PMS 2.0 1471 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 15 Recap, MNF Preview, Scottie Scheffler, Adam Schefter, Seahawks Kicker Jason Myers, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

19:32Adam Schefter:I don't think it'll derail them. I think they'll still finish fairly strong. The thing about them is they've kind of changed throughout the system and morphed this offensive to using a lot more tight ends, so a lot of 13 personnel, so that's only one wide receiver on the field. So now Puka can obviously be that one wide receiver, even though Devontae was that one wide receiver and 13 personnel for the majority of the season. But when you have another superstar like Puka who would still demand that coverage, still get the production, I think they will still be okay, especially with the run game and the defense.

20:00Adam Schefter:and hopefully with this soft tissue injury he can be back full goal by the playoffs. So this isn't as huge of a blow as these other injuries on this graphic.

20:09Pat McAfee:We'll stop by with Schefter here about 1240 to kind of see everything he's hearing. Devontae a little older now though. Yep. Any muscle injury obviously in theory the older you are. But he's going to hop in that immortal chamber? Yeah. Is that what's happening out there? Right now.

20:26Adam Schefter:Probably slept in there. In his game, you know, it's not like he's, you know, Christian Watson or like a burner who – He got hurt too, by the way. You know, Jameson? Yeah, Williams. A lot of injuries over there. So his game is finesse and making big-time catches, reading coverages, being that matchup in the low-red area. So I think when he is back in there full goal, he'll still be the Devontae that we know.

20:46Pat McAfee:And then obviously Patrick Mahomes is the injury that we chatted about to even start this entire injuries or dookie. I mean, this is face of the NFL. This is the man leading a dynasty right now in front of our eyes and our face. Before he was like 27 years old, he had already built up a GOAT-type legacy, a GOAT-type resume, multiple-time Super Bowl champion. Always remained a human. Everybody started hating him, obviously, because he's Patrick Mahomes. He's on top of the world. Still would have beers with the boys. Still kind of do his thing. Was trying to live his life while being under the microscope of being the guy who's leading the biggest league on earth.

21:21Pat McAfee:he put out a tweet obviously that was like hey i'll be back stronger than ever but whenever you see these types of stats you understand that we're in uh we're watching greatness happen and he said he'll be back stronger than ever don't know why this had to happen and not going to lie it hurts uh but all we can do now is trusting god and attack every single day over and over again thank you chief's kingdom for always supporting me and for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers i'll be back stronger than ever and we love that type of work ethic we love that type of mindset. That is why he is who he is.

21:52Pat McAfee:But this sucks for the league, D. Buck. This sucks for the league that we lose Patrick Mahomes. Whether you love him or you hate him, when he's on TV, he's must watch.

21:59Adam Schefter:Yeah, you want 15 playing. You want him in the playoffs. You want to see him play. I mean, it's super unfortunate, not only for this season, but we don't know how next season looks now for him or the Kansas City Chiefs. But unbelievable hit to the National Football League. It's crazy. He still has it and won't take a snap being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in his career. And that list you just put up with him having five more wins at this point in his career is ridiculous. If he's done, let's say obviously he's not done, this Chiefs, this dynasty, if this Chiefs dynasty is over like we talked about a little bit ago, that'll still go down as probably a Mount Rushmore dynasty when it comes to the NFL.

22:37Pat McAfee:I believe he's got two kids under the age of four or two right now. I mean... But he'll be back. He's got nine months until September. So that's right on time, right? He'll be back. I agree, but let's just think about the human like hey mama my homes good luck out there man yeah got a guy yeah not that you know he's mvp he's a starting quarterback in the nfl obviously a lot of time is allotted to that but now he's not gonna be able to move i mean that is uh there's a lot of stress just like whenever we're talking about joey burrow it's not just like hey in the facility it's in my life it's like hey we got humans here not just a video game so whenever you talk about everything else happening with patrick mahomes we're only uh pulling for him for the good of the league yeah Yeah, and I think, you know, like he's – I mean, he's obviously been banged up before, and I don't know about college, high school, all that kind of stuff.

23:20But, like, this is the first time he's had an injury to this magnitude. You know, same with, like, Micah. Like, those guys were all of a sudden, for the most part, you stay healthy throughout your entire career, and then you get something like this where it's like, hey, you're going to be down for nine months. Like, that – learning how to deal with something like that when you've never had to deal with it before, like, you can understand how it's quite the blow.

23:39Adam Schefter:Hey, we'll miss you, Mahomes. By far the longest break he's had. I know it's rehab and it sucks, the injuries, but, like, every season he's gone at least to the AFC Championship or the Super Bowl. So, like, that's a much shorter offseason. So now you got to – offseason starts now. And, you know, that's going to be the longest by far that he's ever had.

23:56Pat McAfee:A LeBron run. Yeah. I remember LeBron was making it to, like, the Eastern Conference Finals every year for, like, ten straight years. And then somehow shortest offseason and doing it again going forward. Patrick Mahomes had to do that. And this year he was running more than ever. A lot more. Running more than ever, hitting people more than ever. And that rarely happens as a goat's career goes forward. Normally, as the goat goes forward, the contact gets less. This year, he was running more, hitting more, getting hit more. And it's kind of crazy how it's all gone. But to your point about the rest, I mean, recovery is not rest.

24:31Pat McAfee:It sucks. What he's about to go through sucks. All these injuries, every injury you hear about, all you hear is a timetable, like, hey, nine months he'll be back. Hey, this guy should be back by the playoffs. from that point of injury to when they come back sucks. That old thing sucks. Hurts, the amount of time that it takes, the monotony of just having to do the little tiny things every single day very rarely gets talked about. We try to point it out. Patrick Mahomes' life is about to suck to get back being healthy, as is obviously Micah, as is every other injury that we see take place. So all we can say is Godspeed.

25:06Yeah, and we talked about the cap there for a second. He actually might get a pretty sweet extension, which is going to maybe kind of motivate him even more in the middle of this offseason that he can continue to work.

25:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, maybe he gets that immortal. Maybe he gets a couple of those in his backyard. Creates a lot of cap space, maybe gets a receiver, maybe one back from Miami. I don't know, just things that could happen. See, Tyreek, you okay? I was just thinking about him. I'm not getting – I don't want to get too negative about it, but like I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. Well, it's like, I don't want to say it. Joey B saying he's not having fun. It's like the way you guys built the team, we all thought you guys weren't going to be able to win, right? Like Tyreek Hill, when you took the bag to go to Miami, the thought was you're not going to win.

25:58Pat McAfee:No. That was not the thought. That was kind of the thought. No. Hey, you're leaving the dynasty to go get paid down there. You're probably not going to win as much. And then there's like, well, I want to win. It's like, well, we kind of all – we all knew that this is kind of what the case was. It's just like Max Crosby. Like, Max knows they're not going to win, right? Like, that is kind of the thing. He just continues to show up, which we massive respect. Miles Garrett, you know, if he next year says, like, I'm tired of not winning, it's like, well, we told you. You knew. You even wrote it. Yeah, you wrote it.

26:31Pat McAfee:You even wrote it. Like, you're not going to win. So it was like – Ever. There are certain situations where it's like you kind of – I don't want to say sacrificed but you did kind of acknowledge that this was not going to be kind of with each other and then it kind of all happens but once again want everybody to be happy want everybody to have cake and eat it too yeah speaking of let's go to the number two headline out of week 15 the legend of old man rivers hey phil thank you man proud of you phil i am proud of you phil i'm very proud it's not just us obviously the boys in which he coaches down there in alabama the saint michael's super-duper football team that has made back-to-back playoffs.

27:12Pat McAfee:Them watching, Uncle Phil, Coach Old Man Rivers, scores first touchdown in five years in an NFL game as he finds Josh Dines over the middle. They have an incredible lead. Wait a second, are the Indianapolis Colts and Phil Rivers all the way back? This guy fell down, got back up. He looked agile, maybe the most agile grandpa in all of football. And after the game, whenever he gave a quote that I think everybody needs to hear. I think the babyface turn for Phil Rivers was in full effect. A lot of people burying the Colts for signing Phil Rivers. Now, once again, I would like to reiterate the fact I am a Cam Newton fan.

27:48Pat McAfee:Always have been. It's because I watched him play live. I think anybody that watched Cam Newton play or had to play against Cam Newton.

27:54Adam Schefter:Yep, my teammate too. Play with him.

27:56Pat McAfee:Exactly. Says Cam Newton's allowed to say whatever he wants about football. Cam Newton is football. He can do whatever he wants. The whole thing about is Cam Newton a better quarterback than Phil Rivers is a wild conversation to have because I don't know if Cam Newton just knows the entire Shane Steichen offense, which week 15 in the middle of a playoff run, I don't know if it's the right time to put somebody in that doesn't know the offense. Now, was Riley Leonard, who's been in the building all year, who's very athletic, was he a better option than Phil Rivers? I think that argument is certainly viable, but somebody that doesn't know the offense coming in in the middle of what the Colts are thinking and hoping is a playoff run doesn't seem sound to me.

28:32Pat McAfee:it sounds like you live in a video game world as opposed to real life world where you don't just drop into a building and then download the offense and then you're on the same page as everybody so that you can operate a football team efficiently matt ryan and the colts had problems for his entire time because he couldn't learn the offense or the verbiage and then the offensive line couldn't and it was an absolute catastrophe so bringing in phil rivers felt like a move the colts were like hey we're not giving up on the year and we need somebody that's able to fucking do our offense and do our things and also somebody that commands a little bit of respect you know defense offense special teams everybody in the building like hey we like that guy and also a guy who happens to be doing something from a coaching standpoint that is incredibly inspirational listen to this quote from the post game from phil rivers um hopefully you know certainly i think of my sons and those ball players you know that i'm in charge of at the school uh that they'll say like crap coach wasn't scared you know i mean it's like shoot sometimes you uh there is doubt and it's real and um you uh again you can you can the the guaranteed safe bet is to is to go home or to not go for it and the other one is shoot let's see what happens uh you know and so uh yeah i hope that in that sense that it can it can be a positive to to some young boys you know or young people, not just me boys.

29:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was, Phil. Anybody can do nothing as the legend Ted Williams said. And then him going on there, go for it. And the boys seeing it, his kids seeing it. And also all of us getting a chance to see that. It was a special thing, a beautiful thing. And almost won it. Blake Groupie. It's a 60-yard field goal with less than a minute left to put the Colts in the lead. That's the longest field goal in the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Blake Groupie, this big. This guy is a monster. Groupie, shout out to you coming back to the state of Indiana and making a big-time kick for us. He walked right on the field, too.

30:28Pat McAfee:There's no question. It was fourth down, and there was probably a little bit of an indecisiveness, fourth and three. What are we going to do? Groupie just walked his ass onto the field. Shane Syken saw it and had to go, well, daggummit, I guess we're going for this field goal. He puts it through. Sam Darnold gets a big return from their special teams. Then they make a couple plays. And then Jason Myers puts his sixth field goal through the uprights. And the Seahawks beat the Colts 18-16. But the story for me coming out of this is not only the Seahawks are a damn good football team, and Jason Myers is unbelievable.

31:00Pat McAfee:He leads the league in field goals made this year. He's going to be all pro and a pro bowler. He's a special talent out there for Seattle. But also, the Indianapolis Colts didn't give up. They showed up. And Phil Rivers, obviously, the arm isn't what it used to be. Made a couple big throws whenever we had to. And they protected his ass. and his messaging about, you know, you're allowed to go for it in this life if you could ask something was special. I'll remember yesterday for a long time.

31:23Adam Schefter:Yeah, man, I really, really wanted the win, obviously, for a ton of reasons. But Phil, for him to go out, it's something that I know I've never seen before. Somebody take five years off and then actually come out there and have to play. And he was in full control. Like the first drive, he was up, you know, checking with seven, you know, eight seconds on the clock, you know, changing plays. Obviously, his arm, it was what I expected, I guess, to see from his arm. wasn't dropping down the field a ton, but he made plays, and he had us in position to win a game in a hostile environment against a very good football team.

31:53Adam Schefter:So I'm encouraged for him, and I think this definitely gives us the best chance to compete going forward with all the available quarterbacks that are out there right now.

32:00Pat McAfee:You talk about a very good football team. Let's just talk about the number one headline coming out of Week 15 in our eyes. The NFC West is the NFL's best. This group out here is outrageous. Seattle Seahawks, obviously not on their home field advantage. This dude, no laces, sick, looks so cool. This dude, very good at football. McDonald's defense, unbelievable. A lot of people are saying you needed a 50-some yard field goal to beat the Indianapolis Colts who are playing Phil Rivers. Colts are a good football team. Colts are a good football team. Anfield knows everything that's going on. The Los Angeles Rams, outrageous.

32:32Pat McAfee:Matthew Stafford had an MVP-like year. And then the San Francisco 49ers, Brock Burry's doing his dance. Oh, yeah. Brock Burry's pump faking 20 yards down the field. San Francisco 49ers obviously beat the Tennessee Titans. Everybody's doing that. But this Niners team with Christian McCaffrey, with Brock Purdy, even though they're without Warner and Bosa on the defensive side, it's like, are the Niners going to make a run at the Super Bowl? It feels like everybody but the Cardinals and the NFC West can do that. And this has happened in the past. Whenever the NFC West has been absolutely dominant, they have shown up as a Super Bowl champion.

33:03Yeah, 2021, the 4-5-6 seeds were the Rams, Cardinals, and San Francisco 49ers. So it is one of those things where you would think, okay, maybe the division will cannibalize itself, but rather instead the best of the best, the team that won the division, the Rams, ended up going on that Super Bowl run and winning the Super Bowl against the Bengals.

33:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, so there's a chance here that the NFC West does it again. And I would say as a Colts team that had to play Seahawks this past weekend and we've got the Niners on Monday Night Football, we're going to find out if this NFC West is for real. Feels like the NFC West is problematic. AFC West, also very good at the football. AFC East has a couple teams at the top with one lurking in the Miami Dolphins. AFC North, everybody considers that to be the trashiest division in ball. The AFC South, the Jacksonville Jaguars in the league. Congrats down there in Duval. And Texans are also problematic, number one defense in the NFL.

34:01Pat McAfee:Texans actually have better odds to win the Super Bowl than the Jaguars do right now. That's because I think the Texans' defense is number one in the league. And I don't know if everybody believes in Trevor Lawrence, even though he goes for six touchdowns yesterday, five through the sky. They are for real. NFC North, things have changed now with some injuries. And then the NFC South, who's going to punch their ticket to the playoffs is really the entire question. So that's top five headlines coming out of the NFL. Now let's talk about a headline that we're about to create in another sport that we absolutely love.

34:31Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the greatest golfer on earth. Said that weird. the greatest golfer on earth ladies and gentlemen scotty scheffler scotty how are you buddy all good how you guys doing dude amazing great to see you how's life you look good you look clean you look young you look like you're uh rejuvenated how's life for scotty scheffler right now yeah life is good yeah clean shaven this morning um doing well enjoying some enjoying some time at home um but get ready you know gearing back up for the the season to start in January. I don't want to be, you know, just bring up negative things.

35:08Pat McAfee:Texas, not in a college football playoff. Dallas Cowboys eliminated from the playoffs. Okay. I don't want to say football didn't show up for you this year, but you show up for everybody every time you get on a course. And we have the distinct honor to tell you, I believe it's a surprise, even though you should probably already expect this to come. Congratulations, man. You have been named the Jack Nicklaus Award winner for the best PGA Tour player voted on by your peers for the fourth consecutive time. You're the first person to win it four consecutive times since Tiger Woods. Can you please tell me a little bit about the Jack Nicklaus Award and what this means to you whenever it's voted on by your peers as opposed to maybe outside of golf?

35:51Yeah, I mean, that's really cool. I definitely did not expect that coming on here today. But, you know, it's a cool honor. it's when you're able to receive the vote of your peers i think that's something that's really special you know that means a lot to me is the guys i'm playing against week in week out to for them to vote for me to be player of the year something that's really special and that really does it means a lot to me um tough to put into words what it's like to to win it for the fourth time i definitely never imagined that um but it was a great season i was i was hoping to be able to win the award again and so i'm you know very fortunate to receive the vote of my peers and um Yeah, it's pretty exciting.

36:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, it feels like they put the C on your chest. You know, that's kind of what this feels like. I know you guys aren't a team or anything like that, but it feels like you've been voted by your peers to be the one. And anytime we see you playing, you're must-watch television. But this past season, it felt like, I don't know, and if you have, let me know. If you start smoking weed, I would like to smoke weed with you. But it did feel like there was a time last year you started, like, being a little bit more comfortable with being the face of the sport, maybe being the face of the PGA. I think back to, you know, whenever you gave your full answer, very transparent about like, what is this all for?

37:04Pat McAfee:Like, what is this whole thing? And then I think when you were giving answers, you started being a little bit more open than maybe in years past. It felt like you were, I don't want to say too humble on a microphone, but it did feel like you didn't really want to be a voice. You more so wanted to just be a player. Have you felt like, hey, I'm the face of a sport. I should talk a little bit more. Or have you just gotten more comfortable with the situation you're in? And I don't know if that question makes sense or if you are smoking weed or not still. Definitely not. Definitely not smoking weed.

37:33Pat McAfee:OK, but if you do, I would like to do that with you and on a golf course.

37:39No, I mean, that's a good question. I think I think the amount of time I've been put in front of a microphone over the last couple of years has been a lot more than the years before that. And so I think just being in the spotlight, having to do press conferences each week, stuff like that, I think I'm just in front of a microphone more. And so I think even the guys in the media will get tired of asking me the same questions because I'm going to give them the same answers. Most of the answers don't change that much. And so every now and then I'll get an interesting question and I'll try and elaborate on something.

38:09But I definitely don't think of myself as the face of the sport or anything like that. You know, I'm just trying to be myself. I love playing golf. I love being able to compete. And that's what I love to do. And hopefully I'll be able to do it for a long time. But for the time being, I'm going to enjoy it. And then, yeah, when I get asked a question, I try to answer it as honestly as possible. But outside of that, I don't really think about it too much.

38:31Pat McAfee:All right. Well, you are the face of the sport. And we're lucky as hell that that is the case. And with how much you play, we're very thankful. And the PGA is certainly thankful as well. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Scotty, obviously winning this four straight times, you have done a lot already in your career. So when you come into seasons now, Do you continue to have goals to, in your mind, have a successful season? And is one of those goals this year potentially to get your career grand slam at the U.S. Open at Shinnecock, I believe, is where it's at? Yeah, I would say that going into years and going, when you look at my career, or when I look at my career, I have what I would call dreams and aspirations, but I'm not one of those guys that sits out at the beginning of the year and says, Hey, I want to be, I want to have four wins at the end of the year.

39:13I want to be top 10 in a certain category or anything like that. I try to get the most out of myself each day. And I think when you're preparing to go out and play, the majors are always in the back of your head. I think those are the tournaments that mean the most to us as players. But at the end of the day, when I'm at home practicing, I'm just trying to focus on the things that I can focus on and get prepared to go out and play. The thing that is most important to me is my preparation. I want to be able to stand up on the first tee and tell myself I did every last thing that I could do in order to play well.

39:42and now it's time to go out and compete. So sometimes it feels as almost as if my preparation and my practice can be more stressful than going out and playing. Going out and playing sometimes can almost be more freeing just because I feel like when I'm at home, you know, that's when the real work is done.

39:57Pat McAfee:Hey, that's how all the goats talk, by the way. Practice is supposed to be harder than the game because you need to be comfortable and confident whenever it's time for the game. And it feels like obviously there's no situation on a course that you haven't been fully prepared for. where people talk about your spin, your distance control, all these other things. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, speaking of all that, Scotty, when you go into the offseason, because I think people who they watch you week over week, a lot of times it'll be like, oh, Scotty had a C game this weekend and he still got a top five.

40:25And then when you have your A game, you're a Terminator and no one can touch you. Is there anything going into the offseason where you said, hey, I specifically need to get better with my wedges or with my woods? Or is that not really how you approach, you know, when you practice in the offseason? That's a good question. I always have in the offseason, I always have one sort of point of emphasis that I'm looking at. And so depending on the seasons, you know, some years it's been I want to get stronger in the gym. Some years it's been I want to improve my diet. Other years it's been my putting or creating more shots going into the green.

