PMS 2.0 1440 - Watt Wednesday, Peter Schrager, Kenny Chesney, Stanford Steve, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, & AJ Hawk

18:25Pat McAfee:Did that take you back a little bit, standing on that bench in Houston, doing the whole thing? Did that take you back right there?

18:31JJ Watt:I think that was against the Colts. I think that might have been against the Colts.

18:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, every time. Yeah, it felt like it was every time against Colts. You were everywhere, brother. And obviously, that is why so many people have respect for you and also why people think you could still get back in the game. We just saw a four-years,$141 million guarantee. Does that make you think about getting under the squat rack a little differently than you have been as a commentator? And what are your thoughts on Aiden Hutchinson getting paid? A little bit total, less than Micah, above TJ and Miles, but the most guarantee for a non-quarterback in the history of the NFL. Your thought on the deal and how Detroit got to this with Aiden.

19:08JJ Watt:Great. Beautiful. Well-deserved. A guy who does it, plays extremely well, run and pass, impacts the game completely, and also is that perfect fit there in Detroit for everything. Just the mentality, obviously playing at Michigan and the whole gambit. So very rare in my, at least in my memory, to see such a big deal get done in the middle of a season like that. but very happy to see that he is locked in with the Detroit Lions for a long time because he's perfect for them, they're perfect for him, and he's a phenomenal player.

19:41Pat McAfee:Here's some stats from Hembo on Aiden Hutchinson. He's amassed 29 quarterback pressures this season. That's his second most in the NFL behind Michael Parsons, who has 33. He's become the money-time Micah over there with the Green Bay Packers. Four forced fumbles is tied with Joey Bauer, Nick Bosa. Joey Bosa, sorry, for this season. Aiden Hutchinson has played 93 % of the line snaps this season. Okay, that's the highest rate among defensive linemen. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's Max? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Excuse me? I was told. No, I watched it. Max played the Indianapolis Colts, and we were up a lot.

20:10Pat McAfee:He was still out there. His shoes were so cool. Oh, he got injured. Okay, okay. We're talking about an injury. We apologize, Max. That's 100 % on us. We are very confused. We thought Hembo got it wrong. That is not about you, Max. That is 100 % on what we thought about Hembo. Hutchinson is the third favorite to win defense player of the year this year. Obviously, that's what sportsbooks have him. Shout out to Hembo for that. Pressures, you know, as a stat. Big deal for a defensive end. Obviously, 29 quarterback pressures this season. What does that signify, the pressure stat, you think, Jage?

20:38JJ Watt:I mean, you know my thoughts on pressures. We do not have consensus on what a pressure is yet.

20:50Pat McAfee:Oh, this goes back to PFF ranking and what's what. No, this goes to everybody.

20:56JJ Watt:You could take pressures from four different websites, and they're going to be four vastly different numbers. Some are doing it by proximity to the quarterback. There's all sorts of little things, but they're all different. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't use pressures on our broadcasts. I don't bring up those numbers because I don't think they're there yet. I do think there will be a point where we get there, but I'm still a hard-stacks guy. I like sacks. I like quarterback hits. I like pressure. I don't like pressure. Oh! Oh! I like PBUs. I like things that you can actually see what happens, and it's a real, actual action.

21:36Pat McAfee:You understand, Aiden Hutchinson's hand is incredible. A lot of forced fumbles. Obviously, that against Derrick Henry was, what, fourth quarter? That was a really nice thing. Huge play. Huge, huge to do it all. Congrats, Aiden Hutchinson, and the quarterback-hating community as a whole. We're incredibly happy for you guys. All right, Jage, let's talk a little bit about what you have coming up. Another Steelers game, huh? You're on the call for it against who? Who is Steelers playing this weekend?

21:57JJ Watt:I got Colts Steelers, baby. It's going to be a good one.

22:00Pat McAfee:Okay, so you got a lot of familiarity with both these teams. That's good news for your preparation going in. Congratulations on that. How do you think this game goes? It's in Pittsburgh. Obviously, the Indianapolis Colts right now are a wagon. I mean, we're showing up doing exactly what we're supposed to do every single time. Unreal is right, especially as a Colts fan. It doesn't feel real with how good this team is, especially Titans. 14.5-point favorites. That could be one that could get close. That's one that could linger a little bit, a little bit of anxiety late. Like maybe Cam Ward, who is a dog, by the way, watching him live was very impressive.

22:32Pat McAfee:Maybe we give that away. We pound him. That's just what we've been doing. And obviously the Rams are our only loss. Probably should have won that game if we go back, but a lot of learning lessons through it all. And then the Steelers are in the middle of an interesting dynamic where they're going all in for a Super Bowl roster-wise, doing things that they haven't done before in the offseason, and their fans are saying, this is the same old bullshit. So what are you, Jage? How do you kind of, how do you view the matchup going in? Very different vibes for teams, I would say.

22:59JJ Watt:I would say very different vibes right now and very different vibes in Pittsburgh just from a couple weeks ago where they had a chance to potentially put a stronghold on the division. And you think back to that moment to where we are today and what that division looks like, especially if the Ravens get a win on Thursday night, the vibes are just completely different over the course of a couple weeks. But from the Colts standpoint, like I'm just as more and I was going through the film again. And if you just look at it from a defensive coordinator's standpoint, and you're like, all right, how am I going to break this down for my guys and make it easy for them to understand so we can stop this offense?

23:34JJ Watt:You are just drinking through a fire hose, man. They run all different motions. They run their playbook out of shotgun, or they run it out of under center. They run it out of condensed formations, or they spread it out. They can run the ball with Jonathan Taylor, or they can run an RPO that looks exactly the same and slip the ball in behind to Pittman. They have Alec Pierce who can run down the field and run these different routes and go up and catch the ball. They have Tyler Warren who they can scheme completely wide open so that he can just catch the ball and run, or he can make tough contested catches.

24:03JJ Watt:There is just a million different ways. And then, oh yeah, to top it all off, their offensive line can block for 15 seconds and give Danny Dimes all day long to protect. Like, you look for tendencies, you look for tips, you look for all these different things in an offense to find an advantage. and Shane Steichen just keeps you on edge at all times because there's just no way to know what they're going to do and they can do it out of anything. They're very, very well-run operation.

24:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, and our defense, obviously, we got a couple situations, but hopefully Moody will be back soon after the pregame concussion. That just can't be happening, obviously. Lou Anarumo's defense has obviously added a spark for us as well, but with what Jonathan Taylor's doing and what that offensive line's doing, that makes Danny Dimes' life a lot easier, obviously, but he doesn't miss this guy. Danny Dimes doesn't miss. We're watching. It's like every throw seemingly the right place. And if it's a miss, it was on purpose. Like every other ball is like catchable, if that makes sense, JJ.

25:00JJ Watt:Yeah, and I absolutely agree. And he's the perfect guy for that because he's going to go through the progression. He sees exactly what's open. He's going to deliver it. But you watch even just some of these clips, like guys are wide open. Like there are some good contested catches. I think this one to Warren is a good contested catch. but there are some guys that are just nobody within 20 yards because they do such an incredible job and you have to respect the run so well that then it puts you in a blender when it comes to the pass game and then if you do throw a contested one oh yeah michael pittman's just going to make just the most insane weird catch of all time yeah like yeah it's they got it going and then you go against the steelers who pucker craft has 143 yards two tuds jamar chase a couple weeks ago goes for whatever, 700 catches.

25:45JJ Watt:Oh, no. Here's some Hembo stats against the Steelers.

25:49Pat McAfee:Defense the last two weeks, 22 drives, 49 first downs. What? Seven touchdowns, six field goals. Six punts, not bad. Three punts per game. A couple sacks, zero turnovers. And then Hembo asked that question at the bottom, Diggs. I don't like it. Whoa! The Colts go vaporize this table. What? And on that note, Colts, you guys suck. Okay? I told Danny Dimes that yesterday. I need to let this Colts offense know. You guys are disgusting. to watch. I'm thinking about refunding my tickets like I was last year because I'm tired of watching the Suns. On that note, boy, it'd be great to get a winner of the Steelers.

26:20Pat McAfee:Every time I played the Steelers as an Indianapolis Colt, it went bad. Very bad. Very quickly. So we would like the Colts to maybe do a little this is a 10-year get back maybe for the Indianapolis Colts. Now on that note, Pittsburgh Steelers fans, is there shit that you see, and obviously your brother's a massive piece and component of it, can they turn this thing around on the defensive side? Can they become a team that they thought they were going to be coming into the year? DK seemingly making plays. Aaron's not playing terrible. They got stars all over the field on the defensive side. They got a lot of money on the defensive side, and it seems like they're just swish cheese.

26:56Pat McAfee:Can that get fixed in the middle of a season, Jage? What are your thoughts?

27:00JJ Watt:But Ken, yeah. I mean, I think they have to play better than they're playing right now. I mean, like we have all the stats for this game, obviously, and we're going through them. And And quarterbacks playing against them currently have the number one fastest time to throw. They're getting the ball out to open receivers very quickly. And the Steelers have the second fastest time getting to the quarterback. But they're just like, it's tough, man. There's guys open. The run game hasn't been great. Obviously, it opened up against the Bengals a little bit, which then opened up the pass game. And Jamar had his big day.

27:32JJ Watt:The tackling has been a bit of an issue here. And then obviously, you lose to Sean Elliott, who's a phenomenal player in both the run and in the communication, everything that goes on in the back end. So it's been a tough time. They have to get it corrected. And you just can't give up 143 yards, two tons to the tight end right after you gave up all those yards of Jamar Chase. Like, if you're looking at this as your Tyler Warren, you're just salivating. Yep, yep, yep.

27:58Pat McAfee:All right, let's not think about too much. Let's not pull out in the universe too much, okay? Because, now granted, we were 14.5-point favorites last week. It didn't matter. No. It's a brand-new Colts. It is. Hell yeah. Some of the same pieces. Brand new Colts. Not a lot of teams have covered those big spreads this year, too, across the board. Just teams in general. Team sports in general. It is not easy to be that much of a favorite. Mentally, it's not that easy to be that big of a favorite and then show up and do it. Because the other team knows that they're that much of a dog as well. I think it's a good exposure of your culture, I think, personally.

28:32Pat McAfee:I said that on game day because there's a lot of low-profile games in college. and it's like, hey, these good teams not playing like really good teams, I think it exposes your culture here in these games, how they go. And I think you can learn a lot about your team. And I think for us, last week for the Colts, it was that with the Titans. We're also learning a lot about –

28:48JJ Watt:Maybe the Steelers put on like their regular uniforms again and they turn back into good because that was – those were – that was – I don't know if you can play good in those.

28:57Pat McAfee:What was your tweet? Simply the worst unis that have ever – what was it exactly you said?

29:02JJ Watt:Yeah, somebody said, do you like these uniforms? and I said, no, they're quite easily the worst uniform on a field this season. Not just this season.

29:11Pat McAfee:I appreciate you stopping it this season. I don't know if you had another one.

29:14JJ Watt:Yeah, because there's been some bad ones. I didn't want to go lifetime, but they're in the discussion.

29:19Pat McAfee:They're in the Rushmore of ass unis in the history. Go ahead, Tom. Pat, what color uniforms do the Colts wear on the road? Well, I don't know. Is it all white? Yeah, normally. Yeah, so we're wearing the – Packers wore all white. Bengals were all white. They can't cover all white. It's the kryptonite. Say it on the broadcast, Jage. Use that on the broadcast. Hey, the Colts do wear white Spanx too, don't they? Oh, yeah. Yes, they do. I used to call me the Michelin tire man whenever I was in the all white. They put Hank Hush in a bad spot with these things. These things were not – and then his belly button.

29:55JJ Watt:Oh, I hate the all white.

29:57Pat McAfee:The Colts had the whitest of all whites since the beginning of time to the tradition. I'm like, can we get a little – just around here. It's Indiana. Just something like that. Yeah, I guess tradition.

30:06JJ Watt:You guys should test out how good you are. You got to bring back the midnight dark jerseys and see if you can still win wearing those. Oh, it's down there. Because then you know you're a true wagon. If you can wear those and win, then you're good. At noon on a Sunday. Indiana Nights. It's the Indiana Nights, Jage.

30:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's not midnight blues, you son of a bitch. Whatever. It's not good. She grew up tall and she grew up right with the Indiana boys on the Indiana Nights.

30:37JJ Watt:What has that jersey been through? That thing looks like it has been through a lot.

30:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, I don't know how much dust it is. A lot of dust. That's what it's about, though. That's Indiana night, brother. It's a tough time. And a good time. You know, that's what it's all about out here. They're talking about weeding that song, so that's why I really like that jersey. But on that note, yeah, can't be wearing that at 1 o 'clock in the afternoon whenever it's the Indiana Nights. But we had no prime time games. Should have kept that one and holster for this season. It would have been amazing. Now, talking about this season, it hasn't been a huge story as often as maybe like three years ago.

31:10Pat McAfee:Three years ago, it felt like we talked about it every single week. Yeah. This year, though, it's been kind of a slow build here because there's been a lot of very obvious shit. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Jay, obviously the refs have been a big thing so far this year, the tush-push, everything. General Ossie mentioned earlier in the week, but I did also want to ask you about the virtual measurement for Monday Night Football. Foxy has the video here, and it seemed to go over well. It was one of those things where Ertz on a fourth down, he just kind of gets there, but it's very close. From the first look, it looks like he's got the first down, but you go to the virtual measurement, and this is what they come up with, and it did seem as though he was short in the moment, but of course people have their opinions about the Chiefs being on primetime and that whole entire thing, but do you see the virtual measurement kind of lasting?

31:59Do you think that it will work? I saw people mention how this doesn't matter because human refs are still placing the ball. So does the virtual measurement take that into account? What are kind of your thoughts about this and just everything that's been happening in the past couple weeks?

32:17JJ Watt:Yeah, before the season, this was a huge discussion point for all of us, obviously in the broadcast world, just because of how it was going to be handled and discussed and everything. and the one point that I don't think people I think people are starting to understand it but that don't fully understand is that it is only virtually measuring where the ball is after its place there is no this isn't a chip in the ball situation where you know it's where would his knee go down and where was the ball at that exact moment none of that literally the refs are still placing the ball and then the only thing that's happening is the technology is figuring out did that ball cross the line to gain or not that's it so I think that people are probably a little like wait a second it's not actually telling us if he got the first down or not it's only where they spotted it so that's that's where a lot of discrepancy comes in and I also think that's probably why you haven't seen virtual measurements quite as much this year there's been a lot more kind of just it's a first down keep it moving keep the game moving we don't need to stop it for this virtual measurement um but it's it's really interesting that was the big thing takeaway for us in the in the beginning of the season it was oh okay so this is just the chain gang without bringing the chain gang out that's all yeah and hopefully they continue to

33:36Pat McAfee:evolve that just like they make changes like the kickoff rule too many people were way too comfortable saying they know exactly what five inches is though did you see that oh yeah oh yeah A lot of people. It felt like a very specific group of people were saying, that does look like five inches. That's a big number. That is a big number. Makes you think four is pretty big, too. Five inches was the perfect about the week. Yeah, no doubt. It was the absolute. Shout out Hawkeye. We appreciate him doing that. But, yeah, remember, they tried Hawkeye, what was that, last year, and it took like 45 minutes.

34:07Pat McAfee:It was the Lions, I think MCDC was on there. We're like, we're not doing this. And the NFL said, we're not doing this. now it's a little bit quicker but it's after the ball is spotted i assume we'll continue to get to a point where it's like in motion where's it at live tracker that's all what we're hoping for

34:21JJ Watt:right yeah we're all in the i feel like it's gotta it can't be that far away like i have no idea how technology works so i'm not going to pretend like i know but feel like we've got some pretty incredible stuff out there at some point we're going to be able to know like we'll stop it as soon as his knee hits the ground just tell us where's that ball at that moment yeah it's not waterproof yet remember it rained and they were like that the whole fucking thing doesn't work yeah that's right and you put a big thing that they've said is it doesn't go through the bodies so if you're in a pile for example that's when we don't need it the most

34:58JJ Watt:i still don't understand like the that whole play i we were we had our game going so i didn't get to see it but so you're just telling me like the second forward progress is done you can no longer have a fumble so nobody could ever fumble moving backwards in the history of sport well and then

35:14Pat McAfee:here's another follow-up question bruce brown new york giants fan asked so is the tush push stopped whenever his forward momentum stops the first time because if it's going to be the first time

35:24JJ Watt:he stops every single time yes then then you can't yeah if it's gonna if it's gonna be blown

35:29Pat McAfee:dead the first time he stops because the tush push is kind of a huh and then you know that is always what the tush that's kind of the push part of it yeah you know hey stop yeah right we're gonna power through that so them saying that forward progress was stopped it's like well every play on the tush push i think there's a move exactly of stoppage so it's just this is not good and everybody's talked about it by the way uh ba comes on the show yesterday he's like i won't talk about that tush push you come on here it is it's like yep gotta talk about that too it's like dan rolovsky's like i don't normally have a it's like everybody in sports is like hey we're done with this basically we got to figure this whole thing out i think now everybody's attention towards it is the refs have no idea what to do with it so if the refs have no idea what to do with it we can't do it it used to just be it was an ugly play it's a stupid play it's not a football play now the angle is the refs don't even know what to do with it so it's uh but this one i don't even get why

36:22JJ Watt:it's specific to the tush push like because i understand like everybody wants to push push dead and i i get that again but this this it doesn't matter if this was the tush push or not this is just a football play that was misrefereed. Like you said, if they stop him right there, but he lunges again, he has a first down. So why was this even a discussion? If a receiver was doing this out on the edge and got stopped, but then reached the ball out and fumbled, I don't know. Whatever. Whatever, dude. Whatever, dude. May 2026.

36:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's when the refs union deal is up with the NFL. So we might have a replacement ref situation, Bruin. or maybe we have a different pool of people potentially getting in. Have you heard my pitch for the, I don't want to say it's mine. I'm sure other people have thought about it. I'm not going to act like I was the first person to ever think about it, but I've been pushing it for a while. We should have a broadcast boot camp thing for officiating for ex-players.

37:21JJ Watt:Oh, you mean players become officials? Yeah.

37:24Pat McAfee:Like an academy. Like the guy who protected JSN. Yeah, that was when Nate That'd be really interesting What

37:35JJ Watt:What positions would be the best At refereeing?

37:38Pat McAfee:Punter, kicker, downhill

37:41JJ Watt:Big gap You guys weren't doing anything to start with You guys weren't doing a whole lot to start with So you've had plenty of time to study

37:47Pat McAfee:First of all, we understand situational football Better than everybody else on the fucking team Second of all, we've watched a lot of ball And also, get along with every relationship Every single position Now, on that note, what I'm going to miss out on is exactly what we want players to kind of be in there for. So I wouldn't have the feel. You know, like I think B.A. talked about a next safety. There was a safety that was like a deep judge or a back judge or something. Safety would be great. Yeah, he said he was incredible because he knew like literally – he was just back there.

38:16JJ Watt:Backpedaling.

38:17Pat McAfee:Literally just kind of seeing it.

38:18JJ Watt:And I'm not saying – Could a player take his bias out of it though? Could a safety be okay throwing a flag on pass interference because he's like, nah, I think that's okay.

38:27Pat McAfee:That's why they go to the academy. They go to the officiating academy to get beat down. Get all their biases out. If they're an offensive lineman, yeah, you're going to have to call a hold every once in a while when the fatso grabs somebody. You're going to have to do that. You would not, though. Offensive lineman would be the worst. Yeah, offensive lineman cannot be. That is actually a funny thing. No offensive lineman accepted into the officiating academy. Do you know when I wouldn't call a hold? Whenever the chop happens. I would never call a hold on the chop. I think JJ would agree with that.

38:55JJ Watt:The chop, I agree 100%. He's going to say the snatch. The snatch is definitely a hole.

39:01Pat McAfee:You see, because you're actually –

39:03JJ Watt:Go ahead. Go ahead. I agree. Like if you grab the V, you're saying? Like grab the V and neck down? If you grab the V or if you grab the outside, like the shoulders and pull down. But the chop, absolutely. That's on us. It sucks. It's very hard to play against, but not a hole. By the way, I was a big grab the V. Did you catch the burglar at your house?

39:21Pat McAfee:No, I haven't yet. Okay. On that note, we'll pivot away from football, I guess. If you know who these guys are, let us know. These guys stole$10 ,000 worth of Halloween decorations from A.Q. Shipley's front yard at 1214 a.m. the other night. A.Q. Shipley. $10 ,000. Oh, yeah. Just look at the big guy right there. Here's another one to the left. I mean, obviously, he decorated the house too well. These kids saw and said, damn. What scumbags. Goddamn delinquents. These kids aren't. Now, kid on left is about to break an entire decoration over here. It's about to drop and hit a cement thing pretty loud.

39:58Pat McAfee:Maybe wake up the neighborhood. And, oh, no, let me get the hell out of here. Kid on the right. Oh, no, I forgot my phone. Can't leave any evidence. Give me, is it here? Is that everything? Take off my mask. Give it the hell out of here. See you later. AQs, we hope you get them. I'm going to get them. Because normally you have the AQ takeaways. We actually describe that one as the AQs taken aways. Yeah. What a graphic. That's a good graphic. Yeah, the taking away. Uh-oh.

40:29JJ Watt:Any information on... You're headed to a goth punk concert there.

40:33Pat McAfee:He might be, actually. Yeah, we're not 100 % sure, but he had devil horns on in an earlier rendition of his graphic. I took him off. I didn't think that was proper for you to see. Be more accurate. Yeah, but he's not the devil in this situation. Oh, that's right. These little bastard kids are. That's right. And I'll tell you what. I was surprised that this generation of kids still had that. Agreed. I did not know that was still happening out there. I had no idea that was the case.

40:55JJ Watt:Those guys look like high school, maybe college. Those aren't kids.

41:00Pat McAfee:Hey, Q, what's your running theory right now? My running theory is this is some frat from either Grand Canyon University or ASU, and guess what? I'm coming. They fuck with the wrong guy. His theory is not that he's coming. He thinks that they want to decorate the frat house. When he decorates the frat house, having Halloween,

41:20JJ Watt:they drive around and find Skelly.

41:22Pat McAfee:And he saw his front yard and was like, holy shit, look at this. This thing's got everything. Parked down the street, obviously all come in, bang the bow. They get one of the big boys out, can't take the other one, all this stuff. And they get out. That's his working theory on no evidence. He did scan the neighborhood for other ring cameras, though. Oh, yeah. These kids need to know you are being hunted right now. Bad move.

41:45JJ Watt:Do we have any information besides shirtless white dudes? Oh, we will. That's it. We do.

41:50Pat McAfee:We do have some info. We don't want to give away too much to the kids. Just know, you can run, but you can't hide. AQ's not happy. He's exhausting every contact he has. Literally every contact. You remember, he was with the SEALs just a couple years ago. So maybe they're getting involved in this entire thing.

42:07JJ Watt:What's the plan if you drove past the frat house and you saw your skeleton out front, what are you doing? Taking him to Pan Pan.

42:15Pat McAfee:One at a time. He's coming. All right, the law is coming, boys. His name's A.Q. Shipley. Hard. You got my daughter's favorite skeleton in this fucking house. I don't think so. Basically. That is what yesterday I FaceTimed him. Hit full camo on.

42:36JJ Watt:All ghillied up. It's a Super Bowl. He's like, hell yeah. Hell yeah. It was so funny. Got a paintball gun on your back? Not a paintball gun.

42:46Pat McAfee:It's a real thing. He starts getting worked up. Kids are in the car. Once I drop them off at school, I'm going to find you. And I said, what are you doing? Are you just looking in houses? How are you going to find them? He goes, they got to be local. They were running. I'm like, you don't think they could have a car? They jumped out of the car down the street. I haven't thought about that. You see this? I'm going to get to this. I'm going to scan the neighborhood.

43:08JJ Watt:They have a 12-foot skeleton either in the back of a car or on their backs. Somebody had to see a 12-foot skeleton. JJ, he told me this morning he went to neighbors' houses, went into their houses to watch their ring cam footage.

43:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's literally scanning neighborhood. Knocking on doors. 12, 14 a.m. Can I see your ring camera? Need it. Not the one that's shooting out the side. I think the angle would be this side. He's Dateline NBC right now. This guy is Dateline right now. Crime junkie, AQ Shipley, to get to the bottom of the Halloween decorations. Just know, boys, I assume.

43:39JJ Watt:You got to get Biz with you down there. He's down there somewhere in Arizona. Get him involved.

43:45Pat McAfee:Now, the thought is you find them. You want them one at a time, right? I don't want to get jumped. Yeah, so Biz will say, boys, wait in line, please. This is only right. One at a time. Does a Vandenbosch live next to you? Take him with you. Take him. Boom. Yes. Oh, no. These kids have no idea. If, hypothetically, these kids see this segment and the skeleton is potentially returned by this afternoon, is there still comeuppance? Well, maybe call off the Navy SEALs that are currently hunting them down. Right? Isn't that currently the film? Yeah, we might call them off. We might call the dogs off.

44:21Pat McAfee:They need a big skeleton back. They better have their face covered because I see that thing getting delivered on my ring cam. I'm coming for them. Okay. Every one of them. All right. Well, there's a chance one or all of those kids watch this show. Okay? There's just a chance.

44:36JJ Watt:No question. I want to say. One of them probably tried the field goal kicking contest when you were at Arizona State.

44:43Pat McAfee:We weren't at Arizona State. But on that note, we'd like to see if those kids are as good of kickers as they are jump over bushers. Three foot high. Oh, yeah. Pretty good athlete. Pretty good athlete. You might need to – maybe don't take them to the ground. You know, these kids might have you. Check the sports team. Or teach them a lesson. Break both his legs. Bingo. Not such a good athlete anymore. There's a lesson to be taught here, whether they return it or not. It's one-by-one season, baby. You got to knock these bitches down. What if they do it next year? Look at that big skeleton getting dragged out of there.

45:10Pat McAfee:That guy was a staple of your front yard. He was. What'd you do? Definitely broke the face on group right there. I'm not happy. Even if it gets returned, it's definitely broke. I'm still coming for you. Your kids are crying, right? Weren't your kids like... 6 a.m. My seven-year-old daughter comes in to wake me up and says, the skeleton's gone and the other one's broke on the front lawn. That's how I woke up yesterday. How would you wake up? What would you do? Line them up. Knock them down. Not happy. These kids have no idea. No, they don't. They picked the wrong guy. The shipyard's in the back.

45:45Pat McAfee:You don't want to mess with anyone who has a shipyard around it that has an unflushed toilet for four years. He drinks out of it.

45:52JJ Watt:This guy does jujitsu in Billionaire's basement. He's coming for you.

45:57Pat McAfee:Wrong guy. All right. Hopefully your skeleton's back. Speaking of being back, let's talk ball. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Jage, a couple weeks ago after that Monday night game against Seattle, the Texans were kind of left for dead. basically everyone saying, hey, this offense sucks. C.J. Stroud has regressed. He's not the guy he was. Their defense is good, but this team is ultimately going nowhere. And then on Sunday, I think everyone – I know the 49ers are banged up, but I think everyone kind of respects what they are, and boy, the Texans kind of made easy work of them. Do you think the – I mean, are we in Texans or back territory?

46:30Do you think that they're going to make a strong push for the playoffs here? What have you thought about this team, especially coming off a big win this weekend?

46:39JJ Watt:I mean, obviously, I hope so. I think they look great. They needed this. Now, you're correct, obviously. The 49ers are banged up, so you do have to put that on there. But they have looked pretty good while being banged up and gone out there and beat some good teams. So it was good. It was good to see the offense humming a little bit again and kind of finding their rhythm. We know the defense is great. So if they put it all together and they're able to protect CJ and he's able to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball, they can be a very good football team because that defense is elite, elite.

47:10JJ Watt:So if they put it together, it will be great. I sure hope that they do. But, I mean, it's a very, very, very big mountain to climb in the AFC South. So it's still a lot of time left, but there's certainly – you've got to win some games to get into contention here.

47:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a big mountain. It is. Yeah, we're a drop through India. Man, we're a mountain. You hear what he said? Oh, yeah. Haven't won the AFC South 13 years. Oh. The mountains all of a sudden back rowing here in this very flat city of Indianapolis, Indiana. And that's a shame, Jage. Hopefully they figure it out down there. Let's talk about being back. Go ahead, AQ. Go ahead, AQ. Speaking of climbing the mountains, it doesn't look like it from that graphic because they're the favorites to win the AFC North, but the Baltimore Ravens, are they in must-win territory on tomorrow night's game against the Miami Dolphins?

48:02And will they be back to who we thought they were with Lamar? That's a good question.

48:06JJ Watt:yeah i mean they they looked so much better this past weekend than they had in a couple previous games obviously we had them against the texans where i mean they just got annihilated and it wasn't even a contest so um they looked a lot better with snoop huntley out there patrick ricard was back derrick henry was running the ball um their defense played a lot better roquan being back making some tackles was really really good for the defense kyle hamilton being down in the box and being utilized more in the line of scrimmage picking in the pass rush game and blitzing and so you add Lamar back into that mix and Thursday night all of a sudden they go from a one and five team on the potential of being completely out of playoff discussions to now if they can win Thursday they go into a long weekend with 10 days rest at three and five with a nice schedule in front of them in terms of win-loss percentage of the teams they have coming up they're certainly poised to make a little bit of a run here and put themselves in a good spot, which is why, again, we talked about this at the beginning of the show, but when the Steelers had that chance to kind of slam the door, they didn't.

49:14They left it kind of creaked open.

49:16JJ Watt:They left it cracked, yeah. That was wide open. You might need to crack a door there with the incense you got going.

49:22Pat McAfee:What are you talking about? You burn the sage, you keep it in. Yeah. Keep the even spirit tight. No, absolutely. It's Halloween. I didn't know you could see that, Jake. And on that note, I hope everybody gets the evil spirits away from them.

49:34JJ Watt:Happy Halloween. It's Halloween. It's a decoration.

49:37Pat McAfee:The sage? No, yeah, I guess it is a decoration, and it also is an acting agent of happiness and change as well. We incense in here all the time. It's not just Halloween season for me with sage, but not a bad time to kind of keep the evil spirits out. Speaking of keeping evil spirits out, this is what Lamar Jackson said yesterday about the big storyline of getting rid of the ping pong tables and the corn holes out of the locker room. Oh, yeah. I told Kaneko, our head equipment guy, I told him to take all the games and ping pong, turn the TVs off. If we could have took the TVs out, they would have been out too.

50:12I appreciate Mr. Steve for putting that in there for us. Yeah, we had to focus. I wouldn't say people don't take the job seriously, don't get me wrong, but I didn't feel like it was the time for that. We got a lot of work to do. What's it going to take to get the back out? Keep winning. Keep winning. keep winning because we're not gonna have them the rest of the year so keep winning probably have them next year summertime otas or something but right now that's not the focus jage i love to

50:39Pat McAfee:hear that uh if there was a video coming out i think marlon humphreys was live on the plane after a game and go over to lamar and mar's basically like get that shit out of my face i love that lamar is like that i like that lamar has come out publicly and been like yeah that's all my shit and get out and uh mr steve thanks for the tvs okay i really it's very nice you to have these we would have been trying to get those off the wall if we could too what did you hear from Lamar there legit and what are your expectations now going forward yeah I mean I um I

51:08JJ Watt:was I'm a bit of an old school guy I like that like I like I was kind of that way and I I understand that there's times in my career as a leader where probably take that a little too far you have to understand you know different motivations or the way guys are led and things like that and have a good pulse on the locker room but i think when your biggest leader best player uh says hey we're cutting out all the bullshit we're just going to focus and win football games and i know there's a bunch of fans sitting out there saying like why don't we just do that all the time why don't we just always focus on winning and only focus on winning like it's it sounds so obvious when you say it um but it's it's i've also seen it go completely the other way where you take that stuff out and then you lose and everybody's like oh was it the ping pong tables was that why we lost like they're gone now um so it's but personally i'm one of those guys where i'm like when it's time to focus let's focus when it's time to have fun let's have fun well think about

52:04Pat McAfee:the amount of meeting time that lamar has too and then we look they lose a game and lamar meeting comes in the locker room and a bunch of people who maybe didn't have the best game are in there having a good time and i'm just going yeah right yeah right let's uh this is not how this i like that Lamar's at that stage of his career. I didn't know that about Lamar. Neither did I.

52:25JJ Watt:I think that's a good thing. It's also a big thing to do while you're not playing in that game coming up. He's like, no, screw this. We're going to... Don't worry. We used to have a counter. What happened? I feel like that just went out the window.

52:40Pat McAfee:We gave up. We tried our best, but really we is who we is. That's just kind of how it goes. Also, that one particular word, man, it makes things a lot better, especially with what the alternative is. Sometimes you've got to let one of those fly. What almost letting one of those fly would have been?

52:55JJ Watt:Have you ever let one fly on game day?

52:58Pat McAfee:No. That's morning TV. That's morning national television.

53:03JJ Watt:Where are you this week?

53:04Pat McAfee:Utah, brother. Utah. Cincinnati, Utah going out there. First Big 12 game since last time we were at Utah, I believe. I'm not 100 % sure. First Big 12 college game day game in a while. Could have went to the Holy War a couple weeks back. I thought that was potentially going to happen Then we went to Georgia Ole Miss instead. Georgia gets huge win over Ole Miss. Now we're going Cincy, Utah. Cincy hot since opening week. And Utah, obviously, an absolute wagon. They lose to BYU. A lot of people losing to BYU. They're obviously in it as well. So, yeah, we're heading out there to the mighty Utah student section.

53:36Pat McAfee:The must. They were electric the last time we were out there. Cannot wait to see the beautiful sights. I thought you guys were going to go to Wisconsin this weekend.

53:43JJ Watt:No, that's – All right. All right. All right.

53:47Pat McAfee:That's only if they're big-time donors can maybe start getting some good-time players.

53:51JJ Watt:Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? I'm relaxed. They did score points.

53:53Pat McAfee:Last question.

53:54JJ Watt:Unnecessary shots from the donut shop over there. Calm down.

53:58Pat McAfee:Donuts are Thursday, prick. And also, hey, he's been working out.

54:04JJ Watt:Patriots are flying high, and he's feeling good. He wants them to trade for Miles Garrett.

54:10Pat McAfee:Last question here. Speaking of Miles, maybe Miles Garrett is the answer to this. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, JJ, in 2024, I was an AP NFL voter. A lot of people were saying it was the best ballot they've ever seen. So I wanted to ask you about this year. Jonathan Taylor is on. Thank you. Hey, good work, Tony. Thank you. A lot of people were saying that.

54:30JJ Watt:Did the AP voters vote for your AP voting? Yep, I was at the top.

54:34Pat McAfee:Wow. Pretty good, right? Power rankings. But this year, Jonathan Taylor is on pace for, I believe, 2 ,400 yards and 31 touchdowns. but yeah, he's top of the offensive player of the year, you know, betting slip, but he's like seventh or eighth or something like that for, for MVP, which doesn't make sense to me. Does that make sense to you at all?

54:57JJ Watt:No, but we've, well, I guess it does. We've had this conversation many times before, but at some point we're finally just going to stop and make this either best quarterback of the year or just say MVP is only a quarterback award because Jonathan Taylor is playing as good as you can possibly play at the running back position right now three touchdowns and three games straight everything that you've got going and it's just basically a foregone conclusion like yeah oh yeah he's the offensive player of the year it's like well no he's the best player in football right now like he's doing unbelievable things but you know my thoughts on it because i've been in this discussion before it is physically impossible for somebody to be more valuable than the quarterback because they touch the ball every play so at some point let's just make it best quarterback and then offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year and call the day because it's dumb.

55:46JJ Watt:If we're not going to actually give people an opportunity to be MVP, why have it?

55:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, but MVP sounds cool. MVP sounds really cool. It does. Best QB. It does. BQB. You could grow on you. BQB. BQB. Oi! Oi! Oi! Hey, maybe that's the right answer as we go forward. Jage, we appreciate you, man. Good luck this weekend. Thank you so much for the time. Hey, your soccer team's really good. Espanol.

56:12JJ Watt:There it is. Whenever we lose, you're all about it. Last week we both win. Nothing. This week we both win. Nothing. Try and pick it to the end of the hour. We go straight to commercial. Nothing. Espanol. Burnley. Men. Women. Winning.

56:28Pat McAfee:Winning. More. More. More. More. More. More. That's Burnley Espanol football, baby. Yeah, it is. That's what it is. Congrats. Espanol. Top of the.

56:42JJ Watt:And we win, everyone.

56:45Pat McAfee:That's pretty good. That was great.

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58:03Pat McAfee:This podcast is magical and so is Halloween. If you got decorations, hang on them because these college kids are coming for all of them like they did to 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, AQ Shipley. Hi, baby. Hi, baby. They didn't know who they were messing with, AQ, did they? They sure didn't. Now, listen, I will say maybe I knew these shirtless bandits come in at 12, 14 a.m. to AQ Shipley's front yard. and ransacked the whole thing. Now, do they get all the great decorations out of there that AQ has spent a lot of money on because he likes to be the spookiest house in the neighborhood? Sure.

58:37Pat McAfee:No, they weren't able to get them all out of there because his contracting skills and his construction skills were so good, he hammered these things into the desert. Yeah. They weren't able to get a 10-footer over here. They were able to get a 10-footer on the other side. And AQ's kids' favorite decorations have been stolen by some shirtless assholes in the middle of the night. And these kids, they might have got some other decorations from some other houses. Those other houses probably said, oh, okay, that's it, I guess. Not this guy. He's got time. Kids go to school. I go work on Wednesday. I go work on Sunday.

59:13Pat McAfee:Every other day, guess what I got? These fucking kids. Good luck to you, AQ, and your hunt. And we'd like to send a message to those boys that they could certainly bring those back overnight. Leave them out there. and everything would be good, right? Everything would be good. Because it sounds like in the first hour when we broached the subject of maybe getting your shit back because maybe somebody would show them this, you were like, nope, don't care. When you come back and bring them, I'm going to be waiting. So we should maybe just at least lie and say, hey, get them to the front yard. Then once they get on your property, I don't know what Arizona's rules are.

59:46Pat McAfee:You could have a whole cage shut up. One by one, have them walk in there. Maybe some lighting. I'll pay for some lighting, 3 a.m. Maybe I'll pay for an octagon. I'll pay for an octagon out there. I'll take that. One by one. Call it the shark tank. Call it the ship tank. Yeah, yeah, call it the ship tank. I love everything about it. Look out for your decorations. Also, I would never implicate myself, but I have seen others that obviously I don't know. People just happen to be walking down the street. Kids take those pumpkins too and they just... Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, those, you take all the time decorating those pumpkins.

1:00:28Pat McAfee:Let me cut out this perfect eyeballs here. Bang, that looks good. Put a good candle. Maybe even, you know, my dad put a remote control light in the one that he made for my daughter. And he was hitting that thing with different colors as my daughter was looking at him like, genius. The evolution of these things is so great. Was I putting that outside? Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Oh, no. No way am I putting it outside. Because guess what little baby shark do-do-do-do pumpkins about to do-do-do. That thing's getting hucked down the street, maybe into a lake. Because these kids still got it. We learned that from his ring cam.

1:00:56Pat McAfee:They will still come for you. The toxic table at Boston Corner and Ty Schmidt. Feels like you think there's still a little sauce on these kids. Didn't know that was happening in 2025 with all the technology that we have. We can almost see these kids' faces. We got their fingerprints through the ring cam. Yeah, exactly. I was just going to say, PSA, if you're a kid coming trick-or-treating in my neighborhood and you smash my pumpkins, I'll hit you with my car. I'll come out and find you, and I'll fucking run you over with my car. It's so hard to clean up pumpkins Because by the time Halloween comes You've had those pumpkins out there for 10 days They're already kind of getting a little mushy And yeah ready to go If you smash one of those things On my porch or on my walkway Leading up to my porch I will go get in my car and I'll run you over And then I'll eat your candy in front of you While my tire is on your back And you're screaming please help me And I'll fucking eat every fun size Snickers you got Oh that neighborhood's got fun size I didn't know I thought Some masters do.

1:01:47Some of the cheapskates are still doing it, which I can respect. Because when you got kids like that out there, you don't want to reward them. Bingo.

1:01:54Pat McAfee:Friday night Halloween should be a good turnout, I assume, for Halloween. Oh, my God. We're going to be so drunk. That's one half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys AP Cup. Think about the parents. A Friday night trick-or-treating? Yeah. Just going to roll them around, walk in, come back to the house. Take one, kids. Take one. Good for you. Good luck. We used to be a decent society, though, where we would just, you know, toilet paper and throw some eggs. This is crossing the list. I also don't want to implicate anybody I know. You say just toilet paper and stuff? I've seen a lot of other stuff that's not good for society.

1:02:26Pat McAfee:A little hockey ball, deck hockey ball. Sure. Somebody loaded that up with gunpowder. That was a crazy day. That's insane. Yeah, that was pretty. Poop on fire on the front doorstep. I assume they're still. That's maybe an extra UAQ. Now we called these boys out. These boys might actually say, bring it back. Yeah, right. We got ideas. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is an Ohio man. I assume that he was not a part of any of these shenanigans, but he certainly heard of it. Back in the day, like night before Halloween. Oh, yeah, big time. Yeah, it was the night that everything kind of went down.

1:02:56Pat McAfee:It had to be on high alert for the police if you were just happening to be out and about the night before Halloween. But in communities like ours, it was certainly an active evening. You know, just hijinks. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, lover of Halloween, A.J. Hawke. Yeah, A.J. Hawke. You see what these boys did to AQs? I mean, they picked the wrong house, I think. AQ's going to be laying out there in a ghillie suit for the next month and a half waiting on these punks to show up. That is accurate, and he will do that. I don't think there's... There's so many of them.

1:03:25AQ, you could just four him to the head, elbow to the back, kick the next guy. You would take these kids out so fast.

1:03:31Pat McAfee:That's a dream scenario for A.J. Hawk. Hawk wishes he was smoking a cigar right here and just kind of in the shadows, and then all of a sudden, Bad move, boys. Just right out, bang, the bang, the bang. Instead, AQ sleeps like a rock through 10-foot statues falling on cement outside of his house, does not wake up, and the boys get off scot-free with some sick, super lit Halloween decorations for the house. The skeletons are unbelievable. The crazy thing is, Freddie Freeman hit a home run about 15 minutes prior to that. That's when I left the living room. Can you imagine if that game went one more inning and I heard that and I'm in the living room.

1:04:12Pat McAfee:19 inning game is what you needed to maybe save your skeletons. Instead, it was only 18 innings. Quick, we'll go around the room because it is Halloween week. Reese's, okay? P &M &M's. Reese's or Snickers? Reese's. Pumpkin Reese's. I don't mind the egg either. Oh, yeah, yeah. The shaped, yeah, Halloween we're doing pumpkin shaped Reese's. Yeah, I'm on that side as well. I got about 22 big cups in my backpack right now. Reese's. Reese's. Okay, you like the big cup. I think maybe the ratio not as great with some of the bigger ones whenever Reese's starts kind of dancing around. But the egg shape and the pumpkin shape always, and even the tree shape for Jesus' birthday, those are good.

1:04:50Pat McAfee:AJ, for you, Rice? I would say either Butterfinger or an ice cream Snickers. The freezer Snickers. People are handing out ice cream. Ice cream Snickers is good. I like the neighborhood. You got a freezer out there? I never got one on Tricker Street. I'm telling you my favorite I guess I was thinking favorite candy bar slash candy I didn't think the things that I had been giving to me in my pillowcase on trick or treat that is what we're talking about so you're saying you're going to go with Butterfinger I'd assume or Snickers if there's a king size Butterfinger house within like 8 miles we found it we went back multiple times like switching our costumes yeah that's a classic mall cafeteria toothpick let me go ahead and get some more Kung Pao hat on is what you're doing for the Butterfinger I had a Butterfinger run for like two, three years, I think.

1:05:37Pat McAfee:It sticks on a roof. You've got to be in the mood. You've got to be in the mood for it, I would say. I think the Reese's folks, whenever they created it, they were like, yep. It was a home run. We did it. Everyone else is screwed. We did it. And congrats to them for doing that. Joining us now, I'll be excited to get his take on this. Grew up in a vastly different place than all of them. Yeah, how do they do that? I don't know. Do they do it? Ladies and gentlemen, you city folk do it? How do you do it? You just go apartment built? How does that work?

1:06:03JJ Watt:Yeah, you just go apartment building to apartment building. This guy grew up in Connecticut. My grandma lived in New York for 45 years. I took the sailboat house to house.

1:06:13Pat McAfee:Peter Traeger. Yeah, Traeger. Traeger, what do you guys do? You just walk down the hall and just knock on apartments? Is that what happens? Yeah, more or less. You've got giant apartment buildings with 20 apartments on one floor. You knock on the door and there's a dish out front and people come out and you could do a lot of damage in a little time. But I live in Brooklyn where it's a lot of these different like brownstones with stoops and you go stoop by stoop. But I grew up in the suburbs of Jersey where it was a, it was a, you know, you got your eggs, you went nuts and you did your mischief and all that stuff.

1:06:44But in this, in the city environment, it's a little bit different.

1:06:47Pat McAfee:Halloween, still a thing. Did it die off? I feel like it's, I feel like it got good juice this year. My neighborhood's got a lot of juice. Yeah, I think so. I think there's a lot of, there was in one particular neighborhood, AQ spent a lot of money. It feels like Halloween's got a lot of good juice. Yeah. Yeah. Oh! What a shirt. Wow. That's a good shirt right there. Terrible timing. On that note, Halloween's got good juice. Yeah, that's some good juice. Yeah, all right. We, uh, KM Scatter. I got another one for you. Okay. A Mecca. A Puka. Okay, all right. Yeah, happy Halloween. Yeah, happy Halloween.

1:07:26Pat McAfee:All right. Let's get back to spooky Scadaboo, who we certainly love and we're a massive fan of. Have been, obviously, since we learned of his existence in college at Arizona State. He come back not only in dislocation, got a couple fractures as well. I mean, it feels like the news about Scadaboo is worse than what we maybe expected at the beginning, even though it was nasty to look at. He was big time hard of that team, seemingly, quickly, him and Jackson. How do the Giants kind of move forward without Scadaboo? and what are you hearing from the locker room about Scadaboo's injury? It's bone crushing.

1:08:01It's, as you guys know, quite literally.

1:08:04Pat McAfee:Yeah. Right ankle, fibula, deltoid ligament rupture. And he knew right away. You saw him like, he didn't even win. So he's just like, yep, I'm gone. Like, get me out of here. And that is compounded with the loss of neighbors, which they were somehow with scotch tape and with glue and like an arts and crafts project, putting together a passing offense without him, but two tremendous losses. And it's like, you can't write it any worse for the Giants because they were just getting some enthusiasm and some light. And it's going to be a rough go the rest of the season. And the question is, how do these other guys respond?

1:08:39Obviously it's next man up, but Scadaboo was becoming the heart and soul of this team and also the heart and soul of the city. Like the Wednesday before that game against the Eagles, he was at the Knicks game wearing a Brunson's jersey underneath the hoop and he's going wild. And it's like, he was the biggest celebrity in New York for a little bit there. And now it's going to be a long, long recovery back. And obviously the six-month timeline is what people are saying, but who knows? This thing, this is brutal.

1:09:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, it absolutely is. Godspeed, Scadaboo. Godspeed on recovery. We will all miss you. And that's a great shirt. I hope we move a bunch of those, and I hope it goes into Cam's pockets, not somebody else. I'm not even going to say the name because we've got good vibes today. Speaking of today, Aiden Hutchinson just got paid. $141 million guaranteed. Most guaranteed for a non-quarterback in the history of the NFL. how long have they been working on this? I think we all kind of thought it was going to take place. JJ mentioned about how this is pretty deep in the season for this type of contract to happen.

