PMS 2.0 1563 - We Are DraftKings Official, Myles Garrett Traded to the Rams, Adam Schefter, Kendrick Perkins, Brittany McKinney, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

18:15So you have the things public, obviously with Dart, and then Carter coming out saying what he said. Then they hashed it out. They had their conversation. And as a locker room, we're going to have those uncomfortable conversations. Like you said, we kind of always do. And Tlaib, I thought he had a great take on it as well. Look, everybody's not on the same page. You don't see all those things the same way. But when it comes to our job, that's what we're trying to get done. Honestly, I thought they handled it great. Now, did they handle that softball game great? I don't know about that. I like the Patriots one.

18:43Drake May Day was great. Hell, yeah. The shit I'm seeing from the Giants one. On that note, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,

18:49Pat McAfee:senior NFL insider at ESPN, Adam Schefter. Yay, Schefter. Schefter, thank you for – Gentlemen, what's going on? Hey, just hanging. Happy overreaction Monday to you, Bob. Welcome to the DraftKings Thunder Day. Hell, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Brownie's over. Great to see you. Oh, there's a call maybe from the Giants right there. That's a good starting point. Hated that I saw the way Malik Nabors ran the first base. Love that he is confident enough to play in a softball game that he knows cameras are going to be at. This is just like Patrick Mahomes golfing. I think that's an indicator from the person that they feel good about where their recovery is.

19:23Pat McAfee:But after hearing that he had some stiffness and had to get another surgery to clear up some scar tissue, seeing him run like this has made everybody scared to death about what Malik Nabors is going to look like this season. Do you have news to put that fire out, or are our eyes telling us the story about what's about to happen here? I think you watch what you watch, you see what you see, and you know that he's trying to make his way back from a second knee surgery that was done to clean up the scar tissue, address some of the stiffness in there. And I think it's a case where the Giants have said all along, they're hopeful.

19:56That's the word they've used, Pat, hopeful, that he plays on that Sunday night opener against the Dallas Cowboys. But again, I think that they're not counting on him being ready. And it certainly doesn't look like he's close to being ready.

20:14Pat McAfee:Hold the phone, though. Let's hold the phone, please. Do we think these guys are self-aware enough to know, like, hey, if I'm not going to be ready by season, I shouldn't go and do a public display of this? like there's people that are talking to him about whether or not he should be playing as softball there's people talking to scadaboo whether or not he's cleared to do backflips in public spectacles right like i don't know like malik's got to be self-aware enough to know that like hey i'm going to be healthy for the season and i can't do this without re-injuring myself it looks like he is very early in a recovery yeah but that is something that hopefully you're working on every single day and like you can make big steps in like three weeks four weeks five weeks, six weeks of every day doing rehab and stuff like that.

20:54Pat McAfee:I hated seeing it, though. Yeah, I mean, you don't want to see your franchise wide receiver doing that, especially if you're on the path of recovery. I'm sure if you're on the ownership level, even like the head coach. Like, I know the head coaches we played for. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, okay, neighbors is going to be there. He's not taking a hit. He's not doing anything physical. A lot of clapping. God forbid you just trip over. Or he's got to hit a homer so he can jog around the bases and not have a bang-bang play. Yeah, but let's not pivot on our knee much either. That's a whole other thing.

21:27Pat McAfee:That's why the Patrick Mahomes thing for me was such a big deal. Because golf is so much turning at your – baseball, too. That's a lot of knees. You know what I mean? So it's like – as somebody that has had four knee strokes and everything like that, it's like some of the things that these guys are choosing to do after having knee injuries, it's like I think they're very confident. I think they are very confident. But this might just be that big guy. I'm not admitting that. You know what I mean? That might be the way that they start viewing that entire thing. Going back to a locker room culture, by the way, you know, that bit of fire.

22:00Pat McAfee:You know, that whole thing. And that was a great video this weekend. Shout out to that kid. I assume he's going to run a team someday. But I think these guys know that they're going to be okay, hopefully. Scadaboo, completely cleared. That's a big-time backflip. I mean, 61 for the Giants named? John Michael Schmidt. Schmidt goes, oh, my God, as he's flipping in the air right there. Scadaboo, once again, confident enough to do the backflip. Makes me think that he knows his body better than we do. He's 100 % back as well. Are the Giants tighter than they've ever been because the Abdul-Carter, Jackson Dart thing?

22:30Pat McAfee:Are they healthier than we thought maybe they were? They just signed Berrios. No, yeah, right? They just signed Braxton. They sent Braxton over Juju Smith-Schuster and Odell Beckham Jr. Hold on. They still could add to that. They still could add more from those wide receivers. They might not be done yet. Okay, so multiple guys get signed out of a wide receiver. Is John Harbaugh kind of in his bag? How do the Giants feel very positive, I assume, about where they're at, especially with how tight maybe they get the early awkwardness out of the way in John Harbaugh's thing, have to come together tighter than they've ever been because how everybody outside was, you know, Harbaugh could certainly say trying to drive us apart right now.

23:08Pat McAfee:That's the exact opposite of what we need. Young team. Vibes immaculate in New York, it sounds like. and you and Renan both say, is it Juju or Odell Beckham Jr.? If Odell Beckham Jr. is going back to the Giants, that feels like a big deal. That feels like a pretty big deal. Juju as well, obviously, but OBJ going back to the beginning. It would be huge. That would be gigantic. That would be cool. That would be gigantic, Shefty. Is that what you're hearing? Is there a little bit of a lean and maybe OBJ is back? I saw him in that flag football thing. Let's put it this way, Pat. I wouldn't be surprised.

23:36I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

23:38Pat McAfee:Hey, Odell, congrats, man. Go, Odell. He was at the game, right? Yeah. He was there talking to Jackson Dart, I believe. So he's already kind of back in there. Good for him. Congrats to him. Because that's been a long road. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news. Roll.

23:56Pat McAfee:Okay. I would like to say we broke it. No, we broke it, Shefty. Yeah. We did break it. Junior. Oh, no. Junior got it. Junior got it. He saw you on TV. That was the call. He hung up at the beginning. Oh, this is our fault. Junior's going to be so pumped about that. Sorry, Senior. Oh, no. Mine's up. I'm good. Oh, okay, okay. All right, all right, all right. Okay, all right, all right. Let's just make sure. That's awesome. Congrats, Odell, man. Yeah. Here we go. I am happy for him. There was something coming out of the owners' meetings. I think Bruce Brown maybe broke the news coming out of the league meetings in Arizona about Harbaugh and Odell Beckham Jr.

24:31Pat McAfee:I think having a sit-down out there. Bruce told somebody that became national news. Full conversation happened. Renan's co-host, I forget his name whenever they were talking about our show, he ran a clip from our show. We talked about how good Renan looked, and then we said, maybe Odell Beckham Jr. reunion with the Giants co-host immediately goes, that's not happening, but let's move on. Bobby Skinner, I believe. Yeah. Love his moxie. I love Bobby. Bobby Skinner? I like Bobby taking that shot because it did seem far-fetched. But you, as a Giants fan who had access to the league meetings, saw Harbaugh and Odell Beckham Jr.

25:02Pat McAfee:sitting together, and your description was like, they were really in it, man. It felt like it was a real convo. You've been wanting this kind of since the beginning and have been reporting about it, Bruce. what are your thoughts on it now that it's actually happening and uh if somebody needs to rock a baby let me know um yeah i'm fired up you know awesome vet leadership in in a wide receiver room that you know might be a little shorthanded to start the year here um but yeah it should be should be awesome maybe we can get you know in a fight with the kicking net maybe spike a helmet a couple times week three against the commanders um you know things like that.

25:36And then, you know, if we get 500 yards and four touchdowns, it's an awesome year out of OBJ, back where it all started.

25:43Pat McAfee:Who's OC over there? Oh, no. It's on Matt Jackson Dart. Hey, don't you worry about that. Matt Nagy, right? Yes. Are they going to make it through practices? Because it sure sounds like they're not... What do you mean? A couple of freak Achilles injuries. Not a great way to start OTAs. But I won't call John Harbaugh's fall if that's what we're insinuating. No. I mean, there's a conversation from months ago where Zay Flowers talked about hardball practicing being real, real. And I don't, you know, obviously anytime injuries happen, everything's going to get talked about. But the Achilles is a scary one.

26:17Pat McAfee:And obviously we hope nobody for the rest of time has it. Let's move to some other news stories, shall we? The big one of the day. It almost was the title of the day. Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, Schefter, your haircut looks fantastic for A.J. Brown Day. What is your tweet looking like that's saved in your drafts right now with the A.J. Brown jersey swapped to Boston? New England, if you will. What is that looking like? Is it going to be a first round, a second round? Is it going to be a player? Are they going to trade a wide receiver? When should I expect your notification to come through my phone for A.J.

26:48Brown being traded to New England today? I think that that's probably a later in the day story that two sides as of this weekend had not connected at all in recent weeks. And so it was a situation where they have to come in today, discuss the deal, finalize terms. As we've said all along, I always thought that that deal would include a first-round pick in 2028. We'll see if that's what they settle in on later today. The trade could not be processed until after 4 o 'clock today, so I think that's probably a rough time of when this might be coming down later on. But yeah, it's still tracking to happen, and I think in the next 24 hours, we'll get A.J.

27:31Brown in that jersey you're looking at right there.

27:33Pat McAfee:No other teams? Because wasn't it said that maybe the Rams were interested this past offseason in A.J. Brown? And, you know, I know Stephon Diggs is still out there. Is it considered Stephon Diggs is going to get signed as soon as the A.J. Brown stuff gets finalized? Like kind of how do those two tie together? And are there any other teams that could potentially come in and, you know, maybe offer something better than the Patriots could? I don't see that happening. Anything is always possible. But I think this is essentially a one-team race right now. I think it is going to be New England. I think that the two sides have to finalize this trade, and I expect that that will happen and that he'll be a New England Patriot back with Mike Vrabel, who he thrived under in Tennessee.

28:13Obviously, he's going to want to go play for Vrabel again. Vrabel's going to want A.J. Brown again, and I think both sides will get their wish at some point here in the next 24 hours.

28:20Pat McAfee:We remember that draft night whenever A.J. Brown got traded, and Vrabel just pushes the chair away from the table, stands up, turns around, lives comes back and then the Titans of Rabo era just kind of slowly went down this way yep how's it going I don't trust anybody I don't like anybody I'm going to Patriots Hall of Fame what am I going to say his place is so much better than other places hold on to it for as long as you fucking can up here life is terrible at other places he gets back into the building they all get mad at him boom you're fired see you later then he goes to Cleveland Browns for a year they had him in the building yeah then he somehow becomes the New England Patriots head coach and they go to the Super Bowl.

29:01Then that offseason, a lot will happen. Yeah, church softball. Mayday. Boston Children's.

29:08Pat McAfee:We're not talking about Mayday. Yeah, Mayday. Mayday. Nice one. Go and go. Mayday. Mayday. It was. That's just everybody outside the building. That's exactly what it was. It was great. But it sounds like that all seemingly love, love, love, love, love, mistake. We all. Let's move. People screw up. And they're going to win maybe football games again up there. Seems to always work out. Now, let's talk about a place where it never seems to work out. Go ahead, Tom. Shefty, we have Miles Garrett trade smoke again. Mary Kay Cabot has tweeted that the trade winds are circulating again around Miles Garrett.

29:39First, we had his note and request to be traded. He did not. He got a new contract. And then they revised that contract or reworked that contract, I should say, and people said, oh, that's a lot more tradable. And then nothing happened. And now we are again on June 1st, and the trade winds are kicking up again for Miles Garrett. Have you heard the same exact things before? Or the Browns are saying that's definitely not happening or anything new around there? Well, again, I would go back to what happened when we initially reported that his contract was reworked. I had a team's callman. They're like, they're going to trade him eventually.

30:11They're going to trade him eventually. That was the opinion of some teams. The Browns all along have been adamant that they're not trading him. So other teams have said at some point in time they expect him to be traded. And the Browns have said, we're not trading him. And that's kind of where we're at right now. Very interesting.

30:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's very interesting, obviously, because he's coming off a record-breaking year, obviously, in his prime. He's getting paid a lot of money, but a lot of pass rushers are getting paid a lot of money now because of the deal that he was able to work with the Cleveland Browns. Shout out to the Browns doing that all the time at every position, seemingly. Let's move away from there. Let's go to a couple teams that have big days today. Go ahead, D-Bud. Yeah, talking about guys getting paid a lot of money. Dak Prescott, Joe Burrell, both of their teams, Bengals and Cowboys, they start OTAs today.

30:50Any news coming out of either one of those buildings? Well, I would say that with the Cowboys, I'd be surprised if George Pickens were in attendance there today. I know he signed his franchise tender, but it's a voluntary OTA. He still does not have his long-term deal. I haven't heard whether he is or isn't there, but I would be very surprised if he were there. Again, he wants that deal. He wants a deal somewhere, whether it's Dallas or if they're willing to trade him. Nothing's happened. So I would think that as long as things are voluntary, he's not going to volunteer to be there. He's just not going to do those things unless he gets the contract he wants, and that'll be a recurring issue, I would think, throughout the offseason here.

31:30When there's a mandatory minicamp, he's contractually obligated to be there and would have to be there. Voluntariotes does not have to be there and would think that he's not going to be there. The Bengals, obviously, a lot of emphasis on their defense during the offseason. They really look like on paper they've improved that unit. if Joe Burrow is back, if he's healthy if he's playing the way that he normally does this team I would put up against just about anybody in the AFC they are a Super Bowl sleeper in my mind, the schedule is set up favorably, Dexter Lawrence should make a world of difference on this team with plays like that, the pressure he gets up the middle on quarterbacks that's what he does and so I think Cincinnati is primed for a big year good for them, a lot of drama

32:17Pat McAfee:obviously around them and then now it feels like we like their team more than ever. And Tia and Jamar are going to go crazy. Okay, Joe's going to go crazy. Yeah, okay. Who's blocking for them? Who they add in the O-line? Don't worry about that. It's every year with this team. They're primed for a big year. They got good defense, though, even though they let go of the guy. They got one guy. That's a lie. That's a lie. They got one guy. They brought Dexter Lawrence in. He's a good player. Great player. What about this thing? What about this thing? Hey. Sick. All over since the game. You know what team he was on last year?

32:47Big Dex Daddy in Cincinnati. You know where Dex was playing last year? Yeah, they weren't good. That defense was – Four games. He's fighting back from a gruesome elbow injury. What about the year four? Okay. So he gets hurt too.

32:59Pat McAfee:No, well, last season is anomaly. You go back a couple years, he's the guy. Everybody forgets about those times. He's going out to Cincinnati. Well, man, you know, he's starting with the man in the mirror. He can really make a change. Every year with this team. And I'm happy he's – Every freaking year, man. Big Dex Daddy in Cincinnati. Thank you, Connor. You don't think that's going to go crazy? Yeah, right. I'm a believer. I'm a believer in Joey B and the crew over there until we see them inevitably fail again. And if they do, we've got to remember only one team wins the Super Bowl every year.

33:24Pat McAfee:Now, will that team be the Minnesota Vikings? Last week, Ty Schmidt said, and I quote, the football gods will never let the Minnesota Vikings win a Super Bowl in my lifetime. Ty has a question for you, Schefter. Yeah, and I can answer that. That really wasn't that hot of a take because they haven't won a Super Bowl ever. So before my lifetime as well. So that's nothing crazy. So you kind of left off. Yeah, a little bit. And no, they're not going to win a Super Bowl this year. But Shefty, just curious, they did hire Nolan Teasley, who was the assistant GM of the Seahawks. What can you tell us about this guy?

