PMS 2.0 1468 - Watt Wednesday, Vince Wilfork, Jake Paul, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

20:54Niners obviously favored over the Titans there, especially at home. But whenever you – 13 and a half? Yeah, biggest of a weekend of big spreads. Houston is playing Arizona. Uh-huh. Good football, too. Without both starting tackles. For Arizona? Yep. What? This is Arizona color commentator, AQ Shipley, with some information that you as a national potential gambler, if you do have a gambling problem, we would like you to get help for that, obviously. But this is somebody that maybe has some information early in the week that we don't all have. Both tackles out for the Arizona Cardinals, and they're playing the number one defense that has the Houston Sac station.

21:30If you're just looking ahead at a game that, like, you would think biggest spread of the weekend, you would think it would be that one. Colts, Seahawks is the biggest. They have no respect for Phil Ritter. Yeah, but Jacoby has played football this century. Well, five years, century. More decade. Decade. Okay, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, time is something, and time is what we're all battling against. And we're going to see if time had troubled Phil Rivers. Or did time make Phil Rivers better? And maybe Phil Rivers finds himself in the Hall of Fame. He might be fast as shit now. I don't know. Who says he doesn't have a 10-yard burst that we've never seen?

22:15Maybe he has one of them trailers that Matthew Stafford was going in. Maybe he's been in one of those trailers. No, I feel like I'm making that shit. What's that? He's old school. Living in Alabama? You think that's – Yeah, I mean, last time – I would say Birmingham, Alabama has advanced minutes in technology. Remember, that's where Dr. Andrews is located. Last time we had him on the show, I think he had like AOL for internet. You know, he had pretty much dial-up. So I don't know if he's getting the immortal chamber. but he could. He might have that thing parked right outside his backyard. Phil Rivers at his press conference was asked about his current weight and his response was, I'm not sure what it was when I walked off field in Buffalo, but I ain't ran away from anybody anyway.

22:55Who cares if I look like a blimp, boys? It ain't about that. It ain't about that. What is he doing? He looks like a tackle. He looks like an offensive tackle. That's good because remember when Ben Roethlisberger kind of grew into that shape as well, he was impossible to takedown that's right and that is you know phil rivers already has the double ankles taped exactly i mean we should definitely be wearing all black but i love the way he looks and uh it's great and we love you we love you man go get him phil uh let's talk about some other news around the football he looks great to be fair the last time we saw on the field i know it was five years ago.

23:38He was still spinning it. So it's not like we, you know, the last time we saw him. Five years, yeah. We've seen some quarterbacks at the end look absolutely terrible. Playoffs, right? Yeah. Almost beat the Bills. He is the best. He is by far the best quarterback that we have had since the whole thing happened. Since the graphic. Yeah, that graphic that they put together. Colts, VZ, and that was rude to put, great graphic, rude to put that together. Since Andrew Luck's retirement, all the quarterbacks that we have tried and given a go and paid. I mean, there's multiple$20 million quarterbacks in there that we've tried to kind of like replace in there.

24:14Phillip Rivers was by far the best one we had. No, sorry, Danny Dimes was the best guy that we absolutely had. Phil Rivers before that got us to the playoffs, was not able to run. I mean, he was not able to run. He was Carson Wentz with two sprains all the time. I mean, it was peg-legging that entire thing. But just his competitive spirit, his ability to understand what's going on, and spinning it. He was always spinning and felt like he was always helping his teammates, talking shit for his teammates, setting things up. It's like you get a guy back in the room. I think that's good news. And we're pulling for him.

24:45All right, let's go to college football. Congrats. Matt Campbell is your guys' coach. That's a big deal. Wow. Yes. Matt Campbell is head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions. AQ, obviously you're a member of the Penn State Nittany Lion cult. This would have been a good hire, I think, immediately out the jump. If you guys move on from James Franklin and announce that you're hiring Matt Campbell out of Iowa State, I think ball knowers that know Matt Campbell would say, that's a great hire. We don't know how the hell you got Matt Campbell out of Iowa State. NFL had been trying to poach Matt Campbell for years, allegedly.

25:14Other teams have been trying to poach Matt Campbell for years. I think once Matt Campbell maybe learned of some of the opportunity that was available, maybe it was a decision like, yeah, I should go try what Penn State has. It was very emotional. Iowa State was very cool on the way out, very thankful for it. It felt like it was a celebration of Matt Campbell going over there. How do you feel at this hiring? Now, I will say, I can't believe it happened for you guys. I thought you guys were in some deep, deep, deep shit whenever it was all happening. But this feels like a massive smashing success of a hire for you guys, especially with the culture you're trying to have.

25:47Yeah, I thought this was a home run. And I thought just watching everybody talk about him, all of the media, everybody thought this was a home run hire. I think it's the best fit, all of the things. And I think he nailed his press conference. He showed emotion. He showed humility. He was humble. And he kind of gave props and thanks to the history while also acknowledging the future. I think he's been fantastic from the minute he took over. And they did a great thing in keeping Terry Smith. So I think they hit a home run on all levels. And it was getting bad. It was getting ugly. There was leaked audio, which I don't like.

26:20I don't like that at all. I felt weird listening to it, but I certainly did, you know, because he was out there so he had to know what was being said. That felt like a weird thing. It felt like there was attack from within, too, on the entire process. Oh, yeah. Big time. Obviously, the leaked audio was somebody in a room. Didn't feel like there was a lot of people in that room. No. From the way it sounded, it didn't feel like there was a lot of people in that room. I wonder if Pat Kraft, who was the one speaking in that audio, could put himself back in that room and go, well, wait a minute. There was three people.

26:47Only three of them. I think we could probably figure out who that is. But that was an attack from within. And then there was donors that were unhappy with the situation. It felt like it was getting loud. To get Matt Campbell and kind of quiet it all, great hire, I think, personally, for you guys. Good luck to Penn State. Let's talk about good for Oklahoma. The university just canceling all the shit. Awesome. We're in the playoffs. We've got a home game. Don't come to class. We're not expecting it. Your professors don't want to come to class. None of us want to do this. So let's celebrate the hell out of ball.

27:14Let's head over to Hammer. Done. Done. I love the message coming out of Oklahoma. Boomer Sooner World, Tone Diggs. Yeah, I do too. This is awesome. This is, you know, schools have done this in the past, but just to see this happen again is something that needs to happen so that the students can get, I assume, the football team wanted this, The coaches wanted this. Everybody wanted this so the students can get lubed up all day long and be loud and full-throat for the game on Friday night because it's a big one. They won down in Alabama, but they got dominated as far as yards. Alabama had 200 more yards than Oklahoma when they played Bama.

27:45Oklahoma had a pick six and a huge punt return that kind of flipped that game. A lot of turnovers from Ty Simpson in that game with that really, really good Oklahoma defense. So this one, it's a one-point spread. Some places have it Oklahoma favored by one. Some people have it Alabama favored by one or one and a half. But most of the money lines are minus 110, minus 110. This is by far the closest spread of the first round. And a lot of people are thinking it could be the closest game as well. Yeah, and then obviously next day, got Miami and Texas A &M. Tulane, Ole Miss, JMU, Oregon. Now, watch out.

28:17What, who? Oregon better watch out. Yeah, those Ducks better watch out. What's that? Everybody. Feels like the only dog that can win. JMU? Might be JMU this weekend. JMU travels well. Next weekend, excuse me. Oregon's got their coordinators taking head coaching jobs other places. Are they even focused, a lot of people are asking. Oh, is Oregon going to think that JMU is just going to waltz? Remember, JMU, a lot of wins this year. Oh, yeah. One loss, JMU, a lot of wins this year. They're a winning program. A lot of people think Oregon's just going to kill them. And maybe Oregon thinks that. Is that what you guys are thinking?

28:48Well, I don't know. Rumor has it, too, that Bob Chesney, head coach of JMU, said, hey, if we win this game, I'm not going to UCLA. I'm staying here. Is that – where did you hear that from? It's been floating around Twitter. We've leaked a little bit. Somebody's going to put that out as if we actually mean that. No, I saw that on Twitter. Thank you. I also saw on X that Dante Moore is already thinking, so how does draft prep work? You think he's not focused on JMU? I mean, his OC ain't. Where's his OC? Okay, so you guys are. Kentucky. I didn't know we were doing all this. Trap game. They're 20 and a half point.

29:20That's not good. That's not good. Just like Seattle. Is Oregon about to get? Yeah. No, they are. Yeah. You know that 2020 Super Bowl team I was on? Yeah. Three JMU offensive linemen on that team. What? I didn't know they had NFLers. Earl Watford, Aaron Stinney, Josh Wells, all offensive linemen. They're going to win in the trenches. Don't sleep on JMU. I got a staff for you, okay? Yes. Tell them, Tone. There's four teams where the offense and defense is both ranked in the top ten. That's Indiana. That's Texas Tech. That's Oregon. And that's JMU. Wait a minute. Boom. Number one team in the country.

29:57Where did all their players come from? Last year. And where did their culture get set from? Yeah. JMU, I guess. You're right. Okay, all right. I understand what we're saying. Oregon is different this year for them, though, right? Yeah, because they're hanging out as focused. All right, let's move along. That's crazy to think. Because if Tulane wins or JMU wins. Well, Tulane's not with it. Okay, there you have it. So it's all on JMU. Ole Miss is going to win by 50. But JMU. JMU's the only one that's got a chance for that big of an upset. Tulane's, I don't love Tulane's head coach saying, I got two phones, two jobs, two hours of sleep.

30:35You're going into the playoffs. We don't need to see the split hat with Florida and Tulane. You just can't do that. The split tarp is sick. Yeah, I don't think people are very happy that his team's in there either. So him saying, yeah, you're not – think about me. I could be doing a lot more shit. But on that note, congrats to him on getting a job with Florida and getting Tulane into the dance. A lot of people attacking Notre Dame and, you know, Miami and Alabama and everything. Tulane and JMU are in the college football playoff. And I don't want to stick up for ESPN because everybody understands that I've gone to war with ESPN publicly multiple times throughout a lot of different years and a lot of different events.

31:10But everybody that say all ESPN cares about is ratings and money, you don't think they would have called and said, hey, we're changing the top five champions thing. We're not having two of these teams in this 12-team playoff, right? I thought about that last night. I'm like, why didn't they? We could have got Notre Dame. they could have said we could only get one group of five. There could have been some clause that they could have added in there, and the only people that would have been pissed were the small school that was going to get fucked this particular year. So two group of five schools in there, Notre Dame out.

31:37I don't know if money was the decision. I don't know if money was the decision, and I don't know if necessarily the TV network was in control of it completely. You're saying they wouldn't have rather had Notre Dame versus Ole Miss or Notre Dame versus Oregon than who those teams are playing right now? I just don't think so. I mean, there's some people in positions that we don't think they make a lot of good decisions. In some places. Okay? We've seen them all. It is crazy when you get a peek behind a curtain, too, in a lot of places. I'm not saying just one place. I'm talking a lot of places. You get a peek behind a curtain, somebody's making a decision, you go, how the fuck is that?

32:13That's the thing, making the decision? Then you look at it. This is inspirational. if that thing can get to that position. Anybody can do anything. Why are they holding their breath? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a five-time All-Pro. A man who played 13 seasons in the NFL. Beloved, I believe, by literally everybody. Fresh off a USO holiday tour where he went to five countries in the Middle East in seven days to say thanks to the troops. Living legend, two-time Super Bowl champion, Vince Wilford. Yeah, Vince! How are you, man? What's going on, everyone? dude thank you for joining us thank you for going on that uso tour i had the opportunity to do that uh i forget what year it was we went over to japan the uso people are fantastic spectacular how was your trip and uh what's your big takeaway from it vince you know this is my third this is my third year doing it um and this year was absolutely amazing again you just understand how much our service members and their family sacrifice and just a little bit of our time during this holiday season, just to bring them a little joy and a little smile, it means a lot to them.

33:20We all represent very, very well as America in these different countries. So to be able to get guys out there like myself, Jeff Ross, the Roastmaster, Ernest, and Cody Ladon, and Mia Jackson, a comedian. We just brought all these cheers and joy for the holiday season. It's always It's a touching time of the year for me just giving back and just showing them how much love and support we have for them. Because these guys are deployed and, you know, away from families and all that stuff. So, you know, they do the dirty work and they make their sacrifices daily for us to have the life that we have.

34:02And the least we can do is just give our time back to them. So, you know, we're not all military, but at the same time, we can all support. and I think during the holiday season, right after Thanksgiving, heading into Christmas, being able just to be with our service members, man, it's just a joy and it's just so much excitement when they see us and they smile and sometimes, you know, we heard a lot like, man, you know, these higher-ups telling them, like, we haven't seen you smile in months, you know, and all of a sudden they laugh and smile and have a good time with us and that's what the USO is all about, just giving our time and just understanding they're not alone and we're here to back them and support them.

34:38You're a good man, Vince. Thank you to the truth. Thank you the truth. But you're a good man for doing that, Vince. Obviously, you don't have to do that. You know, like the people that do charity and give back, everybody's like, well, that's what you're supposed to do. Well, yes, I think that is what you're supposed to do, but not a lot of people do that. Signing up to leave your family and friends during a time in which it's very vital to be around family and friends to spend time with heroes that can't be with family and friends is a very cool thing, Vince. We appreciate the hell out of you doing that.

35:02I was following along with Ernest. You know, the Real Records, Big Loud Boys were posting a lot. Saw you in helicopters. I saw Jeffrey Ross doing some magical stuff. Cody was obviously cooking out there. I love following along with what you guys did, and we can't thank you enough for doing that. Now, on that note, a lot of ball-knowers in those military trips. A lot of ball-knowers, a lot of opinions, a lot of ideas, a lot of football fans. Who do you think is in the best position around the NFL right now if you were to compare your two teams, the Houston Texans or the New England Patriots? And then we can also add in the Indianapolis Colts because we just signed Phillip Rivers, Vince.

35:39Yeah. Yeah, Vince. Yeah, Vince. You guys are in some shit now, brother. But on that note, your two teams, the Patriots and the Texans, seemingly very, very good. How much have you been paying attention and what are kind of your thoughts on both the squads? Well, I pay attention. I pay attention. I think both of these organizations and teams has got something to prove. I think what Mike is doing in New England is amazing. and get the team and rather the troops back and get us back on track. But, you know, to me, the scary team is Houston, you know, because if Houston is – if they could just figure out their offense, they're going to be a problem.

36:15They got one of the top defense, if not the top defense in the game, and we all know defense winning Super Bowls. And they have it. You know, if they just get it together offensively, I think that's a scary, scary team to see in the postseason. And I remember in 07, when I was going to play in a New York Giants team, that was, I think they made a playoff 9-7, was a wild card, and they went on to win the Super Bowl. But they peaked at the right moment, and I can see that happening with Houston. If they get offensively, if they get it going, I think this team can be very, very scary. So I'm pretty excited for both organizations.

36:52I played for both of them, amazing organizations, great fan base. and you know this time of the year you have to play your best so we're going to see what's going to happen but I'm sitting pretty good in good shape with two of my former teams in the race and in the hunt with Houston being in the hunt so I'm just looking forward to the rest of the season I like that you have two teams that are winning because Houston Texans organization for a little bit there you know they look like ass ass cheeks and then the Patriots the Patriots had a couple years there where it's like wait wait wait are the Patriots about to be ass cheeks and then lo and behold two organizations that have good people in powerful positions, turn it around and make them great.

37:31Now, on that note, speaking of being great for a long time, we have diehard Patriots fan, Boston Connor, who is very eager to speak with you, Vin. Yeah, Vin, thank you for your service, first of all. I mean, I think across the board, you're one of everybody's favorite players just in the history of football, but in New England, you are especially beloved. I mean, every single year you're on that D-line, which is kind of something that the team and fans could hang their hat on. And speaking of the D-line, the Patriots paid Milton Williams, the D-tackle from Philadelphia, over$100 million. I mean, he's the highest-paid player in the history of the Patriots, and he plays on the D-line.

38:07The Texans, their highest-paid player is Daniil Hunter, also on the D-line. Can you just talk about the importance of having that kind of top-tier, dominant defensive line and why that leads to so much success, not just as a team, but a defense as a whole? And just your thoughts around D 'Amico and Mike Vrabel being kind of defensive head coaches, especially in today's NFL where everybody seems to be trying to get the newest, you know, brightest offensive head coach. Well, I think it starts up front. You know, I'm a big believer. You have to start in the trenches offensive and defensive line if you want to be successful playing the ball with football.

38:45I don't care what level you're at because, you know, we've seen a couple years ago Cincinnati, you know, had a shot at the end of the game, but they couldn't get the ball to a wide open Jamar Chase with Ramsey falling on the ground because Sam was in there. Aaron Donald was in his face being sacked. So, you know, and I think I posted then I'm like, everybody want to talk about these elite skill positions. But if you can't get the ball to him, it doesn't matter. So I'm a big believer in going up front, fixing the offense, defense, align and building your roster around that. You have great success in this league.

39:17And with, you know, with D 'Amico and Mike, two defensive-minded coaches, you know they're going to play some good football. You know, they've been doing an amazing job. So, D 'Amico, you know, the couple years he's been a head coach, man, his defense has been on fire. And Mike, you know, I played with Mike. I played for Mike when I was in Houston and everything. So, I know defensively they understand what it takes to get there, right? And I think the biggest, that's for me, if I'm building a roster, that's the first place I would attack because without those guys up front, you know, it really doesn't matter.

39:51And plus, they're game setters. You know, they set the tone in games. You know, if you can have a defensive offensive line, can run the football, can be able to stop the runner and rush the passer, you know, get guys in third and long, you're going to have some good success. So I think both teams, they have what it takes defensively on that front and offensive line. That's the key. You know, can you block? Can you hold up? Can you defend the run? when you have to defend the run, even though this league now is a more passing league. But in the day, you're going to have to run the ball at some point.

40:22Can you get those yards? If it's fourth and one, can you get that one yard? When you talk about it all year in training camp and leading the season, it's going to come down to a play sooner or later where you have to be able to stop the run and make a play. Can you gain that inch? Can you gain that one or two yards and fourth down? Now, defensively, can you hold and be sufficient on those plays? So I think both of these teams has it up front, and that's why it's going to be some fun football. And we're just talking about these two teams, but we have other teams in the league that has pretty good offense and defensive lines too.

40:59So I'm a huge, huge believer with the front offense and defensive line. I'm going to always spend my money there. If I'm a GM or a head coach, I want to make sure we have playmakers at those positions, guys that can change the game. Build from the inside out. I think we believe in that as well. We actually have a segment every single week where we go in the trenches and we rank the top five offensive lines each single week, and that has basically told us which teams are going to win the Super Bowl. If you can block and you can stop people from killing your quarterback, you're going to win the Super Bowl.

41:33The defensive line, though, if you look at the Philadelphia Eagles and the teams that made it last year, The D-line having four ones, basically, seemingly is the new game. So the trench is more important than it has been, I think, in like the last 10 years nowadays. On that note, a man who battled in the trenches with you has a question. Yeah, Vince, my name is A.Q. Shipley. I played 12 years as a center in the league. Went against you twice. Once in New England, once in Houston. I'm sure you remember. Because those weeks, yeah, night sweats, night hair, all the things. I think we actually have a clip.

42:06We might have a clip of how hard I made. And then all of a sudden you pressed the shit out of me. So that was really cool. So that was really cool. But I just want to know at what age you realized that you were bigger, stronger, and more athletic than every single person on planet Earth. I think in high school I understood. You know what I'm saying? As a freshman in high school, I was 275 pounds, you know, as a freshman. And then my junior year, I mean my sophomore year, I was 300 pounds. So I did moving from defensive end to defensive tackle. So I knew then, you know, I was pretty gifted when it came to my size, my speed, my football IQ.

42:46I learned a lot of football, especially going to UM and then getting a chance to play for Bill Belichick. I learned a lot of football there. So I think in the league, it took me four years. And a lot of people don't understand. I had to learn how to play nose tackle because I was a defensive tackle my whole career. So defensive tackle and nose tackle are two different positions. So I had to learn the game of nose tackling. And it took me four years when I realized how to play that position. And I was real comfortable at that position. I think in year four, that's when my career really took off because I kind of understood how to play that position.

