PMS 2.0 1562 - Feel Good Friday with PK Subban, Quentin Richardson, Brittany McKinney, Shams Charania, Jeff Passan, Adam Schefter, Cody Campbell, & AJ Hawk

22:39Your skilled players have to be able to get inside. And they haven't been able to get inside. They have to use their speed. This is the only thing cliche that you're going to hear out of my mouth because it's the way their team is built. They're built to play through the middle of the ice with pace and with speed. If they're not playing fast, I don't see where they're going in the playoffs. They need to play fast. So to me, I expect them to be on the puck tonight. Not saying that they need to take chances, but they're definitely going to have to make some plays tonight. So I expect to see their skill.

23:11That should be the story for the Montreal Canadiens tonight, is are they able to activate their skill or not? If they're not, this series will be over.

23:18Pat McAfee:Okay, here's some Hembo stats for you that obviously help the story that you were telling right there. The Hurricanes have allowed two or fewer goals in 11 of their first 12 games this postseason, winning them all. Second team to ever do that since 2012 Kings. Okay, so you're talking about taking advantage of opportunities to do that. How about opportunities? You're saying not just shoot. Here's the shots on goal stats, obviously, coming from the Montreal Canadiens. There was next to none of these things, 12, 13, and 18. Obviously, that is a first period for some teams, especially if they're a heavy offensive team.

23:48Pat McAfee:It's just like the Hurricanes are just smothering. Why is this? What is the style of defense in hockey that maybe doesn't get talked about enough that is this type of defense? Like, is every team trying to do this? Is this a style of hockey whenever you're not giving up a lot of shots? Or are they eating pucks? Like, why are the Hurricanes so much better seemingly on defense than others? There's nothing about the Carolina Hurricanes that tells me that they sit on their heels and play defense. They attack. They have come into this series and have attacked the Montreal Canadiens. They've attacked them on the forecheck.

24:23They've attacked them offensively. They've gone after them, special teams. They've come after them wave after wave. It has been a hurricane. I was caught in the middle of the storm last game, and I had nothing to say. It was 3-0 over the first period, and it's all Carolina. You know, they've put the pressure on. Since game one, maybe they had a little bit of rust, but I said it before. Montreal couldn't execute in the early part of the series to put that pressure on Carolina to back them off. Maybe lessen that forecheck. Maybe make them think twice about having that F3 dip in, but they haven't been able to do that.

25:02So Carolina's just gotten more and more aggressive. They've pounded the living crap out of Montreal the past two games. I'm watching this and guys got to be hurting in that locker room. So it's been that type of series. It's a hockey series. And that's an element. You talk about the defense, Pat, but it's playoff hockey. This is big boy hockey. And Montreal, we saw it against Washington when they lost in the playoffs. When Carrier took that hit from Tom Wilson, there's a little bit of that going on right now. Like, there's a physicality to this series that they're going to have to figure out whether they're going to beat with their skill and their discipline or they're going to come out and start hitting Carolina and somehow we're going to see three fights in the first period.

25:46I don't see that happening. So, I think they have to do the first.

25:49Pat McAfee:You got to put your big boy pads on to win the Lord Stanley Cup. Pack a big lunch. You do have to pack a big lunch. And big breakfast. A lot of grit and jamb and no cement in the skates. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. We're following through. Oh, yeah. Got to follow. Nail guns. Yeah, absolutely. No squids. No squids. No nail guns. Got to hit them with your shoulder. Can't hit them with that. You got to hit them with your shoulder. That's how it works. What are you talking about? One of these. The shoulder. Shoulder to shoulder. One of these. Is back of shoulder no good? No. Back of the shoulder is no good.

26:24Pat McAfee:No, no. Hitting the other person. Hitting the other person. We got to be even with them in front of them? Can you hit behind? What is the rules on hitting? I never even like to use my shoulder to hit. For me, you see a lot of guys, they get a lot of shoulder injuries. It's the safest way. If you keep your shoulder in tight, hitting a guy like that is fine. I like to hit with my hip. I always love to hit with my hip. I just love to throw that caboose out there. Bang. Bang. You know what I mean? With the loose hip. Bang. Let's go dancing. Boom. When I dip, you dip. Sometimes I hit him with the back, too.

27:00Pat McAfee:Sure. Oh, like a little pop, a little double, a little bang and a boom. Time to hit him in the back, too. How about that one guy was going for a back check, you remember, and the door was open and he just went and sat around. Yeah, that'll get you when you're trying to go for that hip thing. That's right. When you're trying to do that. Okay, last question about tonight's game. Obviously, it could be incredibly emotional, I think, from the hockey world. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, PK, I guess I don't know what his current relationship is with Montreal or, like, the team, but the whole Claude Giroux situation where he, you know, walked the torch out the other night and then just a couple days later, Claude Lemieux, excuse me, not Giroux, you get it.

27:33But, you know, he had the whole situation. He walks it out, and then a couple days later he passes away. What is it going to be like in there? Like, do you think they might have an extra chip on their shoulder for him, or how is that whole situation going to play out? Yeah, it's a great question. You know what? It's a dose of reality, guys, right, for everyone, right? You go out and you play the game hard, But to see him walk out with the torch and see him recently, right? And the whole world saw him. It's not just like it's a personal thing. Everybody saw him. I think it's a dose of reality to everybody that we're very, very lucky to be able to compete for a Stanley Cup as players and be a part of all this energy and this love and the culture of hockey and how many people from different parts of the world we've been able to bring together.

28:23But the reality is we all have our own personal lives at the end of the day, right? It is just a game and we all have to walk away from it. After the game is over, we have to walk away from it at some point in time. And when we do, that is all that matters is we hope that everybody finds their comfort in the lives that they're in. So I think that for Montreal, for those players, that reality of understanding that like tomorrow's never promised. You don't know what's to come. Be in the moment. Be grateful for the opportunities that you have. And maybe they can bring that little extra juice tonight because of the fact that they're not feeling sorry for themselves and they're in the moment.

29:02So you know this, Pat. You play professional sports. You can't be anywhere else but in the moment. And I think that it should be a reminder to those players just to be in the moment and enjoy where you are.

29:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, perspective getting put in place because of these types of situations is certainly reality of it all. And I think the Canadians couldn't help but feel some sort of way about it, especially when, well, we just saw him a few days ago. Oh, yeah. We just saw him a few days ago. So, Pat, sorry, I hate to interrupt you too, but when I was playing for the Devils, John Hayden, who played with me, was also friends with the Lemus. So I spent Christmas at the Haydens with Brendan and Claude. I knew Claude Lemus very well. I know he was in the agency group. I had lunch with him many times during my career.

29:51Was a very, very nice man. I can only say great things about him and his family. He and his family, like I said, I had the opportunity to be able to spend Christmas with them one year. And just a special person, special people. Love them very much. And I'm in shock like everybody else. But, you know, the one thing about the hockey world is you see so many guys stepping up and talking about it. And that's what's great about our game now. is that we're seeing even guys, not just guys that are currently playing, but players that have long moved on still show themselves and show their face and we hear their voices and it's so important.

30:27We see Darren McCarty like, dude, I grew up watching that series and watching those guys battle back and forth. I became a fan of the Detroit Red Wings because of that time. I became a fan of the Colorado Avalanche during that time. So to see those players speak up and once again, just reminds you how special the hockey world is. You know, it's a fraternity. It's a family. When you're in it, you get that support. And I'm sure that we were all happy to see him with a smile on his face when he did walk out with that torch. You know, that's the last vision of him. So Montreal is a special place. I think the players are reminded of that again.

31:03Pat McAfee:Great community, great culture, tragic event, obviously. And let's never forget to check on our people, you know? Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. That's a real thing, you know? And obviously this is happening in our world a lot more than any of us would ever fathom or hope for. So let's remember that. We're all going through our own journey. We are lucky as hell that you stopped by ours. You're the man. We appreciate you. Have an incredible weekend, buddy. Thanks, Pat. Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, that handbag could be yours from D.K. Subban.

31:38Pat McAfee:Puts that in the back of his shot. Unbelievable. Stitched into his speaker. It's stuck in there just as a reminder of what could have been, maybe. One of a kind. I wonder if she knows. She does now? She does now, yeah. You think she does? I think there's a chance, yeah. You think she knows it is her? Yeah, hey, remember that black hat handbag you got from P.U. Subban? Guess what? No, he said he never got to give it to her, right? He said it ended before he never got to give it to her. I don't know if she's ever seen that until now, which might be the... Yeah. What if there's another gift up there, like boots?

32:13You might be getting a call in 15 minutes. You want to maybe try this again. We're going to see a big necklace next week that's going to come across.

32:21Pat McAfee:Maybe a big watch out there. Just, hey, all of this was already bought for you. And sorry I messed up. It's okay to hate PK, but I just want to say I'm sorry. Just a guy. Just a guy trying to find my way. Stay in front of a girl, you know? Who would have thought? That could be what PK's going through right now. Oh, yeah. We'll be a part of their love story. Congratulations to them. Let's go. I hope she gets that handbag. You will. You too. And I hope she gets whatever comes next. You know, whatever he already bought her for sure. And she should maybe wait a couple more weeks just to see what all pops up there.

32:53Pat McAfee:That would potentially break his heart. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is somebody that's going to smarten us up on something that we're definitely going to be interested in because it is electrifying. Every year, we watch the Women's College Softball World Series, and we are blown away by the action, the speed, the hit, the power, the vibes, the environment, the celebrations, the drama. You name it, it has everything. It's like March Madness, but all on diamond with super fast pitches. Ladies and gentlemen, to tell us more, UNC alumni, ESPN, and ACC Network softball and baseball pundit, ladies and gentlemen, Brittany McKinney.

33:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, Brittany! What's going on, Pat? Hey, how are you doing, B-Mac? Britt, Brittany, what should I, Mrs. McKinney, Ms. McKinney. Oh, no, no. Let's not get too formal. Not too formal. Okay, we'll do BMAC. BMAC sounds cool. Are you cool with BMAC? Yeah, I'm good with that. Okay, BMAC, we're in the time where college softball really shines. And the reason why we have had a close tie to it for the last couple years is because Coach Patty Gassa and I have a relationship in which she is my softball coach. And I feel like I was a member of the boomer, sooner softball team. And we're in the middle of a dynasty.

34:05Pat McAfee:And obviously, Coach Patty Gasset is not going to let us stop that. And then this year felt different. And then all of a sudden, Mississippi State knocks Oklahoma out of the World Series for the first time in a long time. I was kind of heartbroken. But then I was following along with you, and you were talking to us, and you're like, hey, the story coming out of Mississippi State is one that you need to maybe fall in love with. I don't think they're the only one. But there is some magical things that are kind of leading into a brand new feel of the World Series. Can you tell us a little bit more about that, B-Mac, and who we should maybe be fans of right now?

34:34Pat McAfee:Who should we be fans of as we lead into an electrifying tourney? That's two elimination games tonight. Well, you love dogs. The boys love dogs. And Delaney Everett was a dog on Sunday to beat Oklahoma at their field. Shut them out. Just three hits. Let me tell you, Delaney had not started a game all season long, had about 12 innings pitch, gets the nod with their season on the line to go against the best hitting team, the dynasty of the Sooners. And she showed up and showed out. And she had the best line after the game when she said, an underdog is still a freaking dog. And I just knew you would love that.

35:14Pat McAfee:I do. I absolutely loved it. Dogs were certainly barking. I think there was a lot to the story as well, right? I think something along the lines with her family. I believe her father passed a year before this or something along those lines. There was a lot of softball gods magic kind of happening in that moment, right? We were kind of all experiencing it in real time. Magical, yeah. Delaney's dad, Brandon, had passed away last year right before the season started. He was a California highway patrolman, unexpected death right before season. Goes through the season, deals with some injuries. Back in December, she actually had surgery, so she missed a lot of time in the beginning of the year.

35:54But that Sunday where she pitched that no-hitter and shut out Oklahoma for the first time in 399 games was actually her parents' wedding anniversary too.

36:03Pat McAfee:Beautiful stuff. See, that's the stuff that sports do, you know? Sports are great, right? Yeah, sports are the absolute greatest. Her and her teammates obviously get along very well. Incredible post-game interview as they go and celebrate the hell out of making history. All right, the boys have some questions about the rest of the World Series. what we need to look at. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Brittany, Texas Tech, we were just talking about them in football and they got their own stuff going on, but they kind of were the first team that we realized was investing a lot of money. I believe Kennedy, they brought over, gave her a million bucks, and it paid off last year almost to the national championship, but is this going to be the year?

36:37Because Mississippi State, we saw yesterday, they mercy ruled them, and are they the team that we should probably keep an eye on here to run the table? Yeah, I mean, Texas is a defending national championship champions. They lost yesterday. So Texas Tech, I think, is the one to watch because they have a lot of pressure on them. They're the storyline of softball. They're the first program to throw millions of dollars into this program. Cody Campbell's not just doing it for football. He's doing it for women's sports and to get Nigerian candy over here from Stanford. So ton of pressure. And the thing that they were missing last year was another arm behind Kennedy.

