PMS 2.0 1497 - Logan Paul, Ravens Head Coach Jesse Minter, Trinity Rodman, Bills Head Coach Joe Brady, & AJ Hawk

18:04Pat McAfee:One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tony's here. We'll dive into the gambling numbers of the Super Bowl for the next 11 days. A lot of convo about one game. But there should be more convo about something happening Saturday. 2 p.m. Eastern. In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The WWE Royal Rumble. Now, this is on the ESPN... Unlimited? On the app. The ESPN app. Oh, okay. Okay, it is going to be huge. It's going to be historic. It's going to be awesome. Every Royal Rumble is incredible because there's surprises, there's nostalgia, and there's a ticket punched to the main event of WrestleMania. There's a transformation, a changing in totality of somebody's career coming on Saturday.

18:47Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the man that that could happen to, a mogul megastar, Logan Paul. Yeah, Logan! He's saying we're on. Yeah, we're on. We're on. He's saying we're on. We're on. oh man pat i wasn't ready for this what do you mean you weren't ready what do you mean where are you okay i'm coming in i'm coming in remote from saudi yeah i see that are you already are you okay what happened are you sleeping is everything all right brother no i'm locked i'm locked in brother i'm oh i'm not taking my shirt off yeah you look really good i'm not taking my shirt off actually i was thinking about doing it but then i'm looking at what you got going on here i think i'm gonna keep my shit on here okay so we're full-time professional wrestling i know you signed a brand new deal are you training seven what are we doing are you eating the weights bodybuilding hey you look unbelievable logan what's going on what do we wait protein baby that's my secret 32 grams of ultra filter 32 grams of protein yeah breathe dude breathe you're gonna be all right you're gonna breathe okay okay you're good uh i'm just i'm mad dude the truth is and this is me being humble with you i'm so locked in right now in my life i got a wife i got a beautiful daughter i'm sober i'm crushing it and and and i'm just so good at what i do and i want to keep being humble but it's just so hard yeah i understand i understand when you're crushing everything and by the way congratulations on that with your life happy to hear that happy to hear that you're having happiness obviously we've lived uh in a life that we have known you for a long time and seen your entire life come together here your brother jake i got a chance to chat with him at the national championship he was recovering well from the fight he's fully focused on boxing you're fully focused on wrestling did you guys expect that this is what it was going to be when you're making content did you expect to be a full-time professional athlete at this stage of life hell no hell no pat this is crazy yeah i'm a i'm a legitimate professional athlete now which is just insane to say but life is about the art of the pivot you know doing what you're good at doing what you love and finding that pocket and then just running it okay what it was uh wwe hey you look good dude you look good good tan don't make that noise again bro well it's just ridiculous that every time you saw yourself you couldn't help but be like hold on let me get a little look see at these things real again let me go ahead and look at this that was a hilarious move by you that was hilarious i really respected it uh i would be great you do look phenomenal brother you said you're fully locked in what does that mean are we training wrestling every day how do you kind of work it into all your other business ventures i'm training every day i'm going back to back to back on meetings i'm absolutely optimizing and maximizing my life everywhere we go i'm stacking in the opportunities because look look being a wwe superstar gives you the opportunity to amplify what you want to build both inside and outside of the WWE so when we go somewhere when we travel man I'm doing business meetings I'm training I'm bonding with the vision and Paul Heyman I'm learning I'm just like man I just I can't believe how locked in I am okay did you expect uh when you started this thing to be as good as you are and you talk about being with Paul Heyman in the vision how have you developed you think in this last chapter here that has been currently happening with the vision with Austin Theory I believe bronson reed obviously braun breaker yeah tell me about like this chapter here with the vision and what it's done for you yeah did i expect to be this good of course look at me i'm built like a trojan horse i feel like a greek god i wrestled my whole life but what i didn't expect was i guess how quickly i would rise to the top see i'm a sponge i'm not as dumb as i look in fact quite the opposite.

22:42I'm running around with an IQ of 139 in my brain here. And so I'm really a student of the game. Being with Paul Heyman and some of the other guys in the vision, I just ask questions and I'm not afraid to say what I know and what I don't know. And there's a lot of gaps I can still fill in. There's a lot of room for me to still sharpen these blades. And that's what I tend to do the next couple years and make my way to become WWE champion.

23:11Pat McAfee:And obviously that can happen this weekend. On that note, you talk about being a sponge. Walking around at 139 IQ, you're so humble, too. Thank you for telling us about that. Connor has a question for you.

23:21Joe Brady:Yeah, Mav, you are working with Hall of Famer Paul Heyman. What has he kind of taught you as far as going on to win the Rumble and what strategies has he kind of given you? He said nothing in this business is sacred. Nothing. If you are not a part of the vision, if you're not Austin Theory, Bronson Reed, Brombreaker, or Paul Heyman, I genuinely don't care about you. If you are not a part of the unit, that means you're outside of the unit. You are not my concern. And if you do become my concern, that means I'm going to kick your ass. And as far as I'm concerned, 30 guys in the Royal Rumble, I'm one of them.

24:05Let's do quick math. there's 26 guys who are going to get their ass kicked by me and the vision yeah but then what

24:13Pat McAfee:happens how much longer is this interview bro probably two three more minutes what happens if it's just you guys at the end though sounds like you guys are all locked in with each other because you talked about kicking uh kicking 26 asses with the vision we're gonna kick 26 asses bron bryker's gonna hey bronce rey he's coming down in that entire thing austin theory's doing a little roll through, bang, boom, how's it doing? He's jacked too. And then all of a sudden what happens? Oh, it's just the vision. And Paul Heyman gets up on that. What happens then? It's a fair question. I'm going to answer this seriously.

24:49We have had this dialogue internally. The way we see it, all four members of the vision are future WrestleMania main eventers. We are so good as a unit and individually. it will be inevitable. Inevitable at some point, we're going to have to wrestle each other because there's no one else. There's no one else. It's just us. And so when that time comes, we're going to worry about it. But until then, we're functioning as a well-oiled machine.

25:18Pat McAfee:I'm excited to hear that you guys have had conversations about it. That's the vision's vision. And that's what it's all about, living in the future. And on that note, we have a question about those 26 asses you're going to kick. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Logan, obviously the goal is just to win the Rumble. But is there one person that you're kind of thinking in the back of your head, you know what? Fuck this guy. I would love to eliminate this guy. Okay, good. So that's it. He's the one guy you'd love to eliminate just to kind of stick that knife in his gut and twist it a little bit deeper. Did it once before.

25:50Did I not? Yeah, you did. I think I did, right? It's almost so insignificant to me, I barely remember it. But I think I did. I think I've done it before. History repeats itself. Let's do it again. See you in the funk. Hey.

26:04Pat McAfee:Did you think about Brock Lesnar's in this thing now? Have you guys thought about maybe how you deal with that? How you deal with the whole Brock Lesnar thing? That's a concern. Yeah. Yeah. I like where your head's at. You guys will figure it out, though. You guys will certainly figure it out. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Pat, you're him. And I don't care what they say about you being a punter at all. You're great. You said the thing about the punter. I did a backflip. Okay, so we did a match. He's gone. Is he gone? He's gone. Yeah, he's gone. He left. He's gone. After I did him, I think it was maybe Austin Theory.

26:41Pat McAfee:I don't know if he was there as well. It was one of these.

26:44Joe Brady:Yeah, at Cowboy Stadium because you guys walked in at the same time, right?

26:47Pat McAfee:Okay, yeah. So after the match, he comes up to me and goes, bro, I just want to come up and say, you are way more athletic than I thought you were going to be. And I was like, thanks, man. But, you know, yeah, I did a little sports. And somebody was like, he was in the NFL. He goes, yeah, but you know what I'm saying. Logan said, you know what I'm saying? I didn't really. Do you understand? This is no disrespect. Like, Logan went into, like, a hilarious bit, and I'm like, I appreciate you doing that. What he's able to do, though, him wrestling his whole life is, like, an easy, and then him being a character, you know, his whole life.

27:18Pat McAfee:It's almost like he was born to be a WWE superstar, and it has certainly worked out. Is he eating the weights? I mean, he looks unbelievable right now. Well, it's the same deal, though. Like, yeah, he's wrestled his whole life, but you don't watch what he does in the ring and think, oh, yeah, this was a guy who wrestled in high school. He is doing wildly acrobatic, crazy athletic shit, and that's not the first thing I think of. It's like, oh, yeah, he won a state championship wrestling in high school. Yeah, but the shit he does is crazy in the ring. Yeah, he's also a super genius. I mean, the drone throw and catch, the amount of business stuff.

27:57Pat McAfee:I mean, he had to prime bottles literally outside the thing. He's, he is, yeah, right there. He's already wearing a wire. I mean, that's all the time probably for him in his life. Congrats to him and good luck to him at the Royal Rumble. And I do appreciate the fact that he did say, you know, Brock is a problem because that does kind of change things. I think for the entire landscape, speaking of changing the entire landscape, the AFC North looks vastly different right now. Cleveland Browns, new head coach, not their DC. People aren't happy. A lot of people aren't out. Pittsburgh Steelers got a new head coach.

28:28Pat McAfee:failure he couldn't even get a first word out no for being so thankful go back home in the new look afc north continued in baltimore as an mvp quarterback a defense in a roster littered with dogs found themselves without a head coach for the first time in like 18 years ladies and gentlemen the man who was selected to guide the baltimore ravens through the next chapter of the Baltimore Ravens' existence by Steve Bishotti, who we have come to learn is the greatest talking owner in all of sports. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Ravens, Jesse Minter. Yeah, coach! How you doing, coach? Doing great, man.

29:08Appreciate you guys having me on.

29:09Pat McAfee:Thank you so much for joining us. We are very, very grateful. And obviously, we got a chance to meet you in the building whenever we were walking around the boat. And as we chatted with you, the easy follow-up once you left us was, oh that guy's gonna be a head coach that guy's gonna be a head coach that guy's gonna be a head coach and here we are you are now head coach of the Baltimore Ravens what has it been like after you get named that officially because obviously you traveled around a bit you've had success in multiple different places now you're guiding a franchise what has it been like here for the first few hours as a head coach in the NFL congratulations yeah thank you again thank you thank you guys it was great to meet you all last year and um it's just been it's a it's a process now you know you get the job and first thing that you start thinking of is trying to build a relationship with the players I think that's the most important piece in this whole thing and then you start talking about a staff and so working tirelessly right now to put a staff together that'll be great for these guys that these players deserve and right now those are the two main focuses at this time okay so tell me about Lamar Jackson as your quarterback this is obviously whenever we talked about the coaching vacancy in the coaching cycles there was an MVP available with no head coach up there in Buffalo.

30:22Pat McAfee:There was an MVP in Baltimore. It felt like it was the first time, long time, first time forever. Whenever Lamar Jackson's a quarterback of a team, what does that mean for you as the head coach, a defensive guy? And what was the conversation around Lamar Jackson and the stars of this team currently during the hiring process? Yeah, first of all, you know, being the head coach of the team that has the best player in the National Football League is pretty exciting. Like you said, these jobs with this caliber of quarterback don't often turn over. And so when it came open, you know, the respect and love I have for Lamar and having been here before, having seen him come up as he was drafted here, what he did in his first few years, having had defended him last year in 2024 in Los Angeles, just, man, grateful, excited, stoked to have the best player in the league as our quarterback.

31:15And I think what that says is your window is always open. You got the best player in the world behind center. You got a group of guys on offense that have elite talent and elite playmaking skills. And I look forward to building an offense and building a team around Lamar Jackson.

31:30Pat McAfee:Okay, so Greg Roman and Lamar won an MVP. Todd Munkin and Lamar won an MVP. Felt like it was a little different styles. On that note, you said you're still piecing together a staff, but an obvious question from Tone, a diehard Pittsburgh Steeler fan. by the way. Yeah. Don't hold that against me. Not yet. We haven't played each other yet, but coach, do you want to break news here and tell us who your OC is going to be? Just kidding. I know you're not going to do that, but is there like, is there a style? Like, cause a lot of defensive head coaches, you know, they talk about how they want to run the ball and, you know, protect the defense, stuff like that.

32:04Is there, do you care what style comes in and who are you, what are you, what are you looking for in your offense coordinator? Yeah, that's a great question. I respect that. I have tons of respect for the Raven Steelers rivalry. so I won't hold that against you. I think I'm looking for a connector and an innovator and a scheme builder around the best player in the world. And so very, very creative, built on the things that have made this organization always successful. And I think that's playing great defense, having the ability to control the game with running the football, but ultimately building an offense around Lamar's skill set, what he does best, making plays easy for him at times and making plays at times where he has the ability for his instincts to take over.

32:46So a very well-rounded, well-constructed offense that's very creative, innovative, always forward-thinking, always trying to find ways to improve. And I know we'll find that and look forward to Lamar leading that charge.

32:58Pat McAfee:I can't wait for you guys to hire Dan Orlovsky. Yeah, smart. Good hire. All right, all right, all right. Everybody, Dan, I didn't deserve that. If you do hire Dan, we will certainly support. If you don't, we certainly understand as well. But let's talk a little bit about the defenses that you have manned. Everybody that has played defensive football is impressed by your defenses. And Hembo sent us over a stat earlier today about Derwin James' career, where he was at before you got there, and then what you were able to do with him. And then obviously we look at their Ravens defense. We see a superstar over there as well.

33:27Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Con, man.

33:28Joe Brady:Yeah, Coach, the jersey's hanging behind you. I love your strategy. Just go to a defense that has an all-pro safety, and let's move them everywhere. And that's basically what you can do with Kyle Hamilton. What was the draw, you know, with that defense? Kyle, Roquan Smith, two pillar players. It feels like in this league for a long time, both all pros, both pro bowlers. But what do you envision kind of the strategy with them? And are you just going to basically show Derwin James tape to Kyle Hamilton and just say, hey, do this? Well, ironically, a couple of years ago when I was getting to the Chargers, I had looked at a lot of the stuff that Kyle had done here in 2023.

34:04So showed Derwin some Kyle film. Now show Kyle some Derwin film. Two great players in their own right, you know, unique in their own style. But I just felt like this is an organization that expects to play great defense, expects to have the most dominant defense in the NFL. And I think any quarterback's best friend is having the best defense in the league. And so there's great pieces here. There's a bunch of great players, Kyle included, Roquan, all the guys. And I feel like, you know, there's excellent pieces here for us to be able to work towards being the best defense in the NFL.

34:39Pat McAfee:I mean, you talk about defense, being able to run the ball. I mean, AFC North football, you also have to think about that, right? You understand because you've obviously been with Baltimore. But AFC North, you got games obviously outside Baltimore, miserable. Pittsburgh, miserable. Cleveland, miserable. Cincinnati, miserable. You have to have great defense, don't you? That's like AFC North football is you have to have an incredible defense, which is why I think Pittsburgh people thought defensive coordinator maybe for the head coach. I think people understood why they go defense with the Ravens because that's kind of AFC North football.

35:09Pat McAfee:Are you excited to get back in the kitchen of the AFC North? It looks brand new over there right now. Feels like it's going to have similar football, though. I'm so excited. And I think the division is where it all starts. You've got to own your division. You've got to study those teams. You've got to find a way to win those games. It's six games a year. I think we were able to do that the last place I was at. And I take great pride now of being the only defensive-minded head coach in the AFC North. And I look forward to the challenges that those other three guys present. Last question here for you, Coach.

