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24:29Pat McAfee:Ty? Yeah, Pete, how big of a concern is it that this is going to spill into the major conferences? Because like you said, it's mostly very small mid-majors. Is the thought that NIL and the fact that a lot of these guys in the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, are making millions of dollars a year right now, that they're maybe not as susceptible to be caught in something like this? Or where does the NCAA stand on that as of right now? so the biggest name school involved in this tie is DePaul in in the in the Big East there are a couple uh DePaul bets listed in the in the 70 page indictment today and it it looks like again these most of now there were four current players involved in this who played college basketball in the last week Jeff Borzello reported that today uh including a guy who you know got some buckets for Kennesaw State last night.

25:19But for the most part, this is past tense. It's been rooted out. There's been like a drip, drip, drip. There was a player who transferred a few times, ended up at Wisconsin this year, and all of a sudden, he's not going to play for Wisconsin anymore because of interviews, NCAA, FBI, et cetera. So I do think that the damage that's listed here today is the extent of this scandal. I don't think we're going to see this flash up in some more familiar brands. And look, they preyed on the vulnerable. They preyed on the guys making$30 ,000 a year, not the guys making$300 ,000 a year. And it's pretty evident if you read through the indictment how they did this.

25:59They basically, they would show, there's one portion where they sent pictures of$100 ,000 in cash. And they were trying to encourage a guy, hey, tell your teammates, this is for them if they're gonna lose by more than eight in the first half this weekend.

26:14Pat McAfee:i hate it and we're part you know of what a lot of people say is the problem because we talk about sports gambling and i can't stress this enough people talking about sports gambling has been happening since the beginning of sports i assume and just in smaller circles and it's much bigger now and certainly much more accessible you'd assume that amount of bets on a particular low level game on a tuesday night would get flagged on uh handheld gambling there's a chance a lot of this is still happening at brick and mortar casinos which i would assume you would know more about where they just they also then have a fleet of runners that go and put these bets in that either they know or don't know and the people that are running the bets either know or don't know who the money's even coming from that's potentially second generation get that money in there so the amount of interesting kind of things that can happen in this modern space of sports gambling being legalized state-wise not federally is certainly you know kind of rearing some ripple effects into the amount of people potentially getting caught now i would like to argue getting caught and getting caught up in a situation.

27:14Pat McAfee:I would like to argue though that the digital gambling will help root this out more because it's basically impossible not to track everything that happens on there. So it's going to be in our world now because states are receiving tax from that a lot of money being generated for these states. Very rarely does anybody in the history of government, from my understanding, I don't know it as well as everybody else, do they turn off a pipeline of cash into a state i don't think that's ever happened i don't know governments well enough but i don't think that happens so we need to understand that sports gambling is going to continue to happen and it's probably only going to continue to grow because there's more states still that haven't been added so like i'm happy that we're able to catch these folks but i am scared if this you know like i can't our sports cannot just be completely ruined because of it as well it's a weird kind of dynamic that's kind of happening in front of us all Make sports more interesting for people.

28:06Pat McAfee:You know, people are able to kind of feel a little bit more like they have a horse in a race. Now, obviously, there's the downsides of it all. People can get addicted. Now, granted, the digital ones cut you off. It's like there's just so many things. We're at a really, like, interesting breaking point of sports gambling and sports. This transition phase, probably 10 years or so, on the other side of it, what will it look like for us now? I don't know. It's wild. Yeah. This is like you heard about the Black Sox. Right. Mm-hmm. Trulest show. And, like, Pete Rose, obviously, his name, it was only, like, a couple stories that we had really ever heard about.

28:39Pat McAfee:Now, is that because it was tough to track? You know, Pete Rose got caught because he had a notebook. Mm-hmm. You know, and there was other actual books that were happening, you know, and being written. So if those were to be lit on fire, there'd be literally no evidence. So, like, I don't know. Did it happen as much back then as it's happening now? It just feels like I'm learning of new things happening, and I don't like any of it. No. And it's all, like, seemingly easy to execute, sounds like. Just got to hope they get caught. And then the punishments have to be severe. Very heavy. Very heavy.

29:07Well, and that's what's tough, too, is like Pete said, this investigation has been going on, and all these guys who were indicted, who were in the investigation, several of them played college basketball this week. So the severity of the punishment really hasn't been there.

29:22Pat McAfee:So it started in September 2022 from the article here, and it was initially focused on a Chinese basketball association rigging of games. Okay, classic, how can we take advantage of something? What is not covered much? The Chinese Basketball Association. Maybe we can get in there. And then the group later targeted college basketball games offering bribes to college players ranging from 10 ,000 to 30 ,000 compromised games for betting purposes, according to the indictment. Well, and those guys from those small schools who aren't going to the NBA, you'd assume they're probably going to the CBA. They're going over to Europe and playing overseas where they could probably kind of work around some of those things.

30:00Pat McAfee:Maybe they have friends playing over there. Yeah, people, exactly. Like a network. That's when the network thing kind of starts. And they're not making. All right, well, let's not continue to chat about this because college sports are awesome, too. College sports are incredible. There's a lot of very good that we have to continue to chit-chat about, but we also have to make sure that this can't happen, okay, anymore. Got to stop. And gambling on games will be available for you when you're done playing sports. But while you're doing the sports, you can't be doing it. These are two different things.

30:27Pat McAfee:You just can't be doing it. and hopefully the punishments will certainly set a tone that that has to stop. Let's get to college football now. Speaking of punishments, who do those come from? The big college game coming up, but there's other stuff happening around college. Yeah, that's a great question. Pete, the American Football Coaches Association met this prior weekend, and the college coaches unanimously voted for the red shirt to switch from four games, you can play in four games, to nine games. And now it has to go to a committee, I believe, to be passed. What is the difference between the nine-game redshirt rule versus a lot of people have heard recently about the five-for-five, basically where once you start playing college football, you have five years to play.

31:05There's no redshirts or anything like that. Even if you're healthy for all five years, you can play all five years. So what's the difference between the nine-game redshirt and maybe that? And then who is the committee that passes this and actually enforces this? Because that's the biggest question with college football right now is who is in charge of all this? Great question, Stone. So to me, this is a little ways to go before it becomes a reality. Obviously, the coaches are going to pass rules that favor the coaches, right? Like, and this would obviously, this would obviously be good for them because they can use players longer, etc.

31:40But it feels to me like this is an either or, right? If we don't get the five for five, this is the hedge on it. as for the actual committee who's going to make this decision, I could, the confluence of convoluted NCAA committees, I will not bore you guys with. But yeah, it is going to be, you know, your general NCAA committee that's filled with athletic directors, probably some presidents, et cetera. And I just feel like holistically, college sports has to make a decision on eligibility. And it has to make one soon just because, you know, you see all these seventh year, sixth year, all this stuff like there.

32:22There just needs to be a little bit more certainty around that. And all the lawsuits. Now, the NCAA will tell you that it's been harder for them to enforce some of the rules because places like Tennessee is getting an injunction for Diego. There's all these things working against them on the micro level where it's been hard to set macro standards. and uh in in this this that passed in uh you know at the coaches uh convention this week is is another is another example of that so um i i feel like we'll get some clarity on five for five this offseason at some point and if not i i would think that the the the red shirt switch would would come into play but it is you do have to chuckle like what's the difference between nine games and 12 games you know like that's you know that it is uh yeah and who's that was forcing who's going to

33:09Pat McAfee:enforce it if somebody says i don't want to do it well then there's another injunction and then there's uh well how long does that go around who handles that the courts the local state courts because that's what's happening now with winnidad right down there and old miss is mississippi court now after watching winnidad we think at the next level he he might he might do well he might he might he might do well at the nfl not saying that he ever thought he wouldn't but just like watching him live in person it's like i don't think this is going to be the finality of him earning income by playing football i think he's going to make money playing football for a long time that's why the pavia stuff interesting like how many years was he going to be allowed to play it's always like the guys that you don't know what's going to happen in the nfl or you think maybe not good in the nfl but who enforces any of it the local state laws courts do that's what's happening with winidad right yes so uh trinidad chandlis's lawyer tom mars and a local attorney who actually founded Ole Miss's collective are expected to file either tomorrow or early next week for an injunction, you know, to help secure his eligibility for 2026.

34:12Chambliss is a fascinating draft case, Pat, if you look at it. I made a few calls last week on, you know, what guys thought of him. And he's still like a third, fourth round type pick. Now, look, quarterbacks value and need, those things often, you know, aren't in line, right? There's probably seven teams that really need quarterbacks right now and would draft him this year. And it's hard to find seven viable quarterbacks who could be NFL starters coming up in this draft class, especially with Dante Moore staying. Once you get past Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson, there's probably a pretty good gap on where you'd go.

34:52So it's an interesting crossroads for Chambliss because he would certainly make more money in college next year than he would in the NFL next year. And if he has another season like he had, you would think he'd obviously grow as a passer. You would think maybe he's in good position for the 27 draft, but the 27 draft could be historically loaded with quarterbacks. You have Arch, you have Dante Moore, and there's a huge flurry of others. it's expected to be you know a once a decade type depth quarterback class as everything comes together so it'd be interesting for Chambliss he's an easy guy to root for right like the story is unbelievable you know the performance against Georgia was probably the defining individual performance in college football this year you could argue you know he's been he's been a remarkable player you know being around him a little bit in Phoenix last week one of the Ole Miss staff members described him as bubbly like he just said there's an effervescence around him he's a remarkable kid and remarkable, remarkable story.

35:53Be great for college football if he's there. And ultimately that's going to be up to an NCAA appeal or the, the courts in Mississippi, which Tom Mars, Mars memorably said would be a more level playing field for Ole Miss or the rebels. Yeah. Much more level playing field.

36:09Pat McAfee:The eyes are in the beholder, certainly in that whole thing. Yeah. Trinidad is special. He looks sweet. He's thrown to a spot. He's doing all this stuff. Les Snead of the Rams, GM, actually says he likes the story of the guys coming from smaller schools and transferring up. Feels like they're hungry. Feels like they're, you know, more humble. It's like, I think, you know, third, fourth round, sure. But let's see what happens with the draft class. And then you talked about his game against Georgia being a transformative one of the season. I agree. Fernando Mendoza has more touchdowns than interceptions in the college football playoff right now.

36:41Pat McAfee:Incompletions. I'm sorry, incompletions. He has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entirety of the college football playoffs thus far. So that's six-point throws versus throws to the other team. He has two incompletions, I think, the last couple games each. It's been a methodical ass-beating from Fernando Mendoza. Will they be able to do it against Miami? We find out. Big college game on Monday. We'll see you down there. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Pete D 'Ambo. Thank you, Pete. Good journalism there. The best. Hardball to the bottom of it. Didn't hear the first time because we had a bad connection, poor connection out there on the street.

37:16Pat McAfee:We appreciate you after joining us even whenever it's all happening like that. But he hit that thing again. They had a plan and a deal basically in place whenever he left the building. Had to get some other things figured out. Some other I's dotted. Some other T's crossed. Happy they got that done. I'm watching Pete on ESPN on our show right there. He looks so cool when he does. He does. He knows how to wear a toque. He does. He certainly does, doesn't he? A lot of magical things happening in the football world. Commanders debuted what their new stadium is going to look like. and Grazie. Looks like a monument.

37:49Pat McAfee:Yes, it does. It looks like it fits in perfectly for the surrounding area. It is obviously modern technology, modern engineering. It has a beautiful look to it. And I'm happy it doesn't look the exact same as all of them. Now, they all start to look alike. Now, granted, the shape of a football field is certainly going to shape the stadium itself. You know, like the Aussie Rules football down there, they have a big round. and the cricket grounds is a big round because that's what the games call for. Football stadium going to be a football field shape. A lot of people say these things all look the same.

38:24Pat McAfee:It's like, I think they're all going to have a similar shape. I think they all are going to have a football field-like shape, even though somebody could come in and just put a big sphere around that thing and have it be completely circle. So I love the way this looks. I assume the lighting is going to be outrageous that they're going to have on these pillars. The primetime game is going to be crazy. And it's right there on the water. So we wonder about the water, especially down there in D.C. We did a little research. What is that water that's right next to that stadium? And is that going to be a part of – are they going to be sailgating there?

38:57Pat McAfee:Are we going to have boats on the water outside of the Commander's Monument Stadium out there? These are all really, really good questions. And obviously this is being built at the site of the old RFK Stadium. and that is the Anacostia River, Pat. It's about nine miles long, named after the Anacostan Native Americans of that region back in the time. So it's basically a tribute river to them. Tell you what. Which is good. That's good for a brand. That's good for what's going on. Maybe change the name. Maybe that's a tributary. It's quote-unquote DC's Forgotten River. You asked Tony, why is that the case?

39:35Well, they had a lot of sewage problems. So when it rained heavily and stuff like that, the sewage runoff into this river caused problems for years and years and years. There was lawsuits in 2004 and 2011.

39:46Pat McAfee:Paul and the Anacostia was getting abused by poop. Yeah, not a lot of people going in there. And the people living on the Anacostia were like, this river is full of poop. That's what this river is. It's a poopy river. But I have good news. due to the Clean Rivers project, which is supposed to be completed in 2030, which is around probably when the stadium is supposed to be completed as well. We're going to have a brand new, beautiful smelling Anacostia River. 2030? 2030. This is a river that John Smith, you know, everyone, Captain John Smith, everyone, anyone. Captain John Smith, Pocahontas, sure.

40:24Yeah, and he helped found Jamestown. This is a river that he sailed up. And this is a river that played an integral part in the Civil War. This is a river that is a forgotten river in D.C. Forgotten no more! Bingo. And all this where we turn it to its full glory.

40:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I'm happy for the Anacostia. Yeah. Kind of getting back at it. Was the poop river associated with the poop pipes of the old stadium? Had to have been. A lot of poop kind of running around what's going on in the commander's past. Yes. Although they did just have a very poopy season as well. Well, that's because they had some poopy injuries. Yeah. But I did not know that the commanders were going to be surrounded by poop all the time. They've gotten the poop completely out. They're trying to fix that, yeah. Yeah, Clean Rivers Project said, the commanders of old, the poopy, very, very poopy commanders are of the past.

41:12Pat McAfee:We're going to clean this river. Poop no more. No more. We're going to make sure these pipes aren't bursting on people's heads that are carrying the poop through the Anacostia. Because that was happening at the last state. It was. People just walking around at state. I'm watching this team that used to have a different name. it used to be good and the ownership seemingly hates us. Everybody hates everything. And boom! Pipe burst as they're carrying their nachos. What's coming out? Boom! Boom! Nachos! Eat it! That's not beans! That's not beans! That's what was happening in the stadium. Yeah. And now you're telling me that river's going to be a clean river?

