PMS 2.0 1525 - LIVE From The NFL League Meetings, with Adam Schefter & Peter Schrager

17:50Pat McAfee:Let's move to some other stuff. Hazem said that Deshaun Watson very much in play, to play for the Cleveland Browns. Shador Sanders living in Cleveland, working out in Cleveland. Dylan Gabriel hasn't seen him around building, says Todd Munkin. What is the quarterback situation in Cleveland? and Deshaun Watson returning to Cleveland Brown, I guess, Deshaun Watson arriving as a Cleveland Browns star quarterback could happen this upcoming season. Is that real? I think that's been one of the least talked about biggest stories going into the season. The fact that Deshaun Watson could wind up being the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

18:22I think that's absolutely on the table. I think that it feels like it's moving towards that right now. Now, Todd Monken comes in, and who knows exactly what he's going to do, but they're going to take a look at everybody. Todd Monken said at breakfast this morning that he hasn't decided, at least publicly, how the quarterback rotation will work out in OTAs. He's going to lean on people who've had experience there. Shador's had some experience. Dylan Gabriel not being there. There's a message there. The fact that he's not there, I think.

18:51Pat McAfee:You know what it is? Yeah, not really thrilled there. Shador's dad is one of the greatest professional athletes of all time. He said, hey, when you're on a team, you fucking live there. You know, that's what that's. Yeah, you're a fifth rounder. You probably don't have a lot of say. Remember, he was there before spring workouts. Yeah. Doing charity stuff. It's like he understands what a professional athlete is. You know, I think Shador has a very huge head start and all that. So obviously he had a lot more attention because who his dad was, which everybody said, well, I'm only hearing about it because who his dad is.

19:19Pat McAfee:He's like, well, coming alongside that is also a lot of intel that you can potentially learn about being a professional athlete, especially as a fifth round draft pick and having to earn your shit. So I like to hear that Shador's there in town. I think he's been trying to be the leader in the quarterback of that team since he got there. Deshaun Watson, though, if he's anywhere near when he was a good football player. He was like MVP. Oh, yeah. So good. Was that 100 years ago? 100 years ago? It would be a wild comeback story. Yes, it would be. Everything that he's come back from. Everything. Right?

19:49I mean, he's been off the football radar for a couple of years. Right? So he's back on the football radar. and he could wind up being the starting quarterback.

19:58Pat McAfee:Yeah, we got Deshaun Doppler here in the football radar. He could potentially be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. Andrew Barry looks jacked. Will he be jacked about the quarterback decision he has to make? We shall see. Todd Munkin, not a lot of fanfare whenever he got hired as the head coach. Seems like he might be the right guy. And I'll say this. They have two first-round picks. They're picking, I believe, six and 24. And I don't think they're going to go quarterback in round one at all. Really? Really. I mean, there's – I would hope not. You heard Mel Kuyper. Well, there's also not really any quarterback.

20:27Well, you're not going to do it in six. 24 would be a possibility, and I don't see it happening right now. But with the draft class next year, I think it's like, hey, let's figure out what we have this year. And depending on where we are next year with the class that 2007 is supposed to be, maybe we'll address it.

20:44Pat McAfee:A lot of teams just punting on 2026. Sounds like the NBA. Okay, I hope that's not what's happening around here. Go ahead, D-Bus. Team that's not punting on 2026, the L.A. Rams, and the receiver in particular, JSN, he set the new market with a new wide receiver deal. What are the chances, in your opinion, that Puka Nakua gets to that number or above that number? I know he's dealing with some stuff right now. I'm thinking it'll get figured out. Big fans of Puka on the field for sure. What's the chance that he gets a new deal that kind of tops it? I think that his deal, when it gets done, is going to be around there.

21:14Okay. I don't know that he's going to beat there. It's interesting because I saw that Jackson Smith and Jake Baddiel come down. I'm like, I wonder if Puka's going to beat this. He spoke to some people, and they're like, hmm, going to be tough. But he's also He gets to see the deal It's there in front of him So you know what you're trying to beat And you could always dress up the numbers to beat it So it's not that hard to do But talking to some people They felt like it would be difficult to do in theory So I would say it'll be around there Okay

21:40Pat McAfee:Sean McVay said something about being also one of the leaders Of an organization and everything He's out in LA, he's young, his energy is outrageous He's handsome, he's funny, he's very good at football Everything he's doing is being talked about It's like old school TMZ type life. It does feel like I'm watching like an old school when I was in high school, maybe in college, and TMZ was catching everybody doing everything. That's what Pukunikua has felt like over the last offseason or so. As long as he plays good football, nothing matters, right? If he falls off at all, all of this shit is going to get thrown in his face.

22:09Pat McAfee:He knows that. I think he understands that. And from our understanding, he works his ass off. So I think he's only going to get better and better. I think McVay knows that. But McVay bringing up the, hey, you're a leader of an organization too. too. That's an interesting thing because obviously they're still trying to figure it all out. Well, if you're going to pay him at that level, you need your highest paid players to be your leaders, to set an example. You can't have them doing some of the things that he's done themselves. You just can't do that. Right. So they need him to kind of get with the program, get with being the top paid player that he's going to be.

22:39And hopefully he grows into he's a good kid. Yeah. And during the season, too, when he had, you know, the Aiden Ross situation where he had them at the facility and everything. I'm pretty sure he went out in Seattle and went for like 220 in a touchdown. So he does still deliver to your point about, hey, you got to still continue to play well.

22:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's going to have to though. I mean, that is going to as soon as I started tweeting as a punter, I mean, I'm two shanks away from everybody being, oh, Twitter fingers. That's fun. Why don't you punt the football? And I'm punter. So that's a very low position. Anytime you bring any attention to yourself outside of football and your football slides at all, You're just providing. You're providing. You're providing. He hasn't. He's still very young. He's nowhere near his prime either, which is a scary thing to even think about. Con man has a question for you, though, Shefty. Yeah, Shefty. Yes.

23:25Let's stick with the quarterbacks here. Clark Hunt basically said, like, yeah, I don't think we're going to be starting the season now in Seattle because Mahomes might not be ready by then. And there's some concern around that. What is kind of Mahomes' timeline at the moment? Because he tore his ACL. I forget what it was. But there was a video recently, 100 days later, you know, he's throwing the football. Do you expect him to be ready? when week one rolls around? Do you know anything? First of all, when Clark Hunt says that, he knows that. So that tells me that the Seahawks are not going to be hosting the Chiefs in that Wednesday night opener.

23:57The Chiefs will be off the table. So the league will spare Patrick Mahomes and give him the extra time to try to get ready. There was a doctor, a team doctor, that texted me when he was watching Mahomes through the video. He was like, watch the way that he puts his foot down. It's not all there yet. But I wouldn't expect it to be all there yet. and he's not playing now. He's playing in five-plus months. To me, when I see that, the doctors may say he's not ready. I say to myself, give this guy five more months, and he's going to be there on opening day. That's what I expect. This is a guy, when he dislocated his kneecap, is playing the next week, right?

24:32So five more months to come back after this type of surgery, as significant as that knee injury was, he's coming back from it. I think he'll be back. Andy Reid, I think, got his knee worked on. He's moving around well. Patrick Mahomes got his knee worked. Everybody in Kansas City, you get your knee fixed this offseason, and you're getting ready for the opener, which won't be in Seattle.

24:54Pat McAfee:Whenever we talk about Patrick Mahomes, too, we want to make sure that he remembers. Hey, they're saying your ass, dude. They're saying you're not good. Who said that? Everybody. He's the man. Sheffield. Sheffield didn't say that. We'll say Sheffield. That's Preston, by the way. He's a Lions fan back there. He looks incredible. I think he's staying to Biltmore. That means he's probably somebody. back here. But Patrick Mahomes, you need to remember this. Clip this. Chiefs are dead. Your ass. That is what... You know it. Nobody's talking about Chiefs. At the party last night, that's what everybody else was saying, right?

25:24Pat McAfee:I would like to let it be known. I did not have any conversations about you being asked, Patrick Mahomes, here at this party. If somebody would have said that, I would have stopped them immediately and said, excuse me, shut the fuck up. Nobody at that party is saying that. Nobody at that party is saying that. These people know ball here. But on that note, nobody's talking about the Chiefs. It's over. Travis Kelsey's coming back for a one-year deal. That'll be fun. Okay, Patrick Mahomes coming out of injury. That'll be fun. Maybe they'll be able to get back into battling in the AFC, but nobody's, like, scared of the Chiefs anymore.

25:51Pat McAfee:Pat, they say your ass, Patrick. Good luck out there. Five months to get back. We need him for all games. We need Patrick Mahomes playing football. I think he'll be back. How about Daniel Jones? Sounds like he's tracking okay, right? That sounds like a different answer. Don't sound as confident. That sounds like a different answer than what I just heard. Different injure. I didn't see the video of him planting. You know, I can't look at the video and say, okay. Mike Garofalo is reporting that Shane Steichen says that Daniel Jones is attacking his rehab. It's the second major injury of Jones' NFL career, which helps him understand the process.

26:20Pat McAfee:Steichen, he's been through so many different things. I don't think anything's going to face it. That's Shane Steichen? I don't think I've ever seen him without a hat on. Oh, no, Shane. He looks like a president now. He looks 65 years old. Yeah, he does look like a president. Wait, wait, wait. You guys in Indy wouldn't have known that that was your head coach without a hat. He's not my head coach. He ain't my head coach. Big, but Carthy's my head coach. My smart coach. Whoa. Schefter, they took the opportunity there. Your head coach. Your head coach. Yeah, I don't like what they did. I don't like what they did.

26:48Pat McAfee:Now, granted, we got to win some games. Where do you guys live? Where do you guys live? In the city. I don't live in Indy, I live outside in the suburbs. I paid taxes for that damn stadium and it ain't won shit. I don't pay that much. Big 10. They won. They won. They just won before you pay your taxes for this. Yeah, what about the Final Four? Are you going to be happy down there in Indianapolis? I won't be pissed about the Final Four, but, I mean, what's the point? Is it the lighthouse or is it the, hey, let's cut this thing in half and play basketball? It's the big house. It's the big house this weekend.

27:16Oh, nice.

27:18Pat McAfee:The big house is in Ann Arbor, okay? There are going to be a lot of Michigan fans down there. It's the big house in Indy this weekend. No, it's not the lighthouse. Our house. No. Yeah, Chef. Okay. Are you going, Chef? It's our house. Yes. It's Dusty. Dusty May. Come on, it's Dusty's house. Now, I like it, Shefty. Shefty, Dusty's from Indiana. Yeah, exactly. Now, Shefty, you are not doing what you're doing right now. Please. It's Dusty's house. Is that what all Michigan people are treating this weekend like? I'm treating you right now. They've been awesome. Yeah, Michigan teams, unbelievable. Maybe the most dominant win.

27:54Pat McAfee:You got Arizona, they're also very good. Michigan favored by one and a half in that. Unbelievable. Good for you guys. Illinois, obviously taking on UConn. Loud house, Lucas Oil Stadium will be phenomenal. You are going, right? I don't know yet. Shefty. I thought you said you were going. Michigan man. I don't know. It's up in the air. First of all, next week I was supposed to take my daughter on some college visits and kind of planned it to go Monday. Go to IUPUI. Take her to Bloomington. Yeah, go Jaguars. That's a good idea. Maybe we'll spend... Let's go to Michigan anyways. You know, it's funny.

28:26A couple of weeks ago I was doing a talk at Penn State and I was showing my daughter Penn State. So one of my friends at Michigan texted me. He's like, what are you doing at Penn State. She not going to Michigan. I'm like, if you can promise me and assure me that she'll get into Michigan, we will cease all visits right now. It is such a hard school to get into. You have no idea how it's going to work.

28:47Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Such a good school. Yeah. So good. Make a call, Schefter. It's not that simple. They call to Morgantown in the Midwest. Not that simple. Michigan? West Virginia lets everybody. If your daughter would like to go to West Virginia University. I know some people. Probably put her on scholarship. She's a media person, right? Burgeoning media person, yes. Okay, so she's on scholarship at West Virginia if she'd like it. Wow. That's huge. Now, on that note, why don't you make a little bit of a donation to Michigan and maybe get the kids in for free? Why don't you do that? I donated yesterday.

29:21Pat McAfee:Did you really? Yeah. A quarterback or a wide receiver? No, no. Actually, my friends and I went to the game this weekend in Chicago and one of the guys said, But, you know, he didn't charge for tickets. He'd make a donation to the women's program. So we did that yesterday. Oh, nice. Yeah. Which program? Just in general? The women's basketball program yesterday. That lost to Texas. Oh. It was a close game, huh? Yeah. I was watching. That was crazy when it happened. Yeah, I was pretty bummed out. Women's basketball. Hockey's in the Frozen Four. Yeah. Men's basketball. Going to our house, Dusty's house this weekend.

29:52All right. Great new football coach. It's early, Zach. Great new football coach. Whittingham. He's pretty pissed. About$50 million on the roster this year.

29:58Pat McAfee:This is not Michigan's house. Okay? It's the loud house in Indianapolis, Indiana. And it is hosting the Final Four. It is not the Michigan house. Dusty's house. It is not Dusty's house. We'd like to let everybody know, Illinois, you need to look out for Illinois. There's going to be a lot of orange. It might be Brad Underwood's house. Yeah, especially because Tony Cochid is coming back to his house as well. There's a lot of Indiana representatives here in the Final Four, and they're going to take over that entire place. UConn plus one. Michigan has the best odds to win the national championship?

30:28Pat McAfee:Yes, sir. Plus 170. You want to hammer that? But they're underdogs. Aren't they underdogs on Saturday? No, your favorites. My one and a half. Bit of a pick 'em. Yeah, one and a half is not a lot of points. Yeah, your favorite. You guys have had a dominant run here through March Madness, brother. They've been good. It's a good group of people. You're just thinking about not going to see him play. Ty has a question for you, Chef. No, I'd like to go see him play. It's complicated. It's getting there. It's getting tickets. It's all those things. Adam Schefter. Yeah, you're Adam Schefter. Fine. We have tickets for you.

