In short
Feel Good Friday sports talk (May 8, 2026) mixing NHL, NBA, and NFL headlines, plus playful “UFO/UAP files” banter. Main sports focus is playoff physicality and officiating—especially Oklahoma City Thunder foul/flopping controversy—along with debates about James Harden’s playoff struggles, Donovan Mitchell’s pressure, and series outlooks (Knicks–76ers, Wolves–Spurs).
Guests (backgrounds)
- Kendrick Perkins: Former NBA enforcer/defensive-minded player (15-year career; Celtics background), now ESPN basketball analyst.
- Adam Schefter: ESPN senior NFL insider; longtime NFL reporter.
- Dan Orlovsky: ESPN NFL analyst and former NFL quarterback (mentioned as part of the guest panel).
- Action Bronson: Music artist/rapper (joins as a guest for the episode’s entertainment tone).
Key claims
- Perkins argues OKC games are being called poorly (too many no-calls and flopping not enforced), and that the NBA must re-emphasize enforcing the flop rule for integrity.
- He says James Harden is past his prime and has been a playoff liability via careless turnovers and defense; coach Kenny Atkinson should reduce his starting role.
- He criticizes Evan Mobley for finishing a series with one rebound, calling it unacceptable physicality.
- He frames Donovan Mitchell as under pressure because a Mitchell-led team has never reached a conference finals.
- Schefter reports the NFL and NFL Referees Association reached a seven-year CBA agreement (through 2032), avoiding replacement officials.
Notable examples
- Hurricanes beat Flyers 4-1; Carolina’s Stankoven fight sequence ends with a Jake “the Snake” Roberts DDT.
- Thunder–Lakers officiating complaints; JJ Redick and Austin Reaves confront refs.
- Harden playoff turnover/defensive issues; Mobley one-rebound critique.
- OG Anunoby hamstring management and “3-and-D” impact.
- UAP/UFO files speculation (Wemby/aliens jokes).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONHL Playoff Insights
0:45 to 3:54
Discussion about the Hurricanes' playoff performance and key matchups.
“They have now won seven straight to start this particular playoffs.”
NBA Officiating Controversies
3:54 to 7:22
Analysis of NBA refereeing issues and the impact on the Lakers and Thunder.
“Los Angeles Lakers and LeBron James, it's rigged against them for the Oklahoma City Thunder.”
Rigging Debate in the NBA
7:22 to 8:31
Exploring perceptions of officiating bias against teams like the Lakers.
“from the beginning and openly talking about.”
Aliens and Sports
8:31 to 11:14
A humorous take on UFOs and their potential influence on sports.
“Yeah, what if we get a look inside and actually, just like it's been right in front of our faces, there's 45 Wembees just in a bunch of these things.”
Guest Introduction: Kendrick Perkins
11:14 to 14:00
Bringing in Kendrick Perkins to discuss NBA playoffs and officiating.
“Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who, I mean, hell, he probably knows more than we do about this entire thing because it feels like his league that he played in for 15 years filled with aliens.”
Addressing Flopping in Basketball
14:01 to 17:03
Discussion on the impact of flopping in basketball and how to combat it.
“Matter of fact, I hated it, every single moment of it.”
LeBron's Changing Role in the NBA
17:04 to 20:25
Exploration of LeBron James' experiences and adjustments as he ages in the league.
“Yeah, Perk, we heard JJ after the game talk about LeBron being so big and physical.”
James Harden's Playoff Performance
20:26 to 24:35
Analyzing James Harden's struggles in the playoffs and the impact on his team.
“They're throwing a lot of numbers at me telling me he's ass in the playoffs.”
Pressure on Donovan Mitchell
24:36 to 28:00
Discussing the expectations on Donovan Mitchell and his playoff performance.
“Like former defensive player of the year, you finished the game with one rebound in the series that you know you got to come with a certain level of physicality?”
The Pressure of Championship Aspirations
28:00 to 29:20
Discussion on the mental pressure athletes face in pursuit of championships.
“off who, by name, who has the most talent, you would say it favors the Cavs.”
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Psychological Profiles of Top Athletes
29:20 to 30:40
Exploring the competitive mentality of elite athletes like LeBron and Michael Jordan.
“I don't want to run through a wall for Kendrick Perkins.”
Anticipating the Series Outcomes
30:40 to 32:20
Analysis of the current playoffs and expectations for key players and teams.
“Let's go to the West, the guy that has all those things it feels like.”
Impact of Injuries on Team Dynamics
32:20 to 36:10
Discussion on the effect of player injuries on team performance and strategies.
“Because I know Wimby hates losing, and we saw his spirit when he bounced back in game two.”
Evaluating Player Importance in the NBA
36:10 to 38:10
Debating the significance of players like O.G. Anunoby and their contributions.
“And on top of this, you know, Jalen Brunson is averaging about 36 to 37 points in Philly in the postseason.”
Game Predictions and Outcomes
38:10 to 39:40
Predictions for game outcomes based on team performances and player conditions.
“Hey, Bruce, also the guy in charge of flipping through the Hembo stats here, massive Knicks fan.”
Michigan Fundraising Event Update
42:00 to 42:30
Learn about an event in Florida raising funds for Michigan athletics.
“And so I came down here emceeing a conversation out at a football event.”
Breaking NFL Ref Agreement News
42:31 to 43:58
Discover the significance of the new agreement between the NFL and refs.
“By the way, Pat, breaking news, breaking news.”
Michigan's Investment in OpenAI
43:59 to 46:18
Explore how the University of Michigan's investment in OpenAI has paid off.
“And I don't think people really understand how big that really is at this state of time.”
NFL Free Agency Movements
46:19 to 48:24
Get insights on Juwan Jennings' signing with the Vikings and team interests.
“why they are going to be able to continue to compete in athletics in college and some other places won't.”
NFL Kicking Competition Insights
48:25 to 52:48
Discuss the implications of Brandon McManus being released by the Packers.
“Okay, so we talked about this, actually.”
Quarterback Competition Discussion
52:49 to 56:00
Delve into the competition between J.J. McCarthy and Kyler Murray for starting QB.
“Starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, Michigan man, J.J.”
Recapping Adam Schefter's Event
56:00 to 57:00
The hosts discuss Adam Schefter's involvement in an event and his ties to Michigan.
“We appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty.”
Feel Good Friday: Celebrating Not Ass Moments
58:09 to 1:07:50
The hosts celebrate positive highlights from the sports world, including standout performances.
“Do you want to go with the bad or the good on Feel Good Friday first, AJ?”
Introducing the Oh No Train with Dan Orlovsky
1:07:50 to 1:10:00
Dan Orlovsky joins to discuss sports moments that went wrong, transitioning from positive to negative.
“Now, do we want to go to the things that are ass?”
Forward Momentum in Football
1:10:00 to 1:10:20
Discussing the mindset of focusing on progress rather than setbacks.
“because we're trying to go all the way that way for a touchdown.”
Dan's Reflections on Tough Games
1:10:20 to 1:11:10
Dan shares memories of a tough game and its impact on his journey.
“I just saw an eight-sided thing while I was going to the bathroom.”
Detroit Sports Revival
1:11:10 to 1:13:00
A discussion on the resurgence of Detroit sports teams and their fanbase.
“Dan, that play pissed me off at the time.”
Humorous Sports Moments
1:13:00 to 1:13:40
Light-hearted commentary on various sports mishaps and funny moments.
“I will say that Detroit is an awesome, awesome sports city.”
Oh-No Moments in Sports
1:13:40 to 1:15:50
Exploring various oh-no moments across different sports, including baseball and football.
“Okay, let's go to some oh-nos happening now, shall we, Dano?”
Soccer and Goalkeeping Blunders
1:15:50 to 1:17:50
Analyzing soccer mishaps and goalkeeping errors with a humorous twist.
“And on the flip side, the Reds, they haven't won either.”
Hockey Anecdotes and Mishaps
1:17:50 to 1:21:30
Discussing various hockey situations that led to funny and painful moments.
“Yeah, this doesn't look like a great instruction setup.”
Fighting and Showmanship in MMA
1:21:30 to 1:24:00
A look into the world of MMA, including showmanship and fighters' antics.
“The entire situation for the linesman makes us go, oh, no.”
Alien Files and Football Beliefs
1:24:00 to 1:25:19
The hosts discuss their beliefs about aliens and the recent release of government files.
“Thank you for joining us there, Dan Orlovsky.”
Potential Alien Collaboration
1:25:20 to 1:26:40
A conversation about the possibility of collaborating with aliens if they exist.
Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback Situation
1:26:41 to 1:27:52
Exploring the dynamics and opinions surrounding the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers.
“i would just like us to work with them you know this is like ai inevitable let's work with ai You know, let's remember that we can unplug AI, right?”
Analyzing the Steelers' Future
1:27:53 to 1:29:51
Discussing the long-term implications of the Steelers' quarterback choice and team direction.
“We need to keep these open minds because our football teams might get better from this.”
Short Term vs Long Term Plans
1:29:52 to 1:33:08
Debating the short term success versus long term strategy for the Steelers organization.
“But what if Dano doesn't realize that maybe because Hunter, maybe because everything going on, that this is an Aaron Rodgers in Mike McCarthy's offense.”
Aaron Rodgers' Uncertainty
1:33:09 to 1:35:35
Discussing the ongoing situation with Aaron Rodgers and the impact on the Steelers.
“But, you know, a lot of what he said was right.”
Joe Burrow and Bengals' Prospects
1:35:36 to 1:37:11
Analyzing Joe Burrow's performance and the Bengals' chances for success this season.
“Okay, so Omar Khan did a Westwood One interview earlier today.”
Previewing Action Bronson
1:37:12 to 1:38:00
Anticipating the upcoming segment with Action Bronson and his diverse career.
“Right now that would be my pick to win the division.”
Quarterback Challenges in Cincinnati and Philly
1:38:00 to 1:38:30
Discussion on the pressures facing quarterbacks in Cincinnati and Philadelphia.
“I think that it's a fascinating year in Cincinnati and in Philly for the quarterbacks because, you know, they're three straight years without the playoffs.”
Transition to Action Bronson
1:38:30 to 1:39:20
Excited banter leading up to the guest segment with Action Bronson.
“because we've got Action Bronson on the other side.”
Weekend Plans and Mother's Day Reminder
1:39:20 to 1:40:10
Casual conversation about weekend plans and reminders for Mother's Day.
“Wife's going out for a girls' night in New York City.”
Family Updates and Kids Getting Braces
1:40:10 to 1:40:50
Dan Orlovsky shares personal updates about his kids getting braces and cell phones.
“So my sons are four months from last week, dude.”
Action Bronson on Life and His Knicks
1:41:45 to 1:44:02
Action Bronson discusses his life, Knicks fandom, and current album release.
“Hey, life is good for the Knicks right now, huh?”
Discussion on the Knicks' Potential
1:44:02 to 1:45:18
A deep dive into the Knicks' chances in the current NBA season.
“Well, I think the tournament's not easy for anybody.”
Action Bronson's Album and Creative Freedom
1:45:18 to 1:47:30
Exploration of Action's new album and his creative process.
“I just, I let it hit send, let everyone deal with it.”
Nostalgia for VHS and Movie Memories
1:47:30 to 1:50:02
Nostalgic chat about favorite movies and the VHS era of film.
“Connor has the last question for you, sir.”
Culinary and Cultural Insights from Action Bronson
1:50:02 to 1:52:00
Action Bronson shares insights into his culinary background and cultural experiences.
“then I could fucking, I could get candy anywhere.”
Action Bronson's Culinary Journey
1:52:00 to 1:52:46
Discover Action Bronson's love for food and travel, discussing his culinary experiences around the world.
“I need to be out during the hurricane when it's 18 degrees.”
Reflections on Artificial Intelligence
1:52:46 to 1:54:06
Action Bronson shares his thoughts on the absurdity of modern advancements and the nature of life.
“You are a chef as well, which I assume people picked up through this conversation we've had here thus far.”
Action Bronson's Unique Presence
1:55:27 to 1:58:07
The hosts discuss their excitement about Action Bronson's participation in the show and his impact.
“Grab a Bucked Up and fuel like a million bucks.”
Sports Landscape and Influence
1:58:08 to 2:01:44
Exploring the current state of sports viewership and its cultural significance.
“The amount of times that's been said to him.”
Upcoming Sports Match Predictions
2:01:45 to 2:03:48
The hosts make predictions for upcoming NHL and NBA games, discussing key players.
“But if Shohei Otani's on, you're going to go watch him.”
Injury Reports and Game Insights
2:03:49 to 2:06:00
Shams Charania provides updates and insights on player injuries and game expectations.
“I know Kendrick thought the Sixers were taking this one, right?”
NBA Game Insights and Injury Updates
2:06:00 to 2:07:05
Learn about the Knicks' injury situation and game predictions.
“Obviously, Game 2 was a blowout, but I think as it shifts back to Minnesota, I think we're going to be in for, I think, two very competitive games.”
Discussion on Upcoming NBA Games
2:07:05 to 2:09:54
Hear predictions and opinions on various NBA matchups this week.
“Alright, so you like the Knicks tonight?”
Reflections on the Season and Community
2:09:54 to 2:12:42
Explore thoughts on the current season and the support from fans.
“To our guests that stopped by, thank you so much.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Feel Good Friday, May 8th, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports! Are the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. We hope you have had a fantastic week, and I hope you're ready for the greatest weekend of your life. Why? Because it's the next one. Let's go ahead and enjoy the hell out of it. Sports are going to deliver for us all weekend, just like they have all week. We'll have a couple recaps of the things that we liked this week and the things that we thought were hilarious this week.
0:32Pat McAfee:We'll also chit-chat about things that happened last night in the sports world. Just know this. These Caniacs, okay, on a little bit of a run right now in the NHL. Feels like there might be a Carolina-Colorado collision coming for the Cup in just a matter of weeks. Hurricanes beat the Flyers 4-1. They have now won seven straight to start this particular playoffs. It's a special story in a special town with a special fan base that's excited to maybe lose their mind at a Stanley Cup dream. Now, how it all bode, we shall see. The Buffalo Sabres obviously have some things to say about that. Same with the Canadians.
1:09Pat McAfee:And in the West, it feels like the avalanche are for real. But if you look at this Hurricanes team, you think to yourself, well, they certainly got the talent. They certainly got the run. Do they have the gritness? Do they have the toughness? Do they have the togetherness? Well, let's just go to the end of the game, shall we? Let's go ahead and just see. 4-1 here. Time's running out. It's hockey, though. Okay? Up there, up on the boards there, about the middle of the screen there, maybe a little bit to the right, that's Stankoven. He's a 5 '8 guy. He's about his third year playing for the Hurricanes.
1:37Pat McAfee:He led the Carolina Hurricanes in points in the first round of the playoffs. Number 55, Big Rasmus Wistelainen. 6 '4", 205, go ahead and shoots him. Then Sellar goes in. No, we're fighting, actually. So Stankoven was just standing there. Then 6 '5 guy comes over. Boom, hits him. Then Sellar guy grabs him. No, you're actually, we're fighting. Yeah. You think you're going to win 4-1 and nothing's going to happen? Now let's look to the left here. Okay, let's look to the left over here. You have Shane Gostaspier. Gostaspier. Gostaspier, who played for the Flyers for a long time. Okay, now he's tangling it up with Big 55.
2:08Pat McAfee:Okay, Big 55, because he just got into it. He had to grab somebody. Seller picked up his fight. They start fighting on the left side. This guy's saying, hey, we're done. We're good. Everybody's good. Seller's trying to get some shots back. Stank Owen's like, you know what? You can't just body me like this. And then we got a Jake Snake DDT. Boom! At the very end, eat some ice, pal. Okay, so I'm just talking about, okay, old buddy, Dostaspier, came in and stuck up for his teammate. Yeah. Stankoven, 5 '8", okay, getting bodied there by a 6 '4 guy and then passed off to Cellar who jumps in and forces him to fight.
2:40Pat McAfee:You saw at the very end of that, Stankoven's throwing lefts at the end. We got Jake the Snake, Roberts DDT's happening. It feels like the Canes. Uh-huh. Yeah, they'll do it. The Tigers are big, strong, tough, bully teams. Physical team. The Hurricanes, I think they're talented, and obviously these boys are ready to brawl. I think that's what I saw as the game was ending. And any time you get a chance to see one of these in real life, you know that boom could be dead. So we have no idea what the state of Rasmussen is after his head obviously bounced off the ice there. But I like the Hurricanes a lot.
3:15Pat McAfee:I like the NHL. And then in the NBA, Stons continue to do what the Stons are doing. The Stones. The Stones, the Pistons. And we learned that it's mostly the what up there in Michigan. That makes sense. Sure, it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. From areas that aren't necessarily Detroit on the internet. But the Stones and the Detroit Pistons win again. Story of that one, James Harden's not good at basketball in the playoffs. What's the deal? We'll ask Kendrick Perkins here in a matter of moments. I'm sure he's going to have a lot of thoughts on that. And then last night, also a big story.
