PMS 2.0 1425 - Watt Wednesday, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Roman Reigns, Emeka Egbuka, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk

19:36And Blacko certainly, he's done it before.

19:40JJ Watt:Yes, he has.

19:41Pat McAfee:He went out of the, off the couch, through the Browns, led them to the playoffs, which is why I think Stefanski brought him back this year. After a year with the Colts, it did not go great, other than the fact that he got to wear really cool cleats on coconut husk grass. Hell yeah. Curf over here in Indianapolis. He goes back to Cleveland. Obviously, that quarterback room had a lot of conversation going into the year because a third-round pick in Dylan Gabriel, fifth-round pick in Shador Sanders, Super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett was in there at one point, and Joey Flacco, who's named starter of them all.

20:10Pat McAfee:Shador Sanders was kind of attacked by cameras, or Shador Sanders was at an event with a lot of cameras that were at it. We don't know what it was, but he was at a car dealership, so it might have been an event where he was doing something, giving back. You know, who knows what all he was doing. And there was a good three-camera shoot, 8K cameras. Oh, yeah. Beautiful. He looked very good in these shots live from the car dealership's lobby. And he said, like, everything he said was like, thanks to Joe. I appreciate Joe. I leaned on Joe. Joe helped me. I talked to him after the trade. We talked about how quick it was.

20:42Pat McAfee:That was wild. And then he just kind of moved on. It was like he gave the perfect answer for the situation. And I think that quarterback room has dealt with this all pretty well. And Joe Flacco, obviously, being a 45-year vet, and the way he acts and talks, like, I'm not their uncle. Like, I think he has helped with that entire room. And any success that they have from there, I think they will give credit to Joe, just like a lot of places have in this kind of journeyman career that Joe Flacco has had. Is it going to work for the Bengals, though? I don't know if they could block anybody. True. Don't think they can.

21:15Pat McAfee:Yeah. Well, Joe Flacco back there, they're going to have to. But, well, footsteps, you know, you've got to be careful. He can move a pretty decent amount. But if they can protect him just a little bit, if they can just let Joe Flacco just get that thing from here to here. Exactly. There's a chance at that high-powered offense. Yeah, sure. There's a lot of weapons out there. Oh, my God. There's a number one. There's another number one. How many number ones have we got around here? I didn't know that. It's like I go to a fast food, I'll take two number ones. Yeah, he got that here. And since that, Joe Flacco's thinking this is the best time of his entire life.

21:48Pat McAfee:Got Green Bay Packers. I already know this team. Yeah. I already beat this team. Exactly. No, I threw for 140 yards. Still. But man, it's the game. Yeah, you see the minute drive to go in and win a game? You tell me. We'll just do that for the whole game. So Joe's already got to figure it out.

22:02AQ Shipley:When was the last time we had a team trade in their division? A quarterback at that? Oof. Was it Donovan? Oh, man, that's on the spot. To Washington? Yeah. Hmm. That might be it, actually. That might be the only one. Did you hear what Tone just said? Yeah, I did. Everybody just heard what? Yeah. That's actually a great – that's a good thought. That's a good thought from Tone.

22:26Pat McAfee:Tone, you just said that – sorry, it's inside joke right now for four of us because Tone is in hammer, down, down. What did you say?

22:35Darius Butler:AQ was talking to me this morning, and he thought that Joe might retire today.

22:39Pat McAfee:Why would he do that? Just because he got traded to the Bengals and just say, no more, I'm not doing it? Listen, when you're 40 years old, you go to Cleveland and you think you're going to be the number three, the number four, the mentor in the room, and then all of a sudden you're starting and you're like, okay, well, this is great, but I'm in Cleveland. And then they trade you to Cincinnati. Even worse scenario. You've got no offensive line, no blocking. Don't be surprised. Wednesday practice, hour and a half from now. I'm not doing it. I'm done. It's pretty jerseys. Press out the print. They're saying that's what Amari Cooper did when he saw Dino Smith throw a slant route in the training camp.

23:11That's what I saw on the internet, and that's for shoot.

23:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, I understand that. That is for shoot, but there's a lot of people.

23:17JJ Watt:I mean, Jamar Chase was their second leading tackler in the game this weekend.

23:22Pat McAfee:He's a great athlete. He walked in backwards, scored touches. Joe Flacco saw that. So there's either that mindset, that he's completely done with all the shits, or it's Joe Flacco saying, I can take his team to the Super Bowl. Chris is always greener over here. Yes, it is. Right over there, especially with everything they have. Let's talk about some other situations brewing, especially for a place you used to call home and a team you used to play for. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, not sure if you saw the end of the Arizona Cardinals game, the entire second half. It was an epic collapse. And just wanted to get your thoughts on the second half of that game.

23:58JJ Watt:Yeah, yeah, man. So I was in the booth, obviously, on Sunday doing our game. and then on the flight home, I started checking to see what's going on in the rest of the games around the league, and you see the Cardinals are up, and then you start to see the lead dwindle a little bit, and you're like, oh, man, the Titans are making a little run here. And then I get home and I see all the videos, and, man, it was just a tough, tough, tough ending with the fumble at the goal line, with the snap hitting in the head, and then with the interception returned for a touchdown. I mean, think about this Cardinals team.

24:34JJ Watt:They have lost three games by a total, not each game, a total of five points in those three games. They've lost them all on the last play game. They are literally three plays away or three missed final field goals away from being 5-0. And instead, they're now being talked about like this with these types of comedy of errors plays going on. And it's just brutal, man. Obviously, for my former team and a team that I have so many friends on that I want to see do so good, this was painful to see.

25:05Pat McAfee:I think this is still a touchdown. No, I think... I don't disagree with you there. And I don't think anybody cares because it's like, can't do it. Can't even be that close. You can't do it, especially in that situation. So I think that is why maybe the football gods were just like, nope, not giving it to them. And then everything else that took place takes place. Feels like this could set up for a dangerous Cardinals team. No. Like dangerous, like as in it explodes and like everybody starts hating each other and they all just quit on the season? Well, you got Gannon getting fined$100 ,000. Yeah.

25:35Pat McAfee:And last time that happened, Bruce Harris. Yeah, exactly. He slapped somebody in the head. In this moment, obviously, that we showed yesterday, I don't know if Billy O and J.J. Watts fight at practice got anything, but this moment that we showed yesterday was the reason for a$100 ,000 fine. Can't happen. The first one, who knows what he's saying? He can't do it. The second one, obviously, optically in 2025, the NFL does not want to have happen on the sideline of a football game. And, you know, old school coaches, B.A. was actually here yesterday. What was he supposed to do? It's like, all right, well, there's a lot of other answers these days.

26:08Pat McAfee:He gets fined for that. Everybody's calling him a laughingstock. You know, everybody's getting attacked in that building. And they have maybe the best team in football this weekend. In a lot house. Oh, no. Yeah, the Indianapolis Colts are the cock of the walk, brother. I don't know if you know that. Danny Dimes, everything he's doing, good. Everything Shane Steichen doing, great. Tyler Warren might be the best player in football, honestly. Could probably play him in multiple positions. We're only using him at one right now. Actually, three right now. Putting him at a tight end. Putting him at wide out.

26:38Pat McAfee:He's also a fullback running back. And I think he's taking a snap. So maybe five positions he's played for us already. This guy is remarkable. Jonathan Taylor is going to score two, three touchdowns a week throughout the rest of the season. And the defense with Lou Anarumo, smother it. Okay, we're all over the place. And we're getting the ball. And Carly Ursa, one of the big three, one of the owners. I had a chance to chat with her before the game whenever she was coming to visit me and my wife, Corgi, Chuck. And she certainly had some opinions on how fat Chuck kind of was. And that was one of her first things is, hey, we've got to take care of that.

27:10Pat McAfee:But she said, hey, the defense was very confident in the fact that we're going to get some turnovers today because the trajectory or where Geno chooses to throw, we got guys. We got guys in good spots. So game plan was to actively create turnovers. And we also say Cross is getting to the quarterback like every other play. so we're sending pressure it's like the colts are fun to watch they're explosive offensive and defensively we got a great punter doesn't really have to do anything and then our field goal kicker we just signed the money badger michael badgley back to the team is pretty good the colts are dominant but this cardinals team they've been mocked and ridiculed yeah literally by everybody all parties including the nfl saying clown behavior bro hundred thousand dollars can't have it happen.

27:55Pat McAfee:On that note, D-Bud has a question for you, JJ.

27:57AQ Shipley:Yeah, I mean, they are, with that game, though, they are familiar with each other. Gannon and obviously Steikums on that Super Bowl staff, so, I mean, it is much different offense with Danny Dimes running and Jalen Hurts, but what is the, what do you, how do you see the state of the AFC South right now? A lot of expectations were not there for the Colts coming into the season. Maybe a little higher for the Texans, and I don't think they were there for the Jags either. You have the Colts and Jags sitting up there at the top. Houston, look like they're kind of finding their form, and then Tennessee, who knows what's going on there, but What's your overall opinion on the state of AFC South?

28:28JJ Watt:Yeah, first we have to address Chuck. Is there a plan? Are we trying to get Chuck in shape? Do we have any sort of program in place?

28:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, we start him in a stumpy stampede race, see if he likes it, enjoys it.

28:44JJ Watt:Oh, my goodness, man. Those legs are doing a lot of work. Yeah, dude, it's bad.

28:48Pat McAfee:No, he's got good joints, this guy. He's literally a tank. I thought you said you're taking him in for dog obstruction. Kind of get all that stuff out. I was looking for some dog hogs and big for him. Sure. But the thing about it is his body rejected it. No, I don't want it. This is who he is. Beat it. I think he was a little bit perturbed by what was going on. Didn't necessarily know where to head. My wife, who he certainly likes and loves a lot more than me, was down at the finish line. Because in theory, that's the right move. Chuck obviously couldn't pay attention long enough to find it. Yeah, he couldn't.

29:23Pat McAfee:The other corgis were able to find there. And then, obviously, you've got to assist him a little bit and make sure he gets through the finish line. This is one shining moment here. Okay, I go and grab him.

29:30JJ Watt:He's built like an ottoman, bro. He's built like an ottoman. Whoa!

29:35Pat McAfee:Wow, JJ. Okay, okay. Wow. That's not fair. I'm sorry. You nailed it. Like a body pillow. The issue is his body will collapse if I was to put my legs on his back. It is at max capacity right now, that body. And this is just the first steps. Is Chuck a table fooder?

30:00JJ Watt:Is he a table food?

30:02Pat McAfee:To be honest, yeah, he'll eat some of ours. I'm not. I think he does a majority of his eating, like, maybe middle of the day. Because at night, I don't see him eating much. Like, he doesn't eat a lot of our food. So I think he potentially gets stuff like a pig or he has no metabolism. Yeah, okay. When we got him, he was big. We got him, he was big. Big bodied, big boned. He had been, obviously, Corgi's the whole – he was in a dog store for a long time. He was by far the most mature dog in the store. Nobody wanted a steak. Okay, nobody wanted a steak. That's crazy. I didn't know that. I genuinely wonder why.

30:42Pat McAfee:and then once I meet him, I'm like, this guy's a stubborn prick. That is why. That is certainly why. I assume whenever people would get him out and play with him, he was just maybe the worst of all time. He's an asshole. Yeah, just complete. So him and my wife have built up a great relationship, but I will say he has been bigger than what I thought Corgis were since the day he entered our house. Now, certainly, he's certainly gotten bigger, and those little arms do get a little bit like this, but that's also potentially because nerves are being cut off by his fat on the entire thing. So we're trying, J.H., we're trying.

31:17JJ Watt:I love it. I love it. I'll get back to D. Butt's question now. I think the AFC South with the Texans starting to figure it out, but I mean, I don't think there's many people outside of Jacksonville or Indianapolis who saw it going this way, this well, this early. With Liam Cohen coming into Jacksonville and being able to turn it around so quickly, massive win against Kansas City. And it's one of those things where I said to somebody yesterday, confidence is a crazy mistress. You start to figure it out. You start to believe in yourselves. Some of these plays that used to be a comedy of errors turn around and turn into a positive for you as an organization.

31:51JJ Watt:And the more that belief grows, the more that confidence grows. All of a sudden, everybody starts playing a little bit better. The ball starts bouncing your way. Ninety nine yard pick sixes are on your terms instead of the other team's terms. So the Colts really crushing it right now. I mean, you turn on that game halfway through it, we flipped on the score and like, wow, crushing the Raiders. So I'm looking forward. I might have a chance here in the near future to check out a Colts game, and I would really enjoy that because I want to see what they're all about and how they're doing. And then the Texans.

32:23JJ Watt:Texans start to figure it out. Titans kind of gifted a win there, so they're in the W column. AFC South.

32:31Pat McAfee:On that note, here's some stats about the AFC South. Here's win-loss record against other divisions, non-division games this season. Win-loss and the points differential. AFC South, 8-6, plus 80. That's a lot of the Colts. Colts right now are plus a huge amount. AFC West, 6-8. AFC North, 5-10. AFC East, 3-7. You tell us. Everybody's talking about the AFC South as a laughing stock. Ride our coattails. Yeah, you're welcome, AFC. Remember all the good quarterbacks at the top. Oh, yeah. Danny Dimes is one of them. Boom. Boom. Just like we said it would. Now, fascinating how good the Colts became. Yeah.

33:06Pat McAfee:Like, legitimately. That's all they needed. Almost otherworldly. Yeah. Three positions. Three, four positions we added. QB, corner, safety. Yep. Right? We just signed Pratt yesterday. Pratt was on the Raiders. Okay? Was on the Bengals for a long time with Lou Anarumo. Then he was on the Raiders for the first five weeks of the season. Last week, before playing the Indianapolis Colts, non-injured, kind of taken off. Then we signed him. so I have no idea what happened there. Ponte's here, though. Great to have him here. But then on the offensive side, it's like Quentin Nelson's become more of a leader.

33:39Pat McAfee:I don't know. A lot of people are going to be like, see what the Colts were able to do overnight, basically. It's been crazy to experience it, JJ. This has not been predictable, I think. I blindly was saying it, but everybody was laughing at me, and I potentially maybe only half believed it. But on that note...

33:56JJ Watt:Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's that? All of a sudden, you were the chief believer, and you weren't even renewing your ticket. Believe R. I was a believe R, brother.

34:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, A-R at the end, remember? I think I created the term believe R because I was. I went through the offseason. I reevaluated my views on the team with the people that I care about that work at the team, and I said, you know what? What am I going to do, not be a Colts fan? Yeah, right. and the people that are wearing the uniforms right now aren't going to be wearing the uniforms forever. So we'll be here after that. So let's remember that. You know, did that whole thing. Then I buy the tickets back and then we bring in Danny Dimes. I'm like, okay, maybe there's a shot here. I can see it. Now we start to...

34:42Pat McAfee:AR started showing up early, started doing the shit before practice, before everything. I'm like, hold on now. If we have AR, maximum AR, I'm a believer. And if we got Dimes time, okay, I can buy... Gardner Minshew almost took us to the playoffs. That's right. Then we bring in a couple guys on defensive side, and we still got good trade pieces. Great. Before the trade deadline, we can still make some plays, I think. So, yeah, I was dining out on the people wearing the uniforms and the pads because of how they're representing the things they had been doing and the way they've been acting and talking and portraying a lot of things.

35:16Pat McAfee:But they've got to live their lives.

35:16JJ Watt:Is that a double ring? I've got to ask. I just noticed this for the first time. Can I get the meaning of the double ring?

35:21Pat McAfee:Okay, so silica, rubber, wedding ring, obviously, because i don't want to get that yeah right and then this is a baby girl's hair tie one of her hair ties ah nice see that could be nice could be pink or baby blue but i think that's too loud

35:37JJ Watt:so just kind of put it here you know in the entire thing i like that i'm a good hey i got a good

35:43Pat McAfee:ponytail nice tight pony yeah i got a good ponytail i used to have long hair so i know you gotta go from the bottom you know because whenever that ship bunches up in there it thought you don't get it all because there's going to be pieces falling out of the bottom. So you got to get that thing all the way up here.

36:00Pat McAfee:Nope. Flyers. Tighten these things up. All right. Go say what's up to mom. Yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden from down the hallway, I did that ponytail. Bragging about it. So that's what that is, brother. That's what that is. Colts are the real deal. A team that might not be the real deal in the AFC East is having problems all over the place. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Jage. what the hell's going on with the Jets defense? It seems like every year that's kind of the one thing you can hang your hat on. Everyone always talks about how good they are. And then they get Aaron Glenn, and he assures everyone he's going to turn it around.

36:33And it just really hasn't looked like that. Now, granted, it does seem like the Jets are losing about 12 to 15 fumbles per game. So I don't know if that's necessarily helping out the defense. But what the hell's going on here, and is this going to get fixed anytime soon?

36:49JJ Watt:man you know we we did a jets preseason game and we did the jets in week one and you talked to erin glenn everybody in the organization and it's you just you definitely have a sense of that like all right this is they're very locked in this is pure football they're going to go out there and they're going to fix all the issues that the jets have had in the past i mean the one stat right now that's blowing my mind and i'm like i've asked like two or three people to check this because I know zero turnovers in five games like the defense hasn't even accidentally fallen on a ball that the other team dropped like there hasn't been a ball that's bounced up in the air like I that is I think it's the only time since 1933 that's ever happened five games to start a season with zero takeaways I mean like you guys have played like people just drop the ball by running into the line of scrimmage sometimes or the ball will bounce off a face mask and up into the air and you can grab one.

37:44JJ Watt:So I guess that's a little bad luck in addition to not being able to get them. But I hope they turn around. I let them win. The New York teams are good. It's fun for everybody. And they just are currently not good.

37:56Pat McAfee:Don't want to remind everybody of this because where the Detroit Lions are right now. Foxy, what was your guys' record first year MCDC? Started out 0-10 and then year two started out 1-6 and that's when everything changed. And remember the MCDC cried whenever they got a win. Everybody's like, what a loser this guy. And all he kept saying was like, I've seen it every day, man. They're getting better at work and they haven't been paid off for the work that they've put in. I wonder if Aaron Glenn feels the same way. Like, hey, it's not good right now, but we've got to build here. We've got to build a culture.

38:24Pat McAfee:And will they have enough patience? You talk about whenever a New York team is good, it's good. But when you're bad in New York, too, it's very much like bad.

38:32JJ Watt:There's no question that the pressure is cooked so much higher when you're in that New York market. And I think it also is very tough when you see a brand new head coach like Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville, big win over the Kansas City Chiefs Monday night. He's got that team 4-1. And you're sitting there as a New York fan, and you're like, okay, I'm believing in you guys. I'm trusting the process. I'm understanding it takes time. We have to fully turn this culture around. But then you flip on your TV Monday night, and you're like, wait, wait, wait. They're in a very similar situation, and they turned it around so fast.

39:02JJ Watt:So it's tough. I completely get it. I don't disagree on the Detroit point. In the Dan Campbell point, sometimes you have to weed out a lot of issues and turn it around. But it's tough when you look across at the neighbor and you see the grass growing real nice and green.

39:16Pat McAfee:Well, the good news for him is the Giants don't seemingly have that going on this year, and they haven't for a while. On that note, those two teams are in a conversation a little bit different. Bengals have been in this conversation. The Ravens have slipped into that conversation as maybe not this year teams. Everybody else seemingly in it. Connor has a question for you, Jage. Yeah, Jage. It feels like this year the teams that we thought were going to be really good again like the Ravens, a few others, the Bengals, the injuries are kind of there. The Texans, though, would fall under that as someone you kind of thought was going to run away with it.

39:46But there's these teams kind of coming out of nowhere. I'm not going to throw the Patriots in just yet, but the Colts, you know, the Jags being formed.

39:53JJ Watt:It's all right to feel good about yourself. I feel good about it. I feel it. Let's not go there yet, though, James. Let's stay focused here. How about the league? Are you pumped about the parity? I feel like we all are very excited about seeing some new teams toward the top of their divisions, at least early on? Do you think this is going to continue for the rest of the season? I'm pumped about the parity. I love, I think this is the best thing that the NFL has going about it is the way that it's all designed with the draft, with free agency, with the waiver wire, with the way they set up the schedule.

40:25JJ Watt:It's so much fun tuning in every week, knowing that you don't know exactly what's going to happen and anybody can win any game. The Pats versus the Bills, great game. And really enjoyed watching that. So it has been enjoyable. I do think that the cream eventually rises to the top over time, and people figure it out, and the best talent along with the best coaching will get to the top. But it's fun. It's a whole lot of fun. I mean, you have the Browns beating the Packers. That's probably the biggest one we've seen so far this year in terms of surprises. Flacco. Joey Flacco, bro. This is good about your Pats, man.

40:58JJ Watt:That was a huge win for the Pats, And Drake May does seem like he's got that factor where he can step up in those situations and lead his team. And you put the right team around him and Mike Brable gets them operating on all cylinders and cleaning up some of the execution and the penalties and things. They really do have a solid setup. I mean, not to mention, too, we're kind of approaching that territory where some of those good teams that are actually poopy might start fire sailing. And I don't want to go there, but we got kind of three games we should win going forward for New England. So an A.J.

41:34Bratton, maybe a Derrick Henry, perhaps they might be available. And also, a little side note, I saw this on X right before. The Pats were all blue this week. Next week, they are all white. I believe that is a shot at the Buffalo Beals.

41:48Pat McAfee:I don't know if it's a shot or if it's just cool jersey. Took your chain, bitch! I like that. Our jersey's there!

41:54JJ Watt:I like the Vraves. I did not take them off. I said I didn't want to get ahead of himself, said don't get ahead of ourselves, and I was screaming into the microphone right now. That was 45 seconds. Is this your fault, brother? You're the one that was like, you should feel good about your team. I do.

42:06Pat McAfee:He does feel good. And earlier today, whenever he was laying out the, A.J. Brown might be, who's he got history with? Who was mad whenever he got trailed out of Tennessee? Oh, Vrabel. Oh, who else might be on a team that's not that great this year, but they're going to pay a lot of money.

42:21JJ Watt:Who are you sending to the Eagles? Who are you sending to the Eagles for A.J. Brown? Who are we sending to the Eagles for A.J. Brown? Well, hold on. Okay. We can take his whole entire contract, so let's get that off the books. And then, I don't know, we could probably send them like a Keyon White, pass rusher, rookie on a young contract. And then when you think about the Ravens with Derrick Henry, if they're just kind of punted on it, then we can send them Ramondre Stevenson right back. Hey, you still get a good running back, but clearly you're not going to go to the playoffs this year. Why don't we just take Derrick Henry off your hands?