37:12She can pitch a lot, but you can't pitch every inning. So they went and got Kaitlin Terry. Keep an eye on her. She's a transfer from UCLA. She can pitch. She can hit. She's an athlete. She's a stud. And she's that missing piece that they didn't have last year that I think is really going to take them to the top. But they have a lot of emotion this week. Did you see what happened last weekend at Florida?

37:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, I was about to say, we got White Chocolate's daughter right down there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a big fan of what's going on down there. I love the vibes. And I like – J. Will came out afterwards and said, they said some stuff they should – we said some stuff. This competition, I'm moving on. I'm a gator, but, you know, there's a lot that happened there, and he just kept it moving. We've been following along with J. Will online, I believe, through this entire World Series. He's a dedicated dad. Oh, yeah. Hey, his daughter's the one, huh? Yeah, we're two run homers going back into some heated grounds while it's all taking place.

38:02Pat McAfee:I think she's also a massive piece of this Texas Tech story too, right, B-Mac? Big time, big time. I mean, I'm not saying anything was intentional. I can't speak on that last week, but she got hit five times in that series. And when she didn't get hit and they left her over the plate, she had a two-run home run to take the lead at Florida. I mean, that was just kind of like the answer that anybody could ever give when you're going back to your old school and they're chirping and you're chirping. And hey, she did it. She was a huge piece. Play second base, leads off for this team. And I think that extra emotion that they gained from last week really showed up in their first game yesterday.

38:39Pat McAfee:Okay, so can you tell me, obviously I've had the opportunity to just get smoked by a pitcher there. Every time we zoom in on the pitch, there's like a little under, there's a little, that spin right there. There's a riser ball, there's a dropper ball, there's an in ball, there's an out ball, there's a fastball. How many different pitches are there? How many different pitches are each pitcher pitching? And what is the expectation of like speeds that we should be seeing as we continue to go through the World Series here? so if you like velocity carlin pickens she pitches for tennessee she hit she broke the record for 79 miles per hour pitch last season and that's equivalent to about 111 in baseball so that's really bringing it nijia can throw over 70 caitlin terry's going to throw over 70 you're going to see a lot of hard throwers and everybody's going to have their one pitch like nijia's going to be the rise ball and uh carlin pickens from tennessee is going to be the drop ball but i think the best pitch that any of these pitchers can have is a change up the one that has the change up that's the change up right there from nigel kennedy you saw the less spin so when you're throwing 72 then you can bring it down to 59 it's going to really mess up hitters so look out for the pitcher that has the best change up this week too okay i love that insight thank you for that the riser i was asking patty gaso while i'm taking bp like what do you do just swing high they're like no you don't swing like the riser is you just don't you don't swing you're never going to make contact with it You're never going to make it.

40:08Pat McAfee:It's just going to be a ball. So I guess it is going to be a ball basically every time. But you know where. Because that thing is like literally coming in on a string to your bat, it looks like. And then it just takes off to the sky. They could have got me 15 straight times with that one. 15 straight, I think I would have been hacking low at that thing. The movement is crazy. 79, you said, is 111. What's the distance? 43 feet. 43 feet. Okay, so they do the math. Is that on the screen immediately? 79, 111? 79 is. Yeah, I don't think 111 is. I know they do that for the Little League World Series and stuff like that, but I don't think I've seen it in the Women's College World Series.

40:46Pat McAfee:Feels like we should be doing that, shouldn't we? For sure. BMAC, you should be telling them to do that. That was a great stat out of you there. That was a stat that's certainly eye-opening so we can understand what the hell is happening in front of us. Okay, let's talk about some big conference ball. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, so we've talked about Texas Tech with the NIL, but in every other sport, the Big Ten has kind of really started going in full steam ahead with NIL, and they've won several national championships and a bunch of other sports. Right now we have Nebraska, who just had a walk-off win last night, and then UCLA, who got beat, but Megan Grant, she hit, what, 40 homers this year and set the record.

41:19So what do you see? Is the expectation that an SEC school is just going to win the title this year, or can you see one of these Big Ten teams maybe winning an unconventional title? Yeah, I think the Big Ten has really shocked a lot of people this year. UCLA, coming from the Pac-12, the Pac-12, Pac-10 used to be the softball conference. So Big Ten getting UCLA over there is huge. They've won 12 national championships. So the expectations and the know-how to win a championship is there for UCLA. And they can hit. You mentioned it. Megan Grant is unbelievable. She hit her 41st home run last night.

41:56The team has over 200 home runs. So if their offense can keep up, right, it's incredible. But they just have to score 10 runs because they only have one arm in the circle, really, with Taylor Tinsley. But then Nebraska, man, they're complete. Do you remember Jordie Ball? Now Jordie Fromm. She was at Oklahoma, won the two national championships, then transferred back home to Nebraska. Yes. Big deal there. Yes, she wanted to play at home. She's a two-way player, pitcher, hitter, just an absolute stud. And they have another pitcher, Alexis Jensen, who's a freshman. who's really picked up the load too to take that off of Jordy.

42:32So they are a complete team in the circle. I just think having more than one arm will take you further than just trying to out-hit people.

42:38Pat McAfee:Baseball, you're on a mound. Softball, you're in a circle. Let's talk about the circle. Because I think we saw Kennedy just the whole time. Yeah, she pitched every game. Is there – what is the normal expectation of pitchers? And should we expect to see the studs basically throughout all of World Series from every team? or does there have to be some obvious inning limit stuff happening in softball? Because what you guys say, and I'm not saying you guys as – I don't want you to think this is broad paint brushing, whatever the case is. But softball people say, I think baseball people say, this is a natural movement, so it's better for your arm, right?

43:15Pat McAfee:Isn't that kind of what is normally said? This is like a more natural movement as opposed to this one. Is there limits, and how much should we be expecting out of these pitchers each one of these games? Yes, I've heard the whole natural movement thing There's not a pitch limit You need so many days off So if a pitcher is able to throw every inning of every game They can, but I think the offense is so much better Now in our sport, especially this year With all the home run records being broken I mean, a home run record that's 31 years old Got smashed by three players this year So the offense is so much better That they're going to have to throw more than one arm So if you're only relying on one arm Like Texas Tech did last year with Niza you're going to get in trouble.

43:54But Texas Tech went out and they found a number two pitcher who's kind of been another ace for Texas Tech with Kaitlin Terry. So they knew what they were missing last year and they brought it in. You'll definitely see the superstars in the circle, right? But they're going to have a supporting cast with them.

44:08Pat McAfee:I love that the circle is going to be star-studded. Can't wait to die, man. We appreciate the hell out of you, Brittany. Great work on this sport for so long. Hey, man, it's such a pleasure to be here. I watch you guys every day. If you look at your demographics, I'm sure you do, but the 34 to 30-year-old white woman in Mississippi that watches your show every day, that's me, okay? We will see. You're the best, ladies. You're the one. We appreciate you. Yay, Brittany! That was very kind of her. Awesome. And it is, like we say it every single year, when the College Women's World Series comes around, it is lightning.

44:46Pat McAfee:Very fast. Yes. Everything's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And the environment's already got all the chants down. It is good television. It's just like Omaha. It's just like the men's. We're going to have someone on to do the men's college baseball. That's another thing where you come around and you remember, oh, yeah, this is awesome every single year. Yeah, sports always provide. Let's get back to the NBA, shall we? A man who was in the NBA for 13 years, former three-point shooting champion, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Q Rich is here. Yeah, Q Rich.

45:16Whoa. Jeez.

45:24You're not feeling my green, sir?

45:28Pat McAfee:I love it. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of that. I'll tell you what. I didn't know you could wear a flashlight. You know, like, I did not know that that was, but you are glowing. Hey, this is a good Feel Good Friday. Hey, isn't it? This guy's glowing on TV. It's fantastic. Q Rich, we appreciate you. Yeah, Q Rich. We needed that, Q Rich. I needed it. You know, the reason why today is a little bit different than some of these days coming off of an NBA playoff game, it was just an ass-beating last night. It wasn't a lot of glitz glamour of a Game 6 forcing Game 7. It was more so just San Antonio Spurs just kind of dominating Oklahoma City, even doing a body check to SGA in that game as if they were sending a tone for future Game 7 as well.

46:16Pat McAfee:What are your thoughts on last night? How should we be judging this Oklahoma City team that just got smacked in Game 6 as we look ahead to Game 7? And where do you kind of sit with this Spurs team as a whole? I mean, the Spurs are what I expected them to be. They forced it to Game 7. I mean, this is what I thought this series would be, a 6 or 7 game series. So, you know, we as fans get to enjoy a Game 7. But kind of like the tone of this series, the way it's gone, it feels like to me it's been – it started to, you know, obviously the first four games were what they were – or the first three, then it was home, away, home, away, home, away, just winning.

46:55So right now I feel like that's kind of where it's at. You know, OKC kind of tuned them up the last game at home. Then Spurs come back and do the same thing. And they did that the last game at home. So for me, I feel like this game seven, everything kind of goes out the window. but you still kind of have the numbers, the history in the back that the Game 7 home team normally wins, and then you look at the tone of this series, the home team has won. So, I mean, you would kind of expect, you know, SGA to bounce back from a rough game and OKC to recover and kind of defend their home court. This is what they play the regular season and go out and get the best record in the league for so they can have this advantage when it comes time, if it ever comes down to this like it did.

47:35Pat McAfee:Oklahoma City definitely an advantage too, venue-wise. I think everybody that's ever played there has said that. And Adam Silver saying this is working out exactly how we would have liked. Now granted, one-point games throughout the entirety, maybe a couple buzzer beaters like we had last year. Tyrese had like four of them through the playoff run. Haven't really had that moment seemingly in a while in the NBA playoffs. I don't remember if it's been the entirety of the NBA playoffs or not, but maybe there was one early. We haven't had that moment. But having a game seven between two teams that have won at least 60 regular season games has only happened one other time in history.

48:07Pat McAfee:Wow. Saturday will mark the second game, seven in NBA history between teams that have won 60 games or more. The 62-win Celtics beat the 62-win 76ers 91-90 in game seven of the 1981 Eastern Conference Finals. Congrats, Connor. Boom. Another victory. That's the stat right there. That's the stat. Yeah, there's a stat about, hey, 60-plus wins is not an easy thing to do. So if two teams are doing that in the same conference and they collide, this thing's probably going to go ahead and get after it. Congrats to both these teams having an incredible season. And congrats to the Knicks getting another what?

48:39Pat McAfee:Just three days? Yeah. Is this another three-day wait at least added on to the end of it? What are your – Robinson. Robinson get to get that pinky right. You know, he get to get a couple more days to, you know, heal that thing up. So that's good for them. OG had a hamstring they were able to heal up. Jalen Brunson not running up and down the court every single night for seven games obviously helps them. Mitchell Robinson's right pinky. Hopefully he will get healed up in a good way. Coach Brown will be able to get refreshed and watch film on both these guys. to figure out how to do it. It feels like for basketball, and we were kind of wondering if it was rest or rust with them a couple times, but with the basketball, more specifically the Knicks team, they are using this just strictly to get health and fresh and everything.

49:19Pat McAfee:And it's almost like they've played their best games coming off these long layoffs as if they were eager to get back on the court. How do you feel about the Knicks? And with the Oklahoma City Thunder or the San Antonio Spurs, who are both favored by DraftKings and hypothetical series is if they were to get there, Does the Knicks team, just because of how hot they've been, have a chance to win? Or is there a matchup that really tells the story of, yeah, the Knicks can certainly beat either of the Western Conference teams? I think the key thing that happened for the Knicks, man, is when they had that moment in the playoffs where they switched and started playing kind of through Carl Anthony Towns up top and let him be more of a facilitator.

49:59I think that's opened up things for Jalen Bronson because obviously he still can get the ball and do his thing whenever. But I think him coming off the ball is tougher for opponents than loading up and guarding against him being an ISO ball. So I think that's opened him up. Obviously, McHale Bridges has played a lot better. Hart is really like, you know, his name. He's the heart of the team. And I feel like the big guys have played great for him. So, I mean, all things, they clicked where they clicked at the right time. And, I mean, this stretch that they're running on and winning in this way, it's not a fluke.

50:32It's something that sometimes you see in a regular season where teams go on stretches. They just happen to hit it at the right time in the playoffs. So for me, OKC or the Spurs, I don't think, you know, how we started the playoffs thinking that, hey, it's kind of like the West or whatever. It's not really like that. I think the Knicks have a legitimate chance with either one of the teams. And it's just going to depend on how they come out. Like you look at it right now, I think they've learned from that Philadelphia series when they swept them and then they had to wait on Cleveland. I think they're preparing different with this time off because they learned that they came out kind of flat in that first game, even though they were able to recover.

51:08But I think they learned some things from that, and I think they're going to try and safeguard against the cobwebs or the rust, as they would say, from this layoff they had.