41:47Pat McAfee:Yeah. And their poop pipes are no longer going to burst? They got Jaden Daniels. Dan Quinn moves on completely from his defense coordinator and his offense coordinator. He says, we need something new. We just need. We can't do what we just did. That What we just did was very, very poopy. Yeah. It's moved on. Clean Rivers Project, their stadium, they Clean Rivers Project, their team, and they Clean Rivers Project, the Anacostia River that they're putting their stadium on. I'll tell you what, brighter days ahead, less poopier days ahead. Yeah, I think the end goal is to have the Anacostia maybe rival the Potomac.

42:28And then in return, the commander. Good luck.

42:30Pat McAfee:Potomac, very big. Yeah, very big. Very, very. But we can dream, can't we? Anacostia can. I think it's going to be tough whenever they show it on a map. But it could be a mighty nine miles. Very mighty. But there's another river that they call mighty, I think. That one is the big one. Yeah, it is mighty. You think there's any concern that if the commanders aren't great after the river's been cleaned up, people start saying, you know what, no, I'm going to go take a shit in the Anacostia. The last time we were good, the last time we went to an NFC championship game, the Anacostia was loaded with poop, and now it's clean.

43:02So after the game, everybody, actually halftime, everybody go outside, don't go to the bathrooms, take a shit in the Anacostia instead. Well, that's why they need to just do full-blown war on poop. Nobody really is pro poop, unless it's healthy, of course. but no one wants to smell like that. So when we're talking about the stadium as a whole, because looking at it, it is open for AI into toilet bowl, just the shape of it. But they could do full, hey, let's name this stadium, you know, Charmin Ultra, the Charmin Stadium. Oh, to clean up the poop. Yeah, the porta-potty stadium, you know. Some wipes poop.

43:36Exactly. They need to lean into it almost like, hey, yeah, so what? We had poop pipes. We have a poop river. But now we are the ones leading the charge against poop.

43:44Pat McAfee:But I think what they're saying is we don't have to do all that because we're not going to be synonymous with poop anymore. I think they're trying to do that angle. But I respect what you're saying. If you can't beat that poop in the river. Five and 12. Which, remember, the Olympics, they tried. Loaded. They tried. That person got sick. Yeah, it got in there, yeah. The mayor jumped in there, didn't they? Yeah, jumped into the sand. Gargling it. Look, we're telling you the river's clean. We've got to do this Olympic race. And everybody's like, I don't think so. Smelled like poop for two months.

44:12People who ran or did the whole race, decathlon or whatever, they didn't die. They got like a stomach poison sickness from the poop. Speaking of, I do have a health advisory.

44:23Pat McAfee:We think once poop gets in, it's hard to get out. It is. But we are hoping that they are able to get the poop out of the Anacostia because that stadium on that river with sail gating happening on the outside of that, with the drone shots that they have these days. Did you see the drone shot of Pittsburgh the other night? That might have been the most beautiful shot I've ever seen. Pittsburgh obviously coming out of Fort Pitt tunnel. You have the best view in all of cities, I think, is the title. Them having this as the shot coming back right down the point right there. Allegheny on one side, Monongahela on the other.

44:56Pat McAfee:They come to create the Ohio River, which obviously goes over to Ohio. It's three rivers. That's the point that you were seeing there. There is the city that resides inside of it. We have the most bridges out of any city in the world because of how much water kind of surrounds our town, which I don't want to say immediately leads to a lot of Italians because there's a lot of water, a lot of moving. things like that. These rivers have never been talked about as being ones that you go ahead and get in. There's been a lot of chatter about cleaning these rivers. Since I'm probably born and probably before I was around, when I wasn't even thought of, about cleaning these rivers.

45:27Pat McAfee:It feels like it's really hard to clean rivers. I think it is really hard to clean rivers. Now, that one's only nine miles. Hopefully they're able to clean it because that has a chance to be the best looking setup in all of all. Can I tell you part of how they're cleaning it? Fun fact. If you go to D.C., Don't eat the mussels, okay? 2018, they dumped 9 ,000 mussels into the Anacostia River because mussels, they get rid of shit like no other creature. That's where they grow because they eat it, Donner. Mussels love poop. Mushrooms love poop. The mussels have already purified 32 million gallons of water.

45:59Mushrooms do them. Mushrooms love poop as well. They grow from poop, but mussels, they can't get enough. They just suck down poop.

46:07Pat McAfee:They're the biggest Commander's fans. But if you're in D.C., don't eat the mussels. or the poop. I'm assuming they're not getting Anacostia River. I would hope not. What if they're in a tough spot? They said, hey, we need to get you down to Anacostia. Congrats to them getting a great stadium, though. Feels like everybody has said, like, hey, really good stadium. Also, congrats to tennis. We've been talking about tennis a little bit more than we could have ever imagined. Shout out to Ben Shelton, right? He's the stud with Trinity Rodman. Ben Shelton, I met him down in Atlanta. Knows the program, watches the program.

46:37Pat McAfee:Also, immediate shit talk. Immediate, which I respect and I appreciate. Very tall. Very handsome. Strapping lead. Very, yeah. He is a guy. So obviously, I want to get into tennis because I would like to support him because he seems like a cool dude. I like what he's doing and representing out here. So we like that a lot. But tennis has been doing some stuff that makes them interesting. We remember the story from last week, I believe, where some lady who's clearly never played tennis before ended up in an actual tennis tournament and just got absolutely smoked but laughed the whole time. Got a point because the other person got a fault who was an actual professional tennis player It looked just as hilarious as it sounds.

47:12Pat McAfee:This is real. This happened in the tennis world. Now, to tee up for the Australian Open, which is all the way down under, down under. Long flight, but obviously the Australian Open, a big one in the tennis world. Beautiful area. They did something I've never seen before, and this is incredible, Conman. Incredible. It was one of the greatest pieces of sporting kind of news you could probably watch. It was called the Million Dollar One-Point Slam. It was 48 total players, both men and women, both pros, amateurs, and some celebrities. One of the celebrities being Bailey Smith, our friend from the AFL, of course, as we all remember.

47:45But Jordan Smith, who ended up beating Bailey to start out this tournament, was an amateur, 29 years old, from Australia. And he beat Bailey Smith, Laura Pagosi, who's the women's world number 86 ranked tennis player. Yannick Sinner, who's the number two tennis player in the world for men's. Amanda Anisimova, who is also the world's number four for women. Pedro Martinez, not the baseball player, the tennis player. And then in the final, Joanna Garland. And he won a million dollars. It was one point the entire way. Yannick Sinner actually had a double fault. That's how he lost. It was incredible.

48:23Pat McAfee:Rock, paper, scissors to decide who serves. Because obviously serving is an advantage in tennis. The amateurs got two faults. You know, they got a fault and they got a chance to serve. So two serves, one fault. The pros did not get a fault. So center faults on him. He loses just one serve for the pros, two for the amateurs. I looked into this. I love this. How many people were in it as total? 48 total people, 16 amateurs like Jordan Smith who qualified throughout different matches in Australia. It's a brilliant idea. Yeah. It is a brilliant idea. It's awesome. One million bucks, one point. A little exciting.

48:57Pat McAfee:Tennis has been trying to do it. Yeah. Tennis has been trying to do it, honestly. And there was a time where tennis was pop culture, very relevant, obviously, because the characters that are playing tennis, and they certainly still have great people. But their sport also has the chance to be a little bit more electric. You know, like their setups are certainly what they are. You know, and I think the Brits get after it right over there. Oh, yeah. Wimbledon, our friend told us about Nigel. Nigel, they get after it in there. So it's like, I think tennis has a lot of opportunity. And we are appreciating what they're doing.

49:25Pat McAfee:And we don't think amateurs should be playing against pros all the time. but like a million dollar gimmick state fair like shit. Yeah. To drum up a little interest in the Australian open. Yeah. I like that that's happening in the tennis world. Awesome. Now I know the Australian open is going on for one, you know, let alone to what you were saying about tennis. They have the two young guys. Like they have the younger versions of the legends. It feels like Federer and Joker and people of that ilk, but with Alcaraz and sinner also participating in this stuff feels like a massive deal too. Not just as the tennis people trying to drum up conversation about it, but their biggest stars are also like, hey, yeah, we're all in on this.

50:04Pat McAfee:Okay, so tennis is electric. We like that going in as we head into less football here. We like that tennis is doing that. Golf's coming back soon, I believe. Yeah, TGL the other night. Okay, TGL the other night. It's starting to open today. The Open starting today. Brooks Koepka's back with the PGA. I mean, there is good stuff happening. We've got to remember that. And college hoops, even though there's obviously some investigations going on at different levels. They're delivering. Last night, we had four buzzer beaters. Let's go to Ole Miss beating Georgia. Number 21, 97-95. Put back. Patton Pickens.

50:38Pat McAfee:Ole Miss wins 97-95 at the buzzer in Georgia. Congratulations to them. That's great. Hey, Coach Beard. Hey, you know, it took him a while. A couple months ago, he was basically saying, what are we going to do to win? He said, well, I could sit everyone's ass and play new players. Those guys have seemingly kind of responded. Look for Ole Miss down the stretch here in a tough SEC. Oh, maybe he's built a culture down there. Maybe. Late putback by Patton Pinkett. Let's go do Kentucky in the Bayou. Taking on LSU. Buzzer beater. Long ball. Catch. Shoot. Very reminiscent of. Christian Laettner. Malachi Moreno with the incredible bucket.

51:17Pat McAfee:Catch. Turn. Great throw, by the way. Yeah. Not a loaded quarterback draft class in the NFL. something to think about here. That was precision and also threw a three ball, you know, threw a three ball which is up and over, which is what he had to do to make sure his guy was the only guy that could catch that. And then Malachi Marino, with the quickness and also awareness of when he has to get that out, splashed like he was born for the moment. Yeah, and you can see there, Kentucky's 10-6. They needed that big time. You saw Pope at the end with his hands up like holy hell, thank goodness we won this game, especially against LSU.

51:48Massive victory for the Wildcats.

51:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, and the SEC is tough. Look, LSU is 12-4. They're 0-3 in the SEC. Kentucky is 10-6. They're 1-3 in the SEC. Any SEC win is a good win, especially whenever you've got magic happening full length of the court. Can you go back to that video pointing out the very end? Yeah, they got got. They got got the score. The 1-2 at the bottom for Kentucky, the 0-3 for LSU changes to 1-3, 1-3 because they thought that game was over. Oh, did they? Here they go. Boom! Oh! No, no, no. They said not so fast, my friend. Coach Corso, hope you're great. What a wild finish. Would love to hear Dickie V on that call.

52:25Pat McAfee:Maybe. It's unbelievable. Okay, let's go down to SMU. Don 2 against Virginia Tech. 2.6 seconds left. SMU obviously in Dallas. Let's not just look for the shot. Let's look for the fire off the top of the backboard. Boopy Miller. Power. What a name. Great name. Boopy from half court. electrifying time down there at Moody Coliseum. David B. Miller Court. Shout out to the SMU Mustangs. And that type of pyro, perfect for the moment. Whoever's on the trigger, the button for the pyro, you did it. Respect. I mean, the timing in which it falls, how he goes about it, and then the power sheet, and the amount of power this flame had.

53:08Pat McAfee:pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft, They don't know how much gas they got left. This is the end of the game. We are doing the entirety. Congratulations to SMU getting a huge win. And then in women's college hoop, I don't like it. In Morgantown. What? In the Hope Coliseum. I wonder how long it's been named that. Buckets. 51-50. TCU gets a win over a very, very tough West Virginia Mountaineer team. West Virginia currently 4-1 in the Big 12. TCU as well. 16-1 versus 14-3 in Morgantown. And unbelievable shot by Marta Suarez. Yeah. I mean, Marta Suarez is ice cold, dude. That's what you just need to know.

54:00What are you going to do? You know? I mean, can we get a hand up maybe? That's what we're going to do. Good God. What do you mean we got a hand up? There's a hand in the face. Can we get pressure? Can we get a little bit of ball pressure?

54:11Pat McAfee:You think Marta Suarez is going to pull up for three if you're hurt? No, you think she's going to try to get an easier shot. That's fine. Let's go to extra time. You've got to respect that she might take that to the cup. But look at the jab step. Take it to the cup. There's 2.8 seconds left. You never know. Then the thought is, you know, yeah, I'm not. West Virginia is a good basketball team. Great basketball team. I hope. They beat. Good record. I just saw it. Iowa State last week. Great handle. Iowa State's leaking oil right now, unfortunately. You don't want to be a monster in this particular time.

54:43Pat McAfee:That's true. We're going to be a monster march. Let's keep our eyes. Let's get there. You want to make the tournament, though. Yeah, let's get there. Okay, we are definitely as Iowa State Cyclones going to make tournaments. So is West Virginia, an absolute stud group of basketball players. Let's go to the top 25 for the men. Anything we need to notice here, Foxy, that you've kind of circled in your eyes? You know, Arizona number one, Iowa State number two, UConn number three. How many people are there undefeated or something along those lines? Two undefeated teams left. Just Arizona and then arguably the biggest story of this year so far, Nebraska is undefeated.

55:14Fred Hoiberg, former head coach at Iowa State. I think at one point he was their all-time leading scorer, and then he went and coached in the NBA, was the head coach of the Bulls for a while. He went to Nebraska, and they have – we remember Kese Tomonaga a couple years ago, but they are legit, and they've already beat quite a few ranked teams, good teams in the Big Ten. Miss Tomonaga big time. Our guy Cole Pete for Arizona, he's damn near player of the year for college basketball in his inaugural year to the entire thing. He's probably going to be top of the big bang. Unbelievable. Yeah, this kid is legit.

55:47Pat McAfee:If I remember, offensive lineman dad, I think, and brother. Would be great in a place that has a really good point guard who's very good at passing to work with, a la Indianapolis, Indiana. Tyrese Halliburton certainly getting more healthy and healthy by the day. We're happy and proud of him for the work he's put in. Also, Koa, thank you for letting us be a part of your story. and also congrats on dominating out there. So College Hoops is hitting. Yeah, it really is. Like right now, you're starting to get into the teeth of conference play. So like there are good games every single night, especially as football is ending here.

56:22There's at least probably like one to two top 25 matchups that will be happening on most Tuesdays and Thursdays.

56:27Pat McAfee:All right, as we wrap up our one here, we got some interesting details from the Coach Tomlin team meeting that happened at 2 o 'clock on Tuesday. Fascinating stuff about how emotional it got in there. Both we have the Christian Kuntz podcast where he talks about it and then a report from DeFalbo, the athletic writer for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Fascinating, you know, information from both of them. And also a very, I mean, it felt like it was a very somber, emotional moment. We'll learn about that, talk about that, and everything else going on in the world. We'll see you then. Goodbye. Bye.

