PMS 2.0 1502 - The Seattle Seahawks Win Super Bowl LX, Adam Schefter, Seahawks Punter Michael Dickson, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

14:21AQ Shipley:Oh, well, I said I liked it. I said I loved it. Killed it. And boy, people hated that. That's not real. Those people aren't real.

14:28Pat McAfee:Those people aren't real. They can't be. Honestly, there's going to be 100 and what million, we think?

14:33Adam Schefter:30 plus.

14:34Pat McAfee:Okay, so, I mean, we've experienced this at a much smaller level. Much, much, much, much. Much smaller level. The more people that see you, like, the more people that are going to hate you. Like more people see you, more people like you. Hopefully that's kind of the business. More people are like, hey, I kind of, that's kind of my shit. Or people are like, I hate this person. And there's people that get hate views, obviously, and they love that. And then there's just people that just like hate people, the more people that are there. I think there's going to be a group of people that hate that, you know, no matter what, I will say Lady Gaga, did not expect to see her pop up out of nowhere.

15:06Pat McAfee:Pop up out of nowhere, kind of seemingly, the human trees, smart idea. Sweet. Could you imagine trying to move all those trees? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, right. That was the only way to do it. Only way to do it is we need humans to be in trees. Hey, you guys got to rehearse. You got to do it because we need you in. We need you out. We don't have time to be stacked. Who's grabbing trees? We don't have time to do that. Need you to be able to move? Because I thought maybe there was going to be something with the trees at some point because the humans were in there. But instead, it was like, no, just move in sets.

15:32Pat McAfee:That's the only way we can really do this. How many of them are? 1 ,400. Yeah, 2 ,000. However, 10 ,000. We're just going to go ahead and do that. Smart, once again.

15:38AQ Shipley:Oh, yeah.

15:38Pat McAfee:Because it felt like he was in different sets. It really did feel like he was in different sets. And then how about we talk about the pregame?

15:45AQ Shipley:You got to talk about the ball security. Great ball security. Good spike. Time tight, yeah. Yeah, great spike. Better spike than I expected.

15:51Pat McAfee:Thought that was going to be a lot of elbow. He's an athlete. Elbow with wrist. Instead, no, actual spike. I was pretty impressed by that. Let's go pregame. Flyover was sick. Unbelievable. Flyover was absolutely sick. I thought that was coming from the clouds. You know, the handheld. This guy got great shot, guy or girl. I don't know who it is, doing the handheld, you know, the operator. I think they cut him a little bit. Not going to judge too hard, but unbelievable stuff as you get them coming out of the clouds. Right back to Charlie Puth, who's incredibly talented, with then the sole fighter coming after.

16:24Pat McAfee:I mean, it was a beautiful little series there to kind of set the entire stage. Shout out to the fans. Normally, super corporate event. You know, usually like super duper. This is an incredible shot, too. Hey, boys. Yep. How you doing? We just did that shit. We couldn't see it, but we know it probably looked awesome. I just think they did a good job. I think the show was done well. And then, you know, halftime, going to get talked about, end of game. Tirico transitioning. Oh, yeah, Chris Pratt, Jon Bon Jovi. Great job, boys. Hey, Jon Bon Jovi did have a little note in there. Oh, yeah. You know, and then Chris Pratt just said, let me go ahead and just hammer this.

17:01Pat McAfee:You know what we're here for. Let's go ahead and get after it. I respect that and appreciate that. I thought it was a good game. Lacked star power, lacked explosives for a while, but I just think all of it did feel big as it was going on.

17:12Adam Schefter:Yeah, and to your point, you could kind of hear it.

17:14Pat McAfee:Commercial's kind of ass. So what's going on with... So they're finding dogs? Apparently. I mean... What's going on? Is this the Batman basement? You know, where he walks in there and it's like... Alfred, yeah. That's basically what they're like. Hey, everybody, happy you're all here. let us explain to you what's been going on here.

17:35Darius Butler:Is that one of those things that you sign in the agreement that no one's reading? You scroll to the bottom and click. Yeah, you could use my camera for whatever you want, probably.

17:42Pat McAfee:It's fascinating because obviously, you know, people go door to door whenever they're looking for footage. Dateline. Dateline, you watch these detectives go, can we get this camera from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A commercial told me, I don't know if I saw it properly, told me, it's like, hey, listen, you just tell us what you need. Yep. Nobody likes losing a dog. What? Kind of. I think that's what it said. No, they're finding dogs. Families are happy. I mean, there is certainly... These dogs are back with their family.

18:15Darius Butler:They're tapping into every ring camera they can. Just wait, you'll see it.

18:18Pat McAfee:Boom, boom, boom. That's the Batman thing. That's the Batman basement. At least now they picked that to say, yeah.

18:25Darius Butler:The girl was happy. Okay, so I guess that's good.

18:28Pat McAfee:This was a takeaway for me. I will say this was one takeaway from me. Oh, Foxy just said. And that's no BS, baby.

18:37Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah.

18:38Pat McAfee:Hey, coach. Way to go, B.A. I like that. Good idea, too. Encourage me. I got influenced by it. I'm like, yeah, actually, I am going to check because it feels like it's something that is affecting a lot of us a lot younger than any of us could imagine. And also in our direct group, it's like, hey, this is a very real thing. Shout out to B.A. doing his acting gig. And seemingly nailing it. Even like Serene, you know, when he looked over in the seat, I'm like, B.A., that's no B.S., baby, for a good cause and getting a chance.

19:04Adam Schefter:Duncan brought it as well towards the end there. They just played the nostalgia track and just hit all those bases with Ben Affleck being a goodwill Duncan, I believe was the name. And they brought out, you know, the old Friends crew. Yeah, I hear it is. Joey Tribbiani. I believe Family Matters. A couple of those people as well. Steve Urkel. Yeah, there is Steve Urkel. This one, I thought, also fantastic. Duncan typically does, though, bring the heat. The other one was the Mr. Beast million-dollar giveaway thing. Yeah, puzzle. I thought that was really cool, and they're still doing that. I think he tweeted that nobody has solved the puzzle or whatever.

19:37Pat McAfee:I think I missed that in real time. I saw him walk, and then I think I missed the puzzle in real time. Can we figure that out? What type of puzzle is it?

19:43Adam Schefter:I think there's four videos out right now, and you just watch each video, and there's something wrong with each video, and that's how you kind of decipher the code, and then you send it to him on Slack or something in order to submit your answer to win the million dollars. I'll tell you what, Mr. Beast has got it. Hey, we got this.

19:59Pat McAfee:We got Slack. We got this. Go ahead and do that. Go ahead and pull from here. Let me go from this. Salesforce. How you doing? Let's go ahead and get this thing operated. If we pull it off, though, it should be pretty big. Congrats, Mr. Beast. Yeah. This guy, since he's like a teenager, this dude right here, since he's like a teenager, one of these super-duper thinkers. Yeah, was the streaker a part of it was my question. So, Streaker is pretty jocked, man. Yeah, pretty jocked, man. I guess he's the owner of the company that he was marketing on his chest and back. So, kind of a little, obviously, I appreciate the fact that Tirico said, a real rocket scientist piece is basically what he wanted to say, but he's Tirico is streaking out here.

20:38Pat McAfee:And that is certainly true. And Williams chasing him down and potentially hitting him with one A's, I think was certainly fascinating. because as players and coaches, and I know this is never really the thought because it's always like, ah, and then the security people kind of get there and it's like a part of a game. For some players and coaches, you know, I'm not saying where they came from, but some situations where people are just sprinting at them that they're definitely not supposed to be, there are some uncomfortable feelings by people, especially on a football field. So we've seen situations in the past where players or coaches have been like, absolutely not.

21:09Pat McAfee:You have no idea if there's a knife. You have no idea. What's the messaging? You literally have no idea. in the world that we're in. So I think that is why Williams immediately was like, I've been planning for this day. Yeah. You know? Like, who knows who this person is? So that seemingly jacked man. Hit him with an okey-doke. Yeah, pretty good run. Kind of went down. Allegedly his own company. I mean, filming it on his Oakley Meadows. Okay, so he's going to have the shot and probably break down why he chose to juke this particular out-of-shape looking one as opposed to going at this one. So pretty good little football game.

21:43Pat McAfee:You ever been part of a game? with a streaker? Have I ever been a part of a game with a streaker? Did you have one in your Super Bowl? No. I don't think so. Have you?

21:51AQ Shipley:No, I don't think so either.

21:52Pat McAfee:I think we would remember, right?

21:54AQ Shipley:Squirrel. Yeah, he does. Had a couple of those. MetLife seemingly

21:58Pat McAfee:had like a black cat too, I think.

21:59AQ Shipley:Oh, I don't remember that one. Multiple times. I think, right? For the rats, yeah.

22:06Pat McAfee:Yeah, so I think I had black cat scored a touchdown in MetLife I was there for. Pretty good. Everybody just standing there literally like, go on. He's at that 10. Okay, sick. Squirrel, I think I've been a part of a squirrel. Never a streaker, though. There was one that had a smoke. Yeah, against the Rams. San Francisco.

22:24AQ Shipley:What's that? Pink smoke? Yeah, a few years ago. Was it Bobby Wagner that got him?

22:29Adam Schefter:Yeah, it was Bill's Rams season opener.

22:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, but so I think that the reason why Tariko talks the way he does about it and other people are just like, yeah, this is a streaker. It's like, you have no idea.

22:38AQ Shipley:No idea.

22:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, and now granted, did they get checked coming in? You assume, but people got interesting ways of doing stuff. That's right. And people are willing to do stuff. It's like, never can be too safe. And I would like to reiterate the fact, San Francisco was good to us out there. Had a lot of people start talking about that whole thing.

22:55AQ Shipley:It's the same thing. Yeah, it is.

22:57Pat McAfee:A lot of people talk about that whole thing. Hey, it's a nice city. We've been walking around here miles. A lot. People are talking. I had a lot of people, I believe, representing the right wing of the political sphere. quote tweeting our video saying oh isn't that nice mr private plane guy who gets security into his hotel that is a five-star thing and then gets driven to the backstage of a convention center yeah i bet it is nice it's like hold on now i understand that could be my life and that sounds pretty sick actually okay that sounds but i'm not there yet we walked that shit i'm in the I mean, we were all over that place.

23:38Pat McAfee:And even on the maps, it says, like, moderate incline. It's like, that's a lie. San Francisco, especially if you live in Indiana. We're putting in steps. I mean, we were all around. Now, granted, it was just our area. San Francisco, very, very wide. I assume there were shitty areas. I mean, it is a city. I think that kind of happens in most cities. I think we even have some areas that are, like, not great. But the part we were at was very nice. And then, you know, there were some people that immediately attacked me for saying it was nice. Because, oh, this guy's been brainwashed by the right. This guy thinks San Francisco is like.

24:06Pat McAfee:You think that that is what everything we had heard coming out, including what the mayor had to say of like three years ago, four years ago, it was like that city was down and out. And we would like to say from our experience, seemingly very – we were not there when it was down and out. Nope. No. We were not there when it was down and out. We were just there this past week. Yeah. We went to Stanford. Okay, we were there. We were in San Francisco for a morning. We did a show down there. We've never really been in Dunn, San Francisco. It was nice to us. Yes, we were. So I think Super Bowl would say it was a success.

24:35AQ Shipley:People may not know when we say walk, those are like 15, 20-minute bops. Oh, yeah. Downtown and, you know, most major cities, downtown areas, you're going to have some sketchy parts, some sketchy pockets. Obviously, you know, you're going to run into some unsavory characters. But, yeah, it was – and the weather, the weather is certainly perfect. Oh, perfect. The weather was crispy, perfect. But, yeah, the city from our – it was very nice. From our perspective. Yeah, for sure.

25:03Pat McAfee:Now, there's people that say, you don't think you dipshit, they just cleaned it up because you all were coming to town. Maybe. What do you think? Maybe. They did a great job. Yeah. And if it stays this way, it'll be incredible. If it goes back to being a dump the next time we're there, guess what we'll do?

25:15Adam Schefter:We'll say it. We'll tell you.

25:16Pat McAfee:That's right. Was actually planning on leading off the show, if it was, saying, this place is a shithole. Yeah. Was planning on it. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Can't wait to have to tell the truth about San Francisco if it is not great because we're getting reports from people. I don't want to say both political parties, but center and one side telling us directly not great and then a little bit on this side saying it used to be very think it's better. It's like, okay, so we had no idea what to do. Excited to tell the truth about it. That's what I think this whole shit's for. Yeah, it was great to us.

25:49Pat McAfee:Phenomenal. The mayor had a little jumper. One at East, which I appreciate. I guess Steph Curry's been in the area. Yeah, certainly. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone. Tone, when it comes to the gombling, when it comes to what happened last night, obviously under hits, which is not good for the public, I would assume, because the public loves overs to hitting that entire thing. And then Seattle Seahawks cover with ease. And they were the 71 % of the public bet at one point, then down to 60-some percent. They were the odds-on favorite and also the public favorite this entire time.

26:25Pat McAfee:How do you think the sportsbooks did? And how did most people do throughout this season? Did we get our asses beat this year by the sports folks, or how do we kind of feel?

26:32Darius Butler:I'll start right there because it has been a long season, so we tend to forget things. The public got their asses beat this year. When we were going through the season, and we did this every Monday or Tuesday, I think there was like two or three winning weekends, but the playoffs got better. And then obviously in the Super Bowl, things got better for the public if you were on the Seahawks, which majority was. It started at 75%. By the time we got off the air on Friday, it was down to like 65%. 65%. I think it ended somewhere around there. So the public won on the Seahawks side. Obviously, they got the money line.

27:02Darius Butler:They got the cover there. The under, which was a dead nuts under the whole game, almost went over. If Kenneth Walker's touchdown did not get called back there. So they got the under there. Then obviously, if you took anything on the defensive side for Seattle, whether it be interception or sacks or whatever, touchdown, all of those hits. The only – I went 3-1 first quarter under. Drake May over passing yards. A.J. Barner under a half yard. And then I lost Sam Darnold over his passing yards because he didn't really have to throw. Obviously, first touchdown of the game was another one. Another, if you didn't see it on the show.

27:40Darius Butler:Sports Rage had A.J. Barner first touchdown. That hit again. I would say it was a good night for the books because, you know, JSN got hurt. He was out a bunch. Rondae Stevenson did get the touchdown but didn't go over his numbers. I would say good night for the books in general.

27:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, I will say anytime an under hits in a big-time game, you know, that's going to be good for the books. And that felt like a lock early, but then they almost caught it. Almost caught it. That fourth quarter Drake made. Does that give you hope? Okay, because this is kind of my takeaway. There was a sentiment like, hey, playoffs come Drake made in, play good. We were on the side of like those tough situations. You got the one defense, and then somehow again the number one defense. And then, oh, yeah, a better number one defense. So, like, he did hit, like, a murderer's row of defenses in the playoffs.

28:26Pat McAfee:But I think you're going to. Like, that's kind of what it's going to be. So, some people maybe say, big moment, big bright lights, North Carolina never really had to play in those types of games. He can't do it. I don't think that's the case. I would like to argue that I think it is a 23-year-old quarterback who hasn't seen a lot of defenses that he can pull from, and then he's getting tasked with taking on maybe the best defense in the league, maybe the best defense in the league, maybe the best defense ever, whenever it's all said and done, depending upon how their little dynasty, not little, sorry, how this potential dynasty goes with McDonald in that defense up in Seattle right now.

29:02Pat McAfee:MLB, dark side, yeah. Mission over bullshit, dark side. We're hanging helmets in the corner there. I think Drake potentially rattled, definitely quick, overthrowing a little bit. not by the moment but by like a little bit of intimidation potentially by he doesn't know what the hell is going on remember and i don't want to tie this back sam donald because he just won a super bowl but it's rude but there was a point in sam donald's career where he's i'm seeing ghosts okay and that's i don't think he's the only quarterback that's ever thought that and that can certainly affect you him through this playoffs with what he's had to deal with defensively and then in a super bowl with what he's had had to deal with with the seahawks without a lot of good protection but him also being pretty reckless with it all what is your kind of thoughts on Drake May as a whole as we go into next year.

29:44Pat McAfee:Is he made man at this point in your eyes?

29:46AQ Shipley:No, definitely not a made man. He had a great second year, almost won the MVP, but he still has, I think, really good pieces around him. And why I had so much confidence in him going into this game was because Josh McDaniels has still been there. And then Mike Vrabel has still been a great head coach. So he has good pieces around him. This will be a learning experience for him, for sure. We saw a little mic'd up on the sideline in the weather against the Broncos in the NFC Championship, where he's like, hey, man, this is hard. And once you get to the playoffs and you play these teams, you're playing the best of the best.

30:17AQ Shipley:You're talking about Denver, most sacks. You're talking about Houston, historically great. And then you get Seattle. And on the offensive side with the Seattle Seahawks, didn't turn the ball over this whole playoff run. So with that defense, you're almost never going to beat them. But, yeah, with no protection. And then when he did have opportunities to hit some throws, throws that he hit all year, he didn't. He missed some layups. And that's just part of it. He didn't play his best ball. He'll learn from it, I think. I think he'll probably use his legs a little more in these situations, not only just from him, but from the coaching standpoint as well.

30:47AQ Shipley:But this team, this defense, like we talked about Snyder earlier, just studs on every level. And then their head coach, Mike McDonald, he's unbelievable when it comes to dialing it up.

30:56Adam Schefter:Yeah, and to your point, like the good pieces, you mentioned coaches. They need good pieces on the outside and the inside where it's like, hey, it doesn't matter what they're in. We're just going to throw it here and they're going to be open. He's going to have a chance. Like there was never a point. Stephon Diggs was their number one this year. He had his worst game yesterday, and that was shocking. It felt like to everybody. And I don't know what the plan was going into it, but it felt like at some point they had to either scrap it or go a different way, and they just could never get anything going no matter what.

31:24AQ Shipley:They couldn't run the ball.

31:24Adam Schefter:What's that? They couldn't run the ball.

31:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, Seahawks were just so good. It was great. I mean, McDonald came out and said, if you can stop the run with split safeties back there, you're in a good spot.

31:33AQ Shipley:Yep. What does that mean? So it basically means you don't have to put eight in the box. You hear that term a lot, eight men in the box, and that basically means you go from a two-high safety look and then you go to a single-high safety look, which means you bring one of those safeties from the deep part of the field, and now they have to get down there closer to the line of scrimmage to stop the run game. But when you can just stay in that quarters-type two-high defense, first of all, for the quarterback, it confuses a lot more things coverage-wise because when you are single high, you're one-on-one on the outside, you know you're one-on-one.