51:18Pat McAfee:Man, if you win in New York, they know it. Forever. Made men. They're going to be made. They're kind of made already, but if they win it, whoo. Yeah. They out of here. Statues on top of Madison Square Garden. You know, that is the things that they're talking about over there. They've been desperate for it, for sure. Okay, let's talk about the state of ball, ethical hoops, unethical hoops. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Q, Rich. We talked to Tyrese Halliburton, and he kind of mentioned how players are, in fact, being taught, you know, drawing fouls and the whole flop conversation and all that. And then Chris Paul yesterday kind of referenced Chauncey Bilbs being one of the guys that, you know, you were kind of taught or learned how to extend the arms in order to kind of create more area for fouls to be had.

51:57Now, I know where you stand on this in that all the guys, you know, do it in the top scorers, always get the calls and stuff like that. There's some footage that would argue that, but I don't want to hear about that. What did you think about the take of, like, yes, there are kids now growing up kind of learning how to do that in a more efficient way and that basketball heading towards that way? It's still not new to me. I mean, when you – and me as a fan and I watch most games in the league, I watch games every night. I mean, I can't say I watch every game because I'm always watching, but I'm always watching the game every night the game's on.

52:33And you can look through the game. Everybody tries to do it. Everybody. Legitimately, you can go. You know, they got YouTube. Now, you can go on YouTube or somebody, the guys, it's Clippers in the world now that do this. You can make a highlight clip of any player who plays significant minutes trying to sell a call or trying to sell a file. You can do it. I don't care who they are. Any player, they will be caught if you do it. Everybody has tried to do it. The only difference is some are better than others. And I guess if we want to say that, that means SGA is the best at it. And not only is he the best at that, he's the best at scoring.

53:09He's been the best guy in offense, period, the last two. He's been the most valuable player two years running. So I think it's getting a little more highlight from him because they team kicking everybody's ass and they hate it. So, I mean, that's pretty simple. he's not they don't they they are 11th in the league and free throws in the playoffs so like what are we talking about they don't lead the league he didn't lead the league in the regular season and playoff i mean in free throw attempts so what are we talking about yeah he gets highlighted because you want to hate on him because he they they're killing everybody

53:41Pat McAfee:well people want to throw rocks at things that glow or shine you know like right now you walk your ass outside i think there'll be 10 kids yeah start throwing shit at that shirt of yours but you're right it being spotlighted and it being the mvp of the league and people seeing it i think does bring much more attention to it going back to your point that tyrese basically made and chris paul said chris paul said that they tried to teach him and he wasn't good at he like i can't i because when i'm coming through i'm told to hold the ball and then now they're telling them to expose arms basically because guys are going to miss more often than not and as soon as they do that we're just and then can't even make the shoot.

54:19Pat McAfee:Not even a thought of it. Just get your arms out and throw the fucker up in the air and then you'll get a foul. That's basically what he says. They're being taught at a younger age. It's like, so you've got to be a thespian then to be a great elite basketball player because then the selling also comes in there. I'll tell you what. I like the gamesmanship. I do enjoy it. I hate it. But statistically, one of those guys is on the floor a lot more than the others. On that note, speaking on the floor we appreciate the hell out of you q rich you're the man enjoy the hell out of your weekend we'll talk to you next week yes sir fellas anytime i do like the shirt i love the shirt i do like reminds me of sherbert people are walking through airports right now and they're like holy hell look at that that's pretty cool this guy's got a black light showing in the background i'm just thinking he's supporting webby it's a good alien color that is a good Alien color.

55:09Pat McAfee:That's a good call. Are we learning any more about any? Ladies and gentlemen, that's Q Rich. Hey, Q Rich.

55:17Pat McAfee:11th in the league, free throw shooting? That does kind of. I'll tell you what, you're going to have to stop with your – Oh, no. That kind of – They'd be number one in the league, though, if they called it every time SGA was on the floor. And that's the other problem that adds to it, is that the different reffing crews call different things. It's very similar to the NFL where it's like, hey, this crew is going to call pass interference or holding more often than not. That just shouldn't be how it is. We got a lot of stuff happening around the NFL world. We got a lot of stuff happening around the baseball world.

55:46Pat McAfee:Obviously, there's a lot of stuff happening around the NBA world. In the next hour, guess where we're going. Where? We're going Insiders Only. Okay. Yeah, we're going Insiders Only. I'll tell you, it's a place that usually you have to live with a phone actually sewn to your hands. So that is a place that you have to kind of be one with your iPhone or iPhones. But, yeah, if you look in the corner there on the bar, it says access information advantage. And that's what it's all about at Insiders Only. We'll have Jack Choms and Schefter joining us, basically wrapping up a week of their perspective sports, which are obviously having massive things happening in them.

56:24Pat McAfee:And we'll kind of break it all down as we go inside the Insiders Club. Getting it in. Like that. We'll also have Cody Campbell joining us. Okay. AJ Hawk. Okay. And do some sports. Okay. And then we're going to go into the greatest weekend of all time. Now, am I saying that because it's the next weekend of all time? Yeah. Yes. But that's the mindset it needs to be. There's an opportunity this weekend to have the greatest weekend of all time. Let's remember that. Next hour, we're going to launch into it in a beautiful fashion. Does that sound good? That sounds great. Does that sound like a deal?

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58:16Pat McAfee:Sports are the greatest. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to cover them for a living. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, I'll say it. Sweet look today. Hey, thank you very much. I actually thought when I laid it out last night because I do lay out everything I wear the night before. And I will also say that yesterday was the first time I looked down at these Halliburton Scooby-Doo's and thought, gosh, I love these shoes. That's the first time you've ever thought about that? That was the first time I looked at them and thought, like, I truly love them. Not like some of the other ones.

58:46I mean, I love the outfits.

58:47Pat McAfee:It sounded like you started that sentence with a potential different destination, and then you realized halfway through, I like Tyrese Alliburton. I don't really want to do that because he was great for us in the State of Sports primetime special just a couple days ago. No, just some of the outfits I have, they really pop. In this one, it feels like they kind of fit in perfectly. The Avatar ones, I loved the first pair. They're all great. And he just makes some white ones. Hey, Tyrese, can we just make some white Halley ones, please? We got the Spongebobs here, okay? I like them. They're cool.

59:18Pat McAfee:That's innovative. I love SpongeBob. Patrick, obviously, is the man. Yeah. Okay, I really enjoy that. Was that a Pirates game the other night? Yeah, was he? Yeah, he's actually kind of making the rounds right now. He's doing a tour. They're doing a stadium for you. Yeah, so I am a fan. Just make some white shoes. You mean like the Ku Klux? See, I don't mind those. I'd rather wear the New Balance Hikers. Oh, sure. Sorry, what? The New Balance, Hoka's, the... Yeah, those ones. Yeah, I got you. Those are nice. Oh, yeah, yeah. He also said those aren't his, though. If I'm hooping, though, I'll wear the...

59:47Pat McAfee:Coupe flags. Yeah, the coupe flags. It does feel like we're all just wearing free shoes. I like what we're doing around here. Well, I wish. If... Yeah, actually, by the way, you know... Ask Federer to send some. Yeah, Roger Federer wants to send some. So we're on clouds. Feel free. On clouds, yeah. Because I've spent way too much money on these fuckers. I'll tell you what. I can't see that at all. Fed's watching the show every day. Could not see those shoes at all. I think we do have, they're the enclats, which have taken over every hospital I realized. They are so comfortable. They are the best.

1:00:15Pat McAfee:You are walking. Enclats. Yeah. It's no lie, and I don't think he ever would. I believe we have a oh-no train coming right down the pipes here in a few moments. Oh, yeah. That tennis is going to make an appearance. Oh, really? Okay. I do believe so. But before we get to the oh-no train, let's go to the oh-yeah, man. Let's go to college football national champion. Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Hawk. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Why don't everybody go around and show what shoes you got on today, which free ones that were sent to the Thunder. Go ahead, do it. That's good TV.

1:00:52Pat McAfee:Obviously, we know that. That's why we're not winning these awards, but we're certainly sitting in the corner of them. We do have some breaking news, and it might be breaking to us, but it is no breaking news in Cary, North Carolina. Ladies and gentlemen, as expected, The Gene Fit FC team has survived and advanced the knockout round of 32. Wow. Go, boys. Wow, boys. They got a big win over TMT Chicago. Two in a row. Yeah, two wins. Obviously, they had to play the same team twice in back-to-back days. This massive soccer tournament, much like the basketball tournament for a million-dollar grand prize for the teams, has been happening in Cary for a few years now, five years, I believe.

1:01:31Pat McAfee:It is awesome. There is a lot of great players, great teams, great vibes, great competition. Some, you know, because soccer is a petty drama community. Sure. There is some drama and some controversy, but it's also a magical event. And Gene Fit FC, we know a lot of the players that are number 20. There's Jeff. I believe there's a Saucy Sanchez on the team this year. Obviously, Meat and the boys are still there. Black Booth. Zach, Mario, yes, the entire team. Breck Shea might make an appearance. Yeah, obviously. Gordy Gorson's coaching alongside. Stammer. Yeah, Stammer. Gary Stammer. So it's a concave foundation, but Gene Fit is this year's spot.

1:02:11Pat McAfee:Mike Foss, obviously, not able to play this year, even though he trained for seven, eight months. Coach Gumps is on the first thing smoking out of here today. Yeah, because they won the game, so that means Coach Gumps is going to get back into being a gaffer. I don't know if now's the time, though, because the lads seemingly may have found some chemistry stuff maybe today. Stammer's tactics so far. Them having an 11-30 game with what we know about that Gene Fit team, that was TST really testing this team. That might have been their biggest challenge, just the alarm clock. Because after a huge undefeated pool play, we know what those arena boys were.

1:02:48Pat McAfee:Boy, oh boy. A lot of sweat in game one. Yeah, I would say. Those guys were in the pool last night at the hotel, well past when it was closed, drinking beers, jacking around, probably until 5, 6 in the morning. I don't know if they got into the pool. They were certainly sitting around it. I assume there were some cigars smoked. Sure, chicken bites. Maybe like 100 cigars smoked. Okay. Maybe the most amount of cigars that I've ever seen. Actual cigars? Yeah. They look like them for sure. The most I've ever seen in one sitting. Almost to the point where you're like, this is kind of a waste at this point, isn't it?

1:03:25Pat McAfee:Absolutely not. and then just keep just – and then wake up and running all over the place. The Arena League boys, okay, it has been an honor to get to know this creature, okay, this human and what they are. They love soccer. And if these guys get a chance to win the TST as a whole, I will be so incredibly happy for them. I will be so pumped for meat. I'll be pumped for everybody. And hopefully they're able to keep it together, boys. That is – Come on, stick together, boys. How many more wins do we need? So next would be 16, right? And then eight, and then four, and then TSO. Oh, that's a lot of games.

1:04:01Pat McAfee:I think they're there until next month. Yeah. Okay. If they win it all. You know, it is a long week down there. But they had a home run derby last night at TST. Did you see this, AJ? I did see a little bit of it. I've been fucked. Yeah, Carly Lloyd. Here's a little highlight that certainly needs to be showcased. Carly Lloyd, former U.S. women's national team superstar. New Jersey, I believe, is the state in which she calls home. She participated in a home run derby last night while being pregnant at TST. And boom! Blasted into the woods. Good idea with the home run derby. Carly Lloyd, five years ago, maybe, I forget how long, was going to potentially try to kick field goals, football, because she had such a strong leg in soccer.

1:04:42Pat McAfee:Obviously, football is a, you have to be very, very explosive to be able to kick it in a fashion, to be able to make it in the NFL. You have to get it up very quickly. It has to go very far. Everything has to do that. Carly Lloyd, I think, known for having a very strong leg, especially in women's soccer. So her hitting home runs last night while pregnant. Carly, hell yeah. Hey. Hell yeah. It's not just Carly. A lot of former national team players are down there in Cary. Wrexham, I believe a Wrexham, right? She's from Wrexham, right? Yeah, Wrexham won the home run derby as she hit them last night.

1:05:14Pat McAfee:So it's a cool soccer celebration down there that they got going on. I think they should be incredibly proud of themselves. But I would like the Gene Fit boys to win one. I would like the Concava boys to win one. You don't like Saucy Sanchez. This guy's been scoring goals all over the place. I just don't like that these boys forgot kind of where they came from. They did not. They're basically spitting in your face. No, they are not at all. Especially the Mopovich guy. What's that? Excuse me? Meet Mopovich. Meet Mopovich. Meet Mopovich. I don't disrespect you. How is he? Just spitting in your face.

1:05:49Pat McAfee:No, he's not. He's honoring the team. He's honoring Gumption. Hey, I think these boys are carrying Concafo with pride. Don't you think, Gumpy, the host of the Concafo podcast? Yeah, they're battling down there. They went down 1-0 again today. They've come back in all these games. So they're battle-tested. I like what I'm saying. 11.30 AM. Yeah, I don't know what they expect out of these guys, honestly. And also, I believe, new dads, a couple of them. So this might be the first time that they've gotten a chance to get out of. Also, it wasn't on the video there, but the announcer was saying, I think after they scored, Breck Shea might have fought a guy on one of the other teams during the celebration.

