PMS 2.0 1501 - Live From Radio Row in San Francisco for Super Bowl LX with Drew 2026 Pro Football Hall of Fame Class David Tepper, Ari Emanuel, Mark Shapiro, Puka Nacua, Fernando Mendoza, George Kittle, Kyle Van Noy, and Gabriel Morency

9:12Puka Nacua:That's why you're a first ballader.

9:14Pat McAfee:That makes sense. $25 ,000 for each of you to give back to a youth football program from us and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, so we're lucky to do that. There will be three lifelines that will only be used once in totality. In totality. Not everybody gets to use it. And then there's a double Don that you guys will each use one time throughout the show or throughout the game that can double your points. You guys ready to go?

9:34Luke Kuechly:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

9:35Pat McAfee:You guys ready?

9:36Luke Kuechly:You bet.

9:38Pat McAfee:We need these microphones on, I do believe. Nice. Here we go. Let's get to the first question, shall we? Here we go.

9:45Puka Nacua:For 100 points, can't hit until I finish. Wait, wait, can I say something real quick? Hold on. Take it down. Take it down.

9:52Luke Kuechly:What the hell? We would like to double this. Already? You have zero points. No, no. I thought we doubled how much it's worth. We double our point value. Yes. Okay, never mind. No, good clarity, though. That was not anything. See, I would have never thought like that.

10:06Puka Nacua:The Hattie play. He almost doubled. He almost doubled. I was zero.

10:10Pat McAfee:That would have been a bad decision. That would have been a something. You should have let him do it. I know, I know, I know. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. You cannot double this one.

10:17Luke Kuechly:Okay.

10:19Pat McAfee:You cannot hit the thing, even though all of you saw the question, until I final word right here, okay?

10:25Ari Emanuel:All right.

10:26Pat McAfee:First question of the Hall of Fame faceoff. Who was the last quarterback to win the Super Bowl in the final game of his career. Okay, very confident. Answer is? Peyton Manning. Okay, do you believe that is correct or would you like to say? Peyton Manning. Do you think that's correct?

10:45Adam Vinatieri:It's okay if you do it.

10:47AJ Hawk:I believe it's correct.

10:48Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, I think you guys agree with that? Yeah. Okay, good. Ladies and gentlemen, the answer is?

10:52Puka Nacua:Bo! Peyton Manning! Bo! Thank you. Can you do me like that?

10:57Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, sorry, it's first question. That was messed up.

11:00Puka Nacua:Oh, my God, I don't like that.

11:02Luke Kuechly:That's the first question. I get it. Yeah, I don't like that that happened.

11:05Puka Nacua:And honestly, honestly, that was.

11:08Luke Kuechly:That was 10 years ago. It was a tough day.

11:10Puka Nacua:That was rude of a, today's a good day. Today's a good day. We're kind of bringing it full circle.

11:14Pat McAfee:And look, you've got 100 points for that.

11:15Puka Nacua:There we go. We'll take that.

11:16Pat McAfee:All right, if you can reset this, let's get to question number two of the Hall of Fame face of 100 to nothing. Would you like, who is the oldest player to score a TD in Super Bowl history? Oh, this one might be a little bit of a conundrum for the Hall of Famers. These four guys will obviously get a gold jacket here later in the offseason as we kick off next year. Ba-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, hold on. Hold the phone. Okay.

11:44Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, you can hit that. You got to hit that. Okay. What would you guys like?

11:47Puka Nacua:I'd like to phone a friend.

11:49Adam Vinatieri:You'd like to phone a friend of the program. Wow.

11:50Puka Nacua:AQ. No, no, no, no. That's not how this goes.

11:54Pat McAfee:It is a surprise friend of the program. Okay, Larry, so we will be calling somebody from our orbit who I do think will have the answer. Now, who could that possibly be? Boys, it could be literally a litany of anybody. Anybody.

12:08David Tepper:Schefter. Sure, anybody but Dano. No, but it could be Dano. Could be Dano, though. Hopefully not.

12:14Adam Vinatieri:It could be Dan Orlovsky.

12:15Pat McAfee:Everybody needs to understand that this could be Dan Orlovsky here. Okay, let's go ahead and do the friend of the program. It could be anybody. Somebody that we know. Somebody that is potentially a big old football brainer. Are they going to answer? Yep, they are. See, countdown. It's almost like we had to set up. Oh!

12:35Puka Nacua:Holy! Holy hell! Coach! Holy shit! Coach, can you hear us?

12:45Luke Kuechly:I got you.

12:46Adam Vinatieri:I got you loud and clear. Thank you so much for joining us, Coach. I don't know if you see the boys here.

12:51Fernando Mendoza:obviously uh they're all massive i'll tell you that's a great group the five of you guys look great and honestly adam you know made so many great plays for me but he was a thorn in my side too so like all you guys killed me at one point or another but uh congratulations to the four hall of fame selections there and uh always great to be on with you pat so thanks for the opportunity

13:15Pat McAfee:what can i do for you hey we love you coach we love you coach and uh obviously if these guys weren't such big thorns in your side maybe you'd be up here maybe you win a couple games coach okay Larry Fitzgerald and Adam Vinatieri are calling you for assistance uh coach if you could give us the answer to this question it's for a hundred points who is the oldest player to score a touchdown in Super Bowl history. Do you know that answer, Coach?

13:48Fernando Mendoza:You know, did Peyton Manning score on a quarterback sneak? I don't think so.

13:58Fernando Mendoza:I'm going to go with Jerry Rice.

13:59Adam Vinatieri:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, okay. So, what, I don't, do we, do we don't have to hit follow-ups on that? Like, what team and all that shit? No, no, no, no. Just player. Are you going with Jerry Rice? Do you trust Coach Belichick? I trust him with my life, yo.

14:13Luke Kuechly:How about you, Vinatieri? Absolutely. All the trust in the world in Coach, so for sure. If he says it's Jerry, it's Jerry. The answer is Jerry Rice.

14:25Puka Nacua:Four years old.

14:27Pat McAfee:Coach, you know Cole. That's incredible. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate you, and have an incredible Super Bowl weekend, Coach.

14:34Fernando Mendoza:All right, awesome. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Congrats, everybody.

14:37Pat McAfee:Coach, I don't want to hammer it home, but maybe next year you get to play this game. Maybe. Maybe. We love you, coach. See you later, man. Okay. Yeah, see you.

14:47Puka Nacua:That's awesome. That's pretty great. That's right. Yeah. Didn't see that coming.

14:52Luke Kuechly:That was good.

14:54Puka Nacua:I was surprised.

14:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, I felt pretty good about it. Yeah, I felt pretty good about it. Okay, let's go to the - Let's go to the - Get him on the back. That was literally - Yeah. Yeah, that was good. Here's our question. Here we go for 100 points. What is the only franchise to win a Super Bowl in four different decades? Now, obviously,$25 ,000 donation for each Hall of Famer up here to a youth football coach.

15:18Luke Kuechly:Pat, what if we go ask the boys? Okay,

15:22Pat McAfee:the second lifeline will be used here. Drew Brees and Lou Keekly would like to ask the boys. They will probably huddle. Why do you have faith in the boys, Drew and Lou?

15:30Luke Kuechly:Got a lot of defensive guys right behind me. We got D-Bud, we got A.J. Hawk, and then we start to get a little bit offensive over there. I'm going to lean on this side of the group right here. I don't know if Drew likes that, but I'm comfortable over here. If you add up the brain power all together collectively, it's enough. I like that. I'm not so sure, Drew.

15:48Pat McAfee:That's why your first ballot, Drew Brees. I don't know. Okay, boys, I don't know who's going to be the speaker of the group back there. Okay, D-Buck will be the speaker of the group. He's on his own journey right now. What is the only franchise to win a Super Bowl in four different decades? Darius J. Butler from the crew.

16:04AQ Shipley:We all talked about it. We obviously know the past. They were dominant for a couple decades. Niners, Cowboys, the New York football giants is who we're going to go with.

16:15Pat McAfee:Wow. Wow. That would be out of nowhere. How do you feel about it? I like it. I like it a lot. Luke? Strong.

16:21Luke Kuechly:He's a defensive guy. He knows it.

16:22Pat McAfee:So you're going with the answer. Absolutely. Would you have guessed that if it wasn't for the boys?

16:26Luke Kuechly:No, that was not the first one that popped in my head. What was your thought? It was Cowboys, Steelers. Thank you. It was all the ones who had won four or five.

16:34Pat McAfee:Steelers fan back there got pretty geeked up that you said that.

16:36Luke Kuechly:How about you? We had Niners in there too, but obviously that's not the case. We're gonna go with D-Bot, we're gonna go with the Giants. Answer is, the Giants.

16:50Pat McAfee:I did not expect that, especially if you would have seen our yesterday. What happened? In the last night. I didn't expect that out of you guys. We got legends up, we gotta show up. I mean, you guys were doing your thing last night on the stage. We were on our own stage last night. He was at about 70 ,000 feet where we were last night. You're who with the Owls, Pat. Jeez. Exactly. I'm telling you, Hall of Fame night, dude. Hall of Fame. All right, you guys, you're down a hundred, okay? The only lifeline that is left is to ask the chat. And once again, we will have somebody report from the chat.

17:21Pat McAfee:Excited for the chat to showcase their football brains, but that is the only lifeline left. Both of you still have the double down that you're only allowed to use once. It is 200 to 100. We're talking bronze bus over gold jackets. Next question in the Hall of Fame faceoffice. Adam Vinatieri totaled 49 points in the 2006 postseason, breaking whose record for most in a single postseason all time? Uh-oh, Vinny, it feels like you should know this,

17:48Puka Nacua:but you said, I got to the top of the mountain and I didn't look at who I was stepping on.

17:54Pat McAfee:Any thoughts? Lou Keekly's breaking it down word by word as if there's a clue in between the sentences. Could be. Boys in the back, do you know this answer?

18:03David Tepper:Yeah, I think we all have a pretty good feel for it. That's cuz you guys read the answers.

18:07Pat McAfee:Maybe. Yeah. Adam, I would like to say your shoes are very cool. I don't know if it's gonna help you with this answer.

18:14Luke Kuechly:It's not gonna help this at all. Or if the Terrell Bates is. That's a good question.

18:19Pat McAfee:You guys aren't sure over here, it feels like. Sounds like a good idea. There's not a lot of sure anywhere. Wow. It's a good question. It feels like we got some deep. Okay, here we go. We're gonna chat. Okay.

18:29AJ Hawk:We're going to go to the chat.

18:31Pat McAfee:Okay, the boys, now, granted, you guys could have done that. Choose not to. I like where your head's at. The bronze boss would like to ask the chat their thoughts on who this could be. How that will work is somebody in the back will read through the chat, and then they will spam a name, we assume. And that name will get mentioned to you guys out here. Bruce, what is the chat saying about the man who got his record broken by Adam Vinatieri in a... People are saying Sebastian Janikowski. I don't know how many games the Raiders had in the postseason. No offense to Janikowski, but I love him.

19:06Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:That doesn't seem... Seems like the chat once...

19:09Pat McAfee:Mort Anderson's being talked about. Once again, playoff games, I'm not 100 % sure. Barry Sanders' name's getting mentioned. We're talking postseason games. Talking postseason games. The Lions won all those Super Bowls, man. Chat, I'm telling you, chat might not be shown. Look at these eyes! Look at these eyes! Look at these eyes!

19:26Luke Kuechly:I thought we were going to get some kind of a scrolling thing where we'd get just a lot of options. That's a dangerous game, Drew. Just for random stuff up there. That's very dangerous.

19:37Pat McAfee:Terrell Davis' name was just mentioned.

19:39Luke Kuechly:A lot of running backs, would you say?

19:40Pat McAfee:Is that the name you just said, Bruce? What name did you say? Terrell Davis' name was mentioned. Any other names? He's a great player.

19:47Luke Kuechly:Any other running backs? Like who? We're thinking Emmitt, maybe. You don't have to go with anything the chat said.

19:56Pat McAfee:You can make your own answer here.

19:57Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Didn't Larry have a great one? Five, four, three, two, and?

20:02Luke Kuechly:All right, we're gonna go Terrell Davis. Boom! Wow! Wow!

20:09Puka Nacua:Boys, really good work on that. Yeah. Wow. Okay, it's starting to be a little bit of a runaway. Bunch of beater. Come on, bitch, I got you. A little bit of a runaway over here.

20:17Adam Vinatieri:They're out playing you guys too. That third lifeline, we said, like, anybody can use any time and You've got to play to the strengths of the game, you know?

20:24Puka Nacua:Hey, let's lock in a little bit. Congrats on that record, though. Hey, appreciate it. TD hates you.

20:29Pat McAfee:TD had to take the game ball out of the house. It's ain't a record anymore. All right, let's go to the next one. As we sit at 300 to 100, what is the only franchise to reach a Super Bowl with five different head coaches? Wow. Got to have a good building if five different head coaches can go in there and get the job done. Have nothing but time. Go ahead and take it. I started the show with you guys because you guys are Hall Famers.

20:53Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Congrats.

20:54Pat McAfee:Congratulations. Awesome. Congrats, guys. So cool. All four of you. You did. You played football. So good. They said we got to give this guy a bronze bus. The Dreds are going to be sick in the bus. I cannot wait for that.

21:05Adam Vinatieri:They better get Vinatieri now, too, by the way.

21:07Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I want that neck. Uh-huh. I want that neck jacked up. People at the Hall are going to think he's a linebacker. This is tough.

21:12Pat McAfee:You've reached him and not winning the Super Bowl. Oh, that's a good question. Hold on. That guy would know.

21:17Luke Kuechly:Who's that? A friend of the show. Can we phone a friend who's in the hallway? No, you can't. No, you can't.

21:25Puka Nacua:No, you can't.

21:26Pat McAfee:The gold jackets have hit the button. Yeah, this is the first time they've gotten into dates.

21:31David Tepper:It is a hallway friend. There's a fifth Hall of Famer. Double down on this too. Wow.

21:36Pat McAfee:Okay, you need to double down. This one will be worth 200 points because you're currently sitting at 100. Vinatieri, who? A double down. Double down. Double down. Double Don. You guys got one of those waiting on you, Double Don. Okay, what is the only franchise to reach a Super Bowl with five different head coaches, Vinny? Denver Broncos. Is the answer the Denver Broncos for a Double Don and the gold jackets to do their thing? Boom! Wow. Wow.

22:08Puka Nacua:What a play. First foul.

22:11Pat McAfee:Red Miller, Dan Reeves, Mike Shanahan, John Fox, and Gary Kubiak, his boy, by the way, has a chance to kind of do it.

22:17Luke Kuechly:That was our fourth question right there? That was our fifth question, right?

22:19Pat McAfee:Well, if we do some math, it was 300 to 100. So that would be the fifth question. You tell me, Boston College. That's good math. So 300, 300. Now all of a sudden, we've got a top ball game. Ooh, wow.

22:29Puka Nacua:Vinatieri. Woo!

22:30Pat McAfee:What a play. Wow. Boys, I'm going to let you know, they weren't really part of the game there for a little bit. And then all of a sudden, they said, we're going to play. That was a good win by you guys. 300 to 300. A little bit over halfway home. Next question here for the Hall of Fame faceoff. Roger Craig caught 20 passes, class many of you guys, caught 20 passes in his Super Bowl career, tied with which running back for most all time at that position? Now, Super Bowl career. Roger Craig caught 20 passes in his Super Bowl career, tied with which running back for most all time at that position?

23:02Pat McAfee:I appreciate how cerebral you guys.

23:04Luke Kuechly:Passes in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl.

23:07Pat McAfee:In Super.

23:08Luke Kuechly:Yeah, yeah. All Super Bowl receptions added up. Yes. Another running back was matched that. I like the way you're kind of cerebral in this entire thing.

23:17Puka Nacua:That's when you're able to do it. You're getting too.

23:19Pat McAfee:You guys, they're doing a lot of communicating over here. I don't know if your guys' brains are Bluetoothing or not. You guys got any Bluetooth going on here? Have you thought about it? Roger Craig, how is he, by the way? I wish I was - Great. Yeah, he's really good. Still high stepping? Yeah, he ran those knees. I saw some highlights. I didn't know him, obviously, before this entire. See, look at this. This is what they're doing. You guys should talk to me about Roger Craig.

23:42David Tepper:I'm guessing Danny Woodhead.

23:44Darius Butler:You guys need to lock in.

23:46AQ Shipley:That conversation.

23:47Darius Butler:This is very presidential. Keekly's been trying to smash that thing for the last 10 minutes. I don't know. We got some good ideas.

23:53David Tepper:Might be Mike Allstock. No, he didn't catch me.

23:55Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the Bronze Bus have decided they would like to give an answer. Roger Craig caught 20 passes in his Super Bowl career, tied with which running back for most all-time at that position? Bronze Bus, boys, your answer is? We're going to go James White.

24:10Luke Kuechly:Wow. Oh, sweet feet.

24:12Adam Vinatieri:That was a deep pool with James White. Should have been Super Bowl MVP. Patriots are back too, so maybe that is a case. Do you think that answer is right or would you like to steal?

24:20AJ Hawk:We think it's wrong.

24:22Adam Vinatieri:Wow. So you would like to steal right now? Another Patriots running back, Kevin Falk.

24:29Pat McAfee:You guys might lose 50 points here, you know. They could still get 100 points. Your answer once again is? James White. Your answer once again is?

24:37Puka Nacua:Kevin Falk.

24:38Pat McAfee:The right answer is?

24:40Puka Nacua:Nater! You guys lose 50 points. You're good. They tried to steal.

24:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, you guys just got to get by. Peace get fed. Hogs get slaughtered. 300 to 250 all of a sudden. And Thurman Thomas was the answer we were looking for. I don't think I heard it in any of the chatter. Boys, did you hear that name? No, not mention once. Makes sense to go to New England. We do appreciate your mind immediately goes to the Patriots because they were here so damn long.

25:10Luke Kuechly:Absolutely. thank you for that you're welcome yeah yeah obviously okay so you don't have to decide

25:18Adam Vinatieri:right which team right can we talk about that because that's not a real thing no i think uh

25:23Luke Kuechly:hopefully i can uh go in and have both groups just come together and i know there's probably some bad blood but uh it's going to be a party so hopefully they all get along yeah but i mean

25:32Adam Vinatieri:if that patriots dynasty wants to be represented like we thought it was going to in his whole

25:35David Tepper:of Fame we got through the right toe this guy don't Tom Brady yourself here okay don't do that you were there for the AFC title game just just accept it all right you got a dog in a race like

25:46Pat McAfee:Teddy Brewski congratulations to you guys man this is cool can's gonna be awesome maybe you guys will learn a little bit more about ball before that last answer there was getting I don't want to say I'm losing hope but I'm pumped let's go to the next question here Hall of Fame faceoff It's 300, BronzeBus. Which quarterback has the most double-digit wins in the Super Bowl? Who's smacking that ass in the biggest game of all time? Something to think about. Going to have to win a lot of Super Bowls to be able to have the most double-digit wins. Probably have to be a pretty notable quarterback. Oh, the BronzeBus already have their answer.

26:24Pat McAfee:Boys, now, once again, a good strategy could be get the answer wrong, mislead them a little bit, have them go backwards. So I don't know if that's what you're gonna try to do, if you're gonna try to get it right. Who do you guys believe is the quarterback with the most double digit wins in the Super Bowl, Drew? Trogman. Final answer? Trogman, final answer.

26:40Adam Vinatieri:Do you think they are right or would you like to attempt to enact a steal?

26:45AJ Hawk:I'm gonna go with Joe Montana. Okay. Okay. I love it, I love it. Let's go. Yes.

26:50Luke Kuechly:Get aggressive. I trust my teammate. They did beat the show out of the Bengals.

26:54Pat McAfee:And I like Joe Montana, great at tying, great at tying. So they are potentially going backwards if you guys are right. It turns out, final answer. Boom.

27:08Puka Nacua:These guys suck. Way to go, boys. Come on, Vinny. Way to go, boys.

27:12Adam Vinatieri:Vinny. Way to go, man. Dig deep. Hey, come on, I like that you guys are swinging for it, but you guys, you don't have to do that. You can just say, yeah, we'll see if they're right.

27:21Puka Nacua:You gotta make up some points. Pat, Larry knows.

27:24Pat McAfee:I mean, you know how not to do that? The other way. Let's go to the next question here at the Hall of Fame faceoff. 300-200. It was once a tie ball game. The gold jackets standing to my left are trying to go as backward as much as possible. You can use a double down if you would like to use your double down. This could be a time.

27:45Luke Kuechly:They're always talking. They're always talking, Sean. Do we know how many more questions? There's three questions. There's three questions left. So if we double down, if we double down, you can win. And we get it right, they can't get there. Yeah, wow. That's why they're Hall favorite. Okay, I mean, it's up to you guys. Hey, there's two minutes. You can never kill you guys.

28:04Pat McAfee:There's two minutes and seven seconds left.

28:06Luke Kuechly:So if we just keep talking.

28:07Pat McAfee:It's fourth and a half yard. Other team has no timeouts. Okay? What are we doing right now? We're kneeling this fucker out right now? Is that what you guys are saying? What are we doing?

28:17Luke Kuechly:What's going on? We gotta see what the next question is. For the sake of entertainment, we're gonna keep playing. Thank you. Thank you for that. Because we have a lot of the amount of time.

28:26Pat McAfee:That's a good idea. Which coach has the most double digit wins in the Super Bowl? Who was the quarterback? Well, who's the coach? Which coach has the most double digit wins in the Super Bowl? Remember, can't answer if you don't play.

28:46Pat McAfee:It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable, just the lack of urgency. There's no respect from either team for the other. No, no. They wanna win so bad.

28:56Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I love that Drew and Luke though, they are not a quiet defense. Always chirping.

29:01Puka Nacua:Would you guys chirp like this when you're on the field against each other?

29:03Luke Kuechly:We've never been able to be on the same team. We don't know what it's like.

29:06David Tepper:They're piling the button over here. Blue. Welcome to the game, boys.

29:10Pat McAfee:Holy shit, you guys are late. Which quarterback has the most double digit wins in the Super Bowl first ballot and, sorry coach, sorry, which coach has the most double digit wins?

29:18AJ Hawk:We're gonna go back to the Inzertown and go with Chuck Noel.

29:23Pat McAfee:Hey, how do you feel about Coach McCarthy going to Pittsburgh? Obviously different than what they're used to.

29:28AJ Hawk:I think you do a good job. I think him and the relationship he has with Aaron Rodgers, I think that will bode well for a year, hopefully.

29:35Pat McAfee:Larry Fitzgerald saying Aaron Rodgers coming back. His first ballot Hall of Famer. This guy's also first ballot journalist. They're saying Chuck Noah at Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you think that's right? Or would you like to attempt to steal if it's wrong?

29:47Luke Kuechly:We're just going to sit tight, let them kind of dig the hole. Yeah. Had to play the game. Okay, there will be no negative points here.

29:54Pat McAfee:I appreciate you guys for even giving an attempt. It's 400 and 200. The answer from the Gold Jackets is Chuck Noll. Is that correct? No!

30:05Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Oh, boy. Guys, if Chuck Noll was the answer, Terry Bradshaw would have been the previous answer.

30:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, but this didn't match up with Troy Aikman. That's why I think it was a good trivia question. Yeah, I think it was a good trivia question. I like it.

30:18Luke Kuechly:He's really have us thinking. This is good. I don't know who put these together, but it's five stars. His name's Paul Hembo. Yeah. Paul Hembo. Paul. Did a good job. Well done, Paul. Did a good job. He was going to like that. Why are these guys talking to everybody?

30:33Puka Nacua:Because these guys suck at the game.

30:35Pat McAfee:Exactly. That is why they are talking back there to try and get as much help as they possibly can. I don't blame them. I like the competitive juices. Okay, let's go to the next question here. What is the last team to score 500 regular season points in a Super Bowl winning season? Wow. who was powerful on the offensive side, and then went on to do the damn thing in the playoffs. Can we do it?

30:56Puka Nacua:Can we do it?

30:57Pat McAfee:We can't keep letting them go. I like that. You should do it. I like what you're doing right now. That's a whole thing, competitive mindset that we have here for the faceoff. What is the last team to score 500 regular season points in a Super Bowl-winning season, boys?

31:10Luke Kuechly:We're going to say the greatest show on turf, the Rams.

31:13Pat McAfee:That's a good answer. That's a great answer. Okay. Remember that Super Bowl with the Titans was bananas. Do you guys think that answer is right or would you like to enact a potential steal?

31:24Luke Kuechly:I'm curious. Sit tight.

31:27David Tepper:Come on, get something. Give him a chance.

31:32Luke Kuechly:Are you - Play the game. Come on. Play the game. You know what? My pride is boiling a little bit here, okay? So I'm gonna say that's wrong. Yes. Just for the sake of the game. I like it.

31:45Puka Nacua:It's wrong. Okay?

31:46Luke Kuechly:It's the 2009 New Orleans Saints.

31:48Puka Nacua:Wow. What?

31:52Pat McAfee:That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy if this is what Hembo dropped in here at this stage of this game. That's dirty business right. It's dirty if it's right.

32:01Puka Nacua:The right answer is. Wow. Did he know? Wow. I feel like there's some cheating going on in here. Game over. That's dirty business. That's dirty business. Game over. That's dirty business. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, the champion, just like he was against

32:23Pat McAfee:me, my rookie year, you in year 20 in that particular game. Ambush kickoff to start the second half. Look over there. Him and his baby at the end.

32:33Darius Butler:Demoralized.

32:34Pat McAfee:I will say this, congratulations to the bronze bus on your championship. I will talk to the losers first. Larry, obviously you're not a loser, okay?

32:44Adam Vinatieri:You're a first ballot Hall of Famer. We should remember the good times of the last 24 hours, not what you guys just did here.

32:50Pat McAfee:But, Larry, thank you so much for everything you've done for football. Can't wait to watch you go into Canton, brother.

32:54AQ Shipley:Thank you for having us, Pat. Appreciate you.

32:55Pat McAfee:What is your thoughts, though, on, like, Hall of Fame responsibilities for, like, future of game? Like, do you think there is a little bit more bestowed upon you now that you have a gold jacket for, like, the good of sport and everything like that? Do you feel that immediately or no?

33:07AJ Hawk:Absolutely. I mean, you're carrying it, you know, the legacy of the game for all the great men who have laid the groundwork for us to be able to stand on their shoulders. And so, yeah, you want to make sure you're doing a great job of upholding the values and the standards of the Hall. It's always stood for because for the next generation of guys coming behind us.

33:23Pat McAfee:Vinatieri, there's not going to be a lot of kickers, OK, that go in there. Punters, I think Shane Leckler should be next. But, hey, that's neither here nor there. I'm not a voter. Thank God. Seems like it's a bad sport to be, but they got it right with you, brother. Congratulations. And on the position factor being a part of it. Do you feel honored that you are representing all kickers and punters, basically, and this is not a normal thing for the Hall of Fame?

33:49Luke Kuechly:No, absolutely. I think it's very difficult to get into the Hall no matter what position you play. Obviously, we're not on the field as often as these guys. I said it a million times. I just get to put the icing on the cake after they work their butts off all game long and build it. So, yeah, I'm very, very happy to be the third kicker in. But, yeah, you know, as far as I'm concerned, it's just a great honor to be standing up here with these guys, and hopefully I can make the Hall proud.

34:17Pat McAfee:Icing on the cake from the ice-cold Vinatieri. Do you know a couple things about this guy? He's going to be like a brain surgeon if he wasn't a kicker. Did you know that?

34:23Luke Kuechly:I did not know that. Not from this game. You couldn't tell that? Yeah, I didn't tell a lot of that.

34:28Pat McAfee:But it's like I got a chance, obviously, to hold for him, and I assume you're all kind of similar in nature, which is why you're Hall of Famers. First time we had a kick that meant something, you know, like it meant something. and I'm with Adam Vinatieri. Obviously, the only person that can fuck this up is me, not Adam Vinatieri. So I'm jogging out there and we do our entire thing and I look back and there's a soulless man back there. And it's like, oh, this is what it is. This is why Adam Vinatieri is who he is. I want to let you know you taught me so much. I assume you all helped younger teammates of yours throughout the entirety of it all.

34:55Pat McAfee:We appreciate the hell out of you. So you losers, get the hell out of here. We'll see you in Canton, all right? Congratulations, boys. Good show. And Adam Vinatieri now for our winners. Congratulations. I would say, okay, when the teams were selected randomly, you guys were the odds on favorite. Let them get out of here.

35:19Puka Nacua:They're Hall Famers, too. That's a big thing. Losers today. Yeah, yeah.

35:23Pat McAfee:You guys were clearly the odds on favorite. So as soon as the names were kind of pieced together, it's like, well, that team seemingly going to do very well. Why do you think you guys did so well, Drew?

35:34Luke Kuechly:Well, I've been waiting for this moment to be on the same team with Luke. And was tired of going against him for so many years. And honestly, like we came out here and we knew we had the boys. We had the boys in our back pocket. Thank you, Drew. Well said, Drew. So we knew that was like a guaranteed one right there. I knew he would pull at least a few. And then we just needed like the icing on the cake at the very end, which I appreciate you teeing up that Saints stat there. And you weren't going to do it, by the way. They had to tell you to play it again. Hey, Drew, this is your fucking answer.

36:03Luke Kuechly:Yeah. It's the equivalent of, like you said, inside of two minutes, the other team has no timeouts. You got the lead. First down, you could just take a knee. But instead, you decide to give them the old dipsy-doo. And that's pretty much, yeah. Just that the game was already over. Make sure we covered the spread. You know, for all those who believe in this. Thank you. We appreciate it. Good teams win. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people sitting right here that are very thankful.

