In short
Sports roundup on “Feel Good Friday” (May 1, 2026), centered on NBA playoff blowouts and Game 5/6 storylines, NHL playoff momentum and Connor McDavid speculation, plus college football conference shifts and NIL-era recruiting, and ends with an NFL draft/roster discussion with Kansas City Chiefs GM Brett Veach.
Guests (and backgrounds)
- Brett Veach: General manager of the Kansas City Chiefs; three-time Super Bowl champion; played football at the University of Delaware. He discusses Chiefs offseason decisions, defense/offense priorities, and Patrick Mahomes’ rehab.
- AJ Hawk: Mentioned as a co-host/regular (former Green Bay Packers linebacker; described as the Packers’ all-time leading tackler).
- Chris Paul: Announced as joining later in the show (NBA veteran; will discuss NBA playoff developments and his future appearance frequency on the program).
- “Wonderful ‘Champ’ Monds IV”: Announced as a guest (college commitment segment mentioned; specific background not detailed in the transcript).
Key claims
- NBA: Atlanta’s elimination-game collapse is framed as a major Knicks win; Pistons’ Cade Cunningham is said to have “turned it on” after early struggles; LeBron/Anthony Davis and the Lakers-Rockets series hinge on closing ability and missing players.
- NHL: Connor McDavid is portrayed as the league’s best player and a potential offseason destination story; the hosts argue he should move to the East (with Florida/Pittsburgh discussed).
- College football: Big Ten’s recent national-title run is attributed to deeper talent distribution, NIL effects, and recruiting parity versus the SEC’s former “talent magnet” dominance.
- Chiefs: The Chiefs prioritize press corners and third-down defense; they add Mansoor Delane after losing Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson.
Notable examples
- Knicks vs Hawks: described as a 71-16 run and a near-100-point loss for Atlanta in another referenced game.
- NHL: Quinn Hughes “trick shot” goal; McDavid’s loyalty/short-term deal and Edmonton first-round exit.
- College football: Kirby Smart discussion on conference depth, “worn down” SEC grind, and Big Ten depth.
- Chiefs: Mansoor Delane drafted to fit Steve Spagnuolo’s press-corner scheme; Kenneth Walker added to strengthen the running game.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONBA Playoffs Recap: Hawks vs. Knicks
0:46 to 2:35
A recap of the intense playoffs where the Knicks dominate the Hawks.
“And we're down back And even the guys who created a banger that will stand the test of time.”
Upcoming Games and Player Insights
2:36 to 4:32
Discussion on upcoming NBA playoff games and player performances.
“And we'll have Chris Paul joining us in the next hour to talk about everything and all things.”
LeBron James and the NBA Landscape
4:33 to 7:09
Analyzing LeBron's performance and the current NBA playoff dynamics.
“Quinn Hughes, bang, bang, Minnesota Wild, American hero.”
The Joker's Emotional Play
7:10 to 9:29
Exploring Nikola Jokic's performance and emotional intensity in playoffs.
“And that is the entire game of professional hoops.”
Debating NBA Greatness: LeBron vs. Jordan
9:30 to 11:28
A lively debate on who reigns supreme in NBA history: LeBron or Jordan.
“But on that note, this has been incredible out of LeBron.”
Connor McDavid's Future and NHL Insights
11:29 to 13:20
Discussing Connor McDavid's future amidst NHL playoff implications.
“Hopefully one day I'll live, we will live long enough to be able to do that to the next generation.”
Connor McDavid's Future and NHL Dynamics
14:00 to 19:30
Explore the discussions around Connor McDavid's potential move to a bigger market team and its implications for the NHL.
“Now everybody's talking about Connor McDavid up there in Edmonton.”
Big Ten vs SEC: Changing College Football Landscape
19:30 to 28:00
Delve into the evolving dynamics of college football, comparing the Big Ten and SEC and discussing recent trends in player recruitment and team performance.
“I think McDavid – Our mayor's name is Connor in Pittsburgh.”
The Evolution of College Football Coaching
28:00 to 29:59
Discussing the changing landscape of college football coaching and player management.
“Me and AJ were watching, and obviously AJ is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers.”
Signetti's Impact at Indiana
30:00 to 32:59
Analyzing Coach Signetti's transformative approach at Indiana University.
“and change the idea of what the standard is around there quickly.”
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Draft Strategies and Team Needs
33:20 to 37:51
Brett Veach shares insights on draft strategies and team rebuilding efforts.
“Hey, I see, I believe, is that a Larson hoodie you have on?”
Patrick Mahomes and Team Dynamics
37:52 to 42:00
Discussing Patrick Mahomes' recovery and his significance to the team's success.
“I think certainly on the defensive side of things, just the ability to get off the field on third downs.”
Patrick Mahomes' Recovery and Team Dynamics
42:00 to 43:37
Learn about Patrick Mahomes' rehab progress and team expectations.
“Now, obviously, because of that hard work, I think he's pretty far ahead of schedule.”
Travis Kelsey's Future and Team Motivation
43:37 to 46:38
Discuss the speculation around Travis Kelsey's potential retirement and his motivation for the upcoming season.
“Now, somebody that has not been forgotten about and I think might be married for next season, none of us know the date, but I think might be a married man.”
Football's Cultural Significance
46:38 to 48:18
Explore the importance of football in Pennsylvania and the cultural connections it fosters.
“when we're watching players, where are they from?”
Draft Strategies and Team Needs
48:18 to 52:37
Understand the strategies involved in drafting and addressing team needs in the NFL.
“Now, let's talk about the team that you have.”
Free Agency and Team Improvements
52:37 to 55:42
Insights into the likelihood of acquiring new players and improving the team roster.
“With this one, we didn't even get there.”
Horse Racing Insights
56:00 to 57:00
Explore insights on horse racing and betting favorites.
“I hate horses that get stuck on the rail.”
Kentucky Derby Anticipation
58:09 to 1:00:00
Discuss the excitement surrounding the Kentucky Derby and its participants.
“Back-to-back Jackson, back-to-back games in two different jerseys in the same damn day.”
Horse Racing Culture and Insight
1:00:00 to 1:01:50
Gain insights into the culture of horse racing and betting.
“So he has to be super smart, too, by the way, to test out of a grade.”
Expert Opinions on Horse Picks
1:01:50 to 1:03:23
Hear various picks and expert insights for the Derby race.
“Now,$3 million obviously payout for the winner.”
A.J. Hawk’s Derby Experiences
1:03:46 to 1:06:25
A.J. Hawk shares his experiences at the Kentucky Derby and insights into horse racing.
“I don't love them, but I've had them, yeah.”
Recruiting and Champ Mons IV's Announcement
1:06:25 to 1:10:00
Witness the excitement as Champ Mons IV announces his college commitment.
“No one has ever won coming out of the 17 poll.”
Wonderful Monds IV Announces College Commitment
1:10:00 to 1:11:49
Learn about Wonderful Monds IV's decision to attend Notre Dame.
“I mean, I've been getting recruited ever since coming in as a ninth grader.”
Discussing the Impact of Notre Dame
1:11:50 to 1:13:49
Insights into why Notre Dame is a great fit for Monds and his family's pride.
“The Fighting Irish, obviously incredible football school, but school in general and also alumni and future life.”
Recruitment Dynamics and College Football Culture
1:13:50 to 1:15:54
Explore the chaotic nature of recruiting and maintaining family values.
“Congratulations to the entire Collins family and good luck the rest of the way.”
Analyzing Current Trends in College Football
1:15:55 to 1:18:38
A deep dive into the state of college football and conference dynamics.
“It's not in any conference, which people certainly were pissed off about, which wonderful, great decision.”
Chris Paul's Arrival and NBA Playoff Insights
1:18:39 to 1:23:43
Chris Paul discusses his NBA career and current playoff scenarios.
“Who knows how he felt about me at the very beginning of that whole thing.”
Discussing NBA Playoff Storylines
1:24:00 to 1:25:36
Learn about key player performances and dynamics in the playoffs.
“Very rarely the headlines, not really the topic of discussion all season long.”
Chris Paul’s Top Three NBA Storylines
1:25:36 to 1:27:58
Discover Chris Paul's insights on crucial playoff storylines and players.
“Jaden McDaniels, though, one of them, especially because how he's kind of handled himself in this entire series.”
Analyzing the 76ers and Celtics
1:27:58 to 1:30:04
Gain insights on the 76ers' potential against the Celtics in the playoffs.
“And so everybody always talks about the playoffs and how it was for the vets and all this stuff like that.”
The Role of Coaches and Players in Playoff Success
1:30:04 to 1:33:00
Understand the significance of coaching and player dynamics in playoffs.
“So maybe we get a little bit of bench help.”
Deciphering NBA Game Strategies
1:33:00 to 1:35:36
Learn how to analyze and predict outcomes in playoff games.
“I mean, very rarely do you get that as an adult.”
Reflecting on Unprecedented Playoff Losses
1:35:36 to 1:38:00
Explore the implications of significant playoff losses and historical context.
“I know you don't understand it, so I'm going to give you a pass.”
NBA Playoff Loss Discussion
1:38:00 to 1:39:20
Explore the implications of a historical NBA playoff loss and its context.
“call a big play or something like that, that can sometimes affect the outcome of the game.”
Recalling Past Playoff Defeats
1:39:20 to 1:41:20
Revisit personal experiences of significant playoff defeats in the NBA.
“Last night here at my house, like I'm watching the game with my family, my wife, everybody, and a bunch of my closest friends and my homies, they know every time a game gets out of hand like that, I'd be like, get him.”
Understanding NBA Performance Slumps
1:41:20 to 1:43:10
Insights on how players cope with slumps and regain confidence during games.
“Okay, tell me a little bit about how long seasons are and how you have to show up.”
Reflecting on Team Dynamics and Losses
1:43:10 to 1:45:50
Discuss the psychological aspects of losing in the NBA and team morale.
“of hand already, but it's still like we all work off confidence.”
Wemby: The Rising Star of the NBA
1:45:50 to 1:47:40
Delve into Victor Wembanyama's potential and impact on the league.
“Yeah, Chris, obviously, Vassal and Castle and Darren Fox and Wembe, you know all the boys from being in there.”
Victor Wembanyama's Playing Style and Impact
1:47:40 to 1:49:30
Analyze how Wembanyama's unique style changes the dynamics of basketball.
“He's always trying to learn something new.”
Family Games and Competitiveness
1:49:30 to 1:51:40
Explore the personal side of competitive spirit through family card games.
“But being in that locker room was, was one of the funnest things in my career.”
Coach Caldwell and Playoff Strategies
1:52:01 to 1:53:06
Discussion about Coach Caldwell and playoff strategies for the teams involved.
“Yeah, I ain't played with Coach Caldwell in a while.”
Handling Pressure in Basketball
1:53:06 to 1:54:44
Exploration of handling pressure during games and the importance of defense.
“So I think it's going to be interesting to see their adjustments to see what they do and how they combat Houston.”
The Art of Shooting and Snapping
1:54:44 to 1:57:22
Insights into shooting techniques and the role of the long snapper in football.
“And I know you're seven-time first-team all-defense.”
Basketball Techniques and Skills
1:57:22 to 1:58:33
Discussion on the importance of proper technique in basketball shooting.
“So it's eight yards normally is the spot from where the ball is, and then it's eight yards and six inches for where their ball spin is to where the laces are forward.”
Shooting and Basketball Equipment
1:58:33 to 2:01:05
Comparison of different basketball sizes and their significance in training.
“Wherever the game is played or watched, PayPal moves with fans.”
Pittsburgh Sports Culture and Rivalries
2:01:05 to 2:03:24
Exploration of the sports culture in Pittsburgh and Ohio rivalries.
“That was my high school basketball career.”
Connor McDavid Trade Speculations
2:03:24 to 2:06:00
Discussion of potential trades involving Connor McDavid and team dynamics.
“Did you hear about Connor McDavid joining the Pittsburgh Penguins?”
NHL Trade Speculations
2:06:00 to 2:06:40
Discussion on potential trades involving NHL players and teams.
“What if they just dropped him right in the middle of New York?”
Five Things That Aren't Asked - Introduction
2:06:40 to 2:08:40
Introduction to a new segment focusing on five lesser-known but interesting sports stories.
“I think we got to do some weekly recap things that are good and things that are not so great.”
Mathis Albert's Bundesliga Debut
2:08:40 to 2:10:00
Exploring the debut of 16-year-old Mathis Albert in the Bundesliga.
“Would this be like a 16-year-old playing in the NFL?”
Blocky Qualifies for PGA Championship
2:10:00 to 2:12:50
Celebrating Blocky's qualification for the PGA Championship and his impressive performance.
“Yeah, Blocko has qualified for the PGA Championship as he finished in the top 10 of this particular tournament.”
Quinn Hughes' Goal and Precision Play
2:12:50 to 2:15:30
Discussion of Quinn Hughes' clever goal during a match and its implications.
“Let's go to the number three thing that isn't us that happened this week.”
Pittsburgh NFL Draft Experience
2:15:30 to 2:18:20
Recap of the NFL Draft festivities in Pittsburgh and fan experiences.
“And if you are, leave your cars at home.”
Coach Nick Saban's Golf Skills
2:18:20 to 2:20:00
Analyzing Coach Nick Saban's golf swing and performance during a recent event.
“You know, there was a post that said, who has the best swing out here?”
Angel Alvarado's World Record Feat
2:20:00 to 2:21:09
Learn about Angel Alvarado's incredible juggling and Rubik's Cube-solving world record.
“Nato hasn't seen the sun, has never golfed.”
AJ's Juggling Reflections
2:21:10 to 2:22:44
AJ Hawk shares his thoughts on juggling and the impressive feat of solving Rubik's Cubes.
“And even when they slow it down, I don't think I fully understand his finger dexterity power to be able to quarter spin while catching it and finishing the spin.”
Soccer Highlights: Turkish League and La Liga
2:22:45 to 2:25:04
Explore interesting moments from Turkish soccer and La Liga involving unusual goals and players.
“So if you could do that, somebody needs to get to him.”
Arena Football League Fails
2:25:05 to 2:27:18
Discussing the comical moments in Arena Football League, including a kicker's blunder.
“Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get out of the railroad.”
UFL Bobblehead Disappointment
2:27:19 to 2:29:11
A humorous take on the mishap of missing bobbleheads at a UFL game.
“Obviously, he's just embarrassed in front of the lady.”
EMT's Foul Ball Encounter
2:29:12 to 2:31:54
Sharing laughs over an incident where an EMT gets hit by a foul ball at a baseball game.
“Because I know, if I know, you know, AJ talks glowingly about Jim Trestle all the time, you know how many Aviators fans are going to show up and they're going to realize, no fucking Jim Trestle bobbleheads tonight?”
NASCAR and Rollerblade Mishaps
2:31:55 to 2:34:00
A lighthearted discussion about NASCAR crashes and a cringe-worthy rollerblade incident.
“They're getting booed in Philadelphia, AJ.”
The Rollerblading Incident
2:34:00 to 2:37:00
A humorous discussion unfolds about a rollerblader's mishap in a restaurant.
“Rollerblading has certainly been making a big comeback.”
Weekend Preview and Celebrations
2:37:00 to 2:37:17
The hosts discuss upcoming events and share birthday wishes.
“Welcome to Oh No Soup here at the Thunderdome.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, May 1st, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports are the absolute greatest and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to talk about them every single day. The NBA playoffs are happening and ass beating occurred last night in Atlanta. Holy hell. An absolute drumming of the Atlanta Hawks right there in the front of the Atlanta Hawks. I believe T.I.'s face. Wow. I believe a couple chains, two chains was maybe down in there in the building. I know they were trying to swag surf towards the end and I believe they were doing Yeah we got a swag And they're kicking our ass And we're down back And even the guys who created a banger that will stand the test of time.
0:59Pat McAfee:That song will hit forever. In Atlanta, on that particular night, as they were getting knocked out of the NBA playoffs, finding out that their C finance guy was robbing them. On that day. And then they would have at one point, they'd be on the wrong end of a 39-4 run. This is an elimination game in the NBA playoffs. A 71-16 run occurred. Wow. Knicks blowing out the Hawks. Tough day to be a Hawks fan. Tough day to be a Hawks owner, which we happen to know one of them. Steve, we're pulling for you down there. That's certainly a tough way to end the season. I don't know how the offseason is going to have any way looking up, but for the New York Knicks fans, how about it?
1:46Pat McAfee:Your team steps on an absolute throat in another building. Jalen Brunson does his thing, and maybe this is the year for the Knicks. Congratulations to them, and I'm sorry, Hawks. Yikes. Good year. I went to a Hawks game this year. Yeah? I was in the building a couple times. We were down in Atlanta a lot. Got a chance to really watch them do their thing. They're always bringing it. Remember, they had a promotion that got canceled. They were willing. Hey, some lemon pepper chicken wings can certainly be promoted here. Yeah. We can certainly let an adult ballet have an evening here, especially because it's Atlanta Hawks.
2:20Pat McAfee:That was the year they had traded away, Trey. Yeah. Got rid of him. Yeah. Still in the playoffs. And they lose by damn near 100 points. 71-16 run. We're watching in the playoffs. Bad night for Atlanta. Great night for the Knicks. Obviously, NBA playoffs still kicking off. Tonight, the Lakers are playing. There's a three-game schedule. And we'll have Chris Paul joining us in the next hour to talk about everything and all things. And oh, yeah, he'll be making an announcement about how often he'll be appearing on this particular program going forward. Pistons, Magic. Pistons obviously getting hot after going down 3-0.
2:55Pat McAfee:That man on that graphic right there, Cade Cunningham, he had 100 turnovers in the first three games in which they lost. He's the Pistons' best player, the Stones, as the people from Detroit call him. He has a bad game. They have a bad game. He had three really bad games back-to-back-to-back, and then he turned it on, and now the Pistons are right back in it. The number one overall seed could potentially break the hearts of everybody in Orlando who thought they were going to knock the number one overall seed out of the playoffs in the first round. Stones could get hot and continue to capitalize.
3:22Pat McAfee:That's at 7 p.m. Cavaliers, Raptors. Obviously, the addition of James Harden to Cleveland has been spectacular to watch. Him and Donovan Mitchell doing their thing. And then the Raptors. We've seen them win a championship within the last 10 years. We know all of Canada's behind them. Why not the Raptors? Well, everybody in America hopes not. That's what we hope doesn't happen. But we love their organization. And then LeBron James was once up 3-0 over the Houston Rockets without Kevin Durant. Now it's 3-2. And this Rockets team was supposed to be young and feisty. That's why Kevin Durant was added to them before the season even started.
3:54Pat McAfee:And LeBron James didn't have Austin Reeves or Luka to start this series. Got Austin Reeves back. Will he be able to close the door and be the GOAT? Let's hope. That's a good question. But if the Rockets win this one, it gets 3-3 and that goes to a Game 7. Uh-oh. And then the Rockets win Game 7. Oh, no. Don't even go there. In L.A. In L.A. In the crypt. Oh. That would be loud. It would be one way all the way to the other way. And I'll tell you what. I've been seeing a lot of people from Chicago on a lot of debate shows. As of late, as the Houston Rockets have turned this thing around, I assume they're only going to get louder shout-out to the NBA, having the record-breaking playoffs that they're having.
4:29Pat McAfee:And then the NHL, hell yeah, one of the stars, Team USA, had a trick shot goal last night. Quinn Hughes, bang, bang, Minnesota Wild, American hero. Obviously, Jackie Hughes, his brother, the Hugheses, and the boys obviously did their thing to win us a gold medal. Last night, he has a trick shot off somebody's skate, seemingly on purpose. hey goal perfection stars out wowed on what a thing the NHL continues to deliver night after night and obviously this weekend the storylines are going to be around some horses running down there in Louisville the Kentucky Derby is obviously this weekend the NFL will never sleep there's always something happening and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of this beautiful sports world the toxic table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmitt con man big night pal Yeah, huge night.