1:09:31Pat McAfee:What were you hearing on the conversations that led to this? And what are you hearing out of Detroit after the deal gets done, Shregs? Well, this is like your perfect hometown kid does right and has done everything right and has recovered from the injury and been even better off of it. But I was hearing about this deal potentially coming down before the season. So it doesn't, And yet it does in week nine, which is great. You have to take care of it. And what the Lions are proving is draft well, take care of your homegrown players, and you will be good for a sustained amount of time. Now, of course, it's easier said than done.

1:10:03But when you look at Brad Holmes' last few drafts, whether it be, obviously, Aiden Hutchinson, but Gibbs has been tremendous. Branch has been a defensive leader. Aylan McNeil, they've got all these different guys that they drafted themselves. They're not huge spenders in free agency. They don't go wild. They made the one big trade with Jared Goff. And here we are. And they've got a team that's all homegrown talent that grew up together. And they took care of their defensive leader in Aiden Hutchinson.

1:10:29Pat McAfee:Yeah. And they're winning too. You know, like whenever you take care of your own people, that means you got a hit on your draft picks. They've certainly done that at a very, very high rate. Everybody fits their culture. Obviously Aiden, perfect for Detroit and the state of Michigan. Congrats to him and his whole family getting this deal done. Now, we, as parts of the sports media, daily sports conversation, immediately spun it to a different conversation. Can you put up all the top paid defensive ends, please? So you look at these, and now on the far right, Trey Hendrickson there, we got Burns off the graphic.

1:11:00Pat McAfee:We had two different graphics. Burns was on the graphic at like$28.2 million. Josh Hines Allen is like$28.8 million or something like that. Trey Hendrickson now at$29 million, which is$13 million higher than what it was going into the season. But you look at kind of everybody up there, You got game wreckers all over the place. Micah gets traded to get that deal done. TJ and Aiden stay where they're at. Myles Garrett stays where he's at. We immediately, after seeing Myles Garrett throw his helmet this past weekend after getting five sacks, we start chit-chatting about, oh, wait a minute. Myles Garrett may be on the move, especially with Spotrak putting out a tweet about how easily movable his contract actually is.

1:11:37Pat McAfee:You don't have to really pay anything until like 2028 or 2029, and you can renegotiate a deal. Maybe Myles Garrett's on the move. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, as far as that goes with Myles Garrett, I know Shefty tweeted something that there's no chance that they're going to, the Browns claim there's no chance they're going to trade him. I guess, do you believe this? And what are the chances, I guess, that Myles does get moved? Here's what it is. It's the dead cap money that is so treacherous. And it would be something that would hamper the Cleveland Browns for years to come. And I know on the websites that do the salary cap, there's ways to round it.

1:12:11And you could say, well, another team could pick up some of it. if you go through it though it would be such an anchor on them even if they got you know four first round picks even if they got back another talented player that salary the way it's written it will come back to be eating them for years and years to come and that said who what are you bringing in that's not miles garrett now i know he made his voices i trust me super bowl week the amount of shows we did on good morning football about you know where should miles garrett go and then at the end of all that him demanding trades and requesting trades for him to be like, no, I'm actually happy with 40 million.

1:12:44I couldn't imagine putting the toothpaste back in the tube. But clearly this is a guy who has had interest in leaving, got paid, kept his mouth quiet for a little bit. And now it's kind of like, what are we doing here? And now that the number has gone even higher with those last two deals, you could argue that, gosh, another team would pick up that salary and would eat all of it and would be getting a bargain based on how good he is. I just think the dead cap money is so, so treacherous that Cleveland from a salary cap standpoint, it would be really hard to navigate for the next several seasons.

1:13:17Pat McAfee:61.4 million dollars in dead cap over a two year period for them. We saw the Denver Broncos do what they did with Russell Wilson contract and everything like that in the past. I'm not saying that Cleveland would do that, but I'm just saying people from outside looking in automatically go, wait a minute, Miles Garrett might be on the move. Now, the team that he would potentially be going to made our team that he would potentially be going to made a couple moves last night get rid of some players you know pick up maybe a six round pick instead of a seventh round pick they have the most amount of cap space let's leave miles garrett out of this but what do these moves kind of signal to you from the new england patriots last night who have the most amount of cap space available in the entire nfl here as we sit in a very good football team shrieks and they might not be done i think some of these moves marcus jones has been an incredible player for them and that's one of the the last picks that Belichick made that you can point to and be like, all right, Bill nailed on that one.

1:14:07These two guys did not work out long-term. Obviously Duggar was a good player early on. They get rid of them. They have all this space. So does that mean they're going to have another chess piece that they're going to add? They're going to make another move, but this is more or less Mike Vrabel purging of whatever was there that he inherited that doesn't fit his future vision. And that could be Keon White. It could be Kyle Duggar, both fine men, fine, but like Keon White had a great training camp this year. We got excited about it. It hasn't developed. and Duggar, there wasn't a place on the field right now for him.

1:14:35So they make these moves. And if you're looking at what this Patriots team is, and I spoke to Brian Hoyer for a while this morning, just talking about Frank May and dog for real, Ohio guy. And Hoyer was saying they are so ahead of schedule right now, but we might not have on the outside expected them to be where they at, but they kind of do. like they they had this vision internally that they would be contenders and they would be able to be this good and vrabel and mcdaniels are coaching up this team that's so young that they have this unselfish vibe to them in that you look at the wide receivers and you look at the tight ends it's like everybody eats i went through it uh earlier this week i was on nfl live and i was like booty led the lead the team in receiving one one week stevenson did matt collins did hunter Henry did, and they all celebrate each other.

1:15:28There's this great young vibe. So nothing against Keon White or Kyle Duggar, but this is like Vrabel's vision of a future, Vrabel's vision of this run right now. Drake May is at the switch. He's the guy. But if I don't see you as all in and for the future and for the long-term, and we don't necessarily need you on the field, I'm going to move on and I'm going to use that space elsewhere. So I would keep an eye on them after this weekend's game against the Falcons? Do they make a trade in that 48-hour window? And if not, in the next free agency period, gosh, they're going to have a wonderful thing to sell, free agents.

1:16:02Look what you can come and join, a great culture with guys who are all on board.

1:16:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, on that note about if not them or watch them, Tone has a question. Yeah, Shregs, obviously we know you are the king of the NFL draft in predicting what's going to happen there because of your relationships that you've built with all of the GMs in the National Football League. So is it similar around the trade deadline? and which teams should we be watching at the trade deadline? All right, you're not going to get big names this week. And I know it makes for great internet fodder and some retweets when you start throwing out names and throwing them against the wall. But I've done this long enough.

1:16:34What happens is you're going to get through this weekend. And I remember covering the Christian McCaffrey trade where everyone was calling Carolina from week six to nine and nobody would get an answer from Carolina. Then all of a sudden in two days, it got done with the 49ers. I remember doing the Von Miller trade to the Rams where everyone was calling Denver from weeks five to nine. No one talks and they get through week nine and it's like, all right, what do you got? What's the best deal? I do believe there's going to be some action, but it's not going to happen until Monday and Tuesday of next week and right up to that trade deadline.

1:17:04But it's a little different than the NBA and Major League Baseball where it's the names you're already hearing. There could be names that we don't know that are teams that suddenly aren't going to be contenders based on their loss on Sunday that suddenly those are the ones moving. I think Trey Hendrickson is a very viable option to be traded based on what you see on paper. This is a guy who's making reasonable money. He's in the final year of a contract. He's already been unhappy. That seems to be a guy that maybe goes with Coach Lou and Indy, like you're talking right now. Yeah, an hour and a half, two hours, not that big of a deal.

1:17:37Or is that a San Francisco that's lost so many on the defensive line with all the injuries? And yes, they added Keon White, but maybe they make the call. So he is to me a prime target. I'll give you some other names. Quincy Williams, not Quinnen, but Quincy from the Jets is an all pro linebacker. I think he could be a name. Brees Hall, of course, we've been hearing his name floating around for quite some time. They got a lot out of Isaiah Davis this last week. Maybe they move him for something. And a names that are all on that Saints roster, which is all veteran guys, whether it be DeMario Davis or whether it be Shahid, whether it be Taysom Hill, whoever it is, all that Saints roster.

1:18:13You look at that thing. You've got a half of a season left. They're basically eliminated from any playoff contention. They've got a lot of veteran guys in the final years of their contract. Those are movable assets.

1:18:22Pat McAfee:Taysom Hill available. No, a lot of it. Maybe. Chespis. Where are you going to plug him in? Can you imagine Tyler Warren and Taysom Hill and Jonathan Taylor all in the backfield? And Dimes. And you've got Dimes taking a snap, a triangle around. Oh, my. Who's the quarterback? We don't know. Who's running? We don't know who's going. We don't know who's throwing. We don't know. I mean, Shane Sykin's got a lot. We don't know. The defensive coordinator's got to figure out. Just something to think about as we're on top of it. Okay, I'm excited to see how trade deadline works. And if you're saying nothing's going to happen this week, that's good.

1:18:55Pat McAfee:We can focus on Halloween and who stole his decorations. You mentioned a couple Jets players there. Let's talk about that place. Aaron Glenn gets his first win. Go ahead, AQ. Yeah, Shrek, speaking of the Jets, they got a big win against the Bengals. The run game looked good. The offensive line looked good. Justin Fields looked good. Mm-hmm. Did he earn the confidence back from the organization? At this point, it's like when you're going to talk publicly about the quarterback position, no one's trying to curry the favor of the owner anymore. He said what he said. Okay, let's do it for ourselves.

1:19:25And that's what Justin Fields did. I thought he was beautiful in that press conference, talking about his faith, talking about his belief in himself, but also his vulnerability and what it took to him to get out of this game what he did. uh obviously aj and aq and pat like the loss of nick mangold on sunday morning broke a lot of us and i got the news 10 minutes before it went public and i was i've known nick obviously not as long as you aj but like that's a dear dear person in my life both as a professional covering him and then in his media stuff and just knowing the guy i think that was felt throughout the jets organization to start the morning that way which was such a a back-breaking way to start nfl sunday and it's going to be with us for a long, long time thinking about Nick, but then for them to rally around the way that they did as a team and forget this owner and whatever he said this week and forget what everyone's saying about us on the outside and forget for us to rally around.

1:20:21And maybe I'm being, you know, I'm not connecting it, but like this was a special moment for the Jets organization. And I don't know what fueled them to find the way, but they did. And so my long reaction here is there was no reason they should have won that game. And yet they did. And you have to believe that there is a belief in each other. And I almost think the owner's comments from earlier in the week, last week, have galvanized them in a way that the media couldn't and the outside noise couldn't and the athletic articles couldn't last year. This is like, oh, you're going to be the one to talk about us?

1:20:53Well, let's go show you what we can do.

1:20:55Pat McAfee:And we're going to do it for us, not for you. Okay. And on that note, you talk about doing it for them in the locker room. I think it's really cool aaron glenn i don't know how much he got to know nick but like his first win as a jets coach is same like nick mango is a part of it you know like that is a uh that's a cool thing i think from all of us football people whenever i didn't get to know nick mango as close as you guys but he's beloved by everybody brother i mean that is a uh that's a jolly soul that i think we will certainly miss and i think everybody that morning were like jets gotta win like that that was literally i think like everybody's natural reaction and then for them to actually do it really cool shit you And the fashion that they did it with the comeback, but also like Aaron Glenn, this is so deep cut football, but you'll appreciate this.

1:21:36Aaron Glenn has been destroyed for his game management and his clock management. They were down, you know, eight points and they go for two. And that's the analytics answer. You're supposed to do that when you're down because then you get another shot at it and you can win in regulation. And like it actually worked out. He played it as well as you possibly could. and for everyone calling him a dummy in the media and for everyone saying, well, why aren't you doing Hail Marys? And for him to get the clock management spot on and for it to actually work out, it's a nice little win for Aaron Glenn also.

1:22:06Like, hey, I know what I'm doing. Everyone relax. Like, I can do this. I thought that was pretty cool also.

1:22:10Pat McAfee:There's a coach we know that can do it. He's one of the coach of the year. He's got a team that has made a couple decisions, let a couple great QBs out the door. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, Schrags, as far as you know, are the Vikings still 100 % all-in gung-ho on J.J. McCarthy? because there's more stuff coming out now with Carson Wentz, them saying he broke a bone in his shoulder and he's playing with a torn rotator cuff since Ireland. So it's been a couple weeks now. And obviously we know J.J.'s soft benching that some people are saying. But then Kevin Seifert, he's the beat reporter for the Vikings for ESPN, he basically said, well, now we've got to see if it's J.J.

1:22:51McCarthy's team or could it potentially be Max Brosmer too. So like kind of weird that he's being mentioned in the same sentence. Like what's, what's the temperature in Minnesota? Is it still a hundred percent JJ McCarthy's team? Yes. And it has to be, there are two different things happening right now. One is what they let walk out of the building and Sam Darnold and not franchise tagging him and it's revisionist history, but we all conveniently forget the last eight days of Sam Darnold's career as a Minnesota Viking. Everyone afterwards like, well, yeah, You can't resign that guy after the way that he played against Detroit and against the Rams in the playoffs.

1:23:26Like, it's just not going to happen here. So that's revisionist. But it's also Daniel Jones was in the building. And they obviously traded up in the draft to get J.J. McCarthy when, you know, Bo Nix was drafted several pick or two picks later. So there's all these different things in play here. The truth of the matter is, I can't imagine any young quarterback in the league to have more pressure riding on him the rest of the way this season than McCarthy. He's 22 years old. He's played six quarters in his NFL career, basically two games. One of those quarters was good. And now you're basically saying, all right, with a high ankle sprain, go and save the season, lead us, and somehow justify us moving on from Darnold and Daniel Jones, who are both going to be in the MVP candidacy throughout the season.

1:24:08It is a huge mountain for this guy. And yet it's just what the job requires and what he has to do. He had this high standard when you come in and they say, we're going to rather have you than a guy who led us to a 14-3 record. He's now got to do that and then also overcome what Daniel Jones is doing in Indianapolis from a perception standpoint. But yes, this is JJ's team. They're all behind JJ. If Brosmer or Woodford plays, the reason is that JJ McCarthy just physically couldn't go. You heard that right. They signed the Wolf today. What? Yeah, practice squad. The Wolfman? Yeah, he's finally back.

1:24:43Ow! On Halloween week? Yeah, bingo. Ow! The pride of Wake Forest, who Kevin O 'Connell once coached in L.A. and has a familiarity. Oh, my God.

1:24:56Pat McAfee:It's not real until I see a Seaford tweet about it. Vikings have added a veteran quarterback in John Wolford. This man started over Jared Goff. He did a playoff game. In the Los Angeles Rams. I love the Wolf just as much as the rest of us. I don't know if you love him as much as me, just by the tone in what you're saying right now. I'm just saying, Brosmer could be a Purdy situation. Brosmer? Yeah. Could be a Lance Purdy situation. Wow. He was great for the Gophers last season. Well, Scott, you're my brother, especially in Minnesota. You got to do what you got to do. And you said there's a lot of pressure on JJ.

1:25:25Pat McAfee:I agree that there's a lot of pressure on JJ, especially because of all the outside factors and the injuries and everything that's taking place and how good we know that team is and the coaches. It's like you go back to that draft class, it's like Drake May is kind of carrying a team right now. You know, like he is a – He is a – I'm excited to see the story told. You know, they're already redrafting on TV. Oh, yeah. They're already redrafting that entire – I'm on these morning shows. We're doing redrafts. Can we change week to week? Yeah, legit. That's football in a nutshell. And on that note, feels like we're in a different time now than we were just a few weeks ago with the Dynasty.

1:25:57Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shrags, obviously after the Chiefs and Eagles started the season the way they started and, you know, they both just played in the Super Bowl, but still everyone was kind of killing them for a little bit. And now it feels like they're both hitting their stride. The Eagles have been the best that we've seen them. Jalen Hurts kind of clicking on all cylinders and the Chiefs with Rasheed Rice back is a massive problem. But do you think these two are going to go now? Do you think it is going to be a, hey, who can hold off the Chiefs, who can hold off the Eagles in both conferences?

1:26:27And those two, Veach and Howie Roseman, do you expect them to be as active as they typically are around this time? I think Howie is always looking to add assets, which is why I dismissed the A.J. Brown trade rumors out of pocket from the last three weeks, even as fervent as everyone might be that he's out, it's not going to happen this season. They have a good team going and they've got a star player in A.J. Brown. And if I've known Howie for 20 years, which I have, he doesn't trade away blue chip assets. He says, let's figure it out with these guys and let's give him more help to do it. I find both of these teams have really interesting games in the next couple of weeks.

1:27:05The Chiefs-Bills game is fascinating to me because we're already crowning the Chiefs. a loss though would then give them four losses in an AFC that's loaded an AFC West that has the Chargers that's still an undefeated team in the division and that suddenly puts them in that five six seven range where they have to go on the road in that throughout the playoffs now I am a company man with ESPN I just joined this place in March I just got here I can't sell you the importance sometimes of these Monday night matchups. I can't. But on week 10, we have an Eagles Packers Monday night football game with Troy and Joe in the booth and the Manning cast going on.

1:27:42I think it's the biggest matchup of the NFC this season. And if you add in the fact that the Packers are the team that made the tush push, you know, recommendation, and let's try to cripple these guys from what works then work. I think it's the game of the season in the NFC. and you've got two different teams, this Eagles team that's so like, gosh, there's so much friction. It's so rocky and everything on the outside seems like it's falling apart. And then you've got this Kumbaya Packers team that everyone loves and they just added Micah and couldn't go wrong. That to me and Bill's Chiefs this week, those are two monster games that are going to help dictate the rest of the seasons for both those Super Bowl participants from here.

1:28:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, you talk about the number one seed, number two seed for the NFC whenever you talk about the Packers and the Eagles. I mean, obviously that's a massive matchup in the middle of the season. That's exciting news. Monday Night Football? Yeah. I'm very happy about that being a Monday Night Football game all by itself. Let's go, boys. Shreg, you know we're fresh out the worst slate in the history of the NFL. Horrible. Horrible. 55 years, you've got to go back to see how bad the slate was. And the NFL, okay, 2080, we might have another bad one. Okay, we apologize. We had a Sunday into a Monday, and it just wasn't that good.

1:28:55Pat McAfee:We apologize. But if you were to look at what the slates were supposed to be going in the season, We had a lot of unpredictability this season. I think we got a good season going. I'm very, very thankful for it. And we appreciate the hell out of you, Shregs. You're kicking ass this fall, I think, with ESPN. Guys, my favorite thing is coming on with you. You guys are awesome. Thank you so much for giving me the platform, as always. Yeah, but how about whenever you're down or on a sideline Monday Night Football? That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. Super cool. Post-game wrap-up stuff, doing interviews.

1:29:19Pat McAfee:That's pretty cool stuff, isn't it? It's amazing. I'm loving ESPN. It's been cool. And to do all these different things is great. But I will say this. nothing beats shooting jump shots with you out for outside of that court in indianapolis could we do that again this spring that was so good yeah you know whatever brother i don't know if we'll be able to have yeah who knows what happens then but uh you know the draft i think shrags you being on our draft show was so cool for us we were very thankful you're on no legit our draft spectacular is obviously a big deal for us it is awesome an outrageous show because we only know first 10 guys and then there's four hours left you know and it seems like people really enjoy watching us just kind of get through it.

1:29:58Pat McAfee:And we've turned it into a spectacle. It's like a wrap to the season almost. It's become like our thing, almost a draft spectacular. Whenever we learned that you were available for the draft spectacular and you weren't being used anywhere else, we were so pumped. It's like, all right, got the spectacular figured out. What are we going to do? Toad and Schrags are going to be a room. And we had such a blast. Toad is the greatest wingman in that situation. I remember Gray Zabel gets drafted and we're doing flips over Gray Zabel. I'm like, we've made it. We've made it. This is it. And for us, on the set, there's a lot of, yep, got drafted.

1:30:32Pat McAfee:Let's send this over to Shrags and Tunes. And Gray Zabel has turned that Seahawks offensive line around. Yeah. He's amazing. But Pat, I would say this. The night before, getting dinner with you guys, not on camera, just hanging with the boys, AJ, of course, Mike McCarthy. That's a highlight for me as far as just camaraderie and culture and all that stuff, and I know that stuff matters to you as well. Yeah, well, we're lucky that you're a part of our family, brother. We appreciate you. ladies and gentlemen. Hey, enjoy Halloween. Don't be stealing any decorations. Peter Schrager. Yeah, man. Scatterboo.

1:31:04Pat McAfee:Love that. That's a great shirt, Schrager. That's a really good shirt. Who thought of that? Genius. Yes. Yes. It might have been Leo back in the day. Dumb man. You know, Cam Scatterboo's dad, Leo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every Halloween, he was probably like, hey, Leo Scatterboo. And there's probably so many. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? That is great marketing. Yeah, maybe even like a dad, I want to be a goblin this year. Shut up, Cam. You're a ghost always. Boo, bitch. Yeah, and he is a ghost, by the way, whenever he starts running. He's in play. Yeah, he's out there doing it. AJ, I don't know if you saw last night, World Series took place.

1:31:40Pat McAfee:And, you know, it was following literally the next night after an 18-inning World Series game. And guess what? They're playing again tonight. Now, I know the baseball season is every day we're playing baseball, Maybe even two times a day we got to do that. That thing being on Monday against Monday Night Football, no matter how shite the game is, I don't like it. Move it to Tuesday. The fact that they go 18 innings and then guess what? Next night we got to go nine again for the big prize. This is everything. There's only two teams left. I guess you can't just kind of pick and choose when you want to do things because of stadium's availability and all that shit.

1:32:13Pat McAfee:But the fact that they go 18 innings into last night, into it again, and this is for all the marbles, crazy. What happened last night? I saw Shohei. I saw him it was some good. Good vertical movement. Good horizontal movement. They're talking about the 36 inches he's got from the foreseam into the sinker and then the splitter and the sweeper. He's got all that stuff. He looked like he was a little tired, though, last night. What did we learn from that game last night? What happened in the game? Yeah, it was a very sleepy game, to say the least, which you can expect. I mean, most of these guys played 18 straight innings the night before.

1:32:46Like you mentioned, Shohei did have some very nice east-to-west horizontal break. Unfortunately, in the top of the third inning, he just didn't have enough vertical break. He hangs a sweeper to Vladimir Guerrero Jr., and he blasts a two-run homer to give the Blue Jays a 2-1 lead. And that's kind of all they needed. After this, it was death by a thousand cuts. It was Blue Jays baseball, just single, single, single, tough at bats. They don't strike out a whole bunch. So a lot of people saying, hey, Shohei really got tagged late. Is he all right? Well, you know, again. Long season. And he played 18 innings last night, and I also believe, hey, he just hit a two-run homer off maybe the greatest athlete of all time in the World Series in a must-win game.

1:33:35He could have fucking done the worm around the bases if he wanted to, and he was probably thinking about it.

1:33:41Pat McAfee:So you're saying that a little bit of a gait looks like there's a little bit of a limp on the left leg. It looks like it's either a hip or a knee maybe, kind of the way my eyes, untrained eyes looking at it. He seems to be having a bit of a limp there. You're saying, yeah, maybe add a limp to slow it down. Let's take this one in. Let's drink this down. This is World Series in Los Angeles. The stars are out. Did you see everybody that was there? Oh, yeah. Johnny Knoxville was there with a glove. Exactly. Johnny Knoxville was there with a glove. He was. Okay, so obviously, let's go ahead and take it.

1:34:08Pat McAfee:That's what you're saying could potentially be here. But also, long season. Vladdy could be a little bit, his bones could be saying, yeah, we only got a couple more of these. And there's also a chance, you know, playing in an 18-inning game, I don't know how many foul balls he had last night that just grazed off his shin. There could have been four or five of those in an 18-inning game. I would imagine, and it really showed in the play. It did. The 18-inning game was unbelievable, but these guys were just so gassed. Shohei's velocity was way down, and that's kind of what John Smoltz, who calls the game, he was saying early on, Otani is such a unicorn, and stealing bases is a massive part of it.

