In short
“Overreaction Monday” NFL recap and preview focused on blowout Sunday results, Steelers-Packers defensive breakdown, Packers QB Jordan Love’s performance, plus upcoming MNF matchup. The show also covers “National Tight Ends Day,” high school football miracles, and running-back resurgence, then shifts into Colts offense talk and an ESPN insider segment with Adam Schefter.
Guest backgrounds
- Dan Orlovsky (NFL analyst/former NFL quarterback; appears in discussion about offensive trends and matchups).
- Darius J. Butler (former NFL defensive back; provides coverage/tackling analysis of Steelers vs. Packers).
- AJ Hawk (former NFL linebacker; discusses Jets-Bengals game and high school/NFL storylines).
- Lane Kiffin (Ole Miss head coach; referenced as a guest in the episode title).
- Trinidad Chambliss (Ole Miss QB; referenced in the episode title).
- Adam Schefter (ESPN senior NFL insider; provides injury/reporting and league-discipline context).
Key claims
- Steelers defense is “horrendous,” citing multiple games allowing 30+ points and heavy issues with tackling and coverage; Packers exploited short passing and after-catch yardage.
- Packers’ Jordan Love looked like a “gunslinger,” completing 20 straight passes and benefiting from Tucker Kraft’s big night and Christian Watson’s return after an ACL tear.
- Sunday slate was historically lopsided: only one close game (Jets 39–38 Bengals); otherwise “shite” blowouts.
- Colts offense is clicking: Daniel Jones has six games with zero turnovers; Jonathan Taylor is framed as MVP-caliber (on pace for 28 TDs).
- Ravens’ Lamar practice status: league will interview; likely fine if wrongdoing found.
Notable examples
- Steelers-Packers: Packers win in the “Aaron Rodgers Bowl”; Steelers allowed 702 passing yards with six TDs and only two sacks in two games.
- National Tight Ends Day: Tucker Kraft’s standout; list of other tight ends highlighted (e.g., George Kittle, Travis Kelsey mentioned).
- High school: Eastbrook vs Alexandria ends with a late untimed-down sequence, then overtime; Eastbrook stays undefeated.
- Jets-Bengals: only one-score game of the day (39–38).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONFL Week 8 Recap
0:45 to 2:15
Discussion about the outcomes of NFL games from the previous day.
“We have shite uniforms on Sunday Night Football.”
Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers
2:15 to 4:11
In-depth analysis of the Steelers' loss to the Packers, focusing on defense issues.
“And Tucker Craft goes bananas for the Green Bay Packers.”
Jordan Love's Performance
4:11 to 6:20
Analysis of Jordan Love's performance against the Steelers and his relationship with Aaron Rodgers.
“And Jordan Love, you know, showing that gunslinger mentality that he certainly has, just like some of the Green Bay Packers quarterback times of the past.”
Brett Michaels' Halftime Performance
6:20 to 7:46
Discussion on Brett Michaels' halftime performance and its impact on the game.
“Yeah, these are the temperature-gauging games.”
First 15 Segment Introduction
7:46 to 9:33
Introduction to the first 15-minute segment summarizing NFL headlines.
“And he's looking down while he's doing it.”
NFL Week 8 Highlights
9:33 to 14:01
Reading through scores and highlights from NFL games, emphasizing the surprising blowouts.
“On that note, it's time for us to do our first 15.”
NFL Week 8 Overview
14:01 to 16:40
An analysis of the NFL Week 8 games, focusing on surprising results and standout moments.
“There's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday.”
National Tight Ends Day
16:41 to 22:41
A celebration of National Tight Ends Day and the significance of tight ends in football.
High School Football Miracles
22:42 to 28:00
A recount of incredible high school football moments, focusing on Eastbrook and Alexandria.
“Alexandria needs the win to move on in the playoffs.”
High School Football Rivalries
28:00 to 30:07
Discussion on the Plum and Penn Hills high school football rivalry, including notable players and games.
“Penn Hills has always been better than Paul.”
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NFL Week 8 Highlights
30:07 to 33:48
Overview of standout performances and key players from NFL Week 8, focusing on running backs.
“Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts.”
Daniel Jones and the Colts' Performance
33:48 to 38:10
Analysis of Daniel Jones' performance and the overall strong showing of the Colts, including stats and strategies.
“And Cam Ward was able to make some big-time plays.”
Injury Reports and NFL Updates
38:38 to 42:01
Discussion on injury reports, the Ravens' situation, and implications for the league and teams.
“What do we need to know coming out of yesterday?”
NFL Week 8 Recap: Historical Insights
42:01 to 44:41
Discusses the surprising outcomes and stats from NFL Week 8, including penalties and team performances.
“And so I think the penalties could be tied to that.”
Upcoming NFL Trade Deadline Speculations
44:41 to 45:58
Analyzes potential trades leading up to the NFL trade deadline, focusing on key players and teams.
“A YouTube TV commercial running right now is hilarious, especially with everything that happened over the weekend.”
Patriots and Vikings: Trade Possibilities
45:58 to 47:59
Explores the situations of the Patriots and Vikings and their potential trades as they approach the deadline.
“Dolphins are on a short week this week, so it might be tough to make a move this week, but then would be ideal timing after a Thursday night game to see if they can make a move after that.”
Quarterback Injury Updates
47:59 to 50:58
Provides updates on key quarterback injuries and their implications for the upcoming games.
“I think we have the second most money right now or the first.”
Injury Reports and Game Previews
50:58 to 52:52
Discusses injury reports for both teams ahead of Monday Night Football, highlighting key players.
“But in a situation like the Ravens, like you want your star quarterback back, that was kind of the conversation outside of that building too, where the Ravens trying to almost force Lamar to get in there.”
World Series and NFL Insights
52:52 to 56:00
Connects the ongoing World Series with the current NFL narrative, discussing matchups and performances.
“You think the shite weekend continues tonight or no?”
NFL and World Series Discussion
56:00 to 56:50
Exploration of the overlap between NFL games and the World Series, with thoughts on scheduling.
“41 years old starting in the World Series.”
Previewing Monday Night Football
57:20 to 58:10
Anticipation for the upcoming NFL game featuring the Commanders and Chiefs.
“Storm, zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine, and immunity support.”
Analysis of NFL Week 8 Performances
58:10 to 1:00:15
A look at the performances from NFL Week 8, including insights on various teams and players.
“Could this be yet another blowout for the NFL to have to put their PR machine on?”
Discussion on Tucker Craft's Impact
1:00:15 to 1:02:10
Insights into Tucker Craft's background and his performance in the NFL, highlighting his uniqueness.
“we can't win the Super Bowl, which is what you guys did last night.”
A.J. Hawk Joins the Conversation
1:02:10 to 1:05:15
A.J. Hawk discusses the Packers and the significance of Tucker Craft's contributions.
“Now, on that note, we see another large head like this on a daily basis.”
Referee Controversies and Eagles' Strategy
1:05:15 to 1:10:00
Debate on recent referee calls and the implications for the Eagles' game strategy.
“Like the Lions are, they were on the bye, so we're just kind of like, forget the Lions.”
Giants Fans React to Controversial Call
1:10:00 to 1:10:50
Discussion around a controversial play affecting the Giants and NFL officiating.
“Yeah, just when it's in the field of play, call it as a football play.”
Analyzing the Tush Push Play
1:11:08 to 1:12:24
Dan shares his thoughts on the controversial tush push play and its implications.
“Thanks for joining us, Dan, from the back of a very nice SUV, it appears.”
Previewing Commanders vs Chiefs
1:12:24 to 1:13:36
Discussion about the upcoming Monday Night Football game between the Commanders and Chiefs.
“So this play for me has got to be one that we move away from.”
Evaluating Jordan Love's Performance
1:13:36 to 1:16:29
Dan Orlovsky evaluates Jordan Love's growth and performance against the Steelers.
“This is a Washington defense that has just really struggled, and Kansas City has absolutely hit its stride offensively in the last month or so.”
CJ Stroud's Best Game Yet
1:16:29 to 1:17:54
Dan discusses CJ Stroud's standout performance and the Texans' offensive dynamics.
“I love the way that Jordan's been playing this year.”
Ravens' Position in the AFC North
1:17:54 to 1:19:21
Discussion on the Ravens' position and expectations in the AFC North.
“So the two young receivers, CJ was outstanding when it came to just playing warm and playing on time.”
Assessing Caleb Williams' Development
1:19:21 to 1:22:28
Analysis of Caleb Williams' performance and areas for improvement.
“Chicago really didn't have any plan for what pressure was going to look like or how to pick it up.”
Drake May's Rise and Patriots' Future
1:22:28 to 1:24:01
Discussion on Drake May's impressive play and potential impact on the Patriots.
“Yeah, Dano, there are a couple guys, specifically Drake May, though.”
Analyzing New England's Offense
1:24:01 to 1:25:20
Learn about the complexities and strategies of the New England offense.
“I fudging love what's going on in New England.”
Drake May's Impressive Performance
1:25:21 to 1:26:36
Discover how Drake May is excelling in his NFL debut.
“talking about the completion percentage.”
Myles Garrett's Impact on the Game
1:26:37 to 1:27:48
Explore how Myles Garrett's pressure affected the quarterback's performance.
“And then that one play there we showed, third and 23, very good Cleveland Browns defense.”
Miami Dolphins' Dominant Victory
1:27:49 to 1:30:16
Discuss the Miami Dolphins' performance against the Atlanta Falcons.
“Jaden Daniels turned 24 during his rookie year, but you mentioned it with Myles Garrett.”
Trends in NFL Offensive Strategies
1:30:17 to 1:31:49
Learn about current trends in NFL offensive strategies and formations.
“Let's go back to Gumpy, Miami Dolphins superfan.”
International Football and Fan Engagement
1:31:50 to 1:34:30
Understand the efforts to promote football internationally and engage fans.
“It looks like it's a little gloomy-doomy.”
Brian Kelly's Controversial Coaching Tenure
1:34:31 to 1:36:21
Analyze Brian Kelly's stint at LSU and the factors that led to his firing.
“and the happiness level of the American football fans because UK and Europe didn't provide a morning game yesterday?”
Best College Football Coaching Jobs Today
1:36:22 to 1:38:01
Discuss the most desirable coaching positions in college football right now.
“And then you go to LSU, which the three previous coaches before him all won national championships, right?”
College Football Buyouts and Recent Wins
1:38:01 to 1:39:40
Discussion about coaching buyouts and recent college football games, including Ole Miss's victory over Oklahoma.
“when you're at a school like Florida situation.”
Interview with Lane Kiffin
1:39:41 to 1:41:43
Lane Kiffin discusses the motivation behind his team's recent win and the impact of public perception on his players.
“obviously football coaching legend, Lane Kiffin.”
Trinidad Chambliss Joins the Conversation
1:41:44 to 1:43:42
Trinidad Chambliss talks about his journey, recent performances, and the team's mentality following their win.
“amount of dog that was in you, Trinidad.”
Handling Coaching Rumors and Player Reactions
1:43:43 to 1:45:40
Lane Kiffin addresses how he communicates with his team regarding coaching rumors and player reactions to their success.
“Your name gets brought up for all of these things.”
Interacting with Players During Games
1:45:41 to 1:48:40
Kiffin shares insights on his engaging interactions with players on the field and how that fosters team spirit.
“What kind of happened before the cameras caught you before you got to that interview?”
Success Stories and Jackson Dart's Progress
1:48:41 to 1:51:36
Kiffin reflects on the progress of quarterback Jackson Dart and the importance of relationships in coaching.
“but you guys are pretty much through the the real teeth of your conference schedule right now.”
Remembering Nick Mangold
1:52:00 to 1:55:09
Reflecting on the legacy and impact of Nick Mangold after his passing.
“So I'm just so happy to see him, just like he would be as a dad.”
Remembering Nick Mangold
1:55:12 to 1:55:30
Reflecting on the legacy and impact of Nick Mangold after his passing.
“You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new.”
Previewing Monday Night Football
1:56:20 to 1:57:50
Discussion about the upcoming Monday Night Football game and predictions.
“The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and Natai Schmidt.”
Analyzing Betting Odds
1:57:50 to 2:00:00
Breaking down the betting odds and public money for the game tonight.
“There is a 10 out there if you're interested in the Chiefs.”
Game Strategy and Player Performances
2:00:00 to 2:04:22
In-depth analysis of player performances and game strategies for tonight.
“Commanders plus 10.5, even though he thinks the Chiefs are going to win by a lot.”
Fun Stories and Athletic Skills
2:04:22 to 2:06:00
Light-hearted discussion about sports experiences and skills.
“And then as you're whipping up, obviously, It's like a catapult.”
Basketball Hoop Discussions
2:06:00 to 2:07:08
The hosts engage in a lighthearted debate about basketball hoops and dunking.
“You can leave it at 10 foot and I can get lay-in tips all day long.”
NBA Players and Performances
2:07:08 to 2:08:20
Conversations shift to current NBA players, including Wemby and Austin Reeves.
“And just the thought of you guys just trying to shack that thing is a little scary.”
NBA Highlights and Rookie Performances
2:08:20 to 2:11:04
Discussion on rookie performances and the excitement surrounding the NBA season.
“I don't think that footage has actually been released yet.”
Corruption in Soccer Refereeing
2:11:04 to 2:12:02
Hosts discuss corruption scandals in soccer, particularly involving Turkish referees.
“Well, AJ, AJ, the way you said that, I know what you were trying to do right there.”
Referees and Sports Integrity
2:12:02 to 2:13:46
Further exploration of sports integrity issues and refereeing controversies.
“But in these sports where, like, anything is a penalty, basically.”
MLS Cup and Soccer Updates
2:13:46 to 2:15:41
The hosts discuss the ongoing MLS Cup and various soccer highlights.
“I'm still going to watch it, every one of them, but I won't bet it anymore.”
High School Football Highlights
2:15:41 to 2:19:25
The conversation shifts to high school football, highlighting amazing plays and players.
“The Plum Mustangs boys and girls soccer team in the playoffs, they're problematic.”
Overreaction Monday Introduction
2:19:25 to 2:20:01
Introduction to Overreaction Monday and gathering fan sentiments about teams.
“Huge weekend in Pittsburgh for football.”
Therapy Through Tweets
2:20:01 to 2:21:02
Fans express their frustrations and joys through social media during NFL season.
“This ended up being number two overall trend, I believe, which we are incredibly thankful that everybody participates.”
Pittsburgh Steelers Defense Discussion
2:21:02 to 2:22:38
Analyzing the struggles of the Steelers defense in recent games.
“You read that very well, and you put the emphasis on all the right syllables because that's how it felt typing that out.”
Jonathan Taylor's Impact
2:22:38 to 2:24:37
Discussing Jonathan Taylor's exceptional performance and its influence on the Colts.
“That is a great point that I forgot to say.”
Indiana Football Culture and Coaching
2:24:37 to 2:27:26
Examining the culture and coaching style of Indiana football under Sig.
“This is twice now at home where they should beat teams, and they don't just beat them.”
Nate Bargetzi's Comedy and Performance
2:27:26 to 2:29:16
Highlighting Nate Bargetzi's talent and performance in his recent shows.
“And it feels like he finds everybody with chips on their shoulder, kind of overlooked, and then he coaches the hell out of them.”
Ohio State Buckeyes Under the Radar
2:29:16 to 2:34:00
Discussing the Ohio State Buckeyes and their unnoticed dominance in college football.
“I don't know how his picks did, but I appreciated that every single one of them.”
Ohio State's Under-the-Radar Success
2:34:00 to 2:35:45
Discussion on Ohio State's high standards and their national perception.
“Like, I don't – Julian's saying I don't think it's the pub he deserves.”
Frustrations of Atlanta Sports Fans
2:35:46 to 2:37:23
A dive into the woes of Atlanta sports teams, particularly the Falcons.
“Ownership, coaches, starters, and the most expensive backup ever.”
Nostalgia of Cash Money vs. No Limit
2:37:24 to 2:39:38
Recollections and excitement surrounding the Cash Money and No Limit versus event.
“I remember when every song that this group of people put out was just hype as fuck.”
Concerns About Louisiana Football
2:39:39 to 2:42:37
Discussion on the struggles of Louisiana football and coaching concerns.
“Like just going back in time, basically.”
Panthers and Bills Overreactions
2:42:38 to 2:45:46
Analysis of overreactions surrounding the Panthers' performance and the Bills' game.
“Wasn't that the expectation going in, though, that they weren't going to be good, right?”
Eagles and Cowboys Fan Sentiments
2:45:47 to 2:48:00
Exploration of the sentiments from Eagles and Cowboys fans regarding their teams.
“That kind of snuck in the wire on Saturday.”
Overreaction Monday: Coaches and Fans
2:48:00 to 2:53:22
Exploring fan reactions and coaching decisions in football.
“But also, don't love at all what this guy's doing as the head coach of this entire thing.”
Tucker Craft's Impact on the League
2:53:22 to 2:56:49
Discussing Tucker Craft's performance and standout traits.
“Good luck tonight, AJ, with your Kansas City Chiefs minus 10.”
Aaron Rodgers and Steelers Defense
2:56:49 to 3:00:19
Analyzing Aaron Rodgers' performance and Steelers' defensive struggles.
“I was looking for a breeze when I had that thing on.”
Reflection on Nick's Impact
3:00:19 to 3:01:08
Sharing thoughts on the legacy of a recently lost friend.
“So, I know it's not easy, but I I think it's good for people to hear, you know.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this massive overreaction Monday October 27th 2025 this program begins now. Football is fabulous isn't it until you have a slate like yesterday that is certainly not desirable. Now there was obviously a close game the rest of the slate was absolute shite now that's good news if you're on the winning side terrible news if you're on the losing side and tonight Don't look now. 11.5 point spread we're staring at. So will this be the week of blowouts? We shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to you, boys.
0:39Pat McAfee:Big wins yesterday. Thank you. You too. It was well. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP 10. Oh, no. We have shite uniforms on Sunday Night Football. Brett Michaels didn't bring his A game. Not what we said. Some people that were there said they couldn't hear him as good throughout the entire stadium. So maybe that shifted the momentum at halftime to what it became. But the Pittsburgh Steelers lose to the Green Bay Packers in the Aaron Rodgers Bowl. Although Akersher certainly had the environment of a massive game. The field looked much worse than it seemed to have played last night.
1:15Pat McAfee:But the game ends with the Green Bay Packers getting a huge win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go to a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Tone, how's life right now? Everything okay over there after a primetime loss? Yep. Yep.
1:31Darius Butler:Um, no. No, it's not all right. I wish I was in your guys' spot, you know, celebrating blowout wins and happy. But no, it was just another primetime loss and a sleepless night. And now I'm starting the week on a bad foot. It's just not good.
1:48Pat McAfee:Okay, yeah, well, you're not the only one. I think there's a lot of people in Pittsburgh saying this is exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. It's exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. We were sold a brand new bill of goods here because Aaron Rodgers coming in here. And Aaron, obviously a Hall of Famer and incredible. He's doing his thing. But now if it's not the offense, what happened to the defense? It feels like for the last eight, nine years, since seven retired, there's never really been hope that you could win a Super Bowl with the team that's on the field. But you could certainly win games, which the Pittsburgh Steelers have done.
2:13Pat McAfee:Can you win the big one? Here's a big one in the middle of the season. And Tucker Craft goes bananas for the Green Bay Packers. And Jordan Love obviously spins it. But the defense for Green Bay does enough. And for Pittsburgh's side, the defense seemingly the problem throughout the entirety of the season on display last night, or is it just, hey, you played a good Green Bay Packers team. This is a good team.
2:32Darius Butler:No, I wish it was just that. I believe that's four games now that they've let up 30 points this season, which hasn't happened since 2003, I believe, 2004, right before we got the honor of drafting 1-7 Ben Roethlisberger. So the defense is horrendous. They basically took the same game plan as the Bengals and said, hey, we're not going to give the D-line any chance to get to the quarterback. We're going to throw short stuff. And then the Steelers don't know how to tackle. 235 yards after catch, I believe, at one point of Jordan Love's 315 yards. So a bit of insanity there.
3:01Pat McAfee:That was at one point. It ended with 244 yards after contact or catch. In total versus Packers, most in any regular season game under Mike Tomlin. In his last two games, Joey Flack and Jordan Love. Pittsburgh was allowed 702 passing yards with six touchdowns and only two sacks on 86 dropbacks. That's from Hembo. We appreciate the hell out of him. Let's go to a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. here. D-Buch obviously make a living in the secondary. Is that all tackling? Like what's going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers right now? Yeah, whenever you see all that yak, it's definitely bad tackling, bad coverage.
3:33And also Jordan Love just being hot. You know, 20 straight completions on his, on the way to throwing for 360 yards. And it wasn't a bunch of dink and dunks, you know, screens or little short routes. Like he was actually throwing up there, putting the balls kind of in harm's way. And his receivers were making plays. Tucker Craft obviously had a phenomenal night on national tight end day. And then Watson. I mean, Christian Watson made his presence felt all night long coming back after a week 18 ACL tear, I believe. He's a deep threat, has been since stepping into the National Football League. He was a big threat.
4:05Just all around. Love was feeling it, man. I'm sure it meant a ton to him going against his predecessor on the other sideline. What a play right there.
4:13Pat McAfee:And Jordan Love, you know, showing that gunslinger mentality that he certainly has, just like some of the Green Bay Packers quarterback times of the past. Ty, whenever you're watching this Packers team, this gets you excited for a big-time win like this. LaFleur also seemingly handled the entire moment perfectly. Him and Aaron Rodgers had their moment beforehand. Jordan Love, you talk about his relationship with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron said to Chris Collinsworth, I believe, that normally they text back and forth. This week they did not talk to each other. The only time they talked in pregame was at the captain's coin toss as well.
4:41Pat McAfee:Felt like they were both pretty locked in. Jordan Love needed it, do you think? You think Jordan Love needed it? Not that it would make or break his entire thing. That was a big one, though, I think, for Jordan Love, Kai Schmidt. Yeah, massive, because even really, I mean, you know, there was some chatter about him, but coming in, it was all about Rodgers playing his former team. It really, there really wasn't that much of like, hey, Jordan Love quietly is having a very good year, and this would be a massive notch in his belt. But this is kind of like, you know, he's been a little inconsistent, and that's what Packers fans, like, they've seen glimpses of this.
5:11And that's why it's like last night for him to complete 20 consecutive passes and just take the game over. Yeah, I mean, this is the team we saw the first couple weeks, I think. Last night, big moment, big stage, and it brought it out in them. But, you know, it's the same deal. They didn't look good in the first half. That's what we were saying. You know, I don't want to say it, but Brett Michaels may have single-handedly lost the Steelers the game. What? Going into halftime after the Packers, you know, missed the field goal. McManus, I don't know what's going on there. He might still have something with his.
5:43Yeah, 57 short. That's not McManus. No, no. That's not him. And then he missed another one. Yeah, exactly.
5:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, which affects everything. So we'll see. But after that, going into the half, I was like, oh, boy, this thing could get ugly quick. That felt good. And luckily, you know, when the Packers have needed to turn it on this year in moments like that, they've done that. And, yeah, love was just tremendous. And this defense, you know, just week after week, I mean, they did enough last night, but they played so good in the second half. Micah, Rashawn Gary. So, yeah, as opposed to the last couple weeks when I woke up on Monday morning and being like, man, I just don't know about this team. I feel very good today.
6:18This is the team I saw the first two weeks.
6:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, these are the temperature-gauging games. Whenever it's some other team that you expect to be around in the end, you would like to see where your team is at right now. A lot of football left, obviously. And shout-out to Billy Bones, Pittsburgh Steelers diehard fan there, with the video of Brett Michaels performing at halftime. Also said maybe the audio wasn't perfect, which is why you're talking about it. The Ingers wanted to sing along with Brett. Yeah, exactly. They wanted to get after it with Brett. And maybe the echo, maybe where he was at, whatever the case, wasn't perfect for all parties in the building, would it ever be?
6:47Pat McAfee:And Brett Michaels still brought it. I saw him twirling terrible towel, too. He was getting after it. So I don't think it's on him like you tried to make it out to be. But it was certainly a different half in the second one. Go ahead, comment. Did you get that jacket from Brett Michaels? Where did that come from? I'll tell you what. I think Brett Michaels, a man of style, would certainly maybe wear this jacket here. This is from NFL Mexico. Make sure you tag them if we post about this. Yeah, NFL Mexico was on the field yesterday at the Loud House, watching the Indianapolis Colts do what the Indianapolis Colts have been doing this season, too.
7:13Pat McAfee:the Tennessee Titans, which we'll talk more about here. And Raul from NFL Mexico, who we met down at Super Bowl Radio Row, if you do recall, was there. He was on site. And I was chit-chatting with some folks. There's always like a reunion before the games where our suite is. The view that we had of Jonathan Taylor down that sideline. That was literally... Unbelievable. No, no, away. So watching his toes, literally just watching his toes from where ours... Yeah, so we're right down. We're literally on the other side. I'm watching right down that sideline, like actually right down that sideline.
7:47Pat McAfee:I have no idea how he stayed in. His little toes. I don't know. And he's looking down while he's doing it. That would naturally drive you normally. Your head and eyes go a certain way. He is outraged. This guy is outraged. This was the second. He would have a third, obviously, another one. This was only his 80-yard run. This guy, absolutely outrageous. But I'm watching it. From where we're at, there was a lot of talking before the game. Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Four o 'clock game, too. A lot of people coming through there earlier, yada, yada, yada. Then the NFL Mexico guy comes. Bang, how you doing?
8:14Pat McAfee:Hands up. He said we're very appreciative of the conversation we had at Super Bowl. You were very kind to us or something like that. We have a few of these jackets we'd like to issue one. I've never seen a cooler jacket in my life. That's so sweet. Sick. I've never seen it. No habla? Okay. No problem. You know that's cool. Oh! What's that? La meta? Yeah. Yeah. I know what that means. Until death, I believe, is what it means. Locked in, yep. Yeah. Viva La Raza, obviously. Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, LWO. And then Hasta La Muerte. Until death, dude. Yep. I don't know if I'll be able to wear it every day until then, because it is very hot.
8:58Pat McAfee:Sure. It is very hot. Oh, man, it looks cool. And it's not a button either. It's a zip. Oh, okay. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, yeah. So this thing can get real hot if you need it.
9:07Darius Butler:I also think Dia de los Muertos is coming up, so if you want to wear it for that, too.
9:11Pat McAfee:Is that Cinco de Mayo? Oh, okay. I didn't know. I mean, I'm trying my best. I did say to my amigo Raul and I'd like to continue that. This is one of the coolest things I've ever received. Thank you for this. Shout to the game growing internationally. On that note, it's time for us to do our first 15. Now remember, this first 15, driven by Ram Trucks is certainly aiming to be a 15-minute segment, okay, where we take the top five headlines coming out of the NFL Sunday slate and we chit-chat about them. But it's not first 15 minutes necessarily. Could we please put the clock up here? It's not necessarily the first 15 minutes.
9:58Pat McAfee:It's first 15 plays with the goal to be in 15 minutes. Last week was 42 minutes. Close. We're getting better. Okay. Kind of starting to iron it down a little bit. Touchdown drive. Yeah. It was a law. Hey, this was like Texans. Yep. Methodical. That's the possession that we had, you know, that, which by the way, they're saying record breaking possession time since like 2006 Texans absolutely dominated the 49ers in entirety. So we're going to try to get through these. And last week was the first time we mentioned how long it was and we want longer than we've ever gone before. Sure. So let's just, let's try to keep this one tidy.
10:34Pat McAfee:Tidy. Tidy. Here we go. Tidy. Tidy on three. One, two, three. Tidy. Okay, here we go. Let's start with number five headlines, start to clock. An absolute shite Sunday slate. Listen, we're just going to read through the scores here, okay? We're just going to read through the scores. 38-14, 35-25, 32-13, 44-24, 30-16, 40-9, 26-15, 23-3, 38-20, 34-10. And then in a barn burner, okay, the Jets win 39-38 over the Bengals. Okay, so that's the only game that was within one score. Everything else, absolute shite across the board. And don't look now, as I mentioned, 11.5 points spread tonight. Marcus Mariota traveling into the kingdom, in the Chiefs kingdom as an 11.5 point dog.
11:22Pat McAfee:Now, we believe that this commanders team is on a good trajectory. We like what Washington's doing. We appreciate what the commanders are doing. Cliff Kingsbury's an absolute dog. The Chiefs is better than the Chiefs have been. And they're at home. And we all believe that they're probably going to win the game. And if it leads, if it's anything like what yesterday was, this might be a 35-point game. We didn't know that the NFL could produce this. We didn't know that every single game could be a blowout. We started watching those games yesterday, and it's like, you got the quad box on, and then you got Red Zone Channel.
11:54Pat McAfee:You're like, I must be missing some games. Where are these at? And you just see shite score, shite score, shite score. And it's like, well, modern NFL, there is no such thing as a shite score. Everybody can come back. They didn't. Everybody was dead early. This thing was over quick. The NFL obviously can't thrive off of this, But these are nice reminders every once in a while that any given Sunday, if you don't show up, you can get your ass beat deep. Yeah, you just mentioned this is the complete opposite of what the NFL is on a week-to-week basis. Typically, it comes down as a one-possession game.
12:22It's a two-minute drive, you know, kicking the field goal, scoring the touchdown, something like that. But just a bunch of blowouts. Probably expected the Colts Titans to be a blowout. I expect a much better game with the Broncos-Cowboys. And then the Dolphins surprisingly beat the shit out of the Falcons. So, yeah, just a surprising slate all around.
12:39Darius Butler:Yeah, we always say on any given Sunday, there's a lot of teams in this league right now who are either bad or on any given Sunday are capable of laying an egg, for sure.
12:47Pat McAfee:Well, that's – so we played the Pittsburgh Steelers and got blown out a couple times whenever we were on the Indianapolis Colts.
12:54Darius Butler:Good days.
12:55Pat McAfee:And those were good days for you, for sure. You know, it's a nice reminder whenever you ask, like – because we had a good team. Yeah. And you just get killed. And it's like you ask the coaches around those times or the players around those times, like the OGs, it's like, yeah, this could happen every week. You just get a couple guys that don't show up and play good at a couple positions. That's what the NFL is. I think that's what, like, people think these teams are shite, so people will get into the conversation. You know what? Saints would lose to Ohio State. Indiana would be able to beat the Saints or something like that.
13:23Pat McAfee:People start saying that type of stuff, especially whenever teams are terrible. Then there's always a reminder, like, hey, these are professional athletes getting paid a professional check to play football. And every once in a while, the universe comes together, and you can be great. and every once in a while the universe comes together and says you guys suck today and that can certainly happen to any team and as soon as you think uh you got it figured out like even as fans are on the outside looking in you know i thought i knew you know who the falcons were at this point you know okay maybe they're a much better team even the stillers i thought the stillers would show up the cowboys we knew their uh defense was absolute shite but i thought they could at least uh put up points offensively and kind of getting a shootout with the broncos so yeah a lot of question marks still next to a lot of these teams up there staff from hembo and ESPN research.
14:05Pat McAfee:There's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday. Sunday was the first day with one or zero games decided by single digits since December 20th, 1970! Come on! It's emerging. Shite indeed! Good addition. Dude, that's almost Austin Muerte. Yeah, that's true. That is almost Austin Muerte, dude. Okay, so what's shite indeed, says Hembo, which we agree, Hembo. Shite indeed. I didn't read the 1970 part of that stat. I just did the whole, that's a long time of football not being shite. We were there for it. Yeah. Hell yeah. Hey, we lived through it.
14:41Darius Butler:Yep. Yep. COVID?
14:42Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. Okay. I was of the age, you know, 2001, lived through that. Sure. Worst football game of all time, or worst football Sunday of all time, basically. Jeez. We were a part of that for the NFL. Well, and the real kicker is, you know, typically if we have a shite slate, there's still like maybe one or two games where they'll at least be close, you know, going down the stretch. I mean, Jets-Bangles, like, that was just like, hey, you have Reds on. I'm like, oh, wow, Jets are starting to come back a little bit. Like, I wasn't paying any attention to that game, and it turns out to be by far the best game of the day.
15:16Pat McAfee:Shout out, there's a lot of potential, you know, spiritual stuff with that particular game, too, for Jets legend Nick Mangold passing away. We would like to send our condolences and positive prayers and vibes, obviously, to his family. he and A.J. Hawk were like I think best friends since their kids same high school obviously roommates at Ohio State so we've learned a lot about Nick Mangold got to know him a lot absolute legend of a human everything you hear about him just know that it's in every aspect of his life oh this guy was a great teammate oh this guy's a great business partner oh this guy's a great dad this guy's a great husband this guy's great everything about him was great we had a chance uh to catch up with him a couple weeks ago when everything was going on and I was trying to get some more information on how we could help maybe on the program and just chat with him still talking shit still quick the beard was still good i mean they just you're talking utter surprise here uh society has lost a great man so the jets getting a huge win on that day was cool that was like cool to see that was on now i don't think anybody was expecting a 39 38 win but that being the only game that was really in it stinks for the nfl but boy if you're on one of those winning teams let's enjoy it let's enjoy these because you know most games very scary ah are we gonna to lose this or are we going to win just being able to about third quarter to say we're way better in this game let's go ahead and enjoy this little rest of starters yeah you had to call the game for the colts titans uh i assume you did a great job i haven't gone back and listened to it but the boys uh we had an ear on it so we could pull any clips for it you did a great job on that you had to work that entire game you know all the way down to the end we're having a good time this week just know we were enjoying the hell out of this particular game and although many would say this game was shite as a Colts fan I'd like to let you know it was fantastic watching that man do his thing all right let's go to the number four headline here now listen I like that there's a new holiday anytime we can create something to celebrate something I'm with it okay so people that push against some of these things that happen oh it's too gimmicky it's too whatever like the super duper cup that the NBA put in for sure in the middle of the thing the commissioner cup or whatever the hell it is uh no the uh NBA cup yeah sorry the NBA cup they put it in the middle of the season everybody's like this is a gimmick it's like who cares we're celebrating we're getting our trophies i think they shouldn't be hanging the banners next to the other banners but we should still enjoy it so a national tight ends day was created by these tight end university boys who are trying to absolutely build a brand of what their position is which are dogs across the board you got to be tough enough to block you got to be athletic enough to be able to get open and catch the ball and oh yeah normally gonna have to be the mentality center for your entire team this tight end position is insane especially with the amount of talent that there is and there's a national tight ends day that should be celebrated and it feels like defensive coordinators should understand the day is existing as well i know the nfl puts out tweets and puts out shirts and shit like that i think defensive coordinators need to have somebody on the on the horn saying hey what's going on this weekend oh it's national tight ends day do you think offense coordinators are going to target tight ends a little bit more because of that defense coordinators saying no everybody else around going yeah tight ends want off yesterday and it feels like every year on national tight ends day tight ends go crazy tucker craft was the main event he won absolutely absurd what is the tucker craft story he grew up on a native american reservation yeah correct in south dakota uh grew up on the reservation and actually was uh named an honorary member of the tribe uh for you know because obviously lived on it through high school and everything but yeah he's an absolute dog yes he is he did a kip up last night on that sod that was unbelievable runs people over he's like ultimate warrior.
18:50Pat McAfee:And it seems like when he gets the ropes and gets the ball it's just like this as well. I couldn't even fathom they were saying nine on nine football or something like that. Imagine him playing basketball. Imagine him anything. Now granted there's probably that was filthy. The amount of explosivity that requires there. He did not push off his hands either. Yes he did. They were just there. You see that other angle he didn't push. He didn't put Oh it's just a balance yourself. Yeah he didn't push it. Okay because humans like me even on a springy floor, I need to use hands to shoot myself up. Sure.
19:23Pat McAfee:Not athletic enough. You're saying he just wanted to see where the ground was. He was maybe holding the ground down, actually. Yeah, could have been. So that he could propel himself. I didn't know humans did it without their hands.
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19:32Darius Butler:Oh, what's that? I didn't know humans did that without their hands.
19:34Pat McAfee:Drew McIntyre actually just, from back, no hands, just kicks himself all the way. That's the Scottish psychopath. He's actually quite calculated cerebral. But whatever it takes, that's an insane thing. But all these tight ends go absolutely crazy. I mean, you go through Goddard had two touchdowns. They got George Kittle, Tongs, Hunter Henry, Njoku, Harold Fannin Jr., Mason Taylor, Gunner Helm, Charlie Carter. And then let's not even forget, Tyler Warren exists. Didn't score a touchdown on National Tight Ends Day. Kind of screwed Gumpy over on a touchdown parlay. Gumpy was refusing to have a good time because Tyler Warren didn't get any end zone early.
20:10Pat McAfee:I said, you're a part of the problem, Gumpy. Not a part of the solution here. should have cashed out whenever it was a$25 bet for$900. You decide to continue to run. That's on you. That is not on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's an absolute dog, as are all of these tight ends. Brees Hall throws an incredible touchdown here as we're mossing folks with Mason Taylor. But D-Butts, the position's difficult. I know Nickel, obviously, the third corner in, which is now a part of basically every defense's starting pack, normally have to square off against tight ends. When did the tight end position transition into these monsters that they are in today's game start to happen?
20:45Pat McAfee:And what did defenses try to do to combat it? I mean, Antonio Gates kind of revolutionized it, I would say, in our age group. You know, Willenslow before that as a Charger tight end. But, yeah, Gronk was kind of like the mode. He was the hybrid, which kind of kiddo is. Great blocker and then also great receiver. Then Travis Kelsey became like, hey, almost like a bonus wide receiver. But, yeah, they're a matchup problem. They're just so big. They're so athletic. And because of their range, their catch range, their radius, is they're always open. Even when a DB or a linebacker is on them, they can just box you out and go up there and get a rebound.
21:17They are just phenomenal talents. And not to mention, on Thursday night, Rondé Gaston Jr., he balled out for the Chargers as well, which another Dolphin legend son that we could have drafted just like Mason Taylor. But that's neither here nor there.
21:31Pat McAfee:Hunter Henry is like now the pillar of the Patriots. Is he the longest tenured New England Patriot up there, it feels like? That's a good question, probably. But, I mean, even on that list of rookies, Like Mason Taylor, Deebo just mentioned, he won the game for the Jets. Breeze Hall threw the touchdown. Mason Taylor stepped up in the biggest moment. And then if there is one bright spot of that shite Tennessee Titans team, it's Gunnar Helm. Gunnar Helm has been really good for them too. And Cam Ward. Yeah, and Cam Ward. And then also Harold Fannin Jr. for the Browns. He was the only guy making plays for Cleveland yesterday.
22:04It's impressive, these young Titans coming in.
22:06Pat McAfee:I love the position as a whole. just because those guys, what, back in the day would probably be moved to either defensive end or maybe offensive line. Or maybe, hey, go play some hoops. Hey, you're an incredible athlete. You're seemingly not big enough, but too big. Maybe go play some hoops. Now this position is like, hey, if you are the freakiest athlete, we got the position for you. And that's seemingly what it's become. Match-up problems. Congrats to the tight ends. Happy National Tight End Day. Austin Muerte National Tight End Day National Tight End Day Alright let's go to the number 3 headline coming out of our football weekend High School Miracles Now high school football obviously is something that we all love We all grew up being a fan of Obviously it's folklore, it's fairy tale Well there's two high school situations that happen on Friday night that need to be seen Let's start here in Indiana About an hour and ten minutes northeast of where we sit here 2A football, Eastbrook versus Alexandria.
23:06Pat McAfee:Eastbrook undefeated on the season. Alexandria needs the win to move on in the playoffs. Eastbrook already has it cemented. We are now with 11 seconds left in the game. Alexandria has the ball. Fourth down. Gotta run an 11 second play. What do they end up running? Huh? Huh? Run back, run back, can still run away, throws it out. Boom! Four seconds left. Okay, so now there's four seconds left for Eastbrook, the undefeated powerhouse of 2A. Bodie Howe comes in. Number 15, quarterback for Eastbrook. Go ahead and play it. What are we going to run? Well, obviously, we're going to run hook and ladder in the annexation of Puerto Rico.
23:45Pat McAfee:That might be a forward lateral there. Refton caught, though. Stripes down here, didn't see it. Bodie Howe gets the ball back. He's at his own 15. He's at his own 11. He's getting the edge. Bodie Howe, quarterback, Eastbrook. Six foot one, 205 pounds senior on Eastbrook. Oh. Oh. Ah! Rumbling! Rumbling! Jumping! Oh, no. Scoring! Wow! Let's go. Hold the phone. What do you mean? Hold the phone. There's a flag on the plate. Oh, no. It's got to be the forward lateral, right? Back there at the beginning? It has to be. No, it was forward lateral. It was way back there. Yeah, well, turns out it's not forward lateral.
24:24Pat McAfee:It was actually a block in the back on the offensive team. Oh. Okay? So you go ahead and pick that flag up. Congratulations. No play. We're over. Nope. As there was a lineup for handshakes, because each of these teams thought it was over after a block in the back was called on Eastbrook, the refs say, get back on the sidelines. There's one more untimed down. How does that work? Ten yards from the spot of the foul. Bodie Howe gets an opportunity. Bodie Howe's not asking. Hey, this ain't Bodie's fault. No. Bodie and the Eastbrook boys, this ain't our fault. Hey, listen, make every rest of the play.
24:56Pat McAfee:That's what we're going to do. Bodie Howe going to take advantage of it? Wing T? Oh, yeah, he is. Wing T. Three wide receivers. Whoa! Give me that! So now they score a touchdown. Okay, so on time down, after their own block in the back, after a forward lateral potential hook and ladder, annexation of Puerto Rico, it's not their fault. Hey, not your blinders. Exactly. It's not Bodehouse's fault at all. Now they need to pick up the two-point conversion. 29-27. You think Bodehouse's not going to pick it up? Yeah, right. Roll right. Out of pocket. Jump. Back. Fade away. Give me that. Tie ball game.
25:32Pat McAfee:Let's go to overtime. Well, Alexandria scores a touchdown on their first series. Eastbrook has to answer. You think Bodie Howe is going to answer? Uh, yeah. I'm keeping it. Touchdown. What do they do? They're going to tie it up? They're going to tie it up or they're going to go for two? Go for two. Oh, no. Bodie Howe. Pitch man's open. No way. I'll take it. They win. Wow. Eastbrook remains undefeated. Alexandria. Ah. Wow. Alexandria, like I say, hard fought game. That's incredible work. way to show resiliency and score in overtime. On that note, Bodie Howell, this guy's unstoppable. Yes, he is.
26:06Pat McAfee:This guy's unstoppable. What a name. Yeah, it is a great name. What a name. I mean, what a game. That's a tough one, though. Are you familiar with the rules here in the state? So, I don't – in my eyes, in my head, the only time you ever extend a game untimed down is when there's a defensive penalty. Offensive penalties, I never thought there was an extension of the time. You know, because offense wants another play. So if they make a mistake, they're getting rewarded almost by making a mistake. So I always thought the defensive penalty was leading to the untimed out. Is that how you view it? I thought so.
26:39Maybe that's just us covering and playing pro sports. I feel like it was that way in college. But it probably changes state by state with these rules. But this was absolutely wild.
26:49Pat McAfee:Tone Diggs just sent a rule, and I think we can pull it up right now. But the teams thought it was over too. Yeah. Teams, the full video has them. Yeah, the announcer. Now granted, we had the Alexandria announcer. Sure. He was not as pumped up as the Eastbrook announcer. Eastbrook's way better. Is on the other side. Oh my God, a miracle! Okay, so Article 3, a period shall be extended by an untimed down if one of the following occurred. There was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted except for those fouls listed in 3-3-4. There was a double foul. There was an inadvertent whistle. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted.
27:18Pat McAfee:Unless the touchdown is scored during the last down on the fourth period and the point would not affect the outcome of the game or a playoff qualifying. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown is scored during the last down of the fourth period and the points would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff. What's that mean? Somebody's going to have to explain that to us. We're all very surprised by it. And congrats to them getting a huge win in Eastbrook and start Alexandria and then in Plumborough. Okay.
27:45Darius Butler:Pennsylvania?
27:45Pat McAfee:The Plumb Mustangs. Wow. We're playing the Penn Hills. I know that name. That's where... Is it still? Is it still? I don't know. I don't want to say their mascot name. Is it still? Aaron Donald's home. A lot of good football. A lot of good football in Penn Hills. Plum Penn Hills rivalry. A lot of similar humans. A lot of similar humans. A little bit different. Very similar style. They border.
28:17Darius Butler:They border. Very close to each other.
28:19Pat McAfee:Okay, so this is a rivalry.
28:20Darius Butler:Nick basically lived in Penn Hills.
28:21Pat McAfee:This is a rivalry. Yes, exactly. This is a rivalry. Penn Hills has always been better than Paul. Penn Hills has always been at football. At football. Every other thing, we got him. Every other thing, we got him. Football, though, they've certainly had us. Together playoffs, Plum needs a win at home. How you doing? Well, Austin Kolonkowski. Kolonkowski. Austin Kolonkowski, Section 1 Soccer Player of the Year. Has his field goal blocked. The wherewithal. He picks it up. Is it going to get tackled? I don't think so. Strong soccer player, kicker, survives 15 yards. Wow. After contact, scores a touchdown because the boys rally.
29:06Pat McAfee:Plum's going to the playoffs. And Austin Kolinkowski, the player of the year in Section 1, Class 4A, is obviously an absolute dog. I believe the Plum soccer team is currently on a playoff run. And now because of that, the Plum football team is also on a playoff run. They're going to go to USC. That's going to be taught that. Is that a good squad, too? They're pretty good. Yeah, they're a pretty good team. You know, Sean Lee, we're not worried about nothing. Penn State? We're not worried about nothing. We're going to give Austin Kolonkowski the ball. We should think about maybe giving Austin Kolonkowski the ball.
29:37Pat McAfee:And Johnny Nonnenberg spinning it. The boys are ready for the moment. Congrats to the plump getting a miraculous win here. Blocked kick. Touch push. Kicker picks it up. Go ahead and let me grab this. Penn Hills guy has him immediately. That's illegal. What's illegal? That's illegal right there. Too strong. Being too strong. Say rugby. We're not going to get into that. Shout out to high school football showing up. And number two headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes is we're running it back, back, back, back, back, back, back to the 80s. Nice. Hell yeah. Running backs are leading the top teams in the league.
30:09Pat McAfee:Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts. Absolutely insane. James Cook, obviously absurd with the Bills. And guess who's back? Back, back, back, back, back again. Saquon Barkley had his day yesterday. A.J. Brown not playing because of a hamstring injury. And against the New York Giants, obviously massive rivalry in the beautiful Kelly Green uniforms, which the Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated in. Saquon Barkley found his groove. Saquon got all the way back to who he was last year whenever he led them to a Super Bowl. And the offensive line, same damn thing. Jalen Hurts obviously under center a bit more is the stats that you're going to hear from Dan Orlovsky in the second hour because he's been calling for this for a while.