5:17I mean, we got a couple of kind of do or dies. You just mentioned it, the Lakers, Rockets, that'll be amazing. The Magic Pistons, those basketball games, Cass Raptors, but then of course NHL. I mean, sure, I'd lean towards the NHL tonight because Boston is taking on the Sabres back at home in the garden and they were one of those teams that were down, you know, 3-1. that all things seem to be terrible. Canadians lighting every single game has been a one-goal game, and the Golden Knights at the Mammouth. Golden Knights also trying to close it out on the road. But this is where the first round gets a little testy.
5:51I mean, we just saw it last night. You mentioned the blowout with the Knicks, but Boston Celtics got their asses handed to them too, and they were up 3-1 looking like they were going to just walk into the second round, and now all of a sudden that thing's going 7 tomorrow.
6:03Pat McAfee:Oh, and the Timberwolves didn't even have enough guys to really have a starting 5 with so many injuries and they knocked Joker and the Nuggets out. And Joker's been doing a lot of chesty-chesty with people. He seemed to be a little testy-testy afterwards. He said, if we're in Serbia, we'll all be fired. What are we even talking about here? Remember, they did fire Malone a week before the playoffs last year. Then they had a little bit of a run. Now they do their hire. They have Joker on their team and we've seen them have success, so we assume they're going to have success. They don't really get talked about all year, which I assume they don't care about.
6:31Pat McAfee:Or maybe they do. I'm not 100 % sure. Then they get to the playoffs. It's like, all right, now it's Joker season. Now we get to see this massive Serbian man who plays like no other man has ever played. He's a giant who has the touch of a small point guard as if he was, I don't know, Stockton or Chris Paul or something like that. But, oh, yeah, he can also body people. His brother's bigger than he is somehow. He's intimidating. And he can make shots from all over the court, literally all over the other foul line. He can drop them in there, other three-point line, his own three, anywhere. He's a special person.
7:02Pat McAfee:And then now we're seeing a little bit, it feels like a drama years. Yeah. It feels like we're in the drama years of a guy that I thought had no drama really around him. It's strictly around if your team's good or not. And that is the entire game of professional hoops. And I like seeing Joker get a little emotional, though. Yes. You know, I know the NBA doesn't love fights. Sure. There's been some historically terrible things that have happened for the NBA that involve fisticuffs. Some malices, if you will. There's certainly that one. There's some others, too. I mean, because fans are very close.
7:33Pat McAfee:So that thing can kind of spill to wherever. They do not want fights. Joker shows no emotion ever. So whenever I see him starting to get a little testy, I think to myself, okay, I like that. First of all, I didn't know that he had that. But also, how long is Joker's deal? He's only there for another year. Really? I believe Joker's only there. It's like with the honest, with everything that's being said about the honest. And then have we ever talked about Joker ever? No. Never. Moving or anything like that? It's like, is Joker upset about what's going on in Denver? Obviously, there was a coach fired very late.
8:03Pat McAfee:Was he a part of that decision? Now they're obviously exiting this early into a playoff run with Joker, who's one of the best players in the world whenever he's playing basketball, which he certainly was. And then he says afterwards, if we were in Serbia, everybody would be fired. So it's an interesting time. Maybe Joker's on the move. But on that note, tonight, all eyes. For me, these two eyes. Obviously, everything else happening in the NBA and the NHL is special. I cannot wait to watch this slate of NHL games because they have delivered every single game these guys, the NHL has. If LeBron James loses this game and it gets to a game seven, it's going to be so loud.
8:36Pat McAfee:Today's Friday, obviously, so we've got the weekend. So loud. So much can happen from now until – he can be the greatest of all time. Yep. Or potentially, why do we even have him in the Rushmore conversation if he's going to let that happen? He's 41 years old right now as this is all taking place. But this is a gigantic part of daily sports coverage. And people are going to say daily sports is kind of the ruination of sports. Potentially. I mean, there is a possibility, but it certainly showcased how much attention and intensity is following sports, I think, daily sports coverage. 24-7, have to get clicks, have to do this.
9:13Pat McAfee:Well, whenever you see something that is probably never going to happen again or never be able to happen again, like a 41-year-old man who's been famous since he's 15 and been on top of the world, kind of do his thing, feel obligated to talk about it, and then people feel obligated to dissect it, break it down, combat it, debate it, And then that's how we get to what everybody hates, basically. Yeah, sure. But on that note, this has been incredible out of LeBron. I hope Austin Reeves does his thing. And if they win, we will certainly be calling him to go to him. I will certainly be calling him to go to him Monday.
9:41Pat McAfee:Fox, will you be doing the same thing back there? Yes, sir. Yeah, and the people from Chicago and Jordan fans are going to hate us. They're going to say we don't know ball, which I can openly admit. You know one kind of ball. I know modern era basketball. Grew up in Pittsburgh, not an NBA town. It is an NHL town. I would watch the Lake show late night because I didn't sleep much. So I know Kobe, Shaq, and the boys whenever they're late night having a good time. But I don't know, like, the history of the NBA. So I do apologize. But I have watched some of the film from the old basketball. And I've watched modern basketball.
10:12Pat McAfee:And I don't know if they're anywhere near similar sports. And I think Michael Jordan would be very good in the modern era because of how big of a dog he is. I think he would have been good at anything that he wanted to do. As he's showcasing now, I think, in life. He's winning NASCAR races every single weekend. And also his shoes. I got them all right now. Sure. Got them all. He's good at everything. But I think LeBron would have been able to play early back in the day. No, no. Yeah, so that whole argument. He's 41 years old still playing. I think his body would have been able to withstand lamb beers chopped to the chest.
10:40Pat McAfee:I think he would have been able to do it. He's also 6 '8 and would have been probably 270 back then if he was doing the entire thing. So I just think it's a tough debate to do who's the greatest. But I'm just going to stand on it now because I've watched this guy do this. I think he's the greatest. and I'm just going to go with it now. Couldn't agree more, and if he loses this weekend, I'll just blame his teammates. Which is classic LeBron James fans, which is what we have done basically our entire time. So I understand why we're hateable, too, for the group that don't know the history of the NBA but are telling everybody who's the greatest of all time in the NBA that they watch.
11:12Pat McAfee:Like, we watch Mad Dog get up there and talk, you know? They don't know more about me. I've been doing this for years. They know more basketball than I do. Well, they played in the game. I don't care. I've been watching this thing night in, night out for fucking 50 years. These guys aren't even around for that long. So I don't want to hear it. It's a tough debate. Hopefully one day I'll live, we will live long enough to be able to do that to the next generation. But we might as well just say it. This guy's doing something. And if you lose this weekend, act like none of this happened. I didn't say any of this.
11:40Pat McAfee:Bingo. And I know Michael would have never given up a 3-0 lead. Okay. Sure. You see LeBron pass it. Do you see him pass it to the end of the fourth quarter? Austin Reeves airballs it. They take it the other way. They win the game. You think Jordan would have let Austin Reeves airball that shot? Never. LeBron's not a killer.
12:02Pat McAfee:That's what they'll say. Oh, yeah. Biggest choker of all time. This guy defers the big moment every single time. Gakote, they'll say. Gachote. I don't want that. No. Who does? We won't talk about it. Okay. Because in the crypt tonight, the Lakers are doing their thing. And around Marcus Smart. What is this? What is this? stat that we got here. Marcus Martin, Luke Kennard versus the Rockets. Games 1-3, 125 points on 54 % field goals. They're doing it. Games 4-5, 28 points. Okay, so that's pretty telling. Wow, let's get some minutes. It's a good stat, bossy. Yeah, it's a good stat. Way to find that.
12:38So LeBron needs Marcus Martin, Luke Kennard. Yeah, exactly. Austin Reed's playing in Game 5. That's a misleading stat. He did not play as much. Exactly. That's all he needs. That's what we're in right now. We'll take J.R. Smith. I don't know what his ass is fucking doing.
12:53Pat McAfee:We need him to come make some shots for the Lakers. Disgusting. Mike Miller, what's he at? Put Mike Miller's ass on the court tonight. Couldn't win the series. Luke Kinnar didn't make a shot. That's what we're saying. That's why if LeBron wins this, it's outrageous because of who we're talking about. If he loses it, he's 41 and his teammates suck. They're missing KD. We know how you guys do it. Everybody's missing people, okay? The Houston Rockets are missing their best player. So let's not talk about that. We don't talk about that. They might be able to win a series without Kevin Durant. That seems unbelievable.
13:27If anything, we need to address the real thing that's going on in sports right now, and that's the Oilers are dead, and where's Conor McDavid going next year?
13:34Pat McAfee:Okay, in the NHL, obviously their series is ending, and maybe storylines ending, maybe legacies ending, maybe careers being over. We have no idea what's going to happen as these series is ending. So many great players playing right now across so many different teams in the NBA and the NHL. And then when the Game 7 series ends and they kind of get passed on and we look on to the second round, there's still a lot of lives getting figured out back here in this first series. And there's a lot of commitment, a lot of life, a lot of injuries, a lot of everything taking place. Now everybody's talking about Connor McDavid up there in Edmonton.
14:06Pat McAfee:It's not just now. It's like the last three years. They do very well. He's clearly the best player on the ice whenever he's on the ice. They actually shaped the All-Star Games challenges around what this dude was doing just for training. Hey, Connor, can you give us some shit you do for training so we can make them games, so we can have an All-Star thing that will showcase the talent of everybody? You got it. No problem. Let me sauce through about 100 different cones. Bang, bang, bang, bang. Look at my speed. Everything about him screams like the guy, Connor McDavid. No cups. No cups. He's up in Edmonton.
14:35Pat McAfee:Okay? Great barn. We've seen it in the playoffs through the run. Love park. Where's Connor McDavid? They love hockey up there. It is an incredible environment. Tough to get into daily conversation, I think, in the sports world. Certainly. Especially in Edmonton. Now, in Canada, I assume it's all over the place, which we respect and appreciate. We're talking about, for us, though, Edmonton, very far and very way out there. It's lazy on us, for sure, but it's just a reality of the business. And it's been happening for the last 30 years. if Conor was to get to a team that was, you know, big market, United States of America, much like what Wano did whenever he went to L.A.
15:14Pat McAfee:to help grow the game. This would be an insane thing for Conor McDavid. It would be an insane thing for hockey. And when he's a Pittsburgh Penguins next year and him and Sidney Crosby are wearing the same jerseys, let's go ahead and remember what the numbers are for hockey right now and then what they're about to become. Flyers, pens, two million. It's like the most watched game five, yada, yada, yada. You put McDavid, he wouldn't have a C on his chest. Thank you. Thank you. We need to go ahead and move that. That's disrespectful. Thank you. I don't know who did that. You know who did it. Oh, the bone.
15:45Pat McAfee:Guess what? You're fired. Okay? McDavid's not wearing a C. If Crosby's, no, I would like to say, if Crosby wants him to, a McDavid, if this is the determining factor for him to come, he can wear half a C. You know, we could do the, he can wear the bottom half, C wears the top half, whatever the hell they want to do. Anything to get this guy in one of these jerseys is certainly something that I would be willing to give up. Do I have any say or any connections in the Penguins building? No. So I would just like to put it publicly. They're talking about the best player on earth moving. I'm saying it to the Penguins.
16:22Pat McAfee:Yeah. Every team in the NHL would be like, oh, yeah, for Connor McDavid. And it feels a little bit more real now because of how he reacted about their team all year. Because he's been very loyal. He took less money in his deal. Signed a short-term deal for less money than he could have to stay there and help build a winner, and they lose in the first round. It gets worse. So you tell me. He needs to leave, period. He needs to leave, and he needs to come to the Eastern Conference. He's got to stay in the West. They're not going to let him go to the West. With the momentum that the NHL has right now, where people are, like, you know, best ratings they've had in a long time, if the best player in the league in the offseason says, you know what, yeah, I'm out of here.
17:02I want to go to Pittsburgh. I want to go to New York. I want to go to Boston. I want to go to Vegas. He's not going to Vegas. He's not going to the West. I don't know. I'm pretty sure Bill Foley would sell the farm. Hey, anybody you want with the exception of Stoner. No Stoner, obviously. No Jackie Aces. Anyone else is up for sale. Go ahead. Come on. You're going to love Vegas, Connor.
17:21Pat McAfee:That's a crazy thing. And the Edmonton people, obviously, I've seen this before with Wainel, who literally left to go help hockey. That was kind of like the decision. Like, hey, the great one, 99. Might be watching right now. Hey, Wayno. Love you, Wayno. Way to go with those four cups, Wayno. That's the only difference. He won four, you know? Well, Wayno just wins, I believe. That is kind of what he does, which is what everybody kind of says to McDavid. And I think McDavid's kind of sick of hearing that. Like, hey, yeah, but how many are you going to win? Sid's got a bunch of cups, right? Sid's got a bunch of gold medals.
17:50Pat McAfee:Sid has a bunch. Mario, same thing. Got cups. Canadian legend. Wayno, got him. Moose, got him. McKinnon has one. Yeah, like every Canadian legend hockey player, which this guy definitely is and is a part of, has one thing that he just seemingly hasn't been able to get. Now, will they talk about him in the hockey world the same way that people are talking about Bron Bron whenever he went down to Miami? Nick, is that something that the hockey people will say about Conor McDavid? Or are the hockey people behind him coming to the Pittsburgh Penguins and riding with Sidney Crosby to three, four, maybe five Stanley Cups over the next six years?
18:25I think you might get some of that initially, but I think they have enough sense to realize that he kind of gave it everything he has and has been giving everything he has for 11 seasons in Edmonton, and it has not worked out. They haven't been able to put the right pieces around him, and he's a guy that is an all-world talent and a generational type of player, and he's had a couple shots at the Cup in the finals against very good Florida Panthers teams, and if he were to go somewhere else, I don't think anyone would hold that against him forever. I think maybe in the immediate instance of it, people get upset, but then after the fact, I think it's all water under the bridge.
18:58He can't be taking his talents down to South Florida. I think there's a chance he does end up with the Florida Panthers. Cannot take his talents down to South Florida. I know. It just feels like they spend money. They have players to trade. They actually do have picks again. Now, one team has multiple picks, including one in the top ten, and that would be the Boston Bruins, and they've got good players to sell to. But I do think the Panthers have to. Thanks for adjusting yourself there. I do think the Banthers have become – like Florida has become such a hub. I mean, we could talk about the Lightning too, shit.
19:26But it does feel like he'll go to one of those top teams.
19:29Pat McAfee:All right, let's pivot away from the NBA and NHL playoffs. And maybe McDavid coming home. Okay. Let's pivot away from that. Tell Boston. Let's talk a little bit about – no. Maybe McDavid. What's his name, Connor? Oh, yeah. They got a lot of Conners up in Boston. I think McDavid – Our mayor's name is Connor in Pittsburgh. Our Pittsburgh's mayor's name is Connor. Connor Mick David? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking Pittsburgh. Yeah, I'm thinking South Foster. I'm thinking they knocked down a couple buildings and built them a home there. Yeah, let's – We got a couple parts of the city we can throw.
20:06Pat McAfee:You're talking about some homes? We can give away parts of the city, brother. There's probably 10 Connor McDavid's walking around Charlestown right now. How about this? I think I have authority to say this. They'll call it Connor Wood. Wow. One month. And he'll have free access to Kenny Wood. Oh, so that place before he wins a cup? Wow. That's embarrassing. This is a recruiting tool. This is a recruiting. This is a recruiting. Trying to get Connor Wood. Connor Wood. Connor's Wood. Until you win something. Connor's bringing a Wood to all of Pittsburgh. Hell yeah. As soon as that is announced. Let's move to a little football.
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20:40Pat McAfee:Kirby Smart seemed very comfortable and relaxed in a conversation with a couple Southern lads, I do believe. Name of their show will be on the screen here. The next round, sorry lads. Incredible conversation here. Kirby Smart breaking down college football as a whole. I think it's a nice piece of information for us to have in our world as we talk about ball going forward. The college football landscape has really, really changed. The Big Ten has won three straight championships. I mean, that's just crazy. The SEC dominated it for so long. What's your theory on that? Let me hear it. Why? You really want my theory?
21:15I want your theory. Yeah, I want to hear it because we just had more draft picks than them. That's right. Not in the first. Not in the first. That's right. That was a flip in the first because they had more in the first than SEC did. But why do you do that? Okay, so here's my theory. As a football coach, you're not going to like my theory. I'll go ahead and tell you, okay? I like all theories. I think back in the day when – He is so setting you up to cut you down. Yes, I know. He's going to bring up the pay and the players. Everybody was paying players. I'm not saying only Alabama was or only Georgia was.
21:41Everybody was paying players. But I think there was almost a handshake agreement like Alabama and Auburn, to a certain extent, were going to let it go on because they knew each other were doing it. But, by God, they weren't going to let Ohio State come down here and get a player. Or Georgia and Florida, they knew battling over South Georgia. Look, we're both cheating a little bit, but we're not going to let Michigan come get a player. Well, now it's a free game. Is there any validity to that? Is that a bad theory? I don't know. I can't figure out what it is. I just think they have a more competitive conference, like the top of their conference, there's more good teams.
22:11It used to be, eh, Ohio State was good. Michigan was really good. Harbaugh had a great team. Indiana's good. Like now they've got Oregon. They've got a draw. They have an ability to attract good players. Now, NIL has a factor too, for sure. But so does Miami. So does Florida. People have money. More people have money. That's right. So I think the talent is spread out thin, where before in the SEC it was a magnet to talent. The disparity was so great that it was like you couldn't mess it up. You'd win regardless. And now it's like, okay, it's more even. It's just been three in a row. But it's crazy.
22:43Like when you were over here as a defensive coordinator, you would not have taken the Indiana job under any circumstances. No, probably not. There is no way they would have brought you away from Tuscaloosa. You were waiting for a better job than that. I agree with that. And now it's a national championship program. So it just shows you how quickly things can change. That's true. It can change quick. But that doesn't explain why the big – No, I agree with you. That doesn't explain why the big team has been able to do that. And that's just – you know, I have so much respect for them. I'm like, are they better coaches?
23:07than us. That's what all our coaches say. I think Joel Klatt says that.
23:11Pat McAfee:That's a lot of stuff right there. A lot of things were said there by the host of the next round, which I assume I don't know what event is that the golfing event? The SEC golf outing or whatever it was. The way he was describing what it used to be like, what it is like now, and then the conference, the depth, are the coaches better? It's got everybody kind of questioning what the hell is going on in college ball. And Kirby, I appreciate him saying in there that we have more players drafted in the NFL. So does that mean we have a more talented league and they're a better team? Like why them really being flustered is certainly something I enjoy happening.
23:46Pat McAfee:And Sankey just had a dry erase board saying, I'm taking all the answers. Whatever the answers are, let's try to figure this out. Yeah, I mean, taking off like the Big Ten Homer hat, seeing as I went to a Big Ten school and everything, I mean, we've talked about it a bunch with money being kind of the, listen, these northern schools, the alumni bases, like that Big Ten hadn't had success in terms of like a national championship, you know, run the way the SEC had. So a lot of these schools said, hey, let's fully commit to this when, you know, they kind of opened up everything. It was like, hey, you can go, you can essentially go buy a national championship.
24:19But it's still, I think in terms of like how deep the Big Ten is, like we've talked about the three teams that have won national championships. But like going into this year, people are talking about USC's recruiting class and how they might be unbelievable. Oregon is right there every single year. I mean, like, even Iowa, like, are they going to win a national championship? Probably not. But a couple things go different ways last year. They're in the playoff. And we really did with the SEC last year. Like, we're talking about the same three schools. You know, it's Georgia, it's LSU, it's Alabama.
24:50And then every once in a while. Ole Miss got crazy. That's what I mean. Like, every once in a while, Ole Miss will pop in there. Or, you know, Florida will pop in there. But it seems like there is just such a drastic drop-off. And I don't know. I mean, I haven't looked at the recruiting numbers, but it does seem like the Big Ten is going down into the South and getting a lot more of those guys to go commit to Big Ten schools, where in the past it was a no-brainer. They would go to Alabama. They would go to Georgia, and I just don't know if that's the case anymore. Well, and it's not just the Big Ten.
