PMS 2.0 1466 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 14 Recap, CFB Playoff Field Set, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

21:45Pat McAfee:Kalani Satake came out and said, we lost to the best team in the country. Everybody else is going to learn that, basically. He said, if we were to play again in the college football playoff, we think Texas Tech, that is the best team in the country, is what they described. They lose to them twice within a matter of four weeks or whatever, and they don't even get – now, they were out at the beginning. They were never really in because nobody knew how many Big 12 teams were going to get in there. BYU was going to have to steal the bid from Texas Tech with the way they had the college football playoff committee kind of set up over the last few weeks.

22:13Pat McAfee:But does that matter? None of that really matters. I think it's a weird process to get to it. It's very weird. And then Vandy Clark Lee, I appreciate him high-roading it. Basically, that's what Clark Lee did. Clark Lee just said, I'll high-road this thing. I think South Carolina did that last year. I think there was a couple other teams that were like, we could certainly make an argument if we wanted to, but this is on us. We need to do better next year. Lost the games. What's that? They lost the game. That's what makes football so great. It's not like the other sports where there are just so many games and so many different opportunities.

22:43You get one game a week, just like in the NFL. They matter so much. You never know when it's going to come back, whether it's week one or week four or week six, whenever that is, it'll impact your outcome. So I love when the coach just takes ownership of that, like, hey, it was in our control. We lost it. But with all the CFP things, and I love when the playoffs actually start in the games, especially when we get to go and do that shit, super dope. But after this, I was like, you know what? I wouldn't mind going back to a 14 playoff. I know everybody wants to go to 16. I wouldn't mind the old school when just, hey, somebody gets left out and these two teams get to play in the national championship or we get the four team because if we look at it now, and with that being the case, we wouldn't have gotten the Ohio State run that we got last year.

23:24I think they were an eight seed. But right here, those four teams, we all feel like probably are – out of those four is going to become the national championship. I would much rather – even for the kids, you got three, four more games in the season. Play these two more games, get a national championship. You get the bowl games. The other big bowl games mean something. But I understand the investment and the money and the playoffs. Now, at some point, five years from now, there will probably be 32 teams. No! Don't be putting that in the universe. This team got left out. That team got left out.

23:52Pat McAfee:This is what's happening with the Red Zone channel, what you just did right there. Oh, boy. We don't need to be talking about that. They had a great day yesterday. It happens. Tech is tech. True. Especially with weather. There's a chance that's going to happen. They should feel good about getting that kind of corrected as quickly as they did actually because that could have been a fucking failure. That could have been a flaw. Just as people who have gone through full technical failures. Oh, shit. As you're live. That's a nightmare. But they ran a Mercedes commercial as a great stat was being read by the commentator.

24:22Pat McAfee:You know, I forget the name of the player. Let's just say it was Patrick. It wouldn't have been Patrick. Anybody. ETN, maybe. We'll say. You know, ETN's actually the first guy to ever. And then right to a Mercedes Benz. I'm like, you mother. That is not how this is supposed to go. Can we at least wait until the octobox is up there instead of a stat? that I'm certainly going to wish that I have tomorrow that was about to be right, and you cut them off in the middle of the damn – and aren't we supposed to have some action on this side? If I'm going to have the damn Mercedes – beautiful car, by the way.

24:54Pat McAfee:That was a – I was so mad, and I was looking at it, and then as I was watching, I was like, it does seem like I got some good engineering right there. It does look like good. Now, granted, we go back to the game, guess what's gone? That's that forever. That thing is gone forever. These ears will never hear it. I forget who it was. But on that note, it can't get to 32. too, like 16 feels like that's coming. And that decision was almost made like last year. As soon as the 12 team came, they're like 16's next. And they like kind of punted it down the road. Feels like 16 is close. I hope no more than that.

25:23Pat McAfee:But to your point, I don't know if it's just those four, but we're going to find out through this that there's only going to be like two, three teams that are very much above everybody else is what we think is going to happen. And I used to agree with you and I still kind of agree with you, but the more and more we get into this NIL era and stuff like that, I think more teams is not a bad thing because when we just, we just did signing day or whatever. And it used to be the difference between the number one signing class and like the number eight signing class was like 85 recruiting points. Now that's between one and 32 is 85 recruiting points.

25:59So I think with the money and everything like that, the teams are getting a lot more closer. There's a lot more parity. So yes. Go out and win. Like sick. Go out and put a team together and go fucking 13-0. Also, Ohio State wouldn't have made the 14th playoff last year. Well, he did. UCF went undefeated and they had to make themselves. Well, they won a national championship. Yeah, of course. But, like, I don't know. I also think Oregon could win it. There's a chance Miami or A &M, if they get hot. Bama, if they figure out their offense, they were one of the best teams in the country. If over these next two weeks they can figure that out again, there's a chance.

26:31I'm not very confident in it, but there's a chance.

26:34Pat McAfee:Oregon, Oregon, good football team. Great football team. Oregon, a good football team. Quarterback, a coach. They lost their number one team in the country. Hey, come on, man. Let's talk about that. We were there for the Big Ten championship game. Wow. It was electric in there. Oh, yeah. I mean, last year's Big Ten championship, Penn State and Oregon, was loud. Penn State people were loud. Not a lot of Oregon people. But we were kind of in their corner. So we felt it. We knew they were there. That was mostly Penn State people last year. This year, Indiana fans, big. Ohio State people, big. Showed up.

27:04Pat McAfee:I mean, that was an awesome environment. Light shows? What was the split, you think? I'd say 60-40, probably. 65, maybe 60-40, I think. Indiana? Yeah, Indiana, I'd say. But it was hard to tell. It was close, though. You know, because red. Similar colors. Yeah, so it was hard. But it was loud for the Hoosiers. Like, tone was obviously locked in from the jump. But the pyro, the light show, everything that happened for the game was loud. It felt big. It was an electrifying environment. Like, we were down at the SEC Championship down in Atlanta when we were on the sideline. loud like that's in an nfl stadium comfortable stadium and you could tell it's a college game like i think the college atmosphere is different than the nfl atmosphere especially in the stadiums this one felt like a it felt like a national champion i mean it was very loud it was very real and what the hoosiers did was special man especially in the city a lot of people crying from happiness i heard paul feinbaum say this was the least important number one versus number two game in history or whatever.

28:02Pat McAfee:It's like, well, Indiana doesn't have to see Georgia until the finals because they're the number one team in the country. And also, they just won their first fucking Big Ten since World War II. You tell Hoosier fans that that game did not matter. Okay? And then you can also ask the Ohio State people if that game mattered or not. I'm still getting yelled at because I was shirtless with a hole in my jeans looking like a douchebag at a college football game from the people of Ohio. Pretty jacked, though, I must say. Pretty jacked, I must say. They were bouncing around, obviously, on the Jumbotron.

28:29Pat McAfee:I believe two before me, a man took off like a shirt, but didn't go fully shirtless. And then they drop onto me and Tyrese Halliburton. I felt obligated. That's the Ohio State section. Right behind us was the Ohio State fan base. Oh, yeah. We're having a good time in there. We've got to do it. D-Bone's rocking his long hair. New life. Indiana. Mendoza. Boston. Connor over there on the left side. Bill going crazy. There's a Hoosier, by the way. Go back. Can you just go back? Look at the lower right corner. Look at the lower right corner, Paul Feinbaum. You think this game didn't matter. Look at that guy.

29:01Pat McAfee:Hammer drunk. I mean, absolutely hammer drunk. It was a special night in there. It was a special night in there for Indiana. And I think they proved, maybe to the world, because Ohio State's a damn good football. I mean, you watch them jog out right in front of us. And then Caleb Downs is doing his warm-ups. Arvel Reese is there. I mean, they are that's the biggest group of men I think I've ever seen assembled. I mean, it is outrageous. And then for Indiana to win, special night. So you could say a game didn't matter. It did, especially with Indiana as the number one team in the country. That changes things for the CFP going forward.

29:36Pat McAfee:But also, this entire state was just a woke, brother, into becoming, if you weren't already, Indiana's for real and not a mockery. Because most times, I think a lot of even the hater Hoosier fans, football fans, are like, Ohio State's going to go. This is, Cignetti's doing a lot of this. Boom, they're going to do that. Yeah, right, they win the Big Ten. I loved being there. It was a great environment. I lost my voice. I was very worried this morning that I was not going to have a voice because we enjoyed the hell out of the experience, Conman. Yeah, it was fantastic. You mentioned Paul Feinbaum.

30:04Paul Feinbaum's also a dipshit. When Signetti got his eight-year,$93 million extension, he said it was terrible. And now it's probably the best college coaching deal in America, especially because he's probably valued at more so$15 million, $13 million at least a year. Sig, you can't really say enough about him. I mean, the players he brought in, you mentioned, it's a lot of misfits. I forget, Pat Coogan gave the speech last week. and Mendoza kind of talked about it, about how they are a bunch of misfits. It's a bunch of guys who are from all over the country, and they came together, and Cignetti was kind of the glue to give them the confidence, let alone Mendoza.

30:39Mendoza is another guy you can't really say enough about. He got absolutely eviscerated on the first play of the game. He was on the ground. I thought there was a chance. We thought it was over. Bang! And Curry's a problem, first of all.

30:52Pat McAfee:92, he's from Indianapolis. What the hell is he doing over there? Yeah, hometown kid. Why don't you come back to IU, son? But that was insane. And you see that, and that's when you kind of think like, okay, this is the difference. Ohio State, the physicality, the size, everything that they're about, you're about to see kind of how that separates them from everybody else. But then IU answers the call. I mean, Mendoza pops back up. His brother pops in for one snap, but then he's back into the game. Place goes crazy when he jogs back in, by the way, as you could have expected. his brother's playing quarterback Alberto Mendoza and his family there beautiful moment after the game and then Fernando comes jogging his ass back on in the next play place goes absolutely apeshit hard not to love Fernando Mendoza he'll be joining us in about an hour yeah that's part of the team like next man up Omar Cooper actually got hurt on the first drive we really didn't see him and that's when Charlie Becker kind of gets his opportunity again similar to earlier in the season when Cooper went down and Becker went for 180 in one game.

31:52This is why Indiana is Indiana. They just don't care. They don't blink. If someone goes down, next guy is up. And Surratt, Elijah Surratt's one of the best wide receivers in college football. Now, I say that also while looking at Jeremiah Smith pregame and saying to you guys, the gourd on me to think I could play college football when you see some of the guys on the field when it is Ohio State and IU. But it was one of those things where you can see this game happening again down the road because all year we don't talk about Ohio State because of how dominant they are. They're going to continue to go.

32:24I assume we're going to see them, even though Texas A &M is one of those teams that's going to play in the first round that you could see going on a run as well. But it was just fantastic to be there, fantastic for a game to kind of feel as big as it truly was. Because if you think about last year, Penn State-Oregon Big Ten Championship, it didn't feel like how it felt in there on Saturday night. And, you know, when you get to go to those big-time games and they live up to the hype, I'm sure 13-10, you're watching at home, doesn't probably feel as special as it does inside of that stadium. But it was a hell of a ball game.

32:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's like a pitcher's duel, like a good pitcher's duel because it was electrifying. There was big moments throughout the low-scoring game. And obviously we're going to show the offensive highlights, big-time highlights, but that defense, like that defense showed – both defenses, they're a phenomenal defense, two best defenses in the country. But getting after Julian Sands' ass, he was sacked five times, I think coming into this game, he had only been sacked six times in a whole season. We know with pressure, that changes everything when it comes to the defense. You have those weapons. Jeremiah Smith, he's going to make fantastic plays, which he did, which he always will.

33:24But to kind of limit him from wrecking the game and getting after the quarterback, making him uncomfortable, like you said, you can't say enough about Sig. This is the best coaching job I know that I've ever seen in my lifetime when it comes to big-time college level.

33:37Pat McAfee:Just creating a program. Indiana did not have a football program. Like, that cannot be – they had people that put on pads and played football. But it was, like, in front of 250 people. Like, actually 200 – all the NIL money, basketball. Mark Cuban, everybody going to basketball. And then the basketball team hadn't won in a long time either. Then they hired Signetti, and I think if you ask the president, Pam Witten, she goes – she comes from Georgia. I do believe her previous work was at Georgia. and she very much understands what the football team and what sports can do for a university. And it's like alignment from literally top all the way through the bottom of what the goal is.

34:17Pat McAfee:Because I think new president there, Pam, she wants to have her impact on the school too. And it's like, didn't have a football team. Now we have one because of an investment that we made. And then Signetti, whenever he's asked like, hey, do you want to go to Penn State? He goes, no. You want to stay here? Yup. All right, we're going to do a new deal for you. Good. I'm going to watch this film. two days later makes the announcement I'm here until forever yeah whatever the case is it's like this isn't just for now this is for a foreseeable future Ty Schmidt yeah and you mentioned it and he said it on the show like one of he one of the first things he did when he got to IU was jump the AD's ass because you know it wasn't like hey I'm not coming in here to go eight and four to go seven and six and have people be like wow Indiana sucked forever this will be good enough it was like no I I understand that people think I'm just like a brash arrogant asshole and I'm saying hey hey, Purdue sucks and Ohio State sucks and so does Michigan.

35:08But he was like dead serious. And he was the only one that actually believed it. And then things start happening and everyone else starts believing it. But that's the big thing because I think even me as like an Iowa fan and then you look at other Big Ten schools, I think after last year it was just like, that was cute, that was nice. That can happen in this era of college football. You can flip something in one year and go on a magical run. But now let's see you do it year in and year out because we know how good the Big Ten is. and then for him to respond this way and to have a better team this year than they had last year, like, there is no doubt now.

35:38Like, Indiana, you know, and then this is before you even start now, you're going to see the four-star and the five-star recruits want to start going to Indiana because the proof's in the pudding. It's like, hey, if you come here, not only are we going to develop you, but we have all the resources, and, like, this is not the last time we're going to win the Big Ten championship. This is not the last time we're going to be potentially the number one seed in the college football playoff. Like, this is the expectation now.

36:02Pat McAfee:The conference championship weekend was crazy. First time, long time. First Big Ten title in 58 years for Indiana. First real conference title in 49 years for Texas Tech. Congrats to them, Cody Campbell and the boys down there. And then Duke, first ACC title in 36 years. Duke was certainly a fascinating one, you know, because there is a theory or a thought that maybe the CFP just didn't want to leave the ACC out. Probably. Right? So that is why Miami moves up so drastically. Because they're like, we can't put Duke in. So then because Duke wins, that's Tulane, that's James Madison because they're champions, fuck it.

36:39Pat McAfee:So you drop Duke out. And then maybe the CFP is like, well, ACC is one of our power. This is one of our big ones. We got to have somebody in there. So maybe that's why they jumped Miami up there. Then it just feels like you're desperate to do stuff just to do stuff. Then you're not trying to get the actual good teams. But, hey, they got a tough job. Happy, I don't got to do it. I am thankful, though, that we got a chance to experience championship weekend in a huge way. and I think we kind of saw exactly how it was all going to go, but it was an exciting Saturday for college ball. Let's go to the four headline.

37:07Good picks by you, by the way.

37:08Pat McAfee:Yeah. Just while we're on it. Great picks. Thank you. Felt pretty good out there. How'd you do? Yeah, I got them all right. All of them? Yeah, so, I mean, there was only a couple games, but I got Navy Army next week. I picked Navy, maybe. We'll see how it goes. I feel, yeah. Duke and it. Yeah, half of them were that. Yeah, sometimes I feel really confident about games. You guys have seen it on this show. On game day, if you hear me actually say, like, congratulations to people, I'm about 100 % sure that's happening. Did it with Indiana up at Oregon. I said, congratulations, Kurt Signetti. You get your biggest win today.

37:41Pat McAfee:It's like I'm 100%. From the film study that I watch, from the stats that I watch, and from the vibes in which I'm getting from the team, I'm 100 % sure. It doesn't happen all the time. But, boy, it's great when that happens, you know, when the body aligns. It's like, yes, Georgia over Alabama felt the easiest almost of the season. It was like the most obvious, I thought, just strictly because how good Georgia's been playing. Not that Alabama hadn't been playing good, but I think Georgia's. Yeah. I think they're – and once again, that's because you've got to watch and then we've got to feel the vibes.

38:11Pat McAfee:Kirby on that set – I mean, Kalen was wearing a gangster-ass suit. Yeah, he was. Sick suit. I thought that was a loud suit to be playing in the SEC championship like that. I thought that, wow, this guy's got to be really confident. it then I noticed two buttons there was a button on the right side and a button on the left side couldn't button the button because there was no hole there was only two buttons don't press it no this jacket you know how they go together two buttons here mm-hmm top button button on this side and button on this side no hole so he was trying to button that fucking thing couldn't button it there was a button on both sides told me everything I need give me Georgia so I pointed it out.

38:50Pat McAfee:Couldn't button it. Couldn't button it. That thing was sitting next to each other, but he could not button it. He was trying to button it for like two minutes before the thing started. Literally, I was sitting there next to him, and he was trying to button it. I'm like, what the hell is going on? This guy's an incredible ball coach. He's got good dexterity. He does the entire thing. And I look at the suit. Two buttons. And I'm like, close, that suit. That suit was very close to being in the game. If that thing would have been perfect, if that would have happened, I would have picked Bama strictly because you have to have the most amount of confidence in the history of confidence to wear that suit, walk into Atlanta, Georgia, in game day, wearing that thing, playing.

39:21Pat McAfee:I was like this close. Then I saw him. I was like, oh, I can't do it. And then Kirby's sitting next to me just chilling. It's like, Kirby knows. Kirby knows. Why wouldn't he bark? What's that all about? I don't know. I kind of like it, though. Yeah, I'm not your puppet. Yeah, I kind of like it. He barked at the end, though. He gave one of those. All right, it's got a number four headline as we will motor through these because we have a man waiting for us. It's currently Josh Allen season. Him in the snow doing what he did yesterday is exactly how I think of Josh Allen. Right? Is that not kind of like that?

39:54Pat McAfee:It used to happen with Green Bay, how, you know, the frozen tundra, you would see snow, you would see that. Anytime there's snow down, Aaron Rodgers, I think, kind of had this appeal when it was cold, Aaron Rodgers was going to ball. It feels like that with Josh Allen. Now, they're down 10. Okay, they're down 10 in this particular game against Joey Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals. But it's just like it feels like Josh Allen is at his best whenever there is snow on the ground. It's cold as hell, and he's out there just doing stuff that nobody else can do. Josh Allen's special. We're currently in Josh Allen's season.

40:22Pat McAfee:He was the MVP of last year, and it feels like he's only gotten better somehow. Absolutely. He's the quarterback that you build on, Matt, and he can make all the throws. He can make all the runs. Like, that throw he made to Kincaid was ridiculous. I don't care if that was in a dome in perfect conditions, let alone out there in snowy conditions. This is why you play in western New York and draft this type of quarterback to be there because if you can get there, and obviously it won't be this year where you're hosting a bunch of playoff games, but this is why you do it and this is who you do it with.

40:48His performance was another all-time performance from Josh Allen. It's just the defense. And the defense stepped up and made some big-time timely plays. Christian Benford, that pick six was absolutely ridiculous. Kind of changed the game once they kind of took this league. You could tell it completely shifted the momentum to Buffalo's side. Big-time game from Josh Allen and some of those other Buffalo Beals stepping up.

41:08Pat McAfee:Congrats to the Beals hitting a huge win over Cincinnati. Cincinnati now out. Josh Allen targeting tight ends versus the Bengals here. Hembo said that guy's that guy yeah we go back to that guy please I'm so sorry I missed that we should we should have kept that guy on longer go ahead let him do his thing yeah this guy boom we love that guy I want to let that guy know thank you for your excitement boom and perfectly timed boom on camera as if the cameraman lets you know in the full cell there the full cell from the eyes the mouth his whole soul is pumped about what's happening there hard that is football yeah hard that you're right there's no way that's the warmest piece you could be wearing up there, but he says, Tom, go work and support the boys.

41:45Pat McAfee:Let's go ahead and do that. We love you. Here's some Hembo stats about Josh Allen when he was targeting tight ends. Tanox, 93 yards, perfect. Kincaid, 4 of 6, 41 yards at Tud. And then Hawes, 1 for 1, 3 yards at TD. With his running ability, everybody has to kind of watch that. Tight ends can kind of do their dance. He's special. Can our defense go? We shall see. Number 3, headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes. He's a good one. Alambo Leap. in a Chicago slide. Green Bay proved themselves to be real, it felt like. And Chicago Bears, great football team. Maybe about a year out, I think, is what we learned from yesterday's game.

42:22Pat McAfee:Could we be completely wrong? Yes. But is there moments in Caleb Williams' game where you think, man, he's only going to get better at this and only going to get better at this? When he does that alongside all this other shit, they're going to be special. But Green Bay, you talked about Christian Watson earlier today. We knew he was fast. We knew he was big. We knew he was a playmaker. Would he develop into this? I don't think anybody could have known. Jordan Love certainly loves that fact. LaFleur loves that fact. Undefeated against Ben Johnson in head-to-head matchups, by the way, which a little bit of chatter, which I respect, especially because it is a big rivalry between Chicago and Green Bay.

42:54Pat McAfee:And then the defense is electrifying to watch. I mean, there's massively athletic dudes around the quarterback all the time when the Green Bay Packers defense is on the field. It's just a fun brain to watch. Like, it is just a fun style. Jordan Love's a gunslinger, seemingly a little bit tighter. Defense is always going to be harassing the quarterback and on the back end to make plays. Green Bay is for real. Is that what we learned yesterday, you think, Ty? Yeah, I think so. I mean, the offense, you were kind of just waiting all season for them to kind of sure things up and not be so inconsistent from game to game.

43:21And they got Jaden Reed back yesterday, which was massive as well. They finally kind of have their unit on the offensive line, which has been huge. That plagued them really. But that's the biggest thing. It's been the story all year. I mean, in the history of this show, how many times have we come in here on a Monday and I've been bitching and whining about the defense because they gave up 200 and whatever rushing yards, that's not the case anymore. The Bears certainly made plays, but for the first time since really the Packers won the Super Bowl, you feel like the defense is going to go out there and stop whoever's across from them on every single play.

43:54You talk about how athletic they are. That's the thing. It's not just that the defense is great. They're exceptionally fun to watch.

44:00Pat McAfee:And not only fun to watch and athletic and everything like that, Chicago had multiple explosive runs, 10 yards in every game that they played this season. They were averaging four and a half, at least 10-plus yard runs. Remember, we were talking about that being a big part of it in the throwing game, just kind of being a thing. Green Bay didn't allow a single one, 32 attempts. It just felt like Green Bay showed up. In Chicago, to their credit, gritty. I mean, they were down and out. They were second half. Came back into that thing, tied up that game. That Josh Jacobs run we showed with 520 left there on the right side where he powers through somehow, that was gigantic.

44:30Pat McAfee:That was absolutely gigantic because not only do you only kick a field goal there, which we assume you will make. But also, Chicago's getting the ball back now, and they're doing their thing. Instead, this turns into a touchdown, 28-21, momentum completely in the Packers' favor, and they closed the deal out. So special stuff happening in Green Bay. We're happy for you, Ty. Let's go to the number two headline around the NFL. We can all see it, right? I think so. We all can see the NFC. Yep. Now, tonight's going to be a determiner. You know, the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Chargers. If the Eagles lose tonight, we will take them off this graphic.

45:08Pat McAfee:We will say we don't think they are for real. Is that because we just live in the moment and react like that? Possibly. But Green Bay, Seattle, and L.A., all seemingly very, very, very, very, very good at football. Now, granted, L.A. laid an egg against Carolina Panthers. Now, they would say we didn't lay an egg. Carolina Panthers are a good football team. There's a chance Carolina Panthers can still go on a run and make it in the playoffs and maybe win a Super Bowl. Maybe. Maybe win a Super Bowl in this entire thing. But what Seattle's been able to do this year, LA's been able to do this year, and Green Bay have been doing this year thus far, feels like that's probably the NFC Super Bowl representative.

