PMS 2.0 1438 - FIRST 15: NFL Week 8 Recap

27 Oct 2025 · 33 min

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Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 Episode 1438

Episode Overview In this episode of *The Pat McAfee Show*, titled "FIRST 15: NFL Week 8 Recap," Pat McAfee, Darius Butler, and the crew discuss the major storylines from Week 8 of the NFL season. The episode aims to condense the discussion into a 15-minute segment but humorously acknowledges previous attempts that exceeded the time limit.

Key Headlines Discussed

  1. Blowout Sunday Slate
  2. General Consensus: Week 8 featured a series of one-sided games, with scores like 38-14 and 40-9 dominating the day.
  3. Only Close Game: The Jets' victory over the Bengals, 39-38, was highlighted as the only game within a single score.
  4. Insights:
  5. The hosts noted that this type of Sunday is atypical for the NFL, where games usually come down to the wire.
  6. They discussed how any team can lose on any given Sunday, emphasizing that players must show up to avoid embarrassing defeats.
  1. National Tight Ends Day
  2. Celebration: The day was created to honor tight ends, with several standout performances noted.
  3. Players Highlighted: Tucker Craft, Dallas Goedert, George Kittle, and others had impressive games.
  4. Discussion Points:
  5. The evolution of the tight end position into a crucial role that combines blocking and receiving skills.
  6. The significance of tight ends in modern offensive schemes and how they often present matchup problems for defenses.
  1. High School Football Miracles
  2. Indiana's Last-Minute Victory: A recap of two miraculous high school football games, with one game featuring a dramatic last-second comeback.
  3. Rules Discussion: They explored the rules surrounding untimed downs and how a block in the back led to a continuation of play, ultimately resulting in a victory for Eastbrook.
  1. Running Back Resurgence
  2. Top Performers: Notable running backs like Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley, and James Cook are leading their teams and shining in the current league climate.
  3. Statistics: Saquon’s resurgence and Jonathan Taylor’s incredible touchdown count were underscored.
  4. Impact on Teams: The hosts highlighted how running backs are once again becoming pivotal to team success in the NFL.
  1. Indianapolis Colts & Super Bowl Aspirations
  2. Colts Performance: The Colts are viewed as a formidable team with Jonathan Taylor leading the charge; the hosts discussed their potential Super Bowl chances.
  3. Quarterback Performance: Daniel Jones was praised for his control of the offense, contributing to the team’s success and boosting his own potential contract negotiations.

Guest Appearance

Adam Schefter

  • Injury Updates: Schefter provided insights about ongoing player injuries and the repercussions surrounding the Ravens’ injury reporting practices.
  • MVP Discussion: Schefter weighed in on Jonathan Taylor's MVP candidacy amidst a field dominated by quarterbacks.

Key Takeaways

  • NFL's Competitive Nature: The unpredictable nature of the league was emphasized, with any team capable of performing well on any given Sunday.
  • Tight End Importance: The evolution and significance of tight ends in modern football were discussed, with a call to celebrate their contributions.
  • Colts' Strong Position: The Indianapolis Colts are highlighted as a team to watch, with discussions centered on their offensive capabilities and playoff potential.
  • Injury Reporting Scrutiny: Growing concerns about accurate injury reporting in the league were addressed, showing how it's becoming a focal point for scrutiny.

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0:00It's time for us to do our first 15. Now, remember, this first 15, driven by Ram trucks, is certainly aiming to be a 15-minute segment, okay, where we take the top five headlines coming out of the NFL Sunday slate and we chit-chat about them. But it's not first 15 minutes necessarily. Can we please put the clock up here? It's not necessarily the first 15 minutes. It's first 15 plays with the goal to be in 15 minutes. Last week was 42 minutes. Close. We're getting better. Okay. Kind of starting to iron it down a little bit. Touchdown drive. Yeah. It was a long, hey, this was like Texans. Yep. Methodical.

0:40That's the possession that we had, you know, which, by the way, they're saying record-breaking possession time. Since, like, 2006, Texans absolutely dominated the 49ers in entirety. So we're going to try to get through these. Last week was the first time we mentioned how long it was, and we went longer than we've ever gone before. Sure. So let's just try to keep this one tidy. Tidy. Okay. Tidy. Here we go. Tidy. Tidy on three. One, two, three. Tidy. Okay, here we go. Let's start with number five. Headline, start to clock. An absolute shite Sunday slate. Listen, we're just going to read through the scores here.