30:46Pat McAfee:But it feels like the Eagles might have got their groove back, D. Bush. Yeah, sometimes just take that one big player, that one big game, and definitely Saquon had it. These Kelly Green jerseys are unbelievable. So clean. I believe they moved to 5-0 now while wearing these. Not only did he have these jerseys on, but he had those sweet LeBron cleats on that he was gracing the Madden cover with. A lot of people were saying, hey, this is a Madden curse coming in for 2-6, but hopefully he lifted that curse off of him with this game. Yeah, it was some more under the center, some extra alignment stuff.
31:14So love to see it. Interesting to see how they handled the A.J. Brown situation going forward.
31:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, a lot of conversation around that, obviously. Saquon Barkley rush yards under center snaps. This is from Hembo. Weeks one through seven, 102 yards. Week eight alone, 116 yards. So, you know, Petulo's trying to get his feet up already. Don't have a lot going on. They started figuring it out. And this is an Eagles team. I think we all understand with the amount of talent that they have, that if they do figure it out, right back in Super Bowl conversations, even though everybody's trying to bury them all the time. And the number one headline coming out of the weekend, as we all knew, talking about Super Bowl.
31:47Pat McAfee:Colts going in. Duh. Hell yeah. The Cubs go in Super Bowl. This is just, I think seven out of the eight weeks we've done this first 15, this has been the number one headline. Strictly because I've been watching every single snap, so it's pretty biased program. My name's in it. I apologize. These dudes are unbelievable. Yes. They don't really have a flaw right now. Honestly, we lose to the Rams. That's our only loss. And we all understand what happened in that game. We certainly should have won that. Los Angeles Rams took advantage of the situation and definitely won. That guy right there, though, seemingly untackleable.
32:13Pat McAfee:Yeah. Okay, he's on pace to break every record there is. Four games with three-plus touchdowns. Okay. That's just absolutely insanity. He has more touchdowns than some teams as a whole. And that means the offensive line's back to doing what they're doing. And we all saw a screenshot of one of the holes that he had to hit yesterday. I mean, there's an actual freight train that is possible to go through. The offensive line have taken a lot of pride in what they're doing this year. Yeah, I mean, that is – now, granted, I'm not saying that Jonathan Taylor isn't unbelievable and Jonathan Taylor finds holes that might appear to be this big.
32:44Pat McAfee:But if you give Jonathan Taylor this hole right here, I mean, yeah, we're going to be okay. And that's what Saquon was last year with Philadelphia. It feels like that's what our offense is matching up. And Danny Dimes is putting us in the right situation every time. I mean, this guy is a super genius. And just every throw, he's seemingly going to the right place. He very rarely misses. And then Michael Pittman Jr. has one of the nicest touchdown catches of all time. I'm down here in the corner, can't see it all. I see that guy draped over top of him. I just flag, thank you. We're about to have first down on the one this amazing.
33:13Pat McAfee:And then you hear everybody go crazy. And I turn my back. No way this dude got this. They showed six highlights of this thing in the stadium immediately. Great work by the stadium operators. Every angle looked better. Like, the first angle was insane. Second angle, he's like, that is clearly a one-handed catch that he goes through a guy. Third angle, it's like what his other hand was doing in there. It's like, this guy is an absolute dog. Has been willing to sacrifice his whole body on the field. Last year when the Colts were what they were, which I think everybody in that locker room now would come to grips with maybe they weren't operating like a professional football team in all aspects, especially with what they've been able to do this year it's unbelievable pitman in the middle of that run full dolphin dive in the middle of his body gets bent backwards folded in half gets off goes back out there does it again this guy will lay his body on the line first alec pierce as well it's just like tyler warren is outrageous and then on defensive side we got to tighten some things up of course felt like the titans had some opportunities and uh we didn't know what they were doing i mean And there was a couple plays where maybe they got Lou, where we had a bad call, and boy, they had a good play call on their side.
34:21Pat McAfee:And Cam Ward was able to make some big-time plays. But, like, the Colts are very comfortable with where they're at right now. And I think they're all talking the same way. They know that they got a lot of shit still to prove. And the MVP chants were very real for Jonathan Taylor yesterday, D-Butt. Yeah, he's unbelievable. The combination of speed, power, vision. Like, once he gets to that second or third level, just very like Saquon was last year, it can go for a home run at any given time. And obviously it starts with the offensive line, creating those gaps, and then him finding them and then exploiting what happens on the back end.
34:52And then a lot of people comparing this season to Saquon's. We haven't had a non-QB MVP since 2012, and it was Adrian Peterson. But his touchdown total, already up to 14. I think Saquon had 15, a total of all last year. You know, Jalen Hurts stole a bunch of them with the quarterback sneaks. But he is phenomenal, 28, unbelievable, with a long list of great running backs that have played for the organization. He's kind of the next one up. And then you talked about Daniel Jones. Just complete control of the offense. You saw plenty of time with like less than 12 or 10 seconds on the clock, and he's making some last-minute audible.
35:26And the guys around him, it's like, just take your turn. It's very much like the Green Bay Packers. It's not necessarily that one guy who's going to come in and get 15 targets every Sunday, but Pittman, Pierce, Downs when it's his turn, Warren whenever it's his turn. These guys just shows up, and Daniel Jones has been doing a great job putting the ball on him, just controlling the game on every aspect. Man, I'm absolutely loving what I'm seeing from this Indianapolis Colts team. And one of the things that we were so excited about with Anthony Richardson was the fact that he was mobile. If you go back to that photo of the wide open, big gaping hole that JT ran through, the threat of Danny Dimes being mobile is one thing.
36:02Even if you look on the right side, they're like, that guy is moving right because they think, hey, maybe Dimes has this on a boot. Maybe he's running the ball. and that is opening up things even more for JT. So just Danny Dimes being out there is how JT is.
36:14Pat McAfee:Shane Steichen, obviously with Philadelphia at the beginning of this whole thing, saw the benefits of Jalen, what Jalen had, which I think is why Anthony Richardson was so enticing for the Indianapolis Colts. It's like, hey, look what Shane was able to do with Jalen. Anthony Richardson, we should be able to do that. Not giving up on Anthony Richardson, but it certainly didn't click with Shane Steichen's offense as quick and obviously with the injuries didn't really have that much of an opportunity. But Danny Dimes is a more than suitable runner. And I think that was where a lot of people were like, are we going Anthony Richardson or Danny Dimes?
36:43Pat McAfee:Who's going to be the starter for this team? And they're like, well, the future of the NFL, you've got to be able to run. It's like, hey, I understand he looks like he's like maybe a farmer or a banker, depending upon how he's dressed on the day. And he doesn't give much reaction. Doesn't give much reaction. They put a camera on him. So they did an in-stadium entertainment. You know, the helmet shuffle. I think it's the best one. I think the helmet shuffle is the best one. There's an overrated, underrated one. Then there's like a celebrity lookalike one where they go around the entire place. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
37:10Pat McAfee:Last one, Indiana Jones pops up. And everybody starts getting a sense of what's happening. Offense is on the field. This is in the middle of the game. Second quarter, maybe. And then they slide it over, and there's just this clip. Boom. Close up on Daniel Jones. Place goes absolutely apeshit for him, right? He looks up for like half a second, sees himself. Oh, no. Head back down. Starts like jogging in place. Starts like working back. Place is going absolutely apeshit for him. And he's just like completely locked in. doesn't even acknowledge it. You can see there's a little blushing maybe, like a little bit of this is not like the most comfortable, but right back into the huddle, and I think the next play we're off and running.
37:43Pat McAfee:It's like he's just locked in. I think he's so calloused from what happened to him. He got his ass beat in New York, both physically and also through the media. This guy stinks. What a bust. Let alone the hard knock shit. You get rid of Saquon, guy goes and has an MVP year. Why? Because we bet on this guy. It's just like he has been hardened by it all, and we are reaping the benefits of it, and his next contract they're talking about is about to be big. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Michigan man who can certainly help us fill in the gaps on anything that we missed. We appreciate the hell out of him.
38:13Pat McAfee:And overreaction Monday, first 15 regular. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Hey, Chef D. Schefter, how you doing, buddy? Oh, that's a beautiful jacket, Pat. Very stylish. Very stylish. Muchos gracias. This is from NFL Mexico, obviously. it feels delightful. It's hot as hell in here. I am sweating, but we will certainly represent and continue to do so. What do we need to know coming out of yesterday? Obviously, the Scadaboo injury was very scary. Complete dislocation that looked nasty. Obviously, anytime that takes place, people don't love it. Is there any other stories that maybe we didn't hit there over the top five headlines that you have out of a blowout Sunday for the NFL?
38:55As you guys get ready to play in your Super Bowl parade, there's a few things I did want to point out there going on with Indianapolis. Daniel Jones has played six games in which he hasn't turned over the football at all. At all. And Jonathan Taylor is on pace right now for 28 touchdowns this season. Which is pretty good. 28 touchdowns. You get 28 touchdowns, you generally should win an MVP. LaDainian Tomlinson, I think, has the record more than that. But he has to be considered an MVP candidate. The issue is, as D-Bub pointed out, the last 12 MVPs have all been quarterbacks. It's turned into, generally speaking, a quarterback award.
39:36And I would imagine, before the season is through, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, some other quarterbacks will have something to say about whether or not Jonathan Taylor does win the MVP. But, today, on October 27th, Jonathan Taylor is the MVP. Today, absolutely. The guy's been incredible. He has been speed, power, production, everything you'd want but again let's see if one of these quarterbacks overtakes him for what has become the most valuable quarterback not the most valuable player award in the last 12 years his
40:07Pat McAfee:celebration too there was a toddler race uh as one of the breaks yeah i think like three-year-old maybe three or four-year-olds racing against each other and the little boy that won the race he did the jonathan taylor filthy he did the jonathan taylor as a celebration i thought to myself it's He has a clean celebration. Also doable. The celebration is doable. We've all seen people try to attempt the gritty. Okay, Gesicki and others. And there are certainly people that are great at the gritty. This one looks great. Seemingly can do it as well. Everything about him right now is throwing 110. And I think he's capable of doing it all year.
40:44Pat McAfee:Tough guy. Had a couple injuries, but before that literally never missed a game. He's all the way back to being exactly who we thought he was. Now, speaking of being all the way back, there's a Thursday night game. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, do you have more information on the Ravens' whole ordeal with basically retroactively changing Lamar's practice status on Friday? Obviously, a lot of people were up in arms about that. Are the Ravens going to face some serious repercussions here for how this went down, or what more do you know about this situation? The league is going to conduct interviews this week.
41:15The Ravens continued to insist that it was an honest mistake in their words and there was an accident, and they don't believe that they did anything wrong here. Now, the league will obviously talk to enough people and make a determination about whether or not a fine is warranted in this particular case. I don't think if the league finds wrongdoing that they're going to go more than a fine, but we'll see how this works out. This comes, obviously, at a time in the sports world where there is a lot of attention on injury reports now. And I would imagine that you're going to see more and more attention paid to this, that the league is going to be very sensitive to teams reporting accurate, honest injury information as we go along.
41:56They don't want anything like what's happened here in sports the last week. And so I think the penalties could be tied to that. My guess is there'll be a fine. The league will do the interviews this week, and they'll make a determination about whether or not there is a basis for a fine or some sort of discipline.
42:13Pat McAfee:Okay, and what are your takeaways from the teams that look like absolute shite yesterday? Yesterday, there was a stat that Hembo and ESPN Research gave us. That was the least amount of one-score games since 1970 or something from an NFL Sunday. I mean, it's like it was a historically, legitimately, historically terrible day of football. Now, if you're on a winning team, you feel good. Bad teams obviously feel absolutely terrible. What is your thoughts on how yesterday went? What are some teams that maybe shouldn't be as maybe moody with their teams as they probably are after a blowout or a shellacking, if you will?
42:49Well, again, it's interesting because a week ago, everybody's calling for Mike McDaniel to be fired. And a week later, they go into Atlanta and beat the Falcons, which who would have imagined that would have happened, even with Kirk Cousins starting at quarterback. The Cincinnati Bengals have an opportunity to move within a half game of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC North and to make a run in that division. They have a 15-point lead in the third quarter, a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter against a Jets team that had yet to win a game against a quarterback that the owner of that team criticized last week.
43:25And by the way, let me say this. Justin Fields handled the events of last week like a polished professional. He should be applauded for the way that he acted, the way that he reacted to what Woody Johnson said about him. He went out yesterday and played a great game. He's thrown 167 passes this year and has not thrown an interception. Only quarterback not to do that. He's got the lowest interception rate in the league. I know he's only thrown 167 times, but that's 167 passes. And it comes in a week again where he got thrown under the bus by his own owner. where the owner acted like some young, inexperienced player who was not used to dealing with the media.
44:09He did. And the player acted like a polished, successful, seasoned, experienced owner. Successful. And then the player goes out and leads this team to its first win of the season. It was very impressive to see. And I think Justin Fields deserves a lot of credit. And then, you know, you flip it around like the Bengals. is that they lose Joe Burrow in that game earlier in the year, and they'll always remember that. But they're going to remember that loss yesterday because they had a chance to close the gap in the AFC North and let that get away.
44:41Pat McAfee:A YouTube TV commercial running right now is hilarious, especially with everything that happened over the weekend. But Sunday Ticket is absolutely awesome. Every game, every Sunday, all in one place. Shout out to YouTube TV and Sunday Ticket. It is certainly fantastic. When the quad boxes all have blowouts, all that blow off. It's like, wait, I got to change my multi. Let me change my multi here. Nope. Put six more in that bad boy. We got bad things all over the place. But you're right. The Bengals having a situation there, which leads to, because Trey Hendrickson is always going to be talked about.
45:14Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Tone.
45:15Darius Butler:We are basically one week away from the NFL trade deadline. It kind of feels like things have cooled off since that one week where we had a ton. Besides just asking you about random people, Do you have any teams or names specifically that you think we should be watching? Well, I think that there'll be a wide receiver move or two made before the deadline. Everybody's been calling the Saints, checking in there. Rashid Shahid, Chris Olave, they're not going to get rid of Chris Olave. They want him. Brandon Cooks, I think at least one of those wide receivers gets traded here in the next eight days.
45:52The team's calling the Miami Dolphins about Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips. Won't be a surprise if at least one of those players gets traded here in the next eight days. Dolphins are on a short week this week, so it might be tough to make a move this week, but then would be ideal timing after a Thursday night game to see if they can make a move after that. So this could be the last game for a Dolphin or two on Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens.
46:16Pat McAfee:Buying, selling, there's a team. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Shefty, what about teams like the Patriots who maybe came into the year, you know, not expecting much but have, you know, come alive pretty quick. And then teams also like the Vikings, who have kind of had a disappointing start, and they have a couple players that are young and need to be paid, and they might not have enough to go around for everybody. What about those types of situations? Well, the Patriots are very interesting to me because, to me, they're a little bit like the commanders were last year. There were not a lot of people expecting Washington to be in the spot that it was.
46:47And because they had won and because they had been so successful, they went out and then traded for Marshawn Lattimore at the deadline. And I can see the Patriots making a move here, whether it's for a defensive back, whether it's for another running back, for a little bit of running back depth, whether it's for another wide receiver, although those wide receivers are playing really well right now. I can see New England saying, hey, we're in this great spot right now. We got a chance to beat Buffalo for the division. We got a chance to host a home playoff game. A lot of excitement. Drake May is lighting it up right now.
47:19Now, by the way, he actually also is in the MVP conversation right now with the way that he's played so far. And, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if New England made a move here before the deadline.
47:31Pat McAfee:That would be fun to see for Connor and all the mass holes who obviously know what great ball looks like. And Connor, since day one of watching Drake May, has said, this guy's a guy, this guy's a guy. Even whenever all hell was seemingly breaking loose around him and the sky was on fire and everything like that, Drake has always been good, if you ask the Patriots fans. Now with Vrabes and McDaniels, it's like he's getting everything that he can possibly do out of them, and also they've got a team around them, and they're making smart decisions. Are the Patriots all the way back? And then they make a big-time trade.
48:04Pat McAfee:Do you guys still have money? I think we have the second most money right now or the first. I forget. Oh, they can make a big. Oh, yeah. They can make a big. Any big fish out there? Hey, you know what? We used to get regular playoff matchups between the Patriots and Colts. Big one. Could you see another one this year? Patriots and Colts again. That would be pretty cool, huh? I was in a couple of those when I didn't know what I was doing. It would have been cool to be good at my job when those moments were happening. Those ones I was just hanging on for dear life out there. Don't hit a shank here.
48:36Pat McAfee:Everybody else is really good. You are not that great. Let's not be the reason. I was in the fourth and two game as a rookie. I felt honestly like legit the one time in my career where I felt like I was just like an extra in the movie. Like I had no control. I'm lined up across like, all right, I got Reggie Wayne and Peyton's looking at me fucking making checks. I'm like, I don't know. You're one of the only ones that's been on both sides, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's been a few of us. If it means anything, I was standing on the sideline there like this thinking I was in a movie. Yeah, this is stupid.
49:09Pat McAfee:I got no control over anything that's about to happen. But boy, we're about to have a good time tonight. Oh, yeah. Melvin Bullitt makes a big-time play. Huge. Peyton goes crazy. The Colts win. What a time to be alive. I had no idea what I was doing. It was a good time. It was great. Yeah, Colts Patriots seemingly all the way back. Speaking of back, let's talk a little quarterbacks. Go ahead, D-Butch. Yeah, Shefty, give us a little lay of the land with the quarterback injuries that are out there. I know Bryce Young, Jaden Daniels obviously missing tonight again, Michael Penney's Jr. Who else we got?
49:37We saw Joe Burrow with no boots. Purdy. Any updates? Purdy. Purdy, we got any updates with the quarterback landscape running the field. Well, I think the guys that I feel pretty confident will be back this week. Lamar Jackson Thursday night in Miami. I think we see him back this week. J.J. McCarthy, I think we see him back this week against the Detroit Lions. I think we see Kyler Murray on Monday night. And then you raised a few of the other guys, right? Bryce Young, Carolina ankle injury could be back. We'll see. Brock Purdy could be back. We'll see. Kyle Shannon is going to talk to the media later today.
50:08There always seems to be some sort of injury news to the 49ers that you don't expect in the afternoon on a Monday after a game. We'll see what happens today with that. But Brock Purdy could be back for them. There was another quarterback you mentioned, aside from those three, and Bryce Young and Brock Purdy. Daniels. Bill Burrow. Jaden. Jaden Daniels. They play Sunday night against the Seattle Seahawks. And I just think a guy that's had a knee injury and a hamstring injury and some injury issues, But hamstrings, you've got to be really careful with them. Look at how careful Lamar has been. I won't be surprised if we don't see Jaden again on Sunday night.
50:48Pat McAfee:The hamstring is like once it happens, right? Doesn't that kind of become a thing people get scared about? You've got to give it time to heal. And, you know, obviously players and coaches aren't trying to do that in the middle of the season. But in a situation like the Ravens, like you want your star quarterback back, that was kind of the conversation outside of that building too, where the Ravens trying to almost force Lamar to get in there. So it's interesting. Oh, that's why they put full participation. Ah, to kind of put a little public pressure on it. But that's just, you know. Yeah, there's conspiracies for everything, obviously, and the NFL is going to get into it.
51:15Pat McAfee:And I assume they will try to set a precedent on misrepresenting somebody's health status, especially in this gambling world that we're in, which is really stunning. Did you hear about the country of Turkey? Oh, boy. Ah, there's a lot of you going to do it. Okay, we're too close to Thanksgiving to be talking about Turkey already. But whenever you're talking about the country of Turkey, there's some crazy scandal. Let's talk about tonight. We talked about the commanders. Ten and a half point dogs now at the Kansas City Chiefs. Any injury news that we need to think about before we make our picks this evening, Shefty, or any other storylines we should be thinking about?
51:45Well, obviously, Terry McLaurin, Debo Samuel, both back for Washington. Marcus Mariota steps in and starts for Jaden Daniels. And again, I think we're used to seeing backup quarterbacks do well, and maybe Marcus won't tonight, but he's won there in the playoffs. He beat Alex Smith in a playoff game. And I can tell you that I think the organization is confident in Mariota. They feel like he is more than capable of stepping in and playing a good game. We'll see if he can do that tonight. On the other side of the football, obviously Rasheed Rice back for another week. Kareem Hunt is off the injury report.
52:17They wanted to get Brashard Smith there, rookie running back, more involved. We'll see if that happens tonight. And they're still missing the left tackle, Josh Simmons, but there's a feeling that he could be back here now in Kansas City in a couple of weeks, which is encouraging, dealing with some personal issues there. but it sounds like he will be back here in fairly short order, which is great news.
52:38Pat McAfee:Pretty cool that it's just expected Taylor's going to be there and it's not breaking news. Good for them. Hey, good for them. Good spot. That's awesome. All right, Shefty, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Good luck tonight from your office. Enjoy the game tonight, guys. Thank you for having me. What do you think? You think the shite weekend continues tonight or no? I hope not. I hope we get a good game. I hope we get a good game. I think we have a chance. Yeah, me too. I think it may be a little bit closer to the Beulah. But Kansas City's a juggernaut right now. They're better than they ever been.
53:08Pat McAfee:But on that note, as soon as you said you think that it's going to be a good game, Cox's table just gave a full. I hope it is. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Adam Schefter. We all hope it is. Amen. Amen. Amen. You know, I think I'm getting older. These games are getting later, it feels like.
53:25Darius Butler:Oh, that's for sure.
53:26Pat McAfee:I'm watching these games. Wow, today's been a pretty shitty day of football. This one's going to get real good tonight, though. Then I'm watching Boz just murder Boz. I'm like, yeah, Boz will. Chris Boz will keep me awake tonight. Yes, he will. He's hitting dingers every single time. He's like the damn Dodgers. Now, granted, hold on. World Series game tonight, right? Yes. Game three tonight. Game three tonight. We got Dodgers came back one game two. Correct. Blue Jays won game one. Yep. They're indecisive. Correct. They beat the hell out of Dodgers. 11-4. Yeah, had the first pinch hit grand slam in the history of the World Series.
54:01Okay, so I've been watching these games.
54:03Pat McAfee:It's been good. You know the reason why I'm watching, and people are going to hate me for this, but I grew up in Pittsburgh, so I'll get off my ass. I used to like the Yankees because the Yankees spent more money on everybody. And I'm like, you know what? If you're allowed to kind of just spend more on everybody, I like that the Yankees are doing that. Now what I'm realizing is with all the star power that the Dodgers have, I like them because they spend more money on everybody. And I think I enjoy that. Now, a lot of people hate that, I think, in the baseball. but I am watching because I want to see the big money boys I want to see the big money boys kind of see if they can show up in a big moment and they did a lot of people saying this is not going back to Toronto they think this is Dodgers kind of opened it up it's going to be over now or I mean we'll see if you're a Dodgers fan that's kind of the whole idea is hey this team's so deep that just like over a seven game series it's impossible to sustain what the Blue Jays did in game one but that's why the Blue Jays are such a tough out because they don't have any of these massive superstars outside of Vladdy maybe.
55:03But they just – that first game, we see what the Dodgers did here, and they had to win. Yamamoto, once again, threw a complete game. He's just been unbelievable, and he's one of those guys. That's why you pay$325 million. That's why you go get the best guys because they have an impact when it matters most. But the Blue Jays, they're tough to kill because they've got a bunch of these guys who maybe – I mean, it's obviously different in the majors, but casual fans don't respect them, don't know the guy's names, and that's all they do is single, single, single. And then some guy shows up massive and hits a homer when a couple guys are on base.