45:40Definitely. And out of these rows, I mean, it looks like Green Bay kind of has the toughest road. If nine can keep playing some good football, we don't know what Baltimore is. Chicago's a good football team. And obviously, you know, the Broncos sitting on top of the AFC right now. But yeah, I think the representative will come from these four for sure. Huge game for the Eagles and the Chargers tonight, but big-time game for the Eagles to kind of stay in tune. I think for them to build some confidence. I know they installed the bunny in the locker room, the positivity bunny. We'll see if that can turn some vibes around.

46:09Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what. Anytime my daughter sees a bunny, she says, hop, hop, hop, because of the show, hop, hop. And there's a chance they hop themselves into better vibes with this damn bunny. There's a chance that that happens. Anything can happen. Number one storyline coming out of yesterday, a prime-time problem, the Texans' defense. If they're playing in your stadium, you're going to be booing. Your team, middle of second quarter, maybe even beginning of second quarter, depending upon how the first quarter goes. They are a problem. This Houston Texans defense is very, very good at seemingly everything.

46:43Pat McAfee:We talk about big athletic dudes around the quarterback all the time. They got that. Back end, stingy. Tigre has a huge game here. I mean, you're talking about they came into Indianapolis and just shut us down completely. I mean, and you want to boo just because you're so bored. It's like it's out of game. I would like to see my team do something good. Well, your defense is doing cool. I'd like to see the offense do something. Against Houston Texans, I don't know if your offense is going to do much good things. I honestly don't think that is going to be happening. And the Chiefs just so happen to be the most recent victim.

47:11Pat McAfee:Now, on that note, a couple big-time drops by the Kansas City Chiefs in some big-time moments where they could still be the Chiefs today. But now the entire conversation is, wait a minute, the Chiefs are dead. Their dynasty is dead. It's like Alex Smith said in the pregame, you talked about Alex Smith earlier, I thought he did a great job. We all watched leading into the college football playoff. Alex Smith was saying a lot of things. I think he said the Houston Texans are a better football team than the Kansas City Chiefs. And I think a lot of people were saying, hey, that's a hot take. That's a hot take.

47:35Pat McAfee:I don't think you've been watching the Houston Texans. If C.J. Stroud and the offense can do anything, which they were able to do last night, this defense is going to have them in every game. And they can't be on TV because the home team is going to be getting booed because no matter how great they are, this Houston Texans team is going to make it look effortless, seemingly, on the defensive side. Well, and they're the definition of, oh, they started 0-3. This team stinks. We don't have to think about them for the season. And then, boom, halfway through the year, they're playing their best football.

48:01You look at the rest of their schedule, too. They've got the Cardinals, the Raiders, the Chargers, and the Colts. They can easily run the table and win their division. We're talking about a team that wasn't in the playoff picture, actually legitimately was below the seventh seed up until right now, the entire year. And now they might end up hosting another playoff game. And they've won playoff games the last two years. You know, C.J. Stroud, his rookie year, in his second year, he never really had a slump. Now he got banged up, and that stinks. but when you have a defense like this and then you have an offense that has two rookie wide receivers that kind of have to find their way, they've found their way.

48:35Stroud is back. Their defense isn't just good. It's possibly the greatest defense in the history of football. I mean, it's amazing to watch. But, again, to your point, to the headlines point, stop putting them in in prime time because it stinks for the other team and for people watching who aren't Texans.

48:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's going to be a slow football game when a Houston Texans defense is on the field, unless C.J. Stroud runs it up. So that is kind of the difference. Current playoff picture for the AFC. Broncos sitting at number one alongside the Patriots. Jaguars, damn. Hey, it's a good football team. It is a good football team. That's a good football team. Liam Cohen down there, he's good. Yeah. He's like really, really good. Stoner, really, they don't even have the number two overall pick in Travis Hunter right now. That was a huge part of the plan. That was going to be two positions. Pick up Kobe Myers.

49:23He looks great.

49:23Pat McAfee:Boom. Unbelievable. It's like all the moves they're making are good. And Daniel Jones, obviously, tears his Achilles in the middle of the game, which is – I want to let Danny Dimes know that I love him. And we appreciate what you did for the Indianapolis Colts. You were the man. We are so sorry that that happened to you. I would assume that there's going to be some sort of correlation between fractured fibula on one leg and then other, like, making up for things and then something happening. And, Danny, thank you for your service to Indianapolis. I hope – I hope, like God, you're a quarterback going forward.

49:53Pat McAfee:But once again, he got a long road. Thanks for walking off the field like an absolute boss. Okay? Thanks for walking off the field. Thanks for showcasing your grit all year. Thanks for playing through a fractured fibula for us. Thanks for putting us into a spot that we hadn't been in a long time. Thanks for giving us some belief. And on that note, Godspeed on recovery. Riley Leonard is about to do something special. He's about to go on a run. He didn't get a lot of reps. So I think when he gets dropped in a game, it's a little bit difficult. He runs for one, throws for one, does his thing. Obviously, I know her name.

50:22Pat McAfee:Maybe he can make playoffs unlike Notre Dame. But Jags are for real. The Houston Texans obviously for real in the AFC. Steelers get a huge win. Bills obviously look special. Chargers tonight will see Texans round it out. And then the Colts are lurking. The Ravens are lurking. The Chiefs are lurking. Who else is lurking? What the hell is this? Miami Dolphins are lurking. Six and seven, the same record. Won four in a row. Joining us now for a quick update on all things happening around the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN. Adam Schefter. Schefter, thank you for hanging out with us here.

50:55Pat McAfee:We just went through the AFC playoff picture there. Danny Dimes tears his Achilles. Obviously, that's horrendous news. We're all pulling for him. Any other massive injuries around the NFL to any positions of pertinence that you have any updates on that we need to think about here as we roll out of Week 14? Well, obviously, Brian Branch tears his Achilles last week as a part of this past week, but it was Thursday, so you forget that. Then we get another Achilles with Daniel Jones-Zacher. Gertz yesterday tore his ACL. That looked like a devastating injury, and you hope that Zach Gertz can come back from that one, but that was ugly-looking and obviously problematic at this stage of his career.

51:32A few of the bigger injuries from this weekend, and of course you mentioned tonight, some guys coming back from injury. Amari and Hampton coming back from a fractured ankle. I expect that he'll be activated before 4 p.m. Eastern, and Justin Herbert, at this time last week, has his left hand operated on. has a plate and screws put in his left hand. He's going to be out there, we think, a week later playing with a plate and screws, which, again, there are doctors out there that say it's a risk for him to be out there, but Justin Herbert's a warrior, and it sounds like he's going to be out there, and hopefully he stays upright and can play the full game.

52:10Pat McAfee:Okay, let's talk about Chiefs-Texans last night. We love Herbert, by the way. Incredibly tough. We led the show with that. Can't wait to see him tonight. I love you saying there are doctors that say you shouldn't play with a plate and screw in your left hand if you're going to be taking a snap in there and potentially get hurt. That's the difference out there with hardball football and Herbert football. We appreciate them for that. Let's talk about last night. Texans defense outrageous. Obviously, they're insane. Everybody's calling now the Chiefs dynasty over. I think Mike Greenberg said it this morning like four times.

52:38Pat McAfee:You slept last night while a dynasty crumbled because they're completely out of the AFC West championship conversation. What is your big takeaway from last night, and what are some things we should look out for? Well, I think that the Chiefs' current version of the dynasty is over, but they're going to have Patrick Mahomes, and so they're going to have to figure out a way to kind of improve the offensive line, upgrade the offensive line. They need to come up with a running back. There's going to be a decision that has to be made on Travis Kelsey, who I think has a cap figure next year for close to$20 million.

53:10So there are going to be some huge decisions involving some big names that involve the future of what has been a team that has won nine straight titles. This will be the first year since 2015 that there'll be a new winner in the AFC West. So there really have not been many runs in all of sports like the one the Chiefs have had. We have the Patriots in football. We have the Chiefs in football. How many teams, how many franchises have won nine straight division titles in any sport? So I think that you take a moment to pay respects to this franchise for everything it did. Yep, there you go, Pat. Good job.

53:49Moment of silence. Okay. And now we'll see if they can somehow find a way to make it back to the playoffs this year. They're going to have to win out and get some help. It's going to be tough, but not out of it just yet.

54:00Pat McAfee:Okay. On that, you talk about Travis,$20 million cap hit. There's been another name that has obviously been synonymous with this dynasty. Yeah, Shefty, a lot of people talking about Andy Reid. We all here, especially on this program, love Andy Reid and don't think any changes should be made at all. But is there any coaching change, not just the head coach, but across the board with KC that we might see? Well, I think an organization is always going to examine everything after the season. And I think people expect Matt Nagy and Steve Spagnuolo to get head coaching interviews. So I don't think Kansas City is going to be making any big voluntary wholesale changes to its coaching staff.

54:37These guys are in demand. They're respected. So I don't see that happening. And, you know, we've talked about Andy Reid. Could this be his last year for a long time? And every time that comes up, he seems to sign another extension. I think he enjoys being at the office. And if you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, we'll probably not want to be there.

54:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, not bad leverage, though, to everybody saying, he might just retire his resume's locked in. And I guess if you guys sign me to another deal, I'll do it. I like that. It's not a bad play. People have been doing it for a long time. Last question here from D. Budge. Yeah, Jaden Daniels. He got banged up again yesterday in his return, and they said it held him out being precautionary. What's the deal with him? Are they going to shut him down going forward now that they're 3-10 and out of it? You know, I would have thought they would have shut him down now, but I think there are people that wanted him to play, wanted him to be out there.

55:23He felt healthy. He hurt the same elbow, goes down. To me, it's an easy decision. Jaden, we appreciate you wanting to play. We understand how much you want to play. We're going to sit you down here. We're out of the playoffs. will start gearing up for a great season in 26. But right now, this whole season has gotten away from the commanders. They lose Zach Ertz to a season-ending torn ACL. Jaden Hurts' elbow again. Like, what are we doing? Why are we putting him out there? I know football players play. I got it. I got it. To me, a guy that's taking so much hits and has some injury issues, I'm not letting him play.

55:56That's me, but it's not my team.

55:57Pat McAfee:Okay, because we only got a minute because we were talking too long and didn't get to you fast enough for actual news and journalism. Joe Burrow, that conversation is going to come up again. Joe Burrow, they lose another game. What's the playoff picture look like? Are we going to keep him out there with how much we pay him? And he said, we play a kid's game for a lot of money. I've got to play ball. That was his response. Jaden Daniels, same story, different weeks. They both come back. They both come back when people thought they wouldn't be back. Respect to them, and we'll see how they handle it.

56:25Pat McAfee:Hat tip to both of them and to you. You're the man. We appreciate you. How mad are you about Notre Dame not being in the playoff? I'm okay. It doesn't faze me one bit. Pat, I'm more pissed off about my fancy football teams sucking the gas pipe yesterday. That was bad. God, can't be sucking gas pipes. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Schefter. Thanks, guys. Inhaling the fumes, donning it. Double-handed, he said. Yeah, he did. Jeez. That's what he said on me, man. Yeah, sucking pipe. Sucking it down. Goblin pipe. All right, hour two, be on the other side. Be your friend, tell your friend something nice.

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57:39Pat McAfee:Football is magical. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. We appreciate the hell out of you for allowing us to do this. The Talks to Tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. And nine-year NFL veteran. Super cool hoodie. Not as cool as Tom Brady's leather thing. Very cool. He did look super cool. Leather gloves inside. Yeah. Right here, too. He's going to be warm. Yeah, certainly. And keep it near your heart, too, so he can feel what he's really feeling there as he's calling the game. Fork temperature.

58:11Pat McAfee:Doing a great job. Darius J. Bullers. Baby, baby, bud. I've never seen that. This one here. It's a gold guy to be warm. You know, because this jersey has the hands, like, right here. that was quite a development of jerseys technology when they started putting the hands in the jersey because the old you know hand warmer thing it just used to bounce around it's so much a necessity yeah the muff a necessity for sure i was a big time muff wearer for sure i i love the muff you know i would certainly have that thing on there especially because your hands get dry when it's super cold so in there you get a little moisture especially if you're gonna be catching a ball without a glove but it was always so big you know it was always a once they started putting them in the jersey i was like genius this is absolutely genius so for tom brady to do the jersey thing but with like a jacket so he just has it kind of in there that was super cool and also definitely showing everybody every chance he got that he had it yeah hey my shit's right here dude that was he looked cool also respect burkhart with no gloves on just keeping him out you know hands i respect him but brady brady kind of went in on how his routine of like playing in cold games and keeping a bunch of hot packs in there we all you know i've heard about the scuba gear whatever underneath the past.

59:23I thought that was pretty cool, especially in those elements in Lambeau where you got to deal with.

59:26Pat McAfee:Brady, good. I think he's good. He's gotten a lot better. I mean, there's people that don't like him calling the game, I guess, but I don't think they're coming from it from a standpoint of this guy's the greatest of all time to ever play this game. So, like, I would like to think that he can say whatever. I say this about a lot of ex-players. Like, hey, they're allowed to say whatever they want. It's their league. It's their sport. Like, they're the ones that literally have laid down what this game is, especially if they're notable and had great careers. So, they're allowed to say whatever the hell they want to say.

59:50Pat McAfee:Like, that is legitimately what it is. It's their sport. The greatest of all time, every single week, is good. You know, certainly gotten better. You know, there was times where he was speaking or talking about shit that we didn't think made sense as an audience. But once he starts diving into stuff, it's, yo, the GOAT is speaking currently. Let's go ahead and pay attention to that. Yeah, it seems like he's realized, too. Like, the only time we notice that the booth is terrible is if it's a bad game and it's kind of on those guys to be entertaining. Like, I think at this point, like, that game was so good, he understands like, hey, I'm just an additive to this.

1:00:22Like, I don't need to kind of be the reason that people are watching this game. And I feel like some guys don't really understand that. It's like, you know, hey, the game is the main story here. And then whatever you add, when you got a guy like Brady who like some of the stories he was coming in, like, oh, you know, me and Julian Edelman used to run this play all the time. Like stuff like that is awesome. And I think he's gotten much better with knowing when to throw that stuff in there.

1:00:45Pat McAfee:On that note about calling games, congrats to Josh Pate, Harry Douglas, Will Compton, Taylor LeJuan, an incredible all-cast down here at the SEC. We appreciate them doing that. It's almost that season now, boys. Yeah, it is. Once you see that CFP go to 12 and now it's going to be counting down to 1, that means standing on the sidelines of very big games in very important places, in places we're not supposed to be calling games. Cannot wait to dive into all of that. Joining us now is a man that, you know, is right there next to us everywhere. Just breaking down the things he sees. Yeah. The Rose Bowl last year, his kid didn't even get a chance to hear his name getting chanted by the entire stadium because he puked over an entire section, had to go to an emergency hospital in the middle of the Rose Bowl, and AJ didn't find out until the third, fourth quarter, his whole family was gone.

1:01:31Pat McAfee:Bummer. That's a bad halibut. That's what I heard. And that's an aggressive thing to eat anyways, but I had a little food problem going on yesterday. Nothing like whenever your body feels like it's got to exit everything from the north and the south. That was certainly a day yesterday. I had a good time at that Big Ten championship. I don't know what I ate in there, but there was something that certainly got cooking yesterday. Joining us now is a man who's never sick, has never pooped or puked. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J.

1:02:01Pat McAfee:Hall. We're back. Yeah, we are. We're back. Yeah, we are. We're back. You gave up? Oh, yeah. No, I didn't give up. I just got a little trim. You know, I don't know. Who knows? I'm getting sick of doing anything. It was a journey. We were on a journey. You know, trying to speak. Yeah, yeah. I had to grow up. I was just up really high on the side, so I got to grow that. You know, just we're not going to take it up as high on the sides, probably. Oh, so not as high and tight. Just a little medium, mid-range jumper we want. I guess, yeah. I don't know. I don't have a plan, like I said before. But, yeah, I don't know.

1:02:30Hell of a game. I'm glad you guys were there. Obviously, Ohio State loses. That sucks. But it's hard not to respect and like the Indiana football team and their players, honestly. It really is.

1:02:38Pat McAfee:Okay. I didn't know you were – I just want to let you know, we all think your hair looks good. Don't we? Oh, yeah. It looks fantastic. And we appreciate you taking risks and going for it. You look thinner. Yeah, you do. You look very good, right? I mean, you look fantastic. Maybe you'd look better if Big Ten won the – I'm sorry, if Ohio State won the Big Ten Championship. But on that note, you think it's good for the Ohio State team or bad for the Ohio State team? What do you think? No, I mean, I'll never say a loss is good. You can take some good things from a loss. But, I mean, both these defenses obviously are awesome.

1:03:08That's a proven fact, I think, especially watching this. But, yeah, Indiana made plays when they needed to, man. And then when you listen to these guys get interviewed afterwards, like, all right, you can't hate on these guys. I have a lot of respect for their team, honestly. I hope we could potentially see a national title rematch, can't we?

1:03:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, there is a chance for that. Obviously, tough roads for both parties to get there. And three and a half weeks, that's a long time, AJ. And we saw last year the three and a half week wait for teams was not good for the teams. Now, last year was different than this year. This year it's just the top four teams in the ranking as opposed to the top four champions that are ranked. Because if it was like last year, JMU would have a bye, I think, right? Tulane. Tulane? Yeah, because they're the hire of the – Yeah, Tulane. Tulane would have a bye and would be waiting on – They should. They should do that.

1:03:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, they should. Okay. Nonetheless, the byes were not great for the teams last year, but it's a different setup than it was last year this year. Obviously, the college football playoff committee selecting these 12 teams to go, five highest-ranked conference champions, which adds Tulane and JMU, and then everybody else. And AJ, the big people that are mad, Notre Dame's pissed. BYU's pissed. Vandy could be pissed, but Clark Lee has come out and said we're not. We've got to take care of our own problems, which we respect, obviously. Notre Dame being mad and BYU being upset, we also understand and appreciate from their fans.

1:04:31Pat McAfee:This is part of college football that makes college football great is the amount of passion and the fact that it's a committee making a selection that are humans and have pride in relationships. You're always going to assume that maybe you are potentially getting fucked if you're left out of this whole thing. What are your thoughts, AJ, on how the playoff currently sits and who do you like and who do you hate? Well, I mean, obviously I've heard the people that are pretty pissed off. I feel like the Notre Dame fans and the school, they're the ones that may be the loudest, at least, down here in Ohio that I can hear.

1:05:01I understand them being upset, but are they just – so, Bivacqua, they're the most upset that the CFP let them on all year these last four or five weeks. They say, what, you lead me on, like Latimer said in the program. That's why they're still so mad because they said, hey, we're in. We don't do anything. We're good to go. And then, bam, what truly matters, you drop us out.

1:05:20Pat McAfee:What they're saying is the playoff committee contradicted itself. So, in whole, it's all Fugues. Shocker. That's basically what they're saying. They're saying, well, what the hell happened that we not only dropped so much, but the team that we've been ranked at one stage eight places above, 18 and 10. And what have, they've had a good run, I think is what Notre Dame's saying. Miami, hey, Miami's got to do what Miami's got to do. We understand them being upset. But we've kind of cleaned, we've rolled through teams here. And now we drop as opposed to every other week. I think Notre Dame people are just kind of calling it all out for being bullshit, basically.

1:05:58Pat McAfee:It's kind of, not just them being left out, but how is this even the thing? How is this even a situation? Now, Ross Dellinger, I believe, rolled out a tweet yesterday that really sent us all into a what? I didn't know that was the case. If Notre Dame finishes in the top 12 of the CFP ranking in the last one or whatever, they are automatically into the college football playoff. So I did some follow-up asking of questions, like how is this even a thing? This feels pretty... Roll rules. Yeah, exactly. That's what it sounds like. Well, every other conference champion can get in, so this would be their qualifier because they are not in a conference.

1:06:32Pat McAfee:So granted, conference, them joining conferences in the future, is that ever going to happen? I've never had that conversation, even though there's a lot of people on the internet saying it needs to happen. So this is deemed as their conference championship. If we get ranked in the top 12, that should be an automatic qualifier for us is how I think Notre Dame people are kind of viewing it because they don't have the conference championship to be an automatic bid. Yes, also next year, if what happened this year happened next year, Duke would also be in. So next year, the ACC champion, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, the championship winner of their conference championship game is automatically in itself.

1:07:09Pat McAfee:Is this going to 16 next year? Is that what this is all setting up for? I know that they're making that decision right now when we talked to Bavacqua on Friday. He said he felt like it was going to go that way. And Herbstreet on Saturday gave a big 16-team push thing. And it feels like Kirk wouldn't say that unless he's – How does it help everything? Like, we're just going to have more pissed off teams that don't get in. No, I think as – and D-Butt started the show. I don't know if you heard this. He goes, I'm done with it. Give me four teams. I'm sick of that. These teams that can't win the national championship are telling me how much they deserve to be in the playoffs, is what D-Butt basically said.

1:07:44Pat McAfee:D-Butt said there's only going to be four teams that are going to be able to go. Now, are they the top four teams that are ranked right now? I'm not sure. But it will be very obvious which teams can win the national championship and which teams can't through this playoff. and we'll look at it going back like, hey, there was only two teams that really were inevitably going to go on this run. So if you add four more to the mix, are you going to leave somebody out maybe that would have been able to get hot, or are you adding four more teams that definitely aren't going to win, but kind of gets rid of the loudness of the conversation?

1:08:12The counterargument to D-Buts is if you looked at the odds, title odds going into this weekend, Notre Dame was the fourth shortest odds. So the books had them as the fourth best team in the country. So if it went to more teams, a team like, huh? Overtake? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow, that's interesting.

1:08:30Pat McAfee:Well, Texas Tech, Big 12, they didn't give them a lot of respect, which is why BYU was actually ranked out of the college football playoff, even though they only had one loss to Texas Tech. Going into championship weekend, they were already ranked out of it. So they lose. I guess the CFP goes, they lost. We can't just jump them in there. And then somebody in there had to have said, they've only lost to the number four team, though, within like three weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were. Shut up. But what about Alabama, though? Exactly. So, Bama shouldn't have made it. Bama was already ranked in there.

1:08:57Pat McAfee:We already had them ranked in there, though. So, you know, we can't just drop them that much. Well, what about Notre Dame, then? Because you had them in there. Don't. You're asking a lot of questions right now. Bring back the computers. You're asking a lot of questions. Yeah, but what about Vandy? Shouldn't they be? Shut up. Did their coach even say they're upset? No. So, I think. They don't care. Fuck them. Leave them out. Yeah, we don't need to talk about them. Has their coach called us out and said that they're going to? Have you heard this protest? Not do any bowl games? The CFP committee doesn't care.

1:09:27Pat McAfee:No. Why would they care? You're right. No, I know everybody says it's an ESPN thing. ESPN thing. This is them protesting ESPN because most of the majority, I don't know if all the bowl games are on ESPN. Majority. I'm not 100 % sure. But it's like, all right, so you're protesting ESPN and not doing the bowls? Is that what you're doing? That makes sense, I guess, if that's the way you look at it. is ESPN the ones making the decision? Yeah, they have a lot of influence. It's like, all right. Well, how come anytime one person from the network says something, you all label it, ESPN says this, ESPN says this?

1:10:02Pat McAfee:Because I was sitting on college game day whenever there was a Lane Kiffin discussion happening a couple weeks ago, and all the reports I saw was at game day saying this, ESPN's pushing this and driving this. It's like, I was sitting in the middle of that fucking stage, okay, and said the complete opposite. So how come my words at ESPN don't mean, oh, because I'm not in a CFP committee? Well, none of them. So I don't know. It's an interesting dilemma about how – and once again, this show is licensed ESPN. I do work for ESPN for college game day. I understand that ESPN has their hands in a lot of college football pots and everything like that.

1:10:33Pat McAfee:But if another network had it, it would be the same. Any network wants Notre Dame, though. Any network wants Notre Dame in. That's what doesn't make any sense. I would understand. Hey, if Notre Dame was in, hey, you get it. They're a brand, man. Rudy, the movie, all of it. They bring eyeballs. They travel well. I understand money-wise why you would want them in there. Yeah, so they want the SEC in there because they think that's big money. Well, they spent their money there. Well, then why wouldn't they want Notre Dame when they can't get Notre Dame any other time? They can only get Notre Dame in the playoffs.