33:56And also, how involved was KOC in this decision? Very involved. Was in on everything. Met all the candidates. Big voice. Obviously, he's going to be working closely with Nolan Teasley. Nolan Teasley had a great reputation in Seattle. I think he was one of those unsung heroes that was involved in everything that that team did that helped them win the Super Bowl title this year. The Seahawks valued him, wanted to keep him. They lose him. They do get back two third-round draft picks now. So we'll see how that works out over time. He goes to Minnesota to become the general manager there. And, look, the Vikings were looking for somebody that had his type of talents that could scout, could help run a front office.

34:36And when you speak to people in Seattle, again, they raved about the work that he had done. And now at the age of 42, he finally gets an opportunity to become a general manager.

34:46Pat McAfee:Congrats to him. He's been there, I think, since 2014. So he was in the rooms or in the building whenever they move on from Legion of Boom, whenever they move on from Russell Wilson, whenever they move on from Pete Carroll. He was part of all of those types of things. Those are very difficult conversations that somebody who's running an organization has to have and has to be able to do. I'll be excited to see the leeway on what he'll be able to do with this future Vikings roster. Like, are they going to move on from top, what, 12 pick or something like that in the NFL draft? Will they let Kyler Murray do his thing, or will J.J.

35:14Pat McAfee:McCarthy come scrapping out like he's – Nope. Nine. Nine, Mike. That's what I'm saying. That's a good point. Don't give up on nine. Too late. This is a good first gig. What? I mean, being the GM of the Vikings, I feel like you got some good bones. Obviously, you're trying to figure out your quarterback situation, but you got a great head coach, in my opinion, with KOC, great D.C. with Flores, good talent around the roster. So if I'm getting my first opportunity as a GM, this is a good landing spot. And also, he's been there, doesn't he? He built up a winner. Yeah. Was a part of a winner and built up a winner over there with Schneider.

35:47Pat McAfee:Are you sure we could have a beer or two? Yeah, I'd say. If I had to guess. I'd say. Vikings and Bengals might as well be the same franchise. All right. Come on. Let's talk about – 100 days away. It is 100 days. Thank you. It's supposed to be celebratory. I was thinking. You guys said a lot of the same things. 100 days. Okay, 100 days. It is interesting, but one of them will kind of go to the moon. Let's talk about two franchises. one state i heard these politician people were up to 4 35 a.m just couldn't get something done the bears are coming to indiana shifter is this uh this is basically a guarantee now because the politicians what are they doing so long how could you be around each other that long and not figure out a deal how can you get it to they love arguing that's why that's that competitive spirit i guess we should kind of give them a little bit of credit for that they're able to go long into the night and say we ain't getting anything done.

36:39Pat McAfee:What I'm saying at midnight, I'm saying at 4 a.m. There's no budget. Actually, I'm getting firmer in my stance because I'm getting more tired. They weren't able to get something done, so Indiana is now the home of the Indianapolis Colts and the... Hammond Bears. Thank you. What's going on there, Schefter? No. Look, this is... I don't know where they're going to go, but it sounds like it's going to be Indiana or it sounds like Arlington, one of those two places. It sounds like they're leaving Chicago. That sounds like a formality at this point in time. It's just hard to imagine the Bears playing anywhere else, but that is going to become a reality, it looks like, barring something unforeseen.

37:17I don't know which place they're going to go yet. I just know that they're going to be out of Chicago. It's only one place. It's just hard to imagine. I come to Indiana, Schefter.

37:31Pat McAfee:That's what's happening. We appreciate you. You're the man. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Hey, Schefter. How many different convos do you think he was in at that exact moment? Ten. He just read a great text right there. You saw him pop up. That's so kind of him. What was that? Thanks, guys. Yeah, all right. See you guys later. So pissed about Junior. So pissed about Junior. Did he get caught? We kind of put it in his face there, too. I mean, in the back there, that feels a little bit aggressive. He looked ready, too, because he kind of cut you off.

37:57Oh, wait a minute. What's that? You mentioned Berrios been signed instead of. Oh, because you think he was. He said that looks likely. Yeah, it didn't have the go-ahead yet. And Junior was like, I don't care because he's a young, rambunctious fella. You know, he just, I'm going to go do it.

38:12Pat McAfee:The prince is always walking around saying, someday I'm going to be king. Exactly. So whenever you get a little Odell Beckham Jr. potential possibility scoop, you've got to run with that. Got to. And that's what separates Junior and Senior from everybody else. Everybody else is just throwing darts. And every once in a while they get something right. Ah, this person's going to do this. And they can stand on that, especially on the internet. but they're misses. Like, we've tried to play the game of trying to predict. Oh, certainly. Yeah. It doesn't always work. Sometimes you're very close. What?

38:40So... You were close.

38:41Pat McAfee:Do you remember our Christmas party? What was the news that you broke? You decided to become a baseball insider just as you guessed that something happening or hoping that something was going to happen? Yeah, that Yoshinobu Yamamoto was going to sign with the Yankees for a nine-year, $325 million contract, and that Godzilla Matsui was the one who helped push it over the goal line. Yeah, you did that entire thing. Yep. I mean, that thing went into outer space, and it turns out you were completely wrong. I was close, though. I had the money right. Yeah, yeah, you certainly did. I was proud of you.

39:09Pat McAfee:There's a lot of that. Junior and senior seemingly get everything right. Another person that seemingly gets it right all the time. Ladies and gentlemen, we're so incredibly lucky to welcome 15-year NBA vet, a man who can tell us what the hell went wrong with Oklahoma City. My bet is it's going to rhyme with bet, just from what I've been kind of hearing all morning. Friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perk. Yeah, Perk! What up, Perk? What up, what up, what up? There go my guys. What's happening? You look super professional. This is a big Perk here in a big moment. You look great heading into the finals.

39:44Pat McAfee:It feels good to be Perk right now, yeah? Yeah, it did. You know what I mean? But this is just the top half. You know what I mean? In the home studio, you got to realize it's shorts and slippers on right now. So this is the top half. I'm glad I don't get the full body shot on here. You know what I mean, Pat? Yeah, and we are as well, for sure. And we'll speak for everybody watching. Business on top party on the bottom. Let's talk about the business on top of the game right now. New York Knicks have just been waiting, basically, for the Western Conference to figure it out. That goes seven games.

40:15Pat McAfee:Wemby and the Spurs answer repeatedly as SGA tried to, hey, didn't flop, played his best game. I think that was the most electrifying that I've gotten to watch SGA play in some time. I thought it was a great game seven. I think the NBA should be incredibly pumped. But now Wemby is in his first finals. What should we expect out of this series? And what are you looking for out of Wemby to maybe cement the next crown on his head already? Well, I expect another seven-game series. We're talking about two great teams that are playing at a high level. One team is super physical, and they don't give a damn who's standing in front of them, and that's the San Antonio Spurs.

40:52This is not the old Greg Popovich, Tim Duncan, David Robinson type Spurs where they just kick your ass quietly. These San Antonio Spurs, they kick your ass and they loud about it. They're going to let you know. They're going to talk noise. They're going to rub their feet all over your carpet, in your arena, on a door dash on your credit card. And it's cool. This is what they own. And I respect it. Did you see the end of the game dunk by Vassell when everybody was like, oh, sportsmanship, sportsmanship, respect, respect? No, they get disrespectful. Then you have the Knicks, on the other hand, that are playing the best basketball offensively and defensively in the entire NBA, led by big body Bronson.

41:41This is David and Goliath, right? Like, this is 7-5 Wimby going against 6-1, 6-2, big body Bronson. I mean, I couldn't ask for anything better. I'm expecting 15 to 20 million viewers on these NBA Finals. I think these NBA Finals are going to set a record, an all-time record for his viewership.

42:03Pat McAfee:An absolute spectacle. And I hope that is the case because sports can only provide the magic that is a championship series best of seven. It's like you're telling a story. and the story is going to be remembered and told forever. It's just a winding road from New York City, the Mecca, to San Antonio with a spectacle. David and Goliath obviously had the slingshot, but what else, D-Bot? I love that. Yeah, you talk about David and Goliath, and obviously it'll be centered around those guys. But in your opinion, Perk, who has the better supporting cast around him? Not only with the players, but even with the coaching staff on the benches.

42:38Who, in your opinion, has the better support staff? Staff, is it Brunson or is it Wimby? I got to go with Jalen Brunson. I mean, we're talking about O.G. Ananobi, who's one of the better two-way players in the game. Carl Anthony Towns is one of the most skilled bigs to ever play the game. He's playing some outstanding basketball on both ends of the floor. Mikael Bridges, talk about finals experience. He's been on this stage before with the Phoenix Suns. And when you just look at their veteran, the veterans that they have on their squad, they're just clicking at the right time, along with Mike Brown, who's a two-time champion as an assistant coach.

43:21I'm not taking nothing away from Miss Johnson. I call him an evil genius, right? He is an evil genius because that little, I get one cuss word today, right? That little red motherfucker is mean, and he's about that life. And I love everything about it. I voted for him. I voted for him for his coach of the year. He want the smoke. Like, he want the smoke. You could tell that in his film rooms, he was preaching physicality. When we saw Carter Bryant have his two moments against SGA, yeah. And gave him them two, yeah, I'm here and it is what it is. That's an extension of your coach. And I love everything about it.

44:02But if I had to get a slight edge to someone, I'm going to give it to the New York Knicks because of the veterans that they have and the experience that they have on this thing.

44:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, and we'll talk about the experience around them, obviously, throughout the entire course of the series. They've been there, done that. Celtics knock them out. Pacers knock them out. They've been trying to get to this point. They fired their coach to get to this point. It feels like they've been made for this moment. And then San Antonio, how did you describe him again? Just because I don't think I'm allowed to say that. Oh, he's a mean red motherfucker. Miss Johnson, and I love everything about it. I love everything about it. They were up eight, I think, in the fourth, maybe three minutes left or less than that or something.

44:38Pat McAfee:He was celebrating with the boys. Like you saw him doing one of these, and I was like, oh, no, this might be. Uh-oh. I was so worried. I was like so, so worried for what was about to happen because I thought we were going to have to. Oh, no. That man giving up a lead in game seven. But instead, the boys reacted the complete opposite. And it feels like him and Wemby are like perfect together. Oh, yeah. And, you know, if you build around Wemby and find the support for Wemby, it feels like it's going to be a successful day for you. Now, on the other side of the entire thing, go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Big Perk, obviously the Knicks have a ton of great defenders.

45:12They've got a couple seven-footers in Mitch Robinson and Cat. Who do you think they're going to throw at Wemby the most? I think they've got to get it done collectively. Number one, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell happened with big Mitchell Robinson. You know, Mike Brown basically said it wasn't nothing. He didn't break his pinky at practice. What was he doing outside the line? What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm just trying to see. What was he doing outside the facility that he broke his pinky? That's what I want.

45:43Pat McAfee:He was probably watching film. He had a remote. He was watching. He had the little cowboy remote. I thought you used your thumb. No, yeah, but he wanted to put it down. Boom, right off the side of the table. Because he was so excited about a new technique that he thought could work. He's got a sweet truck. He was probably working on that. Might have been cooking with Mr. Baclava. I would be surprised. Might have been with Action Bronson. We don't know if he was with Action Bronson. Maybe Planet Frog cooking up a little bit. Maybe doing some jazz. It doesn't matter. Could have been with Timothee Chalamet maybe out there doing something.

46:12Pat McAfee:Maybe they were riding a train, you know? Could have been. And he wanted to grab the post because it was a jerky. Boom, bang, bust his shit. Starts bleeding. Timothee Chalamet, blood down his face. Yeah, we don't know, man. Ben Stiller could have been operating a camera for Ben Stiller's new TV show. You just never know. He could have karate chopped somebody in the neck that was trying to kill somebody. And it hit right on the... The larynx? Yeah, and broke his pinky there. I mean, it could be a lot of things. It could be a lot of things. But I know one thing that he needs to be on the floor. He needs to be on the down floor.

46:51But I wouldn't be surprised. Hear me out. I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Brown threw a wrench at the San Antonio Spurs. Like, we're expecting Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson. But what about OG and Anobi? What if they start him off on Wimby? Right? What if they start him off and have Carl Anthony Towns as the wrong guy? But look, we're to the point now where you're on the big stage. It's not about all this coaching adjustments and these X's and O's. Yeah, they play about 30 % of it. But in the finals, it's about who won it the most, right? Like, are you going to man up? Mano e mano. Do you want that smoke?

47:35Right? Call Anthony Towns. Yes, you've been playing great. But now you have Wimby in front of you. Can you play without picking up fouls? You have been doing an outstanding job all postseason long without picking up dumbass fouls. Can you continue to build on that? Mitchell Robinson, is you going to come in and are you going to be a star in your role like you've been doing? Lob, dunks, rebounding, protecting the basket. I believe right now he's one of the best in the postseason as far as opponents' field goal percentage, as far as him protecting the basket at 38%. He got to be that. He got to be that.

48:10Wimby is Wimby.

48:12Pat McAfee:He's going to make tough shots, but keep him out of your damn paint. Okay, you mentioned OG as your first person, and maybe Coach Brown throws a wrench at him. There's a stat hitting the internet here, Caitlin Cooper. Since Wemby was drafted, there are 20 players who have defended him for at least 100 half-court matchups. The player who has tallied the fewest player points per 100 matchups against primary segment is OG and OG. Oh, I didn't see this. I didn't see. Hey, Perk didn't see this, but I has been watching the game, though. Big analytics. Prediction, Perk. I has been watching the game, though.

48:42Pat McAfee:So speaking of watching the game, we obviously have to talk about a dynasty potentially being disrupted or completed completely. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Yeah, big perk. Seeing as how the Thunder have a bunch of guys that they're going to have to make a lot of decisions and they're trying to get under, whether it's the first apron, second apron, all that mumbo jumbo. They have another lottery pick somehow. How different do you expect this Thunder team to look next year? and do you think this kind of version of this dynasty, if you will, is over? I believe it should be over. I believe when you – going into the offseason, the Oklahoma City Thunder are eye candy.

49:23They have a lot of attractive pieces that a lot of teams want, whether that's draft capital or two-way players. They have a lot of guys on their bench, Aaron Wiggins, Case and Wallace. You know, all of these guys are starters on any other team. It's hard to come across two-way players. Now, Sam Preston has some big decisions to make. Obviously, you have Luke Dort. He's got a team option. Isaiah Hardenstein, team option. And then the biggest decision for Sam Preston is, what are you going to do with Chet Hongray after he folded like clean sheets in these conference finals? What are you going to do about him?

50:07See, people think that I'm being harsh on Chet, and I'm just tripping and I'm overreacting when I'm telling them that the San Antonio, I mean that the Oklahoma City Thunder needs to trade him. But I'm watching the game, and I'm watching a guy play with no passion, no heart, and he was scared. I'm watching it as if I was watching a boxing match, and I'm saying, okay, game one, they came out, they jabbed you. Okay, game two, you got jabbed again. Now when you get hit with the uppercut and you get hit with overhand rights and body shots, at some point, are you going to swing back? Are you going to swing back?