1:13We're just going to read through the scores. 38-14, 35-25, 32-13, 44-24, 30-16, 40-9, 26-15, 23-3, 38-20, 34-10. And then in a barn burner, okay, the Jets win 39-38 over the Bengals. Okay, so that's the only game that was within one score. Everything else, absolute shite across the board. And don't look now, as I mentioned, 11.5 points spread tonight. Marcus Mariota traveling into the kingdom, in the Chiefs kingdom, as an 11.5 point dog. Now, we believe that this commanders team is on a good trajectory. We like what Washington's doing. We appreciate what the commanders are doing. Cliff Kingsbury is an absolute dog.

1:56The Chiefs is better than the Chiefs have been. And they're at home. And we all believe that they're probably going to win the game. And if it leads, if it's anything like what yesterday was, this might be a 35-point game. We didn't know that the NFL could produce this. We didn't know that every single game could be a blowout. We started watching those games yesterday, and it's like, you've got the quad box on, and then you've got Red Zone channel. You're like, I must be missing some games. Where are these at? And you just see shite score, shite score, shite score. And it's like, well, modern NFL, there is no such thing as a shite score.

2:27Everybody can come back. They didn't. Everybody was dead early. This thing was over quick. The NFL obviously can't thrive off of this. But these are nice reminders every once in a while that any given Sunday, if you don't show up, you can get your ass beat deep. Yeah, you just mentioned this is the complete opposite of what the NFL is on a week-to-week basis. Typically, it comes down as a one-possession game. It's a two-minute drive, you know, kicking a field goal, scoring a touchdown, something like that. But just a bunch of blows. I was probably expecting the Colts Titans to be a blowout. I expect a much better game with the Broncos-Cowboys.

2:58And then the Dolphins surprisingly beat the shit out of the Falcons. So, yeah, just a surprising slate all around. Yeah, we always say on any given Sunday, there's a lot of teams in this league right now who are either bad or on any given Sunday are capable of laying an egg, for sure. Well, so we played the Pittsburgh Steelers and got blown out a couple times whenever we were on the Indianapolis Colts. Good days. And those were good days for you, for sure. The, you know, it's a nice reminder whenever you ask, like, because we had a good team. Yeah. And you just get killed. And it's like you ask the coaches around those times or the players around those times, like the OGs, it's like, yeah, like this could happen every week.

3:35You just get a couple guys that don't show up and play good at a couple positions. That's what the NFL is. I think that's what, like, people think these teams are shite. So people get into the conversation. You know what? Saints will lose to Ohio State. Indiana will be able to beat the Saints or something like that. People start saying that type of stuff, especially whenever teams are terrible. then there's always a reminder like, hey, these are professional athletes getting paid a professional check to play football. And every once in a while, the universe comes together, and you can be great.

4:00And every once in a while, the universe comes together and says, you guys suck today. And that can certainly happen to any team. And as soon as you think you got it figured out, like even as fans are on the outside looking in, I thought I knew who the Falcons were at this point. Okay, maybe they're a much better team. Even the Steelers, I thought the Steelers would show up. The Cowboys, we knew their defense was absolute shite. But I thought they could at least put up points offensively and kind of get in a shootout with the Broncos. So, yeah, a lot of question marks still next to a lot of these teams up there.

4:28Stat from Hembo and ESPN Research, there's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday. Sunday was the first day with one or zero games decided by single digits since December 20th, 1970. Come on. That's nuts. It's an urgent. Right, indeed. Good addition. Dude, that's almost Austin Moore. Yeah. Bingo. That is almost Austin Moore. weren't they, dude? Okay, so it was shite indeed, says Hembo, which we agree, Hembo. Shite indeed. I didn't read the 1970 part of that stat. I just did the whole, that's a long time of football not being shite. We were there for it. Yeah, hell yeah. Hey, we lived through it.

5:06Yep, yep. COVID? Yeah, exactly. Okay, I was of the age, you know, 2001, lived through that. Sure. Worst football game of all time, or worst football Sunday of all time, basically. We were a part of that for the NFL. Well, and the real kicker is, you know, typically if we have a shite slate, there's still like maybe one or two games where they'll at least be close, you know, going down the stretch. I mean, Jets-Bangles, like that was just like a, hey, you have Reds on. I'm like, oh, wow, Jets are starting to come back a little bit. Like I wasn't paying any attention to that game, and it turns out to be by far the best game of the day.