3:44Pat McAfee:LeBron and the Lakers are getting screwed by the refs. What? Again? It's rigged against the Los Angeles Lakers and LeBron James for Oklahoma City. Big City OKC. Los Angeles Lakers and LeBron James, it's rigged against them for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Now, if this was to be rigged in that fashion, I'd like to say to Adam Silver, congratulations on rigging something for a small town. That's good for sports. First time ever. That's good for sports. And the Oklahoma City people deserve it. We've seen them show up in a massive way. Obviously, there's like a 30 for 30 about how great they are as a fan base.
4:19Pat McAfee:And the Pacers fans and the Oklahoma City fans got a chance to really experience a great run there in the finals last year. But if they were rigging this for the Oklahoma City Thunder, that would be awesome. Just like that never happens seemingly to the small towns and the small fan bases and everything like that. But it certainly does look like this Oklahoma City team, every time they play, there's a question on what's going on with the refs. Yeah. And it's not just fans saying this. Now it's actual coaches and players coming out being like, hey, this is what it is. They're cutting back clips of people and they're having lip readers say, this shit is rigged whenever they're playing against the Oklahoma City team.
4:54Pat McAfee:Are they better at getting fouls than everybody else? Are they better at embellishing it? Or do the refs like the small-town story just naturally and all of a sudden they're starting to give it up for these guys? We'll ask Perkins about it all. It is a hot conversation in the streets. Speaking of hot conversation in the streets, congratulations to Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Wow. Take a trip down memory lane. Talks to tables here at Boston Conner and one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP town. We watch that. We turn it on. It was appointment television. Shout out to both of them kind of going in there.
5:22Pat McAfee:It was a nice tell of the tape there. Like the last 16 years, a lot of people have been trying to kind of emulate. Sure. Either Stephen A. or Skip Bayless or both of them at the same time. A lot of shows, a lot of sports media personalities. And obviously, whenever two master debaters master debate against each other right in each other's faces. Yeah. You know, you can get some really magical moments in there. They certainly created a lot of those. throughout the times. There was a lot of people chasing those. I think there have become great debaters in sports television that aren't named Stephen A.
5:49Pat McAfee:and Skip. But I think those two were so good at what they did back in the day in 2012, 14 years ago, that everybody else thought that was the only way to do sports television. So getting them back in the same room earlier, that was a good time. A great time. Skip Bayless threw some heat. Los Angeles, fakers. Oh! Got him! Yeah, and they'll smoke you with pot. Yeah. Points off turnovers. I believe he also said playoff P, but he spelled it P-E-E. Oh! It was good to S-E-E those two on my TV, I will say. It was good to see that because I forgot it. I was taking notes the entire time, so be prepared for a good show.
6:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, be prepared for a good show. It was fun, man. Good for them. Hey, congratulations to you two. Oh, legends, man. Good run. You guys did it. Changed the entire course of sports media, television, and in doing so, obviously, I think both. lived great lives, I think, from my understanding, and also influenced sports. So good for them. I hope they had a great time. And I hope the catching up was fun, too. You know, anytime you don't really talk to somebody and maybe there's potential fallout or anything, animosity, nice for them to catch up and fun, good for sport. Joining us now, live from Anattican, Ohio, is a man who's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion.
7:02Pat McAfee:I'm surprised we got him this early. Yeah. I thought he'd be scrolling those files that were just released. He probably already did. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk! Standing those alien files. Yeah, I mean, has anything new come out? Have you checked them out in depth? I haven't seen anything new. So what I found, because I've been eagerly awaiting this day for a long time. I think anybody that knows me knows that this is probably the one thing I've been thinking about, you know, from the beginning and openly talking about. Just wondering, as somebody that did a lot of moon watching, you know, somebody that didn't fall asleep much and was just looking up, just always wondered.
7:34Pat McAfee:And obviously certainly had an open mind. and then you hear some people talking it's like okay let's go let's go ahead and uh do this and then to think we're alone in this whole thing would be crazy that'd be crazy just with it with how big it is but if we weren't alone that would obviously have to change a lot of opinions and thoughts and religions potentially and like uh you know everything in the world so such a hot such an awesome topic i think just to kind of visualize from all different angles and then you run into somebody and they're like i saw you it's all i'm gonna get a chase i saw a thing it's like why would you lie to me i don't know why you would lie to me yeah it feels like you have a pretty important title you're not a complete whack job uh and then you know the internet kind of does what the internet does and now you don't know what's fake and what is real and then they put out this entire uh uap on i dare unidentified aerial phenomena uh files out it's like okay what's real in it what now who's gonna go joe rogan's going through who's going through this to tell me what is real what's inside those craft what's inside the craft that we see on the video what that's what i want to see.
8:32Like, show me what's inside. Yeah, what if
8:34Pat McAfee:we get a look inside and actually, just like it's been right in front of our faces, there's 45 Wembees just in a bunch of these things. Yeah. Just kind of waiting to come down and just do whatever. What if he is an actual alien? His symbol is an alien. We've been watching him. He has to be. Guy's hanging with monks and Kevin Garnett. Look at the graphic. His logo is an alien head. What if, in these files, inside one of these things that they're showing us floating around in the United Arab Emirates over there by the nuclear facilities, all that type of stuff. What if inside it's just a bunch of little baby little Wembees and they're just training their hands, training their feet, doing all that, and then, boom, they grow.
9:10Pat McAfee:What if the other one is just a bunch of little Elon Musks? Yeah, we're never going to know. It's possible. We're never going to know unless who tells us. I have a good idea. Who's the guy from Blink-182? Yep, he is the guy. Tom DeLong. Tom DeLong. We need Tom DeLong to get in there and tell us if Wembees are part of these files. Please, sir. Lazar, too. We need his ass in there. If I were President Trump on June or July, whenever it is, I would trot two of these things out for the UFC and co-main event. At the White House? Yes. Maybe they've already been trained. That would break everything. Yeah, maybe that's what this is all a lead up to.
9:44Pat McAfee:Somebody has to go through those files. But also, somebody needs to talk about sports and how the aliens will affect sport, and we will always be the ones to do that. Right, AJ? Haven't we been pretty clear about this? Yeah, from the jump. We have always said we will be that show. And if, I will say, if these aliens start to think they're tough, remember, ain't none of them to beat any of us in an Oklahoma drill. No way. So if we need to alpha these things. Look at their baby little necks. Come on now. Snapping them. Could you imagine with your cobra? Seven inches around. Oh, yeah. Head and hands all day long on those guys.
10:16Boom.
10:17Pat McAfee:And I think about just, like, especially you with the way you were built. Like, think about the leverage we'll have on these things, whether they're little tiny things or if they grow into their full size. No matter what, yeah. And they don't fucking get gravity. They're coming from a place that doesn't have all gravity. You think they can't set an edge? No way. Good luck. And I had an affliction shirt. I could arm bar one of these things if I had to at one point. Choke hold. Right, age? Yeah, I mean, I cannot wait to see the first time that we have an encounter with a true alien and someone like Brock Lesnar chokes him out.
10:48Pat McAfee:Yes, that's what I'm saying. We have representatives, I think, that we can send out there that will protect us. Now, if something in these files tells us we need to be worried a little bit, I would like to know, somebody needs to go through these things. Okay? Somebody needs to let me know what I need to know. Now, that's part of the problem. Yeah, exactly. That's part of it. Because now who's gatekeeping information? It's already been out. Double-edged. There are a lot of issues here. All right. I'm reading them this weekend. Here we go. Okay. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who, I mean, hell, he probably knows more than we do about this entire thing because it feels like his league that he played in for 15 years filled with aliens.
11:27Yeah.
11:28Pat McAfee:All over the place. Start to finish. He might be one. Yeah, who knows? Straight out of high school, this guy. Big boy. NBA champ, this guy. ESPN basketball pundit all day, every day during the NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Perk. Yay, Big Perk! How you doing, Perk? Yo, what up, what up, what up? Anything about the UFO files? What if Wemby actually did pop out of one of those things and they got a foul out of that thing? We don't know. I'm trying to – I was just listening. I got to catch up on all this. You know what I mean? I'm tunnel vision right now. Nothing in the outside world matters to me.
12:03Football, baseball.
12:05Pat McAfee:I love that. That's actually outside world. Yeah, actually. Yeah, I respect that kind of deal. Unless they're in our oceans, inside of us, which is also part of the conversation, which you could – you'll dive into if you were to catch up. It's going to take a while. I think you should wait until after the playoffs. Let's talk about the playoffs. Oklahoma City team cheats. Oklahoma City team just cheats all the time. The refs are rigging these games for them to win to get more fouls. And last night, it did feel as if it was a showcase of being pissed off about the refs from the Lakers. Now, J.J.
12:35Pat McAfee:Redick, former player, former fiery player, I think him being a head coach certainly doesn't help the fact that, you know, he probably operates a little bit differently with the refs than maybe some other head coaches would that come up through the coaching ranks in a different fashion. I think he's a little bit more comfortable with knowing who they are. But it was certainly a display of, hey, you guys are ass. And then Austin Reeves afterwards, they circle these refs, don't let them leave, and say, hey, we got more to say to you, actually, before you get out of here. This felt big. This felt like a really big deal to me.
13:04Pat McAfee:Perk, how did you view it all, and why is this always the conversation around these Oklahoma City Thunder teams? Well, number one, let me say this. I love when J.J. throws those temper tantrums on the sideline. Those are the classic moments. If we could bring up a top 10 of J.J. Rantz and his temper tantrum moments, that would be great. Okay, that's number one. Number two, we have a problem. We have a serious problem right now, and that game last night highlighted it. You know, I believe that Adam, you know, I love Adam Silver. I think he's the best commissioner in sports. I love that, you know, he's a man of the people.
13:43and with that being said, he's going to have to listen to the people. They have a lot of upset fans that are on the internet, that were watching the game, that didn't like the way that that game was called last night, and I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't like it either. Matter of fact, I hated it, every single moment of it. It was nothing but complaining. It was a lot of flopping going on. It was a lot of no calls. And here's the thing, right? When you get players, and this has been a trend throughout the postseason, calling out officiating, you have to address it. And it's not just addressing the players with fines.
14:24That's one thing. But the officials got to have some level of accountability. And also, you don't want to get to the point where fans are sitting up here talking about the game is rigged. Because we do have to take in mind that what's one of the biggest, you know, things that make the biggest money makers out there? betting sports betting so we don't want to start missing and and having fans thinking that it's something going on with the integrity of the game so you got to clean up this flopping nonsense you have to clean it up last night i thought it was extremely bad i thought okc all across the board this was one of their worst moments in my opinion you know how i feel about okc you know how i feel about shea but damn it i gotta call it like i see it it's facts over
15:11Pat McAfee:fields carry on kendrick perkins carry on how long do you think it takes to change that type of basketball if it means anything because i remember there was a time not too long ago where the flopping was outrageous i think like i think it got really really bad and i always point back to like watching james harden that's like kind of my first thoughts of it because of how good he was at it all and then it kind of exploded it felt like then we played in like an international tournament yeah and we got our asses kicked i i it was a fiba thing i think where they weren't calling stuff and we just like got our ass kicked then it felt like the game changed a little bit back to a more physical style with the less theatrics.
15:44Pat McAfee:Is that an accurate depiction over the last few years, and how do you stop it? Legitimately, how long does it take to kind of stop? Well, you've got to get back to enforcing the rule of finding guys for flopping because let's be real. Let's call it how it is. Marcus Smart, LeBron James, SGA, Luke Dort at some moments, even Chet last night, all of those guys then had moments of flopping. And so to me, when you talk about how do you fix it, the only way to fix it is for the NBA to do more work, meaning that, hey, man, we got to get back to finding guys and put something in place for flopping. We used to have that.
16:27They kind of went away from that a lot over the last three, four years. But when you get back to that moment of you're going to find guys for flopping, then you clean up the game. I'm an old school type guy. I want to see physicality. Yeah. You know what I mean? I want to see guys get it in the mud, get it in the trenches, earn, not give it. Right? And so, again, again, the only way to clean it up is that the league is going to have to do more work, meaning that they're going to have to take a deeper dive into this, put the fines back in place for flopping, and I think it will work.
17:03Pat McAfee:Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, Perk, we heard JJ after the game talk about LeBron being so big and physical. he may be penalized at times because he is so big. And he did mention some younger guy or smaller guys, I should say, have theatrics at times on the court. Do you think, LeBron, is that a situation? Like, is that real? Because he is so big and dominant, he may not get the fouls that he should? Well, no, you know what LeBron is experiencing? He's experiencing, you know, the old guy, right? And when I say the old guy, I played with a lot of Hall of Famers. I played with, you know, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, KG, and I started to see the same trend with them when they was on their way out the league.
17:46Like, as you tend to get older, you know, in those, you know, 16 to 20 years played in the NBA, you don't start to get those calls you used to get when you was in your prime. That's just part of it. KG used to be mad. Paul Pierce used to be mad. And they used to say, oh, these young guys getting it. We see it. We see it. And if you go and look at the history of the game, as guys got older, they wasn't getting those quote-unquote superstar calls that they used to get when they was in their late 20s, early 30s. That's just part of it. It's part of the process.
18:21Pat McAfee:So it's part of the league saying, hey, it's not your league no more, kid. Okay, yep. Watch what it's like to be the sixth guy. Yeah, and you're out of here. That's what this is like all of a sudden. LeBron, we appreciate your service to the league, though. Keep going. Yeah, absolutely. And on that note, you're not getting shit. No. You're currently – nobody else on your team is. When Luka gets back, Luka will get calls. So you just need that hamstring or whatever to heal as quickly as possible. Okay, let's stay in the old man conversation, shall we? James Harden. Okay, everybody says what they're saying.
18:58I love James Harden. Go ahead, Pat.
19:00Pat McAfee:I love James Harden. Me too. Okay, I don't know him personally. I only know him from outside looking in, from his life, every moment that he has basically that he's documented and gone viral. I've seen and appreciate everything from being in a sprinter van with the Christmas gifts or the gifts whenever they said he was 400 pounds to everything with him in France at the fashion show. His lady getting the bouquet of flowers at the wedding. Yeah. Yeah. Everything about him. Okay. They're throwing a lot of numbers at me saying he's ass in the playoffs. Like, people are throwing a lot of numbers at me right now.
19:36Pat McAfee:Super stats people are telling me that this guy sucks in the playoffs. And I don't like it because I'd like to see James Harden go crazy. What's that going on? And just to clarify on that stat, okay, Bob Cousy was basically the only one shooting the ball for the Celtics. All right, so let's not throw any shade towards him, okay? Okay, and before we get to James Harden, I guess, we should talk about how sometimes there are some ricochet shots that do get taken whenever stats are getting dropped. Yeah. Perk, how's the week been? Have you been okay? Your name's getting thrown in some stat conversations.
20:07Pat McAfee:You don't even have a microphone in front of you at the time. That's what I'm saying. I'm catching strays, and I'm like, okay, cool, whatever, man. You know what I mean? You know what? I'm glad I'm on their mind. I'm living rent-free. That's all I can say. Well, certainly in the history books, and it should be that way forever with you. But let's get back to James Harden. They're throwing a lot of numbers at me telling me he's ass in the playoffs. Why is that? Is it because, like, defenses are preparing for him? Maybe that it like why do you think he does see the downfall a little bit in the playoff time as opposed to regular season and stones is this team the Pistons are they stop up at this point with figuring out how to play basically again.
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20:45So let me say this you have guys that are built for 82 games and you have guys that are built for 16 games for the postseason and the postseason is going to expose those guys who heart pumps Kool-Aid and who hearts. pump blood. And right now with James Harden, his heart is pumping Kool-Aid. And look, it's not really a knock on him. I think James Harden has passed his prime. The person that I'm pissed off at the most is Kenny Atkinson. Because my thing is, at this point, why are you not putting the team first? And when I say putting the team first, if James Harden has been horrible over, I think, what, the last four or five games straight.
21:30He's been horrible with his turnovers and everything, defensively, all that. At some point, you have to make a business decision and do what's best for the team. At some point, you have to take him out of the starting lineup and put in one of those dogs that you have on the bench, whether that's Dennis Schroeder, Tyson, Ellis, Max Struess. Like, you can't continue to do a disservice to the ball club because you're saying, and this is his quotes after the game, I take full blame for it because I didn't get my future Hall of Fame up, my Hall of Fame up enough shots, meaning James Harden in the fourth quarter.
22:10And I'm sitting up here saying to myself, Kenny, you and I must be watching two different games because it wasn't about James Harden being able to get shots in the fourth quarter. It's about him being a defensive liability. It's about him turning the ball over. And these are careless third, fourth grade turnovers. This is not like it's forced turnovers. These are careless turnovers, turnovers that you look and you say, well, what the hell was that? So, again, you're down 0-2. You know that physicality matters. You see that the others outside of Cade Cunningham, Tobias Harris, he has been having in his damn way since this series started.
