PMS 2.0 1545 - Overreaction Monday with Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole, Nelly Korda

14:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, we're with great eight teams playing. All of them can obviously go on a run. Oklahoma City doing it again would be very expected, especially with how they've been playing. But why not Wemby taking over something in the West? He was going to have to get past Ant-Man and Timberwolves. How is Ant-Man? Good question. We'll have Shams join us here in about 15 minutes for a drive-by. Sure. Yeah, we'll see. Just need a hot five.

14:25Darius Butler:Is he driving an RV?

14:27Pat McAfee:Not a deep dive. No, he's doing just a drive-by. Flintstones car. Josh Hart of the Knicks actually spoke about Tyrese Maxey. Man, you just spoke highly of Tyrese Maxey. Obviously, clearly the fastest human on any basketball court anytime he's on a basketball court. Josh Hart was asked about how he plans on defending him. He said he's going to ask him to just kind of slow down. Smart. Might help. Can you chill, dude? Can we do a little bit of that? I used to do that to punt returners. It did work for a couple guys. I think it's not a bad idea. Maybe just plant the seed. I don't think you should say it publicly that you're going to try to do it.

14:54Pat McAfee:I think you should have done it naturally. So he's going to have to find another way to get that message. But Maxie, unbelievable. How about Paul George?

15:00Darius Butler:Yeah. Still doing it.

15:01Pat McAfee:Paul George having a little bit of research. On his birthday. Joe, happy birthday, May 2nd. He's a May 2nd birthday as well. Shout out to The Rock and David Beckham.

15:08Darius Butler:Cool birthday. It's a good birthday.

15:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I think the queen, rest in peace. You know, I think she was also. Joel Embiid, though, he's got. Hey.

15:17Darius Butler:He does like to wiggle.

15:18Pat McAfee:When he does a little turn-fade thing, when he's playing, it is unbelievable. That's why I was pumped he chose America to play for, for the Olympics. Because we knew we were going to need him at some point. What's that, Tone? Toxic Tone. You don't like that he chose to be a part of the United States of America?

15:34Darius Butler:I do like that, but he's played for other countries before, so I just didn't understand how that works. But that's a me problem.

15:40Pat McAfee:It's NIL, baby. It's going bad.

15:42Darius Butler:I'm just not cultured enough.

15:44Pat McAfee:Definitely. Okay, let's move away from the NBA before we revisit it shortly. The NHL playoffs. Okay? We've told everybody that has ears and within earshot of these lips, the NHL playoffs are worthy of a watch. Okay? These dudes are flying on blades that are this thin. Broken everything happening in their body. You'll never hear about it. Dangling, going crazy. I mean, just so many storylines, legacies, legends, everything being created in real time in one death-defying feat of a sport, which is hockey. It is just outrageous what hockey is, especially in the playoffs whenever these psychos, they have a daredevil mentality, all these hockey players.

16:28Pat McAfee:These psychos are just like on a do or die every single 40 seconds of their life, which is how long a shift it lasts. They're just out there killing it. Rest in peace to all the teams that didn't survive first round.

16:39Darius Butler:A lot of good teams in there.

16:40Pat McAfee:A lot of great teams. No, not really.

16:42Darius Butler:A lot of great teams in there. They're all banged up, too. A lot of great teams. There was a lot of upsets. Sure. Four favorites moved on. Four dogs moved on as far as series pricing in the first round of the playoffs. So you never know what's going to happen today.

16:56Pat McAfee:So the NHL is showing up in a big way.

16:58Darius Butler:Parity is what they call it.

16:59Pat McAfee:Let's talk about the first game that we've seen in the second round. Okay, let's talk about Avalanche Wild being wild on the ice. So many goals. 14 different goal scores. And if you don't like hockey, you have to like excitement. How about there being 15 goals? Let's go to the Wild at Avalanche, okay, which became an immediate classic upon Avalanche goal. Sam Malinksy. Boom! Unbelievable from Malinksy. That's 1-0. Colorado is considered the best team in hockey, potentially best team of all time. 2-0. Jack Drury. Drury. Let's go to continue in the first period. Hey, dangles, cook.

17:41Darius Butler:So sick.

17:42Pat McAfee:Saucy. Off the wall to himself. Watch this replay. Passes it off the pad to himself. Let me go. Turn around. Bounce it back. Boom. Lock it in. 3-0. This team's going to murder the Minnesota Wild, right?

17:55Darius Butler:Yep.

17:55Pat McAfee:This team's going to absolutely suck. 3-0. That was a cute story. Welcome to the show. Well, then the Minnesota Wilds say, well, you know, why don't we all relax just for a second? Marcus Johansson, 3-1 now. Still in the first period. Let's go to Ryan Hartman. Grimy one underneath. Takes a huge shot. 3-2. Quinn Hughes, brother of Jackie Hughes. The Hughes Hockey Dynasty family cooks, sauces, go-time. Hartman, 3-2. Colorado Avalanche. As we continue here, Nick Blankenberg. What a pass. Oh, saucy. You see it on pass. What's your plan?

18:38Adam Schefter:Yeah, that's the hockey. Senior law.

18:40Pat McAfee:Over two sticks. Over the hill. Through the tunnel. Right the Blankenberg stick. Six. Nasty. 4-2 Colorado. Six goals. Still in a second. 13 minutes left. This is hockey all of a sudden. Yeah. He scored a touchdown. Ladies and gentlemen, Tarasenko. Off a skate. Woo! Filthy. Just, hey. Hey. Can't. Hey. Oh. Named after Colorado Avalanche great Peter Forsberg. Love the Forsberg goal right there in Colorado. 4-3 Colorado. Let's keep it moving here. Quinn Hughes. Get the goalie going back. Stops on a dime. Cuts back. Lefty sensation. He's a defense. Boom. Ched, goal. Just like he had a game winner in a semifinal of the Olympics.

19:31Pat McAfee:4-3. 4-4 now. Now, still in the second period. We got eight goals going.

19:41Pat McAfee:Marcus Folio. Stopped on a dime, shorthanded goal, and takes out the net immediately afterwards. Shorthanded goal. You know, with shorthanded in a power play, you normally see fast breaks. Marcus says, I got you, and I'm going to take out your net, punk. 5-4, still in the second. Colorado was up 3-0. Now they're behind by one. What happens next? Well, how about Devin Tay's high goal? 5-5. Ten goals. Still in the second period here. Still brewing. Kale McCarr. First of two. This will look very familiar. Maybe a little deja vu here in a few. Nazem Kadri. 6-5. Still. Are we playing defense? 14 minutes left.

20:30Adam Schefter:No defense.

20:30Pat McAfee:No defense at all. Who cares? 7-5. Still in the third. 4-0-3 left. Quinn Hughes with a nasty backhand dump in there. Matt Zuccarello. Goal. 7-6. Now it's 13. That's a touchdown. Two touchdowns. One missed extra point. Third period. 2-57 left. Kael McCarr once again from the same exact spot. Shoot. Hey. Hey. Hey. Kael McCarr, one of the goats, they'll say. Now what's the score? Oh, 8-6. 14 goals in the second round of the playoffs. Let's send one in from behind our own blue line. Nathan McKinnon gets one on the empty net. 15 goals. 14 different goals.

21:15Darius Butler:The over hit.

21:16Pat McAfee:The over hit. And the avalanche win. An insane game one against the Minnesota Wild in the second round of the NHL playoffs. If every game is going to be like that, let's have one. Should be. Hey, let's have one. Goalie's not seeing shit. Defense not doing nothing. Not standing on their heads. Are they changing the rules so that we doofuses can fall in love with the offense and the excitement like the NFL did?

21:37Adam Schefter:I certainly hope so. This reminds me of, like, growing up and tuning in to McGuire or Sosa or Bombs just going yard two or three times per game. So, yeah, maybe just keep the goalie standing on their feet and not their heads.

21:50Pat McAfee:Let's pivot away from the NHL and its electrifying second round of the playoffs, which started with the Avalanche in the Wild. Let's go to the NFL, which is always a buzzing. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from a commercial shoot, Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter! What up, senior? Gentlemen, what's going on? Hey, how are you doing, man? Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day. What do you got going on? You look great in that suit. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. We are here doing a Masters of the Universe commercial here in Bristol, Connecticut. Okay, how many lines do you have?

22:20So far, exactly to my capacity, zero. Zero so far.

22:26Pat McAfee:Are you just on your phone? I've mastered them. Yeah, are you just on your phone in the back, or what are you doing? I am wielding a 25-pound swerve to try to save the day. And so far, I think I've succeeded. So far.

22:40Darius Butler:Well done.

22:40Pat McAfee:Thank you, Shafty. Thank you, Shafty. Okay, let's see if you can succeed in your regular job here, which you've obviously crushed at. The picket in was phenomenal. Were you mic'd up the entire night, and have you watched the clips back and kind of relived what the draft was and how crazy all of it went? well i know that you know the funny part about that was someone had mentioned to me that i might be doing it i'm like okay yeah no problem like we'll figure out what we can do and the next thing i know and if the film shows up the day before and they're like here we're gonna wire you up and you'll be wired for two straight days and we're gonna be following you in in in the uh in your little potter i'm like whoa i like we never went over any of this and it just kind of dropped on At the last moment, nobody called to say this is what's happening.

23:24And, you know, it's a little embarrassing. I get very intense during these times like that. It kind of comes through. But NFL Films does such a great job with these shows. And it's a real look behind the scenes, a glimpse behind the curtain, at what goes in to these trades, these picks, the choices that each team has. I started to watch it last night. Honestly, I was captivated. And then my family and I got diverted by some dog issues, and we will get back to it tonight or tomorrow.

23:54Pat McAfee:Well, I'm sorry to hear that about your dog issues. Obviously, you understand how that all goes from our side. So positive vibes there. Back to the pick is in. Us watching it, it was interesting because first we realized, oh, Schefter was mic'd up that entire time we were talking to him backstage. Fascinating. I think a lot of the boys were trying to recalculate every convo they had. I hope they had you on camera when you walked directly into the puddle whenever George Pickens was intending to sign with the franchise tag with the Cowboys, which he's... I gotta say that. I gotta say that. That was shortly after I found out, or at least was of the mind, that there was a real possibility that night that the Rams were going to take Ty Simpson.

24:35I got a call literally right before that. And so I was in my own element, and I stepped right into that puddle as I'm standing with you and... Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman. in, Marcus Freeman. Yeah, AJ was there. Right, exactly. And so I was in my own universe, not a master of my universe at that moment, and just stepped right into the puddle as I was processing the Ty Simpson information and how it was going to play out that night.

24:58Pat McAfee:I think you're mastering the universe in your own way. I mean, you're completely locked in, oblivious to everything happening around you. We appreciate you wielding the 25-pound sword for us today and that commercial shoot that you're doing for the Masters of the Universe. Let's talk about the stories of today in the NFL. AJ Brown told a bunch of kids, I love you. Hey, hey, listen, I don't care what you hear. Just know that I love you. Okay? And just know that that's the case. It is youth camp this past weekend. First of all, love that A.J. Brown does a youth camp in Philadelphia. Love that he does that.

25:26Pat McAfee:Obviously, everybody is presented with the opportunity to do as such. The NFL has a great support system to be able to put these camps on for you. Agencies have put on camps for people. So just doing it and putting the effort into doing it is something in of itself that should warrant a little bit of a celebration to give back to the next generation and to the community. So I appreciate A.J. Brown doing this camp because anybody can. The fact that he does is sick. Now, let's get to what he said. Hey, that sounds a little bit like a breakup's potentially coming. Yeah, it does. And there's going to be some, I don't care what they say, all right?

25:58Pat McAfee:I love you. Don't you worry about Uncle A.J. Coach A.J. will always love you. They're going to say, I said bad things about your city. It's not you. Is that what that is? Or how should we view this as he tells these youth campers that he appreciates everything? Well, I think he knows where his future is headed at this moment. And it'll be a matter of the Patriots and the Eagles getting together to basically process the trade, finalize the trade, make sure it happens. But again, there's nothing that has transpired here, despite all the events in New England that has deterred this trade from coming up.

26:37I still think it is on track. I still think it's going to happen. I still think it will involve a future one, likely a 2028 first-round draft pick. I still think all these elements are in place, and I still think that once we get to June, that these two sides will get together and complete a trade that will send A.J. Brown to the New England Patriots. Now, again, this morning I was watching ESPN SportsCenter early, and they had a piece where they were doing their features on I scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl. and I saw that they had A.J. Brown on this one. They were featuring his touchdowns, and the Super Bowl says, Hi, I'm A.J.

27:13Brown, Philadelphia Eagles, and I thought to myself, they may have to edit that in about a month here, coming up here. That's what I think, but we'll see how it all plays out.

27:21Pat McAfee:I like that you can't enjoy content. You have to correct it. I appreciate that. I have a similar issue, but I do like the fact that they have it on tape, and he has a great history with the Eagles. I mean, they did great things together. Hey, that was a great trade by the Eagles for him from the Titans. What a title. Okay, that was obviously worked out very well for both sides. If it is over in June, as if you have basically guaranteed and confirmed, hell of a run. Can't wait to see him in New England. New England people need something to bring him up beat a little bit. Oh, yeah. A lot of whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa right now.

27:51Pat McAfee:You've got to wait until at least June 1st that something's coming around to Ben. Let's talk about some other quick stories here as you have an out in your to save the world soon. Go ahead, Tone.

27:59Darius Butler:Yes, Shepty, now that the draft has cleared, teams are starting to look at the free agents that were left over. Njoku is visiting the Chargers. Juwan Jennings last week was visiting the Vikings. There's others out there, Bosa, Stefan Diggs. There's a lot of big names left. With those ones, the first ones, Njoku and Juwan Jennings, they've let him out of the building. So does that mean he's not going to Minnesota? What's the update on the latest big name free agents? You know, those are some compelling names and some players that can help some rosters. And we're past the compensatory draft pick period, so now these players can sign with these teams and teams don't have to worry about how it will impact their future compensatory draft picks.

28:36So I would imagine you'll see some of these guys fall into place here. As you mentioned, Njoko visiting the Chargers. We had Juwan Jennings kicking off with the Vikings last week. These guys have waited for their number, and the number in May is not going to be as attractive as they would like. That's the issue. So at what point do we get to a spot where the players say, okay, I'm willing to live with what they're offering. I'm comfortable enough with what's on the table to accept an offer to move forward. And I think that's the process that all these players, some big-name players who could provide some real production, are now going through.

29:12And all these guys will get jobs, by and large, I think, before training camp. But he'll come in drips and drabs is the way I would imagine it.

29:19Pat McAfee:Oh, a couple drips and drabs. Let's talk about some drips and drabs quickly as you have about 30 seconds. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, she had a very serious situation with Sorsby. And granted, you know, a lot of things have to happen. but let's say that he is cleared and he is able to enter the supplemental draft. Do you think a lot of NFL teams would be interested in Soresby? Did you get a read, especially around draft time, like, hey, there were already teams looking forward to him being in the draft next year? And how do you see that situation playing out if he is, all the legal things are kind of done with?

29:51I'm glad you asked that question before I had to go save the universe because to me this is a really compelling storyline here that's going to play out here in the next few weeks. If his eligibility is not restored, and I don't know that it will be, there's a real possibility that he will then try to enter the supplemental draft. And the last time I think a player has been picked in the NFL supplemental draft was in 2019, so it's been a while since there's been a player who's picked. And I do think that if he gets into the supplemental draft and the league agrees to have a supplemental draft, all questions that would have to be answered here in the coming weeks, I think that we would get a team that uses a high pick, a high pick on Brendan Soresby.

30:33Now, I don't know whether that's going to be a first-round draft pick. Interestingly enough, the New York Jets have three first-round draft picks. But the way I understand it is, if you're going to give up one of your ones, that could be the highest pick. And so I don't know that anybody in a draft that has this many quarterbacks next year is going to be willing to give up its one. That'll be a question. But I absolutely think that once we get past round one, if nobody did it there, put in for him, I think we could absolutely see round two. Somebody put in for Soresby at that point. That would not surprise me.

31:08And by the way, I wouldn't be floored if he went in the first round either. Like there are a lot of people that think he is a real talent, a bona fide prospect. And I think this is going to be one of the great storylines that plays out here over the next couple of months. does he have his eligibility restored? Does he enter the supplemental draft? If he's in the supplemental draft, where is he going? Because I think it's going to be fairly high.

31:32Pat McAfee:And what's the deadline again for the declaration? His agent was told by the league that it was June 30th. The league has told me there's no deadline. I think that it's such a rare circumstance that nobody really has the actual answer. They're still sorting through it. But I would think here in the next five, six weeks, he'll know. And really, that question will be answered. He hired Jeffrey Kessler, the Northern Attorney. If he can get his eligibility restored, not even a question or an issue. But if he can't, and he's going to try to enter the supplemental draft, we have to see if the league's going to have the supplemental draft.

32:08I don't know if the deadline is the issue, but they'll figure out a way to get it worked out.

32:12Pat McAfee:Deadline is certainly a thought if the NCAA is involved because they don't move that quick. If he was to with Jeffrey Kessler, who repped Jordan, I believe, whenever he took on NASCAR in this Monopoly thing that was happening before the season. I believe he's been a part of Bounty Gate. I believe he's been a part. Jeffrey Kessler has experience in these waters, I do believe, so hopefully he's able to expedite the entire process. We'd like to let Sorsby know, though, that if he gets a fresh opportunity to go to the NFL and all this other stuff kind of just stops, if that's the case, not a bad idea there either.

32:41Pat McAfee:But, hey, do you, do your thing, and we hope you get all the help that you need going forward, Sorsby, because you're a hell of a talent. We don't need you wasting it. We need you on the field for at least 15, 20 years. That's how we feel about it all. Look at the last case that Jeffrey Kessler just won. Look at the last case he just won. The streaming movies case. That was him. Sure. This guy, he's the man. He kind of gets it. That's what Shefty's saying. Well, now there's literally millions of dollars at stake here for Soresby College or in the NFL. You're the man. Go save the universe, ladies and gentlemen.

33:16Pat McAfee:That's Adam Schefter. Thank you, Chef D. Thank you, Chef D, for taking time. Fascinating, though, because if he says he's no longer doing the NCAA college, then the NCAA investigation would stop, right?

33:28Darius Butler:Yeah, unless they have to do what's called where – but he couldn't even come back, so they wouldn't even have to do – Yeah, the show. The show applause. Yeah, yeah.

33:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, because Harbaugh just, what, shut it down. He can't get my phone. Hey, I'm going to Los Angeles.

33:40Darius Butler:Yeah. Okay, well, you can't coach in the NCAA for ten more years. Fine. That is literally right. Yes. To a T.

33:47Pat McAfee:You know, he didn't really hear anything else after. It's like, Soresby could be the first player to be like, what's that? The NFL is saying, today's the day. All right. Hey, where do you see your phone? Okay. I'm going to the pocket league.

34:02Darius Butler:It is interesting for a team like the Jets, like Sheffy was talking about, that has three first rounds. They're like, yes, we'll do a first. We'll do a supplement. We'll give away one of our firsts for the 2027 draft. Not the first one. Maybe the third of our ones.

