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17:06Pat McAfee:So it's like this could be a real swing. Tough situation. Obviously mismanaged. And then Garrett Wilson comes out afterwards and goes, I had no idea what the plan was. And when I heard what the plan was, I was disappointed. I don't love it. But there was one answer, we think. Every team is going to talk about this situation around the league we do think there was an answer yeah they're

17:25Adam Schefter:short around the league but i think it was just a hell mary you get to that point until you're like we just saw a first year head coach kind of learn something in real time we always hear head coaches say hey there is no manual that comes with it and it's easy for us especially once the half is over to say we got to say but uh yeah you just got to throw the hell mary there give yourself a chance to get something positive there but he was like it has to be last play of Got to be last play. Yeah, that ball's getting snapped three seconds, four seconds, or whatever.

17:49Pat McAfee:And if you wanted to do the out, you would have to do like six, five seconds so that maybe you'd get one more play. If you want to get closer, maybe kick a field goal, get a little bit closer there. But if you drop that or don't complete that, they got to play. They got to play and they'll go any other way. There was a lot going on. But I think with how shite the game was, that situation happening, and it being the Jets franchise, just kind of this is a con show. Why is this what we would send to London? Kind of rude of us. Yeah, it also wasn't even just that last play. Like, their whole, that whole drive.

18:18Like, Kurt Warner was losing his mind for the entire two minutes. It was, yes, the last play or whatever, but the whole drive was a weird situation.

18:25Pat McAfee:Aaron Glenn was then asked afterwards if Justin Fields was still going to be the quarterback. And he had a little bit of a reaction about how dumb of a question that was, basically. He has come out since then and said this.

18:37Adam Schefter:You know what? Here's what, you know, I thought about this a lot last night. And I thought about the question that was asked. and when you look at what Justin did, the games that he played, I didn't think he was bad at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good things in those four games. In this fifth game, he took a step back, you know, and I'm with you guys 100%, and we can't have that. You know, we have to get better than that, and he knows that, and he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I don't think you just try to bench a player after having one true bad game, because I thought the other games he played fairly well.

19:09Pat McAfee:Aaron Glenn's got his players back. I think that's what you're hearing right there. And I'd like to think that literally right before half, that whole thing, he was just trying to get to the locker room. I think he was just trying to get to the locker room, however the hell we can get to the locker room. Right now, they're going to say the clock's going to run to zero, and we're going to be able to go inside if we don't do anything else. Let's do that. Let's get the hell out of here. This Denver Broncos defense is no joke. I mean, they are on a historic run. Vance Joseph right now is on pace for 85 sacks, their defense, which would crush the record of 72, obviously, which is the previous record.

19:42Pat McAfee:They're averaging five sacks per game, and they have a 10-sack lead on the rest of the NFL right now. So this Jets offense, there certainly might be some question marks. And Justin Fields might not be a top-five quarterback in the NFL at this stage of his career or maybe ever in his career whenever it comes to delivering the ball and point guarding and everything like that. But I think this Denver Broncos defense is a defense that will expose you. I think they will expose whether or not you have a good quarterback or a good offense. So I think it's a good kind of thermostat or a kind of judgment, a good comp on how you're going to be.

20:13Pat McAfee:They're going to do that to a lot of teams that don't have great options.

20:15Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah, great litmus test because when you go, it's not just the quarterback. It's the offensive coordinator. It's the offensive line. It's the running backs. Are you going to be able to protect because they're going to keep applying pressure, which a couple weeks ago when they came and played the Colts and they came down that last-second field goal, they blitzed Daniel Jones like 70 % of his dropbacks and only sacked him once. So that lets you know how well the Colts are being coached So I know Daniel Jones is playing the quarterback.

20:38Pat McAfee:On that note, let's go to number three headline show. Oh, wee boy. Six weeks into the season, we see some MVP.

20:44Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah.

20:45Pat McAfee:Oh, we see some out there. Now, there's a couple omitted, all right, if their team lost. Sure. Okay, so if their team lost, we weren't going to put them on here. Okay, and if their team almost got close to losing to Joe Flacco's team, we all know we didn't put them on here. It wasn't his fault, but I get it. Okay, so there's a couple quarterbacks that are certainly in the running, especially whenever it comes to the odds if you're betting on them, but their teams didn't win so we didn't put them up here there's also a quarterback that's 40 plus years old yeah that is not even on the odds really and if the pittsburgh steelers continue to win they're four and one they already have their buy it's going to be a long road but if they end up 14 and three like whatever the case if they just continue to do that aaron rogers name is definitely going to be up for mvp i mean that's if you want to sprinkle that right now you probably get some incredible odds on it but we're seeing about six guys they got some big time dubs that we're appreciate and respect in their game.

21:32Pat McAfee:Baker Mayfield, let's go to number six, shall we? This guy's awesome. This guy is awesome. Everything about him. Stop, explodes through his upper body, and all Baker does is get up and say, yep, give me more of that. Give me more. His entire energy has radiated through the entire Tampa Bay area, not just obviously the locker room. They love this dude. I love this dude, and it's been incredible to watch him explode. Top four wide receivers out. Who cares? Give me Tez Johnson out of Oregon, D. Budge.

21:59Adam Schefter:I mean, some people are chanting MVP after this guy scores a touchdown, maybe hit this flip as well, but yeah. What Baker is doing right now, man, anybody that has that Buccaneers shit on, player, coach, training staff, fans, everybody associated with this team right now is buzzing because of what number six is doing at quarterbacks regardless of who's out there lined up with them. So shout out to him leading this team to a five and one start and all of them have been kind of close games that he had to find a way to win.

22:27Pat McAfee:At the beginning, you had no tackles. Right at the beginning of the season, had no tackles. Now they got no wide receivers. Oh, they do. And Tez hitting that high-ass. And the geez-luise moment of the weekend was him going, man, I only did one. This is Tez Johnson after the game about what was being chanted about.

22:44Adam Schefter:I'm going to tell you a funny story. This is great. When I score and I hear MVP chant, I'm thinking they're talking about me. So I asked Shep. I'm like, Shep, they was chanting MVP? He was like, yeah. I was like, I ain't doing that. and he was like, they talking about Baker, Tess. I was like, well, that explains it. But he is MVP. The one he got the first down on.

23:06Pat McAfee:Well, that explains it. He is the MVP, though, man. That is incredible stuff. I love their team. I love the culture they have. Well, and even just like the throws are unbelievable. All this stuff is so good, and he's at the point now, just like the other guys, where like, hey, it doesn't matter who's out there. The third and 14 run is just like pure will to win. Yeah, like not every it doesn't matter what quarterback you are like. I don't know who else is making this play. You can say Josh Allen and Mahomes and stuff. I mean, this is ridiculous. Just wanting to win, wanting the first down just more.

23:41I mean, it's a one point game right now. And I don't know what down after it came. It was either the next play or a couple of plays after. That's what led to the Tez Johnson touchdown. It's just that's just a solo effort. Unbelievable. He really should win the MVP. I hope everybody just stays healthy on this list just because they are all playing great football.

24:00Pat McAfee:On that note, Baker, talking his shit immediately afterwards, understands the moment. Been around. I think he's got his best case. Yeah, body language is insane for the rest of the team. Let's talk about another guy who's in the MVP conversation. Drake May. Yeah. Listen, Drake May is everything that I think Connor had hoped he would be. Connor talked about his greatness last year. They'd be getting their asses beat, and he'd say, hey, we got a guy, though. This quarterback's making four, five plays a game that make you say he understands what he's doing. They were talking about his footwork coming out of college.

24:30Pat McAfee:He's going to be inaccurate. He learned. He figured it out. He's not going to have to face – he's not going to be able to dissect the defenses. He's learned. He's figured it out. Is he going to be tough enough to take those hits? You know, he led North Carolina in rushing and passing one season. Is he going to be able to rush in the NFL? He might be able to take away one of his things. He can. He runs people over. And he's seemingly always jovial. This guy's leadership is like, here we go, boys. He feels like he is a here-we-go-boys type guy, which I didn't know was possible to win with. And then you team that up with Vrabel, and it's like this is like the perfect match made in heaven up there.

25:00Pat McAfee:You guys got to be absolutely jacked that you have, dare I say it, a more handsome, a more athletic. Is he taller? I mean, I don't know.

25:17Is he taller? The Mac Jones?

25:21Adam Schefter:Yeah, he is. You better not even dare put Rick Mays as Matt Jones.

25:27Pat McAfee:Just let him finish. Let him finish and let him go where he's going. Is this guy the 2025 younger generation, more mobile version of Tom fucking Brady? Is that what's going on in New England? He's handsome. Have you seen him? He's incredibly handsome. He's not handsome to Tom. Oh, no. Well, which Tom are we talking about? Exactly. We're talking about 24 years old right now. You'd have to go butt chin, Tom. Well, yeah. Well, that's the thing. If we were just going to go like, hey, no work done to your body, yeah, Drake May is obviously better. But the other thing about Drake May is like he's already an adult.

26:04You know, he's 23 years old, but he's already married. The king and queen of New England people are calling the new Mays. And it is unbelievable. Everything he does is great. And like we can talk about him forever. I legitimately could talk about him forever. but something AQ kind of pointed out last week to me, Josh McDaniels coming back has been a huge reason for his success. Just the way the offense goes, it's very smooth. D-Bud said to me before the show, like, Drake May has entered the conversation where when he's throwing the ball and the ball leaves the screen and they've got to track it, it doesn't matter.

26:35You know it's going to be some sort of good ball, some sort of, you know, right read. Everything he does is perfect. I really don't know how it can get better than this. Winning the Super Bowl, of course, but this is the happiest and most excited I've been about a football team with a football team since Tom Brady beating the Rams in the Super Bowl.

26:58Pat McAfee:Obviously, Vrabel back, too. He's awesome. His dramatics on the sideline, I forgot about how spectacular they are. I guess these refs weren't necessarily on your guys' side down there. I don't think it's necessary for the first 15 because this needs to be its own 15, just about the referees, and it's not really just about this game. It's about the idea that if this referee crew was on a Colts-Bills, hey, huge game deciding who the one seed is, this was a pass interference call. And you're going to say against Stephon Diggs on the second 60-yard touchdown to Pop Douglas. And you're going to say, oh, well, where's the flag?

27:32This is what it was. And I actually made D-Butt look at it because D-Butt actually knows football and I'm just a Patriots fan. But D-Bud said, I don't get it. This is the worst call I've ever seen. If you actually watch the all 22, you can't see when the flag is thrown. And both teams had their special teams units on the field. That's not the play. Both teams had their special teams units on the field for the extra point because they already celebrated. The defense already walked off. The offense already walked off. And then they called the passenger fear. And so I don't know who the crew is. I'm glad that the Patriots won just because I didn't have to come on here today and say, hey, Roger Goodell, there are seven terrorists that work for the NFL, and they're wearing black and white stripes, and they refereed the game in New Orleans yesterday.

28:18This is the play. And for some reason, again, you're not going to see a flag. It's not going to pop up on the broadcast. It's not going to show on the bottom. Touchdown, celebration, incredible play. Look at Drake May, too, in the pocket. Oh, yeah, he has bad feet. That matters. Strike! And then a touchdown. but instead he gets called back for a pass interference. So, again, this is more so.

28:40Pat McAfee:Pass interference is 10 yards on the field on the sideline that we just showed with Stephon Diggs just because it's getting him worked up here. Unbelievable. Stephon Diggs was 30, 40 yards away from the play. I mean, he is nowhere near the play. And even if he was right on top of the play, people would argue that this right here, you're going to call offensive pass interference right there. I don't know if that's a thing. And then the timing of it happening late, you have to think to yourself, wait, are they working against the Patriots? And then this empowers the Patriots even more, by the way.

29:04Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Frable's on the sideline trying to talk to this ref. Nobody's listening. There's a shot of Frable's head just going back, mind blown by the officials. And then for them to get a win there, all the mass holes just, oh, they're against us again. Oh, they're against us again. They're trying to hold it. They don't want to see it again. That's what the New England Patriots fans feel like. Now, we can't talk about Drake May the entire time, even though we should think about it. Sam Darnold, also former Minnesota Vikings quarterback. And obviously everybody remembers his time in New York not going great.

29:32Pat McAfee:Well, with the Seattle Seahawks, this dude has become a guy for their entire organization. Remember, they're moving on. Jackson Smith and Jigba has like a bunch of records right now. He is absolutely crushing it. Him and Sam Darnold have crushed since the beginning. And Jigba, by the way, is a Sierra Leone name. I believe his grandfather came to the United States of America. It's a story that we read online is accurate. And the American that took him in, basically, his last name was Smith. So his name is Jackson Smith Njigba. Njigba is his grandfather's name from Sierra Leone. And Smith is the, I forget the name.

30:09Pat McAfee:Do you remember the name? Sponsor. Sponsor or whatever it was coming in there. That's because we looked it up. Because it's like such a cool name. Jackson Smith Njigba is a cool name. The story also awesome. His family story is incredible. And what he's doing with Darnold, outrageous. They just let him out of the building over there in Minnesota. I wonder if they thought it was just going to be a one-hit wonder. Sam Darnold's all the way back, and McDonald loves him. Yeah, he's all the way back. He is third in the NFL in passing yards behind Stafford and Dak. He is fifth in touchdowns. He's got 11 touchdowns, the three interceptions.

30:40And these balls that you're seeing, like to JSN and Cooper Cup there, they are absolutely perfect. Like, there is nowhere else that you could throw these balls. He's on fire right now leading this offense with JSN, with Cooper Cup, with the tight end. Sam Darnold's playing really, really good football.

30:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, Sam Darnold's in the MVP conversation. You know who else is here in Indianapolis? Danny Dimes. Now, Danny Dimes can run, and he can obviously spin it. That's why the Dimes name is out there. They're calling him Indiana Jones because he saved our state. But I'll tell you, whenever he's playing, he saved the Colts franchise as well. We're a very boring franchise. We had the capability of winning games, but it was going to be a grinded-out type game. We have the ability now to win any style of game. You know, if it's going to be a dogfight, we can do it. If it's going to be a shootout, for some reason, if our defense can't get stops, if our corners are maybe not able to be in the right place, if our corners are going to get knocked out of the game before the game even starts.

31:31Pat McAfee:While doing a warm-up, a pretty huge shining for us doesn't even make it to game time because there's a miscommunication in warm-ups and he ends up getting a concussion before the game even starts. There's like a chance that maybe our defense isn't going to be able to get a stop. We were able to win. Now, this is a sad moment.

31:46Adam Schefter:It can't happen.

31:47Pat McAfee:Boom. Bang. Ogletree, shoulder. Mooney's head. Concussion. 11.50 a.m. Obviously, game kickoff at 1. D-Bone and my mom were already at the game in the suite that we have. They sent a text to just people gathered around somebody, had no idea if somebody maybe fell, heard it was a concussion, wondered if maybe some of the football was punted and hit him in the head because in those pre-pre-workout, there is like kind of a rules of engagement on how it all goes, which I think is what a lot of people are questioning with Shavarius Ward and Ogletree's situation. There is kind of like an unwritten rule on how the pre-pre-pre-warmup kind of works.

32:23Adam Schefter:Yeah, you usually probably the first one out there, first or second one out there with you and the kickers. But for us, you know, we go out there depending on home or away. Like, where do you warm up? Who do you warm up with? But you got to be aware of where kind of other people are on the field. You see, you know, you got the fourth down army, snap, holder, and kicker. But as far as the coaches even throwing these – it was Ogletree and Ward. So the coaches – you see the coaches were yard line. Like on the 30-20. Yeah, so both on the 30-yard line basically going in. And they're throwing the ball.

32:53Adam Schefter:So I think them and the actual players want to have got to be on the same pace to make sure you're not going out while I'm going in. You can't have something like this happen to any player, let alone your big-time offseason$20 million a year cornerback.

33:05Pat McAfee:And on that note, I'm surprised more injuries don't happen in these situations. Just after seeing it, I was like, man, I don't know why I didn't ever think that this could possibly happen. I mean, I almost sniped Tim Tebow from like 75 yards away. That would have been a –

33:19Adam Schefter:Those are the toughest ones. The punts? Yeah, when you got punts coming from the other spot. Yeah, kicks. But when you're throwing the ball, like we all remember the pregame with, was it Tucker or Bucker? Oh, Travis. Yeah, and Travis. So, like, you're kind of aware of who's warming up where, so you got to be aware, obviously, where your ball is. You have more control of the ball that's being thrown than the ball that's being kicked. But that shit can't happen. In the Anthony Richardson thing alone, like, I'm like, what the – before some details came out, you're like, what the hell is going on with the Colts pregame warm-up?

33:50Adam Schefter:but with all that being said

33:51Pat McAfee:I think the Anthony Richardson I think he was using a band and then something I think the band pulled something like from what I because band you immediately think I had a friend whenever I was growing up playing soccer I was a teenager he was getting band work in thing snapped came back hit him and like ripped his hamstring oh yeah the metal thing like came and hit him he like had to get surgery he was a very good player too like I don't know I was like 14 years old I think it was the very beginning of like band like treatments I think I had no idea the teenagers were using them. And he's like, yeah, he's out or whatever.

34:22Pat McAfee:What happened? Like band snapped, snapped over his hamstring. It's like, oh my God, that's scary as hell. I'm a big band user guy, but there is always a fear that the band's going to snap and you're going to get one. So I thought that was immediately what it is. I guess that wasn't the case. I guess there's potentially something, I don't know. Orbital Bone, I mean, he was in the hospital. Yeah, not good. I mean, that's not good. Chavarious Ward, and then Marvin Harrison Jr., his head smacked off the turf really hard. He got taken in. And then there was a special teamer, I don't know his name, I should know his name for the Arizona Cardinals.

34:51Pat McAfee:He got carted off with a neck. Like, he had a neck incident. They took the face mask off the helmet. They took the face mask off the helmet. He was kind of – he was strapped down to the cart. And they took him off. And it was like, damn, that looks very, very scary. I guess they released him from the hospital. He flew back with the team. But yesterday, there was a lot happening at that Indianapolis Colts game. And on that note, Colts were able to get a win. A lot going on, able to get a win. That Arizona Cardinals team, Jacoby was spinning it. Oh, yeah. Jacoby was spinning it, absolutely. but Danny Dimes gets it done.

35:20Pat McAfee:Also, Patrick Mahomes, he's come back into the scene and said, oh yeah, you forgot about me. You have. You have. You have forgot about me. The Kansas City Chiefs offense has obviously looked much better over the past few weeks than it had for maybe a year and a half or so. And I think if you listen to the Kansas City Chiefs people where people talk about what the Kansas City Chiefs are saying, they feel better about their team now at this point of the season than they did last year. And last year they got to the Super Bowl. They got Rasheed Rice coming back. Okay, so they still got the little trick-em, you know, slick-em type operation.

35:46Pat McAfee:Patrick Mahomes is doing Patrick Mahomes stuff, but they got another weapon coming back who's very fast and very tough to get. So if you think about what Worthy's been able to do, and Travis Kelsey seemingly back to being Travis Kelsey, Pacheco running his thing, Juju Schuster, he's in the middle of some stuff, I guess, after the game. Obviously, with Brian Branch, that was a wild scene. I don't think any of us could have expected that. But if you think about where this Chiefs team is headed, it's like Patrick Mahomes MVP conversations are about four or five weeks away from being full throated, brother.

36:15Pat McAfee:I mean, that is going to be coming around the corner. Yeah, they're coming. and they're coming big time because a lot of the talk, at least on the internet around Mahomes, is this guy's a baby. All he does is bait people and then pout to the refs. Mahomes is getting blasted week in and week out under his own volition. He's running and seeking out contact. So if you were thinking that Mahomes maybe thought everything was too sweet, no, I think they kind of reminded everybody last night, hey, we're not dead. We can hit that next gear when we need to. And, yeah, I mean, once they actually get fully healthy here, look out for the Chiefs and Mahomes too because he's heard everything everyone's saying.

36:52And this is not a good thing, but he also leads the team in rushing as well.

36:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, and the rushing goes back to Ty's point. He took, like, three shots to the back on one play last night, right at the first down marker, and he just, like, kept going and then gets right up. Takes a big-time shot, gets up. I think Hutch hit him late. Yeah. Hutch hit him late. He got right back up. It's like Patrick Mahomes has a lot of dog in him. I think he's reminding everybody, yeah, shit is sweet. I own a soccer team. I own a baseball team. My resume's already a go conversation. I'm a dog, though, who still drinks Coors Lights, and it feels like they're getting better and better. The Lions, are you guys completely out on yourselves after losing that game?

37:28Pat McAfee:No, everything's A-OK. That was more about the Chiefs than the Lions. We'll bounce back next week. Well, what about Brian Branch afterwards? That doesn't feel like an MCT. No, and that's really funny to bring that up because everyone's calling Brian Branch selfish, but I really think what he was doing was a favor to everyone that's ever wanted to smack Juju in the mouth. Okay. We should be spanking Brian Branson. That is not how this works. What's so funny, D-Buck? What's so funny, D-Buck?

37:51Adam Schefter:I didn't expect that. It was good. Fucks me, D-Buck. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Brian.

37:55Pat McAfee:Love you, Brian. Now, on that note, MCDC came out and said, this ain't us, man. This will be. This is, we don't cheap shot people. Juju going, yeah, what up? Screaming at sideline. Oh, what up, Branch? How you doing, man? I just got a pretty good block on you about three minutes ago. You saw it. Bang. Boom. So Branch came out and said there was a memory. where he's blindsided and there was a block. Whatever the case, this is not good for ball, especially with two of our best teams. That can't happen right there. All of this can't happen. What's that, getting tossed on your back?

38:22Adam Schefter:Yeah, I mean, Brian Branch, obviously that can't happen. He pulled his ears too when he was on the ground. That's Bush League, but if you're a juju and you decide he was kind of in the moment there, do I lay here on the ground? I don't know, I got to get up. Game's over, I'm not getting a flag. So he came and attacked him, but you already have a teammate on him. You then can't get manhandled by Brian Branch with one arm when you come in. So that's a bad look for Juju. He was bleeding. It was rough for him. So it wasn't good. And you don't want this is a black eye for NFL, for the NFL in general.

38:50Adam Schefter:So Dan Campbell, I'm sure he addressed it with Brian Branch before he went and spoke to the media as well. But, yeah, I'll be interested to see how they handle this with Brian Branch because he is kind of in that Draymond Green kind of category when it comes to being fine, having different things going between and after the whistle. So I hope they don't suspend him. But we'll see. at least a hefty fine, maybe even a suspension.

39:12Pat McAfee:I agree. There's probably going to be a lot because the NFL cannot have this happen. I mean, fights after games used to happen back in the play. Look at the camera. Camera people. Camera people. Incredible work getting out of there. Honestly, that's an ACL to a camera person. I mean, there's big bodies going in there. Patrick Mahomes ends up in the bottom of this pile, which once again goes back to us loving Patrick Mahomes. He's willing to jump in the bottom of this pile. Don't love that this fight is happening. Ref's already gone. Game's over. We're out of here. This game's over. we're reffing for 60 minutes you guys handle your shit security gets in there coaches get in there it was full mayhem these are two of our best teams obviously it's very emotional it's a physical sport it's a tough sport and then the fireworks go off and say hey we get a big time win number two storyline is the chiefs is still the chiefs yeah and the number one storyline is the colts are gonna win the super bowl okay so that is all you need boom bang and jonathan taylor this guy Wow.