30:59Pat McAfee:Make a call. Yeah, I mean, we don't have the Michigan connection that you're allegedly taking over a fucking stadium, but we could probably call somebody at the level. Yeah, we could probably find you a ticket if we need to. Go ahead, Ty. Schefter, just curious. Last time you came on, you said that Kirk Cousins was basically, like, he's not just going to go take a$1 or$2 million deal to be a backup quarterback somewhere. Where do we stand on that? I feel like that's the only name I've been seeing is, hey, hey, where's Kirk Cousins going to go? And is he maybe waiting? I don't know. Does he think he's going to be a starting quarterback in Pittsburgh, potentially?

31:31Or is the idea that, hey, we kind of know that Rodgers is probably going to be going back to Pittsburgh and eventually here, Kirk Cousins, he does still want to play and he's just going to go be a backup. It does sound like the Rodgers thing and Pittsburgh thing is happening. Him and McCarthy are talking every day. Why are they talking every day if he's not going back? It just is not official. It's not contractual. I was told, I don't know where they're at. They just, it's Aaron being Aaron, right? What's that mean? Hasn't decided. What's that mean? He's going through his process. Exactly. He's talking to Big Mike every week.

32:00I believe Mike McCarthy said this morning he was talking to him yesterday. I mean, what are we doing? Right. You either want to play or you don't. He's busy, guys. We know why. Working on.

32:10Pat McAfee:Doing push-ups. You know why? Bone time. Cooking bacon. That's what he's doing. In his underwear. In my kitchen. You think he's worried about what's going on in August, September, October right now? No. Can't. How could he? Now, on that note, I assume he is, actually. And if he is talking to Mike McCarthy every single week, when Mike was sitting here yesterday, I was putting it to him a little bit, you know, because we're pretty comfortable with him. Like, well, why wouldn't he want to play in your offense for one last trip because he loves your offense? He goes, conversations are going positively.

32:40Pat McAfee:And then I go. Everybody here sounds like him. Everybody can imitate him very well. Hinsburg, yeah. He's a Hinsley. Right? It's pretty simple. So you think Aaron playing for the Steelers? Be my guess, yeah. It seems like, right? Why don't you put a tweet out about it? Right now. That's why I say seems and be my guest because we want to keep it like that. Mark Caboli, who's obviously the Pittsburgh Steelers correspondent for this program. We saw him last night for the first time this year. Mike McCarthy said he talked to Aaron Rodgers last night. Those two talk more to me and my wife. So it sounds like they're getting tied up.

33:10Pat McAfee:Jeez, Mark. And Caboli, maybe reach out to your wife. Exactly. That's the headline out of there that Mark didn't talk to his wife last night. Not just last night. I think he's just talking to him. General. Yeah. Mark, open up a conversation with Ms. Caboli. Exactly. Geez. Stop eating a mayonnaise sandwich right in front of her face and say hello. Ask her how her day is going. And don't take your business with Miss Caboli public. Well, we don't know. Maybe they're the next reality TV couple. Mark takes a lot of things public. I would, too. The Cabolis? I'll tell you what. And then what if he starts working out so he can do what Aaron is doing with his?

33:43Pat McAfee:Wow. Yeah, get a PhD. Yeah, there's a chance. Caboli. Knocking boots. They actually already did that show. What's that? They actually already did that show. Love is Blind? No, it was, I believe it was Mahershala. Oh, Bob loves Abby Schoel or whatever. That's a great show. Bill Gardell's in it. By the way, I didn't answer Ty's question. I think Kirk Cousins is just sitting back and waiting. Whatever opportunity comes his way, he can be selective and choose. He's made as much money as an NFL player. So he doesn't have to rush into anything. Not going to be Mendoza. Back up. Or start and then let Mendoza come in.

34:16Maybe, but is he rushing out to Vegas now? He's got his family. I don't know. He can go when he wants. He can go where he wants. He can play. He can not play. He can Bruck. I don't think he's rushing to anything until he feels like it's the right thing. Whatever that is. Yeah. Shefty, kind of a news story that hit the wire that kind of got us all going. It feels as though the Lions are the cheap Lions now. They asked for money back from Frank Wright. I think we got a brand new graphic actually if you would like to send to it. We have a brand new graphic if we could pull it up. Frank Wright now basically broke his neck and said No, I still want to play.

34:52Yeah, Dale is over time, and they basically – What the hell is this? It's almost as if they reversed the curse that they reversed, that they're now going to be cursed again. Sheila Ford-Hamp brought in a whole new attitude. Who's sitting in that chest?

35:06Pat McAfee:That's the Lions. Who is that? That's not Sheila Ford-Hamp. No, it was – I think he made this before the most recent version of you're going to have to give us your money back, even though you certainly outplayed your contract, and we are, I guess, not grateful. Jim Irsay gave Andrew Luck$25 million whenever he retired 13 days before the season. Think about that. Just as a thank you to Andrew Luck. And I'm not saying that that's how you have to do it. But just the fact that the Lions are seemingly still up to their old tricks. What? Why would you do? How normal is this? It's not normal, right?

35:40Pat McAfee:Especially with stars. If they were like bottom half of roster and didn't contribute to city to team, I think it'd be a little bit more. With a broken throat. I was surprised to see that. Me too. Because how much was it, Fox? Did you guys get like a new chair or something? Ragnar, you owe us$1 ,200. I actually don't even know why I was defending the Lions right here. This is inexcusable. Those are three of the greatest players of my lifetime by far and away. And like you guys said, Ragnar played through so many injuries, and he was here during the greatest era of Lions football in the history of the franchise.

36:10I don't care how much it was. It could have been$100 million billion, and we should have gave him the money. What the hell is going on, Shefty?

36:17Pat McAfee:I know they're going to, honestly, and Taylor Decker said what? They haven't talked to me. That was like two, three months. He's being a little dramatic, we think. I agree. But on that note, it does feel weird the way you guys treat your players. Honestly. Dragnow tried to come back. It couldn't pass the physical. Yeah, one hamstring. His other hamstring disappeared. Shefty, inform us a little bit. Why is it as abnormal as we are making it feel here? Because it feels abnormal for your star players to give back money to the team that they've played for. I don't know how it works for every team, but it feels more abnormal than not.

36:50I don't think that most teams do that. I'm open to be corrected, but it doesn't sound like teams ask their star players to start giving back money after that. And, like, I don't know how this comes out like this. And then other players, I think it was Quandre Diggs, I believe. He chimed in. Alex Anzalone. Paizan, who we know, he chimed in basically also burying him. Like, it just looks terrible as a team that we all think, like, hey, if you're trying to resurrect your team, do what the Lions did. Brand new Lions.

37:23Pat McAfee:This feels like some same old shit. Poop. It does. And I want to know who makes that decision. Is that actually the owner? Is that actually Sheila Ford? Yeah, whoever's sitting in that chair. Or is it the president, Rod Wood? That needs to be clear up there as well. Rod Wood's retiring. I wonder if they're going to make him pay back his money. that's a good question and thank you for being fair right there normally people in your position would not go to bat for players versus executives or coaches players earn all their money and when they sign that contract that is supposed to be guaranteed money if it's guaranteed, why are we guaranteed to give it back?

37:57Pat McAfee:Well the Lions said it's actually our money we gave him for future use and he's not doing the future use so that thing's going to have to come back it optically looks stupid for a company that is billions and billions of dollars how big the NFL is this guy rolled himself out of the hospital bed to try to play football for them because their offensive line sucked this last year. And they ran a physical and they're like, dude, you're not healthy enough to play. He's like, I'll die out there. Just let me do it. And then on his way out, after he failed a physical and was willing to die, they're like, oh, yeah, also you owe us$5 million.

38:28Pat McAfee:You got cash on it? On the way out, please. It's like, what? Why would you? I don't know why you would do that. It makes no sense. But, hey, cutthroat business. That's what I do. That's their policy. Hey, way to go. You guys are going to need Peyton Manning and the guy from Dumb and Dumber to put another hub out there. They're moving Penny Sewell to the left tackle. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. So will he get a new contract? Are they going to ask for some of the right tackle contract back and then give him a different left tackle contract? That's a good question. I mean, honestly, we have to start asking these.

38:55Val, what's happening?

38:56Pat McAfee:Any deal with the Lions, if you're a star player, you're going to have to put in there like not paying this back. Well, if I remember correctly, when they paid Penny Sewell, they paid him as the highest lineman in general, not right tackle, not left tackle specific. So I think that's where his contract's at. But you never know these days. You never know what's going to happen with that. I don't like that we're a little hungover maybe, so we're going a little harder than we should on the Lions. But this is disgusting. Disgusting. This is disgusting. Yeah, I don't like it either, especially because I just met MCDC last night.

39:24It was one of the greatest nights of my life. So I hate that this has to happen. Love his new hair. It's not his call. Sounds like it's over. What's up? It's not MCDC. Yeah, I do have a question. I saw you put out, and we know Chris Ballard likes his guys. that there's a possibility Anthony Richards is still going to be on the Colts. Is there a market for him? Do you see him being on the Colts? What's the latest with that situation of the former number four overall pick? The market for him was soft. If there was a market for him, they would have traded him. And it didn't materialize. So now you have to ask yourself, okay, is it worth it to deal him where you're like, I'm making some flipping picks like Richardson and a seven for a six.

40:02Like, why are you going to do that? You might as well hold on to the guy. He would obviously like a fresh start and go somewhere where he'd get some reps and work and change the scenery. But you're not just going to give away the former fourth overall pick in the 2023 draft, unless it makes a little sense. Now, we'll see how the draft materializes. Maybe somebody doesn't get somebody. Maybe somebody gives up some pick that makes it worth the Colts' while. But what they're saying there is we're not going to give them away. I don't think they're expecting a lot, but they're expecting something back.

40:30And nothing has materialized so far. there's not been a team that has been overly interested in getting a deal. I know Green Bay was out there. There was no real conversation. Now maybe that'll happen and heat back up with the draft, but nothing so far.

40:43Pat McAfee:So did you follow up because you're a journalist with Kevin O 'Connell who gave a full speech after a game to Anthony Richardson about how big of a dog he is, how good he is at football, and how yada yada yada needs to keep going. Did you follow up that tweet saying there was no interest in trading for him with a, hey, remember this clip from Kevin O 'Connell saying that he would love to coach this guy? But the Vikings signed Kyler Murray and they signed Carson Wentz. to go along with J.J. McBurney. Well, ask Kevin O 'Connell. He signs Carson Wentz over Anthony Richardson. That's obviously what he preferred.

41:11Okay, yeah. So why don't you say, hey, Kevin O 'Connell. I thought we were. He obviously thinks Carson Wentz is a real dog, too.

41:18Pat McAfee:We love Carson Wentz. He is a fun experience watching it. He almost died on the field last year for the Vikings. For us. There's a lot of people for the good of sport. Yeah, prime time. There's a lot of people, though, that whenever we were talking about Anthony Richardson not playing football well, they're from other teams, They were telling me I was the biggest piece of trash, and I don't understand what ball is, and I don't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This guy has been available now, right, for nothing, sounds like. It would be minimal. And nobody in the league wants him. So that's a couple questions now.

41:47Pat McAfee:Injury that happened to him. Is he? Yeah. Do we know enough about the injury? Because it sounds like there was a lot of people that were interested in Anthony Richardson outside of the Colts, even though us who followed along with the Colts were like, feels like he's never maybe going to hit his ceiling here in Indianapolis for whatever reason, whether it's not understanding what a pro is, not understanding what defense is, maybe people getting hurt, maybe him getting hurt, not getting reps, freak accident happened, and then he comes back, seemingly figures it out. He's taking mental reps, doing his whole thing, has no idea what an elementary blitz is, breaks his pinky first preseason.

42:15Pat McAfee:Whenever it was all going. It just, like, never really got going good. But I heard a lot of other people telling me that they would love to have him on their team. And it's like, now it sounds like that's not the case. Maybe everybody's just posturing. But I want to let you know there was a time. And it's still there, I guess. Where I was a believer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look. There it is. We made that. AR5, you see? We are believe ours. Ah. Ah. Believe ours. Because I believed in him. And you still are? You're not? I'm out on him. As a Colt. Yeah, sure. I'm out on him as a Colt. I don't think it'll ever work at the Colts.

42:47Pat McAfee:Will anybody work at the Colts? Well, seems like no. That's far. But maybe this year. Soften that up. There is no reason for that. Maybe it was like no. changes. So the guy fade away 70-yard throw. Yeah. Dunk from foul line. I would love if he was the Packers backup quarterback. I mean, legit, like, there is certainly upside. So it's like, what was the injury? Was there more to the injury that we maybe didn't hear about? Didn't know? Did people learn more about it? Did they hear more stories about what was happening behind the scenes? They don't want to bring that in. Is it just the wrong timing?

43:19Pat McAfee:There's so much about it. But as one of the most hyped athlete quarterbacks that at least we've been around, especially because he came to our city, it's like the upside is still, I assume, very much there. It's just like, will he ever get... And we've seen all these quarterbacks who have been taken high come back and have resurgent careers elsewhere, so that has to make him even more attractive. True, very true. Yeah, speaking of Sam Darnold, hard knocks with Seattle. It feels like we're going to get a peek behind the McDonald's curtain and Sam Darnold, and then, yeah, the Patriots the year after.

43:51First of all, how do they do, like, all of a sudden, hey, the next two years of hard knocks are decided. And will that maybe be the new thing? Like, if you play in the Super Bowl, you're going to get – Yeah, you're getting hard knocks. I asked that question last night. How did it come to me? Because we've never seen it two years. And everyone always says, we'll do it next year. We'll do it next year. So they actually held a team's feet to the fire and said, oh, the Patriots, you'll do it next year? You're in. You're the 2027 team. So that's why it's two teams and not one, because everybody always says they'll do it the next year.