34:14Pat McAfee:Yeah. Can you designate your second first or your third first whenever you do it? I'd assume it's all negotiable. I think, you know, hopefully he's getting the help and got the help that he needed and that he's not going to be addicted to this, which it seems like he potentially is. It became part of his daily habit from what we learned and heard and saw. We don't know anything about all of the details, but we just know the vague stuff that's been out there. Hopefully he gets the help. And if he gets another shot to kind of reset his entire life, and it is the league, congratulations, man. I hope you make the most of it.

34:41Pat McAfee:Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior NBA insider Shom Sharanya. Yay, Shom! Shom, sorry, we took a little bit there to kind of clear up the Soresby stuff as we wrapped it up because he could potentially just walk out on an NCAA investigation, it feels like. But whatever ends up happening, we know that we don't know. We hope that the right thing is happening for Soresby the human. Now let's move to the NBA. You guys are already firing coaches, huh? Orlando Magic take the number one overall seed, Pistons, to seven. and all of a sudden we say, let's get this coach the hell out of here. Is this your standard operating procedure?

35:14Pat McAfee:Immediately after a loss, you move on from your coach if that's the decision you're going to make. And how many of these coaches should we see moving on probably? I mean, this is just the start, I think, of different coaches that are being under evaluation based on playoff outcomes. And this Magic team, they went out and got Desmond Bain last offseason, and they had expectations to contend in the Eastern Conference. And then this year, they lose in the first round for the third straight year. they were hovering around 500 at different points Jamal Mosley had a lot of good that happened two division titles went to the playoffs three consecutive years for the first time since 2011 in Orlando and listen, he's going to get another shot in the NBA, he's going to get another look but this is a team that had accumulated a ton of expectation on this team, Jeff Weltman the president who we just saw right there he actually got extended during the season right before the NBA Cup Final Four.

36:10So he's going to lead the coaching search for the next head coach of the Orlando Magic. But around Paolo Banqueiro, Franz Wagner, Jalen Suggs, Desmond Bain, this team has aspirations to contend. The problem is, especially those three guys, Suggs, Banqueiro, and Wagner have played about 20 % of their games the last two to three years together. And that is going to be an issue, whether it's for Jamal Mosley or the next head coach.

36:35Pat McAfee:Wagner getting hurt against the Pistons was a big part of the storyline of the Pistons coming back. A lot of people are saying maybe Dusty May gets poached out of Michigan down in Orlando. Thibodeau potentially a name being involved. And how do these coaching searches normally go? Are we going to hear all the names that we potentially just think are available? We're still very early on this process. Anyone that knows anything about Orlando, they're going to keep things very buttoned up in terms of this is now the start of the process. They fired Jamal Mosley. There was a point that I heard over the last few weeks that even though a lot of people on the NBA expected this outcome, if the Magic were to lose in the first round, no real names had surfaced, or there was not that back-channel conversation that took place.

37:21But now Jeff Weltman and the Magic will be going through their search. I mean, listen, there's going to be a ton of names that get thrown around. I particularly don't see Dusty May. I think he has a good thing going at Michigan. I would expect probably this search to focus on guys with experience at the head coaching position, guys that have had a level of success in the playoffs, taking teams deep. Because that's really, if you're trying to compete and contend, that's really what you're looking for.

37:48Adam Schefter:Okay, let's go to the medical tent. Go ahead, D-Bud. Absolutely. Some franchise players. These are some health updates on Ant-Man, Joel Embiid, and Luka Doncic potentially coming back. Yeah, Anthony Edwards is just insane. An absolute Wolverine. Today's nine days to the day he had a bone bruise hyperextension in his left knee. And I'm told today he is pushing the Timberwolves, their medical staff. He wants to play tonight. He has made it clear to the Timberwolves. The Timberwolves internally didn't expect him to really be a viable candidate to play in a game until game three or game four when the series shifts back to Minnesota this upcoming weekend.

38:28But Anthony Edwards got a workout in on Saturday. he got in at least one workout on his own as well privately he worked out on Sunday with the team he has not gone through a full practice today he participated in a significant he did most everything at shoot around today drills with the first team and so he hasn't gotten the full clearance from the team's medical staff but Anthony Edwards right now as of this moment is pushing the team and he wants to play tonight in game one as this series starts in San Antonio nine days to the exact date he had this gruesome looking injury.

39:05Pat McAfee:Yeah, and his knee, it was disgusting. I didn't even want to show it on this show. I said, no, we're not showing it because of how disgusting it was. I don't know how he didn't tear shit, break shit. I don't know how none of that happened. Absolutely phenomenal athlete. And what a stud if he's able to make his way back. Okay, let's talk about some of the other guys that he mentioned there. Joel Embiid, can we talk about him? His resurgence back into my life has been fun because they're recirculating all the hits from Joel Embiid, both as a Twitter star. He was one of the greatest tweeters in the history of Twitter.

39:34Pat McAfee:And obviously, as he's grown older, I think he's kind of fallen out of just demoralizing and ruining people online. I think he's more so focused on other stuff. But Tyrese Max, he's unbelievable. Paul George is having a second coming. It feels like the Sixers are real. Is Joel Embiid going to be able to maintain down the stretch? And are the Sixers a true threat in the eyes of everybody else left? For sure, right? You have to be, especially the way Joel Embiid's playing and what's crazy is you're seeing him adapt his game. He's changed his game. He was known as this brute force scorer, but he's spending time at three-point line.

40:05He's playmaking. Just for him to be on the court, him at 70%, 80 % of what Joel Embiid is known for is better than most players. I mean, period. They're 100%. So Joel Embiid seems to be healthy. He's listed probable to play tonight in game one. So the expectation, obviously, is that he plays. but the run that Philadelphia was on and I just think about everything Joel Embiid has been through throughout his playoff career. He's dealt with ligament damages in his knee. He's dealt with ligament damages in his fingers and thumbs. He's dealt with Bell's palsy on his face. He's dealt with orbital fractures.

40:44He has had every injury you can possibly imagine on the human body all around the playoff time. Some of them he's gutted out. Some of them he's not been able to gut out. And this year, even in that game, in game seven, it looked like he hyperextended his knee multiple times, and he played through it. He came back just two weeks after an appendectomy. Just for him to play, obviously for them, that gives them a chance.

41:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, hell yeah. I can't wait to watch it. We've been trusting the process a long time. Long time. Long time over there. Got to go middle, though. Got to go middle. Excited to see it kind of get to the mountains up. Now let's talk about the Lakers. They've got to take on, obviously, the mountain right now. Luka going to be back this series. where are our expectations on Dacic playing basketball? Yeah, Luka Dacic, all expectation, he's going to be out to start the series. My understanding, as of yesterday, he hadn't done full-fledged contact work, full-fledged, like, really, you know, unabated running.

41:40Like, he hasn't gone full-fledged yet when it comes to that. And so, obviously, you have to be able to run fully, do some contact workouts, one-on-one, two-on-two, whatever, in order to be able to play in games. I know. One-on-one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

41:55Pat McAfee:We don't have enough time in the calendar, I don't think. If he's not doing any. Ant-Man don't do that shit. If he's not doing one-on-zero. I want to play. Ant is doing these full hard workouts, individual workouts. Yeah. It's playoff basketball. It's different injuries. To be able to run and play. I think even if individual. Even if individually you're able to run with no limitations, I think maybe then you're just like, hey, I'm playing. I don't care what you say. We know Luke is a dog, too. We know Luke is a dog, too. We know he'll have a beer immediately out. We know he's a dog. I will also say the hamstring is a little bit different than a twisted knee per se.

42:40Like if you're dealing with a bone bruise, hyperextension, some things are pain tolerance. If a hamstring, if you're not able to push off your leg with a soft tissue injury, that can also be different.

42:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, hammies just decide, too. They kind of pick and choose when you're coming back, when you're not. Yeah, and if you're just not far enough back and you decide to go, the hamstring will punish you. It'll say, yeah, actually, we're going to continue to do this, which is always the fear. Can't live in your fears, but you do have to make decisions for yourself and your team. We appreciate you joining us, Shams. You're the man. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Is Giannis getting traded or?

43:17Ask me next time We're not there yet

43:22Pat McAfee:Is Jalen Brown going to be in trouble Because he's streaming He's refs her ass I do expect the league to look into this situation Tell them to subscribe Tell them to send some subs Tell the NBA to look into it and subscribe We appreciate them doing that Ladies and gentlemen that's Sean Sharanya Bring the bell, NBA. You're going to watch, at least. Yeah. Sub. At least give some subs. You're a league. Jeez. Got to have enough. He did just kind of hop right on there. Yeah, it was a big time. Just shut up. You didn't like it? What are you talking about? Like, give it a week, maybe. Sorry, new home.

44:01New home.

44:01Darius Butler:I'm trying to figure it out.

44:03Pat McAfee:Jeez, Luis. Share was a little low. I think Ty likes his feet to ride a little high. Yeah. Yeah, he always got his feet up. Kind of does his little thing. We got the things. Let's continue with the NBA conversation with a man who is one of four players to win a title with three different teams. The Spurs, the Raptors, the Lakers. He was a second rounder out of North Carolina. An NCAA champion. Ladies and gentlemen, a one-time all-defense team, which we like. Yes, we do. Bob Wood. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's done it to Cameron, too. So many times. One of the best ever. Ladies and gentlemen, Danny Green.

44:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, Danny Green. Hey. What's up, guys? How you guys doing? Does this wood look familiar to you? Huh? This is Cameron. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had some good nights in Cameron. I was fortunate enough to have a good team. I had a good team. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, you're a poor, a good team, Danny. Thank you for joining us, and we don't feel as if you're going to die at any second. You know, the last time when you were joining us, my anxiety, our anxiety, through the roof. We know you're a talented driver. We know you understand awareness and everything like that. But at any moment, if somebody was high, we would have felt terrible.

45:09Pat McAfee:So thank you for rescheduling here for us. I appreciate you guys making it work for me. Yeah, no problem at all. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards here. Shams just told us that he is doing everything in his power to play just nine days after a hyperextension of his knee that caused a bone bruise. Whenever you see a player like Anthony Edwards, his dog mentality is like the only way I can kind of describe it. What do you think that means to his team? And what do you think this means to science if he's able to recover this quickly, Danny? I think it means more to his team than to science.

45:37And, you know, like I said, I heard you guys talking about the Luka thing and him. I said it's not as serious of a tendon issue. It's more of a bruise and how much pain he can endure. So, I mean, I think it means the world to his team. Like his team knows that he's not leaving him out there. You know, we've seen other cases where guys have had some injuries where people might question it. And they're like, you know, where's he at? Why is he not on the bench? Or why is he not working out with the team? You know, he's actually being around the group and wanting to try to give it a go. and we know how much of a difference it makes for that group when he's on the floor.

46:09His numbers against the Spurs this year, I think, pretty astronomical compared to the rest of the season or against other teams. So it would make a big difference in this series if he can play. Even if he does play and is 100 % healthy, I don't know. I'd still probably give the edge to the Spurs, but he definitely could make it, he could change that narrative.

46:28Pat McAfee:You want a title there? Do you have to say that? You feel obligated, yeah? No, I don't. Not at all? You don't? Because that's three teams. You're one of four players in history to win with three different teams. Do you feel obligations to represent for each team individually? No. I mean, I try to be not biased. Again, when I was talking to Toronto-Cleveland series, I played for both those teams. And I'm probably more tied to Toronto than I am Cleveland. And I said Cleveland winning in seven games. So, yeah, I'm not tied. I don't feel like I need to say that. Yeah, I'm just studying the game. There's proof.

46:59Pat McAfee:No, but no. The fight is incredible to watch, by the way. Every time it comes playoff time, I think to myself, man, maybe I should watch Cavaliers games during the regular season. And then I immediately remember, there's no way I'd be able to do that ever. So I kind of get bummed out about it. But he is a special player. Fun to watch. Dog mentality, you talk about it. He has it, obviously, in bunches. I appreciate the fact that tonight on NBC we have two bangers. Sixers at Knicks at 8 o 'clock and then 9.30 Wolves at Spurs. That's going to be a late one. but obviously the Wemby Anthony Edwards show will be worth it.

47:33Pat McAfee:Let's talk about the Sixers and Knicks. Sixers just knock out the Boston Celtics in such a beautiful fashion. You know, the Sixers are coming. The Sixers are coming. One if by land, two if by sea, and he will be playing. He's Joel Embiid. Now, what are the chances here that the Sixers are able to continue to go here? And is this the Knicks' best path to continue to move forward to try to win a championship? Yeah, I think this is their best goal, but it's not going to be easy one. This is a tough one. It all depends on how healthy Joel is. He was pretty banged up in the series of Boston and got even more banged up toward the end of that series.

48:10You know, he took a shot to the knee, ankle, like a couple people landed on him. Obviously, he's kind of on the floor a lot, so that doesn't help. And Tyrese Maxey's been playing at a high level. Paul George, another guy that's kind of reemerged himself and looked like a younger PG. So those guys have been playing well. Vijay Edgecombe has been hooping some, but it's really going to rely on how healthy Joel is matching up with Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson. Those two guys have really dictated the series because of how they control the boards and rebounds. And then it's going to be a challenge for their wings.

48:42But if Joel is healthy, they have a pretty good shot. They went to seven games two years ago with the same kind of group. It shows you how powerful that Joel is and Tyrese Maxey are as a duo.

48:53Pat McAfee:I would love to see the Sixers go, just for the Philadelphia fans. Yeah. Because this Sixers team has been hyped for, what, 10 years now? Long time. Right? Has it not been? They've made a lot of moves in and out to try to hype it up even more. Paul George going over there was a massive ordeal. Now it's just like Paul George is on Joel and Tyrese Maxey's team, which is a crazy even thought and all, because Paul George can rattle off, what, 15 straight? Oh, yeah. If he really gets going in the middle of it. Good for Philly. Good for the Sixers fans. Good for Embiid, too. You know? Seriously. Yeah, they need it.

49:22They definitely need it.

49:23Pat McAfee:Embiid's been embattled, you know, and beating the Celtics is obviously special. Let's go to the West here with obviously a potential dynasty in the making. Go ahead, D-Bot.

49:31Adam Schefter:Yeah, obviously this Lakers-Thunder series, it always starts with LeBron. You beat him in the finals. You won the finals with him. What is it about him on this level? And then what makes OKC so great, so great of a team? And then how do you see this series going? Which makes OKC so great is, I mean, they have great defense. but it's it starts with their the collective chemistry like off the court on the court they actually enjoy playing together you know they've been together for a couple years you don't see that often in the nba like we're now even in college because nil the teams that went far in a tournament the teams that had juniors and seniors that have been together three or four years like this group has been together for a couple years now they have some experience they have championship dna they have a leader in shea one of the best players in the world if not the best player in the world and the only thing that lakers have a chance because jalen williams is out but bron he always gives you a chance and now you have austin reese back and they're also playing together as a collective that's the reason why everybody counted them out against houston but that's the reason why they beat houston because guys like marcus smart luke canard stepping up and toward the end of the season that last month they really came together and bonded defensively offensively and they're used to playing without guys because all year long they've had austin out luke out and bron out so they they know what it what it's like what it takes and who needs to step up when one of those guys that goes down.

50:48So it's going to be a fun series. Still give the edge to OKC. See, I'm not biased. I'm a Laker, but I'm going to give the edge to OKC. And I think this probably goes, you know, I like to see it go six games.

51:00Pat McAfee:Six games? OKC? Like OKC in six? I watched that Oklahoma City team do what they did last year, kind of start this entire crazy pace. And then we ran into Caruso at one of the college game days. And he was like, how are you guys doing? and he's like, yeah, we've lost like two games or something like that. I'm like, what? This Oklahoma City team's just been dominant, right, from jump, Danny? Is it a clear head and shoulders difference between them and every other team throughout the season and everything? Or do they have some faults that maybe LeBron James would be able to figure out? They are vulnerable.

51:33They were head and shoulders at the start of the season. They started off like 24-1, but since then, you know, there's another team that they're not playing right now out west that kind of had their number. But they've shown some vulnerability. but toward the end of the season, Shea has just been on a tear even without J-Dub. And I think that's where they have injuries. They've been guys in and out of the lineup. So that's where they show some vulnerability. And I guess they weren't great at shooting from the perimeter. So we'll see. You know, obviously the game is about makes and misses and who's going to shoot well from the perimeter.

51:59But defensively, I think that's where the difference is. And that's why Oklahoma City is favored to win the championship.

52:06Pat McAfee:That's right, Danny. In the past, you know, three, four years. That's right, Danny. Absolutely. As you cut out there, I finished your thoughts. I think you said something differently than I said, but we both kind of got to the same place at the same time. LeBron James, fun fact, same age as both head coaches in this series. Same age as DJ and Daggs. So shout out to LeBron, another head coach on the floor. You know, that's kind of how it's always been chatted about. I love that the NBA is crushing. I love that the ratings are all the way up and to the right. Now, I also like that there's some drama brewing, Danny.

52:36Pat McAfee:Former player, obviously multiple-time champion, now one of the talking heads of sport. Can't wait to get your thoughts on all this. Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, Danny, he's talking about Jalen Brown going live on Twitch. As a Celtics fan, I appreciate the access you get. And then at a certain time, it's like, hey, when you say your favorite season of basketball was the season that you played without Jason Tatum, that kind of rubs some fans the wrong way, myself included. He did mention in there kind of talking about how, you know, the NBA has a flopping problem. Like Joel Embiid flops. He know he flops.

53:06But at the same time, he also knows it's going to help them win and basically help his team. The same conversation goes on with SGA, who we were just talking about, kind of knowing your spots and just knowing how the game is called. What is kind of your entire take about the whole entire kind of flopping thing? I know a couple years back, they tried to change it where kind of the landing zone, where if it wasn't an unnatural shooting motion and you did that, then it wasn't actually a foul. That kind of seems to have dwindled to the back and that is getting called again. How do you think they fix it and can they fix it?

53:41I think they can fix it. Well, first I want to say, I think Jalen Brown had an unbelievable season and I don't think he meant his favorite season was without Jason Tatum. I think it was as a collective, they had a great season as a group and adding him at the end of the year. He said it twice, Danny. It's his feelings.

53:58Pat McAfee:He's allowed to feel how he feels. So am I. They showed a lot of character. and he had his best season, and this was a team that had no expectations before the beginning of the season, and they changed that narrative and those expectations throughout the season because of how well they played. But he's right. He's not wrong. I just think the timing was wrong. Like, great message, great messenger, wrong timing. Like, right after game seven, you know, you probably wait a little bit of time, but there is a flopping issue. And as a defensive person, like, I'm more biased toward the defense. I would like to see the defense have more, you know, abilities allowed to play it, you know, and be more physical.

