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Topic Recap and analysis of NBA Finals Game 3 (June 9, 2026) at Madison Square Garden: Spurs’ response to early Knicks momentum, Victor Wembanyama’s historic night, Jalen Brunson’s struggles, and the officiating controversy. The hosts also discuss the broader “Wemby vs. Brunson” narrative and what it means for the series going forward.
Guests (backgrounds)
Brian Windhorst
ESPN basketball insider and author; describes calling an NBA Finals game for the first time.
Erik Johnson
ESPN NHL/ESPN sports personality (later segment mentions NHL pundit role).
George Kittle
NFL player (San Francisco 49ers; referenced as a guest in the intro).
Peter Schrager
NFL reporter/analyst (NFL media).
Nelly Korda
professional golfer (LPGA star).
Ilia Topuria
UFC fighter (MMA champion-level star).
Justin Gaethje
UFC fighter (top-tier contender).
Darius Butler
former NFL player and men’s/summer league champion (hosts credit his competitive background).
AJ Hawk
former NFL linebacker and sports commentator (former Packers player).
Key claims Wembanyama “punched the Knicks in the mouth” early and played the full fourth quarter; his 22-and-under stat line is framed as historically elite (35 points, 5 rebounds mentioned). Spurs’ defensive adjustments (not double-teaming Brunson as much; “back to basics”) helped reduce Knicks open looks. Brunson’s shooting/turnover balance was abnormal for him; the hosts argue he’s being “sent back in time” by Spurs pressure. Referee decisions and missed/overturned calls fueled Knicks fans’ belief the refs “took over,” though hosts reject a conspiracy. De’Aaron Fox hit a major late clutch shot despite a high ankle sprain.
Notable examples Knicks’ second-quarter surge (42 points cited) and multiple scrums/physicality incidents. Wembanyama’s three-point play that was overturned (framed as a turning-point officiating moment). Fox’s biggest shot with 12 seconds left to make it a five-point game. Mention of Ramona Shelburne playing through two sprained ankles.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGratitude for Opportunities
0:45 to 2:06
Hosts express gratitude for the opportunity to call an NBA Finals game.
“and all the parties that had to, because Josh DeMaro, I think, even had to come, Adam Silver had to come in on this decision.”
Game Highlights and Wemby's Impact
2:06 to 4:00
Discussion about the NBA Finals game, highlighting Wemby and the Spurs' performance.
“But we are pumped and thankful to be chatting about it all.”
Atmosphere and Crowd Experience
4:00 to 6:12
Hosts share their experiences and observations about the crowd and atmosphere at Madison Square Garden.
“who goes absolutely apeshit in the garden.”
In-Game Observations
6:12 to 7:25
Insights into game dynamics, referee decisions, and key player performances.
“I guess there probably was meaner bunch.”
Physicality and Strategy in the Game
7:25 to 10:07
Analysis of the physical nature of the game and strategic plays on the court.
“You felt like you were a part of something.”
Referee Controversies and Reactions
10:07 to 11:47
Discussion surrounding controversial referee calls and their impact on the game.
“Yeah, you sure they're filming inside the NBA right now?”
Wemby's Historic Performance
11:47 to 14:00
Highlighting Wemby's performance and its significance in NBA history.
“Let alone the Josh Hart and Cornette situation that took place where there was a kick and then there was somebody off the bench.”
Reflections on NBA Finals Game 3
14:00 to 15:11
Discussion on the officiating and performance in Game 3 of the NBA Finals.
“Can't have three missed opportunities in the NBA Finals, especially after a sweep in the Conference Finals.”
Game Day Experience at Madison Square Garden
16:20 to 18:06
Brian shares his experience and highlights from the game at MSG.
“And what are we missing potentially that hasn't been talked about with this Spurs team?”
Wemby's Impact on the Finals
18:06 to 19:59
Analysis of Wembenyama's performance and its effect on the game.
“near it, but I was admiring it did you take photos at least, did you do the photos?”
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Brunson's Role and Struggles
19:59 to 23:08
Discussion on Jalen Brunson's performance and struggles during the series.
“And I think the fact that he had two days off between two and three with the travel day, I think that might have helped him.”
Spurs' Future Looks Bright
23:08 to 26:17
The future of the Spurs is discussed, highlighting young talent and potential.
“And I've loved watching him and learning about him play.”
Importance of Game 4
26:17 to 28:00
Discussion on the significance of Game 4 in the series and team strategies.
“Could you imagine if they win one at this?”
NBA Finals Game 3 Breakdown
28:00 to 29:28
Analyzing the critical aspects of Game 3 of the NBA Finals and player performances.
“now it's a best of three with two of the three in San Antonio, and I know the home teams seem to be losing.”
Injuries and Player Toughness
29:28 to 31:22
Discussing the impact of player injuries on performance and the toughness required in the finals.
“as we continue to talk about last night's finals game three in Madison Square Garden.”
Ramona Shelburne's Heroics
31:22 to 33:52
Highlighting Ramona Shelburne's dedication with her injuries and her performance.
“He's, he may ever have in his career because, you know, I know the castle three got him over the hump.”
LeBron James' Future Speculations
33:52 to 36:50
Speculating on LeBron James' future with the Lakers and potential negotiations.
“there's a pursuit of this by every great.”
College Baseball World Series Excitement
36:50 to 42:01
Discussing the excitement surrounding the College Baseball World Series and West Virginia's journey.
“I think the best place for him is to be a Laker, okay?”
NHL Finals Discussion with Eric Johnson
42:01 to 45:54
Insights into the ongoing NHL finals and team dynamics.
“as Bruce is really wailing away about 10 diesel Mic Ultras in there on the far left as he's trying to record down the line.”
Vegas IV Trends and Culture
45:55 to 48:25
A humorous take on the IV culture in Las Vegas and athlete wellness.
“And then at some point, you know, like Horno is mentioned and other people have, you know, they became the villains because they started trading for, you know, the Noah Hannafins and the Tomas Hurdles.”
The Evolution of Tight End University
49:16 to 52:50
Discussion on the growth and impact of Tight End University.
“Raising Cane's, Bud Light, Cutwater, Dude Wipes, Reese's, New Era, Novartis, Lules, Kinders.”
Future of the Tight End Position
52:51 to 56:00
Exploration of the tight end role's evolution and mentoring future players.
“I think that makes you look bad if I give you all the credit.”
Tight End University Insights
56:00 to 59:00
Learn about the evolving tight end position and upcoming superstars.
“But like, you really have to bring everybody together and like, just like, Hey, take down your walls.”
Country Music Concert Announcement
59:00 to 1:00:24
Details on the upcoming country music concert at Tight End University.
“So you just didn't want to say his name.”
Mike Evans and Professionalism
1:00:24 to 1:03:08
Discussion on Mike Evans' impact and professionalism within the team.
“We're also hosting a country music concert.”
San Francisco 49ers Season Outlook
1:03:08 to 1:05:02
George Kittle shares excitement for the upcoming season with new players.
“Christian McCaffrey has built like a statue, actually.”
San Francisco 49ers Season Outlook
1:05:11 to 1:06:02
George Kittle shares excitement for the upcoming season with new players.
“But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back.”
NBA Finals and Historical Trophies
1:06:55 to 1:10:00
Discussion on the NBA Finals and the historical significance of the Lordo trophy.
“Although teams have gone back-to-back, it is certainly abnormal.”
Analyzing Game Scoring Trends
1:10:00 to 1:11:20
Discussion on scoring trends and player performances in recent games.
“So if we were doing what we did last night, we would take the under.”
AJ Hawk Joins the Conversation
1:11:20 to 1:12:03
Introduction of AJ Hawk and his insights on recent game performances.
“We're sitting in front row in the front corner watching sign language people that entire night.”
Recap of NBA Finals Atmosphere
1:12:03 to 1:15:30
AJ Hawk shares his experience at the recent NBA finals and highlights from the game.
“I want the over and Stoner's boner graphic.”
The Rising Stars in the NBA
1:15:30 to 1:17:21
Discussion about new stars in the NBA and their impact on the game.
“So thank you to everybody that did that, including you.”
Shams Charania's Influence in the NBA
1:17:21 to 1:19:20
Exploring Shams Charania's impact and recent controversies surrounding him.
“Why are we wasting energy over here, right?”
New York City and Knicks Culture
1:19:20 to 1:23:51
Discussion of the Knicks' importance to NYC and the recent atmosphere in the city.
“I saw Tariko was on this list, which is crazy because I was literally just calling that guy last week saying, I need everything you know.”
New York City Vibes and Game Atmosphere
1:24:00 to 1:25:18
The hosts discuss their recent experience in New York City and the atmosphere of the NBA game.
“I think New York people know that, and I think the rest of the country knows that, which is why they potentially just immediately say, I hate those people over there.”
Celebrity Attendance and Game Dynamics
1:25:18 to 1:27:14
Discussion about celebrity attendance at the game and the impact on the overall experience.
“I know the president was obviously an outlier for what usually happens.”
NFL Updates and Trades Discussion
1:27:14 to 1:31:51
The hosts transition to NFL news, focusing on trades and player updates.
“I don't know if that's a normal, but I don't know how he doesn't sweat with how much energy is just always seemingly ready.”
Program Feud Announcement
1:31:51 to 1:34:38
The hosts announce and discuss the upcoming Program Feud competition against NFL Live.
“Obviously, we know Schrags has all the details on them.”
Excitement for Program Feud and Team Dynamics
1:35:30 to 1:38:00
The hosts express their enthusiasm for the Program Feud and discuss team dynamics.
“Okay, well, there's free-to-plays that you can win.”
Peter Schrager's Insights on Game Day
1:38:00 to 1:40:58
Discussion about game day preparations and the unique live format for Thursday's event.
“It's not in the guidelines you guys are allowed to do.”
Transition to Nelly Korda
1:40:58 to 1:41:59
Introduction of Nelly Korda and discussions about her recent golf performance.
“Wait until you see what we got for Schrager.”
Nelly Korda's Winning Mentality
1:41:59 to 1:43:45
Nelly shares her perspective on mental toughness and her recent successes in golf.
“I think she's been in the top eight of every tournament this year.”
Golf Strategies and Scrambling
1:43:45 to 1:45:58
A deep dive into Nelly's approach to scrambling during tournaments and maintaining focus.
“You know, playing at a venue like Riviera, you can't be unhappy.”
Course Conditions and Adjustments
1:45:58 to 1:50:16
Nelly discusses how course conditions can change the game strategy during tournaments.
“I think he was quoted as saying it's the best scrambling anyone's ever done like in the history of the U.S.”
Advice for Golf Enthusiasts
1:50:16 to 1:52:00
Nelly shares tips for improving golf skills, particularly for beginners like Darius Butler.
“in the early part of the day, he knew that it was going to be really windy.”
LeBron's Golfing Journey and Shoe Stories
1:52:00 to 1:59:19
Explore LeBron's golfing skills and Nelly Korda's shoe preferences.
“Yeah, and we assume LeBron's going to figure it out, but I do appreciate the fact that you're saying we need quiet legs, Bron.”
UFC 250 Press Conference Insights
1:59:31 to 2:06:00
Discussion about the UFC 250 event and the fighters' mindsets leading up to the fight.
“Sports are the greatest, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chit-chat about them every single day.”
The Build-Up to the Fight
2:06:00 to 2:09:08
The fighters discuss their strategies and mental states leading up to their match.
“Justin, the only thing that I can tell you is that you're going to feel something that you never felt.”
Body and Weight Management Before the Fight
2:09:08 to 2:12:04
The fighters share insights on their physical preparation and weight management for the upcoming bout.
“King, Ilya, I would like to ask you a question.”
The Unique Fight Environment
2:12:04 to 2:14:16
Discussion about the unusual conditions of the fight venue and how it impacts the fighters.
“I just want to pump up his ego because he's so full of shit.”
Previewing the Upcoming UFC Event
2:14:16 to 2:16:31
The hosts and fighters discuss the significance and excitement surrounding the upcoming event.
“You're going to feel something you've never felt before.”
Post-Game Reactions and NHL Updates
2:20:01 to 2:23:10
Discussion about the excitement of recent NBA and NHL playoff games.
“And shout out to the NBA playoffs and the NBA finals here.”
Paul Skeens and His Impact on Pittsburgh Baseball
2:23:11 to 2:27:44
Highlighting Paul Skeens' interaction with a Little League team and his role in revitalizing Pittsburgh baseball.
“Yeah, as an ambassador for the game, for the city, for the Pirates, he's been unbelievable.”
World Baseball Classic Critique
2:27:45 to 2:30:34
Criticism of the World Baseball Classic and its impact on player injuries and team performance.
“thank you for taking us on the ride that we went on with you guys.”
Program Feud Announcement and Gameplay
2:30:35 to 2:34:01
Announcement of the upcoming Program Feud and discussion about its format and participants.
“I'm going to fucking dive in on this, too.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the Thunderdome on this Stanley Cup Tuesday June 9, 2026 this sports program begins right now. Sports! One of the greatest and we had the incredible opportunity as I glow here in a brand new shirt I got off Amazon just a couple days ago. going to have to change this one. Sorry for the glow across your screen, whether it's on a TV or on your phone or on an iPad or however you watch us. We just want to say thank you because last night we had the chance to experience something that was just absolutely incredible. I mean, having a chance to sit in there, not only call an NBA Finals game, in which I've never done before, so thank you to ESPN, Mike Foss, new executive, Burke and Jimmy, and all the parties that had to, because Josh DeMaro, I think, even had to come, Adam Silver had to come in on this decision.
0:50Pat McAfee:A lot of people that we've done business with and have become good friends with have provided now an opportunity for us to do multiple things. The primetime opportunity where we have said in the past during conversations with these fine folks that we've done business with, like, hey, if you ever have one of these opportunities, I know you offer it to these people. There's other production companies that get offered opportunities to build things and do things. There's people within ESPN senior leadership that get the opportunity to do things whenever there's programming that opens up or whatever.
1:15Pat McAfee:We just wanted the opportunity to be able to do the same. So them giving us that opportunity as a completely outside entity that has obviously built a great relationship with them over the last few years is incredibly cool, and we're very thankful for it. We understand that nobody gets these types of opportunities these days, and every time we do it, we want to enjoy the hell out of it, make the most out of it, and be an asset to sports. We genuinely feel that way. That is how we feel about everything. So getting a chance to do what we did last night, as Tracy Morgan right there just said that the Statue of Liberty was going to get pregnant tonight if the New York Knicks were able to get a win over the Spurs, which they did not.
1:48Pat McAfee:Shout out to Wemby going crazy. But getting a chance to be a part of that is so stupid. It is so dumb. And we're so thankful for it. And it's only because people watch our shit. So thank you for all of that. And we'll continue to be grateful and we'll continue to try to enjoy it all. Airspace shut down. Long time. Long time. Long time around there. Yeah. How come? So it was a late night, obviously. Early morning as well. But we are pumped and thankful to be chatting about it all. Great game at Madison Square Garden. A bunch of swings and runs and a couple stars coming out of nowhere. And a man named Victor Wembenyana saying, excuse me, I feel like you have forgotten about who you were talking about.
2:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, I might have been drawing some shit down there at Central Park. And I might have been shooting at Rucker Park. And you might see me walking with the monks. And I might be new here. And I might be French, which some people will hold against me, however they'll hold against me. But I am one of the ones. And who are one of the ones? Oh, they're the ones that are at the top of the food chain whenever it comes to sports. Their competitive spirit seemingly more than everybody else. Their dog mentality in the biggest moments, especially when their backs are against the wall, show up. That is why we have the people at the top of the sports world that we all know.