40:03Pat McAfee:Yeah. I know we got him in the first round. He might be worth a couple now. He might be worth a couple now.

40:08Adam Schefter:He ain't going nowhere.

40:09Pat McAfee:He might be worth a couple of those right now. Franchise great. He's exceptional. Well, he is unbelievable. His celebration is sick. I got people mocking it from the other team. He's seemingly untackleable. The offensive lines are all over the place. Danny Dimes put him in the right positions. In our defense, yesterday couldn't get a damn stop. Okay? Once again, one of our guys got taken up before the game even started. Yeah. Okay? That's a big piece. literally find out an hour and 10 minutes before the game he's not able to play. Why? What happened? He said, well, he's okay. Well, he actually just got hit by an elbow.

40:40Pat McAfee:Ate an elbow. What do you mean? Can't cause. Yeah. It was bad. Where? It was on a – who? We were on like 35-yard line up there. Boom. It's over. So whenever that happens right before the game, obviously it's not easy. The Colts get a huge win. And obviously we need to go – going forward need that not happen. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might have more information on that and everything else that happened around the NFL. Senior. NFL insider for ESPN, Michigan Man. Ladies and gentlemen, tough one against USC, Adam Schefter. Yay, ready, ready. Hi, guys. Schefter, sorry we made you wait there.

41:09Pat McAfee:Had to get to the bottom of everything. The ward injury, I am a pre-warm-up person because I'm a punter. Punters and kickers are out there a lot. I'm surprised that more injuries don't happen legit after watching this, but it is kind of organized chaos usually. What is the update here? We assume he'll be back, or is this protocol going to do what the protocol is going to do? Well, he's in protocol now, And typically, when you miss one game, there's a real chance you miss another one. So that collision could cost him two games there. He went down, stayed down. I mean, that's scary when you see something like that happen.

41:43And to see him inactive before the game like that, I don't recall a team losing a player in pregame warm-ups, no less two players, to significant injuries. Obviously, Ward had the concussion there, and Anthony Richardson fractured his orbital bone, stretching with a band of some sort. So I don't know whether he was stretching his hamstring or his shoulder or his arm, whatever it was, snapped back and fractured his orbital bone. So he's going to miss time now too. So that's crazy pregame warm-ups. And I always think that those are signs of things to come. And of course, Colts had a tough time with the Cardinals, but they prevailed in the end and played well enough to win.

42:21Pat McAfee:Okay, yes, they did prevail. Yeah, okay. And maybe we do have the worst optics for a stadium whenever that roof and windows open for a 1 o 'clock game in October. But I want to let you know, whenever you're in there, it feels so cool. It feels so cool. There's a nice little breeze every once in a while that comes out of the sky. The football gods bless you a little bit. But I can see how on TV it would stink. And also, I assume the camera people do not love having to adjust this every single quarter as they go forward. But nonetheless, it was rocking in Indianapolis. Let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

42:54Pat McAfee:Obviously, they were down all their wide receivers this week. that Baker Mayfield still makes a play. What are we hearing about them? Baker, potential MVP conversation. Is there any other injuries or storylines that we should hit that you just saw us miss in our first 15? Well, I think the few things, obviously, the Brian Branch, Juju Smith-Schuster incident from last night is under review. I would imagine we'll hear something at some point. If he's going to be suspended, if there's going to be any suspensions, we'll probably hear something today on that. obviously if we go back to Jalen Carter in the first game of the year, he spit on Dak on the first play basically and got ejected.

43:34So if this incident had occurred pre-game, would Brian Branch have been ejected from the game? And I think the answer is probably yes. So if he would have been ejected before the game, I think it stands to reason that the league is absolutely going to consider a suspension here, especially when you consider that sportsmanship was a point of emphasis for the NFL in the offseason, especially when it's a standalone Sunday night game. So the league is going over it. You can see the scene that occurs. There's an overhead view of it. Two guys going at it. It turns into a scrum, a skirmish. Everyone's gathered around.

44:17That's not what the league wants. At the very least, there are going to be significant fines. And I think there's a real possibility that it's going to involve a suspension.

44:26Pat McAfee:Full chaos, obviously, with a bunch of members of the media in the middle of it, which, worst case scenario for all parties there, obviously can't have it. Love that they're passionate. But I'm excited to see what the league office does here. You know, because this would normally be, as you know more than us, as you're getting a phone call right here. Is that a heads up on what the punishment is? Well, again, you asked about the Bucs. We're bouncing all over here. Buccaneers, Emeka Abuka is not going to be able to play this week. Chris Godwin is not going to be able to play this week. Buck Yerven is not going to be able to play this week.

44:57They're hoping that Mike Evans can come back and play this week. Monday night against the Detroit Lions, a great game. And you mentioned Baker Mayfield. Incredible. He bounces around the league the way he does. And one of the biggest stories of this season, and we talked about it last week, Pat, is all these quarterbacks who have been reclamation projects who have become saviors elsewhere. Baker Mayfield in Tampa is the man. Sam Darnold in Seattle is the man. Daniel Jones in Indianapolis is the man. Mack Jones has played exceedingly well for the 49ers going up against Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers yesterday.

45:31So these quarterbacks have essentially been taken off the scrap heap, places that they've not been able to succeed. They've gone on to great success elsewhere. And that, to me, is one of the biggest stories of the season. And Baker's the headliner there in play for the MVP. This run right here, going through people, lunging out, getting the first down. I'm sitting with Teddy Bruschi. We're watching the game. Teddy went nuts when he saw that play. He loved it. And then here's Tez Johnson, the unofficial MVP of the National Football League. He's in the middle, going out and catching that pass. As Baker said, if you're 142 pounds, you should be able to move that fast.

46:07But he's throwing it to Tez Johnson. He's throwing it to Cameron Johnson. Who knew that the Buccaneers wide receivers would be the Johnson & Johnson law firm, receivers that most people don't even know. and they're out there making plays for Baker Mayfield and the Bucs.

46:20Pat McAfee:I love that Tez was able to hit that whisper in the wind just so easily. You know, and Baker was asked about it. He said, if I was 140 pounds, I'd be able to do that too. Bet, bet. That looked like somebody that goes on America's Got Talent and has the capability to flip in full pads. And if the MVP chance come down for that flip every single time, I love what he's doing. The MVP flip from Tez. He was a dog at Oregon, ran a slow 40. Yes, he did. Okay, everybody talked about his 40 being slow, especially with us. Molly was us included because we're like, damn, we did not expect that. He's getting behind defenses still and moving.

46:54Pat McAfee:Okay, active week last week in the moving and grooving world. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shefty, it feels as though this is going to be a massive week as far as trades go. Who's buying and who's selling? We used to hear that in high school, but who actually is doing that when it comes to the players this week? I mean, Tampa needs a receiver. it sounds like, especially if those guys are going to be out. Obviously, there's some drama going around with a couple teams. Philly comes to mind. And then there are teams like the Ravens, who are kind of just underperforming, have some players that either might get paid or might not get paid.

47:27They just moved Odafe Owe last week, and he is a potential contract player. Who do you think is going to be the most active this week? And are there any big names kind of on boards right now, you think? Yeah, well, if we look at it, last week there were three trades. And last year leading up to the trade deadline, there were 18 trades in the month of October leading up to the deadline. The deadline is Tuesday, November 4th, three weeks from tomorrow. So, again, I don't know of any trade right now that's close. We'll have to check in. But I would think that there will be trades that are made this week because there were last week.

48:07You've got the Chargers looking for a running back. The Steelers looking for a receiver. The Eagles always looking for help. The Browns alternately are buyers and sellers. They're still trying to rebuild their roster, but I think they have some offensive linemen that might draw interest elsewhere. I think a team that everybody's watching is the Dolphins. They've got Bradley Chubb. They've got Jalen Phillips, and we'll see how that goes. What's up with that, Pat?

48:31Pat McAfee:Just the Browns buying and selling. I'll take five new cards, four new cards, three, whatever. What are you willing to give? I'm willing to. We're open for business. We are open for business here. Just describing different states of teams is what you just did right there. Hey, this team's going to be buying. This team's going to be looking. This team's going to be looking. Those are teams that are thinking about a future. And what do you talk about teams that are selling? It's like, okay, they're thinking about leaving. Browns are like, hey, listen, whatever you got. Let's make a deal. You want to move?

48:59Pat McAfee:You want to groove? We got Sean Watson coming back in a few weeks. Yeah. What are they going to do over there? Is there any word on that front? Yeah. He's a good month away from being cleared for any football activity. He is on the list. There hasn't been conversation about when or if he'll play again. But I know there were some people last week when they saw Joe Flacco being traded in a move that Mike Tomlin did not approve of, apparently, today, according to his press conference. What did he say? He said that, and you want the exact quote. Hold on, we're going to pull it up right now. When did this happen?

49:34Pat McAfee:Just now? It happened about a half hour ago, roughly. Roughly. He said something to you. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't make sense to trade a quarterback you think enough of to make your division, to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. But that's just my personal feeling. Here is the video. We actually just found it. Good job, Bruce. You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

50:01Adam Schefter:Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us. because it doesn't make sense to me to train a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. But that's just my personal feelings.

50:17Pat McAfee:Okay, you nailed it, Shefty. And also, whoever typed that, we could hear you. Oh, my God. We need to get rid of it. And you're a journalist so you can talk to these people. They need to watch how they're breathing behind these mics. A lot of people record on cell phones or something.

50:34Pat McAfee:and natural snores. We can hear that. Then the typing, obviously not their fault. They're trying to keep up. WPM, we can hear that. We need a little bit more directed audio, but I love that Tomlin did that. I appreciate the fact. That's the first time I've heard him, hey, this team's general manager, direct Andrew Barry. It's got to be some super genius of some sort. I love that. How does that make you feel as a Steelers fan? Oh, it's awesome. because he doesn't normally come out and speak his mind. He does, but he does it in riddles that you have to decipher, which if you're a Steeler fan, you're good at it at this point.

51:06But that's something you don't normally see from Tomlin, coming out and kind of criticizing another team slash GM.

51:13Pat McAfee:And he thinks very highly of Flacco. We heard him earlier this year, especially with what he just did. Earlier this year, he told a story about how last year he told the defense to keep Anthony Richardson upright. We want Anthony Richardson to get out of this game because we do not want Joe Flacco playing in this thing. It is clear that Tomlin has massive respect for Joe Flacco. Andrew Barry, this guy, are we seeing the same thing? They've had a lot of battles. Why are we saying that? Now, talking about Cincinnati and Cleveland, there's a lot of situations brewing. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Shefty, just kind of want to get a temperature gauge on the hot seat of some of these coaches.

51:46No one in particular, Stefanski, McDaniel, Callahan, Aaron Glenn. Is anyone's seat hotter than the others or getting real hot? Week six, NFL season, starting to get there. It's firings are in the air. Not so much in the NFL, but they're starting, you know, the firing bug is starting to catch some guys. Oh, yeah. I don't see, it doesn't mean I'm right, but I don't see a coaching move being made anytime soon. Of course, there are going to be coaches who lose their jobs. It happens every year. And it's become sport within the sport of the National Football League to see it happen. But I don't think, and for all I know, we're going to hang up here and someone's going to get fired.

52:24But I don't see a head coach losing his job. I don't see, you know, Brian Callahan obviously has come under intense criticism. I don't see that happening soon. Mike McDaniels come under intense criticism. I don't see that happening soon. The Jets just hired Aaron Glenn. Nothing's happening there. Like, who else are we firing here? What other head coach do we want fired?

52:46Pat McAfee:Zach Taylor? Again, he said. We don't want it. We're just saying. These are names. I've seen Pete Carroll get tossed around as this guy was talking a lot of shit for a guy that's two and four. Yeah, you know what? Pete Carroll came in and took over a team that had a lot of holes and needed a lot of help. That's part of the problem. That's what Bill Belichick is going through in North Carolina. You take over a downtrodden, barren roster, it takes time to put it back together. And Pete Carroll is a coaching legend. Like he deserves the time to be able to do that. If he and they decide after a season that this isn't working out, well, that's something they would decide.

53:29But Pete Carroll is not losing his job in season.

53:32Pat McAfee:Good. I'm happy to hear that. We love Pete Carroll. And also to all these coaches, good luck figuring it out. You know, Aaron Glenn, I have faith in him too. I think that end-to-half situation was let's get to the locker room. I don't care about anything. And then whenever him talking about benching a player and him, I think he's trying to get his players back in that entire thing in Justin Fields. So that's why he felt obligated to come out and respond, I think. Is that probably how you're reading that as well, Shefty? Yeah, yeah. I think you think about these things. And honestly, in the moment, when somebody asks that question after the game that was just played, probably, like, it's emotional.

54:06Like, he's pissed off at that point in time. The best way to answer it, and of course it's easy to say in hindsight, is Justin Fields, our quarterback, today didn't work out, but we believe in this guy. We invested in this guy, and we're going to be back at it next week. But that's not how he feels in the moment. He's so angry that he's like, what kind of question is that, man? And I think you step back and you think about it and you reflect on it. And you change your tone when you have a little bit of time to process the question and the entire situation.

54:35Pat McAfee:Negative 10 net yards passing for Justin Fields yesterday. That includes the loss of yardage in sacks. They give up nine sacks to the Denver Broncos. Benito's leading the league in sacks at eight. had won yesterday. They're on track to have 85 sacks or something like that this season, which would obviously be an NFL record. That Broncos defense is tough. They are a problem. And Vance Joseph is a beast. He's going to be up for head coaching jobs again at some point. Okay, we've got to get to tonight's game because there's only two minutes left here because we made you wait so long in that hotel room.

55:10Pat McAfee:We're happy you're living the life of luxury, too. You deserve it, Schefter. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Schefter, quickly, what does the injury report look like for both games tonight? I want to compare the luxury of my hotel room to the luxury of Pat's hotel rooms for college game day. They're terrible for game day. Yeah, I don't have them. That's why you got to get the buzz, brother. You need to get the chef to the buzz. Sucked in a basement one time. Yeah, yeah. I was in one of those rooms a couple times, and I said, no more. Yeah, I'm going to get a buzz. Yeah, so some interesting injury situations tonight, obviously.

55:40Like the Buffalo Bills have a couple of what they call pregame decisions with Dalton Kincaid and Curtis Samuel at wide receiver. commanders say game time for Debo Samuel, who's got the heel injury. The Bears have some of those situations with Colston Loveland, their tight end, the rookie from Michigan. But the Bears are getting back TJ Edwards, their linebacker, and Kyler Gordon at cornerback. So they're having some reinforcements added on the back end. But some big question marks going into tonight's game, a little bit more than usual for a doubleheader of this stature and magnitude.

56:15Pat McAfee:All right, well, good luck with the coverage. We appreciate you joining us, and we can't wait to keep up with Adam Schefter with all the breaking news. You're the man. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Hey, is Michigan okay? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Why aren't they okay? Yeah, they had a tough weekend. Same. Sharon might be back at. Oh, no. Sharon. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. I love Sharon. That was tough, though. But, hey, only going to continue to grow up. Kid's 18 years old. Yeah. Yeah. SC's probably better than everyone thought they were Yes they are And they got a better defense than I said they had on TV Certainly proved it

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57:59Pat McAfee:football it's the greatest we're lucky we get a chance to chat about it and football season is certainly delivering i think baseball is happening as well let's go to the toxic table at boston connor and at ty schmidt congrats to your packers they are now one and one against joe flacco on the season after a big time win against the cincinnati bangles baseball is happening though over the weekend i heard big dump ski big dumper did some magical things with a guy wearing a shirt right over his shoulder that I don't think necessarily was anything that Kyle Rowley would know anything about. He hit a bomb last night.

58:30Pat McAfee:What's going on in baseball? He did, yeah. This was game one of the ALCS. Yeah, very inappropriate shirt behind Dumper. The guy actually pointed to it right before the pitch and then boom, Dumper goes yard. What is it? It was a butt plug. It was a butt plug. I thought it was a chest piece. It did look like maybe one of those lava lamps. It did. Yeah, it could be a lava lamp. We're not 100 % sure, I guess, what that is. A lot of people on the internet are saying things, but the thing that looks like a lava lamp there looks like other stuff as well, including Big Dumper Monocle. Right. Yeah, which Monocle.

59:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, yeah. Or Monocle. And Monocle as well. But nonetheless, Big Dumper did what Big Dumper do. Yeah, exactly. Big Dumper goes yard when they're in a 1-0 hole and kind of just silences the crowd a little bit in Toronto. You know, hey, we're here to stay. Massive shot by Dumper, and then Seattle kind of just, Jorge Polanco who has been an absolute dog in the playoffs. Single to bring in a run. And then he wasn't done either. He'd grab another C &I single later to take the lead to 3-1 and the Mariners win. 3-1. They take game one. They are leading the Blue Jays 1-0 in the ALCS. And then we have Dodgers and Brewers starting here very soon.

59:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, what happened to Cubs? I heard they lost. A lot of Cubs fans were all bummed out. I saw a lot of that. There was a lot of that. because on top of potentially their big guy who they traded for to bring in and thought maybe they were going to extend him, one of the best players in baseball, he basically said after the game, yeah, it was a fun season. We'll kind of see what the future holds. So they're probably going to lose Kyle Tucker. And then, boom, Andrew Vaughn, who's actually a white sock. So they kind of just a little extra rubbing in there. He goes yard. Brewers lead 2-1. And then Bryce Terang later also went yard.

1:00:14And Pete Crow Armstrong, he almost had this one. You remember a couple days ago he almost robbed one. Oh, never mind. I was about 60 feet over the fence as well. Basically, the Cubs ran. That was 60 feet over. Yeah, it was so far. If he would have been like 65 feet tall, he might have caught it. So, I guess maybe that's what he was thinking. But, unfortunately, the Cubs ran into the Miz. I like the effort. Yeah, effort was great. The Cubs ran into the Miz. The Miz came out and pitched early. Gave up a homer to say a Suzuki earlier, but then just cruised after that. And he got a big win. So the Brewers move on to face the Dodgers, two best teams in the NL.

1:00:48Pat McAfee:Okay, so we got Brewers, Dodgers, and then we got Mariners. Blue Jays. Okay, baseball's happening. Yep. Shout out baseball. We appreciate it. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP tone. Public money, not good money at this point. What was the stat you reiterated in the first hour? Yeah, so this weekend teams that were getting 60 % or more of the public bet against the spread were 2-5 this weekend on the season. They are now, let me get it right, okay, 15-35. Okay, that's NFL football we're talking about there. That is NFL Sunday. If you're seeing a lot of people thinking the same thing, there's a reason.

1:01:22Pat McAfee:There is. And it's sports books. And we don't know what AI they're using. No, we don't. We don't know if they're chat GP turning. We don't know if they got Grock rolling rocks. We don't know if they got Google's thing, whatever. Maybe they have their own AI that we don't know. It's been pretty good. Yeah. And it loves when everybody's going one way. Yep. It is love that. To be clear, I feel the same way on game day. You know, whenever I see the graphic and I see a lot going the other way, I feel real good strictly because this has been the sportsbook's way. This has kind of been the way football has been this year, which is why it has been electrifying.

1:01:53Pat McAfee:Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Good to see you. Huge weekend for Indiana football.

1:01:58Adam Schefter:Yes, it was huge. Ranked highest ever, right?

1:02:01Pat McAfee:Number three in the AP poll that came out today, the Indiana Hoosiers, led by Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza, Surratt Cooper Jr., Fisher on the defensive side. He was literally everywhere. You name it. This team is filled with dogs, and Signetti is certainly one that is leading them all. It is a cool day to be an Indiana sports fan, especially if you know Colts are 5-1, which is the best record in ball. The Bills can become the third team tonight that are 5-1 alongside the Colts and the Bucs. Steelers are 4-1. They've already had their bye week. They've got a long way. But the Colts legitimately, stats and record-wise, top team in the NFL.

1:02:38Pat McAfee:And then Indiana just went into Oregon, had the biggest win of the season, biggest upset of the season. and their story is now going to be one that's going to try to be emulated throughout all of NIL and Transfer Portal football. Now, Kurt Cignetti's name is immediately mentioned.

1:02:54Adam Schefter:Every year.

1:02:55Pat McAfee:Whenever another job is available. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, and a former president of Ohio, A.J. Hawk. Hawker, good to see you. You did a great job picking the NFL spread, and obviously college. You got every game right, dude. Congratulations. Proud of you. Thank you. Maybe Hawker. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Way to do that, Hawker. But Indiana goes into Oregon and gets a huge win. And obviously, I think there's a lot of tradition, especially around the Big Ten. Indiana's on a football team, right?

1:03:22Pat McAfee:Isn't that kind of the thought, A.J. Hawk? They are definitely known as a basketball school, for sure. But I think we're changing that pretty quickly. I think so, too, especially in massive moments on primetime. You know, last year against Ohio State, I mentioned it. And then, obviously, against Notre Dame, the two biggest moments when everybody was like, let's see. A lot of let's see people on Indiana last year. And they lost those games. And I said they shit the bed on game day because that's real. Against Ohio State, it was like a return that was bobbled, some other stuff that was bobbled. It was like they were very much in that game with Ohio State who would go on to become the national champions.

1:03:53Pat McAfee:But this Indiana team this year, they got a little bit more chemistry. They got a little bit more depth. They got a little bit more maturity. And they got a quarterback that is unbelievable. So whenever I watched Oregon-Penn State play, and we're going to get to that here in a matter of moments, I watched Penn State's offense not be good at all. I watched Penn State's offense with my own eyes not be good. They weren't good on the field, and it wasn't good on the sideline. Even when they're playing catch on the sideline, nothing was really good, I thought. Now, granted, I don't know how many of those I see, so I'm judging college football, NFL football.

1:04:25Pat McAfee:It's like, how often do I see all this? And in my eyes, it's like, this isn't going as good. They get to double overtime with Oregon, that Penn State team, with limited offense. Drew Aller had one drive where it was offense, and they get to overtime. Indiana's offense, real deal. So I thought if Indiana could protect Mendoza, he'll be able to douche them. And they did. And they showcased that early. And I just think Indiana's a very, very good team. Now, on that note, whenever you win, everybody starts looking at your roster, especially in the modern world, especially when you're trying to build a football juggernaut.

1:04:57Pat McAfee:It's not just the players. It's the coaches, too. Sig's name is already being thrown up for another job in the Big Ten. That's right. They're the highest-ranked team. in the Big Ten behind Ohio State. And his name's up for, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is college football analyst, expert, pundit, legend from the Big Ten, who's also Pittsburgh Steelers fan, ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dinnich. Heather, how are you doing? Who, who, who, who? Hooters. Okay, let's talk about that. Obviously, it's an incredible year. Certainly would like to hear your thoughts on this Indiana Hoosier culture being able to be turned as quickly as it was under Signetti, who literally came in and said, Google me, I win.

1:05:35Pat McAfee:and that's exactly what he's done the entire time. Kirk Herbstreit gave a stat in the opening of game day. Indiana's 1-71 in these types of games. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Indiana just started their football program last year. This is a brand-new football program. It's a wonderful time, obviously, in Bloomington for the football fans. Basketball is going to be great as well. Going into Oregon and getting a huge win is great. But now Cignetti's name is up for the Penn State job. It's going to be up for every single job. and nobody has talked to Signetti's family and we haven't got any quotes.