54:31Only certain teams, certain players are allowed to, but there's a way to cut out the foul baiting. And great players will adjust. They'll still be great. They'll still find ways to score and still get to free the line. But there is a flopping problem, and they can change it. They emphasize, you know, in the beginning of the season, the flopping where they're called technicals. They haven't done that in a long time. So there is a way to change it. The referees have to referee the game differently. And, I mean, we'll see if that ever happens, but there is a flopping issue in our league. And I kind of think deteriorates the product when you have to see so many free throws throughout the game when you're just trying to watch the flow of the game.

55:03But it's definitely doable. Something you can change, and I don't think he's wrong.

55:07Pat McAfee:James Harden was back on his bullshit yesterday. It was awesome. It was great to see. It's like if Bob Ross was to come back from heaven and start painting again, you would have to watch it. James Harden had a classic from half court guy accidentally puts his hand out. Shooting three, shoots three free throws, gets to 18 points. Okay, this is the fourth quarter. It's like he's definitely getting a 20. Everybody on the court should have known that. He gets right past half court, two guys on him. He literally bounces off a guy, dives out of bounds, spears the coach into the crowd. Oh, yeah. Gets two more worth 20.

55:44Pat McAfee:It was spectacular to watch. I think he's the first one I think of whenever I go back to, like, being able to get it.

55:51Darius Butler:Manipulating.

55:51Pat McAfee:Baiting. Yeah, he was so good. I mean, it was. Yeah. And then it was. He's a master class. He was one of the first guys to kind of know how to manipulate the game a little bit. But I would say he was a guy that got hit quite a bit. They stopped calling it for him. But there was other guys like Trey Young that learned how to jump backwards. They changed rules for certain guys. You know, Jalen Brunson's in there. SGA is in there. Even Luka, Jokic, Joel Embiid. Like, there's a lot of guys in there. And the stars, they can say that about every MVP that's one MVP. Because they got a lot of free throws.

56:21And the argument was, you can't touch them. It's a skill to know how to draw fouls. but also be that good where guys can't stop you and have to foul you a lot of times. But James is one of the originators, and that's how he was one of the best scorers in this game because he also knew how to get to the free throw line.

56:35Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was unbelievable. And if you didn't guard him, he was going to make the shot. So he kind of got you in a spot where you got it. You're damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Actually, we're shooting three. Thank you so much. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. That's Danny Green. Yay, Danny! Get this guy half court. Accidentally puts his hands out. You're done. Yep, thank you. It's tough. Shoot that. The thing hit off the side of the backboard. Hour two on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life.

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58:41Pat McAfee:Sports! celebrating life. We appreciate you, Ty. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, is your sweet hoodie. Yes, sir.

58:48Adam Schefter:Thank you. Someone sent it into the Thunderdome a few months back around Veterans Day, so thank you. Shout out to you.

58:55Pat McAfee:Yeah, shout out to your dad as well. Shout out to your family. Shout out to the vets. Shout out to everybody that sends something to the Thunderdome. And just know that it's about a 10 % hit rate on whether or not... It's in the 10%. For a reason. Boom. For a reason.

59:10Adam Schefter:Hell yeah.

59:10Pat McAfee:But not everything makes it through. Obviously, we have gates outside, so whenever delivery shows up, it doesn't make it past gate. Then it goes into a purgatory world that we don't know where it is. Some things get in. Some things are not really boxed that well, so they kind of just blend in with everything else, and they never get seen. Some things have incredible boxes. For instance, Kennywood sent me a sign. Oh, did that. Can't wait to unwrap that. That's a classy organization. Yeah, another sign. I don't know if you saw, a slew of polos. Love that. Yeah, I got steel curtain polos. Oh, the ones we didn't pick up.

59:40What? They just sent them in the mail. I like that. That's not true. I'm assuming whatever you got looks just like that thing, by the way. What's that? I mean, you see it right there right now, bottom left. It's a good logo. On the screen. It's fantastic. Double down. Maybe sent a bigger one. Made it impossible to get out of the box. I loved it.

59:57Pat McAfee:Yeah, I loved everything about it. Unboxing these things is certainly a problem. And if we do get just a little bit, it's like whenever you're golfing and a ball goes into the rough. Sure. And it disappears. We've all seen it here, right? I'm done looking for it. It's all in this area. I'll drop it here, okay? If it's hard to find, we're moving on. Oh, yeah. The box is tough to open. We move on. Toss it.

1:00:20Darius Butler:Well, you got to package things with care.

1:00:22Pat McAfee:No, I understand, but I don't need 50 wraps of tape around that thing. Okay? Both sides, triple sides. Don't need that.

1:00:30Darius Butler:Maybe it's a glass Fabergé Kennywood sign.

1:00:34Pat McAfee:You know what? You're right. Thank you so much. No, we see it. It's yellow wood right there. It's still wrapped up. because of all the damn tape. I'm not just talking about the incredible sign here. I'm talking about everything that comes in here. We're very grateful for it, but just know that it is hit or miss on whether or not it makes its way into us and whether or not we see it. But if you send it in, we appreciate you. If you watch, I appreciate that. And that hoodie is awesome. Thank you to your dad and to all veterans out there. Joining us now is a man who has led a franchise in tackling for how many years now?

1:01:03Darius Butler:Carly was doing it back then. Since him or forever?

1:01:05Pat McAfee:Since him. How long has he been leading it for? Probably seven, eight years, ten years. Probably 2015, 2014. He's been retired for ten years. And he probably got it before he. So maybe 2012. 14, 14, 15 years. This guy's been the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packets for 15 years. Easily. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. And the next closest, the guy who's kind of chasing him down, he signed with the Raiders. So it looks like there's going to be another. Restart the clock. Yeah, restart it. Oh, a man who's going to be the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers for at least two more generations.

1:01:39Pat McAfee:A college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yeah. Oh, good haircut today on A.J. Hawk. How are you, pal? I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? You all right? Life is good over here, you know? Daughter's birthday today. Happy birthday to Mackenzie. I appreciate everybody's well wishes and being kind to me over the weekend, all the happy birthday wishes I got. AJ, it was good for my soul to see the nice things, you know? Usually I hate these things. I get really uncomfortable. People are saying really nice stuff to me. I needed it.

1:02:09Pat McAfee:You know, life had been life and pretty good there for a bit, and people were super kind, so I'm very grateful for that. Birthdays are nice, man. You know, perspective is normally something that can only come from a devastating situation. I've thought about this this morning more so than maybe ever, especially with Mackenzie's third birthday. Normally perspective comes from, like, bad things. Man, Mackenzie's third birthday is an incredible thing. Great perspective coming from that. My birthday, great perspective coming from that. It's like any time you can get a reset on how life is kind of being viewed by you, I view it as a good thing.

1:02:39Pat McAfee:And this weekend was special. This morning was awesome celebrating with her. And, yeah, life is good, AJ. Sports are awesome, too. We got our final eight in the NBA and in the NHL. The MLB is continuing to absolutely crush it. The NFL has drama all the time. Life is good, AJ. How are you over there? I'm doing great. Obviously, it is weird getting older. You're right. It gives you perspective on certain things. And I think the good thing is you start to not worry about the dumb garbage stuff that you tend to worry about when you're a younger person, maybe. So that's a good thing. I think age will bring you at times, especially having kids, too.

1:03:09If you realize, like, all right, man, like, we got, we're okay. My kids are fine. We're okay.

1:03:13Pat McAfee:I had a full conversation about whether or not I wanted to continue to be petty my 40th trip now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not there. I'm still. I decided. With who, yourself? I mean, you got to be you. You got to be you. Yeah, but perspective, you know, that would be something that I could get rid of. Evolution. I could get rid of it, but I said it deserves to at least see 40. Sure. You know, it deserves to at least make it.

1:03:35Darius Butler:Might as well bring it over the hill with you.

1:03:37Pat McAfee:Exactly. And then maybe we put it on, you know, because then we'll move on. But it was a nice little, hey, what do I want to continue to carry? Because this would be my 40th, right? Right now I'm doing it. This is my 40th. Yeah.

1:03:47Darius Butler:Because you're zero for the first year. Your 40th trip.

1:03:49Pat McAfee:Because when you turn 39, you've completed your 39th trip, right? Yeah. Because you don't turn one until you've gone 365 days. So, like, this is currently my 40th trip, I believe, around the sun. So it's like, how do I want this one to go? I had a full conversation with myself this first time. Out loud? Was it out loud? A couple of them made their way to my ears. You know, normally it was inside and then I'd catch myself late going, yeah, but why would I do that? And who am I talking to right now? Myself. Okay, let's go ahead and move on. Maybe we stop that. Maybe we don't do that for the 40s.

1:04:18Pat McAfee:But, yeah, it was cool. It was cool to see what I want to continue to do. And I do believe Mackenzie's the main changer and driver of basically everything in that. You know, it's cool. She's awesome. That is how it works. You're right. And she's getting at the age, too. Yeah, it's getting super fun. You got another one on the way. And, you know, you're already heavily involved in sports. I heard you talking about her soccer, young soccer career already early in the show today. That's right. 2030, she's going to be, or 2040, she's going to be the youngest ever, I think, in the World Cup. And then...

1:04:47We need her. We need her.

1:04:48Pat McAfee:She's ready. She's ready. And the women's national team for soccer has been so good for so long. She understands that it's an elite bunch, and she's going to work for it. She understands. She's going to understand. She's got to work for it. She's got a lot of energy, which I like. Huge. She loves young people, which I do like. And I think she's naturally kicking the ball lefty, which is good, because we've got some messy tape to show her. You know, we've got some. They'll go. He is, isn't he? Oh, yeah. He's continuing to just carry that team down there, entire franchise. What a genius David Beckham is.

1:05:17Pat McAfee:Let's go ahead and invest in this entire thing.

1:05:19Adam Schefter:He struggled a little bit in our new stadium, but he made an appearance at the Miami Patriots. Why can't we speak after a big loss? That's all I heard about.

1:05:26Pat McAfee:Messi's dodging accountability? No, no, no. It doesn't have to do with the loss, per se. They sent the youngsters out there for him, they said.

1:05:31Darius Butler:They do the same thing every game. Messi never talks. Why doesn't he talk? He doesn't talk. He doesn't have to. He can't be held accountable. He doesn't like talking. He just likes kicking. The CR7 doesn't exist anymore? Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, you see CR7 in the Saudi League yesterday? Watch some highlights, dude. Nobody watches that song. Nobody watches either league. Does it matter? What? Actually, it's sold out every Miami game. What was it, 76 ,000 at the last game?

1:05:57Pat McAfee:Hey, the stadium looks awesome. Have you seen it? It's all pink. No, I haven't seen it, Pat.

1:06:03Darius Butler:Why not? He just scored.

1:06:05Pat McAfee:I think he just scored. I'm just kidding.

1:06:06Darius Butler:Was it one of the nights I was at the bar? It was on one of the TVs.

1:06:09Pat McAfee:The stadium looks sick. That's the first time that I've seen, I guess, Columbus build a stadium and everything, and I assume there's a big highlight of that. We know the Pittsburgh Riverhounds have an incredible stadium down there by the river. And that's obviously filled up. But that Miami one looked big. You said 76 ,000 people were in a strictly MLS stadium.

1:06:27Darius Butler:No, that was in an away game. This one's not that big. They played at a massive stadium. I forget who it was again. It was a few weeks ago. Maybe Dallas was 76 ,000.

1:06:35Pat McAfee:I got a bad feeling. I thought they were doing 76 ,000 a night down there. No, that'd be cool. It's too much, way too much. Yeah, that's dreamland. They might get there. How was the F1 down there in Miami? I heard it was a dream come true.

1:06:48Adam Schefter:Phenomenal. Messi made his presence fail. He showed up in a few different garages, but the most probably pictures or content you saw was from the Mercedes garage because young Kimi Antonelli has won his third race in a row, 19-year-old Italian. Yep, young Italian, man. Mercedes won all four races this year. He won the last three. First driver ever to convert his first three poles into three victories.

1:07:13Pat McAfee:So it sounds like it's pretty easy. A 19-year-old just coming in there and just winning this thing?

1:07:17Adam Schefter:What's his name? What's the Paisons' name? I mean, sometimes you have a Wimby or a LeBron or a Luka come along and just dominate early. He dominated on every level. They sped him up, put him up in the top car. And last year was his rookie year. And this season, he's been dominating. Got a great car as well.

1:07:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, great car obviously helps. 19-year-old winning is good for the future. But we want to talk about what's happening now. I saw you posting about it. What's that? Max Van Verstoppen, is he no longer a crown getter for you? This guy's a loser now? Max Van Verstappen is a loser.

1:07:48Adam Schefter:He doesn't like the car this year. He doesn't like the car. Last year either. But, I mean, Max is kind of always a potter. He's always potting. Oh, he's a potter. That's why you like him. You were his biggest fan, D-Bot.

1:07:58Pat McAfee:D-Bot, you love the Max Van Verstappen? He is. He's not about potting. You like potting, huh?

1:08:05Adam Schefter:He dominates. And they expected some shitty conditions. He was starting at P2. So, I'm like, all right, it's going to be raining. It's going to be some shit. Max has figured out. Yep. Yeah, place two is what they call it. You know he finished. You just pulled it. Did he finish in second than I would have said? No, he finished, I want to say maybe six or seven. Oh, this guy sucks. He went on a very risky strategy. Did work out. Vander Sloppy. What would that be, bud?

1:08:29Pat McAfee:Vander Sloppy. Vanver sliding down the chutes and ladders quickly, it sounds like. So this guy goes backwards instead of forwards in races now? Maybe we don't bet on him, huh? How about it? Maybe we just – maybe we quit on a leak. Where's the goal now? Maybe quit on Olsen. Where's Sir Lewis? He's getting married, allegedly. He's all caught up. When's he going to put his boots back on and get behind the wheel?

1:08:50Adam Schefter:He's still driving for Ferrari. They're up there. Mercedes dominated right now. How's Cadillac doing? McLaren, Ferrari. Yeah, how's our guys doing? It's Cadillac's first year. Look. We're ass. They're struggling. You see them down there, right above Ashton Martin. They've been around for a long time. They both got zero? How? It's tough to get points, man. The top has 180. They have zero. You can't just walk in and get points. It's the pinnacle. Cadillac has zero. So how many opportunities have they had to get points? Four races. You got to get up in the top ten to get a point.

1:09:24Pat McAfee:Oh, we're ass.

1:09:25Adam Schefter:So they're both just Cadillac. Their facility is not even done yet.

1:09:28Darius Butler:I don't know how they're supposed to win their facility. They don't have a facility.

1:09:31Pat McAfee:Okay, let's not mock anything that's happening with Cadillac. We assume they will go from Cadillac back to Cadillac at some point.

1:09:37Darius Butler:Bingo.

1:09:38Pat McAfee:Because that is what Cadillac, especially American-made cars in teams.

1:09:42Adam Schefter:How long is the Dodge deal? Dodge Ram?

1:09:45Pat McAfee:With who? With us? I don't even know. Is it still going? I'll tell you what. Cadillac, not too Chevy. First purchase was Cadillac Escalade the day I was drafted. I did not know that the money was not going to come for a few months. I almost got that thing repoed. But I'll tell you what, we were rolling, weren't we, Nick? That first day with Cadillac Escalade playing I'm So Paid by Akon. Never forget it. Those were the good old days. Those were the good old days, just flying around. Living. Living, absolutely. Cadillac, the good old days. Yeah, I think that is certainly the case. But also, if I need to run something over or pull something.

1:10:23Darius Butler:Yep, now we're talking.

1:10:24Pat McAfee:Especially out here in Indiana with some of these roads. I'm driving my Ram truck, 2500 heavy duty. You ever heard that thing? The Rebel? Yeah. The Rebel Ram, yeah. You're talking about whenever you hit that gas pedal, All you hear is a ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram, ram.

1:10:38Darius Butler:A diesel?

1:10:39Pat McAfee:That's right. No. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It can go both. You sure? Huh? You sure? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty certain about it. I mean, that's just kind of. It turns on with both. Don't look at the screen. That is kind of what I do, okay? You pulling things a lot with that? You said it could pull things. Oh, so many things. And push. I hook them right up to the, I got two balls hanging from the tail. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Tailpipe. Yeah, two of them down there. No, I don't know what your truck's talking about. I know what mine's talking about. Okay, let's talk about some things happening around the NFL.

1:11:13Pat McAfee:Malik Willis, the new face of the Miami Dolphins, was invited to go throw the opening pitch, you know, a little ceremony. Welcome to the city. Let us show you some support. He walked right out there on the mound, and I'll tell you what, hey, this is how his Dolphins career is going to go. The only thing they're going to be celebrating is that 1972 Dolphins team for the rest of my entire lives, if you know what I'm saying. Certainly a fascinating throw. I appreciate the fact that he wore a glove out there onto the mound. I assume he warmed up and lathered up. We know that stadium is electrifying, so maybe he was just a little bit juiced up to put on a show.

1:11:42Pat McAfee:AJ, your first immediate thoughts whenever you see Malik kind of airmail one to start his Miami career. I'm actually very happy to see this. I think the number one thing is you just don't want to bounce it in. Sometimes it's hard if you're not used to pitch off a mound. You fall down like that, and it brings your arm down, and boom, that thing bounces to the plate. So, absolutely, I think he was aiming to try to hit the backstop behind the catcher. Yeah, I think there is a chance. He was trying to put on a little bit of a show, showcase how strong his arm is. D, but I know you saw this as a member of the Dolpham, the Fins Up community.

1:12:11Pat McAfee:What was your first thoughts whenever you saw this Miami Dolphins quarterback not be able to complete a throw and catch?

1:12:18Adam Schefter:If I saw this a couple months ago before we start thunderballing in here and I realized how hard it is to find a strike zone, maybe had a different feeling. But I saw this, and I saw you throw it in the chat and tried to mock my quarterback. So, obviously, I went and did some research, scoured the Internet, and said, hey, great quarterbacks, shitty first pitch. And a lot came up, including the baby goat, Patrick Mahomes. What? So I saw him struggle as well. And this guy played baseball. He was on the USA Juniors. I believe he got drafted, if I'm not mistaken, to play baseball. His pops was obviously a big league pitcher for a long time.

1:12:50Adam Schefter:So if Patrick Mahomes is doing this and run off, rattled up a couple of Super Bowls, I think Willis will be just fine.

1:12:56Pat McAfee:Okay, so you're saying ipso facto if Pavlov's dogs throw it over catcher become baby goat.

1:13:02Adam Schefter:Yep. But over, too. It's important that it's over, high, like A.J. says, not bouncing. He's aggressive. That's senior behind the plate, though.

1:13:09Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, it's Patrick Mahomes, senior. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes, the second, junior.

1:13:15Adam Schefter:Yep.

1:13:15Pat McAfee:I think he is junior. Hmm. I thought he was. I think he is. I think on his –

1:13:21Adam Schefter:Man, my brain. It's got the second up here on his –

1:13:24Pat McAfee:Okay, the second, Patrick Mahomes, the second, who would obviously then request the internet to find another first pitch that he has done in the past where he threw an absolute inside strike, nibbling on the edge a little bit there. You know, Patrick Mahomes will go and have some success. I appreciate the fact that he – we put a – we had a – Brett Features on last week and I said, it feels like the first time Patrick Mahomes kind of overlooked, right? Don't it feel like that? Yeah. It really does. Not talking about it at all. Nobody really thinks much of the Chiefs. The big conversation about the Chiefs is that Travis Kelsey is coming back.

