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Podcast Episode Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1430
Episode Overview Title: PMS 2.0 1430 - Watt Wednesday, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk Description: In this episode, the team wraps up Week 6 of the NFL season, discusses standout performances from players and teams, and previews upcoming games. Key segments include AQ Shipley's analysis of the NFL's best offensive lines, Darius Butler's insights on defensive back play, and a college football preview with Stanford Steve.
Key Segments
- Watt Wednesday
- Guest: AQ Shipley
- Highlight: AQ outlines the top five offensive lines from Week 6.
- Discussion Points:
- The importance of the offensive line in modern football.
- Historical context of offensive line performance.
- Emphasis on the role of offensive lines in leading teams to victory.
- Everything DB with Darius Butler
- Defensive Highlights:
- Darius analyzes standout defensive back performances.
- Discusses the week-to-week variability in defensive statistics.
- Acknowledges criticisms of Pro Football Focus (PFF) around grading systems for players.
- Midseason College Football Playoff Graphic
- Presented by Tone Digs:
- Breakdown of Tone's midseason predictions for the college football playoff.
- Discussion about the significance of recent games and team performances.
- Key matchups and implications for rankings moving forward.
- NLCS Recap
- Discussion Points:
- Recap of the latest NLCS game where the Dodgers gained a commanding lead over the Brewers.
- Tied into discussions about team dynamics and playoff prospects.
- Guest Appearance
- Stanford Steve:
- Previews the upcoming college football slate, focusing on major matchups.
- Highlights the tension and excitement surrounding the game between Georgia and Ole Miss.
Highlights and Insights
Offensive Line Performance
- AQ Shipley presented the top offensive lines, emphasizing their importance in achieving success in the NFL. The discussion revolved around how successful offensive lines can significantly affect a team's performance in high-pressure situations.
Defensive Analysis
- Darius Butler provided a nuanced look at defensive back performances, noting the challenges of grading defenses and the impact of team dynamics on individual performances.
College Football Predictions
- Tone Digs shared his predictions for the college football playoff, highlighting teams expected to perform well and the implications of upcoming games. The discussion underscored the shifting landscape of college football rankings based on weekly performances.
Player Focus
- The episode featured discussions on several key players, including:
- Aiden Hutchinson: Recognized for his impactful plays.
- B. John Robinson: Highlighted as a significant offensive force.
- Quentin Nelson: Shown as an example of an elite offensive lineman.
Conclusion
- The episode concluded with a focus on the importance of teamwork, perseverance, and the excitement surrounding both NFL and college football. The interplay between statistics, player performances, and coaching strategies was a central theme throughout the discussions.
Upcoming Episodes and Guests
- Viewers were encouraged to tune in for future episodes and enjoy the team's dynamic discussions on sports news and analysis.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble-a-bole-bole. Oh, yeah. Hey, a lot of good segs today, okay? We got, you know, that seg that really makes you feel tough and gritty. We're going into trenches with a 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, player coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, AQ Shipley. What's up, boys? Okay, let's go into trenches, AQ. Who are the top five performing offensive lines coming out of week six? Who are the teams that have the big guys that are moving at a good pace? Who are the big guys that could maybe lead their team to another Super Bowl, just like the offensive line of the Philadelphia Eagles did last year?
0:57who has the best offensive line in the league are they the best team in the league because that's what you know we've learned from last year's study is if you have the best offensive line in the league you win the super bowl that's modern football you know it used to be uh punch them in a mock ground and pound rugby style football we uh we grew up on i'm 38 years old especially in the city of pittsburgh we all ought to ground and pound back and you know steel curtain comes around you think about that old school day then there was an innovation in offensive football where somebody was like, holy shit, I believe his name was Hal Mummey, actually.
1:28He said, we got everybody in here running faces into each other. We need to separate everybody and make them smaller and just make everybody fast. Then it started kind of spreading everything out. Football started becoming a fast man sport. Football started becoming less 250, 245-pound linebacker, more 225, 215-pound linebacker because they've got to go sideline to sideline, you see. And that captivated football, that captivated fantasy football, that changed rules of games. you started seeing tight ends become more and more dominant because the bodies were getting smaller in the middle of the field while they were changing rules so that there would be more offensive explosion because we want to see points.
2:01But now it feels like with all the small bodies on the defense, some offensive geniuses around the league say, listen, it's time to punch these little dudes in the mouth. Hell yeah. And ground and pound football is coming back with some wrinkles of the explosive football that we love from yesteryear. So football is in a great spot, but it feels like the trenches are more important than they've ever been in the outcome of games. And no offense can really go without a great offensive line. So we learn every single week about the top five from AQ Shipley. And this is the definitive top five. This is no bullshit.
2:33Nobody's arguing. This is what it is. Ain't that right, AQ? That's what you're hearing from the offensive line community, I'm sure. Absolutely. They love it. And listen, I just go by the tape. I just go by the tape. He's pretty biased, too. If he'll get a text from some team or a player, I love what you're doing on the trenches. Oh, maybe give them a shot. You guys were good last week. Yeah, you guys were good. Five? Five? I mean, it's not going to be in there. Check these DMs real quick. Yep, Raiders are in it this week. No, James. That can't be what this becomes. This is a very vital piece of information whenever we're gombling on games.
3:04Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Everything DB good, DB bad. He obviously cannot wait to watch. I didn't pay attention enough to the defenses. And I think that's kind of a common issue whenever football fans watch games is we're following the ball.
3:22Let's go to the next one. Hi, hand off. Where'd it go? Oh, he's out there. We're following the ball. We don't really know what the hell's going on the other side. You breaking them down for us has been a true gift to football brains and lovers, I think, personally. Today, do we have any embarrassing defense that we're going to display? How many good Ds do we have? And how many of that bad, limp-ass, bad-ass Ds do we have? We got four good Ds and two bad Ds. You always got to have two. But, you know, you got to take your medicine, see what happened. You know, we all did it in the film room, and then you go move forward.
3:53You learn from it. How are defenses performing this year? Oh, it's hard. It's kind of a week-to-week, just like with the matchups, week-to-week lead. Sometimes it's damn near 30 interceptions. Sometimes it's 15. You have forced fumbles. You have all types of different things that you can grade them by. But once I put a grade out and watch the tape, I move on. I don't go back and, you know. Yeah, see, there's a little slight shot from nine-year NFL vet right there to certain maybe grading systems out there. And that leads right into what I would like to talk about today because, boy, it is a hot topic, is it not, to talk to the table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.
4:29Stats from one particular company are coming under fire right now. Oh, man. Ty, now, there's been a select community that has been anti-PFF for a very long time. Okay, very vocal. Since the beginning of PFF, there's been people that say, nope, hate it, hate it, need to see a denominator. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Stats kind of taking over football is something that a lot of people hate. PFF became like the commercial face of stats taking over football. Because Collinsworth's, yeah, they're the Jordan brand of stats, PFF. The authority. Oh, you're saying the authority? Yeah. Okay, I would say also the Jordan brand.
5:02I think PFF kind of became the Jordan and the authority brand of stats commercial companies. Chris Collinsworth's Italian, obviously, and I assume it's a negotiated deal with NBC. Certainly. that they will be used during Sunday Night Football, which is obviously the most watched game every single week. So these PFF things become like the authority on the stats world. And there's been people that have hated that since very, very beginning. A lot of ex-players and current players hate these things. Now, this isn't the first time or first era of players hating ranking systems. I have been very open about my feelings with the Madden folks whenever I debuted on that particular game.
5:34And although I was not a Madden player, everybody around me were Madden players, and they couldn't wait to punt with me their first time. and then all I heard from everybody is how ass I was as a punter in Madden and in life. That's how people felt. And I said, I never met a Madden guy. Has this guy ever watched me kick? Has this guy ever watched me lift? My strength was like 14. I was watching myself just get my ass beat by people on this field. Try to throw a football. Strength, arm strength, went to nothing. I'm like, these Madden people have never seen me throw a football. I've been all-time quarterback in my neighborhood since I'm eight years old because I can go telephone pole to telephone pole.
6:04I'm pump, pass, and kick. World champion. I can spin this thing. You got my arm strength at 13. what the fuck do you know madden people make me look bad to my family okay that's just my story imprint that's just my story i'm a punter low-level punter think about all the other stories in which these pff grades have changed ways people's lives have gone madden has gone let on playing with yourself yeah getting bombed on by 14 year old in headset right on you bomb ass trash ass okay in real life though you literally just lock this person down so the rating and the number next to somebody okay always been a talking point whenever one becomes the authority over others and one becomes like a bible or like a most definite factoid for people there is always going to be detractors and ex-players have been attacking and coaches have been attacking spagnola defense coordinator for the chiefs i think two weeks ago came out and I said, I know PFF is going to say, and then buried it.
7:02Yeah. Chris Long, Super Bowl champion, hit a dinger of a, I'll say a PFF take on his most recent podcast. Get Mahomes quarterback 13 of 32 off my television screen. We're talking about legislation, what our kids shouldn't see at school, what they shouldn't be learning about. Like, should we have political ads on television? I want the PFF scores off the TV as bad as I want political ads off the television because like god forbid there's somebody watching the game who doesn't know who fucking Patrick Mahomes is right they're gonna be badly misguided brother 13th best quarterback in the league I mean if I was not Nandi and maybe he earned it this year but I would fucking sue I'd be in Chris Collinsworth's backyard dude you know what I'm saying I'd be at the window right what the fuck you can't do that dude you can't that's at the very beginning too like at At the very beginning, they're – hey, let's introduce you to these characters.
7:57Okay. Here's Nandi. 119 judged. He's the worst. Okay. And it's not like golf. You don't want to be the lowest. Okay. This is – he is by far the worst. Patrick Mahomes, middle of the pack. Okay. Just average. Just kind of middle of the pack here and go around. Then there's people that somehow there's like more than 32 starters, and they'll somehow put you in there and it'll be like ranked 27th out of 33 or something like that, or 33rd out of 30. It's like you're really burying these people on things that you might not know all the information. And I think that is why players hate it so bad. And coaches say, hey, I'm actually the one that told this one player on this one particular look to leave his person and go.
8:35It was our decision to do that strategy. You know, we're trying to mix it up a little bit. You can't imagine PFF trying to judge Troy Palmolo. Yeah. Troy Palmolo had no rules. He's everywhere all the time. So PFF would just have to say, well, he's actually cover three here. So he's supposed to get this deep third. And he left his deep third. So that's actually a downfall. He does get the sack where he jumps over an offensive lineman. But his actual job on the play was to be deep third. So he kind of, they could have got bombed on if he didn't jump up. It's like those types of conversations being able to exist just completely defeat your argument that your rankings are definitive.
9:12And the fact that it gets showed in the biggest game, I like the players and everybody's starting to kind of stick up for it. And there's always been a little anti-PFF out there. Oh, yeah. There's always been a little. And I was PFF punter of the decade. That's right. Congratulations. And we celebrated that. I still got the sweatshirt. They sent us hoodies. Yeah. I put the hoodie on. I was pumped about it. Now, I would argue in PFF's case, punting is probably a pretty straightforward one on who's doing good, who's not doing good. So let's make sure we take PFF serious whenever it comes to punting because that benefits me.
9:42Now, not benefiting anybody else in this particular world. Then there's situations that brew like, you know, T.J. Watt and Myles Garrett this weekend. So, obviously, T.J. Watt, Myles Garrett, defensive MVP battles. AFC North. There is real tension here between the two of them on who's the GOAT. Not only in the NFL, but just the AFC North. And Cleveland and Pittsburgh, obviously, historic rivalry of cities and towns. And this is AFC North football getting to the quarterback. Big tough guys that lead their team. One guy sets the market for the other guy. One guy sets the pace for the other guy. These two have been battling.
10:12And PFF has seemingly always kind of leaned towards Miles Garrett. Certainly. TJ Watt has a lot of stats, which we thought they loved with stats, that would indicate that TJ Watt is on a historic run and we should maybe give this guy a little bit more credit. But what PFF says is we're not just looking at stats, even though we are stats people. We're looking at the game. We're not looking at the outcome of the play. We're looking at what's actually happening on the field. You guys watch highlights. We watch film. Here's PFF explaining how Miles Garrett, Obviously a loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, who seemingly statistically-wise had much less of a performance than T.J.
10:48Watt did, but still outperformed T.J. Watt, and then they dropped the points later after second eval. But here's PFF guy on the right describing everything about how they got to that score. And they saw that Myles Garrett's grade was ahead of T.J. Watt, and they weren't very happy about it, and they wondered how Myles Garrett was able to get that high of a grade while only having one pressure. Those are the preliminary grades, and we go over the grades. We comb over it. We have our rechecks and everything. And so those are the final grades that we showed you right there. But I do want to say, like, Garrett still had a really good game in this game.
11:19His passers win percentage was still pretty dang high. He was still a force to be reckoned with in this game. The fact of the matter is the Steelers had a fantastic game plan for him. They constantly had different looks with tight ends being able to be on his side of the line of scrimmage and chip him and all that kinds of stuff. The offensive line, I thought, played really well in mitigating exactly where Miles Garrett could go and how he could impact the game. If they were running the football, a lot of times they weren't running it at Miles Garrett. They were making him get beyond a chip or beyond the offensive tackle just to chase the running back from behind, and a lot of times he couldn't do it.
11:52And to be honest with you, part of this great Aaron Rodgers game, which I'm going to get to more in a second. Yes, please. Rodgers is the perfect quarterback to mitigate a guy like Miles Garrett. Taking my ears out. He's getting the ball out of his hands quickly. he's not dumb he knows miles garrett is to his blind side and he knows how to just get around that and so i thought it was an excellent job from the pittsburgh steelers game planning around miles garrett to make him a non-factor in this game that didn't mean that miles garrett did not have a good game i thought he was a presence he was impactful he was still winning a lot of his assignments but by the time he was able to win versus a tight end and versus an offensive tackle that ball's gone yep and Aaron Rodgers knew that and so it was just a hat tip to what the Steelers were able to do I think from a philosophical standpoint going into this game to neutralize a great talent like Myles Garrett so hats off to what Pittsburgh was able to do PFF guy on the right says this was actually a compliment to the Pittsburgh Steelers because of how good of a game miles garrett had he didn't have much of an impact now if that's going to be the story for all of your rankings in your ratings that needs to be explained on the pff rankings on sunday night football certainly hey these are actually uh rankings off of thinking how good of another team actually did against how you actually did for your assignment now what is your assignment we're kind of guessing here we think that your assignment is to do this on every single play i appreciate the fact that he said miles garrett had a good game pittsburgh steelers just out out scheme this guy now again there's swats and jumps and other ways you can affect if you're not getting home because of how quick it is and there's different ways to affect the game and getting to the quarterback is a part of it stopping the run is obviously a part of it but it's like all these little qualifiers that they have i don't think the general public knows so whenever you're putting the ranking system up i think maybe we should put a follow-up graphic that also explains everything he just said there okay pff got it right i think he nailed it okay and i it does make sense with what he said whenever you hear him say how he said it it It just doesn't make sense that you guys are giving actual rankings without everybody understanding it.
13:52It's just a compliment to the offense as opposed to a slight against T.J. Watt. Yeah, I mean, it's just tough. Whenever you put a grade, like you said, whenever you put a grade on something, it's tough. The only people that can truly grade it are like the coaches and the players, like position coaches, coordinators, because they know exactly what's going into it. And I kind of understood what he was saying. It's kind of like a Revis-type guy. If he just locks down one side of the field and you can say, oh, he didn't have any PBUs or any tackles or any interceptions. He didn't impact. Oh, this guy had one interception.
14:20And you could say, okay, this guy impacted the game more. But, yeah, it kind of put my mind in the pretzels. I mean, just a great job. Keep doing your thing. PFF, I think it is a good tool. I think it is a good tool. You could definitely use it along with watching the tape and watching the games and doing shit like this. But it's a time and a place for it. Sunday night football, I understand the business relationship there with Chris Collinsworth. but yeah, you can't have it. I agree with Chris Long with his sentiment. Take it off my screen. That was awesome. Chris Long really laid it out perfectly.
14:55God forbid somebody's never seen the game before. Patrick Mahomes, this is the best player. This is our guy right now. Hey, the guy who eats ketchup in the middle of Kansas City, seemingly nice to everybody. He's a hardworking guy. And oh yeah, he's already in the GOAT conversation. He's not even 30 years old. Let's try to make him look good at the beginning of our biggest show every single weekend. Instead, somebody seeing that he's just middle of the pack in the NFL. That's a funny way for Chris Long. Chris Long saw that and was just disgusted. I would like to know what they did to Chris Long.
15:24I assume there is a deep-seated either Chris Long story of a ranking or somebody that's very close to him ranking. I mean, he comes from a football family, obviously, the long football dynasty. But I appreciate that everybody's kind of spinning against it right now. Well, and I think a big issue, like whether people wanted – like stats is such a big part of like the NFL and people who aren't in the NFL that want to talk about it now that maybe it wasn't 10 years ago. But think of like all the, how this affects like legacies. Like we were talking about, you know, an agent or like a team bringing this up in, you know, like a negotiation.
15:58It's like, well, you know, PFF has you as the 119th of 119th tackle. But in terms of like MVP votes and stuff like that, like there are a lot of people out there who are very like analytics driven and the NFL is kind of already co-signed on this stuff. It's on Sunday Night Football. So there are definitely people who look at this stuff and it's like, okay, well, defensive player of the year, look how many weeks Miles Garrett had a 92 rating or higher. So it's like whether you like it or not, this stuff is absolutely also influencing all pro votes. Contracts, everything, legacies, life, day-to-day life for people.
16:37I mean, it does affect a lot of things. Once again, for the punting rankings, I think they're pretty spot on, just if I had to guess. Pretty straightforward. They watch every snap. Pretty straightforward. It used to be, I thought the angle was to it, it used to be scouts, like old scouts watching film that didn't want to wait to either become general managers. They found something that was good for them in the media lane, which was like how you would evaluate and how you would judge tape and score tape and things like that. It's like PFF guy on the right there. Was he, because the guy on the left, I don't think I knew him either.
17:05Is it Trevor Stickema? Trevor, yep. Yeah. Okay, was he a scout or something? I'm not sure. I don't believe so. Okay, so that used to be the thing, right? PFF had old scouts that would come in there. I think that was like the big selling point. So I think for a lot of football fans, NFL fans, it's like, hey, these are the actual people that were doing the judging of things. So if this is how this is going to go, this is how it's going to go. And A.J. Hawk has texted us, you don't win assignments in football. That's what he just said. So he's picking apart that particular answer. But that's always going to happen with stats people and football people.
17:34A.Q., offensive line, I couldn't even imagine. what a winning assignment looks like and what a losing assignment looks like. And I would assume PFF had you as a loser a lot, if I had to guess. Surprisingly, they actually had me winning quite often. Okay, so they're pretty good at judging centers. I was a technique guy, so it was kind of easy. But to go to your point, if anybody's using that as a tool while they're watching film, they're a dipshit. I don't know what else to say about that. They are. But here's what I will say, too. But there's a lot of those people. There is a lot of those people.
18:03And then coaches also use this to justify their job. I'm telling you. I've seen it. What a coach will do, we'll come in after the game and be like, hey, the tackle's just getting – I mean, he's getting run around all game. He's giving up pressure, giving up sacks. And then they'll be like, hey, this is how I can justify my job. Well, PFF had him at an 85 pass protection rate. See, that's what we're talking about. It's infiltrated. But that's where you go use it. So, like, say, like, hey, I want to go and watch all the – it's like we used to do cut-ups, cover three, single high, or match zones or split safety fire zones, and I could just watch that.
18:34Like, that'll help me. I don't have to go and watch every play. Hey, I just watch these two zones. I just watch simulated pressure. I just watch that. And that can help you from that standpoint. Or like a quarterback, where's his heat map? Where does he like to throw the ball? Does he like between the seams? Does he stay away from the middle of the field? Does he like the sidelines? So, like, it can help you kind of cut down the time part of it, but you got to still be able to watch the film. And the stuff we do, like the breakdown stuff, well, it's probably a little different with O-line, but as far as secondaries, like, it's only so many coverages.
19:04and based off my experience, okay, it's a cover for it, they're trying to do it here. You say that every time you break my head. Yeah, but I can't say 1 ,000 % unless I shoot a text or I call somebody, hey, you have that conversation and you go back and forth, but things change so much and even the coverages that we know or the past protections that you know inside and out can be massaged between fucking series. So it's always moving parts. So whenever anyone can get on TV and say, this is what it is without a shadow of a doubt, blah, blah, 99 % of the time they're probably wrong. Well, the duo play that we talk about, I talk about it all the time.
19:36It's double team, double team, double team. Well, if I don't have a double team on the backside and I have a backside nose guard, but the play's being run to the right, I want to lose with this guy getting up the field away from the play. But PFF might look at that and say, oh, he got beat. His guy's five yards in the backfield. Well, good. I took him out of the play. I want to ride him five yards up the field, right? So that's where the ex-scouts being in there would allegedly make up for that. And I don't know if that's still the thing. I don't think it is. And even with them in there, like for quarters, for example, if we play quarters and say, all right, we're going to trap this one.
20:11Like third and eight, they like to run out from number two and over the top. So, hey, I'm going to trap two. So, I'm going to jump two. If you're a PFF, you just watch me jump two and I drop number one. But my safety is not on the same page. He doesn't get over top of number one. That's a blown assignment for the cornerback when in reality, they go to the sideline and the DB coach is going to be like, hey, what happened? This is the conversation that was had. This is what actually happened. So it's just so much that goes on. You never really know unless, you know, you watch the tape. And a lot of times people reach out and say, this is what happened or this is what the coach told me.
20:43So being, you know, plugged in, I'm sure these guys are plugged in somewhat to people in the buildings as well. I don't know how much the players, but I'm sure they can make it. They say coaches are good. Because these people are infiltrating the buildings and the system, all right? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a huge fan. And I think he uses it every single day as well to grow his brain and maybe even his brand as a football analysis giver. He's obviously got the brute strength and he's obviously very handsome. But with the help of PFF, he's built his stats game to a level where now he's calling games every Sunday.