50:50At what point are you going to put your hands up and say, you know what, I'm going to protect myself. If I'm going to get my ass kicked, I'm going to get my ass kicked with me swinging. at no point throughout the course of this playoffs did Chet swing. I was over the fact after game two that he wasn't going to try to guard Wimby. Okay, kudos to Izel Hortenstein and Jalen Williams. But then when the Spurs started disrespecting him by putting smaller guards on him offensively, and he couldn't take advantage of that. And then defensively, it wasn't just Wimby every now and then that was either putting him on the post or taking him to the basket when he did guard him.

51:30It was the smaller guards that was tomato-chessing him and putting him in the basket. And I'm saying to myself, I'm like, damn, Chet, you're a first-time All-Star. You're a third-team All-NBA. And you go out on your home court, and you have two field goal attempts. Two. You have two field goal attempts and zero in the second half. And when SGA was looking for his robber, No, J-Dub. The point that you're not even being aggressive was disturbing to me. And if I saw it, Sam Preston damn sure saw it, and the rest of his guys saw it. Y 'all remember what happened in the locker room when, I mean, the post-game interview, I think it was at the game four, when they asked SGA about it.

52:18SGA, how to get him more involved, yeah. He was speechless because he feel the same way I feel. Not to that extent, but he's like, damn, dog, you going to come to play or you going to just continue to let them punk you?

52:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, so I saw some, and obviously you're a 15-year NBA vet and love the game and live the game, obviously. I saw some Ben Simmons situations where he was wide open, you know, there was a chance to go for it, and instead just didn't want to. And I think it ultimately comes from a lack of confidence, obviously, and in doing so not wanting to let everybody down. But we all watch you now, and you're making$41.5 million next year. This better be a moment where, you know, like Chet learns from this and has to figure it out because Wemby's not going anywhere. No. No, there's not a moment where you learn from it because he didn't show the heart.

53:05Like, if he would have had the heart again.

53:07Pat McAfee:You said we learned from it. Yes, we all learned from it. We learned and we saw something. No, he can change. Hey, he can kibbles him bits. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner all the way through. He can find it. This is a moment. He'll be good again in the regular season, but come playoffs, I'm not trusting that guy. Chet, you hear this? Thank you, Kyle. Thank you. Chet hears all this, I hope. I hope he does too. Chet, listen. Me too. He ain't heard none of this. No, he's hanging out with that this big gap guy probably right now. All right. This big gap. That big toe. Uh-huh. Yeah, I was. Oh, man. All right.

53:42Pat McAfee:That'll fight. Chet, it did. I didn't like. I got uncomfortable. I got uncomfortable. Zero attempts in the second half. But did you see he had some wide open ones? That's crazy. Bro, and then when he drove, he fell down in front of Wimby. He made it even worse. That's crazy. We're talking about attempts in a game seven. He had so much room. I think he could have done, like, one of those Steve Nash trick shots and, like, made it in. Even – he always – he's over seven. He always has room. He can pull up at any point in time. He can pull up a jumper. And outside of Wimby, Wimby can affect anybody else on the court.

54:14At any point, all right, I'm going to get one off. I mean, to not even shoot – if you go one for 15, it's just like, all right, you can learn from that, get better, make shots. To go one for two and not attempt it in the second half, what did you lose by, six, eight points? He did have two rebounds, though. Just give me ten.

54:30Pat McAfee:It was good rebounds. He did have two rebounds. Two blocks as well. He filled up that game paid to just be a rebounder. Okay, okay. Hey, Chet, good luck out there. Come on, Chet. Good luck. Come on, Chet. Nah. This is his last thoughts going into the offseason. I think there's a chance he works on, you know, finding the dog mentality. Are we sure that Wemmy wasn't born in the U.S. and Chet wasn't born in France? Oh. All right, okay, all right, everybody. Let's all relax. All right, hey, we appreciate that. It's a good question. Perk just said it's a good question. Ah, that's rude. Jack, good luck out there.

55:06Pat McAfee:Wemby, thank you for allowing us to be a part of this. And you, Perk, can't wait for the big announcement that you, us, and many others are going to make here over the next 24 hours. You're the man, Perk. Uh-oh. Uh-oh, Pat. I can't wait either. I appreciate that. Look at that. Didn't give it away either. In his shorts, in his house. Yeah, he doesn't even have shirts. Didn't give it up. Commando. There is a chance. Cheeks right now on the chair. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perk. Kendrick Perk. Did you hear that? Basketball. If he thought that was bad for Chad Holmgren, what they were doing to him on the internet over the last 24, I mean, it was hilarious.

55:42Pat McAfee:It's not just against him. It's also for Wemby. Yes. So, like, he has to live in him getting killed. and the person who, you know, he took a national world title from when he was 17 is just getting put in the – Good memes. And they're the same. They're going to be – Oh, yeah. Not going anywhere. SGA had a – Chet's going to have to find that, dude. He might be heading to Minnesota. Get me out of the Western Conference. Get me out of here. What? Is that what you think? Navy's still in the West. Oh, yeah, you're right. That makes no sense. You're right. He's going as far east as he can. Yeah, he might go to Boston at this case.

56:17No, no, no. That's what he means. He gets a replacement. Realistically, they might trade him to Milwaukee with a couple first-round picks for Giannis. Seriously. That is probably more likely. SGA and Giannis? Yeah, it'd be a problem. It would suck for everybody.

56:33Pat McAfee:And then how Caruso would get the ball. Caruso did. He was like 1 of 15, actually. No! At least he put it up. At least he put it up. Love Caruso. And he will. And he'll defend, too. Yes, he will. Chet, learn from this, please. you'll find it. You can do that, I think. I think you can turn it on. I think it's something you can learn. A skill. Locking in. A mentality whenever you need it. I think you can learn it. Much better when it comes naturally. But he shall see the offseason. We're back on the other side. Goodbye. O 'Reilly Auto Parts can help take the guesswork out of your vehicle's check engine, ABS, or maintenance light with O 'Reilly Veriscan.

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57:53Pat McAfee:Sports are happening all around us, and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them. The finals is for the NBA and the NHL. Drop puck and tip off this week. Tomorrow night, hockey says hello to Lord Stanley Cup's final. Who shall take home the largest and most heavy and most drinkable trophy in all of sport? Now, the Walter Cup up there in the PWHL also has a nice bowl or cup at the top. Similar. The Lord Stanley Cup has had beers chugged out of it for hundreds of years. Every name etched in it, graved in it, a celebration as it's passed around from player to player, coach to coach, country to country, continent to continent, all bringing one thing, happiness.

58:43Pat McAfee:Because to get to that landmark move, you have to beat a lot of great teams. The Vegas Golden Knights have only been a franchise for about a decade. They're trying to get their second one. Come on. They fired their coach with eight games left in a regular season, bringing an old-season vet in torts. He rallies a group of absolute dogs to play their best puck. They knock off the Colorado Avalanche, who were supposed to be an actual avalanche of hockey talent. They were supposed to beat everybody. Instead, the Vegas Golden Knights punched their ticket to take on the Caniacs, brother, down in Raleigh, the best barn in the league, with a team that is young, hungry, and ready to win in Carolina for a fantastic group that is certainly worthy.

59:25Pat McAfee:They'll have the siren cranking. And I think I saw people working there jerking so that they can get that thing really humming to drop puck. Congrats to hockey tomorrow. And then Wednesday night, we find out if the alien can take down the Mecca. Think about Wemby and what Celebrity Row is about to look like. You know, ever since the beginning of basketball, I feel like, you know, players have been viewed as spectacles. Every room that they walk into, they're taller than everybody else. You can't help but look up when an NBA player normally walks in. So all eyes are going to be on these people for a majority of their life to begin with, let alone in the center of all of media, New York City, with their favorite team.

1:00:06Pat McAfee:A team that if they were to win a title, would potentially get statues on the top of Madison Square Garden for the rest of time, not paying for anything anywhere. Doing something for the city of New York, the Knicks could potentially bring everybody together in a landmark celebration that would certainly be warranted of documenting. And then Wemby in the Spurs. This could be the beginning of the end for everybody else. Yeah. If the Spurs win this one. Yeah. So young. Braun's coming. So young. What do you do? What do you do if you're everybody else? You're trying to find another Wemby, I guess.

1:00:40Pat McAfee:You're trying to find a team that is, like, perfectly humble to understand the reality of the situation. seemingly all old-school dogs in very young, able bodies that could go on for the next 10 years, and a coach that's willing to fight the other team alongside of them. This could just be the beginning of what's about to happen to the rest of the NBA, and I think we get a chance to recognize that, unless the New York Knicks can obviously topple this potential next star. I don't want to crown Wemby yet, because I think he has to get crowned. But let's remember, LeBron James made how many straight finals?

1:01:10Pat McAfee:There's a tweaker. Eight or nine? Eight or nine, yeah. Eight straight NBA finals. He'd been in the playoffs, I think, for like 20 years straight. He was the one that carried the playoffs. He was the one that the NBA said, hey, just look what we got. Wemby could certainly be that. He's taller than anybody. He's a deeper thinker. He's phenomenal at things that normal athletes are not. He'll sit down and beat you in chess. He'll be able to talk about the universe. I'm sure he's well-versed in many different religions and different conversations and political stuff. I couldn't even fathom how much he has done in that particular realm.

1:01:46Pat McAfee:And then on a complete opposite side, he will elbow you right in the throat. He will absolutely elbow you right in the throat. He'll climb mountains with monks while dribbling basketball for hours and hours and months and months away from his family to kind of lock in and learn a new thing. This is one of the most interesting humans to ever be created, and this could be the dawning of him being the face of the NBA. It's an awesome time to be alive if you're a sports fan. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Conner. at Ty Schmidt. Ty, love the fever hat. Love what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you.

1:02:17I'd love to see the girls kind of put it together a little bit better on the floor, but when times are toughest, I say, okay, I've got to dust this thing off. I've got to wear it today because we need unity now more than ever, and I think that's getting lost on a lot of people.

1:02:29Pat McAfee:Well, I think you were not calling for unity at all in the first hour. I wasn't. You were demanding that the coach, I think his words were, stand down. Correct. I think it's what you said to the Indiana Fever Coach White is a phenomenal coach. She is. She's done great things for the Indiana Fever and other places in WNBA. We're talking about naps. And, you know, I think she's just trying to do some coaching, you know. And I think this is just competitive juices kind of flaring. And obviously, we've seen things like this in the past. Yeah, if she was a tennis player, she'd be breaking her racket.

1:02:59Pat McAfee:Sure. She would be breaking her racket. If she was a baseball player, I think we'd see her potentially, you know, Some of this. The amount of these that she would do if she was a baseball player. I think she just, I think that is the type of athlete she is. Everybody wants to tear the fever apart right now. They do. They're saying that this is going to be the driving force. That maybe this city that has gone a lot of investment into this fever team and what they have because of Caitlin Clark and how thankful they are. It does feel like time's maybe not the best. I appreciate you wearing the hat to get them back in good graces.

1:03:34Thank you. Just a little bump in the road. We mentioned it. But, yeah, and I came out hot just because I felt like everyone's attacking my fever and I didn't know what to do, what to say. Obviously, we need Coach White to stand down respectfully in some aspects. But, yeah, I'm not above the hard coaching because guess what? CC can handle it. She can take it. She knows she needs it. You can't be showing up your coach like that on the bench. You just can't be doing it. Oh, we didn't hear you say that. Did you hear that? I like to say, okay. Unless you've already put 30 in. or, you know, unless you're absolutely out there just tearing it up.

1:04:08Then in that case, Coach White, respectfully, sit down, shut up. I'm going to go out there and I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. Respectfully. Yeah, respectfully, of course. It's just a little blip in the road. I just don't want to see another season slip through the cracks for my beloved fever.

1:04:20Pat McAfee:Are you a biased fan? Do you think I see Iowa right in front of you? Maybe. But isn't every fan biased? Well, right now we need good WNBA conversation. I'm worried that we can't have it because you're just coming from a place of bias. You're saying two different stories. First hour was a little bit different than that. There was no accountability for CeCe in that first hour. Maybe he's coming around. He kind of stood down a little bit, which I like. He's a little more objective. Obviously, he came in hot. He was more biased. And then, obviously, you thought about it. That's all he talked about during the break.

1:04:47Thank you. His beloved fever. We've been seeing him wear his hat all season long behind the scenes. Yeah, we got him front row tickets to every game. Yeah, and I wish I could go. I have a newborn, obviously, so I can't. But, you know, so my seat in my house, my fever seat is right in front of the TV. I never stray from it. He got a custom red and blue Lazy Boy. It has his exact same material. Yep, bedazzled. I'll take a picture of it when I get home. You have to sweat in that. Silk. It's hot. I didn't think about the W season being during the summer and having to sit in that thing when I'm just absolutely cooking in there.

1:05:20But, hey, guess what? That's what you do for the love of the game.

1:05:22Pat McAfee:One half of the hammer. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Huge day, obviously, as we announced our partnership with DraftKings. Can't wait for that. Exclusive markets. I think people are wondering what that could be. Just know we've got an announcement within the next 24 hours. Wait until you hear what these exclusive markets are going to be. I think it's going to be a good time. Obviously, predictive markets are a thing now in our society, in our world, where you would trade on whether or not something will happen or your thoughts on something taking place. It's obviously been something around the Internet for a while.

1:05:51Pat McAfee:Now it's coming into the more mainstream. Now it's getting a chance to get more commercialized. Now it's getting a chance to really enjoy the thought of what friends have been doing for a long time in certain places. I understand not everywhere in the country just had a gambling mindset about stuff. But I'll tell you what, I'm not throwing something into a creek without maybe something being on the line for a long, long time. I haven't lived in a world without Italians around me, a lot of them. So I think this has just been something that I have kind of understood takes place. Now with gambling kind of taking over the entire market, there's obviously been a lot of different situations that have come from it.

1:06:26Pat McAfee:And we're in a transition era as something becomes very nationwide and mainstream. but I think we are incredibly lucky to be a part of the transition part. You know, everything we're going to do is going to be, hey, let's be smart about this now. Let's be smart about this now. Let's just enjoy this because it's supposed to enhance the game experience. It's supposed to enhance sporting conversation. It's supposed to be a benefit as opposed to a downfall, and I hope we're able to do that tone, and I know that you feel that way as well. That is what Hammer talks about basically every day. Yeah, obviously, and I love it, and we are big fans of exploring the space, and I know we will explore the predictive market space.

1:07:01It's just something that we're going to do. There's going to be a lot of different things that we're going to do around that. And now that DraftKings has the super app, which has everything in one place, it's going to make it very, very easy.

1:07:10Pat McAfee:Yeah, we should have fun. And this is not going to be the conversations we're going to have every day because of this. No, this is just us kind of explaining what's going on. And then once DraftKings just officially becomes partner of the show, we're going to have a blast. And we're very appreciative of all the opportunities that they are providing. You know, there used to be a time where we – where we, where we, where there was people taking bets on things. Yeah, you can say it. That we were, that we were doing on the internet. Okay. There was different things that were happening. For instance, I go, I want bowling live streamed.

1:07:41Pat McAfee:And there was somebody taking bets on this thing. And then I'd shoot NBA threes. And then I go into. Skee ball. Skee ball at Chuck E. Cheese as we would live stream it. And it was just a series of challenges. You know, obviously that can't be something that can become a thing. But we can have that type of mentality on how we can get it to officially be a market, which obviously there has to be fairness, there has to be accountability. We've thought of a lot of ideas that these little markets are going to be incredible. And we're thankful for those opportunities. We're thankful for DraftKings. And we're excited to get moving forward.