35:37Pat McAfee:We appreciate you. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach. Coach, I know in 2021, you kind of took a bit of a separation. We're at Vanderbilt. But from 2017 to 2025, you were coaching under a hardball, whether it was John or Jim. Have you thought about, man, it's actually going to be kind of weird not being around either one of those guys? And what do you think the biggest thing you'll take away from the hardball coaching tree will be going forward? Yeah, that's a great question. I certainly have so much love and respect for both of them. Jim the last four years being at Michigan winning a championship together getting the Chargers up and running to where they're at now feel great about kind of how we left that place and then the four years here with John and I think they're both different uh Jim is as you guys know man so positive so fun creates a great environment for the players I learned a ton here from John about empowering people in the organization empowering the players empowering the coaches to be creative and forward thinking.

36:35That was, I felt, a big part of my development was his vision for me as a coach. And so look forward to taking everything from both of those guys, but ultimately being myself and figuring out what works best for me. But certainly have loved my time with those guys, love and appreciate them, and look forward to going against them now.

36:53Pat McAfee:What was Bashadi like in the conversations? We don't know this guy much. We just saw a press conference when he was talking about the hiring process. He might be the greatest. We need him on a microphone more. I don't know if that was part of your discussions, negotiations with him if you won that over to get him on a microphone more. But what is he like in person, and what is the expectation? It feels like he's pretty hands-off. You guys do the football. I'm the owner. Let me know what you need. I think he's the best owner in sports. And I say that because, you know, he gives you everything that you need.

37:21There's no stone unturned for resources in this organization. He hires people to do their job, expects you to do it at a high level. And, you know, he's only hired – in his time, he's only hired the one coach. And so I look forward to having a long, long partnership with him and Eric DaCosta, our general manager. And, man, there's nobody I'd rather be working for than Steve Bishotti. How old are you? 42. Oh, man.

37:45Pat McAfee:Young gun. He'll be there until at least 60. Yeah, at least. I mean, look, he looks like he's taking care of you. Yeah, you're pretty fit. Are you a Peloton guy? What do you do? Peloton all the way. Peloton. Okay, in the office, you're on the Peloton? I do it at home, but I might have to bring one in the office here. Smart. I like that. You just even having it there makes you think, oh, this guy's working out and watching film doing the entire thing. We're getting up on that. We're going pretty hard. It feels like you are in great shape. You feel very confident about your Peloton scoring, your ranking?

38:16It's solid. It's middle of the road to the upper half maybe. Instructor of choice? Yeah, that's a good question. uh i mean i go more for during the season i'm only on like the 20 minute kicks in the morning so it's more about the time length yeah and so i i uh enjoy kind of the mix of all the different

38:36Pat McAfee:instructors i like that hey we only got 20 minutes here okay but i need to kick my ass okay that's what i need to do here uh hey i hope you get a good time or have a good time not only meeting obviously the locker room jimmy's famous it's great to be back at baltimore you'd be able to eat some of their crabs butter and stavi i think you get a good relationship with them They are incredible fans of the Ravens. And then watching you build that place after taking the baton from a man who is obviously held in such high regards around there is going to be fun to watch. Good luck, brother. You've earned it all.

39:05Appreciate that. Thank you guys for having me on.

39:07Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, it's Coach Minter. Yay, Coach!

39:13Walking into somebody else's house, basically. Yeah.

39:18Pat McAfee:You know, that's like a college football thing, more so than an NFL thing.

39:21Joe Brady:That's how you lived at.

39:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, and you were in that house. Yeah, you had a room in that house. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the castle, I'm sorry. Yeah, sure. Within the castle that they have over there in Baltimore. So, like, he knows how everybody there feels about Harbaugh. You know, that's like Harbaugh's house, basically. He's running that place. Seriously. And then he has to walk in there, and now it's, hey, this is his opening statement where he's like, it's going to be we, and this is already the best franchise. I'm trying to take it to the next because you can't really, you know, because you can't really step on anybody because they have been run pretty well, it feels like.

39:51Pat McAfee:but haven't gotten to where you want to go. So how do you frame the messaging that it's like, this is such an abnormal head coaching change because it's not that you're ass, but certainly not where we need to be. That's like an interesting balance, I think, up there.

40:05Joe Brady:Yeah, that's why you kind of have to bring in a guy that knows the culture because it's not a situation where you have to flip it, you know, 180. It's not a place where it's like, hey, this is terrible. I'm going to completely change the culture around here. And kind of like Ben Johnson, like Ben Johnson had to go in there and completely flip the Bears. Like, hey, we're not a losing organization. We can do this with the guys in here. Whereas Minter, like he's going in there knowing the Baltimore Ravens are one of those franchises, kind of similar to Pittsburgh. Like they're a winning franchise with a good culture.

40:33Joe Brady:You don't have to change, you know, reinvent the wheel, if you will, but you still have to change what they've been doing the past few years. Like if you don't hire a guy who knows that culture already, you kind of are kind of behind the eight ball, if you will.

40:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how it works over there. You know, you got Lamar. Lamar's always going to be good. Lamar can spin it, too. Like, even if Lamar's not running. Because I don't know if Lamar can still – I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to doubt Lamar. I will not doubt Lamar Jackson. Lamar used to be by far the fastest person on every field he was on. This year, did we see as much as that? After his hammy, no. I was going to say, it feels like he was hurt all year. All year. Linger. Yeah, exactly. And they kind of just – it got to that point where it was like, hey, listen, the Ravens kind of need to win out.

41:16So it was like even if he was hurt. but also the other thing with Minter that you know it's kind of I'd say beneficial to him that Harbaugh went and got another job right away because he did take a bunch of people with him and a bunch of support staff so like he doesn't necessarily have the the holdovers who are like well this isn't how coach Harbaugh did it you know he can kind of bring in his pieces and still retain some of that stuff from the Harbaugh era but also kind of mold it into like the image that he wants and he's not going to have that constant strife of like well we've been pretty successful That's not how we do things.

41:49Pat McAfee:I agree. Constant Strafe you bring up? Mm-hmm. What's going on in Cleveland, Miles Garrett? Is everything all right?

41:55Joe Brady:Well, this guy. No thanks. Is it January or February? Boo-hoo, Garrett. Hold on. You mean Mr. Pout-Pout? Yeah. Hold on.

42:05Pat McAfee:This guy would snap you in half with one hand and you in half with the other hand.

42:09Joe Brady:And I still wouldn't post an IG story like that crying.

42:12Pat McAfee:Okay, well, maybe he just wants to let people know that he's also going through it over here. Okay, now I didn't even think of it in real time because I don't think enough about the Cleveland Browns in my day-to-day life. I apologize for that. I need to do better. You do. For the dog pound because I appreciate the Cleveland people. Okay, I do appreciate the Cleveland people. Miz has kind of introduced me to a genre of Browns fans that believe they're going to actually win a Super Bowl and actually have their lives depend upon it at this stage. So I feel bad for the Cleveland Browns fans. I do not think.

42:42Pat McAfee:I didn't even think because the Schwartz thing was interesting. The defense coordinator, Schwartz, historic defense at home even more so. Myles Garrett obviously gets a sack record. That's already in Canton in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Bill Belichick not, but this is certainly – Myles Garrett's uniform is in Canton because it's a historic sack. But also at home, they didn't give up like a first down for like five weeks straight or something. I forget what the stat was. He has led a legendary defense over there in Cleveland, and obviously none of it really matters because they don't win enough games to be relevant.

43:15Pat McAfee:it so it's just kind of out in a lost wasteland so whenever they're doing the hiring of the head coach process and there was like a quiz that had to be taken or some homework and then there was also a qualifier that was like Schwartz has to stay so it sounds like everybody in the building was like Schwartz is really good DC this is we don't want to change anything over here we just want to change the head coach and the offensive coordinator so then whenever we hear they hire Todd Munkin I just go okay so they got Todd Munkin on the offensive side Schwartz on the defensive aside? Feels like those two know the AFC North pretty good.

43:46Pat McAfee:That might be a good combo for Cleveland. So my immediate response is like that's not a bad thing. And then immediately comes out, Schwartz is out. Schwartz is leaving. And then I see the entire place go, if we're going to hire an old coach, why would we not just hire the guy who's already in the building, who has relationships with all the players, who is leading a historic defense, and understands what the entire, yeah, has been a head coach and fought other head coaches, which we like, by the way, if he's going to do that. Why wouldn't we just hire this old guy if we're going to hire an old guy?

44:17Pat McAfee:None of it makes sense. And I didn't even think of that reaction, especially if I would have known how hard I think Schwartz wanted the job. Feels like Schwartz really wanted that job. He wanted another crack at the apple. He had been a head coach before. It didn't work out perfectly. So now he's in a place that he knows has an incredible defense, which he can be about. And if he can hit or strike on the offensive side somehow, they can have a good team, especially with a lot of turnover in the AFC North right now. there's really opportunity for the Cleveland Browns. So I didn't know he was pushing as hard for that coach.

44:45Pat McAfee:I thought it was he was sticking around on the defensive side. So then whenever it comes out like he wanted it, now he's out. He immediately becomes an incredibly hot commodity everywhere. And the Cleveland Browns people are now like, why did we piss off the guy who was like maybe the best thing we had? And then Miles Garrett's on the internet saying, I'm on your guys' side. I don't know why we picked this. Our old white guy. We had the old white guy. I don't know what we're doing on the other side of the ball. And this follows a trend now, a two-year trend. So I don't know. I guess it's just back-to-back.

45:11Pat McAfee:It's not annual because annual would be a long time. Trend would be two, like three or four, I think. Yeah, beginning of an annual, you could say. Yeah, we're at the beginning stages, potentially, until there is a resolution, which is either a Super Bowl for Cleveland, right? Because that was kind of his messaging is that he wanted to win. He didn't want to just go to the Hall of Fame. He wanted to win a Super Bowl. Then they paid him$40 million a year, and he said, all right, they told me we could win here. I'm doing it. We could win here. We could win here. So then he is coming out and saying basically he was lied to.

45:37Pat McAfee:Like, hey, you were told we were going to be able to win. That's why I took the deal for$40 million, reset the entire market. I come back. Here we are again. They stink. They're not good. They fire their coach. He is obviously campaigning pretty good for Schwartz. He's obviously the best player in Cleveland and has been for a very long time. So although he's not a quarterback, he was certainly campaigning for one of the head coaching candidates. His guy doesn't get the job. Another guy, similar ilk, just other side of the field, gets the job. So I think he's warranted to potentially be a little bit upset.

46:08Pat McAfee:but I think a lot of people were saying, hey, when you took the check to stay in Cleveland, you signed up for all the shit that Cleveland's going to bring. And this is something that Cleveland's going to bring. Allegedly, Haslam, the owner, went against the consultants and against his staff and said, I hear what you're saying. Give me a monkey. So who knows if that is just a leak from the building to save face with Schwartz, which could certainly be the case because he probably has friends in that building that were saying like, hey, we're on your side. Then they go the other way. They would like it to be known like, hey, for Jim, we want him to know that we're on his side.

46:40Pat McAfee:And Haslam, the owner, went the other way. So now this is multiple decisions we've been told that Haslam has decided to go against where everybody else is saying and make decisions that could be to the detriment of his business and his team. But, hey, that's Cleveland football, I think, is what everybody says. And Miles signed up for it, Tony. Is that how we need to be viewing this? Yes. As far as Miles goes, he did the letter last year. It was all we talked about for the majority of Super Bowl week. And then he signed the deal. So it's like, hey, you've been there for how long? You know how this works with Cleveland.

47:13And then the best part, I'm not sure if you saw the report from Jocena. I saw it, yeah. They might have two head coaches. First time ever, okay? Hey, OC, DC, co-head coaches. You know what? Why not? I think it's a great idea. I think they should definitely do that. I feel like that would be a great idea.

47:35Pat McAfee:Okay. I was a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and I think what you were hearing is people are trying to come up with resolutions for the situation. I don't know if anybody would ever do that, because if you've got two coaches, I think you have no coaches, just like the quarterback situation, which they don't have. But there has been teams whose offense and defense is very much two different operating systems. Chicago Bears, I think, is the most noted one, right? Buddy Ryan and Dick just didn't get along. Hated each other. Yeah, and the two sides, and they went on to do special things together. And I'm not saying these two would hate each other, but I think Schwartz potentially would not necessarily like being second fill.

48:13Pat McAfee:I'm second head coach. I'm a co-head. I don't know how that goes, but hey, there's 32 jobs or 64. Good call. If you get co-head coaches. The other thing would potentially be if they do this, Cardinals can't have a head coach this year because there can only be 32 head coaches in the NFL. Browns get two of them. Cardinals can't have one. That'd be crazy if the Browns were the team that did that to the Cardinals. The Cardinals would have to really look themselves in the eye. Yeah, they would. And that's like whenever your UConn coach goes to, like, North Texas, North Colorado. Colorado State. Colorado State.

48:48There it is.

48:49Pat McAfee:That's tough for UConn. That is very tough for UConn. But obviously not everybody understands what's going on out there at Colorado State, Coach. We apologize for that potential slight. But that's not a normal transact. Go ahead.

49:00Joe Brady:Well, just with this whole entire thing with Myles Garrett, I'm not so sure he didn't schedule this IG post and tweet last year. I'm not sure if at the Super Bowl he was like, you know what? Now that I'm here and doing all this, I know I'm going to get my money. I know I'm still going to be a Cleveland Brown. I'm going to schedule this for 2026 so that inevitably when this happens again, I'll still be right in the pocket.

49:25Pat McAfee:Tennessee Titans have$101 million in free agency with Salah and Dayball. Are they potentially going to try to trade for an upset, miserable Myles Garrett out of Cleveland? Interesting. Is Myles Garrett going to work his way out of Cleveland because he's not happy with current head coaching hire? Because even though he campaigned for one of the candidates, another candidate got the job. Does Myles Garrett feel disrespected in Cleveland? Does Myles Garrett potentially want out of Cleveland? How could they? They carried him off the field to end the season. I think it's Jake. That'd be a great way to go.

50:03They won their Super Bowl.

50:05Joe Brady:His dead cap's got to be. It's got to be a hundred. Yeah, I'm looking it up right now. A hundred million. Is there any chance that the NFL steps in and says, you know what, Jimmy? Sell the team. We're going to take this from you. Because you're not even trying to win. You act like you know what you're doing. You clearly don't. What if this is a good hire? There's a chance. They got a Pro Bowl quarterback. They do have a Pro Bowl quarterback. And that would be his response. Oh, I don't know. Do Pro Bowl quarterbacks grow on trees? I drafted that guy. But, like, if you're Andrew Barry, like, how do you go into work the day afterwards?

50:38Like, I've spent four months trying to tell you what we need to do here, and you're listening and just kind of giving me the runaround, and then on the very last day, be like, I hear you. I hear you. I appreciate you doing all the legwork. Shut up. You're wrong. We're going to do what I want to do. I'm going to get this guy. You remember that quarterback contract we gave out?

50:55Pat McAfee:Yeah. Remember? I'm not so sure that wasn't your idea. Okay. You're the one who told me to do that, right? It's my gift. Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no. I made an offer. They said no good. They actually eliminated us from it. And then remember, you came in and said$230 million fully guaranteed. And I said, we cannot do that. That'll not be good for a team. And you said,$230 million guaranteed. Feels like you do that to me a lot, what Andrew Barry potentially says.