1:34:48but he probably wasn't going to run it all last night because he was going to need everything he had for his legs in order to pitch. So he didn't really get tagged, but he definitely didn't have his best stuff. He was 0-3 at the plate with two strikeouts. So it was one of those things where I personally didn't – I just thought after an 18-inning game, you use everybody on your team, you get beat. That was probably just like, how are the Blue Jays going to come back for this? But they're just – they're so damn scrappy. They're a tough out, and they outplayed the Dodgers last night. So 2-2 going into game five.

1:35:17Pat McAfee:We've got a battle in the World Series. I think this is good baseball. You know, you talked to Adam Silver about, hey, do you want the big markets in the finals? You know, Indiana, OKC. He's like, well, without Drew, Dallas, and Cleveland, they just want to see good competition. Feels like we're getting that out of this World Series, which we love. 32.6 million. 32.6 million global average. 12.8 million out of Japan. 19.8 million out of U.S. and Canada. That's a lot of eyes. That's good for baseball. And once again, Shohei Otani being as good as he is and as great as he is, even though last night he gets the L, it's like great for baseball.

1:35:53Pat McAfee:And all of a sudden, the Blue Jays are making this thing a series. Yeah. All of a sudden, they go in L.A. and do their thing. And Vladdy Dottie, he can barely run. Yeah, exactly. And he's just hitting bombs on Shohei. Good for baseball. We got another game tonight. All right. Let's go back to football. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, forget that audible. there's an icon joining us right now yes person joining us right now is uh uh first time author okay that book not on the desk right now i just realized as i looked down here now on that note got sent a couple copies because this man's a friend of the program he's also a man who has 105 million album sales.

1:36:38Damn.

1:36:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, and Billboard has done the stats. He has the most number one country music hits in the history of country music. He had a show at The Sphere, which was incredible. He'll have a show in your town. It'll be the best show that you go to every single year. He has songs that relate to people. He has songs that bring people together. He has songs that make people celebrate, and he has the stories behind them all. in his brand new first ever book, Heart, Life, and Music. Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Chesney. Yay, Kenny! How are you, brother? Oh, that was an intro. How you doing, man? Well, I apologize.

1:37:15Pat McAfee:I left the book at my desk over there. So that intro was going to be about as long as it took Bruce to go grab book and get it over here. But I want to let you know, we appreciate the copies that you sent to us. We are huge fans of yours, as you know, your music and everything about it. And this is beautiful. There's pictures in here from moments. I learned about Sixth Gear, okay, his first ever boat. I also learned about Hay Now and his first maiden voyage. I learned about other magical moments and kind of trying times in your life in here. What should people expect from your first book? And how excited are you to have this done and completed alongside going into the Country Music Hall of Fame?

1:37:49Well, I'm very excited to have it done and completed. But, yeah, I think that when people pick up this book, I'm going to take them on a journey to East Tennessee. sea. I'm going to take them on the bow of my boat in the Virgin Islands. I'm going to take them backstage. I'm going to take them all kinds of places. And Pat, this isn't a memoir, really. It's just postcards of my journey. And it's been full of music. It's been full of sports. It's been full of fun and friendship. I mean, you name it, man. I'm just very excited to have it out now.

1:38:20Pat McAfee:We're very thankful for your friendship. And obviously, sports love you. I think your songs have gotten a majority of people through a lot of things or brought a lot of people together. The book's available next Tuesday. You came through game day, crushed it, dude. Hey, you killed that. That wasn't your band either, right? That was kind of a mixed band. No, it was Dierks Bentley's band. My band was doing their own gig in Florida. Shout out to your band. Shout out to your band. I saw Derek on the guitar there far left had obviously a little solo in there to crush it. You murdered it there. It feels like live is what you love, right?

1:38:53Pat McAfee:That is literally - Oh, I love it. That is who you are? Yeah, I've been doing it a while now, but it's where I really feel comfortable in my skin. And I've done game day three or four times. I'm sorry I didn't get to see the other day, but it was fun doing it. Yeah, you were great for us. I want to let you know we're thankful that you did it. And if you get a chance to see Kenny Chesney live, you should certainly do that. Now, he's in stadiums and has been for like two decades. A lot of NFL connection with Kenny Chesney. AQ has a question for you, Kenny. Yeah, Kenny, it's been well documented that every time you go on tour and you travel to all these different places and do the stadiums and all that.

1:39:27You go into the team's facility and get a workout in. What is your favorite NFL weight room that you've worked out in? Oh, wow. The Cowboys facility is awfully nice. There's a lot of great ones. I mean, you know what, though? You can tell where the money is because the college ones are the nicest. I mean, they got money, and they're putting a lot of money in the weight rooms in college.

1:39:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, and they're also huge stadiums. You know, you've got 102 ,000. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah, 112 ,000, 115 ,000. These colleges are outrageous. And somehow, one man who sings that good shit can fill them all up. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Kenny, your longevity is unbelievable. The fact that you've been so good for so long, selling out stadiums still. I don't know. As you continue to keep playing, do you enjoy it now more than ever? I would imagine. Like I know all of us, as I age, I look back and think like, man, this is pretty awesome situation I'm in right now. I would imagine you have that moving forward, like every single time you maybe play a show.

1:40:30Yeah, I love it more than ever, really. And I've gotten to a point in my life where our life is a lot like a baseball season. And I start in the spring and I end in the fall. And I'm really particular about what I put in my body, you know, and I work out really hard. and I train a lot like an athlete to go do what I do. And so having that mindset, we play on a Thursday and a Saturday night when we do a stadium tour. And I feel better up there now than I ever have, honestly.

1:41:02Pat McAfee:Used to be just big time party, right? For you even maybe back in the day, I think we talked about. We had our sheriff on, Pat. Yeah, and it's obviously talked about in hard life and music as well, but it's a different animal now. Yeah, yeah, I got to a point. I think we've talked about it before. I've got to a point where I had to choose, right? I had to choose if I was going to party out on the road or do what I really love. And all of a sudden I got to a point in my life where I couldn't do both. So I chose to do what I really love. Cold tub on the road. I do. Yeah. You know, you're talking about like really taking care of yourself, but it shows in your performances, man, you give everything every single night.

1:41:40Pat McAfee:I think there's only a few, you know, performers that can really do that. I watched Taylor go for like three hours. Oh yeah. I mean, it was outrageous. Luke Combs. Luke Combs loses his mind on, like, there's different levels of this shit. Morgan runs, I mean, he runs like 700 yards, and you bring it every, I think that's a big deal. I think that's you showing appreciation to your fans. Do you agree with that? Well, oh, of course. The energy you get from the audience, you know, I think any entertainer will tell you, the artist you just mentioned, or whoever it is that's up there on stage, we give what the audience gives us.

1:42:15The more energy we get, the more energy we give. And that's how it's just sometimes it's like an avalanche coming at you and you can't stop it. And those are the nights that it's almost like an out of body experience. And I've been very fortunate over the years to have a lot of those nights and a lot of good people around me, you know, that that share the same vision and the same discipline and the work ethic. because it's like anything else. It's like a company or you guys working on the show. If you get somebody that's not in line with all of it, it's not great. And so we've worked really hard to have that, and I feel very fortunate to have a great group out there helping me.

1:42:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, great team. Obviously a bunch of road warriors. You're out there all the time, and you got a chance to kind of go inside and do something very special. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Kenny, we had the privilege of going to the Sphere once. It was awesome. unfortunately not for your show. You did the first run. What did you learn from that first run that you're going to bring to your second run? Did the sphere, did it surprise you at how cool it was even while you were doing shows? It was so cool, man. I mean, what it did, it forced me and the band to find different neural pathways in our brain when it comes to preparing for the show.

1:43:30When we go to a stadium tour or whatever, we know what that's like to go prepare for that. but this was a completely different animal. It was almost emotional in nature when you're up there with your band and your audience. And even if people have been, you know, living with your music for a while, they come into the sphere and hear it and they experience it in a completely different way. And it's just, it's just really incredible. So yeah, we're already working on next summer show because some of it's got to change. You know, it can't be the exact same thing. so if I went to somebody's show at the Sphere and went the next year and saw the exact same thing I wouldn't love it so we're in a process of changing you know almost half of it probably

1:44:15Pat McAfee:is the Sphere just going to become one of your like yearly homes like hey we'll just drop in do the Sphere we'll go and do some stadiums and we won't be able to I don't know that it would be all year you know like we've done last year in this coming summer but um it's definitely going going to be something hopefully that will go and play every now and then if we want you know i do in ways miss the energy of being up there you know and being in a different town every night um but trust me we should do we should do y 'all show from the sphere one morning yeah yes yes we should kenny it's a great thing to do man it's a great thing to be a part of yeah certainly i mean if you're gonna pay for that we will certainly do that yeah i'll pay for it yeah yeah we love that We love that.

1:44:57Pat McAfee:We love that. Maybe we'll get a hay now boat out of this thing as well. No question. Hey, there's something to think about here. I know we're brainstorming for the next sphere, and I don't know what you did the first time when we weren't able to see the show. I was trying to get out there. I wasn't able to get out there. I think you have, what, the biggest John Deere tractor of all time. Oh, man. She thinks my tractor's sexy. You lead off with that, don't you? That tractor's coming from up above, and that thing's pulling back there around. That thing's posing, maybe, flexing on the other side of it.

1:45:22Pat McAfee:And then you kind of lead off. Just something to think about. Hey, man. Hey, man, we'll take any kind of creative input you got. Just one big-ass John Theer just riding through that thing, you know, because she does. Her eyes do light up whenever she sees that thing. On that note, about how many songs that you have. You have so many songs. I listen to four Kenny Chesney songs a day probably, just in my algorithm because of the amount of songs that you have. So much different shit, but also kind of similar messaging. On that note, Ty, here's a question for you. Yeah, when it comes to that, Kenny, when it comes to new music and things like that, how difficult is it finding something new to say, I guess, because you have so many songs in the catalog?

1:46:04Or at this point in your career, do you not care about that? Is it just like, hey, I know where my bread's buttered and I'm going to kind of give the fans what they want? Well, I mean, that's a great question because you can't go and sing the exact same thing. You know, like if somebody gave me a song, let's just say somebody gave me a song just like No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problems. Well, I can't sing that song because I already have No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problems. But a brand new act, just brand new on the scene, if they get that song, then all of a sudden they're brilliant. But I can't sing that song.

1:46:40So the target is really thin for me when it comes to listening to music. and I mean I'm very thankful because very few artists get to a place where they compete with themselves when it comes to music and so that's where I am so it takes me, I get there but it takes me a little longer to find exactly what I want to say

1:47:00Pat McAfee:Song selection is crazy dude Song selection is absolutely crazy because for you you put out some shit out there I mean people are going to say Kenny, Kenny, Kenny But you have so many songs in so many albums you put out a new album we all know it from other artists right they go on a tour and they want to play their new album and everybody hates it so but you you put out a new album it's like more bangers are coming more bangers are coming you have a great eye or ear it seems like for well go ahead what i what i try to do is i almost edit myself to a fault because i when i'm listening to songs i try to put myself in the audience in the place of the audience and what's going to turn them on and what's going to make them want to enjoy their summer and what's going to move them in any way.

1:47:43And if you notice, I mean, like if I have ballads and I love to sing slow songs, but when you come to a show, you won't hear many of them because by the time we get on stage and by the time they're there, I don't want to take the chance of losing them. So we hit them, boom, really hard, constantly.

1:48:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, just tap it down. Drop it down. Drop it down. Get them going there. I like everything about it. Con Man has a question for you about some, you know, ball. Yeah, Kenny, I know a suggestion for the Sphere would do, just play the entire Boys of Fall music video. I think it's eight and a half minutes long. The Sean Payton speech, and it's amazing. We were watching it before the show. I mean, chills every single time. But speaking of football, how do we feel about the Vols this season? They got a big one against Oklahoma coming up. Still feels like they can make the college football playoffs.

1:48:33Where are you at as far as hopes go for the Tennessee Volunteers? Yeah, the Vols don't have very much wiggle room right now. But yeah, I got a big, you know, three games coming up that are pretty big, really big. And I'm pulling for them. But what about our Patriots? Oh, yeah. Our Patriots. You said it, right? You've got to be fired up. Drake May is the future, man. First of all, you need to go see Drake May. Just be like, hey, how do you get all this greatness? And you guys have got to change some greatness talking. Don't look now, Kenny, but we're going to get some pieces here. Miles Garrett might be a New England Patriot.

1:49:06Pat McAfee:So Cleveland Browns have come out and said, to Boston Connors report of Miles Garrett maybe being traded to the Patriots. There is no chance of that happening. But can you talk about your connection with the Patriots in Foxborough a little bit? Because I think you're obviously a Tennessee guy. I started playing there. My connection to New England has been really strong for a lot of years. But my first show at Gillette in Foxborough was in 2005. And it's just grown from there. And I've become great friends with Robert Kraft and Jonathan. and was good friends with Bill when he was there. And now I can't believe how great Vrabel's doing.

1:49:47I mean, I've been friends with Vrabel since he was a player in New England. And our friendship has grown over the years. And now here he is and has the Patriots. What are they, 5-2, 6-2? Something like that. Yeah, very good.

1:50:01Pat McAfee:6-2, baby. And they got a lot of money, Kenny. They're looking to maybe make a trade and go on a Super Bowl run, which is crazy to think because we all thought maybe the Patriots were dead. And then Rabel goes up there and Drake May is this wonder child. And all of a sudden the Patriots, but he's only 23. He's 23 years old, Drake May. It's outrageous. But Mike has a unique way of, I've been to his practices and I've been around him when he's in the zone. And he has this unique way of getting the most out of his players and a way of having the whole team take on his competitive nature and personality.

1:50:35and you see that happening right before our eyes. It's crazy to watch. I'm proud of him.

1:50:40Pat McAfee:Have you ever seen Vrabel smoke three cigarettes at the same time? Well, not at the same time, but I have seen him at shows and we did Boys of Fall one night in Columbus, Ohio and Vrabel and Herbstreet came up on stage in the middle of a song. And while I was singing, I'm back behind the mic and I'm back there singing the song and Vrabel starts walking down to the stage, high-fiving all the people. You know, it was hilarious. But, yeah, I've seen Mike backstage at shows. So it sounds like he grabbed a beer maybe and you're just walking down the street. I don't want to give away too much here is what you just said.

1:51:17Pat McAfee:Middle of story is what I just heard happen. Yeah, he had a little bit of grandpa's cough medicine. Hell yeah. Yeah, as he should. Speaking of Columbus, Ohio, Ohio State legend, A.J. Hawk has the last question for you here, Kenny. Yeah, Kenny, I mean, you talk about Braves. It's hard not to keep following up on Braves. I've been to a Toby Keith concert with Braves when I was in college. Braves kind of hosted us, and we went RIP, Toby. It was amazing. Did you ever think of hiring Braves to come out? We saw J.J. Watt tackle a guy on stage one time. Were you ever worried that was going to happen with Braves?

1:51:46Well, I mean, I thought about hiring him last year when he didn't have nothing to do. But, you know, he could come out and sell T-shirts for me. Yeah, Braves could see. Yeah, good idea. He would. He'd be great. But Braves is always, look, it kind of goes back to what I was saying about the team this year. I mean, Mike Vrabel is great for morale. He's just great. And so he's just a great friend and great to be around. And you can see that, like I said, you can see his mentality and his positive energy just, it's just infectious. And I'm very proud for what they're doing up there.

1:52:21Pat McAfee:I'm very proud of you getting your first book done alongside Holly Gleason. You get photos that you've probably never seen before from Kenny. That boat right up there, hey, now. This boat down here, six gear. This up here is just him hanging out with nothing but the ocean to see. A lot of behind-the-scenes photos in the book that's available next Tuesday called Heart, Life, and Music. Tickets to his next Sphere Round available this Friday. Hell, yeah. Boys of Fall documentary brought to you by SportsCenter with appearances by Sean Payton and a list of other football legends available now. Kenny, you're the man.

1:52:51Pat McAfee:We can't wait to see you back on the road. Thank you for having me, guys. I appreciate you. You're the best. ladies and gentlemen, that's Kenny Chaz. Yeah, Kenny! Sean Payton, Bobby Biden, Joe Namath, Bill Parcells, Nick Saban, John Gruden, Tony Dungy. All a part of that Boys of Fall documentary. Damn. Yeah, he is, his songs, you know, because country, you know, you can talk about, you got heartbreak, you know, you got other stuff going on. Kenny's giving life lessons in there. You got life mindset lessons that are disguised as, can't we all get along? You know, he's buying a boat in there and everything.

1:53:23Pat McAfee:but then the actual messaging of the song is like, hey, we got a life to live here. Let's not be kind of dragged down by other bullshit that you can't control. So I think a lot of sports people love Kenny for good reason. I am one of them. I think AJ is as well. So we're thankful he stopped by. On that note, we'll continue digitally where we got AQ's takeaways. Not just taking aways. Those are still gone. And then also top five performing offensive lines from week eight of the NFL season. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. I feel like we really nailed that.

1:53:54Pat McAfee:Yep, boom. I feel like we really nailed that. AQ, it's on the other side of this break, it's all AQ time. Yeah. Are you worried about that at all? Do you feel good about that? Have you been preparing for that? We just had Kenny Chesney on, then it's AQ time. I'm ready. Oh, and also, shit, Stanford Steve story. Oh!

1:54:17Pat McAfee:Hello, beautiful people. and welcome back to our Humble the Bone, the Thunderdome on this Watt Wednesday. I'm so excited about that. 2025, Hour 3 of the program begins now. Football! It's magical. That's A.J. Hawk. The Toxic Table's here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Love the hat. Thank you, yeah. It felt like a Wednesday hat. You know, J.J. Watt's on. The trenches. But not... Oh, yes. That's a 12-year NFL vet. Super Bowl champion AQ Ship. We'll go in the trenches later today for the top five offensive lines. That was a very clear, I'll fucking kill you. Now, the thought about that is he's on edge a little bit.

1:55:00Pat McAfee:Yeah. He's on edge a little bit with what happened to those decorations. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys AP tone. Odds on him getting any of those things back if you were to score it or handicap that at this moment here, Tone? I think they're raising by the moment. you know originally I thought there was no chance but now that we've talked about it on the show a good bit and I think potentially there's a chance he shows up with a note on his door that says hey we will give him back we need him for our Halloween party but until then they're ours yeah so November 1st we will get you these back we got a lit Halloween party bro and you happen to have the best decorations on our campus so we'll get them back to you later we hope that takes place nonetheless we hope your Halloween isn't spoiled because of these boys That's if I don't find the coordinates first.

1:55:46If I find out the coordinates, that skeleton will be there. You put an air tag. Didn't you put an air tag on that thing? You could track those kids down. Yeah, I should have done that.

1:55:54Pat McAfee:I don't. Whoa, whoa, you did do that, remember? I did do that. Yeah, you did. Yeah, that's how you're going to find their coordinates, not illegal technology. No, that maybe. He's got, he's exhausting all resources. Yeah, he went all the way to the top. Well, that's a special thing. Yeah, you do jujitsu with billionaires in a basement, I would assume they have some connections. And what else did he go do when he went out in the woods? Remember? Remember his AQ Shipley super duper military man? Remember that little run he had? Oh my goodness, yeah. Oh, you know all kinds of people, AQ. Yeah. You remember who he was in those woods with?

1:56:25Pat McAfee:The people. Yes, you say all kinds of people. What type of people are those people? The people that take out bad people. They all saw his Instagram story and said, excuse me? This ain't right. Who did this? And then AQ was like, I know my daughter loves us. And they're like, no, no, didn't fight for that. You know, that's basically what happened in this entire thing. And I genuinely, I've said this multiple times, just from hearing the behind-the-scenes conversations that are taking place, these boys have no idea that they happened to do this. You don't think? I think it's a random hit. I think they saw the decorations.

1:56:57Pat McAfee:I don't think they knew it was A.Q. Shipley. Now, on that note, I don't think they know A.Q. Shipley either. If they did and heard everything that we heard and all the resources that are potentially being used right now, I think they would have maybe just said, you know what, that is really sweet decorations. What are they going to do with this stuff, though? They can't go put it up in their yard. In the house. Yeah. It's going to be the frat house. You got a house with a 30-foot ceiling? Look at that. Whatever. He's frat house. He's frat house. He's a frat brother. All right, good. AQ, you know, AQ's got to walk frat house row with a bat in his hand and just go in there blasting everybody.

1:57:29Pat McAfee:And a gun, too, right? To Arizona? Yeah. Okay, so on that note, I've forgotten a couple messages since we debuted this entire situation on ESPN from a couple people. former frat president i'd send fucking freshmen out to go steal people's decorations every year bro that's that's what it was told so 100 that thing is at a university if it is local is what i was told by a couple of different frat bros now i get thrown in the frat bro world i was never in a frat but i understand i do have fuck boy white look so you assume i do i do happen to know a lot of frat bros that is something they said guaranteed that was those pledges that's what they were doing Hey, you want to be?

1:58:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, go find some good ones. And those boys came back. We got them. We hit the mother load. They're the kings. I also got a message that GCU is a Christian university, no Greek life. So guess what? Narrowed down to one university. Tempe, Arizona, here I come. Okay. Arizona State. Yep. What if they're high schoolers? They could be high school kids. I don't know. High school kids, where are they going to put them? Got nowhere to stash it, yeah. You don't have no plan. You just want to take it. That's the thing. Like, nowhere. What do you mean? These boys got a plan. What do you think? Is that the ball of a flag or something?

1:58:39They're going to sell it on the black market. They'll sell it to somebody else.

1:58:42Pat McAfee:I didn't even think about them potentially trying to sell it on Facebook. Those skeletons do sell out. They sell out quickly. You need to go to Facebook marketplace. All day yesterday, all over, and offer up. What's the reward? What's the reward if we find any information? What'd you say? $10 ,000? Yeah, 100%. $10 ,000, which is about the amount of money that's spent on the thing. So you, frat bro, I know that you probably kind of weave your way up the entire corporate chain over there, fraternity chain. But you could potentially get$10 ,000 too. Any information that leads to the return of Mr.

1:59:13Pat McAfee:Skeleton, who is loved by the Shipley family. Loved. We won't even talk about what you did to the other one. No. Broke his legs. Yeah, exactly. Fucking removed his spine from the head. Can't have it. Can't have it. Severed. We need Mr. Skelly back for the Shipley family. And there's$10 ,000 to the tip that leads to Mr. Skeleton's return. All right. Good luck out there. Be good humans. Be good humans. With like Tressus again, I had no idea this generation still had this in him. Sounds like the frappros said, hey, we've always had you. We got fucking lit parties. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man whose brain is so fucking big, isn't it?

1:59:52Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. It ate up all the hair follicles. his brain. That would have been huge, too. He laughed right away. It's a compliment. It's true. It is a compliment. That just came out. I apologize. There wasn't a lot of thought behind that. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another college football convo with Stanford Steve. Your brain ate up all the hair follicles from the inside out. It was kind of an attack of your intelligence, you know, on the hair there. Thank you for joining us. I got nothing. Yeah, me neither. I'll tell you what, I don't know where it came from. Steve, huge weekend. We're heading out to Utah.

2:00:30Pat McAfee:First Big 12 game for college game day in a year and a half, two years, whatever it is. Excited to get out there. Electrifying environment the last time we were there. This game, I mean, the slate is what it is. You know, the last two weeks, I think there's been interesting slate conversation. College football will still deliver. This game, though, huge, I think, for the outcome of the Big 12 as a whole. Stanford, Steve, is that how you're viewing Cincy, Utah right now? And how should we be looking at it? Yeah, I'm fired up to get to see Cincinnati. They've been a great story. I'd love to run through some names with AJ on that O-line, their interior O-line, which I think is a top five unit in the sport.

2:01:07A bunch of Ohio guys, Xenia High, Wayne High, Versailles. Sorry, not great pronunciations. But it starts and ends with this guy right here. Brendan Swordsby has been unbelievable. Since week one, this offense is fifth in the country at 41 points per game. first in the country in yards per play at 7.7, and third in the country at an explosive play rate. They've been awesome. It's because of the offensive line and that guy, Sorsby, who's going to get a shot at the next level. He's a transfer from Indiana. He's 240 pounds. He's accounted for 27 touchdowns and one interception, which was a pretty costly interception because that was at the end of the Nebraska game.

