PMS 2.0 1552 - Iman Shumpert, Erik Johnson, Dan Orlovsky, Ronda Rousey

21:15Yeah, that's right. Because they just sat there and watched it. Yeah, y 'all sat there and watched the whole thing unfold. I love it. That's playoff basketball. It's supposed to go up a level. They're supposed to hate each other for 48 minutes. And y 'all allowed us as fans to enjoy that. So shout out to the referees from last night.

21:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, it does feel a little old school, doesn't it? It feels a little old school. You go to the weight room. Yeah, go to the weight room. Yeah, there's no jersey swapping. Yeah, there's no jersey swapping around here. We're throwing bows right now. The NBA's got a little NHL in it. And then you talk about the refs. The NBA refs letting kind of NHL ref like, yeah, he's going to have to get him back. Let's know tonight, Nas is going to do something. We know that's going to happen, right? Yeah, something. And then we'll tell him immediately afterwards, okay. That's it. All right, here we go. Yeah, let's continue the call.

22:01Pat McAfee:I like that. Hey, the NBA kind of swinging a hot bat. Kind of old school. Yeah, it is. Hey, who's the lamb beer? Yeah, we're looking for the new lamb beer coming through. I can already see him getting excited. Let's go to the east, shall we, with a man who likes the new school game with limited contact. Go ahead, D-Butt. Yeah, game five tonight in Detroit. This series, I hear you NBA guys always say, the series doesn't start until you steal one on the road. Both teams have been holding it down home court. game five pitches are favored by four and a half points how do you see this game and the rest of this series going well it depends um it's going to be interesting to see how the calves respond i think excuse me uh the calves have figured out that donovan mitchell throughout a game can keep you trained on the tracks i've said it before because of donovan's ability to score the ball in so many different ways.

22:57You can trust him throughout the game, but it becomes extremely difficult to set your team up for success, not knowing which way he wants to go or what he wants to do at the end of games. It's much easier as a player on a team to say, hey, our guy has the ball and he's either going to get to the left elbow or the right elbow for this shot. But I now know all the cuts and all the screens I could set on the court without getting into his way, without messing up spacing, without bringing my man to him for a double. I think that has to be James Harden's job. They figured that out the last couple of games.

23:38James Harden also figured out, if I have more FGMs than TOs, then we're going to win the game. It's a numbers game. You know what I'm saying? As long as he gets up field goal attempts and puts them up there high enough with enough arc, they'll land somewhere around the rim and Jared Allen can go out there and be a responsible adult. Evan Mobley can go out here and be the footer that he was always meant to be. It's like you know how to do it. It's just at the end of the game, especially, you have to be in that same position as a driver if you're James Harden to say, hey, I can get to any spot on the floor.

24:14I can make anything happen, and I'm going to keep my turnovers down. Donovan Mitchell, still allowed to be aggressive. You can go out there and have three or four turnovers. doesn't bother me much. When James Harden takes care of the ball and makes sure that they're successful, especially at the end of games, this Cavs team is dangerous, but they only can go as far as James Harden can figure it out at the end of game.

24:33Pat McAfee:James went crazy a couple nights ago. Yes, he did. It is still in there. And then afterwards, the interview of him saying, what chatter? Exactly. Just trolling everything. Yeah. Awesome. I love it. James Harden still got his fastball. And I hope he shows it because a Cavaliers run against the Knicks would be fantastic. It's going to put me in a bad spot. Don't even tell me that. We'll have your ass on TV. Hey, we're going to put you on for two hours straight and make you piss off everybody. Let's talk about these. The number one overall seed is the Stones. Obviously, figuring it out. Go ahead, Tone.

25:07Yeah, Sean, obviously the Knicks are hot. They were shooting incredible. And then you have, like we just talked about, Cavs and Pistons left. Now, when you look at the odds, the favorites are still to win the title are the Spurs and OKC before you get to anyone in the East. Do you think that's right? Do you think whoever comes out of the West should be the favorite? And does anyone in the East have a chance matchup-wise against either the Spurs or OKC? I mean, it's a clear reason why the favorite would be in the West. The one wrinkle is prior to us all making these playoff predictions and everything that was going on right after All-Star break, when we was all putting in our picks of what we thought this would be.

25:52The Knicks decided that they were going to play through Carl Anthony Towns. And honestly, it intrigues me because it calls for teams to have to adjust. It's one thing to have to adjust to a guard, but you have a team full of guards that can defend. but they've never had to deal with quite anything that goes through besides Jokic. They would have to, they would have had to deal with Jokic, but I think the way the Knicks are playing, it kind of makes cat the Jokic of the East, so to speak. I'm not saying there to say, I'm just saying playing through him, him being able to make the late pass. I think it becomes a different matchup than we once thought.

26:38If OKC has to see the Knicks, I think that would be the best viewership. I'll tell you that. It would be the best chance that they could have.

26:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, we know if the Knicks are in, the viewership is going to be up, Iman. We saw people everywhere. We were walking around New York. There was people everywhere. I mean, there ain't nowhere with nobody. No. Everywhere. Yeah. Everybody. It's a big apple. I just get nervous. I get nervous when I see Detroit. Even though Detroit and Cleveland can match up, when you start saying matching up with the West, they have those lapses in time that they can't score. Detroit has those lapses in time that they don't know kind of what to do. And they only can live through Cade. And if Cade starts turning the ball over against the OKC, against the San Antonio, it just lights out really quick.

27:31Like, the way you can come back in the East is not that simple in the West. So when I look at it, I look at the matchup and say, I hope that the Knicks have to, if it's okay, see, I hope the Knicks have to do that matchup because that's what I would want to see. And then if vice versa with the Spurs coming out, I would hope that you get to see it against Detroit because I think that matchup would be good.

27:56Pat McAfee:I like what you just did there. You put a lot of teams into the finals. You did good. Yeah, that was a good job. That was good to be. As a basketball fan. Yeah, as a basketball fan. Hey, listen, and to other basketball fans, I do see your team in the finals. That was an incredible work right there. You know, it didn't rule anybody out. No. Would love to see Spurs make it. Hey, I'd love to see Ant-Man. Ant-Man just sent me shoes. Hey, thank you, Ant-Man. Good shoes, man. I got the shoes. Ant-Man sent me like 10 pairs of shoes, man. Make sure y 'all go get the AEs, dog. Yeah. Absolutely. I got them Timberwolves blue ones.

28:27Yeah, what size? What size are you, man? What size? I'm a 14. 14 to walk, 15 to hoop. You know what I'm saying? He sent me both, too, just in case I want to mix it up. You never know. That's my boy.

28:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, you never know. Size 12 and size 12 over here. I can do 12. 12, 12, 12. You said 12. 12. I think everybody's in the bag. 11's in the bag. I think there's an 8 and a half, too. Gumpy would love some. 11 to walk, 12 to hoop. Okay, that was really Gumpy. Double suck. Yeah, 13 to hoop. Okay, speaking of hooping for a long time, and obviously you know him very well, there's a wild conversation happening right now that I just can't in any way could that be the ending of that particular story. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Sean, we know Jordan's your GOAT, but LeBron got you your ring, and it feels as though the dialogue right now helps.

29:23It feels like the dialogue right now just is completely ridiculous. this whole entire, you know, is LeBron done? Is this it? And this is ESPN, so obviously we have to bring it up.

29:35Pat McAfee:Not actually, though. Like, we're not. We're not contracting. Because I just walked out of them. Disney. Actually, keep reading the teleprompter. No, we don't have a teleprompter. Please. There's no teleprompter. Okay. Geez, Louise. It's right there. It just wouldn't make sense for us to talk basketball. See, it's not a prom. It's a TV. It's just programmed, so we know for a lot. It's just a TV. I get all my lines way before the show starts. No, that is not how this goes. But if we're talking about LeBron, is it ridiculous to think like, hey, one, this guy is not going to step away without a retirement tour.

30:10Two, he deserves one for everything he's done for basketball, for the game. And is it more so a conversation of do you think LeBron is going to go back to the Lakers? Do you think he might kind of go year 24 somewhere else, maybe back to Cleveland? What is kind of your whole entire read on the LeBron situation? Because it does feel as though his time in the Lakers is done, especially with them having to pay a lot of guys. Yeah, I think that with the cap, well, I'll say this first. As far as the retirement tour goes, I don't think LeBron's focus is at all on a retirement tour. I don't think he needs one.

30:48I think that you can grow to appreciate LeBron's career in a number of ways. He knows that. He knows he's one of the most visible people to walk the earth. It's not something that he's going to come back so that he can be celebrated. I really don't like that narrative getting pushed. I think that if he comes back, it's going to be because he smells like he, I mean, he feels like he can smell another championship in the future. LeBron is a winner. He's a person that always wanted to be around winning. He preaches a winning culture all the time. You don't have to like the way he does it all the time, but that's what his goal is, and that's what's in mind at all times.

31:30So I can't imagine him going back to the Lakers because, one, I think the cap space is off, and I don't think he needs to take a pay cut after proving to the rest of the world age is nothing but a number, and he still can be one of the most efficient players in our game. For him to be able to go out there and, you know, average above 20, still be able to rebound, jump on the floor for a loose ball, yeah, I don't think he should take a pay cut. And with that being said, I think that, you know, if you can, you know, figure it out with the payment plan in Cleveland, you know, why not? Okay.

32:12Pat McAfee:All right. If you can figure it out even more, go to Golden State and play with Steph Curry because I ain't going to lie. I can't act like watching them play in USA wasn't just like, wow, that is great basketball. Wow. They can get KD up there too probably if they want it. You can get the Olympic team. You can get the Olympic team if you want it. I remember we were watching Olympic games, you know, and we were up early and it would turn into Kevin Durant hitting 27 straight points. Yep. You know, whenever he wanted to just go ahead and take a game of it. Steph closed it up. And then Steph going crazy.

32:45Pat McAfee:LeBron doing his thing. Draymond's in there setting picks, Shane Gillis said. Jimmy Buckets. Oh, yeah, Jimmy's coming. That's too much. That's too much firepower. Why don't you go play? Put those ants on. Get your ass back in there and maybe get another ring. Hey, man, listen, that's it. You know, I just need a VSCO shot of two. Go top the knees real quick. Get in there, man. You know, they can call me. I never retire. In fact, I don't retire, dog. It's either they called me or they didn't. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Did you do a big three or anything like that? Have you ever played any other?

33:12No, no, no, no. I haven't. I haven't yet.

33:15Pat McAfee:Would you? Do people talk about that? Because it feels like we've seen a lot of XNBA guys go over there. Still who? Yeah, people do. Yeah, I do. I was literally supposed to do some health stuff and get a surgery and didn't want to get it and then just messed up my timeline to play in it. At some point, I'll get it done and go out there and play. Okay, so you're going to be playing in the big three at some point. That's cool. Any other news that we need to get here, Emon? Are we doing anything? No, man. They just need to watch the Shump Street pod, man. You know, every Monday we're doing the Shump Street pod, baby.

33:45That's all. We're talking basketball. The playoffs is on. I am unimportant.

33:49Pat McAfee:You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, great from the Shump. Emo Shump. Yeah, Shump. I like that. Shump Street's a good name. Yeah, great. It ain't about me. It's about the basketball. Yeah. I love that. Let's get to sports. Sports. Him talking about LeBron, and he's saying the same thing everybody else is saying. Cleveland, because I don't think if he was to play one more year, just put on a random jersey would be weird. Like, that would be a weird thing to do. And now who knows if he's only playing one more year. We saw him this year. He looked unbelievable. And who knows if he's playing at all.

34:19Pat McAfee:I mean, he has earned that right. He's 41 years old. But it's like if he was to put on a Cleveland Cavaliers jersey again and go back with Donovan Mitchell and maybe take them over the hump again, that'd be a great way to kind of wrap up an entire story if you're LeBron James. And this has been a movie, obviously, since the beginning. He's been there, obviously. I think the cookies thing kind of soured the Miami. He's always wanted to play with Steph. I'm sure his wife loves Miami. If he was to go to Golden State, I think it would be multiple years. I think that would be a two-year thing, I think, personally.

34:48Pat McAfee:I don't think he would want to just do a one-year added New Jersey, personally, just from LeBron. This is me as a fan watching. I know nothing about nothing. They just signed Steve Kerr to another two-year deal, right? Okay, so. Steph is, well, I think Steph's on the same timeline. Probably two years, yeah. Yeah, so. Hall. And Steph's never been swept. So if he goes there, then he probably won't get swept. Bron going up to Golden State and just going That was a shot. You didn't need to say that. I was just talking about the positives of going up to Golden State. That was a shot. That was an unnecessary shot, Tony.

35:17Pat McAfee:I didn't even hear what you were saying because my mind just immediately went to LeBron James going up to where all those billion dollar companies are created up there and just becoming a percentage owner of all of them. Rich Paul bouncing his way around the, what is that? area up there and you shake the amount this guy would be a bazillionaire if he was to go up there not Steph Curry isn't Steph Curry is as well I think that's one of the benefits of being up there but LeBron one of the most savvy business people obviously Michael Jordan shoes are the most savvy business move well time shout to David Falk I just watched something with him in there in the entirety but like Rich Paul would figure out a way okay to figure out Golden State's area not just on the court but also off it and if he was to be the guy that could just kick that thing out to Steph.

36:00Pat McAfee:I mean, LeBron loves passing the ball. That is why people judge him against Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan would take that shot at the end. It's like, well, LeBron actually, he like views himself kind of as he got a little magic Johnson. He thinks he's a little bit. Yeah, we know he's 6 '9 and can just kind of run over anybody anytime he wants. But he likes the show. Him kicking to Steph and then Steph hitting them all turning and running at the same time. Like, that would be a show. Jimmy should be healthy by then. Porzingis is still on the roster, I believe. I'm pulling for this all of a sudden.

36:29Pat McAfee:Pacers, too. Okay, let's not talk. I don't want to see him on another team, man. I don't want to see another jersey. I kind of do. I think it's kind of sweet. I can't see a one-year jersey. That's a weird thing. That feels like a – that just doesn't feel like a good ending. Absolutely. Unless they win a title, I guess. Yeah, and I do think it would be a multi-year thing. But, like, staying in the West, and granted, if he goes to the Warriors, they become, you know, probably one of the top favorites. But the West is just so stacked. Like, and I don't want this to happen to myself. Yeah, it's probably so at least third best.

36:58But if you were to go to the Knicks, how cool that would be. We're talking about by far the most crazed fan base in the NBA. I think we see that every single time they play. If you were to go play at the Mecca, I think that would be really cool. Cleveland would be cool, too. I think Miami would be cool, too, going back to one of his old teams. Pacers, I don't know. Probably his number one spot. But one of those spots. I could see Boston as well. And I'm being dead serious just because of what Shump just said, like winning culture, all that stuff. like Joe Mazzulla and everything. He's giving praise both to the sun and moon, I'm sure, but to Joe Mazzulla as well, just about how, you know.

37:34He's giving praise at the Temple of the Sun. Uh-huh.

37:37Pat McAfee:Okay, that's what you're talking about? Yeah. I'm sorry. The Temple of the Moon. I've been there. Don't follow. Take it down, Mexico. Shots in Tibet. Is this Joe? You follow. Is this Mazzulla? He's boogie boarding. Crocodile. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, see. 18 degrees. It's hard for me to get on the same page. I FaceTime. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I don't want to sound braggadocious, but I've had, this is what I'm saying, New York, a year, New York year yesterday. I FaceTimed with Action Brunson yesterday. Okay. Had a couple drinks, had his phone number, cold FaceTimed Action Brunson. Let's see.

38:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, why not? He answered. He was with a jazz band. He said, I'm doing jazz. I said, of course you are. Yes. I started laughing. I said, are you guys playing? He goes, yeah, let me play you something. Puts the phone down. Okay, a full jazz band starts playing. He has a microphone. In a studio or his apartment? I assume there was a studio. There was a lot of music. There was a lot of, I mean, we're talking. Maybe in a bodega. To your trumpet. Yeah, so it was a little bigger room. I assume it would be a studio. I don't know if he was recording what he said to be. He should have. I mean, it was immediately one into a minute 30 freestyle about everything from going to Knicks games on mushrooms to being unstoppable.

38:54Pat McAfee:I mean, it was with a jazz band in the back. And then somehow, I don't know if they had rehearsed this. There's no way they could have. There's no way that he had thought of those words he was saying before he was saying them in that exact moment. They were dropping the beat whenever he was in there. This is all in a FaceTime. I'm in the back of a car going from one event to the next. People in the car. Bruce sitting up there. Bruce immediately turns out. What's up, Bronsolini? It was so sick. Turns around, turns his camera on. Obviously, other people in the car. Is this fucking real? And I have to tell him, like, hey, you're being filmed right now.

39:21Pat McAfee:Who cares? Let it run. You know, it just keeps going. It was outrageous. He just released a video, I think, on his Instagram with that jazz band. So I think there's a chance he's kind of piecing it together. It was a wild run. It was a wild run. But to your point about the New York Knicks fans, they are. Yes. They are wild. It's the only thing missing right now from the playoffs is because they swept the Sixers. We haven't had, like, the Knicks going nuts, which will bode well for the Eastern Conference Finals. But still, like, they are a genuine attraction, I'm sure, for everywhere. So many people.