1:13:57Pat McAfee:It's not like, hey, Chiefs are going to win a Super Bowl. No. Nobody's saying Chiefs are Super Bowl bound right now. A lot of people are saying the AFC is actually brand new, let alone the AFC West, which has a lot of big-time names out there. And for me, it's just like Patrick Mahomes getting a chance to build another chip on his shoulder after he's already been a made man, already put together a Hall of Fame career. And if we know anything from listening to Tom Brady speak, whenever he retired, Drew Brees speak, whenever he retired, Peyton Manning, whenever he wrapped up, it's like they are collecting everything whenever they are trying to find their motivation to continue to go.

1:14:29Pat McAfee:And it feels like the absence of anything being said about Patrick Mahomes could certainly be a motivator for a man who's healing way ahead of schedule, they're saying, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, I think this is great. And Andy Reid has to love this, where they are in the offseason, especially heading into camp, because whenever you're riding high and things are going great, coaches, that's when they are the most nervous. Like, hey, I've got to de-recruit these guys. I've got to get on these guys every single day and make sure that they're staying with it and they're staying locked in. I think now a lot of the work is done for you because of all the – Yeah, your season didn't go very well, but it's amazing how quickly people, I guess, forget their greatness.

1:15:02So, I think, yeah, I'm looking for big things from Pat Mahomes and this whole team.

1:15:06Pat McAfee:To be clear, whenever they were winning and they were playing good during their dynasty run, they would win in ass fashions. Yeah, yeah. You know, like it wouldn't be like a massive blowout. They were notorious non-covers. They lost me so much money. Just the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I would just get into a microphone. Are the Chiefs still in Kansas? Yeah. Do the Chiefs still have Andy Reid? Yeah. Do they still have – yeah, then the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I would take them every single week. And they would lose me money every single week because they never covered. But the covering and the spread was always on what we thought of the Chiefs, which was a team that would always win, which they would.

1:15:47Pat McAfee:They would inevitably win. There would be some third down in the fourth quarter where Patrick Mahomes would hit Travis Kelsey. There would be some miraculous play that would take place. They were a must-watch. Mahomes in and of himself is a must-watch, but they would very rarely blow people out. So that obviously led to people, especially if you're winning all the time, saying, oh, the football gods are blessing these guys. They're just getting lucky. They're actually not that good. And then once they do have a season where they are ass and he gets hurt, everybody comes out and said the signs were there, the signs were there that they were never really that good, and that's not what the Chiefs get a chance to kind of work off of.

1:16:16Darius Butler:Yeah, I think a lot of it is a lot of the you're not hearing Chiefs talk. I don't hear any anti-Patrick Mahomes talk, though. Like, it's always the O-line stinks. He's been their leading rusher, whatever, the past few years. They haven't been able to run the ball at all. The weapons when Rasheed Rice is not in there are not great. Travis is getting old, blah, blah, blah. So it's not like – I don't think it's an anti-Patrick thing. It's just an anti-like, hey, he just hasn't been the Superman the last couple years that he has been the years before being able to carry a team that may have flaws.

1:16:48Pat McAfee:Okay, let's go from Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs not getting talked about enough to something else that got talked about a lot. and it should. You see Peyton Manning shotgunning beers up there with Josh Heupel? Do you see Joey Aguiar up there shotgunning some beers with Luke Holmes? Now, Luke Holmes, notorious great shotgunner of beer. Yep. He inhales that thing. Puts it down. I mean, he sucks that beer out of the bottom of that hole. Now, shotgun is obviously a science experiment to get a beer out of a can quicker. You got an intake hole. You got an outlet hole. You got some gravity working with you and also air pressure kind of working for you.

1:17:19So that beer can shotgun literally out of that can into your gullet.

1:17:24Pat McAfee:Luke Combs, notoriously good shotgun taker of beer, has actually done it so often and so well that some people say, this guy's got to have gimmicked cans. He's got to have no beer inside of there. That actually leads to him throwing cans at people, saying, hey, why don't you go ahead and come on and dance if you want to. Peyton Manning loves a nice cold beer. We know that. Yes, he does. He loves a nice cold beer. He went ahead and chugged one. Hypo, we assume he can delete some beers. Yeah. We watch him in front of 100 ,000 plus with Luke Holmes do just as such. Aguiar's up there doing his thing.

1:17:54Pat McAfee:It's like I love what these musicians are doing with these college tours because a lot of these college stadiums, I assume, aren't necessarily built for a world-class show taking over the entire place. Now, granted, Neyland Stadium here is outrageously nice. It is beautiful. It is upgraded. It's 114 ,000, I think, 113 ,000. I forget, 108 ,000, whatever it is. thousand people but i like this happening in a showcase of the college sports communities coming together we obviously have seen them over the past couple weeks we hope that will continue zach bryan did michigan 114 000 people or something like that it's unbelievable what's going on and uh i like the boys chugging beers and having a good time out there aj yeah it's great but i mean can we get someone to walk out with morgan wallen in vegas what's going on man he's so upset who Two to five people that bailed on this guy.

1:18:44Pat McAfee:I don't know. And why would you? You know, it had to be a scheduling thing. Yeah, or a magician. Trick went wrong. I was lucky. I was potentially. And maybe somebody was there. It was just invisible. Yeah. There you go. You never know. Maybe you didn't even know. Maybe somebody got bored there. You got some flaky ass people in this town. I do love that. I like that he called it out, too, anytime that takes place.

1:19:06Adam Schefter:Vegas, baby.

1:19:06Pat McAfee:I'd like to let Morgan, though, though, hey, the solo dolo walkout, I think, hits pretty good, too. Also plays. I was very lucky to be a part of one of the first ones alongside Tyrese Halliburton. That's a good time, man. I mean, that is good. Watching him kind of go through his process before the concert. Like, Coach Saban did it down there in Tuscaloosa with Morgan just a few weeks back. I'll be excited to get Coach Saban's thoughts on Morgan's pre-show kind of routine. Because there is exercise, workout group. Like, there is, like, I believe a routine. Because he's sprinting that stadium basically throughout his show as he continues to go there.

1:19:40Pat McAfee:So, yeah, it's cool, man. It's an incredible thing. He's in Indianapolis this weekend. I can't wait to see who comes out. What's that? Lucas Oil? Yeah, he's in Lucas Oil. Sold out a couple of times. Guy sells out everywhere. Yeah. Luke Combs selling out$100 ,000. Tickets are not cheap. There it is. Yeah, this is the early days of this thing, I think. I'm not 100 % sure how many there were. That was fun. Dude, he's, hey. Has anyone ever tripped? I don't think anybody's ever tripped, but there's been somebody that's got hit with something, right? Didn't something happen? I don't know. It's an incredible, you know, it's classic wrestling, but also it's a great way to fill time.

1:20:15Pat McAfee:He also, him and Theo Vaughn, I think for his most recent tour, put together an entire sketch basically about turning on the stage. I think he's really smart because how do you keep people so entertained that are in the top rows whenever you're just by yourself? You know, this is like a professional wrestling question. Like, how do you entertain everybody in the top whenever you're a ring down here in the middle? So the entire spectacle is a rather big piece of the puzzle and also like kind of moving around. the way these musicians have been able to captivate stadiums, very, very fascinating. Because the sophistication of their shows, I believe, if you were to look at them over the last 10 years, has really evolved, you know, with everything they're trying to do.

1:20:52Pat McAfee:I mean, we went to Taylor Swift down at Lucas Oil Stadium. That entire thing was insane. You were a part of the show, you know? Like, how do you kind of make the show, oh, you've got to be like a part of it. Immersive, right? It's like an immersive situation, almost like the sphere, but not the sphere. Exactly. Like, you kind of have to treat it that way, especially with how big these stadiums are. It's like, I think they've done a great job.

1:21:10Darius Butler:The Luke one, he did a great job because it's right in the middle of the football field and it's a circle stage and the stage spins the entire time. So the entire crowd gets to see him the whole time. It's not like you're in one end zone, so everyone in this end zone is super far away. Being in the middle, like, it was like, there wasn't like a bad seat in the house type thing.

1:21:25Pat McAfee:Who was it? Dane Cook that started the circle stage for comedians in the arenas or whatever because he was so big? It was like that into what it is now with Chappelle and Shane and like everybody does it and how they operate it is, it's a wonderful thing watching people kind of do their job. And Morgan fills the place up. Oh, yeah. I mean, he fills it up. And he can play for four hours. A lot of songs. Just one album. How long is the album? Oh, 10 hours. How many songs do you have? 30 number ones on this one song. It's like, on this one album. It's like, this guy's outrageous. This weekend should be a great time.

1:21:59Pat McAfee:Tonight, second round of the playoffs continues to brew. Blue. Sixers at Knicks, 8 o 'clock on Peacock and NBC. Timberwolves, Spurs, 9.30 on NBC and Peacock. I'm excited to see how the boys do out here. I'm excited to see who shows up. I'm excited to see Wemby continue to, you know, try to dominate a league in which he's supposed to be the next chosen one. Is his time now or is he still a year or two out? We shall see if he can get past the second round.

1:22:28Darius Butler:It'll be interesting to see because in the first round, we talked about it before the first round started because we talked about the regular season and how it was kind of lopsided and we said, well, normally the playoffs is great, but the first round sometimes not so great. That was not the case. Dogs were 24-30 straight up. So, yes, favorites won the first round of the playoffs, but dogs being that close, they were plus 18 units if you just took the dogs in every single game. So we'll see if that continues. Yes, the Spurs are huge, huge favorites. That's probably because of the injuries. But Sean said Ant's trying to go tonight, so we'll see what happens in that situation.

1:22:58Darius Butler:It has gone from 13.5 to 11.5 with the speculation that Ant may play tonight, so we'll see there. And then the Sixers being that big of a dog is kind of interesting after they just knocked out the best team in the East, them being seven-and-a-half point favorites or dogs to the Knicks is an interesting one to watch tonight as well. Do you like that line, Colin? I like all the underdog lines. I hate, especially right now, that they even have 13-and-a-half up for the Spurs if Ant-Man is going to play for the T-Wolves. This timing is what really grinds my gears, okay? Normally, I get it. Okay, you start one at 7, you start the other at 9.30.

1:23:33There's no overlap. If we're getting overlap, like we are here, I want to watch Wemby. I want to watch every single –

1:23:39Pat McAfee:You can't have overlap. There's a huge overlap here. It's 8 o 'clock at 9.30. It could be 7. It should be 7 and 9.30 if we're going off the front. Are we right? Is the graphic right? I am 90 % sure, yes. Yes. And this can't happen. One's Peacock, one's Big NBC or what? No, they're both Peacock. It's weird because YouTube TV has some of the games that are NBC. It doesn't make any sense, but they shouldn't have this. And if they do have it, then just run them at the same time. Like how many times is one of the playoff games, especially in basketball, a 20 point blowout? And then the other one ends up being a real tight game down to the last couple of minutes.

1:24:14You know how the last couple of minutes are. It ends up being a 10 point game either way. But Wemby is so fun to watch to put him at 930 is just a disservice to the East Coast, the United States of America. And I am sick of it because I do want to watch the whole thing. I mean, it happened last night with Wild Avalanche. That game starts at 9. It's over before midnight. That's perfect. We can handle that. We'd still like it to start at 8.30, but can deal with it being at 9. That 9.30, you would think a half hour makes no difference. Oh, the second half, it's over.

1:24:47Pat McAfee:Makes a difference. Halftime comes. That's a lot of downtime. Yeah, and by then it's 11.15. I'll tell you, I start doing one of these, laying on the bed, and all of a sudden I wake up, it's the end of the third. Where are we at? It's the playoff. Oh, it's the end of the fourth. Oh, my God, this really matters right now. I miss so much. Oh, what time is it? 12.30. What the – why is this – that's how it is. And they have no reason to put that game at night. Like, sure, I get it, central time, whatever the hell you want to argue you want to make with time. It's an illusion either way. They just need to have the timings of the games make some sense for everybody.

1:25:28Time is an illusion, AJ.

1:25:29Pat McAfee:Let's expand upon that, shall we? Let's explore that space. What do you think that means? I would love to know. What does anything mean, actually, Pat? Oh, no. Now we're getting even deeper in here.

1:25:40Adam Schefter:That's a fair statement because I'll tell you what, since COVID, my concept of time has completely changed. What do you mean? I don't know. Like three months, it just feels completely different than, say, 2018.

1:25:51Pat McAfee:Okay, so my daughter is 1 ,095 days old. Okay, that is such an interesting timeline that has taken place. You're saying post-COVID. It has really changed how you view everything. Oh, yeah. When was the draft? Two years ago? You see what I'm saying?

1:26:05Adam Schefter:Especially with the run, the run that we've kind of been on.

1:26:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, exactly.

1:26:09Adam Schefter:It was mania. A year ago.

1:26:12Pat McAfee:50 Cent, Tony A.O. He wished me happy birthday. Tony A.O. Tony. Good guy. I was so pumped up about that. I was like, I need young me to find out about this. The idea that time is an illusion stems from modern physics, particularly Einstein's relativity, which suggests the universe is a 4D block where past, present, and future exist simultaneously.

1:26:30Darius Butler:Shut up, Einstein.

1:26:31Pat McAfee:Time doesn't flow fundamentally. Rather, our consciousness creates the perception of a linear progression, while physics shows events simply correlate, making the now subjective. Wow. Wow, I wish Einstein was here so I could say, what, dude? Now is right now. We're all here, bro.

1:26:47Darius Butler:He actually didn't die that long ago. I was really shocked when I watched that movie. Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer. It really shocked me that Einstein was still involved. Can we just put the Spurs at 830? That's all I'm asking.

1:26:59Pat McAfee:Sun Tzu? See, that's what we got to talk about. Rest in peace, Sun Tzu, by the way. He's like a Galileo guy. Yeah. Black and white photos only of Albert Einstein. Those could have certainly been portraits. You could have got me. Him popping up in Oppenheimer by the water there. What's he doing here? That looks like Einstein. Looks like Han Solo's dad. Watching that movie. That surely looks like Einstein right there, doesn't it? Yeah, it was. Did he time travel here? Did everybody look like Einstein back then? Why is this? Why are they calling him Albert? Oh, that's actually Einstein. It's crazy.

1:27:28Pat McAfee:Holy shit. Yeah, Mr. Steve. Man, he was really disappointed in Oppenheimer. Einstein? Yeah. He was so disappointed in Oppenheimer. You don't think they offered me this type of thing? Yeah. Geez, Einstein. I didn't know. I think he was scared for him. Yeah, and he knew that E definitely equaled MC squared. That was a big part of it. It certainly was. Think about the big brains of the past. Oh, my God. Were they viewed like that back then when they were alive, though? Oh, yeah. That's what I wanted. Oh, yeah. I assume they got a lot of hate, though. Like, now you just hear Einstein and you think, like, oh, super genius.

1:27:59Was everybody thinking that back then? A lot of it was secret, too, right? Like, a lot of the things were classified. Well, and does... Well, for the bomb.

1:28:07Pat McAfee:Does only his banger survive, though, like everything else? You know, like, as we look back on musicians, we only remember their heat. We don't remember the drops that were absolutely terrible. Like, do we only know Einstein for his hits? And did he have a bunch of misses in real time?

1:28:21Darius Butler:Yeah, he originally thought he was just MC. Yeah. Idiot.

1:28:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, and then he had to come out and everybody was like, I hate this guy.

1:28:26Darius Butler:Yeah.

1:28:27Pat McAfee:I hate this. I'm sick of this math guy. I'm sick and tired of it. Or do you think he was loved the entire time? Well, I feel like math, like, with the musician comparison, musicians release a bunch. I feel like math, especially math guys like Einstein, like, I think his whole life was damn near three things. Oh, you think E equals MC squared? Took up a lot of time? You think he kind of disappeared into the world? of math, and then he came back with, I have a new one. You think that's how it works? And it takes like five years. So it's five years of doing one, and then it's probably a year of like, I need to get back to it.

1:28:58Pat McAfee:Did he send smoke up like a pope, you know? Like, hey, shit, Einstein's got another one.

1:29:02Adam Schefter:Maybe. It's more like Adele. They're speaking to musicians. Yeah, you're right. Drop here. Bangers only. A few years and just boom.

1:29:09Pat McAfee:And maybe smoke too, because I think she actually did somehow. She loved ripping a good doll. Yeah, Einstein did the big 10-minute naps. He never slept for like hours at a time. He did the nap thing. I got algoed into listening to a sleep expert. Okay. Are you a whoop band? How do you know what's good for everybody, I guess, in this entire thing? He said what he tells people who don't have a lot of time, chug a coffee, take a 25-minute nap, wake up, you're back to life. Right after the coffee? You chug the coffee, turn yourself off. Make you nice and warm, yeah. What? Put you to sleep nice and warm, yeah.

1:29:45Pat McAfee:Well, he said, I sit down, actually.

1:29:47Darius Butler:Nick Rowe's been doing this for a decade.

1:29:50Pat McAfee:But how do you just turn the lights off on yourself? I almost want to comment underneath, like, okay, chug a coffee, and then do I just tell myself to go to sleep right now?

1:29:57Darius Butler:That's always been my argument. We would be out day drinking, and Nick would come. We'd take a break, and he'd chug a coffee and say, like, all right, I'm going to take a 25-minute nap. I'm like, how does that happen?

1:30:05Pat McAfee:So it's actually called a nappuccino. It acts as a high-efficiency power-up where caffeine kicks in just as you wake from a 20-minute nap, reducing grogginess and maximizing alertness. I'll tell you what, I'll take two Nappuccinos tomorrow, and I'll take a couple of Nappuccinos the next day. Do you know somebody who maybe took a Nappuccino or two in the process of building a Goliath in the sports and entertainment world? A man who had a vision for a gimmick baseball team, when I assume a lot of people were not believers, just had thoughts of something that could become a 102, 103 ,000 ticket seller down in Texas on a regular basis.

1:30:48Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the founder of the Savannah Bananas, who just had a massive weekend at Texas A &M, hundred-some thousand tickets on gimmick baseball. Unbelievable. It is truly preposterous. Yes, it is. What has been accomplished, ladies and gentlemen, Yellow Talks' Jesse, Jesse Cole. Yay!

1:31:13Jesse Cole:What's up, guys?

1:31:15Pat McAfee:Okay, so can you please tell me how you go from, if the story is right, I tried to Google as much information as I possibly could, so I'm kind of being held hostage by whatever they decide to show me about your story. But I did read, in debt, over a million bucks,$1.7 million. You sell your house, you and your wife sleeping on a mattress on the floor, basically, with your visions of what this could all be. How many years ago was that? And do you have the visions at that point of selling out Texas A &M, 100 and some thousand tickets for a gimmick baseball? Like, how big did your dream and believe in where you're at now?

1:31:51Pat McAfee:How can you describe it?