44:24It's like, yeah, let's get lunch. Let's get lunch. Let's get lunch. And then you don't get lunch, right? They scheduled lunch for 2027 on Hard Knocks. Now, let me say this. Mike McDonald, he's awesome. What a great guy. He is going to come across really well. He is so even-keeled. I said to him last night at that party, I'm like, how is this Super Bowl win? Has it changed your life? No. You don't feel like a certain puff out your chest here? No. One of the rare people that I've ever heard say that. No, no. He's like, hasn't changed anything. Just kind of working along. I thought it was interesting because usually when you talk to people that won a Super Bowl, they feel like they're proud.

45:03It carries over for the whole long season.

45:06Pat McAfee:I saw him sitting down. You went over to him when he was sitting down. He was hanging out, had a Seahawks hat. You sit down and you go, what's up, dude? Feel like you got a little bigger in the pants because you won a Super Bowl? Actually, I saw him. I said, you look bulky. Bulky? I said, buffed, buffed. Him and Nick Sirianni, they both cut up. They look good. Sirianni people were killing Sirianni. Yeah, they called him a chud, whatever that means. Yeah, I don't know what that means. I still don't know what that means, but a lot of people saw that tweet. It had a big number. Yeah. I don't know what they were saying, though.

45:37Pat McAfee:Chud. What do you think that is? Let me look it up. The only thing I can think of is... Jacked. He looks big. He does. He does look jacked. And he's Paisan, you know, so probably eating still. Yeah. Honestly, he looks like... From right here, I don't have my glasses on. Oh, no. It looks like Dan Campbell. Like, I would guess, who's that? That looks like Dan Campbell, just a rocked-up big guy. I mean, Salah, you don't want to be standing by. Shanahan, good idea, kind of turning the shoulders. Do you want me to read the Merriam-Webster definition of Chud? What does it say? Chud is a generalized term of disparagement used somewhat synonymously with fool, troll, or jerk.

46:16Oh, that's not a... He don't look like that, Chud. I never heard that in my life. Yeah, I guess because you're not a Chud. When he said Chud, I was thinking Rob Chudzinski. Sure. Brown's great. Love Chud.

46:26Pat McAfee:Chased a U to an O, maybe. With an E. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, add an E. Yeah, I think we all took the trip there together. He said Chud. That's what he said. Okay, so Hard Knocks in Seattle and New England. Yep. Which is awesome. Hopefully it'll be good. Hard Knocks, obviously, very important. August 11th. August 11th, it starts. Okay, August 11th, that starts with Seattle. Obviously, very important to the history of the league. Hard Knocks, the inside scoop. Now social media teams are able to do that. So how does Hard Knock stay relevant? Getting to two Super Bowl teams is a big way to do that.

46:55Pat McAfee:Because normally they do shit teams. So that's a good thing. Super Bowl going to Las Vegas in 2029. You broke that yesterday. That feels like a big deal. Vegas is an incredible host. We are fans of Vegas as a hosting city. Are they now just going to get into the L.A., Miami, Vegas? I think New Orleans is. Miami hasn't got one. It feels like Miami's getting skipped now. Is that the case? Yeah. It feels like there's a couple homes that become like the spots. We've been to Miami since the COVID. It was right before COVID, the Chiefs and the Niners. That was like COVID was hitting the next day, that week.

47:24Pat McAfee:So Vegas probably going to become a likely... Yeah, I think obviously the league liked experience there the last time and is going back there pretty quickly. WWE has done WrestleMania there now two years in a row. I like it. Their fans got really pissed whenever it was announced it was back at WrestleMania. But I think anybody that went to WrestleMania there was like... It was a great setup. It's incredible. Yeah. It's a great hosting city, especially if you're going to have a good time. They are built for it. They are ready for it. And it's all very accessible. I think Vegas is a great hosting team.

47:56Yeah, Nashville. You might keep eyes on Nashville because that new stadium and Nashville is a city. Nashville, I'll bet, gets a Super Bowl.

48:03Pat McAfee:As they should. Multiple. They should start getting into the rotation of the Super Bowl. By the way, when the draft was there, that was awesome. That was the first big, big, big, big, big one. That was pretty cool. Yeah, was it$250 ,000,$300 ,000? There was a lot of people up and down Broadway. Yeah, I don't know why they haven't been back. I did the draft pick there for the Colts. You know what? Because every city wants the draft. So they kind of spread around. Especially the cold weather ones. Yeah, Pittsburgh definitely. Yeah, because you can't get a Super Bowl. Buffalo will get it probably because they're not going to get a Super Bowl with their new stadium.

48:31Pat McAfee:Carly Ursa, yesterday, Carly Ursa Gordon, yesterday said, we got really lucky during the Super Bowl with the weather. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Which I think if you actually, like I know the people of Indiana are like just speak positive about it because how much money comes to town, please don't say anything else. I'm going to say this. The weather was, we've never had that since. and we only had the football gods blessed Indiana for that. There was a zip line through the city in February. Okay? Yeah, right. It was negative 10 in Indiana this year. Right. Minneapolis when you guys were there. Yeah, exactly.

49:00So cold.

49:01Pat McAfee:So, like, Indianapolis got very lucky. And people left saying, like, maybe best Super Bowl because Al connected everything. It was a very small town. But the weather was a huge part of that. New York, New Jersey got it. Remember, it was terrible weather. Yeah. So then everybody was like, it was a shitty one because it was hard to get to everywhere. Well, and it was terrible. It was snow. There was a big storm the next morning. Exactly. So the draft has become a great replacement. And Carly Ursa Gordon was like, I heard we got very lucky with the weather. So we definitely are interested in the draft.

49:27Pat McAfee:And it's like the draft has become a replacement Super Bowl for football towns. I think it's, once again, a brilliant move by the NFL. And it's only going to get bigger. I'm excited to see what Pittsburgh is. Do you know what started? You know, they were at Radio City Musical all those years. And Radio City Musical booked it for an Easter special with the Rockettes. The NFL got so upset that they said, we're going to take it on the road next year. and they took it to Chicago. The rest is history. Boy, it's how great. Yeah, Raj. The Easter show. Thank you to the Easter show. Shout out, Rockett.

49:55Pat McAfee:The way the Raj, yeah, talked about that was like, yeah, I told her like, hey, it's a draft. They basically told us they didn't care. It's like, how'd you feel in that memory, Raj? That's probably the last time that's happened. Oh, yeah. And by the way, like when the draft was in New York, you could feel it was nice, but it's not like it is when it goes to these other cities. When it goes to these other cities, it's the biggest thing there is. Like the Pittsburgh public schools are closing. We're going to virtual learning. Green Bay when they picked a wide receiver. Matt Golden. Nice one. I know.

50:25Detroit was great. Detroit was awesome. Detroit was fantastic. D.C. should be pretty cool. It was good. D.C. is going to be beautiful. It's going to be on the mall. Yeah, I mean, that's a cool setup. Awesome. That's going to be fantastic.

50:38Pat McAfee:Are you going to bring your politics into the draft when you're out there? No. Hegseth's getting picked number one over all the time. Department of War? Yeah, next year he's top of a lot of people's boards. I heard Cash is going to try to get himself drafted. Yeah, I could see that. To the NFL. People are not happy with what he did after the hockey thing. They were not happy about it. What did you do? Did you report any news on that? Hey, way to keep politics out of sports. Thank you, Schefter. Thank you, Schefter. Hey, anything else? Oh, well, I will say this. We had long talks. You know, you review the film and study the tape and try to see how you can do better.

51:16So Pat and I had a long kind of moment about that. And we think we can make the show even better than it's been this season. But today, as for anything else going on right now, it's kind of quiet. We're waiting for Roger Goodell. It's kind of quiet. We had a full game plan.

51:31Pat McAfee:I gave him a full speech about, like, hey, if we don't ask you about something, you're allowed to do the, oh, and also. That is basically what I said. Like, hey, Shefter, you're allowed to do the and also if we don't ask about it. Like, if you think something we should talk about, we would appreciate if you did that. And you're like, okay, so, like, when I, bah, bah, bah, and then I do and also. And also, there isn't much also today. Well, pro football league. A pro flag football league, correct? Well, I'll say, and also, and also the NFL is really behind that flag football. Like, the NFL really was.

52:03Yeah, but you blew it.

52:04Pat McAfee:He had to do it. Yeah, I had to introduce it. But is the flag football that, like, is it breaking news? I did see Sean Payton say, ah, that was kind of an embarrassment. I don't think there's going to be any NFL players in the Olympics. He said that this morning. Schrager says, I'll be surprised if there's one NFL player on that team USA flag roster, says Sean Payton, after what he describes as a humbling experience coaching the NFL's best and the Founders team in the Fanatics super-duper flag football deal that saw the NFL players get bamboozled by Fanatics and have to play the greatest flag football players of all time on TV.

52:36Pat McAfee:That is what happened. There's no way the boys were told, hey, you guys are about to get your dicks kicked. Yeah. Watch this. There's no way that happened. No. I will say we're definitely winning the gold. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little, little, uh. That's all. Yeah, that guy. Brown Jr. And Hoosh. Hoosh Ducat. Yeah. And Zana? No, no. Oh, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. No, Hoosh. Hoosh. Hoosh. Hoosh. He's the quarterback. He's the quarterback. He's the one. We're definitely winning goal, and that's all that matters. He's the one that said he was Barry Mahomes, yeah.

53:09Pat McAfee:Yeah. And then we all said, shut up, dude. And then turns out they play in a game in the middle of the offseason with Logan Paul and I show speed on it and some retired players who haven't played football in a long time. And those guys certainly did beat the NFL guys. And it was a really prideful moment watching Team USA just run it up on guys I know and then talk shit. Yeah. I really like that Team USA. Luke Kuechly's still icing his knees. That was unfair. Luke Kuechly didn't know what he was getting into. None of these guys knew what they were getting into. Give him a month, though. Not that any of them will spend a month of their life looking.

53:46Pat McAfee:Which is part of the problem. Doing the little flag avoid drills. The elevator. I don't know what they call it, but that is the move. Mackenzie needs to learn that stat for whenever she gets into flag football. All right, so you got nothing else to tell us? Sorry. I wish I did. I thought you had a good performance at that party last night, Shefty. Especially, I didn't know you were just going up to guys, asking if they're peacocking around now. I didn't know you were doing that. That's good journalism. Oh, yeah. I appreciate that. Whatever it takes, Pat, to do the job. You do not drink, right?

54:12I mean, every now and then I do, but not often.

54:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, like last night you were watering, I think. Correct. The boy, though, the boy you had out there. Oh, he drinks. Oh, yeah. He drinks for the both of us and then some. There you go. Yeah, he was having a good time last night. He was having a good time, which I'm happy to. Good lad. It was very nice to meet him in person, just like we appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider, Michigan man, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. Schefter. Thank you, guys. Oh, no, no news, Schefter. You guys going to win this weekend? I'm joking. No, it's muted. All right, see you. I'm out of here.

54:51Pat McAfee:Thank you, Schefter. You're the best, genuinely.

54:56Pat McAfee:Schefter's got enemies in this place. What? Oh. Who? Yeah, he keeps that dang on. I thought you got a speech last night. There was no enemies. Oh, shit. Yeah, you're right. At this thing. That's what I'm saying. Everybody kind of puts their swords away. Put the swords away. That's what I'm saying is like once people start pointing out other wars that, you know, kind of have a, what's that called? Ceasefire. Yeah. At these league meetings, I started thinking to myself, oh, you guys have hated each other a lot longer than I hate all these other people. Yeah. Yeah. I did see him in rap, though. They went forehead to forehead like Dan Hurley in the ref.

55:29Pat McAfee:On that note, Dan Hurley was going to join the show today. He will not be. Okay. Almost Adam, though. Saw some people tweeting that they were excited to see his response on a program about him certainly potentially earning a technical foul, but the ref understand that he just wanted to hear what he was saying and he was having a moment there. We were excited for that moment as well. We look forward to talking to Coach Dan Hurley. I watched that video a thousand times. How could you not? We called UConn and said, is this fake? Did he actually do this thing? It was non-combative. He just couldn't hear it in person.

55:59Pat McAfee:And you look at it from that angle, it's like, oh, he was just kind of, I guess, trying to hear him, but he certainly was letting him know what's up. Huh? If he would have had his coat on normal, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but he just looks like such a deranged psychopath right there that it's kind of. And then the way he walks away. What's that? What's that? What'd you say? I love the ref saying he didn't remember it after either. What are you talking about? I love it. Even the ref being like, what the hell just happened? That's what I'm saying. I do like that the refs know that, hey, when you're a ref in a Dan Hurley game, forehead's the worst it gets.

56:34Pat McAfee:That's a good ball game. Yeah. Elite eight buzzer beater. Okay, fine. Okay, you go ahead. Dan Hurley football. Also, we don't know if that's their handshake. True. Nobody has been able to clarify that. We're going to ask Dan Hurley. Obviously, we'll hope to talk to him in the future. He's locked in. Trying to wait for you. Yeah, he is. He's locked in. The boys are ready to go. Braylon's a stud. Caravan's ready to do it. All right. Michigan's excited Bye So is Illinois Bye So is Arizona Bye Back on you this second time

57:07Pat McAfee:Sports are fantastic, as is the event that we are currently guests at. We have no idea how we've gotten invited or why we're allowed to be here, but we will tell you that the NFL League meetings happening right here at the Biltmore Hotel in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona have been spectacular. It's been great to catch up with everybody. There's some news coming out of here. Biggest one, the refs in the NFL aren't getting along. That is the biggest. At all. That's a constant conversation around football people, strictly because we understand how important the officials are. They have a CBA negotiation happening.

