PMS 2.0 1445 - Watt Wednesday, Peter Schrager, Calvin Johnson, Stanford Steve, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

14:15Darius Butler:98.7 Arizona Sports. Nice. Nailed it.

14:20Pat McAfee:Your peers. Hell yeah. But what's next for Kyler? You assume that maybe another team will say, hey, if we get him in our building, he'll be able to be unbelievable. But is there a little bit of Kyler that's maybe thinking, hey, I could see that curve. I could see that curveball. And he's still young enough. He's still young enough to potentially be able to do that. How impossible would that be in that conversation? And how realistic? Probably not that much because other teams will want him. But we're talking about a freak athlete here whenever we're chit-chatting about Kyler. And I think that gets forgotten about with all the other stuff.

14:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean. Video game stuff. Right. Pausing the contract stuff. And then this stuff and that stuff. It's like, hey, we're talking about a special elite athlete that has ever been one of one. Top 10 in both football and MLB. So I think that kind of gets lost in the conversation of all this. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he hasn't played baseball in like six years, and who knows how much he's going to the batting cages. Because I'm sure he can still do that kind of stuff pretty easily. But the big thing is he hasn't played in six years. So it's not like he's going to be able to, let's say he's done with football, he's not going to go sign with the Red Sox and then be on their opening day roster.

15:29I see Russell Wilson training camp. Are you sure?

15:31Pat McAfee:I see Russell Wilson. Hey, Russell Wilson comes jogging up. Yeah, he goes to spring training. He gets two at-bats. He strikes out. He looks like an idiot against a guy who has been playing baseball and hasn't just taken six years off. I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right now. I hope he does too. That would be awesome. That would be awesome. That would be awesome. Hey, this guy can't hit a curveball either. And what if Russell Wilson says to you in response to him in a tweet, says, I'd take you yard ten times just straight. Why don't you pitch against Russell Wilson? I would love to, and I would hope Russell Wilson would take me yard ten times because he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

16:02He's an unbelievable athlete, and he's also got drafted to play in But how sick would that be if you struck his ass out? That would be pretty sick. And you know what? I was going to say, he's never seen my knuckle curveball. So we'll say that. But the big thing about Kyler is you make$200 million. If you had made$200 million, do you want to go back down and play single A, double A, and be on buses with guys? That's never going to happen, ever.

16:27Pat McAfee:Is that what he has to do? Yeah. There's no way that – I mean, I suppose he could get invited to a team spring training, and then all of a sudden it's like he's batting.500, he hits a bunch of homers, but there's just no... Imagine Kyler walking into spring training, having played in six years, how do you do? Steps in there, bomb. But it'd also be a thing with Tebow. You know how much every one of those guys is relishing like, I'm going to strike this motherfucker out. This guy thinks he can just come in. Yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying. It's completely different. And obviously Tebow, like these guys knew that was kind of more of a publicity stunt.

17:06Like, yeah, he had played baseball before, but like Kyler, you know, I mean, he couldn't catch a pop-up. I mean, yeah, he got pop-ups bouncing off his head going into the crash.

17:15Pat McAfee:I was somebody that played Frontier League Baseball alongside Michael Jordan as well. I would say what I was doing, a little bit of a publicity stunt. A little bit of a publicity stunt. I had a microphone. I was mic'd up having a conversation, maybe a little ahead of our time. now that you look at that entire thing. Tim Tebow was on these buses driving time to time. I don't think he was doing it. I think he was trying to make it in MLB. I think he was trying to do it. I agree. He absolutely was. Do you think, personality-wise, how similar do you think Tim Tebow and Kyler Murray are? So let's get rid of all the bus taken in the single eight.

17:53That's a pretty big part of it, though. Let's get rid of it. It's out of the way. Okay, all right. Now we're double A. Every game is in his backyard. Bingo. Okay. They're traveling to him. Yeah. He's got the money. We're buying the tickets. Exactly. Okay.

18:06Pat McAfee:Let's say he moved double A out of there, too. Let's say he goes in triple A, okay, like they did with Mr. Skeens. Okay, he comes in triple A. Maybe here in Indianapolis. Maybe. It would be great to have him. Ooh. Not a chance that they would just drop him into triple A because he's a 28-year-old who might be a special talent. There's a chance because I assume with a guy like that, like you said, he is one of one. It could be like riding a bike, but it's a lot. It's obviously very difficult. All these guys talk about how hard it is to hit a baseball, and I'm assuming that if you're going to be an NFL quarterback, there can't be any.

18:40He is all NFL. He hasn't probably thought about baseball for six years.

18:44Pat McAfee:That's not what I've heard, potentially. Really? I've heard that maybe there is back to ball in some of the workouts in the offseason. Okay, so if that's the case, yeah. Again, it might be like riding a bike. No, no, no. We are not telling you you should quit football. Okay? I'm not telling you that. But I'm saying, if an opportunity presents itself for you to be one of the first of all time to do something, I wonder if that is something that kind of spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe go and get it. Or another NFL team would say, hey, yeah, you get in our building. You'll be, imagine him with Kevin O 'Connell.

19:12Pat McAfee:Not that he will, because J.J. McCarthy is certainly going to be a guy. But you start thinking about, like, offensive gurus like that. If McDaniel got, you know, with Caleb Williams, would they be able to time something up and be able to come and fish an offense, especially because he has an absolute host. Now, can you break down a defense? Will he spend all that type of stuff is the whole conversation? But we're talking about a special talent. We need to never forget that idea.

19:33AQ Shipley:NBA, obviously he's not coaching now, but you would think a lot of coaches probably still think like him, especially offensive-minded coaches. NBA definitely was not out on him. He's still, hey, Kyler can still be a guy. There's still a lot of tread on his tire. And he's 20-something years old. We talk about the freak athlete that he is. He has the arm talent. We've seen quarterbacks go to different systems and different coaches and, you know, personality and all that stuff matters as well. But, you know, still, I think we'll obviously see Kyler Murray on the football field. But, I mean, look, I would love him.

20:03I don't want to see him die in single A.

20:06AQ Shipley:Kyler, you're representing the NFL now. MJ did it, right? Where'd he go? Where was the Barons? Yeah, Birmingham Barons. I blew double A. Okay. Yeah, he did. I mean, you know, MJ ain't too much shit now. Well, back then, also, there was no internet. There was no Call of Duty. I don't think there was no really anything else to do, you know. So, well, there's... MJ has shit to do. Always did, didn't he? He was good at all of it. How about his, like, legendary golf stories? Playing 36 holes before, like, a game four or whatever, game three. Mm-hmm. Scoring 50. Yeah. I played 36 holes with this guy.

20:42Pat McAfee:He's playing tonight. It's a playoff game. Drops 32. Winks at me as he's going out. It's unbelievable. Guy, different. Couldn't even imagine him in the modern world, you know, with all the content that is happening. Imagine him on a golf course day of a playoff game. Imagine if they caught Tyrese's big ass on the day of a playoff game. He would get absolutely eviscerated. Joining us now is a man who might have a little bit more information on all the moves that we saw yesterday. He's an insider everywhere. Has friends literally in every single building. Now he's with ESPN, formerly Emmy Award winner at NFL Network.

21:14Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Schrager, how you doing, brother? We're talking about Kyler Murray. Any thoughts on that entire situation over there? I'll tell you this. I was there Monday for that Monday night football game, and I'm walking around the field before the game, and I'm talking to everyone, doing my thing, kind of kissing babies, shaking hands, whatever. And everybody in Arizona was talking about Jacoby Brissett and how good he had been the last five weeks and what a shame it was that he wasn't able to get the victory. He made three walk-off field goals, and the elephant in the room is there's Kyle Amuri standing there.

21:45He's dressed in a Dallas Stars jersey. He looked great, and he's there on the sidelines, and he was 9-0 in his life going back to high school. school college and the pros in that building and he was just a complete non-factor in this game because he's out with the injury but the juice around jacoby was so real that i came away from this one thinking like i don't know if they're just pumping him up or not but like there's maybe a future with jacoby brissette as the guy there the problem is kyler's contract the next three years it's over like 100 million dollars in dead cap cap space so what do you do with that but in a post russell wilson era where teams just say rip the band-aid off that that might be the move I'll say this.

22:24They are still paying Cliff Kingsbury his full salary. They are still paying Steve Kime his full salary. Those guys are from a different era. Those are the guys who brought Kyler in. These new guys, Gannon and Monty Osinfort and his crew, they didn't draft Kyler. They didn't sign him to that extension. And if you go to the owner and say, hey, we tried it for two years. We're going to move on. We've got to take a financial hit. We'll figure it out. They might be more open to it than if they were the guys who actually drafted him.

22:51Pat McAfee:That's crazy. Anytime you got a new GM or a new coach, new power, you have new allegiances and new loyalties and new visions. You know, how you see a team being is not necessarily the team that you've inherited whenever you're in charge. And I experienced it. You know, we got a new GM and I was literally told during the negotiation process that there is no loyalty between us. And it was like, really? Yeah. I was literally told that piece of information. It was like, oh, OK, sounds good. So I'm gone, I guess. and then jim ursay says nope you're franchise tag brother you're not going anywhere for at least a year we're gonna figure this shit out and i was very thankful for jim for that but there was certainly a time where new gm came in and i was not a good punter but i'm low main on totem pole and i'm being told that couldn't even imagine whenever it's 20 of your salary cap 22 of your salary cap as you're trying to build this team up it takes a lot of courage to make that decision on that note the big three here in indianapolis sign off on a massive trade to get sauce gardener to the Indianapolis Colts.

23:49Pat McAfee:He'll be wearing the number one. Obviously, two ones and A.D. Mitchell go to the Jets. Everybody that knows Sauce has said, man, awesome dude, awesome in the locker room, awesome player, you're going to love him. Fans and some other people say the Jets are getting two firsts and A.D. Mitchell for just Sauce Gardner. What is your take on how this trade played out? And I don't want to say winners or losers, but just maybe your takeaway from it all. I loved it for both sides. Indianapolis first Indianapolis first this is a team that looked at their roster and said okay we're not this young squad of just first and second year players like DeForest Buckner is a veteran and Quentin Nelson is a veteran and Kenny Moore and those guys deserve us to go all in at their ages and what they have done for the first half of this season to go all in and make this move I will tell you speaking to sources around the league and with both these teams Chris Ballard has been calling around the league for a move over the last several weeks.

24:50Sauce Gardner's name was not mentioned, but he had been calling the Jets about players on their team because they were obviously in a fire sale mode. About 48 hours ago, Sauce's name came up, and the Jets were not looking to trade Sauce Gardner. Remember, the same first-year GM who just traded him, Darren Mugi, signed him to a four-year,$120 million extension in July. And this is his first year, his first massive move on the defensive side of the ball. But when that deal came in, it was almost described as like a godfather deal that they offered that they could not say no. So I like it from the Colts side because Ballard looks at it and says, all right, we've got a veteran team.

25:28They're all healthy. We're playing good ball. We've got a crazy tough stretch coming in the next four weeks. We need to stay on the ball. This guy makes us that much better in an area of weakness. And from the Jets part of it, they just got what essentially the Cowboys got for Micah Parsons for Sauce Gardner, who's got 18 career wins in four years there. So they weren't going anywhere. They haven't won with Sauce and Quinn, and they were like, crap, we can't say no to that. And to Ballard, like, all chips on the table. Here we go. Like, we're all in on this team.

26:00Pat McAfee:Big swing. And if Sauce is the one that lifts this defense to, you know, to a place where we can win a Super Bowl, who cares about the future draft? B.A. said yesterday, whenever we got Gronk, the fourth round came around. We didn't have our pick, and we all just looked at our ring. Oh, there's our fourth round right there. There's our fourth round right there. That's pretty nice, and then we move along. First rounder, obviously different than a fourth rounder, but if this works out and we win, nobody will say a damn thing about anything else. I love it. You're right, and it's the same thing that talking to McVay and Sneed over the years when the Von Miller deal happened.

26:32Now, people always talk about that team, and it's F them picks, and they got Ramsey, and they got Odell, and all this stuff. Von Miller was the move at the trade deadline. They called Denver every day for about two weeks. And then finally, the last day, they were just banging on it so hard that Denver said, fine, take Von Miller here. We'll get the exchange. That's what this was. And I came on your show last week and I said, don't read all the stuff online. Don't listen to the thing. There's going to be a big name, but those names don't even become evident until the day of. I said that on this very show.

27:00I said, don't read it. Like, don't get fixated on the names that everyone else is talking about there's going to be a big name that goes the day of and that was sauce gardener because i will tell you sauce had no idea he was being traded other teams around the league were texting me being like did you know he was up for sale like he wasn't up for sale unless you offer two picks and a wide receiver that they can use on their team today i like that

27:20Pat McAfee:the culture that aggressive they're going to be judged for it going forward oh yeah and i think our team is in a good spot lou anarumo told us he's happy he's pumped up love the addition he It elevates the entire defense. What he just did for the team. Lou Anarumo is so excited. Think about where Lou was and what was going on. Losing all his players. We're not paying. Yeah, right. Defense? Stupid. Nobody's paying tickets. Nobody's buying shirts. We're selling jerseys on offense. We're not selling jerseys on defense. We're not paying any of your guys on defense. Lou's like, what am I supposed to do here?

27:54Pat McAfee:Figure it out. He loses. They say get the hell out of town. Chris Ballard. He's left out in the bag. immediately excuse me you're available right now yeah we would love to have you and guess what we're gonna do we're gonna sign three guys this offseason on defensive side and then right before trade deadline also we're gonna give you a guy another lockdown guy it's like lou anarumo sitting in a place that i assume he would any defense coordinator would love to be in team clearly investing on the defensive side of the ball while assuming that the offense is already figured out if this works that's great now on the flip side of that this new york jets team seemingly sending a message.

28:28Pat McAfee:You said fire sale. Go ahead, D-Body.

28:30AQ Shipley:Yeah, absolutely. Fire sale, just a full rebuild, letting go of these young, phenomenal players that you already paid. What's the vibe around Aaron Glenn? Do you feel like they'll be patient with Aaron Glenn and actually let him build? You would assume they're going to use this draft capital and go get a quarterback, kind of start that new chapter. But we've seen the Jets do this time and time again since probably Rex Ryan's departure. So what's your thoughts with Aaron Glenn and the patience level with him? You have to try to separate the history of this team, which has been plagued with quarterback selections in the top five that haven't panned out and have had success elsewhere and where they're hoping to go.

29:06I will tell you this, a lot of the organization was at the mangled services yesterday and they purposely held any news of these trades until afterwards. And Darren Mugi was like, I'm well aware of what's going on right now this morning during this. I'm not going to try to make a headline here. However, the night before these deals were pretty much done and put to bed and And they felt comfortable because now it gives them the flexibility to do what they want with a quarterback. We know that this isn't going to be the quarterback draft class of 04 or even 2023 or one of these groups where it was coming out like, hey, there are six guys.

29:41In fact, every week it seemingly changes who's the guy. So what this does is having five first or second round picks in the next two years, it gives you a little wiggle room. Do you want to trade up to get one in 26? Do you want to stay pat and get one in 26? Do you want to save that for 27? use those picks to maybe get one? Or do you want to package them and get a veteran quarterback in a monster trade because he's now got five first or second round picks? This didn't exist before yesterday. They didn't have this flexibility. They have this flexibility now. And before we say, well, the jets are going to screw it up.

30:13Let's give them a little grace. Darren Mugees actually have a pretty good draft. If you look at those rookies on that roster right now, they're playing pretty well in the offensive line, which was what the focus was has been really good. So let's see about it. Let's give him a little grace. Let's give him a little patience, but you can't hold regimes of the past and the failures of Zach Wilson and the failures of all the different quarterbacks that have come through here. You can't put that on Darren Mougie and Aaron Glenn just yet.

30:38Pat McAfee:Well, they paid Justin Fields 20 million a year. Now, obviously that is who they thought was going to be their quarterback. Maybe he will be. I mean, who knows how the rest of the season goes? And maybe they will save it for 2027. That's an interesting thing. You say you can't hold the regimes of the past uh or the current regime kind of their feet to the fire for the past regimes jets fans are oh yeah jets fans are just like yep that's what we thought we'll trade away all our young good players to try to find other good young players and then that'll work because we hit on these guys these guys are really good look other teams are willing to give up two first rounders and a wide receiver to get this guy no doubt we and that's the thing those guys that 2022 draft that Joe Douglas and Salah did got them.

31:22Obviously, Garrett Wilson, who is the offensive rookie of the year and is a solid receiver. Sauce Gardner, who just went for two first-round picks. Jermaine Johnson, who's an outstanding pass rusher. And Brees Hall, you're looking at those four names and you're like, gosh, they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink. Even with all those guys playing well, they stink. Quarterback matters. And it's becoming more and more evident every single day. And whether it's nature versus nurture and like, look, Sam Darnold's awesome on Seattle. He wasn't great with the Jets. And Zach Wilson might have a fine NFL career, didn't work with the Jets.

31:58You have to keep swinging the bat. You have to keep trying. But all those other players, those guys drafted pretty well. It doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback and that's where they're at right now.

32:06Pat McAfee:They kicked Aaron Rodgers out of the building. He's having an okay year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. No doubt. They outpaid everybody for Justin Fields. Sam Darnold was available from what we're understanding. So I'm not saying like, hey, let's make sure we give this current regime a chance here. But like, they're the ones that brought in Justin Fields and it's not working right. Aaron Glenn's the one that kicked Aaron out of the office immediately upon walking in after he flew four and a half hours over there. So it's like they've made a couple of decisions here early. Right. We've seen them already.

32:34Pat McAfee:And now they're halfway through their first year and saying next year's our first year. That's right. Next year's our first year. Next year's our team. I would like to wish Aaron Glenn, who I am a fan of, good luck in this entire venture. but if you're a Jets fan, I'm sorry, man. I am. I'm sorry. He's one of the most entertaining guys in the entire NFL. Now gone. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, poor kid. Kid crying. Yeah. Get another team. That's the first time he's experienced what life is as a Jets fan. No, he said in it, too. I don't want to be a Jets fan. Greeny pointed it out. Don't worry. I'll buy you a new jersey.

33:05That's it. He's wearing a Quinn and Williams jersey in the clip. He can't even make it up. Exactly. Speaking of Quinn and Williams, Shregs, I guess maybe that wasn't a shocker to some people. You said that. Yeah, you said it wasn't a shocker. Yeah, exactly. But what was kind of the idea around that whole thing? I saw a lot of people, Dallas fans in particular, kind of pissed off because it was kind of like, hey, we gave up everything we got in the Micah Parsons trade to get Quinn and Williams, and especially given what their record is and all that kind of stuff. How did this come to be, and does this kind of – are the Cowboys – do they just flip their defense?

33:42Are they all the way back now all of a sudden after getting Quinnen Williams and Logan Wilson? No, they're improved, though, because of these guys. You look at the four names, Kenny Clark, these two. Obviously, Logan Wilson is a good linebacker as much as people have been rolling their eyes because that was not some slam dunk headline-grabbing move, and we thought we were getting one. Quinnen's legit, and then Overshown comes back. So there you have four guys. at least you can say they're going to not be run all over by bam night and demarcato next time the Cardinals come in on a Monday night.

34:13You know, this, this factor, this is like they're three, five and one. And I don't know if this team is going to the playoffs and I don't necessarily think they are. They do have a rest of the season to play out. And in those games, they've got a primetime game against the Raiders on Monday night football. They got a Sunday night game against the lions. They got a Thanksgiving day game against the chiefs. They've got a four o 'clock window with Brady and Burkhart doing the Eagles game. They've got a Christmas day game on Netflix that we're going to have to do flips over where they play the commanders.

34:42So they're going to be on TV a bunch in your face. And I think honestly, the other day, Jerry was like, we have to stop the bleeding. He already put it out there saying earlier in the day he had a trade in his back pocket. And like he was hot to make a trade. I think Jerry was hot to make a trade. And I will tell you, talking to the people around the league, there wasn't an offer as good as this. And when it's out of division and out of conference, and it's a 28-year-old guy that we like, but I don't necessarily think we're winning because of. And his career record with the Jets was 31-67. I think it's okay.

35:18We can move on.

35:19Pat McAfee:I appreciate the angle that you're spinning here. The Sauce Gardner won 18 games. It's like Sauce Gardner won 18 games. that is uh that's a wild it's a hole that's a wild yeah but that's what you just said though like that is i understand the narrative is we have them on our team now we can't win so we have them not on our team we can't and they were the reason they won any of those games that's the problem and it's like well that's why you were trying to get young guys that are good is the entirety of like what you're doing in the draft and it's like i guess they already paid these guys so they're not considered young anymore you know i guess because they're already taking up so much of the salary cap but just being able to replace greatness i mean all right good luck good luck we are excited about it now on the flip side if i was building a team or in my first couple years or first year with the team and i was offered five first round picks over the next two years to build this team up in my uh kind of view and vision i would certainly say yes to that as well and now granted what i say 18 wins this corner 18 times we got to say 18 times we got to say yeah it was fun this guy but I understand the narrative is this team sucks we've had these great young players we suck so let's get some new great young players maybe we won't suck gotta get a quarterback so Jets fans should be excited Jets fans are pumped like 5-6 years from now you can be super excited No, the Jets are actually going all in on the future.

36:47Pat McAfee:So the future should be bright. Now, the future's not right now, okay? We got nine more weeks. Right. And this thing is going to happen. You know what I did see as well is they traded, you know, kind of a bunch of like stalwarts franchise players and then hit them immediately after with, boom, we're raising ticket prices next year. No. Yeah, they did. No, they didn't. They wouldn't do that. Is that why J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets.

37:17J-E-T-O-T-T-T-T-T

37:20Pat McAfee:Is that why Fireman Ed's pissed? Probably Do we have a health and wellness check? Is he pissed? On Fireman Ed? He's gotta be so upset dude

37:29Darius Butler:I think he's pretty pumped to retire for the fourth time He might be on another golf trip

37:36Pat McAfee:Fireman Ed ran towards fire He's not away from him He's allowed to go golf whenever the hell he did And he left early to get there in time What are you talking about? His golf trip. Well, it's the boys. You want him to show up the boys? That's what I'm saying. He said, I left the golf trip early. That's a big deal. Yeah. Yes, it certainly is. The end of it, too. Probably a sweet golf trip. Oh, my God. Imagine how many times. Every tee box. Yeah. Every time. Yeah, before every shot. We're at the halfway house. Do it again, Ed.

38:06Pat McAfee:Run it. They walk into the halfway house. There's like a little snack in there. are two people accidentally in there at the same time you want to see it yeah you do

38:17Pat McAfee:hey ed we love you man sorry you've been battling so that's a good bit that is a good bit we've got a lot of good stuff going there uh okay let's talk a little bit about yesterday aq shipley

38:27Darius Butler:has a question for you yeah obviously we keep talking about all of the trades that did get done what was the closest deal yesterday that didn't get done oh i was surprised aq that that there wasn't a fire sale in New Orleans. Now, I know they gave away Penning, and they also traded Rashid Shahid. But to me, I thought all those veterans, those guys, Demario Davis, Cam Jordan, Taysom Hill, Alvin Kamara, all those guys could be up for sale because that team's going nowhere either. And yet, they held on to those guys, even after a terrible loss to the Rams. So those guys will finish the year. And if I was thinking as a Saints fan, maybe like the philosophy the Jets had, where it's, hey, we're not going anywhere.

39:06We got a bunch of veterans. Let's unload them because there was interest in all those guys, but they didn't make those deals. The other name was that was being tossed around a lot was Brees Hall and the Jets didn't trade him. That was more of like a, Hey, that's our best offensive player this year. We're actually in on Brees Hall. And if he goes somewhere else in free agency, we'll get a compensatory pick that might be better than the value of what we were getting offered for him. So it's, it was, I was looking at the teams that were obviously sellers and some guys weren't sold and it was just like, well, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

39:36to get rid of them for like a fifth or sixth round draft pick.

39:39Pat McAfee:I like whenever, you know, is this good business for both of us comes to play, you know, at the very final hour, you know, whenever we're right up against it, are we going to do this or are we not? And it's like, well, I don't think we're getting good. You don't, and you kind of back out of those deals, always chirping, always chatting. That's why when these big ones happen, the amount of courage it takes to get that fun. Cause you know, do it. Schefter was reporting yesterday about how the deal's not done. The deal's not done. Quentin Williams and Dallas Cowboys. He goes, we're close. It's like, that's sometimes the hardest, you know, Now, when you're in goal line, pre-tush-push days, when you're in goal line, those are the hardest things to get.