42:50A.J. Brown, you want to catch passes that aren't, you know, thrown up? You don't have to play defense on Devontae Smith anymore, brother. Drake May will actually throw you the football, even though stats would say that they are still throwing him the football this year. He's just not catching it.

43:02Pat McAfee:Well, Hembo would say that the targets to A.J. Brown are the same as they were last year, and A.J. Brown might say, I'm not doing this again. Allegedly, there was a conversation, A.J. Brown, Jalen Hurts, and Saquon Barkley, a long one. Jimmy Kemski covers the Eagles. I'm told Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, and Saquon Barkley had a long, positive conversation. Lasted a couple hours. Maybe they do this every week, though.

43:24JJ Watt:I hope they have conversations. What the hell? They're on the same team, dude.

43:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, but I think the implication was, hey, there's a lot of drama seemingly. They're a 4-1 football team. They're Philadelphia Eagles.

43:35JJ Watt:Who told Jimmy Kemski that? Who told him that?

43:38Pat McAfee:He's plugged in.

43:39JJ Watt:There's three people in the conversation. Who told him?

43:42Pat McAfee:So Jimmy Kemski has somebody in the hallway looking for the door to open, and then there's only three of them. And then immediately to Jimmy.

43:51JJ Watt:That was an hour long, or that was multiple hours long, and it was positive. It was very positive. I could tell that.

43:57Pat McAfee:Ear on wall person. Laughing and joking in there. Ha ha ha. Are they watching a movie? It's been a long time. And then sees them leave. They're laughing and smiling. Seem positive, Jim. Let it fly. Think they were watching a movie. I do wonder, you know, how they balance this year. Always drama in Philadelphia, for whatever reason. I think it's because it's the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach Sirianni, there's some stat that we just read and found. He averages the most points for the first 50 games as a head coach in NFL history. It's like him, Sean Payton, Mike Marz, MCDC, and McCarthy. They all average like 26.7 points a game.

44:33Pat McAfee:And all we in the media and everybody has done is this offense stinks, man. What does this guy do? This guy's got no idea. They're reigning Super Bowl champs are 4-1 right now. Got the best record in all of the ball, and all anybody wants them to do is hopefully fall apart. That's classic Philadelphia Eagles, it feels like. That's right. And they're strong enough to survive. We hope they certainly will. JJ, what game do you have this weekend?

44:53JJ Watt:This weekend I have the Browns at the Steelers, AFC North battle.

44:57Pat McAfee:You're calling a lot of your brother's games. A lot of them.

45:01JJ Watt:It turns out that the second best AFC game on CBS every week generally does tend to involve the Pittsburgh Steelers while they're sitting at 3-1. Yes, there have been quite a few. It's his birthday Saturday, so I'm looking forward to seeing him on his birthday.

45:13Pat McAfee:Oh, birthday game for TJ Watt. Got to take that into account for sure, especially with big bro up in the booth. Every time you're up there, he does well?

45:25JJ Watt:I mean, last game he had, the Patriots game, he had two sacks. Hey, let's make sure we're not biased. The first game wasn't great.

45:35Pat McAfee:Don't be getting too excited. Okay, up there whenever TJ's making it.

45:38JJ Watt:I'm excited, dude. I mean, we got Miles Garrett and TJ Watt in the same game. It's going to be great. There's an incredible pass rush in this game. And the Browns rookies are crushing it. Browns rookie draft, they're not getting enough credit. I mean, they're getting a lot of credit, but this rookie draft class, they're killing it.

45:54Pat McAfee:You putting respect on the pass rushers I think is a good thing from the booth. Obviously, it's one of the most important positions in all the ball, especially because it can wreck a game. But I'll tell you what, there's some other things wrecking some games. Let's head over to Hammer. Don, Don. Is this still football tone? Yeah, T-H-R. Sorry.

46:09Darius Butler:Whoa. Oh, no. I'm excited. Oh, no. Whoa. Oh, geez. That's Billy Bones right now.

46:15JJ Watt:I mean, Pat threw you a no-look toss. He literally no-look tossed you a lead, and then you do that bullshit. He didn't mean it, Derek.

46:24Pat McAfee:Oh, shit. Oh, no. Listen, AJ. Oh, no.

46:30Darius Butler:That's a mistake. I'm asking about TJ, and I'm asking about Miles because you had just brought them up, and I know you were interested in those two just horrendous roughing the passer calls this weekend, one for the Saints, and then one on the Bucs. What? What is going on, Jage? Right there.

46:49JJ Watt:This is bullshit is what's going on. And today, Wednesday is usually around, maybe Thursday is around when we find out about the fines. And if either of these two were fined, we need to have a very serious, loud, public conversation. But this is just, the second one, like the only thing I can see about that Buccaneers one is leading into it, He did kind of dip his head a little bit, which I can see the ref when he leave with the crown of your helmet, even though he ended up pulling off. I can kind of see that. I mean, it's still very soft in my opinion. But that first one on the Saints, man, it's like he's standing up straight.

47:23JJ Watt:He's hitting them basically body to body. He rolls off. He pulls his hands away. I don't know what you want a defensive guy to do. You literally can't not take the guy to the ground any more than that. And if you want to say, well, his helmet, his face mask raised the back of his helmet. But it's like, okay, so you don't want to stand him high. You don't want to stand him low. It would have been 10 times more hurtful if he just spears him in the back here. This is about the best possible way you can lay a quarterback down, and we're still throwing flags on it. I mean, somebody's got to stand up for the defensive guys here.

47:56JJ Watt:This is just bullshit. And that's a 15-yard penalty that now moves them 15 yards forward, automatic first down, all that type of shit. Takes the sack away from this guy. Like, just give me a break. I'm sick of it.

48:08Pat McAfee:J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. Thanks for doing that, J.J. Hey, baby, J.J. I hate it. I hate it. Better than you. Because they've been trying to change that rule to make it like still football, but also let's not take out quarterbacks are the most important position. We had how many different quarterbacks play that one year? 90 or 60 or something like that? I forget what it was. Yeah, high 60. I think it was like 68. So they've been trying to adapt the rules. I think Ben Roethlisberger, or Carson Palmer, I mean, whenever he was with the Bengals, there was like a crawling thing that happened to him against the Pittsburgh Steelers, changed the rule.

48:42Pat McAfee:Tom Brady had something happen, changed the rule. Then there was a throwing, a slinging-type rule that was there. Full body control, but don't put your body weight. You can't go through the ground. There's a strike zone. You're not allowed to hit. You're not allowed to hit. So there's been a lot of rules to try to create the perfect way to tackle the most valuable piece on a football field in a quarterback position. And inevitably, it's always just a judgment call by the refs that are on the field. Like, you saw that guy staring down the – he literally just kind of gives him like a chest bump to his back, though.

49:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's crazy. Like, that's literally running full speed.

49:13JJ Watt:And, like, I wanted to – That had to hurt. That ref was throwing the flag. I wanted to give the ref the benefit of the doubt and say, oh, he just saw it immediately and threw it. But, like, take time. Why is the flag coming out so fast? Take a second, see what happened, and then be like, oh, he actually didn't do anything bad. Like, this is ridiculous. That flag is on the ground as they're still just hitting the ground. Take a second. See that he rolled off. It's like performing acrobatics. Now, I believe that there are a lot of roughing the passers that are legit. High, low, whatever. We'll play by your rules.

49:47JJ Watt:But when we're trying to play by your rules, and we're trying to do what you want us to do, give us a break. For Christ's sake. I mean, just please give us a break. Like, we're doing our best. You pull off and you pull your hands away like, buddy, I'm clearly not trying to do anything bad here. I don't want a$50 ,000 fine and a 15-yard penalty. You know how badly I want this sack? It's so hard to get. I want it so badly. Don't take it away from me. And then the other thing, okay, then there's this. So if you're going to get a penalty anyway, rock him. Just go back there and lay him out because you're going to get one anyway.

50:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, if they're going to throw the flag on a belly, chest bump to a back, you might as well just go ahead and lean that thing forward. Because I think what they saw was the helmets were at the same height maybe from where they're at. So they just assumed that this had to be contact to the helmet. Instead, it's literally just a slap to the back. And maybe the nice, if he would have grabbed him and put him down, which you'll hear some defensive people get on TV, what do you want us to do, pick him up and put him down? You want us to tuck him in whenever they're down there? Like, what do you expect from us?

50:48Pat McAfee:Such a pivotal play. And you talk about legacies and legends and everything like that. Losing sacks, getting fined. Clay Matthews lost a bunch of sacks and got fined a bunch. James Harrison, I think, was like the picture of the new version of tackling football. I think he got over a million dollars. It's not funny for James Harrison, obviously. I am not saying that. But in this transition era of trying to figure out what the rules are, there are some people that pay the price. And obviously we don't have it right yet, J.H., is what you're saying.

51:12JJ Watt:What's the rule? Strikes down? I think we should. I think we got to start publishing ref stacks. I know they're out there somewhere, the stats, because we used to get them every week in our meetings, which is cool. But maybe we just got to start, like, I mean, a little accountability going both ways there, you know?

51:29Pat McAfee:That's all we're looking for. Yep You're the man, J.H. What's the hat?

51:35JJ Watt:You guys are the man Minnesota North Stars I just like the hat Mike Medano

51:44Pat McAfee:Okay, I like what you're doing I really like what you're doing Did you watch the NHL opening night last night? See the Pittsburgh Penguins?

51:52JJ Watt:I didn't catch it But I heard you talking about it Shout out Ryan Smith Mammoth Crush, they're rebranding Phenomenal, good for them

51:59Pat McAfee:A lot of good logos, a lot of good brands. He's pretty good at Pickleball, too. You guys play in that super-duper secret game. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's really cool. You get invited to those things. Must be nice to be JJ Watt. And that's why hashtag AskJage. Exactly. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. How are the teams? Burnley and Espanol, are we winning still? We had a rough weekend. We had a rough weekend. Both lost. Oh, yeah, Minnesota North Stars hat on. Told us that story. Shouldn't even have asked. All right, we've been amazing, JJ Watt. Yeah, JJ. All right, A.Q., let's do your big takeaways coming out of week five.

52:33Pat McAfee:These are three things that you think deserve to be chatted about a little bit more. What's the first one that you think should be chatted about, A.Q.? Made for the moment. Oh, that's clever. Drake May, obviously special. We saw him on Sunday Night Football against the Buffalo Bills. What did you see, A.Q.? Yeah, he's unbelievable. Drake May is the future of this league, and let's take a look at these. I picked four plays from this game. All of them are throws that he makes on the run. This first one, play action, roll out to the right. Nothing there, nothing there, nothing there. Boom. Perfect strike where only his guy can catch it.

53:04Unbelievable. They say incomplete. That was complete. Let's watch this one again. Watch the guy over the center. Look at that. Coffee house. Feels the pressure. Roll right. Yep. There it is again. Unbelievable throw. The accuracy on the run that he has showed is unbelievable. Let's watch this one. Here we go again. Snap the ball. He's going to roll to the right. Here it is. Feels the pressure off the left. Roll to the right. I mean, you guys talked about this. This is as good a ball as you are ever going to see.

53:30Pat McAfee:So now, just quick question. They're all going to force him left, right? This is the thing?

53:35AQ Shipley:Do or try to. That's the same thing with Jaden Daniels. That's a big thing. If he goes right, rather just picking up with his legs or making throws. I mean, that's most right-handed quarterbacks. Some of them can do the damage going left as well. What was it?

53:47Pat McAfee:Baker, they were talking about Baker, was always running to his right, running to his right. So they have guys basically bring pressure and then loop around and hand up because they thought they were going to be able to block it. This is just part of trying to get a book on somebody, I think. What Drake has proven, what you were showing here, is rolling to his right, he might be the best quarterback in football. And look how strong he is here. Daquan Jones, 320 pounds, right on him. Stiff arm, enough wherewithal to find Diggs again. I mean, he's unbelievable. What's the second AQ takeaway from week five, brother?

54:15Pat McAfee:Mayfield mayhem. Whoa! Wow, Baker. And it's really funny that you just talked about Baker Mayfield only being able to go to his right. Let's watch this first play. Okay. No, this was his rookie year I was talking. Play action, roll to the left. Look at this ball. That is the hardest thing to do as a right-handed quarterback. Roll to your left, throw back across your body. Perfect ball. Let's look at the next play. Here we go again. Baker Mayfield finds Egbuka in the hole. This ball, I mean, this is as good of a quarterback game as you're ever going to see. He played out of his mind. Third one.

54:45Look at this little skinny seam route to Egbuka again. We got him later on in the show. Look at this. Drops it in a bucket. And I love the view from behind. and then, okay, cool, we hit some out routes. We hit this route. We hit the play action. Let's send this thing 65 yards in the air again to the rookie phenom.

55:04Pat McAfee:Emeka Abuka, he'll be joining us here in about 35 minutes or so. Cannot wait to catch up with him. What a special start to his NFL career he has had down there in Tampa. I said this week, Baker Mayfield, MVP, let alone him still chirping with fans. I like everything about what he's doing down there. And what's the third thing that needs to be chatted about? Easy Ez erases the edge. Nailed it. Nailed it. Easy Ezra. Ezra Cleveland comes down from Minnesota a couple years ago, solidifies this Jaguars offensive line. Let's talk about that. So right there when he is on the ground, if we can go back real quick, Trevor Lawrence, when he's on the ground, they are trying to keep him contained on the pocket.

55:42He cannot escape through the B-gap as long as he holds the edge. Ezra Cleveland, boom, puts his ass on the ground, opens it up. Trevor Lawrence through the B-gap. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

55:52Pat McAfee:He races the edge that's easy as the Jacksonville Jaguars have a little heat to them this year. Big time. Don't look down. They're a real team. They're in the trenches, top five. They're in everything DB, good D, bad D. I mean, there's real things brewing down there in Duval, and the NFL is obviously incredibly fantastic. We're lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. We also try to cover news that we feel is good for people to learn, potentially provide a little bit more context. On Monday, we learned of a video that was made publicly available by Kyron Lacey's lawyer. In it, what we thought showed more context to the accident that inevitably led to the tragic loss of two lives.

56:34Pat McAfee:Herman Hall, who dies in a car accident, and then Kyron Lacey, who later ends up killing himself because of the fallout of everything in which he was accused. We thought we had more context. Now more video has been made publicly available and it shows even more context where Kyron Lacey is driving on the wrong side of the road and could have very easily made the case that he caused the car to swerve and caused the tragic accident. We apologize for adding any more heat and will continue to stay on top of the news breakings in this story because obviously it's tragically sad and involves an athlete's legacy.

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58:12Pat McAfee:It is magical. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it, but it's not just football happening around our glorious sports world. Hockey's taking place. It dropped puck last night. Three star-studded games to kick off an NHL season. That always starts much earlier than we expect, but once it does, there's an opportunity each and every night that there's a game to turn on something magical, something electrifying, something that'll dazzle you and then also entertain you, and then there's a chance a UFC fighter's brother is going to settle a score. whenever somebody is checked a little bit too hard on the ice on opening night.

58:42Pat McAfee:Hop, pow, right in the kisser is a hockey thing that happens. And I think it's a reason why a lot of people potentially like the sport. It's old school. It has a lot of tradition. And if you hit my guy, you are going to get punched in the face. And the refs aren't going to stop it. The refs are actually going to tell everybody, get out of the way. Let the boys figure this out. Okay? Then they'll stick tap. They'll chirp. And then what you'll see in between the whistles is a sport that is so damn hypnotizing with how fast it is and how much talent there is. Hockey's on the rise and it should be.

59:13Pat McAfee:The NHL season has started last night. There's two more games this evening. And the MLB playoffs. No, you could say the MLB playoffs, I think. I think you can let that one slide. These baseball people telling me I can't. Well, fuck them. You can say the MLB playoffs. I didn't say that. I did. Ty did. All-star. That's a good point. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen from Talks to the Table, at Boston Corner and All-Star, Ty Schmidt. Oh, yeah. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, 12-year NFL vet and Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hawk, is here in Tide. Baseball last night was, what's that?

59:46AQ Shipley:What was that?

59:46Pat McAfee:What's that? Oh, my gosh. I'm so sorry that happened. We're just mixing up all the initials. Should have called you TJ. That's 100 % on me. A.Q. Shipley, 12-year Super Bowl champion, player coach, I apologize. Baseball last night, though, was the topic of discussion. Hockey had some moments, obviously, opening night. The Pittsburgh Penguins undefeated. Michael Perfect this year, new coach, Dan Muse, bald head. He literally came in after the game and said, all right, turn on the music and let's get on the road. See you guys next game. That's a beautiful thing. We like that as a veteran team. But the Yankees game last night stole the show.

1:00:20Pat McAfee:And I think even if this game was up against NFL games, I think people would still be finding themselves checking back in. The electricity that oozed from this particular night could potentially carry us all the way through October in baseball. It was everything that was good with baseball. Massive balls, stars showing up, and an environment that was captivating no matter where you're watching or how tired you were because this was a late one. Ty, baseball delivered last night in a big way. So did your Yankees. Yeah, without a doubt. And I think the playoffs as a whole kind of needed something like this because while all the series have been pretty solid so far in the DS round here, there really hasn't been a signature moment.

1:00:59You know, the Phillies and Dodgers series has been very cagey, just kind of not what you'd expect from those two teams. You'd expect more homers. And then this one, like I said, the Yankees have been utterly dominated by the Blue Jays in the first two games. Utterly? Yeah, utterly dominated, if you will. And just as a Yankees fan, as a judge disciple, for him to have that moment because he has been playing so well, but he hasn't been getting very many extra base hits or home runs. That was a moment that at the end of his career, I would imagine, who knows what happens over the next several years that he plays, that will be one of the top three highlights that people go back to regardless of what happens throughout the rest of these playoffs.

1:01:44Pat McAfee:The brink of elimination, the judge all rise. He went crazy. Now they play again tonight, another elimination game. Are the Yankees going to come back and win this thing 3-2? And will this end up on somebody's future Mount Rushmore chokes for this Toronto team? Now, that episode is out now. New Rushmore on X is available with Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Ari Emanuel, and Ben Persky talking about sports, biggest chokes throughout the history of sports. And what it actually is is Bob Costas and Al Michaels telling stories about sports history in a fantastic way. Marvelous storytelling. And a recap of what sports have been, what sports are, and stories that we need to remember.

1:02:20Pat McAfee:It's a fantastic episode. About 40 minutes or so, I think you can lock in. Clips available across all platforms. The entire episode available at Rushmore on X. It is, that's a good show idea. Oh yeah, fantastic. Ari Emanuel, Ben Persky created it. Ari Emanuel, yes. That one, Ari Gold from Entourage Now, chairman of TKO and one of the greatest agents, the greatest agent of all time if you ask him. And I think a lot of people would say it around. And then Ben Persky, record label founder, I believe he's a friend of Ari, also a mentee of Ari in this great conversations. They took the Mount Rushmore idea.

1:02:53Pat McAfee:that has obviously been done before and just brought in the goats of the sports to kind of talk about it. We're lucky that we're a part of it, and the boys busted their ass editing it and putting it together. We're very proud of it, and maybe this Toronto team could join that, maybe if there's a next episode for this. If the Yankees were able to come back. I think the Yankees were already on one of these particular chokes situations, and it wasn't on the right side of history. No, it wasn't. It was actually for the Red Sox, who are no longer around, but even Red Sox fans enjoyed what they saw from the Yankees last night.

1:03:22Pat McAfee:Joining us now is a football guy who sent a text and said, I'm actually watching baseball. This Yankees game, shoot, awesome. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. Hawker, brother, you said, man, I'm even watching the baseball here, and that wouldn't normally happen. Playoff baseball has been incredible. Last night was spectacular. Yeah, that shot that you guys just showed a little bit ago behind the pitcher when Judgey hit that homer, like just 8K, beautiful. you can see the reaction of the pitcher when the ball hits the foul pole.

1:03:52Like, this thing is, look at the fans behind home plate. Like, this was awesome. Getting to see this live and then watching Jazz Chisholm smoke that homer and flip his bat was just, that's all I need. I was like, the Yankees have to win this game. We know that.

1:04:06Pat McAfee:Yeah, take a one-run lead there in the bottom of the fifth. Still a lot of baseball left after these. But these games have been spurts of big innings, right? Hasn't that kind of been the story of the playoffs? There's been like a third inning that's gone crazy, a fifth inning that's gone crazy. This one, the fourth, obviously goes big for the Yankees. That's kind of been the tale of this year's playoffs thus far. Yeah, pretty much. It's like whenever teams have gotten traffic on the base pass, usually that's the type. Like you have to score in those situations because the pitching has been pretty damn dominant throughout all of the playoffs in both leagues.

1:04:35So, yeah, these couple innings where – and the thing that like the Blue Jays, it all started, they gave the Yankees an extra out. There was a pop-up to third base. That inning judge hit the homer. Guy drops it. So they have a runner on first base. Then their leadoff hitter walks, and Judge hits the three-run homer. So they give him four outs, and that's what good teams do. They make you pay.

1:04:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, baseball is great. Also great, Jerry Jones. We haven't really got a chance to chat about this yet, but we have a little bit more information from Jerry Jones' camp on what happened this past weekend at MetLife Stadium. Jerry Jones was caught doing a Brian Tepper move, a David Tepper move, of, you know, in the weight box stadium, waving down, find somebody. You, buddy, I've been listening to you all day. I'm done with that. We went ahead and did that. Jerry Jones came out, and after getting fined$250 ,000 from the NFL for this, and said that it was an unfortunate gesture, and he actually thought it was a thumbs up, I believe.

1:05:33Pat McAfee:Yeah. Thumbs up, maybe a number one, maybe a thumbs up, and that middle finger just controls itself sometimes. Sometimes you got to go ahead and put that thing down like this right here Anytime we get a chance here Jerry talk will certainly do that. Go ahead I'm laying up there in the bed.

1:05:53AQ Shipley:I said the good news is that they say you're gonna live And so don't make me have to come up here and visit with my rubber glove And get you out of that bed Now they took that out

1:06:06Pat McAfee:And I thought it was the best scene in the whole thing So that's from the Landman scene where we know that he won an award. He should win an award for how he acted in there with Billy Bob and somebody else. John Hampton. And basically tells a story about, you know, doing business with his family and what they have here and how special it is. And to be honest, almost a tear to your eye listening to Jerry do this. And he did it all in one take, obviously. But even in that particular take, that middle finger of his just couldn't. He wanted to put on rubber gloves. That thing starts dancing out there, you know.

