PMS 2.0 1471 - TOP 5: NFL Week 15 Recap

0:00It's time to get to the top five, top five, top five, top five, top five headlines coming out of week 15 of the NFL season driven by Ram trucking what you do know about Ram trucks is the hemi v8 is back. it's fired up and we're raring to go. Motor Trend has chosen to Ram 1500 as its truck of the year. Wow. Wow, we're at awards. Motor Trend, Ram 1500 is truck of the year for 2025. Congrats to them. Ram Trucks also back on the track returning to the NASCAR Craftman Truck Series for the 2026 season, which obviously we talk about all the time. Now, I don't want to talk about racing too much because the boys might take it in a different way because they watch Brad Pitt race this weekend and all of a sudden we might have some new g1 fans around the thunderdome which i certainly did not expect but let's get to the top five headlines of week 15 of the nfl season listen we're in prime football season we're in meaningful football season we're in the time of year where football teams are playing their absolute best so your team's gonna lose a game potentially your team it's not over until it's over if you're still in it it's okay if you lose so if you're the patriots and you lose to the Buffalo Bills after having a 21-point lead.

1:09It's okay. That's going to happen. A lot of good football teams. What you can't have happen is you can't be deemed from the playoffs and gone. Listen, new teams have been added to the playoffs. Gone list. Now, obviously, Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Commanders, Giants, Falcons, Saints, and Cardinals have already said, what are we playing for? Absolutely nothing. Maybe the future. Add in the Bengals. And I'll tell you what with this Bengals team. Oh, man. They get their ass beat by the Baltimore Ravens, still lurking in the AFC, the Baltimore Ravens. But from what Joe Burrow said last week, where Joe Burrow was saying, like, what's the purpose of doing this?

1:46Period. This kind of sucks, man. I'm not having any fun. This kind of stinks. I don't know. I'm not a football player anymore. Then you stink to yourself. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. We need you to be enjoying this. We need you to be loving this. Also, you're the quarterback of an NFL franchise, Cincinnati Bengals, who have bet good on you. Can't have you wondering in the middle of the season whether or not this is what you're supposed to be doing. Then he had the opportunity to get on the field in the AFC North battle against Baltimore Ravens, another team that's kind of been in the year, and make up for it, maybe start having some fun.

2:17Nah. He stunk. Zero fun. They stunk. They get absolutely obliterated by the Baltimore Ravens. Kyle Van Noy makes a heady decision to get the ball out of his old-ass hands, and they take a pick six all the way back. But the Ravens absolutely thump the Bengals. And going into the game, we wondered if Joe Burrow liked football. Now we know. There's no way he can enjoy anything about this. So, D, but my question for you about this Bengals team is like, hey, whenever you sign Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to number one wide receiver contracts and you pay Joe Burrow and it doesn't seem as if you're investing in the defense at all and your offensive line moves have never really worked, will you ever win with this particular recipe?

2:57Everybody that knew ball going into the season said probably not. Like in the history of ball, this is not a way to win. But if you don't win, life is not fun. Is Joey B at the situation now where because they suck and because there's no Super Bowl dreams and aspirations, he's not enjoying what he's doing? Or do you think maybe Joe Burrow's a human and there's some stuff going on in his life, plus the fact that they're ass, that maybe it's combining right now for not a great time of his life and we shouldn't worry about what the future holds for Joe Burrow? This is just a chapter or an era that we'll move on.

3:28I'm not worried about Joe Burrow yet. I'm not worried about his future. You mentioned it. They are humans. They are dealing with a bunch of things. But when you are a franchise quarterback, you know, people don't necessarily care about that unless it's, you know, something huge, a huge tragedy everybody knows about. If you're a franchise guy, you know, you're getting paid a ton of money. You talked about the receivers getting paid. Joe Burrow was a big part of the receivers getting paid as well. Now people in charge of putting the team together, you still have to put a team out there that can get out there and compete.

3:55So to be on this list, to be eliminated before week 15 is even over, that's never where you want to be with one of the best young quarterbacks in the National Football League. But I'm not worried about the future of him. I don't think we knew Butter was going to be in the building. I think that had a huge effect on the game. Obviously, Lamar showed up in the AFC North battle. But I hate to see Joe Burrow at this point in the season potting. Yeah, and I don't want to get it. It does seem like he's potting a little bit. He's potting. It does seem like he's potting. But we would like to let him know we're big fans, Joey.