25:18Miami beat Texas A &M, SEC in Texas A &M, and then they were the ones that beat Ole Miss. Like the ACC also not as a whole, but Miami now kind of taken back over South Florida. We're just like that guy mentioned, like, hey, the SEC schools were competing for certain areas in the country. Like Miami is now all the way back and they're getting a bunch of good guys, too. So like Big Ten absolutely being the most dominant. But Miami's also purging some of those players and that's hurting the SEC, too. Yeah, the NIL has hurt the SEC, not so much in the fact that they're not getting guys anymore because they are getting guys.
25:52But back in the day, Bama would have three deep five stars. You're never going to have that again because those five stars or whatever, they're not going to sit around. So they're going to other schools because of the NIL. When they get to these schools and they realize they're not going to play, then they go to these other schools. And then the talent has been spread out so much that just over the last few years, because the bigger schools of the Big Ten have gotten that talent and do have more money now, that's been better for the Big Ten. But I agree that the Big Ten, just like you saw in the draft, is better at the top.
26:22They have the better at the top right now. But as a whole, like the bottom of the SEC would blow out the bottom of the big time. Certainly.
26:28Pat McAfee:Which is what Kirby actually said there late then. If we were to listen to the rest of his answer. Really good conversation between – he was very wide open with these guys. Yeah. These guys, incredible environment you boys have set here at the next round that have made Kirby feel very comfortable and also asking for your opinions. He said – well, some coaches, not me obviously, but some coaches in the SEC who I have respect for, Kirby said, say that like, you know, when you've got to play at these places that are really not good in the SEC but are actually really good, mentally it can burn you, stress you.
27:05Pat McAfee:I mean, you can get worn down. He said, well, I didn't say this. This is not how I view things. My guys get harder, whatever, you know, I think is what he meant. But one of the coaches is like, hey, by the end of the SEC season, I mean, it's just going to be naturally more worn down. Now, the fact that he's saying that, I appreciate because he probably is thinking it as well. And he said, that's this guy's idea. I like it. But I also like the fact that the Big Ten people are like, this is what they're worried about. They're getting worn down, and then they got a month off until the playoffs, and they're not able to get back and get better.
27:33Pat McAfee:So it's a fascinating little time for college ball, and we're just lucky that we get to be a part of it. Down or on the sideline. Whenever we used to see back in the day Alabama's offensive line, they played who here in 2020 for the national champion? It was Georgia, right? It was Georgia, yeah. These guys came running out of the tunnel, to your point about being deep. Yeah. And there was 75 straight just the biggest, fastest dudes of all time running out both sides of the tunnel. Me and AJ were watching, and obviously AJ is the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He ran like a 4 '4", 230 or 40 pounds or something like that when he was coming out.
28:10Pat McAfee:Freak athlete, AJ Hawk. We're looking at these dudes come out, and it just seemed like there were 100 guys just came out that were the biggest, strongest, fastest dudes you've ever seen in your life. those guys are now traveling to other places Kirby talked about I've played more freshmen I gotta play more young guys now than I've ever had to play before because if you don't play them obviously they're gonna be gone and also we have to play them because other guys are already gone that we're trying to get ready for two years three years back in the day we're taking advantage of it Signetti's out there saying hey listen are we all playing football or not he's turned Indiana into a powerhouse quickly because he's been able to evaluate his evaluation is better than everybody else if he thinks you're a good player he's probably right and uh it may be not for everybody but for his system if he likes you it seemingly works out and you can google him how about him walking into that situation you can google me i win then he goes on to win national championship yeah how about he walks in that basketball stadium what's he say the basketball arena the first day that he's there and there's not even a dedicated football locker or football weight room at that point at indiana whenever he grabs the mic at a basketball game what he said to the people hey produce sucks and they said oh yeah so does the High State in Michigan.
29:19Pat McAfee:Go Hoosiers. That's it. And we all thought to ourselves. This guy's insane. We knew him. Sicko. We had known him from James Madison. He went to West Virginia. His dad coached. He's from Pittsburgh. He's an Italian. Like, we knew Signetti very well. His intro to Indiana with everything he was saying, I'm like, man. I've met a few of these humans before in my life through Pittsburgh, West Virginia, football, Italian. I've met a few of these. I've never seen somebody be this open with it all. And he said he was doing it to inspire and motivate and tell the people that he was with, hey, these are our expectations.
29:55Pat McAfee:He said it was such a dreary place when it came to football that he needed to change the expectations and change the idea of what the standard is around there quickly. So he ran his mouth. He actually said that. He's turned that down since. He said, I haven't done it much now. I think we kind of know where we are now. We kind of back off that entire thing. But he said he was doing it to tell the people that he was around, Like, hey, this is ass right now. This is not going to be ass. And then he goes and wins the fucking national championship and has a perfect season. And the year before that goes to the playoff when they've sucked forever.
30:24And I wonder if that part of that, if you're in the SEC, that could be maybe a little bit more unsettling. Obviously, there aren't very many guys like Sig. They aren't just growing on trees. But if you find an unbelievable coach who is legit and you go to one of these schools that has kind of just been laying dormant and you could prove that you could win a little bit and you can get that alumni base that has a lot of money. Northwestern is always going to be academics first, but if you get an unbelievable coach at Northwestern and then you get all these rich people that graduated from there, why couldn't Northwestern out of nowhere be like, hey, Northwestern's 10-1 this year.
30:59Pat McAfee:That's why UCLA surprises me so much that they're not so good at every sport because they have so many wealthy folks seemingly associated with UCLA. I think UCLA, I think there's a lot of wealthy people over there, and that's all you really need right now. Until they put guardrails on it. And now in the Big 12, you can get an extra 30 mil out. Yeah. What are we giving up, though? Does anybody know? That's a great question. I sent a question. I tried to do some journalism. I got no answer. Yeah. But Sig is not all – the thing with Sig now, he also got another top five recruiting class – or not recruiting class, transfer class this year, portal class.
31:28But he's not shopping at Marshalls anymore. Okay. He's just got that number one overall player in this upcoming class who visited number one wide receiver overall coming in to visit. So he's going to find his guys, but they might be better now. but the favorites, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Indiana, those are all non-SEC. Then you get to Texas, Oregon, Georgia, a couple SEC teams in there. But right now, as of right now, as the odds are concerned, we'll be not an SEC team. Well, and some of those schools, like to Ty's point about it, like Northwestern, sure, they're always going to be shitty, but how long until someone from Wisconsin or Nebraska or like kind of the older programs are like, okay, I'm sick of doing this bullshit and stinking, and then all of a sudden they start to kind of rise from the ashes.
32:08Pat McAfee:And who right now is spending a lot of money and it's not going to work out. And the person that's giving all the money is going to stop giving money. Yes, exactly. Those schools are out there. We just don't know. Sig's not growing on trees, though. Yeah, exactly. And he gets a new contract, what, every year. Right? As new contracts are signed everywhere else, his contract just automatically bumps up. Right. So he's literally getting a new contract every single year. Congrats, Sig. He took the long way home. Yeah, exactly. He found it. There's going to be so many statues of that man. They're going to have so many of his quotes all over the place about standards and how you lead and the way he thinks.
32:43Pat McAfee:They're just going to be all over the place, especially down in IU. They are very grateful for him, but they are a very, like, grateful group. You know? Yeah. If you do stuff for the Hoosiers, they are thankful for it. They'd be grateful with nine wins. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Let alone the college football. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of somebody that has earned a little gratitude from the place in which he works, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. To continue our trend of talking to the NFL's decision makers, general manager of the Kansas City Chiefs, three-time Super Bowl champion, man who played football at Delaware, let's not forget.
33:16Pat McAfee:That's the venue man. Ladies and gentlemen, Brett Veach. Yay, Brett! How you doing, brother? How you guys doing? Hey, I see, I believe, is that a Larson hoodie you have on? Is he doing the Indy 500 this year again or no? No, I don't think he's doing it this year, but he'll be in Texas Motor Speedway this week, and he always runs well at mile-and-a-half tracks. So I think he's going to pull a big victory this Sunday. Hey, what the hell happened to Talladega? I was watching there. Bubba was in the lead there, and then all of a sudden we had a, what, a 100-car pileup, I think, down there at Talladega?
33:47Pat McAfee:Was Kyle a part of that? Did you see that? Talladega. He was shaked up. Oh, Bubba gets a little bump up under there, and then what? Everybody crashes. Wow. That's in the race, basically, except for four. Were you watching live when this was happening during the draft, or did you have to miss this one and only see the clip later, Mr. Brett Veach? Oh, no. I had it on there. I don't miss my NASCAR races, and that's – Smart. That wreck is typical plate racing. You see it at Talladega. You see it at Daytona. But I'll tell you what, hats off to Carson Josebar, man. What a drive. And that kid's been – he's been flirting up there in the top ten the last few years.
34:26And I was kind of joking. and last couple weeks ago we had the Kansas Motor Speedway, and I said it's only a matter of time before he's on one of those Gibbs or Hendrick teams because he's got a ton of talent and cool burnout there at the end. It was exciting for the fans, but that was certainly a lot of fun to watch.
34:41Pat McAfee:Okay, you talk about Gibbs or Hendrick's teams. Obviously that is a couple of destinations that invest a lot of money in what they have going on. We happen to live here in Indianapolis, the home of the greatest race in the history of racing, the Indy 500, which I do believe you got to experience last year, right? I didn't, no, but I'll be there this year. Oh. Yeah. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. Now, I don't know what the weather's going to be. It's seemingly hot. Now it's gotten cold. Hopefully it's perfect. The weather can certainly decide how great of a day that you have, but the Indy 500, especially with how big of a race fan you are, you're going to love it.
35:13Pat McAfee:There's a museum. I mean, it is fantastic. I love how much of a race fan you are. I also appreciate the fact that you're able to balance that alongside being a three-time Super Bowl champion general manager. Let's talk about draft season for you. Let's talk about everything that goes into that. Whenever you're deciding what you need to do with your team, obviously there's self-eval happening throughout the entirety of last season. As you get into offseason, you start shaping together what you want your team to look like. And when you do that, is that when you decide, okay, we've got to move on from McDuffie?
35:43Pat McAfee:Maybe we go young in the defense. First four draft picks will be defense. When in the process do you kind of decide what you're going to do, if that makes sense to you, Brett Feech? Yeah, I mean, I think we're always thinking a year to two years out. And, you know, our mindset is just to just stay fluid. And obviously, Pat, that kind of, you know, directed our decision to go with Mansoor Delane with that first pick. You know, we were trying to keep that one quiet. But, you know, heading into the offseason, we had to obviously make a tough decision trading Trent McDuffie. But in addition to losing Trent, we also lost our cornerback number two, Jalen Watson.
36:22and ironically both to the Rams. So, you know, there are a lot of needs we had entering the draft, but it's very difficult when you lose cornerback number one and cornerback number two. So certainly had our eyes on Mansoor, and if there's one way to Steve Spagnuolo's heart, it's press corners that like to tackle. So really excited to add him, and again, it's always difficult to replace players like Watson, players like McDuffie, but we certainly think Montser has the skill set that will fit nicely in this scheme, and we're certainly excited to have him.
36:56Pat McAfee:Okay, your people, fantastic at what they do, by the way. They sent me over some quotes of Andy Reid talking about drafting on the defensive side of the ball. He basically said something along the lines of, defense matters too. You know, Coach Spagnuolo's going to be happy. That side of the ball is also important. As much as I love the offense, that's an important side of the ball. We had some vacancies there that we need to take care of. So when you look back at last season, and you won a couple years back, it was Spagnuolo's defense kind of leading the way. And then the offense was also, you had Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, so the offense is going to be able to execute in the massive moments.
37:35Pat McAfee:Did you think you got away from good defense? Did you think, like, that's what we need to get back? Like, at this stage of the Chiefs, every dynasty has a bunch of different stages and chapters. At this stage of the Chiefs, you think we need dominant defense? You think that is something that every team needs? But in your eyes, we need to get very strong on the defensive side. And then on offense, what is the thoughts going into next year to maybe get another Lombardi over there? Yeah, that's a great question. I think certainly on the defensive side of things, just the ability to get off the field on third downs.
38:04I mean, I think we did some really good things defensively, but the one area we struggled at was, you know, that third down. And, you know, that's why, again, adding a player like Mansoor Delane, then we added Peter Woods. You know, we want to create a little bit more pressure up front. We've got to get offenses off the field on third down. And then offensively, you know, we certainly have to grow and get better there. And I think, you know, we certainly made, you know, an effort to improve the running game. You know, we added Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker. Feel real good about our offensive line.
38:39We've invested a lot in the offensive line the last few years. We have Creed Humphrey and Trey and then the first-round pick last year. But I think the emphasis on the running game this year and bringing EB back is certainly going to play a factor in that. You guys know how talented he is and how much he demands of the demands he puts on the linemen up front. And obviously Eric's probably one of the best running back coaches of all time. So we're excited to add Kenneth Walker. We added a fifth-round pick in Emmitt Johnson. But I think getting back to the old school play defense and establish that run game, I think, will take a lot of pressure off Pat.
39:17And as he's working back from that injury, allow him to kind of do what he does. And hopefully by midseason, late season, Pat's in that groove, and we have this thing cooking.
39:25Pat McAfee:Did you expect Kenneth Walker to be available like that? Well, you know, I did November, December, and then he went on that playoff heater, and I got a little worried. I think I actually texted Pat during the Super Bowl after he busted that long run and got called back. And I said, you know, he's going to run right to another team because, you know, there wasn't a lot of running backs available. But look, I think Kenneth saw the fit here and saw the vision here. And once that window opened, you know, I think it was pretty clear how much we coveted him. And again, we're super excited to have him here and help get this run game going.
40:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's an incredible player. I cannot wait to see what Andy Reid does with him. And also EB being back in the building. It seems like everybody that's been in the building with him, especially over there in Kansas City, is happy that he is back in the building. You know, we got Drake May. Okay, we got Bo Nix. He's great. Joey Burrow. Sure. Lamar Jackson. What? Daniel Jones. What? Josh Allen. Mendoza in the division now. Yeah, Fernando Mendoza. Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. Okay. you see what we're doing here. We're saying all the quarterbacks that everybody is saying could be, hey, could be, could be.
40:42Pat McAfee:Nobody really talking about Patrick Mahomes' greatness at all over the last probably year, if I had to say. Your thoughts on where Patrick Mahomes is at this stage of his career as the general manager of the team in which he leads. And my thoughts to you quickly, I can't wait to see a pissed off, overlooked Patrick Mahomes back on a football field. I assume you feel the same way? Yeah, no, I mean, it's going to be super exciting. You know, Pat has accomplished everything there is to accomplish already. Now it's about how great is the legacy going to be. It's already at a super high level, but, you know, just how far can he take this thing.
41:25But, you know, I don't want to speak for Rick Berkholder, our trainer, and, you know, I'm not a doctor, but it has been just an awesome experience to see exactly how Pat Mahomes has attacked this rehab process. I mean, in my mind, I mean, you know, he gets hurt, and you kind of figure he would attack this thing, but Pat, I mean, he is in this building, I mean, 7 to 3 to 4 o 'clock every single day. If he goes back to Texas for a few days, he takes one of our assistant trainers with him and flies her to Texas with him. Now, obviously, because of that hard work, I think he's pretty far ahead of schedule.
42:07Again, I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but just such a motivating presence and such an example to the building on how to approach every day like a true professional. I'm excited for him to get back out there. I think our biggest challenge is we have to do a good job of protecting him against himself because I think he wants to – we have 110 rookies out here getting ready to try out this weekend. And, you know, if we told Pat he can go out there and throw to him, he would. So excited for him. As you could imagine, he's crushing this rehab. So it should be a lot of fun. And like I said, hopefully we have a little running game to go with this and now some defensive help.
42:47And hopefully we get right back to where we need to be.
42:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, and he'll stop taking hits too, right? Yeah. Yeah, he'll stop running people over. Yeah, he'll stop running people over. When he was the guest picker down there at Texas Tech, before he gets up on stage, obviously has conversations with Coach Saban, everybody, and he gets to me. And I don't know how often I'm going to get to talk to Patrick Mahomes. And I don't know if he hears anything we say or how locked in he is. So I take that time immediately as somebody outside of his world to say, you got to stop fucking running people over, dude. Okay, we need you in football. We need you in football.
43:19Pat McAfee:You know, we need you to stop. No, I said, we need you to stop taking these hits. and then he responded with, I'm giving the hits. And I said, see, that's what I'm talking about. But he views himself that way, which is why I think we need to respect and appreciate that this guy is in the middle of this great run and I can't wait to see him just being completely forgotten about. He's been completely forgotten about. Now, somebody that has not been forgotten about and I think might be married for next season, none of us know the date, but I think might be a married man. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Brett, past time out of Travis Kelsey, of course, as we know.
43:50and looking forward to all the festivities this summer. But with Travis, it was kind of up in the air for a month or so there. Was he coming back? Was he not? He obviously signs a one-year deal that turns into a three-year deal. But when you get, you know, kind of in the room with him, does it feel kind of like a last dance type, like almost as if, you know, him and Patrick are motivated to show everybody, hey, me and you, we are still that connection. I don't want you announcing his damn retirement right now, But is that one of those types of things that you've kind of gotten a sense of that they want to prove to everybody that this is, you know, still the same old Chiefs?
44:28Well, yeah, I mean, certainly I can't comment on the future after this year. But I will say there was a lot of speculation mid-November, early December about Travis retiring. But we played our last game of the season in Vegas last year. and when we got back, we have player meetings and exit interviews and it was a cool deal where Trav came in and he basically said, I'm going to take a few weeks off here, but I'm not going out like this and let's stay in touch and let's figure something out. And then like 10 minutes later, Andy called me. He's like, hey, did you talk to Travis? And I said, yeah.
45:11And Andy's like, yeah, he's coming back. So we certainly knew ahead of time. And while, you know, free agency was going on and there were still some questions in the air on whether or not he returned, we knew basically the day after our last game that, I mean, he made it known to Coach Reed and to me that there was no way he was going out like this. And I think there's an element, too, of how close him and Pat are that I think Travis wants to be there with Pat for this rehab deal. I mean, you know, you go to training camp, those are long days, and we're still one of the few teams that leaves, and we go away for about a month.
45:45And I think there's that certain element that, you know, Travis wants to make sure Pat sees this rehab all the way through, and they're ready to go week one. But, you know, certainly those two players have, you know, the utmost fire and intensity, and, you know, winning and culture is so important to them. you knew right away that last season left a bad taste in their mouth and they were certainly excited to get back on the field and if it is the last dance, hopefully we make it special but you knew Travis Kelsey wasn't going to go out with the season we had last year
46:21Pat McAfee:I love it, just such a football fuck, Travis he really is he's such an Ohio football dude that is what he is, but he's also incredibly talented and he's representing our sport to the globe It's that Ohio and Pennsylvania thing, Pat. I always, when we're, the first, one of the first questions I ask my scouts when we're watching players, where are they from? You know, what hometown? Where are they from? And so I certainly gravitate to Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, those schools. But, yeah, certainly that Ohio DNA is very similar to the Pennsylvania DNA. Yeah, the Rust Belt, brother. Certainly. Rust Belt.
46:59Pat McAfee:Yeah. Absolutely. You should also, you see South Florida, you should think about it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You see yourself, Lord, you should certainly think about it. Just something from my understanding of what happens there. But I do appreciate the football appreciation from multiple places in the north. Ohio feels like the entire state. And obviously Pennsylvania. Have you seen the Football Town? Have you heard about this Football Town movie that was made? Yeah, I have. And we were at the owners' meetings, and that's when I first kind of saw the sneak preview. And goosebumps. bumps. I mean, you were amazing.