1:08:11Pat McAfee:Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, Hawk. Hawker, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great. Good to hear Ty was so up in arms over the Caitlin Carter situation, but he was not sure if they won the game or not. That was a bit surprising. He said he turned it off as soon as he saw that video. Let's not completely ruin the fact that he has no idea what he's talking about. What are you talking about? This guy has no idea what he's talking about. He told the head coach to stand down. That's amazing.

1:08:41Pat McAfee:Stand down and then told her to look around. That's why she clearly doesn't know how to coach a superstar. Okay. And that's all we got. I kind of just came off that position, so I can't point and say thank you. But Tony's got opinions. You know, a lot of people share. They're my fever, too. Yeah. I'm always running a fever around here. They lost to the Portland Fire, who are a good basketball team. They're a good team. Kind of the Vegas Golden Knights of the league. 184. Kathy Engelbert was so kind to us. Did you guys see the box we got sent from the WNBA? Oh, yeah. They sent us a box of merch over here.

1:09:13Pat McAfee:You guys are hiding boxes? Right there, wide open. Sorry, Tony. That was when you couldn't just open it out. We did. Oh, you snuck away. We did do it behind there. I got a great shirt, good pair of shorts, little varsity thing. We appreciate WNBA, but I do like the thought that Kaitlin versus the WNBA has now turned to also Kaitlin versus her own coach. And, hey, it's a trenches mentality out there for the CC Mafia, and we'll see if it ends with her getting a title, which we obviously hope she gets, and an MVP, and in good graces we're a team. Exactly. Keep her here. We need her to stay here. Good luck.

1:09:49If we need to do a full. Good luck. Or your property value is going way down. No, it doesn't matter. They're already knocked down a jail to build up the Indiana practice facility. It's still going up. But I'll tell you what, if Caitlin Clark's not here for it, I do wonder about what happens to those gigs.

1:10:04Pat McAfee:I don't think everybody outside of Indianapolis fully understands what is actually happening around the Indiana Fever because of Caitlin Clark. She's like the Beatles. Yes. Like legit. Actually. Yeah. They sell out the arena. This is the WNBA. Sell out the arena, and then they had to build an extra spot for people to do watch-alongs outside so that they can still get the Pacer experience, and then afterwards they get the fever experience, sorry. And the Pacers only use it in the playoffs. Kaitlin's using it every single game. I mean, it is – they're building buildings around because of her. Yeah, damn near everybody's biggest sellout for the WNBA is when Kaitlin Clark was in town.

1:10:43Pat McAfee:So what we're saying is when you see that video and everybody wants to say, like, hey, Kaitlin needs to get it together. We agree. Like, that's not how we would certainly design a WNBA superstar to be. But, like, this is kind of who Kaitlin is. And Kaitlin is very, very effective business-wise for the Fever. And she's also, whenever she started making buckets, I mean, she's good. But I also like that Coach White feels like she's got a coacher. Me too. Because Coach White's like, hey, this is also my reputation. I might get fired out of here, but at least they'll know that I coached. Because this is like Bill Belichick saying I coach Tom Brady the same way I coach everybody else.

1:11:13Pat McAfee:Not every coach is like that. So I think Coach White is also standing on business. Yeah, Torch. She's standing on business, I think, for who she is. And then Kaitlin, I think that's just who she is. I think Kaitlin is going to be very pissed off. I think that's a part of her, kind of the reason why she is who she is. But it is wild that that is the storyline coming out, and I appreciate you trying to put it to bed. Yeah, thank you. Someone's got to, you know. I mean, everyone else wants to just rain on the parade. I simply will not let that happen. Let's not rain on any parades. Let's actually bring some good vibes, shall we?

1:11:43Pat McAfee:Okay. Ponch has got Team USA about to win the whole damn thing. Look out. Yeah, we had a scrimmage, international friendly, down in Charlotte where the balls weren't bouncing, but the goals were scoring. Team USA beats Senegal. Senegal, actually a good team. Yeah. Actually a good team, from my understanding. Top 15 team in the world. Christian Pulisic has an apple, and then he has a goal.

1:12:09Pat McAfee:First goal since 1999 for Christian Pulisic, is what you're saying. But the captain, obviously, the old captain of Team USA, feeling great. Coach Ponch is on the sideline dialing it up. He has a full computer. He's drawing up plays during the hydration break. I mean, the boys are rolling. Now, there was a rumor that he had signed to coach a team in Italy before the World Cup even started. So then we're like, well, damn. So this is his – he's aloha, hello, and goodbye. One World Cup, and then he's gone. What is this all about? And then Gumpy says, well, hold the phone. Who knows? This guy fucks around and wins a World Cup for Team USA.

1:12:44Pat McAfee:That's a good point. We're just going to let this guy walk out of Team USA? I don't know if that's necessarily in the best interest of soccer as a whole, but also the way Ponch has been talking since the beginning is like, USA is a place that creates greatness. We need to live up to the standard. We need some people that want to play for America. That is all we want. And it feels like Ponch has got dogs on the team. We just beat Senegal. Pulithic is scoring. He doesn't have to be captain. They got the big tall blonde kid doing that. Yeah, Tim Ream. Huh? Hold on. Are we? I'm starting to believe.

1:13:16Huh? No. What? How many times have we won the World Cup? Let's enjoy this win, guys. Like 10? We beat Senegal on that. Let's enjoy it. Believe. Let's not put the cart before the horse. Then why are you raining on the parade? Unfortunately, it's a preseason. He asked me a question. I can't say no lie. He's got to stay on his page. Is it because it's just a preseason game and it don't matter at all? It's a friendly. We've won. And look, you want to win preseason games, you want to win in practice. If you're a competitor, you want to win everything. So let's just stay. Let's just be where our feet are.

1:13:47Let's not get ahead of.

1:13:48Pat McAfee:All right. We're undefeated against Senegal. We're going to the final. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what you're talking about. Two schools of thought. We'll see you there, Spain. You're screwed. Boom. Everybody should be worried, I think, especially with how we're playing and with how strong the MLS is. Hell yeah. Their ratings were up 195 ,000%. Whoa. That's a lot. That was not the right number. It was a huge number, though. It was like 190%. It was massive. Holy hell! Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter is reporting. Miles Garrett has been traded to the Los Angeles Rams. Wow. Not just smoke. What?

1:14:25Holy. Oh, my gosh.

1:14:28Pat McAfee:Jerry Verse. Wow. Just a couple years into his career, as he was an emerging superstar for the Los Angeles Rams, He will go to the Cleveland Browns alongside a 2027 first-round pick and other draft pick compensation still being negotiated to the Browns. Los Angeles Rams, Les and McVay are not scared to make plays. I mean, this has been something that they've been a part of. They traded, obviously, for Matthew Stafford. They get him in here. They brought in Odell Beckham Jr. They bring in Devontae Adams. They're not scared to bring in stars and try to go ahead and win something and sell the appeal of Los Angeles.

1:15:07Pat McAfee:Versus a young stud for that Los Angeles Rams team. And now they bring in the man who has the most sacks ever recorded in one NFL season. I love the move for the Rams. Obviously, the Browns have had to say publicly a couple different times, we're not trading them. Now they have traded them. And it's June 1, 2026. I assume this will be deemed a post-June 1 designation. Yeah, because when they reworked his contract, this was the day that it would, similar to A.J. Brown's situation, this would be where they can do it and not destroy their cap and everything. So all the reporting around the redo of the deal was accurate?

1:15:46Yes.

1:15:47Pat McAfee:Whenever they redid the deal, everybody around the NFL, us included, were like, wow, that sounds like they're doing that to trade. That sounds like they're trying to trade Myles Garrett. Browns came out, not true. We're doing this, not true at all. That is not what we're doing. And then here we are, June 1. Bang. We thought A.J. Brown would be the first one that we hear. Instead, Myles Garrett, gone. D. Butt, your thoughts about the Rams? I mean, I'm gobsmacked. I'm gobsmacked. This is unbelievable. Now we have the reigning MVP and the reigning defensive player in the year on the same team. So, obviously, they want to win.

1:16:20They want to win again. You got Stafford. You drafted your future with Ty Simpson. But, I mean, for them to make this move at this point on both sides, for Andrew Barry to trade him away, you know, after what you did with Deshaun Watson. and that's still a little bit. This is an unbelievable move. Obviously, the Rams coming into the season, I don't know where they are in the DraftKings market as far as being favorites for the Super Bowl, but I would assume coming into the day, they were top three or four. Now I would assume this would bump them up to one. They were one. They were one coming into the season?

1:16:45Oh, yeah. So, yeah, this is an unbelievable trade. Great move by the Rams. Obviously, a great player in his prime. I know we've never seen this. A player of this caliber at this point in his career. Was Reggie a trade or white? Free agent.

1:16:58Pat McAfee:Going to Los Angeles, too, That whole storyline in of itself. Miles Garrett, all-time leader in Saxon of season, heads over to Los Angeles. Matthew Stafford, who has four different records, heads to Los Angeles. It is kind of storybook how this is all going to go. Do you immediately start shitting your pons if you're in the NFC for the Los Angeles Rams for this year? But what does this mean for the future, I wonder what Snead's saying. I mean, history would tell us that it doesn't even matter. Because when they went all in a few years ago and won the Super Bowl, and we thought like, okay, then they're going to have to pay the Piper at some point.

1:17:30No, we are here now where they would have been in the years where they paid the Piper. I believe the Super Bowl is at SoFi this year too, which is where they won their first Super Bowl. So it's almost as if they're starting this trend. Hey, every year that we have the Super Bowl in L.A., guess what? We're going to win it, yeah. We're going to be there. Sorry, Chargers. You are not the team of L.A. We are, and that is going to be how it is forever. And granted, they now have Miles Garrett, who's going to be the stalwart of their team for the next eight years. Also, let's not forget, they went and got Trent McDuffie and made him the highest-paid corner in the league, too.

1:17:59So all in, like, it's unbelievable. And now on the other side, you realize if you're Cleveland, Miles has been unbelievable for you, but he has not won there with you. Now you have two first-round picks in what's supposed to be an incredible quarterback draft if this year's quarterbacks do not work out.

1:18:13Pat McAfee:So what are you saying? I think both sides won. Okay, but you're saying? That the Browns quarterbacks currently aren't going to work out? No, that inevitably you think this was? A good trade for the Browns. Wow. Wow, good for you saying that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. What up, Schefter? Hey, big news, Mike Schefter. You knew it. All right, let's go, Schefter. Good work, senior. Senior had to get back in there. Let the boys know. Hey, this is how you do at the top of the food chain. Okay, so tell me about Miles Garrett, okay, going to Los Angeles.

1:18:44Pat McAfee:Whenever they redid his deal, however long ago that was, we all reacted the same way. that seems like they are trying to make it more tradable. They said no, now we have it. Have teams known that Miles Garrett was tradable as soon as that deal was kind of redid? And how do we get here with the Rams, Shefty? Well, there is a long, convoluted backstory to all this, which is obviously still being finalized. But when the Browns redid Miles Garrett's deal, there were people that suspected at that time that this paves the way for the Cleveland Browns to trade Miles Garrett. And I truly believe, I know, that when the Browns redid that deal, the idea was to reconfigure the way and time in which they paid option bonus payments.

1:19:30Now, most fans don't care about when option bonus payments are paid. But the way it was set up in Miles Garrett's deal was the 15th day of the new league year in mid-March. They pushed it back to a week before the start of the regular season. Once they did that, it created more flexibility to trade them. And so that was a big deal to a lot of teams. In fact, I had a couple of teams call me and say, they're going to trade him. They're going to trade him eventually. The Browns are adamant all along. Like I told you an hour ago, we're not trading him. We're not trading him. But the Rams began pursuing Miles Garrett.

1:20:05They kept pursuing Miles Garrett. They didn't stop pursuing Miles Garrett until they were eventually willing to include Jared Verse in the trade. Once Jared Verse got included in the trade, the Browns were interested. Okay, we get a player now for the short term, and we get draft pick compensation, including a first-round draft pick in 27. That we can live with. that we can live with. And Miles Garrett's going to fly to L.A. tomorrow night. The Rams are doing what they do. If you remember, the year before, or the year that the Super Bowl was being played in SoFi, they traded for Matthew Stafford that year.

1:20:51And now, in the year that the Super Bowl's back in SoFi, they're trading for Miles Garrett. How happy is Miles Garrett? His girlfriend's from Torrance, California. I can only imagine what he's feeling. Jared Verse from Dayton, Ohio. Born in Dayton, Ohio. We'll see. You know what? He's got a lot of leverage. He becomes contract eligible. Versus pump.

1:21:14Pat McAfee:Versus pump. The heart breaks. Versus pump. Andrew Barry obviously had to get the deal to a place where he could sleep at night for giving up Miles Garrett. 30 years old. 30 years old right now. So we still got, what, at least four or five more years? Are they going to have to renegotiate his deal in L.A.? How do you see that working out when he gets there? I think it's going to be addressed. The deal's going to stay pretty much intact. They're going to adjust it, I believe. I expect that they'll adjust it. It's not going to be some huge razor new deal. That's not going to happen, Pat. All right, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.

1:21:41Pat McAfee:That's Adam Schefter. AJ, he's 30. We still got years ahead for Miles Garrett out there in Los Angeles. I love this move for the Rams. Now, granted, people are going to say draft capital and Jared Verse and player comp and everything like that. Andrew Barry is going to be judged off of all that type of stuff in the future. But for me, I enjoy when a team says, I think if we have this piece, we win a Super Bowl. What are your thoughts on Myles Garrett being that piece for the Rams? Yeah, I mean, he definitely can be that piece. Myles Garrett hasn't shown any signs of slowing down either. That's the thing.

1:22:09A lot of times when older vets, and you can't call them older at 30, but they have shown signs of possibly slowing down a little bit. I don't see that coming from Myles Garrett. I haven't seen anything on tape that would show me that. So I think it's a gigantic trade for the Rams. I mean, you're right. Myles Garrett's got to be juiced. I hope Jared Verse is excited, Dayton, Ohio kid. Like myself, I hope he's pumped to go to the Browns. I think he's going to bring a lot of juice. I think he's going to help that team, and they might surprise some people this year. But, yeah, what a blockbuster trade.

1:22:37And this is one of those that could honestly work out for both teams. It really could. It's unbelievable.

1:22:41Pat McAfee:Rams line goes from plus 800 to plus 650. Wow. Holy shit. 150 points for a pass rusher. When they're already that short. Like if it was like plus 3 ,000 to plus 2850 is one thing, but when it's 800 to 63, that's even bigger. Well, think about the D-line. That's Miles Garrett football, baby. Yeah. Think about how good the D-line was with Jared Verse. Like, that was the conversation last year. Hey, you need all those guys up there. You need the ones. They still have Fisk from Florida State who they took in the first round. Young, I believe, is still there. Like, we talked about that as that's a big, big thing.