39:55All over the place.

39:56Pat McAfee:That is crazy. You know, you get reminded. I haven't been in New York for a while. It's so big. So big. It is. I know the New Yorkers just probably, yeah, yeah, of course it is. And people that live in the coast, whatever. You forget. You forget whenever you don't go there that your city is a part of a part of a part of that city. And it's just humans everywhere. It was perspective. And then you realize, like, oh, like 80 % of these people are Knicks fans. Oh, yeah. Like, this is their – the Knicks are their team just naturally. They're going to be Knicks fans. Nets, I know they were in Jersey.

40:32Pat McAfee:We ran into – old Alex grew up in Jersey. No, Aaron, maybe. I forget the kid's name. Somebody came up to me from Jersey, loves the Nets. And I'm like, why didn't you just – What's the point? I said, why didn't you just – That's cool. You could just go over, right? Loves the Jets, too. They did. The Nets have won more recently, right? Yeah, but it feels like if you're – Like champions. champion if you're in the new york area everybody is a nick fan like it just feels like that is kind of the thing like it feels like you kind of are are in it and with how many people there that's why whenever the pacers knock out the knicks last year they're like oh the tv network's gonna hate this you know and it's like yeah i think losing that city's interest is certainly something but the numbers in basketball were just fine because how it's good if new york is to continue to ride It's like, I think the NBA numbers are only going to be outrageous, and Adam Silver's going to do that.

41:22Pat McAfee:And they say, like, the networks only care about that. It's like, no, what the Knicks are doing right now, not good, actually. They want best of sevens. They would like – Oh, yeah. The biggest thing for networks is we – best of sevens to not be sweeps. Like, we are paying for three extra games in return, hoping to get this, you're losing that. So the conversation of, like, are they rooting for New York? It's like, well, if the people are from New York and on TV, they certainly are. And obviously that's a massive amount of people that will certainly continue to follow because they're all Knicks fans over there.

41:50Pat McAfee:But also, it's like the game has a chance to – NBA's in a good spot, I think. Great spot, and this is without the Pacers. I've seen a lot of that, too. The thing that's missing this year from the playoffs is what the Pacers and Tyrese did last year. I mean, they won seven games with the Knicks. I do think the other part of the LeBron thing that we're not thinking of is the two expansion teams. You do genuinely wonder if there is some sort of draw to a Vegas for LeBron, whether that is – He said he was out on that, right? Said he was out on the ownership part, but if it was the first time ever with the team and they're building a whole new team and they get some sort of, you know, bonus, and granted, I don't know if that's immediate or next year, but, yeah, it has been a hugely successful playoffs, at least I think, for the NBA.

42:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, I've enjoyed it. The NHL has delivered as well. We're very thankful for all sports that are happening right now, including how the bull riding go. Those bulls are bucking. Oh, I think it's still going on. Them bulls be bucking. The shit out of those bull riders. I mean, these are the best bulls on earth right now. A couple, I think there's a couple rodeos I've seen down in Mexico that had some good bulls. Yeah. But I think the PBR had their eyes on them, probably recruited them. Still going on. 7th to the 17th. Okay, so we're in the middle of the PBR World Championship right now. Yeah. Okay, let's pay attention to that.

43:02Pat McAfee:PGA Championships this weekend. Huge. Let's go ahead and enjoy the hell out of all of that right now. Rory's got a blister on his toe. Yeah. Uh-oh. Ripped his toenail off. Rory's got a blister on his toe. I don't know if the blister was under his toenail. Pinky toe, I believe, was the report. The pinky toe is always the problem with these shoes. I mean, it will always get you. Hopefully this is not a problem. If your base is not good, though, especially with how Rory swings, it could certainly affect them. So we'll keep our eyes on the blistery toes of Rory McIlroy throughout the rest of the week as we head into another massive weekend of golf at the PGA Championship.

43:34Pat McAfee:And the NFL is always cooking. Yes, it is. Schedule releases tomorrow night. A lot of games have been leaked, including all of the internationals. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's always on the television talking about ball. Or he's always on a stage talking about life. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Dan, coming from a barn. Where are you, pal? I am in Richmond, Virginia. This is an old train station that I, from what I've been told, is the old train station, but also the present day train station. So I think it is the old train station. Yeah, that is used for big events in Richmond now, but also the train literally still does come 20 feet behind me.

44:22Okay, I like that. Did you ride in on the train? No, I flew this morning from New York. 52 minutes.

44:29Pat McAfee:That's a good flight. That's a good flight. So maybe hop on one of those trains and just one-way ticket, especially if you're going to keep putting out these emo tweets. These tweets, guess the only option is just keep working. and then he hops on that train. You can see it, can't he? He shows up, gets one ticket. That's the only option is just keep working. Raps that thing. And then I think just go. Fudge it, man. What's wrong with that tweet? Nothing, dude. Don't worry about it. Why are you so cryptic? All of us are just worried about you all of a sudden. As soon as it happens. There's nothing cryptic about it.

45:05I think, honestly, I was probably on the car ride or waiting for my plane and watching, I mean, being honest, probably watching some Instagram reels and, like, motivational stuff popped up, and I just, like... Plagiarous. Fuck it, dog.

45:20Pat McAfee:I get it. Okay, and then let's go to your most recent tweet, shall we? Just two names with the word and in the middle of it and just say, hey, world, go ahead and guess where I'm going. Jared Goff and Jordan Love. Okay, so, Dana, let's start here. Jared Goff and Jordan Love. What? Well, I saw that Bart Scott, I believe on Get Up this morning, said that he could see that Kyler's the best quarterback in the division at the end of the year. And I'm just like, Jared Goff and Jordan Love, are they not playing in the NFC North anymore? And Caleb. But I think those guys are more accomplished than Caleb.

46:00You know, Caleb obviously has a chance to take a big step in year three. Caleb's already more accomplished than Kyler.

46:04Pat McAfee:Gotcha. And did they just read this? So do you have a deal with him? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Tone, Tone, Tone, that's not real. Has Kyler been to the playoffs? That's not true. Has Kyler been to the playoffs? Okay, Tone, so just to reiterate, because I was asking you about this whole stuff. You said Kyler Murray. I said Kyler Murray was successful than Kyler Murray? Yep, I did. Fascinating. No, no, no, no, dude. Kyler Murray's played like a top five quarterback multiple times in his career. Maybe not over the course of the full season, but he's had two-month stretches. is Kyler has been a top 10 quarterback for the majority, maybe top 12 quarterback for the majority of his career.

46:42So you'd rather have him over Caleb moving forward? What? Good question. That looks more accomplished, though. Hold on. More accomplished. No. It would be Kyler. He's played longer. He's got more opportunities. But to Tom's point, that's a great question. Would you rather have Caleb or Kyle? Kyler got to win a QB competition coming up. I would take Kayla right now going forward over Kyler.

47:04Pat McAfee:With Ben Johnson. Kyler with Kevin O 'Connell. We have not seen. Two great play callers. Holy hell. Good TV, Dan. You're doing a great job. D, but if you were ranking the NFC North quarterbacks one through four right now. Who are you putting at one? You're putting Jared Goff at one. I'll put Goff at one. I would put Goff at one, Love at two, and that would be a clear one-two for me. and then there would be a gap in my, like, honestly, belief, and then I would go Kyler at three, Caleb at four. No, you know what? I go Caleb at three, Kyler at four. We just made all the answers. We all came to the same kind of conclusion there.

47:42Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think Caleb in love for me would be sitting right next to each other. Two A to B. They'd be sitting right next to each other for me. And then Kyler. Do you put Caleb in love on the same plane, the same tier? Yep. I think so. What are we ranking for what they've done or what they're doing? Going to do. I think it's a little bit of everything. What they've done is not fair because one has probably played, I think, three seasons longer. So that's not like a real – We got to do the tears. It's not a real apple. We got to do the tears. We need the tears. We got to do the tears so we just know.

48:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, I agree. We don't want to just fall into every internet trend, okay? We have stayed away from that pretty good at this particular program. Nobody talks about it, but you've never seen us dance. You haven't seen it. We are on the internet, but we very much understand what we should be doing, what we should not be doing. We are not good at this. This is what other people are good at. The tiering thing that has been happening on the internet forever, and the quarterback tiers, and the titles of what the tiers are, have been great internet for me to follow along. We have never participated. We are going to do it.

48:43Pat McAfee:Yes. We have to do it. It's a long summer. I'm all in on Kyle. Are you going to make your own tiers? Yeah, all of them. We're doing the whole thing. All of them. We're going to do the entire thing. Who's in the top tier? Who do you got in the top tier in the entire NFL, Dan Orlovsky? There's two of them. No, there's more than two of them. I think that there's – How many tiers do you got, bro? You just handing out all these tiers. Three. No, you need at least five to six tiers, buddy. At least. At least. I don't have to. You're not doing it right. Yeah, you do. You have to, dude. Yeah, you do. Jalen Hurts, Super Bowl winner, but now where are you going to put him in the entire thing?

49:17Pat McAfee:You win with Jalen Hurts. So your tiers are win with, can't win with. Win because. That's easy. Okay, your tears are stupid. I don't like you doing that. Win in spite of. Okay. What are your tears going to be? We got six of them. Stop crying. Keep working. Yeah. That's one of them. Sucks. That's going to be down here at the bottom. Young and really good. We don't know yet. Going to get somebody fired. Yeah. A lot of potential. Can't win Super Bowl. And then elite. Yeah. Yeah. And what if we put all 32 into one and we just decide to leave the others empty? Yeah. We can do that. It's our tears. But Jalen Hurts and who was the other?

49:55Pat McAfee:Darnold. Sam Darnold. Jalen Hurts and Sam Darnold, both Super Bowl winners. Okay? Played great football. But if you were tiering, like you obviously got Patrick Mahomes and Stafford. Josh Allen. Lamar. Lamar Jackson. Joe Burrow, I guess, is right there underneath. Joe Burrow. Got Mahomes and Stafford on the top shelf. I think that's what we had. And then we had Lamar and Josh. Yep. And then we said it's Herbert in the same as Hurts and Darnold, even though they've won a Super Bowl and Herbert hasn't even come close. Yeah, so then we have a lot of guys that haven't really had success all in one tier.

50:28They're like, maybe. I'm into this. I'm into this.

50:32Pat McAfee:And then you got Sam Darnold and Jalen Hurts above that group because they won a Super Bowl. But they're definitely not yet at this point. And what do you do with Bo and Jaden Daniels? Drake May. Drake May and all the – Yeah, like Drake May, does he follow in the Joe Burrow? Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. That might be stock up into the right, but it's down here. Where's Dak? Jared Goof. Which one is Dak in? Is Dak in the same as Hertz and Darnold? Dak. Or is he in the Herbert? Yeah, see, this one we're tearing right now. We should do a whole show on this. We should do a whole show on this.

51:05Where's Joe Flacco go?

51:07Pat McAfee:Hey, where's the top move? That's not a question. Old. Yeah, we do have an old tier. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers is the old one. Flacco is the old one. But, you know, obviously Aaron would be pissed as soon as he saw that we didn't put him into one of the top tiers. The rightful. So we will have the old tier positioned outside of the tier. It'll be higher up in the tiers. But it'll be because. Baker. Yeah. Oh, shit. Exactly. Where are you putting him? I don't want Baker. Went with. We're not doing yours. Remember, we're doing these tiers. Remember, you said in the middle of our tiers. Oh, this is fun.

51:43Is Baker below? I'm intrigued. Or same or similar to Sam Darnold? Baker, I would put in the same tier, but you have to put him below because Sam won it. But I would put him as the same, very similar type of player.

51:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, so there's one right there that's like Herbert. Jordan Love. Jordan Love. Dan, CJ Brown. It's a packed tier. Packed tier, because I think we don't know. I think it's like good. We all think they're very good, but are they going to climb up the ladder? We don't know. Super Bowl champions have to be above them because they've already done it. And even May and Burrow, where it's like, hey, they have gotten there, but May only has done it one year. Burrow, he's been kind of in and out of injury, and he's also missed the playoffs multiple times. It's very tough to tear him. It's tough to tear.

52:29Pat McAfee:Maybe – what are you doing over there in the train station? We never even asked. Packing a lip. Are you potting? Yeah, are you like a zen in right now? You're getting a little – That's bubble gum. That's bubble gum. I have a couple things. One, what I'm doing here is I'm doing a speaking engagement. when I speak. Nice. Hell yeah. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So I have to do that and I'm on a 5.30 flight home tonight. Oh, in and out. My second thing is no dip. I've dipped once in my life. I think I've given you guys that story. My third thing I am interested is, do you think that there's NFL general managers?

53:01Honest question here. Because the quarterback value or the quarterback annual contract is very high. We know that. You know, like there's quarterbacks, a lot of them, I don't know how many making 50 North. or north of 50. And I know the cap keeps growing, but we just watched Seattle with a quarterback that makes 30 million, that allowed more money to go to the roster, not rookie quarterback value, but a mid quarterback value. A lot to go to the roster. Yeah, like I wonder if there's general managers sitting there going, I actually, like, unless I have a Patrick or a Josh and there's only four of them, I'm not going to pay them.

53:43I'd rather pay a guy that I think is in that mid-tier range 30 I'm inter interchangeable parts to me and I'll build up the roster around I think that's a better Super Bowl recipe yeah

53:54Pat McAfee:because then you're using the rookie quarterback thing but just not exactly a rookie quarterback it's been happening that formula Sam Darnold it happened for obviously because he had already had high aspirations big contract and then fell off second chance still getting great money let's go ahead and take that money and go ahead and on with our life. Kirk Cousins got 180 down there in Atlanta. If it would have worked for him, people would obviously have some questions. But if you think about, like, the deal that Baker Mayfield signed, it's not forever. They can still work with it. I think they're going to be trying to negotiate that in a lot.

54:25Pat McAfee:Tom Brady obviously with, what,$20 million or something like that? Yeah. Drew Brees was like$20 million. Aaron's working on a$10 million deal. Now, granted, these guys have all been paid. Yeah. But it also does help the roster immensely if you can spend a little bit more money on the O-line. If we can get eight million bucks, that is very good. Three or four starters. Yeah, very good. This is going to come up with CJ Stroud and Bryce Young. It happened with Trevor and they paid Trevor. Okay? Now, is there a buyer's remorse? I don't know. Maybe at the beginning of last season, but then he played really well towards the end of the season.

54:57But then when CJ and Bryce come up, there's this thing in the NFL where it's like the next quarterback up, it doesn't matter if they're better than Josh Allen and Lamar or not. They have to get paid more to them. for some reason.

55:08Pat McAfee:That's happening. For some reason, that's because they got great game. For the next generation. I'm just saying, when is it going to stop? When is it going to stop? There's a guy staring down a young quarterback coming to Pittsburgh in the next few years in this entire game. Why hasn't there been those 10-year deals, though? I think eight is the most. Okay. Seven or eight. I think seven or eight is the most. Remember, Patrick Mahomes' deal was announced. Exactly. And we were told it was 10 years, $500 million. Yeah. That's what we were told. Then it came out, it was a seven-year, $41 million average every single year.

55:37Pat McAfee:and they're tinkering with it every single year. It's like we don't know what's real, what isn't real, but we do know that if the quarterback doesn't get the top of the market, you can build a team. If the quarterback gets the top of the market, they're going to have to win you a Super Bowl. And you just have to be – your drafts have to just be flawless. You know, it's – there is more wiggle room, obviously. I just think with watching how Seattle did it, how Roseman has done this, right, I think the Eagles' two Super Bowls have been with quarterbacks on rookie contracts, right? Because Wentz was on his rookie deal when Foles won it.

56:13I think Hurst was paid. Jalen was paid after the loss of the Super Bowl, I think,

56:17Pat McAfee:and won the Super Bowl after getting paid. But they might have kicked that money down. And they had all rookies on their D-line. Yeah. They're all rookie contracts. So it's just like I wonder if some general managers are sitting there saying, my quarterback's a really good player. Like, he's a top 15 player, but there's eight top 15 quarterbacks, right? Because the quarterbacks that live between eight and 15 are kind of the same guy. They are. I believe that 100%. I think there's 15, top 15. But you're saying they're kind of swappable. Anyway, we got to get to a break. You got to get to a speech.

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58:15Pat McAfee:Sports are the greatest and obviously we're so thankful that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and one half of the hammer. Down! Cowboys AP done. I see the Pittsburgh Pirates little short sleeve hoodie thing here. Yeah, it looks short sleeve but it's actually just a full sleeve hoodie. It's just kind of cool design. Oh, really? Maybe the Pirates are swinging a hot bat right now. They are swinging a hot bat. Oh, they are. And is their pitcher the greatest of all time? The guy that won a national championship at LSU, a guy who is a freak show on the mound, a man who has changed baseball in Pittsburgh immediately upon arriving as a rookie.