2:57Pat McAfee:In our head, we all just thought of the exact people that are at the top of the sports world in the history. Wemby is trying to prove that he deserves to be there. And what we're seeing early is this guy answers things. Now, he might have to learn some shit here. He is making a name for himself that is among other names that will be etched in stone in basketball forever already as a 22-year-old or whatever the case is. But this Spurs team in whole, dogs across the board, including their coach. And I think this entire series run throughout the playoffs has been a nice hello, it's us, okay? We're a team.
3:28Pat McAfee:But also learning. I mean, they've made a lot of mistakes throughout this playoff series. There's been moments at the end of the game where they get a rebound and nobody has a clue what's going to happen with six seconds left. Everybody's looking to the sideline. It's like, hey, we should have a plan for this. There's been moments wherever Wemby's passing the ball off the back of a guy and they're making massive mistakes there's been some moments where maybe games didn't go the way that it was supposed to go because maybe a couple guys didn't show up Darren Fox was getting called out for what the last three weeks yeah for everything that he's been through there so there's been growing pains with the Spurs team that we're watching live during this playoff series on primetime every single night and last night what a moment for this team what a moment for their story what a moment for Wemby what a moment for Stefan Castle who goes absolutely apeshit in the garden.
4:06Pat McAfee:And what a night in New York City. Everybody was there. Perk said, I heard more hostile environments. And Perk was unbelievable. Q Rich was unbelievable. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, men's league champ. Summer league champ down there in South Florida. Darius J. Butler, you were awesome. The toxic table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt who were up in the rafters underneath the banners in Madison Square Garden, which is crazy to even think about. And then one half of the hammer, Don Cowboys AP tone along Evan Fox and Nick Moraldo and Gumpy back in Bristol where we are working now for the first time on one of these alongside ESPN folks.
4:44Pat McAfee:Hell yeah. So it's like, it's been a nice, it's just been a bit. You crushed it too. You crushed it. It's been a very. First time, like, obviously huge moment, completely different game, different flow. Like, you did your thing. I was really intrigued. Driving the boat. I was really intrigued on how it was going to go. Yeah. Shout out to Mike Tirico. I called him. Go. I got a chance to chat with him. I watched like three of his games, you know, over the playoffs there, just back to back to back over the last couple of days multiple times. Like, that's why when everybody was like immediately just attacking us, it's like, have we not proved yet that at least we're going to try here?
5:14Pat McAfee:Like, I think with our field pass, I think we should have proven that. I think, like, we are trying to not be asses. We're trying to be ass sets. You see, that is what we are trying to do. And I hope people will come around to realize that. But we just wanted to do it justice, and I'll make a mockery out of it. And we understood it was a big deal, especially me trying to call a basketball game. But Tirico helping me, the entire basketball community helping me out. Obviously, Perk, Kierich, incredible to lean on them. Tracy Morgan comes by with Tina Fey. Yeah, right. Schrags are running around.
5:47Pat McAfee:Dan Haasen. I wonder what he's saying now, huh? Uh-oh. Uh-oh, that's the first loss I've seen. I think there's an ace in the hole for that one, though. Yeah, I think there's a chance President Haasen has a potential. what am I supposed to do here? The face paint can only do so much. But it was awesome. Madison Square Garden people were nice to us. The NBA people were nice to us. We got lost like four or five times. Everybody we encountered was awesome. The crowd, I thought, though. Yep. I thought it was loud as hell. Yeah. Perk said he seemed more hostile. I guess there probably was meaner bunch.
6:15Pat McAfee:I didn't expect Nick's crowd to be as, I don't want to say positive, but they were super positive. That was a great, I thought it was a great atmosphere last night. Great crowd, great atmosphere. Heard Perk said, I think I heard Paul Pierce said, too. And these guys, obviously, they played a long time in the NBA. And they've been, you know, both of those guys played at the TD Garden. So they know all about hostile environments. So you got to take those guys' word for it. You know, people have gone in there and stepped up to the moment. We saw Wimby do it last night. We all know the Michael Jordan double nickel game.
6:43We've seen Steph go off. We've seen Trey Young go off. And then that crowd, you know, obviously with the ticket prices, how authentic of a Knicks crowd was it? It felt authentic to me, but at the same time, that was my first time in Madison Square Garden. So they were loud. I think they'll show up again. It was weird. I felt like the Knicks almost were more nervous or played more nervous, more nervy than the Spurs team did. They're a younger team, obviously Wimby, but Stephon Castle, you mentioned him who has a ton of experience in that building, in those environments with the Big East tournaments and things like that.
7:13And then Dylan Harper doing his thing. You talked about it, Darren Fox making one of the most clutch shots in the game. So it was a great job by Mitch Johnson and the squad, and now we get to see him again tomorrow.
7:24Pat McAfee:Yeah, it was phenomenal to be here. I mean, that was sweet. You felt like you were a part of something. Because it was like Robert Kraft was there, obviously there. Everybody from everything. Cardi B. Told Cardi B she was GOAT. Mm-hmm. Nice little hand. Nice little dab. Is that her name still? There seemed to be only a few. Charles Barkley wins a lot of awards. Yep. Still got it. Mm-hmm. I'm excited to see Cardi's react. Yeah, no. Certainly. She heard. Yeah, she's got incredible moxie, as we all know. So where she was located was near where we were located. But what I had noticed is only people that were really heading down towards where they were going, I mean, did not look like I looked like.
8:06Pat McAfee:So before we go out to do the game, I had to finally say, hey, are white people allowed to go down there? And she goes, why are you saying that? You're stupid from the room. And I go, okay, sick. And I go down there. What's going on? Yeah, Carter, you're going, what's up, man? I'm Pat. Very nice to meet you. You silly. Why'd you say that? I said, okay. All right, I'm out. I got a quality game party, and I dipped out of there. She obviously had an incredible performance. The Lasers. Oh, sick. I mean, obviously, it's Madison Square Garden. It's New York, so it's the most prestigious, obviously, the mecca of performance.
8:35Pat McAfee:So everybody wants to do their show there, so they have to be capable to basically pull off everything. I thought the show was spectacular as well. The National Anthem. Unbelievable. That guy was awesome. Avery Wilson, I believe his name, he killed it. Like you said, the light show. and where we were sitting, it was kind of like we were on, like, the direct, like, the same height level. It was crazy, like, the details of it, you know, because we know the building itself has been there forever. But it felt like a building that was, you know, just built as far as, you know, the tech and stuff in it.
9:04It was unbelievable. The environment was crazy. It was sweet. And then, obviously, we got the opportunity to call the game. But being down on the court pregame, like, we're standing there, like, obviously, you see all the – Yeah, we just – that was – It was outrageous.
9:20Pat McAfee:I saw the biggest star down there was Utterguy. I'll tell you what, San Francisco did have a good piece of real stuff. He was up there. That was the thing. We're like, because we get these credentials. Not supposed to have these credentials. We know we're not supposed to have these credentials. The people who are looking at us know that we're not supposed to have them. But we look at them, and it says C, F, and some other one. I'm like, I think that F is floor. I think that C is court. I think we know credentials now a little bit. So there was multiple people where we had to be like, where are we allowed to go?
9:48Pat McAfee:and they were like, wherever you want basically. Yeah, you can go wherever you want. Wherever there's paint on the floor, you can kind of go. And I was like, okay. So then I walk two more steps. I find somebody. I'm like, hey, am I allowed? Are we allowed to just go right there? Yeah, wherever you want to go. I was like, okay. And then what if we want to get to the other side? We got to go out and run. They're like, nah, just walk on, just go around. I'm like, Wemby's warming up out there. Yeah, you sure they're filming inside the NBA right now? You had a sports center hit from there. Bro, like, ball girl Christine absolutely crushing it there.
10:17Pat McAfee:But, I mean, I was a part of the warm-ups with these guys. I watched Mitchell Robinson miss maybe 10 to 11 straight shots. I didn't know that was possible. Free throws or just in general? Layups, ball throws. It was unbelievable. Bismack Biambo. You're right behind him just talking shit to him. Yeah, and I was almost swatting his ball. But Mitchell Robinson, okay, I saw him miss these shots. I'm worried. I'm like, fuck, I got the over here. This guy, Mitch, you got to make something. I mean, is the hoop smaller? His opponent was one and a half. Exactly, and everybody came up to me. Brother, come on, we ain't worried about Mitchell.
10:47Pat McAfee:Do you know we're not worried about Mitchell Robinson? I'm like, yes, I know, but kind of, though. I mean, should we not be a little bit? Not at all. Vibes, physicality, defense, don't you worry about this. Boards. And he did, by the way, with a broken pinky. I mean, he is, Doc. O.J. Ananobi has massive superstar night. Everything seemingly in that second quarter going the New York Knicks way. Crowd, 42 points, I think it's the most they've ever scored in the finals or whatever in that quarter. And then coming out of half, it was like the Spurs, once again, this young team. Boom. Just comes back and continues to answer.
11:19Pat McAfee:It was a heavyweight fight. Ollie Frazier. Yeah. With the two young battles. Two young stars, I mean. The physicality, very real, too. I don't know how we missed this. That's on me. I think I was down here looking at Shabbat, Dammit, and Vassell kind of doing their thing. Or maybe I was looking elsewhere. But I don't know how I missed the two biggest stars in real time with my eyes on the court watching the game. Having this type of moment. It was sent into the group later. Didn't know if it was right for us to go back and revisit it. But it was a very physical game. And I'll say this. Got three scrums and three different.
11:51Pat McAfee:Yeah, I mean, it was very physical. Let alone the Josh Hart and Cornette situation that took place where there was a kick and then there was somebody off the bench. It was very, very, very physical last night. Any time that ref said something positive for the Knicks, though, it did feel like a surprise. Yeah. You know, like the Knicks fans and Coach Brown coming out saying, these refs look at the free throws. 24-8. And every time that guy went to that microphone that wouldn't stop, can we get that thing Velcroed down, by the way? Because he's talking here and then everything moves. He's over here and he did it a hundred times.
12:22Pat McAfee:Felt like he was on an ISO. More than Ed Hockley had ever been on an ISO. He looked very good, professional, obviously in shape. They got to run a lot. A lot of running in basketball. You notice that every time you see it there. But if it went the Knicks way, it was a surprise, seemingly. And there was a couple challenges, overturns, points, taken off the board. Obviously, Wemby made it three and then it was overturned their way. That was like a big surprise. But the Knicks coming out and saying they didn't like the ref, I love that. I love that. Coach Brown's even alluding to it. It's like, hey, we don't like what's going on here.
12:49Pat McAfee:And that's just the drama of the finals. I think you're going to get that regardless. And the way those calls are happening, it does feel like you can build a narrative. Because we were doing it in real time. Oh, yeah. This is definitely going to be for Spurs here. And then, oh, this is for Spurs. Ooh, for the Spurs. Yet again, it's like you feel it as you're calling it. Knicks fans definitely feeling it, especially the ones that are paying 10 grand to get into the building. Oh, yeah, when we were walking out, that's all we heard. People just yelling, like, hey, make sure you talk about those refs tomorrow.
13:15They were screwing us. But also, you know, in the NBA game, especially one like that where it is that physical, like you almost don't want the refs to be as into it and calling every single ticky-tack thing in the 24-8 second half, you know, free throw stat, well, if you start the half or you start the fourth quarter, rather, with three fouls, yeah, on the first possession, like that might skew some things. But the biggest thing was really just Wemby and Brunson. Like, we got to see a historic night. Like, that night for Wemby, I mean, he was with Magic and Kobe, I think, the only guys 22 and younger with 35 and 5.
13:48And that is something that will live on for a long time. We got to see that and Brunson delivered. It was incredible.
13:53Pat McAfee:Spurs got in the bonus with eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. So that might be a free throw disparity as well. But nonetheless, all the Knicks fans were in agreement. The refs were against. Yeah. And I respect it and appreciate it. Can't have a sweep. Can't have three missed opportunities in the NBA Finals, especially after a sweep in the Conference Finals. The league's not going to let that happen. Network's not going to let it happen. We're probably in on it. Let's ask Bruce Brown. Are we part of this problem as well, you think? I mean, you know, I guess we might be party to it in a sense.
14:24But at the end of the day, you can't have 13 turnovers, and you can't let it be close enough in that fourth quarter to let the refs take it over. but I will say missing the flagrant two on Wemby and then not giving the tech when the Spurs have six men on the court is absolutely insane.
14:40Pat McAfee:He literally, yeah, Dylan Harper was on the court, the pass happened, then there's a flop. That was bullshitting. That was crazy. But once again, it was smart basketball. And once again, that benefited the Spurs. That's like how it did kind of happen that way. And I think those are all just happenstances. Like I think in real time making decisions, I don't think one correlates with the other. I don't think there's a conspiracy. Would there ever be a conspiracy against Knicks, you know, when everybody that's in very important positions in a lot of networks are from new york and new york knicks fans but on that note joining us as a man that might know two time new york times bestseller obviously the inside guy for basketball the guy for a great punditry uh-huh the man who's from nebraska ohio now nebraska ladies and gentlemen brian windhorse
15:30Brian Windhorst:So enjoyed you telling stories from the garden last night. You had such a wide-eyed wonder about it all. It was great. Yeah.
15:37Pat McAfee:And Cardi B and the girls crushed it. Yeah. Hamilton. Oh, Hamilton singing was great because we were in the best thing in the world. It was a lot. Everybody was there. I mean, literally, you saw West Coast folks. Larry David was there. Like, it was New England folks were there. It was just, it felt like an awesome night for history to be made. And the history that was made is like, hey, this Spurs team is for real. They are a team that can answer. Even though they're young, they can walk into the greatest arena, the mecca, the biggest stage, and in front of the whole world, including the biggest stars on earth in a loud arena, can answer.
16:20Pat McAfee:And they continue to do as such. What was your takeaway from last night? And what are we missing potentially that hasn't been talked about with this Spurs team?
16:26Brian Windhorst:Well, I think what you were missing was talking about how big the green room was for inside the NBA. The green room for inside the NBA is the size of the Thunderdome. And the green room for the rest of us at ESPN is the size of an elevator. I'm impressed. I don't know where your green room was, Pat. I didn't get to see your green room.
16:48Pat McAfee:Now we're in a tiny one as well. Inside the NBA, that's the way it be. They have I don't know how many Emmys, all of them?
16:59Brian Windhorst:Their green room has like a lobby And then you go into the green room From the lobby It's incredible To be clear to those guys
17:11Pat McAfee:Congratulations Good on you Absolutely Because there's only so many rooms in the back of these arenas As somebody that put on my own arena show Figuring out who Because there is quite a difference between Room 4 And room 5, 6, 7 10 We need drapes
17:30Brian Windhorst:They have room one Two most impressive things back at house last night Inside the NBA green room And the Trump beast car I didn't see it
17:41Pat McAfee:Where was it? Was it underneath? I did not see the entirety
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17:44Brian Windhorst:That's the thing In MSG It's an arena in the middle of the biggest city in America But if you have the right access You can basically pull up next to the court and the beast that's what they called it, he had two of them this thing was very impressive, I mean it's a very impressive machine you know they weren't letting me anywhere near it, but I was admiring it did you take photos at least, did you do the photos? I mean like, the best accoutrement of the presidency is the jet Air Force but this has got to be in the top 10 yeah, and what's a Marine Force one is the
18:23Pat McAfee:helicopter? I'll tell you what, somebody that was on a helicopter last night for a long time. Shout out to everything that we did last night. It was out of a movie. It was ridiculous what was happening. That helicopter, that was not bad. The one on the way back was phenomenal. Put an Escalade up in the sky and just basically cut off a lot of things. Seeing the city at night too? Yeah, we were being spoiled. Let's stop talking about this. We are not going to change as much as we have. Just know that last night was out of a fucking movie and we were not supposed to be. We tried to enjoy it as much as we did.