4:23We love you in the football world. We appreciate everything you've done. But it feels like with the way that team is constructed, We didn't know if you were ever going to be able to win a Super Bowl or not, so we hope that's not necessarily what is keeping your happiness alive. We hope it's the process. We hope it's you becoming the greatest, which you certainly can. And maybe, I don't want to throw it out there, but we've seen some people in the past have been going through some things, go down to a rainforest in Central South America and come back with a whole new mindset and win an MVP and do it again and win another MVP.

4:51So whatever it is, Joey, we hope you find it again. The Cincinnati Bengals are officially gone from the playoffs. as are the Vikings after a huge win. I mean, J.J. McCarthy goes for 250 yards. He's grading in the end zone in prime time, playing his best ball, still missing by a mile on some. Sure. But even admitting that he needs to get a lot better in the offseason. So hopefully the future is brighter for this Minnesota Vikings team. A lot of important games left for him. Yeah. For him, because these are valuable, very valuable reps for J.J. McCarthy. Yeah, and what I was, yes, I think very valuable reps down the stretch here for this Minnesota Vikings team.

5:23But what we're saying is there's no meaningful games, actually, because they are gone from the playoffs. On that note, the Dallas Cowboys, who lose in primetime 2-9, they are damn near gone from the playoffs. What is everything that needs to happen for the Cowboys? Yeah, so they have about a 1 % chance to still make the playoffs. They're not dead yet. They just need the Eagles to lose all of their games, and they need to win all of their – the Cowboys need to win all of their games. So we'll see. Hey, Stranger Things have happened. Yeah, Stranger Things, not a bad show from what I've been told and never watched it.

5:53Stranger Things certainly do happen in the NFL. But the Dallas Cowboys damn near gone from the playoffs. And what the fuck is a walkie-talkie doing in the ownership? Now, they're saying it's for direct communication instead of sideline, for medical. So does every owner have a walkie-talkie that's not trackable or anything like that in communication? Is that going directly to that guy with the cowboy hat? Is that a walkie-talkie strictly to the big cowboy hat medical guy? Nonetheless, we know the Jones family took some big swings this year. We know that they got rid of a superstar, Bonafide, who is no longer finishing the season with the Green Bay Packers because of a believed-to-be torn ACL, which we are all hoping not to be a torn ACL in Micah, make a couple trades, do their thing, lose the nine in primetime, and now they're damn near gone.

6:39And then also the team that is eliminated from playoffs, which is very abnormal at this stage of the season. The Kansas City Chiefs are officially gone. Gone. From the playoffs. Yeah, they are. Which leads to the number four headline, a decade of dominance. A dynasty delayed or deleted? Ooh. Will this dynasty have to have a new chapter? Will this dynasty be able to continue for another 10 years, maybe another 15 years? Will Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes be able to carry it from one chapter to the next, a la the New England Patriots? Remember the story of the New England Patriots. There was a 10-year gap between Super Bowl wins.

7:19Now, there was two Super Bowl losses in between those 10 years, both to Eli Manning and the New York Giants. Eli Manning probably getting into the Hall of Fame for those two in 2007 and 2011. But 2004 to 2014 is a 10-year gap where the Patriots didn't win a Super Bowl. They're still considered a dynasty. Will that be what happens to the Kansas City Chiefs? Is that what we're staring down? Or, or, Chris Jones a little older. Yeah. Travis Kelsey, obviously. Maybe at the end of his entire thing. Andy Reid, it's talked about every single year. Is he going to keep going? Patrick Mahomes, is he going to be able to continue to just put the team on his back?

7:57Or are they going to be able to reload and kind of re-navigate what the future looks like for a potential dynasty? Or are they deleted? And are they done forever? Oh, no. That's the question we have to ask because they didn't make the playoffs for the first time in 11 years. You're talking about record-breaking stuff. Throughout the history of the NFL, teams have made it to the playoffs a consecutive amount of times. Patriots obviously won forever. The Chiefs, number two team in the longest running consecutive playoff run. And then we see one pick from Derwin James right in front of Travis Kelsey, and all of a sudden it's over completely, officially.

8:30And the Internet was waiting for their demise. The Internet was celebrating in all of our faces about the Chiefs being dead. But we've seen this before with another dynasty. Now, granted, the Patriots, once again, they continued to go. They continued to do their thing. Chiefs missing the playoffs. Are they dead? Is it done? Or is it just simply delayed con? Yeah, definitely not done. Maybe delayed. There's a chance you could argue, you know, maybe the Mahomes-Reed dynasty together is done. You know, that's the one thing that is the glaring difference between the two. Andy Reid is basically how old Bill Belichick was at the end.