40:11Pat McAfee:Negotiations and contracts can be that way as well. So to get to that point and then actually make it happen is a huge deal. So if your team's a buyer at all, like we are, so many people probably said probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not. So for your team to say, yes, let's go for it, that's why Tread Deadline Day is so beautiful. It's like, okay, now we know in the building they're going. Now we know that they view it the same way we do. You know what I mean, Shrags? yeah and it's and it's become different it wasn't this way five ten years ago it was more incentive to just keep your guys and just ride it out but i kind of loved yesterday because teams were taking swings and other teams were being honest with themselves and looking in the mirror and saying you know the jets case like what are we we're not winning with this so the the other part of that like dallas deal there was other teams that were calling about quinnon but when you start saying like the particulars of like all right we're gonna get the better of your two picks when it's the Dallas pick or the Green Bay pick because of Micah Parsons and you're going to give us the better of your two picks.

41:09That's the nitty gritty. That's the stuff that usually holds deals up. But both sides were motivated enough to get it done and Jerry bent on that one and now the better pick between the Packers and the Cowboys will be going to the Jets.

41:18Pat McAfee:Jerry Jones threw the snowball straight up in the sky. Here's Logan Wilson. I told you I got a trade coming in my back pocket. And then Quentin Williams. Great afternoon. Bang. Dallas Cowboys, I always stir some shit up. I told you literally yesterday. Didn't I just say this, I will stir shit up. And I certainly did. Everybody's talking about soft scardner. Soft scardner, that's cute. Dallas Cowboys just loaded up on the defensive line. Everybody said I'm a big dumb dipshit. We'll see how it all works out for him. Now, with the things you were talking about, the particulars, first rounder, second rounder, players being moved as well in both cases, Connor has a question for you.

41:51Darius Butler:Yeah, Shrey, to piggyback off of AQ a little bit, once those bigger trades, you know, went down, did trades like Jalen Waddell and Trey Hendrickson and Bradley Chubb, did those just become too pricey? Like, did they have a certain you know pick I know Waddle was allegedly fetching one first round pick but once Sosco's for two and a player did those prices get bumped up and is that why some things didn't happen I think so and I give credit to Champ Kelly who's the interim GM down in Miami Chris Greer gets fired you're handed this plate and it's basically like well I have no incentive to to not do anything I'm an interim GM I want to make moves I want to show the owner and the value just wasn't there for them Jalen Waddell was too good for what they were being offered.

42:32And then in the case of Bradley Chubb, you'd think that would be a very movable piece. They probably just didn't get what they thought was worth a player who could still be a good pass rusher for the rest of the season. So Jalen Phillips goes. Third round pick. That sounds about right, especially a guy in the final year of his contract. And then the other two is like, no, we're not going to trade them 20 cents on the dollar just to do it, which I appreciate.

42:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, I do too. But some of these trades that end up happening for really good players are mind-blowing. Randy Moss won for what? Fourth? Fourth, I believe. Fourth rounder. And Napoleon Harris, I believe, was the player. Hey, Napoleon was a dog. They used to talk about him. You fear Napoleon. This guy, a lot of spite. Favorite in New England.

43:10Darius Butler:A lot of it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Everyone, honestly, was the first Napoleon they accepted in New England.

43:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was like a full complex. It was a full complex they put together for him. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Shrags. You're the man. Oh, I love it. You guys are the best. Thank you. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Peter Shrags. Yeah, Shrags. Yeah, they didn't think they got enough for Waddle. Man, Waddle's a good player. Yeah. Put the tape on. Also got a sick celebration here to sell shirts. That's a whole other business that we don't even talk about. That got to be at least worth a second there, don't you think? Maybe third. How about whenever sauce goes for two ones, all of a sudden everybody at the trade deadline is like, oh, I didn't know we were giving up that shit.

43:45Pat McAfee:I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know we were giving up ones at the trade deadline. It did kind of come out of nowhere. We were like, oh, shit, we got sauce. Wait, Cam Little. Two first round picks. Two first round picks. These guys were yelling in the back and screaming. Yeah, the Cam Little interview is running. okay shout out to cam little his interview ran three times yesterday first time ever that anybody's conversation has run three times in the same show now in entirety one time but you know it got cut off both times we were trying to chit chat with the guy who just broke the longest field goal in nfl history record this weekend at 68 yards that thing's running all of a sudden in the back all you hear is yo yo people are going to the bathroom people are doing the whole thing got it let's go and then it pops up on screen sauce gardeners coming to the indianapolis goals Oh, my God.

44:28It's real. AI. Got to be AI. Nope. We're back. It's real. Okay, we're celebrating. Holy hell, the Colts are all in. Colts are all in. This is awesome. The big three. Of course. We knew that. They knew. We didn't do it. Goes for two first rounds. Two, two, two, two, two first rounds. Hold the phone.

44:44Pat McAfee:I didn't know we'd give up two first rounds at trade deadline. And then BA's like, who cares, baby? Who cares? You got Sauce Gardner. That's the real thought. Is your team good for right now? That's what trade deadline is for. Right now. This season. Now, when people want to judge it, they're talking about the future. What's the future look like? What's the future look like? The New York Jets get an A for that because of what the future is going to look like with who they're going to draft. It's like, well, all the Colts care about right now is this year. That is what that pick is for. Now, granted, we got sauce for multiple years.

45:10Pat McAfee:You just signed that deal, which is great. But this trade deadline move, especially if you're a buyer, it's like this piece sends us this year to where we want to go. You never know when your year is going to be your year. This Colts team thought they'd been good for the last couple of years. they're in the middle of it like wait a minute we've been building for this moment why would we not go for it they go for it and we make the biggest play trade deadline it's a beautiful

45:32AQ Shipley:thing absolutely this is definitely for this year but also for this window going forward I guess it's Daniel Jones window because this lets you know like hey we believe in the quarterback we're probably going to lock him up long term he's going to be driving the ship you got sauce now for multiple years you got Ward on the other side of him for multiple years you got Cam Bynum for multiple years Kenny Moore he's one of the highest paid nickelbacks in the league so you have one of the best secondaries uh definitely on paper and that should help those guys up front you know be able to get home too we don't necessarily have that elite closer up front but when you have multiple coverage guys in the back end that definitely helps the guys up front I think what

46:09Pat McAfee:we're seeing from the big three is if we win that's how the business grows you know some people that get maybe handed a team or kind of next generation of team are worried about literally just dollars, okay? Because this is the family business, just worried about dollars in this entire thing. But we've never really understood that because like any business, if you make a good business, that will make it more profitable. Look at the New England Patriots before Bill Belichick got there. Then you win for 20 years. Look at the valuation of the New England Patriots after you win. Like when you win, the business goes up.

46:42Pat McAfee:So this is just like with the Pittsburgh Pirates ownership where we go like, hey, if you were to actually put your money into the team, what might happen, think about this, your bottom line might be more because you're better and you're getting bigger deals and you're on more TV, more everything can happen. I appreciate that the big three seemingly with this move and with everything else that has happened this season with the moves and signings, they're like, yeah, we would like to win. I think Carly Arce in her opening press conference said, we want to be the greatest. We don't want, wins will happen if we're the greatest.

47:13Pat McAfee:However, we can make this team the greatest this is what we want to do. And it's like, they're living up to that right now. Yeah. And that's a sick precedent. I don't think they're going to be crazy. Like every single, they're not going to be like Carmine over there. Like, hey, we're known for doing this stuff. But I think they're very much like, yeah, we want to have good, we want to win. When we win, we live through the Peyton Manning era with the Indianapolis Colts. When we win, life is, you know.

47:37AQ Shipley:And they will be judged. Super Bowl, everything. You're everywhere. And they will be judged on this particular move. It's a big swing. Whenever you're sending that PJ out for somebody that you signed, whether it be a free agent, somebody you draft, whenever you send that bird out, that's going to be one of the signings, one of the moves that you will be judged for going forward. So I love them taking this swing while the offense is on kind of their historical run right now. Obviously, you hit a rope bump against the Steelers last week, but with Daniel Jones, with Jonathan Taylor, the O-line, and then these receivers around Daniel Jones, I feel like they're having career years too, and it's almost like just scratching the surface when they're going on that side of the ball.

48:12AQ Shipley:So for them to make the investment defensively, I mean, that's all you can ask for as a fan.

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49:15Pat McAfee:Hey, great to see you, too. Obviously, we're big fans of yours. We saw you pro football Hall of Fame weekend. Kept it moving. Nice to see you get celebrated every year amongst your peers, as you should. Tell me about Real Truck, because I know, okay, I think you did something well to save the world at one point. I think you got into some, maybe some greenery business at one point. Now, obviously, teaming up with Real Truck here for the announcement of their November 13th retail store opening up there in Rochester Mills, Michigan. Like, how are you so – the depth of businesses that you've been a part of, I want to let you know, almost as historic as your playing career.

49:50Pat McAfee:How did we get tied up with Real Truck, and what do we need to know about them? No, awesome. Appreciate that. No, with Real Truck, man, they just saw what I was doing in the community, man, just really trying to help these young student-athletes, you know, We're trying to help them in their path through college and onto their careers. We're trying to give them a boost, whether it's financially, through mentorship, or whatever way we can. They had synergy with our mission and what we're trying to accomplish through our foundation. With what they're offering the foundation and all the proceeds of the truck that they're auctioning off will be going to the Calvin Johnson Jr.

50:29Foundation, obviously, to boost those student-athletes and families, both in Atlanta and Detroit. So it's pretty awesome what they're doing. They've done a bunch of these collaborations. So kudos to them for putting their hands and having the impact in the communities that they're working in. But it's dope to have this close to home here in Rochester Hills, Michigan. So I'm going to take my Raptor over there and get it all fitted up. I've seen all the accessories they got going on.

50:55Pat McAfee:I can't wait to hear that thing. And obviously, real trucks got it cooking. And you can see the brand new custom Ford F-150. It'll be showcased at Real Truck, the store in Rochester Hills, Michigan. And then in 2027, the vehicle will be auctioned off with 100 % of the proceeds going to Calvin Johnson Jr. Foundation. That's a beautiful thing. I like whenever the community companies and great people come together to make magic happen. Shout out to you, Calvin. Let's talk about magic. This Detroit Lions team, brother. Hey, listen, I know that you could probably still play. And maybe you get that truck all suited and booting.

51:26Pat McAfee:You start feeling like you're 28 again. but this feels like a team you would want to play for this Detroit Lions team what is your take on this particular squad yeah man no shade to any of my coaches I played for Rod Marinelli Jim Swartz uh Jim Caldwell but uh Dan man that player coach man it's nothing like having a player coach I was fortunate to have a player coach and Sean Jefferson uh throughout half of my career in Detroit and I understand you know the buy-in that you get and that's what those guys got up there They got buy-in because half of that staff, not most of that staff, are former player coaches.

51:58But just the energy and the environment to compete and to thrive and to become the best version of yourself, not just player but yourself, that's what Dan is creating there, man. It's a great culture. Going to win a Super Bowl? What do you think? Are they going to win a Super Bowl?

52:14Pat McAfee:What did you say? You think they can? Because let me tell you, Foxy over here, right? Yeah, yeah. Foxy died hard. Foxy loves you. Foxy has been praying to the football gods for another Calvin Johnson since you were debuted as a Lion and forever as a Lion, right, Foxy? 1 ,000%. Calvin, thank you for everything you did in Detroit, brother. Yeah, but are we at the point this year? You know, are we at the point this year where you can go on a run or do you think you're setting up for, like, next year? For instance, both new coordinators. Now, I don't know if Calvin Shepard's going to be there next year.

52:41Pat McAfee:He's just defense coordinator. His name is starting to get floated in a couple different jobs because of how awesome he is. You talk about former player. We are teammates with him. He's beloved.

52:49AQ Shipley:Might be LSU's head coach. Exactly.

52:51Pat McAfee:That is what we're saying. Like back then. Yeah. It might be. Yeah, but I'm saying, though, like with the brand-new coordinators, with everything, do you think this team has the same juice as last year where we thought they were going to go win the Super Bowl? You think same thing this year if we just missed the injury bug as much as we had last year? I mean, we know we had the juice. There's like, you know, last game, you know, we had a little bit of a struggle. But we saw there's a little stretch there over the last month where they got hot on offense, and they were really moving the ball up and down the field, both running the ball and passing the ball.

53:21So if we cannot continue to do that, you know, if we get stuck in one facet, then, yeah, we're not going to, you know, our days are numbered, put it like that. Yeah, D-Bot has a question for you.

53:33AQ Shipley:Yeah, Calvin, I know you're rooting for your Lions, but what's it like still watching your old quarterback, Matt Stafford, still spinning it, still playing at a high level, MVP level? What have you seen from him, I guess, differently, like his evolution from the time that you played with him? Man, what up, bro? Good to see you. Man, it just looks so easy. It looks so easy for him right now. He looks, you know, stressless. You know, that's inside of Matthew that, you know, I got to see latter part of my career. And he's just taking it to a whole other level. He's gaining, you know, making different throws, not all fastballs.

54:08And he's just seeing the field really good. I wish he could – I wish he would have – he's still not running the ball like I want him to as a quarterback. But that's never been Matt's game either.

54:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, but he used to take some massive hits. Oh, yeah. I mean, the shots he'd take, I mean, he's a tough dude still doing it. Everybody remembers his mic'd up where it feels like his shoulder's out of place. Ah! And he didn't score. I got to go do another play. Ah! Ah! And then somebody comes over to him. Ah! You know? And then he's still in the middle. The Cleveland game out there. Yeah, exactly. It is like, what a dog, especially for how long he's been able to do it. All right. Last question here for you. We talked topical NFL stuff. Go ahead, Con Man.

54:42Darius Butler:Yeah, Calvin. Sauce Gardner got traded yesterday from the Jets to the Colts. What type of corner for you gave you the most trouble, and what type of corner is Sauce Gardner, and how much better do you think the Colts' defense will be because of him? Definitely an improvement to that Colts' defense. For me, the corners that gave me the most problem were the ones that didn't necessarily press. I like it when you're aggressive and press, but the ones that more so play that catch technique where they were like three yards off, they didn't really go at you, but you more so come into them, and then they kind of latch on.

55:13And then with that, you know, if you're a long, a tall, long arm corner, those are the ones that gave me the most trouble because, I mean, not in today's game because in today's game you can't touch the receiver. But back in the day or like 10 years ago when I was playing, yeah, they would latch on that first five, 10 yards and it never get called.

55:30Pat McAfee:You know, yeah, they would always call it really properly at the first five yards and end it there. And I do love hearing older players, especially ones that are like the greatest of all time going, would have been nice maybe. So I'm taller than everybody. I'm faster than everybody. I can jump higher than everybody. And they're not allowed to slow me down at all. That is the rules precisely. Sweet. Boom. We are doing this one. You did that back in the day as well, though. So you need to know that we all understand your greatness. And any time a good wide receiver comes out, they always pop the clip out and go, I don't know if they're ever going to get the Calvin Johnson punt bracket coverage, though.

56:04Pat McAfee:And that's like kind of a staple now. You changed the game, brother. We appreciate the hell out of you. Appreciate you, bro. You changing the game right now, man. I love the show. Y 'all keep it up. All right, we need you to come back whenever we have more time. We love chatting with you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Calvin Johnson. 100. Yeah, Calvin. Real truck, Rochester Hills, Michigan. That guy from Wells, I believe in Africa. Yeah. I believe he was building to he has a greenery company. Primitive. Obviously, Hall of Fame, football career. Then now a truck partnership. It's like this guy, one of the most well-rounded business people of all time.

56:41I mean, unbelievable. And then what he did on the field was unstoppable.

56:43AQ Shipley:Great family as well. Come from a great family. Georgia Tech. First half, using them. Yeah. Can you imagine if he went to Oklahoma and not Georgia Tech? He'd be in Oklahoma, too. Thank God he wasn't there. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice about changing your life. We'll see you on the other side.

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57:51Pat McAfee:Football! This is the greatest sport on earth, and we're lucky to cover it every single day. It's not just me here. The toxic table's here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, Good D, Bad D, and also the NFL matchup show that you can see on ESPN, And then, depending upon what carrier you have, let's make sure we figure that out.

58:12AQ Shipley:Mm-hmm. Please.

58:17Please. We need it.

58:20Pat McAfee:Bad. And I like to clarify. What I said yesterday has obviously made its rounds where me saying, hey, stop saying. Go to the website. Yeah. I need you to stop doing that to me. The way I said it made it sound like I was taking shots at the people that were saying it or tweeting it. Sure. Because they agreed to do it. This is mostly from whoever said, hey, you know what? all our liked people we need to throw them right in the middle of this fire too you know have them go tell people go that is mostly my so if you like to correct it and run it back that is who i am it's not necessarily like hey herb street um i'm saying hey because herb street was probably informed by somebody like hey would you like that person needs to not do that okay herby's got enough on his plate already we don't need to be putting because it's at the end of the day you're going to get 20 people that go to that link.

59:11Pat McAfee:Okay. We know this because of affiliate business, you know, the beginning of the internet business days is links. Okay. Send people to your links. So companies know how many people are using your thing. So do you have an active audience? So then we've done the whole send a website thing. We've done the whole, what happens to people, very lazy. Okay. Even on an app, people are lazy. They don't even want to do it. And as soon as they see you doing that, their immediate reaction is no, you figure it out. Smart guy. And also shill corporate shit you oh you want me to fix the problem okay yeah i'm the one so i just think it's all bad i think for the people that i am a big fan of but on that note none of us are a fan of the situation everybody's trying to get this thing over with we all do i think except for potentially the people that are currently actually sitting at a table that aren't reading the petitions that are coming from a website no those people are not doing that that is not how that's going so we need them to put their swords down for the good of ball yeah right now right now.

1:00:08Yeah. Kind of needed it last Friday, but need it right now.

1:00:11Pat McAfee:Ink to paper. Yeah. We need it. Actually, you know what? Get the deal done. Celebrate for a night. Okay? Don't tell us until tomorrow. Sure. But just we need it Saturday. We need this by Saturday morning. Okay? Need this by Saturday morning.

1:00:27AQ Shipley:Maybe pull a Jerry Jones like Friday night. You're going to be happy tomorrow morning.

1:00:33Pat McAfee:Oh, hey, it's Christmas Eve, isn't it? Yeah. A little smile on your face. Why don't you leave some cookies out for Santa Claus, Jerry Jones? Yeah, maybe there is a little bit. That's what we're going to live in. We're going to live in that world where that's going to happen. Congrats to the people that are negotiating this deal that are definitely reading the website telling them that they need to get a deal done to kind of drive them to get the negotiation to the right place. Congrats to them getting that deal done for all of us. Thank you. You guys are heroes. Thank you. A lot of negative things said about all of you guys, but you guys are now heroes for getting back in the middle of football season.

1:01:07Pat McAfee:Needed. 12-year NFL veteran, Super Bowl champion, that's A.Q. Shipley. We appreciate the hell out of you. And joining us live from Manatic in Ohio is a man who has a statement to make about YouTube TV and ESPN's current disagreement. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J., the floor is for you. Give him hell, Hawk. A.J., the website. Get to the website, A.J. Yeah, I do appreciate you letting me start off with that. I actually went to the website four or five times and signed up and, you know, I guess typed up my complaints. I don't know why you went out of frame. You must be going and checking the website as well to see the massive amount of traffic.

1:01:35Pat McAfee:No, computers right here. I was letting you kind of have the floor. What I was saying is the floor is yours, basically, is what I was saying there for you to do that. But on that note, thank you for going to that website because it does mean that you would like to be able to watch ball again. I'm the same way. I didn't go to the website because I thought to myself, is this a waste of time? Maybe. Maybe it is. But maybe it is. What is it, the website? Has anyone truly gone there and checked out what you do? Yeah, so there's a couple different options there. You want to send a tweet? You want to send a tweet?

1:02:03Pat McAfee:We got you right here. You want to do this? You want to send an email? You can do this right here. You want to watch? You can do this right here. It's got options. It's more options. You actually get a link to get to more links. And it's like people love that, especially in 2025. Now, maybe in, I don't know when the internet started. People loved being able to just kind of, oh, yeah, this is fun. When Al Gore started it? I do believe he is credited with birthing the internet. I thought so. What a wild turn the internet has taken now that it kind of... Al Gore's? I believe Al Gore's... That was Beyonce.

1:02:35I thought he called... Or Beyonce. One of the two, yeah. Beyonce started the year?

1:02:39AQ Shipley:Maybe together. It was Beyonce's internet. Hmm. Well, I think that is a section of the internet. Like, Beyonce certainly has a portion of the internet. Yeah, the Beehive.

1:02:48Pat McAfee:Yes, exactly. It is. Yeah, and you buzz in and you buzz out. There's also NBA Twitter, which we know. Yep. Now, it did have a rebrand, NBA Twitter. Always been the best part of Twitter, I would say.

1:03:02AQ Shipley:Black Twitter's still there. Whoa.

1:03:11I know what you're saying. Not me? No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

1:03:14Pat McAfee:Boy, you get dropped into there, though, as a what? It is a great place to be or a worse place to be of all time, depending upon how it's going.

1:03:23AQ Shipley:You just never want to be the main character.

1:03:24Pat McAfee:Never.

1:03:25AQ Shipley:Ever.

1:03:26Pat McAfee:But if you get into the – what portion of Twitter are you referring to now? It's black Twitter. Okay, so if you happen to get into that particular portion of Twitter, boy, and you are a what, enjoy the ride. And go ahead and just keep updating that thing because you're about to hear shit that you have never heard before. AJ, it is great to have you back. We missed you. Sauce Gardner is now a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Quentin Williams is now a member of the Dallas Cowboys. There was actually some massive moves made yesterday. What is your takeaway from the trade deadline as you kind of gather it all in?

1:03:57Definitely more superstars moving around than I thought. It felt like it happened, obviously. I mean, Sauce going to India, I instantly thought of you and just thought how – I've seen the clip of everything. During the prerecord, I've seen it all. It's pretty awesome, and it's bizarre that it actually happened, honestly. The timing of it, everything about it is wild, and Sauce is awesome. Why not if you're the coach? I think it's – didn't Shreg say he feels like it's a win-win in that whole situation, even though people can say whatever, whoever won the trade right now?

1:04:24Pat McAfee:Schrags has to say that because he has friends on both sides. Remember, these insiders have to play fence all the time. It has to be some sort of positive, except for with the Lions. I don't know if Schrags has any ties to the Lions. Because remember, before the season, he was like, upside, friend of mine. Even though the team looks bad and is going to inevitably not play bad. Down, I don't think, Detroit Lions. That was one of his misses. He was taking massive takes, and he literally laid out, This is a massive take, a massive say. But I think Detroit Lions are going to have a down year. And I'm like, wow, Schrags never really does.

1:04:57Pat McAfee:Schrags is always at least something positive from everywhere. That's life of an incident. That was my takeaway. Schrags knows no one at the Lions. Hey, this is a team I can bury and not make anyone mad. See, that's journalism. We're trying to get to the bottom of these takes, AJ. We've missed you, buddy. I don't know if you know this, but last night, huge night in the college football world. the actual rankings in the actual bracket that is coming from the actual group of people that are going to be deciding who the college football playoff inevitably is at the end of the year whenever they start at 12 and count down to one rolled out their first official rankings of the year we saw them put their hats on the hat tree and now we see what they came up with in that room let's go to hammer dad dad ap tone tone what did the college football playoff committee tell us with their first projected 12-team bracket?

1:05:45Darius Butler:Yeah, I don't think there was a ton of surprises here. There was two things that I took away from looking at this, and the first one being Oregon at 9. When I projected it, I thought they would be higher, but the committee disagreed with me. They are the lowest-ranked one-loss team from the Big Ten or SEC. They are behind Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Texas Tech, who's in the Big 12 as far as one-loss team goes. teams go so they are like Oregon needs to be careful Oregon still has Iowa this weekend at Kinnick which is huge USC and Washington like all those teams are ranked all those teams are good like if Oregon messes around and loses any of those games I like I they're definitely going to drop them behind Texas or Oklahoma teams like that so like Oregon I wouldn't be happy if I were them when this came out because one more loss and they could definitely be out of the playoff as a two-loss team, which would suck for them.