58:55Pat McAfee:Paul Skeens is only getting better somehow. Every time it's Skeens bump day, you can go to sixth, seventh inning, and he's throwing a no-hitter. That's the new thing. You got a no-hitter happening. You got a no-hitter happening. We got a no-hitter happening. And it's not just no-hitters. We got Dyson happening. I mean, it is a full show when he's on the mound. And the Pirates might be good. Baseball is actually kind of hot right now, Tom. Yeah, Buccos are 23-19 if they face the hardest schedule so far in the MLB. So, things are looking up there. It was Skeen's day yesterday. Well, Skeen's night last night.

59:25He is now off back-to-back starts where he has gone eight innings with no earned runs. This is in the seventh. That was to break up the no-hitter. O 'Neal Cruz dove. Couldn't make the play. He made a diving play later in the inning to get Paul out of the inning. So that was awesome. And Paul just looks like he's having so much fun out there. After this, O 'Neal came into the dugout. Paul was all smiles. He gets it. But back-to-back starts, eight innings pitched, no run runs. He's setting records that hasn't been done since the early 1900s. He is absolutely absurd right now. He struck out the first six batters last night before the seventh batter decided, screw that, I'm going to bunt, which Paul laughed at too.

1:00:06He just feels like he is in a really, really good place.

1:00:09Pat McAfee:I guess Paul also said, nice bunt. And he gets caught on camera saying, nice bunt or whatever. And he goes in afterwards. He said, I don't talk to the opponent. I was probably just saying, you guys are good lip readers, he said. He gave a nice compliment. And then he said, I was probably just saying it to myself. Like, I strike out six, and then a guy goes, a bunt. I end up picking him off. Anyways, nice bunt. It's like Paul Skeens is a machine. Like, he is an absolute machine. And I think the cone. Oh, they're hoisting, brother. I think the cone being hoisted. I think the welding mask. I think the vibes, the young team.

1:00:39Pat McAfee:It's amazing what can happen whenever you get a superstar on the squad. And Paul Skeens has changed what the Pittsburgh Pirates have used to do and what they're about to become. And I love that they're building the roster. Are we going to win it all? Because I heard the Dodgers stink. I heard the Dodgers stink at baseball. The Dodgers have lost four in a row by four-plus runs, which hasn't happened for them, I believe, in, what is that, 90 years ago? What? Yeah, July 1936. They're on a bit of a skid right now. Shohei did pop out of his skid last night. He had a home run. He ended his homer-less streak, but that didn't matter.

1:01:12They still won. He's on the mound tonight. He's been unbelievable pitching, so we can see if the Dodgers can stop their skid tonight.

1:01:19Pat McAfee:Love that Ice Cube's on the mic as Shohei gets off a little bit of a shine of a run there. Shohei obviously pitching very well. The hitting had suffered while he had been pitching well. A lot of people said, see, see, not going to be able to do both. Shohei will be able to figure it out, as we believe the Los Angeles Dodgers will have as well. Anytime you get him back to 100 years or whatever, that's a long time. That's a long time. And obviously their fans are a very passionate bunch over there. Speaking of getting off the shine, Cal Rowley. Let's go, Cal. They're saying this guy was having the worst season in the history of baseball.

1:01:50He was on a 0 for 38 stretch before that hit last night in the seventh. He also had a hit in the ninth. So he had two hits last night in the seventh and the ninth. He was 0 for 36 before this game started. the night before last, sorry, two nights ago after that game when he was 0 for 36, he went into the shower in his full uniform. The team made him do that. It's kind of, you know, just get all the stink off the uniform and everything. All right, everybody pee in a bucket. Exactly.

1:02:15Pat McAfee:Putting the jersey in there, going to sleep in it. Anything can kind of get us on a different, you know, because they got rally. Baseball has a lot of this shit. Same underwear. Baseball has a lot of these things. Whenever you're on the road for a long time and you're together and you're living off of, you know, streaks and then droughts, and you can find yourself becoming very superstitious. I think baseball sets up to be a super-duper-stitious sport. I think it's been mocked and ridiculed in a lot of movies, but I think it does become a thing. I didn't know just putting a jersey on, taking a shower, makes you have a hot bat the next day.

1:02:48Pat McAfee:Everybody's going to put that in their back pocket now, and when those bats get cold, you're going to see a lot of linen in a lot of showers around clubhouses, D-Bud. Yeah, you know what? I've kind of been all in. on the baseball stuff since the WBC. We start playing Thunderball. I saw something last night in outfield. I didn't even send it in. I saw CeCe Sabathia tweet about it. Was that two nights ago? Yeah. I may be out on baseball culture after seeing this. Somebody scoured the internet. Was it Orioles? No, it was the Giants. And, you know, when you win a baseball game, your outfielders come together.

1:03:22Oh, a celebration. They were knocking knobs. Okay? Sorry, D-Bot. I know what you're talking about there.

1:03:28Pat McAfee:guy closest to camera guy closest to camera he was really going for it felt like he was the one that was the stir or the straw that was really stirring the drink he felt like he was trying to go make contact with the lad see he was the most I think that was two nights ago they got cuffs on they got pee-pee waxed they were told hey we're not doing the tummies we're not doing that anymore but they said if they're going to do it Gilbert said, I'm going to make sure I get it all. And I appreciate that. No, no, let's not talk about this. They won a game. Let's not talk about the boys kind of bumping here a little bit.

1:04:08Pat McAfee:That's what Gilbert was saying there, too. Let's not talk about this outfielder operation. Let's talk about friend of the program. Guy who now has 12 doctors, ladies and gentlemen. Picro Armstrong, center fielder. Where's the wall? Who cares? Bang, give me that. Yeah, they're talking about stats on this. The amount of feet that he covered, how fast he went in the entirety. I guess this guy, they're saying best defensive player in ball. That's what they're talking about. So whenever we mentioned doctors to him and he said, I don't know what those are or whatever, this dude is awesome. He's a bra from California.

1:04:41Pat McAfee:He's been on the program. He's been paid. He represented for the United States in a beautiful way at World Baseball Classic. Didn't really play in the final. So all of us were just like, man, I wish this guy played. Really a perfect runway for Pete Crow Armstrong to become a national sensation. and he's done it. And I think he's handled it beautifully. He's a guy out there, though. He's a guy. I love that. Yes, he does. You know what? I might be back in. Exactly. Don't be mad at the Giants fielders just because they want to hear the sound of their cups clanging together. It's a cool sound. Yeah.

1:05:13You know how sweet that is? They just beat the Dodgers by four runs. Boys, let's progress to them. That's what they're doing.

1:05:20Pat McAfee:Cups on three, boys. Gilbert wears a 3X. Uh-huh. And that's why he's the one swinging. What's that? Don't need to know that information. Well, we're just saying that's what they're doing. That's why they're doing it. That's right, guy on the right side. Whoa, what's that? Last night he said they took a bow, but there's one more thing. Oh, is that your glove? Our guy. That is Tony's glove. Yeah, our guy. Tony would do that celebration too. Yeah, 100%. If we're bumping cups, I mean, we might as well show up and do it in a big way. I think that was an aggressive decision by the lads there. I think they probably knew what was going to happen, and I do appreciate.

1:05:51Pat McAfee:This is them last night. I'm bedding over to start with. That's a national anthem. Okay, take a ball. That was their celebration last night. Should have seen them in the showers. They saved it for them. All right. What else happened in baseball? One last thing we got to get to. Our guy Schwarbo is now just absolutely raking his home run in five straight games. The Phillies themselves, since they fired their manager and they hired Don Mattingly, Donnie Baseball, they've been absolutely on a tear. They're almost back to.500 after being one of the worst teams in MLB to start the year. But Swarbo now leads the league.

1:06:23And Helmer, in five straight games, he's absolutely mashing the ball to lead the Phillies. So they're getting hot again. That's a team to watch as well.

1:06:30Pat McAfee:Cash out baseball. How many games left? 135. 135. All right, baseball. All right. Thank you, baseball. We appreciate that. Joining us now live from Manatic in Ohio is a man who created the Cup Check celebration. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Haug. Yeah, Haug. First of all, is the goal, you know, because, like, drummers have that ability to, like, hold the drum, like, the stick like this. And they're like, brrrr, brrrr. Do you think Gilbert thought they were going for more of the rattle with the cup as opposed to just, like, the boom, boom?

1:07:03Pat McAfee:Because it felt like Gilbert wanted to brrrr, you know, with the cups as they were meeting up there in the outfield. You've obviously done this before with your guys. What is kind of the mindset whenever you guys are going to do the cup bump? I tell you what, this was a bit jarring the first time that I did see it. I may not be right here, but I don't believe outfitterers are wearing cups in the major leagues. That's just me. These guys are for this. That's where you're wrong. I mean, if you're going to do something, don't just dip your toe in. Go all in. Yeah, Gilbert's doing that. He's the only one.

1:07:33He may hurt somebody here if they do this again. But, hey, man, they're just building team culture. You never know.

1:07:39Pat McAfee:I don't know if J-Dot here knew what was kind of going on. I don't know if he was fully in the know of what we were about to do. But shout out to the lads getting through a long-ass season. How many games again did you say? So, they're 40-whatever. And so, it'll be 120-ish left. Okay. That's just standard operating procedure. 120 more games. Get hot, boys. How are the Reds doing? Well, we lost a tough one last night. You can't give up 10 runs and expect to win. Again? Do you guys – We were coming off a one-game win streak, right? You know, you got to fall back sometimes. That's not a streak. Why does anybody tell your pitchers – a one-game win streak.

1:08:13Pat McAfee:Why does anybody tell your pitchers to stop throwing bigger baseballs? Like, why don't you – Well, normally, though, our pitchers have been doing great this year. We just – our bats haven't come alive. So, this is – you know, this is a little bit outside of what the norm is for the Reds. But we'll be back. Okay. I mean, look at the vision. We all know. I've said on here a thousand times. The World Series runs through the NL Central. We know that. Now is when you want to be in last. Okay. There's a couple teams on there that are in last that are going to make huge strides. You guys have been in last since the beginning.

1:08:41Pat McAfee:No, no. There's a couple. Yeah, since like day one, you guys have been the biggest ass team in baseball. You guys fired your coach already. You guys found baseball with two S's in there. We started out 1-0 against the Cincinnati Reds, so I know we haven't been in last since day one. Since day three, we've been in. Okay? But we're figuring it out. Some teams need to go do some shit. AJ, I don't know if you saw, yesterday College Game Day announced the first two shows will be live from Baton Rouge for Lane Kiffin and LSU's debut. And then down in Austin, Texas, Arch Manning takes on Julian Sane as the Buckeyes travel to take on the Texas Longhorns.

1:09:15Pat McAfee:Now, not mentioned, not announced, week three. Definitely not going to. LSU is going to Ole Miss. This was an awesome thing yesterday. I talked about this in the first hour. And I know over there in Columbus and in Ohio, it's always a buzz and always a chatter. I mean, the general is literally every morning for three hours just talking about Ohio State football on local radio and gets paid well to do that and has been doing that for 10 years and can do that for another 20 years if he wants to. There's obviously a few of those towns around the country. Columbus is certainly one. Yesterday was a great reminder of how fantastic college football is for me.

1:09:52Pat McAfee:And getting a chance to feel – obviously I see the memes and I follow and I read all the – who's where, who's doing what. I have to follow along, you know, because I'm very lucky to be a part of the college football world with College Game Day. But it's like once the video started setting on this massive stage and Dez was reading his voiceover and you were seeing some highlights, It's like, hey, college football is awesome. And the announcement of the games got me so excited. Cody Rhodes still has a black eye. Okay, so he's still feeling the punishment that me and Randy Orton put on him. Now, Randy also put a little punishment on me.

1:10:23Pat McAfee:And so did Cody. And so did Jelly Roll. So I had a little bit longer night. True. And I'll be out of business forever. It was nice to see Cody. He picked the Bulldogs, Georgia. Of course. And he started. No dog. And there was a couple dogs in the building. But it was including Peter Herbstreet. But it was nice to get in there. and feel college football again. It was awesome, AJ, and I just can't wait for it. We are 108 days away from college football, and it feels right around the corner, but every time I watch or feel college football, it's like such a special thing. I got goosebumps yesterday, AJ.

1:10:56Oh, yeah. I think just popping that, I know that picture came out that you showed up, all you guys at the desk. Seeing you guys just sitting there at the game day desk, even though I know it's the up fronts, that got me excited for football, Because that is what every Saturday will look like for us once the season finally does get here. But I think once we get into the summer months, once kids start getting out of school, you start getting in football mode, I think. That's when summer workouts start ramping up. Then, of course, August comes around. And I understand we still have a lot of time for when camp opens.

1:11:24But it feels like once camp opens, at least for us as non-players now, it'll go quickly and the season starts.

1:11:30Pat McAfee:Let's do some college football news. Tom Moore, friend of the program, legend, who was done with coaching NFL football, is not done coaching football just yet. He's 145 years old. He is now going to Iowa, his alma mater. He played quarterback and kicker there in 1914. I believe was the year in which he played there. Seriously. It was 1959, 1960. Okay, okay. Sorry, I knew there was some year, but way back there. He played there in 1959. He was an adult in 1959. That's when he played. He wasn't born then. This guy's still doing it. Tom, thank you for your commitment to ball, bro. Nobody will ever question it.

1:12:14Pat McAfee:He's hilarious. He loves ball. And whenever he went to Iowa and played there, he said it was the greatest decision he's ever made. Now I assume he feels like he can give back to his alma mater, hopefully in all these years. And maybe this makes Iowa a contender in a Big Ten. Maybe this makes Ty Schmidt and those Hawkeyes excited about the fact that they got championship pedigree. They got a Super Bowl mind and also one of the most legendary football people in the building. I think it does no harm. I think it only does well. Good for them. And I wish more people would have done this with Tom Moore.

1:12:43Pat McAfee:Why isn't he a Mountaineer right now? Go ahead, AJ. Well, you know, when he did play quarterback for the Hawkeyes, we understand him going back there. But is this like, do we think the offense for Iowa is really going to open up now? We're going to see shots down the field and be like an explosive offense we're not used to? Have you ever seen Tom Moore coaching a team that had an ass offense? No. Never. Legit. You're not going to be coaching for 80 years and not be good at what you do. Eventually you get run out of it. So I think Tom Moore's big thing, when he has Peyton Manning, we're going to do Peyton Manning.

1:13:14Pat McAfee:Okay, we are going to do Peyton Manning. Whenever Baker's here, we're going to do Baker. Whenever we do this, we're going to do this. So whoever their quarterback is, I think Tom Moore will have maybe 40 ,000 plays for that particular style of quarterback. I don't think this means that they're going to be looking for a Peyton Manning over there in Iowa. Now, it would be nice to be able to play football. It would be nice to be able to complete passes and do all that stuff. Sure. And Grinowski is certainly an absolute legend. I have nothing but great things to say about him. But I think Tom Moore will make the most out of whoever they have, whatever they have.

1:13:49Pat McAfee:Good for the Iowa Hawkeyes. We appreciate that. Ole Miss taking some shots publicly this week, and I think that's only good for week three. I know they don't love hearing all the shots that are being said. They get very pissed off. But we as college football fans can only continue to build the animosity for that week three return. They've said that place is outrageous on just a regular game. I couldn't fathom what it's going to be like whenever his ass walks back in there. And once again, game day not announced week three at LSU Ole Miss. Yeah, it might be Florida and Auburn. So don't even. Auburn, Georgia.

1:14:22Pat McAfee:It has not been announced. Steve Sarkeesian takes a shot at Ole Miss. On three is reporting that at Texas, they only take 50 % of a player's academic credit hours. You may be a semester from graduating, but you're going all the way back to 50 % if you want to play here and transfer here and get a degree. But Ole Miss, they can take you. All you have to do is take basket weaving and get an Ole Miss degree. Jeez. That's uncalled for. Ole Miss is taking a lot of shots to the shins right now. A lot of shots to the shins. Sark and Lane were together at USC, so they're old pals. So I assume Sark's got a certain feeling about sticking up for Lane.

1:14:58But it's not like Ole Miss fired Lane. I'm pretty sure he chose to leave on his own. So, you know, it would be nice if Lane just left and kept his mouth shut and went and coached at LSU instead of taking shots at his old alma mater. He had a great time there. Why can't we just all be friends? You can leave. Yes, he's pissed he wasn't allowed to coach in the playoff. Well, you shouldn't have left before the playoff started. Okay?

1:15:17Pat McAfee:Well, that's the schedule of the calendar. They said that's not me. I thought I was not happy to be a part of that entire city. I know. I did not like that we had to talk about it on game day. I did not like that we had a relationship with Lane. That quickly spiraled into something that I was like, I don't like this. I don't like that a coach is leaving his team. I don't like that at all. That's like the whole Urban Meyer whenever he was with the Jags thing. My biggest problem, and obviously a lot came from it, he didn't fly home with the team. It's like you're a coach of the team. you fly with the team like that is how let's go so a coach leaving his team before the biggest games i just got like kind of disgusted by it like but then the explanation on why it had to happen it's like okay i guess that makes sense but i don't i don't like it at all and then everything that kind of followed up i was like it was kind of like it felt dirty yeah it did and it was like such a good college football season and college football was so spectacular and it was the The environments were electric, just like they always are.