9:03You know, right now. 67. Yeah, they probably have 10 more years. As long as Mahomes is there, their dynasty will never be done. But it's definitely going to change a little bit. and I would assume that maybe they saw the writing on the wall. You know, not many teams release a 10-part docuseries before a season, you know, to commemorate the three Super Bowls. They went two straight, the three. They've already won as well, but definitely sad. Anytime it goes out with a player on their shield, you know, Mahomes getting carried out, the vibe changes, and it is a bummer to see. You never want to see anything end like that.

9:38Yeah, and if you think about the beginning of this entire run that the Chiefs had back in 2014, Life was a lot different then. You remember the Ice Bucket Challenge got launched then? Oh, yeah. Remember Flappy Bird? Oh, yeah. Great game. Flappy Bird was in too many people's phones, taking up too much time on people's lives. The person that created it was like, we got to get rid of this game. Yeah. Deleted the game. People who had phones that accidentally still had Flappy Bird on it for some reason because they didn't update the software were being sold online for like hundreds of thousands of dollars because they were an ancient artifact, basically.

10:09That was in 2014. Graduated high school then. High school graduate from Boston Conner's second time getting that done. Happy was the song. Shake it off from Taylor Swift. You think she was even thinking about Travis Kelsey whenever she was singing? Shake it off. I mean, 2014, a long time ago. A lot has changed in the world, and now we're sitting at a time wondering if this Chiefs team is going to be able to continue to go in the future. Yeah, for the future, when you look at it, I saw a tweet yesterday about, you know, the Chiefs have a lot of work they need to do to this roster, and they are 31st in the league in cap space next year.

10:41They are$35 million over the cap for next year currently. So with all that needs to potentially be fixed with the Mahomes injury that happened yesterday and then the cap situation, it might be tough for a couple. I mean, you still have Patrick Mahomes. On that note about the Patrick Mahomes injury, we're at that time of the year, and we have been here for a while, where an injury to the wrong position can derail everything going forward. Ladies and gentlemen, it is my not honor, the opposite dishonor. Number three headline coming out of week 15 NFL Sunday slate is injuries or dookie. Okay. There's no other way to describe it.

11:21When you talk about dookie, you're talking about absolute shite. You're talking about nothing good. You're talking about negativity at the highest degree. You're talking about dookie, man. Runny, stinky, absolute crappy, dookie is what these injuries are. And if you were following along on Red Zone or all the different games, these injuries all took place within about a two-minute period. Micah goes down, Patrick goes down, and then Devontae has sniper to his hamstring. You're talking about three megastars who have had record-breaking years in record-breaking season and record-breaking careers for these particular teams, all going down in a matter of two, three minutes.

11:57Micah Parsons, that was nasty. A little hyperextension situation whenever he was just heating up and becoming a closer. Ty, your negativity about this particular injury has scared me a little bit, but Mike has become this damn important to this defense so damn quickly. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you know, yeah, the Packers are still a good team, but, like, he is the difference maker. He has eight and a half sacks in the fourth quarter. Like, there's a reason they were calling, you know, playing Ener Sandman and calling him Mariano Rivera because the Packers haven't really been blowing anybody out this year.

12:27Like the offense has been doing enough and then boom, in comes Micah to close out the game. And it's not just him. I mean, it's no question. If you watch the games, he makes everybody better. And, you know, is it one of those things where am I all doom and gloom? Do I think that it's just completely done with now? No, I don't believe that. The Packers are still 9-4-1. But it is very hard to imagine seeing him being out for the year. Like now, do I think they can make a deep run in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl? Like, no, I don't necessarily believe that. That is still on the table. They could still do it.

13:01But Micah Parsons is the best player on their team and one of the best players in the NFL. And for it to happen at this point in the season when they're just starting to get healthy, like, it's a backbreaker. Green Bay Packers, obviously a team we thought could win a Super Bowl. Right now, odds on favorite to win a Super Bowl, Los Angeles Rams. They lose their touchdown machine, their touchdown factory, their Devontae Adams sniper while running a go-route middle of the game. obviously didn't look good anytime somebody pulls up with a hammy. Obviously not good when you're 30-some years old. What are your thoughts here, D-Butch, on them losing Devontae?

13:35Still have Puka, who's obviously insane. Puka is insane. Still have Kyron Williams. Still have Blake Corum. Still have multiple tight ends, even guys that I've never heard of making plays for. But losing Devontae, this added weapon, not only down in goal line, but in third down and in red zone, is this going to be a big enough hit to derail the Los Angeles Rams? or what should we expect? I don't think it'll derail them. I think they'll still finish fairly strong. The thing about them is they've kind of changed throughout the system and morphed this offensive to using a lot more tight ends, so a lot of 13 personnel, so that's only one wide receiver on the field.

