PMS 2.0 1461 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 13 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Marty Smith on the Lane Kiffin Situation, Kirk Herbstreit, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

18:21Pat McAfee:That's cool. There was a group of people that were like five years ago, four years into the lack of winning, I think. That started to – it feels now that it is at the biggest and most unified that it has been in the city of Pittsburgh. The Rooney family has to – You would think so. You would think so, and a lot of people are really, really mad at ownership as well. But you could trade Coach Tomlin, right? Wouldn't that be a thing? You could. There was a report that what an older, sorry, I don't know who reported it. I apologize. I saw the headline. There's potential coach conversation, fresh new start things.

18:51Adam Schefter:Jake Wazer, sir? No, I was thinking that about football. Jake Wazer. Yeah, someone reported that there's an elder coach in the league who might be looking for change. But anyways, Baltimore and Pittsburgh are tied currently for the lead in the AFC North. And every friend, fan that I've talked to is like, I wish we just would lose out if it means change rather than like, hey, we're in the division fight. Nobody cares about that anymore.

19:11Pat McAfee:That's a shame. Yeah. It's wild. It ain't going on a run, though, boys. That's right. Hey, good luck. Did you start going to meetings? Yep. Start going to meetings. Now you need to go in and not out whenever I say, huh, hey, hey.

19:22Adam Schefter:I thought he said he was at the meeting. That's what I thought I heard. I know they were on the wrong page as far as the check, but I thought he said everybody shows up to the meetings. Hmm.

19:33Pat McAfee:Oh, you're saying the way he delivered it was not condescendingly asking if everybody would start showing up to the meetings. You're saying, he was saying, everybody showed up to the meetings, that he still doesn't understand what the Chats are.

19:44Adam Schefter:Yeah, and we've had conversations for years about, you know, how Aaron Rodgers always changes. Peyton, Drew Brees, Brady, like, those are always moving parts. But maybe I misheard it. Run it. When there's film sessions, everybody shows up. And when I check through a route, I do the right route. You know? like John and I just weren't on the same page I checked to his in breaker and he ran out breaker John is a true professional so I'm sure he's you know he's sick sick about that but you know I threw a ball I thought was going to get hit by the wind and it was four yards over Roman so I got to make that throw but you know We have our meetings every week.

20:37We have other opportunities outside of the facility. And look forward to seeing all the boys there.

20:44Pat McAfee:Okay, so he was asked how he fixed the chemistry. He said, well, when there's meetings, everybody shows up. Interesting.

20:51Adam Schefter:He does look cool, though. Yeah, he looks like a Pittsburgh still quarterback.

20:57Pat McAfee:I thought he was done. Six and six. I thought he was done with that wrist, three fractures, the whole thing. He goes, lands on his face. Everything's busted. I assumed he hurt this one again. I assumed he somehow hurt this one again or whatever the case is. Then he comes back, bandaged up. Still taking the thing off, by the way, between everyone. He is, and I think nobody talks about it, he is old school tough guy quarterback. Oh, yeah. That is how he views the position. Have to. He even likes taking hits, I think. That is a part of the entire thing. And he's been very anti any of the rules. So him bouncing back as a 40-plus-year-old after having Bosa explode through his back and then dump him on his face.

21:34Pat McAfee:and then the worst possible outcome happened. I mean, that shows a lot of grit. It does. And Pittsburgh Steelers fans, appreciate the grit. Need to get some wins. We're done with it. All right, let's go to number four headline from the NFL Sunday today. Ten! Ten! Two teams with ten wins. I love that. That's incredible. And they're both in the AFC con, man. The Denver Broncos, who are almost everybody's kind of Lombardi babies coming into this particular season with that defense, everybody returning, They might have the best defensive player on earth in Sertan. Well, he wasn't even playing for a while.

22:06Pat McAfee:They were winning. He was back doing the whole strap-up on everybody. They're fantastic. And Bo Nix and Sean Payton seemingly get the job done whenever they have to. A lot of close games. A lot of close games. The stats coming out about them being in close games, one-score games. I think they have the most one-score dubs. They have the most three points or fewer wins. They have the most this point. Like, they are the close-game kings right now. Is that because their defense is so dominant and gets great stops at the right time? is because Bo Nix, Sean Payton, and the boys on the offensive side are so resilient and kind of mentally tough.

22:35Pat McAfee:They're able to get the job done. Who cares? They got 10 wins. The other team, Patriots tonight taking on the Giants, looking for number 11, both in the AFC. What does that tell you, Con Man? It really just tells you that the top is very top-heavy, if you will. The Broncos, yes, they're close games, but they win. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Bo Nix, he's coming alive. He beats the Chiefs, goes on the bye, and then he throws for 320 on Monday Night Football. And, yes, it's the Commanders. You can say, well, they shouldn't be barely beating the Commanders in overtime. Marcus Mariota is a hell of a quarterback.

23:07I mean, we saw that last night. He led them down when he needed to. They had a third and 15 maybe, and they somehow got the first down. Terry McLaurin being back for them is massive. That's a fourth and goal. Absolute dot if you watch the replay too. Almost gets the flighted. Perfect rub route. They almost have it here, but Nick Benito. Nope, that's a touchdown. Yeah, and the Nick Benito two-point conversion, he stops. And this is exactly why the Broncos are going to be in it at the end. You know, we talk about the 10 wins in Bo Nix, and people want to throw shade on them and stuff. Their defense is good enough to win them a Super Bowl.

23:42I mean, Benito and Cooper off the edge, Moss and Sertain in the back end, and then Alex Singleton, probably one of the better linebacker plays from the weekend, was Alex Singleton hauling ass back to break up a middle shot to Zach Hurts down the middle. I believe it was a third and ten. But they're fantastic in their own line. That's the biggest thing for me. Their own line is so solid. They can run the ball and beat you. They can pass block and beat you. It's one of those things that they're a team that can beat you in any way on the offense and defensive side. Ten and two, nine straight victories.

24:18There was a stat. Bo Nix, Drake May, and Caleb Williams from that draft class in the last nine weeks are a combined 26-1, which is ridiculous. But, I mean, then tonight with Drake May. I mean, it's one of those things where you kind of get to see the future in primetime. We had it last night, and now we have it again. The Patriots looking to become the first team with 11 wins on the season there without their starting left tackle, Will Campbell, and starting left guard, Jared Wilson. So that will be the matchup to watch. You know, Brian Burns off the edge. Thibodeau out for the Giants, which is big.

24:51But Dexter Lawrence in the middle, too. It's going to be a hell of a game. It's incredible to see that the young AFC teams are having this much success, two-game lead in the one and two seeds, but it's just amazing to be one of those teams there.

25:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, you talk about the young quarterbacks too. Bo Nix obviously been in the same system here for a couple years. Caleb and Drake, new systems here, so they're only going to go up and to the right. The young boys are certainly playing Bears, obviously, in the NFC. Wow. Wow, they are for real. But the AFC, the two 10-win teams looking for 11, obviously have been dominant throughout. Let's go to the number three headline coming out of week 13 Sunday slate. Oh, big catches. Bad days. Oh, no. Yeah, bad days. Don't like, ah, yeah, bad days. These guys take L's but have highlight reel catches. So you can't even really talk about it.

25:40Pat McAfee:You can't even celebrate it. If you get a pick and you have a dance, if your team loses, we don't care that you practice the dance and people don't care.

25:47Adam Schefter:Can't even post it. Hmm? No, I'm saying you can't even, like, post it. Exactly. You shouldn't.

25:51Pat McAfee:You shouldn't. Just read the room a little bit. But on that note, there were some guys that had highlight reel catches, but their team's lost, so we can't talk about it. Chiefs, are they okay? I don't know. Hollywood's got the touch down in Jerry World. Congrats to the Dallas Cowboys, by the way. They've got to be absolutely pumped. And the Chiefs, who are they? What are they? We don't know. After they beat the Colts, they thought, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the phone. They might be all the way back. Then they lose the Cowboys. It's like, are the Cowboys the best football team in the NFL? The Chiefs still have it.

26:20Pat McAfee:We shall see Indianapolis Colts on a two-game slide. Don't love it. Maybe talk to CJ Stroud here later today. Alec Pierce, absolute weapon and a dog, has become much better for the Indianapolis Colts this year on being a deep threat. A lot of moxie. I assume somebody's going to pay for him in a huge, huge way. And then let's talk about Burks. Burks, baby, number 13 in the corner, Marcus Marigoda. Give him a shot. One-handed. How you doing? Now, people said he was a busty butch, and now he's got Mary Gota throwing him absolute mosses over mosses.

26:52Adam Schefter:Unbelievable catch. I mean, Riley Moss, that's as good as coverage you can have on that type of play. You just got to look at your coach, look at the sidelines, say, hey, they get paid too. Phenomenal catch on prime time. You know, reminiscences of OBJ on Sunday night football.

27:05Pat McAfee:I saw the 13-for-13 tweet from OBJ, and congrats to the Broncos. Get a big-time win. Once again, these are all losing teams in all these highlights. Speaking of, Chargers do their thing to the Raiders. is Brock Bauer. Too big, too athletic, too absurd. It's an O's the mentalist type mind blower here. That thing should hit the ground. Great coverage yet again by the Chargers. Brock Bauer's doing special stuff since the day he stepped onto a football field, I'd assume, Darius Bauer.

27:30Adam Schefter:Yeah, that's unbelievable. Once again, there's nothing more you can do as a defender. Good throw by Jay. Actually, I can't even say good throw. It's a back shoulder. You're putting it in a place where only your guy can get it. Just a phenomenal effort by Brock Bauer.

27:43Pat McAfee:And then friend of the program, took an L. Hey, Carolina Panthers, good football team. Carolina Panthers are good football teams. You know who's a good football player? Puka! Give me that! That's very reminiscent of the Odell Beckham Jr. reach, one-handed snag as well. Having to battle off a hand in there and then bring it in and cradle to the body with the control to be able to keep it off the turf. That's an incredible catch by Puka Nakua, who might be the next one. Honestly, he might be the next one whenever it comes down to it, two, three years from now.

28:10Adam Schefter:Unguardable. Matt Starf, obviously, he had a couple turnovers this game, but this is one of those situations where, hey, my guy's out there. I'm going to throw it up, give him a chance to make a play. He went up there and made a play. And this was a point in the game where you thought, okay, the Rams are figuring it out. They may come back and win it. But like you said, the Panthers are a very good football team. Are we sure Puka's the same player, though, because he ran out of bounds yesterday?

28:30Pat McAfee:People are sending me a couple tweets about that. People are saying he broke a tackle, a little off balance, full speed. A couple guys here, steps out of bounds. Then he comes back in, though. I think he maybe just lost track, lost his balance. But there was people saying Puka Nakura ran out of bounds. If he did run out of bounds, Puka, I'd like to let you know, yes, let's do more of that. Let's do more of that. We don't need to pick up an extra three feet whenever we already got 17 or 20, brother. Okay? And if it's going to save it, let's do that. Now let's go to the number two headline coming out of the weekend.

28:56Pat McAfee:The dogs were barking. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Ron Breaker gets a big win last night with the Vision as well. Our Saturday night, obviously, in Survivor Series. The dogs were barking there in San Diego at Petco Park. But also, first 11 games of this week, the underdogs were 9-2. OK, against the spread. Obviously, that would change as the favorites will go on to start winning down the stretch. But throughout Thanksgiving and obviously the Black Friday game, it was underdog city. Why do you think that's the case, D-Bud? Do you think whenever we're celebrating a holiday and the entire world is watching, there's a turducken on the line and a pallon honoring Mr.

29:33Pat McAfee:Madden and everybody's going to be talking about it. Do you think you can wipe out the record books, you can wipe out the matchups, it's going to be a battle? Why do you think underdogs had such a big time on the holiday?

29:42Adam Schefter:I don't know if it was one thing in particular. I feel like we always have that week or those couple weeks where the dogs just get to barking. This was definitely one of those weeks. Now, the short Thanksgiving and the Black Friday games, we always know you can kind of throw everything out the window. You never know what's going to happen in those type of games. But it's any given Sunday in this league. I think this year is showing the NFL when it comes to parity like we're right up there with any other league.

30:07Pat McAfee:Absolutely. Here's the quote from – or the stat from Hembo, actually. Overall, seven underdogs, one outright in Week 13 thus far. Second most in any week this season. All four underdogs on Thanksgiving and Black Friday, one outright. Carolina won as a 9.5-point underdog. Second largest, they were 13.5 a couple weeks ago. They're a good football team, man. They could surprise some folks. Panthers are the only team to win games when they are more than a 10-point favorite. I think at one point they were a 10-point underdog. I think at one point they were 10-point dogs. Every other team is 0-14. Panthers are 2-0.

30:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Panthers surprise folks. I guess it would be the gamblers that they're surprising because the sports books wouldn't be scoring it if they didn't think the gamblers would be doing what they're doing. I don't think a lot of people paying attention to the Panthers. They're kind of turning that thing around, and they're for real. And if you give Bryce Young some time and the ability to operate, he's able to do his thing. And on the defensive side, there's seemingly hungry, hungry hippos out there. Turning Stafford over is a big deal, especially with the season he's having right now.

31:03Adam Schefter:Yeah, Derrick Brown up front, he doesn't get talked about a bunch, but he's one of the best interior defensive linemen in the league. on the back end, Mike Jackson, he showed out, he balled out with a pick six. It's been however long now that Matt Stafford hasn't thrown a pick six. That kind of used to be Matt Stafford's thing. If it was bad Stafford, it would be some fumbles, which he had late in the game and some pick sixes. Mike Jackson sitting on that route. I think Sean Mivay kind of took off the ship and said, hey, you know, I wish I would have gave him a better play. But the most impressive win from the Dawgs, I would say for me, was that Bears win.

31:32Adam Schefter:We talked about the Bills running the ball down the throat against the Pittsburgh Steelers like they ran down the Philadelphia Eagles throw two backs over 125 yards just toting that right right down the middle you watching the plays you see the replays you see all the movement and it's even though they're simple you know run run game and run plays all of the movement all that eye candy for defensive backs and linebackers it's tough to be in the right spot be in the right place so Caleb Williams I don't think is even close to where he needs to be yet in the passing game aspect of but when they can run the ball like this and play defense, this Bears team, they're sitting number one in the NFC for a reason right now.

32:09Pat McAfee:281 rush yards for the Chicago Bears and jacked Ben Johnson. That's the most versus the Eagles under a Nick Sirianni-led team. Obviously, they had 200-yard rushers, Mononga and Swift, and 17 first downs, which is the most by any team this season. So Chicago Bears kind of did their thing to the Philadelphia Eagles, and you got a lot of Eagles fans going, the tush push, we failed. I mean, we couldn't even do the tush push. This isn't what we are. This isn't what we are. This isn't who we're going to be. and we got to figure some things out over there. I don't know how they do it.

32:37Adam Schefter:A.J. Brown had a good guy. He did. Got the ball a lot, two tuts. That might be the strategy when you're playing against the Eagles. Let's have A.J. Brown eat and just stop the run. The Caleb Williams roll left touchdown to Cole Komet was so nasty. He's a guy. He is very, very – We talk about the Caleb shit. This is filthy. In a bucket. Are you kidding me? Fade away running backwards. Crossbody. And that's Cole Komet. He had that in his back. Colson Loveland hasn't even really gotten going yet for the offense. He had a two-touchdown game already, but still, if he continues to go, the Bears are tremendously scared.

33:13Pat McAfee:And Ben Johnson jacked. Jacked. Absolutely jacked. I love seeing that. Free wieners for the city, I do believe, because he went tarpless in the locker room. Somebody, wiener circle, I believe. I don't remember the name of the place. They're giving up free dogs for the city if Ben Johnson was to go shirtless. And he said, give me one more week. Give me two more weeks. I think you've been hitting it a little bit harder. Absolutely jacked. And I'll tell you what, every time you look in a locker room or you see anything mic'd up, what I try to see is, these people like each other, you know? Obviously, you're going to get good quotes, but my eyes always tend to go to, like, how do these people feel about each other?

33:44Pat McAfee:You can kind of pick up little tells, because they're always going to edit the mic'd up, so they'll only give you what they want you to hear. You're not really going to get much shit. But what you can see is how they interact. You know, there's brief moments of interaction. It's like, okay, they seem like they like each other. Ooh, I don't think they like that guy. You can get that out of mic'd up. Ben Johnson, boys love him. Love him. Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Till good is better and better is best. And then bear on me. They have a whole thing. Everybody's in. And if he has that culture set up, his culture is a winning culture, right?

34:15Pat McAfee:Yeah. Don't we all agree? In football, the culture that Ben Johnson has established, we're going to be powerful. We're going to pound him. We're going to play great defense. And also, we're going to be smarter on offense and design people to be wide-ass open. Oh, yeah. And we got Caleb Williams, who's a super talent. It's like if the culture has been instilled, there's like no stopping this train, right? Isn't that kind of like the biggest thing? Can he get his culture in? Can he get his culture in? Oh, he lost the locker room. That's what happens when somebody can't get their culture in. Ben Johnson is a hard ass, allegedly, accountability driven, and he's got his culture in play already.

34:45Pat McAfee:And it's very obvious whenever you see all the mic'd ups and the cameras behind the scenes.

34:48Adam Schefter:Yeah, and you got to get results too, especially in the big boy league, the national football league. You have to get results. And that's how you get the real buy-in from the vets and the young guys. because we've seen coaches go to certain places and try to be a hard ass and it not work, I think mainly because it doesn't have the results. So getting these results, and it shows you, man, whatever it takes, go and get your coach. Like, it matters. Coaching matters. Go and get your coach. Obviously, you have to have a quarterback as well, but go and get your coach, collegiate level, professional level.

35:17Adam Schefter:Go and get your guy, whatever it takes. Whatever bullshit comes with it, it'll be all right because those vibes in the locker room, like, that is just completely different of anything we've seen from the Bears since, you know, they went to the Super Bowl in Miami in 06 with Rex Grossman running the show. But, yeah, go and get your head coach, get your quarterback. And it shows a lot that Ben Johnson obviously chose to go to Chicago, pair it with Kayla Williams. And now, like, these guys, man, those are the vibes. That's what you miss. That's the type of shit you miss as a former player being in the locker room, that feeling after a game.

35:47Adam Schefter:You know, everybody was picking the Eagles. You thought, okay, the Eagles were going to figure it out. They gave up nine points, seven points. and then to go in there and run the ball down their throat like that against a physical ball club, it's nothing better after that. Special, man. And to D-Buth's point, go and get your coach. I mean, Tony, the only team the Steelers can only look to as far as moving on from a legendary coach would be the Patriots. And you can go back to the Andy Reid Eagles, sure, if you want to, but in recent memory of the Patriots, the Patriots made the decision to move on from Bill and then doubled down on their decision by firing Gerard Mayo after the first year.

36:19Sometimes you get the wrong guy, But when your right guy comes available to D-Butt's point, like Vrabel, you just have to make that decision. It takes a lot of balls from the owners.

36:30Pat McAfee:A lot of gut sack to do that. Yeah. Yeah, because you're making a big – you're changing the trajectory of everything. And if that culture stinks right away, and then you go to another culture. Oh, is the grass greener, huh? Yeah, exactly. Well, and Ben Johnson deserves all of the credit, obviously, but him bringing in Dennis Allen to be in D.C. having a guy who has been a head coach before because every week going into these games, all we hear about is how banged up the Bears' defense is. And they go out and they do the same thing every week. They turn the other team over multiple times, and there's no excuses.

37:02So him having the wherewithal to be like, yes, I will have the offense humming on all cylinders and ready to go, but I also need to get a guy who knows what the hell he's doing on defense and getting a guy who's been a head coach before, that was a massive move as well.

37:14Pat McAfee:I agree. Congrats to everybody that was an underdog and had a great holiday. We very much love that. It showcases that our league, anything can happen on any given field. And Sean McVay was asked about those Panthers. Did you guys not respect them? And he basically said, Carolina Panthers is a good football team. That's basically what he said. It's the NFL. Everybody's good. You know, there's a couple ball bounces this way. I wish I would have given a better play. What he wanted to say was, hey, Carolina Panthers is a good football team. football team yeah bryce young uh youngest quarterback to 11 game-winning drives was the stat yesterday for him already yeah all right congrats to them that seemed like a lost cause from top yep oh my god all the way to the bottom of the stadium even their fake ai thing the panther that they had oh yeah it was the worst one of all time i liked it i liked it was cool but you really couldn't tell it was a gif it was a gif they just put on jumbotron what are you talking about They say, look to your right.

38:13Adam Schefter:It's in the stands. No, it's not. That was the thing. It was only, you know, a thousand people in the stands. It was sick. Okay. Let's not act like you didn't pull that up on the phone. Chat TTT could go make me one of those. That's a different time. We can't. That's relative. But to Lions reversing the curse with Daniels and Manning doing the whiskey thing, kind of you could make the argument with Tepper opening the stadium for the fundraiser. Hurricane relief. Yeah.

38:36Pat McAfee:With Luke Collins, Eric Church, Caleb. I forget who else is all down there. Chase Rice sold out the stadium. He can have it. And also, here's a donation on top of it. And also, this on top of it. It's like, wait a minute. Did the Grinch's heart grow? Yeah. Flipped the whole thing. Remember when he was going into restaurants? Like, hey, take that sign down right now. I ain't firing anybody. Smack the guy's hat off his head. And then he had his ice? Yeah, the ice on the fan. I ain't going to get the hell out of my face.