1:10:59Pat McAfee:Can't get Notre Dame any other time. Notre Dame has its own TV deal with NBC because of how powerful it is. You know, we started the college football playoff at Notre Dame last year. Yeah. Literally launched the entire thing at Notre Dame. Why? Because ESPN could get a Notre Dame game. Like, that is how I think if the ESPN people – Jimmy Pataro's kid goes to Notre Dame, I think. There you have it. He's the head of fucking ESPN. So it's like I was watching that whole thing unfold, and I'm like, okay, all right, all right. You don't think we want to go? Because I grew up in the thought that Notre Dame gets all the perks because of how popular they are.

1:11:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, sure. Like, hey, people take care of Notre Dame because of this. When I was at West Virginia, Notre Dame was getting ranked higher than us. It was like we would smoke that team if we were to play. And I was basically told it doesn't matter, though, because Notre Dame is going to be in here because they want to be conversated about. They want Notre Dame to be a part of it. So then now it's like ESPN didn't want Notre Dame in there. It's like I've been told the complete opposite. Like I thought that is what we were literally looking for. And once again, we had Pete Pavako on Friday to state his case.

1:11:59Pat McAfee:So like I am a fan of Notre Dame, even though I pick against them in a lot of games because I don't think they can win them in the games that we're talking about. Not this year. I think their team was very good this year. I picked them against Pitt, obviously. But it's like everything that I heard about what Notre Dame does and then what everybody's saying why ESPN didn't win Notre Dame just kind of doesn't align. So I don't fully understand that. But I will say this. I think it's bullshit they dropped as many spots as they dropped without even playing again. I'm not saying they're in the right or in the wrong by not being happy about it.

1:12:30Pat McAfee:I think it's a complete opposite. But I just don't like the argument like ESPN does this, ESPN does this, ESPN does this just because somebody who works on ESPN says something. If we were to just take somebody's take from any other network and just classify the entire network as being that, that would be a wild thing. But I guess ESPN has their hands in a lot of it, so it has to happen. But just know there's people in there trying. We're trying our best for the good of ball as opposed to just being a political networking, money-grabbing venture, which, once again, if it was that, you would think Notre Dame would get in.

1:13:02Pat McAfee:But not BYU. Top four seed. Yeah, exactly. The arguments were kind of interesting to me when I was reading them online. I'm like, so you're saying they're all money-hungry ratings grabbing, But then also, they put Tulane and JMU in? It's going to happen every year no matter what, though, right? There's never going to be a year where there's not a bunch of drama, at least with two or three teams, right? Every time. If you go up to 16, which I think is kind of a debuts point. 32. I mean, we get the same shit March Madness. First team out, it's always okay. It doesn't matter how many teams you go up to.

1:13:31Whatever the metrics are for teams to get in, somebody's going to have an argument. This year was Notre Dame, Miami, those teams that were bunched up. But it will always be an argument. You know, back in the day when it was, you know, you have three teams who had great seasons and then, you know, three or four or five teams, and then there was two teams who were picked to go and play in whatever BCS championship and everybody else just had to play in their big bowl game. That just was what it was. Then we moved to four teams. It was like, okay, now we have a legit champion. But now it's basically, you know, turning to NFL playoffs.

1:14:00And I think that was the difference between the NFL and college football. But I get it. It's money. And there are big games, too.

1:14:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, huge games. Here is what the current CFP ranking would sit if it was 16. SC would get in. Arizona would be pissed. Michigan would be pissed. Virginia would be pissed. Tulane already in, obviously, because top five highest ranked champions. And then Houston. And I think it would be a little less LOD, which I think if you're trying to get away from. You could just say, shut up. The LOD, you could certainly get away from that. But go ahead. Respectfully, they can't do the conference champion bullshit anymore. Okay? Like, if you're in the Big Ten. Well, they wanted to save conference championships.

1:14:34Pat McAfee:Remember, that was the decision. We don't want conference championships to become absolutely nothing. And now if you ask the SEC with everything that happened, or if you ask the Big 12 with everything that happened, might add, they'll say conference championships don't only – they not only don't mean anything, they actually are bad for your team if you're to play in one. So they were trying to save it with the conference championships. Go ahead. Well, I'm just saying like in general, like the big ones that matter, they will matter. You'll get the bye if you win. You'll get the bye if you prove it all year long and you're in the conference championship.

1:15:01But when it comes to Tulane and JMU respectfully, like they don't really have any business going up against Oregon. You're telling me that as a watcher, and again, we don't have any affiliations to any of these schools. None of us went to any of these schools that are currently in the college football playoff, aside from A.J. with Ohio State. Notre Dame at Oregon would be probably the game of the first round if they were to have gotten in. I think all of us would rather see, and just the layman football fan, would rather see a great game than something like that. So when I say the conference championship bullshit, I mean like, hey, the ones where you have to put in the top five conferences.

1:15:40No, that's not how it should work. The big conference games, yes, that should happen because those are the teams that are relevant that are going to be in it at the end. The Texas Tech, the Indiana, Georgia, Ohio State, Bama, sure. Those are the conferences that matter because those are the conferences that carry college football. The rest of those conferences, they respectfully just don't. Like Tulane and JMU, I get it. But again, no one's turning on the CW at 2 o 'clock on a Saturday to catch those games. Like it doesn't matter. It's just completely irrelevant. And we can't also act like this is college basketball where a 12 seed or one of these low teams is going to make a run.

1:16:18It's not. It'll never be college basketball. Like what Tony said about the recruiting is very cool. The difference between the number one recruiting team and the 32nd recruiting team, that gap is closed. But guess who isn't in the top 32 of recruiting? JMU and Tulane. They aren't. And guess what? They're never going to be. Because you know what happens when those teams are good? Their head coaches leave. JMU's old head coach, like, hey, guess what? He's the number one team in the country right now. He's their head coach. Signetti. It's like there's so many things. What was that? Players leave too.

1:16:51Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And both of their head coaches right now are leaving.

1:16:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, and also probably a lot of their great players. Like this is good for the players at JMU and Tulane. they're going to get a chance to audition even more for everybody, you know, after what they've done this year. But I think everybody's kind of seen it the same way. You know, I don't want to say you guys are elitist and things like that, but whenever we hear Notre Dame's pissed about not getting in, and then all of a sudden we look at the thing, and who is it? Tulane. Tulane, what happened? Who'd they play this year? Who'd they play? Well, you know who they played? They played Ole Miss, and Ole Miss beat them by five touchdowns, and that's the problem.

1:17:27They lost 45-10 to Ole Miss earlier this year. So, like, the committee being like, you know what, we can actually just stick it to everybody. We'll act like this is some rematch that everybody wanted. Like, I thought this, when they did, like, the group of five thing, the whole point was, like, a team like Boise State, who plays in a lesser conference, who goes undefeated, and is ranked, you know, 14 or 13 or whatever. Maybe James Madison this year. Yeah, maybe. 12-1. Yeah, exactly. You know what, I think they have more of a gripe if they don't get in than Tulane does. because it's just crazy.

1:17:58It's crazy. They played Ole Miss already, who was the best team on their schedule, and they got beat by five touchdowns. Could anything happen? Sure, but there's a reason they got beat.

1:18:07Pat McAfee:Well, they played another team that we've heard of. Oh, that's right. That's a UTSA. Yeah. What was that? Oh, UTSA. They got beat by like 21 or something, didn't they? And we don't want to do this to them. No. We don't want to do this to them. We don't want to say exactly. You get nominated for the Hall of Fame, and then if you're on the fringe of the Hall of Fame, all you're going to spend the rest of your life hearing is how bad you are and that you shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. It should have eliminated. I mean, come on. Just like with Texas, lost to Florida. Like, yeah, I mean, come on.

1:18:36Yeah, but you got it. Last year you said the best 12 teams. Didn't they say that over and over? We're just trying to find the best 12?

1:18:40Pat McAfee:No, but it was always the top five ranked conference champions. Always. Because they wanted to save the conference championships. And then now the entire conversation is, conference championship are a detriment to your football team. And then Notre Dame's saying, And so we should have played in one and lost by 21, like Alabama did, and then we don't fall. Like, I don't... Humans in there, man. Humans are making this decision. They're never going to get it right. So if you expand the window, at least you have a chance to maybe not get as many wrong. Because the playoffs, we need more good football, not less good football.

1:19:13Pat McAfee:And it feels like we sacrificed some good football to do the right football. And it's like, well, who's the right football in? Well, these 12 people. It's like, all right, done with it. Notre Dame said, we're not playing a bowl game yet. So, we're not going to the Pop-Tart Bowl, bro. I don't know what to tell you. Who's taking this spot? Maybe West Virginia. You know, West Virginia's got four wins. We're just a couple wins away from – Possibly five. You're right, because what happened earlier in the year with the coach, what the hell happened there? Nobody's talking about it. Against who? Ohio.

1:19:43Pat McAfee:Ohio. Remember, they've got a good football team. Maybe too good of a football team. Who knows what's going on over there? Coach is gone. They might have to relinquish some of our wins. Maybe West Virginia. Maybe we get a win. Now we got five wins. Hold the phone. We're one game away from being bowl eligible. You guys are signing up to not play. We'll sign up to play. We'll take this to spring, so maybe us. But Notre Dame, they opt out of any other bowl games immediately after not getting selected for the college football playoff. I personally, Pete Pavacqua has a very big brain. People in Notre Dame have big brains.

1:20:11Pat McAfee:I think you should have sat on that one maybe for 24 hours and then released a statement saying, hey, we talked to everybody. We did this. This is what we think. This is why we're going to opt out. Doing it immediately afterwards does look like you're patting a little bit, but if you listen to them speak about it, I guess the players' captains, the team captains, talked about it. They had a meeting with Marcus Freeman, and they were going to be losing a lot of members of their team, obviously, to go to the NFL draft, and it was going to be hard to talk people into playing in the Mayo Bowl or whatever bowl game they ended up playing as opposed to going to the NFL.

1:20:42Pat McAfee:So they didn't want to split the team, I guess, was the big conversation. Like, we don't want our last game to be without all these guys. Like, that is not what we want to be. We can respect that, obviously, and appreciate that the players are a part of the conversation as all eyes turn ahead to next year for Notre Dame, and they are going to be good next year. And they got the top 12 designation next year for the college football playoffs, so maybe this won't be a problem if they're able to hold up their end of the bargain. Once again, once again, they beat Miami and they beat Texas A &M. It's not a problem.

1:21:09Pat McAfee:There's only one undefeated team all year in Indiana, but if Notre Dame wants to get in, go undefeated, okay? And then we won't have any conversations is basically the conversation. Or lose one. Well, BYU says we only lost to one team twice and we're out. And they're unbelievable. Yeah, they got an argument too. I mean, BYU's got a gripe. They definitely have a gripe. Definitely have a gripe. We don't know what Texas Tech is about to go do. Yeah. I know. Texas Tech is very good. They have the dude. Sataki said that's the best team in the country. Everybody else just kind of doesn't know about it yet.

1:21:39Pat McAfee:And it's like they actually might be. Like they legitimately might be. And then Jacob Rodriguez is hitting the crossbar from 20-yard line like that. That was pretty sweet. That was sweet. That was an ugly ball. It's all right. As I was watching it flow through the air, I'm like, well, that's a lot of surface area. That's a lot of surface area. He's smart. As somebody that has played the crossbar game, every once in a while there's ones that break up aren't bad because it gives you a little bit more of a thing to happen. I think Herbstreit was the one that said, you need to do another for his wife.

1:22:05Pat McAfee:He needs to do a throw for his wife. It's like, yeah, you're right. What else? I mean, we got three hours talking about four games right now. Blackball pilot? Yeah, badass. And she's jack-jacked. I was, which game were we down there for Texas Tech-BYU? Because it was hard to pick BYU to beat Texas Tech strictly because what Texas Tech did to BYU the last time they played. I mean, it was just an ass beating. Beat the shit out of them. A thorough ass beating, which is probably what the college football playoff committee said. Like, hey, BYU played a good team twice, and the same outcome happened.

1:22:36Pat McAfee:Got fucking killed. They got murdered. So do we need to see it anymore? We need Tulane in there. So nonetheless, Jacob Rodriguez, though, his story is phenomenal. former quarterback, was a quarterback at Virginia as a freshman, transfers over to linebacker, goes to Texas Tech, has this mustache. Him and another guy, the mustache crew. Roberts? Ben Roberts, I believe. Two picks, this guy. There's another one. There's another one of these Jacob Rodriguez who might be up for the Heisman, but his wife, whenever we were at Texas Tech BYU, we went up to see Cody Campbell's suite, you know, just kind of go check out all the stuff.

1:23:08Pat McAfee:They just built it all. It's an incredible spread. I can imagine. Yeah, it's an absolute incredible spread. As I was going to get on the elevator, she was walking out of the elevator, and somebody said, like, hey, that's Jacob Rodriguez's wife or whatever, and we had just ran a piece, like, two seconds ago. So I immediately made an ass out of myself. Hey, thank you so much for your service. She turns around, jacked. Like, I was like, hell yeah. That family right there is going to be some dogs. I mean, that is an outright absolute. And, yeah, Texas Tech team is very good. Like, very, very, very good.

1:23:42Pat McAfee:and obviously the Big 12 doesn't get a lot of love, but this Texas Tech team is for real. All right, let's move to the NFL, AJ. I don't know if you saw it. Did you see? You talking about your Colts or something else? Yeah. I feel terrible for Danny Dimes, man. That's awful. That's a terrible situation for him. Yeah. I talked about it in the first hour about how thankful I am for Danny Dimes coming to Indianapolis because I think somewhere else offered more money. Danny Dimes saw the opportunity, wanted to come here and prove himself, and he did just that. He transformed an entire culture. The way we were talking about the Colts last year versus the way we were talking about the Colts this year are vastly different.

1:24:15Pat McAfee:Not just because they're winning games, but because how everything was happening behind the scenes. Just vastly more professional and better from everything that we're hearing. Late to meetings, missing stuff, all that stuff that bad teams do is what the Colts are kind of doing in the last couple of years. They were ass. They were an ass franchise. An absolutely shite football team. And then Danny Dimes comes in here and there's a little bit of hope, a little bit of promise, and they start rolling. Everybody all on the same page. All right, we're there early. We're staying late. We're getting extra lifts, extra working.

1:24:43Pat McAfee:It's like the Colts became the team. And then he gets a fractured fibula coming off the bye week or at the game before the bye week. And then that happens in his left leg, I think. And then his right leg, yeah, he tears his Achilles. It's like that's a one-two punch to a guy who is certainly having his best season. The Colts are having their best season. And for it to all end that way, it was an absolute bummer. So I agree with what you're saying there, AJ. Danny Dimes, we appreciate you, man. Godspeed, dude. Godspeed. You were perfect for us. And hopefully will be for us for the long haul because his contract is up after this year, but he was awesome for our team and our city.

1:25:21Pat McAfee:And on the flip side, we've lost to Jacksonville like nine straight years down in Duval. They are a problem for us down there. 2014. Even when their team is ass. Yeah. Yep. Clontine. They'll beat us down there. I don't know if it's the stadium. I don't know if it's the vibes. I don't know if it's their fans showing up and getting after the Colts more so than any other game, but they have our number in Duval, and the Jacksonville Jaguars did their thing against us. Now, Danny Dimes leaving, not great. And Danny Dimes not being able to be as active as he was like three weeks ago, not great for the last couple weeks.

1:25:54Pat McAfee:I've kind of talked about that, how that was like 40 % of our offense was him being able to move. Not being able to move was obviously devastating for us, but the Jags made all the big plays. I mean, they made all the big plays. They were all over the place. Liam Cohen, speech after the game awesome they're obviously all in the jackson jaguars might be for real for real it's crazy to think about yeah sitting there here nine and four top of the division definitely did not expect that especially with a new head coach me and tyro kind of talking about it before the show might be a good indicator if the coach just sounds like a big dumb doofus at his press conference that they're going to be a good coach and turn the team around but on both sides of the ball campanelli the defensive coordinator he's got those guys humming making big plays defensively and offensively.

1:26:38They're making plays as well. Trevor Lawrence, as of late, has been playing better. They were missing Parker Washington, obviously missing their number two overall pick, who Travis Hunter, who Stoner, went on that rant about kind of changing the game of football as itself. But it's just an unbelievable run by the Jacksonville Jaguars. I love these jerseys. I hate rooting on anything good for the Jacksonville Jaguars, but they are rolling right now.

1:26:58Pat McAfee:They clipped us making fun of the opening press conference. I saw one of your fans on here. Oh, come on! And it's like, you don't think we've been supportive of the Jags? since that day. You know, that day it was hard not to make fun of him. To be honest. He got Duvall wrong. He made fun of himself. Yeah, and then Liam comes on the program and we start hearing him talk and we're like, you're not supposed to be. Wait a minute, this guy's not a dipshit. You're not supposed to be doing that. I don't like that. Stunner, 12-year-old, I don't like that. I don't like the way he's talking about football.

1:27:28Pat McAfee:It's supposed to be expanding. It's supposed to be like, oh, I don't like what you're doing down there. It's like we felt it. It's all around whether or not Trevor Lawrence can go or not, right? That's kind of how we all chat about the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll tell you what, yesterday he did. Yeah, I think he's been playing well. Yeah, I mean, he's doing it now, especially in these conditions too, not the easiest place to play. Have we seen Shad Khan? Is that just not crossing my algorithm or what? Has he not been in the locker room? I haven't seen him much. Well, because he was... Yeah, I mean, you know, that's what they envisioned in January.

1:27:57And we kind of made fun of him because we thought it wasn't just going to happen in September. Well... But it's kind of happened in October. Why? November. Why? It's starting to happen here in December. Jesus. And now it's going to go on forever!

1:28:13Pat McAfee:Here's a chance. We're referring to the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars giving a speech in a locker room early in this season. And it's one of the most electrifying speeches of all time. They talk about it amongst the other great speeches. Six inches here, six inches there. You know, you name it. Gettysburg Address. Yeah, we have it. Yes. Herb Brooks. Miracle on Ice. We're just talking about that, obviously. Avedry. You can throw it in there. I don't know if it happened before a game, but I'm sure somebody in there dropped it on him. Oh, yeah. And I'm sure a winner, I would assume, if that was the case.

1:28:42Pat McAfee:But, yeah, we've kind of become Jacksonville Jaguars fans, kind of. Now, on that note, can't be having the Jacksonville Jaguars just fucking ragdoll the Colts like they've been doing. Can't have it. Houston Texans, a whole different story. Sure. Okay, Houston Texans, a whole different story. Number one defense in the league. Almost not fair. CJ Stroud doing his thing. D 'Amico Ryan's just...

1:29:05Those guys can fly. They can fly on defense.

1:29:08Pat McAfee:That's what I saw D 'Amico do last night.

1:29:13Pat McAfee:That was it. Not much else. I mean, D 'Amico is locked in. Oh, yeah. He is... I feel like he could still play if he wanted to, but you talk about defense flying around, it's like that's what a defensive head coach can do. Yes. It's like a defensive head coach can get everybody to buy in on trying to CTE themselves after a single hit, which is what they are trying to do. And the credit to him, after he started 0-3, he actually gave the play calling duties over to Matt Burke. And JJ talks about him a lot. I think he played either for him or for him. Burke's the man, yeah. I played for him in Cincinnati.

1:29:44He's my linebacker coach. Yeah, and so they've won eight out of ten. They're leading the league in scoring defense, leading the league in yardage, just on every level. We know about Will Anderson Jr. and Daniel Hunter on opposite sides on the front line. But the second level, fast, violent, physical. And then the third level with the secondary, like Kamari Laster, probably the most physical corner in the league. Derek Stingley, we know what he is, probably the best over-round corner league. And then Petra and Bullock on the back end, like they're just unbelievable. They hunt. Like when you click, boom, the final click on the defensive rep, nine times out of ten, 10, 11 guys are going to be in the frame.

1:30:18Obviously, AJ played for him, so I'm sure he knows what he's preaching in these meetings. But just watching this tape, if you're coaching high school, little league, college, like this is a defense you want to watch and try to replicate. Oh, so you talk about Matt Burk, though. Yeah. D 'Amico turned over the play card. Honestly, Burk is a Dartmouth guy, but he's like, he's from Boston and he is like the, I don't know how to describe him. Old school, yeah, old school guy, but super weirdly smart at the same time, but grew up like a real human and not like a silver spoon at all. And he's a wizard, man.

1:30:51He's got a big old beard. You can see him on the sideline right there. His beard isn't as long as it used to be, but like a mixture of a dude who a super cool players coach but at the same time will absolutely hold you accountable and not let you slip an inch ever but on game day especially the dude is like let him go let the boys eat like he's not going to get in your way ever on game day well here's

1:31:09Pat McAfee:the defensive season seemingly working out for him 16 points per game which is lowest since 2019 Patriots is that good I don't know 266.3 yards per game that's lowest since 2009 Jets is that good 12-15 TD interception ratio. That's the lowest ratio since 2021 Bills. So, yeah, they're primetime killers, these guys. You put them on primetime, the other team's offense, maybe with a quarterback getting paid$600 million, not going to be able to do much. Like, that is just what you're signing up for. Patrick Mahomes versus Texans, 160 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions. It's not just him, though.

1:31:47Pat McAfee:Let's go to Josh Allen versus Houston Texans defense. what they were able to do together. 0 for 2, zero touchdowns, five turnovers, 10 times they were sacked, and then 23.8 average QBR, which is obviously 300. That's the Texans' defense. So whenever we start talking about the AFC playoff picture, it's like, I think that could probably get it done if CJ can go. Like, can CJ go? Relentless. Can he be back? Can CJ do his shit? And it's like, Collins is seemingly always open. I mean, he throws to him when he's very covered up. Yeah. And he seemingly gets it. It's like CJ maybe is only going to get better this season.

1:32:22Pat McAfee:He said he was knocking rust off the last couple weeks. He said he's still trying to knock his rust off. We saw him whenever he came and played against the Indianapolis Colts. If that's what knocking his rust off is, I think everybody's in some shit right now. I think CJ's back to being CJ, I think. Yeah, and they have the vets in the receiving room, in tight end room, to kind of be the safety valve. And then they have the young guys coming alive right now. Jaden Higgins and Jalen Noel, they don't get as many touches, but they are clearly starting to understand both their role. And then Woody Marks.

1:32:53Woody Marks being their rookie running back alongside Nick Chubb. They have guys all around, and they have a team where you only have to score 20 points. You do not have to score 28, even 24. If they get to 20, they're going to win. I mean, the defense is so suffocating and smothering. It's fun to watch as a fan, but at the same time, as someone who likes to bet on touchdown parlays, it sucks because you can put them in and there's no chance they're going to happen because they don't let anybody score. Very, very rarely are they allowing two touchdowns.

1:33:27Pat McAfee:AJ, home fans boo to their own offense. You know, their own offense. And I'm not saying that's abnormal. You know, I was a punter. So the amount of times I went onto the field with the home team booing, home fans booing, to do my job, and then at away games, them cheering. It's just kind of an interesting dynamic there at the punter position. So fans will get restless if their offense isn't doing good. It's like the Texans' defense does that to everybody's offense, whether it's at their house or in your crib. And boo birds are early and often with the Texans' defense. Unbelievable feeling. And as a defense to go on the road and kind of get the crowd, not only out of it, but into it, booing, especially a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, who I think they said it on the broadcast.

1:34:09I don't think he's ever been booed. But you watch the game and comments at the perfect word. Like they're suffocating because even when there are opportunities for like receivers or tight ends to make plays, they're almost peeking over their shoulder. You see like uncharacteristic drops, which turn the tips. And then which was also said on the broadcast, these DBs don't really drop a lot of opportunities. A lot of times we'll turn the tape. We'll see a quarterback throw, you know, maybe three or four balls that should have been intercepted. Those balls are getting picked off of this defense with the combination of everything.