41:00I always have kind of that one area that I really put an extra emphasis on. but I'm always trying to work on all aspects of the game. I mean, golf's one of those games where you're trying to perfect a game that is impossible to perfect. And no matter what, you can always be trying to get better. But I've never really been the guy that has completely revamped his swing or completely changed something. I think in our game, we're always just looking for those small incremental improvements and doing those little things in order to improve. And the margins out on tour, I feel like, are so small these days.

41:29You've got guys that have so much talent and are so highly competitive, You're always just looking for that little bit of an edge.

41:35Pat McAfee:What was the point of emphasis this offseason, if you don't mind telling us? Kind of getting my strength back and my body back where it needs to be. You know, last offseason with the hand injury kind of set me back a little bit. And going into the year, I felt like I battled a little bit more staying healthy than I would have liked to. And so going into this offseason, I was trying to get back in the gym, do a lot more recovery stuff than I would normally do, and really try and get some of that inflammation out of my body and continue to get stronger. Oh, are we going to be wearing skin-tight clothes?

42:03No, no, no.

42:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, let's get the rim. Let's get six back out there. Yeah, let's go. I mean, it's funny. Like, you want to get stronger, but you also don't want to completely change the fabric of the things that I've done. You know, it's like if in golf, it's such a fine line between, you know, trying to improve but also not kind of removing that DNA. And so my body's been a certain way for the last four or five years. I don't want to drastically change that, but I want to continue to get healthier. I want to make sure that I'm putting myself in a position where I can try and play this game for a long time.

42:32And, you know, that's kind of been the focus this offseason, especially the last month or so.

42:37Pat McAfee:Brother, I completely understand. I ate and drank terribly for a long time. It got me into the NFL, though. Yeah. Got me into the NFL. So then in the offseason, I'm like, I feel like I shouldn't be this fat. This can't be good. But then I'm like, but this is what got me here. Let's not change. Let's not broker. Let's not fix what's not broker or whatever. And then I realized once I got into shape, turns out you do get better. And, you know, those things. So, you know, I can appreciate the fact of, like, wanting to change, but we can't get rid of what we already have. On that note, it feels like every time you were golfing, all I would hear the commentators say is, like, this guy's ass at putting, too.

43:13Pat McAfee:Like, wait until he's able to putt and do his thing. Go ahead, D-Butt.

43:17Adam Schefter:Yeah, being the number one golfer in the world, how tough was it to make that switch, I guess, from your traditional blade to a mallet putter, and even the grip? Like, how difficult was that to make that change when you're already on top of the game? Yeah, I felt like, so the year I'd struggled pretty, you know, a good amount on the greens was 2023. And at the end of 2023, I felt like I needed to make a change. We were coming home from the Tour Championship, and I decided to hire a putting coach, Phil Kenyon. And so Phil came in a few days later from the UK. He flew right in, and we got some work in before the Ryder Cup in 2023.

43:54And made some changes, immediately saw some benefits early in the year, the next year, And then in 2024, I had a great season. You know, we saw some small improvements at the beginning of the year with some technique stuff. And then going into, I think it was Bay Hill in 2024, we had looked at a bunch of different putters and a bunch of different options and ended up going with just a generic spider putter. And I went into Bay Hill, just wanted to give it a proper test. You know, before in the past, when I had made changes with my putting, it was like if I tried it for one week and it didn't work, I'll just move on to the next thing.

44:28and that wasn't really a good way to get better you know you needed to really give it a chance and I had a lot of confidence in Phil and the stuff we were working on and I had a great week that week and so after I think I won Bay Hill and then after winning Bay Hill I'm like well I can't can't switch putters now and so I used it again the next week and then I had a lot of success that year and then going into the offseason 2024 Phil had almost built up a little bit of a rapport with me I trusted him after a full year of work and the claw was something that he had wanted me to try since the beginning.

44:58But, I mean, really, I just had to work with him enough, didn't really trust him enough to make such a drastic change. And, you know, we tested that out in the Bahamas last year, and it went really well. And I felt like I could improve my putting inside 15 feet. And, you know, that's the results that we saw in 2025. It was a big improvement in my putting from that distance. And, yeah, right now we're in a really good spot. So we're staying with it? Staying with it, yeah.

45:23Pat McAfee:I like that. And I appreciate the fact that you said this guy's from the U.K. I don't know if I need to just be buying into everything he's saying. He's going to have to earn it. On that note, go ahead, Conme. Yeah, Scotty, I'm more of a casual golf fan, and the United States losing to England and the world, basically, and the Ryder Cup essentially broke me as a golf fan. Are we going to win the Ryder Cup, or are we just going to dick around every time it comes around? Because, you know, it's basically caused me not to, you know, have too many sleepful nights because of this. Sleep less or sleep full nights?

45:53Both. Both. Take your pick. It's a nightmare. No pun intended. Yeah, the plan is definitely to win the Ryder Cup. I think New York was this for all of us. But that's one of the things I always hang my hat on, the preparation. And I stepped up on the first tee at Bethpage, and I had done quite literally every last thing that I could possibly do in order to play well. And it just wasn't in the cards that week. We put up a great fight on Sunday, and hopefully we'll use that momentum going into 20, gosh, what year is it going to be, 2027 Ryder Cup? Yep. It's going to be a long wait, but we're going to continue to be prepared.

46:30I think our team's in a good spot. I felt like we learned a lot at Metpige, and I think it puts us in a good position going forward.

46:36Pat McAfee:You're the man. Congrats on the fourth consecutive Jack Nicklaus Award for Player of the Year voted on by your peers at the PGA for last PGA season. January 15th, I believe we have an event coming up that you're going to go claw your ass through all the different greens, and we appreciate your service to sport, man. You're a great one. well thanks thanks guys appreciate y 'all having me on hey let's stay out of jail yes sir stay out of the kitchen yeah amen amen you're right with the hand yeah i forgot about that ladies and gentlemen scotty scheffler congrats to him that was cool he's the best yeah pj every child like would you like to surprise uh scotty scheffler with his fourth consecutive jack nicholas award it's like uh we get to talk scotty scheffler please yeah we will We need to happen on Monday.

47:25Pat McAfee:It's like overreaction Monday. That's a lot of time. Scotty Scheffler. Yep. No problem at all. We're very appreciative of him. Now, joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has more information on all the very important things that have happened around the NFL. Okay. Senior NFL insider for ESPN Michigan man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Hey! Schefter. What is going on, Matt? I don't know if you tweeted it or not. Breaking news. Scotty Scheffler, Jack Nicklaus, Player of the Year award winner by his peers in the PGA. congrats Sam let's get right to the massive news happening around the NFL though injuries obviously can derail entire seasons let alone what it does for the players have some massive ones yesterday any updates on any of those and what what should we be thinking about some of these teams that suffered devastation losses at key positions well Mahomes obviously took the test last night so that came back he's got the torn ACL which is just terrible you have to wonder again how long it'll keep him out now how much damage was done they'll go into the knee hopefully it's just his ACL we'll see if there's any other damage in there as well but obviously the start of his season next year obviously has to be in question right now hopefully he can make it back he's built differently he does things that nobody else does and has done that physically before and hopefully that's the case right now Now, Micah, they'll do an MRI, but it's going to be a torn ACL.

48:50I mean, you could see the moment he did it, when it happened, that the leg bent the way it shouldn't have. He reached right down. I mean, it was all there. Like, you're watching, you know. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've seen enough of these now. You know when somebody seriously hurt. Now, every now and then there's a surprise, and the guy's not. But in this particular case, it's a devastating injury. and after the game, Matt LeFleur acknowledged it didn't look good. They know what they know right now. I mean, it's not hard.

49:19Pat McAfee:Let's stay with the Packers. Obviously, Micah comes in, becomes a closer, does something that no NFL player has done, gets 12 sacks in his first five years, entering his prime, obviously huge for that half-league defense. He wasn't the only one that got hurt for the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay Packers suffered a lot of injuries yesterday. Who will? Yeah, Christian Watson, Zach Tom, the right tackle, and Evan Williams, one of their starting safeties. Any updates on any of those out of Green Bay, Shefty? Christian Watson's father tweeted last night that his son was fine. So it seems like he's okay.

49:50Now, what's fine is that he misses a game. Fine is all relative, but he was sent to the hospital. He was allowed to leave the hospital. He was allowed to go home with the team. His father says he's fine. So all the signs obviously are encouraging for Christian Watson. Zach Tom and Evan Williams I don't have specific updates on. They were checked. They were ruled out early on, so that's not great. But, you know, here's a team that already was missing. Elton Jenkins was missing Devontae Wyatt. It was missing Tucker Craft. And I thought Rex Ryan made a great point this morning. He's like, this feels and looks a lot like the Lions last year, where they're the best team in the division.

50:30They're going to be a force in the playoffs. They'll still make the playoffs, but you can only withstand the loss of so many great players before it does impact you. in some type of way. So I know Ty's disappointed by that, but the fact of the matter is just not the same team. It's a good team. It's a playoff team, but I don't know that it's a Super Bowl team right now the way that it could have been if all these guys were healthy.

50:53Pat McAfee:Agreed. It's part of the game that everybody has to deal with. There's a 100 % chance of injuries happening to your team. You just got to hope that it's not pillar players or game wreckers, which certainly has happened here to the Green Bay Packers amongst others. You mentioned the Lions right there. They just got bullied by the Los Angeles Rams. Rams lose their touchdown maker while running a go-route in Devontae Adams. Sniper gets a hamstring, obviously 34 years old. The thought is he'll be back. Is that kind of what we're all hoping for at this point? Well, he'll be back, but when is he back?

51:24And just a guess, right, it's a hamstring injury. He's battled hamstrings this year. They're playing for the one seed. I mean, he's not going to play Thursday night in Seattle. That would be shocking to me. so then the question is how much time he misses Sean McVale updated later today he acknowledged yesterday it didn't look good my guess and just a guess is we'll see him in the playoffs that's just a guess like this team can get by the rest of the regular season and give him the time he needs then and then when it matters really matters for this team you have Devontae Adams back then that's my guess

51:56Pat McAfee:so those are the big injuries around the NFL we'll continue to follow your X account to get more updates throughout the day as test results come back. You know, it's the end of something special. You know, a 10-year decade, which is a decade, obviously, of dominance. Is this a dynasty delayed or deleted? There's obviously going to be some change going forward for the Chiefs. Go ahead, Khan, man. Yeah, Shafty, with the Chiefs and with what, you know, Travis Kelsey has said over the past couple of weeks and just the vibes in general, especially when you think about their cap situation next year for the Kansas City, is it safe to say that at least Travis Kelsey might be done after this year and that he is considering retiring or are you not there yet with Kelsey no no I I think people have kind of felt that all along and we'll see what he ultimately decides at the end of the year but I think his contract's up with Kansas City this year I think he's got like an 18 or 19 million dollar cap number they'd have to redo a deal he's always talked about wanting to keep playing but there are so many opportunities out there for him he's in a new phase in his life obviously i'm gonna guess he makes more money as a podcaster than a tight end like the guy is incredibly successful so i i think his future is very much up in the air i think it's distinctly possible that one of the greatest nfl connections of all time patrick holmes and travis kelsey may have played their last down together like we may not see that combination of people again which is hard to imagine but certainly that's a real possibility here generational combination yeah those two and certainly something that we could never see again but we'll always remember the great times i mean i mean they were god they were so good i can't wait all the time and for travis whatever the hell you end up doing brother we love it we support it to patrick mahomes godspeed on the recovery now there was something that happened yesterday that they're going to make a disney

53:47Adam Schefter:movie from go ahead dbo speaking of things we thought we'd never see again philip rivers is out there spinning it gave us a chance to compete uh no anthony richards coming off ir we still got the young guy and what's the plan what's the what are the coach plans going forward is philip rivers going to be the guy going forward down to make this stretch maybe a playoff push i think he will and came very close to winning in seattle in a game that a lot of people thought not only should he not be playing but that they'd have no chance of winning and if they had run off more clock they might have won the game like they distinguished themselves very well in seattle yesterday and Philip was definitely not the issue.

54:23He stepped in right then and there. Like, I mean, it's hard to imagine where I'm pointing to see it. Micah Parsons is done. Patrick Mahomes is done. And Philip Rivers is starting in Indianapolis. Like, it's bizarro world, but that's the world we're living in right now, where their playoff push is up to him. And he played well yesterday. I mean, that was not the issue. He knew exactly what to do. You know, speaking to the Colts over the weekend, like, how are you going to get by in Seattle, in that noise, 12-man, That defense, they knew exactly what they were doing, and they trusted Phillip to know exactly what he was doing, and he went out there and executed the offense pretty well.

55:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think pretty well would be good. Now, he only went for like 120 years under hit over your pass yards, which I certainly don't love. Last question here for you about tonight. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shefty, obviously a big one in Pittsburgh tonight. Can you fill us in on some injuries? I know A-chan was banged up last week for the Dolphins. Jalen Warren had a sickness potentially today. Derek Harmon, and then obviously TJ Watt, do you have anything on his future? You know, the Watt thing, you're talking about a partially punctured lung, collapsed lung. He's a crazy guy and he'll be back soon.

55:37You can ask JJ on the show. He likes to get the TJ Watt updates, but I would think that to me, look, he's out tonight. I'd be surprised if he'd play again next week. Typically, these things would be multi-week injuries, but again, he's also built differently, so we'll see if he can make it back sooner. Jalen Warren, they added to the injury report today, questionable. Teams like to do that out of precaution. I still think that they believe he'll wind up playing. Hopefully, he'll be out there tonight. DK Metcalf was on the injury report. He'll be back out there tonight. Who else do we have here?

56:09Pat McAfee:HN and M. HN's playing. They say, the Dolphins say, he's full go. It was limited some in practice, but they felt like he could have come back to the game last week and he's ready to rock and roll tonight. We appreciate the hell out of you, Sheff. We watch you all day. We'll follow you all day. Had a tough one the other week, but we appreciate the hell out of you this week. You're the man. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Have a great week. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Sheff there. Not a bad first hour. No, not a great first hour. I mean, that was very fast. I know Shohei Otani coming through a pole skiing.

56:44Adam Schefter:Top five. We got through the top five. Had to.

56:46Pat McAfee:Scotty Sheff for breaking news. We actually held that up three minutes. The PGA was waiting to send a press release as we were wrapping up the NFC West being the NFL's best. But how could you not talk about the Seahawks, the Rams, and the Niners?

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58:08Pat McAfee:Football is the best. I mean, we just take it in for a second. It's the absolute best. So much to talk about. So many lives changed. So many legendary tales about to be told as we get through meaningful football time into playoff football season, which don't look now. College football playoffs start at the end of this particular week. Oh, man. Holy hell. Bama, Oklahoma on Friday. Texas A &M, Miami on Saturday. We'll be on the sideline for that particular game on ESPN2. Cannot wait to be a part of that magic. And then Tulane, Ole Miss, JMU, Oregon. And don't look now, Oregon and Ole Miss, okay?

58:49Pat McAfee:Everybody's been talking about these group of five champions not deserving to be in the 12-team playoff, not deserving to take a spot that maybe Notre Dame could have had. Everybody's fighting about Notre Dame, Alabama, or Miami. And what we should be talking about is Tulane and JMU are in the big boy dance. Well, Tulane, JMU, you can change the trajectory of college ball, get a massive win, put up some good fight, and maybe the future won't be changed. But if Ole Miss dog walks Tulane, and Oregon smacks James Madison, I don't know if these group of five champions are going to be even looked at going forward.

59:28Pat McAfee:I think there's going to be clauses added and amendments made to what the playoffs look like in the future. So there's a lot on the line for college football this weekend. And obviously the NFL wraps up its Week 15 slate tonight. Monday Night Football in the city of Pittsburgh as the Miami Dolphins and Tua travel north in the cold to take on Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers can obviously still win the AFC North and make it to the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens just absolutely demolished the Cincinnati Bengals yesterday. So there will be a representative from the AFC North in the playoffs.

1:00:01Pat McAfee:Will it be the Steelers? Will it be the Ravens? Or will the Miami Dolphins, who are still lurking in the background, to steal a wild card spot in the AFC, do something special tonight in the cold, something that they haven't been able to do with Tua as the quarterback? The Pittsburgh Steelers have an incredible record in certain situations. They have a terrible record in other situations, like when they don't have T.J. Watt. T.J. Watt will not be playing football tonight. Tua has a good record in some situations and a terrible record in other situations like when it's freezing cold. Something's got to give tonight.

1:00:43Pat McAfee:What will it be? Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long, long of the long. Will Yenzers be booing that as they spend another night downtown watching a shitty football team? Or will they be losing their minds as the Pittsburgh Steelers pick up a huge win in what could be a magical season with a run to the playoffs? The toxic table's here at Boston Conner. Sorry, buddy. Hey, sorry to you too, man. 21-zip, you guys were up. We were up too, 10 points at least against the Seahawks. Now, granted, I think a little different situation between our teams, but on that note, I don't think it's that bad of a loss.

1:01:25Pat McAfee:I think New England Patriots lose to a very good Josh Allen and Buffalo Beals. That could potentially traject them into a way where they change their perspective on what this season could be. And Vrabel is going to utilize the hell out of that as a coaching point. And then at Ty Schmidt, I'm sorry, buddy. What happened, man? Yeah, the Packers were also up by nine points. Not ten, but they were up nine. And then Micah blowing his knee out. Well, it was kind of just the cherry on top of a pretty shitty Sunday. I'm sorry, man. You know, it just, it happens. Best life in the NFL, unfortunately. Denver Broncos are for real.

1:01:57They are good. Bo Nix played his best game as an NFL player on Sunday.

1:02:01Pat McAfee:And maybe this will be a sign of things to come for the Denver Broncos offense. Obviously, Halfley's defense we've been very impressed with. The Denver Broncos defense we've been incredibly impressed with. They show up in a big way in the second half. And Toyota-thon became Ram Truck Week for Jordan Love in the second half. And I don't want to point things out, okay, because I don't like to do this to give myself an old pat on the back as maybe others would do. But on Friday, as we were talking about this particular game, my brain, in the middle of the conversation, interjected a highlight. Well, a lowlight, I guess, of Jordan Love running backwards and throwing it up.

1:02:31Pat McAfee:And this is the Denver Broncos defense. Obviously, they're going to get one. They get two, actually, in the second half. They do their thing with that defense. With Bo Nix potentially playing his best ball right now, Denver Broncos are for real. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP tone. How did the gamblers do this week? How do we do against the sportsbooks who are obviously so incredibly greedy and winning all the time? Yeah, as you remember, we started off 0-1 on Thursday night, thanks to the Bucs in that situation, and then went 5-5 yesterday. So for the weekend, we were 5-6 on teams that were getting 60 % or more of the bets.

1:03:08Another losing weekend for the fans.

1:03:10Pat McAfee:Golly! Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, are we ever going to beat these pieces of trash?

1:03:15Adam Schefter:I don't want to be negative, and I'm kind of out on AI. So I think, yeah, we'll get them. We'll get them. We'll figure them out. What do you mean you're out on AI? I'm kind of out right now. I'm getting a lot of bad answers. They give you bad intel. Well, that's your fault. You give the correct prompts, yeah. Okay, I got to work on better prompts? Yeah. I'm kind of out on them.

1:03:30Pat McAfee:Okay, so I haven't done the full dive-in for AI every single day. We'll send questions to Mr. GPT or Mrs. GPT or they GPT. I don't know. Honestly, I have no idea how chat GPT identifies.

1:03:42Adam Schefter:Ask. Well, it's actually multiple. You can choose. You can choose a woman. You can choose a man. You can choose a snarky.

1:03:47Pat McAfee:you can choose something you can choose different ones the plural one is tough for me whenever it's an individual character just because of how into english language works and everything like that but chat gpt i've sent a question in there once in a while i also asked them to make me a 3d design of a room here's the specs i'll answer all the questions i'm still waiting for it i think i got a lazy ass oh no i think the one in my phone which i paid the upgrade to have the top one because i I wanted a 3D fucking print like I see on, what's that one where they're down in Mongolia Farms, Magnolia Farms.