1:06:43Darius Butler:And then the other thing I was looking at, Notre Dame's at 10 right now as a two-loss team. But behind them, the two teams right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, Texas has Georgia and A &M left. Like if they beat Georgia and A &M, guess what? Texas is going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So Notre Dame drops to 11. Oklahoma has Bama and Mizzou left. And that Bama is at Bama. Like if Oklahoma would somehow beat Bama on the road, I think they'd jump Notre Dame too. So while Notre Dame's in there right now, I don't know if they're safe. Obviously, if they lose, they're out. But Oregon as well, as a one-loss Oregon, if you drop to two losses, I think you might go behind Texas and Oklahoma in that situation too.

1:07:23Darius Butler:So those two teams is what I kind of took away from last night's rankings.

1:07:27Pat McAfee:Okay, let's check out what Tone's predicted CFP committee bracket looked like versus what the CFP committee bracket was. What did you get wrong? You got Oregon ranked differently but basically have all the same teams. You basically are seeing the field how the CFP committee is seeing the field. Do you feel that way?

1:07:45Darius Butler:Yeah, as you said earlier, I saw all those old whites walk in there and put their helmets up on that hat rack. They went in there to do their business. I had Oregon higher. I thought they would be higher. Maybe five was a little too high, but I didn't think they would be behind Texas Tech. I thought for sure they'd be ahead of Texas Tech just because normally there's no respect for the Big 12. I'm not saying there shouldn't be. I'm just saying in the committee's eyes. But yeah, all the teams were correct. and just kind of Oregon was really the only one that was out of place.

1:08:11Pat McAfee:Okay, what out of Baby Tone? That's why you're best in the game. Thank you. I see you're growing back your beard. I thought maybe you were just sticking with mustache for a while or is maybe this the look?

1:08:20Darius Butler:No, just the mustache was a horrendous look. That was a miscalculation of epic proportions on my part. I don't mind the mustache with like it's starting to come in. This is a week's worth of growth. Maybe like another week with the mustache. We're starting to find it a bit here.

1:08:42Pat McAfee:Holiday season, Tom. Holiday season. Congrats to you. Thank you. Steelers get a huge win over the Colts. Tone batting 1 ,000 in college football. And he's starting to find it with his face. Joining us now is a guy who's starting to find it in the booth, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Listen, I was listening for a long time. This guy talked about a game in which his brother dominated. And my team was the best team in the league and was losing pretty bad. And I'd say he did a great job doing it. Ladies and gentlemen, future first ballot Hall of Famer, a member of the Bull Ring of Honor, ladies and gentlemen, J.J.

1:09:13Pat McAfee:Watt. Yay! J.J., owner of Burnley as well, and Espanol. The soccer team's absolutely crushing it. How come the Texans aren't calling it the Bull Ring of Honor? How come? I saw there's an announcement there's another member going in, a fourth member going in, I believe, this weekend. It just said Ring of Honor. I thought for sure, this must have been a Mandela effect. I thought it was called the Bull Ring of Honor.

1:09:35JJ Watt:It's not?

1:09:36Pat McAfee:No, it's just a ring of honor. Come on. That's a miss.

1:09:39JJ Watt:Yeah. I mean, you have certainly taken that bull by the horns and led it around the track. So it's got a second nickname for sure. No, I thought that was the official title.

1:09:51Pat McAfee:I thought that's what it was. And then I saw the logo and the photo, and it's like, oh, it's not that.

1:09:56JJ Watt:We did welcome Miss Janice McNair. Sweet, sweet soul. One of the best women ever. So she is now up there, and rightfully so. She's the best.

1:10:04Pat McAfee:So there's four of you now in the Bull Ring of Honor. Are you guys going to play Euchre? Is the crew going to get together and maybe play little cards against each other?

1:10:13JJ Watt:I don't know. I don't know. I'm there this weekend. I'm very excited. I got a Houston game this weekend. So I'm really, really looking forward to that and really, really hoping we can get some offensive production going. That would be a plus.

1:10:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, that would be a plus for an offense to maybe not turn the ball over and do what they've been doing all season, you know especially in a game where maybe it's a homecoming for one particular squad and let's go back to the game that you called this past weekend as opposed to the one that you're going to talk about this upcoming weekend which we'll certainly dive into cj strow that's a big hit and obviously did not look good at all but we'll dive into that later let's talk about colt steelers you're obviously calling it your brother has huge play after huge play the defense very dominant obviously special teams turnover as well this colt's offense didn't look the same as it always has looked Jonathan Taylor was never really able to get going.

1:11:01Pat McAfee:It's because the Steelers' defense was so damn stingy. Your takeaway from the game is this is the Steelers' team that everybody kind of thought they could be coming into the season, and has the defense kind of flipped the switch on, or is it just against the Colts when the 2005 team's in the building and that's the only time they're going to be good all season? What are your thoughts as you watch the game from inside?

1:11:21JJ Watt:I got a lot of thoughts. First of all, I'm going to go ahead and say that my prediction from last week of they just couldn't win in those ugly throwback uniforms, maybe that was true they put the regulars back on and they play good again um the 2005 team being in attendance certainly you don't want to embarrass yourselves in front of that group you got dick lebeau and all just the legends there um so the defense wanted to come out and play good i'm sure but it was uh it was just all week long they had talked about simplifying their defense you know in our meetings and everything they said they wanted to simplify it and just play fast and i I do think that the Colts may have abandoned the run a little bit early, partially because the Steelers were playing the run very well.

1:12:04JJ Watt:But the Colts offense we've seen all year is efficient. It is on schedule. They stay ahead of the sticks. They get tons of yardage on first down, creating short seconds, short third downs. And they just weren't really in that. The first drive of the game, they go out there and score a touchdown. But then the game got a little weird. They had that muffed punt. They had, obviously, the interceptions, the forced fumble by TJ. That was really kind of in the stadium, the turning point. You could feel the momentum change. But, I mean, six takeaways in the game is a ton. That Steelers defense really did have a good day.

1:12:39JJ Watt:And people are always looking for a reason to doubt the Colts. You know this. You're a part of it. We were talking to Zaire Franklin about it. And he was like, yeah, they always move the goalposts. It was, you know, we hadn't beaten anybody. Then it was we hadn't beaten anybody outside. then it wasn't on grass and so this is kind of one of those first ones where was it because it was outside on grass who knows but looking for them to get

1:13:00Pat McAfee:back on track in berlin it wasn't because of the grass okay the boys are just fine going into a mutter if they have to okay they just had an off game and the ball was going obviously a different direction than it had all season we like that that happened as a fan yeah let's get it out of the way okay let's get it out of the way we're still seven and two still leading everything but six turnovers you assume and you lose by seven hey almost had it at the end appreciate you shouting out the uh old onside

1:13:24JJ Watt:kick i appreciate the love last onside kick didn't realize that it's been that long since an onside kick i mean it that speaks to how on we got to fix this onside kick thing man we got it there's

1:13:34Pat McAfee:got to be at least some sort of chance here so since he just got one against the bears but i think that was even uh that was because it was a shorter kick and the bears end up hitting it with the flip but i think there's some protections on the guy but yeah you guys showing this one was really cool really really uh sweet because i completely forget about that one to be honest Yeah, just bend it over a guy's back. Don't worry about it. Bend it like Beckham. I don't even, to be honest, when you showed it, I had not thought of that particular kick ever, really, since retirement. Because there's so many more.

1:14:01Pat McAfee:You know, the one against Houston.

1:14:02JJ Watt:I thought for sure it was going to be ours. I thought for sure it was ours.

1:14:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, we had a good time. Yeah, okay. So we need to stop showing us. I mean, that's a nasty ball. I mean, that is an absolutely not.

1:14:12JJ Watt:You can't tell me that you thought that was getting recovered. You cannot tell me that you thought that was getting recovered.

1:14:17Pat McAfee:No, but it did dance exactly how I wanted it to. I mean, it did exactly what I wanted it to do. I mean, I bent that son of a bitch. You gave it a chance. You gave your cover team a chance to get it. And that thing was dancing. That thing's dancing like a top. That guy's scared to death. This thing's coming at me sideways. You know, I don't know what to do. And he tries to fall because he thinks it's going to take a quick thing because it's oblong. Yeah, right, brother? Ben it like Beckham who just got knighted, I think, yesterday. Around it. Boom. Let me hit a go-row. Hey, brother, run a go-row.

1:14:45Pat McAfee:I'm going to send this thing to you on the other side. Yeah, I need to like that one more. Completely out of memory. Had no idea that that even happened until you guys showed it. So you're kind of breaking news to me about that. I'm like, man, I fucking forgot about it.

1:14:56AQ Shipley:That is a very nerve-wracking position to be in. As that hands guy who's responsible to fucking try to read the bounce, that is very, very nerve-wracking.

1:15:05Pat McAfee:See, a lot of mine were surprised, though. And the onside kick now has kind of gone away from that completely. It's just kind of, to your point, Jage, it has kind of just become over. Yeah, this one.

1:15:14JJ Watt:Ah, come on. Yeah, this one was cool. Yeah, this one was cool, Jage. You don't need to go to the well this many times.

1:15:20Pat McAfee:Listen, I didn't know Foxy was going to be doing this. I didn't know we had all of them back there, but I do appreciate the fact that I'm going down glory days.

1:15:30Pat McAfee:We guys even on the field, that's what people are wondering. And the reason why it was wide open is because we had hit a surprise onside kick to the right earlier in the year, and then we hit one to the left earlier in the year. So Houston, Texas was like, well, if we go on the right and the left, this guy can't do shit. They completely forgot about the middle of the field. Now, I'm not saying that's a bad idea because no kicker really thinks that they're safe when they do that kick. So, you know, as I'm kicking that, I think, oh, I'm going to get my spine fractured here, you know, because I'm going to go down on this and this is going to become a boom, boom, boom.

1:16:04Pat McAfee:So as I'm doing that, I'm literally laying. You see me like if you saw my face, it's like a ready for full. Oh, no, I might not be able to walk out of here. I mean, who knows? Nobody touches me. I mean, they weren't even close. I mean, what a perfect situation. It was the greatest. I got up. I'm like, oh, no contact. This is the greatest of all. On that note, thank you for the love. Tell the CBS people that I very much appreciate them showing me do something good as opposed to something bad, which is normally the case in this entire situation. I would like to let you guys know you called a good game, too.

1:16:33Pat McAfee:I thought you called a very, very good game. All right, let's talk about some other shit going on around the league. Go ahead, AJ. JJ, I know it's most important on top of your list what you want to talk about. Is it true that you may clone yourself and possibly your brothers with this whole situation with Tom Brady cloning his dog, I believe?

1:16:50AQ Shipley:Come on. That's a great question, AJ. Come on. It took me a second to see where we were going with that.

1:16:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, I thought we were going to do football as soon, but hey, Tom Brady's the greatest football player of all time. Might be bad.

1:17:02JJ Watt:Certainly topical. There's a lot of dog talk in the analyst world. I'm just going to keep my dogs on my Instagram story, and that's going to be about the end of it.

1:17:14Pat McAfee:Hold on, no. Did we know that I could clone Valerie, my dog, who's a Pitbull Sharpay dog who I absolutely love? Now, I don't know if they're just going to be able to pick up her mentality and mindset from being a street dog and sheltered dog and everything like that. I don't know if you're going to be able to clone that. But if Valerie can just be two years old again, just sleeping at the floor of the bed, it's like, hold on, I got the same dog. Oh, she's got a different attitude now. It's like, okay, yeah. I mean, Valerie's going through a different stage. and then I just got Valerie for the next 50 years?

1:17:43Pat McAfee:Is that what's happening? That's what Tom Brady told me.

1:17:45JJ Watt:Is Chuck the big one? Is Chuck the hefty fella? They won't let you clone him. You could clone him as skinny. Can we clone him as skinny? I like that. It's so much on him. I mean, give him a break, okay? The ottoman. Can we clone the ottoman and just shrink it? Okay. The ottoman is Chuck. Give him stronger legs.

1:18:05Pat McAfee:And he has an incredible stature, I will tell you. Yeah. He stands there strong and fat, but he's very tough to move and he's stubborn. Actually, if I could clone Chuck and get a better mindset, which is possible, I guess, maybe I'd do that.

1:18:19JJ Watt:Another shot from the beginning.

1:18:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, and maybe we did get him on Doggy Zempick from day one because we know what's in his blood.

1:18:25JJ Watt:Yeah, exactly.

1:18:26Pat McAfee:We know he can become super fatso.

1:18:28JJ Watt:When you're calling him, it's starting back at the start, right? It's just like a baby. Chuck, it's all over again. Yeah, here's Chuck. I had the same question.

1:18:36AQ Shipley:I don't know if I was doing this. My God, man.

1:18:38JJ Watt:That sounds fair. And I'm the only one that didn't have a leash on him, because he's too fat for the leash that he gives. So he ran, though. Look at him. His little legs. Damn, you're one. If it was skiing, he would have won. Yeah. Dude. That is not. Chuck's awesome. We're not thinking about calling Chuck anyways.

1:18:59Pat McAfee:Chuck's got a long life ahead. Valerie, though, certainly on her final days here.

1:19:04JJ Watt:AJ, I feel like you've looked into this before. I feel like you've looked into this before. To clone animals or to clone humans? What are you talking about? All of it. I think you've looked into all of it. No, I saw the movie Multiplicity. It doesn't always work out. There's always going to be some defects when you do that. Good call. What about the dog, though? I don't think that's a smart thing. What about the dog? If you could bring back Carl, my old German Shepherd, I would do it. If he had Carl's mindset, that's what I need, that mindset.

1:19:28Pat McAfee:I don't think they can clone the mindset, JJ. I don't think they can do that. I don't know. Well, that's up to you.

1:19:33JJ Watt:Parenting, nature versus nurture. Maybe it's you that put the mindset in him. I don't want to give me that much credit for Valerie, for sure. I don't know about Carl. Maybe my wife kind of said. No, Carl was Carl. Yeah, he was.

1:19:45Pat McAfee:Hey, rest in peace to Carl. Carl was a hell of a dog. Tom Brady doing this, though, does add to the thing about, like, man, these super-duper-duper rich people just do sweet stuff all the time. Found out he can clone his dog. Yeah, give me her. And you asked, is it a baby dog?

1:19:59AQ Shipley:Well, yeah, I think JJ asked it as well. I don't know if it's a dumb question today. When you clone it, is it just you pick the age? Thank you for asking, because I'm with you, dude. Is it like a surrogate situation? Yeah, does it come back as, you know, start from scratch? Or are we starting from, like, what are we doing? Start from scratch. I mean, I just want to be able to record. I don't think it disappears. I think it's fucking weird. And I thought I was in the majority. But apparently I'm not after the show. I'm not a big pet guy, so maybe that's what it is. But it was more people on the, oh, maybe.

1:20:28AQ Shipley:I'm with you. No, but what was the consensus, though? It was the same thing. It was, hey, if I can clone Murph, and he is the exact same dog. as he is right now, I'll take him. If I get a knockoff version and he's not acting like him, I'll kick that dog in the stomach as hard as I can because that's not the dog I want. I want my dog. Don't kick your dog in the stomach. Team humor. That's what I'm saying. This thing's a monster. He's created by science. He's not a dog. He's not my dog.

1:20:57Pat McAfee:Listen, Tom Brady, enjoy your dog, dude. I don't think any of us are going to clone our dog's butt. 50K, dude.

1:21:04JJ Watt:you got you just following it the same name like you just go like definitely just pretend

1:21:09Pat McAfee:definitely it's like the uh ugga situation this is uh valerie two this is valerie three you know just like the um the uh buffalo the um ralph ralph ralph ralph they got that figured out did you have you seen the newest one he's got spunk a lot of spunk yeah have you heard the why the new ralphie was introduced, Jage?

1:21:32JJ Watt:No, but I do remember our Buffalo Bison talk. We did have that.

1:21:36Pat McAfee:Okay, so what happened was Ralphie 5, I think is which one it was, middle of career prime. Okay, they thought they had at least three, four more years of Ralphie kind of giving it a go out there. And Ralphie just said, nope, I'm not doing it anymore. They brought me.

1:21:51JJ Watt:Andrew Luck.

1:21:55He's brought some hard times right there for the Colts. Why'd you do that, J.H.? I'm talking about Ralphie Six coming in and saving the day.

1:22:01Pat McAfee:That's what Danny Dimes is. Maybe Danny Dimes is Ralphie Six. Danny Dimes is Ralphie Six. That is 100 % true. I don't know.

1:22:09Darius Butler:Things aren't going very well out of Colorado. No, but Ralphie's killing it.

1:22:12Pat McAfee:Have you seen this bison run? It runs.

1:22:15Darius Butler:It does. It does. You're exactly right. But Colorado and Wisconsin might be a pick-em right now. Okay, so let's talk about Wisconsin. You own Burnley and Espanol.

1:22:24Pat McAfee:Why don't you own the Wisconsin football team? You know, I see Willie Compton giving speeches and donating his time and everything over there in Nebraska. You're both red. You're both in the middle of America. You're potentially competing for the same type of players. It feels like you've got to step up and maybe sell one of those soccer teams so you can invest directly into Luke Fickle's pockets in that team. Have you thought about that?

1:22:45JJ Watt:We need to play better. Yes, we do. Significantly. Why don't you go give a speech? I did. Didn't work. Oh, no. So I'm so sorry. Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's definitely move along. D-Bud has a question for you.

1:23:02AQ Shipley:I know it's a lot of travel right now. You sound a little backed up. I mean, I know you kind of take you as a homeopathic guy, not the big farm guy. So get your sleep, get your rest, hydrate. But back to the end.

1:23:15Pat McAfee:Also, there's some drugs you can take.

1:23:16AQ Shipley:No, no, no. He can take it. Let me hear both sides.

1:23:20JJ Watt:D-Bud, what should I do? And Pat, what should I do?

1:23:22AQ Shipley:Sleep, hydrate, and eat right. you already exercise so that's all you need. I'm sure AJ agrees.

1:23:27Pat McAfee:And for me you just call somebody that's in the super duper world and say hey these are my feelings right now and they'll say you got it. We're sending two IVs to you with the nurse in about 14 minutes and then you'll say we're going to give you this and then you're going to have that thing out of you in about 72 hours. I would never do that because I don't like getting pricked but I do believe that is what you super duper owners of soccer teams can do in this entire thing. We're pulling for you and you only got to beat it one time remember throughout the season and then you're on to the other side.

1:23:52Pat McAfee:Go ahead D-Bud.

1:23:53AQ Shipley:But back to the NFL. Big news yesterday with all the trades. You know, on the other side of it, Cowboys, Jets, Colts, Seahawks, who actually came out to be my winner, in my opinion, with the trade deadline. Who's your winner as we sit here about 24 hours later?

1:24:07JJ Watt:I'm with you. I mean, the Seahawks are a wagon, dude. Like, I think the West Coast kind of loses it. I think there's true football fans and deep football fans obviously know it, but they're putting something together out there. And then you go ahead and you add your heed to it. Sam Darnold's playing unbelievable football. That whole West Coast right now with the Rams and everybody, there is some very good ball going on out there. I mean, the Colts make a massive swing, but also pay a massive price for it. So you come in, and we were talking about it during the game. Were they going to look at a Trey Hendrickson edge rusher type?

1:24:40JJ Watt:Are they going to look on the back end? You get sauce out there, and you get Mooney back. All of a sudden, where are you throwing the ball on that defense? So it's the Colts clearly also putting Danny Dimes in a very nice spot when it comes to negotiations in the offseason if he decides to take that stance because you're basically all in at the moment and saying that this is going to be your guy.

1:25:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, and we have to figure out where that money's coming from. Because I think Jonathan Taylor, if we know anything about how his business goes, he's going to want to be paid as well. So we've got to pay Danny Dimes. We've got to pay Jonathan Taylor. We've paid a lot of people on this team. And they're going all in, and they showcased it even more yesterday. And we're all incredibly pumped about it. Let's talk about trade deadline a little bit for you. Go ahead, Con, man.

1:25:25Darius Butler:Yeah, Jage, something just to consider with Brady as well. You ever want to win a divorce, bring back your kid's dog growing up. That might help. When you're looking at the trade deadline She's not a bad play Oh you want to go to your mom's house Well guess who's here The dog that you grew up with that was dead It's back But JJ with the trade deadline Have you ever kind of Gone through that process where your agent was Letting you know like hey there's a chance You might get dealt here today Or were you always just kind of Hey that doesn't even matter I don't even think about that Up until the day unless your agent Reaches out to you

1:26:01JJ Watt:um the only time it ever happened was my last year in houston where it was at least like somewhat where i was like ah should i be listening here should i be paying attention because we were obviously going through some stuff there and there was some organizational stuff there was there was just a whole lot going on and i didn't even know at that point um so i it's it's really interesting because you're you're aging everybody can tell you like no don't worry you're not going anywhere nothing's going on but you still see all the stuff on the internet and you also realize that 99 of it is all bullshit um but oh i wouldn't i won't lie and say you don't think about it and you start to look and you're like all right so if this if they did do that where how is this going to work where am i going to go like it's it's a really interesting thing between that and then free agency and it's i hadn't been through that at any point in my career and it's a it it's wild to put yourself in situations and know like i could be living in a completely different place with a completely different life.

1:26:59Pat McAfee:And then he moved to Arizona, you know, and become a mega golfer. You see, he was out there on the golf. He's got those hockey stick golf clubs. Became a valuable member of the community over there. Him and AQ used to actually sweep streets at night. That's right, pick up garbage. Pick up garbage and then make sure that...

1:27:15JJ Watt:Congrats on the... I haven't talked to you since. Congrats on the skeleton coming back. That's fantastic. Big day.

1:27:21Darius Butler:That was a big day. That was a big day in the Chipley household.

1:27:23Pat McAfee:Thanks for calling attention to that, Jage. I think you mentioning it might have been the thing that made those frat boys say, oh, JJ Wall wants us. Now, that only happened because the Houston Texans said, JJ, get the hell out of our building, please. And that was whenever nuke was happening. That's a tough realization for some people. We talked about Trent Richardson whenever he came out and said, whenever he was traded away from Cleveland to Indianapolis, it was the moment where he was like, oh, this is business. He thought it was kind of like a shattering moment to hear that a team doesn't want you anymore.

1:27:52Pat McAfee:I think players experience that at the end of their careers as well. Like sometimes guys who've been the greatest for a long time are finally told by a team for the first time, like, hey, we don't want you. And there's like a jaded feel. You know, it doesn't feel like any of the guys nowadays feel like that. Like Sauce came out and was like, hey, it's just business. You got to do what you got to do. I wonder if that's because the NIL era where these guys have been around money for so long. It's like, hey, business is everything almost. You know what I mean, Jage?

1:28:15JJ Watt:yeah i think the business side of things has certainly become much more understood by everybody involved i also think we've talked about it before like the the old school mentality of like this is my team this is like i live and die and bleed for this team it's a lot different with even fans like with fantasy football and with the ability to watch all the games you see people from a certain city who in the past it's i only support this team i don't support anybody else now we're in an era where you're supporting all different people sometimes it's just players and you're because they're on your fantasy team or just because you like them or maybe they got traded away so it's the whole jersey swap thing it's a little bit of everything like it's it's just not quite as like tribal as it used to be aaron aaron rogers jersey hawk molly yeah big time hawk molly Everybody's going up right now.

1:29:07JJ Watt:Who got it? Did somebody get it?

1:29:09Pat McAfee:I'm not sure. I am not sure. Somebody did, though. And the thing that I like is obviously the Colts' number one team in the NFL still, and they're humble enough to understand, you know, what a legend's out there.

1:29:19JJ Watt:Did I see, is Sauce getting number one from Downs?

1:29:23Pat McAfee:Downs is going Downs to business alongside his brother. His podcast, actually, Downs to business podcast, and he and Caleb will both be wearing the number two. You know, Caleb currently at Ohio State, maybe the best football player in college football as a whole. And Josh, superstar for us. Obviously, Danny Dimes and he have done some magical things together. He moves to number two because they're dons to business. And then Sauce.

1:29:47JJ Watt:I didn't even know you could do that in the middle of the season.

1:29:49Pat McAfee:Me neither, especially with like the jersey thing, you know, because anytime guys want to change numbers, they're always like, well, you got to pay back the amount of money that jerseys have already been made. That's always something.

1:29:57AQ Shipley:I'd assume Sauce probably footed that bill for him.

1:30:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'd assume after getting paid. Like, hey, this is kind of how this whole thing goes. downs to business though being their podcast that has just launched and them both wearing a number two and him coming out here saying too slippery too sweet you know to everything it's too neat like that is a yeah i think that is a very good move i like what they're doing and also the culture in the locker room is great you see that immediately from before i'm even stepping foot in there yeah you're cool dude let's keep it moving let's roll it's no worries and everybody coming in lou anarumo did you see his quote jage see no i did not well we reached out to the building

1:30:29JJ Watt:I don't have the stuff. I can't watch the ESPN shows. I don't have it. I have something. I don't know what I have. Tell him where to go, AJ. I didn't go to the website that you told me to go to.