2:01:47But this team has all the goods. They're plus 700 to win the Big 12, and they got this game in Salt Lake City. They get Provo to come to them, and they end the season at TCU. I think they have all the makings of being a playoff team, Pat.

2:02:01Pat McAfee:The state of Cincinnati obviously back. They lose to Nebraska in a neutral site opening week at Kansas City, I believe. Yep. And everybody just says, yep, this is exactly what we thought. Since then, Soresby's led the boys all the way back. Huge one in Utah. What did he miss there, Tom? I mean, Steve said just for Soresby, 27 touchdowns to one interception is just absurd. Their whole running game in general is absurd. They are incredible on the ground. These two teams kind of mock each other. They both love to run the ball with running quarterbacks. My question for you, Steve, because I haven't been able to find it on the Internet yet, and my main takeaway is last week Devin Dampere did not play.

2:02:39It was true freshman Bird Ficklin who ran for 150 yards, had three total touchdowns. Do we know if we're going to get Dampere or if we're going to get the true freshman Bird Ficklin? What a name. What compounds this tone is going back. We've had all the issues with trying to figure out the Cam Rising quarterback situation right at Utah. Coach Wick keeps everything close to the vest. And now you – I'm not sure they know who's going to play, so we're definitely not going to know. I'm sure the authority family has every single button pressed to try and get this. Coach never gives that out either.

2:03:16Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know, knowing that we're going to be there too. It's a 10-15 Eastern game. So Utah has been plenty hard to figure this out in years past, and I think this is only going to get tougher as we get closer to Saturday night.

2:03:32Pat McAfee:The mighty Utah student section, right? The must is what it is. Their record at home is insane. Do you think Cincinnati's got the bill to go into a Utah and get a dub? I don't want you to make a pick here, obviously, ahead of time here, but is this a game that could obviously go Cincinnati's way? It sounds like you were leaning that way earlier in your first answer. Absolutely, because I think that offensive line is going to travel, Pat. I think they're that legit. They're nasty. Against Baylor last week, Baylor, you know how high-flying offense. Spencer, a quarterback, who's an NFL guy. Eight drives, 56 plays.

2:04:06That's all they had the ball for, Baylor. Cincinnati does a great job on offense, and I think that's going to travel and bode well for them and in monster, monster spots. I mentioned the game time's tough for an East Coast team to go out there, but we're going to be in November by Saturday. Nobody wants to hear all the BS. They want to see teams play well. Cincinnati has the goods.

2:04:26Pat McAfee:Have a great Halloween. We'll see you on Saturday and November. They're 2-0 in home night games this season, Utah. They're outscoring their opponents at night, 95-17 out there. Tough place to play. Cincinnati might have the goods. What else should we be looking at this college football weekend, Stanford Steve? I was just looking at the preseason rankings and remembering when the rankings came out. November 1st was a day, right? So going back and reading stuff. We were supposed to have seven top 25 matchups this week according to the preseason rankings. So that just shows you the volatility. Penn State, Ohio State was two versus three before the season started.

2:05:11What's great about this sport, but all those teams, You know, we're supposed to have numbers against them, and then we end up in Salt Lake City for, you know, a matchup with two teams that, listen, Big 12, say what you want. Arizona State put the scare of death in Texas last year. It's a good conference. It's absolutely wide open. And what's good about the Big 12 is we're going to have a bunch of these teams play each other down the stretch here where we're not going to get in the ACC.

2:05:37Pat McAfee:Let's talk about the SEC having to battle against each other towards the end of this whole thing. Obviously, you've got Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma. Vandy, Texas is a gigantic game. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Stanford, Steve, I'm surprised you chose to bring game day to Utah since you decide those things. But looking at – which is just crazy. I'm sure BYU. Denton, Texas, too, would have been sick. Obviously, the Holy War a couple weeks ago, if Steve says let's go there, we'd probably end up going there. Now, Utah has been very kind to us and obviously an incredible game. But Steve said, no, no, let's not go to the Holy War.

2:06:09Pat McAfee:Let's go to Ole Miss, Georgia. let's go out to Utah, Cincinnati. Yeah, clearly some biases against the BYU Mormons, kind of weird coming from a Stanford guy, but they love the high horse, so you know how it is. He's still a quarterback. Whatever, Steve. Look, you can spin it whatever way you want. We know you decide where game day goes. Let's start that, by the way. Stanford Steve decides where game day goes. Ain't that right, Steve? Not true. Oh, no! Steve, you're being humble right now. Not true at all. Not even close. I'll tell you what, I get messages as if I decide. Yeah, right. Have you read the stories about me and the people that actually decide?

2:06:45Pat McAfee:I think I'm way at the bottom. Steve, probably above me. But on that note, we do not make that decision. And we're sitting in the pocket on the internet. And I just got these college kids. You fucking sell out corporate piece of shit. I'm like, I would have loved to come to Denton, Texas. You don't think I would have loved to come down to Navy, North Texas? I would have absolutely loved it. And on that note, there it is. Bingo. We would love to go to that game. Each week, though, there is difficulty. And also, can't stress this enough, being a part of a game or a part of a show that people want is like a very, very cool thing.

2:07:19Pat McAfee:But these are not easy decisions each week. Getting back to Utah is awesome, I think. Yeah. And Steve, thank you for making that happen to us. And Utah is beautiful this time of year. It's kind of like around when we went the first time. It is gorgeous in Utah right now. But, Steve, looking at the weekend, Vandy-Texas kind of seems to be damn near a playoff game. If Vandy wins, it feels as though, you know, they got Tennessee in the last week. But aside from that, Vandy might, you know, that might be enough, especially if they only have one loss going into Tennessee. And then on the other side, you know, Texas.

2:07:50If Texas continues to win, there's a chance they creep back up into that top 12. What do you think about that game? Do you see kind of the under, the over-under looks like 44.5? If I'm reading that correctly, that's pretty low. How do you see that one going? And should we really start thinking about Vandy being a college football playoff team? Absolutely. I think they're a better football team than Texas is right now. And I saw Sark had Arch out there at practice today, but he's still going under concussion protocol. And they get Michael Taft, the safety, who really holds that defense together.

2:08:23But being on the field last week with Vandy, Everybody's going to say it's an ugly game, whatever. It was physical. Missouri's not a bad football team either. They got some – I mean, Jeremiah Trotter's son is an absolute thud at linebacker, and there were some major, major delusions in that game, which was great to see. But Vanderbilt is – I look at them as a playoff team. They got a tough stretch ahead of them, you know, with the road game, as you mentioned, in Austin. And then, I mean, if that game in Knoxville is ever for a playoff spot, I mean, those two schools, it's big brother, little brother.

2:08:57But that'll be – I mean, in Neyland, that would be insane if we got that for a possible play-in game to the playoff. But, yeah, I still think Vanderbilt – I like Vanderbilt this week against Texas. All around, lines of scrimmage, quarterback play, it sides to me with Vandy.

2:09:14Pat McAfee:Hey, they were good to us down there at game day, brother. I think Vandy people were. That crowd showed up. A lot of alumni showed up too. It was very obvious people just associated with Vandy showed up for game day, wanted to represent for us. They had people in houses. I don't know what the hell that was. And then walkways, people were standing everywhere. We're very appreciative of that. They felt, I don't want to say obligated, but it did feel like they were putting an extra effort to show up for game day. They were thankful we were there. That was a very cool feeling. And then Diego Pavia and Clark Lee, what they have done with that entire culture is they expect to win these games, Steve.

2:09:46Pat McAfee:Very quickly, they have expected to win these games. Yeah, I also go back, Pat, to the field goal. The intensity when we finally got through, thank the Lord we're using bike racks now, because if we were still in the old ropes days, that would have been complete mayhem. Complete, because you had the band tucked into the stairs, and there was really nowhere to go, and then everybody from the set came back up, and I was like walking into the old gladiator thing. You're walking through the path, and then boom, it pops, and the intensity was just incredible. Unbelievable moment, obviously, that you provide with that kick.

2:10:23No, no. It lived up to the hype big time.

2:10:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, Tyler Huang with the best kick we've ever had. By far. By far the best kick we've ever had. In socks. In socks, obviously, with great vibes. He was there all night. A dude running on like an hour of sleep, two hours of sleep, whatever it is, sleeping outside these people that are a part of this. And even though he was a kicker, by the way, had to win that. Yes. Yeah. Guys, you know what I'm saying, AJ. You know what I'm saying? The guy's wearing socks. I'm for sure you're going to fall down on that one. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to win that. We are going to be higher. I was trying to get everybody in my life that was trying to go up for one.

2:10:58Pat McAfee:I'm trying to beat them, too. If your hips are above their hips, you win. That is what that basically is. So, Steve, if we ever go up for one of those, no, I am trying to win. Yeah, I – Okay. Yeah, I – I never knew it was a competition. Oh, yeah, brother. Yeah, it ain't certainly – because if you get dunked on there, you don't want to get posterized in one of those. Tyler kind of got posterized there. But in that moment, he was in socks, and I don't think he knew he was going for it. AJ, do you know what I'm referring to here? Yes? Yeah, of course I do. That's right, yeah. If you know you're going to be outmatched, you just don't go up with the guy.

2:11:28Like, I'm not going up with D-Butt. D-Butt points up, nah, I'm good. Oh, you've got to early jump him.

2:11:33Pat McAfee:So you've got to early jump him. This is like whenever you go in for, like, a handshake with Adrian Peterson. You've got to get in tight quick, and you've got to attack him. If you're going up with D-Butt, you've got to get early and up to him quick so he's not at his apex. You cannot let him float up there because then you're looking up at this thing, and all of a sudden, that's when you start to fall. That's when you don't want to fall after, because he's hovering over top of you. Yeah, that is just... That's not a situation you want to be in. So Tyler Huang, whenever he went up, I quickly surveyed the scene, saw socks.

2:12:04Pat McAfee:I was like, all right, I got him here pretty good. But also, what if he fucking... Yeah, he's got bunnies. Yeah, I had no idea because how explosive he was on that kick. I love that kid. That kid was sick. Sarah Fuller, too, thank you for coming through. Yeah. She, legendary story from years back. She took a lot of shit from a lot of people on the internet. Three-time SEC champion as a goalie. I think now she's doing, like, business advertising. Yeah, for NIL. Yeah, she's a beast. Sarah Fuller, absolute beast. And Tyler Huang making a kick. And what a magical moment down there in Vandy. Can it continue?

2:12:32Pat McAfee:I don't know. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, that's a good question. Steve, I was looking at that slate right there, and I saw USC-Nebraska stood out to me. Both teams have two losses. Is this a ipso facto elimination game for both teams? Yeah, you would think so. When you look at both resumes, the lack of wins, I mean, SC has the win over Michigan that could possibly get better if Michigan runs the table, and Nebraska's still looking for that moment. They do have the win over Cincinnati out of conference, but Nebraska needs to do some work in conference if they're going to make a trip. I mean, it's just so tough, and it seems so far away.

2:13:09And when you look at Indiana and Ohio State for what they've done, how impressive they've been on the field and what they've done in their moments to beat the brakes off of teams they've done it. As dominant two teams as we have in the country and it's pretty impressive and it seems like a really far ride to get up to those two teams.

2:13:30Pat McAfee:I loved Desmond Howard's take on Ohio State though because he's a Michigan man obviously so he is going to do what he's going to do but him saying do we know? Okay I guess we know. Alright I guess we know they're because they have they've made it all look very easy in texas obviously was a close game first game for both of them in texas would go on to be who texas is so it's like i guess ohio state you can make that argument and des certainly like i'm not saying they're not a good team i'm just saying like how do we really know and they're not going to really get tested you know ohio state's not really michigan's last game of the year what is michigan we'll see by then and then they're going to get in the playoffs not giving up uh a touchdown in more than two games maybe so it's like what a dominating performance and there has been things in the past where the dominant teams just dominate like hey they are just a dominating team but i am excited i think we all are to see what they have in a massive massive game we haven't even really talked about them on game day which i fucking hate but it's because there hasn't been a lot of situations to really bring them up the big 10 though has been a talking point go ahead ty yeah steve where we sit right now you know because everyone's kind of saying hey the big 10 is going to be a three-bid league.

2:14:37That's just kind of how it is, unfortunately. What do you think the odds are, though, that as we get closer to this that a fourth Big Ten team is going to kind of show themselves and slide into the dance?

2:14:51Pat McAfee:Who are you talking about, Ty? I'm talking specifically about the Iowa Hawkeyes. Correct. Absolutely. It's a monster bye week. We've got to put in some more punt returns for touchdowns. They are electric. They destroyed me last week with Minnesota. With pleasure. Grinowski, that game was over at the middle of the second quarter. To me, the 3-4 team tie, Iowa's the team because they have the games available ahead. Obviously, everybody points to that game against Oregon next week at home, but when you look at the two losses and what they're going to be stacked up against, to Pat's point with the SEC teams playing everybody, you look at Illinois falling off last week when they lost to Washington.

2:15:34Washington has had a chance to go to Michigan. They lose. Iowa's sitting there because when you look at Oregon, Oregon still has a trip to Kinnick. They still have a trip to Husky Stadium, and they have to play USC at home. Oregon's not out of this thing by a lot. So I look at the possibility of three and four teams. To me, it would have to be Iowa and USC or possibly Michigan if they were still to run the table here and be Michigan. But I'm not counting out the idea of four teams from the Big Ten because, again, the SEC beats up everybody else. You don't know how the Big 12 is going to play out.

2:16:11If somebody wins – BYU runs the table, that could be a one-bid league. So that would be in favor of getting an extra team in from the Big Ten. But, yeah, monster bye week and Oregon at Kinnick. Have we got a kickoff time for that one yet? Not yet. Confirmed not a night game, though. Is that good or bad? Um, honestly, I don't know if it matters. I really don't. Why? Well, I mean, like, yeah, you'd prefer it be it. And I think playing at home, I think Kinnick is a massive home field advantage. Just regardless. Yeah, no matter what. Night awesome, but also noon. But like you said, those central noon games, like, you can get lulled to sleep, you know.

2:16:50Pat McAfee:I guess it's 11 o 'clock central or whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. And then Oregon, that's 9 a.m. I guess, yeah, 9 a.m. local. Right. Not that they're not used to it. and Dan Lanning does not give a shit about that excuse, and I respect that out of Dan Lanning. He's seemingly the only one that hasn't been like, ah, we signed up to be at a conference. It's six hours away, and we got to travel six hours every time. He's the only one not saying that. Right, which I appreciate that, but I also have seen people looking ahead at the weather, and there's a chance that it could be just a prototypical, like really cold, a lot of flurries, which would definitely play into Iowa's hand quite a bit.

2:17:28Pat McAfee:Well, and that's also what we talked about with those West Coast teams. Not that Oregon has perfect weather. They certainly have a lot of rain and can deal with that whole thing. But the thought was like, hey, this USC team's good. Wait until they got to travel to Illinois at a 9 a.m. local in November, whenever it's up. Can they get up for that game? Or Northwestern or one of these others. Iowa just so happened to be the place, hopefully, for in their eyes against Oregon in a couple weeks. And I'll let you know that although he picked Minnesota, whenever right before said seg about picking the next Big Ten team on game day, Stanford Steve drops in my ear.

2:18:00Pat McAfee:I have a direct to Stanford Steve. He goes, who are you picking here? And I go, I have no fucking idea. Iowa, I guess. I'm probably going to do Iowa. And he goes, to your point. And he drops it. He has like, he is a fan of Iowa. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he is a, Steve is an Iowa fan. Because literally within half a second of me saying maybe Iowa, he goes, boom, Oregon. I got Minnesota. Then he got Oregon after the bye week. and then also if you look at Kronowski, what he's doing, I'm like, thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. So he is an Iowa fan, even though he won against you guys, I will say. At no point did I say Minnesota was going to win the game.

2:18:31You didn't. I just thought eight and a half points was too many. That's all.

2:18:34Pat McAfee:Now, you pick the places the game day goes. Yep. And when you pick the spread, you're picking the team as well. We all know that's how that goes. Now, speaking of picking things, we asked you to put together a Heisman list. Now, this is in no particular order, but we would like an order maybe if you could potentially tell us. You've got these five guys in the Heisman conversation. Who do you like the most, or is it literally anybody's ballgame? Oh, that's the order. I have Marcel at the top. I have Mendoza second, Ty third. Jeremiah Smith, best player in the sport, fourth. And Horvath, it was tough.

2:19:09I looked at Jeremiah Love. Horvath has more rushing yards. He's a quarterback. He's still worthy. We're going to learn a lot more about Navy as they ramp up this schedule in the American playing against Notre Dame. But I think that the way Marcel Reed does things, the way he got himself out of trouble, that second half, I mean, that's the best game he ever played in that uniform, and he still had a pick in the end zone. Like, they could have had another touchdown in that game. His weapons are fantastic, but his elusiveness and how he – you know, the accuracy. We saw what he did at Notre Dame. You know, everybody wants to talk about that.

2:19:45He still let him down the field. I love what he brings to the table. And I have him as the front runner now.

2:19:52Pat McAfee:Whenever he started playing for Texas A &M, everybody said, man, this guy is upside, huge, huge, huge, huge. We're at it. We're finding it, aren't we? We're there. And it's not just him, that team. Defense coming together, obviously becoming the best on third down in the entire country at the beginning of the year. They weren't, but we all assumed that Elko's defense would find shape. They have. On offense, they have weapons, and their offensive line moves. And they have a real home field advantage as well. It's like Texas A &M, only undefeated team left in the SEC. They're for real, brother Toad.

2:20:21Yeah, they are absolutely for real. We've talked about it.

2:20:23Pat McAfee:Why not Marcel Reed with the Heisman? That would be crazy, Texas A &M winning the Heisman in 2025. He's got the numbers. They score 40 points almost every single game. I mean, the only guy that I'm just doing research for this weekend, Sorsby's got 27 touchdowns, so one interception. He left Pavia off the list. People aren't going to be happy with that. Tritted at Chambliss still has a lot of games left. Winning that Chambliss still has a lot of games left. Go ahead, Steve. Yeah. It's a great list. Javier, the loss. Two turnovers inside the 10-yard line. Heisman Trophy winners can't do that. Now he has moved.

2:20:59It's true. Love that, Steve. Don't worry. His brothers found me after the show and wanted to know what my thoughts were. So I talked to them. Like the Jokic brothers?

2:21:08Pat McAfee:Yes, they are. They were right over our shoulders. Like literally, when I was doing the baseball thing over at that set, the side well I don't know what they're fucking called what are the two things called the one that's closest to the main set what's that thing called? The demo field it's a demo field obviously when we're out there we interview the coaches we got the thing up there Kirk and Saban were doing film at the Zotron? there it is the Zotron that's what I'm talking about Steve that's what I'm talking about Steve at the Zotron which is tough walk this past week I mean it was you're going through it You were going through it.

2:21:42Pat McAfee:I mean, the Vanderpilt were very nice, but that thing, that was way back there. It was great to see everybody. So while Kirk and Nick are doing that, we're on the demo field. Yeah. Let's learn the name of. And that's right in front of those bleachers that you guys see. They're brought to you. The Old Dominion Freightline bleachers. There it is. Boom. The baseball team's all right there. Okay. So the Vandy boys are just sitting there having a good time. So they're like, what, seven to eight feet away from me at that time. And I'm just standing there watching this thing. And then obviously I turn around.

2:22:09Pat McAfee:and then you got the Pavia brothers standing right behind them. Literally like two rows behind them just standing there. And then every time Dez did a full breakdown on the defense and what they were going to do in Missouri's defense, you just saw the Pavia brothers behind them. Like literally going like this in real time. They were right behind the Vandy boys there. That was a special place there. And you're right, the Pavia boys will find you. They're awesome. I was telling those Vandy boys that if I was to get them with one of these, okay? That's a great video. I'm striking them all the fuck out.

2:22:40Pat McAfee:That's what I just told them. All of you, the fuck out. I said, my vertical movement. My vertical movement. I got 36 inches of vertical movement. Your balance point right there, unbelievable. A balk. A balk? Yeah, right. No. You're pausing for three seconds on one leg. That's his balance point. That's my routine. This isn't from the stretch, obviously. You ever seen Hideo Novo pitch? Yeah, I mean, why you got to be such an asshole? I'm Jose Contesto. I'm doing those in snakeskins, by the way, just so we all want to demo the field. But on that note, as I was standing there, I was like, wow, pretty good balance out of me right now.

2:23:17Pat McAfee:Like, I was actually, like, pretty excited about how I was kind of sturdy with the ground, felt like I had a good base. I was actually – the time you saw me pitch was when I was about to fall. So, that was my body deciding what was right for me. And I don't think that's a balk at all. That sounds like the most natural move of all time, age. And maybe this is what Shohei needs to start doing. Yeah, maybe. That's what I'm thinking about. Throw the timing off a little bit. Single leg squat, and then you get that vertical horizontal movement. You know that 36 inches, this guy. Yeah. Four-seam fastball.

2:23:49Pat McAfee:Sinker goes down the under. 36 inches. That's a ball. You don't count for after an 18-inning game. Yeah. Is that thing going 36, though? I saw a lot of it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The sweeper he threw for the homer. That looked more like 14 inches of vertical break. Not even. Oh. Five inches at least. Steve, you know what we're talking about. Let's go to another question about college ball. AQ has one. You know, these jobs that are open seemingly becoming pretty prevalent. Who the fuck's taking them all? Go ahead. Thank you. Yeah, that's a great question. We have a lot of job openings, and it seemed as if when Coach James Franklin was on the set of game day with you guys a couple weeks ago.

2:24:29You loved. He wants to coach, and he wants to coach again soon. Any news on him? I do not have any news on him. As far as the jobs, AQ, it feels like the people that have been in the business of coaching and cover it feel like the LSU is the number one thing. So whoever's the number one person that they're going to go after. and I feel establishing a pecking order. I don't know where he ranks as far as what schools feel like and fits. That's everybody's new favorite word with Brian Kelly not fitting at LSU. So that's come back full circle with who fits where. You know what that meant. You say that's a new word.

2:25:16Pat McAfee:That's not a new word. We all knew what that meant. Family, we saw it. We heard it. No, no, no. I was just saying the fit word everybody's using this week, just it's come back. I think, is there any other way to describe it? That ain't going to work. Like, at this time, you know, when that happened, when that happened, we weren't as well-versed, I don't think, in college football as we are now. No. Right? I don't think at that stage, this particular program, not you, Stanford Steve, you obviously have been in there for a long, this particular program, myself included, I don't think we were on a place to give, like, a real opinion.

2:25:47Pat McAfee:We were just like, Brian Kelly's a good football coach. He'll figure it out. And he got five stars falling out of trees down there. That's literally what Nick Saban said. And why is it such a good job? I heard a lot of people say why there. Three coaches won a national championship down there, three different eras. Nick Saban, the Mad Hatter. Last Miles. Or Orjohn. And whenever those three are able to win a national championship, maybe those two are able to win that. You start thinking to yourself, hey, this place might be able to have enough talent to go on and win it, which is why I thought Brian Kelly, good football coach, he'll be able to do that.

2:26:20Pat McAfee:If he can get the talent, he'll be able to do his thing. and then you start thinking to yourself, fit is the right word because it's like Brian Kelly in the deep, deep south there in Baton Rouge. And with how emotional that play, let alone how emotional he is, but also them, it's like, if that was to happen now, I think this particular program would go, okay, I think we would have a much different conversation about it than we did maybe a few years back. And I assume Brian Kelly's thinking the same thing, Stanford Steve. I think he's thinking like everybody said it. I knew it. Notre Dame was a great job for me.