1:16:18Pat McAfee:And everything was the ratings that more people watching college football than ever before. And if you look at the NFL numbers versus college football numbers, it's like football fans still have a lot of chance to kind of fall in love with this incredible thing that is college football. So second largest sport in America, second largest sport in league wise. Oh, sorry. I guess you got to put soccer in there. And they got 100 leagues. Good leagues. Second largest sport in America. In America? Second largest sport. Are we talking America? Well, I was about to say the world, but then in my head I heard.

1:16:44Pat McAfee:Football should just be America. Is that right, pal? We were just watching the super-duper Europa League. World games. Yeah, that's what he was about to say there. You know, Europa is after the Champions League. If you're in the Champions League, top four of your league over there in Europe, you get in the Champions League, you play on Wednesday nights. But if you're kind of ass but kind of good in all your leagues, you can play in the Europa League. They play on Thursday nights, and then there's the local leagues on Sundays. It's like you guys got too many fucking leagues. Is America going to win a World Cup?

1:17:11Pat McAfee:Yes. We got MLS tonight. Wednesday night MLS. Doesn't get any better than this. Yeah! The Messi and the boys in Cincinnati? Are you kidding me? I heard the Chicago Fire now have a McDonald's in their stadium. Did you hear that? I did not hear that. Chicago Fire, McDonald's Stadium. Is that big news? Is it on Apple Store? McDonald's is great, but is that really huge news? Yeah. A lot of money, Hawker. Bone just got season six. Yeah, Bone's going to close the game now. You're right. Yeah, you're right. You know what I want? Triple burger, no ketchup. You guys got nuggets? No, I don't like ketchup.

1:17:49Naming rights. I get it. That's a little bigger. Yeah, say it's a McDonald's stadium. Yeah. One solitary McDonald's. I don't know if that's newsworthy. Yes, it is. It's a stadium. They got one in the airport, too. They're loving it. What's that, dude? If there's one in the airport, too, then we know. There is. It's a huge news. Okay.

1:18:06Pat McAfee:If I fly into Chicago and they're like, welcome to McDonald's airport, and there is a McDonald's in the airport, I will certainly say that's huge news. Okay. It's not out here. I thought we were flying into. It's fucking McDonald's Stadium. They've never done this before. Here's a McDonald's in there. Best nugs in the world coming fresh out of this game. Now, the Chicago Fire. I only know one other fire team really doing it right now. That's Portland Fire. Amen. Portland Fire. Game-winning fucking layup. Did you see this? Me? No, I did not. Watch this. Portland Fire. Brand new team up there. Bang.

1:18:38Pat McAfee:Now, Chicago have had the fire name for a long time as a professional team. Portland says give it to us. Step back. Oh! Pass off the glass. Rebound. Layup. What a pass. Boom. Champs go down. Can we get the audio from this so we can hear this pop? Okay. We did not have the pop, but the place did go crazy over there. It was a pass off the glass. Fire beat the Libs. Now, I love that name, the fire. But when I saw, I just read this update. Fire beat Liberty. Okay. I thought the Chicago Fire played in a cross-promotional thing and beat them. Portland Fire, brand-new team. Way to go, Portland Fire. Let's go, Portland.

1:19:22Pat McAfee:It's your first win. 90, how many points? 98 points? So, yeah, 98, 96 to get the win. It was an unbelievable three, a few possessions before this, by the libs to take the lead. But this is a great game. We talked about it a couple days ago with them in their first game, having over 19 ,000 people in attendance. And obviously it was a bunch of them in seats. last night as well. But, yeah, that pop from the crowd was one of the loudest pops I've ever heard in a basketball game. Commissioner Engelberg came on our show and said, we are looking at cities that would certainly seem to like the WNBA. And we didn't even have to follow up and say, like, what do you mean?

1:19:58Pat McAfee:It's like Portland seems like a great town. They have shown up in a huge way. Not only great sports fans. We see that with every sport that they have. But also picking, yes. I like what the WNBA is doing. I like what they're doing. The Toronto team, too. I think they had over a million viewers in Canada for their first game. So that's crazy. Fever Dallas was 2.49 million, I think, this weekend. Now, that is Don from last year's game, which was Sky Fever, which was obviously Angel Reese versus Caitlin Clark to kick it all off. Magic Bird. Yeah, exactly. What it was billed as, at least. 2.49 million.

1:20:32What the fuck are you laughing at, Tony? That was you, Connor?

1:20:35Pat McAfee:That was me. Why? Magic Bird. Yeah. Look, I appreciate what you're doing up here. That's the comparison. Don't throw Larry Bird into it. I appreciate what you're doing, Butch. Easy. We don't know. We don't know. Is that magic? We don't know. Magic Bird won a lot of championships. Magic Bird. Easy. Oh, you're right. Angel has won a championship. I guess everyone in the conversation has it. Yeah, in a major league. In a W? In a major league, Butch. Not in a three-on-three league. Easy. I was talking about a college. Listen, Kelsey Mitchell, okay? Katelyn Clark. Bucket. Sophie. Lexi. Raven. What?

1:21:16Pat McAfee:Stephanie White, the coach. Boston. Fever about to win. Leah Boston. Sorry. Leah Boston, obviously. Fever about to win it all. And they're starting with being ratings skinks. Yeah. And if you go over the last couple years, the highest rated games are either Fever games or the game directly after the Fever games. I believe they have fed into, like, the fifth highest rated, sixth highest rated. It's like, whoa, these teams are doing really good. And then you go, look, it's like people fell asleep watching the Fever. Got it. That's why they're still watching. So the Fever need to be good. We appreciate the hell out of them.

1:21:46Pat McAfee:And then you got that Liberty team that's obviously filled with legends and icons. The Vegas Aces in the middle of a potential dynastic run here. Asia, unbelievable. She's having a lot of fun. She has a good time out there beating the shit out of everybody. Much better. She really does. Really good. I mean, she is 6 '4", obviously. But the amount of juice she has, like smiling while kind of just bawling, I wouldn't be surprised she goes for 84 points maybe. She might. Yeah, you know what I mean? Just one more to bam, you know, just so that can all happen. Let's go to the NHL. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man we've never talked to.

1:22:21Pat McAfee:We've never talked to this guy before. No. Seen him on TV, though. We look at a picture of this guy. Imagine. Looks like he's out of a movie. Mm-hmm. Ladies and gentlemen, an incredibly handsome Minnesota man. who played in the NHL for 18 years? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's accurate. He's an adult. This is not the first time I'm reading this, like when Trump found out about the Rose Bowl outcome. Holy shit. 18 years in the NHL? First overall. Wait till you see how good this guy looks. I couldn't imagine how many pucks have just... Oh. So many pucks this guy's... Eating pucks. Oh, he was so fast, he caught him.

1:23:04Pat McAfee:You're right. Yeah. That's what he does with this neat platinum jaw. Ladies and gentlemen, Stanley Cup champion, Eric Johnson. Yeah, Rude. This fucking guy. Yeah, right. That's out of a movie, isn't it? 18. How you doing, bro? No makeup today, boys. No makeup. This is natural. I got no foundation. I got no powder. This is natural. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, though. 18 years is a long time to potentially just be eating pox as a defenseman. The hair flow, the glow, and the chicklets here. Unbelievable work. Eric, way to go, bud. And your parents, it sounds like. Incredible genes there. Okay.

1:23:46Pat McAfee:Let's talk about hockey right now. It's wonderful. We love everything that's happening in hockey. Obviously, the ratings are very indicative of how the country, I think, feels about hockey right now. fresh out of the Olympics where Team USA women and men kind of dominate and put the entire – I mean, it's up and to the right for everything. What's your favorite team that is still around? And whenever you look at that Colorado – you won a cup there – Colorado-Minnesota game series, a lot of defensemen kind of the stars of what's going on. Is that special to your heart, or how do you kind of view what's going on in Colorado-Minnesota right now?

1:24:20Pat McAfee:Because this Colorado team, people are saying maybe the greatest of all time, Eric. Maybe the greatest team of all time out there on the ice. Yeah, I mean, I think this abs team, you guys, like they could go 16 and one the whole way and win the cup. I mean, the wild are a contender in their own right, but the abs just feel like they have that edge. And you said it, like the defense that they have, they get so much offense from their D. And I think everyone thinks, you know, defense, you're just sitting back there, you're defending, you're hitting. But these guys put the puck in the net, like Makar.

1:24:54Taves, all these guys are so good offensively. The Avs just seem like they're on a different level right now. And did you see that butt end the other night that Manson threw on McCarron? McCarron said, I hope they don't kick him out of the game because I want a piece of him after. They have a little bit of an edge to him too. So they can do a little bit of everything. This has been an awesome series. Like it's a shame it might only go five. Like I think they probably close it out tonight at home in Denver, but it's an awesome series.

1:25:21Pat McAfee:Incredible series. Yeah, Quinn Hughes too. has become not only a sensation because of the Olympics, but the shit he's doing on the ice against this Avalanche team, which is obviously big, fast, strong, is outrageous. So I appreciate that. And you talk about them going 16-1, maybe throughout the entirety of the run. And we thought they were going to be on a collision course with another team that could be undefeated going into the cup final in the East and the Carolina Hurricanes. Why are they so good? And when you watch them, what is your thoughts on their potential? You know, are they going to be able to beat this Avalanche team inevitably if they get to the cup against each other?

1:25:50I think if you put this whole playoffs through a simulation right now, would be no disrespect to any team still playing. I think it's going to be Colorado, Carolina. These teams just, they feel destined to play each other almost. And what Carolina does for me is they have like four second lines. You know, some teams, they'll have a top-heavy first line, then they'll have some depth sprinkled in. But Carolina, they have four lines that play exactly the same. And if you put them on any other team, to me, they're all second lines. They all play to the same identity. they're all on the same page they just do everything as a connected group and when you're playing against them it just feels like you're you're drinking water through a fire hose like they're just they come at you the same way every single line so they just have that connectivity to their group that makes them so dangerous and their crowd in in Raleigh is nuts like for a team that maybe they don't say is a true hockey market these fans are unbelievable they get so much out

1:26:50Pat McAfee:of their crowd yeah the raging caniacs have obviously been going bananas down there for a long time let's talk about the crowds though they've been spectacular go ahead con man yeah eric two true hockey markets buffalo montreal it feels like every single time they're on the tv you know their crowds are going nuts in montreal the ole ole ole was insane uh and then in buffalo as well they're drinking beers out of sabers and going absolutely ballistic uh what do you think about when you see them playing I mean for Montreal Marty St. Louis got those guys going it is incredible to see even him in the locker room pregame after the game has been awesome how do you see them kind of faring how do you see this series kind of going and is both these teams being young and inexperienced maybe going to help them against Carolina just because they don't realize how massive of a moment it is yeah and I think the other thing with both those teams is they're kind of playing with house money no one thought Buffalo was going to make the playoffs much less get this far.

1:27:47Probably the same with Montreal, maybe a little higher expectations. But to me, this has been the most fun series to watch. There's piss and vinegar in these young guys. They have high skill. This Zach Benson kid that scores right here is a complete pain in the ass to play against. He's just a little rat. He's like a mini Marchand. He's only 21, just bought his first beer legally yesterday. And he's been kind of the X factor for me for the Sabres. but these two teams are going to be around for a long time. And the hot dog in the press box, I've been healthy scratched a few times there in Montreal.

1:28:22Fantastic hot dog. If you don't, if you haven't had it, have to have it. Damn right. Stories are.

1:28:27Pat McAfee:What is it? Okay. So what's up with this hot dog? We got a crispy outer coat or is it just a delightful? What is the difference? It's the bread perfectly toasted with the bun. Sprinkle a little mustard, sprinkle a little ketchup. Fantastic. Get the hot dog in the press box. Unbelievable. Okay. I'm going to head up there and go to the press. I'm sure we – so we walk in, we get elevator, and then go press. Use your press pass, Pat. Get up to the top. Oui, oui, right? With the French people. It's going to walk you right in for the hot dog. You get the hot dog. You get a Labatt, maybe a Molson. Good to go.

1:28:58Pat McAfee:Oh, Triple X. Now goes a Molson. Oh, dude, this is crazy. What's the no tax thing? What is it, duty-free? I'm getting some duty-free shit on the way out, too. I'm certainly doing that as I go up there. You can bring the dogs back. Oh, my God. Hey, bonjour, je m 'appelle pas, je veux un hot dog Oh, Eric Johnson When he was scratch, healthy scratch Do you have a lot of that So the Montreal hot dog, I assume we know about this Is this a well-known thing This is a thing, this is a thing In the NHL circles, you know, you get a big Bucket of these things after the game You'd have a cooler beer Yep, there they are Look at the toasted outside You see the toast, that's the key A little char on the outside it's unbelievable and then a little snap on the hot dog unbelievable merci beaucoup Montreal you know American thing here the hot dog and they just seemingly have taken it and made it so much better I cannot wait to get up there okay let's get back to hockey it'll change your life is there any ass ones any places you've gone to where they just kind of give you just like meat like a fire fest type fucking like a cheese sandwich is there any of that anywhere uh there's a couple places i don't want to i don't want to bury him right now but there's a few of those how many how many of those dogs have kessel has kessel phil kessel didn't he fill up the stanley cup with a bowl of hot dogs try to get traded to montreal well eric that all happened because one writer said that this guy was drinking hot dog juice before games and then that obviously took on a life as you know this you know this but whatever works whatever works right do you uh drink your own pee stay healthy over there in hockey you guys have to be in incredible shape.

1:30:42Pat McAfee:Do you guys do any weird shit to keep the body together? Well, you saw the abs swimming before the game the other night, right? You see that clip? McKinnon swimming in the pool? They're not eating that shit. It worked. McKinnon is not. McKinnon's drinking water, and we are not eating no hot dogs. No hot dogs. No pop! No nothing. See, I wore the full Speedo. He wore the shorts. So we would do that in the playoffs, but I had the nice Speedo on to get a little extra glow. But this is what these guys been doing they've been doing this for like three or four years so apparently it's the pressure of the pool when you get low enough just to clear the lack that the acid out of your legs when you fly so these guys have been doing it's the whole team it's not just nate they've been doing this on off days on um nate would miss some practices and he'd go with his uh physiotherapist there and they would just go swim this guy's a complete lunatic in a good way about finding like an edge to to stay on top of his game it's it's really unreal yeah i've read a couple of the articles about him being a lunatic and people being like hey you're a little bit too much of a lunatic but us in our sport we got tom brady who i think in a similar way people would say he's a lunatic and then he obviously goes on to become who he is which is a dope conversation thank you for clarifying what's happening there because all anybody was talking about was this guy's got flippers on a hotel pool and you said actually this is a recovery thing with lactic acid whenever you get lower in the pool and stuff we did not hear the real story that was a week ago right yeah yeah that's the first time i've heard what was happening there put it on the ticket hey look at you dude handsome So, Eric, hot dog news.

1:32:08Pat McAfee:We got some recovery news. Keep them coming, pal. AJ has a question for you about hockey. Yeah, Eric, as a casual fan, I feel like sometimes a goalie can stand on his head throughout the playoffs and give a team a chance, I guess. When you look at these teams that are left, I guess, who do you feel best about in net there as a goalie? In the Avs series, I think – well, the old saying goes, if you have two goalies, you don't have any goalies. But I think that narrative has changed over the years. It used to be you'd ride your starter 60, 70 games in the regular season, and then he'd play every single playoff game unless he got the hook.

1:32:43But for the Avs, it's been Blackwood and Wedgwood all season long, 1A, 1B. One would slip, the other would step up. And then for Minnesota, it was Gustafson, the Gus Bus, all season long. For the most part, he was the Wilds' number one goalie. But Jesper Valstead, he's kind of their future franchise guy and goal. He's kind of taken the reins in the playoffs and ran with it. But to me, the goaltending has taken a little bit of a backseat to how much these guys can score and how dynamic both teams are offensively. Like Hughes and Makar, as everyone knows, everyone knows Makar. I think Hughes has closed that gap a little bit.

1:33:20I think Cale's still the best defenseman in the league, but Hughes has closed that gap. But just the ability these guys have on the offensive end of the rink is so fun to watch. But the goaltending all season long for both these teams has kind of just been a seesaw, and they've rotated in and out. So I think it's going to just come down to the Avs being able to close it out at home tonight with home ice.