21:18Nice. Ladies and gentlemen, future first ballot Hall of Famer. One of the only members of the Bull Ring of Honor down there for the Houston Texans. Former Walter Payton Man of the Year whenever he raised ass. All the money for the city of Houston. Burnley owner, Espanol owner, J.J. Watt. Yay! If you could please elaborate on your PFF usage and thoughts, especially fresh out of a week where your brother got a lower ranking than Miles Garrett in a battle, you know, in which there's a lot of legacy, a lot of conversation, a lot of tension, a lot of rivalry, a lot of everything between those two. so if you could break it down your angle now we we haven't left a lot of meat on the bone with the things that we have said about pff from a player's perspective now jage i'm sure you have some ideas on what maybe hasn't been mentioned this entire argument but you have been an open hey we can't be putting the rankings on tv this is not a how this goes guy for a while now many other people are feeling empowered to maybe uh say it as well or why do you think there is a little bit of a groundswell right now where people are going we got to change how this goes if this is how it's going to continue to go uh well i think first things first that that conversation in the tj miles conversation people want to take that and turn it into something different this is i've had my issues with pff for a very long time oh yeah i was their number one rated player i had over a hundred score while i was playing they had to change the system they literally came to me and told me we had to change our system because of how you did it so this isn't a guy who had bad grades who's disgruntled.
22:49I literally was their number one guy and I still hate it. I have to start with this. PFF has a lot of very beneficial tools. They have things, D-Bott was just talking about it. They have things where you can break down plays by coverages, where you can cut down the film to, I just want to see runs to the right side under five yards. They have all this really good stuff that you can use. The number one issue with PFF by far, bar none, hands down, is their player grading system and the fact that they project it everywhere, including nationally televised games on Sunday night where everybody's watching.
23:30And they make it underneath the rankings where it states as fact 91st out of 97th defensive tackles 117 out of 117 offensive guard and that is a completely made up number that is not like the coaches around the league and the players around the league that is a guy or guys in the back room i'm gonna i'm gonna get hot i'm gonna off. Keep going. Keep going, Dave. Love it. This is how you summon some change. You've got to get passionate. Personal stories of Uber drivers telling NFL passengers that they break down film for PFS and that they watch the TV copy only and put a grade out after the game.
24:22That Uber driver's true. You can't watch film on the TV copy and create a grade. You can't break down a person's grade and know what they're supposed to do if you don't know their exact assignment. Like D. Butt just said, I know defensive line play unbelievably well. I could not go and grade a game for a player and give him a definitive grade without speaking to him, his coach, the scheme, everything. It's just a fact. PFF has a ton of great stuff. Player grading sucks. Stop putting it out. Hell yeah! Atta boy, Jage. Well done, Jage. Well done, Jage. Jage. Jage. Jage. Jage. He broke the system.
25:07He did. This guy broke the system. And now he's raging against it, you know? And he's saying, hey, this ain't right. You guys might have liked me, but I got teammates that you were misjudging in this entire thing. And Jage, I think that's right. We talked about this too. Like, when PFF was trying to make, like, a name for itself in the stats world, because there's a lot of stats coming. stats stats stats stats stats stats stats stats stats everywhere they were coming we're coming for your sport bro we got a whole new area to do it and i think i would like to say as football guys and football people we're pretty open to it i think you know i think we were pretty open to the stats at the beginning we're saying a lot of it was bullshit but listen there's some very beneficial things i think this is good stuff whenever the coaches started making only their decisions for this entire thing and changing it all i think we you know kind of started judging them a little bit more harshly for not having a feel or a gut feel or an instinct or anything like that but pff became the one because of the i don't want to say the hot takes but basically the hot takes i think they're at the stage now where they don't have to do that anymore right which is kind of what you're saying like hey you got a lot of other good shit that would be a sustainable business i think for a lot of football people i think you guys have found what you guys could be and and could be a real asset for so just doing the trolling holier than thou we know everything shit is just stupid at this stage i think is what you're saying a lot of us are saying right i think you were even saying earlier it's like you have actual you have great benefits for the football world within what you guys have especially with all the information that you've garnered with the platform that you have with where you're at so it's like let's go ahead and utilize that let's make football better team on me yes jage any final thoughts here this This is kind of your thing here.
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26:47This is kind of your run. I'll hold my tongue. They do good stuff. Just stop doing your fucking player grades, man. Hell yeah. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. All right, let's move along. Other things that need to stop. We need to have great turf everywhere. Football's happening. Okay? I can't take it anymore. We're in 2025. We got super scientists. I watch how high, how long ago? They were growing tree in their dorm room. This one will make you smarter. This one will make you happier. This one will do this. The green thumbs of people these days, okay, higher than it's ever been. They're growing everything everywhere.
27:25And somehow we can't get good turf in these NFL stadiums. Now, obviously there are some places that are fantastic. Pittsburgh, the artist formerly known as Heinz Field. Now, Akersher has been notoriously terrible with obviously stories of them spray painting dirt and mud green so that on TV it appears as if it is grass, but it's even worse. Then a situation like this happens with one of the best kickers in the history of the NFL, one of the most surefire kickers in the NFL. He's on your team, and obviously the entire turf rolls up on top of his foot. Could have rolled his ankle, could have sprained it instead.
28:01Akersher Field said, don't worry about it. You won't roll it because you have to get stuck. We're just going to slide right underneath the ball. Obviously he doesn't hit a clean ball there. So whenever you see this type of shit, Jage, what are your thoughts? I don't know where you were on the hashtag change the turf. Is that what it was? I don't remember what the hashtag was whenever it was like turf versus grass. You've been on the record saying to us like, hey, I've gone to some of these soccer games where they put the grass on top of the turf. That shit's not the greatest either. What are your thoughts on what's going on in Pittsburgh?
28:26And what are your thoughts on the turf thing kind of as a whole in the NFL that kind of we revisit every, I don't know, 15 months or so? Yeah, I mean, my first thought, because you could tell that this field was deteriorating throughout the course of the game. We were there, we were calling the game, and you could tell, and we had stuff ready because we thought that something might happen like this, just witnessing it. And my first thought was, well, this is an anti-turf or anti-natural grass argument because you obviously have the whole turf argument going. But I also know that the Steelers, they had already planned to switch the field out after this game.
29:03I think they switch it out three times throughout the season. But I think Tones touched on it before, many people have. this is what happens when you have natural grass that far north and you have pit playing on it in addition to the Steelers playing on it I completely understand that the Steelers don't own the field and everything but like this is a multi multi-billion dollar business here and these are the assets of the business and I understand everything that goes into everything but that had a chance to hyper extend his knee in a very bad way we saw Myles Kilboer go down earlier you don't know if that's directly correlated to that or not but i at the end of the day i think players still would prefer that their foot slide like that to give them a chance versus the turf where it gets stuck um but that that field was really really bad and it's very rare you see players like aaron rogers and cam hayward come out and just blast their own home field the way that they did after the game see aaron rogers obviously knew they're thinking to himself probably with how high he has held the pittsburgh steelers in his mind so the way aaron has always talked about the steelers pittsburgh everything has always been like in very high regards like mccarthy being his coach in green bay and mccarthy still yeah he's got pictures of greenfield behind him in his office like aaron knows pittsburgh's been around pittsburgh has always held the steelers in high regards afc green bay packers is basically how he's always talked about the steelers so i assume whenever he gets on that field and it's like that he's like this is not yeah this is not like what lambo's immaculate yeah this is yeah like he's probably mind blown i think but also saying like this is not how it's supposed to be you guys are like the this is the franchise this is not how this is supposed to go and i saw a lot of people tone digs included talk about the pit field and ben roethlisberger said on football and the same exact thing he said they need to build like a 35 000 stadium uh a person stadium in oakland a little bit gonna be tough to find that room i think in the city it's gonna be difficult to do that but a lot of people have been saying get pit their own stadium even though the city owns it and then a lot of pit people are saying we didn't have a game for like eight days before that.
31:05So what are we? What do we do? We don't even play in there. Let's go to Hammer. Todd, Todd. Tone, you've been taking it on the shins pretty good. I think a 48-year-old in Robinson went after you pretty good. And then obviously that spurred some other conversations around Pittsburgh. But then Ben Roethlisberger comes out and kind of echoes your sentiment. You're not the only one. How do you feel right now about what is possible for the future of the city of Pittsburgh with their stadium set up? And how are the shins after the 15 ,000, 20 ,000 people that go to every game took out their broomsticks and hit you on the shins?
31:40Yeah, I fired off that original tweet that Foxy put up in the moment there. And Pitt has always been the easy target as far as firing shots at the field. Yes, I know they lease it with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Neither of those places own it. And then I did fire off some other tweets after that, after I started getting attacked because I am not really good at, you know, just letting it go and not going cutthroat at places. So, yeah, they got upset. The shins took it quite a bit. That's fine. That's going to happen or whatever. All I want is, like, yes, I know it's north of the Mason-Dixon line and they share it together.
32:16But, like, there's other places that share fields with college football teams. I believe the Eagles do it and others. And their grasp is fine. I'm really just frustrated. Like, figure it out. because if Boz would have got hurt there, that's an absolute disaster. And in that city, I just hope everyone realizes what the pecking order is, and it's Pittsburgh Steelers, and then it's everybody else. So if it's going to help the Pittsburgh Steelers, yeah, I think you should only play Steelers games. On that note, I think some Pitt fans really turned heel thinking that they were more important than the Steelers on the Internet.
32:48I saw some of that. So they kind of worked themselves into a shoot, brother. So they kind of went into a circle. but I think all we all want is just a perfect setting and environment for great football. Is this not the NFL? Is this not the highest level? It's pinnacle. You're talking about Boswell getting hurt. TJ's making$40-some million a year. Miles Garrett's making$40-some million a year. Aaron Rodgers' first ballot Hall of Famer. If any of those guys get hurt because of the bullshit, that story is obviously magnified. Boswell having that happen, it's a kicker. That's one of the greatest of all time right there.
33:19That kicker, Boswell, is one of the greatest ones. There weren't people putting Pitt up ahead of the Steelers. They were acting like it, bro. They were acting like it. I've turned down a few pit games in my day and seen those yellow seats. Screaming. They're screaming at you through the screen. Nothing wrong with the good program. Good program. Great history. I've turned on those games, and I've seen the yellow seats. Yeah, you can hear the yellow seats with your eyes because it's in the quad box, and it's just like the whole thing. I've heard people even describe it as those yellow seats are spitting through the screen because they're so loud.
33:53Like, if it was black seats or something like that or blue seats, I think it would just kind of blend in. The fact that it's yellow, it's like we see everyone. Like, we see it all. And I'm not saying that Pitt doesn't have their diehard fans of the University of Pittsburgh. I think people would die for the University of Pittsburgh. There is Pitt. There are those types of people. Now, I do think not a lot of them have the opportunity to go to the football games, though, because we all, just like Jade said, we all have eyes. We watch the game. But now, if that field's perfect, nobody cares about anything.
34:22So let's figure out the grass. Let's figure out the grass. Why doesn't your dad go down there and figure out the grass? How's he on a lawnmower? He's got a Z-turn downer. We got to make this thing go ahead and tie in. He should because he hates Pitt as much as he loves the Steelers. Let's go to the next conversation. Speaking of injuries, I don't know what I'm talking about. We had four very serious injuries in the Indianapolis Colts game, including a neck on a special teams return where I believe the guy got released from the hospital later in the night. So we're very thankful for that. That was scary in real time.
34:53But obviously, Mooney getting hurt in a pregame warm-up. Anthony Richardson gets hurt doing a band exercise. And then Marvin Harrison got concussed right in front. I mean, it was – there's a lot of interest. What are you guys doing pregame in Indianapolis? What is going on pregame in Indianapolis? That's a good question. We don't know. We're winning. I know that. But I think we should dial it back a little bit because we can still win without losing guys in a pregame warm-up as they're running a little snake. Oh, my God. Too long, Dan. It looked like he put a shoulder into him. I don't really understand that right there.
35:26No, he was in the middle of doing his thing. I tried to avoid him last night. He was doing his thing. Our team's tight, bro. Don't think about that. Don't talk about that. He felt terrible about his wall. He tried to scoot out of the way. He slid his butt a little bit out to the side. I got the Colts this weekend. I'm going to be watching those pregame warm-ups close. You're going to see what's going on. Thanks for keeping an eye on it, J.H. We need you to do that. We need you to keep an eye on it. On the pre-game warm-ups for you. On that note, what was your routine? Did you do pre-pre workout warm-up?
35:59Yeah, I did the pre-pre, but I did it way too hard early in my career. So I learned to back the pre-pre down and ramp up the pre. You were doing so. You do the pre-pre, you get too excited. Do you remember when he became in the pre-pre? J.J. Watts playing catch with every kid in the city. Yep. Do you remember that? When did you start doing it? Did you do that to save yourself from running all over the field? So you didn't wear yourself out there? Like, I need to do something, but I can't just run my life away here on the field. Is that how that started? How did you start that? It actually was a nice little warm-up.
36:32But, no, I started because – so I grew up in Wisconsin, Green Bay Packers fan growing up. And I went to training camp one time, literally one time. They have open training camp. And I remember going to the players' parking lot after and standing outside the fence. And I had literally a white T-shirt. and I threw it over and hoping somebody signed it. Didn't even know who it was, probably a practice squad guy or somebody. Signed it and threw it back to me and I was like, that was the coolest thing of all time. And so in the NFL, I always try to find like that thing where some kid is going to a game for the first time ever and is going to have a memory of that day.
37:08How can you make that memory a special one? But you have to keep it rolling. I couldn't sign autographs for everybody before the game, so I was like, I'll play catch. like it takes one second for each person and i can hit a shitload of people as i go around the stadium so i just make one quick laugh before i went in and played catch with as many kids as possible i thought it was good for the game what you did i thought it was good for the game and i like the fact that in every city they were catching it and throwing it back to you you know like some of those places you throw it into the stands and they hate you they're taking that thing throwing it backwards backwards backwards you know so the fact that they didn't do that i think that was the tip of the cap to you as a person but that pre pre workout that you were talking about losing your mind during it's organized chaos out there i don't know how more injuries don't happen after seeing this and it was uh right my mom actually had eyes on it my mom was already at the game and she sent a text to the group and then or to me and then d bone was at the game as well sent a picture and my mom was like somebody just got really hurt like really hurt in warm-ups or whatever and it was like how it's two hours how is there anything happening and we learned it's one of our guys and guess what happens jj dbs because you're going backwards and those like the punt returners where they're like you don't know where that ball's going you don't know what's going on like those are the two to me that are the ones that have the biggest chance of getting hurt and clearly here was about d but did you did you participate in this did you have to like clear out 30 yards of space yeah you just kind of know uh and the person throwing the ball to you is kind of responsible too in my opinion because they're leading you either right or left but you usually take a peek back you're not just out there just blind um depending on what time you know depending on if it's home or away you will have you know the time and you will go out there and warm up but you knew your kind of area of the field that will be safe this is it looks like oak tree was kind of coming kind of out of nowhere off the sideline but once again like those i don't know if they're coaches or trainers or or what they were but they are they got to be responsible too because you don't want guys getting hurt and warm up just like in practice practice when shit's on the sidelines It's like, you know, that one time, you know, first, second day of training camp is maybe a loose helmet or a loose pad on the sideline, and everybody just kind of stops like, fuck is going on now?
39:17So it's the same thing with pregame. You can't let, you know, your big-time corner get hurt pregame. And there's no, like, designated places for people, but there's, like, unwritten rules. It's, like, an interesting – it's a very interesting dynamic. And all I know is kickers and punters, we are lowest on the pecking order. So if we find some space, we definitely use it, okay? If you're Justin Tucker and Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes coming around, you just go ahead and get those balls away from their feet. Because guess what? Go for the entire fucking league here not to have these guys get hurt on your kicking balls beforehand.
39:47Just like that to be known. That's where kickers, punters stand from. But we need that. That's when we need that field. Were you ever the guy that went out in between the cheerleaders was practicing right before the kickoff or after halftime? No, I thought if you got in the middle of there, okay, you were really trying to work on something. For me, I thought mentally we could get some work done on the side. Definitely hitting while things are happening, though, at the halftime show. There was some preseason game where it had to be – I was punting in it. I forget what year it was. But the other team's backup punter, okay, because you've got preseason backup punters.
40:25Oh, yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah. Guy, I think he hit somebody that was in the – The halftime show. In the thing, yeah. I got called in, asked about if I saw what happened, yada, yada, yada. Oh, no. I was like, I did see what happened, yeah. Who called you in? Because it was at our stadium, and the email that got sent was from a parent. It was like a band contest or something happening in the city or something. High school band deal. Yeah, it was like a big deal. And the person that sent in the email talked about how hard everybody on that band field worked to get to that moment. and everything that was put into that and the sacrifice, like really laid it in.
41:06I mean, it was, I was told to read it. Why did I get this? Is what I was told. And I was like, oh, I saw it. Yeah, it was not good. It was a shank completely. Because in those moments, can't be shanking into the, because if you're kicking, you know, like I've done a punt, you know, halftime show, big halftime show. And it's like, you're really rolling the dice every time. You know, it's like, that's real pressure there. Let's see if we got, just got out of the fucking locker room. A little chilly here. Gallery. Got a$100 million artist right here. Okay, let's not hit a shank left right now and just take somebody off the thing.
41:38But you got to get your work in, too. Like, I'm trying to do my job, too. Like, I got to do my shit. You actually broke my finger pregame. I just remembered. Well, that's on you, brother. That ball was coming down from the clouds. He's listening. He's zooming right there. What, that's me? Oh, no. Yeah, that's you. No. Nope. What happened? Middle finger, too? That's a good one. If I was getting any of them, I'm happy. Somebody back up. punt return either went down or was inactive. So Mitch's dad came up to me and was like, hey, gonna need you today. Just back up punt return. You know, if you've done it, no.
42:10Can't return it. But sure, I got out there and catch a couple. Yeah, go catch a couple from Pat. Bop! My God. Then went in there and had to just splint it before the game. It was tough, man. I think it was before Rams. The game they killed us? Yeah. Oh, man. That might have been Did you have the halftime military? Yeah. Yeah, that was a rough one. Yeah, that was a rough day. Chris Long. I was bombing the ball, though, man. That one, Tavon Austin took one back in 98 that game. That was a perfect punt, just Tavon Austin takes it to the crib. I bet karma for breaking my finger. You broke your finger.
42:42Yeah. I didn't break your finger. That's on you, brother. That's you. You think you were top six, probably, right? Hands on the team? I was two. Two? Two and three. Yeah, right. We had Reggie. Go on. Then probably me and T.Y. Then you were probably four, five. Oh, okay. J.J., you know what that's. J.J., okay, Shane Leckler, hands on the team. What do you think his hands were? You think they were top three, top five? No, no, no. Catches the ball every time he goes on the field. Every single time he goes on the field, he catches the ball. Yeah. We had John Weeks tossing it back there. It was put exactly where he wanted.
43:20The lace was right where he wanted every single time. Weeks, he was an animal. Weeks, he's this tall. Weeks, he is... Still playing San Fran, right? Still doing it. Yeah. Out there in San Fran. Maybe, what, 20? How many years is this? It's got to be... It's a lot. Jeez. He was unbelievable. Incredible. So small. I cannot believe that those guys can snap the ball 14 yards and still decide how many rotations to get the laces up. That blows my mind. That's unbelievable if Weeks can do that. I don't think there's a lot of people that... I mean... Your guy could. I had a couple of different snappers that were very good.
43:53Matt Overton snapped for a very long time. He was incredible. He was good with laces on field goal. Who was before? Justin Snow was his name. So he actually named his kid Hunter. The punter that was here for 11 years before me, his name, Hunter. So the long snapper and the previous punter, besties. We're talking best, best friends. And Hunter the punter was beloved in Indianapolis. He was a very good man. I believe he's a religious singer. Yeah, Christian rock. He's a Christian rock band singer. Of course. Very athletic. Went to Notre Dame, I believe. I mean, you're talking about beloved here in town.
44:25And then this dumbass gets drafted in here, just complete opposite of this guy. I mean, it's just complete opposite of this human being. I get a public intoxication, obviously, my second year. Hunter the punter, yeah, right. This guy, literally, Notre Dame, Christian singer, beloved in the community. We're talking about going to hospitals every single day. Like Mother Teresa type stuff, this guy. The long sniper names his kid after him. And then I get drafted to come in here, just fucking animal. Justice Stone didn't talk to me for like six weeks. The only time he talked to me, he was like, where was the snap?
44:51And I'm like, I blacked out, I don't know. And he's like, what? He's like, what's that? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know where it's. I don't remember. Sorry, I just kind of go out there and do my thing. It must have been good, I guess, because it was a good pun. I don't even know. So that guy hated me for a while. But then we became best friends. He was really good. Strong, handsome guy. Long snappers are an interesting job. Two mistakes, you're fired. Yeah. All the time, just looming. Yep. Two mistakes, you're fired. Weeks still doing it is incredible. Speaking of still doing it, two old guys are battling in the AFC North.
45:20Kind of unexpected matchup here, but obviously going to be a great one. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Jay, it's 2025, but feels like 2015. What are you thinking about the Rodgers Flackos? I believe someone, it might have been Cam Hayward, dubbed it the Icy Hot Bowl during Rodgers' press conference yesterday. What are you thinking about tomorrow night? All right, Harry Potter over there asking questions. Love to see it. I think this is going to be an interesting short week. Last week we had the Steelers, and coming off a bye, Mike Tomlin's 14-4 against rookie quarterbacks. Mike Tomlin is 26-6. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, his Thursday night record, specifically against divisional opponents, is not very strong.
46:030-6. Is it really? 0-6. Yeah, 0-6 on the road in the division. Yeah, that fits that category. But I know Trey Hendrickson is possibly out here. Broderick Jones played a really good game this past week with a very difficult assignment in Myles Garrett. The Steelers just know who they are right now. You can tell that they know how they have to play these games and win these games. They're going with this XL personnel on offense with Spencer Anderson stepping in, Darnell Washington. And they just block well, run the ball, and then set up these throws where Aaron's taken a ton of underneath throws.
46:44And then every couple times throughout the game, he takes those deep shots. That throw to Connor Hayward was vintage Aaron Rodgers. He's got the DK throws. He missed one super deep one to DK where DK had burned the corner. So they just know who they are and how they have to win games right now. And their defense has finally started to figure it out after the first two games where they struggled. But we all know how it is. Going on the road is tough on Thursday night, even if it is close like Cincinnati. The Cincinnati offensive line, you know, it feels like this is a short week and you're not sleeping much knowing what's coming on the other side and how you have performed thus far.