55:38And the Dodgers, the big thing with them the whole time has been, hey, if you can get to their bullpen, that's where they're susceptible. When Yamamoto throws a complete game, that completely eliminates them. Good aces, spend a lot of money. Exactly. Not a lot of depth.
55:50Darius Butler:And tonight we got Max Scherzer, who is just a perennial playoff. Mad Max. Mad Max. making his fourth start for the fourth different team in the World Series.
56:01Pat McAfee:41 years old starting in the World Series. Congrats to him. What a marvel that is. And they should not be played on a Monday. It's football season. Move this shit to tomorrow. Okay? I'm done with it. There's only two teams left, right?
56:14Darius Butler:Yes, correct. Move it to tomorrow. Well, if it's 23-0, so.
56:17Pat McAfee:Oh, wait. It's been a shite weekend. Hold on. Shout out to the World Series tonight. Shout out to the World Series tonight. I would say tonight would be a decent one if you want to put the two box up there because you can just have football on and then just kind of monitor in silence what's going on in the baseball. I've been watching the baseball, though. I would like to say thank you to the baseball. Thank you. What are you? It's been fun. Would like it to be tomorrow, though. Would be cool if it was tomorrow, but if tonight's a blowout, baseball got our backs. I appreciate that. Basketball's happening as well.
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57:37Pat McAfee:Football! It is absolutely magical. We're lucky to talk about it every single day. NFL Mexico gave me this jacket and I'll tell you it is certainly fantastic. I appreciate Raul and everybody down there. Football is a beautiful thing. Bringing together countries. Bringing together people. Bringing together teams of people that will beat the hell out of another team in week 8 of the NFL season. It has been a shite slate thus far and tonight the Washington Commanders led by Marcus Mariota will travel to the kingdom and take on the Kansas City Chiefs as 10.5 point dogs. Could this be yet another blowout for the NFL to have to put their PR machine on?
58:18Pat McAfee:I will appreciate the hell out of whatever stat comes out of the NFL on Tuesday or Wednesday. If this is a blowout, you never know what you're going to get with the NFL. This is the first time since blah, blah, blah. And that's real, by the way. I think it was an eye-opening experience for a lot of fan bases yesterday. But also maybe a little bit of optimism grabbed by some of these teams. that although you maybe thought you were okay, maybe just good, maybe yesterday you found out you're maybe great. Holy hell, you can pound another football team if you have to. There's a lot of hope that you can pull from yesterday, and there's a lot of misery that people are certainly grasping onto after getting blown out.
58:50Pat McAfee:The Toxic Table's here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys, AP Tone is here. Good night for Steelers last night. Everybody loved those uniforms. Oh.
59:04Darius Butler:Don't understand why they did those.
59:06Pat McAfee:Hey, we got Sunday Night Football. Aaron Rodgers playing the Packers. Let's dress like assholes. What happened, Donner? Did anybody see those things before they went on TV? I did.
59:16Darius Butler:I did. I tried to warn everybody last week. I said this is going to be horrendous.
59:20Pat McAfee:There's no way you could have described these things showing up to my eyes.
59:23Darius Butler:I said all the yellow. It's going to be horrendous. It's up there against the Chargers uniforms for the worst uniforms in the NFL this season. Yellow is just a horrendous color. But you know what? They looked incredible for a half, and the boys were buzzing.
59:35Pat McAfee:So you were going to spin that it was good uniform, actually, if they get to win last night. Because I started thinking that. When I first saw them come on TV and on my algorithm and everything as they were debuting on entrances, I was like, wow, those are absolute trash. I cannot believe you would put those in for the Sunday Night Football, Steelers, Packers, Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers game. Almost sabotage. Trying to sabotage the game putting these uniforms out there. I wasn't happy. Then as the game continued to roll on, you're like, okay, they are ass, but yeah, maybe if they win, it's not that big of a deal.
1:00:07Pat McAfee:And then as it starts unraveling, it's like, man, ass unis, tough night, big loss, and a reminiscent moment for Steelers fans saying, we can't win the Super Bowl, which is what you guys did last night.
1:00:19Darius Butler:Yeah, you just physically can't tackle in those uniforms. That's my big takeaway. If they were wearing the throwback, the black with the white block letters, that would have been probably a much better performance. or the black with the yellow, the color rush. But those ones, they were just behind the eight ball from the start.
1:00:37Pat McAfee:Well, it's hard to tackle a guy that grew up on. Yeah, the Cheyenne reservation there in South Dakota. It's a really long name. It's multiple names. I don't want to just spit those out there and get them wrong. I should have looked. I'm sorry. Can you tell me about Tucker Craft a little bit? He did grow up on a Native American reservation. Yeah, in South Dakota. I believe he got named like an honorary. Yeah, he's an honorary member of the tribe for acts of community service that he did within the reservation and with the people that lived there with him. And he's untackleable. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.
1:01:12Pat McAfee:Butler. Think about that. What a story the NFL has now out of a guy from Dakota out in the middle of a reservation. Another very important tidbit on Tucker Craft. He said after the game that The Program is one of his favorite movies. And any guy, any young player that loves The Program, he's good with me. So, yeah, he's automatically one of my favorite tight ends. He plays pissed off. Oh, was that a headbutt? The coach. Boom. Yeah, there we go. A little ladder there. First team defense. Love that. Yeah, that's who he referenced for the program conversation when he was asked, hey, did you headbutt somebody without a helmet on?
1:01:47Pat McAfee:Absolutely. You ever see the program? Just went right into it. And he didn't even blink there. That would just at least startle you a little bit. And he actually went for it a little bit harder, actually. And it's those types of blockheads that can really scare you. If there's no fear of any brain damage happening whenever you're slamming it off of a helmet that is made to protect and inflict other things, you got to think this guy is maybe unbreakable. Now, on that note, we see another large head like this on a daily basis. Yeah, we do. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and an owner of one of the densest craniums in the history of mankind.
1:02:29Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J., as a Green Bay Packer legend, all-time leading tackler there, when you see somebody, or should I say something like Tucker Craft, do what he does, what is your thoughts on this team and this huge win on Sunday night in Pittsburgh, A.J.? I mean, Tucker Craft is awesome. He's awesome before even his head-button dudes with no helmet on. But that little tidbit about the program, that really puts it over the top for me. I mean, I'm 41 years old. The fact that Tucker Craft even knows what the program is, let alone it's his favorite movie, tells you a lot of what you need to know about this guy.
1:03:08Obviously, freakishly athletic, I think, that people don't give him credit for.
1:03:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, and National Tight Ends Day, so I think he showed up like he had to represent. And they talk about no number ones. There's no number ones there for Green Bay. There never has been, really, right? I mean, that's kind of been the storyline. Now, Golden gets drafted in the first round, and obviously Watson's back. But they share the wealth out there. It feels like Jordan Love is just going wherever he needs to go for the best possible outcome. They talk about turnovers with Jordan Love and, you know, a little bit gunslinger. He certainly had a couple of those plays as well. There's a little Jordan Love experience that goes alongside Jordan Love playing football, but I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing.
1:03:42Pat McAfee:You think the Packers can go on a run after what you saw last night against this Pittsburgh Steelers team? Yeah, I definitely do. I mean, they just got to figure out and you got to make sure you're all healthy at the right time and you're playing well at the end. We know it's a long season, but I like that gunslinger mentality that Jordan Love has. I like that he's not scared to push the ball down the field. Like, he's definitely not dinking his dunking the way down to these touchdowns. So, it maybe helps him a little bit not having a bona fide number one that you feel like pressured to push the ball to because he truly has so many weapons out there.
1:04:10And, man, Tucker Craft really is separating himself, I think, as a tight end.
1:04:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, Tyler Warren, obviously a good conversation, but you talk about, like, Josh Allen. Josh Allen doesn't have any number ones. He just tries to make the best absolute play. He frees up the quarterback a lot. Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis, similar situation, kind of free up the quarterback a good bit. Now, when it comes to the Green Bay Packers to win a Super Bowl, do you guys run the ball, stop the run time? I mean, that is the one thing that they kind of need to get going is Josh Jacobs. He's got a lot of touchdowns, but they haven't had the same success on the ground this year that they did last year.
1:04:40Because early on, like you remember when Love was banged up and they were playing with Malik, you know, They ran the ball very effectively. And then, yeah, I think their defense has been very solid. They've been better stopping the run this year than any years in the last 10 that I can remember off the top of my head.
1:04:57Pat McAfee:Okay, who's great in the NFC, Conman? We got obviously the Eagles are back to being the Eagles. Bucs have a close one. Bucs obviously defense does what they got to do. Packers in that conversation, I believe. Yeah, I don't know if I put them in that conversation yet just because we don't even know if they're going to win their division. Like the Lions are, they were on the bye, so we're just kind of like, forget the Lions. Yeah, and the Bears. Whoa, whoa, we're not forget the Lions, but we are certainly out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, exactly. It's one of those things like when your team's on the bye, you do, you just naturally forget about them.
1:05:28Like even the Rams, you know. I put the Rams up there above the Packers just at this moment.
1:05:34Pat McAfee:Oh, the Seahawks. I'm not going that far, but Rams for sure. I think the Rams, as far as like complete teams, you just mentioned stopping the run and running the ball. The Rams can do all that, and they have Matt Stafford still. Hey, how about the Packers, though, up there? Hell yeah. Plus 700 Super Bowl odds, especially after having a big win last night with Brett Michaels on a mic. Yeah. They killed it, by the way. Agree. All reports I got, you guys got reports in the stadium, right? I got many reports from the stadium that absolute electric the whole time. Really? Where? Yeah. It might have been sitting in different spots because we got messages from different situations in the stadium.
1:06:12Pat McAfee:higher-ups that weren't able to hear everywhere Brett Michaels was saying, obviously, that's a little bit of a letdown. I can see the greatness. I can't hear the greatness.
1:06:19Darius Butler:Where's the stage here, though? Where's the stage? They normally do it behind the one end zone. Last time I was there when they did a concert, it was Wiz. It was behind the one end zone where the entrance is.
1:06:31Pat McAfee:The world is the stage for Brett Michaels, but in this particular night, I think they do have him on a little bit of a platform. I think that's a little bit of a tough look there as well, but nonetheless, Brett Michaels brings it. And we appreciate him bringing it. He was holding that terrible towel like this, too. His shoulder and trap game was very impressive.
1:06:49Darius Butler:That's all he does, all day, every day.
1:06:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're very proud of Brett Michaels making it to the big show. And Brett Michaels has been doing a lot of good things for a lot of people for a long time. And the fact that Ty said that he was the reason why the pitch breaks it across the ocean. I just said, I saw a lot of that out there. Listen, I love Brett Michaels. I didn't specifically say that. A lot of people were saying, wow, the game really turned on its head after Brett Michaels performed at halftime. Every rose has its song. It's got some hits. Just like every night has its song. Hopefully he didn't play it. This would be a tough one to play for a stadium full of football fans.
1:07:30Pat McAfee:Every cowboy sings a sad, sad song. Every rose has thorns.
1:07:45Darius Butler:Did you see the pool report for the referee after the game? Everyone saw where Aaron drew Parsons offside, I believe. I can't remember. Devontae Wyatt. The referee said he was still so memorized from the concert at halftime. That's why they missed the offsides call.
1:08:02Pat McAfee:He was hypnotized by Brent Michael as well. Well, every rose has its thorn, and the rose is obviously Brett Michael's performance. The thorn is that you can get hypnotized in the greatness out there, and the Pittsburgh Steelers might have done that. Let's talk about some refs, okay? Let's talk about a situation that's been brewing, okay? Every time they run the play, they cheat.
1:08:19Darius Butler:Oh, man.
1:08:20Pat McAfee:Every time they run the play, they jump off sides. Nobody ever calls it. It's a point of emphasis. Hey, can't be doing it. Everybody's got to be on the line of scrimmage. We've got to make sure we're not jumping off sides. You're calling on everybody else. You're not calling Philadelphia Eagles. And then yesterday, yesterday, or as Dan Orlovsky says, yesterday, this was egregious. Now, the original tweet that hit the internet that everybody saw said the whistle was blown early. Whistle was never blown. They just actually went back. Whistle wasn't blown until Thibodeau had the ball in his hand.
1:08:50Pat McAfee:So, like, whistle is not blown until, like, right there, after he has the ball, you know? Wow. Yeah, so they said it was a stop of forward progress, which is why they called it. But he's the one lunging forward. So what we think happened is that the refs actually thought that was a goal line. And it was like, nope, that's a touchdown. Go ahead and just keep it moving. And we've heard a lot of New York expedited review dropping into people's ears saying, hey, this ain't right, this ain't right, we can fix this. They didn't do that here. So now everybody's saying Philadelphia Eagles are on the take.
1:09:20Pat McAfee:This is exactly what we've been saying about the tush push. And it's going to continue to get real loud, especially as these plays continue to happen. Now, did this ultimately decide the game? No, but it even happening, AJ, I think people were like, this can't be real life, especially with all the conversation around it already. No, I thought this was a fumble for sure. But you knew they weren't going to be able to change it because of how they do the stupid rules and whatever. They say that the whistle was blown, even though it wasn't. Now, even if, okay, the whistle was not blown. They said it was.
1:09:49The refs know going forward, do not, like, let's wait a beat before we blow the whistle. Like, this could happen. This is a real-life situation. Like, I hope they know going forward that And the point of emphasis should be to not blow the whistle until he truly is stopped, even if he has the ball like this.
1:10:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, just when it's in the field of play, call it as a football play. Yeah. I think that's what I have to be told. I genuinely think he was viewing it like it was the end zone. Like, oh, push push. We know what this is about. Yep, he did it again. He did it again. 92 percenters or whatever they call it. And obviously this gets very loud, especially from Giants fans who are in the same division. What are we supposed to do with everything going on? and they got this going on. Is that not your exact reaction, Bruce Brown? Yeah, it's an absolute farce. They can't force the false starts that happen basically every other time they run it.
1:10:34And now this, he's reaching forward in the same motion that Thibodeau takes it and they say his forward progress has stopped. Absolute joke, man. It's a travesty.
1:10:43Pat McAfee:Now that's a Giants fan. It's overreaction Monday, but he's not the only one that feels that way. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has traveled to Kansas City. We do not believe he's on the call, but we know he's going to be live for Monday Night Football. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback and NFL guru for ESPN, Dan Orlovsky. Dan O! Dan O! Dan O! Dan O! Dan O! Thanks for joining us, Dan, from the back of a very nice SUV, it appears. We were just chit-chatting about the tush push there, about the call yesterday and the egregiousness of it all. And obviously, Philadelphia gets back on track doing their thing.
1:11:23Pat McAfee:obviously terrible injury to scadaboo in this and uh i think we all believe in the giants though right don't we all kind of believe in the giants going on direction for sure i think we all believe in the giants going forward but also the philadelphia eagles got back to who we think they are with saquon barkley going absolutely crazy and then this taking place your kind of takeaway not only on this play but the eagles yesterday as a whole dan orlovsky well on this play the nfl's lucky that it doesn't really have an impact on the game because if it did there would be massive uproar. I've never really had a passionate take or feeling on either side of the whole tush-push thing.
1:11:56But after watching this, I'm out on it. I can respect it and appreciate for everything that it's been accomplished and whatnot. But we can't have this play in football where it's a clear and obvious fumble to every human being that has ever watched a game. But for some reason and a whistle and whatnot, It's just a play right now that I think is impossible for officials to defend fairly, I guess, or equally. So this play for me has got to be one that we move away from. Oh, Dan!
1:12:30Pat McAfee:Okay, Dan. All right, Dan. Dan doesn't want a football play to happen. What if they ref it correctly, though? What if the refs start calling it? That's the thing. It's the way it's officiated. I don't know if you can, AJ. I don't know since it's such a unique play if you can. I was just overreacting because that's what you hear from Johns and super-duper football people saying, if everybody can do this and it's an easy play, why can't everybody do this and it's an easy play? This is a skill that we have. And then now with all the super-duper slowdown, it's like, well, the skill is also kind of cheating a little bit and the ref's not being able to call it.
1:13:04Pat McAfee:Not that that's the Eagles' fault. The Eagles can do whatever the hell they want. They ran it four straight times, primetime TV. If you don't like it, watch it. Here it is even more. They got to do what they got to do to win a game. They did that. Let's talk about tonight's game that you're on your way to. Commanders taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, a lot of blowouts yesterday. Do you forecast another one this evening? Or do you think Marcus Mariota, Cliff Kingsbury, and the Commanders are going to be able to keep this one a battle and maybe even win this thing, Dano? Maybe even beat the Chiefs on Monday night.
1:13:30No, I expect this to be one-sided. A.K.A. Washington defensively keep Patrick under 350 yards. This is a Washington defense that has just really struggled, and Kansas City has absolutely hit its stride offensively in the last month or so. The addition of the two receivers has been absolutely tremendous. But the real thing is some of their schematic changes. There's a lot that they'd throw at you right now. They protect Patrick, and it's, hey, if the shot's there, great. If not, go run around and make a play because we've given you time to go create. You see some of their 4x1 formations that when they get in those 4x1 formations, There are so many different options that they can get to offensively.
1:14:11Rasheed one-on-one, the speed of Xavier Worthy, Hollywood down in the red zone, their willingness to run the football. It has not been ridiculous, the run game, but just the ability to run it and be efficient and have the willingness to do it. I just don't believe that Washington can match up. Doran Armstrong was Washington's really best pass rusher so far this year. He's out. They're struggling in coverage mightily. They're struggling to get pressure. if Kansas City plays up to their game, this should be a 35-plus point game for their offense.
1:14:44Pat McAfee:That would not be good for the NFL. First time since 1970, or second time since 1970, where only one game was decided by one score or less. Yeah, here it is. One game decided by single digits on Sunday, Jets and Bengals. That's since 1970. Shout out to ESPN Research and Hembo. And maybe tonight just makes it a full, clean sweep on its entirety. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Dano, the Packers obviously last night looked very good against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jordan Love, when you watch him play, are you seeing – he looked pretty damn good last night. What do you see when you watch him progress as a player in this league?
1:15:17He seems to me like he is supremely confident, and I just love that he takes shots down the field and he's not scared. Yeah, if their under center play action game is working, you can't stop their offense. You just got to hope that you can hold them down in the red zone. That's when they're at their best. Their offensive line has not played great this year, so that under center is a big deal. and then Jordan's just being really great with his decision making this is the guy that has for a couple years now been crushed with his decision making or in many people's eyes that he's been a poor decision maker his decision making has been as good as basically any quarterback in football this year Jordan loves and then you know the the way that they use their different personnel you see Tucker Craft in one-on-one situations the way that they create dog for situations the check down game for them has been really consistent.
1:16:05You know, the Williams use, they've got a lot of different pieces. They don't really need a number one receiver. Now, let me say this. Christian Watson being back was absolutely enormous. Christian Watson, when he's healthy and impacting their offense, just because his size and strength. They don't really have a size, speed, strength guy at the wide receiver spot outside of Christian. So when Christian's there, it's a different offense. I love the way that Jordan's been playing this year. I think he's playing the best football of his career.
1:16:34Pat McAfee:Let's go down to Houston, Texas with a huge win for them. It feels like they needed this. Go ahead, Tone.
1:16:40Darius Butler:Yeah, Dan, 30 of 39 for 318, I believe is what CJ Stroud had. Would I be wrong in saying this is the best game he looked since probably his rookie season? And what do you think was the difference in this game versus the Houston Texans offense for the rest of the year, which has had flashes but not really been great. Yeah, 100%. That's the best game that CJ has played since 2023. A couple things. The two young receivers really stepped up. Noel and Higgins were outstanding. And then CJ played. When you guys hear football talk, you've often heard people like me say he played hot, right? Defense brings a blitz.
1:17:20Sometimes defense brings a pressure, and you know that everybody's one-on-one blocking, and we call that playing warm as a quarterback. He played warm really well. And that doesn't mean that – and that's something – let me say this. That's something that they've – he has and they have in Houston really struggled with in the last year and a half is like dealing with pressure, both by a plan and execution. He was sensational yesterday. And then the other side, the flip side of this is you see no Bosa, no Huff show up. I mean, they could not, San Francisco, get near CJ. CJ at times had plenty of opportunity to get from the second or third progression.
1:17:58So the two young receivers, CJ was outstanding when it came to just playing warm and playing on time. He got through progressions. And then if you're San Francisco, it's a precursor. Maybe it's a little bit of like a concern warning sign of God bless. We couldn't get anywhere near the quarterback.
1:18:15Pat McAfee:Let's move away from the AFC South and let's go to the AFC North. Conman has a question for you, Dano. Yeah, Dan, out of nowhere, not really out of nowhere, because everyone thought the Ravens were going to be great, and they still might have that in front of them. They're currently minus 105 to win the AFC North, but they're 2-5. The Steelers are 4-3. The Bengals are 3-4. How should we feel about the Ravens, do you think? Lamar coming back. Are they going to really start to go now? Derrick Henry gets in the end zone twice yesterday. So do you think the Ravens should be the favorites in the AFC North?
1:18:50and what should our expectations then be for the Steelers and Bengals in that division? Yeah, I still say that Pittsburgh is the favorite. Obviously, last night and the past two weeks, there's conversations around them. But let me say this about Baltimore. It's tough to really gauge offensively. They ran the ball a little bit better. They got the ball to Zay Flowers. They were creative in some of their play calls down the red zone. Bateman won on some one-on-one routes. But yesterday really was about Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. Those two guys played so much better, specifically Roquan, than he had at the really beginning of the season.
1:19:26Kyle as a blitzer was outstanding. Chicago really didn't have any plan for what pressure was going to look like or how to pick it up. So I'm encouraged by the Ravens, but mainly because of the way that the defense and those two defensive stars played. This is a very poor decision. Let me talk about this play, right, for Caleb before we end up with the Ravens. see how long it takes from him to when he gets the top of his drop so the ball gets out of his hands ball's out now see like see he's late so that's when everyone this whole long season was talking about timing and rhythm it i bet you from the time he gets to the top of his drop to that ball comes out of his hands push it a second that's way too long ball should be out now so you're probably half a second late and the ball should go to the flat so it's an outstanding interception but that's what gives you concern and that's why I've talked about for the last three or four weeks with Caleb is like the inconsistency has really been uh prevalent over the last month with his play there's been moments but inconsistency but I do I do think if you're Baltimore you have to be encouraged by the way the defense played okay let's talk about
1:20:33Pat McAfee:Caleb a little bit more this is his first time really doing this Ben thing go yeah so now we're kind of at the mid-season point and the Bears they had a nice little winning streak there got knocked off yesterday but what is kind of your mid-season uh report card on caleb williams and this ben johnson uh relationship i'd give caleb a c right now if i was giving him a grade it would be about as average as it could be and there's been moments you know where early in the season he there was stretches where he looked very good and then there's been a drive here or there in the last four or five weeks where he's made like a good clutch throw and you feel encouraged.
1:21:12But what's what has been prevalent over the last month or so is one holding on to the football two. And this is where I'm most concerned with the butt is it's the extreme of playing way too fast or playing way too slow where we haven't found that sweet spot for Caleb yet, where sometimes you're so sped up. Even yesterday, there's three or four clips where, you know, he's so sped up and playing so fast that you're ready to throw the football before the receiver is even remotely close to out of his cut or out of his break or the window is going to be open or you're playing slow like on that interception where you get to the top of your drop and instead of hitching, like he stands flat-footed.