18:52Pat McAfee:The movie that's being told now is Wemby's story. And obviously Brunson's as well, as he continues to kind of bring a championship, not only into New York, but be remembered as a hero alongside Josh Hart. Obviously, Mikael Bridges, Cat, Mike Brown being able to do it. If you win for the Knicks, I think you are goaded forever in the biggest city in the United States of America. That's a lot of pressure, but I think Brunson's the right guy for it. What did you see last night is he seemed to be just a little bit off. And then Wemby and the boys showing up in a massive way early, punching the Knicks right in the mouth in front of everybody.
19:23Brian Windhorst:Yeah, man. So, Wembenyama, like, I feel like watching the last two series, you can almost tell in the first, like, two minutes of the game whether he's got it or not. Because normally you sometimes see superstars sort of ease into games. LeBron was famous for this, feeling out games, trying to get teammates going, kind of deciding whether they wanted to be aggressive or they wanted to be a facilitator. Wembenyama, he needs to be deeply invested. At this point in his career, maybe when he gets older he'll change. But games one and two, I felt like he didn't have good energy in game one or game one and game two.
19:56Brian Windhorst:Last night, he had three dunks in the first five minutes. Totally different player. And I think the fact that he had two days off between two and three with the travel day, I think that might have helped him. And I think that could be a factor because only one day, there's just today off, then they play tomorrow, and then the rest of the series is two days off after each game. That could be a factor. The other thing was they went back to basics on defense. So what I mean by that is they've been double-teaming Brunson a lot because they saw how Brunson destroyed the Cleveland Cavaliers. They double-teamed them a lot, and that enabled Brunson to pass out, and the Knicks three-point shooters were crushing the Spurs' defensive strategy.
20:35Brian Windhorst:Ananobi was hitting. Bridges was hitting. Schammett hasn't missed in a month until last night. You know, they were shooting like those supporting guys were killing it. They went to straight defense last night. and instead of having Wembenyama guarding Towns and Towns was really winning that matchup you saw him coming off the court in game two saying he don't have anything for me or whatever he said
20:56Pat McAfee:that's not what he said, you're misquoting him
20:58Brian Windhorst:I don't even remember what he said but it was amazing what he said they took Wembenyama off of him, he was a player they took him off of him, they put him on Josh Hart and I know Hart hit some threes last night but the strategy was to let Wembenyama be the rover and they didn't double team Brunson and so they didn't have as many open looks and the ball ended up, you know, when you double team a guy, he's kind of got a pass. And one of the things that we were seeing from the Knicks was this great passing. Well, Brunson held onto the ball last night a little bit. And look, let's just look. I said this earlier this morning, but I would love to see a group text between Ann Edwards, SGA, and now put Brunson in there about what it's like to play the Spurs.
21:40Brian Windhorst:Because they mess with your head, all right? I said that Shea was in hell in time for that series last time. I mean, his numbers were all down, all right? And Brunson maybe ain't in hell, but he is at the gates. He is shooting 36%, 37%. He has got as many turnovers as he's got assists. This is not who Jalen Brunson is. And so what the Spurs are, we're not going to watch. Can Brunson and the Knicks break out of that? Because they're sending the Knicks back in time to February, March, when they weren't as good of a team.
22:12Pat McAfee:So you talk about Brunson. And there's a lot of times where he's dribbling through the paint and does what every point guard does, where he would maybe take it up or do something like that, where he's going back out to try to get back to that mid-range step back where he's always going to have somebody in his face. And if he's off this much, it's a brick out. And that was what was happening last night very clearly. Then there was a couple moments where he hits a deep three, takes it to the rack. It's like, all right, now here we go. But I think to your point, if Wemby's lurking, which he always is, everybody's scared to get their shit sent because obviously that's a turnover and we're going back the other way and with what Castle was doing and Vassell was doing.
22:44Pat McAfee:And their team was – I mean, Castle last night was so sweet to watch. Unbelievable. I mean, it was like a throwback. He was great. Long shorts, okay, long shorts, flexing on people. The way he plays, his hair is sweet. I mean, the hair is like sweet. Never in his face somehow. The guy might be the greatest ponytail maker in the history of all time. I mean, absolutely ripped. I mean, what a unit. And he lets you know, too, and he lets you know. It's like he is a throwback player. Their guards are big. And I've loved watching him and learning about him play. And then his little throw up to like 13 feet to Wemby, where Wemby's just playing like volleyball, just trying to like bat it down.
23:21Pat McAfee:Area 51. That's going to be a tough thing to stop as they get better at that. I mean, this is Jackie Moon, Coffee Black, fresh off the first dream. This is the first day of the alley-oop. They're going to work that. I mean, he's above. He's above. Back to back rookies of the year. Yeah, exactly. They're only going to learn. Obviously, Mitch Johnson, what, point guard? Yeah. So he's only going to think for Castle more and more, right? Probably is his tyrant. And think for, I mean, coach and like, hey, we can do this, especially with the Wemby operation we have. I think last night why it was so exciting is because you saw two teams.
23:51Pat McAfee:Now, the Knicks have been around each other, obviously, for a long time. But we're going to see them for a while, this team. And obviously, there's a big investment to this team. Rick Brunson was the assistant coach, last coaching staff. He's the assistant coach, this coaching staff. He'll be, if Mike Brown gets fired, probably a part of the next coaching staff. Like, very clearly, this is Jalen Brunson's New York Knicks for a long time. like for as long as Jalen Brunson wants it. And then you look on the Spurs side, and we're watching the 2025 Rookie of the Year, Cass will go absolutely crazy in Madison Square Garden.
24:17Pat McAfee:And then you're watching Wemby kind of have his big, like, don't count me out moment, you know? And it's like, holy hell. Yeah, Harper's 22. Yeah, now he couldn't hit shit from three last night. No, he could not. I mean, if a couple of those fall, this game's a lot different down the stretch as well. I mean, that's a whole different conversation piece as you go there. But whenever he gets – I mean, that team for the next 10 years. At least. And this is why they said we're not doing first-round picks three years in a row, right? Spurs, basically, Wendy, this is potentially why that conversation was had.
24:45Brian Windhorst:Yeah, man, that place was crazy last night, right? And they had a 22-year-old Wendy come in there, have his best game in all the finals. Castle, first off, when they drafted Castle, so this is how that draft went. Zachary Richerche, number one to the Hawks. Yikes. Okay. Number two, Alex Saar, another Frenchman to Wizards. He's showing some things, but he's Steph Castle. Number three, Reed Shepard to the Rockets. I mean, I don't know how Ime Udoka, his son, could be Steph Castle. Like, that's, like, you know, but they went with Shepard for the offense, okay? So they had the fourth pick there. Now, obviously, it's still a high pick, but they crushed that draft.
25:25Brian Windhorst:And I was talking to people at the Spurs, and, like, two weeks into them having him, they were like, we got him. We got him. And the Spurs aren't arrogant. They're like, we got Victor's running mate. We got it. We got it. We hit the jackpot. We got him. I was like, seriously? Guys, it's July. It's September. Like, nope. We got him. And not only that, they love his mindset and his makeup. He's not afraid of anything. And this Harper kid, okay, you're right. Harper didn't make his shots last night. The Spurs were playing really small. One of the things that was giving the Knicks a little bit of trouble on defense was the small.
26:00Brian Windhorst:The guards were really active. So you'd think there would be rebounding issues, which there sometimes are. Harper had five rebounds in the fourth quarter last night. He went to the basket to rebound as aggressively as he went. He's 20. Those three guys in that environment, yes, the Spurs' future is golden.
26:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, especially if they win one here. Could you imagine if they win one at this? You're not supposed to win this young. You're not supposed to win the first time through. And it potentially looked like the Knicks were going to do what the Knicks have done, which is just absolutely dominate. And I'm not saying the Knicks played horrible last night. But, I mean, if they're going to get OG like that on a regular basis, I think they'd take that. And if they can get Jalen Brunson going, because there's moments where Jalen starts playing like Jalen Brunson and then there's just a bunch of misses that happen that don't normally happen.
26:41Pat McAfee:I'm so uncomfortable watching Jalen Brunson miss a shot because I just don't understand. This is like whenever Adam Vinatieri would miss a field goal. Everybody would be so surprised. Like, what? I didn't know this was possible. That's how I feel watching Jalen Brunson. I watched this guy against the Pacers live last year. We watched this guy. All playoffs, everything that left his hand was going into the hoop. It was just whether or not he was going to get the ball because they would be double teamed on and he would have to get through everything. And he would go in slow motion seemingly like Luka, get to his spot, and it's going in.
27:13Pat McAfee:It was so annoying. It's like, hey, stop the guy. This is the guy. Just stop the guy and we'll be able to be good. Nobody has been able to stop him. So whenever you watch him miss so many shots consecutively, it's like this is abnormal. And you think it's the Wemby factor is what you're saying. Can he find that, you think? Or what do you expect from the Knicks in this entirety, from the personality of the team, if you will?
27:32Brian Windhorst:Okay, look, man, I know this is obvious, but my God, what a game tomorrow night. Okay, so the fourth quarter last night was humongous. Wembe Yama played the whole fourth quarter, which he doesn't normally do. That was a crucial thing. Okay, I don't think the Knicks are, the Knicks win tomorrow night, 3-1. The Knicks, you know, you can start playing on the parade. Okay, they ain't going to lose three in a row. But if the Spurs win tomorrow night and double break the Knicks, go home, now it's a best of three with two of the three in San Antonio, and I know the home teams seem to be losing. This series, game four is everything.
28:10Brian Windhorst:It's everything. And Brunson, they need him. And he doesn't have to score 40. They need him to have a really good game, and that might mean passing it. It might mean getting Towns re-engaged. And you know what you were talking about? because I know you're thinking about the last couple years in the playoffs against the Pacers. Brunson is a master of angles, and what he does a lot is he shoots the ball straight up in the air because he's often going up against guys way taller than him. So when the ball comes in the basket, it tends to come in at a crazy angle, and it's almost intimidating the way he makes shots.
28:41Brian Windhorst:Because the ball comes in, it breaks your heart the way it goes through the basket. He's an amazing, amazing player. And so, yeah, he's going up against a 7 '5 guy, and that's going to be a problem, and he's not doing well. But I am not. I will never bet against Jalen Brunson.
28:59Pat McAfee:Defensive player of the year over there. Unanimous. I think he's the second time ever unanimous defensive player of the year voted in Victor Wembin-Yama. But we got, like, SGA young, Wemby young, this whole team young. Jalen's going to be around for a long time. Tyrese is young out here in Indiana. I know people are forgetting about that. Boston, who knows what you guys are going to do. We'll certainly get into that as the offseason goes, but that team's going to be around for a – NBA's in a very good spot right now. And also you got LeBron Lurking, which we'll certainly ask about here in a second as we continue to talk about last night's finals game three in Madison Square Garden.
29:33Pat McAfee:Obviously the Spurs get a huge win, but Stephon Castle steps up. But there was another name that also had a massive moment. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Wendy, we talked about all the young guys, but the second leading scorer on this team is De 'Aaron Fox, who's been around a while, is a star in the league. he hits one of the biggest shots of the night to make it a five-point game with 12 seconds left last night. Do you think that is something that could kind of spur him into... No, good play on words there. Spur him into kind of getting back into this... Yes, I did. Getting back into this series and being a bigger role in this series?
30:05Brian Windhorst:I don't know, man, because that ankle, I don't think it's right. Like, you know, look, I've seen and I hear... Like, Pat, you saw probably Sky do some stuff in locker rooms to be able to play in games, right? Yeah, yeah.
30:18Pat McAfee:AJ Hawk used to drink his own urine. That's not true. I'll defend you, AJ, since you're not here. Ice cold glass of pit before every morning. I don't believe that. I'll carry his water. That's why he plays with bees now. He didn't do that. I thought he put in a syringe with Toradol and shot the piss and tore it all together. Honestly, he might have told you that. I don't remember exactly how he went about it, but I do know, just like Patches, O 'Hulian, There was a recycle in there because he wanted to utilize everything. And he liked it like patches. It tastes good.
30:53Brian Windhorst:Well, Kirk tells some stories, and Shump tells some stories about some stuff they did to play in some finals games. Last year when the finals were over, it turned out Jalen Williams from the Thunder had gotten like 35 injections. He came out and out said it. I don't know if Darren Fox is ever going to tell us, but he's doing some stuff to get himself to play because that ankle ain't right. He's got a high ankle sprain. You can tell. And so he's fighting through it. Now he makes his basket last night. This is as clutch of a shot. He's, he may ever have in his career because, you know, I know the castle three got him over the hump.
31:29Brian Windhorst:That shot right there is what clinched the game is a former Jerry West. About that. Mr. West Virginia, Jerry West player of the year award. He could make that shot. I'm not sure he can give more because he's playing on that bad ankle. It's a high ankle sprain. He's gutting through it. Maybe as the series goes on he can get a little healthier, but I think he's giving him everything he can give him right now.
31:53Pat McAfee:All right, Wendy, final question here. You talk about De 'Aaron Fox on an ankle, bad ankle. Obviously, we appreciate him. Toughness in finals. If we find out – everything we find out about what players play through after the season, we commend and appreciate and respect doing that for our entertainment but also for the good of your team. Ramona Shelbourne also last night, two sprained ankles. Unbelievable. Still doing it. That's correct.
32:15Brian Windhorst:She's waddling around. I told her just to stay in L.A. Don't come out here. And she, by the way, she showed me a picture of her ankle. I didn't want to see that again. Just know she's playing hurt. She is. She's playing hurt. Two sprains. Like Carl Wentz, baby.
32:28Pat McAfee:Two sprains, like Carson Wentz. Exactly. She could have had two boots on last night. That would have been awesome.
32:34Brian Windhorst:Just new boot goofing. She was carrying her three-year-old, who she went back to L.A. to celebrate his birthday. She sprained one ankle carrying him, and she thought she was going to drop him. And to save it, she sprained the other ankle to keep him from crashing to the... On feet. On feet.
32:52Pat McAfee:Down on ground. Ramona. Don't know if they're broken. Don't know. Definitely sprained. She said the teachers had to come out and help her up. Two boots. Two boot goofing. She could have been. Instead, last night, on clouds, walking around. No selling. We appreciate the hell out of that. Okay, last question. That was my first time meeting her. And then we're kind of trickled down. Like, hey, Ramona's fighting right now. Ramona's fighting right now. I'm like, who's Ramona fighting? They're like, two ankles. I'm like, two ankles? What do you mean? Ramona, what are you talking about? She has two sprained ankles currently.
33:27Pat McAfee:And then I watched her walk like a couple steps, and she was not – I mean, that was –
33:32Brian Windhorst:Former star softball player at Stanford. No big deal. Ramona Schilber.
33:36Pat McAfee:But you're saying it was a waddle. I think kind of...
33:40Brian Windhorst:Well, what am I going to say? What am I going to say? I'll take it back. Gingerly walking.
33:44Pat McAfee:No, but it was your words, not mine. It did appear to be a waddle. A hobble. A hobble. Not a waddle. Not a waddle. But it did. And then I went up to her, and then she told me the entire story. I'm like, hey, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Boots on the wood, too. She's out there doing it. Gotta play hurt in the finals. Gotta play hurt in the finals. It's for Larry O., baby. That's right. You're certainly right. Okay, speaking of Larry O. Hell yeah. there's a pursuit of this by every great. How many of you won will certainly be held against you for the rest of time. There's one man that is chasing a goat status that has a lot of options, allegedly.