51:22Joe Brady:And maybe that's why Stefanski leaves the Browns organization. Tried to. Was actively coaching to get fired. I think anybody, if you were to cut on the tape, which we all have, if you were to look at that Brown season, you could make the argument that Stefanski was trying to get fired. Okay. And that's why they drafted two quarterbacks. That's where it all started. Stefanski was like, I'm going to draft two rookie quarterbacks. What's worse than one rookie quarterback? Two of them, and we're going to have Flacco, and we're going to trade Flacco in the division, and then we're going to have our first rookie quarterback go.

51:59Joe Brady:He's going to get hurt, and we're going to say, no, you're not playing anymore. We're going to start our other rookie quarterback. Everyone's going to hate him. With no practice. They didn't even let him practice. Yeah, which was ridiculous, but everyone's going to hate it. And then, lo and behold, I am now the head coach of the offense that has B. John Robinson, Drake London, and possibly Kyle Pitts. So, yeah, it worked out for Stefanski pretty damn well.

52:19Pat McAfee:It was crazy he got hired that fast. I mean, honestly, Matt Ryan did the hiring, so I respect Matt Ryan's opinion. He'll be joining us next week at Super Bowl Radio Row. I believe on Thursday, Matt Ryan will be joining us next Thursday. Can't wait to catch up with him. How he got to Stefanski, because I don't know Stefanski that well. I just didn't expect him to be bell a ball, basically, as soon as he leaves Cleveland like he was. I assumed he would have to go back offensive coordinate somewhere, be an OC, take a year like that and all that. And then instead, I see him walking out of the dog pound right into the bird's nest down there for the Falcons.

52:52Pat McAfee:It was like day of almost. It's like, wow, he landed on his feet pretty good. Yeah, I think that kind of proves and shows you what the NFL thinks of the Cleveland Browns and that organization. And a lot of Browns fans I saw yesterday think that because Jimmy Haslam was a minority owner for the Pittsburgh Steelers, that he's actually a sleeper agent owner for the Browns. And he's actively trying to ruin them. Okay. See, the Browns fans don't deserve any of this. Yeah. The Browns fans don't deserve anything. Let's talk a little bit about what's going on around sport. Penn State has turned Beaver Stadium into a hockey rink.

53:26Joe Brady:Yeah. Okay.

53:26Pat McAfee:This looks awesome. And anytime hockey does things outside of the arena, we appreciate. We love the stadium series. I believe that continues this Sunday down in Tampa Bay. Shout out to the NHL for being innovative and changing and maybe marketing the game a little bit differently to different people. You know, because not everybody grows up near a pond where pond hockey is happening outside. It's nice to get the backdrop. It's nice to see the elements on the ice with hockey. And Penn State will be playing Michigan State on... Peacock. at 1 o 'clock on Saturday. Okay, there we go. Perfect. Nailed it.

54:02Pat McAfee:Absolutely nailed it. 1 o 'clock on Peacock on Saturday. They'll be live in – there's going to be 100 ,000 people at this? No way. The projection I saw was somewhere between 60 ,000 and 70 ,000.

54:15Joe Brady:I mean, this is – but you could see how right before the game starts, it's like, hey, why don't we go? It's number two Michigan State in the country versus number five Penn State in the country. That would warrant at least some people traveling now.

54:29Pat McAfee:I heard Michigan's kind of running college hockey right now. Yeah, I'll tell you what. We have Michigan Wolverines, number one team in the country. Michigan State Spartans, number two team in the country. And the Western Michigan Broncos, number three team in the country. They won the whole thing last year. Oh, we had that guy. Western Michigan did something.

54:44Joe Brady:What did Western Michigan do? They built a$500 million facility. Yep, hockey. Hockey facility. Also, their defense coordinator just got hired in the NFL, Western Michigan.

54:56Pat McAfee:Chris O 'Leary. Yeah, that's right. I forgot. Western Michigan's defensive coordinator is now the defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Chargers. Yes. That came across the newswire there and kind of shocked me a little bit. Western Michigan pipeline to the NFL from a D.C. standpoint. I guess he's got some great stats tone. Yeah, so two years ago he was with the Chargers, and then last year he went to Western Michigan to be the D.C. Two years ago, Western Michigan, when he was not the D.C., He was 107th in defense. And then when he became D.C., it went all the way from 107th to 9th last year.

55:32Pat McAfee:Wow. That's crazy. And Ty, week four, they were playing against that guy who's so good at football. Yeah, it may have been Central Michigan. It may have been the Chippewas. I can't remember. Dan LeFevre is the head coach. I don't know if he has this. I think it was Dan LeFevre was the quarterback. Could have been. He could spin it up there. He's an all-time great. But that's the thing. is you go through the trials and tribulations of that Western Michigan schedule, that prepares you for being in arguably the toughest division in the NFL.

56:02Joe Brady:Parker Navarro, I mean, we saw it. He shut his eyes down, brother.

56:06Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, Ohio, you got a good football team over there. Hey, so is Western Michigan. They got the Los Angeles Chargers defensive coordinator who was coordinating against that schedule last year. That dominated. Good luck to those college offensive coordinators. You got the Chargers DC on the other sideline. Why didn't you go coach high school? Good question. I mean, could you imagine this? Phil Rivers almost did. Yeah, Connor Stallion did that, and his high school team wasn't very good. I thought he was going to get a head coaching job. Me too. They didn't get his guys in there. That's why.

56:35Pat McAfee:Belichick's still not in the Hall of Fame. Today, still? Yeah. Jocena reporting about maybe co-head coaches. That would kind of change some things. If they were to go back and re-vote and put somebody in the Hall of Fame, that would certainly change some things for the future. I think he's going to miss out. That's a shame. But there will be incredible Hall of Famers with us next Friday live from Radio Row. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change your life. We're in Super Bowl season. Let's enjoy it. We'll see you on the other side.

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58:37Pat McAfee:We've got a loaded hour here ahead and obviously football is the greatest. It's Super Bowl season and the guests have been coming in abundance. I would say later this hour we got Joe Brady, the new head coach of the Buffalo Bills. He has a press conference I believe that just wrapped up. He'll be heading into a room to talk to us up in Buffalo. Cannot wait to chat with him. I've heard immaculate vibes. This guy. I've heard the aura, the energy. the juice, if you will, is very high with him. Saw a video of him walking in, first day of the job, had shorts. Yeah. Had shorts, there was snow. I like that.

59:10Pat McAfee:I was like, oh, I know exactly. This guy, if they're saying he's a lot of energy and he's wearing shorts out there, might have simpatico here in Joe Brady. Excited to chat with him for the first time. And then in about 10 minutes or so, we'll chat with Trinity Rodman. She's the highest paid women's professional athlete of all time. And she's a United States beast. Our women's national team is in great hands. She's a captain. She's 23 years old. this past weekend was her first game being captain. It was also one day after she signed the largest women's sports contract in history. And she does this sexy Dexter Lawrence dance after she does her thing.

59:43Pat McAfee:She's 23. She's going to be around for another 10, 15 years leading and guiding the way. We're incredibly lucky and thankful we get a chance to chat with her. As Coach Emma Hayes did a little dance too. You know, the first time she said she didn't want to do no dancing. The girls have been dominant. And I'm excited to chat with her about it all. Joining us now, live from Manhattan, Ohio, is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Rada Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hey, Hawk. How you doing, Hawker?

1:00:06Joe Brady:Good. I credit to you for the coach for getting involved there in the second one. I appreciate that. I really do.

1:00:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, because I don't think she wanted to at all. Because she might be a stern coach, you know, accountability. It might be that. And then what did you say? Hazy. What's that? Coach Hazy. Coach Hazy. Okay, I thought you were saying Hazy. Like H-A-Z-1. Oh, no, no, no. No, Coach Hazy. That's what we call her. Emma Hazy. Yeah, Hazy. Coach Emma Hazy. you're not saying hazing because i said like she's kind of a hard-nosed coach no you said kind of hazing and it's like i think that used to be so not she's stern but fair i believe is how you potentially describe her so i don't know if she's much of a dancer you know on real but when trinity knocks her second goal two games she's captain she's starting she's got sexy dexie dance going crazy all over the place maybe hazy does buy it yeah and i appreciate that she did that But, Age, it is a great time for ball, and there's a lot of great hirings happening.

1:01:00Pat McAfee:We just talked to Jesse Minter. Seems like he's ready and cut out to do the gig. Joe Brady will come here in a matter of moments. Patrick Graham has been hired as a defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers alongside coach Mike McCarthy. Your thoughts on that hiring for the D.C. and Pittsburgh, and how do you kind of think what the Steelers are doing is going to work out?

1:01:19Joe Brady:Man, I sure hope what the Steelers are doing is going to work out. I think, Patrick Graham, when you hear people, I don't know him personally. I know guys that have played for him. They all love him. Like, they love his scheme and what he brings, I guess, his energy and positivity. But for Big Mike, yeah, the Steelers, obviously, Big Mike, we know his offensive background. That's what he does. He develops quarterbacks. He's a West Coast offensive guy. So, yeah, bringing in defense is gigantic for him. He knows that. He tells us all the time, like, Big Mike's the most, like, old-school trenches dude that lets you know, like, hey, you're going to win the game up front on both sides, D-line and O-line.

1:01:50Pat McAfee:Okay, so Patrick Graham, I think, has had success with not a lot of talent on his rosters. I think he has two top ten defenses in the last five years, but if you look at where he was at, there wasn't – Max Crosby, obviously, in the Raiders, but you know how the Raiders have done. I think people really like him, don't know if he's had a great situation yet, kind of. Yeah, kind of the story or narrative around him in the last few days when his name was out there to be hired was that he does more with less. And then kind of different than what Terrell Austin did who was the Steelers DC the last few years.

1:02:25It was kind of like, hey, this is what we play. This is what we're going to do. And Patrick Graham's MO apparently more is like, okay, these are the players we have. Let's go to their strengths. We don't have to play this defense in this certain – like let's go to our strengths and maybe the offense's weaknesses. And then Steelers fans were very, very, very, very happy to hear that.

1:02:46Pat McAfee:Okay, so this is good hiring Yinzer's mind. Obviously, Mike McCarthy has a lot of connections throughout his 150 years in the NFL before returning back home to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's looking at Scott Tolzien, former backup quarterback in Green Bay, as a potential offensive coordinator. Your thoughts on that age? Obviously, he knows the system. He's been around the NFL a long time.

1:03:07Joe Brady:Yeah, Scotty was actually, his locker was directly next to mine for a little while in Green Bay. And Scotty was a coach back then. You know how you play with guys that you know are going to coach? We didn't have to really talk about it that much, but we knew Scotty's brain, how he operates, how he works. He got in there, too. Scotty had to start a game, I believe. That dude can sling a little bit. He was tough as nails as well. I believe he ran for a touchdown. He led us to some exciting times in Lambeau.

1:03:32Pat McAfee:He led some Indianapolis Colts exciting times as well, brother. We brought him in on a Thursday. He played on a Sunday. I mean, Scott Tolzien, living legend in a lot of different locker rooms, I do believe, in practice facilities and practice fields, because I think he was doing a lot of that against the defenses. Backup quarterback has become a position where we all believe they know ball, they understand ball, and they understand what quarterbacks want and what quarterbacks don't want. So their names can obviously become very, very hot, especially if they have success. Scott Tolzien goes to Pittsburgh, has success one year.

1:04:06Pat McAfee:His name will be up for a head coaching job. just like Kelly Moe, obviously. That's where he was. KOC. Quarterback, Kevin O 'Connell, backup quarterback, Dan O 'Connor. Cliff Kingsbury. Why did I do that to Minter like that? Just in my head, he was rattling off all the good things of an offense. And I'm like, that's what Olovsky told us he was going to do, just all the good things. As Minter was labeling what he wanted, I'm like, I know a guy who told us all the same things. His name was Dan Olovsky a little bit ago. But he could become the next one. And I don't think McCarthy's not calling plays.

1:04:37Pat McAfee:He's saying I don't like calling plays. And he had been with Kelly Moe before. And Kelly Moe wanted to run up scoreboard. I know he wanted to do. That's what he said about him as he moved on. So Scott Tolzien going in there to be the coordinator would not be abnormal at all for McCarthy. And him and Aaron have a good relationship. Are all signs pointing to Aaron Rodgers going and continuing his hunt for seven in Pittsburgh, AJ?

1:04:58Joe Brady:I mean, if you look at it from the outside, yeah, it feels like it, right? Has he said anything publicly? Do we have any clue what he's going to do? We don't know what he said publicly. What has he said privately, AJ? I don't know. We haven't heard from him. That's what I'm saying. A lot of times in the offseason, he goes dark for a little while. I don't know where he might be right now. I really don't. You know, AJ. AJ, AJ, so what have you been told? I want him to come back. I want him to come back. Oh, nothing. Like, he doesn't know. I don't think he has his mind made up either way. You don't need a one-shot.

1:05:23Joe Brady:I mean, that's for damn sure. But, yeah, I have no information as far as the Aaron Rodgers. Does he know Coach Mike is the head coach of the Steelers? I believe he – I would assume that he knows Coach Mike is the head coach of the Steelers.

1:05:35Pat McAfee:Okay, so Tone also just said to me that there is a chance that Coach Mike will be calling plays. He has come out and said that he's going to be doing it. I thought he did in the press conference, said that he was going to call plays. I am almost positive, but I need – I was just asking a check to make sure. But this is like Scotty Tolzien, this is your coach in waiting. Okay, he's 38 years old. He's been the quarterback coach. He was with the New Orleans Saints this year. Their quarterback made leaps and bounds of a jump to maybe almost offensive rookie of the year. He's with Dak the last two years before that.

1:06:05Oh, he was pretty good. Scottie's the future head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Big Mike's going to do his five. He'll get a Super Bowl. That'll be cool. He'll be 67 years. He's going to ride off in the sunset in the greenfield. Scottie Tolzien right in, baby. There's our young coach. There's our young high. Who are your players? Who are your players, though?

1:06:19Pat McAfee:What do you mean? You've got a lot of players, I think, are like, are they playing next year? And it's not like contract related. It's like retirement related. Because they don't want to rebuild. so you've got a lot of older guys. Cam is up in the air. Aaron's up in the air. But, yeah, I mean, that's fine. What about Jalen? Just quarterbacking those. Ramsey? Is he under contract still? Yeah.

1:06:37Joe Brady:Okay, good. Good.

1:06:39Pat McAfee:You feel good about it?

1:06:40Joe Brady:I feel great about it.

1:06:41Pat McAfee:What about Ventron? Do they have to make a lot of decisions? Bubba Ventron coming back to the town to be a special teams coordinator. I mean, if he does assemble the Yinzer Avengers, if he assembles the Yinzer Avengers to be the coaching staff, Now, he let Danny Smith out the door. Now, Danny Smith, Yinzer legend. He's at Tampa Bay. I don't think Danny knew another Yinzer was getting gig. But Bubba Ventron, Charval, Yinzer, been around the league. Great special teams coordinator going in there with Mike McCarthy. And then we just start – Patrick Graham, not a Yinzer. But if every other slot was filled by Yinzer people, I think that would make a lot of sense for Mike McCarthy.

1:07:17Joe Brady:It wouldn't shock me. It does that – you know he's done that in the past over the course. There was guys that had Pittsburgh ties on the staff in Green Bay that I didn't even know. Like, multiple guys throughout all – like, he has Pittsburgh connections everywhere. So, yeah, if he feels like they're right for the job, he will not hesitate to bring them in. Van Pelt was in Green Bay. He would be a perfect guy maybe. The Steelers are all the way back.