1:06:06Pat McAfee:I assume he's very happy at Indiana. I think he has said that a lot of times, very thankful for the opportunity. But this is what comes with success, especially when a job like Penn State opens up, Heather. So let's talk about that. Penn State's job, if he didn't win a national championship, was he going to be gone this year, you think, James Franklin? And on that note, this has got to be what? One of the highest touted job openings there is in all of college ball, Heather. This is a fantastic job with tremendous resources and the ability to win. And to answer your first question, look, these conversations didn't get serious until after the loss to Northwestern because they lose to UCLA, right?

1:06:46And there's a sense of they're stunned, disappointed, right? Not rock bottom yet, though. Okay, we can beat Northwestern, get back on track here and have a fighter's chance against Ohio State, get this thing back. But then you lose to Northwestern and the atmosphere became so toxic, right? With the fans, with everything, it became so volatile. But here's the thing, Pat. This, to your point about this being a good job, the resources here are tremendous. Financially speaking, Penn State is on par with Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon. This was a business decision as hard as it was to make, but they have the money to hire anyone they want.

1:07:32And we talk about Sig saying, yeah, I'm happy at Indiana. Matt Rule might say, yeah, I'm happy at Nebraska. Remember Lincoln Riley? Yeah, I'm not going to LSU. I'm going to go to USC instead, right? So you just don't know, and money makes all the difference.

1:07:45Pat McAfee:College football does seemingly have the most lies coming out of coaches' mouths at press conferences because they are forced to speak and there's a lot of things happening behind closed doors. And the coaches can always say, well, I actually don't hear anything because Jimmy Sexton's actually doing all the talking. And he doesn't tell me until later. And this decision's already been made. So I don't even know what to tell you. I apologize. Let's keep it moving. It's kind of just part of the business now at this point is that coaches leave and go to other jobs that are seemingly better jobs. You just rattled off a bunch of jobs that this is on par with.

1:08:15Pat McAfee:That's a Big Ten powerhouse that can do whatever it wants, A.J. Hawk. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. How's Ohio State feel about this? And what is your question for Heather, A.J.? Yeah, I mean, I think Ohio State people are okay with it. They understand. Penn State's coming to town November 1st. That's all they care about is beating them, whoever the interim. We understand the interim coach will be there. Terry Smith. Yeah, Coach Smith. Terry Smith's going to get the boys playing. I get it. I get it. He coached the Gateway Gators high school football team to almost a complete blowout of the Plum Mustangs where one of their guys actually touched the ball seven times, had six touchdowns.

1:08:49Pat McAfee:So Terry Smith understands the X's and O's. He can scheme it up. This guy's been coaching a long time. Western Pennsylvania legend Terry Smith is going to be up there as interim head coach. They still got everybody, but I guess there's been a lot of decommitments. I think Justin King was tackled twice that game, once by you and once by Joe Hadley. Okay. I don't know if Joe got him, but I hope so. I would pull for Joe Hadley in that note. Anyways, Terry Smith's a dog. Just know November 1st, the Lions are coming in. To you, AJ. But I think obviously the future is what we're all looking ahead to.

1:09:17Pat McAfee:Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, with that being said, Heather, you mentioned obviously Coach Signetti, Matt Rule. They always say like, hey, don't fire somebody unless you have a couple ideas who you may bring in. Do you know like the small handful of people that they may be looking at? Or is this going to be a big wide net? Is it going to take a long time? Like what's the time frame look like in getting a new coach in there? Well, they're not rushing this decision because what they don't want to do is zero in on a coach right now who might have a downward spiral in the second half of the season, right? So let it play out, see how it goes.

1:09:46And their AD, Pat Kraft, said today publicly that they will absolutely give interim head coach Terry Smith a chance at this thing. And Pat Kraft said, I will do everything I can to help Terry Smith run the table and win the rest of the season. But don't count out a name like Texas A &M coach Mike Elko as well. He's done a fantastic job. I would not rule out anyone at this point. Wide net, no rush to make it, all the money in the world to do it.

1:10:15Pat McAfee:Kirby Smart might be heading up there to Penn State. You never know. Is that what you're saying? Are you saying like that when you're saying you wouldn't rule out anybody? There's obviously few select people that are at places, and we just understand that they're pillars. You're talking about any name that is, in reality, is an option for Penn State at this point. Absolutely. I mean, look down the stretch. Is Kalen DeBoer happy at Alabama at the end of the season? I mean, Dan Lanning's probably pretty set at Oregon. How happy is Brian Day? I don't know the answer to all these questions. Would they leave?

1:10:45Would they leave, right? That's part of the question.

1:10:48Pat McAfee:Okay, let's pivot away from the Penn State situation. James Franklin, we appreciate the hospitality. Hell of a run up there in Penn State, dude. Hey, boy, James. Not easy to go in when he went in there. And obviously the expectations are what they are at Penn State. It's just like it is at Ohio State, even though Ohio State's been there. It's just like it is at other places, Alabama, where they've actually been there. Penn State's never been, really, to the mountaintop in recent history. And their fans and boosters are like, we've done everything we possibly can to get you there. We'd like to see it happen.

1:11:14Pat McAfee:They move on. It's loud. And he's been there a long time. I think there was like 70 employees in that building that obviously he was running. I mean, that's a big business. You have to, like, kind of swing in a different way. Now let's talk about some other college football news happening in front of us, especially here in Indiana, the state of football at the moment. Go ahead, D-Buch.

1:11:30Adam Schefter:Yeah, we'll stay here and go over to South Bend. You know, the Fighting Irish had two losses to two top four teams. Now how much better do those losses look now, and what's the pathway for the Fighting Irish to get in the playoffs? Look, Notre Dame right now has the best chance of any team in the country to run the table according to ESPN Analytics. And if they do run the table and finish 10-2, they've got a 50 % chance to make the playoff, according to the All-State Playoff Predictor. And I think those numbers line up with what the selection committee would think. Because, listen, there's going to be a lot of really good 10-2 teams.

1:12:08What helps Notre Dame right now is, well, first of all, they have to beat USC. But the fact that USC is ranked, and also Navy, the undefeated midshipmen are hanging around out there, That could also be a ranked CFP top 25 opponent.

1:12:21Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's talk about CFP and seeds and everything like that. It obviously gets very, very heated at the end of the season. You already heard Coach Saban putting some seeds down on Friday in the show. He was putting some seeds down. And if you look at the SEC schedule going forward, a lot of numbers next to teams that have to play against teams with numbers next to teams. So it's a lot of big-time matchups coming down the stretch in the SEC. Big Ten, a lot of these teams, Notre Dame as well, you kind of got the meat of the schedule almost out of the way. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Heather, where we stand right now, and we heard before the year that, you know, Tony Petiti and Greg Sankey were kind of saying like, hey, with this playoff, like the SEC and the Big Ten should each get four teams in, period.

1:13:00But where we stand right now, do you think, is the Big Ten a three-bid conference, given what's happening to Penn State and kind of just everyone else? You know, there isn't really anyone standing out outside of those top three teams. Is it possible the SEC is going to get like, you know, six teams in the playoff maybe? How do you think this is going to shake out?

1:13:19Pat McAfee:SEC, SBN, Todd. I'm a Big Ten guy. I don't want it to be true, but man, Penn State, you really fucked us here. Yeah, but Indiana King. True, and I'll tell you what, that Iowa loss to Indiana looks a whole lot better right now. They might run the table. They look good. They look good on Saturday. Okay, I'm sorry. To answer your question, every single Saturday night after these games are over, I put out a projection And for each of the past couple of weeks, half of my top 12 at least has been SEC teams, right? I'm borderline on Tennessee. They would be on the bubble. They're at number 12 right now.

1:13:57Would get knocked out if the playoff were today for that fifth group of five champion. However, like who needs automatic qualifiers when you've got six SEC teams already in? And that was what Shane Beamer, South Carolina's coach, told me this summer When I asked him, what changed your guys' minds when you saw models from SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey? And he said, why would we limit ourselves when, if you look over the past stretch of the college football playoff, we could get more than four teams in? And I think that is a very realistic scenario this year.

1:14:31Pat McAfee:They're going to love it. It's going to be loud. It's going to be loud. I think home field advantage matters a lot in this thing. Because obviously playing in the south is a difficult task. Playing up there in the north, we saw also a difficult task for Tennessee heading up there. And the fact that Indiana got Notre Dame, if that would have been another warm weather climate, had to go up there to Notre Dame. What was it, like eight degrees? It was so cold. So freezing. That's a game changer. I think this college football playoff is going to be special. Even if there are blowouts each week, we're seeing massive names take each other on that we very rarely get to see.

1:15:03Pat McAfee:That's been happening all season. Now, old school rivalry happened this past weekend. and had a much different outcome, I think, than most people would project it, especially with how Arch had been playing. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, this is kind of a two-parter. First, did Dr. Shin kind of screw over John Mateer in Oklahoma? Did he do the surgery and say, hey, you're going to be just fine. You're going to go throw for 300 yards. Yeah, exactly. Is he from Midland? Does he think he's better than us because he's from Midland? But then the second part of the question, probably the more realistic one, Texas is still on the national championship odds.

1:15:37and I think everybody kind of just assumed they were dead. But there they are right there below Notre Dame, who you just said has a 50 % chance to make the playoffs if they run the table. Is Texas not dead yet? Is there still a feeling that Arch can figure this thing out and Sark can get these guys going in the right direction and they might be able to rattle off some big wins enough to get them back into the college football playoff? Texas is not dead yet, but you're also talking to somebody who did not drop Texas out of my own top 25 last week after the loss to Florida because I thought they had a good defense.

1:16:12Good call. To your first question about John Mateer, not about his doc. It's about the Texas defense, which got after him, forced him into some mistakes, and I think exposed some things in that Oklahoma offense other teams haven't been able to. But Texas has the 15th most difficult remaining schedule. And guys, you all watch football. You know this. If Arch is not on his rear end, he can make some throws. He was very good when he was not under duress. That offensive line had to make strides. It seemed to start to do that. Can they consistently put it together? Because the minute they lose that third game, this is a different conversation.

1:16:52Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's chat about Arch Manning. Maybe getting some protection. Maybe making some magic. Maybe Heismanning. D-Bot has a question for you.

1:17:00Adam Schefter:I know coming into the year, he was the betting favorite. He was the favorite for Pat. I had DJ Lagway having gone their way, either one of them. Material, Mendoza, kind of been a rotating. Matt, yeah, Mendoza. Who the hell is the Heisman favorite? Who is your Heisman pick? I hear you on ESPN Radio, so I'm hoping for one answer here. But who is your Heisman pick right now, Heather? Ruben Bain Jr. I am a Heisman voter, and I will vote for the best player in the country, offense or defense. And he is a disruptive force. It is not necessarily in his stats, but he gets his hand on the ball, forced fumble, interception.

1:17:39I mean, he can do it all. He draws other players to him, and he's playing on what could be the selection committee's number one team and one of the best defenses in the country.

1:17:49Pat McAfee:So you're going most best player as the most valuable MVP. Your argument, J.J. Watt has done this argument numerous times for the NFL's MVP, where there was potentially some years where a defensive player should have won it because they were by far the best player that would grace a football field. But then the whole argument goes, well, it's valuable is what the V stands for. And quarterback touches the ball every single play. So Bain is certainly awesome and an absolute monster. He doesn't touch the ball every single play. I appreciate the fact that you're saying, hey, listen, I'm going with best player.

1:18:22Pat McAfee:I'm a voter, and this is what I'm going with. I appreciate that type of transparency. I think we like that. How many voters are there? Too many. There's like 800 and some voters. Well, I mean, and especially when we heard about what the one voter that we heard that was college as well. Not Heisman, but. Well, we don't know, actually. Yeah, the AP voter. She might have a Heisman vote. Yeah, we have no idea. I mean, that is something. 928. What? 928 voters? What are we doing now? Are you one of them yet, Tom?

1:18:52Adam Schefter:No. What the hell?

1:18:53Pat McAfee:Am I the only one on set? I got to be the only one on game day set without one, right? Saving Pride doesn't have one. Saving Pride doesn't. We need to stay like that. I don't want to be 930. I'm okay. Well, that's an even number. At that point. Storyline coming out of the weekend for you is we fire James Franklin and everybody's on the hot seat going forward. Is that your storyline or what are you thinking about as we move forward? Are you talking to me? Yep. Well, as we move forward is what happens in Penn State. Can they pull it together? Look, they've got Iowa, Ohio State, Indiana. Can they finish a respectable...

1:19:30Murders. Pat, listen, I covered the worst season in school history at Penn State. I was a beat writer for the Center Daily Times when Joe Paterno was 3-9. Okay, this is not that yet. Can they change it? This is different because Penn State had a national championship team. Yeah, wow. That's the big difference here. can they get those guys to play to their level there's dudes all over the field yeah they all

1:20:02Pat McAfee:looked the part when i was up there everybody they all act the part and they have 112 000 people in there through a renovation right now i think they're going to get it right they got fantasy football happening over there right now yeah well coach you won't well players because transfer portal you'll be able to do what you want to do is that ever going to work to win a national championship we shall see heather we appreciate the hell out of you thanks man ladies and gentlemen Hey, how about the Steelers? 4-1. Let's go. Yes. You're excited? You think they got a chance to win a Super Bowl? You think it was a Super Bowl winner?

1:20:31Don't jinx it.

1:20:32Pat McAfee:Okay, all right, all right. Heather Dinnich, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. So she's just enjoying the moment. Yeah. Don't want to piss off football guys. For instance, there's a lot of football left, AJ. There's a lot of football left. That Pittsburgh Steelers team, 4-1, certainly looked the part. Aaron Rodgers dropping a couple in a bucket. Obviously had some misses. The field was absolutely horrendous. When's Pittsburgh going to become and start taking football serious? That's a good question. When's Pittsburgh going to start taking football serious in that stadium? I don't know. I caused quite a shitstorm on the internet saying Pitt needs to get out of that stadium.

1:21:02Yes, I understand that the Steelers do not own the stadium, and Pitt and Steelers both pay to use that stadium. But I think Pitt should pay the Steelers to even be allowed to play football in that stadium.

1:21:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, if you're going to share a football field. Or even in the city. Like, pick and go play in Johnstown or all that for I care. You have your field turf. You have your field turf. Steelers need to play in their own stadium with their own beautiful grass and get that shit school out of there. Yeah, but what about like there is modern technology with the turf that can make this a lot. There is super grass. They tried. They tried super grass. It was actually worse. No, but what if they did more turf-y super grass? They tried. It was a hybrid. It did not go well. What about the quarterback? What if it was more turf, though?

1:21:38Pat McAfee:What if it was 80 % turf, 20 % super grass? Like super duper. The NBA would get pissed.

1:21:43Adam Schefter:They can't have that in Pittsburgh. I mean, Narduz and the boys just beat Florida State. What's that? Our dudes and the boys just won a big game. Oh, yeah, the football team, I've got no problem with the football team. It's their shit fans, okay? Go to a game if you actually care about the team. There's a good chunk of space downtown they could just pave and turn into a parking lot, and they could put a stadium right there.

1:22:01Pat McAfee:For the Pitt Panthers? Yeah, it's a Duquesne. That's what I'm saying. And then they could come use Accresure. They could come use Accresure for their bigger games. Yeah. Because there's like two games a year where their fans show up at the games, from my understanding. West Virginia, whenever it's – West Virginia shows up and it also still has a thing. And if the team is good, there'll be a primetime game against Clemson or something. They'll fill in there. But there's not a lot of people filling that stadium up. I think that's very, very known. That's not just West Virginia guys talking about this.

1:22:28Absolutely.

1:22:28Pat McAfee:There's a lot of people dressed like seats whenever you watch a Pitt Panther football team. And they do have Pitt Panther football fans, though. And they are a nuisance. They need their own stadium. They just don't go to games. They want to be competitive. Put the stadium on campus. Can't have Chris Boswell. This guy's one of the greatest in the history. Yeah. There's a top five of career percentage field goals. Chris Boswell's on there, obviously. Eddie Pinheiro also on there from the San Francisco 49ers, which I did not expect. Justin Tucker on there. Harrison Bucker on there. And number one, I guess, is Cameron Dicker, I think.

1:22:57Pat McAfee:Is that who? Cameron Dicker, who's hit a game winner, another one against the Miami Dolphins this past weekend. We got a lot of great football happening, AJ. And I don't know if you know this. You saw the board pretty good, brother. Did you know that? No, I honestly felt like I saw it pretty poorly when I was going through it in my brain. Yeah, well, obviously, we got two games to pick this evening, so we can certainly swing this a little bit, and I can come back and tie you, but you're currently 7-6 with a 9-6 possibility around the bend. So let's go, AJ. This is multiple weeks in a row where you've got it figured out.

1:23:24Yeah, I'm glad I got two games tonight to try to pad my stats a little bit. But, yeah, there are some tough ones out there. I feel like I should have picked this a little bit better. Jacksonville one killed me. I didn't like that pick.

1:23:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, Jacksonville kind of surprised me, but I think that Seattle team is really good. I think that's what we're learning. They're able to handle travel. They go into Pittsburgh, 10 a.m. game win. They go into Jacksonville, get a win. It's like Sam Darnold's a real deal. Go ahead, brother. Yeah, one of Hembo's stats was that the Seattle Seahawks are the first team since I think the 2006 to 2008 Patriots to have nine straight road wins while winning the turnover battle. Unbelievable stuff. And I think McDonald's career on the road is like – I think that makes him like 10 of 11 now after beating the Jags.

1:24:06Maybe even 11 of 12. Maybe even 11 of 12.

1:24:08Pat McAfee:His team's real road warriors. And they're taking long ass holes. Seattle's so far away.

1:24:12Adam Schefter:Yeah, it's weird that he's not, especially with the home field advantage that we all remember at Seattle. His record at home is kind of the opposite of that, which is super weird. But yeah, Sam Darnold, when we all saw him play his best football last year, we all kind of had questions about Minnesota letting him go, moving Cooper Cup in there. His receiver numbers aren't really off the charts, but what he does, even in like the blocking game and all those things that kind of don't show up on the stat sheets are great. And then Jackson's been in Jigba. We talk about him a lot. He was a dog last year with Geno.

1:24:41Adam Schefter:Then DK moves on. He becomes a clear-cut number one, and he's been unbelievable. Not only in the slot. Most people view him as just a slot receiver. On the outside, he is just as good. Leading the league in yards. Yeah, he's a dog.

1:24:53Pat McAfee:Joining us now is the quarterback guru, the football expert man who's always on television during the football season. He's really handsome, likes to eat when he's on with us. I don't know if he'll be able to do that from a hotel room currently in Atlanta because he's calling tonight's game between the Bills and the Falcons at 7.15 on ESPN alongside Louis Riddick and Chris Fowler. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. You look so cool, dude. God, the sun's shining. Look at the clouds. Looks beautiful down in Atlanta. Is they going to open the top of that thing up? Mercedes? Yeah, I guess we found out today in the production meeting they're opening up the stadium and I guess that's a surprise because it doesn't happen, the roof, often, if at all, ever.

1:25:35Pat McAfee:So it has a balloon knot type open. That's how people describe it. A balloon knot is what they say it most likely depicts. I hope you guys get a drone shot above that as it opens. You know, because that'll be, it's pretty sick. It is a marvel the way they built that stadium. I think it's only like maybe$1.5 or$2 billion,$3 billion over budget or something like that. Whatever they piece it together. But it is beautiful. We love that stadium down there. Properly priced. And it's hosting a big one tonight. The Bills could become the third 5-1 team in the NFL. How do you feel about the way the Bills are playing in this Falcons defense?

1:26:09Pat McAfee:Are they going to be a problem for Josh Allen? Yeah, I think this is a difficult matchup for Buffalo and a good matchup for Atlanta. I think so, number one, in talking to Buffalo, the thing that stood out because we all thought going into the conversation with them coming off a New England game was this is a team that's had their run because they've been great on turnovers and takeaways and really good at penalties, and that wasn't the case against New England. And it was interesting to hear them all talk about how they felt like they just didn't play the how. The way they're phrasing it was running to the football, helping each other up off the pile, blocking through the whistle.

1:26:45They didn't feel they did that against New England. And they were all like, listen, turnovers, that's something we emphasize. It'll take care of itself, not tripping over that. But I think that'll be interesting to see how that plays out tonight offensively for Buffalo is like that they don't think that they played the how of how they play football to their standard last week. Dude, Atlanta is interesting defensively because, you know, for a team that is so young and so talented, like they unapologetically have said they went all in, you know, like they, they took that first round pick of next year's trade to go back in and get Pierce from Tennessee.

1:27:20They want to go after teams physically and be like the fastest team defensively in the NFL and you got Walker and Pierce, they're two rookie defensive ends or outside backers. They, they believe that as a team and a staff, like they're just on the cusp of breaking out here and like really starting to turn it on. So they're, they're fast and they're athletic defensively. I want to see how they match up against Buffalo, who just wants to maul you running the football. And then offensively flipping it. I don't know if I've ever heard a coach talk about running an offense through a running back the way that Atlanta runs their offense through Bajon.

1:28:00You know, they are just like we run every play through Bajon. Like we want to move them. We want to throw to them. We can throw them real NFL routes. We can get them in a slot. We can put them as a receiver. We want to throw them screens. We want to hand it off to them. We would snap it to them if we could. And so, you know, Buffalo's got a defense that has struggled against the run. If Oliver plays tonight, that's huge. But I think Atlanta can have success running the football against them tonight. And this is the number one and number two offense in the NFL when it comes to time of possession.

1:28:30So I think possessions will be huge for both offenses trying to score points and obviously being good in the red zone. Did you say Bajon?

1:28:39Pat McAfee:Because I think I say Bajon. You're saying Bajon. I have absolutely no clue the right way to say it. You're there. You met him. Did you not? I mean, you're acting like a journalist.

1:28:50Adam Schefter:He came out this year, I think, and said, I think it's how Dan has said it. Yeah, he says Bajon now. Bajon.

1:28:58Pat McAfee:Bajon. Bajon's sick. That sounds sweet. I mean, if you go for, like, the pronunciation thing on my board. What's that called? What's that called if you had to guess? If you had to guess what the pronunciation thing is called on your board, just what that is described as. The pronunciation thing? Oh, good shit. But here For his name it's B-E-E Z-H-A-N See that would be B-J-A-N That's wrong And I think there's one person that makes all those boards And that one person I think missed the one interview That B-J-A-N potentially did Whenever he talked about that Let's talk about the other side You talk about B-J-A-N being every single position for him James Cook since Joe Brady has become the offense coordinator Has been cooking his ass off What's the prop that you found tonight for James Cook in the first quarter, Conrad?

1:29:47He currently is plus 144 to have over half a receiving yard in the first quarter.

1:29:53Pat McAfee:That feels right. James Cook, I think you think tonight, I mean, obviously Atlanta's defense, you just talked about how good they can be, and you think it's a problem potentially for the Bills. Are we going to get some magic tonight, you think, especially with how Atlanta views Bajon and Josh Allen's in prime time? I mean, is there over under 49 and a half? Obviously, that's a lot of points. Do we feel, is that how you feel, and is it what they're expecting? Yeah, I do think it's an offensive football game. I really do. I think because if you think about it from Buffalo's perspective and Cook, right, you know, I don't know necessarily how Atlanta is going to come out defensively and play.