1:33:38Pat McAfee:How big is Makar? Not big. Not big. And he's not real cut either, right? He's still kind of got that baby fat to him, but he's just a freak. He's got huge legs. He has like the mental side of his game. He just doesn't get rattled or fazed. He's just straight, even keel right down the middle. He's probably six feet, a buck 90. and I mean I still feel like he could grow into that frame a little bit more if he wanted to but you don't want to screw with what's working for him what are you 18 years as a defenseman in the NHL what is your dims what are your dims my what dims come on your dims what are dims like dimensions like height and weight he's talking about dims dude I've never heard of that uh nobody else has either what are you fluctuated all right so like 10 years ago i was 220 and then when i got a little older towards the end of my career last year i was pushing like 238 i was having too many mick goldens and you know hot dogs in the back of the bus a little less towels being burned but yeah that 220 range was kind of my sweet spot i wasn't in my sweet spot too long how tall right around 6 '4".

1:34:49Wow. That's what I'm saying. Getting a little wider, not getting any taller. I need to get some of those peptides.

1:34:53Pat McAfee:We got them if you need them. The science is amazing right now. You should definitely take advantage, especially at 6 '4". Jesus Christ. With this face? What do you guys inject? What are you injecting? Are you taking the pill? No, I've gotten to the point where we're doing science real. Yeah, I'm doing it. I could send you over a whole kit and caboodle, pal. I can't laugh. We got this entire thing. I'll get over. I mean, who knows what we're borrowing from the end, but whatever. I guess we'll figure that out at a different time. You're 6 '4", though, right? That's how I view, like, NHL defensemen is big.

1:35:24Pat McAfee:McCarr, not big. Quinn Hughes, small, right? He's like a smaller fella on the ice. And he's what? You just said he's closed the gap to potentially becoming the second best, maybe even become, at one point, the best defenseman in the entire NHL. Is that an evolution of the game? Like, why is that kind of happening, you think? Yes, exactly right. Like it used to be, as you guys know, it used to be hook and hold. And the defenseman didn't need to skate as well as they need to now. Now it's almost like you have wingers playing D, but they're defensemen. I mean, these guys, Hughes might be one of the best.

1:35:57Well, he is one of the best skaters in the NHL, but he might be the best skater in the NHL. And McCarr is no different. And I think the best way I could describe it is defensemen are so deceptive with their hands and their shot. But these guys are so deceptive. If you watch their hips and the way they move, not only are they juking with their hands, but they juke with their body and their legs too, which just can put defenders in a complete blender when you're trying to come out against these guys. Like they're too quick. Like it's like doing the, it's like doing the 10 and two with your feet.

1:36:27You know what I mean? Like these guys are just so shifty. Just watch them tonight. When they get to the top of the blue line, they'll get the puck and they won't only be deceptive with their hands. They'll be juking with their hips and it just can put you in a total pretzel.

1:36:39Pat McAfee:Okay. So you're backing up. back skating, what the fuck you call it? You're skating backwards, okay? I don't know what you guys do. Defense, a lot of that. And you're reading body, puck. What are you doing? You're reading where puck's supposed to go. What is kind of what you're looking at as you're going back there? Yeah, so if you're at the blue line as a defenseman and you have the puck, the forward's going to come out at you from their net and try and defend you. But Makar and Hughes and these guys are so good, like I said, not only with the puck, but they're quick with their feet right so they're doing like three different they're doing like the macarina while they're walking the blue line right so it's like how do you defend these guys they can shoot it by you they can stick handle it by they can skate it by you just their their ability to change not only how they're skating but how they're handling the puck at the same time it's it's unbelievable it's it's like witchcraft it's it's it's unreal these guys are just complete freaks i love that you're i think you're a pretty big freak as well you skate still or no I'm done.

1:37:40I don't want to ever put them on again. I've gotten asked to play in these alumni games. I'm done. I'm not putting it on. My feet hurt. My toes are all messed up. I'm not putting the skates on anymore. I'm done.

1:37:49Pat McAfee:I think you've done enough. Yeah, 18 years in the NHL is a long time. You going to play ball hockey, maybe a little deck hockey? Yeah. I'm out. I'm out. I'm going to Cabo in about five hours to play golf. No skates. Just golf. You're going to be great at that. 6 '4 with the timing. Oh, yeah. Hit it a mile. Good for you, dude. I don't know. You're going to get burnt like a mile. I definitely get burnt down there. Yeah. Take it all in. Yeah. Take it all in. Happy, happy life for you, man. Good for you. Thank you for your commitment to sport. Thank you for stopping by. You're phenomenal. Hopefully get a chance to chat with you more.

1:38:21Thanks boys. Anytime. Have a great day. So you work with the,

1:38:24Pat McAfee:so I don't fucking know. You're on ESPN. When are you on it? When are you on ESPN? How come I, we did, did we know this picture? Between the benches, they don't want to give me a lot of airtime. You know, they not a lot of this, right? So mostly just between the benches, and then I'll be involved later in the playoffs here. So I'll catch you on the tube. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Stanley Cup champ Eric Jones here. Yeah, Eric. I like him. Yeah, he was great, yeah. 18 years in the NHL, defenseman. We should have probably known that there was probably going to be a good lad in there if we had to guess.

1:38:59Pat McAfee:Healthy scratches towards the end. I was 238, 240 there. Too many Molesons. Too many Molesons or Mick Golds. Mick Golds. What is a McGold? What does that mean? Is that old school Michelob? Is that like Michelob Diesel? Yeah, like the high life, the Miller high life of Michelob. Michelob Golden Light. Michelob Golden Light? Is that like the Bud Light Blue that they were giving us that had like 14 % alcohol? Do you remember that? This one's got a 4.1. Yeah, those ones. Those were a problem. Yeah, they were. You had three of those, you were feeling good. It's a premium American style light lager.

1:39:31Get some McGolds in here.

1:39:33Pat McAfee:This guy loves them. Eric gained 20 pounds on these things. Montreal hot dogs and Mick Golds. Oh, what a life for him. Good combo. That's stick tops for Eric. Yeah, stick tops. Stick tops for EJ. Good work, EJ. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is an icon.

1:39:54Pat McAfee:An actual icon. Not many people in the sports world, you can say their name, and everybody on earth knows who the fuck it is. That just doesn't happen at all. and who we are about to chat with is about to make the return to the octagon for the first time since 2016. Ladies and gentlemen, cut a sick promo at the first press conference. About to kick some ass on Netflix. Ladies and gentlemen, the first ever UFC Bantamweight champion, icon, Ronda Rousey. Yeah, Ronda! You realized it was a promo. You're the first person to call it out for being that. Well, certainly. We also respect the hell out of your time at the WWE and going into that world.

1:40:37Pat McAfee:And obviously, there's a sense, you know, because the crowd is completely around you. You're used to this, obviously, with fighting. But in wrestling, there's a goal to every single thing that's happening and you've got no room for air. You're pretty exposed out there, you know, and you can kind of, I think you throwing yourself into that world, I had massive respect for it because you were goat conversation in your world. So I appreciated the fact that you undid that. I love the run that you had. And I also appreciate that was, hey, the promo you cut for this fight about like, hey, I birthed all of you basically.

1:41:08Pat McAfee:Incredible promo. Yeah. We need to run that one back too. I don't know what's happening after this particular fight. We need to run. Let's talk about this though. First fight since 2016. Obviously in incredible shape. We saw that. WWE are incredible shape. You're always going to be, we assume, and know what you're doing. Why now? And how do you feel getting there? What should we expect from you? Is it going to be similar to what we saw from Ronda Rousey back in the day? Is there an evolution to the fighting style? Like, how do you kind of feel about going in this weekend? There's definitely an evolution to the fighting style.

1:41:41I think the two of us are really unique in that we have that styles-making fights aspect that you don't really see so much anymore, you know? Everyone's kind of become like a generalist these days, But we have those specialties that are now informed by, you know, years of evolution of the sport. And so I think this is a combination that's never been been seen before and something truly unique. And it used to be that you could blur people's faces out and you would know exactly who was fighting just by their style. And I really don't think that's it's hard to tell now these days. And me and Gina are so unique that, yeah, putting us together, it kind of goes back to like when UFC started and I was like, what's better, Muay Thai or Judo?

1:42:26And it's like that plus, you know, everything that we've learned since the, you know, the first UFC when you had someone coming out with a single boxing club.

1:42:38Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. The first UFC, obviously, anytime you watch that's sick and then you automatically go, wow. If somebody would have happened upon just the country of Brazil, back in the day just accidentally you know no matter what your size was that's what i remember from the first ufc just hey anybody can get this thing and uh be out uh have you been training throughout this entire time obviously as soon as i see travis double leg him arm bar him anytime that needs to happen but a fighting family uh tell him we said what's up but how has it have you maintained training it feels like some of you fighters it's like just a part of your life forever.

1:43:11Pat McAfee:How long have you gotten back into this? And yeah, how's the body feel, I guess, going into a fight? I've been training like the last year and a half, basically from six weeks after I had my last baby. So as soon as I was cleared to go, I've been training and it's actually just felt incredible. Like this is what my body is meant to do. I've been an athlete since I was six years old. And so like being sedentary is almost like worse for me. And so I've never felt healthy or never felt better. And, uh, Trav actually put a whole octagon in our like garage. So I'm just like, you know, watching the babies with the babies.

1:43:47And then like, I just like walk out and then my, I'm spoiled now where all my coaches and training partners come to me and I just like go out and I do my training and then I turn around and I go right back into the house and back to the babies and they're in the gym and, and part of it as well. And so, yeah, it's, uh, it's kind of like a like a seamless mesh of it's not like training over here where you had to like go to a stadium and your family had to stay home and then you go home to your family i got to like mix the two of them all the time which was which was great it like helped my energy up all the time i think the biggest difference is just recovery no i can't okay listening to you talk about that uh being

1:44:26Pat McAfee:just a badass while doing mom and this entire thing what was the promo you cut about every muscle in your body is i forget what it was you said oh the no dmp promo yeah my body is for a purpose yeah yeah yeah it's not yeah i'm not i'm not training to like my what is it for my body isn't for fucking billionaires i was just thinking about that as you're walking into the garage you say you're spoiled no you earn that shit you you you walk into the garage you train they go back in mom a little bit i'm like you most badass mom of all time just hey you understand the deal here okay dad bought a cage build a cage mom's gonna go beat the fuck out of some people in here all right you're gonna do the same and then we're gonna continue to live i'm happy you're balancing that and also showcasing to a lot of people that it's possible i can't wait to see you continue to build through this all and shout to jake paul and mvp and netflix providing an incredible opportunity here not only for you fighting as a whole combat sports as a whole you getting attached to this is a big deal for uh i think the sports world we're pumped about it now we have more questions obviously go ahead aj yeah ronda i guess with with time you know i think if people get older it gives you perspective i know pat and i talk about it a lot i guess what's your perspective like now does it feel different going into this fight what you said as a mom with the kids with everything you have around you i guess do you feel much better does it feel like hey i got other stuff that's bigger than fighting as well that i can focus on i guess mentally where are you right now yeah i think that entirely i think when i was younger like everything was the end of the world and winning was everything and I thought that any other perspective than that would weaken me and now that I have kids and I have like you know priorities above this I didn't realize that it would actually make me better at it and have all of that weight lifted on me and have so much more more energy to to draw from even though like I have kids waking me up in the middle of the night and stuff like that it's like I have more energy than ever before I felt like was so like bogged down and like overworked and chronically over-trained and now I have to be so efficient with my time I can't just be like insecure about oh am I doing enough and just like just doing way too much and wearing my body down way too much because I'm so insecure and I want to make sure that I'm doing more than anybody else and now it's like okay I um I get one long training session in the morning I do like three to four hours straight and I'm like okay what am I going to do in that time i have to be able to do everything at once and i'm spending the rest of the day on recovery instead of just training all day and training all day and training all day like i would get home after training before and be like i didn't do enough and i'd get outside and i go like run sprints in the sand or something like that and i i was just constantly just doing more because i was afraid and now it's just like this is your allotted time do all your shit and so it's like you know my coaches are so much more organized they're all like they do like uh they're like daily debriefs of every single training session and what they worked on.

1:47:24And they have like zoom meetings without me there to like go over everything that was happening. And they're like all coordinating and being like, okay, this is what we're doing. This is what we're aiming at. And we're just, everything is so much more organized and streamlined than it's ever been before.

1:47:37Pat McAfee:Man, it sounds like you're really doing it. So have we thought, I don't want to put this in your world and I should have paid attention to more interviews that you've done if you've already addressed this. so you now remember you can ask trav i got a great double leg i mean but right here we're going right here okay we're going right here behind the knees okay you can it's that this fight how many are we doing is this what are we going in there feeling how we feel after and then making this like what is the conversation about what you're going to because it sounds like you are loving the process which is normally the part that i think uh people that are uh riding off at a sunset hate they hate getting back into the full process feels like you have welcomed getting back into the process and almost enjoyed it more than ever have has there been discussions on what this looks like for you and everything like that or no uh well i am definitely loving it more than ever before um but there's definitely been people trying to convince me to continue um because there's a lot of money that could be made but um i feel like this is the absolute peak for me this is my dream fight this is the way that i always wanted to end it and to go out and um and i want to have more kids too you know we want to try for at least two more and um it's like i i found a way to fit this into the rest of my life you know i'm not gonna like derail everything else for this but um throughout this process i mean it's kind of become a little obvious that there's like a huge opportunity here for me to to be that promoter role and to i mean there's an opportunity for me to step in to be the head of you know mvp and mma if this is a huge success and you know be an actual rival for the ufc and give fighters some bargaining power and to like be their dana Madonna just turned out Hi, what's going on Madonna?

1:49:34Pat McAfee:There's a sign It's a sign Yeah, I think so What is the song? Did Madonna just walk Girls just want to have fun Okay It feels like it is a sign Universe just dropped through and Madonna In your house I should be a promoter now Jake heard that Hey, come on But on that, the business side of it all giving back to the sport that has obviously given you a lot would be dope to watch. And it'd be a cool thing to kind of see you evolve into that role and see what business you guys can create over there. I love what Jake's doing, man. I really do. I think he loves it as well. I heard some chatter, though.

1:50:13Pat McAfee:You talked to Ariel, right? He might be done. Yeah, about his job. He said the doctor hasn't cleared him or is nervous to clear him, so he might not fight again, actually. But I think he'll still continue to give back. Oh, yeah. And through this process, what have you learned about Netflix's want for this to be great? because obviously the Tyson-Jake Paul fight was at$60 million or something like that. I think Jake Paul said he's expecting$20 million. That would be a conservative number if we saw in this particular fight. You're talking about the biggest numbers of all time for the game. How has it been working with Netflix, and how has it been in the opportunity roles and what you've been learning about what's possible?

1:50:44I mean, Netflix has been amazing in that they have been, you know, increasingly seeing how much potential there is here to investing more and more and more and more. I mean, who keeps putting music on it? Is that Trav? Get off your phone.

1:51:01Pat McAfee:I like his Bluetooth. He's connecting to Bluetooth. Hey, you're watching videos. You got to go to the top right corner, hit the little circle button. The worst. Oh, no, yeah. We're about to learn a lot. Yeah, but they've been great. And we're doing open workouts, like, in Venice Beach, like, with the sun, you know, the sun setting. And, you know, they were doing, like, band events and putting, like, you know, giant hexagons out for people to do stuff. the stuff that like the UFC used to do and they kind of like you know stopped doing so much like the the Netflix went all out into the promotion and doing like great commercials and um I was able to um uh make a work out a partnership with Capcom and we did like special like street fighter like like homage like uh like fight shirts and stuff like that remember when these big cool fight shirts.

1:51:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, I only wore Affliction, but yeah, I do remember the cool shirts too. Yeah, there was a lot of good. Yeah, but they did, like, I got, they made one with, like, you know, me and Gina as, like, Cammie and Chun-Li and, like, Where? Where's this shit at? Is this available right now? Yeah, it's on my story, I think, on my Instagram, and they got, like, Nate and Mike Perry as Sagat and Zongi, and then we got, what's it called, Francis Ngannou and Linz as Akuma and Ryu. I mean, it's really cool. I was able to work this out because I have friends with one of the guys that's head of 90 % Animation and he was like, oh, I know the guys at Capcom and stuff like that.

1:52:35They just elevated everything that beyond we ever would have been able to do if we didn't have an incredible partner like Netflix. We're on the Randy's Donut. The Randy's Donut Donut. They put a big hexagon over the donut.

1:52:48Pat McAfee:Okay, I like that. I like what they're doing. This is the entire fight card for Netflix as we run up on a hard out here. This is the entire card, main card, 9 p.m., 6 p.m. Pacific time. They'll go live on Netflix. We assume it'll be an entire cast of characters covering the fight. And let's enjoy it all. We cannot wait to watch you get back in there. Thank you for doing this for us as sports fans. And congratulations on enjoying the hell out of the process. Good luck against Gina, and we can't wait to see it all. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on, guys. Hey, you got to tell Trav he needs to watch who he's Bluetooth connected to.

1:53:22Pat McAfee:Yeah. We'll learn a lot about him. You know, he's out there. Girls just want to have fun having his day. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Ronda Rousey. Yeah, Ronda. Yeah. I think they're really trying to go. That card is kind of unbelievable, actually. Names everywhere. Everywhere. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then Ronda, at this stage of her life, she seems so at peace with it. Like enjoying the process, cutting promos, what's next, how can I tie this together? It's like sometimes you've got to take that road to get there, and then all the info that you've collected can benefit.