34:18Pat McAfee:D-Bot has a question for you. Absolutely, Wendy. Can't let you get out of here without asking you about. Now, I'm always reminded that you're from Omaha because I got some bad information from the Thunderdome that you grew up in Akron, Ohio. You played over at St. Vincent. No, I did grow up in Akron. I just live in Omaha. Okay, St. Vincent, St. Mary's team. He's point-bought on team. I got to ask you about your former team. What do you mean bad info? Got it. Okay, it was good info. Think about this shit. I'm sorry. Think about this shit. LeBron. Wendy. Swing it. Yeah. Maverick. Boom. Then LeBron's taking off from the paint.
34:47Brian Windhorst:Maverick was a better wide receiver than he was a basketball player. I stand on that. I don't care what he says. I watched it. Well, that's because you were throwing him the ball.
34:54Pat McAfee:Okay, now, I don't know who you just pissed off by saying that. Okay, so I would like to. I probably pissed him off.
34:59Brian Windhorst:I didn't know that. He was a better wide receiver than he was a basketball player. I knew it about Wendy. When he played swimming, baseball,
35:10Pat McAfee:basketball, lacrosse, shot put. And this is obviously for St. Mary. With all that being said, I've been seeing LeBron doing a ton of golfing. What is he doing next year? Is he playing for the Lakers? He's going somewhere else. What's next for LeBron in your opinion?
35:26Brian Windhorst:Well, they're in a bit of a negotiation right now. And they may not be exchanging figures, but they're sort of exchanging postures. Look, I think what's going to happen I don't know what's going to happen I'm not even sure if they do either By the way, this was a great chip
35:40Pat McAfee:This was the mess LeBron James is figuring it out Is that what we should have expected out here?
35:46Brian Windhorst:This is a fast green He had to land it short of the green Real talk, I'm just saying That is a great chip Windygolf.com I'm a golfer
36:00Pat McAfee:I think St. Vincent, St. Mary's. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Whitney. We didn't know you also played for the golf team at St.
36:07Brian Windhorst:Vincent, St. Mary's. That's unbelievable. You're talking to a three-time letter winner on the golf team. Yes, but you are right.
36:15Pat McAfee:I like the follow through. He looked comfortable, was not nervous. There was no decline. Is that what it's called? What's a speed decline whenever you slide? Decel. Decel.
36:23Brian Windhorst:There it is. Beautiful. Open face. Held it. Lob wedge. Great job. LeBron James is figuring sport out.
36:29Pat McAfee:Yeah.
36:29Brian Windhorst:Some of his best work. That's some of his best work of the postseason. So this is what he's doing.
36:35Pat McAfee:So maybe Scotty Scheffler needs to keep a little rear view on what's coming after him.
36:40Brian Windhorst:Hey, listen, Scotty Scheffler could benefit from not having to putt, and LeBron didn't have to putt there. Okay, so I'm just going to say they're going to negotiate at this thing. I think the best place for him is to be a Laker, okay? And I think that's – because he walks out the door, that's 22.7 rebounds, six assists, you know, generational legend. It's not like the Lakers are just going to be able to replace him. Super simple. But the matter, what the issue is is, you know, the amount. The amount of money. Because every dollar they give to LeBron, they can't give to a free agent because they've got to improve this team.
37:14Brian Windhorst:Look at how good the Spurs and the Thunder are. You know the Nuggets are good and the Wolves. They've got to make up some ground. And it's not like with Kobe, it wasn't about cap space. They gave Kobe a big contract when he was already done. He tore his Achilles. They did it out of honor and respect. The situation is different. Every dollar they give LeBron, they can't give them their free agent. But there has to be a number in there that respects LeBron and that gives the Lakers a chance to still improve their roster. And I believe they'll get there. But it may not happen until June 30th. We could have three weeks of posturing between now and then.
37:45Brian Windhorst:If it doesn't work out with the Lakers, I'd watch the Warriors. I know that everybody loves the idea of LeBron in Cleveland. Cleveland needs perimeter defense. I mean, it'll be a great story. he would definitely help them. Cleveland needs interior toughness and perimeter defense. LeBron can do some of that, but I don't know, man. Also, that would require LeBron to play for$3 million. I don't want to spend his money. If he wants to play for $3 million, he can do it. But until I hear from Rich Paul that LeBron is ready to play for$3 million, I'm not going to believe it. Maybe Mubble will hear that.
38:16Brian Windhorst:But I'd watch Golden State. He played with Steph Curry and Steve Kerr on the Olympics. You know he's close with Raymond Green. I mean, so I still think it's Lakers. I say 51 % Lakers, and then we'll see. I mean, Steph will be the best player in the NBA to golf with, too.
38:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, he knows all the shit. Yeah, like a plus two. Yeah, he's got a golf sim. Did you see Steph Curry? Getting trained by Steph.
38:41Brian Windhorst:Did you see Steph Curry play with Bryson DeChambeau on his YouTube channel like six months ago?
38:46Pat McAfee:Ranking 50 or whatever?
38:47Brian Windhorst:Yeah, I think they shot like a 48, right? Real talk. Okay, a lot of real talk. I like that. It was a top 10 performance of Steph's athletic career. Oh. I just said it. It's back-to-back MVP, Wendy. That performance. He made a two. He made an eagle on the first hole. He stepped up to the first hole with Bryson DeChambeau and hit it to like four feet on like a par four.
39:11Pat McAfee:Listen, this is a reminder to all of us. We are not created the same. You should watch that. It's amazing. How is Tom Curry out there? Who? What? Hey, before I go.
39:22Brian Windhorst:Okay. Is it true that the country roads are leading to Omaha, Nebraska?
39:27Pat McAfee:You know what, Wendy? I'd like you to have a little inside information there on the home time that you have. Yeah. We're going over there to watch West Virginia play in the college baseball World Series. We're at Omaha. We'll be live Friday. Live from Blatt's. Yeah, Blatt's. Bar and Grill. Yeah, something like that. Oh, the Blatt. Yeah. Brulhas. Please don't hold that against us, Blatt. We're trying our best. I am trying my absolute best. I know that we've watched this take place with no rooting interest, strictly because I don't think any of our teams have ever gone there. I loved the college baseball environment when I put it on, but I viewed it the same as like, you know, March Madness comes on, I watch it, I don't really know much else about it.
40:14Pat McAfee:This West Virginia story has me completely captivated. I mean, the investment that has happened with this West Virginia baseball team and how quickly they were able to go to become, like, great, like, actually great at baseball. Fun together. Love West Virginia University. Dogs, from my understanding. It is, like, a group that, like, dogs out there. It's beautiful. I loved it. And go and watch that game. I had people tweet me last night saying, why does this guy look so red? Three hours and 45 minutes out there. One cloud. That's all we saw. It was the greatest day in the history of Morgantown, West Virginia.
40:48Pat McAfee:I got absolutely cooked. But it was a blast. Have to go see the team over there. So thankful that the Mountaineers are representing on a national stage. And I think this team has what it takes to go ahead and win this thing. So we're going live from over there. And then we're getting a chance to watch their game against Troy, which will be 1 o 'clock local, 2 p.m. Eastern on Friday. And, yeah, I can't wait to experience it. I've heard nothing but incredible things.
41:09Brian Windhorst:Two words about the Blatt, which is named for Rose Blatt Stadium. They moved on to a better – David Blatt? Could be David Blatt. Pretzel Bites. That's number one. Pretzel bites. And, Pat, enjoy Omaha. I'm actually going to be in Omaha on Friday. I might have to get to see. Because you know why? I had goosebumps. Yeah. I had goosebumps when they sang Country Roads in front of their fans. Goosebumps. Yeah, that's cool, man. That's the great part of college sports. It was a special amount.
41:40Pat McAfee:It was literally what was like, I have to experience this one time. It was so much fun. It was so loud. It was only 4 ,500 people in the stadium, but then there's an extra thousand, couple thousand outside of it. And the way it was covered, shout out to ESPN, by the way, they had the mics up on the crowd. That was the loudest, most together I've heard in some time on a broadcast. And it just continues to grow and grow and grow. And, yeah, I'm pumped to be a part of it. I think there's going to be a lot of us that are heading out there as Bruce is really wailing away about 10 diesel Mic Ultras in there on the far left as he's trying to record down the line.
42:08Pat McAfee:College sports has got the best of us out there. Yeah, you crushed it. We appreciate you. We'll see you over there, Wendy. Come visit us then.
42:14Brian Windhorst:All right. Hey, listen, Omaha welcomes you. I hope you speak for the entire team. Square Garden and Omaha in the same week.
42:21Pat McAfee:There's a World Cup game Friday night, too. I mean, there's a lot to think about here. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Brian Wendell. Yay, Wendell! That's Fox, though. I don't know what the connection would be. But that would be a pretty fucking legendary week. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man to talk about something else that is a legendary happening. Last night was about this guy. Tonight's about the Lord. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's won the senior version of this trophy right here as a member of the Colorado Avalanche and an 18-year NHL veteran, now ESPN NHL pundit. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Horn-O Eric Johnson.
42:55Yeah, Horn-O! That's what it's about, Horn-O. Not as boozed up today, huh?
42:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, you look like you're glowing. Did you put makeup on or is this fresh out of a spa? You look great right now, Horn-O. I actually just peeled myself right out of the wrapper. So not a great morning, but there's a lot of day left. Okay, well, we appreciate your sacrifice and commitment to sport. Tonight, obviously, about to be a special night. I think we like the over because that's what's happened in the first three games of this particular series. We've had back-to-back overtime games, including a double overtime game. What do you look for this evening? And what is kind of a good summary of what this matchup has been?
43:32Pat McAfee:Feels like we have the two best teams, and they are certainly jousting. And then it's about who can close. Is that how you view it, or what are the storylines you think about with this series thus far? Well, they're putting on an absolute treat here in Vegas. And I mean, you look at the start of this final. I don't think you could have scripted it any better. Just with the comebacks, the swings, the momentum, we've literally had everything. And then I want you to watch tonight. So Freddie Anderson, Carolina's goalie, did not practice yesterday. Officially listed as a maintenance day. Brandon Bussey was in the starters net.
44:03So that's something to watch here this morning. I haven't seen an announcement yet on Carolina's starter. So we'll see what they do there. I said yesterday, I think you go back to the guy that got you there in Anderson. But if he's hurt, you're going to ride Bussey, the rookie who played really well in relief. Almost won Carolina the game, getting them back in the game in the third period. But unbelievable hockey. And I also want to give Mitch Marner his flowers. Fastest Stanley Cup final hat trick ever last game. And he just missed a fourth goal on the penalty shot in the third period. So this guy's been, he was ran out of town in Toronto.
44:36They didn't want him. They scapegoated him. He comes to Vegas. And if the Conn Smythe was voted on today, he's going to win the Conn Smythe. and I got to give him a lot of props for what he's done after his tough time in Toronto. He's been Vegas' MVP by far and the whole Stanley Cup final MVP.
44:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, Toronto has allegedly, not allegedly, they definitely said that he was terrible when the lights were the brightest. Get this guy out of here. Can't do it. Can't do it in the biggest stage. Just like everybody seemingly for this Las Vegas Golden Knights team is kind of like an outcast, misfit toys expansion team. So obviously anytime you have an expansion draft, Those are players that are potentially beloved by their team, but they have to be forced into availability because that's how the NHL's expansion draft is. So you're getting guys that are getting plucked out of their town who just seemingly feel like they just kind of got booted out of the house that day of career.
45:24Pat McAfee:And now that's kind of the beginning of the Golden Knights vibe, and now they're continuing that with that. Marner getting run out of a town to the Vegas Golden Knights is exactly what the Vegas Golden Knights story has been since the beginning, it feels like, right? And that kind of how Jackie Aces feels, Stoner feels, Marc-Andre Fleury felt that. It was just like they're legends that kind of started this franchise 10 years ago or whatever. We're kind of felt jaded, booted out of town. Let's come together and do something. You get torts in there involved as well. It feels like you guys have the beginning of what your franchise was yet again.
45:52Yeah, it seems like, you know, and that was definitely when they were kind of like the lovable misfits, you know, the island of misfit toys. And then at some point, you know, like Horno is mentioned and other people have, you know, they became the villains because they started trading for, you know, the Noah Hannafins and the Tomas Hurdles. and whatever happened with Marner happened. But, Horno, I'm curious. When you look at tonight's game, is there any residual effect from the last game? Because when you're watching that, it kind of felt like the way it went, boy, whoever loses this game, I just don't know if there's any way to recover from that, whether that was the Golden Knights blowing that lead or it was the Hurricanes coming back and then the Golden Knights snatching victory there late.
46:31So is there a residual carryover from this, or is it kind of just, hey, this is game four of the Stanley Cup finals, like it's go time? I think there's such momentum swings throughout the entire playoffs, not just the final, that you have to have a short memory. You can't let things linger in the back of your mind. I remember when we won in 22, we swept the first round against Nashville. We went six games in the second round. We went four games in the Western final, and then we went six in the final. But even those series that we swept, there's points and moments throughout those games and those series that, you know, it felt like, okay, we're in complete control, but there's also times where the other team plants just that seed of doubt in the back of your mind.
47:12So I think that's what Carolina did last game. They might've just planted a little bit of that doubt in the back of Vegas' minds that these guys are never out of it. We got to put the dagger right through them when we have the chance. I mean, they let them back in that hockey game and that gives Carolina just that opportunity to think, okay, like we can still hang with these guys no matter what happens in this game. So here's my prediction. I think Vegas wins tonight. Goes up 3-1. I think it goes back to Carolina for Game 5. Carolina wins that. Comes back to Vegas and Vegas wins Lordo in 6 games.
47:45In the fortress. Wow. That's the prediction. We'll see what happens. But that's what I'm going with. Vegas in 6.
47:52Pat McAfee:Alright, good luck with the IV. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Stanley Cup champion Horno Eric. I appreciate you. Vegas has those IVs everywhere. Oh, yeah. Your hotel room, you can basically just kind of push a button and some lady would drop out. You're looking for one of these? With a needle. You got you. Just go ahead and lay it up. You want B12? You want some hydration? Give me some tortellos. You're a little sore. Fell down at the pool? Yeah, an easy one. Oh, we can give you everything you need. You want to go to bed? Drop some lavender in there as well. Yeah, you bet. Depends what type of night is.
48:19Pat McAfee:You want to wake up tomorrow. We can give you a little opportunity. You want a little caffeine? Right to the bud. It's incredible. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is human keffy. Guy who every time he's around, the vibes are incredible. Got a chance to hang out with him in Las Vegas. He was spectacular. The lads were also awesome, including his dad, who's an absolute monster and beast. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the founding fathers of Tight End University that is celebrating its sixth Tight End U, I do believe. And they have a public practice happening down at Vanderbilt Stadium for the first time ever.
48:52Pat McAfee:Travis Kelsey, George Kittle, Greg Olson, public practice, Vanderbilt, June 23rd. Come watch superstars be superstars, but also give back to the game that they love and the position that they love while breaking down techniques that only they can teach. To tell us more about that, San Francisco 49ers All-Pro tight end, Iowa Hawkeye legend, WWE superstar of the past, and the future George Kittle. Hey, who's sponsoring tight end you, bro? Who do you guys got? Who do you guys got? Who do you got? No, I'm happy for you guys. Oh, shit. There's more on the other side. Hey, shout out. They're everywhere.
49:27Pat McAfee:Raising Cane's, Bud Light, Cutwater, Dude Wipes, Reese's, New Era, Novartis, Lules, Kinders. Way to go. Hey, tight end, you. Sick boots back there. Yeah, this is awesome. I like the fresh white bleats over there as well. Okay, June 22nd. No, the other side. Yeah, cowboy hat to die for, obviously. We like that's going on. It is year six. I'm happy I did the math right. Started in 2021. Can't do 2026. Minus 2021. Because 2021 happened, so it's actually six years. And look where you're at. Congratulations. We're proud of you guys. Obviously. This started out as something you guys wanted to give back to the tight end community.