1:30:28Atlanta's coming off of the bye and, again, young pieces on their defense. You could sit there and live in the world where you want to play zone and keep everything in front of you versus Josh Allen. You're going to get smoked. This is offensive line that's one of the best in the NFL. They'll just continue to hand it off to Cook, and Josh has become elite at that. And so then there's the reality of like, okay, well, you've got to go challenge them. And you might sit there and say Buffalo doesn't have a guy on the outside that scares you that much, but then Buffalo's so good at motions and Shakir and Cook out of the backfield and Kincaid.

1:31:03And so I think that's going to be interesting tonight is watch how Atlanta wants to try and play Buffalo defensively. and I talked about it before. I think Atlanta's offense, dude, six first-round picks on their offense. Six. I mean, they're so talented, and they could run the football so well. And Buffalo's defense really struggles against stopping the run. Again, Noah et al. for the past couple weeks, Ed's a big, big, big deal. But if Milano doesn't play, that's a huge deal for their linebacking core. And so I just think Atlanta can have a lot of success running the football as well. I think this could be a very high-scoring game, yeah.

1:31:40Pat McAfee:D-Bot's got the last question about your game tonight.

1:31:42Adam Schefter:Yeah, you're talking about the run game and how they're using Bijan, Bijan, number seven, back in the backfield. What are you seeing from Michael Penix, Jr.? We know exactly who Josh Allen is, but what are you seeing from Michael Penix? I know they run a ton of pistol. I don't know how you feel about that now, but how do you feel about that offense as a whole with Michael Penix being the trigger man? Yeah, they run pistol more than, I think, twice more than anybody in the NFL. I've kind of shared my thoughts, So I understand the pros, and I believe that there are cons to it. I think Michael is this, still really young when it comes to NFL reps.

1:32:14Obviously, everyone knows really big arm down the field. He's more accurate down the field than he is closer in those short passing range or passing routes. And so he finally hit some of those two weeks ago against Washington. I'd like him to move Michael a little bit more. I feel like Michael kind of catches the ball in that shotgun and pistol world. And when number one is there, I would tell you this, D, but I think he's throwing the ball like fifth fastest in the NFL. And then also I think he's hit like been hit this year, second least in the NFL behind Sam Darnold. So for a guy that's kind of a big armed, big bodied guy to throw the ball downfield, they don't do it a ton.

1:32:54And so it's a little bit more of a catch and throw offense at least through four or five weeks of this season. I'd like to see more play action. I'd like to see them try to stretch the field vertically. I'd like to see them move him off of that launch point. You know this is a defender. Like, if a quarterback's catching, you know, 40 snaps a game and throwing it, and 38 of them are just kind of that five yards behind the center, I just think that's advantage defense. And so I'd like to see them throwing the ball a little bit more. The thing I'll be paying attention to the most for him tonight is, in their short passing game, everything under 10 yards, can he have elite focus and ball placement on those things like it's the 40 yard or downfield because the big throws downfield he's really good but those short throws right now i think that's something he has to be really good at and they they think that he really has to grow in for them

1:33:46Pat McAfee:fernando mendoza for instance yeah he's putting that ball on a face mask basically every single time somebody's running there the elite accuracy is what you're referring to we're not saying Penix doesn't have that. He does. And that's what was so special about that Washington run. He was thinking about the Roman Empire all the time and dropping that thing into a bucket. The easy ones seemingly are always the problem because that's like the high focus ones. It happened to me. I think it happens to a lot of people in different jobs. It's like, this seems easy. Don't let your brain win. Don't let your brain win.

1:34:12Pat McAfee:You still gotta have incredible stuff. There's another Monday Night Football game on tonight that you will not be able to watch in real time, but I'm sure tomorrow morning you'll have full takes about the entire four quarters. AJ has a question about the Bears in command. Tonight. Yes, tonight when you're watching the Bears commanders on your flight home, when you're re-watching, I guess, what should us in real time, when we're watching this game, what should we be paying attention to? We know Caleb has been playing well with the Bears on two-game win streak. They seem to figure some things out.

1:34:38What will you be paying attention to? And you didn't deserve that. Yeah, I probably did. Number one, how does Caleb play under pressure? That's been the area that he's grown the most in this year. You know, this whole offseason, AJ, it was everything about Caleb's got to play in rhythm and in timing. He's got to play faster. If you kind of watch his tape and then you look at every single number that has value to it, he's actually playing a little bit slower than he did last year. The only area that he's playing faster and is dealing with the pressure, he's playing not only faster, but much better, making much better decisions.

1:35:13The ball is coming out of his hands quicker. I think there's a lot more answers to their offense. Armstrong for Washington as a pass rusher has been very good. Very good, Dorrance Armstrong. So how does Caleb handle pressure? I think it's advantage matchup-wise Chicago. I've talked about this, and Dee Butt knows it. Washington's defensively living in a little bit of a world of they want to be a man coverage defense. I don't believe they have the horses to play that style that they want right now. And if they do, there's advantages for your tight ends and your backs in the pass game. There just are.

1:35:45There's advantages to take shots downfield because they have defensive backs that want to make plays on the football. So you can take shots with double moves and whatnot. So does Chicago hit some shots down the field on a double move? Do the tight ends and backs have a lot of success in the pass game? And then for Chicago defensively, you better handle Washington's 4-by-1 stuff. Washington gets in these 4-by-1 formations, and they stretch you sideline to sideline horizontally, and there will be a sixth offensive lineman on the field when they're doing it. It's kind of like how much I love what Pittsburgh's doing offensively with their stuff.

1:36:20and all of a sudden you get like a run at you with six offensive linemen. Jaden could be a runner and then you could have a perimeter screen. It's like you're getting this vertical stretch and this horizontal stretch at the same time. So I think how Chicago's defense handles that.

1:36:32Pat McAfee:Cliff Kingsbury in his bag, bro. Yeah. You know, what's the guy's name? Hal Mumme? Yes. The air raid. Hal Mumme. Cliff kind of comes from that world, doesn't he? He's got that entire thing spread out. Take a couple college setups, put it into the NFL. Then also we've got a quarterback that can handle absolutely everything. We got a couple great matchups here on Monday Night Football. Yeah, we do. I mean, legitimately, these are very good matchups. Caleb Jaden's awesome. Can't wait for that. Would watch that at any time. And then, obviously, Bill's Falkins. You got a doubleheader next week as well?

1:36:59Yeah, doubleheader next week. Tampa at Detroit and Houston at Seattle. Okay. Okay, we're starting to hit it. Football's finding its rhythm.

1:37:07Pat McAfee:We can't wait to watch both of those games. You just mentioned a team right there that you didn't have a lot of positive to say going in. We started to wonder if you had maybe personal gripes against a couple people that are maybe in that building. you just said something positive and you put one of your like cryptic tweets dot dot dot out go ahead tone yep dan i would say i will bite uh you did do one of those things where you put out the tweet where no one knows what the hell you're talking about it could be could be bad could be good could be somewhere in the middle so i just wanted to you know get your opinion what what this meant i really really like pittsburgh's offense right wow Oh, man.

1:37:41Yeah, that's Arnie Smith and Aaron Rodgers over there. You know that? He's in football, baby. Mount Washington. It's really, really, really impressive. It's like I think the way, one, there's no question they know who they are, their identity, what they should and should not do. This first play of the game, I love it. So, like, the way I kind of categorize the offense after a couple weeks now is like it's creatively cautious, and that's meant as a positive and a compliment. Here's the way I view it right now. they started this six offensive line package where there's six offensive linemen on the field.

1:38:15And sometimes there's one tight end. Sometimes there's two tight end. This is like three or four weeks of it. Now, when they started it, there was really only one play out of it. Right. They're doing a lot of this. I'm going to get to this. There's only one play out of it. Yesterday, they had six different plays out of that six offensive line package. So, like, I love when teams take simple things and just make them look complicated to the defense. So now they're doing things, at least from an offensive perspective, as simple for them, but it's complicated to the defense. I think the second thing is this, and D-Buck could speak to it a little bit more from a defensive perspective tone than I can, but their pass game is really one of two things.

1:38:53It's either quick game, like right now it's happening, and if you play zone, Aaron's finding a completion. If you play man, it's one-on-one, or they're moving the pocket. They're getting Aaron outside. And so that's the cautious element of it. And the thing is, they see it so well. Like, if you're going to play DK one-on-one in their quick game, Aaron's going to throw it to DK. And they just think that they'll get those creatives or explosives out of that. But rarely do you see them just drop Aaron back in the middle pocket, hold, hold. It's just not who they are. I think it's really, really, really smart offensive football in Pittsburgh right now.

1:39:28Very impressed.

1:39:29Pat McAfee:And it all revolves around how do we keep Aaron alive? Yes. You know, because the offensive line was not great early. It's like, how do we even know if Aaron's a good quarterback for us if he can't do anything because he can't protect him. Well, we got a 6 '7", 320-pound tight end that we can add in here. They start doing that jumbo package basically on every play. Yeah, man. And then basically say, hey, now we can protect him. Let's start drawing up plays. This might be the evolution of football here. This might become the next step, especially with how easy they've made it look and how good they've made it look.

1:39:57Pat McAfee:This is the best Aaron Rodgers has looked in years. This is the best an Artie Smith offense has looked in years. This is the best the Pittsburgh Steelers offense has looked in years, and they're doing it in their own way, which I think is special. Yeah, and I think it all kind of really starts with Darnell Washington and how they can use him because he's obviously an offensive tackle that runs like a tight end, and you saw it on the first play there yesterday. So he's playing like 90 % of the snaps now, and then you got Jonu, who they're getting a lot of end-of-rounds with and doing some quick stuff with and screens too, which is awesome.

1:40:23And then Spencer Anderson is the sixth offensive lineman that they're bringing. He had 17 snaps, I believe, yesterday. So, yeah, they know who they are. They are not – like Dan said, there is no five, seven-stop, seven-step drop straight back where Aaron has a chance to get clobbered off the edge.

1:40:38Pat McAfee:AJ, hold on, Dan, one quick thing here. AJ, tell me about Aaron moving, bro. Like, legit. Because at the beginning, I think last year with the Achilles, I think there was a lot of people calling him old. He takes a lot of pride in his old athleticism, does he not, AJ? Yeah, he's got that sneaky athleticism, too. You know, whatever you play, he can play basketball, dodgeball, whatever you do, he can do it. See, I think we're seeing him, like, we're seeing him, it seems like he feels very, very healthy. He's moving around well, man. And that's the thing. I think people going in weren't real worried if he could move and elude any pressure.

1:41:07He obviously can go ahead, Dan.

1:41:08Pat McAfee:I'm sorry about it. No, I think the premise of their offense right now is just being very efficient. And that's that's why I go to that six offensive line tight end or double tight end packages. You know, their philosophy is, hey, let's get four or five yards because then they can get into a quick game. And if they're going to play zone, it's a first down because Aaron's seen so many defenses and he knows the vacancy of zone. And then it now, like, as I watch it, I'm like, oh, this is why we trade for DK. Cause then we're just creating all these one-on-ones. There's not a lot of teams that are going to be able to cover DK one-on-one.

1:41:39And, you know, you're just constantly moving Aaron. And so it's, it is a reality where like they are, they do not want to be in third and long. No, no team really wants to, but it's just a conscious effort of them constantly being like, let's be efficient. I really, last year they were doing some, like, having some success. And you guys remember me saying, like, hey, it ain't good enough on offense. It's not going to beat teams that actually matter. I feel differently about this group. Like, I watched this offense for the past three weeks and I go, this offense can be good enough to beat a Buffalo, a Kansas City, an Indy.

1:42:17That because they're efficient. They're efficient, man.

1:42:20Pat McAfee:Aaron Rodgers currently sitting at 150-1 to win the MVP. Oh, man. They're currently 4-1. If they have 13-14 wins and Aaron Rodgers brings the Pittsburgh Steelers back into playoff and Super Bowl contention, there's going to be a lot of buzz around Aaron Rodgers winning the MVP. He's not the only player, though. There's a lot of guys making their run for it right now. Yeah, Dan, you could argue that Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career, and unfortunately the Cowboys give up 40 to 50 points every week. So is that basically their recipe for success? It's like, hey, Dak, we're going to need you to throw six touchdowns every week, you know, to give us just a sliver of a chance to win.

1:43:00And then on the flip side, Bryce Young and the Panthers. Is that the type of win you think that can finally kind of turn the tide for that entire franchise? Because that was massive. Yeah, I was so impressed with what Carolina did yesterday. I was so impressed with, I mean, their offensive line, I promise you, will be on AQ's top five group. I'd be surprised if they're not number one. They kicked the absolute crap out of Dallas' defensive front in their double-team game. I mean, their double-teams were just – you rarely see in that league where double-teams literally move defensive tackles five, six, seven yards down the field.

1:43:37They were moving people at the line of scrimmage. I wrote down the name, number 87, too, because I don't want to be disrespectful, but Bryson Cremaine for them as a blocker, as a wide receiver blocker, was absolutely off the charts with their tight ends. The Bryce was really good. Tep McMillan looks so smooth. I mean, Tep McMillan, don't overthink it, guys. When you watch, he looks so smooth. Rico was outstanding. They dominated at the line of scrimmage. I think it's a huge win for them, absolutely. Now, like, they get a little bit momentum going in Carolina. I'll say this about Dallas. I don't think Dallas can – I think Dallas has to adopt the Detroit philosophy with Dan Campbell.

1:44:15I really don't believe anything less than fourth and four. they should not go for. They should go for everything fourth and four or less. Your defense is not a good unit. It's not going to get better. Teams know it. It's a good offense. Dak is playing good. George was outstanding yesterday. He's making himself a ton of money. I really don't believe, like, once you get into scoring position, Aubrey's sensational. I think Dallas should be 80 % going for it on fourth and five or less.

1:44:41Pat McAfee:How about onside kicks, too? Just do it. Might as well. I don't think you can. Oh, you can nowadays, right? As long as you declare it. Now you're losing, though. You've got to be losing, I think. But no matter the time of the game, if you're losing, you can do it in the first quarter if you're down. I think so, yes. I think if you're losing, you're allowed to do it. I think they changed the rule from the fourth quarter to open it up because I think teams were like, well, there might be a time where our defense can't stop a fucking nosebleed. And we would like to be able to get the ball back because if they start on the 50 or if they start on the 35, it doesn't matter.

1:45:11Pat McAfee:It's three plays. So there's a chance that that has been taken from us with this new kickoff rule. I will say, though, there's more electricity from the kickoff. And I will say this about the Carolina Panthers. Rico Dowdell coming into our lives, being who he is, is awesome. How did he describe this Dallas Cowboys defense where he said all he wanted to do was get a win against them boys because he's playing there again? They weren't buckled up. They need to be buckled up. And if they're not buckled up, we're not punting. We're going for onside kicks. Connor has the last question for you here. Dano?

1:45:42Yeah, Dano, love when you say yesterday. It's the best. but Justin Fields and the Jets, it's been quite the scene. I think a lot of us thought at the beginning of the season, maybe Aaron Glenn is rowing in the right direction. Maybe Fields and Garrett Wilson are going to work out and turns out they fucking suck again, dude. What do you think about that whole entire situation? Are they just going to sell everybody? Brees Hall to the Chiefs, Garrett Wilson to I don't know, the Bucs. Do you expect that to happen? Because we actually, or not we Pat actually apologized to all of England because this wasn't football.

1:46:20It was the most disgusting thing that's ever been graced solely on its own as its own game without anything else on. It was the worst display of football I think the NFL has ever put on. Actual stat, seven less first downs in the history of international football. Yeah, that offensive tape was a total disaster. It's as bad as an offensive tape as I've watched in years. I'm surprised because I really enjoyed time with them a couple weeks ago having Monday Night Football and was really impressed with Aaron Glenn. It's not equating to wins right now, so I can't defend that. But that offensive tape was absolutely terrible.

1:46:59Garrett Wilson's career is like dying there. He's being wasted town-wise. I've defended Justin a lot, and I don't think yesterday's performance is totally on Justin. But Garrett's open. Garrett's open on tape yesterday. and we like my thing is this with with dude if it's man coverage just throw the ball to him i don't care what the route says i don't care what the read says if it's man coverage throw him the ball and we're like the final play of the game throw him the ball and so i the jets got a really difficult situation right now because it's not going well offensively they they here's the thing also they paid the perimeter before they paid the front really like they they paid sauce and they paid garrett they're two really really really good players i don't necessarily know if that's the best way to go about rebuild i think they have to entertain trading everybody of value absolutely because you're oh and seven and or oh and six and it's it doesn't look promising yeah

1:47:54Pat McAfee:and they're trying to turn it around anyways they're trying to change the entire culture and remember aaron glenn told aaron rogers go ahead and pack it up and get the hell out of the building and uh well i just don't know pat when the pet the player says it like when if you're garrett wilson you've done five or six years of this now just signed a new deal just signed a new deal just signed a new deal this is just like miles garrett i think it's hard for people to find any empathy for miles garrett because he wanted to go somewhere remember he wrote the entire letter about saying it's not just about being all pro or something like that i want to win games and then everybody's like oh miles garrett's leaving miles garrett's leaving then he gets 40 million a year resets the entire market it's like all right miles garrett knows what he's signing up for whenever he goes to Cleveland Browns, which is the same thing Joe Thomas signed up for, even though he wanted to win.

1:48:40Pat McAfee:I'm not saying they don't deserve to win because of how great of the football players they are, but I think it's just like Tyreek going to Miami. When Tyreek decided to go to Miami and get the biggest check, everybody, it's hard to have any empathy. It's like, hey, you decided to leave and go get more money. You made that decision to chase the bag. I think it's hard for people to feel empathy for that. You know, like Garrett just signed a deal. Yeah, no, I mean, it's a fair point. I understand all that. Holy shit! Adam Schefter told us in the last hour, I don't forecast any coaches getting fired anytime in the near future, but there's a chance that I get off this call and I get a text and somebody's been fired.

1:49:15Pat McAfee:They have. We can guess it. Callahan fired. Tennessee Titans. You didn't get it. No way. We would like to say Coach Callahan, obviously following Mike Vrabel down there in Nashville. From what I've learned about the people of Nashville and how they felt about Mike Vrabel, not only the coach, but the human he was and how connected he was to the community and obviously the unceremonious exit that he had from the Tennessee Titans. And then also being able to earn the number one seed for the Tennessee Titans in the AFC when he had like 100 guys on the IR. Like Vrabel was, I think, beloved by Titans fans.

1:49:49Pat McAfee:I think there wasn't a lot of positive. I think Vrabel was certainly one of them in the community. So whenever he's just kind of kicked to the curb and then Callahan's brought in and it goes the way it goes. And then Ryan, obviously, and it goes the way it goes. I think this guy was swimming upstream a lot. Yeah. Okay. And obviously it didn't work out. And the way he handled, I think, and like kind of represented the Titans, I don't think a lot of people in the community were like, we just went from Vrabel to this guy getting into a Paul Kowarski every day. So not that Vrabel didn't get into it with Paul Kowarski, but Vrabel also put the pads on, punched people, won games, and everything like that.

1:50:21Pat McAfee:So I think this was kind of a, is the fit still a thing that is obtainable? and then also how's the product on the field. They've been not fun to watch. Cam Ward, fun to watch. He's been miserable. This might help him out, actually. This might make his life a lot better, even though it has to certainly suck. First firing of the NFL season, Dano, you thought it was going to be maybe Miami? Is that what you thought? I'm not giving away what I thought. Yeah, sure. I mean, I know Cali. I've played for Cali. It's a results business. They were bad. They were bad. God bless Cam Ward. This is why quarterbacks fail, man.

1:51:01Now, first year of the NFL doesn't matter, and it's a coaching search. Everything will be about Cam Ward. They've got to get a lot more talent on this roster. But it'll be all about Cam Ward. The next hire will be all about Cam Ward.

1:51:13Pat McAfee:AJ, Callahan was 4-19 as a head coach with the Tennessee Titans, and obviously if he won the next 15, he'd be at 500. That seems like a little bit of a tall task. Is that what the Titans would go ahead, Dano? No, let AJ, let my brain think for a second of coaching replacements. Okay, got it. Yeah, Dan, I want you to go through the list in your head of who is going to take the job off the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, I guess, Dan, who do you think they will be targeting here? That's a good question, AJ. That's a good question, AJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, immediately this is off the top of my head.

1:51:43I would go Joe Brady, offensive coordinator from Buffalo. He's under the throw. I don't know, Gruden. I hear Gruden's name constantly. Gruden in Nashville. Gruden in Nashville. to be back in coaching. I have heard that from multiple people that he desperately wants to be back in coaching. DC for the Chargers. Clint Kubiak has been great. Minter from the Chargers defensively. But you gotta with those ones, you gotta make sure that the offensive coordinator is a stud because everything's gonna be about Cam Ward.

1:52:17Adam Schefter:You go first time here, Coach.

1:52:18Pat McAfee:Mike McCarthy's out there. Is that what you think?

1:52:22Adam Schefter:I mean, I would want to go with an established coach who's been there before.

1:52:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, and he would love – I assume Cam Moore would be something to get him going. I assume now he's on fire. Connor was getting upset that you didn't save Mike McCarthy. I mean, you suck, dude. What? Wake up. What do you mean? I need a sucker to use my brain to get together some coaching candidates. Let me think. I mean, come on. Well, then AJ gave him enough time to think about it. He didn't think about coaching McCarthy. And he did like 10 seconds. Relax. It did come out of nowhere. Shefter said it's not going to happen. And then he said, but there's a chance. And it did. So we apologize to Coach Callahan.

1:52:56Pat McAfee:Obviously, the football world is what it is. You know that as a coach, especially coming up in the family of coaches, results-oriented business, 419 in stake. And it didn't feel like it was going to get any better. Maybe Nashville finds something that's a better fit for them. And, Dano, we can't wait to hear you tonight on the call, brothers. You continue to really brainstorm all the right answers. Use them tonight. Unload on that thing. We can't wait to hear you and Lou and Fowler. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. That's Dan Rolovsky. Mike McCarthy, Donner International? No. Hell yeah. Hey, Donner.

1:53:28Pat McAfee:Tootsies?

1:53:29Adam Schefter:I don't feel sorry if a coach is getting fired anymore.

1:53:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's tough. Amen. 49 mil, James Franklin getting to be a professional golfer if he wants. That's a pretty sweet gig. Yeah. You've got to pick up and move your family. A lot easier at 49 mil. Yeah, right. Okay. All right. We'll see you tomorrow after tonight's big games. We're going to make the picks on the other side. I feel like we really nailed that. Yeah, I know a lot of coaches. It's not just the head coach, obviously. All the assistants. But they're all getting paid, too. I have some friends that are assistant coaches that have been fired from places, and they're getting paid$2.5 million for the next three years.

1:54:07Pat McAfee:And they're like,$2.5 million is a pretty good fucking amount of money, bro. Yeah, I'm golfing. Yeah, play golf every day. I see my kids. I'm doing that entire thing. And then maybe that third year where I'm making the$2.5 million for it, I'll get back in it. I'll try to find my way back. But honestly, I might start a business with these guys. We have seen the residual effects it takes on the kids, though. It's not good. Yeah, Mitt is very much a, whoa, God. Yeah, true. Yeah, but he's the outlier in his family. Everybody else is, like, smart and good at sports and stuff. Engineers and stuff. Yeah.