43:20So, you know, I've always known since high school, like this is what I was destined to do. This is my gift. how can I be the best I possibly can be and just put the work in and just learn the game itself from the inside out you know understand offensive formations and and blitz and coverages the rotation if we check what we're going to do it was a lot that came with it but I put the time in just to understand all those things and it worked out well for me a lot of highlights against Colts here don't love that obviously got a chance to witness it in real time you talked about going to Miami and obviously playing great ball.

43:56You were a part of something special down there and we're in a special time of season. Go ahead, D-Bud. Yeah, first and foremost, great to see you, Big V. Can't wait to catch up with you, man, down in the crib. But, as a BCS national champion, what's your thoughts on the new format with the college football playoffs, now at 12 teams with their shot to shine? Maybe going to 16 soon, who knows? Hey, Miami got in! Stop shaking your head! Stop shaking your head, please! I think we need to go back to the 14 model, even back to the old school BCS model and figure out who can play for the national championship.

44:25But what's your thoughts on that? And kind of remind us of kind of who are some of those other players on that defense with you on the national championship team. You know, right now college football is way different. I mean, it's a lot of football being played. I mean, you know, you're looking at teams now playing 14 games or whatever it may be. You're basically playing an NFL season now in college. You know, you're talking about these kids that are still developing and still learning the game. So I'm not a huge fan of it. But, hey, it is what it is. Who cares what I think? We care, Vince. No, that's why we asked.

44:57That's why we asked. You know, it's always going to be a problem, right? Because, you know, you have some conferences are better. You know, some don't have enough talent, enough people in their conference, and they go out and be undefeated in the first question they ask, but you didn't play nobody. And I always tell people, hey, we played in the Big East when I played, you know, and we went on and we did what we had to do. And, you know, history just itself, you know, with guys, you know, Jonathan Dillman, DJ Williams, you know, Ed Reed. You talk about Mike Rump. You talk about a roster full of, you know, Andre Johnson offensively.

45:31Clinton Porters. Willis McGahee. So it goes on and on. Sean Taylor, you know. So it goes on and on and on. And we was in the Big East. And it's just a tough situation to be in. You're going to always be wrong. So I'm a big believer in you don't leave it up to the committee. simple as that you don't leave it up to the committee because whatever the committee come back with hey it is what it is if you just take care of business you don't have to worry about that so i see both sides of it um i'm a huge fan of hey take care of business win the games you're supposed to win and you know with the whole notre dame situation we know head to head it is what it is you know we beat you it is what it is so um it's just tough you know it's just tough and somebody going to always be upset every year.

46:18I don't care if we have 20 teams. It's going to be that 21st team saying, hey, we should have been in. So it doesn't matter. You can't please everyone. So you just got to do the best you can. But as a team, you have to understand, don't leave it in anyone else's hands. You have to take care of your own business, win the games you're supposed to win. If you do that, you won't have no word. But if you get to the point where you drop in a game, you drop in two games, and all of a sudden it's in the committed end. You can't do anything but sit back and just let it happen, whatever it may be. He was speaking directly to Notre Dame right there.

46:50Yeah, that is it. Yep, yep, yep. That's what we're speaking. Yep, absolutely. I'm speaking to Notre Dame. I can already hear Marcus Freeman, though. That's the entire offseason. That's the entire. We're not leaving it to anybody's hands. Like, that is the. That's probably their drive, their motivation. I think they've got a good team next year. Good team. He's still there. Who? Marcus Freeman. What do you think's going to happen? He should be there. He should be. He's the current odds-on favorite to be the next head football coach in the New York Giants. What? What? Yeah. Wow, okay. Vincent's all in.

47:19I mean, if he's leaving that program to go to the pro, I get it. But as far as being fired and stuff like that, I don't think – I think he's doing an amazing job at Notre Dame. I mean, he's doing an amazing job there. So, it is what it is. But if he's taking – if he's jumping ship and heading to the NFL, you know, good for him. And congratulations if that's what it is. but I think he's a heck of a coach. I think he rallied the troops, you know, taking those two losses back to back early in the season, one against us and then right after us. He rallied the troops. The team got behind him. He got behind the team.

47:52They put their head down. They put their foot in the ground, and they just went on the rampage with winning, winning, winning, winning. So that's the size of a good football team. So I think, you know, at the end of the day, like I said, when you leave it up to the committee. Once again, let me get back. Notre Dame fans. is the way it's gone. Let's talk about no committee. Let's talk about the way the NFL is run. There's some teams, you know, that could go on a magical run. We just signed Phil Rivers, 44-year-old grandpa. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Vince, you are also 44 years old. What? And I'm sure you remember back in 2011, you picked off a Phil Rivers pass, so, you know, he can still do it.

48:33The question is, can you still do it? If D 'Amico Ryan or Mike Vrabel calls you, let's say week 18, and they say, hey, Vince, we need you. Listen, we need you to come back in maybe for one or two games to help us win a Super Bowl. I know you've already won two, but, yeah, we need five snaps. We need five snaps out of you. And they might be the most crucial five snaps of the game. Force and goal lines. You know what it is. You know what we're doing here, Vince. Is there any way you would entertain that? Absolutely. I mean, my mind, I'm like, yeah, I can do it. I can still play at the level I played at my mind, but my body tells me something different.

49:17So I'm just being honest with you. But, you know, I spent 13 years in the game, and I enjoyed every minute of it. And it was time for me to walk away. So I sit happily retired home and just living life. so I would not entertain it. But my heart, in my heart, yes, I'm playing every Sunday in my heart. Are you still swimming? Yeah, I'm still swimming. I still swim. I thought that was genius. Hard knocks, maybe before hard knocks I'd heard it, that instead of running in the offseason, you started swimming because of your joints, and then you felt like you actually got in better shape because of that and made your game better.

49:56Is that true? Yes, yes. I used to swim. Once I got a year round, year six or seven, I, you know, got introduced to swimming. And when I tell you, it changed my game big time. So I didn't never, after that, my conditioning was swimming. You know, I would walk and swim. You know, that was my regimen. It worked for me. And that was the best shape I've been in, you know, on my career when I introduced that swimming. So, yeah, I'm a big, big fan of swimming. That swim cardio is different. It's all worse. Where you're working every muscle in your body. Absolutely. Every muscle in your body, you're working.

50:32And you die. It was good for me. How's the golf game right now? What's the handicap at? I'm sitting there by eight, but I haven't played in a while. But, yeah, I'm sitting there by eight still. Okay. Played probably like two months ago and shot at 84. So I got to get back on the league. I'm looking forward to it. What did you do? You were a shot put? What was he? I think that I put in a shot put. Yeah. Do you have a jumper? I played all of that. Yeah, I have a J. How much did you weigh? How much did you weigh? 275, 300 pounds. How about when you were playing? When I was playing, what was my weight when I was playing?

51:12Yeah. I started the season. I would be anywhere from 325 to 335 beginning and towards the end of the year. I would pick up more weight. It was strategic for me. But I tell you what, I never missed a weigh-in. I tell you that because I knew when weigh-in days was on that Thursday. I would be ready to weigh in. But I told Bill all the time, hey, Bill, if you catch me two hours after this weigh-in, you might be shocked. So don't even try to pull it. It's like a boxer. It's like a boxer weighing in for a fight. Hey, Q was doing it. Hey, that's a trenches move. This guy was drinking. What's that shit?

51:47Magnesium citrate. It was basically a laxative. Yep, you've done it. I've been there, done it. Yep. Trust me, man. I've been there. I've tried everything up in front of the sun legally. But, man, I've been there. And it was like being a boxer, you know. I take it off and put it back on. I have a couple days before game day, and I'll be ready game day and then do it all again, you know, the following week. So it was a fine time, but at the same time, put a lot of strain on your body. You live and you learn, you know. But you have to do what you got to do, especially when it's$800 a pound. So, yeah, you do what you have to do to save them the coins.

52:23So I did that. Smart. You're a genius, seemingly an incredible guy. Shout out to you for this USO tour for the third straight year doing it during the holiday season with the big loud boys and everybody and Jeffrey Ross. And shout out to you for what you did for football. We appreciate your contributions to sport, man. Thank you for everything. I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me on. You have a great holiday. Are you still on the grill at all? Come on, man. That's all I do. I am the grill. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Vince Will Fork. Yeah, man. I am the grill. We need another foreman.

52:57Thank you, Vince. It's a little fork. Yeah, it feels like that's that. That's a lot of work for somebody. Good luck out there. Somebody go do that. He is the girl. You already have the ad. Before we get out of here, we have four minutes. Let's go through AQ's big takeaways from this past NFL weekend, shall we? AQ has three things that are his big takeaways that need to be chatted about a little bit more. First one from the weekend that was Retro Rogers. That's right. He turned back the clock this week. He was vintage Aaron Rogers. Let's take a look at the very first throw he threw in this game.

53:28Let's drop Back to pass. Fake play action. Yep, let's just send this thing as far as we can throw it. Perfect ball to DK down the sideline. First throw of the game. Now let's go back to what he used to do, right? He used to run around. He used to do all this stuff and show his athleticism. Right here. Sit in the pocket. Yep, first of all, look at the protection by the O-line. Great. All the time in the world. Broken play. Move to the left. Let's sidearm this bitch to DK. Wow. Another big play. And then this one. This is old school Aaron. Again, off his back foot. Little fade away. Three-step drop.

53:58As we get this snap, just sit there. Yep, let's just heave this thing. Back foot, fade away. Perfect ball over the outside shoulder. Also had a rushing touchdown, obviously. Did the discount double check all over the place. Had the day in a game that I think Steelers fans are pumped about. Let's go to Hammer. Time. Tone, is that Retro Rogers about to be the Rogers that we see for the foreseeable future? I hope so, because that was awesome. And that was kind of the Aaron that we were seeing at the beginning of the year. And then there was that lull during the middle. and hopefully this brings them into the rest of the year.

54:27But yeah, that was his best game of the year. And it didn't help. Like you saw the protection there. The Ravens only have 19 sacks, I think, on the season. They are not very good at getting to the quarterback. Like if Rodgers is going to have time, he's going to be able to make those throws. So hopefully that's what we get. Next Gen Stats says Aaron Rodgers completed all three deep passes, 20-plus yards for 121 yards against the Ravens in week 14 with all three going to DK. So had three deep passes, completed all of them. Only took three shots. He had just seven deep completions on the season entering week 14.

54:57They hadn't been very explosive. Maybe that'll add to it. DK Metcalf, awesome to watch. Him playing Gunnar, once again, will never say another thing about DK Metcalf. What's the second takeaway from you, AQ? Love conquers all. Sorry, AQ. I'm going to say that. No, I love it. No, he's fantastic. And this is why I wanted to showcase him, obviously for Ty, but because he was that good against the Blitz. Cover zero numerous times in this game. Let's take a look at this. Boom. He gets cover zero, slides left, moves up in the pocket and just slings this thing down the field to Melton for the touchdown.

55:29I mean, he shows this all season long. This one is incredible. Again, blitz. Notice how many people are up at the line of scrimmage. He's checking. He's recognizing. He's getting the blitz all figured out, getting the line in the right spot. We snap this thing. The guy off the edge pushes his DN. Look at that one. If we can rewind that one more time, look at the way he throws this. I mean, he's literally just sitting back there. Watch this. off back foot, right leg, just throws it to a spot to Watson. Unbelievable. Those used to be the scary throws. Yeah. Those were the ones that were turnovers.

55:59Correct. Now they're becoming completions because he knows what the defense is doing. Yeah, and that's just like part of his game now. You're right. It used to be like you'd see him throw off that back foot. He'd be like, oh, Jesus Christ, here we go. Now it's like, okay, he's got something. Let's go to the last takeaway here. AQ Shipley, Love Conquers All, and Puka Power. This guy was unbelievable. Had a front row seat for this. This is incredible. Watch this. This was the first big completion from Stafford. Just pluck this thing. Look at the hands on him. He's so strong with his hands. Here's another one.

56:26A dig from the other side. He's down here on the right in the slot. He's going to come up. Stafford throws this ball in between three defenders over top of the linebacker. One-handed catch there. Again, another one here. This is at the end. This is a two-minute drill. Seven route. Need a play. Need a chunk. Yep. Go to Puka. And then this last one. Watch this double move up top real quick. Boom, boom, boom. Oh! There it is. Puka power How good is that? That's Puka power baby We had Retro Rogers We had Love Conquers All We got Puka power And we got our two On the other side Be a friend Tell a friend something nice It might change their life Take three Three

57:08football is the greatest god bless your soul at the toxic table at boston connor and at ty schmidt nine-year nfl vet darius j butler is here 12-year nfl vet super bowl champion aq shipley is here and joining us live from hammer dad dad is ap tone tone how are the gamblers doing okay how are we doing as we sit here staring down the most meaningful football of the year how are the gamblers against these sports books who have all the ais at their disposal where we only have our brains and our hearts and our feelings and our minds and our projections of things that can never be as accurate as Joe DiNardo on a Doppler, but our hopes for how a game is going to come.

57:45How are the fans doing against these greedy sportsbooks who seemingly always have it right? Yeah, if we remember going back to the start of the season with the NFL, it was, you know, where teams were getting 60 % or more of the bets. It was like on a trend of 1-4, 0-5, 1-4. And in the middle of the season, you know, things got better. Didn't have any winning weeks, but there was four and sixes, stuff like that. There has been one winning week this year where teams getting 60 % or more of the bets where the Gamblers have had a winning record. That's crazy. One. That's not good. All it takes is one.

58:23I mean, that's not – I'm sure people are hitting touchdown parlays and stuff like that, but we're just going strictly off of game lines. That's where we're sitting at. Yeah, and there's parlays hitting all the time. Those things are certainly – They always hit. That's what they say. The more parlays you do, the better chance you have a winner. That's not real. Nope. Thank you. That is, thank you for that. That was us checking ourselves immediately in the middle of something. Just like what you said earlier. I heard if they win, the coach ain't leaving. It's like, that's not real. We need to make sure people know that's not real.

58:51And what he said, not real either. A lot of that's going to take place. But to your point, there is some fairytale belief that parlays hit all the time. And when you hit one like once every three weeks, you think to yourself, yeah, that's why I do it. Got him. I'm a genius. And then all the other times, you're always just one away. It seems like you're always just one catch maybe away, one yard away sometimes. Maybe just one leg for 250 ,000 people to all hit a same-game parlay. That would have been legendary. Do you remember when that was, A.Q. Shipley? I do not. Well, we had that for a Super Bowl.

59:26It was our last public parlay that we put out, actually. Yeah. So many people. What was the miss? Patrick Mahomes over 225 yards passing or something. And what did he throw, for 223? 215 or something. He had like 150 in the first half, too. Yeah, that one we were not worried about. Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown in the first quarter. That one was over. I think Mahomes had to score a touchdown, too, maybe. McCaffrey, I think. Yeah, somebody else. We had a couple touchdowns and then Mahomes for the thing. It was plus, I forget what the bet was, but 250 ,000 people riding with us. Definitely the biggest bet, group bet of all time.

59:58And we hit the first two in like the first quarter. And I was like, now we just need Pat to just be a quarterback in the NFL and win a Super Bowl. and somehow it didn't hit. It's like, that's when I started worrying. It was the Chiefs-Eagles and it was because Tony. Remember Tony had that – it was like the last drive. Here we go. Yeah, we didn't have enough to get yards. And then Tony brought the ball back all the way to like the 15. Yeah, it was a huge – that's exactly – it was a heartbreaker. And then they run corndog through the whole thing. Yeah, so his return basically eliminated us from winning it.

1:00:30And we were watching live. Remember, it was streaming it live. We were watching it. Everybody was in an immediately upon and not hitting when you're in the give out public parlay game. Man, people get really mad that they put their money on your parlay, even if you were that close and it should have hit. So we got 200 and some thousand people on the bet. Maybe 100 ,000 of them let us know that we're the worst humans. It's a lot of fun. So that's why whenever Tony starts saying this is a good thing, we got to tell you it's not. And don't we're not telling you to do anything. Joining us now is a man who loves giving out picks, though.

1:00:56He's seen a board, actually. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's a Ryder Cup winner. He's a father of 10. Happy holidays to all of them. AJ Hawk. Yeah, Hawk girl. Merry Christmas. Yes, Merry Christmas. Are you guys, you're backpedaling on your Phillip Rivers situation, even though I was very positive yesterday? I guess you were too. You were positive, but some guys in there are backpedaling? Thank you, AJ, for helping me see the light. I appreciate your positivity. Needed it. So, were you backpedaling? DB's very good backpedalers. Now, I watched a video of Coach Saban saying that the backpedal is the least important part of being a corner.

1:01:35Yeah, I saw that, too. I didn't see that. Yeah, I was saying it, too. He was talking about he had a corner that could. Like quarter turn. Yeah, he had a quarter turn the whole time. He said, so I used to think that the backpedal was the most important part. I used to coach it. And I had a guy that just only could do the quarter turn, and he was the best. He worked out, all right? So let's not just automatically rule people out, basically, because they can't do that. I think that was kind of the message. And, oh, yeah, on that note, congratulations, Coach Saban, officially going into the Hall of Fame last night.

1:02:02Obviously, it's been an absolute honor to get to know him, become friends with him, and listen to him speak, and learn about how he views different things, situations. It's very obvious why he is a GOAT. It is very obvious that he has that you know, they talk about Mamba mentality or how MJ is, or how these people that are at the top, and how they activate. He has all of that, but also he's evolved because he's had to teach others and it's a very fast he's a fascinating individual. He is so incredibly supremely talented at what he does while also still remaining relatable somehow and also having interests of things that other people find relatable.

1:02:36All these athletes get in these super crazy diets and they almost become these like superhero robots where you can't even touch them. Tiger Woods becomes this like machine basically. Kobe Bryant, rest in peace, known be a machine. Michael Jordan is the entire thing. Nick Saban is like a guy you can go talk to and he is going to be able to give advice and information to everybody somehow. He is special. This guy's special. Congratulations to him going into the Hall of Fame. It was in Las Vegas yesterday. I was going to try my best to get out there. That's a long-ass flight because it wasn't only Coach Saban.

1:03:04Former teammate of mine as well, Steve Slayton goes in. West Virginia, he goes in to the Hall of Fame. I like seeing Steve Slayton get his flowers because of how special he was at West Virginia. And that came from a guy that played at UConn at the same exact time as us in the Big East. And this dude was supposed to go to Maryland. He committed to Maryland. He was out of Philadelphia area. He was supposed to go to Maryland. They pull the scholarship from him. West Virginia, Rich Rodriguez basically just gets in there like a week before and says, hey, we'll give you the ball. We'll give you the ball.

1:03:32He comes in, obviously highly touted. This guy's special. He's going to be good. One of the chillest, coolest dudes of all time. Got along with everybody. And whenever he started running, he was unstoppable. And he had vision. He had cutback. He had explosion. And he was the dog. I mean, workouts, everything. He was Steve Slayton and Pat White. I got to ride their coattails to a lot of very cool moments. And obviously, we won a bunch of games. We didn't win the biggest game in college football, but we did win a bunch of games. We changed the trajectory of West Virginia. And I keep saying we. It was really they, those two.

1:04:07Actually, those three right there is Owen Schmidt kind of pound somebody. And then we had Darius Renaud at wide receiver as well. And we had studs on the defense. And we had some offensive linemen that ended up going to the NFL. But it's like we had a great team. It was an honor to be a part of. and Steve Slayton and Pat White were the ones that put the West Virginia Mountaineers onto the current map that they're on. They would play, what's the video game you guys would play? NCAA 2K15. Okay, so, but it would have been earlier than 15 for sure. Yeah, because I graduated high school in 05. 07 then.

1:04:36Yeah, so probably the 07 one. Pat and Steve were unstoppable in NCAA 2K or whatever. So people talk about that as something like that's fun for gamers. It also made the West Virginia logo and brand very, very, very, very, very popular. Then we were playing on Thursday Night Football on ESPN, the West Virginia University scenes. We probably played UConn on one of those games. We were like the Thursday night team. That was before the NFL was playing. So we had plaques on the wall in our facility that was like, most watched Thursday night game ever with this amount of people watching. Most watched Thursday night game ever.