47:24Joey Flacco, though, can get that ball out quick. You know, PFF said it. You know, sometimes quarterback can have a scheme that's so much better than everybody on defense, even if they're winning their assignments. You know, because their assignment could be go left, in, that's assignment. Check the box. 100 % on assignment. Ain't that right? I mean, Joey Flacco, the Browns have not scored over 17 points in 11 straight games. Joey Flacco goes to the Cincinnati Bengals, scores 18 points in the first game. Like, he's, like, the throwing of the, we're calling that game, and going into the game, both teams all week long had said, Quinshawn Judkins is the key to this game.
48:05He's a dynamic runner, really can do everything explosive, will run people over. And then they throw the ball 58 times. I think they got sacked on six of them, so it looked like 52. But they just didn't get the run game going at any point. You have to – you can't abandon the run. This game wasn't really out of reach until, like, the fourth quarter. I mean, maybe end of the third. But they just were chucking the ball over the yard. And, yes, I know there wasn't a lot of success in the run game early. But for them to be successful, specifically with a rookie quarterback, you have to try and get that run game going.
48:40And they just – they could not do it. It feels like everybody has to get the run game going. It's 2025 football in the NFL. Phil. There's two teams at the top though right now. Okay. I don't know if you know this, JJ, there's two teams that are five and one Pittsburgh Steelers four and one early by week. They might become five and one, but there's currently two teams, five and one representing the AFC, the Indianapolis Colts, of course. Okay. Everybody knew that's how that was going to be. Whenever you forecasted the season and training camp after week six, the Indianapolis Colts could be your number one senior AFC.
49:05You know, give us the hunt trophy. Go ahead and just give us the hunt trophy. It's great to be here. Jade, by the way, thank you for asking. Indianapolis fans are very happy about how we're playing. And every mic'd up thing that gets released, we're a cool team too. So, I mean, everything's going good here. I love the Daniel Jones mic'd up. That was great. Which one? The one where he's talking? Which one do you like better? I like both. At first I saw the one where he wasn't talking. That was great. And then I saw the one where he's talking. He just, I, we have them this week. I'm very excited.
49:34I haven't been able to watch much of them. So this week watching the film, I was really looking forward to seeing what the Colts look like. And I've had this thing in my head where it's like Danny Dimes is managing the game. He's just taking what's given to him. And then I flip on the film. Yeah, right. And he fires this dart into Alec Pierce in the red zone between three dudes. And I'm like, oh, he is not just managing the game. He is firing. Hey, brother, watch that Broncos game, dude. They bless them like 73 % of the time or something like that. You're talking about moving in the pocket, eyes downfield, and throwing seeds.
50:03Every ball is a good ball. Every ball is the right decision. It's like, remember there was a string that they won on at the beginning of the season when no turnovers and just touchdowns, basically. They didn't punt for like three weeks. I mean, it has been very good very early with Shane Steichen's offense and Danny Dimes. And my source says tell me that Danny Dimes lives in the building. He is in the building. He's a 5 a.m.er. So he's in there 5 a.m. And then he stays until the end. He's trying to build relationships with everybody. Obviously, he's only on a one-year deal with us. But everything you want from a lead quarterback, he has been.
50:33And I think if you ask the people in Indianapolis, they're like, we got to go back and watch the film of him at the Giants. What we need to see if there was, is this the same guy that was at the Giants? Because they believe that he is the perfect guy. Like everything that was said about him, there were people on his side coming out of the draft. Like, hey, this guy worked with Manning's people. He's more athletic. He's smarter. He's tougher. He can run faster. All those things. He's doing right now at his highest level. And I think the Colts people are like, we got so lucky that it did not work at the other places.
51:02And we're riding that wave. On that note, there's a team down in Florida that's riding a wave of a guy who didn't work in a couple other places as well. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, Tampa Bay's 5-1. They started the season without Tristan Wirfs and Cody Mock, the right guard. Then they lose Gadecki. Then they lose all of their receivers. Bucky Irving's out. Chris Godwin comes back, then he's back out, right? Baker Mayfield has been incredible. How is he able to keep this team afloat? I love that. I mean, like, A, his skills are underrated. Like, we – I think we put so much on his moxie and his persona and everything that he has from that standpoint, that his arm is great.
51:42Obviously, his ability to read the defense to break him down, but his ability to escape and to run and to just do whatever it takes. And then once you add on the fact that he's just never dead at any point in any game, and he has this, like, standing in the tunnel against Seattle, it's such a great visual of him and who he is. And when you have a guy like that slinging it in your backfield, you just believe in yourself more. The defense believes in themselves more where they say, if we get one stop here and give it to him, he's going to take us down the field and win the game. The receivers are catching balls that they might not have caught before.
52:17O-Lyman are blocking a little bit longer and getting that extra little push. There's just, that is very, very real. And I think it's such a cool aspect to his story, what he had to go through in the middle. And obviously you wouldn't want to have to go through those Panthers years and all that stuff again, but to see what he's playing like now after people wrote him off a few times, guy's a baller. It's awesome. You think he's a pre-workout guy before game and halftime? He does seem like he could be, but then if you also told me, no, he's just a mental pre-workout guy. I could see that. Salt's big time.
52:52He's definitely playing with Zen in, too. Okay, yeah, that's Baker Mayfield experience. He feels like he's drinking beer in the parking lot with the O-line. That's the type of guy he feels like. He feels like Gus Swayze, the video that the Buccaneers re-put out of him being dressed up as a superfan in one of the workouts, fantasy camps, and throwing it. That is how he plays, which I think is why he's so beloved down there. I'm so happy it is working for them. I can't wait until they have their full fleet. Now, you aren't a full season into it yet, but you've been doing a great job calling games.
53:19D-Bud has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, going into week seven now, it's a new gig in the booth every week. Like, how's it been? What's kind of been the biggest, I guess, challenges, biggest surprises so far in the year for you? yeah it's it's i love it man it's so much fun because you're in the stadium you get the adrenaline you have no idea what's going to happen on the field and you're just reacting live probably the biggest changes for me have been preparation during the week just learning what i need to know and what i don't need to know early on i just it was an unbelievable amount of information on my boards and i learned that like some of the stuff was not relevant and I didn't need it and I've transitioned to adding more stuff that is actually useful during the game but being able to see trends being able to see how teams attack certain things and as a player you attack the weak and you're watching one side of one opponent I'm only watching the offense of the other team and generally mainly the offensive line and just figuring out how I have to attack them for this I have to watch both sides of both teams so it's a lot more global view of the game and trying to figure out all these different aspects and how they play together and then making sure you explain to the viewers in a way that's comprehensible to them.
54:36This last game, there were some really good examples. Dylan Gabriel had thrown a couple balls over the middle that were caught, but his guys took big hits. And then they started to be looking at the safety instead of looking back at the ball and they dropped a couple because of that. And we had some really good shots and I thought that was a really cool thing to kind of be able to show and talk about on the broadcast yeah that's great anything that you know you can show that people don't normally see is a good thing but also you got to talk about what we're seeing you know some of these booths become super experts and talk about stuff that's like super niche and it's like how many people understand what the hell you're talking about i think you do a great job of dumbing it down while making it great and it might be because just who you are and where you come from on that note ty has the last question for you.
55:18Yeah, JJ, look, I know you're a big-time entrepreneur, okay? You own multiple soccer teams. I saw a report on the internet. I don't know if this is true, but it basically just said, hey, if Luke Fickle is to get fired at Wisconsin, JJ Watt has already said, I will throw my hat in the ring. I will go back to Madison, and I will help restore the Badgers to glory. Is there any truth to that? And can we be expecting that? Because AQ already said, hey, listen, I want to go coach at Penn State. Whoa, did he? Yeah. Wow, did he? Yeah, this morning he said that. I mean, what James Franklin was getting paid, I think anyone would take that job.
55:55We wish James Franklin his best. On that note, Jage, you own Burnley, you own Espanol. College is like professional sports now. Have you thought about dabbling? Maybe Penn State? The life of a college football coach has absolutely no appeal whatsoever to me. I like coaching football, just the pure on-the-field, helping guys be better at what they do and create the best they can. But then you add in all the meetings, you add in all the hours, and you add in recruiting and the traveling and having to go to these 17-year-old kids and be like, hey, you're the greatest in the world, come to our university.
56:34Then you add in the NIL and the boosters and people coming at you after the game. You didn't cover the spread, what's going on? I don't want to deal with any of that shit, man. You could pay me$50 million, and I don't want to go and do that. That's JJ Watt, living legend, saying there's no dollar amount on freedom and happiness. So go ahead and find yours. Our happiness comes from talking to you every week. You're the man. We'll be back on the other side. Goodbye. From 30 for 30 podcasts.
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58:03Football! wrong so we try our best not to be so to do that you have to be on your phone a lot you have to be scanning a lot you have to be scouring a lot you have to be seeing a lot you have to be doing all that there's some nights where i put it down i'm about to pass out and my entire head just feels like there is like an orb inside of it just like that's gonna affect us long term i assume at some point because the blue light glasses they had their quick run remember yep because they were it was almost like those little wristbands that uh they sold back in the day that puka brought up to us oh yeah t's a piece but but uh the wristbands back in there a little bit of a hustle that's where it felt like hey you need to wear these uh you need to wear these blue light glasses you need to wear these blue light glasses you're gonna go blind you're gonna go blind and everybody just stopped doing it i still think they serve a pretty vital purpose yeah and if that's what those are you look very cool in those glasses they got good shapes in them yeah it was more so just like 12 years of one-a-day contacts like i was just done with it and then i thought you were doing one-a-day contact for 12 years yeah so i i was at the point where i just i couldn't do it anymore and then, you know, I went to the eye doctor.
59:01They, you know, I asked, I inquired about some glasses and they told me, hey, the five-star treatment, they got blue light, they got the whole nine, the whole kit and caboodle. Never actually had a fitted pair of glasses. So, yeah, it's nice. I think they look cool. I think it's a good pair of glasses. I assume you feel better too because you have to do it. Sleeping much better. Like my whole life is better. I can imagine. And stabbing yourself in the eye every single day with the contacts is crazy. I never did that when I had contacts. I left them in, I don't know, two years or so. It turns out your eyes get real swollen and they get really worried about you.
59:29I would not recommend that to anybody. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Can't wait for everything D, B, good D, bad D. And 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion player coach AQ Shipley is your good seat. We're going to go into trenches and maybe get some takeaways here in a matter of moments. But we need to head to an attic in Ohio. College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. Yeah, Hawker. Hawker, how you doing, pal? I'm good. I thought the blue light glass were out. Didn't they prove that those things don't do anything?
59:57Well, that's what I'm saying. It was kind of like the wristband. It kind of came through. It was going to save your life, and then it keeps you moving. Now, I don't know if the blue light glasses will stop my head from feeling the way it does when I stare at my phone for too long, especially in the dark at night. But it feels like it's part of the five-star package that's currently sitting on Connor's face. Yeah, yeah. Who proved it? Was it the FDA or the WHO, or is it one of those companies we definitely trust? Good question. Okay, all right. That's actually a valid question, Conrad. It's a valid question.
1:00:21There's going to be stats from both sides on that, which is, once again, another thing that we have to try to figure out as we're a daily show. Lucky to do it. Thankful to do it. Speaking of daily shows, we could kind of sense that maybe the PFF wave was rolling in a certain direction. Now, it's always had its detractors. I mentioned this a couple different times. Always had people against it. Most notably, the people that have played at the highest level or coached at the highest level. Seemingly the most against it on a regular basis because you're making up a definitive number about things that are not definitive.
1:00:48You have no idea what actual rankings could be. but pff saying no we're just trying to give general audience a general idea of what it is it was like you're changing lives chris long's take was hysterical we're we're talking about legislation about what kids need to be seeing in school we don't need kids seeing a patch mahomes 13 out of 32 as you're incredibly blurry maybe you need to get some five-star package over there on your screen or on your camera we need to call you back we'll certainly call you you're gonna have to reset that thing aj i was excited to get his take on because aj sent a texted yeah in the middle of our argument says you can't win an assignment he feels the exact same way as everybody else does we'll get back to that with aj let's head over to hammer don don ap tone listen college ball is heating up and it feels like we had the biggest road win of the season ap put out their top 25 on sunday stanford steve put out his top 15 i believe yesterday and you now officially going to be putting out your college football playoff prediction as we sit after week seven of college football is that accurate tone yeah i figured at the halfway point this was probably a good time to do this i i saw that everyone was putting out their you know top 25s and stuff like that that's all fun and good this is what really matters the playoff and the playoff bracket what's going to happen here is what is really matters at the end of the day so yeah i wanted to put one out and how do you feel what is the storyline of yours Obviously, your number one team is Ohio State.
1:02:10Number two team, ACC champion, Miami. SEC champion, number three seed in Alabama. Number four seed is the Big Ten runner-up in Indiana. Yes, exactly. They make it to the Big Ten finals and lose and still get a bye because they're ranked in the top four. Yeah, Ohio State is clearly, looks like the best team in the country, and they're defending national champions. So at this point, it's hard to predict any losses for them. and then IU, if you look at the schedule, there's a real good chance that they went out as well. So I figured if they both get to the Big Ten championship game as undefeated, obviously the winner would be number one.
1:02:48And then I have a hard time dropping the loser, an undefeated regular season loser, and punishing them for losing the Big Ten championship game out of getting a bye. So that's why IU would go from they'd probably be two or three before the game and then drop to that four seed. Congrats to Texas Tech with a huge win in their conference. USF is the power five that makes it in at 12. Notre Dame sneaks in. Much debate, though. In your midseason college football playoff prediction here, you didn't put what conversations led to Notre Dame making it in. Was it massive debate? How loud did it get before they made it in?
1:03:21Well, obviously there is a huge one this weekend between Notre Dame and USC, which is an absolute must win for Notre Dame because after this, the schedule is not super tough. So if you win this weekend against USC and win out, it's very, very hard to leave out Notre Dame with their two losses would be to Miami, who's potentially undefeated at that point in the season. And then A &M, who I put at six instead of three, because in this situation, I had them losing to Alabama in the SEC championship. So if you lose, if your only losses are to Miami and A &M, obviously a big one this weekend for them in SC, I have a hard time leaving Notre Dame out.
1:04:00Notre Dame, the road looks clearer and clearer every single day. Obviously, that road can become a fast pass to the playoffs if they beat USC. I was not a believer. I thought they were going to be dead whenever it started the way it did. But now with how we see A &M doing, to your point, and how Miami's doing, those are not bad losses to actually have on the old resume. They just so happen to happen early. Congrats to Ole Miss and Georgia where we're heading this weekend making it in there. Obviously, you're not giving anything away there. Tennessee, Hyples team rolling. Congrats to them. Oregon, out of the Big Ten, makes it in in the final spot.
1:04:32In your eyes, well, the final spot's USF, but you get it in the bracket. And then in the hunt there, I can't help but notice a few teams. You know, I see Utah there. Don't see BYU in the hunt. BYU plays Utah this weekend. BYU undefeated currently. Utah has one loss. So it sounds like Tern doesn't think BYU is winning the Holy War. That's what I noticed from your college football playoff prediction here, Tom. Yeah, I might have showed my hand a little bit on that one for this weekend. I do like the Utes over BYU. I like Dampier and Utah and Whittingham over a freshman quarterback in BYU in his first holy war in that situation.
1:05:11Then Utah would have to then win out because there's not going to be a lot of Big 12 games in there or Big 12 teams in there, I should say. And then the other ones, you know, when I went through and I looked at the schedules, It's like LSU, Oklahoma, Mizzou, Texas, Vandy, those SEC teams. Like, they got them around 9-3. Like, are they going to get in at 9-3? There's a question mark. Georgia Tech is undefeated. But Georgia Tech is a dog at Duke this weekend. So, like, is Georgia Tech going to slip up? They still have Georgia on their schedule. They have an ACC championship on their schedule. But, obviously, if they keep winning and win out, they're going to be in.
1:05:50There's just a lot of those SEC teams in the hunt. they have a far tougher schedule than Tennessee and Georgia and Ole Miss. That's why I had those SEC teams sneaking in. The other SEC teams that have to play five ranked games in a row, I have those ones out strictly because it's going to be hard to navigate those waters. Five SEC teams is what tells you. One ACC team, one Big 12 team, one independent, one Power 5, which leaves what? Three left there for the Big 10. And I think the Big Ten people would say, our top three, we feel good about running any of them. Is that right what the Big Ten feels?
1:06:26Yeah, I would assume so. You're thinking that, I mean, especially with Indiana now, it's like, hey, who's to say that Indiana might not be in the championship with a good shot to win it? And then I think everyone thinks Ohio State is the best team in the country right now. And then if Oregon is kind of just like your throwaway, you know, hey, Oregon's there, they might win too. It doesn't matter if they get four teams in because they have a very good chance of potentially winning a national championship with any of those three teams that could potentially get in. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from Manatic in Ohio is an Ohio State representative.
1:06:59Has a tree on their campus. He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and maybe he's in focus. Ladies and gentlemen, focus on this man, A.J. Haas. A.J. Haas. Oh, look at that. Focus. So fresh and so clear. Clear. I appreciate you doing that for us. A nice little reset. That Tone's midseason college football playoff predictor here has the Ohio State Buckeyes sitting at number one. Congrats on another Big Ten, AJ. Congrats on another Big Ten championship over there. Yeah, we appreciate being number one. We know it doesn't matter right now, but just everyone, just get into the dance.
1:07:28It's all that matters. Let's get into the dance and everybody's got a shot. Five SEC teams, three Big Ten teams, obviously Power Five, Big 12, and ACC represented as well. Your thoughts on that, AJ, and how loud that's going to be at the end of the year because the back-to-back national champions are Big Ten teams. I assume there's going to be some record that is going to be talked about as Big Ten teams. But whenever Penn State, no offense, AQ. Thanks. None taken. When Penn State does what they do, they're supposed to be a good game. Not good. Michigan, they're supposed to be a big game. That's supposed to be a ranked game.
1:07:59A lot of these Big Ten teams were supposed to have actual ranked games down the stretch. Now there's like none of them. So we're going to learn nothing really about the top teams of the Big Ten until Ohio State, Michigan, obviously going to matter. But the SEC, they're going to beat each other up, AJ. They're about to beat each other up pretty good. I mean, they're all playing each other. So the debate before this comes out, whenever the actual one comes out, it's going to be gruesome. I mean, it is going to be very, very loud and toxic, AJ. Oh, it is. I mean, hey, Coach Saban came out here and said, like he was talking about how deep the SEC is.
1:08:29I agree. The SEC is very deep. Well, let's see what happens once the playoffs start. Let's see if when they go head-to-head, what happens? Can the Big Ten prevail again when it comes to – When you do have to play in some elements and everything, it all changes, I think, towards the end of the year. What's the weather going to be like for college football fanuary in Oregon? In Oregon, is that the only cold game that's on Tone's graphic here? Yeah. Eugene, get really cold? Gumps. I assume that gets very cold up there. Is that accurate? You're from Pacific Northwest area? Well, cold, but not as cold as it was in Ohio State that night.
1:09:04It won't get that cold on the West Coast. So it's closer to Alaska. It's more north. More rain, though, than snow over there. I don't think I understand why it's not more rain than snow. January, it's normally highs of 48 and lows of 34. Oh, that's perfect football weather. Wow. That's perfect. Tennessee learned from last year. Yeah. And that's going to feel like a cakewalk compared to what it was last year. Tell them we appreciate the time and the effort, pal. Thank you. Let's go back to what we were chit-chatting about before you were getting throttled over there, potentially by the Ohio-based company that was in, you know, kind of question PFF.
1:09:36What are your thoughts on the reaction currently? There's always been a little bit of a negative narrative by players and coaches and people that really, really know ball about PFF, kind of giving a broad, not so accurate potential ranking on people and humans and changing their lives and maybe value. But then there's also the point being made, there's people in rooms that are making decisions that are using this PFF stuff as well. AJ, how do you feel about it all, and how do you feel about the chatter that's taking place around it right now? Yeah, I mean, I think it's two different things. First of all, PFF, what they do with stats and all of that, that's great.
1:10:06Like, that's awesome. That's a resource for people to look at. And when you're grading players though, that's a different story. I mean, I just think we don't know. Obviously Chris Long nailed it 100%. He's spot on everything he said is true. I'm like, yeah, it just, it makes so much sense when you hear it, but I just remember, it makes me think of a play. So Champ Bailey was playing for Denver. One of our defensive coaches showed the whole defense this play. I believe it was in that like a national televised night game. And it shows, it looks like Champ Bailey's getting beat deep. He's like trailing three or four yards behind a dude on a deep ball, guy scores, whatever, and people think Champ Bailey's lost the step, he's done, he should retire.
1:10:41And my coach was showing us, and he was explaining the coverage to us, because I think he even called and talked to their defensive coordinator about what coverage they were in. And Champ was being a great teammate and trying to slough off and help his buddy. Like I think the safety dropped a dude or jumped down on a 12-yard dig or something when he had to cover him deep. Champ sees it happening, comes over the top, and it looks like Champ gets beat deep. I think even the commentators on TV are talking about it. And our coach was telling us, hey, Chample's being a good teammate, trying to cover up for another guy, and now people think the guy can't even play football anymore because we don't know what the responsibilities are.
1:11:16We don't know the assignments. And it's true. When I was on the Packers, if someone on offense ran a wrong route or did something, I have no idea. I had no idea what he was supposed to do that time, unless I come over and I talk to him after he gets off the field. Like even players on their own team don't know whose responsibilities certain things are at times. Yeah, I have no idea what anybody's doing out there. I was in the meetings listening to it. It's I just to put kind of a bow on this entire thing, because we've certainly attacked it from all angles. And maybe we were seizing the opportunity to do as such because we've kind of been on this for a few years now because it's mostly player driven show.
1:11:52So a lot of players seemingly have the same exact feels about this. J.J. Watt, who's the best player in the history of PFF, has the same exact feeling as we do. Like, hey. Broke the system. Enough of this stuff. Your system wasn't even good enough to be able to track how great I am. Okay? So how are you going to be able to track how good anybody is in this entirety? I think we're at the point now where PFF doesn't have to do this anymore is kind of what we're saying. Congrats, PFF. You got into a great spot. Yeah. Just like they said the Miles Garrett ranking was a compliment to the Pittsburgh Steelers, everything we've said to you here has been a compliment to you.