1:34:38It's like every week they're trying to come in and set some type of record or chasing some type of goal. Just an unbelievable job from top down.

1:34:44Pat McAfee:I love it. It's the AFC side. They're the number one defense. Yep. Hey, on the NFC side, AJ, I know you got to love this. That Packers defense for real, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, no, it is. I mean, and I'd be very interested to hear, you know, what AJ thinks because as a fan, like, it really is. Like, we've talked about this a bunch. For the most part, it feels like the Packers should have won three Super Bowls when Rodgers was there, and their defense sucks so many times. and was not just bad, was one of the worst in the league. No, I mean, it's not – Way to go, Hawk. No, it's not – Way to go, Hawk. I've been going 10 years, I think.

1:35:18Yeah, exactly. But, no, for it now to be like where every single week it really is kind of just like, hey, you just hope that – it's kind of like the same situation. Can the offense get to 21 points? Can they get to 24 points? Because if they can, you feel like the defense is going to do what it needs to do. And that's kind of what we talked about with the Bears leading into this game was they're defensively like they're very feast or famine. If you're if they're forcing a bunch of turnovers, chances are they're going to win that game. And Jordan Love had an early pick that was bad. But outside of that, you know, it ended up being one one in terms of the turnover battle.

1:35:53So, no, but I would like they're they're unbelievable. I'd be very interested. AJ, what do you think, you know, in terms of them like in the long run here? Oh, they absolutely have a chance to make a run with their defense. They're fast. They're physical. Obviously, we know what Micah can do. So every third and medium, third and long situation, we don't need a one-shot on me, that's for sure. But I think Jeff Halfley, he is the guy. If you can keep Jeff Halfley around this year, go get it while you can this year because I'm sure Jeff Halfley, his agent has people calling him every single day because the guy is a leader and obviously his defensive scheme is beautiful.

1:36:24Pat McAfee:Okay, tell me about the Micah trade. Because Ty was talking a little bit about it earlier, and I think this comes with the fanhood of a dynamic pass rusher. Okay? You heard the Steelers fans used to complain about it all the time. Now I think it's just kind of expected. When we were at the Colts, I heard it and thought it a lot with Dwight Freeney. What was your take about Micah earlier? He gets held on every single play. Every single play. I think it's the first time, long time there for the Packers to have a premier elite pass rusher, especially with how young he is. That just kind of happens, I think, with these elite pass rushers.

1:36:53Pat McAfee:And the ref's just kind of like, yeah, that's how it's going to be if you're going to be that good and that paid. Not that it's right, but it does be like that. Happened to Clay, yeah. Yeah, Clay Matthews, obviously a very dominant pass rusher for a long time. He got held all the time, but it's like when you're that good, the refs think, well, it didn't directly. You were seven yards away from the quarterback. Well, yeah, I was going to be two and a half yards away from an idiot, but I had two guys drag me down from behind. That happens over and over sometimes for these guys. But just the, I guess the amount of attention the O-line and the backs and the quarterbacks have to pay to a guy like Micah, that can be mentally taxing as well.

1:37:26Like, okay, how are we going to get this dude blocked up every single time you walk to the line of scrimmage?

1:37:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, check one, right? I mean, that is just literally a conversation happened between everybody. Yeah, and all the great ones get held, but just watch them. I feel like Micah gets held like ten times more, even since he's been in Dallas. And I think a part of it is because of his burst and how he gets like low. He moves differently, doesn't he? He moves a little different because he's so like unorthodox in his movement. He's so explosive and he uses his hands and he takes away any surface area you have to block him. that it's like, it just, yeah, it is weird. Like, look at that. Are you kidding me?

1:38:01And that hole right, like, that specific hole right there is what you see the most. Like, his bend is unbelievable. His burst, his closing speed. Like, he is premiered. But just to talk about this defense as a whole, like, the way that they rallied to the ball and tackle, it was a game earlier in the year where you didn't have to watch the game. You just had to look at the box score. Jameer Gibbs had, like, 11 catches for, like, I want to say less than, like, 35 yards, something crazy like that. So that just lets you know, like, that type of explosive player Catching the ball in space 11 times and barely getting three yards, getting less than three yards of reception is insane.

1:38:34You just see that week in and week out, like how they rally, not only from the front getting suffocated, but from the back end. Evan Williams is unbelievable, one of the best safeties in the league. Like Cooper, he's unbelievable. He's just so patient and locked in on everything that's going in. Like you can tell that they're well coached, and they got super, super talented guys as well.

1:38:51Pat McAfee:Good for the Packers. Packers are one of the three or four teams, depending upon tonight's outcome with the Eagles that we can see in the NFC representing in the Super Bowl. Obviously, we think it's Green Bay, L.A., Seattle, and then we'll see what Philadelphia does to them. We all believe in Philadelphia because they're the reigning champs, but this year has certainly been different. Can they get a huge win over the Chargers? Then the AFC, it's like, we like the Patriots. I like the Texans. Yeah, Bills. Broncos. Bills still in there. But I think there is like a clear cut. hey, this is who it's going to be in the NFC.

1:39:25Pat McAfee:And then on the AFC side, still kind of wide open. Not wide open, but you get it. There's still a lot of question marks. Yeah, I kind of think that the seven teams in the top there are going to be the seven teams in the playoffs. It's just kind of where does that order go? You know, the Ravens, sure, maybe they can make a run. But the Steelers running that game is so massive. Steelers get to nine, maybe even ten wins. That might be enough. And then Jags-Texans, like they might end up flopping. And who knows with the Chargers tonight. We'll see. But if the Colts had 8-5 without a quarterback, it's hard to see them really contending for a playoff spot now.

1:39:58And then the Ravens and Chiefs, they still have a very, very tough road going forward. So it'll be interesting to see how those seven teams actually end up ranked by the end.

1:40:06Pat McAfee:It's a beautiful time to be alive. It's a great time for football. On Saturday night, we were part of a majestic moment. AJ was certainly experiencing it vastly differently over there in Ohio. But we are in the Loud House having a great time. watching this man do his thing. Ladies and gentlemen, the current odds-on favorite to win the Heisman, a Big Ten champion, player of the game in the Big Ten championship, the quarterback for the Indiana Hoosiers, ladies and gentlemen, Fernando Mendoza. Fernando! Who, who, who? Who's yours? Let's go. Thank you guys so much for having me on. It's always an honor to be on the show.

1:40:42Pat McAfee:No, we're lucky that you joined us. That was flipping awesome on Saturday, dude. How'd that feel coming out of your mouth whenever you said it? You knew you dropped a banger on him or what? Yeah, I was about to drop a banger. I didn't want to get fined or anything. They didn't want to put a bad image out there for the university. I was so close to saying it, and then I had to just think of the first thing. It sounded a little cringy, a little nerdy, but it is what it is. Now, hey, you be you, brother. You do what you got to do. And the fact that you're thinking about the university, especially on a night like that, we love.

1:41:07Pat McAfee:And I think that's obviously why anybody that's ever watched you play or met you is a fan of yours. Let's talk about your team winning the Big Ten championship. Obviously, first time since, I think, World War II or something like that, that IU has been a part of this in the football world. What was the messaging from Coach Sig throughout? And did you guys understand the history of IU and the Big Ten championship, especially because it was in Indianapolis? Yeah, the whole story has always been IU's been the most losing-est program in college football history until this year. And like you said, I don't think it was until World War II that IU's won their last Big Ten championship.

1:41:41And before the game, a lot of guys had a sour taste in their mouth from last year with the whole Ohio State-Indiana game and kind of how Ohio State kind of took control of that game. And Coach Ignetti's messaging was, we belong here. We belong here. They might not think, people might not think on the outside, and we're the underdog, but we have nothing to lose, and we do belong here. And I think we showed that. It was a phenomenal showcase by the defense, holding that high-powered offense to 10 points. Unbelievable. And I turned the ball over and basically gave it to them in the red zone, which is still insane to help them to 10 points.

1:42:13And just such a great overall team effort by everybody there.

1:42:16Pat McAfee:Let's talk about you just losing a lung maybe on the first play. We were a little bit worried. And I don't know if you knew that 92 was going to be everywhere. This guy from the south side of Indianapolis, we should have known that he was going to go bananas here, this Curry guy. First play of the game, though. Clean shot. I think clean shot, he gets you. Clean shot. You weren't complaining at all about the shot. You were certainly in a massive amount of pain. This is first play of the game. Your brother comes in. What was, what happened? Did you get a diagnosis and did you hear the pop when you jogged back on the field?

1:42:48Pat McAfee:The place went absolutely apeshit. I hope you got a chance to take that in the amount of respect and appreciation for your toughness. Well, first of all, I like to think I thought the crowd was loud, but they were nowhere near as loud when you took off your shirt and you started doing the ho-ho Hoosier chant. Yeah, come on. I mean, that was magical. But on to the hit, yeah. I mean, it was a clean hit. Great player. Curry's a great player. And also, I know, AJ, you're a defensive guy. Football, I mean, I'm all for playing football, playing rough and dirty. Like, here we go. Let's get the pads going.

1:43:19I know the NFL is going more towards the offensive game. However, as a quarterback and as a competitor, I'm all for competing, and that was a great shot, great hit. And he cracked me. Like, bad. Like, no pause. And it was tough. At that point, I didn't even see him. And all of a sudden, it's like I got hit by a freight train with no brakes. I'm on the floor. I'm like, did I break a rib or something? And then I just realized my hair just had gotten knocked out. You know, my chest is in pain a little bit. But, you know, I was always going to go back in the game. It was great to see Alberto in there for a play, doing his thing, operating the huddle.

1:43:55But no matter what, I would literally need to be dead, like Jeff Brom, to pull me off.

1:44:01Pat McAfee:We love that. It was the time. That's what you had happen to you there, the that moment when you have no air in you. That's what was taking place right there. What a nightmare on that field to be taking place. Yeah, no, that was, it was tough, and it was definitely a scary moment, but I just tried to move my limbs as quick as possible to show everybody I was all right. I think it was a good energy ball to get back in the game, and, you know, we got stopped on that drive, but I think it was just the grittiness throughout the game. They're an extremely physical team, and so I think setting that example, after the first play, I think our entire team played a gritty game, and I think it was set that precedent off the first play.

1:44:38Pat McAfee:Obviously, you mentioned last year at Ohio State. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, I guess, how does your team, like the week leading up to this game, you played Ohio State last year, your mentality then and where you guys were at compared to this year coming into it, like as far as confidence and how you guys felt leading into it, what was the difference between last year and this year? Yeah, I wasn't here last year. However, from the building and from all the guys, I heard that last year was like, oh, shoot, we got Ohio State. Yes, we expect to beat them because Coach Cignetti always has extremely high standards and expects us to win.

1:45:12but it was a little bit of a wake-up call, going to the horseshoe, going to their stadium, being the loudest stadium that any of those guys have ever played in. And then, unfortunately, Ohio State took the game over. He had the Will Howard clip at the end where he's smashing the SIG and everything. Will Howard, great guy, by the way. Met that guy. Love that guy.

1:45:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, just shit talking. Just shit talking. That happens. Yeah, I mean, it's football. It's competition. That's how it goes, and that's what competitors do, and that's how it is. And then this year, there was a sour taste in the mouth. we kind of thought that Ohio State was going to be like, oh, it's going to be the same Indiana. And whether they did or not, I think both teams came out to play. It was a great competition. It's almost unfair to have Matt Patricia lead that defense out there. But it was a great challenge, a great opportunity for all of us. And I think it was a great battle. And I would love to see him again because it was such a great matchup.

1:46:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, we love watching it too. 13-10 game like that, not normally something that you desire. There was explosive plays. There was big shots. I mean, it felt like high-level football, and it all lived up to the moment. You just mentioned a man right there. Go ahead, D-Bot. Yeah, Matty P., one of my former coaches. He does some great stuff, puts some great stuff on film. What was it like with some of those looks, and specifically that deep ball you hit to Beck? I know you hit a few of them early in the game, not the late one. We probably have the clip up, but the deep ball you hit to Beck. What did you see pre-snap and post-snap on this look?

1:46:34Yeah, so on that look, it was third down and two. We understood at that point in the game, they were playing really, really matchy, and it It was really tough throughout the week because Coach Patricia really is, I don't know if he's trying to do it on purpose, but the numbers were tough to disguise because it was like 50 % middle of the field close, 50 % middle of the field open. The percentage was really there and wasn't giving much tendencies. However, at that point, we knew that at that man look, they either wanted to go man or tricky two, which is a cover two, and they ended up going cover two there, and it got them a little bit out of position.

1:47:05So Becker, great receiver, was able to blow past the middle of the field because one safety was over there at the corner, the corner of the field. He was over there playing one safety, and the other safety was going to go defend the deep half of the over that I was looking off. So once I saw that frontside safety kind of cut and have eyes on that over, I knew that backside safety wasn't going to be able to get there, and at that point, I just got to throw as far as I can so Becker can go get it.

1:47:27Pat McAfee:Talk about Becker a little bit. What a dog seems like. Had a game earlier in the year. He goes crazy. Obviously, the Big Ten Championship, he goes bananas. He's talking his shit a little bit too afterwards. words he felt like he was ready for the moment I know you two are roommates right tell me about him a little bit as you get more guys hopefully healthy as you head into the playoffs yeah early in the game we lost Cooper and Cooper is a huge part of our offense you know he's such a great part of our offense but I think it's just a testament of all the guys we have in that room and such a selfless room as a receiver room next guy up mentality as you can see here on the screen he had a huge third down and six catch to seal the game Becker always ready to be the next man up Elijah Surratt played a huge part in the game, had a great back shoulder catch, and all the other receivers, they were just balling all day and made my job really, really easy.

1:48:16However, I think it's really important to understand how fundamental they are, especially against such a tough defense. The receivers, how they were getting an open all game, and although it was a 13-10 game, there were a lot of explosive plays on both sides. I think it was a great receiver matchup.

1:48:30Pat McAfee:You know, accuracy is a massive piece of guys making plays. You spin it, brother. You are fun to watch in there. And obviously you take massive shots and your energy is always fantastic. You are, you're a special talent, brother. Indiana is obviously very lucky that you're here, but we're enjoying watching and learning about you. And there was a special moment afterwards too. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Fernando, a huge part of your story that we've all learned about is your mother and the scene after of your entire family being together was really cool. And there was actually, you know, the interview here on Wish TV where they talked to your mom about everything.

1:49:04and it just seemed like an emotional great moment. How special was it to celebrate with your entire family there after winning the Big Ten title? It was so special. My family means everything to myself. My mom, my dad, they said it's such a great example and precedent of uncontrollable passion and just always optimism and always having that approach and attitude. Without them, I wouldn't be here. And to see my mom fighting every single day, whether it's PT, new treatments, it always gives myself a good optimistic approach. So whether we turn the ball over or we have a touchdown, no matter if it's good, bad, or indifferent, I always have that optimistic approach.

1:49:43I'm always able to take from my mom as I see her fighting every single day. So it gives myself in no shape or way an excuse to have a bad attitude ever. I love you, dude.

1:49:54Pat McAfee:This is what we're talking about. The more we learn about you, the better. Everything about your family, everything about you is awesome. Can't wait to see where you're at on Sunday. Also, can't wait to see how you perform in the CFP. Now, long layoff. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Fernando, have you thought at all how you're going to kind of approach these next, you know, little over three weeks before you play again? Obviously, we saw last year, Oregon, how good they looked going into the college football playoff, and then they have the long layoff and get boat raced at the Rose Bowl. I know Sig kind of mentioned it after the game that that's going to be a big part of his job, but have you thought at all about, like, what you're going to have to do to kind of prepare and make sure that you're the best version of yourself on January 1st?

1:50:35Yeah, the Rose Bowl, I think, is almost every kid's dream to play, and that game is just magical. And after the game, we beat Ohio State. It was fantastic. There was adrenaline running through my body, and I basically couldn't sleep. So I was watching the program, and I saw Coach Saban, who Coach Ignite cuts with the Saban tree, talking about how you've got to take that break and really have a one-game season, hopefully. and we anticipate it being more than a one-game season at this point. However, to not really practice through, and I think Coach Cignetti's taking that approach to give us a little bit of a reset now, and then so we're able to attack the Rose Bowl with all we got.

1:51:10Pat McAfee:Coach Cignetti is awesome. He is a special character in all of sports, not just football. Last question here from Tone before we have a hard out. Yeah, Fernando, based off of that, he said, like literally as soon as he got the microphone, he said, I got three and a half weeks to keep these boys humble or sorry, humble and hungry. Is that the mantra kind of going into these three and a half weeks? And has he already started that? Is he already trying to humble you guys after the Big Ten championship? So the first contact we have is a team meeting at four today. So I guess I'll get a good taste of that.

1:51:41However, Coach McNair is always trying to keep us humble and hungry, whether it's after the big win at Oregon, whether it's after the Penn State win, and especially after this win, there's still a lot going to be to clean up on tape and there's going to be a lot. if we want to get to where we want to go, which is the national championship, there's a lot that we need to improve on. And I'm all for it. My team's all for it. We have that chip on our shoulder. We're humble. We're hungry. We're ready to get to work.

1:52:04Pat McAfee:We can't wait to watch you win the Heisman, brother. Yep. Go! Indiana Hoosier football player wins the Heisman. Crazy. Indiana Hoosier football team, number one in the country. Wow. Indiana Hoosier football team, only undefeated team in the country. As we head into the college football playoffs, We want to say thank you to you and your teammates for everything you've done this year, and good luck the rest of the way, Fernando. Thank you so much. What a time to be alive. Go Hoosiers. God bless. What a time to be alive. Ladies and gentlemen, Fernando. Yeah, Fernando! He's awesome. Chills. Like, love that fucking guy.

1:52:38Pat McAfee:So that's who you want in your NFL. You think he'll do good in, like, the interview process? Tricky, too. We had a little bit of tricky, too, so as soon as I see him kind of come on the over, I knew I just had to throw it far, basically. And I was able to do that. It's like, yeah. You know, they were getting a little matchy. His numbers weren't really that good on the numbers. I don't know if Matt was doing it on purpose or not. Feels like he's cheating a little bit. Don't think that should be allowed. I mean, he's the guy. And he's a tough guy. Age, he's a tough guy. Perfect. I didn't think he was coming back.

1:53:07I thought he was gone after one play, man.

1:53:09Pat McAfee:He was jumping into that. Go ahead. Go ahead. Just do it. Just first play. Give me that. Boom! and he didn't miss the opportunity and he didn't complain one time. Let's play football. Let's do that. It's a beautiful thing. Our sport is the greatest. Our show is the worst. So thank you for watching. We continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. That really came together well there. I was thinking about adding a Monday Night Football plug in there because obviously it's big tonight. There was a super fun day. Oh, fucking Monsters 8 game. See, that's why I didn't do it because I didn't know all the insight.

1:53:42Pat McAfee:Fun day football. That's all I knew. So it's actually Monsters Fun Day Football. Mike Wazowski is going to have so many touchdowns. So no Manning cast. No, this is in place of the Manning cast. This is the fun day of football. So who is this again? I think I know most animations. Monsters, Inc., who's that? Pixar. Really good. You should. Who is in it? Billy Crystal and John Goodman are the two stars. Oh, you were talking about real people. I was going to say, Sully is the main character. He's a monster. He's a great scarer. And they basically, no spoilers, if you haven't seen it, stop listening.

1:54:14they have to go into little kids' rooms at night and scare them to get energy for their planet to exist or their world to exist.

1:54:20Pat McAfee:Yes. Oh, my God. That's amazing. Ken's going to love this. Yeah. Boo. Boo's a little girl. She's also a main character. She becomes really good friends with Sully. It's great, Tom. I know that thing. That's Sully. Yeah. That's Sully and Mike Wazowski. Okay. I know. They went to college together. Monsters U. Really? Where's that at? Monsters University. Yeah. Monstertown. It's truly a magnificent story. Monsters U is the second movie. They're going to be the quarterbacks, I assume? I don't know if Wazowski is quarterback. I think so is coming off the edge. And Wazowski is probably a Saquon character.

1:54:48He looks more of a running back. Yeah, a little slippery fella. I'm assuming the quarterback's moving. What are we talking about? Hold on. Are they animated players? Like, they're going to animate the real game as players? You remember the Simpsons Funday Football? It's like Moe Sislak in the paint. What about SpongeBob, too?

1:55:04Pat McAfee:Didn't they have one? Yeah. There you go. Yeah, Slime Zone. And what was the other one? Toy Story. Toy Story. Who's commentating this? Are they going to be commentators? Dan Orlowski. It has to be Dan. Definitely Dan Orlovsky. Can you call Dan Orlovsky? Let's see if it's him. I'm betting it's Dan Orlovsky, though. This has him written all over it. Yeah. Lucky son of a bitch. I agree. I mean, it sounds like you got some real passion towards Monsters, Inc. What I'm thinking about is my daughter immediately enjoying this. Yeah. I saw one of them in the theater with my kids, the first one. Just right there would capture her.

1:55:33Pat McAfee:And if they were singing somehow, if they could get some singing at the beginning of this thing, you might be able to get old Kenzie locked into a full 40. That is on the left there. Yeah, Monsters ain't not actually a singing Pixar movie. It is more so. There's no songs in there? No, no, they do not do songs. That's why my kids don't like it. We did just go see Zootopia 2 this weekend. How was that? Foxy said it. It was great. It's made up a million dollars. Good for them. Yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who we assume is on the call for any gimmicky bullshit that happens on ESPN.

1:56:05Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rolowski. Hey, Dan Rolowski. He's dressed for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you on a call tonight? Yeah, I am. We just learned about this this morning. We should have been paying attention more. I do like that you're having a little food. We apologize for interrupting your lunch here. It's going to be a late night. Tell me a little bit more about Monsters Fun Day Football. The boys love Monsters, Inc. My daughter might be super excited about this. What's the plan for tonight, Dano? Yeah, obviously started three years ago with Toy Story, last year, Simpsons, Monsters, Inc.

1:56:39this year. I did Simpsons last year. I have a ton of fun with it. I think the sell that I have is like, listen, football's on basically every night in America. More often than not, the games are somewhat the same. You know, like you take them in the same way. It's on a network versus on the game. The games are somewhat the same. This is just different. You're not going to watch this for football. You're going to watch this for like the fun and entertainment. Chris Berman makes a cameo. What? Is he so-y? just chris berman makes a cameo which is pretty cool um i don't know i did i did it last year it's fun i did it this year again partly because it's different and partly because my son madden adores uh monsters inc with his autism and the animation imagery of stuff so uh he's beyond

1:57:27Pat McAfee:excited so yeah i assume that my daughter is gonna love this as well uh soon as she hears your voice you know we'll see the reaction i guess that's what we'll see yeah we'll see what the reaction is i guess you know because last year you did it i don't think she was really old enough or smart enough to understand completely what's going on now she gets hey yeah ken's gets shit now she really does it's a whole new and it's it's different tonight like um they're not doing it it's like you know sully is with the eagles and no sully's with the chargers and mike wazowski is a little one-eyed dude is with the eagles good um and like they're playing they're playing on the team and obviously the game happens but they're not keeping score in in the world that we're in they're not keeping score the same way as it will be on monday night football with troy and joe and whatnot like you get points off explosive plays there's a halftime competition between the two of them so it'll be like very entertaining for uh like for a lot of different ways.

1:58:28Pat McAfee:Alright, we can't wait to watch it, man. Good luck. We're happy you're the one that was selected for it. You're perfect for the gig. Hell yeah. Would you do like impressions and voices? No, no impressions. No, no. They have they have like all of that stuff already pre-taped and you know, all the characters that have been like in the movies. They have all that stuff. Steve Buscemi is going to be there. Are you going to tell my daughter that it's not pre-recorded though whenever she's watching Mackenzie? It might be too late. She's probably listening right now. Game rigged? No, I mean, obviously the game's not pre-recorded, but they have spots already recorded where Sully has a one-off on a thing or Mike Wazowski has a one-off.

1:59:11Wazowski must have somebody. Got it. Need a Dan Wazowski impression. Yeah. That's you, brother. That's not me. Why not? Take a shot, brother.