32:01AQ Shipley:But when you have those two safeties, you can just trust your front seven to stop that run, and they did, and you put them in a situation where they have to drop back and pass the ball, it's going to be tough sledding.

32:10Pat McAfee:That second pick, I think Drake, middle of it, was like, oh, shit. I think that was – I didn't expect – there was four guys there. Yes. You know, and that's because the second where he threw it in – Touchdown? He had a Matt Collins throw that was a completion. Right before the touchdown. It was filthy. Unbelievable. Then the drop of the bucket. But then there was one he threw in a double coverage with the two crossers right in the middle of the field.

32:31Adam Schefter:To end the game, basically, yeah, right here.

32:32Pat McAfee:Right here. I think he was in the middle of that and go, oh, no. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, because they show a close-up of his face whenever he throws it. And I legitimately think he goes, oh, no, as he's throwing that because there's so many people back there because there's nobody up. There's more people in coverage. And that's what the Eagles were able to do last year when they dominated the Chiefs. And now the Seahawks just did the same damn thing against the Patriots. I have not lost faith in Drake May. I think all these things are him to learn from. Okay, light box means probably there has to be humans somewhere.

32:59Pat McAfee:If he's not here, he's probably here. All these things are good for Drake, even though in the moment it had to suck. and he got choked up last night afterwards. And you could see, just by the way he was sitting, and his build and his face, it's like, this guy's so young. Oh, yeah. This guy is just so damn young out there.

33:14Darius Butler:You know what was a huge difference, and I did not see this coming? Sam Darnold had a lot of pressure, too. Milton Williams was just dominating their right guard. Sam was unbelievable in the pocket of getting out of the pressure and missing and avoiding and then making plays. And Drake was not in that sense last night. He sat there a lot, took sacks where maybe he could have run or whatever. But I think a big difference was that Sam was so good at avoiding those sacks, and Drake was not that bad. Sam was running one to the right and cut up. Yeah, yeah.

33:39Pat McAfee:I was like, ooh, Sam Darnold. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior NFL insider for ESPN. Shout out to ESPN, by the way. Hosting the next Super Bowl should be an absolute blast. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yay, Schefter. Oh, you're going to Augusta. Good to see you.

33:56AJ Hawk:I'm still in the green room. Am I allowed to leave here Friday? I got here 9 a.m. Friday morning. I'm waiting to leave here. I haven't gotten your clearance yet. Am I allowed to go yet or not?

34:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, what all happened, so I do apologize. I wanted you to join us live so that we could thank you for the season that was. You showed up for us every time we needed you, and then one thing led to another. People got stacked. I heard you were back there potentially holding court a little bit. Heard you met some people and everything like that. And then whenever I go back for the next break, I'm like, is Shefty here or there? No, he had to leave. I'm like, got it, got it, got it. We apologize there for that.

34:27AJ Hawk:I want to let you know that. All good. All good. All good. I just left there five minutes ago. So it's time to get your flight home. All right, yeah, I understand. I understand.

34:35Pat McAfee:I get it, too. We knew there was going to be a little something, as there should have been. Okay, let's chit-chat a little bit about said Super Bowl, and then we'll move to off-season storylines because Max Crosby's going to be a huge part of that entire thing. A big storyline coming out of last night is that the Seattle Seahawks defense might be legendary yet again, that the Patriots are potentially in a spot where they're going to be okay. What are your thoughts? What are you hearing around Super Bowl 10 about how the game actually went last night?

35:04AJ Hawk:Well, I think the Seahawks defense cemented itself as one of the great defenses of all time. I still like the Bears and the Ravens all-time defenses, but this Seahawks defense last night, they got so much pressure on Drake May. To me, they go down with the Denver Broncos team that won in 2015. They go down with the Legion of Boom team that won a Super Bowl and almost won two. They're in that upper echelon of defenses. They gave New England nothing last night. But to me, the story of this postseason and this Super Bowl, people always remember it as the time in which Sam Darnold overcame everything that he did to go from seeing ghosts in New York to seeing his reflection in the Vince Lombardi trophy to bouncing around the league from New York to Carolina to San Francisco to Minnesota to finally winning a Super Bowl in Seattle.

35:51AJ Hawk:Five teams, nobody's ever done that before, starting and winning. And it's just an amazing journey to get to where he wound up. And he's deserving of it. He obviously played a great postseason. He did not have a turnover all postseason long, which during the season, they were second in the league, second in the league, most turnovers behind only Minnesota. And then they play clean, flawless football in the postseason. Sam Donald did a tremendous job. And I think people always remember that. It's amazing. he's in that draft class 2018 that produced baker mayfield and josh allen and lamar jackson and he's the first quarterback in that draft class to win the super bowl and him and josh allen are very very close and as much as josh allen would love to reach and win a super bowl i'm sure he's incredibly happy for his good friend sam donald for winning super bowl 60

36:44Pat McAfee:last night yeah and people are going to hold sam donald over josh allen's head for the rest of his career until he wins a Super Bowl with how this whole thing has gone and how we judge postseasons. Lamar as well and Baker. Congrats to Sam on that. Feels like he's a perfect fit for McDonald in Seattle. Let's talk about McDonald. When he got hired to Seattle, I think we expected him to get a head coaching job, but we didn't know much about him. He wasn't at Baltimore for long. I think he was in college before that becomes a DC over there. Crush. I think he starts slow. I think it wasn't good early, like maybe very, very bad early.

37:14Pat McAfee:Then he figures it out quickly, turns Baltimore into this defense that we remember from the Baltimore Ravens, gets a head coaching job. We all just assume it's going to take place, but because he's a defensive guy, we don't know much about him. He's certainly unique, I think, whatever he talks, how he talks, how he acts, but his team is unbelievable. Can you tell me a little bit about McDonald and why everybody knew he was going to be a good head coach and kind of where he thinks he's headed?

37:38AJ Hawk:First of all, you're talking about a very cerebral guy, really intelligent, really soft-spoken, really quiet. And really a really good guy. And I don't know that there's been a head coach this successful. He's the third youngest coach in history to win a Super Bowl, joining Mike Tomlin and Sean McVay, which is the kind of company that he's now keeping to win that Super Bowl. And when he was coming out, he interviewed in a bunch of places. He interviewed in Carolina. He interviewed in Washington. Seattle was one of his last interviews. And the interesting thing was the Washington commanders had a high level of interest in hiring him.

38:18AJ Hawk:And his wife, Stephanie, was a cheerleader for the Washington football team. And Stephanie's family is from that area. So you would have thought, no brainer, wife's from the Washington area, wife worked for the Washington football team. Like, that's where he's going. and even when he was out in seattle visiting the commanders got him on the phone and made one last ditch effort to try to get him to come back to washington from seattle washington where he's visiting but in the end the amazing part about it was to me he chose to take his wife and move across the country and seattle was my very first job out of college like it's a great city it's a beautiful city it is a far away city like you can get to europe quicker than you can get to seattle and mike went there because the main reason was he believed in the general manager john schneider he just trusted and believed in him felt like that was the right guy for him and john schneider rewarded his efforts because if you look at what they've done they trade russell wilson that trade that nets them amongst other things in that trade.

39:30AJ Hawk:Charles Cross, Boye, Mafé, Devin Witherspoon, all the players that they got in that Russell Wilson trade. And so to me, Russell Wilson helped Seattle win its first Super Bowl and Russell Wilson helped Seattle win its second Super Bowl yesterday. And John Schneider pushed all the right buttons. If we go back to last off season two, they wanted to keep Geno Smith. They wanted to keep him. Geno was the one who wanted out. And when Gino wanted out, well, then they traded him to the Raiders and pivoted to Sam Darnold, another great John Schneider move. So Mike McDonald goes to Seattle because of John Schneider.

40:06AJ Hawk:John Schneider rewards him for his commitment. And now together, they won a Super Bowl together last night in San Francisco.

40:15Pat McAfee:That's a hell of a play by John Schneider. All the decisions he made pissed a lot of people off throughout all of it. You know, moving on from Gina, moving on from Pete, moving on from DK, moving on from Ty, moving on from a lot of people. I mean, even go back, I guess, whenever he moved on from the Legion of Boom and built on with Russell Wilson. He's made a lot of decisions where he has taken a lot of shots to the shins. So for him to get to the point where he's the only guy ever to win multiple Super Bowls in the same organization with a completely different team and head coach. it's like the amount of fires that he had to be in, especially in the world that we're in right now where everybody wants everybody's ass.

40:52Pat McAfee:If it isn't a Super Bowl, it isn't a Super Bowl, it isn't a Super Bowl. So for him to get a chance to feel the confetti again, I assume was pretty gratifying. I assume there was some real moments of fulfillment there for Schneider, Shefty, I would assume.

41:06AJ Hawk:And listen, when you win a Super Bowl like that, usually it's because your owners are great, usually because your GM is making the right calls, usually because your head coach is a stud and your quarterback is really good. Like, those are the starting building blocks. Now, Seattle had an exceptional defense, and that was the key to the win last night. But John Schneider did make all the right moves from hiring Mike McDonald, luring him away from Washington, which wanted to hire him, and then going out and making the move at quarterback. Like, that's a dramatic move last year at the quarterback position.

41:39AJ Hawk:And again, I don't think that was plan A. That was probably plan B, but it was a great plan B, and it worked out as well as it could have for John Schneider. And all the moves that they made, that defense is just fast, strong, built to last. Now, here's the other thing. They've got some major decisions to make this offseason because they're going to have Jackson Smith and Jigba eligible for a new deal for the first time. He's going to want a new contract. Devin Witherspoon is eligible for a new deal for the first time. he's going to want a new contract. You're going to have those issues at a time where you have other free agents, players whose contracts are up like Kenneth Walker with Zach Charbonnet out with a torn ACL.

42:22AJ Hawk:So they have to solidify that backfield. And Clint Kubiak is taking the head coaching job with the Raiders. So now you've got to have a third different offensive coordinator in three years.

42:31Adam Schefter:On that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, is there any idea who the next OC of the Seahawks will be? I mean, I know, you know, the game just ended last night, but is Kubiak going to take a lot of that offensive staff with him to Las Vegas? Is there any kind of name that you can think of, or what's that process going to be like naming a new offensive coordinator?

42:50AJ Hawk:Yeah, they have on their staff a quarterback's coach by the name of Andrew Janacco, and I think Andrew Janacco is going to be an offensive coordinator, whether that's with Clint Kubiak in Las Vegas or whether he stays on in Seattle to become an assistant. Michael Byrne spent the 2024 season with Kubiak in New Orleans. I would imagine he might go. The run game coordinator, Rick Dennison, and run game specialist, Justin Otten. They have a history with Kubiak. Look, I don't know exactly how it's going to break down and how it'll work out, but he's going to take a couple people with him, I'm sure.

43:26AJ Hawk:And there's going to be a little bit of discussions who stays and who goes. And he's going to have to build a staff, and Seattle's going to have to rebuild its offensive staff.

43:35Pat McAfee:We assume they'll be able to do it, man. I just assume they'll be able to do it. I'm going to now, and Seattle Seahawks fans are going to say it's about time. I'm just going to assume they're making the right decisions up there. And I know they have felt that way, but I am going to assume that the Seattle Seahawks are making the right decisions until I'm proven that that is not the case. But being able to just flip an entire culture, paint over some of the walls. Hey, we've got to do a whole new chapter. Very rarely works. That's why what we're seeing in New England, awesome, no matter how this kind of goes.

44:02Pat McAfee:And definitely now Seattle Super Bowl champions yet again with an entirely new roster, a whole new locker room, a whole new building, one GM, and an owner who's an absolute beast. I think Jody is a monster. I think she is a great owner. Congrats on them all. And their fan base continuing to be in primetime is good for ball as a whole. So I'm pumped for them. Let's move. Go ahead.

44:23AJ Hawk:Well, one other thing, though. Before, I think my colleagues at ESPN reported they would be for sale and that they could fetch a record price. I think they estimated$7 billion. I had somebody in NFL ownership tell me that they think the Seahawks can get$10 billion, which will become the highest-priced-paying world of it. $10 billion. Billion.

44:45Pat McAfee:It'll probably be more than that, too, because Seattle certainly has all that money up there. There's a lot of NorCal area. A lot of people probably want that. That's good. Multiple people that have a shit ton of money are potentially going to want it. they wins the Super Bowl. Hey, congrats, Jody Allen. Congratulations, if that is the case. Let's move to some other storylines that are going to obviously take up some of the offseason. Go ahead, Conme.

45:10Adam Schefter:Yeah, real quick. Seattle not favored to win the division next year. Something to think about as far as how far up they are. But, Shefty, news that we kind of were reading today. Max Crosby told Tom Brady, hey, I'm never going to play for the Raiders again. Is that real? And then also – Jason LaConfor, I believe. Okay, LaConfor is the one who reported that, that they had a conversation. Is Max Crosby forcing his way out? Is he most likely done in Vegas, or is this possibly just the first iteration of the Miles Garrett type thing where he gets a new deal and gets paid a bunch of money?

45:42AJ Hawk:Well, look, I think Max isn't overly thrilled to be there right now. I don't know exactly what he did or didn't say to Tom Brady. I think there's a feeling around the league that he would like to be traded, and then the question becomes, is he actually traded? The Raiders prefer not to trade him. Now, it depends how dug in and how headstrong Max is here in this particular situation. They just signed him to a contract extension a year ago. Mark Davis always has loved Max Crosby. They've got a new head coach coming in, and Clint Kubiak. They're going to have the number one overall pick in the draft.

46:12AJ Hawk:Fernando Mendoza is going to be a Raider. They have$90 million in cap space. And it could be that Max has grown so disenchanted with being there that he absolutely wants to move on. But I think that there may be a window to sit him down and say, look, you can be a big part of this turnaround here. And I know that they've already done it three times. I got it. I know that they would prefer not to trade him. And I know that that if they're even going to listen and I'm sure they probably will wind up listening. I was told it would take a Micah Parsons type package to even consider dealing Max Crosby.

46:53AJ Hawk:Now, is somebody going to give up all that the Cowboys gave up from Micah Parsons? I don't know. We'll see. But I think with these situations, he may want out of there and they may be open to listening to it, but there's still some steps that have to unfold here before we know exactly how this will play out.

47:08Pat McAfee:How far into the future, because the NBA trades like 20, 35 first round picks. How far into the future are the NFL teams allowed to do that?

47:15AJ Hawk:It's funny you say that. Right now, teams are not allowed to trade draft picks beyond three years. You can only trade up to three years. Wow. Hey, where'd you go?

47:29Pat McAfee:Did you have to open a safe in your brain there to find that information? Like, what happened there? You were trying to find that one. You didn't expect that question.

47:36AJ Hawk:No, I didn't. But the funny thing is I had a conversation with somebody about that this week. And I'm going to tell you right now, there are going to be people in the NFL this offseason that push to have that limit grown to five years.

47:52Pat McAfee:Yeah. So they're going to try to.

47:54AJ Hawk:Well, 20.

47:55Pat McAfee:The NBA, I think you're going to trade 2075 if you want.

47:59AJ Hawk:You know what? Right now it's three years in the NFL and this has not been out there at all. So you can put it on your bottom line. there's going to be a push by at least one team this offseason to extend the NFL trade limits from three years of picks to five years of picks.

48:16Pat McAfee:We like that team. Okay. Love it. We like that team sacrificing the future for the good of now. That's right. You know, we'll deal with that later. We can get those things back if we need to. You need us to be ass? We'll pick up some more of these picks if we have to. Don't you worry about that business. I love that action. I love that movement. Now, that's coming from a team that gave away two number ones for Sauce Guard. Hey, Sauce, excited for you to be back next year. Excited for you to be back next year. But I was trying to think in my head about Max Crosby. Okay, so we just need to give 20, 30, 12, 31.

48:44Pat McAfee:That's what we need, just go and give those. But I guess it's not a lot to do that. It might be Ballard who's pushing it. Ballard could be. You think I should be allowed not to trade all these teams? It's not. What's that?

48:54AJ Hawk:It's not. I mean, he might vote for it. But teams, you have to vote on that. But the proposal will not come from the Colts.

49:03Pat McAfee:Well, they need to co-sign that thing. because we don't got a lot in the next three years. We don't have anything. We don't have anything but sauce and our team going to Super Bowl. And I saw Daniel Jones with Fernando Mendoza. That was cool. And he was tweeted. He said, Indiana quarterbacks. I was like, okay, so we signed him. That's great news. What's his deal worth? I'm excited. I'm very excited for that. You know, we would certainly be pumped up about that. Okay, let's move to some other storylines, shall we? Speaking of quarterbacks, go ahead, Tone.

49:29Darius Butler:Yeah, Shafty, speaking of veteran quarterbacks, Let's talk about Kirk Cousins, who is rumored to be released and then be able to be a free agent and go wherever he wants. And then Aaron Rodgers. There was also a report about Aaron Rodgers this weekend that he loved his time in Pittsburgh, and the teammates loved him. They spoke about him glowingly in the exit interviews. I heard that as well. What's the latest on Aaron Rodgers? And then also the Vikings potentially bringing in a vet to compete with JJ. Could that be Kirk? What's the latest on all that?

49:59AJ Hawk:well when when they had the exit meetings with the pittsburgh steels players almost to a man they all wanted aaron rogers back and the one thing that was conveyed to me was how much respect and love there was from other teammates about aaron rogers and how much they wanted him back and the idea at that point in time was to give him about a month give him some time to think about things process things and in that time they go and hire mike mccarthy now they didn't hire mike McCarthy to bring back Aaron Rodgers but I don't think that hurts the situation at all if anything it helps it and so obviously Aaron Rodgers has to decide what he wants to do but I think the Pittsburgh Steelers absolutely would love to have him back and would welcome him back Kirk Cousins he's expected to be released they restructured his contract with the idea that he's going to be released he'll be released before the new league year begins I think he'd like to play but he's going to consider all his options that could include TV that could include retirement business Whatever it is that he wants to do, he'll have the option to doing it, but the Falcons will release him before the start of the new league year, so that'll be an option for him.

51:02AJ Hawk:And you bring up Minnesota. Yeah, well, Minnesota's always going to bring in a quarterback. Obviously, they have to do that anyway. The question is, who's that going to be? I asked Kirk about Minnesota last week, and I didn't get a no, but I didn't get a yes. It's possible, but there's a lot of things out there that are possible with him.