1:30:43AQ Shipley:I never said go to the website, Jake. Don't you put that on me, Jake.

1:30:47JJ Watt:You told me that I had to go to some website. I saw you do a PSA, and I didn't go to it.

1:30:54Pat McAfee:Okay. Once again, not the boys' fault that are doing it. That should have never been an idea. Hey, why don't you get it?

1:31:04JJ Watt:Pursuit said it was your idea. I heard that it was you who said, guys, we should crowdsource this amongst all of our talent. This is how we should do it. I know the social media. Hey, everybody's really mad at us. Can you go tell them?

1:31:17Darius Butler:I mean, other guys. We were so bummed when other guy was forced to do it. But when other guy said it, I did it. I went and did it. Go do this now. That's basically what he said. And when he said that, I was almost like, oh, shit, okay. Utter Guy's talking. I got to go do it. That one got traction. That one had like 2 million views on it.

1:31:35Pat McAfee:We'll be talking to Utter Guy here in about 30 minutes or so. And once again, it's not like, I don't, we don't, like, whoever's idea that was was just coming from a place of just not understanding the reality of everything. It's like, what?

1:31:49JJ Watt:Thought we were going to just rally. We were all going to be like, yeah, let me do it. Where's the petition? Let me sign up. I want to help corporate America. oh that's exactly exactly yes and also hey they like you right well let's change that go ahead

1:32:03Pat McAfee:and what are we what are we even doing hey sorry just know that all these people that people think are like these uh maybe a lot of things been saying about corporate show and stuff like that these people all love sport want sports you know what i mean so it's like that's why i get so like man why are we doing this like herbie's already got enough on his plate right herbie's already got enough people for whatever reason because he's been calling games for 30 years and has the voice that he has in this entire thing yeah let's go tell him also to tell him tell him to go the

1:32:32JJ Watt:thing it's like god you do it your x account is is benefiting fantastically though well i think

1:32:39Pat McAfee:you know many would say that was a benefit for maybe all parties involved there but uh on that note yeah it was an honor to be able to stream that and shout out to x to be like yeah absolutely we are thankful for that and who knows what the future looks like there you know that entire Are we on X right now? Streaming? I don't believe we are streaming live on X. Maybe.

1:32:54JJ Watt:Yeah, we are.

1:32:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, we are streaming live on X. Yes, we have. Pretty cool.

1:32:57JJ Watt:No idea. I don't even know if I can watch this show in my own house right now. I have no idea.

1:33:03Pat McAfee:The thing about X is. Signed a petition, man. Phone, laptop. They don't have the TV app yet. No. You know, and that's kind of the, like YouTube has TV app everywhere. So everybody can pull YouTube up and put it up there. But if X wants to go in the content world, which allegedly they do, right? they really want to go. It's like, I think there's some things they can build up to be able to become a real thing. They're going to have to get there though. But other than that, it was like them being so nimble and welcoming on Saturday in like a 25, 30 minute period. That all came together in like 25, 30 minutes.

1:33:35Pat McAfee:Because I think the YouTube TV, I thought the YouTube TV deal was going to get done before Saturday. I think we all kind of thought it was going to get done.

1:33:40JJ Watt:Yep, I did think that.

1:33:42Pat McAfee:It's like, hey, college football, we're in the middle of college football right now. Ratings up and to the right. Like this is certainly, For all parties here, this is really good news. And then Monday night football comes, we still have it. But on Saturday morning, whenever it's like, no, it's not happening, it's like, there has to be something here, you know? And then kind of make some plays. It reached a lot of people kind of trying to track how do you compare that. It's like you don't. These are two different worlds. You can't compare it to a TV number or a YouTube TV number, what an X number is.

1:34:07Pat McAfee:It's a different place. But it was an attempt to be like, hey, we understand what's going on and we would like to put another free. So I think that's a good thing that ESPN did. and everybody's just kind of attacking them. It's like, it's a negotiation happening. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot up here. But what we're saying is there's fucking ball. Yeah.

1:34:27JJ Watt:Yeah. We need to see ball. There's football. We need it. And I'm not entering my information on another freaking website and I'm not getting a confirmation code sent to my email, clicking it and coming back and putting it in. And then I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I did it once. I have some sort of subscription. I have no clue what it is because I can only watch freaking half the content apparently, or it's replayed content. It's bullshit. Figure it out.

1:34:54Pat McAfee:This is J.J. Watt talking here. This ain't some rock for brains defensive tackle from the NFL. No. No. This is a guy that is your average American, J.J. Watt, saying, I already signed up to watch this. Why do I got to sign up again? And then with the ability for your phone to be able to take a picture scan, QR code, then I got to type in another password, another code. It's like we're all kind of done with it. When that thing pops up, it gets hot. This guy's breaking TVs. Hates it.

1:35:23JJ Watt:And then you do it, and you scan it, and you're like, all right, I'm in. And then they're like, no, you don't have that one. So, too bad. I mean, I'm trying to watch my guys. Like, I played for the Cardinals. I wanted to watch the game on Monday night.

1:35:36Pat McAfee:On that note, Cardinals have the biggest win they've had in a long time. Nobody saw it. AQ, do you have a question for Jade?

1:35:43Darius Butler:I do. Let's talk about Walter Nolan and Calais Campbell, the youngest defensive lineman and the oldest defensive lineman. Calais gets two sacks. Walter Nolan makes his debut a sack, two TFLs, played great. What did you see from him?

1:35:57JJ Watt:I love it, man. I mean, the Cardinals, we talked about this earlier in the year. Like, they lost those crazy, crazy close games in quick succession, and their season would be looking completely different. And it's, I mean, as a guy who still has a bunch of friends on the team and in the building, I'm sitting there like, damn, it would be so much fun to watch these guys have a success. And then Calais, obviously, dominating at the age of whatever the hell he is. He's just still so damn good. Obviously, interesting moves there at the quarterback position and everything that's going on. And then Marvin's dad comes out and rips the offense.

1:36:31JJ Watt:Then Marvin has a great game. And it's like, wow, maybe we should rip the offense earlier if that's what it's going to look like at this point. But I don't know. It's tough. I know what it's like down there in Arizona. I want them to be good so badly, and it would have been awesome if those one-score games had gone the other way and we were sitting there looking at a different story.

1:36:50Pat McAfee:Jacoby, the quarterback, obviously an incredible leader and ability to navigate through the offense, and they have a lot of faith in him as well, as they should. Huge Monday Night Football win. Marvin Harrison Jr. said he was pumped up to be a focal point of the offense, and we assume that'll be the same going forward.

1:37:06JJ Watt:Can you tell me what Walter Nolan did in the game? I'm not joking when I tell you I did not see the game. I'll just feed all that up.

1:37:13Darius Butler:Yeah, so he had one sack, a batted pass, two tackles for loss, and played against two really good guards. He showed up. I mean, he looks like he's going to be a presence.

1:37:22JJ Watt:Nice. Look forward to seeing him on regular television next week. It'll be cleared up. If you go to the website.

1:37:29Darius Butler:Speaking of that same subscription, I got that same subscription because I used to be able to watch things. Now you can't watch anything. It's just replays. You have an upgrade. I don't know what this – They got you for – They don't even let you upgrade.

1:37:40JJ Watt:it's not money i got like i got the money i just don't want to sign up i don't want to enter my

1:37:46Pat McAfee:information again so do you have to do it sometimes you have to do it on the device in which you uh registered have you ever seen that one oh yeah yeah you have to do this on the device in which you register i'm like i don't know what fucking device that is when was the amount of people told

1:38:01JJ Watt:me to put bunny ears on like yeah no offense i don't know how to do that i don't know how to get it to the right television in the house like i'll be honest with you i got a couple of them in the house and i don't know how to get from my roof to the tv in my living room it's a little waste

1:38:18Pat McAfee:all right but on that little ways i don't know if the bunny ears even work with modern television like if you have a smart tv i'm not 100 people were screaming at me in the comments get some

1:38:28JJ Watt:bunny ears get some bunny ears what the what do you want me to do with bunny ears doesn't work for ESPN. It would work for basic cable like ABC, NBC, CBS. But yeah, you ain't getting ESPN with buttons. You know what? Take a key,

1:38:43Pat McAfee:put it on a stick, hold the smart TV, go to the highest hill, and just get a lightning rod. That should be able to run into it.

1:38:51JJ Watt:You gotta put a disclaimer on that, dude. You gotta put some kind of disclaimer on that. Oh, sorry, that won't work, maybe.

1:38:56Pat McAfee:JJ, I don't know if that'll work.

1:38:58JJ Watt:Some kid's gonna go out there at the top of a hill and just get smoked by a light. Don't do it, kids.

1:39:03Pat McAfee:Don't do it. AQ helped me out on how to get it on ESPN

1:39:07Darius Butler:because he explained it to me when you upgraded your browsers to premium. It's the same idea, right? See, that changed because they've changed the state laws everywhere.

1:39:19Darius Butler:Put your ID in AQ. Put it in. All right. AJ has a last question for you, Jage. But, Jage, obviously on that note, the Cowboys brought in Logan Wilson and Quentin Williams, especially Quentin Williams. What does he bring to a team when you have a big dude like that that is that dynamic in the middle? He can help a lot. I don't think people understand what kind of impact a big dude like that can have on a defense.

1:39:44JJ Watt:Yeah, it sounds like they could have used a Monday night from what everybody's saying. I don't know.

1:39:50JJ Watt:Yeah, I mean, Quentin Williams is a guy. I love Quentin Williams' game. I mean, he can play the run. He can play the pass. um i mean you look at the jets and you're like all right so you trade these two stellar young pieces that you have in hopes of drafting more stellar young pieces like i just i'm not 100 % sure yes it's a huge haul and yes they got a bunch of great stuff but quinnon's great uh do i know if he's going to fix that dallas defense no i don't know that but he's certainly going to make it significantly better the guy's a damn good football player when you have somebody that can plug up the run like that in the middle and rush the passer it makes your entire defense better so good for them now if you compare i know there's been that side-by-side done with the micah parsons trade and everything that's been done with the picks and everything with it i'm i mean micah parsons is

1:40:40Pat McAfee:still micah parsons yes he certainly is in money time micah is going to show up in a big way for the green bay packers we think late in the year which will obviously pay off the entire trade and then some. Here's some Hembo stats about maybe Quinnen helping. Jerry Jones on trading Michael Parsons. We need to be able to stop to run. He's here, there, there. We tied. Most run stop wins as a D tackle this season. Quinnen Williams, 61 of them. There you go, J.H. That's all you need to see. Hembo's dropping a stat. Most run stops by D tackle, Quinnen Williams. Period. That's all you need to know. Most run stop wins, not most run.

1:41:15Those aren't tackles. What exactly are those? Well, he's eating up.

1:41:18AQ Shipley:You know, ball.

1:41:21JJ Watt:Let's run stop wins. I mean, wouldn't it have to be a win for you to stop the run? How do you have a run stop loss?

1:41:29Pat McAfee:Here's the explanation, please. A defender can earn a win by doing any of the following. Beating his blocker so he's in better position to stop the run.

1:41:37JJ Watt:Disrupt him. Oh, dude, dude, dude. Yeah. Swimming out of the egg. What the hell is this? Can you let him face it, please? No. There's a semicolon.

1:41:47Pat McAfee:There's a semicolon. disrupting the pocket or running lane by pushing his blocker backward. Okay. Containing the runner such that he must adjust his running lane. Okay. Or recording a tackle within three yards of the line of scrimmage. That's a run-stop win. And guess who has the most of them? Dallas Cowboys' Quentin Williams. Wow. James?

1:42:08JJ Watt:These people that just make up new things. Like, I've seen, like, there's, like, you know. You should see the EPA on these run-stop wins. Yeah. In the grades on the trades. Seth Walter says that – do we know who that guy is? Is that a real guy? He's a graph man. That's the only thing we know. The guy just makes graphs. No. A lot of them. Is that what he does? Because he gave Colts a D and a Jets an A. If it's not coming from Bill Barnwell, then you don't need to worry about what it says. Thank you, Ty. Yeah, exactly. Gump's a big Bill Barnwell guy Guy knows ball

1:42:48Pat McAfee:I did not expect Gump from the back saying whoa whoa whoa Bill Barnwell will tell us the truth in this entire thing Jage how's Burnley how's Espanol

1:42:57JJ Watt:We're doing good Espanol suffered a loss midweek Oh no We're in sixth right now West Ham coming up this weekend And Espanol We got Villarreal Villarreal Good squad So it'll be good. But Burnley-West Ham will be a great one. And Espanol is another shot. Life is good.

1:43:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, it is good. Wisconsin is going to get good.

1:43:21JJ Watt:We're out of the relegation, so we don't need to go there. Burnley's out of the relegation zone. Espanol's in six. That's good. Burnley's out

1:43:28Pat McAfee:of relegation. We're going to stay up with the big... Okay, Burnley. Let's go.

1:43:32Darius Butler:It's a schedule to start the season. You guys have been playing well.

1:43:34Pat McAfee:Gumpy, what are your thoughts on Espanol maybe going on a run after taking on Villarreal this weekend?

1:43:39Darius Butler:They should. Villarreal's playing midweek, so you could get them a little bit tired rotating some changes. Espanol bounces back this weekend. Gotta beat West Ham if you're Burnley. West Ham's struggling.

1:43:48Pat McAfee:Is Burnley still parking it or not parking it? I forget what their problem was. They would have the lead and then they wouldn't park it and then the other team would just blow right through them.

1:43:56Darius Butler:I tell you what, I'm not shitting you. This Burnley team's playing some good footy. Really? Thank you, Gar. They are much better than when they were up in the Prem the last time around.

1:44:06Pat McAfee:Okay, how about Espanol? What do we think of Espanol? Obviously, they were like third in all of the Spanish Super League. Yeah, there it is. La Liga. Are they still up there? What style of play do they have? And are they exciting?

1:44:17Darius Butler:They're very impressive to watch. They're top six. Hopefully maybe

1:44:20JJ Watt:Champions League or Europa League for JJ's boys. Champions League? Yeah. We got the boys rolling over there in Spain, man. We got Pere Milla. We're living good. We're living good in Barcelona right now.

1:44:31Pat McAfee:Have you... You've never been a part of Champions League obviously. That has to be massive for ownership if you get in the Champions League, I would assume.

1:44:38JJ Watt:Yeah. I mean, obviously that is the ultimate goal, to be playing European football and everything that comes with it. So much money. He just saw dollar signs. Look at that face. You got to be real careful because that's when people get in trouble. You make it and then you're like, oh, my gosh, you got all this cash. Throw it back in. And then, like, you got to be – the business side of this has been really, really fun and a lot. Put that in your bank account. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. No, no, you don't put it – you do it smart so that you can sustain yourself. We've seen teams go and play in Champions League ball and get relegated.

1:45:10JJ Watt:like you got to be really smart a lot more games during the week your team can get thinned out

1:45:15Darius Butler:get banged up like you got to build uh depth in your squad to play in those competitions yeah

1:45:19Pat McAfee:you got to make sure you're not just pocketing and looking at the bottom line change okay yeah

1:45:24JJ Watt:trust me you know there ain't no pocketing anything going on over here it's expensive

1:45:29Pat McAfee:as shit to run these teams you're the best you're the absolute greatest hope you have success in that as you have in everything else in your life you're the man ladies and gentlemen you're this Next week at Houston. You're in Houston, Houston.

1:45:40JJ Watt:Yeah. Yeah, we got Houston versus Jaguars, who are hot on the Colts' tail. Five and three. Colts. Seven and two. Seven and two. But if Berlin slips, if Jags, I mean, who knows? Who knows what's happening in this AFC style? They got real interesting after that Pittsburgh game.

1:45:57Pat McAfee:Oh, and Cam Little's hitting 68-yard field goals.

1:46:00JJ Watt:How about that?

1:46:00Pat McAfee:They're trading for wide receivers that everybody wants. I mean, Jacksonville's a whole different team than they were. And Houston appeared as if they were going to be on a different trajectory there for a couple weeks. CJ Stroud gets hurt, kind of changed that conversation, I guess, huh? That's kind of everybody's out on the Texans all of a sudden?

1:46:15JJ Watt:I mean, it's tough, man. The Texans defense right now is literally playing like a historic defense in the NFL. Number one in total yards, number one in total points. Like, they're doing everything possible. It's just they're not. They've had 10 attempts to score from inside the two-yard line this year, and they've scored on zero of them. Ten times inside the two-yard line. scored zero that's heartbreaking you have to be able to put the ball in the end zone man um yeah but that's that's what's going on there um the defense is playing phenomenal so i'm really looking forward to seeing that and if you wouldn't mind letting the jaguars fans know because they saw the announcer pairing come out and they were not happy that i was calling the texans game and they think it's going to be a one-sided fest so if you wouldn't mind calming them down because

1:47:00Pat McAfee:there are my mentions already i told i i said here earlier listening to you call the massive tj Watt's success and Steelers game against the Colts. I didn't think you were... There was one time you said we very ecstatically and I was like, okay, I'm going to red zone. Scott Hanson's getting my ears going forward. That was at the very end. Because then you said...

1:47:18JJ Watt:Well, I said we about us. When you kicked the outside against us, I said we. And Ian had to remind me that I have to tell people that I played for the Texans. He was like, when you say we, you mean... I said the Texans.

1:47:30Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, because you went to Arizona. We talked about that. But on that note, I think you do a very good job of calling it you also look at moxie in there brother it is entertaining listening to you uh kind of go about doing your thing and the energy alongside mr eagle there is fantastic as well i think you're crushing it we're proud of you i appreciate it i appreciate you guys

1:47:47JJ Watt:very much i learned a lot from y 'all so i uh i try and take some of your guys fun and energy and

1:47:51Pat McAfee:banter with me as well yeah i see ash jade just still going it's a good one you should continue to do that especially because we can learn more about one of the greatest of all time and all i need you to do is go to keep my networks.com and maybe you can continue to watch post it from the sauna next time do it from the sauna 194 in there bro yeah love it love it that's really hot i do

1:48:12JJ Watt:i got the red light in the sauna and cold every day i love it that sauna is no joke i don't red

1:48:16Pat McAfee:light i got the uh the rocks the rocks where i'm tossed no i i no i don't do the red light i don't

1:48:21JJ Watt:do infrared i do real sauna with you i'm with you i don't i don't i'm not an infrared guy

1:48:26Pat McAfee:They said my insides getting better. Oh, you do red light after the sauna.

1:48:30JJ Watt:The AQ face thing, yeah.

1:48:32Pat McAfee:You still doing that? Looks like it.

1:48:34Darius Butler:Yeah. I'm doing it. I got the tower now. I got the tower. Wow. Just walking there naked? Full body, standing there naked. Ten minutes each side. Hold on, sir. What's happening? Visual. You put your arms out like that, like you're Jesus? Like a spray tan? Are you standing there for ten minutes? Oh, yeah. And then you turn? Your shoulder's got to be so tired.

1:48:56JJ Watt:Why do you stand there with your arms out? You spread your feet off. Make sure they get that.

1:49:01Pat McAfee:You never know. You never know what you're going to need. Honestly, you never know. This is what you're saving your network for, people.

1:49:06JJ Watt:Make sure you get that on your network. We're going to sign the petition.

1:49:10Pat McAfee:We're talking about health and wellness here. And honestly, you take that away. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. JJ Watt.

1:49:15Darius Butler:Yay, JJ.

1:49:17Pat McAfee:That was an aggressive move by you, I will say, on television.

1:49:20Darius Butler:It was good, though. It's authentic. You made it save someone's life.

1:49:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're a method actor, man. He just went right back into that infrared full body scanner and said, what do I normally do? Well, I do this, and then I do this, and then I normally do this for a little bit. Kind of get a little insides, kind of get it going. All right. Frankie Louvoo's suspension was lifted, and now he's just getting a$100 ,000 fine. My sources from the league aren't happy. Really? Yeah, that the suspension has been lifted. They think it is a very dangerous play. They are taking it very seriously. The NFL heard what B.A. said yesterday about how it's not good. It's even more dangerous than the horse caller.

1:49:57Pat McAfee:And if we listen to what Jim Harbaugh said about it whenever the rule was kind of being initiated, I think now we all kind of see what they're referring to whenever this tackle happens. So I think the league is very much like, hey, we need to get this style of tackle out of the game. And obviously it was put up for review. Former player... Derek Brooks. Derek Brooks overturned a suspension and gave a$100 ,000 fine, which is a lot of money. Obviously, that is still a lot of money in the fine. Oh, yeah. But yeah, the NFL, I guess, is not necessarily thrilled that that was lifted from a one-game suspension because they would like this completely out of the game.

1:50:30Pat McAfee:So they think precedent has to be set. I assume Derrick Brooks said$100 ,000 is a lot of money. Frankie Louville will change the way he tackles. So it's an interesting dynamic here on what they're trying to make the game and what they're trying to not make the game.

1:50:41Darius Butler:Well, then they have to call. If you're not going to throw the flag, none of these are flags. He doesn't get called one time for it. And, I mean, believe me, I don't want to see more flags. I don't want the refs more involved in it. But how are you going to find a guy? It's not fine, but how are you going to suspend a guy when none of it gets called in-game? Doesn't that kind of have to change the in-game refereeing?

1:51:00Pat McAfee:AJ Hawk, your thoughts on it all? Obviously, we've been... That's so nasty right there. We've all been a part. We have, as a show, been a part of this becoming a rule. This would have been the first ever suspension for it. Your thoughts? Yeah, I think sometimes it's not necessary to do this. Obviously, you've got to change the way you tackle it. It looks so dangerous. But some of them, especially like this one, I don't think... I could have seen this one called, that one looks so nasty. because you could have gone through him and tried to go through the quarterback instead of pulling him back on top of you.

1:51:27I don't think he has any ill intent, but it does. These ones, I think sometimes you can definitely avoid these.

1:51:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I think it's his style of tackling, which we went back to like James Harrison. Like James Harrison, whenever they were changing what the rules were, he got like$750 ,000 in fines. Back whenever$750 ,000 was, and still is a massive number, but I'm saying like back in the day when that was happening, it was huge. but they were transforming how people had to tackle. And James Harrison, since he's a little kid playing youth football, only tackled one way. And then he gets to the league, they're like, we're not doing that anymore. And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do? And now he is teaching his son, hey, you're going to do what that did because this is football.

1:52:06Pat McAfee:Let's make sure we remember that. But you can do it differently. And what the NFL saw was, although at the beginning it was a huge wave of, oh, no, we're not going to be able to do it, an entire generation of football players change the way they tackle, change the way they do everything. and it's like this is almost what they're trying to do with the hip drop tackle even though there's not as many people that use the hip drop tackle style maybe like Frankie Louvoo.

1:52:27AQ Shipley:Yeah and it's tough and I understand why the league will be upset because this is a very dangerous play but I do love the move just finding him 100k and then letting him play because every game it's not like the NBA or MLB every game matters so much so I do like the decision by Derek Brooks but Louvoo definitely has to change the way he's tackling and 100 grand that'll get you That'll get you learned real quick.

1:52:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, 100 grand is a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, to anybody. Oh, yeah. Anybody at this point, 100 grand is still a lot of money. But the NFL is very much like this can't be – because those are nasty injuries, too. They look nasty. Yeah. You know? Those feel worse than the horse collar, for sure, to me. Yeah, and B.A. mentioned that. He's like, it's like a horse collar, but it's even worse because you've got a full body on the bottom of it. And those are also the injuries that, you know, get picked up by people that aren't football fans.

1:53:12AQ Shipley:Yeah. Those can be career-altering injuries. Yeah, it's just all not good for the NFL and for the football.

1:53:18Pat McAfee:So, they're trying to change that. that Derrick Brooks, like, 100 ,000 seems fair. They didn't even throw a flag on it, but if he doesn't stop, we'll obviously take the next steps. We're trying to set a little precedent here. We're here on ESPN currently. We'll be off in about 11 seconds or so. You can join us digitally. We're live on YouTube, ESPN +, Disney +, and TikTok Live. This show's dumb. The fact that you watch is even more crazy. Have a good one. Goodbye. That might be the best send-off I've ever heard. Hell yeah. Yeah, it might be the best one ever. But I do appreciate the fact that I, you know, reach out to the NFL and like, hey, heard you guys' little punishment got lifted.