1:21:53Look at him. He just stops there. That's not how that offense is operated. That's not how that pass game, that play action game is operated. It is all about the timing of your feet and so i'm not sounding the alarms here but what i am saying is this last month or so he's kind of been stuck and they got to get him to consistently play to the right pace with his drop in the timing of their concepts because until he does it's just not it's just not going to be what it should be offensively we hear what you're saying you got to get there fast
1:22:29Pat McAfee:and then take it slow. Right? That Bret Michaels? That's where we want to go. Way down in Cocoa. Yes. He was about to finish. Yeah, he was about to finish. He loved it. He loved it. Why don't we go now? We'll get there fast and we'll take it slow that's where you want to go away from dan no that's right is that the song yeah that's where i don't think that's the words no original lyrics i heard it yeah i heard it in there you're talking about caleb you know maybe uh rushing through or maybe taking his time there's other quarterbacks here that out of nowhere in the mvp conversation alongside jonathan taylor go Go ahead, Ty.
1:23:26Yeah, Dano, there are a couple guys, specifically Drake May, though. He's doing stuff week in and week out that we've seemingly never seen before or either haven't seen since Tom Brady. Are you surprised at how quickly his development has kind of skyrocketed, how good he's got? And also, how far can Drake May take the Patriots playing like this? He could absolutely take them to a division title, and I'm not surprised by it. I called a couple of his games in college. He's a tremendous player. And I'm not surprised by it also because Josh McDaniels is freaking unreal. I fudging love what's going on in New England.
1:24:03Can't say that. Fudging. Yeah, dude. There's so – they're the reverse of pendency. They throw so much at you. Dude, Connor, I'm sure you watched the game yesterday. There's a drive in the third quarter that starts at like 11 minutes, and they throw six or seven straight plays of different personnel, different formations, same motion, but different play. It's nuts. And Josh McDaniels, when I say reverse of tendencies, they throw so many different personnel groupings at you. Sometimes there's two backs. Sometimes there's two tight ends. They throw so many different looks at you when it comes to what this – like Josh McDaniels will always call play in the first quarter, and then there's always going to be a different play off of a very similar look in the second quarter and then there's always going to be a very similar play off of that those same initial two looks in the third quarter Kayshaun Boutte is a top five receiver in the NFL right now when it comes to touchdowns when it comes to yards per catch that's insane how impressive that connection has been Drake's playing unbelievable football I don't know if there's a guy um you know like there's no question he's playing top five football right now and it's good enough to no question win them division.
1:25:20Pat McAfee:Okay, and this is a stat from Hembo here talking about the completion percentage. You know, normally reserved for just pocket passers and rhythm offenses. Look at the rush yards Drew Brees had, 25 of them whenever he was completing this. Jared Goff had 16 rush yards this far. Tom Brady had 25 rush yards. This guy's got 250 rush yards alongside a 75 % completion percentage. So it's like what he's doing is exactly what he did in North Carolina. yeah north carolina he led the team in rushing and he led it obviously in passing and then you talk about his feet and caleb he's only gotten better right he feels like because everybody talked about him maybe not being able to operate in an nfl system because he's too yeah this guy's too athletic he's been too used to being the most athletic guy mcdaniels has just got him to lock in or has this been something he's been doing since he got there i that's the thing that is the surprising thing i would say is you know when he was at north carolina there wasn't a lot of rhythm and timing offense.
1:26:14It was a heavy RPO, throw the ball downfield offense. And he was an elite at it. He was elite, but you didn't see a lot of things that were going to carry over into the NFL. I think the thing that's been most surprising about Drake May is he plays on time, he plays on rhythm, and he never looks too fast for him. You know, like when the balls, that's an unbelievable read right there. I believe he throws that ball to Travion Henderson, a tailback, another lovely play call and design where that ball is thrown over the top so i think that's the thing that's most surprising about drake is you've watched this this uh pocket passing on time development another beautiful play called development but he never looks sped up he never looks hurried he never looks out of control it's just this constant i'm in control i know exactly what i'm looking at and you know what the second thing that's probably been most impressive is he never gets fooled with coverage for a kid who just did not see a ton of different coverage schemes and rotations in college he never gets fooled with coverage because we went through a lot at him coverage wise yesterday and it was like a walk in the park for that young man miles
1:27:25Pat McAfee:garrett had five sacks they showed that highlight at the end he was throwing his helmet down in anger as they were showing that he had a five sack that's what he signed up that one exactly Exactly, which is what everybody said. And then that one play there we showed, third and 23, very good Cleveland Browns defense. They are picketing at the sticks, still picking up with delivery and everything he's got going on. Unbelievable good, Conman. Yeah, he's 23 now. He won't be 24 until August. Jaden Daniels turned 24 during his rookie year, but you mentioned it with Myles Garrett. He was getting a ton of pressure, and he never got rattled.
1:27:57He didn't get the happy feet, oh, I might get hit. He stood in the pocket, and he kept throwing the ball, and it's just one of those things where you would, you know, you're just very excited.
1:28:05Pat McAfee:Is that the little brother effect, you think? Some of it, for sure. And, you know, coming from an athletic family, being able to take – because the one thing about Josh McDaniels seems like he is a hard coach too, like a hard-nosed coach, like sticks to the details. And all the things that you've seen behind the scenes with Drake, he seems like one of the most coachable guys, and that's one of the things you worry about, especially when you get to this level with quarterbacks and egos and things like that. So he's everything that Clyde Christian told us he would be. And now coaching, you see how much it matters on this level.
1:28:37And for what you just said, for a guy that got sacked five times by one guy to not be sped up and to still be in control of being a young guy like that, the sky's the limit.
1:28:44Pat McAfee:He's third in MVP odds right now behind Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Daniel Jones plus 1 ,100. Drake May plus 450. Josh Allen plus 400. Mahomes plus 150 at ESPN. Congratulations to these guys. Have an incredible season. AJ has the last question for you, Dano. Yeah, Dano, are the Dolphins fully back now with Tua? Obviously, big 34-10 victory over the Falcons. I assume you're back on the Dolphins. No, but it was nice to see Tua look like Tua. I mean, it was just the elite timing that we've grown accustomed to. He did. He had a new eye. They had an advisor. One eye. Oh, I'd say this, though. In that game, it was the most physical I've seen Miami probably under Mike McDaniel.
1:29:29Just so much more physical in general. Their offense had an attitude to it. Their defense had an attitude to it. Atlanta could not do anything against that defense. But the physical commitment to run the football in a traditional style, a little bit of an old-school style, and then Tua was just surgical with this timing, which is kind of what we've become accustomed to. That ball is nuts. A custom two with Tua. I'm not all the way back on them because obviously it's a long road and their injuries and lack of talent are real. But I will say, outstanding performance on the road, but way more concerning in regards to Atlanta than it was feeling positive about Miami.
1:30:09Pat McAfee:Atlanta gets blown out by the Panthers. Huge win. Blown out by the Dolphins. Probably have a huge win going forward. Kirk Cousins obviously didn't look that spectacular in his season debut. Let's go back to Gumpy, Miami Dolphins superfan. We're back. We got the same record as the Ravens.
1:30:24Darius Butler:Yeah, we went with 6-0 linemen yesterday. Three-headed monster. Ollie Gordon, A-Chan, Jalen Wright out of Tennessee. Got some burn yesterday. I mean, we just pounded the rock. Stopped the run. Physical football team yesterday.
1:30:36Pat McAfee:Dan Orlovsky, you heard Tone Diggs say everybody's doing it. That's Artie Smith, Aaron Rodgers, creating the new wave in the NFL of six offensive linemen and then getting a little bit more protection for the quarterback. Is that an Artie Smith, Pittsburgh Steelers thing that you're going to have to give credit to on national television? no that's really a joe brady buffalo thing from last year
1:30:56there's so many teams doing it right now there's so many i think there's like five or six things that if you're not doing in the nfl right now offensively i just think you're behind the times under center under center like you've been saying for philly to put the quarterback under center more you're seeing more and more teams do it philadelphia does it all of a sudden there's good success i mean philadelphia through week five or week six led the nfl in negatives i don't know if they have two or three negatives in the last two weeks. They put Jalen under center way more than they have in the first five weeks.
1:31:26They've gone and used play action way more than they did in the first five weeks. They've thrown the ball in the middle of the field. So I think you've got to put the quarterback under center. I think you've got to go with six offensive linemen occasionally. I think you've got to get in different four-by-one formations. I think you've got to go early down play action. Those are the trends in the NFL right now that I think are massive.
1:31:46Pat McAfee:No problem. Everybody should do all that. You're the man. ladies and gentlemen. Wow, I heard that stat. What are you doing? You got NFL Live out there? Yes, sir. How's the show going to be? Pretty good. How's the weather? It looks like it's a little gloomy-doomy. It does look good. Yeah, it's gray. It's gray. It's not too cold, which I'll take. It's about 58, 59 degrees, but gray. There's a lot of gray right there. What are you walking into there? Is that makeup? You're about to get all suited and booted? This is like the new central location on site. It's an RV. Oh, sick. Oh, sick. Is this doors down?
1:32:17Pat McAfee:Hey, don't be taking this. No dumps in there. No, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure this is for, like, Monday night countdown, but they let us in. Oh, nice. All right, it's your show, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Darren Lawson. Yeah. Dan's going to dump in there. Oh, with that. For sure. Hey, excuse me. Where's the John? It's in the back. Got it. There's two of them. Actually, which one are we going to be around? This front one? Let me go in here. No later. He's so tall. Got to break it in. He's going to be in that thing. Boom, bang, pal. How you doing? AJ, have you commented about my muchos gracias yet or not?
1:32:48Yeah, I mean, I know that you like it cold, and I cannot imagine how you feel right now, especially that genuine synthetic leather you got on those arms. You've got to be sweating.
1:32:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'm dripping sweat. I went to the bathroom. Tank top is drenched underneath here. It's a cool jacket. I do look very cool. I do look very cool, I feel like. I've been trying to flip the collar, but it's too – That wasn't flipped. The collar should be white. What if the collar was white so you could really tell? Well, come back back to the hasta la muerte. We are glad you like it, me amigo. Okay, I'm your friend. That's what I thought. I think that's our last one, right? Me friend. Yep. My friend. Checks out. Muchos. Que estamos, me amigos. Muchas gracias por lo jaceto. I love it. Yo. Yo.
1:33:36Pat McAfee:Yo.
1:33:38Darius Butler:Amor. Te amo. Te amo.
1:33:40Pat McAfee:Yo, te amo?
1:33:41Darius Butler:No, just yo. Yo. Te amo.
1:33:44Pat McAfee:I love it. I love it. It's really cool looking.
1:33:49Darius Butler:I don't know. We're glad you like it as a direct English to Spanish translation there.
1:33:53Pat McAfee:Well, we got the Raul. I believe Raul probably runs that social media there. He's a good man. Probably. NFL Mexico. They love ball. Think about these international correspondents. Think about how much they love ball. Okay, they're like drumming up. They're like campaigning for the sport of football in their countries. You talk about McQuaid. Yeah. Obviously, we've gotten a chance to know him. Raul and the NFL Mexico people, they will take any opportunity to be like, yes, we will spread the love of game. So we're on their side too. But Raul's not just drumming up bullshit stats. What do you mean bullshit?
1:34:27Pat McAfee:McQuaid was boots on the ground last night. What was the McQuaid stat about no early game and the happiness level of the American football fans because UK and Europe didn't provide a morning game yesterday? Yeah, so they actually went around to 1 ,500 fans over there, lads, and they had one of the doctor's cards. You know, like two kind of pain. Four, a little more pain. Six, a little bit more pain. Eight, a lot of pain. Ten, worst pain ever. And he basically said, like, lads, how you feeling after that game? And he just, you know, everyone said with it. Average on the doctor little card scale that they've been using forever.
1:35:03Averaged a 9.1, lads.
1:35:05Pat McAfee:Oh, so much pain. This weekend, exactly.
1:35:08Darius Butler:He was standing on the Parkway West stopping cars actually last night. Was he really? Yeah, he was in town for the game. He was. He was in North Carolina for Chapel Bill this weekend. He was doing it all. McQuade. McQuade did quite the weekend.
1:35:21Pat McAfee:For the good of ball. Yeah, exactly. Legitimately for the good of ball. College football had some massive, massive, massive things take place, including a firing of LSU's Brian Kelly, which obviously I don't think anybody could have seen coming from the moment he was hired at LSU. Yeah. Now, on that note, good football coach. Okay, good football coach. I obviously played at West Virginia whenever he was coaching at Cincinnati. then obviously he goes to Notre Dame has success there, goes to LSU he's good, wins a lot of his games but I don't think anybody at any point and we weren't as baptized into the college football world at the time of him being hired at LSU as we are now could you imagine our reaction now if Brian Kelly would have got hired at LSU I mean we would have, that's almost I mean his family thing, oh yeah from immediately, the photos and I don't want to mock him because if I speak to some southern people i will certainly slow that down a little bit too to them so i don't want to judge him for it but was it ever gonna work you know never felt never felt like a great fit it never did and he's walking out of there with 50 some million potential negotiated buyout happening currently allegedly if you're listening to reports and now lsu's uh wide open florida i thought it was gonna work i did maybe it's because like you said the big east days been in cincinnati he was a good coach in Notre Dame, but the thing was like, oh, he'll never be able to get the guys.
1:36:41Yeah, he didn't have the players. And then you go to LSU, which the three previous coaches before him all won national championships, right? So I didn't think, you know, Brian Kelly would be just a slappy. I thought he was a good football coach. Jaden Daniels, Heisman, you know, you're going to have the talent. There's a bunch of Louisiana guys in the NFL. They're going to be a bunch of five stars in that state. But now that's probably the best job, best college job available right now.
1:37:05Pat McAfee:On that note, Tone Diggs, Yes, I did. College football author put out a poll. Best job, LSU, Florida, or Penn State? LSU, now we are from Pittsburgh. We have a lot of Big Ten, obviously, ties with our program because of our location here in Indianapolis, Indiana. We thought maybe Penn State would get a little bit of a leaner here. LSU is kind of what everybody's saying. LSU is saying, hey, this is an incredible job. Three out of the last four coaches won national championships there at LSU with the amount of talent. Florida, obviously, the state of Florida, always going to be good. Penn State has all the resources in the world and a lot of history.
1:37:39Pat McAfee:Were you surprised that LSU won this poll on your Twitter account by the wide margin that it did?
1:37:43Darius Butler:By the wide margin, yes. Was I surprised that they won? No. I thought it would be a little more closer, a little more 30 % for everyone. But, you know, just like D-Budd said, and you talk about the last three coaches who were there all win a national championship. They all talk about the recruiting base down there, and you don't have to, you know, compete with those other Florida schools when you're at a school like Florida situation. Yes, Penn State probably has the most money, but when you put everything together, yeah, LSU is the spot.
1:38:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, obviously this is the storyline right now is the amount of buyouts. There's reports now these are just the head coach's buyouts, let alone all the assistant coaches and everything like that. What schools and teams and organizations are willing to do to try to win a national championship, especially with the amount of money that is being invested in these teams and in these programs, it's crazy times. The reason why Brian Kelly was fired is because Texas A &M went in there and absolutely crushed them. Texas A &M might be best team in country. There's a few of those teams. Vandy gets a huge win over Missouri.
1:38:40Pat McAfee:That is gigantic for their program. Obviously, all eyes were in Nashville on this Vanderbilt team. And Diego Pavia, Coach Clark Lee, and the boys showed up in a big way, get a huge win over Missouri with the eyes and the pressure of the world upon them. Now, they thought maybe with Alabama a couple weeks back, they weren't able to beat them. This was going to be another game. They weren't going to be able to prove who they are. Diego Pavia and the boys get a huge win. Congrats to them. And then Ole Miss beats Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma on game day, AJ, because Matier was back. And what we saw from them earlier in the year in the Oklahoma defense is so damn good.
1:39:21Pat McAfee:The reason why he's the head coach at Oklahoma is because of how damn good his defense is. Then you add in the weather. It's like, well, you would think Oklahoma would be able to ponder them here. Ole Miss wouldn't be able to handle it all. Instead, yeah, right, Ole Miss, huge win. Win it, Dad, is what they're calling the quarterback and the head coach of that team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, obviously football coaching legend, Lane Kiffin. Yeah! There we go! I picked Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma. That's 100 % on me, coach. I apologize for that. I should have known that you guys are exactly who you've said you are.
1:39:58Pat McAfee:dogs willing to go into anywhere any environment and win what did you learn from your team with this Oklahoma win and how do you feel about where you guys sit at this moment of college football well you helped motivate us Pat just so you know there's a lot of talk on the bus about this pick of yours and everybody picking against us SEC nation every single person picked against us I don't know if anybody picked it Laura Rutledge daughter picked us is the only person that we appreciate Laura Rulidge's daughter having a forecast of it all but you do draw from that I assume you pull from that type of stuff with your team whenever you're motivating and what did you see from your team in the win over Oklahoma well those guys see that stuff so I don't know how much that works um Trinidad mentioned it uh you know he's like because he thought like you and him were boys you know because you FaceTime on the bus normally for games like you know a big game you know like LSU you did and then all of a sudden you jumped off and you picked Georgia we lost to Georgia and then strictly business they told me they told me all you did was talk about Oklahoma's quarterback how great he was going to play so thank you thank you for doing that whoa whoa I love Trinidad I mean I heard Winadad for the first time I love the name fire I love everything about him but I didn't know enough about him is what I think and now Mateer I learned quickly about him.
1:41:19Pat McAfee:So that's 100 % on me. Please tell Trinidad that I apologize for not knowing enough about his game. That's on me. That's on me. Guess who's hanging out right here? What's that? You can tell him yourself. No, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Win it, Dad. Win it, Dad. Hey, I love you, man. I absolutely love you, dude. Yeah, I'm part of the problem here, Win it, Dad. I just want to let you know that's on me not having enough belief in you. I didn't understand the amount of dog that was in you, Trinidad. That's 100 % on me. How do you feel, brother? And also, I love that you want to check me for this. It makes me like you even more in it all, Trinidad.
1:41:55Appreciate you, Pat. Feeling good after the win, man. You know, Oklahoma, that was a tough team, but, you know, we found a way to win, so it was good.
1:42:01Pat McAfee:Now, Trinidad, I heard, you know, because you don't play in front of a lot of people and maybe the weather's bad, that you were going to be ass. Now, everybody around you says that's not who you are at all. Mental tough guy from Michigan. What do we maybe not know enough about you and this team that maybe some of the doubters don't know, Trinidad? I mean, that we find ways to win, you know, all season. We've had a pretty good season so far, you know, against Georgia. It wasn't the outcome that we wanted, but, you know, versus Oklahoma, we bounced back, and Coach was excited to see how we would bounce back and, you know, just happy that we got the win, really.
1:42:35Pat McAfee:Congrats, Winidad. What a name. Hell yeah. What a name. Great to see you, brother. Congrats on a huge win, and the entire world needs to know your story. This dude comes from Ferris State. Okay, becomes a dog. Goes to Ole Miss. Gets thrust into action. Doesn't miss a beat. And that's why they don't call him Trues of Dad. You know, they call him Trinidad. Because all this guy does is win at that, Donner. Congrats, Trinidad. Yeah. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you, man. Okay, now, since he's a little bit too close, so I don't want to add any. Yeah, yeah. He's out now. Back to film study. Got to grind.
1:43:10Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Don't worry. I'm like you, man. I keep him down, too. Yeah, that's a whole other one. We should have won by three scores in that game if he would have done everything he should.
1:43:20Pat McAfee:Okay, well, wait till the rat poison I'm about to pour on your entire team for the rest of this entire thing. Trinidad just walking into that interview for us. So cool. Very, very thankful for that. But on that note, we just talked about the big story coming out of this weekend. Not you guys getting a huge win over Oklahoma. Not Vandy, obviously, solidifying being a powerhouse at this point with all eyes on them getting a huge win over Missouri. The big story is obviously another coach fired at a massive place. Your name gets brought up for all of these things. How do you handle that with team?
1:43:49Pat McAfee:How do you talk about it? Because obviously you said they see everything. What is your kind of, you know, communication with the team as all this kind of is happening around you, coach? Yeah, I usually don't talk about it with the team because we've dealt with this for a number of years because our players have performed really well and won a lot of games here. And so this attention has come with that. I just thought last week it was important late in the week to address it on Friday just because we have so many new players. So they hadn't been here, you know, the year or the year before that where, you know, these job rumors and stuff would come up.
1:44:25And so I just told them, hey, this is a product of how you guys play is why they see the way that you play. So then people are like, fans are like, we want that system. And they say coach. But really it's the system of the players and the assistant coaches and what a good job they do. So I just told them that's a compliment to them. And I think it's easier for them nowadays because remember, basically the same thing happens to them. They have a good game. What happens? You know, our freshman receiver has a good game Saturday night. He's got three calls from places telling them, hey, come here.
1:44:56We'll give you more money, you know, pre-portaling, you know, before the portal opens. That's what happens. and um so they deal with this all the time uh places saying oh come here you'll get more money because they're performing well so i don't think it's that big a deal to them so you feel like the
1:45:13Pat McAfee:modern athlete a little bit more entrepreneurial kind of understand the hype and also the amount of kind of extra shit that could take place because they've been born and raised in it is that kind of how you feel about it yeah and like i said it happens to them where before that would never happen in college so the player you know wouldn't have any examples of that in his own life where it happens to them got it and a lot of our guys were portaled to come here and so they're used to that now it's just kind of the world that they live in go ahead aj yeah coach i would imagine like behind the scenes what if you're a product of your own success obviously it's a very it's a big compliment to you and your team that everybody wants to bring you in in your system but i would imagine there are a lot of like parents that that see these reports and call in and wonder what's going on with their kid on the roster also recruits like do you have to work on behind the scenes stuff all the time when things like this come up um probably not as much as you think um just because like i said it's happened before so guys on our roster parents they're they're familiar with it and so um not as much as you think and um in recruiting you know we just talk about the product that we put um the positions that we put them into play and the success that we've had here so um we don't deal with it near as much as you would think yeah i think this era and this generation you know just kind of understands it a lot more than maybe back in the day because we've been exposed to more of that now on that note you are different and operate differently than everybody else i think which is why so many people in so many schools are interested go ahead d bud yeah absolutely we know uh from the outside looking in we can't hear all the shit talk going on between the lines or maybe even on the sideline there was some interaction with you and an Oklahoma player after the game.
1:46:53What kind of happened before the cameras caught you before you got to that interview?
1:46:57Pat McAfee:Here it is, actually. Hold on one second, Coach. Oh, are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma's players? This guy yelled at me during the game like five times how great they were and we can't score on them. Yeah, I love that. Obviously, no other coach is doing that. So, obviously incredible. What was that? How was that? How did we get to that point? Well, that that happens a lot I think with me and players and interaction and during the game um especially defensive players you know um a lot of times they'll say things to me in warm-ups I don't know maybe they view me as different as other coaches they kind of talk to me like they do a player so um I embrace it um probably because I give it to them sometimes too and so uh he'd said a lot during the game you know when he's on my sideline you look at me like you ain't gonna score all day you know so um i really wasn't trying to do it on camera and interesting enough i've had a number of players transfer over the years that said hey one of the reasons was we loved the way that you interacted with us on the other other side during the game and we wanted to play for a coach like that so i think our players actually love it that's hilarious yeah listen i talk shit to you you immediately fired back i told everybody this guy's awesome i don't know how yeah that is bruce Arians.