36:27Pat McAfee:That was the equivalent. You, whenever I made Pro Bowl first time I was in Arizona, It was freezing cold, and we drove out in the middle of the desert. When I was a kid, I watched it was in Hawaii. So certainly an interesting thing. Quite an honor. Still an honor, I will say. It was certainly an honor. This guy looked like Clark Kent in a gift shop. He had a hoodie up, had no idea who he was, had glasses on. Then obviously you watched.

36:47Luke Kuechly:I can help you. You asked me, hey, can you help me find something? I said, hey, pass. Hey.

36:53Puka Nacua:As you know. You work here?

36:54Luke Kuechly:You work here? I need something with my room. Can you guys drop some towels off? I said, yeah, what room is that? I'm going to charge everything.

37:02Pat McAfee:unassuming which is why unassuming which is why so special also you know potential once again we're on a voyage we're all on a voyage all the time okay um but you took it very seriously about representing the league and being one of the older guys and talk to everybody now you're in the hall of fame it feels like it solidifies everything you are for this game do you feel that and why have you always felt obligated to put on for the league and everything

37:23Luke Kuechly:i i think i've always had a profound respect and reverence for this game um and always tried to do it the right way. Always really appreciated the guys that came before us. I mean, so many guys that we looked up to and inspired to be like and honestly paved the way for what we were able to accomplish. And I think we tried to make our mark on this game as well and leave it better than when we found it so that this next generation can continue to carry on that legacy. I think we all take so much pride in it. You're the man. First ballot.

37:53Pat McAfee:Over Bill Belichick. Now it's two different places. But you can say that. I can't. I'd put that on my ex-bio if I were you, but obviously you're a much more humble man than I. Thank you for everything you've done for the sport. Luke, you didn't do shit for me at that hotel, obviously, for the Pro Bowl. But you being second youngest guy of all time, that's obviously a huge amount of respect for what you're able to accomplish so quickly. Whenever you wake up and feel good, and you know you still got it, and we watch your nerdcast, you can still read what everything's happening, do you get an itch to get back out there like Phillip Rivers did because he might have been a part of your class,

38:24Adam Vinatieri:but instead he said delay that five years?

38:26Luke Kuechly:I think you always think you can play, and then you get on the field before the game and see the guys, and they get bigger and bigger, and you want nothing to do with those guys. A couple years ago, I was on the field before a game, and Najee Harris ran by. I said, I want nothing to do with that. I'm going to go sit upstairs and watch the game from a box and be comfortable. So, no, I don't have any itch anymore.

38:43Pat McAfee:Have you thought about the speech? When do you start piecing that together? Because obviously there's a lot of people, a part of your journey that you want to give a shout-out to. Have you started doing that, or how do you kind of envision that, or are you just kind of taking a day at a time?

38:54Luke Kuechly:I think it's a day at a time right now. I think everything has happened so fast the last two weeks. We haven't really had a chance to digest anything, and this week has been awesome. But next week I think it settles in on who goes, when do you go, where do you go, and then obviously that speech, it's going to be canned and it's going to be hot and I'm going to be sweating, so I've got to get my mind wrapped around that.

39:11Pat McAfee:Where you guys are going is into immortality for football forever. You've earned it. And congratulations on winning the first ever Hall of Fame faceoff. $25 ,000 for you to give to a youth football program around the country and then the Pro Football Hall of Fame will also donate$25 ,000 for you to give to a youth football program around the country. Thank you guys for representing Ball and being very good at this game. Yeah. Odds on favorite going in, but also lived up to the hype. Not easy to do. Awesome. Thanks for having us. You too. Hey, congrats, brother. Set the bar. Yeah. You are the standard.

39:41Pat McAfee:Mm-hmm. You are the standard. See you guys. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Steve Bronzeboss. Yeah. Congrats, boys. Yeah, boys. That was not a bad little shiver game. No, no. Incredible. Not at all. Okay, this is what we're going to do. We're going to take a couple minute break, and then we're going to reset this thing. And then David Tepper, owner of the Carolina Panthers, will join us. And then we're feel good Friday-ing right here from Radio Row. That was Hall of Fame Face-Off. Pat McAfee's show is on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Congrats to them.

40:06Pat McAfee:They were ass. Yes, they were.

40:08Puka Nacua:They were ass at that game.

40:09Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah.

40:10Puka Nacua:I think I was better.

40:12Pat McAfee:Well, hold on. Hold on. I don't know. Football! It is the greatest, and we're here celebrating the hell out of it. San Francisco has been an incredibly hospitable town for all of us as we look ahead to Sundays.

40:24Adam Vinatieri:Big game. And listen, if you don't have McAfee downloaded to your phone, you're really rolling the dice with your digital safety.

40:31Pat McAfee:Scammers are out there everywhere. Public Wi-Fi is dangerous as hell.

40:35Adam Vinatieri:They provide alternate VPNs for safe surfing while also being able to scan your texts and emails so you don't get got by some gitster who needs to get had. Okay?

40:44Pat McAfee:So go ahead to pat.mcafee.com. And kind of a bar there, I guess. But welcome back to the Pat McAfee Show. We have so many people stopping by.

40:54Adam Vinatieri:The celebration of football is obviously perfect out here. The weather has been great. The local vegetables have been fantastic.

41:01Pat McAfee:The local herbs have taken care of us. The local restaurants have been great. Yesterday, we were at Golf Studio Bar and Grill. Yes. Studio Golf Bar and Grill. Yep. Two weeks it's been open. Great. Rain shine was our waiter.

41:15Puka Nacua:Studio Golf Bar and Grill.

41:17Adam Vinatieri:Studio Golf Bar and Grill. We're very thankful for them. Adrian took care of us. But nonetheless, big game on Sunday. Seahawks, Patriots, who win the Super Bowl. We'll talk about that certainly for the next couple hours.

41:27Pat McAfee:But joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, owner of the Carolina Panthers and Charlotte FC, and I believe multiple other businesses, a man who is a yinzer. Ladies and gentlemen, David Tepper.

41:39David Tepper:Yeah!

41:43David Tepper:Hell yeah. Sir, thank you to see it. Yeah, thank you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, okay, okay, okay. We don't deserve it. All right. It's an honor.

41:55Adam Vinatieri:Thank you. Hey, you could do something cool. Throw something at him. Yeah. Tribal shoes?

42:01Gabriel Morency:Yeah.

42:01David Tepper:Sweet.

42:04Gabriel Morency:You didn't know that? All right, I got two gifts for you. Since you brought to the Carolinas, there's a concert for the Carolinas jersey.

42:11Puka Nacua:Okay.

42:12Gabriel Morency:And that's special because I wore that myself when I gave it to you. I was going to wear it today, but I figured I'd give it to you. Sweat. Tepper sweat on it. There's Tepper sweat on that. Okay. There you go. That could be sold on eBay for the finance area. The second thing I'm going to give you, second gift I have, at the honors yesterday, you know, Tat was there. You run the award. T-Mac. Yeah, so here.

42:37Kyle Van Noy:Oh.

42:38Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:There you go. He looked good wearing that yesterday. Yeah. So there you go.

42:41Adam Vinatieri:Now I think I can say anything.

42:42Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah.

42:44Puka Nacua:I don't think so. Right? Is that how it works? I'm 100 % sure. I think so.

42:50Adam Vinatieri:I think I'm 100 % sure. Okay. First of all, thank you so much for both these things, thinking of us. This shirt, can I talk about this shirt in this moment? Sure, sure. I think that's whenever it all changed for you guys at the Carolina Panthers. I've mentioned that numerous times. I think there was potentially some interesting energy around the Carolina Panthers with you and the town and the team.

43:09Pat McAfee:And then I think whenever you guys came together, you offered up the stadium. You offered to foot the bill. You donated so much money for the hurricane relief that was happening in the area. I feel like we've seen a direct response on the other side of that with you.

43:20Adam Vinatieri:And do you agree with that or no? Listen, if you believe in karma, you know, my wife, my wife, Nicole's a big believer in karma.

43:29Gabriel Morency:Listen, we do a lot. So there's a lot of karma that hopefully if we get paid back, we get a great future.

43:34Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, it's all coming now, it feels like, you know, we'll see. Carolina Panthers under your leadership at this point feels much different than it did a couple of years ago. You agree with that, and why do you think that is the case?

43:45Gabriel Morency:I think we have a great team right now, a great management team with Dave Canales and Dan Morgan and Brantillis there. So I think it starts with them and the confidence I have in them. So it starts there, and I think that we've done a pretty good job in the draft and stuff like that, and the whole building just feels better.

44:06Adam Vinatieri:Feels like you're an uber-competitive person.

44:09Gabriel Morency:Some people think that. Yeah, you have to be.

44:11Adam Vinatieri:What business world did you come from? What was your direct line of business before you got into owning an NFL team?

44:16Gabriel Morency:I have a big hedge fund.

44:18Adam Vinatieri:Okay, so that's a lot of competition. You've got to drive, obviously. There's a lot of driving, a lot of vision and everything like that. You've had a lot of success. You get into ownership, both the soccer team and the NFL team. It's not going perfectly. I think for you it was probably something that was very difficult to deal with.

44:32Pat McAfee:Is that an accurate read of who you are?

44:34Gabriel Morency:Yeah, I think so. I mean, with the soccer team, we started the soccer team. And, you know, it's kind of easier when you start something from the get-go. and then you don't have to kind of change things around. And we also had a little experience with the football team, so you know what we might have not done right there. So with the soccer team, we were not in the playoffs the first year, but we've been in four years, and we've been in the playoffs three of the four years. So the soccer team was going really well. Not to talk about soccer here, but the soccer team's interesting because we gave a, you know, Charlotte has a fairly large Hispanic population that people don't know about, So it gave identity to those people.

45:11Gabriel Morency:So we, like, have the second biggest attendance in MOS. Behind Miami? No, Atlanta.

45:18Puka Nacua:Oh, wow. Ooh. You're telling me Messi's not moving?

45:21Gabriel Morency:They don't have a big enough stadium yet.

45:24Adam Vinatieri:Ah. You're just saying, hey, Beckham, yeah, good try down there.

45:27Gabriel Morency:Yeah, good job.

45:30Adam Vinatieri:Okay, and let's go over to football. Because I assume for somebody like you who's had a lot of success, you're also a yinzer, so I know probably a little bit more about how you probably operate. Shout out to you, inner-city Pittsburgh kid, doing everything that you're doing currently. But whenever it's not going right, your immediate reaction is, I want to help, I want to fix, I want to change. And then did you hear the outside noise saying, hey, you've got to get your ass out of this?

45:48Pat McAfee:Did you hear a lot of that, and how do you balance that type of stuff?

45:51Gabriel Morency:Yeah, look, I mean, it's an interesting question because it's also how you pull back, and you probably know this. It's like on some things it's a perception on one hand on what's on the outside world, and then there's inner perception, you know, what's really going on. So it's also how the building feels and what's happening different in the building that sometimes you have to respond to one way or another, that people don't know on the outside, they don't know what's going on. So for me, I always want to get it right. I'm probably, which people don't think so, I mean I've had the same people working for me forever at my hedge fund.

46:29Gabriel Morency:So it's kind of one of those dichotomies that people view. view but right now i'm like really happy with the management team happy with the management team on the business side and we right now have we're in the third year right we didn't have to go through compete with 10 other teams for coaches this year thank god thank god congratulations because you're in there for a while yeah you've been in those waters before yeah no so that was really nice and you know listen when you have um that level of confidence in people it's really easy to be more hands-off. There's no reason to be hands-off. There's just no reason.

47:07Gabriel Morency:So things are, you know, things are going right. And we're still trying to, you know, it's something I should not be involved in any day-to-day decisions or day-to-day operations. You know, it's just something that no owner should really be involved in. It's a question, you know, potentially some strategy things, there's money issues that you get involved in and things like that. But, you know, and then there's a thing I care about, obviously, things that I'm going to get criticized about. you know, which is really in the draft. It's the first round. There's first two rounds, right? Nobody cares.

47:37Gabriel Morency:You know, don't blame the owner for the third round pick. They blame the owner for the first round pick. They blame the owner maybe for the second round pick, but they don't do for the third round pick.

47:44Adam Vinatieri:I like that. So you're focused in on the first couple picks.

47:46Gabriel Morency:I kind of know where all the picks are going. So, yeah, but I mean, listen, you know, it's pretty much, even in all that stuff, always letting guys do their job.

47:56Adam Vinatieri:Okay, so let's talk about one of your early first round picks, Bryce Young, where he was on the show yesterday. He sat in the pocket here. We talked about things that obviously were not comfortable for him throughout his life. I think adversity is always going to happen. I think you experience it as an owner. I think you experience it through life. I think Bryce experienced it in his professional career already. And he said he just took the mind and the perspective of, like, hey, be the best part of this. How can I change? How do I make this good? What have you seen from Bryce, from a leader and, like, the guy who is the face of your program?

48:25Gabriel Morency:Look, Bryce, first off, you sat with Bryce. Bryce is a great individual. He's one of the truly great individuals. I mean, there's a lot of great individuals in the NFL. I mean, people don't appreciate how nice and how good these young men are in general. Hell yeah. I think that's an accurate. And Bryce, like I always say, Bryce is the kind of guy you might want to have your daughter marry. So if you like that, if I was going to give him that kind of compliment. And, you know, Bryce, you know, it's like, you know, if you look at it year by year by year, we're where we are now in this last year.

49:00Gabriel Morency:And, listen, great to have a playoff game and let the national people see the playoff game and see the guy under pressure. And he's cool as a cucumber in that fourth quarter. You know, he has, I guess he still has, you probably said on the show, you know, he has the most comebacks since 23, you know. Oh, yeah, we knew that. Yeah, it'd be nice to have those first and second quarter leads. Yeah.

49:23Puka Nacua:See, my heart here.

49:25Gabriel Morency:But, you know, when you have that and you know that you talk about, I was just talking about with Vinatieri back there, you know, you have these guys that can come and do that fourth quarter. You know that Roethlisberger or Bradshaw for Pittsburgh. Yeah. You're a Steeler fan when you grew up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:39Adam Vinatieri:Life's better when the Steelers win if you're in Pittsburgh. What's that? Life is better if the Steelers win.

49:44Gabriel Morency:Yeah, well, Pittsburgh, it's Steelers first, religion second, you know, on Sunday mornings. Yeah, I think it's two.

49:49Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, it's actually a good call. I don't know if you saw, by the way, the father blessed the field with a kick. Maybe something to think. Yeah, I know you thought about it. Yeah, I know you thought about it.

49:58David Tepper:AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Mr. Tepper, what do you like when you watch the games? I guess where are you watching? What's your mindset? I would imagine as an owner you're pretty nervous knowing the hay is in the barn. I can't really do anything now that the game has started.

50:10Gabriel Morency:You know, in the blocks, in our blocks, I usually watch – we always watch the games together with Dan and Brandt, or in the blocks together. Dan is the most animated in the box, probably. Really? Yeah. Despite things, I'm pretty calm until I'm not.

50:27Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, you're awesome. Hey, you're awesome when you're not, though. Yeah.

50:30Gabriel Morency:I understand that. It takes some interesting story, which we won't get into today, but it takes to be, I'm very calm until I'm not calm. Yeah, you're a yinzer, dude. Yinzer, you know how it goes. Yeah, yeah. The top of the top.

50:44Puka Nacua:I see that sign every day while I'm driving by here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:48Gabriel Morency:Listen, it's like you don't like to start a fight. But. But, right. If we're going to. If you're going to get in my face, then it's, yeah. But as I get older, I just said this back there. I was talking. Again, the Vinatieri is 53 years old. I said, you know, at some point you've got to, like, leave that edge go. Okay? That's, like, enough already. You know, but it's the answer edge.

51:07Adam Vinatieri:Vinny doesn't, though. Like, if you're playing checkers with Vinny and he's about to lose, he's flipping the thing. That's the same.

51:13Pat McAfee:Exactly. I think there's just levels to it. There's only 32 teams, man. Right. You know, and everybody's fighting for it. So I respect your competitive juices. And I like the fact that you're like, I'm sick of this place. I'm actually going to go in here and say it because people that are in your position would never do that.

51:27Adam Vinatieri:That would be something that they would send. The fact that you want to do it yourself, I think, is a part of, like, who you are. Like, that is a part of your nature is, like, I would rather handle my own business. And then whenever it doesn't go great and it's not the exact same as everybody else, you provide an opportunity for everybody to bury you, which I think you kind of understand being a unique individual probably, right? Yeah, a little bit. You agree with all that, though? More or less. Yeah. He's throwing the ice was awesome.

51:49Pat McAfee:Like, these things are all awesome. You know what I mean? Like, these are all awesome. It's a human thing that you billionaires and owners aren't supposed to act like.

51:57Gabriel Morency:Let me just mention with that thing, I was very calm during that game.

52:03David Tepper:No, no.

52:04Gabriel Morency:In Jacksonville, you know, the way it's set up is the boxes. They can get on a chair and lean into your box.

52:10Puka Nacua:Ah. It's like a stand on the chair and come into your box.

52:13Gabriel Morency:Feels like a design flaw. Yeah. Yeah. The Pittsburgh guy, you can think about that. I have to be good with this. So, yeah. So.

52:21Adam Vinatieri:But we want to let you know we appreciate that you appear to be human in those moments. But obviously you provide a lot of opportunity for people to bury you whenever you do.

52:28Gabriel Morency:Well, you know, in that case, I was walking away and then somebody or player Marquis Haynes got knocked out on the field. And the guy, the people after harassing us the whole game, you know, harassing, harassing, harassing, which I'm just like, you know, walk away, walk away, walk away. the guy said basically get your turned around and said get your freaking player off the field our guys knocked out on the field I was walking on the thing because I couldn't take it anymore and then I just

52:56Puka Nacua:yeah

52:57Gabriel Morency:listen as you know these are your these are your when you're it's almost like your kids yeah sometimes as an owner you know you see the relationship and I mean you see you know last night with you know Ted come around back and hugged us back there like that. You have tried to have that relationship with your players and your family. Yeah, you're supposed to care. You're allowed to care, dude. You're allowed to care. You're supposed to care about your family. These are your family. It's your family. That's what we try to have that environment inside that building right now. It's what we're trying to build.

53:29Gabriel Morency:If you look at the legends that come back in our games and such and even a big guy the other day, all these guys coming back. Steve Smith who didn't come back for a while. We try to get everybody back in here. When your family You know, you have kids. Oh, yeah, a lot of kids. He's got like ten of them.

53:45David Tepper:I got four, not ten.

53:46Gabriel Morency:What do you do with one of your kids? Somebody does that. Oh, lose my mind. Yeah, absolutely.

53:51Adam Vinatieri:Hey, we're on your side here. We're on your side.

53:53Gabriel Morency:I'm just explaining it because, you know, that's the truth.

53:57Adam Vinatieri:All right, last question here for you, Mr.

53:59AQ Shipley:Tepper from D-Budge. You just kind of mentioned it. Obviously, the environment, that playoff atmosphere, and then Cam coming back. We always look at teams and the ownership level, and we talk about, you know, the relationship with some of their former star players. I know it's things in the media. How is that relationship now, and how did it come to him showing back up, you know, in a big playoff environment?

54:18Gabriel Morency:You know, it's an amazing thing what gets in the media and what's reality. I mean, Cam is always –

54:23Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, but perspective is reality. You know that.

54:25Gabriel Morency:I do know that. Especially in this world. I do this stuff called the markets, and I get that perspective versus reality. I kind of understand that concept a little bit. Yeah, I'm coaching you. I appreciate that. But, look, I mean, you know, Cam was always welcome back. And, you know, I just called Cam. I just said, you know, it's time. You know, come on back in. You know, this is the moment. This is the time. And we need you. You will provide the energy in the stadium, which he did. Yeah. And the place was rocking. Oh, yeah. It was rocking. I don't know if any of you were there. Were you there?

54:58Gabriel Morency:No, we were watching. Okay, just because he played one year in Carolina. Yeah, yeah, he's a Panther, former Panther. Yeah, no, no. We was talking about Big East basketball, too. Yeah, it was, you know, because I was up. I went to Pitt. You went to Virginia. West Virginia, yeah. I know.

55:11Adam Vinatieri:There's no reason to do it. You just did it.

55:14Gabriel Morency:So you're Pitt guy.

55:15Adam Vinatieri:Drove up in Pittsburgh. Went to Pitt.

55:17Gabriel Morency:Pitt. Well, I went to Pitt. I went to Peabody High School. Okay. And he's Sliberty. Sliberty. Sliberty. Sliberty, which is now called, it was an inner city school now called Barack Obama High. Oh, yeah. And then I went to Peabody. I went to Pitt. And then I went to Carnegie Mellon for grad school. So real youngs there.

55:33Adam Vinatieri:So you are through and through. Now, real youngs there, I don't know how many are making this Carnegie Mellon.

55:36Gabriel Morency:I think you know. No, I owned a part of the Steelers for a few years. Yeah, minority owner. Yeah, in the Steelers. So it was like, yeah, real Pittsburgh guy. And, you know, whole deal. Short order cook, clean bathrooms, the whole deal. You know, you have to do like, you know.

55:49Adam Vinatieri:Do you still operate the hedge fund or no?

55:51Gabriel Morency:Oh, yeah, yeah.

55:52Adam Vinatieri:10X or 12X what I should be? What do you think I should be pitching?

55:55Gabriel Morency:What did you say?

55:56Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, you know. 10X or 12X. How much should I be multiplying what I have?

56:00Gabriel Morency:10X or 12X what you have?

56:02Adam Vinatieri:Yeah.

56:03Gabriel Morency:Well, Appaloosa probably has the best record over the last 35 years of any hedge fund alive. That's actually true for what it's worth. So it's not worth anything in the football world, but it's the truth.

56:14Pat McAfee:It could be worth something in our world. We are potentially selling a few percent.

56:17Gabriel Morency:It could be. If you're friendly with me, you say good things. I mean, we can talk.

56:23Pat McAfee:Now, there are a few other billionaires that are roaming around here. And we can certainly become a state-run media run out of Carolina. You can do that. That means 14X.

56:34Gabriel Morency:It's great weather down there. Better than the Berg, that's for sure.

56:38Adam Vinatieri:And Indiana. How has Carolina been with this cold?

56:40Gabriel Morency:Oh, you know, they had snow the other day. They don't know what to do. You know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the first place where we were from, you know, you know how to drive.

56:47Adam Vinatieri:That's the part, knowing. No, you know.

56:49Gabriel Morency:You know what it's like because we had that big snow all the time. We had that cold weather all the time when we grew up, right? Yeah. So, well, you just know it.

56:55Adam Vinatieri:Good for you, man. That's really cool. Yeah. You knew you were just going to be a billionaire NFL owner? Like, how did you decide to own an NFL team? Are you kidding? How did you decide the NFL team?

57:04Gabriel Morency:Well, you know, I played a little bit of football in high school. Whoa, what did you play? What did I play? I played the bench. But I played club football all through, you know, college and grad school and stuff like that. So, I mean, I just like football. And, you know, when it came to an opportunity to get involved with the Steelers, that's, you know, you know how I play Pittsburgh. So I did that. And then, you know, when the Carolina opportunity came up, you know, I already had the association that was already approved with the NFL, and I had a cast sitting around. Burn a hole in your pocket.

57:41Gabriel Morency:It was burning. I just had to do something with it.

57:45Adam Vinatieri:You're the best. It feels like the NFL is up and to the right. You obviously know a lot more than us. Jim Irsay was the person that kept us kind of informed. Rest in peace to him. We are going to be relying upon you to keep us updated on what the hell is going on in your one per club meetings.

57:57Gabriel Morency:I'll tell you everything that happens in a meeting. You'll be my first call. Yes.

58:00Puka Nacua:Boom. All right. That's journalism. See what we did, what we just did right there.

58:05Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Carolina Panthers, David Tepper. Hey.

58:09Puka Nacua:David Tepper.

58:09Gabriel Morency:Thank you very much. Thank you.

58:11Puka Nacua:Thank you, thank you, thank you. Oh shit.

58:14David Tepper:All right, thank you.

58:16Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Thank you.

58:16Adam Vinatieri:Thank you, pleasure. Potentially owner of Pat McAfee, Inc.

58:20Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Something to think about. Something to think about.

58:22Adam Vinatieri:I think it's anywhere between 800 to a bill. Do you? Yeah. Where are you starting? I mean, I'll lay out a full presentation. I'm going to start at 1.25. You're probably going to work me down a little bit. But just know that anywhere between 800 and a bill, you'll get a deal done, yeah. Okay, good luck. All right, see you.

58:39Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:There you go. He's not the only one. There's about to be enough. So you did that with Cuban a couple weeks ago. So you got Cuban, you got Taps, yeah. Yeah, we're just letting them all know. Maybe a couple other guests.

58:48Pat McAfee:So, hey, you want to be part of the program? Potentially you.

58:51Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, bingo.

58:51Pat McAfee:You know, that is a good part of what we have going on,

58:54Adam Vinatieri:which we are kind of able to do what we want, you know? And, like, a lot of people get kind of upset about that at the beginning. But whenever you have that type of freedom, I think you're able to explore the space more and take more attempts. Us being a daily ESPN show, live from Radio Row, is, like, right move. Like, everybody should be here. Yeah.

59:11Darius Butler:Yes.

59:12Adam Vinatieri:Yeah. Radio Row is the Super Bowl. Yeah. And we are incredibly thankful to be here. On the other side of this particular break, this is going to be our first break of the show, obviously, because of the Hall of Fame face-off. We got guests galore. And they're not just, like, small guests. Oh, no. We got huge guests.

59:25Puka Nacua:Not in stature.

59:27AQ Shipley:Okay. No.

59:27Puka Nacua:Because, like, the human bones stacked up. Sure. Not the tallest. Not crazy.

59:34AQ Shipley:Not Thor.

59:34Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Some of them. Thor's not going to. What if you were to stack their bank accounts?

59:41Pat McAfee:As tall as these hills over here in San Francisco. That's right. Can't stress this enough. Sam Fran has been phenomenal. This next hour of the program is about to be ridiculous. We thank you all so much for celebrating ball alongside of us. We're back on the other side of this break. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. See you on your side. as George Kittle rolls by. Oh, baby, George! Have a great day, George! Have a great day, George!

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1:01:37Adam Vinatieri:weekend here in Northern California. Us sitting in San Francisco. This game in Santa Clara as McDonald and Sam Donald representing the NFC West

1:01:47Pat McAfee:will battle the AFC East, New England Patriots. Mike Vrabel, Drake May in a litany of dogs look to become superstars on the biggest stage. Let's go to the talks at the table

1:01:57Adam Vinatieri:at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, how do you feel? Feel good Friday. Your team's in the Super Bowl. How you doing? Keep it moving. Life is fantastic.

1:02:07David Tepper:Yeah, I wonder Wonderful. I mean, Drake May got robbed last night of the MVP. I think that just helps the Patriots moving forward, especially just kind of spite, hey, we all we got, we all we need. That's kind of what they're going with this year. Vrabel and McDaniels win coach of the year and assistant coach of the year. But as of this moment, feel just as good as I did on Wednesday. You know, I just focused on Sunday. Let's get there and let's, you know, hang Banner 7.

1:02:28Adam Vinatieri:It's hard to kind of eliminate the distraction. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. How's your voyage of Super Bowl week going?

1:02:36AQ Shipley:It's been great. It's been outstanding. I can't wait until we get to this game. It's obviously the last show leading up to it. I can't wait. Regardless of how it goes, it's going to be a great story. Either side, I know you feel like Drake got robbed, and maybe they circled a rag and wag. Maybe. It was close.

1:02:49David Tepper:His buddy Dan Orlovsky voted for him, and that's why.

1:02:51AQ Shipley:Well, I mean, Dan, that vote wasn't a problem. But, you know, it came down to it was close, and we got some other fantastic players playing as well.

1:02:59Pat McAfee:24-23, allegedly the MVP voting. So the AP had a tough decision to make. It was a two-headed monster for a while, although some voters said, no, actually, this guy is the guy. And everybody said, why is this Irish guy? Yeah, take his vote away. Yeah, so it's getting pretty crazy. The voters obviously have a lot of responsibility. Congratulations to Matthew Stafford, draft class of 09, winning the MVP and announcing he's coming back next season. That's awesome. I thought that was a beautiful moment with his kids. I thought he handled that very well. Good luck to him. Congrats to all the winners from last night.

1:03:33Pat McAfee:Obviously, historic seasons for a lot of people. It was fun to watch and celebrate. We're not invited to that place. No. It would be crazy that this guy, Super Bowl champion A.J. Hawk, not invited. A.J., your thoughts on the awards last night and Matthew Stafford finally getting MVP next to his name.

1:03:48David Tepper:Yeah, I was happy for Matthew Stafford. It was cool to see he and his family get that honor. And, you know, everyone seemed pretty excited when he said he was coming back as well. So I'm sure that felt good for him and his family. How could you not come back if you win the MVP? How could you just walk away?

1:04:00Adam Vinatieri:That would be the Barry Sanders type, you know, go out on top of your game. It would be a crazy one. I made a Pro Bowl and then I retired. But the quarterback position, their entire lives have been shaped around making them, you know. And then if you could still be an MVP and they're still going to pay you$40,$50 million to do it, it's like it'd be hard to turn that down, I think, for anybody. So we're happy he's coming back. We love Stafford. Speaking of coming back, it's becoming an annual tradition on these Feel Good Fridays.

1:04:30Pat McAfee:You know, there's a man, and now in this particular case, a man who come to Super Bowl time to shake hands. That's right. Because their names are at the top of basically every single deal that happens with everything that happens anywhere. You're watching Luke Littler over there throw darts. Yeah. I'm assuming if you stick around to the credits, one of these guys' names is going to be a part of it. Obviously, UFC, both of these names are going to be a part of it. College football playoff deal, I do believe if you were to see the contract, these names were on top of it. Okay. Everything that's going to kind of happen, these names are on top of it.