57:38Pat McAfee:They always get ugly. Hopefully, they're able to get that done. 18 games is coming. Heard some people from my source at the league say, do we need a second bye? Oh, come on. Whoa. Do we need a second bye? Come on. Didn't there? Last night? Wasn't from ball side. Oh, okay. Wasn't from ball side. Okay. Makes sense. Then somebody dropped into history. You know the last time there was two buys? It's terrible. Terrible for the game. Maybe do a little research. And I go, it's not going to get passed without another buyer week, right? And wouldn't a buy week be another weekend? What's going on? Nick just talked in my ear as well.

58:18Pat McAfee:Hold on. It sounds like there's a little thing going on in the truck there. We all right? I think we're good. Gentlemen. I think we're good. Are they confirming second buy? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. literally Nick Meralta just hopped in my ear and was like, I think we're good. They were down. You guys on a hot mic? Oh, yes. I like that. Is that what happened? What happened? I don't know. I was peeing in a port-a-john right before the show came back live. What happened? I don't know. You guys said something? No. I had no idea. Oh, sounds like uh-oh, boys. Sounds like there might be a little bit of an Arizona Tuesday happening right now.

58:46No, exactly what we were talking about, so I feel very good about whatever thoughts that might be going on. Full panic from Nick's

58:52Pat McAfee:mouth in my ear there just a few minutes ago. It was not supposed to go into my right ear. I do not believe it. They're currently having an anxiety attack in that truck right now. I said to D-Bud, I said, UConn's definitely not showing up at the Final Four. And D-Bud said, what the hell did we just talk about that first hour? Mikes were hot during the break as well. Oh, good. I was in a Port-A-John. Talks tables here at Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Turner's here. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler's here. You do bum brush Port-A-John's all the time? You need to lock the door.

59:24I'm not touching anything in there.

59:28Pat McAfee:Butch. I don't know, piss like Caboli with my cheeks. Standard Port-A-John etiquette is you let people outside know that you're in there. Have to. The way you do that is you slide the thing. Yeah. You slide the thing. Go from green to red. Yeah. Not touching. He, green, Port-A-John. Only two Port-A-Johns. Everybody sprinting over there, especially with how we're living right now. So everybody was heading to the Port-A-Johns. See green. Okay. I just run over there. Was laid over here. Obviously. Excited to see it. Run over that pull that thing. Head down. Shoulder in deep. but while he's peeing.

59:57Oh, no. He pee on you?

59:58Pat McAfee:He's in a urinal on the left side here, too. So I literally go in, and he goes, whoa! Shut up. And I'm like, what are you even doing? Feel something on your foot? And I say, you got to lock this thing. I'm not touching that thing. It's like, we just had a full memory. I'm a spirit giant here. Like, I'm Roman Reigns because you didn't. You never do that? No. But you have to expect that to happen then. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's the mayor here alongside Jay Glazer. A man who was the only person that kind of told us what schedule was. Yeah. A man who took care of us incredibly well.

1:00:30Pat McAfee:He invited us to eat Mr. Chris Bianco's pizza the other night. He is a living legend, friend of the program, Emmy Award winner, ladies and gentlemen, Pierce Schrager. Pierce Schrager. Pierce Schrager. Pierce Schrager. Go, Schrager. Hey, baby, Schrager. Hey, good to see you, dude. Great to see you. Thank you for joining us again. Yesterday I got cut off a little bit. I'll tell you what, I got good news for you today. We need all your stuff. Nothing but time. Yeah, we do. Can I tell you, I know you spoke to Adam for a while, but gosh, I loved seeing you boys last night at that event. You were killing it, Shregs.

1:01:03Pat McAfee:Shregs, you spoke glowingly of that event numerous times. I think it was an incredible event last night. It was nice to see everybody. It was crazy that the amount of people that were super comfortable in there last night, like GMs, head coaches, ownership groups, I mean, all in there having a good time. It was special. It felt like it was a good thing for the league last night. And we appreciate you kind of guiding us through all of it, literally, because we have no other information about any of this stuff around here. A hundred percent. I wanted you guys all to experience a different side of the NFL where everyone's guard is down a little bit.

1:01:35It only happens this week, really, because all 32 teams, we're done with free agency, we're heading towards the draft, but we're not close enough to the draft where it's secret season. All their families are here, and the drinks are flowing. And we should give out some awards, I think. Okay, let's do it.

1:01:53Pat McAfee:We don't know what all we're allowed to say. What I led off the show was saying was I watched some people in there last night that I did not expect. Really tie one on. I thought this was a fight club situation. You're not allowed to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, but how are we not supposed to? No, no, I mean names. We didn't mention any names. No, no. If you'd like to give us some awards, I think you potentially. Me and D-Bot would like an award alongside D-Bone and Gumpy. We were one of the last five people out of here. Were you really? Yeah, we were one of the last five people. So I left it. D-Bone got off of the roster spot.

1:02:18I left it. D-Bone got offered a roster spot.

1:02:21Pat McAfee:What team? Dallas Cowboys. Come on. I thought you were fighting. Oh, yeah. I was supposed to say. There's a chance D-Bone is going to have a workout for the Dallas Cowboys. What position? Anything he wants. I will say, immediately upon it coming out of Shoddy's mouth to D-Bone, I said, he's got thin feet and this guy doesn't have a lot of discipline. You don't want that. And then he rescinded the offer. But there was a moment in time. And I'm happy for him because I swear I saw him Sunday after Duke lost and he was about to walk into traffic. I mean, this guy has really had. Yeah, he has. He's had a little bit of an Arizona whirlwind, I would say, throughout this entirety.

1:02:55Pat McAfee:But, yeah, Shawty did a point at him. I like your body. No. It was actually the complete opposite. It was just me. I was trying to get him back into shape. That was the motivation because I asked Shawty to ask how old he was or guess how old he was. I think Shawty said like 45 or something. He's 26. He had a polo tucked in. I mean, it was a bad time. Then he said, how old are you, 26? And we said, he's a national champion. And Shottie goes, you want to play for the Dallas Cowboys? That story. And the bone gets, like, so excited. And I'm like, you don't want that. And then he goes in the full, like, yeah, but could be motivation.

1:03:30Pat McAfee:Get this guy the best version of himself. And they rescinded the offer. Deep Ben, welcome. We get back to the hotel last night. Forgot about it. Do you remember this? Yes. Airstrike. Airstrike McDonald's. Yeah. We get back to the lobby. I don't know, two, three, whatever time it is. We were late. We were late, late. I mean, it was very late when we get in here. We walk in here. He has somebody that works at our hotel waiting on him with a McDonald's bag. Mr. Murphy? Right in front of him. Would you like to know how that ended? He told me. Fell asleep with fries in his hand. Yeah. 26, bone. Tighten up.

1:04:02Not to rub it in. He called for an airstrike for McDonald's every single day we were in Arizona. I heard the exact same thing the two previous days. I had to get McDonald's late night because nothing was open.

1:04:13Pat McAfee:There was that lady holding it like this. He walked right in. Walked up there. Seamless. I'm like, what are you doing? To be fair, he sleeps better when there's loose fries in the bed. The awards I can say, though, it's like I'm not saying this is the drunkest person. It's maybe the most gregarious. Maybe the person that surprised you the most. Maybe it's the person that you didn't think necessarily would be a warm reception and that you got. I'm going to say the MVP every year. and it's not because of the drinking consumption, just the friendliness and the charismatic. John Schneider, the GM of the Seahawks, is the winner always at this event.

1:04:51I would agree. He's the most secure in his job. He's the most successful at his job, and he's also the nicest guy and has stories galore,

1:04:59Pat McAfee:and he can hang. So did you happen to see Ty was with Schneider and McCarthy last night for, I don't know, an hour and 45 minutes, and Mrs. Schneider, I do believe. Tracy, hello. She's awesome. You could see that Ty was doing the, well, more. He was walking back with four drinks every single time. He was probably like 50 yards away from us. Schneider was our MVP. We were watching. Schneider was big for our group as well. Ty was over there with him a long time. I got to tell his Ty story. I told him a beer in his pocket. He did. Opened beer in his pocket while he was drinking. That was phenomenal.

1:05:29Pat McAfee:Fight club, we don't want to give away too much. That's a good move. You need to know that that's happening. He's a goat. Yeah, he is incredible. And he's also going to go down as one of the goats. He's built two Super Bowl champions. With completely different rosters. Exactly, yeah. And he's a human. And he's the man. Yeah, which is a really cool thing. The league, you can see how special some people that are running the league are last night. Yeah, charismatic is a good word. And there are some people that are just magnets at these events. And everyone just goes to them, like flies on, you know what.

1:05:56And you have a few of those. Well, my favorite moment was, and I told this to Ty just a second ago, we're all having fun, whatever. And then I think Zito pulled me over and is like, look at how happy Ty is. He was sitting with Rob Domofsky and Matt Schneiderman and the three beat reporters from the Packers. And he was holding court with the three guys. And I'm like, this is the happiest. So Schneiderman over there. Who else was over there? Yeah, Wes Hodkowitz. Who works for the Packers. And then obviously Bob Domofsky. Yeah, the godfather.

1:06:24Pat McAfee:Shregs, I was saying, he was holding court with Green Bay. And then he went to Seattle at one point. Buffalo, a bit of Buffalo. Buffalo. Those guys were up front. That was a good little run. Joe Buck also had a nice little appearance. Good to see Joe. I mean, all the ESPN folks. Greg Olson. Yeah, G-Ray. Phenomenal scene. Olsen, I had dinner with Olsen. I'll tell you this. I had dinner with Olsen. I'm not going to embarrass him, but I will. Olsen, he gets a slider in his hand, all right, like a hamburger or whatever. Just all over the place, right on his shirt, and then all over the – that's a disgusting sound effect.

1:06:55Then all over himself, all over his pants. I think it's accurate, though. He's got just disgusting, like, meat sweats and meat stains all over him. And I look at him, I'm like, we can literally go right to my hotel. We can get you a new shirt, whatever. He goes, party starts at 7. Let's go, bro. He was in.

1:07:09Pat McAfee:Just floppy hair everywhere. He seems to be the least maintenance person. I love that his profession and how good he is. I mean, remember, that was a big story going into the year. Tom Brady's taking his spot. That's bullshit. I think everybody still feels that way, but we're all just kind of waiting to see where Greg Olson ends up. I think everybody likes Greg. Yeah. Greg needs a prime time. He does. He does. He needs to be on a prime time game every week. He is one of the best in the business when it comes to color commentary. Not saying a former teammate, but he's obviously awesome whenever you run into him.

1:07:37I'm the same guy, like you said, at least maintenance, but he is great on the mic.

1:07:41Pat McAfee:Fitz and Witt were there last night, as was Kaylee Hartung, the whole Amazon. She's awesome. Kaylee's great. That was a cool group over there. Troy, do you have any time with Troy? Troy was amazing last night. Troy Aikman? Yeah. No. I don't know how we are with Troy. Really? No, I think he's. Yeah, I like him. Troy's great. I was with Joe Buck for a long time. Buck's the best. They were in half the booth last night. Troy never comes on our show. Then Rich Eisen's first day on ESPN at noon, he's on the show. Okay. So Troy always tells us, can't do it. No, sorry, it's impossible. First day Rich is on.

1:08:11Pat McAfee:Troy's like, get me on that fucking show. So I won't take it as a personal heat, but I do not know. We don't know Troy like that. On that note, Joe Buck was legendary. Yeah. He's called six Super Bowls. This is about to be his seventh Super Bowl. He's outrageously talented and has a story for literally everything. Everything, every person. Yeah, he was phenomenal. Burke, I think, did a great job at this thing last night. Burke Magnus. This used to be his gig. Yep. These types of events. He might be the best in the history at these types of events. And he was. He was put on an absolute show. It was good to see everybody, man.

1:08:41Pat McAfee:It was fun. Jay Glazer. Jay Glazer. Glaze. Okay, let me tell you about Glaze's event last night. Our best. Yesterday. So he takes great pride in this. I worked with Jay for many years at Fox. Two of us have a very good relationship, even though I am now playing for the other squad, right? Glaze every year takes great pride in that. On Monday from 1 to 3 at the annual league meetings, He tries to get as many coaches as he can for a heavy drinking session, hang session, all that stuff. And here it is. Jay got 18 of 32 coaches. 28. 28, sorry, 28. Brought Michael Phelps, brought Mark Kerr, I believe.

1:09:20Smashing machine, sure. Shout out to my favorite guy, Dwayne Johnson. And he played that well. I'm not really a huge fan. I don't know him at all.

1:09:29Pat McAfee:Anyway, that's fine. I think he is the man, though. I think you can say that. Yeah. I think he went right into Mal. I like Emily Blunt. She was fantastic in that movie. And I think Rock and Emily Blunt are kind of in a lot. Yeah, they've been in a few. Yeah, Dwayne's the man. I think you should not feel bad about complimenting Dwayne. Dwayne is pretty good. People attacking him for the hair thing, the live-action Moana. I saw that. It's like it's The Rock, dude. And that's how Mal he looks. That's what the character calls for. Yeah, he is Mal. That's Mal. Yeah. You're okay complimenting. So Jay's thing, I was just like, enough with The Rock.

1:09:59Pat McAfee:I don't know him. Jay's thing. Papa Tui's so good. Papa Tui's awesome. Zoa. Yeah, Terramana. Right. Yeah. Ush. Yeah. Ushus. What do we think of a live Moana? I'm excited for it. The Rock's going to kill it. They better amp up the colors. Let me tell you something about the live Moana. Listen, I can go on and on. I can explain every natural phenomenon. You know the song. There's a guy named Bo Flynn. I sat next to on a plane, and he's one of the producers of this movie. He was telling me they found a girl to play the role who has never done, and she won out of an open audition, and it's one of the great Hollywood stars.

1:10:34So I am rooting for this girl. I don't know her name, but she's going to be Moana and she's never done any of this stuff before.