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58:38Pat McAfee:Football! Today's a big day because obviously we're just two days away from divisional round Saturday in the NFL, divisional round Sunday in the NFL, and then big college game Monday. The national championship will be taking place down in Miami, and we are giving away tickets all week to two people, well, I guess eight people in total, two at a time to get a chance to enjoy maybe history being wrote for the Indiana Hoosiers, no longer just a basketball school, now a football powerhouse. And then the Miami Hurricanes coming all the way back into football prominence in a way that is not only electrifying but also very physical.

59:15Pat McAfee:Two teams that have similar identities will be battling against each other. Two veteran quarterbacks who have handled the pressure in the moments incredibly well will battle against each other. and two coaches who I don't think will be scared to fight each other if they had to or anybody else will try to lead their men into immortalization. Nailed it? Yeah. That's what Big College Game Monday is. That's what we're giving away tickets for. Today, we'll be giving away two tickets to the first ten people, to somebody within the first ten people who are able to guess the combined power punch number of the toxic table who will take two shots, highest number being used for each of them, at this punching machine that is sitting in the middle of the Thunderdome.

59:59Pat McAfee:Ty will punch it two times. He'll get his highest score. Connor will punch it two times. He'll take his highest score. They will be added together for one score. It goes from zero to 1 ,000. What will that number be? You can guess it right now on X. Use the hashtag PMS SeatGeekPunchOut. You can only do three guesses in total. We will know the number before everybody else. We will not show the final score before it is figured out who will be in the top 10. And only three answers per person. Okay? Because we don't need you counting to 2 ,000. None under. Okay? Three guesses. And if you're under, you're going to be out.

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1:01:38Pat McAfee:That's what the red dot is. Yep. Chasing our life. Green dot is, hey, this is a good deal. You should feel very comfortable doing this. Now, you're going to say, well, I don't trust it. Well, you can look and do it yourself. And any company that's willing to tell you it's a bad deal, we appreciate SeatGeek's been like that since the beginning. Yeah. Now, granted, I think we got green dots whenever we bought these tickets for these giveaways. Sure. They're expensive. This is an insanely expensive Big college game And that's because there's so much story and history That could be made that evening Down there at the Hard Rock Miami win at home Indiana win Both huge We're going to be on the sideline for another field pass Potentially final field We'll see how that goes We've enjoyed it We don't like to run things in the ground though We don't like to do that But field pass is the coolest thing that we get to do We're so thankful we're going to be there Join us on ESPN2 Talks at the table here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.

1:02:30Pat McAfee:Want to have the hammer? Dad. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Con man, huge weekend of ball coming up, especially for your Patriots. Yeah, very jacked up, especially jacked up for kind of the first games on Saturday. You know, the one seeds we haven't seen play. A lot of fodder around the Seahawks and Broncos. And now we finally get to watch them play a couple of playoff games on Sunday. We don't have to get into how pumped I am for the Patriots game itself. I'm excited to see how the weather turns out. because we got some weather updates yesterday, and the New England weather has, yes, there it is, boom, has very much kind of turned to a wintry storm, a cold kind of situation.

1:03:08But Illinois and Chicago, they're saying it's going to be zero degrees. So you better buckle up. You better be ready. You better have some hand warmers. And for Caleb and Stafford, I'm hearing a lot of people talk about Stafford not being able to play in the cold as if he's some bum in his second year in the NFL. That doesn't really make much sense. I believe he played at the old Viking Stadium, not just the new one indoors. And then, of course, Caleb. You know, here we go. Can he do three quarters of absolute shite and then turn around in the fourth? It's going to be great to watch these things play out and then go into the conference championship weekend.

1:03:44Pat McAfee:Over under 48 and a half. It's going to feel like it's single digits, if not zero degrees there. You automatically think, oh, this is going to be tight football. It's going to be low football. 24, one person had 25, one team have 24. That's what it would make. That's a lot of scoring, you would think to yourself. Hembo sent some stats over. The over is 18-9 in playoff games with freezing kickoffs over the last 10 seasons. That does not make it a guarantee. Obviously, batting 100 % more on the other side than the loss column is a little bit different. But what's that? Well, freezing is 32. Yeah, but still, it's cold, they're saying.

1:04:18You've talked about it before. Hey, look, 30-32 in zero. Yeah, there's a big difference, especially when you're talking about wind gusts up to 28 mph.

1:04:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Tennessee Volunteers, I think, learned that a little bit. It's cold in Tennessee. It's cold in Tennessee. We got snow here. We get ice here. We have it all. Zero's a little bit different. But cold games in the playoffs, allegedly, if you're talking about from a Hembo statistic point, it's like don't just necessarily bet it all on the under because you're naturally going to think that it's going to be poopy football. Yeah, there's normally an overreaction from the people in the books thinking it's going to be super low scoring. There's a chance it is, though. Let's not get crazy. 28-mile-an-hour guts.

1:04:56And I would love to see what the average over-under for those games is because 48-and-a-half for those type of games is – 48-and-a-half is not a low total. Yeah. And that's not surprising because the Bears' defense, while very, very, very opportunistic, does give up some points. And obviously, they have a really good offense with Caleb. And then the Rams' offense is also very good. But they've given up some points recently as well. So I would not personally would not be shocked to see it go over. But the wind, like we've always talked about, it's not necessarily the cold always. It's that up to 28-mile-hour gust.

1:05:29Like that's some real significant wind.

1:05:31Pat McAfee:25-mile-hour gusts, NFLweather.com is saying. But still, 25, 28, 30, 40, what is real, what is not, especially in Chicago if it's that cold. Wind at that temperature is obviously a nightmare. 48-and-a-half feels like a lot. Feels like a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's used to a frozen tundra game. Lives for it. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. Hawker, the wind is the nightmare, especially for the offensive side of things. It's going to be cold. You know, there's going to be a little bit of weather.

1:06:05Pat McAfee:NFLweather.com, hilarious thing. I believe a guy named Rick just kind of started it as a hobby, just kind of offers it up to the world. You're welcome. It's kind of his contribution to society. Right, Bruce? Yeah, passion project. There are a couple ads on there. I'm zoomed in, so you can't see them right now. But, yeah, it's free for NFL fans to just know what's going on and obviously great for gambling as well. I mean, there's only a matter of time before Rick at NFLweather.com is approached by somebody because this is a great piece of information whenever you're talking about any of the games, especially in the gambling world whenever you're talking about it.

1:06:34Pat McAfee:Chicago can certainly get chilly, AJ. What are your thoughts on Matthew Stafford, who's obviously a very veteran man of the NFC North and has obviously played in tough conditions, and the LA Rams travel to that. And Caleb, you know, I know he's the Bears quarterback, but how many of these games has he played in? You know, that's like Aaron Rodgers, California guy. And obviously he played at Cal Berkeley, and I'm sure he had some cold games. But when you ask him about why he played so well at Green Bay, it's like, it sucks, he's got to embrace the suck, and also my hands are gigantic. You know, so that's kind of the thing.

1:07:04Pat McAfee:It becomes a mental kind of win over the other team. But Caleb, very new there. It's almost like Stafford has more experience in this particular weather maybe than Caleb would. interesting dynamic as we look at it, H. Yeah, it is. And obviously, both these guys have crazy live arms that can throw in this kind of weather. We know that, but it's true. It's all about the wind. Like, nothing affects the total score, I feel like, of a game more than the wind situation. If it's like 5-10 every once in a while, if it's gusting 25-30 mile an hour wind, that absolutely has a huge effect on both offenses, the kicking game.

1:07:36Everything just becomes more and more difficult.

1:07:38Pat McAfee:And mentally, you know, you can find out who's who. Not that these guys in a divisional round are going to be anything but dogs. Dogs are everywhere. But mentally when the wind gets going and it's cold and you start losing, like if you're not going to play good for like three quarters, that weather can be an added beatdown. You know, that can be an added beatdown. We watch it. Very different story. But we watch it with Tennessee versus Ohio State. There was a moment where it was like, this is the worst night of our lives. Get us out of here. How do you do that? That can happen when the weather gets terrible and cold and windy.

1:08:07Yeah, and if you go back to a year ago with the Rams, we talked about this before. They played the Eagles in a snowstorm. We remember Saquon banging on his head, running into the end zone, but the Rams were driving down the field, Puka Nakua, damn near going in to win, and then Eagles win the Super Bowl.

1:08:22Pat McAfee:So we're going to find out if the weather is a home field advantage for the home team is what we're going to find out. For one of the games. We would assume. What's that? For one of the games. Let's not say that in a very general sense. For Chicago, we're going to find out. Okay, another thing, though, here for Chicago, they've been training for this, allegedly. Adam Hodge, a journalist, is reporting, Ben Johnson has been making the Bears practice in the cold without heaters this season. Kevin Byard laughed and said, it's been a complaint amongst the players, but it's going to pay off this weekend.

1:08:52Pat McAfee:We've been miserable all season. With the complaining that happens, we've already done it. We've already done all the complaining. And Ben Johnson, the night before that speech, right before the game, you know, doing all of it, just saying, like, you've been cold, remember? You remember you were yelling. We never – that's what today is. You're no longer scared of the cold. You were born in the cold almost because it is an added fuel to how – because feel good, play good, you know. Yep. Cold can make you not feel good. Cold can definitely mentally get into some guy's heads pregame. You go out there to pregame for the first time, your whole team gets together, all right, here we go.

1:09:28And you go out there and you feel the wind and you feel how cold it actually is. And there's definitely guys that are going to be on that field that it'll be the coldest game they've ever been a part of. Some guys will get all gassed up by it and say this is awesome, and some guys will be like, whew, hopefully they run the ball today and this is a quick one because I don't want to be out here too long.

1:09:44Pat McAfee:Excited for football weather football. Yes. We have made it the divisional round. We have a head coach that has been hired, AJ. John Harbaugh hired as the New York Giants head coach last night around 11.50 p.m. I would have thought he maybe had a bedtime, but then I remember Harbaugh probably doesn't sleep. You know, still working out. Harbaugh probably doesn't sleep much. He's the new leader of the New York football Giants. Your thoughts, AJ? Does it kind of look like this is going to happen, but officially does yeah definitely you could see this coming it really i don't know what it is like the the new york giants brand it seems to to mesh well with having john harbaugh coming there you know you hear about him being a disciplinarian holds guys accountable all of that stuff so yeah this makes a lot of sense and what they what's his deal give him crazy amount of money too to come in there which i understand this isn't about the money for a guy like harbaugh but it's probably the best opportunity he has five years 100 million dollars obviously new jersey taxes in that entire thing so you add that in you factor that in like other states he was in maryland so i assume he had already you know accounted for all of that as he rolls forward but five years hundred million dollars which it immediately led me to say well then that means leflore okay leflore now knows exactly where the market is right if he was to be negotiating with the packers and shefter said they both expect the deal to be done both the packers and leflore it's like, okay, well, maybe Harbaugh has helped LaFleur's contract a little bit, or maybe Harbaugh has kind of set up what these coaches' contracts are going to look like going forward.

1:11:08Pat McAfee:$20 million a year, obviously Harbaugh, very accomplished, is a big number. That's a big number. I think Tomlin, there was a report that he had$50 million remaining. Two years left,$50 million. So he was making$25 million a year. Is that how it read? That is how I read it as well, yes. So I guess that is like a number that... I think him and McVay. We don't know. There's no official thing where it's only if the owners and the team decides to tell you what they're making, right, or the agent of the coach. Yeah, that's why whenever I saw five-year$100 million, I'm like, oh, they're reporting that like a player.

1:11:40Yeah, like a player.

1:11:41Pat McAfee:That usually is not the case. Maybe that is Mara telling the other ownership, good luck. This is what we got to do. You got to do it too. Everybody's going to have to pay it. If we know it, everybody's going to know what the new comp is. Not a bad gig. Take that head coaching role getting$20 million. Not that Harbaugh obviously isn't set and has been very successful for a long time. And we assume he's got businesses. So many. So many good businesses. I don't know if he's with Jimmy's Famous or not. That would have been a good investment. That would have been a good investment while he was there.

1:12:10Pat McAfee:Who knows if he's gone from that whole thing. But congrats to Harbaugh. Congrats to the Giants. Yeah, need to get a camera on him and Scadaboo's first conversation. Not sure if Harbaugh is aware of what Scadaboo's been up to. Need that. And then also the Giants are one of the most attractive jobs, right? They got the quarterback and you get a top five pick. Like, could you imagine if John Harbaugh goes in there and he's like, okay, yeah, I'll take Caleb Downs. And then they have one of the better young cores in the entire NFL right off the bat. He got a D-line too. I think the D-line definitely enticed him.

1:12:40He was excited about that D-line and what they can do.

1:12:42Pat McAfee:He has to hire an OC and a DC. Now, granted, there's a lot of OCs potentially available or any of them very great. I guess Harbaugh would have to decide that. There was a conversation allegedly that he wanted to stick with Munkin and not move on, but that was all when fodder was kind of out there to make excuses for why a separation happened. We don't know what's real and what isn't real. And there was a report last night, I can't remember which insider said, but it was a legit one that said that they kind of expect Munkin to go with him to be the OC. On your point, kind of legit, Rappaport was the guy.

1:13:11Pat McAfee:Rappaport, see Todd Munkin, is among the assistants expected to join John Harbaugh. Okay, so there it is. He didn't say coordinator, though. He didn't say to join as the coordinator. Yeah, I think he's probably just going to be a special assistant to the weight room. It was a quote tweet about the offensive coordinator. He's already had an interview with the Browns for head coach, though, so I think it's safe to assume that if he's getting head coaching interviews that he's going to be going as the offensive coordinator. Yeah, and we also now know with the Bishotti interview that, yeah, Harbaugh was gone no matter what.

1:13:42There wasn't some sort of like, hey, you're not firing Munkin or I'm gone. No, Harbaugh was getting fired right now, so that was complete bullshit. Another week.

1:13:50Pat McAfee:What an answer by Steve Bishotti. I hope he does more press conferences. Needed. I hope more things happen with him. Now, granted, the only time he has to speak is when things aren't going great, I guess. Yeah. Have to show face, you know? Yeah. Like, ownership has to show face whenever things aren't going well. Hey, we got a whole new thing about to happen. I would like to let you know you can entrust me with the decisions we're going to make. And Steve Bishotti did it in his own way that makes us say, we need more Bishotti. Love that guy. And Bashadi's saying, I don't want anybody to know I exist.

1:14:20Pat McAfee:No, he's ready to sell a team. He just needs to win a couple more Super Bowls. Somebody sent me a quote from him from a previous interview. Somebody tweeted it to me, I believe. And obviously, who knows if it's real or not real, but it's certainly in the vein of something I think he would say. They say the only thing better than being rich and famous is being rich. And then he just walked off. That's an incredible quote. Legend. That is an incredible quote. So I don't know if he said it. Whoever did say that, I would like to let them know. That's an incredible bar. And if it was Bishotti, we need him on a microphone more.