1:06:26Pat McAfee:So you're acting like they forgot about their concave foot ties? Still bringing it. I love Breck Shea. I'll never say anything bad about that guy. I do love Breck Shea. I love Jeff Cameron as well. He's got multiple goals already. Black boots. Black boots. I do love black boots. Breck Shea is kind of in his bag right now. Okay, everybody that's tuning in at 1 o 'clock Eastern, A Block. They're gone already. ST conversation in North Carolina. Okay. Obviously, what we love to do at the end of each week, sports week, is we like to recap the week of sports in our own way. You know, everybody has the highlights.

1:06:58Pat McAfee:Everybody has the top ten. We decide to do a couple different things. We like to hit the oh-no train for things that suck. And things that are good, we like to say that they are things that are not ass at all. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to five things that aren't ass. Ladies and gentlemen, with OTAs happening and football players getting back on the field together, there's highlights in abundance. Let's go down to Tampa Bay. Mecca Abuka. Last year, beginning of the season, first half of the season, he was leading everybody in everything. The rookie, wide receiver out of Ohio State was going to potentially be the next one.

1:07:31Pat McAfee:Then, obviously, Tampa Bay kind of falls off at the end there. Now he's all the way back. Is he wearing just tights underneath? And on that note, what an insane grab, AJ. I love that we're back to highlight football catches. And obviously, this matters. this helps win a Super Bowl. Unfortunately, I feel like one of the DBs chasing him may have pulled a hammy there. If you look at the very end of the bottom of the screen, I hope he grabs his hammy. I like the finish. Look at the finish in practice. We're on May 28th yesterday, and this guy's finishing like this. It's all signs looking good down there in Tampa.

1:08:01Pat McAfee:Not just him, the other wide receivers as well. Guy pulling his hammy means he's trying to finish as well. You're right here, right? Ah, ah, ah. Even if you don't, you have to for the film. Probably so hot down there. You think that linebacker finished the chase, or you think he kind of gave up? No, it looks like everybody's rocking down there. The boys are hustling. I'll tell you. They are moving. I like what we're seeing out of – I'll tell you what. The catch. The finish. The effort. Nice block right here as well. Maybe the Buccaneers. I'll tell you what. That's certainly not ass. Let's go to the next one.

1:08:34Pat McAfee:Let's go to TST. Ladies and gentlemen, we were just chit-chatting about this. Breck Shea, former U.S. men's national team superstar. Also a man who played for Inter-Miami pre-Leo Messi. Also in Dallas. Spin. Oh! Yeah. Come on. I was in Target. Sorry. And he will fight you. Yeah, no matter how old he gets, he's obviously incredibly cool-looking. Phenomenal at soccer. Been training with Mike Barwis, formerly of West Virginia and Michigan, now with Barwis Gym. He, in the best shape of his life, he was quoted as saying, and doesn't mind if he does a spin move. Whoop-de-woo. Top ends. How you do. And that is, to tie it up in target time, Gene Fit FC would go on to win when Saucy Sanchez would sneak one home.

1:09:16Pat McAfee:Now, Gene Fit has advanced to the round of 16 in TST. We will certainly follow along with their story. Let's go to Brewers reliever. Uribe. Yeah, there you go. Strike! ABS challenge from the batter. Uribe doesn't like it, says, hey, how about this to the Cardinals' entire dugout? Suck it, dude. Suck it. big old lipper in there. He's very confident, obviously. The tip of the tip is on the tip of the tip. It does not matter. That's a strike. And that is what we like to call not ask. Because this could have went very bad for Uribe after telling an entire team and an organization to suck it and then being completely wrong.

1:09:57Pat McAfee:AJ, I like when it works out like this in a positive way, because it seems like the sports gods really never let this type of thing happen. Yeah, I just want to know for the pitcher here, how confident was he when he's given the suck it? Was he hoping or was he 100 % out? Now, this is absolutely a strike because you've got to think, if this backfires on me, it's going to be great. Just get back out here. I mean, it was at least a triple, so I think he was pretty confident. Yeah. I mean, there was one at the beginning, and then he crossed, and he did another, and then he cut off the camera. So I don't think he would have been able to, when the camera came back to him, to do six chops.

1:10:29Pat McAfee:But I do think it was potentially a triple chopper, which would tell me he's pretty confident. I think he was pretty confident in his stuff, and how could you not? From tip to tip, side to side, this guy knows. Yeah, that's right. Let's go to Korea, shall we? Things that are not asked. How about the Honwa Eagles right fielder, Jonathan Perlaza? Oh, he's going to get tagged. No. Oh. No. Playing a game of tag. Like, the Watt brothers are hosting. That's in Korea. That's Jonathan Perlaza breakdancing, and that is safe at home. Filthy. Put a run on the board. My man's break that. Hey! Yay! That's good.

1:11:10Pat McAfee:That's what I'm talking about. Sliding glove, I think, is certainly a nice little accessory. I think I would probably use it just because it looks so cool and you can sell it. Kind of like I love whenever I pull something really hot out of the oven. I have that little oven mitt. I think that is a cool look for all parties, like a mitten, if you will. But, AJ, that's some real athleticism. It would be do-si-do-ing around a catcher who's living and dying with a tag on your body. Yeah, how many managers and coaches around the country are going to be practicing this? Obviously, come next practice you have for baseball.

1:11:41I want to see them try to work on this a little bit. Put a drill together. None? What are you talking about? None, because the only time you see this shit is in movies. This might be the first time I've ever seen this extended. It just doesn't happen. Usually those guys are hooked by it.

1:11:55Pat McAfee:This is the future of baseball. Maybe that's worth two runs. Maybe that's worth two runs. Catchers are going to do open field tackling drills. Put that in the new CBA. Okay, let's stick with baseball here, okay? This is Merlin Valdez hitting his first dinger here against Toronto. You know, he's a tall lad. He's got a little thing down there on his ankle. He's probably hit a foul ball off himself before. That is not foul, though. That one is gone. Awful. Congratulations to Mr. Valdez. You just hit your first career home run. Yeah. Hey, Blue Jays. Yeah, we're doing the entire thing. Okay, we're having a good time out here.

1:12:31Pat McAfee:We're having a good time out here. Okay, then he gets back and everybody goes, hold the phone now. We need to get that ball back, don't we? Hey, you see, as you saw what was happening out there, that is Pirates reliever Justin Lawrence. Okay, he's currently negotiating with the kid who caught the baseball. Kid on phone from bullpen to dugout talking to Valdez and probably Skipper. Probably good negotiation happened with kid who's holding a hard bargain, by the way. Pirates reliever Justin Lawrence, you see him going, hey, we need to sign back. He has signed bat. He does that at the beginning of the call for this kid to give this bat.

1:13:06Pat McAfee:I appreciate the kid not rolling over. Yeah. I appreciate him negotiating. We got a bucko's guy talking to a kid's dad now, I assume, or mom. You know, definitely going to the family. We're thinking a bat, signed bat is a good deal. Like, don't you think it's good? This guy's first home run. We'll give him first bat. And also, next time we come to town, we'll get you guys good tickets. He's going to let the whole family come out. I like that there was a negotiation. I like that old buddy got his first ever home run ball. I like that this kid recognized quickly that he had leverage. And I like that the parents said, pull me on the phone with the parts.

1:13:35Pat McAfee:And they're on there as if we were kids and something happened somewhere. Magical moment. That is certainly not ass at all, A.J. Hawk. No, it's not. I thought at first that kid was on the phone with his lawyer, trying to get his lawyer to talk to the team, trying to negotiate a situation. I mean, that certainly could be the case. You see him right there. Justin Lawrence is going, look, I'm pitching. We need a – Yeah, sign bat. I'm going to need a signed bat. Sorry. Otherwise, you're not getting it back. Yeah, there's a chance he was driving a hard bargain there with his lawyer. Like if you get three of these balls for that one home run ball?

1:14:03No?

1:14:04Pat McAfee:No, buddy. We're going to need season tickets. Yeah, that is – I do appreciate Justin Lawrence coming over here not knowing that he was about to be negotiating with the kid and probably third party. Yep. He didn't know that just coming over – we'll offer the kid some balls, right? This kid – hey, kid, three Major League Baseball baseballs. We all threw them in here. They're really used. What's your name, pal? I don't know who you are. I don't care about your ball. I'm on the phone. All right, so I got it. This guy's first ever home run ball. They're begging me. This guy just brought me three balls already.

1:14:32Pat McAfee:What if this kid is the next Ari Gold? Might be. What if this kid is the next Ari Gold? I mean, fucking somebody from the team having to come talk to this, whoever's on the phone with this kid, this is not ass at all. I love this kid. Hey, way to go, kid. Way to handle that. There's been situations in the past that obviously have gone wrong for people they think they got the raw end of the deal or whatever. but also Valdez getting his first home run ball. That's a big deal. That's a big deal for him as well. I think all parties won. Speaking of winning, let's go down to South Florida Men's League.

1:15:04Pat McAfee:Okay, an internet personality and a talk show host. Announced that he's won the Men's League Championship. Congrats to Darius J. Butler. D-Butt played nine years in the NFL. He's a host of a lot of different things. Everything DB. He puts out an All Everything DB team on ESPN and YouTube and TikTok and X every single week. This guy's dynamic, and I'll tell you, on the court, he seems to be a problem. I'll tell you, football players making a good argument to be the greatest athletes on earth, AJ, every single day. Yeah, this video shows, and I think Will Blackman, my old teammate, reposted and said, D-Bud's got his own mixtape out here.

1:15:43It's true. Whoever's cutting this together for D-Bud, this is beautiful. That was one game. Are you serious? It's only from one game. I mean, D-Bud looks like he's 22 years old out there as well. He's unbelievable.

1:15:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's one game. There's other highlights from the entire league year. There will be some kid in the high school gym that has the thing, and somehow he ends up getting recorded. And D-Butt will ask this kid, hey, can you give me some of the footage? I mean, D-Butt's – we're dunked D-Butt's. Oh, yeah. He was running suicide here the other day. Was he running out – did they do intros in his league at the very beginning of this? This is South Florida men's league. This is real – I mean, there's a lot. Real hoops. There's a lot of players down there, yeah. He's a little bit worried right now, though, you know, as the defending champ.

1:16:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, he is. because I believe Devontae Parker has entered the league. That's correct. And there's going to be certainly a battle at some point. Sounds like it's a potential collision course. Yeah. And we might have to make our way down there for that one. We might have to make our way down there. But he trains out here. He trains out here. He was running suicides the other day. They should stream those games like they do kids' AU games. They should stream D-Bot's men's. D-Bot's really good. That was whenever the whole podcast Olympics were kind of being talked about. It was like, I really like our chances.

1:16:56Any sport. Any sport for D-Butt, we got him.

1:16:59Pat McAfee:Yes. That's why I wanted him to be backup holder. I'm like, D-Butt's the best athlete that I've seen. Okay, so I would like him to be the holder. Turns out his hands were too good. Too smooth, too good, too put down there. You know, because everybody says DBs can't catch. It was like, well, actually, he was a wide receiver. He just didn't have a quarterback in high school, so they just put him on defense. And then he plays all the defensive positions and also – Didn't have a quarterback in college. if you wanted to play hoops right now. He is. Dan Orlovsky was a playboy All-American. Come on. Okay, I will have you know.

1:17:30Pat McAfee:He's on the cover of that one. Yeah. Sports Illustrator. And Athlon, yeah. And Athlon. And Athlon. Okay, let's move off of the things that aren't asked. We appreciate sports people donating happiness to our lives. We very much appreciate that. Let's go to – no, you're right. Have to. Have to. It is one of the greatest nights we've ever experienced. And probably the best celebration in the history of sports. I regret to inform everybody that is listening that I've gone against my word and decided to speak about something that I said I'm never going to talk about again. I've been disappointed time and time again by these dart throwers overseas.

1:18:09Pat McAfee:I turn into night four and night five. Sheffield, great night. Night seven and night nine, okay? Because we're right after our show, right in here. I turn in. I haven't won a bet in months on these starters. And I started wondering why. Well, they're all terribly out of shape. None of these people have ever been consistent with anything that they've ever done in their entire lives. How am I supposed to be betting on consistency when these guys clearly, obviously, my eyes tell me, have never been consistent with anything other than inconsistency, right? So they're professional athletes battling for millions of dollars.

1:18:46Oh, yeah.

1:18:47Pat McAfee:Millions and millions of dollars. in a very chaotic thing, and they seem to not even really... Hey, it's how it is, mate. Just kind of go in there. They're kind of... Very fat. You can say it. Very fat. Some are, yeah. Just out of shape. Clearly didn't even think about focusing on this as like a profession and muscle memory and like, let's work in on this. It's just lads basically going out there and just snipering all over the place. I finally want to bet because he is who he says he is. Ladies and gentlemen, we can announce, because you definitely did not watch this live in real time, even though you should have thought about it, Luke Littler is the official Premier League champion of darts.

1:19:31Pat McAfee:Congrats to him yesterday. Way to go, Littler. 11-10. 11-10 final as Luke beat Cool Hand Luke Humphreys. And Cool Hand Luke Humphreys had to step in for Luke Littler during the trophy celebration conversation. Because Luke Littler got so emotional. He couldn't speak anymore. So he almost quit this year. He just quit darts. Yeah, I quit betting on him. I know when he almost quit. I know exactly when it was. It was about three, four weeks in a row where we weren't winning nothing. And Luke Littler had to dig down deep and remind himself of who he was. And now he's champion once again. Congrats to you, Toxic Table, who obviously are Littler's followers and just a Luke Littler dream camp guy.