50:04Pat McAfee:Obviously, the tight end position. You wanted to get together, talk about, hey, we are certainly linemen. We are certainly wide receivers. But there's not many people like us. It's become a sensation. Where are you guys planning on taking this? Six years in, first public practice. What do you guys expect? And congrats on building something special alongside Travis and Greg. Okay. Thank you. You guys are wonderful. What an intro. Thank you. Do you like my locker room, Pat? Yeah, it looks real. Around your head right now, you're glowing because you're so angelic in that place. Thank you. Yeah, no problem.
50:37Let's see. It's a dream. We're in year six. We have a bunch of sponsors who want to help us put it on. And you did say, you know, tight ends are like off the line and receivers. Just like chocolate and peanut butter go together so well for Reese's. Yeah, you're right. It's unreal. Thank you. That was pretty easy.
50:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's pretty easy. And you're right, too. Chocolate and peanut butter. Great. Great idea. We're just pumped. I mean, the fact that guys continually want to come back, and just year after year, it's just really special. It kind of speaks to what we've been able to build, and the guys actually find the value. And yes, we throw good parties. We give out really fun gifts. We have country music artists perform, superstars perform, get on the field. It's a great time, but the fact that guys want to come back and hear similar messaging every single year, It's really fun for us just to be able to interact with these guys.
51:25And honestly, one of the coolest things about this year is we'd be sent out. Usually every year we set out the signup form beginning of May, late April, just when guys get back and OTAs because football's on their mind again. And we usually don't have more than about 10 to 15 guys sign up by like June 1st because football players are like herding cats and it's just difficult. This year we had like 70 people signed up before like May 15th. and I don't know if that was because the country music concert was a hit last year or every person's wife slash the other said, we're going to go see there because Taylor Swift was there last year.
51:58I don't know, but we're excited. The guys are excited. We have over 90 guys signed up this year. Great teachers come in. Hey, I think you guys will like this one. We have Kyle use check coming to teach a class on how to play fullback because so many tight ends are lining up in the I formation now. So I think that will be very helpful. Like we're, we're trying to help guys make the roster, take a step in their career, and then just become better football players and have fun and drink beer.
52:22Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Manning Passing Academy does this, obviously, for high school kids, college kids. It's like the elite of the elite. And anytime you get the great minds, the counselors that go back and coached at the Manning Passing Academy, obviously they're all working together as well. Position groups started working together a lot more in modern history, I believe, in the NFL. A lot of people used to hate everybody. But for you guys, immediately it felt like you wanted to make the tight end position better. I think it's happened in football. Don't we all think that? I think that has certainly happened.
52:48Pat McAfee:I don't want to give you guys all the credit. Please do. I think that makes you look bad if I give you all the credit. Don't you think if we give you guys... No, give most of it to Greg Olson. He likes that. He's also coaching the youth and telling us how to do it, which I appreciate. I like him doing it and unbelievable at commentating. Unbelievable. His hair. It's the best part. So strong. His hair is so strong. and he knows it. I mean, that shit is... It doesn't give a shit. It is so strong. Wavy. It can go wherever it wants. Yeah. You know, you go by those houses like in warm weather and they have those big fake bushes that kind of just like block the whole house and they kind of go around.
53:32Pat McAfee:That's kind of how I see like Greg's hair. It's just so strong everywhere. It is the strongest hair I've ever seen. And he's awesome. I mean, he just walks right in. He's bigger than everybody, which you tight ends are i think you do have to be built to be a tight end right we'll get into that here in about a second i think it is a certain body type that is seemingly having success you got to be a monster but i do believe like being able to have a beer is a pretty big deal i think that is a part of the tight end culture which i think you guys do kind of showcase but i think that's a big part of like camaraderie and team building as well which i think the tight end is normally a glue type operator on teams i think that is natural right don't you think that is the case some would say some would say i think you guys are forced to i think you're forced because you're a skill position also offensive line have to have a good personality never going to be the star right quarterback's going to be star wide receiver probably going to be wide receiver one all the time so you have to have a great personality i think you guys are teaching them everything i think you're teaching business as well right isn't business a big part of the conversations you guys are doing i think what you're putting together is an academy a university where you guys are teaching like football but also like how you should operate in a football culture.
54:40Pat McAfee:I like what you guys do. And the fact you've got that many sponsors, we're not the only ones that like what you're doing, man. I assume this is becoming quite a... That's a lot of fucking checks. That is a lot of checks. He had to do the Reese's thing immediately upon opening his mouth. And they got top billing. Don't fucking forget it. It happens for a Reese's. We love them. That's why we love them. It's right there on the thing. It's a special thing what you guys are doing. I think you should be very proud of that. Have other positions reached out or have you guys thought about potentially chatting with friends of yours that are other positions and say like hey this could be pretty sweet because this feels trailblazing and i assume others will start to do the same um it was funny someone suggested to juice yesterday that he should do a fullback you and he was like i think there's only seven of us left so i don't know if that's really worth it a classroom at a high school yeah yeah sure we we started a high school year one i had a wide receiver ask me about it like a year or two ago and i mean really it comes down to You have to get like the, you got to get the guys that like that are playing at a really high level to want to do it, to want to show film, to want to talk about how they release, how do you stem at the top of your route?
55:50You're like trying to get your tricks in the trade. And, um, you know, if guys want to do that, it'll be a huge success. And, you know, I can't imagine any company who wouldn't want to sponsor some type of thing for wide receivers and DBs and all that stuff. But like, you really have to bring everybody together and like, just like, Hey, take down your walls. like don't have an ego and just like share the knowledge that you've attained over the course of your career like i've been playing football since i was five years old and i've been playing tight end since i was 18 and i've learned a lot of things and i've learned a lot of things other guys haven't learned so like i love sharing the information it makes me happy like i want the position to continue to get better and better and better and better i think you can really see that like from like you look at the young guys right now like there's several young players in their first and second year second and third year that are going to like they're going to continue to take these leaps and bounds and like they're going to carry this position long after me greg and travis greg's done but long after me and travis are gone so i get the positions in
56:44Pat McAfee:great hands greg's a part of the game more than ever now i think which is obviously good he's seeing the game through a tight end's eyes which i think is good for the position but every offense tight end is a necessity i mean that's just how it is good for you guys sharing the game sharing the knowledge giving the book basically that you don't have to give yeah that's it i mean gronk was there. They're walking mismatch. It's the GOATs. All the GOATs. They're giving the game away. They're giving the entire game away to the young guys. That's very rare. That is not a normal thing. Greg, I mean, George, I'm sorry.
57:15In your opinion, who's the next superstar? You obviously played at a very high level, still playing at a very high level. Obviously, Kelsey as well. Then you got Bowers who kind of hit the ground running. Coastal Loveland, Tyler Warren. Who's kind of the next guy that you see making that big jump? Tucker Graff. Tucker Graff? Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, Tucker was playing a tight end one until he got hurt. So, like, I have high expectations of him to come right back and, you know, just take off again. Trey McBride, you know, I don't know. I think he's going into year five, and he was first-team All-Pro last year.
57:45Very talented player, and he's going to continue to play at a high level. And you said, like, the other young guys, Colson Loveland, you know, he didn't have a drop until, like, week 17 or something like that. Like, that's pretty good as a rookie and a reliable guy. One guy that I am a huge fan of who I think is going to be very talented. is Fannin Jr. from the Browns. I think he is a very good player, and I hope I got his last name right. You did. But number four, first off, automatically awesome, number 44, two of my favorite players in NFL history, Kyle Juszczyk, Dallas Clark, Goats. So, like, you already got that working for you.
58:18And, like, I've watched plenty of his tape, and, like, when we played the Browns this past year, he had an awesome touchdown. But, like, he's a very talented player, moves fast, has a good sense of space, can win on man-to-man, catches everything. And, like, he gives a ton of effort in the run game. So, like, he's impressed me a ton. So, I'm excited about him. Like you said, Colson Loveland. Brock Bowers. I know he was a little banged up last year. But, like, he's going to have a great season again. That's just what he does. So, like, the title position, I guess, it's in good hands. It's growing.
58:46It's getting better. And also, yeah. And I'll say A.J. Barner from the Seattle Seahawks is going to be a very good player as well.
58:53Pat McAfee:All these guys are very good. I agree. All these guys are very good. Unbelievable. I can't wait to watch all of them. Sounds like that's the list. And. One more. You already said Warren. No. Nobody did. I mentioned him. Yeah, he said Warren. Okay. So you just didn't want to say his name. Okay, so you said... You want me to double dip it? You want me to double... I would just like to hear his name. Yeah, out of tight end university. I would like to hear his name. Because beginning of the season was incredible. And there was a little bit of... There was a little bit of like the second half of the season for the entire Colts.
59:27Pat McAfee:Him included. He potentially the offensive rookie of the year going into like week 11, week 12, and then the end of the season, not good. I think there were some injuries, but also not just to him, to everybody. But when I didn't hear his name come out of your mouth, I'm like. Maybe he stood him up. No. No, actually, I would say Warren is actually awesome because when I hit him up, I just said, I said, I said, congrats on getting drafted. He responded immediately, and I've had a conversation with him multiple times. Got his phone number. He's a great kid. And you know what? I like guys who, like, if you send them a text, they respond immediately.
59:57I really appreciate that so he's a good guy I'm not talking about you either Pat I get this a lot
1:00:06Pat McAfee:but if it means anything I'll see you at some point you're like signing new contracts and stuff I know you're a busy guy everybody's on the internet today I'm on the internet today or whatever it is June 23rd public practice at Vanderbilt Stadium for Tight End University let's pivot off of just tight end Last thing for Titan U. We're also hosting a country music concert. I can't announce the names. I'm not allowed to because some of them are on tour. But you can buy tickets at tu-university.com and I'm just going to promise you that the lineup is fucking sick. I'm very excited about it. I had a cold call.
1:00:47If you guys need passing, you let me know. We had a bigger event space this year. But our lineup is sick. I cold called to everybody. I'm very excited about it. It's going to be a party.
1:00:57Pat McAfee:First of all, congratulations on booking an incredible event. That's not easy. Promoters do that. Obviously, you're a WWE fan. Piecing a show together is a big deal, and it is a talent of itself, and it's a lot of bullshit. You've got to talk to a lot of people. You've got to talk to talent. You've got to talk to managers. You've got to talk to agents. We've got how many sponsors? We've got 10 sponsors? Okay. So how many of those are going to be everywhere? All these people need to be heard. So congratulations to you and team putting together. We're doing that well. A hell of an event. Cannot wait to see it go down.
1:01:27Pat McAfee:And I did miss the small venue you guys were at, where everybody was doing. That looked like an absolute bass. Where was that at? That was at the Brooklyn Bowl. They have a bowling alley upstairs in the arena, so people are bowling. Yeah, it was awesome. Nashville is an incredible city. Great place to do it. Okay, let's pivot away from Nashville. Last question. Last question for you. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Giorgio, you mentioned kind of learning from Kyle Juszczyk, coming in and teaching the I formation. Is there a chance you're bringing in Mike Evans to teach everybody how to get 1 ,000-yard seasons over and over again?
1:02:00Have you had many interactions with him since he's joined your unit over there with Sam Fran? Let's see. Mike Evans will be coaching a U14 basketball team for his daughter, so he's a little busy. Legend. Legend. So sick. I've had a couple interactions with Mike, And actually, like, I had my first one with him at a Pro Bowl, like, my very first one back in 2018. And I sat next to him, like, on every bus ride. And he could have been cooler. He gave me his jersey immediately. He goes, I like what you're made of. Like, here's a jersey. And I was like, that's pretty sick. And so, like, just having him in the building.
1:02:37One thing, like, I just love about him is that he's ultra professional. Like, everything that he does, how he warms up, how, like, methodical he is, everything, how he catches a ball, his techniques. everything he does is like he's preparing like each practice is he's preparing for a game and it's just fun to have a guy who he's what going into year 13 or 12 something like i think going into year 13 who's maybe 30 yeah it's crazy too he's only two months he's only two months older than me which is crazy um but like he's just been playing at such a high level for so long and like just have someone in the building like that it's just it's awesome because all it can do is help us and i will say he's still really really fast he is still running insane routes and like i'm just watching from the sideline because i'm not practicing right now and like just seeing him get open on like 1v1 man coverage was just so cool to see like how he breaks down to like he has a 12 yard stop route like he just 12 yards back down his stem and he literally sells like an out to an end to back down his stem and old db has no idea what he's doing he's five yards away.
1:03:41Yeah, Darius, good luck. Got you dancing out there. I mean, it doesn't matter. He's 6 '6", 250, so he's always open. George, you're also massive as well.
1:03:51Pat McAfee:George, you're massive. Thank you. Your entire team obviously gigantic. Christian McCaffrey has built like a statue, actually. My question for you, last one as we let you go, and you stayed three minutes too long, and we only have 30 seconds for you to answer. You're back healthy, you said week one. I think you said yesterday you alluded to being back healthy. All the boys excited for this year for San Francisco? Let's go on a run. Let's go on a run this year Is that the mentality? Is 30 seconds we have here? You know what? My goal is to be healthy for week one. I'm slightly ahead of schedule.
1:04:18Everybody that's working with me is super pumped about where I'm at. So, you know, no setbacks. So we're just going to keep plugging away, checking boxes, do whatever I can to be back out there. The Niner boys, we are very excited. It's fun. You know, we've got another like fresh faces, very talented players like Mike Evans, Christian Kirk, Osa, the D-line we got from the Cowboys. I'm so pumped about him. He's massive. He is a large human being. with Bost. Yeah, very intimidating. So I'm excited that he's on my team. Nick Bost looks great. Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, they have their, you know, best friendship back.
1:04:52Like, they're excited to be playing together. Like, the boys are buzzing right now. And I'm very excited about Regan Morris. The music's cutting me out like my Oscars speech. I hope you all have a great and blessed day. I love you all. Go Hawks.
1:05:04Pat McAfee:Alright, you're done. Yes, thank you, George. Thank you, George. Thank you, George.
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1:06:11Pat McAfee:The greatest thing tonight isn't about the Larry O 'Brien. Even last night was spectacular in New York City. And we will certainly chit chat more about it as Peter Schrager, who was also in Madison Square Garden, will be joining us as we keep up with not only the NBA vibes, but also NFL news that's potentially happening in his world. Tonight, it's about Lordo. Lordo is maybe the most historic trophy in the history of sport. Oh, yeah. Lordo has been passed around, legend to legend, since the beginning of the National Hockey League. Century. Long time. A lot of partying. A lot of great times. But it's also witnessed a lot of heartbreak.
1:06:54Pat McAfee:Getting to Lordo is not easy. Although teams have gone back-to-back, it is certainly abnormal. And when your window is open, you need to take it. Seize it. The Vegas Golden Knights window was closed. No window. Like a casino in Vegas. Pumping oxygen in there to keep you alive. But there's no hope being seen from your eyes. Then they fired a coach. Hired torts with eight games left in the season. They go on a miraculous playoff run. And the boys are back in time. And then Carolina, the Caniacs. maniacs down in raleigh boy they haven't won since the 90s started in 90s early 2000 they've won a long time 20 plus years they're ready for it they're eager for it they got a heartbreak city happening in overtime and there's a chance tonight this vegan goal a vegas golden knights team almost buries this hurricanes team but will jarvie and the lads in sin city do their thing to even the series we shall see ladies and gentlemen it's not just me chit-chatting about sports which i'm incredibly lucky to do.
1:07:57Pat McAfee:The Talks-A-Table is also here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, Cowboys AP-Tone. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Lee Butch, haven't been doing a lot of hockey talk. Me? The Florida Panthers aren't in the Stanley Cup. What's that all about? Look, I'm honest. I'll tell you guys. I'm tapped out. What? Alright. My guys went back-to-back three times in a row. You know what? Time to get a little break. When we put a ride together, Team Ride, I ride. I bet. But this is a series. He's high scoring, so I'm tapped back in. I was tapped out. Do you want to do a team ride tonight with us?