1:05:02Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, TKO Group chairman, founder of Endeavor, and also Maury and everything else they have going on, Ari Emanuel and Mark Shapiro. Hey, boys.

1:05:17Puka Nacua:Hey, man, man, business mess. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Suits. Good to see you, Suits. Good to see you. How you doing? For sure, Shapiro's a suit.

1:05:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, I know. Ari was super excited to see what you were going to wear, Mark. I want to let you know that. Ari was hoping that you would show up in a full suit. Instead, you have kind of like the business cash, sport coat, kind of undershirt. Got to look good. Here for a luncheon, you know. Where's his matcha?

1:05:51Mark Shapiro:He doesn't have the quarter zip. I'm fully caffeinated.

1:05:54Fernando Mendoza:I'm ready to go.

1:05:54Pat McAfee:Ari Emanuel, by the way, is Ari Gold from Entourage. Correct. We talk about this every single year. I think that does need to be stated. And now that I know him as an avid Entourage watcher from before, I know Jeremy Piven is a very good actor. I think writing that shit was probably pretty easy. I assume following this guy around, it kind of is what it is. Ari, you've moved into sports in a big way. Obviously, you as well, Shapiro, you kind of cut your teeth, I believe, in the sports world. Ari, moving into sports in such a big way, formerly of just Hollywood, now you still have Hollywood, but you love live sports.

1:06:29Pat McAfee:You're in it. Why and what has the trajectory been from the last time we spoke to you about what sports is up and to the right with these streaming platforms?

1:06:36Mark Shapiro:You know, he didn't even mention that I've taken on this experiment called Pat McAfee, an actor. I mean, this guy just finished Tulsa King. Whoa. What? Yeah, a bunch of episodes. That's not front-time news, actually. What? Come on now.

1:06:50Fernando Mendoza:Breaking news already.

1:06:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, okay. Yeah, Slice Stallone, by the way. Hey, shout out. To the entire Stallone family. That was a good time. It has been fun. You've got to do four episodes, this guy. Okay.

1:07:01Puka Nacua:All right. Okay, come on. Come on. I think you just pissed off. I don't give a shit. Yeah, we know. We know you don't.

1:07:10Fernando Mendoza:Is he cutting you Ari Gold deals? Like, are you getting big deals? Oh, yeah. You know how it goes. Yeah, huge.

1:07:16Puka Nacua:We're building the platform. Yeah, of course you are. Back at stage one.

1:07:20Mark Shapiro:It is an honor. You have to pay. Yeah, exactly.

1:07:23Pat McAfee:That's kind of how it feels in your guys' world. No, listen.

1:07:25Mark Shapiro:We kind of, when we bought IMG, realized where sports, where the distribution business was going and realized the value of live sports. That was in the representation business when we were IMG. And then we realized that we had a lot of the infrastructure to handle owning a sport. And we started out with bull riding, and then we moved and acquired the UFC. both went very very well and then when we saw a possibility of just a pure play with UFC and the WWE we kind of moved very quickly to that and now TKO is what it is yeah what it is is

1:08:09Pat McAfee:awesome and we're very appreciate obviously a huge part of our world WWE UFC everybody we know has to do business with you sorry gets to do business with you which is obviously two different they

1:08:18Mark Shapiro:get to do business.

1:08:20Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, with Mark Shapiro. Okay, so Mark, let's talk about this. Honestly, you two, great tag team, especially for TKO. You ran ESPN before we... Yeah,

1:08:28Fernando Mendoza:with George Bodenheimer and Steve Bornstein. That was kind of the lineage there.

1:08:32Adam Vinatieri:What year was that? What years were those?

1:08:33Fernando Mendoza:I left there in 2005. The wonder kid. But I started, I mean, as a production assistant way back in, you know, 93. It was like the beginning.

1:08:42Pat McAfee:Okay, so you are OG ESPN.

1:08:44Fernando Mendoza:Love ESPN.

1:08:45Pat McAfee:Now you're super suit with TKO and Mari and everything else.

1:08:48Fernando Mendoza:I've always been super suites, just to be clear. Okay.

1:08:50Pat McAfee:What is the business like right now for you? What is the projections of what should we be investing? What sport do you think is potentially going to come along?

1:08:57Fernando Mendoza:Look, I'll tell you this. Just the experiences and events business is a good place to be, whether that's Amari or that's a TKO or that's properties we have touching talented WME, by the way, William Morris. It's just folks want to be out. Youth wants to be out. Shared experiences, communal, get the phone going. They all suffer from FOMO. Like, we're playing right in the sweet spot of where it's going.

1:09:21Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's talk about you being super suit, having all the information. Why does football run everything? Ninety, what, six of the top hundred things were football, both college and the NFL.

1:09:32Adam Vinatieri:Why do you think it has become such a live sports, but also football being so dominant whenever it comes to attention and captivating folks?

1:09:39Fernando Mendoza:Look, both of them just have such, there's storied rivalries, right? There's rooting interest. It's very provincial. college. You got a lot of small towns and that's their life. I went to school at the University of Iowa. Hell yeah. Damn right. There we go. Iowa City, that is the pro team for the entire state. And you have that across the board with a lot of schools. And of course, the NFL dominates so much. They've done a great job with the schedule, spreading it out to different platforms, prime time, going streaming before anyone was going streaming. So they're in a good position. But I would just tell you, Pat, sports overall is in a great position

1:10:15Mark Shapiro:because it's not a passenger. This is one of the great answers. This is like he's got this down. He's like the greatest politician of all time.

1:10:22Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, well, we'll talk about that with you here.

1:10:25Fernando Mendoza:But think of that. All other content, there's a lot of passenger content. You go see a movie, you watch a TV show, you get excited, you laugh, you cry, but it's a passenger experience where sports is a participant experience.

1:10:37Mark Shapiro:But also live, whether it be live events, live music, live, you can't get around how great live is because you just never know. And in a world where, you know, you're just scrolling, you have to pay attention.

1:10:49Fernando Mendoza:And you know what enhances all that?

1:10:51Mark Shapiro:Sports betting.

1:10:52Pat McAfee:I thought you were going to say weed, but yes, I agree. I do agree that sports betting does. You talk about sports being the greatest. Obviously, we appreciate that you guys have done so much for sports and getting in a sports world. When sports are great, cities are great. Welcome back, Chicago Bears, bro. Yes. How about that? Huh? He's a diehard bear to actually go to us.

1:11:11Mark Shapiro:I got him into the Bears. Don't you think we should have gone for two?

1:11:15AQ Shipley:No. Watching the game, I thought so. We were actually sitting watching the game. I said they're going to go down score, and they're going for two. I was shocked that they didn't go for two. He was there.

1:11:23Fernando Mendoza:I'm going to tell you right now. We were both there. Our three sons sitting out, what was it, like two degrees for the entire game. We had a box with our family, and we sat out in the element. Had to, by the way. Let me just say something. Had to.

1:11:33Mark Shapiro:So they get the touchdown. Crazy. We go down. All the boys, which know each other, hugging. Jumping. Crazy. On each other. But then he doesn't go for two. For me, I don't know about Mark and his game. I almost lost it. I mean, I couldn't believe that we were not going for two. But you're at the 50.

1:11:49Fernando Mendoza:You're at the 50, and all you need is a field goal. You don't need to make that long throw to DJ. Just ball. Get in field goal.

1:11:58Adam Vinatieri:Okay, this is exactly what we were hoping this would become. You guys breaking down a game that doesn't matter. You're not in the Super Bowl. Okay, you're not in the Super Bowl. Seahawks are in the Super Bowl. We haven't been in a long time. No, you are not. What are you talking about? You're close, though. And I did enjoy watching you experience another ride with the Bears, though, because it was fun watching that city kind of get back in. But, Ari, obviously your family is synonymous with a lot of different things. You do business with a lot of things. Sports is the great unifier, I feel like.

1:12:22Adam Vinatieri:And I feel like you are a big-time driver for that.

1:12:24Mark Shapiro:Well, listen, we have made a decision that we're going to, a lot of our time right now is going to be in sports and live events in Mari. and when you have a live event you just the person next to you don't care if they're republican democrat independent you don't care you just like our experience it and so that's kind of what we feel is important my family kind of is in politics um my that's coming from my mom but that we we just want to have a good community a good conversation with people and have fun and And I think that's what live events in sports do.

1:13:01Fernando Mendoza:And just on the Mari side, just because most folks won't know necessarily.

1:13:04Mark Shapiro:He was just nervous I was going to screw something up, so he's kind of protecting me. That's not a bad idea. That's why he's here.

1:13:10Adam Vinatieri:I've appreciated that conversation. Ari will agree to something, and then all of a sudden I get a text from other people that are like, we just want to know how this is. This is a publicly traded company, you know.

1:13:19Pat McAfee:Okay, so we need a little bit more information, please.

1:13:23Puka Nacua:It's all above board. Yeah, of course.

1:13:24Fernando Mendoza:When the companies were splitting and WME Group was going private and TKL was going to be this big sports behemoth, we decided we wanted to bet on just events and experiences. So we started this company, Mari, which owns all these events and experiences from food and culinary to tennis to collectibles. And that's really what we've been investing in. And we've got a long line of investors, including Stephen Ross, the Miami Dolphins, and Jerry Cardinell, the Redbird, all folks that really believe in these communal opportunities.

1:13:54Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, we appreciate you guys taking your time and energy and talent into sport. Hey, do you think if the president was a Democrat, he would have came on or she would have came on during Veterans Day?

1:14:04Mark Shapiro:The president was a Democrat. Now the president is not a Democrat. Okay, all right, okay.

1:14:10Adam Vinatieri:What I'm saying, for the perspective of people that, like, murdered me for having the commander-in-chief on during Veterans Day, Can you please, as somebody who knows literally everybody from...

1:14:21Mark Shapiro:Used to represent the president.

1:14:23Adam Vinatieri:Okay, thank you. The current president, President Donald Trump, but also on the other side, I believe you have pretty good ties as well.

1:14:29Mark Shapiro:Brother work for that president.

1:14:30Adam Vinatieri:Okay, so can we please say to the world that no matter which political party the president, the commander in chief would have came on our show, can we say that?

1:14:37Mark Shapiro:Yes, you should. And we tried, right? Yes, we did. We tried very, very hard. Thank you for trying. No problem. Nobody cared that we tried. I want to let you know. Nobody cares that the Bears aren't in the Super Bowl except me. Okay. Well, I understand that.

1:14:52Adam Vinatieri:But I would like to let you know you have made our lives better, and you have also made sports better. So we appreciate that. The boys have some questions for you. Go ahead, AJ.

1:14:58David Tepper:Yeah, I guess Mark first and then Ari. I guess how do you – No, I get first billing. Yeah, you're right. What are you doing?

1:15:04Puka Nacua:What the fuck?

1:15:05David Tepper:That's why Mari is Mark and Ari, right? That's first billing for me.

1:15:11Fernando Mendoza:You guys have to fight that.

1:15:12David Tepper:No, no. We get on grid. But I guess you guys, like, you kind of have to forecast the future, how people consume things, how they watch things. I guess what does five to ten years look like from now, and how do you find a way to feel, hey, this is where everything is moving? Who do you trust? Just you two?

1:15:25Fernando Mendoza:Well, we have a lot of good banter back and forth. But, look, we just, like you, we try. You guys are so knowledgeable. I mean, I watch the show every day. You touch culture. You touch entertainment. You touch sports. You're all over the news. You have all kinds of guests on from all walks of life. And that's really what we do, right? We're reading. We're in touch. We're asking questions. We're making phone calls. We're taking trips. I mean, he's traveling around the world all the time, whether he's talking to current investors or soliciting new investors and just trying to stay one step ahead.

1:15:54Fernando Mendoza:It's tough, but that's the business.

1:15:56Adam Vinatieri:That's why he's already gold, honestly. That's why you are already gold. Every streaming platform is going to get into live sports bigger. It feels like Paramount Plus is making a big push right now.

1:16:03Mark Shapiro:Yeah. I mean, they have with us bull riding, our new boxing business, and UFC. They have football. I mean, they're in it big. Who else? And also. Is Apple TV ever getting in, do you think? How come they got the F1 deal? They got the F1 deal. Okay, okay. The pinnacle.

1:16:19Fernando Mendoza:Okay. Yeah.

1:16:20David Tepper:They got the pinnacle. They've had some baseball.

1:16:23Fernando Mendoza:Yeah, they had the MLS, too. A lot of things that people watch.

1:16:26Mark Shapiro:It's going to be interesting. I would actually like to know. Of course. I'd like to know Mark's answer on local, depending on what happens with the local broadcasts and where he thinks that's going.

1:16:35Adam Vinatieri:You're talking about Bally's, and then it became Fandle, right?

1:16:38Mark Shapiro:Main Street.

1:16:39Fernando Mendoza:Main Street. That's a tough place to be. Think about those revenues those owners had, those local rights. They need that. And those RSNs, and that's gone. So it's all messy right now.

1:16:49Adam Vinatieri:I think we know the guy running that, I think. He used to work somewhere else. Oh, no. D-Bud has a question for you guys.

1:16:56Mark Shapiro:I got to ask you, all right. See, I got top billing here. Thank you very much.

1:16:59AQ Shipley:What's been your favorite? Because I got caught up watching. I wanted to rush more exes. I want to say two or three days ago. It was the boxers. The boxing one. Which was great. I learned a lot about boxing. I didn't really know it was the casual. What's been your favorite one to shoot?

1:17:15Mark Shapiro:Well, I loved Tom and Peyton. Yep. That was incredible. I loved the one on bands with Jimmy Iovine and Rick Rubin. And I love Doris Goodwin and John talking about, we just finished it. Who would be on Rushmore if they weren't president? That was unbelievable Shut up, you called me up and said I learned a ton That was our lowest rated one Maybe somebody was on Some other stuff and you were like Into it at one point

1:17:52Adam Vinatieri:Well listen, it is a good show

1:17:56Mark Shapiro:And we just finished Boxing and we were just down in Nashville We did country music We took the show on the road

1:18:03AQ Shipley:Deebo, you just have Deebo live

1:18:06Adam Vinatieri:Deebo's the guy in the back

1:18:07Fernando Mendoza:Yeah, Deebo's the guy in the back He loves country. He does. Pat, can we talk boxing for one second? Yes, sir. Congratulations on Zufa. Thank you. That's a big deal.

1:18:17Mark Shapiro:He's doing a bumper right now.

1:18:19Fernando Mendoza:This isn't any self-promotion, but to your question, AJ, where's it going, what's next, what's hot? Boxing is a big opportunity for us. We got Dana White and Nick Khan driving this. There's a lot of history of fights that should have happened that didn't happen. corruption, pay-per-view, closed circuit. I mean, like it really went away, yet it's been around for 100 years. So if we can make a UFC, a boxing, think of that, really a closed league. We're signing 200 fighters right now, consistent fights, weight divisions that you understand. We're already on Paramount Plus, and we're about to announce some international deals.

1:19:00Fernando Mendoza:This could become the next behemoth. How close are international deals? Very, very. We should be announcing some of the next week. Congratulations to Netflix. No, no, no, no, no.

1:19:10Pat McAfee:No, no, no. Okay, we're going another way. I like that. I like what you're doing.

1:19:16Mark Shapiro:Yeah, but when we did the big event for Netflix and there was at Allegiant, there was 70 ,000 people. Canelo Crawford. You realized that kind of boxing is ingrained. I think that business for us could be as big as our UFC business and our WWE.

1:19:31Fernando Mendoza:UFC right now, UFC and WWE are$20 billion properties. 20 billion each. So boxing, if it's 5, if it's 10, give us some time. That's a huge grower.

1:19:42Mark Shapiro:You know, if I said this and I put out numbers, he would be freaking out. It's all public. It's all public information. Of course. He'd be freaking out. I can't believe he got away with that.

1:19:53Fernando Mendoza:The point is, when people get excited about TKO, that's one of the reasons they get excited.

1:19:57Adam Vinatieri:And we like keeping our shareholders happy. Let them know that everything that's happening here.

1:20:00Fernando Mendoza:Oh, he kisses a lot of babies.

1:20:03Pat McAfee:I'm shaking hands and kissing babies. I do a lot of that, Ari. That's kind of my thing, too. You've learned that. Yeah, Connor has a question for you guys.

1:20:09David Tepper:Yeah, Ari, you're going to answer first, but it's for both of you, the question. I appreciate the order. Now they don't even want to. They're afraid to say it. Yes, they should be. They show fear. There's no fear. Assumption, not fear. But when you're looking at the UFC, the White House fight, the card, I think Dana last week said he was working on it all week. How's that shaping up? And I believe the president said 100 ,000 people stadium they're going to build. What's the situation? with that guy. Yeah, he's counting the Fan Fest in that. Yeah, yeah. So, at the

1:20:38Mark Shapiro:White House, I think it's 3 ,000. Yeah, 3-4 ,000. 3-4 ,000.

1:20:43Pat McAfee:Intimate.

1:20:44Mark Shapiro:Yeah. South Lawn. So, and then there'll be other in other areas. And Dana's working on it right now. There's going to be approximately six to seven fights. June 14th? 14th, yes. 14th.

1:20:58Fernando Mendoza:Flag day. And our president's birthday. No, just coincidence.

1:21:02Mark Shapiro:So he hasn't said to us what the card's going to be, but I know they're working pretty hard at it right now.

1:21:11Adam Vinatieri:Okay, how do you feel about that coming together? White House, your sport, everything like that, because obviously whenever we chat about it, it obviously draws a lot of things back. I think sports are a great uniform. I think we need to continue to do that for the good.

1:21:24Fernando Mendoza:By the way, that's a spectacle. That's when we went last year to the Sphere. That White House event is a spectacle.

1:21:30Mark Shapiro:I mean, I don't know. It's going to be CBS, Paramount. I mean, I don't know who's not watching that fight.

1:21:35Pat McAfee:Okay, and a quick follow-up. What suit would you fight?

1:21:39Darius Butler:That's a good question.

1:21:42Mark Shapiro:There's so many that would want to kill me, and I'd want to kill. There's just so many. He got an opportunity. Yeah, would love it.

1:21:48Pat McAfee:Hey, he's a wrestler, by the way. Would love it. Yeah, he's a suit that can get down.

1:21:51Mark Shapiro:No, but there's a lot that would want to get in the ring and kill me.

1:21:55Fernando Mendoza:In the later chapters here of his business career, he's winding down. He's cool. He's calm. Really? You lost his fastball. You lost his fastball.

1:22:06Mark Shapiro:There's the politician. He's trying to calm everybody. No, you're really calm CEO. Yeah. Shut up.

1:22:12Puka Nacua:But no fights.

1:22:14Fernando Mendoza:He gets excited. There's no fisticuffs here.

1:22:16Puka Nacua:People are saying it. It wasn't me saying it.

1:22:20Mark Shapiro:He called me yesterday. He goes, it's down in the 80s, the fastball.

1:22:27Adam Vinatieri:It wasn't me that said it. It was the other person that was on the call. was like, Ari, wow, I didn't expect you to understand something like that. And I'm like, holy shit.

1:22:33Puka Nacua:This guy just said Ari lost his fastball. That is an incredible time.

1:22:37Darius Butler:Last question for you guys. Go ahead, Ty. Seeing as both of you guys are Bears fans, have you thought about or come to grips with the possibility that the Bears will be located in Gary, Indiana?

1:22:48Fernando Mendoza:It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. And what is going to happen there? I thought you were a good business guy.

1:22:52Adam Vinatieri:They're giving them the whole town.

1:22:53Fernando Mendoza:So what's so wrong with it, Mark? We do not. They're called the Chicago Bears for a reason. I don't even like Arlington Heights. I don't even like a dome on that stadium. I mean, Halas is turning over right now. A dome in Chicago. The elements, by the way, that Rams game was so good, even though we lost, because of the elements. And you're taking that away? Fuck off.

1:23:13Mark Shapiro:Whoa! Whoa! Love it. Next time, if we ever get invited back, we're going to tell you the story about how we met. Crazy story. It's a total Ari Gold story. Perfect classic. He came in with a Nerf gun?

1:23:29Fernando Mendoza:No, we were on a plane. Okay. Oh, nice. Didn't know each other. Happenstance. And by the way, we went to like rival. Feels like you're going to tell me a story right now. No, we're rival high schools. I mean, we're right by each other growing up in Chicago. Lying back from New York. And then we meet on a plane, though.

1:23:43Mark Shapiro:And, you know, in first class, of course, first class, there's two seats and a middle seat, two seats and a middle seat.

1:23:50Fernando Mendoza:Harry hasn't seen a commercial airline in about 20 years. Okay, so wait a second.

1:23:53Mark Shapiro:I'm sitting there reading everything, and there's this guy. I'm in the middle because I don't want to talk to anybody. There's this guy sitting right next to me and a man at the window. This guy's typing. It's a Friday, 3 o 'clock flight, just typing. I've read everything about three and a half hours. It's about a five-hour flight, winter. After four hours, I'm like, what the effing is this guy doing? I get up. It's dark. Keep in mind, it's dark. I get up, guy at the window. I said, get up, sit in my seat. He goes, excuse me. I said, what the eff did you not understand? Get up, sit in my seat.

1:24:25Mark Shapiro:Now, at that point, today's ID. Arrested. Arrested. Yeah, yeah. He gets up, sits in the seat. I go. He's freaking out. What's going on?

1:24:35Fernando Mendoza:No, yeah. I didn't stop, though. Yeah.

1:24:37Mark Shapiro:I turn my legs. I look at him because I'm at the window. What the F are you doing? Fast friends. Really? Yeah. What was he doing? Was he trying to get out of something? The president's report for Bob Iger and Michael Eisner.

1:24:51Fernando Mendoza:At Disney.

1:24:52Mark Shapiro:At Disney.

1:24:53Fernando Mendoza:Before he took over ESPN. Just take those New York to L.A. flights and get all your work done, right? Yeah, good job. He's editing. Who actually gets up, though? Think about that. He's a psycho, yeah. I mean, just – and he screams at the guy, and he actually gets up. Yeah, look at him. That's the best part. Yeah, that's the best part. And now we got Maury.

1:25:10Mark Shapiro:And now we got TKO. Guess what? Fast friends. Every Friday we would have a call because he had put on the only scripted show on ESPN, which was a hit. Playmakers. Playmakers. Oh, it was a great show. Great show. Absolutely classic. And we would then – I would try and sell him programming. There would be tons of people on the call. He wouldn't buy anything. And then he would say, take it easy. Talk to you later. Became fast friends after that. Joined the company.

1:25:34Fernando Mendoza:He's like, I need somebody that can run with me, but also isn't afraid to say no. And that's really how we got going.

1:25:40Adam Vinatieri:That's an incredible relationship. You two are a nice little tag team, I will say. Thank you very much. It is a good yin-yang kind of watching you guys bounce there. How do you feel about the new head of Disney?

1:25:49Mark Shapiro:Great. He's incredible. Josh is terrific. Josh is terrific.

1:25:52Adam Vinatieri:You guys are like watching that. That's a pretty big deal. All those moves are big for you guys, right?

1:25:56Mark Shapiro:He's a great guy. Dana Walden, incredible. Really good executive team. They're huge partners of ours, right?

1:26:01Fernando Mendoza:And now we have all our PLEs from WWE on ESPN Direct to Consumers. And we want them to do well.

1:26:09Adam Vinatieri:We would like them to do well. Yeah, certainly we would too. On that note, I don't know if you heard the conversation with Tepper. I was already negotiating with him. I don't know if you heard it. Yeah, I did not. The number's only going up.

1:26:21Fernando Mendoza:You're negotiating with the right guy. Yes, I am. Get the checkbook out, baby.

1:26:25Adam Vinatieri:You're right, I appreciate the hell out of you guys. Thank you for everything you've done for us. Thank you so much. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Ari and Marc Chaput. Yeah.

1:26:32David Tepper:All right, appreciate it. You too. Thank you, dude. Appreciate you. Enjoy yourself. It looks sweet.

1:26:42Appreciate it, buddy. Thanks very much.

1:26:43Puka Nacua:Good luck out there.

1:26:45Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, good luck out there, man. Make sure you guys really shake those hands at this Fanatics Fest. Hey, Mark. Hey, make sure you go shake those hands at this Fanatics Fest. Make sure you're shaking all the hands. Mark, all the hands.

1:27:05Puka Nacua:Okay, all right, Mark. All right, Mark. All right, see you. Okay, all right. Mark's still talking about Playmakers back then. I get it. It was a great show. I don't know what's happening.

1:27:17Adam Vinatieri:He is always at 100 miles an hour, and then Ari is always just like, I was going to say, which one?

1:27:21David Tepper:They have a great little team.

1:27:23Pat McAfee:Mark always comes in with a soft, you know, there's like good cop, and then there's Ari, and then there's more coming in. Well, what he means by that is actually this, this, and this. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy who not only looks sweet, has a new haircut, friend of the program, up for a bunch of awards, and only going to continue to do as such. Oos, out of BYU, wide receiver for the Los Angeles Rams.

1:27:47Puka Nacua:Pooker.

1:27:47AQ Shipley:Yeah.

1:27:50Puka Nacua:Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Look at those shoes. That was great juice. Wow. Wow, those are boots down there. Wow, puka.

1:28:01Darius Butler:Puka, puka. Sweatpants are sweet. Yeah.

1:28:05David Tepper:Did you call them sweatpants?

1:28:06Darius Butler:Eat me some.

1:28:07Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I didn't think so. Dress, but I can see they're cotton. They're like linen? Yeah. A blend, if you will. We're talking about the fabric of your pants. Hey, let's talk about how cool you look.

1:28:16Ari Emanuel:You look very cool. You like the shoes? Look at them. Okay, so those are boots, modified boots. 100%. This is one of my teammates, Jesse. He was on our team this year. This is his brand. He got the shoes. I'm like, trying to make sure I rock him for the ball. I thought it looked good for my outfit.

1:28:30Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, what's the name of him? Do you know? Akami. Akami? Akami.

1:28:39Adam Vinatieri:Tell us about the season. Obviously, you went crazy, dude. New haircut, by the way. He looks good. I appreciate it. What went into the decision? That feels like a big decision.

1:28:47Ari Emanuel:It was. I'm like, my mom nugs it, though, so I feel a lot better about it. I was a little concerned. When I got off the chair and I woke up that next morning and I felt it back in my head, I said, I'm bald as hell. I'm bald as hell. I'm like, I'm losing it all. I feel a lot better now. Like, somebody told me I look good yesterday. I was like, all right, say less. You do.

1:29:02Adam Vinatieri:Luke, I think you're going to look good doing whatever. And let alone your paychecks, which are only going to grow. But you're incredibly handsome, affable, and awesome, which is why we love you. Incredible season for you guys. Obviously, quarterback wins the MVP last night. He announces he's coming back. Can you take us through the ride that was the year for the Los Angeles Rams?

1:29:20Ari Emanuel:Man, when they're showing the freaking highlights of our season and they're showing highlights of the other team, and we've got to watch our freaking block field goal kick against the Eagles, and I'm like, God, short of my line, I love you so much, dude, and I'll punch you square in the face. I'm like, we have beef right now. And I'm like, as far as I've never got to watch us throw a missed freaking pass on fourth down, and I'm like, I've got Coach McVay behind me and Matthew Stafford to my right and all his daughters, and I'm like, I shouldn't say the F word right now, But I really, really want to.

1:29:47Ari Emanuel:Yeah, reliving the end. I really want to. I'm like, I don't care where Roger Goodell's at. I'm going to say it. I'm like, I'm hot mic right now, and I'm still going to say it. But it was so fun. I'm like, Matthew's the absolute best. He's the absolute dog. He makes it so fun. I knew he was coming back, and I still almost had a front flip in front of my mom. I'm like, it was too awesome. I'm like, E-40 was out there. I'm like, we in the Bay Area. I was trying to see this song. Yeah, you were getting it. You were getting it. I was trying. We were teeing up at the spot, bro. Yeah, your energy.

1:30:14Adam Vinatieri:is immaculate. So everybody from the Rams knew Stafford was going to say he was coming back, or was that kind of just a few?

1:30:20Ari Emanuel:I wouldn't say everybody knew. I'm like, I hope he didn't tell everybody I wanted to feel special.

1:30:27Ari Emanuel:I thought that conversation was between me and him, but who knows?

1:30:31David Tepper:AJ has a question for you. Yeah, when you talk about Matthew Stafford, how is he still doing? He's the MVP. Was he 39? Is that correct? He's 37, 35. Whatever it is.

1:30:39Ari Emanuel:70.

1:30:39David Tepper:I guess how have you guys grown like since you've gotten there like and played with him how has your like relationship grown from day one till now how does it feel oh I'm like from day one to now I'm

1:30:49Ari Emanuel:like he can't stop me from talking I'm like when I got there I didn't say a word it was just him going on and I guess this is where I need you to be this is what's playing this is where you're lining up hey when I tell you that I tag you at the end of the play make sure you do what I told you to do we have some conversations now and I try to keep them updated what's going on in the world it's 2026 I'm like I know you got four young daughters I'm just trying to prepare you for What's going on coach? That's very nice of you. That's a good teammate.

1:31:11Adam Vinatieri:That's a good teammate, especially with how potentially out of touch he would be when he's sleeping in a trailer with the immortal. Are you in there? I'm in the immortal.

1:31:18Ari Emanuel:That's the best 15 minutes of my life. I'm like, I unplug from the world. What do you do? I'm like, you put on this little nose thing. There's a lady that she has the most soothing voice. You all have played Halo. A real lady or a robot lady? It's a robot lady. All of you have played Halo. Sure. What is the - Cortana. Cortana. It's, yes, it's literally her voice. While you're laying down, red light comes down.