1:23:15And Jared Verse, as great as he is, like, Miles Garrett is still the best in the NFL. So, you add – you kind of swap those two out. I mean, that is unfair. If I'm in the NFC West or the NFC, I am bummed at it. It's unbelievable. And no disrespect to Jared Burse, like, at all. Great, great young player. Has started damn near every game since he stepped into the league. It's been impactful. But for him to be the needle mover or the guy that gets this deal actually done, that's still shocking to me. I would expect him and maybe still two or three first-round picks we'll be talking about. Because Myles Garrett can be in the conversation when he's done of being one of the greatest defensive players of all time.

1:23:54I know he didn't win, but when you look at his numbers and his sack numbers and pressure and all this shit. He will be in that all-time conversation. So, yes, Jared Burst is a very good young player. It shocks me. Like what Shefty said, yeah, they redid the deal, but once Jared Burst got to the conversation, that really changed things. That's shocking to me.

1:24:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, they get a couple ones, or they have a couple ones now for the next upcoming draft, and there's some other draft compensation they said still being figured out. So maybe there will be another one or two. Maybe that gets tossed in there. that we can, you know, because they always have all the value stuff on everything. How do you value a guy who needs a championship? You know, like that's what Myles Garrett needs. And he knows that. He typed up that thing. It's not about getting to Canton. It's about winning championships or something. At one point, whenever there was like a leverage negotiation happening with the Browns.

1:24:45Pat McAfee:So he understands he'll be judged off the championships in which he has won whenever he's done. Now he has all the accolades. Can he go get a ring? Feels like the Rams might be the place to do it. Congrats to players' perspective. Congrats to Myles Garrett, man. Yeah. This is exactly what Matthew Stafford needed. Cleveland to L.A. This is the exact situation that Matthew Stafford was in. Had all the accolades, had everything, just knew he was going to be judged by the championships. That's all anybody held over his head, even though he had, like, the most passing yards in a season, the most passing yards over two seasons, the most passing yards over three seasons.

1:25:18Pat McAfee:He played with a broken neck, a broken shoulder, broken ribs. He was considered a guy by all football people. but until he won championships, nobody would take him serious. So he gets traded to the Rams, wins the Super Bowl, and everybody's like, ah, he's got better teeth. But also, he's definitely certified first ballot Hall of Famer now. Miles Garrett's in the same exact situation. All the accolades, all the sacks, all the this, most in five years, most in four years, most in one year, most in this. Just doesn't have a championship. Feels very similar. And he has an impact on a game that I don't think I've seen live in some time.

1:25:48Pat McAfee:He took over a game against the Indianapolis Colts. Fucking guy blocked a kick. He got like 13, I don't know what it was. He took over the whole game. The stadium was chanting his name. In our stadium, they were chanting. The guy was everywhere. Sack, fumble, touchdown. Right in front of us. Yeah. And then he blocked. I mean, it was, holy shit, this thing. And now he's with the Rams. Congrats to all parties. All right, let's pivot away from that. Let's go to Stanley Cup Finals. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who was supposed to be joining us a long time ago. A lot of news, huge news breaks. Representing the NHL 18-year vet.

1:26:18Pat McAfee:fresh off a great golf trip lad from what i heard where he played like ass ladies and gentlemen eric johnson yeah horno horno what's going on pal oh not much just uh yeah not a not a great golf game on on friday here in cherry hills couple uh couple chunks couple tight uh rotator cups i need that shot of toradol for my round on wednesday that's for sure listen with who you were golfing with i think you should try to play well you know because he will be certainly trying to win as well so maybe we get the tort already for every single time you golf with the sheriff and also let's start working on some rotation stuff i've been influenced have you guys been getting your algo been flooding you with uh daily movement people oh yeah yep a lot of this shit huh when you start doing this shit oh yeah oh really yeah bouncing like jumping up and down kind of bouncing all that yeah let's open up the fucking thing yeah okay right away chakras do this one here too for the shoulders i think you do this for 15 seconds, five different rotations, and then somebody will come and throw all fours in there doing Tybo basically.

1:27:20How's that work?

1:27:20Pat McAfee:They said you do 20 minutes of this a day, you'll fucking feel better. It's like, I hope so. Movement is medicine. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say it. It doesn't help. I've tried every witchcraft potion in the book. It doesn't help. Let me tell you. Good to know. Keep fine rotation. Everything doesn't work. I'm done. Thank you, Horno. Thank you. Now we don't have to try. I'm going to keep trying. I'm going to keep trying. Horno, let's talk about the Stanley Cup Finals. Obviously, you've been a champion before. You've drank from Lordo's Cup at the very top. Golden Knights feel like they are a wagon.

1:27:57Pat McAfee:Hurricanes, obviously, have one of the greatest runs in the history of the Stanley Cup playoffs. What should we be expecting here tomorrow as puck drops for the Stanley Cup Finals, Horno? All right. So this might not be the sexiest TV matchup, right? I think, you know, people think when you hear Vegas, Carolina, you might think, like, it's not a made-for-TV series. Sorry if I cut out there. Must not have paid the Wi-Fi. Jeez, Horno. Perfect timing there on that. Horno. A horse chewing his wires. He could potentially have a horse that's kind of going a little rough shot, I believe. Sure, yeah. That would be the word.

1:28:37Pat McAfee:Hey, Horno, we'll catch you tomorrow, Horno. Yeah. Get you tomorrow, Horno. Is Aaron Donald coming out of retirement? He should. I'll tell you what. Good idea. Come back. Can't stop thinking about that. I can't believe that happened. That is crazy. What? So, allegedly, we're about to have a lot more information, potentially, from a friend of the program that might be plugged in on the conversation. A man that was flying coach one time was somebody that is certainly close to everything that's happening. We are cold calling Schrags, I believe, right now. Oh, yeah. Because Schrags definitely knows how we got to this point.

1:29:10Pat McAfee:And he'll say something as if it's so casual. Well, we all knew like three months ago that the Rams were certainly offering a one, but they were not. He'll say something like that, and we'll be like, Shregs, we didn't know that. That would have been a cool piece of information to know. That's the type of shit that these insiders, conversationalists, kind of just pick up naturally, and then they don't know what's public or not yet. So hopefully we'll be able to get Shregs to make everything kind of public. We see it with AJ a lot, wherever we're asking about Aaron Rodgers, and AJ says, well, what has been reported?

1:29:38Pat McAfee:because AJ's trying to figure out what he's allowed to say and what he's not allowed to say. Shregs, I think, has a lot of that all the time. Now we hope he'll be able to completely unload everything. And this is your, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, flying coach, Peter Shregs. Shregs, okay, so I was just kind of giving the backstory on you insider people who have a lot of information you're not allowed to say publicly, and then something happens, you're finally able to kind of let us in on the details. You're obviously very close with the Los Angeles Rams organization, not the only organization you're tight with, but obviously very close with that particular organization.

1:30:08Pat McAfee:How did we get to Miles Garrett being a Los Angeles Ram, Jared Verse being out the door, and this historic trade happening here on June 1st out of nowhere seemingly, Shrags? They weren't going to do this trade on June 1st, Pat, until they told Jared Verse the news. So when it went public with Adam and Ian and Tom breaking it, it was when they finally let Verse the news let him know. They didn't want him finding out on Twitter, and they've learned that before, whether it be the Jared Goff trade or some of others. They want to talk to the player directly. And McVay is very clear about that. But talks have been going on for weeks.

1:30:41And I would almost say the selection of Ty Simpson and the hysteria around that, there was always assurances that there was another deal that was going to be made by the Rams. And that assurance is not just for the fans, but for the quarterback as well. Hey, we're not giving up on this season for you. Don't worry. You're going to get your money, which he did. But we're also going to get you a premier, premier player. And that premier, premier player is the defending sack champion defensive player of the year. And the type of guy that they look at in the same conversation as Aaron Donald is that good and what he can still do at this age.

1:31:19And Munkin was giving you guys breadcrumbs throughout this entire process saying, I never met him. And I'd like to see him. And this was this was in the works. And I think both parties are very happy with the trade. Browns included as they continue to build around the future. and get piece after piece after piece until they can drop that quarterback down at the QB1 spot.

1:31:39Pat McAfee:Okay, so they've been talking for weeks trying to get this done. They've kept it quiet so that Jared Verse didn't find out on the internet. He found out directly from the Rams. When was Jared Verse a part of it? Because I believe Schefter told us that Verse being added to the option was basically what kind of moved the needle for Andrew Barry to pull the trigger on the trade as a whole. Were there other players being offered up? Was that the first time a player got? Like, how did we kind of get to that? and when did the Rams find out that Verse was potentially going to be traded? Yeah, and that's the hard part about this.

1:32:11You give up a star player like Jared Verse, who's beloved there with the Rams. But both sides had been talking, and I could say it's been weeks. They've been talking for weeks, and Verse was dropped in there at a certain point where the Browns couldn't turn around and just say no to this. So those conversations were had, and I could tell you, Barry and Snead and McVay and Munkin and, of course, the ownership groups, they have all been lock and key for the most part, saying we're not going to talk about this publicly until it gets over the finish line. But in the last few days, it looked like the finish line was near.

1:32:40And obviously, Jared Verse was the tipping point where the Browns said, OK, in exchange, we get a guy who is not only a top 20 pick who's gotten better every year, but he could be a super talent in addition to a first round pick. So this was one where I think the Rams were really pushing it. The Rams were the ones trying to make it. And they continued to knock down those doors. And then at a certain point, the Browns said, yeah, this is the best player we've had on defense, maybe in our team's history. But in exchange, we get a guy who's younger. We get a fresh new start. And with an entirely new coaching staff, well, OK, if we're going to make this trade and we're going to do it and get him off the books and let him go pursue his Super Bowl dreams, this might be the perfect trade partner.

1:33:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's like an exact situation with Matthew Stafford. The NFL obviously put out a stat sheet of miles. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous. this is kind of what it was like with Matthew Stafford in Detroit. You know, this was kind of a very similar situation. Had all the records, had all the stats, AP this, all that. Didn't have an MVP, obviously, so that was kind of held over his head. But going to L.A., trying to chase a championship, will Miles Garrett do the exact same? And, you know, this is interesting. You talked about how when Ty Simpson got drafted, there was also a mission by the Los Angeles Rams front office and McVeigh to let Matthew Stafford and the fans know that they're going to try to make a splash to try to win right now.

1:34:00Pat McAfee:There was conversation allegedly about them maybe being in on A.J. Brown earlier in this offseason. Today was supposed to be the day that we talked about A.J. Brown getting traded to the Patriots. But are there any other teams that are potentially involved? And does this mean that Stephon Diggs is probably going to end up with the Rams as well? Like, how do you kind of view, are the Rams done making moves? Do we know? This was the big swing. And I've been doing the Windy Fingers on every show. I've been on saying, hey, McVay and Sneed are not done. Demhoff is not done. Those guys don't sleep at night.

1:34:29If you think they were just taking Ty Simpson and saying, all right, we're good to go for the start of the season, you don't know how they operate. This is uncover every rock of relief, and especially with Stafford and his window, that, hey, we're going to get him all the support. I have not heard Diggs. I have not heard, you know, Brandon Ayuk. I have not heard Debo, all those names. This was the primary move that the Rams have been focused on executing and getting a once-in-a-generation type player to go along with Stafford and that offense. And that's in addition to bringing in Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson, of course, in free agency this year and then the trade for McDuffie.

1:35:04Rams are ecstatic right now. They hate losing Jared Verse, obviously, but to pair Miles Garrett with a team that was knocking on the door and was a couple defensive plays away from a Super Bowl last year, this is the move. And anything else is going to be secondary. I've mentioned the Stafford part of it Because when you have those conversations with Stafford He could have lost his mind When they took a quarterback in the first round He didn't And I think one of the assurances was You're not only going to get paid You're also going to get another player That's going to be a running mate That gets us over the top Or at least we hope to this offseason

1:35:37Pat McAfee:Congrats to Myles Garrett Getting into hopefully a championship conversation Is he still his Halloween set up in LA? Oh man Holy Do they both have to pass their physical shrinks? We saw the Max Carlin situation. All that has to happen, of course. This is agree to terms. Like Munkin was talking. He was talking 45 minutes ago. Putting his ankle in a blender. You say he's throwing his leg over? What? Clamp that wrist and smash the rock against his feet. He's from Dayton, Ohio. He's from Dayton, Ohio. He got a taste of L.A. and now he's got to go back? Yeah. Oh, boy. Now, Dayton, Ohio, much closer to Cincinnati.

1:36:19Pat McAfee:I was going to say, not that close to Cleveland. Yeah, very far from Cleveland, but Ohio. It's an Ohio guy. He's not taking a hammer to his knee. If he's smart. Geez. I'm so sorry, Jared. He should call Jared Goff and see how he was feeling because that gets pretty well documented. And that worked out well for Jared Goff. And Munkin and MCDC, kind of two pieces of pot. Exactly. Hell, yeah. I assume Munkin called him wearing jeans in a three-size-two-big button-down. flip-flops with a blazer. No, he might have penny loafers on, actually, holding the old-school, just styrofoam cup of coffee, no cream, no sugar at all.

1:36:56Pat McAfee:Gives him a call. You're going to love it. We love you. Did you happen to see Munkin did media like 40 minutes ago, and he knew this was happening, so he's dancing around. It's worth watching now, 40 minutes later. They're asking him about Garrett. He's like, well, no player has been guaranteed to be on the roster, and it's like you could read through it a million ways in real time, but now that you know what was happening, you go back and it's like, oh, Munkin has been telling you this for weeks. It's been telling you that this might go down for weeks. You just have to go back and decipher what he's been saying.

1:37:23Pat McAfee:We love Todd Munkin. He's the best. We love him. He walked in. They were cleaning up trash in the building. I mean, he walked in. Hey, this is the new head coach. He came walking in. Hey, how you guys doing? You got a pisser anywhere? Right over here, you can do that. Not a lot of fanfare. They took him up to his office, overlooks the field. Just gloomy-ass Cleveland. All right, nice. Yeah, I was just in Baltimore. I understand. Get out. All right, see you later. I love this guy. Yes. I hope he does well. They don't know who their quarterback is, but they do know that Myles Garrett will be gone.

1:37:52Pat McAfee:Okay, final question for you here. Shrags, go ahead, D-Butt. Yeah, Shrags, on the bottom, if you pop that Shefty tweet up again, on the bottom it says there's some other compensation draft pick-wise. Do you have any idea what that may be in the addition of, obviously, this 2027 first-round pick and Jared Verse? I don't, and I'm going to let those guys be the ones to break it because they broke this one and did a wonderful job teaming up and doing so. I don't have the actual picks. The key to me was the first obviously verse and then Miles Garrett going to be wearing a Rams jersey when, by the way, Super Bowl is in LA.

1:38:26Monday Night Football weeks two and week five in LA. And of course, this is the city where Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay won their Super Bowl five years earlier.

1:38:35Pat McAfee:We hope it all comes to fruition for them. We like whenever teams are super aggressive and make massive plays. Okay, you don't want to get in the insider game. We don't know if we're going to have to call you Lord or Duke in this entire thing. We don't know what to change. I'm happy to be a soldier, my friend. Just on the front lines. Little finger. Respect. Private Peter. Yeah, Private Shregs, ladies and gentlemen. That's him. We appreciate you. That was good news in there. Weeks. Shregs. They've been doing this for weeks. How do they keep it quiet? I don't know. That's because Monkey runs a tight ship.

1:39:07Yeah. It's a tight, tight ship.