1:07:37Pat McAfee:More Yinzer-splosion than they've ever had in the locker room, and now Mike McCarthy's doing his thing. Why not? You got it. I mean, they're littered throughout the league, and they're the best coaches on every staff. So, no, why not bring them back? That's right. Not a bad idea. Chase 7, boys, for the fam, for the home. Pittsburgh, bad D-line coach. I think he can get after. He's good with a whistle, I've heard. I've heard Pittsburgh dad can really do the whistle.

1:07:57Joe Brady:But you guys have a friend from back home, Bill Bones or something, who's good at secondary coach. He's secondary. He's got a good back pedal. No, actually, I heard. I think Aaron Donald's going to be the D-line coach and Revis is going to be the secondary coach, what I heard. Wow, that would be crazy. Yeah, Jason Taylor's going to coach at D-line as well, edge. AQ Shipley's coaching centers. AQ? He's coaching centers. No, we don't want him. He's the wrong game coordinator. What the hell?

1:08:22Pat McAfee:Jeez. All right, let's pivot away from the Pittsburgh Steelers having a bunch of hirings and potentially being all the way back to talk about somebody that's brand new to being the absolute goat. I got to meet her down in Atlanta whenever she was alongside Ben at an Atlanta Hawks game. She has since that moment, just a few weeks ago, been named a captain of the U.S. women's national team that has five gold medals, four World Cups, and going forward will win absolutely everything for the next hundred years. The most dominant team on a global scale that we have. She is the leader of it. She's 23 years old.

1:08:53Pat McAfee:She's also the highest paid professional women's sports athlete of all time. Friend of the program we hope going forward, ladies and gentlemen, Trinity Robbins.

1:09:01Joe Brady:Yay, Trinity!

1:09:04Pat McAfee:How are you, Trinity? Hey! How's everything? I'm great. Sorry about my lighting. I'm hotel living. I don't have as good of a backdrop as you guys. Yeah, we're in a studio. It's kind of messed up there. We kind of put you in this spot here. We appreciate you joining us from the hotel, though. We do appreciate that. Where are we at right now? I know you've had a couple U.S. women's national team games. obviously scoring in both of them. We got the sexy day. Hey, hey, hey. Incredible stuff out of you, especially as you're named captain for your first game. You score a goal and then you back it back up.

1:09:32Pat McAfee:Are you guys in the middle of a run right now? What is the U.S. women's team doing and what hotel kind of run are you with right now? We've been in L.A. We went to Santa Barbara for that game that you're seeing right now. But I had to drive back to L.A. for some media stuff, including this. But yeah, next week I go back with my NWSL team and we do preseason in Florida. Okay, so let's talk about that. You get three years, two million per, okay? All of our professional contracts are exposed to the public. Whenever your contract is exposed to the public and told, I think it is incredibly inspiring for the next generation of everybody.

1:10:07Pat McAfee:How do you feel being named a person that is gonna be dependent upon for the next generation of women's sports, but also the future of the NWSL as a whole, Trinity? That's a huge honor, and it's a very good thing to be bestowed upon you. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. um obviously the the pay is a plus but um it's been so fun just like developing and becoming the player that I am and really showing like my personality my goofiness my celebrations all the fun stuff um but yeah I think this is another stepping stone for women's sports and women's soccer and I hope that it continues to go on the incline and we get more and more fans more and more attention and just get better and better so people actually want to watch us you know Gotham won last year.

1:10:47Pat McAfee:Okay. From our, from our research, Gotham won last year. That's not going to happen again. Who are we? Is your team? Okay. I'm going to pick your team as my team. Okay. Your team is my team. I like. I mean, you kind of have to at this point. Okay. I'm picking your team. Washington. We're Washington. Do we have chance? Do we have anything? How do I get it? And how are we? Are we going to win this whole damn thing this year? Are we good team? We're great team. Well, yeah, I'm a back my team. We're pretty good. We made it to the past two years and lost the past two years, so I'm thinking third time's a charm.

1:11:18Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, and we got like a little chip on our shoulder underdog story, too, after not winning the finals. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Washington Spirit, here we come. Okay, and I like that they say, hey, you're the future of the entire league. We want you to do it here. I'm a Washington Spirit fan. Gotham's very good. This league's been around 11 years, I think. Yeah, 2015 maybe, 2016. We know Patrick Mahomes and the Mahomes families with the Kansas City Comet. It feels like the NWSL is growing leaps and bounds right now, for real. When does season start and when is playoffs and everything going to get really going?

1:11:54Season starts in March and our first game is at home, so that's exciting. And, I mean, you should be an owner of Washington Spirit. Join the league. Join it.

1:12:05Pat McAfee:Okay, sounds good. Trini, are you able to negotiate those things? You probably are, I assume. I'll talk to my people. I'll talk to many people. Yeah, please do. I think your people are pretty important in this entire thing. I got a daughter who's two years, seven months. She's got a sick left foot. Hey, every time you're cutting back and putting that in, it's like I'm showing her. And then I go to AI, I put her face on your face, so she thinks she did it. I'm seeing it. It's happening. Yeah, it's Queens Gambit. So what you're doing, I'm very grateful for Mackenzie, but also girls everywhere as they continue sport.

1:12:34Pat McAfee:Go ahead, AJ.

1:12:35Joe Brady:Yeah, I guess. Chris, did you know, I guess, the magnitude and how much attention it would draw when you signed this awesome contract and you get all this money? Did you have any idea of the impact? And I would imagine there's people reaching out to you that you may not have talked to or like friends all over the place. But where do you think women's soccer is going as well? This is just one small step, I think, for everybody. This is good for every player, young and old. Yeah, I mean, I obviously knew it was going to be a pretty big announcement just because it's obviously never been done before.

1:13:05And there's been just so much talk around pay and increasing that and keeping the best players in the NWSL. But, yeah, I think it's really good for the league, especially because our best players have been leaving to go overseas to get paid more. But I think if we can keep just raising the ceiling on what the NWSL can be, it's going to be even more and the skill is going to be more. and then it's going to get better and better and harder for these players to leave and ultimately get more players to come over here from overseas, which I think is great. But, yeah, the phone's been pretty busy. People I haven't talked to in a while, and that's just natural.

1:13:47I think you start succeeding and everybody's in your phone. So you just got to stay in your bubble and in your circle, and that's kind of what I've been doing.

1:13:55Pat McAfee:Well, thanks for letting us in because we certainly came calling. I'm like not to call anybody out. No, yeah, we're certainly a part of it. But we are thankful that you're allowing us to kind of spotlight it because we have a professional women's volleyball team here in Indianapolis in Fisher's area. They fill up their arena. It feels like women's sports really having an active movement right now, at least in the United States of America. And signing that contract is such like a good staple of like, yeah, this shit's going. And you, once again, the honor of it happening for you, feels like you're the perfect person for it.

1:14:29Pat McAfee:And Washington and the NWSL aren't the only people saying that. Go ahead, Con, man.

1:14:33Joe Brady:Yeah, Trinity, with the national team, both men's and women's, it's such a massive honor to be the captain. That becomes kind of the face of those teams, especially with the Olympics and the World Cup. What was it like putting on the captain's armband? Can you kind of feel the moment and how important it is, especially with the captains before you as well? I mean, yeah, for sure. I think even now this is going to be my sixth year in the league, which is crazy because I'm still only 23. So it's like a weird thing of like, I'm kind of a veteran in a sense, but at the same time, I'm still so young and I'm like trying to like follow the footsteps of these past like captains and current captains because Lindsay Heaps is going to come right back and take the armband back for me.

1:15:14But it was an honor for sure. Obviously growing up and looking up to the national team and then being in the national team, then being the face, one of the faces of the national team is always an honor. but then having the armband, you have a lot of responsibilities. There was a couple team talks. I was like, oh, I got another speech. I got another speech. I got to grab this banner. I got to do this. It was like a lot of pressure, but I think I did a good enough job, and then scoring and doing that with the armband was pretty cool.

1:15:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. Sexy Dexy with the captain's armband in U.S. Women's National Team play is obviously fantastic. Are you going to continue with this? Is this going to be your thing, or will you change as you go forward, or is that all TBD? In terms of celebrations? Yeah, Sexy Dexy going to be celebration for how long? No, no, no. It's already trademarked. That's somebody else's. I'll keep changing my celebration. Okay, sick. Can we? So what I just heard is we can pitch. Okay. Right? Is that what I just said? We can pitch celebration ideas? Yes. Okay, we'll send them over. Now is not the time.

1:16:11Pat McAfee:We will have a full brainstorm. I will get at an altitude that is proper. I will imagine as if we score a goal in the moment in what we think would be cool. And we'll send them your way. Okay, we will send them your way. just because it's so good for everybody. It's good for sport, whatever, what you are doing is seen by the masses, and you certainly are. You're electrifying, Trinity. And on that note, we need more of that to happen. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, we do. Trinity, we've got, I think, six or seven daughters in this office, so I need to know the path. Are we doing club, high school? Are we playing multiple sports?

1:16:47How did we get to where we are today?

1:16:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, and also day-to-day, what are we doing? She's two years, seven months, my daughter. Started young, toe touches. Yeah, we tapping a ball. I mean, Pat, I think your daughter should be on the field at least three hours a day starting now. No, I'm just kidding. Okay, all right. I think, I don't know. My, like, route to where I'm at now is abnormal, I feel like. Like, I played youth soccer growing up, like, all the way up until high school, and then I was kind of in school, homeschooled, had national teams. So I think just like club soccer up until maybe college, but also college has changed a lot.

1:17:27So I am the worst person to ask. I had a really good path, really easy path for the most part. No, it's not easy.

1:17:33Pat McAfee:It was really easy because you worked your ass off, Trinity. Let's like make sure everybody understands that, you know, like. Yeah, you worked your ass off for the path to be easy. Yeah, because whenever people came to watch you, they saw what you did and they're like, well, that seems like we need to go ahead and help there. 17, you got drafted. How old were you when you got drafted? 18 is that normal that seems abnormal that's abnormal no it's pretty abnormal or was at the time now we got a lot of youngins in the league and starting their journey so it's becoming more normal and i think it's great because you're starting the development super early with the professional players but yeah i was i was a little baby for sure still am but yeah but growing up in a professional league is crazy you know having to manage all of that you obviously don't live a normal life but you worked your ass off never forget it go ahead ty yeah trinity i i read that you initially committed to UCLA but then decided on Washington State instead but then actually never played in college because of COVID.

1:18:29I'm just curious because at this point with NIL and everything, they're kind of just letting 28-year-old dudes, 35-year-old dudes go back and play. Seeing what you've already accomplished in your career, have you considered maybe like, you know what, maybe I will just go back to UCLA. West Virginia!

1:18:46Pat McAfee:Go back to West Virginia, win a Cincinnati. Iowa is also very good in the Big Ten, but have you considered maybe doing that? Like, hey, I'll go back to school, maybe take like three credit hours and I'll win like three national championships. What's that? What are you saying? No. Just to add that to the resume.

1:19:04No. School is not my thing. It was a great little couple of months I was at Washington State. My brother was there. and yeah the school like i couldn't fathom doing work and like no absolutely not i'm cool where

1:19:22Pat McAfee:i'm at yeah i'm a professional athlete all right so what are we learning are we learning if what we're learning is going to pay me two million a year for three years cool i'm certainly here to listen but uh from my understanding what soccer is about to be for me do you have what was when you were doing this you have a hand cat do we have hand cat right there yeah a little something okay so do the women because the dude soccer players all get the sleeves right don't they they all do the sleeves women's soccer similar or no i think we have a mix um i think more no tatted than tatted but um i think it's it's becoming more and more as we go but yeah i started with my hands i don't really have any other tattoos which is also abnormal but uh we'll see if we add to that you're a professional athlete trinity you can do whatever fuck you want you get a face.

1:20:11You get a pass.

1:20:12Pat McAfee:If you're a pro athlete, you can do whatever you want. If you're good, if you're good, if you're ass, you can't do shit. But if you're good, yeah, exactly. If you're good, you got to do whatever. Okay. The NWSL, you talk about our good players going overseas. Do we have a lot of American players in the NWSL? Is it majority American players? Ooh, yeah. Majority American players, but the internationals, the numbers are going up for sure. You're having a lot of players come over here as the years go on and it's, it's great for the league. They're amazing players and they're adding so much. Do they, uh, do you guys do like a USA versus the world as the all-star game for the NWSL?

1:20:47Pat McAfee:Um, not yet. All right. So this is what we're doing. Okay. I'm going to get me with your people at the Washington spirit. I would like to get involved. I think this is a, if we're paying six mil over three years for one player, there's going to be more on the way. I'm so incredibly pumped to watch you continue to ascend. Thank you for doing what you're doing and, uh, keep killing it. Trinity. Thank you. Thank you for having me. What happened with Ben? When we lost, what happened? I saw he was winning and then I saw we lost. We played a really good guy, I heard. Yeah. I love how it's always a we.

1:21:19Yeah, we did. Yeah, Sinner's pretty good. So I think at some point Ben will get him, but he's getting better and better and I'm proud of him for sure.

1:21:28Pat McAfee:How was it for you two? Obviously in the very public eye, but you came together in the public eye and getting to meet you, it was cool to see how smitten you two were. It was really cute to see the young love between you two. How has that been, obviously, being a topic of conversation amongst people on the internet and tabloids and such? I mean, it's amazing. Like you said, we're just like little kids in love is what it feels like. But it's been amazing. Being able to support each other in different sports is cool. He's learning a lot about soccer. I'm learning a lot about tennis. And then on top of that, just doing fun things together with that.

1:22:04I mean, obviously you get a lot being pro athletes, you get a lot of opportunities together. So just taking advantage of those, but also like when we're off, we're isolated and we're taking advantage of that too.

1:22:14Pat McAfee:So you thought I would lose, I think 11 zip and ping pong to Ben, I think is a, or maybe he said that. And then you said you're getting good at tennis too, right? Aren't you? I think you're getting good at tennis as well. Yeah, I'm getting pretty decent. Yeah. Would I be able to beat either of you in any paddle game? You think? I feel like you would definitely beat me in ping pong but anything that involves athletics yeah something that's like maybe a one or two step thing ladies and gentlemen the future of sports an absolute beast we appreciate the hell out of you for joining us congrats on everything and keep going yeah thank you so much ladies and gentlemen Trinity Rodney she's pretty awesome she is her and ben were like a really cool thing like watching them together because they are just trying to act like a cup like you know but obviously ben very tall very tall trinity as soon as you see her it's like oh that's trinity rodvin and if even if you don't know trinity rodman is you're like that's some that is somebody right there for sure so they're just trying to act normal aj freezes up on tv get a little nervous talking to trinity rodman i see your your screen freezing up over there age you get a little choked up about it all a little bit yeah i guess i was

1:23:26Joe Brady:Yeah, I didn't even know.

1:23:27Pat McAfee:Hey, what if she feels like she has it? She's only 23.

1:23:31Joe Brady:She's been a professional for what, six years already? Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable what her path might be.

1:23:36Pat McAfee:As you were talking about school, she was literally like, no, absolutely. I think it's a little different now than maybe whenever it was six years ago. Yeah, you don't have to do school when you go back. Isn't that crazy? Didn't Carson say that? Carson Beck came out and was like, I haven't had classes six months. I graduated two years ago. Yeah, two years. How does that work? I don't know. It shouldn't. I don't know how that works.

1:23:54Joe Brady:You just take a couple classes, I guess, towards a graduate degree. Year-round. You're just doing, like, during the summer, you can probably load up your entire.