1:12:20You've gotten to a point where you don't have to do this shit anymore because all this does is just kind of undercut everything else you do because the people in the football world don't take you serious. And the people that do take you serious don't know football, but they don't know that they don't know football, and sometimes they're in football positions, and we need you not to ruin that. Okay, PFF, that's a powerful tool you have. So please take care of it, and we appreciate you. Compliment. Imagine if they do it in other sports. Imagine if, like, primetime NBA games, and they pop up the starting lineup, and it gives you their rankings in the NBA.
1:12:48Or, say, the NHL. I don't know a whole lot about hockey, and if I see a guy as, you know. So 88 out of 100, like, oh, this guy stinks. And then you talk to a hockey person, like, actually, that guy's a stud. I can see how people get swayed by that. I believe it's called NBA Twitter now. Oh, yeah. NBA Twitter would be awesome if there was rankings for every player up there. Look at Halliburton S. Ranked 55th in this entire thing. And then he hits game winner at the end of it, you know, because rankings and stats can kind of go however they want. Baseball, what would be – hey, there's baseball happening right now, right?
1:13:20Yeah. Last night was a huge night in baseball with a player that we certainly know well from around the program because we had a holiday party, a Christmas party a few years back where his name was certainly mentioned and trending worldwide because of something that was said from our Christmas party. But baseball doing it last night. Yeah, big time. Dodgers and Brewers and the guy you're talking about. Yeah, I unfortunately a couple years ago at the holiday party got a little boozed up, as we all did. and I basically said, hey, listen, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, it's a done deal. He is signing with the Yankees.
1:13:54He is leaving Japan. He is the golden goose right now, and he will be. It's done. Nine years,$326 million. And the terms? I had the terms. I had sources telling me that actually Godzilla Matsui, one of the greatest Yankees of all time who is also Japanese, helped push it over the goal line, and just kind of the cherry on top that Yoshi would be keeping the number 18. Reader's added context. Just want to let you know. Yeah, so I put this out there and, boy, I don't know, maybe 45 minutes, hour later, he signed with the Dodgers. He signed with the Dodgers. He got community noted not until after the signing with the Dodgers, though.
1:14:32There was a 30-minute period where Ty Schmidt was the biggest baseball insider on earth. And I'll tell you what, there might be some benefits to that. there was certainly a lot of negative as well including jeff passing calling our christmas party facetiming me answering and ty in the back and jeff going what are you doing and ty go that was literally what he did over my shoulder literally as i facetim he goes like this he goes you don't know maybe is what ty said yeah i mean and jeff goes no i do know that's not what happened ty goes you don't know and then ty just walks away and jeff is like hey he's wrong you know that And I'm like, yes.
1:15:07I mean, I didn't know he sent that out. We're all pretty boozed up here. And boy, the action that that got. I mean, you were. Yeah, that thing spread like wildfire. You were around the world of baseball pretty quickly. I mean, you took a jet engine around the world of baseball. People are heralding you. This guy, the new guy. Yeah. This is a new insider. Yeah, Yankees fans really wanted him. I really wanted him, which was partially part of the reason. But he did end up signing 12 years,$325 million with the Dodgers. So I had the numbers. You were three years off. I had the contract, but I had the total value, which is really all you're looking for.
1:15:37I want you to just pull that from your head, drunk head. Pretty much. And we learned a lesson that day. We can't be doing that now. Can't be doing that. People take us serious. Yeah, exactly. About 5 ,000 retweets later, people, they will see it, and they will let you know. I think even Ravi, Carl Ravitch sent a text like, does Ty actually know? It's like, no. Oh, no, yeah. I mean, Jet said, like somebody from the Yankees called. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? So, you know, I mean, sometimes it gets away from you. And we like that. We try to learn from all these things. Exactly. At one point in our show's lives, we could do that and everybody, ha, ha, ha, ha.
1:16:09Right. Obviously, this is not true. Yeah. We have learned over the years through a lot of trial and error, a lot of error, that there are things that we need to navigate much better. Okay. We apologize for that, but we are trying our absolute best. Being the biggest baseball insider on earth for one night, for one 30-minute period, was a fun little trip, though. I had to do it. And hey, listen, there are going to be a couple pretty good Japanese players posted this offseason. I might have to do it again. No. It didn't work out. I know it didn't, but it might work out this time. So did you know this, AJ?
1:16:43Baseball in Japan started in 1872 when Horace Wilson, an English teacher, went over there. I assume there was some sort of religious reason to travel to Japan. 1872, I don't even know how you get over there. I don't know when the Wright brothers did the thing. He walked. I don't know. Wow. I don't know. That's so far away. I don't even know. He takes the game over there, and then obviously they become massive fans of the sport. And I think in 1936 or something like that, they started a professional league. So Japan and baseball have a very, very deep history. But obviously with Shohei doing his thing and more superstars coming over here, that's only going to grow, I imagine.
1:17:20And what happened last night, I think, is even building the game and the team in Japan, I think, tenfold after a performance like last night, right? Yeah, we can assume that that teacher went directly to Bison, Okayama, Japan, which is where Yoshinobu Yamamoto is from, because it seems like a lot of good players are coming from that region. Hotbed. Yeah, exactly, a real hotbed. South Florida of Japan, right? That is what a lot of people say, yeah. And at the time when he got signed, it was like, hey, this guy is going to be one of the next aces. And he's been good, but then last night was really kind of his coming out party for the Dodgers.
1:17:58So, you know, I mean, if you want to roll the clip, Foxy, here, and then we'll just kind of, you know, real quick. So Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and there he is. I mean, we can show everything else. Dodgers hit a couple homers. This guy threw a complete game last night. Yeah, I mean, there's Teoscar Hernandez hitting one out early, but you can really stop it there, Foxy, and kind of just go back to the strikeout to end the game. Yoshinobu Yamamoto threw 111 pitches. He gave up a homer his first batter of the game and then basically just mowed the Brewers down. He's the first Dodger to throw a complete game in the playoffs.
1:18:33There you go, since 2004. So, like, we've been talking about this throughout the playoffs. This stuff doesn't happen anymore. And that's why you pay a guy from Japan$325 million because in the biggest moment, he goes out and kind of just mows guys down. So, we said it a couple days ago. Unfortunately, Brewers are going to need an absolute miracle. Dodgers are the best team in baseball. I mean, you know, this guy is kind of just like an afterthought, and they're paying him$325 million, and any fifth day he can go out there and have a performance like that. So I'll tell you what, if you're a Dodgers fan or you're a Mariners fan, you're pretty jacked up.
1:19:09You're pretty ecstatic today because, boy, it feels like, you know, in the biggest moments right now, both these series are kind of over. Both road teams took 2-0 leads. the Mariners and the Dodgers respectively. So, yeah, I mean, we still have baseball left. These are best of seven series, but boy. Looking real West Coast, huh? LA, Seattle? Looking real West Coast right now. I hope Big Dumpers is able to finish the story, and then obviously Shohei and the boys being able to do their thing, especially in Kershaw's last year, right? Yeah, correct. Kershaw's last year. How is Shohei playing? He hasn't been great at the plate.
1:19:43I believe he's batting like 143 right now, but, I mean, it doesn't matter. You know, last night he gets an RBI single to kind of pad the lead a little bit. But that's the thing about the Dodgers. Like, when you spend, you know, like$8 billion on your roster, like, yeah, you'd like the MVP to come through. But guess what? You got another MVP behind him and another MVP behind that guy and then an all-star behind that guy. So that's why I like the Pirates. Next year we have a chance? Big time. Yeah. You know what? Walk back to Japan. You can either walk back to Japan and maybe – With Horace Wilson?
1:20:16Yeah. Like, it's 1872? Some of these posting fees, they're going to need to spend a little money. You hope Skeens is the same guy, and then you basically go into the clubhouse and you say, all right, you seven guys need you guys to take steroids. And I need you guys to take steroids right now and get on multiple cycles over the next six to eight months. That'd be awesome. And then you guys will be different players come opening day next year. So you batted 198 next year. You start taking steroids right now, and you get on a cycle, and you just keep doing that. And then guess what? We flipped a 196 hitter.
1:20:51See, we just talked about this. You're batting 280 next year. This is not a real thing. We just talked about this with Yamamoto. No, I know, but unfortunately, that is the only way the Pirates will be able to win. It's the only way because they're not going to spend a bunch of money, and they're just kind of always going to stink. So that is basically what you're looking at. U7. Yeah, U7 guys. A lot cheaper. A lot cheaper. It is a lot cheaper. It is a lot cheaper. And if you get suspended, there's going to be a lockout in 2027 anyway. Hold on. We're just getting good. We got barbarians stepping into the batter's book.
1:21:25That's not a bad idea. And I'm sure our guys, it's Pittsburgh, will be able to get around the test. Hey, just kind of wrap up the Dodgers and Yamamoto pitching the entirety of the game. Dodgers starting pitchers in postseason. It's from Hembo. In 2024, they obviously won the World Series. 5.25 ERA for the starting pitchers. They pitched 42 % of the innings. starting pitchers in 2025, 1.54 ERA, and they're pitching 71 % of the inning. So they're going longer and throwing better this year than they were last year. Yeah, correct, and that's a big deal because if you wanted to nitpick the Dodgers going into the playoffs, it was like, hey, get to the bullpen.
1:21:57If they can get these starting pitchers out, their bullpen is kind of in flux right now and not as good. But that's why they went out and, you know, North Carolina legend Blake Snell, that's why they paid him a bunch of money because when you can have starting pitchers throw eight to nine innings in the playoffs and you have the kind of lineup that they have, it's going to be virtually impossible to beat a team like that in a seven-game series. At Between the Noms, Greg Harvey with some great stats. Literally after every single sporting event, I love the cut of his jib. Hembo obviously keeping us stocked and loaded every day with numbers.
1:22:26We appreciate the hell out of commentating on the history of the sporting events that we chatted about. Let's go back to the NFL now after week six of the NFL season. Had a lot of magic happen. Two teams really seemingly separated themselves. Two teams really said that we're the best in the whole damn league. Two teams said we're doing this from the beginning to the end. That'd be the Bucs to the Colts. Now, we don't have to just talk about them forever. That'd be too much for us to do. That'd be a little biased. Wouldn't it, AJ, if we talked about the Colts all the time? Number one seed in the AFC by all accounts, and maybe the most complete team in the NFL right now.
1:22:56Okay? So we could talk about them all day, right, AJ? Yep, we could. We don't want to do that, though. We don't want to talk about them all day, because then we'd have to say things like, go on any season, everybody thought they were going to be good, everybody thought they were going to be ass. Colts fans online actually said his team's going to be ass. Danny Dimes being a starting quarterback ever again was something that people would have spit in your face of your take if you were to say Danny Dimes might be in the MVP conversation in 2025 with the Indianapolis Colts. Because we had the opportunity, obviously, with AR, and once again, we believe ours coming into the season, and we can't believe our eyes whenever we read things about what's happening to AR, whenever he's working out, trying to get better, and the building actually attacks his face.
1:23:32That is obviously unfortunate. This guy's been incredible. We could talk about that all day. Michael Pittman Jr. gets into a fight. Danny Dimes actually jumps in to fight with him. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not doing that. Danny Dimes on the sideline, high five. Quentin Nelson playing better football than he's played in a long time. Might just make an appearance in there. Jonathan Taylor's the best running back in the damn league. Let's go to the leaders, actually, of this entire NFL season thus far. Here's the rushers. Okay, here's the rushers. Jonathan Taylor right now, leading the league in rushing.
1:23:57And we just had the year where Saquon Barkley had what he had with the Philadelphia Eagles winning the Super Bowl. Top five rushers at this point. Jonathan Taylor, 603 yards. James James Cook, 537 yards. Bijon Robinson, who's ranked number 19th or something like that, or 13th in running back position in the entire NFL from PFF. That is correct. He's getting really dinged up for fumbling but not losing fumbles, but he's fumbling, or at least he did on Sunday night. They're calling this guy the MVP. They're saying he's the best football player in the entire league. Our entire offense runs through him.
1:24:24PFF says middle of the pack, whatever it comes to running backs in this entirety. Javante and then Rico Dowdell, the Rico act has been tossed a couple different times. I don't even think he's ranked by PFF. I think Rico's doubted. He was not in their top 16 from Sunday, and he once again had like 200. From Sunday? Yeah. Yeah, he was not in top 16. There's a lot of things happening with PFF right now. They actually had him listed as a tight end, I think, on PFF. Okay, so we don't know if that's true or not, but top five rushers right there. Could be. Hey, Koush, what are you seeing there? And obviously we'll do your in the trenches top five offensive line here in a little bit.
1:24:53What do you see from this, and do you think this is the way to win football games? That's a pretty accurate list right there. Jonathan Taylor's been fantastic. James Cook didn't get a touch in the fourth quarter. Probably need to go a little bit more through him. Bijan, as we've talked about, maybe the MVP electric player. Javante Williams, they've done a fantastic job revamping their offensive line and run game. I know they lost this last week. Rico Dowdle has really come on. He's got 200 yards rushing the last two weeks. Incredible. Yeah, it's been fun to watch Rico. And he's a day one buckled up, though.
1:25:19Like, I love the way everybody for the Carolina Panthers seemingly speaks. And Bryce Young included. Yeah. They had a mic'd up about Bryce Young whenever they were down 17. He sounded like a 45-year-old pro in there. and his calmness and his matter-of-factness and his, like, I want to say his empathy for his teammates for the moment, while also right here's Bryce Young while they're down 17 this past weekend. Stay with me. Just stay with me. It's a long game. Just stay with me. Stay with me today. I got your back, bro. Hey, keep going with me. I promise. We're in a good spot. Keep going with me.
1:25:47Here we go. Oh, here we go. Music helps. Let's get it now. One at a time. NFL time scoring. This is where we finish. This is always ours. This is where we finish. Yeah, it is. Let's go. Fourth quarter. This is where we finish. Stay with it. We're right where we need to be. Right where we need to be. And it's Anthony Emzo for a touchdown, and he gives Carolina the lead. Great calls, coach. Hey, hey, ball. Great job, man. Watch your back. Finish us off. Bring your ball. Let's go. First set by Carolina. Let's go. Hey, four minutes. Four minutes. Let's go. Four minutes. Let's go. Hey, hey, we finished right here.
1:26:21They don't touch the ball. He up. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. It's a pass interference, and the Panthers just have to kneel it. Let's go! Hell yeah! Best player in football. Yoke takes the knee, and the Panthers make a statement. That's what I'm talking about. That's third. Hey, that's what I'm talking about, man. I love you, bro. Hey, maybe they got something down there. Maybe they got something down there, especially with the run and what their offensive line has been able to do. Let's go to the top wide receivers thus far as we are week six into the season. Number one, Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's been special.
1:26:57Puka Nakula, obviously, we heard him give a speech to the team on the sideline. That was incredible. His mic'd up stuff inside the NFL on X has been phenomenal. I like that they're getting stuff out there. Now, there's a lot of other people saying, we've been stealing foot for sale. Feel bad for us. George Pickens, obviously a whole new world out there in Dallas without CD. Emeka Abuka got hurt early for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, obviously monitor that situation. And Jamar Chase, who now has his third quarterback of the season, is at 468. Hey, D-Butts, what do you see from the top five receivers in the league?
1:27:26Leagues are good hands when it comes to pass catchers. Seattle, they moved on from D.K., Jackson, Smith, and Jacob. He's been unbelievable since coming into the league. Same thing with Puka, moving on from Cooper Cup, gave him the mantle. You got to have all these are getting great quarterbacks throwing the ball as well. So you're going from Sam Darnold. You got Matt Stafford and Dak getting it to George Pickens. He's been a great pickup so far. Ibuka, you heard B.A. talking about, hey, if my rookies are ready by Thanksgiving, it's great. He came in. Hopefully we get him healthy soon. And Jamar Chase being up here in his top five with what's been going on at the quarterback position over there is absolutely tremendous.
1:28:00He'll produce regardless of who throwing him the ball. So great, great list right here. Let's go to the top five quarterbacks. We want to talk about the leagues in good hands, speaking of the ball in hands. Matthew Stafford leading the league. Dak Prescott at number two. Sam Darnold with the Seattle Seahawks. Crazy what's happened for Sam Darnold last year with Minnesota, now with Seattle. Baker Mayfield down in Tampa Bay. Obviously, the picture of picking yourself up and becoming the face of a franchise, both him and Sam Darnold, both, and Matthew Stafford, I guess, whenever he goes over to L.A.
1:28:28and just becomes the face of that Rams team. And then Drake May, the man out of North Carolina who's already on his second head coach and into his second offensive coordinator, and a guy who, since the day he got into a Patriots uniform, had Patriots fans, at least the guy that we know as a Patriot fan, saying, we got a guy. He's big, he's strong, he's fast, he rounds out a top five. AJ, what do you see from the top five passers in the NFL thus far this NFL season? I think it's cool to see young Drake May crack into this top five and Matthew Stafford with the longevity that dude has had and how long he has been doing it.
1:28:57But, I mean, can we get Dak some help on defense, man? Like, Dak is playing very, very good football at a high level, and they just can't seem to stop anybody. It's like a feel-good story, I feel like, to see Darnold and Baker on there playing so well. For whatever reason, it's easy to root for those guys. I concur completely. Let's go to getting to the quarterback. Let's go to Saks, top five Saks in the league. You got Benito on that Denver Broncos defense that made the Jets look horrendous in London. Byron Young, number 0-6. Same with Brian Burns. Aiden Hutchinson in Durant's Armstrong. Now, whenever I see these five guys, AQ, you think nightmare, or what are the thoughts on what's happening on the defensive line pass rush side of football?
1:29:37They are nightmares, but I think when you look at Benito and you look at Byron Young, both of those guys benefit from having a good defensive line all the way across. When you look at Benito, he's got Cooper, he's got Zach Allen, he's got all these guys, right? Byron Young has Fisk. He's got Verse. I mean, they got players everywhere. Obviously, Brian Burns got Dexter Lawrence. He's got Abdul-Kart, right? Like, all these guys are benefiting from the entire group. They're just the ones making the plays. Okay, now let's talk about more on the defensive side. In the back end, let's go top five picks.
1:30:03Top five picks. You got Lloyd with four, Byron with three, Joseph with three, Petrie with three, and then 18 people with two. Okay, now I don't see all the names on her. I see Bynum pretty good and Makai Blackman, all the other names. just kind of – Leotu Latu is also in there. He's a defensive end. So it feels like those names are a little bit bigger than all the other ones. But what does this mean, D-Butch? Is this a good start, you think, to the defense on getting their hands on the ball or a bad start? Kind of coming from all over the place. You've got a linebacker right now leading the league in interceptions with Devin Lloyd and then two kind of free safeties, deep field safeties, getting their hands on the ball.
1:30:37And then Jalen Petrie, who kind of plays all over, but mostly in the slot. And then obviously a bunch of guys tied at five. So getting their hands on the ball from all over the defense. I like that. I appreciate where we're at. And congrats to all of these guys being top five. A lot of guys top five here. That's right. A lot of guys top five. They're intercepting top fives, even though they're top 30 in this particular list. And then let's go to tackles. AJ, total tackles now. We've got dogs all over to play 66 tackles down there in Miami. There is an upside down there. Bobby Wagner still doing it in Washington at 65.
1:31:09Cedric Gray, Jamie, and Nate Landman. Great name out of Landman. And obviously it's been fun to watch him play this year. Feels like we're just learning his story. AJ, what are your thoughts on Bobby Wagner's old ass still doing it? That's so awesome to see Bobby out there. Bobby's still playing. That's the problem. People, when they know that somebody's been around forever and they know what age they are, they watch it with these weird filtered looks. Like, oh yeah, he's still pretty good for how old he is. No, he's pretty damn good for a football player. He's an awesome linebacker in the NFL no matter what age he is.
1:31:39And I'll tell you what, Landman, he's quietly just racking up the stats over there in LA. Jordan Brooks, let's go to One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino. Jordan Brooks, all over the place. God knows real ball. Absolute leader on the defensive side of the football. Probably the whole leader on the entire team. He makes a tackle every time he gets near a guy. Well, the leaders need to get it right because I've heard there's people being late to things that the leaders are putting together. He'll be taking the podium today, actually. Okay, I'm excited to hear what he is. They're facing a lot of offensive snaps.
1:32:13If you pop that list up again, it's the one list I think stands out from the other ones where you see three teams on here, the Dolphins, the Titans, the Jets, where it's like, yeah. Teams are only scoring 60 % of the time. You're saying stats are a little misleading? No, no, no. I'm not saying it's misleading. You're saying, well, it's easy to get 66 tackles whenever you're on the field, 4 ,000x the other team. No, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's just one of those lists that sometimes you don't want to be on. And then even with the passing, you don't necessarily want to be. You have a great passer, obviously, but you don't want to be on that list.
1:32:42A lot of times you want to be running that ball out, winning the game, four-minute drives. But it can be misleading. Okay, and last stat, this might be misleading as well because it's our first time really giving it. Kickoffs and punts only, not turnovers. Drive start average, basically. After a turn is when the offense gets the ball. The Washington Commanders average the 32.2-yard line after every single time they get the ball. It's pretty good. So if it's a kick or a punt, a kickoff or a punt, their return average in getting them to the 32.2-yard line, that's a great drive start. and then after the kick you know which would be the defensive drive start when the defense takes the field the new york giants defense currently jogging onto the field average 24 yard line start which is that's less than a touchback used to be last year whenever it was at the 25 or two years ago whenever it was at the 25 that's incredible stuff you know the kickoff's a big deal now okay they're a big deal now you either got somebody that can do them or you don't and if you don't you can get punished you kick it out of bounds it's 40 touchbacks 35 you kind of have to cover these teams have been doing well in special teams and some of these teams haven't been doing well the rest of the way so maybe they need to lift up and play to the level their special team joining us now is a man who's coaching a special team in a special place that hasn't been known for the sport that they are currently playing great at in a long long long time maybe ever ladies and gentlemen head coach of the number three ranked team in the united states of america The Indiana Hoosier football team, Kurt Cignetti.