1:59:25Pat McAfee:You do great with a Boston accent, right, Dunny? Mm-hmm. I think you can drop into one of those. Boston? I feel like I have a good Boston accent. What's today? That sucks, but. So if we're to go in reverse order. That's pretty good. We'd say tomorrow, today, and then. Yesterday. See, I just stick to that one. And I want to hear a couple of Wazowski yesterdays. I was talking to this one-eyed freak yesterday. he said this. I was talking to this Bigfoot yesterday. He said this. It is kind of Boston name, Sully. Wachowicz. And Wazowski. Wazowski. A couple of Wazowski. It should be a couple of Kenny Albert odes as well, potentially.

2:00:06Yes! Yeah, like a Wazowski! Yes! You should do that 100, 150 times.

2:00:11Pat McAfee:And then on the other side of the ball, you can also drop a... Yeah, Sully! Yes! Yes! And then Justin Herbert plays with a broken hand. Yes! And then Jalen Hurts hands off. Saquon, we have a touchdown. Yes! Jalen Hurts! Taking the handoff from Wazowski. Yes! Do one of those. Five of those. That's what we're talking about. Keeping the kids engaged. Yeah. I'll do my very best. Maybe if I can come to Bristol and kind of just step in for me, that'd be awesome. No, I'm good. I'm good. All right. All right. All right. What do you think about the CFP, Dan? I've been seeing you getting involved in college more.

2:00:49Pat McAfee:starting to dive in. I appreciated your text. Dan sent me a text. He said a couple years ago I had Penn State at Indiana. Three years ago. Penn State at Indiana. There was actually 2 ,500 people in the stadium. Actually 2 ,500 people in the stadium. Obviously things are vastly different now. Indiana's the number one team in the country heading into the playoffs. Obviously everybody has heard about who the top 12 teams are or who the 12 are going on. What are your thoughts on it all? Alabama didn't love that. I saw you tweeted Alabama had negative yards rushing in the SEC championship what are we even talking negative how's that negative yards rushing agree so what's your take

2:01:28one the college football committee and the process they go about has not evolved with the advancement of how many teams we have in the playoffs I think they you know the the playoff has grown yet the way that we select teams or go about criteria of selecting teams has remained the same uh two i we don't have the 12 best teams what so anybody we don't there's no i mean come on like i i'll do respect to jmu and tulane we don't have the 12 best teams that's unequivocally indisputable so we we have to we can't continue to you know phrase it as that it's not the 12 best um and i just look at the way that bama has played over the last month on friday i was like i think Bama's in unless they just get smoked on Saturday.

2:02:18They got smoked on Saturday. So the way that Notre Dame has played for the majority of the season, everyone's like, well, Notre Dame should schedule SEC teams. They quite literally did that. And so I think the way that Notre Dame went to kind of about the season and not losing three games and not getting smoked in a title game and not playing their worst football in the final month, that's what Alabama's done. I just, Notre Dame seems like the better football team right now.

2:02:48Pat McAfee:It's crazy to think about because Alabama's favored, right, against Oklahoma? Yeah. Alabama's favored against Oklahoma. And who knows what the next round would be with Alabama, whether or not they'll be favored, you know, in it all. Sportsbooks obviously view something in a manner in which they're trying to get 50 % of the bets on one side, 50 % of the bets on the other side. Nonetheless, Alabama favored against Oklahoma in the first round. I think it's because when Oklahoma went to Bama, and they won, but they were outgained by like 250 yards. It was like one of those situations. It was like a Steelers game.

2:03:17They somehow won, but they shouldn't have. I like Oklahoma a lot, but I like early in the year.

2:03:22Pat McAfee:Well, you like the Ravens outgaining the Pittsburgh Steelers? Do you like every team having more yards than the Pittsburgh Steelers? Because before the season started, Dan Orlovsky, Dan Wysbowski. Yeah. Dan Wysowski. Wysowski. Dan Wysowski said Steelers are going to be in trouble. You think Aaron and Artie are going to do anything? Yeah, right. that's what Dan Orlovsky said going into the year. He nailed it on the head. And they're currently leading AFC North, Dan, so I don't know if you feel like you were right or if you were wrong. No, I mean, they're going to be, like I said, they're going to be like 10-7, 9-8.

2:03:54They're going to either get into the playoffs and lose in their first round or not get into the playoffs. They're going to have the 18th pick in the draft. Roll it back next year. That's pretty good.

2:04:04Pat McAfee:Here we go. I didn't know being AFC North champions was a bad thing. Yeah, me neither. there i thought this was a prideful division i thought that's what we're talking about i thought they were one of those organizations that you know it was one thing or nothing else and that was a championship agreed okay it's the north championship coming right down the point we got enough of those i'm just saying another one's coming you guys continue to do that aaron's going to throw another goal ball down the field if the ravens want to cover it yep there you go 152 yards yesterday on bill routes the uh the ravens problem they have zero pass rush how about on offense they have no touchdowns what's going on with lamar man what's the deal yeah i mean simply put lamar has looked this is the worst year of lamar's career not even close geez number one throwing the football he has just so many misses number two I mean, that's a miss by three yards.

2:05:03Like I said this jokingly last week was, Lamar's got the same type of misses that J.J. McCarthy has had this year. Just egregious misses where you go, how can you do that? This ball's three yards short. Second thing is, Lamar's run away from everybody in the NFL. He has been caught in one-on-one situations more often than not, or more so than ever in his career before. I thought late in the game I thought there were some drops this year I think they dropped three touchdowns But if you go also late in the game It's almost like he's looking for the check down immediately Like getting the ball out into short completions Rather than there's some in routes that are coming open late And then Highsmith was phenomenal yesterday He tracks him down late So this offense is broken in Baltimore And it's literally insane to think of it Because last year it was historically great And for the most part it's the same humans this year

2:05:57Pat McAfee:That's tough. That's tough. Good luck next year, Baltimore. Good luck next year. You think they'll make any changes? You're going to have to. You can't go into a Super Bowl coming off of a, I think they were 14-3 last year, if I'm correct. I could be wrong on that. But something like that and going into this season, they were, to a man, unquestioned the best roster in football. Yep. Certainly in the AFC. Chuck Pagano said, I don't want to do the show anymore. I want to go coach, try to win a Super Bowl. Yeah, and I bet he regrets that.

2:06:32Pat McAfee:Tough days when you lose games. All right, we appreciate you. What do you got, NFL Live and then your day in Wyschnasky? NFL Live and then Monsters game and then live tomorrow and then actually bomb down to Baltimore for the first time ever having on ESPN the high school national title game with Joe Tess on Wednesday. Wow. Stop by Jimmy's, obviously. Whenever you're in Baltimore, you need to do that. Jimmy's famous. But follow-up, that is awesome. You and Tessitore are calling a high school game. What is this? Yeah, Wednesday night, the national title in Baltimore. The two schools are St. Francis Academy out of Baltimore.

2:07:09That's got, like, dudes going everywhere. They're loaded. And then team from Utah that is the place where Zach Wilson went to high school and Jackson Dart went to high school.

2:07:20Pat McAfee:No Florida teams. Wow, that's crazy. I would never have guessed that. I think – I don't know exactly how they – I think you have to, like – No Pennsylvania team? Intentionally enter. Cali, Texas? Almost like a... You know, like you have to intentionally enter. Like we're playing for the national championship tournament, I guess, maybe. Rather than... Oh, then it's kind of monitored throughout the entire year. You got to sign up for it and then it's a point system throughout the entire year. Got it. Yeah, something like that. Y 'all got to sign up. So you're not definitely playing against the same quality of opponent, but you are accruing points throughout the season, I would assume, for it.

2:07:52Yeah, I think it's something along those lines, yeah.

2:07:55Pat McAfee:Got it. So those who signed up, these are the two best teams throughout the year that signed up for them. Yeah, USA football. Yeah, but on that note, I do think it's cool that, you know, it's happening. Like, I think that's cool. I don't know how you have an actual high school national champion. Yeah, it's impossible. That would be tough. The last they go to in the playoff. Well, Dan Orlovsky will crown him. We appreciate you, Dan. Hell yeah. No, I really appreciate you guys. Thank you. It sounds like you don't really. We're trying to talk about you being Mr. One-Eyed Wyschnowski tonight. We knew, before we even knew you were a part of it.

2:08:29How did you not know that it was tonight? Like, how did you not know of this? It's been all over the network you're on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they play the commercial for it way more than the college football playoff song. So it was kind of weird.

2:08:41Pat McAfee:Oh, see, I've seen the college football playoff. I have not seen it. This is my first time watching this. I haven't either. Oh, such a good movie. This is just a movie trailer, right? Yeah, this is not the promo for me. Have you guys seen these movies? Oh, it is. Yes. Oh, yeah. So good. I've been to Monsters U, bro. I have not seen the movies, but I think my daughter will. They're awesome. No singing I heard. All scary. Yeah, there is. You know what? I don't think so, yeah. I don't believe there's any singing. Monsters U has good pep rally, but no actual song. What I've learned about Ken is thus far, she needs a little bop at some point.

2:09:19Pat McAfee:She needs to feel it a little bit. Have we started Christmas movies at all with her? Oh, yeah, brother. Do we have a favorite? Loves the Grinch, the animated version. Loves the Grinch. Oh, with Boris Karloff. Benedict. No one's got any fucking respect for the original. I'm definitely not talking about Boris, I'll tell you that. Should be. I don't know if Ken's even seen that one. We tried to play it to her and say, hey, this is the original. You need to respect this. And then as soon as it came on, she said, this sucks compared to every other movie that I watched. She's wrong. Well, technology just advances so much.

2:09:53Cumberbatch is so good. That one is good, though.

2:09:55Pat McAfee:Jim Carrey one's amazing. She likes that one. That's the one? Yeah. That is the one. It's the guy. No, but she likes the animated one more. Yeah, and that one is good. The opening of the Cumberbatch one where it's got the little goals, and then they fucking go down the hill. Oh, skiing. Yeah, exactly. Unbelievable. Who thought it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. These things fucking bombing down Mount Crumpet. Any of you would recommend? Obviously, Father of Four, anything I need other than Monsters, Inc. I'm learning that my daughter needs to ski. How old is she now? Two and a half. 2 is something? I mean, Christmas Chronicles are elite.

2:10:27She might be a year too young for it, but Christmas Chronicles are off the charts. Has she seen Die Hard?

2:10:34Pat McAfee:She has not seen Die Hard just yet. Polar Express is kind of weird. I mean, Santa Claus she could watch even. Tim Allen, yep. She loves... That is her Santa. Mine didn't love that Santa fell off the roof to start. Boom! That's classic Disney. Red one. Watch that. Red one. This is Uncle Rob. Yeah. He's two and a half. Yeah, early. Perfect. All right. I appreciate the hell out of you, Dan. Good luck tonight is your attempt the impossible. Just a man being a monster. That's right. And that's what it's all about. Hell yeah. Thank you, Dan, for your service. Say fuck tonight, Dan. Oh, that'd be a good time.

2:11:13Pat McAfee:The kids are watching. What'd he say? What? Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski. Yeah, Dan. Oh! that's monsters fun day football tonight on espn 2 all right speaking of tonight let's make our picks let's do this i had a tough weekend age in the nfl this has happened multiple times throughout the season where i'm completely locked in on the college slate nfl slate not good okay this i had my worst weekend ever maybe in the nfl this weekend but on the flip side best weekend i've ever had college football that's the way it goes aj seeing the field oh yeah let's see what aj thinks even while i was making these picks on friday and i was disagreeing with aj so much i said boy this is not good because aj's been seeing it uh aj well how do you feel about tonight's game but before that before that i apologize for cutting you off here 62 of the money is on the philadelphia eagles favored by two and a half on the road any other stats or we need to know tone about tonight I'm seeing two and a half across the board now, so just keep that in mind.

2:12:17The public this weekend on 60 % or more of the teams that were getting the public bet were four and six. So not terrible. Not a winning weekend, but not terrible. Could have been worse. Never ends with these motherfuckers. Herbert as a home dog. One and nine straight up, three, six, and one against the spread. So if you want to keep that in mind, and Overs had a big weekend this week. I believe they were 11 and one at some point. I can't remember what they finished, but it was a good weekend for the Overs as well.

2:12:42Pat McAfee:Here's a Hembo stat about the Eagles under Sirianni. When the spread's between minus three and plus three, they're 17-5. When they're favored by three or fewer, they're 11-2 against the spread. Eagles minus two and a half, Ed Chargers, shout out. DraftKings, everything says you like the Eagles, other than the 62 % number, which was four and six this weekend. Every single fucking weekend we lose to these people. Dee Butch, we'll let you go first here, kind of set the table. Yeah. Who do you like? How do you like? Well, these are two of my teams. Very familiar with these squads. Can't lose. Quarterbacks, these head coaches, great.

2:13:17Check all those boxes. The fact that the Eagles are coming in on the hills are getting the ball ran down their throat from the Chicago Bears last time they took the field. I think Fangio's going to have the boys ready. I think they win and cover, and this game is going to come down to a phenomenal all-time matchup in the slot with Lamaconky and Cooper DeGene. Fourth quarter is going to come down to them and drive those two guys. Why is that all-time? I think just too athletic, just fast, quick, twitchy guys. Good dancers. It's going to come down to either great one-hand back shoulder catch or just a nasty pick on the sideline, toe tap, too many drives.

2:13:57Can't wait. High jumpers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's got that.

2:14:00Pat McAfee:Lunch pale guys, yeah. Coaches, kids, I assume. If I had to guess. First one in. No, I think these guys just depend on their athleticism. Oh, really? Yeah. We're talking Ladd Mkanky and Cooper DeGene? I think they can both dunk, too. No smarts? Windmills. Cooper DeGene. They're smart. Instinct. Ladd certainly can, too. I'm sure he can, but he ain't dunking like Cooper DeGene is. I know that. Chris Rhyme, RIM, is reporting that offense coordinator Greg Roman yesterday on Cooper DeGene matching up with Ladd. I was born a night, but not last night. Vic's going to have different ways to leverage coverage to where it's not one-on-one at all times.

2:14:35But as far as that matchup, I like Ladd against anybody. I like that. Yeah, it's a little shit talk. Basically saying you better not leave him one-on-one with that.

2:14:43Pat McAfee:Hey, Vic's smarter than that. That's what he said. Yeah. That's a great shit talk right there. That was like when Nardu said, Nardu Dame might win by 100. Yeah. So. He was right. They were still in it. Duke ends up winning the ACC. That was a good ball game. All right. D-Butch on Philadelphia tonight, AJ. You are 7-4-1 on the weekend. People are losing against the books. You are not. Fresh haircut, obviously a little bit of spite coming off a big Ohio State loss in the Big Ten championship. How do you see it? What do you like? Initially, I was leaning Chargers, to be honest with you, but especially after seeing Hembo's stats and feeling what this Philadelphia Eagles team must be feeling mentally, I think they come out on fire.

2:15:27So give me Philly to win and cover minus two and a half.

2:15:29Pat McAfee:I feel the exact same way. I liked Herbert coming in there with a plate and a screw in his hand. Tough. Tough. Boy, it's a rally for him playing like this. Fuck it. What am I, 3-8-1? Who cares? I'll take the Chargers. Yeah. Give me the Chargers. Plus two and a half. Jalen Carter at? That's a big deal. Omari and Hampton. Might be. Yeah, most likely activated before four is what Schefter said. Herbert's still questionable. Have we heard he's definitely going to play? I'm worried about that thing. I don't think so. I would like to not be on the Chargers if Herbert's not playing, though. Okay, I would like that little caveat.

2:16:04Pat McAfee:A little caveat. Yeah, you're on it at two and a half because if Herbert's out, that thing's going to go up to five and a half, and then you can go to the Eagles. Yeah, I would like to take mine to the Eagles. Probably more than that. At two and a half. Yeah. If we hear about Herbert. Not that. Okay. Deal? Okay. Deal, yeah. I'll stay with the Eagles no matter what, but, yeah, you can do that. Doesn't matter. Three, eight, and one. I see Mario Cristobal on TV. Again? I thought he's done. He's done campaign. Aren't you guys not yet good, right, Gumby? Yeah, the better team got in. Head to head, we won.

2:16:38I don't make the rules. I don't think – I don't make the rules, Gumby. Something awesome happened on Thursday or Friday of last week where Miami and Notre Dame put their swords down against each other and just started attacking Alabama. That was fun to watch.

2:16:53Pat McAfee:Well, there was a time, though, where the ACC was just attacking Notre Dame. That was happening, too. And Pete Pavakla, AD of Notre Dame this morning on Dan Patrick, was like, I can't believe they did that. We are like one of their biggest business partners. Just an all-out assault on us? Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's what it sounded like coming out of Bavacua. Oh, that's what he said. What did he say? Like it was... We were mystified. We've done permanent damage to the relationship. Oh, you want to fuck us? Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Love it. I do too. I also enjoy how active he has been in this entire thing.

2:17:32Pat McAfee:We know him, so there's a little bias, I guess. I'm not represented by him or his agent, which we learned on College Game Day. We were all learning that in real time on who was whose agent. It was kind of a fun little game. It was kind of a fun little game. I actually, yes. Me, I'm not. Me neither. And then Des. I think I've been pretty rude through this entire thing to this guy. That's basically what Des said of there. It was crazy. But I like the way Bavacua has been operating. You can tell he loves Notre Dame. Not that these other places don't, but it's like the Notre Dame people coming together, it's a good time for a fight.

2:18:05Pat McAfee:Every once in a while, you need a good, hey, rally call to kind of bring everybody together. Not saying it's a good outcome, but I'm saying it has been a good, I like a good positive sign of force that the Notre Dame fans and faithful have shown. It's also cool that he's carrying the shield. You don't expect Marcus Freeman to go do any of this bullshit. It's almost as if he kind of looked around like... No, you would expect Marcus Freeman to do this bullshit is what you mean, right? No, I don't know if I've really ever seen him do interviews in general. Let's keep Marcus Freeman clean. That's what I'm saying.

2:18:35Pat McAfee:A baby face. I think it's a conscious decision to keep Marcus Freeman clean because it's like Coach Cristobal was on TV right over there. There's been a couple other coaches that have had to speak. It feels like Notre Dame has been like, we don't need the most likable fucking coach we've ever had in history out there, right? Nope. Who was going to do it then? Bavoc was like, I'll fucking. What do we need? We're better than everybody? You got it. Where do you want me to go? Everywhere. All right, fuck it. I'll do every single show. And that is literally what he has done. And what was that? Breaking that that was a captain's decision to not play in a ballgame?

2:19:08I did not see that anywhere. Yeah, everybody was just saying, oh, they're pouting. They're taking their ball. That's what it looked like because you mentioned it was so quick after. So I'd be interested to know the details on that, how that conversation came about because I bet people view it much differently.

2:19:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, because our source says have told us that the captains kind of met with Marcus Freeman and we're like, half our team's not going to be here. Should we? I don't think we should do this without him. But also, do we want to really, what do we, what is the, I guess that conversation was already had, like from before the playoff thing. And it was mostly because they didn't feel as if it was right to try to pitch any of these guys that are going to the NFL to come back and play in the Pop-Dart Bowl. Exactly. That is basically what was kind of, not the exact words we were told, but as we were told, like, hey, you know, the captains talked about this and didn't want half their team to go represent this particular team, which they really like.

2:20:07Pat McAfee:And so they're just deciding to kind of move on as like what it ended with. Well, and that's the biggest thing that the playoff has kind of changed. I mean, one of the biggest things is like back when there were only four teams, like you didn't have guys opting out because like you'd still go play in the Rose Bowl. and that was a big deal. Or you'd go play in the Sugar Bowl or whatever the rotating was at the time. But now you could understand that. It's like we feel like we should have been in the playoff. We're not going to the game where people are eating the fucking mascots after the game.

2:20:33We're not doing that. Let one of these other podunk schools do that. We believe we should have got in. Now if we're going to play for a Rose Bowl, maybe that changes things a little bit. But we're not. We're playing in the fucking Relia Quest Bowl. What if it was a promise for it to be Notre Dame, BYU? Still.

2:20:49Pat McAfee:In the mail. It'd be cool to watch, but it doesn't fucking mean anything. I think BYU's playing Vandy, I think. No, they're not. Iowa's playing Vandy. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. Cameron, who's BYU? Oh, boy. Oh, boy, Diego Pavia's got something else coming to him. I just saw him at the UFC event, him and the boys. You know what Kirk's dogs were doing? What's that? Fucking outside practicing in the snow. Okay. Nothing else to do out there. Eating dirt and gravel and getting ready for the fucking Real I-Quest Bowl. Diego did look cool, though. He did. He looked very cool. He looked very cool. And if I were in his position, I tell you what, I wouldn't mind going to a fucking UFC event and getting treated like a VIP all night either.

2:21:26So I'm not, you know, I'm not. We're not casting stones. Yeah, no, no. I'm not throwing stones from a glass house or anything. But what we are saying is the Iowa boys ain't doing this. Absolutely not. It's not a bad city to beat a man in. Nashville? Nashville. Yeah. Yeah. What, he's 21 years old? No.

2:21:46Pat McAfee:No, he's actually like 25. Oh, shit. No, he's not actually 27. He's like 24 or 23 or something like that. I forget what it was. 23. Okay. Sorry, he's 24. 24 years old. The point remains. 24. I'm getting different reports. Oh, geez. He's 23 or 24. I'm looking to this guy. I'll tell you what. I'm not sick of Google trying to make me sign in and do this and track me this where every time I ask it a question. Okay, you're going to send me over to chat GPT like all these other fucking mindless people. 23. Wikipedia. Final source. It's 23 years old. Okay, not a bad city of BK. Oh, so cash in your pocket as well

2:22:29Pat McAfee:The boys are here to see him back they told us to walk separately so we get a fucking Heisman thing who won the big fight

2:22:44Pat McAfee:I tried But he did it. Petr Jan looked unbelievable. Yes, he did. He was fucking up. Right to Marab's face. I thought it was a ground and pie. He was, but every once in a while you got – did you see Conor McGregor talking boxing? I did. Yeah. School him up, sweet side. You guys go opposite foot. You guys step weird. I like that. Looks like Conor's living his life, you know? Mm-hmm. Had a big change a couple weeks ago. Yep. The Lord. That's right. And now I hear he's dropping a strand with Tyson. I believe that's what that entire meeting was. Oh, I didn't know. Okay. I think they're dropping some tree.

2:23:22Pat McAfee:Seems like it. That's normally the path. You find Jesus and then come out with a strand. Hey, we're going to see how it goes. Good luck out there, boys. Going for you. I think what you need to do. There it is. When's Jake Paul fighting? It's Anthony Joshua, right? Is that this weekend? It's the weekend of the 19th. I mean, that's a scary one. I think it's either the Friday or there's a college football playoff game that night as well. Yeah, nice. Turn that off. You want to go to the boxing match. What do we think exactly? What do we think that whole thing? A lot of people have a lot of opinions about Jake Paul fighting Anthony Joshua.

2:23:55Pat McAfee:Some people are saying that fight's not going to happen. Why are people saying? People are saying the fight's not going to happen. Why would it not happen? I don't know why. They canceled one that was supposed to happen to get. Like, wasn't it supposed to be Tank Davis? Then they moved on to Anthony Joshua. I mean, I like it. Look, if he long shot, if he beats him, he'll be much more respected. Most people expect him to get killed by Anthony Johnson. That's why people don't think it's going to happen because we're looking at a Rocky IV situation. This is like a real fight, though, right? He wanted to.

2:24:23Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big weight difference in those two, right?

2:24:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, and size. I mean, just in experience, years of experience. But, I mean, this is what Jake Paul is about, I guess. Jake Paul is talking about this from the jump, you know. Hey, I'm trying to be champ. I'm trying to be taken serious. Nobody will fight me. Nobody will fight me. Anthony Joshua says, I'll take the fight. I mean, what a card for Jake Paul to get. Him and Anthony Joshua at the top. A lot of people are going to watch that. I mean, if he loses, does he continue boxing? No guy. Yes. Yes. He's committed his whole life to this, right? Yeah. That's kind of what I've learned through it all, is he's committed his whole life to boxing.