1:06:36Pat McAfee:And we've heard other older folks say that certain words or things just, I just, for some reason, my mouth can't stop saying it. Jerry basically came out and said, my finger just, even when I want to do a thumbs up, my middle finger just, it's an outlaw. I don't know what to tell you. So we appreciate to get that$250 ,000 fine. Where's this money go? We don't know. How's it, who knows? But we know that the NFL said Jerry can't do that anymore, which we respect. I would appeal. I would appeal if I'm Jerry. I don't care how many billions he has. You're finding me$250K for a blurry shot of me possibly flicking some dude off from the other team.

1:07:11Like, come on.

1:07:12Pat McAfee:That's something you used to do all the time. I was playful and fun. It was never out of, like, anger or anything. Well, his was, too. You see, he pointed. And he meant to thumbs up if you listen to him or maybe a number one. But instead, that middle finger can't help itself. Now, you want to talk about one finger going somewhere? You go ahead and take that thing right to the sky. Especially whenever you're talking about a man that's about to join us in just a matter of moments Ladies and gentlemen down there in Perth, Australia on Saturday There's gonna be an ass beating of an Australian man Named Brunson Reed And it's gonna be done by a man who's a six-time world champion Let me make sure I get these stats right Because they are prolific AJ, did you hear that?

1:07:54Pat McAfee:Six-time world champion, exactly One of those was for 1 ,316 days. My God. This man is a career Grand Slam champion. He's a 2015 Royal Rumble winner. And oh yeah, in 2006, he was first team All-ACC. No big deal. Ladies and gentlemen, our tribal chief, the head of the table, we're Roman Reigns. Yeah!

1:08:32What a transition, huh? What a segue from the middle finger to the pointer finger. Love it.

1:08:38Pat McAfee:Well, Jerry did it, you know, and it wasn't supposed to go that way, but live in real time, I thought to myself, if there's only one finger that needs to fly, it's one to the sky, and it's certainly acknowledging our tribal chief. It's great to have you back in the world, brother. How is it? I see TC1. Okay, I like the shirts. I'm looking to buy those immediately. We love everything about it. And now you're heading to Australia to do a little ass beating. How's the body feel? How do you feel leading up just a few days before the big match with Bronson Reed, who, hey, he's broken both of his own ankles jumping off the top of things, okay?

1:09:11Pat McAfee:He's looking to smash you, dude. How do you feel, Roman? Goat heading to Australia just a few days. I feel like crap. My body does not feel good. I was down there not too long ago. The flight, you know, back and forth has not been nice. I've been jet-lagged for, I feel like, four weeks in a row now. Um, so why not just go down there and try to kill myself? So it is what it is. You know, we're going to go just head against the wall, Goldberg style, you know, just reckless abandon. And, uh, yeah, you can't do much worse than, than I feel now. So let's just go mess it up physically. Okay. So you're not at your best.

1:09:50Pat McAfee:I don't love that. Okay. Not at your best, but you don't need. I wouldn't say that. I don't, yeah, this is like you. I'm a, I'm a live performer. I can do it at any given moment. It doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? I'm always at a hundred. Yeah, you're right. We're always at the 10 is, you know what I'm saying? We live at a 12, so the 10 will always be easy. Yeah, because it doesn't really matter how you feel. Whenever you're in there, you're the goat, obviously. So get a half. Well, yeah, you go through the curtain. You know what that, I mean, you could be selling a broken leg back there.

1:10:18But as soon as the music hits, as soon as you go through that black curtain, it's like a, you know, it's like a shot in the arm.

1:10:26Pat McAfee:How cool does it feel whenever you do this in just the entire place? every city every single city goes and does the same exact thing that i don't want to say power but that is certainly pot that's right that has to feel pretty incredible as long as they do it with me yeah as long as they do it with me we're good to go what if it's that other thing what if it's that jerry jones which could be down in australia here with the local guy you know bronson reed australian guy now i know you just talked about being down there i feel you were shooting street fighter uh i believe you're in that movie or in australia 16 hour flight obviously it's a long way to the opposite side of the world how do you feel uh how are you going to handle that how are you going to handle you know the the long travel the uh what's it called whenever your body clock's completely off uh jet lag how are you going to handle that do you have ideas i assume a man of your stature of your legacy i assume we got ivs in a plane i assume we got a full meal plan i assume we got the workout happening how are you addressing that when is your travel and uh What is kind of the next steps for you as we lead into that?

1:11:26Well, I'll fly out tonight. Travel for this will be much, much kinder than it was for the movie. But, you know, we're working on that. You know, you got to pay your dues. You got to build your equity. And brother was on the commercial flight, just living life, you know, amongst the people. It was great. But, no, this is much, much better. G6, what, G650 on the way out there. one stop for gas and then we're right to perth um and then we hit the ground running like i said you know there's no real way to combat this jet lagged tired run down feeling um all you can do is just try to you know keep your immune system as high as possible like you said get a banana bag in if you can bite them and see it up um and don't bitch about it let's just keep moving forward and just try to hit the ground running, try to keep some momentum.

1:12:18As I get there, I want to say Friday in the late morning, probably around this time, Friday. So we'll kind of time travel in the next 24 to 30 hours and then just hit the ground and hope for the best.

1:12:32Pat McAfee:I appreciate the fact that you're a humble travel chief and you will fly commercial, but for this one, obviously we need you locked in in that G650. Thank you for making a business this year. This isn't because you're high maintenance at all. No, this is not because you want to fly private. You wish you could fly commercial, but this is locked in. We got business, obviously, to handle. We need to. I did not say that. I did not. We don't ever want to fly commercial. We have to. We have to. It is what it is. You know what I'm saying? And no, no, no. Ain't nothing about being bougie or high maintenance.

1:13:02Business is business. You know what I'm saying? I have to. I set the tone and the standard for the next guy up. So if I start slumming it, then the next guy is going to slum. We're progressing here, man. Like I said, everybody gets escalated. Everybody gets lifted when the travel chief's around.

1:13:18Pat McAfee:Rising tides lift all boats. Let's talk about Jey Uso. Seems like there's been a little bit of, I don't want to say, a baton passing, obviously. Ulofala. Ulofala. But that hasn't happened. Obviously, that's a big deal. I'm not talking about that. But it feels like he has his eyes on a little bit more. It feels like you also see a little something in him. How is that kind of working out? And how is it to see the Usos back and you with them? uh it feels like glory days almost right well i mean i i don't know about all that and i don't know about you know handing down the the mantle i i i don't i don't know if anybody can actually handle that responsibility that obligation but uh agreed much no jay um i i look i i saw this from the beginning nobody you know what i mean like just like sammy i i seen you know this this a beautiful opportunity with NJ a long time ago.

1:14:08And we're just now kind of seeing that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow with him. But there's so much more left to do with him. There's so many more accolades and more opportunities for him to capitalize on it. And that's what I'm saying is like, he got there. That's one of the hard parts. But the hardest part is staying there. The hardest part is staying relevant and staying at the tip, tip, tip, tip, tip top of the mountain to be able to breathe at that altitude and to do it like I did for, what did you say, 13, 16? You know what I'm saying? So I wish he would listen to me a lot better.

1:14:50I wish his brother would just shut up and listen to me as well. It would make life a lot easier because at the end of the day, I got the proof of concept. I'm the one who's mapped this thing out. I'm the one who needs to, that understands how to get back to, you know, the new, you know, the new land. I'm the only one that can cross the ocean and come back. So I'm the only one that understands how to navigate these waters. And I just wish they would listen to me.

1:15:13Pat McAfee:Yeah. And, you know, sometimes leadership isn't respected or appreciated in the moments that they need it. But Jimmy's listening. Jimmy's hearing. And whenever the moment comes to the moment, Jimmy will do the right thing. Right? Yeah. Jimmy will listen. Same with Jay. Same with Jay. They'll listen to you. You're a tribal chief. the right thing bloodline that's objective right you over here the right thing and the right thing in WWE that's I don't even that's like I don't even know if that makes sense you know like that's like trying to be a good guy in the shark tank you know what I mean try to be the good guy in the ocean you want to be Rose or Jack you want to live or not you know what I mean put me on the door yeah and there was enough room there was enough room there's not enough that's the beautiful thing about there's not enough room in wwe there's not enough real estate you have to get what is yours and that's what i'm trying to teach these guys that's what i'm trying to like learn them boys is you have to take it now because every this ain't hollywood there's no number one like nobody can try to put it there i can try to put it there but everybody's trying to take these spots everybody's trying to come up nobody cares if you're doing good today that's how the wwe is It's not like Hollywood where they put a number on us and everybody serves the top spot.

1:16:31Everybody's here to make one and two look really good. They don't care if I look good. They want the good life here. They want to be in the promised land. It's not the titles. It's this space that I'm speaking of.

1:16:44Pat McAfee:Yeah, the G650 down to Perth. Yeah, yeah. I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We understand what you're speaking of. And obviously, that is why the WWE has been great for so long because there's so much competition within the company to get these prime spots and this man held it down through the hardest time in the history of the business when there was no fans took it to new heights billions and billions and billions in dollars in revenue but there was one person that was next to you then that seemingly hasn't been for some time now and he's got a huge brain this man go ahead con man yeah tc1 i acknowledge as always and you know you mentioned real estate there's not enough real estate brother because it's all yours uh but when you're thinking about what this weekend is going to hold have you thought about the wise man at all is there any sort of feelings about what he might try and uh do during your match i would say anything that i need to be worried about he's doing right now when we get out there physically in that capacity never worried about the old man you know what i mean it is what it is i choked him out last time where i you know just him getting in the bubble he already understands that but any type of you know layered plan any any type of foil that he's trying to plan at this point I think it's it's being game planned um you know in the forefront so just got to be ready for everything he I mean he taught me so much I sat under his learning tree I caught shade for a long time so anything that he's teaching all these other guys he's already you know what I mean just you know and sure he's long-winded so he'll keep on telling his stories you know what i mean he'll he'll come back to him so um i i've like a sponge absorbed so much from from the former wise man that i think he's gone dumb now i don't think he took it all yeah i think i think yeah it's become one of those situations you know i've uh i've become the master oh i like to hear that because that happens in a lot and ask too you can ask ask the twins when we were on these you know years ago on these flights doing you know same thing to Saudi I'd sit there and I'd listen to him I'd sit there and I'd take counsel I'd sit there and hear his stories and sometimes yeah he'd forget he told me a story and he'd tell me again but I'd listen to it again just to see you know what I mean if the you know the the mantra the the the moral of the story was the same or if there's another little piece of information he's a very he's a very wise soul um so you so you got to be smart when you're when you're around someone like that because you can learn so much yeah no detail unnoticed from our tribal chief you want to tell me a story three four times i'll certainly be listening to new details so that i can get better and then also all that information and knowledge i'm going to take from you and you're going to start making bad decisions wise man he actually said uh if this doesn't go well down crown jewel i'm gonna have to ask myself why i picked you over roman reign so he's already having a little bit of dot Okay, so he's already starting to...

1:19:42Pat McAfee:Oh, my God, he's yearning for the days when he was riding over there, Relevancy Island, you know, when he was living the high life with the tribal chief, and now he's over there with the vision going, you know what my vision is now? How the hell do I get out of here? So, big times and all. It just got off a charter with, like, 80 people, probably, just wetting it up, you know what I'm saying? That's not the good life. It's not bad, but it's not the good life. It's not the promised land. Yeah, it's not life around. You know what I'm talking about. I do.

1:20:16Pat McAfee:That's right. I acknowledge. That's right. Yeah, no questions. Rare air, baby. It is. And you were breathing it for a long time. Well, also, others were trying to yeet. It's like, can you yeet up at that altitude? We shall see. I know I couldn't. I was getting blown up every single week as Jay was riding this wave to the top. AJ has a question for you, Tribal Chief. Yeah, speaking of rare air, what you have done and been at the top for so long, I wonder. It reminds me of, like, Tiger Woods. It's how long he held world number one just for astronomical amounts of time, everyone taking shots at him trying to get his top spot.

1:20:46Have you reached out ever to anyone in other sports, say, like Tom Brady during his run, all these guys that may be the top of their sport, and try to, like, say, hey, how do you do it? How do you handle this when everyone's trying to come get your spot? Good question. No, I never – outside of probably talking to, like, Dwayne, you know, Johnson. Of course. I was down here in Miami. So I was thinking maybe Wade or whatever. He's won some championships. Yeah, he's won some championships down here. But no, I haven't had the privilege of talking to any of those guys. But I definitely studied that.

1:21:24You know what I mean? I've definitely watched, you know, Michael Jordan, Tiger, Tom Brady, all these guys. everybody you know the goats of their space of their sport of their skill um i think it's it's it's an easy watch i mean espn they have so many documentaries all the 30 for 30s so you can kind of dive into that and and look into the psyche of what these guys were thinking or feeling what they're going through a lot of times too they're going through a lot of you know they're going through some shit in real life they're going through personal personal stuff too which is interesting because a lot of these guys actually are to be able to chase and focus on the greatness while your life is going nuts um that's a that's a skill in its own right but um yeah i definitely studied and i've said this before like as i'm sure you boys have done yourselves because you've all achieved you know a very high success rate in in your own lanes um you take pages from people's playbooks you see somebody doing something seamlessly oh man like you know rock uh cena um you know older guys than me like randy orton um ray mysterio all the way back to you know someone i didn't get a much much time with the undertaker bob back yeah there we go obviously he's pulling stuff from bob backland for sure yeah why not hey pop out them steps and get some cardio in um but yeah they all everybody's got something that they do just like man that's so smart why where did you figure that out and and then you know you just steal that and that's all it is just stealing plays like football it's copycat you know what i mean you just take what you like and make it your own and then all of a sudden they're singing your praises yeah stealing

1:23:08Pat McAfee:learning you know it's all different types of conversations because you make it into your own and i think anybody that's at the top is obviously a big time learner and committed to getting better every single day, which you certainly have and continue to do. You got that dog trait that takes you to the top. That's because you're a football guy. We love that. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, my tribal chief, I know how busy you are, so I'm not sure how much you've been able to pay attention to your alma mater. But, boy, I'll tell you what, Georgia Tech is humming right now, undefeated in the ACC. Is Georgia Tech going to win the ACC this year?

1:23:41Are we thinking, hey, the playoffs are coming and Haynes King and the boys are going to be there? You down in Miami right now? I don't know. I don't want to jinx it. The moment I start running my mouth, my teams do not perform well. So we're just going to enjoy what, you know, hey, if you want to play good football, excuse me, if you want to be successful in life, if you want to be a part of something after football quits you because it quits all of us, unless you're fortunate enough to keep talking about it after you're done, you want to be a part of this Georgia Tech community. You want to be a part of this Georgia Tech fraternity.

1:24:18We're winners, man. And I want to say at least 25 to 30 percent of us are easy millionaires. So that's something we've been doing before the social media game, before there became all these different avenues to create revenue. We were at the groundwork and, you know, starting with just geniuses. You know what I mean? Engineers just getting it done. And the ones who aren't engineers, we're taught how to run them. You know what I'm saying? We're taught how to employ them and manage them. in one of the greatest markets of Atlanta. So if you're not buying what I'm selling at this point, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, that's the place to be because that's what taught me how to, Pensacola could only do so much.

1:24:57I love Pensacola, Florida, the panhandle. It taught me how to be a young man, but Georgia Tech and Atlanta taught me how to be a grown man. So please join, membership has its privileges, boys.

1:25:10Pat McAfee:Ty asked you, he said, I don't know how much you're paying attention to. He understands everything's recruiting. He just dropped into a recruiting pitch for Georgia Tech immediately. 25%, 30 % of us become billionaires. You're not getting my money, but I will push you. It's valuable. Football, obviously WWE. Now, you just talked about being in Australia. You have a huge role in Street Fighter. D-Butt has a question for you.

1:25:34AQ Shipley:Absolutely. We all grew up playing Street Fighter. That's a big, big opportunity. Can't wait to see it. But how has balancing being a WWE superstar and being a big Hollywood star, How has that been so far? You mentioned talking to Dwayne Johnson before. Have you leaned on him or some other guys and just how has that been? Well, no, I mean, man, it was so busy going back and forth and trying to get through Paris and then get to the point of getting down there. My kids, you know, they're all in school right now. And so, you know, we're in the false. We're in the thick of it. so I didn't get a chance to tap into anybody but that's one thing I did do is when I was down on Hobbs and Shaw I was able to like I said just absorb everything and just kind of monitor and just you know download as much of the process as possible and that helped me out a lot when I got down there and also too the things that I didn't like about my experience or maybe my attitude in in the last project or two that I've done and just different ways to, um, you know, psychologically, um, prepare myself for a different process because that, that's, that was the biggest thing.

1:26:46I'm so used to my WWE bubble. I'm so used to that process and being live and jetting in and jetting out, you know, having the bus and having my own little, you know, my own little creative space. Um, so I had to just kind of rewire myself to be ready for a different process. But yeah, man, it was fun. It was a good time. And there was that one little moment in time where I was like, man, this is kind of what being a movie star feels like. You know what I mean? Being in that little bubble, it was cool. And it's interesting because everything I've learned in WWE, everything they've taught me, all these skills that I've acquired and I've sharpened, they all translate.

1:27:25Pat McAfee:Yeah. Selling, giving, delivering, remembering, adjusting. everything carries over. I think you're going to be massive star, dude. Because, you know, I don't have to tell you this. You already know. You have a mirror. This dude is wildly attractive. Okay? It is our... Yeah. And I know you used to be a vest boy. Okay? You used to be a little bit, you know, Oos used to get a little comfortable. That's a deep tackle, man. That was chubby. You know what I mean? Holding water. Holding water. Just athletic as all hell, though. Holding water. And that's how he views himself, I think, still as that fat guy.

1:28:01Pat McAfee:And then he walks out, and he's just like 4 % body fat and the whole place is like, what the fuck is that thing that just walked out here, which is great. That was last month, though. That was last. It's Oktoberfest, baby. We're coming in watery. That's good. You got Bunsen Reed. You're going to need that. It's Sam Adams' fault. Oh, man. Every time it comes around, the fall comes around, football's happening. It's my favorite. I loved you here and I'm used to the WWE process. You know, jetting in, I got a bus, my own little creative bubble and then I kind of jet out of there. Movie, we're on a commercial thing.

1:28:33Pat McAfee:Okay, we're at somebody else's movie set. All right, I guess I'll adapt to the process here and we will still try to crush it. I can't wait to watch you master that lane just like you mastered WWE. And if you would have stuck with football, we all assume you'd end up in the Hall of Fame for that as well. We appreciate you, man. Thank you for joining us. Safe travels down to Australia. Thank you, fellas. Appreciate you all for having me. That's right. Always. Ladies and gentlemen. Our tribal chief. The only tribal chief. TC1. Rogan Renz. Thank you, Rogan. Yay, Rogan. A little different process down there for that movie.

1:29:13Pat McAfee:You know, I'm a six-time world champion. I was champion for 1 ,360 days. You know, WWE. I know exactly where the food is. Everybody kind of knows where I'm going. We all understand what we're all looking for around here. I got this movie set. Okay, we're in somebody else's playground all of a sudden. You don't care. I'm running 1 ,300. yes oh really yeah who gives a shit your call time's in eight hours okay we need you and also here's your trailer same size everybody else's it is the movie world i got a chance to experience it a little bit there with mosquito bowl when i went over there and uh it's very similar though to a team like you know it's very similar to like a football team who's the coach who's running shit operations yada yada everybody has to come together everybody has a job and uh managing it all is crazy those movies insane that street fighter when they had like 10 celebs in it yeah so that involves everybody's people as well a little on shooting and everything everybody's people think about that managing everybody's people that would be tough going to australia to getting enough space and then australia if it's anything like what it was for mosquito bowl australia provides the production companies the trucks everything like that the extras they are for the movie that i was at for what 11 days i was there let alone they're still shooting They've been over there a long time.

1:30:25Pat McAfee:It's a full family. They've been going through like an entire season. All the Aussie people were awesome, just like wanting to help do whatever they can. And they all got such sweet accents. Yeah. You know, the sweet accents are always such a good thing. Congrats to Roman Reigns. Bronson Reed, Roman Reigns, this is a huge night for Bronson. Yeah. I mean, this is the biggest night of Bronson Reed's life. Without a doubt. In his home country. Home game, yeah. Got to have to do it. Not a cage match, is it? He's not going off the top of a cage match. Okay. Just making sure. What do you mean? What are you saying that for?

1:30:55Because the last time we saw him do that, we saw both of his shin bones explode out of his legs, you know, like a goddamn horror movie.

1:31:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, but he'd be willing to do that, which is what you have to know, you know, is that that's who you're taking on. When that tsunami comes, there's a chance that you're going to get splatted, and he might as well. And Roman understands what he's in for. OBJ went on the pivot and disclosed that he's going to be serving a six-game BED suspension. We'd like to tell him, hey, OBJ, Everything you've done for football thus far. Great, brother. Hell yeah. Thank you. I think coming out and addressing it is the smart play. Seemed like he was at peace a little bit on that particular Pivot podcast. And then I think he also mentioned in there, I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire conversation, I certainly will, about playing for the Giants again.

1:31:39Pat McAfee:So now we wait to see what Odell Beckham's future looks like. But a guy who's become a megastar in our world is now facing a six-game PD. I think he said, you know, he obviously regretted it all and talked about what kind of got lost and stuff. He was a very transparent Odell Beckham Jr. on the pivot. And what are your thoughts on him, the player, at this point? And how should we think of OBJ?

1:32:01AQ Shipley:You know, he hasn't been what we remember him to be, like, his peak, obviously, for a while. He talked about his time in Miami where he was kind of maybe halfway in, halfway out. You spend so much time in the building. And a guy like him, you mentioned, being a megastar. when we were playing, he was, I would say, easily the most popular football player in the world. You know what I mean? Probably outside of the quarterback, maybe Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, those guys, but, like, he was right in that atmosphere, and we'd never really seen that from a guy. But as far as a football player on the field, you know, at this point we have to see it, you know, see it to believe it.

1:32:34AQ Shipley:But Odell, he's a freak show of an athlete. If he has had his time off to get fully healthy, who knows what, you know, environment he can go in and compete. Now him and the Giants, that's surprising. You know, I know he loves the place. That's where it all started. But, you know, got a young quarterback. I would expect him maybe like the Rams situation.

1:32:50Pat McAfee:I think he likes the moxie of 44-6. I think he likes the moxie of the boys over there in day ball. Sure, yeah, sure. There's a chance. You know, thinking about him on PEDs is crazy, just if you go back to his prime because what he was doing. Like, imagine if he was to juice up then. Like, what the hell? What would have been happening? Dude, he was so outrageous. I played catch with him at the Pro Bowl, and he won. Like, I didn't even know he could play catch. I'm throwing him the ball and just like insane catch every single time he's throwing I have no idea how I became the person playing catch with him I think I was out on the field kicking he came out early for warm-ups normal equipment crew that might throw or backup quarterback that might throw through him is not out there so literally I kick a ball he comes over spins one kicks one like a 50-yard field goal makes it yeah it was insane it was absolutely insane just spinning the ball makes a brand new football too should not have went that far no problem he makes it and And then just like a ball just gets thrown and then gets thrown back.