1:24:01Pat McAfee:He's definitely not loading up in summer.

1:24:03Joe Brady:No.

1:24:03Pat McAfee:I'm thinking once you graduate, there's, like, you only have to take some sort of class.

1:24:07Joe Brady:You might not even have to do that. Like, it's all online, too. I think the majority of your stuff, you can take online as well.

1:24:13Pat McAfee:The summer classes are the worst. Because the summer workouts. Every year. Yeah. That was, like, 25 years ago.

1:24:19Joe Brady:Like, I'm sure they're much easier now. Oh, you're saying they're not real. Pass, fail. No. Yeah. Yeah, because I do wonder if he even has to sign up for it. Like, Carson Beck, I think he just had eligibility remaining. So, like, I think that is an option. Like, he could have went and got, like, a master's degree, but I think it's like, hey, you still have two years. Like, you graduated. That's cool. You're a football player. I had a friend who got a gray shirt,

1:24:42Pat McAfee:which means he didn't start until after the first semester. Then he got a blue shirt, which I believe was a medical thing because he got hurt. Then he got a red shirt, and then he played out the rest of the thing. I was signing my contract, my second contract in the NFL. Yeah. After he was playing his senior year of football. It was after I got franchise tag and I was signing my second year. And we started technically same signing class. It was wild. So that was happening back then. Now it's just happening seemingly all the time. So Iowa played USC in basketball last night. And one of the players who starts for USC, his name's like Baker Mazzara is his last name.

1:25:17I believe he's 26 years old. They said he is older than 50.4 % of the players in the NBA, and he's been at USC just forever.

1:25:28Joe Brady:I mean, Miami's got a 26-year-old coming back to play linebacker. Bo Torre. Torre. Great player. Great player.

1:25:34Pat McAfee:I don't want to say we've kind of been on this since the beginning, but the Australian punters kind of opened this up. The Australian punters kind of opened up this entire pipeline of, we never went to school. And so what are you going to do about it? because kind of ipso facto if i never started university or second education or whatever the hell it is uh the clock never started for me to maybe lose my eligibility so since i didn't go to college and i had an entire uh professional aussie rules football career i think i can come over there now and be freshman and then somebody looked into it and they're like yup we got 27 year old freshmen aussie freshmen aussie freshmen aussie who retired that guy retired how old is he he's got full family is he ever gonna get in trouble we show up at class yep okay how far can he kick it 42 yards every time done boom give us that guy and it started becoming like a thing it's like 27 year old 28 year old 25 year old even like 23 year old freshman that's quite an advantage over a 17 year old who's trying to get the scholarship and now it's kind of filtering into all sports because of how everything's kind of wide open gonna have to get a wrangle on that entire thing because like 17 year old you know and once again aussie folks all have been nice to me i respect the American Dream opportunity that has come.

1:26:45Pat McAfee:It's not their fault that that was a thing, but that was certainly like the first real batch of that happening. Also, guys who got drafted into baseball.

1:26:53Joe Brady:Baseball. Joe Klatt. Yeah, they come in at 26 years old as a freshman. We did. Chris Winkie. Yeah, Brandon Weedon. Drew Henson, if you remember that. J.R. Haas did it. Yes, J.R. Haas.

1:27:03Pat McAfee:For West Virginia, but he obviously didn't go on to have the success as a football quarterback as everybody else. But he came back, I think, because he had shoulder, some sort of injury, and he came back, played football at WVU because in high school he was the greatest quarterback in the history of West Virginia high school football. I think he had like 10 touchdowns in the state finals or something like that, like something ridiculous. And then he would go down to Florida in the spring and do baseball and then the Pirates draft him, I think first round. So he did the whole baseball thing, made it, made it, made it.

1:27:29Pat McAfee:Then he had an injury. Then he was like, I'll go back to West Virginia, maybe try football at this thing. Rehabbed his shoulder with us, did the whole thing, was a great leader of us. But yeah, he was like 26 years old, driving an escalator, I think, drove me to class one time. Yeah, Chris Winkie, I think, when he got drafted by the Panthers after he won the Heisman, he got drafted when he was 29. Like, he was a starting quarterback at Florida State, and he was 29 years old. So this has happened for a long time in different ways, but now it feels like it's being like a strategy, as opposed to just, like, happening.

1:27:59Pat McAfee:Now it's like a strategy, like, well, what do we even need? Talk to high school kids. We can get G League bus. They're going to be better than Big 12. So let's go ahead and just do that. got to put some, hey, need cigar rails here, H. Need cigar rails.

1:28:13Joe Brady:I thought after the whole COVID, we got out of the COVID thing, now it's going to come back somewhat to normal. No. They claim. I doubt it. I guess you just have to have a reason to get an extra year. You got a petition, and then they got to approve it and all that.

1:28:25Pat McAfee:What's going on with Wayne Dad? Have we heard anything about Wayne Dad? Yeah. What about Diego? Are they going to let him play in on you?

1:28:31Joe Brady:I don't think so. He's climbing up draft boards as we speak. He is actually, reports out of the senior boards is that he's actually performing very well down there. Ball in? Yeah. I like that. He's a competitor. That's not shocking him.

1:28:42Pat McAfee:I think he would ball out down there. His size is obviously going to be talked about going forward. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who knows quarterback play in the NFL very well. Also in college. This guy's a former national champion. This guy's been the offense coordinator for the Buffalo Beals. This guy always has a fresh fade. Every single time I've ever seen him throughout all these years of a ball. Incredible fade. Anytime you see a what with an incredible fade as a what who fades his own hair, that is something that you have to admire, especially being on top of it seemingly all the time.

1:29:15Pat McAfee:The new head coach of the Buffalo Bills, ladies and gentlemen, Coach Joe Brady.

1:29:20Joe Brady:Yeah, coach!

1:29:22Pat McAfee:Head fade, really good. Yeah, that should happen this morning, it looks like. We've got that thing tightened up. Not quite, but close, man, close. I'm losing it up top, but as long as we've got the fade on the side, we're good to go. Yeah, but you've got head coach money right now, so you can get that figured out. You can get that figured out right now. I might look a little different in a couple years. Hey, Wayne Rooney, he seemingly had a similar look here, so you could maybe see him for precedence there. Congratulations, dude. Congratulations, head coach in the NFL. Now, whenever they move on from McDermott, the decision is made.

1:29:51Pat McAfee:There's a press conference. There's a lot of confusion. What are they going to do? Sean McDermott would be hired literally anywhere if he was to be released, and then he's saying he's sitting out a year. You're in the building. You get hired as the head coach. what was the conversation like to get the job and now that you have it what do you think some of the advantages are of you being able to stay there and potentially keep the culture and the core the same yeah i mean look like obviously i did i expect it to happen with coach mcdermott no you know but once once the opportunity once it happened and and this was an opportunity that came along like this is exactly where i wanted to be and and uh obviously you know got afforded the opportunity and look they like you said they went straight from a press conference to my interview and i I didn't know what the hell to expect.

1:30:30I'm going to be honest with you. It was one of those opportunities that's like, hey, are they just going to sit there and be like, hey, we checked the box. This guy's the in-house man, and let's keep it moving. And look, I walked into that, and I came away so damn impressed by the ownership group, Brandon Bean, as you guys know Bean, and Josh sitting in there. And I'm with these guys on a day-to-day basis, but they treat it as if I was the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints, right? And, man, I appreciated that so much. and I mean, it was intense, but look, I was sweating it out for a week, but there's no world.

1:31:05I didn't want to just be a head coach. I wanted to be the head coach of the Buffalo Bills, man, and man, I'm loving life right now.

1:31:09Pat McAfee:I love to hear that. Congratulations. A lot of expectation, obviously, because the man that you talked about that was sitting in there in the room, Josh Allen, and how great he is. You've obviously seen it. You've witnessed it. What are the questions in there? Are they talking about, okay, you have an MVP quarterback. We have the best runner in the backfield in James Cook. Look, our offensive line was voted the number one offensive line in football by A.Q. Shipley in the trenches. What is the conversation? What is the interview like? And what did they not know about you maybe that they learn in that interview process that make you think that you could be the head guy?

1:31:39Well, I think, look, the biggest thing is there's a complete difference of just calling plays and then running an organization and understanding how to lead a group of men. I'm not the offensive coordinator anymore. you know and making sure that I understand how to communicate with the defensive guys and have a vision for what I want what I want that to look like with our special teams and what's going to look like standing in front of a room and um look they put me through the ringer you know and and uh and look we got to grow our offense so it's it's not one of those things where it's just like hey offense check let's keep it moving and uh you know just making sure that they they allowed me the opportunity to kind of talk about my vision um you know and everything that we do and look Josh didn't toss me in the alley oops you know I hit him after I was like you couldn't you You couldn't give me a little, I've been with you.

1:32:19You know, you could have hit me a little something. And no, he was, he approached it the right way. And I have so much respect for how he handled it. And, you know, obviously I removed myself from the situation with him. But, and he's not the first quarterback that sat in one of these meetings that I've been in. But I know he takes a little heat from it. But man, he was outstanding. And look, I get to call plays with Josh. And there's no one I love more.

1:32:39Pat McAfee:You said you're not the offense coordinator for the Bills anymore. You're still going to call plays though as the head coach, right? You're just adding another title. Yeah, okay, okay. That's obvious. our defensive guys need to know that you know what i mean like i'm i'm not an offensive head coach i'm a head coach and like i just told the guys out there like i can't wait for the first practice to go out there and josh to throw a fucking pick and i get to celebrate with the defense like i can't wait to be able to talk shit to our fucking offensive tackle and do it i can't wait i don't want it to happen yeah of course of course because it's on you kind of but i know you know what i mean so but but like i need them to know that i'm in it with them now You know what I mean?

1:33:14Like, and it's not like, hey, I'm going out to practice and I'm just yelling at the defense. You know, it's like, no, no, no, let's go. And I want them to feel that. And so I hope that that's a mentality and a mindset that our guys have is they can't view me in the same way. And so it's not, hey, business as usual. Hey, Sean McDermott out, Joe Brady in, and we're just keeping it moving. Like, there's got to be a different mentality in the way that we go about it. And I'm excited for it.

1:33:34Joe Brady:Go ahead, AJ. I assume right now you're working on trying to build your staff. I don't know if that's something I assume over your years in the league and in college, you you build relationships you you want to plan for that in the future when you do become a head coach now that you are a head coach is that I guess what's that process been like so far and how important is it for you to get the right people in place that that's that's everything to me like as I've look I've this isn't I've been my whole life you're kind of sitting there preparing and trying to take notes working for Sean Payton going through these things like hey if you ever get in this opportunity man like stay ready so you don't have to get ready right and so um but now that's sitting here it's like right what's what's exactly going to look like and I'm not interested in hiring friends.

1:34:13I only get one opportunity to be a head coach. And it's important that I understand that, like I say it all the time, we're going to be quick putting staff together, but we're not going to be in a hurry. Right. John, like it is important that I get the right people, the personalities, not getting, if I get a lot of Joe Brady's, I'm going to fail. Right. I need guy, I need, I need different mindsets, different backgrounds, personalities, different type of teaching and putting that all together. But I also want guys that are comfortable being the, you know, like I am who I am, man. I fucking curse.

1:34:39Right. I slur words i can't put it all together i got the worst grammar but i'm comfortable being me and i want guys to be be them man and i kind of roll with it man and um i think our guys play to their personality and that's what we're gonna do you know what i mean listen man i mumble every once

1:34:53Pat McAfee:in a while you get the fucking point all right you understand what i'm saying you hear what i'm trying to say oh yeah and then once i get the caffeine in me and i'm talking before a game and i'm rolling like i don't know what the hell i'm saying but uh but uh it's they they know the guys know that i love them and i'm gonna fucking do whatever i gotta do for them okay so let's talk about the expectations obviously you have high expectations already on yourself but mcdarmick gets let go after what some places would say a successful season obviously not making it to the super bowl is the conversation about can we get there can we get how do you kind of manage the expectations being absurd for a first time nfl head coach but also understanding that that's the reality of the buffalo bills with josh allen as a quarterback yeah i mean you i wanted the job because of that.

1:35:38Like, like there, I'm not going to shy away from expectations. Like, um, there's no one, no one from me, like I'm still a GA with a mindset. Like I showed up to work with the same mindset and nothing's changing from that. So if I'm focusing on expectations from other people, that's, there's a standard by how we do things here. And it's my mindset to be able to change that mentality and making sure that we can do whatever that is to be able to get to where we, we haven't gotten. And, uh, but I'm not shying, shying away from it. Like I'm embracing it. And I want our guys to know that, but like, I don't believe anybody rises to low expectations.

1:36:06Like who the hell wants to be somewhere where you're sitting there going into it and not having, you know, a mindset and feeling like we got a chance. Like we got 17 and when you show up every single day, they got to know that they got to fucking play us and not the other way around.

1:36:16Pat McAfee:I don't think you mumble, by the way. I just think you speak very fast. I'm excited right now. I'll slow down for you, bro. No, don't. I turn up my, I'll listen a little faster. 50 Cent said that. If you can't understand what I'm saying, just listen a little faster. Like that is whenever you're chatting, you did because you didn't flub right there. Your WPMs were very high and you didn't flub. I was actually listening for a flop because I can potentially be a fast speaker every once in a while as well. So whenever I heard you get going, I'm like, wait a second. Is Joe Brady's brain about to go really pop off in this thing?

1:36:41Pat McAfee:And it was. You're like Busta Rhymes in there. Twista. You didn't miss a single beat, brother. I respect you. And then you got the, obviously, the, I mean, you're crushing it right now, Joe. You're crushing it right now. I know. It's going up too much, man. Like, I need to trip the turkeys. Headband, headband. You need to start wearing the double headband like LeBron. That's true. That is true. That can change the game like that. On the sideline, too. Something to think about. Belichick has the cutoffs, obviously. Some people have the visors. Some people look cool. You having a big headband. Just a massive headband.

1:37:12Bring Jim McMahon back. We're rolling. Yes.

1:37:14Pat McAfee:Yes. Yes. I think that is not a bet. Something to think about. Listen, we're just ideas here. We're just creative. It's the first couple days. Go ahead, Con, man.

1:37:20Joe Brady:Yeah, Joe, obviously you see the helmet on Patriots fans, so I'm not going to wish you good luck per se, but it is very nice to see you as a head coach, especially from your journey at LSU that we all followed. But have you thought about the fact that you were going to be the first head coach in Buffalo Bills history to coach in the brand new stadium? Have you kind of grasped that and kind of wrapped your mind around that? And also, can you give us an update as far as how big the Buffaloes are outside of the stadium, if that is something that you know? Yeah, well, you guys are going to have to come here to check that out and find out for yourselves.

1:37:52Hell yeah. You know, I mean, it's time to make a trip to Buffalo. Deal. You know what I mean? That's exactly what it's got to look like. But, yeah, it's – first, I struggle talking to you wearing what you're wearing. But, yeah, it's almost like I wanted to just skip your question.

1:38:12Joe Brady:You can. You can. He's living the hot life right now, Joe. Yeah, I could ask you about the Super Bowl, but Patriots are there. Sorry. Hey, Josh. Hey, there he is.

1:38:22Pat McAfee:Josh, what up, dude? How you doing, man? I'm good. How you guys doing? Good. We saw you crutch your ass into his press conference. Everybody's like, you know what? Josh loves Joe. He crutched his ass in there. That's an accurate assessment, I believe. He's not even hurt. That's the crazy thing. All for show. All for show. Honestly, I could play on Sunday if we needed me to. I would. I know you would, yes. That's why you're Josh Allen, brother, and that's why everybody wanted that gig. Hey, he talked about you being in the interview room, and he said you got a lot of shit, and he talked about how other rooms, there are buildings that he's gone to, the quarterback's been in there as well.