1:54:38Mitt's a bit of an engineer on his own. We've seen him put together some of, like, the chairs and the tables in here. He's actually pretty good at that. What's that place that has all the shit from Sweden?

1:54:47Pat McAfee:IKEA. Ikea. Yeah. It's like, Mitt can beat Ikea. Yes. Which, hey. Twice on Sundays. Attaboy, Mitt. Mitt's been bringing it. Yeah, with that being said, there's two chairs in the gazebo. The screws fell out. You can't sit in them anymore. That is true. Yeah, but that's Ikea football right there. That's true. Thank you, Mitt. Thank you, Good job, Mitt. Mitt conquers these things. Mitt conquers these things. He doesn't. Like, for real. And he'll stay focused and walk in. Takes a lot of patience. But, Mitt is one of those guys, which I do think he learned from his dad. Special teams coordinator bounced around a lot of jobs.

1:55:19Pat McAfee:I mean, from Utah, Montana, Atlanta, St. Louis, Indy. Now he's in Vegas. I mean, he's been everywhere. He grew up, I think, mostly here in Indy whenever I was playing through his high school years. So I think he calls it home. But I think, like, if you give Mitt a task, I think growing up in a football family, like, always workers, it feels like. Especially because, hey, it's a hard road. You know, it's almost like rock star's life. Like, yeah, we're going to have to pick up and move. We don't have it at home. We're rolling stones. That's how coaches feel and act. James Franklin up there. How many years was he up there for?

1:55:48Pat McAfee:Twelve? Yeah, a long time. That's a long time, dude. Seventy people in his building. And he's overseeing. And now all of them have to wonder, what's next for me? Is the new guy going to keep us? All of that. And is Terry Smith automatically in charge of all those people? Because he's the interim head coach? Does he go to Kraft? Yeah, it's Kraft, I assume. It's so hard in college, though. How do you shore up all the recruits? How do you get the decommitments back? What do you do? That's why you want to get someone there as fast as you can, but you're going to have to wait until someone makes a long playoff run if you want to try to steal a big-time guy.

1:56:18Pat McAfee:Maybe that's why they did it so early, though. They're like, let's get this out of the way now so then throughout the season we can work on the answer. Because whenever a transfer portal opens up, we need to have an answer by then. Yeah, definitely by then. Because if we're doing it after that, obviously you're fucked, just like we saw with North Carolina. And this just hit us right now, AJ. This is me thinking of this for the first time. I'm assuming other people have thought of that. But the fact that they did do it early and these other schools did it early, you having it figured out by first transfer portal window, especially if you have access to all the money, is a huge deal.

1:56:51Pat McAfee:So, like, your current D commitments, it's like, all right, we'll see. But you might be able to get them back depending upon who it is. And whoever you bring in next, they're going to want their people. It's an interesting little game here. Yeah, like the D commitments ultimately do not matter at all because, like, Penn State isn't going to wake up tomorrow and they're like, hey, actually, you only have$500 ,000 to build your roster next year. That's not happening. So whoever the new guy is, whenever that gets decided, they're still going to have the pick of the litter for all the best players in the nation and with the transfer portal.

1:57:24But I'm sure that is tough that now you kind of just, especially if you're one of these guys who's maybe interested in it, you're kind of just on pins and needles. Like, okay, well, I have to focus on what I'm doing with my current team. No, remember, they're not talking.

1:57:38Pat McAfee:Remember, coaches don't hear any of it. Sure. It's just the agents behind the scenes. What are your thoughts on that?

1:57:42Adam Schefter:I mean, they're set up for success still. You still got the resources. You still have a good recruiting pipeline. I always look at coaches where they're starting in the area. You got a great recruiting state with Pennsylvania and Ohio right there. But I know you guys were saying they wanted to fire him early. He could not show back up and be the head coach today after losing to UCLA and Northwestern and back-to-back. Northwestern at home is unusual. Yeah, that can't happen. He was there for 12 years.

1:58:08Pat McAfee:This is his culture. This is his building. To his credit. Go ahead, sir. What they were to what they are now. I said thanks for the success and congrats on the success up there, and I immediately got a bunch of Penn Staters that were like, what's the success? Because that is legitimately how people feel. It's like, I don't know, dude. They're getting$700 million renovation in the stadium. They're still selling out. They were in the fucking playoffs last year. You know, national championship hopes. It's like, that's not easy to do. And the fans are like, well, how come Ohio State and fucking Michigan and are in there every single goddamn year.

1:58:39Pat McAfee:Boom. That is literally all the Penn State people think about. That is what their thought is. Like, we can't even brag that we are the Big Ten. Like, we can't even do it. Especially Oregon comes in last year. And Oregon does what Oregon does. It's like, that's where Penn State wants to be. Their donors and everybody feels like they are A.J. And it's like, that's the expectation. And that's just one of those jobs, even though they haven't got there in a while. And they didn't have, I just looked, for the six seasons before James Franklin got there, they did not have more than eight wins. So, like, he took them from that to where they are now.

1:59:10And now they're looking for a guy to take them from what James Franklin did to a national championship contender. But as far as, like, the D commitments and stuff like that, as soon as you get a new head coach, those are going to be your first calls. And the thing that's happened, there wasn't a lot of coaches fired last year. There's a lot this year, and they're all happening right now because everyone wants the first pick to litter on that next head coach. And if you miss out on that, that's probably led to it as well.

1:59:30Pat McAfee:AJ, I'd like to say we appreciate James Franklin for the kindness he has shown our show. I would like to say. He's always been great. He legit has always been very open and really cool. I agree. He's been very open and talked to us about everything. And we've acknowledged the pressure on him, too, because we've got a lot of Penn State people around us. I have a lot of Penn Staters around me. I grew up, obviously, in Pittsburgh. A2 Shipley comes in every single week. It's like I hear how these people feel on a regular basis and the way they think should be happening. And then I lost the Northwestern at home.

2:00:00Pat McAfee:It's like this guy just forked over$25 million to build the stadium up and you're going to lose the Northwestern in here? I don't – And SIG's out there winning big-time games. SIG's out there winning big-time games. That does not help at all. We know that. How about that game, dude? How about SIG, dude? For real. This is back-to-back years. They had to rebuild twice now. They got more – Winning in Oregon. That right there, like that win, that's a program win that's going to be on the wall forever. Yeah. And I think SIG, though, is going to underplay us. I just know the road victory or whatever.

2:00:31But that's a huge deal to go into Oregon and beat them, especially being Indiana, like you said. We think of them from before times as a basketball school, and now it's a legit football school.

2:00:40Pat McAfee:A lot of people saying, yeah, they're a good team. It's Autzen, though. Like, this is Autzen. People don't win in Autzen. It's far. The weather's going to be what it's going to be. The crowd is insane. It's a Pacific Northwest crowd, so the crowd is always going to be loud. It feels like that region up there has good hooligans, good fan base, good loud crowd and everything like that. And it's like, I don't know. It just felt like it wasn't a night game. No. Huge. It felt like there was some things that were kind of leaning, like maybe this is when Sig's team says, hey, we've been here before, we can do this.

2:01:11Pat McAfee:Like that is a, that's a huge step for a team to take, I think. And you can say what you want about Iowa, but like playing at Iowa is a hostile environment. It's a bigger stadium than Autzen is. Like for them to kind of, like that was like their, you know, and Sig said it after they beat the shit out of Illinois. He was like, that game is in the past now. Like we'll have a true test next week in that road game. So I think it's after you do that and you win the way they did, it's like, realistically, we can go anywhere and we can beat anyone. I don't know if everyone else in the country feels that, but in here, we know we're good enough to go anywhere and beat anybody.

2:01:43Pat McAfee:And after the game, Fernando Mendoza and Surratt had a little bit of an interview. This is how it went. Also, I want to give a quick shout out to my guy, Pat McAfee, for shouting us out. Kizzy's friends, my guy, Steve Levy, and also Boston Conner. Let's go. Go Hoosiers. Come in! Hoosiers for life, baby. Let's go, brother. IU and Sig forever. IU, Sig, and Signetti forever. No, but I'd like to say, whenever I heard that, I was watching it live, and then there was Jenny Dell gave a hilarious, all right, ESPN people on CBS right now. Because there's people that are in her ear or that are just not happy that that is happening.

2:02:20Pat McAfee:At that moment, I thought she handled it hilariously and greatly. But whenever you talk about Mendoza and the boys hearing us, I think that's cool. But I also think that because we're in Indianapolis, like we see them you know like i think i got eyes on this hoosiers team more than maybe most people do because i'm turning on the local news and i'm watching mendoza fucking spit i mean i'm watching him elite shit i'm watching this and i'm like is everybody seeing this and then illinois lost a lot of people picked illinois i was the only one who picked indiana up there on game then it's not just the boys on the desk it's like a lot of people are like that was funny sig iup we're not doing that again they wanted to count them out and then they just steamroll them and then like you said And Sig, everybody's just on the next week, like, oh, that wasn't a – and then people are picking Illinois to win the next week.

2:03:04Pat McAfee:It's like, well, are we going to say anything about this Indiana team's for real? It's like I think the quarterback makes their offense very, very dangerous. And on defense at all three levels, had a nice tape on it. It's like all three levels, they got experience. They got all Americans everywhere. It's like they feel like they're for real. And I think Sig, although he'll never say it, I think he feels much more comfortable in those massive games as well.

2:03:24Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah, for sure. When you get a win like that on the road, like there is no environment that you're not confident going into. And having a quarterback like Mendoza, I mean, he always picks the right spots. He's very accurate with the ball. And physically on defense, I feel like they can line up with anybody and punch them in the mouth. And we always talk about, you know, being on the field when we call the playoff games just looking at both squads just physically. I still don't think Indiana matches up getting off the bus with these guys, but when it comes to actually playing and turning on tape and seeing who's punching who in the mouth, they've done it at the highest level.

2:03:57Adam Schefter:It was a huge, huge win for Sig. But a job like this, like Penn State. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Those are going to be the cards. He is going to be the hottest. Him. He's got plucking green. Matt Rule. You should see the house. Matt Rule. They gave him raves after last season on Cuban recently because of Sig. I believe he said he was going to put more into the NL. Who do we see being the next coach? Well, I just saw something about Sig at Indiana that made a lot of sense. It was like, yeah, he could go to Penn State for an extra, what, $3 million a year or whatever it is that they're going to decide to pay him.

2:04:31But, like, for an older guy, the chance for, like, they might end up naming that fucking stadium after six minutes. Created a program. Yeah, exactly.

2:04:38Pat McAfee:He created a Big Ten football program. His legacy will be insane if he decides to stay at Indiana. And we've heard him, like, he's got a beautiful house. You know, like, why would he be looking to – he said it, and they were showing it from last year. He was like, you know, and it was kind of tongue in cheek, but he's like, why would I leave Indiana? He's like, we are an emerging superpower right now. Like, you know, everyone kind of wants to be us. So for him to do that, to then go to Penn State, like, it just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it feels like Indiana is all aboard the SIG train. Yeah. Okay, President, AD, Cuban's biggest NIL booster.

2:05:12Pat McAfee:And I think the SIGNETIs are as well. We talk about him talking about his house, but every time we talk to him and his family, they love that area. Yeah. But once again, that has happened in college football. That's true.

2:05:25Adam Schefter:He's 64. Yeah. So that part. Matt Rule makes sense. It's tougher. Really? It's tougher to move at that age. I don't know. I mean, Matt Rule is a Penn State guy. He's already commented on how much he loves Penn State. I understand he loves Nebraska. But if Penn State wants to pursue him hard and give him what he deserves, I wouldn't be shocked.

2:05:43Pat McAfee:Matt Rule and Pat Craft back at Temple did their thing there. Game day ended up being there. You know, that is. Oh, they've been together before? Yeah. Has Matt Rule been asked about the Penn State job yet? Today.

2:05:52Adam Schefter:Yeah.

2:05:53Pat McAfee:He talks about how much he respects he's from there and how much he loves it. He loves Penn State. He said he loves Nebraska. But he loves Nebraska. Of course. Of course he does. You can love both. His name immediately mentioned, though, Matt Rule up there, especially with the success that he's had. And if he was able to get the resources, not that Nebraska doesn't have them, but if he was able to go back home and tell the story of Penn State like he could because literally growing up there, they think that would be quite a weapon in recruiting. What year is Raul? He's got another year of eligibility, so he could go with.

2:06:19Okay.

2:06:20Pat McAfee:And Dana Holgerson, he's the offense coordinator. Not that we want to just strip Nebraska. No, no. We do not say that. Sounds like it could happen. Yeah, but this is potential outcome, and we don't like this, okay? We don't like that we're saying this. But Dana Holgerson, offense coordinator for Nebraska, has said he's okay not being a head coach. Like, he enjoys not being a head coach. And Penn State can pay coaches, you know. They can really pay coaches. They have. They've shown it before. Hey, you don't want to be a head coach? You just want to be a coordinator? Sweet. How about we pay you like mid-level head coach money to be offense coordinator instead?

2:06:54Pat McAfee:It's like that's the weapon that you have whenever you have the conglomerate behind you, which is why they're expecting to win, AJ. That's exactly why they're expecting to win. Yeah, they are. Like when do you hire a coach? If you're hiring another college coach, it's going to be after they make a playoff run. Is that how – we're going to have to wait that long for Penn State? It's going to get a little messy, I guess. We checked it last week. It's not bad. Yeah, they got to run. I know, but I'm saying does Rule maybe – nah, I won't say it. Paral games? Come on. I won't say it. Does Rule definitely – he's definitely on the list, I assume, for the Penn State people saying.

2:07:28Pat McAfee:Yeah. For sure. This is me on record saying I have no information. I was very lucky to catch up with Dr. Pat Craft, the athletic director. I know him. Okay, Neckroll wearer from Indiana. Got a chance to chat with him whenever we were up there in Happy Valley. Every year we've gone up there. Like I have massive respect for him. in this particular world, no information. Cannot have any information because I got this thing in front of me, let alone the thing on Saturday. That one on Saturday? Can you imagine? Cannot. Yeah, cannot have any info. Cannot give this brain any info because at some point it's just going to dance out somehow.

2:08:02Pat McAfee:Well, actually, they're talking to... Matt Rule's going to Penn State! Well, really, what's Nebraska think about it? And Reese gives me a full... Well, Nebraska obviously has said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, yeah, of course. We don't know that? That's not a piece of information we all know? Okay, got it. Yeah, so I'm out of the loop on that whole thing. But you're right. When will they hire? And Terry Smith could go on a run right now. Terry Smith could go on a run. He's a good ball coach. He's a great ball coach. He's a Western Pennsylvania goat. So we will obviously pay attention closely to that.

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2:09:54Pat McAfee:Sure, yeah. On the spicy one, definitely salt. Yeah, yeah. Strawberry, though. Let's go ahead and get a little sweetness on that. I'll tell you who's been showing. Nope, not going to do it right now. That'd be very rude for me to do that.

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2:10:59Pat McAfee:half of the hammer. Don Cowboys AP. Tony's here. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of NFL matchups and everything DB. Good D, bad D. Darius J. Butler. Good to see you, D. Butch. AJ, I saw you celebrate Halloween. I thought that was a very creative costume. You really explored the space, I'd say, and history. Yeah, I did. It was, you know, like haunted celebrities slash athletes type thing that could be dead or alive. So I was JFK. My wife was his wife, obviously, Jackie O. Worked out well. It was a haunted house, obviously. and JFK came back from the grave after Dye's was his costume. I appreciate you really trying to own it and being a method actor, too, from the photos I saw.

2:11:38Pat McAfee:You won all in. We like the way you guys treat Halloween. I also like the way you're seeing the board, AJ. Now, we have two games tonight. Okay, we have two games tonight. I'm 5-8. You're 7-6. This is multiple weeks in a row where you've had the lead coming in this Monday Night Football. Now, there's two games, so I can technically catch up to you. And will I do that? We shall see. D. Butch, your thoughts on the 7-15er. Bill is at Falcons. Bill is favored by three and a half. Dan Orlovsky on a call. Dan Orlovsky says, I actually don't like this matchup for the Buffalo Bills. He said he likes this for the Atlanta Falcons.

2:12:12Pat McAfee:Do you see it the same way as Dan O? What are your thoughts on this game and the three and a half point spread?

2:12:16Adam Schefter:That surprised me, hearing that from Dan O, knowing how highly he thinks of this team. He just said Joe Brady should probably be the next head coach for the Tennessee Titans. So it definitely surprised me. I do love the young talent on the Falcons side of it, But I'm going to take the Bills. I think after that loss on primetime against the Patriots, they're going to come back with fire in their eyes. So I'll take the Bills covering three and a half.

2:12:39Pat McAfee:You will reserve the right to be able to change your pick right after Tone gives us some information. What are the percentages on who, and is there any different lines we can get? Yeah, 73 % are on the Bills tonight, which is not a shocker. Three and a half is the lowest you can get if you want the Buffalo Bills. four and a half is the highest you can get if you want the Atlanta. It's almost like I figured that was the case. That 70-some percent there on the Buffalo Bills. Does that change anything for you? Nope, I'm sticking with it. The public has stunk. We see the stats. We see it. Yep, I'm sticking with it.

2:13:14Pat McAfee:AJ? Darius Butler? Go ahead. No, so D-Butt, I appreciate D-Butt sticking with it, even though I guess the public should not change how we think the game is going to go. But I think you hit it on the head. these Buffalo Bios coming off a loss, as Mike McCarthy said, they got a case to red ass, I think, and they're going to come out there fighting. They're going to be ready to roll. Josh Allen's not going to let them lose again, so I'm taking Buffalo. Okay, so I'm taking Atlanta just strictly because I have to to catch up with you against the spread weekend. Good pick. Tone, yeah. Can you tell those stats again?

2:13:47Pat McAfee:I get it at what? I get a plus four? Yes, four and a half, actually. I get a plus four and a half, and then 73 % of the money is on the team that I'm not on, So I'm with 27%. In the record throughout the year with percentage over 60 % on something, what is the record? 15 and 35. Fucking joke's on you. And you, AJ. Bills are coming off a loss. Maybe. Did the Falcon, who did they play last week? Did they lose last week or did they stay at home, get really healthy and watch the Bills tape for two straight weeks because they're on the bye? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, that's what they were doing.

2:14:25Pat McAfee:studying. They were in cold tub and a sauna, which are you supposed to do before workout or after workout, AJ? Sauna? I don't know. What is it? I don't know. There's no science. People talking cold tub, don't do it after workout. Cold tub, yeah, you're not going to gain the muscle that you need, I guess, if you lift really heavy and then get in the cold tub. I've read that. Is that real? That's going to take away because the blood is bringing what you're looking for, the recovery of the muscle. So you're basically getting in an ice tub saying, nope, actually, everything you just it, not worth it.

2:14:55Pat McAfee:Don't do it. Sends blood away from the inflammation. You're looking to be getting inflamed. You're looking to tear a little bit. You're looking to repair a little bit. You're looking to grow a little bit. And the cold tub says, I got you. I'll make you feel better. They're saying don't do it after lifting. But what about in the morning? Am I supposed to do it? I'm a fan of contrast. Do it in the morning. Do it before you lift. What about that? Yeah, because is it just a wake up? Is it just a wake up? When I know I'm going to be, I'm going to be the man who wakes up in some water. Is that what's going to happen?

2:15:23Pat McAfee:Is that what that is?

2:15:24Adam Schefter:You know what? You do what makes you feel better. So that's what I've been doing. What's Wahlberg do? What's Wahlberg do? Well, he's. I know it starts at 315. Like, is he going cold? He's not doing cold tub after, is he? I know he does cold tub all the time. At the turn.

2:15:40Pat McAfee:Yeah. I think he's called his golf cart, actually. Yeah. It's a cold tub. Yep. The pedal was actually in the tub. So he's able to drive it. And it's got the little almost balloon naughty top so he can slip in. Yeah. And it is a cold tub. And then he can bounce out. And then he's back to golfing. Those people that can take care of 10 things at once are really impressive. When Mark Wahlberg released that schedule, I think everybody was mind blown. But I don't think I've heard him back off it really, right? No. I think he's just like.

2:16:10Adam Schefter:I think he's gotten more. I think he's at it. Yeah.

2:16:12Pat McAfee:He's like, yeah, what do you, yeah. You basic humans can't do what I can do. I can play nine holes in 47 minutes. Okay. Now, there might be some rule changes, but we're still out there golfing. We're still doing our thing. I'm morning workout, sauna, and then I'm dunking my head in a cold tub. I just dunk my head.

2:16:29Adam Schefter:Just head. Ashton Hall. Is that what he did?

2:16:31Pat McAfee:Oh, is that his name? Yeah. Yeah, that was him. But he's doing that. Yeah. Cracking a bottle of water. That's not a bad play. I might start doing it. Yeah, it's fresh water. I might get the bottle. I might get the bowl and use the cold tub. Now you're talking. Oh. And then Ashton Hull. I'm not racing anybody, though. Put my ass on slow-mo. I'm cool, though. I think I could get you a pretty good little knee drive arm swing.

2:16:58Adam Schefter:Yeah, you can race DJ Khaled. He's quick.

2:17:03Pat McAfee:DJ Khaled's got those little legs moving sometimes. You know? His first 10 is legit. I know that. Yeah, he's not scared to move, too, which I respect. You know, because if I get to that stage of life, I think I'm going to be so worried about my joints just because of what I know. you probably won't even see me attempting some of the stuff that he's doing so i got massive respect for what he's bought he's able to accomplish we saw a power ranger a colts power ranger this weekend at the indianapolis colts game this guy was awesome i mean he was right there's no way his joints are happy at all about what he's doing but he is round ball of passion for that indianapolis colts team halftime show uh actually the halftime show was uh it was like an open a suitcase thing briefcase and then just said you want a thousand bucks in a car.

2:17:47Pat McAfee:A thousand bucks in a car. A thousand bucks in a car. And then a green card and not an actual green card. That would be a big deal. Green Caesars card. And then like a white Caesars card and then a digital

2:18:05Pat McAfee:chuckle up. Sorry, it's a good halftime show.

2:18:08Adam Schefter:No, that was a fat Power Ranger. Is that what you said? The fat Power Ranger? Oh, in the crowd.

2:18:14Pat McAfee:To be clear, they tossed Fat Power Ranger into halftime show. I think much more captivating. Probably. I would say Blue hit the – This is cool. This guy needs to be around more. I'm assuming it's a guy. I apologize. Power Ranger, I guess. Is that his wife? You think it's his wife with him looking at him so lovingly? Down there right to his left. Yeah, the Bond. He was riding Han Solo. He was there about an hour and ten minutes before the game. and he wasn't saying next to people he knew. You found him on social media. What were the pronouns? I'm him? I think that is. I'm not sure if it was I'm him or if he went by himmy.

2:18:53Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Could have been all-time himmy. Yeah.

2:18:55Adam Schefter:He's not fat either. He looks more probably semi-jax. What I kind of cropped out is that his penis is tucked into his boots. I left that out. We did see that.

2:19:06Pat McAfee:Because we thought maybe it was a very vascular leg. But you never know, I guess. But if he was out at halftime show, I think we're talking a little bit more magic, a little bit more spectacle. You know, there was some good shows yesterday. We blew off the – after a touchdown, wind blows that shit on field. Oh, no. On field. So now there's a full panic to grab the sparklers and shit off the thing while the kickoffs lined up out there. It was good.