5:41Shout out, there's a lot of potential, you know, spiritual stuff with that particular game too for Jets-Legend. nick mango passing away we would like to send our condolences and positive prayers and vibes obviously to his family he and aj hawk were like i think best friends since their kids same high school obviously roommates at ohio state so we've learned a lot about nick mango got to know him a lot absolute legend of a human everything you hear about him just know that it's in every aspect of his life oh this guy was a great teammate oh this guy's a great business partner oh this guy's a great dad this guy's a great husband this guy's great everything about him was great we had a chance to catch up with him a couple weeks ago when everything was going on and I was trying to get some more information on how we could help maybe on the program and just chat with him still talking shit still quick the beard was still good I mean they just you're talking utter surprise here uh society has lost a great man so the Jets getting a huge win on that day was cool that was like cool to see that was on now I don't think anybody was expecting a 39 38 win but that being the only game that was really in it.

6:43Stinks for the NFL. But, boy, if you're on one of those winning teams, let's enjoy these. Let's enjoy these. Because, you know, most games, very scary. Are we going to lose this or are we going to win? Just being able to about third quarter to say, we're way better in this game. Let's go ahead and enjoy this a little bit. Rest your starters. You had to call the game for the Colts-Titans. I assume you did a great job. I haven't gone back and listened to it. But the boys, we had an ear on it so we could pull any clips for it. you did a great job on that you had to work that entire game you know all the way down to the end we're having a good time this week just know we were enjoying the hell out of this particular game and although many would say this game was shite as a Colts fan I'd like to let you know it was fantastic watching that man do his thing all right let's go to the number four headline here now listen I like that there's a new holiday anytime we can create something to celebrate something I'm with it okay so the people that push against some of these things that happen oh it's too gimmicky it's to whatever like the super duper cup that the nba put in for sure in the middle of the thing the commissioner cup or whatever the hell it is uh no the uh nba cup yeah sorry the nba cup they put it in the middle of the season everybody's like this is a gimmick it's like who cares we're celebrating we're giving our trophies i think they shouldn't be hanging the banners next to the other banners but we should still enjoy it so when national tight ends day was created by these tight end university boys who were trying to absolutely build a brand of what their position is which are dogs across the board you got to be tough enough to block you got to be athletic enough to be able to get open and catch the ball.

8:08And, oh, yeah, normally going to have to be the mentality setter for your entire team. This tight end position is insane, especially with the amount of talent that there is. And there's a National Tight Ends Day that should be celebrated. And it feels like defensive coordinators should understand the day is existing as well. I know the NFL puts out tweets and puts out shirts and shit like that. I think defensive coordinators need to have somebody on the horn saying, hey, what's going on this weekend? Oh, it's National Tight Ends Day. Do you think offense coordinators are going to target tight ends a little bit more because of that?

8:36Defense coordinator saying, no. Everybody else around going, yeah. Tight ends went off yesterday. And it feels like every year on National Tight Ends Day, tight ends go crazy. Tucker Craft was the main event. He went absolutely absurd. What is the Tucker Craft story? He grew up on a Native American reservation? Yeah, correct. In South Dakota, grew up on the reservation and actually was named an honorary member of the tribe because obviously lived on it through high school and everything. But, yeah, he's an absolute dog. Yes, he is. He did a kip-up last night on that sod that was unbelievable. Runs people over.

9:13He's like ultimate warrior. And it seems like when he gets the ropes and gets the ball, it's just like this as well. I couldn't even fathom. They were saying nine-on-nine football or something like that. Imagine him playing basketball. Imagine anything. Now, granted, that was filthy. So it's an athlete. The amount of explosivity that requires there. He did not push off his hands either. Yes, he did. They were just there. You see that other angle? He didn't push. He didn't push. Oh, it's just a balance. Yeah, he didn't push it. Okay, because humans like me, even on a springy floor, I need to use hands to shoot myself up.

9:47Sure. Not athletic enough. You're saying he just wanted to see where the ground was. He was maybe holding the ground down, actually. Yeah, could have been. So that he could put himself. I didn't know humans did it without their hands. Oh, what's that? I didn't know humans did that without their hands. Drew McIntyre actually just, from back, no hands, just kicks himself all the way. That's the Scottish psychopath. He's actually quite calculated cerebral. But whatever it takes, that's an insane thing. But all these tight ends go absolutely crazy. I mean, you go through, Goddard had two touchdowns.