1:31:41Ari Emanuel:You got the whole thing in your nose. It's 50 minutes. Is it oxygen? 50, 5, 0? 5, 0. Where's this at? At the facility? They have a couple different options you can do, but I'm like, 50 minutes. Yeah, they have a trailer. You guys saw the old Airstream, like 1992 or 54, whatever it was. I'm like, no, I don't have those vehicles anymore. So I don't know what that is. 54, 92. Yeah. 9 plus 2 equals. Is it over your whole body? Red light over your whole body? 11, yeah. There's a lot of math in there, yeah. We've got a lot of numbers coming together. Yeah. My routes go to 15 yards.

1:32:14Ari Emanuel:Hey, we tried. I'm like, hey, we ran double moves off and asked Tariq Woolen. I'm like, that's my guy. I'm like, hey, that 15 yards, you're going to chow to your feet. I'm out of there.

1:32:21Adam Vinatieri:And you got the speed. You got pull-away speed, by the way, which is so weird because of how powerful you are. You're not supposed to be as explosive and breakaway as you are. You are powerful. You're an anomaly, Puka. And maybe it's because you guys are all asleep. Everybody's in this thing?

1:32:33Ari Emanuel:Everybody. Coach McVay. Coach McVay's in the morning. He's got a little attitude. The run install didn't have that great. I'm like, Coach, let me rephrase that. Coach has a tough morning because we all weren't listening to what he was saying. I didn't communicate what I needed to do or where he wanted me to be on that motion. But he goes and gets in the Immortal, and we come back, and we have a great walkthrough. I'm like, it's fantastic. God. It's the future. It is. They're sending us one for the office, right?

1:32:57Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, can't wait. We're going to park that thing right inside the entire Thunderdome. D-Bot has a question for you.

1:33:01AQ Shipley:Obviously, it's super important the relationship you have with your quarterback. but you came into the league. You had Cup there to kind of take you under his wing. And then you got Devontae Adams and one of the best route runners, one of the best wide receivers in his generation. What's it been like being his teammate? And what did you do differently outside of the chamber this year? Because you dominated wire to wire. Every defense knows 12 is getting the ball. Where is he going to be? But you still dominated with another guy who led the league in touchdowns. Like, what was it like this year?

1:33:27AQ Shipley:What did you do differently?

1:33:28Ari Emanuel:Man, I can think about the first time we were in February. We don't run slants in our offense. I don't know. We're in the offseason, so I can say these things. You can watch the tape. It doesn't really matter. Coach McVay is still going to find a way to scheme you up and get us the ball. You can try your best. But I'm thinking about that we are in April, and I'm standing on the 40-yard line. I'm right behind number 17. He's running a stop route. The ground is shaking as he's stopping. He's 20 yards away from me. Then boom, boom, boom, transition, out the break. three steps technique sound crisp and it's april and i'm like i gotta be better i gotta be better i got so much to work on and the communication and the understanding of trying to be on the same page obviously was our quarterback but then on the same page as a great wide receiver and uh i'm grateful for that guy we had so much fun together one two and one seven i were i i played high school football wearing ankle sock because of davante adams but when we walk out in the on the football field.

1:34:32Ari Emanuel:I'm like, he's dapping me up. He's like, go do your thing 12. And I'm like, bro, I done made myself the quarterback so I could throw you the ball, bro. We got a handshake. We flexed. We're doing everything on them. And it was cool to think about, man. They said at the beginning of the NFL season that the Rams were going to have the best wide receiver room. And to walk out of this season and say that we were the best wide receiver room. And every single week, you had to make sure that you were going to try to stop us. And you couldn't. Yeah, it's a great feeling.

1:35:02Puka Nacua:Oh, no.

1:35:04Adam Vinatieri:I said yesterday, right, to Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins.

1:35:06Puka Nacua:They're the best duo. Uh-oh.

1:35:08Ari Emanuel:Oh, yeah. They didn't make the playoffs. How could they be the best? I know. I'm just saying I said it right to their face yesterday. Well, they were here. No, I'm like, you can retract the statement. Look at the camera. Look at it in the –

1:35:19Adam Vinatieri:Singleship?

1:35:19Ari Emanuel:Are you guys – the stats would say that you two, by far – Stats would say he led the league in receiving touchdowns. I think I led the league in receptions. I'm like we had probably almost 3000 yards. I'm like there's a whole lot of touchdowns on the field.

1:35:34Adam Vinatieri:Do you know the quarterback's name for Chicago?

1:35:38Ari Emanuel:The Iceman. There you go.

1:35:41Puka Nacua:There we go. So this year's best water receiver, though, certainly in Los Angeles. Wait, wait.

1:35:47AQ Shipley:You should wait until he shoots. Jamar did make his first shot. Oh, yeah, and you are a hooper. Yeah, and you are. What's the ball out? Okay, hold on.

1:35:55Ari Emanuel:Can we ask you one more question? Oh, 100%. I'm like, he's just calling me out in front of everybody. It's my job to step up to the plate, coach.

1:36:03Adam Vinatieri:And that's why we love you, Puka. By the way, Chayden's sick. Everything is awesome, right? Tone has a last question for you before you have to shoot. Another reason why we love you.

1:36:10Ari Emanuel:Wait, the Patriots guys didn't have any questions for me? No, he does, he does. We don't have much time. Hey, coach, I'm not leaving. You want to kick me out already? I'm like, I just got here. I thought we were friends. Big use. Big use. Come on, man.

1:36:22Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Don't get offended so easily, but another reason why we love you is because you're so tapped into everything which leads me to a question do you have plans to go skydive?

1:36:30Ari Emanuel:I think I could fly I'm like I believe in it I'm like the world is our oyster that's what they say coach and I'm pretty confident I could do skydiving thing I'm like there's a lot of things that make you feel a rush and a thrill in life and it was good to eat I think one of those would be good that's two words I've ever said in my life coach.

1:36:50Adam Vinatieri:Not only that I remember when ever Todd needed to go to the hospital whenever we were in Los Angeles, you put them on your back and walked them all the way to the hospital. So thank you for doing that. And remember Tone's dog was running free. You picked that thing up and you saved it.

1:37:03Ari Emanuel:And I brought it back to his house and I was like everything. I fed it. I gave it his treat. I took it to Starbucks. We got a little puppy cup. He flew us private on his own dime.

1:37:09Adam Vinatieri:That was very nice of you to do that. You were the pilot. That's so cool.

1:37:13Ari Emanuel:Remember I do the helicopter. I brought us all out. Yeah. I'm like Pat, remember when we went to Indianapolis, you showed me how to do all of these things. I showed up and it because of you. And the way you cook, too, I mean. The only thing that's ever done wrong is lie about being a good bowler.

1:37:27Adam Vinatieri:Oh, yeah? What happened with the bowling? I forget. You're kind of ass. Weren't you ass or were you really good? I don't remember.

1:37:35Ari Emanuel:I was amazing. You guys set me up. I'm not going to do it again. You show me your bowling. Stand right here and show me your bowling. Set it up. Here we go. Act as if rain shine is here. Hey, we just started the game. My name is Swaggy P at the top of it. I just went strike first frame, sailed, done and over. We had a cool intro animation. And oh, that's right down the corner. Look at my right to the left.

1:38:04Puka Nacua:Check the watch.

1:38:05Ari Emanuel:Check the watch. Check the watch.

1:38:08Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Who do you think you are?

1:38:09Ari Emanuel:He is. We're not bowling with the bumpers. We're grown men. We're not bowling with the bumpers. You needed the bumpers. That was a part of the problem.

1:38:16Puka Nacua:We watched your shit last year. I think we were forced to watch it, weren't we? It's awful. And it was the worst bowling I've ever seen. You guys asked me to do that. I know, yeah, yeah. It's 100 % on us. Yeah, we do a lot of stuff for us. We are selfish. Hey, are you excited for the game coming up? Am I excited for the game?

1:38:29David Tepper:Yeah. I mean, it's the only thing I think about Puka for the last two weeks.

1:38:32Ari Emanuel:I hope you're praying to the Tom Brady gods because it's – Well, he's not even on the Patriots, actually. No, they're going to need him. Somebody's going to have to adopt his skills before that game happens. Whoa.

1:38:44Puka Nacua:Drake, you talk a lot of shit on Indianapolis, too. You remember that? Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:38:48Ari Emanuel:I don't have any beef with Indianapolis. I just don't think anybody actually wants to be there. I'm like, I don't.

1:38:53Puka Nacua:Jeez. No harm, no foul.

1:38:58Ari Emanuel:I'm just telling you my thoughts. I apologize. I'm like, I love that you're there, but you never invite me anymore. What? Is that real? You're too busy. That's not true. Too busy. I'm like, I'll drop it. I'm like, I try to call Zito every Tuesday, and he never answers my phone. No, Zito's moved out of the back room. Out of the back room.

1:39:16Adam Vinatieri:He's taking care of the facility. All right. Here's the deal. Representing the number one wide receiver room in the NFL. Tay, you heard him say it.

1:39:25Puka Nacua:Tay definitely makes this, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:39:29AQ Shipley:Watch the Brown highlights for every game. Yeah.

1:39:33Ari Emanuel:Every game, bro. This dude is 40, and he'd be doing it. I was like, that's our quarterback. It's just like our quarterback, bro. 25 years, he'd be showing us highlights. I'm like, yo, this film is great. Yeah. This film is great, dude. They got nothing on the field. They don't even – I'm like, this is absolutely insane.

1:39:51Adam Vinatieri:He's leaving the Lakers, though? Is that what's happening? What do you – I know trade deadline came and gone, but they're saying – Shams had a rough – Shams. Boy, Shams. It's all right, Shams. Stand tall, Shams. Stand in there, Shams. Yeah, tough one. He's been saying for a long time, Giannis probably gone. And then – Giannis is gone? Well, it turns out.

1:40:08David Tepper:It was true. And then they flipped at the last second, and Giannis said, I ain't going anywhere. And now Shams looks like the village idiot again.

1:40:16Ari Emanuel:I like what they did to a show. It's like him and Miles Garrett. I'm like, I hate, I don't want to be here. Hey, look, I'm back, guys. Thanks, everybody. I appreciate it. Yes.

1:40:27Pat McAfee:Yes. Buka starring in a Toyota Super Bowl commercial. Let's go.

1:40:32Ari Emanuel:Hey, we're coming out to Daytona. I'm going to Daytona 500. Let's go. What are you doing? Are you a starter?

1:40:37Adam Vinatieri:Are you driving? What are you doing?

1:40:38Ari Emanuel:Me and Bubba Wallace. I'm going to be right next to Bubba Wallace. Riding around in our Toyota car.

1:40:43Adam Vinatieri:Skydiving in maybe with a date. Now we're talking about it.

1:40:46Ari Emanuel:American flag me bald eagle Sydney Sweeney from Wow parachute we're coming down hey I think it'll be pretty cool

1:40:59Pat McAfee:kind of guide around so I think you'll be able to find out hey see look over here this is the other side of Daytona yeah hey if you ever get over here it's where

1:41:06Ari Emanuel:the adult ballet is on the here's where the beaches look at look at the ocean Tell them to bring out the whole ocean right here. Look at this. Oh, now you can do a whole Moana thing right there, too,

1:41:16Puka Nacua:if you want to get into it.

1:41:17Ari Emanuel:Make way, make way.

1:41:20Puka Nacua:Yeah, these are all great ideas.

1:41:23Ari Emanuel:I'm just rolling off the top.

1:41:24Adam Vinatieri:Congrats on the Toyota commercial.

1:41:26Ari Emanuel:That's a big deal. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, it's a blessing. I haven't showed it to my mom. I'm like, they've obviously sent the rough draft over. But I'm like, I want to be watching the game with my mom and see her reaction to us being on the thing. I'm like, it'll be really cool. I didn't even tell my mom about the thing with Tiffany last night. And I'm like, hopefully my mom thought it was cool. I'm like, hopefully Tiffany thinks I'm cool. Your mom thinks it's cool. Yeah, everyone thinks it's cool. You are cool. Because you let me hang out with you. That's the only reason. Yeah, right.

1:41:51Ari Emanuel:It all started with you.

1:41:53Pat McAfee:And the sweatpantsies. What do we got going on here, Coach? That's cool, yeah.

1:41:58Ari Emanuel:The old brick. You know the deal. That's real. Mm-hmm. Are you waiting for me to shoot the shot? Yeah. Do you think you're going to make it or no? You don't look satisfied, Coach. What do I need to do? Long night. Long night. Me or him? Yeah, we've had a long night. Who have you talked to? Both of you. I'm like, you got the Patriots. I know you're not satisfied. It's been a tough couple weeks. I'm like, you've been surprised. Like, I'm surprised you got that much hair on your head still.

1:42:19David Tepper:I mean, I don't know why you're saying this to me. If we want to go into the NFC title game about you guys blowing it, we can't. No. What's that all about?

1:42:28Puka Nacua:I'm standing. I'm standing. Hey. I'm standing high.

1:42:31Ari Emanuel:Hey, please. I hope you guys stayed. Hey, you guys ran one trick plan. It worked. I'm like, you better pray to the gods. You have five of them in your back pocket, coach.

1:42:37David Tepper:We didn't even score on that free flicker play. I know.

1:42:41Ari Emanuel:You guys couldn't score. You guys couldn't score. That's actually what happened. That's in the past.

1:42:45David Tepper:We scored enough, brother. We don't need to score that much.

1:42:48Ari Emanuel:No, 100%. I'm like, but in order to win this game, I'm like, you guys better pray that Tom Brady walks out on that field.

1:42:53David Tepper:I don't think so. No, I'm comfortable with this guy right here. Boom. Head coach. Okay? We got Brady. Maybe he'll get one.

1:43:01Ari Emanuel:How about the lady yesterday? She said the winner of the coach of the year, Mike Vabel. Yeah, that was good. Verbal? Verbal. I'm like, I can't read, but I know she can't.

1:43:14Pat McAfee:As we wrap up here on ESPN with Puka Nakua, noted reader. We will continue digitally. Oh, Insane Shano is here. Obviously, all the boys are here. Good to see all the boys here.

1:43:27Ari Emanuel:Cowboy, how's it going? Can I ask what that mouth do? Is that crazy? Sorry, what? He's got the best mouth on the Internet, dude. Insane Shano. You guys, he's got a marshmallow. Throw it over here. Pat, are you going to be mad at me? No, yeah, we got 10 seconds, Shane. No, no, hurry, hurry, hurry up. Shane, we're about to miss this, Shane. And I want to shoot a basketball, so you better hurry up. Kobe.

1:43:46Puka Nacua:Boom, Shane.

1:43:48Ari Emanuel:Don't.

1:43:50David Tepper:Kobe.

1:43:51Puka Nacua:Hey, we got 10 seconds.

1:43:51David Tepper:He's got gum.

1:43:54Pat McAfee:All right, we continue digitally. Have an incredible Super Bowl weekend. We'll make our picks. We'll be back for overreaction Monday. The best. All right, we'll see you then. Hey, great work, Shane-O. How the baby, Shane-O. Shane-O, you killed it, Shane-O. Good catch. Have you ever missed one? When did you start just sucking down everything that was tossed your mouth away? What's that? Can you come to this podium? Power lifter? Yeah, power lifter.

1:44:18Ari Emanuel:These are the worst marshmallows in the world. That's because it was in his mouth. He doesn't eat them.

1:44:24Adam Vinatieri:He spit that thing right in your mouth. Spits them out. I got a second one.

1:44:30Ari Emanuel:Show me that technique. I want to see it.

1:44:33Adam Vinatieri:The keystring one? You just make sure you get them into the game? I think Insano. Shano. Mike's coming high for me. Shane, I apologize. We have it set up for different. Joe Flacco was there yesterday. Normal-sized humans.

1:44:45Pat McAfee:And Shano, Insano, Shano, we saw you at the college football playoffs. Then I went through a rabbit hole of your shit. You do have the best mouth on the internet. I appreciate that. Pause. Yeah, well, no pause, though. No pause, though.

1:44:59Adam Vinatieri:Can you explain how you and your friends, is Fat Stafford here with you?

1:45:03Ari Emanuel:Yeah, Fat Stafford's right here.

1:45:04Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, Fat Stafford back there did not win an MVP. Do you know Fat Stafford? Do you know this crew? I know.

1:45:08Ari Emanuel:I'm like, where is your – you're pretty – I'm pretty sure we got to hit you in the nuts, dude. I'm not – I don't know. I don't know how it works, the videos. I've seen the videos. That's how it works, dude. I'm like, you showed up here. I'm like, we're going to throw something at you. So, yeah. So, when did you guys decide? Assume the position. Yeah, that was going to be your thing.

1:45:23Pat McAfee:You just start tossing stuff at each other. I appreciate how good you guys are throwing shit at each other. I appreciate it, yeah.

1:45:28Puka Nacua:It takes a lot of talent, a lot of practice. Invite a Coco is paying you guys to be here? Yeah, yeah.

1:45:33Ari Emanuel:That's good. When can I get invited to the lake, bro? I'm a lake boy. Come on. Can we get on the boat?

1:45:38David Tepper:Yes, sir.

1:45:38Ari Emanuel:On the boat? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Do you have any marshmallows that can hit you here? The way you just said for sure, that was the biggest lie. He was like, yeah, yeah, for sure, bro. Like I'm a little kid, bro. Come on.

1:45:46Puka Nacua:Yeah, we'll let you on the boat, kid. I'm driving the boat. Can I throw you a marshmallow here through this? You think you can get through here? Yeah, I think so. Oh, shit. Come on, bro. Is it heavy? That was gimmick, bro. This marshmallow. This is a gimmick. Marshmallows? He just, this thing's pretty thick. I did not expect the thickness of this thing.

1:46:05Ari Emanuel:The girth is going in for his mouth. That's why he's going in for his mouth. I'm not right now. He's restoring them. This is crazy.

1:46:11Puka Nacua:Oh no. Overhand. All right, this one. Yeah, yeah. What is that? Send it to me. Yeah, there you go. Get that one.

1:46:19Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Get that one. Get you that.

1:46:21Puka Nacua:You got a couple. You got a couple, please. You got a couple, please. You got a couple, please. You got a couple, please. Yeah, hold on. Just spit it out. Yeah, you want to spit that one out. Shano, you want to do it?

1:46:29David Tepper:A couple substances in there.

1:46:30Puka Nacua:Nah, we're sorry. We're going to want to get rid of those. Right there, Shano. Throw them back in here. Shano, we appreciate you, man. I can catch it. Thank you for the contributions. I can catch it. Thank you, brother. I'll catch it. I'll catch it.

1:46:41Ari Emanuel:Puka, you got to actually shoot here for real. All right. Charity Super Show. Coach, what you got on the wrist? I got a little... Looks good. I'm like, a little bite link? I just wanted to be like you, man. Are you going to come to NBA All-Star Weekend? I'm like, that's where it all started. Do you remember that? Yeah, we went to bat for you to play. You're supposed to play. No, I know. That's why I'm like, I had to show out. I'm like, everybody told me that my team said, do not step in the paint. I said, I got to show up for big lose. And you did. He put me on. Yeah, and you're a great player.

1:47:08Ari Emanuel:I think I'm going to go back this weekend. Are you? Are you coming to L.A.?

1:47:11Pat McAfee:No, no, no.

1:47:12Ari Emanuel:You're not? Are you going to come to Daytona? What? Daytona? Yeah, we're going to. Daytona. We never miss that. We're skydiving in with you, I think. Every year. I'll tell Bubba, hey, Bubba, I really love you, dude. I need you to scoot over so me and Pat can drive the car.

1:47:24Adam Vinatieri:Consider racist, I think, if you did that. You need to stop and think about it. You kick Black Bubba Wallace out and put me in there? What is this, NASCAR? Jesus Christ.

1:47:32David Tepper:Just give him the Ted McMillan thing. Yeah, you're right. The Ted McMillan.

1:47:35Ari Emanuel:I forgot. I forgot about that. Give him another. It's for the culture, brother. He's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course.

1:47:43Adam Vinatieri:All right. Charity Super Shot here with Puka. If you make it on your first attempt, will give$20 ,000 to a charity of your choosing. If it's a second or third attempt, only$10 ,000. Are we losing money over here? No, we're making money. We're making the world a better place.

1:47:56Ari Emanuel:I thought we were doing more. I'm like, you're always taking care of everybody. You want$50 ,000?

1:48:00David Tepper:Man, that would have been nuts. Yeah, that would have been very casual.

1:48:05Puka Nacua:Okay,$50 ,000 to a charity of your choosing. You're a Braun guy. Find it, Puka. But when you shoot it.

1:48:13David Tepper:Okay, understandable. I agree. I'm serious, I just want to share. Kobe's elbow is tucked.

1:48:18Ari Emanuel:Am I supposed to? Come on bro, that's a rock. There's no reason he shouldn't catch that in his mouth. All right, last shot here, Puka, please. $50 ,000 to a charity you're choosing. Have you made a shot? What's up? Have you made the shot?

1:48:30David Tepper:Yeah, but not on camera, off camera.

1:48:32Ari Emanuel:I'll give you the opportunity. No, it's your work. It's 50 grand, 50 grand's online. No, 50 grand, I just want to see him shoot. I'm like, this is not for 50 grand, but when I shoot it, it'll be for 50 grand.

1:48:40Adam Vinatieri:So what do you want to say? You're saying you're paying for this one? I'll pay for this one.

1:48:46Ari Emanuel:I knew I wasn't gonna pay for it.

1:48:52Puka Nacua:All right, this guy sucks.

1:48:57Puka Nacua:Okay, this is your last attempt.

1:48:59Adam Vinatieri:We have somebody in the back who's a national champion, okay? Please have a little respect for him. Tips and overthrows. Got to have him. That's champion. You know, it's not BYU.

1:49:09Ari Emanuel:Dude, I mean, if I was playing everybody that's in their division, I wouldn't have been to shoot. Big guy, you're out.

1:49:22Adam Vinatieri:We love you dude. We love you. Bailey don't eat both of those. See you buddy.

1:49:27Puka Nacua:See you coach. You don't want to eat both of those Bailey. See you coach. For your journey. Yeah. I'll tell you what if he would've ate those. Come on Puka. Puka you're the man.

1:49:34Pat McAfee:All right coach. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now is an absolute icon.

1:49:40Adam Vinatieri:A man whose name is gonna be synonymous with greatness. A man who's going to have a statue. It may be multiple cities that he stops at through his playing and football career. We are thankful he chose to head to Bloomington, Indiana. From Cal Berkeley, ladies and gentlemen, national champion quarterback,

1:49:58Puka Nacua:future first pick of the NFL draft, Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, Fernando. Yeah, Fernando.

1:50:07David Tepper:Big old dude.

1:50:08Puka Nacua:Yes, 6 '5". Yes. People forget he's 6 '5".

1:50:13David Tepper:What a giant.

1:50:14Puka Nacua:Ty kind of got Sicilian out there. Jeez. Congratulations.

1:50:22George Kittle:Thank you.

1:50:23Adam Vinatieri:You know how to handle it, you're a superstar.

1:50:26George Kittle:You crushed it on Jimmy Fallon. I appreciate it, thank you. I got a lot of, I mean, you guys taught me. You guys all taught me. Thank you, you're welcome. And I saw you guys at Aiden Fisher on the show. Yeah. It was like a week ago. And you are right, you guys have some amazing fits and they're on the back of the end zone. and so it was like third down and goal before the fourth down touchdown. I'm like, wow, those guys have some good fits. Thank you. Thank you. Jake Paul, roasting your blue.

1:50:48Adam Vinatieri:Okay, roasting. He was all fired up. He had his jaw restructured too. Who knows where he was at the time? It was a little signet-y jaw. Let's talk about your jaw. You're a tough dude, bro. Appreciate it. Hey, let's talk about the fourth and five. The Fernando special. The impossible finish for you in your hometown. When you decide to go and give it a go, and I think the field goal is potentially out there, then now we're going to go for it. And then you take it for yourself and you make that play. In your mind, are you thinking about anything? Are you thinking about how all your work your entire life leads to this one play?

1:51:22Adam Vinatieri:Like, how do you kind of compartmentalize that? And then immediately afterward, what is the sense throughout your entire body? Like, we probably just won the national championship on maybe the greatest play in the history of Indiana football. Honestly.

1:51:32George Kittle:Yeah, when you put it like that, you make it seem like the last scene of a movie or something like that. Which it will be. Which it will be. But honestly, I thought we were going to kick the field goal. I was like, okay, let's get up six points, keep it in range. Our defense is great, great defense. Let's kick the field goal. He called fourth and five, and it was a quarterback draw play. And I'm like, man, game on the line, I want to throw the ball, but screw it. Whatever, I'll run the ball. And I ended up dropping back, have a little eyes away, and I just started going. And when I started going, I'm not supposed to go to the left because the line is sliding that way, and I just take a U-turn to the right.

1:52:06George Kittle:It's like I missed the wrong exit on maps. all of a sudden I'm getting pinballed back and forth. Apple Maps will do that. And it was – Apple Maps will do that. They'll screw you. And then all of a sudden I see the end zone. I just – I blacked down. I just reached out, and it was phenomenal. I honestly can't thank God enough because I don't know how – I'm not that athletic. That was God. Yes, you are.

1:52:25Adam Vinatieri:I think obviously God is a massive part of you being that athletic, but I don't think a lot of people have seen you play ball. I think a lot of people think, oh, Cal Berkeley transfer. This guy is Cal Berkeley guy. He goes to Indiana.

1:52:37Pat McAfee:Indiana okay that is a NIL transfer portal conversation we don't need to have cow to Indiana sweet that is not real and then all of a sudden the way you take to Indiana and the way the team kind of buys in and you and Signetti do it it's one of the most special seasons in the history of college football undefeated the most amount of games since what Yale and like whatever

1:52:56Adam Vinatieri:1894 1894 or whatever when you guys are getting into that run of the playoffs you feel something special you feel like you're playing your best ball at the right time and how do you guys kind of manage that and what are the conversations like through the run well first of all was your

1:53:07George Kittle:wife excited when she had. Yeah, she was down there.

1:53:10Adam Vinatieri:I just want to let you know the amount we paid for a suite to watch you do that.

1:53:15Pat McAfee:Worth

1:53:15Adam Vinatieri:every penny. Yeah, exactly. But it was a special night, man, for Indiana. But honestly, nobody really expected it. Even though Indiana had a good year last year, your transfer, everybody thought it was kind of over. At what point do you guys realize, like, hey, we do have something special here? And then playoffs, you just

1:53:33George Kittle:smack folks around. When did you guys know, you think? So when I first got to Indiana, And everybody always says player-led teams are the best teams. And when you see Aiden Fisher, Pat Coogan, really putting people in line and really saying, hey, we're expecting to win. We're not on any of that losing stuff. And really holding people accountable, I was like, oh, we're going to be special right here. We're going to be special. And we had a little three-game stretch where we killed Illinois. Then we came back from Iowa. We beat Oregon. I'm like, oh, we're going to be a good team. We're going to be in the college football playoff.

1:54:02George Kittle:Then after we beat Ohio State, we all were like, we're going to win this whole thing. I mean, I'm sorry, AJ, but after we beat Ohio State, we had the confidence. I mean, Coach Sig always made sure to humble us because he's very humbling. But after that game, we had the confidence, and no matter what, we're a resilient team. So we can go down, but we know all the boys are going to rally together and end up putting a good drive together and end up stealing the game.

1:54:26Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, fun team to watch. AJ, Ohio State, Buckeye has a question for you.

1:54:29David Tepper:Yeah, I guess what's the plan look like now? Like, where are you going to work out? What are you going to do? You're the presumed number one overall pick, obviously, how that goes. but uh you are dude yeah who are you gonna work out with what are you gonna do with the combine have you thought anything about the whole throwing which you don't need to do anything the combine honestly but have you thought about all of that going forward yeah so talking about

1:54:47George Kittle:all of my agent and at the combine you know you're throwing at different receivers the whole different thing and i want to make sure i give my guys the best chance so i want to throw a pro day with my guys with my running backs and be there with the boys the combine i don't think throwing is gonna be a priority just because it's such a quick turnaround january 19th i mean i feel bad Like a lot of the guys in our team, like luckily I'm in a better position that I don't get a throw in the combine. But a lot of our guys, we had Kalon Black playing the senior bowl. Yeah. Game 17, that's a true NFL season.

1:55:17George Kittle:You know, and all the other guys, they're busting their butt, training already. And, you know, I've started training already down here in California. And it's just been a great process. And like everybody always says, whenever I watch interviews or ask former NFL players like you guys, they say, hey, this is an eight-week interview. You got to give it your all, limit the distractions, and really lock in because where you go and how you set yourself up in front of these GMs and in front of these teams is going to change your life forever. So I'm making sure I have my head to the grindstone. And like you said, I just want to help my guys pro day throw to the boys.

1:55:49Adam Vinatieri:Okay, on that note, your rookie year is your longest year regardless. Now that your rookie college seasons are longer than they've ever been, I mean, we're about to learn a lot about you guys. I mean, you guys are going to be like case studies on what is going to be college football into the NFL because how long that season was. Did it feel like a grind? Because you guys are beating the hell out of everybody. I mean, the extra games. You guys are smoking everybody. It's a long time. That is a very, very long season together. You guys were able to stay healthy, I guess. Is that kind of a massive piece of it?

1:56:18Adam Vinatieri:How would you kind of describe the run?

1:56:19George Kittle:How long? Our strength coach did a great job, but it's an NFL season. And with the college format nowadays, we didn't play. We didn't basically play a game in the month of December. So stupid. So it's so weird. You're there playing Ohio State December 6th, and you have a whole entire break until January 1st. So it was like really kind of a weird patch where you can recover, but you're also anticipating the Rose Bowl. And I don't know about the system. It would just, yeah, that was really weird. So it made the season feel a lot longer than it is. But whenever, as a fan, whenever, or, you know, a former NFL fan, because now I'm going to be playing in the NFL.