1:04:19Pat McAfee:Chuck and Joanna. Yeah, Chuck and Joanna Gaines, where they have a full 3D. Those are really nice. That's what I asked ChatGPT. I said, I want a Chip and Joanna Gaines 3D surround image of what this room could look like. Had me answer 20 minutes worth of questions. He said, I'll get that for you. That was two weeks ago. Wow. It's like fanatics still just waiting on this thing to show up. So I have the lost hope in it as well, but I never really bought in. You were chat GPT braining there for a while. I mean, it was every thought you were having. Took a course on AI. I did. You got certified.

1:04:49Adam Schefter:Thank you, IBM. It was a pretty good course. That was awesome, though. That's partly probably why I'm out on it. I think it's just we're still very early on in the adaptation. And sometimes you've got to ask them questions, and they'll be like, hey, can you double-check that? Can you triple-check? But they'll do it and come back and give you some. So I don't like that. You were an early adopter. Yeah, I can just do it myself. Yeah, what are we asking you to double-check?

1:05:09Pat McAfee:Exactly. That's what we came to you for. Exactly. We are doing a double check by it.

1:05:12Adam Schefter:Mm-hmm.

1:05:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. We're asking you.

1:05:15Adam Schefter:They'll just spit it out. Boom.

1:05:17Pat McAfee:And let's not even talk about Grok whenever Grok just finds his time. You know what? Yeah, actually. I'm going to do it. What was ChatGPT saying about Saturday night's main event?

1:05:29Adam Schefter:I didn't get into that. Did D-Bone get into it?

1:05:32Pat McAfee:Because if Bone was involved. I'll tell you what. Bone is not happy. No, he's not. John Cena was at peace. Yeah, he was. Smile on his face as he tapped out of the greatest wrestling career of all time. I went down the same way, and I texted John immediately afterwards. I should have given him a heads up that this is what Gunther's going to try to do. This happened to me from Gunther. Obviously, I should have told John, hey, he's looking to do the— That's what he's trying to do. And whenever he wraps those big Austrian legs around you like a boa constrictor, it's going to be tough to get out. Tyrese Halliburton brokenhearted.

1:06:07Pat McAfee:obviously everybody in dc there i mean it's just shocked yeah gunther took him out gunther's in the middle of his prime gunther didn't care about the whole celebration gunther gets a tap out victory over john cena and sorry salverton have you checked on him i have i texted him a couple times because he was sitting right behind michael cole front row real mark he said true mark he gave a couple hashtags to himself in the group text which i appreciate but he was there and that's not what he expected now a lot of people would say maybe cena wins that one well maybe he should have then. Maybe he should have won.

1:06:39Pat McAfee:Maybe he should have won out there and won, but the George team was a little lonely. He was ready. When I send you this, just know I know it's over and I know it's time to go. Bang, bang, bang. I should have gave him a heads up when he was here. I feel like that was a missed opportunity. That was my text to Mr. Cena immediately after watching the finale. I'm sorry I should have told you that that's what he's going to be trying to do and i assume seeing a watch film he's always going to be prepared but him losing certainly made people not happy now the international wrestling marks i believe are like this is what wrestling's supposed to be but i think a lot of cena fans are like is it does it always have to be like that it's not is that what it has to be all the time it was poetic or can it potentially you know be something that's magical i do appreciate him taking off his shoes i do appreciate taking off the headband that he's worn around his bicep for the last 20 years because his pythons brother are so big.

1:07:38Pat McAfee:His wristbands were different than the ones he wore in here. They were actually switched and he said that we were going to have the actual ones. Feels like we were lied to just a little bit by Mr. Hustle Loyalty Respect. So maybe this might be a collector's item. That's a one of one. Might be a collector's item now which we're very appreciative of. Hell of a run though, John. We appreciate it. I assume this did big numbers. I assume it did gigantic numbers. I'm being serious. It felt like everybody on earth was talking about. And I think that's what, you know, Foxy and I were talking about this a little bit before the show.

1:08:10That's why I was kind of pissed off. Because like you said, hey, listen, you got to respect the business and all that kind of stuff. But you had this match in particular, there were a bunch of people who don't give two shits about wrestling that were watching this. And it would have been cool just to see Cena beat the piss out of Gunther and go out on top.

1:08:29Pat McAfee:I do wonder if Cena had a plan for after the match, what he was going to do, and then whenever that gets changed immediately as the entire roster comes out to say thank you and honor him. And then CM Punk and Cody Rhodes, two guys that Cena obviously gets along with very well and was a massive part of their entire story, say, hey, these are our titles, but they're really yours because you're the one that created them and made them to be as important as they are. Cena didn't want to do that. It was very obvious that Cena didn't want to wear titles that he did not win over his shoulders because even though whenever he was heel, he wanted to ruin the business and everything like that, he loves the business and he tried multiple times.

1:09:03Pat McAfee:Hey, This is your title. It is not my title. And they're like, no, you're the one that made them the title. So please do the thing. And he goes, all right, I was going to do something, but I guess once again, I have to do what you guys want me to do. Here we go. Thank you. Thank you. No, you got to go to the other one, please. Please. You really want me to do this? Yeah, do it. Please. How about you? And then Cena's like, you know what? Professional wrestler. I think that could be a little bit louder than his son. I think he had a plan potentially on how it was going to go after the match. Obviously, that changes when everybody wants to come out and pay their respects, including Mr.

1:09:39Pat McAfee:H, who got a very warm ovation from the entire crowd. And then now tonight, 8 o 'clock on Netflix, they have the opportunity to do some real special stuff with the outcome and the fallout of everything that happened on Saturday. We'd like to say to Mr. Hustle, loyalty, respect, we appreciate you coming through the Thunderdome. We appreciate your service to sport. And beat the hell out of your body for the good and for the entertainment of everybody else. You're the man, John, even though you didn't win. You're still a winner in our eyes. And Elias was there. It was good to see him. All the stars came out.

1:10:10Pat McAfee:Joining us now live from Manatic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, and Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, AJ Hawker. Hawker, how you doing, buddy? Man, it's tough to see John go out like that, but obviously a very, very humble champ. I don't think there ever will be anyone like him again. Yeah, and John Cena said multiple times on Friday, this is it so make sure you get closure because for me i'm leaving it all out there and it's over and i know you can only judge off of what previous wrestlers have done whenever they said they're retired and maybe it'll change going forward with me but this is this is it this is the final time right here he's taking it all in one last time let me go ahead and just polaroid this for my own brain so i can remember what it was like as i walk out of my final match ever he says i bid you adieu shout out to Stu and then walks his ass out of there for the final time in the WWE he will now be an ambassador for the WWE not 100 % sure what that means but no don't thank us we thank you brother you're the best Cena and I think he could have won that match I don't think necessarily had to lose but John Cena you saw that joke he can't breathe well I think he could have won if he could have won you know and maybe one more five-knuckle shuffle.

1:11:30Pat McAfee:Are you saying he threw the bench? No, I'm just saying there at the end when he was smiling and just said, you know what? I'm done. I think he could have potentially fought to get to the rope. Boom, boom, boom. One final time, but I think he felt what I felt, and that's when that Austrian man is wrapped around you, you feel like... What's that called? Claustrophobic. I was almost claustrophobic with his body just kind of engulfing me, and I think that's probably what Cena felt as well. So he said, you know what, that's it. Legs aren't even locked. Says, that's a fun year. That's a fun run. I'm going to get out of here.

1:12:04Pat McAfee:Congrats to John. We love you, John. Good luck, John. Love you, John. What's John going to do now? Oh, take over the movies. Yep. I mean, not that he would because he has the thespian ability to do whatever, but how many action stars are there currently right now? Not many. You can probably count them all on one hand. Like if he really wanted to just go and take over the action world, he could – he's seen as – He's got range. He's got range for real. Ricky Stanicki, Ferdinand, anything else? What did he do with Amy Schumer? Yeah. Trainwreck. Yeah, Trainwreck. Blockers. That was another big comedy one that he was in.

1:12:42Pat McAfee:And he'll do whatever. Peace Waker. He'll do whatever. He's in. He is in for whatever, which is kind of this entire final run. Somebody pitches him an idea. I'm in, I'm in because I want to be easy to work with. And people are like, well, if he was pitched different ideas, would he have been in? Yes. Well, this is Cena's, Cena's okay with it. It's like, well, he's only okay because this is what he's hearing. You know, if there was other ideas that he was hearing, do we think he'd be okay with that too? Yeah, but Cena, hey, he's good. He's good. We appreciate it. Heisman winner, Fernando Mendoza.

1:13:12Pat McAfee:Indiana University has a Heisman for the first time ever, AJ. Loved his speech. Loved the way he handled it. Didn't love the presentation, but I do appreciate the fact that the Heisman still means something. You know, the Heisman will forever mean something, AJ. And that's a special night for not only Fernando and his family, which was beautiful to see, but for IU, for Indiana, for college ball as a whole. Congrats to him. And they're saying he's 6 '4", 6 '5". So whenever you talk about number one overall pick shit, this is guarantee in my eyes, but now also certified Heisman winner, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I mean, good for him.

1:13:45Obviously, he's going to be a great ambassador for the Heisman Trophy. his whole life. We're going to see him in the Heisman house doing goofy, funny things with the rest of the guys. We know that'll be fun. But I'm not shocked that his speech was great. Everything about him, his class seems so, so mature. Yeah, if I was a team, I wouldn't mind this guy leading my squad as a starting quarterback.

1:14:05Pat McAfee:He's an ugly crier. I mean, he's got a terrible cry. I mean, his whole face is bad. It's a bad cry face, but I do appreciate the fact that he did cry and he did get emotional. And also, he very much acknowledged how much it means to him, his family, Sig, the school, everything. It felt special while I was watching it. Incredibly happy for him. Yeah, like a lot of people leading up to it are a lot of me, me, me, me, me, and him being like, hey, Heisman, I want this thing living at IU. That in itself, I think, is really cool because, I mean, we had Matt Leinert on at one point, and his Heisman was in his laundry room.

1:14:40Like some people who kind of reached the pinnacle, and hopefully they do continue to go on and win the national championship, but him already being like, hey, I know this has my name on it, but I want this to live in Bloomington forever I think is so cool. Boy, the Heisman show could about change tenfold maybe.

1:14:58Pat McAfee:That needs a facelift. And the college football awards could as well. You know, I guess we just do something and we'll do it for that way forever because that's what everybody does. But it's like that's a special night. That was a hard watch. I watched the whole thing. I watched it especially. My wife was fully invested. They string it out a little bit. They definitely string it out a little bit. Well, and the way they string it out is just, I mean, are we grandstanding the whole time? I mean, can we do some sort of something? Yeah, what year did Fowler win the Heisman? Yeah, him standing up there amongst the Heisman award winners was certainly something.

1:15:26Pat McAfee:And then him making a statement of fact to Fernando and then acting as if Fernando was supposed to know that it was a question after Fernando just won the Heisman. And then say, it's your moment, kid. Okay, you didn't win a Heisman, Fowler. This is his Heisman. So let's have a little humility up there through it all. But, yeah, I mean, it's still a special thing. And then you see all the players, the ex-Heisman winners. It's like that is a special fraternity who has done so much for college ball. Yeah, I mean, it's awesome. And it'd be nice if it could have a massive facelift because that used to be, you know, like growing up, that was must watch.

1:16:00And part of that was because they didn't release odds. So you genuinely didn't know who was going to win the Heisman going into it. But you're right. I mean, it's almost getting to the point where it's a little too self-serving. It's like, hey, is this about the Heisman trust? Is this about all that BS? Or is it about the four kids who got nominated and ultimately the kid who wins the Heisman?

1:16:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, if we can make it a celebration, that would be sick. And then the college football award show being on a Zoom call, that's cool. That's really cool. I guess none of these awards are worthy of celebrating. I don't think I fully comprehend. Is the schedule too tough to make it work now or what? Because the teams are playing, how's it work? Well, I think if it's an ass event, anybody's going to make the excuse that the schedule, you know what I mean? I've never heard somebody say, oh, the schedule's too flooded for something. It's epic. I don't think I've ever heard that out of anybody.

1:16:49The Met Gala. The Met Gala's not going Zoom.

1:16:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. Are they cheapskates? Does that have something to do with it? Maybe. I think it's just laziness full on. For sure. I think it's just full on laziness to not want it to be special. And as somebody that got a chance to go to the College Football Award show back in the day down in Orlando, I think it was cool to have everybody around each other. I think everybody was kind of pumped to be around each other. You only get to see each other multiple different times. And it is a celebration. We talk about these things as if they matter, and then we don't treat them as if they matter whenever it happens.

1:17:23Adam Schefter:Why aren't they all together? I don't know, dude. Like all the awards. COVID gave people excuses to be lazy.

1:17:29Pat McAfee:Bingo. That's exactly what it is. You can just mail it in. And there's different types of awards that people with different groups run different awards, right? Isn't that why they're all split up? Yeah, but if you were to tell them, like, hey, it would be, what's good for the goose is good for the gander here. We can make this all a much bigger thing. Would be cool. But to do that, you would have to have drive initiative and some creativity and have to pitch that. So I don't know if that exists. I don't know if that's something that exists. That's what's crazy because most of these people, especially in this world, grandstand, there's no tomorrow.

1:17:56So if you were to have all of them in the same night, you are kind of giving a much brighter light or shining a much brighter light on all of the awards versus the Heisman. Could you imagine if the NFL Awards at every award in some separate little thing and then have the MVP award be an hour-long showcase about four people. Like, no, that wouldn't make any sense because they have brains. And then think about what the NFL award honors are. It's like the wrap on the Super Bowl week as a whole. It really doesn't kind of do any justice to the players of college football as a whole, let alone the four people up there.

1:18:30Because Jeremiah Love, I'm assuming he won the running back of the year award. I don't even know, but I'm assuming.

1:18:35Pat McAfee:The only thing we saw was him lose the Heisman. Exactly. So it's like it really makes no sense. It's stupid. But, again, it is very cool seeing all those former Heisman winners. Like, it's sweet to see Dez up there because you just see Dez on game day. But then when you see him on that stage, it's like, oh, yeah, like you said. Yeah, you forget how certified that guy. Yeah, Desmond Howard, Heisman Award winner and Super Bowl MVP. I mean, he 20 years on TV, multiple-time Emmy Award winner. and he caught Michael Jackson's hat at a performance in Ann Arbor in college.

1:19:05Adam Schefter:What?

1:19:06Pat McAfee:Yep, that's literally in the middle of his living room. He's got the Super Bowl MVP. He's got a Heisman. He's got all this other shit. What kind of hat? The hat. The hat. The fedora hat. Oh, jeez. Okay. Michael Jackson threw it. That's crazy. One of his things at a concert in Ann Arbor threw it like this. Desmond. Yeah, naturally. Nobody. Nobody. Mossed everybody. Snags it. Keeps that thing. Puts that thing under there. It's in his living room. Literally in the front. The greatest catch I've ever made. It's like Michael Jackson's hat or whatever it is. Desmond is certified. And everybody up on that stage is.

1:19:38Pat McAfee:And Fernando Mendoza now is. And it's like, we should at least, what do we know? You know, what do we know? Well, we know we watched it. And we know people that aren't like diehard people watched it. Because I was literally in a room with somebody. And they're like, this is the Heisman. This is what this. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Take a trip back to 1920. this is what it is who's the guy reading the award for mendoza uh he's he matters certainly is he reading directly off a teleprompter uh yeah well actually they'll show it yeah you can see they'll actually show it for it's like come on bernie and then diego i don't think i've seen anybody have bigger heel turn in one weekend than diego pavia not that it was starting to happen already kind of because of anybody who's flashy and talks a lot of shit is going to be hated by group of people regardless but then this weekend with how it all went i think a lot of people kind of turned on diego pavia and i saw a lot of people saying let's make sure we keep this energy that we had for shador sanders going in the draft that we have for diego pavia i don't think anybody's really talking about diego pavia being in the nfl period like i don't think that's really a conversation that's happening at this time but i do know diego pavia is gonna be a usxfl yeah Maybe Hall of Famer.

1:20:56Pat McAfee:Owner, maybe. Yeah. When's the draft? Do they have one of them? I think they randomly signed. Do we know the proper name of the league, though? USXFL. I'm not sure I've seen that out there. Is that really what it is? Yeah, it is. You missed. There's an exclamation point at the end. Oh, USXFL! Okay, okay. Now it makes sense. Yeah, okay. So, to that or Canada, you know, Diego could have a massive Canada. But I feel like with his size – now, granted, he's a hell of a ball player. So maybe they move him out to slot wide receiver or something like that. I don't know if he's going to be quarterback.

1:21:30Adam Schefter:We don't know. Dylan Gabriel just got drafted in the third round. We didn't expect that. I think we expected Dylan Gabriel in the NFL. Okay, I'll speak for myself. I didn't expect Dylan Gabriel to be a third-round pick.

1:21:42Pat McAfee:Oh, third round or just NFL in general?

1:21:45Adam Schefter:I expect him to get drafted, but not third round. Got it. Because he's too short. That's a big part of it. Not a strong arm. That's the big thing is the size.

1:21:52Pat McAfee:That is the separator for the NFL. everywhere else. That is the worry about Diego in my eyes. I think he's a dog. He's robbed people the wrong way, but I think that's because he is a dog. Flip Vandy. Who he is. Flip Vandy. So do Mendoza, I think people would say. Nobody's really talking about what happened with Indiana now. Curtis Rourke last year did it for Indiana. Diego did it last year for Vandy. But a lot of people saying, like, Diego made Vandy a football program. Very real. I think Clark Lee will be very appreciative, as were the people for Vandy. But Fernando did that for Indiana as well, which didn't have a football team very similar to what Vandy was.

1:22:27Pat McAfee:But I don't know if Diego to the NFL is really a conversation that a lot of people are having. I think that's why he's trying to get another year of college ball. And yeah, it is interesting the way everybody has kind of turned on Diego. Yeah, and I guess we'll see if he gets invited to the combine because that'll kind of be like if he wants, you know, a big part of his game is running. If he goes out there and runs a 4-7-8 at the combine, it's kind of like, well, you can't play wide receiver and you're not big enough to play quarterback so we'll see we have an update from Micah Parsons he has tweeted about his injury giving a response I may be sidelined but I am not defeated this injury my is my greatest test a moment God allowed to strengthen my testimony I believe he walks with me through this storm and chose me for this fight because he knew my heart could carry it I'm deeply grateful to the Packers organization and my teammates for their unwavering support, love, and belief in me during this season.

1:23:23Pat McAfee:I trust his timing, his plan, and his purpose. I will rise again. How do you feel about that, Ty? I mean, yeah, that's all I needed to hear. We're going to come back with a better Micah Parsons than we've ever seen. I think the big thing that I've kind of tried to compartmentalize with this, too, is it's not an Achilles. Like, an ACL isn't, like, death wish like it was 10, 15 years ago, where if a guy tore his ACL, it's like, oh, he's going to be out 12 to 18 months. I don't think that he's going to come back and be slower and have lost a step and all that kind of stuff. So while it sucks that it was this late in the season and there's a chance he might miss the first half of next season or something like that, it could be a lot worse.

1:24:06Pat McAfee:AJ, a lot of injuries. Micah, obviously, and there's others with the Green Bay Packers. Devontae Adams, Patrick Mahomes, your thoughts on teams losing key players at this stage of the season. Yeah, it's brutal seeing it happen, And especially the biggest guys, but as far as Micah goes, I think Ty makes a good point. Yeah, it's not as Achilles. And think, what, September's, what, nine months away or something? Like, why can't he come back at the beginning of next season? It's one of those things where an ACL is not a – it used to be like a career ender, and this guy's going to come back a step slow.

1:24:32Now he can come back and, you know, with all the rehab you do, you almost could possibly feel a bit stronger once you get your knee – once you get confident in your knee, I guess. But, yeah, Patrick Mahomes, I guess if there's ever a good timing to tear your ACL, is that a good timing? The fact that they're out of the playoffs, He can get surgery, rest, and rehab. I don't know if you're trying to look at the positive parts of it.