47:34The work that you did, the work that the crew did there, just awesome story. And it kind of just gives people an inside look of just how important football is to Pennsylvania and those steel towns. I'm from central Pennsylvania, so I'm from the coal region, Pat. So, you know, that's in our blood, that's in our DNA. But what a cool story and what a cool production that was. That was awesome.
47:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think that line right there was like uh it's a tough job which produces tough people which is why most tough people like the sport of football it is like kind of a thing that is so they actually tied together hey i think they spoke to a lot of people from the area too like hey let us explain to you why you love ball so much that's that's what it felt like when i was watching it it was like hey let us clarify to you your feelings of why you love ball and why it really was never a decision for you and it was uh it was it was a cool thing to be a part of it thank you for that but yeah i know pennsylvania the Ohio people, I think if they were to watch this, they could put themselves into this as well.
48:33Pat McAfee:Very much. Yeah, it's a good thing, baby. Football is the greatest of all time. Now, let's talk about the team that you have. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, right. You talked about trying to keep your interest for Mentor Delane kind of hidden. Obviously, there was a couple of teams in front of you in the Saints and Commanders that also needed defensive help. How hard is that to do? And at one point, did you know that you had to jump those teams to get him? And it's the interesting because we talked to Les Ney about it with Ty Simpson. Is it a first round thing? Is it more for first-rounders? Is it throughout the whole draft as far as top 30 visits and stuff where you kind of keep your interest hidden?
49:06Yeah, I did see the interview with Les, and I was kind of thinking in my mind that's how we approach that where we kind of looked at the draft picking nine. We have a lot of needs on our team, but we also were picking nine. We typically don't pick this high. We want to take advantage of this opportunity. And I think the way we approached it was we kind of had two things that we knew. One being Mendoza, Love, Bailey, and Reese would be gone by six. And the other thing we knew is that more than likely Cleveland wouldn't be picking at six. Andrew Barry did a great job all weekend moving around the draft board.
49:52but it was known really at the owners' meetings right around that time that they had a lot of interest in moving down. So, again, we kind of knew those four guys would be gone, and we knew that Cleveland wouldn't be picking at six. And so to your point, I think the commanders at seven, we thought they'll be the first team in line for one of those guys, and it happened to be Stiles that snuck through. But we also thought they could go wide out. Now, I think where we got pressed a little was when we were looking at the Saints. So they came into this draft with maybe similar needs, right? They lost two years ago.
50:32They lost Paulson Adibo in free agency. This past offseason, they lost Alante Taylor. So they were kind of down two corners. We just lost two corners in this offseason. But we basically had our analytics people just really, you know, the commanders at seven and the Saints at nine. And I think the data came up slightly into wideout or BPA if one of those top players get through. But we got a little nervous where our analytics came back and they thought that the Saints probably would have a slight tendency to go corner now. I mean, they drafted a great player in Jordan Tyson, and our analytics people said, you know, you're going to be looking at pick nine, Jordan Tyson, Caleb Downs, Montserrat Delane.
51:16We looked at the Saints, and we're like, gosh, man, they're down a bunch of corners. We're down a bunch of corners. Washington's not trading, so if you want this guy, you've got to go to six because the Saints aren't going to trade. And, you know, I know Mickey really well, and I've been in that position before where Mickey's – if there's one guy that's more aggressive than me, it's Mickey. Mickey's not trading back. But that was the guy we wanted. We had him as a top five player, and certainly Spaggs kind of fell in love with him during the process. But also, too, going back to your original question and kind of the gamesmanship, and to Les' point, we actually canceled his 30 visits because the internet and teams, they do such a great job of monitoring all the players that come into the building.
51:59So we were like, let's just not even bring him in for a visit. But in addition, we didn't Zoom him until maybe the day or two before the draft. I mean, we waited until the last minute on everything, and we just wanted to not show our hand. And I think we took some people by surprise. But I think if you really looked at our roster, it probably didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when a team loses their number one and number two corner, a corner might be neat. He's the best corner in the draft. So that's kind of the thought process and why, you know, we went up there and just got the guy we wanted.
52:34Pat McAfee:Okay. Do you tell him when you cancel his visit or his agent, like, hey, this is no hard feelings? Or do you have to just say no? You just tell him no, see you later? Yeah, we've done that before. With this one, we didn't even get there. It was on the schedule. And so our personnel staff was, he was on the list of guys to contact during the day. I met with Steve and then I actually pulled his name before we even reached out to the agent. I even think the agent was surprised too because God, this is so crazy. His kids can't know anything. Going through the draft process, you're going to have no idea.
53:08Pat McAfee:Hey, this team purposely was not interested in you just so that nobody else knew because they wanted you that bad. It's crazy what you guys have to do. Well, that's because you guys do a great job of covering it. Well, I'll tell you what, I think the Chiefs are going to need a corner. yeah and you look at spag's defense feels like lsu kids the one feels like that yeah i'm sure it's us that are deciding that but it is everything's known now everything's known about everything if you were to get uh a beer with somebody we would know it like immediately somebody's posting a picture of it say hey they're taking pictures everywhere by the way yeah okay you know that okay everywhere everywhere everywhere okay so we know everything at all times about everything is what the world is now.
53:51Pat McAfee:And I like that you're using that as a way to kind of hold leverage and still gamesmanship. I respect it. When Les Needs said I liked it, when you said it I liked it, it feels like this is a younger version and poker players in this type of thing. Okay, last question here for you, Brett. And this is about what's about to happen, I do believe. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Brett, because of Patrick, everyone's always going to mention needing to get more weapons. And then when you look at who's currently available free agent-wise, especially with the receivers there are a lot of good vets available how likely is it that you will make a move whether it's you know receiver or another position of need before training camp or over the next several weeks here yeah there's certainly a possibility of that um in fact some of those players that you have listed there i think i've i've spoken to some of those agents already and i think where we are now from a process standpoint as i mentioned we have our rookies in this week I think we had eight or nine draft picks.
54:48I think we signed 16 undrafted free agents, but we have 110 guys here trying out. So we'll see. We might flip some of those guys. Some of those guys may end up on our roster. And then after that, we'll officially have our 90. And then we're going to go through probably phase two. But we'll start picking up the phone, reaching out to agents. We may have some visits here in the late spring, early summer before training camp. But I think we're always looking to get 1 % better. And if something makes sense for us and something makes sense for the player and the agent, we're all for it. And who knows?
55:23We'll see. But we'll certainly be making a lot of calls.
55:25Pat McAfee:Kyle Van Noy's right in his striking shit. Yep. Yeah, he certainly is. Kyle Van Noy, he's also a free agent. Somebody let people know. We certainly will. Veach, thank you so much for everything. Thank you for the process. Thank you for the detail. And we'll talk to you next time. Good luck. Always. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Who's winning the Indy 500? I haven't, listen, I am knee deep right here in my derby work right here. Once I get past the derby. Who do you like? Who do you like? Who do you like? I mean, listen, so, I mean, you got obviously Renegade. I hate betting favorites. I hate horses that get stuck on the rail.
56:04But I mean, if there's two people I trust in the horse racing game, it's Duke Tobin and Mickey Loomis. They both gave me Renegade. I like Chief Wallaby, you know, but there's something about this further than that. Further Ado, I mean, you know, I think he lost by a nose to Chief Wallaby, but, I mean, that was a race off a layoff. I think he came back and won his derby prep by, like, ten lanes. I think he's sitting on a big one. So I'm going to go with Further Ado, I think. But what the hell do I know?
56:33Pat McAfee:Yeah. It sounds like you know a lot more than me. I appreciate you doing that, ladies and gentlemen. That's Brett V. What do you do? Ask him if he can come back in an hour. Further Ado. Further Ado it is. Hey, Mickey Loomis and... Duke Tobin. Love Renegade. Is that Rapoli working the strings there? Could be. That would make sense. I thought he was going to say, there's nobody I trust more than Rapoli in the game. I almost went like, I learned the stats. We're back on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice might change your life. See you on the other side.
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58:38Pat McAfee:Back-to-back Jackson, back-to-back games in two different jerseys in the same damn day. Had a monster day for the Phillies. Phillies are in an interesting spot because they've got a lot of stars. They've spent a lot of money. Started out as an ass baseball team. Fired their guy. Now we'll see if they're able to move on. Schwarbo says, why don't we put the team on my stick? Because he hits bombs yesterday. MLB does that every single day. Today we're also going to be a part of something very, very special, which is obviously an honor every time we get to do it. we get a chance to be a part of somebody saying where they're going to go play football at next out of high school these sensations have massive decisions to be made especially with financial implications that we've never seen before and we get asked if we want to be a part of their magical day we say yes we're thankful that we'll have one of those in about eight minutes from now hey through this process we've learned about the next generation of uh ballers oh yeah this guy today is a guy might be the best one yeah it is his name is wonderful Wolfel, champ, Mons, the fourth.
59:39Pat McAfee:And he can spin it. 16 years old. He reclassified. He was the number one prospect in the world for the 2028 class. Reclassifies. I don't know how you just test out, I guess. I'm smarter than everybody. Let me go ahead and just eliminate a year. I know people used to do that to become doctors and shit. Correct. They had like 14-year-olds would test out of things, and then they'd go to college. Yeah, Padugue Houser. Exactly. Football dogs. Football guys are doing it. So he has to be super smart, too, by the way, to test out of a grade. Certainly. Move up a grade. Graduate high school. He's in and out of the class of 20, 27.
1:00:06Pat McAfee:He's making his decision today on where he's going to school. And there's a good chance that this 16-year-old we're going to see is going to be 20 when he gets drafted to the NFL. And we're going to watch him just go crazy. And we're going to be lucky enough to say that we were a part of wonderful actual first name, champ, I think middle name, nickname, Mons, last name, the fourth. Love it. Yep. There will be a fifth. There has been three others before. We can't wait to celebrate with all of them. It's a huge day. We'll do that in about five minutes or so. So sports are great, obviously. Talks to tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt.
1:00:39Pat McAfee:Won't have the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone. Tone, the Kentucky Derby is tomorrow. Obviously, massive day in the gambling world. Renegade, still the favorite, but I heard morning lines is when things start to move. I heard it's going to be a chilly day in the track. What's that mean? Yeah, so tomorrow, obviously, is the Derby. The Oaks are today, which is a huge event as well. Yes, Renegade is still your favorite. 58 is the height for the Derby tomorrow. No rain, though, so it should be a fast track still. I checked the conditions this morning. It's a fast track. We're not going to have mutters out there.
1:01:11No mutters will be muttering. But no, Renegade is out there. You heard Brett Feech talk about further ado. He is one of the favorites. Chief Wallaby, Commandment, Incredibolt. Ooh, I like that one. I like that one. Who was it today that scratched Mr. Party? Something that wanted to have a party scratch today. But no, it's going to be a great day yesterday. The Derby is the 12th race of the day. Correct me if I'm wrong, Bruce. I believe there's two races after that. A lot of races to gamble on today and tomorrow down it. Yeah, it's not the last race of the day.
1:01:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a whole festival of horse racing. And remember, these aren't necessarily the fastest horses in the world. That's the Breeders' Cup. That's the adult horses. These are the young horses. These are the babies still getting after Bowl 1, I believe. Yeah, until you're three or whatever. Now,$3 million obviously payout for the winner. What's that to? How much does a horse get in hay? That's a good point. How much horse hay is allotted out of that$3.1 million for whoever wins this? Bruce Brown is the man who used to own one of these horses. I want to know how many apples. I think all of it.
1:02:10Pat McAfee:$3.1 million in apples? Yeah, I think at least three, and then the connections get$100 ,000. Don't lie to us. We know what happens. I bet the horse union's pretty good. 51%. Oh, yeah? The glue factory union's pretty good. They haven't been able to negotiate that out just yet. Yeah, I think we know what happens after the race. Not if you win. You're getting a bushel of apples. If you come in last, sure, they're going to shoot you in the head. No, we don't know. That's what Joker said last night. You lose, boom. Let's not talk about the L's. Let's talk about the Dubs. Sure. Okay, the Dubs, they're living a life of luxury.
1:02:43Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:43Pat McAfee:Stud not. Yeah, exactly. You're getting so many delicious right now. Oh, my God. The Washington apples. Honey crisp. Just so loud. Were you born in a barn? Yeah. Actually. Leave a door open. riding around. Must be fun. Beautiful creatures. For those top fives. Let's just remember that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Kentucky Derby enthusiast, a man who's been to plenty of races in his day and is actually a part of the horse culture. Ladies and gentlemen, his face is just as long as a horse, and that's because it was a weapon. Ladies and gentlemen, he's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers.
1:03:19Pat McAfee:He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Haw. Baby Haw. There he is. Just like I said. Just like I said. Just like you said it would. I'm not really part of the horse culture. I have been to the Derby many times, but still don't know anything about the whole situation. How many Derbys have you been to if you had just Brock's progress? I'd say 10 plus, most likely. Okay, so you're part of the horse, man. Yeah. You're doing the red carpet thing. You're drinking the juleps. Yeah, mint juleps. Mint juleps. I've had one, yeah. I don't love them, but I've had them, yeah.
1:03:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, smoking stugs with Kid Rock. Yeah. Having so much fun. Highlight. Talking to the owners of the horses, right? Hey, we rubbing any of that balm on the ass cheeks that got that one guy expended or expelled forever? Do you remember that was the situation? What was that, two years ago? Yeah, Bobo. He's back. The horse community's wild. You've been a part of it, so tell us about what we should expect from watching the Kentucky Derby tomorrow at home. What are the participants inside of that horse racing jungle experiencing? I don't know if I'm exactly the guy to give you the type of insight that you're looking for here, but yeah, the Derby, you are right though.
1:04:20I think the Derby race is like the 12th race of the day. That was news to me the first time I went. I thought it was just one race. There's like 11 leading up to it, and then there's a couple races afterwards, that's kind of a fun time to hang around because the majority of the place clears out and you can sit there and make all your weird random bets you want to make. There's two or three races afterwards.
1:04:37Pat McAfee:Kentucky Derby is a lot of good fun. Just kind of gambling on things you know nothing about. Best name? That'll get a bet from me. Sometimes people just bet strictly off odds, right? Don't they, Bruce? Bruce Brown actually in the horse community has owned a horse before. He's very informed on the horse racing biz, I would say. Yeah, I try to be. I haven't been keeping up to the day-to-day as much, so it was a lot of cramming. I was up until about 1 a.m. last night. Self-handicapping. Yeah, it does. Right after you get that. I'll give you a full intro, but hey, we have an expert. That's what I just said.
1:05:10Pat McAfee:Yeah. That's what I just said. Well, actually, not this year because I haven't been watching it. In the past, you got to say, that's a factual statement. If he stayed up until 1 a.m. We got the notes. Like I said, I was up until 1 in the fucking morning going through. Oh, okay. Going through all these things. Who's your pick, Bruce? Commandment in the sixth slot is the most sort of prototypical triple crown contender when you look at how they run, the size of the horse, the puma in the ninth slot outside of him. There's a puma race in this? Yeah. I'll take the jungle cat. Okay, yeah. So happy is the great story.
1:05:46It is the trainer's first time in the derby. His wife, unfortunately, passed away this year. It's a bit of a guardian angel coming in. so happy has a legit chance so happy
1:05:57Pat McAfee:let's talk to Marty Smith in about 30 minutes I think he did a piece on so happy yes exactly beat Baffert so happy did in the Santa Anita Derby and then on the outside 13 you got Potente that's Baffert's horse this year 14 emerging market is interesting and then you can go way out to further ado in the 17 hole the 17 slot is 0 for 46 in the Kentucky Derby. No one has ever won coming out of the 17 poll. So Brett Veach is hoping for history there. Okay, well good luck to Brett Veach and Freddie. And Freddie you do. And Freddie you do. Obviously it seems like those are long shots because they've got the longest yardage or meters.
1:06:42Pat McAfee:What do they judge it in? Meters? Mileage? What is it? Furlong? Furlong? Yeah, furlongs, but it is a mile and a quarter, I believe. Furlongs? That's not a thing. Yeah, six furlongs is a sprint. When they first said it, everybody was like, that's not furlong. And now it's just kind of stuck around in the horse community. I think it's like four lengths or some shit. How many hands are these horses? Are we talking? That's a good question. How many hands are we talking whenever it comes to the horses? Do you know, Bruce? There are a lot of hands. Horses are pretty big. So how many hands? This is disgusting.
1:07:16How many hands? Make a stab at the lamb next time. Let's get hands in there.
1:07:20Pat McAfee:I know that's a thing that horses have, right? Their hands is how tall they are. Is that accurate? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey. He does it. 16 hands tall he stood. Wake up, Bruce. All right. We act like we understand horses. We don't. Jeez, wait. Bruce used to, I guess. Now we're in a different stage of life. Shout out to the breakdown, though. That was very good stats. Don't bet on the 17 horse, it does seem like. And we talked about it earlier, how there are moments that happen on our show that are so cool because we understand that they're going to probably last forever and who knows where this story all goes ladies and gentlemen every once in a while we get to be a part of somebody's history run it foxy
1:08:10it's a big day for some big names locking in the play in some big games Tis a big day for some big names Lockin' in the play and some big games
1:08:22Pat McAfee:Where you goin' next? Recruitin' is like chess Got a 4D if you wanna be the best Announce it on the show, where you gonna go? Everybody waitin', they all wanna know Tis a big day for some big names Lockin' in the play and some big games Just a big day for some big names Locking in and playing some big games Ah, yes it is. Who's going where next? We find out now. Ladies and gentlemen, 6 '3", 230-pound, 16-year-old, who was once from the 2028 class, reclassified with his big-ass brain to be a part of the 2027 class. Now to announce where he will be playing his football after this upcoming senior year at Vero Beach High School.
1:09:11Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, wonderful, Champ Mons IV. Yeah! Yes, sir. Thank you. Wonderful. How you doing, buddy? Thank you so much for joining us. And shout out to the family. I don't know everybody's names around there, but great to see everybody. Is Wonderful III up there? Yes, sir. Wonderful III is right here, actually. Great to see you, man. Wonderful III. Could you imagine what your fodder's fodder would think about the fourth version of the wonderful Mons family? No, I couldn't. Special family, man. We've been learning about you over the last couple days and watching your highlights, learning about you reclassifying.
1:09:49Pat McAfee:Obviously, you're only 16 and this is all happening, but can you take me back through a little bit of your football life and recruiting life when this all started and the decision to reclassify? How massive is all of that in this entire process? I mean, I've been getting recruited ever since coming in as a ninth grader. You know, I'm blessed to be in this position, and we decided to reclass. We felt like it would be the best for my development to get on the college level next year. So, you know, my grades were good enough, so we made the decision. Miss Sherry, I believe his mom in the back right there.
1:10:22Pat McAfee:Hi, Miss Sherry. How are you? Hey, I'm good. That's incredible. I could barely graduate high school right now. The fact that he's doing it a year less, obviously, great work by the entire family. And I believe that's Sister Naya in the back there. Hi, Naya. Hi. Hi. Thank you for joining us. And then the jacked guy on the right side of the screen. Who's that wonderful? I'll take it back. My agent. Sean. Sean over there. Hey, what's up? You're from Rosenhaus' crew, yeah? Yes, sir. Appreciate you having us, Pat. Hey, no problem. And then on the other side over there to the left with the white hat, looks like he just got off a golf course.
1:10:57what's going on brother that's the head man coach jay head coach hey what up coach all right okay
1:11:04Pat McAfee:wonderful we are so thankful that you have all the people closest to you around you in this moment and if you'd like to let the world know where you're headed next we'd be honored to be a part of it sir the show the floor is yours yes sir um first of all i want to thank god you know without him this would be possible i got to thank all these people behind me my parents for pushing me to be who I am today. Coach J for pushing me every day in practice. Sean for getting this set up. And then all my teammates, you can't see them, but these guys, these guys, I'll let them. Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
1:11:36Pat McAfee:Yes, sir. But hey, for the next three to four years, I'll be attending University of Notre Dame. Whoa!