51:20Pat McAfee:He's got that older couple, body gurus. in Minnesota. Good fires. Remember, we watched quarterback with him up there in Minnesota. He seemed to really enjoy his life. Maybe he goes back and says, listen, I was never supposed to leave, but they gave me 80-some million dollars guaranteed. Sorry about it. How have you guys been? Sam Darnold, yeah, I watched that. That was crazy. He's a Super Bowl champion. Hopefully we are. There's a chance that all that happens. We shall see. Okay, and now, because we are on this Super Overreaction Monday, all eyes are on the next football season. Off-season storylines in abundance.

51:54Pat McAfee:Who is going to get to the top of Lombardi Mountain? Can anybody beat the Seattle Seahawks? Those are all storylines that are developing. But what's happening on this day, D-Butch? What's happening on this? Yes, we do.

52:12Which way are we going? Yep.

52:17Pat McAfee:Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day! Happy handoff day. Happy handoff day. Hey, that was a good handoff.

52:25AQ Shipley:Good cadence. Nobody jump. We good. That was good. Perfect. Good handoff. Good arm movement.

52:30Pat McAfee:Good cards. Yeah, it's just like was happy handoff day. Happy handoff day. Happy handoff day.

52:35AQ Shipley:Happy handoff day, boys. Hold on, Shefty.

52:39Pat McAfee:Hold on. We're leading this one, not you. You got all your talking points. We're doing journalism around here on handoff day.

52:45AQ Shipley:Is there, I know it's a long ways away, and obviously 32 teams want to be there, But is there any plans that ESPN has that you maybe want to break that we can look forward to in L.A. next year? Maybe you already know the halftime performer. Anything you want to break, Shefty? Come on, Shefty.

52:59AJ Hawk:Well, I've seen the NFL script for next season. It's a doozy. And wait till you see the Super Bowl matchup next year in Los Angeles. I mean, I couldn't believe when I read the script. I couldn't believe the script, the halftime performance, everything. It's really incredible. So it's going to be a magical year ahead on ESPN and ABC. And the handoff, you carried that ball better than Bad Bunny there, Pat. That was good ball security.

53:20Pat McAfee:I would like to say San Benito actually had bueno ball security. I would say. I would say he had good ball security. So that was a nothing right there.

53:29Adam Schefter:That was a nothing. Come on, Adam. Shefty football.

53:31Pat McAfee:Shefty feeding conspiracies, this guy.

53:36AJ Hawk:Listen, I'm in L.A. right now. I'm in L.A. right now. And all I know is the Super Bowl is on February 14th next year, day before President's Day. I think that's the latest the Super Bowl has ever been played. Yep. I said to the people this morning, we're here in L.A. We flew in yesterday to get up here this morning, be part of the handoff. And we might as well just take up residence in L.A. because this is going to be a huge event for the network. It's going to be a lot of people spending a lot of time here over the next year. A lot.

54:00Pat McAfee:Okay, that sounds good. Sounds like a blast. I don't think we knew, did we? About the handoff?

54:06Darius Butler:I did not. I heard about it on Friday. Yeah, me too. We learned about this.

54:09Pat McAfee:We were talking to some of the people from the ESPN NFL crew. Yeah, we're on the ground. I was like, that's sick that we're on the ground. What the hell are we talking about? But, like, as we were – I learned about this from an ESPN NFL on-air talent, you know, kind of multiple in a group conversation. Yeah, we're flying to L.A. for the handoff immediately after a Super Bowl.

54:27Michael Dickson:What's that? That's commitment. Excuse me. The handoff.

54:30Pat McAfee:The handoff. What's going on? Oh, we're handing off because the ESPN Super Bowl, I'm sure it's like, oh, sick. When's that happening? And then it's like, cool. And then I see that graphic. I'm like, oh, fuck. We certainly were supposed to know about that at some point. You would think that we were supposed to be told. It was cool. Scott Van Pelt was out there. Oh, yeah. I believe NFL Live was out there. Laura Swagu, Ryan Clark were out there. Late at 1230, 1231. I saw the graphics. 1231 o 'clock Eastern or something like that. Yeah, they were out there.

54:57Adam Schefter:Disneyland this morning.

54:58Pat McAfee:Yeah. Look sick. You were at NBA Today Studio, right? Forget it.

55:03AJ Hawk:Correct. Yep, that's where we were. Why weren't you at Disneyland? Hey, why didn't you go to Disneyland? You're the terror. Tired terror. I've been gone. I've been gone nine days. I want to go see my dogs and my family. I get that.

55:15Pat McAfee:Might have been why we had out here on Friday. That's on us. We appreciate you guys doing that for the good of the next year's Super Bowl. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Great season, dude. We appreciate you.

55:26AJ Hawk:Hey, I appreciate you guys having me all year long. Honestly, love being with you guys on Mondays. Always a lot of fun. And I'm just happy that I can leave the green room right now. Thank you.

55:35Pat McAfee:All right, Chef D. Ladies and gentlemen, Chef D. Hey, Chef D. Acting like he was having a terrible time back there. I heard he was. That's exact.

55:43Adam Schefter:Getting numbers, yeah. Hey, holy shit. Who would have thought? You and me here. Hey, I'm Adam Schefter. His Rolodex grew. Certainly.

55:50Pat McAfee:The more fit. Yep, there it is. I believe there was not only that. I mean, there was also.

55:53Adam Schefter:Some bigger names, I think, too.

55:55Pat McAfee:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe not in the end. Fernando Mendoza might be a goat out here. But yes, certainly others. And Bill, Bailey McComas is seeing this like, this is like a big moment for Schefter. Mm-hmm. Boom. And then all of a sudden, you look at the photos, and it's like, Schefter just had a happy hour, basically, in our green room. Yeah. A lot of handshaking. Good for him. but he did leave before we get him on a show.

56:16AQ Shipley:He was becoming a weapon behind that lens. Yeah, Bailey's good.

56:19Pat McAfee:Nah, I'm not saying it. What's that? Well, he's good, you know? Yeah. I've never seen a camera. Yeah, well, bingo. You know, I'm joking. I'm joking, Bailey, you didn't deserve that.

56:29Darius Butler:He's been taking pictures like that for years. We're just seeing him now. Yeah, I didn't know there was a connected device.

56:37Pat McAfee:All those years of stalking. He's an unbelievable cameraman, though. He's a photographer. Yeah? Yeah. Like, actually. Good editor, too. Bailey, yeah, you're kicking ass for us. Bill, we appreciate it. Everybody had a post from the Super Bowl. It was like all Bill's photos. Yeah. You're the man, Bill. And you'll walk right into a place that's really tight with that camera, too. Hey, how you doing? Hey, go ahead. Look that way.

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58:36Football is the greatest and, uh, I don't want to, uh, I don't want to do it.

58:44Pat McAfee:I know. You don't have to. I got the days if you want to know how long. Talks the table at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt. How many days until football kicks off again?

58:52Adam Schefter:Until NFL football, 213 days. Oh my God, that's so many. Holy shit. I think we're, I think we're, um, at near 200 for college. I don't know if that helps.

59:03Pat McAfee:Like two weeks until the combine, though. Okay, that's football stuff. They're wearing underwear, sprinting, running, doing their things. Everybody's there. There's free agency. There's a tampering period. There's the draft obviously happening in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. There's – Owners meetings somewhere in there. Yeah, where they're going to vote on stuff, maybe five years in future trading. Push-push again, probably. Basketball. No, don't do that. USA Baseball. Don't do that. Basketball. Yeah. UNC, Duke. Yeah. Sick. What a finish. Yeah, March Madness. Two court storms. Yes. Two court storms.

59:36Pat McAfee:The Olympics are happening. Kind of bored. Yeah. A little bit. Okay, I don't like it. Commentators as well.

59:41Darius Butler:They came out of nowhere, really.

59:43Pat McAfee:Want to have a hammer? Die. Cowboy said, I'll be odds on favorite to not know these are happening. Me too. I turn on TV. I saw something happen. I'm like, are these trials? What's going on right now? They're like, no, this is live. This is for the thing. I'm like, what a Saturday. This is a nice little addition. And all of a sudden, I see Ilya. This guy is. The back flipper? Yeah, and quads. And the quads. But I think the Japanese guy was better. I was told that nobody could touch Ilya because his point ranking, like Simone Biles, is so damn high that nobody would be able to catch him. That's a lie.

1:00:14Pat McAfee:They got a guy. He got caught? Cole in the team event. Now, we end up winning. Oh, okay. Shout out. We got a couple that's married, too, by the way. They were all sweet. That was unreal. And they're married. They've been doing this a long time, having a moment. I actually watched that last. You see the hair on the long? Awesome. Tight. So we won that. That was sick. That was awesome. The Italian lady went into speed skating. I guess she wasn't supposed to there in Italy. I saw that. That was like when I turned it on. I thought for sure we were supposed to win those things.

1:00:40Darius Butler:We won gold on the one where Lindsey Vonn crashed. We just had someone else. Breezy Johnson. Incredible name. 20 years old.

1:00:46Pat McAfee:Very crying in there. Lindsey Vonn story. Crazy. You know, that was great. Tears ACL. I'm still going to do it. Does a test run. Fast. Maybe runs. Like maybe wins the whole thing on this test run as a 41-year-old, I think. and then her run looks like a little bit of a buckle and then all of a sudden she's in a helicopter dangling above Italy.

1:01:04Darius Butler:That was crazy.

1:01:05Pat McAfee:People pay a lot of money for that. That was crazy. Not in that particular way. Good tour, though. I hope she's going to be okay. I don't know if we've got any update. I hope she's obviously an incredible athlete. But, yeah, the Olympics came out of nowhere for all of us, I think, Tone. Honestly.

1:01:19Darius Butler:I think we're still dominating curling. But, no, it's like it was –

1:01:22Pat McAfee:I saw us lose the Great Britain. Oh, shit. Yeah, it was mixed doubles. Mixed doubles, mixed doubles, and I think we ended up losing 6-4 or something like that. I might have seen another one, though.

1:01:33Darius Butler:But there was no palate cleanser between football season and the Olympics. I feel like we needed a day.

1:01:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, Tariko literally doing postgame. Yep, this is fun. Right, too. Let me tell you about what happened in Italy earlier today. With the confetti around him, crazy transition. Incredible motor out of Mike Tariko, who's obviously a stud. We are big fans of his. And Chris Collinsworth, the sixth Super Bowl last night, did his thing. That's Chris Collinsworth football there to a T last night. So him being around the game for so long. And also having to introduce himself to fans that may be – as a former NFL wide receiver, he said a couple times, I don't know if that was a resume check for people like Connor.

1:02:07Adam Schefter:I don't need a resume check. I just need him off my TV. Exactly.

1:02:11Pat McAfee:I don't know if he was saying that to Connor and other people. Or it was to the people that have never really watched and didn't know him. Like, hey, I'd like to let you know I'm a person that did this, so I was speaking for this perspective. I think it was great. But, yeah, you're right. The Olympics came out of nowhere, but I love hearing that national anthem at the end. I absolutely love it. And the team figure skaters, they got better. They started jumping, I mean, in skates, doing the whole thing. Dangerous. They live in the danger zone. Yeah, you're right. Which is why we should be excited for the next couple weeks watching Linn.

1:02:42Pat McAfee:USA Hockey. When does that start? Thursday. Yeah, boom. Thursday, USA Hockey. Women's won. Our women's already started. They're better than everybody. Good sport, it feels like. Very fast. But on that note, Darius J. Butler, nine-year NFL veteran. D-Bot, basketball going to be good for us this offseason, or do you think it's going to be NFL storylines that are going to win today? Because remember, Players' Championship coming up, we might, may, who knows. USA Baseball coming up, we might, may, you know, never know. Combine coming up, we might, may, you never know. Draft coming up, we might, may.

1:03:15Pat McAfee:There's so many things. There's so many, we won't.

1:03:19Adam Schefter:We'll be off. Final Four in Championship is here, though. Okay.

1:03:23Pat McAfee:And we might. May. Who knows? There's a lot coming in the offseason, but it is a tough morning this morning when you wake up and say, football season is done. It's over. And then you look in the mirror and you think to yourself, did you properly appreciate this football season? When you were watching that fourth quarter as Drake May was coming alive and he started seeing some special stuff and Borreales hits a left-footed back onside kick that ends up not working, but still, I like a little bit of sauce being played. You think yourself this ain't happening for long. This is 207 days after this.

1:03:56Pat McAfee:13. 213 days. Sorry about that. So I thought about that. Did you think about that as well? Or what are your thoughts as we reflect?

1:04:05AQ Shipley:I thought about that last night when you see the confetti. Obviously, it's a great season. It's a great story for Sam Darnall and the Seahawks and obviously all the other players as well. But it's always tough. But I, at least, I'm going to find something to hold on to. NBA basketball playoffs. When the playoffs get going, I do love it.

1:04:22Pat McAfee:They're saying that league's ass right now.

1:04:25AQ Shipley:Nah, the playoffs will always deliver. And that goes for most sports. They're saying people lose them by 20-some on regular basis. NBA playoffs deliver. We got the World Baseball Classic. You mentioned it. And for me, the pinnacle. I mean, I saw my GOAT, Sir Lewis Hamilton, at the Super Bowl with some company as well. Happy for him. Congratulations. Cadillac. We talked about hearing the anthem. Maybe we'll be hearing the national anthem at a couple F1 tracks this year. We win a couple with Cadillac. They unveiled their livery.

1:04:54Pat McAfee:Hold on, they run the national anthem when you win?

1:04:56AQ Shipley:Yeah, whoever is the driver that's top of the podium.

1:05:00Pat McAfee:So if Cadillac wins, which we're going through, by the way, we're coming in.

1:05:04AQ Shipley:It could be in Jetta, it could be in Brazil, it could be wherever you are in the country, whoever wins their national anthem.

1:05:10Adam Schefter:So not the racers' national anthem, the team. Ooh. Yeah, let's get an American driver in there. Let's get an American driver in there. I don't think there's an American driver.

1:05:21Darius Butler:Jeff Gordon and Tony Studer are the two drivers for Cadillac. Are they putting Tony Studer out there?

1:05:26Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what. Tony Studer and F1. Okay, let's move along. You watched the F1 movie. That's where we're at right now.

1:05:31Adam Schefter:I didn't watch it. No, that's what I'm saying. If you watch the F1 movie, I think just like me, you're going to give it one shot.

1:05:38AQ Shipley:Sonny Hayes is our reserve driver. Nice. He may be up here.

1:05:41Pat McAfee:Okay, that's Brad? Yeah, that's Brad. Okay, so I told you guys, don't want to watch it because I don't have the capability to add another thing into I'm interested in. Agreed. Okay? This is just like, and it felt like it did this to you. It did. There's some movies that come out that really sway people and buy them in. You remember that one where they made everybody vegan? Oh, yeah. You remember when that was happening? Hey, watch this documentary. You'll never want to eat meat again. It's like, I fucking like burgers. I am so sorry. I like chicken wings a lot. What? I know it's probably terrible, but a lot of us like to do that, so we apologize.

1:06:12Pat McAfee:But I had a couple friends that watched that. No more Wendy's. Done. Forever. And I'm like, I can't risk. It stuck to it? I don't know. That's a good question. We should follow up. Probably not. Wings are too good.

1:06:25Adam Schefter:Chickens too. Bacon. Oh, my. Steak cooking bacon. In your underwear.

1:06:33Pat McAfee:It's the best. Yeah. Yeah. So I won't watch this F1 more because I don't want to get swayed. It seems like it's so awesome everybody loves F1 immediately after.

1:06:41Adam Schefter:You just do what I did. You watch it. You love it. You enjoy it. You talk about how if Brad Pitt actually drives in this, he'll be the best driver and there's kind of no point. I'm never going to watch an F1 race. I love the movie. Love the movie. What about the Cadillac? They're right here. Ten minutes away. Not even. No, it's different. If the Cadillac team starts winning, then you might hear me saying, like, we got the best fucking team in the world. So, yeah, that is a possibility. But you don't have to go. The Cadillac driver does hammer pints, I will say. Is he American? No, he's driving.

1:07:12Adam Schefter:No, no. No, no. While he's driving. Yeah, he does it at the same time. What's his name? I forget. I just saw him in like a beer promotion on Instagram. I was like, this guy's cool. Clicked on his page.

1:07:24Pat McAfee:He's a freaking driver. Did you see Joe Montana in the FanDuel commercial with a dark beer? Everybody else had a light beer. That was awesome. That's Joe Montana football. That was like only Guinness. It can only look like Guinness beer. Well, we're at a bar of sports. Everybody's drinking light Guinness. I don't care. I need Guinness in here. And he was holding it for a different company at Madison. Vinny crushed it in that as well. Yes, he did. Vinny, by the way, great weekend. Yeah. Performance out of Adam Vinatieri. Better out of Luke Kuechly. True breeze. No doubt. Larry Fitzgerald looked unbelievable.

1:07:49Pat McAfee:Cannot wait to meet Mr. Roger. Now, joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who was not squatted by the modern. But he is a man who's won a Super Bowl championship. He's won a college football national championship. He's a Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawke. A.J. Hawke. Hawke, how you doing, man?

1:08:07Michael Dickson:I'm doing great. Happy handoff day, guys. I know we all were very aware of that and prepared. So, yeah, it's a good day.

1:08:12Pat McAfee:Happy hit. Happy. Oh.

1:08:15Michael Dickson:Which way? Another one, another one. Come on, dude. There we go. You don't want to fumble. Good hand. Oh, wow. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Two hands on that thing then.

1:08:23Pat McAfee:Yeah. All right, hold it to Holgate. Oh, okay. I didn't ever hear you.

1:08:26Michael Dickson:I got it in my right hand. I got it in my right hand.

1:08:27Pat McAfee:Okay, down under the table. Sweet. I appreciate it for you doing that. Let's talk about holding on to the ball, no turnovers. The Seattle Seahawks offense, zero turnovers all postseason. First time to do that since 2009 when Drew Brees beat the Indianapolis Colts and his Super Bowl in Miami in which Colts had to lead at halftime. and then on-site kick started the second half, and then Drew Brees and his baby are in the confetti for the rest of their lives. He's now first ball Hall of Famer. Congrats to him. And now the Seattle Seahawks potentially. Are they lining up to do this again and again and again?