1:53:56Pat McAfee:Feels like we're about to see that on Saturday. Good luck to all of them as they fight. We'll continue digitally as SportsCenter takes it from here. Be a friend, tell your friends, I'm nice and might change the life. I think I got it. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I think she's going to win. For sure. A lot of people think she might win within the first minute in Armbar. Oh, really? So, that's why I asked, like, what are we, are we judoing the shit out of this and getting right to the arm bar? Is that what we're doing? Because it felt like she could get there anytime she wanted back in the day. Like, hey, let me, and yep, fucking gotcha.

1:54:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's what I thought. So. I mean, Turtle. Yeah. Had to get it. Turtle got it. Yeah, had to. Adam Pearce. Mm-hmm. Yep. That guy saw it. Adam Pearce. I actually, now that we dealt with foreign Adam Pearce, I think we're kind of bigger fans of Adam Pearce. Of the other, yeah. Don't you think? Yeah, he is. What was that guy's name? Nobody would tell me. Every week I kept saying, Ford Adam Pierce. I thought that's what it was. Like hoping somebody would tell me. Was that not what it was? He's just a wannabe under guy. He was very handsome. And also, there was a couple times I put my hands on him.

1:54:58Pat McAfee:Strapping him, Alex? Cut a jack. He's like this table. There was a couple times I hit him a little bit. I'm like, I don't think I should be hitting this guy that hard. But he'll never fucking know that. Nope. Get out of here. What's his name? Ford Adam Pierce. That's it. You guys are terrible. Nick. Aldis. Aldis. Thank you. Aldis Snow if you will. Yes exactly. I thought that was him. But Adam Pierce caught a real brutal one from Triple H from Ronda if you remember. Oh yeah. I'm a big one out there. And it is great. I know that's what. What's the odds? It's fascinating because Gino. Sorry. Gina obviously has a lot of experience and everything like that.

1:55:40Pat McAfee:But I think all of us naturally, our brains go back whenever we think about female fighters in the past. It's like Ronda. She's like the one. Ronda's the headline. She's minus 500. She changed the entire UFC. She did. Oh, yeah. Ronda changed the entire. Her and Conor McGregor would be the two that sent UFC to what it sent. Just ability, character, reaction, polarizing, like everything you want. Mainstream. She was very, very mainstream during her run, like everywhere. She was great on Entourage when she was in there. Yeah. Connor wanted to ask about Fast and Furious as well. Uh-huh. She was in that movie.

1:56:15Like, she was all over the place. I think her and McGregor were the first on the video game cover or one of the first couple video games that they made. Like, that was, to your guys' point, like, when UFC, to me, became, like, the biggest it ever was. Gina was in Fast and Furious, too. Was that? Gina. She was in Fast and Furious 6. Wow. Yeah, they were both in it. She's been in Star Wars shows as well. Damanet the fourth just happened. Yes, she was. Deadpool.

1:56:41Pat McAfee:Hey, shout out to Gina signing up to do this shit again, too. Yeah. That was my big question for Rhonda. And then as she was kind of laying it out, she was like, it kind of fits into my life and I actually need this, it seems like. I'm like, good for you. I'm happy to hear that. Because there's a lot of people that sign up for things and then it's like, oh, I forgot what this is. This is. A lot of work. A lot of work. Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah. I was at that thing yesterday, New York. Dancing with Stars people were there. Robert Irwin was there. They just got off tour. They did a whole thing.

1:57:10Pat McAfee:Irwin. Your guy? Irwin. Alfonso. Alfonso. Alfonso. Oh, he's great. Legend. He was there as well. Julianne Hough was there. Derek Hough was there. Derek. Yeah. They're all – it was unbelievable. American Horror Story here. Fucking Dancing with Stars over here. Fucking The View right here. You said Lohan was there, right? Lindsay – Lohan. The View? Was Lady Gaga? I believe. Big room, a lot of people. Was Marvel there? Yeah. Super heroes? Tom, Tim, Tom. Holland? Hiddleston? Yeah. No way. Walked right by him. He's the man. He was the man. And the aura was super. I bet. Oh, yeah. He's an English supervillain.

1:57:54Pat McAfee:Yeah. One, two. I'm not used to these types of things, though, whenever these super celebrity people are at this thing. So there's a thing. There's an after thing. Then there's an after after thing. That's where you got to be careful. Yeah, the third one. The after after. No, I think it was a part of the thing. Like, hey, you go here next. This is this long. Then there's an exit for all of us. And then we go to this thing, which is the actual thing. That was kind of the thing. Okay? So we do that entire thing. We get over to that particular place, and it was just like, this is outrageous we're not supposed to be.

1:58:28Pat McAfee:And me and Bruce definitely thought we were not supposed to be in the room. Definitely not. But we're having massive conversations. I mean, Josh DiMauro, new head of Disney there. His boy, Alex, he's there with his friend chatting with these people. Then he turned around. Oh, Jimmy Pitaro, obviously good to catch up. Me, Jimmy, Burke, and Josh DiMauro in a diamond formation. It's like, wow, this is an absurd situation. Head of Disney? Yeah. Does he like sports? Loves sports. Okay, that's good. Dungeons like sports. Love sports. Bob Iger likes sports. Kids love sports. Bob understood sports and liked sports.

1:59:06Pat McAfee:Josh Tomorrow is a sports guy. That is a suit. Opened up his entire thing. This is his first time speaking at Disney Upfronts. Celtics die hard. Patriots die hard. Hell yeah. Talked about the playoffs. Obviously on ESPN. Hammered Knicks. We're in New York. Talked about it. It sucks that the Knicks. Basically said, like, hate that the Knicks. Knicks suck, yeah. He's opening this his first time. I hear him saying it. I'm like, all right. Yes, I like what we're doing here. I like that this guy's super suit, because that's that role. The head of Disney is Bob Iger was the Bobfather. I believe he is deemed the super suit in the suit world.

1:59:43Pat McAfee:He is the one. So the Disney job is a massive suit job. That is a tiers of suits. The Disney job is and has been the suit. And he is a sport. You can tell he has grew up as a sports fan in that role. I think that's a big deal. I think that's a very big deal. Yes, I think so too. And if I didn't get a chance to chat with him and talk to him and his kid, his boy, massive, you can tell his kid, massive diehard fan. So it's like, oh, this is actually, you know, like this is a real thing. So that was fun. Julian Hough walks over because I guess she had a conversation. It was like interesting because there's a lot of conversations.

2:00:17Pat McAfee:There's a lot of working. Yeah. A lot of working happening too. You know, as you're watching it all kind of unfold, I was just having a good time and having conversations. Yeah, so I'm working. But Julian Hough comes over. Oh, nice to see you, Julian. She starts talking. I'm like, oh, this is my time out or whatever. I go, the Huff family is monsters, I think was the word, beasts, something, I forget the word. And I said, Dance with the Stars, what year is this? They were like 30-something. I'm like, holy shit. And then she goes, I heard you were going to be on it. And I said, that's awesome. I said, good luck, guys.

2:00:48Pat McAfee:Walked out, okay? We just talked about signing up for all that work. I've heard from everybody that has been on Dance with the Stars that that is you are signing up for potentially. Fight camp. If it works out well, you are signing out for a fight kick. Eight hours a day dancing. Yeah, but your feet, too, are getting crammed in. And mentally, you've got to – and you can't let down the other – it's a team thing. It's like I've heard – Then you've got to perform live on national television and dancing, something that is so foreign to most people. Yeah, it would be really tough. For so many – yeah.

2:01:19Some people go and lose 30 pounds when they go on there.

2:01:23Pat McAfee:I heard you were doing it. That'll be fun. You'll be good on – That'd be sick. Yeah, let's go. how good you'll be. You can dance. This season? Let's get to our break, boys. We'll be back. And do it. What year? This season? That's one of those things. With the boots? Listen, if they're going to let me two-step, I'll do it. If it's electric slide with an extra kick, Kurt Warner was there with his bride, by the way, speaking of. Nice. Talked about Copperhead Road hitting the dance floor. Need to get out there. Is that how to do some dancing with the Warners? Okay? Her hair, fucking perfect. You know, Mrs.

2:01:54Pat McAfee:Warner has sick hair. Unbelievable. But the entire time, all I did was just walk over and tell, hey, when are you guys walking? You ready? When are we doing the thing? When are we doing the thing? Yeah. And I said, Copperhead Road, electric slide with an extra kick, right? And Kurt goes, ooh. And then she goes, absolutely not. There's no, you're not whatever this is called, where you're crossing the legs in electric. Yeah, a box there. There's none of that in Copperhead Road. And I was like, all right, okay. Okay, I almost caused a little thing. I was happy to do that. But, yeah, yesterday was incredible.

2:02:23Pat McAfee:Let's take a break. On the other side, we've got to cover our own sports stories. Enough talking about me and Mickey Mouse House. I'm going to see Lane Kiffin's relationship. I met Precious. What? I met Precious. The actress? The room? Gabrielle. Miss Gabby? Gabby. Miss Gabby. Nailed it. Nailed it. I met Miss Gabby. I was the one scanning room. Holy shit. That's Precious right over there. Got a chance to meet her. We had a great time. Yep. It's Miss Kimberly Martin. Christine. monica mcnutt jess sims and miss gabby it's a good crew having a good time i was told by the crew that i needed to turn on the flashlight and i was being an asshole thinking that i could i didn't know what they meant by that but it felt like they all that everybody that was sitting at that table certainly had remarks to me about how the photo was being taken just now it was an honor to be there and they were a great time this was a great crew right here this was a great after or the after after this is after after so there's look you see the boost like everybody kind of has their own little spot yeah yeah you know and then on the other side over here there was like a like a standing area we were doing a lot of standing area because we don't confine ourselves to a booth you sit down in a booth somebody slides in one side you're kind of trapped you you have no idea where you're gonna head to you said bruce was holding court with all the suits at his booth bruce actually from my understanding while i was involved in a conversation that did have some importance with john leguizamo about the movie the pest wow i was told i like to party with my pants cruise the street i started singing the song to him i think he was impressed that i knew the words or freaked out one or the other i heard bruce delivered a master class with some suits of course the other side of the room yep that is my that is from one suit to me unasked for.

2:04:17Pat McAfee:You should have seen Bruce. He hit a suit home run earlier with some movers and shakers in the suit world. Good boy, Bruce. Bruce had that full suit on. The fucking hair was flowing. He was pointing us through the subway. He was right there. After, after? Bruce still holding court? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't say I was holding court, but it was great to meet everybody. Crazy rooms to be in, really just an awesome day. Robert Irwin, he lights up any room Ewoks. That guy, Radio Row Hall Famer, obviously, but he is just a rock star. Yeah, he was awesome. You could feel him when he walked into a room because huge schmall.

2:04:55Pat McAfee:Always happy. Huge schmall, and then there is like a glow around him. Ah! Aussies. But we went to that after one. Okay. Hey, here's cars, more SUVs than I've ever seen. A thousand of them underneath this thing, okay? And Bruce left my sunglasses in one of the the suvs there's 400 of them the most you've ever seen in your life there's 400 black every escalade in new york was underneath this job at center okay driving everybody around the driver just accidentally blurbs you'll be you'll be riding in this one on the way out and bruce like perfect and he takes his sunglasses and my sunglasses that he was holding on to in his suit jacket i did not have one puts them in the car in the suv and then we just leave no and he goes it fell out of my pocket it felt like a sauna put it back in there we're gonna be back you think we're gonna get the same fucking issue there's 400 of them here you think we're and turns out guess what yeah we did not that was number 109 we got into like 247 or something like that but it did become like uh hey where you going you're going over there everybody kind of gets in in car we had no idea where we're going i had no fucking clue where we were headed i'm sitting in the back of this thing just riding that's fun and then we get to a call mr bakova we get to some facetime action bronson that's exactly right in the middle of that thing because i was just in the back started smoking in there the driver was not happy about that i was on the way back i didn't know if the smoke was going to get up there i thought i was in the smoking section that's what i said he was not happy he was trying to kick me out of the car i was way too far in the back we pull up though and we get into a line fucking humans it's a it's a red carpet with humans that we were going into this event.

2:06:32Pat McAfee:I said, absolutely not. Copped out. Got out of the side. I said, I'm not fucking walking through this. Is there a side door? Nope. So instead, I had to walk next to the crowd to get to the crowd, to walk through the crowd. And obviously, as soon as Robert Irwin gets out of the SUV behind us, Robert Irwin, it was, yeah, we just snuck right in there. Perfect. It was a, I'll tell you, it was a, it was a unique day. And I've never really done a lot of those things. that people are all very good to us, and we're grateful for that. Let's take a break. On the other side, we've got to wrap up all the sports news and stop talking about that.

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2:08:28Pat McAfee:Sports! That's A.J. Hawk. A.J., I hope you're ready. It's contentious. What's happening? I'm sorry. That's what I'm saying. You better buckle that chin a little bit tighter. I will. Okay? I will. I'll put my cup on. Let me put my cup on. Triple X like Gilbert. Mm-hmm. Domp, domp, domp, domp, domp, domp, domp. Put your flak jacket on. Toxic tables here at Boston Corner, and man's ready to go. One half of the hammer. Died. Cowboys AP 10. We're not there yet. Tone's not happy. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Tone's not happy. He's not. Ladies and gentlemen, the international schedule for the NFL's 2026 season has officially been released.

2:09:09Pat McAfee:Start in Australia. That's a lot of games. Start in Australia. Then we take a trip through Rio. Then London town for a few weeks. Then we head over to Paris. How about Madrid, Munich, and Mexico City? All before week 12 begins. we take a global tour of the game. And Australia is far. If it's able to work there, that means anywhere will be possible. Maybe even, fuck it, Fiji. You have no idea where a game. Tokyo Dome, brother. Could be anywhere. Could be absolutely anywhere. There's a team, obviously, it's traveling twice internationally. It's the San Francisco 49ers. Their mileage this year is 26 ,000 or something like that.

2:09:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, here it is. Sorry, 38 ,000 miles. more than the Panthers, Browns, and Bears combined. Yeah, that's a lot of traveling. Now, where they're based, they're going to be doing a lot of traveling anyways. Obviously, if you're on any of the coasts with the way the NFL is now, you're going to be traveling with inter-division, inter-conference stuff that's going to take place. But when you're playing in Australia, obviously, that's going to add some miles. That's going to add some miles. And then whenever you also got Mexico City, by the way, that's going to add some miles. But that might be closer than a game that they could potentially have on the East Coast.

2:10:22Pat McAfee:Nonetheless, a lot of traveling. The international games have been announced. AJ, we're quickly understanding that the future of the NFL is every team is going to have an international game. And there is going to be one every single week. And we might even see with the development of playing technology, if the Concord, was that the name of it? The Concord? Jim Irsay, rest in peace. Legend. Rest in peace. Jim Irsay was an owner for a long time. And any time he'd come on our show, he'd just kind of have shit spill out of his mouth that was like pretty big news from the history of the NFL. The NFL was banking, and I assume they weren't the only one, on the Concord plane that was hypersonic or whatever the fuck it was that would be able to get from New York to London in like four hours or something.

2:11:11Pat McAfee:I forget what the time was. Maybe three hours. I forget what it was. The NFL at that point, from the way Jim talked to us about it, It was like the NFL was going to be putting a team in London. If the Concord plane would have worked out, that would have brought Europe and America closer, quicker, and the NFL certainly would have seized the opportunity and put a team in London. Instead, it became the London games over there. Jacksonville Jaguars, obviously, because Khan owns the soccer team over there, they kind of became it. Now it's multiple countries, multiple different continents, and they're trying to go everywhere.

2:11:40Pat McAfee:How do you feel about it, AJ? And what is your first thoughts whenever you see the schedule get released about how many games are going to be overseas or in other countries? Do you think it's great for the game, bad for the game? Oh, I think it's great for the game. Obviously, it's a global situation. We know the NFL is, and it's only going to continue to happen more and more. I mean, the first thing I thought of was, yeah, I would imagine Tone and the rest of Steeler Nation would be very excited to go to Paris, France. That seems like a very fit-forged type place. AJ, you want to start the war now?

2:12:07Pat McAfee:Let's do it. I wanted you to get your take in on it, you know, so you can maybe provide your thoughts. I love the global expansion of the game. Hey, we got soccer happening over here all the time. That's kind of the world sport. We got our sport. I love that other places are getting introduced to the greatest sport on Earth. I love the flag football is coming along at the right time. So these guys in these other countries and girls in these other countries don't have to have pads and helmets and access to these things that they might not have in some of these places. All they've got to have is football, a couple flags, a couple belts.