1:05:09And obviously that might not sound like something to a team that's big in the SEC or big in the Big Ten or the Notre Dame squad that's had their own TV network since the beginning of time, which is such an advantage. But for, like, West Virginia, us being crowned as, like, the must-watch teams in the middle of the week whenever people had nothing else to do was huge for our program. And a lot of the reason why people were electrified by our team is because that dude would be running wide-ass open down the field multiple times alongside Pat White and an offense that was electric. So I'm happy he's getting his flowers.

1:05:40I'm hoping that he's getting a chance to really take it all in. He's a super humble dude. doesn't really like to do the whole song and dance of being celebrated. So I'm happy he was there last night. I'm happy he got a chance to be celebrated. And congrats to them both. But UConn, we saw you on a couple Thursday nights. You saw Steve a couple times, I would say, as well. Yeah, Steve was special. Obviously, Pat White was special. But they kind of revolutionized and changed college football, like that offense. Obviously, the video game was one thing. But to see that, it was almost as different as seeing like a triple option.

1:06:12but it was just two guys and sometimes like you said Owen Schmidt back there who was athletic too so when he got the ball in space he was also a problem but at that point you know Big East was you know we had some good teams at Rutgers we were doing well Cincinnati was doing well Brian Kelly there South Florida everybody kind of had their run. Shady was at Pitt Shady was at Pitt yeah we had guys all over the place but you guys were definitely at the top and even you know you always root on your conference when at that point you go to a big BCS game and it's like alright go and kick Georgia or whoever's ass and let them know it's not just it's not sweet out here.

1:06:41So shout out to Slayton. Shout out to Pat White. They were a special, special group. So glad he's getting his flowers. Yeah, shout out to them, man. Thank you. I had a lot of fun because of you guys. A lot of too much fun probably. You guys saw it and were a part of some of it so you might be partially to blame. But on that note, thank you guys. And congrats to both those guys going into the Hall of Fame and everybody else that went into the Hall of Fame. Joining us now is a guy that'll go into all the Hall of Fames. Probably a broadcasting one or two. And I'll tell you what, maybe even a statistical one as well.

1:07:08Maybe. because he's not scared to use the numbers while also using the brain capacity of a man who is a multiple-time defensive player of the year. A man who comes from a family that has just only created stallions, his son being one of them. Last week or the week before, his boy was just roaming wild on a beach while he continued to talk ball to us. This guy is a legend. Ladies and gentlemen, long hair-having, handsome face, 6 '10", monster of a man, J.J. Watt joins us. Yeah, J.J. Watt! how you doing jage i'm great i'm happy to be here so excited wednesday beautiful day lots to discuss just fantastic you got a backwards cap on something's in your cup don't know what excited to find out two rings one gold watch what a life so first of all i know hair tie in a ring rubber ring rubber ring because jimmy fallon did that to his finger yeah almost took his finger off yeah whatever they said jimmy fallon got all boozed up but this is what the report was i'm not saying this is what happened i would like that to be very clear this is how i have learned of the story that happened okay edge of his marvel kitchen island he took a fall and it almost ripped his finger yeah and i watched jimmy fallon and i remember his fingers just being different massive cast on for a while and he came back and i think was ugly and it was like all right so if i ever get married i'm not doing that there's no way so i got that bad boy and then hair tie for my daughter thanks hope you feel great about it okay i love having And my daughter with me every single moment of my life.

1:08:37As I work hard for my family, knowing that I can just do this right here. Oh, and then my daughter and my wife right there on my heart at all times. And then you lift this thing up and it's like, boom, there's a tattoo. That's of my daughter, too, you know, of her birthday. So anytime I'm feeling alone in this long, long, long life that I'm living right now, I just think about my daughter and my wife. So anything you say, oh, there's a team you bought trying to turn into a profit on your forehead. Is that what you want me to say, buddy? Is that what you want me to start pointing out on that note?

1:09:07I don't know what happened here. I got like a spot of oil or something there. Who is that? It really bothered me. Is that Espanol or Burnley? Espanol, senor. Paunch's team. Hey, we talked to Paunch the other day. English, okay, it's tough to understand a little bit of it, most of it. But he loves America. Yeah. And he is a great... I didn't even know who you were talking about because of how you pronounced that name. His name's Paunch, Coach Paunch. We were talking about the U.S. men's national team, former Espanol player. You know, he played for your program before you bought that. Yeah, I'm well aware.

1:09:40I didn't know there was an N in there. I was unaware of the N. Let's call his punch. Yeah, his friends call him punch. I guess that kind of. Yeah, and to be clear, he might have been correcting us and we couldn't understand what he was saying. No, no. But know that we are big Espanol fans because Espanol created punch. Punch is going to coach the U.S. national team to a World Cup gold champion. Yeah. yep trophy super trophy what is the trophy called gums the world cup of course it's not even a cup of course of course of course that's the best point yet you all the world's sitting inside of a cup i think on the trophy so do we pick up the world then or do we do i thought it was hands holding a holding the world yeah it's not a cup why why actually this is one of your smartest things i've ever heard you say connor yeah let's dive into this can we get a photograph yeah and There has to be a name to this thing.

1:10:32There has to be a name. The balloon door. No, that's not. The Golden Globes is what they should call it. It's just called the World Cup. Well, the Golden Globes are actually out. I can't drink out of that. Are cups different languages, different things? I thought a cup had to be able to be drank. Is there like a tiny bowl on top of it? It could be sitting in it just permanently. It could be a cup. They're not calling the trophy a cup. It's the World Cup, comma, trophy. What? so it doesn't even have a title? But then what does the cup mean? Like the Stanley Cup is a cup. Yes. She called it the Pochettino.

1:11:10That's what I'm saying. That's what we're talking about with this guy who played for Espanol and kind of cut his teeth at Espanol. Such a cool trophy, though. I mean, that is a badass trophy. Yeah, it's very – how much is this one worth? Multiple millions, I think. No, that's Club World Cup. This is international. No, how much is that trophy worth? Oh, great question. I think they spend a couple million. It says 20 million on the internet. Yeah. Damn. That's ridiculous. It's solid 18-karat gold. Yeah. From my recollection, because remember, we always get into, like, what's the best trophy in sports.

1:11:37That always happens in the offseason. And we talk about Lord Stanley. We talk about the Bjorn Varner, the Indy 500. Obviously, Lombardi gets talked about because it's the biggest league on earth. And then the soccer people all come in, and they're like, this isn't even a question. This is the best trophy there is. It's like, I don't know. Stanley Cup could kind of just sit right on top of that thing. 20 million inside of the thing, like one of those little toys. Oh, yeah. Oh, the Russian dolls. Yeah, like the Russian dolls. But I understand when the U.S. gets this, we will like it. Yeah. Hasn't really been a reality.

1:12:08MLS Cup's pretty sick, too. The original trophy used to be an actual cup. I just looked up. And then who? Somebody got a hold of it? Yeah. You know, some bureaucrats got involved in 1974. They said, we need to redo this, and then they turned it into that one. I don't like that. Let's talk about football. We have – and I think the reason why you came in in the jolly mood that you were in is because we signed 44-year-old quarterback Phillip Rivers. Now, we saw some footage yesterday of Phillip Rivers playing for the Indianapolis Colts, and you were playing for the Houston Texans in that particular footage.

1:12:40I saw that. Yeah, that was quite a really... I shocked myself. Shocked myself. Me too. You're on the screen, and I was like, JJ's not on that team. He had to have been on the Arizona Cardinals by this time. Nope, you were still on the Houston Texans when Phil Rivers was spinning it for the Indianapolis Colts. I'd like to remind everybody, Phil Rivers led the Colts to the playoffs. He was the best quarterback that we had had post-Andrew Luck, and then obviously Danny Dimes has surpassed him. His high school team that he coached with his son Gunnar ran the same exact offense. That's J.J. Watts' piece of information to it.

1:13:10So, J.J., it sounded like what you were saying, and I might be wrong here because I don't know if this is how you can feel about this Indianapolis Colts team. I feel like you like the signing. I feel like you like that Phillip Rivers is the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis football Colts. Is that accurate or what? I mean, I'm a football fan. This is awesome. As long as everything goes smoothly and there's no injuries or anything that come out of it. I mean, from a pure content standpoint, from a pure enjoyment, entertainment standpoint, this is phenomenal. And now, thank you for pointing out my Big J journalism here.

1:13:47Thank you. The fact that, I mean, it literally basically seems like it came down to the fact that they need a quarterback to play this Sunday because it appears that Riley Leonard may be hurt and not able to go. So they need somebody that knows the offense and can execute it. And he is literally the person that knows the offense best. And we're going to find out if he can execute it. He just said it himself in his press conference. He's like, the only way you know is when you walk through that door. So let's see. And I think that's such an awesome mindset and mentality. Now, if you're sitting there as the Colts and you're trying to capitalize on a season that started 7-1 and had unbelievably high hopes, is this where you want him to be at this moment?

1:14:32No. But if everything was going awry anyway, this has got to be the hands-down most fun you could have at this point. I'm about sick of the most fun thing, okay? Yeah, content, entertainment. Yeah, you hear this like, is this WWE, this guy? What do you think Chris Ballard's doing? Hey, we need a good tweet. We need a good meme. We need to draw a little bit of juice to this Colts team. Is that what you think is happening here? It's a lot. No, I think they legitimately believe that this is their best chance to win this weekend. I don't deny that, that that's what they believe this is right now. I'm just saying for the rest of us out here in the world, this is fun.

1:15:09Yeah, so you keep saying they, and we're talking about you. You've caught a lot of the Colts games this year. You were just off the Jags game. That was tough. That was tough for us. They're different positions. If I went out there today, because this isn't something he's been preparing for all year. Like, maybe I will, maybe I won't. Dude's been out for five years, and this just happened this weekend. Like, this just happened on Sunday. Both guys went down. So he has known maybe for three days that he might play football for the first time in five plus years. So, like, if you ask me today, and I train very regularly.

1:15:45but if I had to go over to the Texans facility and like put on my, my uniform, I, there's a bunch of different muscles that could go out at any moment at that. Just cause I haven't fully prepared. Now you take me two or three more years down the road. I got no idea what's going to happen. Thank God. Quarterbacks can just stand in the pocket and sling it. I believe his arm is probably great, but what's it going to be like in that pocket against the Seahawks defense? Just short sharks, circling, circling. I don't know if you like what's going to happen. It sounds like you think there's potential problems ahead.

1:16:20And there's a lot of those. This could be awesome. Yes, it could. Yes, it could. Yeah, James. What's the best case scenario, James? What do you think best case scenario is? Maybe on the flip side, what's the worst case scenario as well? Can you figure that out? Best case scenario is Phillip Rivers is so damn smart that he drove that van from wherever he lives up to Indianapolis for the trial with the TV screen in the back. and he was studying Mike McDonald's film and Seahawks film the entire drive. He got there and he talked to Shane Steichen and he said, hey, this is how we're going to attack them.

1:16:52I know exactly where their blitzes are coming from. I know exactly what stunts they're running. Don't worry about my age or my speed because I'm not going to get hit. The ball is going to be out of my hand before they even know what they're running on their own defense. I'm going to slice them and dice them, get the ball in Pittman's hands. I'm going to chuck that ball up to Alec Pierce. Oh, I got this weapon, Tyler Warren. Yeah, let me get it to him. Oh, I haven't even mentioned the number one rusher in the NFL. yet, Jonathan Taylor. Let me hand it to him a few times. I won't get hit when I hand it to him.

1:17:18Boom, boom. I got 350 yards. Jonathan Taylor has 150 yards. We got five touchdowns win. Oh, yes! Take me there! Geez! Now you want the worst case? No! No! Do the other one!

1:17:35What's the other side? We're, you know, like political. Yeah, keep it football-wise, but don't, you know, because that van crashing on the drive up. That would be the worst case scenario. We're talking football-wise. What would be the worst-case scenario, please? I mean, football-wise, it's just Daniel Jones' play happens again. No, we don't need that. Yeah, put to both legs. See, Connor led the show saying there's a chance that one hit, both knees, both shoulders, you know, at 44 years old. Come on. Five years removed. He said there's a chance. He gets sawed in half. And Phillip Rivers knows that.

1:18:08Oh, yeah. He's still around the pads popping. He might wear a guardian cap. He's the best he's looked in five years. He needs to. He needs to. No chance. He just had another kid. He's got a grandbaby. Wear a guardian cap. Protect that brain. He better, bro. There's going to be a lot of, you know. There needs to be some Vegas odds. Will he have a neoprene sleeve anywhere on his body? Will there be neoprene? Copper foot. He's going to use a roll of tape. Copper foot. Each ankle will have a roll of tape. I assume there will be copper foot here, here. The gloves here, baby. Probably the neck. The Brett Favre one.

1:18:42Yeah, the fingerless gloves. He uses, I saw those at CVS the other day, I almost pulled the trigger. Just because it was the whole day, somebody gets getting this for, but maybe do that, by the way. But whole roll of tape, each ankle. I mean, he has a cast on both of his feet whenever he goes out there. That's what I realized five years ago when he was playing for us. Like, he comes out there, there's not even a thought of those things, any of this. An ankle weight. So then whenever he starts moving, he's skiing, okay? We are going straight this way. So there's potential, a lot of awkward falls.

1:19:13I'm thinking he should put that guardian cap on. I think so. He's tall, too. There's a chance he's setting a precedent here. If he goes out there and balls out, do you know how many retired guys are going to be talking to their significant other? Like, man, I've always thought I could, but I wasn't sure. He just did it. I'm going back. I'm going back. Here's Phil Rivers' quote. He had a press conference today. I'm reading this for the first time. Shout out to Fox 59. I'm not here to save the year and be a hero, by the means. Yes, you are. We got to stink and run the crap out of the football. and play defense.

1:19:43Oh, geez. That's all a ploy. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's Phil Rivers. Phil Rivers knows it. Him and Shane said, we're throwing this thing 40 times. Yeah. So he's letting Seattle know, we're going to run this ball. That's a daggone ball. And then McDonald's like, he wouldn't tell us what they're going to do, right? And then Phil Rivers is going to be sitting at six yards. Lift that leg up. That's right. And then he's 45 times. Oh, boy. That extra yard. Game change. i'm getting more worried as we're talking about worried did you hear what jade said i was living in that world we can live in that world that is possible jade you didn't just make that up that is an actual thing that could happen what you just said i mean you guys have like the i mean this is all we'll talk real now like daniel jones ran that offense in a way where shane steichen dialed everything up and it was a progression offense where daniel jones came out of the huddle knew where the progressions were one two three and where the ball had to go and if one was covered he moved to two like it is set up for somebody to step in and as long as they know and understand the concepts and can deliver the football you can do it relatively safely back there now did it operate a ton better when Daniel Jones could move and threaten the defense with his legs and have the RPO game absolutely but it is not unrealistic for somebody to stand back there and deliver it they have weapons and they have a good offensive line.

1:21:06They have not been good the last month. It's just a fact. But they can dial it up. Just get it in your playmaker's hands. Give it to Jonathan Taylor. Get it to Tyler Warren on these little tight end screens or these little flat routes. Get it to Pittman at the sticks, downs at the sticks, and then toss it deep to block up and toss it deep to Pierce. We're winning football games. And right now, I want to let you know, because this has happened, maybe not so much recently, but Colts fans do travel. I mean, that is something that Colts fans are known for. Maybe we go take over Seattle Seahawks Stadium.

1:21:39You know, maybe the Colts just go take over. They're not selling their tickets for their Super Bowl contending team. Are you crazy? Well, if they are, you can get them a SeatGeek for$30 less than what they're actually priced at. Good deal. You can use code PATMACPIE and get$30 off at SeatGeek. It doesn't matter if you're a return customer or a first-time buyer. Shout out to SeatGeek, the greatest ticket-buying platform on planet Earth and the boom. Maybe Colts fans should think about trying to go travel up there and make sure it's a little bit more copacetic for Phillip Rivers' return. Make sure it's quiet in there when he's on the field because I have a funny feeling that Seattle Seahawks fans are going to try to be mean to Phillip Rivers.

1:22:16He wants that. You think he doesn't want to try with them? First drive of Phillip Rivers' tenure on Sunday. How many yards does it gain and how many points does it gain? First place play action. Does it get points? Does his first drive get points? Absolutely not. Seven. I thought you were stopping at absolutely there, and he finished it off with a nod. I'm worried about what we're going to experience. Go deep first play. Go deep first play. So excited. Look, he's taking a knee. Look how nimble he looks. Listen, look at him. Boom. Put your other leg up, please. Yep, no problem. Super flexible still.

1:22:49He was on his other knee before this video at the beginning. He was on his other knee. Shout out to James Boyd. We appreciate the local coverage of the Indianapolis Colts. On the beat. Also, morning show host here in town. I think they wake up at like 3 a.m. to do a morning sports show here in Indianapolis. I love the grind. I appreciate the hell out of him. James gets a lot of stuff and talks a lot about the cold. But look, he's on the opposite knee there. Yeah, but watch his hip flexibility. That toe drags on the ground. That toe drags on the ground. He's warming up. On purpose. That was on purpose.

1:23:17No braces. No braces. Body feels good. No tape. And also, he doesn't look like a fat ass like everybody was kind of saying. He doesn't look like a fat ass. everybody was kind of saying that phil rivers he's been retired for five years we've been watching him coach football and eat pizza he's a fat ass he's not a fat ass phil rivers said i don't care what my weight is i'm never be able to run away from anybody anyway and that's a real answer that's what he actually said dadgummit so i mean this is a good look at phil rivers i'm happy i gotta ask some i gotta ask some honest questions here if you're another quarterback in that room or you're one of those two guys warming up next to him how are you not looking at yourself like, man.

1:23:59A first ballot Hall of Famer is here? Yeah, I need to start learning from this guy. I couldn't even get a shot. I mean, where's Andrew Luck at? He's letting Indy down again. Where's Andrew Luck at? That's what I want to know. He's trying to save Stanford right now. Guess what? The season's over. Alright, let's talk about, we saw Andrew Luck giving a sideline interview during a game, and he had to step away because there was a pick six. Ball! Ball! Go, J.D., go, J.D. And then he comes back. I just love him. I'm so happy for those guys. How do you feel about the Herbert situation with Laura? Obviously, we're all fans of Laura Rutledge.

1:24:35We appreciate the coverage. We understand that doing TV involves a lot of moments of asking for people's time in which they don't necessarily want to give it. It is kind of a part of the gig on the opposite end of it, especially for the quarterback from the winning team. How do you feel about that whole interaction, and how do you feel about where we are right now between media and players? I think this is the first time that we've seen any kind of situation at all. I mean, players being very open right before games, immediately right after half. It feels like there's been more access, more transparency, more combos, which is what everybody wants.

1:25:07This feels like the first one in a long time. What are your thoughts on it? I agree with you. There is significantly more than ever has been, obviously, with the pregame hits and in the pads interviews and all these things. I think a lot of times, I think there are more times that that may happen that you may not see, just because generally you don't throw down to that interview until it's secured and ready to roll. But I do think that when you're the face of a franchise, you're getting paid an unbelievable amount of money. There is that expectation of that. Now, can it be handled a lot differently in situations where the PR team, like there's generally a way that things go after the game where you know how that's going to go so it is it is unfortunate just kind of how it all went down and how it looks i think i asked devin washburn our sideline reporter who i think does a fantastic job his take and it was we we just talked through it all and i think i understand both sides of the situation here but i do think at the end of the day like you have to we're this is an entertainment business we make so much money because we are in entertainment and like you do the interview i do think he did he ended up doing the interview we don't want to be like people that are out of touch with being players and me saying that with you two on the screen saying i'm a player is absurd but like i never want to say something in here that players in the locker room will say this dude forgets what it was like this guy you know because that's like the worst thing that can be said about somebody i think that gets on tv but i think even everybody kind of understands like starting quarterback face the franchise and you say like i forget the way you describe but it's almost like a responsibility like i think it's like a game day responsibility now at this stage of it all i don't know if it's like actually written into the contract so i didn't necessarily love the optics of it but i also didn't appreciate that herbert probably in a lot of pain for sure played not great yeah even whenever they win he didn't even smile one time like i think he was pretty miserable that entire time so it's like do we judge justin herbert completely off of one situation i don't think so because a lot of people call him like bad it's like i don't think i don't think herbert has proven to be that guy at all his teammates say they love him and everything like that but i do think that situation wasn't good for herbert yeah i don't think it was but it was a win though isn't in a different time sorry in a different where if it's a loss and you duck the media i think that's one thing where that's a responsibility if you lose and you're the face of a franchise i think you should at least have to you should speak to him but after a win i feel like it's a little different.