1:33:43Pat McAfee:All of a sudden I'm playing catch with Odell Beckham Jr. Oh, this is sick. Okay. So let's go ahead and miss a little high here. You know what I mean? It was like I got to see and experience it. And obviously everybody else was watching as well. And it was like this guy's winning a game of catch right now just because of how filthy he is. Hands. Yeah. So big. Just outrageous talent what he was able to do with football. Obviously that catch is what everybody's going to remember him for and the biggest market and the biggest game and everything like that. But he was explosive for a long time, AJ, OBJ.

1:34:12He was crazy competitive, too. That's what you remember, like how that dude would compete with anybody going back and forth. And, I mean, for young kids, everyone, I don't know how many generations it'll go, but you make a one-handed catch, like it's an OBJ. Like even six-year-old kids now, they say that.

1:34:26Pat McAfee:Joining us now is a man that might be changing how we call things forever as well. He's a rookie in the NFL. He's already leading the NFL in a lot of different categories. He's been a player of a month already. There's talking about him being the favorite for the offensive rookie of the year. And coming out of Ohio State, there wasn't a lot of fanfare about him because this guy doesn't care, just likes the ball. And they love him in Tampa Bay. Ladies and gentlemen, the explosive Emeka Buka. Yeah! How are you, dude? What up? How are you guys doing? I'm doing good. Hey, we're great. Thank you so much for joining us.

1:34:58Pat McAfee:Are you an Adidas athlete? I am. I'm an Adidas athlete. Bro, they're giving money to everybody. They're trying to get into football. It feels like Adidas is trying to get into football for real. And we appreciate that, that Adidas is getting in, Nike's in. And I think Adidas is saying, we picked the right guy here, A &U. Let's chitchat about how this has gone thus far from our perspective. A.J. Hawk, obviously Ohio State legend, much like yourself. He has a tree on campus. You certainly will have a tree on campus at some point. And you might be the president of Ohio like A.J. Hawk was a couple years ago.

1:35:28Pat McAfee:But at Ohio State, you're always like the number two wide receiver or number three wide receiver that was in topic of conversation. always did your job, never bitched at all. I think AJ actually said, a mecca bucca whenever he gets into the NFL is going to be a guy. It has certainly been that. Do you think your journey through Ohio State, how it went, has prepared you for this type of situation being in the NFL? And have you always been like the most mature guy of all time, basically, to handle all of these things? So the first part of your question, yeah, I think Ohio State has, you know, made me ready for my NFL career in a lot of ways.

1:36:01I think something that the wide receiver room at Ohio State, prize ourself on is, you know, having three wide receiver ones at any given time. So we have all the ability to be able to dominate any given game. And we're all super confident in that ability. And just being in that room for so many years and competing with those guys day by day just made me into such a better football player. That was part of the reason that I went to Ohio State was because, you know, I was a five star top 10 recruit, you know, number one wide receiver in my class, all that type of stuff. and could have gone anywhere.

1:36:34Bama, Clemson was hot at the time when I was coming out. But I wanted to go to Ohio State because I knew that that receiver room was special and I wanted to grow my ability and not just see the field right away. I knew I needed to actually push myself because I have big goals for my future in the NFL.

1:36:55Pat McAfee:See, that's a super mature way of looking as a 17-year-old, 18-year-old. So that goes back to the end of my thing. Yes, you've always been mature throughout it all. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, in that receiver room, we always hear about Brian Hartline. So I actually played with Hartline. I knew firsthand that guy is an absolute stud on the field and as a recruiter and a coach he is. But what separates him and Ryan Day, you think, as coaches, that kind of continues? We know everybody has talent, but you guys just continue, you know, three, four, five deep. It doesn't matter who they can throw to at Ohio State.

1:37:23You guys are going to get it done. Like, what separates them, do you think, as coaches? I think a lot of the success that you see from the Ohio State receivers is a reflection of Coach Harline's mentality. And it's not that he made us that way, but he recruits like-minded individuals, people who are perfectionists and want the most out of their career that they can get. And in some senses, Coach Hart kind of expects more out of you than you expect of yourself sometimes. So he believes in all of us and all of our ability to be able to succeed and do everything that we want to do. And he puts so much into coaching us and making us know what we need to know to go out there and execute.

1:38:07Pat McAfee:That was at Ohio State and then now at Tampa Bay. I think Baker said you said something during the spring that blew his mind. He's like, wait a minute, this might be a guy. You've been one of his go-tos. And there's some stats that Hembo sent us over. And you have two 50-yard catches, only wide receiver with more than one thus far in the season. and seven 25-yard catches, that's most in the NFL, and five touchdown catches, average 33 yards. I mean, you are explosive in every facet, and you make insane catches look very easy, and you're always open. It's not supposed to be like this for rookies in the NFL.

1:38:37Pat McAfee:It's supposed to be a grown man's league. You're supposed to struggle a little bit. Instead, we're seeing the best football from you and also the best football from Baker, but they're not the only ones. AQ has a question for you as a former Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneer. Yeah, I played with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans down there. How has having them in the room, veteran leaders as well as Baker, helped you transition in your rookie season? It's been super instrumental in my success. Obviously, the reason, you know, part of the reason I was the first round pick is because of my natural talent and my ability that God gave me.

1:39:11But just the confidence that they put into me, just really on the mental side of things, just making sure I know my job. They're always they always have an open ear for me to ask any question. I'm a big question asker, so I probably annoy them with how much I ask, but they're always ready to answer and give me the real. and they just pump so much confidence into me. Mike is a dude who's constantly in my ear telling me, you were built for this, you can do this, you were made for this. You're that guy. And just having someone like that, a Hall of Famer, who believes in you to that type of level, just makes you go out on the field and really ball out and do what you were made to do.

1:39:47Pat McAfee:You're certainly doing that. And believing in yourself and believing in your team is potentially why you guys have four fourth-quarter comebacks this season to start the year. The culture there is seemingly great, especially with what you just said about Mike Evans relaying to you, a man who could potentially take the mantle of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver for the next 15 years like Mike Evans has been able to do. No pettiness, no jealousy. Instead, it's the complete opposite, gassing you up. I love that. And your quarterback has been doing the same thing except for one particular time.

1:40:18Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Mecca, a couple weeks ago, and Pat mentioned it, you've had one to two highlight reel catches almost every single week. but a couple weeks ago you had a sick one-handed catch, and I think we got some audio of Baker basically telling you, like, hey, Rook, you know, use two hands, okay? You're making my ball look less pretty by making a one-handed catch. At this point now, a couple weeks removed from that, have you gotten – do you have carte blanche now where it's basically like if Bake's going to throw it to you, it's like, hey, Bake, shut up. I'm going to snag this thing, and there's a good chance I'm going to score.

1:40:52How has that gone? No, I mean, our relationship is great. You know, if you guys get a chance to talk to him, you can ask him. But like ever since that, sometimes I'll just one hand something in practice just to just look at him and laugh. But no, we have a great relationship. You know, it's all you know, we're joking around, we're having fun. And that's really what it's about at the end of the day. Like we're having fun playing football and in the high stress situation in the lives that we live. Sometimes you can lose that a little bit. Obviously, winning is the most fun is the most fun thing.

1:41:22But just to be able to ball with your boys like you used to is, you know, something that we really enjoy.

1:41:28Pat McAfee:Did you enjoy Baker in that Seattle Seahawks fan? We loved it. We loved the little sauce that he still has. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he was balling. He was balling. You know, I'm from Seattle, so it's been a lifelong dream of mine to play in that stadium. and to have a guy like that go out there with some fire and talk to the historic fan who's always there at the opposing tunnel. It just got the whole team going. Obviously, his performance speaks for itself, and he's just a baller. Don't wake him up, I think is the thing. And I talked about this yesterday. It's like teams might need to send out emails to season ticket holders and people that are going to be there like, hey, we just don't talk to the quarterback.

1:42:11Pat McAfee:Don't echo Baker. Yeah. Actually, bring signs pro, Baker. Baker, welcome to town. Great to have you. BYU was doing that at WVU. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. They're making them ice cream and singing their songs. Wow. We went out there. Then he beat us by 50. I mean, it was unbelievable. Good ball club. Very hospitable. As is Ohio State. We don't have to get into it. We got a number one wide receiver in the country saying, I want to go to that place because there's other number one wide receivers. I'll tell you what, West Virginia would die to have that. We really enjoy to have that type of situation happening in our particular locker room.

1:42:43Pat McAfee:Now, let's talk about you and football, your football life. Go ahead, D-Butt.

1:42:46AQ Shipley:Yeah, Mackey, you talked about your upbringing in Seattle. I think I heard in the broadcast about your spectacular baseball career growing up. You won pitch, hit, and run. Started getting college offers pretty early. Then after COVID, I believe a couple seasons were canceled, you committed, I guess, fully to football. How was that decision made? Obviously, it worked out. You said you were five-star, number one wide receiver in the country coming out as well. But how did that, I guess, final decision, how did that work out to be just straight football? Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was less of a decision and more of just like baseball just finding its way out of my life.

1:43:22You know, I still, I love the game of baseball. You know, still miss it from time to time. But, you know, I played my freshman in my sophomore year in high school than COVID hit. my junior year was entirely canceled I played for a select baseball team in the summer all my summer tournaments were canceled and then senior year rolls around and I early committed to Ohio State and you know I could have played baseball at Ohio State I had you know the opportunity I talked to the baseball coach and everything and you know once I got there kind of got a got a grasp of the football schedule I was like you know what I'm gonna stick to one sport how old were you when you

1:44:01AQ Shipley:started getting those offers i saw a report online it was ai overview and they said eight years old baseball yeah i don't know how true that is but you must have been hit start getting offers nah i don't think i had any official offers when i was eight but um you know football offers started coming in when i was 14 um and then you know from those various schools who offered me for football i'll get in touch with their their baseball coaches as well and kind of chop it up but But, you know, at high school and all my travel tournaments and stuff like that, I had MLB scouts in there and stuff there.

1:44:35So it was pretty cool at a young age.

1:44:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, we assume it would have worked out if that would have happened. Can I ask you about your junior, senior year being COVID years? Because we talk about your generation. I want to let you know that our show, I'm 38 years old. We got everywhere from 24, 25 to 41 on our show, basically is our range. And we had a vastly different life, obviously, than the group right after us growing up. but your generation the covid high school life forming friendship forming societal interaction forming years just kind of taken away from you like do you look back on those years like what do you take away from those you baseball ends up out of your life i don't know about like homecoming and prom and like all the things that also got taken away but do you just try not to think about it or do you have like you look back on and say like well it was actually good for me because of this?

1:45:23Pat McAfee:Like, is that how you try to spin it? How do you kind of view it? Because you're the first person from that generation that I'm getting to ask this question. So know that whatever you say, I'm going to take with me for the rest of my life. Okay, no pressure. Yeah. I mean, I can't speak for everybody. You know, everyone has their own experience and everything like that. For me, you know, COVID was, it was strange at first. They were kind of really strict on all the rules and, you know, wear your mask everywhere and you can't travel to other people's houses. So like I remember I was locked up in the house for a little bit and I was like, yo, this is crazy.

1:45:54So I was just doing school from home and everything like that. But kind of as we got a grasp of what it was and got an understanding of it for me personally, like my schedule was all the way messed up in COVID. Like I didn't have to sleep, go to sleep early to go to school and everything like that. My schedule, like I still remember it to this day. I would wake up at like 11 or noon and then I would go to I would go to my first workout, which was like a wide receiver training with my wide receiver coach. Come back, get some lunch. Then I go to lift, come back, do my homework. And then like from there on, I was like, you know, on the game playing Call of Duty with my friends and stuff like that, just staying up like all hours of the night because I didn't have to wake up for school.

1:46:37So, like, my schedule was definitely a little messed up, but I spent a lot of time, like, playing football. Like, I really did. I spent so much time playing football. Like, I didn't have to go to school. I was meeting with my wide receiver coach every day, honing my craft, getting strong in the gym. Like, that was the strongest I was was during COVID. Like, I came in my freshman year and, you know, I was benching, I don't know, I did, like, 225 for 14, like, as a freshman just coming in, like, just knocked them out. And obviously, I got stronger throughout my college career, but, like, I was strong when I came into Ohio State.

1:47:10Pat McAfee:You're a professional athlete in the offseason through COVID. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to game a little bit. Yeah. Just keep it down, go a big one, and, like, maybe some popcorn as well. You know, and then wake up at 11. All right, let's get the first workout at the end of the day. Let's go work on some technique. Let's go ahead and get a lift in. Hop, we got to do school, they said. Got an email here. All right, I'll take this test. Let me go through this. when I went to Ohio State they didn't require any ACT any SAT none of that was required to actually get into school so like I kind of just had my offer Ohio State huh?

1:47:43Pat McAfee:that wasn't Ohio State now it all makes sense we got professional athletes coming out of COVID benching 225 14 times no ACT no SAT come on in here yeah we got all the number ones that we need geez Ryan Day is doing it right over there and so are you man it's been an honor to watch you honestly learn about your story more and more and then watch you just kind of dominate the nfl while also doing that in college i think you have multiple ohio state records but you were never the one that was being like heralded so you literally just had to sit there and watch your best friends get a lot of shine shine and just kind of go through it i'll block downfield i'll do whatever i got to do and now you're in the nfl and you're the superstar dude you've earned it you deserve it and we're happy for you I appreciate you.

1:48:27Thanks for having me.

1:48:28Pat McAfee:Adidas picked the right one, man, didn't he? Yeah, they did. Yes, they did. Hey, if you know anybody at Adidas, let them know. We love ball two. We love ball two. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Emeka Abuka. Yeah. Let's head over to Hammer. Don. Don. What does he have? He has the most yards in Ohio State history. Is that what Emeka Abuka's record is?

1:48:45Darius Butler:I think it's the most receptions and yards. If I had to. Two hundred and some receptions, I believe. Yeah. Yeah.

1:48:51Pat McAfee:And AJ, he was literally, we had Jackson Smith and Jigba, Marvin Harrison Jr. and Garrett Wilson in there. They were the ones. JSN, too. Yeah, they were the ones. Oh, you said that. Yeah, it's okay. With McLaurin in there, too? You're a hammered dime time. I heard it. It was the first one, yeah. Yeah, Terry McLaurin maybe before him. Maybe before him. I love it. I love it. I love it, maybe. But he was never the guy that was talked about. So it's like, this guy's a superstar, but he's not the guy. So I guess we just won't talk about him. And he didn't care, AJ. You've got to love that as an Ohio State Buckeye alumni.

1:49:22Pat McAfee:I like that's what Ryan Day selling almost and they're actually living up to it. That's beautiful thing. Yeah, it is. And people internally and you talk to any coaches or anyone affiliated with the program, they would tell you about Emeka always from the jump from when he got on campus. So, yeah, he was a special kid from the from the beginning. But yeah, it's they got a good thing going there. I'd say in the receiver room, hopefully they keep it going. I'll never forget it. I woke up around 11 noonish, I guess. Have a little breakfast. Awesome situation. Me and my wide receiver coach there's a lot of negatives yeah there are from that era but from a strictly become a professional athlete standpoint sure there's some positives out of this thing working with your wide receiver coach every single day getting like that attention detail then lifting every single day because the games weren't happening so literally how the amount of motivation that these coaches can say to him too like how are you going to work versus everybody else like everybody else is kind of in the dark right now we don't know what anybody has because of games.

1:50:17Pat McAfee:We're not seeing public workouts. We're not seeing group workouts. So the motivation is just very much like, what are you doing today that nobody else is doing? And it feels like he's a guy that's like everything, actually. I'm going to do absolutely everything. Way to take advantage of a situation.

1:50:28AQ Shipley:Just locked in. It probably wasn't just him. It was probably other good receivers and probably DBs in that area. They probably had their games because it was at the fall. So they probably... I was going to say, knowing how it was with Seattle, I bet it was Probably pretty strict up there.

1:50:46Pat McAfee:Seattle was like the first one. Remember, XFL game, there was the nacho stand. That's right. Seattle Dragons.

1:50:50AQ Shipley:But he said his baseball season was canceled. They obviously didn't have any games as junior or senior. He didn't stick. So I assume he played those football games because he was five stars. He left early there, didn't he? Yeah. It rolled early, yeah. I don't know.

1:51:03Pat McAfee:I hope they had a season, but there was a lot of talk about no seasons. And Washington was certainly a state that, in my mind, I naturally think harsher restrictions. Some teams played like three or four games too. I know some senior classes got like two, three games. They got screwed. Remember Trey Lance? He played what? Like five, six games or whatever it was out there because of the COVID. So whatever. The fact that he was able to get through all that and become the person he is, it's like incredible in between the years, which is all anybody's looking for. If you have a special talent and you're in between the years, you're different, you're going to be a guy.

1:51:36Pat McAfee:Baker's down there killing it. Mike Evans, what a great mentor. Chris Godwin, dog. He'll go across the middle anytime. Anytime. Sterling Shepard now is kind of like a revival of his career after leaving the Giants down there. And then on the defensive side, you got Vita Vea, who will anybody in the league. Okay, for you. And then obviously Levante David now is making no-look diving interceptions. The Buccaneers might be team of destiny this year. They might. They might be. They got a good team.

1:52:01AQ Shipley:Tristan Wurfs back. Wurfs is back. Bucky gets back in the fall. Yeah, Bucky, Mike Evans gets back in there.

1:52:07Pat McAfee:Before we go off ESPN, a couple stories we got to hit. North Carolina football team's had a tough couple weeks, days, months. Yeah. It's terrible. It's a good way to put it. It's awful. It's been pretty good. It feels like it. It feels like there's nothing good, you know. That first drive. Oh, man. Never take a problem. We were down there. Who was going? Penny Pablo's up there. Didn't even perform. Didn't need him to. Just showed his face. Place one crazy. Come on, North Carolina. Raise up. You know. And we all immediately almost like took our shirts out. And spun around and all here just like a helicopter.

1:52:43Pat McAfee:Place is going crazy. Well, then the other team got the ball at TCU. Yeah. And then they just continue to just beat the shit out of the team. And then what happened from there forward is the same thing. And then it's not just on the field where they're getting kicked. It's every angle off the field as well. Hey, did you know this? Did you know this? People are saying this. They canceled the doc for the Hulu doc. I wish that wouldn't have happened. Yeah, but what if it's supposed to be a three-year doc? And, you know, it's like the long-term process build. All I'm saying is, as somebody that obviously worked with Michael Lombardi and Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick last year, Michael Lombardi the last few years, he's been a good guy to us.

1:53:19Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, for sure. But, boy, I guess these agents and players and everything are saying a different story. We think they still got time, but, boy, it is loud outside down there. Yeah, as someone who grew up idolizing Bill Belichick, this is basically the worst possible scenario on how this could have gone as a fan of his. I don't know if somebody is, you know, kind of doing this to, like, make it seem like it's terrible. If that's the case, maybe they should say something. Oh, you're saying maybe there's a little bit of a work. Yeah, because obviously Bill made a few enemies over his time in New England.

1:53:48It's just one of those things like, hey, someone's got to come out and say this isn't true because everyone who was a fan of him kind of is losing it a little bit when it comes to that.

1:53:55Pat McAfee:And we'll continue digitally. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Oh, I forgot what day it was. Right there. It's Wednesday. Okay. Yeah. Just so we're all in clear. Yeah. It's Wednesday. Thank you. Shipley's here. That's right. That's right. A.J. Hawk's here. Yes. See? He's here every day. So it's Monday or Thursday. Oh, that's right. Because he's on the wall and I'm here, so it's not Friday. Exactly. So that gave four. This is like a guess who game. Mm-hmm. You know, like A.J. Hawk is here. He's not in the game. So it's not Friday.

1:54:29Pat McAfee:It's a good game. There's no game tonight. Okay. So it's not Monday or Thursday. BA's not here not Tuesday see I haven't got to that point yet I haven't got to Tuesday's Bruce Day BA Day Thursday was Chuck's Day because McCarthy so I still think that my brain hasn't bought in completely you are the outlier though I should have looked over and saw you and said hump day yeah exactly you know what I mean that's what I should have said what's that reference I look like a hump day No, it's Wednesday. What do we mean? I figured that. I'm talking about the trophy. The trenching? For the trenching, yeah.

1:55:12What is happening?

1:55:12Pat McAfee:No, I'm talking about how we look. Just right now, it looks like there's a hump. That was humped over a bit? Yeah, humped over. Peacock Day. Wednesday. Go posture. What day is it, Mike? Hope Day! You remember that? Oh, yeah, Geico. Come on. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. That was a good episode. Good commercial. I'm sorry. Good segment. Have I seen a lot of, what's that guy's name? Mayhem? No, Stephen Hawking. I've seen a lot of him. There's been a lot of Stephen Hawking out there. You got to stop. Michael Cole is calling these things. Michael Cole is calling these things. Some of them fool me.

1:55:49Some of them think I'm real. I talked about the Michael Cole ones.

1:55:51Pat McAfee:I talked about that with, we showed the Karen Lacey video on Monday that was made publicly available. millions of people saw the video it's like hold on feels like everything we were told about this is potentially different and then two days later the state police go like hold on there's actually full full context we think we we thought we had more context full context and then we find out there's even more context here it's like that's kind of in live daily show stuff and as more things are made available obviously we will reference them especially in something like this situation but like at in real time right now being live show host with what ai is and what's possible with just like literally the click of a button on your phone it's wild west right now out here so whenever you hear somebody from like a legal standpoint say hey this is what this is we think oh we can believe it this is what it is and then the state police literally two days later go hold on this is not what this is though and that's just in a very serious that's legal and state police people the rest of the internet i mean i don't know how we're ever going to be able to tell what is there's no stopping there's no guardrails you can do at this point it's out there and it's not going to get rolled back it's only going to get better so all you really need though and we've lived this uh through the internet era is all you need is a basic editor on your phone now and you can turn something just couple words change and it looks legit and that narrative of message might be completely different and then people see that and then they set their agenda to that and their narrative and then the ripple effect the butterfly effect i get of just one of these things and the carry it has and we're not saying that we aren't a part of i mean we all anybody that's on the internet right now is kind of a part of it but it's a wild time of like we have to get context on for everything and literally everything and i know stephen hawkins passed away well i'm smart he's dead but if somebody didn't know that there's a video yesterday i saw him going off top rope with Michael Cole.

