAfee:Hold on. Can we turn the sound on, please, for this one? We don't have it. Is that Dan Shulman and Buck Martinez going crazy? No, not just them. The crowd? No. Yeah. Rogers Center, that's a true home field advantage. The Blue Jays, I think, are like 51-24 at home this year, which is just absolutely insane. They are so hard to beat in Toronto. So, we'll see. That one with the hotel? Yes, the hotel in center field. Were you there when you played football there? I think I played my last college game there for the international ball. Really? It was great. You've been there. We played Buffalo, so Buffalo, they travel.
1:51:56Pat McAfee:We played the Bills there for preseason. And you went to a Yankees-Blue Jays game there. Is that where eliminate? No. It might have been. Nah, probably not. That was probably where I assume were the Maple Leafs play. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Got into some shit up here. Lake allot. A couple world leaders responded after I said some stuff. Oh, yeah. That's good. Yeah, it's always a fun time, AJ. That's insane. Just open the phone. What a crazy time. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Man, I wish I had my plate from 15. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. 15. 1587. YouTube TV, every game, every Sunday, all in one place with NFL Sunday Ticket.
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1:53:10Pat McAfee:Scott Hanson kills it. We're still watching, right, Zone? Yeah. I'm battling. Still battling. I don't like it. Yep. It is tough. But I do. It's going to be impossible not to watch. Anything we didn't cover, Jaden Daniels, congratulations. Yeah. Good. Chargers. And Spencer Rattler, first win. Yeah. Need that. Rattler was 0-10, I believe, as an NFL starter. He gets his first win. He becomes 1-10, taking on the New York football giants. Jackson Dart and the boys look good early. and then the Saints get a big-time win. Congrats to them. And I think we covered everything. Boom. We'll continue digitally where we'll make our picks for tonight's Monday Night Football game, and then we'll be back tomorrow overreacting to everything.
1:53:50Pat McAfee:That's A.J. Hawk. Darius Butler's here. The Talks at Tables here. AP Tone's here. And we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Who knows how long any of this lasts, A.J.? But it's an honor to be a part of. We don't know. Sports are the greatest. Congrats to Gabby. Have an incredible confidence this weekend. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. She was the greatest. Yeah, I'm glad you snuck that in. I forgot about that. That was so sick. I can't believe Herbie could throw it that far. When he came in here, he could barely hit that net. Okay. Still got it. Thank you for mentioning that.
1:54:19There's not a doubt, right? Was anybody that way? I wasn't. I did not think he was made in it. He couldn't throw it? Do you think he couldn't get it there? What do you think? Accuracy? 35 yards in a suit? He's 56 years old, dude. I think he could have done it left-handed. The suit, dude.
1:54:35Pat McAfee:That's what Nick Saban said. Nick Saban, when I got back up there, he goes, I should have had him throw a lefty. And I'm like, 35 yards is a 56-year-old? That's no problem. The ball also has a plastic seal around it. There's a chance that thing slips out of his hand and has a terrible moment. Can you imagine? Just so everybody understands this, Gabby Mathis, this girl, awesome. I mean, I am a huge fan. She's the third girl. I mean, he spun that thing. He did. He really did spin it. she's the third girl that has won the raffle she was there since noon the day before wow okay just trying to uh do her thing she wins the raffle has never kicked anything before okay chemical engineering uh major whatever it is has never kicked anything before she's a senior and she's like oh i want to do it myself i'm sure the people around her whenever she won were like hey just last week guy picked somebody who's a good kicker she said nope i want to do it and i'm like i love that i met her in between commercial breaks and uh i said hello your name's gabby she goes yes i go very nice to meet you have you ever kicked before anything she goes no and i go okay why'd you pick to do it she was like i want i want to do it and i was like that's awesome yeah i absolutely love that i absolutely love it and she was like so joyful the entire time so then we go up on stage and kirk's like what are we how are we looking you know because it was like other side where i meet Kirk was over here, so he didn't see her.
1:55:59Pat McAfee:I was like, girls never kick before. He goes, never kick before. I'm like, never. He goes, why didn't she, could she have picked somebody? I said, she just wants to do it. And he was like, I like that. I'm like, me too. I actually like it mostly because, you know, good chances ain't going in. You know, I have to do that sort of thing. So then we go out there. The scene is electric. I mean, it is an electric scene. Getting there, we had to go pretty far. Couldn't hear everything because of how far away we were, actually, to find it because of how it packed in and everything kind of was. So we get over there.
1:56:30Pat McAfee:She, before this kick, she just was about to just... I love that you're back. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She, like, there was no... I didn't even know she was going to go. She was literally just going to stand there and try to swing at it. So I'm like, yo, you got to do the steps. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You going right now? You about to kick it. Hold on. None of us are ready. We didn't even know you were going to potentially do that. You didn't even take any steps backward. She's like, yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm like, all right. So then Herbie goes, you got to go back here, bro. Come on, we got to take a couple steps here.
1:56:56Pat McAfee:She used to try to give a good attempt at it. And her first attempt, obviously, this one, not good. Okay, not good. Topped it. It was right on line, though. Right on line. It was straight, not good. Whole play starts going one more shot, one more kick or whatever. And she's like, I asked her, do you want to do it? She goes, yeah, I want to do it again. I'm like, I love this girl. Just after what just happened, she didn't want to pick anybody. She could have easily said, like, I'm not. Not embarrassed that she's never kicked. Exactly. She's just like, yeah, I'll do it again. Yeah, maybe the next time.
1:57:27Pat McAfee:It was like her blind optimism was so like, for me, it radiated. Like it was oozing. I'm like, I like to hear this. I appreciate that you exist. So then I was scanning. I'm like, all right, is there anybody around here that looks like they can kick? Like that's literally what I'm doing. Scanning in there. Scanning in there. I'm like, can we pull somebody? And then I'm like, well, we haven't. Who knows? I can pull some. Who knows? Right. Yeah. yeah what person comes out of there sure so in my head i'm like liability can't just pull a random person well gabby's got to sign stuff too right boom the whole thing yes there's a lot of things that go into it all so it's like i just can't pull some random person then herbie's like why don't you kick it and i'm like okay actually i'm in pretty good shape right now maybe i do kick it so you watch my brain like kind of go through like scanning somebody then like do i kick it i got my cowboy boots on there's no grip on the bottom of those no we're on turf can i i was trying to figure out whether or not i could do a no step if i could kick it no step 30 yards and i'm like so i'm judging it i'm like ultimately i'm not fucking making that so then i started looking around and i look at herbie he's like spinning the ball in his hand and i'm like oh boom like in my head you should have seen the celebration that comes about like yes you herbie especially because he's like i'll throw in 200 000 yeah yeah he's like doing the whole thing i'm like All right, Herbie, let's go ahead and do it.
1:58:46Pat McAfee:So in my head, it was not 100 %-er for him to make this. In a suit, not a great throwing ball. He's 56 years old. 35 yards at least this ball has to be hot. And he does it. He could have missed that. That could have slipped. So in my head, it wasn't 100 %-er. But it was certainly at least a way, like, hey, we got a viable shot here. And shout out to Herbie showing up. That was a great throw by Herbie. He's genuinely pumped that he helped Gabby. Oh, yeah. And I think it was a cool moment. But I want to let Gabby know, hey, your mindset is fucking awesome. There needs to be more people like you, Gabby.
1:59:19Pat McAfee:And me and Kirk both felt it, experienced it, and we're lucky to be a part of that whole thing. And her pure joy afterwards is so cool. Like, we need more of those happening. And now, granted, if I would have just done that for$100 ,000, probably the same effect. Yeah. I think you can go down. That's always my thought. Yeah. But this is classic me just being a checkers. Good thumbs up there by Stanford Steve. this is just classic me being a checkers player okay this is just in the moment i just got to get to this spot yeah that is there's no chess being played there it's just like this could be really awkward television right here this could be really bad obviously we never really think about this what are we going to do and then it's like as soon as the idea comes it's like yep fucking king me let's go and then do we have to do 300 000 probably not but i don't think there's a better person on earth for that money to go to so we are pumped for gabby good luck in the future and it's a completely blank slate when we go out there, legitimately, as it's being proven right now.
2:00:16Pat McAfee:Part of what makes it great. Just live TV. I don't know what's coming. I guess in hindsight it is kind of disrespectful, AJ, to a Herbie. I guess he could. Yeah, come on now. Because when you told him, and I saw him kind of, you know, everybody does the little one stretch or the little growing something, and when he did that, I was like, oh, this is probably – I was probably 75-25 that he was going to get it there. In my head, he was going to make it. Yeah, I doubt it. But it wasn't 100 %-er. Like, in my head, not 100%. If he missed it, would you have given him a second throw? No, no, no, no, no.
2:00:46That would have got real loud on me. Wait, didn't Herbie say that if he didn't make it, that Gabby could just take Peter? Like, she just gets a dog? No. Oh. Peter has never. No, I thought that was like, hey, instead of$300 ,000,$500 ,000, you get Peter. He's a great dog, and you can put a saddle on him.
2:01:04Pat McAfee:Peter's making money now, too. Look at Herbie. Yes, he is. He's got ads. Look at that throw. Bang. I'm still impressed by the throw. In the suit. Completed the pass, too. I don't know if the camera picked it up, but I'm pretty sure the other guy, didn't he have a sick one? Yeah, he did. Oh, what? He did. Dude, I need to get the – oh, I haven't seen that. That's a cool thing. I need to shout out Jeff Brown. Does an incredible job with the entire logistics of the raffle and everything like that. There's a new, like, production assistant out there, Tatiana. Got a chance to meet her a couple weeks ago.
2:01:34Pat McAfee:She's new out there. She's helping run the entire – obviously, Herbstreet with the holds. Stanford Steve out there going underneath. He's always, yeah. He'll come up to me afterwards. He'll be like, that one was the closest. It's like, hey, Steve, thanks, buddy, down there. So I appreciate everybody that's part of it. We have the same cameraman, so I need to get his info. He's running all over the place. He's sweating his balls off. Yeah, I bet. He's a worker. Yeah, he is. Was he the one that told you about the high dive? Is it the same one? No, jib operator for DoorDash. Been around for like 20 years with the show.
2:02:06Pat McAfee:I don't really see him because he's over there. He's the one night before at Des's house, like, can go off that high. Nowhere else are you going to be able to go off a high dive. Just want you to know that. Just know where else. The cameraman doesn't have to tell me that. That was really cool of him to be like, been around a long time. I don't know if, and I'm like, do we have a shot of it? He goes, oh, yeah, we got a lot of shots. I mean, have you seen it? I'm like, no. He's like, it's fucking right there. like you are going to be staring at so it's like a good team effort for all these things i'm very appreciate you uh it's very expensive are they the same field goal post because i got a long travel this week yeah oh yeah yeah they are the same field goal post and i'll tell you what i'm excited to get out there yeah okay i am excited to get out there to oregon because it is beautiful once you get there and the people are very enthusiastic and they love ball out there and they'll be out there in pitch black which we are incredibly grateful for It's far, though.
2:03:03Pat McAfee:It's a far trip. We're going to Europe, bro. Yeah. We're going to Europe, AJ. Further almost. It's out there. Yeah, it's a great game. I mean, at least you're going now. I'm not even, yeah. Dude, think about like mid-November going there. At least now it'll still not be freezing cold. Oregon is still an unbelievable team. There are worse times to go to Oregon. I'd be much more tired. You're talking later in the season. Yeah. I'd be more exhausted. Exactly. The morning would be, you know, 20 degrees out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. I'm lucky to be a part of any of this. I just want to let everybody know that I feel that way.