1:39:10Pat McAfee:God. But how about L.A.? That's a lot of potential voices. Well, we didn't know for a long time what they were doing behind the scenes. Yeah, it's Ty Simpson. Stuff that we now know. Ty and. Oh, yeah, and how about him telling Ty, don't tell anybody anything. Yeah. That's what Les probably tells everybody. He probably tells everybody, hey, don't even. Everything that they've done. You would still think something to this magnitude, like someone would find something out. I mean, we're talking about a guy who is arguably a top five defensive player of all time when it's all said and done. And it's crazy that nothing floated through the cracks.

1:39:42Pat McAfee:Your hat with the way the light is hitting. I know. Is it blinding you? It is. That's kind of by design. So all you're thinking is, man, I got a fever and I just don't know what to do. It's by design. Yeah, it's a good hat. It's a good idea. Even the Stafford trade, no one expected LA in that one either. That was not part of the rumors at all. Think about how many people were down at that resort down there in Mexico. Oh, yeah. Honestly, there was a lot of people involved in all that. Somehow they keep it quiet. Mind their business, not taking pictures. But what does this mean? Yeah. What does this mean?

1:40:07What does this mean for Puka? What's that about, D-Buds? That's a good question. But what does this mean for Puka? Once the JSN bill got announced, over$42 million or something like that, reset the wide receiver market, we all looked at Puka and expected him to kind of be the next guy in line. But now you go and get, obviously, Stafford at short term, McDuffie, highest paid corner now, Myles Garrett, highest paid pass rusher. Yeah.

1:40:32Pat McAfee:There's a salary cap. There it is. There's a certain way to work it, though. Sneed's been able to do it in the past. We assume he'll be able to do it again. let's pivot away from the NFL and one of the biggest trades in history, and let's go to the most electrifying night I've had in some time not watching Hoop for Hockey. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not paying attention to the Women's College World Series, there is so much shit. I mean, there is... Last night, we had a bottom of the seventh. Seventh inning is the entirety from UCLA. Woolery is her name. Steps into the batter's butt with a smile on her face.

1:41:07Pat McAfee:Okay? Smile on her face. Down two. One on. Last inning. Million-dollar pitcher. Kennedy. Boom! Gone. Back flip. Tie game. Let's go ahead and round the – we get extra innings, innings, innings, innings. Texas Tech gets a huge win in a celebration that was had by me that I could not have expected laying in my bed in Indianapolis, Indiana. It's been electrifying over there. There's been some drama, there's been some upsets, and there's been dogs across the board. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a UNC alum and somebody that's on ESPN and ACC softball coverage every single year, ladies and gentlemen, Brittany McKinney.

1:41:47Yeah, Brittany!

1:41:49Pat McAfee:Brittany, how are you? Man, I'm great. I still have chills from last night, though. That was incredible. Okay, tell me a little bit about this, because it feels like Texas Tech kind of employs a different strategy than UCLA, certainly, but maybe everybody else. So they got Kennedy playing like first base, and then they had Terry sick tats. Sick tats. Sick tats. She's pitching lefty, and her entire left arm is just tatted up. I mean, it was a spectacle. She came in, obviously offered a different look, I guess. Had Texas Tech been doing this all year, they got a two-pitcher rotation. And then for UCLA, did I see 190 pitches or something like that from their pitcher?

1:42:26Pat McAfee:And she was still hitting 70, 69, 70 way deep in there. What is the pitching game? Some teams have one. Some teams have a few. keep them on the field so they can rotate? I don't think I've seen anything like this before. Yeah, I think that's a great question, especially coming from the baseball side. You see starters start the game, and when they come out, they're done. But in softball, we have a DP flex. So your starter can come out, but she can reenter. And when Kennedy came back and reentered after Terry came in, then they just had Nyjah play first base so they could bring her back in. I mean, there was a couple innings where they both pitched a couple of times in the same inning, and it's to give the hitters a different look.

1:43:02I mean, and we talked about it the other day, Pat, that two arms at this time of year are so much better than one with all the offense and UCLA with, I mean, what Taylor Tinsley did throwing all those pitches. I mean, she has 33 wins on the season, so she's been the workhorse all year. And it was a lot to ask of her. And that last inning that she gave up those couple of runs, I think, you know, she was throwing hard, but just wasn't as sharp. And for Texas Tech to be able to go back and forth with two elite pitchers, That was the difference.

1:43:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, Kennedy comes in, by the way, in the middle of an inning, seventh or sixth, throws three straight balls. Terry had just done it, and it's like, oh, wait, did we just walk this thing and the base is loaded? And then three straight strikes come right afterwards. It was like, ooh, that was a good little story right there that was just told. And then it happens again. The final Ponche pitch that she hits there on the bottom, two pitches beforehand, called a ball, exact same spot. It was called a ball like two spots. I thought she walked her. I thought she walked her right here. Instead, it was the complete opposite.

1:43:59Pat McAfee:I was hooked. I was completely hooked last night. Yeah, it was absolutely electrifying. And it feels like there's a lot of moxie on these teams. You got a lot of moxie on these teams, Conman. Yeah, crowds are also insane, too. Like, even on that UCLA homer to tie it, that was awesome. But to your point right there about the pitches looking similar, is there any thought, Brittany, about, like, a possible ABS situation coming to softball or at least college softball and baseball? Is that a conversation at all? Or are they just going to ride and die with the Elms forever? You know, that's a great conversation.

1:44:30SEC tournament for baseball actually had ABS this year. So it's the first time we've seen it in baseball this year. And I think it went well. I think it'd be really good for our sport. I think the more it's growing and the more people are invested. And we saw how electric ABS created around MLB. So I don't know if we're there yet, but for SEC baseball to do it in their tournament, I think gets the wheels rolling and the conversations to be had because there's so much on the line now with how big the sport has gotten.

1:45:00Pat McAfee:Yeah, and the investment as well. I mean, I only got to see Oklahoma. I would assume that Texas Tech is doing the same, especially with the roster budget that they've kind of pieced together, bringing in multiple transfers. I believe Terry was from UCLA. Obviously, Williams was from Florida. Kennedy was what from Stanford or something like that. It feels like there's a lot of investment happening in women's softball. And every time I watch it, I enjoy it. And I like the storylines. Go ahead, Todd. Yeah, Brittany, is that maybe one of the reasons? It seems like Texas Tech is kind of rubbing everybody the wrong way.

1:45:29We saw what happened against Florida and the regionals. And then there was the big brouhaha with Tennessee about the handshake line after the game. Like, are they kind of the villains of college softball right now because of their willingness to use NIL? And they like to have a lot of fun. They flaunt it. They have a lot of moxie. Like, how do you think people should look at this Texas Tech team? Because it does kind of seem that they are at the center of every kind of controversy or whatever you want to call it in softball right now. You nailed it. They are. And their head coach, Jerry Glasgow, said, hey, we'll be the villains.

1:46:04That's fine. They're embracing this role. And, you know, when you get three All-American transfers in one year and see a team invest in softball financially like Texas Tech has, people aren't going to like it. People are not going to like when somebody has something that you don't have. And you know what? They do have the moxie, the swag. They're not going to back down from anybody. They're going to speak their mind. They're going to show it on the field. You know, if you can back it up and win ballgames, be the villains. Be what you need to be. But no, not everybody likes it. It's not everybody's cup of tea.

1:46:33But it does make for some fun storylines and exciting games.

1:46:36Pat McAfee:It's good for softball, though. If anybody's invested in it, the more investment, the better. Obviously, eyes can follow all of that. Let's go back to the brackets right there because Tennessee, Texas started at noon. I guess Texas is up 4-1 in the 6th right now as we are live. This is the live. Oh, bup-bye. I mean, that was a live look. Perfect ball cut. I mean, geez louise. That was unbelievable. So that's taking place as we speak. And then I think something that's interesting that we also have to revisit is the one loss bracket down there. So if you have one loss, you go back into the tournament basically.

1:47:10Pat McAfee:and then what if you make it to the finals it's just best of three everybody's slate is clean through that entirety yeah the the champ series is a best of three but right now with texas and tennessee texas they win this game they're gonna have to beat them again in 30 minutes after this game so they're hoping for two games today um but it's hot in oklahoma right now pat i mean it is hot and humid it's a long day but tennessee did not start carlin pickens their ace and i think they're kind of kicking them they didn't go to her earlier before tennessee grabbed four runs on But maybe saving her for game two because it's so hot.

1:47:43I don't know.

1:47:44Pat McAfee:It's hot in Oklahoma. And the action is electrifying. We appreciate the hell out of you for covering it. We can't wait to watch it. And when's the finals? So tomorrow is the off day. Then the finals will pick up after that. Okay. So no softball tomorrow. So enjoy it today. Get a little rest tomorrow. And then you can get back on it. Okay. But I do have something for you, Pat. Okay. Congratulations on the DraftKings thing. but I need some better softball lines. Okay. No, that's, you need to take advantage of their softball lines. So this is what, this is. We just have money line right now. You need more, you're saying.

1:48:18Pat McAfee:We need runs scored, everything like that. Strikeouts. We need more in the softball world, you're saying. Yes. Yes. Deal. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Brittany McKenna. Yeah, Brittany. AJ, softball is electrifying. I don't know if you got to see it this week or weekend while you're working with your B's, which, congratulations, Congratulations, by the way. I've heard your beehive is certainly swarming and building maybe a beautiful little environment around the hawk house. And I saw your youngest boy didn't even have a suit on, just walked right over. He's so comfortable with these bees now.

1:48:51Pat McAfee:So can you give us an update on your once feral wild swarm that is now made full hawks? Got to let them build. Got to let them get strong. That's what I'm doing. Had to inspect them about four or five days ago. I'll be back out there in a couple of days to check on them. Hopefully I can find the queen that can mark her. That's a big thing. If I can find her, I can isolate her, put a little mark on her back so she's easy to find, I guess, every time I would go in there. Like a Sharpie? Are you going to put, like, a GoPro on her? Yeah, like a little paint. No, like a paint marker. Yeah, I'm going to put a GoPro on her, like that cool video of the crab going in there because that was super real.

1:49:23That got me. Got me, too.

1:49:25Pat McAfee:I was down in there, bro. And then they'll put one on, like, the back of a jungle cat in some of them. Man, it feels good to be down in there. Oh, yeah. Turns out it's not real, but we can still say it is. You go ride the Avatar ride down at Disney, feels like you were in. Pandora. Pandora. There it is. It feels like it was. We have another breaking news coming out of the NFL. Now the Giants have officially announced that they've signed all three guys. Juju Smith-Schuster is a member of the Giants. Odell Beckham Jr., member of the Giants. Braxton Berrios, member of the Giants. All three of them were working out.

1:49:54Pat McAfee:It was originally reported that Braxton Berrios was signing with the Giants. So some might, ourselves included, might say, well, congrats to Berrios. He kind of won the workout. Then Odell Beckham Jr. is back in town. Holy hell, that's gigantic. And now Juju Smith-Schuster also in that locker room. That locker room, we think, is in a great spot after going through a little bit of adversity, having to have conversations with each other, learning about each other quickly in Harbaugh's culture. You've got Brian Burns' celebrity softball game. This might be the world's team, not just the Giants. It's a beautiful thing happening over there.

1:50:24Pat McAfee:Bruce, are you guys just signing everybody that we've heard of? I like what we're doing in the big time. Anybody that can run down the first baseline has a chance to join our wide receiver room today. You know, it might not inspire confidence in Malik Nabors' week one availability very much at all. But we're going to have people. We're going to have Berrios, Agent Zero. We're going to have Juju and, of course, OBJ coming home. Okay, so I love that Malik Nabors going to first base. It wasn't just us that said, well. Yeah. What the? Sign everybody. Yeah. All of them. Tell you what, eight years ago, that would have been amazing.

1:50:59Can't let him play. You've got to have a pinch runner for him.

1:51:01Pat McAfee:Eight years ago. What was that? They should have announced this maybe on Thursday so we could have a throwback Thursday day. Juju, Odell Beckham Jr. coming back. That would have been a sick thing if they would have thought about content first before building their actual roster. But if Juju can get you a first down, which we know he can. Yes, definitely. And if Odell Beckham Jr. can make a couple high-ease down the red zone, which we know he can. And if all of a sudden Braxton Berrios can become the guy that we all hoped he could become. Zero. Maybe Jackson Dart has the greatest year of his life.

1:51:28Pat McAfee:Maybe this is the giant Super Bowl run. And maybe today is the day we'll look back on and say, that was when they did it. When Scadaboo did the backflip and Malik Nabors couldn't get the first base. And Jackson Dart hits an absolute dong shot after dapping up Abdul Carter publicly. That was the day in which the Giants became Super Bowl champions. Wow. Congrats to you guys, Bruce. Congrats. June 1. Good luck with Miles Garrett and the Rams. Same day as our DraftKings announcement, the Giants did it. Yeah. Miles Garrett. Wow. Traded to the Rams. We'll obviously continue to chat about that. Who knows who will get on the phone?

1:52:01Pat McAfee:Cannot wait to follow up. We'll also be making our picks for the Super Bowl here 100 days out. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. DraftKings available nationwide. Goodbye. Mid-sentence nationwide rhymes there with all the others. That's perfect. Had to drop it in there. It is available nationwide. For some of our, I think for our first market we're going to create, I think there's like three states that are like, no, we're not going to approve that. We can't. So we've got to earn trust, I believe, once again with the market makers. through the special events that we're going to be doing.

1:52:31Pat McAfee:Just know they're going to be a good... Hey, come on. We've been cooking over here. 1 ,205 days we've been kind of watching everybody else kind of do their stuff. We've been kind of cooking over here. We are very excited to hopefully make sports better. That is the only goal of this entire thing. And... Get some cracks. Cracks. All right, let's take a break. On the other side, we'll wrap up the glorious overreaction Monday, June 1st. So many news and subjects. Let's get on the horn and see who we can talk to that has more information on what just happened with Myles Garrett being traded in the middle of his prime to the Los Angeles Rams.

1:53:05Pat McAfee:Holy fuck. Is A.J. Brown getting traded? We shall see. Be your friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Take five. Five.

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1:54:13Pat McAfee:Sports. Part of the absolute greatest, that's A.J. Hawk. The Talks at Tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. And nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Where the fuck is all this money coming from from the NFLPA? Hey, this is – they paid the ex-head guy who ended up leaving, and there was a lot of things being said, obviously, about his tenure at the helm of NFLPA. He got paid like$7.5 million or something like that, the head of the NFLPA. That's a lot of money. Come on. That's a lot of money, seemingly, for the head of a union.

1:54:48Pat McAfee:That came out in a federal filing. And it also came out, Shador Sanders got paid$17.7 million from the NFLPA. This is obviously the record, the most amount of money that's ever been given from an NFLPA licensing deal, I guess. You know, they said a trading card deal potentially built up half of that. Okay, the other$8.7 million or whatever the case would be, would still be like top two, three all time in the history. Travis Hunter had$12.8 million, I believe, in this entire thing. Tom Brady had like nine something. So that's like the top of what NFLPA checks have been in the past. Where's that?

1:55:25Pat McAfee:The NFLPA is driving a lot of money. That is an incredible business model. How much of the NFLPA make off of this? If that's what they're given to Shador and where's this all coming from? I love it to be clear, but I have no idea where this money's coming from. I'm very pumped up about the future of the NFLPA. If this is going to continue to be the case. No idea. Especially because he wasn't top 10 in Jersey sales. I could kind of understand, or at least you could get there maybe, if he was like the number two or three overall selling jersey, but he wasn't in the top ten. You mentioned it. I think it was$9.9 or$9.8 million from Panini of America.