2:26:51Pat McAfee:that could have been literally forever, let alone now with what they're able to do with NIL and remaining independent. I assume Brian Kelly's having a couple of those fit moments as well from the decision-making process, or is the$54 million he's getting over the next six years like, it was a good fit. Yeah, it was a good fit for all of us. Yeah, I think you get that to fall back on. It's so good. I've just been astounded at how it feels like Notre Dame fans are happier that he got fired than LSU fans are. They were very happy. Where they start to tell the stories, LSU guys talking about how former players weren't welcome back.

2:27:21Notre Dame players and fans, alumni, talking about, you know, since Marcus got the job back, you see Joe Montana back at games. You see Jerome Bettis back at games, Tim Brown. Like, they like that, the established tradition that they have. So it's been funny to see the Notre Dame reaction of seeing Kelly get gone.

2:27:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Irish will certainly hold a grudge. You know, that is something that will certainly happen. I'm right in the middle of one right now. Probably about ten of them, actually. Steve, I appreciate the hell out of you, man. You're the best. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you in Utah. Oh, whoa, whoa. You're right. I completely forgot. Do you want to debut your bracket right now? I'll show my bracket, yeah. Let's do it. Let's show his bracket. Show the bracket. He's got a big old bracket. Now, this is not just another college football playoff bracket. This ain't like the utter college football playoff brackets.

2:28:13Pat McAfee:This is Stainford Steve's projected at this exact moment college football playoff bracket. Now, anything can happen in college ball. You're talking about 18 to 40-year-olds playing at this stage of college football with how long people are playing for. But anything can happen in college football. So this is as of this exact moment. Why do you think these things, Steve, and what sticks out that people will probably give you the most shit for? James Madison makes their way into the college football playoff. Big win last night. Yeah, I really like what I've seen from James Madison. People are going to have a problem with that.

2:28:45Everybody at the American Conference, you know I think they're all going to beat up each other and that gives multiple losses and I look at James Madison with the ability to run the table and having a close loss at Louisville who beat Miami and JMU was leading in the second half of that game it was tied in the fourth quarter and they were still playing two quarterbacks at time at that time I really like what James Madison brings to the table as far as the G5 I we talked about Cincinnati I look at them I mean I mentioned Plus 700 to win the Big 12, I believe, is worth a shot. And then the top four, as you can see, I've talked to a couple guys that make the old lines out in Vegas.

2:29:23Right now, today, or tomorrow, if the Big Ten title game was right now, Ohio State would be a seven-point favorite over Indiana. So I just went with chalk there. That's bullshit.

2:29:37Just relaying. Okay, okay. That's all. I'm not saying I agree with it.

2:29:41Pat McAfee:So Alabama. Alabama ranked fourth. Georgia ranked fifth. A &M ranked second in the Big Ten at one and three. How do you get to that final four? So you think this SEC – I think those are the teams that play in the conference championship game. And the winners are higher speed and the losers are lower. All right. All right. You know, ACC might get two teams. And you got two teams from the ACC. So he thinks that Miami and Georgia Tech will be an undefeated Georgia Tech or a one-loss Georgia Tech to Georgia in the last game of the year. They'll be in the championship game and Miami will win, I believe is what Steve is thinking here.

2:30:21Mm-hmm. Yeah.

2:30:23Pat McAfee:So Georgia Tech loses to Georgia, beats Miami?

2:30:29No, loses. What did I have? Yes, whatever you said. Yeah, it doesn't get punished.

2:30:35Pat McAfee:It doesn't sound like you fucking. It doesn't get punished for the conference championship loss. Correct. Can we punt on Notre Dame? I'm sick of Notre Dame. What? Get him out of here. Indiana is the team of this state now. Notre Dame, kick rocks. All right, you had your chance last year. Just shut up. They like Marcus Freeman. I like Marcus Freeman a lot, and I love Jeremiah Love, especially after Jen Lottis' piece on him. Genuinely so excited for him in the NFL. They had their chance. Get them the fuck out of here. All right, this is IU State. Who'd they lose to? Miami and A &M. Two teams that are on here, brother.

2:31:10No, incredible. I love it. I mean, fuck, let's get JMU up to nine, you know? Let's get someone else in there at 12. I'm just sick of seeing ND, especially up there, because if ND comes in and gums Miami, kicks the fucking piss out of them, I don't want to wash that. I don't want to wash that at all.

2:31:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, but that'd be, what, old-school rivalry, convicts. Catholic. Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be a good buildup. That's a good, okay. I did see that one tweet that old buddy said, you know what, everybody on us should hate me. He said, you guys want all the – you want everybody that's deserving to be in the playoffs, but it's going to be on you whenever it's two no-name schools and nobody's watching or whatever. And everybody said, shut up, dude. We don't care about radio. What are you, a TV executive? You're worried about the advertising. All we want is good games here. We just want the best teams to represent, and we're hoping for great games.

2:32:04Pat McAfee:Last year, first round was not. Last year, it won how it went. and then, you know, kind of it rolls into the Rose Bowl a little bit there with Ohio State and Oregon. But I think there's like the better teams, the best teams are displayed, and that's all we're looking for in this entire thing. Who are the best teams in the country? And then it kind of chips fall however they fall. Yeah, and that's what's stuck about the Rose Bowl is we missed, like, the only good kind of game as far as the first one was Arizona State-Texas because Arizona State made that massive comeback. And it's like teams like that that have players like Scadaboo that then become household names all of a sudden, not that he wasn't before, but even more so, and then goes on to the NFL.

2:32:43It's March Madness.

2:32:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. It is a little bit of a March Madness type of feel. Go ahead. Steve, why Cincy over, I don't know, BYU, Texas Tech, the other list of Big 12 teams that are? I think they drop multiple games and Cincinnati runs the table. Wow. Oh, so he liked Cincinnati this weekend. He just gave his pick. All right, thanks. We appreciate you. All right, Steve. We appreciate that. The man who picks the college game day locations, the man who obviously has the city. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Stand for Steve. Yeah, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Yeah, we'll put him on the spot. Be the guy that picks the pigs.

2:33:16He is a wealth of information, too. That's what's fun about putting guys like that on the spot is they know what they're talking about.

2:33:21Pat McAfee:So he has a direct access to my ear. He has a button from his desk, and I have a button to Steve. It is hilarious. I'll forget the exact pronunciation of somebody's name that I'm about to say. I'm like, because I'm on camera right now, too. So I am, what's that called? Miming? No. Talkback? Oh, I don't. Talkback? No, no. What's that guy? Like ventriloquism. Ventriloquism, yeah. I'm like ventriloquism-ing through my mouth. Hey, Steve, what the fuck is that guy's name? Is it a, is it a. Oh, because you're on camera. Yeah, because I'm on camera right now. Saving a horseshoe. Is it a hard A or a soft A on that thing?

2:34:00Pat McAfee:And then, Steve, you're talking about Song of Paul Kelly? thank you steve thank you steve all right yeah songapultelli is he is just always kind of sitting there the iowa thing was awesome like yeah because the big 10 conversation in the meeting on friday had like 16 different directions potentially you know because there were so many different like is the top the best like is the top the best in the country like is this what are we even talking about three team uh bid obviously who's this team who could potentially put people off track like there's so many different ways to kind of attack it so i didn't fully know i don't think it was ever decided really maybe until the morning of what it was going to be and then steve just going hey which way are you going with the blah blah blah that was my first time learning of it first of all that that's what we were doing that's conversation yep i go fuck uh and i thought of you saying and i thought you're coming off why not fucking iowa and he goes to your literally in the exact moment.

2:34:55Pat McAfee:To your point, I'm like, fuck yeah, Steve. Looking out for me, dude. I appreciate you over there. Steve, you are the absolute man, but it may be. They're always lingering. Always lingering. Always lingering. Felt like that. Yeah. They got Oregon at home, and then they have to go to USC still. They have some tough games, but boy, they've been playing lights out the last couple weeks. What time is the USC game? Do you know when that is? I want to say that it's not like a late-night game, I don't think. How has Kirk handled this in the past? Has he had out a day early, get the boys ready, do they travel out late?

2:35:34Pat McAfee:Do you know how he handles the travel? I would imagine that they'll be there a bit early and get comfortable. What's Ryan Day do? Has he gone west coast? Obviously, he'd go out to Oregon. They lost at the end of that last year. Yeah, Washington earlier this season. I assume they go the day before. I think they just go the day before. Trade it the same. I think so. It was a bit of a slow first half for them, too, and then they poured it on against Washington in the second half. They broke the 22 home game win streak for Washington, if I do recall, right? So that is a tough place to play just regardless as a whole, a little bit of a slow start.

2:36:04Pat McAfee:I like the McVay going over to London. They went over the same exact shit. Yeah, that was incredible. I really enjoy that. I like that mentality. Like just, hey, we're treating this shit the same. Now, he wasn't in L.A. If he was in L.A., they'd probably head out two days earlier. But then them figuring out, let's stay in Baltimore. more. Let's put these cleats all over this fucking mound. That's pretty cool. Memory for the boys is like a bowl trip. It's like a bowl game. That's good for the team. A whole week on an off-site alternate campus that you're practicing. That brings a little spark. You have a normal routine.

2:36:36You're used to seeing the same thing day in, day out. I think that's a big deal.

2:36:39Pat McAfee:I think so, too. The Rams feel like they're for real. These college football teams may be separating themselves, but on any given Saturday, college football can be flipped on its fucking head. Literally four upsets just change. Everything. Oh, yeah. Everything everywhere, dude. Steve talked about how we always see those photos go viral before the season starts. Like, don't text me on insert day. November 1st. Yeah, it's crazy that that's what it was. I completely forgot about that. Yeah, college football is a wild place. Wild place. It's awesome. The best. It's only up until the right. So many problems happening behind the scenes.

2:37:20Pat McAfee:Yeah. so many things that have to get figured out you know it's like when you win they put a band-aid over top of it they say that about teams like when you win all the bad shits just kind of covered up college football is winning because of how awesome the product is and how awesome the environments are and how awesome the fans are and everything like that and then all the other shit just kind of getting covered up well what's the other chaos yeah just absolute fucking chaos is happening everywhere and everybody that's involved with the sport goes we gotta fix this this is not sustainable. The people that are winning because of this, and then the people that aren't winning because of it, all saying the same thing.

2:37:52Pat McAfee:We just want to know what the fuck the rules are. Is there a rules or a timing thing that can take place anywhere? Did he give an answer? Did James Franklin going anywhere when you asked him? Zero. No, he did not. Nope. Hey, Steve. Where's James? You talked to him. Where's James Franklin? Have you talked to him? No, but I'm seeing a lot of rumors. That's why I wanted to find out. Yeah, I saw the internet had him at Virginia Tech. Okay, I was wondering what the options are, where he may be people are singling out. Yeah, the internet, somebody made a graphic of him at Virginia Tech. I assume some account, some college football account made that graphic, said, how about this?

2:38:24Pat McAfee:Then somebody who likes that ran with it and said, this could happen. And then all of a sudden you got a rumor that is, wait, James Franklin could actually be kind of awesome at Virginia Tech if he was able to turn that around. Would love to see him come out to... He would be awesome. He would be very good for Virginia Tech. So because it's believable and you think it would be good, even if it was made by a high school troll account with the graphic, everybody runs with it. And James Franklin's agent, who is Jimmy Suxton, he doesn't mind any of that stuff either. He's definitely going to get one of these huge gigs, which is why Virginia Tech, I guess you wouldn't necessarily just place him, but who knows how it all shapes him.

2:39:05He would be great there. Obviously, he did incredible things at Vandy. That's how he got hired at Penn State and was obviously incredible at Penn State besides winning the big one, which Penn State needs to do. But that's why Virginia Tech I think would be a perfect fit.

2:39:18Pat McAfee:I think he's going to Florida. Boom. That is off at zero. They didn't tell or research. Who's going there? Who do you guys take? The problem is they're striking out everywhere because every time somebody gets rumored somewhere, then they sign an extension at their school. So now it becomes you have to get creative. You have to tap into former head coaches who are now coordinators at the NFL level. You have to go to a coordinator at the college level, and that's not the big splash that anybody at Penn State wants, right? What do the people at Penn State want? They want big names? They want a splash.

2:39:53Pat McAfee:They want big names. They want big names. A splash, a proven winner that's going to bring a national championship and a good offense. It feels like Florida might be one of the schools that does the, hey, this could be the next Dan Lanning, and they get one of those coordinators. So they did that with Napier kind of, didn't they? Yeah. Because Napier was at Louisiana Monroe, if I do recall. Yeah, like Louisiana Monroe. But Arbuckle, I think. Oh, you're saying like a big name. Yeah, big name from a school. Hasn't been a head coach yet, but big name from a big school has been successful play caller.

2:40:25I made a list earlier. So like Heartline, Ohio State could be one of those guys. Mike Shanahan, who has been with SIG forever. IU's offensive coordinator. Colin Klein is A &M's offensive coordinator. Both of Oregon's coordinators were up or like were rumored for jobs last year. What are their names? Tosh Lapoy is the defense coordinator. And Will Klein. That's his name, right? Colin Klein is the one at A &M. It's Will. Is it Klein? Something like that. Will Klein was the pitcher for the Dodgers. Will Stein. Stein.

2:40:58Pat McAfee:Shit. Sorry about that, Will Stein. It's Oregon's OC. Stein, good guy. These people are very good to this. Those would be the big school coordinators who are doing really well right now, who have done really well for years and years and years that you might hear in this coaching season. And then obviously the Los Angeles Chargers defense coordinator is a guy that won national championship in Michigan and is an absolute beast. So, you know, that could be – that might be big splashy splash. Yeah, I mean, even like a Matt Nagy. Like, I would love to see Matt Nagy being a head ball coach somewhere again in college.

2:41:27And I don't know if, you know, Florida or LSU, but I think Penn State would be a great fit for Matt Nagy. Yeah. That's just me, though. I mean, what do I know? Dan Mullen Oh I like Dan Mullen He's from Pennsylvania

2:41:41Pat McAfee:He said he's not leaving He did say that before they got beat by 40 But you know But a fired NFL coach Fired NFL head coach at the end of the year Who are you talking about? I'm thinking after the season Mike McDaniel I love that He'd be so cool at Penn State McDaniel would be so cool Oh my god he'd wear those joggers the grass on that field would go up to the joggers for sure his feet would just blend in that would be awesome up there I thought you were mentioning John Gruden I mean I throw Gruden's name into every job but I don't know I'm actually doing that actively and I don't know John Gruden like that I think a lot of people think that I know I do not know John Gruden like that we are not boys I have respect for John Gruen.

2:42:36Pat McAfee:I've listened to him talk about football. That motherfucker loves football. I mean, he absolutely loves football. And you go back to when he was on Monday Night Football, he's best commentator. This fucking guy loves ball. The fired football coaches of America, he has a vault, an office that he would go into and watch film, let alone the passing thing. I mean, it's just like you're talking about a guy that his entire life has been fucking ball, and he's a show. He can talk. He can sell. and that's a splash that's a splash higher certainly probably on a little bit of a revenge tour you know obviously acknowledges shouldn't have done what he's done there's like 70 ,000 other emails but yeah okay I definitely I agree I should not have in private been doing what I was doing on my emails that is on me he says but on that note like definitely on a revenge tour definitely one to prove that he's like that's a motivated guy so for me whenever I say his name it's not because I fucking know him it's just because as a fan of watching his ass on the internet, it's like, this guy knows ball.

2:43:35Pat McAfee:This guy loves ball. And this guy's entertaining as shit, which you're definitely going to need just naturally an entertaining motherfucker. So it's not like he's going to do an entire show and make a mockery out of it. But when he speaks, people enjoy listening to him speak. Like that is proven. And that's good in the modern era, I think. For West Virginia last year, it was Rich Rod and Gruden were kind of the two that you were pushing for. We need to push for some other things. we need a couple billionaires I need some recruiting billionaires I'm going to start sending texts here we go get him to really care about West Virginia call the other guy he's already picking where game day goes I don't know if he's got time cold call this guy you guys have Brian Kelly on game day this week I don't know if he'll do the same thing as James Franklin that would be crazy coach at Cincinnati Eddie.

2:44:28It's true. Good times.

2:44:30Pat McAfee:It's true. He was a great coach since I won in Big East. I was there whenever he was there. That's why I ended up getting Notre Dame job because of how good he was doing it. Hey, we're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. We are live. Okay. I'm live right now. Yes. Microphone is live. Ari, would you pledge$10 million to the West Virginia University football team? Thank you so much for doing that. The boys really appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, Ari Maniel is going to do that. I love West Virginia, but I'm not going to. I'm going to do McAllister College.

2:45:03Pat McAfee:What? Okay. That's it. See, see, see. Ooh. There was one. There's one rock. Okay, I'm trying. I'm trying my best. What about West Virginia, born and bred Coach Nick Saban? He does need to be giving money back to West Virginia. I don't know. Yeah, I thought he loves that place so much. Why does he give you guys any money? I don't know. Feels like he likes his money. Definitely FaceTime him. Yeah, we're not going to FaceTime Coach Sam. Good call, AJ. That was a good call. That was a good call. Ari was on the golf course right there. I've been pushing him. Come on, bro. Come on, dude. We need it.

2:45:38Pat McAfee:Kids all went to Michigan. It's like. Has no time. Not at all. No, no. I'm like, Michigan's already got enough, dude. They got enough. You know who you need to call? Who's that? From West Virginia. Owner of a professional baseball team. You need to call Mr. Nunning. I don't even think about the Pittsburgh Pirates owner investing money in other things other than the Pittsburgh Pirates. He sold Seven Springs. He's got a bunch. He might do it just to fuck the Pirates. Seriously. Let's go Mountaineers. And he did sell that tubing hill. He had to get at least$150 ,000,$200 ,000 just for that one hill.

2:46:12Ooh.

2:46:13Pat McAfee:Do you remember that hill? Oh, yeah. Did it have like a rope that pulled you up? Yeah, you'd latch in and drag. That's worth at least a million. That's worth more than$150 ,000. Yeah. I guess I haven't seen it. I've never saw the hill, I guess. Seven Springs. It's not a hill. It is the premier ski resort in the mid-Atlantic region. It sold for$125 million. That makes sense because of that tubing hill. I mean, I certainly undersold that a little bit. I thought maybe$125 million. They did have a good tubing hill. I was never on that, but yeah, it looked good. Now that we're on the subject, what were you talking about earlier?

2:46:47Pat McAfee:We had a development, a psychological breakthrough on who AQ Shipley is. I forget how we got. He was just talking shit on Pittsburgh again. Oh, yeah. He said the Pittsburgh Steelers offense. Everybody loves it. You don't love it. Why don't you love the Pittsburgh Steelers offense? It's not very good. Okay. So we wonder. What's not good? Exactly. Exactly. Everybody thinks it's good. What is good about it, AJ? Because they put an extra tight end in there. All of a sudden they're doing something innovative as if people haven't been doing that for years. They're scoring more than they have in the last two or three years.

2:47:20Yeah, for sure. They're better. I didn't know the goal was to be innovative. I thought it was to score points. That's Nick Morata. He's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, asking a lot of questions. The goal is to win, actually. That's the goal. Oh, we talked about the offense. We didn't talk about the whole team. It's about the process. Yeah, it's about the process. No, I just think that up front, offensively, they have to go this way just to be able to create movement. They couldn't do anything early in the season, so now they go this, and now you're limited to what you can do because all you can do is two - and three-man routes because this is the way they have to get protection.

2:47:46This is the way they have to block people, and they're still not gashing people in the run game.

2:47:50Pat McAfee:So you're not a believer in the Pittsburgh Steelers offense like everybody else. Everybody else is burying the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense, saying they're a problem. You're saying that Pittsburgh Steelers' offense, too, is going to be a problem if they run into anybody maybe with a good defense. And you were saying that, and we all just thought to ourselves, this guy doesn't even like Joe DiNardo. Yeah, exactly. It might be all of Pittsburgh. Yeah, this guy just doesn't like Pittsburgh. But he's from there, Tone. And then you said maybe one of the most enlightening things I've ever heard. Yeah, he is from there, and he hates everything from Pittsburgh.

2:48:17Not everything. Basically everything. So ipso facto, he looks in the mirror and hates himself. and realizes that Pittsburgh built him, hates himself, then hates the place that built him that made him himself.

2:48:29Pat McAfee:Yes, of course. So that was the depth of it. I think you nailed it. Tied it together. Honestly. He's from Pittsburgh, too. You hate yourself. I love Kennywood. We talked about this. Yeah, but then you said immediately, well, if I got a Kennywood, I'm going to fall off the roller coaster because they got a cinder block under the racers. But at night before you go to bed, you know you're brushing your teeth and you look in the mirror and you're, God, I hate myself so much. I'm the happiest I've ever been You just lost all your decorations Wow Three days ago I was the happiest I've ever been I was probably kind of still happy I get a free chance To beat the fuck out of ten kids This is awesome, I love this That is crazy to think if you just get a one by one In that octagon in your front yard With lights on at 3am They think nothing's happening Pitch black, all of a sudden you see the first one They get in the yard Turn the lights on Welcome to Thunderdome, boys.

2:49:23No, turn all the lights off. Turn every light on this whole street off, and all of a sudden they're just getting annihilated in the dark. AQ's just got his, you know, he definitely has the night vision goggles, the NVGs he gets from his SEAL buddies.

2:49:33Pat McAfee:Yes, he certainly has the night vision goggles. Probably a couple dogs with the night vision goggles as well. And then he probably has something in pillowcases that he's potentially spinning there. Okay, so you can either go under the guise of pitch black or maybe light them up whenever they show up. I feel like the options are literally limited. You're in a good spot here. I'm in a great spot. $10 ,000 to any tip that leads to the arrest. No, not the arrest. Sorry. The ass beating of those who stole Skelly, Mr. Skelly, who is beloved by the Shipley family. I need Skelly back. So any tip, anything out there, I'll take it.

2:50:11But guess what? I'm going to find it anyways. Oh, you don't need any tips. Like that. Don't need any tips.

2:50:17Pat McAfee:We need some tips on what we need to talk about. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AQ Shipley's big takeaways from week eight of the NFL season. What are some talking points? Oh, I like this. Miles the Menace. Let's take a look. Miles Garrett, five sacks against the Patriots. Sorry, Con Man, but take a look. This move that he does. Let's watch this. Chip from the tight end, back outside, dip around, easy sack. Keep it moving. Let's go to the next one. Now we're going to get a little stunt inside. We can't blame this one on Will Campbell completely. We're going to get up the field, back underneath.

2:50:48Heath, little ET stunt, push him back. Sack. Easy, easy, easy. Let's go one more here. Oh, let's try and chip him again. Cool. They bear hug him. Nope. Dip and rip. See, and now you see me. Now you don't. Around the edge. Another sack. That's just three. We got two more, guys. Here's another one on the left side. Look at this redirect. Jesus. Recognizes run, gets down the line, and almost gets the hip drop. He's lucky he got his foot out there. Put the ball away. And then this last one. Again, sees the chip. Inside, presses the tackle. Tackle basically just stops. can't handle it, and it is another sack.

2:51:19Pat McAfee:He's a good player, AJ. Pretty good player. Pretty explosive, I would say. Yeah, I think so. And also his hands so clean and his feet so quick. And his shoulder, he turns, it takes the whole blocking surface away. Boom. Turns his shoulders and you got, oh, the dude's punching on his back. Remember we saw him dunking and playing basketball and we made such a big deal out of it? That's because of just how athletic he is and his body's just so fluid for how large and powerful he is. Yeah, like that's what it feels like he could bring to the table is just teaching offensive linemen as well, like across the board.

2:51:46It's not just what he does on defense. It feels as though he's on another level. When it comes to Will Campbell AQ, you just chalk this one up as welcome to the NFL? I think that's what I texted you. I think this is his welcome to the NFL moment. He's had some really good rushers already. He's had Miles Garrett. He's had Max Crosby. He's had really good players to really start off the first eight weeks of his NFL career. When you go and you look at this, whenever you texted me, I was going to go back and look at this and think that he got his ass kicked. He really didn't. There's a couple sacks that he gives up, but again, you're going to give that up whenever you're playing against Myles Garrett, but at the end of the day, Will Campbell, sometimes guys are different.