1:24:49Pat McAfee:Has never played a snap where the Chiefs didn't have a chance to make the playoffs or be season over, and now that trend will continue. This year was a different year for Patrick Mahomes. A lot more mobile, a lot more physical contact, a lot of physicality in Patrick Mahomes. I don't think anybody believed that this was going to be the year the Chiefs won the Super Bowl. Outside of the fact that they had Patrick Mahomes, he has obviously said he'll come back stronger and better than ever. And then let's go, yeah, here's his quote right here about being back stronger than ever with the clock. We appreciate that mindset.

1:25:20Pat McAfee:Obviously, Godspeed to Patrick Mahomes. He battles. And then Devontae Adams, hamstring injury, classic sniper situation, gets his little bit of a pull on a go route. Your thoughts on Devontae and what the Rams are over the next couple weeks as he tries to recover this? I know he's a guy who's an incredible athlete, obviously a wild work ethic. He's committed himself fully to ball. 34 years old. Should we be worried about this, you think, down the stretch, AJ? I don't think down the stretch. I think what Sheffy said, he should look for him. I'm just guessing, but he should be fine for the playoffs.

1:25:51I would imagine. I mean, obviously, there's all different levels to hamstrings. He's walking this one off. Yeah, I think for their playoff push, they should feel okay. But obviously, it sucks any time you get hurt. You don't want this to be a lingering thing. So when he does come back, you want to make sure you do whatever it is to where it's not going to pop up again another time down the road in the playoffs.

1:26:09Pat McAfee:He's 32 years old, not 34 years old. I apologize. I had that wrong the entire first hour as well. 100 % on me. Let's talk about some of the outcomes from yesterday's games. That NFC West is unbelievable right now, AJ. I mean, obviously the Rams are the odds-on favorite to win the Super Bowl. Puka's outrageous. Matthew Stafford's unbelievable. Their offensive line has two running backs who can get the job done, and Karen Williams and Blake Corum, and they will punch you in the mouth. They are not scared to just punch you right in the mouth, but obviously have all the pieces to be explosive. And then on the defensive side, they're able to get the job done with anybody.

1:26:45Pat McAfee:Your thoughts on the Rams or will it be the Niners? Obviously, the San Francisco 49ers, they lose Fred Warner in Bosa, which is obviously a scary situation for them defensively. Salah's still got the boys cooking. Brock Purdy does his thing. They're seemingly flying better than they have in a long time on the offensive side. They played the Titans, so it's hard to judge, but you get the point. And then the Seattle Seahawks team, obviously not the prettiest win against the Indianapolis Colts, but they continue to win. They win on the road. They have a strong defense. Sam Darnold can get it done.

1:27:18Pat McAfee:Feels like the Super Bowl representative for the NFC is now coming out of the NFC West, even though Bears people don't want to hear that. I don't think Packers people necessarily want to hear that, even with all the injury. But this NFC West feels like the real deal, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I'm with you on that. As far as those three teams, I feel most confident that the Rams would be the representative coming from the NFC. I just think with how Matt Stafford is playing, the defense, and all the weapons they have, if they get Devontae back for the playoffs, obviously, what he can do in the red zone and stretch the field, there's not many people like him on the planet.

1:27:52So if they get him back, obviously, Puka just wants to catch like 8 to 10 balls, almost 200 yards every single game, it feels like. It was a scary-looking situation earlier. It was a cramps or whatever. He came off the field, and luckily it was good to see him back. Like, what separates Puka? Why is he so good, honestly? How is he always making these plays?

1:28:11Adam Schefter:I mean, number one, you don't know where he's going to be. And you know how difficult that is throughout the week. You know, preparing for somebody, if you know they're going to be on the X or they're going to be in the Z or they're going to be always in the slot, that makes it easier to prepare for and prepare coverages, adjust coverages around a guy. But for a guy that can move around in the backfield, can be in the slot, can be on the outside, can run all of the routes. And then his catch point, like when it comes to that moment of truth, like nine times out of ten it feels like 12 is going to come down with he had a drop I think early in his game and it was where it was like wow it was like that we never see that happen his rookie career uh his rookie year even though he had a career you know year for rookies he had a bunch of drops but he kind of fixed that but yeah he's a dog he does everything well and then after the catch like once the ball is in his hands the play starts all over again it's like how uh like Brandon Marshall used to be back in our day like once he got the ball in his hands now it's going to take two or three guys to get him down to the ground so he's just unbelievable in all

1:29:03Pat McAfee:those different aspects speed yeah hey we really talk about puka speed it's obviously a lot about his toughness this guy runs great routes he's seemingly everywhere and knows everything his hands he catches everything i mean these catches are absurd but he ran like uh an out and go or something like it just blew by he doesn't look like a burner that's the thing he doesn't exactly look like a burner or look super quick but he is so that's why it's like it's weird like the dude is an absolute stud. Yeah, so fast, so tough, so chirpy, so jovial. I mean, it's like everything you want out of a guy.

1:29:35Pat McAfee:And Sean McVay just so happens to be the perfect head coach and offense coordinator to have a wide receiver like him. Yeah, he's fantastic. And we talk about how, like, running backs, I mean, Gibbs, Pacheco, they run angry. Like, Puka also runs angry. He might be the angriest running wide receiver in the NFL. Like, when he gets the ball, he's patting the pavement. and, I mean, it's already been said, but has he ever dropped a ball? Has a ball ever hit his hands and he's not reeled it in? It feels like every time Stafford goes to him, it's a catch. It's a first down. It's a massive play. NFC West is a problem.

1:30:06Pat McAfee:Here's the highest scoring margin this season from Hembo. NFC West plus 287. Jesus. Yeah. What? Yeah, not even close. Yeah, NFC North, obviously good, plus 159. AFC South, hey, problems down here, Especially if Trevor Lawrence is going to do what he just did. What's that all about? Five through the sky, one on the ground. Liam Cohen doing his thing. Defense making plays. AFC East, plus 57. The NFC West is 26-12 in non-division games, which is obviously unbelievable. Feels like the Super Bowl champion might be coming from the NFC West. Yesterday, we all saw it. One dude beat a fairytale story right into the ground.

1:30:50Pat McAfee:one guy leads the NFL in the most field goals this season one man is just eight field goals away from having the most field goals made in a single season in the history of the NFL ladies and gentlemen joining us now the guy who said old man Rivers go back to the retirement home kicker for the Seattle Seahawks Jason Mars what's that all about I mean And I will say, after the game, I felt a little bad because I did grow up watching Phillip play. I was a Chargers fan growing up. So after the fact, I felt a little bad. Okay. In the fact, though, you didn't think to yourself, all right, 50-some yarder yet again.

1:31:31Pat McAfee:Blake Groupie, who I had no idea somebody that small could hit the ball as far as he hits. He is outrageous. You didn't think to yourself, you know, Phil Rivers deserves this one. You know, our Seattle Seahawks team, pretty good. I've already made five field goals. I go five for six. That's pretty good odds. That's a pretty good percentage. Everybody would think I had a good day. 56-yarder in Seattle with the game on the line. Maybe I missed this one for Phil Rivers. Didn't cross your mind one time, Jason Myers? No. I mean, obviously, Blake's kick was amazing. That was a great ball. Then Sam and the boys got us down in field goal range.

1:32:05So, yeah, that didn't cross my mind until after I got home. And the family had to remind me that I did grow up watching Philip play for the Chargers.

1:32:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, I respect that. I appreciate that. Can you tell me about the team a little bit? Obviously, you're a weapon. If it comes down to a kick, we know you're going to make it. You've been doing this a long time. Eight field goals away from the most field goals made in one season. Good luck finishing the season this year. Hopefully you're able to accomplish that, and this is one that goes down in the record books because it's been a special season for you. But also the Seahawks team. Can you tell me about Sam Darnold becoming your quarterback? McDonald's culture kind of taking over. What do you feel from the Seahawks team at this point that maybe you felt in the offseason going into the year that said maybe we could be special this year?

1:32:44I think it started last year, really. You know, this locker room, everyone talks about it all year, that it's a tight locker room. And the brotherhood we have in here is amazing. Like, you walk through the locker room, everybody's interacting. You don't really get that everywhere. And I think that's what brings us together. And, like, on Sundays when things aren't going right sometimes, everyone has each other's back. And it's just kind of how we've built it. I think it started last year when Mike came in. And, you know, Sam, I played with Sam in New York. Sam's a great guy. He's a great leader for us.

1:33:18So, yeah, it's really just the tight-knit group that we have here is amazing.

1:33:23Pat McAfee:The closeness is on display when you guys are on the road. You have some away record that's just, like, historic because home field advantage is supposed to be something. Obviously, in Seattle it is. You guys have walked into other people's trap, took over their trap, and it potentially is because of your tightness. That's kind of the X factor you can't really see on film. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, you mentioned Sam Donald there, a quarterback. You play with him in New York. What's it been like to watch his progression through the league and everything from a high pick to everything that he's gone through?

1:33:50Are you surprised at all to see the success that he's having? Not at all. I mean, I know Sam off the field. You know, we golfed this offseason, and, you know, Sam's just a great guy. He's true to who he is. You know, he's always going to be a fighter. He's obviously shown that through his career. And, you know, people have his back no matter what's going on. So we'll always put the ball in Sam's hand, and he's going to lead us to great places.

1:34:14Pat McAfee:You're in your 11th year right now, you old-ass man, kicking like you're some young buck still. It's unbelievable to have the weapon like that. But in that stadium, you know, it felt like it was special yesterday. Go ahead, D-Bud.

1:34:27Adam Schefter:Yeah, speaking of old-ass men, we played up here. When we played in a league like that, it was a special environment, special, very hostile atmosphere. And it was some reports a couple years ago about some other fan bases is kind of potentially taking over Lumen Field. Is Lumen Field all the way back? Is the atmosphere back where it used to be with those 12s? Oh, for sure. You know, Pat, you mentioned it on the road. I think the 12s traveling is also a huge part for us. We go some places, and you see the home team going on the silent count, and that's just because our 12s show up everywhere, and then obviously at home.

1:35:01I think people just wanted to come to Seattle, honestly, to see what Lumen's about. So I think that's why it brought a lot of away fans in. But, yeah, our fans are back. You know, they're loud. It's a great place to play.

1:35:12Pat McAfee:I thought about traveling out there yesterday and taking over your place. You know, it's just so far away. I thought about it. Me and I was going to bring 30 ,000 Colts fans to take over Lumen Field. And, you know, we're going to – maybe you get discombobulated on one of your six field goals yesterday. This guy never fucking misses. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jason, we obviously saw it yesterday with you guys after Groupie makes the kick. Like in seasons past, it feels like there wouldn't be enough time left on the clock. But now with the new kickoff rules, it feels like even if a kick is made with 15 seconds left, there's still enough time for other teams to get back into field goal range to trump that.

1:35:50Is that how you are on the sideline thinking? Or is like, is there ever a chance that any team is out now with the new kickoff rules? Yeah, I mean, there's I mean, there's so many different factors that play into that, whether like the time or, you know, what what yard you want to give up if you want to hit touchback. And, you know, Sheed made a great return on that one, got us into, you know, a good starting position. And then we got a couple, I don't even know how many plays it was, five plays or something, and we got the yardage. So, yeah, that definitely plays into the factor. And then, you know, we still had, what, 18 seconds left after our field goal.

1:36:23And, you know, we kicked it short, let our boys cover. And, you know, I think it was one play later, Kobe made the pick. So, yeah.

1:36:30Pat McAfee:You're not hitting Squibb, right? You just hit it down. What are you aiming for in between the five and the goal line? Like, what is perfect kick for you? I mean, I think it depends, really. Like, some returners play you shorter. You want to hit a little deeper, and they start backing up. Then you want to try and get on the ground in front of them. It's kind of, you know, you're trying to play a game with the returners. They're switching sides. It's all kinds of different little intricate parts that are going on until they kick off. And, you know, in the end, you just want to get the ball to a spot and let our cover guys do their job.

1:36:57Pat McAfee:Will you be working on it in the offseason more, you think? I started working last offseason when they changed the rule. I worked on it a little bit more this year. I mean, as I get older, it definitely saved your leg. You're not trying to hit the 4-2 hangs, deep 80-yard kickoffs now. You're just trying to place the ball. The new hang time is really just off of getting the ball on the ground and letting your guys get that early start before the ball is being returned. I didn't love, and maybe I was overthinking it, I'm removed from the game now. I've been nominated for the Hall of Fame three times.

1:37:29Pat McAfee:It means I've been out of the game a long time. I haven't kicked the ball in forever. and that does not mean I should go to the Hall of Fame. That was laughable that I got nominated, but I'm just talking about the amount of years I've been away from it all and haven't kicked. I was a little bit worried about these kickers, especially young kickers, that were trying to hit the ball fat to get one of this, and it was like messing up their field goal swing. I thought, personally, there was a chance that that was taking place. For you, is there a mindset on what you should do with the ball, what you can't do with the ball?

1:37:55Pat McAfee:Are you comfortable doing everything with it? Does that make sense? I don't know if the question makes sense for you or not. Yeah, for sure. When this kind of started, I kind of had that mindset also. But I kind of try in my mind to differentiate my field goal swing from my kickoff swing. I take kind of different steps. And it kind of takes me back to, like, my soccer days of, like, let's just place the ball into a spot instead of trying to, like, technically think about the swing. So, yeah, I think that I understand what you're saying. And I definitely thought about that early on when they switched this.

1:38:23So, yeah, for sure.

1:38:24Pat McAfee:Well, it's seemingly working for you. You're about to break the all-time record for field goals made in a season. But let's talk about the change that happened over there. We heard there were some walls that were painted and such. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Jason, very new era it feels like with Coach McDonald. What is he like on the day-to-day? He kind of gives off the super smart, nice guy, but he'll also rip your face off on a football field vibe. Is that what he is? Is he kind of like a football savant? How would you explain Mike McDonald? Mike's awesome. He's a player's coach. But when it's time to work hard, we work hard here.

1:38:58We have fun when, you know, we're in the locker room and we're about, like, around the facility. You know, one of our big things is loose and focused. And it starts with him, and then it carries through the locker room. And, yeah, I mean, he's smart, smart as hell, really. I mean, you've seen what he's done with the defense. And, you know, he gets kind of fiery on game day. And, you know, the guys will have his back no matter what.

1:39:24Pat McAfee:Loose and focused. Love everything about that. That's a tough balance, you know, for some places. That's kind of how Pete was. Carol. Yeah. That was kind of their thing.

1:39:33Adam Schefter:Loose and focused? Yeah, from, I mean, from people, you know, talking to people that used to play there. And, like, obviously at that time, the Patriots are in their dynasty and everything was very tight and militant. But in Seattle, at least back then, you know, had the hoop in the meeting room and all these different shit. So, yeah, very loose. But when they came onto the field, obviously they were a force to be reckoned with.

1:39:49Pat McAfee:How were you with that hoop? How were you with that hoop? I could shoot. I could shoot. Yeah, pretty good shooter. You know specialists are athletes too, Pat. Ping pong? Oh, yeah. Anything we don't got to move. If we can get these guys in things where they can't expose us athletically, we're in a good spot. Play horse. Let's play horse. Let's do that. Ping pong, not as much movement. Is there games, cornhole and such, in locker room, or are you guys no games building? We got the shuffleboard in there. That's a big one. the shadow boxing is taking over for sure what do you mean? I don't quite understand it but it's looking and pointing and all kinds of stuff what is the winner?

1:40:33Pat McAfee:Have you ever won one? my generation missed this, I don't know what the hell they're doing anytime that they do it and I've heard from people that are in that world that say I don't fully know what a win or a loss is, have you dove into the whole thing yet and what's your record? I'm not great but uh we have a lot of great players on our team what are you supposed to do do you what is the do you know what the goal of the game is uh you're supposed to look the opposite way of that they're pointing and they're yeah you get your ass kicked yeah i'm with you pat i'm with you yeah you walk right into it yeah i got it i got it uh go ahead ty yeah jason i haven't spent too much time in seattle but it seems like the only thing people really talk about is the rain and Like on Sunday, I was expecting there to be a bunch of snow and have the weather be really shitty, but it didn't really look that bad.

1:41:24What is it like kicking in the elements, I guess, in Seattle? And how much does that prepare you for what you might see in the playoffs? I mean, there's a good chance that either you guys or the Rams will be the number one seed, so you won't have to deal with it. But what is it like kicking in the elements in Seattle? Yeah, I mean, it can be tough sometimes. You know, the ball doesn't fly as well here. It's a little of that heavy, wet air. Yeah, I mean, we get rain. It's kind of like that heavy drizzle most of the time. But, yeah, I mean, it can be a tough place to kick, but it's also, you know, when you have the fans that we have, it's just like, it's football weather for sure.

1:42:06Pat McAfee:Did you expect Groupie to be able to hit a 60-yard football? I did not. I mean, he's come out to San Diego a few times the last couple off seasons, so I know he can hit that for sure. Dude, it's unbelievable. I have always had to believe that you've got to have a cannon. Like you, very smooth swinger. The ball is traveling so far. Groupie has a cannon, but I don't know where it's coming from. I legitimately have no idea where it's coming from. It's insane leg speed for him at his size, and we're lucky to have him. And the Seahawks, obviously, incredibly lucky to have you. Good luck the rest of the way, and please tell the boys, we say congrats, you ruined a fairy tale.

1:42:41Pat McAfee:Thanks. Appreciate it, guys. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Myers. Yay, Jason. ruined a fairytale. It did feel like he was going to miss. Like, hey, you can't ruin this for Phil, right? This is like a whole situation. I was watching with my daughter, McKenzie, and I'm like, this guy always makes kicks. Like, that's literally all he does. And I think I said that in the past, and then the next game he missed one. I think because I was like, hey, Jason Myers, this guy from Seattle, anytime he shows up on your screen, he's making a kick. That's all this guy does. He very rarely. And then next week, I think he pushed one right.

1:43:13Pat McAfee:So I was almost like a kind of a jinx so right before he kicked that i was like mckenzie all this guy does is make kicks it's all that's literally all he does is make kicks and then that thing was his there wasn't even a there was no doubt on any of his kicks i mean it is he's special dick's in there punter from australia he was one of the first ones from australia that had massive amount of success obviously which led to a lot of others trying to get in the game he's a special talent as well i mean they got sick tats seattle seahawks got yo he's aussie obviously and thoughts are with australia obviously yeah love the country those are crazy scenes crazy crazy scenes anytime any of that stuff's happening and obviously there's stuff going on here as well over the weekend it's like t's and p's to everybody uh going through anything go ahead yeah brown yeah university in rhode island very scary uh that entire thing so yeah and i think the bills were staying right down the road so obviously crazy stuff happening but we have to remember that the good outweigh the bad no matter how hellacious something feels or seems in the moment we have good people that will hopefully win in the end i like to believe that but t's and p's to positive thoughts and prayers to everybody going through it i mean that was some that was crazy shit popping up on the internet which is why we're incredibly lucky that we stay in a sports world in sports are unifiers and tonight aj the miami dolphins take on the pittsburgh steelers did you see the miami Dolphins travel up to Robert Morris, Bobby Moe to get acclimated to the elements because it's impossible to replicate that in an indoor facility in Miami, what you could be facing tonight, AJ.

1:44:51I did see this. I was actually happy to see this. I like the guys getting excited. It's like a spirited practice in this snow. I said to some guys when I connected before the show, I respect this and I enjoy this much more than the take your shirt off in warm-ups and go run around and act like you're not cold in warm-ups. So I think this actually might have some positive benefits for them.

1:45:10Pat McAfee:Bobby Moe is actually located in? Moontown, ship home of AQ Shipley. And? Joe DiNorda. Thank you. I almost don't like how that went. AQ's a Hall of Famer. Hey Joe DiNorda, he's well, buddy! I saw this week AQ in his first season was ranked as the number two radio crew in all of the NFL. Who's he ranked by? Is it a place that matters? No. Oh, okay. But on that note. Better to be two than 32. Way to go, AQ. Actually, I believe it was the worst place to do the ranking. Exactly, but hey, congrats, AQ. Oh, yeah, AQ. Follow Joe Donato's lead. He's good on the microphone. Bingo. Okay, but Bobby Moe over there in Moon Township hosted the Miami Dolphins.