1:53:53Pat McAfee:And they're like, yeah, not happy. This is not. Legit. Because they don't want it in the game. That is in for good. The only way you can work out for Lou Ludo is in a game because guess what? He's not tackling like that in practice, especially during the season. You're not taking people to the ground like that. That's not happening. But with how natural he is at doing it, it's clear this is how this guy made it to the NFL problem. This is his style of football. and it's like, buddy, you're just Clay Matthews right now. You're James Harrison right now.

1:54:19AQ Shipley:You saw it with Kareem Jackson. So Kareem Jackson, James has been suspended. But Kareem Jackson, for lack of a better term, he was like a headhunter. He was like an old school throwback. Like you come across the middle, you throw a high ball like you're going to pay for it. And he played that way until it was over. He was suspended, what, like three games I think? Three or four, yeah. Which is crazy in NFL talk when you're talking about something that's happening between the lines. so I understand why the NFL wanted out for player safety but I do love that this shows that there is a real process that it's not just the NFL just dropping a hammer saying hey this is how it's going to be forget what anybody else says so I do love that part of yeah the NFL not liking it exactly yeah I think that's for players for sure for sure we should be taking a victory lap

1:55:04Pat McAfee:absolutely it's terrible that's happening but the players should be like yeah okay we have some power like we have some like we have some recourse if they want to punish us we have a little bit way to fight. Way to point that out, actually. I didn't even think about that. That's a great call. This is the first time, have we ever heard the NFL be like...

1:55:20AQ Shipley:We don't like it. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I've got to think about it, because it's usually you think, like, okay, it's a judge, jury, executioner, but to have somebody at the table that can say, okay, nah. Checks and balances. But Louvoo, he's a guy, he brings energy every, you know, whatever your thoughts is on the commander's defense, that's your thoughts, but he's one of their guys that they rally behind, for sure.

1:55:40Pat McAfee:Let's talk about some other news around the NFL, a little bit better news. Drake May was doing a Q &A at Bryant University, which is in Rhode Island, which is obviously in New England. Listen to this reaction for Drake May.

1:56:14Pat McAfee:That's fucking sick. Let's go to Connor. I mean, Drake's new king of New England alongside Tate. obviously and all the boys for the Celtics feels like this is the next generation of sports stars up there and shout out to having the perfect guy feels like he's humble he can handle it this isn't something that is going to change the way he operates and all he's doing is getting better and better I love that you guys are all the way on board from beginning in the bottom of the revolution region all the way to the top is this kind of what you were sensing from the beginning

1:56:45Darius Butler:of the Drake May era yeah it's incredible I mean definitely didn't think it happened this quick but that goes back to Mike Vrabel. And, you know, you mentioned Tatum, Joe Mazzulla. Like, the leaders of all the four main, you know, franchises, Alex Cora, the Red Sox. I mean, Marco Stern for the Bruins. The Bruins are actually outperforming how everyone thought they were going to do. Like, the head coaches at all these stops is kind of my whole entire thing is why I think everyone's very confident in the sustained success because, you know, Drake May, hopefully he plays for 20 years. And hopefully Mike Vrabel's his head coach for all 20 of those years.

1:57:18Darius Butler:and then there's clips coming out of Vrabel going up to Drake May right before their last drive where they kind of iced the game before, you know, taking the victory formation and it's Vrabel going up to him saying like, hey, all the shit that happened before this drive doesn't matter. Like, go get a first down. Let's win the game. Let's get out of here. And we're 7-2. So people loving Drake May, incredible. Him being only 23 years old, incredible. But more so Mike Vrabel doing this on Sunday.

1:57:48Well, everything that's happened doesn't matter. We're going to need one try to win the game. I don't know what time it's going to be, but we're going to need one more try. All right, one try, man, one try.

1:57:59Pat McAfee:Okay, and Diggs getting in there, some good leadership. And Diggs said, I don't know how Vrabel got me to buy in, but I'm all the way in. But buying in, obviously a big deal. Leadership, a big deal. But Drake may be in the right guy for it all. Seems like a perfect fit. And you saw it from him whenever you golfed one round with him. After Clyde Christensen, who's former Indianapolis Colts coach. Right, right, right. who's been around a long time, Peyton, Andrew, Tom, you name it. He was at North Carolina. It's his alma mater. I believe he was going back there because family to live closer after a life of coaching the NFL.

1:58:28Pat McAfee:And he told us when Drake May was coming out, this is the guy. He's Peyton, right? But he's also very athletic. I mean, he led us in rushing, right? I mean, you're talking about everything that's right about a quarterback. This guy, his youngest brother, got older brothers, very competitive. He's not the only successful guy. He's been there. He's been popular. He's been big man on campus for like the last three years here in North Carolina. There's nothing that's going to rattle him or change him. That's what Clyde Christensen was saying. Then you went and golfed with him, and you came back an hour later, sat down on our set, and was like, Drake Mays, the number one guy.

1:59:00Pat McAfee:It does feel like he's the perfect guy for all of this.

1:59:02AQ Shipley:Yeah, because it's one thing to be the big man on campus, and I think it's another thing to be kind of the little brother and kind of look up to kind of the people you see as your heroes, whether it be your dad or your big brothers or your uncles, your sisters, your mom, just a bunch of athletes and you kind of become that little brother and then you get thrust into this this limelight and like all these quarterbacks like all the great ones that we either play with or cheered for they're all very different they're all themselves they're all unique they're obviously all talented but him being himself and then that little clip from Vrabel like it seems like a small thing that's a big thing because a lot of times in these high pressure situations especially young players you can be kind of like too much and a lot of times the coaches on the sideline that make it worse you know they're panicking or they're trying to get so just to have a head coach come over and say hey I trust you settle down whatever happened happened we just need one drive and then I've seen clips of even digs being mic'd up going up to the coach being like hey anything you want me to echo and get it back and around the team so when you have vets that are buying in you know variable's doing things right but we talk about with jets none of it matters if you don't figure out at the quarterback position it looks like he's figured it out and whatever whatever role you play on this New England Patriots team, you will be a king in the New England area.

2:00:12AQ Shipley:Like, if you are a Patriot, it didn't matter. Like, I'm sure it was like this in Green Bay or in Pittsburgh. You can be the 52nd man on the roster. You're going to be going and getting a few grand for the rest of your life, signing autographs whenever you want. So I love what he's doing. And obviously, you know, they're used to championships up there, and they look like they have the right pieces in place to go and get another one.

2:00:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, you become a made man in Pittsburgh as well. So that's why the 2005 team going back to Pittsburgh this weekend was such a big deal, I think, and an influence on the current team. But New England has had so much success. And just getting a chance to relive that through Drake May has to be special. What are they calling him?

2:00:47Darius Butler:I saw it on the internet. I really wish I kind of thought of it first. But a mobile Matt Stafford. And it's basically to a T. I mean, AQ brought up one of his throws against the Saints where he's stepping up off the wrong foot. Just a little flick, touchdown. and I'll tell you what, it looked a lot like Mass Effect.

2:01:05Pat McAfee:Drake May passes Patrick Mahomes for longest streak of games at 200-plus pass yards and 100-plus passer rating by a player under the age of 24. He's under 24 still. Eight of them straight in their only role. And AJ, what do you think about the culture that Vrabel's setting? Are the Patriots for real? The Patriots are for real. Drake May's number two in the MVP odds right now.

2:01:22Darius Butler:Still playing the Jets twice. Jeez. Yeah, I mean, it shows how valuable it is when you figure out that if you're drafting a quarterback in the first round, It pays to get it right. When you get it right and then you pair that up with Mike Brable and what he has done throughout that whole team, that's why the Patriots are rolling. Watching Drake walk in, that's pretty awesome, man. That's such a New England thing, too. There's these college kids chanting MVP for him. Like he said, he didn't expect it. It's a good time to be a Patriot, I feel like, right now. It probably will for the next 10, 12, 15 years, it looks like.

2:01:53Darius Butler:And that's why no matter what, no matter how you feel about the crafts, it took balls to fire Gerard Mayo after one year. It really did. because Vrabel was out there. And Drake May might still be Drake May, whether Mayo was there or not. But if Mayo's there, McDaniels isn't there. And McDaniels is a huge reason of his success. And not to mention, like, Doug Marone, who's the O-line coach now, huge reason for the offensive line success. For the crafts, truthfully, hats off because it's nothing without that.

2:02:23Pat McAfee:When he said McDaniels, he gave a big point. You love what they're doing with Drake, huh?

2:02:26Darius Butler:That's exactly where I was going to go next. Scheme and fit are everything, and McDaniels is back to doing the same stuff they did when Brady was there. It's fullback. It's, hey, let's start with the run game. Let's get the play action going. Let's get him easy throws early. Get his confidence up, and then let's take the shots. And he has the ability to take the shots. They've gotten better with the O-line. You mentioned Doug Marone. That's one of the biggest hirings all offseason. Former head coach, O-line guru, right? Like, he comes in there after having Skarnecchia there for so many years as the O-line coach.

2:02:54Darius Butler:Took a step backwards, get Marone back in. Now they're playing at a high level.

2:02:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, I love the thought of McDaniels going back up there having success and already tasting what a head coaching was like and being like, nah, I don't like it. I'm good with just kind of chilling here. Family likes it here. I mean, we've seen a lot of places. We turned a plane around, obviously, going to Indy, but we went out to Denver. We did some other stuff. We're good here, especially with how good Drake May is going to be. I think BA almost had that mindset with Andrew Luck. Now, BA hadn't been a head coach a couple different times with Havid Failing whenever Andrew Luck became an offense coordinator, but BA was with Andrew's rookie year.

2:03:24Pat McAfee:and I think if you ask B.A., B.A. would have been good, which is, all right, we'll just do this. Now, I'm getting offered some other stuff, so I'm going to need a little bit more. You can go ahead and find that somewhere else. All right, fuck, I'll go be a head coach, I guess, Arizona Cardinals, and then I'll be a head coach, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I'll win a Super Bowl. But some of those coordinators, they do see something, and they see what their life has been, and it's like, this is a happy life for my family. I'm going to get paid a couple million bucks here, and we're going to have success.

2:03:50Pat McAfee:We're going to be hunting for it. Maybe they stick around up there.

2:03:52AQ Shipley:Especially playing for a defensive hit or not an offensive hit. It's your show. You run the show. We trust you with the offense. And obviously Josh McDaniels, he's a made man in New England. He's won multiple Super Bowls. Coach Tom Brady, all the good things. But when you have that pairing, obviously that was the pairing with Bill and all the different OCs that came through. I'm sure OCs probably like that relationship as well.

2:04:16Pat McAfee:All right, so those are some takeaways from the week. Let's go to A. Kusch's takeaways from week nine of the NFL season. Here we go. Brissette's brilliance on Big Dons. Obviously, you're the Arizona Cardinals color commentator. Had a big one on Monday night. Those of us that couldn't watch on YouTube TV, listen to your call, and that's kind of how we survived through it all, so we appreciate you doing that. But you're saying on Big Dons, Brissette showcases brilliance. What do you mean by that?

2:04:43Darius Butler:Yeah, he's been great on third down. I think a lot of times I mentioned it earlier. You just run a screen or hand it off on a draw. They run pressure right here. First third down of the game. Watch the subtle move left. Put it right on Marvin Harrison Jr. And by the way, he was fantastic in this game. They target him early and often. Next clip right here. Again, bring the blitz. You get the overload right. Check out this blitz, D-Butts. They're going to drop out the left and bring the DB. Get the overload to the right. There comes the DB. Sit in the pocket and deliver another one. Trusted it. Trusted it.

2:05:10Darius Butler:That was third and 10. Huge gain. 15-yard gain. This last one, 18-yard gain on third down again. Here it is. Five-man rush. That's another blitz. Sit in the pocket. Feel the pressure. Deliver it on time. Dimes.

2:05:22Pat McAfee:It feels like there's one guy he's throwing that ball to a lot. Jacoby sees, we got a man out there. We got Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah, we should throw him the ball. Yeah, but he dropped the ball early. Yeah, but also he didn't do the combine. He didn't do the meetings, and we still draft him really hot because this guy is a freak show. They're really finding it out there, it feels like.

2:05:38AQ Shipley:Yeah, I love it. When you build that continuity, you build that trust with the young wide receiver and the quarterback. Same thing with Trey McBride. When you build that with them, because you wanted more out of Marvin Harrison since coming into the league, you see these young wide receivers take over early. So get him going. His pops came out and said, hey, I don't know what the fuck's going on out there. So they figured it out. I'd love to see what I see.

2:05:58Pat McAfee:There's been a lot of conversation about what goes on over there. Jacoby Brissett, incredible leader, and I think everybody's feeling it in the building is what Peter Schrager said. What's your next takeaway coming out of week nine of the NFL season? AQ?

2:06:08Darius Butler:Darnold dropping dimes. Oh! He started this game 16 of 16. He was unbelievable. Let's take a look at this first player right here. Hits Arroyo, the rookie tight end. Watch this ball. Just over. Look at that seam ball. How good is that? And there's about 16 clips like that in this game. I only chose three here. Let's look at this next one. Sit back, sit back. Watch this. Little hitch. Drop it to JSN on the sideline. Just drops it in a bucket. This last one.

2:06:36AQ Shipley:It's two minutes, too.

2:06:37Darius Butler:Let's take a look at Gray's able to left guard first. Let's take a look at this one. He recognizes it. Oh, we got a dropper. Boom. Get him out of the way. Step left. Hit the seven route to the rookie Horton. Unbelievable.

2:06:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, Sam Darnold's special. What they're doing on the road, too, is insane. 11-1. Yeah, on the road. And this is a long-ass trip. I mean, D.C., Seattle, that's a long-ass trip. They look more prepared than anybody else. McDonald's an incredible leader. Darnold, perfect quarterback for them.

2:07:01Darius Butler:He's incredible, and they are the best in the National Football League. Kubiak comes in as the offensive coordinator. They are leading the league in play-action pass. It's incredible what they've been doing.

2:07:09Pat McAfee:Good for Sam Darnold, by the way. We've talked about it a lot of times. Good for Sam Darnold. We thought he was going to Seattle to disappear. Yeah. We thought there was a chance that was going to happen. and they had a completely different mindset. They're taking over over there in the NFC West. And then, obviously, your big takeaway, number one, is curtain call. Curtain call.

2:07:25Darius Butler:Yeah, let's take a look.

2:07:26Pat McAfee:They played like steel curtain, didn't they?

2:07:28Darius Butler:Yeah, two batted balls right in a row, 36 years old. Cam Hayward, look at this, stops a touchdown, batted pass. That's the first guy. Now let's get to the next one. Here we go, Mr. T.J. Watt. Did you see that? Can we run that back real quick? Watch him fake the long arm, then go to the dip and rip. Goes right around, sack, fumble, and recover. He baited butter right there. Yeah, Adam. Unbelievable. Now, let's go to the other side. No, I'm just saying, why are they doing it against us? Sorry, here it comes again. Other side, Highsmith. This looks familiar, right? Dip and rip, go around, sack.

2:07:59Pat McAfee:So, honestly, I was watching them get beat like turnstiles against this team. You know, you just showcased a couple of them here. Our offensive line has been good. Is this the depth issue with the quarterback? Is this just pure pressure? Like, what is it? Why do you think this happened on this particular game versus maybe every other game this season?

2:08:15Darius Butler:So I think their tackles were a little soft, and they didn't do as much play action with the chipping and all that stuff, which I'm really confused about because they got some of the best edge rushers in the game. The other thing inside, Quentin Nelson always struggles against the Steelers for whatever reason. If you look over the years, he's always struggled against Cam Hayward and Fletcher Cox, both what, big, powerful dudes in the middle. So I think he puts a little bit too much onus on trying to sit and then get swimmed, and then there you go. You get the batted ball, you get the sack, you get whatever it is.

2:08:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, Cam Hayward's a beast. Been around a long time. Yeah, he's one of the pillars of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's why they had to get a deal done with him before the season started. But their D-line played like, you know, I would assume Steelers fans thought with the amount of money that they've given to them, exactly how they would have hoped they would play all season. Let's head to Hammer. Don, don. What do you think about the steel curtain call, AP Tone?

2:09:00Darius Butler:Yeah, it's awesome. And AQ highlighted the guys on the outside in Highsmith and Watt. but he talked about Cam, who's 97, 95, Keanu Benton, and 99, Derek Harmon, our first-round pick. They were awesome as well. So the three in the middle stopped the run, and then the edges were able to pin their ears back and get to Danny Dimes. So if we can do that, Super Bowl. I think there's a sack on there of 95. I think this is the clip right here, actually, against Gonzalez. Look at that move. A little Reggie White inside. Hump moves.

2:09:29Pat McAfee:I mean, that looks like a teach tape there on how to use your hands, especially in the middle of a line. Jalen Ramsey playing safety and Tomlin committing to that or Jalen committing to safety going forward because of injuries. What does that do for the Steelers defense?

2:09:43AQ Shipley:I mean, I like Jalen Ramsey. I love him as a defensive player, period. He can play the slot. He can play outside. He can play safety. At this stage in his career, I'm sure he would probably want to pick one because he's such a smart player. So when you can see the game and prepare and game plan and do all that shit, watch cut-ups, whatever you're doing from one position that you're going to be playing majority, that can make you much more impactful. But you got to stay healthy. You got to have guys that are talented enough to hold up on the edge.

2:10:09Pat McAfee:AJ, the Steelers' defense has always been good. You know, that's why the Steel Curtain is a real thing. Pittsburgh defense. Like, hey, defense. Pittsburgh. It's just kind of what you think about. Honestly, Bill Carr, obviously his team's great defense. Talk about that. You go all the way through this Tomlin era, it's always have good defense. They spend a lot of money. Pittsburgh's expecting good defense. They spend a lot of money on good defense. so when you don't have great defense at the beginning of the season, there is calls for fire alarms to be pulled. They show up like this. Do you think this is what they're going to look like the rest of the way, A.J.

2:10:40Pat McAfee:Hawk? Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, like what six turnovers, coaches always say turnovers come in bunches, so start getting them, and then, bam, they will continue to show up. I think as a defense, you can kind of, like, build momentum and have games like this that are pivotal games that we look back on after the season, and you think, like, okay, we finally started to put it together, and that was one game where we figured out, where it clicked in a lot of our guys' heads of, hey, this is what we are capable of doing.

2:11:03AQ Shipley:It's a good breakdown. Do you take any ownership of giving him the fucking rat poison and finally putting him in number one?

2:11:09Darius Butler:No, see, listen, some people got to learn how to handle success, you know. Whenever you get success, you got to handle it. You got to show up the next week. They laid an egg. I don't know what to tell you. That's not my fault.

2:11:17Pat McAfee:Tone, final thoughts?

2:11:19Darius Butler:Yeah, a couple unsung heroes. Peyton Wilson, I believe he's had 13 tackles back-to-back weeks. He's 41. He's the one who batted it coming off the edge that Jack Sawyer caught. And then trade deadline didn't happen yesterday. It happened last week. Got Kyle Duggar from the Patriots. He played, I think, like 74 of 75 snaps or something, 68 of 69, something like that. He came in, didn't hear his name once in a bad way in the game on Sunday. So him and Ramsey at the safety positions really kind of shered things up.

2:11:44Pat McAfee:Congrats to you, Steelers fans. Back on the wagon. Right. H, I don't know if you know that they're winning the Super Bowl again. The Steelers? Yeah. Yeah, I feel that. I felt that. I mean, you could tell on Tone's face. Like, yeah, that's what they think. Did you get a text or anything about not picking the Steelers this weekend? I did not actually know. I forgot I didn't pick them. Yeah, you took the Colts. We all did. I told you I got to take that. I said I was a believer of the Colts. I was like, I got to pick them now until they proved to me that I shouldn't pick them, I guess. You remember last time whenever we were out in Utah, they were chanting Fire Canada.

2:12:16Pat McAfee:A lot of Steelers fans in Utah. Okay? I think that's just, I don't know why. I don't know if Pittsburgh has marketed Utah, but it feels like there's a lot of Steelers fans out there every time we go out there. So many Steelers fans on my way off stage out of there going, like, tomorrow we got the Colts. And I go, we might hang 50 on you. Like, literally, just so matter of fact, that's all I was talking. Like, hey, this Colts offense, absolute juggernaut. Your defense, not good. Right? Isn't that kind of what's been happening? We might run wild on you. All those people watching that Steelers game, they thought the same thing going into it.

2:12:50Pat McAfee:Yinzers won't admit it, but they were definitely all thinking the same exact thing. Holy shit, we're going to lose by 60 to this Colts team. Our defense can't stop a fucking nosebleed. There's no chance we're going to be able to do that. Then five turnovers, they're swarming all over the place. They got sacks in bunches. They got the boys going crazy. The 2005 team's in there. The answers are like, I can't believe the Indianapolis Colts thought they were going to come here. What fucking asshole said that was going to happen? It's like everybody was thinking that. Now, fully different trajectory.

2:13:17Pat McAfee:And it might be the 2005 boys.

2:13:19AQ Shipley:Yeah, I think that's the X factor. I know it definitely played a role. I don't care if it was college or pro. Like, if you have a whole team of your guys who came in and kind of, hey, this is the standard. Obviously, Steelers' steel curtain goes way back. Carried the baton. Yeah, we got Dick LeBeau in the building. We got all these legends. And the Steelers already do a great job of keeping those guys around. Yeah, those guys are going to play better. I didn't think they were going to show back up as a legit fucking steel curtain, but they definitely showed up.

2:13:46Pat McAfee:That's a lot of people showing up for a year. Yeah. Like, that's a lot of people showing up for a year. Legends. And that makes sense for Pittsburgh. Like, it just makes sense for the entirety. Hey, Kuse, a lot of happiness these dudes brought to our lives.

2:13:57Darius Butler:Yeah, they sure did. And I got to play with some of them when I got drafted there. I mean, look at big Casey Hampton. He looks like he can still play.

2:14:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, he certainly can. He actually looks better than me.

2:14:05Darius Butler:Yeah, he does.

2:14:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, it looks incredible. Casey had to do what Casey had to do. I also think Casey, after the amount of respect we have for sumo wrestling, I think we can speak on this. Casey Hampton would have been a grand master champion sumo wrestler, if he would have known about the sport. With his leverage. He's a bit of a guy doing his thing. Look at Fanica. That guy was, what, down to like 135 pounds at one point because he was running Ironman. Yeah. He was like that. Good squad. Jeffrey just being right in the middle of the staff. I'd do a little bit. Yes.

2:14:34Darius Butler:I'll continue. Shout out B-Man. Aaron Smith. Oh, yeah, there he is. Travis Kershke, big hokey up top. Oh, I like it. Kendall Simmons, remember him? I do. AJ Hook.

2:14:44AQ Shipley:I.T.

2:14:45Darius Butler:He doesn't. AJ. I'm just looking around. I'm perusing through there. Sorry. Sorry. Hey, who's 81 down there? That's the greatest special teams players Steelers have ever had. That's Sean Moray.

2:14:57Pat McAfee:I remember the name. I remember the name, Sean Moray. Great hair. I like the way Sean Moray is.

2:15:00Darius Butler:91 could still play as well. That's Aaron Smith. Greatest 3-4 defensive end of all time right there.

2:15:05Pat McAfee:Great jawline, too. That fucking guy looks like he just got done roping. Jesus Christ, what a dog. Next foot.

2:15:11Darius Butler:Bottom left. Jeff Harding's up top, right in the middle behind Reed. Dan Crider right there in the middle, number 3-5. Yeah. Who's number three?

2:15:19Pat McAfee:Jeffrey. That was kicker.

2:15:22Darius Butler:He then went on to become the lead singer of Creed.

2:15:25Pat McAfee:Oh, actually. He looks sweet. Jeff Reed, exactly. Everything you're thinking right now, awesome. Jeff Reed is, yes. Just by looking at him, yes, he is everything. He's a legend. Yeah, he is. Made a lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. A lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't realize Tommy Gunn and Chuck Pagano are the same person. Yeah. They look identical. I guess Tommy Gunn Maddox, top left corner there, eight quarterback, obviously, for the team. He does have a little Chuck Pagano in him. I guess he was a super vibes guy in the locker room. Oh, I don't doubt it. I guess Tommy Gunn was a real lightning rod in there.

2:16:02XFL MVP? Yeah, I guess he was really the straw potentially in that locker room. Really?