1:08:56Pat McAfee:AJ, what's your takeaway from the Seattle Seahawks team? Feels like with McDonald there, defense always going to be elite. Sam Darnold seemingly never in a better place than in Seattle with the team that has rallied around them and then special teams, perfect. What are your thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks team, and what could possibly be now that we know that they can win the Super Bowl.

1:09:15Michael Dickson:Yeah, I mean, it's an unbelievable season what they were able to do in this game last night. I mean, Sam using his feet, that was like the X factor, I think, that we may not have thought of before this game. He being able to elude free runners a few times was gigantic too. But, I mean, everything they did, the field goals, the special teams, pinning them down inside the four, five, six-yard line multiple times in Witherspoon. This dude blitzed in. Also, I'm very happy for Derek Hall, this guy right there. I think Will Campbell kind of got screwed a little bit, trying to get some chip help, and he almost knocked him off you, knocked your guy, knocked him into Drake May.

1:09:47Michael Dickson:So I don't know if that one's on Will Campbell as much as some other people may have think so. But look at Witherspoon. How are you ever going to block that dude? He's running a 4-1, and he's so violent. Their defense is an absolute thing of beauty to watch.

1:09:59Pat McAfee:Okay, so tell me about being able to get home with four and then let alone bringing pressure and Drake May being 23 years old and thinking to himself, jeez, what the hell is going on on the other side of the line of scrimmage? Do you think it was more that or the moment? I think it was Drake May, 23, second year, first year in this system, learning a lot about what NFL defenses can do throughout this playoff run and saying, holy hell, now we've got to recalibrate in an offseason. I think Drake May will win a Super Bowl. AJ, your thoughts?

1:10:26Michael Dickson:Yeah, I think he definitely will at some point. He is so young. I mean, what he was up against is something that not many quarterbacks have had to face in a Super Bowl. The amount of pressure they're able to get on. He just was never comfortable. We say it all the time, like, oh, you got to get a quarterback off the spot, make him feel uncomfortable. Well, that's what this Seattle defense did from, like, the first snap of the game. Like, they're just absolutely relentless. And I guess we shouldn't be shocked. Like, how many players at Super Bowl, at Media Row, told us, like, hey, this defense is violent.

1:10:55Michael Dickson:They're coming, like, the snap of the ball. They are coming downhill. They're penetrating. And they get there with bad intentions. I feel we had multiple players tell us that throughout the week.

1:11:03Pat McAfee:Brock Purdy definitely said that. He was, like, every single player in D. but it wasn't just that they're coming with bad intentions. It's also like a lot of moxie on that Seattle Seahawks defense as well.

1:11:12AQ Shipley:Yeah, and that's what Brock Purdy talked about. When we hear about defenses, they're just players talking in general. I forget who asked them from our show about, you know, shit talking and getting after, obviously, the toxic table with shit talking Brock Purdy. But he was talking about the Seahawks defense and how much just energy they have and how much shit they're kind of talking to each other and having people up. And, I mean, you can see it. When you turn the tape on, when you're watching it on TV, you can see the guys flying around. You can see that they're one of those defense who is like, and A.J., you've been a part of this on the sideline.

1:11:41AQ Shipley:Like, hey, who's going to make the next play? Who's going to make the next play? And like on the Patriots, when you're playing offense like that, it's almost like, all right, they're taking turns making mistakes. So it was tough. You know, tough sled for Drake made with just a phenomenal job out of Seattle Seahawks defense all year long and then played their best, you know, on the biggest stage.

1:11:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, defense is obviously incredible, but whenever they have maybe the best punter in the ball punting for them, whenever the ball needs to be sent the opposite direction, What a game. What a season. I mean, a couple weeks ago, hits the ball so high, obviously caused a turnover late, helped Seattle go on to win. Then in the Super Bowl, you're talking about innovative, courageous punts, not only pinning them deep, but obviously setting the Seattle Seahawks defense up to be historic. Ladies and gentlemen, the first ever Australian-born Super Bowl champion, punter for the Seattle Seahawks, Michael Dixon.

1:12:29Adam Schefter:Yeah!

1:12:31Pat McAfee:Michael! What's up, lad?

1:12:33Darius Butler:What up? Hey. How we doing?

1:12:35Pat McAfee:Congratulations, man. Genuine.

1:12:37Darius Butler:Oh, thank you.

1:12:38Pat McAfee:Okay, because you obviously have been somebody, I think, that a lot of Australians have been inspired by whenever they come over to kick in America, but also American kickers and punters realizing what's possible with a football. So you getting a chance to experience the flowers, and then in the biggest game that you've ever had, having one of your best games you've ever had, and I'm saying one of them, I don't know where you would rank it, I think is special, brother. You're good for the game. You need to know that as a whole, Michael.

1:13:04Darius Butler:Oh, yeah. Appreciate it. No, it's a blessing. I love being able to help the team out and get the defense rallying around me when I pin it deep. You know, it's a crazy feeling.

1:13:16Pat McAfee:Tell me about Jason Myers. Obviously, tell me about your game, your entire special teams group. Feels like McDonald really cares. Feels like there's been real investment. I think they've invested in every asset or aspect of special teams. Can you tell me about the culture a little bit and how they treat the third phase?

1:13:32Darius Butler:Yeah, for sure. Mike definitely prioritizes it, gives us our time. We meet. Jay Harbaugh is a genius and, you know, puts a lot of trust into our guys to execute some of our schemes. And Jay, my obviously setting the record and just he's a robot. The attention to details that he has, it's pretty crazy to see. And I'm so happy that he was able to ball out yesterday.

1:13:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, amen. Here's a stat from Hembo that we got about your entire special teams. We have a special teams efficiency dating back 20 years since 2006. This Seahawks unit, 75.8 on 0-100 score, scored the highest by any Super Bowl champion during that time. Great defense, phenomenal special teams. Don't turn the ball over. Feels like old school football out there. Can you describe McDonald a little bit? Obviously, you were with Pete Carroll for a while. Obviously, you're from Australia, live in Seattle, I think, now for most of your life as opposed to just down in Texas. Can you tell me about how life changes when McDonald gets in there as the head coach for you and for the team as a whole?

1:14:34Darius Butler:Yeah. So obviously Pete was the oldest, you know, coach in the league when he was here. And then we got Mike and he was the youngest. And Mike came in and he was just himself and genuine. And he came in and told us like, hey, guys, I'm going to do my thing. And I believe in you guys. And it's been so fun to play with him just because, you know, he's so well read and he thinks about every aspect of the game. And it's been so cool. And we've learned a lot from him, as I did with Pete.

1:15:14Pat McAfee:AJ has a question for you, Champ.

1:15:16Michael Dickson:Yeah, Michael, I guess what about you personally? How did you feel yesterday riding to the stadium, getting out there pregame? Did you feel something special in the air? Did you feel some electricity that your team was going to find a way to get this win?

1:15:28Darius Butler:Yeah, I mean, all week the guys were super chill. We had meetings at the hotel on game day before we headed over, and everyone was chill. So I knew that we were going to come out with some swag and do our thing, and yeah, we did it. I mean, this group is super confident and laid back. We've got a pretty young team, and they didn't shy away from the moment.

1:15:53Pat McAfee:So when you're hitting balls in warm-ups, you know? Or how long? Have you ever had bad warm-up? When was the last time you had bad warm-up going into game?

1:16:04Darius Butler:No, I don't really have a bad warm-up. I feel like I'm pretty much just got my routine down, and, yeah, I feel good.

1:16:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, it looks like it, man. You put that 51 yards on the sideline. And by the way, having Tirico as the commentator for you, great news. Because early in the game, I don't know how much you've heard. Early in the game, Tirico giving you your flowers. Like, a lot of people saying this guy's best in the league. I mean, this is what it is. Then boom, inside the five. Then you have a backed up punt. Bang, 51 yards on the sideline, no return. Like, Tirico gives love. And also, the game was very boring. I mean, you're talking about, like, 10 punts and 12 possessions. It was like you were the highlight there for a while, and Tirico was showcasing it.

1:16:45Pat McAfee:you're good for ball man you really are you're gonna take the lombardi back to australia we saw robert irwin uh try to tackle an american crocodile on our show i don't know if you saw that he did the american death roll you're gonna have to check it out on the flag yeah but australia hosting game obviously big deal you taking lombardi back there and what are your kind of thoughts on australia getting more invested in the nfl which we are very pumped for oh i love it um the game's gonna be a sellout there's going to be a hundred thousand people there it's going to be the uh rams 49ers

1:17:15Darius Butler:hopefully hopefully uh the season after this one the seahawks get out there and play in sydney or something that would be that'd be a dream come true because the the game has grown so much um it's been really cool to it's been really cool to watch what's the lingo we need crikey

1:17:32Pat McAfee:there's another one in there there's one word that you guys use. How many letters? It rhymes with what you do. How many letters? It rhymes with what you're maybe the best in the world. I think I know what you mean. Australia, hey, I think it was a cool culture. I was down there for eight, ten days. Every Aussie I've met through the punting world, it's like I'm a fan of it. I think your guys' vibes, athleticism, everything is great for sport. I'm happy the NFL is going back there. Time is crazy, though. The time is insane. Oh, yeah. How do you do that with family? Do you, like, have set times that you catch up with people?

1:18:13Pat McAfee:How does that all work?

1:18:15Darius Butler:Yeah, I mean, it's hard to FaceTime with the time difference, obviously. But there's, like, sections of the day where you just make it work. And then traveling, like, everyone's freaking out about traveling with the team. But, you know, to go play there, you leave at night and then you land in the morning. It's really, I think people are, you know, overestimating how jet lag they're going to be. I feel like it's worse when you go to Europe. So I think everyone will be fine.

1:18:39Pat McAfee:I like where your head's at. Okay. Now, the thing that scared the hell out of me, and you know this, is, you know, they have a screen in front of you that's tracking where a plane is. That's all blue. There is nothing. There is not a single. We're 10 hours into that thing, and it's all blue. It's like, okay, so if anything happens here at all, there's no chance. No. There he is. So you kind of get that going as you're sitting in a tube for that long. But you're right. If you are able to make it to waking up in the morning there, it is like fresh up. And then the coffee there. Food.

1:19:11Darius Butler:Oh, yeah.

1:19:11Pat McAfee:The food's so good over there. Yeah. Yeah, you're world champion here, though. Don't ever fucking forget it. All right, Dixon, let's not forget it. Okay, we've got a couple more questions for you. Go ahead, D-Bud.

1:19:20AQ Shipley:Congrats again, champ. As a defensive player in that great defense you play with, as a punter, you're a part of that defense. It's like a punt. That's like first play of defense. I'm sure you probably wear a defensive colored jersey in practice. I hope you do. So I want to just ask you, what's your relationship with that defense? I know a lot of young guys that fly around, talk a lot of shit, which I love. What's your relationship with that defense? And then Mike McDonald, I want to ask about the prop you guys have in your team meeting room that made its way to the Internet with all the helmets, kind of the heads of the opponents that you've conquered throughout the season.

1:19:51AQ Shipley:What was your first reaction to seeing that?

1:19:55Darius Butler:uh yeah relationship with the defense is like we're close I love those guys and like I said earlier you know I down one inside the 10 and everyone's running up patting me on the head and getting around it so uh that obviously means a lot um but yeah I mean we're cool outside of the you know outside of the game as well so this this unit is super close it's it's been really fun to be on this team um yeah and then the the helmet stacking i mean it's just a cool visual and yeah

1:20:25Pat McAfee:i mean collecting collecting heads yes yes you certainly are uh yes you certainly doesn't feel like it's gonna stop you know it just doesn't feel and we were telling the niners that they were coming on the show obviously all week fred was a part of the actual coverage oh yeah kyle shanahan a part of the actual coverage nfc west san francisco 49ers a large part of the coverage and then all of a sudden you got the nfc west seattle seahawks actually in the super bowl interesting dynamic there especially with the relationship go ahead ty yeah speaking of that

1:20:52Adam Schefter:was that i'm sure you know leading up your guy you guys obviously aren't thinking about that at all but after you win the game and you're celebrating and you got you know the hats and smoking cigars and everything was there any part of you that was kind of like you know what this is actually awesome that we won this in the niners stadium and we kind of get to just stick it right up a division rival's ass one more time a couple weeks after beating the shit out of them.

1:21:16Darius Butler:For sure. I mean, that made it that extra bit. It was a cherry on top. You know, there was in the locker room, all the 49ers logos were plastered with Seahawks logos. Yes. And, yeah, I mean, it made it extra sweet. It couldn't be any better. It's perfect.

1:21:30Pat McAfee:The future of that NFC West looks very good, you know, for the long haul. Obviously, you know that. How old are you now? It feels like you're vet now, vet vet now.

1:21:41Darius Butler:Yeah, I just turned 30, so I'm going into my ninth year. It's coming in this next year.

1:21:46Pat McAfee:Okay, so you guys start kicking over there when you're like four, right? Let's have a kick. You do the entire thing. And it feels like, I mean, with the way punter and technology, has Thomas Morstead just finished up, what, year 19 or something? Yeah. You got another 10 years of doing this, you think, in the body? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this has been my best year hitting the ball.

1:22:06Darius Butler:I mean, each year I've improved, so I'm like, why not? I mean, not even halfway.

1:22:11Pat McAfee:my career hopefully you got more shit to do with it are you guys bringing in the banana ball and all this other stuff i mean that last punt where you turn that song bitch sideways you know and in line drive that thing over their heads the reason why i think it's so impressive is because if that's a foot lower that's hitting somebody's head and then all of a sudden you know this is worst night of dixon's life instead the amount of courage and confidence in yourself that that takes just to be like let me go ahead and just sidewind this thing over six foot four freak athletes heads because if one somebody puts their hand up and blocks that this guy's a dipshit dixon's an absolute dipshit but instead like just having the ability to move the pocket a little bit right or left being able to athlete it almost it's like you're you're a special talent michael it's really cool shit to watch is there more on the horizon are we just mastering everything we

1:22:59Darius Butler:already have uh yeah i think there's there's a couple that i've been playing with that um I mean, it's more situation-based that I should – I might bring him out next year. We'll see.

1:23:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, let's score a touchdown. Yeah, me too.

1:23:12Darius Butler:Oh, yeah.

1:23:13Pat McAfee:Let's go ahead and do one of those. We appreciate you, man. Safe travels back. Thank you. What's next, you guys? The parade, I guess. Hold on. Tony has a question.

1:23:19Darius Butler:Yeah, Michael, is there any one of your teammates that we need to keep our eyes open for at the parade? Who's going to put on a show at the parade? Like, if you had to pick one. You know, AJ Barn is going to do something funny. Okay, good. He's a meathead, so he'll do something cool. I'm sure.

1:23:34Pat McAfee:Great touchdown. First touchdown of the game. Fourth quarter, A.J. Barner. Shout out to him. He won a lot of us money. He won a lot of us a lot of money. Very, very, very pumped for A.J. Barner. Tell that meathead to enjoy the hell out of what he just did. He certainly should. John Schneider is who A.J. said. A.J., is that going back to the Packer days? John Schneider could really tear it down, you know, especially with what he accomplished.

1:23:53Michael Dickson:Yeah, he's a man's man. I would say he's going to enjoy himself. He absolutely should. He's the first guy ever to do this, right, as a GM.

1:23:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. Full new team. Now, hey, Michael, What is the Australian for? Foster's. Foster's. Are you just ordering all the Foster's in the Western United States of America for the parade, or how's that going?

1:24:10Darius Butler:No, I think Foster's is kind of like the Outback Steakhouse of beers. What?

1:24:15Pat McAfee:You're telling me the Bloomin' Onion isn't real either, you son of a bitch.

1:24:19Darius Butler:So it's great.

1:24:19Pat McAfee:What do you mean? What do you mean by that?

1:24:22Darius Butler:Yeah. No, I mean, I don't see anyone drinking Foster's.

1:24:27Adam Schefter:Yeah, you're an American. Yeah, exactly.

1:24:30Pat McAfee:Australian for beer. Exactly. That was good marketing. They got us.

1:24:34Darius Butler:Yeah, big time.

1:24:35Pat McAfee:Have you seen the, okay, you know rugby probably because you grew up in Australia, right?

1:24:40Darius Butler:Yeah, I know it. I didn't play it, but I don't know.

1:24:43Pat McAfee:Do they do the Oklahoma drill? Like, is that thing that we're seeing on TV right now or on the internet, is that like a known rugby drill? Like, how do we get to that point? Because the one that we're watching, I think, is founded by Aussie dudes. I think all these are founded by Aussie dudes. And it's just rugby running directly at each other. This is called Run Nation. I believe it hit this weekend. Run It was another organization that we've seen on the internet for a while where they were just kind of doing it at a field where there was just a line of people and they were just running into each other.

1:25:09Pat McAfee:Is that normal? And how were you at this game? Good, I assume. And can I jump over the person?

1:25:15Darius Butler:I think this is kind of like this was something that people would probably do at practice or at school. You know, it's just a way to kind of see who wins, to flex on the other person. But, yeah, I mean, it's blown up. It's a crazy, crazy sport. I would never do that.

1:25:31Pat McAfee:Okay, so southern part of Australia, if I'm correct, Aussie rules football, right? And then northern kind of rugby. Is that accurate?

1:25:40Darius Butler:Yeah, so it's, yeah. East, northeast is more rugby. I grew up in Sydney. That's more rugby. But then Melbourne, Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia, that's more Aussie rules.

1:25:52Pat McAfee:Who's your team?

1:25:54Darius Butler:Collingwood Magpies.

1:25:55Pat McAfee:Oh, hey. Nice. Cockzilla. I was a big fan of the Magpies for a while. I'm going to let you know, though, Brisbane Lions gave me a jersey. We just went back-to-back. Boom. We just went back-to-back. Yeah, it's great to be a Brisbane Lion, brother. I want to let you know. We love that sport. That's a great – I didn't know about that until, like, COVID. Yeah, COVID. I learned about Aussie Rules football and COVID because everybody said that punting style that you guys were doing, rugby style, rugby style, rugby style. It's like, I guess it is rugby style, but all these dudes are Aussie Rules football players.

1:26:22Pat McAfee:I had no idea that was the case until COVID. Great game. Great sport.

1:26:25Darius Butler:Yeah, no, it's fun. Yeah, I miss it. I still dream about it sometimes, and I'm out there killing it in my dreams. So it'd be cool to go home and watch it.