1:48:15Pat McAfee:That is literally Bruce Arians. Bruce Arians, same exact thing. During practices, offense coordinator, defense, talking shit to each other. Players love it. I like that you still have that in you throughout this entire process of evolving of who you are and becoming this person at this stage of your life that maybe is different than the old past. I like that you still got your edge. I like that you still got your edge. Now, on that note, your team seemingly has great edge. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, I understand anything can happen on any given Saturday, but you guys are pretty much through the the real teeth of your conference schedule right now.
1:48:47And I don't think you really need any extra motivation to get up when you're playing teams like Alabama or Georgia or LSU, you know, take your pick. But how do you avoid kind of the letdown when down the stretch here, you have, you know, some of these teams from the bottom half of the sec who, if you're not coming in prepared, obviously anybody can get got on any Saturday. Yeah, they can. There's examples all, all over the place of it and in college football, But the SEC now is really the NFL. You look at these games, so many games are one score, you know, or now you got so many teams going to overtime to beat teams that they were, you know, supposedly much better than.
1:49:27So that's what we're in. That's the world we're in. And so we got to get up every single week and tell guys about that. And this is a really good example. You know, this is an extremely talented South Carolina team. this is a off the charts talented quarterback that can beat you and um so we're gonna have to be ready to play i mean these guys are ahead of alabama just you know a few days ago and alabama is a great team so this is this is what we're in we're in the nfl and the sec and uh you better be
1:50:00Pat McAfee:ready every week i uh i love to hear that mentality and that's good coach and once again why your name is up for every single job that's available and will be forever and you having to lock in and continue to do your job in the SEC while still trying to make playoffs and win championships. Crazy thing for you, Coach, is to deal with, especially with the numbers. Yeah. The numbers we're all hearing about, Lano. Listen, Brian Kelly could be a professional golfer the next six years, getting paid$54 million. That'd be more than Scotty fucking Scheffler. I don't know. Okay, so you guys have earned it, obviously.
1:50:30Pat McAfee:Good for the state, good for the program. Tone has a last question for you here, Coach.
1:50:34Darius Butler:Yeah, Coach, I do. I was wondering if you have a chance on Sundays to witness what Jackson Dart is doing, and if any of it surprises you because his moxie and everything feels like it's perfect for New York and he's been off to a great start. Well, right before I go to that, what Pat said there, just so you know, because you haven't known me very long, Pat, I have never made a decision based off of money, nor will I. Love that. For a lot of people, they're just like, well, money and it does this and does that. I've seen too many examples in life where money does not by happiness. So I'm never going to make a decision off money.
1:51:08Um, nor, nor do I care about it. And, um, it's good to have Jimmy Sexton gets really mad when I say that. He's got enough. We got to get this. We got to get this. And I'm like, Jimmy, I don't care. And he goes, I do.
1:51:23Pat McAfee:He said, that's why I'm here. Of course. That is why I'm here. But to the Jackson, he's awesome. you know he's my only other FaceTime guy he FaceTimes me too you know so most people just call Pat and Jackson they're big FaceTime guys I want to see good to know Jackson after his big win two weeks ago you know the next morning he FaceTimed me and I was in the quarterback meeting and he was in bed and I said this was really weird I do not need FaceTimes from you you know until you get up and start moving around. So he's just such a cool kid, and he's so competitive, and everybody just feeds off it.
1:52:02So I'm just so happy to see him, just like he would be as a dad. Like my own son just had two comebacks. Yeah. Two games. Jackson to play. I feel like I'm watching his son. I'm just so happy for him.
1:52:13Pat McAfee:Congrats to Knox. We've been following along on the internet with that incredible high school run. They're on throwbacks and toss-ups. And congrats to you. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. All right, guys. Have a great week. And make sure you do not pick us this week, Pat. Please. No, no. Don't do that because people continue to hit me. You're a laying kid for the laying kid. Before we get out of here, before we get out of here, AJ, I think this would be a good time to let the world know on how great of a human Nick Mangold is, was, and everything like that. Honestly, I didn't want to put you on a spot, but I think hearing from friends and beloved ones is a good thing for his legacy.
1:52:48Pat McAfee:AJ, you've obviously known him a long time. just a couple of words that people need to know about him uh yeah man i don't know uh yeah nick was the man like i was nervous like to even think about coming on here and talking about him but yeah like i grew up with the dude a college roommate for four straight years um unbelievable player but yeah just there's there's no one else like him on the planet super unique dude looking back seeing pictures of us playing together in sixth grade every college memory i have is with Nick. Yeah, this was high school, actually, by the way. You see Nick is smiling in every single picture you ever see of him, pretty much.
1:53:23Look at him right here. Are you kidding me? I remember during this game we were playing, Nick was so big, country strong. I'm blitzing the A-gap wherever. I think I'm working. He makes me feel like a little toddler holding on. He's like, alright, bud, easy big guy. Easy big guy in the middle of a play. He's just what a special human. Four kids. His wife called yesterday morning. I knew something was up. It was very, very unfortunately yeah i can't believe it like just uh it doesn't feel real right now but nick nick is an absolute man and you know prayers for everyone in this family yeah you as well brother and we
1:53:53Pat McAfee:appreciate you saying good words about him like rex ryan talking about him yesterday it was obviously very difficult for rex to do that but i think it was a good message for people to hear about nick mangled you know it's uh the people that love him most singing his praises obviously mean a lot but i think you guys that have been around him and obviously his family knows this I don't know if there's another guy that's as beloved as Nick Mangold has been throughout the football community and society. Just so jolly, seemingly. This guy's so damn jolly, tough, gritty. And everything we've learned about him through you, through his family, through Rex, through teammates, through conversations, is the world lost a special, special, special man.
1:54:31Pat McAfee:And rest in peace. And we are sorry that, obviously, everybody around him is going through this. and such a perspective putter about literally we have no idea what could happen tomorrow. Now, be your friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life. We're back on the other side wrapping up this Overreaction Monday. AJ, we appreciate the hell out of you for doing that, brother. I know that was not easy. I know that was not easy. No, Nick deserves like, yeah, he deserves everything, man. Fuck yeah. Alright, we'll be back on the other side to wrap up this Overreaction Monday. Be your friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life.
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1:56:04Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this massive overreaction Monday, October 27, 2025, Hour 3 of the program begins now. Football is the greatest. That's AJ Hawk. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and Natai Schmidt. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys AP Tone is here and nine year NFL vet Darius J. Baldor is here. Let's look at tonight's game. AJ, let's see what the records are coming into tonight's game. Oh, AJ, yet again. Wow. Every week, man. Jeez. This guy's just one better. Or two better. It should be five and six. I worked you into a shoot with the Panthers because I worked myself into a shoot with the Panthers.
1:56:48That's a little inaccurate.
1:56:50Pat McAfee:You're saying six and six. But on that note, my initial hunch was the Carolina Panthers. So you didn't talk me into it completely. you did potentially steer me back that's great i did have a a full moment of the buffalo bills coming out of a bite i don't know if you saw it did you see the clip of me making the pick yeah i actually go oh wait i just saw the bills pound the panthers coming out of the bye i mean i literally that is what my brain tried to tell me but every once in a while especially with how i've been doing you're you're gonna fade yourself even so connor you didn't do anything that i wasn't already doing it myself.
1:57:28Pat McAfee:And on that note, we can still get back in tight. Washington at Kansas City. 10 and a half. Kansas City favored by 10 and a half on Monday night. It has been an entire weekend of NFL football blowouts. Will that continue tonight? Let's start with D. Butch. D. Butch, how do you see the game going? And Diggs, are there any other odds?
1:57:51Darius Butler:There is a 10 out there if you're interested in the Chiefs. You can get them minus 10. Or if you want the Commanders, you can definitely get them at that plus 10 and a half. 70 % of the money is on the Chiefs.
1:58:02Pat McAfee:How has public money continued to do?
1:58:05Darius Butler:This weekend, well let me say this, so far, favorites are 10 and 2 so far this weekend. If the Chiefs cover, that would be the best win percentage for favorites in the last 40 years. Obviously all those blowouts, that's going to happen. So far this weekend on teams that are getting 60 % or more of the bets, they are 4 and 6 this weekend, 25 and 47 on the year.
1:58:26Pat McAfee:Okay, 70 % on the Chiefs. Those odds seem to be not great. But the favorites, 10-2. So, you know, kind of stats going against each other, D-Bunch. What do you think? Kind of in a pickle right here, but everything in me, my mind, my heart, football, everything telling me Chiefs by three scores in this game. But I'm probably going to do like you did going into Sunday. I'm going to fade myself. So I'm going to actually take the Washington Commanders led by Mariano. Don't do that. I'm already doing this. Terry Terry, he's showing up on prime time. It's going to be a close game. Give me the commies plus 10.5.
1:59:00Pat McAfee:You can't be doing it. I'm already doing that. We can't have everybody. That can't just become our – that's not good. I know. There's a lot of football left. Trust me, I don't feel good about it. Come on. It's a better favorite for the MVP. Connor, what were you going to say? Just the Washington Commanders have had a shell of their offense the last three weeks because Terry McLaurin and Debo haven't played together since, I don't know, week three. So if there was any hope in the 10 points, it would be the fact that they have. Orlovsky also said, this commander's defense, yeah, right. He did say that.
1:59:32Pat McAfee:That's what Dan Orlovsky said. He said, yeah, right, buddy. They're not going to be able to stop any of it. So fast. Now, Grant, on the offensive side with Mark Spariota, who we are fans of. Yeah. I am a fan of Mark Spariota. I was trying to get him to come to the Colts, I think, at one point, to be our quarterback. Happy we got Danny Dines. Sure. Boy, do we have the perfect guy. But Mark Smariota, also great backup to have if you need him on a Monday night football game against a team that's in the middle of a dynasty. AJ, Darius Butler is fading himself. Commanders plus 10.5, even though he thinks the Chiefs are going to win by a lot.
2:00:07Pat McAfee:What are you doing with this one? Yeah, I would say maybe a week or two ago, I would tend to lean towards Washington Commanders on this one. I didn't like so many points, but I am taking the Chiefs. Minus 10, it sounds like I can get from Tone. It's going to be a raucous environment in there tonight, Pat. You should have went first, Pat. No. I didn't go the opposite edge. You know I didn't go the opposite edge. I thought you wanted the commanders. I thought you wanted commanders. No, you didn't. You didn't think that. Not one time did you think that. She's going to be there tonight. Yeah. I would hope so.
2:00:44Pat McAfee:I think Redwood's going to be running around. It's national tight ends weekend. Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, damn. That doesn't count. Two touchdowns. Ertz is a good player. Yeah, Ertz is going to score a touchdown for sure. He's a good player. I like that little parlay, actually. Ertz and Travis Kelsey getting into pain. Can I add those just to get ahead of you? Yeah, you're right. I need a couple. Also, Mark Smarietta over 35 rush shorts. There you go. Let's see what else. Those two to get into pain. You're going to take the over? Over 48 and a half?
2:01:11Darius Butler:To score, round plus, 600.
2:01:13Pat McAfee:Okay, so I'm going to take that one as well. That's six, though. If you win that, six wins. Plus 600, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Rasheed. Rasheed Rice, I think he's probably going to get in the pain as well. I mean, if we're going to start doing this. Got Mark Smerodas over in rush yards. Let's see. What else am I seeing out here? All right. Commanders plus 10 and a half, I guess. That's what I'm seeing. There you go. Because I got to. It's a lot of points. Is it, though? Have you seen what happened this weekend? Let me read these scores. Let me read these scores. 38 to 14. That was the Colts over the Titans.
2:01:46Pat McAfee:35-25, that was your Packers over Aaron Rodgers' Pittsburgh Steelers. 32-13, Patriots over the Browns. 44-24, Broncos over Cowboys. 30-16, Ravens over the Bears. 40-9, Bills did what they did to the Carolina Panthers off a bye. 26-15, that's 11, Texans and 49ers. 23-3, okay, Saints can't even bear the score point. Eagles 38, Giants 20, that's tough. 34-10 and then 39-38. Ten points, not really that much if you look at... But as great as Mahomes is in this dynasty, one of the things over the years has been covering big spreads with the Chiefs. They kind of let teams hang around. Yeah, but it's a brand new Chiefs.
2:02:32Pat McAfee:Remember, we talked about that. They isn't still the Chiefs because they're better. Are there stats on Mahomes versus Dan Quinn defenses? Because I felt like we didn't look at for the Ulbrich versus the Josh Allen primetime game. Maybe there's something there that might help us out. Yeah, that's not a bad... Actually, I would just like to hear Dan Quinn does good. Is that what you think? Yeah, basically. Just get some positive things. Yeah, something, something.
2:02:55Darius Butler:I can tell you this. Double-digit dogs on Monday Night Football are 27-9-1 against the spread since 2007. Wow.
2:03:04Pat McAfee:Uh-oh!
2:03:05Darius Butler:That's a long time.
2:03:07Pat McAfee:I don't know if I can make anything in this jacket. Yeah, it's going to be tough. Maybe I do a soccer. There you go. you ever do the flip throw oh yeah i i could do the flip throw really can you launch it that much farther when you do that so for me no i could i could throw it really far just by itself so i the flip throw though did help people that maybe didn't have the best throw to get a little bit more momentum and uh the people that had enough courage to do that knowing that their hands could slip and they could fall on their face right there i i respected that so yeah the flip throw was certainly something, but some people can really huck that thing.
2:03:43Pat McAfee:Yeah. Some people. We had a kid, Michael McDade. You remember him? Michael McDade could do a just regular soccer throw. Like, it's seemingly 50, 60 yards. Like, he would just be able to throw it. Long snappers should be really good at that.
2:03:56Darius Butler:He was like you, though. You guys were not built like soccer players.
2:03:59Pat McAfee:Yes, he was a dog. He... Three doors down. He could throw it like upper 90 from the sideline. Like, actually. like he would be able to play. That's a weapon. He played in Norway. He played professional soccer.
2:04:15Darius Butler:He played in Pitt and then Norway.
2:04:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, he played in Norway. Not a lot of flip throws anymore. I don't see that. Probably a couple broken necks. Did you ever see those? Do you know what those were? Flip throws? Yeah, I'm picturing it. Sweet. I can't stand on ball. Yeah, do one. Front handspring. Okay, yeah. Front handspring on ball. So you would go boom. Front handspring flip. And then as you're whipping up, obviously, It's like a catapult. Yeah. It's a full on. Jeez. Yeah, it's a lot of action. A lot of mo, though. Yeah, but it is. You're very rarely scored on. It was like a hope and a prayer, but boy, there was a big tanoo. Oh, yeah.
2:04:49Pat McAfee:It looked cool. When somebody was doing a front flip. He was doing that shit in games? Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. It was a pretty sick little time in soccer. I'm just picturing D-Bone doing that one. I don't think that's the right person to be thinking. I think he's built to do that. My partner. How did you, Bo? Hey, AJ, I heard you were playing some games. Heard you were rocking some rims. I played a few. Yeah, I almost tore my Achilles, and then it felt like that the next day. But, yeah, it was fun. I won a few, lost a few. It was good. Gave some, took more. Yeah, I understand. I get what you're talking about.
2:05:20Pat McAfee:You could feel your Achilles about to pop? Yeah, you know, I think I played maybe four or five games in a row. I was sweating bullets, like full-blown sweat driving home. You know, your sweat freezes to you the whole time. It is a good little workout. I think you should get two points for a dunk tip, one point for a lay-in tip. Yeah, because it helps him and all he does is dunk tip. I mean, he's just trying to rig the game for himself. Dunk it a thousand times. Yeah, I heard you're really rocking around. You should dunk it. Yeah, that's the name of the game, right? That's why you lower the hoop.
2:05:48Pat McAfee:No, U-ball is the name of the game. And the hoop is lowered because it's a state fair game. So we can dunk. So we can dunk tip. Agreed. Yeah, I mean, that's certainly a positive. But it's also gimmicky. I mean, it's a little ball. It's a different hoop. It's a gimmick. It's not just so we can dunk it. Now, granted. Well, it's not fun to tip the ball. You can leave it at 10 foot and I can get lay-in tips all day long. That's not fun. Yeah, it is. Slapping the board when you tip the ball is fun. Smackbacks were big. In seventh grade, I was my first Smackback. Smackbacks sound cool still. But on that note, it is lowered so dunking capabilities can happen.
2:06:25Pat McAfee:That wall, though, was built by us, basically. That wall that that hoop is on. Is it load-bearing? It's a good wall. It's got to be. I don't think so, buddy. That thing is just... Got so much rebar and concrete behind that brick. Maybe. I don't think so. Right on the other side of that wall, actually, is the gym, and then there's a golf simulator on the other side. So you and D-Bone really testing the limits of the contractors that were certainly in here, who did a great job. We're going to say that they did a great job. But every time D-Bone was wrecking that thing, I just thought of the entire thing coming down and really being problematic.
2:07:02Pat McAfee:Now, you shouldn't think that way. It's probably much more sturdy than I imagine. but I remember when this place didn't have that wall. And then I watched that thing kind of get built up. And just the thought of you guys just trying to shack that thing is a little scary. Yeah, just a little scary. But I appreciate your guys' intensity. I will say that. I appreciate your intensity, AJ. D-Bone had like 10 reverse dunk tips like behind his head. Like he's an athletic. Yeah. An athletic, yes. How's he doing jumping? Is he timing on his jumping good? I mean, you guys are just reffing him. I don't like how you guys reff him.
2:07:35I mean he had one I mean his elbow was at the top of the fucking box his elbow is up there but his foot is on the ground he's not to Wemby that's impossible
2:07:49Pat McAfee:Wemby's a real deal huh and then also Austin Reeves is the guy heard he won for 50 last night that's awesome Cooper Flagg right going crazy he had his moment he had a nice dunk I think that will catapult him to kind of. Zion Williamson? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Doing his thing? He's aah. Yeah. He's rocking rooms right now. They're doing it. Wemby blocked him 10 times, but they still won. I think Wemby's going to do that. Yeah. Yeah, that's Wemby football. So he went with the Monks and came back more aggressive? Yeah. Yeah, went Monks to KG. Yeah, he covered all the bases. Monks, KG, Hakeem. I mean. So that video of KG, Don.
2:08:28Pat McAfee:Exactly. Talking up to him? Mm-hmm. I didn't hear that. What's going on? I don't think that footage has actually been released yet. So you guys saying he went to KG, that was like a, hey, Wemby went and trained with KG? Yeah. That's what that photo was? Yes. Oh, he went from the monks to KG? Yes. What a genius, this guy. Oh, yeah. Wemby's always thinking 7D chess, isn't he, AJ? Yeah, he is. Yeah, and he's nine feet tall and he can block everybody's shot and he doesn't even have to jump to dunk from the three-point line. And he's got wiggle all of a sudden. Oh, yeah. He's got handles like, it's wild.
2:08:59Pat McAfee:What's the deal? Step backs, this guy. That's the crazy part of me. Blocking shots, okay. And even when he doesn't jump to block it, you anticipate him going up there. But him, this shit right here, just bringing the ball up, being able to handle the pull-up three, come on, man. Yeah, yeah. That's NBA 2K created player type shit. Usually guys that big can't fucking walk and chew gum at the same time. He's stepping back, dribbling, reverse dunking, no look passing. I mean, come on. SWAT team, dude. Full SWAT team. I just watched him swat those two shots back-to-back just waiting. He's literally just sitting there toying with people.
2:09:34Pat McAfee:Yep, and that one's mine. Let me hide under here. Yep, that's mine. Thank you for coming. And also, that's mine. Yeah, I mean, welcome to the SWAT team. Good for Wemby, good for basketball. Basketball needs a lot of good stuff to happen to him. It does. Yeah. Yes, it does. Tyrese Halliburton dunked. Here we go. Did you guys hit? Okay. He dunked. Tyrese Halliburton dunked. He's on his recovery of the Achilles, obviously, week 17. He and I huped himself. Still got a little soft. Oh, yeah.
2:10:00Darius Butler:He's going to drop that.
2:10:01Pat McAfee:Like they did that. Now, obviously, remember Jason Tatum showcasing his dunk and obviously a part of the process in his recovery. Jason Tatum a couple months ahead of Tyrese Halliburton, so he's literally chasing him. I think they used the same surgeon and everything, so kind of has a trail and a blueprint ahead of him. But obviously, that's good news. All right, NBA. Good luck. Good luck, NBA. Good luck, NBA. Good luck. Good luck. They did some great, great ball on the court, don't they? it. They're getting it early. They need some good highlights out there. They need everybody trying real hard.
2:10:32Go ahead. All the rookies are playing really, really well. Like genuinely, they've had stars. It was essentially just on the court, probably the best start to basketball in a long time.
2:10:43Pat McAfee:Just like baseball, turning it on, watching, captivated by what's going on and then sticking around. And then immediately after watching, I'm like, man, I wonder if people are still going to watch this because of everything that's going on. It's like, I think the product is good, but they certainly going to have to, you know, but now with what happened in Turkey, you hear about what happened in Turkey? So this is, it's soccer. A bunch of soccer people are corrupt. Well, AJ, AJ, the way you said that, I know what you were trying to do right there. I know. So you guys are telling me a bunch of soccer people are corrupt.
2:11:13Pat McAfee:That's what you just said right there. As if all I know of soccer is what I've watched and read about FIFA and all of that whole organization. And what have you learned about that? Just you get a world cup potentially if you, There seems to be some, I don't know, some backdoor deals, quid pro quo, is that what they call it? Even above that maybe in some questionable situations, building stadiums and such in different parts of the world. Now, on that note, boy, soccer, good sport. Yeah. Good sport. We're going to win the World Cup, but I'll tell you what, if the refs are on a take in that sport, you can just three-kick penalty, off sides, anything, just like basketball.
2:11:53Pat McAfee:Basketball, you can call anything. You can get a yellow card for a guy, really, if you want to early. You can – in soccer – I'm not saying all soccer is doing this. Can't say that. Can't think that way. Can't do that. But in these sports where, like, anything is a penalty, basically. You know? I mean, that's all. And only one guy knows how much time is left in the game, too. What's that? When you talk about referees, I mean, that's all sports. Yeah, because I guess holding every play in football. Holding.
2:12:17Darius Butler:Legendary coach Jose Mourinho was pounding the drum that the Turkish league was rigged when he coached there. Now he's out of there, but he was right.
2:12:26Pat McAfee:Jose Mourinho?
2:12:27Darius Butler:Yeah, legend. The special one.
2:12:29Pat McAfee:I heard Messi gave a sit-down interview on whether or not he's playing in the World Cup.
2:12:32Darius Butler:Yeah, it's going to be on NBC tonight, I believe. Was it like the decision? Yeah. Who do you sit down with?
2:12:40Pat McAfee:Chris Simms? Hopefully. No, I don't think it was Chris Simms. I don't think it was Florio either.
2:12:44Darius Butler:Might have been NBC News.
2:12:45Pat McAfee:I think it was Good Morning America or something.
2:12:48Darius Butler:He'll be out there. There's no way he's not playing.
2:12:51Pat McAfee:It might have been April.
2:12:53Darius Butler:Billy Bush. Terry Brescia. Terry's on fire.
2:12:56Pat McAfee:Billy Bush. Terry is on fire. Maybe he's announcing he's playing for America as Lou Messi. Oh, yeah. That's what we need.
2:13:04Darius Butler:Yeah. What was that guy selling, Terry? Corn oil? Pigs. Come on.
2:13:09Pat McAfee:Oh, pigs. I thought it was Coach Lee. CBS Sports Galazzo is reporting that Turkish football has been rocked by a massive betting scandal. A probe revealed that 371 of 571 active referees had betting accounts. That's a lot. and 152 of them were actively gambling. Good emoji usage there by CBS Sports Galazzo. That is something that'll make you blush. Wow.