39:03Adam Schefter:Menace.

39:04Pat McAfee:And he was a menace. He was an absolute menace. And then he opened up the stadium. And then he said, you know what? Geez, I got to step back. a little bit. And he, hey, everything he's ever done, he's had success. So it seems like that's happening right now. Number one storyline. Hey, listen, the AFC South, it just means more. Now, everybody understands that going into the year that the AFC South is a juggernaut. The AFC South has Mount Rushmore teams, basically. Hey, how many teams are in there? Four. Where would they go? Rushmore. All of them. Titans, a little problematic. Okay, they got to figure it out.

39:37AJ Hawk:Maybe worst team ever.

39:38Pat McAfee:Could potentially be. They are exactly what we were just saying about the Carolina Panthers, and there's been some other teams that have been in this position since our Texans at one point were in this position. Oh, yeah. Whenever we were kind of doing these live shows. Raiders not too far off. Yeah, they're seemingly heading that way potentially, but they've got Tom Brady there, so we assume that he will figure it out and everything like that. But the Tennessee Titans got a lot to figure out. Cam Ward, I think, has all the talent in the world. If you put nothing around him, will he ever be able to accomplish anything?

40:00Pat McAfee:We have no idea, but the people of Nashville are great football people. So, like, hopefully that'll come together because Nashville and football being great would be fantastic. and has been fantastic, but they fire Vrabel. Vrabel now may be coach of the year with New England. Lady doesn't even show up at the firing of the thing. I mean, there's just a lot with them being bad. Jaguars, though, don't look now. Liam Cohen's got them rolling. D 'Amico Ryan's Houston Texans. Well, they just get a huge win. Let's go football, too. They get a huge win in a division in a difficult place to play. Now, the AFC South, though, everybody has to still play everybody.

40:33Pat McAfee:Colts still have to play Jacksonville Jaguars twice. We have to play Houston Texans one more time. Every divisional game for the Indianapolis Colts has come in the final quarter, basically, of the NFL season. Remember when we were the hottest team in the NFL? I do. Yeah. There was no division games then. All the division games are right now. And guess what? Our quarterback has a fractured fibula, which I didn't even know what the fuck it was. And I looked it up. That thing's right here. That's a very vital one. You both get it. Yeah, you do. That came out of nowhere. Saw him on injury report. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

41:10Pat McAfee:What's going on here? What's going on here? Nothing. Okay, it'll be good. He's still playing. See him on injury report again. Togo. What's going on here? Nothing. Nothing's going on. Then I see a video from Romeo Wood. Ooh. He ain't doing it. Yeah, Big Ben. He can't even move. Put him in the boot. What's he doing? He's all right. He broke his leg. He'll be fine. Well, at least you have AR as backup, right? Oh, no. AR himself warming up. Yeah. Well, at least non-division games with the Seahawks and the Niners. Yeah, a couple cupcakes. Yeah. Yeah, it's easy road here for the Indianapolis Colts. Wow.

41:43Pat McAfee:I don't know if this was Roger Goodell or who it was. I didn't see that. We've been through enough. But on that note. It's a tough catch. And listen, CJ, I'm meeting this guy. I don't know what his problem is. He's throwing a ball basically like this. 30 yards down the field right on the money to somebody every single time. It makes no sense how good he is seemingly every time he steps foot into our building. He is everything that you would want your quarterback to be when he's in our building. Now, our defense made some plays. Even though our interception did a dance, it was sweet. We did a lot of good things.

42:14Pat McAfee:Alec Pierce made some plays. But inevitably, in the end, the Houston Texans beat the Indianapolis Colts. And it wasn't just the Houston Texans, might I add. It was also the refs. It was also the officials. Oh, shit. Listen, they put ass in these officials or ass. That is what these particular refs did. This is a delay game. It's third and 15. Obviously, field goal range. So, 16-13. We assume Kaimi Fairbairn will make the kick, maybe. Okay, so obviously a delay of game. So, they should have had to play. Then we get a phantom defensive pass interference. Okay. So, play shouldn't happen. Okay, and now what?

42:49Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Pass interference on who? On that? And then the ref is literally standing right behind it. He had good eyes on his thing. I saw him. This is right down our thing. He calls defensive pass interference. Obviously, they get a first down. Okay, sweet. This should have been a field goal. Instead, end around. touchdown, Collins, touchdown, Texans. All of a sudden, it's 20 to 13, right? Well, that would be if they hit the extra point. Well, let's go to the extra point. Yeah, he misses it. Okay, so it doesn't even go in. And this guy, yep, that's good, right? That's what we're doing. So this is all within a span of like four or five plays.

43:22Pat McAfee:So whenever you talk about an entire building just getting the, you suck chance out of them as aggressively as possible, you're talking about in this exact moment. It was absurd. And it was back-to-back-to-back-to-back. And it's like the Houston Texans defense is phenomenal. Yeah, there are some Texans fans in there. Their fans are also great. CJ Stroud. What the hell? Oh, no. Is this real? They had to change the name? Brandon Alvarez. I do not. Oh, no. Wait, when they do that? I told X they can't do this. I told him. Hey, excuse me. This is not a lot. AI is getting out of control. Oh, that's not real?

43:58Pat McAfee:I don't think. No. That's not real. Okay. Were the cranes already going up when you guys were leaving yesterday to do this? That is not real. That is AI. It is not actually the straddle. Wait, really? Brandon Alvarez said he took the picture, right? Then he said, no. Damn, Pat responded to a pic. I made it. Oh, yeah, it's fake. It's not fake. Oh, okay. Wait, but did he make it in with his camera? He was the foreman? Yeah. No, he was on the thing, and he was doing it. Because every time CJ placed. He wasn't in the helicopter? He did not. That is not. It's called the lighthouse. It is not called the straddle.

44:29Pat McAfee:I'm done with it. But this is what happens when CJ plays against us, seemingly always wins. And with the Indianapolis Colts quarterback situation being what it is, we're in trouble because a big part of Danny Dimes' offensive contributions is the fear that he can outrun you, which he can. Hey, white boy got a little motion whenever he was running. Danny Dimes, you know, he kind of looks like a nerd, acts like a nerd, everything like that. He's big, strong, powerful, fast boy. Over rush yards. Over rush yards every single game. That's a massive part of his game. There really isn't much fear of that right now, I don't think any Houston Texans number one defense.

45:00Pat McAfee:That was not the right team to have to play against with that. They are. They hunt. They do. Boy, I actually thought a couple different times. These fans have to hate watching these games. Their defense is so good. This is ass. Like your offense, you're here for the offense. You show up and your offense is going to be ass against this team. So you're just going to sit there and be, all right, maybe next time. All right. This is getting kind of boring, isn't it? Boo! We need to start doing some stuff. Boo! It's like, well, this Texans defense doesn't let you. They are very good. And the Jacksonville Jaguars, very good.

45:30Pat McAfee:And the Indianapolis Colts, we're trying to hold on right now. We are trying to hold the hell on right now. We got a tough road down the stretch. Joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior NFL insider in Michigan, Matt. And ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Schefter, sorry we made you wait there. We apologize. Let's talk about Danny Dimes, shall we? I didn't know what a fibula was. I had to obviously Google it, ask where it is. That feels like a pretty important one to somebody who's pretty mobile. Now, Danny Dimes, fractured fibula, what do we know? and what should we be expecting going forward?

45:59Well, I think it's a hairline fracture, and I think he compromises his lateral. You'll see that he has not been able to move laterally as much as he did earlier in the year, and they're not calling as many plays for him to run as they did earlier in the year, and it seems to be an issue in that regard. Obviously, he's full participant in practice. Obviously, he's going to play, but obviously he's not going to play the same way that he's been playing, and I think that that has impacted their offense some.

46:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, it certainly has. And also, it hurts very bad, this type of thing. So, obviously, the amount of mental toughness that he'll have to go through every single step. We shall watch as the journey to the AFC South Championship rolls on. Sauce Gardner, we lost him very early in the game. You know, I was actually with Tyrese Halliburton, recovering very well, by the way. I just showed a one-footed dunk last week. Tyrese Halliburton was in the suite. I know watching the game, he's a big Colts fan, loves coming out. He saw the replay of this, and obviously he's going through an Achilles thing right now.

46:53Pat McAfee:he goes hey that looked like that looked like something you know he looked back there that calf something along those lines immediately upon it happening because that's kind of the mo of one of these things he feels like somebody kicks you from the back they say and then he got carried off now he's walking there but when he was on the field there was no pressure on his foot at all so we were all very very worried what are we hearing with sauce gardner is obviously we uh we're bummed out quick that we lost the number one out there Yeah, well, the good part is, obviously, it doesn't seem like it's his Achilles.

47:25And the great Dr. Randy Moss diagnosed that right away. We were in our conference room watching the games after Sunday countdown. And obviously, to your point, Pat, everybody thinks, okay, is this an Achilles? But within minutes, Doss was back on the field in a boot and with crutches. And Randy's like, if you tear your Achilles, you're not coming back out into the field. It won't be his Achilles. And it doesn't look like it was. It looks like it's a calf injury. It looks like it's multiple weeks. I think we may have seen the last of him for roughly about a month. Roughly, we'll see if I have to put him on injured reserve or not.

48:04Hey, the good part is it's not his Achilles. Because if it was his Achilles, you don't even know if the guy's ever going to be the same kind of player again. Fortunately, it looks like a calf injury. Calfs are not fun, and it looked like it was very painful. and hopefully he's back soon and hopefully Tyrese Halliburton's back soon.

48:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, I've been telling Tyrese the Pacers need him, so maybe we expedite this thing. I think we've won three games this year, maybe? Yeah, maybe. I think second last night. Okay, yeah. Whatever the case. Yeah, Tyrese going to be back in good spirits. Nice to hear that Sauce going to be back for a playoff push here in Indianapolis as it takes place. A couple other injuries as well. Any updates? Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Chef D, Thanksgiving, Amon Ra went down early with an ankle. They have Thursday night football. this week? What's it looking like for Amon Ra's recovery? I would say most people would not be able to make it back for Thursday Night Football.

48:52Knowing Amon Ra, I think he's going to wind up pushing to try to play on Thursday Night. Now, whether he can do that or not, we'll see how the week of practice goes and we'll see how he feels on Thursday. I don't think they're going to be ready to rule him out quick. Maybe they will, but I think he's going to give it a chance to be able to try to play on Thursday. I'm not telling he will, but this guy is very, very tough.

49:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, very tough, very strong. I mean, seemingly built for everything. If he's able to bounce back that quick, I think we will all be impressed. Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say, you know, you're missing, if he doesn't play, if he doesn't play on Thursday night, no Amon Ra, no Sam Laporta, all the injuries in the second. It's a lot to overcome for them. No Ragnell. I'll tell you what, man. Yeah, what happened? The day Ragnell came in and the doctors were like, hey, exactly what we said, like, six months ago. You just can't. Yeah, you need to stay retired. You can't do it, dude. We're sorry. Like, we wish we could, but But the scans come back the exact same as whenever you had to retire.

49:53Pat McAfee:Your whole body is broken, Frank. And obviously the world respects the shit out of you for that. But it's like we can't let you back on the field. Just like last year we were – I mean, come on, Frank. You're too damn tough. We can't do it. Is that what happened? Is that basically how the whole story went with Frank? I mean, like he goes in there. They announce he's coming back. He wants to come back, and they go in, the doctors look, and they find a hamstring issue. Frank, shredded. Frank, you can't pass. Physical. And, you know, that announcement came about 15 minutes before Michigan-Ohio State kicked off in a weekend in which the Lions already lost the game on Thanksgiving Day.

50:32So they lose Thanksgiving Day. Now you lose Frank Ragno, not that he had him. I'm like, oh, I know how this Michigan-Ohio State game is going. The whole weekend for Michigan. That's how it's going for the state right now. I mean, I could have predicted that right away.

50:45Pat McAfee:It was cold up there, man. It was cold up there. Congrats to Ohio State in a big-time win. Big-time win by Ohio State Buckeyes. Hey, young team up there in Michigan. They can learn from this as they go forward. Foxy, you a little bit worried about these lines, man? You a little bit worried about what's going on? I mean, as Shefty said, I was heading home for Thanksgiving. It's Wednesday. Ragnall's back. We're going to be at the Packers tomorrow. The Lions are going to be in the playoffs. We're going to go to the Super Bowl. Everyone is fired up for the best Thanksgiving of all time. and then we lose.

51:15Ragnall's out. And I'm not a Michigan fan, but I know a lot of people that went to the Lions game on Thursday, spent their Thanksgiving at Ford Field, and also spent their Saturday at the Big House. One of the worst weekends of all time for those people. So, yeah, it's been pretty tough over here.

51:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, sorry to hear that about your holiday, if that's how it went. But on that note, the people in Ohio are living nice. The people in Ohio are living very, very nice. and good luck to the Lions as they continue to do this. Okay, last big-time injury. We don't know if you're going to have any updates. Obviously, quick turnaround. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Shefty, anything on Justin Herbert? We heard he broke his left hand, and we just saw Rodgers, you know, have a couple breaks in his left wrist, and he missed a week, obviously. The Chargers haven't said whether or not he's going to miss a game yet, but with their, you know, playoff positioning, they obviously can't really afford for Herbert to miss any time.

52:06Have you heard anything on that? Well, he's having the surgery today. He says he's going to try to play. He's treating it as if he's playing. Now, again, he's going to have a surgery. We'll see how he can get through the week of practice, what his grip on the football is like. I don't know if there's any ligament damage. I think that's a key question here. When doctors go in there, maybe they find some ligament damage or not. Hopefully not. Hopefully he's back soon. Yesterday he goes out and then comes back in with that giant oven mitt on his left hand and finishes the game. That guy's a warrior.

52:42He's going to try to play next Monday night. We'll see if the surgery today allows that to happen. I think it's up in the air.

52:48Pat McAfee:His football guy, Herbert's football guy, if he can play, he will play. Max Crosby and he obviously had their moment. Whenever he shoves him for yelling in his ear, Max says, did anybody fight Max?

52:59Adam Schefter:I think Alime and Ren over. I don't know about fighting Max.

53:02Pat McAfee:I don't think so. He just walked off. I don't know. I'm not getting into that. I'm not getting into that. Yeah, Max Crosby, what a menace when you talk about menaces of all menaces. He's doing his thing. Love good AFC West football. Oh, that was in his year. That's the first time he's doing the whole thing. Yeah, okay.

53:17Adam Schefter:It's a little Phillip Rivers.

53:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was screaming right at him. 92-yard touchdown. He's yelling in that defensive line. After he helps him up in that entire thing. I like that. Yeah, there's a little heat there. We like that there's a little heat there. Yeah, I do love everything about it. Okay, let's move on to some big-time stories that are obviously developing. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shefty, I'm not sure if you saw it, but for the fourth time this season on primetime in front of a national TV audience, the Steelers got embarrassed, Renegade got booed, and there was fire of Mike Tomlin. Chance, is there any chance that there is a change in Pittsburgh this season?

53:53What are the reads or vibes you're getting out of that building? Tony, I've always felt like if a change ever occurs there, it's going to be because Mike Tomlin doesn't want to be back there. Mike Tomlin, again, I know the people in Pittsburgh don't like it. Hasn't had the losing season in his 18 years as a head coach. Trying to make interrupt. They also haven't won a playoff game since 2016. So it's both ways. Some people view it one way. Other people view it another way. I could say if they didn't want Mike Tomlin there, and maybe the message is stale, maybe he moves on like Andy Reid, finds a new home.

54:29Andy Reid's time in Philly had run out. He went to Kansas City. We see how that worked out for him. Of course, he drafted Mahomes, but it worked out incredibly well. And the Chiefs obviously love having him. If Mike Tomlin were a coaching free agent, he automatically would become the number one coaching free agent out there. He could have any coaching job he wanted. He could have any broadcasting job he wanted. Oh, yes. So, I mean, you know, yeah, maybe the Steelers fans clearly have had enough of Mike Tomlin. But I don't know that they're not firing Mike Tomlin. That's not going to happen. but we're not going to get one of these announcements that the Steelers have relieved him of his duties the way that we get from other teams.

55:08Pat McAfee:Would there be a trade or anything like that? Would that be the conversation? And obviously Coach Tomlin would have to be the one that kind of says he's good with it. Coach Tomlin, whenever, this is just like the James Franklin at Penn State, but Tomlin actually won a bunch. Five, ten years from now, everybody, if there is a change, we're not saying that there is or we have any say in anything, or the Roonies kind of do their entire thing. People will look back on Tomlin as super pot. Like, Tomlin will be remembered as absolute hero in Pittsburgh at some point. But I think the Pittsburgh people, like you mentioned, 18 years of winning season, they're like, we're done with that whole thing.

55:39Pat McAfee:We'll be excited to learn. Okay, we got to be quick here because we obviously pushed the first 15 too long. D-Butt has a question for you about another team that's thinking about change.

55:46Adam Schefter:Yeah, we'll stay in Pennsylvania with the Eagles. Obviously, you know, defending Super Bowl champs, but it's been ugly couple games sliding on offense. Any changes coming at the offensive play caller with Kevin Petullo? He'll be out. They've said no, they're not doing that. Everybody wants changes there, too. I think that Nick Sirianni probably has to get a little bit more involved in the offense. The offensive line's got to play better. There's probably a combination of factors. But Nick Sirianni said they're not planning to do anything like that, D-Bud.

56:13Pat McAfee:Okay, that's big news out of Philadelphia. Hopefully they're able to get rolling again. You know, when Saquon was going, it was so much fun. It was cool. It was so much fun when Jalen was doing cool stuff. It was always fun. Now it just seems like there's drama over. Too much. A lot of distraction. but never distraction with you, Adam Schefter. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Happy Monday. You in studio tonight, or what are you doing? I'm sitting in my house right now. I'm going to go to the doctors. I've been coughing for about a week. With every cough yesterday, Greeny would move further and further away from me in the conference room.

56:45That's a good idea.

56:46Pat McAfee:You need to see up, brother, over there. Okay, good luck. We're pulling for you. We love you, ladies and gentlemen. Adam Schefter. Yay, Schefter! Congrats to the Buckeyes, by the way.

56:54Adam Schefter:Yeah. So good.

56:56Pat McAfee:Good pick. Hey, felt good about it. Good team. In the face fold. Hour two on the other side. Goodbye.

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57:53Pat McAfee:Football! He's the greatest, and we're so lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. It's not just me, obviously. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Don! Cowboys AP Tone sitting right there. Tone, how'd the public do this weekend? Do we have the numbers on how the public did over the weekend here? I do, actually. 60 % or more of the bets of the team. Sorry. Let me restart that. Yep, yep. Hey, from the beginning. Hey, Tone, how'd the public do this weekend? You got any books on that or anything? Yeah, Pat, let me tell you about that. Teams that were getting 60 % or more of the bets against the spread were actually 5-4 this week.

58:27That's our first winning week of the year, baby.

58:29Pat McAfee:Wow.

58:32Pat McAfee:Oh, mama, I'm in here. Oh, mama,

58:38Pat McAfee:I'm in here. Maybe we just try to keep that for like a good feeling. Yeah, maybe. I like where you're at. Maybe the Patriots take that song tonight. Don't you do that. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. Yeah, that'd be perfect with the leader of the line. Don't you do that. Who did the Yankees pitcher who had that Pittsburgh? Oh, David Bednar. Yeah, he's a Pittsburgh guy, right? Yeah. Came from the Pirates. I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah, I was going to say, you thought the curse of the babe was bad. You take it right again and see what that curse does to you. I don't believe in him. No, I don't know if he's going to even come out to it anymore.

59:13Because that's the whole reason he did it. Because he was thinking of James Harrison sacking Joe Flacco. That's why I won.

59:19Pat McAfee:Pittsburgh Steelers fans booed Renegade last night in the fourth quarter when the defense was on the field. A tradition that is maybe one of the best in the NFL. There's not a lot of – And we'll take it with a happy heart. Don't you have like living on a prayer or some bullshit? We got basically – whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't you bullshit Jon Bon Jovi, okay? Let's calm down for a second. But we'll gladly take Renegade. And just like Coach Gary Gaines says, ain't no such thing as curses. I mean, maybe the lot of us thinks Renegade, too. You mean the stride house? You need to.

59:56Pat McAfee:Didn't like that. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. I don't like that one bit. I didn't like that. CJ has a lot of success in that building. He does. Has he ever lost? Four weeks. I don't think so. He's on the feet. I don't think he's ever lost. Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. And, boy, it's nice to have eyes on it because every time he drops back, You think, this guy's got nowhere to throw the ball. This guy has nowhere to throw the ball. And then somehow he throws it to a spot. It hovers, okay, just doesn't go high and just right in somebody's hand. He's unbelievable. And the way he walks is just so confident, just so confident.

1:00:30Pat McAfee:Because I think he's a little duck footy, right? So his feet go out like that. And he's a heel-toe walker. So he has a natural sway because his duck feet kind of lead him to this thing. So his moxie radiates literally through every step that he takes. He's a weapon, dude. He is an absolute weapon. Collins, very good. Woody, very good. I mean, you talk about the defense, number one defense in the league. It's like, I don't look, but it's called the light house. It's not called the stride house. No matter how many times C.J. Stroud goes in there and has career days. Okay, we're kind of all done with that.