1:31:53Jesse Cole:Well, at first, our goal was just to make baseball fun. We were a college summer baseball team when we started. And we only sold, you know, two tickets in our first three months. So that's when we had to sell our house, empty out our savings account, sleeping on an airbed. But, yeah, we believe we can make the game fun, more entertainment, more excitement and make the game faster. And so, yeah, we I mean, we start with the bananas. We had a male cheerleading team, the Mananas, the Dad Bod cheerleading squad, the Banana Nana senior citizen dance team. But more than anything, the players were all in on celebrating, dancing and having fun.

1:32:21Jesse Cole:And after a few years, you know, we were selling out games, but fans were still leaving games early. And that's when we said we have to change the rules and create a new game. And back in 2020, we played our first ever banana ball game. You know, with a two-hour time limit, you win the inning, you get a point. No bunting because bunting sucks if you bunch or thrown out of the game. Fans catching foul balls for an out. We've added all these new rules and just took it on the road with a bigger dream then. But went from one city world tour to now playing in front of 3.4 million fans this year and 102 ,000 on Saturday.

1:32:49Pat McAfee:Jeez, congratulations on it all. Obviously having the fortitude to continue to go forward whenever everything is seemingly against you. And to believe in yourself is obviously a great story for future generations to listen to and experience. So you're a content-driven company. Would you describe yourself? How do you describe it? Are you a live event company? Are you a content-driven company? And who do you find are most interested? Because I think you and the Dude Perfect crossover seems like a perfect demo match and also a massive home run, not only in Texas A &M, but probably anywhere you go, right?

1:33:19Pat McAfee:That's very similar markets.

1:33:21Jesse Cole:Yeah, we're a live entertainment company. We obsess over the fan experience. So fans start showing up at 2 o 'clock for a 7 o 'clock game. There were 40 ,000 people in the plaza four hours before the game. So we do a show from 2 o 'clock. The fans are out there meeting fans at 2 o 'clock, live show in front, live show afterwards. We sign to the last fan. We are obsessed. But, yeah, it's really the sport of banana ball. You know, people have compared us to the Globetrotters, but the sport of banana ball is what we're most proud of. There are six teams competing to go to the Banana Bowl championship, and it's unbelievably competitive.

1:33:50Jesse Cole:I mean, we had 23 trick plays on Saturday night, six home runs. They're trying to compete and win every show, but we're also trying to put on a lot of entertainment nonstop.

1:33:59Pat McAfee:The Texas tailgaters ran into it with Reese, who's the football stadium home run king, I'll have you know. I think, I don't know if you saw the other day, I caught one of your guys' games on ESPN too. Congratulations on getting your shit licensed on ESPN for even bigger appeal, not just digitally, but also linear reach. I mean, you're doing fantastic. We will follow along and watch your next business move as you continue to go all in in this particular sphere, by the way. So I appreciate you doing what you're doing there. But football stadiums, how do you pick and choose where you're headed? Because Texas A &M, Kyle Field, obviously historic, legendary place for college ball, fills up for you.

1:34:38Pat McAfee:Do you feel like you fill up anywhere? Or like what are the best places for Savannah? Because you came here, Indianapolis, filled up immediately. I think you sold out three times if you needed to. Are you everywhere right now, or how do you kind of view where you're selling these places?

1:34:52Jesse Cole:Yeah, we're in 45 states, 75 stadiums. Every single team has sold out. We have 4.2 million people on the wait list. And, yeah, with football stadiums, you know, we started with Clemson last year, the first college stadium, and sold 81 ,000 tickets in the environment with Davo Sweeney and C.J. Spiller coming back. And just the atmosphere was electric. We're like, we've got to do these college football stadiums. And then, you know, also with the NFL, we did the Superdome, and Drew Brees came in. And just there's these great moments that we can create. a competitive environment. So, yeah, we've heard from numerous stadiums, over 100 ,000.

1:35:22Jesse Cole:We've still got – we've got Neyland Stadium, University of Tennessee, in three weeks. There's going to be 101 ,000. That's completely sold out. Boise State for the party animals, headliner, and the blue field, that's going to be a lot of fun. University of Oregon. So just – you mix these worlds. College football is known for the atmosphere. Pat, you know this better than anyone. But now you put in our show with nonstop music and performances, plus trick plays, backflip catches, it's a great marriage, and we're having fun at these college football stadiums.

1:35:46Pat McAfee:It's a beautiful thing. Obviously, if people are getting introduced to sports in this manner, we love it. If they're just enjoying sports in this manner, we love it. I appreciate the fact that you went out there and did it. Now, in your business story, there's probably a climax moment or two. Go ahead, D-Bud.

1:36:00Adam Schefter:Yeah, Jess, you're talking about filling stadiums, you know, 100 ,000 plus. Now, when was the moment, if you can go back a little bit, when you really knew, like, okay, we've arrived? When was that moment? What was the venue? Kind of what was the year?

1:36:13Jesse Cole:Well, if you knew me and our organization, we've never arrived. You know, we're just getting started. And that's the mindset. And I believe that. We're going to take this all over the world. People think it's just a circus, just a show. These guys can play and do things that people have never done before in a baseball field. So I still haven't felt that. But for me, growing up south of Boston, always a dream to play at Fenway Park, play professionally. When we went to Fenway Park and sold that out and watched the whole stadium turn yellow, that was pretty special. But now, you know, every night, as big as this game was, guys, we did a pop-up game on Thursday in front of only 1 ,000 fans.

1:36:42Jesse Cole:And we didn't tell anybody. We went to a high school and surprised fans and created moments people never seen. Like, I love creating those fans' first moments that people have never experienced. That's where this all comes into play. Where can we play Dex? You never know. We could be on a beach. We could be on aircraft.

1:36:56Pat McAfee:I'm excited for your promotional brain to continue to do absurd things. I just want to let you know that. I am excited to see what you come up with, brother. There's a few of them in the history. Big-time promoters. Obviously, you are a promoter. That is what you are. With baseball being kind of your venue and how you do this, you're hitting on all cylinders, man. We got Stiltz guy home run. Yep. Daisy Duke pitcher with cowboy boots. Obviously awesome. The ninja umpire, the dancing umpire, all this shit. And I don't know what your brainstorming room is like. I don't know when or how you come about getting your ideas or whatever, but that in of itself is probably its own show that I would like to watch, brother.

1:37:36Pat McAfee:I'd like to see your process and coming up with all this shit. And then how you think it's going to go over versus how it actually goes over and adjusting on the fly and all of it. I really respect what you've got going on.

1:37:45Jesse Cole:Thank you. My question for you is, I mean, again, we're always trying to do things that have never happened before in sports. Where do you think we should play? Where would be somewhere crazy or something wild or something we should do that would shock people? That's a good one. That's a good one. The moon. The moon, yes. That's what we've talked about for a few years. That's going to take a few years. What else? Okay, so. I mean, Times Square would be cool.

1:38:04Darius Butler:Times Square would be sick.

1:38:05Pat McAfee:You can rent it out. We learned that with boxing.

1:38:07Darius Butler:They don't care about dimensions, which is cool. Like, obviously, these football fields dimensions are.

1:38:11Pat McAfee:Lucas Oil Stadium would show up for you. Oh, that'd be wild. If you did Lucas Oil Stadium.

1:38:15Jesse Cole:Central Park, New York City. That would be interesting.

1:38:17Pat McAfee:That would be sweet. Yeah. So we're thinking of large patches of grass.

1:38:21Darius Butler:I just saw Shakira did$2 million on a beach. So you mentioned the beach. The beach. Well, it'd be tough for the Banana Boys, though, to run on the sand.

1:38:28Pat McAfee:Yeah. Especially the boot scooter. He's going to be in a little bit of trouble out there.

1:38:33Jesse Cole:We'd send the coconuts. That's our newest team, the coconuts. They'd be all over the beach.

1:38:37Pat McAfee:How many teams you got total? Six?

1:38:39Jesse Cole:We got six teams, yeah, in the league. The Indian Ball Championship League.

1:38:41Pat McAfee:Let's go clowns. Yeah, the Indianapolis Clowns obviously coming in a big way. How do you feel about the cosmic baseball that's happening as well?

1:38:48Jesse Cole:Hey, anything that can make the game fun, man. We're supportive of it. I mean, we're just trying to bring more people out. And, you know, they're doing a great job. And I think we all win. And it's an abundance mindset. And the more people that are bringing out kids and families to have fun, that's a win, man.

1:39:00Pat McAfee:Love it. As baseball continues to go and your league continues to produce great baseball. It only works if there's good baseball players. Go ahead, Tone.

1:39:08Darius Butler:Yeah, Jesse, you talked about how good the players actually are. One of the cool stories earlier in the season, Tristan Peters used to play for the Savannah Bananas, is now playing on the White Sox. I believe he's hitting like 284 for the White Sox. So, like, I think a lot of people think that it's like not actually talented baseball players, but they are, right? They're some of the best baseball players in the world, correct?

1:39:26Jesse Cole:Well, yeah. Look at Jackie Bradley Jr., World Series champion all-star, full-time player with the Clowns. He hit for the cycle the other night. We got guys, you know, first-round picks, second-round picks. They can play, and now they're just learning how to do unbelievable trick plays and performances and putting it together. And that's why, man, it's so great. You know, we created this a bunch of us, but I get to sit back and be a fan and watch things every night and just be like, I can't believe that just happened. And that's what's exciting about it. Nothing surprises. I mean, we get surprised every single night, and that's what's crazy.

1:39:54Pat McAfee:Live events, obviously. AJ has the last question for you here, Jesse. Yeah, Jesse, I'm curious. Like, when you're acquiring new talent, I guess, first of all, what's the process like trying to find guys that are very talented baseball players but also, like, entertainers and big personalities? And do you set expectations when they sign? because I'm thinking like, hey, we have a pop-up show on Thursday. I thought I'm just here playing Kyle Field. I don't want to. I'm tired. I don't want to go over here and play a game for 1 ,000 people. How do you deal with those kind of things?

1:40:17Jesse Cole:Well, we're fortunate. When you join us, you know what it's about. It's about fans first. You know, the reason we're here, the reason we get to play in front of record-breaking crowds is because we put the fans first, and we're the first ones signing autographs and meeting them, and we're on all the time. But, yeah, it was hard. At first, guys, no one wanted to play for us. I mean, it was impossible. But now, you know, we have thousands of guys, thousands of players and that are reaching out and it's it's amazing to see because they know they have to be fans first they know we have to perform but I mean we're getting like Derek Klenna Broadway one of the best Broadway performers ever he played college ball at UCLA back with Garrett Cole Trevor Bauer and so now he's bringing that world together so when you can mix the worlds of entertainment and sports together man it's fun to watch I'm trying to

1:40:55Pat McAfee:start I'm trying to start being accurate with throwing yeah I'm trying yeah we're ready for you an indie man you put on a show i well yeah i would like the show to be one that doesn't look ass i've seen it you know we saw tino yeah tino martinez that was awesome good i want that that was cool saw russell wilson get gunned out after a guy goes in between the legs these guys are throwing 93 miles an hour 94 miles an hour it's not easy that's what i'm saying i need to practice breeze got screwed too yeah backflip was that the backflip catch which one was the backflip We don't need that. Who did that?

1:41:29Jesse Cole:Yeah, yeah. They'll make you look bad with a trick play. That's what they do.

1:41:33Pat McAfee:They'll moss the shit out of you. That's what they do. Everybody, you know, because you get a little people older than what maybe your demo is. Because I assume your demo is what it is, right? We all see what it is. And then they're parents. And they love it. I think these people really enjoy their lives whenever they're watching Savannah Banana Baseball and everything like that. So you've got some people that are like, I hate it. It's corny or whatever. It's like, I'm baseball. This is bad for baseball. It's like, all right, go out there.

1:41:56Darius Butler:You got a pitcher out there actually cooking while also doing a full

1:42:03Pat McAfee:xanthrofane and then stepping on a mound. 100%. 88 or whatever. It's like, these guys are unbelievable at baseball. I didn't know there was this much talent in the baseball world. I enjoy what you're doing. I appreciate what you're doing. And keep trailblazing, brother. Can't wait to watch what you do next.

1:42:20Jesse Cole:I appreciate you guys.

1:42:22Pat McAfee:Lazy Jum, that's Jesse Cole.

1:42:23Jesse Cole:Yay, Jesse!

1:42:25Pat McAfee:They're going to do docks and classes about him.

1:42:27Darius Butler:Oh, yeah.

1:42:29Pat McAfee:Anybody that does the whole mattress gimmick, one point some million in debt belief, two tickets, he has that. We sold two tickets the first season. We were there. It's like, yeah, that's part of the whole story. For three months. It's like seven bucks production. Yeah, I want to see that, dog. What's that? That documentary, seven bucks as well, though. That's crazy. Yeah, you know, seven bucks, all the storyline. Two tickets is another one. Fans first. Seven bucks. Yeah. Yeah, I only had$7. Yeah, we saw the show. Seven bucks in mana, baby. That's right. 100%. We're going to have a goat joining us here in a matter of moments.

1:43:01Pat McAfee:I believe there is some technical difficulties happening behind the scenes there. That tends to happen. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the Olympic gold medalist. An 18-time LPGA champion. A three-time major winner. fresh off of back-to-backs, ladies and gentlemen, Nellie Korda. Yay! How are you, Nellie? Hi. How are you? Thanks for having me. Thank you for joining us. Anytime we get a chance to chit-chat with goats of their sport, which you certainly are on the trajectory of being, and you can be humble and modest if you want to, but we will speak the truth for you, we are lucky and thankful to do so, especially coming off of back-to-backs.

1:43:43Pat McAfee:How are we feeling? We're swinging well right now. Hey, we're hitting the ball well right now, Nellie. Is that where we're feeling? My whoop says I'm in the red, so I'm feeling great today. Oh, celebration. Okay, we got after it a little bit last year. I did just end in Mexico, so I may have had a shot of tequila and a margarita. Why? Maybe a little Corona. Why? Yeah, I read your answer where I believe it was reported that you were the only top 10 player that was in Mexico fresh off of a major, the Chevron Championship, which was your third major win a week before. And you said something about, like, the resort's beautiful, the food is amazing, the course, wonderful.

1:44:24Pat McAfee:My fiance and I just came down here, lived our life. You win that tournament, okay? So let's talk about you winning a major one week and then you enjoying life winning. Are you, now, you're obviously a stone-cold killer in this entire thing, but do you feel as if you're playing your best golf right now? And what is it about your game that you can feel is really on whenever you're playing your best? honestly I just feel like I'm living my best life uh I think that correlates to maybe my on course play um you know it's it is funny like going from a major to a tournament the next week like Mexico I think was the best transition because Monday I sat by the pool coconut like it was I was literally living my best life but I had to like remind myself on Tuesday I'm like I'm here to work I need to get my butt into gear.

1:45:14But I think I'm just kind of like, I've said it many times. I'm like, I'm living my best life. Like I'm having so much fun on the golf course, but I think it came because last year was a really hard year for me. I didn't win at all. I came off of a year that I won seven times. And I think I'm just maturing and like realizing that I need to really enjoy these moments. It's not going to last forever. So in a way that so many legends have told me to smell the roses. And this week, I actually have time to smell the roses.

1:45:48Pat McAfee:OK, well, congratulations on getting to that point in your mind. I know that's a freeing feeling, I would assume, especially for the top of the top, whenever it comes to competitive spirit. You talked about having a bad season following having a good season. You said living your life and enjoying it is a big piece of the recovery. I assume you're beating yourself down pretty good last year. And how do you kind of work your way out of that, actually? Because we talked to Michaela Schifrin, who had a bad Olympics bouncing back on the other side. Obviously, every NFL guy has had a terrible season and had to bounce back.

1:46:17Pat McAfee:For you, what was it like going through that journey? And is this the first time, because all we've known of you is like being dominant. Is this like the first time that you really had to kind of journey through those waters of maybe doubt or change or anything like that? Definitely not. I mean, every season has a different story. You know, I won my first major in 2021. I won the Olympics that year. And then I didn't really have, I didn't really back it up until 2024 again. So I always have, I think it's always just a roller coaster, sports. I mean, they humble you in every possible way. And for me, what's important, I feel like a lot of athletes, what I've seen is that they try to reinvent the wheel.

1:47:02Like they try and do something different. They try to change everything just because it's not working. And I stayed with the same people on my team. I have the same caddy. I have the same physio, like no matter what happened, like the same people were riding it out with me. And that like gave me a sense of comfort that, okay, I can definitely get through this. Like we're all in this together. And that no matter what, like I've seen so many athletes bounce back and just, it doesn't mean that I can't do it. Like I can do it as well. So I think I just was more of like trying to have a mindset change where it's like I get into a situation that I'm like, OK, I'm screwed here.

1:47:42Where back in the past, I'd be like, oh, God, here we go again. Like I'm in a divot. I left myself the worst possible spot. And now I'm like, I'll figure it out. Like it's not the end. It's not the end of the world. I'm not just going to pick up my stuff and walk off the golf course. Like I'll figure it out. I'll move on. And my dad always said growing up, he's like, just play golf. Like, you find the ball, you hit it again. You find the ball, you hit it again.

1:48:08Pat McAfee:Things are nice whenever it's simple. You know, it would be nice to have your swing too, bro. Perfect. Your swing is unbelievable. Ridiculous. We obviously, having you on the program today has forced us all to learn more about you, which we should have done years ago. We'd like to let you know that. You turned pro at 17, 27 now. life as a pro for basically a majority of your, you know, adult life now at this point. It's like you're a legend, but what we did quickly learn is all the slow-mo shots of your swing. Outrageous. Okay, I have a daughter, Mackenzie. She turned three today. She's turned three.

1:48:43Pat McAfee:Happy birthday. I would tell her you said that. She will look up to you, Nelly. Hopefully, we will have a golf swing that we can potentially work on. When did you start, and are you ever changing your swing? Have you had the same swing your whole life? Oh my gosh, if you guys look at my swing from like 2013, you would be like, oh, that is so gross. I give like a big shout out to my coach, David Whelan. He is the one that built my swing. And also my dad and my parents, they spent so many hours with me just working on tempo. Like that is the one thing that they ingrained in my brain. And my dad always referred to as like Coca, Cola, Coca, Cola.

1:49:28So that was like the key. It was super simple, but it was like the key to having a very fluid. But there's been so many times. I mean, like I see all the smallest of pieces in my swing. Like I see it if it's laid off or if I'm a little bent over or if I'm a little too tall. But I always revert back to the same tendencies. I think so many golfers, athletes will tell you, especially because golf is so technical that you always revert back to your old tendencies. And like right now, what I'm working on, I think the biggest thing that I changed from last year actually is I have higher shoes. So I'm trying to actually get closer to the ground with my chest.

1:50:10And with that being, I actually get a little bit deeper in my swing and I hinge it a little faster. So it's just, it's literally like the smallest of things. But yeah, I mean, golfers are crazy. I'm crazy just to let you know. I think you have to be.