1:57:50Pat McAfee:Stephen Hawkins flying through here. Doing two backflips in the X Games, dropping into a half pipe. I mean, unbelievable. The detail, and then to have Michael Cole, like, hey, need Michael Cole to voice this over. No problem, we got him. People are just chopping us in, and it's... MLK? I mean, I saw MLK. He doesn't have dreams anymore. I am the dream. Gotta leave MLK alone. Well, Tupac and Biggie came out there in WWE. I think Michael Cole has any idea what he's a part of right now. I sent him the one. I sent him the Stephen Hawking one. I'm like, bro, why'd you say this? And I sent it. And he goes, what?

1:58:23Pat McAfee:And then, LOL, LOL, LOL. Is that where we are with technology or something like that? It's like, we're just at the very beginning of this entire thing. Well, that's the thing. It's like right now, people are just doing it to show Stephen Hawking winning the next game's gold medal. But at a certain time, it's going to be like, okay, we can actually kind of put some people in some really bad situations, mold some narratives here, and it's going to be very hard. We have to somehow, that has to get figured out. Especially whenever you talk about high school, college people, they're growing up in this area.

1:58:53Pat McAfee:And it's like, I mean, we get got. They try. I couldn't even imagine. I don't know how we play defense against it. We certainly have to. We will try our absolute best to be a part of the solution. We promise you that. Now, granted, are we part of the problem? Certainly. And that's day-to-day with what we're operating and seeing. But we think as a whole, we should be a part of the solution. And we're going to try to do that. Yeah. We all agree? Yeah. Team on me, team on three, one, two, three. Team. All right, we'll be back after this, wrapping up. Obviously, this glorious hump day Wednesday. We got a buddy.

1:59:27Pat McAfee:You can't do the R. I mean, what is happening? You can't do the R. Just give him full context. We got a hump right over here. He's from – You can't remember that one. Camelback Mountain. Oh, there it is. That's what I'm doing. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. I love those mountains over there. Yeah, of course. I love that. I love the way it is over there. I feel like I'm taking a lot of ricochet shots right now. It's not ricochet, I don't think, right? Well, it started with that, and then I think Ty said your gut. No! Oh, yeah, that was a ricochet. I was just trying to infer. I didn't know. Yeah, Ty, I don't think that was a ricochet either.

1:59:58Pat McAfee:That was definitely a cold-blooded shot from Ty. Oh, I love it. Great cross-the-bought. I'm the strongest I've ever been, so keep the shots coming. Oh, really? Yeah. We've got a pretty little strong husky over here right now. I'm also the largest I've been in three years. So you're doing any science. You're doing any science or no? I'm not right now. You need to try it. It's tough. I'll tell you, you need to try the science. It's great. I know. I feel like you stopped working out. Did you stop working out in the basement? AQ? No, no, I'm still doing it. I just. Oh, you're just bulking up. Just don't eat very healthy right now.

2:00:28Pat McAfee:You remember he was spending like six hours. Oh, I'm a chef. Remember he was doing that? He does fancy himself a good cook, which he is. He's actually good cook. We'll take time to cook shit. will go to cities, call on behalf of himself, by himself, to go see some chef's kitchens so that he can kind of see. Good kitchens. Has respect for the kitchen game. Every Super Bowl, he's a part of the chef-off, like AQ. NFL player loves cooking things. AQ Shipley's here doing the chef-off, so he does like cooking. But whenever he was like in his thin AQ days, he spent like five, six hours on Sunday meal prepping, and we had to get photos of him fucking cooking the same meat every week.

2:01:06Pat McAfee:I tried new spices. week. I did this. I did this. And I appreciate you doing that for the good of yourself. But how much happier are you now? Real happy. We saw it. We saw it. Like Marshall Yonda. No way he's happy right now. I don't know. Maybe he is. There's some people that are like that. Like Anthony Costanzo. He was force feeding himself whenever he was a left tackle. So I think him in retirement, I think he's happy that he doesn't have to eat a bunch. But man, if you're a big guy who likes to eat, which normally big guys like to do, that's why they're big guys. It's tough You become miserable when you don't eat.

2:01:39No doubt. And I'm at the point right now where you don't realize this is the funny thing, right? Like when you're in meetings and your brain is always engaged, like your metabolism is always rolling, right? When you're not in meetings, you don't have the stress of games. You don't have the stress of practice. You don't have the stress. You're wearing Crocs all the time. Yeah, all that. Yeah, exactly. Now I don't have that and my metabolism is not quite as good as it once was.

2:02:01Pat McAfee:I'm saying now with the Crocs, the metabolism is going down. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Are those camo? What are you wearing today? These aren't crocs. Basically, things are sick. Fel croc. Can't even see them. What are they? Cam Hane Speedlands. You under armor then? Remember I had the Oak Blood once. Now we got the cam. We can't even see them. We can't. Don't they like click? You click them, right? They don't even tie. They're like a different bit. Yeah, boa. They got the boa on. There it is. There's the boa. Sweet. I love no ties. What the? Those are really cool, man. Space Age Tech for 33. So those are called Speedland?

2:02:35Pat McAfee:Speedland, yeah. Can you shoot a hoop? Can you shoot basketball with it? Sure. and dunk with those on. Are you kidding me? Are they for running trails or what? Yeah, that's what they're for. You're running trails in this thing? People do. I'm not. Hey, I wouldn't mind running some trails. Come on. I'll get you some speed lanes. Will you wear them? They're better than some of those shoes over there. We already had that talk. I don't.

2:03:00AQ Shipley:There was one. There was one that was... Oh, yeah, there was one. There was one. Was one. Those colors. Those were a gift.

2:03:08Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. I forgot. I already eliminated those from my mind. And you will not see those amongst the others over here. Okay? You will not see those ever. Okay? Let's just move along. Where me and Tone grew up, though, woods in between streets. So mine down at the bottom of the hill, of all the hills in a hilly town. so it did a lot of woods walking you know to get to people's houses school and everything like that i had no idea that's what people call hiking like my wife was like we're gonna go hiking on like a big hike i was excited i'm like i've never gone hiking before and then we go out to the woods and we just start fucking walking through the woods i'm like this is walking through the woods no we're hiking right now i'm like i grew up doing this literally i've gone hiking 10 000 times if that's what we're doing right here.

2:03:57Pat McAfee:Those shoes right there, downhill, roll ankle. I'm already seeing it. Nope. Yeah, downhill, roll ankles. Because, you know, experienced hikers going downhill is a certain thing. You're doing quick feet. Those things, you're done. No chance. Those are not speed men. Those are broken ankle men. Look how wide the footprint is. Look how wide it is. All these new shoes, the new Nikes, the new Brooks, the new everything. Super narrow. Super narrow. That's why all these ankles are rolling. This one, wide. Oh, so you're saying we got good grasp of the ground whenever we're hiking through the woods in our speed man.

2:04:28Are those waterproof? Can you get in the creek with those? Well, see, in Arizona, it doesn't take water very well, so when it rains, it basically floods the whole city. Last week, I thought they were waterproof. I walked, my whole foot was wet. Didn't do anything. Whole foot. Whole foot was wet. So you just thought they were by looking at them?

2:04:48Pat McAfee:I mean, they're for hiking. Doesn't it rain? That's fair. Dry hiking, maybe. Yeah, you're trying to walk through the woods You're not trying to walk through the mud and those things. Speaking of, we got some rain out here. Is it raining? It's raining, all right. Let's get to a break. They poured all day here yesterday. What the fuck just showed up? What the hell is this guy doing? Let's get to a break. Who's there? I don't know. Honestly, I do not know. I do not know. There's just somebody. Just know, now is not the time to be showing up here uninvited. There's a lot of things in this Thunderdome.

2:05:17Pat McAfee:Okay, there's a lot of things in this Thunderdome right now. There's been a lot of things said. You know, some people in here. So maybe we did. Maybe we did. bunker the house a little bit here at the Thunderdome. We're all carrying. Look at this fucking thing, man. Precisely. What Tone just said. We'll be back on the other side. What the fuck is going on? I have no idea. A lot of balloons. There's a lot of balloons out there. Somebody's birthday today. Is that Scarguard out there? Could be. Could be Bill Scarguard out there. Yeah, Bill Scarguard driving a brand new 2002 Blue Kia. You gotta love it.

2:05:53Still classy.

2:06:23Pat McAfee:Football! Fox Sports won the night. Blue Jays, Yankees. Crazy. Brink of elimination for Aaron Judge, who has a magical night last night and makes baseball more interesting than I've seen it in some time. Baseball's in a little bit of a run right now. Yankees moving on would be good for the storyline, but Toronto's one of the most signed teams in baseball, and they got people doing Charlie Hustle's slides. Oh, yeah. Vlad Guerrero known for being incredibly fast and a great slider. No, I think he's actually slimmed down. I think he slimmed down quite a bit. Look at the horse running. This is just a guy knowing that, hey, we're going to need this run to win this ball game.

2:07:00So I'm going to sell out big time. He hit a dong right in this game? Yes, he did. He's hit a homer in three straight games.

2:07:05Pat McAfee:AJ, do you see this dude, Pete Rosen? That's right. I'll tell you what. Pete Rosen, I heard about Pete Rosen my whole life growing up. And watching Pete slide into first base like this is one of my favorite things ever. Yeah, they don't do that anymore. No, they don't. They don't do that. It actually slows you down if you slide into first like that. But it looks great, though. Yeah, and sliding into home, obviously, because you've got to beat the tag. Good throw there. Could have got him. He's running his ass off right there. Yeah, big time. And it was. I mean, that was about as good of a throw as you can have.

2:07:31Maybe a little more cheese on it. But, yeah, I mean, I think no one really looks at Vlad like he's some speedster. And I'm kind of thinking when I see him around there and I'm watching it live, like, oh, shit, he's going to throw him out by a wide margin. And Vlad just kept going, and then he hits the Charlie Hustle slide. You know he's going to be safe.

2:07:48Pat McAfee:Athlete, dude. I respect him. Trying to put the team on his back. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler's here. We're about to have everything DB, good D, bad D. How many teams will be represented here?

2:07:58AQ Shipley:Oh, I mean, teams? Look, it'll be four good plays, two bad plays. Okay. But I think maybe four total teams, maybe five. What? Oh, so we're doing – Yeah, we got one on both. We got one on – yeah. Oh. Okay.

2:08:11Pat McAfee:Which is a good omen so far. Okay, that is – it has been a good omen for teams that are not only on everything DB, good D, but also in the trenches, top five performing offensive line. Thank you, Shipley. Thank you. Good to see you, A. Joining us live from Hammer is AP Tone, who's also a credited author for college football space two-time, two-time. We appreciate you, Tone, over there. Hey, baby, Tone. Hey, Tone, it's a big day because, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for a show that we've been recording in the mornings on Wednesday, but I think it's much better if we do it live. It's another college football convo with Stanford Steve.

2:08:48Pat McAfee:Yes, Steve. Steve. Oh, good to see you, Steve, a man who has more miles logged in a football season than anybody else. Obviously, we see you working and grinding everywhere. We appreciate you at game day a lot. You obviously bring incredible knowledge and vibes, not only to set up at the production room, and SVP and everything else you have going on podcast-wise. We appreciate you making time for us every Wednesday, but we think it was a necessity. Don't we think that, Tone? We thought it was a necessity to have at least one weekly college football pit stop and no better person than Stanford Steve Tone.

2:09:19Darius Butler:Yeah, college football delivers for us, so we have to deliver for college football and highlight some of the best games of the weekend.

2:09:25Pat McAfee:Stanford Steve, week seven. We're heading to Oregon, brother. And if I had to describe Oregon in one particular word, I'd say far. But if I had to say more words, I'd say it's beautiful. The trees are tall, and the football team is damn good under Dan Lanning. Indiana, also great. What should we be thinking about before we head out to beautiful Eugene, Oregon? A lot, Pat. There's a ton. Oregon now has the nation's long winning streak at home. Indiana, obviously, with Sig coming in. And this is the game that everybody has pointed to because they want to see him in this kind of environment with Mendoza.

2:10:02The similarities between the head coaches, I mean, look at that graphic there, the win percentage, the wins, conference football playoff appearance, and then the quarterbacks. Both, I mean, a ton of tuds, you know, 16-1, 14-1, have really verified these two offenses, and they're both transfers. And I think it says a lot about these head coaches of constantly hitting home runs. I mean, we look at the teams, we got what, one, two, and four from the preseason already unranked. And then you got two guys that have hit home runs at the portal at the most important position on the field, and that is quarterback.

2:10:40Mendoza's been sensational coming in from Cal. And Dante Moore, another former Pac-12 school. UCLA coming into Oregon. The idea here is that Indiana's better than they were last year. Is it good enough to go on and win a game against a top five opponent? That's the question that remains to be seen. Last year, we waited all year for them to go to Columbus, got their doors blown off. Got into the playoff, went on the road, got their doors blown off. The biggest question to me is how this is going to be different. I look towards the Indiana defense. I believe they're better. They have pros at each level.

2:11:15And Kamara on the defensive line, Fisher at linebacker, and Pons the corner sounds like he's going to play. He missed the Iowa game. So is Indiana ready to take that next step? It's a big challenge in Eugene.

2:11:26Pat McAfee:You talked about the continuity on the defensive side. All three levels there. You talked about the D lineman and Kamara, the linebacker and Fisher, I believe, and then DB in Pons. They were all Big Ten last year. They all returned. The defensive coordinator, what's his name, Tone?

2:11:41Darius Butler:His name is – oh, I just had it here. Bryant Haynes.

2:11:44Pat McAfee:Haynes, he's been with Signetti for 11 years now. So you're talking about a lot of continuity on defensive side. I assume they think they've gotten better there. And then you talk about Mendoza. This guy's in the Heisman conversation, maybe number one overall pick conversation with this Indiana team. And Signetti seemingly has a winner. Tone, what did he miss there? What are some nuggets that we need to also think about that maybe Steve didn't hit on as we head out to beautiful Oregon for college game day? Guest picker TBD, I believe. Oh, wow. Yeah, TBD.

2:12:10Darius Butler:You guys talked about them being, both of them being top five in the Heisman conversation. These two are number one and number two in the odds to go number one and number two in the NFL draft next season. So it's not like you have guys who are great Saturday players and great Saturday quarterbacks, and I'm just going to throw out, like Diego Pavia. He is an incredible college football quarterback. Is he going to be in the NFL? Probably. Is he going to be an NFL starter? Probably not. But, like, these guys. You don't know Diego Pavia. I know. I'm just saying there's great Saturday players, but then there's great Saturday players and great Sunday players, and these two are projected to be the top two as of right now.

2:12:47Darius Butler:That can change, obviously. We've got a lot of time left there. But as far as these two teams go, they don't have any weaknesses. They can both throw the ball. They can both run the ball. They both stop the run. They both stop the pass. There is no weaknesses on either of these teams. I think the difference potentially could be, first and foremost, Ottson is one of the loudest stadiums. Will Howard said that last year. It was the loudest stadium he's ever played in. And then also, neither of these teams have any weaknesses, but Oregon has a lot more of those five-star guys. So will that be the difference in this game?

2:13:15Pat McAfee:And that'll be a story for Oregon forever and ever, amen. You know, they'll have more five-star guys because of obviously the backing. But what Dan Lanning's been able to build with how far away this place is, honestly, when you get there, it's gorgeous. I mean, they got new buildings being built next to new buildings. So there's like new buildings, oh, no, not new enough. Let's make new buildings. and that is what it is. It is beautiful once you get out there, but when you talk about how far away it is and them having to handle the travel for every one of their games, you know, we're listening to James Franklin talk about going to UCLA, Lincoln Riley talking about USC having to travel.

2:13:49Pat McAfee:It's like, well, we all knew this was going to happen whenever this became the Big Ten and the ACC is going to have it take place as well. Dan Lanning has never complained about that at all. Dan Lanning is just so locked in. I enjoy the way he operates. I like the way his teams kind of fall in place and I like the way Signetti operates too, AJ. This guy is confident. He feels like he has to be the way that he is. I think, and obviously special teams making huge plays is going to be a big difference. You talked about them losing to Ohio State last year. Punt returner, ball will punt, fumble to punt, and then all of a sudden Ohio State kind of turns that thing into what it turned into with them.

2:14:20Pat McAfee:But Signetti has this mantra of confidence and attitude that seems like it's going to be able to carry over, AJ. There's a chance that what happened to them last year isn't what happens to them this year in the big games. I think it's more impressive in how they have started out this year. Coming off last year, remember, we talked a lot. Hey, okay, Sig's going to have to find a way to reload and do this all over again to continue to bring in the type of guys and to keep the guys there that you need. So, yeah, I'm very impressed. This is a huge game. I mean, obviously for Oregon, but for Indiana it is like, hey, how good are we?

2:14:51And if we can come back, I think if Indiana goes into Oregon and gets a win, that changes the landscape of college football.

2:14:56Pat McAfee:Completely. Certainly in the Big Ten, which I'm looking at a couple guys. has Iowa Hawkeye right here next to Boston Connor, and then a Penn State Nittany Lions sitting down here at the end of the desk. And it's like, wait a minute, Steve. Indiana now definitely in the upper tier of Big Ten football. And the sustainability question has been answered for this year. Then we're going to ask it again next year, just because it's new that Indiana's like this. But this type of stage is good for Signetti, I think. Anytime they get this opportunity is good for them, Steve. Absolutely. They just have to be better in this instance.

2:15:26Going back and watching them at Ohio State last year, their O-line really struggled with going on silent count, ID in the defense with Noles with all those exotic blisses, especially on third down, and they got roughed up. They couldn't overcome. Ohio State just ambushed them. So I'm interested in that attack or if they change that plan. I think it's too loud to go on the clap. But when you look at Oregon, I could see them with the pieces they have, how well they played defensively on the road. That's what it comes down to, Pat. When you look at these top teams, I think right now Oregon, Miami, Ohio State are in their own tier because they have shown they can go on the road and their defense dominates.

2:16:10And that's what I want to see out of Indiana. Their defense is better this year, but this is a true test. If Indiana wins, they should be number one in the country, no?

2:16:18Pat McAfee:Certainly, and you've said that about three teams now, and that's because we're so early in the season, but it feels like we've already known about who's who. Nick Roadcap is reporting that Signetti says, we have a veteran team, and the players have been around the block. They've been in games like this before. Boom. Boom. Sig said, we've been there, we've done that. We've got guys that have experienced this before. And our quarterback, he was in a couple big ones last year for Cal, so he understands the moment as well. We're excited about this year's team and opportunity. And I'm sure before this game kicks off, we'll hear more from Sig.

2:16:47Pat McAfee:And that's a part of Sig football. And that has made Indiana good. Let's go to another game happening this weekend that I think a lot of people assume game day would be at because that is just kind of how it goes. Red River rivalry. Oklahoma and Texas. Mateer? Mateer? Steve, what should we be thinking as we head into, you know, down there at the Texas State Fair, one of the big ones? Yeah, it's all about Mateer if he's going to play, Pat. This whole thing flips on its head if he's going to play. I don't see it here now. He just started gripping a ball last weekend. You know, Venables has played games.

2:17:21When he had Dylan Gabriel, he played it off like he was going to play in this game fresh off a concussion against TCU the week before. That doesn't happen. Last year, Hawkins starts in this game, not pretty at all. Hawkins starts last week, not pretty at all. I know they won 44-0, but you go back and watch the tape against a bad Kent State team, it was not pretty. I still think the biggest difference in this game is Oklahoma's defense. What they are, tops in the country in scoring defense. It's the different guys. In this day and age, NIL, where depth is a factor for everybody and a concern, Oklahoma's got plenty of guys on the D-line, and that's what you want in this kind of games.

2:18:02Everybody's going to talk about Arch and his struggles, and I get it, five picks on the year, but that Sark offense, you've got to be able to run the football. They can't run block or pass block. Florida ate them alive, and then it gets into his head because then in two interceptions, there's nobody pressuring him. So you can tell he's starting to get the happy feet. To me, it's can Texas score on this Oklahoma defense. I trust Oklahoma more, but it's a rivalry game. The unranked team, when they're playing a top-five team in this series, has had a ton of success. But it's up in the air right there.

2:18:41It's there for the taking if Texas puts it together. But I haven't seen it yet, and I trust Oklahoma more.

2:18:45Pat McAfee:That game against Florida was ugly. And if Matier's playing, this guy is actual Superman. Go ahead, D-Bud.

2:18:50AQ Shipley:Yeah, I know we got a lot of season left. Is there a contingency plan for Texas at quarterback if Arch continues to stink? And then on the other side, we thought this Texas defense would be dominant as well. DJ Lagway finally had his best game of the season. What's going on with that side of the ball on Texas as well? Yeah, Florida's offensive line dominated from the start, D-Bud. They really had a good attack, you know, running those zone schemes. I think Ball is a stud as a running back. And Lagoie getting Wilson back or starting his first game. I mean, that dude, 6 '3", 215 as a true freshman, that's a stud.

2:19:26I mean, catching the ball, carrying guys, that was the biggest difference in me. It was Texas. They hadn't seen it from Florida. And credit to Florida. I mean, you just can't put them away. But as far as Arch goes, I believe there's way more concerns on that offense than the quarterback position. And I get it. Everybody wants to talk about the quarterback position, especially with Texas, because of the last name. But, again, that offensive line has to tighten up. I don't care who's – you put another quarterback back there, they're only going to go backwards because they don't have a chance to succeed.

2:20:03Tighten up the defense and get that offensive line going. Hopefully, Baxter's back to run the football. He's an All-American when he's healthy. And the receiver's got to separate better. They just haven't had it. I mean, we see how well Golden has done at the NFL level, and he was in this wide receiver group last year, but he's gone, and these guys haven't stepped up. So I don't think there is a – I mean, there's guys obviously on the depth chart, but I think they've got to tighten up everything else before they look at quarterback.

2:20:33Darius Butler:Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Mateer obviously is huge because it is a huge drop-off to Hawkins, but Steve talked about the Oklahoma defense. If it wasn't for Ohio State, this would probably be the best defense in the country. They are, let's see here, I want to get it right, number two in points, number one in yards, number one on third down, number five versus the run, number two versus the pass, number two in sacks and TFLs. Florida sacked Arch six times last week. Florida now has nine sacks on the season. Oklahoma had ten sacks against Auburn in one game. They are second in the country in sacks and TFLs.