1:08:30Why not? We're hot.
1:08:31Pat McAfee:Over. Boom. Why not? Just like last night. Yep. Okay? 216 and a half points. Shout out to OG and Nobe getting that done. That end up final live over under was like 230 something, even though it started ridiculously low. That was a fun time. Stats had been saying that those games had been going under. Yep. So us hitting that over last night was obviously great for us, great for the game because points are obviously a good thing. but kind of unexpected as we were watching the start of that game. Tonight, we're betting the over together. If you're at 21 plus, you're trying not to be an asshole. Because whenever you're gambling, sports gambling, you're not becoming a billionaire.
1:09:12Pat McAfee:You're not buying a house. This is just to make the game a better time. That's all it is. Be reasonable. Be responsible. Be smart. We don't need you ruining it for everybody else. Be smart. You're not going to become a bazillionaire. Nobody ever has. Nope. That is not going to happen. Billy Walters. But on that note, it is nice to have a little lean. It is nice to have a little action. And tonight, we like the over. And Hembo's stats telling us we're smart. Should we maybe go against it because that's what kind of happened last night? Yeah, kind of what we did last night because in the NBA Finals, in the last 43 NBA Finals games, it was 70 % to the under.
1:09:51And the first two games of the series had gone to the under. And in this series, obviously, it's been 5-4, 5-4, and 4-3. That's 9-9 and 7. A lot of scoring so far. The over-under is 5-1. So if we were doing what we did last night, we would take the under. We don't do that around here. No.
1:10:08Pat McAfee:No, we don't. I do sometimes, but not tonight. No, yeah, you're a super under guy. You like things not to go well. We are pulling for good offense. I like defense. And there's seemingly a little bit of a question of goalie there in Carolina with the morning skate kind of having a north show con. Yeah, Bussie. Bussie finished the game in game three. Actually, I think stopped like 16, 17 pucks before that one went off the back wall and then went off his foot and in to end the game. I have one as well for you guys. Love the over. It rhymes with over. His name is Stoner. I love Mark. Gives you a bingo.
1:10:40Boner. Mark Stoner for sure tonight. Look out. He scored game two. I see a graphic already. Yeah. Stoner. Stoner's boner. No.
1:10:50Pat McAfee:We're getting a boner for Stoner. No, not for. From, obviously. Stoner provides boulder? Yeah. Scores first? I don't know if we should do that. Let's go back to the well, maybe. Let's chase the crown, and we will certainly try to do that. So if you would like to ride with what we're doing responsibly and 21 plus, we're going with the over. Instead of putting the crown on your head, though. It still would be your head, but yeah. See, that's part of the problem with this show. That's why we're never going to win those awards. No, we're not. You know it, too, D-Bow. We're sitting in front row in the front corner watching sign language people that entire night.
1:11:25I don't accept that. We will be back. We will. You reminded us that Greeny hasn't even been nominated. Back in the lab.
1:11:32Pat McAfee:No. Come on, boys. Come on, boys. We do. We're lucky to do. If the Academy, thank you to the Academy. Thank you to the Academy, which I think just means the industry. Yeah, thank you to the Academy and the industry. If they don't respect our talk right now, if they don't respect 6ix9ine Day. Adam Schein respects us. That's all I need. That's right. Well said. Elmo's a fraud. Elmo? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from Annatica, Ohio, is an Emmy-nominated host, a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, and a Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yeah. Oh.
1:12:05Pat McAfee:How you doing? I want the over and Stoner's boner graphic. I think that's the one. Boom. We got to save that for later. We can't just be giving everything up in one night. Tonight's just the overnight. Okay? We can't be giving up the boner. Boner will be whenever we need Stoner to get on. Could we have Bono maybe just mock up a graph? to see what it would look like. Yeah, maybe D. Bono and Stono Bono. Yeah, Stono Bono. Yeah, that could be something. Maybe it's called a Stono Bono. Let's get a Bono with Stono, maybe, potentially, because Bono might be too on the nose. Yeah, he might be right. He might be too tough.
1:12:32Pat McAfee:AJ, last night in Madison Square Garden, what a time. I mean, it was outrageous in there. It was a blast. But the game, these NBA finals have been living up to the hype. Obviously, the New York Knicks have just been smacking everybody around. And then Game 7 for the Western Conference Finals between SGA and Wemby, the two MVP finalists is obviously great, but these are like heavyweight and swings and momentum. And you're seeing great from all the stars and then new stars are being born. It's a, it's been a spectacular series. And I know it's hard not to get caught up in the moment, but it's like, is this the next 20 years of the NBA?
1:13:05Pat McAfee:What we're watching right now? It feels like that could be the case, AJ. Yeah, it definitely feels like it was awesome watching you guys on TV. I mean, you do it play by play for, you know, the finals in NBA basketball is unbelievable. as I'm sitting here watching. This is a full-blown play-by-play by you. Perk, obviously, amazing, D, but Q, Rich, and the boys, it was really fun to watch. No joke. Obviously, the game was awesome. I love seeing you guys sausage in here too. It had to be pretty amazing, I would imagine, to be there on site. Yeah, it was incredible. We were given way too much. Dan Housen, obviously, stopped by.
1:13:39Pat McAfee:We appreciate him doing that. He's always vibing. Perk was hilarious. Perk had so many notes and so many stats i would say so prepared i don't know if anybody would i don't know if anybody gives perk the credit that i think he deserves for how prepared he was for last night i mean we're talking about only one who had a bunch of notes i mean q rich obviously had his notes and obviously q rich we appreciate the hell out of it him and perk going back and forth incredible them calling for each other like worked out perfectly it's like yeah we got 27 years of nba experience talking to each other right now come on this this feels like this is a good thing and obviously not every play-by-play person has played basketball in the past so i thought i was maybe being judged a little bit harshly.
1:14:15Pat McAfee:I'm like, hey, is it fucking Mike Tirico played? I didn't know. Now, granted, Mike Tirico, thank you for answering the call. I mean, I got a lot of crash scores. I got a master's class in how to commentate anything, basically, by Mike Tirico. It was so kind of him to take the call. He's on vacation. This guy's been working for, what, 200 straight days? Yeah, legitimately. I forget what it was. He was on vacation, answered the call, and broke the game down to me. You know, but, hey, here's what you naturally want to think. Here's what you should think. and there was multiple times where I thought to myself, like, oh, Tariqa's going to hate that because he said he was going to listen to what I just did.
1:14:47Pat McAfee:But it was, like, interesting trying to find, like, the rhythm. And I would just, like, say thank you to everybody for the opportunity. And D-Bud, I mean, D-Bud vibing and they're pointing things out. D-Bud had a stat thing in front. It felt like we were – it did feel like we were trying to figure it out together. Yeah. It was really – it was, like, the most – and then Foxy's back in Bristol on a board he's never used before. That screen was awesome. Working with people, like, that he's never worked with before that do everything a completely different way. Yeah, first time ever doing a traditional broadcast, I would say.
1:15:17Pat McAfee:Very unique. Complete opposite way of things. Last night was sweet. It was a good time. It was like a really good time. We were lucky to do it. We were very thankful to do it, and the game was great. Speaking of game, AJ, so thank you for watching. Also, the positive texts are certainly appreciated on this end. I definitely appreciate that. So thank you to everybody that did that, including you. But the two stars, I mean, this is perfect for the NBA, bro. You got Texas and you got New York. And then you have Brunson Inevitable, seemingly, and their fan base and every star that's ever been born in New York or had any tie to New York was trying to get on camera there.
1:15:51Pat McAfee:I mean, it was in there and that entire thing. And then you got this alien, literally, this, hey, we've never seen this before, what's happening. Perfect for the NBA. Obviously, a sweep is not great for the network, but who cares if we would have seen it? That story would have been phenomenal to tell as well for New York. But we've got a series here, AJ, and I believe in the Spurs team's ability to answer. Now, I still like the Knicks, let's not get crazy. But the Spurs team, for how young they are, so much resilience, AJ. And I like the dogness of it all. Yeah, you could feel that, I think, from the jump in that game.
1:16:20And there were so many swings back and forth. That's what made it so fun. Like, you never – whenever you're sitting there watching, you don't really know what's going to happen. But Wemby, I mean, we know. Like, there are stars everywhere. Like you said, Wemby is an alien. His mindset, everything he does, the way he goes about it, it's just – Don't you think they would have to build a little bit of confidence as well in that Spurs locker room after going into Madison Square Garden and getting a win like this with all the pregame hype and everything surrounding the game? I would imagine this could only help the Spurs.
1:16:47Pat McAfee:And I think you see Ben Stiller with how ripped up he is. Jacked. Gosh, absolutely shredded. That's got to be for something, right? We're doing something? Yeah, absolutely. I cannot wait to see what it is. Heavy weights, too. I mean, maybe, but what if – I mean, with the way his brain works, he could be some super jacked-up serial killer. He could. That's going to, you know, there could be some sort of, I mean, it could be. Next Top Gun. Ben Stiller's brain. Could be. One of the best ones we, you know, one of the most creative and best ones we have. So, like, I've become a bigger fan of Ben Stiller after realizing, like, he is actual diehard sports fan.
1:17:17Pat McAfee:Usually that creative of a person, not normally going to be, like, actual diehard sports fan. Why are we wasting energy over here, right? We got a lot of this shit going on here. Feels like sports are, like, his outlet. Paul Childhood. I love that from him, Chalamet, Tracy Morgan. Tina Fey Was Ben on the wood or was he up in Dolan's suite Last night I think he was on the wood I don't think he was up in the suite No he wasn't he was on the wood He was he was not in the suite We had eyes on the suite How many times did they show the suite last night Once or no twice I would like to say James Dolan thanks for letting me in the building Okay thanks for letting me in the building A lot of people were talking about that I don't know how you'd be able to do that in there So fucking loud So just an unbelievable sense of calmness, I guess.
1:18:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, sleepy. Yeah, I guess also we got a lot going on, I assume, you know. But that was chaos. The lasers, the whole thing, Ref, you suck. Wemby, this whole thing, the amount of chaos happening in there. If you were able to catch snooze in there, that should be brought up as well. Babies and old people can sleep anywhere. We know. Quick. What a game, man. What a game. So much happened, obviously. Joining us now is a man who's in the building, a man who has traveled down to San Antonio to watch the Knicks. He's traveled to Indiana to watch the Knicks. A man who's a diehard Knicks fan, but also one of the most plugged NFL guys, a friend of the program, Emmy Award winning, Peter Schrager.
1:18:46Pat McAfee:Yay, Schrager! How you doing, Schrager? You look great. Oh, thank you. I put on my sport coat for the Time 100 honoree. I felt like I had to do that, and I feel pretty good. Congratulations, Mr. McAfee. Thank you, yeah. We're all on the internet this morning. I see that. Congratulations. Great class. I'm happy you had this just so easily to pull up, Fox. Very kind to you. Should be number one, hopefully. Everybody stop. It's not right. Separated into five categories. We appreciate the nod and the honor. We appreciate this. It's very weird to read it through. I saw Tariko was on this list, which is crazy because I was literally just calling that guy last week saying, I need everything you know.
1:19:25Pat McAfee:I need everything you know. So it's a really cool thing. Shout out to Shams Sharani, I would like to say. I absolutely love Shams. Very rarely, you know, it feels like in this game, and I don't want to dive into it too much because I don't think I know enough about it because we're in Indianapolis. We're not kind of caught up in the politics of the entirety. I think new faces normally getting into those things are a big deal. So, like, Shams, especially with everything that has happened. I mean, remember the Miami Heat situation very publicly whenever he was new senior NBA insider? The whole team, Riley came.
1:19:57Pat McAfee:Everybody was coming out against him. Even some people at ESPN who were obviously Wojites, obviously coming through there, were even, I think, trying to battle. And then, obviously, the Honest. And then the AirPod case. Last night, obviously, it gets added on there. It was AirPod. It was an AirPod and an AirPod case. I believe it was potentially both, because I did see some people questioning, like, why are we both things? Is it AirPod or is it a case? Which one is it? I think it was he had one AirPod in, AirPod case. People were saying it was something else. Yeah, they were saying it was a vial of cocaine.
1:20:28What? That's what I saw. I know Shams. We talked to Shams. I thought that would have been crazy, but I saw a lot of people saying, oh, I get it.
1:20:38Pat McAfee:Oh, is that what you saw people say? I saw something different. Yeah, me too. D-Bot saw something. I did see a couple of those. Different algorithms. It was an AirPod case, huh? Okay, I'm sure. But we know Shams. He was tweeting about lunch like two hours ago. I mean, this guy is a locked-in machine, so I don't think that would be the case. D-Bot, though, points something out to me that I don't think I saw in my Algo, and I don't like it. I don't like that it did not show up in my Algo. What was that? You got Shrags on. We don't need you. Yeah, we got Shrags on. I'm just telling you, D-Bot pointed it out to me, and I immediately go.
1:21:11Pat McAfee:I'd like to know. Wow. Maybe. It's not the air pockets. Wake up. And then we call Shams. I call Shams, and I start breaking down that particular theory. He goes, I've been seeing that. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm like, Shams, a lot of people talking about you in Secret Service right now. You need to know. That means you're somebody. And now he's time 100 guy. Bingo. We're proud of you, Shams. Attaboy, Shami. Proud of you, buddy. Now, what we need sometimes is just the drive ball. Yeah. Shams has too much information in there. Tried to do it yesterday. Maybe that's what happened. Yeah. Maybe to the Secret Service guy.
1:21:45Pat McAfee:Hey, I'm getting in. You know, OGs, guys. We got a fresh hamstring tonight. Get on the ground. All right, Shrags. What did you see from your Knicks last night? What did you want? It was an incredible game. incredible environment. Also, thank you for starting this whole thing off with a complete tour somewhere else that I was obviously not ever going to bring up. So thank you for doing that. Boys, thank you for being a part of all this. You are the greatest of all time. Thank you. You too, Shrek. Thank you. So let's go. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
1:22:25Pat McAfee:a good time i didn't like that at all i didn't like that at all i didn't like that one bit nick okay but uh thank you boys we're doing it feels like now on that note uh doing it spurs last night wendy i love the way he answered i love the way his team how do you feel about the knicks obviously it felt a lot of calls like this city pat like after game two when they won and this weekend was maybe the most lovely beautiful time to be in new york in the history of it felt like I was Hemingway in Paris. Like everybody on the subway was nice. Everyone was hugging each other. Everyone's like, Nixon four.
1:23:05I took my son to school this morning. Everyone's an asshole again. Everyone's down. And I don't know how to change that because we had this moment in New York and there's three weeks of just like summer of love type stuff. Like, you would see anyone in any walk of life, and it was just, my friend, Knicks. And then this morning, there's a funk in the city. And the Knicks are so important to this city.
1:23:34Pat McAfee:It's a French invasion to the biggest city in America. But they were unified last night when they ripped that Tim Duncan jersey off that guy and beat the shit out of him. They were unified. I did not like that one. He wasn't the only one. So there was a lot of super positive New York City videos. Okay? abnormal, I think, to go national, super positive New York City videos. Normally, super shite videos coming out of New York City. That's just kind of what it is. I think New York people know that, and I think the rest of the country knows that, which is why they potentially just immediately say, I hate those people over there.