1:11:51Pat McAfee:Huge for Marcus Freeman. Congratulations to you and your family. The Fighting Irish, obviously incredible football school, but school in general and also alumni and future life. What a wonderful decision. As you tell the boys, hey, boys, boys, we've got to finish this conversation before we go crazy here on this Feel Good Friday. We don't want to eat into your good times, but why Notre Dame for you? Wonderful. And congrats to you on this decision. You know, I feel like Notre Dame has everything you can think of when it comes to academics. academics, people in the coaching staff. Just overall, I feel like it's the best fit for me and my parents.
1:12:28We all sat down. Probably one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make. But we felt like this would be best for me.
1:12:34Pat McAfee:Congratulations to you. AJ has a question for you. Wonderful. Yeah, wonderful. Marcus Freeman, I was lucky enough to play football in college with your head coach, Marcus Freeman. I guess what was it about him starting out when he was recruiting you that kind of made Notre Dame a place that you might want to go? I mean, first of all, he's super down to earth. Like, when you're talking to him, you're not – you don't feel like he's on any other higher level than you. He's just such a humble guy. And he was just telling me different things of how I'd be in the program, how I would fit. And that's the reason why they wanted me to join their program.
1:13:05So, Coach Freeman, I feel like he's a great guy and a great coach. And I can't wait to see what they do this year.
1:13:10Pat McAfee:Mr. Wonderful Mons III, Notre Dame, obviously, whenever you talk about the history of ball, it'll be a part of it. I mean, tradition, everything. Some people only know college ball through Notre Dame football. When you guys get to this decision, what is your immediate first sense for your son about to be a member of the Fighting Irish? I would just say I'm just happy and proud that he's going to a school that has great academics and great culture. And I'm just happy that he's a part of it. Ms. Sherry, this is obviously a crazy time in recruiting. how have you guys been able to stay so tight and seemingly keep the entire family including the boys in the locker room so humble through it all congratulations on managing this crazy chaos through it all thank you uh it goes back to what champ said that it's god first we put god first in every decision that we've made and he hasn't let us wrong yet so we're going to keep the faith and keep going.
1:14:13Hey, that is wonderful.
1:14:16Pat McAfee:Congratulations to the entire Collins family and good luck the rest of the way. We can't wait to follow your career. You're going to be the best. Yes, sir. Thank you. Hey, work your ass off, wonderful. Yeah. I will. Alright, champ. See you, buddy. Congratulations.
1:14:34Pat McAfee:Man, 16. He's coming to a great state. He is. 6 '3", 230. 6 '3", 230. He's a 16-year-old, able to just test out of a grade okay that's got a hose notre dame it's like what this is marcus freeman dinner here now i will say i did not know rosenhouse was going to have a representative on camera thought that guy did look good yeah yeah he was he was angling pretty good i think i think he potentially knew what was happening i think he's seen instagram before you know especially fresh out of coachella and stayed a stage coach there's a lot of good posing going on. I think he had good lighting, too, on the entirety.
1:15:11Pat McAfee:But Rosenhouse hit us up and was like, I got a guy, you know, he's a big fan of the show, would love if you, and I'm like, we're like, sure, man. Rosenhouse, you've been good to us in the past, bro. That's all good. And he goes, you should see this guy, though. Like, hey, this might be the guy. One of the most impressive tapes we've seen out of anybody who has committed on the show. So then we search it, and it's like, whoa, he can really spin it. Oh, he can really move. What is, he looks big. Is he big? Oh, he's how old? Wait, he was just in eighth grade? So what the hell's going on here? And we can't wait to see what he does at Notre Dame.
1:15:44Pat McAfee:Congratulations to Marcus Freeman. That has to feel damn good to get one of those. AJ, college football is crazy. I don't know if you saw what Kirby Smart said earlier today, talking about the Big Ten. I mean, Notre Dame obviously not in the Big Ten, but it's certainly not in the SEC. It's not in any conference, which people certainly were pissed off about, which wonderful, great decision. You guys do well. You're going to be in the playoffs. And once you get in the dance, you can do what you got to do. Kirby Smart mentioned, he said, hey, we had more people get drafted in the NFL. Still, this is like 100 years straight.
1:16:12Pat McAfee:We've had more people get drafted in the NFL. So in theory, we have a more talented roster, but the Big Ten's kind of beating our ass. It was kind of the topic of the conversation. He said, I'm looking for all theories. Are they better coaches than us? I mean, is that happening? Is it a better league than us? Is our league too good? He's like kind of grasping for answers as well. It feels like everybody's in the same world right now understanding the climate of college football, AJ. Yeah, I think Tone actually had an interesting take saying, you know, the depth that you used to be able to build at these big-time schools, it's just you can't really do it anywhere.
1:16:43And you definitely can't, you know, stash guys, third team in the SEC, they're receivers, but they got two first-team All-Americans in front of them. Like, you don't really get that development, I think, that you used to. But it's the same for everybody. So, I don't know. Maybe Kirby mentioned it. Yeah, people – I mean, Brett Beach actually, great publicity for Ohio and PA, If you hear him talking about Ohio and Pennsylvania players, he likes to look at and know where guys are from. I thought that was a great endorsement for both states. But I'm with Kirby, too. You're always trying to figure it out.
1:17:13What is it? Why? He was right. The bottom half of the SEC is definitely better than the bottom half of the Big Ten. The question is, those top two, three, four teams in both conferences, who's better?
1:17:25Pat McAfee:Yeah, it doesn't matter. I don't know. That the bottom half is better or worse. Well, Kirby said some SEC coach was like, yeah, yeah, it matters. When we're sweating out of week nine, yeah, the stress. Down in Starkville. The anxiety, yeah, that wears you down. Kirby said, I didn't say it. Some other coach said, you know, you've got to actually at least take it into consideration a little bit. I mean, he's thinking a lot deeper than I am, but long season, hard game every game. I mean, that'll drain you a little bit. But then it's like, well, there's a month until the playoffs. Yes, there is. Well, we're just talking about, you know, to get in to the dance, you know, as you've got to do it.
1:18:00Pat McAfee:It is – and Nick Saban said it. I know because I very early in this NIL process, because I've been very fortunate over the last few years to have a seat in college football show, you know, like literally in college football show. I have almost become a pseudo representative of the Big Ten on this. I want to West Virginia. It's in the Big 12. OK, so I just I speak of it as the north. That is what I always say. The north is coming. The north is coming because that is kind of what's happening. And what we have learned is the north is very invested. A lot of schools much more invested than they knew were even possible in the past.
1:18:34Pat McAfee:And then once the North starts winning, boy, that makes it a lot easier for me. But I think Saban at the beginning of that, I mean, we've all seen the videos. Who knows how he felt about me at the very beginning of that whole thing. I think he liked me. That one video is pretty damning, though. I mean, he is giving me a pretty nasty look at something. You know, but nonetheless, we've gotten to a great spot now in the entirety. But I think at the beginning, he was just kind of shooing me away. This doofus doesn't know. But I think I was trying to read the tea leaves a little bit early. Like, hey, I think a lot of the players that would go elsewhere are now thinking about heading to the cold weather.
1:19:07Pat McAfee:Well, they're going to have to get paid to go cold. That's the only way. It's like, yep, and they are doing that. Does that change, AJ? Is this just what college ball is now? Is that just what it is now? It'll go back and forth. I think, I mean, you guys were talking earlier. Like, it will be funny to see can a team like Northwestern, all of a sudden they get a bunch of boosters behind them. They build a roster in a year or two. Can they make a run? Like, are we going to see teams like that, like what Indiana did? can we see that happen again? I don't know. I think it's pretty damn difficult to do that.
1:19:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, Signetti though is seemingly reloading. I forgot to send a Zoom to somebody. Whoops. That's on me. I'm sure it wouldn't get brought up by this guy immediately either. I'm sure it would not. I'm going to let it be known. The dude that's about to join our show and about to join our show, basically, This guy's electric. Awesome. This guy is absolutely – I don't know how long it's going to take for him to get that to the thing, to do the whole thing. 100 % on me here. Definitely my fault. Huge day today. This is a huge day. This is a huge day. Day before the Derby, obviously. NHL playoffs, NBA playoffs.
1:20:15Day before your birthday.
1:20:18Pat McAfee:39, okay. Yeah, it is right in between. Happy early birthday. Thank you. Hey, happy early birthday, man. Happy early birthday. I was going to do it somehow. Happy early birthday. Thank you, everybody. Let's not feel obligated to say it. What goes around? Yeah, you're right. Classic. It could be worse. Happy early birthday. I'm going to turn off all my shit tomorrow. Turn off all no mentions. Can't even mention my name. What if I erased my account? That'd be pretty fun. That'd be awesome. You shouldn't do that. People are doing that lately, though. Yeah, I've seen some people disappear quickly from multiple different platforms.
1:20:55Pat McAfee:I guess it's possible this guy this is your guy my back my back this is your guy alright give you a standing up ladies and gentlemen your freaking guy man your guy thank you by the way for the kindness thank you I am very lucky and thankful that I have survived another trip around the sun and that's good people get real creative in telling me happy birthday while telling me to eat shit at the same time and it's just like alright so I might just turn it all off it's fun it's a really fun time Ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who's late to his first ever appearance. Okay, 22 years in the NBA, 12-time All-Star, 11-time All-NBA, two-time Olympic gold, second all-time in assists in the NBA history, seven-time All-Defense, he's bopping wood.
1:21:43Pat McAfee:Love that. This guy bops wood. All day. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. This guy bops wood, AJ. Seven-time all defense. That's probably that. That's legit. Now, there was 15 seasons, though, where he wasn't. So now you've got to really start wondering what's going on. Fourth pick from Wake Forest, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris! How you doing, man? What up, what up? Tell the people why I was late, first of all, Pat. They know, they know. I already admitted it. I didn't send a Zoom link to Chris Paul. It's 100 % on me. Great day, great conversations.
1:22:20Pat McAfee:love the TST hoodie because obviously we got a chance to meet you in person down there in beautiful Cary, North Carolina as you're one of the owners of TST, the soccer tournament, which is right around the corner. Cannot wait to see how that all goes. Chris, thank you for joining us. Thank you for becoming a friend of the Thunderdome in the morning over the last couple days. You have been electrifying to talk to. We would like to let you know that. I do have some questions though. Last time I talked to you, I did not know you were seven-time all defense. I'm just learning that here now. Nine-time.
1:22:47Nine-time. Get that right. Yeah, I think I put on there seven first time, first team all D. Oh, you're right. You're right. Oh, two times, second team. Yeah, we don't really count second here, Chris, but I guess you do. Hey, listen.
1:23:00Pat McAfee:Top 10 defense, you got to do what you got to do there. Okay, so 9, 22 minus 9 would be what, 13 then? Is that the number? So 13. 21. 21 minus 9. 12. Callen's tough. Okay. 12. Okay, so there's 12 seasons you weren't on all defense. Lazy or is that towards the end? How do we end up not on the all defensive team? That's a good question, man. You know, a couple of those years, I think I might have played like 60 games, 61 games or something like that. Not eligible. That was even before the rule had been put in. No, it was just they didn't. I broke my hand one of those years and whatnot. I mean, I had five hand surgeries.
1:23:44Pat McAfee:Golly. Jesus. You're the best. And we appreciate you joining us. Let's dive into some NBA playoff talk, shall we? Joker's out. Timberwolves win without basically three, four of their best players. Joker seemingly more frustrated than usual. How should we view Joker as somebody from outside looking in? Very rarely the headlines, not really the topic of discussion all season long. Playoffs are kind of the time we learn about him. He loves horses. He's incredible at basketball. Seems upset. Is he ever going to be on the move? How should we view Joker in the nugs? and then what are the thoughts on the Timberwolves?
1:24:17First, he's amazing. Amazing basketball player, amazing player. I got a chance to know him during one of the All-Star games, during one of the All-Star weekends. So great guy and knows every little detail of the game. He actually leads the league usually in kicked basketballs, right? But that means when people try to throw like pocket passes, he's so smart and he's such a great passer that he kicks the ball, which makes you have to take it out of bounds. So I got the utmost respect for him. It's a tough loss they just had, but it was dope to see Jay McDaniels do what he did.
1:24:51Pat McAfee:On that note, AJ, I don't know if you know this, but we got a segment. What? Yeah, we got a new segment. Chris Ball is going to be joining us through the rest of the playoffs and hopefully more down the road. He obviously a man 21 years in the NBA, seven-time first-team all-defense. events obviously the uh accolades stack on top 12 time all-star 11 time all-nba two-time olympic gold medalist will help us out not being doofuses the rest of the way now where the hell have you been the last couple weeks certainly a question but excited that we're getting started now for the rest of the way we wanted to put together some ideas so you can kind of guide the conversation on what we need to dive in on so we started a new segment ladies and gentlemen it's time for CP's top three.
1:25:37Pat McAfee:You see that because he's CP three. These are his top three storylines. I see what you did there. I see what you did there. Thank you. Jaden McDaniels, though, one of them, especially because how he's kind of handled himself in this entire series. What are your thoughts on why we need to be paying attention to McDaniels a little bit more? Because, man, this league, you sort of get categorized as a particular player, right? So it's a lot of guys, they call them three and D, or they just be like defenders. And so me watching him play in this series, of course, everybody wanted to talk about how he called guys out and was doing all that.
1:26:11But I got the respect for him because he is a defender. He guarded me just about every time we played against each other. But to see what he did in this series offensively, that's tough because he's showing he's a two-way player. Kind of like Dylan Brooks. Everybody always knew Dylan Brooks as a defender. But when you come out and you make the big shots that he made to close this series out. That's big time.
1:26:33Pat McAfee:Goes for 30 as a defensive specialist, potentially. Also fought Joker a couple of different times. I think that's how a lot of us learned of him. What you're saying is around the league, everybody respected. How many of these defensive guys are there in the league? How many of these types of guys are there? And then obviously evolving into an offensive threat is a big piece of your sustainability in the league for these types of guys? Yeah, there's a lot of guys in the league who, you know, they know their assignment going into every game. is to guard the best player, right? So that's Jay McDaniels.
1:27:04That's probably been his role. But that's what a lot of kids don't understand. I'm sure when he was in college, high school, all that stuff, he got buckets, right? So people have the ability to do that. That's just not what their team calls on them to do. But when you see Ant go down and you see DiVincenzo go down, everybody just has to step up. So to see him do that in this series, like those shots, those middies he hit right there on Jamal Murray down the stretch, that's tough and that's big shot after big shot and so uh i respect it okay let's move to another
1:27:36Pat McAfee:series in which you are pumped up the philadelphia 76ers absolutely going ham maxi goes crazy but it's not just maxi in philadelphia you're saying there's somebody else that you would like to spotlight a little bit yeah man vj vj eschum um man i've known him for a while he actually is uh His high school coach was a college teammate of mine. And so everybody always talks about the playoffs and how it was for the vets and all this stuff like that. Man, Vijay a rookie, a rookie. But I just love his mindset of not waiting. Right. I'm not going to wait to see what the league is in five or six years.
1:28:17He go out there and he just he get to it right away. And Tyrese, everybody know what type of time he on at all times. but this is going to be a dangerous backcourt for a real long time.
1:28:27Pat McAfee:Okay, are the Celtics worried right now, CP? Is this a oh-no for the Boston Celtics with a 76ers team that people have been trying to trust the process for about 10 years with? Is this the time for them to maybe upset the Celtics? I don't know about all that, but if you're the Celtics, you're not worried because you've been there, done that. Obviously, you get to go home before game seven, and you got Jalen Brown, you got Jason Tatum, You got DJ White. They have a great foundation. They got a great coach, a great system. I mean, they're a really good team that's not going to beat themselves. And what did they say?
1:29:03The best two words in sports is Game 7. So it's going to be a big-time game.
1:29:09Pat McAfee:That is the best two words in sports is Game 7 for your guys' sport. Okay? Are you going to get Sunday, huh? Super Bowl. That's two words, right? Yeah, it is. Super Bowl. I think that is it's good first done touch done these are all good two words but I understand in your guy in the off season game 7 is electrifying are you guys going to be able to handle it Conman? is Boston going to be able to handle Tyrese Maxey and Vijay and the V stands for vet somehow and he's only just a rookie says Chris Paul who is the most points in the history of game 7 Oh, Jason Tate. So I think we'll be okay. Yeah.
1:29:55Is that right? Yeah, I think we'll be. Now, him hurting his other calf last night definitely doesn't make me feel great, especially after what happened last year.
1:30:04Pat McAfee:And Max, he's fast. So maybe we get a little bit of bench help. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, maybe you guys put the exciting five out there. Yeah, exactly. Let's get Peyton Pritchard. Yeah, let's get Luka Garza. Peyton Pritchard, nice too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Peyton Pritchard. best contract in sports you and him you and him uh if you were to you think similar playing style as peyton pritchard you would describe yourself i don't know about that peyton shoots the ball real deep you know but um i actually send my son videos of peyton at times you know just because of his ball handling and a lot of people see these players and see what they're doing don't realize the work that they put in so i got he's another guy that uh is a really good player yeah Yeah, he grew up playing.
1:30:48He's told this story before. Steve Blake used to pick him up when he was in high school every single day during the summer, and him and Steve Blake would just play one-on-one for hours every single day, Peyton Pritchard, and then he took a massive jump and became my Caterade Player of the Year.
1:31:02Pat McAfee:Okay, so that's what you need to do to your kids. All right, I got it. Call Steve Blake. All right, let's go to the third of CP's top three storylines. J.J. Redick is a great coach. Okay, I like that we're at this stage because he was getting a lot of shit when he got hired. I like that you want to give him a little publicity about being, hey, this guy, everybody's talking about LeBron right now. Let's talk about what J.J. Redick has done as a coach, CP. I mean, it's no secret. J.J. was a teammate of mine, right? And so it was actually surprising when I saw that he was going to be a coach. And honestly, people are like, man, what you think?
1:31:34What you think? J.J. is, I don't care what it is. If J.J. said he was going to become a chef tomorrow, J.J. is going to be a great chef. J.J. is one of the most dedicated and competitive people that I've probably ever been around in my life. So I just, I know he's going to put in the work or whatever to make sure his team's prepared. And I know he may go and do the same.
1:31:56Pat McAfee:Okay, so tell me about this Lakers team then. Let's talk about it. I think you know LeBron a little bit, I think. I'm not 100 % sure. We're not bringing it up. The boat, right? Isn't there a boat? Oh, banana boat? Yeah. We're not bringing it up. I'm not doing it. Everybody else has done it. But you just did, but it's all good. No, but I did it in a way of saying I'm not doing it. So I would like that to be on the record of I'm not doing it because everybody else has done it. It's old. We're past it. I'm not doing it. We're not doing it, right? No, no point. We had a big conversation about this.
1:32:26Pat McAfee:We even FaceTimed AJ. AJ, we said we ain't doing a banana boat bullshit. No, we're not. We're way past that, didn't we? Almost like that as long as you say we all do respect. Yeah, exactly. That's what we said. You can say whatever you want to. You can say whatever you want to as long as you say we all do respect. Well, that was at the beginning of the conversations that we were having earlier. We were like, with all due respect here, to the banana boat. Yeah. Because that thing is legendary. Big time. With all due respect to the banana boat, we're going to put that thing to bed. Yes. Bye-bye, banana boat.
1:32:56Pat McAfee:We don't need you anymore. That was the decision we made. So I'd like to go on the record saying, I'm proud of us. Yeah, good job, guys. Good for us. Good for us. Chris. Thank you, Chris. Good job, guys. Good job. All right. Oh, man. It looked like fun, honestly. Dude, so much fun. I mean, very rarely do you get that as an adult. You get to feel that. You've never done that. We're not doing it. Not doing it. Are we talking about the game? Are we talking about the Lakers? What are we talking about? We were just talking about the banana boat that we're not talking about. We are done talking about the banana boat.