1:01:05Pat McAfee:You worried about the Colts?

1:01:08Adam Schefter:Yeah, because of the Daniel Jones injury. I think that's big. Him playing, him being a tough guy, being out there is big news. But obviously you talked about his athleticism, his ability to extend plays. Yes, and then the schedule. You see one win on there? Yeah. I see a few wins. I got good news. There's another Duke quarterback that can run waiting in the wings.

1:01:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, Riley Leonard, I see him. He's big, strong, strapping. Mm-mm. That was a national, went to the national championship. No. Remember that first drive in the national championship? 18th place. I remember. And the last one. Put the team on his back. Excuse me, this guy's been in the lab here in Indianapolis with Shane Steichen, which is his name. Yeah, that's his name. Wasn't a whole lot of that today. Yeah, a lot of stinkin'. Joining us now live from Manhattan, Ohio is a college football national champion with the Ohio State Buckeyes. Wow. He's waking up feeling much better today than he was for 2 ,191 days.

1:02:03Pat McAfee:He's a Super Bowl champion, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. All the days, A.J., now you get a chance to say I'm happy today, you know, because you guys finally beat Michigan. You did it up there in Ann Arbor. I'm happy for us, man. I'm happy we did it. You know, I'm happy we did it, A.J. Yeah, it was a very smart pick, I think, that you made on college game day, obviously, with Hutch sitting right next to you. He was very good, actually, by the way. I appreciate him and his energy and how he interacted with you guys and everybody on the panel. But, yeah, I mean, you know, the Bucs went up there, took care of business.

1:02:33Here we go. We got Indiana next, another week. Here it is.

1:02:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, humble. We're going to win with some humility here. You know, I'm not going to – I liked Ryan Day saying, I've thought about what I was going to say in this press conference a lot. That's awesome. Okay? I'm going to save those for another day, and I'm going to win with some humility here. I also appreciate him afterwards talking to Coach Jerome Moore. Hey, you've got to get your guys out of here, okay? We're not going to go on your shit, but this is going to get bad if this doesn't happen or whatever. And then him actually telling the boys, nah, we're not doing that. I appreciate the fact that there was seemingly a little bit of an understanding like, hey, we were supposed to win this one.

1:03:06Pat McAfee:All right, now we know it's the first time we've won this particular game, but we were supposed to win this one in our minds, in the national coverages, everybody's eyes were supposed to win this one. But Brutus maybe had one of the greatest mascot performances of all time. What a photo. What a situation. He's standing on his head during game day. That was sweet. That was nuts. Pretty good. He's a buck guy. Pretty good. But, AJ, I was happy for the state of Ohio. I was happy for the boys to get a chance to experience happiness in this particular rivalry. And I thought about you out there, bud.

1:03:41Pat McAfee:I really did. Yeah, they had to do that. In khakis, too. Shout out to Harbaugh. I mean, just the whole thing. Really, really good. But, AJ, I thought about you guys, dude. Happy for you. Genuinely. Yeah, it was awesome. I thought even how it played out was great for Ohio State and moving forward. First off, AQ is FaceTiming me right now. I'm not sure if he knows I'm on the show or what's going on, but he's FaceTiming my computer as we speak. Yeah. I think we should think about answering that. Can I – just let me end and accept, I guess. But I thought for Ohio State, how they played in like getting down early, throwing the pick early, getting like, hey, they haven't really been in that situation this year when things are really up against and people could panic and think, oh, no, what are we going to do?

1:04:20is this going to happen again and they just stayed calm figured it out obviously their defense is awesome the whole time and uh then just pounded the rock the whole second half it was great vibes

1:04:29Pat McAfee:obviously in that stadium cold as hell man cold as hell and you know michigan uh fox sports is basically an entire michigan lineup you know what i mean so going up there as college game day is certainly fascinating you know because the drive and the train so we get to see i get to see a lot okay i'm i'm driving around the neighborhood to get to the stadium from where set is to get to and kind of through it all it's such a cool thing that this happens you know like it is i talked about the beginning of college game day rivalry weekend is like what college football is at its absolute best like this the passion the actual genuine emotion and happiness or absolute misery that comes from the outcome of these games and that's been happening for generations and generations is what makes college football so damn special so it was awesome to be a part of now with all that passion comes from drama and controversy ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a guy who is sleeping on lane kiffin's cot this weekend ladies and gentlemen a man who deserves every award that you could possibly give to an investigative journalist a pundit maybe if there's a hair model too for sure and also a man who's just cool as hell ladies and gentlemen maurie smith yeah maurie how you doing bud gentlemen good afternoon i hope you're well uh it's always great to spend time with you and i'm not even sure what the hell my name is i don't know where i am of course uh the me i just want to say this to america and beyond the memes were incredible entertainment throughout the entire soiree so thank all of you who understand ai i do not i have no idea what it is or how it works but it kept uh me and the boys very well entertained throughout Saturday and Sunday.

1:06:15Pat McAfee:I love that the internet was your tag team partner through this because, boy, we are following your every step. You're in your hotel room talking about it. You're in the facility talking about it. You're at an FBO talking about it. You're pushing back meetings. You're saying, there was a meeting. Now it's been pushed back yet again. Pushed back meetings. That's a fact, Jack. Yeah, yet again. So we appreciate you following it. Biggest story, obviously, in college ball right now. There's so many things that could be talked about on the field, But obviously, Lane Kiffin potentially leaving his school in the middle of the best run that they've ever had and going to a rival school before the college football playoff became the story that captivated almost the entire thing.

1:06:52Pat McAfee:There was a lot of exposure, I think, to the flawed CFB calendar on when the transfer portal is, when the recruiting deadline is, when teams can go, when the playoffs are. So I think there's going to be some changes made from this entire scene, but we didn't get any of the changes for this particular situation. How would you describe what you experienced and basically the Lane Kiffin situation as a whole from your perspective embedded in the middle of it basically over the last 48 hours? I've tried to drill down on that, Pat. I've tried to think really intentionally about everything we just experienced because Lane is an enigma.

1:07:32He's such a unique personality, and I would venture to say, having been around him a lot, the personality that you see on social media is not always indicative of the person that he is when you're having a conversation with him. And, you know, on social media, he's very flamboyant and boisterous and controversial and polarizing, but when you're talking to him one-on-one, he's much quieter and more introspective. And so going into this thing with all of the growing groundswell of what is his decision going to be, the fact that Keith Carter, the athletics director at Ole Miss, basically gave him an ultimatum.

1:08:20All right, it's going to be Saturday. I've got Saturday after the Egg Bowl. So I'm commissioned to go cover the Egg Bowl as part of the broadcast and try to give some semblance of insight during the game, not just about the decision itself, but the person making the decision, who again is a very complex man. And then the Egg Bowl ends, and I go over to Oxford. And then it got really interesting because there was this information coming in that the two sides were not agreeing. And the main crux of that was, as millions of you know, he wanted to coach this football team. And then there was some back and forth first about if he does take the LSU job, who goes with him that's on the current staff at Ole Miss.

1:09:20And those were major sticking points. There was a lot of tense conversations around that between Keith Carter and Lane Kiffin. And then we show up Saturday morning. We do all of the shows and college game day, and we're trying to give some insight. And I I talked to Lane for quite a while Saturday morning, and he gave me what he could. And then we waited and waited and waited and waited. And, I mean, we didn't leave there until, honestly, I don't even remember what time it was. I want to say midnight-ish central, I think, something like that. We were there 18-something hours with no resolution.

1:10:05And I don't know if you guys saw the clip from SEC Network. I mean, I texted him in the 8 o 'clock hour around 8.45 or 6, and I'm like, bro, is there going to be a resolution tonight? Please, God in heaven, tell me yes.

1:10:23People are putting AI on the Internet where I look like a damn cryptkeeper. We've got to do better now. We've got to figure this out. Then, brother, you wake up Sunday morning, and you still don't know. and and i'll tell you i i think the only story that i've covered that was this type of news that might have been a little weirder was when scotty scheffler got arrested at valhalla which by the way they should have engraved an emmy and handed it to jeff darlings immediately that was the most brilliant reporting i've ever seen and then i chased him down to the tarmac and interviewed him last evening.

1:11:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, you chasing him down to the tarmac is obviously special because Lane Kiffin starts it with, hey, I really like the way you ran through. I assume you had to jump through some stuff, hide behind some stuff. Oh, buddy. Let me tell you guys this story. It is a hell of a story. Yes. So, all right, the Ole Miss meeting ends. A player comes out and yells, it's the Pete Golding era. So we're all like, oh, hell, okay. They've made Pete Golding. Is he the interim? Is he the full-time? what are we doing here so we're all working our phones trying to figure that out and then i get a text from lane and he goes i'll do your interview right now i'm like awesome where when i'll do it we'll go to your house we'll go to the moon we'll go to the airport and there had been a lot of a lot of information coming in that two lsu planes were landing at the oxford airport in just an hour or so, hour or 90 minutes.

1:12:02And I was still waiting to get this information from him on when we might do this. Nothing. Crickets. So I look at my guys and I'm like, boys, we're going to the airport. Like my journalism antenna went up. I'm like, we're going to the airport. So we go to the airport and we wait and we wait. And it was cold as hell. Cold, cold. And then I get a note from him and he's like, we're on the way well i knew you know you all of you guys are big private jet guys so i know you guys know this oh whoa whoa whoa don't get away i knew it is very nice i knew that given the scene which was bedlam i mean the people showed out at the oxford airport ready to tell my man kiffin that he's number one.

1:12:54Thank you. Thank you, Lane. I knew they were going to drive him straight onto the tarmac. So I'm trying to figure out how to get on the tarmac when I know that's against the law. You can't just walk out there. So I'm like, dude, where are they taking you? So he tells me this area, right? Not going to disclose the area, but I did know that it wasn't where I was. So I yell at my crew. I'm like, come on, boys, let's go. and I had been given at the Birmingham airport Thanksgiving night this conversion van. Now y 'all this ain't no minivan. This is like a 16 person it's like driving a loaf of bread and I'm going to tell you something now I've been getting my balls busted constantly about that by everybody in the world for driving that loaf of bread but you know what God is so good.

1:13:45Yes he is. If I didn't have that van in that chaotic moment where we're running to get lane kiffin there's no way i can fit my whole crew all the cameras all the gear in one vehicle but i had the loaf of bread all right so we all get in a loaf of bread and and lane is basically giving me the play-by-play on where he is and i'm i'm wheeling this van that's right and we take a left and when we take a left off this highway there is all these fire trucks that have blocked off the road there's fire men blocking the road well i said to hell with it we're bo duking this thing hell yeah so there's a field that i drove around the barricade through all of this farm equipment the van's bottoming out we're bombing this thing through ditches over the hill and through the woods to this road and then i met this van all the way up on top of the hill to the to the tarmac area and there he stood laughing his ass out so he saw the whole thing i'll give you and he's on the phone and he's like bro you really are scooby-doo this is the most amazing thing i've ever seen in my life but yeah i give him a lot of credit man like i you know when i got out of the van and the boys piled out which shout out to my crew world class louise and the boys killed it all right this is a chaotic moment where this man is going through a lot of emotion here all right he has made the decision to leave a team that he's led to the greatest season ever first time in 132 years of old miss rebel football that they have 11 regular season wins.

1:15:33They're going to host a college football playoff game. It is the greatest era in the history of the program. And he's chosen to go to the enemy. So I asked him every question that I felt was pertinent in that moment, all the way down to, what does LSU offer you that Ole Miss doesn't? And I give him a lot of credit because he said, I don't know that yet it may not be the right decision we'll find out but you know he i think he said the job i don't want to put words in his mouth but it was basically like let's go prove this right yes something to that effect and so um he answered the questions as best he could and it was a it wasn't kumbaya

1:16:19Pat McAfee:over there in oxford it was a contentious thing and a can uh van a sprinter van a uh a conversion van was just rolling through fields to get up here. You got chaos over here. You got people chanting telling you you're number one over here. You got the internet exploding. You got, I assume, some sort of escort. Then you have a conversion van with fire trucks. There wasn't no escort. Hell no. For him. Oh, yeah, you're right. There was no escort. Oh, for him there were. I'm sorry. I thought you meant for us. He had, oh, yeah, he had legions of law enforcement. Which is interesting to me. Yeah. Yeah.

1:16:56Pat McAfee:Professionals. That is. Yeah, they're still doing their job. Yeah. Yeah, unlike you. Unlike you, like. Quentin on the team. All right, now we got some questions about the meeting because there's stuff coming out, and I don't know how much you know and how much you can tell. Deebutt has a question for you.

1:17:10Adam Schefter:Yeah, I know you've been around the game for a long, long time, so it's kind of a two-parter. How often does something like this happen, and is there any truth to the plane ultimatum to the staff? Like, hey, if you don't meet me on this plane, your job's not going to be there. We all saw the report from on three sports. How much truth was there to that with Lane? All I can tell you, brother, is what he told me last night before he boarded that plane to Baton Rouge, because I actually asked him that exact question. How much of it being held up this long was due to your desire to take staff members from your offense?

1:17:51And by the way, I got home in the middle of the night and my wife goes, the first time you asked that question it made no sense and lane even went huh so i had to clarify the question so sorry i was tired he said to me darius he said to me there was never any ultimatums all right that's what he said to me so that is what i can tell you i haven't been told by anybody inside Ole Miss that there was. So all I can do is tell you what Lane told me. Now, that's his side, all right? A lot of guys went. You know, I'm keeping tabs on who went with him. Charlie Weiss went, the guy that is, you know, calling the plays of Lane's masterful offensive scheme.

1:18:40His strength coach went. His GM went. So you're talking about key personnel.

1:18:45Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Which then leads to the clause of the college football playoff, the fourth clause that says missing key components of your team that you had in the regular season, whether it was players like we had with the Florida State situation a few years back, and it says coaches as well. Coach Golding becomes the head coach. Good luck to him. Pulling for him, obviously. Great man. He's a great man. It felt like everybody loved him, And he did have, Connor pointed out on his X account, but he did have the Southern all right, you know, a lot of all right, a lot of confirmation talking, which is very positive.

1:19:23Pat McAfee:And it felt like the boys liked him, the standing ovation. And Mr. Butler here, you know, the AD, he's obviously in the middle of this entire story as well, because allegedly he was the one that was kind of talking to the team and talking to Lane about what he can do, what he can't do. I think Lane said to you, you know, like some national media maybe think it's okay for me to coach my team or whatever. He has to live here, though. He's the AD, so he views it a little bit differently. It was hard for me to ever see them letting him coach his team. And I understood like a lot of people, I haven't been around college football or in the weeds of college football as long as others have.

1:19:57Pat McAfee:Obviously, it felt like every OG college football person that I heard speak on it was like, he has to go to LSU. because they don't even have a coach right now, and they have a better recruiting class than Ole Miss has right now. So they'll have 10 five-stars. This is the number one recruit in the country. As soon as he landed. As soon as he landed. Lamar, I believe is his name. I read through his Twitter account, and this kid, he committed to LSU. He said he wants to be known as the greatest Tiger of all time. Like, that's what he wants to say. He's from Louisiana. Wants to be known as the greatest Tiger of all time, which goes to exactly what all the OGs of college football have been saying.

1:20:28Pat McAfee:It's like every recruiting class, you're going to have at least 10 five-stars, at least 10, just because they want to be an LSU Tiger. So, like, that makes your life a lot easier is what all these OGs around there are saying. And in my eyes, I'm like, well, in the modern world, do you need that? Especially with how great you are in the transfer portal, and if you have the money to back it, and you've built something so good, and you're on a playoff run, this is the greatest year you've ever had, maybe enjoy your greatest year you've ever had, and there will be more jobs in the future. That's exactly what it seemed like all the OGs were saying.

1:20:57Pat McAfee:The OGs were like, no, but they should let him coach his team, because he's a good coach, so they should enjoy this entire moment. It's like, yeah, but what about the transfer portal? What about the recruiting, the signing day? Like, there's so many things that are all happening at the same time. I don't know if LSU would have wanted him coaching at Ole Miss if push came to shove, like if they really wanted him to do that. So that just never seemed like a reality-type based opinion in my eyes, but I don't know the game is better as much as everybody else. It just goes back to the complexity of all of this too.

1:21:30First of all, when all of this first started to gain steam, maybe a month ago or so, something like that, that he would, right after BK got fired, Lane Kiffin's the guy. All right. And my opinion at that point was, OK, let's let's look at the personal piece of this. This is a man who genuinely changed his life in Oxford, Mississippi. What began, and I'll back up and just tell you kind of how he described it to me. He told me when Ole Miss won the Outback Bowl in 2021, he looked at the victory photos from that win, and he said, man, I was so fat. I looked like one of them anaconda snakes that gets the food caught in his throat.

1:22:22And he said, I know I have to make change in my life. So what began as no red meat, no sugar turned into sobriety. And with sobriety for him came tremendous fulfillment and emotional clarity. All right. So what comes from that? The human condition says when you have that fulfillment and emotional clarity, there's peace in your soul. And I don't care who you are. there's no monetary value that supersedes that now it's easy for me to sit here and say that I'm not the guy that's got what 90 or 100 million dollars staring at me all those five stars and all that tradition all right so that was my initial perspective on why I thought he should stay at Ole Miss well then you start to think about okay he's talking to coach Saban who loved LSU loved it and had he never left there probably it's full of rings probably right all right and he's talking to pete carroll and did i did i just are you guys still got me i look like a robot right

1:23:33Pat McAfee:yeah you're good this is good it's kind of artsy though we'll say it's like shot like uh oppenheimer you know i want to put a film on there yeah yeah it's good it's good what a kid filters if he would have never left lsu though bunch of rings down there you're saying he loved it he he took temptation in the league as opposed to staying there, you're saying? I see it as the prospect of potential being higher at LSU than at Ole Miss. And that's me speaking for him. So then he tells me last night, all right, I talked to Pete Carroll, who said to me, your dad would tell you to take this job. Your dad would tell you to take this shot.

1:24:16and I think he said it well after the Egg Bowl win. This is such an incredible opportunity to be wanted by LSU and retained at Ole Miss where you've built this amazing thing, but that doesn't mean it's not a hard decision. It's a really hard decision because, as he told me last night, Like he loves Oxford and the people down there, you know, they have, they have every right to be upset. Every right. That's a great fan base, man. And to be in this moment where you feel like you have this lightning in a bottle with Trinidad playing so well with just, just their, their offense is incredible. Pete had the defense playing at a high level.

1:25:07and now he's going to be the man that's leading them into the college football playoff.

1:25:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, and who knows how much they're going to be docked. Yeah, like that is the – it's really scary to think about. And I understand the anger coming from the Ole Miss fans. And, you know, who knows if any other jobs would have been available down the road after they figure out the whole CFP calendar. Lane having to be the one, you know, that kind of has to take this head on is wild. You see any changes coming? Has there been any chatter you think about that that you've been hearing? obviously you talked to both sides in this situation yeah in terms of the calendar yeah how do they change that yeah what do you think i i don't know but this is an opinion this is not a report okay journalist hat off you look at pundit hat on i think i think you look at this and when you have people like coach saban who has been you know sitting right beside you patty on college game day being adamant that this is a broken calendar and nobody knows what he's talking about more than coach does all right and then i've seen folks like david pollock who his i respect his opinion to the most esteemed level having that opinion i think that it will definitely i will say it should i think it should be looked at now i will say this to you too i've had conversations with other coaches in the last, what time is it?

1:26:341.30 Eastern? Whenever I was hauling ass from Oxford to the Memphis airport last night to try to get home, I talked to a couple of sitting head coaches that were not in a position where their job was changing. Their opinion was that only affects 10 or 12 universities a year. And for those of those those coaches that are entrenched it get this current calendar gives them the opportunity to know exactly who their team is when they get to spring practice and then when they get to june and beyond which i found to be interesting because i'll be honest i was a little ignorant why this was such a huge deal that's why i had these conversations with these coaches yeah it's

1:27:21Pat McAfee:uh it's fascinating because that number is going to far outnumber the group that is worried about it every single time so whenever push comes to shove whose vote matters this nflpa stuff yeah nflpa stuff the only reason why i'm comparing that is because you hear like a lot of the ogs the guys who make all the money well the majority of the players are like the bottom you know two-thirds of the roster that are kind of on turnover so the nflpa almost like takes their side on things and all the ogs are like excuse me this is not how this actually goes but it's better for the majority the majority of these college football teams are like yeah we would like more time with our team to get into training camp to get into the season.

1:27:55Pat McAfee:But that's why there's a pitch of, I think, like summer leading into training camp for everybody. But who knows who will outnumber who in the vote. If I were whoever makes that decision, is that the NCAA? Who makes that decision, NCAA? Good question. I don't know that answer. That's part of the problem. But whoever that is, okay, whoever that group of people is, they should get in a room with Nick Saban, with Matt Brown, with these guys there you see on the screen. I just thought that was well said by Coach, right? And so it needs to be resolved where this doesn't happen again, at least in my estimation, because you put so many schools in a unique situation, all right?

1:28:50Everybody was waiting on Lane. Florida was waiting on Lane. LSU was waiting on Lane. Ole Miss was waiting on Lane. Auburn, all these schools were waiting to see who did what and thereby what coaches were available for them to hire. and as the you saw as the lane to LSU narrative got stronger and stronger and stronger to the point that all of us who were trying to break this story realized it okay he's going to LSU that's when all the dominoes started to fall right Silverfield goes to Arkansas Sumrall goes to Florida um what am I forgetting here goes to Auburn on and on right tomorrow and it all happened

1:29:32Adam Schefter:Jim Ward of Colorado State.