1:24:08Pat McAfee:It's a natural feeling. Those are a few bad apples. I thought overall, everyone's good. I agree completely, Shrek, because what I was going to say is, we've been in New York the last couple weeks while this whole thing has been happening. Fantastic. Oh my God, this is by far the best city I've ever, like a utopia almost. Greatest city in the world. Bingo, it really felt like the weather was nice. Everybody literally bopping around, even the homeless people, seemingly not trying to interrupt days as much. Sure. You know, like it's kind of letting us go about doing our thing. Now, if we do get the hottest coffee in the history from somebody, you know, you're definitely going to give that away.
1:24:40Pat McAfee:And once it cools down to somebody, you're going to want to talk to them, help the homeless people out. But it just felt like the city, there's no poop on the ground. Yeah, no. Even the horses were walking by with the carriage. No horse poop anywhere. Every time Jose Alvarado made a shot, the poop went away. It was incredible. That movie, Greed or whatever. Envy. Envy. There it is, where they had the vapourizer. It did feel like that was kind of what New York was. So if they lose again, oh no. Bums are going to be eating poop again. It's a good lesson, though, for New York's youth. My son's nine and all these kids in his school, they need to know you lose, too.
1:25:15They haven't lost a game since April. So this was maybe a good thing. But last night was a weird anomaly. I know the president was obviously an outlier for what usually happens. But the fact that every Knicks fan had to get to the stadium 90 minutes beforehand, it felt like a cocktail reception at a wedding. And everyone's just milling around the building, nervous energy, nervous energy. Spurs come out hot. We take the lead at halftime. But I will tell you this. By the way, your boy Stiller sitting courtside. This is all he does the whole game. He just films the whole game.
1:25:44Pat McAfee:Cinematic 2, he's making a documentary right now about this next thing. It has to be. I know he's court-fucked. Him and DJ Khaled. I see the guy doing this. Well, people didn't like DJ Khaled on the phone. He was on his phone the entire game. DJ Khaled's allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants. I know, angry birds. But any time they come to him. DJ Khaled puts a pillow under his shoes sometimes when he's sitting courtside. He's the best. He's the absolute best, and he is. But he was on the phone the entire time. What was that,$200 ,000 seat? That's DJ Khaled football. Lovable dickhead. No, he might have been producing a song.
1:26:16Pat McAfee:We don't know. I don't think DJ Khaled's dickhead at all. Lovable dickhead. I don't think so. Killer gets all the points. Yeah, right, dude. DJ Khaled's one of the most. All these guys, Spike Lee. Those guys at halftime, they don't leave. So Cardi B performs, and they're there for the start of the third quarter. But if you looked at that front row, and there are a lot of celebrities who are getting comp tickets, they're not there for the first four or five minutes of that third quarter. And I'm freaking out sitting in my section saying, we had a seven point lead and they'd come out hot and there's no one in that first front row because all the CEOs and executives are schmoozing in the Delta Lounge we need them on the wood back out of there don't leave during halftime to go network and exchange a business card we need you to support where were you Vino yeah well Vino was bopping wood where were you Vino yeah Vino was Vino was great Vino didn't leave Vino's sitting there with his crew but he's not on the wood Vino was somehow He somehow had wings on his back just hovering around the whole entire play.
1:27:16Pat McAfee:He was sweating, too. Unbelievable. Did you see Vino sweating? Yeah, absolutely. I don't know if that's a normal, but I don't know how he doesn't sweat with how much energy is just always seemingly ready. It's unbelievable. Great Cornell lacrosse guy, I do believe. Of course. Yeah, I do believe. Rumor has it he gave the pep top to OG before the game started, and OG said, you're right, Vino. Tonight's my night, and he went out and scored 28. But I don't think Vino was on the wood. We do know what you're talking about because that was a part of our commentary was like, hey, the bottom, it looks kind of empty right now.
1:27:43Pat McAfee:It felt like Miami a little bit. I hope everyone got a good business deal done at halftime. I hope so. I hope they got the new role in the new Hollywood Thriller. You lost game three. You lost game three. You're saying it's the refs, maybe. A lot of calls. And that guy with that microphone. Don't blame the refs. They were bad, though. Thank you. That whole Harper thing, guess why it happened? Because the ball went off Jalen Brunson. It should have been Spurs ball. We are up seven at the half and we're down one going into the fourth. The refs did not lose that game. All right. Well, I loved the game.
1:28:15Pat McAfee:I loved the opportunity. I appreciated seeing you. Shout out to New York. I just wanted to say hi. I came up there. I came up to you guys. I just dabbed you up and you saw me. I'm like a ghost. I mean, I'm out. I just had to show my love. We did see you, though. I think you did get in there doing a defense. Yeah, he was. Got a sick picture of us, too. Thank you for taking that photo of us. Obviously, we would like to remember the fact that we got to do that. What an absurd thing. Okay, let's talk a little NFL. Anything happening right now? George Kittle just told us that he's on pace ahead of schedule to return.
1:28:41Pat McAfee:He's looking at week one. He's very optimistic. They got tight end university coming up. Any other updates around the NFL that we have? Russell Wilson retired. What a run. Congratulations to him. Anything we're missing in the NFL world that needs to be talked about? I think the Browns-Rams trade, the ramifications of that. I just spoke to Andrew Barry on the Schrager Hour. It's going to go up later this week for a while. And he really broke it down in that there was such a narrow list of suitors that made sense because they didn't just want picks. They wanted a young ascending defensive player.
1:29:09So for all the fans that were saying, how come our Niners didn't go after him? Or how come our Bears didn't go after him? They were looking for a very specific piece in this trade, which I thought was really interesting. They wanted three picks and they wanted an elite player in his mid-20s who could be a pass rusher. And once you do that, you're starting to narrow the pool, really. And it became the LA Rams were really the only ones because of Jared Verse. So the reason there wasn't this big auction and, hey, let's get the best offer and everyone offer us all these pieces, they wanted to keep it quiet.
1:29:40They had to keep it quiet. And they also wanted a very specific group of qualities. And those three qualities, young player, ascending, but also defensive player that they can get, it was Jared Verst. So that was why the Rams are really the only horse in that race to land Miles Garrett. And then the Aaron Donald thing is still lingering. I think my colleague Adam Schefter made a bit of news on his podcast saying more likely than not that we will see Aaron Donald, which I think is a fascinating thing for Schefter to say, who has never said anything publicly that he didn't believe or think was actually the truth.
1:30:13So now you've got still some things off of this trade, which happened over a week ago. But what a massive deal for two teams that both see themselves as winners in this trade, which is what you always want, especially if it's an executed trade in the middle of June during the NFL offseason.
1:30:30Pat McAfee:I would like to let everybody know I did hit Aaron Donald with one follow-up text after Les Snead said, now would be a good time. No response. So we will go ahead and bow gracefully out of that particular text string while deleting the message, too. so I don't have to see that. I don't want to have to see that. But his response to me, I thought, was very much like, yeah, two years removed here. He still has all the opportunity in the world to do whatever he wants to do. You win another Super Bowl, obviously, this conversation and get a chance to do something historic with Miles Garrett out there.
1:31:02Pat McAfee:I mean, the rest of the line. Basically, all the boys that are basically out there. They got a chance to do something special and another Super Bowl in Los Angeles. It's like, if you can do it, go get it. That Adam Schefter podcast, by the way, good podcast. I like the other guy on it. What's his name? Ty Schmidt is his name. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. That was surprising, though, because Schefter did kind of make it. He said, again, this is just my opinion. I don't know if – but he's obviously talking to someone. He said he thinks it's more likely than not that he would come back. And I asked, like, hey, are we maybe just doing, like, November to end of the season kind of run?
1:31:37And he said, no, I think if he comes back, like, he's in it from the start of the season all the way through, and that doesn't necessarily mean he'll play every game, practice every game or whatever, but Shefty made it sound like, in his opinion, Aaron Donald is going to potentially play for the Rams this year.
1:31:50Pat McAfee:Let's move off the Rams. Obviously, we know Schrags has all the details on them. They might be – they're the most primetime team. They start in Australia. The Super Bowl is out there. We're going to learn a lot about this Rams team as they continue to do their thing. Might be considered dynasty, right? If you can piece this together, if they can win, they're going to have to win, and then they're going to have to make it to another Super Bowl. and how long Stafford got? Forever? Two-year extension, right? Yeah. I mean, it's extended another year for him. $55 million added on, so they're not looking to...
1:32:20Look, the goal is not to see Ty Simpson anytime soon. The goal is that Stafford plays as long as he possibly can.
1:32:26Pat McAfee:Ty Simpson draft. What a night for Dan Orlovsky. Now you start piecing it together, though. That's some pick. I still don't know if I like it, guys. I mean, it was... Some pick? It is some pick. You're pretty tight over there. 13th overall that I know some teams didn't even see as a first-round pick. And even with the Miles Garrett trade, it is like you took Ty Simpson 13th overall. Also for Dano, Mendoza still went one? Or did Ty go ahead of Mendoza? No, but Dano certainly took a little victory lap because here was positive. Yeah, he moved the goalposts a bit, yeah. Dan's a wuss. We don't have to go into this, okay?
1:33:01We know how this works. I usually would stand up for my quarterback, but we got a big matchup coming up. So I'm with you, Conv. Oh, yeah. Thank you. He is a wolf.
1:33:10Pat McAfee:On that note, have you seen? Have you seen? I've not seen any of the mock-ups or anything. What do we got? Okay, there's no mock-up right now, but Program Feud coming on Thursday. Oh, I'm well aware. There it is. The boys here will be taking on NFL Live, who obviously have a team of Miss Laura, who will be captaining the NFL Live squad. She's back-to-back Emmy Award winner. Dan Orlovsky will obviously be. Mina Kimes will be here. Schefter will be here. And Peter Schrager will be out here live in the Thunderdome. And obviously, because it's two ESPN shows going at it, with DraftKings being the biggest ESPN partner that there is, and them having predictive markets, there is a predictive market that is available for this particular matchup as well.
1:33:58Pat McAfee:So for it to be a predictive market, though, if you're 21, responsible, this is something that's going to be a part of our society. so we would like to be an avenue of telling people you can do it a fun way smart ways let's go ahead do that also in free to plays and this is something once again just to add fun to things not to get this is not a get rich scheme okay you're not an insider trader which i think is what you potentially need to be to be able to win all these things this is just add a little fun to program feud as the boys take on nfl live tregs i'm gonna tell you the boys don't know any of the questions they can't because of the whole entirety of the market there's only a few of us that know and we'd like to say shout out to Family Feud, obviously big tag team partner in this entire thing.
1:34:39Pat McAfee:Let's go. And helping, just knowledge, like Torrico, basically. Hey, this is information for this to happen. We're very thankful for that. But this is going to be spectacular, Strange. I cannot wait for it on Thursday. Have you been preparing? It's so funny because I, no humble brag here, whatever, but I've done Jeopardy before and I didn't know how to prepare for that. This one, there is literally zero way to prepare for crowdsourcing. It's got to know. And like, what do I do? Just ask random people on the subway? I just got out. That's what we did. I don't know what to do. So I have not prepared at all.
1:35:11I love my team. I think Miss Laura is an ace in the hole. She connects with every single person that she speaks with in a way that I think she'll have the common man and common woman's generality answers right. Mina's brilliant. Orlovsky is one of the wackiest men in the world and yet has that blue collar feel. Wrong. Yeah, right. Blue collar. He's a giant brain and just lovely.
1:35:35Pat McAfee:And then Schefter, who's brilliant. So I think we're going to win. Okay, well, there's free-to-plays that you can win. There's markets that you can win. They are saying that the McAfee boys are a little bit of favors right now. Really? Yeah! Remember, this is not just football. It's not just football. This is sports as a whole. 1 ,372 sports fans were polled by Qualtrics, which is Ryan Smith's company. He is the owner of Utah Jazz and the Utah Mammoth and the Smith Entertainment Group. The Qualtrics polls and surveys have been used for, like, decades as the – kind of the bearer of greatness in that particular world.
1:36:16Pat McAfee:Gold standard, baby. There it is, the pinnacle. Boom, all these things. They were able to get that for us quickly, but also very – I mean, I'm very excited for it. I think this is – because sports is the right thing to do this. I think real sports, right? Yeah, hopefully it's real sports. No F1. Boom, boom, boom. Kind of set yourself up. Dean, number one answer. That would help us, guys. Hold on. It would be fair, right, if everybody in the game just knew the information. What do you mean? Yeah. With sports. If I gave you all information, then nobody has an advantage, right? Well, he would have to pass it along to his teammates.
1:36:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, because they're not watching this. They got too much going on. Exactly. We should go in blind. All right, I'm not going to tell you guys shit. Good night. Maybe there is. Who knows? We should be blindfolded, too. Sports. Everything in sports. You won't be blindfolded because a big part of it is hitting a button. You're going to have to see it. Well, yeah, that's feel. And if you don't have feel, sorry. I'm excited to see who punches that thing a little bit early because we do have shot clock on that thing. Have to have shot clock thing on that because you can't just sit there and hit the thing first and sit on it.
1:37:20Pat McAfee:You got to get there quick. There's got to be pressure. I'm excited for the one-on-one interactions with you guys, too. You know, classic. Me, too. Program feud. I don't know if I've ever been this excited for something that's, like, outside of the U. This is going to be awesome. Thank you. I think so. I think it's going to go very well. I'm excited for it. And I like that there's a lot of, once again, a lot of synergy happening. Yeah, a lot of synergy. In there, there's a lot. It feels like we're settling in here potentially. It is synergistic. We'll see how it goes. The McAfee boys are very confident, though.
1:37:49Pat McAfee:I would like to tell you. They're pretty good. They are not happy with that being minus 113 only. No, not exactly. But, I mean, I get it. How do you put lines on something like this? No one respects us. That's fine. We'll keep that chip. How do you feel, PEDs, like how much Adderall are we allowed to do during it? It's not in the guidelines you guys are allowed to do. Talk will certainly have more than anybody else in the building on the particular day. And for that, we thank him. He was up at 4 a.m. watching a baseball game, which talk, go to bed. Okay, but on that note, you're the best. We'll see you out here in a couple of days.
1:38:16Pat McAfee:Hey, good luck to your Knicks, brother. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Yeah, Schrager. That's going to be fun on Thursday. Yeah. Have to do it live, obviously, AJ, because, you know, can't have it in a can because then people know the outcome. Yeah, true. And they can't do the entirety. Good point. So we're doing that thing live. First time ever. You have to. Steve Harvey films all, so they can't. There's none of this play on Steve Harvey's game because that's all recorded. Steve Harvey, I would say Family Feud was built for him. I mean, he was the perfect host for that. He is great. Yeah, he is.
1:38:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, he. And I saw him do some global shows. I think he was down in Africa doing Family Feud. I think he was in Europe doing Family Feud. And people didn't speak his language, still killed it. I mean, that's just Steve Harvey football. Ohio guy. Yeah, West Virginia guy. Who was before him? What the fuck are you? No, he's a Cleveland guy. Cleveland area. West Virginia, okay. What are you? He may have been through there. He may have driven through. Highway. All right. Look that up. You thought about your suit yet? Look it up. Yeah, check it out. Oh, my God. I need to think about that because I had to do the big thing last night.
1:39:18So he was born in West Virginia, went to Kent State and West Virginia. I'm seeing West Virginia here.
1:39:25Pat McAfee:Everybody. You're ignoring the Ohio. He claims Cleveland. Shut your mind. No, that's Drew Carey. You're confused. Yeah, Cleveland Rocks, dude. You're thinking about Cleveland Rocks. Drew Carey is the king of comedy. And that's Price is Right. We can't have this on Thursday. You better lock it up. Glenville. That is true, but it also says that Harvey and his family moved to Cleveland, Ohio, living on East 112th Street, which was renamed Steve Harvey Way in 2015. He's got a town. He did graduate from Glenville. Glenville High School. Thank you. Shout out Ted Giggs. Which is where? It's in Ohio. Yeah.