1:33:26Pat McAfee:Let's talk about the game in the Lakers, okay? Let's talk about LeBron James here. 41 years old. Obviously, you were an old ass while you were playing in the NBA as well. The amount of things you have to do to your body to get up for one game, let alone 82, let alone a playoff series, all that stuff. Can you put into kind of perspective what he probably has to do to get ready for games and why we're seeing what we're seeing? And what do you think the odds are of him being able to close this out? Because if he doesn't, they're going to kill him for it, Chris. You know that. It's a lot. And it's crazy to see him still doing it at this high level.
1:33:58But I do expect it because I know what it looks like. I know what the training looks like. I know what the diet looks like. I know the rest and all that hyper bear. It's it's very time consuming, but if anybody's gonna do it he's gonna do it and What the series is the series each game takes a personality of his own um, he's somebody i'm not worried about i'm sure houston is feeling really good going back home, but um It's been a great series to watch how do you true?
1:34:27Pat McAfee:Okay, so whenever you try to piece together like for me how should I view these games? Because you said each game takes on a life of its own. And we don't have to talk about just the Lakers-Rocket series. Let's talk about me trying to find a crown, okay, at one point picking a game. I'm just trying to find one crown on DraftKings. I got L after L after L after L. LeBron, Austin Reeves is back. He's certainly going to get a double-double. No questions asked. Lakers are going to win. Yeah, right, seven assists or something like that. What the hell happened, LeBron? I thought we were feeding. Like, that's what happened.
1:34:59Pat McAfee:I have not had a quarter. I don't even understand all this stuff, Pat. Well, good. Just tell me this. What do I need to look at? How the star players are feeling? Do I need to look at matchups? Do I look at how coaches go against each other? Like, what do you think is the best way to decipher which team will probably end up being the ones that move on after a seven-game series? Because it can't just be a one-night thing, obviously. It has to be a seven-game in total. You have to show up, show up. What should I be looking at as I try to figure out who's going to win these series? Man, you're always trying to look at where they're playing at.
1:35:30right to see obviously home home court matters depending on what the team is um i don't know it's it's funny even in this laker series it was interesting to see austin reeds come back right to see who's playing obviously the rockets i'm not sure if kd's playing or not but everyone gets used to playing a certain way and then you find out somebody's coming back into the lineup or whatnot all that stuff is tricky so you gotta almost wait and see who's playing and where they're playing at.
1:35:58Pat McAfee:Okay. All right, that's what we'll do. We'll just wait and see. That's going to help me, Chris, okay? You say you don't understand it all. I know you don't understand it, so I'm going to give you a pass. Just know you didn't help me at all right there. Okay, tell me this. Tell me this, Pat. What would you do? Tell me what you do, and I'll tell you. LeBron James. LeBron James won the first three games. I thought game four, early, looked like they were probably not going to win that game. Missed shots. Didn't look like LeBron was deciding to go ahead and do it. I feel like it was, hey, let's get to game five.
1:36:29Pat McAfee:If the boys steal it, let's go ahead and steal it. Get back home. Yeah, let's get to game five from LeBron early. That's what I saw. So I saw Austin Reeves coming back. I'm like, hold on now. Austin Reeves can definitely play Robin here. This ain't a Batman-Robin issue, which they've said LeBron has had in the past, you know, with other people he can't play with, can't do this, two-balled on him. It's like, Austin Reeves will be able to do that. So my mind immediately went, Lakers by 30, Okay. LeBron's definitely dealing to Reeves. Okay. Reeves definitely going crazy as well. And you know what?
1:37:03Pat McAfee:Bronny over six and a half points too. Why not? It just might get a little loose. Might get a little loose at the end. That's what I'm thinking. Listen, this is how we used to sort of look at the whole series as a whole. Okay. Right. It's a seven game series. You got to win the four games. Right. Used to say your stars, if you got two big stars, your stars are both win you a game. Right. So say you got a Batman and a Robin. One of the stars will both win you a game in the playoffs. Then your bench, right? Just because your bench, the energy of your bench, your bench should be able to come in and get you one win.
1:37:35And then hopefully your coach can get you one win, right? And your coach gets you a win by substitutions or what you laughing at, man?
1:37:43Pat McAfee:No, that's just incredible. That's interesting. Because now I'm going to start looking at these series and say, all right, both the stars got a win. Okay, it looked like that was the bench. What's coach going on? I'm like, this coach a little bit more. Because a coach can actually, like, make a substitution, switch something in the starting lineup, you know, call a big play or something like that, that can sometimes affect the outcome of the game. Okay, you just gave me an answer. That first one, you didn't give me an answer. That one, you gave me an answer. Now, I need to know how the hell something like last night happens.
1:38:12Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Chris, I think last night was the biggest playoff loss in the history of the NBA. It was 51 points. It was ridiculous between the Knicks. That's 51? Yeah, 51. Wow. That's the biggest ever? Yeah, I believe that was the biggest ever. Have you ever seen anything like that when you're watching it? Absolutely not. Never. Never seen anything like it. 51 has to be the fifth. What's next, fellas? What are we going to talk about next? 51. How do you lose by 50 in the playoffs? In an elimination game. At home. In front of everybody. Yeah, I got that. That's right. They were trying to do that.
1:38:48Pat McAfee:Down 30. We're getting bad. I'm trying to do that. What's next, Pat? What are we talking about next? Okay, let's... I would like to correct some things that are wrong, because obviously we're doing journalism. Turns out 51-point differential is not the largest in the history of playoffs. Really? Oh! Yeah, it turns out it's not. What is? No way. 51's a lot of points. I know. You think 52, maybe? Yeah, 55 at most. If it's not 51, it has to be 52. Alright, fellas, that's enough. That's enough. Alright, so... 56. No, it's not 56. 57. What? Hey, Pat. Is my mic not working? 58. I said I got this. 58 points.
1:39:28Pat McAfee:Who lost by 58 points? Oh, that's a tough night. Yeah, it's a tough everything. So let's talk about it. Let's do it. Last night here at my house, like I'm watching the game with my family, my wife, everybody, and a bunch of my closest friends and my homies, they know every time a game gets out of hand like that, I'd be like, get him. Yeah. Get him.
1:39:582009, New Orleans. 2009, New Orleans. I was playing for the Hornets, New Orleans Hornets, and we lost to the Denver Nuggets by 58 points. Worst playoff. Yeah.
1:40:10Pat McAfee:58. Last night you had a chance. It felt like at one point it was up to 60, I think. There was a 71-16 run in the middle of that game, a 39-4 run at the end of the first quarter into the second quarter. You potentially were getting moved out of the record books. That 2009 58-point loss was going to be nothing to maybe 60-70-point loss as the bucket was super small. So does the bucket get smaller whenever you're getting your ass? But like on those terrible nights, what is it? Actually, what is it for teams? They just can't shoot. They can't shoot. I'm going to bring it up. Oh, 21-63. Oh, my God.
1:40:47Pat McAfee:God, 63 points? This looks like one of those high school games, you know, where you turn on and it's like one team has five guys going and then the other team. I got to go find the footage for him. B. Scott, shout out to Byron Scott, who was my coach. I remember I used to play the whole first quarter, the whole third quarter. And I remember we was down. I was going into the fourth. And I was like, man, coach, let me start the fourth and see if we can do something. And what did it say? We lost the fourth quarter by what? 20, I think. I don't think I played the fourth, the whole fourth, but it didn't matter.
1:41:19We was already getting a half-book. Wouldn't have been smart for you.
1:41:24Pat McAfee:Okay, tell me a little bit about how long seasons are and how you have to show up. 21 years in the NBA is insane, especially with how long the seasons are. When a night's going bad, obviously if you play for 21 years, you don't have many bad nights. Do you know in warm-ups, do you know like the night before, is there droughts that people have? Like what is kind of the NBA experience? Derek White's going through it right now with the Boston Celtics where he just can't, he can't make a shot, basically. Yeah, so does that happen during the season? How do you get out of it? What is kind of the world?
1:41:54A lot of times people think just go to the gym, just get more shots up. It's always nice if you got good teammates or whatnot that can just stay in your ear. I think one of the things that I try to do throughout my career too was, especially during the playoffs, stay off social media. Stay off social media. And you almost got to tell your family too, like because you don't want to get too high you don't want to get too low so when you're struggling like that you just gotta you gotta try to find it and sometimes it's playing defense a little bit better or maybe getting you an easy bucket or um i need to check and see if like when i would play with certain guys that maybe are straight scores and say there was a tech or a defensive three seconds called or something like when i played with devon booker if he if he wasn't scoring early book go shoot a free throw right even though i'm a great free throw shooter and I shot most of the techs my whole career, I'd be like, yo, go get you a free throw.
1:42:48Just see the ball go through the hole, right? Just see the ball go through the net. And so sometimes that can help you. And it just take one game. Like, tell you, Mikel Bridges has been sort of struggling a little bit in this Atlanta Hawks series. And even though the score was what it was, I pay attention to every detail. Mikel went on like a 7-0 run in like the third quarter. Yeah, the game was out of hand already, but it's still like we all work off confidence. So to see McHale make a few shots, maybe that'll help him going into the next series.
1:43:19Pat McAfee:McHale had 24 points. I think that'd be a great night to kind of get back on track if you had to. We saw that with Tyrese last year. Tyrese was shooting at a massive bucket there for a while. Then he got cold. Then he got cold and Spicy P kind of picked up for him. That's when you need your teammates to kind of do their thing. Obviously the Knicks have that happening right now. And I'll tell you, the Hawks team geez louise good season good run what what did you do the day after i guess this would be if you're messaging uh to the hawks after losing the second worst in the history of the nba plus was brown a long time a long time flint tropics right we're having oh yeah they never lost that much yeah never ask the question man what'd you say how should the hawks be moving on here that's pretty demoralizing end of the season that is a tough way to end the season very publicly it is tough but they had a great season look at where they came from and a huge shout out to cj mccullum nick nikhil all them guys like the thing is that they had trades during the season and them guys still believed and they kept hooping one of the things i'll tell you i learned early in my career that 2007 2008 playoff series where we beat dallas in the first round and we lost game seven to the San Antonio Spurs.
1:44:36That was one of the best teams I'd ever been on, 07, 08, New Orleans. And that was my very first playoff series I'd ever played in. One of the biggest things I learned looking at that bench, obviously, young, game one, we might have won by 30 against San Antonio. Game two, I don't know what we won by. But looking at the bench at TD, Tony Parker, and Ginobili and all them guys, they weren't phased. And that's what I learned throughout my career. or one. Whether you lose by one or whether you lose by 30, it don't matter.
1:45:06Pat McAfee:58. Yeah, hey, hey. Look, and that wasn't even a closeout game. Okay. I don't think that was a closeout game we lost. So for Atlanta losing that bet, either way, your season over. You lose by one, you lose by... Agreed. I view that for golf, you know. That's kind of how I hit the golf course and just kind of hit the ball. It's either going to be on the green or it's not. You know, so you might as well swing as hard as you possibly can. You're either going to get a bogey or a quadruple. Yeah. You know, it's all the same. You might as well. Yeah, it's all the same. Yeah, 1 point, 10 points, 51 points, 58 points.
1:45:41Pat McAfee:It's all the same. All the same. It's an L. Let's move on to the next night. They do have a lot of that. You've obviously, you mentioned the San Antonio Spurs and learning from there. You got a chance to be a part of their organization, obviously. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Chris, obviously, Vassal and Castle and Darren Fox and Wembe, you know all the boys from being in there. Avi, you were the veteran in there, but how do you think the locker room is now with Wemby? Do you think it is Wemby and his voice in there with all these younger guys? And they were 4-1 against OKC this year. Do you think they have a chance to win the West?
1:46:10Man, they definitely got a chance. They definitely got a chance. I love the youth that they brought in there and Dylan Harper and all them guys. Stephon Castle was my rook last year, but he is like a grown man already. But I got to say something about KJ, Keldon Johnson. and winning six man of the year. I mean, me coming to the team last year and, you know, him actually, you know, let me wear number three and getting a chance to be in the locker room with them. And Vic and Harrison, shout out to Harrison too, Harrison Barnes, who one of my favorite teammates, only played with him for one year.
1:46:45But that team is special. Mitch doing a hell of a job with them.
1:46:48Pat McAfee:Tell me about Wemby, please, because it feels like MVP, certainly possibility this year. Definitely all of them are available in the future for him. Defense aside, he's crazy. He's meeting with Kevin Garnett in the offseason, becoming a dog. He's with Monks. He's doing that. He's playing chess against randoms in Paris, I believe. Can you tell me about Wemby, and how do you feel about his makeup to be the face of the league if he continues to do what he's doing, especially at 7 '10", whatever it is? 1-1. I mean that when I say it. 1-1. Vic is not only a competitor. He's one of the smartest, kindest people.
1:47:26He loved to hoop. You know, he loves to play basketball. Like in a locker room that changed, obviously, over my career where everybody's for the most part on their phones doing all these different things. Man, Vic, Vic come into the training room with a book. But he's the ultimate competitor. He's always trying to learn something new. Whether it's us playing ping pong. him we played against the Knicks last year on Christmas Day that next morning I woke up and I seen it went viral he woke up the next morning was at the park playing people in chess yeah yeah yeah he's just he's different in the best way possible yeah and he's also what uh scary as hell
1:48:10Pat McAfee:they put a photo out of you guys from media day obviously and we know with AI these days and everything that is possible we can't trust anything but from my understanding with how tall he is not only in this photo which he looks so tall in this yeah that's crazy so i've been told that you had to change the way you play offense with him because you have no idea where he is because his arms could literally be anywhere within the paint at any moment how much has he changed the game you said he's one of one how much is that a differentiator of basketball as a whole maybe playing against him going forward?
1:48:47Yeah, he, obviously, I like to steal the basketball, right? Somebody drives to the lane, I try to steal it. Vic tapped me on the shoulder and said, leave him alone. He told me to leave him alone. Let him go. Let him go. Because he's going to block it. I had to get used to that. Because I have a knack for stealing the ball. Anytime somebody drives, let me get, Vic would be like, no, stop. Stop fouling, doing whatever. I'm a block the shot and even get a chance to play against him too. And it's fun to talk to other guards about it. Cause you usually get a big man switched on the perimeter. You trying to figure out what kind of side step you're going to do.
1:49:25He going to block it anyway. So he changed the trajectory of everything. But being in that locker room was, was one of the funnest things in my career. Um, just to get it to be around him. Right. Cause what I even know one teammate said it, I messed up his playing time, but that's neither here nor there.
1:49:45Pat McAfee:Oh, I didn't know that. I love to hear that. It sounds like your name does get tossed into a lot of those conversations and we'll certainly die in those over the next couple of weeks. We'll certainly... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nice to sort of be done playing and let's talk about it. Okay, let's talk about the meme you put up where you went to somebody's funeral just to make sure that motherfucker was dead. Can we talk about that then if you would like to talk about whatever? Let's do that. This is from... I was playing cards with my family, man. And we was playing. Playing boot racing. We was playing all that.
1:50:15And I won the card game. That was a timing thing. It was a Ben Stiller. We got it. Yeah. We played OMS every night with my family. You know what I mean? So got them. It was over for them.
1:50:28Pat McAfee:Okay. So what was the game you played? What was the game you played with the family? Oh, OMS. We played every night. 11 cards. You know what I mean? You got six rounds. I'll teach you. It's a fun game. Okay. So you won all six rounds. and you just felt obligated to go to your Instagram story and just be like, hey, look at my shit. Yep. That's what you did. That was from a card game. Elite competitor. Yeah. That's the difference right there. The Clippers were playing in a play-in or play-out of the season game. Maybe. That night? That exact time, yeah. He was distracting himself with his family, though, playing a card game called Umps.
1:51:06Umps. O-N-Z. Umps. Umps. Umps. Umps. Yeah, yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go.
1:51:13Pat McAfee:Okay. Okay, so, man, because we all – Got a lot of time to be at home with my family. Yeah, interesting time to play oomph and have an immediate reaction to that, because we immediately saw it and were like, wow. Whole internet. Kind of dancing on grave, actually, of what just happened, especially because you played there. You live in L.A., do the whole thing, you know? Yeah, I live here.
1:51:39Pat McAfee:Are you the best oomph player? You think that you've ever been around or is the family? Absolutely. My mom liked to think differently. Oh, so that was for your mom mostly, that meme. Yeah, my mom be talking crazy when we play Oomps. So you said, let me go to my IG story. My mom's going to look at this. I know that. You know what, Pat? You know what, Pat? You know who my parents play Oomps with just about every night? It's Coach Jim Caldwell and his wife. How's Coach Caldwell at Oomps? I assume pretty good. Yeah, I ain't played with Coach Caldwell in a while. But our house back home in North Carolina is literally, my parents live here.
1:52:15Coach Caldwell, they live literally across the street. And my parents, they play just about every night.
1:52:19Pat McAfee:Okay, if you were to beat Jim Caldwell, what meme would you put on your IG story? And do you do that for every game or just some nights? Some nights, depends on what it is. When it's really on. What's going on. Okay, all right, just make it short. Coach Caldwell, I'll probably just text it to him. Okay, all right, well, I would like to let you know. I appreciate the way you handled this. I genuinely appreciate the way you handle this. You live in Los Angeles. Obviously, a lot of stories about you and the Los Angeles teams. AJ actually has a question for you about the coach that you said is a great coach going into a must.
1:52:52Pat McAfee:Feels like a must win, but not there just yet. Yeah, Chris, you think JJ and the boys are going to close this thing out tonight? And how do they how do you adjust to, like you say, Austin Reeves coming back and different kind of responsibilities for certain players? yeah uh they're going into houston and houston gotta be feeling good about themselves right they're going back home because the hardest one to win is the one in la uh i'm sure they're gonna look at film see what they can they can do better uh for houston i think watching the end of that game they were most focusing on not giving the game away again right that's the hardest thing to do in a playoff series too obviously they feel like they gave one away right so now you you sitting there like, man, this series should be, we should have three wins already or whatnot.
1:53:36So I think it's going to be interesting to see their adjustments to see what they do and how they combat Houston.
1:53:44Pat McAfee:I liked that you didn't completely crack under pressure there whenever you saw the countdown clock. I thought you handled that well. You're a point guard, obviously, 21 years in the NBA. A great coach, obviously, to the AAU world. So you can handle pressure, especially whenever The clock's down. Seven, six. Have a great weekend. We hope you win all your bets. We'll see you on Monday. Shh. Here. Cash. See that? Got it off there. All right. We're still live, CP. We are still live digitally. YouTube, ESPN +, Disney +, TikTok Live, and X. And what I want to say is thank you so much for joining us, man.
1:54:17Pat McAfee:We'll see you next week. I appreciate y 'all having me, man. Seriously. We're probably going to call you often. Got a lot of questions. I'm dead serious. Call me. We can talk about some stuff. All right, and maybe we get you into the Thunderdome at some point, too. So maybe – That might be in just a little bit too far, just a little too far. We'll send you a movie that you look like just now. I don't need any videos. I'm a field shooter. I'm a field shooter, okay? And I'm a streaky shooter, too. And I know you're seven-time first-team all-defense. I think – That is funny, by the way. That's seven and two.
1:54:50Got it. So we don't count the two. Got it.
1:54:54Pat McAfee:Sometimes, sometimes. Don't worry about the other 11. Mostly. Yeah, I'm worried about the other 11 if you just were mailing it in on the defense. They don't like to get a guard. And because I – let me tell you straight up. This is how me and Kawhi and my favorite, like, basketball players that I gravitate towards, and probably because I'm older, when I was, like, taught the game of basketball, it was offense and defense. Right? It was offense and defense. So I, for the way that God wanted to talk junk, whatever, I could go score 30 points on you and I could guard you. On me. So all that 3 and D stuff like that, I feel like that's where I always tried to separate myself and be like, I'll guard you on this end and then you come guard me on that end.
1:55:42But for most of my career, they would always put other guys on me to guard me.