22:52Jenkins is coming alive. Duncan Robinson is flat-out balling, and not just a shooter, by the way. Duncan Robinson is a damn good basketball player. Let me state that right now. So you see that happening, but you steady riding with James Harden. And I'm sitting up here saying, do we got secrets on your ass or something? Put his ass on the bench.
23:15Pat McAfee:Okay, I understand what you're saying because he's obviously not performing to the level that the team deserves or he should be playing at. But do we know if he can still go for like 35-40 at this stage? Because obviously he was with the Clippers for a while, right? The Rockets. The Rockets. And then there was the Nets. Sixers and Nets, yeah. Yeah, so like I feel like we have followed along with James Harden and I always just expect James Harden to do James Harden stuff. I think I saw him the other night go off a little bit. But it's like are we expecting him to go for like 31 night out of nowhere?
23:43Pat McAfee:No. No, but we're not expecting him to turn over the damn basketball at the rate that he's turning it over. Look, he's not the first option on his team. He's not the second option on his team. And a lot of times he might not even be the third option. I understand that. I'm not sitting up here saying that he should be a focal point or I expect him to go for those type of numbers. What I'm telling you is, Pat, he's been more of a liability than he is a help. And at some point, Kenny Atkinson has to make that decision and say, I'm not saying bench him. I'm saying, hey, man, he needs to be playing limited minutes off the bench as a role guy, as a bench player, not starters minutes.
24:29And I'm going to say this too. I'd be damned if we're going to end this conversation and I'm going to let Evan Mobley off the hook. I'd be damned. Like former defensive player of the year, you finished the game with one rebound in the series that you know you got to come with a certain level of physicality? Can't have it. Unacceptable. And look, I don't want to hear, I know there's been a lot of complaints. He needs to get the ball more. He needs to get more shot attempts. But it's not all about scoring when you can impact the game. Wimby has showed us that. Wimby put on one of the greatest performances defensively that we've seen probably in our lifetime.
25:11So, Evan Mobley, it's other ways to impact the damn game. Now, it's on Coach Atkinson to get you the damn ball in position where you need to score. But finishing the game with one rebound, I could go get two rebounds right now. Really? I know that much. Really? Yeah. Well, is that because you got the Dennis Rodman eyes that's going here? But I would stay on one side of the floor. Sure. I ain't saying I'm going to run up and down, but I know when they come down, I'll be able to get two rebounds.
25:38Pat McAfee:And you're guessing what side person's going to miss to? Is that also a big part of this? You're going to let a couple go that are on the other side of the rim, right? You're just hoping. No, it's about – when you're in the trenches, it's about elbows, positioning, and who want it the most. Like, it got to be a mentality. And that 7-1 with that type of athleticism, it's unacceptable for him to have one rebound coming in a playoff game. Get your base down there. We need elbows out. We need jabbing. We need sparring. We need a little bit of this. Fox out. We need to read on the ball. Oh, it's in flight.
26:13Pat McAfee:That's short. Let me go ahead. Oh, that one's going long. Boom. Dive. Let's go ahead. Let's do it, Mobley. Come on. Sick of it. My guy James Harden's getting murdered right now. Deservedly so. Mobley needs a little bit more of this. Agreed. The whole team. He's the most important player. There's a video about Mitchell not fighting over screens and other teammates not being happy about it. Oh, I saw that on the defensive side. There was just a full. Oh, that's disgusting. I didn't like that either, Mark. Well, I mean, hey, listen. The one thing Donovan Mitchell talking about, what he said is no pressure or nothing like that.
26:51He don't feel pressure. You need to. And if I'm his teammate, if I'm his teammate, I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that because then it shows signs to me that you don't care. You should want to embrace the pressure because pressure comes with you having to perform and if you do your damn job and play at an all nba level consistently that means you're going to get wins and and i came into this season into this playoffs and these playoffs saying that the calves were under the most pressure and coming into the playoffs donovan mitchell was under the most pressure as any other player in the nba coming into this postseason a donovan mitchell led team has never been to a conference finals.
27:36A Donovan Mitchell led team has never been to a conference finals. That is a bad indictment on him. And he has to get it done. With the East being as wide open as it is, you look on paper, and I might say, this is no disrespect to the number one Detroit bad boys, the Pistons, where they call themselves the nasty boys. But if you look on paper, and you say it's just going off who, by name, who has the most talent, you would say it favors the Cavs. But when they get between the lines, I see otherwise.
28:09Pat McAfee:Alright, so you think that Donovan Mitchell should take his team this year to a conference championship and maybe even a finals this year? If he don't, it's another failed season. And it's another huge disappointment. I understand. I understand. Hey, that's the pressure that I think he is a nameless, faceless opponent guy. I think that's why he says say everything's the same. I think that might be that. I don't feel pressure because every day is the same. Every game is the same. That is how he performs. I don't think you like that just by the look that you were giving there. I don't, Pat. I don't, Pat.
28:42I want a guy that embraced that. I want a guy that wants that. You know what I'm saying? It's supposed to be. Let me tell you something. When you're trying to win a championship and you're trying to make a deep run in the postseason, damn it, you're supposed to have a lot of sleepless nights. You're supposed to be stressed out. You're supposed to be angry. You're supposed to not want to deal with the outside world. It's a lot of stuff comes with trying to win a championship. Damn it. When you finish, it's a reason why you see guys falling to their knees, crying, popping the bottles of champagne, because it's a grind.
29:18It's a process. The only thing that matters is the guys in the locker room. It's a mentality. You've got to have that dog mentality. You've got to want it. Let's go, Eric. I don't want to run through a wall for Kendrick Perkins. Hell yeah. Look, it got to be in you, not on you. Hell yeah, Perk.
29:40Pat McAfee:And some say you're born. True. With it either in or on, pal. You know, that's what they say. But I've met a couple of the nameless, faceless opponent people who are super hippie that have become killers. But usually everybody that's a killer is exactly who you think they are. Yeah, and they go. Is that right there, what you just said? You know, Peyton Manning still is a psycho. That guy is an absolute psychopath. It is. In a good way. These are good things. Nellie Korda, who might go down as the best LPGA golfer, she said the other day, I'm a psycho. You know, you watch the last dance with Michael Jordan, psycho.
30:14Pat McAfee:LeBron James is 41, psycho. Wayne Gretzky, psycho. Serena Williams, psycho. Tiger, psycho. That is kind of what, and this is in the most positive way, but they are crazy in the competitive sense. That is the psychosis that I am diagnosis seeing them with, I think is the proper way to describe that. But it is a little, what you just described there, I would like my daughter and future baby boy to listen to, like, hey, this is what you need to be the greatest of all time. Can Spidey get it done? We shall see. Let's go to the West, the guy that has all those things it feels like. Go ahead, Con Man.
30:47Yeah, Perk, he's talking about Wemby and also possibly Ant. It feels like the Minnesota and Spurs kind of combination of the two. are that exact thing, and they both want that moment, want that pressure. What do you think about the series now? You said if Minnesota won game two, then they would probably sweep. They didn't. Spurs get it done. Is this probably heading to seven? We got game three tonight. What are you expecting? And do you think the Spurs kind of go on the road and make another statement, or do you see a big bounce back for Ant-Man and the Wolves? Well, look, I believe we're in for a brawl for it all.
31:22I think this series is going to go seven games. And the most important thing that I took away, the biggest takeaway that I had from that game was they started talking noise. They started getting in the trenches and mixing it up a little bit. That's the energy you want to see. Coach Finch said they got pumped. And then all of a sudden you hear Anthony Edwards saying, hey, man, listen, we came out cool. They did what they were supposed to do. You know, basically they kick their ass, right? They kick their ass. But I'm going to tell you this, it's going to be crazy in that arena in Minnesota tonight.
32:02It's going to be rocking in there. It's going to be, they have done an outstanding job of establishing a dangerous place to play in. And I believe right now this is going to be the most exciting, one of the most physical series that we're going to see. It's a lot of games and a lot of basketball left to be played, and this is going to be one of them. Because I know Wimby hates losing, and we saw his spirit when he bounced back in game two. But you know who else have a hatred for losing? Anthony Edwards. And I need – listen, I'm looking at Julius Randle. Julius Randle has to come with it. If I'm Julius Randle, let me tell you how I'm wired.
32:45If I'm Julius Randle, I'm watching all the Knicks games. And every time I see Carl Anthony Towns go out there and have a great game, damn it, I get jealous and I need to go and outdo him. I need to go and outdo him because that's who I got traded for and I see him over there making a difference. Damn it, I got to be the difference maker over here. That's how I'm watching. And it's okay to be jealous sometimes. You know what I'm saying? It's okay to be jealous. It's okay to envy some people when you're trying to get what they got. I actually enjoy that.
33:18Pat McAfee:Hey, I just got a stat dropped in my ear. Randall led the team in scoring in game one. And they got the job done. Yeah, so if he's able to do it again, maybe they go crazy. And I like the fact that you're like, hey, I'm going to be judged off of this trade on how he does versus how I do. You see him get one. I need to go get a couple out here. I love the Minnesota team. I love the timber wagon. I also enjoy the thought of Wemby going into that atmosphere. Oh, yeah. Because I think he will relish. But Wemby's not phased by then. Exactly. I think he'll relish it. I think he'll relish that entire thing.
33:51Pat McAfee:My only wish here is that I could get this into the YouTube TV four bucks. Yeah. Okay, last night. Yeah, today. Hockey is on everything else. Prime is by itself. Got two games over there. This is certainly something. Their coverage is great. I'm not knocking the coverage. I appreciate the fact that Prime is getting into sports and all that. But it is hard to, you know, whenever we've got two playoff series going on at the same time, obviously going to be difficult. We've got two big ones tonight on Prime. Perk, let's have you pick these games. Sixers favored by one and a half. Before you give that, Tone has a question for you.
34:24Yeah, Perk, a couple questions about this series. Obviously, OG with the hamstring is huge. What do you think that does to the Knicks, and especially on the defense side of the ball? And then, am I crazy? When I was watching game two and Embiid was out, Does it feel like the Sixers offense kind of flows better when he's not on the floor? Or am I just crazy watching it? You're not crazy. Well, you're not crazy. I'm going to answer this one first. You're not crazy. It does flow better the first, second, and third quarter. But you know the 76ers lost their game in the fourth quarter because they couldn't make no shots.
35:00Because Tyrese Maxey, he was exhausted. Paul George was exhausted, right? And so when you think about what Embiid brings to the table, he brings that balance that when your outside shots are not falling, he's going to put and apply so much pressure on your defense that, one, he's either going to get the bucket in the low post, make the 15-footer, or he's going to get to the free throw line. Because he's one of the most skilled bigs to ever play the game. He's unstoppable. Now, when you talk about OG and Anobi, one could argue that he is the most important player in the NBA for his team's success.
35:42His impact for what he brings offensively and defensively, I've been calling him this for about two years. He is our new era of Scottie Pittman. And if I'm the Knicks, I don't even think about playing him games three and game four. I wait to see what happens because I wait to see what happens. And then, you know, if it's in a must type win, I'm bringing them back for game five. But game three and game four, especially with his history of hamstring injuries, I'm not rushing this and I'm not speeding it up. You're up 2-0. And on top of this, you know, Jalen Brunson is averaging about 36 to 37 points in Philly in the postseason.
36:24I know that's his second home because of his Villanova days, but damn. He's averaging 36 to 37 points in Philly over the past two seasons. So he's very comfortable going into that arena. So you've got to expect that big body Brunson and Carl Anthony Towns, even without OG, they could go in there and steal one. I don't believe they get game three. I think Philly gets that one. But I think they got enough to still win, and that will probably be game four.
36:58Pat McAfee:Okay, so I appreciate you saying he's the most important player to his team, and then saying they still could win one without him. We got a Wemby existing out here. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. I know what you meant. But, Pat, we pulled up some numbers yesterday. I don't have the graphic on NBA today. And it showed his impact on both ends of the floor, like some real nerdy numbers. You know what I'm saying? But it caught my eye. And it showed his impact on what he brings offensively and defensively. I want you to think about this for a second. There's no knock to Wimby. No, no. We're complimenting both guys.
37:40Pat McAfee:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I want you to think. In game two, in the second half, Mike Brown chose to go with a small ball lineup when Carl Anthony Towns was out the game. You know who was at the center position? O.G. Ananobi. And he did an outstanding job on both ends. Like, he is one of those guys, like, when you talk about the ultimate 3 and D guy, he's that. He's that. He's that. We need to put a little bit more respect on O.G. Ananobi's name, is what Perkins was just saying there. They are quick over here. Yeah. Shout out to the production crew. Good work, Foxy. Hey, Bruce, also the guy in charge of flipping through the Hembo stats here, massive Knicks fan.
38:28Pat McAfee:So he could not wait to get this thing out. Oh, okay. This thing had been sitting in queue here for about, you know. Most underrated player in the league, OG Ananoga. There it is. He couldn't wait. That's not what the graphic said. No doubt. Highest true shooting percentage by 20 point per game score in playoff history, says O.G. Ananobi. Good luck to him in his recovery. I also appreciate the fact that you're saying, let's go ahead and rest that guy for the long term. Okay, so who do you got? Let's hear your picks then for tonight's games. You like... I got the 76ers. I got the 76ers. Yeah, they're going to protect the crib, even though it's going to be infested with a lot of Knicks fans.
39:05Okay, I got the 76ers. But then in that Minnesota game, I got Minnesota. They coach called them out. It's going to be rocking. He said they got pumped. They will respond. Anthony Edwards, even though he gives the best postgame interviews that I've seen in a long time, he had a little smirk on his face, but he was pissed off. I think it's going to be close, but I think, you know, Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves are going to pull it out. The role players, Bones Holland, you know, Terrence Shannon, they're going to make shots and play better at home. They're going to feed off the energy of the crowd, and Minnesota is going to go up 2-1 after tonight.
39:46Pat McAfee:All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. You in a robe right now? I'm in the green room. I'm in the green room. I tried to get my lighting together, but, you know, sometimes, you know, with the half cut, you know, I ain't got my makeup on yet. You know, sometimes it's just going to work, Pat. But, hey, look. You don't need my. One thing. You know what they tell me? Hey, you know what they tell me at, like, my church. Lighthouse, right? Come as you are Come as you are All welcome We appreciate the hell out of you Carry on, ladies and gentlemen Kendrick Perkins Yeah, Perf He's a legend The best The best There was a time Where he was potentially In our studio once a week Do you remember that?
40:25Pat McAfee:He came once Oh yeah First week he had it That would have been incredible Him in here once a week Just experiencing Kendrick Perkins Would have been phenomenal What a home run He'll say it He doesn't care With his chest He will say it. How do you describe Perk? Open. Wide open. He is very willing to kind of say it, which is why we enjoy him. He'll always have some hilarious angle in which why he is speaking the gospel and why he is right and you are wrong. I think a lot of people didn't necessarily love his delivery because it isn't like straight out of a journalism playbook. So I think they wanted to hate him.
41:01Pat McAfee:I'm telling you, hard to hate Perk. You know, unless you are directly being attacked by him, which I could see how current players would certainly hate him. Donovan Mitchell could certainly hate Kendrick Perkins. I could see how he would potentially be like. Julius Randle. Julius Randle. Just led the team in scoring game one. Okay, he could certainly do that. But for all of us, it's like Perk, willing to say it, does the research, does the work, and delivers in his own unique style. And he's a champ, 15-year player. It's like we love big Perk. Yeah, growing up, Kendrick Perkins was the guy for the Celtics.
41:32as far as enforcer and guy that's just going to go out there and embody people. That was not about that.
41:38Pat McAfee:I just saw the view of the person that's about to join us right now. We love Perk. I love you. You love Perk. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. What's going on, guys? Oh, gee. Where are you, Schefter? What do you got going on here, pal? You're under an umbrella of sort. Yeah, I'm in Florida right now. There's a Michigan event here, I guess a fundraising event through the champion circle, and they've got all these Michigan players, coaches, football program, basketball program, and there's a function tonight to raise money for the program.
42:17And so I came down here emceeing a conversation out at a football event. I mean, I can show you the field. I'm off to the side right now. Otherwise, we would have had some surprise guests, but we are now in the shade, so that's a good thing and happy to discuss football today. By the way, Pat, breaking news, breaking news. It looks like the NFL and the NFL RA have reached an agreement. We should hear word of that fairly soon, but that's going to come down soon. The league will be able to avoid replacement officials, but there's some information going around right now that agreement has been reached, and I would imagine we're going to hear about that very shortly.