1:34:04Yeah, coach! How you doing, Paisan? How you doing? Thank you for joining us today. I know you've got a lot going on. I know you have a lot on your plate. Obviously, whenever you win, you know, the expectations grow, and it's your job to make sure everybody knows that we're just on to the next week. Now, on that note, that win in Oregon felt good for you and the boys? I mean, obviously, with the conversation last year about Ohio State and Notre Dame, you had to face it head-on multiple times. That win in Oregon was something like a weight off your guys' shoulders, you think? Or was there a sense of excitement about, we know we can do this and we finally did?
1:34:37Is that a true statement or no? Well, I think it was a challenge, you know, that we prepared what we find to the game. And a great group, and I mean, Oregon's a great football team, but that's a great group.
1:34:57You know, it's the play. Veteran team played football. It was. Hey, Coach, we have to call you back. We have to call you back with Reconnect because the audio was dropping out on our side, not on your side. It's our fault, not yours. We apologize for that. What happened there? I mean, we didn't even get half the word. Normally, that thing kind of corrects its course. you know that kind of starts doing itself and starts figuring it out it got worse almost as he was talking did he was in his bag too you see the hair oh yeah it looks good oh my god yeah there was good light it was really that was phenomenal now i do believe there was a connection thing at the beginning and then obviously we see him and we want to get started so that's on us for maybe rushing it before the audio was completely put together but what their team has been doing aj you could see how maybe the boys on that flight back four hours five hour flight back there's probably some shit talking happened amongst the boys about we knew this was possible and I think they did and I think I did as well because I've seen them because I'm here in Indianapolis I don't know if a lot of people know this Indiana team AJ legit I don't think that's the case no they don't and you're right like you're I mean you picked them you definitely you definitely felt this before the game but yeah it's like anything else like team like people casual fans what you got to prove it over and over and over again that you are that team that deserves to be in this kind of situation I think win the game on the road like this in Oregon that puts you on the map and people need to know you're legit.
1:36:21Longest home winning streak because of Georgia and Washington losing at home and the weeks before that. And Autzen's supposed to be an impossible place to play. It is an impossible place to play. The travel, the sound, everything about it is a real home field advantage. I thought it not being a night game a little bit different. I thought that potentially a little bit different. But I think they have to play in a lot of these games because obviously West Coast is three hours ahead. So did they get the best of Autzen? I think so. and did they get the best team and versions of themselves? I think so.
1:36:51For them, in the biggest moment, they showed up and played their best ball. I think that's huge for a team's confidence. Huge. You go into a hostile environment like that because everybody outside of the building, nobody believed in them. We saw, obviously, the panel who picked the games, but that was pretty much the consensus outside watching the game. So to go in there and make plays, and it starts with your big-time players. Sometimes in these type of games, just your top dog or one of your dogs just need to make a big-time play, and everybody else knows, it goes, all right, we're here and we're here to win it.
1:37:17And then it's nothing like that. Those are probably one of the top two or three things you miss as a former player, like those trips back home, you know, going into somebody else's place, kicking their ass, getting on the plane, and having that trip. The vibes are just unmatched. So I don't know if there's a connection issue still. If Coach Cignetti joins us again, we will certainly bring him back in. We can't wait to catch up with him. We believe in him. We love him. And also, this state loves him. This is a football state. You know, when Peyton got here. I've been sitting there. Allergy season.
1:37:50Yeah, but I've been seeing up. You have. Got to do both, unfortunately. What, the allergy Claritin type thing? Yeah. And C? Oh, yeah. C? Every day. Can't miss days either. I've been half-assed. Me too. I've been seeing the shit. We got C in here. We got vitamin C gummies. I take about 10 of them every time I come in on Friday. Boom. So you're once a week in it, try to make up for the rest of the weeks. I'm every day in here walking in. C? C? And I'm doing it. So I feel like I'm putting up a good defense system. You know, I'm putting up a good battle for this. It happens to everybody that's in this world every single fall.
1:38:23And I assume it happens to everybody on Earth as well. I'm just talking about the TV world. So whenever you see people on TV or you hear them talking, you can hear it. Just know that they're going through it right now. And they are very excited for that to be done. And when it's done, it's clear sailing for the rest of the season. So it's like, when's it going to get you? When's it not going to get you? And then we start reading about these vitamin C gummies. It's like, hold the phone. We don't have to yet. Need to. Sounds like we don't have to get it. We can just battle every single day with these gummies.
1:38:48Instead, what it sounds like is I didn't know there was another tag team partner to this entire thing. Yeah. I mean, we're getting in the point now where we're going to start – these 75s are going to go away, and we're going to start – we're going to wake up, and there's going to be frost on the ground, and the high is going to only be 55, 60. Whether you have allergies or not, you've got to take them because that ragweed does not quit, and that pollen does not quit, and it's coming. This is me getting old, though, too. I never would have worried about this ever in my life, but now I'm an old man.
1:39:14Part of it. Just wait until you start sending McKenzie back and forth from school. Oh, yeah. It's coming over. Oh, yeah. All nonstop. Petri-ish. Everybody's immune system. Everybody's immune system gets better then. Herd immunity. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I did hear some stuff about it. I think it was kind of, whoosh, quickly. But I do remember herd immunity is a strong – because I like to be part of a herd. You know, I like – Yeah, we all do. We all do. You got your arms up like this. Like we just want a Stanley Cup down there. Hell, yeah. Right before the thing. We are going to get through this together.
1:39:42We need to see up, and we need to – I didn't know we need the other thing. We need the other thing to be as readily available as the C's are. Let's go ahead and get on it. Can we buy that over the counter? No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought you could only buy one per day. Well, that might be it because, you know, you get so many scumbags out there who crush down pills and cook meth with it. But your Allegra's, your Claritin's, you know, that kind of stuff, you get on it. Those things go boom, boom. Yeah. They go boom, boom big time. Big time, yeah. That's why you got to have your ID readily available when you go to your local CVS.
1:40:10Or when DoorDash arrives. Exactly. Hey, we need to check your ID. Hey, you a fucking scumbag eating to cook meth with this? No? Okay, let me see your ID. Let me scan that. You'll be good. It's pretty wild what these meth chemists have been able to create into things. Yeah. Like, there's just the weirdest things you go to buy at a store, and they'll be like, you need an ID. I'm like, what are we talking about? They're like, some of these psychos. Sudafed's locked up now. You can barely get Sudafed. Uh-huh. Man. That's meth. Takes a lot of breaking, man. Obviously, out here in Indiana, yeah, bingo.
1:40:39Out here in Indiana, you know, I don't know. In Pittsburgh, there's a lot of meth. I don't think there was a lot of meth in Pittsburgh, at least from my understanding. I think it was other drugs of choices that were kind of being used. Out here in Indiana, though, there is, you know, country, a little bit more meth-y. Oh, yeah. You know, so my first couple years out here, you just hear about something just blowing up. Yep. And it's like, what was it? Like a gas leak or something? You're like, well, kind of, I guess, yes. A guy named Jackson, rest in peace, he was cooking up some real shit. He had all this stuff, and that thing just blew up.
1:41:06And it's like right in the middle of, like, a town. They turn these houses into these entire kind of meth shops, and they're just kind of chasing it for a bit. That's scary stuff. So we need the meth... We need the ingredients to meth, but need not make meth. Correct. Or a lot of ID-ing. We're going to have to do a lot of IDs. A lot of ID - checking. We're going to get through football season, though, with perfect voices. I mean, I already started to have it, so I guess I'm already being defeated, potentially. Look at that. Look at that. A quick... And you're back. You're right, Andy. here yeah so you know how about saturday morning in eugene i woke up and it was not there and i was like whoa what why is this happening out of nowhere i got in um i watched kenny chesney before one of his shows he had like a uh like one of those nyquil steamers vaporizer thing yeah like a vaporizer and he like was like breathing that air in you know and i was like oh this is a good idea because that's probably he goes i have no idea if it works i've just been doing it for like 20 the ears or whatever i'm like sounds like a good idea so i remember that from that moment saturday morning i wake up in eugene nothing i'm like whoa i don't have a cough i don't have any i don't feel sick where did you go like where have you been i've just been talking a regular amount i turned on that vaporizer thing and i was just huffing that thing for like an hour and a half straight just down in this stuff water dripping off face on to close sitting there doing notes shooting myself in the face with it still lost my voice i don't know if it works 100 of the time it's kind of the worry we got to beat this fall though we will beat this fall oh yeah did we beat the technical problems never did no hey i'll tell you what signet is too electric you can't just put a microphone in front of him expect it not to pop out on that note let's move along uh some takeaways takeaways can't have signet next to any electronic equipment because he's too damn electric he'll pop out all the systems that's what we just learned bingo i'll tell you i've never been more sure of in Indiana Hoosier football run than I am now.
1:43:00Modern technology can't handle Signetti. That sounds like a problem for everybody on the football field. Let's do some takeaways, shall we, from week six of the NFL season. A. Kusch joins us every single Wednesday, and we're thankful for him. What day is it, A. Kusch? It's Wednesday. It's hump day. Hump day. Baby. Hump day. Guy tore his meniscus standing up off the couch yesterday. Today he will tell us his top takeaways from week six of the NFL season. Mile-high maulers. Let's talk about this Broncos defense. Nine sacks from this last week. Net negative passing yards and pressured on 50 % of the rush.
1:43:37Let's watch Zach Allen. Wow. Just push, pull, gets the pressure. By the way, the more I watch the film, Zach Allen's the guy that's popping off this tape, making this whole thing go. Let's watch this one right here. He's going to slant inside. Take two. Franklin Myers comes around, causes the pressure. He doesn't make the play, but guess who does? Cooper. Jonathan Cooper off the edge. Wow, that's a good name. Hey, I'm happy you pulled that because you said guess who it was? We did not know. I looked around the room. I saw a lot of people that did not know, AJ. Benito. I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it.
1:44:03I was waiting for it. Okay, I like that. Hey, AJ, you'll like this. Check out this coffeehouse stunt right here. What's a coffeehouse? Number 40 fakes like he does it. Comes around. Causes the pressure. Look at Zach Allen again. Gets his hands on the football. Big Zach Allen's having a monster year. And then, oh, Olufoshano. Hey, let's try and block this freak off the edge, Nick Benito. Guess what? Get out of your stance. Nope. Here he goes. Look at that get-off. Right around the corner. I mean, these guys were just getting, I mean, causing havoc all game long. Vance Joseph, D coordinator, been a head coach before.
1:44:34A lot of people assume he's going to be a head coach again. He's been around a long, long time. Now, he's getting taken care of by the Walton family that owns the Broncos, and we thought that could have been an advantage for Sean Payton and maybe why he chose to go to Denver is because there is no salary cap for how much you can pay the coaches. So you can keep a great staff around if they don't want to go on to be head coaches. Vance has been there for a while now. Yeah. And they've been great for a long time. I don't think they are the team we need to be putting in London games, okay, to introduce our sport to another group.
1:45:02But they have been dominant for a long time with Vance back there. What is it about it? Obviously the players are great. What is it about that scheme that makes it so damn great? I mean, in my opinion, coaches are great, but you got to start – it always starts with the players because you have the scheme. But these guys being pros, being able to go out there and execute it and adjust on the fly and get that shit done. And on the flip side of that, like, just watch it, Justin Fields. And I know this was his worst game by far. Could anybody have played quarterback behind? Like, was it more the defense or the offensive line just shit in the bed as well?
1:45:33Their line's actually been decent this year. But, I mean, just look what they're doing. I mean, that push-pull in the first play by Zach, he was dominant in this game. He jumped off the tape. I actually called JJ. I'm like, why did the Cardinals not re-sign him? He was like, a couple injuries, a couple things didn't happen. But then Vance gets him. But here's what's interesting about Vance is he's always been known as a pressure guy. He's sending cover zero from anywhere on the field. And now he has four really good pass rushers, and he doesn't need to do that every play. Good cover guys, too.
1:45:58What's the second takeaway from Week 6, A.Q.? Nick Herbig wreaks havoc. What up, Ouse? Herbig's a weapon. His hands, too, look spectacular from the highlights we saw. Really good. And we got a couple of those highlights. Let's take a look here. This is the first time you've had all three pass rushers together. Watt, Highsmith, and Herbig. and they lined him up over the center right there. Let's go to the next one. Should have been a first down. You're saying PFF. That was a good play by him, actually. Watch him beat the center here. Watch this. Boom. Over top of the center. He's gone. Hit on the quarterback.
1:46:28David just got out quick. I was going to say, football's gone, too. Yeah, that's just a good scheme. Next play. Lines up over the guard. They're lining him up all over the place, which they're not doing with the other end. Over the guard. Boom. Quick beat outside. Again, hit on the quarterback. Again, it's a pass completed, but he's doing his job. First time. I'm showing the versatility here. It's very PFF of you. Yeah, well, now let's show him on the edge here. Let's get to the edge. Watch this inside move. Watch him lift with his inside hand. Boom, lift up underneath. Okay, there it is. There it is.
1:46:57That's a good play. Big one. That's a good play. He had a lot of good plays. He did. He had a lot. He shows not to show him. We got another one. We got another one. Let's watch him here. Outside, not go inside. Go outside, run around. Another sack. Herbig is a dog. Okay, what you just did was lay out the argument exactly for PFF. Okay, so let me get this straight. hey, we're showing highlights players, but they're still – the pass is getting off and it's dropping. Everything's happening about that. I didn't know that was the impossible PFF guy on the right says. Well, see. Okay, then he follows up with saying, well, yeah, that's why we gave Herbig 94.8 PFF rating he had this weekend because of everything you just said.
1:47:28And you can win an assignment. You can win an assignment, right? And then – The difference is he's getting a stat. That's still a hit on the quarterback. Myles Garrett was nowhere near the quarterback. They literally kept him out of the game plan. He was three guys to him, chipping, sliding two. He wasn't even getting near the quarterback. Yeah, but, you know, that's because he was winning his assignment. Yeah, since we're here, do you know what his pass rush win rate percentage was or no? Is it ESPN or PFF? Which one are we asking? Both of them use shitty stats. Whoa! These stats matter. Yeah, stats matter.
1:48:05All I know is the state. Thank you. Holy shit, man. I would like to say this. Hembo's stats are amazing. We love them. We think stats do have a good purpose. Yeah, and Hembo still does send us some stuff sometimes like, okay, dude, that's not real. Yeah, and we don't tell him that, but we should maybe let him know more often that, hey, some of these, like, we can't be doing it. The kid knows. Yesterday I started thinking about this because some of the stats came over, and Hembo's phenomenal. He's won awards for everything that he's done. He's incredible for us, very nice to us, and he sends us stats that make us much better.
1:48:34It's not just us. He makes a lot of people better on TV. But, like, stats people have become like lawyers. Like lawyers do stuff that you have to hire a lawyer to read what the other lawyer, they keep each other employed. Okay. They might be against each other in this particular case, but you're going to have to hire a lawyer to read what this lawyer said. It's like kind of we're in this game. Stats people, it's getting to the point where you're going to have to hire a stats person to break down what stat is being said by the stat person. So now stat people are keeping stat people employed because it's both ends, giving them and breaking them down.
1:49:07And I respect the hustle. I certainly do. but any of the ones that I don't understand I'm out on. Acronyms get me. The EPA one is just I don't fully everyone just assumes they know what they're talking about too. I feel like no one wants to say hey I don't want to sound dumb but what does that mean? And I think people just act like they know what it is and not many people know what they're talking about. Yeah and we would like to say once again to the stats community there's a lot of positives that have come to our sport via the stats community. We are very thankful. But sometimes just like we sometimes just like us you do a little bit too.
1:49:38You go a little bit too. far. Sure. And we just need to abuse leads to restriction. You're getting the public restriction done now. Chris Long is going in. J.J. Watt very passionately doing his thing. A.J. Hawk even. Guy on the right I think made a good he tweeted. He tweeted us. I don't know if he's a former scout. His name is Trevor Sycamore. Okay. Trevor Sycamore. He's Tampa Bay Trey. So he's down in a bay. We got a lot of respect for Tampa Bay Trey. He said, Pat, first love the show. Y 'all change the game. Okay. Appreciate the guy showing a full clip of our show for context. Happy to come on any time y 'all want to have me talk grades, process, transparency, guy on right.
1:50:15We might do that, actually. That would be a fun little game. And it feels like Tampa Bay Trey, guy on right, probably the right guy to do it. Because at least he gave a full, actual, coherent answer. Like, hey, this was actually a compliment to the Steelers' offense as opposed to a shot at TJ Watt or anything like that. So I respect it. No, I think it was wrong, but we still respect it. Alright, what's the last takeaway? Is that what it is? Stats are coming under fire right now? No, it's scatter. Boom! Favorite one of the week. And this guy right here, you don't need stats. You don't need stats for this guy.
1:50:49You know why? All you got to do is watch this tape. Let's take a look at him. Take this inside hand off. Downhill. Look at Cooper DeGene come over to the top. Boom! Fall down. Every single person that runs into him hits the ground on their back. Let's look at the next one. All pro, Zach Bond. You see him in the middle of the field. Over the top. Take the pitch. Get downhill. Don't go out of bounds. Find somebody. Throw his ass on the ground. And then the last one. Yeah, you can't measure heart. Gets hit behind the line and scrimmage down on the goal line. Keep your feet moving. Strain. Get in the end zone.
1:51:19Never goes down. Never die attitude. AJ, what are your thoughts on Scataboom? I mean, I love the dude. I absolutely love why. He's a true, like, show that to kids. Show that to every kid. Hey, you think you're playing hard? You think you're running hard? This is what running hard is. This guy is getting the most out of every single time he touches the ball. And what's awesome, when he doesn't have the ball, he's blasting dudes. He's a great blocker as well. Obviously, he's got to have been a real spark plug for that whole organization I feel like. And we're all interested to see if he can maintain this.
1:51:51You know, like in college, it was spectacular. Juco, awesome. High school, incredible. Then the question was, can he do this in the NFL? We, after seeing the size of his head and the way he operates and getting a chance to learn about him, we assumed it would have success. He is having massive success and he's playing the exact same way he has played on every football field his entire life guys might be bigger guys might be faster there might be more lights on him right now but he's playing the same exact way does it last can it last we hope so we fucking hope so it is awesome football debunk low man wins the football he's built you know like i forget which running back it was maybe yesterday aj was talking about but like those mike turner type built running backs.
1:52:31Those are the worst backs to try to tackle because they have built their leverage. He is like a Mike Allstock and one of our former teammates, Ahmad Bradshaw, just hybrid right into one and he plays his ass off. But yeah, I'm a little concerned about his long jibs. Well, also, Jackson Dartu is getting in on the action. He's just dolphins. He just did a dolphin. Just starting quarterback in the NFL. Run. Send it. Just head first into another guy's head and then him and scadaboo headbutt each other all the time yeah helmets on and helmets off it's like what a perfect duo for dable we're excited about it and that was scatter boom thank you for your takeaways our three will be on the other side digitally we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living we'll see you tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life goodbye I think we really hit it.
1:53:28Boom. Nailed it. That was a good takeaway. Great takeaway. Thank you. Thank you. Takeaway. Did you guys see Chuck Pagano was talking to the media? Certainly. I didn't get a chance to hear it all or listen to it all, but I'm sure there's. What? Is he moving up? What do you mean moving up? Is he taking over the defense? Whoa. Jeez. Come on. Calling for guys. We don't know, but there's a lot of people talking about that in this Thunderdome over the last couple of weeks. It's like, holy shit. What if Chuck Pagano is fucking calling plays in just a matter of time? He goes from sitting on our show, you know, talking about waffling a little bit and what happens whenever he goes home to sweet Miss Tina, and then all of a sudden he's calling defense for the Baltimore Ravens, who are still in it, okay?
1:54:08They have been absolute ass. Terrible. Coming out of the bye week, though, there's a chance they can still go on a run, and they're going to need their defense to get a lot better. Last year, week 10, I think they had one of the worst defenses in the league. Then they were able to turn around down the long haul there, and it's like, is this the team that's going to be able to do the same thing or are the Baltimore Ravens just wasting a year here? You know? Yes. Is this just a wasted year? Like the Niners last year, wasted year just because of injuries and things that don't go your way. The Ravens had the top seven highest paid guys not playing in one game in the first five weeks of the season.
1:54:38That sucks. I mean, that fucking sucks. Six or seven guys. Seven. Top seven highest paid guys. This is how our team's going to be built. we're gonna we're gonna jeez that thing really came on nice how you doing love love here's our here's how we're gonna build our team okay here's our highest paid guy obviously we want him to have success here's our second highest paid guy we want him to feed into this we want to take it seventh highest paid guys the most important guys to your roster literally that decision has been made financially that this is what you're going to focus on all of them out so now you just move this up.
1:55:15It's like this early to have that much bad luck whenever it comes in. You lose five out of the top seven highest paid guys. It's a story. You lose four out of the top seven highest paid guys. Three! It's a huge story. Seven guys all out at the same time. It's like football gods are seemingly not on the Ravens' side this year. AJ. They got time, though. I mean, they don't have much time, but they have time. They can turn around, for sure. Especially if Chuck shot you're giving it. Yeah, bingo. Belgian pretzel. They only have five AFC North games left. they're gonna need Steelers to do something Joe Flacco better not get hot.
1:55:51No. Let's get a hammer. Don, don. Talman seems real worried about Flacco. I don't love that. Do you? He was real worried about him last year, too. I think you guys won, right? Or no, did we? I mean, that was the first time Colts won in 13 years against Steelers, I believe. Oh, that was last year? He was a little worried last year about it. And now he's all of a sudden worried about it. He was right. He's a smart coach. He's a smart guy. But I don't like him acting like we haven't beat Joe Flacco in the playoffs like six times and stuff. Oh! Come on. Let's just go on. He's doing the old Bill Belichick, though.
1:56:18He's just pumping up the opposing. We are on Cincinnati. That is correct. So, yeah. Playoff wins weren't on Thursday. 0-6 against the division on Thursday night. Is that what you said? Yeah, that is correct. And all it tells me is we shouldn't be playing football games on Thursdays. Yeah, certainly if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, you're thinking that. And if you're the Cincinnati Bengals, you go, hey, these guys suck on Thursdays. Yeah. But is this a different year because Aaron's there? Yeah. Yes. Jalen's there on the other side. Yes. Remember Jalen on the pivot said, hey, once I learned why Aaron's doing all this, I was all in.