1:45:56Pat McAfee:It's always... Sounds like a traitorous move. So... Joe Donato's rolling over in his grave. Robert Morris would do that. Duquesne would never.

1:46:05Adam Schefter:They didn't do any things for the field. They didn't clear the field out

1:46:07Pat McAfee:for him at all well i think they asked for that to not be clear yeah they definitely rolled it a little bit and uh as they were walking in i didn't know is that robert morris i think i found out like maybe the next time i watched the video i was like man what high school are they that might be like pine richland or something they're in the high school field and then i immediately thought to myself what high school is going to be like yeah the miami dolphins can actually get working on our field in pittsburgh in the middle of a playoff push i don't know i think that would be a little bit of a difficult decision for some yinzer to make yeah so as i'm watching the video i'm like I like this out of the Dolphins, but then I'm immediately thinking in the background, somebody's about to get murdered by Pittsburgh here.

1:46:42Pat McAfee:Who were the ones that were like, yeah. We're going to see who turned them down. We didn't ask the Dolphins, hey, who turned you down? How many places did you have to call until you got this? Legit, that's a real, I think that's a real question, especially in Pittsburgh, especially at this time, especially with how Jensers feel about this particular season. This is another primetime game. This is another night game. okay getting down to the stadium with how hilly and mountainy pittsburgh is is a thing you're coming in one tunnel or the other it's either squirrel hill or fort pitt and to get into these tunnels obviously a lot of lanes come into a little bit of lanes and everybody's coming at the same time it's one big cum party and everybody's trying to get downtown pittsburgh and it is a nightmare let alone whenever you get through the tunnels then the chaos to get into the right lanes to get in so these yinzers that are signing up to go to these prime time games it takes them an hour and a half to get down there then obviously we got a tailgate for an hour and a half this is uh everything else so that's three hours game three and a half four hours that's seven hours and then trip home getting out of town yeah right yeah right it's night now the traffic is outrageous it's a 10 hour commitment okay and then we got work tomorrow morning so we are committing a lot to go to a prime time stealers game so when they're booing or if they're booing renegade tonight it's not just what's happening on the field it's their own personal decision to commit this much of their life to this pittsburgh steeler team that we've been watching all damn year play like this so we need sticks to know it's not about them if it happens tonight we need the steelers that are on the field to know it's not just about you it's about everything else that's been going on but that's what the dolphins are looking to do tonight they're looking to take accuracy completely out of it they're looking to make sure pittsburgh does not have any faith going into the fourth quarter.

1:48:30Pat McAfee:And without T.J. Watt, stats tell us there's a chance that the Dolphins can do that, Tony. Yeah, so there's a lot of good things going for the Steelers tonight. As I said earlier, the Finns have lost 13 straight games. If it's under 40 degrees at kickoff, it's going to be 17 degrees at kickoff tonight. Pittsburgh has won 22 straight home Monday night football games, so that's pretty good. The gold end zones are back because Pitt's done playing football, so that's awesome. It's also a color rush tonight for the Steelers, which they always win in those jerseys. The one issue is they are not with T.J.

1:48:57Watt, and they are 1-11 without TJ Watt. So that could be a problem tonight. Rodge in the snow too. Oh, Rodge in the snow. Yeah, Rodge in the cold and the snow. He's going to have the Dickey on. Yeah, he's going to have – I completely forgot about that.

1:49:11Pat McAfee:And Joey Porter and Ben Roethlisberger. Oh, yes. And Pouncey. Yes, they're going into the Hall of Honor. Those three are going in, so that'll be cool to all be there tonight. But this is a different Dolphins team. They started playing Minka. Closer line of scrimmage is really how it's done. Russell Douglas has been playing really well. They run the shit out of the ball with A-Chan. So, no, it'll be an interesting – like I said, Derek Harmon, if you see him scratch tonight, he's questionable right now. He's the rookie out of Oregon that he took in the first round. They give up 95 – D-tackle. He is a – they give up 95 yards a game rushing when he starts and when he plays, when he's in the game, and they give up 195 when he's not.

1:49:43So, something to look at.

1:49:45Pat McAfee:Let's go to the other half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys grinning like the butcher's dog back there. Gumpy, it feels like you feel good going into tonight. Did the Robert Morris snowball play around help the feelings tonight, or what exactly is it? You could probably run this back every time we've got to this point in the season the past three or four years when it's a cold game, and I've said I've believed, and this is the time. We're going to change everything. It's going to be better. But this time, it does actually feel different. We're running the ball. Our offensive line is actually good, and he's not going to say it.

1:50:20I think this game means a lot to Minka, man. and Anthony Weaver, the DC, said it. He said he won't say it, but I know how much it means to him. I think that is a major factor because he's been playing lights out all year for us.

1:50:31Pat McAfee:All right, let's move to some other games that we haven't shown enough attention to from the weekend. Bears bury the bronze in a freezing cold. Congrats to the Bears. Feel like they're mentally and physically tough. And the Browns, Myles Garrett gets a couple sacks. Obviously, he's celebrating that. But other than that, not much to really pull for from the bronze. No, the bronze absolutely stink, unfortunately. But, yeah, for the Bears, this was, I mean, negative 20 wind chill. Unbelievable. For Caleb to play the way he did. Like, he looked unbelievable yesterday. And, yeah, the Bears, I mean, you can say what you want.

1:51:01Their odds are what they are. But, like, this is – they're a very good football team.

1:51:05Pat McAfee:Cairo hit a 41-yarder and negative 15 wind chill. That's a huge kick. I took that away just as a person. Obviously, that's incredible play, incredible catch, incredible throw. I don't know how the Browns didn't get that, especially after the replay kind of showed that back. but it feels like the Bears' mental toughness that is good, better, best, never let it rest till your good is better and better is best from Ben Johnson has settled in completely. What a game to showcase that.

1:51:29Adam Schefter:Absolutely. Huge bounce back win for them after a tough loss against the Packers where they could have laid down in that game against the Packers as well, but they fought all the way to the end. They had a great second half. Then for Caleb to have these type of highlight plays and these elements are unbelievable. Moved to 10-4 now, second in the NFC, which is crazy to even think about.

1:51:46Pat McAfee:Jacksonville Jaguars, we've mentioned them a couple times. Trevor Lawrence going crazy. They lead the AFC Southie, but they look for real.

1:51:53Adam Schefter:Yeah, they're number three in the AFC. You touched on it a little bit with Trevor Lawrence. Had a historic day yesterday. He was 20-32 for 330 yards in the air. Five TDs, another 51 on the ground with another touchdown. He has been playing great, great football. I know this was against the Jets, but this last four or five weeks, he's been on an unbelievable run. Another 10-4 football team that we wouldn't expect. First-year head coach. Trevor, even this year, a lot of people were saying, hey, this guy stinks. Maybe time to move on for him, but unbelievable.

1:52:21Pat McAfee:I was offended that the Colts had the largest spread of the weekend when the Texans were playing the Cardinals. And I actually said the Cardinals have been routinely losing by 20. I have no idea why their spread is so much smaller than ours against the Seahawks. Well, looky, looky, they lose by 20 again to this Texans team. Now, this isn't a shot at the Cardinals. It was just a compliment to who the Texans are. They're the real deal down there. The third best odds to win the Super Bowl.

1:52:49Adam Schefter:Yeah, in the Texas defense, we know how great they have been. But C.J. Stroud, you know, he has knocked that rust off since coming back. Another great game from him. Another great game from Nico Collins as well. He now became the third Texans receiver to have three thousand-yard seasons back-to-back, joining Andre Johnson and DeAndre Hopkins.

1:53:05Pat McAfee:And Shuck is not ass. And the Saints might be good in the future, Conman. Yeah, they might be good if they can figure out how to take care of their money, their cap. Nobody wants to win the NFC South. Kind of cool. Panthers and Bucs. She's kind of passing it back and forth, but that's because the shuck master, the shuck man, that's kind of how they won the game. He slid, and there was a penalty, unnecessary roughness. And then what? But Charlie Smythe, lads. Game winner. Charlie Smythe, game winner from Mayo Bridge County, Ireland. His name's Charlie Smith. He would have made that from 60-plus if he had to.

1:53:37Pat McAfee:It gets shortened for the late hit on the quarterback. The Saints aren't ass. Who will win the NFC South? Who knows? All right. We'll continue with overreactions and our official picks for Monday Night Football digitally on YouTube, ESPN +, Disney +, and TikTok Live. We hope you had an incredible day. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Goodbye. I didn't get that many words in. That was great. That whole left. Got it. There's four different times I thought about quitting and saluting, like I was John Cena, and then I just kept going. I saw the ticker going.

1:54:07Pat McAfee:Shout out to the alley-oop in the back there, Nick Merola. You mean tapping out?

1:54:10Adam Schefter:Never give up?

1:54:10Pat McAfee:Well, just being content, I guess. It's coming back. I think so too, AJ. He's already an ambassador. He's going to be back in some form. So the fact that he's already there, let's just throw our body around a few times. Don't lose that. This is amazing. WWE global, global business now, right? This business is now the most global it's ever been, even though it's always been popular around the world. Now it's like real. So I think whenever he signs on to be an ambassador, I think there's a chance that when John Cena's filming in London or England, there's a chance maybe he's out there meeting with business arenas or mayors or whatever the case is for the WWE.

1:54:57Pat McAfee:The Legends deal that the WWE has, that's for appearances and different events. So, Ambassador, I don't think I can put it. Oh, it's different. I didn't know it was different. Okay. I don't know what the WWE ambassador thing is versus the WWE legends stuff. Because WWE legends deal, you see podcasts coming out, appearances and stuff, which I think is a very good way for the WWE to take care of the legends that have come before and also to have them benefit and thank them for what they've done. I think the legends deal that started becoming a thing was a very good move and also a smart move because what they were seeing their ex-wrestlers become was not good for anybody.

1:55:34Pat McAfee:definitely wasn't good for wrestling as a whole. So getting them back into the fold and giving them purpose and a sense of beat, I think that is a really good thing they've done. I don't know the ambassador. I don't know what the ambassador tag is, but John Cena would be the perfect ambassador for basically anything, which is why he has 10 different commercials because John Cena is... Does good voiceover work, for real. Yeah, that Honda commercial is really well done. It's not too much. It's not overdramatic, but there is acting in there. He's good. He's a good actor. Why would he want to come back and wrestle?

1:56:08Every time he comes back, he's just getting his ass beat and losing. Who's signing up to continually do that year over year over year?

1:56:15Pat McAfee:That was kind of John Cena's entire thing. He would get his ass beat and then he'd come back and win, which is why John Cena never give up. That's why he's beloved by a lot of people. Obviously, he was the person who has the world record for the amount of make-a-wishes that he has granted. It's like he was the guy who got knocked down but just kept coming back just in matches, let alone in life. And then also he was the one who went out of his way to do everything that was good. So I think he'll still be able to do everything that was good for the WWE without having to get knocked down every single match that he was in.

1:56:51Pat McAfee:Because that's kind of the John Cena story and who John Cena is in the ring. He was the rope-a-doper. Yeah. I mean, he would just get his ass beat. And then who could survive longer, me or you? It was always big match, John. And that's why we appreciate it. And that's also why it's cool because his whole thing is never give up. And now for the rest of time, I remember him as the guy who gave up in his final match. Come on. Why are you saying that? Because that's what happened. He didn't give up. That was him passing the torch. Yeah. It's yours now. Looks like he gave up. No, because he wasn't at.

1:57:21Pat McAfee:So he didn't give up. He just said, it's yours now with his left hand. It's yours now, bud. I give up. You take it, dude. It's yours now. You can have it. I quit. Yeah. Looks like it quit on the business. No, he retired. I guess you can supplement those words with each other, but one means I did everything I could. I appreciate it. I grew up my whole life, and he told me to never give up, and now he gave up. I don't really get it. Did you tap out against Gunther? No, he pulled me out. Okay, that's what I thought. So you didn't give up. So you never gave up. My body certainly did, yes. I would say my body gave up.

1:57:53Pat McAfee:My body gave up. Yeah, but your mind didn't. You didn't make a conscious decision. Both of his did. I think you guys are looking into this a little bit too much in the wrong way. I saw a lot of people on X. A lot of people who had deathly, deathly, deathly illnesses saying like, oh, okay, I guess I'll give up then. No, that is not how this goes. That's what I saw. No, Dumpy, that is not. You guys are looking in a weird part of the internet. The record number of Americans unfortunately gave up. No. Passed away last night. No. Why are you guys looking at such a weird part of your net? Have it be a positive part of your net where he goes, Goodter, it's your WWE now is what he was saying.

1:58:32Pat McAfee:It was poetic. He smiled. I've done all that I could, and now it's my job to leave it better than it was, and it certainly is. It's your time now. Your time now. That's what he did. And he took those shoes off. Yep. Jey Uso called him trash ass, I believe. Jay Uso was on a microphone and I don't think a lot of people thought Jay Uso was going to be on a microphone including Jay Uso and he did get a little emotional in there as any person a little boozed up would in those moments you know as you kind of ride the ebbs and flows of it all but he did take a shot at the sneakers which I think we all did because you know there was a spotlight there whenever they're taking off what are those are those the Airbirds?

1:59:17Pat McAfee:The Monarchs?

1:59:20Adam Schefter:AFLs or sat lulu lemons oh really I don't know no clue

1:59:26Pat McAfee:I do appreciate the fact that he doesn't care like in the era of everybody knowing what good shoes are and what aren't good shoes and like the sneaker culture kind of being very relevant especially in the wrestling world especially with freaking Halliburton there yeah Halliburton's got the hibiscus fours out you know like and Halliburton being there yeah exactly Cena has never cared about the shoes no or the jorts just what are they their jorts are good with me and that's part of the thing we love about him. Loved. I think he could have won that. So that was a photoshop I saw when he left the jorts in the ring?

2:00:00No, he went back in. He actually came back into the arena. That's why he died. That wasn't real? It was real.

2:00:06Pat McAfee:No, that was Grok. But there was somebody in a very serious moment in the history of wrestling whenever he takes that off and he stands up and looks at it and he's about to leave. Hey, the jorts! You heard some couple people start chanting. I guess that would have been. That would have been awesome. That would have been. He doesn't wear anything underneath the jorts. He's got nothing underneath, yeah. But it came through. He obviously, you guys don't watch enough, Cena, because he doesn't care about the underwear either because that ends up showing and it's some terrible off-brain. And it's like, Cena, you can have fucking anything.

2:00:42You know?

2:00:44Pat McAfee:What do they give me? It's okay. As long as they work, I'm good with it. and that's kind of a part of it.

2:00:49Adam Schefter:Can you get him to send the jorts because that mannequin kind of makes me uncomfortable?

2:00:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's kind of shirt. What's it called? Shirt cock.

2:00:58Adam Schefter:That's the name? I didn't know what it was. Yeah, it's called a shirt cock. That's a classic shirt cock. Donald ducking it. We've never seen anyone do it with wristbands. We could just have Bone bringing a pair of jorts because I think he's got about 75 pairs of those Cena jorts. Think they'll fit that, man?

2:01:12Pat McAfee:Well, that's kind of what Cena's jorts are. They're really big. We tried to put the chairs in front of it so it didn't look as bad as if, you know, kind of covering them. But, yeah, it does appear. George might fit that bear, maybe. All right. All right, let's get to a break. On the other side. He's already had a rough day. Not today with him. Yeah, he threw a childlike tantrum on Saturday night in a group chat that I had to mute. It wasn't happening. It was so funny, though. He blocked WWE, dude. He blocked them. What? Thanks for ruining the fucking goats last run WWE. Hope the business fucking fails.

2:01:48Pat McAfee:Ah, it blocks the WWE. But he couldn't stay away from the chatter. He stayed on his phone all night and read every single Mark's reply to him. Yep. Got people telling me I don't understand business. This is what John Cena wanted. Is it?

2:02:03Adam Schefter:And what do you think about going to be watching tonight? Monday Night Football or?

2:02:07Pat McAfee:Netflix. Monday Night Raw. 8 p.m. Eastern. What will the WWE do in the brand new era post hustle, loyalty, and respect? We'll find out tonight. It's a new era. Fish, Brickfish. New era.

2:02:26Adam Schefter:They were mean to him on the internet. Yeah.

2:02:28Pat McAfee:And in real life. Yeah. That's part of the biz, bro. Exactly. That's part of the biz.

2:02:34Adam Schefter:I guess so.

2:02:35Pat McAfee:Listen, when you sit in a chair that you have to make actual decisions, there's going to be times where people don't appreciate you. which is why there's people that are sitting in positions of power that don't make any decisions because they're scared of the repercussions. Triple H said, fuck it, I'll be the one. He's got to do all this. Good healing. And he had a good run there for a while, Booker of the Century. Oh, yeah. This guy's the promoter, Booker of the Century. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, we got to make some real decisions and we got to pivot and we got to do some stuff and people turn.

2:03:03Pat McAfee:I assume Triple H still has a little bit of magic in that beard. He's got a little bit of heat in that pen. new era starts tonight that's right wait do you see all the nxt town soul ruka outrageously talented olba he's awesome i do love him yeah where's he from you you can tell just by looking oh okay what if cena comes back tonight he's like you guys are idiots you believe me you really believe i was leaving could happen yeah you never know and he gets beat again though he taps out again okay now it's over that's the business by the way the business is that he could show up tonight. Yeah. That's why we'll be there.

2:03:44Where is it? Netflix.

2:03:47Pat McAfee:I assume it's in the D.C. area. Normally after those things. Baltimore, maybe? I don't know.

2:03:53Adam Schefter:Wait, where's over from? Massachusetts? No. No, no, no.

2:03:57Pat McAfee:Where's he from? It's like Nigeria or something, right? I don't know. I saw him. That's sick. It's hard not to start to walk with him whenever he's walking. Jacked. Then he was standing up on his toes while he was in the middle of the ring. I'm like, that guy's balance is fucking outrageous. Yeah. They're in Hershey, Pennsylvania tonight? Yes, they are. We've been there. We have. That place is very committed to ball. It's a hub of Marks. Okay. They are, yes. It's a Mark hub. They are committed to ball. There's an Applebee's right down the road there. Great Applebee's. Yeah, pretty solid. Yeah, exactly.

2:04:35Play the hit. A hub of Chili's. Everywhere you will find Marks. Hershey PA, baby.

2:04:43Pat McAfee:All right. We'll be back on the other side and make our picks for tonight. Chuck E. Cheese. Excuse me. Hershey Park, the number two amusement park in Pennsylvania. Yeah, it's not even close. Obviously behind. Obviously. Is there a Six Flags or something I don't know about? You fucking pig. Those are going out of business because they suck. Have you heard? Really? Travis Kelsey's trying to save them. Oh, yeah. Well, as long as Kennywood exists, it's going to be tough to be another amusement park, is who I was referring to, AJ Hawk. Not everybody can offer free food and park, brother. That's not true.

2:05:23Pat McAfee:Holiday sale right now for Kennywood. This is not an ad, but you can save up to 60%. Oh, my God. 60%. Free food and park, brother. Right now, save up to 60 % on tickets and passes. Experience the joy of holiday lights for as low as$19.99. I will say it is good to see holiday lights still happening at Kennywood because Fright Night got canceled because the Ingers were just fighting each other in all of the different locations. Tis the season, so we know not to fight, Doreen. hey ins don't be fighting holiday lights at kennywood that's a bad everybody knows that fright night got canceled yep because there's too many brawls all right kennywood's got to cancel fright night because these assholes can't keep their fists to themselves it was all over the place same thing happened in station scare just tales all the time station scare used to be awesome well why is it that no well because everybody got all the injers got drunk went down there and just fought each other it's full chaos everywhere was it a haunted house what was it it was bars bunch of them.

2:06:24Pat McAfee:Bunch of bars. It was like a whole other area. Obviously got to Southside which won a Guinness World Record I think for having the most bars per whatever space. It was like a hundred some bars. Hilarious that that exists. It did for a long time and thrived for a long time. But 2.33 a.m. obviously on that street in Pittsburgh was you know that was a heads on a swivel situation at all times. And I'm not saying you always got out of their safe or we got out of their safe. Diggs got knocked out twice by the same guy. Same guy? Good scrap. In one night? I mean, I've told the story on here. He was buff Bagwell.