2:03:40Pat McAfee:But whenever Oregon pops up onto the old schedule, there is like a – Come on. We got to go out there. Let's go. We get to go out there. This week is absolutely loaded. Yeah. Loaded. Huge week. So pumped. How was this past? It's like chaos. It actually turned out really well. We talked about how last year there was all those upsets week six. It turned out there was obviously the big one this weekend, Penn State and UCLA was the giant, enormous, huge upset. Obviously, Penn State comes off that loss to Oregon in overtime and has to travel all the way across the country. They run into Nico Iamaliava, who just – he looked good.
2:04:15Their offensive coordinator, Neuheisel's son, I can't remember his name. Jerry. Jerry Neuheisel. He was the coordinator for –
2:04:21Pat McAfee:He's Joey Molinaro. Yeah. He does have that look. 22. Exactly. Like Joey Molinaro doing that one might be – That might be the bread and butter. Joey's pulling for him to be very good. This guy becomes a head coach somewhere in a big spot. Joey's rolling out of bed into this. I mean, legitimately. Four touchdown dogs. Hasn't called plays ever. His life started on Wednesday. Unbelievable. What? Yeah. Wednesday found out he's calling plays. First time ever. His dad. Did you see his dad watching CBS? That was awesome. That was fucking sick. So cool. He played there too, right? Yes, he did. Football is the greatest.
2:04:56They were saying, too, he's never operated the headset. So a bunch of times during the game, he thought he'd be telling Nico a play, and Nico would be like, yeah, I never got to play, so I kind of had to call my own. And that's what he said. He's like, hopefully we'll have all that figured out next week. I'll be talking to the right people. He's talking to the booth.
2:05:10Pat McAfee:Yeah. He was talking to the booth. He was talking to Nico. All right, Nico, here we go. First down, let's make sure we look through this. And so somebody in the booth is like, yo, Jerry, Jerry, no, no. Winning their shit. Beat Penn State. Insanity. I hope he goes on to be multinational championship with a head coach. Me too. I hope so too, especially in the moment. And he talked about his love of UCLA. I don't know if there's – I don't want to get into it. They have an interim head coach who isn't him, so I don't want to start stepping on anybody's shit. But, like, this dude loves UCLA. They carry him off the field.
2:05:40Pat McAfee:He was passionate about UCLA afterwards, about how great the place is. I don't know how many of those people you're going to find right now that want to be a football coach. So on that note, and we're going to get the camera and the security guard out of the – Somebody hit a wall. Yeah, that was Alabama, Georgia, Texas A &M. One of those, it was a red school. It was definitely SEC. That was terrible. Terrible. Head fake. Oklahoma. Maybe it was Oklahoma, maybe. Oh, that's scary. Scary, scary stuff. Penn State, though, losing that game. So, they were ranked, what, second preseason? I think. Yep.
2:06:09Who was number one? Texas. Oh, they lost this weekend, too, to Florida. They beat their ass. Oh, my God.
2:06:15Pat McAfee:That was out of control to watch that. Now, everybody that I was around Friday night, full college football conversation, it felt as old as if it was a matter of fact. It did. It did kind of feel like that. Everybody I was talking to was like, tomorrow, Florida. Really? Yeah, everybody. Legit. That's why if you listen to us make the picks, I'm kind of like, Texas, need them, need them. But everybody we were around was like, Florida is, A, not an easy place to play. B, if they don't put them – like, Florida's defense, good. Like, everybody sees DJ Lagoe have, like, five picks. The defense keeps them in every game.
2:06:52Pat McAfee:Like, Arch is going to have problems. And if Arch can't get going, is Florida going to be able to sneak through here with a win? It's like, yep, they certainly did. And now the conversation about Arch is loud. And, obviously, Napier's got another week to survive. It's certainly good for him. It's like chaos, though. Penn State loses. Texas loses to Florida. of absolute pandemonium happening around Bulls. Yeah, those Florida boys, they fight for Billy Napier. But the game you were at, Bama, Vandy, it was close for a while, and then Bama kind of pulled away late. I thought Ty Simpson played incredible.
2:07:25Vandy played incredible, too. They just had those two red zone turnovers that really cost them. The score was not indicative, I don't think, of what this game was. I think what was the final 30 to something? Bama had a very, very late touchdown to score. But I think Ty Simpson looks really, really good. Yes, score and cover.
2:07:40Pat McAfee:They had a late touchdown to score and cover, so everybody's just going to think that Alabama really dominated. There was a lot of stressful moments in Nick Saban's suite. We were lucky to be there. Nick Saban was honored for going into the College Football Hall of Fame. They gave him a plaque and a whole thing, and the place went crazy. I mean, the pop was rightfully insane. And what I've learned is getting a chance to do Alabama football stuff with Nick Saban is really cool. I would imagine. It's really cool just to be able to walk wherever, talk to whoever, and even get whatever pizza we want delivered to the suite whenever we want.
2:08:11Pat McAfee:But where he's at, everybody knows where his suite is. So anytime anything happens, basically the entire stadium is looking up at him. So Vandy scores first. Big touchdown. Nick Saban stands up. Tucks shirt, still has dress pants on. Turns to the side and just stands like, I don't know where he was going. I honestly still don't think he's gone anywhere. I think he stayed in that spot. Wanted to get up and move, though, because he was so uncomfortable. Just like so uncomfortable. Then he sits back down. He's got Miss Terry to his left. He's got Reese to his right. And then they just kind of settle back in and start watching the game.
2:08:45Pat McAfee:Then something bad happens, penalty or something. Everybody looks back at him for his reaction. He knows sells everything. And then whenever the good stuff start happens, doesn't celebrate. So like bad things happen. We're all like, oh, that's terrible. Good things start happening. We're like, let's go. Nothing. Just we got long games here still. So he is still, I mean, yeah. Locked in. In those games, dude. He was very, very kind to Miss Terry and Nick to take care of us, and hospitality was absurd. But on that note about Vandy, Vandy's a good team. They are. Vandy's a very good team. Diego's a dog.
2:09:19Pat McAfee:Obviously, mad respect to him and everything that they've built over there. But Bama is real. It feels like Bama is real again. They are. And then the team that is definitely real, Miami headed to Florida State, and the defense put the clamps on early. and then Malachi Tony, the freshman wide receiver, just put on an absolute show. That's not him there. That is C.J. Daniels. The celebrations all night were awesome. Here's an interception by Miami, and then the next two touchdowns were by Malachi Tony, the freshman wide receiver for Miami, and Carson Beck looked really good. They look fast. They look strong.
2:09:56Pat McAfee:They look explosive. They look the part. Miami looks the part, and Malachi Tony hadn't scored a touchdown since week one. Who gave me that stat? I think I shot you that one. That was Darius. I sent D-butt. I get the Miami offense film breakdown that I'm going to do for game day. I send it over to D-butt and AQ. Each week I get, like, what my clip is going to be. I send it to D-butt and AQ. This week felt a little bit more personal for Darius. There's a little personal stats. A little personal ideas in there. And big play waiting to happen is what you called Malachi Tony, the rookie freshman over there.
2:10:27Yeah, we all saw him week one against Notre Dame. They even called back probably his best touchdown play with the illegal motion or whatever it was. But, yeah, he is a big play waiting to happen. Reminds me a lot of another Miami legend, our former teammate, T.Y. Hilton. And whenever he gets the ball, whether it's just a quick screen or a deep ball down the field, he can make that type of play. And he does the dirty work, too. He'll get in there a block. You saw on C.J. Daniels' screen that he took to the crib. Tim made a huge block. So, yeah, they are a team that can win in a variety of ways.
2:10:55They can run the ball down your throat. They can air it out. And then on defense, Reuben Bain and Messador, I mean, they are just monsters. So, DBs, if the DBs can show up and continue to make those plays on the back end, this team will be very, very tough to beat. Now, ideally, for Miami Hurricanes fans, we'll have Miami and we'll have Ohio State. And then they'll meet in the national championship. Get back. Revenge. Sweet revenge. Sweet, sweet revenge, AJ. I'm looking forward to it because Ohio State had another, you know, monster blowout as well.
2:11:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, so I actually said a couple times on game day because it was my job to talk about that game. Hey, don't love Minnesota. You said TJ Flex like golf. I appreciate that. That was good. Isn't that right, though? One good shot, yeah. There's like one good thing that happens, and it brings you back for the next year. It's like this could be the big thing. Now, was I saying that strictly because I was to talk about that particular game and what should I say about that particular game other than that? but for Ohio State to just go out and handle business the way they did, I mean, that says a lot about your team.
2:11:59Pat McAfee:Traveled to Washington last year or last week. That's a long trip. You just killed a team that had a 22-home game win streak. You beat their soul out. And then you got Minnesota just waiting for you, kind of looming, lingering. Are you going to go ahead and let this one kind of slip past the goalie? Uh-uh. They bury them, AJ. Number one team in the country still for good reason. Yeah, they're in like a weird spot though, Like where the, you're almost using games as a, you know, an elevated practice for your team to like work on certain things. That's not like a disrespectful thing. Like Minnesota is a good team.
2:12:29They really are. But you have so much talent. I guess when your defense is playing so well, you don't have that as much pressure on your offense. And yeah, I mean, you can't say enough about Matt Patricia and the studs that Ohio State has on defense because they are, they are very fun to watch. Fundamentally sound fast as lightning and super physical.
2:12:45Pat McAfee:They're averaging five and a half points per game going into this game. It's dropped down to five now, I believe, is where it's at. They're giving up only five points per game, not even a touchdown, let alone an extra point. That's what they're happening. And then I rattled off some of the names. This was a Tone Dig special going into game day. He's like, hey, this defense might be best of all time. And then you just think of the names that are still there. Sonny Styles, obviously you've got Caleb Dons and all the boys there. It's just like – it's a hoose. Arbel Reese, number eight, Arbel Reese.
2:13:11There's a guy that keeps showing his closing speed on Twitter, showing clips of him. The guy, not only is he, I think he's like 6 '4", 235, can run like a madman. He's such a good player.
2:13:21Pat McAfee:Sean Perkins, legend at Ohio State. Before first game day, I'm walking onto the stage. I go, hey, what do I, who, just one last thing for me to say up there. I'm always asking the local people, like, hey, what is something? And he said, number eight, Arvel Reese is the one. And I go, okay, and I completely forget about it. I completely forget about it. I think he had five sacks or something that day or four sacks. Jeez. I forget. He had a big night. Yeah, big day. He went like absolutely crazy. And I'm like, oh my God, I could have looked like a genius. Sean Perkins fucking told me this guy. Literally going into this.
2:13:50Pat McAfee:That's the guy. He said that this was, that's literally what he said to me. He was like, because all the local people know more shit than like you're going to be able to find. Like the local, Sean works for the Buckeyes, has for like 30 years. So he loves the team. And he's taking care of us a lot. We love that particular guy. But at all these places, you like run into somebody, that motherfucker's going to have more info on the shit that's going on. if you catch the right person than any of the things you can find on the internet or any of the highlights. It's like, well, actually, this guy, he's the boy of buh-buh-buh who's with buh-buh-buh.
2:14:24Pat McAfee:So he's going to get more opportunities than this guy. This guy, though, has never quit. He's just continued to fight. Those types of things come from the local fans. Sean told me about number eight. He was like, he's the one, and he certainly has been. The big question about the Ohio State defense coming into the year was they lost a ton. They lost all four starting defensive linemen, stuff like that. The coordinator, too. Yeah, and the coordinator. And they're like, oh, they're going to be up. Yes, Arvel Reese, Caden Curry, I think, has five sacks. They just got him waiting in the wings. And Ryan Day, the way he's talking, I like the way he's talking.