2:16:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, from what I've been told, I've heard some stories of some stuff just in the past. Who knows what's real, what isn't. But all of them are like, yep, Tommy Maddox is awesome. Basically, it's how they talk about him. That old team is, and you're right. Them being around certainly did some. Wizenhunt there. I just saw him. I just saw it. It was my first time catching eyes on Wizenhunt here. I forgot the amount of legends that are in there. Former GM. Kevin Colbert. Right there.

2:16:31Darius Butler:Yep. Golly, that's our childhood. Yeah. Thanks for showing up, boys. I wish it was a different week. So, to hell with Mr. Lawton for scheduling that for the Colts weekend. Can we have that be enough? But hey, homecoming weekend. Can we do another one?

2:16:47Pat McAfee:Can we do another weekend? Maybe not the Indianapolis Colts. Let us kind of have our thing and do our thing here. That would have been great. Let's take a break. On the other side, Stanford Steve will be joining us for another college football convo. And I'll tell you what, with the college football playoff committee's first bracket reveal, there's going to be a lot of talk about A.J. Hawk. Who's sitting in number one? I think that's the Ohio State Buckeyes. Have they played anybody? I don't know. Have they? Certainly wasn't last night. They've shown up and dominated everybody. They've dominated everybody.

2:17:19Who did they play last week, AQ?

2:17:20Darius Butler:Relax, dude. They played a terrible team last week. Penn State didn't just shut down. I was there. They got athletes. They got studs, man. They look good. They looked the part. They looked good. They looked the part against Oregon, too.

2:17:34Pat McAfee:Remember, that goes a couple overtimes. Oh, yeah. They win that game. Who knows where we're at right now? Yeah, they're probably ranked number three or four in the playoffs. Because then they probably beat UCLA.

2:17:47Darius Butler:Certainly beat Iowa.

2:17:48Pat McAfee:Then they beat Northwestern at home.

2:17:51Darius Butler:Then they play Ohio State and they got a Heisman Trophy candidate and they just let him run by him all day long. Like he didn't know he could run. Like they didn't know he could get behind the defense. Oh, they trust their guys. They were calling quarters. They trust their guys. Wait till you see this highlight of the linebacker come up. Barvel Reese.

2:18:07Pat McAfee:He's the guy. What number is he? Eight?

2:18:09Darius Butler:Yeah, so there's about to be an offensive play here. Jeremiah Smith, obviously one hand. He's insane. And then you get this sick look. Right? Oh. Yeah. He's going to be an awesome pro as well. Teach shape. He's like 6 '4", like 245 too. He's a monster.

2:18:28Pat McAfee:He's huge. You and Sean Perkins before the first college game day whenever we're there for the Texas game. And Texas is back to being who maybe everybody thought they could be. They're like, hey. I was like, Sean, who should I say up there that makes me look like a super genius? He goes, number eight, Arvel Reese. He's the one. I go, sweet. thank you so much i go up there completely forget just basically just completely forget and then i think you had like six sacks or something in the first like two weeks or something like that they're like hey arvel reese is the guy i'm like sean knew before everybody and i could have looked like a genius but instead i'm riding alongside the wave of holy hell who's that guy with everybody else but you look at their schedule des desmond howard makes a point now he's a michigan guy so he's always going to make a point about Ohio State, but it is like you guys have just smacked everybody in the mouth basically.

2:19:15Pat McAfee:It's just everybody. And it's not your fault. I mean, fuck. It's not Ohio State's fault. And they've showed up and dominated everybody, but we don't really know. We don't really we have no idea because everything looks so damn easy for them, but that might just be who they are. They might just fucking do that to everybody. We have no idea. It certainly did to Penn State. What are you guys going to do? Yeah.

2:19:36Darius Butler:We're narrowing it down. They're tracking planes. I heard they're tracking planes flying. Boom. And we're narrowing it. All right. Throw your hat in the ring, AQ. Sorry.

2:19:44Pat McAfee:Pan, probably pretty good for that position. Yeah. Tell me you do it for 15 a year. 15 hunch because you love Penn State.

2:19:53AQ Shipley:Just do it for one of those stupid Jeff Landry contracts that he was talking about. Yeah, one of those. Incentivation. Incentivation. Incentivation by game.

2:20:01Darius Butler:Someone's a little salty they don't know Nebraska football. Oh, yeah. You. Stand down.

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2:21:37Pat McAfee:Accomplished author of college football, and he will certainly be a big piece of what we're about to do. The conversation we're about to have is not like the other ones. No, no, ladies and gentlemen. It's time for another college football convo with Stanford Steve. Yes, Steve-O. What's going on? Sweet. Digital camo. Yeah, what's going on? I mean, you look really cool right now. What is – so what do we have here, Steve? What is this? Just some Navy, fear of the bones, you know, Jolly Rogers, a little Navy. Big game this week. Hell yeah. Hey, Navy, tough one against North Texas. Not as tough as Tyler Huang with you under the upright, though.

2:22:13Pat McAfee:You know. I stand by it. Sorry, Jonah. Jonah. Jonah. Yeah, a lot of kicks I saw this weekend look very similar that were all called no good. I appreciate you doing this for the good of the team. I appreciate Herbstreit bringing out the blockers. I respect the fact that Jonah was a high school kicker all region going three of five. and I also love the fact that everybody was kind of saying no I think it hooked in and you were like nope because I heard everybody in the ear going no I think it's good I think it's good I don't think so says Stanford Steve everybody in there was saying it's good it's good it's good and you're like and then you even went a step further yep that thing actually what hey nope sorry about it that one left brother yeah that one yep as this kid's celebrating Steve's looking him right in his eye I don't think so brother you think that once a review obviously they counted it from the angles that we had, but I want to let you know I appreciate your integrity to say with these eyes, I didn't see it go in.

2:23:09Pat McAfee:And that's what that segment needs, is good integrity in there. So thank you, Stanford Steve. Yeah, I didn't think it was conclusive. When I went to the review, I didn't think it was conclusive. So yeah, we're moving on. Can't wait till this week. We'll get after it. I hope to go to Lubbock. I liked your move. I want to let you know. I do appreciate your move. And if the camera angle wasn't where it was, it might have looked a little different, like maybe it was a miss, and you're a hero. Instead, I think you were number 6 or 16th trending topic in the United States of America, and a lot of people were saying this guy's an asshole.

2:23:37Pat McAfee:This guy sucks. Yeah, this guy's an asshole. So I appreciate you sticking up. And then your tweet later. That SMU kick looked pretty similar. What was that? Same thing. Steve's got a point. And they said no good there. Steve's like, oh, I'm the bad guy? I know ball, is what Steve's saying. Oh, we covered the upright. You see? Oh, no, we didn't. Same kick. That's no good. It's like the same kick. That's no good.

2:24:09Pat McAfee:That is no good, Ty. Side by side, they're both wide right. Stanford Steve, you're a good man. We appreciate the hell out of you. Love you, Steve. We also did go to a website because you told us to. Yeah. Although we don't love that you were told to do that. We went because we love you. We support you. Same with Herbie. And just know that Stanford Steve, even though people are saying that you're trying to, you know, to rob these kids of money and everything like that, we think you're a good guy. We love you, Steve. We love you, buddy. Love you guys, too. Appreciate you. You know what else we love?

2:24:38Pat McAfee:The thought of starting with 12, counting down to one. And last night, we got the first bracket from the actual committee that's going to be doing the selecting of the college football playoff. What's your big takeaway from last night, Steve, and what you'd be thinking about? Basically, Tone's take was they don't respect Oregon much. It seems like Oregon doesn't have a lot of respect. They're one loss away from potentially being out of this entire thing. Is that something you agree with, and what else did you see? I see where they're coming from with Oregon, but I get it, with the best win being against Northwestern.

2:25:11Now, the good thing about Oregon, they have plenty of opportunities moving forward. I thought the top three, I wanted to see what that was going to look like, and I had a feeling Ohio State was going to be with what their game control and what their dominance has looked like. Plenty of people have talked about the competition that they've played, but I look at them being ahead of Indiana simply due to one reason. Look who Indiana scheduled in the out-of-conference, and look what Ohio State did in scheduling Texas in that opener. So I have no problem with Ohio State being number one. A &M might have the best win in the country at Notre Dame, but there's other games with the defense.

2:25:47I thought the board chair made good, valid points with how dominant the defenses of Indiana and Ohio State have been compared to one little thing about A &M, yeah, the defense has given up more points. The biggest takeaway to me is that this committee seems to be rewarding close losses. And when you look at Notre Dame with two close losses, at that last play of the game, they're ahead of, say, Texas, Iowa. Plenty to play for moving ahead. But it seems like they got a lot of credit for keeping it close against Indiana in a home game. So that was one thing I thought was pretty evident, that close losses look to be a factor for this committee.

2:26:32Pat McAfee:AP Tone, your thoughts on the close loss theory from Stanford Steve?

2:26:36Darius Butler:Yeah, I mean, he's absolutely correct. I mean, Notre Dame lost on a fumbled snap at home to A &M in overtime and then a close loss down in Miami in week one. And then if you want to talk about Texas Tech, who is right ahead of them, their only loss is on a last second play to Arizona State. So when Steve's talking about the close losses, for sure. And Georgia's close loss would be better than Oregon's, obviously, because IU kind of handled them a good bit, and their one loss being to Bama, who's the number four seed. So, yeah, as far as Steve's talking about those close losses, that is definitely a thing, and that's definitely going to drive people crazy.

2:27:14Pat McAfee:Yes, definitely going to drive people crazy, but this is also going to make some football people pumped about, hey, who do you play? What are your losses? Where are your losses? What do your losses look like? When were your losses? Like that is something that I think a lot of people hope that they add into the decision-making process. What are they going strictly off? Each kind of committee has their own thing, right? Stanford, Steve, isn't that kind of part of the problem? Like this committee might view things vastly different than last year's committee. And then people will say, well, last year they didn't.

2:27:39Pat McAfee:And it's like, well, this is a different, a completely different situation, right? Isn't that kind of like the evolving process of the CFP committee? Yeah, that's, you know, I think some things are subjective and object. You know, people want to throw all those big words around. I'd try and watch the games and figure out who's the best. But the way my record is going this year, I can't be on that any say. So I'm going to listen to the people that are in the room and the committee. The one thing I will say is that the idea of the losses with Miami, you know, I was interested in the Miami-Notre Dame comparison.

2:28:10And Miami being eight spots lower than Notre Dame tells you I think it's more recency. Miami is as frustrating in their losses as anybody. You get one loss where the quarterback throws four picks. Another loss, I believe they had 13 penalties in an overtime game where they had the lead and had a costly penalty for SMU to get a field goal. So Miami is, I think, the biggest loser to me right now because when you look at them moving forward, there's not a lot of opportunities along with Vanderbilt. They don't have a lot of opportunities to get wins and move up, as does Oregon. Or even, say, Texas Tech or BYU.

2:28:48They have ranked teams on their schedule. So Miami being down that far was pretty eye-opening to me.

2:28:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, bad for the ACC as well. And obviously, lose games, that's what's going to happen, especially up there. And you start asking yourself, is there going to be two bays out of the ACC? Are they only going to get one? Go ahead, Con, man.

2:29:06Darius Butler:Yeah, Steve, looking at the games remaining, especially with those teams that are on that bracket, Is Georgia Tech versus Georgia going to be the biggest game, you think, in that rivalry's history? But as far as just foreseeing what the playoff's going to be, Georgia Tech goes down, someone else goes in, Georgia goes down, they're out. All of a sudden, maybe a different SEC team, Texas, by chance, they slide in. What do you think about that situation kind of brewing now? Yeah, I think it's enormous, Connor. When you look at Georgia Tech and what they are, their strength of schedule, I believe, is in the hundreds.

2:29:40and that's a team that every year is going to play Georgia. So you've got an out-of-conference game there. They go and schedule Colorado, who you think is going to be all right, but they're getting worse and worse every week. You beat Clemson, and Clemson might not make a bowl game, and it's just tough. And then you have that game that catches up to you where you can't get your defense on track against NC State, and you get that first loss. But they are in control. The comparative thing, and that's why I think the Miami-Notre Dame thing is unfortunate also is as big as these conferences are, we get less and less head-to-head, and I think head-to-head should matter a ton.

2:30:17So the Georgia Tech game is going to be enormous as far as comparative. It's an out-of-conference game. It's an SEC versus ACC, and to Georgia Tech's point, it's not going to get in their way of making the ACC title game, but yeah, I thought they were ranked properly uh with with what their resume actually is when you take a step back and look at it uh but they got a couple chances for some monster wins uh but yeah that game is is

2:30:44Pat McAfee:enormous to your point you talk about the sec and the acc showing out there at that particular point for maybe how many bids should they have and then the big 12 obviously has a lot of teams vying for the big 12 championship still very much in it which is a beautiful thing i mean byu utah might be having a holy war reunion at the big 12 championship game but then you think about that other conference you know the one up north go ahead Ty yeah Steve when you look at the back half of the rankings with Iowa Michigan and USC all clustered right there do you think that suggests that more than likely the Big Ten is only going to be a three-bid league because obviously you could make the case that either SC or Iowa would swap with Oregon potentially because they both still have to play them and then obviously they're you know kind of saving grace to get a fourth team in would be Michigan potentially beating Ohio State.

2:31:33But the way this is set up right now, do you think that that means that the Big Ten is probably only getting three teams in? Yeah, that's the way it looks right now. What I will say to those teams individually, you know, control your own destiny, whatever, what have you, it's there. The issue I have is if Michigan wins and beats Ohio State, they're going to be in the Big Ten title game because their other loss is out of conference. So you would have potentially Indiana, Michigan in Indianapolis and Ohio State sitting with one loss and in the most recent number one team in the country, which would throw a whole flux.

2:32:09Iowa, it's there, man. I would be pumped if I was an Iowa fan. I am. You're 20. Yeah, I mean, what a weekend for you. You got the Packers Monday night. We got Iowa CBS 330. Good luck. I hope you don't have your kids this weekend. Jeez. You need some time.

2:32:26Pat McAfee:Send the kids out there. I see the kids out there. It's a big one. Iowa can win maybe the biggest game that they've had in a long time during the regular season. Yeah, I mean, it really is all in front of them. You know, it was kind of like a tongue-in-cheek fun. Lingering. Yeah, lingering. But, like, as of right now, I really do feel like they're going to beat Oregon this weekend. I don't think there's been this much juice around an Iowa team in quite some time in the building as well. But then the true test, I mean, obviously that's a test, but they have to go to USC. So it's like if they could get through both those teams, though, look out.

2:32:57Iowa might be sneaking in there as an 11 or a 12 seed.

2:33:00Darius Butler:Go ahead, Tom. Steve, I was just looking at that and I brought it up earlier, but I wanted to get your opinion. Notre Dame's sitting at 10 and then right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma, both with two losses as well. Texas still has Georgia and A &M. Oklahoma's still got Bama. It's a big if, but if those teams went out, is there a chance they jump Notre Dame and Notre Dame sitting on the outside with their two close losses? They should, but I don't see it happening. The most definite thing I feel about right now is that Notre Dame's going to get a home game in the playoff. When you look at what they've done, I just wish they were down a little bit so they had to earn that 10-game win streak to get in.

2:33:42You prop them up again, like I said, to the two close losses, and then everybody throws away what they looked like last week against Boston College. Boston College is atrocious. Stanford beat Boston College. They are not a good football. Stanford's playing good football. Bill O 'Brien said they're showing up and fighting. You want to be negative, get the hell on out of here. Signs up. Signs up, we're playing football. I love Bill O 'Brien, but they're not a good outfit. As I said. Oh, that's what the guy asking a question said. Not a good outfit.

2:34:10Pat McAfee:The guy asking a question to Bill O 'Brien said, this sucks, basically. Bill O 'Brien said, I don't want to hear it. This is a real press conference. It happened yesterday, maybe two days ago.

2:34:21Darius Butler:Yeah, even worse if you go back to how Bill O 'Brien got there. Guy could have been the OCO of Ohio State last year, if I do remember correctly, or was that two years ago? But either way, I think it makes sense now why Jeff Halfley left B.C. because they got no resources up there.

2:34:37Pat McAfee:Well, Bill O 'Brien set his son's up and we're playing football. He's about sick of all the negative.

2:34:42Darius Butler:It's hockey season now for the B.C. Yeah, they're going to be in Afro's in four.

2:34:45Pat McAfee:We know they're going to be dangling around with their sticky mitts. We understand that that's going to happen. But yes, you're talking about Notre Dame's big time wins. They're going to have to put on a show. I think Tone said at the beginning of the year he said um if notre dame wins every game by 30 like they did last year and they just kind of do that for the rest of the year they're definitely going to get in the college football playoff i assume they were already out because they had so many wins but texas a &m being who they are obviously is a big deal for them like i think that's a big deal and then reese davis who is a very influential person in college football he speaks to the committee he's one of the only people that get to do that he hosts college game day he said notre Notre Dame eye test top five team in America.

2:35:23Pat McAfee:And it's like, maybe. And maybe just the two losses are completely tough luck almost because everybody talks about the Notre Dame schedule. Like Notre Dame is able to schedule whoever they want. They're independent. They're going to be on national TV. They got enough money. They're able to kind of do what they want. They don't have a conference championship. They have it easy when it comes to that. It's like they scheduled some tough ones early. They lost them both. And then the national narrative for the first time was like, Notre Dame is done. So it's like a very different Notre Dame season as opposed to like one where they're kind of, who are they playing?

2:35:50Pat McAfee:Who have they played? Who have they played? Now it's like, well, they've actually played top three teams. Top three team. Lost them close. Very close. And they've dominated everybody else. They're going to get in, we all assume. Yeah. It's Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame.

2:36:02Darius Butler:They should just say at the start of the year, no matter what, Notre Dame, you lose two or less, you're auto-bid.

2:36:07Pat McAfee:That should be a part of the rules. Because remember, the SEC and the Big Ten allegedly are like, hey, if you make the championship game, you should be automatically in. So that's what I think was being talked about. because, you know, the big angle started to become, well, these guys aren't going to want to play in championship games because it's another loss. Like, what is a championship game? A championship game means nothing because these teams don't care because they just don't want to get there because they don't want to lose. And it's like, well, if you made an automatic bid for both finalists of the championships, then it's a whole different conversation.

2:36:35Pat McAfee:We're not there yet. You know, we're not there yet. But whenever we get there, maybe it is like finalists for the championship games get in and Notre Dame, if they have less than two losses, they also get a spot. all the other spots up for grabs. All the other spots up for grabs. There's a chance that they actually do that, Ty. Yeah, I mean, but it's Notre Dame, okay? So we can say all this kind of stuff. It's one of the most powerful and biggest and most beloved institutions in the United States. So if they're even on the cusp of potentially getting in, they're going to say, hey, you know, would you rather see Notre Dame or Memphis in the playoff?

2:37:13Pat McAfee:Well, Memphis is obviously a group of five. No, yeah, I get it. They got their own slot. There's no reason for you to attack. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You know, if Notre Dame is even close to getting in. You think that committee is going to say? Got a lot of old white people on that committee. How many of those guys are Catholics? You think they're? I don't know. I don't know. Amen. Padre. Yeah. Amen. And Fille. And Fille. Espiritu Santo. Espiritu Santo. Amen. Amen. Let's get Notre Dame in this thing. Now, that is always the problem. That's probably Baptist. That's what everybody thinks is actually happening.

2:37:46Pat McAfee:Okay, that's what everybody's thinking actually happening. And there's a chance anytime humans are involved, there is a little bit of bias. Now, let's talk about bias. Let's talk about trust. D-Bud has a question for you, Steve.

2:37:56AQ Shipley:Yeah, I want to ask you, Steve, maybe even you, Tony, the eye test. Which one of these quarterbacks, if you pop up, which one of these quarterbacks do you trust the most down the stretch? Ooh. Mendoza, Moore. It's Mendoza. Simpson. Simpson.

2:38:14Darius Butler:Sayin'. Sayin'. Reid. Bachmar. Donner. Gronowski. Thank you. He's not on air. He should be. He's lingering, though. Lingering. Yeah. Gronowski's outside of the graphic. I mean, I look at all the toys that each quarterback has to play with, and they all have awesome, awesome deals where, you know, saying continually, you know, you see them open up the playbook more and more and more throws down the field. Marcel Reid, you know, doing more with his legs. in that win the last time we saw him against LSU. Simpson's a guy that's probably responded the best to adversity, knowing what Florida State looked like, but then ramping it up.

2:38:56And I thought him being the reason, third down, fourth down conversions, at Missouri, at Georgia, jumping them early, I would probably trust Simpson because I've seen him face adversity and I know what I'm getting. But, I mean, the guy we're not even talking about in Mendoza, I'm not sure what Surratt's going to do. Is he going to be out a couple weeks? Indiana sounds like they got pretty banged up, so I'm interested to see how many guys they have. I'm not saying they're going to blow it at Penn State, but right now when you're saying with all things aligned, I would look at Tyson.

2:39:30Pat McAfee:What are we even saying in these words? Okay, blow it and all this other stuff. Let's not put that on the universe. Obviously, Indiana's having a miraculous run. Fernando Mendoza, an absolute stud, but you're right. The injury is certainly something. And, A.J., let's talk about Julian Sane. He's the odds-on favorite to win the Heisman. Nobody really talking about him strictly because he has so much talent or because you guys haven't played anybody. Not your fault, but you seemingly haven't played anybody, AJ. Yeah, I mean, they're in a tough spot. They are so good that no matter who they play, they're going to say, oh, this team sucks anyway.

2:39:57Like Penn State started out, weren't they number one in the country preseason? I understand things happen, but yeah, they're taking care of business. And this is the first Ohio State game I went to in person this year, the Penn State game, and watching. We got a little pregame field pass with my kids, and then they usher you up and get you off the field. You can't sit there and watch the game there. And I hung around and watched like the first couple drives. And Julian saying the ball, man, I'll tell you what, Pat, you know, when we see a guy throw a ball in person, you can kind of tell early.

2:40:25And that dude, he's got it. Like he, I know he's throwing to some studs, but this dude, he has the moxie, how he carries himself, how he walks through the huddle, how everything about him. Like he, he seems like he's been starting for 10 years.

2:40:36Pat McAfee:What year is this for him? Second year, I believe, right?

2:40:39Darius Butler:Yeah, red shirt freshman, right?

2:40:40Pat McAfee:So he's got another year at least. That's great news for Ryan Day and obviously the entire offense. But he's not getting much chatter at all. And I love that Coach Saban said he was at Alabama and the coach had him playing scout team for an entire year. What a dumbass or something like that. It's like he has been high on saying. Coach Saban has been high on saying since like before the Texas-Ohio State game. And now he's odds-on favorite to win the Heisman. Feels like the sportsbooks are high on him. We need an Ohio State primetime match. We need a massive game. And, A.J., to your point, Penn State was supposed to be that.

2:41:18Pat McAfee:They're not. It's like every game is supposed to be, and then it's not. But there's teams that get caught by these teams, though, and Ohio State has not. They've maintained their dominance, and that defense is outrageous, A.J. Hawk. That's the thing I wanted to ask Stanford. Steve, we asked, like, hey, which quarterback do you trust or pass the eye test? Which defense do you trust the most, Stanford, Steve, when you look at those top four to six teams? Yeah, I've thought about this a lot, watching these teams, AJ. And to me, Ohio State plays better team defense. Indiana has better difference makers up front.

2:41:49But when you – I mean, you guys talked about Arvel Reese earlier. Like, I saw their first – or their last practice before the Texas game. I'm like, who the hell is number eight? Where's he been hiding? And then he's just gone crazy this year. I love the – obviously, you love the back-end styles, both of them. the speed they play with. So I trust Ohio State the most. I would just, if Indiana's in that conversation, I understand it, but they have more difference makers up front. But Fisher didn't play against Maryland. He's the quarterback of that defense. He really impressed me against Oregon. But overall, trust, I go with the Buckeyes.

2:42:25Pat McAfee:All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you so much for joining us. Oklahoma's defense also very, very good. They're right on the outside. If they're able to find their way in. and we're heading to Lubbock, Texas down there. BYU, Texas Tech. What should I be knowing? I've been hearing a lot about tortillas, and then tortillas, I guess, are kind of bands or something like that from the game, and obviously, I can't wait to get down there. I've heard we got some cowboy mentality down there. I am very, very lucky, Pat. I was there in Lubbock for the greatest night in the history of Lubbock, the Michael Crabtree catch against Texas.