1:55:46Pat McAfee:At this stage, can you still do it or you think you were coming here, I potentially put up 35, 60, maybe? You wouldn't have a chance. Don't get it twisted now. Don't, don't, don't. I got new shoes on. They're Jordans. These are. Yeah, that ain't going to do nothing for you. But see, that's how it is like with Peyton Pritchard, right? So a lot of people who like hoop and probably play in like men's leagues and love basketball, they probably see like a Peyton Pritchard and they'd be like, man, how are fry is that? No, you won't. You won't. You will not do that. and even though I am quote unquote retired from the NBA do not get it twisted Pat you're the man I can't walk onto the field and kick kick nothing yeah but have you ever really done that in the past?
1:56:34Pat McAfee:I bet you could yeah that shit gonna be like it's gonna be like what's the movie
1:56:43Why I write Finkel and Ironhorn. Finkel and Ironhorn.
1:56:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, Pat Detector. Ace Ventura, yeah. Ace Ventura, laces were out. Yeah. That's on the long snapper now, actually. That movie changed a lot. Yeah. That movie changed the NFL. Now the long snapper's job is to get the laces out. So Dan Marino's not put in that situation ever again. That's right. Yeah, actually. What do you mean? I don't know that. What is you saying? Long snapper's job is to get the laces out. Like, hey, snap the ball. so whenever the holder catches it, the laces are somewhere that way. That's how they're being judged. So when they snap the ball, the ball doesn't spin? Spins the exact same amount of times every time.
1:57:20Pat McAfee:So their job is to spin it the exact same. So it's eight yards normally is the spot from where the ball is, and then it's eight yards and six inches for where their ball spin is to where the laces are forward. You're kind of just judging where their laces are, basically. And their job is that. I appreciate it. detail. Yeah, it sucks for them though, because I mean, that is so minuscule. That's how they're getting judged. They're getting cut because they don't do it. Like that is their job. Like, hey, fucking every time, every time. I'm going to tell you, most people wouldn't even think about this, but every time I shoot a basketball, because the basketball is made a certain way for the laces.
1:57:58So I'm that particular, even when I pass it. So when JJ Reddick would come off to shoot, I would pass it to guys so that the ball is right for the laces to shoot. Anytime I shoot the ball, no matter how I'm dribbling the ball, I would let the ball sort of just slide or fade in my hands to where the laces are right every single time.
1:58:19Pat McAfee:That's what I do, too. Yeah, every single time. I do, too. Every time I just find these laces. Find these laces. That's right. All right. Where are we going? Dress. Whoa. You don't know that I believe in you Let's see it Oh That's what I said Straight on That's higher than 10 feet too This is like MTV Jock Jams 10 was too short for us This is what an actual NBA ball looks like In my hands too prick That's what this is right here This is the actual size That was a balloon size ball Fuck All right, Chris. Thanks, dude. It's Chris Ball. See you next week. Yeah. Hey, Ray. Yes.
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2:00:24God, I had to make that one. It looked good, too. Shoot a small ball afterwards. Good luck. Small ball. Wemby. Let's shoot that small ball second. Oh, I'm sorry. You shoot the balloon ball first and then the regulation size second. Thank you. I shot the NBA ball second there.
2:00:38Pat McAfee:Everybody can see it with their eyes. We got a commemorative NBA ball right here. Whoa, whoa. That's a trophy. What do you think? It's just one ball that's NBA size? No. You think I'd have a bunch of gimmick size balls? True. Put it next to your head. You got a huge head then too. Boom. That's NBA size ball. Thank you. Wow. Good for you. I mean, I maybe missed my calling. Yeah. You're going to shoot that? You're going to make it? Got him up. This? Yeah, shoot it. No. You're up in the air right now. Jump stop pump fake. That was my high school basketball career. Trust me. And then elbow sternum.
2:01:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, I've seen you play before. Even though I haven't seen you play, I've seen you play before. Yeah, style. Yeah, you and AQ. Wrestlers. I wish you and AQ Shipley would have ran into each other in high school basketball. People from other towns were going to watch AQ play. If I was on AQ's team as a basketball player, that would have been a lot of fun. Yeah, but you playing against him would have been, for me, as somebody watching, more fun. I think that would have been great. Hard tongue off the bench. We were with Kuhn, you know, for that entire draft night. And it was hard not to just the entire time look at the size of his skull and then just realize that you two just battering rammed each other for years and years because neither of you would say to the other, hey, we don't have to do this on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.
2:01:55Pat McAfee:We could kind of just shoulder each other and then kill our opponent because neither of you wanted to look weak to each other. One from Pennsylvania, one from Ohio. Massive heads on both of them. There was never going to be a – even though they're best friends. That's fucking crazy to me that that is how stubborn you two are in your entire thing. But I feel like it's a similar situation. Wasn't Coon like Shippensburg? Yeah. So he's always got the chip. Had to have a chip. Yeah. Coon's a dog. Not that you're not, AJ. And I almost said this earlier, but I didn't want to start any wars online. Ohio and Pennsylvania more.
2:02:32Sympatico. More what? Than they've been in the past. They've always been very, very similar, which makes them hate each other.
2:02:39Pat McAfee:But I'm saying similar, but now is there maybe a. I hope not. It does feel like outside of PA and Ohio, though, it has gone to the opposite of PA and Ohio. so much to the point where they're like, hey, it's kind of us two versus the world all of a sudden. Yeah, I think there is. I think it's more of a positive just from my – there was an A.J. Hawk chant in Pittsburgh. Well, I mean, that's duty. That's the thing to show. You have cultivated that over the years, no question. But I think there is definitely a healthy respect between, like, the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Ohio people. There's a lot of Ohio State fans in Pittsburgh.
2:03:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I don't think there always has been a healthy respect, though, is what I'm saying. I don't think it was always, like, a respect thing back in the day. I think it was Fuck you Between like Pittsburgh And Cleveland no But between the two states I think there was Maybe I was misreaded then Because every guy I met From Ohio I just told him They were the worst Like Big 33 Was respecting Yeah I wasn't invited Thanks Tyler Palco Fucking love Tyler Palco So good Legend He had a long NFL career He did And also Long beautiful hair Yeah Wait did we see him recently Is he coaching football Is he coaching somewhere Penn State West A Somewhere No he was in His dad was at Penn State.
2:03:52Pat McAfee:Pitt Notre Dame I saw him at. He's at Pitt Notre Dame. That's what it was. He talked to the team before. A lot of Pittsburgh stuff here. There's been a lot of Pittsburgh stuff. Did you hear about Connor McDavid joining the Pittsburgh Penguins? I did see some mock-ups. I wasn't sure if he already was wearing the full gear or what, but yeah. I saw he looks pretty good. There's going to be so many people mad that this is just what I'm doing, but I'm just going to do it until I'm told that it's not happening. Is it very possible? Is it a possibility though? It could happen? Anything's possible. No, actually they did say the only team he wanted to go to is the Columbus Blue Jackets.
2:04:26Pat McAfee:Okay, so there we go. Anything's possible. He said maybe whenever he said what he said, how he said it, that's sports daily media in a nutshell. People in Edmonton saying this fucking clown. It's like, hey, I'm sorry about it. Fuck this guy, buddy. Get him out. I think we're going to have a conversation with somebody that is potentially boots on the ground that a place in which we will certainly want to hear from we kind of powered through the conversation at the end of the hour 100 on us chris paul just kind of in his bag there kind of mcdavid and pittsburgh would actually make sense and it would be sweet yeah mcdavid would be incredible as a pittsburgh penguin now do we know if it's possible or if anybody's thinking about it outside of this thunderdome absolutely not and uh oh yeah that is certainly you know the good thing about having a microphone that reaches as many people as it does on a daily basis.
2:05:17Pat McAfee:You just say words. Just make calls. Just kind of make moves. Hey, why don't you go ahead and fucking just pick up your whole family from Edmonton, move right over there to Pittsburgh. You're going to love it. I think even people in Edmonton would be like, you know what? Honestly, we want McDavid to win and he's never going to do it here. Now, Flyers are saying, why not us? Yeah. You're not playing for the Flyers. There's few historic teams that McDavid would go to. There's five teams he'd probably go to. Golden Knights. Not Vegas. Pittsburgh. Boston. I would say actually Detroit would be in the convo legitimately because they're a storied franchise.
2:05:57Okay. Probably throw Florida in there. He's not going to Florida. I could see Tampa Bay.
2:06:04Pat McAfee:What if they just dropped him right in the middle of New York? That would make the Rangers. McJesus would not play in New York. Zero chance. Okay. Why? What about L.A.? Like Wayno did. He hates L.A. Big rivalry there with Hamilton. They wouldn't trade him there. But San Jose. No Sharks. Bruins are actually poised to make a run at him. Because we have the Maple Leafs pick. So that's like a sixth or seventh overall pick this year. We have our own pick. And then we have the next couple years. And then we have a bunch of good young players. As we try to connect with a legendary Southern man who is currently live from the Kentucky Derby, I think we got to do some weekly recap things that are good and things that are not so great.
2:06:48Pat McAfee:Let's start with, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for five things that aren't asked. That's right, five things that aren't asked. This is a big one here, AJ. Welcome to a new Friday tradition. Now, you ask yourself, how was that graphic made? Well, then you say, well, in your phone, there lies something that is smarter than everybody that exists in AI. Then you team that with a human in DeBone, I guess is what we're calling it. And all of a sudden, you get a brand new segment called Five Things That Aren't Asked that is actually sustainable. This will be a celebration of five things that we've seen from the last week that we think are definitely not asked.
2:07:26Pat McAfee:We'll scan the entire globe, AJ. It won't just be from America. If it's happening anywhere, we will hit the top five that we love. Let's start with number five, shall we? What a headline here. You're going to really enjoy this one. A diploma? Driver's license, even lower. A driver's license and a Bundesliga record. Did you hear about this? Do you know about Mathis Albert? 16-year-old American makes his debut in the Bundesliga for Dortmund. Now, he's 16 years, 11 months from South Carolina, came up through the LA Galaxy Academy. me. He debuted this past week for Dortmund, who is the most American Bundesliga team, maybe the most American European.
2:08:08Pat McAfee:They've had seven Americans on their team in Dortmund. They are at every single event that happens in the United States of America telling people about the Bundesliga and about Dortmund. They very much want America to like their team. I would like to let them know I do. I appreciate them. They got 16 year olds playing for him over there. He is the Youngest in the history of the Bundesliga, youngest American. He breaks Gio Reyna's record, who broke Christian Pulisic's record. All of them happening at Dortmund. So 16-year-old debuts, I think that's incredible news, AJ. And that's definitely not ass over there, or as they would say, gutten ass.
2:08:42Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Would this be like a 16-year-old playing in the NFL? Would it be a similar situation? I think this would be like a 19-year-old. Yeah. Or a 16-year-old in the NBA. Yeah, 16-year-old in the NBA. Yeah, that's possible. Okay. I guess would be what it would be. And we just talked to a 16-year-old who's 6 '3", 230. You're probably a good boy. Who might be able to get a pass off or maybe a first down if he needed it. I just need this guy, Mathis, Albert is his name, to be on Team USA going to the World Cup. I was going to say it certainly is an ass that he's playing in the Bundesliga, but we have the World Cup coming up in a couple months, and I've never heard of this guy before.
2:09:17So why the hell is that happening?
2:09:19Pat McAfee:There's another young buck named Kevin. He's playing for the Philadelphia Union, I believe. He's 16 years old as well. There might be a next generation of Americans that are ready to take the world by storm. Because what we saw in a couple of the scrimmages leading up to the World Cup here, USA might be ass here. We might be big-time ass cheeks. We might not be on the aren't ass list. I thought they were good. I thought they were good last time we watched. Pontius is laying in the weeds, bringing everyone in close. Pontius' poop is laying in the weeds. I would love to put Pontius' team on the aren't ass list.
2:09:47Pat McAfee:But last time we've seen them, very ass. Let's go to the number four thing that happened this week that is certainly not ass. Oh, yeah, the block is hot. The block is 10 majors hot. What? Yeah. Yeah, Blocko has qualified for the PGA Championship as he finished in the top 10 of this particular tournament. I guess he was sitting at 50th coming out of Saturday. Makes a run for it, including this absurd touch of class from the fairway by Blocky, a man who's hit a hole-in-one in a PGA tournament before. Or is it PGA professional, just a pro at a local course? I'm running that thing down the right side.
2:10:27Pat McAfee:No way. Wow. No way. Yeah, that's the block difference. And the block is certainly hot as he qualifies for the PGA championship. He's listening to Enter Sandman with a guy who's super jacked up. Maybe that's his boy. I'm not 100 % sure as they're driving around. Just qualify for your 10th major. Bam. Bam. He's vibing. Bam. Bam.
2:11:06Pat McAfee:We're happy for old Blocky, aren't we? Yeah. He mentioned Tiger. Tiger or Caddy? What's that? He's talking to Caddy for him, possibly. Maybe Tiger. Well, that's what I was thinking. And maybe he becomes the next Tiger. Maybe they're calling him Mikey, Tiger, Block. and maybe he puts on his son, Day Red, at the PGA Championship. Mark Schlaubach, golf expert for ESPN, told us yesterday, ain't going to qualify, but it's certainly a fun story. Ty, he sent a message to you whenever you said, did the haters whatever keep hating? He was talking to you, sir. Yeah, he might have been, but I can't – oh, yeah, that's right.
2:11:38I was the one who sent in that video of Blocky playing that absolutely beautiful shot there. And, you know, as I've been kind of thinking about it, listen, I put my beef with Blocky down a couple weeks ago. maybe I'm just late to the party. Everyone else has been invited to the block party. They love this guy. I don't know if my invite got lost in the mail, what's going on. I will be picking Blocky in our golf league here to win the PGA Championship. You can officially call me a big Blocky guy. You can do it. A blockhead? I'm a blockhead. I'm a big-time blockhead. Wow. Now. That rocks. Now. You like block.
2:12:14I would say. Rock the block. Oh, rock the block with Ty Schmidt. Exactly. They rock the block. If he doesn't make the cut, though, I'm going to have to give him hell. I'm going to have to. I'm hoping he wins the whole thing. But boy, oh boy, if he shoots an 87 on Thursday.
2:12:31Pat McAfee:See, it doesn't feel like you're genuinely rocked. No, I am. I am. You know what? You can't actually see it. I'm in the back seat with him doing the Enter Sandman thing. I was, yeah, Bucky, woo! I'm right over his shoulder. You can't see, but I was there. So, yeah, I'm a blockhead. Simple as that. Aren't we all? I will remain as such because he's living a dream down here at 10 majors. Let's go to the number three thing that isn't us that happened this week. A cheeky tuck off the blade. Quinn Hughes, U.S. Olympic gold medalist. Brother Jack Hughes, legend sensation, off a star skate on purpose to score a goal.
2:13:06Pat McAfee:They go on to win 5-2 and knock the stars out. And Quinn Hughes is doing stuff that isn't ass, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, how often does this happen, actually, where guys are really aiming at dude skates and it's going in? I don't know. I know it's happening right here in front of our eyes right now. And I will certainly say the precision here. No, they will dump it into piles, I do believe. But to work out this perfectly, this is rare for it to work out this well, I feel like. Yeah, what a lane, too, directly to the skate. And then to be able to read the geometry of how his skate is kind of sitting there, for it to go up over the pad, certainly a thing of beauty.
2:13:42Pat McAfee:This guy deserves an assist and a goal. What a beautiful thing from Quinn Hughes, American sensation. Yeah, much different situation when in Canadians Lightning, Brandon Hagel was standing in front of the net, and Kucherov basically just sent it right off his chest for the game-winning goal. And Hagel, you know, you get that goal because it goes off his body. It wasn't even a specific skate. I like Mortis. I like missing the second free throw or the third free throw. I like a little gamesmanship. I like what Quinn Hughes is doing. Thank you for doing that for the United States of America. Let's go to the number two thing that is definitely not ass of the week.
2:14:16Pat McAfee:Football time. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 805 ,000. Crazy. Cleveland now 160 ,000, one of the first big crowds. It was much different then. It was. Oh, people didn't exist? Well. Come on. We're not talking about people. We're talking about how it's celebrated, knowing what to do, where to go. The NFL providing enough space for enough people to kind of come through there. Cleveland might be getting it back. Minnesota might be getting the draft. They're saying odds-on favored for that around the U.S. Bank Stadium. But Pittsburgh had 805 ,000. A lot of dreams came true. Loved every moment of it, A.J.
2:14:54Pat McAfee:Hawk. What a celebration of ball that was. Yeah, it was absolutely perfect. And I think nobody was really sure how it was going to go before. The Wednesday we went in there and, you know, you hear there are signs of people telling you, do not come down to this. It's going to be too crowded. They can't figure it out. But I tell you what, logistics were not an issue. I feel like the people came and weather was perfect and it went off without a hitch. I appreciate the fact that there was PennDOT signs. Okay, that's the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation. And the way into the city is through the parkway.
2:15:24Pat McAfee:PennDOT, obviously, are the keepers of the parkway and the turnpike and everything else. Signs on the side of the road as if it was Armageddon. Hey, don't be an asshole. No. Do not come downtown. Okay? And if you are, leave your cars at home. you walk downtown if you're gonna come but also don't come then you got local news stations obviously reading the vibes of the people and just reporting what people are saying i ain't going down here 800 bucks for a fucking hotel room in pittsburgh pennsylvania okay yeah i'm not going down how am i getting out of there is there enough bathrooms where am i pissing at what am i doing there was enough i'm standing there what like what is this why the fuck would I ever take any time out of my life to go stand in a parking lot to watch Roger Goodell read a cart.
2:16:11Pat McAfee:Actual reports. Yeah. That could potentially create a narrative amongst many answers who go, yes, actually, speaking for me. Yes, speaking for me. And if there was rain on the first night, I think all those would have won. But instead, the best weather may be in the history of Pittsburgh for that particular part of the year. and the weather was perfect. It was a festival. They viewed it like Yinsrachella is how people did. Now, there's a lot of restaurants that are saying, we were gearing up for a lot of out-of-towners to come in and everything like that. I think a lot of out-of-towners did come, but they just went right into the NFL draft compound, which is 4 million square feet.
2:16:50Pat McAfee:There was obviously food in there, drinks in there, everything was in there. It was a hell of a festival of football, I think, and the NFL knows what they have. And the fact that it's able to be now the cold-weather Super Bowls for people is special. The NFL continues to crush it, AJ, and Pittsburgh was perfect for it. Yeah, Pittsburgh was perfect. I remember I was walking out, leaving on Friday. There was just a random big park right there, and it was set up like a circus. There were so many people and food trucks. That's a point park. Yeah, whatever it was, the whole town was ready. It was great.
2:17:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, we had fun down there. We had fun. Hopefully Pittsburgh will get it again. Everybody's saying will, right? It should. Yeah, they will. So just like Super Bowls, do you think they'll get draft cities that become like regular hosts of it? because you kind of know what it is and then sprinkle in some new ones whenever you get it? I mean, you would think because they've already done all the legwork for a couple of these cities and they've seen, okay, this is a success. Like, we can go back here. We can do the exact same thing. You would think, yeah, they would want to do like a six - or seven-year rotating basis because that's pretty much what the Super Bowl is.
2:17:50It's not like the Super Bowl is really going to a new city every single year. It's the same handful or so.
2:17:55Pat McAfee:A lot of things said about Minnesota. Timberwolves just knocked out the Nuggets. Wild just knocked out the Stars, and they are potentially going to be the home of the draft. So a lot of good news coming out of Minnesota from the sports world. I believe it's the first time ever the Minnesota Wild and the Minnesota Timberwolves are in the second round of the playoffs at the same time. I saw A-Rod celebrating pretty good. The number one thing that isn't asked that happened this week that we love, Coach Nick Saban getting in the pocket. Hell yeah. You know, there was a post that said, who has the best swing out here?