1:38:52Pat McAfee:He said you kind of separated church and state there whenever you're doing the interview process. How much did you enjoy that, and how pumped are you for Joe to get the gig up there? Very, very excited for Joe. Obviously, again, we talked about it. I didn't do anything for him. He did it himself. But I got to be in there, and it was a unique perspective to kind of, like you said, separate church and state. Asked him some hard-hitting questions. But we've got to ask him one question now. What watch is he going to get? I got him on the watches. I'm just kind of into the watch game. And he said when he gets a head coaching job, whether it was here or somewhere else, that he was going to give himself a watch.

1:39:31And now we've got to find him a watch.

1:39:34Pat McAfee:Joe, that's awesome that Josh is buying you and all the new coaches watches. That's so cool. Thank you, Josh. You're a hero, Josh. Broly, presidential. Is that what you're looking for too, Joe? Maybe the dawn? That's the exact one I want. I think we can find one in New York on one of the streets. Good place to get him. Yep. That's a good place to get him. That's not a bad idea. People would never know. He's a head coach. That's what I'm talking about. He's a head coach. Josh, obviously you got rehab for how long? Is that already projected out? Is that just what your offseason is now? You're going to be good for everything coming forward in spring and everything?

1:40:06Pat McAfee:We'll be ready. You're the man, Josh. Thank you for popping in. I appreciate it. You too. Cheers, dude. Hell yeah, Josh. Legend. Absolute legend. Okay, last couple questions if that's okay, Joe. Yeah, sorry. Let me get you right. When you get Josh Allen, you got to get him in the camera. Yeah, I see you get it. Yeah, usually Josh Allen comes in and I just get out of the way. But, you know, here we go. Hey, you get it. This is a first. This is a first. That might be why you got the gig right there, actually. Okay, so let's say you're doing an interview with that dipshit McAfee. Okay, Josh Allen comes here.

1:40:36Pat McAfee:What are you doing with the camera? Let me move that thing. Let me go ahead and move that thing. Yeah. Go ahead. He's sitting on crutches, and I'm sitting down, and I didn't even let him sit. Oh, is there a riff in Buffalo? Yeah, go ahead, Tom. Go ahead, Tom. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Coach, during the press conference, there was a lot of talk about Bill's draft picks and disagreements maybe between coaches in the front office. Have you talked to Bean yet about what your role is going to be in the draft process, or was that part of the interviews at all? Yeah, look, Brandon Bean and I are in this together.

1:41:09This isn't Joe Brady. This isn't Brandon Bean. We're like this. And what I love, I've had an opportunity to work for him. A lot of times you get a new job, and it's like, hey, everyone, we're acting like we're best friends. We've never worked together. Like I've been in it through, I've been in it with Brandon being to understand how he thinks and understand that we can have the tough conversations and like the alignment that we have, like we can disagree and I'm good with that. And so, but once we leave and just not disagree too much.

1:41:40Pat McAfee:Oh, look at you guys running for president up there. Yeah, you guys look good. Oh yeah. All right. Suit. See you, suit. See you, brother. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man, I'm not a sweet guy. But yeah, no. At the end of the day, I'm going to be involved in the draft divisions, and he wants that collaboration, and that's who he is. And we're in this together. Like I said, we're not going to agree on everything, but when we can agree to disagree, when we're in that room, when we open that door, it's an organizational decision, and we're freaking rolling. Congratulations on finding somebody you're on the same page with, obviously, having to coexist for the last few years and understanding how each other operates.

1:42:16Pat McAfee:It's a big deal. there's like people who you know um get married and never live together beforehand you know and then it's like man toothpaste potential thing like there's like so many so many little things that you have no idea what could be you being in the building with bean while operating there feels like it's a good play and then your mcdermott connection is william and mary just like what is this place is this where all what is it honestly yeah well look the the mcdermott actually played tomlin actually played like i had i i had more uh i should have just been for the brand like i was i was special teams just going down running down on punting i had three career catches so i was good i i sucked at football um you know like they call a spade a spade like i like i had three career i had more tackles and i had catches so like um you know it is yeah no but they don't i if i changed my number i could have told people i was a db and it might have might have might have put my cred up a little bit.

1:43:13So, but no, it's William and Mary, man. We, we were, we're small, but we're proud. And we almost realized we can't play in playing football. We just appreciate our parents for paying a lot of money for education and we get into coaching.

1:43:26Pat McAfee:And then become head coaches. And I think if they go the same way, the last two have gone, you're going to be in a good spot. Your name has been hot for a long time. We've known you and heard of your name potentially being in this particular role for a while. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, although you may have sucked at football in your words, post-LSU when you guys win the national championship, you were kind of anointed. It's like, hey, be on the lookout. This guy is going to be a head coach. And through the last several cycles, you have always been one of those guys. And I'm happy that you didn't just go ahead and like take the Browns job or like take one of these jobs where, you know, you're probably going to be looking for something else in a few years.

1:44:04But do you feel like now you are way more prepared than you were maybe when you were the OC in Carolina or coming out of LSU? Like, why do you feel like now is the right time? And how much do you feel like you've learned in these last several years of calling plays and being the OC? Yeah, I mean, look, that's real. Like, you know, they always say, hey, when you're putting together a staff, you know, like I try to pride myself on being proactive in my own development. And just because, you know, we've all been through coaches that like they, you got two guys that have, one's been coaching 20 years, both of them have been coaching for 20 years, but one has been doing the exact same thing for the last 10.

1:44:37And the other one for the last 10 is continuing to evolve and grow. And I try to pride myself on like trying to reinvent myself every year and, and the systems I'm around and knowing that football's changing and growing. And so, look, I'm as ready as I possibly can be to be a head coach right now. Right. Like I've never been a head coach. The only way to get head coaching experience is to be a head coach. Like I'm going to have to go through it. And I know there's so many elements that I don't know. But I wanted to be a head coach with the right people in the right spot. And I wanted to be right here right now.

1:45:05And I'm so grateful to be able to be a part of Buffalo Bills. And but I'm a different person now than I was five years ago. And that's just because I've tried to make sure that I'm growing and learning. And like, I got an opportunity to be around Josh and he kind of changed my mindset and view on how I, how I coach and how I see the game. And it's, it's been a huge, uh, um, I I'm here because of him.

1:45:24Pat McAfee:Congratulations. We're pumped for you. Uh, and I also appreciate the fact that you're a Buffalonian already, you know, South Carolina, certainly you're going to think you showed up with shorts. I like that you run hot. I run hot as well. What's the temperature in that office? 64, 65. We don't, we don't, we don't turn it on. We just let it roll. We like to, we like to let the outside kind of going in, But that's what I wear every single day. Like I, I get dressed in the dark. I wear a black shirt shorts every single day. So, uh, it don't matter the temperature. If it's the summer or the winter, it's, it is what it is.

1:45:52Uh, if it's cold out, I'm going to just hurry up and get my ass inside.

1:45:56Pat McAfee:I like that. You, Steve jobs, just kind of eliminating the decision from your day, except for when I also, I also have two kids that, and I got a, uh, a nine week old, so I don't have a choice, but to get dressed in the dark too. So it doesn't, it doesn't make a difference. Congratulations to you and the family head coach. new baby life is good for joe brady just gotta win the super bowl joe no pressure good luck yeah i appreciate you guys thanks for having me on man huge fan let's make sure those bisons are big yeah big i'm telling you when you guys come to check it out man you guys can judge for yourselves you got i can't wait to get up there you're the man ladies and gentlemen the head coach of the buffalo bills joe brady if you're ready for an oil change trust the professional parts people at O 'Reilly Auto Parts to recommend the best products for your vehicle.

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1:48:01Pat McAfee:all day. Shout out to the Buffalo Beals making that happen. The Baltimore Ravens making that happen with Jesse Minter. I'm happy that we're getting a chance. Oh, yeah, and then Coach Mike McCarthy's on tomorrow.

1:48:13Joe Brady:Boom!

1:48:13Pat McAfee:Hell yeah. Feels like it's been a little bit of a run here. I feel like we're on a little bit of a run, AJ. And then next week, whenever we're down or we're over at Radio Rail, there's a hilarious group. I think Christian McCaffrey's going to be joining us. I think Fred Warner's going to be joining us. I think Steve Irwin's boy's going to be joining us. Excuse me. Robert? Shut up. Yep.

1:48:32Joe Brady:Is he bringing animals? I don't know, H. Are you going to be there?

1:48:35Pat McAfee:He's bringing himself. Yeah, we don't know, H. It's going to be a massive week over there. We can't wait to get started. We'll be off Monday, Tuesday, back Wednesday for Radio Row over there in San Francisco. It's going to be outrageous. We are very, very pumped to get out there. A storyline that has certainly taken over all of it has been the Hall of Fame voting process. And Bill Belichick still not in the Hall of Fame, H.J.

1:48:59Joe Brady:Still not, huh? I thought maybe overnight they might change things.

1:49:02Pat McAfee:It did. Actually. The Hall of Fame came out and they're like, yeah, we're looking into it. And we're certainly going to be taking away some people's votes if they don't follow the bylaws of who's supposed to get in, who's not supposed to get in. There was one of the voters, a man from Kansas City, wrote an entire thing on why he didn't vote for Bill Belichick to be in there. And he basically said he thought the other candidates, the senior candidates, because there's different categories. Players obviously go in, contributors, they're seniors. There's a whole different bunch of different categories.

1:49:27Pat McAfee:Whereas one doesn't pull from the other, but unless you're in the same category as each other. And he basically said, Easter, guys, this is our last shot. Okay, it's kind of our last shot. So I didn't vote for Bill just because the system, you know, where the system is, you should fix the system. And then it's like, well, the system is for you to vote who you think is the best in there, not just like who you feel bad for that maybe isn't going to have anymore. Well, the system may force me to do it. It's like, okay, so there's one of the no's. Now we need 10 other no's. Is it going to be the same reason?

1:49:53Pat McAfee:and it does feel like potentially that people are like enough people vote for bill i'm gonna go ahead and do so i don't really love him but somebody will put him in there and it was just kind of so many people did the i don't really love him because they're media and he really hasn't done it uh somebody else will do it somebody else will do it somebody else will do it it turns out not enough people actually did it so now they're being called frauds you know they're being that entire thing bill pollian would like everybody to know i'm not a what are we doing here no way initial reports whenever it came out was that uh bill pollian actually uh campaigned against bill belichick in the room where it happened because of spygate then a report came out and said just talk to bill bill voted for bill belichick to be a first ballot hall of famer then don van not a jr calls bill pollian night of the entire report don van not a jr of espn who we asked come on show the other day he respectfully declined okay he broke the entire story of the leak he He then talks to Bill Paulian that night.

1:50:48Pat McAfee:Paulian might have been in bed. He's 83 years old. It was later in the evening. He said, I don't remember, 95 % sure I voted for him to go in there. Okay, so then everybody's like, that sounds like bullshit. Bill Belichick, Bill Paulian didn't vote for Bill Belichick, and he campaigned against him. So Bill Paulian went on to his radio show, okay, on Sirius XM, NFL radio, and he had a prepared statement. This is what he had to say. All right, thank you. I wrote this out, so I'm reading from the statement. I voted for Coach Belichick in the Hall of Fame selection meeting. The Pro Football Hall of Fame has confirmed that fact through the auditors of the selection process.

1:51:30Again, I'll state that I never said that I believe that Coach Belichick should, quote, wait a year, close quote, for enshrinement. This has been confirmed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame, numerous selectors who are in the room, and my vote for Coach Belichick. As a Hall of Fame member and selector, I realize the import of what we do. I've always tried, as a selector, to make these difficult choices with the utmost objectivity. I've said on SiriusXM Radio and numerous other media outlets that I believe Coach Belichick to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. My vote confirms that.

1:52:11Pat McAfee:So let's stop slandering Bill Polian. Bill Polian became the face of, he's the reason why he didn't get in. And Bill Polian's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I'm sure Bill Polian has some ideas on why and who. And he is choosing not to, which is why he did the prepared statement. Because he would start probably his thoughts and then say, if you want to point your fingers at anybody, it's the, I'm going to read from the statement right here. Let me read from the statement. So Bill would like to clear his name. Guy from Kansas City said I was one of them. And it feels like we are going to maybe snake them out, but everybody could be lying at any time because it's all confidential.

1:52:41Pat McAfee:It's not public.

1:52:42Joe Brady:Yeah, right? And Bill Pullen said, I guess you can ask the other voters, hey, did you talk to them? I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They can lie right to your face because we're never going to see the results, right? Like the NFL or the Hall of Fame people, they're not going to put out everybody's voting. So, yeah, you can just lie.

1:52:57Pat McAfee:You can even ask the auditors in the super-duper confidential stuff. The Hall of Fame said I did it. The people in there said I did it. It's like, well, did they actually? And then we'll ask him and they'll say, well, no, I talk about that actually. And a discussion. At least 11 of you, it feels like at least 11 of you had to have said no. It wasn't me. It's like a reality game show. It's legit. It's like mole.

1:53:19Joe Brady:Yeah.

1:53:19Pat McAfee:It's like traitors.

1:53:20Joe Brady:Yes. I mean, wouldn't you respect it if someone comes out and says, no, I didn't vote for Bill because I think the whole Spygate thing was garbage. So Kansas City guy didn't say that. I know. That's what I thought he might.

1:53:30Pat McAfee:But I did see a lot of people coming out and saying other stories from, I think, who was the Patriots guy on that one podcast who said we had their, basically, I forget the podcast, but he came out and solidified like we had people's calls or something like that. He said we had it all, and people were just running with that. They're like, they cheated. They cheated. They cheated. And I'm like, well, did they cheat for 20-some years? And if they did, they got away with cheating like that?

1:53:55Joe Brady:But at least I would say, hey, I disagree with you. I think you're wrong. but thank you for at least giving me your your honest opinion on it yeah but you know these

1:54:04Pat McAfee:people aren't gonna yeah right every one of them will figure out a way to grandstand on something else they could grandstand yeah yeah i'll tell you what my fellow voters that didn't vote for him despicable it's like push comes up probably yeah exactly which is why i wouldn't want to be a voter why would you want to be a voter because you like the game for this reason this is why we're talking about loving sport, you know, as opposed to thinking that you run sport, own sport, you are gatekeeper of sport, you are the reason for sport, you are bigger than sport. It's like love of sport, love of haul is why people would want to do it.

1:54:39Pat McAfee:I wouldn't want to do it. But if I was tasked with it, I would understand it's magnificent import.

1:54:46Joe Brady:Yeah, no doubt.

1:54:47Pat McAfee:Without a doubt. Yes, I absolutely would. Thank you, H. Thank you for that. And once again, Bill Pullian is 83 years old.

1:54:57Joe Brady:That's probably a problem. Jimmy Johnson's in it too. Prepared statement. Yeah, we don't need a prepared statement.

1:55:02Pat McAfee:Well, that's the thing. Should Bill Pullian at 83 whenever he says I'm 95 % sure, should he be doing a vote actually? No. Then it's a whole... Well, who's the right answer? A.J. Hawk? Nope. He is a Hoffnum. Yeah. Oh, he is officially a Hoffnum. Yeah. But what does that mean now? Oh, some people are saying nothing. I hope not. The Hall of Fame matters. Damn it! That's how the show ended. Just like driver's license. Great lead-in. You should have to retest at a certain age for a Hall of Fame vote or driving a car or many other things. Yeah. What would the test be? Probably. For the Hall of Fame nominations?