1:27:32Justin Herbert just, he's not about all the garbage. He's not about on field after a loss. They wouldn't, but I'm saying when guys duck them from the locker room and they leave early, I think that's a responsibility that, hey, I can face it in a bad game, a loss that we, you know, it sucks talking to me after that. So maybe because I fall asleep, so I apologize, and I catch it the day after and I don't stick around for afterwards much. That's on me. Hand up. Who normally gets interviewed on the field after games? Coach, winning coach, winning like MVP, right? Isn't that kind of normally the thing, especially the primetime games.

1:28:03Not one o 'clock games is not happening, but primetime games. Thursday night, there's like three people that kind of go up afterwards. It's kind of just assumed that it's happening. For Monday Night Football, is it just assumed after the game that this is happening? Laura very much... Laura was told that he is definitely doing this. By multiple people, we would assume, right? As we watch this whole thing, Jake, you're in it a little bit more than me. That's where the assumptions can get. In a normal... The way things ideally go, the PR person for the team grabs the player and says, ushers them over and says, hey, we've got the Monday Night Football postgame interview here.

1:28:39Puts them with the reporter. You say, hey, they say, hey, and then they get the camera sent down to you guys and you're good to go. That's generally how these things go. That assumption, I mean, we didn't see all that in this situation. So I don't know. And it is different if you're just being tapped on the shoulder by somebody. Like in a postgame, you're looking for your teammates, you're celebrating from your teammates. Like I will have his back on that. Like there are 1 ,000 people on the field. There are photographers. There are camera guys. There are security people. There are people from the other teams.

1:29:11So people tapping you on the shoulder, you never know. It's not like he turned around and immediately was like, oh, this is the Monday night football postgame interview, which is why I have to put that caveat, because generally it's your team's PR person. That's kind of your point, Todd. Yeah, I kind of thought that he didn't immediately know it was Laura Rutledge, and he thought it was just maybe someone saying, like, hey, can we talk to you real quick? Because, like you said, he did end up doing the interview, and I think the other thing, too, is like, not that he's always like this surly prick, but we've seen the way he is with the media, kind of doing the coy, like flipping cameras.

1:29:42Like, he doesn't like dealing with the media. He doesn't like doing that. He hates it. You know, and he ended up doing it, and I also didn't know because it seemed like Like, maybe they have been doing this on Monday night, but it seemed like they almost panicked in response to that because then Lisa Salter had an interview with Tony Jefferson, like, immediately after. It was almost like, hey, that didn't exactly go how we wanted to. Like, let's go throw it to this other one and maybe kind of reset here. Yeah, I mean, it was a bad look, but it is a part of responsibility. I think, look, we don't know what he was dealing with, what was in his system as far as to even get to that point to play in the game.

1:30:14Like, it was a lot of shit going on in addition to him not loving doing the media as well. Defensive play to win the game. Unbelievable play. You're probably trying to get down there and celebrate with your teammates. Just with a lot going on. Last thing I can remember with a coach and our player was Ben Johnson earlier. You know, it was that halftime? Yeah, with the DD. With the DD. So, I mean, it's a lot. We all know it's a lot of shit going on while you're in between those lines as soon as the game ends. That's why they give you that cool down period, you know, in the locker room and stuff like that.

1:30:40So, bad look. But, you know, everyone will move on from it. Hopefully forget about it. As they should. And Laura's a dog. Yeah, she's great. She handled it great. Yeah, exactly. She's not going to worry. And we should say, like, dude, the guy had surgery on Monday. Like, that is unreal. Like, I've played with a broken hand before, and I know he was putting it out there like it was fully normal, like stiff-arming people, taking hits, putting it on the ground. Like, that was impressive. Dude, the whole game you're watching, you're like, hang on, this guy definitely has a broken hand, right? Because he is not acting like he has a broken hand.

1:31:11He was putting it in between helmets. Like, that is the exact spot. you don't want your hand to be is anywhere near a helmet and there's multiple times where he had his hand on top of a helmet with another helmet potentially coming and i'm sitting at home like no no that's that and then he like slips out at the end or he falls you can tell by the end though it started to hurt whatever it was he had a couple of those handoffs with his with his right hand and then he started he started taking the bump he started taking the uh the right shoulder bump as opposed to being anywhere on his left hand it's like he was obviously going through a lot of pain but we have to remember, yeah, we can all go along.

1:31:46Yeah, we can all go along out here. And I would like to know more about Herbert. I would, but I don't think we ever will. No. He hates that shit. I mean, he hates it. Good for him. Yeah, and his teammates love him. Good for Laura. She stuck with it and got the interview. Like, some people might have turned away and be like, well, he's not going to do it. She persisted and got the interview. And to his credit, he wasn't like a super – he wasn't a prick. He wasn't being super short. Like, he answered her questions sufficiently where when you first saw it, It's like, oh, he's going to give her one-word answers and then get the hell out of here, and he didn't do that either.

1:32:16What do we think? We think, most likely outcome, Herbert did not know that was Laura Rutledge immediately afterwards. That's the way I took it when I first saw it. He looks down. Yeah, I'm going to go. Can I? And then all of a sudden it's like, hey. I think he's just that guy that always is like, I'm going to go in with my guys. I'm going. I'm going to be with my guys. And he's like, he doesn't care. He doesn't think of what it's supposed to be or what he's supposed to do. He's like, I'm celebrating with my guys after a week. Yeah, he is not acting like a movie character of an NFL quarterback.

1:32:44No. Justin Herbert does not do that at all. That is not how he operates. There are some guys that we see. Although he looks like it. He certainly looks like it. Handsome. The hair. The whole thing. So good. He was running this way. He had one of these back across. There were times where his hand looked like Chubb's hand from Happy Gilmore because it wouldn't move while he was running. So it was just staying straight. Get that thing in the way, maybe. All right, let's talk about some other games that are taking place. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Jage, you're on Bills at Patriots this weekend. Thank God, because I couldn't take any of the other crews from CBS.

1:33:17I'm very excited to listen to you. That was unbelievable. There's no reason for that, Jage. I'm also very excited for the other crews to get their game. CBS has a great slate, but I'm just glad that I get to listen to you and Eagle. What do you expect? This is the first division clinching game, I think, of the season for any division. Bills versus Patriots. If the Patriots win, they get the division. If the Bills win, they are still in it. I think everybody kind of expects them to be in it no matter what with Josh Allen, especially with what he's doing. How do you see this game going? And do you actually know what the weather is?

1:33:49Are we going to get a sloppy snow game, or what should we expect? I've learned that I know nothing about weather, even if I study the weather. That's why. I have no idea. I'm looking forward to whatever it brings. Sloppy is fun. We got some sloppiness down there in Colts Jacksonville this weekend. But this is going to be obviously a great game. I mean, the last one was a fantastic game earlier this year, and we have two bona fide MVP candidates going at it in a division where the Bills, I believe it is, they have not been swept by division opponents since 2019 when it was the Patriots that did it then.

1:34:24So this is going to be a great game. Obviously, Josh Allen is Superman, and when he goes into Superman mode and he makes those plays, it is extremely hard to stop him. Now, the Patriots, on the other hand, I'm checking my notes because I literally just did this study about 10 minutes ago. New England has allowed the fewest plays of 25 yards or more in the entire NFL. They've only allowed 14 of them. And you think of Josh Allen throwing, you think of Josh Allen running and scrambling. That's where he is at his best. And also that run game is insane with Cook. So I think it's going to be an awesome game.

1:34:56Vrabel has the Patriots playing extremely well. Drake Mays playing at an unbelievably high level. This is going to be a phenomenal matchup at home for the Patriots with a hat and t-shirt on the line, even though I know Vrabel doesn't care about hats and t-shirts, but this is going to be a good matchup. Very excited we're on the call. Good for Vrabel. Have you done the production meetings and all those things? Not yet. They're Friday. Connor, what questions you got? You got anything you want to ask of Vrabel or Drake May? No, I ask nothing from my Supreme Commander and my quarterback on my team, but I would just like to know what does it feel when you save an entire region of a country?

1:35:30He legitimately has injected life, both of them, into New England. So just the feelings and emotions you get when you know you saved millions and millions of people. I'd like to know. So up there in the Revolution region, we got Paul Revere, obviously. Yeah, and Paul, you know, I don't know if you go all the way back to Paul. I think you could go back to, you know, maybe even one of the Wampanoag Chiefs that kind of started the Natives back there. But I think you could go to Paul, I suppose, George Washington. Sam Adams. Sam Adams, yeah, exactly. Bon Jovi. No, I'm going to go to J.J. either. Bill Russell.

1:36:02Yeah, Bill Russell. There you go. Coach Sacco. Larry Bird. Yeah, you go Larry, you go Bill, you go Bobby Orr. I mean, those are kind of the guys. You could even kind of dip to Donnie Wahlberg just because. That's a big deal. He's the first Wahlberg. And Mark. Yeah, Damon and Affleck, they're definitely up there with duos. But as far as, like, truly bringing the city back. Pedro. Pedro, yeah. Big Bobby. Dom Z. Well, then we got to talk about Tommy. Tommy and Greg. Yeah, Bill. I guess I'm going to go recent history. That's the thing. Boston's got a lot of them up there. Revolution region's got a lot up there.

1:36:38But none that have kind of rejuvenated and brought a revival to a sport the way Drake May and Mike Vrabel have. Now that I'm thinking about it with the list we just rattled off, no way Paul Revere makes that list. Yeah, well, the thing about Paul Revere, at the end of the day, he's still got so much British in him. He's got so much English in him. He is a Middlesex County tried and true, just like myself. But, again, Paul Revere still, you know, it's kind of like a Columbus situation. Like, did Columbus see the land first or did the man up top see it, you know? And in this situation, I don't know.

1:37:12Well, yeah, but he found a place. Then he was lost and then he was found. And, boy, there was a lot that happened from then until now. But shout out to Coach Raves and Drake May bringing the place back. Hell, yeah. They tossed the T. They're tossing the T in 2025. Yeah, the H and the C. But never will I have questions for them. The coolest thing really is just like, wow, one year for Drake May to have no expectations. And now for the rest of his career, it will be, hey, better go win that division, go to that Super Bowl, buddy. He's got Josh Allen over there. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be one of those unbelievable division rivalries forever.

1:37:46And we, as a Patriots fan, you never had that. And the Buffalo Bills thought they had it. Well, don't even get me started on the fickle Buffalo Bills fans. Yeah, maybe ask him that, JJ. What's it like to just take the hearts and souls out of a city that acts like they won something and never even made it to a Super Bowl? That'd be cool. That would not be cool. They still pay into shovel snow in their own stadium. Okay. Hey, listen. That's a Dolphins fan right there. Did you see how quickly that they cleared the hash marks on that game? That was badass. Western New York's a special place. And have you seen the stadium?

1:38:17Have you seen it coming together, the new one? It looks good. It looks very good. I think they have a table outside. I think they have like a – Giant metal table. breakbacks. Like one of those bison need to be. Yeah. Don't expect it to be that long. You learn, though. You know what I'm talking about now, don't you? We're all on the same page. I do. This is what happens here. This is what happens when we get on the same page. I mean, it's an educational program every week. Nobody talks about it. Journalism, education, information. Dookie and education every week. Well, we try to limit the Dookie, but every once in a while, you've got to point that Dookie out.

1:38:53And when I was all away in your chin smoking that's that song's still going i'm trying to run into the algos if you can help jj go ahead and do it just turn the algorithm oh don't worry i'm pumping the algorithm yeah just mute it you know just play it on something else and just mute it so we can seed it in the algo for the rest of the songs to come in you know uh on that note talking about being on the same page and dookie aq has a question about a dynasty yeah the chiefs play the chargers this week and with a loss they're all but eliminated from the playoffs pretty much why are they so bad and what is going on in Kansas City?

1:39:22First of all, that sweatshirt is just top-notch. I believe it about a couple weeks ago. I mean, that piece of merch is just phenomenal. It's still weighing on mine, Fanatics. Agree. Sorry, I was mesmerized by the shirt. Connor used it as a chance to take a shot at Fanatics. Three weeks, yep. Everyone seems to get theirs in two days. Games in three days? Games in three days? Sorry, Jage, go ahead. um i mean the texans defense is unbelievable i mean obviously the chiefs have had their issues this year just in general but the way that the texans defense is playing and the way that their matt burke has them humming is just it's incredible i don't think anybody at all wants to see this texans team and i mean the the fourth and one decision in this last game was obviously a very interesting one you make it you're a genius you miss it what happens happen um but even more so the next one when they went for it on fourth and four on their own 41 with 531 left in all three timeouts that was just another one where it's like the Texans offense just had not moved the ball literally at all in the second half and they gave them a short field two times in a row there um it was it was just interesting and in the past those are those downs where you're like the Chiefs without question get this fourth and one here or they get this fourth and fourth here and they figure it out and all these one score games this year they just have not gotten those that they have traditionally gotten for whatever reason it may be and obviously they're missing a whole bunch of old linemen and everything but just it does seem to be at the current moment that they don't have that magic that they once had uh let's talk about the magic though that houston texans defense has there's some stats from hembo talking about the greatest texans defenses in history this year they're averaging 16 points per game giving up all the other great defenses in houston's history had one man wreaking absolute havoc all over the place.

1:41:16And whenever you look at these years, 2011, 2014, 2015, you can't help but think about Vince Wilfork we just talked about. You can't help but think about Brian Cushing. You can't help but think about literally that you had studs all over the place. Houston has sneakily. Reeb Jackson. D 'Amico. Randy Merciless. Sneakily. No. Sneakily. Sneakily. D 'Amico. Has been known as like a great defensive organization. I think that is a very real statement that you can make. Draft Mario, Super Mario, to get to Peyton. Obviously draft JJ. They spend a lot of money on defense, always have. This one potentially not only Texans historic, but league-wide historic, JJ.

1:41:55And on that note, they have that defense that's unbelievable. And if CJ can get going, which we all believe he can, the Texans can go on a run and maybe even win the AFC South. And then the Colts just signed a future first ballot Hall of Famer. So the Colts can win the AFC South for sure. And then there's a team down there in Duval that you just had eyes on. Go ahead, D-Bug. Yeah, what's your thoughts on it? Because a lot of people, speaking of Dukie, a lot of people were calling Trevor Lawrence Dukie, but he's turned it around as of late, playing some of his best ball. BTJ as well, he's turned it around this season.

1:42:26What's your thoughts on specifically that offense and Trevor Lawrence going forward? Like, can they be a real team to deal with down the stretch? Yeah, I don't think they get anywhere near the credit that they deserve. I think that just kind of probably because of the way their season has gone and they didn't start out with a crazy hot record and then continue it. But they have found it as of late. First, making some big changes at their bye week and then also having some tough conversations after that collapse they had in Houston where they gave up the big fourth quarter lead and lost that one.

1:42:56The thing that I've noticed by far about the Jacksonville Jaguars now having called them twice this year is that there are really no egos in that building when it comes to let's just figure out what it takes to win football games. We don't care if that means running the ball. We don't care if that means quarterback has a wristband, doesn't have a wristband. We don't care if that means that we drop the most beautiful plays of all time. If they don't work, we're not going to run them. We're going to run whatever's best for our offense, for our players, and that's how we're going to win. And they've done it.

1:43:24And then on the defensive side of the ball, Anthony Campanelli, the defensive coordinator, has done a phenomenal job, not only encouraging incredible tackling, they do not give up yards after contact. They tackle really well, and they also have coverage in these takeaways. They're taking the ball away at an unbelievable rate. The very first offensive play of the game for the Colts, they ran an RPO where they thought they had the look they wanted. They got the linebacker to pull up, but what they didn't see was Devin Lloyd was purposefully dropping back into that window. They gave this false little look and tricked Daniel Jones into an interception.

1:43:57They're hitting on all cylinders, and they only continue to get better. Trevor Lawrence, this game, played a phenomenal game. I think that Brian Thomas Jr. and Jacoby Myers have only had two games together, but you're starting to see what that unlocks in this offense. Yeah, I understand what you're talking about down in Jacksonville being a good thing. We were talking about Houston obviously being a good thing. We got eyes now on Phillip Rivers at practice. Here we go, yes. Anthony Calhoun from Wish TV here at local Indianapolis. Not only is he just talking and, you know, joshing it up with Shane Stike in a couple days after his 44th birthday, but also play action, drop looks good, and yeah, yeah.

1:44:34Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think we're – yeah, yeah. Still got it. Yeah, I think we're – yeah, yeah, I think we're A-OK. Okay, look at – hey, Josh, this is what I'm thinking. I need you to go out and just be at like seven yards instead of six yards. That would be a little bit better. Riley Leonard obviously getting back to practice today with a knee. Oh, he's tutoring. Andy Richardson out there obviously trying to gather some thoughts from Phillip Rivers, which I love. Obviously, that was a good sign from Anthony Richards early on in the season. Carly Ursa obviously talking to Shane Steichen, saying I like his form.

1:45:07You know, I like the way he operates. I like the way he has a leader. What are we thinking here? Carly's actually saying maybe we get this out quick because Seattle's going to be bringing a lot of pressure. Shane says that's a good call. We'll go ahead and work on that. So, Phillip Rivers balling. Shout out to Anthony Calhoun. Shout out to Wish TV. Letting us get eyes on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, every time I see that. Literally, you're giving an answer. It's so funny, Connor. What's so funny is Riley Leonard saying right there, go home, Phil. Go home. Okay? We got Riley. Let Riley Leonard get a shot.

1:45:33All right? You guys suited and booted right there. Take the jersey off, Phil. Take it off. I thought the same thing when I saw Riley Leonard there. I was like, I thought Riley Leonard wasn't even going to be practicing. But Riley Leonard is out there. Go home. Be a paw. Dan O said it yesterday on TV, too. Hey, Robbie, what is your injury? You have to be 10-10. I'm not even reporting an injury. I get a shot in the start quarter. Week 15, my rookie year, I'm good. I walked off. I'm good. Nothing. But, hey, it's something they know that we don't know. But I do love what I'm seeing from 17. Looks like the same guy.

1:46:08Dan Orlovsky sent me a minute 30 video here while we've been live. I mean, who knows what that could be. I'm sure he wants to counter something that we've said. Sully Taper was out here, perhaps. Maybe he did break down Wazowski. Did you get to watch that, Wazowski? Wazowski. I did not. I did not. I mean, I saw clips. I saw the clip where it was the interception, fumble, and the ball didn't move. I don't understand this. Is it just the real game happening? Yes, it's 10 minutes behind, but it's obviously Wazowski. See ya, see ya. It's 10 minutes behind. Yeah, it was 10 minutes behind. It was the middle of the game, and I remembered it was on because they ran a commercial or something.

1:46:51I was like, oh, I'm going to go check that out. The game was playing on ESPN. In Monstropolis? No. The game was playing in real life. Then I go over to this fun day one, and it's in commercial. I'm like, what is this game even on? Turns out they were two commercials behind, I guess. They were kind of having to track it all. How do they decide who gets to be Sully and Mike? Well, I think blue and green probably with the Chargers and the Eagles. I think whoever scored a touchdown. Look at this route by Mike Wazowski. Call that a corner. Wazowski was on the Eagles, right? And then Sully was on the Chargers?

1:47:28Correct. Green and blue. Yes. Green and blue. But I see. So Mike Wazowski catches the ball every play. It's never like a regular player. No, he's hovering. He's supportive, too. He cheered on his teammates a couple times. He throws it as well. Every once in a while. You'll see him playing cornerback every once in a while. Sully was being bumped on the edge. How about you set an edge? You need to watch all the tape, okay? Because Sully was flying around the corner. He had a couple sacks as well. Yeah, five years,$580 million. Who got that? The Chargers, they finally ponied up, paid their guy. Sully got the guy that's dragging across the ground right there?

1:48:05Yeah,$350 guaranteed, highest contract. I mean, one-handed sack for the game. Yeah, I'd say it was worth it. That happened, AJ. Or JJ. jerry um now we've had we've had some we've had some ridiculous segments on this show we've talked in depth about the bathroom and the toilet this is this is nearing that territory what excuse me are you talking about what i don't think we're the target audience here i don't think it was made for us i am connor was certainly legit watched the whole thing i was i got kids where you switched to were you were you on what justin herbert was on or what like what gee no i wasn't yelling at any kids.