1:10:38Pat McAfee:And we would like to say The Rock needs one on the scoreboard as well. We would like this to do very well. It'll make a billion dollars. The Mark Smashing Machine didn't do as well. Does not mean the guy's not an absolute legend. Critical got very, I think it's a Safdie Brother film. The critical reception was fantastic. On that note, dude was there yesterday with Michael Phelps and 28 coaches with Jay Glazer. So they're all there drinking. It leads into the whole thing. But the big question mark was, will Mike Tomlin show up? Because Tomlin and Glazer started this thing 18 years ago. So I was thinking maybe, maybe Tomlin comes from wherever he's been watching his daughter doing gymnastics, almost like with the American flag, like Roger's out of the tunnel.

1:11:15Like, let's. And he shows up. He's like, let's go. Tomlin did not show up. So 28 of 32. And we were hoping for an emeritus role from Tomlin. But Tomlin has not been seen at the league.

1:11:24Pat McAfee:We have not seen him. We would have tried to find him. We did see all the Steelers were there last time. Mike McCarthy, also MVP at his thing. He was one of the four, I do believe, that were not at Jay Glazer's thing. Now, Jay Glazer told us, Mike's normally there. As I said, Mike was in the middle of potentially talking to... I heard he was in some meetings. He's potentially actually talking to the quarterback. He could be doing two things at once. He could be at these, but he could also be working very hard on acquiring something. Hey, you got to put your mic up by your mouth. You won an Emmy.

1:11:54Pat McAfee:Remember that? Yeah. Sorry, when he gave one of these. Yeah, we do not want you to hold back from doing... Yeah. So you continue to. I'm trying to bring the juice. And if I do that and I lose my microphone, thank you for backing me up, guys. Yeah, no problem. You've got a handheld here, too. So if you get too bad, you just go ahead and grab it. Go ahead, Ty has a question for you, Shreggs. So how much, we asked Shepty this, like how much actually gets done last night? Like are guys actually talking about stuff? Like what is your kind of. Combine is where things are, you're getting your nuggets because free agency is coming up.

1:12:25So it's like, all right, which agents met with which teams? And we've now narrowed down Kenneth Walker. I knew at the Combine was likely going to be a Kansas City Chief based on the conversations that we're having. And it's not legal tampering. It's like, all right, what's the roster composition? Who's there? And what do they need? And what are the Chiefs focusing on? Whatever. This is the one week where it's really laid back. So what your best bet is, if you're someone like me, is build a relationship. Go up to someone you might not know that well. I personally had no relationship with Brian Schottenheimer before yesterday.

1:12:55I went up to him. We had a coffee. We did NFL Live. We talked for 20 minutes. have his number now brian schottenheimer is someone that i can go up to and have a cool yeah that was a big win no but you do that shot is awesome and it's that it's that times 32 it's you're talking just now just talking to mandy shanahan kyle's wife who i've met before but we're just having a casual conversation whatever kyle comes by we talk it's more about relationships and getting those contacts and saying hey okay we are humans we are working together here i'm here if you need me i also will be reporting the news but there's a face behind the tweets and i understand you guys, you know, however I can help you, but also vice versa.

1:13:32Let's talk and let's have an open dialogue. So this is where that really is established.

1:13:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a good for the league. This is very good for the league. I was kind of out on it. I thought it was all a bunch of bullshit. And then last night I saw how in everybody was. Yeah. Mark Davis is sitting four feet away from you. Yeah. I mean, just sitting there smoking a cigar. Turn to look at him. Holy shit. Nice to see you, man. Hey, good to see you guys. Just so happy. Sitting by himself. I'm like, you've been coming to these your whole life. Yeah. these are really good. And then I asked him, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this because that's all off the record in there. According to sources that were sitting very close to me last night, I don't think he's getting out of ownership.

1:14:13Pat McAfee:Just, I don't know if that's breaking news or not, but there was a bunch of things being said that he was going to get run out, basically. From my understanding, I don't think that's going to be the case. No, no. I don't think it's the opposite. I think it is see you guys in the next 30. Yeah. He was electrifying. He's the best. Yeah, he is. He's a character. There's also a thing about this where like. Vibes. Characters are welcome in this. This guy's vibes. You know, like characters. Yes. So like Todd Munkin is a character. Like I was talking to him about like character. And like that's maybe some of these guys don't have nine to five jobs at the accounting firm.

1:14:47There's a place for them in the NFL. If you can coach, if you can own, if you can talk, if you can be a GM. Everyone's so different and so unique. and yet the melting pot is this league and the love for the game and the paths. It's cool to see everyone intersect.

1:14:59Pat McAfee:I wanted to be in Mark Davis' aura there, basically. Sure. Just huge smile. Mm-hmm. Always. Just huge smile on his face. Just a huge smile. Just sitting there by himself, just smoking a cigar, smiling. Fitz walks over. Hey, how you doing? Good to see you. That's a big smile. He goes, yeah, I'm just happy, man. And I turned to D-Bot. Mark Davis just said, he's just happy. And D-Bot goes, well, why wouldn't he be? We did a full cheers to him. He was not drinking. He was just smoking a cigar. But we did a full, like, good for you, dude. And that was just like a casual four minutes last night. It's outrageous that we were there.

1:15:33D-Bone has a question for you. I enjoyed it, Mike. You just brought up Todd Monk, you know. And obviously, we talked about Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Haslam, the owner, and said, Shador has been in the building. New number. Shout out, Shador. But if you had to place a bet right now, week one, who's Todd Monk is starting? Oh, I was just sitting with him at the coach's breakfast, and I was listening to every word. So Deshaun Watson, he has spoken to, but Watson, I don't think has been around as much. And then Shador has been there every single day. Then Dylan Gabriel has not been there and they can't play football yet, but they can all be in the building and work out and everything.

1:16:04So if I was to put a bet right now, I would say Shador is likely in the lead spot just on the fact that he finished off last year and has been in the building and all that. But they are hoping that, yeah, Deshaun Watson's on the roster, that this guy can actually compete for the job. I don't envision them taking quarterback at six. And despite him knowing Ty Simpson very well, because he knows Ty's dad, Jason Simpson, from their college days, I don't think quarterback in the first round for the Cleveland Browns.

1:16:31Pat McAfee:Okay, I think everybody's kind of saying that that has information. We'll see how it all goes. Obviously, all you need is one person to change their mind on a very important night to make a decision on draft night that kind of changes it. Deshaun Watson playing football again, good for the Browns. Would be a little trip of nostalgia back whenever ball was ball. Let's go back when ball was ball and the Fanatics flag football game. You kind of alluded to this yesterday. Go ahead, Tony. Yeah, you did, Triggs. When you talked to us about Odell and his comeback, and then I saw a report from a guy who I believe is real, Dan Duggan, about Odell being here yesterday because he's in Arizona and potentially meeting with the Giants yesterday.

1:17:04Is that the latest news on the potential return of Odell to the New York Giants? He was spotted at this hotel, as Dan has that. I can't tell you how legitimate a spot would be, but having spoken with giant sources after that breakfast where Harbaugh was completely just over the moon about Odell, I wouldn't close that door at all. It has to make sense. Look, not only do they need a receiver and not only does Odell want to be back in the NFL. And I think the giants would be a great place. There's still a lot of love for Odell Beckham in that giants organization ownership on down. So when they were having their Odell moment in 2013, 2014, and he was doing the one-handed catches.

1:17:43It was a really cool time for the Giants fans. And I would tell you that there is a lot of love from the highest levels for Odell Beckham.

1:17:50Pat McAfee:Okay, let's go to the truck. A man who's a diehard Giants fan, who while you were talking about, you know, the Odell Beckham Jr. love over there in New York, and as a Giants fan, I believe a man who was potentially walking these grounds yesterday and maybe had eyes on the situation. Also a guy who would love to see this happen alongside Malik Neighbors, Jackson Dart, and why not have Fofo in the back doe there with Scadaboo? Bruce Brown, your thoughts on how this is all kind of playing out? He texted me, too, and he said, Shregs kind of alluded to this yesterday. Just Bruce would like to have it.

1:18:21Pat McAfee:It feels like. And he was in my ear while Shregs was talking there saying, hey, I can also legitimize this. Bruce, if you would like to double down or add anything on the Giants beat that you saw last night? Yeah, I'm actually pretty confident that I am the one who spotted it. Okay. And said, holy shit, I can't believe that's going on right now. What did I say? I said, it could happen, I think. And then it was confirmed. Yeah. That's it. Bruce is the source. That's good reporting. Jordan Renan, we met him yesterday. Yeah. He looks very cool. Yeah. This guy walked onto this 120 degree astroturf, or I'm sorry, astroturf, cement here.

1:18:55Pat McAfee:He had suit. The hair was perfect. Oh, he walked up. We appreciate him. Chris from Altos. Yeah. Jordan's a good man. Good man. Good man. He had good energy. Bruce, though, as soon as you saw him, so excited about his life. He felt a little tingle everywhere. where he walks right up to him and starts chatting with him. The OBJ thing feels like he's going to be a Giant. When would OBJ want to do that, and when would Harbaugh want that? Oh, I think OBJ would be down to do it tomorrow if it's possible. I think the Giants are waiting out and seeing how things are going. They're not in any rush, but I think there is mutual interest.

1:19:23I'll say that.

1:19:24Pat McAfee:Okay, I love to hear that. Storylines continue to brew out here in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, for the number one league in the world. Conman has a question for you, Shraig. Yeah, Shraig, you mentioned the Shanahan's earlier, so I'll ask you about what Kyle mentioned about how, hey, we've got to go 19 hours to Australia. you basically travel in time, whether that's forward or back up to you. Hey, is there anything positive about that, coach? As of right now, no. It feels like my entire team is going to be screwed for a month after this entire thing. What is kind of the vibe? Is that the vibe right now with the entire game?

1:19:55And then also I want to ask you the Trent Williams situation. That quietly feels like it's massive, but it's just kind of at bay right now because no one really wants to pay him or make a huge trade for Trent Williams. Where are they at with that? Let's start with the international piece. It's not going anywhere. If the NFL has told us anything over the last three days, flag football and international are their two biggest priorities, and they want to really expand. And with the international piece, the Australia thing, they have now changed the date to the start of the NFL season from Thursday to now Wednesday, and that's when the Seahawks are going to play.

1:20:29Then the Rams and 49ers are going to play on Thursday, which is not traditional. And if you're the 49ers, say, okay, I understand the league has these initiatives. this is a lot. And they're going a week early to go prepare for this game so their sleep and their bodies can all be adjusted. That's a lot. That's also a divisional rival. It's a huge game when you play the Rams. Talk to the Rams guys. They haven't decided what they're going to do. Traditionally, when they go to London, they usually just fly right in. Stick with it, Shrink. There's a yellow cap that just showed up. There's billionaires everywhere.

1:20:59A yellow cap just showed up. All right. Go ahead, Shrink. The Rams, when they go to London last year, they flew in, they flew out, and they're like, we're not doing the whole song and dance. We're coming in. You're not going to see us. We're going to be like ghosts. We're going to come in. You can't do that with Australia. So this initiative for the league is enormous. And yet the coaches are feeling a little unfiltered here. And Kyle Shanahan saying from a football perspective, this is obviously not ideal. They're playing at 1035 in the morning in Melbourne, Australia.

1:21:24Pat McAfee:Yeah. I, uh, to start the season like that, it feels like you're going to be catching up. That's crazy. The chiefs last year, and it wasn't complaints, but they said, you know, going to Brazil and then the Packers the year before that going to Brazil to start to, it's not ideal. I understand the league has their initiatives, and we're going to do this, and it's what we want. We want to expand the game. But from a strictly football standpoint, you want 1 o 'clock Eastern on a Sunday. Everybody's got to just deal with it. It is. It's it. And the game will continue to grow, you know, because Australia will like our sport.

1:21:53Pat McAfee:Now, granted, 1035 a.m., I'm excited to see how much they like our sport. It's a huge game to send to Australia. Massive. It's an enormous game. I don't want to say anything. It's a championship preview. Exactly. And I don't want to say anything about the Jags, okay, because we love where the Jags are. He was like, it is the brand new Jags for you. Liam Cohen's a dog. We love Stoner. The Kahn family has done their entire thing. But London for a long time was Jags who can't sell out their stadium. Send that shit to England. They own a soccer team over there too, so they know they lay the land over there.

1:22:23Pat McAfee:Send them to England. They were going to become England's team. That was almost like the initiative. This is a gigantic game just to send all the way to Australia for the first time. Granted, Australia has contributed to the NFL numerous times, especially with the punting techniques that are all over the place, let alone the actual Australians that have been punting. I think there's an Aussie baseball player that's very good. Jordan Maialata. Offensive lineman who's very good. So it's like the Australian body type is good for American football. I think they would, especially the punting, everything.

1:22:52Pat McAfee:I think their game catching, like once guys start getting into the football thing. I think it's only going to continue to grow in Australia. But man, the timing is difficult. and to send two top teams down there to begin the season, they're opening up for a lot of people to be pissed off about the teams playing like shit afterwards. Granted, if they defeat it, though, because if you fall asleep and wake up in the morning in Australia, technically in your life, you should just wake up on pace. I assume they have a bunch of science for it. I did this last offseason. I was going to say, you went, right?

1:23:24Pat McAfee:It took me three, four days to feel like I was packing. They're going a full week ahead of time. Yeah, so I think they should be good, especially professional athletes. but it's crazy to put our two, these are two. And those are what I would say crown jewel franchises. And I think that's what they're saying to Australia though. It's like, Hey, we respect. We're not just going to give you a Jags Browns or whatever. Like we think, and I think it's going to grow. I think it's going to be good for the game. Ultimately with cows and the game, I guess we're spreading other than I have no idea any positives and he didn't deliver it that way, but that's probably I'll tell you, they had meetings in there yesterday and I, I'm not, privileged enough to be in those meetings.