1:20:14Yeah, we are Littler heads for many reasons. And one of the things you can look at it and say, oh, yeah, these guys are fat, out of shape. They don't care about their sport. Or you can look at it and say, they're so focused on darts, they can't even think about what their next meal is. Their next meal is just showing up, and they're shoving it down their goal. And you see how much it means to them. Look at that watch on his arm. Look at Littler crying. Boo-hoo, man, clearly has sponsored him. Actually on his chest right there, boo-hoo, man. And then, yeah, as you see him post-game, it was just so much.

1:20:46And Littler took a lot of gruff early on in the season. Go, Johnny. Go, go, go. It was just sweeping the floor basically with everyone. And then Littler came on halfway through. Cheers, Littler. Congratulations. We're so happy for you, brother.

1:20:58Pat McAfee:We're happy for Luke Littler. Cheers, Littler. That's been a feed on for years now. We've been following him for years. How old is he? 19. No, come on. 19. What do you mean? Come on. 10 years old. You're not serious. He's a phenom. All right, please. Move on. All right, let's move along. He might be 80. We don't know. He's a Laminia mall of darkness. He's 19 years old. January 21st, 2007. We just known him for so long. That's why you're saying. Littler's 19 years. Yes. All right. Dude, what's your deal, man? Yeah. Respect the game. He's also listed a staggering 5 '8". I mean, he is so good, so young.

1:21:36He's still growing. I don't know how he's so good, so young is what I'm saying. He's been Child prodigy He's been blessed by the Do they have a weight on there? What if he's in stone? How many stone is Luke Littler? I need to know He's championship He's championship stone He's also You're right That's all We almost lost He almost quit He should be playing

1:21:58Pat McAfee:TST next year It was too much pressure It was too much pressure We've known him since He's 12 years old Throwing these darts At these pubs Yeah Okay He's finally started to wear He was not winning I would bet on him He can't lose After Manchester, what happened in Manchester with Van Veen? They were booing him everywhere. Let alone Liverpool and his home country. I mean, it truly is a glorious season. Yeah, it was. Okay, let's move along. I mean. 19. Let's remember that when we're judging these darters. Just a young pup. Wiz kid. I'm just telling you, the fact that he is that good, that young.

1:22:28Imagine by the time he's like 35. Yeah, but he's 117.

1:22:31Pat McAfee:I think it's a long, hard road in the dart game. I don't know how long this career. Yeah, well, Bunting has done truly tremendous. You're right, you're right. Bunting has paved the road for him. He knows who to follow. No, Gout has gotten a lot of these dogs. That's good when paved the road. Bunting's been in the game the longest, dude. He sticks to kebobs, and he doesn't kind of stray the path to steak. All right, let's get. I can think of some other things that would get him as well. Like what? Premier League darts, great season. Great season. Congrats to Luke Littler. Man. And now we're on.

1:23:03Hey, by the way, now we're on to the World Cup of Darts. No, we are not.

1:23:06Pat McAfee:we are on to go into the insider club because we were supposed to be there about 15 minutes ago and Luke Littler took over the discussion happy we could learn about potentially the future goat of darts but let's learn about the leagues that we obviously get a chance to chat about from the people that know the leagues better than anybody else it's time to go inside with insiders only let's start with the NBA ladies and gentlemen joining us now senior NBA insider for ESPN Shams Roya sorry we had to get that dart conversation in. We appreciate you bobbing and weaving with us. Let's get to NBA inside information.

1:23:40Pat McAfee:What should we lead off with? The anti-tanking proposal that the NBA put together. Mitchell Robinson's pinky. Any other news? You kind of take it from here. Let us know what the hell we need to know happening inside of your league. You see that? Yeah, let's start. First of all, I do want to say congrats, Pat. I know Midas is at home watching with Sam and baby girls, so congrats to you. This is the first time I've been on since you had baby Midas. Thank you, Sean. Tom's very kind of you to do that publicly. Also, Midas will see this later and we'll thank you. Okay, so we appreciate that. I think we should start exactly with the news of today, which is Mitchell Robinson.

1:24:15He had surgery for a broken fifth metatarsal, so his right pinky finger. And this happened earlier this week. Unclear whether it happened on the court, off the court, but he did suffer this fracture in his pinky finger. and he underwent successful surgery from my understanding and he now will have a basically a five six day rehab period before game one of the NBA finals the biggest news though from that is that he fully plans fully expects to play in game one of the NBA finals on Wednesday in either Oklahoma City or San Antonio I'm told he's gonna wear a brace on his entire right hand don't know how big, how small, what that'll look like.

1:24:59I'm sure there'll be other wrapping on it as well. But he will be playing through basically a broken hand in the NBA Finals. He's not a guy that's known for his shooting and his scoring. But, of course, defensively, blocking shots, rebounding, a lot of threats.

1:25:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, obviously, A.J. Hawk has on tape, I think, a wrap of tape around him with an interception somehow doing that. Fifth metatarsal, you said, is that on the finger is that in the hand here is that up here do we know where it's at uh pinky finger so it's in the finger it's not like the outside part of the hand here because if it was outside part of the hand then the whole hand glove would make more sense from my understanding it's like literally like this yeah that's yeah yeah there you go right okay so you once you said fifth metatar so i don't want to say hey i've hung around a training room because i got nothing else to do and people were in there and they had great attitudes that's where we hang out but as soon as you said that i wonder especially if you said he's gonna have a full hand thing that's a little bit different than out here i think down in here a little bit different because then it is literally everything if we get a little clarity on that is that what that is yeah i believe it is it's it's more so like down here so like connecting to your wrist so that would be more of a hand descriptor than a pinky descriptor right wow but it is the fifth one which i guess if you're europe one, two, three, four, five.

1:26:23It is the pinky, though. That is the area that obviously was affected however the injury occurred. That's the area that obviously was affected. And, you know, he's going to put on wrapping, brace, probably a big brace. Curious how much padding there will be with that. But, you know, yes, he's not a shooter. Yes, he's not a scorer. But there's, you know, a lot that you need, obviously, your right hand for that's his dominant hand. Lobs, catching rebounds, blocking shots, getting through screens, sliding defensively, getting your arm in the passing lanes. I hope it's a club. So it's a lot. I'm sure that right arm will be waving.

1:27:02Could he just do a brace that's like an additional eight inches? Bingo. Of a hand. Yeah, so he could just. Like the sliding glove in baseball.

1:27:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, like the drills where they hold up the brooms. So he's basically got a broom on top of his. Could he do that? Yeah, is there a limit to how far extra the brace can go? Right. Because I heard when it's eight inches off, it's better for the metacarpal. By the way, the metatarsal is in your foot. So the metacarpal is in your hand. That was on us. We're learning a lot here in real time. But I do wonder what brace you're choosing. You know what? I just learned something. I just metacarpal. Okay, got it. That's what it is. Wake up, Sean. Check your store. Sean, have you not been cooking for us?

1:27:43You need to maybe figure that whole thing out.

1:27:47Pat McAfee:What we're assuming, though, regardless of what is broken, I do think this is different than this. Yes. So if we could get some clarity on that, I think that would be good. But all indicators are he's playing and he's not going to miss any games in that the New York Knicks. Yeah, I was told definitively that he is going to be playing in game one of the NBA finals. And, like, unless there's some setback that occurs between now in game one of the finals, he's going to be playing. And so I think everyone around the Knicks is expecting that. And again, the fact that he is known as a defender and a rebounder, that does give him some ability here.

1:28:23Just put on a brace and get yourself out there. Do we want to get into the anti-tanking right now? Or are we still?

1:28:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, go ahead. If you want to hit it right now, I don't know how long it's going to take. It is feel good Friday. Yeah, that's a lot. It is a lot. Okay, so is that exactly what we've already talked about? If you're a top three team, you get less balls. if you're four through whatever, you get more balls. It's not a desirable thing to be trying to lose. The only real question now is what I kind of ask Adam Silver. It's like, what if you are actually like the worst team, though? Like, then you kind of get punished. And he's like, yeah, well, then you should get relegated, but we can't do that. You got to figure it out.

1:28:56Pat McAfee:So I like that they're thinking about how to fix it. What is the overall reaction from your standpoint from around the league about this becoming the new norm? Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's overwhelmingly like, this is the end-all, be-all solution, right? That's why the NBA has basically made it clear that this will be at least through the 2029 NBA draft. And after that, they're all going to reevaluate it. The owners, the GMs, the league office itself, and they'll figure it out. But I do think that there clearly wasn't enough support. This is a 29-1 vote overall yesterday at the Board of Governors meeting with all the owners.

1:29:32And so moving forward now, yeah, the biggest thing, 14-16, as far as the lottery expanding. And it's going to include the play-in tournament teams now as well. And the loser of the 7-8 play-in tournament slot. But the biggest thing is the relegation zone. So the bottom three teams are now going to have less lottery balls for the number one overall pick. And so in American pro sports, that's unprecedented. You're basically punishing the losing, the very worst teams, the very losing most teams in this league. The loser is losers. Yeah, we got it. And trying to incentivize winning. So I think two things you're trying to accomplish here.

1:30:15One is you're trying to make it clear. We don't want teams to lose. And so now when teams go into a season, there's no incentive to be losing. And so you're not going to be seeing teams go into a year already jockeying for the bottom, at least not on paper. And then there's a lot of other restrictions. Traded picks has become a bigger thing, right? If you have a top eight protected pick, then you're going to try to, quote unquote, tank enough so you keep that top eight protected pick. Well, now these lottery odds are flattened. So between four and ten, you have as much chance to get a top pick as the next team.

1:30:54And so there's no incentive to be able to jockey for those lotteries. You're not really accomplishing anything. So to be able to get rid of the incentive for tanking, I think that's what the league went into it with. but key points now you're not going to be able to draft number one in back-to-back years and you're not able to have a top five pick in three consecutive years so that means seems like the Oklahoma City Thunder from a decade ago with Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden etc would not exist under this this framework the Spurs as we know them with Wemby, Stephon Castle, Dylan Harper they wouldn't exist under these new rules so how will this now shape the league I think everyone is keeping a close eye on yeah they certainly will it's a good time to have

1:31:34Pat McAfee:your team already made. If you're trying to make your team right now, this might be a tough couple few years as we try to figure it out. But remember, it doesn't matter how many balls you have. Because only one ball is getting picked anyways. The Mavericks. And we haven't seen it really benefit the teams it's supposed to. It's a lottery. Anytime you go into a scratch-off, I guess there's a chance you're going to lose. It feels like the loser-ist losing teams haven't really won as of late. So they have to fix it a little bit. Hopefully the product is better on the court every year. I will say, I will say, the last year of the tank, you have the two bottom teams winning, though, right?

1:32:07Like, Washington got the number one pick, and then Utah got the number two pick. So, the last year of the tank, before these new anti-tanking rules, and they get the number one and number two pick, it is a very coincidental thing as we go into the anti-tanking rules era of the NBA.

1:32:22Pat McAfee:We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Sean Sharron. From basketball, let's go ahead and drop the K and the T. Ladies and gentlemen, from baseball, the senior MLB insider and pundit at ESPN the face of a generation for an entire sport of our America's pastime Jet Passing Yeah, Jet! Just Griffey, I like that Old Mariners colors too How about it? I like that Listen, this is on my friend Jamie Montrum runs Breaking Tea You can get this, you can get old Keith Hernandez gear You can get everything It's comfortable, beautiful Ken Griffey's the best man it's one of the things I love about baseball guys the guys who you grow up watching still even in my 40s I just have this connection to and whether it's seeing Ken Griffey at a ballpark still or running into Randy Johnson guys who you grew up with you are going to have that affinity to it it's why I'm frankly jealous of some of the younger fans these days getting to watch Shohei Otani and Aaron Judge and Jacob Mizorowski and these transcendent type players.

1:33:41It's incredible.

1:33:41Pat McAfee:I didn't hear Skeena there, but I know you meant Skeena. Sal Stewart. Sal Stewart's nice. Hey, can you hop back on this call? We need you to change the setting of your AirPods to stop with the fade in. Does that make sense? I'll figure it out. so yes we're gonna handle this yeah so we the beginning of your statements we don't hear and then we it fades in and i think that's because they don't want you to interrupt it's the airpods are too smart for their own good i've had to deal with this a couple different times it'll fade you in and then whenever you get up if anybody else makes a noise guess what they want you to be super considerate so it drops you back down and then guess what it's gonna take a little bit to get back up into the conversation again so we need to fix that on our in, I think.

1:34:26Pat McAfee:But also, I think there is a setting on your side.