1:48:41I was just enjoying what they were putting on the TV for. Because he had a broken hand. No, I wasn't high. You never know. If you were that locked into Wazowski and Sully. Hey, I'll tell you what though. As you can see on those highlights, the boys could ball a little bit. I don't think I expected them to be able to do that. Wazowski had like a Saquon type vibe and also a Jalen vibe. It was an interesting win. Wazowski must have the best peripheral vision of all time. because he couldn't see that ball. That ball was thrown to the back of his head. He's a monster. He's got one big eye. He's got sonar.

1:49:17Look at his celly right here. He's a timing player. Look at this celly. Are you kidding me? Dragging his meat on the ground. Yeah, he ran a 40. Yeah, so don't worry about it. Jage, what do you think about Wazowski's team, the Philadelphia Eagles? Good question. Obviously, at the moment, it is not looking great. I think Lane Johnson's importance is extremely high. this was one of the craziest plays I've seen a lot this little game the game in general may it may not have been the most ever but it certainly felt like the most turnovers I've ever seen it was just crazy it felt like every single possession something wild was happening which is a blast to watch as somebody who has no skin in the game and doesn't care who wins and loses it was fun I'll tell you what Connor I didn't think this before but after watching Wazowski and Sully and then we cut right to this highlight.

1:50:07That's why I said, what's that? Because the other one looked so much cleaner. And realistic. I felt like the other one was just so much nicer whenever you see this felt like I'm there. It feels like I'm in SoFi watching it. The other one, the actual play, that's kind of lame now that I think about it. We need to start watching every game maybe 10 minutes behind in Monstrosity or wherever we want. Yeah, Monstropolis and also it's like, oh, you wonder why there are so many turnovers. I don't see Wazowski out there. I don't see Sully on the field in this version. Oh, because they can't detect him.

1:50:40Bingo. Yeah, it's like, well, I mean, is that even... Wazowski makes that catch every single time. So, I mean, I don't know. Jay, you need to have a little bit more respect maybe for Sully and Wazowski. All right, Jay, we're getting the hell out of here because we have a hard out here in about two minutes. But we would like you to do is kind of give us a two-minute breakdown of the MLS Cup and And what the World Cup team, the United States of America, is going to look like as we take on Paraguay, Australia, and probably Turkey in the World Cup as our soccer expert and owner. Thank you, Jay. The floor is yours.

1:51:15I mean, I have no idea why you think that I would know about the MLS Cup or the World Cup. I have two teams in the Premier League and in La Liga that I am most deeply concerned about. Real League, you can say it. I have followed along with the MLS Cup. No, I think it's great. Miami won, right? Yep. Messi. You have followed. You have followed. I mean, I saw the photos. I see it because of Gump. I see it. Yes, we do. I see it because of Gump. Okay. First, we have players going to AFCON, which is the African championship. So that's always tough because you're losing some of your best players, but it is great.

1:51:52But I follow through Gump. Gump does a really good job with the soccer coverage, especially the MLS coverage, and clearly a big inter-Miami fan, correct? Oh, yeah. He's a concave of a pod host. Obviously, we follow along to keep up with the soccer news. Every once in a while, I'll do a Burnley or Espanol update if things are going good. You said you guys are still in the Premier League. Espanol's in fifth. Espanol's in fifth. We got Getafe this weekend. Massive one. Burnley, we've been going through it a little bit at Burnley. It's been a rough stretch. We've got Fulham on the weekend. So we would really like...

1:52:24We need a win. We need a win against Fulham Jays. We need one. Yeah. Yeah. We are on the hunt for some points. Lights just turned off in my house. Not a great moment, but I think it's going to be a great, great game this weekend. And Espanol is going to continue to roll. I can take 15 more seconds here if you want. It's a beautiful day outside. I'm looking forward to living life. And you know what, guys? Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. You love them all the time, every day. Have a great day. You might change somebody's life. Love you. pretty good good remix bro pretty good remix all day every day all the time never know i was i wasn't prepared for it at all and i thought i was going to find it as i started talking as soon as i said to be a friend tell a friend i was like we're going down the right path and then it just went back to the love it there's no love in there there's no love i don't know why maybe in your version there is though maybe there is sometimes you want the brain to work and it doesn't work and then it just grinds gears does this happen in the booth every once in a while you get this upset and mr eagle has to go jage it was a three-word flub we got more words to say and then get you ever uh no i this is actually a good question for you because you do a show every single day which is is crazy some mornings you wake up and you're like oh my brain is firing today like you're ready to roll you're hot you're like nope no question and then there's mornings you wake up you're a little foggy you might like grab the coffee and instead of pouring coffee into it you pour milk into it you're like dude what am i here today you ever catch one of those on a game day then you're like hang on i gotta reset my whole life before i go into this booth or i'm gonna talk some crazy shit yeah how do you do it have you had those no we just know you're just on every day that's unbelievable this guy please wake up and go brother yeah there's your way let's say i do pour milk into the coffee mug i'm telling myself immediately i did that on purpose let's keep it rolling excited to see what comes out here later let's go ahead and go for it and we're super scripted you know every day so that helps too so whenever you say like uh when you said you started with be a friend tell a friend you're starting down a good path that's every i mean that's every that's every sentence that's every sentence of every day so yeah we don't have we don't have time to have fog brother we don't have time to have the fog yeah bruce yesterday Crack me up.

1:54:46When you had the clip of Bruce's struggling over here, I was dying laughing. Me too. He's bent over over here. There's not a lot of space. It's like this much room over here. I just see his ass bent over in front of me. Hitting the fucking microphone. There's a lot of that.

1:55:11He's living. He had Gator shoes on yesterday. He had clean ass Gator shoes. Gator shoes on yesterday. I mean, it was. But we were talking about something that was very real. And I just, B.A.'s ass just bouncing back and forth. It was like the top of the hour. You were starting off with something new. It might have been Phil Rivers or something like that. Pretty big news. And then all of a sudden I just see this legend's ass over here. And I'm like, all right, you good? All right, we keep rolling. And then all of a sudden we dropped it again. Boom, boom. It goes down again. And then he's got to do the whole process.

1:55:41He's awesome. Oh, it was Utah. That's what it was. It was the Utah college thing. Investment areas. Yeah, and we're back. Yep, you're doing great. Don't worry about it, B.A. He is one of one. I mean, B.A. is one of one. It's great to get his brain on things. So are you, J.H. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Hey, are you still golfing ever or no? No, I do not get to golf. I thought I was going to golf so much in retirement. It has not happened. So you hate that you don't golf anymore or would wish to golf, or have you pushed it to a later time in life? Like I have come to the realization golf time is later in life.

1:56:14Yes, precisely. Pushed it to a later time in life. Two kids under three and a half years old and a job. Just not the time to be golfing. How many dogs you got? That's it. I have two. And they do not listen to me. Oh, yeah. We experience that every week. Tex had a pretty good week this week though. It sounds like. Tex! Tex! Hey, hey, hey, hey! Hey, hey, hey, hey! JJ killed all the squirrels in his neighborhood. Yeah, got them all. We took care of the problem. They used some of AJ's techniques. Nice. Would you boil them or something? What did you do? That's not my technique. He was just took them all down.

1:56:56Look at AJ. Look at him. He said my technique. That's like the old Sebastian Maniscalco technique of putting antifreeze on bologna and tossing it out in the backyard. Jeez. So smart. What are we doing here? I didn't say it. Everybody's quoting everybody. That's why I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do anything. All right. You tried? J.H., we appreciate you, man. No, I just thought about it. All right, that's J.J. Watt. Thanks. J.J. J.H., you know when he says, I tried the AJ technique, and then you go, you're boiled up? I was already talking before he threw me into the equation. So, yeah, it's on me.

1:57:29Oh, so you're like the fun day thing? You're like 35 seconds behind the conversation? Because it sounds like you answered immediately after he said the word. Well, did you see him light up? He's like, he started lighting up. I'm like, oh, this dude actually really was killing squirrels all over the place. and then I stepped on him. I stepped on him and then shut him down. He's like, I can't go into it. That's what I felt like. I do it all the time, brother. It's tough. You gotta really look in the mirror once in a while and say, you fuck that one up, brother, and just keep him up. But on that note, I appreciate the fact that Jage, I appreciate that Jage says there's been a game day, I guess, this year where he woke up and he did not feel smart at all.

1:58:03I do wonder what a psycho like J.J. did in that moment. I'm assuming he found a cold tub. Yeah, I bet you there was. Beat the fuck out of himself. He's definitely banged his head off the wall many times. You're not this stupid. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. First year getting this opportunity, he puts you in a big boot. That would be awesome. Just watching JJ be like, no, no. No, no. It's your fucking brain. If my arm's sore, I fucking work it out. What do I do for my brain when it's not working? He's been good, though. I'm so pumped. He needs to keep doing what he's doing. because he's clearly just living in the moment.

1:58:41That's Tony Romo, too. Tony Romo very much lives in the moment. He's firing from the hip. Tony Romo's doing a lot of firing from the hip, and I think sometimes he sounds like he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, but I think it's because he is firing from the hip. So I enjoy the kind of ride with Tony Romo. I've gone full circle with it. I loved it early. Then I was like, I can't do this. And then I'm like, actually, I respect the fact that Tony Romo goes in there and just is fucking living, calling a football game. and I think Jage has been living in the moment as opposed to trying to force things and he's trying to enjoy it because I think he does enjoy the game as much.

1:59:14He's a good listener because they're setting the tone, the vibe for the entire game. They're hanging out. When they have fun, it makes it fun to watch, I think. Yeah, we're watching the game with them. Like, hey, we're watching the game with you so you're in our living room so however you kind of, you're controlling the vibes which is why Tariko, Tariko is like a vibe. Tariqo's phenomenal. I think Al Michaels has always been considered a good vibe. I need him tomorrow. Why? Yeah, fuck us. No, it's NFL. Remember, we'll be praying for games like this, times like this, so we can watch like that as they play like ass.

1:59:52Not this one. Not this one. Falcons. Mike Evans is back. We've had a lot worse, I feel like. We have, but just the way these two teams have been playing, no thanks. No thanks. Titans-Browns would have been a gift on Thursday night. I agree. What was the number on Thanksgiving? 22 million or something? Oh, 57. 57. No, no, no. Amazon had like its highest. Last Thursday, 22 million. It was like the biggest standalone Thursday night game they've had. That wasn't a holiday. 22.8 million people. Yes. Now, you can't compare that to the 57 million or whatever that like a network linear television has because obviously the pipelines that linear television has into every business, every house, every yada, yada, yada.

2:00:35and linear television is still very much prominent, which is an interesting thing because I'm not gonna get into it. I don't wanna get into it. When I decided to license show linear, a lot of people thought I was stupid because linear is yesterday. It's like, well, how long is yesterday gonna be today actually? Because we're living in it. So even if it is a 10 year, 20 year transition, that's still a long fucking time of linear still dominating and still having massive amount of real estate. So like how long is linear still gonna crush? Feels like for the foreseeable future. Now, is it going to inevitably disappear?

2:01:04Yes, we all can see it. But when does that day completely come? We don't know, especially with all these numbers that keep coming out for what some of these games are having. But 22.8 million people having to go to an app to watch a game, like the amount of power. They had to go there. That's what it is. They had to go there, right? The amount of power. Like, that is an actual people mover. And then Amazon just sitting there with 22.8 million people on their platform at that exact time. It's like the amount of, they're already putting ads in. They're already fucking doing the shit. They're already doing the entire thing.

2:01:30It's like that is a huge case study that the NFL is going to use for Apple for fucking. You don't want 22.8 million people just to be on your app for one thing. Like, wouldn't that be a massive success? Yes, that's what we're all looking for. We're trying to get events to drive people to our platform. And then all our ancillary shit hopefully holds them on our platform. That's kind of the strategy. That's why you see these big events on all these streaming platforms. That's why you see Amazon. Like, we got them on Thursday night. Let's keep them there. Oh, we're going to do music afterwards. remember they were doing like a concert series titty boy was on it i saw him by the way dapped up titty boy twice oh okay in a very short period of time so it felt like it was maybe a forced second one no that's normal yeah okay but it was a quick interaction he walked in holy fuck titty boy that's what i said we're in a lot of very uh you know the money in the room that we were in it's pretty high me and gumpy not really supposed to be in said room you know we're kind of we don't even have a seat actually we're just kind of standing in between two buffet runs but it was very nice to be where we are sushi roller right here they had some great fried chicken and popcorn over here had a little bit more I mean it was a phenomenal set no seats everybody was in there already we got in there late so we're just kind of eating awkwardly in front of everybody talking to people that doing our thing just ordered a jacket diet thank you for that we're at the Elin Hawks game and in this store say about a hundred people in 70 people in here in this door holy fuck titty boy me and Gumby both hit each other like this fucking titty boys here

2:03:31He gets within earshot He's still doing that Most Expensivist. Did you ever see that show he did? It was awesome. Yeah, he was smoking like gold weed while he was doing it. That was crazy. That was crazy what was going on. But, yes, we need him. Because I think he owns – I don't want to give away business. I think he's part of the NBA. I think he – When we went to that Hawks game for whatever Thursday night football game you were doing there, all their merch he designed or was a big part of the Peach Street stuff that they were selling. It was awesome. Yeah. I don't know how I got to seeing 2 Chainz right there, but boy, Titty Boy, you need to know, we appreciate you around here, buddy.

2:04:08Oh, yeah. Saw a lot of stars at that game. Saw a lot of stars at that game when 2 Chainz walked in there. He had 10 of them on, by the way. Wasn't it 10 chains I think he had on? Yeah, at least seven. He had the sickest Supreme fur kind of coat. It was unbelievable. Yeah, hair looked so cool coming out the back. Had little sunglasses on. I mean, he looked fucking awesome. Ben Shelton? Mm-hmm. Tennis player? Yeah, big sumbitch. With Trinity? Yeah. So I met them. He is big. Stood up. He's like 6 '7", isn't he? Yeah, so somebody from the Hawks. Really? No, I think he's like 6 '4". Yeah, 6 '4". So lefty, right?

2:04:43Yes. Dog, 23 years old. Thinking of John Isner. So he walks in. Somebody with the Hawks. It might have been Mr. Coonan. Mr. Coonan, Steve Coonan, one of the owners of the Hawks. We know him. He's the one that invited us into this room. He comes up behind me and he goes, Do you like tennis? You do now. Ben Shelton's walking up here. and I actually knew who that was because he's young kid right and I immediately thought to myself oh I think he's in like a relationship and I turn around Ben Trinity Rodman right like within two feet I go I stand up I'm like what's up dude Trinity how you doing very nice to see you obviously I hope my daughter ends up playing on the U.S.

2:05:14national team you are so awesome so cool I like the way you you guys kind of shot your shot at each other and you guys find love in a hopeless place and I check Ben real quick I'm like how you doing man he's great knows the program so I immediately go into shit talk. Which sport would I do best against you? Ping pong? Is ping pong the one that I could get you? He's like, I'm pretty good at ping pong. I'd assume. I'd say probably nothing. Don't do any kind of racket games. I told him I won 18. I won 18, though. Like, if we're playing 21, I won 18 points. And he said, what, so I'm going to do 10 field goals and you're going to give me six of them and I have to make seven?

2:05:52and I'm like, interesting. Then you look at how athletic he is. I started watching highlights of this motherfucker. He could kick a field goal. He could play soccer. This guy is unbelievable and he is big and he is a dog. Immediate shit talk to me. As soon as he started talking to me, I'm like, yes, love this guy. And also Trinity, shit talk as well. I'm like, yes. I love what the next generation of athletes is like. And yeah, he's a beast. I think we got one. I think we got one in Ben for the Future and Trinity as well. I think we got – it was cool to meet him. That place was loaded with people is what I'm saying.

2:06:25And what's that? What are you – Oh, no, nothing. What are you – there was a face. We certainly got one, but – Just the highlight we chose there, but no, I love Shelton. I'm a big fan. Was it not a good highlight? No, it was just him playing Yannick Sinner, who him and Al Karaz are kind of – Ben Shelton's unbelievable, but those guys are – No, Ben Shelton's on his way. I agree. They're both younger. If we have any Americans who are going to win a Grand Slam, he is it. But those guys are really fucking good. Yeah, and Ben's working his ass off. I know he is. I know he is. I want to see it. And I saw him throw.

2:06:58They were throwing tennis balls, right? Was it tennis balls, Gump? Do you remember? I think because it was him. There was like five tennis players that came out. Five big names. Yeah, they were just chucking. Was it tennis balls or shirts into the crowd? Naomi. There was like 10 of them they brought out. Osaga. Osaga. She was one. She came out. Ben Shelton came out. Who's some others? Jack Sock. No. Coco Goff? Andre Angus. Coco Goff, yeah. No. Maybe it isn't. Yeah, him. Sabalanka. Sabalanka. Sabalanka was there. He was there. Nick was there. Really? Oh, okay. He was there. Drew Eubanks. Was there a big event in town, obviously?

2:07:36I don't know. I don't know if it was tennis night. And then it was also black fraternity and sorority night. At halftime, there was a full step show that took place. Oh, yeah. I would like to say, I think the Qs won. They had the most energy, and they were certainly the loudest. And the Qs in the crowd, we were sitting right next to a group, definitely the most pumped whenever they hit the – what's this? This is the group that was there. Oh, that guy. That guy on the right. That is Nick right here. Yeah, so that was the group. That was the group that was there. Ben Shelton's on the far left. How tall is Sabalenka?

2:08:06She's tall. I think she's six feet, yeah. Jeez. But I'm saying it was a who's who there, and that's kind of how the Hawks operate. It's like our team, yeah, yeah, yeah, our team's going to be good. Where you sit? Well, you can sit in this hangout area. You can sit in this hangout area. We've got a buffet over here. We've got a hangout area over here. I think they can get 17 ,000 in there, but it's a lot of open spaces. And it's always like a who's who of people. Just come in. Anybody that's in town just comes through games. Sick. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Hawks. Thank you to Hawks for hospitality.

2:08:31Hell yeah. Food was pretty good, too. Sushi roller right there. Not bad. I gave it domo rugato. It was sick. The food was great. No, that was Mercedes-Benz. Same, though. Same companies. Same people, yeah. Same companies at Boppos.

2:08:52Football! He's the greatest. That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of Everything DB. Good D. Bad D. Which we will see in a matter of moments. Yes, sir. Darius J. Butler is here. Congratulations on a U-Ball time. Thank you, man. It's beautiful sitting here. Stogies right there. Team Bone and Butt is just dominating or what? Yeah, they're putting Bones and Butt. Man. Bone and Butts. Bone and Butts. You should make t-shirts, guys. Don't make me say it, guys. I don't want to do that. I don't want to get this canceled. Let me stop saying that name.

2:09:25Okay, well, D-Block is the name of the team now. Okay, he put that right there at the end. Hashtag D-Block. Try to get in front of it. Yeah, the former team, Bone and Butts, is their original name. They lost the first game out the gates here to me and Foxy. There were certainly some situations that arose in between the next game where I was potentially asking for maybe an exhibition game as opposed to a contender game. Because me and Foxy for the last three months haven't been able to really practice or work on anything. Every single game has been a thing against every person that's played this game for the last three months every single day.

2:10:01Fighting chips. So I just wanted to work. We didn't have as many teams around. People got out of here whenever we started playing. So there was only a certain amount of people there that actually play U-Ball. So I didn't want to just, all right, we're just going to give you another opportunity, another opportunity. Like, hey, this is a good time to maybe work on some stuff. You know, for us to maybe change up our game. Change up my shot, maybe, which I'm in the middle of a swing change. You know, that type of stuff. And U-Ball said, or D-Ball said, that's not U-Ball. Puts his hoodie on, jacket, acts like he's going to leave.

2:10:26He goes, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. That's not what U-Ball is. That's not. Exhibition. I thought you were fighting champs or whatever. It's like we fought for three months, every single person, multiple times. Just trying to do a little something, maybe get better at the game. because I do enjoy the game, but we're kind of pigeonholed into being the champs all the time. We don't get to have as much fun as everybody else. Boo-hoo. Yeah, losing is much more fun. Well, at least you can experiment stuff because if you get your ass beat one way, you can try something else. For us, I don't even think we're anywhere near our peak.