1:50:27Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, I'm crazy. And my swing is what we like to classify as ass. So I'm trying to learn anything I possibly can. All I know, I was invited down to the Masters first time ever. It was beautiful. There was an event where there was a golf coach at it from Iowa. And he put me through a couple of drills. He was going to make me a scratch golfer. And every drill was basically look like Nelly looks. That's what I realized from, put your head on a brick wall, don't move it. Okay, don't move the brick wall. Let's go ahead and forward lean in that tire thing. Go ahead and load up on your back foot.

1:50:54Pat McAfee:You should be able to lift your left foot, but you shouldn't do that, obviously. Get into the slot. Turn that. You have the perfect swing. I just want to let you know that. That's fantastic. It'd be really cool to have that for my daughter. And what I'm hearing you say is you always go back to your tendencies. Her first time learning, we got to get a good one. Yeah, yeah. We got to get a good dog. We got to get a good coach in there. We got to get a good base. Coca-Cola. Coca? Yeah, exactly. coca-cola i mean you've had a couple weeks to work on it since the masters like let what's your

1:51:21Darius Butler:swing update is it working look like where's the club they still come out of the pocket no i want

1:51:27Pat McAfee:to let you know i have not played a single time since uh but if i was to get out there i think i'm getting that thing and i want to do this nelly nobody wants me to do it i want to go here here here right to there that's what i want to do get it right in this club i mean there have there has There's been players that have paused at the top. I mean, you look at Mr. Hovland. He's had a pause at the top. Cam Young. Cam Young, is he good? I don't know. He stops that thing right here. He doesn't put it directly in front of his forehead before he takes it back. Well, it doesn't matter how I get there.

1:52:02Pat McAfee:You get there, you get there. It kind of does, though. That's kind of what she's saying it does. Swing your swing. Swing your swing. Boom. I have been, Nelly, and I'm asked. I need a new one. I need to build a brand new one. Boom. So as long as I get there, I think that's all that really matters. Because I'm going to be honest, Nellie, I don't think I'm ever going to get your swing. I don't think that's ever going to happen. Hopefully. I have been working on it since I was two years old. True. It's the worst. My daughter's late. Oh, my God, we got to get her to work ASAP. Speaking of, I need to be a better dad.

1:52:34Pat McAfee:Go ahead, D-Buzz.

1:52:35Adam Schefter:Speaking of, you started, too, this research. So both your parents are professional tennis players. I know your sister is a golfer as well. How did you get to golf and not tennis? especially starting that early? I was actually really that annoying little sister that wanted to do everything Big Sis did. Yeah, I think I just fell in love with it because it was a sport that all of us could do together. You know, tennis is just so one-on-one. And I think with golf also, people may not realize it, but it doesn't matter how good or bad you are. You guys can all go on the golf course and share the range together, go out on the golf course and play around.

1:53:16And it doesn't matter how many pro arms I've played. And they've been like, oh, this is my first time holding a club. And I'm like, well, this is great. Let's have a day. And I don't know. I think I correlate the two, family time and golf. And that's one of the things that drove my love for the game early on. And then I love competing. I love going head to head. But my brother, which by the way, he's a huge fan of your guys' show. He was so pumped. How's it going on? Shout out. He's a tennis player, and he played hockey growing up. He thought golf was just so boring, and then now he is a professional tennis player.

1:53:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, thanks for leaving him out, D-Bud. God bless the program. Shouts to the Korda family. We continue digitally with a goat. Sorry, bro. I'll give you the shout out. Yeah, please do. Love you, bro. We love you, dude. We continue digitally as SportsCenter picks up here on ESPN. That's Nelly Korda. We appreciate you all. Goodbye. Okay, we're still live, Nelly. Great wave. Good touch. Good touch at the end there. That was a good touch. That's very – The golf wave. The golf wave.

1:54:13Adam Schefter:I didn't mean to leave Sebastian out either. Oh, sure. It was golf. Sea bass? Yeah. We love sea bass over here, all right?

1:54:19Pat McAfee:Yes, we certainly do. We love the way he checks the watch. Yeah, we wanted to go – Checks the watch. We love everything about that, obviously. You talked about playing with amateurs. You did something that's the complete opposite of that, I do believe. Go ahead, Tone.

1:54:32Darius Butler:Yeah, now you also talked about swinging your swing and being competitive. I watched a couple weeks ago you and Scotty Scheffler hitting draws into a green. How cool was it to play with Scotty? And, like, when you get in those situations with, obviously, the two world number ones, are you guys sharing swing thoughts or your swings are so different that you're not? And then being competitive, if you two are playing together, who's getting strokes? You know, we do these tailor-made super shoots at the end of the year, and, like, that's when we all get together. And it's just so much fun, especially, like, after the years that Scotty has had.

1:55:06And it's so cool to see always on my sheet that I get to do a video shoot with Scotty. And I think that for sure, like we're very competitive, but it's also like super lighthearted during the shoots. And to see like the way that he thinks about golf, it's really unique how every single player thinks about their shots and the way that they execute. Like I did one with Tommy Fleetwood and I love Tommy Fleetwood. Like he is by far like my favorite golfer of all time. I just love his personality and his swing. And then I like do something with Scotty and I just see like how much he works the ball.

1:55:48And I'm just like, oh, he's, you're such a talent. And for me, I, I try to simplify the game as much as possible. And I definitely think that like every golfer is a complete nut, but those, those times that we all get together and we kind of share our own thoughts about like how we want to execute the shots and then we're like oh my gosh like we're all like mad scientists in a way yeah we're just

1:56:12Pat McAfee:talking about einstein and oppenheimer yeah we're big on the scientists but you would have to be because everything is what like a 15th of a centimeter is potentially taller cleats a complete loss what's that taller shoes yeah exactly yeah they made some different cleats for me a little different soul all of a sudden oh oh i gotta bend over i guess now the nice shoes to walk in i assume i assume they're very nice to walk in i don't know right my feet are very happy but yeah it's like all about you like miss hit it by a centimeter and this thing goes way right career over it's just about like centimeters in golf but it's so like my i would talk to my dad so many times and And, like, he played tennis, and he would feel a gram in his racket.

1:56:55A gram. I mean, that's a dollar bill. So everyone, every athlete just has, they all have their own quirks.

1:57:01Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. Whenever you are a master of your sport, you're going to know it inside and out. You certainly are that. I don't know. So you're 27. You started at 2. That's 25 years. Okay, I just turned 39. Let's assume I start next year. So when I turn 65. There you go. I don't know. I think your swing speed is going to just decline, though. No, science. Nellie, you don't know about this because you're still competing. We got science. That swing speed might go up, to be honest. You know, there's certainly going to be a collapse, a big cliff coming. But I think that thing can only go up. And then I'll start playing smarter golf.

1:57:36Pat McAfee:I saw your average, 283. Is that right off the tee box, 283-ish? Yeah, but I honestly never hit my shots 100%. One, I think my back would break. and two, I feel like there's way more control when you don't try to smash every single ball. I do not want to swing out of my shoes ever and I think that's what I see with a lot of amateurs is they get that driver in their hands and they're like, okay, I'm going to grip and rip right now. Yeah! Yeah, that is what we're doing, Nelly. How many times do I get a chance to do this? I don't know. How many golf balls do you lose a round? That, see? Why are we bringing that up?

1:58:15Pat McAfee:How about how many times I get to actually swing out of my shoes and it actually counts? I'm at least a two-sleeved guy, though. Yeah, but you're not going to get me through a full 18. Yeah, right. I'm at 12, 13 holes. I got to go. It's so long. And then the walking? Jeez. I did that a couple times out at the American Century in Tahoe. Bruised all my toes, blisters everywhere, exhausted, so sore. I'm like, fuck all this. My swing sucks. I'm not good. I'm getting embarrassed in front of people. And my entire body hurts from walking a mountain. I feel like a dipshit. John Daly used to walk these things.

1:58:53Pat McAfee:Patrick Reed stomping through these grounds. Oh, yeah. And I'm out here dying. It was just a bad experience. I retired from the game. Two years, Nelly. I put the sticks down. I retired. I quit. But now you have a new swing thought, so you're making a comeback. Coca-Cola. That's right, Andy. Coca-Cola. Yeah. Which is the superior if we were to do it. So would you say golfers are athletes? Yeah. Yes, definitely. We're settling it here. Hold on. What happened? So that happens. You get said you're not as people say you're not an athlete. I mean, that's kind of like, you know, the, what they always say is like golf is like the retirement sport.

1:59:29Right. But pickleball came in goes out and plays like they walk four days, 18 holes. And it's not just that, like we're walking Monday through Wednesday. Also, like we're in the gym, we're working hard, we're practicing.

1:59:43And And we do that like weeks in a row. So I've always heard that, and I love that we're settling it here.

1:59:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. We'll be the authority on that. I'm sure people would take us seriously. I'm sure that's the right – we're the right people to do that. People don't even think I'm an athlete, you know, and I'm not in the grand scheme of things. You are definitely – golfers higher up in the athlete community than a punter in the NFL, definitely. So, yeah, I would love to say you guys super athletes if I had to say anything. Perfect. I mean, that's just – How are you with ball sport? Do you throw? Do you throw catch? Yeah, I throw. I throw. Yeah, I've actually just become a big Packers fan. So I've just gotten into football.

2:00:23I have my cheese head right here.

2:00:25Pat McAfee:Wow. How come you just got in? This is brand new. You're a Packers fan. They're going to love to hear this. Ty is going to love to hear this. Yeah, so my fiance, he's a huge Packers fan, and I'm kind of marrying into it, and I've fully sent into it. I love it. Been out to Lambeau Field. I think it's the greatest place in the world. I've been on the field. Like, so cool. I love watching other sports, and I think the atmosphere there was super, super cool. Hey, listen, they're going to love to hear that. And the NFL as a whole, I don't want to speak for everybody, but we're pumped a goat is coming into our community.

2:01:01Pat McAfee:Go ahead and brace the hell out of it. Now, they're going to be showing you a lot. You know that? You start poking your head at those games. The NFL is certainly going to get the most. Well, and there is Nellie Korda, by the way, the greatest of all time. whenever it comes to the LPGA. She is a massive fan. So I can't wait to watch your rise in the NFL pop culture world. We're appreciative of you joining us here. AJ has a question for you, actually, Nellie. Yeah, Nellie, you mentioned how amateurs will swing out of their shoes. I guess I've seen you give some swing tips to maybe scrubby, terrible players like myself and Pat sometimes.

2:01:30But I guess what are some of the most common mistakes that you see where I know you get paired up in pro-ams all the time, and so you've seen all the range of golfers. Like, what are the most common things that bad golfers like us do? Well, there's a few. How long we got? We got some time. I would say the first mistake that I see is like on the range, right? You're warming up to go play. Like if you don't know where you're aiming on the range, there's no way that you know where you're aiming. Like how do you know where you're? What if you skip the range?

2:02:04Pat McAfee:how many swings do i have how many hours you want me at this place the round itself it just takes 10 minutes that's it 10 minutes before your team you kind of we call that calibration those are like calibration drills your your eyes change every single day and having that stick down on the ground and going from ball to flag and knowing like that your your mind is and your eyes are calibrating, that's really important. So first step, always have a stick on the range. Two, I mean, you know, working on your short game, your putts, your chips around the greens, I mean, that's so much fun for other people to do.

2:02:44And at the end of the day, I would say, yes, it's so easy to compare your swing to like the perfect swing of like Adam Scott or a lot of people compare their swing to mine. But at the end of the day, like swing your own swing, like find the ball hit it again find the ball hit it again and then once you start to get hooked on the game like then you can kind of dissect like okay where should i get better maybe i should go get a lesson but if you're not inclined to go get a lesson like my first tip is always learn how to

2:03:16Pat McAfee:aim learn smart for that well it sounds like we got to get on the goddamn range too yeah 10 minutes I'm aiming to like on Sunday of last week. I, or yesterday I was starting to aim so far. Right. And that's one of my tendencies is like, my head starts to tilt a little back at address and I start to kind of aim a little bit more. Right. And then I just start to swing a draw a little too much. Let's say for the people that are asking out there, not me. Okay. The people that are out there. What am I aiming? My shoulders, my feet, what the hell? Like I've, the feet is where I'm trying to, Is that what I'm doing?

2:03:53Feet, but everything has to be in line. Your feet have to be in line with your knees. Your knees have to be in line with your hips. Your hips have to be in line with your shoulders.

2:04:01Pat McAfee:Shoulders, knees, and toes, knees, and toes. I mean, you guys. And I scald the ball, it goes. I mean, I'm just telling you guys, you know, if you're picking up golf, you're going to be crazy and just get used to it. I love that. Well, it sounds like the craziness is certainly working for you. And we're incredibly pumped that we get a chance to watch his career continue to go. We all know Miss Patty Berg. Okay. 1937, 1958 legend. Yeah. PB. Yeah. Yeah. PB18. Yeah. Patty Berg. Now she could spin it. Yeah, I got it. 15 majors. You, all the time in the world to go chase. We can't wait to watch it all.

2:04:46Pat McAfee:Congrats to you getting back on top of the LPGA and also just seemingly golf and life as a whole. Cheers to you, Nellie. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate it. Okay, how much season do you have left? Until November. Holy shit. Yeah, long. Okay, will you join us again through the season here? Hopefully, if you guys have me back. Well, we got golf season happening. The weather's getting warm. This swing might be coming together here.

2:05:13Adam Schefter:I got some selfish questions to ask. Do you have one? So I'm a little past that point of like, you know, I can hit the ball. I can figure out. I can score below nine. I'm hooked. You know, three years ago I started playing. Your swings was one of the swings I watched, obviously. I'm trying to break 80, though. So what's the tips? I know most people come out, hey, let me just get a couple more birdies. But what is your advice to breaking 80 for the first time? Never done it. Well, one, do you have a stick on the range? I don't. You don't have a lineman stick? I have it, but I don't use it. That's tip number one.

2:05:48Adam Schefter:Wake up. You got to aim, bro. Wake up. You're not been listening. Shut up. Now he's home. Learn how to aim, asshole. Now he's fucking missing the whole range. Can you continue now, please? Two? Two? Like, do you go out and actually, like, work on any part of your game? Like, okay, like, let's say just go out and put four tees around the cup at four feet and, like, try to make eight in a row, like, go around. like these are like the smallest of things that will actually really improve your game like go out and chip a little bit like do do drills like it's it's a lot of fun to actually do drills i like won't leave a spot until i've completed a really hard drill but i would say like one making sure that you know how to aim two not swinging out of your shoes learning how to like control your swing speed like okay if I want to hit an 80 yard shot I can hit it with two clubs I can hit it with a 54 degree and I can hit it with a 58 degree because I'm starting to control my swing speed so it's like it's like things like that that like really set apart I think like really good golfers to like beginners where they're like okay ball I'm just trying to hit it really hard like then you're like okay i'm learning how to start my ball on the right target to make four foot putts like it's just like the smallest of things that will actually add up

2:07:21Pat McAfee:and then i'm worried 80 for you i'm worried thank you i'm never gonna do any of that i got a bad feeling i need to get the bug to start making four foot putts right here we got we got right here me too please send it my way yeah well i couldn't imagine the amount of time you've spent on the practice range practice greens all those things throughout your entire life you started when you were two years old crazy yeah can you send uh i'm not gonna do my skin has no chance guys when i'm when i'm like 40 and 50 my skin is gonna be looking like 70 with how much time i've spent yeah but do you get a sweet uh like stew sink yeah did you see did you see his uh his son.

2:08:04Pat McAfee:Oh, sorry, sir. The most recent one. It is. Boom. Bang. No, I'm, I'm like applying sunscreen religiously. I do have like a really bad whoop tan.

2:08:21Darius Butler:Oh, careful. I came back from Mexico. Like I'm definitely, my hand is a different color to compared to the rest of my body.

2:08:30Pat McAfee:The golf tan lines are spectacular. The socks. The socks on the feet. The permanent socks. Yeah, I get those all the time. Like, oh, you didn't take your socks off at the beach? Funny. No, I'm a professional fucking golfer. I'm like, shut up. Could you imagine if that's how you responded? It'd be so sick. Oh, sweet tan lines. What, did you bury your feet at the beach? No, actually, I just won my third major back-to-back in Mexico. So, yep. Yeah, I don't think I could do that. I'm just like, yeah, you know, I just own the different tans. All right, well, we'll do it for you. We'll do it for you.

2:09:04Pat McAfee:So when's the season conclude? A week before Thanksgiving. All right, let's go. Let's win this thing. We're going on the ride. We're going on the ride. Oh, yeah. You've had six straight top two finishes, I do believe. Let's see. We're going to ride alongside. We're so thankful that you joined us, and good luck the rest of the way. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for having me. Just think about it. I'll leave your leg. Oh, you need to do Coca-Cola. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're trying to grip and rip. Trying to do Pepsi. No. It's Coca-Cola, baby. Coca-Cola, nice and smooth. Yeah, nice and smooth, baby.

2:09:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, of course. All right, you're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Nelly Corda. Nelly.

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2:11:24Pat McAfee:Probably just the most stereotypical golf conversation she's ever had every time she's had to have a conversation. And I'll tell you what, awesome human for it all.

2:11:32Adam Schefter:She's a beast over there at D. Butch. Yeah, so smooth. I love her game, and she has some good tips. Aim, that's important. Learn how to aim because I do – that does suck when you hit the ball, you compress the shit out of the ball, but you pull it, and it's like, oh, I was aimed that way. So aim in the drills and then not swinging 100%. She says she never swings her foot 100%. I assume that's probably the same for most golfers. Not Scotty. Scotty. Scotty fell out of the toolbox. That's what's so frustrating is because, like, she says that, and I feel like everything she just said is correct. But then Scotty Scheffler is the number one golfer in the world for the men is swinging out of his shoes every single time I'm watching him golf.

2:12:11It's like, it's crazy, but that's the whole swing or swing thing. Yeah, swing or swing. Swing or swing.

2:12:16Pat McAfee:Scotty Scheffler told me to do the same thing. It seems like the number one golfers in the world. I will not miss an opportunity to ask them what I need to be doing. Same. Both of them say, swing your swing. It's like, my swing is ass. Can you give me a little something else to help me out? Just find it. You'll find it. It's like these two are weapons. Golf's in a great place. Fantastic watch this weekend. How about the Kentucky Derby? So fun. Really cool. 19.6 million viewers. Average, obviously, is that particular number. Huge, huge show. So congrats to NBC continuing to just crush everything in the race itself.

2:12:50Pat McAfee:Obviously a lot of lead up, a lot of shenanigans, a lot of tomfoolery, a lot of quizzing, a lot of mint juleps, a lot of scenes, a lot of interviews, a lot of pre-races, a lot of that shit. Build up to the Kentucky Derby, the most exciting two minutes in sports or whatever it was. It lived to the billing. Golden Tempo put on a hell of a show up there.