1:56:49George Kittle:Yeah. Whenever you hear, congrats. Whenever you hear NFL players talk about, wow, the season's long, is a toll on the body. As a quarterback playing 16 games, and honestly, like the Miami game was a fight. The Ohio State game was a fight. But every game in the NFL, the margins are small, and they're all going to be like that. So to go through 16 games that are going to be dogfights. I can see how it can take a toll on the body and it's going to be crazy because most players get a month off two weeks off but January 19th straight to draft training. So like you said we're lab rats right now. Yes you are.

1:57:21George Kittle:I mean God please keep us healthy. Amen.

1:57:24Adam Vinatieri:I think the more people learn about you through this draft process the more they're going to like you. You're huge.

1:57:29Luke Kuechly:Yes.

1:57:29Adam Vinatieri:I mean you are you're absolutely huge. Your accuracy is outrageous. There was a story I think Jen Lada told me about about Surat maybe sending you videos of back shoulders before the season. Is that accurate? That is accurate. Okay, that becomes a massive piece of your offense. I think your ability to spin the ball is a separator. I think your accuracy is outrageous. I think your athleticism is crazy. I think your toughness. As you project to the NFL, you've got to be very excited about how you're going to handle the men's league, right? I think you feel pretty comfortable about what's coming.

1:57:57George Kittle:Yeah. The NFL and college are two different skill sets. The NFL, you need to be able to process it faster, get tougher, and get smarter. And so I'm really excited for the new challenge and opportunity because there's going to be some failures rookie year. But I'm excited to turn those failures into successes because it's going to be a new skill set and there's going to be a learning curve. Everybody always says, the quarterbacks I've talked to, is the most I've learned is usually my rookie year just because of the jump. And so I'm really excited for that. And like you said with Surratt, and it's all about the preparation with the guys.

1:58:26George Kittle:So however the rookie year goes, I know at the end of my rookie year, no matter whatever happens, I know I'm going to be able to put my head on my pillow and sleep well at night knowing I did everything possible to have the best rookie year possible, however it goes.

1:58:39Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, and you go to Planet Fitness every day to get after it, or what do you?

1:58:42George Kittle:Well, you know, Signetti, I mean, he's a tough cookie. I mean, Signetti said, hey, I had enough of you, Mendoza. I kicked you out. So now I can't go back to Indiana. So now I'm working on Planet Fitness, you know,$15 a month right here, and, you know, before Radio Row, get a quick workout in. And like I said, I mean, I'm in draft prep, and draft prep, obviously I love hanging out with the boys, but draft prep is number one. And so I got to stay prepared, got to stay, you know, ahead of the edge because a guy like me, like you said, although I'm a big guy, I'm not the strongest. I'm not the most athletic, but I got to stay ahead of the edge and stay ahead of the curve, and the Planet Fitness allows me to do that.

1:59:15Adam Vinatieri:You're way more athletic than people just look at you. You're way more strong and tough than what people look at you.

1:59:20Pat McAfee:I'm excited for people to learn about you. There's free fitness training included with all memberships at Planet Fitness. Holy cow. Planet Fitness has thousands of locations across the country, many of which are open 24 hours a day. That's huge.

1:59:32Adam Vinatieri:If you want to do the Mendoza midnight hours, you can kind of get in there and get after it. Ain't that right, Fernando?

1:59:37George Kittle:That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

1:59:38Adam Vinatieri:You're saying you go hang with the boys drinking water, go to play and fitness, get a second, third workout, and go do your thing?

1:59:44George Kittle:Drinking water, that's hilarious.

1:59:45Adam Vinatieri:Okay. Here's with the boys as well. Go ahead, D.

1:59:48AQ Shipley:I want to go back to that national championship, and you talked about it's a movie. And you being back at home, you know, with your little brother, obviously Pons, you got Jamari Shabble, got a game-winning interception. What was that like mentally going into that game, knowing that that's the stadium? That's the stadium you grew up basically looking at, the team you probably rooted for as a kid, and that's where you could end it with the trophy you did. How was that going into the game, though?

2:00:09George Kittle:Yeah, I'm going to go back. This is a blessing, my God, because all the guys that are from Miami, Sharp, D 'Angelo Pons, those guys had some of their best games. And myself, also being from Miami, having a great play there, all the guys from Miami elevated their game in the national championship in front of their family. So what a special moment for all those guys. But, you know, other than the national championship, I want to talk to you about this AI stuff.

2:00:33AQ Shipley:Oh, okay. You know, my friends are like, come on.

2:00:36George Kittle:I mean, obviously great NFL player, but always talking about Fernando Mendoza's AI. Oh, no. I like that. We got to talk about it now. No, you're real.

2:00:47AQ Shipley:You're a South Florida kid. I just asked you a question. You gave me an AI. Look, I'm the AI. I got a certificate in AI. Yeah, he does. He does. I think I can spot him, but I was wrong. We talk about it all the time. I think you'll be great in the locker room. This is a part of it. I got to fuck with you. No doubt.

2:01:03George Kittle:No doubt. No doubt. And honestly, the reason that, I mean, I took a lot of public speaking courses. I never thought I was going to make it in football. Her boy was a two-star recruit committed to Yale. I'm like, I got to make those networks somehow, you know? I got to try to get in the skull and bones. I got to try to be president. Okay. You know a little bit what you're talking about. No, I'm joking. I know it's all jokes. Of course, man. I appreciate it.

2:01:25Adam Vinatieri:You talk about being with the boys, though. I think that's the part that really elevated it in my eyes. Because of the AI thing, you are Cal Berkeley. You're a nerd, okay? You are a nerd. Football, you are a nerd as well. But you're allowed to be. Nerds have been very good at football for a long time. But I think some traits of some nerds is not able to connect with meatheads or sport people. I think you have been able to connect to your teammates, and you go out of your way to be able to do that, drinking beers with the boys, celebrating with the boys, building a relationship with the boys, working with the boys, and then showing up in the biggest moment.

2:01:55Adam Vinatieri:That's why I think you're going to be NFL guy of the future, and we're excited to watch you work.

2:02:01George Kittle:And I appreciate that. And it's, although I say, you know, drinking beers with the boys and stuff like that, for me, I had a lot of leadership failures at Cal. And I was always trying to be a raw, raw guy. And at the end of the day, I'm like, hey, people like people who are authentic to themselves. I'm going to be myself around the boy. I'm going to be an authentic Fernando Mendoza. And along with that, I'm going to show my teammates I care about them. So when they say, hey, Fernando cares about you, and he's also authentic, like, yeah, Fernando's a nerd. It is what it is, you know? If you have those two things and mix them together, it's led to a great group of guys.

2:02:30George Kittle:Yeah, I think so.

2:02:31Adam Vinatieri:You guys brought me. You've been a great leader. So you're drinking, like, IPA. What are those beers that the – Yeah, IPA. You drink IPA. You drink the Hoosier beers. What is your go-to drink of choice when you're with the boys?

2:02:43George Kittle:Yeah, honestly, when I'm with the boys, like, you know, everyone just gets their drink of choice. And so I would say, like I said, I was a college student, especially, you know, pre-NIL, I'm for whatever gets a job done. That's a good answer. You can't be picky, you know.

2:03:02AQ Shipley:The beggars can't be choosers. He's young, smart. I got an eye on that. We would drink some bullshit. Yes, we were. Yes, we were.

2:03:10Adam Vinatieri:Bacardi, 151. Yeah, you got to do it. Don't do that, Fernando. Con man has a question for you.

2:03:16David Tepper:Yeah, Fernando, we've talked about it. Number one overall pick. It is inevitable almost. Have you started to look at, you know, Kubiak's offensive system? Have you started to think about, you know, kind of that first interaction with new minority owner Tom Brady? I know you mentioned about him being kind of that dream dinner interview, if you will, with Tom. Have you kind of put yourself through that process, or are you just kind of focused on working out at Planet Fitness at midnight and just getting ready for what's to come?

2:03:45George Kittle:So evidently, I'm very focused on working myself and working the draft process. But throughout this entire season, we actually had a little bit of a Kubiak kind of McVay system, not for our RPO system, but for our play action. And the way that he's able to incorporate outside zone and get the edge with the run game where the running back either collect the edge, hit the hole, or cut back and be able to do play action off of that, blue leg off of that. And the way he's developed Sam Darnold has been phenomenal. So I've actually watched, just being a football fan before he got hired, watched a lot of breakdowns of his film and how the Seahawks have gone.

2:04:17George Kittle:That's been a big story. How the Seahawks and the Patriots have gone from, you know, on the fringe to all of a sudden Super Bowl contenders and Super Bowl, like about to win a Super Bowl, each team. So I've been actually, before he got hired, I watched a lot of film and a huge fan of his work. And Tom Brady, he's been a huge football idol of mine. And the way that he has processes and systems and the way that he talks about his leadership is something that's always resonated with myself. I've never been the strongest, never been the biggest, and never been the fastest. However, the way that he prepares and really has a process about going about things and having discipline, because guys eating avocado ice cream or pistachio ice cream.

2:04:54George Kittle:Having that discipline has really inspired myself as a young guy who wasn't always really highly recruited and was usually an underdog. Now, I'm an upper dog. I've got to prove it every single day. You are an upper dog. I am where I belong. Yeah, you are an upper dog. But as having that underdog story, it's someone that I've looked up to for a long time.

2:05:11Adam Vinatieri:Are you going to do a shirtless photo at the combine like Tom or no?

2:05:14George Kittle:Have to. Have to. I think it's mandatory.

2:05:17Adam Vinatieri:I think you're allowed to do whatever you want, Fernando. I think it's mandatory. Hey, you're the number one overall pick, brother. I think you'll be allowed to do whatever the hell you want. Now, on that note, you won't, though. It's just why we think you're going to be incredible. Ty has a question for you.

2:05:27Darius Butler:Have you been able to, like, kind of sit back and just, I mean, like you mentioned, Pat said when you first came on, like, going on foul and you're on the Today Show. Obviously, everyone talks about the craziness of you guys going and winning the national championship. But did you, could you ever have imagined that you were going to do all this stuff, you know, after, even after the Heisman? Like, you've basically lived every kid's dream for the last, like, two weeks. Have you had a moment to kind of just like really collect yourself and be like, man, this is unbelievable? Or is it kind of just, hey, the NFL draft's the next thing.

2:05:57Darius Butler:I kind of just got to keep moving and do what I got to do.

2:06:00George Kittle:Yeah, I know. Like you're right. The Fallon Show, the Today Show, and the McAfee Show. I mean. That's a good sell. That's a good sell. It's been great in December. When they started December, you know, winning the – after the Ohio State game, winning the Heisman. There's still a lot to prove. There's still a lot to prove, a lot of question marks. You know, maybe the Heisman wasn't as strong this year. However, I've always kept that fire, you know, under all of our butts. And, you know, we were able to have a great playoff run and able to win a national championship. And after winning a national championship, I let it sink in for a week and a half.

2:06:31George Kittle:Because at that point, you've got to collect, you've got to reflect, you know, see what you did well this season, see what you could work on, but also just enjoy it. That's what football's about. It's about enjoying it. It's about having fun playing football. And after that week and a half, all the boys, we've all been shipped out to different places in the country, starting to train, starting for the draft. but I think it's really important to reflect on the season, enjoy it because it is a success. It is a success. And if anything, I'm not as happy as I think I am. I would have been. And obviously it's all great.

2:07:00George Kittle:And if you told me like a month ago in December, Hey, you're going to be on the Fallon show. You're going to win the national championship. I would have probably fainted, but now I'm just like, wow. Like I got to chase that feeling again. And so for all these great things that happened, it's such a blessing by God. And it's been such a great week and a half reflecting on it. But now, like you said, it's time to get to work. and time for the next step.

2:07:18Adam Vinatieri:Oh, you got addicted to the confetti. That's right. It's kind of how it goes. What a cool moment. Can you tell me about Signetti a little bit as we go on? I saw you did an impression of him with Caleb. I thought you nailed it. I thought you absolutely nailed it. Tell me about Sig, because people are talking about him being, like, maybe greatest coach ever, period, let alone, like, football, but just, like, leadership and coach as a whole. You are going to be back in Bloomington five years from now, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, 30 years from now, 40 years from now, reunions, okay? The statue probably going up for you.

2:07:46Adam Vinatieri:Sig will probably still be there. It's kind of the way this is kind of going. Can you tell me about Signetti, why he was the perfect guy for you as a head coach and then also perfect for Indiana?

2:07:54George Kittle:We talked about the college system. Nowadays with NIL, the power is shifting more to the players. However, Coach Sig has kind of gone back to that hard-ass mentality where he's going to rip you. He doesn't really care about his feelings. He cares about winning. And so in the day and age where coaches are trying to be all friendly and relate to the players, he's the exact opposite. it. He's a CEO, he's a feared leader, and he's a respected leader. And so with that, he's able to run a hell of an enterprise, a hell of an organization. And from the top down, everybody knows it's about business every single week.

2:08:24George Kittle:It's about preparing to the best of your ability, and you can never be complacent and never be satisfied. And I think that's what makes the Indiana Hoosiers so special. I love it.

2:08:31Adam Vinatieri:Hey, I see you do the LinkedIn stuff. Just remember, LinkedIn's for people that don't actually do it. Like I said before, I didn't know I was going to the NFL.

2:08:39George Kittle:So the first couple years of college, I was actually doing LinkedIn, getting two internships, and I was like, all right, here we go.

2:08:44Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, LinkedIn's a big like, hey, this is how it's supposed to work. We've never actually done it, but this is what we think it should be. You know, it's a great place for suits. We are very thankful that you are in our football world, and what you're about to do to the men's league, we're excited for everybody to see. You're a special talent. We're going to be lucky to have you involved. Now, will you do a charity shot? Of course. Now, I didn't like the way he was throwing those records. Yeah. Yeah, he screwed up your rhythm a couple times, too.

2:09:09David Tepper:Yeah, he's going to be better. You know, I'm more of, you know, I wish it was a little higher.

2:09:13George Kittle:Yeah, sure. You know, because sometimes a little bit like bowling balls, I had a little like side arm.

2:09:17Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, Jimmy, you should make it a little difficult. The one he threw over his head, you not hitting him in the temple. That was awesome. That was good restraint.

2:09:23George Kittle:I thought you were going to let it rip.

2:09:24Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, that was good restraint out of you.

2:09:25George Kittle:Yeah, it was good restraint. Don't want to, you know, he's a host of the show. Don't want to mess with him. Who knows what would have happened to me, so I'm just, all right. A legend there.

2:09:32Adam Vinatieri:Hola, aquí estamos mi amigo.

2:09:35George Kittle:So, you know, the last time he started. What the fuck? How come you guys don't speak Spanish? And you're trying to bait me into speaking Spanish. And I can. And I can. And, you know, from conversation with my grandparents, I'd be very, very disappointed if, you know, if I didn't come in my Spanish A game. Which you did at Heisman. Spanish A game. So I came in my Spanish A game at the Heisman, and I understand how much it means to the Hispanic community, especially because, I mean, Hispanics, like Jacob Rodriguez, the Pavia, like all Hispanics in football, we're rising up, we're rising up. Yeah.

2:10:06George Kittle:And to have that connection in the Hispanic community is huge. Huge.

2:10:10Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, and you don't know this. You don't think about this because you're just living your life. Roger Goodell heard you speak Spanish in that Heisman thing. It was like, fucking need this guy.

2:10:18Darius Butler:This guy. We got a guy. This guy.

2:10:22Pat McAfee:Going back to Mexico City.

2:10:23Adam Vinatieri:Instead of Spain, instead of Mexico.

2:10:25Puka Nacua:Let's go ahead and get a game in Cuba.

2:10:27Adam Vinatieri:If we can, yeah, let's get a Raider. I mean, that is what they're thinking. It's like everything about you screams like face of a franchise, man. So you should be incredibly proud. Your parents are awesome, obviously, learning the story about your family. It's been great, brother. We're incredibly proud of you. Now, can you make a shot for$20 ,000 donation potentially? That'd be great. Oh, yeah. For Planet Fitness, maybe.

2:10:47George Kittle:Honestly, I would say. Fitness people are out here.

2:10:48Adam Vinatieri:Whoopity, whoopity. We're doing it out here. We're doing it out here.

2:10:51George Kittle:Okay. But for real, like, I believe God has given me this platform. I've been so thankful for you guys, you know, shouting out my mom and her situation and raising awareness. I think today we just hit over$275K from multiple schools of National and Mass Society. Hell, yeah. I mean, what a great cause. cause dear to my heart, and I'd make the shot for it. You know? Okay. I'm not much of a basketball player because when I was in middle school or high school, I wanted to get on the basketball team, but I was like a center, but then there was a guy named Cameron Boozer and Caden Boozer.

2:11:21Puka Nacua:Oh.

2:11:23George Kittle:At that point, I'm like, I cannot play basketball. That's an NBA player. That's not me.

2:11:28Adam Vinatieri:This is just like a state fair type game.

2:11:30George Kittle:State fair. Oh.

2:11:32AQ Shipley:Nice. That was good.

2:11:35Adam Vinatieri:50-stop. Oh. 50 ,000 now. Donation. In between those two. You're Fernando Mendoza. We know what you're about to do.

2:11:47George Kittle:It's all right. One more. I'm joking. Last one. Last one. Bang.

2:11:59Adam Vinatieri:Nice win. We appreciate you stopping by. 50 grand to the charity of your choosing that you just described talking about in Tackling MS, which we, yeah, we're thankful we got to follow you, man. Honestly, you made me look really smart a couple different times for game day, and I'm very, very grateful for that. That Oregon game, man, and I've said this a couple times this week because people have brought it up. They're like, how come you're the only one that liked Indiana or whatever? It's like, I think I was the only one that was, like, watching Indiana. And I've never been more sure of something in my life that you guys are going to win that game in Oregon.

2:12:29Adam Vinatieri:And then watching you guys continue to get better through it all, the Penn State magic, let alone everything that you guys did this year, so cool to watch. You made us all incredibly proud to be in Indiana and we enjoyed the hell out of the ride. You deserve everything coming to you.

2:12:42George Kittle:I appreciate it. I can't tell you enough how much everybody in the training room loves watching the Pat McAfee show. How much the boys in the locker room enjoy the show because, you know, the media is treated Indiana a certain way, but this show has been so great to us and it's really like, it's the epitome of Indiana. Come on! Come on! I appreciate you guys.

2:13:00Adam Vinatieri:Hey, how about this? Muchos gracias, mi amigo.

2:13:03George Kittle:Gracias, Pat. Buena conocerte. See, I love that. You're pretty good. Ladies and gentlemen, Fernando Mendoza.

2:13:11David Tepper:Fernando. Thanks, buddy. Good luck.

2:13:15Adam Vinatieri:All right, let's take a break. Let's take a break on the other side. We got Shefty here, I still, I believe. Nice.

2:13:21Puka Nacua:Go pass, baby. Kittle's here as well. He's scooting around. You're the man.

2:13:26Darius Butler:Thank you, guys.

2:13:28Puka Nacua:God bless you. Did he see us? Generational.

2:13:31Darius Butler:Yeah, he's a great guy. He's a great football player. He's a great guy. I don't know what else you can say.

2:13:36Puka Nacua:He was not the number one quarterback. Oh, yeah. It was Moore. What was that? College football playoff. I forget which game.

2:13:43Adam Vinatieri:It was Peach Bowl. Yeah. Peach Bowl. I'm up there sitting on the game day set. Fernando Mendoza's generation. We're talking about maybe the greatest of all time. Across the bottom, lower third. Mel Kiper Jr.'s projected draft. One, Dante Moore. Two, Fernando with an A next to it. Maybe Bane on the other side. I'm like, what? What are we doing? This guy's 6 '5". I don't think that is the thing that's kind of talked about enough.

2:14:08Pat McAfee:He's a giant, and he can spin it. And if you put him with a Raiders team that already has a running back, already has some weapons, if they can protect him, why not the Raiders debutt in Fernando?

2:14:18AQ Shipley:The trenches. Obviously, AQs can tell you a lot more about it than I can, but you've got to build around it. You've got to protect him and let him get out there and do what he does. Obviously, in the air, but he's a great athlete as well. He can get out there and hurt you with his legs, which defense is hit.

2:14:29Adam Vinatieri:Uh-huh.

2:14:30AQ Shipley:Yeah.

2:14:31Adam Vinatieri:All right, let's take a break. We've got George Kittle. We got Schefter and we wrapped the show up from Radio Row the same way we've done the last few years. It's a magical time to be alive on this feel-good Friday, just days before the Super Bowl. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. Take five.

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2:16:40Pat McAfee:It's the best. We've been celebrating it all week here in beautiful San Francisco, California.

2:16:45Adam Vinatieri:It's been so fascinating, our experience here, where what we expected it to be versus what it actually was, let alone the buzz being palpable from every single angle of this city. It's also been incredibly hospitable, clean, and it does feel as if there is a massive thing happening this weekend. And that's good news because this weekend a massive thing is happening. The biggest on earth, maybe the biggest football game in the history of ratings will happen between the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots as the Seahawks remain four-and-a-half-point favorites for about two weeks straight now.

2:17:17Adam Vinatieri:Since the game has been set, this is how it has been. The public betting has been on the Seahawks side all the way up over 70 % at one point over the last two weeks. The books have not budged. They think Sam Donald should win by at least five points against the New England Patriots. We cannot wait to watch. We'll give our official predictions here in a matter of moments. The Talks at Tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, we got a good Iowan coming on. Feels like there's been a lot of Hawkeyes popping through here. I know.

2:17:45Darius Butler:It's crazy, right? It kind of always comes back to the Hawks. Mark Shapiro, you know, that was a pleasant surprise. I did want to, you know, maybe let him know, hey, look what Indiana just did. If you want to give$50 to$100 million to Iowa football. Yeah, why is he not doing that? We could maybe go win a national championship next year.

2:18:02Adam Vinatieri:Mark Shapiro, incredibly good business person. I think he's kind of in the, so how does this work? So I'm just giving a bunch and we're hoping. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's do that. But that is kind of how the NIL world is. And that's what Signetti was selling at Indiana. Like, hey, you give me the money, I'll find the right people. But there's been a lot of places they get the money that don't find the right people. So is Kirk going to be one of the guys that helps if Mark Shapiro gives him$20 million? Are we going to get the right guys in there? Because I saw a quarterback transfer three, four, five times over the last couple years.

2:18:33Adam Vinatieri:And Granowski certainly worked. If we're going to continue to hit like that, maybe Shapiro will be in.

2:18:38Darius Butler:Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm willing to go to the Supreme Court to try to get Granowski another year of Iowa football. I don't know if it's going to happen. He was the MVP of the East-West Shrine game. So there's a chance that he's the number two quarterback taken behind Fernando Mendoza. Oh, probably number two. Yeah, maybe number two overall in the first round. So we'll see. But, you know, yeah, it just it's possible. And the guy who is going to be coming on, like I told him, too, hey, you can pony up a couple.

2:19:05Adam Vinatieri:A couple mil.

2:19:06Darius Butler:You can pony up a couple.

2:19:07Adam Vinatieri:I mean, he's in the middle of a lot of things getting back to being healthy and everything like that. We certainly love him. Is he the one that has this documentary IMAX rig following him around? Do you see this camera that's out here? I do. Yeah, he's nodding. Yeah, that's unbelievable. That's really incredible. I don't know what's happening, but they're making something special, as they should, because he is one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tony's here. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Super Bowl champion A.J. Hawk is here. And joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man, who's a former fifth-round overall draft pick from Norman, Oklahoma, but an Iowa Hawkeye legend.

2:19:41Adam Vinatieri:Two-time first-team All-Pro. Seven-time Pro Bowler. One of the founders of Tight End University. Ladies and gentlemen, San Francisco 49er staple, George Kittle. And George! They see him rolling. They hating. The electricity's vibrating. What's that? You got a headset right over there if you want to. Hey, yeah, I should get up for you. Yeah.

2:20:11Drew Brees:Oh, hey, how you doing?

2:20:13Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, it's fine. No, you should go. Yeah, yeah, no, that was on me. You're working, man. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm not at all, actually. You are the one working, actually. And I know that whenever you're around, I know that you're going to smell so good. Thank you so much for bringing that great scent over here. What is that? What are you selling? Oh, everybody already got some. Yeah, interesting. On my desk, too, when I came out here. How'd that get there?

2:20:32Drew Brees:Well, because we're potentially Old Spice people, if you are. It smells good. right? You know, we're revamping our swagger over here. And look, you even got a little bar on the bottom of your scent intensity. You could choose how strong your scent is now. So, like, you can have that huge aura, like Trent Williams, just kind of walk into a place, you own it. Or you could be more subtle and just kind of sneak around.

2:20:52Puka Nacua:So, to be clear, I can't just turn it down.

2:20:54Drew Brees:I try to do that on the way over here. They're like, no, no, no, no, no. Each scent has its own intensity. It's a good intensity. Yeah, so it's

2:21:01Adam Vinatieri:just basically telling you what you're doing. Like, hey, am I walking in and smelling like, what was the shit? Axe. You remember Axe used to be you'd walk in there and everybody knew you didn't take a shot.

2:21:10Puka Nacua:This guy didn't take a shot. That's what people would say.

2:21:13Pat McAfee:Now with the sun intensity here, it's like, hey, I'm actually not an Ash Cheeks. Wow, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, you guys have had a hell of a Super Bowl week, I think. Don't you guys think? From standing on each other's backs and stuff? I think you guys have been really crushing it.

2:21:28Puka Nacua:They've been good. Do you guys wear Old Spice or no? You want an Old Spice? Yeah, you are.

2:21:33David Tepper:She fired it out. What's your set intensity?

2:21:36Puka Nacua:What's your scent intensity, Will?

2:21:42Puka Nacua:Yeah, it's because you don't shower. That's what we're talking about.

2:21:45Drew Brees:Nebraska. It's a Nebraska thing.

2:21:46Pat McAfee:Smelling like ass cheeks. Turn the scent intensity up. Hey, great work this weekend season, boys. Proud of you guys.

2:21:51Drew Brees:You guys are fantastic.

2:21:52Pat McAfee:Hey, in Nashville, way to battle.

2:21:55Adam Vinatieri:Way to battle. Way to battle. You guys survived the war. Way to battle out there. Okay, let's get back to that. Nashville, obviously, where you call home, too. I know. I wasn't there. I was out here. Hey, Barry's scary. We would like to send OTs and Ps to Nashville and everywhere else.

2:22:06Drew Brees:We got power. We had no power for like two weeks at our properties, which was kind of crazy. I think they said all power is supposed to be back on the 8th, so I don't think there's even power back yet.

2:22:17Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, it's scary for a lot of people. We obviously send positive vibes to everybody. You talk about power, and then you talk about vibes. We've got to talk about your stadium and your facility.

2:22:25Drew Brees:Oh, what do you want to talk about? No. Old Spice, is that what you want to talk about?

2:22:31Pat McAfee:Maybe old problems becoming very, very new in the world with the science that we have.

2:22:37Drew Brees:You've had three Niners on now, right? Same answer. Same answer. What did they say?

2:22:42Adam Vinatieri:It's been there a long time. You're the fourth Niners, actually. Yeah, Jerry Rice has been doing this. Now, Christian McCaffrey said he turns off Wi-Fi when he goes to bed, so we know that he certainly has looked into this.

2:22:52Drew Brees:Christian's very aware. Yes. Very aware. You all are there, right?

2:22:55Adam Vinatieri:Because of the world that we're in right now.

2:22:56Drew Brees:Well, yeah. You know what? Kyle Yusek actually had a great point. He was like, look, as a professional athlete, you're doing anything you can to get 1 % better. Red light therapy, ice tubs, you know, stem cells, whatever you're doing trying to get 1 % better.

2:23:08Darius Butler:You're in drinking. Well, what? Yeah. What? AJ did. AJ. Ice cold ice.

2:23:12Drew Brees:But what about something that is like making you 1 % worse? And so, like, if this substation is making you 1 % worse, wouldn't you want to know about it? Like, even if it's not like a debilitating thing that's doing all the things people are saying it's doing, it's making you 1 % worse, wouldn't you want to know about it?

2:23:24Adam Vinatieri:Yes, absolutely. And I'm happy that we are. And we hope that they get to the bottom of it. Now, the other side is certainly going to say 0%. It has been for a long time.

2:23:32Drew Brees:But it's also, when they built a stadium there, they quadrupled the size of the whole substation. So it's like, so when some people were practicing there back in the day, it was this little thing probably the size of this space right here. And now it's a massive, like, multiple football fields big. So a little bit different energy coming off that thing since they've expanded it.

2:23:50Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, but you're a big Godzilla guy. So, like, that should power you. The power should power you.

2:23:53Drew Brees:So my one argument is, like, yeah, so we have been a very high-energy team and people want to put blame on that. Now, I will say, Fred Warner does practice there, and he trains there year-round. So did he just, like, absorb the electromagnetic stuff? He's only been hurt, like, once in his career. So is it, like, people who leave and then come back are affected more than the people who stay there year-round?

2:24:12Adam Vinatieri:Maybe, and hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. We appreciate the fact that you know your body, and you are so incredibly hardworking and in tune with your body, which is why we know you'll recover from this.

2:24:20Drew Brees:Oh, I'm excited about this.

2:24:21Adam Vinatieri:This sucks, dude. I know you have the mindset of a positive one. Sure. And I texted you in real time. You did. And you send me back like, I'm not dead. And it's like, I appreciate that mindset. But that is not how the season is supposed to go for you. And I think you agree with that. How quickly do you have to kind of flip the mindset around?

2:24:37Drew Brees:Oh, I mean, I did it pretty quickly. Like, for my MRI and then what my surgeon said, like, he was like, you had a lot of good news behind you, man. Like, you're very lucky where you tore it, how you tore it. He was like, just dominate your rehab, and you're going to play a lot of football games next year. Like, you're not going to miss 10 games. Like, you're going to play a lot of football.