42:50Pat McAfee:Hey, man! Way to go, NFL. Thank you for the news, Shefty. As you're at a Michigan Let's Fund a Better Football Team event happening. down there in Florida for the refs association to ratify the vote. I believe the voting hours or window opened last night because I thought we'd get an answer last night. I guess it was just a window opened. I don't know if it was via email to all of its members, but there was a window closing for when the vote ended. We didn't know when we were going to get a response on that. We thought if they went to a vote that means they were going to approve it. You're saying they have.
43:23Pat McAfee:That is gigantic news. I don't think especially with the number of eyes that are on the game now with the amount of countries that are in on the game the amount of gambling that's in on the game right now what happened before with the replacement refs was an embarrassment to our sport to our league to everything it could have ruined everything and i know that the refs knew that so the fact that they kind of bent and gave in whatever the nfl was looking for and the fact that the nfl did the same for the refs to make sure they get this done early i think here this is a couple weeks early congrats to all parties shefty legit that is huge for us as football fans That is gigantic.
43:59Pat McAfee:And I don't think people really understand how big that really is at this state of time. That's a huge deal. And they're able to avoid replacement officials. And they get the CBA done. And there obviously have been a lot of discussion about how dire, dire talks had been in January, February, March. We're getting texts about it right now, it looks like. Yeah, there it is. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Okay. The NFL. Oh, yeah. It's official. Seven-year collector bargaining agreement. Congratulations. Congratulations, NFL and the NFL Ref Association. Seven years you have agreed to keep the game, the game, the league, the league, to keep the integrity of the game together.
44:46Pat McAfee:You two, great entities, have come together to become better officials with more accountability and a little bit more advancement of technology. And you, as a league, having the best officials in the world would be a great thing to happen. So you two agreeing to do that, congratulations and thank you. Hell yeah. It's official, say, Chef D on a beach down there in Florida next to a football field. It's official. In fact, Pat, we're going to tweet it out right now as we're going. We're going to put it on the ESPN alert. You're going to get all the news here on all the platforms as we're doing this because this is what we do.
45:17We try to multitask, so we're going to send out all the information everywhere. Well, how's the Wi-Fi down there? The Wi-Fi's bad. Wi-Fi's bad.
45:25Pat McAfee:The tweet is up. The NFL and the NFL Referees Association. Good picture. Keep going, Pat. Well, I was going to read your tweet there that you were either typing up or you had your talk to text, which is why you were talking in a text form whenever you told us that the news was breaking. Whatever the case, seven-year deal. The current deal was scheduled to expire on May 31st. It goes through 2032. Congrats to all parties. And I love the photo you chose to use there. Yeah, good compromise. They all look kind of pissed. Yeah, kind of pissed, but also understand they've got to work together. Yeah, and I think everybody's happy here.
45:55Pat McAfee:This is good news for the league. This is good news for everybody. This is good news for ball. Yes, it is. Congrats to football. Congrats, football. We won today, football. Okay, let's talk about some other football news as you're standing next to a football field in Florida about to raise millions and millions of dollars for the Michigan athletics program, which is not just football, by the way, a lot of Olympic sports, and you can act like it's a good thing for the future and all that. But what they're doing right there is showcasing why they are going to be able to continue to compete in athletics in college and some other places won't.
46:24Pat McAfee:This comes fresh off the news that the University of Michigan were one of the initial investors of OpenAI, and now their investment is worth$2 billion. The University of Michigan invested early in OpenAI. I don't know how they have an investment fund at a University of Michigan, but obviously they do. That makes sense that they have that. They found this. They get in on it because of the networks. That is now$2 billion in profit. Who knows if they pull that, if they have that. But that could certainly help you get a quarterback. Pretty good investment. That could certainly help. And Schefter's certainly doing all he can.
46:57Pat McAfee:Good luck to you guys over there in Ohio, AJ. Now let's keep it moving in the NFL conversation. AJ has a question for you, Michigan man. Yeah, Schefter, Juwan Jennings signs with the Minnesota Vikings. I guess how did this come about and what other teams were possibly in play for Jennings? You know, the interesting thing, AJ, is I was told that there were a few other teams. I can go back and get the exact list. I think it was the Dolphins, the Commanders. There was somebody else that was interested. The Vikings were the only team that I believe he wound up visiting at all. That was the only one.
47:31The other team, oh, the Chiefs and Commanders also were interested in Juwan Jennings, also expressed a little interest. Washington, Kansas City. But ultimately, he got a one-year deal for Minnesota worth up to$13 million. It's about$8 million in base pay. And so, look, I think that ideally you want to get these deals done as early as you can for agency, but he was able to salvage a pretty good situation. And now we've got a lot of J.J.'s in Minnesota. J.J. McCarthy, who's out here right now. We're going to talk to him in a little bit. J.J. McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, another J.J., Juwan Jennings, another J.J.
48:06Like, if you are a J.J., J.J. Spahn might wind up playing for the Minnesota Vikings this year, probably.
48:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, J.J. Watt maybe comes out of the woods. I mean, there's a chance that a lot of these J.J.'s could potentially go Craig. for the Minnesota Vikings. You just mentioned J.J. McCarthy there, who we saw at a wild game a couple nights ago, going crazy with the lads. And also, incredible, hey, you know what I want. Bang. Okay, so we talked about this, actually. The way he took his hand and put it to Ray here, it was pretty evident what he was looking for. Okay? This is a one-dap slapper here. Everybody in the world understands that. No matter how much chaos is happening here, my guy right next to me shows me this.
48:41Pat McAfee:I know what's coming. Everybody knows that's a bang, a boom, and a pow, and we're out of there. Okay? I like that he's doing that. That's good communication. That's good nonverbal communication from this guy. Might lead to better awareness on the field as he continues to grow as an NFL quarterback. There's others that give you a little halfie here. Is that a fucking handshake or a high five or a dap up? What are we doing here? I don't know. Some people go with a fist bump straight ahead, then open hand, then back to the thing. You're not letting me know what you need. J.J. handles the moment perfectly, I'd say.
49:12Pat McAfee:With a, hey, you know what's coming. I'm smacking the shit out of your hand. Guy that has a button down tucked in at a hockey game. So, I mean, that is just good stuff. Let's explore that conversation a little bit more. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Shefty. Seeing him with the boys being here at the game, it just rattled my brain. Like, is Kyler definitely going to be the starter, or is this an open competition, you think, going into training camp? Well, I think that – Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You're kind of – We have more news. Oh. We have more news. Oh, JJ. The NFL has confirmed that the schedule release will take place on Thursday.
49:49This week was six days from now. Thursday, May 14th, the NFL schedule will come out in its entirety, Pat. So we can begin to get ready for next Thursday. There it is, the news. Who would have ever thought Friday at 12.45 that the news is going to be pouring in here? But that's what's going on right now.
50:09Pat McAfee:Well, Shefty, listen, the NFL is 24-7, especially on Friday news dump days. And we know we're in the middle of one of those. May 8th, 2026 in the spring. Got a big weekend of sports ahead. Oh, yeah. And a bunch of NFL shit's about to be dropped on everybody's sports. And Aliens and Hanta Fanta. Yeah, yeah, you're right. There's a lot of stuff on the internet. Shout out to the schedule coming out next Thursday. There was a little bit of hubbub about them potentially delaying the schedule release because not knowing what platform the game is on or maybe they don't know which games or when. Our source says.
50:43Pat McAfee:At the league said that was not the case. They was just, you know, we're just still trying to figure it out. There was a comment made on a podcast before the draft by somebody that was like, ah, and that got kind of taken out of context. Now it's official. It's coming out on Thursday. Excited to see what games are when and where. Remember, the division games, okay, the placement of those are always big conversation pieces, early and late. It used to be division games are kind of as you worked in because they're the most important games. The NFL wanted to start with a bang with division games. So a lot of teams are having their most important, crucial games at the very beginning of the season, which gave us better football, but had very big, big possible ripple effects very early in the season.
51:22Pat McAfee:I'm excited to see what the schedule masters do this year. Now, back to the question. You can't say J.J. McCarthy's not going to be the starter because he's 10 feet away from you. More breaking news. The Green Bay Packers have released Brandon McManus, their kicker, after they drafted the kicker from Florida in the sixth round, and they paid Brandon McManus a lot of money. They gave him a$3-year,$15 million deal last offseason. They paid him his$1 million roster bonus in March, but they have already moved on from Brandon McManus after drafting Trey Smack in the sixth round last month. So there'll be a new kicker in Green Bay.
51:55So much for the competition that they thought they were going to have. They have now moved on from him. So, again, a lot of news here all of a sudden. We got a new kicker in Green Bay. We got the NFL scheduled next Thursday. We've got a seven-year labor agreement between the NFL RA and the NFL itself, and we have James McCruggan out here to go talk to you about the Vikings quarterback competition, which I'm happy to get back to if you'd like to.
52:17Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's expand on Brandon McManus there because he started with the Indianapolis Colts. I know him. Super Bowl champion has done incredible things in the NFL, missed more kicks than he would ever like or have on his entire resume. I assume he'll bounce back, go somewhere. Anytime they say there's a competition between two kickers, That's always one more roster spot that's getting taken up by a kicker, especially in this offseason as you're trying to accrue numbers and create things. I assume McManus understood the situation whenever this guy was drafted out of Florida. This guy that got drafted out of Florida bombs balls.
52:46Pat McAfee:We watched him kick. Hopefully he's good. Hopefully McManus continues to go on. Seven-year ref agreement. That is awesome. Schedule release coming out Thursday. Spectacular. Starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, Michigan man, J.J. McCarthy, who's 10 feet away from you, or Kyler Murray, is that an actual competition? How do you see that going? Listen, I'm not ready to write off JJ yet. Look, Kyler Murray's got a great opportunity in front of him. It's probably as good of an opportunity as he's had in a long time. When you look at all the talent surrounding Kyler Murray, he's got Jordan Mason.
53:15He's got Aaron Jones. He's got TJ Hawkinson. He's got Justin Jefferson. He's got Jordan Addison. He's got Juwan Jennings right now. There's a boatload of talent in Minnesota, and that doesn't even include a head coach who's obviously a depth and proficient at getting these offensive plays in and having the offensive production that Kevin O 'Connell has. I think I don't know you handicapped I think a lot of people believe that Kyler Is going to wind up as the starting quarterback But I think J.J. is going to give him a run still I don't think the Vikings are ready to Give up on J.J. McCarthy just yet I think they've got two good quarterbacks there I mean these are two high Draftics so it'll play out But I think a lot of people believe Kyler's going to Prevail and win the job but again I'm not ready to give up on J.J.
54:01just yet
54:01Pat McAfee:Okay I'm excited to watch it all unfold Obviously, Kevin O 'Connell's offense is one that is spectacular. They're able to sign another wide receiver who had other options than Jawan Jennings without telling him who the starting quarterback's going to be. That's how prolific that offense can be and should be. Hopefully, J.J. can continue to get better. And if Kyler ends up the quarterback of a Kevin O 'Connell offense as a diehard Vikings fan for his entire life and has a full resurgence of being the guy that maybe we thought or hoped he could be, that's a great story, too. Good luck to all parties.
54:29Pat McAfee:The Vikings are currently interviewing for a GM. When's that going to happen? Say that again? Feels like Juwan Jennings just signed there. They don't got a GM. So, I mean, are they going to get a GM, or is Kevin O 'Connell running things? Like, how does that kind of all go over there? No. They've got about six, seven guys that are on the list right now. They've submitted. They've got turnkey, a search firm, helping them to identify the right candidate. They've got a situation where they've identified all these candidates, and they're going to interview them. Go through the process and we'll see where they get the information from, but who they wind up hiring.
55:10But I think it'll play out here pretty quickly. Rob Brzezinski is the current interim GM. He's done a great job there, and I think somebody that has been overlooked there for a while will have an opportunity. But they've got some really interesting candidates on their list that they've reached out to arrange interviews.
55:25Pat McAfee:Okay, I cannot wait to see how it works out there. Grigson also potentially in there, former coach, general manager, who had, you know, not necessarily the greatest ending in Indianapolis, but did have winning teams. Kind of seemingly had to go back, earn his way back up to a position to be in interviews again. I had a nice chance to catch up with him. Feels like he's a different person where he's at now. Second opportunity is normally good for people in the NFL, or completely asked both times. But I don't think that'll be the case. There's so many good talents out there, only 32 jobs, just like in coaching.
55:55But there's only one senior NFL insider, and that's this man down in Florida.
56:00Pat McAfee:We appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty. Pat, no more things tonight. I gave you all I got today. That's all I got today. Well, tonight you need to go give it a little bit more. I think there's a lot of money in that room, Shefty. Let's be smart. There's a lot of money in that room tonight, Pat. A lot of money. Okay, all right. It's Adam Schefter, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Shefty. Yeah, I think there is. I think I know where he is. Probably a cool event. I don't know. I don't know. He's the emcee of the whole thing? Yeah, one of the emcees. It sounds like it's a Michigan. Do you go to Michigan?
56:33Pat McAfee:Do you have any tie to Michigan? Can you afford to buy a plane right now if you have to? Why don't you come down here? And Schefter's like, I'm there. They asked me to come see you, I guess. I'm there. Go. Yeah. This feels like a good room to be in, pal. He loves that he's a part of the Michigan. Like, he loves them. There was a chance he was going to be the guest picker for game day for Michigan, and he called me 30 times a day just like, is this happening? Is this happening? I'm like, I don't know. You've got to ask other people. So he's got to be so pumped as are we. We're back in three. Take care.
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58:41Pat McAfee:Sports! Oh, that sounds amazing, yes. Do you want to go with the bad or the good on Feel Good Friday first, AJ? I say you start with the good. Oh, I like that. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for five things that aren't ass. Yeah! From this week in the sports world, we looked around the entire globe and the sports universe and found our things that we think should be spotlighted as definitely not being ass. These things are so far from being ass that they're actually being celebrated for not being ass. Let's start in Madison Square Garden. Timmy for three at MSG. Known superfan Timmy Chalamet, who's about to come out with a splashy splash.
59:20Pat McAfee:Was it a game time there? He almost caught it. Obviously, he looks super cool. He doesn't dress like too much of an asshole. Certainly has a little bit of moxie and swag, but has certainly played hoops before, which is what we like to see out of megastars, AJ Hawk. Yeah, I don't even care if the ball goes in. Haven't you seen guys where they take a shot, but they shot put it, and they're not basketball players, and it goes in, and people freak out. I'm like, no, it's a terrible-looking shot. So for Timmy not only to make the shot, but to hit this sweet little step back and look like he's played some ball, I am very impressed.
59:48Pat McAfee:You stacked this on top of the game day thing. Yep. Where a new ball, clearly understood ball, the way he acts at games, how he crushes everything, the ping-pong shit. I mean, it's like Timmy's an athlete who happens to be a superstar. And on that note, we're pulling for you, Timmy. Great shot. Keep going, Timmy. Timmy for three. Cash. At MSG. That feels so good, by the way. Where's camera? Holy fuck. Not bad D. Not bad defense either by his buddy. Even if he was by himself, like if there was no D, I'd be like, that's good. Clean shot. That's definitely not ass. Let's go to another thing that isn't ass.
1:00:21Pat McAfee:San Antonio Spurs, Timberwolves, shot clock dwindling. Ooh, for sell. A no dip tip three to lead the Spurs as they continue to do their thing down in San Antonio. The timing, the effortlessness, the cleanness of it makes you wonder, like, how difficult is that actually? Well, we tried it out with Tyrese Halliburton, who's in the middle of a recovery from an Achilles yesterday, and he backed it home. But I'll tell you, it was not, like, clean. No. It was not, like, clean. And now, granted, Tyrese is coming out of an Achilles, and he's not necessarily the biggest jumper whenever he shoots it. But him describing it, him giving it a go, it was like, oh, that was an incredibly impossible shot that guy took.
1:01:05Pat McAfee:And how about the perfect timing of jumping and basically the ball just kind of coming into his hands as if it was like a video game glitch while he's jumping, AJ? I mean, this is a playoff game in the NBA, too. Like, this isn't some backyard game you're playing with your bud. So, yeah, when you hear other professional athletes talk about how difficult of a shot this is, yeah, you can't help but be impressed. It's a no-dip tip. Yeah, no-dip tip, no big deal. And also, a lot of people are recreating it and stuff. And even Tyrese, it's like, this guy was not prepared for this whatsoever. It's just like, hey, situation, one second to kind of react, buries it.
1:01:37That's incredible.
1:01:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, the pass was also money. Yeah, right. That's what I learned from me and Hallie trying to do it. The pass certainly matters. Yep. The pass certainly matters, AJ. You know, you can really kind of dictate whether or not that's going to go in with the pass. You kind of gave him the laces, though. It looks like you gave Tyrese the laces. Thank you. And also the location. Yeah, because if that thing's a little bit right, obviously we're jumping sideways. We're doing this number here. That pass that Vassell got from Champaign there was like literally right in. It was as if the ball was dropped into his hand in the middle of a shooting.