1:34:31Pat McAfee:Didn't hear any of that. We didn't hear any of the lead in there. Jet passing. That doesn't seem like a setting that would do you much good. I think it's for when you're in a public place and you're on a call with a bunch of people. So if there's a lot of noise... We've got to be on mute. Yeah, but then whenever you come back in, I think it's like... So before I start speaking i need to say for like the first three seconds i'm just going to say mumbo jumbo and then get to what i want yeah exactly i think it's like a la la la la la la la la la la la la la hey yeah i was thinking and then but by the time you say the pause in between you're back down at zero true so you gotta fade that got an inclined treadmill aj this thing whoo i want to beginner level of this thing nordic track big hoss i was at 23 yesterday what 23 this thing with more to go you got like a you got a serious like commercial legit one like you're climbing yeah me and zito potentially got uh influenced into buying this one you know well i was speaking about incline uh walking you know because i guess that is the new uh right and i enjoy that and i do kind of want to go do a mountain i kind of would like to do it so i'm kind of like getting into that type of stuff i'm like i heard it's good beneficial or it gets jacked up obviously keep the legs what they are going to let the fat burn off you get ripped and you just gotta walk up so we say that publicly phones pick that up all of a sudden this thing shows up i'm the inclined treadmill basically and it says here come it is this thing's a mountain i have no huge screen huge gigantic screen the thing is heavy as shit and that thing and then the handlebars like whenever you're standing on it and it's flat, you can't do it.

1:36:16Pat McAfee:This thing just drops you up there and you're just literally hanging on a ledge like you're Alex Honnold. That's literally what you feel like as you're going on there. That's what I envisioned Jet passing as he was talking there. It was the beginning and the end. We're hanging on to the top and then he goes right back down there. We've got to get him off the mountain. We've got to get him to a fucking plateau. Yeah, exactly. When we just hear him. We're working on it still. Might have him just pop him out. Maybe we got the other guy real quick. That one, you know, kind of happened. We should have him pop it out, but that might be going through his computer, and then we got to figure that in time.

1:36:51Another can of worms. Just a setting.

1:36:53Pat McAfee:Could you just bump him? Hey, good run. We're bumping baseball right now? Yeah, land the plane. We'll gas you up next week. Emergency landing, yeah. Well, it's kind of like a little show, though. He took the jet up. He was there. Hey, my buddy. This is my buddy's name. Had to eject. Griffey, old players are cool, man. Randy Johnson. They love the unit. All right. Bird strike. Eject, eject. Ladies and gentlemen, that was Jeff Passage. Yeah, Jeff.

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1:38:32Pat McAfee:All right, let's pivot from inside a baseball and inside a basketball. Let's go inside of... Okay, we're not in there yet. Uh-oh. The door's still shut on the insiders. You working out? Always, Hako. You in the middle of Zumba? Ladies and gentlemen, from the baseball world, let's go inside with Jeff Hassan. Yeah, Jeff! Woo! Nope. No. Thank you so much. See you later, dude. You're the best. Thanks, Jen. Jetpack. We're bumping baseball. We're bumping baseball. I don't like that at all. It's going to be a lot of talking about what we're going to talk about in that situation, so we can have Jen on a thousand more times.

1:39:15That's a good point.

1:39:15Pat McAfee:Okay, so what Jen was going to bring up is this week in baseball is a big deal because the players introduced their first proposal of what a deal could look like, and then MLB also introduced their first proposal of what a deal could look like. obviously the institution of a salary cap being pitched by mlb is a massive ordeal in the baseball world the players their pitch their proposal obviously keeps this thing with whatever salaries owners want to pay that's what they're allowed to pay we actually need some punishments for owners that aren't participating we need some rewards for owners that are trying their absolute best so kind of two opposite ends of the coin whenever you think about the cap in the no cap and i think this is getting into an era now where fans are a little bit more business savvy i think with how leagues work and i'm only saying that strictly because of how the nfl works where it feels like everybody kind of understands the cap how much money's left on the cap who you can spend who you can't spend why guys are getting cut guaranteed money versus non-guaranteed money money that's kicked down the future the salary cap gymnastics i feel like that's all a part of the nfl conversation so i'll be eager to see the public's reaction to the players and to the league in their proposals because I think the players$150 million is what they wanted to be at least spent.

1:40:31Pat McAfee:And then MLB, their proposal, not a counter, and these are both just first proposals, not counters to each other. They're just, this is how we would like to start this entire thing. They came at$171, so that was actually more money than what they thought. But obviously the cap at$245.3 million is less than the$400 million that the Dodgers are spending and the Mets, I believe, are up in$380 or something like that. so it's a uh this is certainly this is a monumental kind of conversation that's taking place i think there's more free agencies earlier free agencies that are possible for players like there's a couple other things that the mlb are like have never really given up who are now thinking about putting in negotiation i assume the players are thinking about all things as well but i think there has always been a pretty firm stance of we're not doing a salary cap so i think mlb is going to have to figure out how to get players to understand that the cap is going to be good for the league good for players and inevitably not that much money is disappearing over the long haul of anything so that's an interesting dynamic yeah but we can't have a work stoppage no definitely not and that's i think that's how everybody feels right now is we cannot have a work stoppage baseball is hotter than it's ever been and it's hotter because there's been a lot of changes that have been made to the sport that people never thought that baseball would ever make and now here we are in a good spot yeah exactly and and we've talked about this a bunch and like tony said Like we will hear about this.

1:41:50I mean, these are just the first proposals from both sides. So we'll hear a lot about this over the next several months through the season. But that is the big thing. It's like the players are very far apart on where the owners and the league is. And the owners and the league, it wasn't like, you know, fans are looking at that and saying, like, they're being way too unrealistic. This is bullshit. It's not that. It's just if you're a player and you've never operated under a salary cap, it'd be tough to want to just give in and give that up.

1:42:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's something that every other league's players association looks at and goes, I can't believe you guys still have that. In 2026, that's unbelievable. And I think they take that as a real sticking point of pride, AJ. I do. But at what point, you know, hmm. You don't want to be the group that gave up for you. You don't want to be the group that, hey, oh, you guys are the ones that all of a sudden now we have a salary cap because of you. Is it inevitable? You know? It feels like it. It does feel like we know how leagues kind of go now, right? We're at a more advanced time of leagues just as a whole, like how leagues operate and what leagues are doing and how they're doing.

1:42:52Pat McAfee:So for us in our world, it's like every league basically has some sort of something. Them not having it is, by the way, to the Players Association, unbelievable. That's awful. Have no idea how you've been able to do it. But it feels like at some point it probably will. Will this be the time? We shall see. There will be a tough negotiation that shall happen. Let's pivot away from baseball. Shout out to Jet Pass. Shout out to Jet Pass. Shout out to Jet Pass. Thank you, Jet, for all that information. Let's go to football, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. Schefter, sorry we made you wait there a little bit.

1:43:18Pat McAfee:We're trying to figure out the AirPods for Jet Pass, and thank you for free-earing it for us here on this glorious wrap-up Feel Good Friday. In the NFL, big deals, big things that happened this week that we need to kind of point out in our weekly wrap-up here, Schefter, in your eyes? Well, I think you saw some guys. First of all, there were some injury updates that I think were problematic and also encouraging. We saw Daniel Jones back on the field for the Indianapolis Colts. We saw Patrick Mahomes back on the field for the Kansas City Chiefs. We saw other players that all of a sudden there were injuries that emerged, like Bucky Irving is dealing with a shoulder injury and isn't going to be ready until later this summer in training camp, which I'm not sure how many people knew he even had off-season shoulder surgery.

1:44:09We have the Jaguars running back Chris Rodriguez, who they signed to replace Travis H.N., who went to New Orleans, and he's dealing with a foot injury right now. So he obviously isn't back on the field. So when these teams assemble for their OTAs, inevitably you get updates on certain players and their availability or lack thereof. In the case of some players, it's encouraging. and in the case of others, it's not so encouraging. And then, of course, you have the Josh Jacobs story. That was probably the headline of the week with him being arrested, jailed, and then freed on bond and let go there, and they're still deciding whether or not to charge him.

1:44:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, there's been obviously statements that are polar opposite of each other in the entire situation. We'll follow along with your Twitter account alongside juniors as well. I think that was big in the NFL world. You and Rap were on TV together. We appreciate you doing that in prime time. you, uh, you, you're going to get a Nobel peace prize for that pet. Is that how that works? Wow. You guys were at war. Is that, is that how that works? I don't know. It's vastly overstated, but again, you know, you, you put us on there the first time you brought it together, you know, you, you are the, uh, Menachem Bagan of, uh, sports.

1:45:23Yes.

1:45:24Pat McAfee:Good pull. Good pull. Okay. I definitely know who the fuck Menachem is and I want to let him know her. know. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. It was an honor to be compared to everything that you were able to accomplish. Go ahead, AJ. What's that? You don't know Menachem Began? I just said I clearly knew. Didn't I just say that? We all know, Chef D. We all know Menachem Began. Arnwar Sadat. Yeah, those guys. Yeah. Arnwar Sadat. Is it Shinzu? Yeah, Sunzu. Is that what we're talking about? Basically like the modern day They came after Sun Tzu a bit Really? Who are these? Who are you referring to, Shefty, for people that maybe don't know who either of them are?

1:46:12Menachem, former leader of Israel former leader of Israel, they were forging a peace treaty between the two sides Oh jeez

1:46:22Pat McAfee:Okay Let's dive into politics, Shefty We might as well Thanks for coming, Shefty Ha, ha, ha. You are the greatest, Chef. Thanks, Chef D. Thank you. Thank you. Chef D, hey, are the Texans going to pay C.J. Stroud? What's going on? I picked up his fifth-year option. What's the deal there? Is he getting paid before the year starts? My guess is he does. That's my guess, that they've been paying their players, and if I had to guess and bet on the Texans and how they handle it, I would say that C.J. Stroud gets paid this offseason, and I would say by the time the season begins, CJ Strat has a new deal.

1:47:00That's my guess. That's my hunch. We'll see if it plays out. He got his haircut this week. That was big too. At least he showed a new haircut to people. I thought it looked very good. CJ looked very sharp there with that new haircut.

1:47:12Pat McAfee:I agree completely. I appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for the compliment. We're always looking for peace, baby. We appreciate you being a piece of our life. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Schefter. Yes, Schefter! Before we get out of here, it's time to have a big-time conversation here. There's a lot going on for college sports, and there's a man that is a former Indianapolis Colt offensive lineman who is basically in the middle of a lot of projections on how it could potentially work with what he has done down in Texas Tech in beautiful Lubbock, Texas, a oil tycoon, a sports lover.

1:47:47Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, Texas Tech legend, Cody Campbell. yay cody how you doing cody hey great good to see you guys thanks for having me on okay people are wondering if you're still doing the oil thing we got no cowboy hat do you have a belt buckle do we have any cowboy boots do we got any like real ranching shit going on right now or what what's uh kind of two eagles hold on i got the double eagle over the shoulder there we go okay yeah okay i didn't see that i apologize we are back to completely ranching how are you doing cody life good down there everything's good down here it's great in texas okay so let's you need to come visit us more.

1:48:22Pat McAfee:I agree. I completely agree. I had time in my life. I don't know how many tortillas we're throwing around, but I'm ready to throw around more if we have to do that. Cody, you're in the middle of a lot of things right now. Okay. So let's dive into all of them. Let's talk about what's going on with the Senate Commerce Committee. I believe next Wednesday, there's a vote being held to kind of put into motion. I don't know if it's called the SCORE Act or what exactly it is, but you and a team of very, very fine folks in sport and also from both political parties, I believe there's two Democrats on this and two Republicans on this as well, are trying to get something to put kind of like the NCAA kind of back in charge.

1:48:57Pat McAfee:Can you kind of lay out what's about to happen and what college sports could potentially look like here rather soon because of what you guys have pieced together? Yeah, you bet. We've had some great developments over the last few days and months leading up to it. So the president formed a roundtable, and Randy Levine, who's the president of the New York Yankees, and I co-chaired that council and led an effort of basically outsiders, business people, professional sports owners, media people, conference commissioners, you name it. We talked to hundreds of student athletes and tried to help Congress to come up with a solution that makes sense to resolve the problem of college sports.

1:49:39And so what has resulted from that, after working with Senators Cantwell and Cruz, who are Democrat and Republican, along with Senators Schmidt and Senator Coons, again, Democrat and Republican, is that the Protect College Sports Act was introduced this week. And so this is the most comprehensive, best bill that's been released on college sports reform. It does so much to protect and save the sports. this bill is a pro-athlete bill and it is an anti-chaos bill. And, you know, I've been working on this issue for about five years and I've never been so optimistic that we may actually have a solution to solve the problems.

1:50:20You know, this is very important to me. I know it's very important to you. It impacts a lot of people's lives. It impacts a lot of communities. It impacts a lot of institutions. And to put it plain and simply, we are trying to bring rules and control back to the sport and end all the chaos that's causing the problems it's causing. We're trying to resolve the financial issues that are taking down the Olympic sports and the women's sports. And this bill effectively does that.

1:50:47Pat McAfee:Okay, so tell me a little bit more about why this bill is the right bill and why you're optimistic about this and the Protect College Sports Act as opposed to the SCORE Act. So this, if I'm reading this right and learning right from conversations with multiple people involved, I believe Coach Saban also involved in this. I believe Coach Urban Meyer, like all everybody that there's a lot of people that care mightily about ball. This man cares mightily about college football. I mean, he he commits his entire college sports as a whole, not just football. I mean, Texas Tech softball team right now going crazy.