2:24:51Adam Vinatieri:It's like, ha, all right, sounds good. Was that before or after you had somebody deliver you a tequila? bottle in the locker room.

2:24:58Drew Brees:So that time period was pretty depressing. That's when you texted me. I was like, well, I'm not dead. But I did get tequila. I got to hang out with my parents and my wife. And that was really fun. And then they made me feel really good. And then we won the game in Philadelphia. And then the team let me fly home on the wives had a PJ to the game. So I got to fly home on the PJ and lay on a couch and sit in a little chair. Wow.

2:25:18Adam Vinatieri:So mic'd up, wifed up is actually coming in good for rehab. Okay.

2:25:21Puka Nacua:So this is good for the team. Huge for the team.

2:25:25Adam Vinatieri:This is like whenever Guerrero is up there for TB12. Yeah, exactly. You know, kind of helping out. Mic'd up, wiped up is actually. I didn't even think about the positive side of it all.

2:25:34Drew Brees:Huge positives. Yeah, actually from a medical standpoint.

2:25:37Adam Vinatieri:But also good for the brand, which leads to Seattle Seahawks. Not a lot of people know a lot of their team. Patriots, not a lot of people know a lot of their team. You guys, though, rock stars. Yeah. Legit, at this stage. We have a lot of people, yeah.

2:25:47Drew Brees:We have a lot of people.

2:25:48Adam Vinatieri:I think so. I think you guys are absolute rock stars. Very famous. I agree. I think this 49ers team, very locked in cement. How do you feel about representing this city? because can we talk about it a little bit? You're from Norman, went to Iowa. I'm from Pittsburgh, went to West Virginia, live in Indianapolis. We've been told this place is a shithole. We've been told that. We've been told that for a long time. Legit, you live here, but we, outside of here, not been here, told this place has been gorgeous. It has been incredible. You can feel it's a football town. Do you feel the same way, and how much do you have to speak about that?

2:26:19Drew Brees:Well, one thing I love is, I feel like San Francisco, it's always like the bun end of a joke for all these people that want to talk shit about it. And then you get here and like, oh, it's actually a beautiful city with awesome food, great scenery. The weather's fantastic. Like, awesome vibes, plenty to do. It's like, it's actually a really fun place to be. And now, unfortunately, I live like an hour south here. So, like, I'm not in San Francisco all the time because our facility is down in Santa Clara. But when I'm up here, I thoroughly enjoy it. Like, it's a really fun city to be a part of.

2:26:43Pat McAfee:It is a fun city.

2:26:44Drew Brees:And there is a buzz in the city. Like, if you come up, like, when the Warriors are rolling or when the Giants are rolling or when we're rolling, there is a buzz in the city. and I'm actually jealous because I don't live up here, so I don't get to feel that buzz all the time.

2:26:54Adam Vinatieri:Where do you live? You live out of sticks or something like that? Do you live right on top of the electric plant?

2:26:59Drew Brees:I'm underneath it.

2:27:00Adam Vinatieri:Nice. Oh, like Splinter.

2:27:02Pat McAfee:I don't know the underrunner. Master Splinter. Master Splinter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Is that a good proper metaphor there?

2:27:07Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I think so. I don't really know that shit.

2:27:09Darius Butler:He lives in the sewer, so yeah, you could.

2:27:10Drew Brees:Yeah, that's fair. I'm an Iowa guy. I'm gritty. I'm not a Nebraska guy like Will. You know, I don't need everything pretty. But, no, I live like 20 minutes south of the facility. No, I live up in the hills. It's a beautiful place.

2:27:20Adam Vinatieri:What year is this for you coming up?

2:27:21Drew Brees:Year 10, baby.

2:27:22Adam Vinatieri:Congratulations, buddy. That's awesome. Not easy. Yeah. Not easy at all.

2:27:25Drew Brees:I'm really excited. There's a wall when you walk into the Niners facility and it has 10-year vets. So, anyone that's played 10 years. The last one is Joe Staley. And then the next two will be me and Kyle Juszczyk. God. And so, I'm pretty excited. I get to be sandwiched right in between Joe Staley and Kyle Juszczyk. I'm pretty excited.

2:27:42Adam Vinatieri:That's right where you're supposed to be.

2:27:43Puka Nacua:AJ has a question for you, Old Spice.

2:27:45David Tepper:Yeah, what's it look like the next, like, three or four months for this? Do you have a whole plan in place? You're already working? Can you take that boot off? They have you moving it? Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't understand how it all works.

2:27:53Drew Brees:I'm literally only in this when I'm, like, outside of my house. When I'm at my house, like, the nice thing is, too, like, my trainers are coming to me right now, which is really convenient. But I do a whole bunch of, you know, ISO holds, ankle stuff. Basically, I have, like, a three-inch heel lift in my boot right now. So, like, I can, like, stand up on this right now and just kind of hang out. But walking, we're not doing that yet. I'll be in a shoe next week, and I'll be back and forth between a shoe and a boot. And then I'm on crutches for, like, another two to three, four weeks, and then I'm rolling again.

2:28:20Adam Vinatieri:Where are you training at? You're training out here or back in Nashville? I will be.

2:28:23Drew Brees:I'll be in Nashville starting next week. Because you have a full facility, right? That I do, and I'm excited to use it again.

2:28:29Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, and it feels like, I mean, if anybody would be prepared for this type of rehab, it would be you with your setup.

2:28:34Drew Brees:I am excited to attack something different. I was at my dad toward both of his Achilles, so, you know, he's giving me a bunch of tips, too. Oh, it's in the family. Bruce is going to be out there.

2:28:42Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:It's in the family. I didn't know it was hereditary.

2:28:43Drew Brees:Has he been practicing around electric substations? No. He tore his back-to-back years. He was like 51 and 52. He tore his.

2:28:51Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:That's a good time to do it.

2:28:53Pat McAfee:That's Caboli numbers right now. That's tough. That's how Caboli is.

2:28:56Drew Brees:But, you know, he came back from it. He bikes 50 miles a day, so I think I can do it. Yeah, score some tuds.

2:29:01Adam Vinatieri:No problem. Why not? Run some people's faces through their face, man.

2:29:05Drew Brees:I'll still be able to headbutt people.

2:29:07Adam Vinatieri:Yep. It feels like that's coming back in the game. It should. I know you were never that way. you're always like laughing face. I'll do the whole psycho thing and block people and love doing that. Cause dad, offensive lineman, I do believe, but it does feel like the football is getting a little bit more violent, a little bit more physical again. Do you agree with that? It needs to a little bit more edge.

2:29:23Drew Brees:It feels like it needs to, it's, you know, it's not a friendly game. And yes, like, am I joking around out there? Yeah. But when the whistle blows and like I'm hitting people in the face, like that's what my job is. And I thoroughly enjoy doing that. One thing, it does need to be more physical. I still think they need to like work on roughing the passer. I think that's just outrageous still.

2:29:37Puka Nacua:Well, Let's not get into all the reffing stuff. Actually, we fixed that. How? How?

2:29:43Drew Brees:How do we fix it?

2:29:43Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Remember, J.J., they're going to call J.J. Watt. Oh, yeah, and he's going to do this number.

2:29:47Drew Brees:I just don't think, like, if you get hit in the head, I don't feel like that should be a thing unless it's like someone hits you helmet to helmet or something like that on a quarterback. It's a football play. If a D-line's swiping to hit a ball and you accidentally hit a quarterback in the head, that shouldn't be a 15-yard penalty.

2:29:59Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Agreed.

2:30:00Drew Brees:Yeah, just, like, stop making it so easy on offenses.

2:30:03Adam Vinatieri:Well, why don't you say this to somebody? Go to Roger Goodell. Say, hi, I'm George Kittle. I got ideas.

2:30:09Drew Brees:This is Pat. He has the most popular show on ESPN, and in the world, he has something to say.

2:30:14Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:We've said it.

2:30:15Adam Vinatieri:Oh. He's lying right to everybody. We're not doing lying out here. Okay, our show exists. It certainly does. More people are watching it now than they should, I will say. I don't know. You guys are pretty entertaining. Thank you, George. You guys are, too.

2:30:27Drew Brees:I think it's really because AJ's here in person, and it's on Zoom.

2:30:30Adam Vinatieri:How do you feel about that, the vibe of him around?

2:30:32Drew Brees:He doesn't say a lot, but his aura is high. Oh, he's always saying something, though. I haven't heard of much this so far. Oh, yeah.

2:30:39Adam Vinatieri:Well, that's because he's on mushrooms right now. Oh, okay.

2:30:42AQ Shipley:Really? All of them. D-Bot has a question for you as well. The offense. Everybody wants a piece of the Shanahan or McVay offense. They do, don't they? Every coaching cycle, you'll see three or four. It's crazy. Your next new Wiz kids get hired. What is it about your offense? Obviously, you got to have the players. You got to have the Jimmys and Joes out there. But what is it specifically about your offense that everybody loves right now?

2:31:02Drew Brees:I think it's just like there's just so many different variations of it. Like, there's so many ways to do it. And if you have, like, a solid opposite line, tight end, running back, like, you do all the run game stuff. Like, you see how we do it. We have Juice and a tight end. And you look how the Rams do it. And they used three tight ends or they're just an 11 personnel with one tight end. And it's the same run plays, basically. And then you can just all do all the play action keeper stuff off of it. And, like, I just think guys like that intuitive thinking. I think a lot of the coaches that come out of Shanahan's coaching tree right now are all, like, kind of, I don't want to say whiz kids, but they're all just kind of, like, these smart guys who sit in a dark room and look at film 24-7.

2:31:34Drew Brees:And they're just like really like, oh, we like this, but we're going to make this play look like this now. And you can make an entire, you can make like one formation and you can run 10 plays out of it and the defense will never know what's coming. I think just guys really, really like that and the efficiency of our offense.

2:31:47Adam Vinatieri:Do you fight the other Old Spice guy for Old Spice dominance or how's that kind of go?

2:31:51Drew Brees:No, that is the Old Spice guy. No, he could whoop my ass. And yours.

2:31:55Adam Vinatieri:Definitely mine. Yeah, definitely.

2:31:57Drew Brees:I'm on a scooter right now. I could run someone over.

2:32:00Puka Nacua:Yeah. They see him rolling.

2:32:07Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:You should put a sword on the front of it. Death race. Give me a Lance. Yes, exactly.

2:32:12Puka Nacua:Oh, you and a knight thing. Oh, yes.

2:32:16Drew Brees:I would have fun with that.

2:32:17Puka Nacua:Who else is on these things? Have we seen anybody else rolling around here?

2:32:19Drew Brees:Micah Parsons had one. Yes. That'd be fun. That'd be fun. Yeah, we need that. He's even saying I'd go for his knees, but yes. Please don't.

2:32:27Darius Butler:He just had knees.

2:32:28Drew Brees:I know. Oh, yeah. You're a Packer guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's fun.

2:32:33Darius Butler:Ty actually has a question for you. I assume it's about to be the Hawks. I was going to ask about the Hawks.

2:32:37Drew Brees:Ask a Hawks question first.

2:32:40Darius Butler:Okay. Sounds like he wasn't. Well, no, I was. What's your question? You know Brock Purdy very well. And I know you're an Iowa guy. We talked about it a little bit backstage. And I think he realized it yesterday, too. There's a chance Iowa State's never good again.

2:32:56Drew Brees:No chance.

2:32:57Darius Butler:Yeah. The program literally gutted on the way out. You know, it's just terrible for all those people. But knowing Brock the way that you do and how big of a competitor he is, et cetera, et cetera, it looked like he wanted to tell me to my face, fuck you, and smack the teeth out of my mouth. But he didn't. But he didn't.

2:33:13Adam Vinatieri:He was wearing a toy-a-thon jacket. He did not. It's a cute jacket.

2:33:17Darius Butler:Do you think that is an accurate read, though? Because, I mean, we kind of saw Brock come into his own a little bit more this year. But do you think that is an accurate read? And he also knows that I'm right. Iowa State's not going to be with the fuck anymore.

2:33:29Drew Brees:You know what? As a person from Iowa, and I love the state of Iowa, I want Iowa State to get good again. I just don't know how that's going to happen for a while. I feel the same way. But Brock is a feisty guy. When we golf and stuff, he likes to go out there and compete. He likes to compete with Juice, me, Christian. He likes to go out there with the boys. He's a very, very competitive person. He talks a lot of shit. That's just kind of what he does. I think when you put a camera on him, he's trying to be, hey, I'm the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. There's a lot that goes into that.

2:33:59Drew Brees:I was like, you know what, Brock, just be yourself, man. So he's getting more comfortable with the whole thing.

2:34:03Adam Vinatieri:He almost murdered them. We saw it in his eyes multiple times. He gets pissed. Yeah, yeah. It's awesome. They were trying to as well. As soon as they saw him, he was sitting like this casual. And then Ty says something. You see him look over. And then Ty and Connor sense a little. Oh.

2:34:22Puka Nacua:There's a little moment there.

2:34:25Drew Brees:Keep doing it. The next time he goes on the show, keep doing it.

2:34:27Puka Nacua:We don't know if that will happen.

2:34:28Adam Vinatieri:It will.

2:34:28Puka Nacua:He's never coming back.

2:34:29Adam Vinatieri:No, he will.

2:34:30Drew Brees:He's a good guy.

2:34:31Adam Vinatieri:I don't know. Ty and Connor said some. I mean, they were trying. We got him.

2:34:34Darius Butler:I was just saying Ames is a shithole.

2:34:36Drew Brees:Oh, it is.

2:34:37Darius Butler:He hates charity. He hates charity.

2:34:39Drew Brees:You say he hates charity? This guy catches. That's so mean. I love it.

2:34:44Pat McAfee:George, what were your stats? How many? What'd I do? You tell me. 1 ,800. You're trying to compare yourself to George Kittle and Brock Purdy's life. See? George Kittle says it. I'm allowed to say it. This guy's been his number one, basically, since he became a starter for the Niners.

2:34:57Darius Butler:Hey, you know what? Some things just don't die. I went to Iowa. He went to Iowa State. That's how it's always going to be.

2:35:03Drew Brees:It is. It is fair.

2:35:05Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, but I wish Brock, with that Toyotathon jacket, would have taken the jacket off and said, you know what, this ain't about Toyota. Take it down. I'm kicking your ass.

2:35:12Puka Nacua:I can't walk right over. That would have been awesome. It would have been so cool. I would have thoroughly enjoyed that. Yeah, yeah.

2:35:17Adam Vinatieri:So we would have been sitting here having a great. Did you see Robert Irwin yesterday?

2:35:21Drew Brees:Yeah, I did. You know, I'm actually disappointed in Robert. Why? The Rams got him to do like a hype video for the Rams fans for going to Australia. I'm like, no, Robert. No, you're a Niners fan. How'd they get to him so fast?

2:35:33Adam Vinatieri:That's because they had the decision already made that it was going to be the Rams. The Niners just happened, right? That was the big announcement. Oh, that's what it was?

2:35:40Drew Brees:He was the only one that knew. I love Robert Urien. I follow him online. I follow all of his videos. He's a psychopath. I don't know how they do that stuff. Yes. Hilarious. Incredible. He's so cool. So cool.

2:35:51Puka Nacua:Loves the Rams, doesn't he?

2:35:53David Tepper:Oh, yeah.

2:35:53Drew Brees:No, he doesn't love them.

2:35:55David Tepper:Big Rams fan.

2:35:55Adam Vinatieri:Oh, my gosh. They pay him. It's NIL.

2:35:58Drew Brees:They pay him.

2:35:59Adam Vinatieri:Here's this video, actually, we heard.

2:36:02Drew Brees:Yeah, I know.

2:36:03Adam Vinatieri:Can you go back to the beginning, Lausanne?

2:36:06Drew Brees:Oh, I need to hear the accent. Yeah. It's so good. G'day, Rams.

2:36:08George Kittle:It's Robert Irwin here. I know you guys are coming down on it to Australia. I am so excited.

2:36:13Drew Brees:I love it.

2:36:14George Kittle:You guys up against the 49ers. You're going to have to bring your A game. I know you will. And I hope to see you at Australia Zoo. Let's go wrangle some crocodiles, hey? Get you warmed up.

2:36:24Drew Brees:Is that an open invite?

2:36:25Luke Kuechly:Yeah, I think so.

2:36:26Adam Vinatieri:Let's do it. And he didn't really proclaim himself as a Rams fan. No, he didn't. He kind of – he's Steve Irwin. He's not going to have to bring it.

2:36:34Drew Brees:Yeah, he's unbelievable. You're going to have to bring it. So that's kind of a compliment to us. You're going to have to bring your A game if you want to beat the Niners.

2:36:39Adam Vinatieri:Okay, so you found out about Australia yesterday, like the rest of us that you were playing down there? Yes, I did. How excited are you for that?

2:36:45Drew Brees:Yes. I mean, my favorite – I've only done one international game. That was Mexico City, so, like, not that hard of a flight. That was pretty fun, too, because that was basically a home game for us because Mexico City loves the 49ers. I'm sure it'll be a great time, though. I'm looking forward to it. I've never been. I'm excited for the 16-hour flight from San Francisco. It's going to be great. Me and Christian will be sitting right next to each other for the whole flight, and I'm probably going to annoy him the entire time.

2:37:08Adam Vinatieri:Let me tell you, as somebody who did the flight, while you're in it, you think, this is the worst thing I've ever done in my life because you're just flying over water. So you start thinking, and there's no Internet, okay? So you're just kind of trapped in there. So you literally think to yourself, if something was going wrong, where are we? Oh, okay. Nowhere. Literally. And you're eight hours in. Guess what? Nothing. Still. You're 10 hours in. Nothing. You're just out there by yourself with your thoughts. So there's a lot of mental toughness that's going to have to happen. But once you get there, you think to yourself, wow, this is like a movie.

2:37:41Adam Vinatieri:It's so nice. Australia is beautiful once you get there. Just the trip is ass. I mean, the trip is ass. There's no.

2:37:47Drew Brees:You could take advantage of it. I could just watch the entire extended cut of Lord of the Rings. I could. It's like, what is that, 12 hours? Are you a Game of Thrones fan? I do like Game of Thrones. Lord of the Rings is the best cinema ever recorded, but I do like Game of Thrones.

2:38:00Adam Vinatieri:Okay, I don't know even how to debate what you just said. I'm sure there's a lot of people that disagree with you. Well, if you do, you're wrong. What would beat that? Like Mighty Ducks, I guess? Yeah, that's up there. Karate Kid.

2:38:12Darius Butler:Yeah, so what would you do? Karate Kid 1 through 3.

2:38:15Puka Nacua:Disrespectful to what? Mighty Ducks?

2:38:17Drew Brees:Is that what you're saying? To Lord of the Rings?

2:38:18Darius Butler:Yeah, dude, when they go to Eden Hall. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The Triple Deke. Yeah.

2:38:22Drew Brees:No, no, it's fantastic. It's great cinema. It's just not, you know, it's not the best. Game of Thrones, do you like the Mountain? I absolutely love Game of Thrones besides the last season. They just ruined it for everybody.

2:38:31Adam Vinatieri:Was that the one where there were Starbucks cups and everything? Yeah.

2:38:33Drew Brees:Yeah, they kind of mailed it in. They mailed it in.

2:38:35Adam Vinatieri:What did they have the Mountain do last year? Did he do any squats?

2:38:38David Tepper:Cut a horse's head off. Oh, he did, yeah. Him and his brother got into it pretty good. That was a good fight.

2:38:44Drew Brees:There were some good scenes, but the way that they tied the thing together was horrible. I hated it. So are you a critic?

2:38:49Adam Vinatieri:You feel like you're a pretty good critic there, it sounds like.

2:38:51Drew Brees:I love movies. I love TV shows. I watch everything. I love it. So Australia won't be that bad of a trip at those days? No, like, I will sit there, and I promise you I'll go through probably all the Hobbits, Lord of the Rings, maybe get a Matrix or a Star Wars film in there, too.

2:39:02Adam Vinatieri:Why don't you watch some film? It's how it has. George, I'm not doing it.

2:39:06Drew Brees:The thing in my office, I don't have to watch a lot of film, because as long as I know what the plays are, they're built to go against any defense.

2:39:11Adam Vinatieri:What year are you in this system? Ten. Oh, so it's been the whole time. Yeah. Oh, my God.

2:39:15Drew Brees:Yeah, so it's like as long as I know what the plays are, like the only thing I watch on film now, like I'll watch a defensive end to see how he sets an edge or how he pass rushes, like if there's a certain move he does, and I'll watch how a guy plays me in man coverage. Like, that's really it. I don't have to break down a defense. Like, you're like, okay, this is the run play. You're going to do this to this. I'm like, all right, sounds good.

2:39:33Pat McAfee:Good for you. That's a good place to get to. Tone has a question for you, George.

2:39:36Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:If it's that easy, how come Seattle's defense was really good against you guys?

2:39:40Drew Brees:Oh, I said.

2:39:41Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Why are they so good?

2:39:42Drew Brees:I mean, me watching film is not going to help that. Their defense is so good. Well, what they do, they play. Their defense really reminds me a lot of the defense I had in 2019, where they come off the ball. They hit you in the face really, really hard. They penetrate against the line of scrimmage. Your offensive line is always in the backfield. And then their DBs take advantage of that. Because when you only have to rush four guys, and it's like four good players, especially when you have elite defensive tackles on the inside, then your DBs are only covering for three, four seconds instead of five, six seconds.

2:40:10Drew Brees:Right? Not six, seven. That's over. Yeah, is it dead? Yeah. I don't know.

2:40:15Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I hope you didn't bring it back. I hope I did.

2:40:17Adam Vinatieri:I was doing it for a time there. That's when I really thought I was a sellout. Because that's not really my thing. I don't do the dances. I don't do it. And then she's like, ha, ha, ha. I really felt like I was part of the problem. Catchy. I really felt like I was part of the problem.

2:40:28Drew Brees:You were a TikTok guy there for a little bit?

2:40:30Adam Vinatieri:So, stop. We got a guy named Taki's back, actually. Congrats, Taki. Congrats, Taki. Back in the fight. Well done, Taki. Taki picked every hour for eight hours yesterday. I think he got some food poisoning. He is back. football uh i don't know much about the talk but six seven did have a little bit of a run

2:40:46Drew Brees:i would say i thought oh so uh where i live down here about an hour south of the year there's like it's called the los gatos light show and it's like they take out this whole park then the whole thing's christmas lights and it's like a 20 25 minute drive you go there with your kids you just drive there's all these cool christmas lights everywhere and so i did it for the first time this year and i'm driving in and my windows are down and all these kids are like out of their sunroof hanging out of the windows and they're all every car drive passes just screaming at me 6-7-6-7. I'm like, oh, my gosh.

2:41:12Drew Brees:What is going on here? Yeah, it's wild time. Yeah. I was so – my wife was like, roll up the window, George. I'm like, no. So I started yelling 8-9 back at all of them. Oh, see, you were trying to – you're an influencer. I was – you know what? None of them knew who I was, which was kind of funny, and I was just screaming 8-9 at them as they screamed 6-7 at me.

2:41:27Adam Vinatieri:Okay, good question. Ten years here, I assume, yeah.

2:41:31Drew Brees:Yeah. You're mayor of this place? Oh. Actually, I met the mayor just a couple days ago at the Pro Bowl. It was nice. What did you think? He's a nice guy. What didn't you like about him? Hold on.

2:41:41David Tepper:We had some preconceived notions.

2:41:42Drew Brees:We did not like anything.

2:41:43Darius Butler:He's a local, so what did you think? Because we're getting that guy's A game. Oh, he was on the show, wasn't he? Yeah, he was really good. He was very good, but I said, coming in, preconceived notions, I said, this guy kind of reminds me of a smarmy prick.

2:41:58Adam Vinatieri:Bastard was what he said. Call him a bastard. Smarmy bastard. Right to his face.

2:42:02Darius Butler:Oh, I didn't say it to his face. Yes, he did. But I would have. But, no, and by the end of it, I was like, you know what?

2:42:09Adam Vinatieri:This guy's pretty good.

2:42:10Darius Butler:This guy's gold.

2:42:11Drew Brees:I'm not intended. I talked for like 10 minutes after the Pro Bowl. He was talking to me and Christian. Yeah, he's a nice guy. I like them a lot. Well, how about you make the city a little better? Will you attempt a shot? Oh, yeah, sure. Oh, that's a bouncy ball.

2:42:23Adam Vinatieri:State fair. Yeah, it's a state fair basketball. Okay, so it's going to be tough to shoot. If you make this,$50 ,000 to a charity of your choosing.

2:42:31Drew Brees:Oh, I was about to throw the hell out of this basketball. I mean, basketball. I'll actually shoot it. Hold on, though.

2:42:35Adam Vinatieri:Hold on, though. You should have told me that. You do that. We potentially go, you know what? Good. And do the donation. But since you told us, new gimmick now. I think you're going to have to make it. George Kittle, legend here in San Francisco. Yeah, you could have blindsided us with the thing. You could still throw it.

2:42:49Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah.

2:42:50Adam Vinatieri:No, no, because you already told us you were doing that. Go ahead, George.

2:42:52Drew Brees:It feels more like a dodgeball.

2:42:54Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:It does.

2:42:54Adam Vinatieri:Oh, and you. See if you can hit anybody.

2:42:56Drew Brees:Really? No. Come on. We had this with you.

2:42:59Adam Vinatieri:We had this with you the other day, last year.

2:43:01Drew Brees:I know. You threw it. You almost hit my mom last year. I think you should make the donation just because you almost hit my mom.

2:43:07Adam Vinatieri:But I didn't, though, you know, because I knew.

2:43:09Drew Brees:But she still thinks about it. She's scared.

2:43:11Adam Vinatieri:Well, let her know she's an angel. I would never know. Trauma.

2:43:14Drew Brees:Emotional trauma.

2:43:15Adam Vinatieri:No, it's a pizza. It's just pretty athletic-looking shot, though, especially with the lean back there with the boot on the scooter. Good board. Thank you so much. That's a good pass. Into George Kiddles. Oh, that was more fun. Okay, one more attempt here. This is for$50 ,000. Oh.

2:43:34Drew Brees:That was good. We're getting there. Hey, that's Pete. That's my guy.

2:43:37Puka Nacua:Hey, Pete. Pete. Oh, he just tried to hit your Achilles. Oh, man.

2:43:43Drew Brees:I don't have a good range of motion right now. Oh. He actually doesn't have a range of motion.

2:43:48Puka Nacua:We're falling apart, boys. No, no. Hold on. Last attempt here for real. All right, cool.

2:43:52Adam Vinatieri:I'll sit up.

2:43:53Puka Nacua:Okay, let's lock in. Please. I'm done with the fucking bullshit around. Okay? I'm done with it. I'm going to flip your desk. That's what I'm saying. That's the bullshit you're not worried about making the hoop.

2:44:02Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Then we'll kick your scooter over.

2:44:04Puka Nacua:Yeah. You can try. Get over here. Come on, you're so tough. I'll bite your ankle. 50 ,000.

2:44:14Drew Brees:You're the man. That's right. She had my wife out here. She can shoot. I can't. Is she out here? No, she's not, unfortunately. She's working, though. She's working. She was just SI CoverGirl yesterday. Sports Illustrated Swimster Model. What? Yeah. Congrats, Claire. That's pretty sick. I know. Lucky me, really.

2:44:28Adam Vinatieri:Lucky me. No, lucky you that you guys love each other and so publicly still love each other with all the attention that has been brought to you guys. Legit. It's pretty cool. Like, reality TV show couples never work because there's always some sort of situation.

2:44:40Drew Brees:No, she likes me.

2:44:41Adam Vinatieri:You guys have both become very popular running your own thing and still get along very well. It's fun to watch. It's inspiring, I would say, for others.

2:44:46Drew Brees:We thoroughly enjoy each other. Yeah, as long as, like, you know, you're good friends with your wife, you're going to have a good time. Yeah.

2:44:51Puka Nacua:You like your wife. She doesn't like me, but I do like her. Everyone's like, well, yeah, well, you love each other.

2:44:56Drew Brees:I'm like, yeah, but do you like your person that you're hanging out with every single day? Like, that's a big difference. Do you actually like them? You and Claire, I feel like, do. Yes. Yeah, it's awesome. I love it. I get home from work, and I'm like, what TV show are we watching tonight? She's like, Lord of the Rings. No, actually, I got Claire to set her phone down aside. No phones. We watched the first two Lord of the Rings movies, extended cuts. She went through all of them. She's like, wow, these movies are actually really good. And I said, hell yeah, they are.

2:45:20Adam Vinatieri:That's awesome. She'll just lie to you like that. I know, it's nice, isn't it? Yeah, it's great. It's great. Hey, listen, I'd rather somebody be nice to me for the wrong reasons that'd be mean to me for the right reasons. I've always said that. That's nice. People are always like, well, they're fake to you, and that's why they're being nice. I don't care. It feels a lot better on my end whenever they're being out.

2:45:37Puka Nacua:I don't know that.

2:45:37Drew Brees:Lie to my face, please.

2:45:38Adam Vinatieri:Yes, please, please, please. Especially if we're going to watch Lord of the Rings for 40 hours. I don't know how long those movies are. They're long.

2:45:44Drew Brees:Extended cut is, what, 3.5, 3.45, and the last one's 4.25, I think. Jeez. Watch film.

2:45:50Puka Nacua:Okay. Ladies and gentlemen. You don't fall asleep? Last shot here, George.

2:45:53Drew Brees:I love those movies.

2:45:54Puka Nacua:George. I get one more? No, hold on.

2:45:56Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:You're Gandalf.

2:45:59Drew Brees:That'd be so sick.

2:46:02Adam Vinatieri:What is that?