2:52:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, Myles Garrett certainly did. And to be clear, the Cleveland Browns said there's no chance we're trading him. Yep. Okay, and then Schrags and everybody else goes, we'll see. Browns say no chance we're trading him. Everybody else that covers it says we'll see. What does that mean? just trying to draw some suspense from the situation or is what Haslam and the boys saying up there from the Cleveland Browns accurate? You know, because Schefter said, from those wondering if the Browns would consider trading Miles Garrett by Tuesday deadline, the answer is, in the words of one source, no chance.

2:52:58Pat McAfee:Schefter doesn't have really high up sources, right? People have a better chance to win the lottery. I mean, who is that source? They took it too far. That's why I think it might happen. Oversold it. Exactly. They would have just said, yep, no chance. And then it's like, okay, probably not. What if that's the owner? Maybe. And if it is the owner, maybe he doesn't really feel like moving Miles Garrett to New England's trading him because Braybill's kind of a Cleveland Brown. What's that? Mike Braybill was in the building last year. I'm sure he's got a great relationship with the front office of the Cleveland Browns.

2:53:31Pat McAfee:So you're saying because of his great relationship from the one year he was a consultant? Yes. To the Cleveland Browns? Hey, look, we're still keeping him home. His home just resides in New England. now. He'll forever be a Cleveland Brown. Exactly. And guess what? Guess where he's going to end up? After he wins the championship in the New England Patriots. New England forever. And then? New England forever. And then? New England forever. Back in Ohio. No, I... I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about every picture of him going forward. Oh, yeah. After this moment. Yeah. Will be him in another jersey.

2:54:04Pat McAfee:Just like we had to see with Peyton whenever he went to Denver. I mean, Jesus Christ. He went over to Denver. He could not find a photo of him in the Indianapolis Colts uniform anywhere after he retired it was like yeah Peyton Manning retires hangs it up what a player it's like him in a different Denver Broncos uniform each single time and then it's like him dapping up Papa John and having a full conversation Denver Broncos it's like he's remembered completely for that now obviously that has come back full circle here as we continue into his retirement Miles Garrett who would you rather be Andrew Whitworth or Joe Thomas you tell me oh that's the cell.

2:54:38Pat McAfee:That's the cell. Yes, Tony. Yes! Who are you selling that to? There's a better chance to win a lottery, says the person that's making the decision. I think. Schefter has high sources. Write another letter. Well, Miles, write another letter. Well, everyone's talking about the dead cap, too. Like, Jimmy Haslam doesn't care about that. He can just cook up some harebrained scheme to screw over a bunch of truck drivers at Pilot. You know, he could do that again. Just fucking bring it up. He did not know that was going on, is what they said. But that certainly happened at that gas station. Is Deshaun's?

2:55:07Pat McAfee:And I would like to let everybody know, I had a lot of points too from being on the road. And it was tough to find that shit out. That was a heartbreaker. Tim McAfee, not happy. I bet. Tim McAfee, former truck driver, not thrilled about what was going on in those places. But on that note, Haslam has paid a lot of money before. Why not drop another 60? And Deshaun's deal's done next season, so his dead cap's almost done. So he said, fuck, we can just pick up another one. Yeah. It's actually kind of fun. We'll give him cash. We'll give him cash. We'd like to mark it from behind. All right, let's go to the next talking point from AQ Shipley, week eight.

2:55:41Pat McAfee:Whoa! Loving the blitz. Loving the blitz. Jordan Love was 11 of 15 for 183 yards and three touchdowns versus the Pittsburgh Steelers' blitz. Right here, you get the double-A gap. You know they're bringing six. There it is. Josh Jacobs gets run over, gets hit while he's throwing. Just throws it up and lets his guy go make a play. Tucker Kraft. That's a good play? Where's Chuck Gasey? They say it's a good play? Ended up being a good play. Heck yeah, it's a good play. It's a 50-yard gain. Oh, you're saying because it was a blitz, he knew that that was single coverage. You can throw a little dangerous out there.

2:56:11Pat McAfee:Bingo. There's not as many people. Tucker Kraft will make a play for me. He's literally getting hit. Just throw it up. You know it's man coverage on the back end. Just throw it up. Make a play. That's what Jordan Love's been doing. Jordan Love's been doing a lot of that throughout his entire career whenever he's on the field. This year, a lot less turnovers, they're saying. Yeah, he's only thrown two picks, and that is kind of the feast or famine and where the comparisons to Favre come in because he is so much fun to watch play because you know that there's going to be a couple of these a game where he loves pushing the ball downfield.

2:56:36And then there are those Sundays where, you know, he throws a couple picks, he's not completing these passes, and it's like, I don't know, is this sustainable? Can you win a Super Bowl like this? If he plays the way he did on Sunday, it's hard not to consider the Packers a Super Bowl frontrunner.

2:56:49Pat McAfee:Hey Q, it feels like you're getting excitement out of showcasing a Pittsburgh Steelers lose here, which goes back to our previous conversation. Tell us more about Love and the Blitz. Yeah, again, you get six-man blitz. You know you got man coverage or some type of man coverage on the back end. Let's roll right, throw off your back foot, fade away, throw it over top of one in between the other like an absolute dauntless. Yeah, he's a hell of a football player. I appreciate the fact that Jordan Love is seemingly playing his best ball right now, getting better and better and better as the season goes on, as his career goes on.

2:57:20Yeah, absolutely. So it's kind of past the point of like, hey, did they make the right move on moving on from Rodgers and getting this guy? I think we can put that to bed. But now it's ultimately, can this guy win a Super Bowl? And, you know, again, if he plays like he did on Sunday and we see more of that and they get kind of the running game involved a little bit more, I think there is a chance that he can win a Super Bowl, maybe this year.

2:57:42Pat McAfee:Well, it might be tough because of what your third talking point is. Go on, AQ. JT, the MVP. That's a sick graphic. Dirty did a great job with all these. Now let's talk about why he is the MVP in your eyes. I could have showed the offensive line opening holes, which I will on the third play, but let's take a look at these first two plays. You get a trap play. It is blown up right there. He recognizes that the blitz comes from the right, puts the brakes on, and beats three people all by himself to get into the end zone. Okay, so he knew that it was going to be wide open there because dudes are coming from that side.

2:58:12Pat McAfee:So if they come from there, they ain't in there anymore. Correct. And so that play was originally supposed to hit in the left A-gap, literally left A-gap. But you get the blitz, gets blocked all the way down. He puts the brakes on, hits it vertical, and then makes a move on three guys. This guy's special, huh? His vision is insane. His quickness is insane. His durability is insane. And at the second level, he can pull away from everybody. That's right. And then on this play right here, he's running his own play left. It's dead, right? Dead. He runs into the back of his lineman. Nope. Spin out of it.

2:58:38Guess what this is? Just an easy 12-yard gain.

2:58:41Pat McAfee:That's a 12-yard gain right there. Always falling forward. It's special to watch. And then you said you're going to talk about the O-line in the third one. What's that? And then here it is, this thing. Watch the center just open this hole. I mean, I could literally roll a wheelchair through there for a 20-yard gain right now. Well, a wheelchair might be fast depending upon who's pushing it. But on that note, that's a big gaping hole. But I appreciate the fact that you showcased that. It's not always like that. Now, granted, this offensive line has been doing a great job. They've been moving bodies.

2:59:09Pat McAfee:But people see that big gaping hole, and they're like, well, John, anybody can do this. It's like, no. What Jonathan Taylor's been doing is outrageous. All of it. You put them together. You got Saquon and the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, maybe. You got big dreams. You got big hopes. Speaking of big dreams and big hopes, who are the top five performing offensive lines coming out of week eight and week eight only in the trenches? AQ, who's number five? Number five is the Los Angeles Chargers. Congrats to them. That's horrible. Hey, that's horrible football, baby. That's horrible football.

2:59:41Pat McAfee:What did you see from them, AQ? You should put some at five in the entire league. First of all, Kamani Vidal, 23 carries, 117 yards for a single touchdown. But let's watch him right here. They get to power so many different ways. But look, Trey Harris, their rookie wide receiver, ends up being the fullback on this play. They brought him in motion. You get the huge hole, go around the edge. Zion Johnson, their former first-round pick, number 77, the left guard, is the puller. That's their way of getting to puller by being creative. I like that. They got a wide receiver acting like a fullback. Exactly.

3:00:10Pat McAfee:Everybody's bought in to the mentality of the team. Absolutely. and they used Trey Harris a lot. They did this a lot basically the last three weeks. They try and get either the fullback or they like to use him. He's a bigger wide receiver and they bring him around as a second puller a lot. Those uniforms are so filthy, AJ. They look awesome. They should go back to these full-time. Why'd they have the yellow doodoo ones on against the Colts? It hurt my eyes. I was watching my Colts team. It hurt my eyes. Just to remind us how sweet these are. I think that's why you got to show us some turds so then we can go back and go, oh, these are that much better.

3:00:41Pat McAfee:That's a smart idea, actually. That's a setup. That's chess. Yeah, it is. Wow, they would do that over there. It's horrible. We've seen it. And Chargers, too. I mean, they are chess players. Who's the number four performing offensive line of Week 8? Wow. The Denver Broncos. I think we've all seen this clip. This clip has gone viral. Speaking of great units. For our guy, Quinn Miners on the backside. Let's watch him first. As he climbs, boom, throw his ass on the ground. Keep it quiet. Take out the safety. And then turn around, get another block. Three guys on one play for Quinn Miners. Two knockdowns, one great block.

3:01:13Pat McAfee:Quinn Miners, who used to have dreads. I don't know if he still does. Absolute beast and a dog since he got into the NFL. He was one of the rare offensive linemen who was doing media before the draft. And it upped his stock. Everybody's like, this dude's awesome. Then he gets in there and does well. Sean Payton wanted to flip this offensive line. You're saying, yes, they have. Yes, they have. And they're missing their left guard who's out for injury. Palcheski, who used to be their sixth offensive lineman that they would bring in, is now starting at left guard. Hence the fact they just signed Mercedes Lewis to get back into big personnel stuff.

3:01:44Garrett Bowles out in front got that thing started. They have figured it out over there.

3:01:48Pat McAfee:I like Mercedes Lewis coming back, going to the practice squad. This has been the new move since post-COVID. So you used to not be able to put vets on the practice squad. Then COVID comes around. Vets are allowed on the practice squad. Everybody says, hey, this is a good idea. Now teams use the practice squad and vets use the practice squad to see if you're in shape. Like, hey, let's see if you're in shape for like a week or so. We got you. We're interested. You're not necessarily going right up to the roster. so let's see how it is. I assume Mercedes is going to be in great shape, and he can still move bodies.

3:02:14Pat McAfee:Denver Broncos is only getting better. Who's the number three performing offensive line in week eight? Wow, Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills. And let's take a look at this play. I love this play. Again, we talk about big offensive linemen, but Buffalo went and got Jackson Hawes. He's going to come in motion. That is their big tight end. He gets the kick out. Edwards at the point of attack. Let's look at him. If we can go back one more time, look at the left guard. Watch him just long arm right here and just open this hole right there. As soon as the ball's by him, he just stops. He knows it's a touchdown.

3:02:42Look at the sideline. Fuck it. Plays over. Everybody's cheering. Look at this team getting back on track this week.

3:02:47Pat McAfee:Congrats to James Cook. He won for over 200, right? Is that what it was? Yeah, he went absolutely crazy. And Joe Brady and Josh Allen and the Buffalo Beals seemingly have a run game that can match through the sky. Offensive line, good. Deion Dawkins got a fight after the game. I like that. I like that a little bit. I think he got into it with A'shaun Robinson, who's a damn good football player. One of the strongest guys I've ever played against. They got into it. Deion Dawkins is incredible. Edwards is incredible. Spencer Brown's playing at a high rate. Reggie Gilliam, their fullback, awesome.

3:03:15Pat McAfee:Okay, fullback, you're counting as the offensive lines. I respect that. You've done that for the last couple weeks because you think they are honorary offensive linemen, and teams that have them and weaponize them are seemingly great. For the Carolina Panthers news, Bryce Young, full participant in practice. Okay. Okay, so that broke today while we were in there. Bills obviously played Carolina last week. Bryce Young seemingly back. Who's the number two performing offensive line of week eight of the NFL season? The Philadelphia Eagles finally get back in the top five, and they got back to doing what they like to do, and that's running the football.

3:03:43Ironically, it was without their center jergens. Brett Toth, who's played every position on the offensive line, has been with the Eagles, been out of the Eagles, back to the Eagles. Stoutland loves them, puts him at center. Let's watch the combo between him and Landon Dickerson. Get a hat on a hat, bounce this thing out the backside. Jesus. And Saquon is back.

3:04:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'd say Saquon's back. And you're saying the Eagles offensive line is back, it sounds like. Is the under center as big of a deal as Dan Rossi's been making it out to be the past couple weeks? Yeah, and why is it such a big deal? It's huge because there's only so many runs you can run whenever you're offset back. So when you go shotgun and your back's offset here, nine times out of ten you're going to be running the ball to the left. What's your switch up? We have a counter coming back this way or we have a toss. So there's only three plays that you can really run out of it. When you go under center, you have everything.

3:04:28You have the play action. You have the run to the left. You have the run to the right. You've got the power game. You've got the inside zone left, the inside zone right, the outside zone, the outside. You have your entire playbook when you go under center.

3:04:37Pat McAfee:Got it, so you're kind of giving away what you're doing whenever you've got a shotgun with the sidecar there for the running back. I didn't even think about it that way. I hear Dano talk about it. I thought it was something about leverage or timing and things like that, which obviously certainly might be a part of it. But the fact that you can do everything versus you can only do three things feels like enough for me to maybe go under center. Why did they stop doing it? Because guys weren't comfortable under there? Yeah, I think people started doing it, and that's how the RPO game's the best. That's, I think, the biggest thing.

3:05:02So when you look at the college game, it's the RPO because now you leave this backside defensive end unblocked as you're faking the zone across this way while he's staring, and now it's real quick, just hit the RPO behind.

3:05:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, and you already have space, too. You're building in space for yourself to be away from the end if you need to get around him. So shotgun for RPO. But if you want to go old school football, you've got to go in the center and have all the options open. That's right. That's right. Especially because that thing might be supposed to go left, But these running backs these days got these senses. Well, this play right here from the Eagles was supposed to hit off the right side. And whenever you run a duo play off the right side, the backside cut, in my opinion, is the juiciest cut in football because everybody flows over the top.

3:05:44You know what I'm talking about?

3:05:46Pat McAfee:Juicy cut of B. Ah, that was a great line. Did you hear that, AJ? In my opinion, the juiciest cut in football is whenever we got a duo right, is what you said? That's right. Duo right with the cutback potentially. That's the juiciest cut in football, AJ. Did you know that? I did not know that. AQ, is that something you came up with, or do you hear one of your old vet coaches give you that? I've always heard them say the backside A cut is always there, but I just came up with that on my own. The juiciest cut in football. That's awesome. Beautiful. That's a great line there. Hey, listen, these guys are seeing these juicy cuts.

3:06:18Pat McAfee:Yeah. These guys are seeing them too. And who is the number one offensive line of week eight of the NFL season? Would you like to do the honors? Yeah, I've seen the NFL schools. Wow. It's about time we're at the top of the mountain. We've been climbing this mountain for a long time in this particular segment. We've been close. You know, we've been third, second. Hey, listen, there's a couple plays where a guy didn't get a full pancake, so I had to keep him at third. They're definitely the best offensive line, but can't put them at one this week. We're number one this week. That's a big deal. What did you see from the boys in the dominating win over the Titans that made you say, yeah, that's the number one offensive line of week eight?

3:06:52Yeah, we saw the clips earlier, obviously, but check it out. You've been talking about it for a long time. We hear everybody talking about it. How do we create leverage? Let's watch. Send the receiver in motion. Pushes the backers back. Now we got our leverage. You get point of the tack. Mo Alley-Cox. Quentin Nelson out in space. Bordellini. Wrap around. Get the backer. And then should be a 20-yard game. But guess what? This guy always takes it the distance.

3:07:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, I love Jonathan Taylor. Me too. And the sideline shit is outrageous. I can't. I've said the story four times. We are right here. We are down here watching straight, literally straight down the line. I have a better view than any ref, any camera. I literally see it. The pureness of the white line with his foot next to it was just like a no-doubter. He did not step out of bounds. And then you think to yourself, well, how the fuck is he doing? You look up at the Jumbotron real quick, and it's like, oh, he's on top of that line. And then you look back at him, and he's looking down. He's running 24 miles an hour.

3:07:50Pat McAfee:He's looking down at it and not getting off. he's so strong. He's so fast, so balanced, so explosive. This dude's special. And I'll tell you what, I think next year is the last year of his contract. We don't need any of that shit happening again. And Danny Dimes, we're going to have to pay him. We're going to have to pay JT. I think we have the capabilities to be able to do it. He's special, man. This is the best he's played in the NFL. He is special, and it helps that the offensive line's playing their asses off. If you look at this clip again, you've got Quentin Nelson on a corner. How do you want to draw it up?

3:08:23You want Quentin Nelson on a corner. So you can just run him to the sideline. The leverage creates. I mean, he's running through holes there. But the key to what he always does is if you get him to the second level, it's an 80 % chance he's taking it the distance.

3:08:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, if they're even, he's leaving. And then he's doing his fucking dance, too. It is. He's getting after it, AJ. It's a pretty good little dance, you know, because you got a little Ric Flair. You got a little Jeff Jarrett. You got easy to do, you know, potentially for people. and also it looks so smooth as he's running in there. And then you can notice how fast – it also showcases how fast he's going because he's hitting – he's downshifting.

3:09:04Pat McAfee:There's the top five. He ended up at school's number one. Baby Q's. And Q looked really cool. And I don't know if everybody saw it earlier. It's not just the top five performing offensive lines in the trenches. It's not just his talking points or takeaways. He also had his AQ's taking away. So we had a lot of graphics with A.Q. Shipley today. And I'll tell you what, well-deserved. Scary. Yeah, they're scary. Super scary. Guy from Wednesday. What's his name? Great show. Guy from Wednesday in the Addams Family. Gomez Addams? Uncle Fester. Yeah, there it is. That's kind of what that looks like. I've watched that, and I watch all of it.

3:09:40Pat McAfee:And I'm like, I think it's really good. That's what I think whenever I watch that stuff. I watch it all. I'm like, fuck, locked in. They dropped that new shit, too. and I'm like, yeah, and the Wednesday one is the off one, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, fucking, it's good, dude. And also, Halloween week here? Yeah. Okay, we gotta watch all the awesome Halloween movies. What's the, there's a bunch of witches, there's three of them. Hocus Pocus. Hocus Pocus. That's a good one. Halloween Town's a good one. Okay. Hubie Halloween. Okay, what else? Doug Goat. What else is must-watches here? Scream. Jack Skeleton.

3:10:13Pat McAfee:What's that one? Scream, okay. Hotel Transylvania. Hotel Transylvania, great. Adam Schefter, or Adam Sandler. Might be the greatest Dracula of all time. It is Hotel Transylvania. We'll lock up Mackenzie if she starts watching and she gets locked in. It's incredible. Also, good storyline about being accepted and being different. Sure. Okay, so I'm a big fan of Transylvania. Scream. Saw. We watching Saw? Just go ahead and lock in there. Just go ahead and say, fuck it. Let's go ahead and puke. Yeah, Saw. Nightmare on Elm Street. What was the, you said, what was the, what's the one with the clown?

3:10:45Pat McAfee:The clown. Yeah, it. And it's Bill Skarsgård's in the newest one. And he's like one of the better Pennywise is the name of the clown ever. Listen, I know that Skarsgård family. They are fucking royalty out there. Yeah. Live in Sweden. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I mean, you can speak better on it, but he's like horror royalty, right? Like he's been good in like every horror movie. Yeah. I think he was in Nosferatu too, which is like the most famous vampire movie of all time that got remade. He was in that. He's Pennywise. Yeah. I mean. He's a dog. The Skarsgård family. Yeah. arguably the first family of acting.

3:11:20Pat McAfee:So does everybody know that he was in that photo, right? That was posted publicly. I think so. And it would be out there that he's in that movie. I got to watch his Scores Guard work. What a fucking animal. This guy is awesome. All the dudes were awesome. And I knew everything about all these guys, obviously. I have a deep movie information knowledge guy. On the plane, yeah. You dug in. Everybody knows that I know all that stuff. I asked some questions the first couple days. I assumed they were pretty disrespectful. from now hindsight looking back on it and the way they talked to me and the way they treated me was so incredibly kind these dudes were awesome but the scars guard one was the biggest one where it was like uh you know asking about scars guard like about being in said movie and how awesome it was and him just being like yeah yeah man it's like really cool this is work my whole life being this like super humble or whatever and i had no idea just drops like how many movies he's been in yeah real quick and then i get a text from fucking connor it's like yo the fucking guy huge this guys i'm like oh my god so the next day i see him i'm like brother i want to let you know big pop back in indiana for uh me being around you want to let you know i appreciate you being kind to me or whatever and he was help me out you're talking about like all these guys like help me out with different things like hey we're doing this what should i be thinking uh boom think about this and you're doing this like thank you so much thank you you've done 30 some movies obviously you're a fucking beast oh your dad's jack nichols okay very nice to talk to you oh you're winning a Tony Award because you're the greatest guy in Broadway.

3:12:46Pat McAfee:Okay, very nice to meet you. Oh, you're the handsomest dude of all time. Got it. Okay. I can't do that. I know that that's not going to be possible, but those dudes were great. Skark, this is when I watched his movie. Yeah, I mean, if there's ever a time, definitely don't watch Robert McKenzie, but it is the one for Halloween time. And that's the one he's in. Yeah, that's the one he's in. There's two movies. I would like to support the homie. I will watch. I don't watch horror films, though. Yeah, you should watch this. You should just skip to the second one then because he's in more of that versus the first one.

3:13:16What is the one, the project?

3:13:20Pat McAfee:What was that one back in the day? They filmed it like shit. Oh, Blair Witch Project. There it is. Blair Witch Project. They got me for about 20 minutes watching that bullshit. Oh, yeah. And I said, absolutely not. Got the fuck out of that. That was like our era. Oh, yeah. I think that was like our era. It was. Yeah, everybody was watching. It was so cool to go watch it. And I'm like, I don't like these movies. No, you got to watch. Everybody's fucking watching. You got me for 20 minutes. I'm like, get me the fuck out of here. You guys want to do this? You want to walk into a house and go, fuck, no.

3:13:46Pat McAfee:I don't want to do that. Nick's favorite genre. Who's that? Nick's favorite genre. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes you just got to feel something, you know? Yeah, but you're ruining your life. You're laying your head down at night. Paranormal activity, that was another one. That's the worst one. That one fucked me, too. I think I was forced to watch that one as well. I didn't love that. I was trying to be a team player. Yeah, I was trying to be a team player. Come on, everybody's doing it. Fucking do it. I'm not doing it. Is there anything funny? Hubie Halloween. Yeah. Hell yeah. Bingo. Fucking delivered all the time.

3:14:19Pat McAfee:But Saw, I like Saw a series a lot. Yeah. Saw 1 is based off a college kid's psychology project, I'm pretty sure. That's what I heard, right? And then they just said, you know what? That was cool. We're trying to figure out ways to fucking brutally torture people. Yeah. Let's make 100 of them. Yeah. You watch those and you do get kind of freaked out about the Marines out there. That's like when I watch Inside Man. Good one. Denzel. great movie great movie and then you think to yourself okay if i ever if this brain i don't want it to i'm not going to tell it to okay i'm not going to tell it to but if it happens upon a bank and i come up with a genius idea to rob this fucking place let's not enact on it no but let's write a movie about it for sure that is where i learned from inside man inside man somebody was like i could fucking rob this place if i wanted to all you gotta do is do a false wall if i can live back here they'll never know get through this thing they'll be able to do it it's like genius As I was watching, I'm like, this guy's a fucking genius.