10:18They got George Kittle, Tongs, Hunter Henry, Njoku, Harold Fannin Jr., Mason Taylor, Gunnar Helm, Charlie Carter, and then let's not even forget, Tyler Warren exists, didn't score a touchdown on National Tight Ends Day. kind of screwed Gumpy over on a touchdown parlay. Gumpy was refusing to have a good time because Tyler Warren didn't get any end zone early. I said, you're a part of the problem. Gumpy, not a part of the solution here. Should have cashed out whenever it was a$25 bet for$900. You decide to continue to run. That's on you. That is not on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's an absolute dog, as are all of these tight ends.

10:49Brees Hall throws an incredible touchdown here as we're Mawson folks with Mason Taylor. But D-Butz, the position's difficult. I know Nickel, obviously, the third corner in, which is now a part of basically every defense's starting pack, normally have to square off against tight ends. When did the tight end position transition into these monsters that they are in today's game start to happen? And what did defenses try to do to combat it? I mean, Antonio Gates kind of revolutionized it, I would say, in our age group. You know, Willis Lowe before that as a Charger tight end. But, yeah, Gronk was kind of like the mode.

11:22He was the hybrid, which kind of kiddo is. Great blocker and then also great receiver. then Travis Kelsey became like, hey, almost like a bonus wide receiver. But, yeah, they're a matchup problem. They're just so big. They're so athletic. And because of their range, their catch range, their radius, they're always open. Even when a DB or a linebacker is on them, they can just box you out and go up there and get a rebound. They are just phenomenal talents. And not to mention, on Thursday night, Rondé Gaston, Jr., he balled out for the Chargers as well, which another Dolphin legend son that we could have drafted just like Mason Taylor.

11:54But that's neither here nor there. Hunter Henry is like now the pillar of the Patriots. Is he the longest tenured New England Patriot up there, it feels like? That's a good question, probably. But, I mean, even on that list of rookies, like Mason Taylor, Deebo just mentioned, he won the game for the Jets. Breeze all through the touchdown. Like Mason Taylor stepped up in the biggest moment. And then if there is one bright spot of that shite Tennessee Titans team, it's Gunnar Helm. Gunnar Helm has been really good for them too. And Cam Wart. Yeah, and Cam Wart. And then also Harold Fennin Jr. for the Browns.

12:26He was the only guy making plays for Cleveland yesterday. It's impressive, these young tight ends coming in. I love the position as a whole. Just because those guys, what, back in the day, would probably be moved to either defensive end or maybe offensive line. Or maybe, hey, go play some hoops. Hey, you're an incredible athlete. You're seemingly not big enough but too big. Maybe go play some hoops. Now this position is like, hey, if you are the freakiest athlete, we got the position for you. And that's seemingly what it's become. Match-up problems. Congrats to the tight ends. Happy National Tight End Day.

13:02Austin Muerte. National Tight End Day. National Tight End Day. All right, let's go to the number three headline coming out of our football weekend. High school miracles. Now, high school football, obviously, is something that we all love. We all grew up being a fan of. Obviously, it's folklore. It's fairy tale. Well, there's two high school situations that happen on Friday night that need to be seen. Let's start here in Indiana, about an hour and ten minutes northeast of where we sit here. 2A football, Eastbrook versus Alexandria. Eastbrook undefeated on the season. Alexandria needs to win to move on in the playoffs.

13:37Eastbrook already has it cemented. We are now with 11 seconds left in the game. Alexandria has the ball. Fourth down. Got to run an 11-second play. What do they end up running? Huh? Huh? Huh? Run back, run back, can still run away, throws it out. Boom, four seconds left. Okay, so now there's four seconds left for Eastbrook, the undefeated powerhouse of 2A. Bodie Howe comes in, number 15 quarterback for Eastbrook. Go ahead and play it. What are we going to run? Well, obviously we're going to run hook and ladder in the annexation of Puerto Rico. Okay, that might be a forward lateral there. Reft and caught though.

14:12Stripes down here, didn't see it. Bodie Howe gets the ball back. He's at his own 15. He's at his own 11. He's getting the edge. Bodie Howe, quarterback, Eastbrook. 6 '1", 205-pound senior at Eastbrook.