2:21:13Darius Butler:Like, yes, Mateer Hawkins is huge, but what if Texas doesn't score is my point. Now, their team total is over 21 and a half. I would definitely lean towards the under on that unless they find some fucking magic fairy dust this week and fix all their problems. But it's the Oklahoma defense that Steve has talked about, and I think is definitely probably going to be the defense or the difference in this game because Texas was supposed to be the Oklahoma defense, and they were until last week. Don't know what happened last week.

2:21:41Pat McAfee:Texas was the Oklahoma defense last year, it feels like. Oklahoma's defense with Venables feels like that was going to be good regardless. It's kind of everybody's thoughts. And then now you pair that offense. Mateer, what is his deal? Dr. Shin? He's the GOAT. Dr. Shin did a month-and-a-half-long recovery surgery in two weeks. Got it back in two weeks. Tough son of a bitch. Mateer's a cowboy, brother. Hey, dad got a – Arbuckle's dad got a fucking belt buckle, won that shit wrestling steers, okay? That's offense coordinator. Got fucking Matier getting an opportunity. These boys are tough. Tough.

2:22:15Pat McAfee:Built. Oklahoma, tough.

2:22:18Darius Butler:That's right. I believe it. You know what sucks for the Oklahoma offense? I think they're from Texas.

2:22:21Pat McAfee:Wow.

2:22:22Darius Butler:What sucks for the Oklahoma offense, too, if Matier can't go, they're 97 in the country and running the ball. So, I don't have a lot of confidence in either offense if Matier's out.

2:22:32Pat McAfee:How about Tone saying, are they going to score a point? Now, their over-under is 21-and-a-half. I'm wondering if they're even going to be able to get a first down, is what Tone's basically saying, because of the D-line. And also, Venables Cooks on that back end. There's a lot of moving pieces. They're a smothering defense. Have been for some time. Go ahead, Steve. This total's 42-and-a-half. It's the lowest this century in this game. Wow. 42-and-a-half. Longest in this century. All right. Go ahead. One quick thing, Pat. I worry about my tier. I get it. Oklahoma hates Texas. I understand that. But this is one game.

2:23:07You've got to have that guy for the rest of the SEC season. You can't run him out there and then he's out for the year if he gets dinged up again. I just can't see that happening. Win the game with your defense and move on. That's got to be the goal for Oklahoma.

2:23:19Pat McAfee:If you listen back to you saying SEC season, you should be proud of yourself. That's a fucking tough one with your accent. My accent as well. It's not easy. And you drop that thing right in the middle perfectly. You should be incredibly proud. Can't wait for that one. And also, there's a huge one down in the SEC. Obviously, we just had a chance to go down there and celebrate Nick Saban getting recognized for going into the College Football Hall of Fame. Alabama is taking on Missouri. What do we need to know about Missouri? I feel like we told the Ty Simpson and Alabama story last week in pretty good detail, and they get a huge win over Vandy.

2:23:54Yeah, all these teams that we mentioned, we've seen them go on the road, and we've seen them play against great competition. I don't know what to think of Missouri. You know, Drinkowitz does a great job with that offense. They throw a ton at you in the run game as far as eye candy, but they're 109th in strength of schedule. And you got Alabama coming in who got their ass kicked at Florida State, went on the road and gutted one out against Georgia, and then gutted one out with their defense against Vandy. I mean, you were there. That game was up for grabs, man. Vandy went up and down the field in the first half, and they only came away with, what, 14 points, two turnovers inside the 10-yard line, but that was Alabama taking it away from Vanderbilt, and that was really impressive.

2:24:36So the question to me is, Ty Simpson with this, what is it, fifth-ranked pass offense, averaging about.325 in the air. What does it look like on the road in an early start versus an unproven team who has a great running back in the mind? Hardy, he's leading FBS with 146 yards a game. I just don't know what to expect from Missouri. That's the tough thing about this one.

2:25:00Pat McAfee:Tom, what do you expect from Missouri in this one?

2:25:02Darius Butler:Yeah, I think it's similar to last week kind of with Bama and Vandy. It's going to be can Bama stop the run because Vandy came in last week averaging over 200-whatever yards a game. And Bama, they held them to a decent amount. Obviously, they had the long rushing touchdown to start the game. But Mizzou, great against the run and great running ball. They are number one in the country in stopping the run, and Bama just got their run game going last week with Jam Miller, and then they're number three in the country in running the ball. Steve talked about Ahmad Hardy. He's got 700-some yards rushing already on the season, number one in the country.

2:25:37Darius Butler:So it's going to be can Bama stop the run because they're still 88th versus the run. And then that Bama defense, they've only given up seven points in the last two games in the second half. They gave up seven to Georgia and none to Vandy, if I'm correct. So they've given up yards and points in the first half, but none in the second half. But Ty Simpson is, I think, the best player or the best quarterback. Privula's been good out of the transfer out of Penn State, running and throwing, but Ty Simpson's been incredible. So can Mizzou stop the Alabama pass game?

2:26:11Pat McAfee:Ty Simpson's fun to watch live. He's a leader out there. He's got good energy. He's got good juice. They've got athletes all over the place. And shout-out to Kalen DeBoer sitting in the pocket, taking all the heat that he took, certainly after the loss to Florida State. and now they look like they're ready to go on a run that's isaiah horton right there i believe he is just eye test walk by it holy shit i mean is that tight end it's a wide receiver he puts on 10 pounds he could be tight end he could be i mean he is they everybody looks the part obviously it's alabama yeah and they're playing like it too good for them a couple other stories around college football that the boys want to ask you about stanford steve let's start with a member of the Penn State oh oh oh oh we Penn State crowd Super Bowl champion thank you Shipley yeah Steve you just mentioned Bo down in Missouri and obviously hindsight's 20-20 and maybe they should have kept him based on how Drew Allers looked but is there any noise right now with Ethan Grunkmeyer maybe stepping in for Drew Aller because they're getting ready to play a Northwestern team that beat UCLA UCLA beat Penn State.

2:27:21They're blaming it on the travel, yet Dan Lanning traveled and won. So just wondering, just curious about that. AQ's got questions about Penn State right now. Okay.

2:27:30Pat McAfee:I thought he had the answers for Penn State. Yikes. That's what I thought he was talking about. Hey, that's a good call, Steve. Yikes. That's a good call. More problems, more solutions. Unbelievable. Yeah. Jeez. You know, I got to watch them practice Thursday when I was there, AQ, and he does have the build of Pribula. And everybody goes back to what Perbula looked like when he came in, saved the day against Wisconsin. And then you think about Kotelnicki, where he came from, and Kansas was the best when they had Daniels running that offense. You know, with mobility and all the misdirection they run, you know, yeah, Perbula probably looked better in that system.

2:28:12But then you go back to last week, the offense wasn't the problem. The defense got diced up nonstop. maybe 270 yards UCLA ran for against Penn State, who I would bet on has every higher-ranked prospect in the matchup when you look at UCLA's offensive line against the defensive line. And the quarterback run killed them, as you saw there with Nico. So I don't know what to think of Penn State because you get what you want. You battle all the way back. When your backs were against the wall, against a top team in the country in Oregon, and then you go out there and look like that against a winless team, they've got to tighten up both sides.

2:28:53And that starts with the coaching staff. When you look at it, you've got to get this thing ironed out and what the defense looked like last week. James Franklin's never lost this kind of game at Penn State. 24-point favor on the road. He's never lost those games. So all this stuff is first that I think they've got to get ironed out, and we'll see. you think it's gonna work out or well i saw the ucla coach now has as many top 10 wins as james franklin does oh neuheisel jerry neuheisel's a good coach

2:29:26Pat McAfee:okay the guy found out he was calling plays on wednesday sore it was the first time had call his dad let him know hey i'm calling plays he said this weekend and he did and he uh he did a fantastic job it was one of the greatest stories of college football this past weekend And it reminded us all that even if it appears as if you have no hope, no optimism at all, just about to get absolutely bamboozled by greatness and you are just a sack and a pile of shit. If that's how everybody is viewing it, you can win because UCLA beat Penn State. How many points? 24-point spread? we should remember this as inspiration.

2:30:12Pat McAfee:The Cincinnati Bengals won four games the year before they went to the Super Bowl. Okay, so every NFL team can say, hey, ass went to the Super Bowl. And if your team is completely out of it already, like UCLA has been since before kickoff of the first game, okay, rude to say, reality of situation. You can get a win over Penn State. You can get a win over the number one team in the country at one point. You can have a promising dub that can change the trajectory of your entire program. I heard UCLA got some more commitments. Really? All he needs is one of those big – James Franklin actually helping UCLA out all the time out of nowhere getting these big-time wins because UCLA is in Los Angeles.

2:30:54Pat McAfee:True. It is in Los Angeles, as we found out from the Big Ten media days last year when Coach took his hand. I mean, it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad UCLA football. Guys leaving, why can't win there? Well, who's there next? Well, the way he described it is it's in Los Angeles. That was all he really had to say about, okay, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And then they just smacked Penn State around. Just absolutely demoralized.

2:31:16AQ Shipley:Well, it ended up being too far of a trip for James Franklin.

2:31:21Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, city of big lights out there, too. There's a lot of stats coming out, but maybe not so much anymore. Well, yeah. Which is a bummer. I don't like that. The question will be, and we'll look back on this moment, is what's UCLA going to do when the Dolphins fire Mike McDaniel and they hired Jerry Neuheisel to be their newest head coach. And then you lose, how are you going to replace that guy? I don't know. I think you just bring, actually, Joey Molinaro in there and just tell him to be. Yeah, and he never left. Yeah, never left. Just be Neuheisel. I don't know if you saw this, AQ.

2:31:50Pat McAfee:I got good news for you against Northwestern. Okay. You guys are honoring the 90s end zones with the paint job. Wow. Remember these days? You remember these days? LeVar Arrington jumping over people. This was in the end zone. They should have never changed that end zone. That looks really good. It does look really good. Now, I don't know what it looked like last week. Yeah, what's the other one? What's the other one look like? I asked Bruce. Penn State football tweeted this out. They said we're going to honor or something look back. Look at this. That's what they tweeted, and it was something about honoring tradition, basically, is what they said.

2:32:19Pat McAfee:There's no real other context. Like, what does it look like last week, and when, what year exactly, and all those things. But we do know it looks cool. That does look cool. They should keep that. I don't know if they actually had anything in the end zone for the Oregon game. I think it was just blank. Well, I walked across it, Gump. We walked across it, right? We should have a video, actually.

2:32:36Darius Butler:I'm trying to find the video right now. Huh. Is it the iconic white diamonds? I think it was stenciled with blue on the outside. I could be wrong.

2:32:45Pat McAfee:What do you mean? The whole entire pencil? That's the change? Yeah, that's a different font. They went different font. Damn, that's dummy, dog. I love that. That is dummy. Dude, that's lit. They should sell shirts with that. Maybe make some new merch. They got new... They're going back to the uniforms, too, with the white collar. Holy fuck! No way. Fuck, dude. That's sweet. That's what I played with. Yeah, there's pictures of him in magazines. That's right. You know, and white collar, good for Penn State too, I think. What was it, a blue collar before? Yeah, right. It was something. The blue didn't match.

2:33:18I heard the whole story this week. I literally listened to the video. What was the story? It was when Russell was making the uniforms. They were trying to make better uniforms. The blue on the collar didn't match the blue of the jersey. So the equipment manager said, hey, just put the white on there. Joe won't even notice, and then Joe approved it. So Joe knew. Jesus.

2:33:39Pat McAfee:In this case, Joe didn't know. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Big college football slate this weekend. Obviously, we got a big one in Oregon that we're going to be lucky enough to be on the grounds of in the morning, early morning over there. They always show up for us since I've been on the show. It's very cool. pitch black, cold, probably a little bit of rain. It's like a perfect setting for football. Their crowd, their students show up for us in a big way. Obviously, their mascot is electric. He's going to do something. It's going to be a show. There's been live animals, I think, a few different times.

2:34:17Pat McAfee:Have we been out there? What kind? The duck. Steve, I don't want to have this conversation. There are people listening. Obviously, this is live. Steve's fear of ducks is disgusting. Really? Think how big Steve is. Think how big he is. Just kick him in the head, Steve. Exactly. I know, but I'm sitting down, and the thing, they put it on the desk right next to me. And the thing's neck is longer than my arm. I don't know what it's going to do, man. He freaks out. That Aflac ducks me out. It ruins his entire... He just stares at me. He just stares at me, and I got all these guys chirping on the desk at me.

2:34:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, so whenever... Look, he is frozen right now. That duck... Oh, no. completely froze him you know steve always good vibes guy i think that's like one of stanford steve's thing always good vibes even when he's not a part of the conversation you look over steve's in his area he's either in ear chit-chatting saying something or he's just over good vibes good vibes soon as this duck shows up bad vibes just immediately bad vibes and it's through an entire commercial break the ducks handler aflac ducks handler is placing it right in front of him, petting it. And Steve is just frozen. Just like, don't I don't even want to look at it.

2:35:29Pat McAfee:So he has ears in. Nobody else does. So we can talk directly to him, right? Because our mics go to his ears. And we just start like shit talking him. You actually have a fear of these things. You actually are scared of that duck? He was better behaved this year. But last year, as soon as he got on the desk, he was just eyeballing me the whole time. And I just, I don't know. Yeah, he got in my head. You've been picking good. How'd you do this weekend? You've been 2-1, 2-1, 2-1, 2-1. Yeah, 1-2. It was inevitable. Steve-O. It was inevitable. How'd Theo do? How'd Theo's picks do? Do we see? 5-3, I think.

2:36:04Pat McAfee:Not terrible. I guess pickers have been awful. They don't have any spread. It's bad. I think 6-3 is the leader. Yeah, but this has been a tough year. You've been doing well. It's been a tough year. I'm just saying. You've been good when you go on the island. That island. Come on, brother. I was looking for that, too. Everybody heard me in production meeting. Hey, is there any pics where everybody's on the same page, please? I'm looking to go the other way. Yeah, we got one here, blah, blah, blah. And then somebody took it. I'm like, all right, sweet. But I'm certainly looking for those.

2:36:37AQ Shipley:Oh, yeah.

2:36:37Pat McAfee:Especially the way these sports folks have been winning, brother. Not just in college. In the NFL, they've been really winning. They've been kicking the shit out of all of us. That's why we'll continue to listen to you. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Can't wait to see you in Oregon. Appreciate you guys. Hey, how would you describe Oregon? Green I'll see you over there Ladies and gentlemen, stand for Steve It is beautifully green I mean You might get a little early fall foliage Oh man You land in a postcard over there Like getting there long Sure It's a long flight over there But then once you get there We get there as the sun was rising And it's like you got there early the trees are just beautiful like it is it's majestic I think that's the only way to really describe it but it takes a long time to get there but once you're there

2:37:31AQ Shipley:it's worth it. Is it longer going or coming back?

2:37:33Pat McAfee:Going. Coming back jet stream west to east jet stream east to west you don't know what you're fighting because this fucker's invisible and it can pop up out of nowhere you can have a four and a half hour flight that becomes a six hour flight and you know on the flip side you can have a five-hour flight that becomes a 345 350 4 or 415 maybe on the way back west east you can really steal some time coming west east east to west though you have no idea what you're into until you get up there and then all of a sudden it's like have we moved why is this map say we're still in oh we got 800 knot headwind or something like that it's like We just came out of nowhere to come from.

2:38:10Pat McAfee:Well, that's a bigger question. What does happen? How do these things, you know? But it was cold this morning, AJ. Was it cold over there in Ohio? Yeah, it was pretty chilly. Feels like we're starting to get into the best. Are you guys doing fires over there already? Are we cutting grass at night? We love fires. I love walking around and smelling people that have fire going on somewhere in the neighborhood. That's the best. Yeah, a little bonfire smell is always good, isn't it? Oh, it's the best. Oh, you imagine just a little crack of the logs. Then going inside after being there and being the one that just for some reason the smoke was just blowing directly at the whole fucking time.

2:38:48It's been like shit for the next fucking four days.

2:38:50Pat McAfee:The whole fucking time. Yeah. How come I just got up and moved the other side of this fire and this motherfucker just keeps following me here. Sorry, everybody else having a good time. I hope we're all happy here. I'm getting fucking hotboxed by the goddamn fire. But you smell amazing. You do smell amazing. It's that time of year. It's a great time of year. Football is obviously awesome. It provides so many amazing things. There's one particular position in football that rarely gets the credit or the accolades that it deserves. So we have a program and a show here that likes to celebrate the big guys, the overlook guys, the underappreciated groups of NFL teams.

2:39:21Pat McAfee:That's why every single week we've been giving out awards for the top five performing lines, offensive lines each week, in a segment called In the Trenches with A.Q. Shipley. A.Q. Hey, Q, let's go and see who are the top five performing offensive lines from week five, top five, week five. Number five, Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions. And let me tell you something. Defensors are doing a great job trying to rain on the parade of offensive linemen, but Detroit continues to show up after week one. Let's take a look at this play right here. We're going to get three tight ends after they motion over Brock Wright.

2:39:54We got Duo, the best run play in football, in my opinion, because we get downhill and we beat people up. We got double team, double team. Graham Glasgow. Look at that backside cut. Bodies on the floor. Get down the field. Zero sacks allowed for this group this week.

2:40:08Pat McAfee:Dave Montgomery obviously returning home, playing in front of his sister for the first time in a long time. That was a really cool moment to see. But it feels like Sonic and Knuckles are a great one-two punch, but this offensive line is creating holes. Ain't anybody could run through? Is that kind of the conversation? We're getting to that point. I mean, listen, they were down Taylor Decker this week, but I love what they did this week with the three tight ends. Look at that rock technique by Brock Wright. I love it. What a cut by Monco. Yeah, so good. So good. What were they calling them again, Fox?

2:40:35Pat McAfee:Well, week one, they didn't really show up. So instead of Sonic and Knuckles, they were calling them ass and cheeks.

2:40:41JJ Watt:And none of us liked it. But that seems like a really long time ago now. So we don't need to be doing that.

2:40:45Pat McAfee:AJ, that's what they were calling them up there in Detroit. They were saying these two right. That's disrespectful. I agree. Disrespectful, I feel like. Especially with how great they were. So, Foxy, hopefully they continue playing well and they don't go back to that. Because that would be a shame. You don't want them to go back to ass and cheeks? No, I don't want Foxy's little, you know, his heart to be broken. and I think that would really hurt him. I think Foxy was a part of the group calling him ass in cheek. I mean, I definitely vocalized it a little bit, but, yeah, we won't be going back to that.

2:41:08Pat McAfee:Foxy said peanut butter and jelly, ass in cheek. Exactly. These guys, we need to get over it. What a cut there by Montgomery. Also threw a touchdown. Was he a quarterback in high school? Yes. Had to be, right? He was. I think I heard that during the commentator was saying, like, back in his home city where he was a quarterback, I think he was probably a five-star quarterback if I had to guess.

2:41:24JJ Watt:Yep, and he threw a touchdown last year as well. I hope he wasn't a five-star quarterback. Why? Because he went to Iowa State. He could have went somewhere. Ohio State, Alabama, something like that. Iowa. Maybe. It worked out for him, obviously.

2:41:39Pat McAfee:Hey, go Cyclones, by the way. They own that state, don't they, football-wise? Two years in a row. No, they don't. They're doing good right now, and I want them to keep winning, which is why it breaks my heart because we need a team from Iowa. You can't be going out and fucking losing to Cincinnati. Cincinnati's a good football team. That line felt stinky. It did feel stinky. It felt stinky there for a little while. I was very confused, and since he just handled them, Rocko Beck tried to make a run. Let's go back to the top five performing offensive lines of week five. Number four, the Denver Broncos.

2:42:06Pat McAfee:Whoa, a lot of talk about their defense coming into the season. Bo Nix another year. Offensive line feels like you are a big fan of them. Yeah, they're starting to play really well too, and I think Sean Payton's doing a fantastic job, play calling. He is setting up the sequence very, very well right now. And let's take a look at this. We're going to send the fullback in motion, make it seem like we're going to go zone left. Guess what? We're going to bend this back, bring the fullback back. Look at Quinn Miners and McGlinchey on the double team. They brought the fight to Philly. Most physical team hands down in this game was the Denver Broncos.

2:42:37Pat McAfee:I like that the Denver Broncos offensive line continues to be good. Sean Payton said before he got the job, after he got the job, before he went into the building, we were talking to him at Radio Road Super Bowl, and AQ just immediately walks right up to him and goes, you need to fix that offensive line. And he goes, I know, it's like my number one thing. Wasn't that his number one thing? That was the number one thing, and he brought everybody in. They're all new people. Every single person is new from when he got the job. I appreciate, though, that he understands that the offensive line is going to make or break you.

2:43:03Pat McAfee:Like, that was the thought. Now, obviously, he gets Bo Nix in the first round, who he likes. He fell in love with throughout the entire combine draft process. But his number one focus, like, we need an offensive line, feels like you need to have the big boys up front if you want to do anything good. The game is won in the trenches. That's why number three performing offensive line from week five, the Dallas Cowboys. What? Two, two, and one. They got a tie. They do. They got a tie. Congrats to the Cowboys. Not a lot of conversation about them and their offensive line as of late. That one tie could be huge, but let's talk about this offensive line.

2:43:34Four of five offensive line starters down, still ran for 180 yards, and it starts with Clayton Adams. Clayton Adams, if you remember, he was Arizona's run game coordinator a year ago. They had a very good run game. Big loss goes to Dallas. Guess what? Dallas' run game last year, not very good. Now, very good. He's an instrumental part on why they are succeeding. Look at this trap play. Right up the middle. Again, we just got to get you to the next level, and we break some tackles. Again, you can't control who you're playing on defense, but the New York Jets stink, and they looked really good against them.

2:44:05Pat McAfee:I love the fact that the Dallas Cowboys, they can still go win it all. They could. They could go win it all. Think about what the conversation was about Shawty just a few weeks ago, and then George Pickens being able to do what George Pickens is doing. Offensive line having to move some pieces around still have success. Good luck down here, Shawty. They also have kind of a budding young rookie. The Flournoy kid, I think he had like 110 yards. It was kind of like his opportunity now that C.D. Lamb's going to be out for a little while. If he's good all of a sudden, him, Pickens, and C.D., when C.D.

2:44:38gets back, if they can hang on, they're going to be a problem.

2:44:40Pat McAfee:The Dallas Cowboys. McCarthy said he liked this team. He did. Coach McCarthy said, I like the team. I like the locker room. Ed and George Pickens, obviously, he has a little fire in there. I like what they're doing. He obviously would know it better than anybody. And holy hell, I don't think any of us could have guessed this team. Well,

2:44:56AQ Shipley:a couple of us could have.

2:44:59Pat McAfee:Why is that?