2:14:53Pat McAfee:He talked about – and a lot of people are saying it's a new Ryan Day, but he's basically talking about like right now. Think about how you're on those dudes every single day because they are so good and everyone's pumping them up. I bet he is coaching those boys tough. Practice is not easy over there. I assume he's called a lot of Saban dynasty people. Hey, listen, how do I – Kirby. What is the goal? Kirby, Bill, and New England. Well, yeah, I was going to say, Bill and UNC is an absolute – I already did my Collinsworth thing. I don't want to do it to Bill, too. Man, that was just – It was just sad, though, how after you guys talked to him on game day and it's like, okay, here we go, here we go.
2:15:32And then Clemson has like a 75-yard touchdown on the first play. It's just like, oh, boy, here we go again. They really stink. They do. It's so bad. I think he already has more 25-point losses than, like, Mack Brown had in his whole run, which is crazy to think about. But, yeah, I mean. It's everything. We kind of saw that. I mean, at least I saw that with Clemson coming in, one and three.
2:15:56Pat McAfee:Dabo getting his name. Yeah. Yeah. It was almost like a get-right game. I mean, it sucks to see Belichick in that type of. Is there any hope, D-Butt? Did it have any hope? No. Oh. Hold on. I called some source. Says. And because Bill said at the end of the interview with us on game day, he said, we're just trying to get a recruiting class. We haven't even had a recruiting class yet. I think there is a thought that their recruiting class is through the draft is how that's kind of being viewed. Remember, high school is like draft. Free agency is the transfer portal. I think they feel like they got to build culture through draft, kind of is how they're thinking.
2:16:34Pat McAfee:So I think they are very focused on recruiting. And there's a chance that the sales pitch is like, hey, you can be the one that helps us turn this. You can get playing time. So they think they're going to do, I think, this is not directly from horse's mouth, but this is pretty close there. It's like they still very much believe that, yes, it's going to take some time. He even answered to me like, it's a process. It's going to take longer than we thought it was. But I think they're trying to build through recruiting when you're hearing a lot of other people potentially transfer portal stuff. So will it be a viable option?
2:17:03Pat McAfee:We shall see. That's what Clemson was trying to do, right? Yeah. And they get the cream of the crop. So when you're playing, when you're talking, everything you're doing at the college level is recruiting. So, like, that game, they maybe had some big-time recruits. Not anymore. No, yeah, they think they could be the change. Yeah, but I always get worried about the, hey, it's going to be a process. We knew it was going to take time. It's like, well, Bill, you're not 35. You're damn near 75. So, like, I don't think that's what anyone was signing up for. We're like, hey, we knew this was going to take five years.
2:17:37We did, though, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah, but I think there was maybe. Remember we looked at the schedule? We did. You're right. We did. They might win nine games this year.
2:17:46Pat McAfee:Very nice schedule. Not me. Yeah, I think we all did. Are people showing up at the home games? It looked like there was a decent amount of people there. Yeah, we showed up. Not the end. Wow. So empty at the end. Also, they kept running an interview of a student. I don't know if you guys kept reading this. It was hilarious. I did not. What happened? They were interviewing a student going to break, and the student was like, I was here for the TCU game. It's so bad. It's the worst moment I've had. On the stadium? Yeah, they said it's the worst moment I've had on campus and I failed my physics class or something.
2:18:17What? I failed midterms before. Yikes. Hold on, is this the interview right here that we're showing?
2:18:23Pat McAfee:No, this is not it. It was weird. It was on the stadium? No, it was on the broadcast. Yeah, it was a cutaway from the broadcast, probably like eight seconds and then she was like muted for maybe like the last five seconds. There it is, here it is. We found it, Bruce. Is it making moves? TCU was, I went to that game, and that was one of the saddest feelings I've had in university so far. I've failed midterms before, so that's saying something. Oh, boy. Why did you run that? Why did you run that? Holy shit. Who found that? That was weird. Hey, go out and get bad quotes about this thing. Yeah. For real.
2:18:57Pat McAfee:Imagine a producer going, this game might be a blowout. We're going to need shit late. Go get content. to see how people feel. You know who it is. There's a chance. Because, I mean, when Bill was on the top of the mountain, you know, he didn't have the greatest relationship with a lot of media people. So, he's behind the scenes now. And the guy's down. They're going to take that opportunity for sure. Yeah, a lot of opportunities too. Especially the more and more we learn about everything. But, hey, it's a process. Mitchell Rodriguez is pitching the same thing. Okay. Yeah, but I believe that one.
2:19:31Because he's done it before. Yeah, but Rich keeps playing good football teams.
2:19:34Pat McAfee:BYU is a really good football team. They're a good football team. BYU is a really good football team. Utah is a good football team. Ohio University with Navarro playing quarterbacks, good football team. Great football team. Hey, especially Athens, Ohio. That's fucking – Pitt. Pitt's a great football team. We beat them. They won 60-0 this weekend, so yeah, actually. New quarterback. You saw that. Yeah, freshman. That's crazy. For everything that Holstein has done for them, for them to just go to a new quarterback is wild, but I guess that's the modern world. They probably made a lot of problems.
2:20:01I heard a good bit of change as well. I heard he was number one in the country in turnover-worthy plays or something like that.
2:20:07Pat McAfee:Well, I'm sure that's a real stat. Yeah, it's BFF. Which we all know is good. Did you hear it, Connor earlier? And I have so much left to say, but I'm not going to, okay? I'm going to move forward. That's right. And I'm just glad it's out there that the entire, and again, I'm not saying this sarcastically the entire 120 replies to my tweet all said yes we need a change so usually it's like a good you talk about it's like a good sample size and I'm not saying it's a good focus group so right now it's 120 to 0 X does lean a little negative though sometimes there was even a little bit of heat on the so I let coach Saban go last, I was going to walk out right after him.
2:20:59Pat McAfee:I thought that was a bad play. I didn't like that he was going to walk out third or whatever. You built this entire place. But he also couldn't hear anything, so I was yelling for him. The way they have it set up backstage now, too, is a lot of people with a lot of cameras. So as soon as you exit the production, we are in. We are on, which is life. And everything like that. So that type of decision, I should have, I guess, thought ahead and been like, hey, coach, you should go out here last because obviously he doesn't know that. But boy, at this moment, he's walking up there, and all that's going through my head is full panic.
2:21:30Pat McAfee:Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no way am I following. I'm following Nick Saban? No fucking way. In Alabama? That is literally what's going through my head. It's like, no, no, no, I am not following you, brother. There is no chance of that happening. Let me go ahead and get the hell out of the way, basically. And then when he went up there, it was awesome. And I saw him smile and take it in, you know, because I think there was a lot of reminiscing, obviously. And he's like a very much, what's next, what's next? oh a hundred million dollar uh facility we're building for nick's kids to take care of the next generation and everything like that in the city oh this also happened this also happened yeah like he is still giving back and always on like the next thing focus but like what him and miss terry have done to that city and what he has obviously brought to that city was special and uh watching him get that pop at the end was fucking cool man that's like one of those really cool lucky i got goosebumps and i almost started crying watching this place like go crazy for him and him like smile and like wave for it.
2:22:26Pat McAfee:But it's like, yeah, dude, you mean a lot to these motherfuckers. I hope you understand that. And that video of, was that you recording him for Dixieland? Yeah, that was awesome. You think that's the first time that he's ever sung it out loud? Oh, maybe. In Tennessee, too. No, we were there. Yeah, but like that was the first time I've ever seen it because on the sideline he's not singing it. You know, like that's probably like one of the first times where he's actually saying the words. So they say. Oh, he says X words. Yeah, a lot of people love that. I love that he's getting his flowers while, you know.
2:22:54We always say he give people their flowers while they can still smell them. Yeah. And, like, the fact that he is this legend and he's still completely still with it in there. And he's getting all his flowers and all. Not only in Bama, obviously in Bama and the house that he built, but just college football in general. Now being on game day with you guys, like, that kicking off the freaking weekend, it's awesome. And that fucking hallway y 'all were in, too, that road tie. That Friday show. That was sick.
2:23:20Pat McAfee:Just rebuilt that up. Yeah. And once again, they're using money that was brought in by – but Kalen's got his own team there. Yeah. They have their – Ty Simpson. Dope. I talked to Josh, me and Chap. Yep. Great to see him. How was that restaurant? Ramajama? Yeah. Ramajama got good grits around here. Get a little bacon there. Get a little bit of a couple eggs. You know shit. Josh Chapman was amazing. He had a mug. I didn't see anybody else in there with a mug of coffee. I got like a plastic cup. Sure, yeah. Like normal? Like a normal cup of coffee? He had a mug of coffee in there. I think he, oh, with Friday, I'll come here good breakfast and my ladies are Ramajama.
2:23:56Pat McAfee:Josh Chapman, four-time national champion, two-time as a player, two-time as staff slash coach down there. Still with the team, obviously a living legend. But I was asking him while we were at Ramajama about the team, and he talked because he's around them every single day, player development. He was like, Ty Simpson, like, he's got a real leader, man. He thinks very, very highly of who Ty is as not only quarterback, but who he is as a player and person off the field and how he leads. And he said he's got a lot of nick in him. This guy's got a lot to save him. Wow. And then he also has, obviously, Kalen and Grubb with their offense.
2:24:31Pat McAfee:He's got a good handle on the offense as well. And he can move better, I think, than a lot of people initially look at him and think it is. He's a player. Ty Simpson's a real player, and I think if they go, it's going to be because of him, and I think he's the right guy is what everybody's saying. And everyone talks about Ryan Williams, But this year you could argue Jeremy Bernard has been their best receiver. He's scored in damn near every single game. And Isaiah Horton, also number one, he looks the part. He had an early drop stuck with it. He's like, I mean, he is a freak show. They have it all still down there, you know?
2:25:04Pat McAfee:They still have it all. I saw Ty Simpson early in that game look to the sideline and start yelling and hitting his chest, like, hey, let me throw this thing. Basically open it up, let me take over this game. That was awesome to see, honestly. I know I heard you talk about what Chap said about him. That makes me feel much better about him. Because, you know, if you're not around him, you don't know. You just know what you see on TV. But when I see how fire he is and how much of a leader he is, like, yeah, these dudes have a chance. And the way his accuracy is his thing. Like, you start thinking about Sunday with him whenever you're watching him, especially with the way he's firing and everything.
2:25:36Pat McAfee:You start thinking to yourself, like, this is a Sunday-type quarterback right here. And nobody had him on any preseason rankings. Nope. No. Oh, shit. It was a question mark. What? Quarterback? Yeah, because we just didn't know. He's a guy. Good for Alabama, man. Hell yeah. That was fun to be a part of down there. I don't know if you saw me in Turbo. Did you see me in Turbo, AJ? Turbo? I don't know. Yeah, Turbo had this sign. Young boy. Oh, I saw this. Yeah, too. Learn today. That was good. He beat you, huh? Yeah, he was getting after me, too. He said he was going to put me down. And I said, excuse me, I'm going to put you down, actually.
2:26:08Pat McAfee:I'm going to put you down, little Turbo. And, you know, got a chance to run into him afterwards before I head out of there. and, you know, Turbo might have got the best of me this time. You should have chopped him across his chest. Well, yeah, I almost sent his sternum to his spine. I thought about it. But after experiencing the power of Turbo right there in my hand, yeah, he got me right there. It's Turbo. Yeah, it's Turbo football right there. Hurt my elbow still, ding-dong. You need Tommy John maybe. Well, I think it's tennis actually. Could be. I think it's tennis elbow actually. Not the full UCL.