2:07:02Wasn't it a Brennan Huffdale Dullback situation where you guys both knocked each other out? No, there was three of us. And one guy. Who is this guy? We took him on Chuck Norrstyle, which was a bad idea one at a time. Why would you do that? Because we were drunk. Wait, the second time you did? The second time you got knocked out?

2:07:23Pat McAfee:This is Yinzers while drunk, dude. That's the title. Yinzers while drunk. Kennywood cancels 21 plus nights due to fights. Yeah, okay. Yeah, this is Yinzers while drunk. This is kind of the whole story. But that guy actually, in his mind when he's telling the story, it was four guys. Tone tells the story, there's just three of them, because it was Tone twice. So that guy knocked out Tone first, then the two friends, then Tone got back up, and then he knocked him out again. That guy gets in car immediately, goes, just knocked out four fucking guys. Yeah, but we wanted the end because the bouncer at Diesel saw it and said, that was awesome and let us in for free.

2:07:57Pat McAfee:Hell of a night. Which goes back to tonight. I mean, haven't even really talked about it. Big night out, there was one fight. Yeah. That's very impressive. There was an article that was like Pat McAfee's big night out has massive brawler or whatever. It was like going into that, we thought to ourselves, if there's under three fights here success story only one fight happening was like a big i was very i was like anybody super injured nope yeah there it is big nut out brawl in the stands with stars on the stage it was like pittsburgh booze together long time money being given out next door like we knew there was a chance that was a roll of the dice in pittsburgh but that leads us to tonight like Pittsburgh is a we're done with it city, and that could be on display tonight for real.

2:08:51Yeah, I was going to say, that was the biggest one, the Eagles fan winning a million bucks wearing an Eagles jersey. I thought they were going to beat that guy to death.

2:08:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, we had to get him. That was a decision that was made. Hey, let's get them back as immediately as possible into the back so we can meet them. But, yeah, that's, hey, tough time. Always will be. I know.

2:09:11Adam Schefter:Always will be. See how tough they are tonight. Man, they won't handle it well, though. If the warm weather Miami Dolphins come in and beat up on them, that's going to be a tough scene at Acre Sheer.

2:09:22Pat McAfee:Sevens and a half, so is Joey Poorer, so is Ponce. I assume some of the ex-coaches that coach those boys and lads are back in town. But that's the thing you talk about. We'll see if they're tough tonight. That's the thing that the Inzers hate, is like this team doesn't look like what we would like to portray. Oh, turn that the fuck off. That is not for this team. right here is what they were doing before. That could happen tonight with this Miami Dolphins team. Could they out-tough Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh?

2:09:50Adam Schefter:No way. That wouldn't be good. Especially with Robert Morris rolling out the rear carpet.

2:09:55Pat McAfee:Oh, you're really throwing Robert Morris under the roof. They might have broke the curse.

2:09:59Adam Schefter:Thank you, Robert. Thanks, Nick.

2:10:03Pat McAfee:Let's get to a break. Mm-hmm. I don't like... I don't like that... Pittsburgh Staples are welcoming the enemy. 5-0 is not a Pittsburgh Staples. Dan Marino probably set it up, to be fair. Came coming back home, you know.

2:10:21Adam Schefter:Can't say no to Dan.

2:10:23Pat McAfee:Dan would have had him down there as Central Catholic, which would have been a pretty sick setup, but I assume Central Catholic said, I don't think we can... Dan, we love you, but we can't be fucking housing and hosting the Miami Dolphins as the Pittsburgh Steelers are on a make-or-break type run. So then they just started getting outside, and they're like, who's that guy that goes on McAfee's show all the time that acts like he hates the city of Pittsburgh? AQ, where's he from? Moon, is there anything in there? Well, there's a drive-in movie theater. We can see if we can practice there. And then also there's a universe.

2:10:53Pat McAfee:Let's call them. They'll let us in.

2:10:55Adam Schefter:Right next to the airport.

2:10:56Pat McAfee:This is actually AQ Shipley that got this done.

2:10:58Adam Schefter:Right next to the airport? Yeah. Thank you, Pittsburgh. Wow. What a nice city.

2:11:04Pat McAfee:It's windy and cold as shit out there. Dolphins are used to it for tonight.

2:11:16Pat McAfee:football is the greatest that's aj hawk the toxic tables here at boston connor and at ty schmidt nine-year nfl vet darius j butler yes they're very good that's cool onesie you got there that's cool cool cool onesie there you got in one half of the hammer down cowboys ap tones pittsburgh steelers host the miami dolphins tonight to wrap up week 15 but also ap tone is a college football author multiple time. There's a lot of news coming out of college ball right now, not just the college football playoff starting on Friday, but also some future movement getting very loud. Yeah, there's five quarterbacks that had big-time news over this last day or two as far as transfer portal or not going to transfer portal, so I just wanted to highlight some of those real quickly.

2:12:02Lenore Sellers. Yeah, a little quickie. Let's get a college football transfer portal quickie. Lenore Sellers, who's a quarterback at South Carolina, He was one of the top prospects potentially for the NFL drafts coming into the season. Had a bit of a down season, but he's going to stay at South Carolina, which is huge news for him and Beamer going into the next season.

2:12:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, great player. Obviously, everybody thinks that South Carolina could beat anybody because Lenora Sellers is the quarterback, to your point. Lenora Sellers, he was a big name for the NFL draft. Arch Manning was a big name for the NFL draft. The season certainly went in a different direction. congrats to Shane Beamer and their NIL, which I assume is going to have to do a whole new renegotiation. Now there's some other massive storylines. Yeah, guys that will be leaving their schools. We'll start with Sam Levitt. He was at Arizona State, led them to the playoffs last season. He is going to be hitting the transfer portal and he'll obviously be one of the more recruited guys coming into next season.

2:12:56Pat McAfee:Is Sam Levitt's leaving Ken Dillingham? Dillingham was getting emotional whenever he signed an extension or is in the middle of signing extension to stay at Arizona State. You can hear him actually saying, there's been a couple other jobs that are offered a lot more money, a lot more everything, roster development, and have so many different connections in the sport that I would like to be, but I love this place, man. I don't know where I'm fucking from here. I wish I was from somewhere else, but I love this place. He has taken an onus on his hometown school to become a great one. His name's everywhere else, but now he's going to have to find a new quarterback, it seems like, going forward.

2:13:30Pat McAfee:Big deal for Ken Dillingham, AJ. Yeah, where do you find him? Like, who do you – you just go try to find someone. I don't know what you do when you have these quarterbacks. I mean, Indiana, obviously, they have Fernando's brother coming up through the wings, I would assume, to be the next guy. But, yeah, every team – every single offseason at this – or actually right at this time of year, like, trying to figure out your roster, what your roster looks like in spring ball, it's wild. Yeah, it is wild. Obviously, you don't know who you have and who you don't have. You talk about what is he going to do out there in Arizona State.

2:13:57Pat McAfee:Well, maybe he goes to the transfer portal and finds some money. Sure. The next two that I wanted to bring up were number one quarterbacks in their class coming out. DJ Lagway is transferring or going to hit the portal from Florida. He was the number one overall recruit a couple years ago. Obviously, his time with Napier down there at Florida didn't go the way that either of them wanted, so now he'll be hitting the transfer portal. And then from Nebraska, the other number one quarterback, five-star Dylan Raiola, is going to be leaving Nebraska as well. Writing was kind of on the wall for this.

2:14:26Pat McAfee:Something happened. I believe they separated with his father. His brother decommitted. And now Dylan Rial is expected to enter the transfer portal. Going back to DJ Lagway, initial meetings with Summerall, I guess, didn't go well. How do you think that went? What do you think that is?

2:14:42Adam Schefter:Oh, no idea. This is one side of the story coming from Chris Hummer.

2:14:46Pat McAfee:Obviously, everybody is going to have their side. I assume Coach Summerall has his own side in this entirety as well. But he said initial meetings didn't go great. I wonder if Summerall was like, hey, you were supposed to be a guy this year. What happened? Why did it not go that way? DJ got pissed. Or maybe DJ is just looking to explore his options anyway.

2:15:03Adam Schefter:Yeah, maybe. Maybe a fresh start is what he needed. I mean, him, and obviously this would be a fresh start with a new coaching staff coming in, but he has all the tools just like Rowley does. But, like, he just looked lost at times, in my opinion, on the field. And that, to me, is coaching system, something he needs to be comfortable in. So I could potentially see him landing on his feet being at a new university and maybe being at the top of the draft when he actually does come out. But this was not shocking, you know, with Napier moving on.

2:15:28Pat McAfee:Raiola, though, this is a pretty big name here now. Yeah. This is a pretty big name here leaving Nebraska. Now, he was committed to Georgia, I do believe, and then Arizona potentially before that. He's obviously been highly sought after for a long time. Matt Rule, head coach of Nebraska, felt like one of his big achievements was getting Dylan Raiola to Nebraska. Started as a freshman, started this year. His dad was offensive line coach. Dad no longer offensive line coach. there at Nebraska. Feels like his name's big, and he has a lot of ball behind him. He's played a lot of football at this point.

2:16:02Yeah, a ton of football, but kind of crazy. He's the only one out of all these guys that's coming off a major, major injury. Is that right? Levin had an injury, but it's not as major. Yeah, like pretty grueling leg injury. So, does he drop because of that? Just if you're thinking as far as like payment and that order of other guys that are available? Has multiple, multiple, multiple years left.

2:16:24Pat McAfee:So maybe there is like a red shirt year coming. Are there incentive NIL deals? Like, can they do that? Hey, if you're healthy on the field and you hit certain things, then we'll give you more? Oh, yeah. A lot of incentive-based NIL. That's why a lot of teams have guys that are forced to play in the bowl games or some teams don't have bowl games. You know, like there is a lot of incentive, I guess, or escalators that could potentially be in there. But I would assume wherever he heads to, there's an understanding that like, hey, next year probably not. Still going to need this. and then whenever we get back in, we'll have to go about that.

2:16:53Pat McAfee:The business of college football, especially if you're a notable name, is very good. Still crazy that you can just kind of get up and leave whenever you want, but he's not the only one. They're not the only ones. Yeah, and then not the biggest name coming into this season, but he's now currently the number one ranked quarterback heading into the portal. Cincinnati's Brendan Sorsby. At one point this year, he had, what, 30 touchdowns to one interception. I think that was going into the Utah game day. He was incredible this year. He's going to hit the portal. Like I said, he's the highest ranked quarterback in the portal right now.

2:17:22And I know in a lot of the teams that you're seeing associated with all these guys, LSU, Indiana, Miami, and Texas Tech are kind of like the biggest ones right now because most of their quarterbacks will be leaving.

2:17:34Pat McAfee:A shout to Hayes Fawcett and On3 being on top of all of it. Hayes, obviously, friend of the program. So then you start thinking, well, did Winnedad say he's going in the Trinidad portal? Soon, soon, a couple weeks out from that. Because if Winnedad, Trinidad doesn't go into the portal, which we all assume he'll be heading to LSU with his offense coordinator, Charlie Weiss Jr. and the entire offensive staff and Lane Kiffin down there at LSU. You assume that's the case. If not, LSU has all the backing, right? That was very open. I think Lane in his open and press conference said, yeah, LSU, Florida, there's a lot of different options.

2:18:10Pat McAfee:This one by far had the most for players and for roster addition. So they're going to be able to get anybody that you would think they would want. Yes, you definitely could. And then some of the other names that people are looking at, one is obviously Winadad. One is Bryce Underward, depending on what happens there. Mason Heinzel, who was the quarterback at Pitt, as a freshman was incredible. Do they have the money to keep him there? And then the quarterback from North Texas, who is coach Eric Morse, leaving for Oklahoma State. Those are all. What's that kid's name? Nustemaker. Yeah, bingo. Drew Nustemaker.

2:18:41Pat McAfee:It feels like he is on a one-way trip to Indiana, brother. That feels like a Kurt Signetti special. I saw Sorsby attached to maybe Indiana as well, as well as Levitt. Because of what Sig's done already with transfer quarterbacks back-to-back season, they are now just a transfer quarterback school. So is Miami. I think a lot of places will think that. Drew Mestemaker is the North Texas kid's name. He was backup in high school, right? Yeah, he was a fifth string, too. Not even immediate backup. He was on JV for a while. I don't want to act like we know Signetti because we just know what everybody else knows.

2:19:16Pat McAfee:And he's been on our show a couple times and I've had a chance to meet him and he's invited us to his house. But I'm not acting like we know him, know him, know him. He is a great talent evaluator. One of the things he is looking for is, have you been overlooked a bit? Have you been somebody that has been wronged? That is what we have come to know from Kurt Cignetti. So the kid who was in JV, senior year, and six string and all this shit, and now he's gone on to become who he is. I think that feels like a Kurt Cignetti type quarterback. But once again, Indiana has worked themselves into the chute of being one of the top programs in the country.

2:19:49Pat McAfee:So they can kind of – Kurt Sikhani's at a different position now than he was the last two offseasons, especially with their donors seeing the success that their money's having. So it's an interesting time for a lot of these schools where you can make a couple good decisions in a transfer portal and change everything for you, like Indiana, I guess like Vandy, like a couple other places.

2:20:08Adam Schefter:Yeah, the thing about Indiana Mendoza, what about Cal's quarterback? Did he commit to going back to Cal?

2:20:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, so, Coach, I actually got a couple texts from their new head coach. That's huge. Yeah, their new head coach, Coach Tupi, I believe, Josh. Josh Lapoi. Josh Lapoi. Sorry, I said his name 100 % on me. I got a text from him. As soon as he – so, I guess he signed to be their next head coach, did the press conference, got on a plane, went to Hawaii. It wasn't like a, hey, this is going to be fun, let's do this entire thing. got on a plane directly to Hawaii, meets up with Sangapolitelli, the quarterback for Cal from this last year, freshman who was outrageously good. Certainly earlier in the year, better than the end of the year but end of the year, who all they have, their coach ends up getting fired, there's a new head coach so Sangapolitelli will be staying at Cal Rivera, congrats to him Tosh Lupoi is his name, okay Tosh Lupoi I got a text from a number I did not know and it was like, tell the world until he's staying a cow or whatever.

2:21:08Pat McAfee:And it went to my spam. I didn't even really. So I caught up with it a week after I got the text. I had four text messages. And I'm like seeing it. I'm like reading it. Like who the hell is this? And it's a picture of him with Oose at the house. Like thumbs up like this. It's like I could have broke that news I think. He was trying to be like hey. Damn it. Tell the whole damn world. Yeah because that's the. You know it. You tell the whole damn world. So he was basically like tell the whole damn world. basically in the text i didn't get it i apologize i didn't have his number saved but yeah that was huge deal that was like number one mission is we need to keep them around which is how every coach feels about all these guys and obviously got some great ones about to leave yeah and i believe he played football at cal too so he's got you know vested interests and all that kind of stuff but and this is like i know the playoffs are starting friday but the next what month and a half especially with michigan's head coaching vacancies still needing to be you know filled like there's just so much shit going on with college football right now it is kind of like it's almost mind-numbing this is why college football is the number two sport in the country it's not just on the field it's not just how awesome the environments are the best in america uh is what college football environments are but also now we got a lot of business and drama and shit and i know people don't necessarily love it but it is good for sport to have a lot of action a lot of drama i'm not saying it's good for the teams i'm not saying it's good for the universities i'm just telling you for the sport as a whole talking points and subjects are only going to magnify even more with the growth of the sport and that's a good thing not a bad thing aj hawk yeah i mean i i guess if you're a coach how how far down the road can you try to like do you develop quarterbacks anymore?

2:22:53Do you recruit guys, give them scholarships and develop them? Did you guys?

2:22:56Pat McAfee:I think you did, right? Was saying? Yeah, well, he came from Alabama after Coach Saban left. He was there for a short stay, but yeah. There for a year, right? Watches Will, then kind of takes over. Now he's at a Heisman presentation ceremony and he's not getting asked any questions by anybody. Just kind of off in the corner, the guy who might break the college football record. Yeah, AJ, you obviously love this for the Ohio State Buckeyes, but it's like he was there for a year, right developed. I think that is something that took place. Dante Moore at Oregon. He was there for a year behind Dylan Gabriel after they got him to transfer out of UCLA.

2:23:29Ty Simpson for years and years and years at Bama.

2:23:32Adam Schefter:That's what's going on the quarterback if they're committed to going and actually sitting and waiting. Or they're like, fuck it, I want to go somewhere else and play now.

2:23:39Pat McAfee:Yeah. Situations are situational. All those things for Ohio State that Julian's saying, obviously the Jeremiah Smith tweet, the losing to Indiana in the Big Ten championship. Yeah. We all know. I think we all know. What's that? They're going to be motivated. Ohio State's about to be some motherfuckers in this playoff, I think. Yeah. I think if anything tells us about human case studies, whenever you get a bunch of elite dudes to feel disrespected, it normally, even if they actually are, it's warranted or not warranted. But if you just get them all to believe that they are disrespected, Man, what that does for a group, AJ, is special.

2:24:23Pat McAfee:And I think Buckeyes fans, you couldn't even wait for me to finish what I was saying there about saying when you saw it. Yep, that's a good thing. That is a good thing right there. There's a lot of that happening with the Buckeyes, AJ. Yeah, it's a great thing seeing Julian saying like that. Obviously, you feel bad for him in the moment, but guess what? All those O-linemen, they're going to be going extra hard through the whistle. There's that defense. They're going to be standing up for their guy, and they want people to know how good they are. I mean, you guys were on the field pregame when they played Tennessee last year at Ohio State in the freezing cold.

2:24:52Like, that warm-up, that whole session, like, that had a different feel to it. You know, like, that was a pissed-off football team. Absolutely pissed off coaching staff and everybody. And they just, yeah, they started out and they didn't look back. So, I'm not saying everything goes as swimmingly as that last season did. It's always a roller coaster up and down. But I think Ohio State's in a great spot. I mean, they demolished everybody.

2:25:12Pat McAfee:It was just from jump, too. Oh, yeah. And you talk about Jack Sawyer and the boys as the shirtless Tennessee guys were running around the field trying to tell everybody how tough they were. Jack Sawyer and them were like, all right, let's fight them. Like, actually, let's go ahead and do this. It was a special time for that Buckeyes team. Can they find that magic again? It feels like society is giving them all the ingredients they need. Yeah, and they got the toughest road, you could argue. Like, sure, they do have a bye, but they get the winner of A &M and Miami. So who knows what's going to happen there, but I think we all have our assumptions.

2:25:44and then possibly Georgia. Like, Georgia's been just as dominant.

2:25:48Pat McAfee:Or Tulane. No, no chance. And Ole Miss also, no chance. So Georgia, you could argue, has the easiest path, save Ohio State to get to the natty. But that Ohio State, that bye week, we've talked about it being bad, might be a massive one for Ohio State to rest, especially after those two go to war. I'm appreciative that football is back up and running for them this weekend. last year it felt like forever I don't know if it got changed or if this is the same schedule as it was but boy I'm thankful Friday kicks it all off Saturday kicks it all off and we get rolling the teams with the buys last year did not benefit from them felt like they were actually more rusty than the teams that got to play but wouldn't have mattered if they didn't we shall see and what these teams look like just two weeks after the season ends for all of them as the transfer portal was right in the middle of all this so it's crazy time to be alive we'll be live from Texas A &M hosting Miami on Saturday at noon on ESPN2 and the ESPN app.

2:26:50Pat McAfee:We're so, I mean, it's outrageous that we're allowed to do this just every year. This is one of those things that we're doing that we think is just so stupid. It's like Super Bowl Radio Row when we're there. We think it's so stupid because how nice the set is, how many people come by and what we get to do. Like this is outrageous. We get to do this. This is one of those ones where we're living the dumbest lives of all time and it'll be fully on display on Saturday at noon on ESPN2. And you can follow along as we realize that in the moment, D-Bug.

2:27:18Adam Schefter:I can't wait. This is my favorite thing to do, you know, since being on this sports media journey, being on the field, boots on the ground, calling the game from field level, you know, the interaction that we have with the players, sometimes the coaches, the fans, like other camera people, like it's all.