1:02:06Pat McAfee:Unbelievable stuff all around. Can't wait to watch them tonight. Let's go to another thing that wasn't asked. Let's go to the NHL, shall we? We talked about this goal already, but how could you not showcase it again whenever you're trying to showcase things that are certainly not asked? Hockey, so fast, so beautiful, so physical, so filthy. Absolute filth from Doc right there. AJ, he loses an edge. He loses his time. and then he drops an absolute dime top chad over the goalie's shoulder and the goalie's thinking to himself, wow, lad, can't believe you did that. You know, this is the first thing I thought of when I saw this was something I talked about in this program a year or so ago, the little frog getting eaten by the duck or whatever, and he's all the way in his mouth, but his hands are coming out, strangling him and says never give up.
1:02:48That's kind of a definition of what this play is.
1:02:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're right. I assume that Doc had the duck and frog poster in his house growing up in his bedroom, just like you, AJ. Had to. Had to. Make a play like this, yeah, for sure. Yeah, the resiliency. The never say never. The no play is over mindset is certainly what Doc is doing. And that frog that was getting swallowed by that long-necked bird thought that, hey, this ain't over just yet. If I can get these big, powerful legs around the neck, and then maybe I won't be able to go down. Turns out I think they both die. In this situation, Doc is the winner. And there it is. There it is right there.
1:03:26There's no way they're both dead. I don't think the frog can breathe. Pelican's eyes are red. He strangles them before he loses all of his life.
1:03:35Pat McAfee:But I think duck ends up not living. Yeah, lockjaw for the pelican. Duck's dead for sure, but the frog was close to death, but I think he made it out. I don't think it's a duck either. It's more like a crane. Yeah, it could be a crane. Yeah, crane-ish. That's a big frog if that's a crane. That's a big frog. Huge frog. King frog. I mean, think about the deepness of the ribbit this fucker would have. I mean, jeez, Louise. I've got a crane behind my house. These things are pretty big, right? Yeah. If this was a... That ribbit would keep you up at night. Yeah, it would certainly... Bullfrog. Yeah, it would certainly get you.
1:04:04I think the frog wins this one, though, yeah. You think frog just holds its breath while it does this? I mean, frogs, you know frogs, they live underwater, so... True.
1:04:12Pat McAfee:Do they live on... No, they don't live... They can be on... But they can't swim, yeah. No, they live on those cool little things. Well, different types. You have toads and bullfrogs and poisonous frogs. You never know. You know, we're talking about that big - Tree frogs. That's a bullfrog. I can't see his face. I can't identify it, to be honest. Based on the legs. Right, because it could be like an Andre the Giant version of like a little frog. Yeah. It could just be the biggest. If it's a bullfrog, it wins. Feels like a standing 10 count. I think they both dropped dead. And what a fight they both put up.
1:04:39Yeah, they did.
1:04:40Pat McAfee:And we certainly respect that. But dock lift is what we're saying for that Canadian's goal. And that's certainly not us. Another thing that's not us, I don't know if you saw this on Monday night, 330 pounder flying through the... You ever seen a missile European uppercut, pal? Yeah. That's what. Oh. Is he doing this to Otis? Yeah. And watch him just. What? Literally shock. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, just kind of throws him around. And Oba's not done yet. Hey, that 400-pounder that you guys love? Yeah. Low center of gravity. How about we take him to the sky and we take him down? One, two, and Oba, three.
1:05:15I don't like that. They did that to Otis like that. Did what to Otis?
1:05:19Pat McAfee:They fed him to Oba? Just throwing Otis around like he's nothing. That's not ass, dude. He's flying. You see him? That's a Randy Orton. No, I know, but I mean. Beat Brock Lesnar. Otis is the best, man. No, he's not. Not anymore. Not anymore. I'm not talking. The best is that guy you're looking at. This is why I gave up on this thing. What? This thing? The business, whatever you guys call it. You don't think I'm going to do that to Otis? What are you talking about? Come on. You're crushing all your great people, man. No, they're not crushing anybody here. They're building. They're lifting. Just like Oba does to anything he sees.
1:05:54Pat McAfee:That's certainly not us. What you're trying to do right now, I don't like it one bit. It's going to help Otis, too. I love Otis. Doesn't sound like it. I love Otis, too. All right, let's travel to another world as we talk about college softball and things that are not us at all. Here's Bree Ellis. We saw this from the SEC Network's social media account. Let's see what type of pitches she gets all game here. Oklahoma versus Georgia? Yep. Okay. Or Arkansas? Arkansas versus Georgia. Sorry, Arkansas. I saw Patty Gasol actually gave a great promo after her team lost the game. Arkansas's Brie Ellis is up to bat here.
1:06:28Pat McAfee:Gets hit. Okay, so that's nine straight balls. They do not pitch to her. Let's make sure there's no balls in the strike zone because if there are, she'll do this. Boom. Walk-off grand slam. First pitch that was in the zone all game. Brie Ellis hits a walk-off grand salami against Georgia. That had to feel so good. The amount of patience all game. I assume this happens to her a lot. We should follow along. I assume they know that if you deliver anything that is reachable for Bree, that thing is taking a trip out of town. Walk off grand slam after not seeing a strike all damn day, that's certainly not ass, AJ, for Bree Ellis.
1:07:09It is not. And I don't know. The only thing Bree Ellis can do now is use like a 96-inch bat, I guess, and try to get some of those balls that are way outside.
1:07:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, maybe. You know, the thing about it is her plate discipline and is one of her best skills. Second to not. She was the softball player of the year in 2025. So, superstar. About to run that back. Yeah. Did you see Coach Patty Gissot? Oh, yeah. She's not happy. She's not happy. Back to basics. Hands bleeding. Crisp. Hands bleeding. We need to work. I don't think we should run it just because I don't have enough walls to run through. Okay? Just know college softball is starting to heat up, and it's certainly not ass at all. And those are five things that we thought were not ass. Yeah. Now, do we want to go to the things that are ass?
1:07:53I think so. Yeah.
1:07:55Pat McAfee:All right. Well, let's hop on a train. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to hit the Oh No train. Joining us to host Oh No. Ladies and gentlemen, it's football aficionado for ESPN, Dan Oh No. Dano, how you doing? and we were hoping it was an oh yeah type day, but it feels like it might be an oh no Dan, no no day, if you know what I'm saying. How do I, how am I a part of this? What did I do? You're kind of the face of it. Yeah, this was supposed to be done six minutes ago, but obviously it carries this long because we want to celebrate all the things that were not asked, but we also have to celebrate the things that were maybe oh no worthy.
1:08:38Pat McAfee:And if you're waiting on hold there, we need to bring you in because you have been a part of a couple oh no's. We all have. Yeah. We all have been a part of some oh no's. I've definitely been a part of Smolikers. We're not going to show your biggest oh-no. Yeah, you are. Oh, no, we're not. We're not going to do that one. What big games? No, we're not going to do Fernando, Mendoza. We're not going to do any of that. We're not going to dive into it. We've got time for that. We just would like you to help us describe what you were watching in this week in sports for the oh-no train. Believe it or not, you are not getting dunked on this time.
1:09:11Pat McAfee:Phew. All right. It's a good day for me then. Well, actually, ladies and gentlemen, the first. Oh, no! Comes from a few years back. Dan O 'Longa, the quarterback of the Detroit Lions, being chased by a legend. That's my first time. He gives credit for the sack, right? Absolutely. I think so. I think that's the most important part of that, AJ, is who got credit for the sack. You got credit for the safety for sure for a long time. He got credit for the sack. And also, he's a Hall of Famer potentially because he's scared of safety into the other team. And Dano, I'm on your team here. If I was in that position, which I certainly never was an NFL quarterback, I don't know if I would ever get to that position where Jared Allen is over there.
1:09:57Pat McAfee:But sometimes you're so locked in, you're just not worried about how far back it goes because we're trying to go all the way that way for a touchdown. I'm not worried about backwards. Spaceships don't come equipped with rearview mirrors. They dip. You aren't looking back. You're only looking forward for a 98-yard touchdown. so you're such an optimist. You look like an asshole. It made everybody say, Oh, no! All right, let's go to this week, shall we? Let's go to a game for the... No. Would you like to comment, Dan? Oh, no. Would you like to turn this into a Dan? Oh, no pot session? No, go ahead.
1:10:30Pat McAfee:Go ahead. Go for it. Please, please, please. Yeah. One, you said spaceships. Aliens aren't real. Two, the storylines into that game... I just saw an eight-sided thing while I was going to the bathroom. had a three-minute break. People are going through the falls. I saw an eight-sided thing. I saw an eight-sided thing. Nah, dude. The storylines of that play in that game, we lost that game 12-10. Oh, no. Gus Perrott. Who was the kicker for Minnesota? Brian something. He was good, yeah. You lost 12-10? Brian Greasy? We lost 12-10. I'm bummed out about that. On a game-winning field goal. That was also the 0-16 season.
1:11:09Pat McAfee:Oh, no. oh so you basically caused that i don't want to die yeah dan oh no we should not have done that okay we're gonna put that to bed but all those bad days kind of led you to here though right both lions fans now you guys are super pumped up about your players going to pistons games and sit courtside and having celebrity row looking super cool right yeah we went on 16 we drafted matthew stafford he had about 12 great years in detroit ended up trading him for jared goff and now we got Jared Goff. Jared Goff. Hutch, Gibbs, St. Brown. All the boys. MC, DC, you name it. So, yeah. Dan, that play pissed me off at the time.
1:11:46But now that we're doing this, thank you for running out of the back of the end zone there.
1:11:49Pat McAfee:Thank you, Dan. You're welcome. Thank you for doing that for all of Detroit. Team guy. Team guy. From the Stones fans to the Tigers fans. Yeah. All the way to the Lions fans. And the Lions players sitting courtside. Aiden Hutchison looks so cool. Yeah. He's Detroit's oba. Did you see how cool he looked yesterday? Yeah, he looked good. He looked good. He looked pretty good. Good looking dude. Yeah, he looked pretty jacked too. He had sunglasses on. He even gave a, excuse me, let me hear it for me, please. One of these, you know, Hulk Hogan. Come on, let me go ahead and get that. I love that Hutch and the boys are supporting the team.
1:12:23Pat McAfee:I like that Jameer Gibbs is there. I like that the city of Detroit's coming together around this number one Detroit Pistons. Are the Stones about to rally the city? Are the Stones about to go on a real run here? Foxy, is life good? All because, and remember, we don't have any of this, if Dano doesn't run out of the back of the end zone back then. Is that not something we need to talk about a little bit more? That's 100 ,000 % correct. Dan, if I were you, I would be taking all the credit for all of this. The Pistons are back. The Tigers are back. The Lions are finally good for the first time in my lifetime.
1:12:55The Red Wings still kind of stink. Let's not talk about the Red Wings. But all of this is because you ran out of the back of the end zone. Thank you, Dan. And Ryan Longwell was the kicker. Ryan Longwell. Ryan Longwell. He was a great kicker. Game winner. I'm not going to take all the credit. I will say that Detroit is an awesome, awesome sports city. And, like, the whole sports complex that they have. I don't know where the Pistons' new arena is, but the football board field and Comerica are right next to each other, and they're sick. Like, that whole little section or stadiums on top of each other, you guys were there for the draft two years ago, so you know it.
1:13:28It's a great city.
1:13:29Pat McAfee:Oh, it's a great town, right? Is that the – Great town and then Little Caesars Arena. is also downtown now, which is where Pistons and Red Wings play. People are very happy about all of that. Hey, congrats, Detroit. All because of this guy. Dano. Thank you, Dano. Okay, let's go to some oh-nos happening now, shall we, Dano? Is that better to talk about others doing oh-no instead of you doing an oh-no? Let's make fun of other people. Okay, we're not making fun of, we're just pointing things out that are happening. Here's a Cleveland Guardians fan. I assume he'd been a fan of the team since they were another name.
1:13:57Pat McAfee:He goes to the athletics game in Sacramento, drops the ball, spills beer on date. Worst case scenario. Absolute. Oh, no. Situation as the athletics fan comes in and goes, shut your fat ass up and grabs the ball away from him as he walks off. AJ, that's a Cleveland Guardian fan. Two of them. And I'll tell you what, Ohio representing well out there in Sacramento, it appears. No, it's not a Cincinnati Reds fan. We know that. I mean, at least catch the ball. If you're going to pop the beer all over your girl, at least catch the ball in your left hand, man. She was smiling, so that's good for her. Why is he jumping for the ball?
1:14:32Pat McAfee:To make the catch. I liked everything up until execution. I liked that he didn't think about putting the drink down. I liked that he thought blindly with the amount of optimism and athleticism that is currently in his body. The last time he did something athletic, who knows? Decades, we're thinking? Yeah, probably. Him immediately thought to himself, I can do this. I like it blindly. No thought of gravity and inertia and all that shit with the cup. Just golden shower. shower. He's seen others do it. Complete gold. Just a beer golden shower all over the date. We want to let them know we appreciate you guys and her laughing about it all.
1:15:09Pat McAfee:That's great. Guy taking ball even better. All those things. But it's certainly in the moment. As soon as you see it, you can't help but say Oh no! Sounds like you're starting to get it down. Oh, you see it. Let's stay in baseball, shall we? Let's go to the bottom of the tenth. Manning's second. Cannot give up a hit right now. Cannot at all. Michael Bush hits a ground ball up the middle. Oh, no. Keep your body in front of the ball. Chopper style. Sounds so easy until you're in the bottom of the 10th with all the pressure in the world on you. Cubs in the middle of a win streak, and all of a sudden, kick it, gone.
1:15:43Pat McAfee:Ball is 0. Cubs win. They have now won nine straight? I believe so after yesterday, right? Nine straight games the Cubs have won. And on the flip side, the Reds, they haven't won either. I think they've lost seven straight or something like that. It has been a tough go. This has been a part of both sides of the story. And as soon as you see it, you go, Ellie, you're so cool, but... Oh, no! Let's stay in baseball, but mix in football. Dan Orlovsky, excited to get your take on this. Malik Willis, new face of the Miami Dolphins franchise. Go pitch one for the Marlins. Oh, no! Guy could hit the broadside of a barn, Dan-O.
1:16:18Pat McAfee:What the hell's going on down there? That's a tough one. Otton looks like he has a baseball background, too. Like, if you just watch the wind-up and the step back, I feel like I've done this before. That misses by 20 feet. Yeah, AJ brought a glove with him, which we like. We like that he brought the glove. Was he trying to throw a hook? Like, is he trying to throw a break? I think he's trying to throw it up there, Dano. He just didn't want to bounce it. I think he's trying to throw it up there. I don't think he was really worried about throwing a strike. He almost took a guy out. AJ, that misses by 20 feet.
1:16:45Pat McAfee:He almost hit a guy in the head back here. I mean, there's a light blue shirt, I assume, worker. I mean, he's right. Oh, you're right. Barely dodged. Maybe that's Malik thought he was supposed to throw it to that guy. Sure. There was a chance that maybe he just didn't know who he was supposed to throw to. He didn't want to hit the check down. He wanted to hit the post. But as soon as we saw it, we thought, boy, he's aggressive. Who knows how that's going to go down there in Miami. But as soon as you watch that, you go, oh, no. All right. You're not bad. A little dramatic, a little theatrics kind of hanging on to the O a little bit longer than he should, starting a little bit later than he can.
1:17:16Pat McAfee:But, yeah, we'll continue to get better and better. Let's go to soccer, shall we? This is AC Milan goalie Michael Minyan. They just got a huge win. Go ahead and enjoy yourself. Let's go get after. Actually, it was a 0-0 draw, and we're down. I thought a team won. That's on me. It was a 0-0 draw. It's soccer, obviously. This guy just had a shutout. He rarely fall forward down the steps. Yeah, like that. I think his cleat got caught maybe on the edge of that step, and then it just kind of lost it down there. Gravity. Are those steps just like your traditional stairs down? I don't know. They might be a little medley, they look like.
1:17:50Is it in Italy? Yeah, this doesn't look like a great instruction setup.
1:17:54Pat McAfee:Okay, and also thin stairs, it appears. Thin stairs. You know those thin stairs will get you because you slip off the bottom. He got stuck, I think, with his cleat and kind of ate shit after having a shutout game. Good for him. AJ, doesn't Lambeau have, like, some sketchy situation where I'm going down some, like, cement stairs and cleats? Is that Lambeau? Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. And the stairs are, like, that wide. Yeah. That's sketchy, dude. Like, I remember. You got to go down sideways. Yes, exactly. That's right before game. About to play in Lambeau. Here we go. This is the coolest night of all time.