14:30Rumbling, fumbling, jumping. Oh, no. Scoring. Wow. Let's go. Hold the phone. What do you mean? Hold the phone. There's a flag on the plate. Oh, no. It's got to be the forward lateral, right, back there at the beginning? It has to be. No, it was the forward lateral. It was way back there. Yeah, well, turns out it's not the forward lateral. It was actually a block in the back on the offensive team. Okay? So you go ahead and pick that flag up. Congratulations. No play. We're over. Nope. As there was a lineup for handshakes, because each of these teams thought it was over after a block in the back was called on Eastbrook, the refs say, get back on the sidelines.

15:07There's one more untimed down. How does that work? Ten yards from the spot of the foul. Bodie Howe gets an opportunity. Bodie Howe's not asking. Hey, this ain't Bodie's fault. No. So, Bodie and the Eastbrook boys, this ain't our fault. Hey, listen, they gave us another play. That's what we're going to do. Bodie Howe going to take advantage of it? Wing T. Yeah, he is. Wing T. Three wide receivers. Whoa! Give me that! So, now they score a touchdown. Okay, so on time down, after their own block in the back, after a forward lateral potential hook and ladder, annexation of Puerto Rico, it's not their fault.

15:43Hey, not your blinders. Exactly. It's not Bodie Howe's fault at all. Now they need to pick up the two-point conversion. 29-27. You think Bodie Howe's not going to pick it up? Yeah, right. Roll right. Out of pocket. Jump. Back. Fade away. Give me that. Tie ball game. Let's go to overtime. Well, Alexandria scores a touchdown on their first series. Eastbrook has to answer. You think Bodie Howe's going to answer? Uh, yeah. I'm keeping it. Touchdown. What do they do? They going to tie it up? They going to tie it up or are they going to go for two? Go for two. Oh, no. Bodie Howe. Pitch man's open. No way.

16:16I'll take it. They win. Wow. Eastbrook remains undefeated. Alexandria. Wow. Alexandria, like I say, hard-fought game. That's incredible work. Way to show resiliency and score in overtime. On that note, Bodie Howell, this guy's unstoppable. Yes, he is. This guy's unstoppable. What a name. Yeah, it is a great name. What a name. I mean, what a game. That's a tough one, though. Are you familiar with the rules here in the state? So I don't – in my eyes, in my head, the only time you ever extend a game untimed down is when there's a defensive penalty. Offensive penalties, I never thought there was an extension of the time.

16:53You know, because offense wants another play. So if they make a mistake, they're getting rewarded almost by making a mistake. So I always thought the defensive penalty was leading to the untimed down. Is that how you view it? I thought so as well. Maybe that's just us covering and playing pro sports. I feel like it was that way in college. but it probably changes state by state with these rules. But this was absolutely wild. Tone Diggs just sent a rule, and I think we can pull it up right now. But the teams thought it was over, too. Yeah. Teams, the full video has them. Yeah, the announcer. Now, granted, we had the Alexandria announcer.

17:24Sure. He was not as pumped up as the Eastbrook announcer. Eastbrook's way better. Is on the other side. Oh, my God, a miracle. Okay, so Article III, a period shall be extended by an untimed down if one of the following occurred. There was a foul by either team, and the penalty is accepted except for those fouls listed in 3-3-4, there was a double foul. There was an inadvertent whistle. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown was scored during the last down in the fourth period and the point would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff qualifying. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown was scored during the last down of the fourth period and the points would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff.

17:58What's that mean? Somebody's going to have to explain that to us. We're all very surprised by it. And congrats to them getting a huge win in Eastbrook. and start Alexandria. And then in Plumborough. Okay. Pennsylvania? Sure. The Plumb Mustangs. Wow. We're playing the Penn Hills. I know that name. That's where – Is it still? Is it still? I don't know. I don't want to say their mascot name. Is it still? Aaron Donald's home. A lot of good football. A lot of good football in Penn Hills. Plumb Penn Hills rivalry. Okay. A lot of similar humans. A lot of similar humans. A little bit different. A lot of attack.

18:40Like, very similar style. They border. They border. Very close to each other. Okay, so this is a rivalry. Nick basically lived in Penhills. This is a rivalry. Yes, exactly. This is a rivalry. Penhills has always been better in Paul. Penhills has always been better in Paul. At football. At football. Every other thing, we got him. Every other thing, we got him. Football, though, they've certainly had us. Together, playoffs. Plum needs a win at home. How are you doing? Well, Austin Kolonkowski, section one soccer player of the year, has his field goal blocked. The wherewithal, he picks it up. Is it going to get tackled?