2:19:32Adam Schefter:Did they do the Red Dawn thing again, the umbrellas? What do you mean? The fucking parachutes, I'm sorry?

2:19:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, all blew to one place. Yep, come on. That's the wind. The draft. People really hated those shadows. It's so bad on that. Yeah, it didn't look good on TV. The TV product is horrendous. I had no idea. I think it doesn't feel... I'm not getting into it. It looks awesome when you're in there. Yeah, it looks cool when you're looking. The exact view that we had. Yeah, if you're not sitting where we are, it sucks.

2:20:01Adam Schefter:Yeah, feel level.

2:20:02Pat McAfee:Feel level. Yeah. Window. Yeah. Top, beautiful, sunny. There's two cranes in downtown Indianapolis. Good things are happening. You see those through the window. That's about it. Although some clouds. So, like, for us, it was perfect. Everybody else said they didn't like it. Sure. Looks bad on TV.

2:20:19Adam Schefter:It does.

2:20:19Pat McAfee:It doesn't feel as big, I don't think. Yeah, you're right. Ain't that right, AJ? It doesn't feel as big. I think it feels morning-y. Which is like, what, like 9 a.m. JV games in high school. And I'm not saying it feels like that, but it's just weird. The angle of the sun at that time coming through, how it does on the field, it does look weird. Well, and also one side's closed and then one side is wide open. So you literally have a natural cutoff of a shadow. And then the shadows are kind of weirdly parsed around. There's like little different parcels of shadow. And that's because it's a window and all these other things that are going on.

2:20:51Pat McAfee:It's a beautiful stadium like when you're there. It is absolutely glorious. But if it's a perfect day in Indianapolis in October and that sun's shining, it might be a little optically confusing for the other team. And maybe that's why we won.

2:21:05Adam Schefter:Maybe. They threw a flyover again? What's that? Did we get a flyover? No flyover. Oh, okay. Have we seen the... I don't know why there wasn't a flyover. The Atlanta Stadium. Have we seen a video? I don't think I've ever seen that one opened up.

2:21:17Pat McAfee:I saw it just yesterday, I think. See? I'm talking about opening it. And it just looks like a... Yeah. Balloon knot. It just looks like a... Balloon knot. You know, because it... It's like a cyborg-type looking situation. Transformers? Have they played with it open before? Obviously they have, but I don't remember. I don't know. I've seen a video of it opening up. I think this was a part of it, but I don't know why they haven't used it open. Yeah, here it is. Oh, that looks sick. Yeah, but can you do the opening up? There it is. So it's like a sick. So much money just in that part of that stadium.

2:21:53Yeah, the science behind it all. Jeez.

2:21:57Pat McAfee:It's a really cool thing. I wonder why they don't open it more often. I wonder if the, I don't know. I honestly don't know why they don't open it. I was going to immediately make like 10 excuses. Well, like, well, maybe flooding and they don't have water. It's like, well, they should. They spent like$5 billion on this thing. Maybe the temperature isn't good. It's like, well, it should. They spent like$6 billion,$5 billion on this thing. It's like that thing is a marvel. It is an engineering marvel. It is beautiful, dude. I think that's the, yeah, I'll say it. That's the nicest stadium I think we've been in.

2:22:30Pat McAfee:LA, interesting. It rained inside. Yeah, so far. Jerry World's still great. Jerry World is awesome. Jerry World is awesome. Allegiant's cool. Yeah. I mean, that was pretty fucking nice. I'd like to be there for a football game as opposed to being there for Mania. I'm pumped to see what the Buffalo Beals Stadium is. All these new stadiums that are coming in, it's crazy the difference between what old stadiums were and what new stadiums. There's like malls in these fucking places. Yeah. The old school places are awesome. Like, they're awesome for football, but they don't have the infrastructure underneath the stadium.

2:23:06Like, these new stadiums, they have a whole city underneath the stadium, pretty much, and places you can go and all this stuff. Some of these old stadiums have nothing. Like, there's not even hallways to go through to get to anything. So it is kind of – it's very, very different depending on when your stadium was built.

2:23:20Pat McAfee:That's quite an advancement that we don't really talk about. Yeah. Of technology is the stadiums, because it is something to do when you go to the stadiums, as opposed to just you're going there to get in your seat from tailgating. It's like they want you walking around that stadium. They want you in that like it's a casino. They want you to experience it. There's little like 3D portions of the things you can go into. Oh, here's a team shop. Oh, here's a full shop. Here's a local shop. Here's a restaurant. Here's another restaurant. It's like everything is just set up like a mall. It's literally set up like malls.

2:23:49Adam Schefter:Yeah, and they use it for so many other things. You talked about mania, like all the other shit that you can do, like the huge concerts and shit. So we've been in the guts of some of these stadiums. So, yeah.

2:23:58Pat McAfee:I think it's the nicest one. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly up there. Yeah, I think it is. Just in my head, I've tried to think of. Very loud, too. That Ohio State game on New Year's Eve we're at. That was the loudest stadium I think I've ever been in. Agreed. There was a hum to your ears after that, like a ringing after you left that way. National championship was super loud. How lucky have we been to be able to be in these places? Where are you judging this from? standing on the fucking field. Right on the field. The Rose Bowl obviously doesn't compare. We're not comparing Rose Bowl to Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

2:24:32Pat McAfee:It's impossible to judge those two. What we're saying is amongst the new stadiums, we think the Mercedes won, seemingly from our experiences. In and out too easy? Yeah. I'll vote Allegiant. You'll vote Allegiant over Mercedes? I'll vote, yeah.

2:24:47Adam Schefter:It's close, but I'll go Allegiant.

2:24:49Pat McAfee:I guess they got what? They got good setups in their suite levels. Yeah. club.

2:24:54Adam Schefter:The on-field suite. Jerry World, man. Just seeing, when you see Allegiant in Vegas, it looks like it's from 2040. Yeah, you're right. It is a spaceship. Yeah.

2:25:04Pat McAfee:Jerry World's sick. And now I'm just walking through their suite section that goes right to the field. That restaurant.

2:25:10Adam Schefter:We saw Jerry and his family pulling up the whole thing. Jerry World's like 15, 16 years old, too, isn't it? They take care of that shit.

2:25:20Pat McAfee:They take care of their stuff down there. Surrounding area is cool there, too. Very. Yep. All right. So, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland also, right? Cleveland is – they just got approved for one. It's coming, yeah. Allegedly. Now they're fighting back. Now the airport had to clear it because that's always the issue with, like, indoor practice facilities. It's like, is there a local airport? You can't build the indoor practice facility this high. Now they're thinking about building a stadium near an airport. I mean, that's going to be a whole thing. This is an entire debate. Cleveland people necessarily – aren't necessarily thrilled about the changing of a stadium to begin with, so I guess there's a little push and shove coming.

2:25:54Pat McAfee:Whatever the case, can't wait to see Buffalo. Can't wait to see Chicago. Can't wait to see Cleveland. Tennessee. Tennessee is going to be awesome. I mean, it is. These new stadiums are awesome. Commanders getting a new stadium are incredible. And for tonight, I'm on Atlanta. You guys are on the Bills. I would like to tell you guys bad news, boys. Jeezy. Halftime. Oh! Yeah, this is a big deal. You know, this is a big deal. I think he just did a Vegas, announced a Vegas show for TM 101. I'm not 100 % sure. He just got done with basically a black tie cocktail event traveling of, you know, his bangers from back in the day.

2:26:40Pat McAfee:2005 is when I graduated high school. So that was the exact year when Jay-Z was about to go absolutely crazy. I mean, the T-R-A-P-S-T-R got us through so many workouts. Jeezy got me to the NFL, I would say. Same. I would say Jeezy got me to the NFL and through life, I think for our exact generation. So I don't know how many people in our generation are going to be there at halftime, but the entire city of Atlanta, I assume, is going to go crazy. That's going to be a tough place to play in the second half for Josh Allen.

2:27:07Adam Schefter:Can I change real quick? Yes, you can. I'm going to Falcons. Wow. He reserved the right. We said it earlier.

2:27:13Pat McAfee:He reserved the right to change the Falcons, okay? plus three and a half. AJ, you're the only one riding with the Bills. Let's go to the second game of the evening. The Chicago Bears take on the Washington Commanders. Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels. Special, special stuff happening in Washington since Jaden got there and have Chicago and Caleb figured out what their special sauce is going to be going forward. He's looked much better than he has in the past couple weeks. Jaden and Washington Commanders feel like a much more veteran team as opposed to a team just trying to figure it out. They're favored by five and a half at home.

2:27:45Pat McAfee:Dee Butch Who do you like? How do you like it?

2:27:47Adam Schefter:That's a lot of points. Five and a half. Chicago's coming off a bye week as well, right? Yes. Two-game win streak. Back to what Connor said. Is Wale performing at halftime? I need to know this. That's a good question. I think O 'Goodie is, right? Who is that? Wale. Oh, wait. Wale did that song? Wale did not do. He produced it. Oh, Goody. Him and the two. Okay, so O 'Goodie is going to be performing.

2:28:09Pat McAfee:I don't think Wale had any producing creds on that one. You sure? You just wrote it? I don't. That would be a producer credit, I think. I don't think he's part of the publishing or the master. Pertinent information. I don't think he's part of any of that. What would that be said? Put your left hand up. Who are we? The Commanders. That was a little bit of a heater there for a bit. They needed it at that time. They did. They needed it. They showed up for sure. Do you like the Commanders? Minus five and a half?

2:28:37Adam Schefter:The battle of the former one and two picks. I'm going to go with Caleb Williams covering at the Washington Commanders. I think Commanders win, but I got the Bears.

2:28:46Pat McAfee:Chicago plus five and a half. Anything else we need to know about this line tone? 51 % is on the Bears, so it doesn't qualify for any of the most bet on games or anything like that. This is also the game that sent the Bears into a downward spiral last year and sent the Commanders to the playoffs on a Hail Mary. List of injuries for the Commanders here. You got Noah Brown growing knee. He's hot. That's not good. Terry McLaurin quad. He's hot. That's not good. Sam Quasmi, knee. He's doubtful. Chris Rodriguez Jr. and Debo. Questionable. John Bates, Jaden Daniels, full participants. Okay. So that's what information we have for the Commanders.

2:29:26Pat McAfee:AJ, are you going to ride with the commies or are you going with Darius Butler and the Chicago Bears plus five and a half? I do not love seeing some of those great players on the injury list not playing tonight for the Commanders, but does not sway me. I will take Jaden Daniels and the Commanders minus five and a half. Okay. I'm actually – Okay. I feel good about taking the Bears plus five and a half and taking the Falcons plus three and a half. I'm sorry, plus four and a half. Okay, I was going to be forced into some picks tonight, and I'm okay with both of them because I think we've got two very good games tonight.

2:29:59Pat McAfee:And this is week six of the NFL season wrapping up. Good luck to everybody on the call. We can't wait to spend the evening with you. Let's go to some overreactions from the weekend that was. Put out a bird call saying, hey, good morning. It's another glorious overreaction Monday. They cannot wait to hear what you have to say. We can't wait to showcase some of your thoughts. We can't wait to hear how fans around football feel about their teams. If you could send in, all you've got to use is the hashtag. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But I believe it became a top trend. There were some things that are very serious and maybe very positive trending.

2:30:31Pat McAfee:I don't want to say anything, but it feels like there's peace in the Middle East. That seemed to be trending right there with us. Peace in the Middle East. That feels good. Been hearing about that for a long time. Peace in the Middle East. beast in the Middle East. That was trending. The reason why I found out is because hashtag I don't want to overreact. But past the Middle East I'm like what's the Middle East trending for? Let's go ahead and find out. Holy hell. Okay. It seems like good news. It's also good news whenever we get a chance to hear how football fans are feeling around the globe.

2:30:56Pat McAfee:Let's go to the first one. AJ Ty picked his favorites. This one's from Boston Connor. This guy he's a rascal. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But we're back bitch. Get used to seeing these two everywhere. A new dynasty is upon us. Bills need to win tonight. I worry Buffalo won't be able to handle New England being first in division after week six. Okay, so you're giving a warning to the Bills. Not just a warning to the entire league, but obviously the Bills, you need to wake up. There's some magic brewing yet again up there in New England. Yeah, not even a warning, just more so like I am genuinely worried because the Bills are up there with one of the most fickle and soft fan bases when it comes to people on the internet.

2:31:35And so if this happens, Then they'll do a whole song and dance about how the Patriots aren't actually good and the Bills. It was a fluke that they lost in Buffalo. But that's just kind of part of the game that you deal with when it comes to the Bills. It's just undeniable at this point. I'm very excited about it. Vrabel is the guy, especially with Brian Callahan getting fired. Tennessee, you fucking fools. You really fucked that one up if you just hung on to Vrabel. But you didn't. and thank God for Gerard Mayo and Robert Kraft drafting Drake May because the partnership together will equal Super Bowl and it's very exciting and all of a sudden the Pats, you know, we got a variable revenge game against the Titans.

2:32:16Then we have the Browns. We're kind of looking at a 6-2 New England Patriots if they can take care of business like they did Sunday.

2:32:22Pat McAfee:Hey, we're happy for all you mass hauls. We watched you go through it for a couple years. It was like a divorce was happening in real time. You had to pick between dad or dad and Belichick and Tom Brady. We know how that And we will see how it is 10 years from now, depending upon how everything works out. Certainly wild and loud, but they're all the way back. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Billy Tubbs. Bailey McComas. Boys, hashtag I don't want to overreact, but Colts are the best team in the NFL. Reserve the location for Indiana Jones statue right next to the sheriff. Clear the way for Tyler Warren, Josh Downs, and JT's Ring of Honor spots.

2:33:00Pat McAfee:Tune up the floats and pave the streets. parade's coming says bailey mccombs and i'll tell you what bill i didn't even think about us having to pave these roads so we could have a good parade let's get on that yeah okay we need to make sure that these floats can get through town without moats hitting them every other step but what i will say is indianapolis does feel good and if you look at the past the legends that brought football to become the most important thing in this city after you know a long time of racing and basketball being Indianapolis' kind of gem and baby. Peyton Manning was drafted here, and all of a sudden a football town became football lot.

2:33:36Pat McAfee:And these football people are seeing a lot of things that are reminiscent with great football here for the Colts. Got to have a super smart quarterback. We got him. Got to have a dog as a wide receiver. We got him. You got to have defense that can win in all different types of ways and hopefully stay healthy during warm-ups going forward. We got them. AJ, it's a beautiful time to be in Indiana. Obviously, you got the Hoosier football team doing what they're doing, number three team in the country. You got the Indianapolis Colts, number one team in the league, okay? By all accounts, can say that.

2:34:12Pat McAfee:Tyler Warren might be the best football player in the world. And then it just came out, Purdue is the number one team in the country for men's college basketball. So the state of Indiana is dominating sports. Welcome to the party. We're great to be here. But, AJ, you've been saying this for a while. You believe in this Colts team. I do. I believe in Danny Jones. I believe in their offensive line as well. I definitely do. And also, how about that defense? You bring in Jermaine Pratt. I believe he had double-digit tackles already yesterday. He just joined the team, what, how long ago? So, I feel like they're only getting better.

2:34:42They're starting to hit their stride now.

2:34:43Pat McAfee:I didn't even see that. I should have paid attention to that. I'm sure I heard his name a couple times. He didn't even react. I mean, this Colts team, we couldn't get a stop there for a while. Hey, look. That's going to happen. Going to have those. Hearts are a tough team.

2:34:55Adam Schefter:We're patching them up on the back end. All the guys that we thought would play big roles in the secondary. Kenny Moore has been out. Hopefully he's back soon. Mooney Ward got knocked out pregame. Lost another corner. So, Blackman, I'm sorry, stepping up, getting another pick. It's been patchwork back there on the secondary. But Lou's still finding a way to get wins. So, shout out to that defense. And you guys mentioned it. From the top down, been the best senior. It takes big three. starts there with the ownership level. Chris Ballard, he's been saying he likes his guys. Made some great signs in the offseason.

2:35:27Adam Schefter:Quarterback. JT playing great O-line. I mean, we got best team in the fucking league.

2:35:31Pat McAfee:Best team in the league. Enrico got to punt a couple times, hit some bombs. Michael Badgley, kicker back in town. He was here a couple years ago making kicks. It's a special time. We enjoy it. And I think they'll take all these different calluses that they're getting at this stage. You know, they're still a young team together. They can only grow from here, we all hope. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Gary Williams. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But Detroit has lost all their toughness and grit by being whiny babies about getting blown out by the Chiefs. Last week, the Chiefs had 13 penalties, and the refs have turned on the Chiefs.

2:36:03Pat McAfee:Now we have zero, and it's rigged for the Chiefs again. Foxy, you were already laying down the seed to make this an excuse, and then all of a sudden, lo and behold, all anybody's saying is, Patrick Mahomes is smooching with the refs, and they're saying it's not AI. It is AI. He's not smooching with any refs. You guys are just complaining because you're losing. That's what the other side's saying, Foxy. Listen, a lot of people were saying, Foxy, what you said on Friday was completely right. The refs screwed us. It wasn't a great officiated game. I'm not going to say that, though. I just think the Chiefs are back.

2:36:34Pat McAfee:They looked great. Mahomes is great. And we're a little banged up in the secondary. We've got to get healthy. We'll be A-OK. I'm not worried about anything. And it was nice, actually, because we lost. I kind of enjoyed smacking Juju in the mouth. Okay. AJ, let's talk about that. Obviously, the NFL is not going to be thrilled about this. Branch smacks him right in the mouth after. Blowing past Patrick Mahomes. Juju clearly thinks they're about to dap up even though they had a pretty spirited game, I think is how people would describe it. He ends up literally open hand smacking him in the jaw and then ragdolling him with his helmet onto the ground, which a melee is, you know, ensues.

2:37:11Pat McAfee:And there's camera people around. I mean, full chaos at the end of this one last night between two of the NFL's greatest games or greatest teams. What do you think about Branch and the entire situation that is? Yeah, I mean, obviously Branch had some frustration that kind of boiled over in this moment. This is a wild scene. It's Branch against everybody for a little while. He held his own and did very, very well. I would assume, listening to Shifty, too, like, are they going to suspend him again? Is he going to miss next game? Yeah, it sounds like it. It sounds like it. Side note, Brian Branch is on the fine list every single week.

2:37:44Pat McAfee:Since he got drafted, he probably has the most fines in the NFL. That's just a complete guess, but he's on that list every week. So I assume there will be some punishment here. which isn't good because we're already out our two corners. Brian Branch is no stranger to looking at his check and just seeing minus signs next to it. Oh, yeah. Where's this going? Where'd Jerry's money go? Where'd Gannon's money go? Where's it go? I'm sure great causes. Some are good. Definitely raises money, right? Of course. For sure. Probably the peace in the Middle East. Is that how it works? I know people have been trying to pitch for that for a long time.

2:38:16Pat McAfee:Thank you, NFL. Hey, shout out. Is that one of the causes? I think so. The pink cleats are sick to see. They are. Whenever you see one, it's like, oh, you were around or old enough for whenever this was an era, and that literally took over. Now we're raising money, obviously, for everything, which we love being a part of good things, not bad things in society. That pink run, though, had a real one. It sticks out. Oh, yeah. I mean, the pink is bright.

2:38:41Adam Schefter:On that note, Josh Hines Allen, he had a moment with his son where his son could be, I guess, like an honorary captain for the Jags before the game. I believe he was eight years old, had a battle with cancer, overcame it in full remission now. So that was an awesome moment. Hell yeah.

2:38:58Pat McAfee:Just think about how tough you got to be at that age to overcome that. And, you know, you draw so much inspiration from these kids. We get a chance, an opportunity to meet the people that create these stories and are going through very hard times for the professions that we had, both football and then now doing this. We get, you know, make-a-wish opportunities, phone calls. hey will you come meet these people and it's like the amount of mental toughness that it takes from very young individuals eight years old yeah already beat it's like hurts sucks all your friends are doing cool things and you just got to sit in here and literally sit in the pocket in battle and my message is always like hey what you've been through is gonna you're gonna be able to use for the rest of your life like you are gonna have a this sucks this is absolutely unfair that you've had to go through this i don't think it's cool at all i don't think you've like this obviously sucks, but for the rest of your life, you're going to have something that you're going to be able to lean on like, hey, I'm tougher than everybody else.

2:39:52Pat McAfee:And that's a cool thing to see happen. I thought Jags had to win. Honestly, in that moment, Seahawks go football team. But AJ, I genuinely feel that way. Like so badass to have to go through that. So true. I see it all the time with different kids. I got second, fourth grade kids where they're trying to do things for kids. Like there's kids that have had cancer and gone through all kinds of situations in their classrooms that do stuff to help them. I'm like, man, can you imagine like being that young? Not only like how your parents deal with it, but kids are resilient, man. Like kids can handle it.

2:40:24They can fight through. And you're right. Eventually it will be better for everything the rest of your life. Hopefully you think if I can do this, like I can do anything. But man, in the moment, that's just brutal for everybody involved.

2:40:33Pat McAfee:Yeah. But you get those beautiful moments that inspire everybody. Just like that coin toss. It was hard not to get like emotional with that, especially now with child. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Bones at Bones Pog. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but redo all of your top fives. Throw away all your lists because this man is one of one. Death, taxes, and JSN open over the middle. Seven fucking sacks by the defense on a pretty boy in a monster game by Sam Donald. Look out, NFC West. Your owner has returned. I saw a lot of Football Night in America, a lot of the West winning.

2:41:11Pat McAfee:West, West, West, how good the West is, how good the West is. Seattle Seahawks, very good. Not a lot of conversation because they're in Seattle, AJ. And that's not fair. We're not saying that's fair. We're just saying that's a reality. They've had monster wins on the road thus far. And Sam Darnold, this guy's unbelievable. A lot of people wondering how the hell did Minnesota let him out of there? How did Sam Darnold, like look at these pockets that Sam Darnold throws from. You give Sam Darnold any amount of time to throw and the guy is going to five people open. Like, I'm very, very impressed by what they're doing, how their defense is playing as well.

2:41:43But we say it's like the West Coast bias that we don't hear as much. They don't talk. What about the West Coast? Do they talk about them? Like, do they speak about them more than we do? That's a good question.

2:41:53Pat McAfee:And what shows, I guess, would we look to over there? I guess NFL Network's over there, right? Yeah. NFL Network's hopefully giving them a lot of love because they're special. And we talk about Cooper Cup. You said not just – we can't just look at the stats, and there was an incredible touchdown from Sam Darnold to Cooper Cup. I mean, this is just, I bucket Cooper Cup football there as well. Saw that with Stafford a lot. He's only going to get picked up, but he was a great signing for leadership and also loves the time from there.

2:42:19Adam Schefter:Yeah, absolutely. Everything he does, not only on the field, but what he does off the field. But not only in the pass game, the run game, like him getting in there, he did a lot of dirty work in that Rams offense as well. But he'll get in there and block his ass off. JSN, I think he's definitely in that top five conversation, along with the other NFC West superstar, Puka Nikul, who's banged up right now. But it seems like they're quarterbacks, too. I love how Sam Darnold and Matt Stafford are like, they're like, look, I'm throwing to the dog. Every time he's throwing the ball deep down, I feel like it's going to be level on the other side.