1:18:24Pat McAfee:and then you get there and it's like, don't bust ass coming down this thing. You got cleats on, everything's slick. Now, obviously, we got Manjan going. Oh, no! All right, let's head to Liga Portugal in soccer. Sporting CP knocks it around. And then Zeno de Bast, who's not the best. Boom, bang, let's go ahead and pass it back to the goalie. Actually, let's go slide this one right by him. Oh, geez. Un-goal out there. De Bast eventually knocks it in for an un-goal. Vittoria SC ends up losing five to one. So this was just an ass beating altogether and not being on the same page and quite a little slot there by the goal.
1:19:02Pat McAfee:You know, the goalie had no chance to get there. You want to talk about own goals? I think that's on the goalie. Don't you think that's the goalie's fault? Once he passes it forward, he just kind of hangs at the, that right post. Why would he be hanging at the post and not, is that a goal? Is that a soccer thing? Yeah, I don't know. And also he should make himself available. I think would be what the coaching point would be here. You know, like, Hey, if somebody has the ball, make yourself available. Can he get the ball right there? I think he probably thinks so. I don't know. I don't think you need to go right back to the center of the goal because he's a part of that play there.
1:19:30Pat McAfee:He's passing it. You know, they're a part of that entire thing. He can't pick it up because it was passed back to him, so he's a part of the ball on the ground. He had his little triangle stuff. I don't know. Could be on the goalie. Let's do this next one. There's another one, Dana, that might be on the goalie. Let's head to Sudamericana. A team from Brazil, Vasco da Garma, is taking on a team from Chile. Oh, no. I mean, goalie. Come on, dude. Exactly. That's Alan Saldivia, who puts a sneaky pass past his own goalie to give all dogs a tally on, though. He looked like he was running in mud there.
1:20:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, he did. That one's on the goalie. That one's on the goalie, I think. I know the feeling. Yeah, Dano, you were running in mud there. Jesus. That's tough, though. We've got to be more explosive. The place is packed, by the way. Yeah, the place is packed. This is Brazil taking on Chile, obviously. People everywhere. Soccer is... There's no one there. No, it's the world sport. You just can't see them. Wait, was this during COVID? Yeah. Okay, potentially. Ladies and gentlemen, as you watch it, you can't help but say, Oh, no! That was not during COVID. I believe that was in the last week, although they got...
1:20:30Pat McAfee:I was going to say COVID. There's not many fans. There's nobody there. Dan, we get it. Okay, let's go to Garnet Hathaway. He goes to back it up on somebody. I'm going to go ahead and check you. Ah, actually. Oh, my God. Banana tailpipe. Sitch. Pause. That's tough. Boom. Worst place that he could potentially be going for an ass check and end up at. I mean, that's a situation there that could potentially be long-term. I assume you've got to get that checked. But you're certainly walking around a little bit like this for a while. He's skating like this for a while, I think people would say. Dano, when you see that, is your first reaction not, oh, no.
1:21:10Don't you think, Dano? Yeah, absolutely. my first reaction is i have no idea what the hockey padding setup is like so i don't know if there is an actual pad on the back there uh there's no balloon not it doesn't look like it i don't know if they have no tailbone protector i don't know i don't know hockey like that i don't
1:21:28Pat McAfee:think it's a tailbone we're worried about there is it i think we're worried about more south yeah who didn't shut the door not on the team for not shutting the door lock that thing and that's what he said i think come on you saw my ass coming oh yeah we need a back double or triple padded whatever the case when you look at that you can't help but say oh no all right let's just stay in hockey let's go to avalanche uh parker kelly in the middle of a little bit of scrum there with boldy who can eat it oh the ref the ref can get it right in the face and it doesn't blink though yeah well that's hockey and that's why we're punk boom and he takes a shot at him yeah cheap shot Well, hockey says any shot's a good shot, I think.
1:22:08Pat McAfee:Square it up. Little face wash. Boom. Punch to the ref. You can get it. Boldy, you can get it. Oh, you're breaking us up, huh? That's cute. How about this? Boom. Left hook around the guy. I'll tell you what. The entire situation for the linesman makes us go, oh, no. Then obviously, Dano, you know this from golf. Every once in a while, the sun's going to make you look like an asshole. Sepp Straka says, hey, you know what, everybody? Take a look at this. Whoa. Oh, no. Oh, Seth. Gotta get some lotion on that. And then let's go to South Korea, shall we? This is an MMA league organization down there that's basically like South Korea versus the world.
1:22:46Pat McAfee:No, it's Felipe Pereira, who's going to be doing a lot of the antics before the fight. And then it's Hyuk Min-ji, who does a lot of the dancing afterwards.
1:23:04I'm sure? Oh, cool. I killed him. I killed him. I killed him.
1:23:13Pat McAfee:That's a big one. That's a big one there. You better win. Who wins the fight? Well, I think you know. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep.
1:23:27Oh, oh, oh. Night, night. Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
1:23:33Pat McAfee:Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. Anytime this comes up in the sporting world. Boom! Yeah. Boom! That's two. Boom! That's three. Boom! That's four. And then also, remember what you did earlier? Yeah, a little bit of that. Hey, Felipe, all that talking. When you got into the action, it was one big, oh no! I like selling the fight, though. I do appreciate that. And that was the oh-no train there. Thank you for joining us there, Dan Orlovsky. And that's about all the time we have for you today. I'm joking, Dan. I'm joking, Dan. Okay, let's dive into some football talk after the oh-no.
1:24:11Pat McAfee:I got nothing going on. You're good. Yeah, you tell – well, you're saving the world by fighting the alien files, it sounds like. Yeah. Sounds like that's what you got going on for the next, I don't know, month or so of your life. I just don't believe aliens are real. I used to argue with Stafford about this all the time. Stafford says, hey, Dan, you have to look up – He's a big space guy. I don't know exactly where he stands on aliens, but he's obsessed with outer space or intrigued by it. Yeah, I think a lot of us on this particular show are as well. So obviously Stafford's like that, obviously.
1:24:42Pat McAfee:That's our MVP. Makes sense. That's our MVP. He's thinking like that. Our MVP, huh? Not all of ours. Yeah, I mean, he's our MVP. He's the NFL's MVP. We view ourselves as NFL people. It makes sense that he's a space guy in the entirety of it all. What if somebody showed you direct evidence that they were real, though? You would still have to not believe it? Is that how you are? No, no, no. I can get into that, but we don't. To my knowledge, I'm not the smartest person. I don't think we've ever seen direct evidence that aliens are real. I don't know. The alien files are out today. Department of War said, hey, here they are.
1:25:16Pat McAfee:What's coming out? We don't know. I saw a bunch of this, though. I saw a bunch of these things just out there. Yeah, there it is right there, Dana. It's right there. Yeah, I don't know what that is. i i don't i don't what is that you're talking about it's clearly what it is yeah that's what we're saying i do want to see them i need to see them though it's like great this is their ship whatever yeah i need to see what's inside you get one of those yeah i need to shake one of their hands you know i want high five times where in a glass box i want to oklahoma drill one of these things yeah yeah maybe a show alien zoo every main city needs one in a box that everyone can go and look and ask questions too yes and it has to roast because even a video now your your team your team aliens are real me i'm team they're definitely possible yeah definitely more likely than not yeah and then are you team like they are like from the movies visually or there are many black people on earth i don't know i don't know there's been so many things like the gray people conversation you know like that whole thing there's been a lot of that yeah that is a tiny little jug there i don't know make sure you don't get enough hydration there's just a lot of conversation about them a lot of different descriptions of them i don't know hopefully these files will lead to us seeing them and once again i would like to think that if they're so damn uh sophisticated and educated that they can get to us for files to even be open that if they did want to wipe us out they would have already done that so i i would like us to potentially if they do exist which i'm open to the idea that they certainly do okay i'm certainly open to that idea i would just like us to work with them you know this is like ai inevitable let's work with ai You know, let's remember that we can unplug AI, right?
1:26:52Did you happen to see the old X-Files episode that was going around this week? Oh, I hated X-Files. Did you see what was going around? Scully and Mulder, dude. In one of their episodes, the aliens released a virus.
1:27:04Pat McAfee:I don't want to hear it. Guess what the virus was. See? Haunter. No. That's real. I don't want to be haunted by these Haunter stories. That's just an X-Files episode. Because I think I saw what NFL player tweeted. Tyron Matthew. to haunt a virus in 2020 or something like that. Let's, hey, football, please. I'm not worried anymore. With that being said, I would like the Colts to sign one of these things if they are out there. Because I know they can figure out. The alien draft, like supplemental draft would be cool. Yeah, think about them getting to the quarterback. It has to be a separate draft, right?
1:27:37Pat McAfee:Boom. All of a sudden the Colts are winning the Super Bowl. I mean, this is what I'm here for. Let's move to NFL Conference. Even with an alien, they probably still would. Did you see what they did? They disappeared. They came back. Magic man, now you see me. Now you don't. Somebody goes put their hands on it. Tough to block. Yeah, absolutely tough to block. Yeah, that's what we're talking about, though. That's what I'm saying. That's why we need to learn. That's why we need to talk. We need to keep these open minds because our football teams might get better from this. And if we win the Super Bowl because of an alien, I'm cool with it.
1:28:03Pat McAfee:I'm still going to the parade. Now, speaking of parades, Pittsburgh Steelers. The hell's going on over there, Dano, in your eyes? There was mixed reports going on. A lot of mixed reporting going on within Pittsburgh. um Doran Dickerson scoring Doran Dickerson went to Pitt played in the NFL is part of 93.7 the fan he reported yesterday morning that he heard that uh Aaron Rodgers was coming in this weekend uh and I don't know if he reported the sign or not sign Ian Rapport quote tweets goes yep they're planning for him to come out there and do it then we're hearing reports that no it's not happening with all this being it seems like Aaron Rodgers is going to be the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback but it is not beneficial and we have no idea.
1:28:43Pat McAfee:What are your thoughts on the situation that's brewing over there? And are the Pittsburgh Steelers with Mike McCarthy, who are definitely in win-now mode, I think with the hiring, going to be able to do as such next year? No. What's best for the team is that Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. What's best for the organization is that anybody but Rodgers is the quarterback. Okay. I think with Aaron, with Aaron as their starting quarterback, they are a fringe playoff team. They are, they're not going to be better than Buffalo, New England, Baltimore, Cincy, Houston, Jacksonville, the Chargers, Denver.
1:29:22So you got to hope that one of those eight or nine teams doesn't play well and you kind of shoot over your skis. I think they're a nine win team with Aaron. And that's why I say with the team, yeah, like I get it because there's cam hayward and tj watt and jalen ramsey some of these you know long obviously two long time stealer veterans hall of famers all three of them they want to win now and so for the this this team this 2026 version the best thing is to have a quarterback as good as aaron playing but for the organization it's not because you're just going to be picking at 20 again i i tone you may know this it blew my mind the Steelers have had two top 10 picks since 1990 yeah two winning season and so it's great two top 10 picks since 90 and one of them is the 10th pick um and so I just I can understand and appreciate the history of the organization and the consistency of the organization but what's best for them is to fall back this year and to not be good and try to gather a top 10 pick and figure out the long-term spot at quarterback okay so you think they hired mike
1:30:33Pat McAfee:mccarthy they still have tj cam hayward all the vets on the build in the building right all the olds they still got a lot of the olds they've been around for a long time to kick it in a year no i don't i i said this to you guys a month ago aaron's gonna be the starting quarterback i said write it in pen that's happening but that's what's best for the team is not what's best for the organization that that's that's this is one of those situations that what is best for the team is for rogers to be the quarterback because that group can win but what's best for the organization long term is not okay so i can understand where you're coming from strictly because a lot of fans have been feeling this way about tomlin you talk about the two top 10 picks that's because they're always winning enough games but they never win enough games and they never lose enough games so they've been there in the middle of the draft literally for 20 it's like purgatory but do you think the team next year, no matter who, is in purgatory?
1:31:25Pat McAfee:Does Aaron keep you in purgatory? I guess is what Dan Orlovsky is saying. But what if Dano doesn't realize that maybe because Hunter, maybe because everything going on, that this is an Aaron Rodgers in Mike McCarthy's offense. Exactly. We love what you're doing. Just keep doing what you're doing, bro. Don't worry about anything. Fuck it all. Just don't worry about anything. What is this Hunter? This guy. Wake up! How big is a rock? Is the rock come with the house that you live under? Like, I don't understand. Am I supposed to know? Nope, you're not. You're supposed to know Paul. Everyone knows that.
1:32:07Pat McAfee:It's an entity for sure. And I think you'll just go ahead and sit back. Just sit back. Make sure you sit back. Just go ahead and sit back. We are on the internet a lot. I talked to a group yesterday. I was the only one that knew what it was. Okay, so I guess, yeah. that is the difference we found ourselves in. We live on the internet, so we kind of hear everything happening. You live in film, so we'll keep you updated on stuff. Just know the Haunter thing, yeah, there it is. Dan, where do you live down there? It's Patrick Star's house, right? Isn't that SpongeBob? No, SpongeBob lives in a pineapple under the sea, dude.
1:32:41Pat McAfee:I did not know that. I would have right there. I believe that's Patrick Star's house. I guess he's two down. He's next to Squidward. Alright, anyways, don't worry about anything, but let's talk about this Steelers team. Do you think they can win at all? Because if you can win another Super Bowl, it's the only thing that matters. It's literally the only thing. I agree with the majority of what Dan said. I do think they will be a better team this year with Aaron because of the coaching change. Will it be enough to get to the Super Bowl? Probably not. No. Geez. I said that, Dan. I just said that.
1:33:12There was a lot of yinzers and me included when, you know, Aaron, like when he's still not back, but was like, hey, let's it let's go with will this year either you find your quarterback for the future he surprises people dan being one of them or you win four games and you get your quarterback the future in the 2027 draft which is supposed to be much better a lot of people were hoping for that but the coaches don't want that the players do not want that i don't even know if the organization wants that at all so well obviously not because you know they want aaron back um but no i agree with a lot of Some of the teams that he said would be better, I didn't agree with.
1:33:49But, you know, a lot of what he said was right.
1:33:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, and he left off the Colts. Obviously, the AFC is certainly stacked. AJ, your thoughts on your friend Aaron Rodgers being in the middle of a conversation around the Pittsburgh Steelers yet again? It feels like this is back-to-back years of this. And then it was the Jets before that, then it was Packers. Like, anything Aaron does is always going to be a conversation. I think he knows that. I think we all understand that. But this one has become so dynamic, I think, because the way the fans, who are diehard and loyal and would be if you won, are at the point of feeling like if this guy, who already knows what the building's like, already knows who the coach is, already knows everything, doesn't want to come back, what are we waiting around for?
1:34:31Pat McAfee:And I think Mike's waiting around, and I think Omar's waiting around. I think the Steelers are waiting around just like they were last year, but fans can't really comprehend that, it feels like, AJ. Yeah, well, fans aren't talking and having conversations with Aaron and his representatives, as we've seen. Omar has said that and coach Mike since he's been on the job, I guess. So they obviously feel like from their dialogue they have had with Aaron and his side that that he's going to, you know, they're going to figure things out, I guess. Doesn't it seem like that? We're almost in June right now and it's still up in the air.
1:35:00So, yeah, and I know Dan says it's not best for the like the organization of the franchise, but I guess it's just short term, long term, right? Like short term, it's obviously better for him. but I just don't know how it can be a plan. Hey, we need to lose enough games to where we get to pick high enough to get our next franchise quarterback. I think that's hard to sell to anybody.
1:35:17Pat McAfee:I don't think Steelers fans are necessary. I mean, they talk about it in theory, but then doing the season. I mean, it hasn't happened in 20-plus years. Rookie minicamp starts today, and the mandatory minicamp starts June 2nd. So, I mean, we still have a few weeks before mandatory minicamp, and other guys getting reps isn't necessarily the worst things, but we'll see. Okay, so Omar Khan did a Westwood One interview earlier today. Omar Khan on Aaron Rodgers to Chris Mack on Sirius. Okay, also Sirius. I don't know where specifically Aaron is. In the world? I think that's kind of what that could be.
1:35:49Pat McAfee:I can tell you that Aaron and I and Coach and Aaron and Aaron's representatives have had good conversations since season ended and since Mike got hired. It's been positive, but, yeah, I don't know where he is at this moment. Okay, could be in the building. Maybe he's downstairs at the equipment room. Could be. Maybe he's in a bathroom. Maybe he's in a locker room. He's probably up to his ears in these alien files, if we're being honest. He was probably going to come, and then he heard that the files were getting released, and he's like, well, I don't have time for the sealers right now. He's had the files.
1:36:13See you tomorrow.
1:36:14Pat McAfee:He already knows a lot. I'm a little bit worried that if you are on the internet, you know a lot of these files that are potentially getting released. So I'm a little bummed out. But Aaron's not on the internet. Remember? He's always there. He gets all of his info from Mia, his sister. Come on. In-law. In-law. Which is also your sister-in-law now, you son of a bitch. Well, he hasn't signed yet. Let's talk about more things that happen around the NFL world. Joe Burrow looks super cool out and about. He also was training with the Bengals just yesterday. He had a full sled on as they're continuing to work out during the spring.