2:27:35Pat McAfee:Spanx, we'll see how he does. I saw him on TV the other night. Go ahead, AJ. No, the end zone view that we get, we stand like on the field basically in the end zone until people try to get us to move back a little bit. Like it's a special thing to sit there and watch the biggest college football game of all time. Yeah. In real time, like right there on the field. It's yeah, it's just a wild situation. It's absolutely awesome. Shout out to Omaha allowing us to kind of do and craft whatever we think would be good. Shout out to everybody that's a part of this. Shout out Ben Ward. I believe he's back.

2:28:07Pat McAfee:You know, shout out Dish. I believe he'll be back out there. So we'll be hopefully making the game better if you were to follow along with. Although Fowler and Herbstreet will obviously have their call on ABC and ESPN, I assume. We are available on ESPN2 for an alternative option. Now, we can't really see the names. We don't know how big of a gain it is. Always a difficult thing to kind of see. Is that a three-yard gain or a 13-yard gain? Not 100 % sure from our perspective. That's going to be difficult for us to tell. So the first quarter, we might be trying to find our way back in there. And we're lucky and thankful to do it.

2:28:44Adam Schefter:You've been there before, too. This will be my first time. It looks unbelievable on TV.

2:28:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, they are all in. They are all in. Even when they were ass, that place was all in. Now they're really fucking good. And they are – it's a special place, man. I've talked about this last week whenever we mentioned this that we're going to do it every time I came back and I think you guys would be able to correct me here or not game day when I come back on Mondays and we chit chat about places obviously good conversation about the spots hey this food was this crowd was like this felt like early they maybe weren't in or they were in then they fell out late like there's always like a recap of the college game day universities because I get a chance to go and experience things that like not everybody gets to do it's like it's a very cool part of that entire thing is just seeing how certain places operate college station i think always was a very jovial conversation on monday morning about because i was gifted full fucking cowboy fit the second time i was there hat fucking buckle boots the whole thing like hey welcome back to town just want to make sure and the guy full on fucking i mean it was just like very thank every time i've been down there i've been very thankful i think that's come across in our conversations yeah without a doubt and then it's just kind of the cherry on top that you know if you're going to Texas A &M.

2:30:03The dudes of Dude Perfect are probably always a stone's throw away. Tyler's somewhere. Purple Hoser's somewhere. That's something I've been thinking about as well. I was like, holy shit, am I maybe going to meet the dudes this weekend? There's a chance. We should have Tyler do something on the simulcast. Yep. Not a terrible idea. Take a snap in the game.

2:30:26Pat McAfee:Well, I don't know if we can get a uniform on him. We're going to have to check his eligibility in that whole thing. Get him to dunk on the goalpost. He can dunk on the goalpost, I bet. Trash can, for sure, right? Just easy. Oh, yeah. I mean, we could easy trash can, Gatorade bottle, just old school. I mean, that's the most basic trick shot. Hey, this will be for a$100 ,000 giveaway on X. We'll give 20 people$5 ,000, Tyler, if you're able to bury this Gatorade bottle or a bottle of some sort into a trash can. One shot only, Tyler. One shot only. No one tolerates. Yeah. Drilling that. Yeah. And making that kick down there last year.

2:31:07Pat McAfee:Outrageous. Thought he had no chance. Athlete. I think he kicked a field goal, too, on their channel, like, threw an upright leg. It was like this. Yep. Unbelievable what he's able to accomplish. That's the dudes. That is him. College football, we appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, here it is, this fucking guy. Boom. Easy. He had to have played soccer, right? We got virtual goalposts. Oh, he owns a soccer team. He owns everything. He does. He owns everything, too. He does. And that body armor tastes damn good and refuels you. Anything. Nice. All right, Tyler, we'll see you this weekend, hopefully.

2:31:36Pat McAfee:Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to do something that we get to do every single Monday, which is kind of test the temperatures, the fan bases around the entire country. How's everybody feeling about their teams? How's the fanhood? And how are the mindsets? Well, I put out a tweet saying, hey, I want to hear from you. Let me know how you feel and what do you think needs to be done. All you got to use is... Hashtag I don't want to overreact. but and Ty goes through them and finds his favorites. It ended up being the number two trend on X. We appreciate everybody participating and obviously we know it's not about us.

2:32:09Pat McAfee:It's about ball. Let's get to the tweets. This one's from Boston Conner, big Patriots fan. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But New England has everything in front of them still. We all wanted that victory. Bad. But that isn't the plan. Vrabel is going to use this loss like HGH to get the boys juiced up for the playoff run that this team is capable of. I agree, Con, I don't know about the HGH, maybe the horse stuff that people were taking back in the day. I think this is everything that Vrabel could have ever wanted for motivation for a young team that hasn't really been here yet, Conman. Yeah, no doubt about it.

2:32:41I think Sunday was a big time. This is what it's like to have an MVP, and this is what it's like to be in an MVP conversation. Drake Major is not there yet. The team as a whole, I think you could argue, is not there yet. Injuries on both sides for the Bills and for the Patriots. But if they can get healthy and if they can close the right way to the season, rather, I do think there's a chance they can go on a run. But once again, Josh Allen putting on that cape. He's Superman in the snow, baby.

2:33:07Pat McAfee:Yes, he is. And I don't know if there was snow. I know it was cold. I appreciated J.J. Watt in real time, accurately describing what Drake May did there. Arm punt, 49-yard arm punt right there, ball down inside the 10. We'll take that over a punt. I appreciate that piece of information out there. Travion Henderson obviously has a couple explosive plays and scores. He scored too soon, though. Did he score too soon is potentially the question. What was the time of possession in the second half, Conman? Yeah, in the second half, the Bills had the ball for 21 minutes, 15 seconds, and the Patriots had the ball for 8 minutes, 45 seconds.

2:33:40Biggest thing, too, third quarter. They had 10 total plays, one rushing play. If you go back and look at it, I think they averaged nine, nine and a quarter per rush, but we just did not have the ball enough in the second half. Josh Allen is still Josh motherfucking Allen. And, yes, James Cook is very, very good at football.

2:34:00Pat McAfee:And so are the Patriots, though. You know, you could be a good team and lose late right now. Like, teams are good right now. Yeah. The only thing that matters is you don't lose in the playoffs. Now, granted, it's possible. But you're going to lose a game or two here down the stretch to a team that's very good and also capable of doing what you're doing.

2:34:15Adam Schefter:Absolutely. A lot of people were looking at this game as, like, the test. Okay, Patriots, great record coming off the bye week. a pretty good opponent, especially Josh Allen, that quarterback, coming to your house, you got a chance to get the hat and t-shirt. Then he just kind of got outplayed down the stretch, but Josh Allen he's going to do that to a lot of people, leading the NFL in fourth quarter passing yards and touchdowns, and then kind of on the flip side, you know, Bo Nix was kind of the same thing. Hey, can he do it against a good team, good Packers? So, I think the Patriots still be in it at the end, but it will be tough at this point, especially with 15 been out, to bet against Josh Allen.

2:34:47Pat McAfee:Okay, so that's what I was about to say. Down the stretch, you think Josh Allen can do it this year? And do you think it'll be held against him that he didn't beat Patrick Mahomes? So Josh Allen goes through the AFC playoffs here and gets to the Super Bowl, which obviously the Buffalo Beals have been trying to do for some time and had the team in our eyes to be able to do that over the past few years. If they were able to do that and do everything and go, this offseason, they would immediately say, he didn't have to play at Mahomes, so that's exactly the reason why, which is kind of bullshit, but that's the world that we live in.

2:35:14Pat McAfee:But this Bills team, you think they can do it?

2:35:16Adam Schefter:Yeah, I think that would be stupid if people held it against them. They will. Yeah, because Mahomes, if he was hurt, let's say week three, maybe, but since he got hurt when they were kind of already eliminated, you know, he didn't make it to the dance. So if Josh is able to get to the dance and then make his way to the Super Bowl and win the championship, that won't be held against him. The defense, the run defense is their biggest heel. So Josh Allen, this offense, historically he's been unbelievable in the playoffs. If they can go and put up 35, 40 points a game and kind of take the other team's rushing offense out of it, yes.

2:35:47Adam Schefter:But, yeah, with Mahomes out of the picture, I think they can make a run and win it all.

2:35:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, and we started going through all the teams, and we were just putting ourselves on a Friday having to pick the games. And we're like, you picking against Josh Allen with Bump? You picking against Josh Allen with Bump? And it's like, am I picking the Bills? Am I picking the Bills right now? I never could have expected that at this stage, but they are so fucking good, especially because Josh Allen is so fucking good. Yeah, very interesting, too, if you look at this playoff picture. Like, would you want to be, and I'm asking you guys, like, Would you want to be the two seed or the six seed? I'm not sure if the Bills are five or six, but if you're the two seed and you've got to play the Texans at home and then possibly play, who knows, the Jags or whatever, what would you kind of rather do as far as path?

2:36:36Of course you want home field, but do you want to play the Texans in the first round? Because now that's what I'm looking at as a Patriots fan. I'm like, shit, that five or six is still not sure about that. That sixth seed almost might be better than the two.

2:36:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think C.J. Stroud and the Texans' defense is a scare. I think that is going to be a hard out. Yeah. I think that Texans' defense is a nightmare. Now, I'm not saying that the Broncos' defense isn't a nightmare, but we've seen a couple people have success against them. Houston Texans' defense, since they've become the defense that they are, it's not a lot of good times. Nobody's having real good. the NFL does not want the Houston Texans in prime time down the stretch in the playoffs because what they are going to do the other team's offense which is where all the stars are is just going to smother them and that is literally what they have been and then CJ is a guy we know he can be a guy if he performs as a guy it's like with that defense anybody can win so it's like nobody wants the Texans right now and they don't even lead the AFC South the Jacksonville Jaguars do it's a fascinating little AFC development I say this with all due respect and if you pop that back up there for me, Foxy.

2:37:43If you're the AFC North winner who's going to be the four seed, you want the five seed to stay the same. If you're the Jaguars, you'd love the Chargers to drop to six. And if you're the Patriots, you'd love for them to drop to seven. And that's with all due respect to the Chargers, but I don't think you want to play Josh Allen. I don't think you want to play the Texans defense.

2:37:58Pat McAfee:So we should not be popping up a graphic that's wrong whenever you want to. It's not wrong. It's not wrong? No. Okay, so you said Chargers dropped to six. No, I'm saying if they dropped to six. Oh, gotcha. You were saying Well, I don't understand how it works week to week because the Bills have been the five seed for a long time. And then I thought the Chargers were the six and then a week later they flip. But I know it's tiebreakers and all that shit. It just makes no sense. The Chargers are the five over the six because they win the tiebreaker with Buffalo Bills based on best win percentage in conference games.

2:38:24Yeah, which last week was different. That's why I legitimately did not know.

2:38:27Pat McAfee:Okay, got it. Yeah, I thought we potentially had that wrong. Shout out to the graphic maker for getting it right whenever we put it up there. But it is fascinating how all this can kind of change the path to the Super Bowl. and there are some really difficult ones.

2:38:41Adam Schefter:If you're up there at the top, fuck who you play. Yeah, you're right.

2:38:45Pat McAfee:We got good defense, too. We got good defense, too. That's how players feel. Most players. As they should. They're worried about playing us is what you're saying. They're scared to play us no matter what team you are. Yeah, have to get to that belief at least. You know, have to get to that belief at least. And by the way, seven seeds won a Super Bowl before. Anybody can do it. Anybody can do it. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from EpicNormy. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But what they're going to say now, the Broncos are a killing machine. Death, taxes, and a Broncos win every week guaranteed.

2:39:17Pat McAfee:Longest win streak in the NFL. Longest home win streak in the NFL. Best record in the NFL. Best team in the NFL. Your Super Bowl. 60? Yeah. Champions! Denver Broncos. I love this from Normie. Were the Broncos fans flexing their shit in this or no? Yeah, I think Broncos fans have felt disrespected for the last six or seven weeks, which is kind of weird because I think it's maybe different for us because going into the season, they were the Cinderella. Everyone was picking them, but it kind of has been. People have been trying to poke holes in their resume as they've just continued to win. It's, hey, this is a great defense, but Bo Nix just isn't there yet.

2:40:00Their offense isn't good enough. Wait until these guys play someone good. And then, again, yesterday, there was a moment there where the Packers were very close to completely taking control of that game. And then, if you watch that whole thing, it's not hard. It'd be very hard not to think, like, hey, Bo Nix could go win these guys a Super Bowl. He was outstanding yesterday. And, again, their defense didn't play great all day. But then in the fourth quarter, when they got the lead and they needed to get stops, I think they hadn't sacked Love through the first three quarters, maybe. And they had at least four sacks in the last, I don't know, five minutes of the fourth quarter.

2:40:38So it was like closing time when you absolutely have to have it. Like the Broncos just showed up.

2:40:43Pat McAfee:Bo, Drake, Jaden, Caleb, we're dancing with it. Like greatest draft class in the history right now. Early. We're very fucking early. But, boy, we are dancing with it. Yeah, we're very early. But it's hard to argue at this point. Like even looking at Jaden this year, sure, you can just call it a watch. You got hurt. but look at the progression of the guys and how much better they're getting. Like Drake May and Bo Nix and Caleb have all made massive steps. Now, I don't know about Jaden. Hopefully next year he bounces back, but yeah, you can go ahead and look at nine. If I'm looking at the Vikings and you're just strictly from outside looking and not a fan at all, like you are definitely buying stock in nine.

2:41:23You look at the teams that he's beat. He beat the Bears in primetime, and yes, it was just one good quarter and it was a massive comeback. But then in this primetime game in Dallas, he puts on a show. He could be a big-time player, big-time moments type of guy.

2:41:38Pat McAfee:And he's acknowledging that his form and technique is ass. That's what they said last night. Collinsworth was like, here's a side-by-side of him and Josh. They both are basically very much on their front foot. They're off balance. They've been able to do that because of who they are their entire careers. The Vikings and J.J. have acknowledged that, but that's for him to work on in the offseason. Then Justin Jefferson's brother was a quarterback, I heard Chris Collinsworth say. So, like, Chris Collinsworth talked to Justin Jefferson about not being a diva and kind of not getting pissed off. Justin Jefferson said, my brother's a quarterback.

2:42:10Pat McAfee:I understand what they're going through. But I think everybody there kind of acknowledges, like, J.J. is nowhere near as good of a passer as he could become or as good of a passer as we need him potentially to be on some plays. But that's only up and to the right. The moxie, the leadership, all that shit seemingly is everything that J.J. is. Yeah, he just needs to stay healthy. because that was kind of his big thing is we talked ad nauseum about, like, hey, this guy needs reps, this guy needs to play, and then how many games did he end up playing in this year? So that's a big part of it. He got shit on for that Packers game at Lambeau, but realistically that was like his fourth start of the season when we were in week 12 or whatever it was.

2:42:47So he was kind of behind the eight ball this entire year, but you certainly see glimpses of it every week.

2:42:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, it was just like when Josh Allen was just a freak show athlete with a great arm. He's going to make a play every once in a while. And then all the intangibles, nine has. Well, J.J. McCarthy has. We'll see if nine is able to continue doing that. Kill nine. Keep J.J. And we can't wait to see it. I did not like that they put Phil Rivers' face on to nine, whenever nine was doing that thing. He got nine. Happened to Drake as well. I asked Elon to delete it. Joe Burrows, too. He kind of deserves it.

2:43:24Adam Schefter:Joe Burrow got nine, too. He's been getting a lot, though. He is number nine. but I asked I asked I did not I did not love it that one's good with the face paint there too

2:43:39Pat McAfee:that's a hater report they're going to get you they're artists on her it's very well done which is why I told Elon people don't know if this is real or not so fucking delete it the Burrow ones are getting worse than the 9 edit honestly The thing about Burrow just being so bummed out, I don't know if we have an overreaction for Burrow or not. I don't want to dive into it right now. I don't think there was one. They've given up. He needs a – I heard you. I heard you talking about maybe a little ceremony? I think so. It does feel like that's where we've gotten. Yeah, and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, by the way.

2:44:18Pat McAfee:I'm just saying there are options to kind of get a little bit of a reset from our understanding of what could happen. Now, there's people that obviously have done the whole thing and said that they didn't like it or whatever, and it's been terrible. And I'm not saying everybody should do it, but there comes a time, I think, in some people's lives, whether it's football or other things that have drove them mentally to be to a spot where they can't get out of whatever. And it feels like this is an alternative to kind of change your perspective, change your mindset and everything like that. And we saw it work for the positive for a guy who went on to go back-to-back MVPs whenever he was potentially searching for something as well.

2:44:57Pat McAfee:So, yeah, I'm not saying this is a guarantee that he's going to do this or he needs to do this. But I am saying it feels like he's at a state mentally where it's like, I don't like what I'm seeing out of Joey B. Too talented, too successful, too good of a teammate, too appreciated, too liked to be at a point in his life where he's not happy, you know? Absolutely. You know what I mean, AJ? Especially like when you think about like whenever he's done playing football some days like man i wish i like it is true like you wish you would enjoy the moments more that you when you look back and you realize how special it is which i'm sure he does he's very seems like a very appreciative dude but uh i don't know like it just doesn't whatever's going on it would not be fun right now i think in cincy jamar chase said i don't ever have to ask him to uplift him and i might have to do that and then he's the one that kind of said there's a lot going on in people's lives and it's like joey we want to let you know man you're great for ball you have been great for ball and uh we appreciate your contribution to sport and anything that isn't making you feel like that and life and society let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there brother let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there and let's just let's just keep it going you're special brother you're one of one and uh we need you to stay in ball because of how great you are now if it's strictly because you guys can't play for a super bowl this year everybody was kind of saying that was probably going to happen with the way you constructed your roster So it's kind of a give-and-take situation for this year.

2:46:20Pat McAfee:Hopefully next year, even better. Let's get to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from ShippedIt at ShippedIt. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Chiefs are officially no longer the Chiefs for the first time in a decade. And sadly, we don't really know when or if they might be the Chiefs again. The Chiefs are likely going to look very different next season. Perhaps never the same. and that fucking wolf's just rotting in jail watching it all they need to break him out I'm sure he's trying we need to keep him behind bars that man is a psycho I don't know if it's him it's time to burn back Red Extreme I did see a couple other Chiefs super fans on banisters and stuff this weekend it feels like they got a lot of those brewing over there but that's what happens whenever you win all the time.

2:47:15Pat McAfee:Fandom becomes super fandom. Casual becomes obsession. When you're on top of the world, sometimes you can fly a little too close to the sun. Is that what happened to the Kansas City Chiefs? We shall see. And can they reset? Is this a delay or a deletion of a dynasty, AJ? This is a delay. You got Patrick Mahomes. You are not deleting anything. Amen, brother. That's how I feel as well. Hopefully Shiptic can get back on board with that. Let's go to the next one. This is from Caldeme at God of the Voyage. Really? Is this who you guys' brain do whenever you're doing voyages? No, I don't know. This guy seemed like he's into some goofy video game bullshit.

2:47:56That was my first take based on his profile.

2:47:58Pat McAfee:Bill, what's the video game that God of the Voyage, Caldeme, would potentially be a part of? He's 30 seconds behind, so we'll wait for him to catch up. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. but the bills are inevitable. Half our starters wouldn't even make rosters, and yet, as long as you have Joshua, Patrick, motherfucking Allen, every game is within reach. No lead is safe. Hear me now. Quote me later. Buffalo Bills are your Super Bowl... 60. ...champions! A lot of people crown themselves as Super Bowl champions. I like that this time of year. I like the hope. I like the optimism. I like that Joshua's middle name is Patrick, and I like that they let James Cook.

2:48:39Pat McAfee:Shout out to the Buffalo Bills. This is a huge win. Belt the ass early. So showing the resiliency, and I like the fact half our starters wouldn't even make other teams' rosters, D-Bud. What does that mean, you think, whenever you talk about a squad?