1:29:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, Jim Ward of Colorado State happened before all this happened. Turns out that was out of the conversation. I'm not sure that that was really part of this equation. Oh, really? Are you sure? That would have been a big comment over there. That's crazy. All right, Marty, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for covering it all, and thank you for giving us the inside scoop on how it all went down from your perspective. The two helmets over your shoulders, class. That's why you're award-winning. Driving the van through fields over roads. I used my NASCAR experience, man. And I just said, you know what, boys?

1:30:04What's the line about if you ain't first or last? Oh, yeah. Exactly. Would have made the Intimidator proud. Yeah, he certainly would. America. Three forever, baby. Let's go. Love you, boys. You're first class. I love all of you. You too, Laysha, Jim and Morris Smith.

1:30:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, Marty. AJ, your takeaway from that conversation with Marty right there? I mean, I think we all thought that Lane was gone from the jump. I guess we said it last. I don't know what you were thinking. You speak to him more than any of us, but I thought he was definitely leaving. I thought it played out a little longer than I thought. I thought we'd have a little more clarity earlier on. But also, did Ole Miss, were they willing to match his contract that he got from LSU? I don't know. That's all the information that I assume will kind of unfold or will kind of discover here over the next couple days or weeks as we lead up.

1:30:53Pat McAfee:We assume that it was all pretty similar, which is why it probably took so long to kind of get everything done because if it wasn't, I think that would be leaked immediately. Like LSU has far outbid Ole Miss, which is exactly the story of why you go to LSU as opposed to Ole Miss. That was never really a part of the stories that were being talked about, not that I know. And I think to your point, I was kind of hoping he would just stay at Ole Miss. I was hoping for one thing, with everybody in the college football world telling me that another thing was going to happen. So like everybody that I knew in the college football world that I'm like, hey, quick question, why is this happening?

1:31:28Pat McAfee:Because, you know, these people, 30, 40 years, literally entrenched in it deep, deep, deep. Why are 50 years actually some of them, why is this being talked about the way it is? And then it's just like a bang, bam, boom, boom. And then there's like, here's an example of somebody sticking around whenever their coaching window was hot and they decided not to kind of strike when the iron was hot. This is what they ended up having happen to them. This is this, this is this, this is this. And they're already saying this about him. If he was to lose the game, think about all that. So it's like they start laying out just like, Throughout the history of college ball, this is a move that is made by a coach in Lane Kiffin's world.

1:32:03Pat McAfee:But I was just hoping because it's a different college football now. It's more of a business. It's more of a build your team through transfer portal. And he's been great at that. And he's so close with this team. Coach Saban talks about that a lot on the show when he comes on on Friday. It's not like the regional situation to where, hey, if you grew up a certain place, you're going to this school. I think it's much more national recruiting as far as obviously transfer portal and NIL. Like, guys aren't as tied, I think, to their, like, hometown school. And I don't want to take a shot at Oregon high school football, okay?

1:32:33Pat McAfee:We think Oregon's going to be good, right? Yeah. We think Oregon's good.

1:32:38Adam Schefter:That's part of it, though. I know it is a different landscape, and we're still kind of early into it, but who have been the last ten national champions? Like, what team? Like, we have good stories. We have teams that go on runs, but Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia. Destination jobs. How many destination jobs are there, D-Bot, where you wouldn't leave? Yeah. There's only so many destination jobs where it's like, hey, you can't get pried away from a bigger school. Yeah, so I saw an argument saying, hey, you could be the only coach that did this or the first coach that did this at Ole Miss as opposed to the fourth or fifth coach that had a great run at LSU.

1:33:17Adam Schefter:But if you're a coach, you have that opportunity to coach at the highest level. Most coaches, they want to coach the best players. Like, you coach in the NFL, you're going to get an opportunity to coach the best players. Draft, free agency. In college, you don't necessarily have that chance at every place. Yeah, Texas Tech, Oregon, like, all these places, you're going to have an opportunity. But if you go Ohio State, like, you're going to get that chance. You go to LSU, you go to some of these – like, LSU is not only that you're in Louisiana, but you're also the big dog in Louisiana. Like, there is no other competition.

1:33:46Adam Schefter:If you're in Florida, if you're in Miami, you got to do it at Florida State. You got to do it with Florida. You got to do that every year. If you're at LSU, you are the big dog in the hotbed. You're going to have the resources, the support. It's just tough not to do that.

1:33:59Pat McAfee:And that kid, number one recruiter, I want to be the best Tiger of all time. I don't care who's the coach. I would like to be the best Tiger of all time. I guess what the OGs of college football say, it's a lot easier to sleep at night whenever you know that you're going to get recruits that are very, very good, strictly because of their love of LSU or their family or their neighborhood or the community, wherever they're from, is just an LSU community as opposed to at Ole Miss or maybe any other job that's out there. That might be like one of the biggest perks of LSU is like a loyalty to being a Tiger and everything like that.

1:34:36Pat McAfee:So if you listen to the OGs of college football talk, they say this was going to happen. You know, life gets better. If the money's the same, your recruiting's going to be better. But it's like, it would have been sweet if Lane would have left. Would have been so sweet. That would have been a cool... And not have everyone hate you again. Yeah. Yeah. And also, what if he win? It would have been sweet to win, but what if he loses, like, three out of the first seven next year? And then you're like, okay, man, you're going to LSU. He has to win multiple national championships at LSU to separate himself.

1:35:06Because, like, sure, he can go and win one. How quick, too? But a lot of guys have already done that. And then look what happens to guys once they leave LSU. Is Coach O doing anything? Nope. Les Miles, he's not doing it. Brian Kelly's never going to coach again because of how it went at LSU. Like, we're talking about, hey, you win a national championship here, immortalized Ole Miss. LSU, you win a national championship, yeah, you're supposed to. They were saying – there were fans at the FBO when he landed in LSU saying, shit, we're never going to lose again. Like, if they lose a game, people are going to lose their minds.

1:35:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's the pressure coming with one of those jobs that you talk about. And the LSU plays at Ole Miss, and Lane has already posted on his IG story some popcorn. I'm sure that is going to be electrifying, just like whenever he went back into Tennessee as the head coach of Ole Miss. Crazy stuff. Ole Miss feels like they got their guy in golding. Feels like they're fully committed, which is awesome. And they have a shot at the college football playoff and doing something special that they've never done there before. Now, let's go to some overreactions, shall we? Ladies and gentlemen, this is what these Mondays are all about.

1:36:08Pat McAfee:hearing from the fans about how they feel about their respective teams i put out a tweet you know on monday mornings i say good morning beautiful people we've arrived at another fantastic overreaction monday i would like to hear your thoughts go ahead and use the hashtag i don't want to overreact but and let it out and uh the best ones will make the show this first one is about lane kiffin this is from chase at chase on x you can find me on x i'm chase hashtag i don't State University is returning to the pinnacle of college football. Somebody get Coach Kiffin a purple visor ASAP because this amount of Louisiana aura is unheard of in the state.

1:36:47Pat McAfee:With the loudest stadium in the country and five stars falling out of trees, Lane Kiffin could become the student who surpasses his master, Nick Saban. Hashtag Lane Train. Hashtag Suck That T-D-B. They're loving it down there at LSU. You know, that's the opposite side of the coin, AJ. You know, we see the middle fingers flying and they get the hell out of here. Then we see him laying down there, dap up, and then he's driving outside. And they're like, welcome home. Welcome home down there. That's college football to a tee. But it kind of goes to what we're saying. They're going to be expecting to win a lot quickly, AJ.

1:37:23Yeah, that's what I asked her. Like, how quickly does he have to at least, like, get to the national championship game? Like, early on. We know that. But that's the thing. Like, you want the biggest job. He understands what he's signing up for. He understands the deal. Even though I heard, I don't know if it's true or not, that his buyout might be bigger or as big as Brian Kelly's. I mean, that's an interesting situation there with all they have going on. But, yeah, you've got to win. You've got to win every single game pretty much.

1:37:44Pat McAfee:Well, Governor Jeff Langer didn't know that Lane Kiffin was potentially available. Did we know Lane Kiffin was going to be available? This will never happen again. We're doing incentive bait. The reason why you get any job is because you're so good. We'll prove it. We'll give you all the money in the world you were able to win these games. Have we seen the details? Jimmy Sexton's on that deal. So let's just – I've seen it, yeah. I think it's safe to assume those things. I think we know.

1:38:07Adam Schefter:Do you trust Jimmy going into that negotiation?

1:38:10Pat McAfee:I think Jimmy Sexton should go down as one of the greatest businessmen in the history of America, I would say. Big good looks. It's incentive-based, a million dollars per win. I think that's what it is. Well, he's also getting money. I believe there's been reports, and that would be Jimmy Sexton football. You're picking up Ole Miss's contract, right? And then we're – well, if that Ole Miss football team wins, they're not. Thank you. That's incentive-based. That's my team. That's why the bio. Yeah, we got to do with him. Yeah, he's still the head coach at Ole Miss football on X, although he's changed his entire thing.

1:38:38Pat McAfee:I mean, what a fascinating situation. And the Big Deluxe is going to get to the bottom of it for sure, no questions asked. His name's getting mentioned a lot.

1:38:45Adam Schefter:Yeah.

1:38:46Pat McAfee:His name's getting mentioned a lot. I want to let you know, he is. Yeah. He's that dude. He's good at his job. He is a dog. He's an absolute dog. You know, there were some reports going on about how Jimmy Sexton would never let one of his clients go to LSU because of what's happening between Brian Kelly and LSU. And Brian Kelly is not repped by Jimmy Sexton, even though he was initially referred to as if he was his particular agent. Jimmy Sexton represents a lot of coaches. Jimmy Sexton is an absolute beast. He is a monster in the college football world. But the conversation was basically like, hey, this next deal is not going to be whatever.

1:39:20Pat McAfee:It's not going to be whatever. And Jimmy Sexton goes in there and says, yeah, it is. If you'd like to win, that's how it's going to be. and Jimmy Sexton said that that situation with Brian Kelly and the lawsuit and everything like that, this is me speaking, not Jimmy Sexton speaking. Jimmy Sexton would never let that get to that point. No. Yeah, that thing would have been, all right, let's go. All right, all right, all right, let's go. We all got business to take to because Jimmy Sexton's going to do business with these schools. He's going to do business. Well, this is how these agents work. People are just finding out that some agents who are very, very, very, very good represent a lot of people in a similar field.

1:39:54Pat McAfee:It's like, it's not just college football where this is happening. there's weapons in a lot of different worlds that are kind of moving and shaking and they got the backup too, you know, and it's a different price. Now it's a whole different conversation in there and, you know, you do everything right for the client and all that, but Jimmy Sexton's a weapon and I would assume him and Jeff Landry. I hope they film that. I hope they film that. I hope. Cause how many Gator hunts do you think the governor Jeff Landry? I'll give you three Gator hunts. That's a lot of Gator hunts. Imagine governor Jeff Landry in that yoga.

1:40:23He's going to find like a yoga class for, for, for Lane. And can you imagine him? He's going to be there with them.

1:40:28Pat McAfee:I want to mock live Tiger on the sideline. And Lane, you want Tiger? Absolutely. Lane might ride out on a Tiger. For sure. I still wish he would have stayed at Ole Miss. For sure. Just another. I mean, you're this close right now. I mean, it is crazy that they're about to go into the playoffs and their entire offensive status is gone. It's insane. And also, it's insane that this decision had to be made. When did that call in place? I mean, maybe. Their strength coach left, too. I mean, yeah. But they've got a backup strength coach. Three sets of 12. Thanks, guys. Thanks, man. Winned Dad and Lacey, too.

1:41:06I mean, maybe it's just me, but I'm assuming they're on the first thing smoking once this season's over. Where? To LSU. If they like Lane still.

1:41:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, reports were that. I guess it was not great with the way it all acts because he didn't talk to the team, but then there was reports he was told not to talk to the team. Crazy situation. Let's go to another overreaction, shall we, around the football. world. This one's from Nick Moraldo. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but these are my top choices for an ex-head coach at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Top left there, a man who won a gold medal with a broken freaking neck from Mount Lebanon in Pittsburgh, Kurt Angle. And he obviously relies on the three I's. Intensity, integrity, and intelligence.

1:41:47Three things we don't have right now. And he

1:41:52Pat McAfee:would wear, obviously, the singlet. Yeah, the singlet every single week. And he is still that jacked. Okay, that is Kurt Angle football. Dan Orlovsky, top right corner. It does appear, this AI. I don't know how accurate. That's who you were talking about there, Coach Dan O? Yeah, Dan puts his name out there for any other job, so I might as well just throw him in there too. How do you think him and Pittsburgh would do? Pretty good? Oh, we'd love him. He's so smart. He's got all the X's and O's. He'd bring the eye candy, the innovative offense that we've been craving. Same way he said yesterday, even though he shouldn't, he would take Pittsburghese over in a second.

1:42:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, and maybe we'd hear yesterday coming out of his mouth as he tried to beat Pittsburgh. So maybe that would be good for society. But also, he knows. They don't know. You know who else knows? Debo. Is that an actual photo of him? It probably is, right? It would be. Yeah, actually, I asked AI to make him more jacked. This is the second or third draft because it just didn't do him justice in the first one. So we told him, hey, you got to beef this up a little bit. He'll be jacked forever. And speaking of forever, Snoop Dogg. He's going to live forever and be famous forever. Loves Pittsburgh Steelers.

1:42:51Pat McAfee:He has a bunch of baby snoops that have come through his league who are now in the NFL. I think he's actually a coach, an actual football coach. Not bad there. Nobody's really thinking of Snoop Dogg to be the next coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers if they were able to move or were moving on. Good point. He can connect the older generation of fans with this young talent that he can relate to. That's right. The young talent is what we're looking for, aren't we? Pittsburgh Steelers. I hadn't thought about Debo.

1:43:14Adam Schefter:They can all do different. It's so bad. Dan O, offense. I'm going to put Debo on my list. Debo, defense.

1:43:20Pat McAfee:Well, it's Kurt doing. Kurt's leading strength. That's strength conditioning all day.

1:43:24Adam Schefter:And Snoop kind of. Vibes. Head coach. I guess the head coach, yeah. So was you right there. Well, he was streets ahead, too. You remember a couple years ago, he was basically like, Todd Haley fucking sucks. Get this guy out of here. I remember Snoop doing that like week in, week out. So this is, you know, this is nothing new for Snoop. He's ready to hop in there. Your voice there kind of reminded me of somebody. You did forget somebody on there, Nick.

1:43:43Pat McAfee:I love, yeah. Good call. Everybody's talking about Juco champion. Everybody's talking about it. It's certainly been brought up a couple times in the office. Hope you're good, man. Always fighting. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This one is from FarquadPirateCane. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Bryce Young just carved up the Rams like a Thanksgiving turkey, and now the only thing getting stuck this holiday season is the rest of the NFC South. Bryce is up, son. Hashtag, keep pounding. This Carolina Panthers team's real good football team. AJ, that's not an overreaction.

1:44:20Pat McAfee:They're a good football team down there in the NFC South. Yeah, don't you think people – I mean, I think this one over the Rams obviously maybe solidified that a little bit to where people will take them seriously. I mean, I think their defense, we know what they were able to do. And Bryce Young, I mean, I think he continues to defy. Everyone just assumes, like, I don't know, because he got benched for a little while, because he's not as big as these other dudes, that maybe he's not as good. But, man, he absolutely performed, especially when it matters. Like, he's not scared of the moment. What do you think ceiling is this season, D-Butt, for this Carolina Panthers team?

1:44:50Pat McAfee:And what do you think they're thinking going into next year? They're thinking of it all, right? I think that is where the Carolina Panthers fans' mindsets are at.

1:44:56Adam Schefter:Yeah, you got, I mean, the fan base, you got a new regime there pretty much. You got a young quarterback who's playing himself into another contract for sure, so he's going to be the guy. It's still week to week. It's still such a young team, but they're finding ways to win. But every week we go into the game, we don't know what Carolina team we're going to get. and then everybody was crowning the Rams going into this one. And they're missing Morick, who got suspended, and Mr. JC, who got banged up. So for him to come out and get the home crowd was in it, for T-Mac making big plays. You talked about Bryce Young making big plays in the biggest moment.

1:45:31Adam Schefter:Like, there were some big fourth downs where Coker, he hit Coker deep, he hit McMillan deep, like making big-time plays, you know, dropping his nuts at the biggest moments in the game. That's what you want to see from your young quarterback. And then the other guys, Derrick Brown right there with the game, saving strip sack. And this is one of those big dots right here on the big down the distance right across the middle of the field. This is what you want to see from your quarterback, making big-time plays in high-leverage situations, whether we're shitty. It was like all those different things.

1:45:56Adam Schefter:That's when you kind of find out who you are as a team.

1:45:58Pat McAfee:The Panthers are a good football team. It's a good football team. A good football team. They have a chance to be a good football team. They can win a playoff game this year. They have a chance to be great. Okay.

1:46:04Adam Schefter:Playoff game. They can win a playoff game this year. Well, I think that is why people still don't know, because it's fresh in your mind like a couple weeks ago when they get beat 40-9 to the Bills. and it's just like these guys are so unserious. They suck. And then they turn around and beat the Packers at Lambeau. And then they're just coming off that Monday night where it's like, how many opportunities? And, you know, the Niners didn't play great, but, like, it's just like, okay, the Panthers are a year or two away, and then they turn around and beat the Rams. So it's tough. It's up in the air every week.

1:46:34But if they start to put things together a little bit, I think you are thinking next year for sure. Like, we're the best team in the NFC South.

1:46:40Pat McAfee:I'm happy for the Carolina Panthers fans. They've been through a lot, Donner. They've been through a lot, Donner. Both the MLS team, the NFL team. People forget how bad it got, I think, for a while. It was bad. So bad. $2 tickets. I think they were actually paying people. Homeless people were going, and then they were worried they were going to have to pay taxes on how much they were getting paid to go to those games. That's what the homeless people were worried about. They said, do I go to H &R Block here? What happens? Stopped the construction halfway through. Oh, my God, they bankrupted a ton.

1:47:14Yeah. Bryce got bitch. Bryce got bitch. He got friends. Andy Dalton. Third-day night football game against the Falcons where it was just downpouring. I think the final score was like 6-3 or 3-0. Everyone was just like, you know what, enough of this.

1:47:27Pat McAfee:And then that store has the sign that you can change the words on it. It basically says, yeah, David Tepper is ass cheeks, bruh. And he walks in. Who's doing that? Who has the thing? That's me. smacks his head off, turns around and leaves. Bryce Young with his gigantic backpack. Oh my god, he looked like he was in 9th, 10th grade. That was the low point. Thielen talking about how sweet it was because they had a golf simulator and didn't really mention anything else. He was just like, we have a golf simulator here. On that note, he has requested his release and it has been granted he has now been released from the Minnesota Vikings.

1:48:02Pat McAfee:Carolina Panthers picked up a couple draft picks. Everything's kind of going in the Carolina Panthers. No golf simulator. in Minnesota. We'd like to say congratulations. They might. We don't know if anybody's playing. It doesn't seem like there are any happiness over there right now. Congrats to Carolina Panthers. Panthers are 6-0 against the spread after a loss. 4-2 straight up. They are a good bounce back team. And but after a win? Not good. Oh no. That's the thing. They can't handle success. They're still kind of learning. That's why next year should be a real problem. Maybe people talk about them next year how people were talking about the Broncos going into this year.

1:48:32Pat McAfee:You know, everybody was kind of expecting the Broncos to be good because of what they thought they could be at the end of last season. especially with how good their defense is. It's like Panthers just did some stuff to Matthew Stafford and the Rams that we had not seen in a long time. And when Sean McVay was asked about it afterwards, Sean McVay was basically like, hey, Carolina Panthers is a good football team. I think they have the two biggest spread outright wins of the season, 13 and a half. That one was nine and a half. It's like this team on the up and right. Congrats, Carolina people. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we?

1:49:01Pat McAfee:This one's from Dustin Hundley at DH Sports Fan. He likes them all. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Colts are done. Oh, no. It was a fun first two months of the season, but reality is set in and the lead in the division is gone. Now we have to go to Clientown next week to battle for the lead and we all know how that's going to go. Go ahead and hang the first half of the 2025 season AFC South Division winners banner and be done with it. Hey, Dustin, making a lot of valid points, but I don't like the way you're toning this entire thing. Colts are in a bad spot. I mean, I'm just going to say it.

1:49:37Pat McAfee:Now, Houston Texans, number one defense in the NFL. Obviously, they are a good football team. We were supposed to be a great football team, though, in the past couple weeks. It hasn't been the case. Jonathan Taylor had a couple electrifying runs, but at the beginning of the season, obviously, it was every single time he touched the ball, he was having an electrifying run. Danny Dimes, a big part of his game, even though people don't really want to give him the credit for it, is his mobility ability, and now he has a fractured fibula. Okay. Hairline. Oh, okay. Shefty said hair. Oh, you know, it's fine.

1:50:09Hairline.