19:19I don't think so. Strong soccer player, kicker, survives 15 yards after contact, scores a touchdown because the boys rally plums going to the playoffs, and Austin Kolonkowski, the player of the year in Section 1, Class 4A, is obviously an absolute dog. I believe the Plum soccer team is currently on a playoff run, and now because of that, the Plum football team is also on a playoff run. They're going to go to USC. That's going to be taught that. Is that a good squad, too? They're pretty good. Yeah, they're a pretty good team. You know, Sean Lee? We're not worried about nothing. Penn State? We're not worried about nothing.

19:57We're going to give Austin Kolonkowski the ball. We should think about maybe giving Austin Kolonkowski the ball. and Johnny Nonnenberg spinning it. The boys are ready for the moment. Congrats to Plum getting a miraculous win here. Blocked kick. Kicker picks it up. Go ahead and let me grab this. Penn Hills guy has him immediately. That's illegal. What's illegal? Being too strong? Being too strong? We're not going to get into that. Shout out to high school football showing up. And number two headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes is we're running it back, back, back, back, back, back, back to the 80s.

20:30Nice. Hell yeah. Running backs are leading the top teams in the league. Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts, absolutely insane. James Cook, obviously absurd with the Bills. And guess who's back? Back, back, back, back, back again. Saquon Barkley had his day yesterday. A.J. Brown not playing because of a hamstring injury. And against the New York Giants, obviously massive rivalry in the beautiful Kelly Green uniforms, which the Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated in. Saquon Barkley found his groove. Saquon got all the way back to who he was last year whenever he led them to a Super Bowl.

21:02And the offensive line, same damn thing. Jalen Hurts obviously under center a bit more is the stats that you're going to hear from Dan Orlovsky in the second hour because he's been calling for this for a while. But it feels like the Eagles might have got their groove back, D. Bush. Yeah, sometimes just take that one big player, that one big game, and definitely Saquon had it. These Kelly Green jerseys are unbelievable. So clean. I believe they moved to 5-0 now while wearing these. Not only did he have these jerseys on, but he had those sweet LeBron cleats on that he was gracing the matting cover with.

21:30A lot of people are saying, hey, this is a Madden curse coming in for 2-6, but hopefully he lifted that curse off of him with this game. Yeah, it was some more under the center, some extra alignment stuff. So, love to see it. Interesting to see how they handled the A.J. Brown situation going forward. Yeah, a lot of conversation around that, obviously. Saquon Barkley rush yards under center snaps. This is from Hembo. Weeks one through seven, 102 yards. Week eight alone, 116 yards. So, you know, Petulo's trying to get his feet up on him. He's doing that a lot going on. And they started figuring it out.

21:58And this is an Eagles team. I think we all understand with the amount of talent that they have, that if they do figure it out, right back in Super Bowl conversations, even though everybody's trying to bury them all the time. And the number one headline coming out of the weekend, as we all knew, talking about Super Bowl. The Colts going in. The Colts going in Super Bowl. This is just, I think seven out of the eight weeks we've done this first 15, this has been the number one headline, strictly because I've been watching every single snap, so it's a pretty biased program. My name's in it, I apologize.

22:25These dudes are unbelievable. They don't really have a flaw right now, honestly. We lose to the Rams. That's our only loss. And we all understand what happened in that game. We certainly should have won that. Los Angeles Rams took advantage of the situation and definitely won. That guy right there, though, seemingly untackleable. He's on pace to break every record there is. Four games with three-plus touchdowns. Okay. That's just absolutely insanity. He has more touchdowns than some teams as a whole. And that means the offensive line is back to doing what they're doing. And we all saw a screenshot of one of the holes that he had to hit yesterday.

22:54I mean, there's an actual freight train that is possible to go through. The offensive line have taken a lot of pride in what they're doing this year. Yeah, I mean, that is – now, granted, I'm not saying that Jonathan Taylor isn't unbelievable and Jonathan Taylor finds holes that might appear to be this big. But if you give Jonathan Taylor this hole right here, I mean, yeah, we're going to be okay. And that's what Saquon was last year with Philadelphia. It feels like that's what our offense is matching up. And Danny Dimes is putting us in the right situation every time. I mean, this guy is a super genius.