1:56:50I was a boy because we're kind of seeing it the same way. It's like they got a lot of spite seemingly on that team over there. Thursday night, Sunday, pretty quiet too, hasn't it? It's been pretty quiet out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It has. Very much, I think. Don't you think nationally especially? It's definitely been quiet with them, how they've started off and how well they've played. Kind of locked in. You know, in these games that they're playing very well, obviously we're talking about. Thursday night primetime game, they put a drumming on the Cincinnati Bengals. Everybody starts talking about the Steelers.
1:57:16They moved to 5-1 if that's the case. Steelers are a really good football team. and they just have not gotten the attention because it doesn't look pretty. It's muddied up. It's gritty. It's extra O-line package. Nothing's pretty, and then they're hitting short pass, short pass, short pass. Every once in a while he hits the little chunk play. But because it's not pretty, it's not getting the national attention. And Aaron Rodgers is also ranked like the 38th quarterback, too. So I think that's good. Wait, you're saying PFF? Come on. 39th, actually. 39? How many teams are playing? What leagues? They brought in the UXFL?
1:57:46Yeah, the UXFL. That can't be real. 39 UXFL. That should be the name, bro. I saw Rapine. What's his name? Oh, Rapoli? Rapol. There it is. I saw Rapol. I'm going to say Rapina. World champion. She may be an investor. We don't know. We don't know. Rapol? Yeah, Mike Rapoli. Rapoli said, hey, we're going to work on Brandon or whatever. We helped you, brother. It should be UXFL. Boom. Done. He put the ox in football, bro. That's what we need. We need the UXFL to do a thing. 39th, you said, is Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, I looked it up this morning. What? He has been absolutely perfect, though, for this team.
1:58:24Has it been flashy? No. But he's been so smart and does the right thing with the ball almost every single time. And then, yes, when you need those three-step shot plays, he's been perfect on it. He has been the absolute perfect quarterback so far. Who's behind him? Who's ranked behind him then? The guy right behind him was Mason Rudolph. How many were qualifiers? Yeah. I don't know how many qualifiers there are. So like 39 out. What's the denominator? You know the denominator. I'll pull it up. How many backup quarterbacks have we even had? So Browning, Carson Wentz. Browning was ahead of him at one point in their rankings.
1:59:00Jacoby's definitely ahead of him, I bet. Cooper Cush. Good game. Hey, Jacoby had a good game. If Cooper Cush is in front of him, then someone naturally should. He had a pretty good game on Sunday. He was like 15 for 40-something. Snoop. Yeah, but his assignments. No, you're right. You're right. Hurt. Three-step. Yeah, you're right. Did Dylan Gabriel have a higher rating than he did on Sunday? I mean, there's a chance, once again, because he had perfect right here. And then ball elevated above shoulder. Wasn't sloppy down here. That's two points. It was up here. No interceptions. And then as he scanned, he seemingly went from his proper progressions, which, once again, PFF would not know.
1:59:39Two points, two points. Yep, exactly. Two points, two. And then actually got to the four one time, which is bonus ball. Yep. You know that? I think it was fine. And then his motion was good transfer of weight. Yep. So he went to his fourth progression bonus ball, good transfer of weight, good form. It was an incomplete, but it could have been caught. If it's a completion, it's a two-times multiplier. Well, it was an incompletion, so they missed out on that and actually made a sound whenever the ball was dropped because the ball was actually on fire after all those things happened. And then the ball drops and hits the ground.
2:00:12So his assignment, actually, we saw all of it. Dylan Gabriel was actually 44th. Okay, so maybe what I just said wasn't about Dylan Gabriel. That was about another quarterback. But, you know, there are a lot of quarterbacks. Who's one? Who's number one? Who's number one? Sam Darnold. Who's number 50? Cam Ward. Cam Ward, yes. Where's Flacco? Joey Flacco is currently 32nd. Oh, so he's out playing Rodgers? Anthony Richardson, 31. Good call. Those knees, when he came in the game and took those knees. Well, he threw a completion to himself. Yeah. Should be one. CJ Stride is 30th. Where's Drake May? I hope he better not be on this list.
2:00:55Drake's number five. Shit. Get him off. Can we scroll up or no? It's two screenshots. Two separate screenshots. Oh, there it is. Sam Donald is number one. Here we go. Here's the tops. Sam Donald, number one. Marcus Mariota. He played well. Okay. Holy shit. Drake Mays number five overall, dude. Yeah, get him off because, I mean, Davis Mills is better than him. I don't know why he's ahead of him. Dougie Mills is a player. Obviously, he's better than Josh. Is this real? Like, are we really – whatever. What's that? This is real, bro. What do you mean? Connor, this is real. He's a rankings, bro. You've got number five quarterback.
2:01:32I'm a huge fan. I am. Number five. BTT. Yeah, no, I'm a big BTT. BTT percentage? Yeah, no, I like it. All right. Those are big time throws. Good luck to everybody. Good luck to everybody being better. And hopefully the PFF overlords will see you as a success story in your assignments as opposed to a failure in your assignments. J.J. Watt was the best of all time, they said. And he hates them. That was crazy. He got real upset. Oh, yeah, big time. He got super-duper upset. I mean, Davis Mills, if he doesn't get a$250 million contract, should sue the NFL. All right, let's do our top five offensive line, shall we?
2:02:09We don't know what PFF's saying, but we do know what's coming from the mind of the man behind in the trenches with A.Q. Shipley. Top five performing offensive lines out of week six. Number five. Wow. The Chicago Bears. Whoa. What did they do? Let's take a look at Darnell Wright, their big right tackle. If you remember a couple years ago when we did the draft special, I was demonstrating Darnell Wright right there. Oh, yeah. Top ten pick out of Tennessee. Pulls around. But check it out. Zaccheaus misses his pin block right there. Now watch Darnell. put it back on. Zaccheaus back up underneath. Darnell still gets the block, and this was big time to get the big run in the fourth quarter to seal it, to get down, run the clock down, kick the game winner.
2:02:51So left-handed stiff arm to a guy's chest just to make up for a buddy who missed a block. And then let me get downfield a little bit. Let me slow you down, and then let me bury you out of the play with a little bit of a hold, but they're not going to call it so it's a touchdown. That's exactly right. Not a touchdown, but a success. A successful play. He's fantastic, and he was fantastic this whole game. They have been waiting for him to show up like this, and he really did this week. All right, who's number four performing offensive line coming out of week six? Whoa! Los Angeles Chargers. Ran for 124 yards at 6.9 yards per clip.
2:03:22Let's take a look at the left side. See this little tight end wing formation? That's a wide receiver. Trey Harris out there, and they are setting it up like they're running downhill. You get a 6-1 defense. Everyone piled inside. They think it's downhill run. Nope, let's toss it. Is that a big gaping hole? That's a lot of meat out there, AJ. What do you got to do? It is. If you run that back, AQ, they've had to practice. Look at this left tackle. How does he not step on the tight right there? They've had to get stepped on and stomped on, and that would ruin the whole play. They have such tight splits in their footwork.
2:03:56So they motioned Trey Harris down because they had run duo, duo, duo. They made it look like they were just going to Z-peel. That's what that's called. They Z-peel, run duo, and then super tight splits. All you have to do, they call this a gang on the outside. Everybody's working poetry in motion with those three guys. You got set an edge here. You got set an edge here. You got set an edge on all four guys? What are you doing? You coming in from the outside? Unfortunately, though, they took a lot of our power. We need a quarter to go to their outside in and chop all of that down and take three people out and create a pile, and they can't do it anymore.
2:04:25Yeah, if you run it back to the beginning, it's exactly what AJ is talking about, 26 out here. wide, he needs to run right at nine's outside knee and just create a power right there and then let everybody run inside. I mean, I don't know if it would have helped on this play. What was his third and short? Third and one. Third and one. So like you said, thinking it's going to be a short inside play getting out to the edge. But yeah, with no power like that, we just will extend those holes wider and wider. What do you want for a 142 or something, Vidal? 124. 18 for 124. 6.9 per clip. Hell of a...
2:04:56They got it set up over there. They got injuries. They're just continuing to roll. Is Harbaugh finding it? You know what they did? What's that? They went fullback again this week. Remember early in the year? It was all, hey, let's showcase Herbert. Let's pass, pass, pass. They got back playing fullback, tight end, all the stuff this week. They played the Dolphins, too. That didn't hurt. Well, the Dolphins are certainly making superstars out of other players, and we appreciate that. The number three offensive line? I don't know how this works. The Indianapolis Colts are the best offensive line cumulative for the year, but for this week, number three.
2:05:23Okay, so best offensive line. I like that. So coming out of another big-time win, obviously a shootout against the Arizona Cardinals, which you were on the call for, you have a number three, not a number one. I'm intrigued to see why they're doing so well and why they're not one. They got one guy in this group that's a little bit below par amongst the rest of the group. The other four have been playing fantastic. But let's take a look at the left side. These guys are fantastic. Raymond, let's watch his down block. The footwork is impeccable. Watch him keep the edge. And look at Quentin Nelson out in space.
2:05:49Rumbling, bumbling. Boom. Jonathan Taylor is fantastic. Hey, leads the league in rushing. Obviously, the Colts' offensive line's doing well. Danny Dimes putting him in the right positions. And Quentin Nelson's been moving a lot more. Isn't that kind of what you've been noticing? A lot more pulls. He's pulling across the formation in your power schemes, your counter schemes, and all that stuff. And they're getting a lot more of this stuff right now. Pin and pull, and they love what Tyler Warren's doing on the edge. Yeah, Tyler Warren's special. They've got him lined up absolutely everywhere. So, obviously, like this play, is there any other great plays on this offensive line that we need to see?
2:06:18Indianapolis Colts? Yeah. Yeah, I think I put one on my Twitter. Did you? Yeah. Oh, okay. Let's take a look at Quentin Nelson if we can pull this up somehow in the back there. On your Twitter? Yeah, off my ass. You need to watch posting football clips on your ex, brother. Oh, yeah? I don't know how much you think this umbrella... Don't shut me down. Don't do it. Don't do it. I don't know. Let's not do it. Let's not do it. I don't know how far the licensee kind of goes to. Remember what we used to talk about? Let me target lock right there. Target locked. Don't spin. Yeah, I got... Oh, yes. That should be illegal.
2:06:55Who's that? Quentin Nelson again. Against who? Baron Browning. Pretty good defensive end. Boom. He was so happy there, I assume. He got another one too. Tough time to spend. He had one going outside, and then he has another one later in the game where he goes inside and gets a nose guard. I mean, he is just wrecking ball. I'll talk about this with Quentin Nelson. I've said it before, but it's noted. At least it should be noted again. Ryan Kelly was the OG in the offensive line room. He was the center. Center normally the leader of the group anyway. So the fact is that he was around the longest and he was the center.
2:07:25I think he was ipso facto the leader of the group. He leaves, go to the Vikings. We love Ryan Kelly. Very thankful for everything Ryan Kelly did to Indianapolis. His family is incredible. I think Quentin Nelson felt a little bit more onus to be a leader and a vocal leader. It's been fun watching him take on that role. They've released a lot of mic'd ups, and I think it's getting him back into enjoying ball again. Now, is it the fact that he has a quarterback that understands what the hell he's doing for maybe the first time in a long time in his career? Definitely. but he's chasing the ball down again.
2:07:51That was like early in his career. He was the first person with everybody. He was the first person with everybody. He's all over the place. He's special. Glenn Nelson is special talent. Let's also mention, he was the number one rated guard by PFF this week, and Tanner Bornolini, the center, was the number one rated center. It is a part of the problem. I just saw somebody sent me a picture of it, and I saw it, so I had to bring it up. And I was a scouter, a GM, a CES. We got to continue to have these conversations. Listen, sometimes you got to have awkward conversations with people. That's right.
2:08:18Uncomfortable with you. You're right. Bam. There it is. Sometimes you've got to have uncomfortable conversations with people who maybe don't want to listen. Maybe whenever they hear it, they'll be better for it. That's what's happening with PFF as we speak. Let's go to the number two offensive line coming out of week six. Atlanta Falcons. I've been talking about these guys for a long time. You really have. You have loved the Atlanta Falcons. Why are they on this week? First of all, Chris Lindstrom might be the best right guard in football. He's fantastic. Elijah Wilkinson filling in at right tackle for Caleb McGarry.
2:08:44He handled Joey Bosa all game long. Let's watch these three in the middle. Poetry in motion. Combo up to the second level. Joop, joop, joop. See you later, boys. 81 yards. B. John Robinson had 19 for 170 at 8.9 and a touchdown. The Falcons had 210 yards rushing. Yaya almost takes him out of bounds. Normally that you go out of bounds there. Him keeping his balance is outrageous. That was unbelievable. I wish Bishop would have just dived and just pushed him out of bounds. But you can see B. John keeping his balance. Kind of going. B. John, B. John, however we're going to call it. AQ, I'm not sure if you noticed, but we actually call this 28 blunt.
2:09:18This is a weak side outside zone here. Did you know that, AQ? What did you call it from your tree? We called it blunt as well. Okay. Yeah, and if it's further inside, we call it 24 blunt. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because the way the holes go, obviously, four is inside, outs, outside. And we're talking about weak side, outside zone here. Of course, yeah. You nailed it. Yeah, well, we nailed it. You see the single block on the front side? Oh, I certainly did. You see the slip block on the back side? You see what I'm saying? There was a little slip-dee-woody there. We saw it all, didn't we, D-Buck? We can talk about this for two days now.
2:09:44You're kind of slow, a little late to the party almost, and it's 28. And I see how you're using my man Bruce Arian's term, so that's where we got it from. What? That's where we got it from. Maybe. Bruce who? Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Who's the number one performing offensive line coming out of week six of the NFL season? Wow. The Carolina Panthers. I love this play. This is called Jab Duo. You are going to run a play to the left, but you are going to sell like you're running it to the right. So watch the quarterback open up to the right, over the top ball handling. We're going to bring 87 back across as a fullback, essentially.
2:10:18Let's watch this combo between left tackle, left guard. That's Kenny Clark they're going against. They just took him 12 yards and put him on the ground. We can run that back one more time. Let's watch left tackle, left guard, Damian Lewis and Big Icky, their former first-round picket tackle. Let's watch this. Watch this. Wait for the motion. Look at that. That's Kenny Clark. That's Kenny Clark. Jerry brought him in to stop the run. Can you guys run through that? No. I like the guys that we got up here. We had Maka. We don't have Maka. We tie. We don't win. So what the fuck, Jerry Jones would say.
2:10:50But what the fuck to the Carolina Panthers? Are they a real team? They're a real team. Their offensive line is playing really good, and they're calling the runs. I think early in the season they weren't calling the runs because they were playing from behind a lot. Now they are calling runs, and it is marrying up with the pass game. They're getting some good stuff from left tackle, left guard, all season long. They've been great. The Carolina Panthers are a real team. Let's go. You guys deserve it. Hell yeah. One of the best compliments I heard from Luke Keekly and Jake Delholm, two Panther legends, obviously.
2:11:17I guess they do a radio, do some type of show together, and usually Luke Keekly's up there kind of calling plays out before they happen. Like, you know, Luke Keekly football. And he, like, took the headset off, I guess, this week. He's like, they're confusing me. I don't know what they're running. So he was like, Dave Canales, that was a big hat tip to him. That was one of Jake Delholm's takeaways here. So if they're confusing Luke up in the box. Think about that, though. you're the head coach and the offensive coordinator. The guy that's talking to your crowd, your fans, is Luke Keekly, who is known for just understanding and dissecting everything everybody's doing.
2:11:49You're being judged as predictable because Luke Keekly is focusing solely on your play calling to figure out what you're doing. That's a tough task just to beat the guy in the booth. You're beating the guy in the booth, let alone the other team. Luke Keekly, isn't that what he's known for? He dissected a play quicker than anybody else and knew exactly what was happening at all times and can memorize every single player and their family's name in one week as he's playing him. He's a special talent. But how about that? The Carolina Panthers have completely different vibes all of a sudden, AJ. Yeah, it is different.
2:12:16I mean, if you're the head coach, you're can now just say, hey guys, I understand we have these great legends working, I would assume, the radio call. Why don't you guys watch the TV copy where they're not predicting everything we're doing. It makes us look a little different. Yeah, why don't you let's maybe not bury the guy. Could you not bury me, Luke? I'd appreciate that. They're doing special things. Here's the top five in the trenches with AQ Hugh Shipley of performing offensive lines coming out of week six. The Chicago Bears, congrats to them. Chargers back. Colts, okay. Okay. They're in there.
2:12:45Cumulative. Cumulative, yeah, you're right. And then you'd mention in there one guy needs to go ahead and play at the level of everybody else. He's going to do that. My source says have told me that's the case, so maybe number one outright throughout the rest of the year. Falcons are number two. Carolina Panthers are number one. Congrats to all of them. Thank you, AQ. All right, let's take a break. On the other side, we've got Stanford Steve joining us to talk a little bit about college ball. And then we got Darius Butler, everything DB, good D, bad D. A lot of great shit left, AJ. Can't wait, buddy.
2:13:11I know Stanford Steve, I know he's got some game, like big matchups, right, that he thinks he knows what's going to happen coming up. Nailed it. That is exactly what we're going to do. Well said. I mean, I couldn't have said it better. I actually couldn't have said it better. Poetry in motion. I appreciate you doing that. Yes, it was. And if this goes in to that hoop right there, it's going to be the greatest finish to an hour three that we've ever had. Fuck yeah. Okay.
2:13:36Oh, shit. I think that went in. I think that went in. That went in for my view. Yeah, the net's broken. So it went in? Yeah, it looked like it did. Yeah, D-Bo's been dunking on that one, right? Yeah. It didn't go in, but it went in? Yeah. Killed it. You ball's been good. Congratulations. You guys took back the crown? Congratulations. Congratulations to you guys. They can never take away that first day from you. Never. Good run. Team D, bone and butt, certainly held it down for one day, the first day of the game. And then me and Foxy want to work on day two. We want the better understanding that we can't have what happened happen again.
2:14:13D-Bone can't be... He was so happy. Just glee would be the term. Shorts and a t-shirt ready to go yesterday. Laced up. Was he sore today or not as springy maybe? He didn't recover? So I think his Hail Marys just weren't falling as much as they were. He's going to have to find a consistent, fundamentally sound game. And I think everybody's on their journey of doing that right now with a brand new game. But, boy, D-Bone appeared to be the Wayne Gretzky of the game after day one. Wow. The great one. I mean, it really felt that way. And I honestly didn't know how we were all going to handle it. I assumed that the game was going to get banned if that would continue from the Thunderdome just because of how it was going.
2:14:56And then day two, water found its level. And now he's going to have to battle back. It's a good game, AJ. We've got a good game over here right now. This is enjoyable. Do you have to throw it one-handed or can you shoot it? You can definitely shoot it. Oh, okay. I'll tell you, though. I did some throwing with D-Bone after the games because yesterday I was like, hey, you're going to have to start shooting it, dude. Like, the throwing, it just bends so much. You have no idea where it's going to go. And air balls minus points are, like, detrimental. Killer. It's absolutely killer. So having a good miss is better than an almost air ball.
2:15:26Legit, yes. Like, you don't want that at all in this game. So you're going to – because he has a good jumper. D-Bone has a good – like, a pretty good jumper. So we told him that. And then he just kept throwing, and it was hitting the rim. And then I started throwing hits to the rim. I'm like, wait a minute. He might be onto something here. And then I threw one and hooked, and I missed the entire backboard. I'm like, we can't have that. T-Bone's like, we're getting those out of the game. So today he will battle again, I assume. But the mountaintop has the goats at it. And that'd be me and Foxy.
2:15:55That'd be Foxy. Here we go. Foxy hit one. Last shot of the inning. Two-pointer. The games have been close. Like, it's a great game. T-Bot, do you like the game still? Love the game. I think we walked away yesterday still with a better PFF grade, even though we didn't win. Oh, wow. Offensively, we brought it. There's no YFF here. Okay, there's no U-Ball fantasy football static. I'm going to sit up here and grade it today. You don't even know what the fuck our jobs are, so you don't even know the game. Perfect. No. Perfect for the job. No, you don't even know the game. You can't be doing the judgment.
2:16:29Because me and Foxy might be trying to do a little something out of you. We might be setting up a defensive play for later. So we might miss a tip, but that's actually a setup for later. Of course. So you don't know that. That's why I'm perfect. What if you step on a line, though? We need people looking at the line stepping. Because D-Bone's feet, I think, he's touching the paint a lot. And I don't want to be like, hey, you're cheating every time. Because he's not making it anyway. Also, his feet on defense. I mean, he's on the ground almost every single tip. Needs me in the sky. We've been working on that.
2:17:00Yeah, well, not well. Maybe you shouldn't be coaching Penn State. Let's get to a break. God, I got me fired up thinking about you not knowing the fucking rules of the game, judging this game, giving out official scores, and then that is actually. That's what's going on. We got to get to a break. I got to cool off a little bit. That's too real. Everything just got a little bit too real.
2:17:25We'll see you next time.
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2:18:20Don, Don. Tone Diggs, good to see you, Tone. Hey, B-Tone, we got a big thing about to happen, as you know. It's time to dive into another week of college football convo with Stanford Steve. Yay! Steve-O, we appreciate you taking time. We understand you've been waiting for us. That's 100 % on us, and we got it behind schedule. But we're thankful for you joining us. And we've enjoyed this every single week, get a chance to catch up about ball, but also just catch up with you in general. How you doing, Steve? We're big fans of yours. I'm great. I just got educated for a whole hour. Felt like hearing AQ, hearing you guys talk.
2:18:54I am locked in. I'm usually behind in the NFL prep by this time this week. But hearing AQ, hearing the excitement level and what he's ready to go, you bitching about the Colts being too low. I'm all in for that. Thank you, Stanford Steve. He seems like he also agrees with me, which is why he remembers that. So we need to take that in going forward. They're five and one. Let's never forget it. And they're healthy and they're dominant. and we'll dive into that at another time. Steve, let's talk about college football coming in. We got a huge one happening down there in Georgia. Obviously, we're going down to Athens.