1:50:09Pat McAfee:It's just one of the most painful things that you can possibly have. So he's not going to be able to run as much, which is a huge part of it. And our defense, you know, without the Forrest Buckner playing, it's been certainly something. Sauce Gardner is going to be out for the next month. I mean, it is gloomy days for the Indianapolis Colts. I think we'll be talking to CJ Stroud here in about 10 minutes or so. Can't wait to hear his thoughts on how the Colts are kind of doing and the new name for the Loud House, which I certainly do not love. But with the Colts and where we're at right now, I don't think you can judge them because we don't know what they're going to be.

1:50:42Pat McAfee:We have no idea what they're going to be. Massive games on their minds. The refs screwed us against the Texans. There's no doubt about that. The refs were certainly not on our side. There was a lot of bogus calls. That is the loudest I've ever heard the Loud House all decide that the refs were ass because the refs were ass. And then you get on the Internet, everybody's saying the refs were ass and J.J. Watt, Houston Texans' Bull Ring of Honor member, says that was ass. So everybody says that the refs were ass. They certainly were ass, okay? So I'm not going to say that that isn't certainly a part of it, but we lose to the Texans.

1:51:13Pat McAfee:Texans are getting very good right now. Jacksonville Jaguars playing very good football right now. We lost our last two after winning all of our first ones. Feels like there's a couple different trends happening in the AFC South, and I don't like it. AFC South, it just means more, and right now it feels like we are less and everybody else is more, D-Bud.

1:51:31Adam Schefter:Yeah, and that's a tough stretch we got there. But, I mean, if you ask me before the season, going into week 14, sitting at 8-4, like, I'm not worried. We're in a good spot. We still got a chance. We control our entire destiny. It's on the quarterback. You know, how healthy is he going to be with the hairline fracture? You know, he's fine running straight forward, but the lateral movement is one thing. You got to do that. What's wrong, Iso? You got to do that in football every play. But kind of concerned about that. Then the Sauce Gardner thing. Shefty basically said he's going to be put on IR, so that's like a playoff return.

1:52:02Adam Schefter:That's what it sounds like to me. But I think we can figure it out. I mean, there are dogs in every single one of those games.

1:52:06Pat McAfee:Well, yeah, that's what it's like to be. We like that, especially with how the dogs did this past weekend. I don't think so. Down there in Jacksonville. Niners-Jags. Minus one and a half. You'll be. At this week? Yeah. Wow. Like that's what we're talking about in client time, going down to Duval. Take on a very good Jacksonville Jaguars team. The AFC South is a problem. Okay, it is a problem.

1:52:27Adam Schefter:I don't trust Trevor Lord.

1:52:28Pat McAfee:And everybody can be in there. We got Jags twice, Houston Texans another time. I mean, we'll see how it all goes. All right. I feel like we really hit everything in these first two hours of the program live here on ESPN. CJ Stroud will be joining us in about 10 minutes or so. He's not joining us. He is joining us. He'll be joining us in about two minutes. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Nice. Okay, so we'll be talking to CJ Stroud here in about two minutes or so. Okay. This show on ESPN ends in about a minute or so. We'll also make our picks for tonight, okay? And those picks are going to be good because A.J.

1:53:01Pat McAfee:is seeing it right now. A.J. is seeing the board right now. Four and two. Okay. On the six games that we picked. Oh, both. So are you. Oh, how about that? Oh, wow. Okay, so we're doing pretty good here, pal. Now, there might have been a chance that –

1:53:15Adam Schefter:Make your pick now. Make your pick now.

1:53:17Pat McAfee:A.J., who do you like?

1:53:19Adam Schefter:Patriots. I'm going to pay first.

1:53:22Pat McAfee:I like the Patriots as well. We'll take another time. I'm okay with it. Commander should have done the same thing. Commander should have done the same thing. You know, they made the right decision for ball, which I certainly appreciate, but I'll do it. And we will continue on ESPN +, YouTube, Disney +, X, you name it, TikTok Live. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're back tomorrow. Goodbye. All right, we made our picks. I like what we did. I like what we did here. What's the line again? Seven if you're taking the Patriots. Seven and a half if you want the Giants.

1:53:52Pat McAfee:On that note about lines, I believe ESPN bet.

1:54:01Oh, really?

1:54:16It's over. It feels like we... The king is dead! They didn't deserve taps.

1:54:24Pat McAfee:I agree. That's why we stopped it. And that was not a... That was a good effort, I guess. Thank God. That sucked. No. Gee, Luis. I mean, it wasn't great. I mean, it obviously didn't work out well for either party, seemingly. We'd like to wish everybody good luck in that thing. Good luck, everybody. I hope I'll still be able to be seeing green somewhere. Well, we're not green. We'll certainly be giving us some more money okay with his picks. We know that's right. P-Bot, relax, please. What are you doing? Buckled up.

1:54:55Adam Schefter:What happened? It caught me a couple...

1:54:58Pat McAfee:Seeing green, bruh. We are seeing green. Always. We appreciate Greeny dabbling in the... For sure. They hit it a lot of times. Did it? Come on, man. Is the other guy still going to have specialties on the book? He needs to. Hey, listen, he just signed a new deal, right? Congrats, our guy. Head to the other book. Love you, other guy. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who can sleep soundly knowing that the Ohio State Buckeyes beat that team from up north. Yeah, and also he came to Indianapolis and beat the team from Indy. Ladies and gentlemen, the starting quarterback for the Houston Texans, team that can win the AFC South yet again, C.J.

1:55:43Pat McAfee:Stroud. Yeah, C.J.! So funny. What's up, y 'all? How are you doing, dude? Great to see you back on a football field yesterday, man. You felt good to be back out there. Looked like you were spinning the ball just fine. Looked like you hadn't lost a fucking thing. You felt really good out there yesterday, CJ? Yeah, I knocked off a little rest, man. You know, I had fun, bro. Just being out there playing, you know, this sport that I love to play, man. So I had a great time. And, you know, it was good to see you there. And, you know, and your colors and everything. So it was fun. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

1:56:13Pat McAfee:Well, it was a great time to be there. You know, my daughter's first game. She had a blast. She was very excited to go watch this Indianapolis Colts team take on, you know, the AFC South rival Houston Texans. And we'll lie to her whenever she's older. She'll say that we won that game, but she'll probably look up the stats and say, CJ Stroud doesn't really do that in Indianapolis. Let's talk about your team. You obviously coming back was a big part of the storyline. You missed three weeks, right? Was there questions? Like, that felt like a long time. We were very worried. And I assume you were as well in the entire process.

1:56:43Pat McAfee:Was there planning for when you would come back? When was that kind of all being talked about? And did you just say immediately, you know what, I'll come back Indianapolis and ruin their lives? Was that a part of it? No, it was really just a health precaution. You know, it's your brain. So, I mean, I'm not going to play around with that and take every precaution and just listen to the doctors and, you know, our officials here to, you know, get the right feedback. But it's something that you really can't, like, have a timetable for. Or if you hurt your wrist or your ankle or something, God forbid, that's a time table.

1:57:15You can time stamp that. Something with your brain, you've got to really just take precaution and making sure that you're fully healthy before you go out there. So I thought our team did a great job with that. I'm just grateful to be back and be healthy.

1:57:27Pat McAfee:Okay, we're grateful that you're back too. You're a special talent, dude. And while you were out and where your team is at now, you guys are poised to go on a playoff run, big-time run. Obviously, the defense, number one in the league, offensively watching you spin it. There was a couple times, you can't see shit. I know you can't because where I'm sitting, I'm looking right where you're looking. Hand in face, yeah, right. Let me go ahead. 30 yards, this thing just levitates, doesn't even drop, right into a dime. You're outstanding, okay? You are absolutely outstanding. The offense is awesome as well.

1:57:57Pat McAfee:What is the messaging behind the scenes for you guys? Everything's available. Everything's possible. Nobody's really talking about the Houston Texans at all, I don't think, throughout this entire season. What is your guys' thoughts on how this season can be and where you are right now? Yeah, of course, you know, we didn't start off, you know, the way we wanted to. You know, we lost, you know, five games, you know, in between one score. But I think, you know, other than, you know, looking down on ourselves about it, you know, it was a positive, you know, to fix some issues. And then we start winning these close games against these really good teams.

1:58:26You know, we'll be able to, you know, take the next leap to, you know, get to where we want to go, and that's the playoffs, and then, you know, go from there. So, you know, I thought, you know, yesterday was a really good, start for us, you know, at least for me coming back. And I thought, you know, we answered the bell against a really, you know, really good team with the Colts there, you know, who have really good defense and, you know, been playing really well offensively. But like you said, our defense, man, has, you know, been, you know, a rock and, you know, just the best in the league from, you know, I practice against them, so I know how hard it is to go against them.

1:58:57But, yeah, I think, you know, if we can be able to play confident football in all three phases, you know, we'll be able to win a lot of games.

1:59:02Pat McAfee:You guys get a tough win, a tough environment, and that's a really good team. Do you see what they're doing on the Internet? Do you see what they're doing? Did you see the picture? No, I'm not on there. Did you see this? I don't like this at all. That's hilarious. It's called the Loud House, CJ. It's not the Stroud House. I don't like that they're doing this. This is what's happening on the internet right now. You said you're not on the internet. I asked X to delete it. Just know that I'm trying to clean that up. Do they do it? Do they do it? I don't know if they got around to it yet. I'm not happy about it.

1:59:33Pat McAfee:But it does feel like you play great football there every time. It's an honor to watch it. and geez louise houston texans all the way back go ahead aj yeah cj obviously it's actually about the stroud house that we just saw this picture what is it about like you seem to play very well inside the confines of lucas oil what is it about that you have good sight lines like a good bit like what is it seems like you just uh now obviously you play well all the time but whenever you come into the uh the loud house as pat likes to call it you seem to do uh you know take it to another level it's the name of the place um yeah i would just say like the level of focus you know maybe goes up a little more just because it's a divisional opponent.

2:00:11And, you know, my boy Zaire, you know, he's always mad at me. And he's always talking crazy. So, I maybe turn me up just a little bit. And so, I know he's going to hear this and he's going to hate it. But, you know, after the game, we're always cool. But during it, me and him go at it pretty good. But it's just all the competition. So, you know, I think it turns me up a little bit more. And I think, you know, my line hears it and they want to play harder. So, you know, it's just a division rival, you know, in those games. You know, you're going to be talking back and forth and, you know, having words for one another.

2:00:42And I think maybe that, you know, turns us up. But, yeah, I just try to, you know, just be focused every play, you know, go 1-0 every play and, you know, take it from there.

2:00:50Pat McAfee:Yeah. Let's let him sleep, baby. We've got to play you guys again. We've got to play you guys again. It's going to mean a lot. Let's just let CJ Strauss just go a little bit. You got this moxie about you. You know, you're duck-footed. And you go heel-toe. I was watching you walk. because you're right in front of our suite while there's a touchdown happening on the other side. You got a full set. You're by yourself. You're over there just having your time. That old lineman comes running over to you. Your walk is just that filled with aura. I mean, you are your franchise QB, brother. It is cool to watch you kind of do your thing.

2:01:21Pat McAfee:Now, let's talk about the quarterback position and everything that you've gone through this year. Go ahead, D-Butt.

2:01:25Adam Schefter:Yeah, on that note, being a franchise QB, obviously you were banged up and you had to kind of watch the game from a different perspective. You're used to being out there. What's that relationship like with Davis Mills? We call him Dougie Mills. But what's the relationship like with him off the field with you guys? That's my brother, bro. Like, he's been a really, you know, great leader for me coming into the league. I thought, you know, coming in, you know, fighting for the same position, you know, he always showed me love still. And I try to do the same. And he's made me better. I feel like I made him better.

2:01:57And, you know, we have our QB dinners that we do, you know. and we handle out his wife. You know, he's a really good friend of mine as well. And his family, you know, I meet them, you know, every time they come to the games and stuff. So, you know, that's my brother, man. I always support him, always, you know, root him on. And I just think it's funny that people ask these questions now, just, you know, because he's, you know, had, you know, some really good games. And, you know, it's something that, like, I root that on. I want – I think he's a starter in the NFL, you know, and I think, you know, he's proven that, you know, in these couple games that he's played.

2:02:28So I just think it's funny how people, you know, can try to switch the narrative to make it seem like I'm like some guy that's like, oh, no.

2:02:35Pat McAfee:I saw a photo of you in the locker room. I saw a photo of you in the locker room. Everybody was happy but you. Everybody was happy but you. I'm telling you, I've seen it with my own eyes. I'm primed. You can see one photo, but look at the whole thing. No, it's 2025, CJ. We're not doing that. I saw one frame. That guy's not happy. Still concussed, too, in that frame. Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about the lights in that entire thing. Yeah, it was a narrative, though. It was a narrative. Yeah, it's all good, man. Some things in life, you know, I try not to respond, you know, and just let my, you know, let my, you know, private life be my private life.

2:03:16And I thought, you know, me and my teammates, you know, I think they, you know, know how much of a leader I am and how much, you know, having that C on my chest means to me. And that's not when it's always good for me, you know, and that's when it's good for the team. and it's sometimes not great for me, I got to be happy because that's, you know, more important than just my selfish and my, you know, personal desires. So I'll put the team before me anytime, man. And if that's, you know, me not playing because, you know, it was a Thursday night game and I was just super happy that we got the dub and it helps me out that I get to play hopefully more ball, you know, as the season goes on.

2:03:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, but I saw a photo. Oh, yeah. I don't need to hear it. I'm happy you cleared that up, though. That's good. And Dougie knows that you're happy for him. and that locker room knows that you're happy for him. Feels like you guys have a great culture down there. On that note, Connor has a question for you. Yeah, CJ, yesterday and throughout this four-game win streak, Jaden Higgins and Woody Marks have really come alive. Two rookies, Nick Casario once again in his bag. What have you seen from them as the season has gone on, just developing as a wide receiver and a running back and their contributions to the offense during this win streak?

2:04:26Yeah, I always remember my rookie year and, like, being thrown in the fire and kind of just thinking of, like, time on task. You know, it's like some things, you know, are better when you just get thrown in the fire. You have to figure it out. And I thought, you know, they've figured it out pretty early. So, you know, Woody has been an anchor, you know, in our running game and, you know, has created a lot of, you know, big-time running plays for us. And then on top of that, you know, Higg is out there, you know, and he has a lot on his plate blocking and, you know, running routes. And I thought he's done a great job with that and, you know, clean body language.

2:04:56and, you know, it hasn't been overnight. A lot of conversation that I have with those guys, just, you know, being that I was just a rookie, you know, two years ago, you know, just shows that, you know, like I understand, you know, what they're going through. And I think the main thing is like confidence, you know, with that, being a rookie, you know, is you can keep your confidence, man. It's the same game we've been playing since we were 10, 11 years old. It's just, you know, at a different scale. So the confidence that you bring each and every day, you know, and the preparation, you know, all, you know, adds up to, you know, how you play on Sundays.

2:05:25Pat McAfee:I forget who said it, but somebody said, I was telling people that I was the best in the world about two years before I was. And that's like a perfect mindset for professional athletes, basically. Even if they're outside humble, inside there is a belief that they're fucking real. That's what separates, I think, the professionals from everybody else. The great from the good, I think, is in between the ears. Confidence is such a big part of it. Confidence comes from a lot of work, though. You don't just wake up. You've got to work your dick off.

2:05:53Adam Schefter:And once you put it out there, you know, a lot more people are going to be looking at you, waiting for your downfall. You're still waiting for your – oh, okay. That's a part of it.

2:06:02Pat McAfee:That happened to you, dude. That happened to you a little bit. You know, you got – that happened to you. That happened to me a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going – yeah. You've battled, though, which is why we appreciate the hell out of you. Now, speaking of battling, it's been a long time since the people of Ohio have had a chance to be happy. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, CJ, obviously, you know, your boots to the fire right now, trying to make it to the playoffs, but I think I saw that you called Coach Day after the game against Michigan. Obviously, you know that rivalry, how important it is more than most.

2:06:34What did you think about that game, and how happy were you to see that Coach Day finally got that Michigan monkey off his back for the first time in 2 ,191 days or whatever it was? Yeah, man, I'm just so happy for him. Somebody who I consider a brother of mine, a person who I look up to and somebody who, you know, is instilled confidence into me and, you know, made me feel like I was the greatest thing since sliced bread when I played for him. So just to see, you know, his hard work pay off, to see how much he puts in and the coaching staff, you know, to win that game, to finally get that done, man.

2:07:11I just think it's super cool for Columbus, you know, for the state of Ohio. And he just stamped himself as, you know, best coach in college football. And I've been known that. But just the mind that he has, not just offensively, but as to run a program, especially there where everything is so critical, you know, I thought he's done a great job. And you talk about class and, you know, doing it the right way and not looking ignorant or like a fool after you win because we could have did that. But to have class and, you know, to still have fun with it, though, and not disrespect anybody, you know, I thought that was super dope to see.

2:07:44And, you know, I'm just – and I'm super proud of Julian, man. Like, that dude's – that kid's a baller. You know, Cali kid and, you know, processes the game the right way, has a heck of a touch, you know, a heck of an arm. And then, you know, the beast on the outside and up front, you know, they're playing well. Then like us, they're probably best defense in the country. So I just think, you know, they're playing off cylinders. And, you know, I think everything starts with Coach Mick, though. Coach Mick is the reason why, you know, we're moving guys up front, why defense tackling the way they are, while Julian throwing that ball and the strength staff.

2:08:17So I think just think all that's coming together, you know, when you get that dug.

2:08:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, it feels like very comfortable being a dynasty, too, Ryan Day. Feels like the way he's moving, he understands what life is like at the top, never satisfied, continuing to motivate, understanding the situation. Him talking to Coach Moore afterwards when they're shaking hands, hey, we're not going to plant the flag or anything, but you need to get your guys out of here or there's going to be some shit, basically, is what Ryan Day said. We're going to win with humility. There was a stoppage of it all. And then afterwards, in his press conference, when he said, I've thought a lot about what I would say at this exact moment right now.

2:08:52Pat McAfee:I'm going to save those for another day. We are going to win with humility through it all. What do you think you would have said? I wasn't here. What do you think you would have said? 191? I had cops outside of my goddamn house. Two years because our own fans were coming after me for not winning this game. They potentially had our signals. Remember, that was the amount of things that he could pull from and what his personal life was. I think everybody that has ever met him is happy for him in this particular moment, except for Michigan people, obviously. You called him, is that right? We did hear that a little bit of a rumor.

2:09:23Pat McAfee:You called him, what was the messaging, and what was the conversation like? Yeah, I just told him how much I'm proud of him, and just to see the smile on their faces, and to finally, like you said, get that monkey off our backs was just dope. I was really just raving about the play calls. I told him about, it was a play that I ran my whole career there, that, you know, I seen them run and we scored on to Carnell. I was like, and I text Coach Key, the tight ends coach. And then when I talked to Coach Day, I was like, man, I seen where that play was. And then the one Brandon and he scored on the motion.

2:10:00I thought the motion was super cool. The timing, the get the ball snapped, you know, in the perfect element where they thought we were going to the flat and he breaks it across the face on the slant, you know, I thought it was super dope and a great play design by Coach Hart. So, man, I just – I really was marveling about, you know, the play calls. But I thought overall they played great. And, yeah, that conversation was well-need. And I talked to Coach Day in a little minute. So, I mean, it was good to see his face.

2:10:23Pat McAfee:Hell, yeah. Good to see your face too, dude. Just not in our stadium. Stop it. Enough of it. I don't like what they're doing on the internet. I don't like that. I don't like your name on our stadium. But, Jesus, you guys are really good at football. Good football, too. And it seems like you're about to be good for a long, long time. Thank you for hanging out, brother. Have a great day. Appreciate you guys, man. God bless y 'all. God bless you. God bless you, too, man. Hey, bless the Texans. All right, see you, dude. CJ Stroud. Yeah. They told us. They literally just told us, hey, he's got somewhere to be like 215.

2:10:58Pat McAfee:I like that. Yeah, probably. 215. All right, fuck this. See you. Yep, yep. That's saving. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's get to a break. On the other side, we'll cover all the stories we didn't talk about, you know, because we hit that first 15. Did you hear the first 15? They jigged up, the booze are out They finally had it Did you hear that? I did, but I also listened to Caboli and Mac do their post-game podcast too. I think Caboli said that Trey Essex called in. It was actually a beautiful show, but I believe Caboli thinks if Tom will have one more year in his deal, and he thinks they mutually part ways after next season.

2:11:33Pat McAfee:Alright. Almost there. Another season. Yep. What? That was on camera. We saw you do that.

2:11:42Adam Schefter:Oh, the winter season. Yeah.

2:11:45Pat McAfee:The jig is not up. Booze are out. Reload this next year. Run it back, Aaron Rodgers. It's similar to AQ and James Franklin. After it's done, I'm going to be very, very thankful for everything that he has done here. It's just, you know, 18 years is a long time. Long time. You got to go to college. You got to spread your wings and fly. Buy some scratch-offs. Maybe some Zins. Maybe serve in the military. Marty throwing that Zin right in the middle. I'm so fucking tired, you would not believe. How about him driving his fucking van? Those conversion vans, very readily available in the rental car department.

2:12:26Pat McAfee:We've learned. I'm in one of those at least once a weekend, I think. Great seat. The seat is like the southwest window seat. Right there next to the door. There's one right there. Always try to snag. that's where you gotta be. But you can't fit a lot of people and you can toss a lot of shit, what we have learned. Yeah. It's a big shit tosser to the back couple rows. The vehicle. I'm doing that with the cameras. Let's chase them down, boys.