2:12:35Pat McAfee:They'll be able to play the greatest game on Earth. And within no time, when you're talking about the Olympics, maybe we'll be able to have actual tackle football because of the growth of the game. Saw the basketball world obviously grow with the dream team. They go overseas, grow the entire game. Now there's a massive Europe influx into the NBA. That could happen in the NFL. And when you can't grow anymore in America, which I don't know if the NFL is at that, feels like they're getting close. No. The numbers are absurd. I mean, the amount of people that are watching the NFL in America is absurd.

2:13:08Pat McAfee:How many people watch the Super Bowl? All of them. 100 and what? 40, 20 or something? It's 300 million people in the U.S. of A. Okay? We can triple in the United States of America. Okay? That's something we can do. And to borrow, you know, a little French, au contraire, mon frere. Au contraire. Yeah, that's what I said. No, the Ingers are pissed, AJ. They don't want to go to France. Okay? They don't want to go to Pepe Le Pew's town. Where do they want to go then? They want to go to New Orleans. Okay? They want to party on Bourbon Street. That's French enough. Okay? That is very French. That is a real thing.

2:13:43They actually are very, very mad that it's in France and not Bourbon Street because, you know, these teams, they look at their schedule. And New Orleans is a destination city. Like, when you look at the schedule, like, hey, we're Steelers fans. We never play the NFC. We want to go to New Orleans. We want to see a game in New Orleans. Whatever. So now they're going to France. There's nine. What is there, nine international games? How long until there's nine American games? Okay? How long until the entire season is played internationally and then we only have nine games? This isn't some, to borrow words from J.J.

2:14:10Watt, some traveling circus. The NFL is not a gimmick, and with all due respect to Savannah Banners, this is how the NFL is starting to turn into with these internationals. Yeah! They are treating the bananas into this.

2:14:21Pat McAfee:Jesse Cole is hitting dingers in football stadiums. Riley Green sings his fucking ass up the foot. He's treating the NFL like it's some gimmick. The game wasn't built on the backs of international people. It was built on the backs of Americans. Okay. That's a tough road to walk. This is an American sport. It's an American pastime, and we're ruining it by traveling. And, you know, they don't even care. They're there because it's an event, okay? Do some other event over there. Have the Olympics over there, whatever the fuck you want to do over there. It's football, baby. Football is meant to be played in America, on American great iron, on American grass, or turf, depending on whatever the players' association gets done this year.

2:15:04Turf. But I just –

2:15:05Pat McAfee:No, they don't like the turf. Yeah. They also don't like the soccer grass, though. I've heard that. Exactly. Owners don't care. Owners would rather pay to put it in and take it out than to leave it in for a whole year. Players in bad health positions. What happened to health and safety? What's that? Every time we go and play on one of these fields, it's slippery as shit. Everyone's getting hurt. It is slippy over here. Very slippy. Went down in Brazil and Pat Mahomes almost tore his knee open. Jordan Love did. Jordan Love did. I'm not agreeing with him. Yeah, just to his point. Thank you. I mean, it's just when pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.

2:15:41You ever hear that one, Rog? Okay. Now we're playing Wednesday through Monday. Nothing's sacred anymore in this goddamn country, this sport. This is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's not even a sports argument anymore for Tone.

2:15:54Pat McAfee:No, yeah, Tone certainly found a way to get his other shit in, if you will. But he's not the only one that feels this way. You know, and I think the Yinsers, they show up, whatever, 800 ,000 at the draft. You know? It's like, hey, we fucking all in on football. We are the football town. If the draft goes international, I'm fucking done. Oh. That'd be safe. I really hope the draft goes international. That will happen. I'm saying no way. They got to go to actual football towns with the draft. They know that. You got to go to actual football towns to play football. It's a showcase of our sport, of our league.

2:16:27Pat McAfee:It is a showcase. What about the troops overseas that want to watch ball? Then we should do it on an Air Force base or a military base, okay? That'd be cool. Playing a carrier. Bingo. It's not your home game. You had your home game in Ireland last year. That's not the point, see? It's not even that. Did you say this about Ireland last year? Yes. They take you to Ireland. They're taking you to France. I mean, what are they doing to you? Are they trying to make you explore maybe a little bit? Are you not Christopher Columbus? They're trying to make me weak. What's that? All those countries. Ireland ain't weak.

2:16:55Don't even get me started on Germany. Okay, I guess we just forgot about what happened there. We're just going to give them three or four games.

2:17:01Pat McAfee:I mean, Germany has certainly made up, I think, in the world society. I can't believe France hasn't withdrawn from this game yet. See, okay. So what year is this? Just so I know. I don't forget. It's 2020. These colors don't run, brother. These colors don't run, brother. You were alive? Huh? My grandfather was. He served. He was on the beaches in Normandy. Rest in peace to John. Grassi. Yeah. Great coach. There's a game in Italy, right? There's going to be a game in Italy. How do you feel about that? How do you feel with tone? If there's a game in Italy, how would you feel about that? As long as they don't use meatballs as the football.

2:17:39Pat McAfee:But if there was a game in Italy, what would the tune that you'd be singing? I wouldn't like it. Because it's the Browns. I wouldn't like it. EPL, international soccer, they don't even play regular season games in the U.S. That's the world's game. It ain't. What? So you want us to be more like soccer? In this circumstance. Say that. Will you please say that? In this circumstance, yeah. Will you say it, though? I would like European soccer. That's their sport, and they keep it to themselves. I would like the United States Football League to do the same. UFL? Yeah. No, the NFL. Oh, okay. You would like us to keep our game to ourselves?

2:18:21Pat McAfee:No international games at all? Zero. Wow. Zero. Yeah, I don't think they're going to listen to you, Tone. Well, no shit. I think we've passed that. I just love the lack of reality that you can find yourself in. How many years have they been doing an international game? 30 years? 30 years? It's been a long time they've been taking games. That's how long they've been trying to ruin this game? Jeez Louise. That's awesome. Super Bowl in another country would be cool. That whole Champions League thing you just brought up. They've done the Champions League in Miami. Did you just say Super Bowl in another country?

2:18:55The Super Bowl. What is happening? Think about it. That was probably last time. Think about it. Fans of the teams don't even go. We talk about this every year at the Super Bowl. Fans of the teams don't even go. No, not as many. Typically, it's a corporate fan. Super Corpo.

2:19:09Pat McAfee:Super Corpo. It's all people that have bought Super Bowl tickets ahead of time. Who can afford them normally? Companies can. Tickets to the Super Bowl. Let's hope our team gets there. A lot of people doing that. So there's not as many teams fans. Exactly. On that note, you want a bonjour to the Super Bowl? I did not say France. Okay. Let's see everybody. French fries. Talk about this. I did not say France. But, like, Ireland, for instance. Okay. If they went there, you could throw Italy in there. If they didn't like in some cool area. Super Bowl's got to be here. Got to be here. In a football city in one of these new, beautiful stadiums.

2:19:48Some nice weather. When's the playoffs? Same time. All the new, beautiful stadiums aren't football cities, though. Like, Vegas and L.A. Those aren't. It's a football town. I guess we can do that, but they are. Nope.

2:20:02Pat McAfee:Apparently Paris is more of a football town. Than New Orleans, I guess. Apparently. I appreciate their growing the game. And, you know, I think it's good for the future of the game. It's hard to live in a moment that is being prepared for the future. I think that's kind of across the board. Anything that is preparing for the future, the moment is always going to suck, especially for the generation that has to go through it. Yeah. And Yenzers are certainly not happy about what's going on right now. But what if tackle football ends up in the Olympics? Would that not be sick? Yeah. I don't care. Other countries don't really play football as of yet.

2:20:35Olympic gold? I don't care about the Olympics. I care about the NFL. Okay. I mean, Tone, you know what? Tone, the more he talked, the more I'm starting to be on his side.

2:20:45Pat McAfee:The Super Bowl one, I immediately, same way as Connor thinks, like that's not really like diehard fans. A lot of diehard fans can't get into the Super Bowl. and also it's a lot of pre-bought tickets, so it's usually a pre-bought. Well, all the greedy corporate fat guys price them out. Exactly. Yeah, kind of what Tom was talking about, too. So if you put the one Super Bowl game somewhere else and then all of the other games, the National Football League regular season games back home in America. Are they going to start calling it the IFL, huh? I don't know. Is it going to be the international football league?

2:21:17All I'm saying is it's a slippery slope, my friends. And to tackle football in the Olympics, that would only set us up for failure. What? We either win gold or if anything negative happens, it's the worst. How do we even lose?

2:21:31Pat McAfee:There's no way any of the American lads will ever lose. This is 30 years from now. Great. In 2196, we're going to have that redeemed team. We are. All right. Let's talk. Hey, way to go, other countries. Thank you for embracing our sport. Great game. 21-96, redeem team USA football. That's a harsh reality to live in. Yeah, it certainly is. Bones' son is out there. Okay. Treader, the new head of the NFLPA, not just the head player of the NFLPA, the head of the NFLPA, obviously speaking about the grass that is entering every NFL stadium that has a turf field that is hosting a World Cup game. so the natural and easy thing to say to all these nfl teams is you'll do it for fucking soccer but you won't do it for us we had a whole hashtag a whole movement about getting the grass you guys stood firm and no can't do it can't do it won't do it and then the world cup comes to town and you got a couple five foot four guys that want to flop around on grass and won't play you'll do that for them but not for us that has always been the player's position in this entirety since soccer has come over to the stadium.

2:22:42Pat McAfee:J.J. Watt, soccer owner and also very much pro player guy, like maybe the loudest, the most pro player guy in the history. He said that the soccer grass that they put on these stadiums, ass, like this isn't good either. This would not be good for NFL players as well because I think it's slippy, you know, heavy physical contact, a lot of torque on this grass, a lot of push. I guess soccer field is not built for that. That soccer grass is obviously different. It's a little lighter. It's a little softer. It's meant for running, not so much of like pushing and all that stuff. So the grass that's going into these stadiums is nowhere near what football grass would inevitably have to be anyways.

2:23:22Pat McAfee:So there's always a constant deflection by the NFL. As soon as the players say this about the World Cup soccer grass, the NFL goes like, you want that grass? If we were to put that grass in every single stadium, your guys' argument would look terrible because it would be the worst that we have. So it seemingly has been one of these. J.C. Tretter, though, is continuing to push for it. Do you think inevitably we end up in a time where there's all grass fields in all of our stadiums? I mean, what do you do for those places that are permanent domes? It's not retractable. Walking outside like they do in Arizona.

2:23:53Yeah, I mean, you have to retrofit some stadiums, I would imagine. Yeah, I think eventually we could get there. We definitely could get there, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

2:24:02Pat McAfee:Well, I have a friend who's grown some stuff behind a false wall in a closet in college. And he dropped down these lights that he was able to put down in there. And NFL stadiums just had. The Packers have those lights they put on starting in October where they roll across the field all night. My guy could grow. So I think they could get this grass to be. They got tents on Amazon to have everything set up where you could grow all the stuff you need right there. People are growing marijuana off of Amazon tents. What's that? Oh, yeah. No, no, finish this. I was going to say, did you guys as players, like, did you always want Chris?

2:24:42Pat McAfee:Okay, so I will speak first and quick because these two guys, certainly much more particular in this conversation to be listened to. For me, hardest turf possible. Give me some meant. Okay, go ahead, AJ. Yeah, the opposite of what Pat said, I would think, is what I would say. It was always a thing where guys never wanted to practice on turf because you practice on turf multiple days in a row. It is true. Like, I don't know when the field turf came out, but when field turf first, like, was invented, it was made to wear, like, nubs, like little soccer shoes. It wasn't made to wear cleats and dig in.

2:25:15That's the thing. Like, when cleats dig into field turf and it torques, your cleats stay in, and then something's got to give, and the turf is not going to give. You're going to get stuck in the turf, and boom, we see injuries, and they can say whatever they want. They're all, the numbers aren't up in turf. You don't get hurt more. Yeah, you do. You definitely get hurt more on turf when you wear cleats, when you're playing professional football, I believe. But I would want grass as much as I can. But also, I'm realistic, and I know it's probably not going to happen.

2:25:40Pat McAfee:You were talking about AstroTurf to begin there, and then SportTurf came in. No, I'm talking FieldTurf. I'm talking FieldTurf was meant to wear, like, nubs on it. With the rubber Cadillacs. Really? Yeah, wear your Cadillacs. Yeah. Oh, because I thought you were talking about the original AstroTurf, which was cement with green carpeting. That was safer. That was safer than FieldTurf when it came to, like, tearing your ACL and things like that because you didn't get stuck in old-school turf like that because you're not wearing cleats. You just get burnt everywhere. Oh, and you get, yeah, you can fall and dong your head off of there and, you know, you don't know your name the rest of your life.

2:26:11Yeah, forever.

2:26:12Pat McAfee:Just a couple of those, too. Maybe don't walk. The onside kicks on those things. Oh, yeah. You're hitting that. There was no, there was nothing. It's like a trampoline. You're straight off the concrete. It's like, man, that's why I picked the concrete. AJ obviously had to run for a living and hit people and engage with people and torque and twist with people for a living, which is much more like D-butt, obviously, corner and secondary have to be very explosive, a lot of change of motion. I would be intrigued to hear what you would like. Would you like grass? I'm the same. With practice, grass as much as possible.

2:26:45Now, when it gets cold outside and that grass basically turns into rock, I wouldn't mind a little turf. Game day, I don't really care. It's really an opponent. Like, whatever the opponent would prefer, I would prefer the ops. So, if we're playing Tyreek Hill, I would not want to be on the fastest surface possible. But game day, I didn't really care. As long as it was just decent. I remember Houston back in the day, they would have the turf, but it would have lines and shit. Like Wes Walker tore his ACL last game of the season. I think my rookie year, I'm just running on that turf. So as long as there's some good, whether it's grass, super grass, turf, whatever, I don't care on game day.

2:27:21But practice, give me grass as much as possible.

2:27:23Pat McAfee:That Houston turf got a few. Yeah. Because they were putting the strips in. They even got big seams you can see running through there. Yeah. I think they had a punter kickoff guy named Brett. I forget his last name. He hit kickoffs like 95. I've never seen anything like that. He got drafted to be a kickoff specialist, basically, this guy. He would kick him 100 yards if he could. I've never been more impressed with somebody's leg after watching him at a summer camp. He got drafted. He ends up at the Texans. He whole leg on a seam. Damn. Brett Hartman? Yeah, there it is. Yeah, Brett Hartman. What did he do with his – something happened with him on a seam, right?

2:27:57I'll look it up.

2:27:58Pat McAfee:This guy right here. This guy could kick a football 150 fucking yards. I've never seen anything like it. It was. I thought he was a donkey. He's just got a fucking move. Yeah, his foot caught in a seam and tore his ACL. And fractured his fibula. Yeah. Covering a kick? While covering a kick or something? Yeah, I think so. And nobody really, I don't think a lot of people knew of this man's existence as NFL fans. You know what I mean? But, like, he comes to the AFC South. I'd seen him in summer camps doing shit. And I'm like, holy hell, I'm excited to watch this guy, like, in real life again. and then it all ended quickly.

2:28:30Pat McAfee:And then I think there was even some loss. Yeah, he sued the stadium owner. Yeah, and that would be considered grass though, right? So that would go into the stats of grass. Yeah. There was a seam in the turf at Reliant Stadium. Oh, no, it was turf. Well, was it turf or they just called grass turf? Yeah, interesting. Well, Reliant was inside, right? No, Reliant had grass for a while. Yeah, and they did have grass. I think it was grass. I'm pretty sure it was grass. it's crazy i'm thinking it was grass because grass would be what they would be putting patches down of right they wouldn't just be putting patches of turf down in an nfl game yeah they had grass from 2002 to 2014 and this happened um this happened 2011 so yeah it was okay yeah west 2009 right before the aj i didn't like how you said they can tell me the stats and analytics It hurts more.

2:29:23Pat McAfee:That's what you said. Because remember, we had Dr. Sills. Dr. Allen. Allen Sills. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of his. Me too. He'll sit in the pocket, answer whatever. He is the chief medical officer for the NFL. He said we have this robots scanning fields throughout the season to tell us which turf is better at what time of year. And it turns out sometimes a year, some turf is actually better than other turf whenever it comes to injuries. Some of the sport turf, newer innovations of sport turf, actually like 4X some of the grass that was being used. They say there's conflicting data. There's conflicting data because obviously there's different weathers from the beginning to the end.

2:30:05Pat McAfee:But I think every player that's ever come out and said anything other than kickers and punters is like. You're supposed to slip sometimes. Like if you have a 900-pound two guys leaning on you and your foot's in the ground, it's supposed to chunk up and fall down and you're supposed to be on the ground instead of your whole body and your foot stays in the ground and then your leg just collapses. They'll get figured out. Yeah. I'm sure it will. I mean, it can just be realistic. Rog can say, hey, man, like, it's not very realistic to say we're all going to switch to grass all of a sudden. Like, he could say that.