1:55:40Pat McAfee:Or the driver's test. You can go through both of them. Hall of Fame, I would start with, like, hey, what's your name? What day of the week is it? Okay, so that's like PSAT. Who won the Super Bowl last year? Who's the MVP? Because it feels like that could probably get rid of a couple right then and there. Maybe do like a memory match puzzle so you can remember who you voted for.

1:55:57Joe Brady:Concussion test. Yeah, give them the concussion test. You're right. Baseline, audit. You got to give them a baseline when they get the job, and then you got to retest every year to make sure you're okay.

1:56:05Pat McAfee:Personality test as well, just so we know they're not holding any grudges potentially. Is that a – how do you get that?

1:56:10Joe Brady:Lie detector. I'd say lie detector test.

1:56:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, but then you know some of these will come in there with the tack on the toe. Yeah, penny underneath the tongue. And do the whole thing.

1:56:18Joe Brady:Concussion, no baseline either. They just take the concussion test, and then you have the baseline itself for someone who is too old. And then that is their baseline.

1:56:27Pat McAfee:So we're just testing against old.

1:56:28Joe Brady:It's just one test against old, yeah.

1:56:31Pat McAfee:And we're not saying it's just the olds. We think there's a lot of youngs that don't know ball either. Yeah. Kind of a part of the whole thing. It's just, I don't know, we'll find out in 10 years. It took a lot of heat for saying what I said, but I think it's becoming more and more evident every single time. You're allowed to love ball. You're allowed to love the Hall of Fame. You're allowed to think like the pro football Hall of Fame is awesome. You're allowed to think like these are good things. You don't have to think like. I am the Hall of Fame. Some people have got these God complexes, it feels like, that have been covering sports for a while.

1:57:02I mean, the Hall of Famers should be the ones voting. And maybe those guys don't want to do it because it's kind of like, hey, that's not my place to say it.

1:57:09Pat McAfee:The Hall of Famers who know ball, though, because there are some Hall of Famers who are probably just fishing for ball of fall. Exactly. And you could do the same cutoff where it's whatever. But those guys, how many people came out and said, this is a travesty that Bill's not in? Like, they take it very seriously. Obviously, for them, it is still, it's the crowning achievement in a career that you gave your life for. Like, they should be the ones who kind of have a say to who joins them. Jimmy Johnson says he's not going. Yeah. Fuck it. I'm done with it. Got a chartered jet. Had one. Fucking cancel it.

1:57:44Pat McAfee:Mm-hmm. That's incredible. I mean, I guess you have to be very diligent on your scheduling whenever you're a coach. So him scheduling that plane already for Hall of Fame weekend, incredible rates. Genius. I bet he got incredible rates. I'm going to lock in the gas prices now for that flight. That's a long way where he's at. That's way down there. South Florida is so far down there. You forget how long Florida is as you're flying. It's like, holy shit, oh, yeah, I'm going to the Caribbean. I forgot about that. I'm going now. And Jimmy's like, yeah, I'm fucking living in it. Loving it. That is what I'm doing out here.

1:58:17Pat McAfee:I lock myself in one of my little island rooms, four TVs. don't come in here. I'm going to go get some food. I'm going to come back. So is he a free agent right now? TV free agent? I don't think so. Technically, yes. But I think he is officially fucking... You know what? I'll pop on. Do one of these from time to time. Other than that, don't fucking contact me. Don't call me. I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want for the rest of my life. I want to let him know, and I think we all agree with this, and I hope he was told this by people around him. That was an incredible performance yesterday. Yeah.

1:58:48Pat McAfee:Job well done. Live on air like that. 82. I mean, I'm 38, and there's some days where it's like, can't piece together what I want to say, especially if there's a little emotion behind it, which he certainly had. And he just nailed it. That's why he's a goat. Yeah. That's why he's a goat. Speaking of goat conversation, let's go to basketball. LeBron was crying last night. Yeah. LeBron and the Lakers play against Cleveland Cavaliers. Cavaliers get a huge win. Might be LeBron's last time playing in Cleveland as they ran a tribute video on the Jumbotron. it seemed like the moment caught up with LeBron you know and maybe this is the last time he gets a chance to accept his flowers from the city in which he grew up near and the city in which he literally saved and brought a championship to and brought the entire state to celebrate in Cleveland so I appreciated seeing this emotional moment for LeBron the LeBron haters immediately go this is all fake this guy's acting right here and I would like to say to those people you have no idea what it would be like to watch a video from an organization telling you thank you so much for saving our entire city.

1:59:48Pat McAfee:LeBron might have got choked up last night, and I think for good reason, understanding and looking back as his career kind of hits the sunset portion of this, that he'd done pretty good. There's a lot of heat on him on a lot of occasions, obviously a lot of spotlight. He's brought a lot upon himself, I think, with things that he's done and said and how things have gone, but he's certainly been one of the greatest, if not the greatest basketball player of all time. And a nice human moment kind of taking it in, saying, maybe I did do good around here. is a cool thing for me to see, AJ. I like this a lot out of LeBron.

2:00:19Pat McAfee:Didn't love that we were wearing two different color shoes. Feels like that's probably what the future is, I guess. But nonetheless, I appreciated what happened last night with LeBron and Cleveland.

2:00:27Joe Brady:Yeah, I did too. I mean, I happened to turn this game on right as it was starting to get to watch all this. I know Cleveland ended up getting the victory. But yeah, like how could you not? How could you not get emotional if you're LeBron sitting there? They showed like, they had a little graphic of him as a high schooler, him young and all throughout his NBA career, different teams and everything. I watched LeBron play in high school. I went and watched him play at University of Dayton Arena, watched him almost rip the hoop out of the ground. Watching him dunk as a 17, 18-year-old kid was something special.

2:00:58Joe Brady:The fact that he's still playing the NBA, that's absolutely wild. He should. He should soak it up. He should enjoy this time.

2:01:04Pat McAfee:Some people say LeBron's not a human. Had a human moment last night, Foxy, and now everybody wants to attack him for it.

2:01:09Joe Brady:I don't know why everyone has to do

2:01:11Pat McAfee:that i mean cleveland in my lifetime and probably in all of your lifetimes has never won a single thing in any sport except for when lebron brought them that title i'm sure he had so much emotions i mean his son is there in the building on the team and gets to watch that with him it was a special moment i'm happy for lebron if this is his last season he deserves all this that every single arena he plays in this year i think not only brawny there watching his mom was there because he mentioned how my mom gets to see her son and her grandson play for the same team. There was Bronny Chance towards the end of that game.

2:01:45Pat McAfee:We want Bronny. He goes in, goes unconscious, gets a steal and a dunk, step back three. Bronny goes crazy. The place goes nuts. I bet you last night was a special night for the James family, even though they weren't able to get a win. And then afterwards, a guy on the Cavs, I don't know his name. I'm sure I'm supposed to. I think Jalen Tyson. There it is. Jalen Tyson says, this is Donovan Mitchell's city or whatever. It's like, well, if LeBron wants it to be his, though, that'll be like that. But I do respect Spider and everything he has done for Cleveland. So special night, long night, and the Cavs are all the way back.

2:02:20Joe Brady:Cavs again, really good. Not like last year. They're still in it. They're still one of the teams in the East, you would assume, is going to be there in the Final Four of the Eastern Conference. But not like last year. Last year they went on, like, historic run. Until who? inevitably until they played the Indiana Pacers, but they are not like they were last year.

2:02:43Joe Brady:The Pacers.

2:02:44Pat McAfee:We're back next year. What's going on this year? Tyrese ain't playing.

2:02:48Joe Brady:Frickin' Matthias Buzelas dropped 25 in their face last night. That's what's going on this year.

2:02:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, but I saw Nembhardt celebrating the other day. We got a big comeback.

2:02:56Joe Brady:Oh, yeah, and I believe Carlisle is closing in. He got it already. He got it already. Okay, boom. There you go. And Tyrese just posted an updated video. He looks really good right now. Is he dunking or what's he doing?

2:03:07Pat McAfee:It sure looks like he's dunking, he's shooting, he's traveling. I have the whole thing. Traveling? No, he dribbles good. Traveling with the team is what I was going to say. And then right when it came out of my mouth, I realized, yeah, no, he's not traveling because he doesn't do that. No, Eurostep is weird. Some of them, yeah. I'm all over the place.

2:03:22Joe Brady:Yeah, it is weird. Tatum travels with the team. Like, it's interesting. I wonder if Tyrese is a couple weeks away from traveling with the team. Okay, so Tatum now.

2:03:31Pat McAfee:there was reports that he was going to potentially make it back for the season. Now there's another report coming out that he's not going to.

2:03:36Joe Brady:I think it's one of those things where it's like, hey, I don't know if anybody's seen my ex-account in a while, so I'm going to say this. I believe he just gave an interview and said, if and when I come back this season, maybe some people, there it is. Chris B. Haynes might have taken that as, yeah, he's not coming back, even though he finishes it with final decision has yet to be determined. I could see him not coming back if they make the playoffs. and then he's back for the playoffs. I'm not sure if that would account for him making it back for the season itself, but because of where the Celtics are, like the initial thought was, hey, if they're the seven or eight seed and then Tatum comes back and kind of pushes them into the playoffs without the play-in game, then maybe he's back.

2:04:18Joe Brady:I know Tony Diggs agrees with Chris B. Haynes, but from the horse's math was if and when was his quote. I mean, if. He said if. Well, you know, I think it's a lot of stuff. So I don't think it's 100%.

2:04:30Pat McAfee:Remember, Aaron Rodgers is going to come back if the Jets ran on it. Jets were never going to be in.

2:04:35Joe Brady:No.

2:04:35Pat McAfee:Did you hear what happened with the Jets over there, allegedly?

2:04:39Joe Brady:What, the coaching situation? Yeah. What's going on?

2:04:41Pat McAfee:Well, allegedly there was a potential hire and then a plane trip and then a, hey, it ain't going to be like you think it's going to be. Well, I ain't doing that. All right, we'll get the hell out. Dead. So Aaron Glenn, the way he operates is certainly in a fashion of which it is fascinating. Yeah. It's a fashion. He should enjoy this year. Aaron Glenn? Yeah, because he's going to get fucking fired after this year. So he should enjoy it. So what happened here, Bruce? So Bruce is on, as people know, this particular program, whenever you get a microphone or you get in the building, there are certain narratives that you're certainly trying to push.

2:05:16Pat McAfee:There are certain narratives that you're trying to push. Bruce's big one is, yeah, the Giants haven't been great. We're about to be good, but we're nowhere near the ass level of the New York Jets. Let's make sure we remember that. So I do get a lot of reminders from Bruce about, hey, remember the Jets. Hey, the Jets just did this new thing that's terrible. Let's go ahead and remember that. This one with Wink, seemingly I did not notice, but this does feel like a pretty big defining moment of what Aaron Glenn and his entire operation over there with the Jets is. What exactly happened, Bruce?

2:05:45Joe Brady:Yeah, I would say that I'm exposed to the Jets a lot. I hear a lot of Jets talk, a lot of Jets scuttle, but really the Aaron Glenn thing, he's been like, you know, you got to trust me. You got to trust the process while we lose all these games. And then, yeah, this is the latest Wink Martindale flies up to Floral Park. He he's calling his staff. He's saying, Hey, look, we're back in the NFL. We're going to go run the jets defense. He gets all the way there. And then Aaron Glenn says, no, actually I'm calling the defensive plays. You're just going to be, you know, defensive coordinator in, in name sort of helping, uh, scheme it up and all and everything like that.

2:06:19Joe Brady:So Wink says, fuck that. I'm out of here. He bails. Uh, and now I, They got a new young D.C. who will not be calling plays. Aaron Glenn will be calling plays. But really the overall narrative is he's doing this whole trust me, we're building, we're building, trust the process type thing. But they fired nine coaches. He had an O.C. He was keeping his O.C. They bring in Frank Reich or are close to bringing in Frank Reich as sort of that senior offensive consultant new O.C., but we're keeping our O.C. Then they fire that O.C. or he says, screw this, I'm out of here. So it's all a big mess. New York is not happy about it.

2:06:53Joe Brady:It's that and the New York Rangers can't win a ball game or a hockey game, rather. Oh, the Rangers stink?

2:06:59Pat McAfee:That's crazy.

2:07:00Joe Brady:They're absolutely horrible.

2:07:01Pat McAfee:Well, what about the bread man? The bread man's not doing it. What about the big Eiffel? Red Bee. Red Bee.

2:07:06Joe Brady:They're actually sitting the bread man. Yeah, the bread man is getting ready to trade him. Panini. He's played his last game. People are saying he's coming to Boston. There are rumblings of the bread man and the pasta man. A little pasta and bread dinner? Who wants it? Oh, carbs on carbs on carbs.

2:07:20Pat McAfee:Boom. Oh, my God. That's a good time. So the Jets suck. They fired basically everyone off. I mean, it sounds like a communication issue with me. Yeah, Aaron, you're saying? Yeah, because Aaron Glenn has Aaron Rodgers fly from California all the way over there. And Aaron has internet in his phone, in the plane, I think could have been told at any moment, like, hey, waste of gas, waste of time, waste of energy. Aaron gets in there, sits down, five minutes. I don't want you. Okay? It's over. All right. I'm going to get out of here then. I'm going to leave, and I'm done with the Jets. Wink flies in.

2:07:53Pat McAfee:I'm going to be D.C. Lance gets all the way there. That's an interesting thing to happen in the NFL, H. That's an interesting thing to happen in the NFL.

2:08:01Joe Brady:Especially, like, you don't bring in Wink Martindale to be your D.C. that doesn't call the defense. Like, we all, I think we know that. Like, that's not going to work. So, the fact that they had the miscommunication before he got there, like, that could have just been, that could have been a couple texts. Like, Aaron going, hey, Wink, just let me know, buddy. I'm calling the defense. Okay, cool. And he sends him a big, you know, flicker off emoji, you know, middle finger emoji or something. I thought it would be a thumbs up.

2:08:25Pat McAfee:Thanks for telling me before I hop on this plane and fly all the way over there.

2:08:29Joe Brady:Maybe both. Maybe thumbs up and then middle finger. Like, hey, cool. I appreciate you getting me before I get there, but also, no. I'm not doing it. Fascinating stuff over there for the Jets. Yeah, they think they're lucky stars anytime something comes out about the Browns. Because the Browns take the kind of the brunt of, hey, this is the worst franchise in the NFL. But the Jets are sitting dead red as the biggest shit show. Not to mention they have four first-round picks over the first two years. So Aaron Glenn and his guy, Mugi, Bougie, whatever he sucks to, those two are going to make two of the picks this year, and then someone else is going to make two of the picks next year.

2:09:05Pat McAfee:They'll get them right. They'll get them right. Which I do believe. Justin Fields. Everybody forgets about that. They got these picks. They'll be able to make the right decision. They'll be able to figure it out. It's like they've already made a quarterback decision. This last offseason they did. They paid Justin Fields like$40 million. Yeah. They gave him a lot of money. Pay Garrett. They made a decision on a quarterback already. It obviously did not work. The owner came out in the middle of the season and was like, we fucking can't play football on the offense. He said, have you seen this guy?