1:55:57And then the other things that were mentioned in there were like Madden, the NCAA game was mentioned, and then that's not even including his other endorsements. Like I don't understand how someone who didn't really kind of make any headway in the league just yet has made the fucking needle move. He definitely is. No doubt.

1:56:16Pat McAfee:We are huge fans of Shador. We love the Colorado story. I love transferring in, obviously going to HBCU with your family, putting everybody on. I'm a fan of Shador. That is a lot of money. I'm just saying if the NFLPA is generating that amount of capital just for one player who is not the. He's the star of the league. He's one of the stars, but not the guy. I mean, if the NFLPA is able to generate that type of money, that's good news for the future of the NFL and for the athletes of the NFL. If the NFLPA is also activating or acting as like an agency arm for you, bringing money in. It's like if that's one player, that's Shador Sanders.

1:56:55Pat McAfee:It's crazy to think if they were able to what they'd be able to do with Mahomes or Kelsey in this world, obviously, with how sellable he is. That's it. That was just a huge. I was I was to take your word from real. I was gobsmacked when I saw that amount of money because I'm like, where's it all coming from? And is this going to continue? I was too. And you saw his college teammate, you know, Heisman winner Travis Hunter being a number two with the crazy number as well. But that was to see 17 million was insane. I mean, he was clearly by far, in my opinion, the most popular player from his draft class for a number of reasons.

1:57:30People hated to see him, hated everything about him. And then people loved him, loved everything about him. Obviously, he didn't make the headway on the field, didn't play a ton until the end of the season. But that was insane. I am interested, like you said, to see where the breakdown or how the breakdown really is. All I care about is that he's getting the money that he's – Bingo. Because every time, you know, the NFL, once the draft happened, I mean, I feel like every other post of theirs was about Shadur. Once he started to play, it was about Shadur. You know, a lot of the conversation throughout training camp, his reps, so all the things.

1:58:01So I'm glad that he actually benefited financially from it. But I'm definitely interested to see the actual breakdown. Like you said, yes, this does bode well for the future of the NFL when it comes to players and bringing in this type of money.

1:58:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's kind of all listed out publicly, I guess, in a federal filing. It just says royalties and player marketing. One of them, though, is for$9 million here on 2025, May 16th. We assume that one would be the Card Panini one that was in there. There's a couple other million-dollar ones that just say royalty marketing, June 27, 2025. that one might be the ncaa march man uh or video game cover it's all before the season even kicked off yeah congrats to him man congrats to him and is this going to continue to be something that is happening from the nflpa to its players and if that's the case that's great news aj that is phenomenal and i think that's the best usage of the nflpa as well if they become a money generating arm for the players they got enough people sitting in suits in an office can somebody think of some ideas to generate some capital for these players feels like they're doing that or at least on the verge of doing that aj yeah it seems like they're on the verge of it this is a great thing i think moving forward it'll be interesting to see like next year who who gets the most from this these group licensing agreements and yeah i think a big chunk of it is the the guaranteed for the trading card situation but still 17 million dollars in one year if that's the case how much did he bring in because we know like there's not a 50 50 split i'm guessing like we're players aren't getting 50 i I doubt it when it comes to a marketing situation.

1:59:28So he had to bring in a ton of money for him to actually receive that much.

1:59:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, and how the NFLPA go about getting that much money. So that means somebody had a vision, a plan, enacted on it, executed it, and both sides were able to win. If Shador is getting 17.7, we assume the NFLPA is going to be getting a lot of money as well in this entire year. Yeah, how was this set up? I know you were more into it than we were as players. How was this set up when we were playing with the NFLPA? Because I know you had your gripe. Small percentage. moves yourself from you know like the pa as a whole so what was the setup now just such a small percentage like whenever they were selling things it was just they undercut they undercut my entire merch company and we're like marketing under it and the amount of money that i get from me selling up my own shirt basically versus what they were getting it was just such a small percentage but there's no way that that small percentage would be 17.7 million dollars so they had to have a different deal with shador and aj you said it can't be 50 maybe it was i i guess i could i guess it could because it is the pa but yeah i would be i would be surprised if players are getting that big of a percentage but 50 for an agent is absurd nobody should ever think that that is acceptable in any world but for a players association if they're automatically getting deals and deciding to give them to people you know that's obviously a reason why they would get the large percentage if nobody else could get the deal that's a lot of money yeah one where i don't understand it makes no sense.

2:00:50Pat McAfee:Hey, who cares? Hey, who cares, Shador? Good luck out there. Hopefully that's the standard going for him. Yeah, exactly. Legit. And congrats to Shador and to Travis Hunter, and thank you for what you guys did for Ball. You know, they were topics of conversation for all of us throughout it. That's a lot of money. Tom Brady, he was the most handsome guy on earth. I mean, it's basically like he went first round. Like a lot of people expect him to go. I saw a tweet saying like it was Golden's, basically his contract, or maybe more, and his total contract. So it's like, obviously he went fifth round.

2:01:23A lot of people expect him to be a first rounder. So that money, he still recouped a lot of that money. So, I mean, much more than like player, what was it used to call player performance checks? Like you get drafted in the fifth, sixth, or seventh round, but you end up being a starter, and then you end up earning maybe a couple million. But to get$18 million, it's insane.

2:01:41Pat McAfee:Also, player performance might be a huge part of that. If that would count towards this, which I don't think I saw it in there. I saw royalties marketing there. Player performance, I don't know if that's from NFL or NFLPA. I don't know. I had good. Player performance is good for me. A.Q. Shipley. He ate off. He ate off. Purdy. Yeah. Purdy's contract doubled because of it, but it's still only$2 million, I think. Yeah, I don't know if player performance would count towards this anyway. Hey, Shador, congrats. I hope this becomes a thing for all players. If your union can generate that type of money for players, whenever you go into a potential work stoppage, boy, that makes everything a lot better.

2:02:18Pat McAfee:And if you're forward thinking like that, trying to make money for players, we like that as well as we look ahead to a potential never having a work stoppage again in negotiations. The player performance bonuses came out in March. Nishan Wright, the corner for Chicago, had 1.4. He was the highest. Okay, so does this count, I wonder, towards it? I don't know. Crazy. Congrats to the world. We appreciate that. We're 100 days out from the NFL season starting. Holy hell. Here we go. Was it last Sunday? Was the midway Sunday? where the amount of Sundays from Super Bowl versus kickoff Sunday is now we're on the back nine.

2:02:50Pat McAfee:We're on like the fairway of the ninth hole right now. Correct. Okay, when it comes to the amount of Sundays. Yes, it does sound good. Yeah, we're starting to get a little lubed up. Sounds good. We got NHL finals. We got NBA finals. You know, there'll be some dark days in here, but it sounds good. You know what? That's July. Who cares? You're right. Because of how good we feel, why don't we make our Super Bowl champion picks right now? Hell yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right now. We will stick to these. we will stick to these I remember mine from last year don't you? yeah you picked the whoever won the Super Bowl I'm pretty sure I had that matchup yeah and no I did that I said that because I said Schneider's the man I know him from my Packer days I said Sam Darnold football gods you kick him out of Minnesota he's certainly going to reap the benefit of that type of karma and he did with Seattle become Super Bowl champion but here we sit 100 days out how do the odds sit?

2:03:42Pat McAfee:well one has changed from plus 800 to plus 600 over the last hour. The Los Angeles Rams are your Super Bowl favorites at DraftKings. Now, they were at plus 850 or 800, I think. Then they dropped down to plus 650 as soon as the Miles Garrett bet gets mentioned. Then I assume a lot of people get in there and start hammering at 650. It goes down to plus 600. 200 points of favorite movement because Miles Garrett ends up with the Los Angeles Rams. that has to be some sort of record. I know Myles Garrett won't be able to publicly celebrate this, but Myles, you should know that's a fucking huge deal.

2:04:21Pat McAfee:That is the sports book saying. Defensive player. You're a defensive player that has that big of an impact on the team. Exactly. It's crazy to think about. Quarterbacks. I don't even know. There's probably a handful of quarterbacks that would have this type of movement in a positive direction. We've seen negative. We've seen it go the other way whenever trades happen. For it to be a 200-point swing to the Super Bowl favorites, Because you get Miles Garrett? Absurd. Now, let's pick who we think is going to be winning the Super Bowl. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. 100 days out from the NFL season.

2:04:56Pat McAfee:Who's winning the Super Bowl on this June 1st? I have the Rams playing the Houston Texans. And I have the Houston Texans winning the Super Bowl. Holy fuck. I did not see that coming. Congratulations to the plus 1 ,700. Houston Texans on getting a nod from an AP NFL voter, AP Tone. Holy hell, what do you like about him? Well, I like what CJ has done this offseason versus last offseason when he was touring the world with Micah Parsons and talking a lot. He's really just gone to work. He's been in the gym. He cut his hair. I like what they did with their offensive line, brought in David Montgomery.

2:05:34And the defense only got better, and they were the best defense of all time last year. So I like the Houston Texans.

2:05:38Pat McAfee:I love the Houston Texans getting a Super Bowl bid from AP Tone. Let's go to the Talks at the table. I have Ty Schmid. Who's winning the Super Bowl 100 days out? I have the Packers defeating the Bills in the suitcase. Oh, really? Yeah, and I think it's just time the Packers got to go. You already paid Jordan Love. You've got Micah Parsons, obviously. They need to kind of just weather the storm if he is going to start the year on PUP. But they kind of shored up the defensive line where they were very thin last year. After he got hurt, they were basically fucked. They used their draft capital this year on a cornerback to kind of get that situation cleared up.

2:06:10And it's kind of just go time. You know, this has been one of those teams where, hey, they're super young, but when, you know, they're playing well, they're one of the scariest teams in the NFL. I'm tired of hearing that. Now you need to go out, you've got to win a playoff game, and you've got to get hot at the right time and go win a Super Bowl. And I think if Michael Parsons is healthy, if Jordan Love stays healthy, I think they can do that.

2:06:29Pat McAfee:Okay, Packers, that doesn't seem like a biased pick at all. What if they don't win? Jordan Love is another year in his contract. LeFleur, obviously more comfortable. You've already traded away a lot from Michael Parsons. What if the Packers are third or fourth in the NFC? Well, you know, I think if they're third, I think they still probably make the playoffs. They're still in a window. They're still very young, but you can only say that for so long. Like, they need to go win. Let's go fucking win. Goal, Pack, Goal. Goal, Pack, Goal. I can't wait. This just reminded me what the season is like with you.

2:07:02Healthy Tucker Craft, too. That was huge. Very healthy. Yeah.

2:07:05Pat McAfee:Okay. Micah, stay healthy as well. Obviously, he could be a game changer. Conman, who's winning the Super Bowl? Kind of different than Ty. Not a biased pick at all. I got the New England Patriots beating the Rams. Oh, not biased at all. Not biased at all. Strictly ball. Strictly ball. I mean, if you look at just the numbers, okay, Drake May in his third year, second year in Josh McDaniel's offense. Word on the street is, yeah, it looks pretty good. They revamped the O-line. They already got Romeo Dobbs. They're going to get A.J. Brown. Expect that plus 1 ,600 to move maybe to plus 1 ,500 after that happens.

2:07:34And then when you're just talking. Maybe.

2:07:35Pat McAfee:I don't know, dude. We'll see. Miles Garrett moving 200 is a very abnormal thing to happen for these odds. Yeah, no doubt about it. I just think that with that wide receiver core between those players, and then when you just look at the team last year, we actually were fourth in rookie snaps in the entire NFL last year, and then what happened? We still went to the Super Bowl. Another year in the system, and then the Rams. You kind of get the battle of the MVPs next year. Hey, who should have won the MVP last year? Drake Mayer, Matt Stafford, let's prove it in the Super Bowl, and I truly believe that New England Patriots can do it.

2:08:06Pat McAfee:So they're both going to have back-to-back MVP seasons? I believe so. Yes, I actually do. What a delight that would be for us. I think it's going to be remarkable because if you just look at the Rams, they had a lot of young talent on offense. So Puka Nakua probably got his stuff together. I think we all believe that. They had a tight end. They drafted in the second round from Oregon. I think Ferguson. Yeah, Terrence Ferguson. He's probably going to get even better. And then with New England, another year in the system. We always talk about that. Love that the toxic table is not biased at all, AJ.

2:08:34Pat McAfee:Not biased at all. Just strictly talking ball over there. Plus 1 ,700 odds for the Packers, plus 1 ,600 odds for the Patriots, plus 1 ,700 odds for the Texans and Tones pick. Let's get a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, 100 days out from the season. Who's winning the Super Bowl? Oh, everybody knows I got a bunch of teams that I pull for and root for, but I actually won't be biased to any of those teams. But I also won't go out on a limb either. Last year I think my preview was the Ravens over the Eagles, and I think they were both on those top row. And right now both of my picks in the Super Bowl will be from that top row as well.

2:09:09It's going to be the Ravens who I had coming in this morning as my Super Bowl champs, but now they get beat by the Los Angeles Rams after that trade. The odds changed. My mind's changed as well. You got reigning MVP. You got the reigning defensive player of the year. You traded for Trent McDuffie. I mean, they're all in. Obviously, Stafford, you can say what you want to say and he said all the right things when it comes to Ty Simpson. Coming off an MVP season, it's hard to find a little more motivation. That's a little more motivation. Myles Garrett chasing a ring. McDuffie already has a couple rings, going to get another one.

2:09:39I think, I mean, it's great. And then the Ravens, I think, you know, Lamar is his third OC now. The previous two OCs won MVPs with both of them. Had probably his worst season as a starter in the league last year. I think he bounces back in a major way with Declan Doyle calling the shots on offense, coming from Ben Johnson's system. So, yeah, I like the Ravens to make it there, but to get beat by the Los Angeles Rams.

2:09:59Pat McAfee:Could you imagine Minter in his first year going to the Super Bowl? Ravens fans would be so pumped they moved on from Hardball. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That'll be a celebration over there. And if Lamar plays the way we think Lamar can play, maybe he's in the MVP conversation as well. I love these picks. I love where we're at. Hey, you know, a nice little slew of teams that could potentially be involved. And that's what June 1st is all about. AJ, no biases. Who are you picking to win a Super Bowl? Yeah, no biases. So I do not have – I've played for the Packers for nine years. I did not put them in the Super Bowl in this early, early prediction.

2:10:30So I would love for them to prove me wrong and get there and find a way to win it. That would make me very happy. But you can check the timestamps. Before Myles Garrett got traded, I texted D-Boner, and I told him my pick for the Super Bowl, and I had the Buffalo Bills taking on the Los Angeles Rams and actually pick the Bills to win this one. Okay.

2:10:47Pat McAfee:But now that Myles Garrett's with the Rams, do you want to flip-flop back over? You know, he can maybe handle Josh Allen on the biggest stage. No, maybe ask me like in August or maybe after the first couple of preseason games if I want to come back to. But right now, I got the Bills beating the Rams in the Super Bowl. I know the Bills, they had a second-round pick. They picked up Parker, the edge guy from Clemson. I think he's explosive. D-butt, they got your guy Skyler Bell from UConn, the receiver. Yeah. Fourth round. He's going to be a breakout star. So, yeah, give me the Bills. Okay. I love that you have the Bills.