2:26:41Pat McAfee:I got it checked out. I got it checked out by a dog. That's normally what follows an interaction with Turbo arm wrestling. Trip to the doctor. Yeah. And I did it. You arm wrestle Turbo, you might as well book a one-way trip to the doctor and check out what's going on with your elbow. And I did. He said it's tennis elbow. I just have to work on it a little bit. Okay, good. But, you know, I thought the move was you got to – You got to break the wrist. Yeah, you got to break them down. It didn't matter what you did there. I know. I tried. He got in there early, too. He locks me up. He go over the top on you?
2:27:09Pat McAfee:Well, yeah. but he went over top early with his grip. Okay. You know, the grip is a big part of that. He knows what he's doing. Yeah, so Turbo's a vet. Turbo football. I should have brought the strap, actually, and said, hey, I don't like the grip. I don't like the grip. We need neutral grip here as opposed to what you're doing with his strong arm there. But it also could have been because we're doing it on my knee. It could have been. But he got the good grip early. I felt it. Turbo kind of alpha in me quickly. And then off the jump, too, and I was the one doing the countdown. I don't know how he had the snap count so much better than me.
2:27:44Pat McAfee:That thing was early strain. Man, he took it home. That's a lot of conditioning. That's a lot of cardio. I got it. Shout out Turbo. Shout out Turbo. Shout out Turbo. Even had a shoe on tight and he did it to me. Wow. Go Moxie. You said it. Ten years old. Ten years old. That's awesome. How was Theo? Theo Vaughn. I thought he was hilarious. I saw some people obviously utilizing the opportunity to take a shot at Theo, which I love. They do that to me all the time. We put together a good little clip of all of his things. Dale Vaughn. Still bringing it? Still bringing it. Knew what he was talking about.
2:28:16Pat McAfee:He's a weapon. And had something for every game. Then he did get off track one time. What is the game? Yeah. Louisville. And that's the best part. Louisville, Virginia. Got it. How about him one time? I said something to him. I'm going to make my pick right now. Yeah. Hold on. That's okay. You do what you got to do there. Then out of nowhere, Squirrel, Pavia. Yeah. I got Javi Pavia down here. He's going to end up in jail tonight. Free to Pavia's. Yeah, tell us backwards They're not even in jail yet, bro Yeah, but free him I enjoy Theo I enjoy Theo Well,
2:28:53Pat McAfee:I see you again Hopefully not Hey, good burial by Jeff Just in real time That's a good That's a great answer He had a good response Shoot or shoot Yeah, I thought he was great I thought it was a good time. It wasn't as hot as I thought it was going to be. Huge. Which is a big deal. The food, unbelievable. All the food was unbelievable. Saban hosted something at his house. How'd it go? Well, he's got a Ferrari dealership, so he obviously has a Ferrari. This thing, four different patches of America's best. Okay? Of course. The artist formerly known as? Redman. Redman. he had one up underneath like the radio but it's a ferrari so there's not really a lot of space there's a race car it's not really like built like a suv or whatever then he had three different ones in the door were they all were they all the brown flavor or was any greens in there all brown flavored three three in here that's okay one up here then a double styrofoam cup in the middle right clearly spitter yes and it's just like anywhere he reaches in that car there is at least Potch.
2:30:06Pat McAfee:And I thought that was hysterical. And I asked him. I said, you know, how long have you been? He said straight-faced seventh grade. So, I think there's maybe no other moth that has had more America's best in it. Slash. Yeah, he ain't calling it America's best. I know that. He's also confirmed the only human being on the world who probably has just shreds a red man laying around a Ferrari. yeah it's not the low it's not the low ferrari either this is one of the yeah right of course open that door open that door literally looked in there first thing i see is just all the pot all of them just in the door and then i look in there there's one there and i see the styrofoam come i'm like it's a nice car for sure this is fucking awesome that you are still just guy from west virginia here you know just getting what yeah what are we talking about and then he's got one in there at the time.
2:31:03Pat McAfee:He's a legend. Most relatable goat that I've ever encountered, if I had to guess. And he also gave Gumpy a little bit, and Gumpy took up the opportunity at dinner. How long did you have it in? Had to do it. Whole time. Same as coach. As soon as he was done with it, I was done with it. Way to represent. A lot of juice in there. There's a lot of juice. He offered the bag. We were sitting, just finished dinner at the dinner table. I was like, have to do it. He literally pulled it out, and he goes, Gump, you want some? And Gumpy stands up. Yeah. Got those feet dangling. Can I keep this? He looked like a professional, too.
2:31:38Pat McAfee:Looked like a dumpy really. Took me back. Owned the moment. He did. He did great. I fucking busted my phone out as soon as I could. Yeah. It's a moment. It's a moment. All done. I got the entire interact. The handoff. The hand in. Love it. The pack in. The pack this side. The whole thing. Yeah, it was a good moment. The Sabans are good people. They are really good people. it's amazing that they were able to be so successful and still remain the people they work with are such good people too Miss Amy you talk about all the time she's amazing they're surrounded by great people too Miss Katie we hung around this weekend assistant awesome I don't think you can be a turd and hang around look at the coaching tree that this guy has produced he knows how to surround them with good people Agreed.
2:32:27Yeah, he's first class.
2:32:29Pat McAfee:Lucky to be up there with him. Okay, AJ, tonight is a big one for you and me. Okay, I had a rough week last weekend. You won that one. And then this weekend, you're seeing the board in impeccable fashion. Wow. 10-3 against the spread. This isn't just straight up. Now, I'm 9-4, so. That's a pretty good fucking weekend. That's a great week. What you can see there is a one-pick swing. that's funny because there's only one pick left D. Butch we will hopefully have you help us out a little bit here who do you like how do you like it with the Kansas City Chiefs going into Duvall as three and a half point favorites it was Travis Kelsey's birthday yesterday happy birthday Travis happy birthday Travis we learned a lot about Travis and it is Trevor Lawrence's birthday today what happy birthday Trevor Happy birthday, Trev.
2:33:23Pat McAfee:Shite, Matt. Trev. Travis' birthday yesterday. Trevor's birthday today. Life of a showgirl. We learned a lot about Travis and a good thing just a few days ago. So the off-field vibes, I honestly, I think it swings a little bit in Travis' favor. But anytime you got a birthday game, obviously you got to take that into account for Trevor Lawrence. Happy birthday to him. D. Butch, Florida boy. That's huge. Jacksonville, you've had great games against the Jaguars. Yeah. In primetime in Jacksonville. Yes. Now we're back to primetime Jacksonville hosting, who's maybe in the middle of a dynastic run, the Kansas City Chiefs.
2:34:01Pat McAfee:How do you see it going? You know what? The Jags are kind of outperforming where we thought they would be at this point, and I would say the opposite for the Chiefs. We probably expected them to be doing a little bit better. The battle of the birthdays, with Trevor being home, maybe he went out last night, got too boozed up. Trevor Lawrence. He's a father. Travis is on the road. Wifey's doing great things. The girl got a great album out, doing great numbers. I just think the vibes are too high. You got the fucking plate here, too. That was a big thing. That kind of put me over the edge. I got the Chiefs on the road, covering three and a half against the Jags.
2:34:36Pat McAfee:Okay, I believe Taylor Swift's movie about her album was the number one movie of the weekend. Of course. I heard it. It was amazing as well. Wait, I saw... Yeah, Smashing Machine got it more. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no. Good call, actually. Yeah, I saw Smash Machine got like 60 or 70 million. No, it did not. But that's a tough weekend to debut a movie. Taylor Swift decides to come into the movie world the same exact weekend. Not that it's the same demo, but any movie that's going out that weekend is tough. That is very tough. But also, 15 minutes to innovation, piece of art. Let's not worry about what the opening weekend is.
2:35:09Pat McAfee:I agree. I'm pumped to see it. Pumped to see any of it. Also, whenever it starts streaming, we will all watch it. But on that note, Taylor Swift won the music and the movies. Yep. But Travis going to win the football on Monday night. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? Man, I know you most likely will be picking opposite of what I pick. I understand that's how it works. I have a feeling I know where you are leaning, but I like Jacksonville on this one. I really do, man. Give me Jacksonville, what, plus 3.5 tone? Is that the best I can get? Yes, sir. All right. You got Jacksonville plus 3.5.
2:35:40Pat McAfee:I guess I got the Kansas City Chiefs minus 3.5. And then, AJ, do you think it's going to go over or under 45-and-a-half, just in case we're going to break a tie here? Give me the over. I like the over, too. We'll take a tie. We'll take a tie. Are you sure? Because the Jags defense has kind of been holding teams pretty fucking nothing. And Speck, I'll take the under as well. I'll take the under as well. So you got the over in the Jags. I got the under in Kansas City. All right. All right. Both teams are 2-and-2 to the over and under.
2:36:43Pat McAfee:Football! temperature of some of these fan bases, AJ. You know, I want to know what the actual fans feel about their actual programs. You know what I'm saying, AJ? I know exactly what you're saying, yeah. So I put out a bird call. I say, excuse me, could you help me out here? I'd like to learn a little bit about how you feel about your team. It ended up being number one trend on X. We appreciate everybody for having this. And the best ones will make the show. All you got to use is the hashtag. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But? Ty goes through them. Let's go through them. Congrats, Ty. another great week i've heard yeah uh personally i think this is the best week to date okay this is from uh boston connor guy looks like a legend ha sorry buffalo just got a call from the window cleaners they told me yours is closed hashtag i don't want to overreact but you're saying that window's done uh drake may has showed up and it's now his time to get a drafty window seal i mean look i just think there i won't say it's close but it feels as though it is starting to shut But, you know, Drake May is approaching one of those, you know, quarterbacks that could be elite.
2:37:46I don't know if he is yet. I think Josh Allen has a lot to do with, you know, that. Shit, I forgot to pull up the freaking Jose Cuervo before this started. But, no, it just seems as though Drake May is on that kind of trajectory. Like, Josh Allen, as unbelievable as he is, there really isn't a comparison between his second year and Drake May's second year. Drake May is, like, very far along, it feels like, already and it's really all about I'm going to be honest. I don't know if you saw the after reaction to the 52-yarder, but Drake May pops up from the bench. He's so pumped. He's literally going over to Vrabel to give him a hug.
2:38:30Yeah, right here. You can see Drake basically just stopping his steps because Vrabel tells him, hey, still 13 seconds left right here. Yeah, just stop, Drake. Just stop, Drake. And that's exactly what it's all about. Like, our culture wasn't that, and now it's coming back. And the Bills window wasn't closed, but the fact that they didn't go to a Super Bowl in six years when the division was just a bunch of pieces of shit, boy, oh, boy. That's going to be a tough pill to swallow for Buffalo.
2:38:59Pat McAfee:Big win for the New England Patriots. And Clyde Christensen, former quarterback coach of mine, was with Drake May in his final year down in North Carolina, which was actually his redshirt sophomore season at North Carolina. And Clyde Christensen said, this guy's got a lot of paint in him, right? But much more athletic. I mean, much more athletic. This throw. He said, this is the guy. D, but why is this the one that you need to run on repeat to show people that Drake May's a dude? I mean, just when you talk about a handful of quarterbacks, we talk about Lamar Jackson, we talk about Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes.
2:39:31Obviously, there's only Justin Herbert, a handful of quarterbacks that can make this type of throw on the run, on the sideline. Unbelievable. And you see him do this kind of time and time again. Yes. And for him to be where he is in just his second year. I know Conman didn't give a lot of credit to Josh McDaniels, but I will give a ton of credit to Josh McDaniels. Because if you watch the tape throughout the year, for him to be leading the league in completion percentage, you didn't expect that for Drake May coming out. You expect a lot of people compared him to Josh Allen. I don't know if you guys remember when this draft and it was one, two, three at the top.