2:25:02Pat McAfee:Lifestyle change, yeah. Like, his entire being to boxing. So maybe he takes a loss. If he takes a loss, just go and scrap yourself up off the mat. Let's answer the bell. Let's go to the next one. And then if he wins, Jake Paul is going to be loud on the internet if he wins this. Oh, my God. I think he's going to knock him the fuck out. You think Jake Paul is going to knock out Anthony Joshua? Yep. Great odds. 1 ,200 to take it. I bet your knockout is probably even. Oh, yeah. I think it was plus 1 ,200 there, which I thought was low. Jake Paul by KO, TKO, DQ, plus 1 ,200. They're saying the only way he wins is by knockout.

2:25:34Pat McAfee:Oh, they're saying if this thing goes, we know. Or DQ. Yeah. That'd be interesting. That could happen, yeah. Punch him in the nuts a couple times. There's a chance. Fuck it. Play defense. Yeah, might roll forward. What? Jump up. Jump. All of a sudden, below the belt starts moving when you're jumping. What's up? Yeah. Hook. Hook to the nuts. Just trying to win. Just trying to win by any means. Golly. Can you not Imagine a slow-mo replay of him jumping up This guy keeps hitting me in the dick I don't think Jake Paul would do that Not a bad strategy It's just like the baseball guys that do this When they get down real quick It's not a bad idea What's below the belt if everything If the belt's potentially moving The belt could be here to here You don't worry about those guys though You just try to hit them in the fucking head Because then they won't do it again It's more of a Mickey Mouse Little League thing It is Oh you're talking about baseball?

2:26:37Yeah guys who do that Imagine Noah and Ryan with a guy doing that to Noah and Ryan Bingo He hit him right and he tried to kill him

2:26:44Pat McAfee:So that's what you guys do in baseball? No I'm just saying like that is a Mickey The only kid who does that is like the kid who's 4 '8 on the Little League team Who weighs like 65 pounds who can't get a base hit So he's like I gotta walk I gotta strength to strike And then it's like okay well if you want to do that I'm gonna throw it as hard as I can at your head Every single time I'll walk you, but guess what? I might plunk you as well. On-base percentage, pre-I. That's an important thing. Adam Schefter's reporting that Colts quarterback Riley Leonard is also dealing with a knee. Hi. Hi. Is AR coming back ever?

2:27:15What's going on? Still on AR. Still a couple weeks ago.

2:27:17Pat McAfee:Man. I was going to ask Schefter, are the Colts allowed to call the Bengals and say, hey, can you drop Joe Flacco? I hope so. Who else is out there? There ain't nobody, brother. Anyone on the street? Tyler Warren. He was our third stringer this week. Oh, they meant Tyler from Dude Perfect. Him too. He can play. Hold on now. He can. He's an athlete, man. He really is. All right, let's get to a break, and then we'll read over reactions on either side. I don't like that out, Shefter. Fucking keep it done. That's not good. We'll call him right now. Tannehill? Absolutely. Shefter, you part of the Monsters Inc cast?

2:27:52They should just forfeit. Don't they still have Shane Bushell? Oh, what about Beanie? Hey, we're live.

2:27:57Pat McAfee:We're live. We're still live. Jason Beanie. I just read your Riley Leonard thing. Colts, Javaris, war is in concussion. Fucking stop it with your tweets. Stop it with your tweets. What quarterback are we going to get? What quarterback is available out there for the Colts? Well, right now, it looks like Ripon's on the practice squad. He can play. He's not ready to come off IR. They're hopeful that Riley Leonard can make it back for Sunday. but they don't know that. So it's tough sledding in Indianapolis right now, as you know. Are you on the Monster Show tonight? Yeah. Oh, what are you doing? Just hanging out.

2:28:44Pat McAfee:Keeping busy. Usual stuff. No, the Monster Show tonight. What's the Monday Night Countdown? Please, Louise. All right, have a good one. Nope, nope, nope, nope. You missed it. See you. Hung up. Oh. That's tough. Another monster night in the NFL. That's right. Huge countdown. I don't know if you heard about what we got going on. Fucking big shit.

2:29:13Pat McAfee:Football. Sucks. Sports sucks. What happened? Well, Indiana is the number one team in the country. I should be pumped up about that. There you go. West Virginia might be getting into a bowl game because there isn't enough people to do bowls. Mm-hmm. The Colts are fucked, fucked. I mean, it just really kind of came. We're fucked. That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks of Tables here. We got Boss Conner and that's Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer. Die. Cowboys. AP Tone is here. You're not in a great spot either. Boom. Get me first. Casually, Indiana. I get it. Nine-year NFL vet. Darius J. Butler. Achilles is a long time.

2:29:52Pat McAfee:Long time. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to make the playoffs this year? Again? Nope. And then what are we going to do? I don't know if you can go that far. I mean, their schedule is not super easy here coming down the stretch. Hardest schedule remain in the entire NFL. We have the hardest schedule remaining. Oh, and if the season ended today, you'd be out. Yeah, we're lurking. And I believe in the boys. Riley Leonard's out. All right. See, he's maybe going to be back. Who knows? We'll bring in ripen. Brett. He can spin it. He rips it. Yep. Yeah. Ripping ripe. I understand that. But then what do we do next year?

2:30:26Yeah, I hope you lose out and then you use your first. Oh, never mind. Maybe your top five overall quarterback draft pick pans out.

2:30:34Pat McAfee:All right, see, this is what I'm talking about. That's actually a good point. All this happened during a break, which is why I was so bummed out on the way back in here. But I need to not be bummed out. It's a great day. We still got ball. So what? We were having the best times we'd ever had at the Loud House, watching a team that we fucking fell in love with again and just looked so different than every other team that we had been paying a lot of money to watch every single time play. Just felt different. Felt more explosive. Felt more in control. Felt like they had it. And then just what? Man, he's out again.

2:31:03Pat McAfee:Sauce Gardner, you trade two number ones overall. He's going. Dane Dimes, the guy's brought all this back. Yeah, he's going to fracture his fibula. You're going to have to suffer for a couple weeks watching him just kind of painfully play football. And then guess what? He's going to do a fucking Achilles on the other side. And then what week is it? Wrapping up 14, I think. So he's not going to be back for next year either. You've got Tyler Warren, though. Still got him. He could do it all. Jonathan Taylor. It's about ball. Jonathan Taylor is going to need to be paid. If not, he's going to do the whole song and dance next offseason.

2:31:36Pat McAfee:Once again, we're going to be a team that's not in the playoffs, and we've got a fucking guy. Could move him for a first. Oh, because we need one. We need a couple. I appreciate what you guys did here. First 11 weeks of the season. though. It was a hell of a run. It was a hell of a run. If they were able to pull it off now, it'd be magical. It'd truly be a work from God for them to be able to pull it off with the injuries that they have, the positions that they have, with the amount of money that they've invested in. And DeForest Buckner, is he okay? No. No, he's done. I'm willing to put down near everything I own on the Colts not winning the Super Bowl this year.

2:32:17Is that a bet you can have? Is it out there? I'm sorry.

2:32:22Pat McAfee:It sucks. That's devastating to hear that you're willing to do that. It really is. That's tough for me to really take in. I know you said drink this time. Go ahead and take this in at your own speed here whenever you said that. But that's crazy. You're not willing to bet on a Colts with your bulls. If you want, you get the minus 355 right now to miss the playoffs. Minus 355. That's pretty good odds and all. Minus? Yeah. Oh, okay. So everyone knows. Everybody's been kind of feeling this way, even when we were really good, remember? That was kind of the big conversation. Anyways, Colts are going to be, oh, we're not probably for a while.

2:32:59Pat McAfee:Fuck. Draft spectacular. In Pittsburgh. What if you trade JT and a couple others? You go up to one and get Mendoza. Hold the phone. That'd be quite a move. I mean, you get Tyler Warren and JT, Patriots will give you fucking Tommy Cutlets. That's an honest one. Something to think about, actually. That we need another Italian restaurant in here, in this city. I'm not going to think negatively. I think the boys are still going to be able to do it. Good luck. Do what? What do you reckon? They're going to get out there and play a game. Who do they have this week? At Seattle. Seattle, then the Niners, I believe.

2:33:39Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Catch a slip. Niners, Monday Night Football. They should think about it. We should think about it. Flexing. What's that? Well, if they didn't flex. We should think about it, too, flexing that sweep. No, no, no. We got to go. If they didn't flex this upcoming Monday night game, they're not flexing. Last year was a big statement. Last year, whenever we just no-showed a game, that was like a, hey, I don't like the way you guys are operating. I don't like this at all. This year, though, from what I've been hearing, they've been doing it right. They've been a professional football team. That's why I'm so bummed out for the boys and everybody in that building.

2:34:13Pat McAfee:And for us, mostly for us, though. Super bummed out for us because it was really cool. wouldn't it's not over i thought it last kind of it's kind of out in front of them kind of from espn research has steven holder obviously local coverage of the colts from espn research the last team who starts 7-1 and missed the playoffs was 2012 bears these tweets just keep getting better they went three and five over the last eight games finished 10-6 they missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker with the vikings colt search 7-1 or one of the three cents coming Why are we doing this? This is what people call journalism, I guess.

2:34:49Pat McAfee:What I call it is not good. You know what is good, though? Overreactions from around the league. And I don't know if any of them are about the Colts, but I do know that this morning I said, hey, listen, a lot has happened around the football universe, both in college and in the NFL. I'd love to hear where your heads are at because obviously we can speak to each other. That's kind of all we got. And whenever we're out and about, we get a chance to run into other football fans. It's nice to hear their takes. But a bird call on Monday morning to kind of get the temperature of every single fan base is a really beautiful thing to do.

2:35:19Pat McAfee:And if you don't scroll through those, you should. Every team is represented in there in every single level, even maybe a high school. I think there was a high school touchdown that got screwed, a state championship high school touchdown that got screwed. Just from scrolling these feeds, you'll see kid makes clear catch over his shoulder. You see this? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Clear catch over shoulder. Catches it about goal line. I'll say maybe a yard deep, two yards deep. Catches it, runs to the back of the end zone. Throws the ball down before he gets to the back of the end zone. Ref comes in, goes, that's no catch or whatever.

2:35:54Pat McAfee:And it's like, it's definitely a catch. I mean, clearly a catch. And then there's no Jumbo Chondo review, and that's a state championship game. Boom. Sad. Oh, my God. So, what I'm saying is, if you want to go on to X, There is a hashtag. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. That is loaded with overreactions from all around ball. Ty went through them and found his favorites. Let's dive in, shall we? This is from Bubba Gumpino. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. It was an all-time weekend for Miami sports. The U in the college football playoff. The Dolphins beat the absolute. Shite. Out of the Jets.

2:36:36Pat McAfee:Inter-Miami MLS Cup champions. Now, I got a chance to watch a little bit of that MLS championship. It ended up being 3-1, okay? And Messi had a filthy assist, and there was an own goal, and there was some other magic that took place. And I'm learning about some of the relationships of the players that they have off the field. It's obviously grabbing some headlines. But Messi and Beckham do it. The vision has happened. Beckham gets the team at$25 million because of a deal that he signed with the MLS whenever he chose to come to the MLS in the middle of his popularity and help build it. He was able to get this Inter-Miami team for$25 million.

2:37:12Pat McAfee:They're now worth like$1.3 billion or something like that. David Beckham, one of the best businessmen of all time. Of all time. One of the best investments of all time. And Messi delivers. And they were celebrating. Congrats to them and congrats to you, Gumpy, on not only that, but the Dolphins and the Hurricanes getting into the college football playoff when seemingly they had no reason to, especially after not playing all weekend and then jumping up a bunch of spots, but they did. Their team is good, and we're excited for you, Gumby. Yeah, life is good in the sports world. You talk about Miami, that's awesome.

2:37:44The Dolphins, though, just pounded the rock against the Jets. We're just going to run the ball the whole game. Not going to throw it at all. Just some old-school ball. We're bullying people right now.

2:37:54Pat McAfee:Tell me about Inter-Miami. They won the Super-Duper Cup. Are they playing again, or what happens next for them? That's the wrap for the season. Busquets and Alba go out their last game as champions. It was a pretty cool moment for those guys. And Messi playing for Argentina in the World Cup? Yeah, it's all set up. Round of 16 possibly. Messi, Ronaldo play each other in their last World Cup ever. Okay, do we know if it's actually his last World Cup? And speaking of that, how long is Messi playing for Inter-Miami? Are they going to run this back next year? Yeah, he's going to keep going. They just got DePaul who scored the game winner from Atletico Madrid.

2:38:24He's 31, so they're going to be going for a while still at Inter-Miami.

2:38:27Pat McAfee:How long How long do you sign with Inter-Miami? I think it's pretty much a lifetime contract into him owning a team in the MLS. It's the same as the Beckham deal, basically. The Beckham deal is crazy. I think I was in high school when it happened. I was playing soccer. And, you know, the conversation in soccer was if you want to be rich, you're going to have to do it in Europe. Like, if you want to be rich in soccer, it's not happening in America, which is certainly something that me and my family thought about, me a lot. I'm like, okay, if I want to make a shit ton of money in this sport, I'm going to have to live in Europe someday.

2:38:57Pat McAfee:That's what it's going to have to be. And then David Beckham came to the LA Galaxy, and they were talking about the amount of money he was making per fucking minute. And I'm like, wait a minute. There might be a shit ton of money coming into the MLS here. And I think it worked. I think it gained a lot of popularity, threw it out. Every place he went was sold out, and they kind of gave it a go. Then there was others. Thierry Henry did it. Wayne Rooney did it. Who else? Pirlo. Ibrahimović did it. What's that? Yeah, yeah, my bad. Freddie Adu. Who are you talking about? Pirlo, the legendary guy from Italy.

2:39:29He's the free kick dude who he scored on like every other free kick.

2:39:32Pat McAfee:He came and played in the MLS? Yeah, yeah, he came and played for the New York team. So it started to become like a thing, a thing, a thing. And then when Messi gets landed in the MLS, everybody's like, this is the one that it needs to, that needed to happen. And it kind of has, right, for the MLS? I think Messi has continued to be a talking point. Yeah, massive. And then Mueller from Germany, he was on the Whitecaps. So the final was kind of like the perfect final MLS would want. Thomas Mueller? Yeah, like two of the biggest stars. in the final. And Barhalter as well. Let's not forget about the U.S.

2:40:01Pat McAfee:lad. And we got a chance to catch up with the United States men's national team coach, Coach Ponchettino, this morning. And this is his message to the United States people about the type of team he's going to have and how we can all help. We, like, because we are not a successful men's national team, because women are very successful, but we are not very successful in World Cup. And I think we need to create, like we created in the last two window. I think the fans become exciting when we see this type of tackle, this type of goal that we score, how we celebrate. If our players have the possibility to sing the anthem and show the emotion to our fans, it's very contagious.

2:40:42And you are very, very passionate people that you for sure came quick in behind the team and create the energy that the team needs to be really, really strong. That is an unbelievable country. Unbelievable people. When you are so excited, it's possible that you can achieve everything that you want. You arrived to the moon. You were the first. Hell yes. Everything. But that is true. It's true. The most powerful country in every single area. Why not in soccer? Why not? That is what we want. Why not in soccer? Why not? Look, but that is one good thing.

2:41:22Pat McAfee:Why not us? Why not us? Hell yeah. Why not? I know why it could happen. That's because we got you. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. Yeah, age. Age. Yeah, good for him. They found the right guy. We talked to him for about 15, 20 minutes. His English certainly is. Thank you for the contagious, for the contagious caption. Well, it sounded kind of like contentious. And then we thought about this maybe third, fourth language. His parents are Italian. He grew up in Argentina. so who knows how many he played for espanol for a long time over there in spain which is now the team that jj watt owns it's like i think english maybe third language second language whatever it was and you can understand what he's saying and he has a good like kind of rolodex of words but it is cunt those words like what can we roll into there just wanted people to know he thought it was contagious not contentious we made that decision not him but talking to him we got the right guy feels like he wants yeah hey we're not legit we're fucking there was a lot of him like hey you are playing for your country you're tired we don't care basically is what he said nobody cares if you're tired like you're playing for your country and he talked about where he was from in argentina and how they feel about playing for the national team and then i mentioned how every single person that has scored for america or celebrated for america since ponch has become the head coach they immediately go to the usa match i mean just immediately to the shield for the country so it's like that is seemingly a non-negotiable for him he actually said that like this is a non-negotiable we are playing for america the best country on earth we're powerful in every single thing we're gonna tackle people hard we're not gonna flop like he has these core values it feels like and he finds he found the guys that he wants on his team and doing so obviously he left some other guys off the roster and he caused a little bit of a stir and maybe we didn't win as much as we could but he was just trying to find his guys and it feels like he thinks he found him, AJ, which is awesome.

2:43:15Yeah, I love his attitude. Why not us? And it is true. I give him credit actually for calling it soccer. That's not natural for him. He knows where he's at. He knows it's an American show. Let me call it soccer even though you can talk about that with the true soccer football fans. I love this guy. I know we had him on. Luna, this guy is an absolute monster. I assume he's still killing it in all these matches as well, right?

2:43:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, he just scored. This game was like two weeks ago. He had the fourth goal. We were just killing this team. Who's the favorite? Who are the couple favorites to win the World Cup? Everybody you think of is what I was told. Everybody you think of are the favorites. Spain is the top dog. Spain's like plus 400. The next teams are plus 600, plus 700. Spain or France, sorry, England. Spain, England, France, Brazil, Argentina, Germany. And then where's USA? Then you go Portugal, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium, Colombia, Uruguay, Italy, Croatia, Japan. Come on, come on. We just beat Uruguay? Japan. We're sleeping on it.

2:44:09Pat McAfee:Keep reading. We're sleeping on it. USA. What's the number? That would be 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 16th. We just fucking beat Uruguay. Isn't that the team we were just celebrating against right there? That's Uruguay? Yeah, I believe they're still ranked behind them in the official rankings. Those don't mean anything. They don't. Head-to-head doesn't mean anything for this committee. What a boot right there. The odds? That's Burl. He's the best ball striker we've ever had in the United States of America. I'm going to say. I'm going to say. As somebody that was trying to be a ball striker in soccer and spent my entire life trying to do that, which is why I kicked a soccer ball against my house so many times and how I became a football kicker.

2:44:45Pat McAfee:This dude is the most pure ball striker we got. I'm thinking he's going to score two to three free kicks during the World Cup. Two. I think he'll score two free kicks during the World Cup. If you score on a free kick, those are obviously gigantic moments. Only the goats. Like we had Clint Dempsey take a couple back in the day. He was great, great player. But all the stars of the game score on free kicks because they're pure ball strikers. So what they can do with the ball is just different. That's like the bend it with Beckham. Bend it like Beckham. Like Beckham was a pure ball striker. Cristiano Ronaldo is.

2:45:15Pat McAfee:Lionel Messi, anytime he's standing over the ball, everybody thinks it's going to be a goal. That's because they're the purest strikers. This guy's the purest we've had, I think, personally, after watching him take every set beast for us that he has over the last few years. He's fucking legit. He's very, he's real. He is, he's good. I mean, he fucking moves that thing. He fucking, he's a, he's a little bit of a weapon. What if we win? Yeah We got the best gaffer in the world What if JMU goes on the run? They will It ain't like that Fight your fucking tongue I'm just saying we gotta play the game You fucking watch it I'm just saying we gotta play the game I got a jersey, I got a USA jersey I'll be ruined This weekend, Illinois State, FCS Beat North Dakota State, they're 26 point dogs Exactly It can happen We're not Illinois State What are we talking about?

2:46:07Pat McAfee:Full-on fucking JMU. No offense, JMU. Great school, obviously. Good luck in this entire thing. Too late? We're the fucking United States of America, dude. And that's what Paunch says. Paunch is Saban. I think Illinois State was like, Paunch is Saban. Paunch is Saban. Yeah. So I hope you guys feel stupid. You think Saban's coaching at Illinois State? Yeah, fucking right. How many countries are you picking for this tournament, prick? I actually can't say. I've got to go where I was born. I've got to go here. You're a coward. You don't have to go with the one where you're born. That country is not.

2:46:40Pat McAfee:We're playing them on D-Day. Yeah, we are. Yeah. Who are you rooting for? They did some really bad things. I was born on an American soil. Army base. Never forget. H, we're playing Germany on D-Day in Chicago. That's real? June 6th in Chicago. We're playing Germany. First game of the World Cup, June 12th. So it's the last game. We're winning 15-0. They're wearing fatigues. And we fucking better. Boots only, dude. Full gear. All right, let's get to the next overreaction, shall we? Hey, thank you to Ponch for his time. Thank you to Ponch. It was awesome. Love you, Ponch. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but hear me out.

2:47:15Pat McAfee:Joe DiNardo's Doppler predicted this perfect storm. AR is going to be flashing his massive buckle all the way to our seventh Lombardi. God is great, and so is Aya. Hashtag, love you, Joe. Hashtag, miss you, Joe. Hashtag, here we go. Steelers, here we go. Talking about his massive buckle. What do you think of old buddy's take here about the Pittsburgh Steelers potentially going and getting a seventh for the good Lord Joe DiNardo? Tell you what, yesterday was one of, if not the best game, that Aaron has played all season long. So I really like the Steelers' chances if they can play a team that can't rush the passer at all.

2:47:56So, like, if we just keep playing teams with shitty D-lines, yeah, sign me up. We're in.

2:48:01Pat McAfee:Aaron went for over 200 yards for the first time since week nine 285 is what the stat I saw that's a lot of yards for an Aaron Rodgers offense normally very methodical let this thing run and then we'll take advantage of your mistakes afterwards age what did you think of the way eight played there yeah I was impressed obviously this run yeah I was watching this real time it was good to see him you know I'll run a guy to the corner and score but like so many times here like that's absolutely Aaron Rodgers right there like that's an absolute perfect ball great catch by DK. I feel like every time you look around, he's sitting there completing deep balls to DK.

2:48:33But yeah, I mean, look at how much he does have a good amount of time here in the pocket to survey the field, keep his eyes downfield. But I don't know. I feel like the Steelers have hope for sure. Why not? My skepticism is they gave up over 200 rushing again. So that's back-to-back games doing that. I don't love that.

2:48:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, Mike Tomlin, though, he's a damn good ball coach. He's going to win games and they beat the hell out of the Baltimore Ravens and uh the Ravens fans have quit on their team so that's AFC North football let's go to the next ever reaction shall we from Justin at jmanchan hashtag I don't want to ever react but good good or goodest give it a damn rest the Bears are frauds and history will tell the rest of this franchise is satisfied with having the one ring 40 years ago the team has been going down ever since if you want to be happy don't be a fan of the Chicago frauds. Doesn't believe in periods.

2:49:29Pat McAfee:Or anything like that, which I can really respect, especially because he capitalized letters to, or maybe his phone or whatever was typing for him said, hey, this is probably the start of a new fucking sentence. I'm going to capitalize this T for you. I appreciate the smartphone doing that. On that note, what did you like so much about this that made you pick this? Well, I just had to go through first and make sure that he was an actual Bears fan, and he is. But it was tough because it's weird because Bears fans have been very, very vocal, very, very chirpy every other overreaction Monday. Then they get beat and no one wants to put one out.

2:50:00Usually, when you get beat, that's the perfect time to do it because you can really go crazy. But I seriously couldn't find very – like I figured the consensus would be like, hey, we're fine. This team is the best Bears team we've had in a long time. We're going to be good. But not a lot of those out there, most of the ones I did see were negative. And it kind of was like, hey, this was our opportunity to really show that we are the kings in the north. We've been touting all year, and we got beat. So we'll see. Ty was searching for one. Did you hear him? I was.

2:50:30Pat McAfee:He wasn't letting the game come to him. He said, you know, I think there would be probably some good responses here. I figured there would be, and it's not just them, so I don't want to kind of just put this on Bears fans. This happens more than I think it should. You know, you can't come in and be talking a whole bunch of shit when your team loses or when your team wins, and then when they lose, you just go radio silent. Because, like, personally, I think that's the best time. That's when your best shit comes out. That's when you can actually kind of let loose. And, you know, we got a lot of fan bases that just don't want to do that.