2:43:01It's probably the best sporting event I've ever been to in my life. The place was absolutely insane. If you go back, it's Halloween weekend. The Batman movie with Heath Ledger had just come out. Everyone's dressed as the Joker. I mean, it was nuts. And they get the Crabtree catch. They rush the field like three times. Like when there's one second left in the game, Texas Tech has to kick off from, like, their five-yard line. And the field is just absolute madness. Like I said, the best atmosphere I've seen. So, supposedly, they're already camping out. Be ready for some stakes the size of your head.

2:43:44Yeah, I'm standing right there, like, the 10-yard line. You can see me. Oh, yeah. Oh, there he is.

2:43:49Pat McAfee:Not the other guy. It's the other guy. Absolute scene with what was – I think McConaughey went up to the press box because the sidelines were so crazy that night. But it was an all-timer. It is – you want to talk about West Texas, man. It's all in Lubbock. And now with the money, I'm hearing Coach McGuire said you won't even recognize it with the facilities and all that. So I can't wait. Like I said, steaks for the size of your head. I can't wait to eat one Friday night and Thursday night. I like big old meat. I like big old meat, especially, you know, you get a little cowboy cut, on that thing.

2:44:25A little bit of

2:44:26Pat McAfee:savory sauce on that thing down there. And you got one big old hat. You walk in there, you hang that son of a bitch on the wall because we like to show respect to the place that we are. You got them boots on, you got a buckle on, and by God, we're tucking that son of a bitch in, and we're going and buttoning that all the way up. Maybe pops. Definitely got a little bit of inseam on this thing right here. Definitely a little inseam to pop that thing up too if we want it. I can't wait to get down there. You already got the fit picked up? In my mind, I see what it looks like or could it look like.

2:44:54Wear some pearl snaps. Some pearl snaps on your shirt. So, certainly a possibility. But on that note, there's a gentleman.

2:45:04Pat McAfee:I don't know if I should say his name or not. But he was some town. What's that, like the person who coordinates what events come into town and stuff like that? It's like a town organizer. Community organizer? Something along those lines. It was a voted in something. Okay. This guy, whenever we went down to Texas for something, he was there. He delivered me a cowboy hat. My name is blah, blah, blah. They call me the wolf. Have you ever seen anything like that? I get things done, yada, yada, yada. Welcome to Texas. Sick cowboy hat, this guy. Sick. He had boots on, obviously, the entire thing. I'm like, hell yes.

2:45:37I wore that thing on game day.

2:45:38Pat McAfee:That is the, I believe it's the, it was either the tan one or the black one. I forget which one it was. But it was the first time I wore one. It was from this man. This man is a Texas Tech grad. So he has reached out and been like, hey, listen, we got ideas here. So I think I'm going to be pretty suited and booted. Let's go. We got a lot of belt buckles being offered up. Obviously, they earn them down there. I just buy them, so it's a little bit different. But they are a sweet accessory to add to yourself. So I think it should be a pretty country-ass Saturday. I mean, they're camping. Yeah, we talk about them camping out.

2:46:07Pat McAfee:They've got, like, tents lined up outside the stadium, I think, for them to get in there, set a Mario Kart outside. I mean, they are –

2:46:14Darius Butler:They're kids taking shifts.

2:46:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, garden tents and spots to get in there. It's like the place is outrageous. And they got a huge one against BYU. you, I cannot wait to get down there. Literally, Graham Harrell, what a stud. I heard you say his name. He's awesome. Great throw. Great throw. Great caddies stay in bounds on that. It's kind of like that Ryan Williams from the other day. Yeah, very similar. You're right. Blake Gideon dropped an interception right before that, too. See, Toddy, brother. I always come back and bite you. Catch the ones they throw you. Alright, Steve, we appreciate the hell out of you. You look awesome, ladies and gentlemen.

2:46:46Pat McAfee:Appreciate you guys. Hey, thank you for wearing a WVU. We won. Huge win. Monster win. Now we're favorite this week. Come on. Is the hard edge back? I think so. I'm thinking, yeah. Scotty Fox, quarterback, yeah. I'm thinking we got a guy. The moxie through the roof. Hard edge real. And these guys have all had to battle through. One training camp with Rich Rod. One summer conditioning. And hard times this season. So the guys that are still playing and still there, I think are a bit hardened. I think we have kind of maybe got to the point where it's like a culture is close. And then obviously we're going to have to add in in the offseason, but it's like maybe Rich Rod is able to find a little something out of these boys.

2:47:30Pat McAfee:Yeah. Maybe he is able to find a little something out there. And in the Big 12 now, I know Texas Tech is obviously going to be good. BYU is going to be good forever. Utah is the real deal. But Mount Neera started climbing all of a sudden. There's a little bit of an East Coast fistfight coming to town. They're coming straight out of mountains with a hard edge and an attitude. and hopefully a lot more boosters going forward. We need more. Steve, why don't you come give some money to West Virginia Mountiers?

2:48:03Darius Butler:Can the Jerry West estate help out maybe?

2:48:07Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think they do. Maybe they do, though. Maybe they do. Johnny West, his son, his boy played basketball. Yes. He was awesome. Johnny West was a great guy. But, yeah, if you run into anybody with a lot of money, just ask them if they want to pick up the West Virginia Mountaineers. That's what I'm doing right now at this moment. Yeah, and we're going to West Texas. There's a lot of oil money down there. Maybe they like West Virginia. Yeah, I fear that, yeah, with us being in a Big 12 with them. I need to find a natural gas way. Exactly. I need to maybe get my own rig to kind of dive down there and get natural gas.

2:48:45Pat McAfee:Maybe we're the West Virginia Gas Mountaineers. You know what I mean? Maybe we get in there. I need to talk to Jerry Jones to find that shit. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, Stanford State. Yeah, Steve! AJ, I don't know if we've gotten your full take on Jerry Jones thinking that he's going to make$100 billion, so what are we talking about football for right now? What are we talking about football for? What we can't do? We have technology now. He can still go manage$100 billion possible, I guess, well that he's trying to pump out and then still work on the Cowboys. Look, he's still able to make big deals, bring some players in.

2:49:13Pat McAfee:That's right. He's the one on the phones making all these trades as well. He is the general manager for the Dallas Cowboys, and we certainly love the way he's just come out and said, yeah, if it's boring, I'll fucking start up. Just why not? If not me, then who? We're going to talk about the Cowboys, but there's a$100 billion present value with gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with Dallas Cowboys. I woke up this morning. I got sent a memo. I fucking printed it out. I read it. He said$100 billion. Whose$100 billion is that? That could be yours, Mr.

2:49:44Jones. All we got to do is get three miles down. It's going to be tough to do, but if you give us about a billion dollars, we'll be able to get$100 billion. Is this in about a week or about a month?

2:49:52Pat McAfee:Probably like a year, sir. Well, let's get some shovels. Let's get this thing started. And that's Jerry Jones in a nutshell. He's always going to go for it. He goes big. Him getting Quentin Williams feels like he says he's going big. I got one trade already done. That was the Logan Wilson one. I might have another one. I might have another one. Quentin comes in there. You know, he's always going to be the topic. Are they ever going to be able to win? And maybe they need to make play for an offensive line. Because if you have a great offensive line, you have a great football team. And ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in the trenches with AQ Shipley for our top five performing offensive lines out of week nine.

2:50:22Pat McAfee:Who's number five, AQ?

2:50:24Darius Butler:San Francisco 49ers. Wow. Yeah, you can't control who you play, obviously. Sorry, Bruce. They're not very good on defense right now, and everybody's running all over them. Let's look at this backside combo, though. You got Jake Brendo out with an injury. Insert Matt Hennessey, former Atlanta Falcon. Gets to climb. Use check out in space. Trent Williams doing his thing. Christian McCaffrey runs through a big, gating hole. We love those. If you go back to the beginning real quick, Foxy, remember a couple weeks ago we had Juszczyk as a tilt? He faked it, went this way. Now we gain plus one on this toss.

2:50:59Darius Butler:Crack toss gains leverage on the defense. Love the way they ran that.

2:51:03Pat McAfee:Is Juszczyk still the indicator on where everything's going? Is that what you're finding?

2:51:06Darius Butler:He always is, but the thing that they're doing differently now is now they're starting to send them one way and bring them back. So you can't get full tells. It's pretty cool what they're doing.

2:51:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me every time that's Juszczyk football. It seems like he is always going right where the play is going, and it's right off his ass, and it always works. Congrats to him putting together maybe one of the greatest fullback resumes in the history of ball. Who's the number four performing offensive line of Week 9? Wow, the L.A. Rams. L.A. Rams. Wow, congrats to them.

2:51:35Darius Butler:Yeah, they did a great job. They ran for almost 170 yards this week between Kyron Williams and Blake Corum. Here you've got Blake Corum. Check this out. You call the perfect play into a slanting defense. Everybody slants. Cool. All you got to do is seal the edge. Look at Parkinson on Demario Davis at the second level. Might be a hold, but got away from it or got away with it there. And then look at Puka Nakua getting this thing started. Outside wide zone. I mean, anybody can run through that hole, boys.

2:51:57Pat McAfee:Puka Nakua giving it up for the boys. Obviously love everything about it. Sean McVay always has a good run game. You know, there was that one year they had a potential ass offensive line. They address it and move on. He respects the position, I believe.

2:52:08Darius Butler:The thing I love about what he's done this year, if you go back to 16, 17, when he first got there, he was ahead of the game. He was doing all the shifts in motion. They were going jet motion, and they were just pushing to spots. This year, they went back to simplicity. They are doing every single thing the same way, same formation, and they are downhill at you and running the zone.

2:52:27Pat McAfee:Oh, I just saw the number three performing offensive line out of week nine. Holy hell, that's a good football team.

2:52:32Darius Butler:That's a good football team. Good football team, the Carolina Panthers. Wow, congrats with that big win. If we can pause this real quick, I'm just going to set this up. This was a pivotal play in the game, right? This is the play that got them into field goal range to win the game. And if you look at Bryce Young and you look at Rico Dowdle, they notice that Micah Parsons is standing up, Cooper's standing up. See him talking? They're basically bluffing, making it think like, hey, we're going to run a pass right here, and you got him in pass protection. And then they seal it off. They hand it off.

2:53:01Darius Butler:You get man coverage on the back end. Brings the safety out of the box. everybody seals it off, and you get the huge run right there.

2:53:07Pat McAfee:First on, win the game, set them up, obviously, for the field goal. Bluffing the Green Bay Packers defensive front, everybody's saying we're going to go for a pass, and instead, Dowdle shows incredible patience. AJ, this Dowdle fellow, Rico, is awesome to watch. Now, he can't be pumping and gyrating after he scores touchdowns. He's learned that lesson, I guess. We all have that some refs just ain't going to have any pumps. I'm a no-pump ref. You can have two pumps maybe with other refs. you are no pump territory with me on the call Rico learned that and also I think we're all learning he's a dog AJ Hawk no he's awesome and credit Bryce Young yeah he is very like demonstrative when he's going over and pointing and bluffing this whole situation so hopefully he continues to do that as the year goes but yeah look at that like all right come on what I guess he would get you thinking though if you're a mic and you're as well is he is he messing with me like this is this kind of weird I haven't seen him do this a whole lot like yeah that's that's the thing man Bryce Young is growing that's funny to think about like the respect the defense has for you is how they're going to respond to that okay if they think you would just give that away like that and that loud and that easy like oh this guy what a dipshit and then he can get work if that was somebody else who's like an established i'm not saying uh bryce young isn't going to become that guy but if that is like payton or tom or drew even who just signed a deal to call games for fox drew breeze is going to be in the booth alongside adam amin friend of the program good luck to him going in there we all assume that this is the replacement by fox for the situation that happened with Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis.

2:54:35Pat McAfee:But the fact that Bryce Young, you know, pulls it off at the stage in which he's at, it's almost like the perfect time for it because I don't think the defense thinks something is up immediately. Like if Peyton's doing that, everybody's like,

2:54:47AQ Shipley:Huge.

2:54:48Pat McAfee:Yep. Peyton, why would Peyton? There's no way he would be giving away that much.

2:54:52AQ Shipley:Bryce might be a guy, huh? He might be. That's next level stuff. And that situation right there was second and 10, top all game, less than a minute. So like if you do throw a pass incomplete, Now you got third and long, and then you maybe give Jordan Love and those guys an opportunity. So that's a good ball right there. That's winning football right there.

2:55:07Pat McAfee:Hey, Carolina Panthers are a good football team. It's a good football team. They are. That's a good football team. And Bryce Young, although he did have the lowest quarterback rating in the NFL this past week, he still got the win, did enough, did what he had to do. They're running it. Fooled him right there. They're running it.

2:55:23Darius Butler:They love Rico Dowdle down there. I've talked to guys in the building down there. Love Rico Dowdle. By the way, let me say this too. They're on their seventh offensive line combination. They continue to get hurt, and they continue to run for 150 yards every day. I would love Rico, too. Who's that O-line coach, AQ, do you know? Yeah, Harold Goodwin. He's my guy. He was my O-line coach nine of my 12 years.

2:55:42Pat McAfee:Goody and Joey Gilbert down there, the operation. Big deal. Great vibes. Oh, yeah. Those dudes, great vibes. Incredible vibes. Now, they've been coaching a long time, especially in the offensive line world. But, yeah, that's an incredible job. And I assume they're potentially the ones that are telling you, we love Rico. That's exactly right. everybody's life a lot better. Special culture they're potentially building. Speaking of a special culture, number two performing offensive line of week nine.

2:56:06Darius Butler:Yeah, the Buffalo Bills, and they were the most physical team in this game. It wasn't even close. Whenever you line up against the Kansas City Chiefs, you got to beat them up physically. They got guys across that can be bullies like Chris Jones. They took it to them, but this is their bread and butter play. Let me tell you, Jackson Hawes, their new tight end, and Reggie Gilliam, every bit is important to this offensive line. They love this play. Send the tight end back, get the full back up, get the seal by everybody else on the offensive line. Skinny through there. Unbelievable job.

2:56:32Pat McAfee:It's first and ten in the second quarter there. Got a couple blockers leading away. James Cook hooking for the Buffalo Bills. I like the physicality of this team. I like that they will fight you. The Buffalo Bills defense, what they did to Patrick Mahomes and then offensive line wise, we talk about Deion Dawkins, they will. They're going to have to, I think.

2:56:49Darius Butler:Oh, they're physical. Dawkins is unbelievable. David Edwards, incredible former Super Bowl winner with the LA Rams. McGovern's incredible at center. I mean, obviously, Spencer Brown's an absolute psychopath. He self-described, I think. We saw that a couple weeks ago. But their tight end and fullback are awesome. I mean, they've got a really good team. And on the other side of the ball, their defensive line's playing really well, too. They've got one of their guys back. I don't know how you pronounce his name. H-O-E-C-H-T. Height. Height. Okay, so he tears his Achilles in his first game back, which big loss for them because he was bringing some juice.

2:57:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Buffalo Beals back in it. You know, a buff of 6-2 right now, second in the AFC East behind the Patriots, who are 7-2. They've already had their bye week. How will they finish in? Wow. This is a massive one. The number one offensive line in week nine, the Chicago Bears. Congrats to the Bears. I guess high scoring affair, the Bears' offensive line had to be great.

2:57:47Darius Butler:If you turn on their film, there is bodies on the floor on every single play. And I love – you've got to give Ryan Poles a lot of credit. it. He went out and made some crazy moves this offseason. We're going to really bring in a bunch of new offensive linemen, and it has paid off. If you watch this, check out this. By the way, their left tackle, Braxton Jones, starts the season. He gets injured. They put this guy and this Canadian who was on the practice squad, Theo Benedict. You want to talk about a block? Let's watch this dude. Climb on the safety, run his ass to the fucking sideline, bury him into the fucking back.

2:58:17Darius Butler:That's illegal. How good is that? That's actually pretty awesome. I can't lie. Okay, so that's the left tackle. I don't want to be that defender, but that's great. AJ, so that's the left tackle, and I think the boys in the back got another clip of Darnell Wright. Let's take a look at this. Here he is to our left playing right tackle against Shamar Stewart, the first-round pick. Take his ass and bury him on the other side. Jeez, Louise, the Bears are burying these Bengals' bodies deep into the dirt. That's it.

2:58:45Pat McAfee:I thought I was trying to think of another B word, but they're for real, huh? The monsters of the midway are actually the monsters of the midway.

2:58:51Darius Butler:Who does that remind you of? that's the Detroit Lions offensive line just beating you up. That's what Ben Johnson's bringing to this team.

2:58:57Pat McAfee:Wow, Ben Johnson's culture is settling in everywhere. Yeah, so you're saying that the offensive line for the Chicago Bears is going to be good for the rest of the year?

2:59:03Darius Butler:They're healthy. Dolman, the new center, unbelievable. The two tackles are playing great. They got Jonah Jackson at right, and obviously Tooney's an absolute monster. I mean, they look really good. Chicago Bears are the real deal, Ty. Good luck, Bob. Well, and Rutgers legend Kyle Monunga getting his first start and running for 170 yards, too. I mean, I've been saying it all year. You hear everything from Ben Johnson. Don't love it. You watch him play. Don't love it. But we'll see. You know, I mean, you can't play the Bengals every week. Jeez. Bengals are an interesting spot. They really are. They didn't trade trade.

2:59:37They didn't trade? No. They didn't do anything? Nope. They didn't do anything. I think we're sticking with our guys. Yeah, we like our guys.

2:59:44Pat McAfee:Let's go ahead and try to get this thing figured out. What an interesting time for them and what an interesting time for the Chicago Bears. They have the number one offensive line in the trenches with AQ Shipley as the Niners, Rams, Panthers, and the Buffalo Beals are the rest of the top five. Congrats to you, boys. Way to go. Way to battle. If your offensive line's good, your team's good. So that's what we've learned from this particular segment. So whenever you see the Carolina Panthers show up at 3, it's like, Carolina Panthers? It's a good football team. This week. Nah, it's a good football team.

3:00:13It's every week. You're right.

3:00:14Darius Butler:It is week to week. It's week to week.

3:00:16Pat McAfee:Connor maybe thought you forgot about a team maybe.

3:00:19Darius Butler:Yeah. They couldn't run it. They didn't run it very well. Yeah, definitely not the Patriots. They fucking stink at blocking right now. They've given up like eight sacks. And I don't know, maybe 11 sacks actually. They're close though. They're close though. They are close.

3:00:32Pat McAfee:All right, let's get to some deeper ball in the defensive back world. Let's go secondary eyes through the eyes of everything DB. Good D, bad D with Darius J. Butler. Yes, sir.

3:00:44AQ Shipley:I talked about it on the offensive side. I think they won kind of the trade deadline, getting Sam Dard on Kubiak, another weapon with Rashid Shahid. And we know what this defense has been under Mike McDonald. Now, you're getting third and 17. That opens up the full playbook for what we love, some exotics here, some overload blitz. So if you run it back to the beginning, before the motion, the defense does a great job disguising here, maybe showing some type of single high. If you see the safety up top, I believe his last name is Okada. Is that how you pronounce it? You'll see him up top. Look, has his hips open like he's going to rotate to the middle of the field.

3:01:17AQ Shipley:And then post-snap, Witherspoon, a corner up there to the boundary, you'll see him blitz along with some other guys, and they'll drop out. And this will be a five-man pressure kind of umbrella fire zone. So he begins to be the flat defender, continues to sink, watching the quarterback and goes up, climbs the ladder, high points his ball and makes a phenomenal interception on the sideline. Got both feet in.

3:01:39Pat McAfee:Is that what it was just like on the offensive side? I mean, the Buffalo Bills offensive line on in the trenches, the Buffalo Bills defense on everything DB, good D, because of how physical they are and obviously making plays here. But were they just clearly the more physical team?

3:01:51AQ Shipley:Yes, and that's the mindset every week in NFL. You want to set the tone. You want to be the more physical team, especially when it's two teams that, you know, they're very familiar with each other. They know they're probably going to see each other again in the playoffs. So you want to kind of set that tone early in the season so that when you see them later, you know what's going to come. But you have some young – and they also, I think, lead the league in disguised defenses. And they have some moving parts on the back end. Seattle – sorry, Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo. So they disguise a lot of their coverages.

3:02:18AQ Shipley:Now it can be some holes and they can be susceptible to some things, but they play very well. And you never see Patrick Mahomes under – like he was like 15 for 34, I believe. You never see that stat line.

3:02:29Pat McAfee:I think going back to Texas Tech, that was the first time he was in college, I think. He was under 50%.

3:02:34AQ Shipley:And he came into this game where, you know, was he the favorite MVP? Like, he short as odds. So it was a great performance by that Buffalo Beals defense. Another great performance. This Jacksonville Jaguars defense, second in the NFL with interceptions. But I want you to watch the bottom of the screen. Cover two, flat defender. You got the tight end motioning out, so he's going to widen them and try to run this quick hitch route. Great job getting his width, staying down in that cobra-like demeanor, eyes back to Geno Smith, and then making a great break on the ball. This was a low-scoring game, so all of these turnovers, these interceptions matters.

3:03:09AQ Shipley:Great job out of DB getting the ball, finishing the catch once again. Unbelievable play.

3:03:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, Geno Smith, you know, tough with the Raiders. Obviously, this game goes to overtime, so every turnover, every play matters. The Raiders decide to go for two for the good of ball, but Jacksonville's seemingly a good football team, too. find a ways to win close games. Yeah, and their defense, have they been good all year?

3:03:32AQ Shipley:So the numbers, they aren't great numbers-wise, but like splash plays, havoc plays, like kind of how the Steelers were early on there getting wins, just creating a bunch of turnovers. And last season, they were bottom of the league and creating turnovers, so up until this point, second only behind the Chicago Bears when it comes to intercepting the ball.

3:03:49Pat McAfee:Okay, now it's time for some bad days. Uh-oh, some bad days.

3:03:52AQ Shipley:Bad old days. And unfortunately, we got to start down in Miami. I mean, Lamar Jackson, he returned, and Mark Andrews is eating. Now, we got Mark Andrews down here. He'll be circled. And he's going to run, if you pause it here, what's called like a mesh route. So you got two crossers. You got him coming from the right side, and you have Isaiah Likely kind of in a similar position on the opposite side of the formation. And they're basically going to try to run their defenders into each other. Now, usually one guy should be high, one guy should be low. But Mark Andrews does a great job here of faking the pick and then just climbing and the defender on him, if you run it back again, just watch.

3:04:29AQ Shipley:So our technique here, pause it right here. So you're coached up to a tailpipe right here. That's what we call it. Get in the tailpipe. Get in the tailpipe, D-Bus. So actually, go ahead. Explain it, AJ, with a tailpipe technique. I don't know. But you said get in the tailpipe, exactly what we mean. You guys are diving in guys' tailpipes. So just tell us what that means. You get right up into his tailpipe, so then you cannot get picked and you're directly behind him. So if he runs into something, like you're using his body as protection, and you're sticking right on him. And then when you clear the pick, you can hopefully undercut him and maybe get a pick or, you know, PBU.

3:04:58Pat McAfee:Okay, so the tailpipe is you're on the bumper. Yeah, exactly. You're on the bumper there. Directly behind him. If you're inside of him, you're getting picked.

3:05:06AQ Shipley:You hit somebody, I hit somebody. Exactly. Directly behind him. But right, I mean, right before contact, if you run it back one more time from this wide copy, you can probably see it from the replay as well, Mark Andrews kind of takes like a little stab with his left foot and then immediately climbs. And I think this was designed because you had a free hitter. You had a free hitter in the pocket right up in Lamar Jackson's face. But Jackson continues to kind of sink back, and they just make an accurate throw on his back foot. But great play design, great execution from Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews there.

3:05:34Pat McAfee:So much chaos right there. So much trust out of Mark Andrews, too. Yeah. Because he's just running looking back. There's another guy right in front of him that he could obviously get clipped. It's just insanity whenever it all times up perfectly. And, Gumpy, let's talk about the Dolphins' defense here. The boys are taking care of each other. The Ravens don't even have to do anything.

3:05:51Darius Butler:Yeah, it was a rough night for Dante Trader. He's a fifth-rounder rookie out of Maryland. He's been very good all year, though. This was just an off night. He's also a very good lacrosse player, too. Oh, wow. He's actually a dog. He's been one of our best secondary players all year. Okay, we like him. Good young players.

3:06:06AQ Shipley:For sure. Learning moment for sure. And then Puka Nakua, welcome back. You'll see him. One of the things about 12 is hard to double him or even scheme him how you're going to take him out of the game because you never know at the snap of the ball where he's going to be. Pause right here. So he's kind of like an offset fullback right now when the ball is snapped. Stafford's going to do a good job, play action, and then this is just an absolute die. I think it's pretty good coverage down the field. You can't ask for much better coverage, but you couldn't run down there and place this ball between the one and the two better than Matt Stafford did here from the pocket.