1:14:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, we need that to certainly happen. Other things happening around the NFL that we're learning about. The Mike Tomlin team meeting where he informed the boys that he was going to step down. I think we're starting to get a little bit more information from the scene in the room where it happened. Here's Christian Kuntz on the Christian Kuntz podcast. A little bit more information on him. He's the long snapper for the Pittsburgh Steelers. has been since 2020. He is the all-time leading tackler, I believe, for the Duquesne Dukes, which is a college within Pittsburgh. It literally sits on top of a hill on top of the Allegheny County Jail in the middle of downtown Pittsburgh.

1:15:28Pat McAfee:Beautiful. He went to high school at Char Valley, which is in Pittsburgh. This is Pittsburgh kid basically playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers as a long snapper. Here's him talking about what Tomlin said to him and his kind of thoughts on what the messaging was. I don't know how much I'm allowed. to share but I will you know he did make a point that you know he didn't have no desire to really coach any other football team but the group of guys that he was looking at with this group of guys so he did say that to us can things change you get offered you know 20 million to get he'll get whatever coaching job like whatever he wants whatever the hell he wants to do the dude's going to do so but like he did make a point to tell us you know in there that he was stepping down and he had no intentions on coaching any other guys but the guys that he's looking at and the crew that he yeah so like he had much much respect and obviously like you know guys like cam hayward are in there that have been been with him for 15 years i knew there was been there nine years yeah did you guys have any anticipation that this was about to happen was there any sort of like energy i'm telling you right now there was the only weird energy going on is when you lose it sucks right garbage bags guys are clearing out their locker guys are trying to get out of town quick like Like guys are trying to get exit physicals.

1:16:42There was no weird, you know, feeling besides that we lost and everyone's pissed that the season's over. And, like, we were just – we found out, you know, by the time we got out of the meeting and he had told us, it was on. Yeah, so he kind of echoes the sentiment that we're hearing

1:16:59Pat McAfee:from the athletic reporter, DeFalbo, who came out and reported that T.J. Watt said numerous times while the message was being delivered, no no no no no they said joey porter jr got emotional and started almost hyperventilating and crying in the room while the message was being delivered and then he reported that at the end of the meeting as is such you know for the locker room after a game where you know tom was there to greet just like coach rabel is whatever they did one last kind of take the tractor another round where he was at the door and basically dapped up everybody as they won through so But whenever you talk about emotional meeting and an emotional time, it felt like they were right in the middle of all of that, AJ.

1:17:40Pat McAfee:And I don't know if you've talked to Aaron, but it sounds like the players in the room, so locked in on everything that they were trying to accomplish this year, had no thoughts that this was what this meeting was going to be, which is, I guess now, kind of crazy to think about. But that's literally what a locker room and a coach is supposed to do, is keep his players so laser focused on something, as opposed to all the outside noise, AJ. Yeah, I've never, I don't know about you, I've never been in a situation like that where a coach has stepped down and told the whole team in a big team meeting that he wasn't.

1:18:09I know you had back and forth with Rich Rod where he thought he was going to go and he didn't and all of that situation. But I think the thing where it says one of the assistants claimed it felt like a funeral. That's what it feels like, a receiving line. Tomlin was at a funeral. Unfortunately, the family has to stand at the casket and have a receiving line when people come into the viewing. That's what this felt like when everyone was walking out. Obviously, it's not a funeral. when Tomlin has led these guys for so long. But yeah, the fact that they are so caught off guard is a little bit surprising.

1:18:38I guess maybe in their mind they thought, I don't know, maybe it's possible, but it's Mike T. He's not going anywhere. So I guess when it was official to them, that probably made them, that's when it really hit home.

1:18:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, 19 years is obviously a very long time. That's a building becoming an adult into its adulthood, sophomore in college, from literally birth of 19 years. So Rooney and the family in the Steelers building also probably pretty emotional. The players, though, is very fascinating to me how they responded. And obviously that bodes well for anybody who wonders about the type of coach that Tomlin was to these guys. Yeah, I've talked to a few different people in different areas of the building. The entire building was shocked and very, very bummed out. And what DeFabo wrote, a lot of people that I talked to, they said, yeah, it was kind of like a funeral in there.

1:19:25There was definitely tears. A lot of them, no one blames Mike Tomlin for the losses or whatever they've had this year. There was some talk about maybe they expected change with coordinators, but they never expected a change at the top. Tomlin's had a year left on his contract, and all the players expected him to finish that out. So, yes, it was a shock to all of them. I think it was a shock to most of the building. and it kind of it just shows like yes um the wins and losses didn't go everyone's way that we wanted to the last few years five seven years or whatever but i mean the impact that he had on all of his

1:20:05Pat McAfee:players lives was was incredible well and also it felt like all of pittsburgh emotional emotional bunch yeah blue collar bunch you know a lot of italians a lot of irish people a lot of emotional folks you know that ilk of individual oh yeah and it's like uh afterwards it's like we are thankful for him though like everybody in pittsburgh i think has the same message like hey we appreciate the hell out of what you did for pittsburgh immediately afterwards day of this guy needs to be gone okay let's get this guy the last four years get this guy fire tomlin chance in the stadium happening from pittsburgh people and then as soon as it's announced that he stepped down Pittsburgh people like he did the right thing and we appreciate him for that it does feel like there is not a lot of like uh like negative juice from Pittsburgh to coach Tomlin at this moment at all and it normally it takes a couple years right like normally there's like a couple year transition period where they like hate a guy let's move on yada yada yada and I'm not just directly talking about the Patriots and everything like that but usually there is like a couple year turnover where it's like yeah we will look back and think what he James Franklin at Penn State would be a good one.

1:21:13Pat McAfee:Like, I think they will look good. McCarthy and Green Bay. Like, a couple years where it takes a little bit to, like, kind of respect and appreciate what it is. Feels like Pittsburgh is a place that, like, immediately upon it happening, they were like, thank you for what you did and thank you for what you have done. And I think they genuinely feel that way. And it sounds like the entire building, including the players, didn't want it to end but also feel the exact same way. Everybody really grateful for Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh. That's abnormal these days, I think, you know, for a coach, especially at a place for how long he's been, and certainly a city like Pittsburgh, I think.

1:21:41Yeah, and it's kind of interesting seeing the correlation between Pittsburgh and Baltimore right now. They're kind of both going through that same thing where they were done with their legendary coach. It's just like putting an old dog down. You can see it coming, and you know that it's the best move for your family. But on the day of putting the dog down, it's sad. It's going to bum you out. And it might last a couple days, but three days later, one week later, all you're thinking about is the good times you had with old Yeller, with old Red. That's just part of getting rid of a legendary coach.

1:22:12But that is also the nice part of it. As a New England fan, it is nice being removed. And a little different, but still. It is nice being removed from the Bill era and then seeing old Cliffs. It's like, oh, that was such a good time.

1:22:23Pat McAfee:Now, Red was the damnedest dog. Yeah, he was. That I had ever seen. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. I know Red. I mean, you couldn't escape Red. No, you couldn't. His nose. Fast. Get to it. But the thing the red had was a hunger for love making. That's right. And Blake took advantage. He did. He did. Blake took advantage. Went over to Warden. Take that dog outside. A little blue thick hand down the street this way. Keep him away for a few days. That's all right, baby. And all of a sudden we're going, boom. He's going. Tennessee. There's a chance that he's gone. That you do think about the good times.

1:23:08dogs like red no matter what especially not even on the day you know 20 years from now you're gonna be thinking about old red no matter who you know your current dog is you're always gonna have that you know moment that moment that comparison to the two and maybe maybe the new dog's better but the old dog still has got some of those tricks well speaking of a new dog having to come into

1:23:28Pat McAfee:a lot of buildings more specifically the pittsburgh steelers one steelers president art rooney the second said he and general manager omar khan will lead the steelers head coaching search Omar Khan was quoted as saying, I ain't telling you anything. Yep. That is basically how he operates. He comes on our show. I think he likes us. He's told us that he likes us. He obviously knows the show. I feel like because we have Pittsburgh representation, people in Pittsburgh are forced to kind of know of our show. He's come on the show, though. Very rarely will give up anything. Very rarely. I mean, this guy plays cards close to his vest, and he plays it very different than old Pittsburgh Steelers regime with Colbert.

1:24:06Pat McAfee:Yes. He does his own thing. So I'll be excited to see what he looks for as opposed to what the old Pittsburgh Steelers would have looked for. Yeah. There's a chance he kind of writes his own kind of story with the Pittsburgh Steelers like he already has been doing over the last couple of years. Yes. Obviously, Omar is going to have a ton of say, but Art Rooney II is also going to be involved. And obviously he knew how his predecessors, his family has hired. He was actually the one who announced Tomlin as the hiring. And I think there's an early indication. Chuck Knoll was a DC, a young DC. Bill Cowher was a young D.C.

1:24:36Mike Tomlin was a young D.C. Right now, so far, their interviews, they have six young D.C.s and then the one offensive guy in Nate Schielhass, who is also young. But the oldest right now is Halfley at 45. Everyone is 45 or younger. Six D.C.s, one O.C. they've requested.

1:24:52Pat McAfee:We're looking for 20 years here. Who can be the 20-year coach? Isn't that what everybody's looking for, though? Yep. That's why it's a huge hire, because the Steelers have been able to do that and only have three coaches since what year? How long is it? I mean, that's wild. There's so many fans. There's coaches. There's so much turnover. Yeah, you don't want to. If you're the Steelers, you don't want to start that cycle and get out of what you've had with all this consistent success with these coaches. You don't want to have a guy for two years, and then all of a sudden, yeah, once you get in that cycle, good luck getting out of it.

1:25:22Pat McAfee:Well, I mean, Coach Kraft, sorry, ownership Kraft, you know, he just talked about it, did he not, about making the decision to move on from Coach Mayo after one year? because they obviously had the same setup for a long time. At GM and head coach, it was one person. It's kind of his world. We got great consistency here. Then they had to go to a new coach, and all he's thinking about is, I think this is going to be the next Belichick. We're hoping this is another 20 years, this guy leading the program, doing his thing. Instead, after one year, he has to move on. He knows that, oh, no. Oh, no. We cannot become the place that is firing coaches before their contracts are up because then I'm going to have to start paying so many people.

1:25:57Pat McAfee:but also that means we're restarting and restarting and restarting. That was like one thing we were good at. So him making that decision to move on from Coach Mayo after one year, especially with the amount of people telling him you can't be the place. What do you want to be, the Titans? Is that what you want? You start talking about places that have fired a lot of coaches. You want to be the bronze? Is that what you want to become? That's like a cardinal sin seemingly for NFL ownership at this point. So Kraft making that move was insane. Now would the Roonies be able to do the same if it happened in the same fashion?

1:26:26Pat McAfee:Who knows? but Kraft doing that was gigantic, I think, for you guys, especially finding the right guy. Absolute legend. You could argue it's probably the greatest move he's had since hiring Bill Belichick as the head coach and making him the GM and basically doing the same thing with Vrabel. It feels like the younger coaches are better for the more established culture places. Like Harbaugh, for instance, he's an older coach, but he goes to the Giants where they haven't had a good winning culture. Tennessee was the other team that wanted him. They haven't really had that culture since Vrabel, like the Steelers and the Ravens, and that's probably basically it.

1:26:57You could argue the Packers too. They could be places that could hire young guys and be comfortable, but there are some places that they might not even be looking for that cool young guy anymore. They're more looking for the Big Mike or the Harbaugh to bring in some sort of winning culture and then for that guy to maybe pass the baton to get the more young for 20 years coach. A team that perfectly exemplifies that is the Raiders. They were so bad for so long, and they were like, all right let's bring in a proven head coach who can change the culture they did with Pete Carroll obviously that didn't work but I'm thinking like that's kind of the thinking that Connor saying of though that was an organization that needed culture first then winning there's some organizations that already have culture so you can bring in a younger guy who could just win

1:27:40Pat McAfee:or whatever you know what I mean Seattle is Shula yeah they have culture yeah Schneider still there same GM still there is Shula gonna end up anywhere but Miami he better not if you're the Miami Dolphins and you don't give Shula $30 million because he's clearly the prince who was promised, his bloodline is the one that made the Miami Dolphins the Miami Dolphins to begin with, then you're an absolute buffoon. The bottles that are popping every single year during NFL season are because of Shula. Look at that Shula's coaching tree by the way. It's pretty ridiculous. So we would say maybe the family tree could potentially figure it out, especially if other people are going to hire him.

1:28:18Pat McAfee:If other people are saying this is a guy that we would like to hire multiple places saying we'd like to hire him it would be a pretty dolphins move to be like not for us though now gumpy diehard miami dolphins fan your thoughts on shula potentially coming home to south florida and making you guys a playoff contender maybe a super bowl contender i've been banging the drum for shula for a couple years now we tried to get him in as dc and uh he did not come then we got weaver instead but we do have a new gm it's sully from the Packers and Halfley's in there. There is a thought that Sully could go for Halfley because of their time together with the Packers.

1:28:56Halfley is already the odds-on favorite to be the next Dolphins head coach. And Shula's the favorite to be the next Steelers coach.

1:29:02Pat McAfee:Okay, so in both defensive minds, obviously you do what you have to do. I like that you're calling the new GM Sully already. I assume he's appreciative. John Eric Sullivan, first GM hire of the cycle, is by the Miami Dolphins after firing Chris Greer, which Dolphins fans thought would never happen. and big decisions have to be made down there. What does your team look like? Just as a whole, he's your quarterback. You name it. And speaking of, Gumpy, hey, good for you, buddy. You're back. He's been battling. Go, go. Yeah, big guys. The voice is back, finally. Gumpy's been batted in the last couple of days.

1:29:31Pat McAfee:You know, that vitamin C lackage, it seemed like he was not seeing up for a few days. Not seeing up, yeah. He was not seeing up. Have to be consistent with the C. Some people say vitamin C, the C stands for consistency, actually. Yeah, that vitamin consistency for the safety of you. Exactly. I mean, that is – I feel like I see it up pretty consistently all season, and I got it. I got it once or twice. It's inevitable, though. We know that. We know no matter what, especially for you with all the flying you do and the different – like you're going from 30 degrees to 60 degrees, 70 degrees all the time, and that will always get you.

1:30:04But the C, I think also – you could say the C also stands for closes. It kind of closes the window of how long you'll be sick.

1:30:12Pat McAfee:I think C has helped us this year. It's been a good tag team partner, and we're very appreciative for the seat. Gumpy, let's make sure you're focusing on seat. I have been seat up. Every morning I come in here before I hit the Hawkeyes, I seat up. I do fear that it was when I got back Saturday morning. I knew it had hit me when we got back. Oh, from Arizona to Atlanta. Yeah, that was when I got caught. And we got boozed up. So that didn't help. Yeah, that beats Donnie immune system a little bit. I'll get you. I don't want to you guys, you guys, but you guys ordering just the four shots. Can I just get a little Jack on the rocks?