2:51:00Pat McAfee:Oh, they don't want to turn their back on their teams. I kind of respect that. I don't take it that way. I think it's kind of what people are saying about Notre Dame is, oh, we got beat. I'm going to take my ball and go home and pat. And then next week when we win, I'll say, fucking Super Bowl's back on. There's a lot of that. And I just, you know, I don't think it should be that way. Was that Shane Gillis right there? No. No. Does it sound like him? Well, you're talking about Notre Dame and Super Bowl's back on. and had a little Philly John in there. I was just thinking to myself, that might have been a Shane Gill.

2:51:26Pat McAfee:I saw him doing some media after Notre Dame was coming. Oh, really? What's the deal? Talking about ACC attacking them. Yeah, right. Not happy about it. I'm excited to see the fallout of that. That ACC Notre Dame thing. Permanent damage. What does that mean? We're not getting over it, pal. That's what it means. Never. So what does that mean? We're scheduling Big Ten games? Your ACC is not going to be on fucking primetime television ever? Is that what Notre Dame said? They have an agreement with the ACC because literally everyone except for football of their sports is in the ACC. Yeah, but he's the sitting athletic director at Notre Dame.

2:52:00I don't think you're just going to say something like that flippantly. I think it is kind of like, hey, fuck the ACC. I understand we're in the ACC. Fuck the ACC.

2:52:10Pat McAfee:Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? That was some real shit. This is from Jay Baker. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But how the hell is Boward still at you? That's what I was talking about. Already. A decade of building teams that collapse under pressure. Shite stinking. Whoa, come on. It's stinking. No, I don't. It's stinking. Shite stinking is back at losing divisional games. Colts started 7-1-1, doubtably missed the playoffs. Oh, and once again, I have no idea who the QB is next year. It's tough. That's what I went through during a break. Yeah. Start that good, that's just tough.

2:52:49Yeah, you'd rather start real. Yeah, I don't know.

2:52:52Pat McAfee:Well, if you start that good, it forces you to kind of go all in, and then you lose all your future pieces. So then whenever you're staring down a future, you lose all your pieces. It's a long season. It is. It's a lot. A lot can happen. I don't think any bad decisions were made at the time in which they were made, which is why we've got to remember that in the offseason when we're talking about it. If we were to transport ourselves back in time to when decisions were made, we liked them.

2:53:21we did until we saw the details if we're being honest it was aggressive which we like you mentioned going all in two first round picks and look hindsight is 20-20 I know but it was tough but you know I feel like Chris Ballard to his credit he opened the checkbook he made the right moves he put a team together he finally found a quarterback can't control injuries worst part of football the big three they've been doing their thing and now you know we're here It started off historically great on the offensive side of the ball. Defense, we did some things. But, man, it's a tough spot. You can't control that AR gets hurt in a freak way either.

2:53:58You can't control that. Yeah, you can't control that. Courtney, you paid$60 million. Career is basically over because of the backup tight end. Declated them before the game started while they were warming up. You can't control those things. Literally. That's freak accents. You lay it out like that. It's really just bad luck. Horrible. Horrible. Put some cones up or something. Yeah.

2:54:21Pat McAfee:Okay, just walking around fields, putting on cubs. It was just free stuff. I mean, like, we've got to have a lane. Like, hey, guys, let's not. Hire a traffic cop out there. Is that what you guys did in Green Bay three and a half hours before the game started? Yeah, I never saw any cubs. I was not a real pre-pre-warm-up guy, so I'm not actually sure what happened out there. Exactly. So maybe we just fucking hold our tongues for a second if we have no idea what's going on out there. Okay? That's punter kicker paradise out there. You're right. You're right. most unprofessional pre-game warm-up routine in the history of football.

2:54:52Pat McAfee:I mean, most devastating for sure. I mean, most devastating for sure. It's certainly the most intimidating, too, if you're on the other team, know that you can get it in that pre-preseason. Holy shit. That was a huge collision. I hope he's not fucking playing today. He's not, yeah, for the rest of his career. It was a huge collision. Huge collision. Can't happen. I love that time so much. I actually had to go up the chain of command to tell them that the music that they were playing at that time in a stadium was Despicable and it should not be allowed. We're all trying to wake up. Can we play some music?

2:55:26Pat McAfee:I think they're like warming up because the doors aren't open yet So I think they're like warming up the speakers or the process or whatever So whoever's in charge of that was just fucking playing music just to play music. I was like, hey, like I actually would like like if we had good music in there is that can we do that because you guys open the doors and the first thing they're hearing is big girls don't cry i don't know if that's the right you know and also i'm trying to fucking wake up and i don't like wearing headphones because i got weird shaped ears so anytime i do the thing so we change the music brother yeah we'll play some music i'll put a list together sounds good we start turning it up out there never got anybody injured On our team.

2:56:07Pat McAfee:Mentally, we're fucking the other team. We're fucked now. It was so good. You got eight teams. You need to watch it, okay? I'm just saying, I don't want to see this guy potting when he's got two teams playing tonight. This is his, Colts. People are blaming him. Yeah. He said it's all my fault. It's all my fault. Yeah. He must be getting a lot. Like online. It could have been two people. But if it was two scrolls. Or one. I'm worried he's not built for it. He's ready. He's always prepared. He's a Colts fan. Yeah. He's an artist. Definitely built for it. Let's go to the next one, shall we? Jeez, it all ends up back at the Colts.

2:56:51Pat McAfee:F. McCoy. Hell yeah, Floyd. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Bungles are fully back. This team is an abomination to the sport we all love. Ship Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin to China. No one has it worse than Bagels fans right now. Hashtag save borrow. You knew it going into the season, though. Yeah. You know? You knew it going into the season. Ten-point lead in Buffalo should feel pretty good. But then we remember, do you guys invest in your defense at all? And is Josh Allen the MVP? Yeah. All right. So there's a chance that this is going to – This is brutal. I mean, not touched. Not touched.

2:57:28It's like an iconic – it's like one of those, especially in the snow, it's like we're going to see this played for years and years. It's one of those kind of things, I think. Especially if they go on a deep run in the playoffs. Yeah, when this happened, I'm like, oh, this is not good for the Bengals.

2:57:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Bengals, I just don't know. Save Burrow. Great play. Great play there. Unbelievable. That's great play. Great read. Great anticipation. I appreciate Chase chasing him down. He was so good until I have him. I respect the effort. I love Joe Burrow. I fucking love Joey Burrow. I just don't think anybody thinks that, boom, love that guy too. We know that. I don't think anybody thinks that the Bengals are going to win. No. They had their opportunity. We at least thought they were going to be fun to watch. It was fun. They are on offense. It was a great game to watch. Yeah, T. Higgins was balling.

2:58:10He took a big hit.

2:58:11Pat McAfee:I mean, to be clear, if they're going to be up by 10 or 14 in games and just lose every time, that is pretty exciting for a ball. So maybe we should go back to old Buddy and tell him, like, hey, dude, for the game that we love, it's not bad what you guys do. For you guys, devastating. Heartbreaking having to lead and then losing it like that. But for us, it's kind of electrifying. You guys should be on primetime more. Houston Texans need to not be on primetime strictly because their defense is too good. You guys need to be on it because your defense is not good. Think about that game where they blew the lead to the Jets.

2:58:41That was incredible. The game they blew the lead to the Bears. That was incredible. You're right. It's an incredible game. It's awesome to watch.

2:58:48Pat McAfee:You guys are must-see TV, actually. So if you could continue to do that. Now, you are going to have to sacrifice your happiness for the good of ball. And thank you for doing that, Cincy. The Patriots game was a fun watch, too. Oh, thank you for doing it, Cincy. And Joey B is must-watch. so that'll be good. They should put you guys on primetime more and on that note, when you build your team that way, I think that's what you're expecting. At least trying to sell some tickets. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from John's Antics. At mile high JB. Oh, JB, huh? Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but roll out the fucking barrel because the pack is all the way back and the bears still suck.

2:59:23Pat McAfee:Micah Parsons, a menace. Toyotathon love, nightmare fuel for 31 other teams. Bags packed because we're going to Santa Clara and bringing Lombardi home. Hashtag go, pack, go. How do you feel about old JB's thoughts, AJ? I agree with JB. I don't know how you guys feel. I'm a bit biased. I was in Green Bay for nine years. But that game, what, 415, 425 kickoff, snowy, Lambeau. You see the shots from outside, all of it. Lambeau's awesome. This was one of those games you realize how cool it would be to play in this type of game. Freezing cold game, Lambeau Field. Crowd goes crazy. Christian Watson, credit to him, man.

3:00:00This guy was awesome. But yeah, I thought, oh, this is one of those cornerstone wins, I feel like, for the Packers.

3:00:07Pat McAfee:Makes you miss the game a little bit there, huh, AJ? That's what I heard from you. Yeah, maybe, and especially the older you get, you realize, man, Lambeau Field is a special, historic place, man. It is. There's nothing else like in the world, for sure. The more you learn about it, the more you respect it. When you're playing there, I don't think you fully grasp it, because you're in the middle of it, focused. I'm a partist. Let's do that. And then as you get older, it's like, wow, the Packers, much bigger than I would ever be. Lambeau much cooler than ever and I got to be a part of that entire thing.

3:00:33Pat McAfee:And I think the quicker you realize that the more mature of a team you have. Feels like Jordan Love very much understands who he is as the Green Bay Packers quarterback. LaFleur very much understands who he is as Green Bay Packers head coach. Feels like a little bit of a mature team while still being young. Fun shit out of this Green Bay Packers squad. Yeah for sure and I think that like what Micah has been on top of you know like his play on the field is unbelievable but like the guy he's been in the locker room when that's what every Cowboys fan and everyone who didn't like him said. Like, this guy's going to be a cancer if things aren't going good.

3:01:02He's going to start bitching. And it's like he understands how cool it is that not only they paid him all that money and they kind of want him to be a face of the franchise as well, but, like, the respect he has for the fans. And also on top of it, like, it is just better when, like, this rivalry has juice and it means something because it's been going on for so long. And by and large, like, the Bears just have not threatened the Packers at all for a really long time. So, like, it's just better for the NFL as a whole when, like, this game means something. That felt like a playoff game yesterday.

3:01:32And the coaches don't like each other. I think it's a great thing that the coaches have a rivalry thing going, too. I think that's great for this rivalry.

3:01:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, I like the fact that LaFleur, the way he addressed it was, you know, it's Bears-Packers rivalry. You're going to say what you want to say. And I like that Ben Johnson immediately, as the Bears coach, took a shot at the Packers coach. It's like, they're young. They're going to be head coaches for a while, we think, at these places, even though there was no extension for Guttenkutz or Matt LaFleur for the Green Bay Packers side. Wanted to see how it all rolled out. Seems like it's going to go well. That means this rivalry is going to carry on for a long time, feels like, AJ. It has to.

3:02:06Yeah, and I think when the coaches are going, like, yeah, there should be some respectful hatred between the teams because that's how it is. I mean, it goes back so long. Like, you see right here, Doug Collins, that's the security guy right there. He's been there forever. Doug's ready to fight. Doug's ready for anything right there, I promise you. I promise you. He's not a big guy, but he'll get you for sure.

3:02:22Pat McAfee:He'll gnaw right there. He'll gnaw on Achilles if he has. Whatever it takes. I think he will do whatever it takes to protect his guy and protect the G. Protect the G. That's so cool. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? It's from WalmartWorker. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Jags are the best team in the league. T-Law has finally figured it out. Liam Cohen was the best coach and hire of the offseason. Best run defense in the league. The sorry-ass Colts will never beat us in Jacksonville again. Respect us. All right. We respect you. I mean, we respect you. Sorry. We gained some respect here, I think.

3:02:56Pat McAfee:I think, you know, they're going to have to continue to go on a run and everything like that. But Liam Cohen, and we talked about this earlier, whenever we started talking to him and learning about him once he was named the head coach, we didn't like it at all. We thought he was a dipshit. Yeah. It turns out he's a pretty big super genius. He's a really good football coach. And that team has a lot of great players, and they got an owner that is dying to win. So, I mean, you're talking about a lot of good things happening down there for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and they beat the Colts' ass at home every single year and have for a damn decade.

3:03:27Yeah, they're a damn good football team. You talked about Trevor Lawrence. That's going to be the question mark with this team going forward as long as he's there. Can he be the guy week in and week out? And we talked about the defense as well. They hadn't allowed one rusher to run for 70 yards up until Jonathan Taylor We got 74, but that's because, you know, we had Riley Leonard back there in the second half. But unbelievable turnaround on both sides of the ball. Yeah, Liam Cohen, you can't say enough about what he's done. Like, that locker room, like that shot at the locker room after the game, like that was unbelievable, him there with guys.

3:03:58Pat McAfee:Everybody bought in. Good for Jacksonville. Good for Houston. I hate it. Seems like everybody's having a good time these days. No, Titans still suck. They're so good. Good point. Hey, big win. Big win. Big win. Out of the Titans, though. But when you talk about not having a good future, it feels like, what the fuck are they? You guys happen to see the Browns' two-point play? That's just classic, though. Yeah, so fascinating because you got it all figured out in theory, right? Let's go ahead and put a wildcat in here. I haven't seen this before. Take off. Forget the pitch. And then one man left.

3:04:33Pat McAfee:Oh, shit. Yeah. The home is working. Had numbers over there. What if it gets deflected and gets caught and everything like that? Obviously, this ball is supposed to be pitched right there. That might have been a touchdown. Go back. I don't know. Who's open? Pitch right there. Pitch. Is he going to run it or throw it? Run it. Yeah, he could run it. Oh, definitely run it. Yeah, that's what that was supposed to be. That was supposed to be what that was supposed to be. A pitch for the run there. I don't know if he just decided not to. Pretty good throw by Judkins across his body all the way across the field here.

3:05:03Right here. Get that shoulders turned.

3:05:05Pat McAfee:I think he fucked up the pitch. I don't know the play. I don't know the game. but I think right there is supposed to pitch that thing. It just feels like that's probably what was supposed to happen. And then you're going to make an incredible play whenever you fucked up, right? I mean, everything in his body was going to try to get that ball back to that side. I'm not 100 % sure. I'm not 100 % sure. But that feels like that was supposed to be laid off. But we'll get more intel, I guess, as it goes on. And then Shador not being on the field for that particular play after going for 389 or whatever.

3:05:36You could argue that Stefanski is just trying to get fired. And that is kind of... You may have told Judkins, like, hey, listen, I know you're supposed to just fucking hold on to it. Hold on to it, run around, and then try to throw crossbody. Hey, if we get the two-point, that's on you. That's a great play. That's unbelievable. But we're trying to lose this fucking game. Oh, you think he's that open about it? Yeah. Just with a select few guys. Hey, I'm not going to fucking be here next year, okay? So I don't give a fuck what you do. Do whatever you want. Pitch it. Don't pitch it.

3:06:04Pat McAfee:Try to run it in. Throw it. Shador's got the most yards in the history of. He threw for 364. There it is. Ran for a tut, 29 on the ground. But, yeah, let's not have him on the play for the two-point person. If it works, though, he's a genius. But, you know, you're putting the ball in the hands of a rookie running back instead of your rookie quarterback, you know, on his best day. But, you know, that's why you get paid the big bucks. They've been – I'm not going to try to explain anything. That play looks bad. I like the Unis. The Unis are pretty – Those are the dude white ones that we did here.

3:06:36Pat McAfee:Shots of Cleveland Browns. What were they called again? Doogie. Doogie. Our guy, Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy. Oh, when the brownie came. Was that when the brownie came in with the thing? Yeah. Shador and Judy, did you see them pray after a touchdown? I thought that was a sick move. Yep. Shador's spinning it, just like we've always seen him do. And his first start a couple weeks ago, they had a lot of wildcat. In the red area. Yep. Shador was going to the sideline. They had a lot of wildcat. So whenever I look and see the two-point conversion and see him in wildcat, I don't immediately get upset about it.

3:07:07Pat McAfee:and then you see the play and then you see the stats of Shador and you see what they're doing and it's like, I don't think we're at the same spot we were whenever we were just dropping them into the game trying to figure out an offensive play, you know? And it was a conversation even then. Like, why are you, you know, taking them out every time you get in there? But they were successful. Jackins were scoring some touchdowns. And even people were kind of looking at the stats at how many times you were kind of allowing Shador to throw the ball. But he didn't play well. It was a shitty game, obviously, toilet bowl, Titans, Browns.

3:07:35But he played very, very well. We talked about how tough it is for rookie quarterbacks to get in there, you know, at any point in the season after ball has already gotten started and play well. So for him to be playing like this, it looks like from the outside looking in, we obviously can't watch practice and meetings and all that shit. But it looks like he should have been the guy from the beginning, like most people that know ball have said it from fucking day one. So shocker, surprise, we're in week 14. Now you kind of see some momentum. But now what do the Browns do going forward? I think it was a report that came out that he'll be the starter for the remainder of the season.

3:08:05But what do they do as far as draft-wise next year, quarterback? Do they go with Shadour to start? It'll be a lot of questions to answer. But, I mean, we've got faith in the Browns to make the right decision.

3:08:16Pat McAfee:Right there, by the way, is everything that we like about Shadour. He drops it in a bucket, takes a huge shot right to the face, stands in there, gets right back up. That's the quality of his game. I don't think that gets talked about enough. And, yeah, they had a full plan. Remember Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, got some snaps for the Raiders yesterday, and Dylan Gabriel, who we are, hey, we're a fan of Dylan Gabriel. Good luck to him and everything he does. Then Shador gets in there and looks like there's a little bit of electricity. Yeah. You know, it just feels like there's a little bit of electricity.

3:08:43Pat McAfee:There was a stat from Hembo about the points per game for the quarterbacks this year for the Cleveland Browns. Obviously, Shador has more points than everybody else. That's what you need to know. Shador's up here. Then Dylan. Then it's Joe Flacco. It's just, yeah, there it is. Teams points per game by Browns starting quarterback. Shador Sanders, 20.3, 18 % explosive pass percentage. One in every five is basically going. Dylan Gabriel, 17.7, 10%, 1 in 10. Joe Flacco, less than 1 in 10, 14 points per game. So, you know, exciting football is up. Points are up. Browns have something to talk about and be proud about.

3:09:17Pat McAfee:Miles Garrett's got 20 sacks. Yep, 20. And then going into next year, should Orsani start a quarterback for that team? Yes. I think so. No. What? Who's coaching? They have two first-round picks. That's a good point. So what do you think they're going to do? Trade up DeWine? They could. Windows? They could. But if the – no, actually, yeah, they're the Browns. He's going to be starting quarterback. Sorry. Forgot who we were talking about. Hold on, though. But why is that such a Browns thing? This guy actually shows some success. You'll see. Oh, the Titans are a great team. The Titans' defense is in ass all the time.

3:09:52Pat McAfee:Titans' interesting. Fascinating. In fact, Cam Ward, Shador Sanders there. Who has the better – no. Not going to get in. Who's Tennessee hiring? Who has a better future? Yeah. Cleveland, Tennessee, Cam, Shador. Shador. Just because Cleveland has been around longer? To be honest, I think he's looked better. Definitely Shador's looked good. Cam's made some sick plays, though. But once again, Coach Fyre. What do you think, Buczy? New offense. Those two? I don't know. They're in very shitty organization. So, I mean, we all know it doesn't matter. We see Sam Darnold be in a bad spot and then look good in other spots.

3:10:33Baker may feel so. It just depends on what's around it. But, you know, talent-wise, I feel like these were, you know, two of the top three quarterbacks coming into the draft. That's what most people felt coming out. But it's going to be everybody has talent, but it's going to be about, you know, what's around them.

3:10:46Pat McAfee:Cam can spin it. I'm a little bit worried about because Cam's already in a couple different offenses and everything like that. His development of becoming a timing quarterback I think is completely fucked. Like I think this year doesn't even count towards it. Because whenever he played against the Colts, it was, I mean, we're fucking balling out there. And he was. The throws. Yeah, he made his plays. Insane watching the throws that he was able to make at the age. It's like the amount of talent. But, like, an offense to win in the NFL. Boom, boom, boom, bang. Shador has that, seemingly. Shador timing and, like, running an offense, seemingly very good.

3:11:19Pat McAfee:So he has a little bit of a head start. But once again, it's Cleveland Browns or the Tennessee Titans, who you're betting on now. That's who you'd be betting on for that particular scenario, AJ. Well, yeah, if you're forced to pick one, it's tough to pick one of them.

3:11:35Pat McAfee:Emmy, give it to him. I'll take the Browns, though. I think we're all thinking the Browns, aren't we? I mean, look at their draft class. Andrew Barry, I have a lot of faith in versus, like, I mean, I think the Titans are just at the beginning of the Amy Adams Strunk curse. So, like, if you're thinking about the Browns and, you know, they have the defensive rookie of the year for sure. That's a lock. And he was the second-round pick. Harold Fennin Jr. is unbelievable. That's a great pick. Judkins, unbelievable. Chador, probably going to be at least better off. And he was going to, you know, that's a steal.

3:12:12If you're telling me a fifth-round pick throws for 364 yards, whoever the hell it is, that's a steal. And then, yeah, Mason Graham at the top. Like, I kind of do have a little faith in the Browns. Even what's the name out of Tennessee? Running back, what can I think of his name? Tony Pollard. No. Tajay Spears. Samson. Dylan. Dylan. Oh, who's also on the Browns. All right, Brownies. There's hope. Sounds like even after a loss. Oh, it's fun, too. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, we haven't seen him yet.

3:12:40Pat McAfee:Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? They lose, and we're talking like that about them. At ran by lames. Okay, this count sucks. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin should be fired after a season. Lamar should be traded to the Rams. Mark Andrews should be cut. Bateman should be cut. And Daniel Falele should be cut and charged. All the money he stole from this organization. Go Ravens. With a heart. Doesn't feel like there's a lot of love in that one at the end. No, they don't like that Falele. No. They say a lot of mean stuff about that guy. And Harbaugh and Tallman have been around a long time.

3:13:16Pat McAfee:Long time. Is it time for a new voice? Tallman just got a big time win. Why are they talking about that right now? I heard the internet saying that they just take turns beating each other to try to keep each other's jobs. Saw that. You think they agree to each other? Blowing a kiss to the haters. What are you talking about? Watch. Boom. That's actually a smack because he's sick of everybody's talk. I think you're right. Right in the mouth. Hey. Right in the mouth. I think that's what he's doing. There's a mouth right here. Hey, how you doing? Right in the face. I think you're right. That's why it's an aggressive kiss.

3:13:54Pat McAfee:Even in slow-mo, it's kind of got a little twitchy, a little boom. That's a pop right there. Quick twitch. Boom. That is great. In slow motion, it came to slow down. Bam. Bang. Right to the mouth. I can't believe the Ravens lost this game. Lamar Jackson has zero touchdowns, I think, in like four weeks or something. They had a 2 ,000 team in the building. I thought they were a little good. Ray Lewis let him out. Yeah. You got Ray running. Leave them out. The difference between those two organizations. Rex Ryan in the building. People are saying there's not a lot of difference between two organizations, actually.

3:14:22Pat McAfee:I think is what this is kind of implying. Probably about five Super Bowl difference between those two organizations. Oh! Let's go to the next one. This is from Tom's Petty. Very good point. At Tommy Hornbuckle. Okay. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Buffalo Beals are the best cold weather team left and it's cold weather o 'clock. Hey, Drake May, great job September through November. But if you're on a calendar, this month is called December and we're coming for that ass. Hashtag don't choke. Hashtag go Beals. That is something because I guess you could have that argument. We don't know what Drake May is going to be like whenever it's a negative five degrees.