14:10So now Puka can obviously be that one wide receiver, even though Devontae was that one wide receiver and 13 personnel for the majority of the season. But when you have another superstar like Puka who would still demand that coverage, still get the production, I think they will still be okay, especially with the run game and the defense. and hopefully with this soft tissue injury he can be back full goal by the playoffs. So this isn't as huge of a blow as these other injuries on this graphic. We'll stop by with Schefter here about 1240 to kind of see everything he's hearing. Devontae a little older now though.

14:42Yep. Any muscle injury obviously in theory the older you are. But he's going to hop in that immortal chamber? Yeah. Is that what's happening out there? Right now. Probably slept in there. In his game, you know, it's not like he's, you know, Christian Watson or like a burner who – He got hurt too, by the way. You know, Jameson? Yeah, Williams. A lot of injuries over there. So his game is finesse and making big-time catches, reading coverages, being that matchup in the low-grade area. So I think when he is back in there for a goal, he'll still be the Devontae that we know. And then obviously Patrick Mahomes is the injury that we chatted about to even start this entire injury is our Dookie.

15:17I mean, this is face of the NFL. This is the man leading, you know, a dynasty right now. in front of our eyes and our face. Before he was like 27 years old, he had already built up a GOAT-type legacy, a GOAT-type resume, multiple-time Super Bowl champion, always remained a human. You know, everybody started hating him, obviously, because he's Patrick Mahomes, he's on top of the world, still would have beers with the boys, still kind of do his thing, was trying to live his life while being under the microscope of being the guy who's leading the biggest league on earth. He put out a tweet, obviously, that was like, hey, I'll be back stronger than ever, but whenever you see these types of stats, You understand that we're watching greatness happen.

15:55And he said he'll be back stronger than ever. Don't know why this had to happen. And not going to lie, it hurts. But all we can do now is trust in God and attack every single day over and over again. Thank you, Chiefs Kingdom, for always supporting me. And for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers, I'll be back stronger than ever. And we love that type of work ethic. We love that type of mindset. That is why he is who he is. But this sucks for the league, D.B. This sucks for the league that we lose Patrick Mahomes. Whether you love him or you hate him, when he's on TV, he's must watch.

16:24Yeah, you want 15 playing. You want him in the playoffs. You want to see him play. I mean, it's super unfortunate, not only for this season, but we don't know how next season looks now for him or the Kansas City Chiefs. But unbelievable hit to the National Football League. It's crazy. He still has it and won't take a snap, you know, being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in his career. And that list you just put up with him having five more wins at this point in his career. Yeah. That's ridiculous. If he's done, let's say obviously he's not done, this Chiefs, this dynasty, if this Chiefs dynasty is over like we talked about a little bit ago, that'll still go down.

16:59It's probably a Mount Rushmore dynasty when it comes to the NFL. I believe he's got two kids under the age of four or two right now. I mean. But he'll be back. He's got nine months until September. So that's right on time, right? He'll be back. I agree, but let's just think about the human. Like, hey, Mahomes, good luck out there, man. Yeah. You got a guy. Yeah. Not that, you know, he's MVP. He's a starting quarterback in the NFL. Obviously, a lot of time is allotted to that. But now he's not going to be able to move. I mean, there's a lot of stress. Just like whenever we're talking about Joey Burrow, it's not just like, hey, in the facility, it's like, hey, we got humans here.

17:34Not just a video game. So whenever you talk about everything else happening with Patrick Mahomes, we're only pulling for him for the good of the league. Yeah, and I think, you know, like he's, I mean, he's obviously been banged up before. And I don't know about college, high school, all that kind of stuff. But, like, this is the first time he's had an injury of this magnitude. You know, same with, like, Micah. Like, those guys were all of a sudden, for the most part, you stay healthy throughout your entire career, and then you get something like this where it's like, hey, you're going to be down for nine months.

17:57Like, that learning how to deal with something like that, when you've never had to deal with it before, like, you can understand how it's quite the blow. Hey, we'll miss you, Mahomes. By far the longest break he's had. I know it's rehab and it sucks, the injuries, but, like, every season he's gone at least to the NFC Championship or the Super Bowl. So, like, that's a much shorter offseason. So now you've got to – offseason starts now. And, you know, that's going to be the longest by far that he's ever had. A LeBron run. Yeah. Yeah, I remember LeBron was making it to, like, the Eastern Conference Finals every year for, like, ten straight years.