1:30:49Pat McAfee:And then what is it? It's literally just four shots of Jack poured into an airplane glass with just ice. So that's a wild order. I appreciate and respect the fact that you guys do it, though. You're just ordering four shots to the head basically immediately. I love it. Sometimes you've got to do that. Sometimes you are required to do that. It's almost like a law of the air. It also doesn't help when you hit some turbulence and the flight attendant says, yeah, it's going to be bumpy the entire way home. I was like, all right, just give me that fucking bottle then because I'm not. Right now, I'm tired.

1:31:22I can't do this, okay? I cannot handle this turbulence for the entire way home. So just give me that thing. I'm going to drink the whole thing, and I'm not going to remember this.

1:31:31Pat McAfee:It is crazy whenever we're bumping. When that plane gets a rolling. When you're in the back and you see the whole tube move, when you're in the back. Is it so long? Yeah, you can see the whole thing and where it's going. It's not good. It's not good. Really. Well, you got a couple pies behind you. Those things are just sliding and going everywhere and falling off. And it's like, okay, well, hey, luckily this is only an hour and 20-minute flight. We can put up with this for another hour and 10 minutes. Good news is we head down to South Florida. That's a little bit longer. That's a long one. We're lucky to do it.

1:32:02Pat McAfee:We're thankful to do it. And we're going to be trying to send two people to the big college game today. We gave away four tickets yesterday. AJ will give away two today. It was supposed to only be two yesterday. We didn't take account for the super geniuses that would guess ahead of time what the entire sentence was before AJ and JJ and Darius and AQ were giving away what the clues were. Some people guess it. So we picked 10 winners from before the final clue being given and then the first 10 after the final clue were given, and then we randomly selected from those two groups to give two tickets to one person each.

1:32:36Pat McAfee:So four tickets yesterday, two tickets today. Today's a good one, Age. I don't know if you've seen it, the PMS SeatGeek punch-out age. When's it happening? When is the punch-out happening? Here in about 10 minutes or so, 15 minutes. I think we're kind of counting down to when that's going to take place. We've got a conversation with a great money man, a man who resides down in Miami now coming up here in a matter of moments. And then immediately after our conversation with the president of the University of Miami, Mr. Joe Echevarria, he will sign off and then we will take the Thunderdome court and the toxic table will take two big hacks at said punching bag.

1:33:13Pat McAfee:The highest of the two scores will be calculated with each other. And whoever can guess what that amount is, if there's 10 of them, we'll randomly select. If there's four of them, we'll randomly select one of the winners. And if nobody gets it right, we'll go up a point as opposed to the price is right rules, which will go down a point. We're going up a point to find the winner. A.J. Hawk. I love this. I think it's a great idea. I don't know what either – are they competing to see who can get the highest number? No, they've been really kind of quiet about strategy. No, because I think these two guys, just getting a view at them, there's a chance that they say like – Yeah, they're going to be saboteurs to the competition.

1:33:54Pat McAfee:Chance, potentially. I mean, there's so many different outcomes from these two. I mean, Boston Conner and Ty Schmidt. You also have to kind of get into their minds on what they're going to do to this thing. Maybe there's a backhand chop like Gunther. There could be. What if they do the Cena, though? What if they do the Cena from Fanatics Fest? Exactly. Head butt. I mean, look. Yeah, kick it. I could kick it. So who knows? Yeah, my legs might get up there. Okay, and I've seen somebody catch it clean on a kick. That's much more powerful than your arm would be. Yeah. Okay, and I think you'll definitely be able to get your foot up high enough to catch that thing clean and not miss it completely.

1:34:29Well, who knows if I'm going to bring in a chair and I'm going to jump off the chair. Oh, okay, yeah. That'll be power. We'll allow that. Spinning roundhouse, perhaps.

1:34:37Pat McAfee:Or flying knee. Off chair? Yeah. Okay, I like that. Can't wait. Yeah, I mean, there's a chance that any of this is possible. So if you're able to guess what the two scores are after these two do whatever the hell they're going to do to the boxing punching bag, and you're one of the first ten entries of that particular score, that's right, you could be randomly selected to win a pair of tickets. The big college game on Monday. Oh, my God. The big college game. Let's go. The big college game. BCG, baby. Mm-hmm. BCG. Oi! Oi! Oi! In Miami. Oi! Oi! Oi! You know what we're talking about, H? Oh, yeah.

1:35:18Pat McAfee:I know. We'll be there. Yes, we certainly will. Here's the two winners from yesterday. Congratulations to at LA Beck 81. You have won a pair of games. Yeah! What did it say? I don't remember what the whole thing even said. Let's watch football live from Miami. Yeah. Let's watch football live from Miami. Congrats to LA Beck 81. From our research, it appeared as if LA Beck 81 was an Indiana fan, so it actually worked out split yesterday. And quacked out 727, obviously a Miami fan. Congratulations. Yeah, boys. Good luck down there. Two winners there yesterday as opposed to just one. Those ticket prices are still very real, but obviously it stayed stagnant.

1:36:00Pat McAfee:Maybe even going down, some people are projecting. We have a guest with us right now, but there is no audio happening. Sure, sure, sure. That is a tough part of our show. If nobody can hear anything, you're kind of in trouble. Yeah. We dealt with it at the beginning. Yeah, with Adam Schefter, who's given us real journalism news and literally couldn't hear anything. And then, obviously, if our microphones are off, that's going to be tough. So we shall wait as we dive into a new subject with A.J. Hawk. Commander's new stadium looks awesome. Did you see it? Oh, yes. It looks amazing. Is it going to look just like that?

1:36:36Pat McAfee:We would assume, right? The renderings have been pretty accurate to what these people have been able to piece together as of late. I think Allegiant Stadium looked like what we thought it was going to look like. The Buffalo Bills Stadium is starting to look like what we thought it would look like. We think the renderings are much more accurate these days. And with modern technology, you'd assume that they wouldn't be putting out graphics that don't look like what it's going to look like. But, yes, back to your point, this is what I think it's going to look like, Gage. Beautiful. This is amazing.

1:37:00I know. What's the river again you guys talked about cleaning the poop out of?

1:37:02Pat McAfee:The Anasanya. And if you look to the – Anacostia. Okay, yeah. Yeah, the Anacostia. Great fighter, though. UFC. Great fighter. Yeah, well, also potentially maybe good ad deal there for him changing name. I apologize. He's a fan of the commanders. And of the Anacostia. Oh, yeah. But these are all parking garages here, you know, because not a lot of space in D.C. So the parking space is in massive parking lots. Let's go ahead and stack these things up. Classic building. I believe that is kind of downtown stuff whenever you don't have a lot of space. I like they put grass on top. Maybe that would be little tailgate areas up there.

1:37:33Maybe people would be able to do their stuff,

1:37:34Pat McAfee:or maybe they just don't want it to look like ass. And then the build of the stadium as a whole, when that thing's at night lit up with all the other shit lit up around there, that's going to be some beautiful shots, AJ. I think optically it's going to be very, very impressive as they sailgate on the Anacostia. Yeah, the sailgating is a very intriguing proposition. I think that'll be fun. So that whole, what is that route? It's all, this is like glass see-through stuff. There might be some weird shadows of those 1 o 'clock games. I think they have the same thing as SoFi where they can actually put the LED stuff on the top of it when you're flying.

1:38:03So I don't think there will be any of that issue that AJ's talking about.

1:38:06Pat McAfee:I love that with SoFi. Now, I don't know how many people really get to enjoy it. Next to none. It's just when you're on a plane. There's thousands of flights. I've seen at least an announcement for a game taking place later that night from a plane when I see it. drone shots when it's doing something cool on top. Yeah, those are always cool. Pictures are cool. Yeah, when we flew in, they had the cool for the Super Bowl a few years ago and the National Championship. They had a cool like, hey, big games tonight. And how about the Sphere being able to do what they do? That's a game changer. It's only a matter of time before there's a full stadium.

1:38:40Yeah, need one of those on the East Coast.

1:38:42Pat McAfee:Elon Musk buys a football team? Look for Sphere Stadium. Yeah. I'll go. That would be outrageous. It'd be terrifying. Are you taking any state money for that? Absolutely not. No, yeah. I will own this thing completely. We'll actually have a rocket show at halftime. Yeah. Oh, that'd be awesome. If the sphere opens up. Rocket. Straight up and through. Second half begins now. That's a great idea. The whole thing. Every game's a home game. You fly that bitch everywhere. Oh, they drop their dome on you. Yeah. Oh, my God. Wow. What's the weather? Oh, 70 and sunny. How do you know? Guess what's coming.

1:39:23The Space Stadium. The future.

1:39:26Pat McAfee:How many billions? 400-some? 600-some? I think he's a 700. That was the last I saw, and you never know what those numbers are. You know who. I thought you meant the owner. I thought you were talking about the owner. Of the Washington Commanders? I don't know what Josh is. 726 as of currently estimated. Elon Musk is that right there. So we would assume at some point he's going to just want to buy stuff. And what he could buy is everything with that amount of money, and especially, you know, NFL team if it becomes available. We thought it would have already happened by now. We thought he and Bezos would potentially be competing for a new NFL team.

1:40:05Pat McAfee:But obviously, I guess different interests, you know. Bezos shuts down all of Rome for his wedding. Yeah, for three weeks. Elon's sleeping on the floor still. Bezos still doing it. I mean, you know, they've got different interests, I guess. But if they want to get into buying an NFL team, I do think these stadiums of the future are about to be fucking outrageous. Just like this one is. This is beautiful. Yeah, gorgeous. Some of them have gotten really boring, you know, and kind of repetitive. A lot of buildings have. I think if we go into an architecture conversation as a whole, as somebody who gets to go see a lot of cities, a lot of cities starting to look the exact same, or a lot of cities under construction just look like complete ass.

1:40:37Pat McAfee:So it feels like modern architecture is a little bit difficult to judge at the moment because it feels like we're in a little bit of a transition phase. Don't want to act like I know architecture, but this is just my research as I've walked around. And then all the stadiums started looking pretty similar. And then it's like this one just looks good and looks like it fits the city in which it is in. And it feels like it's an actual monument. So I appreciate that they kind of thought about that seemingly. Yeah, that's why I'm excited for these other stadiums like Cleveland. That's a place where, hey, very traditional, old-school, outdoor stadium.

1:41:05And now they're kind of changing. That's interesting. And then Nashville. Like Tennessee Stadium, I think, isn't the round type. I think it is more boxy, square, rectangle, whatever it is. But shape of football field with the massive bar, I'm interested to see what they have in there. The whole thing for Vegas, newer stadium, the clubs they have, the sweet clubs where it's a whole entire couch area, the whole nine yards. And then what are they going to do for theirs? The Nashville team, I think they're doing a 100-yard bar, very similar to Atlanta that has that huge bar underneath the stadium.

1:41:39What's going to be their kind of little caveat? Hopefully it's just four-ply toilet paper and super, super nice stuff for poop.

1:41:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Anacostia getting cleaned up, good news. They're not having poop pipes bursting anymore. That's good news. Beautiful new stadium. That's good news. All eyes are now on the Bison outside the Buffalo Bills new stadium. I think we know. Are they up yet? Last match. I do genuinely wonder if they are deciding to bring the Bison in last. Like that's a conscious decision. Like when they break a champagne bottle on a big ship or something? They place the bison there to let us know, we are done, here we go? So what do they do in the circus? They put one of these big tarps over an elephant, right?

1:42:20Pat McAfee:Yeah. They have like those big... It's in a big tent. Yeah, it's... What do you mean? They need to put... So if you have the bison out front, first of all, they need to block the building of that thing so nobody can get eyes on these things. Fly them in at night. But then fly them in at night, land them, and then have big tent or curtain, stage curtains around. And then boom, drop, drop off, reveal. Yeah, we need a big one with, I think, Pyro from SMU. And maybe Chris Angel, too. Maybe Chris Angel is dangling from the thing upside down, getting out of a straitjacket. Sure. Move that bus guy, maybe.

1:42:55Ty Pennington. Can we incorporate live Buffalo into this somehow? Move that bus guy.

1:43:00Pat McAfee:Only if we bring Ralphie from Colorado, because this current Ralphie is a little bit more uncontrollable. Yeah, correct. So we want a little bit of chaos if we're bringing a live bison. That's what you were promoting? Yes. So I like your idea of kind of looking like a circus tent or your house is getting fumigated over top of the Buffalo. Yes. But I want it to be glass, but like a safe glass that's easily breakable, and then live Buffalo run out and they break the glass, and then the three bison are standing. Okay. Yeah, there's a chance that that is a perfect way to unveil a new Highmark Stadium.

1:43:32Thank you. Travis Pastrana, though, also needs to. That would work, too. Pretty cool. Pagoula's riding. If he's jumping a heavy bike, sure, maybe. Not a rocket. Maybe you get Sal Capaglia to jump a heavy bike. Well, yeah, he should be fucking... He's definitely doing that. Yeah, he's playing. He's got a couple sets when I open. And it... Yeah.

1:43:53Fire. Flames. Maybe his solo hits so hard that it breaks the glass.

1:43:57Pat McAfee:This has been all Phil time to get to our guests that we haven't been able to figure out the audio with for... Ah. Ten minutes. It's going to happen. They better have to chopper them in. They have to chopper these bison in. They're so big, I would hope so. You can't just put them on a flatbed. They're too big for that. No, you know those oversized loads that kind of drive by that have 14 police around it? Yeah, I almost got hit by one today. Really? Yeah, on the way in. You were on far lane, and they were coming in to left three? Rotary. Oh, and a roundabout? I went inside track on a rotary roundabout, how people say them here.

1:44:29What the hell is that? A rotary is what a roundabout is actually called. and so it's like an east coast thing okay i got no it's not east coast thing take a lot of pride in that that's they built that's where they started rotary phone bingo thank you yes a

1:44:43Pat McAfee:fuck whatever and so i'm on the inside track i'll tell you what these roundabouts i don't know it took so long to bring them into society but out here in the midwest where it's very flat it is a pretty perfect thing to add building them uh the process of them getting built sucks the process of your entire community learning how the hell they operate sucks. But once everybody kind of gets what's going on, what a true pleasure those round of boots are, honestly. See, look, you're proving my point. They're not out here because they started up there and everyone was like, that's stupid. You should put a stop sign in.

1:45:16But actually...

1:45:17Pat McAfee:I think they're probably from Europe, if I had to guess, because they didn't have as much space. I think the middle of Paris is actually one big round of boot. The Arc de Triomphe? No, I don't think they know shit about Rotaries. I think Ireland has some roundabouts. Those are just big circles. I assume England has some roundabouts. The Audubon is just that big, big circle. Well, if we're going to get into this, I mean, we can go all the way back even before England, but what I'm saying is in America, where Rotaries started, in this country, it was New England, and it was Massachusetts. All right, joining us now.