2:44:59AQ Shipley:One out here, one in the back, could have guessed it.

2:45:01Pat McAfee:Oh, so you're saying the team they played against certainly provided an opportunity to get an award for being one of the top-performing teams in the league. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations to the Carolina Panthers. Wow. Records two and three, number two performing offensive line in the league coming out of week five. How come is that? How come, AQ? 239 yards rushing, 206 for Rico Dowdle. Oh, they got the Rico half-tossed at him. And let me tell you, this play is not blocked perfectly. If you watch this single to the right. This is in the trenches. What are we highlighting? Just because here's where I'm going to go.

2:45:31Let's watch this. So, first of all, the combo on the left is incredible. Let's watch the center. Center and right guard get split. I talked to Harold Goodwin, their offensive line coach. He was mad that this happened. But if you look at that, if we can rewind that one more time, watch the center as he comes back, puts a little kill shot up on this linebacker. But guess what? It knocks off that defensive end that was going to make the play. Because he comes back, again, the frontside shade, lost in the sauce, boom, stops the defensive end because he runs into the center,

2:45:57Pat McAfee:and that gets the home run run. He blocked three guys. Wow. One guy blocked three guys. He didn't do it perfectly, but every good man get one, every great man get two. Maybe even three, says the center, whose name is. Oh, no. I got it. I got it. Cade Mays, they're on to their third center. On to their third center. Damn. On to their third right guard, too. Harold Goodwin, Joe Gilbert. You guys remember Joe Gilbert? Oh, yeah. Doing a good job with their offensive line down there. A ton of injuries. Robert Hunt's out. There's also a watering hole down there. What's the name of that watering hole?

2:46:29Pat McAfee:I got the hoodie. Remember the bar down there? And then Charlotte. I got the hoodie. They sent it to me. Dale Jr.? No, Dale Jr. got good. He had a good place. I don't know if it still does. If he does, you need to go to Whiskey River, maybe is what his place is called. Yeah. That was right near the Howl at the Moon, which was Doling Piano Place, which had a bridge that connected to the hotel I was staying at. And I'll tell you what, that was way too easy of access for me to be able to get there and get out. I forget the name of the place. Down in Charlotte? Yeah. Joe G goes there and drinks all their beer.

2:47:01Pat McAfee:Of course. And he said, hey, we watch your show in there once in a while. And I'm like, coach, that's awesome. And then he sent me a sweatshirt, and it's a great sweatshirt. It's like a light blue one. I forget the name of it. God, I feel bad. Like the bar or something? Yeah, I forget the name. But I wore it. It was very nice to them. I guess they got great cold beer down from what I've been told. And I'll tell you what, Charlotte, good city. Oh, yeah. Great city. Carolina Panthers being good would be great for that city. Any of their teams being good would be great for their city. Charlotte is a great city.

2:47:29Pat McAfee:Good hosting city.

2:47:30AQ Shipley:Great city. I was there 2011 for one year. I can imagine how much they've grown and how much better of a city now. And to that point, when that was Cam's rookie year, and they had a good stretch when he was there where that city was buzzing. Obviously, you know, Carolina, you got a good football team. that going to show up.

2:47:45Pat McAfee:I think it was a lot of rooftop stuff down there in Charlotte. From my recollection, I spent some time in the offseason down there a few different times, had a couple friends that lived in that city. A lot of West Virginia people head down to Charlotte. It shuts off at like 5, 6 o 'clock because it's a banking city, but then there's like a lot of rooftop stuff that kind of happens and then it has a good vibe. Like Charlotte has a really good vibe. Would be cool if their team was good. Sounds like through their offensive line they got a chance. Congrats to Tepper. You know, much different times.

2:48:11Pat McAfee:Now Jerry Jones is doing stuff to fans. Exactly. Well, he meant to... AJ, did you hear that? He meant to give a thumbs up or maybe a pointer even. The middle finger just pops out there every time. I think that holds up. You think they shave off 100K of that fine, maybe? I think he would love to defend himself in that court. Now, I know what you've done with a couple of the other guys that have been in here. For me, it's very reasonable. I'm almost fucking 90 years old. You try to put your thumb up when you're 90 years old, maybe every once in a while with the laugh you've been through, that middle finger just fucking follows it.

2:48:44Pat McAfee:You know what I'm saying? You never know what that person was saying to me either. I don't have that on camera. He said a lot of bad things about me and my family. Isn't he a big Eminem guy? That's how Eminem does it in the movie. I thought that was the whole entire reason. Everybody in 313. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was always a thumbs out guy. There's a chance. I mean, Jerry Jones, I think he throws a multitude of middle fingers. I would assume so. I think he's got a lot in his bag. I think he can drop that thing sideways on you. I think he'll take that thing out. Oh, what's this? out of the pocket.

2:49:11Pat McAfee:Fuck you, Michael. You know, the people that do the makeup, they're like, oh, wait a second, let me check. But boom, how about that one right there? And then bang, let me go ahead and get that. Then the, you know, that's why. I think he probably has an abundance of fuck yous, if I had to guess. That's why not knowing you're doing it is, he's an expert with you. Yeah, mm-hmm. That's a, maybe he did lose that fastball. The middle finger fastball. Mm-hmm. A lot of these old games are these days. Feels like it, doesn't it? It's a bummer. Not really, but... I mean, life. Time. Passes. Time.

2:49:48Pat McAfee:Why you punish me. Can you think about tomorrow and all the pain and sorrow running free? Because tomorrow is just another day. And I don't believe in time Time you ain't no friend of mine But time gets everybody. That's basically what that song is all about. Undefeated. There's a couple things in this world. Time is certainly one of them. Let's talk about the number one performing offensive line in week five in the trenches, the Washington Commander. Yeah. Wow. A.Q. Shipley, how come the Washington Commanders are the number one performing offensive line I know where the Indianapolis Colts, we just beat the Raiders by fucking 100.

2:50:40Yeah, well, they didn't run the ball very well, and they had Max Crosby and the boys on the other side stopping the run. But they had touchdowns. He had 60 yards and averaged less than three yards a carry. But who's counting? But the Commanders, unbelievable. Commanders, really good. Cliff Kingsbury in his bag, as usual. One of my favorite plays I used to run when Cliff was there. If you watch, Zach Ertz. Bluff the end, climb up, does a great job locking up the linebacker. Watch Tyler Biotis. Chris Paul with the kickout. Biotis around, seal the edge. How easy is that? That's a big

2:51:08Pat McAfee:gaping hole. Between the sideline and any member of the Chargers there. Wow, is this all game like this? So they're leading the Chargers. AQ, explain that. Is that Derwin James out there on Ertz? That is Derwin James outside. That's not on Ertz. Ertz gets inside. But right here that screws him though because he's got him man to man. Okay, I got him. I got him. He goes in. I still think he may be running the route and it makes you take yourself out of the play and you're out leveraged already right here. Both two guys. That's exactly what this tight end bluff does. Whenever you have a tight end, you do not want to put him on the defensive end.

2:51:40So you bluff, you send him inside. That takes Derwin Jones because you can see him stacked right there over top of Ertz. He's got him in man. It sets up the block for Biotish and everything is all downhill from there.

2:51:50Pat McAfee:That's actual chess there. I rolled some jujitsu with Matt Matreon and Chris Lytle. And I don't think Matt Matreon is known as a good jujitsu roller. I don't think people would say this guy's big strength is jujitsu. I don't think he would say that. We rolled. I tapped out. End of the story. Long story short, I tapped out four times in a minute. It was not. It ended with both my arms being broke. At one point, I thought I was doing pretty good. I thought I had him. He's a big lad. Obviously, former New York Giant football player from Purdue. Then he goes on to UFC. He has a great career. Then he also went into what was that one?

2:52:29Pat McAfee:He knocked out the Russian guy. Strike force or whatever? bellator bellator bellator no it was great career from around here and we're rolling or whatever in the basement of this house that was a jam that was very uh i'd say uh gritty is a good way to describe it who knows how many bones have been broken there and i thought i had them and then all of a sudden he would just like uh stab right underneath my ribs like he would take his fingers and stab my ribs which would make me automatically move like this and as soon as i move like this he puts his arm right around it's like he's doing three things to my body just for me to adjust that's what that play is doing right there.

2:53:03Pat McAfee:You're forcing Derwin James down, giving the leverage immediately to the guard that's pulling there. Yeah, the center that's pulling. It makes it an easy block for him. Like he already made the block. It's like that's actual chess. That's like actual setting things up. And they have to react that way. Like whenever he's stabbing underneath my ribs, I don't know how they don't. My body naturally goes, ah, just like a little bit. And all that half inch or centimeter took, boom, he got me on the other side. Derwin James steps in one foot, Even if it's not as far as he did on this particular play, it makes the life a lot easier for that center.

2:53:35Pat McAfee:And this is what you chit-chat about with play callers and play designers, like setting the offensive lineup for success, right? Isn't that kind of this entire conversation? Work smarter, not harder. I mean, and the good coordinators are finding ways to do it. And, again, the other thing that's not talked about enough either here is when they send that guy in motion, AJ, you know this, D-Butt, you know this, right? When they go that, now the tight end's by himself over here. That's called one by three. So everybody else is to the opposite side of the field. There's only one contained guy, and that's Derwin.

2:53:59AQ Shipley:You know he's in man coverage. Like A.J. said, when he's going down with that crack block, you've got to cover it like a crosser.

2:54:06Pat McAfee:Here's the top five performing offensive lines in week five. Congrats to the Washington Commanders picking up the throne. Carolina Panthers, big-time win against the Miami Dolphins, lands them at number two in the top five. Then the Dallas Cowboys, good for them. Four new pieces at the offensive line, staring into trenches celebration. Then Denver Broncos and Detroit Lions wrap up the top five. AQ, that's a cool photo of you with the boys flanking you there. Thank you for spotlighting the big boys and letting us know who's good, who's ass, and who's going to maybe go on a run if they end up on this particular list.

2:54:38Absolutely. The boys played well this week. The interesting thing is you don't have a clear cut number one, number two, number three like we did last year. It's something different every week. But how well the offensive line plays is how well the team's going to play.

2:54:48Pat McAfee:Well, the Colts, obviously, the best team in football. They are. They're scheming it up. They're scheming it up. Can you put that somehow? AJ, do you see them? I don't see them. They're up here a lot. You know, are you, like, the harshest critic because, you know, it's your old squad and you don't want to have to, like, pump them up and be like a homer? No, I love their group. I think they're a top five offensive line in the league for the whole season. I just didn't think they were top five worthy this week. Just took on Max Crosby and the boys and won by 100. They were in the backfield most of the game.

2:55:17Pat McAfee:Well, Max looks so cool, by the way. So cool. His shoes, awesome. So good. Everything, the swag is incredible. Get him out of there. now. Where? Max. No, he's a Raider. That's like a big part of why he hates so many people because people are saying he needs to move on. And then it's like, no, you're a Raider. You're a pillar guy. He is the perfect Raider, by the way. Yeah, he's the perfect Raider. And maybe it is fun. We should talk to Miles Garrett. Going 1-16 is probably sick. It's just one of those things. Don't you want to win a football game? And when we're talking about old guys losing it, I don't know if we can just let Pete Carroll slow.

2:55:56Oh! Guy was talking a lot of junk about winning games every single year before the season started. Now they're 1-4 and his pony, Geno Smith, the real hooper, if you will, after week one, looks like absolute shite, man. If you run back to Tyler Warren, by the way, holy fuck, I forgot about this. You run back to Tyler Warren touchdown, you see who's covering him, right? Try Tucker, their leading receiver this year, is covering Tyler Warren on his touchdown on Sunday. What's going on? If we run that play. What'd you say? Number 11, Trey Tucker, correct? Tucker is one. He changed it to number one.

2:56:32Okay, good. Thank goodness. Jeez Louise. I saw that today. I was about to say, how do we not? I thought that was Trey Tucker for a second.

2:56:37Pat McAfee:I thought we all missed this until today. Me too. I thought it was Trey Tucker. Okay, good. Okay, Travis Hunter, obviously going by. Me too. Thank God. Who is that, Jeremy Chin? Yes, that's Jeremy Chin. Phew. But on that note, look at the line. Put this screenshot. Don't press play. Just put, look at that. Wow. What are you talking about, bro? Queen pocket. Queen pocket. Best team in ball. Best team in ball. Can't crack your top five. I do think they're the best team right now, honestly. I like that. I like that. That's good news. And the good news is I've been hyping them as the best team for the last three years.

2:57:08Pat McAfee:So it's not like I can jinx it if I continue to talk about them being good. I've already done that enough. No, they're good. You're still first to the key. You're just a little late. Yeah, I was just a little early. Joe DeNardo. I was Joe DeNardo when I was forecasting. And joining us now is a list of defenses that are great and then a few that are terrible. It is time to go everything DB, good D, bad D, with Darius Butler. Now it seems like D-butt knows ball.

2:57:35AQ Shipley:Kind of timed up perfectly with what Conman was just talking about with Gino. He's been struggling this year in Vegas, throwing a bunch of picks, I think nine picks on a year now too this week. And up top, we got Makai Blackman. We got him. He was last year. He was with the Vikings. He got an opportunity this year to play a lot of football because of the injury to Jalen Jones. They brought over Xavier Howard. That didn't quite work out. So he's got back in the lineup and got a big time interception here. Here we got cover to trap. So this is a trap corner. He's really triggering on that number two receiver.

2:58:05AQ Shipley:So if you run it back to the beginning for Geno Smith, he sees split safety, maybe a cover to. If this receiver just sits between the flat defender and the hook curl defender, We can hit that in zone coverage all day, but instead he triggers it. This is that little anaerobic defense, little massages in certain coverage. It triggers that, picks it off, almost takes it to the crib, gets close with a big-time play and a big-time game. I mean, this was a straight belt to ask. 40-6, didn't give up any touchdowns, got a little blitz off the slot as well. Boom. I mean, rarely in the NFL as a DB do you get to a point where you're almost waiting for an interception.

2:58:42AQ Shipley:Like, he jumped that, and he was literally waiting for Geno to put it right between the 2 and the 5. And he did big-time play by Blackman.

2:58:50Pat McAfee:He knew exactly where they were going. 2-9, I'm sorry. Blackman actually, early in the game, kind of lost his footing in the turf, and somebody got a big reception on him. Yep. And it was like, man, who was that over there? It was Blackman. And then later in the game, obviously getting this pick, it was like you could tell that Blackman was like, damn, I can't believe because I tripped somebody got something on me, got back for the team. I think it was great to watch, and this defense is special.

2:59:14AQ Shipley:Yeah, defense is humming. I don't care who you're playing against. We talked about it earlier with one of the long runs. I don't care who you're lined up against in the NFL. If you are the better team, you should show up and beat the shit out of them. And to the Colts' credit, you put up that point differential early with the AFC South. I think the rest of the division kind of riding our coattail. We beat the dog shit out of the Dolphins to open up the season, and then beat the dog shit out of the Raiders. And that's what you're supposed to do if you are a good football team that considers yourself a contender.

2:59:39Pat McAfee:And I think we are. Here's a couple teams that are certainly trying to get into that conversation.

2:59:43AQ Shipley:Yeah, trying to get into that conversation and trying to get a win. You got to get a win week in and week out. And the Saints didn't have one coming into this game. Jackson darted in this offense. This team started off hot, but a big-time interception by Kool-Aid McKinstry. This was actually his second interception. This is a cover three fire zone. So you're going to rush five, and then you got three underneath, three deep. On the outside, it's pretty much man-to-man coverage. and it's just a great press rep. So great that the receiver quits on the ball. And you never want to do this with your quarterback, especially a young quarterback who's trying to find guys on the outside that he can have some confidence in.

3:00:20AQ Shipley:So he got his ass jammed up, and you'll see it even better from the replay. Receiver just stops running. Kool-Aid dives and makes a phenomenal catch, a big-time catch by Kool-Aid. Hey, Jay. Just helps secure this first win. You're hanging your young guy out to dry. Yeah, absolutely. I feel for a quarterback there. Man. Great play, though. At least break it up.

3:00:38Pat McAfee:You know, that's like a bad one at all. He didn't think he was getting that ball, obviously, with how covered he was. Jackson Dart said, let me go ahead and let this thing fly. Incredible reaction time by Kool-Aid right there.

3:00:47AQ Shipley:Yeah, big-time player.

3:00:47Pat McAfee:That'd be so much fun to be that. Yeah, Phil. That'd be so cool to be that athletic. Just that quick of a reaction time, too.

3:00:53AQ Shipley:Good ball skills, man. You can never, you know, sometimes in certain play progressions, pass progression, AQ will notice certain receivers may not anticipate getting the ball based on the coverage or where guys are on defense. We saw it. It was a talking point with the Eagles and A.J. Brown with the, oh, he stopped running or he slowed down. And it's one of those things that don't show up until it shows up. The one time you slow down the route, the quarterback takes a chance to throw it to you. So I'm sure he heard this a lot from whoever his receivers coach is, from the head coach. I'm sure this is probably played on the big screen in the team meeting.

3:01:23AQ Shipley:You can't leave a young quarterback out dry.

3:01:25Pat McAfee:Top left corner there, it had Dallas 30, New York Jets 14. Just in drumming. As the Giants are throwing up another pick, and the guys all said the New York Jets getting killed up here, just New York people watching the game. Just got a little twofer here for you. Don't you worry about it. Okay, what do we have next?

3:01:39AQ Shipley:Next, we got another big AFC East matchup. We all watched this one. This is a big moment in the game, too. Right now, the Patriots are up three, and the Bills are high red area. So, 13-10. And now you got Josh Allen, one of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League. So, defensively, you got kind of man-to-man coverage, but you got two. If you let it run a little bit, you'll have two, like, low rat defenders. and these rat defenders also can act as like spies on Josh Allen. So you see like the two linebackers around the hash mark. If 17 was to tuck the ball and take off, they would be in pass coverage, obviously.

3:02:14AQ Shipley:But when he takes off the run, they would trigger to go and tackle him. But here, Marcus Jones does a great job knowing that he has help over the top. So once he dropped back, get ready to throw, he knows, boom, foot in the ground, undercut it, boom, and make a dive and catch. I mean, Marcus Jones obviously has phenomenal ball skills, great returner. the Patriots as well. It's a big-time play. You've got to make these plays. You know when you have a corner like Christian Gonzalez, who's not going to get a bunch of targets, or Carlton, when you're in there, you're going to get work in there. So make opportunity.

3:02:43AQ Shipley:Make the best of your opportunity. That's what Marcus Jones has been doing on defense and especially. I wonder if we see him on offense at all this year.

3:02:50Pat McAfee:Red zone turnover. Crazy.

3:02:51AQ Shipley:That's huge. Game changers.

3:02:53Pat McAfee:This is like three, four years ago for Josh Allen. Yeah. He clearly didn't know that he was going to be there. Was that a no-looker? Was he looking that off trying to move somebody?

3:03:02AQ Shipley:I think he was looking, but it's just so much, if you just pause it there, it's just so much for a quarterback even before those two lines, well, Gonzalez and them Spillane, I think that is, bites up on that low crosser. Before that, it's just so much color. Quarterbacks really see color. You see those blue jerseys, and then you say, okay, I know. Let me just try to throw him to a spot. So it's just a great job by Jones because sometimes when you're outside leverage like that, you're guarding an inside breaking route. It's tough to do, but knowing he has help, I think that made him gave him a little more confidence to undercut that and go make a big time play on the ball.

3:03:34Pat McAfee:He's looking right at it, right? He's staring it down. He looks so cool. Marcus Jones to be the best point is the one that if there are deep balls or passes down the field, they're not going on Gonzo or Carlton Davis. Marcus Jones is the guy that they're trying and it's been unbelievable. This is why the Patriots defense is a top three defense in the NFL right now because of how good they can cover and then they're second in pressure. It's one of the best units in the NFL. God, it feels good to be on good D, doesn't it, Connor? It feels real good to not be coming in here and just having to eat bad D.

3:04:11Every day.

3:04:11Pat McAfee:Every day. Every day. Bad D. Bad D. I don't like eating bad D. No, it's good D. It's good D. I don't want to watch that.

3:04:19AQ Shipley:A defense is going to be completely different whenever a guy like Christian Gonzalez plays. Now, he won't be on good D a bunch because he doesn't get the ball production. He doesn't get a bunch of interceptions because quarterbacks just don't throw. They don't test him often. But it helps the other players when they make those big-time plays. Now, we saw this same route from the same offense with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. They've made a bunch of touchdowns, made a bunch of money running this route, like a follow route. Once again, the same one we saw from the tip ball from Makuba earlier in the year.

3:04:52AQ Shipley:You'll see 87 moving around pre-snap. The Jaguars are ready for the route. They're anticipating a route. And Devin Lloyd, AJ, you can kind of speak to, I guess, what he's seeing and what he's doing here with this fake blitz and then dropping into the window and picking this off. Yeah, look at the double A gap. I don't know if the end zone view shows it better, but, yeah, you got linebackers, you're reading the center. So you're both blitzing, you're both A gaps. You see them up there. Whichever way the center turns, you engage quick while the other guy shoots, and then you pop out. This is exactly how you draw it up.

3:05:20Like this is clinic tape that you would show when you install this in the spring or summer whenever you do it. But, hey, pop in there, get his attention, then pop out. You get lost in the traffic. And, you know, this is best-case scenario right here, get in the throwing lane, catch it, take it to the house.

3:05:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, being able to finish is obviously absurd, especially with how comfortable he looked immediately afterwards. He didn't look like he was dying for air. Taequann Thornton almost catches up to him with a JHA block there. But let's talk a little bit about the center turning and then choosing to go the opposite direction. He fakes that he's going there just to keep the center's eyes? Is that what you're saying? A little bit, yeah. I don't know if we have the end zone or not, but you see them, they both attack the A gaps. And then when the center decides, Hey, I'm turning right or left, you you'll talk to your two backers.

3:06:01You'll sit there and you'll stay in the line. A Q has had to deal with this a million times. I'm sure you're sitting there and thinking, all right, Hey, here you can, you'll start to listen and get an idea of which way the center is going to turn before the snap, hopefully. But then boom, you're just reacting off of it. If he turns away from you, bam, I'm shooting, trying to get the quarterback, other guy pop out, get in the throwing lane. This is what we do. What is the center's decision-making process? So the protection call sends them one way or another. And so whenever you had teams like this, so like, AJ, you know, whenever we used to play against Zimmer, you punt block, and you just go straight back and don't declare one way or another to try and screw him up.