18:29And then somehow shortest offseason and doing it again going forward. Patrick Mahomes had to do that. And this year he was running more than ever. Yeah, a lot more. Running more than ever, hitting people more than ever. And that rarely happens as a GOAT's career goes forward. You know, normally as the GOAT goes forward, the contact gets less. This year he was running more, hitting more, getting hit more, and it's kind of crazy how it's all gone. But to your point about the rest, I mean, recovery is not a rest. It sucks. What he's about to get through sucks. All these injuries, every injury you hear about, all you hear is a timetable, like, hey, nine months he'll be back.

19:04Hey, this guy should be back by the playoffs. From that point of injury to when they come back sucks. That old thing sucks. Hurts, the amount of time that it takes, the monotony of just having to do the little tiny things every single day very rarely gets talked about. We try to point it out. Patrick Mahomes' life is about to suck to get back being healthy, as is obviously Micah, as is every other injury that we see take place. So all we can say is Godspeed. Yeah, and we talked about the cap there for a second. He actually might get a pretty sweet extension, which is going to maybe kind of motivate him even more in the middle of this offseason that he can continue to work.

19:41Yeah, maybe he gets that immortal. Maybe there's a couple of those in his backyard. Creates a lot of cap space, maybe gets a receiver, maybe one back from Miami. I don't know. Just things that could happen. See, Tyreek, you okay? I was just thinking about him. I'm not getting – I don't want to get too negative about it, but like I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. It's like I don't want to say it. Joey B is saying he's not having fun. It's like the way you guys built the team, we all thought you guys weren't going to be able to win, right? Like Tyreek Hill, when you took the bag to go to Miami, the thought was you're not going to win.

20:23No. That was not the thought. That was kind of the thought. No. Hey, you're leaving the dynasty to go get paid down there. You're probably not going to win as much. And then there's like, well, I want to win. It's like, well, we kind of all knew that this is kind of what the case was. it's just like Max Crosby. Like, Max knows they're not going to win, right? Like, that is kind of the thing. He just continues to show up, which we massive respect. Miles Garrett, you know, if he next year says, like, I'm tired of not winning, it's like, well, we told you. You knew. You even wrote it. Yeah, you wrote it.

20:56You even wrote it. Like, you're not going to win. So, it was like, there are certain situations where it's like, you kind of, I don't want to say sacrifice, but you did kind of acknowledge that this was not going to be kind of with each other. and then it kind of all happens. But once again, I want everybody to be happy. I want everybody to have cake and eat it too. Speaking of, let's go to the number two headline out of Week 15. The legend of Old Man Rivers. Hey, Phil. Thank you, man. Proud of you, Phil. I am proud of you, Phil. I'm very proud of you, Phil. It's not just us. Obviously, the boys in which he coaches down there in Alabama, the St.

21:32Michael's super-duper football team that has made back-to-back playoffs. Them watching Uncle Phil, Coach Old Man Rivers, score his first touchdown in five years in an NFL game as he finds Josh Dines over the middle. They have an incredible lead. Wait a second, are the Indianapolis Colts and Phil Rivers all the way back? This guy Phil Dines got back up. He looked agile, maybe the most agile grandpa in all of football. And after the game, whenever he gave a quote that I think everybody needs to hear, I think the babyface turn for Phil Rivers was in full effect. A lot of people burying the Colts for signing Phil Rivers.

22:08Now, once again, I would like to reiterate the fact I am a Cam Newton fan. Always have been. It's because I watched him play live. I think anybody that watched Cam Newton play or had to play against Cam Newton. Yep, my teammate too. Play with him. Exactly. Says Cam Newton's allowed to say whatever he wants about football. Cam Newton is football. He can do whatever he wants. The whole thing about is Cam Newton a better quarterback than Phil Rivers is a wild conversation to have because I don't know if Cam Newton just knows the entire Shane Steichen offense, which week 15 in the middle of a playoff run, I don't know if it's the right time to put somebody in that doesn't know the offense.

22:42Now, was Riley Leonard, who's been in the building all year, who's very athletic, was he a better option than Phil Rivers? I think that argument is certainly viable. But somebody that doesn't know the offense coming in in the middle of what the Colts are thinking and hoping is a playoff run doesn't seem sound to me. It sounds like you live in a video game world as opposed to real-life world where you don't just drop into a building and then download the offense and then you're on the same page as everybody so that you can operate a football team efficiently. Matt Ryan and the Colts had problems for his entire time because he couldn't learn the offense or the verbiage and then the offensive line couldn't and it was an absolute catastrophe.