3:14:58Pat McAfee:We don't know what Drake May is going to be like in the middle of a blizzard. We don't know what Drake May is going to be like because he's literally and figuratively never had to do it before. So will we know until the day comes? No. But we do know that Josh Allen is special in some terrible conditions. Now, they lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs in the middle of a snowstorm at home in Buffalo. So that has to be remembered for sure. but with Drake May I guess there's a lot that we just don't know because he hasn't done it yet right Conman yeah just playoffs in general but I mean that yesterday's game with the Bills is the whole entire thing as a Patriots fan like the Bills are never going to be out of it with Josh Allen they're always going to have a chance to win a Super Bowl and make a run now across the board are they going to have a chance I don't know they gave up 34 points uh Patriots haven't given up 20 points all season I think uh or at least since week three so it's you know a situation where You got to prove it, but it's the same thing when it comes to the whole rookie or the last year's quarterback class debate.

3:15:53You know, is Drake May, is Bo Nix, is Jaden Daniels the best, blah, blah, blah, Caleb. Right now, it has to be Jaden Daniels because he's actually won playoff games. Like, none of these other quarterbacks, Bo, Caleb, Drake, they haven't proven it on the biggest stage. So, it's tough to make any argument when you are a Drake May fan when you're talking about kind of the run. But yeah, the Bills and Josh Allen, they're always going to be a problem.

3:16:14Pat McAfee:I'm talking about that draft class. Bo Nix, how many yards and how many pass attempts did Bo Nix have? Yesterday? He had. He's 31 for 38 for 212 yards. 31 for 38, 212 yards. I mean, as an offense, you're talking about being efficient. They're getting that ball out quick, right, and moving it. It almost looked like Oregon offense. You know, it looked a little bit like Oregon offense. And with how good their defense is, they're always going to be in it as well. Yes. We're at the stage now where it's like, hey, which defense can stop the other team? Houston proved that they are going to be one of those teams.

3:16:47Pat McAfee:I think New England has proven that they can be one of those teams. I think whenever you think about Super Bowls, you have to start – that's what we've got to start viewing. And I don't like that we're at that stage already, but we are. Very cool. We're at that stage already. And just the injury portion of it. The Colts, they've been decimated by injuries over the last three, four weeks. Yeah, reality. New England, their starting left tackle, Will Campbell, starting left guard, Jared Wilson, and their highest paid player. in the history of the franchise, defensive tackle Milton Williams. Like, all three of those guys are out.

3:17:19So can you still make a run with guys who are kind of second string coming off the bench, still unbelievable players, but can you still make a run? Can the coaches change the game plan around the team that's actually out there versus not the starters? I think, you know, some teams can, and then we'll see if every team can.

3:17:36Pat McAfee:Packers, we think can. Let's just go through the teams that won yesterday. Packers, we think they can't. Their defense, okay, we'll go through the odds. Los Angeles Rams, we think their defense is good enough to win a Super Bowl. Yes. Seattle Seahawks. Yes. Green Bay. Yes. Beatles. No. Patriots. Yes. Broncos. Yes. Eagles. Yes. Nope. Sometimes. Can be. Just did it. Texans. Yes. Jags. Yes. Yep. Niners. No. No. Wasn't healthy. Detroit. No. No. Chargers. No. Okay, so that's where it stops. Is there any team in there that we don't know? With the Chargers, too, it's just, are they going to win a Super Bowl with Herbert having a broken hand?

3:18:17How he plays tonight I think will tell us a lot about that. Their defense could be good, but if he's banged up, they're fucked.

3:18:23Pat McAfee:We're talking about offense being good, obviously. Just having a matching defense that can win a Super Bowl. Looks like we got some contenders. Looks like we got some contenders. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Dustin Page. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Texans are going to the Super Bowl. Our defense is on a generational run. Stroud and the boys are finally starting to get hot, making plays when it matters. They score 20, we win. Name one team in the AFC who wants to play us. The answer is none. Amen. This is literally what we were just talking about. I agree with what you're saying.

3:18:54Pat McAfee:We're big fans of the Texans around here, and Casario should be taking a victory lap maybe, you know, for what he's been able to do. They make some interesting moves. Fire the OC whenever things are going well. Move on from Stephon Diggs. Get him out of here. Tonsil. Tonsil, see you later. We're going to take some picks back in that. They make some moves that make you wonder if they're going to be okay. He's got to be sitting there looking at his team going, I think we can play with anybody. Strictly because we can keep anybody under 14 points. And that's an absurd thing to be able to do in modern NFL.

3:19:22I mean, you can make the argument that the greatest draft in the history of football is them taking Strada at two and then trading back up at three and taking Will Anderson. Like, those two guys have completely flipped their entire franchise.

3:19:34Pat McAfee:Good for the Texans, man. Also, I mean, we talked about it a little bit during it. Their defense is unbelievable. They owe a massive amount of credit to Doug Mills. If they go one and two or don't win any of the games, then they're dead and we're not talking about any of this. He helped keep their season afloat. Good for the Texans. Not too long ago, they were the dumpster fire that we were talking about. Oh, yeah. Would you take the Browns over the Texans? Absolutely, a couple years ago. Texans were in trouble four or five years ago. Now, seemingly, potentially, on a Super Bowl run? That'd be crazy.

3:20:07Pat McAfee:Let's go to Caleb Newman. At Newman underscore Caleb. Caleb Newman was taken. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But. KC is dead. It was a great 10 years. Patrick can't throw it and catch it at the same time. Rice's hands are on probation. Kelsey's played like a shrub, not a redwood. Jones finally remembered what he was getting paid to do. Rest in peace. Chris Jones was. He was great. Problem in that game. Now, I don't think Travis Kelsey will ever be a shrub. There are a lot of memes. He's always going to be a Redwood. That's what he is. That's Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey has represented football very well.

3:20:44Pat McAfee:We got to remember that and appreciate him for that. What's his future look like? I guess that's a question mark in everybody's eyes. A lot of people talking about it, especially now, because of how the season's going. They're out of the AFC West contention and probably out of a playoff bid as a whole, which would be crazy after winning their division nine straight times.

3:21:06but what he has going on in life with everything that's possible he was already in happy gilmore

3:21:13Pat McAfee:new heights podcast number one sports podcast on earth obviously he's about to marry the most successful female on earth the most it's like there is a lot that travis kelsey is probably you know i feel like i've done my time to football you know he could potentially do that i feel like I've given back. I think he's the Walter Payton Man of the Year for the Kansas City Chiefs. It's like he's given back. He's obviously built a resume that is goat-worthy. He's won Super Bowl. He's been a part of a dynasty. And now everything outside of football is also at the point where it's like, great, not just good.

3:21:44Pat McAfee:It's like you could see how that could weigh on somebody. Now, at the end of the day, though, he is just a dude from Ohio who loves playing football, which is why we love him, which is why I think we're so supportive of everything because he is a football guy through and through and has done a great job. But his future is going to be questioned forever because of everything that we understand that is certainly available to him outside of ball, which he has earned and worked for. It's a crazy situation over there in Kansas City, AJ. Yeah, I hope he comes back next year. I want to see him play again.

3:22:12I did read where he didn't really speak to the media and he was sitting in his pads for a long time, just at his locker, I guess they said, with his head in his hands. That worries me a bit about his football future. I mean, maybe he was just thinking like, man, how do we let this slip away to where we have such a tiny chance to get to the playoffs still. I don't know. He's got to be in a weird spot right now because that's something they're not used to being almost mathematically out of it at this time of the year.

3:22:38Pat McAfee:That pick, too, obviously deflection, but he gets smacked. Absolutely smacked there. Now, everybody's talking about his late drop or whatever. It's like it was behind him, and obviously you'd like to catch that incredibly unlucky, and he gets... That hurts. The Texans, every one of their players are hitting to hurt you. He got hit by two of them at the same time. It's like very exposed. Hands up above your head. Hey, how do you not want to get hit? Just like that. That is exactly how you don't want to get hit. And then obviously it leads to a pick in game over. It's like that had to be pretty heavy for Old Trav.

3:23:10Yeah, they, you know, it's been a great run. It's not like over, over. You still got Patrick Mahomes there for another, what, five to ten years, you would expect. Andy Reid, we don't know how long he'll be there because of his age or whatnot, but But they've had an unbelievable run. If they stop right now, they've had one of the greatest dynasties we've seen. Defensively, some guys got banged up. They just had a down year. This happens on a great run as far as Kelsey. You know, close. What are you talking about? I think we looked it up. I think the only year New England didn't win 10 games was 2002.

3:23:44And that was in Brady's first year actually starting an entire season. I mean, we had this conversation last week. Like, we've been comparing the Patriots and Chiefs dynasty, and the Chiefs went to three straight Super Bowls. Patriots never did that. Patriots never won fucking six and six. I'll tell you that much. Okay? And it's cool. They won. We can act like winning nine straight division titles is sweet. No one gives a fuck, especially after it. Oh, we will.

3:24:08Pat McAfee:We'll talk about it. No, no, we won't. We'll do exactly what we've been doing. We'll compare the Super Bowls, and we'll compare the runs. Now, they had a three-year run where they went to three straight. They got fucking killed in the third straight one, but still went to three straight, and New England never did that. It's just I don't think you can ever compare the two dynasties, especially after a year later. I think you got a lot more time to go. Was that 20 years? And the Patriots had 10 years in between Super Bowls. I'm not saying that, but is Andy Reid still going to be coaching in 10 years?

3:24:38Pat McAfee:I don't know. Is Patrick Mahomes going to be playing? And will it count as the same dynasty as long as Patrick Mahomes is there, right? Yeah. He is the dynasty. That's an interesting question, though. Brady and Belichick did it just them two for 20 years. If Andy Reid leaves, is it Mahomes' dynasty or is it the Chiefs' dynasty? Definitely be the Chiefs' dynasty. But it would actually be Mahomes' dynasty. But it would be Mahomes' dynasty. Due to Mahomes' play. Yeah, is how we would have to. The only constant pillar between the Chiefs' dynasty part one and the Chiefs' dynasty part two is this guy who loves ketchup, Patrick Mahomes.

3:25:15Pat McAfee:That's probably what the conversation would be. I mean, they also – they need to fix their offensive line and they need to find a run game because if he keeps running and taking shots like he was last night especially, like, guess what? He's not playing another 10 years. Why is he – he continues to do that. He has to. Well, that's what Chris Collinsworth said. Chris Collinsworth said that he talked to him and he was like, Patrick doesn't like to run unless he's – it's a must-have or something like that. And then Collinsworth said something about, like, every game has been a playoff must-have for them basically.

3:25:42Pat McAfee:And then literally the next play, it's a 15-yard scramble right up the gut and then he gets hit again and he's down and he starts limping. Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, my God, you can't happen. He'll be back. Travis? Oh, I don't know about Travis. I saw some, you know, look, he's an older guy. He's an all-time great. Last night, you know, something you definitely look for as a defender, like a guy complaining to the refs. So, like, he was complaining to the refs a little bit. Petrie was definitely physical with him. That's kind of certain things you look at. Obviously, you know, taking hits are different, especially when it's cold.

3:26:11But Travis Kelsey is an all-time great. If he comes back, I think he'll be still a good player. And if he walks away, shit, he walked away with one of the best tight end resumes ever.

3:26:19Pat McAfee:They were announcing him dead this morning, the entire Chiefs dynasty. In case you were asleep, a dynasty crumbled. We'll talk about that on the other side. It's like, holy fuck. I mean, I guess because they're out of the AFC West title, that is a way to look at it. But Mahomes still exists. Yeah, it's not dead. But this year is dead. Wait until you see what the Poults do this offseason. That AFC is going to be tough next year. That's going to be tough. Well, that, I mean, thinking about that. Like Drake May and Bo Nix both still on rookie QB contracts. What about C.J. Stroud, though? He's got to be.

3:26:53Yeah, but they got to pay two premier positions in the same offseason, right? Will Anderson and C.J. Stroud, same draft. No, but I'm saying, like, very young, very good.

3:27:01Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, C.J. Stroud, has he gotten a new deal? No, he's still on his front, a rookie deal. Chargers next year will have both of their tackles back and a healthy Herbert and just another year of Harbaugh. The AFC is no cupcake, which is why the Chiefs dynasty thus far has been so impressive. And let's enjoy it. It feels like a lot of people were excited it's not happening anymore. That's what happens when you're at the top. Just wait. People love it. You think there will be haters or lovers of the Chiefs next year? I think as long as New England continues to win, people will love the Chiefs.

3:27:41Okay, you think the hatred for the Patriots is coming back? Yes. In the future.

3:27:44Pat McAfee:Not this year because it's young fun. No. This year it's fun. How's money? Next year if they continue to win? Dominate, not just win. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. With Vrabel, it's different. With Bill, it was because Bill wouldn't give the media anything. I don't know. I just think with the Vrabes, it's more transparent. It's just different. What? Maybe for you athletes. Yeah, but I, yeah. I think we're staring down like the Eagles hate. Like, oh, Drake May, you're so tall and cool and funny. And Mike Vrabel, you're so tough. And fuck you. Like, that's what I expect the hate to be like versus the evil empire, Belichick Brady.

3:28:22Pat McAfee:Got actual hater stuff. Yes. Got it. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? From Scott Badberg. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But. The Bucs are donezo. lost to the terrible Aints team. We have zero hope of winning an awful division and doing anything in the playoffs. Sit, bake, and plan for next year to get healthy. Hashtag we are the crew. Jeez. I'll tell you what. Did not expect to see the Saints beat the Bucs. I assume the Saints social media team could have gathered every pick in the history of mankind and nobody would have picked the Saints to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

3:28:54Pat McAfee:But I'll tell you what. Con man said he's shucking corn all damn day. He loves this guy. I mean, it was my favorite part yesterday. was watching Tyler Shuck just go fucking bananas on the Bucs. We're talking about a lot of coaches. I'm assuming the Todd Bullseed is very hot, but all of a sudden I'm kind of a believer in what the Saints are building. They play hard for them. I'm laughing, but I'm dead serious. Shuck and Olave and the Neal kid they got, who's also a rookie running back, he played unbelievable. Don't look now, but the Saints are kind of in a great spot with Kellen Moore at the helm as well.

3:29:30Pat McAfee:I think this year they were completely fucked. Salary cap-wise, picks-wise, everything. It was kind of like a punt year in Kellen Moore. There was really low expectations, almost no expectations. Players are never going to say that because they got some vets on the defensive side that don't love hearing that. But I think the reality of the situation was this ain't going to be the year for the Saints. So them getting this win against division opponent, huge, huge. And then this offseason, do they have money or picks or anything? Do we know? I think that they have their pick. They have a top-ten pick.

3:29:58And I do believe they're not completely out, but they're almost done with the cap hell they've been in for what? Eight years? Yeah, the Taysom Hill five-year,$600 million deal that they gave him if he were to play starting quarterback. But if he doesn't, it reverts back. It looks like they're 29th in cap space in 2020. Okay, so they're a tough one. But that's good for them. They've been 32 for so long.

3:30:22Pat McAfee:You're right, perspective. They pay it. Everybody that used to be on the team still. Like everybody you just thought of from the last 20 years, they're still getting paid for the Saints. Two degrees, Mike Thomas. Yep. Defense, go to defense. Demar. Lattimore. No, Marshall, I'd be getting paid by the company. I think somehow, someway, I can get the Saints owe him like$20 million. Jeez. If he would have played for the Saints at any time, they're still paying him. Yep. Because remember that fucking guy. They're still paying. Archie's coming. It's like right now they're about$9 million over the cap for 2026.

3:30:55Pat McAfee:Unbelievable. Somehow they'll figure it out. Wow. Derek Carr's getting a lot of money as well. Ryan Ramzick, Tyron Matthew. Ooh, Derek Carr. Kalen Saunders, Brandon Cooks is still getting paid. JT Gray, Isaiah Foskey, Cedric Wilson, Rasheed Shahid. He just took a kickoff to the house. That was sick. That was sick. Jay Kaner, Mataveo. Yeah. I could see Derek Carr in the blue and white next year. Derek Carr can pay a lot of money by them next year. $59.6 million cap hit next year. Oh my goodness. What? Wow. Yep. That's just 19 % of the cap. What's money? Honey Badger? $9.2 million. Ryan Ramzick, right tackle, $11.9 million.

3:31:43He retired. So Badger's retired and he's still getting the bat? It's the cap hit. It's because the contract is supposed to be.

3:31:49Pat McAfee:So I don't know if he's still getting it. He got some sort of that money at some point. That's where the cap hits. Derek Carwan is really the issue. 19.4%. And then you add in Ramzick about 4 % there. 23, add another 3. 26. You're really up against it here. Kaylin Saunders, that's 27 % of your cap is going to fight. Kelly Moe. Kelly Moe is actually paying them to coach him. Can't afford it. They are fighting for Kelly Moe though. They have not given up. So ownership and thought to themselves that this year there's not a lot of hope. And it turns out probably not next year either, but huge win.

3:32:27Pat McAfee:Hey, that's a good shucking win. Bucks had everything to play for, too. Yeah. Like, literally, like... They've been treading water for a while. Yeah. We had them. Super Bowl contenders. They started that last year, too, right? They started, what, 5-0? All of, like, walk-off field goals. Nice playboys. No, the Patriots beat the fuck out of them, actually. No, I mean, the wins. Oh, yeah, my bad. Yeah. Patriots are good football, too. Yeah, and I'm sorry. There's just a few teams that we say that about, and I sit here and, you know, whatever. But, I mean, they beat the Panthers by 35 fucking points.

3:33:04Oh. The Patriots.

3:33:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Bucs, Panthers are good football, too. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. NFC South is very much alive right now. It's a good football division. That is. All right, let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? AFC South is actually a problem. It's from Ryan Osborne, at Ryan underscore Osborne. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But? Suits are ruining college football. Hunter Urichek is dookie. The committee is dookie. The CFP system is flawed and also dookie. But guess what? We will still watch JMU go to Eugene and get violated and assaulted by a bunch of ducks. Hashtag Irish got fucked, dude.

3:33:43Pat McAfee:That's right. Yeah. And he's right. And he's 100 % right. That's going to be hard to find. I think it's on CW or something. Yeah, TNT. Get your HBO Max. It's on the same time as an NFL game. Convenient how that all worked out. JMU's game and Tulane's game going to be against NFL games, I think. One of the NFL games is Eagles-Commanders. That was going to be shitty, too. That's Zachary's injury. That was so bad. Oh, man. You were calling that dirty. That was not dirty. No. I mean, he's in the air. I don't think there's a lot of time to target. Yeah. Oh, my God. And hyperextend this guy's knee. Yeah.

3:34:17Not a lot to hit him high, either. Yeah

3:34:19Pat McAfee:I mean there is a strike zone It feels like he was At the bottom of it But If somebody in their head You would have to speak On this more It was like yeah I'm gonna fucking Take this guy's That would be a crazy Amount of decision making And a quick amount of time Bang bang Nasty though Very nasty Defense is channeling nine What do you want them to do? Well Nine did look good Slang at that thing How many yards? A lot Enough That's right How many touchdowns? A lot Three Enough How many interceptions? Zero. What is QBR? Better than 19.4 or whatever it has been all year. 129.2. Not bad. What's the max?

3:34:57Pat McAfee:16 to 23. I don't know. It has to be close. 16 to 23. 163 passing yards. Three touchdowns. Zero interceptions. 129.2. Did he? Now, do I think this graphic is one of the worst I've ever seen? Yes. Super artsy, though. Looks super cool. I remembered it all the way this morning after reading it yesterday. Because the words are very difficult to kind of read. Whenever you're making a graphic, you want fuckers to understand what's going on whenever they read it. Super artsy, which made me remember it. So maybe it's an incredible graphic. But on that note, zero interceptions right there at J.J. McCarthy.

3:35:32Pat McAfee:That's what it's all about. Yeah, didn't they just draw that together, though, in like a second before the game? Like, it'd be really cool if we could fucking pose this. But there's no way nine does this today. No. And then after the game, they're like, holy fuck, we can use this. I do think there was a chance that that interceptions number was not expected to be zero because it's prime placement right there in the front. Yeah, touchdowns usually would be above that, right? Yeah, you would want to put touchdowns in the main area, but lower right corner right next to the AWS, it's like three. Oh, yeah.

3:35:59Hey, three tuts.

3:36:01Pat McAfee:Powered by AWS. Because you look at the lower left corner, you go 163 yards. Jesus, this guy even playing? I forgot about it. And then you go 16 and 23. It's like, that's great. That's a great percentage. They're running a rock out there. They're doing well. And then you go to the bottom right, it's like three touchdowns. It's like fucking Jade's doing it. Hey, Jade's doing it. So we need that graphic to look like it's just the bottom right corner. It might zoom in. Zoom in all the way on that thing. Nine won't hand, bro. Justin Jefferson, postgame, awesome. Did we have a postgame locker room with nine?

3:36:27I want to see him. Yeah, nine was a little more reserved. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. He knew. He learned. I feel bad for the guy. I do too. Because that has gone on a generational run.

3:36:37Pat McAfee:But also, it maybe helped him. Yeah. Maybe it's helped him realize. Okay. Like Bruce Arian said, I don't need fucking nine. I need a fucking quarterback. So why don't you change your nickname to AP, Accurate Passer? B.A. wasn't the only one saying that. Everybody was like, hey, we don't need you doing the shit. You're a quarterback in the NFL. But on that note, we all knew that Jage, from everything we've heard about him, his moxie, his leadership, everything like that, he would become the best version of himself. Feels like he's becoming that. And three tuts of show. Justin Jefferson talking about not getting the ball a lot.

3:37:09Pat McAfee:He said, I'd rather we win and not get the ball than lose and not get the ball. Love that. You know, when we're losing and I'm not getting the ball, it's hard for me to sleep in them. You know, when we're winning and I'm not getting the ball, I'm like, okay, we're winning games, let's keep it moving. But when we're ass and we're choosing not to give me the ball, maybe I can help some things. When we're winning, I got nothing to say. I like that out of Justin. I love it out of Justin Jefferson. I like even more out of JJ. I mean, everywhere – you know, these people can't stay off social media. Everywhere he looked, he had to see that meme on every quarterback that sucked that week or that day.

3:37:43Everybody's talking shit about him. So for him to bounce back, I got a ton of respect for him to show up and show out like he did against, obviously, a gritty commander squad. Yeah, I have seen – But it's the NFL. It's the NFL. I have seen the edit on all of the Chargers alignment. So something to think about for tonight just because I know Chargers fans are not happy with what they're doing in front of Justin Herbert. So just as far as picks go –

3:38:09Pat McAfee:Who did I take? You took charge. That's why I'm just throwing out. I'll take the Eagles. I haven't seen the Eagles. I'll take the Eagles. Generational run you're talking about? I just heard about that. Yeah. I mean, I saw the edit done to my homes last night. So it's still cool. Nobody is. He's got legs. Nobody's safe. He does have legs. You guys said Lamar. I saw Lamar. I was like 8-9. Yeah. You know, they're starting to. They did it to Lamar. I mean, that's my biggest fear every Sunday. Like, God, please don't have the edit come from my quarterback. Well, at least you know who your quarterback is.

3:38:42Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're nice to any other. Hard times, brother. He'll be back. Mm-hmm. When? Achilles factor. Six to nine months. 2027? What team? Might not even be a line. Who's ever been back in six months? Six to nine. Running back. Ayers. Or Akers. Cam Akers. Cam Akers, yeah. Oh. Williams. Karen Williams. He's so good. We talked about Akers. What's the name of the big day yesterday, too? Kyron Williams is so good. Yeah, Blake Corum at 120. Yeah, they were just walking right down the fucking field. And then Matt Stafford missed that first drive.

3:39:19Pat McAfee:They just did whatever the fuck they wanted. And Matt missed a couple, and then they kicked the field goal. And I'm like, well, it feels like they can do whatever the fuck they want to do here. And then they did. They continued to do that. Puka Nakua goes crazy. Oh, yeah. Him and Devontae, it was the first miss I ever seen from Stafford and Devontae on their little cool thing. It was all jacked up first drive. NFC West. Robbery. Jacoby. They suck. Michael Wilson's a hell of a receiver. Yes, he is. 18, 19, 20 perceptions with Jacoby. But they stink. Blow that whole fucking thing up. Maybe Kyler comes to Indianapolis.

3:39:57Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.