2:30:34Pat McAfee:Rog can say, hey, listen, I hear you, okay? I'll bring everyone of you into the room to go talk to all these owners and tell them they need to put in the super dress, okay? I'm trying. But they all have their own individual conflicting stats about why they're not doing it, okay? So you guys need to give me answers for me to go in there to answer all of them. Because they got robots. Now they got AI working on this thing. And they don't want to change the shit. So what's that stadium overseas that we saw? Tottenham Hotspurs. Real does as well, Madrid. Those stadiums. That's not as great as everyone says, though.

2:31:07I've heard the grass isn't like there's seams in that grass.

2:31:09Pat McAfee:So the seams in that grass also built for soccer grass. So like soccer grass not built for 600 pounds of people. Engaged contact. Yeah, like being engaged. Think of like a three technique, take on a double team. Like that's a lot more stress on the grass than soccer players running around and possibly falling down a ton. And I think that's what JJ was referring to whenever he said, like whenever the soccer games come over and they put the soccer grass on top of the football stadium, it's like, that's not, well, that's not. And that becomes the argument for the players all the time. It's like, hey, you'll put grass in for them.

2:31:40Pat McAfee:And then the NFL just goes, you idiots. Is this, you know, it's always something. It's always something. But I like the treaders getting after it. Let's move to racing. the pinnacle. Talking F1? No. Talking NASCAR? Yes. Okay. And? IndyCar. Yes. Boys, what month is it? It's May. May. Yeah, there's checkered flags all around Mike. Yeah, absolutely. One of my neighbors painted a checkered flag into his entire front hill. Of course. Like that. Unbelievable work. I'm worried about the rain, what happens if it comes, but it's not. It hasn't, and it looks spectacular. I appreciate that. Catherine Legg will attempt the Indy 500 and Coca-Cola 600 double on May 24th, becoming only the sixth driver ever to take on the 1100-mile challenge.

2:32:31Pat McAfee:Notables in the past that have done this, Kurt Busch, also... Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson did it last year or two years ago. Tony Stewart? Yes, Stewart's done it. Smoke's done it. This is a very difficult thing. Obviously, the Indy 500 is here in Indianapolis. You're in front of$300 ,000,$400 ,000. I think it's sold out this year, actually. Yeah, already sold out. They sold it out, so that's probably going to be 400 ,000 people, 450 ,000 people here in the fastest cars on Earth racing and the most exhilarating racing that there is on the entire planet Earth. In the country, I agree. Planet Earth.

2:33:23only race that can go four wide we know that for sure yeah or will go four wide because their

2:33:28Pat McAfee:drivers are actually racing that's any 500 katherine will attempt to go from the any 500 which is grueling gonna lose so much weight so much sweat it's hot as shit in there and Obviously, then she'll hop on a helicopter to get to an airplane, which will fly down to Charlotte, which will hop on a helicopter, which will get into another car, race Coca-Cola 600. That's 1 ,100 miles. You start doing the math. And all we'd like to do is wish Catherine Legg good luck. The drivers have not fared well doing this. Maybe she changes it all. Good luck out there. Go get them, Catherine. That's a lot of racing.

2:34:03Pat McAfee:A lot of racing. Hopefully no delays. That's the thing that hurt Cal Larson. Last year. Weather. Yeah. Rain delay. The year before, too. They're in a holding pattern. They didn't like that. Need to get the plane done. I'm racing. Yeah. They're like, well, you can't. It's raining. Pretty good. Well, how are they racing then? Well, it's actually outside of the race. You can't get to the race. Correct. That's the difference. And then somebody else was driving. And then he subbed in, right? Yes. Yeah, he tapped in. And he's a driver. Oh, he's a driver. One of the best, they said. One of the best. That makes me think about the PGA Championship.

2:34:36Pat McAfee:chip yes it does Michael blocky he's doing it you like like oh shit he's there or he's gonna win it here's him from a t-box I need a big cheer oh you guys see that you guys see that little uh electrical pull in the background you see that thing that's my target no pressure it's in Philadelphia like John's saying oh I like it that's where I'd aim too

2:35:09Pat McAfee:Hi, Block Reich. I think it's in the fairway, though, boy. Thank you. Oh, thanks. Mm-mm. Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. Whoa! No, you got to do the same thing for him, though, Harold. Okay, Block, he's having fun out there. Look how comfortable this guy is. Who's his playing partner? If I was his playing partner, I'd say, sorry, Block, keep me out of your shenanigans. What? Thursday. Don't rope me into this. Thursday and Friday, DJ. So, yeah, DJ is part of DJ's live punishment as he has to play with Blocky. Oh, what are we talking about? Don't do Blocky. What are we talking about? Blocky's having fun.

2:35:52Pat McAfee:Blocky. And Rasmus. Rasmus. Dustin Johnson. Blocky's in his 10th major. Now, I will say this. Whoever that golfer was that was with Blocky, getting thrown into his, as AJ would describe it, shenanigans. I don't necessarily love. I do appreciate the fact, though, that we're at the stage of Blocky golfing where he's about to play in a massive tournament, and he's talking shit, having a good time, talking to the Johns. You see this? That's what I'm aiming at. Oh, still got the fairway, boys. Still got the fairway. And then the guys that have played that course a few times before go, I don't think so, buddy.

2:36:27Pat McAfee:That ends up in the sand trap. He gets booed and walks it off. I like what Blocky's up to. No, you don't. I like what Blocky's up to. You know the fuck you don't. I love you. You do not. I wish. You do not. And I'm so happy for Ty and the family. I wish Ty was here right now to just go with his epic rinse. But that's why. That is why. What do you mean? People hate blocks. What happened? What did he do? I'm missing it. I don't get it. He's engaging with the crowd trying to have a good time. I don't get it. You cannot call out that you hit the ball in a fairway when you're a professional golfer and you know where every ball is going to land.

2:37:04Pat McAfee:He is. If you say fairway and it goes in the bunker, that's a dickhead move. You cannot do that when you're a pro. Blocky, man. It's a PGA Troll Pro. I don't even do that. What, are we going to trust? Are we going to trust the guy who's tweeting on the internet that's not real, or are we going to trust the guy who striped the fucking ball and said, oh, still in the fairway, bitch? I think I'm going to trust Blocky. Yeah, you're right. I believe him. Hey, listen. Blocky is living a life that I don't think he could have expected. No way. I think he probably gave it up at one point, so that's probably way behind me.

2:37:32I love that part of it. He expected much.

2:37:35Pat McAfee:And then he gets in there and starts doing it. He's like, you know what? Bucky's kind of hot right now. You know? I think he'd go to the ESPYs, do it all, go back to the course, give some lessons, hit some more hole-in-ones, live his life, get another opportunity at it. I like that he's comfortable out there. That whole do the same to him, though, thing. Yeah. That was the only part of the video that made me disgusted. I'm going to say that was the only part of the video where I was like, but maybe that's his best friend. Yeah. We don't know who that is. We have no idea who's playing it now. Maybe that guy said, too, like, hey, Blocky, look.

2:38:08I know you're the big dick out here, but is there any way you could give me just a little bit of rub? When we're, you know, playing, can you maybe tell your fans, because there's so many Blockheads, can you maybe say, like, hey, don't forget to die about my guy?

2:38:21Pat McAfee:And then Blocky says, I got you, dude. I'm going to say it's going to the fairway. I'm going to tell these fuckers this where I'm at. I'll put in a sand. You come up, pipe over the top. Everyone's going to be like, holy fuck, who's the guy? Next to Blocky. Yeah, Blocky's working to you motherfuckers. All of you. You're getting work right now. He's putting over. I'm a Blockhead. I'm a Blockhead. He's not working me. I'm in his corner. Good. Tony Blocky. You should get a ticket for the weekend. Plus$500 ,000. You should get one of those tickets. I'm going to go to that scumbag city? No, I'm good.

2:38:53Thanks. No, no. A ticket on Blocky. Oh, yeah. I already have one of those.

2:38:57Pat McAfee:Philadelphia also, from all accounts that I've heard, this course is incredible. and Philadelphia people over the weekend. I'm excited to see what that leaderboard looks like. I'm excited to see what that crowd looks like. It sounds like. I'm pretty pumped to see Philadelphia on display this weekend. It should be a blast. My suit's getting into town next week. Nice. I got to wear a suit. Flyers are already out. They are. Haven't even got the suit, so that's on me. Governor Josh Shapiro, I'll be putting that thing on. I was at a Super Bowl of suits yesterday. That was a suit Super Bowl. Was there a lot of suits?

2:39:30So many suits. How many people weren't wearing suits?

2:39:35Pat McAfee:Me. Rodrigo. No way. Cooper Flagg did not have on a suit. Okay. Beast. Jalen Brunson did not have on a suit. Okay. So the athletes.

2:39:50Pat McAfee:I think that was me. I think that's the only one. I think if I had – they brought all Super Bowl MVPs. How many of those do we know? Was that all of them? that was everybody that's alive was deon branch there didn't have to be there deon branch was not there hold on edelman no representation was this this was for the espn i'm from so like was tom there because i know he did the fox no tom okay there's steve young jerry emmet desmond no patriots So all – mostly ESPN or non-affiliated. Peyton, Eli, obviously. Who else was upper? There was a – Hines Ward there? Nick Foles, Hines Ward. Old buddy from Seattle, the linebacker.

2:40:39Bobby? Irvin? No, not Bobby. Bobby got picked six. Yeah. KJ Wright? Yes, there you go. Yep.

2:40:47Pat McAfee:It was like 10 wide it looked like. I don't know. Brought out – Desmond was holding the Lombardi. And I guess they were just like, all right, Des, you're going to speak. Okay. Was it showcasing that they have the Super Bowl? Yeah. Roger Goodell came in, did a whole song and dance. That's sweet. Yeah, it was a good little time. They really moved that thing pretty quick. Hey, you got this many minutes. A lot of stuff. You got this many minutes. We're announcing it. It's a huge company. It could get boring in the crowd, I bet. Disney is a pretty big company. Huge company. And Disney owns a lot of other companies that were probably.

2:41:23Well, there was just. I assume there was Hulu stuff. I assume there was. Oh, yeah.

2:41:27Pat McAfee:What was the one Hulu thing that was being showcased over there? Somebody from Hulu. There was some series, TV series. Was it Paradise? Was the kid you said he was Saturday Beers? Yeah, Connor. I think you know him as well. Oh, fucking Will Angus. Yes. And it is. What's her name's new show? Mindy Kaling from Massachusetts. That's how I know she went to my high school. Yes, it is a brand new show about like corporate America. And it's like an office-esque show. So, yeah, the kid from Friday Beers, Will Angus, is like one of the four starring people. I just watched that trailer yesterday. Okay, so they were at bar in front of us, I think.

2:42:00Pat McAfee:I didn't, 100 % on me. I had nobody from internet once told, hey, you remember this guy from internet? Yes. Now he's full-time actual actor, I guess, from being internet skit guy. Bingo, yeah, like for the last four years, I would say. Ice will come up. Yeah, he had a spray tan on. I was like, holy shit, Angus, you really are doing it now. Yeah, Bruce was really in his bag, I'll tell you. Bruce was in his bag. He had a lot of good moments there. Super suit shit, you know. He dropped a congrats on a deal line. Your package, somebody did a package way back in the day. Fucking dropped it. It was really good suit stuff.

2:42:33Pat McAfee:And then obviously the way he was dressed. Not a lot of ties. A lot of business cash. Nah, is that what that's called? No ties, business casual? Yeah, well, business cash could be, you know, the back he's in. No low, too, yeah. Pocket squares? So no tie but pocket square? I didn't see many pocket squares. You could do that. That's way more than business cash. Any bow ties? You said ties are out. We did see bow ties. At Carbone, ZZ's club. Hell yeah. I asked the workers if they tied those bow ties. They didn't even keep gay favorite at all. Just immediately said, nah, we can fucking. Watch this.

2:43:12Pat McAfee:All right, I was like, sweet. Good idea. We would do that. Tom Hiddlestad, did he have a bow tie on? He walked by us. I didn't see his front. I only saw him side. He had suit on there for sure. Yeah, he's a fucking nuke. Bruce, did you say ties are out? Yeah, just like a little bit less popular than I would say they used to be. You're only rocking that if you're like super suit at a bank. Interview. We walked by some banks. Walked by J.P. Morgan. We sure did. Okay. Sick building. Brand new. We saw the NHL offices. Okay. Did we tell you guys that on the show yesterday? No. we walk out of hotel betman selling hot dogs on the street no betman and selling hot dogs did make an appearance though okay so wheat walk so new york a lot of smoke weed but you're not allowed i don't fucking get it what so these cities and states medical or decriminalized it's something it's the line bullshit you're you're allowed to smoke weed and then there are like dispensaries and there was a wild west era where basically every bodega was selling weed and they kind of cracked down on that but there still are i think they're licensed dispensaries in manhattan okay so that's buying the weed where are you guys smoking these legal states where is we're in your house yeah like what what am i it's kind of policed by by you know the the general population you're you're allowed to smoke anywhere you might get shat on by commuters for smoking weed like right outside of the subway stop something like that for instance so i didn't have a balcony in my room okay so i am relying upon the outside of the hotel yeah to be where i can maybe try to fall asleep tonight okay so i can maybe have a day here okay that's what i'm trying to do tight little sidewalk very popular packed sidewalk because subways right up here two feet maybe three feet here on the front of hotel so you like get right out and you're right in the action whoever so i try to find corner try to find corner of thing plate tables everywhere smoke no smoking so i'm like all right i can't do this because everybody can stare at me through the window So I get out into the sidewalk now.

2:45:27Pat McAfee:I start smoking. Nasty looks from everybody. I mean, just absolute scolding from their eyes. Just like, what are you fucking doing, asshole? It's 7.30 or whatever. So we had to go find a spot. There's a little sit-down place around the corner. A little bit of space so we can keep away from each other. Good, comfortable chairs. Beautiful. Right across from the brand new train station, I do believe. Yeah, yeah. The new, it's like an extension of Penn Station. It's pretty sweet. Beautiful. Fucking beautiful. This was a gorgeous part sit down so our smoke is so looking around have a good time turn around fucking NHL offices We're sitting at the NHL offices Behind it so I immediately FaceTime Gary Bettman right so what he's doing he's answering he's on his way in like this place is Glorious because you need to go in go look around.

2:46:12Pat McAfee:You know, I'm gonna have like we got to go somewhere Gary's I'll call you when I get there. We're good. He's so hospitable. They're building nice The NHL's doing good. Oh, yeah. Rolling. The NHL's doing really good. Huge building. All these fucking buildings are so big. Who's in all these things? What is, where are, what is. Good question. Like, the fucking humans. We were the only, it was Armageddon. You know when the cars, one car's driving this way, and everybody else is driving this way? Yeah, Independence Day. There it is, Independence Day. Yeah. We were walking against the stream, I guess, for the morning workers.

2:46:48Pat McAfee:is there 10 million i don't know how many fucking people it was never ending wave of people that we're walking 10 million people yeah pretty much exactly but yeah i mean it's like the sales force tower downtown just times you know there are hundreds of them are they still filled up though because i weren't buildings like not filled up anymore some of them are not some of them struggle yeah some of them midtown like where the nfl offices it felt back back like yeah they're back I didn't know if there was enough fucking buildings for all the people. At one point, all the people were walking, and I, like, started looking around for, like, where the fuck?

2:47:21Pat McAfee:And then you look up. Miles. I guess. 50 floors of. Everybody could probably just fit in this one here. And then you turn around, and it's like, holy fuck. And then every lobby we walked into packed. Packed, yeah. There's fucking people everywhere. I don't. Indy, it feels like the perfect place where people wouldn't go back to, like, their buildings because it felt unnecessary. Like, New York City, those people are always going to fill those buildings. Whereas, like, the Indy skyscrapers. Most companies are making everyone come back. Yeah, we have, like, two blocks of maybe half a block. That's a good call.

2:47:55Pat McAfee:Block. You said it. Michael Block's playing in the PGA Championship. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. And I'm excited to watch him do his thing. I can't wait to watch MT off tomorrow. What time? Do we know what time? Great question. I think he is feature group one. Yeah, I assume they're live streaming the whole thing, wherever. We'll watch it. We'll be back tomorrow. be a friend talking something nice might change your life we're in this thing forever and together 12 10 12 10 tomorrow boom perfect that espn kicks off at noon well i guess it kind of fucks our show because everyone's gonna be watching blocky but oh sorry we saw turning right here yeah all right i know we're gonna be doing tomorrow boom like a lot of us watching yeah i guess long interviews tomorrow maybe we get a lombardi in here yeah michael lombardi Ronald Lombo.

2:48:42Pat McAfee:Ronald Lovsky back. Yeah. Who else will just talk to themselves? Block will be six over after three holes. Fuck you. Fuck you. It's going to be very quick. Let's get Blocky on live while he's playing. Be a friend. Tell him something nice, including Blocky. It might change your life. We're going to sing together. See you tomorrow. You guys are the greatest. Tonight, we got massive, massive. Wild at Avalanche. 8 o 'clock on TNT. Avalanche are up 3-1. They can put this entire thing away in the West. Cavs at Stones. 8 o 'clock on ESPN. And Stones are favored by four and a half. That series is tied 2-2.

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