2:46:03David Tepper:He's a Lord Wizard. He's a wizard. Gandalf the Grey. He's got a sick staff. The Grey? Is he in the Grey?

2:46:09Drew Brees:It's Gandalf the Grey, and then he dies, and he comes back to Gandalf the White. What's sick is in his staff, he actually has a built-in holder for his pipe, and in Lord of the Rings, they all smoke a bunch of weed.

2:46:20David Tepper:Really?

2:46:20Drew Brees:Yeah. So they got a peace pipe out there? Yes. It's crazy, actually. I didn't know that until I was older. They're hobbits. Yeah, it's from the Shire. The Orcs are bad. They're not kids. They're hobbits.

2:46:28Adam Vinatieri:Let's go ahead and hit the peace pipe in. Let's go to Old Spice. That's that. I never heard that twice.

2:46:33Puka Nacua:All right. We'll see you, man. You gave me a lot of shots here. I appreciate it.

2:46:36Adam Vinatieri:I mean, I tried my best, yeah, for the good of the city, for the good of George. Because you spent a lot of time with us, and we appreciate you. We're big fans, brother.

2:46:41Drew Brees:Yeah. Thanks, guys. Love you, George. Get healthy, George.

2:46:44Adam Vinatieri:You guys are awesome. Love you, George. Ladies and gentlemen, George Kill.

2:46:45Puka Nacua:Love you, George. Yeah, George. George had an Old Spice. Set Intensity available now. Don't be smelling like an asshole when you walk into the place

2:46:54Adam Vinatieri:if you don't have to.

2:46:56Puka Nacua:Set.

2:46:57Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:There it is.

2:46:58Puka Nacua:Hey, you don't have to be looking like an asshole if you don't want to.

2:47:05Darius Butler:I don't know if you're going to be able to get out that way, Georgi. See you, Georgi.

2:47:10Puka Nacua:Let's not get too comfortable on this thing. He's pretty good on it.

2:47:14Darius Butler:Hey, what's set? You're maneuvering it pretty darn good, though.

2:47:19Adam Vinatieri:yup oh that was your game that was in the paint yeah$10 donation actually alright see you Giorgio alright George alright George appreciate you George that was a good ass slap no hand claps or ass slaps George Kittle says I don't want to hear him roll out of here and smack that and he certainly did joining us out ladies and gentlemen it's time yes

2:47:44Fernando Mendoza:yes it is

2:47:47Adam Vinatieri:the storming Mormon a man who's been a Super Bowl champion before with the New England Patriots about to be friend of the program we think all offseason had no idea he showed up this late going to be honest excited to talk to him he's going to bring good juice we love him ladies and gentlemen Kyle Van Doren

2:48:05Puka Nacua:Kyle! Kyle! Kyle, great to see you Clee gotta get up hi Kyle great shoes Kyle I like those your hospitable hood Kyle!

2:48:19Adam Vinatieri:He smells good. What are you doing here? Are you selling anything? Do we need to talk about what you're selling? Okay, I like that. You're just selling ball. I like it. We're selling ball. We're always selling ball. We're always buying ball too.

2:48:30Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, selling bricks. Those are real.

2:48:34Adam Vinatieri:It's like bricks and what? The phrasing there, yeah, that's chocolate. Could be. And cocaine. Okay, Kyle, we're not moving. Like, how are you doing, brother? How's life?

2:48:43AJ Hawk:I'm so blessed, man. First of all, I always got to say thank you. You guys appreciate you guys. I've been just going around, obviously, and you guys are obviously some of my OGs in this workspace and media, so I appreciate. But watching you guys and seeing the joy you bring people, I mean, you guys have set the standard now, and I just want to say thank you for allowing me to be like. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle. We appreciate you.

2:49:12Adam Vinatieri:You're a multiple-time Super Bowl champion. We're lucky that you join us, okay? We are lucky that you join us. We're thankful that you're joining us.

2:49:17Puka Nacua:What year are you going into next year? If you're 13, if we get to play.

2:49:21Adam Vinatieri:Yes. Hopefully get to play 13th here. Yeah. Obviously multiple times here. But champ, you've been around. Whatever you think about this week and all the shit. Boom. Boom.

2:49:30Puka Nacua:Knew they'd be here. Oh, my God. So sorry. So sorry. The boom boys. Oh, my God. I'm so. Boom. Boom. Five. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Yeah. I didn't know there was still brains.

2:49:47AJ Hawk:You're a swallow.

2:49:49Puka Nacua:Not a swallow is boom. Holy shit. Good to see you guys. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I know you're a worker. Obviously, I've seen you guys.

2:50:00Pat McAfee:Whole family getting in on the gimmick and getting to eat off of it. That's awesome, dude. You guys should be pumped. For that. That's all the lovely to get from you guys. Thank you.

2:50:09Puka Nacua:No problem. Thank you, everyone. Hey, for what you guys have accomplished, we'd like to give you ten. One. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

2:50:23Adam Vinatieri:I think that was 10.

2:50:24Puka Nacua:I think that was 10.

2:50:25Adam Vinatieri:Hey, congratulations. You guys are awesome. Hell yeah.

2:50:28Puka Nacua:Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That was awesome. What is your problem? Dream come true. What was your problem? I thought you were a team guy. Why weren't you fucking... I did say boom.

2:50:35AJ Hawk:It caught me off guard a little bit, but I did say boom. You didn't do the arm, though. You didn't do the boom. I didn't do the arm, but I said boom.

2:50:40Puka Nacua:Do you know the boom boys, Donner?

2:50:41AJ Hawk:I do now.

2:50:42Pat McAfee:The Boca Raton boys.

2:50:44AJ Hawk:Come on, dude.

2:50:44Puka Nacua:That's a boom boys.

2:50:46Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:That's a heavyweight champion of the world.

2:50:48AJ Hawk:You can tell.

2:50:50Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, I know.

2:50:51Puka Nacua:Kyle.

2:50:51Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Kyle.

2:50:52Puka Nacua:I don't know. I don't know how you feel about the boom stuff. And I want to let you know you need to go on board. I'm on board. Hey, buy in. Boom. Nah, see?

2:51:03AQ Shipley:Nah, he did. He was there. Boom. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

2:51:07Puka Nacua:We're getting him. We're getting him. Boom. Oh, uh, uh. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

2:51:16Adam Vinatieri:All right. That was a dream for us. Thank you for that. Wow. Now, they can't hear us right now because we're talking in a microphone. But if that was like a year ago, we'd be much more fucking pumped up about it.

2:51:26Puka Nacua:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm still pumped up. I'm still pumped up. We appreciate you guys.

2:51:33Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Isn't there speakers to the club?

2:51:34Puka Nacua:Oh, they can hear me. They can hear me. I fucking love you guys. I do.

2:51:38Adam Vinatieri:This is dad, son, nephew.

2:51:42Pat McAfee:I think the whole thing, they literally put the whole family on.

2:51:46Darius Butler:Boomin' on fools.

2:51:47Adam Vinatieri:You would like them. Big Justice and big Costco boom boom. We're very thankful. Kyle, let's talk about Super Bowl. Let's talk about it. You got fucking Big Justice roaming around. I mean, you got so many distractions.

2:51:59Pat McAfee:So many. You got booming all over the place. You got George Kittle rolling around here. If you're in the game, how much of this stuff do you know is happening? Like, how much of this are you thinking about or knowing that it even exists?

2:52:11AJ Hawk:That's a great question because all of it doesn't matter if you don't win. You have the family pictures that you have, you know, with your family. You get to go to the stadium and have family pictures. That doesn't mean as much if you don't win. It really, that's just how it goes. You fail the season. You have the confetti fall on your face after you lose the game. It's just everything doesn't matter after that. But when you do win, having those family times on the football field, taking pictures with the coaches and the players, you get that forever. And I've been able to experience that time, you know, that moment twice to win.

2:52:49AJ Hawk:But to be able to look back on the two weeks and the preparation and the whole year, it means that much more when you win versus you lose. And someone's going to have that this weekend.

2:52:59Adam Vinatieri:If you lose, you weren't even in the Super Bowl.

2:53:02AJ Hawk:No, it doesn't matter. Legit. You might as well have been, you know, out.

2:53:05Adam Vinatieri:out yeah maybe not even make the playoffs that is kind of how it's viewed yeah in the locker room too you lose the super bowl in the locker room you just think to yourself okay we have the shortest offseason everybody else and we didn't fucking win that is literally i was there my rookie year had no idea how hard it was going to be that we were never going to get backs and then you get a

2:53:22AJ Hawk:pat on the back like you made it to the super bowl like getting invited to events this guy was in a super bowl yeah yeah it's like all right this is great i'm a loser yeah it would be cool

2:53:32Adam Vinatieri:It's cool to be on the other side of this, although I had really no say in how any of that went. A lot of people get blamed for why we lost that game, and I'm not one of them, so I'm pretty pumped up about that. But we didn't win, so we didn't have the moment. You're right.

2:53:42AJ Hawk:I was blamed into mine when we lost against the Eagles. Tom throws for.500, and we couldn't get off a football field on defense. Long offseason. Long, long, long. Long offseason.

2:53:53David Tepper:AJ has a question for you, Kyle. Speaking of those two Super Bowl wins, how was the postgame, the team party, and who performed at those? And also, in your loss, did someone perform and was there a part? Yeah.

2:54:03AJ Hawk:So, let me start with the loss because we got to talk about it. The wins are better. But the loss, I actually almost got in a fight after because they have fans that are there after that pay to go. That feels like a bad idea. Mass holes are there? A bunch. A bunch. And so, I hope you're having a good time. When a mass hole pays to go, they want their money's worth. Yes. So, let me get a picture. I'm like, I don't want to. Let me get a picture. And I was like, hell no. And they're like, hell yeah. So I'm talking to my family. They're consoling me because I'm pissed. It's cold. It's in Minneapolis where it was like negative 40.

2:54:46AJ Hawk:Yeah, exactly. You lose the game and then you walk out and you lose again. Yes. It was crazy. But after that, you're in there and fans, they pay. There's people performing and people want pictures still because they pay a lot of money to be at that after party. Well, I'm not feeling pictures after I lose. And these three dudes were ready to fight me for a picture. And my dad's, like, holding me back. My brother, like, grabbed me and, like, took me away. Luckily, we got out of there. But let's celebrate the wins because Snoop Dogg is a very good friend of Robert Kraft. And so when they win, I would put money on that Snoop Dogg is going to be at that performance.

2:55:26AJ Hawk:might be indulging in something, but he's having a good time. He is having a great time. I don't know. I just said indulging. A lot of dancing. He actually, he'll have pole girls dancing. That's how crazy it gets. Oh, really? Yes. That's why he's wearing a suit bowl. Yeah.

2:55:45Puka Nacua:He's wearing a suit bowl. Great.

2:55:46AJ Hawk:I had Meek Mill, Dreams of Nightmares. It was kind of crazy. Hold up, wait a minute. Yeah, he played the week, or he played the year before for the Eagles and then was like, I'm going to come back in on the winning team again and perform for the Patriots.

2:55:59Adam Vinatieri:Well, I think Robert Kraft helped get him out of jail, too. So I think they had quite a connection.

2:56:04AJ Hawk:He signed up real quick. Yeah, hold on a little minute.

2:56:06Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, I will say Rick Ross. I think Kraft is known for having incredible celebrations because they have been there so much and they know what to do.

2:56:13AJ Hawk:Yeah, but I like his parties at his house that much more. That's a little intimate setting, no fans, no nothing. it was at his house and it's fire. It's like you get a comedian to start it off. He actually likes to appetizers. It's going to be a little bit of Popeyes for all of us to start it off. And then we have a nice meal. We like that.

2:56:37Adam Vinatieri:That does sound great. And you guys up there in New England had so much time to get used to what the right move is. Yes, there are some people who don't follow the ball as closely who I asked them about the Super Bowl. and they say, New England's won too much. I don't want to see them win. They don't even know it's like a brand new team up there, basically. How do you kind of view it as old school Patriots guy and now this brand new but very similar Patriots team that's kind of happening right now in front of us?

2:57:04AJ Hawk:Yeah, I think it's the blueprint because Vrabel was a part of that. I think he's obviously made it Patriots 2.0. That's what I'll call it, Patriots 2.0 because he still has the mindset of the previous, no, excuse me, two previous people. Sorry, Mayo. The previous coach before that, sorry, and Bill Belichick. Not a Hall of Famer. Yeah, yeah, sorry, not a Hall of Famer, which is crazy. Robert Kraft as well, not a Hall of Famer. Brutal.

2:57:36Puka Nacua:Vinatieri, though.

2:57:37AJ Hawk:Good for him. Hall of Famer, yeah. Yeah, good for him. Awesome, good for him. That was awesome. For sure. Were you shocked it was they picked the Colts jersey to represent?

2:57:48Adam Vinatieri:So I don't think in the NFL you don't pick who you're going in as.

2:57:52AJ Hawk:No, I know, but as the photo. The Hall of Fame graphic. The Hall of Fame graphic.

2:57:57Adam Vinatieri:So for Peyton, they put him in a Broncos. Like whenever he left the Colts.

2:58:01Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:It was just the last team he played.

2:58:02Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, when he left the Colts, you never saw him in a Colts jersey. Like he was in a Broncos jersey for like five years after he retired. and I think they just potentially go with most recent team.

2:58:12AJ Hawk:Okay.

2:58:12Adam Vinatieri:But on that note, whenever they announced the entire class, he was in a Patriots jersey. So I think they put him up there. This one, they had him in a Patriots jersey.

2:58:18AJ Hawk:Oh, cool.

2:58:18Adam Vinatieri:But in the NFL, you don't have to select which team you're going in as, which is very good news. That is – I've asked Vinny that. That'd be awkward. I've asked him that since like year two of me with the Colts. It's like, hey, when you go in, who are you going to go in? And he's like, I don't have to do that. And then like a year later, I get boozed up or something. I'm like, so what are you going to do? Who are you going to go in? Yeah, it's like I would always ask him. It doesn't matter. But I think because Kraft is not in and Bill is not in, I do think Vinny is, like, representing for the New England team.

2:58:47Adam Vinatieri:So I think there will be a good collaboration, hopefully, of Black and St. Ken.

2:58:50AJ Hawk:Do you think they do the same thing to Tom now? What do you mean? Make him make him? Knock it in? No.

2:58:57Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Well, we would have said that about Bill. Hope not.

2:58:58AJ Hawk:Can't do that. Can't do it, right? Hope not. There's no way. If not, then we're lighting it on fire. Correct. The whole process? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

2:59:05Pat McAfee:Because even Tony Dungy, who was getting attacked for maybe not voting for Bill Belichick.

2:59:11AJ Hawk:He played the fifth.

2:59:12Adam Vinatieri:He did, but he also said, I hate the process. Everybody has said they hate the process and how it works. I don't know if they're ever going to get it right, but I do know the Hall of Fame still means something. And we need it to continue to mean something.

2:59:21AJ Hawk:I agree. More players should be in it, the process.

2:59:24Adam Vinatieri:Next year, there's like 13 guys that could potentially be first batter.

2:59:28AJ Hawk:And I do believe everybody should have a say. media, front office, people that are well-deserving, that have the credentials and players.

2:59:35Adam Vinatieri:Hall of Famers.

2:59:36AJ Hawk:Correct.

2:59:37Adam Vinatieri:If they want to.

2:59:38AJ Hawk:Correct.

2:59:38Adam Vinatieri:If they watch ball. Correct. Yeah, because not everybody that is an ex-player watches ball. For sure. That is pretty apparent, especially during these Radio Row weeks.

2:59:46Pat McAfee:Some ex-legends will drop in there. What do you think the Seahawks? I'll tell you what Mac Jones has been able to do with his second opportunity up here in Seattle.

2:59:55Adam Vinatieri:This guy, Sam Darnold's his name.

2:59:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's what you're going to do.

2:59:59Adam Vinatieri:Same guy. There's a lot of that. So the people that know should be able to get in there is how we all feel. I'm happy you feel the same way. D-Bot has a question for you, Kyle.

3:00:05AQ Shipley:You obviously know we got to make our picks here soon, so I got to hear it from you. These two quarterbacks, I want to know, and I'll assume you have a dog in the fight, but I want to know which quarterback. Go ahead, bury Tom Brady, Tom. Which quarterback. Yeah. But which quarterback do you expect to have the better performance against these defenses that they're facing in the Super Bowl?

3:00:24AJ Hawk:That's a great question. Obviously, I'm going with the Patriots. I'm a two smart all decade linebacker so got to go with my squad. Hell yeah.

3:00:33Puka Nacua:No big deal.

3:00:35AJ Hawk:Drake May. Josh McDaniels has done an unbelievable job. He's still raw as we can see during the playoffs. Still making some throws that you're like hell yeah he's got it. I'm actually going to go with Darnold because they've been more successful on the run and I believe Darnold has JSN and I just think they're flowing right now more so than what the Patriots have done. So I like JSN and Darnold to get things going but something inside me is saying Drake May is going to be like I am here. I'm ready to take over this time. I'm going to put my hat in the ring with the Joe Burrow, the Justin Herbert, and Jalen Hurts in a Super Bowl.

3:01:28AJ Hawk:Like, you know, Joe Burrow played pretty good, but I just think Drake Mays is going to put his hat in the ring, and I think he's going to show the world that why he went number three, but he's that dude. Isn't it weird, though? Hell, yeah.

3:01:42Adam Vinatieri:Isn't it weird, though, that the four-and-a-half-point spread, My natural opinion is Vrabel's not going to let them lose by more than four and a half points. But last year, we'll blow out.

3:01:50AJ Hawk:And it could be because I will say Drake has turned the ball over. Yes, I'm going to rep Patriots. But on the flip side, you got to go back and look what he's been doing lately. Lately, it hasn't been what you want at all. A lot of good defenses. The best defenses. But two weeks and you're going against another team that I know prepares very well with Mike Mack, one of the best teachers in the game right now on defense. He's able to make one coverage and alignments look the same, where he can play different coverages in the same alignments, where it might get you a tick, tick, tick, bow.

3:02:30Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, there's a tick, tick, tick, bow, and that's what happened in a drink. Now, on that note, Hembo Stat here, the Patriots will become the third team to face the top three scoring defenses in a playoff run. Texans, Broncos, and then now the Seahawks. The 2006 Colts won all three. 1975 Cowboys have done that. So it's been a tough road for Drake May in his second year. Also, the weather hasn't been fantastic. A win's a win.

3:02:52AJ Hawk:Exactly.

3:02:52Adam Vinatieri:And that's the only thing that matters in New England. I think you all kind of feel that way, especially in playoff. Connor has a last question for you, Kyle.

3:02:58David Tepper:Yeah, just like with Denver. You know, you score 10 points, you win. Who cares? Josh McDaniels. Obviously, you play defense. He's on the offensive side. But what is he going to do, you think, for Drake May against Seattle? What would McDaniels do for Brady when they were going up against, you know, some of those top defenses as well?

3:03:14AJ Hawk:Great question. I think one thing that we saw the previous game when they were playing, sorry, the Rams were playing, Stafford had a good time checking the ball down and getting vertical, getting yak yards, getting 15, 20 yards of pop. I believe that this game is going to be a cat and mouse of like, hey, Drake, let's hit Henderson out the backfield. Let's see Hunter Henry catch a couple, get upfield to allow that zone to come get closer a little bit. Then Drake May is going to try to hit some shots, and you're going to get some trick plays to booty, to pop. I see that. If you go back and look at the Saints game, they were dunking on the Saints.

3:03:58AJ Hawk:Sorry, B. Staley, because B. Staley's defense played a lot, lot better over the season. But I just want to bring this up.

3:04:05Adam Vinatieri:Oh, yeah, I forgot he's still doing it, Donner.

3:04:07AJ Hawk:Oh, yeah. And I just believe it's going to be the cat and mouse game to find those deep down shots. But it's going to start with the cat and mouse of hitting the dink and dunks, letting those guys get up the field and get some yak because the Rams had success in their game doing that.

3:04:23Adam Vinatieri:Patience. And obviously the Rams had the MVP playing quarterback. Drake second place in the MVP voting. Having the discipline just to kind of take what they give you as opposed to wanting to do the big thing. I think Drake and Josh McDaniel should be able to figure that out. But who knows? Go ahead, Tone.

3:04:36Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, Kyle. I have a shit memory, so I apologize. I know you played the Steelers twice this year, and I can't remember how Aaron did or the results. But do you think Aaron's got another year in him if he wants to?

3:04:50AJ Hawk:He didn't have that catch that should have been a pick. Isaiah likely also was a touchdown in the last game. We don't want to get into that. But I do think he has enough juice. I think he needs more weapons. I do think the Vikings, after I've seen on Radio Row this week, that the Vikings players are a little like, hey, you know, hi, a little going on.

3:05:15Adam Vinatieri:That was rumored last year. Are you talking about Aaron? They're trying to recruit Aaron.

3:05:18Puka Nacua:Are you talking about Aaron Rodgers?

3:05:19Adam Vinatieri:I think so. Hey, the right side's sitting a little sideways on your head there. Oh, thank you. But Aaron Rodgers in Kevin O 'Connell's offense, we talked about that all last year. It's like if he just has to know what the defense is and then pick where he needs to go, he has to be accurate.

3:05:32AJ Hawk:A lot of coaches like, you know, control. Aaron Rodgers comes in. Are you going to get that control? You're saying maybe KOC's offense becomes K-A-A-R Rod's C offense.

3:05:49Adam Vinatieri:That's what you're saying. But the thought of Aaron Rodgers and KOC's offense is one that we all got. With Jettas? Well, and also KOC can scheme up anybody open. Jordan Addison's wide-ass open.

3:06:00AJ Hawk:Yeah, Hawkinson, who we don't even hear about, who's our dog.

3:06:03Adam Vinatieri:Aaron Jones in the backfield. Justin Jefferson had 180 yards in the first half of a game. He's supposed to not be a game wrecker. So, like, if Kevin O 'Connell can scheme up Justin Jefferson to have 180 yards, if Aaron Rodgers is potentially throwing the football to those people, I think we all got pretty excited about the possibilities, but interesting dynamic there.

3:06:21AJ Hawk:I want to throw a last thing before you touched on it. I don't know everybody's thoughts on it. You brought up the MVP missing the one vote. I'm sure you guys saw the gentleman that came out and said, I voted for Herbert. I don't know if you've touched on that. We have not really. I've been bouncing around. I would love to know quick thoughts down the road real quick. What are your thoughts?

3:06:42David Tepper:What exactly did the guy say?

3:06:43AJ Hawk:He came out and voted for Justin Herbert and said he was the most valuable player. He did more with less, right? Yes, of what he had. His O-line was trash. Sorry. We've seen the BFF. Let's not give them credit either. No, no, no, I'm not. I hate them. Okay, me too. I am too. But they didn't play well. You can see that on film. Okay. And I understand what he's saying, but then it's kind of like, well, you could do that for anybody, right?

3:07:12Adam Vinatieri:Yeah. I mean, it's – You could do that for Max Crosby. He came out – That's what I'm saying. He came out, and I think he thought he was going to be a hero. And that is not – especially right after the Bill Belichick shit. It was a bold move. Yeah, it was a very – now, he is a voter.

3:07:25AJ Hawk:But I do respect that he came out and said it, though. Agreed. I do give him that. He didn't hide like some people are hiding right now about the Hall of Fame voting.

3:07:35Adam Vinatieri:But the block was hot for voters.

3:07:37AJ Hawk:Yes.

3:07:37Adam Vinatieri:So him throwing himself out there saying, you know what? Actually, yeah, everybody else is maybe saying it was a two-horse race. I've been saying this whole time. It's a fucking guy nobody else says. And it's like, well, sir, it's a one-vote difference here. If you would have participated in the thing, maybe you would have a little bit of a...

3:07:53AJ Hawk:And that's why I asked that question. Like, what are your thoughts?

3:07:55Adam Vinatieri:I don't have a vote. Tone has a vote, though. What are your thoughts on your co-AP voters potentially thinking outside the box to maybe punt on having to make an actual decision? Congrats on having a vote. It's awesome. It is. It's awesome.

3:08:06Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I take it very seriously. Yeah. I think it's a – I am a fan of the doing more with less vote. I did that last year with Josh Allen, even though Lamar probably had the better stats. I know. I know. But then I looked at it this year. Stafford had 45 touchdowns or whatever. But I thought they have the best wide receiver room in the entire NFL. You know, you've got McVay and everyone there. So I thought Drake having the highest completion percentage of all time while also having the highest yards per attempt while doing that with wide receivers who Stephon's coming off. Stephon Diggs is awesome, but he's coming off an ACL.

3:08:43Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:You know, you have Boutte and Pop Douglas and Hunter Henry. But, like, those aren't, like, names you're like, holy shit, that's Pukin and Kula and Devontae Adams or whatever. So I went with Drake. I don't mind thinking. I think there's like a do more with less angle, but I think there's a line. I think Drake could have been the do more with less. If you were going to do the do more with less,

3:09:02Adam Vinatieri:you could participate in what the MVP race was.

3:09:05Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:You could do more with less, but then also have MVP numbers. Like, that's a thing. So that's why I went with Drake in that one. I get the Herbert thing, but I don't. Like, that's – I mean, there's a line.

3:09:16Puka Nacua:Yeah, but also, Sam, I appreciate you doing it. Go ahead. I like Sam. That was a goofball move. Yeah.

3:09:20AQ Shipley:We are. We're dancing. What? He told her, that's a goofball move. Sam, you know better than that. I talked to him. He said, hey, Sam, you're killing it. And I saw that last night.

3:09:28AJ Hawk:Come on, Sam. Take it back.

3:09:30AQ Shipley:Take his vote away.

3:09:32Adam Vinatieri:What? See, is that comfy? Was that comfy back there? Everybody's calling for votes now. The Bill Belichick thing right into this, I think, is really the kind of leaner there whenever you talk about it. But, yeah, Sam coming out and saying, let me tell you, somebody that has one of these 50 votes, why I did what I did and why everybody else was wrong.

3:09:50AJ Hawk:basically yeah we appreciate that's what i said you did it so you open the door but we should take away the vote thank you but we'll take that back uh okay will you do a shot for charity if that's what you would like me to do i will do it okay we would like that all right that would be nice can i take off this no that's the only rule but we got to get the crowd going everybody Come on. Here we go.

3:10:26Puka Nacua:Come on. Not terrible. No, not terrible. Check ball, Bill. Check ball, Bill, bang. Bang.

3:10:37AJ Hawk:Bill, Bill. Come on, Bill. I look like a linebacker shooting. That's what. Back. I tried to go bang three times.

3:10:47Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Hey, you were better than the other BYU linebacker we had on. He was terrible.

3:10:52AJ Hawk:All right, last shot. Shout out my dog Fred Warner. My dog's jacked right now. That's all he's been doing is eating weights. He had a worse shot.

3:11:00Puka Nacua:And you had Pook on? Hey, let's go. We are a problem. We're been showing. Let's go. Let's go. Jameis on, too. Jameis, obviously. Yeah.

3:11:09Adam Vinatieri:We've been talking to the Lord out here a little bit. Hell yeah. It's football. It's a word's game. Amen. Hey, man. One last shot.

3:11:15AJ Hawk:Okay.

3:11:16Adam Vinatieri:We got to try to make it, though. I feel like you've been trying to, like, you know.

3:11:19AJ Hawk:Make it, like, look decent. Cool fit, by the way. Thank you. Very good. Yours, too. Thank you. How tall are you? And yours, too.

3:11:25David Tepper:Thank you, sir. How tall are you?

3:11:28AJ Hawk:Guess.

3:11:28David Tepper:6 '5". It looks like 6 '4". No, but I appreciate that. 6 '4".

3:11:32AJ Hawk:I'm 6 '4". Mary, so you're tall. I think we forget how tall. Yeah, TV makes me look kind of small, because I think it's because you're going around these big-ass old linemen. Like AQ. AQ? No, AQ's small now.

3:11:46Adam Vinatieri:No, he's not. The mountain Thor wouldn't even squat him because he's too fat.

3:11:51AJ Hawk:I was hanging out with him back there.

3:11:53Adam Vinatieri:For 20 grand to a charity of your choosing.

3:11:55AJ Hawk:Okay.

3:11:56Adam Vinatieri:This is it.

3:11:57AJ Hawk:All right.

3:11:58Adam Vinatieri:Kyle Van Noy representing BYU. All right.

3:12:02Darius Butler:That was trash.

3:12:03AJ Hawk:Not even close. I will say, hey, I did yesterday in this little booth. I called my shot with a nine iron, 172.7. hit that. Yes, 99. 172.7. Lululemon, they had to call corporate because they had to give me more money for how much I made doing the call on my shot.

3:12:25Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Hell yeah.

3:12:26AJ Hawk:Let's go.

3:12:27Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Are you just creeping away?

3:12:30AJ Hawk:I was like, I'm out of here. Thank you. Give a comment. Thank you.

3:12:37Adam Vinatieri:Okay, yeah, you got it. Please do. Welcome out there anytime. Great to see you, man.

3:12:44David Tepper:See you, brother.

3:12:45Adam Vinatieri:Now is the time.

3:12:46David Tepper:See you, buddy.

3:12:47Adam Vinatieri:We've gotten here.

3:12:49David Tepper:Yeah, sorry, dude. He's been pacing in the back.

3:12:52Adam Vinatieri:Keeping the energy. We appreciate you, dude. Take care, brother. We'll see you soon. Kyle's awesome.

3:12:58Puka Nacua:Yeah. Yeah.

3:12:59AQ Shipley:Always.

3:13:00Adam Vinatieri:I didn't know he was going to be here. Did you guys know he was going to be here? No. Well, I saw him back there, but yeah. Yeah, you guys kind of got eyes on us. I can see you. I'm getting ears from Bruce. Kyle Van Nooy's back here.