1:26:33Pat McAfee:Are you getting some speckies? What is kind of? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1:26:37Darius Butler:I'm getting speckies, kicking it around, scoring goals.

1:26:41Pat McAfee:You know what you're doing now in real life, bro?

1:26:44Darius Butler:Yeah, I know. Even better.

1:26:45Pat McAfee:Yes, sir. But also, I mean, hitting one of those. What is that at the cricket grounds, I believe? Oh, yeah. Off somebody's back.

1:26:54Adam Schefter:In the grand final.

1:26:55Pat McAfee:Oh, my. Now you back that thing up, and then now it's your turn. It's like, what a moment. The dramatics of it all are awesome, too. I got a chance to go watch it in real time. Somebody goes up there, lands. Obviously, there's a huge reaction. There's supposed to be a clock on how much time they have to kind of get the next kickoff. That clock is, there's a lot of, like, zero. It's okay there. Great sport, man. Obviously, I've created some legends. Congratulations on winning a Super Bowl, and hopefully this becomes even more of a pipeline Australia into the NFL because obviously I think the continent will love American football.

1:27:29Pat McAfee:We appreciate you, man.

1:27:30Darius Butler:Oh, thank you so much.

1:27:31Pat McAfee:No problem. Hey, take care, dude.

1:27:34Darius Butler:All right.

1:27:34Pat McAfee:Fosters. Yeah.

1:27:38Adam Schefter:Yeah. Okay. Good to know. Yeah. Kind of a dick move if you ask me to just hang up like that. But that's just me. I think it was the perfect answer.

1:27:47Pat McAfee:Actually, perfect ending to the conversation. He's a weapon. He's really, really good. Yeah. He's actually 30. That's crazy. I thought he was the only guy. So Brad Wing, I don't know if he left LSU early or Dixon left Texas early. I don't know. One of them left early.

1:28:02Darius Butler:I saw Dixon was the MVP of their what's called bowl game. Yeah.

1:28:07Pat McAfee:And I think he left. I don't know if that was early, but then he left. But, yeah, he is unbelievable. All the Aussie guys that came over, it was like, hey, they could be the next Dixon. They could be the next this guy. They could be it. And then for him to actually be the one, because a lot have tried. Like a lot have tried. A lot of great Aussie punters in college. A few have obviously made it into the NFL. Scotland now has a couple. Ireland has a couple kickers. It's like these ball-kicking countries are starting to get kind of in to the NFL. But out of Australia, Michael Dixon was the one where everybody was like, oh, this is possible, this is possible.

1:28:41Pat McAfee:I think he's pretty unique no matter what country he was from. I think he is very, very unique. How big is he? I would assume he's a strapping lad. Big lad. I would assume. But he has the ability, they call it a torpedo, which is what we do for punting. They call it a torpedo kick. His ability to torpedo the ball, tight spiral with a bad drop, means he's athletic. He has to change his foot to his drop, which is only happening in half a second because his drops are kind of interesting. They're down and inside. But the way he's able to control it, and then he's got all these other shit, it's like the amount of courage it takes to do it in a Super Bowl, in that particular moment, obviously huge, but the amount of talent you have to have for all of that.

1:29:19Pat McAfee:It's like he's a special dude. I appreciate all the international ball kickers coming, but it's like I think it's going to be tough to find, you know, just another Michael Dixon. Like I know we're selling like, hey, there's more Michael Dixons. And maybe there someday – I don't think there's going to be a lot of them. I think there is levels to this whole thing. America, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, Dixon's a guy no matter what.

1:29:42Adam Schefter:That's how you chart a Maelotta. Like you kind of think, oh, okay, Australia has Dixon's and Maelotta's just growing on trees and they're all over there and they're eventually just going to come over and become, you know, superstar punters and left tackles. But it's few and far between. I mean, that's why he's the first punter. Hard to make the league. Yeah. 6-2, 2-10. He left early.

1:30:02AQ Shipley:Okay. So did he kick and punt in college? Just punted. Just punted still?

1:30:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, dude, he was like. What are you doing that game? Probably 14 inside the 5. That's what it was like. 18 tackles. But him going to Seattle is just so far away. Yeah. You know, punter in Seattle. I mean, think about the amount of stories. That's not a lot of national hype. Especially with the defense. He caused a turnover, what was that, two games ago.

1:30:29Darius Butler:So it says they punted 11 times in that bowl game, 10 inside of 15.

1:30:38Pat McAfee:Okay, that'll do. Yeah, pretty damn good. And whenever you asked him if he wears a defensive jersey, he said, yes, I do, or whatever. It's like, I think he takes a lot of pride in what he does. He's obviously phenomenal. Seems to be super chill. Yeah, big time. Super chill.

1:30:51Adam Schefter:Great mood today, that's for sure. How about Bob Irwin? Oh, yeah.

1:30:55Pat McAfee:Now we got Ixen on the program. Kind of going down under around here. A little bit. Start working on that Aussie accent. I know.

1:31:00Adam Schefter:I need to continue to kind of brush it off.

1:31:02Pat McAfee:How about him saying, and everybody talks about the flight, like, leave at night, wake up in the morning. It's kind of time. Way worse going to Europe. See, okay. Starting to get into it. I appreciate you doing that. Let's start working on that because I think down under is going to become big for football as a whole. Speaking of football as a whole, you know, it's nice to have hindsight in this particular sport, in this particular game, especially in the biggest game of the year. We started a segment last week that we certainly should have started about beginning of the season, maybe two years ago.

1:31:29Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Monday Morning DC with DB. Now, obviously, Monday morning means like Monday morning quarterback where we have the incredible heads up of hindsight on what actually happened. So this is coming from a space of how would you have stopped it with one of the best defensive minds to ever speak into a microphone, Darius J. Butler. How are we fixing the problems that happened for New England last night if we're to look back at the film?

1:31:55AQ Shipley:Well, you know what? It was tough to fix those problems because usually that's where we start, and we'll see that probably on the third one. But this one, since we have such a dominating defensive performance, we'll just go with the good to start out here. Let me get this stick back here.

1:32:08Pat McAfee:Yep, yep. Oh, nice. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

1:32:10AQ Shipley:Just so we get a vision. Hey, great. Great fucking job last time.

1:32:14Pat McAfee:Hey, it was pretty good. I felt like I knew what was happening. I've been trying. Yeah, sticks. No, we hit sticks. Oh, okay.

1:32:18AQ Shipley:Oh, nice. Touch tips. Swords. Hand off date. Touch tips.

1:32:23Adam Schefter:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's your problem? That's what you do. You touch tips. I don't even know. Touch tips and explode on that board, baby. Let's go. Come on. I don't even know what I'm talking about.

1:32:34Michael Dickson:Doc those things. Here we go.

1:32:35Pat McAfee:We are about to. We're about to take a trip on a boat into super good football analysis. Where we have Mike? We good with the mic?

1:32:43AQ Shipley:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so third and 15, we talked a bunch about this defense and how they do a lot with two shells, you know, play it back, four rushers. Once you get in third and 15 and he's long down in distances, now a coach like Mike McDonald can just dial it up and do whatever you want. So now you have a different look here. You got Eamon Ward down here on the edge. You got Jobin Press, split safety look, and then their best blitzer, probably the best blitzing DB when it comes to a true nickel slot with Devin Witherspoon, young dynamic corner coming from the slot. Times this up perfectly.

1:33:15AQ Shipley:AJ mentioned it earlier with the speed that he hits the line of scrimmage with. There's no way that these offensive tackles or offensive guards are going to be able to move their feet and stay in his way. And this is a skill that you kind of just almost have to be born with as a DB.

1:33:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, the timing is so important, AJ, because they get locked up on their guys, right? I got one or outside guy two or who becomes and he just kind of gets snaked in maybe maybe this offensive line isn't as ass as Everybody's saying maybe it's just scheme and problems attacking what they know their week is

1:33:45AQ Shipley:It's plays But it's also players because you can dial this up for a lot of players And there's no way they get through that traffic over the years over the history of the game I can think of like Charles Woodson or like the honey badger some of these players just have a natural like their football players and they have a feel for how to hit it, when to hit it. Because pre-snap, Drake made a give. Yep, pause it here. A give, a tell for a slot blitzing defender is the safety behind him. You have that safety behind him because once he leaves, typically this guy or a guy from the inside is going to take his responsibility.

1:34:18AQ Shipley:You see that, AJ? So right now you've got a top. Why would they be stacked on top of each other, Drake?

1:34:24Adam Schefter:That's what he's going to learn going forward, right?

1:34:26Pat McAfee:That's right.

1:34:27Adam Schefter:Yeah. But also for the offense, is there not some sort of, hey, I'm just going to, instead of running a vertical 20 yards downfield because he's never going to see me yet, is there not just some check to a hot route, hot route, Bradley Cooper, wedding crashers, just run a hitch?

1:34:43AQ Shipley:It definitely could be. If you pause it, though, offensively, and this will be a better question, I'm sure, for AQ who can really break it down. He's going to be so pissed with what I'm doing. Offensively, we got six rushers. Now, run it back to the very beginning, please. So, Ernest Jones, he's showing. You got Aemon Ward showing. He's going to drop out, though. So, I don't know where they slid, how they counted. He's going to drop out, and the added rush is going to come from the – he's not even in the screen right now because I perfectly times it up. But numbers-wise, you still have six on six.

1:35:13AQ Shipley:You got five offensive linemen with the back, and you got six rushers. So, on paper, and even Henry's getting a chip in there. So, on paper, you should have enough to pick this up. He lets him go.

1:35:23Pat McAfee:He goes to help him, I think, because, yeah.

1:35:26AQ Shipley:Yeah, you got a six-man protection plus the tight end chip and AQ will clean us up, I'm sure. But, yeah, I mean, that's just a great feel for it. Great job timing it up and a great call and a long down at this for Mike McDonald. So what are we saying? We're saying, hey, the guy's coming. Let's just know that. That's Monday morning quarterbacking right now? That's Monday morning quarterbacking. Fixing it up, having the protection. I'm sure in the online, in the trenches, in their room, they're really talking about how do we get on the same page picking this up, especially against this defense. I'm sure they saw this on tape in some type of variation.

1:35:59AQ Shipley:Maybe it was Iman Worry. Maybe it was Love, whoever it was. And that's the other thing about Seattle. They have so many different defensive backs and defensive players that can do different things at a high level.

1:36:08Pat McAfee:Great tacklers, too. I thought Drake was going to get away a lot more than he did whenever there was some pressure. He was getting tackled a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might know a little bit more about what the big boys were doing on this particular MA. Ladies and gentlemen, our host in the trenches, A.Q. Shipley. Thank you. Hey, Kish, what the hell is going on out here? We didn't know that Witherspoon was coming, and you think that's the problem. What about Moses? Does he see him? This is Monday morning quarterbacking. Obviously, in the moment, it's much harder than what we have right now from the sky cam.

1:36:37Pat McAfee:We're not talking anybody. But what happens in this situation? Should he be calling that dad out? Should the center be calling that out? How does this kind of normally operate when they fix this?

1:36:46Adam Schefter:Yeah, so the interesting thing is, is as they have all the guys up, they can bring four to the left. They can bring four to the right. Have no idea. with the center going right, you are in a sort protection. So you got center guard tackle for three for most dangerous four. You should go inside out. So Moses actually should have stopped on the DB. So as the DB comes, he should have stopped there. I think he tried to just missed him as he makes an inside move, just like he made Will Campbell look silly on the other side on an earlier play. But we always tell the running back, the running back has coast to coast, So he starts left thinking that that is his guy.

1:37:26Adam Schefter:Well, he has to stay there because that guy comes, so he can't come across for the other guy, which then leaves. It should be the outside most guy on the quarterback. Should be able to throw hot. But Moses misses the DB coming inside. And as he comes inside, he misses him. So that guy comes free. This is hot right here. But May should be hot off the outside guy. This is hot right here, yeah. That's hot. That's who you got to get it to right now. And you got to know that. If they bring four to the right or four to the left, then you've got to get rid of that ball fast, and that's on Drake May.

1:37:59Pat McAfee:Okay, so this is a great scheme, too, because they keep running back this way, right? This is a McDonald's special, Dan Mir?

1:38:06Adam Schefter:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is one of those things, because he's shown that look a million times and only brought four, right, DB? Like, at the end of the day, he has that same look where he shows seven, brings four, brings five, brings six, or can bring seven, and ultimately that's cover zero.

1:38:21Pat McAfee:All right, is the next one with offensive line stuff?

1:38:22AQ Shipley:The next one is as well, yep.

1:38:23Pat McAfee:Hey, Q, will you hang around here? I got all the time in the world, boys. Come on, let's go. Hey, what do you do? You're really aggressive coming, I would say. Poking a bear. Wait, what'd he do? Aggressive coming. Oh, yeah, he did. What'd he do? What'd he do?

1:38:36Adam Schefter:I start training the boys tomorrow. I got a couple guys in the shipyard tomorrow, but today I got nothing but time for you guys. Okay.

1:38:43Pat McAfee:Nothing but time, nothing but time. Thor called him a fatso. Yeah, what did he call Thor?

1:38:47Adam Schefter:Well, he got a fucking pussy.

1:38:50Pat McAfee:What are we doing?

1:38:52Adam Schefter:What are we doing? Yes, I would have loved to line up and do O-line drills and show them what leverage is all of them. Okay, what if he goes like this to you? What if he just crushes your skull? I do appreciate that. Then I would have turned into a UFC fighter. I learned from Justin Gates, you just kicked a perennial nerve. Okay, all right.

1:39:11Pat McAfee:I do appreciate that you got offended by Martin calling you a fatso. I do appreciate that. I thought he was –

1:39:17Adam Schefter:I didn't see the earlier part, by the way. He called AJ 450 pounds, so that at least makes me feel a little bit better. Yeah, exactly. I think he was just cracking jokes.

1:39:23Pat McAfee:He speaks a different language. He speaks a different language. Look at you. Yeah. He was just trying to talk Shedby with the boys. That's right. Thor, I would like to let you know, AQ is offended by you calling him a speech. He is. And also, Thor, AQ knows that we will hold that over his head for the rest of his life, that the Martin, the world's strongest man, said, I can't lift that guy. He got me a 600 pounds. Yeah, right. That's awesome. We appreciate you, Thor. He does not know.

1:39:45Adam Schefter:He wants to fight you, Thor.

1:39:47Pat McAfee:Let's go to. No. Whoa, whoa. weird at all.

1:39:50Adam Schefter:Do you, AQ?

1:39:51Pat McAfee:I don't know. Let's stop. We move on.

1:39:54Adam Schefter:Hey, that's where the short arms might really come into play. Sorry.

1:39:58Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, we were watching short arms. Nope.

1:40:02Adam Schefter:Torn MCL. He had a torn MCL. He's on IR. He's 22 years old. First year, he's going up against the greatest scheme in the history of football. We're not making excuses. We're not doing that. He had a torn MCL. How are you supposed to hate? Hates! Hates! Hates! Should someone else have been playing then?

1:40:20Pat McAfee:No, he's a football player.

1:40:23Adam Schefter:Maybe we throw 6-0 linemen in, though, Tony. That's not a bad idea. Well, maybe a little assistance.

1:40:27Pat McAfee:Maybe with some big bodies out there, certainly. Torn MCL is going to be tough to hit! Hit! That's going to be tough to do. That's going to be tough to do. Honestly, I think we just found out through the conversation with Jack Collinsworth that it was officially a torn MCL. Because remember, he had the towel over his head when the whole thing happened.

1:40:44Adam Schefter:I thought his whole knee exploded when it first happened. like it was torn everything and it was just MCL but I mean yeah to D-Bud's point you don't make excuses but yeah it is going to be pretty damn hard to as AQ would say re-anchor yourself when you're getting bull rushed over and over again but you know that's Monday morning offensive line coach. Yes it is and now let's do a little more

1:41:04AQ Shipley:Monday morning defense coordinator with DB. What's next? So the last one was a six man pressure on third and long an obvious pass situation. If you run it back again this is when they like to bring their pressures. Obvious passing situation. Now this is the scoring time. It's 22-7. 437 on the clock in the fourth quarter. First and 10. So DBs, you're playing with a ton of depth. And once again, Devin Witherspoon with a great disguise, great timing, hitting this. Rush it. Boom. Let it run, let it run a little bit. Pause it here. So now you're bringing the pressure. And once again, you're getting a free hitter.

1:41:36AQ Shipley:Looks like the running back's releasing through the line of scrimmage right past the blitzer. First and 10. Witherspoon not only gets the, it looked like a forced fumble, forced fumble, recover. I think they call it an interception. Pick six. Just an unbelievable play. Started with a spoon, ended with a woosu. A woosu. A woosu. A woosu.

1:41:52Pat McAfee:Incredible play there. Is this thing in 1080p? Yeah, I know. Maybe 320? I couldn't see. Incredible job breaking it down. Much clearer picture with the way you're describing it than what I was seeing there. I was, that's a phenomenal, I mean, incredible breakdown of what we need to see. I don't know if anybody can see it. It looks incredible on TV.

1:42:09AQ Shipley:Let me see it from the replay. Yeah, I think it looks incredible. Oh, no.

1:42:14Pat McAfee:Hey, these guys are unstoppable. So this is going to be forever now with the Seahawks?

1:42:18AQ Shipley:Yeah, the Seahawks, this is what they do. This is what Mike McDonald does. And once again, from that last replay, you can see how, however, he gets home free. But you'll see numbers-wise, these guys, once again, dropper coming from the opposite side. And again, you get a free hitter with the Witherspoon.

1:42:34Pat McAfee:They're so good. Yeah. AQ, what are you thinking here?

1:42:37Adam Schefter:Hey, yeah, so can we go to that? Can we stop it from the other angle, from the offenses behind? Can we bring it back to that?

1:42:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, certainly.

1:42:44Adam Schefter:Right there. Perfect. What's Mike on what he's doing? So, this is what I don't understand. Again, this is a young quarterback. This is a rookie. Really, he's his first year really starting full, so it's his second year, obviously. But first year getting a full season, right? So, he will learn. You've got to switch this protection. So, if we can rewind this just a little bit more. So, the guy basically over top of the tight end. DB, can you point to him? The guy off the ball. Oh, no, no. A little bit further off the ball. Over top of the tackle, essentially. Yeah, that guy. There you go. So, that's the Sam linebacker.