2:11:18Pat McAfee:And I like that you're saying, let me see Miles in the pads first. Yeah. Because once you see him, you know him. No, no. I just need some more time to digest the trade, I guess, is what I'm saying. even though I had them before Miles. Yeah, I guess I'm going to stick with that, but you never know. As soon as we see this guy in these pads, and think about Stafford trying to impress Miles, Miles trying to impress Stafford, let alone Miles trying to prove himself to an entire new building already. You know, that's just something that's naturally going to take place. They're all going to make each other better.

2:11:48Pat McAfee:Yeah. So give me the Indianapolis Colts winning the Super Bowl. Yeah. Okay. over the Seattle Seahawks. Oh, back to back. I think people forget about the Seahawks. We haven't really talked about them. I think they get a huge NFC Championship win over the Rams. I think it is a heartbreaker. Now, that is 100 days out. And just like AJ, I do reserve the right to be able to see Myles Garrett in the Los Angeles Rams uniform and kind of go for it. But for me, plus 6 ,500, it seems like I'm the one that's going out on the limb the most here. And you know that's where the fruit is. It's good value. Great value.

2:12:27The Colts also took the Seahawks to the wire last year with Phil Rivers at quarterback. That was in Seattle. And we've seen how healthy Dan Jones looks. I don't think that's that crazy of a pick. That's not a biased pick at all. No, Chiefs. Are the Colts winning the division too?

2:12:41Pat McAfee:No, Chiefs. No, Chiefs. I thought about it. No, you shouldn't think about it. I thought about it. I can't believe us. That's why, you know what, I hope if somebody sees it, they'll know that I took the Colts because I'm invested in it. I'm a season ticket holder in the Colts. I'm a basically. Well, I took the Rams because they got a fucking Madden-Tuber team right now. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I have a question for you guys. Are the Lions going? No, that's not what this is. This is not about the Lions. Who's your Seattle Seahawks dark horse pick on this board right here? The Indianapolis Colts. What the fuck are we even talking about here?

2:13:12Pat McAfee:Okay, well, what's everyone else's that are realistic? Dallas Cowboys. I was actually going to say the Dallas Cowboys. I was going to say the Denver Broncos. All they did was add Jalen Waddell, and they brought everyone back. Where are we cutting it off at? I'm going to go lower. I'm going to Atlanta Falcons. Are you crazy? Plus 12 ,000. Tua Tonga-Ploa? Who's the quarterback? Tua. Tua. Okay. I think allegedly that seems to be the thing. Or the team right next to them, the Titans. Titans or Falcons? I was going to say the Panthers. Don't sleep on the box. The box is plus 4 ,500. That's a good football team.

2:13:46Great value. Added Bain, Keontae Scott. Okay. The Browns are going to surprise some people, honestly. Sure.

2:13:51Pat McAfee:Nobody really brings up Mike Evans not being in Tampa Bay anymore. everything's always like the positive, which we like because we like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They've been very good to us. They just lost Mike Evans. That's a big hole to fall to fame. That is a massive ordeal. Not that we don't believe in Baker, but that feels like a big deal. Carolina Panthers, you're right, made the playoffs last year. Damn here, beat the Rams, too. Kind of figured it out. Who did they draft? Big guy. Strong guy. They took the right tackle in the first. Okay. Right? Played Jalen Phillips a bag. What about the Commies?

2:14:22They went to the NFC Championship two years ago. They draft Sonny Stiles to replace Bobby Wagner. They added, who was it, Odawe? Yep. Yeah. New OC. There it is. Oh, sorry. Monroe Freeling.

2:14:35Pat McAfee:Hey, I don't want to say it. I like the Commanders as well. The reason why I like the Commanders is Jaden Daniels is a rookie. Why not the Raiders? Plus 15 ,000. Legit. Yeah. Man. Great offseason. And Fernando can do it. Remember, they somehow trade for Max Crosby. Yeah. Guy who's already been on their team. and that just kind of capped off a huge offseason of bringing in great players. It feels like they're setting the culture up in a different way this year. I think I don't mind the Raiders at plus 15 ,000. Tom Brady, more hands-on, right, we're hearing? Yeah. Is that what we're expecting and thinking?

2:15:09Pat McAfee:Fernando, we all believe he's a guy, right? Yes. The Seahawks were around plus 6 ,000 last year. Okay, so the Colts, perfect. Thank you. Okay, around, please. What are the longest odds to ever win a Super Bowl? Was it last year, the Seattle Seahawks preseason? That's a good question. That's a great question. All right, as we pivot away from the NFL, let's talk about odds of winning. Winning the Champions League is so difficult because it starts at home. You've got to win your league. You've got to be top three in your league, top four in your league. You've got to be top four in your league. Of all the leagues.

2:15:45Pat McAfee:Top of the table. So the French League, top four. The Spanish League, top four. The Italian League, top four. The Premier League in England, top four. The Belgian. MLS. No. It's just over there. They're scared of it. Nonetheless, top four teams in all the leagues in Europe go into the Champions League. They play in the middle of the week. It is the one, I guess. This is what we're trying to do. Had the championship this past weekend, and it was an electrifying affair that came down to penalties. It came down to penalties. Now, this guy that scored this one is an absolute star. He goes by the name of Ramos from PSG.

2:16:29Pat McAfee:Hey! Upper 90. Then let's go to Yorquez out of Arsenal. Go on, lad. Absolutely. Then here is Duwe from Merci beaucoup. And then let's go to Mendes here. He's a little cheeky, trying to get the goalie to decide which way he goes. What's he doing? Yanks it. He yanks it. He can't do that, pal. What happens next? Well, PSG follows up. Bryce. What a save. Save. Arsenal. Goal! Bryce right there. Bryce right there. Once again, penalties here. It's best of five. Can certainly win it. Cannot miss another one. Arsenal. Nader. Absolute snipe. PSG puts it away. Now, what are you going to do with it, pal? He's been there, guy.

2:17:16Pat McAfee:He said, I want to take a penalty. I want to go last. Into the stands. And PSG wins the Champions League in Paris, goes up in flames as the Parisians celebrate the hell out of the Champions League. Congrats to PSG. Unbelievable. Back to back. And congratulations to the lads who stepped up and took the penalties and the goalie that made some big-time stops. We think the World Cup should potentially just be penalty kicks. It's not a bad idea. But I guess they'll play all the other stuff before that. It was funny. As they were going to penalties, the announcer said, All right, now we go to a gimmick carnival game to figure out this match.

2:17:51Is that really what they said? Yeah.

2:17:52Pat McAfee:And we're saying let's do that all the time. I appreciate the – I do people hate penalties. I fucking love – I mean, I love the game too, obviously. Then they have a mandatory 30-minute OT. But for it to come down to penalties, like everyone knows exactly what it is. You get – you know, at that point in the team, a lot of players were subbed out. But you still – like the drama of it, like knowing, hey, best – Like, it was insane. And then for it to come down, you know, Big Gabby, he's our guy. He wanted it. He wanted it. That's not his thing. His penalties aren't his thing. But he's our guy. He called it.

2:18:25And missed it. And that happens. But. What an idiot. But. At least he took the shot. We're still the champs. We had a great parade. A great, right? I mean, people came out over a million and a half. Yeah, pretty close to Liverpool. Only like 500 ,000 less than Liverpool parade. So still the champs. Footy won on Saturday. Oh, my God. Unethical footy is what Arsenal plays. start time wasting 10 minutes into the game. So congratulations to the footy world on PSG going back to that.

2:18:49Pat McAfee:I did see Guerrilla do a little speech about one team's trying to play the beautiful game. The other one's just trying to clog it up and do bullshit. Oh, it's all that as well. It feels like ethical ball one this weekend. Across the board. Across the board. Good for sport. Huge for sport. Huge for sport. And the penalty thing, why does that even matter? For all seven games? What's that? The World Cup ended on penalties last year and it was like the coolest, last time the World Cup happened when it was Argentina-French and it was like the greatest thing ever. Yeah, I don't know. I think just because there's no running, there's no strategy.

2:19:19It's not indicative of the beautiful game. It's nothing like the actual game. Don't you have 120 minutes to try to win the game the beautiful way?

2:19:27Pat McAfee:That is 120 minutes of action and obviously building and pacing and laying a foundation and working and strategizing and trying not to die. But, yeah, you give me penalty kicks. I mean, I'm going to watch. We'll be in comparison. Are those predetermined? Sorry. Are you predetermined on your PK? I'm sorry, D. But, like, those guys that are kicking it, are they predetermined before they kick it? All right, I'm going bottom right. So, the guys that go slow, the guys that go slow, that was a tactic that kind of got added in, I don't know, over the last maybe 10, 15 years. Like the choppy steps? Yeah, like the guys that go slow.

2:19:58Pat McAfee:That guy knew where he was going immediately. The choppy step guys, they're normally trying to read the goalie, you know. And then there's the guys that are going right down the middle every once in a while. Who's that named after, Gumpy? the Panenka yeah it's right down the middle I think he was the first one to start doing that whenever goalies jump but this guy right here is trying to read the goalie is he going to jump early no so if he's not going to jump early then if you hit a ball with pace you know it's going to go in if you go there so the reading of the goalie kind of became a thing for me uh I was a guy that took these for basically every team I was on I'm going as hard as I fucking can to the right half of the net so that I'm going to the right half of the net and I'm as hard as I fucking can hit this ball.

2:20:36Pat McAfee:And normally we'll go first. So if the guy stops it, at least he's going to, I mean, we're going to feel it, you know, and you set the tone. It used to be best kicker goes fifth. But that guy obviously never done it before. Then strategies kind of changed. Like actually we need to go early to kind of stay in this thing. Might not get there, right? Kind of set the tone. Yeah, so there's a lot of strategy in who goes where. Big Gabby has never taken one before, I guess, for Arsenal. He had had a great year for Arsenal this year. Phenomenal year. And he came out and said he wanted it. And that's a big deal being the fifth guy.

2:21:05Pat McAfee:and he'll learn from this moment. And PSG will celebrate the hell out of who they are. But, yeah, right there, I think he was trying to read the goalie, then kind of got caught in it, and then he saw the goalie not move, so then he tried to blast it. It's a lot of thinking. For me, I wanted to take the thinking out. Rip it. The ref made him respot it too. Like he made him move the ball, so he had to bend over, move it. As soon as he picked it up to move it to a different spot, there's no way he was scoring. Yeah, because, you know, the spot can be beat down a little bit, so if you put it on the edge, there might be a little bit of a fluff, like a natural tee, but if the ref doesn't think it's on the spot enough, they can have you move that, and then you're back down in the poop, because the ball could potentially have it beaten down.

2:21:44Pat McAfee:Speaking of the poop, is the turf going to be okay? I saw a Senegal guy starting. That was like a Mythbusters thing. I didn't know balls could bounce that low after hitting the ground. What's going on with the grass, Gumpy? Are we embarrassing ourselves on a world stage for this World Cup, pal? No, that was just for a friendly. It's not for a World Cup. No World Cup games will be played in Charlotte. And actually, the game went off really well yesterday. no issues with the grass there so all is well congrats to america pulling it off we've done it again congrats we've done it again it seems like we always get to the bottom of it always do we do really with everything not with everything i think damn near nothing we don't want to talk about anything outside of sports right now no okay but like sports we get to the nothing matters outside of sports so why would we care i think there's something that matters i didn't know it existed it was pretty important like what here's the final full trade terms here from miles garrick and traded to Los Angeles.

2:22:34Pat McAfee:Browns received Jared Verse, a 2027 first-round pick, a 2028 second, and a 2029 third. Okay, so we knew there was going to be a little bit of a sweetener in there, we thought, for Miles Garrett. Obviously, MVP player. Second round and then a third round as well, which they can bundle. They have two firsts already. You can potentially bundle these extra ones to get another first. There's a chance that the Cleveland Browns are stocked and loaded with first-round picks moving forward, which means Andrew Barry is going to be there for at least another 10 years. We shall assume he gets a chance to rebuild this thing.

2:23:01Pat McAfee:Who's their quarterback? We don't know, but we know they're loaded. Tone, how do you feel about the trade compensation for the Browns potentially being great in the future if they're able to nail this all? It feels a little light. They got hoes. Yeah, that feels a little light. Jared Verse. He's going to have to bundle. I was expecting multiple twos after. You can move the two and a three potentially. You can bundle that. But they're in three different years. Yeah, exactly. I think you can bundle those to make a move. Good luck. I don't know. Jared Verse is unbelievable. He's not Myles Garrett.

2:23:30Pat McAfee:No, he's not. But he's a total sack. Here's the Rams' first-round pick since 2016. Field Yates is tweeting Jared Goff, which obviously would eventually get moved. And then, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Remember the fuck-those-picks type situation. Jared Verse eventually traded a Miles Garrett deal. None. Then Ty Simpson comes. And then guess what? We don't got one next year. And probably not going to have one the next year as well. Because we're going to have to figure out some salary cap issues. We've got to dance around. So we'll probably be moving and grooving in that. How many of these can we trade?

2:23:55Pat McAfee:Can we trade 2035? We'd like to move that one as well. If we get Miles Garrett on the team, we are pumped. You think the Browns got hosed? I do. We're talking about a generational play. I know you made the Matt Stafford comparison, which is a good one because of the position Matt Stafford plays, but this is like Peyton Manning being traded in his prime before he got over the hump and won a Super Bowl. As far as when you're looking at the resume of Miles Garrett and him still being only 30 with the guys and how long guys are playing now, yeah, I need multiple firsts, multiple seconds in the next two years for this to make sense.

2:24:31But we'll see. Maybe Jared Verge, he hits another level his third year. He runs off 20 sacks. You know, you do something with the second-round pick, the first-round pick. We'll see. But it's a big time. But also, you got to factor in the fact that Myles Garrett didn't want to be there, and he did his fair share of potting. He's a great player. He did a lot of potting. A lot of potting. But he did some potting, just like A.J. Brown. Great receiver. Once you get to potting, you got to make some decisions. So we'll see how it plays out.

2:24:59Pat McAfee:Miles Garrett is the Los Angeles Ram. A.J. Brown is still a Philadelphia Eagle. What will happen over the next 24 hours? We shall see. Thank you all for allowing us to do this for a living. Draft Kings available nationwide. Woo! Woo! Hell yeah! Hell yeah. There's a couple states I think that aren't going to be able to do some of our... In due time. They're long. Our exclusive markets, but it'll get around. We will earn the trust of the markets through our special events that will be taking place. One of them will be happening on June 11th. announcement TBD probably tomorrow. Okay. People are going to enjoy this.

2:25:31Pat McAfee:I think... That's going to be a fun one. We're going to try our best to make sports better. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We understand that the position in which we are in is a very important one, I think. Getting a chance to chit-chat about sports every single day and kind of guide sports conversations, not guide it, but be a part of guiding sports conversations and thoughts is a huge honor that we are thankful for. We will continue to try to make this sports world even better, even though we think it's already the greatest thing to ever exist. Be a friend to other friends. Have a nice, it might change your life.

2:25:58Pat McAfee:We're going to sing together. Great work, boys. Great work, brother. Talk, great video. Talk. Alright. Miles Garrett's a Ram. Crazy.

2:26:12Pat McAfee:That's crazy to us. I wonder if it's crazy to you. We appreciate the hell out of you. And we will see you tomorrow. Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.