2:18:27Pat McAfee:And Coach Saban was first because he's obviously the legend. and that ball looks like it goes directly right. Okay. People saw this one swing. They didn't know that he was playing a massive draw. Look at the dogleg left. He's trying to run that thing right out of the fairway. And then he had said, you know, he shot an 83 at Augusta, and he shot his age twice, which would be 73. I think he said that a couple weeks ago. So there were some people that were questioning if Nick Saban really did any of that. Let's take you to 18, okay? Here's Nick Saban from what? 200 feet? Don't worry about it. Looks like it.
2:18:56Pat McAfee:The whole world's watching. What's Coach Saban do? Drano! Coach Saban's got the touch. Coach Saban's got the iron game. Let's not just be judging him off of one drive off a tee, which he was trying to take that thing up over an oak around the bend to get to the hole. So, Coach Saban shoots whatever the hell Coach Saban says he shoots, and I'm done with the slander, and I love the fact that he got a chance to prove he's great at golf, AJ Hawk. Yeah, he did. His swing does look beautiful. I felt like Coach Golden's swing looks pretty powerful as well. I know we went through that the other day with Schlaubach.
2:19:28I believe you guys got to watch that video, but I think Saban's swing is great. Pete Golding, I mean, Kirby's got some power as well. DeBoer, add a little stiff on the turn. There's just one that sticks out. We know. Right here. Boom.
2:19:43Pat McAfee:Guys, legs have never seen sun. Golding's got a pretty good little swing, though. Yeah. Tommy, tempo town, Tuberville. So Nick Saban hit a perfect one. Kirby Smart hit a massive slice. I think we know that. Kalen DeBoer just took this thing down the left side pretty good. probably into the trees. Steve Pearl, no, no, he is doing great. Nato hasn't seen the sun, has never golfed. Pete Golding, former baseball player, obviously bombing it. And then Tommy Tuberville, he's a politician. He knows his way around it. Playing a lot of golf. And that was five things that weren't ass. Hell yeah. You know Steve's dad.
2:20:13Pat McAfee:We had an honorable mention of something that is not ass and certainly needs to be chatted about. I don't know if you've seen this. This man's name is Angel Alvarado. He's a Colombian lad who's 19 years old. He's juggling three Rubik's Cubes. I don't want to insult anybody's intelligence, but yes, that is what he is doing. He is juggling three Rubik's Cubes, and he is solving the Rubik's Cubes while juggling. And you think to yourself, well, how is that possible? It's hard to figure out early because it's so many different colors. He quarter spins one at a time while he's juggling. Didn't misstep, no bobbles, no flubs.
2:20:49Pat McAfee:Four minutes and 29 or seven seconds. I forget what it is. Sorry, 32 seconds,.9. He gets them all done and juggles them the entire time for a new world record. I think that is not ass. I think that is the opposite of that. I had no idea humans could do this. Had anybody done this before? How do you figure out you can do this? And even when they slow it down, I don't think I fully understand his finger dexterity power to be able to quarter spin while catching it and finishing the spin. Just an absurd feat by a human. and I'm nothing short of impressed. Shout out to Angel Alvarado from Columbia breaking a new world record.
2:21:30Pat McAfee:And look at the catch of them at the end. So casual. Been here, done that. No problem. AJ, your thoughts on what's happening here right in front of your eyes, maybe for the first time? Yeah, it is the first time. This is kind of mind-blowing. I mean, my kids are in the phase where they, like young kids like to get Rubik's Cubes and try to figure them out really fast. I've never really messed around with them, but the fact you can juggle them. I'm a decent juggler as well, so this might be something I try to do. I can certainly juggle a three. Can you do the four as well or just three? Nah, just three.
2:21:57Pat McAfee:You know, four is actually just two, I guess, on one hand, potentially, is what I've learned from some people. But then you can obviously cross them if you'd like. I had a little bit of a juggling phase, too, just because it was a hilarious thing to do whenever we didn't have the internet on our phones and we were pretty bored back in the day. You youngs would never fucking understand us trying to pass time. Okay? I'm looking at you. Me? I'm looking at you, Bruce. No, no, no. We're not that old. Definitely da bone. Definitely da bone. Yeah, da bone. No, we're not that young. But think about Angel Alvarado finding out that a human can do this and then being like, oh, I'm actually the one that's supposed to be doing this.
2:22:31Pat McAfee:Incredible work. Congrats, Sam. New world record. And I would like to let people know, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah, bingo. Exactly. He'd be perfect. This is what I'm talking about. This is the shit we want. We would like to watch that live. We would like to be in real time with that right here. He just didn't see the tweet. So if you could do that, somebody needs to get to him. Maybe he does four of them. Columbia South Carolina He's war That's Mattis Albert He's the 16 year old from The Bundesliga Dortmund Which is our team I think Certainly my Bundesliga team of choice Dortmund? Yeah I mean we go all the way back to Marco Reus Abouya Messeth Isel I don't know if he ever played for them He did not Yeah, I didn't think so, but I know he played in the Bundesliga.
2:23:22Bundesliga the league? Yeah, it's the top German league. Sorry.
2:23:28Pat McAfee:Is that a league, AJ? Ty's just saying names of players? I'm a big Messer-Isser fan. Yeah. One of the best players of all time. What about Dortmund, though? No, I'm a big Dortmund guy, too. Sheamus, obviously. Sheamus, anytime you see Sheamus, he's got a Dortmund jersey on. Sheamus wore the tarp at TSC last year. He was with the Dortmund Lads. And he's drinking their ice-cold lager. We like the Dortmund people. Yeah, big time. They take care of us. They brought us several ice-cold beers at TST last year. Who do they have? Frickin' Hummels in the back? Robbie Hummels. Robbie Hummels, yeah. Before he played college basketball at Purdue, he played for Borussia Dortmund.
2:24:05Great broadcaster, too. Yeah. His name isn't Robbie Hummels, but his last name's definitely Hummels. It's Hummels. There it is.
2:24:13Pat McAfee:Okay. Go on, Dortmund. Go on, Lads. Go on, Lads. Robert Lewandowski was there for a while. They play all the Americans over there. I like them. I like them. And good colors. Wasn't Dortmund where they said, or someone, I don't know if it was Seamus, someone said, hey, those are my guys that are going to hook you up with beers. And we waited in line and said, yeah, that'll be$85. Yeah, and then AJ got stiffed with a$100 beer tap. It was hilarious. It was awesome. It was awesome. Classic Barucho runner. He said, what a good rib. Love these guys. What a good rib. I do remember that being talked about later.
2:24:42Pat McAfee:I was part of the later situation when it was being described. I think to me and then immediately to the Dortmund people. Yeah, it was great. Hey, you made this guy go get beers from you guys, 110 bucks or whatever. Yep. No, no, let us get you. Oh, yeah, Gumby said they brought schnitzels last year. All right, let's wrap up the week with, obviously, we have the things that aren't ass. Let's go to things that aren't ass. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get out of the railroad. Okay. It's time to hop aboard. Oh, no! train. Let's head to Turkish soccer, shall we? This is Balik's support.
2:25:20Pat McAfee:Amet Aiden. Amet Aiden. Long shot from the other side. Big bounce. Skip bounce. Off the back. Idiot. Goal! No! What an idiot that goalie is. What an absolute idiot. That's from the Turkish Soccer League. I mean, obviously, soccer has been providing us awesome things, including misjudging a absolute bomb from Ahmet Aydin. I mean, he hit that thing 70, 80 yards in the air. The goalie was so flustered. You know what? I'm about 90 yards out.
2:25:57Pat McAfee:Point. Oh, fuck me.
2:26:02Pat McAfee:Goal to stay in soccer, shall we? Let's head to La Liga 2, which is Spain. We've seen this a few times, but this is certainly worthy of an, oh, no. Goalie's sick of it. He's 35 years old. He said, I don't want to be doing this anymore. What's the deal? Ref said, yeah, you already did something today. That's a yellow. And that's a red. Get out of here. Well, if that's the case, let me go ahead and earn it. Andrada! Let me earn my red, shall we? He says, 35-year-old Argentinian man playing in La Liga 2. Esteban. A lot of pushing going on after that. He was banned for 13 games after this. Okay. There's five games left.
2:26:40Pat McAfee:He was on loan from La Liga, Mexico. that he's probably getting sent back to MX. Might get promoted. Hey, Gumby, will they be punishing him in La Liga MX for what he did in La Liga 2? Yeah, there's rumblings that that team does not want to take him back while he's suspended. What? Yeah, I mean, it's a hard thing to justify going back to the league, so they'll figure it out. I'm sure a 35-year-old goalkeeper, I'm sure they'll figure it out. Let's travel away from soccer, and let's head to gimmick football leagues. Nice. Let's head to the arena football league. The Sioux Bandits kicker. Dylan Carnes hits the worst documented professional field goal.
2:27:16Pat McAfee:Way or two, straight left into the stands, and boink! Right off a guy's forehead. Right off his forehead. Superman. He's concussed. Oh, no, he's not concussed. Obviously, he's just embarrassed in front of the lady. I try. I know the camera's on me. The light's got the best of me. The Sioux Bandits said, hey, don't you worry about it, bud. Our kicker sucks, but your life just got a little bit better. Here's the ball, and immediately upon taking it, what's up, Dad Joke? Oh! That was her first date, actually. Love that. Sue Bandit's bringing people together. Also putting balls to face, AJ. I mean, this is the first time.
2:27:50You can tell from here, there's no chance. Give me a close hand, buddy. Put your hands together, bud. Just protect your face.
2:27:56Pat McAfee:All right, let's go from the Arena Football League. Hey, listen, Dylan Carnes. Keep going, man, but also maybe not. Aim right. That is, it was clear. We don't know. Could have been a bad hold. It wasn't. But his steps, he was aiming, it felt like. I think he just needs to aim better because those are really tight steps. I don't know how he kicks that thing through the uprights at all. We don't know. Maybe the rules for that are that's what you're supposed to do. You're right. We don't know if there's a new Arena Football League rule where if you bonk a guy in the head, it's maybe worth four points.
2:28:29Pat McAfee:Maybe your fans can kind of become a part of the thing. Dylan Carnes, I can't wait to see you finish the season with a bunch of makes. Until then, this will be the biggest kick that we've ever heard. Let's go to another league that is still happening. the UFL. They got a big one last night. The Louisville Super Dupers started off the weekend for Rapoli. Columbus Aviators were supposed to have a Jim Trestle bobblehead night. Obviously, Ohio State legend over the Columbus Aviators. Turns out, they won't be here. Oh, no. They're not going to make it. If they're on one of Rapoli's horses, maybe they'd have an opportunity.
2:29:01Pat McAfee:Instead, there's some port somewhere, and they ain't making it. Jim Trestle, 5 ,000 of them, is in a box on a ship somewhere on Jim Trestle bobblehead night and I don't like it, Don. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's about as big of an... Because I know, if I know, you know, AJ talks glowingly about Jim Trestle all the time, you know how many Aviators fans are going to show up and they're going to realize, no fucking Jim Trestle bobbleheads tonight? Boom. Other way. Immediately. Fuck this place. They're going to lose fans? Fuck the Aviators. I'm out of here. No. This is why we took it back. Tough year for the Aviators.
2:29:34Pat McAfee:We didn't take it back. We have no take-backs with the U.S.M. Not everybody. and this is the exact reason, because stuff like this is what makes or breaks your freaking league, okay? You got Jim, Trestle, bobbleheads that are being promised, and they don't even make it through customs? That cannot happen, Rapoli. It can't happen! Good messaging here from Adam King in a sentence that wouldn't, would haven't made sense a year ago. Yeah, that's a typo. Kind of an oh-no in itself right there. Yeah, but on that note, Adam King's spitting that gospel because we could have never expected Jim Trestle aviator bobblehead night, 5 ,000 of them a year ago.
2:30:12Pat McAfee:No, couldn't have. And now that they're here, AJ, you're going to have to tell a little hawker and animal and all of them over there that they got no bobbleheads. And that's a big, oh, no. It's at the baseball always a giving oh, no train. Kansas City Royals gets hit in the dick, hits a guy in the dick here. Boom! EMT here to serve. Where'd that ball go? It disappeared. Let's see if we can tell who it hit. That guy. Right there. Oh, fuck. Right in the dong. Sits down. A lot of boys laughing at him. EMT certainly has the answers. I don't know if there is any answer. You wonder yourself what happened.
2:30:51Pat McAfee:There he is. On look. Boom. Right in the dong. Feel the grounder, lad. Carter Jensen is the one that hit the foul ball. EMT man is the one that got hit in the balls. Carter's been on the 0-0 before. he slept in, didn't make the game, and since that, he's been absolutely fucking raking baseball. Yeah, he can see the ball and just can he wake up? Ball to ball is here for Carter, and now can he alarm clock? We shall see. Yeah, and I know we're all laughing about this. This is hilarious, but that EMT's penis swelled up like a fucking birthday party animal where they do the balloon animals. This guy is going to be in so much pain for the next three months.
2:31:29I feel really bad for him. They look like a somersault just sitting in the 90-degree sun.
2:31:34Pat McAfee:Oh, they're blistering at the top as it's exploding. Yeah, there's a chance because those baseballs do not budge. They do not budge at all. And ball-to-balls are certainly problematic. Thank you for your service to the community, that EMT guy. But all we've got to say about it is... Oh, no! Let's stay in baseball. Let's go over to Philadelphia. Game 6 for Flyers-Pens. Phillies are in town.
2:32:02Pat McAfee:They're getting booed in Philadelphia. They're getting booed in Philadelphia, AJ. That's one huge... Oh, no! A lot of Phillies saying, hey, Johns, this is what winning looks like. Why don't you guys fucking try it? And then after getting booed, they had a doubleheader? They went crazy. It feels like they responded well over there, AJ. Yeah, Swarbo. How many homers did Swarbo have? Like six of them in two games? Two home runs. He had one in each game. He had five hits, I believe, in total. I heard it was more. Let's take the oh-no train over to NASCAR. Obviously, we're in race season. We showed this a little bit earlier.
2:32:40Pat McAfee:Bubba Lawson, Elite, got a little tail, a little bit of license plate racing. If you ain't rubbing, you ain't racing. Well, everybody's fucked. This is what happens in racing, especially at Talladega, AJ. One of these cars gets sideways. They're all liable to be out. That's why racing at Talladega is more of a race of attrition, a race of survival because you have no idea how the jet stream and the wind and everything's going to kind of go especially when you're up in the front there and somebody gives you a little whoopty woo and you go into the hoopty hoo and then everybody gets the doopty doo out of there and that's a huge crash at Talladega the only thing you can really say is oh no AJ your thoughts on the the hoo-ha down there at Talladega so either I need to be well actually no because he's in the very front I was saying he could be up front or in the very back to try to avoid this mess, but he was up front.
2:33:28He got bumped and it caused everything.
2:33:29Pat McAfee:Well, what you need is your spotter going, low, low, low, low, low, low, because they got a lot of smoke up here. The thing is, everybody goes up in smoke here. And it's Talladega. Look how steep them turns are. I mean, you ain't got a lot of time to slow down, because if you slow down, he might roll over. Okay, you can't do that. You got to go hammer down on this particular thing. Yeah, the boys just kind of lost their way, strictly because a little bit of a jet stream getting up underneath the cuz. And Talladega, oh! No! And the last one here, let's go to a restaurant, shall we? Rollerblading has certainly been making a big comeback.
2:34:02Pat McAfee:We do not know where this is, but we do know this was going to get there efficiently. Like the old school drive-thru type stuff. Sonic, I believe, used to do this. This guy's taking it to a new level. Scorching hot noodles coming right out. No!
2:34:18Pat McAfee:Smoke coming out of these noodles. Third degree burns on his neck. Fuck me! Is he the only one in rollerblades? Somebody walks over in shoes and says, oh, rollerblade guy, thanks for what you just did there. Take those off. Tried to put a little pizzazz on the arrival, and the only thing that happened is a little third-degree burn on his neck. AJ, I don't think I've ever seen a bigger public. Oh, no. Your thoughts, AJ? I'm a fan of this one. I think whatever the hot, steaming liquid went down his shirt is probably going to his neck all the way down his body right here. So who knows what the aftermath looks like after it.
2:34:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, and it felt like old buddy next to him with basic-ass shoes on was going to judge him pretty good. Told you, dickhead. Yeah, he has no idea. What's he doing? Why's he got blades on? He passes that guy. This isn't a blade restaurant. I think he's the only blader in town, okay? And he was Benny Blades. Yeah. This is what they – people came to this restaurant for Benjamin Blades here, okay? And so what? He makes one mistake. Think about the countless others that he has full on whoop-de-woo using the law of centrifugal force to keep that thing balanced. He's actually mixing the food. He puts salt in there.
2:35:34Pat McAfee:He mixes it, shaking, not stirred, as he's coming around. Drops that fucker right onto a thing. And then he... Enjoy. Skates his way out. How come we're not talking about that? How come the only time I see this guy is when he comes in with a fucking super amount of pizzazz and has no idea, seemingly, of the outcome, which is catastrophic? God, give it a little whoop-de-whoop. Why don't you guys check out my ass real quick? Oh, fuck. Oh, he grabbed it. Who's hungry? So many who's hungries. Is that poop soup? Yeah, there's a reason these people have their cameras out, because he has done this a thousand times.
2:36:13Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what. ceramic floor for those blades the rest of the day. Who fucking waxed here? You don't see inline very often at these restaurants. Normally they're the four stars or whatever. The quads? Yeah, the quads. Skates. They're lucky you didn't dump them on all the people eating there. He would never. He fell on his sword before he would fall. They're not boiling poop in the kitchen and serving it to people. Wake up! This isn't Ohio. It does look like poop soup. Jesus. Whatever it was, the fucking customers are never going to try it. Nope. Because Rollerblade Man had one of the best Oh No!
2:36:55Pat McAfee:of all time. That's kind of what this show is. Just one big Oh No. Oh No Soup. Welcome to Oh No Soup here at the Thunderdome. Yeah. We're going to have an incredible weekend. I hope you guys do too. Remember, it's the best weekend of all time because it's the next weekend. Kentucky Derby, the Oaks are happening today, I do believe. NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs, so many things happening in the sports world. Golf, obviously, always happening. We cannot wait to talk about it all on Monday. Talks to the table. Great work this week. Thank you, man. Happy birthday, dude. Nope. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.
2:37:32Pat McAfee:I was going to give everybody a great job. And you knew it was coming. We're not doing the whole thing. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, dude. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, man. My birthday is not today. Birthday weekend, though. People do this shit. For real, baby. Happy birthday. Thank you. For real. And I'm thankful to live another year. I appreciate the hell out of all of you. Legitimately. And now let's stop talking about that. Okay. And let's look ahead to the greatest overreaction Monday of all time. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what's on the horizon. We fucking love you guys. We love you.
2:38:07Pat McAfee:Not all of you. No. To be honest, because I read some of the stuff that you guys say about me. on a regular basis. And if you watch a show on a regular basis, I don't think you'd be able to say a lot of things you guys say about me, but I don't think that's a majority of the people. But to those people, I don't. But to the people that allow us to do this for a living, we love you. We appreciate you. We'll see you on Monday. Good work, AJ. Way to buy in there. That was awesome of you to do. Happy birthday to me. AJ bought in. Nice job. And that's so kind of him to do that for you. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.
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On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk and the boys recap last night’s NHL Playoff and NBA Playoff action, preview tonight’s playoff matchups, chat about Kirby Smart’s comments about the Big 10 compared to the SEC, preview the Kentucky Derby this weekend, and discuss everything else in the sports world. They are joined several incredible guests including 3x Super Bowl Champion, GM of the Kansas City Chiefs, Brett Veach, 4 star Quarterback from Vero Beach High School Wonder “Champ” Monds IV makes his college commitment; and 21 year NBA veteran, 12x All-Star, 11x All-NBA, 9x NBA All-Defense, second all time in career assists, future Hall of Famer, Chris Paul to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from the NBA playoffs thus far and looking ahead to tonight, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, enjoy the Kentucky Derby, have the greatest weekend of all time. We’ll see you on Monday. Cheers.
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