1:45:49Pat McAfee:They're called Rotaries. All right. Sorry. We'll see what actually in the city where he's from, the Bronx, New York City. I don't know if they have a lot of rotaries or roundabouts. Can't because the buildings are everywhere. If you have space, it's obviously spectacular. Johnny? No. We just lost video now. Just lost. Maybe we move this one to tomorrow. Yeah, good try. We appreciate him so much. We are so sorry, and we apologize. Just know that Joe Echevarria, okay, the current president of the University of Miami and the University of Miami Health Systems, a man who is in charge of 20 ,000 people, I do believe 20 ,000 workers and a guy who is a absolute dog after getting a chance to chat with him and is the only reason why coach crystal ball said he got up and left Oregon to go back home.

1:46:35Pat McAfee:Feels like the visions are all aligned down there and it all starts with this guy. Yeah. This guy loves ball and has done amazing things for the U and also his business acumen is outrageous. So we're going to have him join us today. Thought it'd been a cool mogul conversation. About the modern college football world and college sports world as a whole. but obviously technical difficulties just cause it to not happen. Speaking of technical difficulties, why don't you guys go show some technique. Come on. Head out to the Thunderdome. Go get it, boys. Thank you. Figure out who will win today's hashtag PMS SeatGeek.

1:47:07Pat McAfee:Punch out pair of tickets. Now, all day people have been guessing. Can you grab the handheld microphone over there? Yeah, and turn that thing on. Let's see you guys stretch.

1:47:19Because they're not getting it. We don't know if they're going to give a good faith effort in punching this.

1:47:23Pat McAfee:Okay, so that is an interesting part of the entire story, AJ Hawk, is what type of effort level would these boys be giving for their punches? They will get two punches. We will be taking the higher of both of them. So if they were to sabotage and be saboteurs, we would obviously have to get their second punch read. But if they're going to sabotage on both, that would be real commitment to the bit to do that. So we will have to put them on the spot. Ty Schmidt, would you like to punch first or second? Okay, and do you want to kind of reveal what your technique is, or do you want us just to watch it?

1:47:56I'm just trying not to break my hand and or my wrist. That's really the only technique involved here.

1:48:00Pat McAfee:It feels like he's not going to be swinging a hundo, AJ, with that particular stat. This is the hashtag PMS SeatGeek Punch-Ot ticket giveaway. Ty Schmidt, who appears to be open-palming the punching bag, will be going first. Who knows what his technique will be. Former baseball player, former pitcher. I do believe he's obviously been in a scrap or two. Doesn't mind punching the Game Buster punching bag. Go ahead, Ty. Good luck, too, by the way. Hope you don't break anything. Oh, no, lads. Oh, no, lads. Oh, no, lads. 163. Now, Foxy, let's not show the final number for the second punch. I would assume it is going to run a little bit longer.

1:48:42Pat McAfee:But what is happening here, Ty, if you could step aside for a second. This is a plastic piece right here. This is plastic. There's a little bit of pad up here if you were to miss by a bunch. But if you miss by that much, there is a full-on piece of really hard plastic right there. So Ty, I think, was trying to avoid that pretty heavily. And boy, you missed the whole damn thing. I did. If you wouldn't mind, let me run that back. Let's go ahead and just eliminate that one. Now I know what I need to do. I may have to sell out and may have to break my hand. Do you want two punches again? I do. Strike that from the record.

1:49:13Pat McAfee:No. No, that was your first one. That's why we're doing two. Now, granted, if you are not... AJ, who do you think should have to be satisfied with this particular punch for it to count as a punch? Would it be you, Ty, us? Because he wants that first one not to count because he didn't really... I think Ty should get that back. That weird safety thing is kind of awkward, so I'm okay with him having another shot at it. Okay, two more punches, two more actual punches. Connor, you will also get a practice punch if you would like one whenever you... Connor is turning down his practice punch. Okay, you will have two punches.

1:49:43Pat McAfee:Foxy, let's not show the final number because then people will be able to gain. Let's certainly watch that number run up as Ty Schmidt attempts to punch a bag here, either as hard as he can or close. I'm actually going to hit it this time. We shall see. I mean, that is the hashtag PMS Seeky Punch Out contest in a nutshell. We shall see. Boom! Ty Schmidt, the number's running! Okay. Okay. Ty, would you like to punch it again, or would you like to keep that one? No, it's over 700. You're good at that one. Okay, Ty will remain at that one, so he did only do two punches. So back to the original rules.

1:50:24Pat McAfee:Boston, Connor, it is now your turn. We have the first score locked in. Let's reset that. I thought we were going every other. But I'll get mine out of the way, and then Connor will get his out of the way. So, yes, I will go again. Okay, all right. I didn't know if you want to get into a flow, because it feels like you just connected with that one and maybe you want to feel a little confidence. I just don't want that first one to be the lasting image in my brain. It's going to be in ours, I think. I think that is kind of a part of the problem. But I understand you want to throw a heavy bomb. All right, if you would like to give it a go again, go ahead.

1:50:57Pat McAfee:We will take the higher of the two scores. First one, pretty good run-up. Pretty good run-up. Ty Schmidt out of Iowa. Boom! That one had a lot more thump in it. Jeez. Okay, that's a big number. Ty Schmidt. Ty, that feels good, having that one on the books. Yeah, I'm proud of that one. As you should be. Unbelievable stuff. Boston Conner, now listen, it feels like the bag is ready to be punched with what Ty Schmidt just did. Yeah, big time. He warmed it up for me and me and my sensei have been prepared for this. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Con man. Yeah! We'll try to add on to Ty's score. No run-up.

1:51:34Pat McAfee:He's going to be doing a standstill. Boom!

1:51:41We got to restart.

1:51:42Pat McAfee:Okay. That is a good score. I think you should feel very proud of that number. If that was to be your number, I think you would feel good about it. We have Ty's locked in. Ty, you remember what yours is, right? I certainly do. I do. I do remember what yours is. Ty does not. Okay, that's what we just learned right there. Okay. And now, Con Man, you can only add on to it with the second one. We will only take your best punch. How did you feel about your first one? No run-up, no nothing. Felt okay. Shoulder definitely moved a little bit there on the punch, so it hurts a lot right now. Are you going southpaw maybe?

1:52:13Maybe go southpaw. Might go with the knuckles, but I think I'm just going to have to unload on this one and hopefully feel something on this punch.

1:52:20Pat McAfee:Okay, sounds good to everybody. Good luck with your shoulder and to you. Boom. Boom. Boom.

1:52:35Pat McAfee:Okay, so we officially have the numbers now. I will text it to the back room. Good work, boys. I'm really proud of both of you. I will text it to the back room. And reset that real quick. Yep. Okay. That's a good idea. Okay. We got eyes on it in the back. Let's do the math. How do you boys feel after the big punches? The first one, you know, trying not to hit the thing, I think, is not the best move. I think you kind of just got to clear your mind and just hit it because, boy, I certainly did graze my wrist or something on that first one. It's a little tandy So if you're doing these at a bar Don't think, just do Bill Atta baby Bill, way to get back into it Way to go, Bill had to manage a lot of things there I saw him also bounce around That was his first button he hit So it feels like he might be getting comfortable with the horseback We appreciate you doing that Bill The first punch out of you Happens Especially with that plastic right there Sitting waiting to kind of just ruin your knuckles Also, that's the first drive on a first tee right there.

1:53:39Pat McAfee:You're right. A lot of eyes on you. Breakfast ball. Hey, your first, that was, you brought some real thump to that thing. I'm pretty impressed by your numbers, both of you. Connor, no run-up at all, no movement. Did see hardos at bars have those rules in place back in the day. But I would have, personally, if I was to do that, I'm taking at least one step into that thing. Your number, unbelievable. Well, I'm all technique. You know, I wasn't going for power. I was just going for precision. You brought it up earlier in the show, and that's why I hit the nose on the head both times. You boys certainly did not embarrass the program.

1:54:14Pat McAfee:Proud of you boys. Thank you. It's all about you. We will unveil the number and find the winners as we continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow back here on ESPN. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye. Okay, let's go to a break. Bruce will be able to find the winners as we do that. And that's tomorrow or today? What's that? Announce tomorrow. Just let them know. I think we let them know right now. Don't you think? Yeah, might as well. Okay. Yeah, I think we let people know right now. I would assume someone hit the nail on the head, right? I would think so.

1:54:44Pat McAfee:Because where you guys were, if you were to do some research, like I wonder what AI chat GPT would say, hey, adult males, kind of athletic, not seemingly the weakest, what would be a good? I think if you were to search that, it would give you a range. And then with the way you guys thumped it, I think it would obviously be at the higher end of that range. but I assume it was kind of potentially gettable. Yeah, I would assume so too. You guys threw some bombs, dude. Tried to. Seriously, I think you should be proud of your number. No move, no run-up. AJ, did you see that? He just sat there next to that thing.

1:55:16Pat McAfee:Hook. I would have crow-hopped into that sucker. Exactly. You got to at least get one step into that thing. You said nah. Just all rotation. Like I said, sensei fucking taught me exactly what to do. Sensei taught you well. Your sensei did well. I was at Buffalo Wild Wings. I had one of these with Tommy Zibikowski. professional boxer yeah it was awesome because i'm obviously i have seen my way around one of those before okay i have uh i have delivered a new number in bars before okay it is a fun time to do that friends of mine have more fun with it than i do that makes sense because normally hand ends up in bad spot because it's a shitty bag it's in the bar so it does the entire thing But like Zibikowski just standing there.

1:56:00Pat McAfee:All right, we're going to go southpaw. Bang. Perfect form. Poof, poof, poof. Through the thing. The thing runs up. Then he goes to the other side. All right, we're going poof right through there. And then like jab. Boom. Perfect right through it. It's like watching a professional punch thrower hit one of those things. It was like, holy fuck. There is levels to this shit. Because I'm just, hey, heads up. Coming in. As hard as I can. Over here, right. Yeah, exactly. Over here, right. Exactly. That thing works, though. You catch somebody, they're out. Here's Conor's punch. no movement. Wearing the Campbell jersey.

1:56:29Pat McAfee:No relation to will. But certainly relation to power. Let that thing run. I think I broke it. You might have. Did you? Do you have Ty Schmidt's second one? Your second one was the thump, right? Yeah. Yes. Your third one, I'm sorry. No, no, I'm sorry. I was going to say, that one didn't count. Yeah, we dumped the first. Stricken from the records. What's the highest anyone's ever seen? Do you know, like, has anyone ever witnessed a... Has somebody broke it, I wonder? I don't know. But I do know they're not all scaled the same. Yeah, I figured that. You know, like, you see some punches that go big, and it's like, and then you'll see other places where it doesn't go as high.

1:57:10Pat McAfee:It's like, oh, are they, like, trying to say that we're, like, the real one around here? You know, I appreciate that this particular establishment said, we don't just hand out 900s around here. We don't just hand them out around here. 900s got to be Tommy Zabikowski. You got to come in here and be a man. Yeah, exactly. Did he get 900? So I've never seen anything over 999. I've never seen 1 ,000. Yeah. I think some of them are the scale is. Yeah, I feel like I've seen some big guys blast it and get like 350. Yeah, McGregor got. I remember a video of McGregor doing it, and he got like 995. Like he didn't even get the highest.

1:57:45It's like, okay, well, come on.

1:57:48Pat McAfee:I mean, we need to get. Who is the person right now? Probably Mike Tyson. Anthony Joshua, I guess, but he's... He's retired. I would wonder, like, just, yeah. That's a sad story, by the way. Very. Especially with where he was. Yeah. How he was talking. I became a fan after that entire thing. And then all of a sudden, catastrophe. Crazy. Happens out of nowhere. That is sad for that. Who would it be? I guess... Fury. What's Jake Paul hitting that thing? I bet you Jake Paul. He's probably up there. Probably way up there. I'm not saying he's the heaviest hands. I'm just saying he would... CM Punk, maybe.

1:58:20Pat McAfee:Punk, yeah. Chuck Liddell. Chuck was at the game. Chuck Liddell. Jay Glazer, I guess, if we're really. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Glaze, yeah. All right. Set the record. Let's get to it. Here's Ty Schmidt's second thump, thump city. Solid. Just solid. Kind of pure. You can feel it go around the hand? Yeah. Yep. It slung shot off your hand. Exactly. You felt that. Exactly. Smooth. Good for you. Thank you. What a real coming-of-age tale Ty Schmidt's punch was from one to three. You could say that. If you're in a fight, you're not going to think, I'm not Sherlock Holmes. I'm not looking at the telemetry of this guy's face and thinking, where am I going to hit him in order to inflict the most amount of punishment?

1:59:04You're just going to fucking sock the guy. That was my mistake on my first attempt. Yeah, you punched him right in the throat. Exactly. Which also... It's actually smart. It's a very good spot.

1:59:16Pat McAfee:Coming down on it, too. Yeah, exactly. You were coming right to the sternum. That's how bad that hurt right in your abdomen. Swallow that one. That's the easiest place to hit, too. The head moves, sternum's still staying the same. Punch right to the sternum. Not a bad eye. Overhand right to the sternum. Fight's over. All of a sudden, that guy's... Cave chest, actually. Oh, how are you going to fight it out? That's what I thought. Boom. Bang it up. Take a bite. Out of their own... Adam's apple, instant death. Oh, I didn't know. That was a kill shot? Instant death, yeah. It looked like it had...

1:59:51Instant death.

1:59:52Pat McAfee:Need to get you in that Oculus. The Oculus has one of those in the training room, obviously. You train and then you box and then you go to arenas. You travel around, you win championships. In the training area, they have sensors on a full body thing. It's like, boom, bang, bang, boom. like there's a spot here obviously and it's like judging where you're hitting it's like oh this is what these boxers do all the time that's why they are just like lethal weapons everywhere because a punch we're watching it now in public a lot of people fighting and a lot of people just eating punches right now oh yeah in public there's people eating punches and uh those boxers they're there there's like little buttons there's buttons everywhere that they're just yeah what you're describing Maury Tanaka built in Three Ninjas.

2:00:40It was a striking robot. Exact same thing. Light up the eyes. Light up the eyes.

2:00:46Pat McAfee:That's why you go, ninja, go, ninja, go. Is that the same? No, it's not. It's close enough. They're both ninjas. I didn't know. Beverly Hills one's my favorite. It's a great movie. You and I have not seen those other ones, but we certainly, as soon as I mentioned that, Chris Farley on the back of a gate. My kids ask to watch it like every two weeks. They want to watch it. He's amazing. Not enough, Chris Farley. Top shelf Will Sasso in that as well.