1:24:02They're just for the owners and the people on the committees. When I tell you that this flag, and you mentioned with Adam that this Tomorrow Sports or whatever the company is, it does TGL is doing a professional flag football league. That is going to be a massive initiative for this league to get behind it. Oh, stop. So it was a, it was, it's a very big initiative to now have a piece in a professional football league that the NFL is very behind with equity partners that are you know the private equity that are the temperate whatever it is and then international is massive and so we're gonna flip over every stone

1:24:37Pat McAfee:everybody can play it too pads helmet the whole thing not as easy in some of these yeah women men not as easy in some places if you don't have the full foundation academy kind of coming through it flags just so easy flags are just so easy to get everywhere seven on seven don't need a full 11 on 11. He can do 5 on 5. Obviously, he can do 4 on 4. I love the flag initiative. Now, I don't think we should be just acting like it is football, though. I think we learned that with teams. I think it is great for football. It is incredible for football. I saw you use my quote from Peyton. I sat at his table for the breakfast, and Sean was preparing for like two weeks for that game and thought that he had a playbook and he was ready and he was a lunatic and didn't want to lose.

1:25:19And he's like, it was a very humbling experience.

1:25:21Pat McAfee:Did the players think they were going to beat those guys? Yes. Bamboozling. Even with the retired guys and Logan? Yes. Luke Kuechly said, you know what? We're going to be okay. Who told them they were going to be okay? Fanatics. Definitely. I assume they weren't doing it to get their ass kicked on national television. That's what I'm saying. I think there had to be a bamboozling that took place. These guys actually thought they were going to win, right? Yes. And Peyton treated it seriously. Brady treated it very seriously. These guys were like, they were, and he said it was a humbling experience, and then And I said it.

1:25:53He said, I would be shocked if we have an NFL player on this Team USA in 2028. It's a different sport.

1:25:58Pat McAfee:I don't think our guys are going to want to do it. No. Burrow, I'm told, and this isn't from Sean, this is from people who are – Burrow, I'm told, is hell-bent. He wants to win an Olympics. He got tackled three times in the flag. Burrow ain't hoosh. Yeah, so we're happy about that. And also, he's a player. But I don't know if he has the elevator sixth floor to second floor. No. Back up to the seventh floor, down to the first floor. The question is, and it's, you know, I talked to Olsen for a while who called the game. And I was talking, he said, you know, the question is, if you say Kyler Murray, who would be great at flag football, can you commit, would you be willing after the season to give us like a month of hardcore training?

1:26:33No. It's tough to ask these guys in the offseason, you know, like, hey, you're going to commit to this? Because Hoosh Doucette has been training his whole life for this. And it's a different sport. Not damn right. And Hoosh got that dog in.

1:26:45Pat McAfee:Are you kind of a Hoosh Doucette guy? Well, I'm just saying, like, hey, if we want to win a gold, like, we don't need Joe Burrow being the quarterback of our team. We need fucking Hoosh and no one else. We'll see it. We're talking about Hoosh Doucette here. Not some guy. Yeah. So he's not just a full-time quarterback, as you know. Joe could be on the team and Hoosh Doucette could be on the team. He also plays slot wide receiver. I don't need Hoosh catching balls. I need Hoosh dropping dimes and pulling flags. The thing that Olsen said was maybe the most surprising for them, the players, because he spoke to them, and Greg was like, I think they thought they were going to throw the ball, and it was going to be like, hey, three-step drop, pass.

1:27:24It's a lot of laterals. It's all sorts of different movement. Yeah, we don't know the rules. You don't even know if you don't have a draft. Bamboos gimmicks.

1:27:32Pat McAfee:Tom Brady's going three-step drop looking like. I would just like to say, because what flag football did in Indianapolis, did they do the world championship or something in Indianapolis? They did. On NFL Network. Yes. I went and watched. Did you go? I went and watched. It was at Butler. So I went and watched this thing. And I did not grow up in the flag football era. We did not have a lot of flag football. We didn't have it in my town either. I'm happy it exists now. Trying to get sanctioned as school sport in high schools for women and girls and men and everything like that. Which it should. I was part of a commercial.

1:28:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, scholarships. We think it's great. We love it. I did not grow up in knowing what flag football was, though. I don't really understand it as much. So I went and watched that thing at Butler, and I was like, that little doop-de-doo move. Like that is the game How can you learn that quick enough? And if you notice, they would do a dump down to Saquon And it was the flag guys The flag right away Immediately Right away And then when they would get it And Kaelin Ramsey actually did tackle And then there was a couple moments where the NFL guys were like I'm about sick of these little punks And then there was a couple extra contact And it's like, well that's a penalty actually It's like, well what are we supposed to do?

1:28:41Pat McAfee:Grab the flag, it's impossible They've been doing it for years Yeah, I thought if the boys knew they were playing at Team USA, we did not know they were playing the good guys. No, I didn't. We thought it was Cobras versus Vipers. Yeah, exactly. That's what we thought it was. Which, in hindsight, the NFL guys might have preferred. Oh, yeah. Definitely. If I would have known they were playing Team USA, I think I, as a person that has a microphone in front of me every day, would have said, we are betting on the Team USA ones for sure, just strictly because I'd seen it in person. If the boys are being told you'll be okay without even watching these guys play, that's on them, but it's also middle of their offseason.

1:29:19Pat McAfee:So whoever was telling them and feeding them the information that they're going to be okay, I think he kind of set the boys up. Was Team USA always supposed to be there, or were they there because it got moved? I think it was by the combine I knew that that was the case, and that was before it got moved. So, yeah, I think it might have been. You knew Team USA was going to be there? Yeah, at the combine. Did you tell the players? Yeah, because Sean Payton was telling me at the combine, I remember that it was legends and it was the current guys, and there's going to be the Team USA piece. Yeah. Legends and leaders.

1:29:46You would think they wouldn't even believe it either way. Like, if you're telling Tom Brady and Joe Burrow, like, careful now. These guys, they can play ball. Like, you would assume just a competitor in those guys. Okay.

1:29:57Pat McAfee:And I understand that. I appreciate that, actually. Yeah, right. I think Peyton had the right word. And then once you see it, it's like, okay, there is a very legitimate skill to pull a flag and to do the elevator thing and the twisty turning thing. And knowing the rules immediately. Yeah, knowing the rules. Exactly. Yeah, all the rules. The cross route. Yeah. It is. We had no chance. Coach Payton should have showed him some hooch film. Put the fear of God in those guys' hearts. He had a playbook. He had a playbook. He told me. He drew up a playbook. Did they have film? Did he text these guys video of hooch?

1:30:30Yeah. I don't know if he – I don't think he had the defensive game plan ready. But I got it. That's the problem. Who was DC? All right. Salah was with Shanahan and I believe Harbaugh was with Peyton. Yeah. I got a coach we needed on the staff. Who? We all know him. Yep, we do. Chuck Pagano. Nope, lives in California. Yep. That's some great cigars and whiskey. As a yacht. He would have helped a lot. He has a yacht. Yeah.

1:30:57Pat McAfee:He texted me yesterday. I'll tell you later, Shrek. He texted me yesterday the first time telling me that if I want to go get my ass kicked in golf by Pat Perez, I can do it. I saw his name. It was late night. I saw his name on my phone. And I was like, good to see this guy. We're talking about coach national champion. Yeah. JB. Coach JB. Yeah. He should. If he was given the reins to team USA, I don't know if there would be a single loaf in that entire time. No way. We respect. Yeah. All right. Now you get it. Now you get it. Anything we haven't talked about. Yeah. I got one for. I got a question for straight.

1:31:29Unless you were about to say something that actually means something. No. Go on.

1:31:34Pat McAfee:No. Hold on. Hold on. Please say what you're going to say. And then we will definitely get back. No, the other thing was last night before the big reception, the NFL unveiled that they're also producing partners on a real television show, a scripted television show, which is the first time they're doing this. It's with the guy who does This Is Us and Paradise, and it's called The Land, and it's about the Cleveland Browns. And it's going to be sold to an actual network. But the NFL is a production partner on it, which is another asset. In this media world now, the NFL is going to be producing things at an even greater scale.

1:32:05We're talking about a scripted serial show that the NFL is a production partner.

1:32:11Pat McAfee:So that's a relationship with Skydance, I do believe, which is owned by Paramount, which is now partnered with the NFL to create scripted, non-scripted feature film series about football stories. You know how everyone is a media company when all the NFL is a media company. Yeah, certainly are. And the people they hire are all, like NFL Films obviously involved with that as well, the way they're shooting everything. It's like they try to find the Scorseses of these stuff. That Fogelman, he did, obviously, This Is Us, and I think he also did Parenthood, maybe. He's got a long, but he's also a diehard Browns fan.

1:32:39Pat McAfee:Oh, nice. Yeah, should be great. I think the NFL, from my understanding of the relationship with Skydance, said there's so many stories that we would like to be able to tell that just, you can't just do a documentary for everything. Yeah. Like, we would like to tell these stories. And it's a growth of a league, and obviously, we understand this more than they expand Skydance sports into the preeminent global sports content studio. It's like the NFL is pop culture. The NFL is society. It's like it is society now. So them just starting their own stories and telling their own tales, how they want to tell it and what needs to be told or something that they think should be something that's told, seemingly inevitable.

1:33:14Pat McAfee:Yeah. Seemingly inevitable. And I think like this will actually work with the buy-in from the NFL because that always like if you watch a football movie or anything, like it takes you like any given Sunday. It takes you out immediately. The sharks. Yeah, these aren't NFL teams. But if like the NFL is actually working. That's why draft day actually works. Yeah, exactly. Because you see the Seattle Seahawks logo. Right. You see the Browns logo. Bo Callahan. I love Bo Callahan. Kobe Fleener with a pancake block during the credits. That's kind of sweet. It might be Stanford's own. Yeah, it might be his best block he's ever had in the NFL, Kobe Fleener.

1:33:42Pat McAfee:I think he pancaked somebody during the credits. I was so happy. I love that. I was like, they put you over pretty big during the credits, bro. He had his head down fucking driving that thing. It was a full on. Nobody going to that guy's birthday party, though, did give us a little insight. Yes, it did. And how everybody kind of views this entire thing. I like that they're doing that. What else are they talking about today? You said Goodell's talking later? Goodell's going to do a press conference later. Oh, wait, wait. Pause. Yeah. Rules have broke. NFL owners have approved four rule changes per source.

1:34:08Pat McAfee:Shrigs, give us your opinion on the competition committee permitting the kicking team to declare an onside kick at any time during the game. So last year it was only a fourth quarter two-minute thing, and they said, all right, let's scrap that. Let's go back to what it was. Just have to announce it. Yeah. Can't surprise onside kick, but we can do one in the first quarter if we're Jeff Fisher and we're playing against Peyton Manning. Oh, yeah. He did three of those Titans versus Colts. Colts won by 50. By competition committed to eliminate the kicking team's incentive to intentionally kick the ball out of bounds when kicking off from the 50-yard line.

1:34:35Pat McAfee:Okay, so that's just going back to where the touchback would be as opposed to half the distance. Every team that kicked it out of bounds looked like super geniuses, but the rule looks stupid. The league looks stupid. It looked dumb, and it happened Monday night first game when we had on the broadcast, I think Troy and Joe or even the Manning cast were like, wait, I would just kick it out of bounds. You don't want to kick it and get a return. So, like, yeah, just get rid of all that. Yeah, it just looks stupid. Extra strategy. Everybody looks super smart the first couple times it happened, and then at the end, it's like, this is so stupid.

1:34:59Pat McAfee:Why would you do this? Shout out to the kickoff, by the way, upping the amount of returns by like 1 ,500 or 2 ,000, I forget what it was, by competition committee to modify the kickoff alignment requirements for receiving team players in the setup zone. Okay, so Pellicera's not giving a lot of detail on what was exactly. That would be more your world than mine. I think it's the other returner is allowed to move, or the setup zone. I think they want to be able to at least move. I think they want to move people. There's a group of eight on the return team, I believe, that are locked. Like, they're just kind of locked.

1:35:28Pat McAfee:Not allowed to move. There's, like, an area. Then there's, what, two in the back. So, it must be nine in the locked area. Two returners in the back. Two returners have been allowed to move. I think they want to have one. I don't know. There's something else to the kickoff that they want to make it more expensive. This last one's fascinating, Pat. By competition committee for one year only to allow the NFL officiating department to correct clear and obvious misses made by on-field officials that impact the game. In the event that there is a work stoppage involving the game officials represented by the NFL Referees Association.

1:35:55Pat McAfee:As the NFL is saying, yeah, if these refs want to play a little hanky-panky, we'll certainly hop in a sack. If they don't want to ref, we'll ref. Now, who's controlling that? Park Avenue. Who, though? That'll likely be the Walt Andersons and the guys. You think he goes against the Referees Association? Oh, great point. That is a great point. Who's doing it? You're right. Is he employed by the league, though? Like if he's a league employee, he has to. He's a league employee. He runs the official city. So do we like that it's Walt Anderson now on every call? Okay. Troy Vincent is really the person who spearheads that whole department, and now it's a decision he makes.

1:36:31But I don't know if Walt, that's a fascinating ask, if Walt goes with his old colleagues who are the rest, or if he's a, I'm a league employee now.

1:36:38Pat McAfee:Because let's talk like Starator. Starator is obviously with CBS right now. Yeah. But he's not going to crack. That's what Tomlin should do. Mike Tomlin should do that. Just call every. Jim Schwartz for a year did that when he was out of work. He said, I'm going to go work and learn from the officials and did that and worked in the league office. Maybe he does it again. Chuck Pagano did the same thing. I believe he learned from the officials as well. And I think you see a lot of coaches and players want to learn more because they've probably been jaded by some terrible calls. And they're like, I've got to learn a little bit more about this.