1:36:52They have the sports bra, catapult sports bra.
1:36:57Pat McAfee:So cool. But he has the black shirt underneath it so it looks cool. and obviously Joe Burrow is going to look cool whenever he does anything. Running full speed obviously seems to be pumped. Do you think Joe Burrow and his Cincinnati Bengals have a big bounce back this year, Dan Orlovsky? I do. Right now that would be my pick to win the division. I think it's obviously a huge year for Cincinnati for Joe. That's why they make the trade for Dexter Lawrence. A bunch of new starters on defense that just have to pay off for them. Two years ago, Joe Burrow has this historic season in NFL history. It's one of the great quarterbacking and offensive seasons we've seen.
1:37:34And they don't get into the playoffs because the defense is equally historically bad. I have very little doubt that if everyone's healthy on this offense, it'll be a top five offense. Now, part of that's got to be Joe. Joe has to own some of the health of his own career. They've got to protect him. I thought the offensive line was better last year, but it's still a challenge, right? Like, it's still been the narrative is they haven't kept him clean. But if he's healthy and this defense just gets a little bit better, yeah, this is, for me, the pick to win the division and absolutely matter in the AFC playoffs.
1:38:08I think that it's a fascinating year in Cincinnati and in Philly for the quarterbacks because, you know, they're three straight years without the playoffs. They don't go again with what they've invested now into the team and kind of given Joe what is needed and wanted, at least by reports. yeah, you could absolutely see it getting very noisy and him wanting out.
1:38:29Pat McAfee:Okay, last question before we let you go because we've got Action Bronson on the other side. Whoa. Cannot wait to talk to him. Chef, rapper, actor, content creator. What? Respecter of aliens. What? Yes. Unlike who we're talking to right now. It doesn't respect him. These things are listening. Thousands of years, we've got no evidence. They just released all the files. What about the fan might be a hybrid? That's what he's trying to throw us off. pyramids. Oh yeah, for sure. An alien would run out of the back of the end zone.
1:38:59Pat McAfee:Maybe the floor is off. An absolute burial. There was no reason for that. Holy shit. That's on AJ. That was so quick and so rude. That's on AJ. So quick and so rude. You're right. Complimented aliens. Buried Dan. That was on AJ. You know what, Dan? Have a great weekend, man. Honestly. It was a great time. You didn't have fun doing all that? That was not part of the plan. You were part of the show. You were part of the show. It was a great time. It was a great time. What do you have this weekend? Are you watching May Mayhem? No. I got a bunch of sports tonight. Wife's going out for a girls' night in New York City.
1:39:37Whoa. Nice. Big night for Dana with the kids. I thought you were a lacrosse guy. You're not going to watch that? Yeah. What the hell? It's this weekend. I'll be at games all day tomorrow on Sunday. All right. Mother's Day Sunday. Don't be an idiot, boys. Don't be an idiot.
1:39:52Pat McAfee:Good call, actually. That's a great call. A reminder to everybody. Mother's Day, Sunday. Yes, it is. Oh, Mother's Day. We thought about these things because we appreciate them. Yeah, Mother's Day. Thank you. Mother's Day. Mother's Day. I think my sons play Fairfield on Sunday, Connor. Oh, look out. That's a strong program. Tell you what. They know how to play. How old? What are we playing? Very good. Eighth grade. So my sons are four months from last week, dude. Last week, we had a lot of change in the Orlovsky household. Wednesday afternoon, all three boys got braces. Wow. And then the next day, I had to pay off the bet with them, and they got cell phones on Thursday.
1:40:27Pat McAfee:Oh, huge. Holy hell. You got to be monitoring that thing. You better have eyes on all these phones. Yeah, yeah. I'm all over it, dude. I'm all over it. Once HONTA gets in there, maybe this is how you learn about the world. So is this like an internet thing? Yeah. Yeah, everyone's doing it. Do the HONTA. It's not a person? Do the HONTA. Don't do the HONTA. Do the HONTA. We don't want to do the HONTA. I'm not doing anything, dude.
1:40:56Pat McAfee:Don't do the haunter. You don't want to do it. Dano, just keep living in your little bubble. And we respect it. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Dan Rolowski. Yeah, Dano. He's a 12-year-old boy. Yeah, he is. He just got a cell phone, too. Yes, he did. He's about to learn a lot through their phones. But he's not going to know how to wash their phones. I mean, somebody's going to have to walk him through that whole place. Yeah, just restrict his own. Ladies and gentlemen, a man joining us now has another album released today called Planet Frog. One of the greatest brains that I've ever encountered. I know him from the hosting shows.
1:41:28Pat McAfee:Fuck, that's delicious. Watch along of Ancient Aliens, amongst many workout stuff. Also rapper, obviously album released today. Actor, massive New York Knicks fan. Ladies and gentlemen, legend, Action Bronson. Yay! Action! What's up, Chef? What's up, fellas? How are you guys? Hey, life is good for the Knicks right now, huh? Looks like you guys are really going to go on a run. You got an album released. The Knicks don't look like ass. This is a good time for Action Bronson, I would assume. Oh, no, he's gone. Gone. That's Action Bronson football right there, by the way. Exactly. It's fading in. There's a Matt McConaughey movie right there, Inception.
1:42:09Is that Matt McConaughey? No. Yeah, that's McConaughey.
1:42:12Pat McAfee:Okay, so... No. That's Leo, isn't it? Oh, I thought you said Interstellar. Inception. Interstellar. I'm thinking Interstellar. Inception is the... Yeah, the dream. Yeah. Leo, the little top. The dream inside a dream inside a dream. Yeah, that's right. What is Severance? Is Severance a dream? Severance, no. Severance is a choice. It's an operation itself. But is that what you are when you dream? Ladies and gentlemen, join us now, fresh out of the action bronce. Yeah, action. Bro, some motherfucker called me just now and broke it all up from Portugal. I'm sorry. No, hey, no problem. Anytime you're getting calls from Portugal, we know that's a good thing.
1:42:49Pat McAfee:You know, Action Bronson's cooking up all over the world. You got to do what you have to do. Can you tell me about life right now for you, other than getting Portugal calls in the middle of a conversation? Album drop, nicks are for real. How's life for Action right now? I feel great, man. Inside, I'm battling demons, but on the outside, I'm happy. Well, at least you got music to kind of let the demons speak for themselves. Obviously, Triceratops. I just started taking GH. You did? I want to Well hold on So what are you going to get Jacked Because you do have moments Where you get super jacked up Especially with the working out Fully jacked Bam Properly jacked Look at this fucking thing Yeah I mean Let's go full screen on that thing So we can see Go ahead Let me get up in the screen a little bit We didn't get to see the full thing Nah wait until Wait until You'll know when I'm on the G You'll know when I'm on it Not yet What is your head going on What do you think will go most The head's going to be jacked Barry Bonds I'm going to hit 75 on runs Tell me about this Knicks team this year, Action.
1:43:46You think you can actually win it all with your squad or no? I like the way they look. We have a deep bench. I'm telling you, the guys got heart. They want to win. I mean, we have a path. It's going to be a rough one, but every year, when is it ever easy for us? It's never easy.
1:44:02Pat McAfee:Well, I think the tournament's not easy for anybody. You know, it's the best teams out there, Action. Sounds a little dramatic. The New Yorker's saying, you know, Knicks fans saying, it's always going to be. You're guarded. People say the hardest place to play or best place to play. How do you feel about the Mecca, and why is it viewed that way, you think? Mecca, it's intimidating to people because, you know, some of the greatest sports ventures ever have ever happened in there. Classic fights. The motherfucking Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus pulls up, you know? House shows WWF 1987.
1:44:40WrestleMania 10. And things happen at the Garden. One of my favorite things that I've ever watched was Justin Gaethje and Michael Chandler. It was one of the craziest fucking, I can't even believe that that was one of the loudest times ever. It's just an intimidating place. But it is the most electric arena there is.
1:44:59Pat McAfee:And I think that's been on display every single NBA playoffs. The Knicks inevitably break the hearts at the end. Is this the year that Brunson goes absolutely crazy? Tell me about the album release action. So what is today? doing a lot of chat about the album, bouncing around, letting it just kind of hit send and let the world kind of deal with it. What is life on album? Yeah, that's right. I just, I let it hit send, let everyone deal with it. I'm just talking to you. I only have capacity for one. Tell me about your life. It seems like you pick and choose to do whatever the hell you want at this stage.
1:45:29Pat McAfee:How long has it been like this? That's how I feel. This is the way it is, you know, like I broke my leg and stopped, you know, like something unlocked. It was like DMT straight to my neck, like Nuke, RoboCop 2.
1:45:43You know, like... Bar. Straight up. It's like it was inserted, and then I haven't stopped since. I just feel great. I'm ready. I'm just ready. I'm ready to run through a wall right now, to be honest.
1:45:54Pat McAfee:Well, you look fantastic. We've been reading through some of your lyrics and the way your brain pieces words together. Absolutely. Love. Can you tell me about the alien files being released? I watched some ancient aliens alongside you and your friends. Plenty of nights on my life. How do you feel about the files getting out there? How do we feel about it? I don't know. I don't like to read files. You know, I like to see substance. I like to see things. Yes, yes. At the end of the day, I've been places. I was just in Teotihuacan, you know? I was at the Temple of the Sun giving praise. I was at the Temple of the Moon giving praise.
1:46:31Like, literally, this was... I've seen... I've been to the other side too many times to not believe. You see behind me? You see that? Hold on. I can't even get a nice deer. There's a frog there. There's five frogs. That's like the five Italian families.
1:46:49Pat McAfee:Yes. Those five frogs? Five MEO. Lucchese. Gambino. Banano. You know what I mean? Genovese. Genovese. What? I just smoked some crazy hash. Yeah. Borin chem. Okay, got it. We nailed it. As soon as we started the what's, you knew you had to finish it. You didn't know when you were going to be able to get there. I respect the moment. I respect what just happened there. I'm with my man, Connie Gorgeous, right now. We used to drive uptown to 172 in Autobahn six times a day with 10 on it. Shout out to Connie. You guys made it. You guys made it, Connie. You guys made it. It's too crazy. Any car we can find.
1:47:37Now we're here. Now we're here, baby. Look at you. Five frogs. Smoking hash. That's it. Release it out. Dual G99 M5s. One sedan, one touring. You're the best, Action. Connor has the last question for you, sir. Yeah, Action, it's incredible. I'm going to be at UFC on Saturday, yes. Okay. Boom. Okay, thank you. Any other scheduling? I was at Shemayev, yes. Okay. Sounds good. Good to know that's who we'll bet on. Everything you say sounds like a lyric. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life. Is it hard for you to stay locked in on one thing because you can basically do so many other things?
1:48:16Yes, obviously. That's an obvious fucking thing. Yes. So how do you handle that when you can do so many things, but you have to kind of lock in on one? You sit and do nothing. You just let it settle for a second. You just take patience. It's like Lamaze. You just have to breathe through it. Love a good Lamaze class Every good sniper Should take Lamaze classes Control the heart rate You know this Control the body You know this
1:48:50Pat McAfee:Do you want to do a Lamaze class right now maybe Do you want to lead us in a little breathing extra I just did Tybo with Billy Blanks Remember the last Boy Scout Yeah I remember That's all I cared about I was just like yo I was fucking bugging out Because I watched him and Bruce Willis Damon Wayans every day. I love that movie. I got it on VHS. Did you do double? It's a great movie. Yo, I have 2 ,000 VHS tapes. That was my inheritance from my grandfather. Shout out. Rest in peace, by the way, to the legend. Fiddler's List. Fucking RoboCop 1, 2, 3. Walt Disney, like the King and I. Home Alone. Home Alone for sure.
1:49:33You got a VTR still? Bro, Home Alone. I mean, are you kidding me? Let me think about what else. Every lethal weapon. Duh. Die Hard. Three Ninjas. Die Hard. Cyborg. Yeah. The Matrix. The Prestido. The Prestido. Heavyweights. You got 2 ,000? We're going to be here for a while. Heavyweights was crazy. I told Ben Stiller I needed to be in Heavyweights 2.
1:49:55Pat McAfee:A lot of traction about this. We talked to him yesterday. He said he'd be interested in having Heavyweights 2. I think you'd be great in it, obviously. I mean, bro, I lived it, man. then I could fucking, I could get candy anywhere. I thought we were going to potentially go through your 2 ,000 VHSs right there. I thought we were going to potentially. We can. I mean, I know the whole top row of my mother's dresser right now. You got it, man. You're the greatest. Okay, hold on. It's like showboat, beaches. There's a lot of Bette Midler. Beach is a good movie. Yeah, Bette Midler, legend, by the way, back in the day, obviously.
1:50:27Pat McAfee:VHS era. Serious, serious. Imagine dropping into the VHS era and telling them what we have now. Now, on that note, one thing that you crushed. Rock Zone, by the way. Fucking Gary Busey, Wesley Snipes, maybe. That was right next to Beaches. Okay. Gary Busey's been through it. You know, Gary Busey's been living. Certainly made some great movies. He was also great in Under Siege 2. Yeah, he was. Underrated. Tommy Lee. Underrated there. That's a huge one. When you watch the VHS, is that in 360, like 380? How's the quality? it's on it's it's on the tv's on a stand and then the vcr is set up underneath it it's like a little metal thing and then i have a rewinder next to it yeah it's like one of those pieces of shit that they used to roll into the classroom yeah i got sure yeah the project yeah i got those good days substitute teacher days okay let's talk about something i'm not trying to mess around with it because these are precious pieces of film that's right they are precious pieces of film that was back when they were filmed actually you know as opposed to digital shit i mean it's on actual tape It's on tape.
1:51:28That's because you respect the art, obviously. I really do. I'm of the arts. I'm of the land and of nature. Hell yeah. And of the sea.
1:51:38Pat McAfee:I mean, you really are. I think that is something we would all... I mean, I'm a seaman, if there's anything I am. Yeah, coxman. I am a seaman. Yeah, you certainly are. Coxman, seaman. We're all seaman. Well, at one point. But I'm truly a waterman. Okay. Out there in the lakes or the rivers? No, on ocean. In ocean. I need lots of waves. I need sets from Tibet. Of course. I need to be out during the hurricane when it's 18 degrees. Perfect storm. Are you going belly up or belly down? No, no. Me, I only boogie. I'm a sponger. I'm a dick dragger. Yep. I ride a boogie board, a.k.a. a body board. Yep.
1:52:23I'm head first like a crocodile only. See, now I ain't fucking around. Who the hell is this? Is that Portugal? Is that a call from Portugal? This is the second. Hold on. Nah, this. Let me hold on. There it is. All right, boom. All right, boom. We made it good, though. They're always trying to catch me. Never. No one calls me when I'm not doing anything. And when I'm doing something, this is what happens.
1:52:46Pat McAfee:Okay, we got about a minute and a half to a hard out. You are a chef as well, which I assume people picked up through this conversation we've had here thus far. Tone has the last question for you. Yeah, you are, Action. And we talk about it a lot. You think they would have picked that up from this? Yes, definitely. Because you're a man of culture. You're a man of the world. You do everything, Action. We always talk about it. Hey, which country has the best food? Who has the best cuisine? Why is it Italy? Recently, I've been chasing the Silk Road. A lot of the stands, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan.
1:53:20Sure. Uzbekistan. Good stuff. some of my favorite kebab just interesting animals under the ground some of my favorite stuff
1:53:30Pat McAfee:okay last question here Connor has it for you yeah I actually have to ask what are your thoughts on artificial intelligence it feels like it is something that you would have some sort of take on that you've thought about deeply I mean it's really not that much of a deep thought like just think about this like what the fuck are we doing right now well said That's all you really need to think about All this shit is ridiculous It's all silly It is Everything's silly You have to adapt to life This is where we're at You either fight for your right Or you lay down and die See you on Monday Goodbye Hey that was a perfect wrap up there You're the man You're the man He was amazing
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1:55:33Pat McAfee:I should have expected that. No, I did not put much thought into what that segment was going to be like. I just thought, man, I know action pretty good. I feel like we should be able to bop this thing around. I should have known he was coming in here brain wide open. Did we know that he made the not my chair, not my problem video? Yeah, it could have been him. That's his voice. Tying knots. And that's his brain. I promise you that's him. Hanging on to every word. That's all I could think about the entire time. Sidewalks. That's him. Oh, Mr. Walk Down Me. Mr. Walk Down Me, I'll lead you to it. Think about how he just talked.
1:56:07His voice, his brain, and that video.