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2:02:24Pat McAfee:Football! It's magical. That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks of Tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Boys, how do the hands feel? Feeling great. Yeah, all good. Loosen up. You guys proud of the number you put up? Yeah. Satisfied. Yeah. Satisfied. Not proud by chance, but satisfied. It'll be time right now, I think, to let the world know what your numbers were. AJ, if you had to guess what Ty's highest score was, what would you think it was? Oh, he's muted. Oh, he's muted. Bill. Uh-oh. There it is. There it is. easily. 875, I would say, if I had to guess Ty's score. 875? Okay, I respect and appreciate that.

2:03:03Pat McAfee:854 is what Ty hit on his third punch, technically, but in his mind, second punch, actually, for the contest. Right, Ty? That is correct, yes. 854, high score for you. Yeah, I'm good with that. I'd take that at any one of these deals at any bar. Yeah, I think you should. And then for no steps at all, Boston Connor, what do you think he threw, AJ? 884. Okay, you think that one was higher than Ty's? I think it's possible, yeah. 793. Almost cracked 800. The no movement, I think I've always seen a good punishment from the boxing thing gods. You know, if you're not going to take a little bit of a step into this thing, we cannot reward you as much.

2:03:45Pat McAfee:But I also think there is an inertia, E equals MC squared thing that comes into it. 793, no steps, unbelievable throw out of you. Are you happy or not happy? I wouldn't say I'm happy or not happy. I think I'm content with it, but wanting more. I can't wait to get back on the back. That makes 1 ,647 for a combined score of the two highest punches from Ty and Conman. There were people that got it right, and we obviously were able to find them. We are making a graphic right now to announce who won the pair of tickets to the big college game on Monday, and that will obviously cap off a massive football weekend.

2:04:21Pat McAfee:Divisional round, Two games on Saturday, two games on Sunday. Age, which one of the four happening over the weekend are you most zeeped up about at this stage? I mean, it's tough to pick just one, but okay, I'll pick two. The Beals and the Broncos right there, I want to see if Josh Allen can continue his brilliance against his Broncos D in that Rams-Bears game, man. I want to see what the weather's like. I want to see how they handle it. And I want to see if the Bears can figure out a way to continue the magic they have had lately. Do the Packers fans have a lot of, okay, we'll see to the bears.

2:04:53Pat McAfee:Is that kind of what this is? Are you guys actually excited to see what the bears are about to be in the NFC North for the foreseeable future? No. Yeah. I mean, I think they're legit, you know, like they, they won their record is good. You can only do that for so long until you're just a moron and you're just, you know, being a salty rival. Like, yeah, they've won a lot of close games, but there's a reason they win those close games and I'll just be interested because I don't know. I don't know if they can do the exact same formula they did last week. I think if they have to score 25 points in the fourth quarter, I don't know if they can beat the Rams that way.

2:05:24Pat McAfee:Texans, Patriots also happening on Sunday. Con man, I see you in the Campbell jersey, obviously representing. I assume you're going to have your Nike tech on because that's your classic playoff outfit as we go into a big-time weekend. Of course, last day before the weekend, before the game. Your thoughts on what it's going to take at this moment to beat this Texans team? I think it's just going to take being able to run the football. If you can hold on and actually get yardage against that defense while keeping CJ off the field, especially with it being a very, very cold game, possibly having some snow flurries throughout the game.

2:05:55I think that'll be enough. I would say Drake has to play perfect just to have a chance. But, again, if we can run with Ramondre, with Trevion, and be able to kind of just do our normal defensive thing, I don't think we need to do anything kind of crazy on defense. It's looking like right now Nico Collins is not going to be playing for the Houston Texans, which is huge. Gonzo practiced yesterday. He is in the last stage of the concussion protocol, so I feel very good about that matchup. But the biggest thing will be running the football.

2:06:26Pat McAfee:You talk about Nico Collins potentially not playing. Concussion protocol has been what it has been since the modern-day concussion knowledge has been. If he was to play this weekend, that would be a massive thing for, I think, his brain being able to bounce back, but also, in general, being able to maybe play the next week if you're diagnosed with a concussion. And him being out, obviously a big difference maker. Fred Warner being out, the San Francisco 49ers lineup, kind of led us to believe that the Niners were dead. This guy's way too important to their football team. Alongside Bosa not being able to play, there's no way this team's going to be able to go on a run.

2:06:57Pat McAfee:Well, they did. Playing for the number one seed in Week 18 against a team they're meeting now in the divisional round, the San Francisco 49ers and the Seattle Seahawks. Conversation around Fred Warner. Fred Warner, very positive, optimistic. I think he has to remain that way. Conversation from other people is like, maybe not this week, maybe next week. We got some tape on Fred Warner running around the practice field. AJ, your thoughts? Because he seems to be skipping pretty good. And then when he hits the sled, we don't know if it's the distraction from the person walking to his left or if it's the actual rep.

2:07:25Pat McAfee:You know, that's interesting. That was the running back, obviously. He shed a blocker to get to the running back there. But the way he hit that and lifted his leg, I think we're all kind of worried about. Right, aren't we, AJ? Yeah, a little bit. It looks a little awkward, but you see how bouncy he is. Like, this is a guy that's coming back that, you know, has been off the football field for a long time. So it's good to see that. But I don't – yeah, it would be crazy if he's out there playing this weekend. He looks jovial. Yes, yeah. Looks great. Looks like a guy that gets to play football again that has taken away from him for the last three or four months.

2:07:55Pat McAfee:And a guy who loves ball. You know, there's some people that get away from game and say, you know what, I'm good with it actually, not being in my life. And then there's some people like Fred. We've watched him. I think he was on the sideline. I think he was on camera. I think there was multiple times where he was trying to get back. And obviously everything he said is, I'm playing. He's striding out pretty good right there. Straight line will be fine. Straight line, I think, will be okay. I would just stop being and starting and all of that changing direction when you have something like that.

2:08:19It was his ankle, wasn't it? Yeah. And it was pretty serious. So, yeah, that's the only thing I would worry about or being engaged with a blocker with your feet in the ground. Those are all the little things that you've got to figure out what you can do.

2:08:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, San Francisco takes on the Seattle Seahawks. We'll see the 12s in prime time in the divisional round. Number one overall seed, Seattle Seahawks, favored by seven tone. Where's the money sitting and why is it sitting like that, you think? Yeah, so they've already played twice this year, obviously being divisional opponents, Seahawks being minus seven. Niners won the first meeting 17-13, and then if you remember in week 18, 13-3, the Seahawks won. It's been two close games. It's been two games that have gone under both times, so that's something to look at. As of right now, the percentage for the – let me see here.

2:09:05Let me make sure I get it right. is 73 % on the Niners at plus seven.

2:09:12Pat McAfee:Fascinating. Fascinating. Seven feels like a lot to me. Yeah. That's a divisional game. That's right. A lot of points. That's a lot of points. That's a lot of points for a divisional game. And Kittle being out is huge, but Tungus has played. Like their backup tight end, Jake Tungus, and he's done well. I think it was during the Mac Jones time when he was playing quarterback, not with Purdy, so it'll be interesting to see that. But still, solid backup. Home field advantage is real in Seattle. Can't wait to see how that kind of affects the entirety of the game. Obviously, the Niners players are very used to it.

2:09:41Pat McAfee:I got a chance to see the Niners play the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. That place was loud, and obviously they were able to handle it. Denver, you know, at altitude, 5 ,280 feet, exactly one mile above sea level. Orange Crush, I believe, is what their fan base is known as. I've always enjoyed playing out there. It always felt like you were playing in a very awesome place. Sean Payton's talking to the crowd saying, Hey, I think we got a little bit of a misunderstanding going on on when we need the noise. And I'd like to correct that this weekend once and for all. For years, we were conditioned to raise the noise level when they broke the huddle.

2:10:14The noise level needs to be loudest when they enter the huddle. And then can you do that? Hey, can we do that collectively for 120? No? I just need it for half the snaps in the game, right? So say 65 snaps of 10 seconds, that's a huge advantage.

2:10:44Pat McAfee:He's coaching up the fans right now. 10 seconds longer, right? 10 seconds longer than normal. I think he's just saying if we can just get them in the huddle, we don't have to worry about anything else. You guys are thinking about everything but the huddle. All I'm saying is only worry about when they're in the huddle. We don't have as many guys. Now, Josh Allen in the huddle at the line of scrimmage. We think he'll be able to maybe make some plays and maybe Audible will change some things up. Josh Allen, obviously, NFL MVP. But I think Sean Payton was trying to make a point like, we have it backwards here.

2:11:13Pat McAfee:If you want to be quiet during a time while the play's happening, go ahead and be quiet. We need you in the huddle. And then he was doing the math in his head because I assume he tells the players, I need this for 120 plays. I need you to just kind of lock in, don't look at the scoreboard, 120 plays, and we'll see where we're at at the end of that. So he was getting into coach speak to the fans right there. He was like, can I get that for 120? Well, I guess not even. Hold on. Easier. It's even easier than 120. Can I get it for 60, 65 plays? 10 seconds. I need you to ruin their huddle for you. I like that he's doing this.

2:11:43Pat McAfee:This is very good a ball as a whole, not just in Denver, I think. Yeah, Michael Thomas quote tweeted a tweet about Sean Payton's coach speak, and he said that there's a photo of the Super Bowl trophy with all the money that you could make from the playoff checks throughout the entire playoffs. And I guess it's a true story. in New Orleans, he basically wheeled this out in front of the entire team. I don't know if we can find the tweet Michael Thomas tweeted it out, but he wheeled it out in front of the entire team and basically said like, hey, you want this? You want legacy? You want everything forever?

2:12:09Win three games and you get all this money. You get this Super Bowl trophy, not including the parade in the entire thing. He does seem to be one of the best motivators and if I'm Denver, if I'm the fan base, I'm excited to watch the game now and then listen for when they are in the huddle more so than when they're actually on defense.

2:12:26Pat McAfee:Here's the tweet right here that you actually called for and it was uh he quote tweeted a tweet from broncos for six sean payton once brought this into the saints locker room and said y 'all want this win three fucking games okay is this what you want is this what we're looking for yeah three games sean payton loves the playoffs obviously a man who has had massive success also a play uh coach who has been traded for a number one overall pick and a second round pick is that what we're staring down in the future with coach tomlin is what everybody's asking now if he's not going to get into coaching this year hardball getting 20 mil a year allegedly being reported is that going to sway some other stuff happening but sean payton is a guy that obviously the entire world respects as a football coach and sean mcdermott is a guy that if he doesn't want a super bowl soon people will just refuse to compliment him ever you know everything is like good josh allen's the reason why this is all happening not because the coach and i assume he doesn't necessarily think that's fair but i know he doesn't care but he has to win or it's going to get loud with coach mcdermott always in buffalo it seems yeah and if he were to win this year, you could argue that he has done more with less.

2:13:30Obviously, Josh Allen is who he is, but man, what do they have? Three healthy receivers playing on Sunday? They just have so many injuries and they've withstood everything. Then if they were to go on the road and win these three games, I think you could probably put to bed. Obviously, his job security would be good, but what they have continued to do with maybe not one of the better teams that they've had in the Josh Allen era, I'm very, very excited to watch that game.

2:13:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, I liked the Buffalo. I could not believe. That was the moment right there, I think, in that drive when it was taking place where I was like, what am I doing, dude? I picked the Jags. And I was even questioning people that were telling me that the Bills were going to be. I was like, Dan, I'll ask you, what the fuck do you know, dude? These Jags seems unbelievable. I saw them against Colts. Colts a little different than Josh Allen led Buffalo Bills. A little bit. What was the big pop right there out of your mouth? Because you're right. But you do get kind of lulled into that when you see them live in person.

2:14:22I mean, you were saying, is Josh Heinz Allen the biggest fucking guy in the NFL? Yeah, I think he is.

2:14:27Pat McAfee:Like, that can sway you. How do his knees keep up with his size is what I wonder with Josh Heinz Allen. How is anybody going to beat this? And then you're watching the game unfold, and it's like, I forgot we were putting an eye on the second L for Josh Allen. I was watching him warm up. He's a strapping young lad as well. Like, without his pads, his back. Josh Allen? Yeah. Yeah, and he runs people over. And then this whole thing, people getting upset about it. It's like, look at their team. Their team chemistry is outrageous. Like, if your offensive line and your quarterback is getting picked up and dragged 12 yards, that's a team chemistry indicator right there.

2:15:03Pat McAfee:Hey, everybody is willing to sacrifice for this squad. And we've obviously learned that. And James Cook being the best back in the game behind Josh Allen. And then you talk about the wide receivers, everybody being hurt. It's like, they may do, figure it out. Brady's going to be up for some head coaching jobs, especially with how cool his fate is. Whenever he sits down in an interview or his picture gets out in the city, they're going to be like, yeah, we definitely want a young, cool, innovative offensive coordinator. It's like so much can happen in this Buffalo Bills team. They could lose this game, and everybody's going to be calling for everything to change.

2:15:30Pat McAfee:They could win it all, and everybody's going to say, this is the greatest team win in the history of sports. And then all their coordinators are going to get plucked for head coaching jobs. It's like such an interesting dynamic on where the Bills could go. Well, it's sweet, too, because I think Curtis Samuel, one of their wide receivers, got activated. I think Shefty mentioned, and Ed Oliver. at Oliver, one of their highest paid players. This game and just the entire thing just kind of reinforced like, hey, if you don't have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, it's going to come back and get you.

2:15:58Like if you don't have one of those top five guys like Josh Allen, you will end up playing one of them, and then inevitably he's going to run over and dance on your face. Also, Bills winning would be massive motivation for Houston and New England when they host the AFC Championship. The Texans have yet to host a game. Obviously, they played at Pittsburgh. They're a wild card team. If they beat New England or if New England beats them, they then get to host the AFC Championship game against the Bills. Imagine that home field advantage. We already saw the Bills go to Houston and New England, and they came back.

2:16:29Houston with that defense, with that crowd, that should be illegal. Yep, I agree.

2:16:36Pat McAfee:Seattle, I guess, same thing here. We're about to watch that. Football's about to be great. Yes, it is. And then the big college game happening on Monday. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the winner. We picked from the first 10 people to get the right answer, the combined power scores. And then we randomized, used an AI randomizer out of those 10 to find one lucky winner. Congratulations to Colts fan Caden, 56. Congratulations. Obviously, a massive amount of Indiana people trying to win these tickets, as are Miami Hurricanes fans. One Miami Hurricanes winner from yesterday. Two Indiana Hoosiers seemingly fans over the last two days in our three giveaways thus far.