1:37:05Pat McAfee:But if they're going to have the eye in the sky for every one of these games, who's looking at the eye? That's a whole other question. That's a good question. I think ex-coaches would be good, especially try to find the ones that have been jaded by a terrible call. They'll be a little bit more motivated. I think you can put them in there. But not every coach is going to be good at it. I mean, that's certainly not going to be the case. Walt Anderson, no offense. You gave us a great 15 years out of your 30-year career, I think. I think there was probably a good 15 in there somewhere at the beginning.

1:37:31Pat McAfee:Very, very thankful for him. But we don't want Walt Anderson on every call, do we? Like you said, he's been a ref for how long? You think he's just – these are all his buddies. These guys hate him forever if all of a sudden he's – there's no way he's going to do this. The territory won't crack. I assume Blandino. I don't think any of them. Legitimately, I don't think any of them. That's how the refs union. Very strong. Brotherhood. Very, very, very strong. What do you think of the one-year thing? I remember we had the pass interference could be reviewed for one year, and then they immediately pulled the plug.

1:38:00Do you think it's because of the labor strife that they would offer this, or it's more that the NFL overall wants the ability to say, hey, we're going to go for it.

1:38:07Pat McAfee:Right here, they get public leverage over the NFL Referees Association, but they also get a chance to experiment on what they can do in the future. Just like what baseball is doing with ABS right now. They experimented a lot with that, right? Experiment, experiment, experiment, experiment, experiment, experiment. And then, boom, we roll it out. Now it's one of the most exciting things. And people love it. Love it. Except the oomphs. Bingo. Which, who might not love this? The refs. So they're also getting a chance to kind of utilize the technology that we've always wanted them to potentially utilize.

1:38:32Pat McAfee:And that could be a vision of what the future looks like in the NFL. Referee Association doesn't want that. You're giving them an opportunity to maybe explore with robots. Maybe that public leverage will get them into a negotiation where they're able to make an agreement. Remember, the refs say the NFL is not even showing up to negotiate. The NFL is saying you're not even moving anytime we do this. So, like, it's a real standoff right now, it feels like. The refs' point is we are paid peanuts compared to the NBA and compared to the MLB, and also we don't even get health benefits. So, yes, you want us there earlier, but where is it?

1:39:05And the NFL is saying, hey, you guys are operating on your own.

1:39:09Pat McAfee:The refs are also saying we don't want to be talked to for two months after the Super Bowl. we don't want to have to talk period is what they call it yeah we don't have to talk they we don't have to be full-time like there don't answer any questions in the floor yeah there's a lot of that and also nobody can get fired if you get senior like there's a lot of other stuff too that the refs are saying that i think we should be able to find a reasonable outcome there that's going to take a lot of um give up by the referee association do you personally i as i felt like yesterday your point to me about the d1 refs not going was the most illuminating thing i've heard on the topic and i said it on my own show i did the trigger hour afterwards and i was like Pat McAfee had the best point ever.

1:39:43You're not just going to get college refs raising their hands here. This is a job and a profession where they respect the hierarchy and they go up the ladder. The union, yeah. The union and all that. You made a great point. I feel like you've been very clear and you've been very perceptive in the moment on a lot of this stuff. I feel like, not that I'm asking you to be this person, but you have a real passion for the rules, it seems like.

1:40:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, I hate these refs. Okay. Sorry, I like the good refs. I like the good refs. Who was your favorite ref when you were a player? I like Gene Steratore. He's a Pittsburgh guy. He ends are Italian. He's the greatest. He's the GOAT. Ed Hockey Lee was awesome. There was a couple others that I enjoyed. Cleet, I enjoyed interaction with Cleet pretty well. Anybody that had Moxie, that was a white cap, I liked. You liked that? Yes. Because some players are like, it's not about you, dude. No, I agree, but you're speaking for the game. So whenever you have an ISO with 50 million people watching, I think you have to have some Moxie.

1:40:34Pat McAfee:I think you have to have some confidence. Who's the other guy? The Big 12 crew? I love the Big 12 crew. Yeah, yeah. They need to be just given a primetime slot. Are they good? Unbelievable. In the college football playoffs. But they will not. No, no. They will never break the code. Bingo. Yeah, because they can't. Ethics. Because they're definitely going to be in the NFL. There's just, what is that, the biggest games in the Big 12? They have a crew that just does those games? Yeah, you get voted into it. They did the college football playoffs last year and then the college football playoffs this year.

1:40:58Pat McAfee:They were selected for the national championship, but also two of the college football playoff games, which is kind of... I don't remember a single bad call in any of those games. Boys, let them play. Yes. Very consistent. Very consistent. Not scared either. like Whitecap, not scared of the moment. 30 million people, 40 million people watching. Give me this thing. Let me go ahead and deliver for the good of ball. And also whenever there was a kickoff. Yeah, he's got moxie too. He's got real moxie. Throw the arrow. He's down at the other end, you know, and they blow for the kickoff to start when everybody's set.

1:41:22Pat McAfee:They check with the two side refs. Then they check with here. Then they count the people. And then they send it basically to the side ref. I think that's there. Then that side ref runs off the field. Then the kicker is to go, right? So there's a whole thing. He had different sends to the kicker. He threw one a couple times, like a football, as he blew it. He took a... Yeah, took one out of the quiver. Michael Vanderbilt. That's his name. So this is a college ref that we think, and his crew, would do fantastic in the NFL. On that note, would never break. He's got a scab. He wouldn't have a scab.

1:41:55Pat McAfee:Because they know they're going to have to deal with this association, what, in a year, two years they're going to be in there? And that's like every good ref's goal. So I'm telling you, that fail Mary time was so bad. Just so, so, so bad. Two games, right? Was that what it was? How many? Three? That was longer than that. That was longer than that. Because I remember I did. What year was that? 2012? Three or four, maybe? Delmarie, 2011? Five, maybe? Yeah, I thought it was into October. Was it that long? It was long. Because I remember when they returned, I remember Jeff Triplett did a Packers game and gave a hero's welcome, and they were an outstanding ovation from the fans.

1:42:25And then I did Baltimore and Sterritory was there, and the crowd stood up. And for the first time ever, the refs were like, well, thank you. Thank you. We're back. And then a week later, everyone was like, oh, screw these guys.

1:42:33Pat McAfee:Think about how much success, three games. First three weeks. Think about how much success. Was there another primetime game in the four, or is it just the finish of week three? I think the Hail Mary was the last game. It was Sunday night football, the Hail Mary was. So three weeks of that. Think about how loud it was, week one, week two, and then obviously week three. That ref union is very good. And I believe the guy that is leading. Scott Green. This is his last hurrah potentially too. So he was there doing that one. It's like, hey, boys, we will find ourselves with incredible leverage here.

1:43:02Pat McAfee:like absolutely incredible leverage we won't have to answer for anything everybody will have a job forever we don't have to be full-time like that i'll tell you i i remember this i was working on inside the nfl for showtime and that play happens to fail mary and we had we had the it's a ridiculous play we had the ref come on because immediately after the labor strife it's like he's going back to being a high school coach uh so he was on and he was a guest on inside the nfl and he's like it's My moment, too. I think he wrote a book. Jeez, yeah. That was their moment, these replacement guys. I'm telling you, we can't have it.

1:43:36Pat McAfee:Can't have it. Can't have it. I just can't. That would be like a work stoppage, in my eyes, detrimental to the NFL. But what about all the talk about Australia and the Dan Fogelman series and the flag football? This is what the priority has got to be. Especially with people gambling. Yeah. People gambling on the games. Why that accent? Gambling? Are you gombling right now? We got a little bit of a crowd back here. I have no idea how this has happened. Good to see you guys. Thanks for coming, guys. Good to see you. Hell yeah, team. All right. So what's going on here? Leaker trading. I'd imagine they're not thrilled about it.

1:44:15Great card store. The Biltmore, the people that are staying here.

1:44:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, but are these people staying here? Are these people at the Biltmore? I've seen a couple guys get out of Ubers. Yeah. I saw a yellow cab pull up. Yeah, bingo. I don't think they're all staying on the property. I don't think Jimmy Haslam is showing up in a yellow cab. But after he pays Deshaun Watson's deal, he might have. He might have. That's David Mulligeth of football. All right, Shregs, what else? Oh, actually. Yeah, I cut you off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My question, of course, which I remember, was. Yes, that's a great pull. Was, granted, it is early. Are you trying to find it right now, Steve?

1:44:50No, no, no. I did find it. They called this vamping. I found it, but I do want to preface it with, I know that it's early, but you are very good at pontificating things that are going to happen. And at this point, free agency has happened. All the hirings have happened. The staffs are kind of established. I personally, as far as who's going to be the Patriots of this year, I do love the giants because Harbaugh, a second year QB, things like that. The guys they signed like who right now are you kind of feeling out looking at everything they've done and they still have the draft camp and everything, but who do you have your eye on now as like a hey lions might miss the playoffs that was your one last year you nailed year before commanders you know making the playoffs making a run they go to the nfc title game like who right now are you kind of feeling almost as if a team that you might see you know doing very well or uh-oh don't look now they might uh they might be over the too early for the uh-oh because i'd like to see training camp on the uh-oh the team that is saying all the right things and seems to be building the right way, I do think the Ravens are going to come back with a vengeance right now.

1:45:53And I know the Max Crosby trade fell through, and I know this upsets tone in a real way, but talking to Minter, talking to DaCosta, talking to those guys, it's like they felt the impact of missing the playoffs, and that went from the top to the bottom. And they know that they had to scrap a lot of things and bring a lot of new faces and new voices. and I believe there is a urgency, a desire, and a freshness in that building where I think the Ravens are going to be very good. Are they going to extend Lamar? Because that was the other conversation. They didn't get an extension done with him, so is Lamar going to leave?

1:46:28I would imagine all that gets taken care of in the wash and it will happen, and it's not going to happen on our timeline.

1:46:33Pat McAfee:Okay, on their timeline. Steve Bishawty's timeline. Yeah, that's right. He is the man. Did you see him yesterday or no? Is he here? I haven't seen him, but he's also usually a fixture at these things. Cigar, same deal. Similar vibe than what you were saying. Oh, if I would have ran into Bashaudi. He's the man. Probably in the shadows. Doesn't want to be seen, but wants to be there. Yeah, you're right. Want to experience it, but don't want others to experience me. Remember, after they won it, I was here probably 12 years ago now. It was 2013. He was. I just got ears. He was there. Nobody wanted to tell me?

1:47:00Pat McAfee:Bashaudi. Bashaudi was sitting at this event, that same event. I did not see him. I didn't see him. Me either. Nobody saw him. I took a lap. Probably a great Gatsby. Oh, let me guess. Great Gatsby. Who was it? Yeah, you know who it was. Was it the$600 shirt guy? It was. It was a$600 shirt guy. It was an Italian shirt, though, I'll have you know. And nobody thought he underpaid for it after they found out he paid$600 for it. That's Bruce Brown. Oh, Italy, by the way. The Cleveland Browns. Shut up. That's Cleveland Browns nation now. Yeah. Italy. The fraud. That just reminded me of that. I forgot about that.

1:47:30That's a tough loss. Huge win for Cleveland. All the Browns fans. Great. We get Ireland. Everyone in Italy now has to be a Cleveland Browns fan. We get potato. What happened? They gave him the Italian market. Cleveland got Italy.

1:47:45Pat McAfee:Cleveland got Italy? Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. They took one look at Munkin and said, he's a friend of ours. And Pittsburgh got Potatoville. Excuse me. The Rooney family are ambassadors to Ireland. Yeah, yeah. Sherpa to Ireland. Pittsburgh ambassadors to Italy. Yeah, I would say Pittsburgh is a very Italian city. This is bullshit. Cleveland, I think they got Italian stewards. I'm done with the international series. By the way, this is the straw that broke my back. I will say, Tone, before he had the broken back from this particular straw, he said he's about sick of us having to send our product to these other countries.

1:48:19Pat McAfee:If these other countries don't like us, we don't send our game to them. It's America's product. If they want to come watch a game, get on a plane and come over, okay? I don't feel that way. I think the game should grow. I get the angle. I do get it. Tone hates it. Tone has been very— The only good part is that the game's on at 930 in the morning on Sunday. That's great. They like having that window, right? I love having that window. Wake up. I don't like sending our athletes to other countries. Okay? Injury risks. A lot of other risks. What if they were to send this show and this group to one of these markets?

1:48:52Which one would interest you the most? Ireland. Italy. Go back. You've already done it, though, for the Notre Dame game. I'm not going back. What about Paris? I can't survive.

1:49:00Pat McAfee:Paris would be the last one I think we would pick. Madrid? Germany. That would be electric. Paris already surrendered from us, our show going over. It's like a World War II show, guys. Yeah, really smooth. Yeah, really smooth. You nailed it. You'll watch that one back, and you'll say, and you high-five it. Yeah, that's smart. That is not why. We have a lot of French fans. Will you please? Do we? Yes. I don't think we do. Huge in French. Oui, oui, maybe. Bonjour. Bonjour. Bonjour. Bonjour. Bonjour. Bonjour. Bonjour. a week before a Saints game would be incredible. When I was 14, the McAfee show was in Paris.

1:49:35Pat McAfee:Yeah. It did not go well. Germany? Yeah. Germany would be sweet. I think Germany would be awesome. Italy would be crazy. Any of them would be sweet, man. It's always a festival. Whenever we played in England, it was just like an American sports festival. You saw basketball jerseys, baseball jerseys. You saw everything. But now that football is becoming more and more, it is a festival. So I think I'd like to go to anyone. Paris, though, you can go ahead and jot that one down. It's probably never. Why? The place smells awful. That's It's such a wonderful city. That is not why. I've heard it smells like that.

1:50:03City of romance, city of great soccer, and of course.