2:10:54I think we haven't even got a chance to really practice. So I just wanted one of those. And bone and butts, classic, just say, nope, not doing that. And I want to play. I want to get a little exercise in. So we allowed it to happen. Had something in my room. That's tough. I said all these things before the game, though. I would like it to be done. I was mid-game, mid-championship game. The ball came out hot. He pulled up a hammy after getting beat deep. Exactly. It's my right eye. I understand. You can't see. You can't play, man. It's tough. I'm watching in stereo here. I've seen Foxy play through it.

2:11:33Pulled calf. Worthy champions. I've seen you guys battle. I've seen you guys make walk-off shots. Great defense. You posted a defensive highlight the day before we won. Yeah, we're great on defense. You guys were as well. You guys had some great defensive stops and some great points. You've got to win on both sides of the court. So Bone's getting in the air now? Bone actually is getting off the ground? Wow. Yes, yes, he is, AJ. He made him off. There's rumors going around the U-Ball universe that New York has not reviewed the footage of the championship game yet, so still to be determined. No, that's not real.

2:12:05Well, Foxy's the only one who talks to New York. Exactly. New York is his phone. So, I mean, Foxy's certainly the one that would know. We've got to take New York a little bit out of it. They're a little more hands off. I like that. Yeah, I mean, it's good if it goes, mostly because of effort. So, what happens a lot is D-Butt makes not a lot. I don't want to bury Bone because Bone has been playing great U-ball and he's a champion. So, I don't want to bury him too much. He's gotten better. Weird shooting thing. I mean, just he's a trailblazer. He has gotten very good. But D-butt, you know, on the defensive end, makes, like, some insane play, you know?

2:12:38And then he tosses it to Bone, and Bone forgets that he's supposed to be in the air when he catches it. He catches it, and he's like, oh, it's supposed to be up. And then he goes up and dunks it. And it's like us, me and Fox, we're like, that's a great play by D-butt. Like, that's an incredible play. So in U-ball theory, good if it goes because that was maximum effort. But the guy that actually put the ball in is ten toes down every time he touches the ball. So, you know, it's a… Gentlemen's game. Good if it goes. Gentlemen's game. Add some of mine. Okay. I wanted to win with dignity, but it was tough after reviewing some of the footage from that particular game.

2:13:13And I would like to let you know, you guys were a good team. I'm proud of him. He took control at the end, after he won the first round. Because usually you guys like to start shooting, and we end up being, you know, the bottom of the ninth. But he was like, no, no, no. So I'm like, hey, yes. No. No, D-Bot. We had to have a little powwow. And then he came out with two for three, first round. So, hey, all right. They really did. So, D-Buck goes two or three, I think, in the last inning against us to beat us. Hits a walk-off game winner. Okay, so he hits two out of his three shots from the opposite free throw line.

2:13:46D-Bone, I think, hit one of them. So, they had a huge final inning to beat us. It was like big comeback, boom, go ahead and win. And then now it's a championship game. And you can either start on defense or offense. And we always start on offense, shooting. because air balls are minus points. But if you're not on defense, you haven't accrued any points yet. So you're not really affecting yourself. It's strategy. It's smart strategy of the game. We have found. We've been chants for three months. This is how we play. So like we have found this to be our strategy. Anytime somebody has got to a championship game against us, they've just basically allowed us to continue to play with our strategy.

2:14:19Like, yeah, we're going underneath. We're going to shoot last because they think they're going to make a lot more shots than they are going to make tips. Defense is where you get all your points. Tips are just, the shots are kind of like a bonus. So D-Bone and D-Butt, whenever they win, D-Butt's like, yep, we're going down defense. We're going to do exactly what Foxy and Pat have done for this entire run. And I will say, I did not expect it out of D-Bone. D-Bone said, D-Butt, we're not getting into this. We're shooting first. And it was crazy to see. It was actually crazy to see Bone do that. Pat, I want a Jedi.

2:14:51And then, hey, then he fucking steps up first one. Splash. D-Butt fresh off of going two for three the last inning. splash. Bone splash. D-butt miss, I think. Bone miss. D-butt make. All of a sudden, we're down 8-1 or something. Yeah, it was tough. And it was championship game, and it's like, holy fuck, we're about to actually potentially lose this. We are maybe going to lose. This is the first time we've ever really felt that way. And it was admirable what you guys did. So new teams? I mean, we can just keep doing this. Yeah, we got to figure it out. I don't know what my U-ball future looks like.

2:15:27Whoa. I spent a lot of time doing this when I couldn't do anything else. Winners stay on court. Can somebody else fucking play? No. Winners got to stay on court. I would like to go right over there, though, for about 10 minutes. Maybe sit down for a second. No. Call a play. Fucking somebody else wants the title. Sorry. All right. Who held the title the longest? Who was it? OTC? Or was it somebody else? Bruno Sammartino held the world title for like seven years or something like that. Okay. I think. But the OTC. Bob Backlund, not too far behind either. Eugene had a couple good months. He had a good run.

2:15:59I think we're talking world championships there with Eugene. Eugene got one. Oh, we double-checked with the miss. Eugene got one. World title. Did you check with Gilbert, too, just to see? No, Gilbert, unfortunately, didn't get one. But Eugene did. Remember we had Gilbert on the RV? Oh, yeah. This show is... How could you forget? You people that are watching our show right now, thank you so much. You have no fucking idea how terrible this thing has been since the jump. Since the jump of this show. I mean, we had done, we've done some horrendous stuff. Things that we thought were going to be good ideas and then just end up not being fantastic.

2:16:35Like the back of a box truck. We're going to take down to Louisiana with no air conditioning and do a show live from that. Yeah. That was a nightmare. 135 degrees in the back of that box truck. Go for it. All the tech's shutting down immediately because it's too hot, turns out. So let's go pick up some fans from CVS to see if that'll help. That was a good idea. On the flip side, it didn't really have, The heat wasn't great, so we did one in Pittsburgh, and it was like minus five in there. Tech was breaking there. Yeah, that was tough. I thought we really changed the game, though. Back of a box truck with a studio.

2:17:07It was cool. Plug it in. It had a plug on the outside. Just plug it into a thing, and then we have full studio inside of the back of a box truck. I really felt good about it. It worked for us. Brilliant. It did work. It was awesome. It worked for us for a while, but there were some drawbacks. Certainly very stressful for certain aspects of it. But, no, it did absolutely work. What do you mean, Stressor? You talking about, like, in the back room there? Yeah, like, that was still when we were, you know, putting the podcast up, and there was a lot of editing involved with it, and it just, like, never worked, ever.

2:17:36Like, or something always went wrong. How about the phone, though? That was easy to operate. Yeah, yeah, the phone was certainly easy to operate, you know, when you're trying to kind of ride the levels, and then you got, like, 800 people calling in. You try to put them through, and for whatever reason, you know, that doesn't work, so you got to go back and, you know, dick around with a bunch of stuff. and the space back there was very tight. Me, Foxy, and Zeke were kind of sitting on each other's laps back there as well. Box truck. All it can be so big is the lane. Exactly. The lane of a road is really all you got.

2:18:06You forget that. That's really all you got. The width of a lane is all you have. Yeah, we've taken a winding road to get to this point. We're very thankful for everybody that has allowed us to do this for a living for so long. We assume you all stop watching. When you do that, we will stop doing this, right? Mm-hmm. And whenever you guys do that and choose to do that, we would like to let you know we understand. Right? Yeah. Certainly. Yep. Fuck you, AQ. You're only here once a week. What do you mean? What do you say? Why would anyone stop watching? No, they won't. You know they won't. Why would anyone stop watching?

2:18:38I would if I was them, but we appreciate the fact that they allow us to do this for a living, and we'll continue to try to provide things that maybe make the sports world better. Like, for instance, the top five performing offensive lines every single week when we go in the trenches. AQ, who are the top five O-lines of week 14 of the NFL season? Let's start with number five, the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers get a huge win against a division rival, Chicago Bears. I love this play. We're going to leave two to the front side. The front side is the right side. End man on the line of scrimmage is going to be the kick out from the guard.

2:19:16Tight end wrap. Wiley, look at the block by Aaron Banks. Squeezed through there, plus 10. This is who Green Bay is, by the way. Josh Jacobs isn't going to break it for 40, right, Ty? He's not going to break it for 50 very often. But he's going to give you six. He's going to give you seven. By the end, in the fourth quarter, he's going to give you 10. And before you know it, they got 100 yards rushing, and they pass blocked their ass off. Jordan was awesome, too, yesterday. Yeah, that is kind of big. Because last year, it really was. They were only going to go as far as Josh Jacobs could take him.

2:19:42And they still need him to be good, no question. but they are at their best when Love can push it downfield and kind of be aggressive. And, I mean, I think all three of the touchdowns that he threw on Sunday against the Bears were third and eight or longer. So it's like when the explosive plays get back, that's when they can really be at their best. And versus the Blitz. Keep eating him up. He's going to keep lighting you up. We like the Bears' defense too, right? This is a great performance against a great defense. Yeah, absolutely. And Dennis Allen's been great, as D. Butts knows. I mean, he came from New Orleans.

2:20:13He's a legend down there. a great defensive coordinator, but he lives and dies by the blitz. And whenever you can pick it up, Jordan Love and the Packers did a great job. The Bears one year away? Two years away? Quarterbacks got to get a little better. That's what I'm saying. But will he? In that system? He's got to take steps. Oh, you're saying you don't know if he will. I thought we all just assumed he will because of where he is. I'm not assuming that at all. Is anyone else? I think I assume he will. I assume he will. Okay. You're assuming. You're not assuming. I'm not. You're saying a lot of work is going to have to go into that?

2:20:42100%. Yeah, he's going to have to get better. It is also tough because Bo Nix and Drake May both got exponentially better this offseason. And he had a brand new offense, brand new everything happening. But on that note, Ben Johnson's offense, we all just assume is electrifyingly good. And a couple other guys did too. As a Packers fan too, they are much better, but the Packers are still very young. The Packers aren't going anywhere either. And the Lions, I guess we'll see what happens. but we're talking about the Lions being shite, and they're 8-5 right now. And you know who else we're talking about?

2:21:17Nine. Who? It's coming off. Threw for 163 yards and three touchdowns and no interceptions against maybe the worst team in the NFL on Sunday. He wasn't asked to do anything else. He threw three touchdowns. He hit 123.9 super-duper. Yeah, pass rating. The rating. Yeah, exactly. The one that goes over 100. Right. Pass. What's that one go to? Because I saw a 130 the other day. 158.3 holy what a perfect number for a rating to go to that's what we needed we need more of that we need 158.3 to be the top it's like when i'm with gumpy hey what's the temperature outside and he tells me canadian right and then 22 celsius yeah what and then he there is an equation close to minus two celsius right now and then we go to chat gpt how do i do this and they're like well actually subtract 22 from it and then you should be able to get to it's like well what if it's negative do i add it or and it's like well that's not accurate hasn't been right at all so i don't want to have to do all that okay so just give me the 100 one i don't need the 158.3 one because my brain isn't good enough to know what's fucking an a and what's a b and a c in that they also do like where a guy will go like 19 of 32 let's say and throw a touchdown and his quarterback rating will be shit and they'll be like it would have been higher if he would have just spiked the ball on every single play yeah when they go like 39 or something is when yeah yeah yeah the turnover Overworthy plays.

2:22:38It's all that bullshit. That isn't real. Now, I have a question. Do they say that because what that play actually equates to in a QBR when you have to spike the clock, when you have to spike the ball? Like, in that situation, what a spike is in that particular case, the scoring of it, are the people just assuming that that score would remain the same for each play if they were to do it on first down, second down, third down, and fourth down for the entire game? But I don't understand it. Does the situation matter? Well, when a guy throws a touchdown, that's the best possible outcome on that play.

2:23:09So how do you grade that? Like, well, this guy was open, and he had to throw a little bit tougher of a throw. It was a touchdown, but he probably shouldn't have thrown it. Oh, we're not getting into this. We hate this. And that's the DVOA and the DVOE where it's like overexpected, over average. It's like normally someone who makes this throw is an interception, so that's technically a turnover-worthy play. They score a touchdown, but, I mean, this goes into the whole PFF thing where Geno Smith throws for 100 yards. Did they take the rankings off on Sunday night? No, they didn't. They did not? No.

2:23:37No. And a lot of players on the Texans, especially on their offense, this might surprise you, were ranked very, very low. Hey, we got a good one for you tonight. Look at this shitty group of dudes. Why would they even want that? Their O-line. I mean, their whole entire O-line. One of the guys wasn't even ranked. Titus Howard. Just a dash? Nothing below it. And I'm assuming it's because he plays tackle, but they've moved him into guard? Probably. So they don't even know where to rank him. So they don't even know what to fucking do. They should take the best rating that they have for each player.

2:24:08This guy has the best two steps in the history of ball or something. Try to make it look good as opposed to just burying these people. Do the rankings change week to week? Like say you have two Sunday night games. Could you be 25th out of 100 this game and then 60th the next game? Later in the season, it's going to be harder to move drastically. Obviously, early in the year when there's less amount of reps, you can obviously move. It's all law of averages, brother. It's all law of averages. Core GPA. That's right. You're basically set right now. I don't know if there's enough wiggle room for you to make a big drastic change.

2:24:38Unless you just completely shite the bed, I guess. I hope so. You can move down, I think, quick. Definitely. I think it's hard to move up. Yeah. Where he is, where he is. Good luck the rest of the way. Swago. Who's number four performing offensive line coming out of week 14? Whoa. The Denver Broncos. You like this team. It feels like this team has been on here a couple times. Yeah, I do like this team. I like the group up front, and I really like this running back. RJ Harvey's been fantastic, but this is duo, right? They got all the people in there. multiple tight ends, extra bigs, and we're just going to run.

2:25:06Who are we going to find? We're going to find Quinn Miners, right? Run between that gap. Find Quinn Miners. Find McGlinchey. Find the guys that you paid$100-plus million to and run between that whole bunch. Who's 60? 60's the center. Luke Wattenberg. He just got paid, too, by the way. Watch his feet here. Yeah. How good is that? How good is that? Look at Garrett Bowles on the left. Left tackle. He's been paid. I mean, this whole group's been paid. By the way, it's a Pretty good thing to know that if you're playing the Raiders, you're most likely going to be on the top five offensive lines that week.

2:25:39I'm just going to throw that out there. Oh, the Raiders suck. Yeah, real bad. I mean, I'm almost positive every single week they are on the defensive side. So, Max Crosby is just getting double, triple teamed, and then everybody else stinks? He makes his plays, but they don't – I mean, just look at that hole. You just run up the interior. Look at that barrier. Geez, I didn't even see that until you just mentioned that. It's incredible. The barrier? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, 60 there at the bottom of the screen. Boom! Got a win streak in it. That seems to be a little violent, doesn't it? Broncos offense good enough to win a Super Bowl?

2:26:07Yeah, they are. The crazy thing is I think they're dogs this week. I mean, along with New England, they're both dogs, and they're arguably the two best teams in football. But, yes, what Bo Nix has been able to do, I really like what Bo Nix is able to do. Did you see what he did in the overtime? Yeah, we're not talking about that. We're not talking about it. We'll just move on from this conversation. Something popped up. Something just popped up on the backboard here. Number three performing offensive line at week 14 is Tennessee Titans. I've said publicly in this microphone, hey, I try to find out who's going to win a Super Bowl for the fucking top five performing fucking offensive lines every single fucking week.

2:26:43And we got the Tennessee Titans on here. Can they do it? They went against. AMC South, it's a juggernaut. You also got to understand, this is the last week of buys, I'm pretty sure. I think there's no more buys. So all our good teams that are on buys are back. So the groups moving forward for the rest of the season are going to be the really good groups. This group, however, went against the Cleveland Browns. Good defense. And they beat the shit out of them. They really did. They held Miles Garrett to one sec. They beat the shit out of them, and they ran the shit out of the ball. They ran for almost 200 yards against this defense.

2:27:13How are they so bad? I mean, it's certainly not their offensive line. I mean, it starts with their quarterback. He's young, and they don't have any talent on the outside. But the running back is Tony Pollard. We all know Tony Pollard. Great with the Cowboys. He's been paid to go over to the Titans. And they've got good players. You've got Zeitler here out in space. Look at Kevin Zeitler. Zaitler's one of the best guards in football over the last 10 years. There's three guys on the ground right there. Let's go back real quick. Can we take a look at Gunnar Helm, too? Let's see number 84, second level.

2:27:36Circle, second level on the linebacker. Rookie tight end from Texas going and burying someone at the second level. Two guys on the ground at his feet. He'll take both of those knockdowns. Feels like the Tennessee Titans shouldn't be his ass. Is that what you're saying? They have to get better at the quarterback position and the skill positions on the outside and running the offense. But up front, they got guys. They got first-round picks across the board. They got J.C. Latham. They got Kevin Zaitler. They got guys. Pete Skaronsky. He's incredible. I've seen Cam make throws with my own eyes. I've seen him when he played the courts.

2:28:04Yeah, I'm sure. HQ, who's 75? Who's the left tackle? JC Latham. Watch him. Watch him. What's a little bet move in? Oh, yeah, a little slingshot. And then use your body. Then get your body on the other side of the set and a pick. That's beautiful. That is. A little slingshot technique. You got Bama? You got Bama? Yeah. Latham, yeah. Yeah. He was out of the guy's favorite. O-Lyman this past offseason. The Tennessee Titans offensive line coach was Mr. Callahan. Yes. He was a good offensive line coach. Very good. So, why do they suck? I mean, their scheme wasn't very good. And, like, let's just call it a spade a spade.

2:28:40We can sit here and say what we want about number one overall pick Cam Ward. He's not there yet. Period. Well, and that's the thing. Every single press conference was Callahan going like, Oh, you want to call the fucking play? So, like, can you learn that much? He was so angry. Yeah, can you learn that much from a guy who doesn't know how to speak? He was so mad. Just always yelling. So mad. I mean, Paul Kuharski would just be like, so what did you think about your game plan this week in Callahan? Would literally be like, you fucking come up with it there. Yeah, but Paul would have a little sauce on it.

2:29:10He would, he would. Paul would say, game plan in which we lost by 30, how do we come up with it? Like, there would always be something. He knew what he was doing. Yeah, oh yeah. And Callahan just couldn't help it. You know, he was dog with carrot here. Yep. Yeah, I'm actually going to get it. I'll take the bait. Fuck you. It was tough to like him. It was tough to like him. Huge fan of a guy like that who comes from a football family with a legendary father who's an O-line coach who then leaves his team to come coach for him. That guy on paper is someone that you fucking love. But then every single press conference, he had to just eviscerate someone for asking him a football question.

2:29:51Nothing sums up Brian Callahan's tenure better than the, I don't know what this is. I don't know what the hell that, what does that say? What is that word there? What is that? This just got popped up on the screen. I O'Meara non-challenge in week one. So he's a receiver. Do you know that he's a fifth-round pick receiver from Stanford? Oh, yes. Okay. I didn't know if that was some sort of stat. I didn't know if that was some sort of better than the stat, you know, this whole thing. So he, an elbow doesn't equal two feet. My interpretation of the rule was wrong. I misspoke yesterday. I'm well aware of the rule.

2:30:22Okay. I guess that is kind of what we – that is a great representation of the entire thing. Cam Ward, though, sounds like you're not – how about him on Caleb and Cam? I also think – Both these guys suck. No, I don't. That's what he said. I don't think that. I think they have to grow, and that's just where we're at with rookie quarterbacks. They have to get better. But I also think – last thing on this thing is the Callahan head coach versus that Callahan old man who's the O-line coach run two different schemes, right? Like Bill Callahan comes from this scheme. I think there was kind of like a little bit of butting heads based on, hey, let's bring my dad in, great offensive line coach, but he likes to do this with his O-line, and we're running a scheme that doesn't really necessarily benefit what we're doing with my players.

2:31:00So within the own family? Yeah, shut the fuck up, Dad. I practice every day. I think there's a little bit. I also think when you have a first round, when you have the number one overall pick. It's like an Orange County chopper situation. I'm serious. The title is always battled. I mean, they're making choppers, but it was two very different styles of making choppers. Yeah, that's sad. You're saying the Callahan boy and Callahan fodder ran different styles? I think it was two different styles, and I also think you try and force when you have a number one overall pick, hey, let's just drop back and let them throw it 35 times a game.