2:13:07Darius Butler:The fact that it was Golden Tempo and Renegade at the end was insane because you see where Golden Tempo comes from. And then did you see Renegade out of the gates? the obviously he was on the rail he was in the one slot and the five horses to the right of him just just came crashing down on him so he had to pull back and then make an incredible run there was a lot of really good runs out of these horses uh on saturday yeah the rapoli thing with the renegade horse i thought was really cool like typically i feel like i will watch the kentucky derby see a couple things you know immediately after but on social media uh rapoli talking to his, you know, jockey basically like, hey, if you're going to lose, it's going to be to your brother, which you mentioned earlier, which I didn't really even notice until I saw the Rapoli.

2:13:50Pat McAfee:And Rapoli said, family won today. Yeah. Hey, don't cry like smack super Italian. Hey, listen, don't you cry today. If you're going to lose to anybody, you lose to your brother. Family won today. Okay. It was like the most Italian reaction of all time and his horse ran a great race. I assume he's very proud of Renegade for the race that they ran, but Golden Tempo just coming flying from the back. stealing the Kentucky Derby. Living life. Here it is right here. Hey, listen. Listen. Do we have sound for this? Fuck your brother. Fuck your brother. How are you living, man? I'm fucking crazy. That's why you're the best rider in the country.

2:14:27Pat McAfee:That's why you're the best rider in the country. You're the best. You're a fucking loser. Hey. Girl crying. You son of a bitch. You're listening to your brother. All right. Let's go get a house. Jesus, man. Give space. Space. Hey, that was super diet of him right there. Him and one of them. Kissed him right there on the cheek. Come here. Come here. You see this suit? Fucking proud of you. Hey, baby girl over here crying.

2:15:02Darius Butler:That's how proud we are. The owner's boxes were awesome.

2:15:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. A lot of celebration.

2:15:06Darius Butler:A lot of them. Even the winner's owner's box was awesome. But, like, that owner's box, I can't remember who it was for, to the right of the – Ossoli? Yeah, which came in third, I believe. And then the winner is to the left of them. But, like, they were all – like, it was awesome scenes.

2:15:22Pat McAfee:Yeah. Kentucky Derby seemingly delivered on all fronts. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. Oh, no. I'm okay just watching it from home. I can't. I got to go. I got to go. You never been boozing the ground? Oh, yeah. I've been in the infield. You've done it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've done it. First year out here. It was my birthday weekend. Obviously, it kind of always falls on that. No, but I don't think I had played yet. I don't think I had played for the Colts yet. But I was out here for whatever, workouts. Yeah, we went down there. What a time. What was the fit? Four-street left. Shorts, obviously.

2:15:57Pat McAfee:Boat shoes. Tucked-in shirt. Sunglasses. Big hat. So much boozing in there. It was rainy, so it was all muddy. I mean, it was exactly how you think. And then 4th Street Live, which is downtown Louisville, like they get after it. I mean, it is – I mean, this guy would know better. You watched from home this week. Did you miss it? Did you get the itch to be down there in Louisville to Churchill Grounds, Hollow Grounds, to watch Golden Tempo kind of electrify the entire race? Yeah, it was a fun race. It is – yeah, it's obviously very cool to go there. But it's like anything. Like, it's about the people you go with.

2:16:33So, yeah, I always get to go and hang out with a bunch of old teammates I don't see very often. And so it's awesome getting back with them. But yeah, it's, it's awesome, but it is definitely like, it's two. If you go, a lot of people go two full days. They'll go Friday at like 9.30 AM till six or seven. And then Saturday do the same thing. So like you better strap in and watch some horse racing.

2:16:52Pat McAfee:Yeah. You better strap in and just really kind of deal with the whole. Cause don't you get bussed in and out too? Like it's hard to get into the area, I think. Right. Yeah. Everything's, everything's tough getting in and out, but yeah, it's, it's a process. Certainly worth it though. Hell yeah. It's cool. It's cool. What a different world. Yeah, very different world. We watched a man who comes from that world, who was scared to say that he actually is from that world, hit a nine horse on Friday night while we were here having a nice little card night. This nine horse is all Bruce needed, and he had been calling it from the beginning.

2:17:25Pat McAfee:Didn't even see the nine on the graphic at the bottom because it was hidden behind one of the ponies. Bruce, this is a nice little weekend for you in horse racing, I would say. The ponies delivered nicely for old Bruce Brown's bank account. Yeah, it was an awesome Kentucky Oaks for me. I hit the pick six there with the nine horse favorite. I believe it was Jose Ortiz on the ride there as well. But, yeah, it was a great weekend. Great Kentucky Derby. Congrats to Golden Tempo and all the connections. Unbelievable ride. That final stretch run from last to first. It's like if you were making a horse racing movie, that's what you would want the final scene to be.

2:18:03Just an unbelievable ride from Ortiz to go up there and obviously catches his brother on Renegade. A ton was made about all the jockeys kind of switching horses. Irad Ortiz had his sort of the pick of the litter between five horses. Every race that Golden Tempo has ran, he has been the jockey. And you can kind of see, obviously, sort of that connection paying off. It's not something that they're not used to, right, coming from behind and getting all the way up there.

2:18:31Pat McAfee:really cool to see it all pay off yeah I enjoyed the race I enjoyed learning the story the so happy yeah so happy with Mark glad the trainer it's crazy that much like March Madness I find myself knowing nothing yeah and then all of a sudden over like a two-day period I'm like massively invested in these things that I know very little about and then all of a sudden I see myself downloading a new app yeah and then trying to figure out I shouldn't have done that and then have to put a bank account in again and do an entire thing again it's like wow this is crazy how this all works out but it does feel special and then what's next preak nasty over there in baltimore yes yeah that is the the next um hopefully golden tempo goes did the uh what you say have they said because in the past guys have won the derby and not even tried to win the triple crown last year right they they got to see how how golden tempo comes out so as long as he's continuing eating his normal amount and is all sound, I think that they're going to send Golden Tempo to the Preakness, but no one else from the derby is going to go.

2:19:36Great White?

2:19:38Pat McAfee:We need to see Great White get another shot on the title. Great White might be there. Fresh legs.

2:19:43Darius Butler:I don't know if we do. What? How do you do that? He's an outlaw. Rattle all the other ponies before the race.

2:19:52Pat McAfee:Sorry, that's Great White football. Smart move. Okay. He's also like the biggest horse in the world. This horse has so many hands. I obviously didn't know what a hand was last week, but that's one of the biggest horses I've ever seen. Yeah, I think Great White needs to make his presence known. At least for the pre-race routine.

2:20:14Darius Butler:It was the jockey's fault.

2:20:15Pat McAfee:Absolutely.

2:20:17Darius Butler:He was whispering shit in his ear. It was quite funny. the great whites Irish trainer. They did like a interview with him in the buildup. He was maybe the most confident trainer. He was like, great. I mean, look at him. He's huge. We got a good chance here. And then just bam. That was a terrible Irish accent, but you get it.

2:20:37Pat McAfee:Ty Smith's not here. So obviously you were kind of put into a tough spot there. He would have picked right up for you there as the Irish lad who was speaking about the great white horse who just moments before getting gated. Is that what that's called? that you put into the gate?

2:20:50Darius Butler:Yeah, yeah.

2:20:51Pat McAfee:Every year I learn about this again. I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot getting into the gate is a big song and dance. Like this is a big to-do. This is a big part of the race. Talk back to me. This is a massive piece of it. There's always some shenanigans seemingly as they're pushing the ass end of a horse into something and then shutting it and then zooming out. Boom, and then the thing's fucking off and running. Are these things jacked up because of the amount of people? You think the Great Whites saw the Great Lights and said, holy hell, this is going to be a great night and got all kind of worked up and said, you know what, actually, I'm going to do a backflip.

2:21:21Pat McAfee:Maybe the jockey was holding him back. Maybe the great white wanted to do an entire backflip, and the jockey kind of slowed it down. He's not hurt, right? Not injured somehow? No. Yeah, all good. Precautionary scratch there obviously took a pretty hard fall under the back. The crowd is – Don't worry, they still will. Whoa! They said he's going home. Yeah, home. Home. To the farm. We know what that means. Where all the dogs go. Yep. I hope not. Horse that big, they need to stud him anyway. Yes. Yeah, exactly. They got other ways to do that. Bad news, boys. No. Great White's at Preak Nasty. When's this?

2:21:59Pat McAfee:A couple weeks? Yeah, a few weeks. I forget. Yeah, he'll be there. Backlashes this weekend. Are you paying attention? Or tribal chiefs?

2:22:07Darius Butler:Is he fighting? Or wrestling? Or does he have a match? You're not paying attention to the backlash? No. That's not for the rest of the time. No, when you made your proclamation about the business, I joined in on that one. Me too. What was the problem? That if Randy lost, never coming back.

2:22:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, but I was talking about like.

2:22:26Darius Butler:Oh, no, I'm just out forever. Oh, just your eyes, you decided. As soon as they have something worth watching, I'll be back.

2:22:32Pat McAfee:Jeez, Cody Rhodes. Randy lost. Don't hold your breath, brother. Still saved the business.

2:22:38Adam Schefter:I'm in.

2:22:39Pat McAfee:Well, hold your breath, especially if Gunther's around. He's back. Okay. Nope.

2:22:42Adam Schefter:I hate Gunther. He sucks. No pizzazz. The guy stinks.

2:22:47Pat McAfee:I put me in night-night, so I can't say anything about it. He is violent. They're already going into the Cena puddle, you know? They're already that desperate, so. What are you talking about? Cena will be at backlash this week. But that guy retired. That's where he lives. He lives in Tampa Bay. I knew he was full of shit. He's been working on something. He sat right there and said, oh, I'm never coming back. Hmm. Yeah, kind of questioned his integrity, and we were right to it. You guys got pissed at me every time I asked if he was coming back. You guys looked at me like I was a terrible person.

2:23:13Yeah, you were right.

2:23:14Pat McAfee:That's because he's not coming back. He's just helping the business. Yeah. What is the Cena puddle? What's the Cena puddle mean exactly?

2:23:20Darius Butler:So basically what Cena's doing right now is he graduated high school. He's still going to all the parties. Okay? Go to college, John. You're done. No. We're coming back to our parties with your Letterman jacket on. Okay?

2:23:31Pat McAfee:What are you talking about?

2:23:32Darius Butler:Leave some for the rest of us.

2:23:33Pat McAfee:That's not what's happening. John Cena's trying to continue to build the business. He's just not wrestling anymore. Okay. Yeah, I was saying like Cena puddle is in the sense that right now it's kind of like a desert and everyone's just so thirsty. I mean, they got nothing to hold on to. So they're going, that's not true. You put John Cena on the bill and you especially get that. But he out of the mean. Far to get an opportunity here. It's a big deal. Who's the first one? It's the same guy.

2:24:00Darius Butler:Is he evil fighting?

2:24:02Pat McAfee:Oh. Evil's in NXT, I do believe. Debuted last week. Love that. A lot of debuts in NXT.

2:24:07Darius Butler:Is Spell guy fighting?

2:24:09Pat McAfee:Dan Housen's actually looking for a tag team partner, I do believe, for Backlash. Yeah, he's great. So we probably won't see him for a couple months. No, we'll see Dan Housen. He's everywhere. He's at Backlash. Did you see the video? I did. He's great. Yeah, he's unbelievable.

2:24:21Darius Butler:I was talking about Dan Housen. Where's Backlash at? I do like Dan Housen as well.

2:24:26Pat McAfee:No, it's Housen. Dan Housen. We're seeing him too much. No. He's not jumping shark. We're seeing him too much. Dan Housen, he's only starting Housen. Yeah, that is what's happening.

2:24:35Darius Butler:Is Jelly getting in? Is he going to squash somebody?

2:24:38Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, he broke my back. He almost broke my neck.

2:24:42Darius Butler:Oh, it's in Tampa? Nice.

2:24:43Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's John Cena. John Cena lives here.

2:24:45Darius Butler:He lives in Tampa?

2:24:46Pat McAfee:Yeah. The guy's been doing, yeah. I thought he lived overseas. He did for those five years. It's official. He's headed back to WWE Backlash. After months of planning and effort, I am so excited to break some history-making news. I can't promise it'll be perfect, but I can promise it'll change the WWE experience for superstars and fans. See you live Saturday in Tampa or at home on the ESPN app. Hell yeah, Cena. This is what you guys are all mad about. It's unbelievable. What could it be? What's going to change the whole experience? What is it? I don't know. I believe in John Cena, though, personally.

2:25:17Pat McAfee:I would like to let it be known that I believe in John Cena. I did. So whatever he's –

2:25:22Darius Butler:He lied right to our face. He sat right there. He was grandstanding in this office. That jar of coffee. His little stupid coffee. He was –

2:25:30Pat McAfee:It was a local coffee shop that he was supporting.

2:25:32Darius Butler:He was drinking that gimmick little coffee for six hours. He supported the business. He said, are you going to question my integrity? I'm never coming back. Right. And lo and behold, sounds like his integrity –

2:25:44Pat McAfee:No, he's not in the ring.

2:25:46Darius Butler:I saw him in the ring with the microphone in his hand.

2:25:50Pat McAfee:Announcing attendance, which was an incredible number, and I think he was partially to blame for the amount of people that came. He's not wrestling. Even whenever the Housins came out, no physicality. The John Cena being around WWE is a good thing, not a bad thing, I think, personally. That backlash.

2:26:08Adam Schefter:Tribal Chief. Housin killed that. Is he the Tribal Chief? He will be there. That was actually funny.

2:26:13Pat McAfee:Who's the trouble chief wrestling? Jacob Fatou. We just talked about this.

2:26:19Darius Butler:I didn't know anything that you were saying.

2:26:22Pat McAfee:That's on you.

2:26:23Darius Butler:Adam and me, baby. Actually, it's on you.

2:26:25Pat McAfee:Why is it on me?

2:26:26Darius Butler:Because you said. I should have counted quicker.

2:26:29Pat McAfee:I should have counted quicker.

2:26:30Darius Butler:If Randy loses, we're out. And I'm not.

2:26:32Pat McAfee:No, no.

2:26:32Darius Butler:I took my marching orders and I went.

2:26:35Pat McAfee:No, no. Because if I would have just went.

2:26:37Darius Butler:Game.

2:26:38Adam Schefter:You didn't, did you? Different business. I think you still saved the business.

2:26:42Darius Butler:Well, yeah.

2:26:43Adam Schefter:That's what I'm doing.

2:26:47this was the problem the pizzazz was that yeah you pimped it have you ever world title you did pimp it yeah it's like you pipped the home run and got robbed that's on me it's on me I got lost

2:26:58Pat McAfee:in there a little bit you know how could you not I already had a neck brace on saw my weakness that's why he's the viper yeah the apex predator he knows yeah the legend killer

2:27:11Darius Butler:He's got an animal inside of him.

2:27:12Pat McAfee:The depiction of perfection for professional wrestling. I felt so good that coming out of my mouth in a stadium. Stadium is tough because the echo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stadium is tough. That's not a place you want to be speaking.

2:27:21Adam Schefter:Good play.

2:27:22Pat McAfee:Meteors in there. Didn't think about that until as I was going, oh, forgot about this one. This is good. It's the business. Good. Oh, yeah. I messed the people up. Me, did you see the Pittsburgh Steelers one before we did the NFL draft experience with the kick? With the giveaway? Oh, yeah. Hello. Oh, and it starts, and I go, oh, no, I was not prepared for this. We just threw this together in the last 25 minutes, and I didn't even think about the echo while I'm talking to these people. It was incredible. What a fun time. What a fun life. What a great experience. Thank you to sports. Huge ones tonight, AJ.

2:27:55Pat McAfee:Let's get your picks on these things. In the east, we got Flyers at Hurricanes, 7 p.m. on ESPN. Hurricanes currently up 1-0. This is the second round. Who do you like? How do you like it, AJ? Let's go ahead and make a pick here. You know what? We spent some good time with Coach Bill Cowher back at the draft. I know he is a Hurricanes guy. He has the, what do you call it? What did he do with the siren? He sired the siren. He blared. He did that whole situation. Because of my love for him, I'm taking the old Hurricanes on this one. I'll tell you what, I love Bill Cowher too, man. That was an incredible couple of days with Coach Cowher.

2:28:28Pat McAfee:I mean, actually, an incredible couple of days. He said, you know, the deal that was made for him to do that was something I could have never expected. You know, Coach Cowher, he did wail on their side, though, against the Pens, I believe.

2:28:41Darius Butler:And also Stormy put Gurthy in a body bag.

2:28:45Pat McAfee:Yeah, good social media coming out of this particular. Who?

2:28:48Darius Butler:The Hurricanes mascot Stormy put Gurthy into a body bag. Gritty is the name of. I refuse to call him that.

2:28:54Pat McAfee:Okay, maybe the Gurthy one. Okay, obviously. Gurthy's a compliment, though. A Muppet.

2:28:58Darius Butler:Depends on what body part or pen you're talking about.

2:29:00Pat McAfee:Well, I think it normally only gets talked about for one. I don't think there's normal. Unless he's a soup can. There could be a chance Campbell's is happening that night. Not a bad situation. Yeah, also plays. But on that note, Gritty is who you're talking about? Yeah. Gritty got buried. Yeah, he did. By Stormy. What's that? I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. You're talking about penises right now? Oh my god. What'd you say? I don't forget now. I would like to know the inside joke about a penis. You're talking about soup cans. Yeah. And then there was a, that would be terrible, and then somebody complimented it, and then welcome to hell, you Muppet reject.

2:29:42Pat McAfee:This is what we were talking about. Nothing to do with penises. No.

2:29:45Darius Butler:Or soup cans.

2:29:46Pat McAfee:Just two mascots kind of getting after it on social media. Okay, I do appreciate that. But we would assume this would be a very fair fight between Stormy and Gritty. I'm not sure Gritty can die, and I think Stormy would kill. What a tweet. What a time. Yeah. And that's when social media is good. What you say about penis? I said soup can. I said he goes east and west. That's all I said. Oh, okay. Gotcha, yeah. Yeah, you got to hit the walls, I guess. Can't hit the back door. You got to hit the sides. Malik Willis, I don't know if you saw this, AJ. He overthrew his opening pitch. He did have a glove, though, which nobody's really talking about.

2:30:25Pat McAfee:He came prepared with a glove, which I respect. Very rare whenever it comes to first pitches. He overthrows nasty. And then obviously the whole world goes, oh, the Dolphins are going to stick. Your thoughts on whether or not this is going to lead to success or not? Yeah, we touched on it before, obviously. This is all success. As long as you don't bounce it, I am an absolute fan of whatever you do. I wish you would have thrown it into the 50th row up. Maybe the next move from somebody is to fully embarrass yourself and chuck this thing over the backstop, I believe is the name of that. Yes, it is.

2:30:56Pat McAfee:And you've got to go over the net. That would be way up there.

2:30:59Darius Butler:That'd be wild. My big takeaway was look at the ham hocks he's got for Cavs. That was my takeaway. It's my quarterback.

2:31:07Pat McAfee:He looks jacked. Can you go back a little bit? That right there. Yeah. Yeah.

2:31:12Adam Schefter:He does look jacked.

2:31:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Cavs.

2:31:15Adam Schefter:It's working.