2:40:03I said, hey, this would be my guy that I would take one. Caleb, I think he will be great. You golfed with him. Yeah, that's good. T-Bud knew. And Clyde. T-Bud knew.
2:40:12Pat McAfee:And what Clyde said. I mean, you said the family. You like the family. I like – it's not just the quarterback. You know this is where everybody – AJ, everybody knows this. It's not just the players. It's about the people around him as well. You could tell he was a humble guy. He was a guy that was always kept in check. He was the younger brother who got beat up on. and kind of an all-shucks young kid, and you just see him growing up, and I think that does have a lot to do with, obviously, Mike Vrabel, but the coaches around him, Stephon Diggs, I think he's been a great teammate as well. So, yeah, I think the trajectory is definitely up.
2:40:41And Caleb and Jaden are obviously very good talents as well.
2:40:44Pat McAfee:We'll see. With Caleb, he looked great, could continue, we shall see. Jaden, obviously a guy. D-Bud said, hey, did you see that throw last night? It's the one. And it was like five different throws from Drake May pop in our mind. and that's like this dude's making massive plays even last year whenever they sucked connor was like we got a quarterback our team stinks but we got a quarterback special time for new england again it feels like with vrabes at the helm aj there is there's another throw that they were i believe maybe midway halfway through the third quarter they're backed up third and seven drake may gets flushed from the pocket completes the ball for a first down to digs on the sideline i'm like all i think they were up by three maybe up 13 10 at the time but just like as far as flipping field position, keeping the ball, things like that.
2:41:28Drake seems to come up with those big plays. How many times do we talk about quarterbacks where you're like, there's going to be a couple of times, two, three, four times in this game when they need to convert a big third-down conversion, and Drake seems to be on fire with those right now.
2:41:41Pat McAfee:Stefan Diggs becomes the first wide receiver since Julian Edelman in 2019 to have back-to-back 100-yard receiving days. Remember, there was a time where the wide receivers didn't even touch the ball in New England. Six, seven, eight straight week time where the wide receivers didn't even get the rock and now it feels like they're special on offense we assume defense is going to be good yeah they're actually i believe statistically now one one two or three as far as total yardage james cook um has been over 100 he had less than 50 yards and then josh allen obviously we forced him to throw an interception which drake made it not and then we forced two fumbles i mean it's one of those things where like the team is now all out there there's no there's no like lingering training camp stuff.
2:42:23Gonzalez is out there. And the biggest thing, I mean, you can talk about the five-play, 74-yard touchdown drive to answer after the Bills come out at halftime and walk down the field and score. That was huge. Two minutes left. 20-20. Game on the line. What happens? Like, that's when you find out if you have a quarterback or not, and we won, bitch. We got a guy.
2:42:47Pat McAfee:We got a guy and he makes a huge throw. Everybody's talking about that hole-shot throw being the throw. I watched Teddy Bruschi freak out this morning. We got a guy, we got a guy, we got a guy. In the biggest moment, hardest defense, he hits the hardest throw in a huge situation on the road. And then your kicker hits this 52-yarder. That thing hits the top of the net. That just hit the net up there. Yeah, that ball, Borreales out of Miami, his older brother kicked at Miami before him. And then now he's up there in New England. He absolutely destroys that football. Outside. Dead center. Outside.
2:43:21Pat McAfee:You want to talk about having a clear mind. Rookie. First time in this moment, obviously, with a massive AFC East division rival, Josh Allen, MVP on the other side. Sunday night football. He's got eye black on, and he is completely clear-minded. Love everything about it. Congrats to the Patriots. Let's go to the next one here. Let's stay in the AFC East. This is from Gumby. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But? That was the worst loss of the Mike McDaniel era, and there's been some bad ones. Okay? Nothing will change because Stephen Ross doesn't care enough to get rid of Chris Greer. This muppet.
2:43:56Pat McAfee:These knobs. Obviously, the defense can't stop the run, but they did force two turnovers. An offensive-minded coach with a QB on a$212 million contract couldn't move the ball in five straight drives after going up 17-0. They'll tell you this team is going to figure it out, but they won't. We're four years into this. And obviously, incredible Grand Theft Auto. Now, Gums, yesterday you were pretty bummed out. I did see that. I did see your little bummed out because you guys were doing it. You guys were doing it. So confident in it early. He was having a great time in the suite. Wow. 17-0. It was over.
2:44:34It was 17-0. We forced him to fourth and five in the fucking second quarter. The game was over. Five straight punts. You know how hard that is when you're up 17-0 on a team and your quarterback's getting$212 million? I understand the defense stinks. We all knew the defense was going to stink. They're not getting paid. We got an offensive-minded coach. It just can't happen, and it's going to continue to happen. McDaniel's not going anywhere. Tua's not going anywhere. Just run it back next year.
2:45:03Pat McAfee:Xavier Leggett became a guy yesterday for the Carolina Panthers, D-Bugger. Honestly, I know. And Bryce Young has a monumental comeback under there. 17 points is nothing to sneeze at. I couldn't believe it happened, and it was absolute chaos yesterday across the NFL, but I couldn't believe that one. You got Dowdell. That's going to happen. That shouldn't happen. 200 yards. And it's happened to me. We had Jonah Gray who came out of them. What's his name? Dowdell? Rico Dowdell. Rico Dowdell. That's the cowboy, former cowboy, right? Yes, yes. Okay, I remember Duke. But, yeah, you can't give up 200 fucking yards on the ground to one guy.
2:45:37You're number five. You definitely can't give up a 17-point lead to all the points that Gump made. They will still be there. They'll run it back, not only with Mike, not only with Tua. Chris Greer will be there calling the shots as well. But, yeah, this actually – it's really, really, really stomped.
2:45:53Pat McAfee:A lot of hope and then absolutely nothing. It's kind of like what a Miami Dolphins fan's entire season is like just in one game. Yeah, certainly. So, good for you guys getting a chance to experience a year's worth of stuff and emotions in one particular ball game against Carolina Panthers. But, silver lining, we are the only undefeated team in history. 1972 Dolphins. Hell yeah. Thank you, Don Shula. Take the tractor another round. Shout out to Mercury Morris. Shout out to the Eagles and Bills. Does he got a grandson in the league? I'm not sure. Shula? Oh. I'm not sure. Chris Shula. Oh, your grandson's the DC of the Rams.
2:46:27Pat McAfee:Bring him home. That's what has to happen here. That's what has to happen. Oh, that's what you want as the next head coach? Yeah. He better have as cool a shoes as McDaniel has. Did you see those little tags, AJ? What a flippy tag is. Yeah. That would be very annoying, I feel like. I would rip that thing off, especially after a loss. Especially if you're not wearing full-size pants. They aren't full-size. They're just fashionable. Just coach, man. Just put a drive together. We're up 17-0 with fucking Waddle and Waller and Tua and HN and Ollie Gordon. You have all the weapons of the world, man.
2:47:0117-0 to the Panthers and you lose? That's fucking atrocious. But the shoes looked cool. They did. And in 1972, undefeated champ. Yeah.
2:47:16Pat McAfee:Only ones ever, dude. It was awesome, too. It was like a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode. That video, right before you see McDaniels, you hear someone tip over like a dumpster or something. Someone's so pissed. And then him just walking. You just hear the little flaps of the tags on his shoes. Oh, man. What was that thing? What was that thing when you were growing up? It was like the skip step. You remember that? Oh, yeah. Hop skip or whatever. You would have to hop. He would jump on the other. It's like he was doing that with his tag. He was like, he was throwing that thing. Did you not see the way he was walking?
2:47:47Pat McAfee:That thing was moving. Oh, no, I agree. I see the visual because I used to try to do that little skip thing too when I was young and see how many could count. But, yeah, I guess once you're losing and once you realize you lose this game, that thing in your brain, how would you not pay attention to it? I got this stupid tag hanging off my shoes right now. Everything bothers you. Somebody pull these pants down, I guess. You should have used that one. Hey, good luck, bro. Pull it for you. Should have used that screenshot of him walking instead of the GTA one. That make it just replace that whole fucking thing.
2:48:15Ah, shit. Here we go again. Let's go to our next overreaction.
2:48:20Pat McAfee:This one's from John Minute Dacus, also known as John Minute Donkus, which is also known as Jimmy's from Jimmy's Famous Seafood, also known as the ones who had the parade for those cicadas that came out of the earth. Yep. Remember they had a cicada parade? They embedded COVID too, right? There's a chance it was founded at one of their festivals. They also host the Tail Goat, where they raise a bunch of money before Baltimore Ravens game. They also have golf outings every single year, I think raising millions of dollars for their community. They have the greatest crab cakes that I've ever had. Their food is impeccable.
2:48:51Pat McAfee:They're an American dream story, this guy. But also, can't get too close to them. They'll celebrate cicadas. That's right. They'll do the code. Yeah, they always invite us to Tail Goat. I say, I spit on your tailgate. you shouldn't say that that's what i do they're pretty rooted with the cicada thing i didn't like that because those cicadas were keeping us up do you remember that oh yeah i do not so loud these fucking cicadas in our earth in indianapolis and i think a lot of places for 20 some years and then all of a sudden something happened and they said yup now's the time and they came out and these fuckers had a lot to say they were saving everything for 25 years and they were just out there.
2:49:32Pat McAfee:It was a buzz. It was a constant white noise in Indiana for, I don't know, maybe three weeks, four weeks. Middle of the night, everything? All day, all night. Just signed. And then they all just died. It was like, thank God. What did these guys have to do with that? They had a cicada parade. They had a cicada parade. I agree with everything you just said. We spits on their tailgoats. Now, on that note, I don't think they actually had a cicada parade. I think we made that up. No, they had a graphic for it, for sure. Sure, I don't know if they're actually celebrating it, but they definitely made mention of it.
2:50:04Pat McAfee:If you're in Baltimore, you need to go to their place. They've got a great bakery, too. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But? I'm wondering which brand of bleach tastes the best thanks to the 2025 Ravens. Jeez, you've got so much good food over there. Don't be trying to find different flavors of bleach. Blorox, John. That's a Steelers fan. I didn't know that was coming from you. I thought maybe Gumpy might toss some things out. Oh, let me tell you, it's been since 72 or whatever. But on that note, Ravens fans, that's a tough spot to be in. But, I mean, you're top all of your stars. Hey, who's paid money?
2:50:39Pat McAfee:You're good players. All of them out. See you. Don't have them. Good luck out there. And you're not playing your best. So, good luck. Go out there. Do your thing. And they're not. And Houston Texans, I think, are thanking the Ravens for this opportunity to showcase what they are, who they are, not only to the league, but to themselves. but this Ravens team's got to get it figured out. Schefter in the first hour basically said, look for Lamar, probably two more weeks of rest here because there's a bye coming up. Now, he didn't say that that was a definite, but he was just kind of forecasting, and we know a lot of people in that building now.
2:51:12Pat McAfee:Good luck. That hasn't been fun. Good luck. Oh, there is a guy in there who used to DC them to top five defenses just sitting waiting in the wings to take over this defense, isn't he? Let's get to another overreaction, shall we? Who's calling now? He's pretty Italian there. This one's from Lewis Roberts at Buddy Loveless. If you know, you know. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But Nick Sirianni might be the first Super Bowl winning coach ever that no one can tell you exactly what he does. Doesn't run defense. Won two Super Bowls without him calling the offense. What does he do is a question from that John Lewis Roberts.