2:13:28Darius Butler:They have 570 referees.
2:13:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, and 370 of them want to think about getting a little action, and 152 of them said, don't think about it. Let's do it, actually. That sounds like a problem they're going to have to figure out over there in Turkey. And I'll tell you what, I'm done betting on Turkey soccer. Me too. Fuck that. I am done. I don't like what they're doing. That's bullshit. AJ, we make a promise right now. We don't bet on Turkey soccer anymore. Okay, AJ? It's going to be tough. I won't bet on it anymore. I'm still going to watch it, every one of them, but I won't bet it anymore.
2:13:55Darius Butler:Unless it's Champions League. It's like Fenerbahce is playing in the Champions League. No, no, no, no. No, no. You saw the numbers. There's no Turkish refs in the Champions League. Oh, yeah.
2:14:06Pat McAfee:I'm sure they don't follow the team. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, right. I'm not betting on it. I'm done with it. Which sucks. I'm not even going to watch it, AJ. You're still going to watch the Turkish guys? Oh, yeah. I'll still consume it. I consume all of soccer. Don't get ridiculous now, Pat.
2:14:20Darius Butler:It's the MLS Cup right now, boys. Is G1 still happening? Yeah. Boy, is it.
2:14:25Pat McAfee:Where'd you guys play at? See that jacket you got on? Mexico City. Mexico City? Lando has taken the lead by one point. Oh, Lando. Mucho. He's taking the lead from his partner. Hey, he's bueno. He really is down there. Come down the stretch. Well, good luck to G1. And the MLS Cup is a real deal, brother. I saw last night Lou Messy was trying to bend it in from a corner. Almost made it. Classic Lou. Yeah, it's classic Lou.
2:14:53Darius Butler:I played last night. Cincy-Nashville tonight. It's a big one. Holy shit.
2:14:56Pat McAfee:They need to play these games on Tuesday.
2:14:58Darius Butler:This is all week. We got this. I would definitely be down on Tuesday. Tuesday, 1 o 'clock. Classic best of three series. No, not 1 o 'clock. We don't want to go.
2:15:06Pat McAfee:Matinee? Are you saying 1 a.m. or 1 p.m.? No, 1 p.m. I don't want to. How will we do the show? True. No one wants to show. What a stupid question. Watch it. Because I don't think anyone would watch it. That's kind of what I was getting at. Maybe just throw it on at like 1 p.m.
2:15:18Darius Butler:You got Sounders, Minnesota. Now that's a different story. I did not know the Sounders. Is it in Seattle? Okay. Is it in Seattle? It's in Minnesota. So that's going to be a primetime one. Needs to be because I will watch that.
2:15:30Pat McAfee:All right. So we'll keep up with everything going on. Who do Riverhounds got? Are we in this year or no? We were in it last year. They're in the U.S.
2:15:39Darius Butler:Open Cup, not the MLS Cup. They're playing golf now? What? What does that mean? What? That's not real. The U.S. Open Cup?
2:15:48Pat McAfee:They are good golfers. Oh.
2:15:50Darius Butler:Excuse me. They're in the playoffs. They're at home in the playoffs. Who do they got? I don't know.
2:15:57Pat McAfee:Now, just know this. The Plum Mustangs boys and girls soccer team in the playoffs, they're problematic. Hell, yeah. They are problematic. And then the Plum Mustangs football team, did you see? Did you see what happened? I did. What an awesome play. Yes, I did. Austin Kolinkowski taking that thing to the crib. I don't like how we just didn't block anybody for the field goal. We might need to get that figured out as we go into playoffs. But way to react, boys. Way to get it close in the fourth and take it home. Way to outfight, outscrap, outgrit the Penn Hills football team. What's their name?
2:16:29Darius Butler:Is it still the same? That was a question from me to you, brother. What was it? What for? What did it rhyme with? Schmindias. Okay, I figured. I thought that might have been the case. You can let that fly.
2:16:46Pat McAfee:The Penn Hills Indians are a notable good football team. Yeah, they are. They are a good football team. Very, very good. This one, Mustangs team, though, young, scrappy, young. It was on display there. A lot of tough one against USC. All for St. Clair. But we need to think about putting this guy every position. I think they're the Trojans. He's untackleable. He's Austin Kolodkowski. I love everything he's about. Did you see that other game that happened in Indiana, AJ? Yeah, Bodie Howe. Was that the quarterback, I believe? That was pretty amazing. Remember the name. Unbelievable that you pulled his name from that.
2:17:21Pat McAfee:Legit. Bodie Howe of Eastbrook is what we like to define, literally, as a problem on a football field. Okay? He gets the ball on his own 20. Runs all the way back to his own 11. Gets the edge on 61. He's given max effort with terrible angle there. He'll figure it out later in life, we assume. Alexandria needs the win to get to the playoffs. Eastbrook, undefeated season. Bodie Howell says we're not losing tonight. Glitching the camera. No glitch in the game. Bodie Howell. I mean, it's camera quality. There's a flag on the play. My high school tape. You have it? They now have a block in the back on Bodie Howell's team.
2:18:05Pat McAfee:One untimed down because it resulted in a touchdown. Bodie Howell throws it to the sky here in Indiana and it comes down. Touchdown! Eastbrook. Two tuds in a row that are improbable. An annexation of Puerto Rico, a Hail Mary, and then a two-point conversion across his body. It's a tie ball game with no time left in the game. Let's go to overtime. Can Alexandria answer? Of course, they scored a touchdown. Eastbrook's got to answer. Bodie Howell. no option toss to the crib. Are they going to go for two, try to steal this thing, not kick the extra point, go to double overtime? They are. That's Bodie Howell football.
2:18:47Pat McAfee:Give me it. Pitch guy wide open, never getting the ball. Bodie Howell's taking that one home. Welcome to the Bodie Howell show. Eastbrook maintains its undefeated season in Alexandria. I do believe missed the playoffs. Oh, no. I'm not 100 % sure, but I think. That's tough. That's good high school football there. Oh, yeah. Good little wing tee. That is good, yeah. And also no real angles or leverage. Just... The film session the next day. The glitch on the film even, on it. I mean, just everything about it was so high school right there for both those plays. Just like the most high school football of all time.
2:19:23Pat McAfee:Love that high school football is taking place. Huge weekend in Pittsburgh for football. Obviously hosting a Sunday night football game with the Packers coming to town. And them losing. Okay, fireworks. Ed, fireworks. Did you see the fireworks show? Oh, yeah. the answers are not taking it well. And I'm not 100 % sure if they're the only team that is responding the way that they are. And that's why we put out a tweet on Monday mornings. We say, hey, listen, we want to hear how you feel. We want to get the temperature of every fan base. And obviously, we don't have friends in every fan base. So we're going to utilize you guys to go ahead and explain your emotions on this overreaction Monday.
2:20:01Pat McAfee:Go ahead and tweet us. All you got to use is... Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But... This ended up being number two overall trend, I believe, which we are incredibly thankful that everybody participates. But also, we're very thankful that people utilize it as a therapy session and really let it out, AJ. I mean, some people really let it out on their teams. And I get a good enjoyment out of reading them because this is what's good about the sport. This is what's good about the sport. This one's from Nick Moraldo. He's a noted Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But we finally have an offense that can score actual points.
2:20:35Pat McAfee:But now, the vaunted steel curtain defense is a soulless, life-sucking money pit that can't run, tackle, cover, communicate, or seemingly function at a professional level in any capacity. Feels like nothing good coming from that defense. Let's go to the man himself. Nick, once you sent this tweet, did you feel better, and have you changed your opinion from that moment until now?
2:21:00Darius Butler:Opinion certainly has not changed. Thank you. You read that very well, and you put the emphasis on all the right syllables because that's how it felt typing that out. And watching that game last night, watching these guys just fall flat on their face with a 10-point lead and an opportunity to close out a game on national TV against a big-time opponent with all these great storylines with Aaron in the pack, and the defense just couldn't get it done. Couldn't tackle anybody. Couldn't cover. It's the same thing week after week. They get outgamed in every game. They give up these huge chunk plays, massive third downs.
2:21:30They just let them walk right down the field. It sucks.
2:21:33Pat McAfee:AJ, it might be because of the uniforms. Nick's not really talking about that. Yeah, I think I heard Tony say that. He's not able to tackle in those uniforms. I think if they would have had black pants, maybe, it would have been a little better on the eyes. I like the helmets. I like the matte yellow helmets. That's all right. I think the pants just really threw me for a loop, I guess. I think we're all pretty confused by them. And then the icy whites from Green Bay obviously look incredible. But this defense has been the talking point all season, basically, for Steelers fans.
2:21:59Darius Butler:Yeah, we're not enough people talking about that either. the Bengals and Packers all white back-to-back weeks. May there's an issue with that as well. Should that be illegal, you think? Maybe. This is the worst Steelers defense. I'm not just saying this. Statistically, it's come out today and last night since 1988, and that's 37 years because that was the year I was born. So if there's any accountability within this organization at all, heads will roll. Amen. Okay. You can't have the worst defense that an organization has had in 37 years and not change anything. With that much money. They're spending money on us.
2:22:37Darius Butler:Thank you, Connor. That is a great point that I forgot to say. They paid everyone. What are you changing? Week 9. Where does it start at? The top or the bottom?
2:22:46Pat McAfee:Oh, geez. This is our reaction Monday. We're certainly experiencing, especially with a primetime game and a good opponent. We've got all the pieces. We're supposed to go on a Super Bowl run. Why didn't it look like it? Is what Pittsburgh's saying. Let's go to another reaction, shall we? is from Josh Dorsey. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But, Sig and the boys put their Sigs out on UCLA's ass. Colts continue to roll and beat the Titans. According to Source, says, they're renaming the Tennessee Shaitans. Been since 2012 with the last running back MVP. JT, 25, MVP. Life is good in the state of Indiana.
2:23:21Pat McAfee:Amen, Josh Dorsey. And, Jonathan Taylor's special. This guy's so good. He's so good. The angle that we had from where we were sitting on the tightrope down the sideline. He was running away from us. It just didn't make any sense. Like, just physics didn't make sense with how big he is, how fast he is, how strong he is. Somebody's touching him, and him looking down and being able to keep his balance. He's special. This guy's really good, and his celebration is sick, AJ. His celebration's amazing. All I think of is his knees must feel so good. His patella tendons, everything feels great. Full speed, and then go into this little hop situation.
2:23:53He is awesome. His vision, his ability to jump cut and set up his blocks, it's wild watching this dude run. I think he's honestly only getting better as the year goes as well.
2:24:03Pat McAfee:And the offensive line only getting better seemingly as well. There's obviously huge holes. Now Jonathan Taylor will create those. Danny Dimes being a threat of a run, Connor reminded us also a huge piece of what they have to do in the box with Jonathan Taylor, but he's special to watch. The balance that they have on the offense, I think their first drive, Jonathan Taylor got the first run, and they went like seven passes and one run on that. So it's always – you can't really – you're always on your heels with this defense. But the top part of what Josh Dorsey, I believe his name, said, was talking about that blowout, that 50-6 ass-kicking of UCLA.
2:24:36I don't like that now, finally after UCLA gets their ass kicked, now we get to see the head coach. I didn't like that.
2:24:43Pat McAfee:Yeah. New eyes. No new eyes. That was bullshit. Hey, tear you in it all day, okay? It's like, all right, there we go. It's actually Coach Skipper. There he goes. He's got his ass kicked. Tim Skipper. Tim Skipper. and I would just like to say I appreciate that bro to his defense how about him just being cool with New Heisel kind of doing his entire thing like I think he showed incredible leadership just being like hey this is a thing in that and then as soon as they lose I'll tell you what is Tim Skipper that is that is kind of bullshit hey Tim you've done a great job over there they couldn't use Jerry's picture
2:25:15Darius Butler:because Sig put a cigarette literally out on his forehead
2:25:18Pat McAfee:which could have happened by the way I mean right before half he gives an interview and just breaks down a game I've got part of the time. It's pretty good. Our offense is pretty good. Defense is pretty good. Yeah, we're up 30. Yep. We've got to finish it up. Second half. Any other questions? Just walks away. 27 and a half point favorites. This is twice now at home where they should beat teams, and they don't just beat them. They fucking pound them. Same with the Colts. That's the state of their culture, I think. Same with the Colts as well. I said that on game day as my opening take, you know, because it's like each week what is the entire opening with a slate that doesn't have a lot of high-profile games.
2:25:53Pat McAfee:It's like you find out who's real. Like, I think your culture gets exposed in these low-profile games. Whenever your team could maybe kind of dip a little bit, or maybe they're big-time favorites and they don't live up to the hype, it's like you kind of expose who you are, I think, at these moments. Indiana has throttled people. I mean, just no questions asked. That's Signetti's culture, I think. And I'll tell you what, people in Indiana who are football people, which there obviously are a group of football people out here, love basketball as well and racing, but they love what's going on and sig couldn't be the more perfect person to lead this hoosiers team could not be the more perfect person for this state aj think about that's why they locked them up then they knew what they had and that's true like when you they were what 27 point favorites you said going into this game 27 and a half yeah like that's when you see some some great coaching when a team comes out and they do what they were supposed to do and they go annihilate a team that they felt like they had the upper hand going in like that's a that's another different form of coaching that you have to handle.
2:26:50How do you handle success? Now we're the big dogs here. They expect us to win. Oh, and we went out there and we put a stamp on it and we won by much more than what they even expected. That's not an easy thing to do. Human nature is to let down and not pay attention to all the little things. You can tell Sig is on those dudes every single day. Attention to detail, all of it. He has them rolling.
2:27:09Pat McAfee:That's talent evaluation too. I think the reason why Sig came out and talked all his shit early is because he said he felt obligated to with what he learned in the first eight hours about everybody's expectations of what Indiana is. But whenever he says, Google me, I win, I think that's because he had a lot of faith in his evaluation process in finding the right guys for the process. And it feels like he finds everybody with chips on their shoulder, kind of overlooked, and then he coaches the hell out of them. I think he coaches hard. I think he's a pretty accountability-driven coach out there.
2:27:36Pat McAfee:And he finds the guys that can take the coaching and get better and buy into the culture. He's done it back-to-back years now. We assume he's going to do it going forward. His eye for who's right for his program is spectacular.
2:27:48Darius Butler:And he has never changed. He's always been like that. I just saw an interview of him this weekend from IUP, which is D2 school in Pennsylvania. He's the same exact guy. But was this the Pepsi and milk game?
2:27:58Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah. Nate Bargetze? He was awesome. Oh, yeah. He was incredible. He's a special talent. Nate Bargetze is a special talent. You know, just like operating at a very high level. They call it the Harvard of the South. and he said, I didn't go to school here, but I certainly bear the fan trauma or whatever he said. But his intelligence radiates out of his brain whenever he starts talking.
2:28:23Darius Butler:Texas being number one.
2:28:25Pat McAfee:Texas is number one in the country, right? And I believe that. And pulled it off. That could sound very stupid or dumb. Pulled it off. Bargett's, he's a special town. I talked to him a little bit. He was in between shows. He was in Chicago on Friday night. He was doing Cincinnati on Saturday night, so he flew in to do that. Perfect. Which we are very, very thankful for him doing. Obviously, special. Kenny, Dirks, you name it. There was a lot of ass to perform because it was Nashville. So we sent out a lot of requests to a lot of people. Obviously, with everybody's gigs and schedules, trying to make it happen, including the band that was up there with Dirks and Kenny.
2:28:59Pat McAfee:It's like that whole band is a part of other bands and just kind of piecing it all together for the good of the show is sweet. But Bargetts, he told me the number of shows he's doing this year and they're all arenas it's like go do back-to-back nights congratulations Nate you did it he did it and he is his brain on display go ahead AJ I'm sorry I cut that out I saw him a couple months ago like and I think I've told people like saw him a couple months ago at the basketball arena here at Ohio State and he was unbelievable start to finish he was great and he sold out that arena the whole arena but then he's in the round so there's all there's probably 20 ,000 people in there he had a saturday and sunday night show both sold out and i was like man uh yeah i've known of his stuff i've seen his stuff i hadn't seen a stand-up yet live he was unbelievable from top to bottom special he's special he's like a special talent doesn't swear super super smart callbacks everything and his delivery he's not a nerd you know like sometimes super smart comics uh comics have a nerd delivery it's like nah he's a fucking genius This guy, expert level brain in this entire thing.
2:30:07Pat McAfee:I don't know how his picks did, but I appreciated that every single one of them. And then he was trying to recruit that five-star. Jared Curtis? Yeah. Is that what you're going to say, Connor? Yeah, when BYU, Iowa State came up, they got to him, and he just didn't give a fuck about the game. He went right to Jared Curtis. So he had Jared Curtis written down on his notes. He didn't have as many notes as everybody else. People have been showing up with notes since Timothee Chalamet. so timothy chalamet has kind of changed the way people feel about what they're allowed to do because timothy chalamet obviously came in prepared had notes was very and we were all appreciative of that i think a lot of these celebrities are like i can't have notes i got to go in there and act like i know what i'm doing and then they get up there and they see my shit it's like yo i got notes on all this we are living in this thing you should definitely take notes these are a lot of teams so like people have been coming up with notes and it's like very cool to see the prep that they put in jared curtis that kid's name was written real big just like right at the bottom only thing i saw like in big marker and i saw it like as soon as he sat down i was like good notes and then i heard him hit it uh first time jared curtis he's like he's here on a visit he could save my house he could do this entire thing and he moves on to the next one then he hits it again i look over at his sheet and i see jared curtis i point at it he goes oh yeah we need him it's like he feels uh he's like a part of the recruiting mission on there i appreciated that.
2:31:24Pat McAfee:Clark Lee, too. He was good. Three days a week fasting. Yeah, he seems like... He's pretty squared away. That guy's pretty disciplined. Very, very disciplined. Nate went 7-2. Is that what you said? Wow. Him and Jelly Roll, I think, are going to be tied. Jelly 6-2? Jelly went 8-2, maybe. We had 10 picks. Then he went 7-2. I don't know which ones... Pick Minnesota, too. Fucking layup, and he kind of just gave one away there. But didn't he say these are the same schools? He did, which he's also wrong about that. But that's okay. He's a fucking talent. He's a talent. I was lingering. They are. They are really lingering.
2:32:02I'll tell you what. Boy, that was a fun game to watch. I told these guys I feel like I got a pretty good beat on the P.J. Fleck tenure at Minnesota. Kind of know when, you know, hey, probably going to beat Nebraska here. And then, boy, did they just fucking lay an egg against the Hawks. Hawks, you know, had a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown. a punt return touchdown, and a pick six all in the first half. So it was a laugh for pretty early. It was an Iowa clinic. It was. It was. And you made the succinct point on game day, Pat, of Iowa's always lingering. You know, no one wants to believe in them.
2:32:35Hey, everybody thinks this team stinks. They don't score points. You know, they're going to win every game six to nothing. They're not. And, boy, do they got a big one in a couple weeks here with Oregon coming to Kinnick. And I'll tell you what, you win that one. You fucking pack your bags to whatever SEC school you're going to be traveling to for the playoff.
2:32:52Pat McAfee:Okay, so when is that game against Oregon? November 8th. Which is bye week this week, then you got that. Yeah, Oregon and Iowa both have bye's this week. Oh, two weeks to prepare for each other. And now it's just kind of waiting on, hey, what time is this game going to be at? Is it going to be a night game at Kinnick? Which they fare very well. Or, you know, do we maybe get one of those sleepy, cold, dreary afternoons and be at 9 o 'clock local start time for Oregon? We'll see. I don't know. Oregon's been able to handle that. I don't think they would be certainly worried. And Oregon is certainly a good team.
2:33:24Pat McAfee:You know who else is that never gets talked about? Your hair looks awesome, AJ. Just saw it from the side. Great fade. You're doing great things up there. The Ohio State Buckeyes never get talked about. I mean, never, ever. Number one team in the country, reigning national champs. Julian Sainz complete like 87 % of his passes or something like that. Everybody's so good. Their defense hasn't really given up a touchdown other than the Illinois game. That's literally the only team that's really scored on them. And nobody's even talking about plus 225 to win the national championship. there's 135 schools that are vying for the national they're plus 225 nobody's talking about them aj do you guys like that or not like that i like that i would assume the coaches and everyone else likes that as well the players can still you know like handle success how do you handle success and their expectations are so high the standard is so high which is a great thing they are the reason why the standard is that way but um yeah it's another different coaching challenge i think to try to keep your team dialed in and never let your foot off the gas but But, yeah, you don't really hear about it.
2:34:19I'm sure – I mean, I have Ohio bias. I live here or whatever. So, I don't hear it as much nationally. But it's true. Like, I don't – Julian's saying I don't think it's the pub he deserves. And I don't think the team really does either. But I think that's a great thing because we know, like, all that matters is the end of the season for Ohio State.
2:34:34Pat McAfee:What was this? Last year or two years ago, we didn't talk about Georgia on game day. We didn't talk about Georgia for the first six or seven weeks. And I – Georgia people are going to be surprised to hear this. i mentioned like are we gonna talk about georgia like georgia i feel like they're very good uh georgia season's coming is basically what they say in the entire college football world i think ohio state's in that same department like ohio state season's coming we're definitely gonna talk about them it's like well should we set the seed that they're very good everybody knows they're very good and i think that is kind of just like the national conversation it's like ohio state's really good who have they played well they knocked off texas well what's texas that's a good question How is Texas?
2:35:14Pat McAfee:What are they? And then you talk about the defense. They never give up any points. Yeah, but who have they? It's like there's always that. So I guess Ohio State season comes in a bit, but they're dominating people. Georgia won that year, right, in dominant fashion? Yes. And that was kind of the same thing in the NBA a few years ago. Well, a couple years ago with the Celtics. Yeah, nobody was kind of talking about had short odds, just like Ohio State. So history kind of tells us. That maybe they are dominating. Maybe this team is very good. And shout out to Ryan Day being able to continue to have success after getting to the mountaintop.
2:35:45Pat McAfee:Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? He's from Brandon. He's a craft handler. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But everything in Atlanta needs to go. Ownership, coaches, starters, and the most expensive backup ever. Just sell the whole package and bulldoze the dumbass stadium. Hawks and his stupid soccer team can leave too. Atlanta ruins sports teams. Fuck. All right, Brandon. That's a good stadium. I would not bulldoze that stadium.
2:36:09Darius Butler:That's a frustrating football team.
2:36:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Carolina Panthers, and then we're up. And then we get killed by the Dolphins. This guy has pink eye. He has a swollen eye, and he's wearing a visor, and he kills us. Tyree kills the only one on the team. They're going to quit. They're going to do this entire thing. They're coming into our house, beautiful stadium, and then they lose. Boom, that's frustrating. I can see how Falcons fans are a little upside down. You're going to be okay, Kraft Handler. Let's go to the next one here. This is from 69 here. Okay, no limit, Zay, 99. on that note before we go any further no limit one i believe okay as a uh as a person that grew up in that area you can take this down here for a second foxy as a person that grew up in that era uh i would like to say i completely forgot that snoop dogg was a member of no limit there for a bit as the versus was taking place this past weekend i got a chance to catch like the last 30 minutes or so of it 25 minutes or so i love the versus okay i'm a big fan through covet those Those are huge moments for us all to watch.
2:37:08Pat McAfee:I mean, it's a great, great thing. Cash Money taking on No Limit, massive piece of my life. So I was excited to get in there. Snoop Dogg showing up for Master P. Everybody showing up for Master P was certainly a thing. And then just the nostalgia of, I remember when every song that this group of people put out
2:37:27Darius Butler:was just hype as fuck.