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23:22And just every throw, he's seemingly going to the right place. He very rarely misses. And then Michael Pittman Jr. has one of the nicest touchdown catches of all time. I'm down here in the corner, can't see it all. I see that guy draped over top of him. I just flagged, thank you. We're about to have first down on the one that's amazing. And then you hear everybody go crazy. And I turn my back. No way this dude got this. They showed six highlights of this thing in the stadium immediately. Great work by the stadium operators. Every angle looked better. The first angle was insane. Second angle, he's like, that is clearly a one-handed catch that he goes through.

23:54guy third angle it's like what his other hand was doing in there it's like this guy is an absolute dog has been willing to sacrifice his whole body on the field last year when the colts were what they were which i think everybody in that locker room now would come to grips with maybe they weren't operating like a professional football team in all aspects especially with what they've been able to do this year it's unbelievable pitman in the middle of that run full dolphin dive in the middle his body gets bent backwards folded in half gets off oh goes back out there does it again this guy will lay his body on the line first alec pierce as well it's just like tyler warren is outrageous and then on defensive side we got to tighten some things up of course felt like the titans had some opportunities and uh we didn't know what they were doing i mean there was a couple plays where maybe they got lou where we had a bad call and boy they had a good play call on their side, and Cam Ward was able to make some big-time plays.

24:48But, like, the Colts are very comfortable with where they're at right now, and I think they're all talking the same way. They know that they've got a lot of shit still to prove. And the MVP chants were very real for Jonathan Taylor yesterday, D-Butt. Yeah, he's unbelievable. The combination of speed, power, vision, like, once he gets to that second or third level, just very like Saquon was last year, it can go for a home run at any given time. And, obviously, it starts with the offensive line creating those gaps and then him finding them and then exploiting what happens on the back end. And then a lot of people comparing this season to Saquon's.

25:20We haven't had a non-QB MVP since 2012, and it was Adrian Peterson. But his touchdown total, already up to 14. I think Saquon had 15, a total of all last year. You know, Jalen Hurts stole a bunch of them with the quarterback sneaks. But he is phenomenal, 28, unbelievable with a long list of great running backs that have played for the organization. He's kind of the next one up. And then you talked about Daniel Jones. just complete control of the offense. You saw plenty of time with like less than, you know, 12 or 10 seconds on the clock, and he's making some last-minute audible. And the guys around him, it's like, just take your turn.

25:53It's very much like the Green Bay Packers. It's not necessarily that one guy who's going to come in and get 15 targets every Sunday, but Pittman, Pierce, Downs, when it's his turn, Warren, whenever it's his turn. These guys just shows up, and Daniel Jones has been doing a great job putting the ball on him, just controlling the game in every aspect. man, I absolutely love what I'm seeing from this Indianapolis Colts team. And one of the things that we were so excited about with Anthony Richardson was the fact that he was mobile. If you go back to that photo of the wide open, big gaping hole that JT ran through, the threat of Danny Dimes being mobile is one thing.

26:27Even if you look on the right side, they're like, that guy is moving right because they think, hey, maybe Dimes has this on a boot. Maybe he's running the ball. And that is opening up things even more for JT. So just Danny Dimes being out there is how JT is. and obviously with Philadelphia at the beginning of this whole thing, saw the benefits of Jalen, what Jalen had, which I think is why Anthony Richardson was so enticing for the Indianapolis Colts. It's like, hey, look what Shane was able to do with Jalen. Anthony Richardson, we should be able to do that. Not giving up on Anthony Richardson, but it certainly didn't click with Shane Steichen's offense as quick, and obviously with the injuries, didn't really have that much of an opportunity.

27:00But Danny Dimes is a more than suitable runner. And I think that was where a lot of people were like, are we going Anthony Richardson or Danny Dimes? Who's going to be the starter for this team? And they're like, well, the future of the NFL, you got to be able to run. It's like, hey, I understand he looks like he's like maybe a farmer or a banker, depending upon how he's dressed on the day. And he doesn't give much reaction. Doesn't give much reaction. They put a camera on him. So they did an in-stadium entertainment. You know, the helmet shuffle. Sure. I think it's the best one. I think the helmet shuffle is the best one.