2:51:51Pat McAfee:Listen up, Light Switch. I think he's a CEO. I think he's a businessman. I think he's maybe trading a little Bitcoin, maybe a little crypto on his side. Yeah, definitely mining. Always working, definitely mining. Big Dom for sure, no matter what. Definitely out there working, doing his thing. He's a CEO type head coach, AJ. I don't know if anybody recognizes him as such, though. Why not, though? There's plenty of coaches like that that don't call the offense or defense. I think it's because mostly he talks shit pretty loudly. Sounds like a doofus from time to time. Sometimes he'll say some things, yeah.
2:52:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, so I think people are like, so this guy's overseeing Vic Fangio? Yeah. Okay. And especially if it doesn't go well, you lose a game first time, long time. Right. You lose a game. Everybody's like, exactly, just as we said, this guy, and I assume it's only going to get louder for Nick Sirianni. He knows that, though. He's in the kitchen. But I do appreciate diehard Eagles fans there going, what's this guy doing? I think some of these Eagles fans, too, thought to themselves, GM doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing accounting. Yeah, exactly. Wasn't that said by some people? I've heard that before.
2:52:54And Milata. This guy's a fucking rugby player. Was that coming from the same account? It was, I believe. I think it was coming from the same account. Was there a lot of Sirianni, or was it for... No, mostly Kevin Petulo. People have... They've fucking had it with this guy. Sankong got six carries, is that right? Yeah.
2:53:10Pat McAfee:That can't happen. Buddy, love less. It was great to see you in there, bud. All right, let's go to the next one, shall we? This is from Max at MaxGill3. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but... The coach are the best football team in the league. Not even the Jagoss in the media that daily crank it to the Chiefs, Bills, Eagles, etc. Can deny that. The coach are an unstoppable freight train of a team. Next stop, Super Bowl. That one. All aboard. Amen, Max. Nothing more needs to be said. Or the real deal. It's not a fun story for people to tell. Because it's Indianapolis. Maybe a little smaller market.
2:53:43Pat McAfee:Going into the year, the fan poll on The Athletic, which is the super active people on the internet, had 96 % or something like 94 % negative thoughts on how the season was going to go. Danny Dimes comes in here and wins the job. Yeah, right. They're going to be nothing. Yeah, right. We're something. And it's been since week one here. Danny Dimes is different. The vibe of the team is different. Tyler Warren is different. That defense, we load it up. Yep. We got real playmakers that are making players for us. And Lou Anarumo's defense is perfect for us. It is our time. It feels like it every time we're in there.
2:54:14Pat McAfee:Now, do I have a couple jack and dice? Maybe. Uh-huh. kind of boost that morale in that field? Certainly. There's a lot of celebrating happening with the Colts on offense, defense, and special teams. Going to have to find a kicker, Spencer. We hope you're okay. But I'm a believer after watching them. Yeah, and the expectations are huge. So coming into the season as a Dolphin fan, expecting them probably suck. Coming into the season as a Raven fan, probably expecting a Super Bowl run. Coming into the season as a Colts fan, I just think you want it to look somewhat decent, maybe make the playoffs.
2:54:42I don't think anybody saw this coming. It should be 5-0 if we don't beat ourselves against the Los Angeles Rams, who is a very good football team. So, yeah. Well, got to play by the rules. Yeah, play by the rules. And that's a tough Denver Broncos team. They just beat an undefeated Eagles team. So, that's a huge win. So, yeah, I think we look better than expected on all cylinders. Obviously got to figure out the kicking situation. That will come into effect at some point. But, yeah, all arrows are pointing up right now with the Colts. Well, and you mentioned, too, like, yeah, for, you know, on a national stage, The Colts might not be a great story because of all the other Mahomes and everything like that.
2:55:19But think about this. I mean, there's a chance the clocks get turned back here, and it's Colts-Patriots in the playoffs. And that's kind of a nostalgic game. And then you think about it on the other side. It's like Lions-Packers is a very, very viable option in the divisional or even the NFC championship. There are – I still want to see Josh Allen in the playoffs. I definitely want to see – actually, I need to see Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. I feel like they're more of the Rams last year than the Niners. But it is one of those things where as the season goes on, are the Bengals, if they continue to crash, are they going to ship T.
2:55:58Higgins or Trey Hendrickson or both out of town because it didn't work. They need to pay defensive and offensive linemen. They don't have anybody.
2:56:05Pat McAfee:And to go back to circle back to your first point about the Colts there, I think fans don't give Colts the credit at this point. You know, Colts get a win and fans of the other team are like, what? We're losing to the Colts? Yeah, fucking right. I don't think that's how this is going to go this year. Which leads to this one. This is from Charles Nation here. At CNation knows, hashtag I don't want to overreact, but whoever thought Pete Carroll and Gino were the rejuvenation Vegas needed deserves a roundhouse kick to the fucking head. Pat's win was a fluke and his Colts team just dressed us down so bad they should be charged with elder abuse.
2:56:38Pat McAfee:Hey, Mark, how many more dumbass losses like this before you wipe off the Klon makeup? Bring Gruden back and overhaul this dumpster fire. We're in the first year of this. They suck. Tom Brady's making all these decisions. Yeah, he was. Part of the problem. Allegedly, potentially. We don't know it now at this point. But the Raiders lost to a great Colts team in a tough environment, 10 a.m. local time. And these people are crushing them, AJ. They did. Maybe the Raiders aren't as bad as people may think, but maybe they are just as bad or worse. I don't know. I can't really tell, but I think the Colts are in a great spot, though.
2:57:15Just keep flying under the radar, go dominate. These aren't fluke wins. They are playing great. I believe Fitzy said fit in timing when it comes to quarterback play, and that's where Danny Dimes is right now. It feels like everything is kind of timed up for the right reason. He's around the right players, the right coaches, and he is slinging it. If they stay healthy, the Colts are absolutely a force to be reckoned with. Yeah, the eye test is real. It's like you watch them, and even some of the really good teams, we just saw it happen with the Bills and the Saints. The Bills played with their food a little bit early on here.
2:57:44The Colts have raised their play to play with good teams, and they've beat the shit out of the bad teams, which is like if you're a really good team, that's what you do. This game should have never been close, and it wasn't. The Raiders went right down, kick a field goal on the first drive, and then the Colts were like, all right, now let's go beat the fuck out of them. And they did. Big.
2:58:05Pat McAfee:Like, bad. We're a big team, an athletic team, a fast team. Physical. And Danny Dimes is always in control of the offense, which I think is all we ever needed, which is crazy to think about. We needed somebody that just knew what the fuck they were doing in the system, which is why Gardner had success. And then now, with what Gardner was able to do, Danny Dimes can do that. And he can move. And, and, and it's like perfect for us. You mentioned it in the first hour to Fitz too. It's like the incompletion where it's like he, you know, he missed him, but he threw it out of bounds. Like in years past when he's with the Giants, like he throws that too far inside and it gets picked off.
2:58:43Like even like when he's not completing passes, he's not putting the ball in harm's way. Like there's not even, it used to be every time he dropped back with the Giants, it's like he's going to get blindsided and there's going to be a sack fumble. There hasn't been like one of those this year. Yeah, and on the flip side, who was the person who put the tweet, the Raiders? CNN Nation. Okay, yeah, I was a part of the problem. I thought Pete Carroll, Spytek, Tom Brady, Geno even moving over fresh start. Give us time. Give us some time. They got Brock Bowers. They got Max Crosby. Went and drafted Gentee.
2:59:17So I'm like, okay, they might have some here. Maybe a playoff berth. I didn't expect a Super Bowl run here, but I definitely did not expect them to stink this bad. Turns out O-line, D-line matters. O-line, D-line matters. Max Crossby looks so cool. He's so cool. He's so good. But, I mean, everything else straight to the shit. Geno looks terrible. Is he leading the league or top of the league? He's got eight or nine. Geno. Which is unlike Geno to throw in receptions. What's that? Well, the thing is, after week one, the Patriots lost to the Raiders. And it was definitely a great game by Geno. But I remember seeing Quincy Avery and a bunch of guys saying, real hoopers know Geno Smith's great.
2:59:53But I'd argue real hoopers know Geno Smith will throw for 350 or 400 once in a season and then win seven games.
3:00:00Pat McAfee:Whoa. That's what he said. I'm on offense at Seattle a couple years ago. Now, on that note, he has been turning the ball over. And Carly Ursa, no. AJ, did you hear that? I did. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. You could say you told the room before the game? Carly Ursa. It was awesome. Carly Ursa. Literally, I have a great chat with her. It was so cool of her and so nice of her. And I think, I don't know, it was nice for me to find out what the hell she was doing. but I think she probably wanted, like, also, hey, I'm just charting plays here. Just charting plays here. And she talked about the difference between Lou Ann Arumbo's defense and defense of years past, about how many more options there are.
3:00:33Pat McAfee:Like, hey, the players got more options, so whenever a play is called in there, it's not just over. Like, hey, we got adjustments that can be made. Like, we got a lot, and the defense is obviously thriving off that. And then she goes, we're thinking with the way Geno comes out, we're in a good spot with who we have to get some turner. We should get some interceptions. she said that we should get a we didn't get any last week we need those we should get a couple so i literally as soon as she leaves i go hey she just said that we should get a couple picks that's awesome that she's that deep into this entire thing and then it happened like deflection in the red zone yeah deflection interception it's like holy shit carly ursay's got a goddamn doppler radar out there she yeah but she amazing like what she's learning what she's doing down there i think is very beneficial you know and she said like uh we're gonna be hiring people here for a long time.
3:01:20Pat McAfee:I need to know who's full of shit. I appreciate them going all in. Yes. And also staying out of the way too. But also providing wherever the fuck you need. We paid a lot of money this offseason. We brought in a lot of people on the defensive side. Very well spent. Did she hit her spree game? I didn't see him. I don't know. Somewhere. We won. She definitely did. She had these sweet boots on. Boot shoes on. She had these boots. It was kicking the stigma today. So she had these green, blue, and white boots on. Shoe, boot type things. She's got to be able to be mobile down there. I can't wait to see her.
3:02:00Pat McAfee:Oh, Holly Rowe. Play off a cut block. Yeah, someone coming on the sidelines. Yeah, it's going to happen. Very athletic. These shoes, though, had big pad on the bottom. Somebody came jamming open a door. She's standing right there. Enough room for that thing to gain a little momentum. Sure. and like I see in my head oh my god oh my god owner's about to get hit with door shoe stops it no problem at all she goes oh I'm sorry she says she's in the way it's like no Carly all these fuckers are myself included we are all in your way right now it's we're in a good spot the Colts are in a really good spot from top down very lucky to be there let's go to Eric Fletcher at Fletch274 hashtag I don't want to overreact but I swear on everything fucking holy if James Franklin is still in that office of his this friday i may have to just transfer out of this school yes i can speak for 99.9 percent of the student body here we're bummed out we are bummed out here i'm done with it i speak for 99.9 percent there's 0.01 percent somewhere uh-huh but we're bummed out this is expectations conversations we literally just had it with the colts whenever you're expected to be great especially with what the year you had and then you know your entire university is going in you know they're spending money.
3:03:14Pat McAfee:They're important positions. You still got people. Everybody's expecting the year to be different, and then they lose to Oregon. Penn State fans knew that was going to happen. That's what they'll say. They were optimistic, hopefully, but they were cautiously optimistic throughout it all. Whenever they lose to Oregon, they go, that's what we do. Then they go to UCLA. Nobody's even thinking about the game. Staters. We beat UCLA, obviously. We still got everything in front of us here. Still got everything in front of us. That game starts going away. Penn State people are like, are you fucking Like, you're getting me right now?