1:51:16Pat McAfee:I think all their sports are going to go because of the amount he and others have invested into his school. But I think he also, a former professional athlete as a whole, understands what the player's perspective is in this as well. And I think the big thing, what is the counter argument? Like, you guys are going to limit what athletes are able to do or the athletes are... Who's opposing it? Who opposes this? What is the counter and why would this not get passed? This is empowering the NCAA to be able to enforce rules again, basically. But the rules are different than what the rules used to be.

1:51:43Pat McAfee:The rules are also stated in this, what the modern world could look like, right? And who would be against this in the entire field? To be very clear, we're going to preserve the right for the players to continue to get paid. And they're going to get paid. And I firmly believe they should be paid because they create a lot of value. But it also makes sure that the rest of the system is able to survive. It ensures that there's enough funding there for women's programs and Olympic sports, which don't make money because we all know that football is the only sport that produces income. And so, you know, we have to make sure that income stream remains there and there's enough of it to cover everything else or else we're going to start to see more and more of what we're seeing every day.

1:52:23Like you guys saw a couple weeks ago, Arkansas cut its tennis programs. You know, even schools in big conferences like the SEC are having financial difficulties. And so we're trying, we're resolving issues like that. We're also going to stop the chaos that's been going on with the transfer portal. You know, control the conditions in which people can transfer. So you get one free transfer, and then if you graduate you can transfer again. If your coach leaves you can transfer again. But if you transfer a second time for no reason, you have to sit out a year just like you used to have to when we were playing.

1:52:58And so it seems like a very fair resolution there. Eligibility-wise, we're not going to have these guys playing for seven, eight, nine years anymore. It's five years to play. No one will register at yours. You get five full years of eligibility. That's in the bill. To protect the players, there's a ton of stuff in there about player health, safety, and welfare. There's money provided for their post-sport care so that they can make sure their injuries are taken care of. We're going to regulate the agents because these agents have been out there taking advantage of these young kids. You know, we've seen situations where agents are charging 25 percent commissions on these kids.

1:53:35Future earnings. Future. Absolutely. Yeah, it's been it's been absolutely predatory. And we got to think about the age of these young people. They don't know what they're getting themselves into. They don't know what they're signing. And so we got to take care of them. And that's what this thing does is it takes care of the athletes and it protects the system and it preserves it for the long term. But I think as important as anything, this is what I've learned as I've worked in Washington, is we had to find a solution that is actually politically passable. Because, as you probably know, we have to get 60 votes in the Senate in order for a bill like this to pass.

1:54:06So it has to be bipartisan. And so we have to try to find ways to, you know, kind of toe the line, walk the tightrope a little bit on some politically fraught issues. And we've worked our way through those. And with this bipartisan work, I mean, I can't tell you how hard Senators Cruz and Cantwell worked with our committee to come up with solutions that are digestible on both sides of the political aisle. This is not a political issue. This is not a partisan issue. Everybody loves college sports. College sports is the one institution or one of the very few institutions that bring all Americans together, people that look at different things in all different ways.

1:54:42And so we need to preserve it. It's a cornerstone of our culture. It's an American treasure. And I think everyone understands that. And ultimately, everyone wants the same thing. It's just how do we get there? And this is the most thoughtful bill that's been introduced. It's over 100 pages long. I mean, it's extensive, and it covers a lot. I'd encourage you to go and read it. It's up on Senator's Cantwell and Cruz's website right now. You know, there's a lot to it, but it's very thoughtfully done, very well written. You know, and it provides stability and provides the ability to actually enforce rules, whereas right now, you know, there effectively are none.

1:55:18Pat McAfee:Yep. Nailed it, by the way. I think you just nailed it right at zero. I don't know if you saw the countdown on there. I don't know if you know this. It might just be natural to you, which is why he can – oil's there. That's right. Sniff it out. Yeah, that's why he could do that. There was a countdown on the screen there. You landed your plane there rated 0-0. Incredible work out of you. Genuinely. Phenomenal work. And it sounds like the way you're talking about it, this has been obviously a passion project for you, right? I mean, legitimately, not just you. It feels like everybody involved in this, and you talked about college sports kind of bring everybody together, and it's a unifying thing.

1:55:51Pat McAfee:That's very, very true. It's also a lot of inspiration. My inspiration was to get a college scholarship. I obviously want to be a professional athlete, but I wanted a scholarship. That's what this is going to be. I was trying to get a scholarship. I was trying to get a scholarship playing soccer. That's all we were trying to do there. I think just preserving the feeling that college can still remain college and the amount of passion that you all have to kind of do that, while accepting the modern realities, while also understanding that we have to get Democrats and Republicans to vote on this to make any changes at all because people can bitch forever about both sides.

1:56:25Pat McAfee:Well, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. It's like, well, you have to, like, we have to, we have to get. Yeah. And the thing is, no, nobody's going to be completely happy with everything in it. Like, but we have to come together. We have to compromise, be constructive and, and, you know, come up with a solution like we do in business every day. Unfortunately, Washington doesn't always work that way. They want to be partisan. They want to fight. But the key is that we all come together and push this thing across the goal line. And that's the next step. It goes to the Commerce Committee, the Senate, the House.

1:56:53And, you know, we have the support of the White House. You know, we have great bipartisan support in this thing. I think this is something that's going to get done, and I couldn't be more thrilled about it. Let's go. Love that.

1:57:04Pat McAfee:I love that, too. Good for sport because I think if we can preserve everything that it is while embracing the business and the economy and who's driving the money and everything like that, it's a win-win for all of us. Speaking of win-win for all of us, I don't know if Sark will see it that way. That was awesome with Coach McGuire at the end of the day. Yes, it was. That was incredible. And I like the fact that he was like, Cody Campbell, already called Stephen Jones. We can use AT &T Stadium if we want to do this entire thing. Your thoughts on, obviously, Texas Tech emerging as a superpower of college football.

1:57:34Pat McAfee:Also other sports, but in this particular case, college football. Had the number two overall pick. Obviously have a business set up behind it to be able to secure the NIL stuff for the future. The facility's brand new. The stadium's brand new. Patrick Mahomes is back around. Texas Tech, obviously, massive program in college sports right now. You are a huge piece of that, but you're not the only one. You also know there's others around you. So whenever Coach McGuire here hears what is said about them, you guys, basically, in a way that Sark kind of alludes to, does he say to you, hey, we're answering this fucking guy, and what do you think about it?

1:58:12Pat McAfee:Because he also said, we have Red Raiders that will buy you out of your games if you want to make this happen. And so you obviously had to be briefed before he gave this speech. How do we get to this? And what is the likeliness of this? Because we put together the hypothetical, the hypothetical, and it looks awesome. I mean, we asked draft kings for hypothetical hypothetical odds. If this game was to take place and if Will Hammond was available, the Texas Longhorns would be three to three and a half point favorites, depending on how everything was going. Obviously they are preseason. Mark Schlauble ranked fifth in the country, Texas Tech, Schlauble ranked eighth in the country.

1:58:49Pat McAfee:If this was on Thursday, September 3rd, just a couple days before week one kickoff weekend down there in Baton Rouge for college game day and everything, this could be a stupendous kickoff to a college football season. But, Cody, you and I both know, and we all know, this has never happened in the history of college anything, having a deal happen this quickly. How much are you behind this? What is the likelihood of this potentially happening? and this would be excellent. Is this even legal to happen at this stage of things? Well, so, you know, you and I talk a lot about Texas, but I don't know if you know the difference between bulls and steers.

1:59:26Do you know the difference?

1:59:28Pat McAfee:So the bulls, you know, they kind of go trotting around looking. There's an important physical difference, and this is a family show, so I'm not going to lay it out to you, but I think a lot of your viewers know, and you maybe have some of your guys look it up. but Bebo the Longhorns mascot is a steer and it's become very clear that there are quite a few steers down in Austin and not very many bulls and let me tell you something when Sark opened his mouth and he picked a fight with a bunch of West Texas boys he should have known that he better get ready to pack a lunch because we're ready to strap it on we're ready to spot the ball and we're ready to go so September 3rd, September 5th you name the place we'll be there and we'll go at it cody hell yeah i love everything you just did right there thank you for letting us be a part of that okay thank you for letting us listen to that and also thank you for shaping or shaking up this whole thing a little bit you know because you talking about from a business standpoint saying all right so we just got to make uh we got to make texas state and adeline christian christian happy here we got to make it right with them so hey they're ready to go we already talked to adeline christian and texas state and they're happy to do it so they get you know don't go and and look and we said we paid the buyout for texas you know i know my dad in austin these days but so we'll pay their buyout um and uh and look there's no reason for them for them not to do it we're ready to go and let this is a whole new spectacle that can be sold to networks here i don't know who would be the ones doing the selling because obviously this is big 12 and sec team but this becomes the texas bowl basically uh to kick off college football season if we were to do that thursday night and we just put that out there strictly so that game day could be there as and also you know be on saturday down in baton rouge because that's going to be outrageous i couldn't one of these streaming platforms would love to have that right oh yeah espn that would be hey now we're doing the business aren't we all of a sudden we're doing the business we're getting it done hey yeah absolutely i mean there's a lot of money in it there's a lot of pride in it uh it would be a packed house it would be incredibly I mean, it would be amazing.

2:01:37I mean, why wouldn't we play? We've been talking about playing for five years. They refused to play us because, again, I think they're more steers than they are bulls down there in Austin. By the way, that's a bulls thing. Yeah, it is.

2:01:46Pat McAfee:I've heard. Yeah. Oh, we loved it. We loved the good bull joke and steer joke. These West Texas boys, we're ready to go. We're ready to roll. Let's do it. Boy intact. Yeah, you're the man. All right, big bull down there. We appreciate the hell out of you. You're the best. Good luck, ladies and gentlemen. Cody Campbell. Yeah, Cody. I love that. You have your guys looking up the difference between bull and steer, and they did right here, and it popped up. One can reproduce, one can't. One of them is castrated, one's got big balls. You can guess which one that is. I love that that is how incredible.

2:02:15Pat McAfee:He said Feebo doesn't have any balls. Oh, my God. That's a sark. I love that they just kind of drop their nuts on the table. They can. They can. Cody's NFL offensive lineman knows ball, appreciates ball, happens to become multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple billionaire back where he is from. by being like incredibly... Struck gold. Intuitive. Yeah, a lot of people trying to strike gold in that business. So to be able to do it, obviously, having a little bit of an NFL check to get in helps. But like having to, the way he's had to dodge, dip, dive, and dodge alongside his high school teammate, I think, who's the other eagle of the double eagle.

2:02:55Pat McAfee:Do we remember his name? No, I just remember Dusty Womble, but that's not it. Yeah, but anyways, the double eagle oil, he sold like, I think he sold the same company or at least part of the company like three or four different times for multiple billions of dollars, and he still owns. So it's like he loves Texas Tech. He fucking loves sports. He lives there. He's still young and still has enough, I think, reference point to be able to relate to things that are happening, has a lot of drive. And he thinks that what they've been able to do at Texas Tech is recreatable at other places. And that's why I think he feels so obligated to help.

2:03:30Pat McAfee:But he's getting attacked because it's like, oh, some billionaire wants to try to help out his school. And he's like, yeah, I'm definitely fucking. He's helping out all schools. I'm definitely helping out my school right now for sure. But I would just like everybody else to potentially be able to do what we are able to do right now because we don't need sports just getting axed. He's a firm believer that sports are good, not bad. We need to keep sports as opposed to lose sports. And he brings up Arkansas. He's like, they just lost a sport. They're in the SEC. We can't be having that. That's been one of his sticking points from the last time we talked to him to all of the stuff that he's presented is like, we need to preserve Olympic sports.

2:04:01and we need to preserve women's sports because those are the ones that they have to get rid of because they don't make any money. So, like, yeah, I mean, if he was just, like, some big swing and dick asshole who all he cared about was Texas Tech football, like, he could do that. And he could kind of just say, fuck everything else. I'm going to put all my money into this, but he's not doing that. Yeah, and he also said, like, hey, this doesn't benefit us directly because we are one of the places that could pay as much as we wanted, whereas other schools don't have that kind of luxury that we do.

2:04:32So, like, acting as if this is only for Texas Tech's benefit, like, no. We could – Cody Campbell could literally fund every single team in Texas Tech and they could win a bunch of national championships or you could kind of at least have some sort of guardrails like we've talked about from the beginning.

2:04:47Pat McAfee:Him being optimistic about it passing is crazy because I didn't – I assumed that city wasn't – A lot of steps, huh? Yeah. A lot of steps got to still go through. That's a good question. Like who, what would you say against this bill? I guess like it would be interesting to hear the other side. Like what do you, I don't know. Like why should you, how can you argue to me that a guy should be able to transfer four times in two years? Yeah, I would like to hear the arguments for the, as opposed to just against this one. We'd like to hear the arguments for the other ones that aren't just like new paycheck.