2:12:51Adam Schefter:I hope he recorded some of it. I see that behind the scenes. That would be great. The crew did.

2:12:55Pat McAfee:He was driving.

2:12:57Adam Schefter:Yeah, he said.

2:12:58Pat McAfee:Fast! He was driving, texting. Yeah, driving like fucking Bo Duke, he said. He did. He said I Bo Duke'd that thing. Yep. What a legend. I didn't know we were gonna get the whole behind-the-scenes story. Did you know that when I asked the question? No. I'm glad we did. I'm glad he did. That's for sure. It was so cool. We were about two and a half minutes into that thing. I'm like, okay. We're about to learn the fucking whole thing here. And it was the biggest story. Hell yeah. By far. And Marty's just right there in the middle of fucking Oxford, Mississippi. Well, we imagine if he was there all those days and then he didn't get that interview on.

2:13:30Yeah.

2:13:31Pat McAfee:What's going on here? The hell was that? What are people doing here? What was that? What is this? high winds it sounded like. I don't know what the hell that was. Where'd that come from? Jesus, come on! I was talking about this. You guys heard something? Oh my gosh. Yeah, gale force winds or something. Maybe ice fell off the roof. Oh yeah, the sliding of the ice. I thought someone just crashed into your office. Maybe, I mean. Who knows? Especially with the way that parking lot was this morning. Bone confirmed snow falling off the roof. Bone, don't stand under it. Could have killed him. These things get dangerous.

2:14:08Pat McAfee:Yeah. You have a dome. It looks cool. It's like, hey, the dome looks cool. Sweet. Let's put some Rain-X type stuff so nothing can get trapped on that. Well, when it's freezing cold, windy, and there's moisture, there's going to be ice slates that kind of stick to the dome. And then they're going to slide. And then those things are coming right down. Projectiles. Yeah, that's scary. Just like this. Yeah, you're right, Bone. Don't be standing right. When he opens the door, he's got to sprint out to get some clearance from the building. This is just like back in the day when we were kids and there was a sniper in D.C.

2:14:39Pat McAfee:And they were telling us to walk zigzags. Did you guys get that? Or you get chased by an alligator. Same thing. They had a Jack Frost situation. I'll tell you what. I think we all beat it, so we should be pretty pumped about that. Right? Yeah, legit. Hell yeah. That was a real worry. Yeah. You are right, though. If you don't have ice melt yet, go get that son of a bitch. because I saw about 10 people slip next door. No worse way to start your day than a bruised tailbone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dropping off the kids. Yeah. Luckily, none of them were holding their kids, but I saw that and I was like, I'm holding my daughter.

2:15:15I better really kind of. Dial it in. Oh, yeah. Shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. Goddamn Kevin McAllister's house out front there.

2:15:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, you got to shuffle. The thing is, with the ice, you got to actually almost try to slip. Control the slip while you're on it, as opposed to try not to slip.

2:15:32AJ Hawk:Like a control burn.

2:15:33Pat McAfee:Exactly. It's like whenever you're white wall rafting, and there's like a rock or something you're supposed to lean towards. Go into it. Because it'll shoot you away from it. On ice, you just got to embrace the slick, the slippiness, if you will. Same if you're driving, turn into it. Bingo. And also put that thing in neutral, because drive is going to give you a little bit of power to the tires. You don't want any of that. Ain't that the truth. Drop that thing in the neutral there on the ice.

2:15:58Adam Schefter:Okay, you got a lot of range in it. So you say go into the rocks.

2:16:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, when you're whitewater rafting, yeah.

2:16:02Adam Schefter:And let that current fucking shoot you out.

2:16:04Pat McAfee:Do you know that a lot, D-Butt? I did it once, actually. I've never done it. North Carolina. Me either. I've never done it, but I've heard the metaphor a lot. You know, this is just like whenever you're whitewater river rafting. You got to lean towards the problem, actually, to get you away from the problem. You got to face this thing head on. That's where I've learned it from. I've never actually gone out there because I heard you could die. Oh, yeah. and i don't really like it depends on the category if you lean into the rock and you just bang your your head off of it then you got a helmet on bingo yeah but if you do if you do go unconscious underneath those tides i do believe that is a lot of death it's tough to breathe under there yes it's

2:16:40Adam Schefter:a high percentage death so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna live with the metaphor i'm gonna act like i did it ever seen river wild great movie helen hunt yeah what about without a paddle

2:16:52Pat McAfee:Is that Stiffler? I've seen that actually Seth Green Yes Mmhmm Dax Shepard Boom That's a good movie A little different than River Wild Yeah Yeah they both came after David Strathairn You gotta fucking run wild out there Kevin Bacon Alright Let's get to a break Remember the salt doesn't help After the ice No it's gotta come before Before the ice Yeah And if you just like Go throw a bunch of salt On top of the ice You're just gonna waste all your salt Yeah Really We paid for a double salting here today on top of the ice. You guys got a lot of ice? Do you have snow as well? Oh, yeah. Snow, there was a covering of everything, and then wind kind of changed that.

2:17:29Pat McAfee:So then there was like a tornado, a lot of winds, high winds this weekend. And then after that, there was a little precipitation, ice, just like sheets of ice, like this thick across a lot, across a lot of stuff. Very scary. Very, very scary. But it's not black ice because it doesn't blend in. You definitely see that it's ice. So you're almost like, oh, okay. You got to embrace the slick. That's right. Dying braces. There was a 100-car pileup on Terre Haute about an hour from here.

2:17:54Adam Schefter:A couple days ago? Did you see that? I saw it on the internet. Yeah. Scary. The wind. It was very windy.

2:18:00Pat McAfee:The wind with the snow, with the ice, is really quite a pfft, pfft, pfft. You know, it really gets you because it spreads it all everywhere. It's like that. What's that thing called? The Arctic blast? Yeah. Polar vortex. Polar vortex? Yep. Pittsburgh. I don't know how we live there with the snow. Grit. The hell is like this? How does anybody make it?

2:18:23Adam Schefter:Good sports team. At that time.

2:18:28Pat McAfee:Renegade used to come on in a car when you're going up a hill like this. This is what's happening. The car in front of you made it three-quarters of the way, and then dumbass comes down. They're on the side. You loser. My turn. Oh, mama. That's what's happening

2:18:54Pat McAfee:Idiot Next person Two wheel drive car Let me fucking go ahead And give this a go Gotta give it a good run Full speed Right back That's That's That's what Renegade Used to help people get through Now they're booing it In fourth quarter When a defense on a field Sad

2:19:09Adam Schefter:Good old days Oh Yeah Should have done We ran them First time First time it's been booed

2:19:17Pat McAfee:There might have been a lack of response maybe not as enthused a couple times but I don't think just an open nope this team doesn't deserve this Boo! Fuck it right again? Yeah right dude

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2:20:25Pat McAfee:Football! He's magical. That's A.J. Hawk. And congrats to him and he's Ohio State Buckeye. Hey! A.J., tell me how you feel about this Ohio State Buckeye team. Maybe one of the most dominating runs a college football team has ever had. They roll into the Big Ten Championship this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana. to take on the Indiana Hoosiers, who haven't won a conference championship since like 1967 or something like that in football. Obviously, it takes place in the state in which they represent. There's Hoosiers fans everywhere. Buckeyes fans are insane. Should be a magical weekend. How do you feel about your Buckeyes, A.J.

2:21:05Pat McAfee:Hawk? I feel pretty good about where they are. I mean, obviously, we knew they had to go up to Ann Arbor and win a tough one. I mean, the views and the clips from this game will be shown forever. Obviously, the snowfall and what Brutus was doing on the sideline in the end zone was awesome. I think it'll be one of those games we look at years down the road that they took care of business. But he had a big test with Kurt Cignetti and the old Indiana Hoosiers. I think it's going to be an awesome 1-2 matchup. I wish you would be there and see the hoopla with the game day set. But I'm sure you'll get there later on in the playoffs, hopefully.

2:21:37Pat McAfee:Are you going to come over for the game or no? I don't know yet. I'm trying to figure that out. We'll get you a bird. Come over. We're going to be there. We're going to go to it. Are you? Yeah. You're going? Yeah, I think it's going to be a fucking. I can't wait. My expectation is this is going to be an insane environment. Like, I think it's going to be an outrageous environment because Hoosiers fans, good fans, they only get a chance to do it for basketball games, though, for a long time. You know, obviously, they've shown that they will be football fans. They are football people, naturally. In Lucas Oil, which a lot of Hoosiers would call their own home, you know.

2:22:09Pat McAfee:And then Ohio State Buckeye fans always travel, always very loud. I mean, it should be electrifying in the city of Indianapolis. And, yeah, I'll be heading back from the SEC Championship college game day morning and going to that for sure. Yeah, it's – the city's going to be shut down for this thing. I mean, it is going to be outrageous. And I think what Mendoza and that Indiana offense can do, not a lot of teams in the country can do. It's the original reason why I picked Indiana over Oregon is because I'd been forced to watch this Indiana Hoosier team being a local here, and I've seen it, and it's like this Mendoza guy operates like a Sunday quarterback.

2:22:47Pat McAfee:This guy's an NFL quarterback. They got talent all over the place. They're able to protect him. It's like, and it can run it. This team is a good team, and your defense can be dominant, which your team certainly has been, but Mendoza's been able to be good against those types of teams because he can also read, which is what your defense can do to offenses. So it's like, I think the game's going to live up. I think the game's going to live up to the environment that it's going to be played in. And I think it's special, man. I think it's a very, very special situation for both these teams, A.G. I can't wait to hear.

2:23:17I don't know. Do you think Kurt Signetti will be a little more subdued this week leading up to it? Or do you think he's going to be very boisterous and talkative?

2:23:25Pat McAfee:If I had to guess, he told us earlier in the season that he doesn't have to do that shit anymore. He said he felt like he had to do all that to make sure everybody believed. like he he feels like he had to come in there he said the first four hours i was in the building i realized that we got to change a lot of people's a lot of everything around opinions ideas we got to build this program up basically so he says that that decision was made strictly because of the lack of belief in the program that he felt immediately upon arrival so he started talking to shit fuck the high state fuck purdue fuck michigan yeah like this is what we're doing in this entire thing and then now he said he feels like people believe in him and i think that's i think that's real i think we do believe in the hoosiers and i think that's why saturday night is gonna be glorious here in indian i mean what the president and ad said to you last year when game day went there hey we are fully aligned we are fully like president i think from georgia ad from if i recall right alignment from football places like very much understand what football can do for entire university, what sports can do for entire university.

2:24:31Pat McAfee:And they're embracing it. And obviously the Penn State job opens up. Indiana immediately goes, hey, you want to stay here? Yes. Here's a new deal for however much,$100 million. We'll keep you here for the next six years. They are very much all in on it. And the Ohio State Buckeyes are in the middle of a dynasty. You know, so special stuff. It could be a physical game. That's why I thought the Michigan game was cool because it was very physical. And I talked to people that were there in the stadium. They said, like, every play, even if it's not on camera, like there's dudes 20 yards down the field kind of going back and forth, kind of pushing, shoving.

2:25:01After every play, it was a rivalry game. It's very, very physical. There's a cut-up, too, of Kazmieric, the tight end. The dude was blocking his ass off, putting dudes on the ground. There's like five, six, seven clips with this guy just finishing dudes all over the field, laying it on top of him. It was one of those games. That was supposed to be.

2:25:18Pat McAfee:Hey, can you tell me a little bit about, obviously, Jeremiah Smith's unbelievable. What a move. Defensive holding there, right, D-butt? Oh, yeah. For sure. What a bucket shot there from Julian Sane to Tate. I mean, you know, this Ohio State team has been beating everybody's ass. I mean, that's what they've been doing. And Texas, actually, Sarkeesian came out week one. We lost seven by seven to Ohio State. We've all seen what Ohio State has done to everybody. It's like since jump, this Ohio State team has been understanding that they have to be great and they're expected to be great. Now they got the Michigan game out of the way.

2:25:51Pat McAfee:Now it's like full focus on what this entire season. They feel more like a machine, I think, than any other team at this point.

2:25:57Adam Schefter:Yeah, I would be interested to hear AJ's thought. If he is afraid of any, I guess, drop-off of the emotional. Now you finally got this mystery monkey off your back. I know this is a huge game. You're defending national champs. But now, after getting a win like that, it's the first for this group, obviously. Any fear of a fall-off facing this Hoosier team? I don't think so. I think they feel probably – I mean, Ryan Day, I think, he is on those dudes every single day. He is highly, highly motivated. So the rest of them are, but I think now they think, all right, cool. Now our season begins. What we've done was cool, whatever.

2:26:29But now we are here to do what we set out to do. This is what we want to do. We plan on going undefeated and winning a national championship, and that's all out in front of us.

2:26:37Pat McAfee:Here are the odds to win the national championship as we sit at this moment with DraftKings. Ohio State plus 160. Indiana plus 425. Georgia plus 800. Oregon plus 1 ,000 alongside Notre Dame. And Texas Tech, hey, that's a good football team. It is a good football team. Now that we're talking about Texas Tech, hey, that's a good football team. They need, I think, to get out of the Big 12. I think Texas Tech. They are more SEC. They feel right, West Texas. But if you really zoom out and move over, you can say they're a part of the southeastern part of the United States of America. So the fact that Sankey has not invited Texas Tech into the SEC is disgusting.

2:27:25Pat McAfee:For those people down there in Lubbock, I'm going to let you know. He's probably afraid of them. I don't. It's exactly what it is. And they know that. But if you guys get invited to go over there, you guys should go on over there and prove just who the hell you are. How's BYU not in the Mountain West? They're in the mountains. Bingo. I'm okay with BYU hanging in the Big 12. Especially with some of the rumors. Trying to pick it up? But Texas Tech, we need them out of the Big 12. We need them. They beat the shit out of the West Virginia Mountaineers. I saw some clips, yeah. They, I'm being just in.

2:28:00Pat McAfee:Good football team. Good football team. That's a good football team. And I don't think nationally there's a lot of respect for them because it's brand new. Like Texas Tech is brand new. But like one of the people, let alone high school coach loves ball, quarterback, his dad's high school coach loves ball. They embrace Texas. it's like the people the double eagle and buddy beach okay the people that are kind of behind this entire thing who uh took a shovel out and they went down there and they found it okay and they certainly have it and they played ball in the trenches is where they played ball so it's like we want the best d line and we want the best offensive line and it's like you got patrick mahomes too who's there to get brand new stuff from adidas and recruit uh whenever you talk about weapons and everything like it's like they have they're i think they're just getting started i don't think it's a i think they are a real problem for as long as that shit's in the ground and that shit's going to be in the ground for a long time and that is how that is how i think cody campbell and dusty wobble buddy beach okay and these boys i think that's how they view it and i think they're all aligned like hey when we're good at sports everything's better around here it's a very family-oriented part of the country, I think, and of the state.

2:29:16And it's like, family, sports,

2:29:18Pat McAfee:it's like, that's everything they love. And it's like, they view that as their team. And to have one of the main drivers of that be a trenches guy, it's like, he knows. This guy gets it. This guy really, really understands.

2:29:31AJ Hawk:That's where they spent this offseason, too.

2:29:32Pat McAfee:All of it. That D-line. We got no points. We played four quarters against it.

2:29:37Adam Schefter:Yeah, so. Let's go football team. It sucks to have to tweet that out. Final. Yeah, why do that? I don't know. Everyone does it. Everyone.

2:29:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's because they want engagement, I think. You don't have to. You don't have engagement. They want right. Look, guys. These people have wrong. Not all these people. Not West Virginia. Certainly not. Okay, certainly not West Virginia. But, you know, these social media people, they got the wrong, you know.

2:30:01Adam Schefter:Send it.

2:30:01Pat McAfee:They got the wrong goals. You know, sometimes their goals aren't. This is not what I'm referring to. Yeah. This one is not what I'm referring to. Although, that's not a good one. You should just lie. 30-0. Yeah, because you could just say you stopped tweeting. Yeah. Last we saw, this tweet actually posted this two hours ago. It's just one out. You're not a stadium B. Fine. Sorry about it. And then you can even quote tweet that and say, sorry, delay on the tweet. We'll see you next week. Bang. Now you're getting actual numbers as opposed to just saying, we're ass cheeks. Look at this. And look at this.

2:30:34Pat McAfee:Seven touchdowns. Or just say like, hey, the boys fought hard and were unable to get a victory. Just don't put the score. Yeah, exactly. Frazing. Good game, Texas Tech. Although we weren't able to get on the scoreboard this week, we will certainly attempt to in the future. You know? Or just text, text, go football team. That's all it needs to be said. And also, maybe even, Texas Tech should be banned from the Big 12. That's, yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Banned. They need to be banned. Go to hell, Texas Tech. Yeah, that's what the posts need to be. Texas Tech team, I think, is going to be good for a long time.

2:31:10Pat McAfee:So is West Virginia, though. We're finding our hard edge. It was lost there for a while, but it has been found once again. That's an offseason run. We're not losing our coaches to Colorado State, so I don't want to hear anything. Not yet. Has Kevin Brown decommitted yet? Whoa. He knows we need him. Okay. And enough with even putting that in the universe. Okay. Tim Brown's boy.

2:31:30Adam Schefter:Well, yeah, exactly. He's not letting him decommit. Maybe post that. Post Kevin Brown. Yeah. There you go.

2:31:37Pat McAfee:West Virginia football. The future.

2:31:39Adam Schefter:Boom.

2:31:40Pat McAfee:On the next season.

2:31:44Pat McAfee:And it's him. And they have a transformation from his photo shoot that he had where his quads were out and his jaw. And it goes into his pads right here. Yeah. What? What if Lane comes after him? What the fuck are you doing? Why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? We don't need that. I'm sorry. My bad. What are you doing? why are we even talking like that LSU doesn't want he's where he should be he's going home I kept you off the screen though I didn't want him to get swayed we do not need anything here this is a big deal for West Virginia I think it's being proved every single week when we go out there showing promise, showing chance and we run into a team that is there right now this is where we are trying to get to and Texas Tech I think they're going to be there for a while man they got football people with the money as opposed to like i think cody campbell if he really wanted to i assume he could have got into the scouting uh nfl world you know he's one of those types of guys i think he could have got in there loves ball nose ball just so happened to take some of his ball money and go start a company you know back text texture and boy we hit it and then we did it again and then we holy shit did it again and then we did it again and they I think view themselves as football people how they want it to look and then you add in Mahomes it's like that's a problem dude and that fan base is crazy they are a fucking great fan that's gotta get I assume that's only gonna get bigger oh yeah who else in the big 12 has those kind of you know that kind of alignment that they have right now oh it's and I yes I don't know whenever you give that question but whenever ever you talk about the alignment it's like this is what every college football team would the money people are football people because everybody's like hey the money people can't be telling the football people what to do it's like well the money people are fucking football people it's like okay mahomes you think he knows his shit do you think you can maybe these guys they know ball like it's a it's quite they need to be banned they need to be banned them also understanding like hey we need to get better on the offensive and defensive line and like kind of changing from the gimmicky bullshit that they used to be where, like, they just go out and throw for 750 yards.

2:34:04Like, you can't just beat every team 56 to 49. So them understanding, like, even with Mahomes being there, like, no, we have to do this the right way. And then you see when they actually do do it the right way. It's like, oh, wow. These guys are pretty fucking good.

2:34:17Pat McAfee:This is Cody Campbell's tweet. Love you, Red Raider Nation. Love you, Jerry Maguire. And every single one of the incredible group of guys you coach, now let's go get a Big 12 championship.

2:34:26Adam Schefter:Big game. For the next 10 years. Nobody's going to get in our way. sweet road to the playoffs. They ain't leaving. Why would they? No, they'd be so stupid to leave. They're in a beautiful spot.

2:34:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, right. What are you talking about? What are you guys talking about right now? Are we talking about the Big 12 being a cakewalk to the playoffs? Yep. Money will spend. Little do you guys know.

2:34:52Adam Schefter:Might be a Clemson ACC situation for the next day.

2:34:55Pat McAfee:No, I don't think so. I think that is not accurate. Here is championship week as we look ahead. Congrats to these teams potentially winning the first championship of the year. This is something that every team looks forward to, has their sights on. It's talked about in the building throughout the entire year, trying to win your conference championship. All these teams will have the chance to do as such. That Georgia-Alabama game, obviously down there in the SEC, will be a spectacular one in Atlanta. A lot of questions about if Alabama loses this game, Would that be held against them in the college football playoff committee?

2:35:29Pat McAfee:And then I've heard Herbstreet, I think, say that he has heard that if you make the championship game, you can't drop anywhere, but you could maybe go up or something. I haven't seen that rule. Me neither. I have not either. The Herbie rule? I think he heard from somebody, maybe a committee member. Can we FaceTime Herbstreet? Can you please FaceTime Herbstreet? That would be three losses from him? Yeah. Have you seen it? So then they go into the three loss committee, three loss crew. And then there's a lot of conversations about all that. Yes, exactly. Who's ranked higher than Duke? Who's that?

2:36:03JMU and both of those American teams. So if there's a situation where Duke wins, ACC might be left out of the college football playoff.