3:03:43Pat McAfee:UCLA, all we've heard is they can't sell any tickets and they're a laughingstock. Remember, Nico Iomaleava, worst transfer in the history of transfers since the transfer portal was open. This guy going to UCLA to play in front of nobody for a terrible football team. That was the narrative about UCLA. Need to get that jib away from that sideline. And also, security guy, we need you to be able to do what Carly Ursa is about to do in there. Happy to see you're okay, seemingly. But that's a huge, huge loss for the fans because what they think of UCLA is ass cheeks. And they were. Yeah. So whenever you lose to an ass cheeks team, the natural reaction is we're actually the asshole here.
3:04:21Pat McAfee:Yeah. You know. It's worse. That is what they think. And that's where Penn State's at right now. That's where they're at. And that's where they're going to be. And I think that's a tough loss for them at the end of the season to have any convo, AJ. Legit. Yeah. You can't let one loss bleed into another game. I know there was a big – the Oregon game was – yeah, like you said, maybe they wanted to win, but they didn't fully expect to win that one. I guess fans, I don't know. They were hoping that they would. But for that, it's a tough deal flying across the country and all that. But, yeah, you can't let that happen.
3:04:51Penn State's – I mean, they were a couple plays away from the national championship last year. That's the standard now. In fact, you have two losses already, and you have some tough games on the schedule looking forward. It's not great for them.
3:05:03Pat McAfee:They're going to go to Iowa, brother, don't they? Oh, yeah. And then they got Ohio State. Yep. Then they got – I was looking at this. IU's on the schedule as well, I believe. Two. They got a lot of games. They might lose four games now. Like four shoots. I don't know how – do you just make Jim Knowles the head coach just because he's the highest paid DC and maybe he would be a good head coach for them? With how big their operation is. They got 70 people working in that building. I mean, just moving on from a head coach I think is a massive – I don't want to say massive undertaking, but it is a...
3:05:37Pat McAfee:With their operation that they have up there, that would be a huge move. Everybody wants to do it, obviously, and James Franklin's had a lot of success up there, but he's also been there a long time, and they haven't had as much success as, obviously, Ohio State has, Michigan has. Fuck, Oregon came in. Yeah, when's their last Big Ten championship? Has he ever won the Big Ten championship? No. Ohio State, Michigan, brother. So when we say he's had a lot of success, that's just a lie. He hasn't actually. Oh, yeah. They're ranked number two in a country. I mean, they get 10 wins a year. Yeah, that's sweet, too.
3:06:08But, like, the Panthers started 3-0 when Sam Darnold was the quarterback. Like, I'd want Penn State to be good because that atmosphere is so awesome.
3:06:14Pat McAfee:And they're in the semifinals last year in the National Championship. For sure. That's fucking success. They routinely beat the teams they should beat, and they can't beat the teams that people expect them to beat. And they routinely lose to the teams that they do. And now UCLA. Yeah. Beat them. If UCLA wasn't 0-4. Remember when they went to USC last year? They do struggle out there. Actually, Tyler Warren made that absurd catch to beat USC. They have problems in California, and that does make sense. It's just like, dude, you can't lose. If it went Oregon, Ohio State, and they lost those back-to-back, fine.
3:06:51But you can't lose to Oregon and then come out and lay an egg against a kid who actually just graduated high school. I don't know if this guy even went to college. I'm dead serious. Yeah, yeah, but allegedly, I'm just saying. He's 33 years old. It's a bad look for the highest paid defensive coordinator, a guy, a head coach that had his quarterback, his two best players, or running backs rather, five-star wide receiver that they probably played$2 million, two of their best defensive linemen.
3:07:20Pat McAfee:What you just mentioned right there is the biggest conversation. They are all in. Yes. So, like, when you're at a place that's all in. The donors are not going to be. Yeah. Dude, yeah. There's no. Yes, that is it. Don't lose to UCLA? I'm paying how much to who? We're paying how much? And we're losing to UCLA? I don't know. There's still time. They can beat Ohio State. They have to. And then go to playoffs if they do that. If they were able to do that, they would be able to have the conversation at the end. Can't lose again. Nope. Hey, still all there in front of you. Yeah. James knows it. Let's go to Joey Kennedy, the fourth.
3:07:56Pat McAfee:There's been three others. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But. Michael Bidwell should move the team to Europe. Give the Arizona market whatever expansion drivel the league comes out with next. Pretty good. Cannot be worse than whatever the hell I witnessed in Glendale yesterday. Embarrassed to be born in this state after that. Joey, Fitz said the same thing. It's the worst loss he's ever seen. Now, AJ, we haven't got your take on that. I think that was a touchdown. I think he still had control of the football while they broke the goal line. but there was no definitive angle, I guess, which once again, that's a conversation to be had.
3:08:31Pat McAfee:Why is there no definitive angle? We should have one of those. And then also everybody around football said, yeah, we don't care that they didn't rule it a touchdown. Like you shouldn't have done this. So that's kind of how our emotions are about it. Like right there, does he not have that in his fingers? This angle is the only one that makes it look like to me he didn't score. Did not score? No, he didn't. Because he's losing it before. Yeah, but what if he's in his fingertips? Because when you flip that thing, you're doing this. You're going like this. You're going bang. And then you're going, boom.
3:09:02Pat McAfee:Is this still in your – No. Is that possession right there? That's not possession probably. Yeah, I don't think that's considered possession. If I'm about to throw that thing? No. That's just like A.D. Mitchell. What do they say? Can you get possession by the tip? Can you just hold the tip and have possession? That's what I'm saying. Like if I – I'm intrigued. That is interesting. But then you have to assuming that he's purposely doing that and he's not losing it like A.D. Mitchell did. Yeah. A.D. Mitchell slips. Yeah. So it becomes like a judgment call, right? Yeah, and in that situation. It's completely avoidable.
3:09:32I think that's the biggest problem people have.
3:09:34Pat McAfee:That's what everybody says. Who cares if it was? You shouldn't have done it. And then the football gods. And then the football gods punished them. I mean, the kick-dee-whoop-dee-doo touchdown was just outrageous. Just absolutely outrageous. And that only happens if you do something to really upset the gods up there. Snap drilling Kyler in the helmet. Gods, football gods. Yeah. Everything you can think of. Gannon hat going sideways after chewing a guy out. I mean, that's a touchdown. I don't think I've ever seen a play look that ridiculous. That bad. I'm saying on the National Football League field.
3:10:05Pat McAfee:I'm saying like youth, you think? I don't know if that even happens in high school. I mean, yeah. That's got Max and Red all over it. There you go. There it is. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? It's from Evan Swan at Oswan21. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. You should never, ever poke the bear. Because that bear always comes back for seconds. Go Bucs. Baker for MVP. Igbuka for Rookie of the Year. And then here's the bear being poked by the fans in Seattle. You have a real fucking car to have that. You're a real fucking asshole. You're not getting ready for that. How are you?
3:10:45How are you? How are you doing? How are you? You're a TV man. You're a fucking asshole. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
3:10:57You still suck. You still suck. I love everything about it.
3:11:03Pat McAfee:Everything about it. I love that Baker remembered on the way out. You're the one. You're the one. And Baker's one of those guys. Like, I think there's a chance that teams should be telling their fans beforehand, hey, we don't do it to Baker. Like, that actually helps him. You are hurting our team whenever you wake this guy up. There's obviously a few people throughout history that we know if you poke the bear, they are going to kill you. Baker's one of them. I think he has proven that time and time again. All the way back to college, remember the guy wouldn't shake his hand. Kansas. Kansas, okay, that's what we're going to do right now.
3:11:35Pat McAfee:That is literally what he thrives off of. And he put on a show yesterday. Not that Seattle didn't, but if I'm the Seahawks, I'm asking that guy, was it worth it? Was it worth it to do this? because he's literally one of them, AJ. That is who Baker is and always has been, it seems like. That's why we love him, I think. And that's my favorite part of all of it, obviously, is after the game when he knows. Like, you know, as he's jogging in, he's like, I cannot wait. Like, I'm going to let this guy know that I still remember him. But, yeah, like, it's like, haven't you ever heard offensive linemen talk about, like, hey, when there's a big, scary D lineman, these guys that absolutely can wreck the game, they try to, like, do their best to not wake the dude up, to try to be nice to him, almost help him up sometimes, whatever it takes to not make him freak out.
3:12:18And I think Baker is the quarterback version of that. Do not wake this guy up because he thrives on adversity like this. And I think, yeah, you're right. Away stadiums, just keep it like Pleasantry is very nice to Baker. You're having such a great year, Baker. You're going to have an MVP year, buddy. Just say things like that to him. Did you go to Space Needle?
3:12:35Pat McAfee:Did you go to Space Needle? It's a beautiful view. You should love this place. You catch some fish, go catch some fish, buddy. You'd be so good at tossing the fish, too. You should ask him that type of stuff. What do you say, D.J. I'm just saying he's rare in that sense. Like, usually the good quarterbacks aren't, like, very chirpy. You know, you had, like, Phillip Rivers. But it's not a lot of them. Like, some of them would just kill you and just kind of be – like, this throw was unbelievable. That's when you really knew he was in his flow, especially at that point in the game, one minute left to tie it up.
3:13:01But, yeah, he's a quarterback that – we talked about it against the Texans. Once, you know, he got hurt, knee, boom, popped up. CJGJ's talking shit. Boom, you just saw him click. And, like, typically that's not what you see with quarterbacks. That's maybe linebackers, maybe running backs. But he's a guy who can talk shit. You put those chips on his shoulder. Whether you're a part of the game or not, you can be a part of the fucking crowd. He's going to take everything and use it as fuel. And he is playing his best football right now.
3:13:27Pat McAfee:What did Drew Brees say? Yeah, I'll take everything. Give me everything. Yes, please, please, please. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking. And I think Bucs fans are saying we can start earlier. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We don't have to have final. Are you? My bad. Yeah, my freaking phone. and this thing is, I suck today with this fucking thing. Yeah, you and the microphone are getting after it, but also, brand new hat. I don't, you know, that hat? Yeah, exactly, new hat. I'm just trying to, you know, figure out where I can move my hat. I can move my hat with it, you know? I'm not used to wearing hats. I usually just rock the hair, but fuck, you know?
3:13:57Pat McAfee:Hey, good patrons gear today. Not that it is abnormal. No, no, no, but it is, it's not, like, I'm not kidding, and I was telling, I forget who I was talking to last night because I sent so many texts, like, pats her back, motherfucker. Like, so many, just so many. non-pats fans. But it was one of those times where, like, I mean, I was sitting on the floor for the last two minutes of the game for that whole final drive for that kick. Like, as soon as the kick goes through, like, get a call from my brother. That hasn't happened since 2018. Oh, special feeling. Like, yeah, like, reminds you of – I'm dead serious too, especially with the Bill Belichick conversation.
3:14:33But it reminds you of how special it is when you have a really good team and what it does to a city. We're seeing it here with Indy. Fuck. We saw it with the Pacers in Indy. It really does. For me, it takes us back just because you lived it for so long with New England. But the fact that it's here now, you forget how special it is. And seeing Drake May go down the field with two minutes left, it was just amazing.
3:15:00Pat McAfee:Let's go to a city that has never had that. This is from Michael at Snoop Collects. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. but this Browns team has a chance to be good, but we're not because we have a fucking clown at head coach who can't manage a fucking game clock to save his life. Another season, another fucking wasted year, Miles Garrett's prime. Dog shit organization from Michael. I don't think I know exactly the situation because I was driving maybe downtown to the game. I missed the clock operation stuff. We'll have to revisit that. but I do know Stefanski and Andrew Barry are going to be given a lot of opportunity because I don't think it was their decision to give the most amount of money guaranteed in the history to anybody.