2:19:25There could have been a couple other places, but you got Ole Miss rolling in to a very, very dominating Dogs of Georgia. Steve, what are your thoughts on this game? Yeah, the issue is the Dogs haven't been dominating, Pat, early in these games. You go back last week, down 10-0, almost 16-0 with that fumble and chaos at Auburn. falling behind 14-0 and 21-7 to Alabama at home. They lose that game first time in about 33 home games. You go back, we were at Tennessee. It was 21-7. That place was as loud as any building. George has got to figure out how to start these games better. We're having Kirby on the show.
2:20:02I hope somebody figures out how to – or he explains what's been going on and how he's trying to address it because they've been incredible in these second halves. Last week, the drive to clinch it by Gunnar Stockton was just textbook. I thought Bobo was great. Outside runs, third-down conversions, using their go-to guy, Branch, as a decoy on a big third down, and then they get the brutal touchdown to cover for all those Auburn backers. Georgia is 4-0 as a seven-point favorite against all top five teams under Kirby. So it's up against Ole Miss, who sleptwalked out of a bye. against Washington State watching that game last week, and Trinidad made some plays in the second half, or else they were going to lose that game.
2:20:49So Ole Miss has got to prove it. They gave it to them last year at home in Oxford with a great – you know, we saw how many guys go to the draft from Ole Miss' team, but this is a different test, and I like Georgia's offense when you look at it in its totality. So awesome matchup coming up. Georgia's offense is there whenever they've needed it, and obviously we go back to Tennessee whenever we talk about that because what they did at the end of that game was awesome. What Gunnar did on that fourth down was spectacular. Then they lose to Bama, obviously. They had a 33-game win streak at home. That obviously gets snapped this season.
2:21:18And then the timeout clapping extravaganza last week is obviously fantastic. Let's talk about that Ole Miss team a little bit. Lane Kiffin has another top five team. Let's go to Hammer. Tom, Tom, Tom, what do we need to be thinking about this game and Lane Kiffin's boys? Yeah, to be honest, I don't know if the numbers next to either of these teams are correct. They might be a little too high. I don't think either of these teams have been super aggressive. Yeah, the records are good. But, you know, this might be a little SEC bias in where they were ranked early in the year to where they are now.
2:21:51But, no, I mean, Georgia back between the hedges, they just had their 33-game home win streak snapped. Both these teams are top 25 in rush attempts per game. Now, yards per rush, Georgia is the better team, and they also have the better rush defense. So I think Georgia has the advantage there. But I think overall, both offenses have the advantage. And I want to get this right here. So Georgia is 115th in sacks and 109th in tackles for loss. That's on defense. And then Ole Miss is 100th in sacks and 121st in TFLs, both on defense. So neither one of these defenses are causing havoc up front. So I think offenses are going to have their way in this one.
2:22:29Okay, so that's an exciting shootout, you know, between Trinled and Gunner. Georgia against the spread the last two seasons. Here's Hembo's stats. Overall, 6-14. Favorites, 4-13. At home, they're 2-8. This is against the spread. Not straight up. This is just whenever they have to cover. You said whenever they're favorites of seven or more, they win or whatever. They don't win for the betters, though, it sounds like. They don't win for the betters. What other game were you looking at this weekend, brother Steve? The Seaguar game. Bama and Tennessee. Tennessee, since we've been there, has won every game by one possession.
2:23:05Overtime in Starkville. They let Arkansas come in the back door last week at home off of a bye. And Alabama's the hottest team in the country. Ty Simpson has been spectacular. I think Grubb and Kalen go for it on third and longs, fourth and longs. The defense steps up and holds Ahmad to 52 yards rushing, I believe. So that was really good to see in a tricky spot, an 11 a.m. kick. Their defense showing out and shutting down the nation's leading rusher. Tennessee has really fallen off defensively, giving up a ton of points lately, and that Alabama offense matches up really well. Tennessee, I'm not sure if they're going to get those corners back.
2:23:49They were talking about them when we were there. They're still not back. One of them is an NFL player in McCoy. So I think this leans Alabama, night game, night show, fireworks, the whole thing, plenty of points scored in this game. Okay, we have another stat from Hembo, and Bruce just pointed out some mean stats here from Hembo. Heupel is a three-plus point road dog. Zero and six, win-loss straight up. Zero and six, obviously, against the spread. Average score, 37-18. Yikes. Every loss by is 14-plus points. So if they're supposed to lose by more than three, it's going to happen, is what these stats are saying.
2:24:27Don't love that Hembo's saying that. That could change this year, though. Let's go to Hammer. Toner, Toner, what's up with these Hembo stats, and how much are you looking into them? Yeah, I mean, hey, they're trends, and once trends happen, they're hard to kick. We've seen that all season long. And Heupel, yes, away from Tennessee has been, you know, it's kind of been the story of Tennessee. They haven't really been able to win the big one yet under Heupel. They got Bama a couple years ago, but that was at Tennessee. As Steve said, I think the Bama offense is going to be able to do whatever they want, especially Ty Simpson in the passing game.
2:25:03I believe Tennessee's like 120th or something like that as far as against the pass. So I don't think that Bama offense is going to have any issue. And then on the other side of the ball, if Bama is going to have an issue, Tennessee runs for over 200 yards a game. If there has been a question mark with the Bama defense, it's been the run game. We've said that the last three weeks. but they've handled it pretty well, especially last week against Hardy and Mizzou. So, yeah, Bama could potentially roll in this line. Steve, what the hell is going on with Ryan Williams? What are you hearing down there, Barry?
2:25:32Where is he? I don't know if he's as motivated as he used to be. Oh, no! Steve-O! We all know. It's PFF. I keep hearing about how much money he's making. That's all. Hardy's got a real nice house and set up. He's earned that with his abilities, and we appreciate him. And obviously we hope he continues to live up to all the talent that he has and the expectations. But you're right, Ty Simpson's become the story, not the young wide receiver who's insane. Who's number one for them? Horton. Miami. Isaiah? Horton, yeah. He was. Him and Jeremy. Look at that ball placement right there. Come on. That's unguardable.
2:26:13Yeah, you call them the hottest team in the country, Indiana would say, uh-uh. Really? Not so fast, huh, Steve? I didn't say best. I didn't say best. Indiana's the best. Well, and also the hottest then, right? Wouldn't they be the hottest team as well? Eh, they had a long flight home. You know, a lot of time to cool down. Hey, there's a time out. Yeah, they passed the ball away. Okay, check ball, check ball. Got to move to the next one. That's awesome. Let's go to the next game. Stanford, Steve, we need to be paying attention to. Ooh, old rivalry. Yeah, we just touched on the SEC where it means more.
2:26:43I think this game means the most this weekend in week eight. Notre Dame's last stand for a ranked win. They don't have anybody on the schedule that resembles a ranked team the rest of the way. Maybe Pittsburgh, but we don't like talking about Pitt on this show. So USC comes in red hot. Red hot and very dangerous. We were talking about Pitt a little bit earlier. It was about them getting a new stadium. They had a great win this week at Florida State. Hey, go Pitt. And if that would have been on the slate, I would like to let you know I would have picked Pitt to win that game because that does feel like a Narduz win type thing.
2:27:18You know, pretty pitch. Sure. We just think, you know, stadium setup needs to change. Maybe we could go to Pittsburgh for Notre Dame when they go there. You never know. I don't know. Maybe. That would be awesome, actually. Won't go to the Holy War, but yeah, let's go to Pitt. I'll tell you what. This would have been a game I think a lot of people thought maybe game day would head to. And once again, I can't stress this enough. The fact that I am lucky enough, and I assume Steve says the same thing, to be a part of a show that people would like to see at their events, you know, that is a very cool thing.
2:27:45We are very lucky to be a part of that. So anytime there's anger from anybody that our show doesn't go somewhere or that game day goes somewhere, we understand the magnitude of how cool it is to be a part of something that has that effect on people. Obviously, it's been this way long before I got there and Steve got there. It'll be long after I and Steve leave. This will be a thing. This is, we're very lucky to be a part of game day. This game, everybody thought could potentially have it. And I assume the next game we're going to talk about, the holy war out there in BYU. This could have been an epic college game.
2:28:19Not that Georgia Ole Miss won't be. Okay, obviously huge implications. Nine versus five. Honored, lucky to be down there. Used to have the longest home winning stretch at 33 games. Tough place to play. Obviously a lot of history. And in the middle of a dynasty still, if they were to go on to win, people would lump this all together for Kirby Smart. Lucky to be going down there. This place though, I think would have shut down the whole state if we were to went out there. It means something too. this year. 6-0, 5-1. He got real playoff implications. This is big. I love that we got Bear versus Dampier.
2:28:50I love the storylines that are coming, and I like how good both these teams are, Steve. Yeah, Utah has proved it. 3-0 against the spread as a road favorite, which is tough to do in this day and age of college football. BYU came back from the dead last week late night in Tucson. Comes back, goes to overtime, wins it. Bear Bachmeier, The Mormons stole him from Stanford. It's still tough to watch him play for BYU, but we're moving on. And plenty at stake. What do we got? Fourth time both teams in this rivalry are ranked in all since 1994. So there's not a lot of times this game has meant this much.
2:29:26We know how much they hate each other. Both head coaches went to BYU. Whittingham won a national championship when he was at BYU. And now he's the head coach of Utah and had a serious run in that state. So the hatred is real. I love genuine hatred. There's nothing better. But Utah feels verified being a road favorite here, seeing what they're up against. Okay, and that's potentially because of what BYU looked like for most of that game last week. Obviously, you've got to take everything into account. Kyle Whittingham's career record versus BYU. I don't know if you saw these numbers. Obviously, Whittingham, BYU alum.
2:29:58Kyle Whittingham showed up at our show whenever we were out there on a motorcycle and sleeveless. So it was cool. Pretty sweet. Yeah, it was pretty sick, Kyle Whittingham. He's 11-5 win-loss record against BYU, which is also 11-5 against the spread. 5-1 against the spread versus a ranked BYU team. And 13 of 16 games have been decided by single digits. So it's a good battle. It's going to mean something. And that would have been – that could have been what they call scenes. Yeah, biblical. Actually, holy war. Yeah. I guess it could have been pretty biblical out there. Tone, anything we're missing on the holy war?
2:30:31No, you guys touched on it. We should ask the West Virginia head coach. He played both teams. We got his pick. That's true. We play a lot of tough teams. They're both good football teams. Good football. Ohio University with Navarro. That's a good football team. Pitt is a good football team. A lot of good football teams West Virginia knows the ins and outs about. You know what I mean? I don't need to hear anything from you. I don't need to hear anything. Northwestern and UCLA, great team. Great football teams. Tough to play Northwestern at home. Tough to travel. Tough to play Northwestern at home.
2:31:03Because they come in there and you just think to yourself, It's Northwestern. Yeah, here come the Wildcats. Kings are big. And I don't even know. Did you guys fill up for Northwestern at home? Did you see the pictures of the stadium? No, I didn't see. Did you guys not go? You were at the White House. Nice end zone. There might have been about half that. Oh, no. Oh, really? Oh, no. I mean, I bet it was$75 ,000,$80 ,000. Oh, shit. When's the last time that happened? Has that ever happened before? I don't know if that's ever happened. What? Hold on. I didn't know I just opened a story that I should definitely known about.
2:31:33So, you guys didn't fill that thing up for that game? Not even close. I've never heard of that at Penn State. Really? Someone put a still shot of, like, before the whiteout and then, like, right before. Okay, so this might be it. This is during the game? No, this was. Yeah, well, right as it's ending. What's the score? Is this end of game? Yeah, it's when they're taking a knee. Okay, so end of game's tough because 100-some thousand potentially want to get out of there. Hard to get out of there. Can we get one from earlier? Yeah, there was one, like, before the game. There was one right before the whiteout against Oregon and then won right before the Northwestern, and it was night and day.
2:32:08Wow. No pun intended. It's because you lose to UCLA the week before or because you lose to Oregon a week before that? Two in a row, early game, but it wasn't. No. 330, yeah. 330. Yeah, plenty of time. It was bad. They were done. The fans made the decision already. I think the UCLA thing really sent the fans over the edge. How about that, Steve? Penn State. Franklin walked out there, saw an empty stadium, and go, no, that's not good. Right? I mean, that is not good. He made comments before the game. He's like, we've prepared the team for booze and a hostile environment for a home game. I would like to reiterate this 100 times.
2:32:49James Franklin has been very good to us and always had great energy with us. He was great to that program. Great. Turned you guys around. Turned us around. Kept us there when it was in the depths of hell. And he'll be remembered as that guy? For sure. It's a results-driven business, period. In the moment, though, it's not thinking like that. Correct. But five years from now, looking back, James Franklin had a vital piece in the Penn State story. There's going to be a lot of gratitude towards him, without question. And he'll say thank you to the$49 million I've got since I've been there. And also, I agree, we did some good things there.
2:33:20It's not just negative. That'll be a good time for Coach Franklin. Absolutely. I mean, I think he's third over the last 10 years in most wins across college football. Yeah. Gosh. It's a tough game. I think that's why he got fired, right? Because he's third in wins, but he's never. I bet those other coaches on that list have national championships. Well, not only national championships, it's like a big win. Signetti going into Oregon and winning that game? For sure. On the same. This guy's beating Oregon and you can't fucking beat Northwestern. Hit the bricks, pal. That is basically. I think that is potentially what happened.
2:33:56And they had to travel. And he was blaming travel the week before. Tough. Oh, my gosh. That is a lot. All right, Stanford, Steve, anything else? No, I was just saying, you were doing your show from his office like 20 days ago. Yeah. And they were on top of the world, up seven in overtime. Coach Saban puts a white suit on and gives that fan base a funeral for their season. Jeez. I don't know. Well, maybe Lanning, a little offspring, I guess, from Saban. There were certainly some seeds of success there that were planted for Lanning, maybe in that Oregon team. But, yeah, we were just feet away from JJ.
2:34:31Yeah, that's right. JJ, Coach Franklin's friend from high school. He's right in the glass window right there. He's waving on the show. It was great. It was a perfect setup. Everything was great. James Franklin, obviously, has done great things. I'll be excited to see what he does next. I wonder when we'll see him next. That's a good question. Probably not for a long, long, long, long, long time. No, I'm thinking you're wrong. I'm thinking we're seeing him real, real, real, real, real soon. That's what I'm thinking. Where? I don't know. You've got to look for a job in sports, right? That's what they said, sports media or sports, but we talked about this yesterday, how those interviews could go when push comes to shove on whether or not you want to spot or if he is a ball lover and wants to get back in there.
2:35:08I assume that is the case. His energy feels like he is a football guy. I agree. I think we'll see. Steve, I don't know if you saw – we saw your top 15. Yeah. I don't know if you saw Tone's predicted college football playoff bracket at this point. That's a sexy graphic. He's got five SEC schools, three Big Ten schools, obviously Big 12, Power 5 ACC in there as well. And independent with Notre Dame making it. Congrats to them beating USC and then continuing to go on a run for the rest of the year is what Tone Diggs is saying. Also, congrats to Utah beating BYU because Utah is still in the hunt. BYU is not.
2:35:42Big news, Texas Tech does its thing and Miami wins the ACC outright. So congrats to them making a win is what Tone's saying. Anything you see here, Stanford? Stephen, how accurate do you think these projections are as we sit week seven versus what the end of the season actually is? Well, that's what it's going to come down to. I mean, everybody wants to know the numbers. We changed the format so the buys don't go to the league winners. I saw the analytics. I'm not an analytics guy. I just read it and I wrote it down because I thought I could comprehend it. So hopefully other people can. Right now, the SEC is 90 % to send four teams to the playoff.
2:36:17Tone has five. So he's on point there. And the Big Ten is 89 % to send three teams, 42 % to send four. So, yeah, it's pretty top-heavy. Everybody's talking about the depth and what it is, you know, SEC versus the field, whatever. The Big Ten's pretty top-heavy right now with Michigan getting beat last week by SC and Penn State not being what they have been. And the SEC, I don't know if they have a team that can win the national title, but they're going to have the most teams in the playoff. I think we can guarantee that, just seeing what those teams have to play. And the resumes are just going to look tougher because of all the games you still have to go through.
2:37:00I mean, Alabama, this is, what, six straight against ranked opponents. This is the first team that Alabama hasn't played that hasn't been undefeated this year. So their resume is as strong as anyone's, even with the loss to Florida State, because of the wins they've attained on the road and now coming back home against Tennessee. A &M's the outlier to me because they're good. It's probably the second-best win in the country after Indiana went to Oregon last week, which is the best. A &M going to Notre Dame is pretty damn good. They don't play a home game until November 15th. They got three road games and a bye.
2:37:38We're going to know everything we need to know by November with Elko's team, which I know you like, Pat, and I love him. And what he's doing on third downs is just gross with dialing stuff up. So that looks pretty good. And Texas Tech is an awesome story. I really hope we can get to a Texas Tech home game during this run because that place – I was there for the Crabtree catch. It's the greatest night in Lubbock, Texas. And if we go back there, it'll be absolutely awesome. I love that. And I also appreciate the fact that they're going all in and it's working. You know, like I like anytime somebody goes all in and it works because that is hopefully, you know, an example for others to follow.
2:38:11Like, hey, if you go all in, you also have success. When people go all in and they fail, okay, that gives other people say, see, they're doing all this and they don't even win. So, like, we need the people that go all in and are doing it to win so that other people look at that and say, that's the model that we need to follow. We don't need people going all, all, all, all the way in and then not having success because then the cheapskates out there go. See? See? Just like we said. I'm 17 years removed from that program. Point another direction. This guy doesn't want to be a part of it? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
2:38:53You guys say it. I'll be back next year. They are Penn State. That's what you wanted to say right there. Yeah, say it. I'll be back next year. Terry Smith, Western Pennsylvania. Love Terry Smith. He's interim head coach. He needs you. Gateway High School, WPIL, Hall of Fame class, same year I went in. See? Wow. And you're turning your back now on the – I love Terry Smith. Okay, so maybe give a little bit of respect to the men. He's going to get them fired up. I'm telling you. Well, then stop saying they are Penn State. Start saying we are Penn State. We've got a lot of tough games coming up. They better buckle up this week.
2:39:24Bingo. Who's the backup quarterback? Well, not a starting quarterback. He's an Ohio kid. Ethan Gronkenmeyer. He can play. Yeah. Drunkenmeyer? Gronkenmeyer. Gronk. Gronkenmeyer. Yeah, Columbus area. Columbus kid. Yeah, he's legit. He can play. Well, Drew Aller was an Ohio guy, too. That's right. Drew Aller was an Ohio guy. He's going to be going back to Columbus in a couple weeks. Godspeed, the surgery? No, no, no. November 1st, they play. Okay, you're talking about Drunkenmeyer. Okay, I got Drew Aller out for the season. Drunkenmeyer. No N. Grunkamyer. Grunkamyer? Yeah, G-R-U-N-K-E. That's the best name of sports.
2:39:59Hold on, Bear something. What's Bear's name out there? Bachmar. Bachmar. That's a good name. That's a really good name. Hanks, brother. There's a lot of really good names. I mean, Fernando Mendoza is a great name. And the Mendoza brothers being on the same team. They're not twins. A couple years, so it's not the Mendoza twins, but the Mendoza brothers taking the world by storm down here in Bloomington. College football is great. We're having a great season. I'll see you down there in Athens, brother. Can't wait to get down there. All right, fins up for Gumpy. They actually have a guy who's a leading tackler in the NFL right now.
2:40:31No, he has 55 % more snaps than everybody else because the defense is on field level. He's tackling a lot of people. Blake, that right, Gums? Yeah, the offense is only scoring 60 % of the time against the defense. What do you want them to do? The leaders need to start taking charge down here. They need to start saying we are instead of they are. One in particular. I don't like the way you've been talking about some of those Dolphins stuff down there. I stood up for that man for a long time. All right? We deserve better. See, everybody right now doesn't know which man you're talking about. There's two men that you've been standing up for for a long time.
2:41:07Hasn't there been? Oh, yeah. So why don't we just go ahead and leave that a mystery on who you're talking about? Good for you, Gumps. Who are you talking about? Our quarterback. Okay. Number one, Uno. Okay. Yeah, all right. Tua, got it. All right. He takes the podium today. Who does? Tua. Yes. Better have a muzzle on. I'm excited. No, that's what I'm talking about. We need more questions. We need more out of that. Tua's a lead by example guy. Okay, now obviously his quarterback's got to speak. He likes to disappear from his light. He doesn't like to do all the spotlight stuff. He's been very open about that.
2:41:38So I think we got to take that with a grain of salt with everything he's saying. He's trying to not give shit to anybody. Wallace is not enjoying what he's doing. Sure. And on that note, we enjoy what you're doing. Ladies and gentlemen, the man, Stanford Steve. Thank you, buddy. Yay, Steve! I enjoyed it. Hey, how'd you do on your picks? One and two. Oh, Steve. That's back-to-back weeks, one and two, brother. Steven. All of a sudden, that 66 % hit rate's about to become a fucking 50 % hit rate, and then all of a sudden, now it's everywhere at 33%. Just a quick slide, isn't it, from the fucking penthouse to the outhouse?
2:42:08Holy shit. The first half Penn State didn't hit, Steve? Yeah, exactly. Oh, I forgot that was one of your things. That set the tone. We got there with Coach Saban's Kent State. Did they win? Yeah. He really doesn't like him. What happened? He doesn't really support them much, does he? He's not really – you never hear him go into bat for Kent. He said he didn't get the job there maybe. Is that what happened? Yeah. He was at Toledo, so I think he gave them the business when he was coaching at Toledo. No offense, but Kent State's down at the bottom, and you know Saban is going up. He's not going back to go up.
2:42:46He's going up. I understand he's moved on. There is a moment a couple times once every four shows where Kent State gets brought up. Everybody's like, Coach Saban, you're a golden flash. He goes, they got terrible players. And that's like the take. and then he just moves on to the next one. And I'm sitting next to him, and I'm like, Jesus Christ. They do. I mean, they can't get anybody. What do you want? I couldn't coach here, I don't think. He's the best. You're the man. Stanford Steve, ladies and gentlemen. Bye, boys. Saban's the greatest. He's getting so comfortable up there. I told the boys, there's like, you know, the way the conversation is structured, it's vastly different than how this show is, obviously.