1:43:12Adam Schefter:It's a two-by-two formation. Strong side! Two-by-two over the tight end. So you got the Sam. Now you got Mike and Will. Okay, so we always say find the middle of the three. So the middle of the three is over Morgan Moses. Right tackle. Right there. So he should redirect this protection, send the center right. They would be two for two on the nose guard to the Mike, and then the back would pick up the DB. You're picked up. You got all the time. He sends the center left. So now you get two free off the left side like that. The back can only handle one, but as he saw it, the threat is the two most dangerous were to the right, send the center right, now the guard ends up on one of those two and the back has the other and you're picked up.

1:43:53Pat McAfee:So he goes, New York, New York, New York, is what he would say there before the play call. That is what he would say?

1:44:01Adam Schefter:100 % Tom Brady, a quarterback right there, is switching that protection. He's thinking two most dangerous are going to be coming from the right right there. If they don't, we're still picked up, and I can throw hot if they bring from the left.

1:44:13Michael Dickson:And he's looking for that, too. He's waiting for me. The guard doesn't even block anybody, AQ. That's what they do. They get it to where they take advantage of it. The guard ends up not really doing anything. Because they're sending the whole line, so he's got to go with Leonard Williams.

1:44:24Adam Schefter:So that's a four for five sliding the line, bringing on Wenu with Bradbury all the way over to the left. But if they send the center right there, now you're two for two, center to the Mike linebacker, and then the back can sit on the Will, who's the DB, coming. and then bam, all of a sudden you're picked up. There it is.

1:44:42Pat McAfee:That's Monday morning offensive line. That's right. Hey, we appreciate that, AQ. Thank you for joining us, man. Happy, well, I don't really know actually, man.

1:44:52Adam Schefter:Happy Olympics. Boys, I got you on the big screen. Whoa. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, you look pretty good there.

1:44:59Pat McAfee:Good lighting there. I think you did a good job. Don't you think? I just saw you on the big screen down there, lower corner.

1:45:03Adam Schefter:I mean, I feel like Schefter over here. Schefter was a little shaky up there in L.A., a little shaky.

1:45:11Pat McAfee:Come on, his shoulders. What do you think? He's been walking through the airport all day. He's carrying his bag. Holding his phone. He's got a lot going on, AQ. You're saying you want to showcase that you have a nice, sturdy forearm and tricep that you can lock in. Is that what you're saying? Coming off Super Bowl week. Tough journey out there. Then straight into waste management. I'm a little shaky, too, boys. Hey, a lot of journeys out there in San Francisco. Some signing up for more journeys. Some, it appears, retiring journeys for the rest of their lives, hanging up their journey jerseys for the rest of their lives.

1:45:43Pat McAfee:Had a good time. Waste management seemed like a blast until you guys are yelling in people's backswings in extra holes.

1:45:50Adam Schefter:Plains flying over.

1:45:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, so what's going on?

1:45:54Adam Schefter:That was tough. The little shadow over Hideki's putt and then yelling in the backswing. We certainly wanted an American to win, clearly. We wanted an American to win.

1:46:04Pat McAfee:I don't like that that happened, though, because I'll tell you what, I like whenever people are able to have a good time and it be considered good. You know, this stuff, I think they're reviewing it as a negative to golf, where I think waste management is a good for golf. So, you know, there's little things that I think people, just like whenever we're watching Liv and they're playing music around the green, it's like, they got golf figured out. Probably shouldn't have a bunch of music just jamming as they're trying to drain a six-inch putt. It kind of takes away the tension that's potentially happening.

1:46:31Pat McAfee:The immediate sound, and it sounded like it was metal, like somebody dropped something metal-wise.

1:46:36Adam Schefter:They said some worker who was working at the event dropped like a chair or something.

1:46:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, and it was in the back swing, middle of back swing. It's like, that is what? The worst.

1:46:45Adam Schefter:The playoff hole.

1:46:45Pat McAfee:Yeah, in the playoff hole for a thing. That's like worst case scenario, I think, whenever it comes to like cooth stuff. So, you know, I like waste management. I haven't even had a chance to really go with it. No. But I'm a big fan of what it is. We're going to get you there. I would like you guys to keep it over there, though. So let's not, you know, let's not be. Yeah.

1:47:02Adam Schefter:He would have been a good champion. Yeah. What a putt my Goddard up, though. I mean, what a putt. It was unbelievable. He showed out.

1:47:10Pat McAfee:Yes, he certainly did. Was there a time when Scottie was going to go or no? Yeah, he hit a run. Oh, good for you guys.

1:47:17Darius Butler:He got to, what, 14 or 15? 15.

1:47:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, AJ texted me. He goes, Scottie's going to win this thing. And what you say. Yeah, right, brother. Wait until you see what we do. Watch this. We got a shadow gimmick we're going to do. We got a whole thing. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, AQ. You're the man. You guys are the best. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Q. Thank you. He was not happy with Thor. No, he wasn't. All right, one more. One more for AJ.

1:47:42AQ Shipley:Okay, awesome. AJ could probably help me with this was the AJ Barner touchdown. Tough, tough spot to be in as a linebacker. So, right here, pause it. Down and distance situation is always important when it comes to play calling. Right now you're up 12-0 for the Seattle Seahawks coming into the situation. So, now defensively you're probably thinking run the ball, Try to continue eating up clock. A little under 14 minutes left from the game. So first and 10, 12 personnel. You're thinking run. You let it play here. Watch all this communication that has to take place with these three players. And now pause it.

1:48:15AQ Shipley:All these players in here, they have run responsibilities as well. This safety, now he's on the tight end. He has a run responsibility, a run gap. This linebacker, he's also on the tight end, Barnard. He has a run gap. So if you have a good play action fake, you always talk about this element with quarterbacks too. especially quarterbacks that play a ton of under center and play action pass to Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady's when they have that action that can hide the ball do all the good things and it marries up with the pass game in the run game. It's a great weapon to get guys wide open, especially in this part of the field.

1:48:46AQ Shipley:So right here, boom, eyes are just in the wrong place. But I've been in that spot my second year. Actually, it was a specific play Monday night football. I believe the title was Keller against the Jets. They got me benched. 31 goal line situation. Eyes in the backfield, play action right over the head. You're the last person in the building to know what's coming. But see it from this back end.

1:49:07Michael Dickson:AJ, I know you've been in this situation a ton. Oh, yeah. See, they set this up. I think I sent it into the group chat. Somebody put them together where they showed the same kind of look and this motion. They ran outside zone, I don't know, two, three, four times before this in the game just setting this up because it's true. Look at that. If you're that outside backer, it happened on the fly too. Like you didn't get a good look pre-snap. It happens where all of a sudden they're putting the run fake directly in your face, and then you have this guy run the seven to the corner of the end zone, it just puts you in peril because you can't really play the run as physical as you'd like, and you have to play the pass here because this is what happens.

1:49:41Michael Dickson:It's just a beautiful play call, and they set it up throughout the game. But they also set it up because they were successful running the ball. If they would run the ball like garbage all night, maybe you get a better read, and you see this, and you don't let this play happen.

1:49:51Pat McAfee:Kubiak and Fernando are going to be awesome.

1:49:53Michael Dickson:Yeah.

1:49:54Pat McAfee:Kubiak might be the real, like, for real. Oh, yeah. You're talking about him setting it up and doing all this stuff. A lot of similar things to Ben.

1:50:01AQ Shipley:Sorry, go ahead. No, that one motion running back, just look how many people 51 just has to communicate with. Right now, he's on the safety. He's a linebacker. Now, he's talking to his safety. And right now, he's saying, hey, in and out with this linebacker. And he actually ends up doing the in and out with the safety over there. So, as a nickel, I've been in this situation a ton. So, right now, the in and out is now he's on the back. He's on the tight end. With this in and out, you're going to be on the outermost tight end. So, right now, they both have to. You've got to respect and honor the run fake, especially when the running back.

1:50:29AQ Shipley:It's not Kenny Walker in this situation, but the back, they've been gassing you, especially in those outside zones. You've got to honor the run pass and the honest play pass, and then you dial up wide open wide receivers and tight ends in this situation.

1:50:42Pat McAfee:Hey, thank you, Monday morning. Thank you, bud. I appreciate you.

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1:52:38Pat McAfee:We have a top five coming out of the Super Bowl as well that we need to hit. You know, AJ, we've been doing this every single Monday all season, have to do it for Super Overreaction Monday, although we felt like the game was probably going to take Both hours of conversation. We at least have our top five headlines coming out of Super Bowl. AJ, number five. Super special, special teams. Myers and Dixon pitch perfect game. Nothing really else needs to be said. Both historic in their own ways. Both historic in their own jobs. And both a necessity to the Seahawks winning a Super Bowl. AJ, your thoughts?

1:53:10Michael Dickson:Yeah, I'd say if you did not think that special teams, especially the punt, is a gigantic piece of football, You saw that last night, obviously, being perfect on field goals, but the punts just absolutely hamstring that Patriots offense. They had such a long field all night long.

1:53:24Pat McAfee:Jason Myers becomes first player in the history of ball to go more than 200 points in a season, including the playoffs. Shout out to him. He might be on pace to maybe pass Vinny in about 15 years. Maybe. He never misses this guy. But once again, he's in Seattle, so nobody really talks about him. And then Dixon being able to do what he did, he becomes the only punter this century to have two punts pinned inside the five in the Super Bowl or whatever. Huge, absolutely huge game for both of them. Let's go to number four. The sun rose today. Drake, may it not over? He's 23 years old. He did look like ass.

1:53:59Pat McAfee:That Seahawks defense did that to a lot of quarterbacks. I think he learns from this and moves forward. Connor, your thoughts on the sun coming up today?

1:54:06Adam Schefter:Yeah, no doubt about it. Using his fuel, I think, is what his message was to the rest of the team in the locker room last night with Mike Vrabel there as well. I think they'll be just fine.

1:54:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, and let's also remember number three headline, AJ. He's a rookie, and he had torn MCL. Will Campbell's supposed to be anchoring. He's 22 years old. He had torn MCL. He was in the Super Bowl. He was getting bodied a little bit. I think it's going to fuel him if anything we know about him is actual. Seems to be a dog. I'm excited for him this offseason.

1:54:33Adam Schefter:Yeah, and people are very matter-of-factly saying they're moving him inside. Let's give him an offseason. Maybe lift some weights, get a little stronger here, and then we'll see what happens.

1:54:40Pat McAfee:Number two headline, dark side domination. Is the next dynasty actually up in Seattle, AJ? Were we wrong about the coast?

1:54:48Michael Dickson:I mean, I think it's definitely possible. I know Shefty said they have some decisions they have to make. If they can keep this core intact, there's no reason why this Seattle Seahawks team can't be great for the next five, eight years.

1:54:57Pat McAfee:Incredible players, but McDonald will be able to find those for his system, you think? And so will Schneider?

1:55:01AQ Shipley:Young players, I'm sure they'll pay the right ones, but the most important hiring is going to be the next OC with Tim Donnell.

1:55:07Pat McAfee:And John Schneider went with the offense with Russell Wilson as opposed to Legion of Boom. What do they do this time with a defensive head coach whenever they have to make those decisions? We shall see you. Number one, Donald and McDonald, a match made by the football gods. Congratulations to them both. Changing narratives so quickly overnight about themselves. Sam Donald, hey, Super Bowl champion, Sam. Mike McDonald, Super Bowl champion, coach. Congratulations, boys. You can win the biggest game on earth. You can win the Super Bowl. You're both certified. Seahawks are legit. We can't thank football enough for what it did for us this season.

1:55:44Pat McAfee:We're so incredibly lucky and thankful that we get to do this for a living. It only happens because all of you watch. The season wraps up here on this glorious overreaction Monday. We'll be taking a couple weeks off. Okay? And when we come back, NFL Combine. Yeah. USA Baseball. What? Players Championship. What? Draft. What? Then football again. We're going to try and enjoy it all. we're so lucky that this is what our lives are. I think San Francisco proved that even more, and this past season has been majestic. You all are the greatest people on Earth. Thank you so much for letting us live this life.

1:56:18Pat McAfee:We'll see you in a couple weeks. Goodbye. Okay. Okay, happy for them. Nailed it. Happy. That was a good handoff. Yeah, it was. Great handoff. Goodbye.

1:56:28Michael Dickson:Yeah, SportsCenter. Who'd we hand to? SportsCenter.

1:56:31Pat McAfee:And they're doing the handoff. They're in Bristol. Yeah, then they hand it off. Yeah, so I think it was a good... We should have hammered that one more time. I think we should have known about it.

1:56:40Darius Butler:Would that have changed anything? How could you? Well, no, I mean, like, is this something the networks do every year? They're like, let's hand it off to whoever gets the next Super Bowl. I think it's the first time. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1:56:52Adam Schefter:Yeah, probably because it's stupid. No, it's not. It's a good way to announce that ESPN's got their Super Bowl. Yeah, no doubt. To your point, though, I can't remember. It might have been Friday after the show. We were in the elevator going to go to the lobby to get ready to go to the airport. And someone was like, you know, someone who works at ESPN, I can't remember who it was. They're like, you know, you guys leaving? We were like, yeah, you know, we're done for the week. It's great. Like, what are you doing? He's like, oh, I got to stick around through the game on Sunday and then fly to L.A.

1:57:23Adam Schefter:afterwards. You could tell it was, I mean, they were ready to get the hell out of there. And his work week was pretty much just starting. So, I mean, it's one of those things where, yeah, it would have been nice to be there to maybe either give the handoff or receive the handoff.

1:57:38Pat McAfee:I think we're enough people watching after the game, you know? Like, that's the thought of it. I like the thought of doing it here today, you know, like the entire thing today. I think that's a good idea. And also, Tariko goes immediately to Olympic coverage, so maybe the only coverage of ball, I guess, was Boomer on the field with his desk, electric, and then sending it over to SoFi after. I don't know. Hey, it's on ESPN this year. That's right. That's the thing. Next year, Super Bowl is on ESPN. It's a huge deal down there in Los Angeles.

1:58:09Adam Schefter:Massive deal. I don't think we knew the Super Bowl was on NBC until week eight, maybe. I feel like it was something at least I forgot constantly. Now, because of this handoff gimmick, I will know that the Super Bowl was on NBC. Boom, boom. So it worked. Yeah, it was on NBC until we had Tariqo on.

1:58:25Darius Butler:What's that? I didn't know it was on NBC until we had Tariqo on last week or two weeks ago.

1:58:28Pat McAfee:I will say, I also potentially got a heads up and immediately was like, oh, we should probably talk to Mike if he's calling the Super Bowl. And then the next day he was like on. So pretty recent for me as well because it is a big deal. Super Bowl, who knows what these numbers are going to be. And this had the least amount of stars outside of the football world, least amount of buzz, I think, outside the football world. The only real conversation outside of football was Bad Bunny. This guy speaking not our language. What? fuck that telling me me i watch football all year telling me i need download duo fucking lingo okay to enjoy that was the conversation yeah outside of the super bowl it wasn't like a 23 year old quarterback drake may back with the new england patriots and mike frable back at the team that he won a super bowl with caught some touchdowns made a lot of tackles with recharging an entire fan base mike mcdonald very unique character who also is a defensive head coach who seemingly a mastermind, Sam Darnold Revenge.

1:59:28Pat McAfee:Instead, he heard people from New York be like... Sam Darnold, guy's not good at football. He's like, no, he is good at football. It's like, no, I grew up in Jersey. He sucks. He fucking stinks at football. I don't follow football much, but I know Sam Darnold, ass at football. That is what I know. It's like, no, he's in a Super Bowl. He might win. Okay. Okay. It's like people outside of ball were struggling to find things to latch on to. Now, I assume, because it is the Super Bowl, all those people that were struggling to latch on still turned on a game.

2:00:03Adam Schefter:Yes.

2:00:04Pat McAfee:So I assume the number will still be gigantic. And now, what was the stay rate? What was the stay rate? Probably not great. Yeah, I assume there was a lot of, ah, okay.

2:00:13Michael Dickson:And they were saying the game was over, like, in the end of the second quarter if you went up 12-0. That doesn't help, I guess.

2:00:18Pat McAfee:I'll tell you, they hit another field goal and make this thing less than a two-score game. It's over. It's like 70 % of the games this year were comebacks or something like that. I think that's what Roger Goodell said at his press conference, you know, because he was asked about some sort of something. And I think it was like 70 % of the games had comebacks this year, blah, blah, blah. We had this amount of one-score games, everything like that. Second quarter, look at the way this is looking. I'll tell you, they score another safety. They get two more points here. They turn this thing to 11-zip.

2:00:50Pat McAfee:That's about all she wrote. I mean, this thing's about, which is how it felt with the Seattle Seahawks. which I think was a compliment to the Seahawks defense. And it ended up being pretty real, although Drake won for 235 in the fourth.

2:01:01Adam Schefter:And the 12-0, like I mentioned earlier at the beginning, 12-0 felt worse than 28-3 against the Falcons. But I think the reason I, in particular, I'm the only one in here really that doesn't like Collinsworth, the reason is we have guys like Greg Olson and J.J. Watt who are just number two boosts that should be in primetime. That is my big gripe. And then when you get a stinker like that on there and you get a lot of, I got nothing. It's like, okay, well, that's not what you're there for.

2:01:33Pat McAfee:I think CC knows that Connor has been, I assume, Patriots fans as a whole.

2:01:37Adam Schefter:I don't think it's – sure, I did see some people who are Patriots fans like, Chris Collinsworth hates the Patriots. I don't think that's the truth. You mentioned all the time with Joe Buck. If you call a bunch of big moments, especially with the Patriots, that being his sixth Super Bowl, I don't know how many times he called the Patriots to a ball. I'm assuming, what, that was four? Three? Four? I don't know.

2:01:56Pat McAfee:The calling game is hard to make people like it because what some people like, obviously other people don't, and ball touches so many different people. It's an interesting dynamic there. Kid Rock really brought it.

2:02:07Adam Schefter:He did. Did you see Bob Ritchie? Yeah, Kid and Bob. Yeah, yeah. Robert.

2:02:12Pat McAfee:Did you see Bob? Yeah. I didn't see a whole lot. What's that?

2:02:16Michael Dickson:I didn't see a whole lot. What did he do? Was it like a Chris Gaines situation, Garth Brooks? What do you mean?

2:02:20Pat McAfee:Well, there was a string duo. I don't know. So, Bad Bunny, San Benito wraps up, and then all of a sudden it's like, all right, what's going on over here? It's actually perfect timing. It was exact timing for ball with the ball. It went straight to ball with the ball.