2:05:18Pat McAfee:And it's like, is that paycheck real though? Because we don't have agents that are potentially signing real deals in some situations. They definitely need to protect the players, too. I like that part about it with the agents. There's so much money going around college football now. There's a lot of people making money on fees that are much too high, like he said, predatory, pretty much. NFL, 3 % is the most. Max. That's the max, yeah. That an agent can get from your contract. NBA, I think it's 10, 7. Really? Are those guaranteed deals, really? Yeah, I think it's 7. I think it's maybe up to that or something.

2:05:52Pat McAfee:I don't know, but they have a single digit max too. So I think everybody here is like 20%, 15 % and thinks that's not a lot. Like in Hollywood, I think 15%, 10%, four for NBA. Okay. So NBA is 4%. Okay. Nevermind. It isn't anywhere near what I thought. So I think a lot of people here like 15, 20, 10%, like sales, you get 15 % of a sale or whatever. And like that business, that's normal. For the agency stuff. I think people just think that big numbers, that's not reality in sports. Not for five year contracts. It should not. Now, in marketing, 20 % is a big thing. It's like a common thing. Marketing companies will charge 20 % if they bring somebody like a deal.

2:06:28Like, here you go. Come do this commercial. They will try to get 20%.

2:06:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, and your agents charge anywhere from 10 % up to 20%, depending on this. What are books worth? You know, all that stuff. I've heard the whole layout a couple different times. Sweet. I will pass on that. Sounds great, though. I think that does sound like fun. And then, you know, somebody comes in and goes, different world. You're not in it. If I fucking provide anything, that'd be fucking good, right? Wouldn't that not be good? Huh? Huh? Huh? You got it. Everybody's like, well, he's doing everything now. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think you can do that in this world. He's an absolute menace.

2:07:10Pat McAfee:He really is. Just like that kid from fucking Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. That was incredible. All right. Let's get out of here on some O 'Nos. Here we go. Best part of the week. Here we go. AJ, you know what it is, AJ. This is the all-no train, okay, as we travel through Sports World and point out the things that maybe didn't go exactly as expected. Let's go to the Aqueduct Racetrack. Edgar Zayas, thrown headfirst. It's in the back there. You got to zoom in. Hey, you don't have to zoom in. That's pretty. Hey! That looks like it's out of a movie. The horse, obviously, that he is riding is number eight horse, Glint.

2:07:51Pat McAfee:Now, the owner of Glint says that the number seven horse, Screaming Uncle, clipped the heels as they're passing by and pissed off Glint, which sent, obviously, Zayas to the moon. Now, obviously, very dangerous situation. If he would have ended up any form of hurt or injured or dead, which could have obviously happened, we would not run this. We've been told Ryder is fine somehow. We have no idea. And as you're watching that, you can't help but immediately go, Oh, no! Clint! How normal is that? That horse, so powerful. Running forward. Did he run over him then, too? I mean, that's the other thing.

2:08:27I missed him.

2:08:28Pat McAfee:I think he missed him. He went to the right, I believe. Horse either jumped over or went to the left. But think about how much power you have to have to shrug something forward while you're running full speed. You know, throwing something backwards while you're running full speed, easy. This horse, think of the power of this fucking thing. With your neck, too. To flip forward as you're running full speed. Jeez, how old is this horse? When can I bet on this horse? I like this horse. I really do. I'm happy Edward's healthy. I'm happy he's okay. But allegedly there was a little bit of a clip or some sort of situation, is what the owner of the glint's saying.

2:09:01Pat McAfee:But that's scary stuff. Happy he's okay. But can't help but go, oh, no. Let's go to tennis, shall we? World number one golfer, Yannick Sinner from northern Italy. He was one game away from advancing to somebody that was not ranked, who he was favored by. He was the biggest favorite in 20 years at a major. Minus 10 ,000 at that point right there. I believe it was minus 100 ,000. And Yannick Sinner commits the ultimate competitive sin and collapses. They were showing some lowlights of him. Just watching the ball just kind of get spiked right by him in the fourth set as he's standing on the court.

2:09:43Pat McAfee:Watch this. This guy's number one tennis player in the world. Number one tennis player in the world. Look him down here. He's got some madness skates. Can't move. What are you doing? What? He's got to be pulled his groin or something. He's got crumps. It was 92 degrees at Roland Garros, and Yannick Sinner has struggled in the heat in the past. It doesn't make a ton of sense, like, you know, eat more bananas or something. I think that myth busters kind of got that one. Happens to him a lot, though. There was another major tournament. Bruce, correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, in Australia, it was like 100 degrees, and he basically asked for a medical timeout and was granted it until they closed the roof.

2:10:20But, yeah, he had one game left to win in that third set that he lost 7-5. So truly, truly a just absolutely historic collapse and one of the biggest upsets in tennis history.

2:10:31Pat McAfee:And you can't help but go, y 'all had an ache. Oh, no! Hopefully he gets healthy. Hopefully he figures out those cramps. Yeah. Maybe he just plays with an IV. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Maybe they go from the sky. Maybe they go from the sky, and he's just kind of like, you know. That'd be sick. Cool, and it's just like dangling above him like the dog leashes for the big yards. Oh, yeah. The IV is just kind of going back and forth. Maybe they plug into his back. That's what I was thinking. So then he's just kind of bouncing on this thing where they can get him, you know, hydrated quickly. Like Mad Max.

2:11:03Seems realistic, yeah.

2:11:05Pat McAfee:What do you mean? He's number one player in the world. Let's fucking keep him on the court. Yeah, need him. Can't have him just. can't move people are sending his coaches potions all the time with weird pickle juice garbage in them I'm sure I'll tell you what the pickleback game that people play with the shots I never really understood it like you don't want the aftertaste of that it's like do I want the aftertaste of pickle I don't know that's a nightmare I order my shit without pickles Chick-fil-A no pickle cheeseburger from McDonald's no pickle I love doughless. Stick pickles or all pickles on sandwich?

2:11:43Pat McAfee:Both. I like them separated from my sandwich. Spears and chips. I went through a Spears run, I think, because everybody's talking about how healthy of a snack it is and everything. And it was delightful when it was chilled and had a good crunch and the whole thing. On sandwiches, I think it kind of dominates the taste, and I don't want it. That's understandable. Yeah. I think that's why people do the pickle back stuff. I don't like them on – I don't have them on Chick-fil-A, but I do it on cheeseburgers. Why does the Onyx do the thing of the electrolytes? You know, they throw them out there and you know what I mean?

2:12:12Yeah, it's honey stick.

2:12:13Pat McAfee:Yeah, one of those. Good question. I don't claim him. Why does he do any bonk, you know, the quickest way? Let's go to Russia. Drinking your pee? All these things. Can't have him looking like that. That's our number one player in sports. And it happens a lot, too. You think maybe that's the first time. It's like, no, that guy has dealt with this way too often. He needs to take care of himself. So if we need him, good luck out there. Y 'all can't have you. A lot of people say we don't need him in the back. Well, he was also suspended for a year. We do need him. He took some pee. What did he do?

2:12:47He took steroids.

2:12:49Pat McAfee:Performance enhancing drugs. So he's naturally going to be dehydrated. This guy. That's kind of what I was thinking. We told Perk this the other day. Hey, if you're doing a thing, you got to stay hydrated, bro. Alcaraz is the one. He's just hurt in this tournament. Unfortunate. It's wide open. Okay. Well, good luck to all parties over there in the Roland Garros. the French Open. There it is, oui oui. Let's go to Russia, shall we? International show. Oh, you won. Oh, no. Listen to it in their language.

2:13:20Oh, no.

2:13:28Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

2:13:32Pat McAfee:Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Can't help but go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Shout out to the Russia Cup obviously falling apart. We've seen that way too often. Yeah. It feels like these trophies are either poorly designed or poorly pieced together where the physics don't work for there's too thin of a neck, too big of a head, and just like kind of the science is inevitable that it's going to bust. I don't think we've seen glass shatter like that. No. I mean, that was tough. I'm cold. Hey, before he even lifts over his head, the top is already all cockeyed and not on their flush before he even lifts it up.

2:14:08Someone's got to let him know. Also... An intro bat situation? I guess that is what happened.

2:14:15Pat McAfee:Was it a little heavier than he expected? Yeah, because it was cockamamie. Look at that right there. It goes right through the bottom. Yeah. Now you've got to watch out for glass. Make them out of carbon fiber. 3D print them or something. But still, congrats on winning the trophy. but whenever we see you bust a trophy immediately upon receiving, we can't help but say, Oi, oi, oi! All right, let's hop back on the oh-no train for our final stop. Let's go to Queensland, Australia. It's been called the Oosk, Oklahoma drills. Run it, please.

2:14:53Whoa! Oh, no! Whoa! Oh, no! Wow. Wow. What was that? It's going to have a cheap shot. We rocked him. That's not something you want to condone at RNC.

2:15:06Pat McAfee:Unsportsmanlike. Yeah. Let's see what happens here. Boo! Boo! Would have never expected the sports gods to bless us in such a fantastic way. I'll tell you, the Oosklahoma drills, which we saw just started out like out in a park. Yep. And now they're in an arena. I have no idea which promotion is which promotion, but we want to let them know. We appreciate the fact that this has become their super slap fest. Yeah. This is what they do. And there are some massive collisions. And every once in a while, you'll get somebody that gets a little heated and throws a shot because there's a stalemate. And then the sports gods, the Ooskohoma gods say, excuse me, what is that?

2:15:50Pat McAfee:And then, bang, you get run over. And you look at the guy in the face and you go, oh, no. Lad. What a shot. I think in Australia they'd actually say and one that rhymes with punt. Gotcha. I'm very happy that I did not grow up in an era that had to do that one. But AJ, we know that if you did kill or be killed, he would be the king of the Oos of the Oos, Oklahoma. That's scary to think about those guys doing that. But would you rather have to participate in that or slap fight? That. I'm thinking slap fight. I mean, with your jaw. I'm just saying, I envision a broken neck if someone lowers their head at all in the Ooskohoma drill.

2:16:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, but in the Ooskohoma drill, I think I can navigate where I'm hitting. Sure. In the Slapfest, you're definitely getting one to the jaw. Yeah, I guess you have more control in the Ooskohoma drill. I think you could die in the Ooskohoma drill. You definitely could, but you could also run that to not die. We need weight classes, too. I hope there was weight classes. I think there were. I was looking through the Run Nation Championship 3 card, and I do believe that this is a lighter weight class than some of the big boys. Pretty damn big to me. I mean, Old Buddy did do both the Slapfest and this.

2:17:12Pat McAfee:He did. I mean, to your point about which one would you rather do, this guy did both of them and ended up winning. Congratulations to him. So to the winner, we'd like to say, way to go, Jerome Romy Talaga. Yep, nice. And sorry to Berna, who obviously disrespected the Run It Nation gods. You can't do that. In the Uskahoma drill, you just can't do that. No. You need the gods on your side. You need good mana. It's been like that since the beginning of Oklahoma drills. Yeah. You need the football gods on your side. For us, we are thankful that the sports universe allows us inside of it. This weekend's going to be phenomenal.

2:17:47Pat McAfee:Tonight, the NHL. Let's go ahead and watch that. Oh, yeah. Can the Canes punch their ticket to the Stanley Cup final? We shall see where the Montreal Canadiens fight back in battle. And then obviously there's a game seven this weekend between the San Antonio Spurs and the Oklahoma City Thunder in Oklahoma City. Tyrese Halliburton said the best venue in the NBA, the loudest crowd is in Oklahoma City. Makes you wonder if they're piping in noise at the Tyrese with how loud it is. That's obviously a battle of two teams that don't love each other. Sports should deliver. Golf's happening this weekend.

2:18:19Pat McAfee:Softball's happening this weekend. Baseball's happening this weekend. And football never sleeps. There'll be some sort of drama, especially if we're able to pass this college sports thing. Yeah. Let's have a great weekend. Here we go. Great work in the back this week, boys. Great work, boys. Where's Bruce? Good week, boys. Bruce just went to the bathroom. Bruce! I know. One or two. He said pee, but I didn't know if it was poopy because he was trying to get out so quick. Graphic design, boys. Great work, boys. Great work, boys. Zio, good work. BBC. Good work, Matt. Talks to the table. Way to go.

2:18:56Pat McAfee:Thank you, man. One half of a hammer. Cowboys, AP 10, good work. You too. To all the guests, thank you so much for stopping by. To the commissioners kind of making that happen the other day, we were very grateful. To the industry for inviting us to their four-hour celebration. Yes. We thank you for that opportunity. And to the fans that let us do this for a living, you're the best. To my son Midas, hey, I hope you've heard everybody say Shout out to you, even though I don't think you hear much right now because you are just sleeping, eating, pooping and peeing. Just know that your dad loves you, buddy.

2:19:30Pat McAfee:And to mama, you're an absolute badass. I appreciate the hell out of you. And to Mackenzie, it's been an honor to hang out with you more. And to the sports, thank you for allowing me to do this for a living. It's outrageous that we get to do this. You are the best people on earth. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. And without all of you, we can never do this. It was a pee. It wasn't a poop. Unless that was a quick dump, we shall never know. It was a P. Pretty quick. Good for you, Bruce. Hey, we love you all. Thank you all so much.

2:19:58Pat McAfee:Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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