3:13:10Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:AQ's been giving me the brain like every five minutes.

3:13:12Puka Nacua:Who is the guy?

3:13:13Adam Vinatieri:What?

3:13:13Puka Nacua:What's that?

3:13:14Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:What do you mean? You squeeze and it looks like a brain.

3:13:16Puka Nacua:Okay, yep. So, who was the guy that was just walking around out here?

3:13:21Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:He used to do the incredible ad reads. Jim Gray.

3:13:24Puka Nacua:I'll tell you what.

3:13:27Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:All right. With Tom. He hosted the show with Tom.

3:13:29Puka Nacua:Yeah. I understand that. I thought he was hosting. Yeah, he was trying to host this show today.

3:13:35Adam Vinatieri:He's a good guy. I guess. I don't know, actually. He's been around. I've never met him. Okay, I've never met him today. He's just standing on a fucking stage for 10 seconds before we go live. You know, hey, why is this guy in here? Who is this guy? And then it turns out, it's Jim Gray. Hey, let me tell you about Morty's. Okay, I know Jim Gray. Oh, yeah. You nailed it. Why is this guy on our. That was a good question. He's just kind of walking. I guess he's allowed to do whatever he wants.

3:13:56Darius Butler:Yeah, I don't know if he does that. Let's go podcast with Larry. Because remember, initially, Larry was part of the thing with Tom. And then Tom just doesn't do it anymore. But I don't see anything. And I certainly don't hear the ad reads anymore.

3:14:09Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, so on that note, it was nice to see him, but it does feel like people just got real comfortable just kind of walking in and out back there. I hope they got all the drinks, okay? We try to fill them up, and we've been very thankful to everybody that stopped by here. It has been cool to meet everybody, and the only way to end our Radio Row experience is with the same person that has ended our Radio Row experience since the days in which we had the same size stage as Shine has right now. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, representing Canada, Sports Rage, Gabe Moretz.

3:14:38David Tepper:Yeah, Gabe.

3:14:42Puka Nacua:There it is. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go.

3:14:55AQ Shipley:Come on. Jack is clean. Drink it in, motherfucker.

3:14:59David Tepper:Always great to see you, buddy. Go, Tom. Go, Tom.

3:15:03Puka Nacua:Yes.

3:15:05Adam Vinatieri:Thank you, Gabe. Hey, baby.

3:15:10Kyle Van Noy:Who's got it better than us? Nobody!

3:15:15Adam Vinatieri:Okay, Gabe, for the people that are watching here in the United States of America, they do not fully understand that you are a man up there in Canada who basically started talking about sports gambling as a radio show 35, 40 years ago. Been in the game a long time.

3:15:29Kyle Van Noy:Not quite that long, but a long time. How long has it been? We're moving in on our 25th anniversary this year. Long time. This year. And this is our fifth anniversary right here with you on Media Row. A tradition like no other, right, Augusta? The Buffalo Bills choking and not being here and me being on the show.

3:15:47Adam Vinatieri:He's not our Bills fan, obviously, and I've learned a lot about you through Gumpy, who is obviously one of your biggest fans. What you've done for us here at Radio Row is bring great juice, but also great odds on things that we haven't thought about. You will tweet every single thought that you have out on TV.

3:16:03Kyle Van Noy:Too many of them, yes.

3:16:05Adam Vinatieri:We have a guy here who has your notifications on, actually. Do you think about how crazy that is? This man has your notifications on, and it keeps us informed on every thought that you have, including the wind outside of your apartment someday. We love you. We appreciate you. What have you been looking at for this Super Bowl? What is your mindset on how the game is going to go, and how are you profiting off of it? And in turn, what do we need to be looking at, you think?

3:16:26Kyle Van Noy:I'll tell you what. Anytime a point spread is four, four and a half, five points, it means the odds makers are kind of stumped as well. and it's never sexy to say everybody wants to have a stone cold lock and this is going to happen. The odds makers are good at their job, really good at their job. And I wouldn't be surprised if this game sort of lands right around both numbers, the 45 and a half, which is the total, and as well as what the point spread is at four and a half right now. Everybody's underestimated the New England Patriots all year. We've talked about their cupcake schedules and I'm going to throw it out there right now.

3:16:59Kyle Van Noy:What, you know, analytics, what are the first four letters of analytics? Anal. Exactly. I've heard people talk, oh, analytically, the Patriots are the worst team since 1978 with the best record. Well, you know what? They're playing in the motherfucking Super Bowl. Well fucking said. Yeah, maybe they're not the DVO way. What the hell does DVO mean anyways? Good question. What does it mean? Seriously, you're a pretty good football player. What does it mean? We didn't use it in our film study. I don't know. You did go to Ohio State, though. Oh, Michigan man. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. No worries. You keep on coming.

3:17:36David Tepper:He's a Michigan man?

3:17:37Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Anything that goes through there, you let him out. He's president for a few years.

3:17:40Kyle Van Noy:But I couldn't, I can't help but overlook the fact, guys, that the New England Patriots, they played three playoff games. Teams have played three playoff games coming into the Super Bowl. No team has scored least points in the New England Patriots since the 1979 Los Angeles Rams. Shout out to Vince Ferragamo. Wow. Started in that Super Bowl. Right? So they averaged 28 points a game in the regular season, down to 18 in the playoffs. Yeah, I know it was bad weather, but everybody's playing in the same weather right now. The good news is they've given up the least points since the 2000 Ravens. Okay.

3:18:14Kyle Van Noy:That's why they're here. But they've also 15 sacks. I have a problem with this. Ultimately, I just see many more pathways for Seattle to get there. I believe in Sam Darnold. And one thing that caught my eye, guys, I'm not going to get too exotic with props, But Seattle have been super aggressive early in games, Pat. We saw them just ambush the San Francisco 49ers early. They scored on their first drive of the game against the Los Angeles Rams. I think Seattle guys are going to score on their first drive of the game. Whoa. Like right away. Okay. I think Seattle score. And let's get a little bit.

3:18:48Kyle Van Noy:I don't think people are looking at it this way. I think both teams are going to score on their first drive of the game. Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

3:18:55Adam Vinatieri:We have some Hembo stats. That's opening drive for each team of the last 25 Super Bowls. 29 punts, 9 field goals, 4 turnovers, 4 touchdowns, 2 safeties, 1 turnover on downs, 1 missed field goal. 55 points on 50 drives. What does that stat tell you? It's going to change this weekend.

3:19:11Kyle Van Noy:Yeah, that stat tells me this is why I'm getting plus 350 odds for this. Okay. Seattle have scored touchdowns on the first two drives of both playoff games already. They're going to want to be aggressive. And I like Seattle in the first half, guys, laying the three points in the first half. You look at Signetti. I look at Seattle like a Big Ten team. And I'm in the Pacific Northwest now, Pat, and I get all the Seattle coverage. I caught on early during training camp, and you guys would know better than I would. But when a team buys in, Darius, you know what I mean?

3:19:39AQ Shipley:When everybody likes each other, there's a bunch of DBs.

3:19:42Kyle Van Noy:You're not really competing. You're one. McDonald has sold them as a one. Reminds me of a college football team. Very Michigan-like. You know what I mean? They fly to the ball. They run some play action. They want to get a lead. Similar to Indiana, what Signetti did, wants to punch you in the mouth early, get a lead, put the pressure on you. I think McDonald and the Seahawks and Kubiak is going to be the next head coach of the Raiders. I think he's going to go out with a bang like we are on this show right now. Boom! And he's going to bust out the playbook. And I look for Seattle's offense to click here more than people expect.

3:20:15Adam Vinatieri:Okay, so you like Seattle in the first half, minus three. Then you like both teams to score on the first drive, plus 350.

3:20:21Kyle Van Noy:That's a nice little plus 350 pick. I'm going to give one for the kickers here. Please do. Yeah, since it's out of Venetari, congratulations to the Hall of Fame induction. Well done. Let's go long field goal prop. I think I invented this prop. You probably did. No, like seriously, I've been betting this thing for like 20, you know, 30, 30 years where people are like, what the hell is that? Now we got the long field goal prop. It's pretty casual. It's only 48 and a half yards. Oh, hammered. Oh, hammered. And we got two coaches here, too, guys, that aren't these modern sort of psychopaths that are allergic to field goals.

3:20:55Kyle Van Noy:I think Seattle, we've seen, they'll settle for three. They'll take the three points. I think Vrabel, same thing. Take the three. Let's not get too crazy. Three points, three points, they all add up. I'm so sick and tired of seeing these so-called genius coaches and the analytics once again. They go for it all the time on their first drive of the game. They can't settle for kicking a field goal. And they end up losing a fucking game by three points all the time. No, I can't do it. All the time. AJ, all the time.

3:21:21Adam Vinatieri:Can't do it. Last question for me before the boys have a bunch of questions. What are we hearing about the national anthem?

3:21:27Kyle Van Noy:You know what? I would go under. Everybody likes to go over all the time. I would say under, but I'm not a big national anthem prop. But since you asked me and we're here, let's have some fun with this. Yeah, let's dance around. Yeah, for an exotic prop littering figuratively, let's go plus 450. Sexuality of streaker. Male, female. Bill, give me non-binary at plus 450. Let's take outside the box. All right, that's plus 450? Plus 450. So how do we think we know?

3:21:57Puka Nacua:How do we find out if you've hit or not?

3:22:00Adam Vinatieri:Is that going to be you?

3:22:01Kyle Van Noy:Are you going to jump out there and say, ah, they then? I got to be the first person ever to give a non-binary prop on the show. You have to be. But that's the sports range difference. We were looking for something exotic, right? We are in San Francisco. Somebody might want to make a bold statement. Plus 450. It seems like that should be a little bit higher odds. Tone has a question. That's what I'm saying, Pat. The fact that it's not higher odds makes me believe that somebody knows. Yeah.

3:22:28Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Go ahead, Tone. Gabe, I have a I've given out a play of the day today. I have a play of the day. It's AJ Barner. Oh, yes. His over under rushing yards is a half a yard. OK, he's had 10 rushes on the season. He is their tush push guy. They've only done it twice in the last eight weeks. I took the under half a yard rushing on A.J. Barner Sunday. How do you feel about it?

3:22:50Kyle Van Noy:Oh, you're going under. I'll tell you what. I like A.J. Barner a lot in this football game. And in fact, if you guys remember, we gave Odell Beckham as the first touchdown. I am on St. Hunts. Remember years ago. That was a sweet one. It would be easy to get him. Kenneth Walker is going to score the first touchdown. JSN is plus 550, guys. Which is not a bad odds for that. Come on. But we all know, and it's been said a million times, Vrabel, they're going to sell out, man, right? To shut down JSN. I think Cooper Cup is the big – I think Cooper Cup, he's getting another ring. He's going to get the last laugh here on the way out.

3:23:27Kyle Van Noy:Fuck you. His prop – sorry, Boston Carter. His prop – Right in his face. His prop was two and a half. It's up to three and a half right now. But I think Cooper Cup's going to score a touchdown, and we've got to do something exotic here. something bold. A.J. Barner, first touchdown of the game. What is it? Plus 1 ,400. Okay. Go blue. Go blue. Could you imagine if you hit that right there?

3:23:54Adam Vinatieri:That'd be a good day for the entire program.

3:23:56Kyle Van Noy:Guys, he had the second most touchdowns, receiving touchdowns on the team. He's a monster. You get great numbers, because people think it's going to be a lower scoring game. People think that Sam Darnold sucks. So all the props are low for the Seattle players. Even JSN at six and a half, you can sell out. He's still getting eight, nine catches. In this game, right? They're going to fight different ways. They're going to move them around. But Cooper Cup is up to three and a half receptions right now, but it's plus 130 to the over. They brought Cooper Cup in for a reason. Exactly a game like this.

3:24:25Kyle Van Noy:He's been in this spot before. They're going to sell it on JSN. Cooper Cup's going to be a nice safety blanket. I don't want to put too much pressure on Barner. His prop is two and a half catches. Good eye by Tone talking about how he does. He is used as a tush push, and he does run the ball sometimes. but you're getting, like, plus 250 odds for him to score a touchdown. Cooper Cupps in the plus 300 range to score a touchdown. These odds are just too good. Everybody is going to be putting Walker and JSN in their same game parlays. Let's start a little lower on the list.

3:24:59Puka Nacua:God, Gabe, I love the way you've been talking. Go ahead, D-Bud.

3:25:01AQ Shipley:You know, I'm a defensive guy, so I want a defensive bet. You gave us a great gimmicky bet last year, the total tackle. You asked me about it, too. Never heard of him. So, two-parter, what's a good defensive bet? And also, it's year five now. What's your record? That's what people want to know, too.

3:25:18Kyle Van Noy:Well, our record here now, this is year five. We're 3-1. And the one we lost was the Philadelphia Eagles against the Kansas City Chiefs. So, I really do want to end strong here with a nice 4-1 through the first five years.

3:25:28Adam Vinatieri:I want to let you know this, Gabe. Whenever we were eyeballing Radio Row here, we had a dry race board with all the names that were getting pitched to us. First time we've done this because we're starting to kind of figure it out and people are reaching out to us. there was only one name that was really slotted into the thing. You know that. It was yours. And it was right there at the bottom. And it's not just because how much we love you, but because you have given us great information over the years. It feels like this is a perfect time to hear all of your years' worth of work kind of splew through the microphone.

3:26:00Adam Vinatieri:So we appreciate you doing that. But if you lose this time, we'll never fucking see you again.

3:26:03Kyle Van Noy:I appreciate the opportunity and the platform.

3:26:07Adam Vinatieri:No, no. No pressure.

3:26:09Kyle Van Noy:No pressure at all.

3:26:10Adam Vinatieri:No, we do love you. and you give us winners. I appreciate that, man. It feels like Super Bowl. You're seeing it clearly normally. Is that kind of how you feel? You know what?

3:26:16Kyle Van Noy:I've been pretty locked in this year in the NFL and in the playoffs as well. I've had a good feel for the Seattle Seahawks this year right through training camp, right? And it sort of started to buy in for the culture change of Metcalf and Lockett and Geno Smith not being there anymore. McDonald wanted to make it his team. And they just bought in right now. So I just really, really like the makeup of this team and seeing how they came together. I do think Seattle are going to finish the job off. I've flip-flopped a little bit with my final score. You know, I was thinking 30-21 Seattle. 30-21? Yeah, but in that range.

3:26:56Kyle Van Noy:But I've got it a little bit now. I've settled in. 27-20 will be my final score prediction. 27-20, you can get that at about 100-1, 125-1 in that range with the final score.

3:27:08Adam Vinatieri:And the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions.

3:27:10Kyle Van Noy:Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions once again. I think the game goes over the number, the 45 and a half. I just think it's a little bit too light that we're going to get into the high 40s, low 50s here.

3:27:19Adam Vinatieri:Does it scare you that 70-some percent of the public bets were on the Seahawks last week and now it's 65 percent? Yeah, I hate that.

3:27:26Kyle Van Noy:I hate that. The Patriots would be the...

3:27:28Adam Vinatieri:Because the Habibu is a good gambler.

3:27:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, good underdog stats as well.

3:27:31Kyle Van Noy:Full disclosure, like, I'm supposed to hate the Patriots. It's almost like the Boston Celtics. Like, Jason Tatum's a hard dude to hate. Like, how do you hate? It's like hating a puppy.

3:27:42David Tepper:Yes.

3:27:42Kyle Van Noy:Like, how do you hate Jason Tatum? Like, what's Jason Tatum done wrong? Like, you know, I really hate that son of a bitch. And it's the same thing, like, the Patriots over the years, especially as a Bill fan, and all due respect to the legend Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, but it just sickened me watch them kick our ass, like, year after year after year. Drake May's a good kid. Mike Vrabel, I go back, guys, my first Super Bowl pad on Meteor Row was Nipplegate, the Janet Jackson game. Jackson Timberlake. That was my first Super Bowl on Meteor Row, and it was quite an adventurous week. And I'll never forget Mike Vrabel, one-on-one, you know, the big media scry, everyone's all this.

3:28:25Kyle Van Noy:You know, hey, you know, I go up. Mike Vrabel is the nicest guy in the world to me. 10, 15 minutes. Shout out to Tyrone Poole, too old school. Hell yeah. Typool was super cool with me, like my first ever Super Bowl, and it always stuck with me, man, what a cool dude Vrabel was. So I'm happy to see Vrabel here, actually. Yeah, the Tennessee Titans. Guys, he's a dog, as you guys would say.

3:28:42Adam Vinatieri:Tennessee Titans, good decision.

3:28:44Kyle Van Noy:Yeah.

3:28:45Adam Vinatieri:They're in a great spot.

3:28:46Kyle Van Noy:Derek Henry, they had Vrabel, not anymore.

3:28:48Adam Vinatieri:AJ Brown, can you tell me a little bit about Radio Row as a whole, Media Row as a whole, your thoughts on how it's kind of evolved, or has it evolved? What are your thoughts on it?

3:28:56Kyle Van Noy:You know what? It's kind of the same every year. I think it's a little bit less of a circus this year than past years here because it's so spread out. There's a lot of the media, Seattle media, are set up in San Jose. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah, that's where they're set up. And I know you guys talked about the power plant earlier, but no offense to San Jose State University, but I'm thinking that the Seahawks really must not want to practice at the 49ers facility. They're like, yeah, we'll go to San Jose State. Right?

3:29:23Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Yeah, no one's practicing there. Pats are at Stanford.

3:29:26Kyle Van Noy:Yeah, Patriots at Stanford as well. But as far as the MVP of this game is concerned, the media always likes to validate their wrong opinions over the years. And everybody in the media has taken shots at Sam Darnold. He's, you know, he's not this. He's not that. He's not elite. And I don't know what the guy needs to do.

3:29:48Puka Nacua:What does he want, like 30 games in the last two years now, Pat? 346 four-tons, too, in the playoffs.

3:29:54Adam Vinatieri:He just got done with doing it.

3:29:55Kyle Van Noy:Like, unbelievable. And you know, Darius, as a DB, Sam Darnold throws just those great darts over the middle, quick, tight spaces and stuff. And I think Kubiak has done an awesome job putting him in positions to succeed. Too many coordinators ask quarterbacks to do things that they can't do. I think they've done a brilliant job with Darnold, and I think it finishes off, and he becomes the first USC Trojan quarterback to win a Super Bowl. How about the MVP? MVP, it's not sexy, but we'll have to go with Sam Darnold. But if we're looking for an outlier here, and oh, yeah, we like Shahid over the 21.5 receiving yards.

3:30:32Kyle Van Noy:All it could take is one play with him. And let's just say the other side of the coin here, that the defenses rule this game. And not much happens. Maybe a Shahid punt return for a touchdown is the difference maker. And you're getting a nice, like, 35-to-1 range for him.

3:30:47Adam Vinatieri:Yeah, plus 3 ,000 is currently Shahid sitting at DraftKings right now. Now, Kenneth Walker plus 850, because to his point about media trying to back up their own opinions, could definitely see the Seattle Seahawks winning the Super Bowl and Sam Donald not winning the MVP. Absolutely.

3:31:04Kyle Van Noy:Usually it's an automatic. It's the quarterback, right? But I'm kind of in the minority here, Pat, that I think Kenneth Walker will have an impact on the game. But, look, his over-under is 18 and a half rushing attempts. New England are hard to run on.

3:31:19David Tepper:Oh, yeah.

3:31:19Kyle Van Noy:Like, they're really hard to run on. And this is one game. A lot of time, Pat, you play the Super Bowl. That clock ticks fast, huh? Oh, yeah. It's like last call at a strip club. You look it up. It's like, yeah, we got to get out of here. It's like, damn, it's already three. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So the clock tips, you know, it's going fast in a Super Bowl. I think that they're going to be aggressive. I think there's going to be opportunities here. And we talked about defensive props, actually. Drake May has been sacked 15 times. And it's not like, oh, it was just 10 times in one game or something and it was outlier.

3:31:51Kyle Van Noy:No, he's been sacked in all five games, you know, five times in all three games. You can get it at two and a half, three and a half, you know, lay some juice at two and a half with the Seahawks. But I'd be shocked if the Seahawks don't have, like, three sacks in this game. Coin toss. Coin toss, I always go with tails.

3:32:07Puka Nacua:Me too. We're going to win this year. Hell yeah.

3:32:11Kyle Van Noy:You're the best, Gabe. Hey, Pat, you're the best. We're going to make our picks now. Will you stay out here for it? I always appreciate it. I got a quick story about the jacket. It looks good. Not a bad one this year. Oh, good one. Good one. And also good entrance out there with the back. Yeah, I figured I'd go big, but I helped this store. Shout out to the Intercontinental Hotel. I think they're going to be watching this show. The guy didn't believe me at first. I'll be wearing this jacket on a McAfee show in a couple hours. Shout out. So I put the jacket on, and I hear somebody say, Yo, I need that jacket.

3:32:41Kyle Van Noy:I turn around, it's Tracy Morgan. Okay. And Tracy Morgan goes, that's the best jacket I've ever seen in my life. I need four of them. I think he thought I worked there or something. Possible. I was like, I said, yeah, not bad. He goes, yeah, yeah, where'd you get it? I told him on the wall. And then the store owner was real happy, Pat. This jacket's going for like 500 bucks. No, it's not. I bought one, and Tracy Morgan bought four on the spot. Wow. He was like, I hope you come back later. I was like, yeah, I bet you do. Yeah, well, it's a great jacket. I think this one's a great jacket. Oh, I think this is the best one, guys.

3:33:12Kyle Van Noy:It is nice. Nah, there was that. Maybe. Well, the Hollywood one.

3:33:15Puka Nacua:Remember the Rose Bowl? You like that one, AJ. Hey, you know what? But Tracy Morgan's buying this one. I think we got to. Hey, next year is in L.A. Maybe we got to bust out the vintage next year.

3:33:28Adam Vinatieri:Especially if they're going to keep charging 500 bucks for this.

3:33:31Puka Nacua:Yeah, maybe we recycle the old one. Maybe people wouldn't notice yet. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because the only time I see the jacket is when you walk out. Right now. It always looks great.

3:33:41Adam Vinatieri:Okay, let's make our official picks. We'll go around. Ty, we'll start with you. Seattle Seahawks, minus four and a half. Super Bowl Sunday. McDonald's. Sam Donald. Sports Rage. Gabe Berenci says the Seattle Seahawks win.

3:33:56Pat McAfee:27-20. Cover. Overhits as well. Do you see it the same as Sports Rage? And can you do this as Gabe Berenci? Well, you know what I mean?

3:34:05Darius Butler:I could probably try. I don't know if I'm going to be able to have the same type of juice. all week coming into this game, I thought Seattle's going to beat the fuck out of me. But the closer we've gotten to this day, maybe it's because the rage is flowing through me. I can't believe I'm fucking saying this, but I like the Patriots. 24-21. So I'm going to have to disagree with you. A lot of great stats. Diving into it, obviously. But it's Drake May's time.

3:34:35Kyle Van Noy:Boston Card doesn't even seem happy about this.

3:34:37David Tepper:I mean, at the end of the day, we all know Super Bowl's won on Sunday, not today. And, of course, when Ty Rage is on the New England Patriots side, it means more. But everything you said is exactly why the Patriots will win. Everyone loves the Seahawks, 74 % of the money. The underdogs, the easy schedule, all this bullshit, this is what happens with New England. And this is exactly why people hate the New England Patriots, because they feel like every single time, and I say they feel, other people who aren't Pats fans feel like every time they win the Super Bowl, it's for some bullshit reason, like an easy schedule, like Jared Stidham in the AFC Championship, like bad weather against the Texans.

3:35:19David Tepper:And if you go back and look, everybody's picking against the Patriots damn near every week. Like after Houston, a lot of people liked Houston, and then the Patriots beat the fuck out of them, and then, well, weather stunk and C.J. Stroud stunk. So that's not because the Patriots lost. No, you're right.

3:35:36Kyle Van Noy:People were saying they had the best defense in the NFL going into that game.

3:35:38David Tepper:Exactly. Oh, yeah. Three for three in the red zone. Yeah. And they were. They were historic all year. But it feels like every single time people have counted the pats out, they've answered the bell. And I just don't see how McDaniels coaching in his ninth, appearing in his tenth Super Bowl with the Drake May. He's going to know what to do. You know, the Seahawks defense is great. It's not in the top three of best defenses McDaniels ever gone up against, especially in a Super Bowl situation. So personally, I mean, I don't want to go out on a limb, but I'm going to go, you know, 33-13. Okay. That's not a limb.

3:36:15David Tepper:Alternate strength. That's not a limb.

3:36:19Puka Nacua:Sam Darnold doesn't like playing the Pats. That's a ledge. That's not a limb, Pat. That's a ledge. All the way out there.

3:36:24Adam Vinatieri:But, hey, you got to go out on the limb because that's where.

3:36:27David Tepper:Isn't that where the fruit is?

3:36:28Adam Vinatieri:That's right. Sometimes you got to do that. 33-10. Okay. You've got a 23-point win over there for Connor and four-point win for the Patriots by Ty. The toxic table firmly in the New England Patriots corner, which I respect, by the way, boys. I like that we're together. Thank you, Ty.

3:36:44Darius Butler:Drink it in, motherfucker.

3:36:46Adam Vinatieri:I will drink it in. Go, Tom! He's got a one-half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP Tone, official pick of the game.

3:36:53Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:I do think it's going to be a cagey affair. I think the defenses will rule the day. Obviously, there's going to be some points. So I'm going the under, and I'm going to go 23-20 Seattle.

3:37:05Adam Vinatieri:Oh, cover by the Patriots. Good cover. Patriots plus 4.5.

3:37:09Kyle Van Noy:That's the Madden prediction, by the way. I did not know that. Yeah, I would not have known that either, but my table is right next to them, and they had it up on the right. We're doing a lot of talking about this.

3:37:19Adam Vinatieri:So here's a favorite by 3.5 to 6.5 point in the Super Bowl. Last five instances, says Hembo. Obviously, Rams, Patriots, Panthers, and Niners. In those five games, favorites went 1-4 outright and 0-5 against the spread. Seahawks sit there at favored by 4.5. Feels like we have three Patriot covers here by the Toxic Table into tone.

3:37:39Larry Fitzgerald Jr.:Dogs have covered five straight and 14 of the last 18, I believe.

3:37:43Adam Vinatieri:Two weeks to prepare for a team. D-Butt, you were drafted to the New England Patriots. You thought about putting your bandwagon behind the New England Patriots. Haven't made an official announcement yet. How do you see the game going, D-Butt?

3:37:53AQ Shipley:Oh, I see it being a cagey affair as well. And I feel like more of the star power going into this one. We do have, obviously, set runner-up and MVP with Drake May, who's had a great year. But more star power. JSN, you got Nick Immenwar, who's a superstar. Leonard Williams, Kenneth Walker. Everybody's talking about those guys. But you mentioned Josh McDaniels being in his 10th Super Bowl, coaching in his ninth. Vrabel, he played a ton as a player, first one as a coach. I'm going to give the Patriots an edge. 28-24. Yes. Patriots win Super Bowl 6.

3:38:23Adam Vinatieri:Okay, this is very abnormal, I think, our show. And this might be because we are hanging with Connor so much. Everybody here picking Patriots.

3:38:32Kyle Van Noy:Am I the only one on Seattle? We're going to find out next.

3:38:34Adam Vinatieri:AJ Hawk, we currently sit. I'm 9-8-5 on the season against you. Obviously, that makes you 8-9-5. Okay. Last week, you won. Or two weeks ago, you won 0-2. I won 1-1. Okay, shout out to the Seahawks. Shout out up there in the Pacific Northwest. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it for the Super Bowl? Are the Patriots all the way back? Are they going to win? Are they going to cover? The Seattle Seahawks are going to do their thing. Are you with sports rage? Are you with Connor rage?

3:39:02David Tepper:Well, I do like the idea of a cagey affair. I think that could happen. I think teams might be a little tight early. Maybe take some little easy completions, but maybe punt the ball back and forth, even though you say they're going to score touchdowns on both drives.

3:39:14Kyle Van Noy:Field goals win the bet. Oh, field goals. Yeah, score on both drives. That's not bad.

3:39:19David Tepper:But when I think about it, I agree. Josh McDaniels, the guy's an absolute wizard as far as offensive play color and dialing up matchups and finding the matchups he wants. I'm taking Patriots 21, Seahawks 17.

3:39:31Puka Nacua:Oh, shit.

3:39:32Adam Vinatieri:Wow. And on that note, I'll take the Patriots plus four and a half as well. Okay. And congrats to me. Another big-time win this season against A.J. Hawk. We're excited about that. That is good news. To the boys in the back, great work this week, boys. Good work, boys. We appreciate you all so much. To the ESPN production crew that spent a lot of time building this all together, Barco, Josh, and team. We appreciate the hell out of you guys. Great work. Great work. This is the best setup we've had in a long, long time. To the Mystic folks who created this entire stage, a set, and also the podiums for the Hall of Fame face-off and everything like that, we appreciate you, Ben.

3:40:05Adam Vinatieri:You're the man over there, brother. Your entire team is really good shit. To all the people that hung out with us here, we can't thank you guys enough. And to football, thank you for having the greatest year of all time. Ratings are up and to the right for college ball and the NFL, and I think this Sunday the greatest game possible is going to take place. I know there's not a lot of superstars, but brand-new faces are about to take the NFL to brand-new places as we continue to ascend up into the right. Thank you so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me. Team on three. Be a friend.

3:40:34Adam Vinatieri:Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Sports Ranch. Gabe, anything to say as we head into Super Bowl weekend? Always a pleasure. Can't wait for Los Angeles next year. 364 days to the next hockey trial. That's right. We thank you all enough. Team on me, team on three. We'll see on Overreaction Monday who's going to be the world champion. We find out on Sunday.

3:40:56Puka Nacua:One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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