2:17:18Pat McAfee:We'll have another one tomorrow. Ty with an 854. Comman with a 793. Total is 1647. You do the math. And Colts fan Caden was one of the first 10 people who got that right on X using the hashtag PMSCgeekPunchout. Randomizer out of the first 10. He wins. Congrats. Enjoy the hell out of Miami down there for the big college game. Travel and hotel not included. figure that out yourself. Good luck. And also, when you get down there, the traffic's crazy. Plan accordingly. Yes. Wherever you're staying, whatever you're doing, it's going to take a long time to get it to wherever you're headed. That's just inside information.

2:17:59Pat McAfee:I can't wait to get down there for that game. It's going to be buzzing. I'm pumped. All these games. I mean, starting on Saturday, it's going to be buzzing. Isn't that crazy? The text from the people that aren't in the football world about how much football they consumed last weekend, Super Wild Card weekend, leading Thursday, semifinal, Friday, semifinal, Super Wild Card, Super Wild Card, Super Wild Card. It feels like it's just been like four, has it been four or five straight days of just football, football, football, and all the games were so good. And I assume the numbers will be outrageous for what just happened during Super Wild Card weekend with the amount of people watching.

2:18:35The divisional round, two on Saturday,

2:18:38Pat McAfee:they're going to be bangers. Two on Sunday, they're going to be bangers. They're about to do it again. Congratulations to football fans. We're in it right now. Good ball all over the place, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, I can't wait. You know, I mean, even not having a dog in the fight and the times, the start times are also absolutely perfect. You know, a couple of those last weekend where it's like, okay, hey, you know, I've been waiting here. Let's fucking move this game up or let's start earlier in the day. All these start times ensure that you're not going to be too sleepy when you're watching the games.

2:19:07Pat McAfee:Jimmy Trena is reporting the wild card ratings. 28 million for Rams, Panthers, 31.6 for Packers, Bears, 32.7 Bills, Jags, 41 million Niners, Eagles, and then Chargers, Patriots on NBC, 28.9 million. And I don't know a single person that wasn't watching them. So those 28 million people include everybody in my world that aren't even in the ball world. I couldn't tell you somebody in my life that did not watch one of these games. And, boy, it's great to have it that way. Coach, Rich Rodriguez is calling me right now. I'm wondering if we're trying to sign. Yeah. Hmm. Believe they – What's going on, Coach Rod?

2:19:49Pat McAfee:We're going to build some magic? Go ahead and mute my mic. I thought there was one of the workouts. I think they brought in – Don't mute his mic, Bill. Hung up. Hang up. I heard me, Mackie, hung up. Go ahead. What'd you say? I think they – I heard a stat earlier today. Like, they have brought in maybe more people than you have scholarships for. like they've brought in an absurd amount of human beings. I think we know what he's calling for then. Yeah, I think we certainly would understand what the potential call is about. Or maybe it's just, hey, your thoughts on this, or hey, we're thinking about doing this, or hey, will you be a part of this?

2:20:22Pat McAfee:You know, a lot of those potential conversations in this particular aspect. But, yeah, I think what you're seeing with those numbers is Rich Rodriguez looking at our locker room and saying, a lot of this locker room, soft. We fucking want hard-edged motherfuckers in here. That is like kind of his only expectation is we need hard-ass dudes in here. So the amount of turnover that's about to happen in that roster, I assume, is gigantic. And there's quotes, you know, floating around. And I get screen shot of them and send them to me. And I'll tell you, Facebook is a crazy place. I'm not over there a lot, but Facebook announced that my wife and I had our kid.

2:20:57Pat McAfee:You know, I started getting a bunch of text messages. Those numbers, they do big numbers as well. Facebook has obviously put quotes in my mouth that I've never said that people believe in those huge numbers. I think Facebook is a little bit of a farm for far-fetched things. But potentially believable. You know, so it's like an interesting, Facebook's an interesting dynamic. Not saying that's bad. I don't really do the Facebook much. But I do think my mom is on there a lot. Other people, and they see things, screenshots, send them to me. And it's like, oh, that's not true at all. And then you look at the number, it's like, whoa.

2:21:29Pat McAfee:A lot of comments. A lot of people have seen it. It's like, wow, a lot of people are probably changing the way they view about things. It's not just me, which I have experienced personally here, and the amount of text messages I got for congratulations on a baby. My wife, which I'm thankful for the congrats. If you thought we had a baby, it's very kind of you. But we have not. That's just not real. And then it's huge in its entirety. But there's a couple over there that gets sent over. I forget where I was headed. We did not have our baby, though. I reminded myself to make that announcement. I'm thankful we're here.

2:22:00Pat McAfee:My wife and I, thank you to every—I can't respond. I got like 50 text messages? congratulating me on new baby. And I was like, did we? What happened? What the hell's going on? There's something I don't know, Sam? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a screenshot from one of my West Virginia teammates. It's a big group text popping off right now of the West Virginia alum. There was a screenshot of something on Facebook sent in to either that group or texted to me directly that said one of the ex-players said it was like, it wasn't any fun. It was like too hard, like all the practices. There was no fun.

2:22:34Pat McAfee:It was too hard. somebody that was transferring out. Now, that is believable, but I don't know if it's an actual quote. But let's say it's not a real quote. It is believable enough that that is what Rich Rod is trying to kick the fuck out. Yeah. Like, you know what fun is? Fun is winning football. Like, that is the fun. Rich Rod used to say, fun is kicking somebody's ass. And it's like, because he knows that it's not necessarily the most, you know, we're not bringing Will Ferrell out here. Yeah, exactly. Will Ferrell's not coming out here. We are a bunch of – this is a hard-edged place. So he's trying to find those guys.

2:23:08Pat McAfee:And I assume I'm going to be tasked with helping there. Maybe the Irish lad. Maybe it's just with the Irish lad, the punter they're bringing in. Yeah, we got a 6 '6 kid, guy coming out of Ireland. Punter? Punter. No, kicker. He's a field goal kicker. Kicker. Oh. First kick was a 55-yarder, I think. They sent him out there. He was on Miami of Ohio, maybe. I don't know. He played max goal. 6 '6 monster of a lad. just smooth swinging a 55-yarder in college. It's crazy. He's coming into town. We got some edges. We got a quarterback coming in. We got some linebackers coming in. Kevin Brown. Kevin Brown.

2:23:43Pat McAfee:We got a staple at offensive line. Hawkins. Yeah, this kid's name is Jack Cassidy. Jack Cassidy. Way to get to that. I was just going to call him Jay, but Jack Cassidy. Might go by Jay. Every chance we get us by Jay, what I like to call him is Jacked Cassidy. this dude is absolutely shredded you know Iris is a slant show buddy thank you for joining us alright so we gave away the contest winner congrats Sam we got another contest tomorrow people should tell people that we're doing another one tomorrow we have to figure out what that is in the next 21 hours AJ if you have any ideas we'd love to hear them maybe like a Merry Quizmas between like Mitt and D-Bone or something about country music or sports I don't know Okay.

2:24:29Pat McAfee:Maybe something to think about bringing Mitt and D-Bone into the play. Keep thinking. Maybe we have him race or somebody gets it. Actually, much better. Do a race around the Thunderdome. One lap. Maybe two laps. What's the time of two laps around the Thunderdome? Maybe they're alternating, tagging each other. Oh, look at Relay. Yeah, they have to do four laps. We'll put Talk in there, too. Talk's a runner. Mitt's a runner. D-Bone's been jump roping, right? He has been. We've been... Is he boxing or what? I think he's just getting back into the swing of things. You know, new year, new bone. The feet moving.

2:25:03Pat McAfee:It's good. We enjoy seeing it. Full hoodies with a hat on, still working out with a hat on. Exactly. Which I like to play. So we have a four-by-one team. Yeah. Who's the fourth? Around a Thunderdome. Who would be the fourth runner? Bruce runs. I mean. Foxy runs. Foxy can't run. Bill Colvis was a high school staff champion. Bill has to be the guy. Yeah. Okay, so it's Bone, Mitt, Talk, and Bill. And does it start here? Yes. And then they sprint out the front door. And then they come back and tag? Do the loop tag. Let's get a rug in here. Oh, yeah, I guess that's good. Maybe at the end of the rug.

2:25:40Who's running last? Oh, the temperature outside those lungs are going to be burning.

2:25:43Pat McAfee:Burning. That's good, though. That's what we're looking for. People have to predict the exact time. Yeah. We got it. This is fun. This is what these boys train for. That's right. Yeah. This is why Mitt is running four miles straight, seven-minute miles. Flat-footed. Nonetheless. On the treadmill? It sounds like what Connor's saying. Four miles, seven-minute miles straight through. That is. Dang. Oh, yeah. He's going. I'm not doing that. He gets on, and then he stops running the next time his brain has a thought. Jeez. Jeez. I mean, that's actually a skill if you could do that. Mick can turn off his brain and focus on things, which we do exactly to your point.

2:26:27Pat McAfee:It is a skill. Mick, that was not true, what Tone just said. Pretty good, though. Pretty good. D-Bone did just say he was a regular in the Fat Man 4x4s in high school. Yes. So he has also been training for this his whole life. Okay. So is Bone going last? He's the anchor. Yeah. Well, literally. Tortoise and the hares. Yeah, we know. We know that. All right. So that's tomorrow. So people are now going to be trying to figure out how long. Yeah, but they have no idea what the actual track is. And the hashtag. Because it could go out to a tree and come back. It doesn't have to necessarily be around.

2:27:02I was going to say, because the terrain out there, one of these guys might break a leg or it might be 20 minutes.

2:27:06Pat McAfee:Yeah, blow a knee out. Caleb, by the way. Yeah. Caleb's ankle did a full basketball roll on that thing. I think basketball ankles just throughout their careers, childhood, high school, I think they kind of get calloused up to rolls because it happens. I remember when I was playing at Boyce, you know, a little pickup basketball out there at Boyce Park. I rolled my ankle, and it felt like that thing exploded. And it actually did. I swelled up, and then I watched, like, two other guys who play hoops their entire lives. Their ankles roll, and, like, nothing happens. I'm like, do they build up calluses to, like, rolled ankles?

2:27:38Pat McAfee:Caleb Williams' ankle looked like that thing was going to be blown up and be problematic. Do we have an update on that this week because of what it was? He steps on the guy's shoe. Boom. I thought it was over right there. Because that one is, like, very annoying. That's, like, a very annoying. Now, obviously, they can give them some pain pills, and as the game's going, you would hope you'd be able to finish that game. But, like, what is the fallout from that? Because I've had something similar to that, and that thing was beach ball. You know, absolutely beach ball in there. I would assume. I know, like, whenever I'd roll my ankle bad, they would put, like, a horseshoe-type, like, felt-like cloth thing, and then they'd strap it on to push the blood up away from your ankle, and then your whole leg is just bloody underneath the skin.

2:28:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, so I don't know if there's an update on what is happening with Caleb's ankle, but that would certainly happen to somebody out here. Yes. Yeah, there would be multiple. Yes, automatic. That's a risk we're willing to take, right? Yeah. Hey, two tickets to the big college game. Yeah, good point. That's a good point. That's what it's all about. I mean, and then after that, we don't need to find another one. Don't need another one, no. That's it. Maybe on Monday. No, it would be too tough to get somebody to Miami. Miami's so far of a trip. Miami's so far down there. I was thinking maybe Monday we think about doing a giveaway where we offer somebody to get on a plane to fly.

2:28:56Pat McAfee:That's a far trip. I don't even know if you can. You could do a local. You know, some locals, you could somehow do a giveaway for them. Oh, do like an actual scavenger hunt where we bury a couple within the city. Hide them somewhere, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure we'll do that. That's a lot of leg work. Put them like just three inches outside the stadium somewhere. Now, on that note, I do think. Might incite a riot, too, which is. Yeah, you're right. These are a hot commodity. Especially down there, how that stadium is done with letting fans in. Oh, yeah. Just breaking in. Crawling through the vents like mice.

2:29:30That was unbelievable.

2:29:32Pat McAfee:Getting in here. Getting in here, for sure. I'm excited for the World Cup. Speaking of that, soccer really brought out some. Yes. Some environments. Some stuff. Yeah. And now that we know that. Yeah, they were. That was awesome. This was happening. Awesome. I heard there's going to be extra security Monday at the game. Oh, yeah, because President of the United States of America? The commander-in-chief? You do this, they'll shoot you in the fucking head. All right. We do not know if that's true, but I will say it's going to be pretty buttoned up down there. Us walking around on the sideline, I assume, just got a little bit more restricted.

2:30:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, probably. Before that particular tweet went out in the public. Yeah, this is the only area we need. You guys understand that. We won't do anything else. Absolutely not. Since those are kind of our spots now, we should maybe have like leather couches brought in. Oh, you think we should be sitting down? Could you imagine legs crossing? Oh! Hey, hey, hey. A couple of drinks, maybe a little popcorn. Just so disrespectful to the boys. Their goal line for the national championship, they look over. Well, we'd stand for that one. Of course, yeah. Yeah, maybe unless you're a little exhausted. Yeah.

2:30:38Pat McAfee:Maybe napping. Maybe fell asleep at some point. Can't do that. We're so incredibly lucky to be on the sideline of this particular game, these particular games. It's been a hell of a run to this national championship by the Miami Hurricanes, which we were there, Texas A &M, when they battled not only the Aggies, but also 110 ,000-plus of screaming Aggie Nation, and then also like 25, 30-mile-an-hour wins that just kind of dominated that entire game. Then they beat the hell out of Ohio State. Then they outlast Ole Miss, and then they get to the national championship in their home stadium and have to take on who?

2:31:08Pat McAfee:Oh, the team that's been the most dominant in the history of the college football playoff. A quarterback who has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entire college football playoff. A defense that is so fundamentally sound that you wonder if they have any weaknesses. Well, Miami and Cristobal are going to try to find that out with Carson Beck, a quarterback, taking on the Heisman winner, Fernando Mendoza, and Coach Signetti, and a mad scientist defensive coordinator named Bryant Haynes in Shanahan. It's going to be special on Monday night. the big college game. All right, let's get the hell out of here.

2:31:46Pat McAfee:Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. We're back tomorrow. We're giving away another pair of tickets on the program. Be your friend, tell a friend that. AJ, any final thoughts here for the boys as we look ahead to divisional round eve tomorrow on Friday? Yeah, we need to enjoy this weekend, no question. We got, you know, football is, you know, it's fleeting as we move into the future, so let's enjoy it right now. College basketball showing up for us in a big way. Golf is teeing off. It's happening. Tennis has been awesome. They've been running state fair shit.

2:32:18Pat McAfee:That's been really cool to watch. But football is football. And we love it. Always. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. Hey, sports fans. The ESPN app has all of ESPN all in one place. The ESPN app is your home to thousands of live events, ESPN shows, and originals across every ESPN network in service. And now you can check if you already have ESPN Unlimited as part of your TV package for no additional cost. Visit activate.espn.com to learn how to access your account or sign up, then start streaming in the ESPN app. It's all of ESPN, all in one place. Sign up or activate now.

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