2:48:51Adam Schefter:I wouldn't go that far. But, yeah, whenever you have Josh Allen, like we said earlier, it would be hard to bet against him. If you're a fan of this team, you've got to feel very, very good about your chances going forward with the Chiefs being out of it, with that history there. But with James Cook, they can run the ball. Actually, it's based on their tight end combination. Then some of the players on defense, Benford, who has been their best corner, he got banged up, and he should be back at some point doing a run. And then Ed Oliver, who changed their run defense, he tore his pec or bicep, and there's been some rumblings about maybe him making a late playoff return if they're able to get there.

2:49:27Adam Schefter:So, yeah, if I'm a Bills fan, I feel damn good about myself.

2:49:30Pat McAfee:Magic the Gathering is the game that Caldheem, God of Voyage, is a part of. And what you heard there was Nick giving an immediate smart-ass response to that answer being delivered in the middle of your breakdown of the Buffalo Bills. Sorry, Bucs. Which I appreciate and respect. But, yeah, they're a special group, AJ, I think is what we're all saying. I think they're a magical group, you know. Yeah, they're magical. Could someone explain Magic the Gathering and how you actually play? Does anybody know? Well, it's very similar to that other one where you do the thing where you're around for a long time, you create a lot of stuff, you shake hands, and then you go around and do your thing.

2:50:02Pat McAfee:The Elgin Ring? Exactly. It's a card game though, right? It's a card game. It's in the name. You gather and there's magic. It's a more nerdy Pokemon. I think that's the best way to put it. What? What? Well, what do you do in Pokemon even? Maybe Burrow Needs. I don't know. You go. You Pokemon guy. Remember, I found out that we weren't going to win the Super Bowl because our offensive linemen were doing it in training camp instead of paying attention to what we had going on. You battled Pokemon. Were you there for that? Were you there that year for that? Oh, I think so, yeah. It was outside the cafeteria.

2:50:30Pat McAfee:We all saw it.

2:50:32Adam Schefter:Yeah, that was interesting.

2:50:33Pat McAfee:You got to come over here. Guys are walking into traffic. Didn't people die? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they did. I mean, you guys, you know, if you die doing that, it's on you, pal. You committed. You committed. Yeah. I mean, my dad told me that one time when I went Bigfoot hunting in the hills of Georgia. It's very true. If you die doing that, this one's on you. This is how this thing's over. We're not going to feel bad for you. That's what he's saying. I said, wait a minute. You're doing what with who? If you die out there, like, expected and also on you. Got it. I'm going to go find Bigfoot, though.

2:51:05Pat McAfee:What if I fucking get him? Didn't find him. And I'm alive. Win-win. Let's go to the next one, shall we? Tanner Rhymes. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But this might have been an all-time bummed-out weekend. Packers had a nine-point lead in the second half, and Super Bowl future went to absolute shite. I was told to never give up by a certain man, but he too tapped out. I'm tapping on this season. Heal up, boys. I hope that this is not what this has become, what John Cena and the Green Bay Packers, Todd. There were so many of these today. So many. Just so many. I saw that screenshot 20 ,000 times this morning, probably.

2:51:43And I just said, you know what? I feel you, brother. I'm kind of feeling the same way. I'm not where I was this morning, but I get feeling like that, especially after watching Cena this weekend. Were you smiling while it was happening? Because Cena was content with it.

2:51:56Pat McAfee:Didn't feel like you guys were really content. He was. He was. It made me laugh, so yeah, I was smiling. Maybe you're content because you lose Mike and now the expectation is we're not probably going to win. So maybe you do smile a little bit. Yeah, I think now I don't have to be as disappointed if they don't win at all. Because it's like, you know. Cena creates the amount of his face obviously coming into that thing. This one is going to be around for that. Oh, yeah. I love that one. WWE put out the 4K version of it. So it had another life, another birth.

2:52:29Adam Schefter:They knew what they were doing with that. It's a good move.

2:52:32Pat McAfee:And people say it was a bad ending. It's going to live forever, Bone. For the business.

2:52:40Pat McAfee:Still crying. Yeah, he's stupid. Was he more angry or more sad? I think it was all of the stages. Angry early, though. Very angry immediately, which led to his group texting and public posting. Some people tagged me in some of his posts going, and good luck. Pat's going to fire you for saying this or whatever. It's like, you should have seen the group text. You should have seen the group text, this guy. He's allowed to have his passion. Yeah, exactly. He's allowed to feel how he wants to feel. And WWE's allowed to say what they want to say tonight, 8 o 'clock Eastern, Netflix, WWE, Monday Night Raw, live from Hershey, Pennsylvania.

2:53:16Pat McAfee:Is Bone driving? Huh? Is Bone driving? That's where he was going to drive to. For the Hardy concert. For the opening weekend. No, it wasn't even that. No, it was Hardy. Was it, yeah? I thought it was like someone a lot lesser. Joe, three and a half hours for Hardy, yeah. 16-hour drive round trip he was going to do opening weekend of NFL season. It was a meet and greet, though. Yeah, and he didn't even have tickets. He was just going to stand outside the door. Let's get to the next overreaction. You deserve this, Bone. This is from NoicePants at jwatt23. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. But?

2:53:50Pat McAfee:The Chargers are Joe Ault and Rashawn Slater away from being unstoppable. Defense is flying around, catching bodies. Herbert finding ways to win with one hand and no blocking. Give him his two generational tackles back, and the rest of the league is fucked. I actually agree with that. Watching that game, they're on a smaller screen. They're on a smaller screen up here. Herbert was just running for his life the entire time. And then all Chargers fans kept saying was, yes, this is what it has been, basically. They drafted offensive linemen. They get injured. They try to fix it. They get injured.

2:54:23Pat McAfee:Jim Harbaugh says the only thing that matters is protecting Herbert. For some reason, they just can't get the Golden Goose any protection, and he's running for his goddamn life, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, obviously things can happen, but you could argue like, hey, if his offensive line is halfway decent, then he doesn't have a broken left hand right now. And their offense looks much differently, but you're probably thinking going into the playoffs like, hey, the Chargers, you know, with an AFC that's kind of wide open with the exception of a couple teams who might be a little bit better. Their defense is unreal.

2:54:57You could argue, hey, this team could win a Super Bowl, but I think it's pretty evident with their offensive line struggles. They're probably not going to win the Super Bowl. I looked this up earlier when we were talking about Mahomes and how much he's run this year and stuff like that. He ran 69 times this year and was sacked 34 times. Justin Herbert has ran the ball 70 times this year and has been sacked 49 times.

2:55:20Pat McAfee:Yeesh. 15 more than Patrick Mahomes is getting banged up, plus another 15 hits running the ball or whatever. Herbert is special. I think we agree with that. Is he enough to just be able to win this by himself, Stephen?

2:55:31Adam Schefter:Oh, it's hard. We rarely see that ever in the NFL. We saw that with Joe Burrow. He got the closest without having an offensive line that can actually protect you. You're going to get the shit beat out of you. So, no, it would be too tough. Tweet was great, though. You have those guys who you thought they were. You drafted and paid them. They can go and win the Super Bowl. They have everything else. They have weapons. They have the defense. They have all those things. But without an offensive line, we talk about every year with AQ in the trenches, you don't have a real shot. They feel snake bit by injury every year.

2:55:59I feel like this is the same story with the Chargers, and that is what really sucks, especially with a QB like Justin Herbert. He is a generational type of guy, but it feels like every single year they're dealing with injuries to the most important positions too, Not just like a linebacker. Not that linebackers aren't important, AJ. Calm down. But to the left tackles and to their pass rusher and to their corner, it's like almost every single year it is something vital.

2:56:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, let's go to the next one here. Bear Force 1 at BearDonNow77. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the NSC North is the Bears division. Beat the shite out of the Brownies JV team. And shadoops, another INT. Toyota-thon in Green Bay, over. Ford-a-thon in Detroit, over. Onward and upward. See you in the playoffs where we will be hosting. Hashtag good, better, best. Bears are for real, AJ. It's a whole new culture there. And this seems like it's the next 10 years or so. Yeah, it does seem like Ben Johnson's culture has got in there and his offensive scheme has really taken place. And Caleb, I believe when they're a couple times, Caleb looked and gave a little thing to the crowd.

2:57:12like, oh, I'm not cold or whatever. A cold doesn't affect me. I know he was feeling it pretty good. So I think that's a big step for them. And also for Chicago, credit to them in the grass. I'm sure they spray-pinned some of it, but it actually doesn't look like it's nine inches long like it usually is and all torn up.

2:57:24Pat McAfee:Well, completely frozen. Obviously, it's going to be a sticky turf. We did see some pigeons on the ground during punts yesterday and also flying over top of the wide receivers. The pigeons like to get in there. The pigeons were there whenever the football was shite. They certainly wanted to get a little bit of a closer view on a good Chicago Bears football team. Yeah, there's nothing you can say that's going to make me think those birds are real. But should dupes, that is unbelievable. I don't know if I've ever seen a should dupes. That was comedy. Without Roman Dunze and T.J. Moore and Caleb Williams, if they actually start to kind of get going together, Luther burdening him, especially now for these rookies.

2:57:59I mean, their defense has two or three picks every single week. Granted, it was should dupes in the bronze, but still, when they get their hands on ball, they do hold on to them.

2:58:09Pat McAfee:29, I think, or is it 30? 30 picks. It's a greedy bunch back there. It's a greedy bunch back there. Living off of turnovers, is that work in the playoffs? Not typically. Definitely not. I thought we were about a year out from the Chicago Bears being like Super Bowl contending team. If it's negative 20 and your quarterback's spinning it like that and you guys are thumping like that, I'm like, wait a minute. Maybe this team can. You can have a chance, yeah. You can have a chance. It'll be close, like, no matter what. Absolutely. Congrats to the Bears. Love what you're doing up there. Are you at the good, better, or best state of the team currently?

2:58:48Pat McAfee:And have you never let it rest yet? And when does the good become the better and the better become the best if you haven't? We shall see with Ben Johnson. Let's get to the next one here. It's from DC Man. At Triple I, DC Man, Triple I. Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But the Rams game broke, Donald. He's been a shell of his early season self and needs to get his ginger head out of his ass and quickly before he throws the season away like one of his four INTs against the Rams. If we lose Thursday, pack up the season. Thursday's gigantic for the NFC West. We got Rams-Seahawks on Thursday night.

2:59:24Pat McAfee:Thank fucking God that is what's kicking off Week 16. The NFC West is the NFL's best. We all agree with that. Them kicking off Week 16, special. And to his point, though, Sam Donald is going to have to be productive because we know Matthew Stafford and the Rams offense certainly are. We need Sam Darnold. I'm sure he remembers last year and how his ending in Minnesota, he knows he needs to play well down the stretch at the end of the season. So, I mean, the Seahawks are by no means out of it. Obviously, 11-3, they're still a very good team. But, yeah, Thursday, what an awesome treat for us, actually, to get a great game like that on Thursday night.

2:59:58Pat McAfee:The Lions are lurking, obviously. But here's the top four odds-on favorites to win the Super Bowl. The Green Bay Packers, plus 750 post Micah loss. Philadelphia Eagles, plus 550. They get a huge win over the Raiders. Saw Bradley Cooper at the game. Oh, wow. It's good to see Bradley Cooper out there having a good time being happy. The Seahawks, plus 350. They just ruined River's entire life. And then the Rams, plus 170. This is to win the NFC West? Are these the odds? Yes. Oh, this is to win the NFC as a whole. Yes. Got it, got it. To win the NFC as a whole. So whenever you talk about it, you're talking about those four teams whenever it comes to the DraftKings odds, and we get two of them on Thursday night.

3:00:37Pat McAfee:That's awesome. Huge. This is what it's supposed to be. Yeah, this will pretty much decide home field advantage. I was going to say, and yes, it will, and there's a team that isn't on there in the San Francisco 49ers. They still have to play Seattle. So if Seattle beats L.A. on Thursday night and then the Niners beat Seattle, Niners would be the one seed, I believe. Well, let's see, because the Niners got a big one on Monday, which leads to this. Michael Jenkins at SquirrelMan69. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Colts are going to the Super Bowl. Okay. We got Grandpa Rivers throwing piss missiles out there and putting the best team in the NFC in a dogfight for their life.

3:01:15Pat McAfee:We easily ramrod every AFC team going forward. Get ready for the dick down, Jax. Love that. Jax just had the best game of their lives. They're on top of the AFC South. Michael Jenkins says, not for long, my friends. The Colts just did what they did to the Seattle Seahawks, who are a special team, special union. Everybody's talking about Phil wasn't really able to do anything. Have many teams been able to do anything against the Seattle Seahawks? Nope. Let's talk about this defense without a bunch of guys. DeForest Buckner may be back soon. Ooh. Maybe back soon. Obviously, Sauce out, Ward out. We got a lot of injuries on defensive side.

3:01:49Pat McAfee:We held them to six field goals. Sam Donald has been historically great. So I can see why Squirrel Man would be pumped about the Indianapolis Colts. there's a lot of Colts fans that wanted to bow out. There's a lot of very angry Colts fans after this loss. A lot of people saying mean things about the coach. Staying his loss? Oh yeah. Big time. I wanted to pick a positive one because I thought all the Rivers stuff was really cool. Even if you're not a Colts fan that was awesome. Watching him go in there and damn near beat Seattle. But yeah, Colts fans didn't take it that way. This was basically the only positive overreaction there was for the Colts.

3:02:28A lot of it was basically like, well, Grandpa River shit is depends again. A lot of that kind of stuff. A lot of people are about done with Coach Stinken, as they want to say. Yeah, I know, but no one knows what his real name is anymore. It's Coach Stinken. Shane Stinken.

3:02:48Pat McAfee:His name's Shane Stinken. We almost beat the fucking Seahawks. Why were people so upset? Because I believe everyone was making fun of the Colts all week, and they were going to get blown out. and they were 14-point dogs, and then they almost won the game. So why is everyone so... I have no idea. That logo is way too, you know, goopy. It's just no footing out there. Yeah, it's very slick. And whenever you have that much tape on your ankles, once that starts sliding, it's like the bottom of a stilt. You don't wear cleats either. Of course not, because they don't wear a roll. Does he wear new balances?

3:03:17Like the little nubs. Yeah, turf shoes.

3:03:20Pat McAfee:He had to pull them out of a trophy case, too, from my understanding. I mean, he popped up. You're damn right. Yeah, of course he did. Oh, shit. You got to remember, he's seen his defense a thousand times. That's his juke. That was his juke right there, not his slip and fall. Rope and dope. All right, last one here. Last one from Nick Yada Yada at Wise Man's Fool. Hey, hashtag I don't want to overreact, but Lions still have a good road to the playoffs. Need three wins versus Steelers, low-scoring offense, sub-500 Vikings, Bears, whom we've already beaten, compared to zero wins in 2008, this is a parade.

3:03:56Pat McAfee:Toughen up, Lions newbies. MCDC will duct tape team to the victories. Now, Foxy, you like where Nick Yadiyad is coming from, or have you kind of given up hope, too, when the Rams just literally pound you guys right into the dirt? No, I love absolutely everything about this tweet. Normal Lions fans know, hey, you've got three games left, and you can make the playoffs. We're in a good spot, baby. And guess what might happen, all right? Let's say the Packers beat Chicago. Boom, we just got to beat Steelers, Vikings, and then Ben Johnson, MCDC for the playoffs would be an absolutely epic game. So that's what I'm hoping for.

3:04:37Pat McAfee:That's all Lions fans are hoping for at this point. That'd be a football storm. Oh, yeah. That'd be lightning. Oh, that'd be awesome. Good, better, best. First, I'll tell you what, man. Yeah. In Chicago, everyone says golf can't play in the cold. Perfect for Caleb can. Caleb can play in the cold. The Lions absolutely embarrassed him. Last time a lot of people were saying MCDC ran up the score on Ben Johnson. MCDC's calling a great game. I mean, this offense is rolling. It's really the defense just can't stop shit right now. Yeah, and they're right down the middle of you guys. Yeah. I mean, if they're calling Shadoops in minus five degree weather, we're going to be calling him Goops.

3:05:30If Jared Goff goes in there with the season on the line and lays an egg in negative 10-degree weather. Gooplofsky. You can see the me up. I can see the... Jared Goops.

3:05:40Pat McAfee:Threw another pick today. I mean, there's... Yeah, exactly. Throw that in there. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we just have great ball going forward. We expect that tonight. Let's make our picks before we get the hell out of here. AJ, Miami, traveling to Pittsburgh. Going to be 17 degrees tonight? Yes, sir. It's going to be beautiful football weather in Acre Sure. The lights are going to be bright. The Yenzers are going to be in abundance. And Tua Tongvaloa leading a physical Miami Dolphins squad. Our three-point underdogs taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers who still have everything in front of them whenever it comes to maybe going on a Super Bowl.

3:06:21Pat McAfee:Magical run. AJ, you and I pretty close this weekend as we saw the field. I was 9-6. Great to be here. You were 8-7. Great to see you. Continuing to see the field well. So, D-Butt, we will start with you to kind of set the tone, set the trend. You're obviously not with us on Friday, so you're not a part of the PICS graphic. But every Monday, you kind of lead the way here. Do you like the Steelers favored by three at home? Or do you like your Miami Dolphins with 53 % of the public bets traveling to a very cold Pittsburgh?

3:06:50Adam Schefter:Yeah, if you just look at the environment, the time of year, a team being around over 500, history will tell you the Dolphins will lose this game. but it's a brand new Dolphins team since kind of mid-season. Since week eight, they're right in the top of the National Football League when it comes to deploying six or more offensive linemen, and they've been running the ball down people's throats. So I'm going with the Dolphins to definitely cover. Actually, I'm just going to win. I got a win on the road. It's a big game for both ball clubs. I'm going to Miami to win.

3:07:17Pat McAfee:D-Butt says straight up, Miami Dolphins, I don't need the three. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Dive. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino. Gumpy, your final thoughts as AJ and I make our picks? It's time to saddle up, boys. You got to kill the allegations. It's been too long. You got to win in the fucking cold, and you got to do it on Monday night. Here we go, boys. Here we go. Dolphins, here we go. Whoa!

3:07:46Adam Schefter:Dolphins go to the Super Bowl. Here we go. They don't have that song.

3:07:50Pat McAfee:That might have been it right there, what you guys just did. Legit. That in the microphones on this day might have been the thing. That kind of changed everything that happens tonight. Tone, before AJ and I make our picks, how do you feel about what just happened right there? How do you feel about Robert Morris saying, yeah, we'll help you out? How do you feel about Inzers potentially booing Renegade after the long day and long night primetime game? And how do you feel about the Miami Dolphins maybe being a more physical team and you guys being without TJ Watt at this stage? I'm going to take those in order, okay?

3:08:23I am not surprised that Gumpy and D-Bucks slid Dolphins in there for going to the Super Bowl. They are not the tougher team. You just can't be with that color. I am worried about some of the injuries for the Steelers tonight. Both of their left tackles are out. That's right, the starter and the backup are out. TJ Watt is out. The best corner is out also as well tonight for the Steelers. So a little worried about injuries, but Mike Conley doesn't lose on Monday Night Football at home. Steelers don't lose on Monday Night Football at home. They got the color rush. They got the gold end zones. Aaron, 17 degrees.

3:08:56That's where he likes to live.

3:08:57Pat McAfee:Ben Roethlisberger in the building. Seven's in the house. Fifty-three's in the house. Joey Porter's in the building. Fifty-five's in the house. Yeah, it's going to be a good night. AJ, with all that being said, from both parties, potentially grabbing the terrible towel and spitting on it while singing the song for the Steelers. And Bobby Moe's a traitorous school that you should never go to. Oh, mama, I'm in here for my life. Oh, mama, mama, mama. are Yenzers booing tonight or not AJ what do you like I think if the Dolphins somehow come in there and they establish that they're the more physical football team the Yenzers will absolutely boo this team out of Acresure so I think because of that the Steelers are going to be heavily highly motivated I guess I should say and I want the Steelers minus three all night long alright I'll do the same ladies and gentlemen that's overreaction Monday we appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living we're so thankful that we get a chance to chat about sports we're the luckiest and dumbest humans on earth and the fact that you support us we're eternally grateful for we'll be back tomorrow after a big monday night football matchup in pittsburgh what will the storylines be we shall see the nfl never stops or sleeps we appreciate it for that be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change their life we're interesting together team on me team on three one two three goodbye