2:37:30Pat McAfee:Oh yeah. Just here we go, we're going. And then Cash Money, Juvenile looked good. Still in game shape. Juvenile was working. I mean, he had to now. He had to carry a lot of the load over there with Birdman. Many fresh. Good to see him as well, by the way. I remember when they got, I mean, just that whole run, they took over every summer, basically, of our lives. So to see them back was good. I think no limit won, though. Dee Butch, your thoughts on watching the entire thing? A lot of people saying no wheezy. It's going to be tough to have Gash Money win that thing. I mean, Snoop coming in at the very end and then leaving, I mean, that was quite a moment in that versus.
2:38:03That was kind of like a game seven moment, I think, Going into it, you saw, okay, Cash Money, too many hits over the decades. Still pretty revelant in today's music. So it'll probably be a sweep, maybe a gentleman sweep. And then as it kind of got going on, later in the game, No Limit kind of came along. Then once Snoop came in, and then they played a Lil Wayne verse on a milli without Lil Wayne being there. I think that kind of took some wind out of their cells. Juvie did show up. I think him and Mia X was the MVPs of the night. But it was a great little flashback right there for the old heads.
2:38:34It was great.
2:38:35Pat McAfee:I had a great time. I was just looking at my phone. Just staring at my phone. Oh, I forgot about it. And I also did not remember that Snoop was on that song. I've heard that song a thousand times. So many stadiums. I can't sing the song. It'd be fun to be able to karaoke. But you just can't do it. Fudge them up. Can't. Can't even. I mean, that's a massive piece of the entire... It is the whole song. And then you're with... Because they're not yours. an horse. You know, it's not really. But I could certainly... You had to be, you had to know exactly where you were, whatever venue that you were at, you had to be, you know, with your people.
2:39:18Pat McAfee:What's that? Yeah, at that time? Yeah. With that song? Yeah, there's not a fighting to a lot of these songs. Wasn't a bunch of phones out during that time. No, there was not. It got fighting at some point, but most times it was just some... I don't know. It was our version of Mosh Pit. It used to be much more hype of a society, I think, you know? Yeah. I watch nba uh young boy is that his arena shows yeah it's like the young kids version like lil wayne i'm watching it yeah and i'm like okay so there is still okay we still got that going on and some arenas nowadays like nope that's not going on we're not doing that i like to see that type of now obviously uh the motivating music is how i view it is going to be different for the modern age than it is for us as old us old ass people now you know like we're not going to listen to their generation in the same way because they've lived a completely different life than us.
2:40:08Pat McAfee:That's why that versus is so cool. Like just going back in time, basically. That's why when I talked to Carson Daly, I met him the other week. I was like, man, so reminiscent of a different time when everything was kind of banging. But only the bangers survived, which is why that versus is good. Who's up next for that? No clue. Complex bought it. That's a good play. It was a complex versus. They're all up on stage. Big crowd. Manny Freshman, we got to get out of here in seven minutes. That's the thing. I felt like it could have went on for another hour, number one. And then the location. Even that tweet, I think they said Louisiana.
2:40:41Both of these groups were from Louisiana and New Orleans area. So you would think having the crowd there, because the crowd sucked. The crowd absolutely sucked. It was in Vegas. Young people probably don't know a lot of the songs. There were kind of some album cuts. But it was a great flashback, a great time while some football was on. I was tweeting some things. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? Football's on right now.
2:41:01Pat McAfee:It was your tweet that I saw. I think you said Juvies and Game Shaper or something like that. And I was like, Juvie? Juvenile? Oh, shit. And then I go, I couldn't find it. Had to go to their Instagram to find the live thing. I'm like, boom, let me get in there. As soon as I get in there, Manny Fresh is walking around. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, and I didn't even know all the drama that was potentially about to unfold on who's there, who's not there, and all of it. I mean, obviously, that is the shout-out first. All right, let's move on. No Limits Zay, 99. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But the state of Louisiana football is in shambles right now.
2:41:33Pat McAfee:Brian Kelly summer sausage looking ass out of here. Kellen Moore's strong head ass just got here. And we are about ready to throw his ass out the club. Football gods help us. All we have is YB and LSU women b-ball. All right, well, enjoy it all, Zay. Enjoy it all down there. I love that. I love that there's a little Louisiana accent in the tweet, dude. Yeah. Yeah, bow. Head ass. Looking ass. Get him the fuck out of our town. Kelly Moe's in trouble down there. Yeah. I've seen Shuck a little yesterday. Uh-oh. He's starting going forward, right? Yeah. Boy, I hope not. Oh, you already said that? I believe they did make that decision.
2:42:18Pat McAfee:That's not right. The thought of you want Rattler to give him a little bit more opportunity? I just don't want Shuck to get his head taken off. I mean, whatever. I mean, they're one in seven with Rattler. I personally think he's kind of sweet. I'm worried Shuck is going to be looking left and someone's going to be coming right, just based off what I saw yesterday. Yeah, I understand that there's a chance that team's not going to be good for a bit. Wasn't that the expectation going in, though, that they weren't going to be good, right? Longest odds. I don't think a whole lot of people gave him much of a chance heading into the season.
2:42:47So, yeah, it's not a shock, is it?
2:42:49Pat McAfee:I don't know. It sounds like Zay said, I don't care how bad they're supposed to be. It's worse than he could have imagined. Yeah, and unfortunately, they kind of put all their chips in. They're like, well, whatever. We'll have the worst record in the NFL, and we'll draft Arch. number one overall next year. He'll be starting here like his grandpa did, and now that's kind of down the pooper, too. You know, not good. Let Taysom Hill spin it. I mean, what are we doing? Now is the time to be like, you know what? Fuck it. Put Taysom Hill. That's tough. I mean, that's like what Max Crosby did to Mac Jones.
2:43:18Pat McAfee:All right, let's move along. Sorry, Zay. He's on Team No Limit as well, it appeared. At Joshfather, 0017, you know, like Godfather. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. but Bill's dropping a 40-burger on the Panthers don't mean shit. A.O. probably out for the year. Allen doesn't look good, and Cook is our savior, but didn't touch the ball in the last 12 minutes of the game versus the Falcons. We're losing by 50 this week. What? They play the Chiefs. What? Why did you pick this one? This was the top one. There really weren't too many. This is the top one? It was. I came back and saw this one multiple times.
2:43:53I don't know if people kind of just acted like the Panthers suck, so that doesn't matter at all. but I saw a lot of this. I just kept coming back to this. Wow, they're not happy with the Panthers' performance, and they got the Chiefs.
2:44:06Pat McAfee:40-9. I know. What more can you ask for? 40-9. That's overreaction Monday, AJ. These people know whether or not they can win a Super Bowl. Let's go to the next one, shall we? This one's from Caleb. He's a Broncos fan, Caleb. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Denver Broncos are four points away from 8-0. We run the AFC West this year. Bo motherfucking Knicks is a dog. The defense is special. Just give us the Lombardi already. I like to hear that out of a fan base. I like to hear that out of a fan base. Now, we are one of their losses, the Colts, so let's assume that we would have got one more point than you regardless.
2:44:40Pat McAfee:But I do like that this Broncos team is exactly what people were expecting out of them coming into the year, AJ. Yeah, I mean, I think it's good. Do you trust Bo Nix to lead him on a run down, you know, through the playoffs? Can he take him to the Super Bowl, you think? I like Bo. What are you saying? I do, too. I do, too. I do. I don't think everybody does for some reason. When I hear people talk about him, I don't think they fully trust him. I do. I think the dude's awesome. There's a reason. He had a million reps in college. He's played for a long time. I put a lot into that, I think, the fact that he has seen a lot in college.
2:45:10And he's with Sean Payton, honestly. We can say a million times, their defense is legit. If you have a defense that is able to play at such an elite level, I think you always have a chance.
2:45:20Pat McAfee:Did somebody get hurt on defense? Denver? Sertan. Sertan.
2:45:24Darius Butler:Sertan's shoulder. He missed the second half.
2:45:29Pat McAfee:Okay, so obviously we should have asked Schefter about that. I love those unis too. Yeah, those are good throwback units. Those are good throwbacks. I like the Broncos fans are happy and Cowboys fans. What are they? What are the Cowboys? Mediocre. They need a pass rusher. They need a lot on defense. Trevon Diggs, IR. That kind of snuck in the wire on Saturday. What was that about? I'm not sure. Yeah, so we don't know. Yeah, there's been a lot of talk around that. All right, let's go to the next overreaction. This is from BryceDean14. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the birds are back, bitch.
2:46:02Pat McAfee:Sirianni and Patoa still suck, but Saquon Barkley is running wild. Tank to Tank Bigsby ready to come in and lighten the load. Jalen Herbst, MVP level the past two weeks, and the Cowboys suck. Life couldn't get better, brother. All right, head coach and offense coordinator. Don't know shit, but everybody else is good, including the offense. That's awesome. I appreciate that out of Philly fans. Do you think they'll ever come around on Sirianni, or some people will ever come around on Sirianni, AJ? I mean, they'll come around like every time he wins a Super Bowl, and then the second he loses a game, they'll be back out.
2:46:32Even their winning games.
2:46:33Pat McAfee:They're even winning games. Yeah, you're right. It's just the way it goes, I guess. Petullo going under center, D-Butch. This is what everybody said they needed to do. They do it. They have success. Why don't they love them? Yeah, mixing it up. Look, Petullo, he just got to keep his blinders on, keep calling games. And will the people against Nick come around? Probably not. Maybe after a three-peat, but they've been in two of the last four Super Bowls fresh off of one right now. So, yeah, once Barkley gets rolling, I think Eagles fans want to see that, obviously, and then the passing game going as well.
2:47:01I think they'll be happy.
2:47:02Pat McAfee:What were they calling Patolo a couple weeks back? Kevin, you blow at calling plays. Oh, you blow at calling plays. That was rude. Yeah, ridiculous. I didn't like that one bit. Sounds like they're still not completely sold. I'm just going to have the next ever reaction. It's from Chop LaRue. Hashtag I don't want to ever react, but there's actually nothing to react to. The Dallas Cowboys have been letting me down for 35 years That there is just numbness Alright, sorry to hear that, Chop LaRue Sorry, Chop He's desensitized to the suck Oh man, just last week too Coming off a big win We're going to trade for Max Crosby Or Trey Hendrickson And then they just get absolutely fucking shite stomped And now there's just no hope anymore Now they're numb Let's go to Barendir At Barendir hashtag I don't want to overreact but Lamar is coming back Thursday and it's belt to ass for Miami.
2:47:53Pat McAfee:Ravens run the table, we'll win the North. We're all the way back, baby. It's still hashtag fire horrible season after that. So there's been a trend here. Seems like there's a trend. Seems like there's a trend. Yeah, we win. We'd like that. But also, don't love at all what this guy's doing as the head coach of this entire thing. Are fans ever going to be happy from what you're reading there, Ty? No, and I think now, especially with what's going on in college football, I think it's just amplified. There's always some of this a little bit, but people are saying, well, fuck it. We can just fire a coach right now.
2:48:24Who cares? We'll find someone who's better. That's the way it goes.
2:48:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I don't know where all those coaches exist, but hopefully they'll find them. And here's the last one. This is from AJ Dahlmeyer at TheAge 55. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but Tucker Craft is the best tight end in the league. National Tight End Day, and this man put the tight ends on his back. Death, taxes, Tucker Craft, yak. Packers bringing home the Super Bowl. Oh, and hey, AP voters, rank the Hawkeyes, you cowards. Hashtag yak god. Hashtag go pack go. And that appears to be Tucker Craft having a good old time in a car. So this is your burner? No, this is not my burner. I just said, you know what?
2:49:00This guy's making some very salient points. I think this should probably be in there.
2:49:04Pat McAfee:Tucker Craft's a B. Shout out to all the overreactions. We appreciate you guys. I love Tucker Craft, man. So good. Love that face mask, too. The triple thing on the side? Oh, does he have the triple T? Yeah, he's got real moxie. So much swag. And he's impossible to tackle. AJ, what are you doing? You got to go saw the knees out, but he might knee you in the head. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no easy way to get this guy down. He's a big old dude as well. Helmet is awesome. Helmet is good. Look at Jordan's. That's cleats. Yeah, he's clean. Tucker Craft's got the moxie, the swag, the durability, the gritty.
2:49:38They had no chance of those jerseys.
2:49:40Pat McAfee:I agree. Just coming out of the locker room. Yeah, they went in halftime. I think a couple of them just probably walked past the mirror. I couldn't have what the fuck am I doing? Oh, jeez. Shit. They shot themselves. We're done tackling. We're done doing anything. We're not wearing these. They put us out in public like this. This is unbelievable. Aaron, new helmet there, right? This is a new helmet for him?
2:50:01Darius Butler:I don't know. I was looking at that. Is it different? I know the black pads inside make it look weird. Yeah, he switched helmets for the Bengals game. So maybe go back. I know they made him. They made him transition out of an old school helmet. Aaron's been awesome. None of it's Aaron's fault. But, you know, if it's not broke.
2:50:17Pat McAfee:I did like Chris Collinsworth talking about how Aaron has been – Aaron was pretty proud of the mobility in extending the play because they had the time from snap to throw and then the time from snap to throw the last couple weeks. And Aaron's been able to extend the plays like he was back in the day. So it has been fun to watch him do his thing for this Pittsburgh Steelers team. Vastly different than what we think of the Steelers team. Offense doing well, defense doing ass.
2:50:43Darius Butler:Yeah, before the season, if I would have said, hey, there's a weakness, it would have been the offense, and that has not been the case, and Aaron's been awesome. So, you know, shout out him. Shout out DK. He's been great. But, yeah, the defense just sucks. I love how pissed off Aaron gets, too. Yeah. The best. I love it.
2:50:58Pat McAfee:What did he call someone last night? I think he said cop stutter. Okay. Like something around like cop stuttering, I think. He's always angry. When you're going to cop something, like steal something, and then you slow down. So you stutter in the copping of something. I think he said, you cop stuttered. Yeah, he said you cop stuttered. Gotcha. He can't be doing that, obviously. That's crazy. They even ran slow-mo going into commercial of him saying that a couple times. A couple times him talking about the stuttering around there. Why do you think Aaron feels about it all? Honestly, what are your thoughts?
2:51:30I think he looks like he physically feels great, like how he is moving. I think every week he feels like it looks like he's moving a little bit better and better, and his arm is very live. I don't know. I honestly would bet that he's sitting there thinking like, hey, it's a long season. I'm not going to ride the roller coaster of ups and downs. I think he has trust in the defense. He knows they'll figure it out probably when it matters.
2:51:49Pat McAfee:And, yeah, I think he's proven a lot of people wrong with how he's playing. Yeah. But also, life would be a lot better if we're winning. You know, life's a lot better when we're winning. The amount of passion. We talk about his reaction in saying, talking about the stuttering of the copying of stuff. He's all in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is. there's no lack of disinterest or anything like that for him. It feels like he is very, very, very, very dialed in. Absolutely. Fully invested. He came into the season at least saying this would be his last year. I don't know where he stands on that now, but you talk about how he feels.
2:52:24I want to know how Cam Hayward and T.J. Watt and those boys over there feel because it's got to be a tough Monday sitting back and watching this tape and obviously having those hard conversations with each other. But you think you have the talent in that room. Guys are already making that money. It's a lot of established vets who have played a ton of downs, so it's not like you're depending on young kids to try to figure it out and play a role. So I'm interested to see how that unit and that leadership turns around that side of the ball.
2:52:49Darius Butler:It's funny you said that. Kim actually said there's a lack of buy-in and heart on the defensive side. That's very concerning. What? Mid-season at this point. A lack of buy-in and heart on his defense? Is that what the scheme you think? What is that? Does that mean with the scheme or what is that?
2:53:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, like people aren't buying into the scheme or the culture. I mean, this game's been a scheme for 40 fucking years at this point. Julian Edmundson knows what they're doing. Yeah.
2:53:12Darius Butler:Everybody does. It's funny. The defense coordinator, everywhere he's been, the defense got worse.
2:53:18Pat McAfee:Sounds like we know who Tern's not happy with. Jeez. And on that note, that's overreaction Monday. Good luck tonight, AJ, with your Kansas City Chiefs minus 10. 10. They can do it. D-Bot said it's probably a three-score game. They're going to win by three scores. If it continues the trend of this week for the NFL season, yeah, there's a chance that's going to be. That place is going to be so loud. Imagine tonight after the anthem, how loud that's going to be. It's a very intimidating place to play. Marcus Marietta is going to say, for me. Yeah, exactly. He is awesome. I do like Marietta. I'm down one on AJ, so obviously I have to pick the opposite of what he picks in this particular case.
2:53:52Pat McAfee:So, give me these commanders. Let's go, boys. Let's fucking go, boys. Nobody thinks we're going to be able to do this. Nobody. They're better than they've ever been on that other side. Taylor Swift's going to be there. Joe Buck's going to be on the call. Dan Orlovsky traveled out to an RV. Yeah. Just to do NFL Live. It's a big night. Everybody's there for the Patrick Mahomes show. I will tell you, Commander, I am excited to watch that as well. Oh, yeah. But need you guys to keep this thing close. Maybe win. Fuck it. Maybe. I mean, Schefter said it. Mariotta's already won a playoff game in Arrowhead.
2:54:28It's not going to be louder tonight than it was when they put in the playoff.
2:54:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're right. Against Alex Smith. That's true. Come on. In a home of the cheese. And all you think is cheese. They're everywhere.
2:54:46Darius Butler:Super Bowl favorites, MVP favorite.
2:54:47Pat McAfee:How could they lose? Who's banging drum?
2:54:50Darius Butler:Great question. Rob Riggle. Is he? No, I think it's Rob Riggle. Or the guy from, what was the show? Eric Stonestreet. A little respect, you piece of shit. There you go. Or J-Sug. J-Sug. J-Sug. Paul Rudd. Yeah. A lot of them. Melissa Etheridge.
2:55:05Pat McAfee:Who's whammy anchorman. Oh, David Koechner. I believe he's a Kansas City guy. Yeah, yeah. What if David Koechner's on the drum tonight? You guys would be mom, boy. Bad news. Bad news for the commanders. It's Chiefs Hall of Famer Christian Okoye. Oh, he's going to be the Nigerian nightmare. You mean the Nigerian is correct, yeah. Wow. I don't like that one bit on my commanders. Can I stay alive, right? Or no? Change them. I've dehydrated myself pretty good. Sweat jackets. Yeah, it's been pretty. Shout out to NFL Mexico. Muchos gracias, Mimigas, honestly. It's a cool jacket. I saw you speaking Spanish on my timeline.
2:55:47Pat McAfee:Zito, we'll work on that dubbing. You know who this is for? Mariotta. Mexico? Oh, yeah. I don't know. Both of them? I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that goes. We're going to stay out of any international waters on the chart. This one's for the commanders. Okay. Come on now. Plus 10.5. Correct. It's a low rim. It's probably harder. Too easy. Don't overshoot it. Don't overshoot it. I think if you were to think about this shot, I got take It's 24 inches off this because it's down at 8 feet. It was up at 24 inches, so I should turn my elbow in a little bit tighter.
2:56:39Darius Butler:Smart. At that distance, the Coriolis effect comes in, too. Yeah. You're in elevated position, too, on the stage.
2:56:46Pat McAfee:All at altitude and at altitude. Right. Yes. You know what I mean? Double.
2:56:52Darius Butler:Windage. Yeah.
2:56:53Pat McAfee:There's no wind in here. Thank God. Needed it a little bit again. I was looking for a breeze when I had that thing on. Sure. Anywhere, can I find some air? All right, so this one's commanders plus ten and a half. Okay. Okay. Maybe Mexico. Good adjustment. Right there. Oh, a little too much. Hand in the hoop. That was a little strong. That was it. Yep. Bucket. Nice. That went in. No lie. Yeah. Should have went a little stronger.
2:57:24Darius Butler:That really was the perfect parabola. You shoot the wrong size ball. That hoop's only used to small balls. There it is. Calibrated. Too far. Oh, jeez. Eight-foot hoop. It's hard.
2:57:41Pat McAfee:We are commanders.
2:57:46Oh, no. Command's freaking these shit. I didn't like it from the very beginning.
2:57:53Pat McAfee:You guys heard me. I didn't like it at all.
2:57:55Darius Butler:It's true. Yeah, I like what you're doing. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's a U-ball hoop. That's not a basketball hoop. The ball that's meant for that hoop. Finish off the shite slate. Get D-bone to do a 360 dunk or something on that eight-footer. From the free throw line?
2:58:11Pat McAfee:You're asking for Achilles. Yeah. That might take the wall down. D-bone heard that. He's going to try to do that today. And when this wall falls exactly, D-bone, that's on you, AJ. Yep. Okay? The whole brick wall. That's coming out of your room. I mean, it's not going to be from the rim, though. The whole brick wall falls on it. Just hope his body doesn't make a mess. All right. So this one is at. This one is... This one is actually... Here we go, guys. Yeah, tuck the elbow. There it is, yeah.
2:58:42Oh, shit. It's the elevated push. That's all. That's just the elevator. You didn't cock your elbow enough on the first one. Oh, yeah! See? Lock it and load it. Good line. I don't feel good about any of it tonight. All right. Throw a football. I might as well punt. Yeah, you might as well. Yeah, there you go. It's a hut. Here it is. Got it. Oh, that's pretty good.
2:59:13Darius Butler:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Right on line. That was bad. Okay.
2:59:22Pat McAfee:This one's for the commanders. This one's for, yep. This one's for all the marbles. Okay. Yep. I'm changing my pick. I didn't like it one bit Commanders minus three Chiefs Chiefs minus 17 and a half You all spread it? 16 and a half Be a friend, tell a friend something else Might change your life That was poor performance I don't like it It's an 8 foot hoop That's what I'm saying though I gotta be able to mentally adjust to that I gotta be able to change It's a cemetery just misses failures everywhere. But you know what? We will, and we'll be back tomorrow to overreact to what happens tonight as the Washington Commanders keep it close.
3:00:16Pat McAfee:Maybe even win. There's a chance. Against the Kansas City Chiefs. Alright, AJ, you're the man. We love you, buddy. Thank you guys. Love you guys. Thank you for speaking about Nick. So, I know it's not easy, but I I think it's good for people to hear, you know. So I appreciate you doing that. And I know we only planned for a little bit of time. I should have. I appreciate you doing it. Just know that we all fucking love you and all his family and friends, dude. We are so sorry that that happened, okay? Appreciate it. Yeah, man, thank you. Yeah, Nick had a gigantic impact on legit so many people.
3:00:48Like that's hopefully, I think, very, very positive influence on everyone. Even people that don't know him. So that's what I love seeing through all this. All the terribleness. Like you see the impact he did have on people. It's awesome. I got to see it firsthand.
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On today's show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 8 of the NFL including the schedule being pretty awful all day, the Colts routing the Titans to go to 7-1, the Packers going into Pittsburgh and beating Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, go through some overreactions from the internet and everything else noteworthy around the league before previewing tonight’s Commanders vs Chiefs Monday Night Football game. Joining the progrum to give his biggest takeaway’s from Sunday, some injury updates, and to preview tonight’s Monday Night Football games is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, 12 year NFL veteran, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky joins the progrum to chat about what he was most impressed with this weekend, the QB play around the league, a check in on the Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, and his thoughts on tonight’s Monday Night Football game. Later, fresh off a massive win over Oklahoma this weekend, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin joins the show to chat about this weekend’s win, Pat not picking Ole Miss, the rumors about him leaving for any one of these high profile job openings, the mindset they need to play with each week, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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