2:31:29I don't think that's the answer for young quarterbacks either. You sure about that, son? Yeah. Oh, in front of the whole team. Yeah. Here's my resume. Dad, why don't you come outside real quick? You motherfucker! Don't ever fucking challenge me in front of the fucking team again, old man! Sorry about that, guys. That won't happen. Right in the hallway. Just walk back. Big succession. Yeah. You want to call your dad? No. I'm going to call your fucking dad. They need a Mikey over there, you know? That's what the Tuttle's had. They had Mikey, the other brother that really had good vibes. He did bounce him out.

2:32:07He did. Well, the other Calahan brother, talk about a temper. Makes those two look like MLK. A unifier of. Yeah, that guy is a hothead. Callahan's family, I guess not. It was like when some people describe family vacation. It's like we're just picking up the drama and taking it somewhere else. They did it to Nashville, man. They did it to Nashville. It's unbelievable. I didn't know that was the case until right now. I thought it was a good story they were coming together. I thought it was potentially becoming them versus the Titans. Maybe the Titans were kind of going, what you're saying is maybe the Titans saw what dad was doing or like what dad was doing a little bit more than what son was doing.

2:32:43And then the dad was saying, boy, I've been telling you your whole life you need to do this. Just need to run the ball. Just need to run the ball. Number two offensive line of week 14 is, wow. The Miami Dolphins. I can't wait to see the matchup this week. Man, a lot of losing records on this top five offensive line. Yeah, there is. Not for much longer. Not for much longer. That's right. Tell them, Gumpy. I mean, this group is fantastic. And let me tell you, fantastic. Yeah, I like that. You see what I did there? I like that. Let me tell you, they have been so good running the football recently.

2:33:09If you watch this clip right here, start the fullback one way. Alec Engold is as good a fullback as there is. And Aaron Brewer, if he is not the first-team All-Pro center this year, I quit. He is the best center in football, hands down. And this is why. Because he runs to the next level and he runs people off the screen. Look at that little torque at the end. But he's the reason their run game is going. So the Miami Dolphins aren't ass? No, they've become very good. And it all started when they fired their GM. I'm not sure what correlation that is. But all of a sudden, they became good at that moment.

2:33:39What was that, Gump? What do you think and why? Chris Greer stunk. Also, Austin Jackson came back, and we're just sticking with the run game. McDaniel's done with it. We're not doing the stupid shit where we're dialing up these dumbass plays, just pound the rock. Nobody can stop our run game. Going to keep doing it Monday night in Pittsburgh. All right. Whoa. Yeah. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys live in hammer. Done. Done. I didn't know you had the number two offensive line this week on primetime, Are you scared to death about retro Rogers maybe having to run into a dynamite Dolphins squad?

2:34:15Yeah, yeah. Super, super scared about the Miami Dolphins coming into 18-degree weather. Steelers have won 22 straight Monday night football games at home, and they're wearing color rush. So, yeah, I'm shaking over here. You are shaking? No. It's fucking Dolphins, dude. All right. Let's move on. Is A-Chan hurt? No, he's ribs hurt. Doesn't matter the back of running back. They were beating the shit out of the Jets so bad he could take the rest of the day off. What was that? His ribs hurt. What's that with flexion you're using, man? Oh, my whibby's hurt. Is that your daughter? Are you being your daughter right now?

2:34:53What is that? He's being Mason Rudolph, maybe. Coming in for Aaron Rodgers for a couple plays. I don't know what that means. I don't speak Canadian. Thank you, Joe. All right, let's go to the number one performing offensive line of week 14 of the NFL season. Yeah, the Los Angeles Rams, hands down, by far the best O-line this week. 250 yards rushing, 280-plus yards passing. They did whatever they wanted in the desert. Let's look at this backside. Alaric Jackson, little seal block on the backside on Darius Robinson, and then boom, out the gate. Terrible fit by the safety. But having said that, 48-yard touchdown run right there.

2:35:31We knew this was going to happen, right? Puka was one of the ones. Puka Power, it's a game he's calling. Yep. Offensive line that is now automatically showing up with whoever's playing against the Arizona Cardinals because you're seeing them. Yeah. They're starting to become a little bit of a – if I get my eyes on these things, all of a sudden I'm a little bit more impressed. Is Los Angeles Rams offensive line Super Bowl worthy? I mean, the problem is every time I'm watching these games against every team in the NFC West, this is what they're doing. Uh-oh. Not good. Arizona Cardinals, nine-and-a-half point dogs this weekend against the Houston Texans without both of their starting tackles.

2:36:03Sportsbooks know something that we don't know, but on the Rams side of things, they are one of the three NFC teams that we see as representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. That's an accurate assessment. Yeah, there's no doubt. I think their offensive line is fantastic. The stuff they're doing in 13 personnel is great. Their tight ends are great. Their receivers are great. They've got two-headed monster with the backs. Let me say this. I watched Matthew Stafford come out one for four, and I'm like, okay, cool. We're going to have a chance. Cardinals come out. They score right away. It's 7-0. and then all of a sudden he throws 13 of his next 14 and just everything just starts going.

2:36:34Yeah, he won one of four, but before that, they just ran it right down the Cardinals' throat. I mean, which goes to your point here about the offensive line. All right, shout out to the top five performing offensive lines in week 14 of the NFL season. Congratulations to them. We appreciate the hell out of you big boys moving bodies for the betterment of ball. Now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get smarter. It's time to go to the secondary. It's time to go to some defense. It's time for good D, bad D, everything DB. with D-beat Darius Butler. Yes, sir. We'll stay in the NFC West. We got a rookie making waves.

2:37:04They got, I mean, a bunch of talented guys on this defense from the front line all the way to the back end. Devin Witherspoon, one of them. But Nick Immunwari, rookie, Swiss Army Knife, made history in Seattle. Field goal block, sack, couple TFLs, and a pick. Just roll the highlights. This whole defense might be down there. We talked about them. His defense fly around. They do a ton of different things. They're good against the run. They harass quarterbacks. It's going to be a headache facing Uncle Phil this week. We'll see what they got up their sleeves, but this guy is an absolute weapon. We'll get to the tape and see him on the All-22.

2:37:36First and foremost, this is the blitz. And you try to figure out who's coming, where they're coming from. You see the different disguise rotating, linebackers popping out. You pause it here, fire zone, five-man pressure, and pretty much almost like a quarter shell on the back end. Uh-oh. How do you stop that? He was the three yards off the line scrimmage. There was another guy that thought he was coming. I mean, it's just so good. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Every single week with Mike McDonald, he is creating things and pressures that we've never seen before. Literally. Never seen. You can hear the – Tell Revers you've seen him.

2:38:07Thank you. You can hear the right here, daggummit. Thank God we're hearing something. It's when we stop hearing things that we've got to be worried. But this defense is the real deal. It's the real deal. Watch 48 cross the face. Yep. Watch 48 cross the face. Boom. Annihilates two guys. Yeah, if you run it back a little bit, it's just – like you have blitzed paths. You got to be disciplined in those blitz paths, almost like routes his receiver to open up. He's doing his job. Five-three, he's doing his job on the edge. You open up that lane for three. When he gets back there, he's going to make it count.

2:38:36He's going to get him down on the ground. Big hitter, can play in coverage. He gives you so much versatility on that back end. He's unbelievable. As a rookie, you talk about, you know, B.A. talks about having your rookies ready around Thanksgiving. This guy's been a dog all season long. Timing of the blitz, you're born with it? Some guys are better. I think right now just watching Tate, like N 'Kobe Dean probably times up blitzes better. The linebacker for Philadelphia, 17, he probably times him up better than anybody. But it's a field thing. It's a practice thing, walkthroughs. These guys spend a lot of time with each other talking about it.

2:39:07The defensive coordinator, knowing when to call it. At this point, this was just an all-out assault. You're up a bunch of points. You know you're in a must-pass situation, so that's when you're going to get all the good shit. But guys are better at timing than other guys, right? For sure. Like that's just a natural thing. Being able to understand what a cadence is, what they're looking to do, not give it away so much. That's why they talk about Hall of Fame Harrison Smith. Like he has the timing in which his disguise is and what he does is a big thing. But he's born with that. Timing it up and, you know, acting skills too.

2:39:34Because AQ and those guys, they're looking at guys. Quarterbacks are looking at guys. Sometimes the DBs, it almost doesn't matter what they do because sometimes O-liners can look at the front and they can say, okay, they can only come from this side. and with this particular coverage, like the safety couldn't really blitz because two would have been completely uncovered. So you kind of know those different things. But still, when you time it up in the offense, they got to be on the same page post-snap as well. Running backs, they got to be on the same page. Sometimes they're scanning across, so they may see something late.

2:40:03It only takes one guy to be out of position. You get a free hitter at the quarterback. All right, let's roll. There's some more good deep. Hell yeah, another one. Devin Witherspoon in the slot. We all know about him. Fantastic young cornerback. He can cover. He can blitz. He's all over. Number three receiver right here. We always talk about tips and overthrows. And you see this play, like it looks almost like an easy catch because it's tipped up in the air. But you see DBs, linebackers drop these type of ball. I think I was talking to you during the Packers game a couple weeks ago. It's like, damn, if they just caught half of these, they'll be leading the league in interceptions.

2:40:32So catching this play, been in the right spot. Devin Witherspoon, he does the tough sled in there and then making it count in the back end, a big third down. It was 20-6 at that point. You know, Falcons maybe never had a chance. But right there, that's when that kind of avalanche just gets going. Thank you for showcasing how good this defense is whenever Phil Rivers does his thing. Yeah, I'm just giving Phil some more film. I know he's seen all this. And, you know, these coaches now, most of these coaches are younger than Phil at this point. He's seen, you know, where these trees started from.

2:41:00He's seen, you know, Rex Ryan and all the old guys in these trees. So this is elementary. But I want to make sure Phil sees it, though. He's older than McDonald's. What's that? He's got a point there. Phil Rivers is older than Mike McDonald's. He's been around ball a long time, Will. So you better have to bring your best stuff. And speaking of bringing best stuff, we talked about E-Man there. He had a nasty field goal block. I mean, like full extension. Off the right hand, perfectly timed. He didn't block it. Talk about the timing. Yeah, boom. Yeah, like here's a timing. Like you're born with this.

2:41:29I don't think this is like a thing. Ed Reed had it. Ed Reed had it. Troy Paul Malu had it, obviously. You remember through the greats of the past, they were able to just time things up perfectly. To be able to get to a field goal operation off the edge, like without any push, kind of low kick mess. The timing of your get-off has to be insane. And then the athleticism of the bend and the grip that you have to have, outrageous. So they're great everywhere in Seattle. He's an unbelievable football player. Witherspoon, same thing. He can cover any receiver in the league and one of the best blitzing cornerbacks in the National Football League as well.

2:42:02But can he cover somebody when Phil Rivers is throwing a ball? Has he found that? We'll see. I haven't heard anybody that can cover Tyler Warren. Yeah, especially Phil Rivers. Is Phil Rivers good with tight ends? I don't know. Is that what he went in the Hall of Fame? Yeah, who just went in the Hall of Fame? Oh, he's a basketball player. I think he's pretty good with tight ends. We'll see. Maybe more Seattle highlights next week. I doubt it. They could fucking kill us, it looks like. They could. But Uncle Phil could do it. All right, there's more good D. You have another great defense. Oh, we got to play them.

2:42:35Yeah, we'll see. Once again, just feed and feel more infill, more intel on these guys. Jalen Petrie, he's having an all-pro season. This may be the first time. I'm not sure we have to run the tape. This may be the first time a Guardian cap has made an appearance on good D, bad D. But he has been unbelievable. This entire defense, the corners on the outside, Stingley and Lassiter, they bring it. Lassiter as a cornerback, he's like a tone setter on that defense. Bullock, the free safety who knocks the shit out of Juju after the tip, he's been the best free safety, deep ball safety in the league.

2:43:07And Jalen Petrie, he's unbelievable. He can play in the slot. You see him one-on-one right here. Juju Smith-Schuster matched up with him. Undercuts. We talk about tips and overthrows. How about tipping it to yourself and then going and finishing the play? And he's not just, you know, a ball hawk. He's got four picks this year, but he will take your head off as well. Just an absolute heady player, instinctual as well. So the next play, you'll see the big hit that we've seen. You'll see how it kind of happens from the all-22 side of things. It's like a zone coverage. So up top there, they're like a quarters or a cover two type match.

2:43:37Down here, Stingley, he's going to match the tight end one-on-one. And he's just looking for work back there. Looking for work, reading the quarterback, reading the eyes, and time him up, line him up in a big-time legal, physical hit from Jalen Petrie. Time him up, line him up. That's a great bar right there. I mean, he certainly did both of those things. Oh, yeah. And it was a clean hit. Clean. And he had the guardian cap on, so he saved 33 % of the contact with Rasheed Rice's shoulder and jaw, which is very nice of him to do that for what the contact could have been. Rasheed, good sell. That was Shawn Michaels.

2:44:08Yeah. That was a Shawn Michaels type. I don't know if he's working. I don't know. I mean, he definitely – that's a big bump. Boom. And he's out. Bang. And another one. I mean, that's Shawn Michaels versus Hulk Hogan. Yeah, exactly. The type of selling. I was hoping he was okay after that whole thing. Whenever your shoulders are the first thing that hit the ground, you know, like if you run it back one more, like whenever your shoulder, that's, you know, what did an old coach say? AJ ass over T-kill or some shit like that. Yeah. Oof. Yeah, that's a big time thump right there. Yeah, and Rasheed Rice, by the way.

2:44:40gets back up. After this, gets back up. Respect that. Yeah, a lot of respect, a lot of toughness. But I do appreciate that Petrie had the big hit. And I also don't mind that people want to go over and fight a little bit. I saw some people that were like, can't be fighting on just a big hit. It's like, nah, you definitely can't. Just say, hey, that is not how this is going to go. Creed Humphrey, I think it was Creed. No, what's his name? The center. Yeah, Creed Humphrey. Creed Humphrey was over there within like half a second, like in the guy's face or whatever. and it's like, I don't mind that at all.

2:45:09And there's people on the internet like, this Chiefs team can't even take a hit without getting a fight. I'm like, I actually like that the Chiefs team is still fighting for each other at this stage of popularity and success and everything like that. And he knows if you're going to de-cleat somebody like that, there's potentially going to be a little bit of a – that's in every sport that is a physical contact. And that defense feeds off of that type of shit. Seeing guys laying on the ground, seeing quarterbacks slow to get up, seeing receivers are tight end complaining to the refs about getting held or guys being too physical.

2:45:36So it's a lot of that. This team, every week, they come out and they're trying to be the best defense to ever line up and play football. Even the small little thing. Can you go back to that video that we were showing at the end? Look at old buddy pick up the ball, too. Just in case this is rule to catch and a fumble, I want to make sure that we have possession of the ball. That's a small little detail right there. That ball is on the ground. D-line's first thought is, I need to go pick this ball up. We have no idea what's going to happen under review. And then also, we're not fighting in there.

2:46:04It's like you look at every little aspect of what they're doing. It's all good ball down there in Houston. That's why they're the number one defense in the league, and that's why they are a problem, and that's why they are a prime-time problem because the Boo Birds are coming out against them. And to your point about Creed, like in that replay, I guess I didn't really notice it. He's talking shit to the entire sideline. Like none of them can do anything, so he has to, whether it's for Rasheed Rice with a big hit or him or Petri Dish talking shit to the entire sideline. It's like, hey, someone has to at least say something to this guy and not just get bitched around on your own field.

2:46:34Is he the hardest hitter that's wearing a guardian cap? I think so. I can't think of many. I think most of the big hitters take pride on the fact that they're probably not wearing a guard. I think I'm not certain. I think he's had some concussion issues. Who wears a guarding cap in Buffalo? I think he brings a hat sometimes too. Taylor Rapp? Yeah, Rapp. Taylor Rapp. Yeah, some of the guys bring it. It's a different area. No, but I just respect the fact that let's put the guarding cap on because I am thinking about my brain. Now, with that being said, you're supposed to be thinking about my brain.

2:47:05I'm not going to be doing that when I'm playing because I am fine. I mean, we're not changing our style of play at all. I'm adding a layer, okay? Do your job, okay? That's what I'm expecting you to do because I'm going to do my job, and it's only one way, and I'm ahead of it. I mean, he is a hitter. Jabril Peppers. Yeah, him as well. But that whole defense from we all know about, you know, Will Anderson Jr., Daniel Hunter, Al Shaheer, he always toes that line when it comes to physicality. He's going to bring it. Bullock and I can't say it enough like Lasseter Kamari Lasseter number four their corners his second year like he he wants a lot of times we'll see usually on in the trenches uh because offenses they want to put the onus on corners and safeties to make those tackles on the third level like he wants that action whether it's blitzing whether showing up in the gap he wants that action we he actually was asked I forget who was maybe maybe maybe speakeasy I'm not sure one of the podcast at that late night after games they asked like who's who's like the first guy you want to send off the bus on your defense and i'm thinking he's gonna say will he's like shit me i'm about it i want all the smoke that's awesome i love it i love that as a young player i love that as well some more good d around the league oh yeah we all saw it on prime time both of these defenses showed up uh but the chargers they were unbelievable mentor they do they play a ton of zone coverage they're great on third down and they're always aware of what's going on it's a pretty common, simple route.

2:48:29If you run it back, we used to call this a dice route. You almost look at it when you pause it at the top where it's almost like a five on the dice. And it's typically, if you pause it, go back, pause it right at the top of Jalen Hurts' drop. So they're anticipating the drop. You see that flat defender go. Dante Jackson's played a ton of ball. Boom. So it's pretty much like a five on the dice, right? Dice route. Dante Jackson is great. And Dan O said it was on Devontae Smith because he slipped. I don't care if he slipped or not. Jackson is all over it, He put his foot in the ground. He's been playing great football this year.

2:48:59Reading the quarterback, foot in the ground. Boom, gets in front of the wide receiver, makes a big-time play. And it started pre-snap. You can see Derwin James at his safety. He makes communication as soon as he's coming over. Hey, whatever that communication, not only to the corner, but to the linebacker as well. Everyone's on the same page. Everyone's covered in big-time play. But it is, once again, this is week, what, 14 in this game? This is like a day-one training camp route. Like curl, flat, coffee. I mean, this is high school, college. About to pick no matter what, whether he falls or not.

2:49:29I think he jumped that sober. Great break. Foot in the ground. Unbelievable confidence in what was coming. Big time play. So I know people look and say, hey, this one wasn't on Hurts. It is on Hurts. It's on Devontae, and it's a great play by Dante Jackson. Hell yeah. We appreciate the hell out of all the great defenses thumping this year. It feels like it's a physicality group. Yeah. What defense will be able to lead their team to a Super Bowl? That's a conversation we haven't had in a long time. Feels like it's a real one this year. Congrats to all the good D on everything DB. Got one more. Oh, really?

2:49:58The game winner. Oh, yeah. The game winner, and it stays with the Chargers. Oh, shit. Okay, I didn't know where he's talking. Yep, with the guy who was on here last week, Tony Jefferson, who one of your former teammates, right, AQ? That's right. And he took a couple years off, I want to say. Not as many as you killed him. Two years. Two years off. Yeah, so two years off, you never see that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Two years? Two years. He had an ACL, and then he took a couple years off. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And he came. Five years off, maybe not bad. He came back and making big-time plays. We saw him last week against the Raiders running to the ball, talking about tips and overthrows, and this is him running to the ball again.

2:50:32Right here, it starts with Cam Hart, though. Cover two, going to get Jalen Hurts sprinting out. You kind of have a flat seven route, so he's reading this underneath the fender. He's reading Hart. If he takes the lower, I throw the high one. If he sinks back and take the high, he throws the low. This is first down. You throw the ball away, in my opinion. Overtime, you have an opportunity to win the game. Jalen Hurts with Khalil Mack in his face unblocked. He tries to force the throw. Cam Hart does a great job diving and getting in the window, tapping it up. And then Tony Jefferson, back-to-back weeks, does a great job on the sideline coming down within this situation, a game-winning interception.