2:36:10Pat McAfee:Come on, Duke. Which would be insanity. Obviously, that'd be a huge conversation. Alabama or Texas getting into the playoff would be a huge conversation. And Alabama potentially getting punished for losing in the SEC championship would be a huge story because then you would hear every person that's ever been involved with the sport say, so these championship games are not good to go to? So Oregon is not going to the championship game, so they just get to hang out. They won't add any other losses, and they're in a great spot. Is that kind of the thought of what we want in the future? And then you think about Alabama.

2:36:44Pat McAfee:If you win the SEC championship, though, all of a sudden now you're in a much more primo position. Georgia stays in, I think, regardless. Yeah, personally, I think that teams that are in this conference championship this weekend would be the Oregon, Indiana, Texas Tech, Georgia, and Bama. I think no matter what happens. Because you can't take – I don't think you can punish Alabama for losing them. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is always in the middle of most conversations about ball. Because he kicks off NFL weeks on Thursday night on Prime without Michaels. He is the face of College Game Day, which I am lucky to be a part of, 9 to noon.

2:37:26Pat McAfee:And then he calls the primetime game every single week on ABC. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, former president of Ohio, Kirk Herbstreit. Yay, Kirk. Herbie, thank you for coming on. I hope you had an incredible morning thus far. I hope you had a great weekend. Question for you. Were you the one that said, because I was just thinking aloud here, Alabama, obviously, if they lose in the championship game, will pick up a third loss. Then all of a sudden, everybody's like, well, they'll get tossed into the three loss group. And then maybe they missed college football playoff, which then leads into people saying, well, you don't want to make your conference championship game.

2:38:00Pat McAfee:What is the conference championship game even mean? Didn't you say that you heard something about not being able to drop in ranking if you're in the championship game, unless it's a blowout or something like that? I forget. Was that you that said that? And if it wasn't you, what are your thoughts on that situation?

2:38:15AJ Hawk:Yeah, it probably was me in one of our meetings. Let me pull this over. Probably me in one of our meetings with Game Day. I mean, it is a – is this working? Is the mic wrong?

2:38:29Pat McAfee:We can hear you for sure. I don't know if you're going through the mic or not, but it looks cool.

2:38:33AJ Hawk:Okay. Oh, maybe I'm not going through it. But you're right. The meeting we had, because I've been told this, it's not my opinion, And I've just been told that if you go into a conference championship game, and Wisconsin, I think, in 14 got blown out by Ohio State, 59-0. And that flipped everything. Ohio State went way up. There were two spots behind and ended up going up. But I haven't seen, I can't remember, a team that had to play a bonus game that then got punished for playing in that game. I mean, Alabama went to Athens and beat Georgia in the regular season. And now they're going to play them a second time.

2:39:16AJ Hawk:We all know how tough it is on a second time. So I don't know. Unless they get worked, I'd be surprised. And we don't even know what the rankings are until tomorrow night to find out whether or not how far ahead are they of some of these other teams. Have you guys broken down Duke potentially winning yet?

2:39:34Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah, Tone just kind of led into it a little bit about maybe the ACC champion not having any representation in the top five or top highest ranked conference champions.

2:39:45AJ Hawk:Yeah, it's really confusing because, for me anyway, the top five conference champs, I think we all get locked in Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big 12. But in this case, if Duke, who's seven and five, ended up winning, you're not going to move them up over the American winner. Tulane and North Texas. So that champion is automatically in. And if JMU, who I think has a chance to get into the rankings this week, they're 19th this week in the coaches and AP poll. But if JMU wins their conference championship game, they would go in. And if Duke beat Texas Tech, you could have JMU, let's just say Tulane, if they beat North Texas, ACC out.

2:40:34AJ Hawk:If BYU, beats Texas Tech. Texas Tech's not out. So you have BYU in, Texas Tech in. Now you start eliminating, where do you start eliminating teams? Think about that. BYU, count them for me. BYU, Texas Tech, JMU, Tulane, and now you get the Big Ten champion. Let's say Ohio United States, Indiana, whoever wins, the loser's still in. Oregon is going to go in. So with all kinds of chaos, we haven't even gotten to Notre Dame yet. And how many do we have? We haven't even gotten to the SEC yet. How many do you have left? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

2:41:17Pat McAfee:And Notre Dame would be eight.

2:41:18AJ Hawk:Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, think about what's left now. Think about what's left. Georgia, Texas A &M, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, vandy texas miami utah i mean if that happens you you you have it's it's complete and utter chaos because going by what you said you got to put notre dame in well then who are

2:41:48Pat McAfee:you going to leave out i'm telling you notre dame hey i don't like it kirk i don't think any of us like it and it was kind of the reason why you were talking the way you were talking on saturday about Lane being able to coach his team. Like, and obviously there was people that got very upset with you saying that, like, hey, the reality is that's just not going to work out for any party, yada, yada, yada. But I think what you were thinking of is if Lane's not there and his other coaches that are going with him aren't there, what is this team going to look like as opposed to what they worked for all year?

2:42:20Pat McAfee:That is the world you were living in, right? Is that not?

2:42:21AJ Hawk:I was looking at it from a player's perspective and a unprecedented season in the history of 122 years of Ole Miss football. I wanted them, and whether it's Lane, if Lane has to go, Keith Carter said he's got to go, okay. I mean, that's his decision. That's fine. Can Charlie Weiss Jr. stay? Can Joe Cox stay? I mean, you imagine Ole Miss preparing. You got Joe Judge is one of the few offensive coaches that's still in Oxford. And everybody else is in Baton Rouge. So this chaos, and I'm not saying it's Ole Miss' fault. We talk about the calendar. Ole Miss had to make a decision, and I respect that their AD basically said, listen, you're either with us or you're against us.

2:43:06AJ Hawk:If you're out, you're out. Goodbye. But it really puts this Ole Miss team that's enjoying a season that we've never seen. I would just love to have seen kind of what Tulane's doing. John Sumrall's going to Florida. He's coaching in the conference championship game of the American. If they win, he's coaching in the playoff. I think, you know, maybe they decided it was a different set of circumstances going from Tulane to Florida. I get that. But I just thought maybe if they went around to the players, especially the leadership council, and said, hey, guys, this sucks. I mean, it is what it is. Do you guys want Lane and all these coaches to stick around?

2:43:42AJ Hawk:Do you want to do it without him? And I don't know if they did that or not. But if they did and the leadership council said, to hell with him, get him out here, I'd be like, okay. Players made that decision. Let's go with it. But I don't know if that happened. I have no idea. I just know Ole Miss made that decision. and I'm not like jumping up and down saying how dare they. I just, I wish for their sake, they could have stayed intact, made a hell of a run. You know, maybe they'll circle the wagons and play with a pissed off attitude, you know, that Lane left. I'm sure, like the example I used this morning with Joey was West Virginia lost Rich Rod to go to Ann Arbor.

2:44:21AJ Hawk:They had to go play Oklahoma. You were on the team in Tempe or Glendale. No one thought they'd have a chance against Oklahoma. And I don't think Elmer Fudd could have been the coach that day for West Virginia, and they would have killed anybody. You guys were pissed off at the world. And maybe that'll be Ole Miss, you know, if they get into the CFP and they make a run.

2:44:44Pat McAfee:Maybe they'll be mad at the world. Hopefully it could unite them and they get going. You know, we had Pat White, Steve Slayton, Noah Devine, Owen Schmidt, Dennis Raynaud, Tito. You guys were, whew. Yeah. You would have beaten anybody in the country that night. Yeah, and the issue is if some doofus makes a couple kicks before that, we do beat anybody in the country, which we're still living in, and we're trying to get back to that, obviously. But to your point, we went through Coach Rod Levin to go to higher grounds. He went to Michigan, a job that you have to take. And Stoops, I believe from Oklahoma, said, we were hoping that we would get a better team or something like that.

2:45:22Pat McAfee:They said something along those lines, like, the team's not even good enough. Bill Stewart, who was our head coach at the time, he was tight ends and special teams coordinator.

2:45:30AJ Hawk:No one really knew him. No one really knew him in the outside world.

2:45:33Pat McAfee:Beloved by the locker room. Obviously been around a long time. And the way he talked that whole week about how bad everybody thought we were ass and all this stuff. It was a cool week for us. It was a cool week for me. I had to battle a lot of personal demons, obviously. But it was, yeah, we beat shit out of that team. It was a cool thing to watch our team respond that way. Maybe Ole Miss will do that. That was one game. If you want to make it to the – you have to win multiple games, and there's a lot that goes into it. And obviously with the timing of the transfer portal and signing day and you're with another team and we have our team, who's going to be talking to the people?

2:46:05Pat McAfee:It's – what a nightmare. And I think we've all talked about the calendar being crazy, and hopefully they'll be able to change that. But I don't know. This shit was crazy how it all went down there at Ole Miss. And to the point that you're talking about, about BYU, Texas Tech, JMU, Tulane, two, three from the Big Ten, Notre Dame, Georgia, A &M, Bama, Ole Miss. Is that who you put in there? Remember the clause that they have in this thing. Could you imagine how bad Lane Kiffin would be hated?

2:46:31AJ Hawk:Oh, my gosh.

2:46:33Pat McAfee:Oh, my gosh. They can't do it.

2:46:35AJ Hawk:Ole Miss got it. They have to get it. I don't think Notre Dame's going to get it. And by the way, guys, none of those weigh more heavily than the other. Strength of schedule, head-to-head, comparative outcomes of common opponents. And then, you know, it's not just because it's down there at number four. It's availability of key players and coaches. And I don't know how – there's no way the committee – Ole Miss finished the year strong. I mean, think about how they blocked out all the noise and went out in the Egg Bowl. We all thought that was a tricky game for them. Oh, my God. The committee – The cowbells, the rivalry, Ole Miss.

2:47:11AJ Hawk:Oh, my God. The committee doing that would be the biggest heel move of all time. I don't think they can do that. But what if they're at six right now? What if they move them down to 11 and they go from having a home game to having to go on the road? Even that people are going to be fucking pissed off. Did they drop them already? One spot, yeah.

2:47:30Pat McAfee:Is Oklahoma on that list you had? Nope. Because they're making it. Because Oklahoma's there. So then you're saying Notre Dame drops out. I can't remember the list. I don't know who dropped out. If that's the situation, there's a chance where Notre Dame, Miami, Vandy, I'm trying to think of who the other two lost. Utah. Utah, Texas. Only two of those teams can get in. So it's going to be...

2:47:51AJ Hawk:You're talking about having three spots, and you're talking about seven or eight teams that are worthy of having an argument to be in there. And by the way, I don't think anybody signed up for... It's great to see these underdogs, and that's a lot of fun. I don't want to see it. But how is Miami and Florida, the year that they've had, Why can't a tiebreaker be the CFP rankings? Like, how is Miami the best team in the ACC? And they're not even going to Charlotte. It makes no sense to me. Like, how Duke at 7-5 is going to play Virginia, who's had a great year. Hell of a story. But how is Miami not going?

2:48:33AJ Hawk:Why can't the tiebreaker be the CFP rankings? It just makes no sense to me.

2:48:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, there's a lot of things that don't make a lot of sense in college ball, but we're still going to watch it. And we still love it. The controversy, the drama, the atmosphere, and the meaningful football that is on its way for college football. We're pumped that we get to be a part of it. See you down there in Atlanta, brother. See you guys. Have a good one. Indianapolis, brother, is going to be insane.

2:49:01AJ Hawk:I'm coming back for the second half after I call the SEC. I'm going to fly up to Indy to watch from the sideline. You guys going to be in the suite? Yes. You're coming through for real? Yeah, I'm going to fly up. I'm going to catch you. I hope to be there by halftime. Okay. Come on. It's going to be. What time's your game? What time's that game start? Do you guys know? Eight. Oh, definitely. My game, I think. What time's my game? Three or four? Oh, shit. Let's see. 7.30. 7.30 airport by hopefully 8. 8.30 at the latest in the air. Yeah, second. Right, 9.30. 9.30.

2:49:35Pat McAfee:Yeah.

2:49:36AJ Hawk:Is there an FBO near downtown?

2:49:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, 15. 15. All right. So I'm there. I'm there worst case by 10. All right, we'll see you then. Cannot wait for that. It should be a good time. They're going to shut down the city for this game. The Hoosiers have a basketball game at 3.30 in the afternoon. Ohio State obviously travels in bunches. I mean, it's going to be – It's going to be a scene. Yes, it is. It's going to be insane here. We can't wait to see you here as well, ladies and gentlemen. Kirk Herbstreit. Yeah, Kirk. Oh, Kirk. Yeah. Ohio State, man. What a win. What a win. Ohio State. I see you're wearing your blue shirt like you're wearing your blue suit on Saturday for the boy you know for your boy

2:50:17AJ Hawk:I typically wear blue I'm either gray or blue makes the eyes pop yeah those baby blues yeah you got those baby blues

2:50:23Pat McAfee:you were told earlier you wear blue those sons of bitches is Ty still mad at me?

2:50:27AJ Hawk:no I was complimenting his athletic ability no I was more mad about the Iowa stuff and then I'll tell you what Kirk after they just beat the absolute shit out of Nebraska you feel good? yeah I feel great Packers won on Thursday Thanksgiving win You're feeling good. Exactly. I'm a good spot right now. How are you?

2:50:44Pat McAfee:I love you. How was the Black Friday game? Did you enjoy that? Loved it. Absolutely. There's going to be more of those, right? Bezos is going to be spending more on those super duper holiday games. Oh, yeah.

2:50:58AJ Hawk:Yeah, I mean, it's my fourth year there, and they've had four of them. I think the last couple of years, people have kind of caught on to them a little bit more because you're used to the Thanksgiving games, but Black Friday, it was a blast. The Bears are really, really good. Man, they're fun. Old school, eye formation, run it down your throat, play action. Caleb is much more disciplined, playing great defense. They're going to be a factor. You look at their schedule, it's going to be a fun matchup in the postseason with really the vision, Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago, all three of those teams.

2:51:38AJ Hawk:I got Detroit-Dallas Thursday. I don't think either team can afford to lose that game. That's a huge one, Thursday.

2:51:44Pat McAfee:Yeah, Dallas might be the best team in ball right now, which is such an interesting part of the Dallas Cowboys story because there's a chance they can't make the playoffs, but we'll be calling them the best team in ball, and Jerry Jones will run with that all offseason. That'll be an entire offseason of not making the playoffs, but still, best team in ball. Shit, you fucking saw it. I mean, that's what we do. That's what we are. You saw us. We're electrifying, too. you want to buy a ticket to see this Dallas Cowboys team. That's what you want to do. And next year, it's going to be a different story.

2:52:10Pat McAfee:It's going to be a different story. Can't wait to watch you on the call. Hey, did you see the photo before we get out of here? You saw a photo of your boy lined up with his team protecting the logo?

2:52:22AJ Hawk:Did not. Did not. You'll be proud of your boy.

2:52:25Pat McAfee:You'll be proud of your boy. He's standing there in the line. There's a photo of Ohio State guys in the crowd at the big house. And then there's a bunch of Michigan guys like in crew allegedly they're like protecting the em or whatever you know so it's not happening and you'll see in the one photo number 15 herb street right there on the right side and i was like standing with the boys i like it he's in the back would like you know maybe we move up to the front there but i do appreciate that in that entire thing and i appreciate the shit out of

2:52:53AJ Hawk:that rivalry as a whole i like oh it's so good so much fun those colors on the field together i i you know i can't get enough of that obviously i'm old school love that ohio state clean old school original whites instead of doing something crazy. I love the look of both the teams. Ohio State was dominant. Ohio State's defense, I'm sure AJ talks about them all the time. Matt Patricia, if he doesn't win the Broyles Award as a top assistant, I'd be shocked. Their defense, what is it, eight points a game through 12 games? That play right there kind of felt like a turning point. Of course, people argued about this one.

2:53:29AJ Hawk:I don't know if it would have mattered a whole lot, him bobbling the ball there. Some people wanted that to be a touchback. But Ohio State, just so many playmakers, played with good discipline. And I was in the tunnel with the two teams. Is that what you're talking about?

2:53:42Pat McAfee:Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You see 15 right there. You see 15. There he is.

2:53:46AJ Hawk:Yep, yep. I'm going to show you some texts that Wink sent me over the weekend that you'll appreciate and like. Because he was with them every week this year down on the scout team. Imagine being a freshman quarterback, and Wink Martindale is your defensive coordinator you're learning from. and competing against and really, really what an opportunity to grow as a young buck. He had a great year doing that.

2:54:13Pat McAfee:Good vote, Chase. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. All right, dudes. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirkert.

2:54:21Pat McAfee:All right, let's get some overreactions. Erin Andrews said she had an overreaction for us. Was that about her getting misquoted basically out of context? I would assume so. What an absurd thing to happen. I can't believe those people did that to her. Wait, that's what they do? Yeah. That's kind of their entire thing. That was fucked up. Erin Andrews is OG in the game. Uh-huh. She's giving a lot of time of her life to football. Oh, yeah. She was doing the games in Morgantown whenever we were playing, whenever I was playing her. I assume a couple of UConn games were probably playing against us if I had to guess.

2:54:52Pat McAfee:But you're talking about just, like, serving time to football and, like, always seemingly loves ball. Mm-hmm. Never like anything else. So to be like, Aaron Andrews, this lady is a... She's potting because she can't go home to her family on Thanksgiving and Christmas. I don't like that anybody bought it, though, because EA is always like... I can't remember who quote-tweeted it, too, and it was definitely someone who should have known better.

2:55:14Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah, a lot of people should have known better. Yeah.

2:55:17Pat McAfee:Yo, EA's like a... She's a positive force for ball. Part of the institution. She's a positive force for ball. Getting quoted out of context, there's a crazy thing that happens on the internet these days, and there's going to be people that just run with that narrative for the rest of their life, and they're never going to be corrected. and that's okay. Can't wait to run into them in public. That's always an enjoyable time. On that note, let's get some overreaction, shall we? This is what Monday is all about. Put out a tweet that says, hey, listen, why don't you let us know how you feel about your football team?

2:55:44Pat McAfee:Let them all out. You will not be judged. No, you'll actually be celebrated. All you got to use is... Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But... We had some good ones earlier. I don't know if we need to keep doing that on ESPN because it holds back the limitations of what we're able to put up there. Ty had like a couple different options that we had to pull back. I was going through. Yeah, had to pull back. Because those things are just plastered right on the screen. People walk through the airport, especially with the delays today. Jesus, that says fuck like eight times. Yeah, so we had to dial it back.

2:56:15Pat McAfee:But shout out to the overreactions making it onto ESPN. And shout out to you for participating. This became a trending topic. This is from Dave Krat at DaveKrat99. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Chicago Bears are the number one team in the NFC. The Bears thought they would live in darkness for eternity, but a fucking stallion showed up and changed everything. Green Bay, get ready to meet your new dad. Good bear, best. Never let it rest. Bear, die. Shout out to Chicago. They do have a guy. Yeah, big time. Certainly have a guy. I think that was my tweet after watching that game and then seeing him shirtless.

2:56:49It's like, oh, Ben Johnson's a fucking guy.

2:56:52Pat McAfee:Like that is certified at this point. So quick into his head coaching career. So fast turnaround. round and then he's also still jacked so i got massive respect for what he's done aj and we talked about it earlier he's put his culture in which i think is the hardest thing to institute yeah i feel like he's gotten his culture kind of set pretty early earlier than expected earlier in the season i mean it was doom and gloom for a little bit throughout remember all the mistakes they talk about during training camp him restarting practice and we i remember we took it as a good thing say hey no ben johnson's not messing around he's holding these guys accountable like he is he's letting them know that the standard is very very high here and i feel like man how many wins they have what eight of the last nine something like that yeah whatever it is like they this is not what it looked like the first couple weeks of the season i think and the fact that caleb's playing so well and ben johnson i mean great coaches they kind of cater and they craft things they put their players in position to make plays and how they can run the ball man like this is that's something that travels and the good thing is what they play the packers two times still uh in the rest of this season so we will truly get to see who really uh who runs the north i guess yeah who runs the north who's the shirtless coach of the north it's ben johnson forever and ever and swift's nickname was philly is what they called him so going back to philly playing against him i thought he would have a big day they go for 281 on the ground which is obviously the most that a syriani-led team has ever given up a lot of people talking about chicago bears just bullied the eagles basically yeah just bullied the eagles and it's that's exactly what ben johnson wanted we spend all the money on the offensive line as soon as he gets there just like this texas tech team basically as soon as he gets there hey what do we need to fix offensive line.

2:58:24Pat McAfee:I want all the good offensive linemen that are available right now. How much are we paying? Whatever the fuck we need to pay for it. As soon as you get there, knowing that that's the right move, and then if you get Caleb to buy in, which he has seemingly, and then the rest of the team, it's like, golly, it's magic what can happen to a place. Chicago's alive again. Yeah, and you mentioned the offensive line. Someone put out a great kind of encapsulation of Joe Tooney and his entire career. He basically was part of the end of the Patriots dynasty. Unbelievable. Best guard in football. Then he goes to the Chiefs, wins two or three, whatever the hell it is, and now with the Bears.

2:58:57He is kind of the prototypical guard you would want, especially for a young quarterback. You guys have talked about it. Having a vet on that offensive line is so huge. Darnell Wright's great. I think he's in his second or third year, so not really a vet. Joe Tooney, just being there helping him out is huge.

2:59:14Pat McAfee:Here's the tweet you're referring to. The Patriots drafted Joe Tooney in 2016. He won three AFC championships and two Super Bowl titles. New England hasn't won a playoff game since he left. Then he joined the Chiefs for four years, won three more AFCs and two Super Bowl titles. Now he's joined the Bears, and they're 8-3, 9-3 now, and on their way in Kansas City, obviously, feels the loss without him. Wild turn of events.