2:31:15Pat McAfee:Yeah. Power. And a football is so much bigger than a baseball. I've been trying to throw a baseball or a wiffle ball in here. It's not easy for a football thrower. So Malik Willis has been training so hard with a football. You put that little tiny baseball in his hand. And he's like Shaquille O 'Neal holding a basketball. Bingo.

2:31:29Adam Schefter:I remember we were watching that Joe Burrow. What was that? Oh, yeah, that was not good either.

2:31:34Darius Butler:He threw it two yards into the dirt. Threw it ten times in a row.

2:31:37Pat McAfee:That's interesting. He forgot about Joe Burrow not being able to throw a strike either. And that was short left, though. That's what gives me even more faith in Malik because it was much closer to Mahomes than it was to Burrow. Yeah, it's hard to throw a baseball. It's hard to throw. Hey, how are the Reds doing? Dominating. Doing great. What are you talking about? We've got a long season ahead of us. We're doing great. Here's Joe Burrow. representing the Cincinnati Bengals at Fanatics Fest. Remember, we thought this might not be real. Remember that? Or we thought he might be messing around. The first one I can see.

2:32:06Maybe even the first two. Is it something about this cage, though? I feel like Ruben threw in that same cage. Maybe there's some kind of weird lasers in there taking the ball from him.

2:32:13Pat McAfee:That one wasn't bad. He should have started aiming right. You know, I think he just hadn't thrown a baseball in a while. I don't want to. He's making the adjustments. Yeah, the last two weren't terrible. Like if Malik had five, six throws. All right, put it down.

2:32:23Darius Butler:Malik also mashed in the batting cage as well. Oh, really? He beat the shit out of the baseball in the cage. Did he? He's an athlete. I didn't see that. Remember Orlovsky threw a nice ball in here with the baseball?

2:32:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, like 1 ,000 times in a row at 8 a.m.?

2:32:37Adam Schefter:He was A-Rod when he was 12, though.

2:32:40Pat McAfee:Oh, Dan Orlovsky. Oh, that's right.

2:32:41Adam Schefter:He said that. Same trajectory, didn't he? Love baseball.

2:32:44Pat McAfee:Who caught for him there? Gumpy?

2:32:46Darius Butler:Yeah. He had a good frame job. Yeah, it was great. It was a little low.

2:32:49Pat McAfee:That was a good catch. It was, certainly. He was down in there. Yeah. Gumpy got real down low in there for Dan Orlovsky. We appreciate that. All right. I think we need to get the hell out of here. How's the weather?

2:32:59Darius Butler:Beautiful today. 75 and sunny, I believe. Maybe not so sunny right now, but 75. We got some rain right now. It should be done in 25 minutes is what the app says.

2:33:08Pat McAfee:That's crazy that we have that in our society right now.

2:33:10Darius Butler:Thank you, Joe. Feels like 60 instead of 69.

2:33:13Pat McAfee:They're still working out there. It might be just a little light mist as opposed to maybe a real rainstorm. Yeah. Good to see the crew out there getting after it, AJ. The roundabout coming is going to be done real soon? Yeah, I think the traffic is going to be a real problem. I think traffic's going to be a real problem. Allegedly, they're really moving on the construction and everything. They're thinking it's going to take less time. Have you heard more than I have? Just driving by, just getting vibes from the board-ass drivers, too. Just kind of seeing and observing. They feel good about it.

2:33:44Pat McAfee:We are in construction season. Shout out to everybody out there doing it. We appreciate you putting our world together. Certainly inconvenient for most, but who cares? Progression has to happen. Things have to get better. Sometimes you've got to take it on the shins to do as such or battle the sun. Shout out to Nelly joining us.

2:33:58Darius Butler:Yeah, it was awesome.

2:33:59Pat McAfee:I appreciate her. She was awesome. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with her again. We certainly knew that her league went all the way until a week before Thanksgiving, right, AJ? We knew that. Yeah, we did. I tell you what, she's got a long road ahead. She's got a lot of tournaments. She's going to still win this year. Six top two finishes in a row. Now, can she carry it for the next 55 weeks? Yep.

2:34:19Darius Butler:What's Scotty got? Three second place finishes in a row for Scotty?

2:34:23Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's starting to really get going, too. What happened to him on 18th? He fell out of that thing pretty good. Him talking about Cam Young was cool. He was talking about Cam Young draining everything. Feels like he just drained everything. He didn't miss anything. Scotty was like, I got to play with him here. Wire to wire. Wire to wire. Cam wins this entire thing. He's hitting incredible shots.

2:34:41Adam Schefter:How do you feel about him giving himself that penalty?

2:34:44Pat McAfee:I love it for the good of the game. He was up five strokes. Everybody said it's much easier to call that whenever you're up five. He came from a golf family, right? His dad is a golf instructor, a PGA pro. It feels like he grew up on the course. It feels like this was a good moment for him to showcase what you're supposed to do. I think that is probably how he viewed it all. We've also seen guys that have done this in the past. I mean, and this is strictly just allegedly and things that were on the course. But Patrick Reed, that has followed him, Patrick Reed, for a long time since a lot of people, whenever they're in the sand, him doing that whole thing, like the honor of the game.

2:35:17It does feel like there are guys that hold it in high regard. And I don't know if Camion's thinking like, oh, if I don't say this right now, people are going to say I'm cheating. But I do think there is that sense of like, hey, I owe it to the game.

2:35:28Pat McAfee:Who cares why he did it? If he thought that maybe somebody was going to call him out publicly and he did it, if he thought to himself immediately for the good of the game and did it, who cares? Still did it with a lead on Sunday for the good of this great game that we love, D-Butch.

2:35:40Adam Schefter:I like it. It is a beautiful game. And it made me feel especially good after learning of someone in here who played high school golf and told me about how they cheated every tournament. Because I got a daughter, and we stick by the rules. Even though I hate it, I would like to help. But this guy, Foxy, is cheating. What do you mean? We would cheat in matches, in team matches, because if you're cheating, it's good for the team because you're going to win. So in practice, no cheating. That is not allowed because we need the best golfers to be out there and need the best six. But in matches, it's a good team move to cheat in matches for it.

2:36:13I love everything.

2:36:13Pat McAfee:What is the cheating move? How are you cheating? Well, let's just say, you know, you walk up to your ball and you have a four-footer. No one's looking. I'm marking that three feet away. Or maybe two feet away. You got that thing in half? If you can get away with it, that's what you do. Scumbags. Scumbags. So another one example. You know, I'm going through scorecards end of the round. I'm like, wow, I played really bad today. We're going bop, bop. You say like four, three, and they're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the other guy goes, you got a five there, right? I really got a seven on it.

2:36:46Yeah, I got a five there.

2:36:47Pat McAfee:Boom. Two-stroke swing. That's a big one. That doesn't happen much. And this is why the golf gods won't bless you with anything longer than 230 yards for the rest of your life. You're not lying, and I agree with you guys. I like that Cam Young called himself on it and, like, you know, integrity, respect the game, all that shit. But it is a problem with the game of golf. Like, that clearly didn't give him any advantage. It clearly just slowed things down. Scotty even says in the background, like, bro, if it didn't move or if you weren't addressing it or if you didn't do it intentionally, then don't worry about it.

2:37:19But we always have to go with the rules. Rules are there for a reason. And it just kind of – I don't like that part of it. What do you want?

2:37:25Pat McAfee:Do you want Jason Kelsey jumping in Augusta's lake and pond? Sounds like he does. Is that what you're trying to get rid of, the integrity of golf? I think golf is already hard enough, and he didn't do anything to try to cheat and try to do his thing. Like Patrick Reed, people are like, he did that on purpose to improve his life. I don't think Cam Young was doing that. Let's just keep it moving. Don't need the stroke panel. Okay. I can agree with that, but what precedent does that set? Exactly. Rules are there for a reason. Kids watching, man. Yeah, my daughter's turning three today. She needs a golf that is golf.

2:37:57Pat McAfee:Okay, not whatever you want. Well, you just want the YouTube clips anyways, don't you? Yeah, that's all. We're going to all play golf at some point in the future. I don't cheat when I'm with you guys. Sure. I believe you for sure. Okay. I found it. Yep, always finding his ball no matter what. You never would have thought that with Foxy. No, you wouldn't have. Because he played in King Young. Exactly. If you're on my team, I'll cheat for us, though. We're trying to win here, all right? Jesus. All right, I'll play with Foxy. Bye. Thank you for sacrificing. No one else wants to. No, I'm starting to wonder how many times I've reaped the benefits of.

2:38:33Pat McAfee:Yeah. You do play with him in front of it. Foxy cheating. I mean, there are some tournaments in high school golf where you've got to scramble, so you're with a teammate there. I mean, you're sending your teammate up there, found your ball. Orm, I mean, there are times you're improving your lie by this much if you can get away with it. That's a big deal on the putting green. No shit. On the putting green? Yeah. Turning a four-footer into a two-footer? Yeah, I'd say. And really, you're just like laughing about it at that point. It's pretty damn funny. Ten-footer into the hole? Holy shit. Did you get it rolled in?

2:39:04Look here. And you got to keep in mind, there's a lot of goofballs that play varsity golf. So, like, you get away with a lot of stuff. A cheater. You don't say, yeah.

2:39:12Pat McAfee:Not you. Not me. All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Foxy, they're going to start looking into all the Williamstons golf records. I was all league my senior year. Let's go. Take that away. Take that away. Somehow, I always was in perfect position. Never behind a tree. Fareway, Foxy. I called him. That's like we heard. I'm not getting into it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Massive games. Okay, we only picked one. Sorry, we've got to finish this. Okay, so you like the Hurricanes there in Flyers versus Hurricanes. How about the Ducks and Golden Knights 930 on ESPN?

2:39:48Pat McAfee:Who do you like in that one, AJ? I like the Vegas Golden Knights. I am a John Tortorella fan, and he's running the ship right now. Okay, so you got Torts and you got the Hurricanes because Bill Carr. I'll take the Flyers, and I'll take the Golden Knights as well. D-Butt, would you like to pick these games?

2:40:05Adam Schefter:Let me go. You know what? Flyers. I'm going to hurt. Hurricanes and Golden Knights. Okay. Hey, Tony, Dick? Give me the Canes and Ducks.

2:40:14Pat McAfee:Con man? I'll go Canes, Golden Knights. Man, nobody believes in Sondheim and the boys in Philadelphia. No.

2:40:22Darius Butler:Canes haven't lost yet this entire playoff. I don't believe in Philadelphia. Haven't been down the whole playoffs. Rolling.

2:40:26Pat McAfee:A pretty historic run for them. And tonight, Gritty and the Flyers get Gritty on the ice, and they change that whole thing around. Let's go to the NBA Sixers and Knicks. Joel Embiid. Shams said playing, it sounds like. as he takes on the Knicks and Jalen Brunson, favored by 7.5. AJ, who do you like? Man, honestly, I like the Sixers here. All I can picture is Tyrese Maxey at the end of their last game, how sudden, how quick, and how fast that dude can get to the hoop and take over the game at the end. And if Embiid is playing, yeah, give me the Sixers here. You like Sixers plus 7.5? Oh, sure. Yeah, I'll take them plus 7.5 as well.

2:41:02Pat McAfee:D-Butt?

2:41:02Adam Schefter:I am a little worried about the Sixers coming off kind of that emotional high of that big comeback game seven. Knicks are kind of fresh. That's a lot of points. I'm still going to Sixers plus 7.5.

2:41:13Pat McAfee:Okay, Sixers plus 7.5, even though he tried to talk himself out of it. Tone Diggs?

2:41:17Darius Butler:He made a lot of good points. Sixers plus 7.5.

2:41:20Pat McAfee:Convan? I'll take the Knicks. Okay, Knicks minus 7.5. Connor saves the graphic, if you will. Timberwolves and Spurs, Ant-Man, full participant, are trying to get his way back into the game. Just nine days removed from a hyperextension. It caused a bone bruise in his knee. taking on Wemby in the Spurs. Spurs favored by 13 and a half. Is that still the spread? Down to 11 and a half. 11 and a half is now the spread. Okay, that makes sense with the news from Shams about Ant-Man potentially playing tonight. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it? With Ant-Man coming back, I don't know if they're going to win, but I'm taking Minnesota at plus 11 or plus 11 and a half.

2:41:55Adam Schefter:Plus 11 and a half. D-butt? I'll take Spurs to cover 11 and a half. Tone? Same. D-butt. Yeah, Spurs, Wemby over points. It's him versus Gobert. French battled down low. They were teammates in the Olympics.

2:42:07Pat McAfee:Okay, I'll take the Spurs in that as well. All right, let's enjoy the hell out of tonight's playoffs. We got some baseball tonight, I assume?

2:42:14Adam Schefter:Yeah, the whole slate. Oh, some baseball news, too. Oh, yeah.

2:42:18Darius Butler:Speaking of cheating Foxy. Yeah, not good, Foxy. Scoobles being shut down for – he's got to have surgery on his elbow. Damn. Floating bodies in his elbow, they said two to four months or something like that, two to three months.

2:42:31Pat McAfee:Detroit ace Tarek Skubal will undergo surgery to remove loose bodies in his left elbow. Such procedures typically sideline players for two to three months. Skubal should return before season ends, but tough blow for the impending free agent and two-time reigning AL Cy Young winner. That sucks. Loose bodies. Yeah, he's probably got a little chip in something. Yep. Chip in something. It's kind of floating around in there.

2:42:56Adam Schefter:That sucks.

2:42:57Pat McAfee:Kind of happens to your meniscus, I think. piece of your meniscus kind of chips off or something else like that just kind of bounces around and it like locks up it like locks up your kind of where it sits yeah it's like where it is depending upon i did in my knee when i hyperextended my knee i got a dislocated patella which is your kneecap your kneecap sits in uh groove mine when i hyperextended it bounced outside of the groove and it bounced back so there's like a little chip of something that was like bouncing around in there so like when that would get into certain spots it was like oh Oh, my God.

2:43:29Pat McAfee:And then it would bounce out of the way. You know, then you're like back to business. But, yeah, I don't know if it's similar, but it sounds like loose bodies is something that's floating around in there. And it gets real terrible when it happens upon some places that are great. Is this because he did Team USA training camp? Oh, no. Legit might be. I think he should have pitched for Team USA. We would have found this earlier. He would have been back earlier. We could have won the World Series. Also, it turns out it wouldn't have mattered if he pitched for Team USA because this was going to happen regardless, it sounds like.

2:43:58Pat McAfee:Man, if he would have pitched for Team USA and then this happened. Bad news. It would have been loud. It would have been loud. Especially with how much money is on the way. This doesn't affect the money, I don't think, right? People are still going to pay Scoobal?

2:44:08Darius Butler:Yes, definitely. In his prime, yeah. If it's two, three months. Because especially if he comes back and pitches well for the rest of the season.

2:44:14Pat McAfee:Good luck out there, Scoobal. We're pulling for you.

2:44:16Darius Butler:Sorry, Detroit. Sorry, Detroit.

2:44:18Pat McAfee:You get the stones, you lose Scoobal. Yeah.

2:44:21Darius Butler:Sorry, Motor City Kitties.

2:44:24Pat McAfee:What's that? The Detroit Tigers? That's what I call the Motor City Kitties, yeah. Do a lot of people call them that? Because this could be like the Stones thing where Foxy kind of puts us out on an island and says everybody says this and nobody says it. Are a lot of people saying the Motor City Kitties?

2:44:35Darius Butler:Yeah, a lot of people I know call them that.

2:44:37Pat McAfee:Really? I've never heard them before. People call them that. I don't. They'd also look for the lions as well if you really wanted to go there. Oh, you guys are a bunch of Motor City Kitties out there. I like more cases. I'm kind of impressed with the Motor City Kitties, though, because the lion's a great animal.

2:44:50Darius Butler:Great.

2:44:51Pat McAfee:That's a great kitty.

2:44:52Darius Butler:Yep.

2:44:52Pat McAfee:That's a powerful fucking kitty. Yeah, so is Tiger. And the Tiger's a badass cat as well. Two of the best. Motor City badass kitties, I think. You know, you can kind of get after it. The Lions going to win again? You guys missed playoffs this last year. Yeah, we're going to win again. We have the easy schedule in the NFL. And also, the boys are gritty and chippy and ready to roll. What does that mean, AJ? The easiest schedule in the NFL? Are they playing professional teams? Yeah, is that possible? Are they playing some college teams? So, would you guys rather have the fourth place schedule in all the divisions or would you have the first place schedule?

2:45:20Pat McAfee:What we're saying is we think that that's all bullshit, though. Going off of last year's record, right? I'm pretty sure the Patriots had the hardest schedule at the beginning of the season last year. And then it ended up being the easiest schedule by the end of it. I think there's just so much potential fluctuation that could happen with teams in who's good, who's not good. Remember that year that we were 2-14 or whatever and the suck for luck stuff was happening. There was like nine one-score games where if a ball just so happens to fumble loose, score, we win that game. I think it's hard to just say a team.

2:45:51Pat McAfee:Now, granted, there are historically good teams and historically ass teams. So I think you need that. I don't like the whole that that has become a thing, though. Like, you get a bad schedule. It's like there is no fucking bad schedule. The NFL is good at football, all of them. Son, perpetual ass. But we all thought of the Jets right there? I did not. Who did you think of? Perpetual ass. Dolphins. Jeez. I was strictly thinking about the schedule getting thrown in Drake May's face, even though it's just not. Oh, last year. Well, that's what I'm kind of saying right now. Yeah. It's not real. Yeah.

2:46:24Pat McAfee:Like, teams good that you're playing against. People get paid millions and millions of dollars to play football. Some teams just show up better, obviously, especially at the end of the season. But, like, the Jets not doing ass stuff this offseason.

2:46:36Adam Schefter:Not yet. A good draft. No leaks. Love that. In this climate, love that. That's crazy.

2:46:44Pat McAfee:The number two overall pick, no leak at all. They got the pick as in being filmed some other places. Leaks everywhere, literally. Come on in. Let's film all the leaks. And then the Jets organization, which is notoriously ass, no leaks for that number two overall pick. I think that was a huge sign. I think that was a huge sign personally, AJ. Oh, yeah. I would imagine head coach Aaron Glenn is cutting the clips too with you saying that's a great sign and showing the front office as well. Hey, guys, we're cleaning things up around here. I think we've talked a lot of shit on the Jets. I don't know if they're showing much of us around there.

2:47:11Pat McAfee:And on that note, good luck to all parties. We'll be back tomorrow. We've got big games tonight in the playoffs. Round two of the NBA and NHL playoffs on the way. What a great time to be alive. If you get a chance, go see Savannah Bananas. No, Jude. Do it. You're going to be put first. Fan first. We'll sign the first autograph and the last autograph. 102 ,000. That's a lot. That's crazy. That's so many people going to something. A ton. That's so many fucking people. Insane. I don't know how you can hate it at this point. Jesse's just going to the next place. Maybe Central Park. That'd be cool.

2:47:47Pat McAfee:Maybe a beach.

2:47:49Adam Schefter:Maybe the moon. Maybe the moon.

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