2:02:35Darius Butler:I don't know if he was singing.

2:02:36Pat McAfee:You got it from one to two? The mic was on. San Benito was singing. No, no, no. Kid Rock was. That's what I heard. Hey, he was definitely singing.

2:02:44Darius Butler:He was. Yeah, they always sing live.

2:02:45Adam Schefter:I'm not sure.

2:02:46Michael Dickson:Kid Rock was.

2:02:47Pat McAfee:I'm betting Bad Bunny sang. I think Bad Bunny sang.

2:02:49Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah, for sure.

2:02:50Pat McAfee:And I think the guy that was on the – I think he played.

2:02:54Adam Schefter:That was awesome.

2:02:55Pat McAfee:So that's the first time, I think, because normally Super Bowl shit, nobody plays. Right. Feels like Bad Bunny said, I would like to sing, and they also – it felt like they – Eddie Gaga? I might be wrong. The guy was singing. Ricky Martin was definitely singing. Because Super Bowl halftime shows, normally, all lip sync, not allowed to do anything. Hey, this is how much we're paying. You're not allowed to –

2:03:13Michael Dickson:Because it's time to the exact second. Like, everything is time perfect. Boom.

2:03:16Pat McAfee:Feels like Bad Bunny was like, nah, we're – And he went through the table. We're doing this. Yeah, and fell off the thing.

2:03:22AQ Shipley:Yeah. Oh, yeah, into the living room. Yeah, that was. Yeah, there's a lot of show.

2:03:25Pat McAfee:I mean, showman. This fucking guy, I don't know what he, I wish I knew what he was saying. But it was an incredible show. And as soon as he wraps up, they get a commercial. All of a sudden, ball with the bar, the bang, the dang, diggy, diggy, diggy. He said, the bogey said up, jump, the bogey. And then full on. I don't know what, he must have, he had a wrist. He had a wrist. Yeah, was he hurt? Or was that for fashion? Didn't slow him down. We had four mic flips about 30 seconds. Unbelievable. And every time he looked at it, it was like, yeah, you got it.

2:03:53Adam Schefter:Still got it.

2:03:54Pat McAfee:Then he, yeah. So I didn't see the whole thing. But I would say this. Bad Bunny seemingly went out there and did what he wanted to do. You know? Yeah. This is all my shit. Yeah.

2:04:05Adam Schefter:And I appreciate that. And the Easter eggs in there were really cool. Like, I guess knowing he took that shot from the lady at the bar, I guess that lady who is standing behind the bar owns a very famous restaurant in New York for like the last 40 years. And she's from Puerto Rico. The kid that he gave the Grammy to, I guess, was in a situation where he was detained. How about the – no, I don't think so.

2:04:28Pat McAfee:The people out front of the shed. There was an entire shed thing. I did see that. Oh, Pedro? It wasn't – Pedro. Okay. Yeah.

2:04:35Adam Schefter:Yeah, the baseball player Acuna.

2:04:38Pat McAfee:That guy's Fontainebleau guy. Obviously, Cardi B. Yeah. There's Pedro. Pedro Pascal. Pedro Pascal, yeah.

2:04:44Adam Schefter:Jessica Alba. Yes.

2:04:46Pat McAfee:Fascinating. You know, all the different thoughts. Because why not? What'd you say?

2:04:51AQ Shipley:What did you just say? You said a lot of what? No, a lot of good dancing. There was a lot of dancing. There was a lot of good dancing. A lot of dancing.

2:04:58Pat McAfee:It feels like there was a lot of dancing. Yeah, I got it. Kid Rock. Kid Rock, immediately after this, debuted a remix to a Cody Johnson song, I believe. It's going to be available soon. Telling people they can accept Jesus Crush. Is there anything we can change?

2:05:11AQ Shipley:Boom.

2:05:12Pat McAfee:I feel like both parties got accomplished what they wanted to get accomplished.

2:05:15Adam Schefter:Positive night. And both parties got slaughtered for it.

2:05:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, it did feel like that.

2:05:20Adam Schefter:It did feel like that.

2:05:22Pat McAfee:That's politics football. And I say, man, it'd be really cool to understand Spanish right now. You fucking piece of shit. You watched it. Move to Mexico land, damn it. Then the other side of it. You don't fucking know Spanish, you fucking stupid piece of shit. What, you don't want to go to Mexico? Why don't you stop being a racist, you fucking prick? Learn Spanish. It's like, mucho es gracias, mi amigo. I'm trying. Okay, I fucking hate. Okay, my brain ain't set up for it. Fucking trying. Learn Spanish. Fucking asshole. Know who also crushed it? What, dude? I'm trying. And then the other side, hating that I'm even watching it.

2:05:59Pat McAfee:It's like, what is your problem? What are we doing here? Can we not?

2:06:02Adam Schefter:A hell of a show. It was a spectacle. And I feel like that's what the Super Bowl halftime should be. They made a big deal when The Weeknd did it a couple years ago, and the gimmicks he did was like, this kind of sucks. I get it, but it isn't. Say what you want. I agree. I didn't understand a single word he said, but that was a spectacle that was in line with what the Super Bowl is.

2:06:27Pat McAfee:And how about the show not ending weirdly? Normally, the show ends weirdly, and there's lights out, and then they go, that was the halftime show. This one was them walking off with a banger playing. That was a cool way to end. That was a cool way. I thought it was really...

2:06:40Darius Butler:Security guard got a real face in the camera at the end here.

2:06:44Michael Dickson:Yeah.

2:06:49Pat McAfee:So you know what? Fuck it. I want a French speaking next year. Let's go. Let's just learn them all. Okay. That's not a bad idea. Let's just learn all the languages. I tried high school. Yeah. Oh, shit. We're coming. We're leaving. How many million? All of them. Okay. Let me get out of the way. Shoulder pads on. Maybe he was going to hit somebody. Somebody sent this to Jamar Chase.

2:07:07Adam Schefter:Yeah.

2:07:07Pat McAfee:You're right. Because shoulder pads and full pads might be in fashion-wise. Exactly. And we wanted him to be ahead of the game. Yeah. Imagine him clacking down the runway. That'd be awesome. Clackity-clackity-clack. The best. Click-clack, click-clack. Maybe Under Armour. Yeah.

2:07:22Adam Schefter:AJ could voice it over, maybe. Oh, my God.

2:07:24Pat McAfee:Now we're talking. Is Under Armour doing it still? Oh, yeah. Are they? Big time. I don't know. I haven't seen a lot of them.

2:07:30AQ Shipley:Oh, JJ. Justin Jefferson's doing it, right?

2:07:33Pat McAfee:Is he?

2:07:34AQ Shipley:Justin Jefferson?

2:07:35Pat McAfee:They got rid of what? Steph, right?

2:07:37AQ Shipley:Yeah. Yeah, Steph.

2:07:38Adam Schefter:He's doing his own things.

2:07:39Pat McAfee:Is The Rock still doing his stuff with him?

2:07:41Michael Dickson:I believe so. Still has them all in Dick's Sporting Goods, yeah, the whole section. Not that. Bad Bunny, you guys talked about it. His ball security is the first thing I noticed. I said, all right, attention to detail. He talked to somebody. It was high and tight. How about the spike? Yeah, spike was much better, too. I was hoping it wasn't like a gosling situation like the video I saw. What are you talking about? He played a corner.

2:08:03Pat McAfee:I'll let you guys know, that gosling situation, not good.

2:08:06Michael Dickson:He's a corner. Not good at all.

2:08:07Pat McAfee:I understand he was great on the Titans. He's a quick rich cannon.

2:08:11Adam Schefter:He's Canadian. That's kind of what I, you know.

2:08:16Pat McAfee:He grabbed by the middle of football first. He did. He grabbed by the laces. It's like, okay.

2:08:23Adam Schefter:But you see how far he threw it? Fucking hummed it.

2:08:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, and then he was in boots too. He dragged his foot kind of weird. Check this out, bitch.

2:08:30Adam Schefter:Watch how far this son of a bitch goes. Oh, wow. Still going. That's only the second time I've seen that. That is bad.

2:08:35Pat McAfee:No, it's good because he actually leads.

2:08:37Michael Dickson:I'll watch it again.

2:08:38Pat McAfee:I don't think it was good. It's going to run again here. Yeah, automatically.

2:08:41Michael Dickson:I love Gosling, too. This is tough to see. The movie's going to be awesome.

2:08:44Pat McAfee:Hail Mary, baby. Oh, man.

2:08:47Darius Butler:Five-time conference player of the week. At DB.

2:08:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly. At DB. Bust his butt for you. He's not supposed to be a quarterback. They need to put him outside.

2:08:58Adam Schefter:And they benched his ass, too, if you remember. He was getting beat like he stole something. Oh, my God. Yeah, and then what happened?

2:09:03Michael Dickson:Yeah, Deebo, what do you think?

2:09:04AQ Shipley:I mean, every time I see it, I see just a different thing.

2:09:08Michael Dickson:Yep. Watch again. It's all right.

2:09:10Pat McAfee:He was getting beat like it's double or something. Bruce actually used that in a text this morning with Hembo. Hembo gave Will Campbell's entire stats to us that he sent over into the group. And it was like this amount of pressures, this amount of blah, blah, blah. He gave up two interceptions. He also did this with a fumble. And Bruce goes, yeah, he was getting beat like he stole something, but he didn't throw two picks. And Hembo follows up with, like, well, actually, the person that causes the pressure that leads to the interception, we account for also in our stats or whatever. Will Campbell, the problem, basically, is what he said this morning.

2:09:46Pat McAfee:Is that not right, Bruce?

2:09:47Adam Schefter:Yeah, and also, like, we were watching on NFL Pro, the actual interception sack where it was Witherspoon coming off the other edge. So while Will Campbell, like, sort of does give up a pressure, it wasn't his pressure that, you know, caused that exact interception. run the play no one does it Drake May is backing up to the left sure if you're going to where the guy is going to be

2:10:12AQ Shipley:that's the fucking problem right there that's the problem with that not this play to love what we just talked about AQ just went through the whole protection if it's on the center or the quarterback the coach as well you got to have your young quarterback ready to have so that's Will Campbell this is crazy He has to move left because he's getting close.

2:10:33Pat McAfee:Listen, the stats people say, get him out of there. He had nowhere to go. You're a left tackle. That's what the stats people are saying. Yeah, it was awesome. You should have seen Bruce. The follow-up text from Bruce to Hembo going, it was getting beat like he stole his own. He didn't throw two picks. Like, what are we doing here?

2:10:52Adam Schefter:We got to get to the bottom of pressures, and we got to figure out EPA like a better way to, you know, almost contextualize it.

2:10:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, DVOA.

2:11:01Adam Schefter:I'm out on all of them.

2:11:03AQ Shipley:All of them? Wins and losses. Every acronym. EPOA, DVOA, EPA.

2:11:11Michael Dickson:You know what they mean?

2:11:12Pat McAfee:What do they all mean? EPA, that's Environmental Protection Agency. Bingo.

2:11:16Michael Dickson:Yeah, that's true.

2:11:17Pat McAfee:That's how your offensive line does every single year. DVOA, that's where you get your license.

2:11:22Michael Dickson:Yes. Yeah.

2:11:23Pat McAfee:Right? Always online. Always not efficient at all. So you don't want to be good at that one, I don't think. No.

2:11:29Darius Butler:Actually, the one down here, not bad. I went there last week. It was very efficient. Yeah, very good, actually.

2:11:35Pat McAfee:I would like to say, congratulations.

2:11:36Darius Butler:Number one branch in the state. I was just there as well, in and out.

2:11:39Pat McAfee:I legit do not doubt it. No. They got a fleet.

2:11:44Darius Butler:Now, they had a lot of questions they shouldn't have been asking, but.

2:11:47Adam Schefter:Yeah, I had to take that driver's test like five times to get my Indiana license. Stuff test. Fucking suck. Like a written test? Like the one on the screen. Multiple choice. Yeah, what are they asking you?

2:11:58Michael Dickson:Just to get another license.

2:12:00Pat McAfee:How many feet before a red light are you starting to hit your brakes?

2:12:03Adam Schefter:Yeah, what's this sign mean that I've never seen? I haven't registered in my car in three years, and they have questions about it.

2:12:08Pat McAfee:How many feet are you two-stopped behind a stop sign? It's like three feet, six feet, one foot, ten feet. It's like, ooh. What? Interesting. I don't know. Let me pull up that fucking thing I've been doing for 20 fucking years.

2:12:21Adam Schefter:How about whatever it takes not to get into an accident? Yeah.

2:12:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, STOP, I guess. Where's that off? I don't know. How many drinks? No, I'm kidding. Well, how many beers have I had? Can't do that now. What, I've had three or four beers and gum behind the wheel? I'm just kidding. That's one of my favorite parts of the show. Especially with Uber and... Waymo. Waymo is crazy. Waymo. Waymo is crazy. I don't think they have them here.

2:12:46Adam Schefter:Nope, not yet. They can't have them here. One of these fucking hicks runs into one of those things. That car's getting torn off.

2:12:53Darius Butler:One of these potholes would take out all of them. Yeah, you're right.

2:12:56Pat McAfee:I didn't even think about them. Do-do-do-do-do. bang!

2:12:59Darius Butler:In the snow. And then

2:13:00Pat McAfee:next one, bang! And then bang! That's actually at the end of that one show where all the Teslas start crashing into each other. Ah, the movie. It came out, yes. It was on Apple, maybe? It wasn't Don't Look Up. Netflix. It was Netflix.

2:13:14Darius Butler:Produced by the Obamas. I can't remember what the name of it was though.

2:13:17Pat McAfee:Because the Obamas, President Obama and Michelle Obama, because they produced it, we all thought to ourselves, they know something. Yeah, well, they know. And then the Teslas were all just kind of rolling by. You remember this, AJ? Do you remember this thing?

2:13:31Michael Dickson:Yeah, I didn't see the movie. I remember hearing all the hubbub. Leave the world behind?

2:13:34Pat McAfee:Leave the world behind. Yeah, that one freaked me out a little bit.

2:13:37Michael Dickson:Was it good?

2:13:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, it got me. It wasn't bad. I watched it for a little bit, but it was kind of trippy on what they can do. You would assume somebody could do if they wanted to, just like we learned with the fucking cameras. Exactly. How about that age?

2:13:53Michael Dickson:I mean, that's scary. Yeah. I don't know. Is it worth saving one or two dogs to spy on the whole planet? Is it worth your privacy? Eight dogs a day, AJ. I don't know. Is it worth sopping the Joker to save Gotham City, AJ? I don't know.

2:14:11Pat McAfee:That's right. I haven't seen that one either.

2:14:12Michael Dickson:I'm sorry. I don't know.

2:14:15Pat McAfee:Is that Heath Ledger? That was a crazy, yes. That was a crazy, rest in peace. That was a crazy ad. Yeah. Like that angle. Because the amount of people that had to approve that. And I would like to say to the ad agencies, let's pick it up, okay? You bums.

2:14:30Darius Butler:Yeah.

2:14:31Pat McAfee:Okay? You're a part of the fucking thing. Have a brain, okay? You guys just cover your ass so much all year, you don't even know that people are expecting you to be good at your gigs whenever it comes to the Super Bowl of commercials. Let's go. Let's go ahead and do this thing. Let's make sure that we are adding entertainment value and not just wasting a check from a company that doesn't know that we don't know what the fuck we're doing. And we needed them last night. We did because the game was ass. Yeah. And what do we get? Oh, you got a spine on our dogs. Exactly.

2:14:59Adam Schefter:That's crazy. There wasn't one person at that table like, you think people are going to have a fucking problem with this? Or no?

2:15:06Pat McAfee:No, we're saving dogs. Shut the fuck up. Put a gold retriever up there. They love gold retrievers. People love dogs. I'm surprised. Aren't we all?

2:15:16Adam Schefter:Yeah. Oh, wow. What wasn't in one of those?

2:15:20Pat McAfee:Yeah, Peter wasn't. Oh, wow. That would be the.

2:15:23Adam Schefter:Oh, yeah. That would be the dog. If I saw Peter on my TV last night, it was getting broken. What if it was a part of the ring we're watching you? I mean, if it was...

2:15:35Pat McAfee:Every step in time.

2:15:38Michael Dickson:Yeah, with Ben. The original.

2:15:41Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly.

2:15:42Michael Dickson:Missy. Yes, the original. Of course. Yes. It's still creepy, though. Where's that guy at? Is he out of jail? Yeah, which version of the song was that?

2:15:51Pat McAfee:Sting.

2:15:52Michael Dickson:Oh. Yeah, Sting.

2:15:54Adam Schefter:Come on, dude.

2:15:55Michael Dickson:He has intercourse for like 12 hours in a time, he says. What's that? You know that about Sting? That's his thing. He can, you know. Sting's thing. He can, you know, go at it for 8, 9, 10, 12 hours. Tantric. You know that about Sting, you said to me. You do. It's a thing. It's been Sting for a long time. I don't know. I did not know that.

2:16:15Pat McAfee:I did not. Believe it or not, I genuinely did not know that.

2:16:18Adam Schefter:That's his fucking thing. Everyone knows that.

2:16:19Pat McAfee:You know, Sting talks seven-hour tantic sex with Trudy Starler. All right.

2:16:23Adam Schefter:One person. One woman.

2:16:25Pat McAfee:It's his wife, yeah. That's Sting? I think he's talking in the interview of this person. Or is it he? I give tantric sex. He's a spiritual act. Oh, he's finding DMT in there. Six, six hours in there. He's on his own journey. King Kong twice.

2:16:40Adam Schefter:Good luck. Yes, sir.

2:16:48Michael Dickson:Was there any good commercials? Did you like any of them? B.A. Budweiser had a good one, I think. B.A.

2:16:55Adam Schefter:was good. Budweiser. Yeah. B.A. was good. Thought the Duncan was good.

2:16:58Michael Dickson:The throwback with all the characters from Friends, maybe. I don't know what it was. I like that. Yeah, that was good.

2:17:04Adam Schefter:That Duncan, good. That Goodwill Duncan.

2:17:06Michael Dickson:Duncan was good.

2:17:07Adam Schefter:The Bud Light one was, you know. Shane picking them. Yeah. Good post. It was good. Yeah.

2:17:12Pat McAfee:Good. Cool. Whenever you see up there, you're like, oh, we know those people. Oh, they clearly wrote this, too.