2:59:38Adam Schefter:And obviously a guy like that is going to have the impact he has on the field, but the impact that he has in the locker room and things we'll never see, that's priceless. It's guys who don't get the credit outside the building, but we know what kind of guys they are inside the building. So for them to turn this around, because all everybody talked about is how they built this team with the first-round picks, a wide receiver, and you get a quarterback like Kayla Williams, can't even win in Chicago and that type of weather, and to see them come out and bully teams. And now at this point, what, five games won in November, that's when we talk about real football starts in the NFL, and then they're getting healthier on defense.

3:00:12Adam Schefter:Their backers will be back at some point, but Nick and Kyler Gordon back, getting Jalen Johnson back, which when he's in his prime, he's one of the best corners in the league. So, I mean, arrow's only up for the Chicago team.

3:00:22Pat McAfee:The Bears, the Kings, and the North. Oh, no. We'll find out. They play the Packers two times in the next three weeks. And I think this is the game on Sunday will be the most impactful Bears-Packers game since like 2013 in the last week of the season. It was winner take all for the division. Like there hasn't been a Bears-Packers game with this much juice in 12 years, which is crazy, but that's the way it should be. On a collision course of rivalry greatness for the next 10, 15 years. Can't wait to watch. Let's go to the next overreaction. It's from Phil Huser. They call him the Hughes. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Eagles are fucking dead.

3:00:58Pat McAfee:Their brain-dead head coach and dumbass offensive coordinator lost them not only the one seed, but are now going to lose the NFC East. These dickheads couldn't scheme Jerry fucking Rice. 2023 all over again. Generational offense ruined by these dopes. A lot of that coming out of Philly? Yeah, a lot of that. People are sick of Sirianni as well. The Petulo stuff, I mean, this has been going on since week two. And as you can imagine, you know, when Sirianni came out and said, hey, we're not making any changes, Philly fans were pretty calm and normal. Yeah, the Hughes certainly said, okay, yeah, we're not doing anything.

3:01:29Pat McAfee:We like our guys, huh? Is that what we're doing? Well, we're about sick of it over here. Now, Sirianni, unless he is making a full change, cannot say anything negative publicly about a coach and his staff. Now, if he makes the move and decides to move on from Petulo, then I think he could say something publicly. But watching the Eagles the way they are and the way they got beat up, I think I saw Orlovsky or somebody say earlier today, the way the defense is playing in Philly is as if they understand that the offense is shite. And it's like you can break them basically. And I think I saw CJ GJ maybe.

3:02:00Yes, because he's on the Bears now.

3:02:01Pat McAfee:I think CJ GJ said, I told you they fold or something like that. It's almost like the Philadelphia Eagles are waiting for a reason to not win a game, you know? And it's like, I think that all goes back to the vibes around it. So much drama. So much controversy. I don't know how they were able to win a Super Bowl in it all, but if anybody can turn around, I guess it would be Sirianni in this Eagles team. Good luck to them. The Bears are for real. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Mitchell Cantley at PHX Streeter. Okay, sick. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Detroit's flash has burned out in the pan.

3:02:34Pat McAfee:This season is a wrap, and next year will be even worse. Another new offensive coordinator. Another offensive line rebuild. Limited draft picks. Bottom third in cap space. Vets departing. I don't know, man. But 23 was their only shot. Foxy, ass in cheeks. Oh, no. Across the whole board or what's going on up there, dude? I don't agree with this overreaction. Okay, this year, yeah, it's going to be tough to make the playoffs. We can probably only afford to lose one more game, and we have some tough ones coming up. But with all that being said, I think next year, easier schedule. Guys will be healthier.

3:03:10MCDC will hire an OC so he doesn't have to be OC. I think that's a big deal. And I think we'll be A-OK. We still got the dogs. We still got the players. We're still young. It's just been a tough year, tough schedule, the whole thing. I'm not losing all hope yet. You sound bummed out. I'm definitely bummed out. This weekend was a kick in the dick.

3:03:28Pat McAfee:Sounds like you're trying to talk yourself into that opinion, Foxy. Yeah. You read that from somebody else and now you're trying to buy into it or what? No, I just – I try not to lose a lot of hope, but Thursday we get our ass kicked by the Packers. We got to play the best team in the league in the Cowboys, and then we got to play the best team in the NFC in the Rams. I mean, this is – it's not looking good right now. Sorry, it was fun. Let's go around. Just glad I'm not a Michigan fan and had to eat that one, too, because there was a lot of people that are Lions fans and Michigan fans. That's tough.

3:03:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, they caught a little one-two there. Michigan State, now go green. Go white. Pat Fitzgerald era. Here we go. Come on, boys. That might be the best hire of the cooking cycle. Why no one else clap? There's a lot of things. There's a lot of things. It feels like a good hire. It is? It feels like a good hire, man. I think it was a great hire. As soon as I saw it come across the algo, I was like, Fitzgerald? I forgot he was available. He just got done with a lot of things about a lot of things. I think he's on a revenge tour. And also, hey, what they said about me, what, is kind of his run right now.

3:04:30Pat McAfee:And he won games at Northwestern. I don't think they had a lot of guys. You know, like I think. Went to a Big Ten championship. Yeah, exactly. From what I've been told, too, Michigan State does have some money behind it. Yeah, exactly. I think it's a great fit. Underdog, chip on the shoulder, everything Michigan State represents. and then allegedly there's even more money coming, but who knows? Oh. Allegedly. Maybe Michigan State runs the Big Ten now. They might. I mean, unfeeding basketball right now. Oh. Really? Hey, hold on, though. Who was the team that beat the shit out of everybody? There was a college basketball team that won by 30.

3:05:01Pat McAfee:Michigan. Michigan is for real. They look good. They were the first team ever to beat three tournament teams from the season before by 30 to start a season. and I guess they won by, like, 40, won by 35, and won by – They played Gonzaga in, like, championship of whatever, like Thanksgiving week tournament, and it was in Ken Palm, you know, which is what a lot of people use for, like, the best basketball teams in America's rankings. It was the highest ever non-conference one, and they beat Gonzaga by, like, 40. What? Yeah, they're killing – Holy shit. They're killing everybody right now. They're very good.

3:05:32The Big Ten is a problem. Iowa's good. Michigan State's good. Michigan's good. Illinois is good. Indiana. Purdue. Purdue. Is Indiana good? Yes, they're undefeated. The Big Ten is a wagon.

3:05:43Pat McAfee:They're undefeated, this guy. Yeah, of course he is. His boy shooting the ball really? His boy's a good player. Yes, he is. We didn't get to see a lot of him at West Virginia last year. Funny how that works out. Fucking guy. How's WVU at hoops? I think we're bopping a wood. Bringing it? I think we're bopping a wood. Russ Hodge, his boy's got him going in the right direction. Yeah, Rick Pitino's boy, just his team, Xavier, they came in and beat West Virginia, and they stink. But outside of that, they look good. West Virginia, we lost again? Yeah, you got to. Yeah, Xavier handled them. Well, that's the thing.

3:06:14Pat McAfee:We're still trying to find who we are. I get it. We got good recruits coming in, though. We got the highest-ranked recruit in the history of basketball coming in. Kevin might go over. They're 6-2. Okay. That's what we're talking about. Okay. We're trying to get better by March. They say January. Don't you play like one double-A teams the first six or seven games? No. Usually. Most squads do. I don't know about any of that. From what I've seen. I don't know about any of that. I don't know about any of that. Bring Huggy Bear back. They need Huggy Bear. We know that. It's January, February. Izzo.

3:06:44Pat McAfee:No. We're talking about the West Virginia coach right now. And his last name is Hodge. It's January, February, Hodge, April. Not Merrill. I look forward to it. Okay, that's his name. Jeez, let's get to the next. We beat the shit out of Pitt. I know that. 71-49.

3:07:03Adam Schefter:Pitt beat Ohio State on a buzzer beater.

3:07:05Pat McAfee:Oh, if so fact, West Virginia would run the fucking Big Ten. Okay. now that we have everything understood come on over well we need Texas Tech to get out of the Big 12 we need them take them first just too good too much money then West Virginia smart money not just money it's like I know calculate young young people with money as well too that will continue to give as you keep winning and they build up their suites their suites they get their suites are the nicest suites I've ever seen brand new they want to come to the games they're also very good at basketball they are very good and softball they spend a million bucks.

3:07:38Pat McAfee:Yeah. They would like their sports. Yeah. Kennedy. Yeah. Every game she bitched. Dog. Lost in the finals. She's back there, right? I think so, yeah. Haven't they been to three straight Elite Eights? On that note, Crooks just went crazy. Yeah. Crooks just went absolutely crazy. Look out for the Cyclones winning it all this year. If she's going to continue to do the stuff that she does on a basketball court, I don't know how anybody stops her. Honestly. I have no idea how anybody stops her. You can't stop her. She gets the rock and she just goes and does whatever she wants and it ends up a bucket.

3:08:22Pat McAfee:She's a weapon. They're the odds-on favorite to win a national championship? I doubt it. Hell no. What are you talking about? Fuck no.

3:08:30Adam Schefter:I love big body Audi. But we got Sarah Strong. We got dogs at UConn.

3:08:37Pat McAfee:UConn? You guys, your coach is going to Colorado State. They're 15th. What's that? They're 15th in odds to win the 90s. Like that value. Anything can happen. I'll take that. Connecticut's the favorite. Where's Fairfield? For now. For now. South Carolina, Texas. All right, let's get to another overreaction, shall we? It's fucking Brittany. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But I've had it with this fucking Steeler team. I'd rather be tortured in a North Korea prison where my teeth were ripped out one by one then watch another snap of this fucking sad sack of a shit team. Fire Tomlin and coaching staff into the fucking sun.

3:09:12Pat McAfee:Not the moon. The sun. Now, I do assume that bucking printing here will, much like Tone, have positive thoughts about Coach Tomlin if there was to be a parting of ways and some time to pass. But, boy, these Steelers fans are sick of punting on football season, basically, is what they're doing. They look forward to and gear up to football season. And then within the first three weeks of the year, they know if their team can win a Super Bowl or not. And for the last 10, it's just been like, nah, we can't. And I think they'd like to enjoy the fall. They'd like to see a little bit of change. I don't want to speak out of pocket.

3:09:47We would like to enjoy the fall. Also, these assholes showed some bright spots in the first month of the season. So it made it worse. We thought, you know, maybe the team can do it. Maybe they'll get better. Nope, they've gotten worse every single week. Leads at halftime at home against a lot of teams.

3:10:04Pat McAfee:But they lose by double digits to Seattle Seahawks, Green Bay Packers, and now the Buffalo Bills with the lead at half. You got Yinzers flocking down there. It's hard to get down there. We got tunnels and hills, traffic. I mean, a lot of shit to get down there. They get all the way down there in the cold, get into that stadium, and this team fucking loses by two scores? At least? Yeah, fucking right. They run the same running play 20 times for 260 yards. That was asinine. So disheartening. Don't. Don't was laughing. Don't fucking run Renegade. Josh Allen was laughing. He was laughing on his touchdown.

3:10:38I mean, it was like one of the most disrespectful, like non-Pittsburgh things. I mean, he's in the end zone laughing. Like that is just not what any of us eat. In the kitchen. Yeah, exactly. He's cooking bacon in his underwear in Pittsburgh.

3:10:54Pat McAfee:I used to be a fan of his. Fucked up. You used to be a fan of who? Josh Allen. He reminded me of seven. No, anymore seven wouldn't do any bullshit like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well said. Let's get to the next one, shall we? Jeez, Louise. This is from Salvi. At Salvi93, go Bills. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Bills just ran through the steel curtain like it was a tissue paper table at a tailgate. Old man Rogers was nearly driven back to Ayahuasca town. Let the Bengals come and get declawed, then off to Foxborough to get our fucking chain back. Hashtag, Bills Mafia. You feeling good about the Bills after the ass beating they just gave to the Pittsburgh Steelers?

3:11:33Pat McAfee:I think I am. I think that was like a morale builder, a big confidence boost for a Buffalo Beals team. They really came together. Anytime you have success running like this, yeah, especially when you don't have to get all, you know, you're not throwing anything crazy at you. You're not trying to trick them. You're just pretty much letting them know, hey, we're running right here, pal. You got to figure out a way to stop us. And when they could not stop you, yeah, I think that's a thing that not only your O-line, but your whole team kind of gains a lot of confidence from. Congrats to the Buffalo Bills.

3:11:59Pat McAfee:They're two starting tackles. I guess everybody knows that, too. Yeah, so they're only going to get better.

3:12:03Adam Schefter:Demoralized. But, no, Bills, I don't think they scare anybody at the top right now.

3:12:09Pat McAfee:Whoa. So what are you saying about the Steelers?

3:12:12Adam Schefter:What we've been saying for the last three and a half hours, they absolutely stink. But the Bills, you got Josh Allen, but I don't think – That's it. Yeah, you're not going to be able to run the ball down and throw, you know, the Broncos, the Patriots. Like, you're not going to be able to do that. The other team that they mentioned in that overreaction, the Bengals, if anything, kind of feeling pretty good about the Bengals. They just forced Lamar into four turnovers. It was insane.

3:12:35Pat McAfee:On that note, here is another overreaction from Carly Stallard. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but Joe Burr is back. It's December 1st, and Joey B is 18-4 in his career in December. Don't look now, but the Cincinnati Bengals run the table and sneak into the playoffs, especially with the Ravens and Steelers both being ass. who they you know uh joey burrow as a starter eight no his last eight games he's good okay he wins whenever he's playing now the baltimore ravens we all have a lot of questions about and why this season has gone the way that it's gone and where they are and all that type of shit we will certainly be talking about that this off season but with the cincinnati bangles still having a shot at this whole thing and joey b given the answer that he gave before it's a game we get paid a lot of money to do it so i'm gonna go do that most relatable thing we've heard from a starting quarterback in a long time.

3:13:23Pat McAfee:Joey looks good, D-butt. Now, none of us believe that the way their team is built, they can actually win in the playoffs. But if they were able to make it, I think that would be a hell of a story coming out of Cincinnati this season.

3:13:33Adam Schefter:Yeah, it's kind of the same situation we were in last year. At this point in the season, they had to go on a run. Their playoffs basically started now, and they can't lose. And that's just a tough spot to be in as a team, especially with how their team is constructed. Offensively, even when Burrow was out, They were going to put up 30-plus points, but whenever Burrow is taking snaps and Jamar Chase is out there, they got a chance to beat anybody on any given Sunday. Don't have faith in their defense, but, yeah, one of the best quarterbacks in the league whenever he's healthy and out there taking snaps.

3:14:04Adam Schefter:So they got a chance week in and week out, especially in this division where nobody kind of – I don't know what's going on with Baltimore. Like, their offense just looks – They stink. Yeah, they stink. On both sides of the ball, they're just not who we expect them to be at this point in the season. Lamar doesn't look the same for whatever reason. very, very concerned with kind of everybody right now in the AFC North.

3:14:23Pat McAfee:Joey B can spin that thing. He's Louise, he can spin it. And it's just like without missing a, like he's been out on his back and it's just right on cue. And to your point about last season, he's been expected to be perfect down the stretch and he has been. That's that December football talk that Carly was chatting about. Crazy stuff. Good for the Bengals. Who's the ruler of the jungle going for? AJ, you going to rule the jungle maybe? No, I don't think so. Did they win when Speed was there or no? Was that when Joe Burr came? No, they lost and then he went and watched the MLS game and they lost 2-0 for 2.

3:14:55He had a tough run since then. He was good in the ring. Yeah, he was great in the ring.

3:14:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was. He was at War Games? He should have been. He should be, yeah. He's good. He's good at basically everything. Is he the masked man? We don't know. Actually, I think I know who the masked man was. Just from looking at it, I think I know that person. I think I know him pretty well. Did Cena have a co-ed match? No, he got his ass beat by some women, though, yeah. In the ring? Badass women, though. Let's not get crazy here. Yeah, duh. Was it not a real match? Last time. He got hit by a Tejada bomb by a rock towel. Roger, he gets it. Oh. Then he took the pop rocks from Roxanne Perez. Oh, Jesus.

3:15:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, he's... Can't be doing anything. He's got his ass beat out of there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's what happens whenever you mix it up with the judgments. Morgan. And then Liv Morgan came and kicked him into Weewe. She called him John Weena afterwards. That's clever. Yeah, but she got him. I mean, she did one of these. That's Liv. It's my last PLE. Holy shit. Thank you, Liv. And she, I don't think so fucking Weena. She backs up. Did the fans love that? I'll tell you what, there's Big Pop, Dominic Mysterio, once again, the IC champ. What? Yeah, in San Diego, Petco Park, 48 ,000.

3:16:14Adam Schefter:I did see Eoskai.

3:16:17Pat McAfee:Off the top with the...

3:16:19Adam Schefter:Great spot.

3:16:20Pat McAfee:It is a good spot. It was interesting how it all came together. Because when you go off the top there, as somebody that has been a part of a War Games match, boy, it's not just the top of the cage, it's also where your head is, because it's where your eyes are. So, cage is how high? And then your head is up there? I'll tell you what, looking down looks a lot further than you thought it was going to when you were standing up there and you were standing on the ground and looking up there. I couldn't imagine. I mean, craziness. Absolute crazy. Those people in the ring, like, they were dazed for so long.

3:16:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, they were. Well, you kind of get hypnotized by the whole moment. Look how high that person is. Is that right? You know, that's kind of how it all goes. It's good, though. It's good. Let's go to the next ever reaction, shall we? Colin Groom, at Colin Groom. Hashtag I don't want to ever react. But Matt LaFleur is in his bag, bullying his way through the NFC North, and he's doing it from his barber's chair. The Packers will finish the season as the number one seed in the NFC. Hashtag never a doubt. Ty picks all these overreactions. Why this one for the Green Bay Packers? Just because, you know, a lot of people have been shitting on the floor the last several weeks, even when they've been winning.

3:17:23And I thought Thursday, you know, he coached to win that game. Like, they were very aggressive on fourth down. Like, they kind of needed to bully the Lions to do so. And Diggs has been talking about it. I basically want to do whatever I can to make sure that Jeff Halfley stays the defensive coordinator of the Packers. He's not. Anytime I can give LaFleur all the credit for them winning and none of it to Jeff Halfley, I'm going to continue to do that.

3:17:46Pat McAfee:That's smart play. That's an ownership move. That's what you are. You're an owner of this Packers team. AJ, they got obviously the Bears a couple times down the stretch. You think the Packers showcased on Thanksgiving that they can be a team that can actually win a Super Bowl? Oh, absolutely. That's why I think almost because we had a lot of great games yesterday, you forget about what these guys did on Thanksgiving Day. But, yeah, this is one of those things we talked about. This could have been a little turning point for the Green Bay Packers this year where they kind of put their foot on the gas and don't look back now.

3:18:13Pat McAfee:Jack White and Eminem. Great. Great work, boys. Absolute domination of a halftime show. You know, a lot of people might not know all of Jack White's work or all of the White Stripes work, and then you realize when you're watching, oh, this guy's a fucking rock star. Will he be entertaining? Yeah, the fucking rock star will be entertaining. I think he will. And the fact that he's actually playing, you know, the fact that he's actually playing, actually singing, and I like the way they set it up with the tight crowd, active crowd. Obviously, this is Eminem directing it and producing it. And then him coming out to Till I Collapse off of the cadence call.

3:18:50Pat McAfee:That's from one of the mixtapes, I think, from way back in the day. I think it was perfect. I think it was absolutely perfect and set the tone, you know, for what halftime shows can be. Post Malone in Dallas, I think, you know, having to follow Jack White and Eminem is certainly not a great spot to be in. You know, Post Malone, obviously platinum certified, absolute beast. Didn't have as much. Didn't have any guest appearances. Didn't have any surprise drop-ins. And then Lil Jon, I saw him in the morning at the Macy's Parade. I saw him at the Macy's Parade.

3:19:18Adam Schefter:Didn't see him.

3:19:19Pat McAfee:I think they had him up on, like, you know where you walk out and there's, like, a landing area in a stadium? Like right behind the goalpost. Yeah, it felt like he was up on one of those as opposed to on the field. So, Lil Jon, let him fucking explore the space. Let him explore the space. His catalog. Oh, he turned up the fucking Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. He turned it up. He showed up in there and literally everybody, even in your living room, you had to, Mackenzie, my daughter, started, then K-pop girls went. The demon hunters? Yeah, the demon hunters. Huntrix or something like that. They're fucking good at getting demons and singing catchy tunes.

3:19:53Pat McAfee:Daughter loves it. All right. Last one here from Sleeper Chiefs. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But the Chiefs are dead until we're not after we beat Houston. Win and look great. Lose and look pitiful. Nothing makes sense. Nobody knows what the hell is going on in the league. The AFC is wide open, and we might miss the freaking dance. I don't even want to be around anymore. All right. On that note, that's football, baby. Let's watch tonight. Who do you have again? Patriots. Me as well. D-butt? I'll go to Giants. They'll cover. I like that, D-butt. Boys, great work. Let's enjoy the hell out of this.

3:20:25Pat McAfee:It's December. It's meaningful football time. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your life and for doing this for a living. You're the greatest people on earth. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Goodbye.