2:43:24Because there's so many things you've got to hit, like obligation to hit, because this is college football. we were covering college football so there's like things you know like hey we're gonna hit this we're gonna talk about this you got this you got this and then Saban will hear something that somebody else says and he'll well I need to say something to that excuse me so he taps his finger on the desk right taps his finger on the desk and it's like his way of showing that he would like to say something and I'm right next to him so I see him tapping it first normally and I look at him I'm like yeah yeah you're good I have no say over that I have no say over that so then I then I try to go to reese yeah exactly i have no say over that so then i go to reese i tell him get him like hey saban's ready to go then you talk to the truck and then all of a sudden it gets back to it and then saban says something it's like yeah hey also you should not you should just whatever you want to if i'm talking you want to let it fly just fucking go ahead dude you're he's the best yeah he is so good up there so good legitimately i don't know what his picking is though i don't know what his picking is just to go that's tough dude picking games is wild it's really nice that i'm getting really lucky with these right now but obviously i know what's happening so that's why it's a difference you know there's a talent in this obviously you know 18 to 23 year olds just on any given day showing up and all doing the same thing is certainly easily predictable you know that's the that's the thing that gets most seen though the end of the show is the mix you You have one bad day on there, boy, the internet's tough.
2:44:50It's been nice to have a couple good weeks, but I know what's around the corner. You know, it's been getting a little loud. We've been taking a little bit. More good days. More good days. Hell yeah. More good days. Yep. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, you're right. I'm never going to miss. No. Why would you? How much fun is that? Think about how cool that is. I'm never going to do one wrong. I'm so – if this goes in. All right. No, no, no. Don't even leave this to chance. You're riding a hot streak right now. You don't need to introduce anything. Yeah, this is it. This is what the university is.
2:45:22We need to know. I would like to know right now. I think it's going to change my vibes, change my mood. Because all I'm thinking about is right around the corner. You know, you go an 8-10, 8-10, 8-10 every single week. That's certainly a time. That's a good time. All the people that you picked against can't really say much because the team was right. But, boy, you pick against the team and you were wrong and their team wins. That opens the floodgates in their eyes to say whatever they want about you. Anything they've wanted to say. Yeah, exactly. That's a good one. Out of nowhere, just an enemy all of a sudden quickly comes in.
2:45:49Bang. So when you're winning, it's good. When you lose, it gets loud. This ball right here will say whether or not it's going to get loud for me. Are you sure? Are you sure you want to do that? You like a face-up on a blackjack table or you like face-down? Face-down. Okay. That's opposite of what I'm doing right now. Yeah, fuck that. I'm not doing that. Okay. No way. No. Why would I even want that to be the right? Why would you do that? Blackjack was a good call. If you missed that, you're going to get every game wrong. I'm going to start fading myself. Yeah, I will. I will start walking. I need clear eyes.
2:46:29Exactly. Few screens. Yeah. That's what I need right now. All right, let's learn football on the way up. Let's go. It's a great way to wrap up a show whenever you learn at a level that you never thought was possible. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go inside the mind of one of the greatest football minds. There's been time to give everything DB. Good D, bad D. Let's start with good D, one of the best defenses in the National Football League, coming off a hot primetime win. This was a big, big interception from D. Alford, who also had a big sack in this game as well. So second, I'm sorry, first and 10, 15 seconds left in the second quarter.
2:47:12Big time. Everybody here is outside leverage. Running back from the beginning real quick, please. Sorry. Man-to-man across the board. You got split safety looking. Then after the snap, that top safety up of the right hash, he's going to rotate down to kind of be like a deep robber. The Bills are just trying to get in the field goal range, get a chunk play, and no undercuts him using his outside leverage, big-time play. And this sets up an opportunity for the offense to get points before the half. Obviously, we know that Drake London almost touchdown did get in there, but this set him up and gave him a chance.
2:47:42So you talk about complementary football. This is it all for having a big, big year. This defense as a whole allowing under 160 yards per game when it comes to passing. Coach B.A. mentioned a couple times yesterday the number one scoring defense. So you talk about a huge turnaround. Got a lot of rookies out there playing in some premier spots, playing big-time ball. So shout out to Brick and the boys over there in Atlanta turning things around and getting a big-time win against the reigning MVP. Okay, so Carolina game just didn't happen. Carolina may be a better football team than any of us could imagine.
2:48:13So when it happens, maybe we didn't show enough respect to Carolina Panthers. Nonetheless, they shit the bed that day as well. Yeah. I mean, it's such a week-to-week league. Sometimes you just wait. Sometimes the game plan is shitty. Sometimes the quarterback's just not seeing it. Young quarterback, too. So it's a young quarterback. You're going to have your ups and downs. But he's playing well. The offense is playing well. And the defense is playing even better. So hopefully they continue to ride that wave over there in Atlanta. Wow. Yeah. I'm just seeing the next team that's on good D here, it appears.
2:48:41They were also on in the trenches. Just a few weeks back, they were going to be in some trenches as a team that was dead. Now they're all the way alive, it appears. Yes, absolutely. And on the back end, banged up on the back end. Brisker, who missed a ton of time last year, he's back in the lineup. He's playing some good ball. Dennis Allen, have these boys playing some good ball. Second in the NFL with interceptions with eight. This is Brisker, cover three. And now there are different variations of cover three. Sometimes it's got us covered right here. We keep it paused for a second. A talking point, I think Dan will mention it with this game, with the Monday night game.
2:49:16Four strong is something that Cliff loves with this offense. He likes to overload the zone coverages on defense. The Bears do a good job of covering their guys up. And in cover three, as that slot defender, you either drop to a spot or you carry that vertical. You carry that seam route. So if you let it run, he carries Debo Samuel here. And when you're running out of real estate deep and you're not worried about getting beat by a deep ball, you can undercut this and play the quarterback. and that's what the veteran Brisker does there. Just a very, very smooth interception right here, keeping him from scoring points and preserving that 3-0 lead at this point in the game.
2:49:49You know, the last time we saw this Bears defense play against this commander's team in this type of setting, we saw the worst defense of all time. Yeah, it's true. Tyreek Stevens, he's been playing some good ball this year. Yes, he has. Hell yeah. Think about that team until now. Yeah. Think about it. Laughing stock, fire, everything, hell, now where they're at. winning three games straight and looking like a real team. And that's the NFL kind of wrapped up. This team started off 0-2. There were moments in this game where they could have just folded and years past that team would have definitely folded and just pissed down their leg.
2:50:20But these are long games and it's a long, long season. You can get in a rut. You can drop a couple games, but you got to be able to battle. So it just shows you the leadership not only on the sideline with the coaches but in the locker room. The Eagles right now, the next team on the opposite side, obviously here, they're dealing with a little rut here, dropping two games. Big time, big time play here by Flott. Now keep it paused. We got pressure. So it's going to be a zero look from the New York Giants. And as a corner, kind of similar to Brisker, when you get to this area of the field, you get inside the 20, the field now becomes wider than it is longer.
2:50:52So you're not necessarily worried about getting ran by. And then we talked a couple weeks ago about leverage. So right here with that cut split of the wide receiver, he's about a yard inside the numbers. Flott does a good job starting out with outside leverage foot up. and he knows we got more guys than they can block. So this ball is going to be coming out quick. So Hurts has to be absolutely perfect. This ball has to be out in front where his receiver catches it or it goes out of bounds. If it's not, it's going to be in trouble. When you throw these picks, when you throw these balls out to the flat and you're late or if you're off target, they can go back to the house.
2:51:26Saquon does a good job here running them down and getting them out of bounds, giving its defense the chance to just line up and play defense. But big-time play right here by fly. How's he been playing this year, Bruce? How do you guys feel about 2-8? He's good. You know, it's his fourth year in the league. He's been rotating with Deontay Banks, who's in his third year. This was actually the first game this year where Flott just played the whole time, and obviously it pays off here. Young secondary been on bad D a bit, but obviously this is encouraging, you know, on the other side of the coin. I'll tell you what, we've been a lot of bad D givers around here at the Giants.
2:52:00Everything's turning up Giants right now. Yeah. Everything's turning up Giants. I saw a scat of boom out there as a big takeaway. Now the defense, Flott's getting a pick. That looked easy for him, AJ. That looked easy for Flott right there. Yeah, it did. Zero coverage. D-Bud say zero coverage. He doesn't have to bail. He knows like, hey, man, where they are on the field. I mean, yeah, just something that for Jalen Hurts and this Eagles offense, just absolutely killer. Can't happen, but it was a great play. And timely, timely too. 27-17 right here, fourth quarter. So if they go in and score a touchdown right here, it's a three-point game, obviously.
2:52:30And now, not only do you get the interception, but you set up your offense that's led by a young quarterback in a great position to be able to continue to run this ball and tick-tock clock off the clock. Tick time off the clock, I'm sorry. Yeah, tick-tock, no worries. Time off the clock. Now, speaking of time off the clock, as the game gets later, it seems like this team only gets better. Yes, they do. Now, Mack Jones threw for a ton of yards here. Jamel Dean actually just won the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. It's his birthday as well. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Jamel.
2:52:59He's missed some time, but he's played well this year. He's made big-time timely plays. This is another one here. Now, run it back a little bit. Starting here for Mac Jones, this looks like – what kind of defense this looks like, AQ? Single high. Single high defense. So, probably man-to-man, maybe cover three. But post-snap, once the ball is snapped, it's going to rotate and become cover two. So, that safety is going to get vertical, the corner to bottom. He's going to become the deep half player. You have your run through. And Jamel Dean does a good job playing it high to low. So you play the high route to force the quarterback to either put enough air on it so it gives my safety enough time to get over the top.
2:53:35And if not, I go up and make a big-time play, and that's what Jamel Dean did here. Had a strip sack as well this game. So a big-time game for Dean and a big-time interception. Once again, a timely interception. They're up eight right now in the fourth quarter. Big-time play right here. Mack Jones, I wouldn't necessarily say he was fooled because he saw him, but he thought he could get that ball and layer it over him, but he went up there and high pointed and made a big time play. He baited butter there, Jamel Dean, named NFC Defensive Player of the Week for Week 6. Dean currently leads the NFL in lowest passer rating when targeted at 20.8.
2:54:06He's tied for second in lowest completion rate when targeted, 42.1%, and ranks tied fifth in interceptions. Full release here from Buccaneers Communication. He's a player. He is a player. He's got a lot of stats saying he's great. And it turns out Good D is also saying he's great. And it appears if he baited butter right into that particular throw. I love the disguise from one high to two rolling into that thing. Got you confused. It did. AQ had no idea what the hell was going on. No, and I was kind of blown away on how they got to two. Yeah. Kind of wild because they sent the corner. You're seeing that kind of a lot.
2:54:40If you see down here at the bottom, if you run it back to the beginning, 22, you'll see he starts to get back early. So that's the thing about disguise. I talk about disguise a lot. It's obviously great when it works, but you never want to put yourself or your teammates in a position where you can't be where they expect you to be. So it's one thing to be in a good disguise pre-snap, but post-snap, just have your ass wherever you need to be. You'll actually see a perfect example of a team not doing that on the flip side. Oh, we got bad D. And we flip over to the bad D with Tampa on offense. Oh, they got two for here.
2:55:15Fred Warner got hurt. This is in favor. Look, obviously Fred Warner being hurt is a big thing. I think Bosa being out is well shot at teasing P's of Fred Warner. He is my favorite linebacker to watch play football for sure. I don't know if he would have helped him on this play. Disguise, if you keep your paws here, that cornerback all the way up top, this is some variation, in my opinion, of cover three. You'll get the late motion with the back going out there. That kind of gives you a little eye candy. But that corner, he is responsible for the deepest of the deepest on his side of the field in that third.
2:55:45Now, obviously, the post safety, he has the same responsibility, and you have a corner down here with the same responsibility. So right now he's only one yard deep, and he's responsible for the deep third part of the field. So Tess Johnson, we saw this play yesterday, let it roll here. He sees the vacated area, and he just throws that hand up and runs it down, and Baker does a great job getting the ball, seeing it. B.A. said this probably wasn't even his route. He just saw that open area and just ran to it. But that corner, you're never going to get to where you need to be with that alignment.
2:56:17You can see him kind of, you know, we all either slap your hands or slap yourself in the past. You know, you fuck this one up, and it just started with alignment. If he's aligned, if he's off, who knows what route Tez actually runs if the coverage is played properly. But whenever you do this, that's the thing about cornerback. Like, you can have, you know, 55 great plays, and you mess up once or twice, and it becomes a play like this. MVP. MVP. MVP. Tez is special. Yeah. He said, you know, I'm slow sometimes. It's going to take me a little bit to catch up. And the boys hyping him up, saying, now you've got your confidence.
2:56:53Now you're going to be you. If they continue to add weapons down there, I mean, they're a problem. He's got to get healthy. Exactly. Yeah. If they continue to – imagine guys just coming back healthy like week 13, just dropping in, oh, we've got an all-pro dropping in, we've got another one dropping in. It's like they're only going to get better and stronger, and somehow they're still leading the NFC. Oh, another case of Dallas Cowboys. Bad D and Big D. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 20-yard line. We got some variation of too high down here. So you got a cloud corner, and then you have a deep half safety.
2:57:25Once again, not worried about necessarily the deep ball, but you're playing concepts down here because things happen so tightly. And a very common concept around the National Football League is like a high-low, like a stick-dig route. So if you let it run a couple clicks here, you pause it here, You see Lee get about five yards from the line of scrimmage just sitting up, curling up. So that lets that safety know. I'm sure this is a concept the Panthers run a ton because it's running across the NFL. You sit there, and then you have a dig or post route from T-Mac down here, number four. But he goes, boom, gives him a little ee-eek.
2:58:00Faded butter, went vertical, dig and go. Great job by Canales calling it. Great job by Young seeing it and throwing it. A little cue here. Run it back a little bit, which, once again, is much easier sitting here looking at the screen. But the receiver never looks back, right? So if you're running a dig, if you're running a post, you're going to snap that your head back and get it back to the quarterback. The entire time of him running his route, he's looking at the safety. Once again, a lot easier to see here than it is on the field because you're anticipating that. You want to jump that and beat him to the spot.
2:58:31So a great job having tendencies as an offense and then using a double move off of those tendencies. So he had two touchdowns in this game T-Mac did for him in this big comeback that we kind of saw kind of a little bit behind the scenes with Bryce Young mic'd up. Irish Hughes is special, huh? They're saying T-Mac's a real deal. Yeah. Okay, I like that. He's got all the tools. He's got all the tools. He's big. He's fast. He's agile, which you don't really see that combination much. And then as long as they can continue running the ball like they have. Number one offensive line in the league. Yeah, yeah.
2:59:01That's what he said. Back to back, what, 200, 225 from Rico? Isn't that weird when you run the ball, how it opens everything up? Isn't that crazy? Isn't that a crazy thought? Maybe Cleveland should throw it 70 fucking times next week. All right. Thank you. Great show, guys. We appreciate you. We start out with a little PFF heat. We end it with a little play calling heat. That's a nice little Wednesday. Great work this week, D-Buck. Great work on good, D-Buck. Hey, Q, thank you for traveling out here, brother. Great work today. We appreciate you. I'll be excited to see how you do a U-Ball. I'm excited, too.
2:59:32I can find a partner. Yeah, you do. You need a partner. Yeah. Yeah, Tony, right? Tony did drop Bruce. I did not drop Bruce, but it would be an honor to play with a Q. But I would certainly drop him again because I did drop him the other day. I said I'm looking for a new teammate. And then if you want to be that new teammate, I would certainly drop Bruce. I love Bruce. He just got so down in the dump so quickly. He doesn't do that. You got to pick him up, Tone. You got to pick him up. Nah, that's not my job. No, that's U-ball. It's your job. Be like Bryce Young. Stay with me. It's U-ball. It's not we-ball.
3:00:05But you're a team. That's good. And it's on you. Kind of needs to play an arm ball. Bruce, how do you feel about just kind of getting buried here publicly without really saying anything? Yeah, no, I mean, the Tony was Dennis Rodman out there. He was grabbing every rebound, throwing it down. So it was completely on me. My PFF grade, I'd probably give myself like a 36. Oh, you're missing assignments? Out of 36? I'm not a defensive player. I got a little caught up in trying to catch the ones that just hit the backboard and drop right away. Bad strategy. Then I was letting up all the easy ones that hit the rim.
3:00:39Read the rebound. Yeah, no, I was trying to reinvent the wheel, and I should have just been focused on my fundamentals. Okay, that's good ownership. Yeah, it is. Great ownership. That's good accountability right there. Tone, I ask you, do you have any regrets on maybe moving on from Bruce twice after hearing the accountability? He was doing a lot of this one's on me. All fingers pointing back at Bruce there. You got to like that as a teammate. Are you guys still splitting? Yeah, I mean, he's great. He's saying all the right things right now after the game, after the locker room, after the shower, after things calmed down.
3:01:08But during the game, he was, you know, kicking dust up and popping. I just didn't love that. A lot of passion. A lot of passion, Tony. I'm not going to apologize for that. You're saying when bullets are flying, boy, there's somebody heading for the hills and we don't need that. You know me? I'm a positive guy. I need some positive reciprocation. Yeah, especially in the middle of this game because this game will knock you down. Yeah. Because you're going to fail a lot. I want to be down in the dumps. He's getting a partner who's the most positive guy on earth. You? Me. Yeah. I can't wait to watch Tone and Q do their thing.
3:01:37And then the team of the Ds, are you guys giving up or are you guys back? No, hell no. You guys are still a team? I'm interested what D-Bone is wearing. I hope he's – He brought his Duke hat today. He means business. Okay. And I think he's got a hoodie, a thin athletic hoodie on, like one of those. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, he said he's going tarps off for this game today. I'll tell you what. I wouldn't be surprised without how he dressed yesterday. AJ, what were you saying about D-Bone and D-Butt? No, Team Bone and Butts. I didn't think they were splitting up already, right? That's not the team name, guys.
3:02:08Bones are meant for butts. That's not the team name. What's your name? You're Bone and Butts. Bone and Butts. Bone and Butts. Didn't you hear Stanford Steve said some team came in the back door? Yeah, Stanford Steve does a coming one a lot. You know, it's hard not to whenever you see a team just climbing. It's like, oh, look who's coming all over the place. And whenever two guys are teammates and D is the first name of both of their nicknames, it's hard not just kind of put that together like they do with those headlines, how they put like one big D. Sure, yeah. And then they put bone and butt right there next to it.
3:02:46Just one D, bone and butts. Not to mention the coach. Who? D. Oh, yeah, Coach D. And also Kirk, the driver. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. D, is that who you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's their coach? I didn't know he was bone and butt. Yeah, that's what they were saying. He went over the game plan last night. He should be our referee, though. He's a great referee. He does not know the rules. But if he learned the rules, he would be good for me. He would also make good signals. Oh, yeah. What are you doing? Is it a one-hand game? Because it's a small ball. You're going to have to figure that out.
3:03:18That's on you. It's you, ball. All right. I'm good at adjusting. I'll figure it out. AQ is going to be good. I predict AQ does very well. Thanks, AJ. For real. This could be an AQ game, to be clear. but he might also get stuck by the rim. I had one yesterday where I did not put it high enough and got stuck by the rim. Eight-foot rim seems very attainable, seems very easy to get to, but you do got to put a little bit of effort. Unless you're D-bone, who's taller than everybody, he doesn't jump at all. So that's part of the problem because it is tips. So you have to jump. Do you have to dunk tip it or can you lay it in?
3:03:53You can lay it in, but it's much easier with the size of the ball. It's an AQ thing to dunk it because it's hard to get a good tip. You're like Shaq with the basket. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough with the meniscus. Oh, yeah. Just yesterday it happened? Yeah, tough day for me. Stood up off the couch. I just sat up, stood up, and that doesn't feel right. And it hasn't felt right since. I think it's done. And it feels like a little gravelly in there, or what does it feel like? Yeah, it feels like something's stuck on the outside. And he's just rubbing? Does it feel like the rubbing?
3:04:25Do you feel that or no? Just a stab. No, just stuck. Can you squat? I can squat. I can squat, yeah. Up steps? I don't have steps. Steps do hurt meniscus, Terry. Yeah, that's how you find out. Yeah, you have steps. Going up, obviously, is the issue. Because going down, you can kind of do the half limb. All right, we're going to get out of here. We're going to go play some U-Ball. We'll give you some updates. I'm sure you guys are really riveted by this. You have no idea what the game is. Obviously, you've never seen it before. But this whole conversation is just for us, and we both have a best bet.
3:04:57What are you doing? Foxy, good to see you, champ. Yeah, that's nice. It's nice to be champ again. If this ball goes in.
3:05:08Yes. AQ and. Tone. We'll win a game today. Okay. God damn it. It didn't mean you were going to be champs. That's probably not another game is what I was talking about, but I wasn't going to give that up ever. But it looks like you guys got no shot. I think it's going to take you about three quarters of the game to figure out how to get the ball to the hoop, and by that point, we're already winning the game. So, welcome to the Thunderdome, brother. Hey, hey, Tony, why don't you come on out here, bud? On my way. Gave out your bracket today. Also, got some good callus of shins. You know, I had to feel good whenever Seven came out on your side and the entire thing in Pittsburgh.
3:05:45That's a good voice to have on your side. It was good to have Ben come out on your side. Seven? Yeah. My Lord and Savior? Yeah. Yeah. You're not the only one that calls the Lord and Savior. Good to see you. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. That's real. We're incredibly lucky. We're incredibly thankful. And every few months, we get a heads up on how many people are watching and how many people are seeing and how many people are spending their life with us. And it's mind-blowing every time.
3:06:16We're forever grateful. We have no idea why you choose to do so. But for as long as you choose to do so, we'll continue to do this. Thank you all so much. we're in this thing together never forget it team on me team on three one two three bye
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On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up week 6 of the NFL season as AQ gives his five best offensive lines of the week and biggest takeaway’s, and Darius Butler highlights the best DB play of the week, and Tone gives his midseason college football playoff graphic, they recap last night's NLCS game that saw the Dodgers take a commanding 2-0 lead over the Brewers. Joining the progrum to chat about about his thoughts of a great weekend of football, PFF player grades, and previews some of next weeks games. Later, ESPN legend, College GameDay stalwart, co-host of SVPod, Stanford Steve joins the show to preview this weekend's massive college football slate. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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