1:50:06Pat McAfee:I got married in Indianapolis. There's a lot of romance. Yeah, there is. There's a lot of romance out in Indianapolis. Why? Because they have a bridge that you put locks on? Oh, come on. No, it's the Shons of Lisanne. That's kind of cool. They were pooping in the Seine. It's the Shons of Lisanne. They still smell the Seine, so that might get us there. Wee wee. Breaking news in our group chat, by the way. Breaking news in the group chat. It is Ravens just texted Mr. Bishaw. He's not here, so that was a lie. Okay, I didn't see him. We would have told you. We wouldn't have missed him. He's the best.

1:50:37Pat McAfee:So Bruce said, I saw him. I didn't. Didn't tell you. No, I fucked that up. Who said he was here? I saw DaCosta. DaCosta was back corner, so I said back corner. That's on me. Or he was there, and then we are talking about him being here now, and he said, hey, make sure people know I'm not there. Like Kaiser so safe. Yes. Yeah, it is. Yes, yes. Guys are so sick. All right, this show's ending in two minutes. Thank God. We're not going to - By the way, France is not even in our top 23 countries watching this program. Really? I would - That's pretty crazy. I would expect a 50 to 60 there. How many countries are - Every time I find out how many countries - I love this.

1:51:12Pat McAfee:I think there's 163 countries. Give me a metric. Give me a country that we would be surprised with. It goes U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia, Germany, Mexico, India. Boom. The Philippines. I've always wanted to have an Indian show. since the beginning. We've got to do it. Because I think we have somebody hang around me that's an Indian person that speaks their language. Now, Grant, I think there's a lot of different languages in India as a whole. Just one of them. Kind of hang out, catch the vibe, deliver the whole show in my cadence. We're off in India. Now the tech does it already. That is incredible.

1:51:46Pat McAfee:Well, thanks. YouTube beat us to it. They do it to every single country, actually. What else? After India? Every single country. I did not know India was climbing like that, though. I'm happy to hear that. After India, it was the Philippines, Ireland, Netherlands, New Zealand, Indonesia, South Africa, Sweden, Japan, Spain, Italy, Singapore, Brazil, Venezuela, Switzerland, Malaysia, and Denmark. Panche. All before France? Yeah. I mean, that's what we got. I was there as a 14-year-old bro. I don't for it. They didn't like me immediately. Immediately, they did not like me. I mean, I got a cleat to the chest.

1:52:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'm telling you. If you want to know how a country feels about America, drop me in the middle of it. I'm not saying people know who I am, but they look at me and they go, that is an American. American. Put that on the billboard. That one right there. Yeah, I can tell just looking at it, that asshole. That's an American. And that is everywhere in the world. You drop me in the middle. I'll probably be able to tell you. France is 26. Bill just sent it. 26? We can probably go through there and see how people feel about Americans if we really want to dive into it. On that note, I love all of you.

1:52:44Pat McAfee:Japan would be cool. We'll be down.

1:52:54Pat McAfee:We'll see you guys tomorrow. We'll be back in the Thunderdome. We're going to be honest. The show's kind of let us down. League meetings didn't. It's been a blast. You all were the best. Have a good one. Goodbye. We battled through today. We covered all the news. Yeah, we've done it. We did ABS. We're still live, Shrakes. Peace. We had a hot mic earlier, too. Boys in the truck having one. It caught me saying, did your shirt take over a party list? That's what it got? Yeah. And on that note, there was some compliments to the shirt. It was a good shirt. It looked great. It was the only polo I had.

1:53:25Pat McAfee:Wore it golfing. You looked great. Thank you. I thought you looked great. Your shoes were cool, too. They're the only ones I brought. So I actually was looking to get some more shoes and a polo shirt. Turns out the mall here walked into Sex Fit Zombieland. No, Macy's was open. I went to Macy's. It was also a Macy's. It was tough finding a fit at Macy's. We were in there for a while. Nick got that cool fit at Macy's. And Nick kept telling people I bullied him into it. He and I saw that outfit. I thought Nick looked good. Yeah, exactly. There was a leather one that Connor could have wore. Yeah, I thought about it.

1:53:54Pants or jacket? Passing out. Shorts. All of it. Shorts. Leather shorts. Leather. Kind of like a whole headband, too. It would have stuck to me like gum. Like Big Mike's shirt. The time I walked outside, especially finding out, we didn't know the whole thing was outside. We didn't know anything. We didn't know anything.

1:54:11Pat McAfee:We didn't know nothing. They put our set right here in front of the whole thing. We know nothing about what's going on. Great set. Great set. Yeah. This has been unbelievable. Nobody can join the show, though, because all the sessions are happening while the show's. Yeah, exactly. So what we need to do if we do this again. I'm not committing to. But if we do this again, we need to pre-record the people whenever they're not in these sessions. Run them in this thing. Sunday night, we record a full show. Boom, that gets run Monday. Monday night, before a party, we record a whole show. Boom, that gets...

1:54:41Maybe we do the show at... Show at party. Or we do the show at Glazer's place.

1:54:45Pat McAfee:Or we just fly in for last night. That's not a bad idea. And then we fly out. Tell the same stories and have the same experiences. That, if I was to guess, I would assume next year, Can I tell you, though? They alternate East Coast, West Coast. So next year will likely be in Florida. Boom. That's what I'm talking about. We're in bed. We're in bed by 4 a.m. That place is beautiful last time we went to Florida. League meetings. Yeah, it was. Very nice. Yeah, it was. Remember the Harbaugh's? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But that's the thing. If it's on East Coast, that changes everything because then the meetings are 9 to 12 a.m.

1:55:17And so they will be able to come on the program between 12 and 3. Boom. Hap-ta! Yeah!

1:55:25Pat McAfee:Oh, that was all of us. Shregs kind of got left hanging there. Shregs, any final messages for the people who have had to sit through this one? I think it's been great. Yeah? I think it's been a real showcase for my talents and my ability to hang with the crew, so I'm exactly thrilled with this. This was a great episode. I loved it. I would say— I'll tell you what, Shregs. That's a great way to view it. Let's go. Well said. That is what it was. Makes me feel better. Yeah, Shregs, it was. Last night, I loved seeing you guys in the mix. I know that there was some apprehension from some of the boys, like, ugh, I don't want to be at someone that's so official.

1:55:53No. And it was fun. And the guard was down. And you guys were great. And you were celebrated in a way that I think you were a little surprised probably a little bit, right?

1:55:59Pat McAfee:A lot of people saying hello. That was very kind of everybody. A lot of people saying hello. We probably should have known because I think, you know, I mean, the NFL is not doing anything Mickey Mouse. I don't know why I was expecting us to go to like a Holiday Inn ballroom, just like a big open ballroom with like one bar and like a wedding. Yeah, and like a thing of like smoking. Because Combine, to be honest, is in a convention center. So you're thinking, oh, it's the same thing. This is a different deal. Yeah, and everybody here kind of knows the deal. Yeah. Everybody here knows the deal. Got 31 billionaires security walking around.

1:56:29Pat McAfee:You know, them tailing the families, too. Two things you'll like. The fleet of black cars that will show up when the sessions close out, that is always a sight to be seen. You have thousands of them. And then the second thing would be Goodell does a press conference. The second that press conference ends, like rats, everyone leaves. Yeah. What time is that press conference? It's usually a moving target when the meetings are over. So I would say usually later today, probably like 3 or 4 o 'clock. Would we be able to ask a question if we get in there? If you're a credentialed member of the media, you sure can.

1:56:57Pat McAfee:Good news. Boom. What would be your one question? As someone who did this from that side many, many years, you always get one question, and you don't want to ask a softball, and you don't want to necessarily ask someone that's going to be asked by someone else. What would be your one question to Roger Goodell? I don't know. It depends on how it was going. What are the other questions that have already been asked, Shrakes? You know, you can't just go in there with the game plan. You're going to start off with the ref's question. You're going to be asked about it. Yeah, broadcasting will be a question.

1:57:24There will be a question about maybe league initiatives, minority coaches. There will be some questions about our league points that are like talking points. And then they're going to be, all right, Pat McAfee, what's your question?

1:57:34Pat McAfee:I don't know. I've got to be in the room. I'd have to be in the room to see how it happens. Everyone said there's not a lot going on this year. That's a great thing for the league. Yeah, it is a great thing for the league. Not good for the refs. All right. I don't know who the – hey, how are you guys doing? Good to see you guys. You guys look good. Special. You guys look good. They look like hotel people. Thunderbirds. I don't know. Are they Thunderbirds? That's a good question. Sounds like they have a good lot. A good more people. Do we know if they can hear us if I'm not looking at them, those people over there that are by Fox?

1:58:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, there's audio over there. Yeah, they can. Okay, so I don't want to say anything. I was just going to ask who they could possibly be. You guys want to? Hey, you guys look awesome. Thank you guys for hospitality. Thank you. This place is great. Thank you. Thank you guys for what you do, man. Frank Lloyd Wright. That's right. We love this place. Do you know that... Do you think they're associated with a hotel? I think one of them might own it, actually. Bing Crosby wrote White Christmas from here, right? Get out of time. That's true. What? I think Guy in the Middle owns it. Okay, yes, this is president of Hotel.

1:58:33Pat McAfee:Hey, thanks for your service, buddy. Okay. We can tell. We can feel it. I like... Great job here. Well, they added the pickleball courts. It adds something. I appreciate it. We didn't get a chance to stay here. No, but we appreciate it. We've heard the room's unbelievable. Next time. It's getting sweaty. Of course it's nice, right? We didn't get a chance to play here, but preferred courses. Unbelievable. Guy's done well. This place is really nice. Yeah. Now, I've been told potentially that the Minnesota Vikings head coach is walking this way. Okay. I was certainly planning on ending this thing.

1:59:01Pat McAfee:Getting in the car. Yeah. Yeah. Guys are taking me back to God's country. Uh-huh. Amen. Get me home. That's what I was thinking about. So you won't be doing the Goodell Prescott. No chance. Yeah. The whole thing you were just setting up there. There's no way Andy Reid's walking out here with a little bit of a limp. Hell yeah, Andy Reid. Someone said knee surgery. Hell yeah, coach. Good to see you. Red. Battle. Battle.

1:59:24Pat McAfee:Is Kevin O 'Connell coming here? When? Do you know? Yeah, but like.

1:59:32Pat McAfee:I think he'd understand. You should send him back. Send him back. All right. We'll talk to Kevin O 'Connell another day. I'm excited to hear what he's got to say. I'm honored for that. To be honest, it's one of the worst ones we've ever done. Come on. Shreggs, you were great. Thank you. Shreggs, you were phenomenal. You got a chance to show up. I thought it was great. I got a showcase. Yeah, just, we couldn't have it, I guess. Exactly. The whole purpose of being here. Yeah. We're going to get all these coaches. And all these coaches. We can't get anybody. I waited for two hours for a head coach to do a taped interview for NFL Live, and I got blown off.

2:00:02So at least he didn't get blown off. And now we know next year. They were probably boozing. It will happen the way we thought it would. Yeah. In Florida. On American time. To the crew to piece this together, thank you all. You guys are amazing. Guys, thanks.

2:00:14Pat McAfee:Thank you. You. Best of the best. Even in the audio department. Zito's working right now. He's like, can't get out of here right now. No. He's telling him. Yeah. Catching it. Back in the truck. Appreciate you, boys. Good boy. Good boy. Way to go, Bruce. Really on top of all of it. Took a couple hacks. Took a couple hacks. That's what it's all about. You had the Odell, and then the Bishotti was like. To the police officers, thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you, officers. Thank you, officers. You guys are good. Zito, no rush. Little vitamin in the sky a couple different times. These cops didn't care about nothing.

2:00:52Pat McAfee:All right, we'll get out of here. If he's right here, I think. It's just a little information, you know. We're going to hit the Mike McCartney. Nah, it doesn't look like it. Nah, he's not. Say he's around here. I mean, if he gets here. Who's that in the blue? Is that Shadi in the blue jacket? Yeah. Where's Shadi? Coming out? Coming out of the intro. Underneath. Oh, we're not doing that. We had good call. We know what Shadi was doing last night. Shadi was awesome. He coached us in Indianapolis. Did he? Yeah, so that was our first. What was his? Quarterback. Okay. Yeah, I think he was quarterback coach.

2:01:23Pat McAfee:Were you on the team? Yep. Yeah, it was a nice catch-up with Shoddy. We gave him the full, like, you're the head coach of the fucking Dallas Cowboys. How cool is that? That's crazy. He was telling me he was 32 years old when he was an offensive coordinator. That's pretty young. That's pretty cool. And now he's at this stage in his career. Yeah, him talking about his dad last night a lot. Yep. There's a lot of stories about his dad. It was really cool. It's cool. It was a late night conversation, but it feels like he is. Very thankful for the opportunity. Pumped and also like... They feel good about the Cowboys.

2:01:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're going to do this. They feel good about the Cowboys. They feel really good about the Cowboys. Very good about the new D.C. too. Yeah. Parker. Yes, definitely. That was a good part of the conversation. All right, we're ending this. I'm out. Hey, hotel people, good work. Thanks, guys. Come on, hotel people. Stay here, Strax. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Boys, great work out here. You great work. Nobody embarrassed the program too bad. I'd say. No, I think we did good. I mean, there was some loud speaking in places, I think.

2:02:20Yeah, a loud restaurant.

2:02:21Pat McAfee:But after what I saw from the NFL last night, we're good. I think kind of a different setting, but I do agree with what you're saying. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Officer. Officer. What up? What up? There we go. Team on me. Keep on. There we go. There we go. We're going to head back to Indianapolis, Indiana. We are grateful to Arizona for being fantastic every time it's here. Thank you to the NFL for allowing us to broadcast from the parking lot and for allowing us to be a part of last night. The league is in good hands.

2:02:51Pat McAfee:We're proud to be a part of it. Small part of it. and they need to figure it out with these refs. Yeah. They're in back there, too. Nice. One guy's got his hand up. Hell, yeah, he's just raising his hand like a teacher. Maybe we should ask him a question. We should get out of here. Team on me. Team on three. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. One, two, three. Team. Come on.