2:42:49Adam Schefter:And same with Stafford, whether it's 17 with Adams or Puka. I just love what they're doing.

2:42:55Pat McAfee:And West is playing good ball all of a sudden. Do we got to start? Maybe we have a little West Coast seg. Well, I think it's even extra right now, too, because everyone's saying, like, you know, you got the Mariners maybe going to win the World Series this year. We got the Seahawks who are unbelievable, and nobody fucking talks about either one of them because we're in Seattle. We're kind of part of the problem, I guess, Connor, aren't we? I just think it's just because the 49ers are a national brand and the Rams have won a Super Bowl in the last five years. But when you do think about the team now, the Rams, Puka, you just mentioned them, Niners, Bosa and Warner out for the season.

2:43:27Now it's officially like, oh, their defense is fucked because Fred Warner is the best middle linebacker in the entire league, and now he's done for the season. So, like, what Bosa, you know, they lost with him, Fred Warner can make up for. Now without Fred Warner, it's like that fucking blows. The Purdy stuff, the Kittle stuff, of course, but, like, when you just talk about heart and soul of teams, Fred Warner being hurt is terrible. Quad box, okay, top corner.

2:43:52Pat McAfee:See Fred Warner down. See everybody around. See Cart come out and just immediately go, this Niner seems cursed. This Niners team is absolutely cursed. Fred, we love. T's and P's, Godspeed. Absolutely sucks that that's happening. But this Niners team, it's like, what do they got to do? Honestly, what do they – is there some voodoo shit? Like, can they do something? Is there some sort of – what do they do up there in Detroit? They put whiskey in a bathtub? Yeah, that was the Bobby Lane curse. So they put whiskey in a bathtub, and then it actually worked, and now we're winning playoff games. Oh, yeah.

2:44:24Maybe that's a West Coast game. Who takes a bath? They need to find theirs. Well, of course they have. They just need to smoke a bunch of weed.

2:44:29Pat McAfee:I think that's already a comp. No, not doing that? No. They're not already doing that? They got to get in the stadium and find a way to maybe just put a big tarp over the top and hotbox the stadium, get everybody super fucking high, and maybe none of these guys will ever get hurt again. Because they're loose. I like that. Maybe they turn it into an ayahuasca tent in the stadium. That's not a bad idea. They go into a tent, right? You know what they do, AJ? I think the sweat lodge thing, they go in sober, and you go and just sweat until you die, and then you get out right before death. Oh, that's the TP they wanted.

2:45:00Pat McAfee:It's like the blue tunnel. They're not doing any ayahuasca on there? They're not doing any ayah? I assume there's both thoughts. Some people do. Some people go in there fully. I guess nothing. I don't know. And to the layman, you don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about just a higher level of medicinal plant medicine. Spiritual journey. And we're obviously cultured, so we understand how this goes. There's a rainforest you fly into. Right into it. First night they say, sweet, you comfortable with your life? No, that's why you're here. Get into this thing. From my understanding, it's 2 ,000 degrees.

2:45:38Pat McAfee:Correct. And they're pumping steam in there in the rainforest. And then that's the beginning of the journey of awakening, right, AJ? I guess, yeah. Maybe they do need to do that in San Francisco. Or sage. Sage should work. Either that or it's just one of those things where it's just like, hey, it's just never going to work for you guys anymore. What? You hate to say it. up the handle. It's week six. Yeah, I know, but this is every year. It's like, hey, just wait. Purdy's going to get hurt, or McCaffrey's going to get hurt, or Ayuk's going to get hurt, or Bosa's going to get hurt, or Warner's going to get hurt, or any of these guys who you're paying a bunch of money to.

2:46:13It's year in, year out. It's not just one of them. A lot of times, it's multiple guys. Yeah, and I also, you know, I don't want to go there, but I don't know if the team's cursed. I think it might be Shanahan, because Shanahan, if you were to look at since 28-3, and maybe it's happened because it came up on Rushmore, but old cool Kyle Shanahan wanted to score 50 points on the New England Patriots, so he threw the ball up 28-3 like a fucking prick. So, I don't know if it's the football gods like, you thought you were better than us. In the biggest game, you fucked it up. We gave it to you. We gave you the game.

2:46:49Tom Brady threw a pick-six in a Super Bowl, and you wanted to be old cool Kyle Shanahan. And unfortunately, now his team gets fucking ravaged by injuries every year. We don't like that. How do you get rid of that curse? Can you get rid of that curse? I don't know if you can, but I do know that you definitely need to know the OT rules in the Super Bowl in order to reverse it. Oh yeah, and they fucking forgot that too against the Chiefs.

2:47:12Pat McAfee:He went to Harvard, he forgot. That was wild. That might be an overreaction, but maybe not. We don't know. This is from Jamie Chadwell's stand account. Jamie Chadwell, obviously, football coach at Liberty. At sadsportsfan69. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But the Carolina Panthers are so back. 3-3 feels like 17-0. And I'm on top of the world. Buckle up, Jets. Because the Cowboys weren't buckled up, D-Butch.

2:47:41Adam Schefter:They weren't. And Rico Dotto, this was his revenge game. Back-to-back, 225 yards, total yards. On the ground and in the air for him. I love – there's nothing I love more than when a player talks shit before a game and then goes into somebody's stadium and backs it up. So this is back-to-back weeks now for him over 225 yards, 239 total yards, which is a Carolina Panther offensive record. And if you think about the players that have been in that program, Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Stu, Christian McCaffrey. So for him to have that record, pretty phenomenal.

2:48:14Pat McAfee:Great spin there too. I mean, the spin on that touchdown celebration right there of the ball was phenomenal. I think he's first got to be over 200 yards. There was one undrafted or yada, yada, yada. Okay. There's a bunch of rules, a bunch of records. That's a great spin. Can you go back a little bit more? I think they'll have a good shot. It was clean. Yeah, it was a clean. I mean, there's some bad ones out there. Here we go. Oh. Yeah, I mean, that thing's still going. He's digging it. Digging it. Still going. Yeah, I mean, that's a good spin. That turf's trying to eat it. Yeah. Turf's trying to.

2:48:45Pat McAfee:Trying. That turf's trying to hold you back. That turf is trying to hold you back whenever you're spinning the ball, and he got that thing. Rico's got a lot of confidence. Three and three. I love watching this Panthers team. A lot of people talking shit on the Panthers, you know? Of course. A lot of people picking against the Panthers. Panthers said, hold the phone. We got a football team. Canales' biggest win is what they called that. That's Carolina Panthers. He looked obviously excited. Can they continue to roll? We shall see. Congrats to the Queen City. Liberty football coach. I didn't expect that, Darren.

2:49:14Pat McAfee:Guy's a diehard fan. That's in Virginia, Liberty, right? So is that just Carolinas and Virginia just kind of all pulled for the Panthers? I believe, and I could be wrong, Jamie Chadwell came from Coastal maybe or something around there. I could be wrong. Virginia is an in-between state, though, just like Connecticut, where half will go to Washington and the other half, I know, are Panthers and mixed bag. Okay, so we got that. And then there's some South Carolina that goes Atlanta, Georgia, and then Orgo north of the Carolina Panthers. He was at Coastal, yeah. He was at Coastal, yeah. There you have it.

2:49:43Pat McAfee:So that's why Jamie Chadwell is beloved by the Carolina Panthers fans. Exactly. This guy can get a win. This team can't. Is Tepper back in his bag, bro? AJ? It kind of feels like it, right? I mean, they're 3-3, and the fan says it feels like they're 17-0. There's something about that. Like, hey, when you're not used to winning year in and year out, like, winning is really fun. It really is until that standard is like, hey, we should be competing for Super Bowls. There was 200 people at that last game. What was it,$5 tickets? Against the Falcons, yeah. $2 tickets or something like that? I mean, they were in a bad, bad spot.

2:50:16Pat McAfee:Then he offered up the entire stadium for the hurricane relief concert with Luke Combs and Caleb and Church, I think, and everybody that was doing that. And then all of a sudden, maybe vibes started changing. So you can break a curse. You can go from most hated owner in all of sports to maybe turning some things around. And I think Carolina's proving that right now. Let's go to the next overreaction. Donald Gimm at LocoGore66. LocoGore. This guy's crazy, bro. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the New York Jets aren't winning a game this year. Negative 10 net passing yards and nine sacks on Justin Fields.

2:50:50Pat McAfee:Congrats. You've single-handedly set back the NFL plans in Europe by about 10 years. At least they got their first takeaway. Hashtag zero and 17. Hashtag first pick in the NFL draft. And probably another one, hashtag fuck this team is how Jets fans feel. But I do appreciate the fact that Jets fans say, hey, that's kind of selfless of Jets fans, which I don't think any of us expected. Hey, we get to sit through this misery every week, every year. We are a select group. Don't make England do this. Don't make all of Europe do this. Don't make the entire country waking up, having a little brunch, little eggs with the family.

2:51:26Pat McAfee:Don't make them be forced to watch this shit on TV. I like that Jets fans are saying that. Jets versus Broncos defense looking ahead had to be the biggest nightmare lineup schedule for London in history. just with what Justin Fields was, what they're trying to build, how it's going to go. That Broncos defense feasted, and it was very apparent that they were outwitted, outdueled, outdone when it comes to the Jets' offense. And Aaron Glenn, before halftime, I will go back to it, he has the same eyes we have. And he's saying, let's get the fucking halftime. Please, let's get out of here. I don't want to do this anymore.

2:52:07Pat McAfee:They can get that fixed. They can figure it out. But I think the Broncos defense is going to do that to a lot of people. I think they're also, like, I mean, we're kind of joking, but also, like, if we really do want to grow the game internationally, like, I get good teams don't really necessarily want to give up a home game to go play. You can't be sending the fucking Jets over there. You can't be sending these shitty teams over there. Like, that used to be the thing. Hey, we got a game in England. Let's send the Jaguars when they fucking sucked. Like, that was the thing. They were pretty good over there.

2:52:34Well, yeah. I mean, you know, at times. You get some wins over here. Urban Meyer's first win. We need to be sending good teams over here.

2:52:41Pat McAfee:Period. Like, it's just got to happen. Well, especially we're waking up at 930 to watch it. Exactly. Okay, we're watching this thing. So it's like a primetime game, but in the morning, starting our day. This is the entire NFL Sunday. It's an entire day. We need it to be great.

2:52:53Adam Schefter:I mean, we do get one good thing out of this, and this is McQuaid facts. Did we get any new McQuaid tidbits? I mean, jerseys.

2:53:02Pat McAfee:See, but that's a really good question, actually. Did we get any? Yeah, yep. McQuaid actually did send a couple here. Shout out to at McQuaid NFL. Yep, at McQuaid NFL, Michael McQuaid. So we were talking about how this game was a snooze fest pretty much, and he just kind of wanted to put it in comparison to the Croke Park game, lads, in Ireland. So obviously 74 ,512 fans in Croke Park in Ireland registered 120 decibels in that game. Very loud. Really? Yeah, incredibly loud. I believe McQuaid actually had the little meter in his hand for the entire game while he was calling it. 120 decibels, lads.

2:53:37in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which is where this game was played on Sunday. 62 ,850 fans only registering 94 decibels. Now, could that be a sleepier game? Obviously, 13-11, kind of more of a baseball game score, not really an NFL game score, Lads. But McQuaid actually wanted to go a step deeper, Lads. He got some readings from the Tottenham substation, which is basically a power grid near the area, because he said, well, you know, yeah, decibels is one thing. I want to measure gigawatts, which is obviously what we're measuring for electricity and that kind of stuff. Believe it or not, he had some boots on the ground at the Tottenham substation.

2:54:18Only registered 300 ,000 gigawatts in that game. If you go to the Croke Park game. We need comparison. Exactly. Well, yeah, I mean, McQuaid's not fucking half-assing anything. There's not a power station that close to Croke Park. So McQuaid got in his car right after the game, drove down to the Bally-Lumford power station, which is about an hour and 15 minutes. Let's say roughly 75 kilometers away from Croke Park. That actually registered 500 ,000 gigawatts, 200 ,000 more gigawatts.

2:54:50Pat McAfee:66 % more. 66 % more. And a lot of McQuaid himself was saying, maybe that is because Carson Wentz and the lads are out there. And Carson Wentz may need to, we mentioned it, you lads mentioned it. Carson Wentz may need to just stay internationally, bounce from England to Yardland to Madrid. He needs to be the international quarterback. And I'll even go a step further, lads. He might need to play quarterback for both teams. Oh, I didn't think about that. All-time quarterback. At the beginning stages of football, that would be a very normal move for them to catch up. 500 ,000 gigawatts to 300 ,000 gigawatts electricity from Ireland, obviously, on display all morning.

2:55:29Yeah, exactly. And for McQuaid to go down to the Valley Lumford Power Station.

2:55:32Adam Schefter:I can picture him down there. Yeah, exactly. Went spelunking down there pretty much. I said, I got to find out the actual wattage of this because it's crazy lots.

2:55:42Pat McAfee:And that's another McQuaid fact. Thank you, McQuaid. Let's go to another overreaction. This one's from the Yeet and Yenzer at rbibi76. Love everything he's about. He won that title too. He didn't buy it. It's on his chest. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Stillers are a team of destiny. It's written in the tombs of the great pyramids. The stars are aligned. Mother Ayahuasca has spoken. Myron Cope and Joe DiNordo are smiling down on us. Here we fucking go, baby. Eaton Yenzer speak for all of you, Tony? Yeah, they do. We are finally back to playing Steelers football, and I've been asking that for a long time.

2:56:19You know, there was a time this year where my hope had faded a bit, and that was against the Seattle Seahawks, but I didn't know at the time how good of a team the Seattle Seahawks were. First two weeks of the season, the Steelers defense was giving up 150 rush yards a game, and they were only sacking the quarterback one and a half times a game. Those three games since that, they're averaging five and a half sacks a game. They're only giving up 80 yards rushing per game. Last three games, they've had six sacks, six sacks, and five sacks. So they are now playing Steelers defense again like they were supposed to, and then we're running the ball.

2:56:50We're bully ball. Aaron's getting the ball out quick. D.K. Metcalf was the best investment that the Pittsburgh Steelers have ever made. Things are great.

2:56:56Pat McAfee:Jalen Ramsey, two sacks. He gave a great quote afterwards. I'm going to tell my kids that I played in a game with T.J. Watt and Myles Garrett, and I got two-sex. That's pretty crazy. All the money they've invested seemingly working for the Spurs.

2:57:06Adam Schefter:Yeah, it's definitely paying off. That's what you want, the money you spend to show up on game days. Now, I think the Browns helped them out a little bit. I don't know how many times Dylan Gabriel threw the ball, but I feel like he threw it 79. So that's never a position you want to put. 52, I think. Yeah, I mean, that's crazy, especially when you have the – I think they have talented backs back there. But, yeah, this is the Steelers you want now. Dan O, he's come along. He's come over on the other side. Everybody's kind of on that bandwagon. Do you think – I know you're usually kind of pessimistic.

2:57:35Adam Schefter:They can actually make a run down the stretch. And, you know, the Bills, the Patriots, the Colts, can they actually make a run to the top of that NFC? Well, tell them, Tony. Patriots lost to the Steelers already. Yeah, that was – it was good. Different teams, both of them. Good ball game. Barely five turnovers. I do. I do. I feel really good about it. But the Chiefs are the team that scares me.

2:57:59Pat McAfee:Let's talk about that defense, though. Chiefs obviously found it on offense. We all saw it the last few weeks. The Chiefs is still the Chiefs, which is certainly going to be a conversation piece. But this Pittsburgh Steelers defense, Jalen Ramsey obviously getting home. Herbig, that little ha, ha. So good with his hands, man. Herbig, his body angle and his hands, like that dude's a stuff. This one right here. Oh, no, that was the deal. Look at that. Still. Could have had a pick, too. Imagine if they played on field turf. how much power you could bend much better because the grass isn't going flying off your cleats.

2:58:28You're not falling every play.

2:58:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, I didn't even think about the Pittsburgh Steelers and Akersher working against your defensive line. You guys have the defensive line, and you guys are working against it. I mean, Pittsburgh Steelers might be for real, huh, Bob? They are. It feels like yesterday was finally one where it was like, oh, okay, this felt like you get – there's sometimes the wins that don't feel great or whatever, and it's like we got lucky. This one felt good. This one, I mean, 22 straight at home against the Browns, so they're going to give you that, but it felt right. No, but the Browns got to figure it out.

2:58:58Pat McAfee:How about Coach Tomlin today, AJ? He never does that. Oh, he's the man. I love it. Hopefully as he goes, he gets even more and more wide open with it. Well, Andrew Barry must be smarter than all of us, I guess, this fucking guy. So this guy's good enough to be your starter five weeks ago. Now you're trading him in the division to a team that has no chance. We don't care. Are we trying to win football games or what are we? What the fuck is going on? I love the Tomlin set. He also knows that this week, I believe Steelers are – and Tomlin is 0-6 on the road on Thursday nights against divisional opponents.

2:59:29So he needs one here.

2:59:30Pat McAfee:He said it doesn't matter what happened in the past. I'm talking about the 2025 team. He said, I've got my ass kicked in a variety of ways. 19 years. It was awesome. Let's go to the next overreaction. Carson Spence at Carson Spence 20. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But? I was about 30 seconds away from fully giving up on the Chargers season. but that 6 '6 son of a bitch took some hits and delivered a win. Fully back until they lose again. Hashtag BDFU. Hashtag bolt up Carson Spence telling the truth over there. That's right. I mean, we can't stress this enough. The Miami Dolphins, okay, McDaniels come out and said, Tua can't be doing that with what he said.

3:00:08Pat McAfee:In that moment, at that time, that can't be what our franchise quarterback's doing, McDaniels said. Tua doing that because it's a loss press conference instead of a win press conference. so they had the lead with 40 seconds left. Touchdown drive down the field, they do. The Miami Dolphins. Darren Waller, we just added him, activated him. He's got five touchdowns, this guy. Everything could be going in the right direction for the Miami Dolphins, but instead, to old buddy Carson Spence's point, this 6 '6 mighty man, as Harbaugh described him, walks down the field and Cameron Dicker goes 14 of 14 on the season and hits a game winner.

3:00:45Pat McAfee:It's like that's crazy how much a narrative can change. But with that being said, the Chargers lose this game in the past.

3:00:52Adam Schefter:Yeah.

3:00:52Pat McAfee:This is a game that the Chargers lose in the past instead of winning.

3:00:55Adam Schefter:That's how fickle, you know, winning and losing is in the NFL. This could have been easily the third loss in a row for the Chargers. You know, it's all doom and gloom. But, yeah, you can make that big-time play. And as a defense, you go out there, less than 50 seconds left, they have one timeout. You got to find a way to get a stop. Ladd McConkie, I mean, he's an unbelievable talent. You get him the ball, he made something happen. and then Dicker the kicker who doesn't miss doing his thing. So that's two phases of your game, winning that game for you. And on the flip side, as a quarterback, as the leader, it's always a leadership council on the team, but he's at the top of that leaderboard as a quarterback.

3:01:29Adam Schefter:You can't come out to the media and say shit like that. Kamani Vidal, I believe is his name.

3:01:34Pat McAfee:18 rushes, 124 yards, three receptions, 14 yards, and a touchdown. This guy's unbelievable. Obviously, they have a lot of injuries at a lot of different positions out there in L.A. Harbaugh doesn't care. Neither does Herbert. Special team win over there, AJ, especially in the time crunch that they had to do it in. Yeah, it was impressive. Look at Vidal. Can you imagine tackling this dude? Look how big his lower body is. Like, guys like that that run behind their pads. I hate that cliche. Oh, they run behind their pads. But look at him. Just there's no easy way to get this dude down. When he runs hard, he's got to get some shake to him as well.

3:02:04So, it was an impressive win for real. But, yeah, the Dolphins, to a situation that's just bizarre right now. Dano definitely was thinking of them when he thought the coach was getting up.

3:02:13Pat McAfee:Absolutely. Kamani Vidal, Troy running back, third team All-American, okay, coming out of college. And then now he might find himself a job for the next few years because of how special he's been for this Chargers team. Yeah, and luckily for the Dolphins, they got Dowd-Dowd and then they got Vidal'd. So, I mean, that's just bad luck for the Dolphins going up against two of the best running backs in the league. It's okay, Gump. Any running back in the league is going for 200 on this defense. That's just clockwork. Judkins is going to do it on Sunday in Cleveland. Don't worry, boys. He's going to keep rolling.

3:02:42Pat McAfee:Well, I'll tell you what, it doesn't feel like you guys are quitting it all on each other. All right, let's go to the next one. Three games, three games we lost that you could have won. That's how close the NFL is, you know? Yeah, and I'm just saying that everything we're hearing out of there feels like kumbaya in that locker room. Good culture. It's kind of just every time Tua gets on a microphone, he just says something that just doesn't need to be said. It's awesome. Every time? Every time. He gets to the podium, he says something absurd. Well, what do you mean? I heard he throws five touchdowns.

3:03:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, he'll go home, crack a smile, he'll be fine, carry on. throw three touchdowns, bury the whole team. It's$212 million, dude. You're the leader of the team. You got to do something better than that. He was trying to speak to the boys. He wasn't. I think so, huh? Well, I think everybody has said, I'm not the right, Tom. Or the right thing to say. Bring up something nobody knows about and then say, I'm trying. They're not. It's like you're grandstanding on something you're building at the time you just lost. Nobody wants to hear it. Just a little self-awareness, I think. Is all Gumpy's looking for?

3:03:42Pat McAfee:I think that is what everybody... They also, like, I know they lost. They stink. I get it. But he could have been a little... Like, they fought back to take the lead. And then they obviously lost. Like, there was positives to take instead of just throwing that out there. Well, he took ownership, too. There was a lot of other things said at that press conference, which I saw a lot of people saying, I want to hear him say he threw three interceptions. It's his fault. And it's like, he did. He did. Just the only thing that got clipped is him throwing his teammates under a bus for something we didn't know his teammates were even done.

3:04:10Pat McAfee:You know, which is nice. And also taking a shot at leadership, which he in there rightfully said we. He did say we as leadership, so I think he owned that a little bit. But it's ugly down there. You're all right, Dolphins fans. You're all right. You're all right. Why you not? It's a lie. Because you never know. Every day is a closer day to the right answer for the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, which in this case, every day is a day closer to Mike McDaniel getting fired and kind of blowing up the whole thing and restarting. Nothing matters. A lot of season left. If you don't get rid of Chris Greer, nothing matters.

3:04:47Nothing else matters. If Chris Greer still has a job, you get rid of McDaniel, keep to it. It's all going to be the same. If Chris Greer is still there, we still won't win a fucking playoff game since the moment he's been there. There's a lot of football left. He stinks. It's before him, too. Does Chris Greer wear those high joggers, too, or no? No, he wears a hat with a suit. Looks super cool.

3:05:08Pat McAfee:It sounds like he looks cool, but it's just not turning out the way he envisioned it. A lot of football left, though. Don't give up. It is a lot of ball left. Right. It's kind of scary to think there's a lot of ball left at the same time. Yeah, but it's also kind of scary to know that we're deep into the season already, bro. I texted Connor last night. He's like, hey, we're in it, in it right now. We're in the season right now. We are deep in the season. There's about to be, like, maybe a little rookie wall that's about to hit, actually, with how we're in the season. when there's no light at the end of the tunnel, and they're deep in this entire thing.