2:51:05Minter going to get a job somewhere, D coordinator? Yeah. And Harbaugh has kind of been saying that from day one. He won a national championship in Michigan. It was unbelievable. Harbaugh got the job, brought him here with L.A. They had a good defense last year. Great defense. I think, again, this year, I think they have a championship-level defense. It's just going to be about can the O-line hold up. That's great, D, baby. Hell yeah. It's great trenches. And we got a great fight coming up. Listen, there's a fight about to happen that I think everybody on earth will be surprised when it happens and certainly loud, whatever the outcome is.

2:51:38There's a man who was once a child actor. Then he turned into an influencer. Then he became an empire, a mogul. Then he became a professional boxer. and all he's done throughout the entirety of it is try to do good for the sport, try to raise some awareness, and try to become a fucking world champion. Ladies and gentlemen, he has a chance to fight one. Anthony Joshua will be his opponent, and this is the biggest, strongest, most talented guy that he's ever been scheduled to fight. That'll be happening on Friday, December 19th. It's being called Judgment Day, and I believe it will be Judgment Day for the legend, ladies and gentlemen, El Gael Jake Paul.

2:52:14Yeah! Thank you for having me. dude thank you for joining us uh can i congrats on everything dude your your venture and you as well pat and you as well you guys are always crushing it man it's really cool to see all the growth and all the things you guys are doing so congrats to you as well and very cool of you to say we appreciate that obviously we got a chance to watch you lay a blueprint for a digital career and now everything that you've kind of changed and grown into is awesome all the while being a professional boxer i would like to talk about your investment fund because I think you're one of the earlier investors in Polymarket, which is now valued at like, I think,$8 billion,$9 billion, some other things.

2:52:51So congratulations on fucking everything, Jake Ball. You're not just some dipshit influencer. You know what I mean? We know that. Yeah, no. Sometimes I play that role for entertainment purposes. And, you know, I can do a little bit of everything. So I can be the heel, the villain. I can be a jackass. I can shit talk. I can be investor, businessman, CEO, boxer, whatever it is. You know the drill. Well, the current state of modern entertainment, you got to do it all. You got to play across the board and be good at all these things. But, you know, I've been in this game for, man, 12, 13 years now and seen a lot of people fall by the wayside.

2:53:28But me and my brother have just worked hard and and been super calculated and know what we're doing in this space. I think the work ethic is obviously absurd. And you guys are a couple of Ohio fucks at your core. So we have massive respect for that. But obviously talent and having to understand where the world is going is a forethought that not a lot of people have in history. You're a trailblazer. You know that. Now let's get to your boxing career. You've been very, very, very upfront about how you want to be a world champion. World champion. You focus your entire life to boxing, it seems. We've seen you in other eras and chapters of your life where you're doing a lot of things.

2:54:00Then you turned your focus fully to boxing. You said boxing saved your life. You fell in love with it. Now you're taking on a guy who has done the same thing with boxing for most of his life. He has loved it. He has invested in it. He has fought the greats. He's been in the biggest fights. He's been champion. I think a lot of us were very surprised that this would be happening. How do you feel just a few days out? And what went into the decision to fucking fight Anthony Joshua? Yeah, look, to me, I see a lot of paths to victory in his style. And styles make fights. We all know that. He's lost to guys who are shorter mostly and lighter mostly and faster than him.

2:54:39I see holes in his game. I see punches that I can land that can hurt him. Now he can definitely land punches on me, knock me out. He's more experienced Olympic gold medalist, two-time heavyweight champion of the world. This is definitely insane. I have to fight a perfect fight to be able to beat this guy, but I think that I'm capable of that. And to me, at the end of the day, all of this is experience. All of this is fun. All of this is getting in there and continuing to improve my skills as I work toward a world championship in my own weight class. I'm fighting at heavyweight. Oh, we lost him.

2:55:17They're trying to bog him down. At the end of the day, I'm going in there and I'm getting better. You're fighting at heavyweight. You cut off real quickly whenever you said you're fighting at heavyweight. How much weight is that more? How much heavier are you fighting for this particular fight? Yes, I'm fighting like 50 pounds out of my weight class. Normally I fight at 200 and Anthony Joshua will be around 250. Okay, so this fight's happening. There's people that have mentioned, like, there's no way this fight is actually happening, just strictly because of what you just said right there. I mean, the weight difference, everything else.

2:55:51Signing up for this because you're supposed to fight somebody else, tank backs out, now you fight Anthony Joshua. I think there's a lot of people that think this is all some gimmick because of what you just said right there. This is not the case. You understand that you're going in there with a man who's not supposed to fight somebody that is at your weight. He's supposed to be fighting heavier people that are bigger people, which in theory stronger people maybe more durable people there's weight classes for a reason in your mind that is just hey i need to this is a challenge i need to take on that's kind of the mindset that you've taken yeah for sure you know the fight is definitely happening first and foremost um we're nine days away right now but at the end of the day i like fighting bigger guys i was going in to fight gervonta davis and sparring against the tiny guys they're like flies moving around the ring now i've reversed roles and i'm the lighter faster guy and to me that's something that i like i can move around the ring outbox them i'll maneuver them land shots with my speed and i believe that joshua is very very tough very very tough but i see the shot that can knock him out and i'm gonna test his chin and this could potentially be the biggest upset and you know in the history of boxing, let alone sports, someone said the other day.

2:57:07It's right up there with Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, and I'm going to pull it off. Fuck yeah, Jake. Good luck out there, dude. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Jake, how do you see this fight ending? Is it going to end in a knockout one way or the other? Is that what you have planned? Do you think Anthony Joshua feels the same way? I don't think he can knock me out because he's not going to be able to line up his shots properly to be able to land the hard punch. I think it's going to be a very tough fight for multiple rounds. But then when I figure out his pacing, his style, his speed, his footwork, he's going to get a little bit tired trying to chase me around.

2:57:44And then I'm going to set up the shot. I'm not going to say exactly what, but I see what it is. And I think it'll end in the fifth or sixth round. I love that you see the shot. I assume, not assume, I know that you're filming yourself work said shot so that we can have said moment in recap video of the ipa, ipa, ipa, ipa to the real moment happening. And okay, Jake, I think you have to have that mindset going into a fight with somebody because you can't play boxing, obviously. But whenever you have that type of forethought and that type of vision and work, and then it all comes to fruition on the other side, talk about fulfillment in what your decisions are in your life.

2:58:23Excited to see it. Now, speaking of decisions, a lot had to be made, I assume, fighting somebody 50 pounds heavier. Go ahead, Jacob. Yeah, obviously a huge change in opponents going from Tank to Anthony Joshua. So was there a big change in training outside of changing the sparring partners like a diet, maybe doing something to get a little stronger? Obviously, you're going to knock a big dude out. Any big major changes in this training camp? Yeah, we definitely focused a lot more on the strength workouts and lifting heavier weights. I started to eat a bit more, but I didn't want to bulk up too much.

2:58:53The speed is going to be the key here, but we brought in world champion heavyweight sparring partners, guys who are 270 pounds, 250 pounds. You know, sparring them, you know, has been insane. I still got the remnants of. Yeah, I see you taking a little shot there. I like that you're taking those shots, though. Have to eat them. Have to eat them. Yeah. And look, that's what it's all about, you know, preparing for the night. my coaches are some of the best in the world and they tell me look we believe that the sparring you're doing right now is going to be harder than the actual fight night they don't lie to me i trust in my coaches and i also believe that as well big shots any of them that land obviously with the heavyweight is potential end of fight which is why heavyweight fights are always the one that everybody is kind of looking forward to you fighting at heavyweight is fucking hilarious jake you need to know from outside looking at it is a hilarious concept that you're doing especially whenever you guys at the face-off it's like this dude is gonna because you don't have to do this this guy does not have to do this and i don't want to reiterate this to you as like somebody who's watching from the outside and i know you a little bit i think at this stage jake paul does not have to do this like i just said he has an investment in polymarket the thing's worth one of the series a investor in the polymarket things worth nine billion now okay all the different business this guy's had seven houses in puerto rico this fucking guy like does not have to do this it's all for love of sport right that's kind of what it is love of sport that you found for boxing yeah no that oh no back says it using me as a vessel to inspire the next generation of kids going from zero to the top of a sport in five years right if this fight was a couple months ago there would be a heavyweight belt on the line and when i beat joshua i would technically be the heavyweight champion of the world this is a simulation of some sorts but i truly believe that i'm i'm here to show kids what's possible then that's always been my mission since i've started and is to inspire the the next generation and create one of the best sports stories of all time like i said not doing something and then rising to the top of it in such a short amount of time should inspire anyone to take action today and chase their dreams because in five years six years seven years you can rise to the top of uh industry if you're fully dedicated and i believe that's what my story will show in documentary one day cannot wait to watch it all uh you broke your nose is this new i'm seeing your nose your nose is is that from the same more crooked brother i'm not gonna lie the the sparring the heavyweights my nose has moved a couple millimeters to this camp um a guy by the name of frank sanchez he definitely cracked it a little bit so it definitely has a slight little something in there uh but yeah man it's bad frankie wait hold on look at that dude yeah i'm like squidward dog Hey, Frankie Sanchez, they talk about him.

3:01:53He's got that. Is he one of these guys? He's the one right next to me on the left. Those are gigantic dudes, bro. Once again, Jake Paul does not have to do this. That is the entire angle that I think kind of gets missed. And on that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Jake, when it comes to this fight, it seems like people either in boxing media or combat media, they've only criticized it just because of like, Like, hey, this is what could happen. And I feel like you're no stranger to that. That's been every single one of your fights, whether it's Nate Robinson or whoever. It's, oh, he's just fighting this guy so we can knock him out.

3:02:29But on the flip side, like, has anyone commended you for taking this fight? Obviously, it's a massive risk. And it's like, this isn't just some sideshow. This is a guy who's putting a lot on the line here to face someone who's a former world champion. Like, has anyone reached out to you and said that? Or do you not give a shit about any of that anyway? no yeah there's been tons of support and love and respect and people saying like wow like i don't even know if i like jake paul connor mcgregor being like i don't know about him but if he makes that fight i have to respect him joe rogan the list goes on and on about the amounts of people supporting it and saying geez if he goes in there that we all just have to show some respect um but don't respect me for getting in there respect me when i beat his ass that's that's what i've said to people is like i'm not just going in there i'm not just walking in to a fight i'm going to win and that's what's going to shock the world i will become the king of boxing and own the whole entire sport come december 19th okay let's talk about owning the entire sport we had nick con on uh was that last week uh the muhammad ali evolution or revival revival act or something like that to be able for the new tko promotion that is going to be running in boxing launching in January on Paramount.

3:03:46I think you were in support of potentially the change potentially to the Muhammad Ali Act. Maybe you have your own promotion as well. Have you thought that much? Can you do a lot of thinking about the future of boxing while training for a fight or is that constantly happening for you? And what is your thoughts on all of that? Is that kind of the state of boxing right now? Yeah, no, I mean, at the end of the day, I think the Muhammad Ali Act is good. I think it needs to stay in place. if it goes away most valuable promotions in our company we always treat fighters fairly so people can have a home there i worry about it going away and other promoters in the game because boxing's a shady business and a lot of boxers aren't you know business savvy and knowing what's going on so i believe that it it should stay um that's that's my take on it but the future of boxing we're in a great place and i think it's you know we're moving into i guess the streaming era of boxing which i believe can bring in more fans you know being the first to bring fights to netflix where it becomes more accessible obviously the deal with paramount more fans are going to be able to watch and that's what the sport needs and we need you know all the hype we can get so that the next generation of fighters go into the gym and we create future superstars uh that we'll see 10 to 15 years from now as they climb through the ranks and start fighting in the Olympics.

3:05:12That's what it's all about, and I think boxing is in a great place. All right. Well, we appreciate the hell out of you for committing to the sport, loving the sport, and putting on massive spectacles for the sport. Cannot wait to see you go in there against Goliath, brother. Judgment Day is a great name. I mean, it is a great name. Anything can happen, and I want to let you know, proud of you, dude. This is a cool thing. Good luck in there. Thank you, guys. Thank you for having me. I'll see y 'all. Keep crushing. You too, dude. And tell Frankie to fucking relax. We gotta fight some. Turn it up, Frankie.

3:05:43Pull punches. Honestly, alright. Ladies and gentlemen, Jake Paul, we appreciate it. Frankie Sanchez caught him with one. Series A in bowling market? Yeah. Holy fuck. Yeah, he doesn't have to be getting punched by Frankie Sanchez. Especially with where that's headed. Can we put the picture back up of who he's training with?

3:06:10Alright. Just oxes. We gotta get to a new... I mean, AJ's basically a good photo of it. It's basically AJ. Those guys. Look how big those dudes are. Julius Peppers always to the left. Yeah, it is. Oh, shit. Chom Airman's on the right. I mean, what the fuck? There's weight classes for a reason. You know, like there is a... It's insane. Looks like Indomitian Sioux on the far right. Look at Anthony Joshua, man. Anthony Joshua is one of the scariest dudes on the planet. I will say, guy on the right actually kind of looks like Jason Pierre-Paul, who is back. Yeah, he's back. Congrats, JPP. Hell yeah.

3:06:48Two more champs. Two more champs back. Phil Rivers is back. Man, it's starting to feel good, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Boxing's back. I didn't want to distract Jake with any more ventures, but I think he should. Oculus boxing has a lot of upside. Get in there. I think it has a lot of upside. It's a great workout. It's a great workout. Chuck Pagano was died. Yeah. That was the lowest level, easiest guy. I mean, it's this time of season, too, where things like that get gifted to older people, and then videos will come out of those older people testing them. Yeah. It's a very good time. It's a very good time.

3:07:26That's kind of falling off, right? I think I saw a headline something about Zuck has admitted defeat in the metaverse or whatever. 81 million or something like that, I think. 87. 87 million. The property people bought. Where's that? That's still very lucrative. Yeah, store it away for a little. Wait a year. Before going back up. Foreclosing the metaverse. I mean, people were getting mortgages out to buy property. $500 ,000. In a fake place next to somebody else. What? Not just somebody else. Snoop Dogg, baby. Boom. I think. I forget who it was. You could potentially live next to... Katy Perry.

3:08:06What were you going to do? Guy Fieri. Hang out. Well, you go in and you put your things on, and then you get on that little treadmill. You walk out of the front door. Ready player one, basically. And then you turn to your right, and it's like... With Snoop every morning. Yep. Okay, which is sick. And then you turn left, and Katy Perry's up there with Mr. Boudreaux. The Justin. Yeah, our hobby. Trudeau. Trudeau. So sorry, sorry. The previous leader of Canada. Sorry, sorry. And they were able to walk, and then Zuck's just out there doing rolling in the jujitsu. Yep. That's what I think they were selling.

3:08:39That's what people thought they were buying. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to talk about it. It just goes to what you were just talking about last hour, about the fall of linear television. These things are coming, but everyone thinks it's like tomorrow. That's just not a reality. So you say hold on to your property in a minute? I'm saying if you think you're going to be alive in 100 years, I'd hold on. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Pass it down to the kids. There you go. Exactly. Buy more. I would say for you. No, don't. But I'd say for anyone already in there. No, just hold. Hold for your great, great, great deal.

3:09:11Right now you sell, you're getting zero. So maybe in 50 years, 20 years, you have a chance to sell it for something. But what is it that you have? Maybe nothing at all. And they won't tell the story, but maybe we will try someday. boy, there was a lot of things that people tried to get us to do business with. Was it NFTs they were trying to get you to do? NBA Top Shot, are you talking about? Oh, yeah, that was amazing. You opened a pack on air. Yeah, which is just kind of... You became a billionaire, I thought. Well, if Zion can figure out this whole injury thing, there's a chance I could... There was coins.

3:09:44Bitcoin run, people were trying to get us to sell coins. Still going. The NFT thing was happening. This thing was a thing that people were trying to get us into. It's like, it's good how dumb I am. Where I'm like, I don't get it. That doesn't sound real. No, it's a meta universe. You have property in there and you start selling property within a meta universe. And I'm like, well, what the fuck am I? What is it? It's just, it's a space in there. You want to have space in there. So then you can sublease your space and then your space can be gatherings for your fans. Whatever the case, we'd like to pay you this amount of money to potentially put your name on some space in this thing.

3:10:18And it's like, that's a lot of money, but I don't fucking know what that is. I don't, I don't think. be unlimited space right couldn't they just oh yeah and that's what i said to the nft guy i was like this looks like a gif can i get the gif of this thing or no no you own the rp you own it they would say the nft thing is going to be fascinating there will be documentaries coming out within the next couple years and i don't know this for a fact i'm just assuming just about that business as a whole because people became billionaires off these nfts and artists for one thing sure but like those ape cards the scared ape cards that was one of the biggest ones and now board board yeah and now those were selling for you know tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of dollars now they're worth pennies on the dollar so like the documentary around that just that one as a thing let alone nfts at a as a whole will be fascinating just because i am interested in the entire arc of it yeah well how did it get that big why did it become that big and then why the fuck did it fall off if it was that big in the first place and then there are people with billion billions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars who made money off of these things and that money just doesn't disappear so like how did they make that money and then what did they come and not only them then then you can just move that right because nft i guess coins all these coins that people were selling yes i think those are considered nfts as well but they were selling a bunch of those coins we got pitched a coin in a couple million dollars hey here's a a million dollars all you do sell this coin like what the is the coin it's a good thing you want to have it i'm like is it it's named after me well your show yeah it's like it's not that good of a thing that if i had to guess who makes its value well there's only a certain amount of them yeah but what do they do nothing there's only a few of them can i buy anything with it well you we could potentially try to get it access to be able to pay for something but other than that it's just you have the ownership of something that is not very big that sounds fake to me but four or five million bucks right you sleep for this it's like no i don't know what that is i would like one of these coins if i would like it and i don't want this thing so i'm not going to do it it's there was a run there of people taking advantage of oh yeah it happened this year to people that we know on the internet not that we know no like people that we have seen on the internet i mean the the most high profile one as of recently was the hawk to a girl the hawk to a girl who you know was in that video and then had a podcast and things of that nature and then she had one of those you get offered i mean it the the pitch is very like i felt i felt bad yeah i felt terrible because like me listening to it i'm naturally a uh hey go fuck yourself guy like i i am with suits mostly so whenever somebody's pitching me something i am naturally gonna not like person okay that's just what I'm going to do.

3:13:04So then they're going to have to win it through this entire thing. But if I sense you're an idiot and I think it's dumb and I don't understand it, there's no chance we're going to do anything. I think that's documented. That'll come out. That's how I do business. And that might be why some of these people say terrible things anonymously about us to, you know, journalists and stuff, because I sense that they were stupid and dinosaurs and treated them as such when that never has happened before. But whenever something is pitched and I don't understand it, it's just, it's hard for me to want to jump in on it.

3:13:32But the pitch is very i mean it's like hey this is the work you got to do this the amount of money you got we've done this with these people this is the legitimate business there is this that can happen it's like you can see how you get trapped up and all that shit if it wasn't just for like uh no i don't i'm too stupid for that especially if the person's trying to get you like if the person's trying to there's a lot of good scam artists these days oh yeah a lot of good scam artists out there they got some good text messages and emails these days shout out to mcfee learn more about that later Just get the hell out of here.

3:14:03Be a friend. Tell a friend. Something nice might change your life. Tone, come on, dude. Tone, Jesus Christ. Tony! Hands down, hands down. I don't know when you guys get in a three-point stance and we're taking a delay game. It's the worst. Hold! Good to see you, Tone. Good to see you. Sick. Great hoodie. Yeah, where did you get that, man? Fanatics. They actually delivered it in two days. Okay, so maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Maybe your order goes to spam. Yeah, I checked it yesterday. Nope. They hear what you say. Oh, fanatics? Yeah. He heard you talk about him throwing a pitch. That wasn't me.

3:14:39Yeah, that must be. I ordered a Micah Parsons jersey shirt. It was like$75. Came with a huge hole in the shoulder. And I was just like, I guess I just have to wear a long-sleeved shirt underneath this. Yeah, it'll be like fashion. Yeah, it's not. It's fucking annoying. And then now the threads are coming out. So before you know what, that sleeve is going to come off. But, hey. One sleeve. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together. Great work this week, D-Bud. Thank you, brother. Great work this week, AQ. You too, brother. Anything for the group?

3:15:07Hell yeah. Army-Navy game for America on three. America on three. One, two, three. America! Goodbye!