3:06:38AQ Shipley:It's just unbelievable accuracy, timing, and trust from Matt Stafford and Puka Nakul. So I wouldn't even – this is technically bad defense, but I just had to show big, awesome love for being back out there and showing back up.

3:06:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, and obviously hitting the pylon counts as a body part, I do believe. So that's two contact. Stafford's been doing this for so long, AJ. I know. And look at the time he has too. Credit to this O-line because this is kind of a late developing route downfield like this. But, man, you couldn't throw this any better. This is beautiful. How many times you played against Stafford? A lot? A bunch, yeah. He came into the league in what, 08 or 09? 09. I mean, yeah, I don't know, probably six, seven years, twice a year.

3:07:17AQ Shipley:So good. Damn. He was the clear-cut number one pick for a reason. And something that Calvin Johnson Megatron said earlier is like, you know, it's not just fastballs. You can see that the game has slowed down a ton from him. He's seen defenses change a bunch. You've seen him do it with different offenses. But he's just – his arm talent, like he can make every throw. You see the look-off throws every other week. Like he's playing quarterback at a high, high level right now.

3:07:42Pat McAfee:So not necessarily bad D, just grade O, but figure it out, D.

3:07:46AQ Shipley:Now, do we have another bad D? Now, that was grade O and good D, but this is as bad as it gets. 41.

3:07:54Pat McAfee:Oh, is this Hall of Fame nom?

3:07:56AQ Shipley:42, right. This is a half nom. Wow. Bad D, half nom. I mean, anytime you got 83 points with 25 seconds left from the club, it was a bad D on both ends. But this is tough. I don't know what the Bengals, what the plan was here coverage-wise. It's 25 seconds left in the game. You don't want to give that team the opportunity to get an easy catch and get in the field goal range and set up for a game with a field goal. But they just say, you know what, fuck it. We'll just let the guys score right here. Now, we see this week in and week out. You got to wrap these guys up. I don't care how long you play.

3:08:32AQ Shipley:You can't tackle anybody in the National Football League with just a shoulder bump. You have to tackle these guys. You got to wrap him up. So for him to catch this ball and have two safeties right here with the opportunity to get him on the ground.

3:08:43Pat McAfee:Man, I didn't even think about it. Are they playing no moss here?

3:08:46AQ Shipley:No.

3:08:47Pat McAfee:Are you sure? They could be. Get the ball back to Joe Flacco. 83 points. Let's make sure we get the ball back. Is this no moss?

3:08:55AQ Shipley:This is usually the situation in defenses that I've been on where you're going to play. If you go back to the wide copy, you're going to play some type of sticky coverage, maybe even bring some pressure. but you don't want to give up easy completion. It looks like they're playing no moss. It looks terrible. It looks like they're playing no moss. It looks terrible. But, I mean, hell of a play by Colston Loveland, the rookie, making the biggest play of his career so far. And great job by the Bears sneaking out of there with a win.

3:09:21Pat McAfee:And congrats to Colston Loveland and all the good videos of him coming out after he scores a touchdown. It was a nice reminder, like, hey, this dude's awesome. Were they putting some bad videos out of him? Well, just when Tyler Warren was doing his thing. Oh, of course. All anybody was saying was, remember, this was the second draft I even said it a couple times because, like, we were going to probably take a tight end, and it's like it was chosen for us to take Tyler Warren. It's like this guy's the best player in football.

3:09:44AQ Shipley:So there's been a lot of that. They'll probably be compared to each other. I don't like that picture. They'll be compared to each other for a long, long time. But Loveland is a talented, very talented kid. Oh, is that? He's spitting out there? Put his mouthpiece in.

3:10:02Pat McAfee:Oh, the ref looks super cool. Yeah, the refs are incredible. We need to make sure that we get players into that reffing thing. We need to make sure we get back into that. Now, I don't think the refs were as asked this past weekend as maybe a weekend before that, but I'm certain we could find some cases. They just need to not be the story ever, and that's going to be tough, especially whenever humans are involved. For sure. We appreciate the hell out of you, D-Buck. You too, A. Kush. Thank you, boys.

3:10:31Darius Butler:Great time. Thank you.

3:10:32Pat McAfee:Great to see you, man.

3:10:33Darius Butler:Great to see you guys. AQ looks good, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. AJ, he's getting a little conscious. He's getting a little body conscious. He looks great, but AQ, I ran into a guy who said he is a, what do you call it, like wingmaker? What's your thing where you do in Arizona for the golf tournament, the big charity deal? Thunderbird. Thunderbird. He's a Thunderbird with you. Who is it? I forget his name, but yes, he's one of the... That helps a lot. Memorable guy. Michael Phelps. I forget. No, it wasn't Michael Phelps. Did you call him a wingmaker? I didn't know. I forgot the term of what they called that thing.

3:11:03Pat McAfee:A Thunderbird, but in your head it was Wing Maker. So I guess Bird maybe? I knew I probably wasn't right, but I thought that would jog his memory to what I was speaking of. And we got there. We got there. We got there immediately. But just the fact that your brain remembered it as Wind Maker. Wing. Wing. W-I-N-G. Wing Maker. What is the real term? Thunderbird. I mean, Thunderbirds. Wing. W-I-N-G. Like a wing of a bird. Yes, exactly. Kind of close. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That is my exact point. The fact that your brain remembered it as wing maker and it's Thunderbird is a beautiful depiction of how that thing works up there.

3:11:40Pat McAfee:You Thunderbird saved the city, though. Thank you for your service to Arizona. Thank you.

3:11:44Darius Butler:We donated over$20 million back to Phoenix this year.

3:11:46AQ Shipley:Thank you, wing makers. In one year?

3:11:49Darius Butler:One year.

3:11:49AQ Shipley:Speaking of wings, how big were those wings on a heavily hoax? I hate that I wasn't able to be here. I had so many questions. That was so good. Those things are platinum, bro. How many inches were there? How were they in real? They were 22 inches, apparently. 22 inches for his 22-inch biceps, obviously.

3:12:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, we looked up the average biceps, pythons, and boy, those 22, 23-inch pythons were gigantic. Yeah, about two times the size of the average human. Wow. You know, the untrained male, if you will. Did you expect Heavenly Hulkster to kind of be the breaking news guy for heaven, just as a whole? Like, all the names that Heavenly Hulkster was...

3:12:29AQ Shipley:He has some stories, I mean, just tossing it back and forth. Jackie Robinson, that was awesome. Number one, obviously. Honestly, I was surprised to see him with the wings, you know, and the halo. I thought that took more time, but, you know, with the St. Pete. St. Peter's a big-time Hulkamaniac, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm not shocked. But, yeah, that was awesome to watch.

3:12:51Darius Butler:He even predicted the game. That was the coolest part for me. I was watching the baseball game, and I was like, well, I know Will Smith. Like, why are we even watching this? We already know how it ends. Yeah, World Series winning home run, Will Smith, just like Heavenly Hulkster said. I mean, it was – Pretty good. Honestly, there's a chance Heavenly Hulkster – You might see him again. I don't know. It feels like we might have threaded the needle here to find – You might see him around.

3:13:15Pat McAfee:To kind of figure this whole thing out. What a run. I did see Real American Beer commented underneath and was like, Hell yeah, bro. Yeah, exactly. He is. He made it. All right, let's get the hell out of here. What a day. It's a nice Wednesday. Yeah. It was a great Wednesday, though. It's like hot. Is it hot there? It's warm. Is it? I don't know.

3:13:32Darius Butler:Unseasonably warm. Yeah, it's warm. It's like high 50s, I think. Yeah, 60. Beautiful. 64. Boom. That's beautiful. Oh, so we got to sit outside right now, probably. Boom. Tebow? Be careful. You say Tebow? There are a lot of bugs in there right now. I figured there might be. There's actually a wasp in a... Oh, yeah, that's right. Somebody got stung by a wasp. I had no idea that still happened in November. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. That's still taking place. Did you know those exist still? I did not. I thought, yeah, when do they usually die off or take on? Get out of here. No way. November they still survive.

3:14:06I had no idea. I seen one yesterday, and then that son of a bitch came back and did a sneak attack on somebody, and all of a sudden, oh my gosh, what was that? Stung in the finger. Wasp.

3:14:15Darius Butler:Or was a wasp? Wasp, yeah. Is there a wasp nest in there? Spray that sucker. No, I think this was just a solo act. Solo. Yeah, I think the wasp was all by itself. Hopefully. Yeah. The nest is in the walls, most likely. Yeah, usually. Most worker and male wasps, they die in the fall as temperatures drop. But the queen wasps, well, they survive the winter by hibernating and starting new colonies in the spring. Wasps also die from old age. These fuckers live to 12 to 22 days. What a waste of a life. That's it? No, that's a worker wasp. I guess it's too different because the worker wasp is the dog of the wasps.

3:14:51Plus, how long is a day in wasp years? Yeah, that's a good point. Great question. starvation predation or environmental hazards like pesticides I'll tell you what the pesticides really flipped all these fuckers on their head you think they tell each other like hey yo watch this shit go over there do you think like what do you think yeah

3:15:10Pat McAfee:I don't think so natural selection really how about birds don't you think birds have gotten dumber well what's that I know I mean I assume con man is still on the bird train technology has only gotten better so I assume

3:15:25AQ Shipley:birds have only gotten smarter.

3:15:26Darius Butler:Saw a lot of birds on, you know, telephone poles and wires on my drive home yesterday. An unruly amount. So much I almost got out of my car and took a photo. Charging up? I don't know. You think they're all strapped in? I mean, I'm not kidding. There was like 2 ,000 birds within a half mile. You think there was a surge, a power surge?

3:15:47Pat McAfee:I just, what's it about? I don't know. You tell me, what are these birds? They're flocking, huh? Do birds like to flock? Is that what they like to do? That's convenient. That's convenient. They all like to just stand on power cables. Hmm. Fascinating.

3:16:00Darius Butler:I mean, you've been seeing them flying in circles, like, together. It's crazy. Yeah, the birds. I'm just talking about birds nose-diving into cars. I don't know if they always used to do that. Birds flying into my windows, like, all the time. All the time. I'm like, how stupid are these fucking...

3:16:15Pat McAfee:He's got clean windows. He's got clean windows. Yeah, I guess. But also, I think maybe even dirty windows, these things will fly. They say they got bird brains, you know? That's obviously not a good thing. But shouldn't these things be talking to each other? Like, hey, don't fly into houses. Don't fly into cars and stuff. We're talking high speeds. These things are dead. I mean, they're hitting their heads, breaking their necks, exploding their skulls, and then falling. Blood everywhere. Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe they want to end it. They don't want to get eaten by a bigger bird. Well, maybe they need a little therapy bird somewhere to get out there and have them chirping a different tune.

3:16:47Legit.

3:16:47Pat McAfee:You know, we need to kind of figure it out. Big bird. I don't like having to explain it. Mackenzie, this bird, yeah, it's not supposed to fly into this thing. It's dead.

3:16:55AQ Shipley:Yeah. Oh, didn't the owl just fly into Shottie's house? He did say that, I believe. He stayed in the condo, he said. Hey, staircase, bro. Staircase. Yeah, owls are mean sons of bitches. You cannot do one of those things in your house. You remember the staircase? That was his defense, right? Yeah. Yeah, and I'll tell you what. That guy, he led a colorful life, if you find in that documentary.

3:17:19Pat McAfee:Yes, you do. We had the lawyer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you remember this? No. Have you ever seen the staircase?

3:17:27AQ Shipley:No. Guy in North Carolina. Wife ends up dead in his house. He's the only one there. Obviously, he gets accused of it. There's a lot of shenanigans. A lot of shenanigans in this entire thing. It's a crime doc. Inevitably, his defense was that an owl flew in, grabbed her by her skull, and she tripped down a staircase and died. Yeah. That was his defense. Did he defend himself? The lawyer defended him. He was the one. He was the one telling the entire story about how this was possible. Because these owls are fucking aggressive. Grabbed skulls. I think so, yeah. My memory serves me accurately. Grabbed her hair skull and then she tripped down staircase because of it or something.

3:18:09I'm going to watch this on the flight home. It's a hell of a story. I think it's like three or four part series.

3:18:15Pat McAfee:It was during the Tiger King had a run, then this had a run, then the staircase had a run. It was like one of those. Takes a few turns, AQ, that you might not be expecting.

3:18:24AQ Shipley:Perfect. Is he free? I don't want to spoil it. No, whoa, whoa. Can't spoil it. Just know that the lawyer that is representing him is the star of the show. He's pretty good. And he came with a program? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Reached out. What was his name?

3:18:40Darius Butler:That's the HBO version. They made a show out of it on AQ. That's a scripted one. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that's like the TV show. They're talking about the documentary on Netflix. On Netflix, I believe. Yeah, Netflix. But yeah, this thing did two different shows. That's when you know. That's when you know.

3:18:52Pat McAfee:It's a good story. And these owls, these things, watch your fucking...

3:18:56Darius Butler:If you're a hoo, hoo, hoo. You're dead. They take animals, too. It's not a hoo, it's a what. What's that? They take animals, too. They always say, hey, make sure your cats are locked up. Don't let them out back, or they're going to just disappear from an owl. Because they'll come down. See you later. They do a little owl talk. Can't their heads turn all the way? Yeah. The way they blink is weird. You learn a lot about Alice. 300 degrees, I believe. Almost all the way. Like these PTZs. Yeah. They get caught right at the end. All right. Wow. Pretty good show today. Staircase is worth it. It is. I'm on it.

3:19:30Yeah. I'm watching it today, too. What is the lawyer's name? David? David Rudolph. There it is. David Rudolph. What year was that? That had to have been... Man, was that before COVID? That might have been before COVID. Yeah, I think it was before COVID. It was great access. They were everywhere. Cameras were everywhere. And all the meetings he was having in the jail, cameras were allowed everywhere.

3:19:52Pat McAfee:Hey, David Rudolph, pretty good juice. We remembered your name since 2019. That's a pretty good little guy. You wait till you watch it. You'll be like, yeah, this guy is the guy. He's the guy. If I ever have anything, this is the guy. I would like to call this guy. He's smooth talker, this guy. He's got ideas. But also a lot of personality, a lot of charisma, A lot of that stuff. It's what you need in a store. A.Q., you want to try to throw a football into a hoop or what? Sure. You know, Penn State doesn't have a head coach yet. Oh. But maybe if you make this football into a hoop, they'll hire a coach and 25 random people will win$500.

3:20:30Boom.

3:20:30Pat McAfee:A.Q., all you got to do is do better than you've done over the last few weeks and you just got to put this ball, baby Duke, 2.0, into that hoop right over there. Now, there's steel net. You know, obviously chain link net out there. So if it goes through, it's going to sound cool. But maybe you should try to put a little bit of arc on this one. You've been kind of attacking it. Todd, do you have anything to say to AQ before he attempts the impossible? I do. Stop messing around, AQ. Put this thing in the bucket and then, you know, celebrate as Billy Napier, his name, the new head coach of Penn State.

3:20:58That's possible.

3:20:59Pat McAfee:I mean, who knows right now with the coaching options that are out there. D-Butt has some words of encouragement for you, AQ.

3:21:04AQ Shipley:Just step into it, let it rip. You saw Jacoby Brissett do it. Just do exactly what Jacoby did.

3:21:08Pat McAfee:A.J. Hawk said, you know what, A.Q., maybe you do look like Jacoby Brissett. Maybe you are able to make it. His final note to you before you attempt the impossible A.Q. is this. Yeah, A.Q., I think you remember, isn't it A.Q. who does very well when he gets a snap and he kind of takes a drop, like not when you're static. You need to be moving because you're an athlete. We know that. We used to drop step, dunk on old buddy, whatever his name was back in high school. He didn't dunk on Nate Harnham. He did. He did not dunk on Nate Harnham. He dunked on his fat ass. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, big boned and big bellied.

3:21:40Oh, yeah. And big. That, too. He's like Chuck. Oh, here we go. 25 people,$500. All AQ's got to do is base. Oh. Give a cadence, you know? Yes.

3:21:48Pat McAfee:Oh, no cadence. Silent count. Short drop back. Pocket's going to collapse for sure. Misses the backboard. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. Oh. Ball's gone. Floor's lava. There's more balls here. Don't die, don't die. Okay. You don't have the runners on. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley, a Super Bowl champion player coach for their Tampa Bay Buccaneers, formerly of the Arizona Cardinals as well, the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Philadelphia Eagles, will attempt the impossible as Boston Connor gives him a message of positivity.

3:22:20Darius Butler:Remember when you would make your shots with the basketball, where you would just pick the ball up and throw it, but every time you lined it up, it would be the worst fucking shot imaginable? Just, yeah, just lean back and fucking spin that thing.

3:22:31Pat McAfee:Now that you're thinking about not thinking about it, why don't we think about making that shot? 25 people,$500, and maybe a hiring at Penn State for the good of the people. Fade away. Wanted a little sauce on that. That was close. That was good distance. Hey, you're in Saucer City. Add a little sauce.

3:22:48Darius Butler:That's right.

3:22:48Pat McAfee:Awesome sauce.

3:22:49Darius Butler:I like that. What's that, D-Bot? You think he's trying to miss? I don't know. That wasn't even close. I mean, you're giving away a lot of money on the weekends.

3:22:57Pat McAfee:Okay, see, we need integrity in the games. I'm trying. We've already got a little controversy brewing with U-Ball. Sure. Okay, maybe people mailing it in when they have certain teammates so they don't have to team with the person. Yeah, that's already been out. Who's doing that? No, I'm not saying anything. We all saw it. We don't like it. This can't become what it is. Guy throwing it through the backboard. It's like you're not even trying to make it. We know you're not even trying to make it. You got to lift your teammate up. You got to lift him up. And then accidentally not jumping to tip. Oh, missed it.

3:23:25Pat McAfee:Can't have it. Not in your ball. We'll sort that out. Just like Dana White said, we'll go to the FBI. Did you see his answer? his response, AJ? Oh, yeah. He was trying to set the, hey, enough with this shit. This cannot become what we are. Because he understands, as a man who is running the sports league, anytime integrity is questioned to sports league, you potentially lose sports league. Okay, completely. Like, if people don't think it's fair competition, people aren't interested. Let alone the gambling side of it, okay? That's a whole other animal. But whenever fans and people on teams, everything, It's just like you potentially lose everything.

3:24:04Pat McAfee:And as soon as Dana hears about this and this becomes a big storyline, I appreciate him saying that they were told there were some abnormal betting patterns on this one particular fight by IC360, which is their independent consultant for gambling tracking bets that he employs for the UFC to track to make sure there isn't any fuckery, basically is what he said. So then he calls and says to the camp, like, hey, we're hearing about this. What's going on? Fighter says, nope, we're not doing any of that. I can't wait to win. And then first round loss, rear naked choke with the way it looks. Dana says he calls the FBI immediately and says, hey, we're told that this was potentially a thing.

3:24:37Pat McAfee:We reach out. We talk to him. They said, absolutely not. We told him we heard about it. This happens. We think you should look into it. And then he say, talk to Cash. And then an entire fleet of FBI people were in his office chatting about it. So Dana White is coming out very loudly about like, hey, this fucking is not happening here. And if you want to roll the dice, there's a chance like actual jail time, hard time. This is going to ruin your life. So I think he's trying to play defense here for future situations as well as settle this particular one because he knows what's at stake here, AJ.

3:25:07Well, yeah, you can't let it linger. The longer you don't address or you don't say much about it, people just run with it, I think. And so the fact that he's trying to jump and get ahead of it, yeah, he knows. That's one of the only things I feel like that can bring a huge franchise like that down or at least take huge losses if people truly think this isn't legit. They're all manipulating everything.

3:25:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's not a good vibe that could potentially be in there, so he's trying to cut it off. Now, people will say, well, you like the game ball time. It's different, okay? And I know everybody, like, throws that in there together. It's like, got to keep that separated. It has to be for the good of sport. And I know it's easily accessible now for the common person, but the people that are performing the act just can't do it for the good of everything. Literally can't happen. Literally can't happen. Can't happen. Can't happen. Feels like there's a chance it happens, which I'm starting to worry about you both, too.

3:25:55You got guys throwing games. Kidding.

3:25:57AQ Shipley:Yeah, with the rat fuck insider. I'm sure they'll leak it out who's doing what. Is it the insider we hate or they're rats?

3:26:06Darius Butler:He'll probably have the information wrong, too.

3:26:08Pat McAfee:What do you mean?

3:26:09AQ Shipley:Aren't they kind of one and the same?

3:26:11Pat McAfee:Well, I definitely think that... Schultz and Shefty ain't the same, bro. Well, I think there's definitely levels to insiderness, and the U-ball insider seemingly has a monopoly on the entire thing. He does. True. He's really the only insider. But is he the problem or the person that's giving him the information? That's kind of the question. It's dog chase tail here. Morgan Wallen is the problem. Still. Oh, yeah, still. Still the problem. Tour tickets available, I think, coming up very soon. Coming to Indianapolis two nights.

3:26:42Darius Butler:They went on the two nights. Friday night went on sale today. My wife got in the queue. She was number 230 ,000 in the queue to get tickets for Friday night at Morgan Wallen. I don't think we're going to make it.

3:26:53Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, sounds like you're going to have to hope and a prayer that entire thing there, but hope and a prayer is not what the insider is operating off of in U-Ball. He's going off his facts, I do believe. Tony, you said that he's getting facts wrong. What do you mean by that?

3:27:07Darius Butler:I can't remember what the report was. I think it was that Bone left me for AQ to join the Fat Souls team or whatever. I was never partners with Bone. I was partners with AQ. So actually, AQ was the backstabber in this situation. I don't know why you threw fat so in. It doesn't say that in the tweet at all. I didn't come up with a team name. You guys did. Look at the graphic. That looks pretty official.

3:27:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, and AQ's in there. AQ, you're part of the problem, bro. There I am.

3:27:37Darius Butler:That's a pretty good technique right there. You see that? Yeah, behind the line, too. The foot looks like it's on the line. No, it's behind.

3:27:42Pat McAfee:He's got those shoes.

3:27:43Darius Butler:Sorry, you guys can play together. I found a different partner. A better partner.

3:27:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. So you were frustrated. Okay, so inside of guy right again. All right, why don't you come out here, Tone? Why don't you come out here, Tone? I didn't like the thought of people trying to lose so they didn't have to team up with somebody again. I'll tell you what. Yesterday, Foxy and I had another day of Foxy and I U-Ball, and there was a team of D-Butt and Tone that were together. I'll tell you what. That sparked a little something in us, knowing that we could maybe lose the title of these boys.

3:28:09JJ Watt:A hundred percent. We had to lock in and it ended up being the shortest game in U-Ball history, which goes to both teams because a lot of shots were made there.

3:28:16Pat McAfee:That's right. Three and a half minutes. We had four or six in the top of the first, Foxy and I.

3:28:21AQ Shipley:You guys are on fire. You guys are on fire. Foxy fought through some adversity, too. Yeah, he pulled his calf. Dude, yeah. What the hell was that? Foxy pulled his calf. My calf started cramping up in the middle of the game.

3:28:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, he almost had an Achilles here on U-Ball. That's a real deal. The insider would have gotten numbers if he would have been reporting that. Bruce, they're kind of questioning everything about what you do for U-Ball, brother. I don't like it at all. It's all right. You know, we'll just keep our nose to the ground looking for any stories. There was also a close call I've been waiting to update the people on where there was a, I guess, a vicious kick volley, you would describe, that almost decapitated Ty Schmidt. Yeah, and we will certainly have to get that story out today. You can follow along at Bruce Bryant, the official insider for U-Ball.

3:29:04Pat McAfee:And there was one of the funniest situations that I've ever been a part of. And I'll tell you what, people are getting after it, and U-Ball are trying to win some games. And all we're trying to do is celebrate the hell out of sports. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. AQ, anything to say here before we get out of here?

3:29:21Darius Butler:Full steam ahead in Arizona, boys. We know our guy for the next couple of weeks at least. Let's go.

3:29:27Pat McAfee:Okay, that's Arizona Cardinals super fan and color commentator A.K. Shipley talking about Jacoby Brissett being the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals who are currently 2-7, 3-6, something like that.

3:29:38Darius Butler:3-6, let's go.

3:29:39Pat McAfee:3-6, but have it all in front of them. Just like everybody does. Let's never forget that. Everything's always in front of us because it has to be. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three, two. Goodbye.