3:05:37Pat McAfee:Senior year, last year of college, draft combine prep, right into spring, right into summer, right into training camp, right into an NFL preseason, right into NFL season. It's like we're getting into it right now. We're about to hit that. Like two weeks, it's going to be potentially something, unless they're mentally tough and warriors and ready for ball. You know who's a warrior? This guy who once absolutely saw down the Packers. It's from John's Antics. Seemingly got long hair. At J. Ben Colorado Springs. Heard great things. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But this Packers team could be in trouble.

3:06:13Pat McAfee:Coming out of a bye and we're barely scraping by the Bungles? Feels like they haven't had a complete game since week one. Let me know who still has them as Super Bowl favorites because I have a bridge in Arizona to sell them. There's no bridge. That's what he's saying, Ty. Do you feel the same way he does? We just came out of a bye. We're scraping by the Bungles. They got Joe Flacco. They're still an NFL team. There's always a chance they can win. Yeah, I mean, as a whole, you know, the Super Bowl favorites obviously feeling much different about this team than I did after week one when they beat the Lions.

3:06:44They just play to the level of their competition, which good teams typically don't do. Like, there's no reason that the Bengals should have, you know, hung around with them yesterday. They don't step on anybody's throats. They don't have any killer instinct. So, yeah, like, things can change, obviously. It's still early. they're technically first in the division. I was telling some of the guys earlier, you know, I personally, I don't know if a team who's ever tied is going to win a Super Bowl. I think that's maybe just like a football gods thing. They don't want that one in the tie column at the end of the season.

3:07:16For sure. But we'll see. It's just weird because one week the offense looks great and the defense looks like shite. And then the next week the defense looks like shite, but the offense is rolling. So it'd be nice if there was just a bit of consistency there, but we'll see. You know, things could be a lot worse. I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, are you really going to bitch that much about being 3-1-1 and being in first place right now? But that's the fun of it. Yeah, I am going to bitch because I think this team could win a Super Bowl. And as of right now, you know, I'm just not seeing it.

3:07:44Pat McAfee:Okay, what's a successful season? Winning the Super Bowl? What if they win a playoff game and then lose? No, I think you have to go to at least the NFC Championship this year. It's the Packers. It's the same deal. Jordan Love, he's getting paid over$50 million. You just paid Micah Parsons basically$50 million. Like in their heads, Micah Parsons was the piece that was missing. He was the piece that was going to be able to take them to the Super Bowl. So, yeah, you can't either – making the playoffs doesn't work. Like I expect them to win the division. And especially when you look at the NFC right now, like there are some teams that are – but going into the year, it was like, wow, how is anybody going to be able to compete with the Eagles?

3:08:20And clearly they look how they look. So, like the NFC is kind of wide open.

3:08:23Pat McAfee:What the hell is going on with the Eagles? We'll find out. Let's talk about the NFC's top dogs. This is from Jimmy Briggs. at GingerBriggs36. He's got a very light complexion in red hair. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But simply put, Baker's playing like an electrocuted Tasmanian devil out there. Call it now. Bucs are the Super Bowl champs. Give Baker the MVP and the keys to the city. Get our wide receivers room some Tylenol and watch the boys win out. Four wide receivers out. Two tackles out at the beginning of the season. They have yet to put out their best team and they're 4-1. Baker Mayfield has been outrageous, A.J.

3:08:58Hawk. He's been awesome. And they cut to the sidelines during this game. And you see Godwin and Mike Evans stand there in street clothes like, wow, this is unbelievable what they're able to do with so many guys hurt and so many superstars hurt. So, yeah, Baker, he's on a run right now. As long as Baker can stay healthy and keep this juice up, man, like why not Baker for the MVP and the Bucs to make a run at this thing?

3:09:19Pat McAfee:Incredible graphic here, Bone, honestly. Yeah. Yeah, Bone. You can tell that Bone really was excited about this one. There's some where he misses. Sure. But there's some where he really hits. Wow. And you got to go for it to hit. But if you go for it and you miss, it's obviously a bigger conversation. Bone had a good day. Yeah, Bone's doing well. The Colts one with the mirror and Peyton Manning and Marvin, that was pretty good too. Yeah, and Bone I think he's doing a little bit, maybe even night before prep. Okay, Bone. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Might be thinking ahead. It's crazy. Smart guy. Hey, Bone, we appreciate you, brother.

3:09:56Pat McAfee:Hey, Bone. Graphic department's good work over there, boys. You know, I told the WWE events were in the morning this weekend, so he didn't have to stay up late. On that note, the boys are watching us in Australia. They definitely aren't watching us now because I guess we've been on ESPN over there. They're watching us, the crew, camera crew. Oh, nice. Yeah, it had to be 3-8. Pretty late. They had to be doing it. you were 12 plus 2 so it would have been 14 hours so they texted me at 140 saying they were watching what's that 340 yeah I think the boys might have had one over there a little bit sounds like maybe they're having they've been over there a while now

3:10:36Adam Schefter:did you see what happened to the vision

3:10:38Pat McAfee:I heard man

3:10:39Adam Schefter:that was this morning right yeah what happened

3:10:44Pat McAfee:Seth freaking Rollins is not he might not be ever again. Sucks. Really? Yeah. Braun Breaker saw him in half. The Vision now split. Holy fuck. That's understandable. Crazy. Seth's got a kin. It's Braun Breaker. Oh, man. Her. Her. Her. Her. Her. Happened early this morning. Yeah. Safe travels back, everybody over there. That's right. Thank girls. Thank girls, yes, of course. Let's go to the next overreaction, Jake Roth. Hashtag, Speaking of girls, did you see Rhea over there? We saw her do a shoeie. Yeah, saw her do a shoeie. When she walks out there, the way that place, that has to feel so cool for her.

3:11:28Pat McAfee:Yeah. Like an entire country around. It's almost like an Olympic. It is like an Olympic sport whenever she walks out there. And boy, what an obsolete beast. And then Brunson Reed gets a win over Roman Reigns. That's bullshit. I agree. Well, Roman told us he was jet lagged. he's been jet lagged since he was over there. He said body a little bit sore. Was Ray Gunn there? Yes. I don't know if they did any of that. Did they do any of that? I don't know. They do a lot of gimmicks now with all this stuff on the ring. How many things from that Olympics do you remember outside of Ray Gunn? The sniper.

3:12:03The kid from here. Yeah, the gold medalist Chinese sniper, the woman, and the silver medalist. Cole Hawker. The Indianapolis. He did it. Oh, yes. Cole Hawker was a dog. Steph Curry hit a bunch of threes.

3:12:18Pat McAfee:Kevin Durant went crazy a couple different times. Tyrese Halliburton really kept the team together. Women's three-on-three team didn't win a game. True. They swam in that poop river. Oh, yeah. Sky Scheffler won a gold medal. Boom. And cried while they were doing the national anthem. That was so sick. Wow. They were all representing the country. Yeah, chills. And then also Reagan, right? Yeah. One of the top stories of the Olympics. Yeah, breakdance's debut. It's a good Olympics. It was a pretty good Olympic. Yeah, it was a good Olympic. I feel like the Olympics are only going to get better and better.

3:12:49Pat McAfee:Just in the content world that we're in, I think things are only going to get better and better. I think lacrosse genuinely will help a lot. Are they letting the native team exist? I'm not sure. And to be fair, it's a different game than the pro league, but I think their version of it is the NLL version, and I think it's going to do really well. So if there was a Canadian team, a United States of America team, and a native team, I think that would be good TV. Not that any of the other countries don't have good teams, but it's like I feel like that would draw a lot of interest, especially because of the sports beginnings, right?

3:13:22Pat McAfee:I mean, that's how it works. Yes, and any argument that's like, well, if we have a Native American team from North America, then there might be other Native American teams that want to play. And sure, that's valid, but the Native American team from North America will win the gold medal. So it's a little different than some of the other possible situations that the Olympic Committee might. The USA boys and the Canadian boys are like, hey, hey, hey. Let's not talk about that. Remember, some big things happened. Well, and they probably want, I'm sure Team USA and Team Canada wants the natives that are American.

3:13:53Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely.

3:13:54Pat McAfee:That's why they're like, let's not be pushing for this too much here. We need another gold medal. We will get worked out here. Also very excited for flag football and to see how many NFL guys play in that. And also our girls flag. I hope we dominate. And that one should be. Who's running USA football? Remember, we hated that. Didn't we hate USA football? Who was doing it? I don't know. Exactly. Yeah. Boom. It's not D-Bone, but D-Bone was contacted by USA Folk, which after watching his highlight, understandable. Especially with how good he was with his eye black. Road grader, man. He's a road grader for real.

3:14:27He looked good.

3:14:28Pat McAfee:And he's a Hardy brother with his eye black. Or a stink relative with how good his paint stays on his face. That was fourth quarter. I didn't see a smear. No. Not a single smudge. He was pulling. He was pulling all over everything. All right, last overreaction here from Jake Roth. At JakeRoth13. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But we can officially retire this sentence. Stefanski is a two-time coach of the year. This guy is a certified dipshit. Never in my life did I think I would rather watch that lunatic Ken Dorsey than what I'm currently watching. Brown's got a lot going on. Good luck over there, team.

3:15:02Pat McAfee:Good luck. Thank you to everybody who tweeted alongside of us. Thank you for watching today. We'll be back tomorrow reacting to the end of week six of the NFL. This evening as two games are played, the Bills and the Falcons, the Bears and the Commanders. AJ Hawk is on the Bills, minus 3.5. I am on the Falcons, plus 3.5, as is Darius Butler after he found out that Jeezy will be performing at halftime. And then Bears at Commanders on ABC, starting at 8.15 with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. AJ Hawk is on the Commanders, minus 5.5. I am on the Chicago Bears, plus 5.5. And D-Butt is on? Bears. Bears, plus 5.5 as well.

3:15:38Pat McAfee:Okay, me and you, D-Butt. Let's have a night tonight. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Shout out to Indiana getting a win. And shout out to Oregon for the hospitality. Place is beautiful. It was really nice. Dan Lanning took his shirt off. That was awesome. That was not. Neither of us had any idea that any of that was happening. Because Nick Saban gave the whole, why don't you fire these guys up a little bit? I'm like, oh, I didn't expect Saban to ask that question. I like that. And I think Dan felt obligated because Saban asked the question. Well, I got to do something that's fucking Saban.

3:16:06Pat McAfee:Got to do this entire thing. So he stands up. And then he looks at me and he says, well, you want to take that off? Because the jacket, he wanted us to potentially green, yellow out. because the whole whiteout thing that happened at Penn State. I'm like, sure, take jacket up. Then I see him saying, okay, we're going up on top of this thing. And then obviously if we're up there, yeah, whatever. Yeah, you got to do it. We got to take the shirt off here. Him doing that, awesome. The amount of ink he has, that had to hurt so bad. Very painful area, yeah. I have like one tiny little tat for my daughter here.

3:16:35Pat McAfee:He had that thing filled up completely for his wife, who we told her story last year about her battling, I believe, through some cancer and everything else with their beautiful family. It's like, Dan Lanning's a badass. I got nothing but respect for Oregon. I did say or imply that their baseball team wins a bunch of national championships. Oregon State fans told me that's not the case. They create MLB players that don't create national championships. That's what Oregon State does. I apologize to the Beavs for taking it away from you. But neither me nor Dan knew this was happening. They had no idea in the middle of it.

3:17:06Pat McAfee:Which is what makes a beautiful morning on game day and why we're incredibly lucky to be there. And, yeah, thank you, Oregon. That was a hell of a trip out there. Fun show. How about Kirk traveling? Mm-hmm. Crazy. Peter just sitting there. Dog. Actual. Mm-hmm. That was a green Jeep. It was. It was. D-bone driving that thing. Darren driving that thing. Kirk didn't trust him. He knew where he was going. Yeah, turning left here. Yeah, we're going in here. Come on, Darren. Jeez. I don't think he had Starlink on the flight, which was certainly a first question of mine when I heard we're doing this again.

3:17:41Pat McAfee:I was pretty pumped up about it. Hey, you got Starlink on that plane? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. You should know. Because if you have Starlink on that thing, it'd be clearer than whenever you're sitting on the set. That shit's outrageous. The plane Starlink is out of control. We had three quad boxes going on the way home. Totally crazy. That's so cool. That's how it should be. Better than the plane than it is down here. That's huge. Better. The Starlink Wi-Fi, I don't know what it is on Earth. D-Bud said it was shite. For me, that was a year and a half, maybe two years ago.

3:18:12Adam Schefter:Maybe they've upgraded.

3:18:13Pat McAfee:Maybe more satellites are sending up there. I don't know how it is on Earth down here, but on a plane, it is the greatest by far. As somebody that has been told by a flight attendant, whenever I asked about the Wi-Fi, can you reset it? We're on a plane. That is just very recent. I get it. We're on a plane. Wi-Fi in general is technology that's pretty insane. I think we all feel like it is wild that we're able to do any of the things that we're doing. I mean, look at this fucking plane. how is this thing flying from the Wright brothers to what we're doing now. With that being said, there is Wi-Fi that works on some of these planes.

3:18:44Pat McAfee:It feels like your plane doesn't work. So is there any way we can change that? I'll hit the reset, I guess, but once again. And then Starlink comes in and it's like, better Wi-Fi than you've experienced ever at your house. It's awesome. It's unbelievable. Game changer. Yeah. Absolutely. Game changer for life. It really is. So I can't wait to see how that goes throughout the season. Maybe you'll get a FaceTime, AJ, you know? If your Ohio State team slips up, which they don't look like they have a weakness. They are so good. Julian Sane, Saban gave us that. He's completely like 80 % of his passes.

3:19:16Pat McAfee:All we're talking about is Matt Patricia in the defense. It's like Julian Sane, new starter. He's better than everybody in the league. He throws a good ball. Which was the MO coming out of camp, right? Out of spring. It was like, hey, this guy can spin it, spin it. Yeah, he's got special release, arm talent. Yeah, he stands in the pocket. He's not scared to stare down the barrel and know he's going to get hit and deliver a nice ball over the middle yeah the guys i think he's awesome how come they didn't they left ducks on a pawn out there oh hey there was no ios you see that yeah i did it's all right i didn't know that when i came back and i was playing against the duck and tic-tac-toe that we were on tv i thought they were potentially doing that at the other end of the table talking to recent days i didn't know we were all on television at that point i should have been paying attention but obviously i was locked in as i got back up there uh saban and the duck were finishing up a tic-tac-toe game.

3:20:05Pat McAfee:And I can tell that Saban did not know how to play tic-tac-toe. Does that make sense? No, like he knew how to play. He didn't know the strategy. Yeah, he didn't know the game. He didn't know how. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't give it away. Yeah, listen, that's a good call. You need not give it away. He understands that it's three in a row, but he doesn't know that there is hook, line, and sinker to this fucking thing, Coach. And if we were to teach him one time, oh, of course. I'll see it now. So Saban beats the duck because duck is like kind of patronizing Coach Saban a little bit. Like I don't think Saban knew he was getting into a tic-tac-tac-tac game.

3:20:39Pat McAfee:And then the duck was kind of pointing at one basically for Coach Saban. So I immediately looked at the duck. And once again, I didn't know my shit was on. And I said, hey, I'm a good tic-tac-tac-tac player. And the duck goes, me too. Rips off a piece of paper. Here we go. We do this. I'm locked in completely. I assume Reese and Dez are sending this to something else. because that bison's up there too. The bison's up there. Good new mascot. Saban's standing there. He's jacked. Great mascot. Very, very jacked. That bison is very, very jacked. And then all of a sudden, boom, he blocked the first one.

3:21:12Pat McAfee:So he made the first move. I make first move. He goes to opposite corner. He knew what I was doing. So I had to go from my third move is now my second move. Had to set him up, get him somewhere else. Had to drag him into the deep end. Then all of a sudden, bang, now we're back, bitch. And it was, he thought he had it too. and then all of a sudden he looks at it again and he hands on his thing. And I go, yeah, duck. And I'm picking against you. Just because of this is what I told him. The duck is by far the most moxie. Good mascot. Out of any mascot. The most. There's one that you should probably be at this weekend.

3:21:49Pat McAfee:Blue, very good, I will say. Blue for the Colts, very good. What's the flopper, whopper? The one down in Atlanta? Blooper? Blooper. Connor's right there. He flies from the roof. The most athletic in BYU. The BYU. The Coug. Oh, yes. He jumped over flaming parallel bars the other weekend. He's pretty awesome. I love that that thing sends it. Yeah, it's so cool. Every single week. It's incredibly athletic. That would have been amazing to be at the Holy War. Utah, BYU. Yeah. One's 5-1, one's 6-0. You know, that entire state from what we got to experience a couple years back there. loves ball they would shut that shit down yeah georgia georgia's never had it though right georgia o 'le miss we haven't been to georgia yet this year oh which is what you were implying i think you cannot wait to get back down there obviously a lot of greatness has emanated from that campus down there in athens georgia and o 'le miss getting a chance to you know highlight and get to an o 'le miss game for the first time since i've been on the program is awesome and obviously both top 10 teams fresh out of what happened with georgia last week a lot of people saying he was clapping timeouts.

3:22:57Pat McAfee:I don't know. We'll see how that goes. But if we were to want to the Holy War, which can't wait to get down here for this. It's awesome. Anytime you get a chance to experience an SEC football experience, you do it. You definitely do it. Been down in Georgia before. But I think the Holy War, I wonder how much of a conversation it was. Yeah, I'm just pissed because the scenes are the biggest part in by far since you've been doing game day. The worst scene has been Georgia every time you've gone. But it's just one of those things where BYU you and Utah will both be 6-0 and 5-1 at some point in the future.

3:23:28For the next Holy War. 100 years.

3:23:29Adam Schefter:Yeah, for the next Holy War. You got Bailey Zimmerman and Luke Combs too. Yeah, it's big. Holy fuck.

3:23:34Pat McAfee:I love Luke and I love Bailey. I like both of them a lot. I think they got them on the schedule for this weekend, no matter where we were heading to. And obviously, Georgia, I assume, big Luke Combs and Bailey Zimmerman fans, which would have been sick. So, yeah, I'm pumped to get a little music in there, a little entertainment, have a good time. Athens, though, does have a lot of college game day experience. There's been a lot of game days there. A lot of game days there. I mean, I've been kicked out of a restaurant down there. Yeah, Carson's back dad spilled water all over my pants. And then he didn't say sorry, and he just gave Kirk Herbstreit a hat.

3:24:08Actually, he gave me a hat to give to Kirk Herbstreit. So that was fun. I'm a Georgia guy. I like the dogs. Uga is one of my favorite mascots in the whole entire world. Hotels weren't great either. I'll just pile on real quick.

3:24:23Pat McAfee:Oh, good point. Hotel bar closed at 11. I was like, oh, okay. I guess it's not good dogs around here. No, it is. You just got to go spend money and time. Go support the town. You're in here for a game. A lot of history there for football. Remember, a lot of history there for football. And this weekend, maybe be a part of it again. Yeah. Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss. That is awesome. Yes. Come into town. Kirby Smart, awesome. Yeah. Kirby Smart, awesome. Agreed. Football team, awesome. Game, huge. going to be great to be there. Locky to get down there. Who's that coming down a track? That's right. It's a main machine in red and black.

3:25:01Pat McAfee:I wonder how many times that's going to happen.

3:25:03Adam Schefter:Is that an early lead?

3:25:04Pat McAfee:What's that? On my pick? Don't you worry about my picks. I do happen to fancy one particular team over another team in this particular matchup. Doesn't mean that won't change on Saturday, even during the show. I will say. Okay. There are a couple picks that have been made where I am allowing the vibes decide how I think the game is going to go because I think you can get a sense of how everything feels, how the universe is in that moment. So I've switched before.

3:25:35Adam Schefter:Have you had one this year where you switched based on the vibes?

3:25:38Pat McAfee:Yes.

3:25:39Adam Schefter:Okay.

3:25:40Pat McAfee:Penn State. And let me tell you, that was 15 days ago. Yeah. And we're in a much different time now than we were then. And, yeah, life is crazy. College football is awesome. We'll be back tomorrow. AJ, good luck with your picks tonight, brother. Thank you. Thank you. I need you. We need you to hold it down for us in the NFL side of the things. Great work in the back, boys. All right, we got another episode of Rushmore on X coming out tomorrow morning. Bands. Greatest bands. Greatest bands, yeah. We got Rick Rubin and Jimmy Iovine on that thing. Obviously, Ari and Ben Persky will be the hosts. It is a good one.

3:26:14Pat McAfee:This is a – Jimmy Iovine is one of the funniest humans of all time. I don't know how many different things have been said about Jimmy Iovine. I think a lot negative. Guy's been around a long time. I think obviously he's done a lot of very positive things as well. But there's certainly, I think, negative stuff that has been said about him in the past. Once you watch these episodes that he's on, there's a couple music ones. You're going to think he's one of the funniest fucking people of all time. Jimmy Iovine throws absolute gas. Yeah, 110. 110. And Ruben, obviously, OG. It's like throughout the entirety of the episode, it's incredible.

3:26:47Pat McAfee:Well, this one's sick. And they even, there's a lot of learning about modern music tying back to even like the 70s music. And there's a band name that's mentioned on this thing tomorrow that you're going to never heard of. And then every song you listen to, you're just going to think of this fucking band and how they're not reaping the benefits of anything that they did. So it's a cool trip down memory lane. We're lucky to be a part of this. And the boys did a great job editing it, producing it, creating it. And then obviously Ari and Ben piecing that whole thing together. Way to go, boys. So that's tomorrow morning.

3:27:17Pat McAfee:Should be good. I think you learn a lot about music. If you like music, it's a great episode. If you don't like music, don't fucking watch. But if you don't like music and you're signing up to watch Greatest Bands, I don't need to hear your shit. Yeah, I don't know. I don't like music and I watched it and I thought it was great. Okay. There you go. Yeah, but you're being forced to say that because you're a sellout. Remember, that's what everybody said. That's also true. I do appreciate that. People are attacking us for promoting it. I see people, obviously, oh, he put it on a tweet. I was like, I'm very proud of the boys.

3:27:44Pat McAfee:This is the first time we've been given the opportunity to edit and create and do this entire thing. Producing the show. Yeah, the production company. It's like, I'm very proud. Doc worked his fucking ass off on this thing. Fucking ass off on this thing. And he still is. Yeah, right now, currently. Yeah, so it's like, I'm very proud of it. I think the boys have done a great job. It's a great show, though. Best guest lineup out of any show that's ever been created. Far none. Ever been created. And that's the Ari Emanuel difference, baby. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about bands. Who should I have on?

3:28:12Pat McAfee:how about jimmy ivy and rick rubin sure if you can get them all right i'll give you like three episodes okay sick uh i want to talk about like moguls and stuff who would you want to get fuck i'll just get elon i guess it's like jeff bezos yeah can you get steve jobs out of the fucking grave maybe get him in this yeah actually there's a hologram of him man it's actually giving some answers it's uh it's a crazy lineup the conversations are epic and we tried to keep it to a length where it is very easily digestible and tomorrow is banned, so hopefully you enjoy that. And we'll be back tomorrow overreacting to everything that happens tonight.

3:28:48Pat McAfee:Be a friend, tell a friend something nice, it might change your life, we're in this thing together. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.