3:15:13Pat McAfee:And then you immediately think, oh, the person who wrote this movie. It's like, all right, I either rob a bank or I make money off the idea. So let's make sure we keep that thing. Let's always be thinking. And let's not rob banks. Oh, let's certainly maybe make movies about stealing decorations. Don't have to actually steal the decorations. You can just make a movie about stealing decorations. It'd be a heck of a movie. Inside Man is so good. Yeah, speaking of thievery and jails, I believe, unless I got Centel'd, they caught the two guys who stole the Napoleon gems from the Louvre. And I guess they were worth$100 million, allegedly.

3:15:48Might have gotten got. I don't know, but that's what I read online.

3:15:50Pat McAfee:That was crazy that that place got robbed. And then all the information that was kind of coming out about what the state of the current Louvre was and what was real, what wasn't real was hard because everything is straight out of a movie there. Oh, yeah, big time. That shit's literally straight out of a movie. George Clooney's giving his nod of approval to what they did. It's like, all right, we don't need that hitting the internet right now, Centel. Alright Barry We don't need that on the internet right now We're all trying to learn information right now as we go That was crazy that that took place That was wild And then we got people stealing decorations Is it 2004?

3:16:21The goddamn mad world we're living in Purge They gave the one guy on the left The one that didn't get the skeleton They gave him one job to do The other guys They did their job That guy, I can't wait to see that guy Can't wait He's probably smacked off jungle juice, dude. See, he cut off a little more than he can chew. There's six guys on one skeleton. He thought he was going to carry that one by himself. So, Mr.

3:16:47Pat McAfee:Skelly right here that's getting taken out of your front yard by a group of codes, by a group of youths, that is right there a tough moment. This one over here, don't really get talked about much. He gets his face bashed off of something pretty hard whenever old buddy. Do you have sound on this? Do we have sound on this? Oh, yes. There it is. There it is. Down goes Skelly. I woke up to my neighbor that sent me a message the next morning, and he was like, hey, I put your skeleton back up. It was just laying. The head was in the middle of the street. I'm like, yeah, I know. Does it still work? I know.

3:17:21It still works.

3:17:22Pat McAfee:That's the gritness here of Skelly that we're talking about. Exactly. That's why the kids fell in love with other Skellys so much. This is a tough group. The spine is disconnected, though. That's the most important part. It's the most important part. Well, on a skeleton, Yeah. The spine is kind of the whole thing. It holds the whole thing up. I had to pull the head back, or I mean the spine back to put the head on. The head can't twist in because those pieces broke, but it is sitting there. Do you remember that skeleton costume that was just a onesie you put on? Oh, yeah. I pissed my pants at her one time.

3:17:53Pat McAfee:Couldn't get out of it. That'll happen. I couldn't get out of it. You had no choice. How old were you? I was young. It was either... Like 29? No. It was junior high or high school. I just thought of it. Ran somewhere to go to the bathroom. Couldn't get out of it. I was trapped in there. I couldn't get out of it. I tried to find some scissors. I was in a bad spot. Immediately upon exiting the bathroom, I remember being called out for it. What do you mean? No, I didn't. It's hot in here. I'm sweating. Let's go home, man. I gotta go home. You guys watching fucking the Blair Witch Project in here?

3:18:34Pat McAfee:I don't want to watch your shit in here. All right, AQ. We need to do a giveaway. All right, let's do it. We need to do a giveaway. What did you say was your favorite? The big cups? Yeah, Reese's big cups. We'll give away 30 Reese's big cup packages. Boom. Okay, we'll give away our own little Halloween. Yeah. It's not a trick. It's actually a treat. But AQ needs to do a trick to get some treat. He's going to throw a football into that basketball hoop over there if it appears is what he's going to do. AQ, AJ has something to say to you here to maybe make this a successful giveaway of these Reese's Big Cups.

3:19:13Yes, AQ, I know you're going to do great. You're going to drain this. But I have a question. If these young hooligans show up to your door with Mr. Skelly all beat up and they say, hey, sorry, we saw a clip from the show. We want to return this to you. They give you their names and they're actually up front. Would you be okay with that? Would you not beat them to a pulp? you just said they gave me Skelly back beat up?

3:19:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, you know, Skelly's fine. Skelly is how we saw him last on the ring cam. Yeah, for sure. But they admit it. They don't just drop it and run. They admit it and they come up as men and they apologize. As a group of men would do. Yeah, I would be okay with that. Okay, so this is an official answer because throughout the last couple hours you have not given an official answer. Well, there was no – the original thing was just a drop-off. Like drop-off, no ring the doorbell, no say hi, hi. How you doing? Oh, so you want more interaction with these guys. Yeah. They're trying to find out. They just want answers.

3:20:04Maybe they invite you to their party.

3:20:06Pat McAfee:What if they say, yo. I'm in. Why don't you come get Skelly for us? Because you saw how we were actually – it got much worse after we left your front yard. We couldn't carry that thing. We actually carried them by one leg. Skelly actually lost the other leg. That thing's still your neighbor's yard. So, Skelly might come back a little bang, but could you also carry this back to your house? Because we don't want to do that. You would do that. Skelly can't fit in a car either, though. Was there a car parked somewhere? Because where did they put him? These things are smart. They got a Sprinter van.

3:20:32Pat McAfee:Yeah. Sprinter van, pickup truck. Yeah. Sure. They got a chicken limo maybe out there. Something to shove that thing in. One time in college, we took a beer pong table from one house to another house about three miles away. You just hold it on top of the roof. Oh, yeah. While you're driving. Yeah. That's probably what they did with Skelly. It's even better than wrapping it. Yeah. Yeah. It's even better than wrapping it because guess what? We got all hands on deck, actually. Exactly. And it's aerodynamic. And yeah, certainly. I assume that's what they did with Skelly. Yeah. And one guy actually might have laid across him on top as they held his hands.

3:20:59Pat McAfee:and his feet. So they did strap it down. We don't know. We'd assume it was the fuck that left his shit. Yeah, exactly. The one that had to come back. Oh, no, no. Yeah, he's the one that they're using across the top. Oh, my phone. Oh, no. Evidence. Anybody else leave anything? No, you fucking idiot. We didn't bring anything. They're tracking our phones, maybe. Oh. All right. A.Q. Shipley, the man who lost his decorations from a bunch of hooligans just a couple days ago, who can now win 30 people. Some treats from the Thunderdome. AQ for the people. Reese's Big Cubs! Got the right line. That was one of your better efforts, I would, too.

3:21:46Pat McAfee:I tried to take some off. Do you think you should throw more because this is worth a combined$60 as opposed to what is normally worth$20 ,000 to$25 ,000? Yeah, for sure. One more. Yeah, one more. One more. He'll do one more. Here we go. Now, obviously, this is his first try at attempting this. Don't bother what you just saw. This man is at a brand-new mindset. He can potentially win 50 Reese's Big Cups for 50 random people. All he's got to do is put that football under that hoop right over there. Con man, what are your thoughts on maybe 50 Big Cups going out of the door? I mean, 50 Big Cups, it's awesome.

3:22:21And also, AQ, good shoes. The shoes you wore the last couple weeks suck. and boy oh boy they nailed the color schemes we wanted but you can do this.

3:22:32Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what seeing this up live in person for like potentially me is a whole different game than just watching on AQ's body. Good right? What's that? Great man. Yes they certainly are. I'm going to be honest Cam seems like an incredible guy. I learned about him. I checked out his Instagram page. I'm very thankful. This guy's a fucking beast. I'm not saying he's not a beast. I though okay it's hard for me with these eyes to just go like this and then accidentally do one of these and see those on my body i just i don't know why i can't do it i don't like it you should wear them for u-ball i mean you'll jump yeah fucking right i mean what are we talking about the confidence is what i'm talking about i don't have enough mental toughness like you do to be able to look down and see those on a feet and be like yep should walk in public you know what i mean that That's where I'm at.

3:23:26Pat McAfee:But they are incredibly comfortable. If I was to go on a run, I would put those on, Cam. I'm not a big-time runner because my knees are terrible. But if I was to, which I'm – hey, these might actually save my knees. Good point. Okay, Cam, when I run, I'll wear those, Cam. And thank you for sending those to us and being a badass. It's just hard for me to look down and see them. Sure. On my – you know what I mean? In public. Pretty cool, though. Yeah, but I'm not 90 years old. I should, you know. We're getting there. You're right. You're right. And maybe I should try them out. I did those hokas for a little bit.

3:23:54Love the hokas

3:23:55Pat McAfee:The hokas were sick They were all white though These ones have a lot of pizzazz These shoes have a lot of pizzazz Did you know that? I know D-Bone was wearing a pair when I came in last Friday What? Size 19 Thank you Those are what I'm going to run in You guys see me out and about You're going to see me running in those You know what? I'll commit to a half marathon at some point Okay. Boom. Full marathon. I'll run it with you. Full marathon? Half. We'll start on the half. All right. Let's do a 5K. Okay. We'll commit to a 5K. I'm not a runner. Walk or run. Here, how about this? Pat Tillman run out in Arizona.

3:24:39When is it? April.

3:24:42Pat McAfee:What day is it? October, November. It's not the day of the draft. November, December. You never know, though. That's a good question. Yeah. Hey, listen. You had me as soon as you said Pat Tillman. Let's. I think it's a 5K. 4.2 miles. Is that what it is? Yeah, there you go. 21st annual Pats run. Number 42. When is it? Oh, April 2nd, maybe. Okay. That's what we'll do. 4.2 miles. There it is. I'll run it with you. All right. Bowen said he's going to run it, too. Thank you, Bowen. That's very good of you, Bowen. I once did the start of the Grand Canyon to the end of the Grand Canyon, those things.

3:25:17I didn't feel a thing.

3:25:20Pat McAfee:that was set in here within the last 24 hours AJ will you do this as well I can walk a 4.2 mile situation with these shoes I don't have any I don't have any we got your pair and we got a hat too that was sent to us we got a pair for you you got these shoes and you got a very cool hat so just know that that's on it's way so you will commit to that I will commit to possibly walking the 4.2, yeah. Okay. It's not a commitment and saying possibly afterwards and then it not being what we're doing. So that's not – I think you just kind of abused the situation. I'll join you guys. Yes, I will join you guys and wear those amazing shoes.

3:26:02Pat McAfee:But you're wearing shoes in the process of leading up to it. You see, that's what we're saying. Oh, I have to, like, work out in and go in public in those? I wouldn't recommend that. I wouldn't go that far. I'll run I'm going to talk it I'm going to flop it We're going to talk it What am I going to wear for the 4.2 miles? With those It doesn't even matter Is this a private run? Nope I know it's 4.2 miles in a house Sometimes I don't know That's going to be tough for me to do I'll do it Shout out to Cam for sending the shoes honestly. He knew that there's no way in fucking hell I would ever wear those things.

3:26:46Pat McAfee:And I'm very, very thankful that he sent them because guess what it just did? It got me into running. And it got me back into running. Now you're a runner. Now you're a runner. So are you age? You committed to it possibly? No, I never committed to running. The slow run, I am not a slow runner. I'd probably run a 15 minute mile if I had to run four laps around the track. It's April 11th is when this takes place. Perfect. I do fear that I have something. I did hear your April was pretty booked up. That's a couple days after the national championship. You got mania. That's the week of mania. Yeah, that's the only problem.

3:27:23It's also the weekend of the Masters as well. Oh.

3:27:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, but we're off for the Masters. I mean, that actually gives you a head. You didn't have to be. What? D-Bone can win that thing. Hey, we pitched. We asked to go down. You remember when we asked to be live from Augusta? Yeah. Boy, oh boy. Hindsight there. Shocked it didn't happen. Just even more so now, like with everything that we know. There was multiple parties saying, absolutely not. Let alone the hardest group to get in. This other one, I guess. Yeah, we'll check. Yeah, that is so funny to think that. That was at one point an actual thought. Boys, with this licensing with ESPN and the properties that they have, there is a chance that we were able to do our show live from fucking augusta national boys think about that think about it we'll do the whole fucking gimmick we'll do the thing for him obviously that's what we thought and then we start having conversations like yeah yeah we'll certainly put that out that's a good idea that's it because you're trying to get yeah yeah that's good yeah go back to the board there's a chance it sounds like there's an actual chance here Yeah, fucking right.

3:28:35Pat McAfee:Yeah. That was never, ever going to happen. No, it wasn't. For the better, by the way. Yeah, we don't deserve that, to be honest. But us thinking we're going to do it. So what I'm saying is there was a time where we thought we were working Masters Week. And it turns out that we are not working Masters Week, which has become kind of nice. Very nice. Shout out to whoever said it. Same with March Madness. Multiple places. Yeah, it's been pretty nice. Incredible. To be able to enjoy it. And this year, 4.2 miles. Let's go.

3:29:07Look at those shoes while you do it.

3:29:09Pat McAfee:How long have I gone here, you think? At least a mile. At least a mile. You're almost done. You're almost done. I mean, you guys can't take anything serious. What? Two and a half miles? Yeah, right. You have pretty good pace. I thought I was moving a little bit. If you were in the shoes, if you were in the shoes, think how springy you'd be. You'd be covering so much ground. I'm not doing it. All right. Thank you. 50 big cups. Holy shit. Out the Thunderdome. On this glorious Halloween week, all you gotta do is put that football into that hoop right over yonder. Jesus. Jesus can't help you. He's dead.

3:29:53Pat McAfee:I knew it was short. He died for our sins. But both online? Both online. Yeah, sure. Now, Jesus is in this building. And even he couldn't help that throw I know Freewell gives you a lot of different things In this particular case, a terrible Terrible throw He had enough Jesus Christ Yeah, I was thinking the same I'm sorry I didn't know AQ It just didn't appear as if you could with how shitty that throw was You understand, you saw it Amen Good work out of you AQ, great work today I didn't know A.J. was that anti-religion AJ was just disgusted with that throw. Yeah. I think he was. Oh, he just texted.

3:30:35It just dropped me in case we didn't know.

3:30:37Pat McAfee:Who's it, bro? Tell him him. It just dropped me. I mean. That was a bad throw, too. Yikes. That was worse than yours.

3:30:50Pat McAfee:Do you know the new throw is under him? Yeah, I know. I saw you do it last week. It's diabolical.

3:30:59Pat McAfee:All right, we're going to go play some U-Ball. Okay, let's do it. Hey, good luck to everybody. Good luck to everybody. Good luck to everybody. Good luck to everybody. I'll tell you what. There was some breaking news this morning out of the U-Ball world. Wow. There might be a fucking prodigy coming through. Honestly, legitimately, surprise of the morning was Bruce Brown's breaking news on X, who is the official U-Ball insider and leak. Ernest is a real player. He's a baseball player in high school, so he thought maybe he should throw. Because I said, hey, throwing is a style. It was pioneered by a guy who's your biggest fan.

3:31:34Pat McAfee:And he said, let me just shoot it like a basketball. Made it. Made the next one. Made the next one. This guy won 4-6. Pretty good. Really good. That'll play. Yeah, that'll play. Now, he was in some cowboy boots, and I don't know how much he's moving on the defensive end, but Ernest, I believe, is a free agent. And what I heard rumblings, and I don't want to put the Fatso Bones in any trouble here. From Bruce Brown, the official source of U-Ball, allegedly D-Bone's looking to sign Ernest to his team and drop all of his other partners. Is that what you were hearing, Bruce, in the U-Ball universe?

3:32:06JJ Watt:Yeah, I mean, we were all present for D-Bone waistbanding it all morning when Ernest was around. I do think and have confirmed with sources that he is considering moving on from his current partners if Earn Dogg is available.

3:32:23Pat McAfee:Okay. Earn is hilarious, by the way.

3:32:25JJ Watt:Yeah, the man.

3:32:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, Earn is absolutely – he gave me this jacket. I don't think he – I don't know if he gave it to me or just left it here the last time he was here. Right. He left something. Yeah, he is. He's a earnest. Earn, you're a hilarious dude, and he might be the best U-ball player of all time. I've never seen somebody make the amount of shots he made. Seriously. Good crew. Yeah, great crew. Whole squad. Matt, Dylan, boys. All right, have a good one. We're out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. What's tonight? World Series? Yeah. How'd hockey go last night? 109 goals on it. A lot of goals. A lot of games.

3:32:55A lot of big plays. A lot of big hits. And unfortunately, the Pittsburgh Penguins fell short.

3:33:00Pat McAfee:No, they got a point. They got a point, though. They're still hot. I saw the graphic. Sid Crosby was all right. He scored. They got a point. Sid scored. They did not lose. They got a point. Oh, we tied. Lost every time? Yeah. Shoot up? goal in overtime, it got taken back. Oh, we're getting screwed. What happened? They scored a goal in overtime, it got taken back as well. Well, he got screwed again. So what happened? Gino jumped on the ice and the goalie wasn't off the ice yet. He was a little too eager. That's classic Gino. Yeah, but isn't there kind of like a gray area there whenever it comes to that?

3:33:32Pat McAfee:Yeah. I don't think the goalie was particularly close to the gray area. Oh, he's still on the ice. He's very clearly on the ice. Gino, come on. He can't be doing that. He thought the goalie He's going to be a little faster maybe. You can't even get mad at him for it because, you know, he was trying to make a play trying to win the game. Yeah, Marc-Andre Fleury would have gone over there faster. That's all I'm saying. The current goalie named. King Slovis. Was that our sweet prince? Sweet, sweet Slovis. Fat Slovis is still in there. Artur Shilovs. Who? Artur Shilovs. Better known as King Slovis from his days with the Cougars.

3:34:03He's a good, young, talented goalie.

3:34:05Pat McAfee:Slow-ass skater, though. He needs to figure that out. He does. Sounds like it. Yeah, he's affecting us on the offensive end. I wouldn't, you know, we've seen what Jari has done over the years. Let's, you know, let's appreciate Slovis here. Yeah, you're right. Jari was a fast skater, but we were always having to pull the fucking goalie because we were always losing because he could never stop a fucking puck. Yeah. Tell you what surprise of the year might be. The Utah Mammoths have the best record in the NHL. Ooh. Ryan Smith. So much money into that place. So much money. Isn't it crazy whenever you have, like, a fully invested ownership operation?

3:34:37Pat McAfee:It matters. Big time. In everything. I mean, the Lions just paid Aiden Hutchinson$141 million. Everything changed when Sheila Fordham took over. College ball now. Same thing. Active ownership, which is active boosters. Tell you what, one of the big three is getting a lot of flowers on the internet. Carly? She on the side there? Yep. Yeah, it's really cool. Carly looked so fucking sweet this past weekend. She had her grandma's USA jacket on for a salute to service weekend. It was USA. It had an American flag on the back of it. It was bedazzled. She had black leather pants on. and then she had white suede and black shoes.

3:35:11Pat McAfee:She looked like Michael Jackson. Great game day fit. She was fucking, she looked so fucking sweet. She was standing there obviously doing her thing and we saw her from the side and it just was a USA jacket across the back. I'm like, Jesus Christ, what is this? She's absolutely slaughtering it over there. And everybody was making fun of her obviously because it's very different. And then she started explaining herself and started talking more about it. And it's like, hey, I'm about to make like millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars and decisions on people. And I wasn't lucky enough to grow up playing football.

3:35:42Pat McAfee:I've been around the team. I've been around the NFL. But I don't really know the ins and outs. Whenever she was first coming around running the day-to-day operations, it was during maybe 2011, 2012 is whenever she was full-time back in every single day. She'd been around, obviously, a lot, but, like, it became, like, full-time thing. She would have Matt Hasselbeck come in, like, I think once a week, break some stuff down. She would have other people break stuff down. she would be trying to learn as much as possible. She was trying to catch up with as much as she possibly could. So whenever she moves down to the sideline, we all were like, yes.

3:36:13Pat McAfee:And she didn't give a fuck either, by the way. Carly will wear whatever the hell she wants. Hey, she's very comfortable and very confident in who the hell she is. She's a dog, too, like an absolute beast. Carly is a beast. And once she starts going down there, everybody's like, this is terrible. This is a stupid idea, a stupid idea. And then she's like, I'm just trying to fucking learn what's going on. okay yeah i'm just trying to learn what's going on my job and then like as she's continuing to do it and you hear coaches be like not a problem we're winning seven and one she's on a thing it's like nobody views it as a problem actually what i think a lot of people are saying is like hey maybe my fucking owner should have a clue what the hell's going on so whenever they're making decisions in the future that's good for the franchise they actually know what's kind of taking place it's interesting the kind of narrative around it and it's like yeah i'm happy she's getting her flowers because she's been very invested in this for years.

3:37:02Pat McAfee:This is years of this happening now at this point, not just this year. It's good when owners are invested in the right ways because obviously she wants to know what's going on because she's going to make all the decisions, but she's also not, you know, overstepping. Like she's not telling the coaches what to do and stuff like that. She just wants knowledge, which is good for owners. Yeah, and then Kaylin, obviously with the brand, everything she's doing with kicking the stigma, she's getting awards for how much they're investing in everything and in the city. It's like, and then Carly, obviously, Carly and Casey, I'm sorry, uh in their in the building every single day as well it's like they're i think the way they described it i don't want to speak out of pocket here is like um it's a pretty interesting thing preparing for this moment because that means you know what had to happen so like their entire lives they've been talking about this moment but they knew when this moment would come what would have had to happen for that to take place so it's devastating while also feeling like prepared and preparing for something and it's like they're killing it right now oh yeah and that cult's culture is all the way back.

3:37:59Pat McAfee:And you still feel Jim Irsay around all of it. So it's a really cool season we've got going on right now. But you look around, Sheila Ford Ham. As soon as she becomes owner up there, everything kind of changes. It's an interesting dynamic. It's a very interesting dynamic with new ownership, new heads, new minds. Yeah, and for them, in a situation like that where it's like you're a billionaire, but they care about their family's legacy too. This team, especially with Mr. Ursae passing away, it's nice to know that the bottom line isn't the only thing that matters. They know how much people around here care about it.

3:38:36The Colts haven't been this good for a long time now. They care about their family's legacy moving forward. And you can throw Katie Blackburn in there. Say what you want about the Bengals, but she cares about that business. Although she has said a lot of things, at least she is in the building and she's trying. even though a lot of us don't have...

3:38:54Pat McAfee:They've evolved, though. Yeah, exactly. They haven't been perfect, but they've certainly evolved from what they were. And it's like, yeah, I think people should be checking out Carly's fits, too. She fucking slays that thing. Just how comfortable she is. Big-ass dress.

3:39:11JJ Watt:It's cool to see them on the field on game day. I think that's really rare for owners, I feel like.

3:39:16Pat McAfee:They have that meeting. Owners will have a pregame meeting where they'll have like a flock of like six security people, ancillary friends and family, and they'll do the walk across and then like the two parties will gather and then the owners will meet and they'll do that entire thing. And then normally everything kind of separates. Yeah, it's like Kalen's running around like meeting, talking to everybody, thank you for coming. Carly's doing the same exact thing, chatting with people.

3:39:39JJ Watt:Halftime stuff even, it's cool.

3:39:41Pat McAfee:It's like it very much feels like it's like a community-owned. It's an interesting dynamic that's happening over here. Yeah. And God damn it, we're good at football. Yeah, it's working. We are good at football. Who's number one offensive line in the NFL this week? Colts. Let's get the hell out of here. AJ, we love you, buddy. Love you, AJ. Love you, AJ. Love you, AJ. This is that Onion article. Yeah, exactly. Unfortunately. Should just put him up there. That face. That same thing. So funny. In the Onion article. We missed it, we missed it, we missed it. Just thought of it. Next time we should think of that, though.

3:40:12Pat McAfee:Let's dump that so nobody knows that we're going to do that. Sure. Good call. Good call. Next time this happens that we put that picture up, certainly. Good call. And then we just head to the end. All right, A.J., we talked to him a couple times. Yeah, exactly. That's the move. All right, I'm happy we got dumped that so nobody knows. Okay, boom. All right, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Happy Halloween week, everybody. AQ, great work, buddy. Great work to you guys. Anything to say to the team? Well, see, we're coming up on week nine of the NFL season, and now it is go time.

3:40:44November, December football. This is where we find out what we're made of.

3:40:47Pat McAfee:Hell yeah! Hell yeah. Got a winner's graphic coming up right after this. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.