27:30There's an overrated, underrated one. Then there's like a celebrity lookalike one where they go around the entire place. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. Last one, Indiana Jones pops up. And everybody starts getting a sense of what's happening. Offense is on the field. This is in the middle of the game. Second quarter, maybe. Middle of the game. And then they slide it over, and there's just this clip. Boom. Close up on Daniel Jones. Place goes absolutely apeshit for him, right? He looks up for like half a second, sees himself. Oh, no. Head back down. Starts like jogging in place. Starts like working back.

27:56Place is going absolutely apeshit for him. And he's just like completely locked in. Doesn't even acknowledge it. You can see there's a little blushing, maybe. Like a little bit of this is not like the most comfortable. But right back into the huddle, and I think the next play, we're off and running. And it's like he's just locked in. I think he's so calloused from what happened to him. He got his ass beat in New York, both physically and also through the media. This guy stinks. What a bust. Let alone the hard knock shit. You get rid of Saquon, guy goes and has an MVP year. Why? Because we bet on this guy.

28:24It's just like he has been hardened by it all, and we are reaping the benefits of it. And his next contract they're talking about is about to be big. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Michigan man who can certainly help us fill in the gaps on anything that we miss. We appreciate the hell out of him. An overreaction Monday, first 15 regular. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Hey, Schefter! Schefter, how you doing, buddy? Oh, that's a beautiful jacket, Pat. Very stylish. Very stylish. Muchos gracias. This is from NFL Mexico, obviously. It feels delightful.

28:58It's hot as hell in here. I am sweating, but we will certainly represent and continue to do so. What do we need to know coming out of yesterday? Obviously, the Scadaboo injury was very scary. Complete dislocation. It looked nasty. Obviously, any time that takes place, people don't love it. Is there any other stories that maybe we didn't hit there over the top five headlines that you have out of a blowout Sunday for the NFL? You know, as you guys get ready to play in your Super Bowl parade, there's a few things I did want to point out there going on with Indianapolis. Daniel Jones has played six games in which he hasn't turned over the football at all.

29:31At all. And Jonathan Taylor is on pace right now for 28 touchdowns this season, which is pretty good. 28 touchdowns. You get 28 touchdowns, you generally should win an MVP. LaDainian Tomlinson, I think, has the record more than that. But he has to be considered an MVP candidate. The issue is, as D-Bub pointed out, the last 12 MVPs have all been quarterbacks. It's turned into, generally speaking, a quarterback award. And I would imagine before the season is through, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, some other quarterbacks will have something to say about whether or not Jonathan Taylor does win the MVP.

30:11But today, on October 27th, Jonathan Taylor is the MVP. Today, absolutely. The guy's been incredible. He has been speed, power, production, everything you'd want. But again, let's see if one of these quarterbacks overtakes him for what has become the most valuable quarterback, not the most valuable player award in the last 12 years. His celebration, too. There was a toddler race as one of the breaks. Yeah, I think like three-year-old, maybe three or four-year-olds racing against each other. And the little boy that won the race, he did the Jonathan Taylor. Filthy. He did the Jonathan Taylor as a celebration.

30:46I thought to myself, it's like he has a clean celebration. Also doable. You know, like the celebration is doable. we've all seen people try to attempt the gritty okay gesicki and others okay and there's certainly people that are great at the gritty this one looks great seemingly can do it as well everything about him right now is uh throwing 110 and i think he's capable of doing it all year tough guy had a couple injuries but before that literally never missed the game he's all the way back to being exactly who we thought he was now speaking of being all the way back there's a thursday night game go ahead Ty yeah Shefty do you have more information on the uh the Ravens whole ordeal with basically retroactively uh changing Lamar's practice status on Friday obviously a lot of people were up in arms about that are they gonna uh are the Ravens gonna face some serious repercussions here for how this went down or what more do you know about this situation oh the league is going to conduct interviews this week the Ravens continue to insist that it was an honest mistake in their words and it was an accident and they don't believe that they did anything wrong here.

31:47Now, the league will obviously talk to enough people and make a determination about whether or not a fine is warranted in this particular case. I don't think if the league finds wrongdoing that they're going to go more than a fine, but we'll see how this works out. This comes, obviously, at a time in the sports world where there is a lot of attention on injury reports now. And I would imagine that you're going to see more and more attention paid to this, that the league is going to be very sensitive to teams reporting accurate, honest injury information as we go along. They don't want anything like what's happened here in sports the last week.

32:26And so I think the penalties could be tied to that. My guess is there'll be a fine. The league will do the interviews this week and they'll make a determination about whether or not there is a basis for a fine or some sort of discipline.

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