3:06:36But the minute that Creed Humphrey goes left, you know that the guy to Creed's right is going to blitz, and the guy from the left is going to block out. He did do a good job. Creed did a good job of punt blocking here, too. He didn't give it away. He didn't jump right or left. He did a good job punt blocking, too.

3:06:48AQ Shipley:You want to replay, Foxy, the TV replay? It might be a little – might show a little – Look, he goes straight – yeah, he goes straight back. Like, that's a great job by those guys on D. Because Creed does a good job. That's the toughest thing to read when he does go straight back like this. Great play. And then you think – the first thing I thought, because I saw this play, I'm like, damn, how does a linebacker go 99 yards? Obviously, you make a great move on Patrick Mahomes. But if I'm thinking fastest wide receiver unit in the league right now, it's probably the Chiefs. You think of Thornton, Hollywood, Xavier.

3:07:18AQ Shipley:and then none of these, only Thornton was on the field. It was Thornton, Juju, but Thornton was the only fast guy on the field. We talked about it yesterday with Hines Allen just making that one little bump because we're always taught with the interceptions, you know, you try to block the intended receiver and you block the quarterback. So just him peeking last minute 41, running his ass off and then peeking, just giving him a little bump. He still caught up to him, but he didn't catch up to him early enough to punch it out. Way to hang on. Great ball security through the fucking goal line. offensive players pay attention.

3:07:49AQ Shipley:But great job, Devin Lloyd. Coming off of his best, probably game as a pro last week, and he had two interceptions, a sack, and a forced fumble. And one AFC Defensive Player of the Week. Now let's get to some bad... Oh, no! Somebody, but you, who mentioned the Jets' stinky, stinky defense earlier? That was you. I think you asked JJ about it. This is an example of that. Because if we line up here, we know what the Cowboys were coming in this game or who they were coming in this game without. was without cd lamb right so we all know target number one would be george pickens especially when you're at this alum in the alumni section where you'd like to take shots first and 10 we got george pickens at the bottom and we got wide receiver two up at the top so if the safety took pick inside he drops down into the coverage so that lets that press guy know even though he's in play actually as soon as he gets his eyes back okay there's no safety help like zero safety help So it is Sauce Gardner down there, one of the best, I think, highest-paid corner in the league right now.

3:08:47AQ Shipley:So, yeah, Sauce Island, leave him on the island. But it just doesn't make sense to me defensively why leave any of my players on the island with their best one-on-one downfield receiver if you don't have to. So they got two guys covering the other guy. He's wide open. Two-man route, too. Yeah. We don't need to leave a guy on the island with a two-man route. Exactly. Two-man route. You got a double team on one guy who's still open in the National Football League, and then you leave them one-on-one with Sauce down the field. And George Pickens does what George Pickens does. We see this play. Anybody can see this play on Madden.

3:09:18AQ Shipley:And, okay, I'm going to throw it up number three and give him a shot. And that's what Dak does. Jeez. Give him an opportunity to make a big play down.

3:09:23Pat McAfee:AQ, what are you giggling about? He's cackling over here, AQ. He's got the hot gut going. I mean, they are so bad right now. Yeah. That guy gets paid$100 million, and that's what he does. I think what D-Bunch is saying, though, it's not just Sauce. It's like the whole strategy scheme decisions. It's Aaron Glenn going over there with his defensive guy.

3:09:44AQ Shipley:Yeah, I don't care how good your player is or how good you are. Like, if you only have – A.J. mentioned it. It's only a two-man route. And, like, that's clearly why receiver one. George Pickens is coming off his biggest game as a Cowboy. So, you're covering it. Like, it just doesn't make sense. And, you know, some people say, why wasn't a flag thrown? Like, it's a lot of hand fighting both ways there with the receiver, with the corner, so they didn't throw it either way. Aaron Glenn, though, right?

3:10:07Pat McAfee:I naturally assume that he's going to have a good defense. Oh, yeah. I think we all do. Probably Jets fans. Especially with all the talent that the Jets have on their defense. That has been the story the last several years when Rodgers got there. Hey, this team might win the Super Bowl because their defense is already ready to go. And then even this year, yeah, we don't know about the offense, but we know the defense is going to be unbelievable, and they've looked like hammered dog shite so far. Oh, stop. They're building up. What were you guys MCDCs first year, Foxy?

3:10:32JJ Watt:We were 0-10 year one, and then year two we started out 1-6, and then after the 1-6, that's when everything went.

3:10:40Pat McAfee:All right, so we've got some patience. I will say, and I shouldn't say it, but there was a time in the era with Aaron Glenn as DC where a big chunk of Lions fans did not like him

3:10:51JJ Watt:because they were letting a lot of points up on the defensive side.

3:10:55Pat McAfee:Well, people forget that. People forget. Fox, they're remembering it now, though. Well, they fired somebody, right, to save his job. DB coach. DB coach. DB coach. I remember that story. And you got much better after that. They did. They did. They did. They did right away. I said, come on in. Yeah. Need you. Okay. And now we got a team that's been on the receiving end of the in the trenches and now on the receiving end of the Bad D Award. Oh, no.

3:11:19AQ Shipley:It's tough to be a giant fan, it feels like. Go ahead, D. Yeah, it is. And we all remember a guy who last year kind of took the NFL by storm early on, Rashid Shahid. He is a big play waiting to happen. And right now he's kind of in that cut split. Once the motion comes over, he'll be in that slot. And this is another thing with, as you're at this safety, Neuben is his name, right, Bruce? Back here, 2-7 down to the bottom of the field. He'll get put in a tough situation because now he's going to end up, and he's not too deep. He's probably about nine yards from the ball. So you let this ball snap.

3:11:52AQ Shipley:That's a lot of speed. And you pause it right here. So now with a two-man route once again to the left, as this safety, because you're pretty much on the island with this deep ball. You do have help to your right. You know you have another deep safety to your right, so I would say keep your leverage to the outside and use your help. He does not. It's a good route. Give a little post corner here. Spencer Rattler makes a great throw under pressure. He's been playing well, but this is his first win as a starting quarterback, and this is a big part. Once again, big-time moment in the game. Down two points right here with the Saints.

3:12:26AQ Shipley:Good route, good ball, and that safety is put in a tough, tough spot.

3:12:30Pat McAfee:So what is that, AJ? The guy took two wrong steps and all of a sudden it's a fucking house call? Yep. What a nightmare. It's a great rep, but if you look at this, it's easy sitting here in air conditioning and talk about it, but look how much help he has if he stays outside leverage. Look at that. How many guys have you got over there on the other side of the field? Four. He's got a lot of buddies over there to help, so I'm like, I've got to stay outside somehow, even though you think he's run that deep over, but bam, he snaps it off and here we go.

3:12:56AQ Shipley:And it's a good route concept. of you run it back because that outside receiver that motions over he holds that corner to make sure that you know if I do under throw this a little bit this corner doesn't help but yet I don't think he helped himself from the get-go from his alignment he wasn't deep enough and then he didn't start gaining depth when you run if you run it back to the beginning as a deep half safety depth is your friend you want to keep everything in front of you so right now one of the fastest players in the league and he's already on your toes like at this point like you're already in trouble.

3:13:26AQ Shipley:Even if he just runs straight, runs a post, I don't think either one of these safety had enough depth. You only had really one wide receiver split out pre-snap, first down. You're probably thinking maybe a run play big bodies, and boy, it turned into a big play fast.

3:13:39Pat McAfee:What's that route called?

3:13:40AQ Shipley:Post corner. Love it.

3:13:42Pat McAfee:That'd be so much fun to be able to do. So many things that'd be cool to be able to do. Just run a post corner right now. Get from the line of scrimmage to the end zone. At full speed, would be cool to be able to do at this stage of life let alone make somebody turn around full spin in the middle of the field he's a real weapon we forget about him because the saints have been such ass what were you gonna say con man yeah exactly exactly that he his stats next to jamison williams stats and jamison williams is considered you know one of the best deep ball threats out there i would guess he's better than him and they've played the exact same amount of games i believe actually he might have played one less game than jamison williams and he's got more yards more catches, more touchdowns.

3:14:23It's just situations. It's just like Max Crosby, man. What you're saying. I was good. Might as well ship Max Crosby to Detroit. I mean, that's the only place he wants to go. From Michigan? Let's bring him to the Colts.

3:14:38Pat McAfee:I thought the Colts liked their guys. They do like their guys. We wouldn't mind some new guys, though. We brought some new guys in during the offseason. We just brought in new guy Pratt. But he's old guy to Lou. Have you seen what we've been doing over here? We're only getting better, AJ. We're getting more lose guys in here. Pie zones coming in. Some guys with some grit and some toughness, too. I like it. Bringing guys in that won't just add to this great defense. Grit and job, of course. Speaking of grit and job, you deserve all the praise for the work you put in for that. Maybe he bought the work.

3:15:11Pat McAfee:Hey, Kush, listen. Yesterday, we had a guy bury four straight putts, so I don't want to put that on you. But I do think you should at least do a giveaway here, okay? Because we're heading into week six. of the NFL season, week seven of college football already. Okay, let's do it. Okay, so let's enjoy it all. What do you want to do? You want to throw a football? You want to shoot a basketball? Let's throw a football. It's football season. It is football season, isn't it? It is hump day, too, as we all see. And on this glorious Wednesday, AQ Shipley can try to win 15 people. There you go. $500. All you got to do is put that particular football, baby Duke, into that hoop right over there that has a chain net that has been ripped because people have been splashing on it.

3:15:46For instance, Evan Fox yesterday went 10 for 10 around the horn.

3:15:53Pat McAfee:Five spots, three-pointer, NBA three-pointers. Off the couch, first game, 10 for 10. We won the game 33 in the first round. First round. Yeah, you also won 7 of 10. I did pretty good, but let's not talk about that. Foxy won 10 for 10, all splashies. Crazy. We're breaking the chain net over here. That's how good Foxy's become. I believe it. I mean, Foxy's a natural athlete. We've seen him. Is there anything Foxy can't do in any sport? Yeah, any sport that's tough, he quit football in the eighth grade. Physicality. Soccer. I've never been good at soccer. Physicality, I think. Any physicality, there's a potential problem.

3:16:25Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. I did quit football, too. Oh, yeah. How about wrestling? You think you'd be a good wrestler? Absolutely not. You ever play hockey? You grew up in Michigan. You must have played hockey. I did play hockey, but I had to choose basketball. Hindsight, I probably would have been a better hockey player. What? What are you talking about? Pretty good jump shot, Foxy. I don't know. You should have committed to basketball more, I think. I mean, Jesus back here. Especially in the world that we're in. But yeah, he's been splashing this thing. It's been going crazy. McJesus just took$8 million less a year.

3:16:51Pat McAfee:What are you doing, McJesus? Team car. I love what he's doing. I respect it so much.

3:16:58Darius Butler:They better win. He went to them for the contract, too, to get it done.

3:17:03Pat McAfee:Do you know how it makes the sport look, though?

3:17:06Darius Butler:Yeah.

3:17:06Pat McAfee:When the best guy they sign, hey, this guy you never fucking heard has just signed for four years,$700 million NBA. Hey, this guy you never fucking heard of just signed four years,$500 million. MLB. Hey, this guy you never fucking heard of in the NFL just signed four years,$40 million. Fuck. Then the NHL. The best player in the league just signed two years,$12.5 million per year. It's like, whoa. You think that's a good thing? What? Hey, the best fucking player since Wayne Gretzky just signed for, you know. Peanuts. Yeah, literal peanuts. I don't think that's good for the league optically, but I'd like to let everybody know.

3:17:42Pat McAfee:It's awesome that that is the type of guy that is playing in the NHL, though. Which, once again, goes back to the respect we have for the sport and why the sport is awesome. But I didn't like the way that looked against the other numbers. I'm like, the NHL is just the best player. His contract's up? Man. He's a gentleman. Yeah, the comparisons are bad if you haven't seen them yet. Contracts, other contracts in other sports? Yeah. Someone said Conor McDavid's the greatest player in the NHL right now, and he's making 12.5 a year. And then someone said Stephen Adams is averaging three points for the Houston Rockets, and he's making$13 million a year right now.

3:18:22Those are big three points. Room protection. My bad, my bad. I can't leave this out. Six rebounds a game as well.

3:18:28Pat McAfee:Thank you. Yeah, it's on defense. Let alone the tone that's being set as soon as he steps foot on a court. That's what it's worth. But I appreciate Connor McDavid doing that. That's really cool to build up the team. I hope they win a cup. but also I think a lot of people saying I'm not doing hockey as a kid it's a tough sport, it's a really tough sport it's a beautiful sport great sport you know what would be a good sport? you, if you put that ball into that hoop right over there 15 people,$500 AJ Hawk's going to give you a motivational speech here does he have his ears in, he can still hear me?

3:18:58he can see you yesterday I told BA yesterday he's going to make 4 out of 4 and he did make 4 out of 4 so I think you're definitely going to make this especially with those sweet Cam Haines shoes on They look even better now that you're standing.

3:19:09Pat McAfee:I like that AJ said, I got a lot of shit yesterday for what I said to BA. Turns out I was right. Okay, so let's make sure we remember that. Ty, anything to say to AQ in those sweet shoes that he's wearing, the speed bounds? Yeah, I would say AQ, you know, there were 40 winners yesterday. So if you want to go ahead and throw this thing up in the fucking mezzanine, go ahead. Don't be scared. Yeah, go to the program. I don't think we need to be. Maybe you're punting it out there. Yeah, I don't know if we need to be trying to make this one. No, on that note, I think you would be big time babyface if you were to make that for 15 people, make their lives better.

3:19:37Pat McAfee:But Darius J. Butler has something to say to you before you go ahead and let this one fly.

3:19:40AQ Shipley:I would say pump up and tighten up those shoes. Pump it up. Throw this ball. There we go. There we go. Boy, I wish he kissed. I was going to say, that's pretty cool. Dee Brown before the dunk contest. Yep.

3:19:54Pat McAfee:That is sick. All right, he might have cut off circulation to his feet with that. I don't know how active he's feeling at this moment, but it might be a gift and a curse, these speed man's having so many capabilities to maybe tighten it up a little bit. Boston Connor has the last message for you here. Just think about what Clyde Christensen would tell you if he was here as a quarterback coach. He'll probably keep that elbow tight maybe. Yeah, there you go. Score the shoulders. Yep, yep. Right, right, right, right. OC Poorhouse is the place down in Carolina. You should definitely go check out. I'm sure Clyde Christensen has not been there, but he does fancy himself a Charlotte and North Carolina man himself.

3:20:29Pat McAfee:Hey, Q, all you got to do is put that football into the hoop and 15 lives will be better because you are a great athlete. Penn State can't get the job done, but can AQ Shipley? We shall see. Hell yeah. For the people, AQ. Best effort. Ooh. Pretty good ball. Pretty good. Pretty good. That was a good attempt. Pretty good. You'll get one more. Okay, you'll get one more. That'll act as a range check. Okay? This is your last throw, though. Okay. This is it. Okay. 15 people,$500. You put that ball into that hoop right over there. All people have to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody.

3:21:00Pat McAfee:Maybe to AQ. Because he's pretty aggressive today, wearing a maroon hoodie like this. I like it. With the khaki? Good look. Really good. Good fit. Maybe they can say that to you and say something nice to somebody else, and they can maybe win$500 because you're such a damn good athlete, AQ. Whip you a Hall of Famer for basketball. Super Bowl champion in football. Your worlds could come together here. Put the football in the basketball hoop. Go ahead, AQ. This guy's never going to do it. No. This guy's never going to do it. I thought we really had it. Before we get out of here, we do have to celebrate something.

3:21:32Pat McAfee:um ladies and gentlemen there's obviously one half of the hammer down cowboys in ap tone but the other half of the hammer down cowboys is a man from canada who was a ship painter i believe for 16 or 17 years and while he was in the belly of those ships he would be listening to different shows as he tried to pass the time he'd wake up he'd put on his paint suit and his lack of mask and he would go paint the shit out of these ships up there in Canada. And I'm sure it was cold as balls. You're talking about a guy that would show up every day, not only for the ships, but for his family, for his friends.

3:22:10Pat McAfee:Work his ass off. And he listened to shows, and all of a sudden, a group of idiots from Indianapolis cracked into his ears. Then he called into said program one time, and he was electrifying. I thought his name was Dump. Turns out it's Gump, because this guy was a great soccer player. He's obviously a great friend, and we're lucky as hell that he's a member of our team. And ladies and gentlemen, certainly the oldest guy of the bunch. It is Gumpy's birthday today. Hell yeah, Gumpy. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you, buddy. Happy birthday, dear Gumpy. Hey. Happy birthday To you To you Good luck and happy here Thank you boys Canadian Ty actually has a message for you Before you give your speech Yeah listen Paul I'd just like to say I hope those fucking knobs and muppets You know start showing up for you On Monday nights and Tuesday nights And Wednesday nights and Thursday nights And Friday nights and Saturday nights Every morning as well and obviously Sundays.

3:23:25How about those fins? Hey, we're not dead yet, eh?

3:23:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're not dead yet, eh? And the bets are always alive, especially 4 a.m. We got fucking ping pong in China going on that we got to bet on. And we think this trip around the sun for you, Gumpy, you're going to win every single bet. Gumpy, AJ Hawk has a message to deliver you on your big birthday here. Well, Gump, first off, happy birthday. I was unaware that it was your birthday. You look great. I'm sure you feel great. Are you fully a U.S. citizen at this point? No.

3:23:51Darius Butler:Not quite yet. We're getting there, AJ. Thank you, bro. We're on We're on the track though, right? We're on pace? Absolutely. Okay, it's going to happen in no time. Trains at the station. We know that.

3:23:59Pat McAfee:And said train that we're going to have to get on is going to have to be studying of a test that is recalling information that he hasn't done since high school. So we think he's certainly already working on that and studying that. And Gumpy, we love you, buddy. Happy birthday. We appreciate the hell out of you.

3:24:13Darius Butler:Love you, Gump. Thank you, guys. I love you. Appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. Very lucky to be here with you guys.

3:24:19Pat McAfee:We're thankful you're here. Hey, go Dolphins. Go Dolphins. Hey, go Red Sox, eh? Go Canes. Hey, go Texas hockey, eh? We're going out. Go Liverpool. You'll never walk along, Gump. Yeah, you'll never walk along with Liverpool. And Inter-Miami, they're going to figure it out. Oh, yeah.

3:24:34AQ Shipley:Of course.

3:24:35Pat McAfee:And those bastards at Barcelona or Real Madrid, whoever you lose on every single weekend, they'll figure it out this year as well, Gumpy. Who are your go-tos? Who are your regulars that have been letting you down like a fucking knob?

3:24:47Darius Butler:Real Madrid and Barcelona. So start of the year, there's no Champions League, so you can really hammer them. It's win, win, win. But then you get the Champions League midweek. The other teams aren't playing during the week. You kind of get God on the weekends. It's awesome. Yeah, we're in the mix right now.

3:25:01Pat McAfee:He's so mad. Just notification pops up. These fucking Muppets. Yeah. I had so much faith in these boys. I met these boys. It's like, who are you talking? He's all by himself. He's talking to himself. It's just me and him in a room. And he's just saying this not to me. He's speaking a different direction. He thinks they can hear him, I think.

3:25:22Darius Butler:The worst one was on Sunday, Lewandowski, who we interviewed when we were in Barcelona. I live bet Barcelona double chance. They were down 1-0, hammered them. I thought it was the best bet I ever made. They get a penalty shot in like the 65th minute. Lewandowski steps up, never misses a penalty, puts this thing five yards wide. Fucking no! It was as bad as it gets. Come on, man.

3:25:45Pat McAfee:I forget who it was. There was somebody. I mean, last week, you guys were traveling for game day, and I came in. We come in, and it was after the Sox-Yankees game two or three. I honestly forget about it. And it was after Thursday night football, and I see a tweet from Gumpy at like 1230, and it's New Mexico State football. I'm like, how is he going from baseball that started at three to New Mexico State? Who gives a fuck university? And then we're on playing at six. Yeah. I'm playing at 6 a.m. So then we'll be sitting on the plane, and I passed. I didn't see New Mexico. I didn't see him. Never a doubt.

3:26:22Pat McAfee:That's on me 100%. And then he will mention somebody's name from the team. Like, oh, Johnson last night. There it is. And I'm like, who? What? Who are you talking about? New Mexico State corner. This guy fucking locked down. He had 17 pass defense last night. It's like, what? It is me. It is the most obscure shit. Unreal. And when these guys let him down, they need to know. It takes it personal, I feel like. It's like a friend kicked him in the balls. That is literally what the reaction is. Him upset, yelling at clouds when we're the only people around each other is one of my favorite things. Just a full public outburst.

3:27:04Pat McAfee:And it's like about what? Something happened in fucking Italy. What the fuck, man? And everybody looks over at him. And then it's like, what happened? He goes, fucking Muppets. can't put a ball away. And I go, were you supposed to win? He goes, should have tied at least. And then he goes, right back to it. There's another bet coming. Yeah. Now we're riding the wave of whoever's next. I get back on the right track, I guess. Liverpool can't let me down again.

3:27:34Darius Butler:We will tonight. We got a midweek QSA, boys, party in the QSA tonight.

3:27:38Pat McAfee:Okay, and who are we like?

3:27:40Darius Butler:We got Missouri State playing. And I do like Liberty. going into UTEP tonight. They're laying a point. I like them on the list.

3:27:49Pat McAfee:And that's exactly what I'm talking about right there. You just heard it. All the people just heard it for real. I like Liberty going into UTEP tonight. And if Liberty does not, every person that plays for Liberty that he knows the name of or anybody associated with the college will get fucking undressed just at some moment. But if they win, Gumpy enjoys it for about half a second and then bang, we're on to the next bet. He's at the Mack Brown stage of Gambling where losing is devastating and anger. Winning is just a relief. Let's get to the next bet. Gumpy, this year, let's take these wins in a little bit more and enjoy them.

3:28:24Pat McAfee:Let's not worry about the losses that the fucking Muppets continue to put you through. Happy birthday. We love you. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Tone, why don't you make your way out here? On my way. We're all strapped around here. Did you hear him say that, AJ? Oh, yeah. Incredible. Just a little heads up, Tony wanted to say. All right. Great work. You look really cool. You do. You do look really cool today. Sure. AQ, good work, brother. Sorry you didn't win anything for anybody. Happy birthday, Gumpy. One day. We can't wait to listen to Hammered Down as we have a birthday celebration of Gumpy coming up, I assume.

3:29:02Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. AQ, anything you say to the team? Five guys on the same page. Next week, O-line dominates. Oh, I like that. D-Butch, great work this week. Anything you say to the boys? No, AQ said it all. Things a little different with DBs, but maybe not. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.