2:17:18Michael Dickson:Mm-hmm.

2:17:18Pat McAfee:Good for them. Cheese. Yeah, exactly. Inspo. Yeah, that was a good idea. Yeah, great idea. Good play. Ben Affleck looking as young as he looked was crazy.

2:17:27Adam Schefter:Yeah, all of them. The guy from Cheers as well. Is that AI, we think?

2:17:32Pat McAfee:Yes. So AI can make us young. AI can't tell me what Bad Bunny's saying, though, whenever he's singing his songs right in front of me and I'm trying to dance to this thing.

2:17:41Adam Schefter:That's where they draw the line. Interesting enough, I do believe there is a thing now with the AirPods, right, where it can translate. it can actively translate for you. Oh my God, I should have plugged in. Right. I think there is.

2:17:53Michael Dickson:But whose voice is doing it? Is it just some random guy not singing the music, the song? Yeah, probably.

2:17:59Pat McAfee:I wouldn't want it. You wouldn't want San Benito?

2:18:01AQ Shipley:I wouldn't want it. What about, did you watch, what was that Korean game show?

2:18:06Pat McAfee:Squid Game? Squid Game. Did you have that dubbed? What did you do Korean? Oh, I had it dubbed into English. A lot of people were mad at me because it got rid of the incredible acting of the people that were speaking the language.

2:18:17AQ Shipley:Game shows, I can do the dub. If it's like a real series or like a good movie, I would rather hear their voices and read the translation. Yeah. So like what was the thing on HBO Max? Japanese. The Russian.

2:18:31Adam Schefter:Japanese. You're thinking Chernobyl, that was good. No, you're thinking of Shoga. Yeah, Shoga. Boom.

2:18:35AQ Shipley:So like that show, I want to hear their voices. Did you, Chernobyl, did you watch that? Nah.

2:18:40Adam Schefter:Oh, that's so good. It was so dark, though. Yeah, very dark. Yeah, you have to watch it at night.

2:18:45Pat McAfee:So I need facial expressions. I need to be able to... So I'm captioning everything, by the way.

2:18:51AQ Shipley:Me too.

2:18:51Pat McAfee:I have captions on everything.

2:18:53AQ Shipley:I just hate seeing the mouth and it being off. So what was the big heist one that was on for a while? I think it was called Heist, yeah. Boom. It was Spanish, yeah. It was tough for me to really get into it.

2:19:03Pat McAfee:See, I dub it right into English, and I suspend reality. And I just go, yep, they all suck. Yep, not the best, I guess, voiceover actors, but hey, we're doing it. I just need to know what's going on. If I'm not paying attention, I'd like to hear what's going on. but captions, I think internet has turned me into that I think internet has turned me into captions for everything type stuff I'm not the biggest reader but I found myself It's so hard not to just read the captions The whole time I'm not even paying attention It makes you a better reader A lot of people get on their phones I've seen during last night's game

2:19:35Michael Dickson:A lot of

2:19:39Pat McAfee:There's so many three and us Oh he's done That was a really good show Let me see what they got going on Ball with the ball.

2:19:46Darius Butler:This is what I'm talking about.

2:19:51Pat McAfee:They have like four, five, six million concurrence. Yeah. That's a huge, huge number on YouTube. Wow. Don't want to get the name right. TP USA. Turning Point USA. Okay. Guys, please, come on. I'm just trying. Take it easy. Take it easy. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying. Okay. Golly.

2:20:15Michael Dickson:A lot going on out there. Sports.

2:20:18Adam Schefter:Just trying to enjoy it, baby. All right, let's do that.

2:20:22Michael Dickson:Let's get the hell out of here.

2:20:24Pat McAfee:AJ, great year this year, AJ.

2:20:26Michael Dickson:Great year, fellas. It was awesome. Super Bowl week was amazing, honestly. I didn't know what to expect going into San Fran. San Fran was awesome. Awesome hanging out with everybody. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.

2:20:36Pat McAfee:Shout out to Chef Michael Mina, Adrian, and Vanessa at International Smoke. It was a good time. They didn't even serve breakfast. They just made us a brunch every single day and opened a restaurant for us. Like, thank you so much. That was cool. I guess that's a Michelin. He's a Michelin man. I don't doubt it. I guess that's – it was unbelievable.

2:20:55Michael Dickson:I had 30 pounds of eggs over the week. I probably had 85 scrambled eggs maybe.

2:20:59Darius Butler:Ty said San Fran is the most Michelin-star restaurants of any city in the country.

2:21:03Adam Schefter:In the U.S., I believe. Yeah.

2:21:04Pat McAfee:I only saw one. Well, that's a couple times. That's more than most people are getting.

2:21:08Adam Schefter:I would imagine getting into those restaurants Super Bowl week is next to impossible.

2:21:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, so shout out to Adrian. Shout out to Chef Michael Mina. Shout out to Vanessa there for taking care of us. But you're right. San Francisco for us was great.

2:21:18Michael Dickson:You know, it was cool to see everybody. We walked everywhere. We walked everywhere, day, night, whenever. Yeah, the weather.

2:21:23Pat McAfee:AJ, please. Okay, I opened up talking about it. I didn't open up talking about it, but we did talk about it at some point where people, you know, were telling us that we were living some high society life in San Francisco and getting pampered, you know, potentially at some different points, you know, that was happening outside the city or maybe inside a radio road to get in and out if I have something to do or whatever. but we're in those streets. We're in those streets. Morning, very early morning. Night, we're in those, in the afternoon. We're walking. A lot of walking, AJ. Part of our journey.

2:21:50Michael Dickson:It was great. It was great. We all had our own journey. We walked everywhere we went. It didn't matter what time. We definitely saw a couple interesting characters, but for the most part, it was all good. It was a city.

2:22:03Pat McAfee:A cleaner city that I've been in. I think that's a much cleaner city than I have been in. It was. There were certainly some parts that are city-like.

2:22:11Michael Dickson:There were some turds. There were some wet turds. We had to dodge. But, you know, that's a city.

2:22:15Adam Schefter:Yeah, Gertie stepped in human poop, like, right off the bat.

2:22:18Pat McAfee:Are we blaming Dirty for the awareness of the poop, or is he so focused on other things?

2:22:23Adam Schefter:A little bit of both, but it was more so how liquidy the poop was. That was, like, shocking.

2:22:28Pat McAfee:Probably some sort of soup dieters. Yeah. You got some, too.

2:22:32AQ Shipley:I had some guy who put that down there. Oh, yeah. And ears. And ears. He was a bad guy. Oh, boy. Bad guy. And ears. Hey, you're going to have those. You're going to have those.

2:22:40Pat McAfee:Few and far between. Yeah. I would say. We did not expect that. Guy sleeping back in the middle of the intersection. Middle of the afternoon, screaming his ass off, saying terrible things. Yep, that bad guy. AJ gives a speech to D-Butch. Half block away from this guy. AJ. Hawk eye, literally. About 10 o 'clock up there. I don't know if you see it. 10 p.m. on the clock. Got a real piece of shit it sounds like. Isn't that what you said, basically, AJ?

2:23:09Michael Dickson:Well, when I saw a gentleman that was just wearing a sleeping bag on his lower half, roaming around yelling at people from about 80 yards out, I told D. My dad told me, don't ever mess with somebody that has nothing to lose. And we figured that out as we got closer. Yes, that guy didn't have much to lose, it seems like.

2:23:23Pat McAfee:And he was certainly saying a lot of shit to you. I appreciate your professionalism. I don't know.

2:23:28AQ Shipley:It is what it is. Part of it. That guy was on a journey.

2:23:32Darius Butler:He had a full Pantera back tattoo.

2:23:34AQ Shipley:He looks like he's been on a journey for a while. Yeah, he's actually lost out there. He's never coming back. He's lost. He's gone. He's in peace.

2:23:42Pat McAfee:But there wasn't as many as that that I think.

2:23:43AQ Shipley:No, the expectation was.

2:23:45Pat McAfee:It was nice, man. It was, hey, it was nice. It was so nice that someone, someone that was kind of there

2:23:54AQ Shipley:thought they might have been all paid actors. You know what? Who said that? Good point. I need those.

2:24:02Michael Dickson:Everybody in the city. It's too nice. What the hell is going on?

2:24:05AQ Shipley:It could be.

2:24:06Pat McAfee:I was told three seconds

2:24:07AQ Shipley:hey alright hey Pat alright

2:24:09Pat McAfee:yeah alright me and D-butt me and D-butt were told by a person that we encountered in San Francisco that was walking with us for a portion of our journey once again we were walking a lot of places met up with a lot of people while we were walking where are you headed we're headed this way I go city's nice don't you think first time seeing that person it's all bullshit I saw your little tweet thing I'm like what was that I saw you talk about how nice this is I'm like it's what's not nice about this like literally we're like what's not nice about this and the answer was you think this is real

2:24:42Pat McAfee:yeah i i think so like we are this is real they street sweep this thing here's the nicest this city has looked it's like cool so hey uh i want to let that let them know they did it great and i was like but it's very active you know so if it was just like for today would all these people seemingly have these routines of jogging and walking and running and dog and everything feels like these people are pretty comfortable with like what they're doing or whatever he goes all actors i'm like what what this whole city is actors go yeah just around you you fucking and you fell for it immediately you fucking went out there hey this is active this is nice fucking they're setting you up mark like that that's what we were told we lost it i i mean i laughed maybe maybe three minutes straight whenever i i fucking lost it and it's like well if that's case, they did a great job.

2:25:33Pat McAfee:They got us. They got us. It was an unbelievable time. D-Buck, great season. Everything DB, good D, bad D. Monday morning, DC. Phenomenal workout. Thank you for traveling so much.

2:25:47AQ Shipley:No problem, bro. Thank you. Love being here.

2:25:49Pat McAfee:He travels. He does. Because that shit's way down there. Way down there. And Philly's way over there. Life's better when he's in the

2:25:56Darius Butler:office.

2:25:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, you are great. Thank you, guys. You are really, really good. We're very, very thankful for you. Tone, incredible year, buddy. Hey, baby, Tony. Hey, Tony. Hey, Tony. Hammer.

2:26:06Adam Schefter:Don. Don. What? That was Tony. That was Tony. He does that to the Don sometimes. What'd I do? Well, he thinks it's maybe become a mockery.

2:26:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, gimmick, yeah. So he's trying to ruin it so we don't do it anymore. Yep. Just know that we'll never stop with hammer. Don. Okay, great year out of you, bud. Thank you. How about you ending with a 3-1 record on Tone's plays of the day? Not bad. That's a pretty good way to head in there.

2:26:26Darius Butler:Oh, yeah, it would have been 4-0 if Seahawks didn't, you know, just dominate and they didn't need to throw the ball at the end at all.

2:26:32Pat McAfee:Why? Because you picked Sam?

2:26:33Darius Butler:Yeah, to go over.

2:26:34Adam Schefter:Two hunch? 220 or something like that. Oh, damn. I mean, JSN going down, too. What happened with him? Yeah, a concussion and an ankle and tape on his foot or some shit.

2:26:45Pat McAfee:Yeah, the back of his ankle was being taped, and then he went in there, and then he said concussion people were looking at him. It's like, ooh, I don't like to hear that at all. But it turns out, Seahawks the win, sir. Yep. Great work, Tone. Great college football season as well. a lot of you. Appreciate that. You crushed it. Talk Stable, boys. What can I say? Both your teams were in it. Biggest trade of the entire season. You represented it to a lot of people, let alone the pick at the draft. And then UConn, man, a resurgence of a team having to take it in the shins by a lot of people as the asshole on a microphone.

2:27:17Pat McAfee:You guys at Talk Stable should be incredibly proud of this season. Appreciate it. In the back, hey, I think you guys got better this year. I think it was evident. Don't you think, Foxy? Yeah, I agree. Definitely got better. A lot of room for improvement, though. I like that. A lot of room. I like that. We'll figure that all out as we go, obviously. I think you guys should be incredibly proud of the program that you guys put out every single day. Go work back there behind the glass. Good season, boys. Graphic design, boys. Go work, boys. Go work, boys. Artists. Yeah? Yeah. How about Mitt picking up a new job last week?

2:27:51Adam Schefter:Hell yeah. He was really good at it. Oh, he was.

2:27:54Pat McAfee:Pickle ball.

2:27:55Adam Schefter:she's good. Fuck yeah. So good. She's saying best ever. And she brought like eight paddles for everybody. I think we should probably get her up there. Should I take the paddles? Okay, we'll do it.

2:28:11Pat McAfee:She's kind of on my ass.

2:28:13Adam Schefter:She said right now.

2:28:17Pat McAfee:Good job, man. And a big day. Zito, great work, Zito. Great season, Zito. great season Zito doing something everything and to the fans thank you for rocking with us hell of a season

2:28:31AQ Shipley:great season by you and you too man thank you thank you game day all of it all cast yeah

2:28:39Adam Schefter:a bunch of all cast game day to the all cast yeah those are pretty crazy times yeah

2:28:44Michael Dickson:the game day down walking through the stands with like a you know five seconds to go to air to the all cast that's the best nobody else is doing that

2:28:52Pat McAfee:those are good times there those are good times I saw Tariqo last night go from game to Olympic show on field. I thought that was sick. I really appreciate that. You know, you've seen a couple quick turnovers. The running by – from hosting to – Rutledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those moments are cool because in the brain while you're doing it, it's like, okay, nothing matters that I just did at all. Like literally nothing matters at all. So there's not even a moment of like, hey, that was a fun show. Yeah. Hey, that was a fun show. Hey, when you said this, that was really cool or whatever. Then it's just like immediately like, nope, does not matter.

2:29:27Pat McAfee:We got to move forward. Those are fun times. Lucky and thankful to get to do it.

2:29:30AQ Shipley:Got to prep for him too, though. Yeah.

2:29:32Pat McAfee:The music as well. That's the grind.

2:29:34Adam Schefter:Music is crazy. That's crazy that that's happening. You're out. I guess Ari, you know, he let the cat out of the bag. He did. He did. Thank you. Tulsa King. That was great.

2:29:46Pat McAfee:Thank you, Ty. Thank you, Ty.

2:29:48Darius Butler:And you're running the entire business.

2:29:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's pretty fun, man. And you gave away a lot of money this year.

2:29:55Darius Butler:Well, we don't need to keep doing that. Yeah, agreed.

2:29:58Pat McAfee:Especially if you go all the way back to Big Night Out included. It was a lot of money.

2:30:02AQ Shipley:Maybe Goss in next year.

2:30:04Adam Schefter:What's that? Yeah, to throw. Yeah. Yeah, fate of the universe.

2:30:09Pat McAfee:I like that. I like the way we're talking here. I mean, Goss God will get it done. Yeah. Put him outside the arena. Have him throw it all the way. Maybe we could do it at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Open up the tall one. Oh, there we go. Throw it through. He's got a redemption. has to no it was crazy though australia was when august 15th right into texas ohio state college game day yeah it's been a fucking hell of a run oh yeah it's been a lot of fun and we're incredibly lucky that we get to do it enjoy the week off weeks off we'll be back at the combine um yeah for as long as you'll have us we'll do this for the good of ball for the good of sports it's the greatest thing on earth it's the greatest thing that's ever been created it's been going on since the beginning of time.

2:30:52Pat McAfee:There's been this yearn for competition. There's been this yearn to watch others compete. And I think it's something that, you know, can break down a lot of barriers. I think it can break down a lot of hate, a lot of negativity. And I think sports will continue to be the greatest thing of all time because it makes motherfuckers feel alive. We'll be back in a couple weeks covering the greatest thing on earth. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. And remember, let's not just hate people for out of context stuff. Hey, we're done with it.

2:31:19Yeah.

2:31:22Pat McAfee:Let's try to learn whatever language is going to be spoken next year at Super Bowl High Time. Starting tomorrow. Okay, let's start. We would like a heads up on what that is so we can understand.

2:31:31AQ Shipley:I'd be Korean. Oh, we're driving up, up, up.

2:31:40Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah, McKenzie would be locked in. They got talent, by the way.

2:31:44Darius Butler:Yeah. Oh, yeah.

2:31:45Pat McAfee:Kidding me?

2:31:46Darius Butler:Even if it's English, let's get better at that.

2:31:49Pat McAfee:Let's get better at English, yeah. Oh, Cy? Yeah, he pops up out of the stadium. You ever see his? Oh, yeah. He's in a stadium of what looks like 700 ,000 people, and he comes, looks like the DMX Woodstock Festival. He comes flying out.

2:32:06AQ Shipley:Wouldn't mind that at all. That would be too sick.

2:32:08Pat McAfee:They eat that kind, actually. He's like, I think he's rather, I think he's older.

2:32:12AQ Shipley:Yeah.

2:32:13Pat McAfee:And they're sending his ass into space, and then he's coming back down. Boom! Like Rey Mysterio. I'm like, his knee's incredible, and then he gets right into the middle. Yeah, he's been bringing it for a long time. A long time. Still bringing it. Just like we will be in a few weeks. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you to all our guests that made time to talk to us this season. Shefty on Mondays. Bruce Arians on Tuesdays. J.J. Watt on Wednesdays. Alongside AQ Shipley. Coach Mike McCarthy on Thursday. Now the head coach. Coach Saban on Friday. Pete. Pete Damm will stop by. Dan Orlovsky stopped by a lot.

2:32:48Pat McAfee:Can't do it without him. Thank you to everybody. Fosso, great season. Fosso. Great season, Fosso. Congrats on the handoff, Fosso. Congrats on the handoff. Good idea. Fosso's getting attacked right now for me saying that I didn't know about the handoff, I assume. Fosso, you were the man. Fosso's always trying to look out for us. Yes, he is. We feel that for real. He's really good at what he does. We appreciate the hell out of that. I love you, Fosso. Shout out to CFO Phil back there.

2:33:15AQ Shipley:There we go.

2:33:15Pat McAfee:Great to see him out in San Francisco. Love you, Phil. Hey, he was having a good time. Oh, yeah. He was having a good time. And also, he paid out all the charity Super Shot charities already. Nice. So thank you to all the people that joined us at Radio Row, raised money, made some shots. $425 ,000 for the charity Super Shot. Just one last, hey, we're trying to make the world better, we promise. And we utilize every situation we have to continue to try to do that. Be your friend. Tell your friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three.

2:33:46Pat McAfee:We'll see you in a few weeks. One, two, three. Team.

2:33:48Adam Schefter:Goodbye!

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