1:56:09Pat McAfee:How about Connie too? Behind the camera. They used to drive that thing upstay. Fucking whatever. Whoever can get it. That's from Tibet. I loved you asking. You have any issues sticking to one thing? Yeah, obviously. Is anybody watching this? Yeah. Hey, I feel like people could pick up that you were a chef. You think they could pick that up from this? Yeah. No. That's a valid question for me. Got over 2 ,000 VHSs. I thought he was going to list them all. Kipped it from my grandfather. I thought he was going to list them all. inherited. Rest in peace to the grandfather. I knew my mom's entire top row.
1:56:48Pat McAfee:She fucking loved Bette Midler, Gary Busey. God, I can't wait to relive that. That was incredible. His album's available now. And I'm going to listen to the whole thing. Five frogs like the five families. What do you say? Fuck, I can't get out of the way. You see it. Gave praise at the Temple of the Moon. And at a Sunday.
1:57:14Pat McAfee:Oh, Action. Quickly into the Mount Rushmore of conversations on our show. He was perfect for Feel Good Friday. Yeah, it was. Action Bronson's name was mentioned to the program. I think it was like Wednesday. It was like, we're packed Wednesday. We cannot. We're so sorry. But we like Action Bronson. Please, we would like him to know that we would definitely like him on the program. And we appreciate you pitching somebody. Like, people pitching people is very abnormal. So, like, we're very, very thankful for that. So, then they're like, yeah, it wasn't him. It was like people, you know, he's got his album released, but he's also a Knicks fan.
1:57:46Pat McAfee:We're trying to get him to do stuff. That's basically what they're saying. Think about trying to rally him. Impossible. Oh, yeah, impossible. I can't believe he was on. So then they were like, Thursday, we could try to rally him in like the noon hour or whatever. I'm like, I think we got him. Please tell him Friday with him would be amazing. Anytime he's good on Friday, we would love to have him on a feel-good Friday. 140 happened to be the perfect time. Yeah. Going right into the end of that. Maybe 205 next time. Try to rally him, you say. His people try to rally him. The amount of times we said, well said.
1:58:18Oh, yeah.
1:58:19Pat McAfee:The amount of times that's been said to him. Well said. And I just love that he completely knows, too. Like, yeah, think about what I just said. We got anything else to talk about? Nope, didn't think so. Let's keep it moving. Man, chef, rapper, actor, liver, absolutely a liver. Beast. He's living. Yeah. What the fuck about right now? Just rolling through the Silk Road. All the stands. He left one off, a couple off, that I immediately thought of. I'm happy he didn't go there. Might be closed off. Let's make some picks on these games. Sports are up right now. Sports are up right now. Come on, sports.
1:58:54Pat McAfee:Can we go to that graphic of the, yep, right here? Hell yeah, sports. We would like to celebrate this. This is certainly not a. Sports are way up. Honestly, it makes us all wonder what people are doing before watching sports. You know? if all these people are becoming or coming back to sports or becoming sports fans or more people are getting access to watching sports. Whatever the case, we appreciate everybody diving into the sports world, and we're fucking very lucky to be a tiny part of this entire thing, AJ, but it feels like sports are up and to the right now. Absolutely. I mean, we're in an awesome time for sports right now, especially since every sport seems to deliver, especially when it comes to playoff time.
1:59:33So, yeah, it is true. What do you do if you don't watch any sports? There are people that don't watch anything when it comes to sports. I think they read books.
1:59:41Pat McAfee:Is that it? I think so. What kind of TV do they watch? There's people who don't have TVs in their house. I assume those – what's that, like trash TV? I say trash. I used to watch it as well. Like reality TV? Oh, yeah. Yeah, like all that TV. I think the genre is actually trash TV. I'm not calling it trash TV. You're talking like lizard-lick towing? No. That would classify as old school part of it. Blizzard Lick, Tony, Rock of Love, Flava Flav. We're talking Summer House. We're talking all that stuff. Jersey Shore. All that type of stuff is our era. All my friends that don't watch sports, that is what they watch.
2:00:16Pat McAfee:But you have a lot of friends that don't. That's interesting because I've been trying to figure out who in my life would I be able to ask information from about Don't. But I do think it's all those shows. Yeah, addicted to those shows. Like Netflix has a bunch of them. Peacock has a bunch of them. It's almost like the new soaps. Like soap operas used to kind of carry the afternoon for everybody. Now it's like all these different series and games and realities and shows from all these platforms. Because there's some of these platforms that I think you're probably seeing magnificent spikes whenever one of their series pops off when nothing else pops off.
2:00:46Pat McAfee:I watch my wife go over to like some platform that have not been on at all just to watch some show. And it's like they're just trying to create ways to get people to places. Sports have always reigned king, seemingly still king. But I like that there's some other shit kind of drawing attention around there for content. but sports up and to the right is a wild thing whenever you think about the amount of money that's being spent on all this. The licensing, the contracts, the streaming platforms that seemingly have a bottomless pit of money trying to get into the game, and then news comes out, it's like YouTube might not have any NFL games.
2:01:19Pat McAfee:Netflix actually might pick up more NFL games. Amazon Prime, are they going to get another game? It's like we're now in a world where every platform is trying to get in, at least on our league, and as these numbers continue to grow up, every one of these sport things are going to be the most profitable thing on television until television's no more. I mean, that's just kind of how it is. And I'm fucking lucky I grew up only in the sports world, to be honest with you. Yeah, especially when we're talking about some of the biggest stars in all these sports. Like we mentioned the MLB, the MLB with the World Baseball Classics, one thing, like having a player as fascinating as Shohei Otani in the league and, you know, Paul Skeens, who's setting records that have gone back hundreds of years.
2:02:01Even just that as an attraction. I don't like the Dodgers. But if Shohei Otani's on, you're going to go watch him. It feels like there hasn't been a draw like that in the MLB in my lifetime, at least like there is right now. Since the home run race. That's in a bunch of sports. Yeah, since the home run race.
2:02:16Pat McAfee:Shout out to sports. Let's have a great weekend of sports. Let's make some picks for tonight. The NHL has two games. Canadians at Sabres, 7 p.m. Eastern on TNT. Golden Knights at the Ducks. 9.30 on TNT. AJ, who do you like? How do you like it in the first one in Buffalo? I have a hard time picking against this Buffalo team, obviously. Everything they're doing on the ice, off the ice, I am a fan of. So give me Buffalo here. Fresh off of Matthew Kachuk saying that the Buffalo Blade gang could beat up all the other groups from all the other different places. Go ahead and consider me all in on the Buffalo Sabres.
2:02:48Pat McAfee:I like the Sabres. I like them to win it again. Congrats to them going up 2-0 in our eyes, even though these Canadians are not going to go down lightly. Golden Knights, Ducks, 9.30 p.m. Eastern. We know Ty will be up. Yeah, definitely. We know Ty will be up with that kind of thing. Ducks or Knights, who do you like? How do you like it, AJ? I mean, I like the Golden Knights. I've been riding with them since the beginning. I will continue. Jack Eichel and the boys will get it done. I love the Knights as well. Give me the Ducks. They got a Lorax as their coach. I love everything about the Ducks, especially them being at home up there.
2:03:19Pat McAfee:I think it's going to go well. Let's go to the NBA tonight on Prime. Knicks at Sixers. Knicks have been beating the hell out of everybody. The Hawks, then into the Sixers. Joel Embiid gets hurt. That kind of changes the entire storyline. Spurs at Wolves. One-one tie. Ant-Man went into San Antonio, stole one. Wemby and the boys answered. Vassell did a trick shot in the middle of a game. AJ, who do you like in Knicks versus Sixers? You know what? I'm going to go with the Knicks here. Embiid is out, correct? I believe so. Questionable at the moment. Crush them. Okay, I'm taking the Knicks. I know Kendrick thought the Sixers were taking this one, right?
2:03:58I'm going to ride with the Knicks here.
2:04:00Pat McAfee:Okay, so you wanted to point out publicly that you're opposing Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, he did. Honestly, it came out that way. It did not mean it to come out that way. I love Perk, by the way. By the way. He's amazing. He's outrageous. Action Bronson needs maybe a once a week. Mike Foss, who was the connection between Action Bronson's group and us, Really? said this is both the best and worst potential booking I've been a part of. And I said, no, best by far. We need more Action Brunson. I don't think everybody can pull off Action Brunson, but I like that Action Brunson's Action Brunsoning. So I think it's spectacular.
2:04:34Pat McAfee:Do we have Shams on? Shams, Sharania. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Shams. Oh, no, we can't hear you. What you say?
2:04:52Pat McAfee:We can see your face. What you say? It was for lunch. I took my AirPods off. Hey, Shams, what you say? I took my AirPods off. My AirPods weren't working. gonna play hey joel m bead what's he doing tonight is he playing are we uh i think we read questionable is what we heard but uh should we assume that questionable means out or should we assume questionable means in for joel m bead i think right now it is a situation where he's gonna probably end up going to the arena warming up and then seeing how he feels um i can't tell you there's hope inside that sixers building right now that he's gonna be able to play but they're not going to know with a guy like Joel Embiid until he gets to the arena, sees how he feels, not one-on-one, two-on-two.
2:05:43But with Joel Embiid, it's always about how he feels.
2:05:45Pat McAfee:Okay, we appreciate it. How about Spurs, Timberwolves, anything we need to know about there? Ant Edwards in, Io DeSumo in right now. I mean, I think this is one of the most physical and competitive back-and-forth series I think we're going to get. Obviously, Game 2 was a blowout, but I think as it shifts back to Minnesota, I think we're going to be in for, I think, two very competitive games. Okay, Knicks, OGN and OB. Kendrick Perkins said let's rest him games three and games four. I think you reported he's day-to-day with a hamstring. What is the actual diagnosis as we sit today? Yeah, I think a lot of people look at a hamstring strain and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's not like a day-to-day situation.
2:06:25But I was told by multiple people that I trust around the situation that this is a tweak of the hamstring. It's considered to be on the minor side of hamstring strains. This is not a severe hamstring strain. So he's going through treatment today. We'll see if he can play today. We'll see if he can play in game four if he can't play tonight. I think the hope is that this is going to be a game-to-game, day-to-day thing, not a week-long thing, which is good news for the Knicks and OGN and OB. But the good news for them, it's not considered to be a serious strain, and he's trying to play tonight.
2:06:58Pat McAfee:Okay. All right. Well, we appreciate the hell out of you, Shams. you're even better when we can hear you. Ladies and gentlemen with a drive by senior NBA insider at ESPN, Shams Shaman. Yeah, Shams. Alright, so you like the Knicks tonight? Yes, I do. And I think I agree with Perk that OG should sit out the next couple games, for sure. Hamstrings tough. Obviously, it looked bad. Anytime you pull up like that, it's something. Like your body's not just doing that for no reason. You can't tough it out like it's an ankle sprain. Like you rolled your ankle or something. And he tried to, like right here after he kind of tweaks it, he tries to dunk it.
2:07:31Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah.
2:07:32Pat McAfee:Yeah. We obviously are bummed out for him. But if the Sixers win tonight. Then it gets him. Is he back? You know, because, wait a second. Do I want to take the Sixers tonight? No. Action Brunson. Give me the Knicks. I like the Knicks. Bridges, scary for a little Bridges night. Bridges, Ben Stiller. I mean, Schrags, this is coming to New York by a show. Don't love that. You guys kind of took over our shit. We're out here in Indiana trying to stay away from these coastal elitists, and all of a sudden we got Action Bronson acting like he's not a coastal elitist. He's not supposed to be that likable.
2:08:12Pat McAfee:This guy's a New York Knicks fan. This guy is supposed to be hateable. And then Ben Stiller comes on and goes, I didn't think it was going to be a big deal, honestly. I don't know what's a big deal. I'm not even invited to the fucking Met Gala. I'm trying to go with a friend. It's like, Johnny, are we kind of carrying the New York Knicks water over here because we're kind of becoming a fan of them? Bruce, what the hell is going on with this program over here? And is this partially because of you, you think? I will say yesterday when Triggs was on in a Knicks ball cap and we were FaceTiming Ben Stiller, I did think, wow, we are kind of doing it, supporting the New York Knicks a little bit.
2:08:45Action Bronson's the man. And Mitchell Robinson is back as well tonight. He missed game two with an illness. He's back. So if Joel Embiid does not go, then we got two centers and they got one in Andre Drummond, and that could become a potential issue that covers up OG being out.
2:09:01Pat McAfee:Okay, sounds good. I appreciate the optimism coming from the Knicks fans. Action Bronson knows there's a game tonight. I can't wait to see what his picks are. I'm going with the Knicks as well, plus a point and a half. Spurs at Timberwolves. How do you see this going, AJ? Who do you like? How do you like it? So I would not mind seeing Minnesota win this game, but with that being said, I think the Spurs will win and cover minus four and a half. Yeah, I think Wemby loves going into that Minnesota. Timberwolves have not lost in Minnesota in like 14 straight or something like that. I forget the number.
2:09:30Pat McAfee:Tough barn. Tough barn.
2:09:36Ant. They're going to need about 30 out of Gobert. You're going to need 30 from Ant. Who do you like? He'll get it. I like four and a half. Tom P, who do you like? Which one? I like the Timberwolves here. It's kind of Spurs always win after a loss. It's just what happens, win and cover. I like T-Wolves at home.
2:09:53Pat McAfee:that place is going to be rocking tonight all right i'll go with you guys i'm on spurs i just want to get that out there okay foxy who do you like yeah timberwolves home court advantage bruce who do you like i'm on spurs although i do love julius randall i'm going with timberwolves plus four and a half okay great work in the back there this week boys Good week, boys. Graphic design boys. Way to go, GDBs. Talk, way to go out there. Tell them good stories. Bill, way to go with you too. Z, way to go, Z. To our guests that stopped by, thank you so much. To everybody that sent me a text message telling me happy birthday, thank you so much.
2:10:41Pat McAfee:I would like this message right here to be my response to your text message. All week I've tried to slot some time like, Okay, that's when I'll go through the text messages and respond and say thank you so much for the messaging. And then all of a sudden something comes up pretty big. You don't need to. We're in the middle of a gigantic up-to-something season right now. This might be the biggest up-to-something season of all time, actually. Probably. Like, actually. It's a lot. A lot has happened very quickly here. I mean, we have found ourselves in quite an up-to-something season. I mean, we are prime up-to-something season.
2:11:14Pat McAfee:We have prepared for this up-to-something season that's kind of dropped out of nowhere here. It's a lot of phone calls. A lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of, a lot of. Shout out to the graphics, making graphics for these phone calls. Shout out to graphic makers on our phones making. Sure. Graphic designs. You've seen some of the work come in through the group text, AJ? I have. Very, very professional. Unbelievable. Unbelievably professional. We love that we're alive right now. We're very thankful that we get to do this for a living. And this is a massive up to something season. And we hope we get a little bit of grace after this Up to Something season announced by people that maybe followed along for a while, please.
2:11:52Pat McAfee:There's no chance. But on that note, we're so thankful for all of you.
2:12:00Pat McAfee:It's been a hell of a week for us. We hope that you feel the same way. You know, spring, summer, sometimes you can say it's a little bit boring, But I think every morning we wake up very, very excited to celebrate sports alongside all of you. Sports are up and to the right. And we're a tiny little piece of it. Big piece of it is because all of you. Take your time and energy to invest in sport. The greatest thing that's ever been existed. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Have the greatest weekend of your life. We'll see you on Overreaction Monday. So many things are about to happen over the weekend.
2:12:41Pat McAfee:By Monday, we have a whole new world potentially with aliens playing on the D-line for the Indianapolis Colts. Great work, you too. You too, bro. Great work, AJ. Great work. We go. Happy birthday week. Thank you to my daughter, Mackenzie. Thank you for that. And to Ty and their family. Be your friend. Tell your friends something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Thank you. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.
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On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk and the boys recap the week of NBA & NHL
Playoffs, NFL news, and more. At the top of the show, we are joined by NBA
Champion & ESPN NBA Analyst Kendrick Perkins to discuss what’s going wrong for James Harden and the rest of the Cavaliers as they go down 2-0 to the Pistons, the overwhelming conversation around the Thunder flopping against the Lakers, whether or not the 76ers are better off with Embiid out of the line up, and more. After Big Perk, ESPN’s Senior NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins the program to announce that the NFL & NFL Referees Association have reached a new CBA agreement that runs through 2032, confirm that the NFL schedule release date is next Thursday, talk about Jauan Jennings signing with the Vikings, the Packers releasing K Brandon McManus, the opportunity in front of Kyler Murray in Minnesota, and more. To start the second hour, we roll through 5 Things That Aren’t Ass & fire up the Oh No Train with ESPN NFL Analyst Dan Orlovsky. After Dan, we are joined by critically acclaimed chef, actor, and rapper Action Bronson
who takes us through his thoughts on the New York Knicks, his VHS tape collection, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We will be back tomorrow LIVE from the ThunderDome. Cheers.
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