2:09:32Pat McAfee:He can't complete a pass. How the fuck does that work? I have no idea. I wish I could create some sort of shot to give him that he can complete a fucking pass. I can't. That's what Johnson & Johnson, he literally came out and said that. It's like that was the quarterback they picked, though, and paid him much more than everybody else was willing to pay him. So they've already made a decision to quarterback. It has failed. Nine coaches gone. Who picked the coaches? So you made decisions there too. There's already been a lot of decisions that have already been made, but future decisions will be good.

2:09:58Pat McAfee:Maybe you learn from these. Apparently, and I apologize if my brain missed this, they made a very disrespectful offer to John Gruden to be on the team in some sort of fashion. What do you mean? I don't. No, that was disrespectful.

2:10:13Joe Brady:I guess John Gruden just got a call about coaching for the Jets, and he was like, I would rather hang myself from my thumbs than put on a Jets logo.

2:10:24Pat McAfee:He could do that too with how strong he is. I thought I saw a Portnoy tweet that he knew what the offer was and it was very disrespectful or something like that. Portnoy, Patriots fan, but certainly tight with Gruden. Yeah. So I assume he did get a piece of information from Gruden that said like, I wasn't going to do that, man. Yeah, right. Yeah. Who's going to give Gruden just the keys? Somebody's going to. Somebody should. Somebody's going to. We had 10 openings. We still have a couple, I guess.

2:10:50Joe Brady:Or college. Some forward-thinking AD that wants to bring some juice to their college program.

2:10:57Pat McAfee:See, I thought he was going to be a guarantee for one of those gigs. I did. I was pretty loud early. I was on college game day like week six, I guess, after the James Franklin thing. I was like, who's going to get hired? I'm like, John Gruden? Is John Gruden still out there? Is he still giving speeches to all these college fucking teams and watching all the film? And has he now become an internet sensation, basically, which isn't that a part of recruiting and everything? John Gruden feels like the guy who's going to get a gig. Oh, really? John Gruden, a good one. Okay. I think John Gruden's going to get a gig.

2:11:25Pat McAfee:I really believed it.

2:11:28Joe Brady:I still do.

2:11:29Pat McAfee:When? Next year? Can we just say we're early?

2:11:32Joe Brady:Yeah, I don't know. Not wrong, just early.

2:11:34Pat McAfee:Man.

2:11:34Joe Brady:Because we're coaching with the Hula Bowl? What do you coach? We coach one of the bowls.

2:11:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, and they won.

2:11:39Joe Brady:Of course. Easily.

2:11:40Pat McAfee:Age, I don't know if you know, the little wrestling voodoo doll is still here.

2:11:44Joe Brady:Oh, where is he? Right there. Oh, no, it's evening. It's so creepy, his arms up like that. Yeah.

2:11:49Pat McAfee:I don't know if that's where he's going to live. Should have put him in the chair today if no one's in there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was. What's the name? Hawk? What is his name? He has no name. Hawkeye Wrestling Club, HWC. Sure. Slenderman. Pick. Call him HWC. Maybe we call him the IWC for Iowa Wrestling Club. No, we're not going to do that because I know what that stands for. No, the IWC. No, no, no, no, no. We're not going to fucking do that because I know what that stands for. And I did not want that connotation associated with anything that has to do with Iowa wrestling or Iowa athletics.

2:12:23What are you talking about? Explain a little bit. You're talking about the internet wrestling community, which, you know, Bone is basically like the fucking president and CEO of. Oh, no.

2:12:31Pat McAfee:We know who the Lord is. Well, we do. But all I'm saying is I don't want that associated with this in any regard, any shape or form. They're a passionate bunch. Sure. That ain't his fucking name. You know what? You can just call him fucking Gable or DG.

2:12:52Joe Brady:What about MC Hunk? I don't hate that. Oh, I got it. I don't hate that at all.

2:12:58Pat McAfee:Yeah, maybe. Magnet Chick Hunk. Yeah. There's a chance. That's a Royal Rumble. AJ, you have any early predictions on who's going to win? Maybe Logan. Logan looks good. He does.

2:13:10Joe Brady:Logan looks really good on here. You're right. Logan looks jacked. He seems to be very confident right now and feeling pretty good about where he's at physically and mentally. So I don't know how you don't. He won't take on CM Punk. Is CM Punk in the Rumble? Is that him I see right there in the middle?

2:13:25Pat McAfee:CM Punk's champ, right? So I don't have a... Probably not because don't you win the Rumble to get the right to wrap. CM Punk is champ. CM Punk is champion. In what world? That WWE Universe, he's the champion. That's so gross, dude. What? Are you the most feared wrestler in the organization? You don't want these hands, bitch. We just watched the 99 and 01 rumbles yesterday. We did. In their entireties. Woo! And you see those guys. Who was it? All the goats. Then you see Punk. Scotty Tuhati. Steve Blackman. Yeah. The Oddities. Big Boss Man. You start naming off the names, it's everybody. And obviously Stone Cold Steve Austin.

2:14:02Pat McAfee:Right! And that 1999 one, you would have never guessed who won that at the end. A guy went to the hospital. Stone Cold Steve Austin went to the hospital after the Royal Rumble began because he got clipped in a bathroom as he was chasing Vince McMahon into the bathroom. And he ended up getting in an ambulance, getting wheeled out of there. He comes back to return. He almost wins it.

2:14:23Joe Brady:Crazy.

2:14:24Pat McAfee:Almost wins the whole thing. But the hospital came back. Yeah. Drove the ambulance back. Had a bounty on his head. That's Steve. That's in the middle of the Rumble. And then, obviously, he's about to take Vince out. Vince McMahon's one of the last. Vince McMahon was second or first entrant. Him and Stone Cold just beat the hell out of each other. They leave. They go into the arena. It was a trap. Vince McMahon took Stone Cold right into the bathroom. He goes to the hospital. Vince comes back later. He gets in the arena. It's just him. Holy hell, Vince McMahon won the Royal Rumble. I was never obviously eliminated.

2:14:58Pat McAfee:What do you think this is? Well, ambulance comes. He goes in. He's about to kick some wholesale ass. Guess who comes out? Who? Dwayne Johnson. Dwayne Johnson comes out he's guess what corporate salad he starts jostling with Stone Cold on the outside Vince flips him Vince McMahon wins the 1999 Royal Rumble we watched that yesterday in its entirety and I'll tell you what there's some good spots in there Al Snow came out started fucking wheeling what does everybody want head Head! Do you remember that? What does everybody need? Head! Those are the days.

2:15:40Joe Brady:I need to know the writing room. Because I watched the, what's it called again? Unscripted, the Netflix show. In this business. There was no writing back then. They just wrestled. Exactly. If they had a writing room, though, and Vince said, here we go, how about Rumble Champ, and he just points straight at me. There was no writing room until Cena came along. You think anyone said no? You think anyone's like, Vince, I don't know. You think anyone had any push? Me.

2:16:03Pat McAfee:And then Stone goes, all right, who are you kicking out last, kid? You. All right. That'll be good business, kid. We're going to send you to the hospital in the middle of this thing. Genius. Just all of it. As you start watching it come together. Fire extinguishers. Oh, early. So good. I mean, there's a lot of misses, obviously, whenever you're doing weekly episodic television and you have to fill and fill and figure things out. But they were not scared to take some swings. No. They were not scared. Rarely missed. What was Bloom's name? Prince Albert who is that? they're so creative he was a large man with a bald head and he had piercings on his head what a great name

2:16:47Joe Brady:what a good time in wrestling exactly

2:16:51Pat McAfee:we watched it it was a trip I was 12 years old then that time is when I was introduced to it all and you're just watching this was a completely different experience from anything else that had to be on television. And it captivated the world. Yeah. I still remember, like, I could, you know, when it was, like, counting down, it's like, oh, baby, here comes take. Like, I still remember when they were fucking coming out. Oh, 2001, Kane was a problem. Yeah, big red machine. Drew Carey. Like, I can still remember Drew Carey. Drew Carey? Yeah. Oh, he eliminated the Hardys without even touching them.

2:17:24Joe Brady:Drew Carey, the guy that's taking pictures for the soccer team.

2:17:27Pat McAfee:Cleveland Rocks, yeah, Price is Right. Yeah. Yeah, he eliminated the Hardys without even touching them. Yep. And then here comes the big red machine. Kane comes out. Drew Carey tries to throw him a couple dollars. Hey, don't do it. Obviously, you know, he almost gets chokeslammed. Dong. Yep. Out comes Take, and then Drew Carey's like, you know what? I don't want any part of this. And he eliminates himself. So then Taker and Kane staring each other down. Raising hell. About to get after it. Brothers of destruction here. Okay, eye to eye. This is a badass Undertaker, not a emo Undertaker. I mean, it's a real problem.

2:17:59Pat McAfee:and Kane strapped up. And then that clock, five, four, three, two, one. Scotty Too Hard, he comes walking out. He walks down. Great hair. And they just fucking plant him through the ring five times. Beat the shit out of him real quick. And run the fuck out. Just the thought of it all, how it comes together after we watch Unreal. It's like, wow, some good ideas, a lot of ideas. what's the Royal Rumble going to be? Who's going to come out of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia with an opportunity to title at WrestleMania? Who's going to have all the cards after the men's and women's Royal Rumbles? Tomorrow, 2 p.m.

2:18:44Pat McAfee:Eastern on ESPN's platform. Is that Pantos? Saturday, 2 p.m. Eastern on ESPN's platform. What is it? ESPN what? Unlimited, I believe. I don't know if we've got it right one time. This thing will be available on Disney Plus? That I don't know. I think it will be. This thing will be available on ESPN Plus? See, I think that's where it gets a little bit tricky. I think if you have ESPN Plus, that's not going to qualify you for the Rumble. You've got to have ESPN Plus, and then there's also two subdivisions of ESPN Plus. ESPN Unlimited is kind of the all-encompassing package, which I believe is what you need to have in order to watch the Rumble.

2:19:23Joe Brady:And there's ESPN Special Unlimited, which is even higher than Unlimited.

2:19:28Pat McAfee:What do I get, access to Turnbuckle? Yeah.

2:19:31Joe Brady:Turnbuckle cam. Turnbuckle cam. I mean, shit, you might be able to email Bob Iger with that unlimited post. I just know the Australian Open fans have been fucking pissed about how this whole gimmick works.

2:19:46Pat McAfee:So I'm thinking that there might be some obstacles to find where this is. A thousand percent. Yeah, anytime something goes to a new platform, for instance, Paramount just announced that they got 1 million new subscribers from the UFC thing. That'd be a success. I think that would be considered a success. But to my surprise, it wasn't that difficult to get on Paramount. Now, I couldn't find it. I had to go through Prime to get to it. But once I found it, I got on it. It's like, okay, they clearly have to work some things out here. They're going to have to figure it out. But getting to it, I was able to find it.

2:20:16Pat McAfee:I think with this ESPN thing, ESPN. Unlimited. I think people are having a tough time finding it. I think they don't know exactly where they are, if they qualify for it or not. In wrestling, people are not going to be pumped if the Royal Rumble coverage is impossible to find. I think that is a potential issue, but that's always new platform stuff. Yeah, but when the YouTube TV ESPN dispute was happening and you had to have the ESPN Unlimited or whatever to watch football games, it was very, very hard. But I just looked it up. You can watch it on ESPN Plus Unlimited, which is part of the Disney Plus, Hulu, and ESPN Plus bundle, but is not on the standard Disney Plus content library, which all makes sense.

2:20:58Pat McAfee:So you just need to put it on.

2:21:00Joe Brady:Okay, we don't have any - So you got upcharge through like the - So I have ESPN Plus and all that. I go on that app and then I've got to go and like I get upcharged to get unlimited, I guess. I probably don't have that. Maybe I do, I don't know.

2:21:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, but shouldn't this just be an easy thing that pops up and says, hey, this is what it's going to take to get this. Just click here, yeah. Get rid of the fucking options. We don't need three separate things. hey, this is the price it costs. You pay this. You get everything on here. John Taffer. Some of these menus have too many options. Just let us know what we need. Hey, are you a WWE person? Boom. This is what you're going to need, whether you like it or not. If you don't like it, cool. But at least you know this is where it's at. As opposed to, oh, I got to do this now. I got to do this now.

2:21:37Pat McAfee:Because everybody hates having to match QR code, do the entire thing. And people resent it. They resent the entire operation because they think to themselves, oh, you guys should have this figured out. You guys should have this figured out. Very big entities. So hopefully that doesn't happen with the Royal Rumble. So it's on ESPN Unlimited. Yeah. Is it? I mean, that would be my assumption, is that it's on ESPN Unlimited. See, we should know this. But also on that note, new streaming platform, we're going to have to work through.

2:22:06Joe Brady:What's the graphics say? What's the graphics say? You guys built the graphics.

2:22:09Pat McAfee:The E there, I think, is the thing, but it doesn't say the...

2:22:12Joe Brady:When I see ESPN, I think, like, okay, I can go to... If you're an old school person, you have like a channel guide, I go to ESPN. Boom. It's there.

2:22:20Pat McAfee:Yeah. Good luck with that. I think it'll work. Let's make sure we'll find it. It's a Royal Rumble. You're going to want to see it. Also, long matches. So if you get into a little bit of a trying to figure out how to get it, don't give up. It's still on the other side. Okay. It's still on the other side. I thought what Paramount did after the fights, clips from the fights, knockouts from the fights, individual fights, recaps of the fights, all free. which is good because it used to not have that. Once you got to the fight, the product was really good. I've also never had their app. I just, like Connor said, and kind of like you do with Amazon, I just bought it through Apple TV.

2:22:56So it's just like the Apple TV interface and it's great on there. But I had to download the app to watch the fights and I was like, oh shit, this app is terrific. Pretty easy. I live on the Paramount Plus app. And they got a lot of shit. A lot. That's the other big thing. It's like, yeah, you're paying for that, but their movie library is huge. Top Gun. Bunch of TV shows.

2:23:18Joe Brady:All the shows. Tulsa King, Mission Impossible. They got a bunch of kids TV shows. Landman. Because it's got all the Nickelodeon stuff, too.

2:23:26Pat McAfee:Feels like they're doing what Netflix did there a few years back, where they're spending a lot of money on content, and they're including live sports into that. Yeah. Which is a smart. Because they have CBS, too. So if you're in an area where you can't get to it, you could have watched the playoff games through Paramount+. And now Paramount Plus still has to do some tinkering with the UFC. Like, they're still going to have to figure it out. So ESPN, obviously, it's going to be another opportunity to figure out the WWE relationship and the new platform. Because WWE used to have its own network.

2:23:54Pat McAfee:Then they saw their network to Peacock. And then WWE Network's on Peacock. Then they go to Netflix. And then now, so it's like there's always some sort of transition that happens when these business decisions are made because obviously WWE brings a very passionate fan base and a lot of content available. but the transition to new streaming platforms is always something in every sport. Football, it happens. UFC, it happens. Wrestling, it happens. And it's like, it's not always on the user side. No. No. Yeah. Usually it's on like, Hey, you guys got to figure this out a little bit. Hopefully they have that ready for the Royal Rumble because it's going to be spectacular on Saturday.

2:24:26Pat McAfee:All right. Let's get the hell out of here, boys. We're back tomorrow for a nice feel good Friday.

2:24:29Joe Brady:It's Superbowl season age. Let's go baby. I can't wait. I saw a glimmer of the little guy, the little tiny guy and that wide shot. It's very creepy. If I think Sharks showing up tomorrow and has different holes cut into it, then you send Bill out of there.

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