3:15:42Pat McAfee:But boy, that Cleveland Browns team, Dylan Gabriel looked good. I thought they'd be a little bit more positive, AJ. I didn't know it was going to be this negative. I mean, if you get a win, they'd be a little more positive. But the fact that they lost a game that people thought they should have won and they hadn't won, yeah, then you're going to get the Browns fans that say, of course, this is what happens. This is what we do. But honestly, though, isn't Deshaun Watson going to be healthy at some point? this year and want to come back. Isn't that a real thing that's possible? I haven't even broached my mind.
3:16:09Pat McAfee:Hasn't even broached my mind. I'm excited to learn about that day, though, whenever that all takes place. Because what are they going to do with the fourth string quarterback at that point? And who is the fourth string quarterback? Because I've seen, I don't know who tweeted it, something about the Raiders. Oh, yeah. CM Nation. No, no, it was Portland Trailblazers. Game time. Game time. Oh, yeah. Lillard. We need to just trade for Shador This ain't working That's what he said about the Raiders He said this ain't We're done with this one here When is trade deadline? They moved it right week 9 Or week 8 There's going to be some shit Was it active last year?
3:16:53Trade deadline? D-hop Tuesday November 4th Feels like it's going to be active this year There's going to be some big-time people moved from some bad teams, I think.
3:17:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, and also we're getting into a more naturally, more active league, it feels like. Like things are just starting to become a little bit more fantasy football-y. For sure. Yeah, teams are starting to do a little bit more selling and buying and stuff like that, which is good for us, for sure. Is it good for the long-term success of the programs? We shall see. Let's go to the next overreaction here. This one's from Nick Frederick, I do believe. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Yankees 2025 playoff. Oh, no. Well, Nick, we all know what followed. This is September 11th, 2023. Aaron Rodgers comes running out to start his entire New York Jets era.
3:17:40Pat McAfee:They're going to go on to win a Super Bowl. It was one of the greatest entrances we've seen in sports. Yes. The hype seemingly living up to the expectation of everything that could be here for the Jets for the first time since fucking Joe Namath. All we saw was four snaps on the offensive side of the ball. That's what they're saying about the Yankees, huh? Kind of. Just, you know, I was like, wow. Beat the Red Sox to get in. Exactly. That's the carrying of the American flag. Because you win that series, and then it's like, actually, everything is – I know the Blue Jays are really good, but this is kind of setting up perfectly for the Yankees to make it to the LCS.
3:18:15And potentially, you get to that point, and then you're rolling. Maybe you win a World Series. Nope. They just got fucking embarrassed two games in a row in Toronto, and now you're just thinking like, boy, what was I doing? What was I doing thinking that they were maybe going to win this series? They go back to New York. They've said like, hey, our backs were just against the wall. Who was that guy? That is Alejandro Kirk. I think it takes him like 30 seconds to run to first base. So if you get him to hit it on the ground, like he – you could basically throw it – like the third base will be able to throw it out to the left fielder.
3:18:50Pat McAfee:He'll be able to do a banana ball. Without a doubt. And throw him out by 30 feet. Problem is, when you throw him pitches right down the middle, he's a surly son of a bitch. He's going to hit him out of the ballpark, and he did a fair amount of that over the weekend. Like I said, I had so much hope and optimism going into this, and to Toronto's credit, it was instantaneous. In the first inning of the first game, they hit a homer, and it's like, okay, we're okay, and then they come up in the second inning, and they hit another homer. It's like, okay, we're still, you know, we've got good lineup as well.
3:19:29And then the Yankees just keep striking out and the Blue Jays just keep hitting homers and just keep hitting homers. What did they outscore them? 22-8 in two games in Toronto. These Yankees are shite. I didn't know that was the case. When I was holding these, I think I pulled 12 homers. I'm not kidding.
3:19:46Pat McAfee:This is the one right here. Go back. Can you go back to this and have sound on this one? Yeah. We're going to have to find sound on it. Oh, we don't have sound. Okay, never mind, never mind. Did he make history? So what is that? Vlad, I don't know, maybe the first player to hit a baseball 8 ,000 feet and 10 ,000 miles an hour off the bat. I mean, that was – and I knew that was going to happen. They bring in Will Warren, who's a starter, hasn't pitched out of the bullpen all year. You bring him in with the bases loaded against their best hitter. It's like, what do you expect to happen? He grooves in one right down the middle.
3:20:17And Vlad, he knew too. He was like, oh, wow, I might fucking hit that to Buffalo. So, you know, I'm going to sit here and pimp this a little bit. And God, the Blue Jays, they got these little fucking like suit jackets that they put on the guys after they hit the homers. I saw that about 10 ,000 times over the weekend. Almost bought one because I was like, well, that's actually kind of a cool little thing they're doing.
3:20:37Pat McAfee:So we'll see. You almost got influenced by the other team's home run celebration. Yeah, exactly. So, and you know what? To make things worse, Buck Martinez, who is the play-by-play guy, or no, the color guy for the Blue Jays broadcast. he said back you know maybe like a couple months ago they weren't even playing the yankees the blue jays were playing the astros and just out of nowhere he kind of and he's like you know what i'm not worried about the yankees because they're just not a good team and aaron boone mentioned that uh leading into this series he was like i heard what buck martinez said you know and like contrary to popular belief like we are a good team and then for them to just get embarrassed two games in a row in toronto what was buck doing keeping it a buck up yeah exactly him and dan And Shulman, they were keeping it a buck.
3:21:20So we'll see. Backs against the wall going back to New York. At the very least, boy, you better not get 10-runned. You cannot get swept.
3:21:28Pat McAfee:Do they have a running clock? No, they don't. They don't. But you'll see, you go down 6-0, you basically bring in a fucking fat New Yorker from the crowd to pitch the last three innings because it doesn't matter. So we'll see. It's the Yankees. We'll see what happens. Maybe Herbstrick gets out there and throws one. He can be good. That's not a bad idea. He would have been better out of the bullpen than Luke Weaver over the weekend. I know that. Fucking son of a bitch. All right, last overreaction here from New York. The Jets chef at the Jets chef. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the 2025 Jets might as well be a make-a-wish team for how they're putting their fans on death row, watching whatever has been on the field the last decade plus.
3:22:10Pat McAfee:Fireman Ed hasn't given up, right? No. I think Fireman Ed's first-class ticket to Bermuda. He's fucking out of there. Yeah, no, this is Fireman Ed's like fourth stint. He's given up three times already. No, that's not true. No, I mean, dude, I know a bunch of Jets fans. He has. He'd be crazy if he didn't. What does he do with this? Yeah, it'd be hard not to. He might not be a real fan, but there are Jets fans that are riding along the misery, certainly. It's like a part of the thing. Greeny, Cole. I mean, you name it. You start listing off names of fans, and it's just like, are they always going to stink?
3:22:45Pat McAfee:And Aaron Glenn's got to get his culture in there, right? AJ, that's what we need to say? Yeah, he does. How long does that take, I guess? You've got to give some hope. You've got to show some kind of hope at some point, which I would assume they will at some point this year. Did you see how hard Justin Fields threw that ball off that guy's head? He's got a cannon, man. He really does. He should start for the Yankees. He should start game three for the Yankees. Let's try it. He's right there. He's right there. I mean, that thing was going to go 20 yards off of that. If that Skycam didn't get in the way, that thing's coming with real speed.
3:23:16Pat McAfee:This is in super-duper slow-mo. Look how fast it's still coming. Hey, man, Jackson Dart pitching a couple innings each. I don't hate that. Russell Wilson's over there, too. Oh, yeah, Russell. Nah, he's long in the tooth. He fucking stinks. No, he doesn't. We don't need another guy coming in throwing 91 miles an hour right down the middle. We got enough of those fucking guys, okay? He might have been on Savannah Bananas. I watched the Savannah Bananas. They got a new team. He's beating the hell out of the game. Dude, I don't know what's going on. He's a cowboy hat guy. The Savannah Bananas have a team that has full cowboy hat.
3:23:46Pat McAfee:It's a whole team. because they've got multiple teams now. I saw the fucking bananas got eliminated from playoff contention. Shut up. What the hell is that about? Yeah, one of their players fucking made an out against the party animals. He was fucking sitting in the third base bleachers. What are we doing? Does banana ball even work? They didn't make the fucking playoffs. I thought they won every game. They've got a lot of good teams. I know. Party animals are good. Yeah, here it is. So are the firefighters. He'll get the points and the runs. He's got two different things. Yep, he's out there.
3:24:13Pat McAfee:I'm going to give you that. Hold on. You're telling me the PAs beat the bananas? Yeah, I think the PAs eliminated the bananas. Is that a banana? Is that what you're saying? Yes, this guy is a banana. I'll say this. I don't think he is a banana. That was what the tweet said. I just took it as gospel. I think that's an actual out over there. Yeah, it's one of those goofy rules they have. No, that's what I'm saying. He is a banana. Yeah, the bananas have been eliminated from playoff contention. This guy went to the game, the party animals against whoever the fuck their plan, and he made the out as a spectator.
3:24:48He is a banana. That guy's a banana? That guy is a banana. Look at him. Go do your banana. Look at him. He knows all the party animals. He's saying, hey, thank you for the out. We're going to make it to the playoffs. Darius Slade did that with one of Jalen Hurch's throws yesterday, too. Caught it in the crowd. Tony. Slade was there. Yeah, he loves ball.
3:25:08Pat McAfee:He loves football. Okay? Eagles was the closest to Pittsburgh game that he could get to. I like it. He used to go to the high school games a lot. Yes. In Detroit. Bingo. That reminds me of someone. Slade does love ball, bro. Loves ball. Yeah. Four and one, by the way. Very. Three and one, maybe. Yeah, I don't think you played five weeks. You had a bye week. Won the bye week, though. Yeah. Undefeated bye week. How did the AFC North do yesterday? How did they do? Ravens. Nice two weeks. L. Bengals. L. Browns. L. Steelers. Home. long road here. It's an early bye week. The longest road you can take is the best one.
3:25:51We'll see it, Tony.
3:25:52Pat McAfee:You do say that. All right, we'll see. I don't know if that's ever been said. People say the shortest usually. Maybe now it'll be forever etched in stone with the Steelers run. If you want handouts, take the shortest one. If you want to win a circle, you've got to take the long road. That's a long walk, brother. All right. he's on the Jacksonville Jaguars plus three and a half. I have the Kansas City Chiefs minus three and a half. He's on the over. I'm on the under. D. Butch likes the Kansas City Chiefs as well. So we shall see how tonight goes. You like the over or under? Oh, shit. Give me the under.
3:26:29Pat McAfee:Okay. Two unders between me and D. Butch. Now, granted, I did have to pick the complete opposite of A.J. because A.J. is up 10-3 to 9-4 on the weekend's picks. A.J. seeing the board well. That's why he's a Hoffnom. That's why he's a Hoffnom. 9-4, I'm pretty happy with that, to be clear. I went 2-14 last week. 3-13 last week. So this is good. Get back from me. Can steal this thing tonight. Absolutely. Can steal this thing tonight, AJ. Don't let me do it. You can. You won't, but you can. Don't you Arizona Cardinals this. Don't you this thing into the end zone. We'll be back tomorrow. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.
3:27:07Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice about. Change your life. We're in this thing together. AJ, any final thoughts? Better one tomorrow, fellas. I doubt it. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.
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