1:39:57Pat McAfee:God, there's Glenville and West Virginia, too. I was really hoping for that. Let's move along. He's a West Virginia guy. He's basically Bill Cowher of Cleveland. Got his own streak. The Bill Cowher. Watch it. No. Bill Cowher. Bill Cowher was born in Crafton. Okay? He was born in Crafton. Steve Harvey was born in West Virginia. He's a West Virginian. Okay? That went to Ohio. Choose your next words wisely. Bill Cowher. And also, you guys need to figure this out. Okay? I don't like what I'm saying. It's disgusting. There's a locker room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flush it. This don't mean shit. Flush it.
1:40:29Flush it. We don't need that gumdrops and blowjobs. All right.
1:40:34Pat McAfee:Okay, let's move along. Jesus Christ. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. Never heard that one. Well said. I don't think that is. It's a very common phrase, actually. Come on, guys. We're a team. Hey, seriously, this thing happening on Thursday, don't embarrass the program. There's only really one rule ever, right? I think that is kind of don't embarrass the program. We don't. Oh, we are going to fuck them up. You're the captain of the team Okay You are actually It's been named We're meant of the people We know these I'm gonna spit in Dano's face No we don't need that You should ball tap him You should not do any of these things We should just We should play the game And you guys should Represent out there Okay If Dan Orlovsky's more relatable To 1 ,372 sports fans You guys need to start looking in the mirror These fuckers I'm calling Shefty's phone Every three seconds He's gonna have no idea I can't play I can't play DQ, DQ, I quit.
1:41:24I quit. I said the dog bites. Okay, we got it. All right. Junior's going to walk in. DQ, DQ, can't have players. We got a couple aces up our sleeve. Look out. Stole our Emmy. Look over here. They earned that. Boom. Thank you.
1:41:45Pat McAfee:Wait until you see what we got for Schrager. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is somebody that maybe I assume you guys We'll try to get work some angle to help you and assist you in program feud. Goat Conversations starting to really bubble and brew. And if it's a major in the LPGA, she's going to win it. Two-time major winner this season. I think she's been in the top eight of every tournament this year. She's finished second like five times, first four times, tied for eighth one time. Dominating, I would say. And I've seen a couple different pairs of cleats. Coca. Cola. Nelly Korda.
1:42:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, Nellie! How are you? Hi. Nice to see you guys again. I love this. Congratulations. I'm sorry you had to catch a little bit of chaos there at the end as the boys tried to take on NFL Live and Program Feud and all need to get on the same page, Cap. We are. They're cheating, Nellie. You're not. And that's why we appreciate everything you have going on. You're striking it well. You're playing well. You're putting well. The final putt, obviously, a little bit of a dance. A little bit of a dance, obviously. A little bit of a heart and a little bit of a roll. just you know yeah i can imagine myself a little bit of a heart attack yeah i can imagine but it falls the golf gods bless you and i think that's because how special you are for the game how do you feel obviously i honestly just wanted to give taylor made a great like little logo around it was i was just doing god's work there yeah and the golf gods are uh doing the golf work because having a superstar in the sport is good for the sport.
1:43:18Pat McAfee:Nelly, obviously you have been somebody that the world knows from the golf world for a long time. You taking control of that league right now, though, feels special. Feels like a special moment in time for the league. Feels like a special moment in time for you. We talked to you last time. You just said you felt free, basically. You felt like you were playing your best golf. Has that only continued? Has that only amplified? How do you feel at this stage as you continue to play your best golf ever? Can I say that? Yeah, I just feel so happy. out there. I do. You know, playing at a venue like Riviera, you can't be unhappy.
1:43:51I mean, that was an incredible week. I didn't play my best. Actually, it was so funny. I went on like after I finished and I lifted the trophy, I saw Brandel Chambly and he was like, you are the first US Open champion to hit less than 50 % of your greens. And I was like, great. So I just scrambled really well, but I did. That's what major championships are all about. It's all about scrambling. It's all about making pars. And when you have that little window to be aggressive, that's when I was. And then obviously on that last put, I just wasn't very aggressive. I was a little timid.
1:44:31Pat McAfee:Well, mental toughness through it all, especially when you're scrambling, having to get up and do it again and do it again and Coca-Cola and Coca-Cola. I was really trying to ingrain that into my brain that week, and it was not working. It was like, four right, four right, four right. Hold on one second. So I've hit some really good shots saying Coca-Cola. Sure. Me too. I don't know if you've seen it. I love that for you guys. Not just us. A lot of people have responded. I don't know if you've seen the – are you on the internet or no? Yeah. I mean, I have people coming up to me during my rounds too and giving me Coca-Cola souvenirs.
1:45:08Pat McAfee:You're saving people's golf games. I went up there and I hit the best shot I had. The last time I played golf was the best I've ever played. I was actually saying Coca-Cola. But you're telling me that there's a chance you can't say it sometimes. I thought this was foolproof. You just said that Coca-Cola wasn't working because I thought I fixed my golf game. You're saying it's not always going to be there? No, I'm sorry. Golf just throws everything at you. I mean, unfortunately, that's why we're all crazy. Golfers are all crazy. That's a tiny white ball, isn't it? It's just so small. And it doesn't move, and it just makes you so crazy, right?
1:45:43At least with tennis, like, the ball is constantly moving, so you can blame other things. But in golf, you just blame your caddy, actually.
1:45:50Pat McAfee:Not a bad play, Nellie. We're seeing that in the men's side right now. It's getting pretty loud. AJ has a question for you, Nellie. Yeah, Nellie, you mentioned Brando Chamblee coming up to you. I think he was quoted as saying it's the best scrambling anyone's ever done like in the history of the U.S. Open, men or women. I guess, was that ever a plan going in? And how do you adjust like throughout that round realizing, okay, I'm not really hitting the greens and fairways like I want. But when you get like a wedge and your putter in your hand, did you feel, I don't know, did you feel any different than you normally do?
1:46:18No, I was just, one, I was leaving myself in pretty decent areas. I think, you know, you can't always choose your miss, but I was leaving myself in decent areas. that I was giving myself the best opportunity to kind of get it close. Like I did have longer putts that I had to make for par, but I, every single day I would like warm up on the range and it would feel pretty decent, but obviously on the range, you're always more comfortable. You have a stick down, like you're not really worried too much about your misses. And then I would get on the golf course and I would just start flaring it outright.
1:46:52And I would always like on the second or third hole, I would go to my caddy Jason and I'd be like, I don't know what's going on. Like what, why can't I hit a fairway? Like what is going on? And I was like, well, I think it's one of those days. Like it's just time to grind. And I was grinding from hole one to hole 18. I literally couldn't like exhale really once. Like I always had a really difficult chip where I was like using my imagination. I was playing with like all, all of my wedges, but I think it's just, that's what makes that tournament or majors that's special is that you have to use like the creativity like everything that you did on the range all like your technique has to go out the window and you
1:47:35Pat McAfee:have to just kind of play the game so super gratifying i would assume i mean you say you grind from the first hole all all the way to your final putt that's a grind yeah i mean you literally when i when my head hit the pillow at night i was very happy i was super tired yeah that's what i'm saying that had to be incredibly stressful what did you do immediately afterwards and the world got reintroduced to charlie who obviously legend you guys are back i mean there was a battle of big names happening at lpga major weekend which was special to watch on the four box because there's only so much going on it was cool to see she's smoker right i believe and i think a quote that i read or heard no i don't think she smokes anymore oh okay so the quote I think she zins now.
1:48:18Pat McAfee:Zins, okay, all right. Respect. Get her out. Yeah. I was called. Okay, so that's even better. So she's just been chasing this, trying to beat this. So allegedly what I was told her quote is she said she smoked cigs because she didn't want to vape it. She was trying to get off vaping. So now she's zinning to try to get off. You guys have to get her on the show and ask her, honestly. I thought it was in her contract. What's that? They have to rip them. Rip darts. No. I saw some rip. On the course. the internet. She was epic. Okay, so you and Charlie battling, it was great LPG. I mean, it was real.
1:48:53Pat McAfee:The leaderboard was awesome. The battle was awesome. The course, obviously fantastic. Comment has a question for you. Yeah, Nelly, when it comes to the course itself, like going into it, how much of a difference is it than what it is on that day? Like when you plan for like the greens and reading it and the undulation, and then when the weather kind of affects it, like how much does that change your approach as you go from you know hole to hole and even round to round definitely i mean you do your grinding like monday through wednesday on a golf course and then there are times where it's like oh wednesday afternoon it rains and the golf course plays completely different starting thursday and all the work that you kind of did just goes out the window or that you have you're playing wind downwind on majority of the golf course and then all of a sudden starting thursday every hole like almost into the wind same thing like just everything that you kind of did the prep that you did out out the window so golf is just about playing one shot at a time it's it sounds super boring but you have to just stay at one shot at a time because it does drive you nuts with all the prep that you do and then all of a sudden it's completely different like thursday friday saturday weren't as windy as Sunday.
1:50:11And my caddy knew immediately when the marine layer kind of disappeared really fast in the early part of the day, he knew that it was going to be really windy. And those last couple of holes definitely played super hard into the wind.
1:50:29Pat McAfee:Marine layer thick. So when that moves, there's going to be a ripple effect there. You're going to feel that. It's got a tail coming. There's a tail coming through that marine layer there. You actually want the marine layer. It was warmer with the marine layer, and it was calmer. It wasn't as windy. Rest in peace, Joe Donato. He did an entire course on this as we were growing up in Pittsburgh. Joe Donato, rest in peace, living legend, created the Doppler. So you're saying what I need to do in my golf game is just one Coca-Cola at a time? Yeah, just like life. One Coca-Cola at a time. Have you got a Coca-Cola deal yet?
1:51:04Pat McAfee:No. Are you helping me out with one? Is Coca-Cola losing its fastball? Wait, go ahead, D-Bud. Please, this is only going to help it. D-Bud, please, new to golf. Absolutely, and any time I have a GOAT on here, I've got to be selfish and add some golf tips. Number one, let me thank you for the Coca-Cola and putting that alignment stick down. Yeah, have you done it? Absolutely, and it has helped my game tremendously. It does help to aim, obviously. But we've got this clip, another GOAT. LeBron James has been very captivated by the game of golf. I want you to coach him up and coach me up on this short game.
1:51:36He talked about chipping, big part of the game, getting up and down. What's he doing right? What's he doing wrong here? What can I take to my game? So I did actually comment back. I sent him a DM saying, let's go after it went in.
1:51:48Pat McAfee:Oh, that's so cool. Obviously, I mean, he brings that right knee in. Like he's actually finishing his swing. Like in chipping, you have to stay really, really still. Like your lower body can't move. and it's just kind of your upper body and you have to have a majority of your weight on your left obviously he has a pretty difficult lie right there with it being downhill kind of hits it over the bunker i think it's a 10 out of 10 shot i mean at the end of the day it's in the bottom of the cup so that's what matters like he does does have a little bit of foot action through it he is loosening up i will say throughout his videos like the first couple that he started he was really stiff, and now he's kind of getting a little bit more loose.
1:52:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, and we assume LeBron's going to figure it out, but I do appreciate the fact that you're saying we need quiet legs, Bron. He wants to be an athlete out there. You want to be an athlete. And usually Coca-Cola right there. No D-cell either. LeBron's going to figure it out. We assume that. But let's talk about LeBron a little bit more, especially with golf. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Nelly, a story last week was the shoes that he gave you. They were awesome. They were so awesome. They were really cool. But literally the first thing that we said when we saw this was that you just you came on our show and you talked about the height of your shoes and how important that was so we were wondering if the height of these shoes was the same i know you took them off and went back to your old shoes what was the whole situation and story there i never thought in a million years that shoes would make that big of a headline but they're the exact same shoes i'm wearing obviously they were hand painted extremely cool Like I really wanted to wear them, but it's so interesting because I'm really fussy with my shoes.
1:53:30As you guys know, I've worn, let's say a black pair of shoes and a white pair of shoes, exact same shoe. And the black pair and the white pair fit completely different. I've struggled with that, like throughout my entire career. And they just had a little bit too much room in them. So we're moving.
1:53:50Pat McAfee:We need to be quiet. I felt like my toes were moving around a little too much, and I don't like that at all. So I just had my physio. I was like, listen, can you please run into my locker and get the pair of shoes that I have in my locker? And I changed them after six holes, but it wasn't anything to do with the shoes. It was just that. The fit. Well, it wasn't anything to do with the height of the shoes. It was just that I just had a little too much room in them, and I wasn't feeling too comfortable. Hey, I think it was right, Susan. Yeah, it worked out. Smart, a bigger size. They're still really cool.
1:54:25They'll go up in my office. I think that they're insane. And I've got my first pair of basketball shoes ever, too.
1:54:31Pat McAfee:How are you as a hooper? You know, a lot of... I don't want to say this. Don't say it. I'm not going to say it. You can say it. I think it's kind of known. I'm going to say it. I assume... Okay, I'm not going to do this. Don't do it. Don't say it. It's a section that golfer stays at ball. Yeah, like wrestlers. you know, golfers, like how are, are you a hockey players? Yeah. Hockey players. Exactly. A lot of, like, I assume tennis good. Right. Cause like that's kind of the thought because it's a similar sport. How are you who ball sport, big balls, I guess, big ball sport. Yeah. That would be a big ball sport, big ball sports.
1:55:08Pat McAfee:How are you on big ball sports? I'm, I'm not bad. Honestly, I will say I post, I posted this one real, not too long ago that it did with Nike and I was like answering questions and i was just like trying to make as many um yes that uh as many baskets as i possibly could and i did tag lebron and caitlin in it and i asked them for advice and they both said it was decent obviously i'm probably needing a little bit more height here but the hoop it's much more athletic than any of the male golfers i need a little higher but that one i was just kind of going a little lower how many papa shots have you done because there is a cheat code middle of the backboard if you just yeah that that i don't want to yeah smart just say wow you're using that backboard pretty hard that's the game hey yeah now the quarter's gonna figure it out hey you're you're grinding out that papa shot too i mean that is it's never going to look pretty but it gets the job done and that's all we're a results-oriented business around here i mean anything that i do i'm extremely extremely competitive so i always try to excel in anything that i kind of pick up so yeah it feels like you have uh one of those uh competitive spirits that's going to continue to go we're lucky to watch it congratulations on another win we appreciate the hell out of you thank you for taking time and uh keep going i think we're going to try to get to a uh who's the commission craig fessler yeah so i got a chance to meet him chat with him he seems like great guy love what you guys got cooking over there we got invited to a Wednesday a pro-am.
1:56:42Pat McAfee:You need to come out to a pro-am. I need to see the Coca-Cola in person. You just did. This is the official invite. You can't say no to me on here. That's a good play by you, Nelly. I have a great play. That's another major champion, Nelly Kornow. He's the best. Let's take a break. I didn't say no. No? No. But I do feel like that was a pretty professional way of saying, all right. Check our schedules. But I do. I would like to. I mean, the Riviera, that's an incredible club. Beautiful. And they're, hey. Very nice. They were, it was. Nelly was on a little bit of a run. Charlie was on a little bit of a run.
1:57:25Pat McAfee:They're making some shots. She was coming out on the shit. I had to get creative on it. It's like, yeah, she was playing like us out there, out in the middle of fucking shit. She was making it happen. She's a beast. And Coca-Cola has changed my golf game. Legit. Me too. So that is... Men's is next weekend. Good luck. Here we go. Father's Day weekend. Where at? It's at... Oh, come on. Is it Shinnecock? Thank you. Yes. Okay. You see this? I believe that's... That was good. That was really comfortable. Is that Long Island? It was natural. Coca! Great turn you got. Coca! Oh, there it is. Ladies and gentlemen, on the other side, we've got a press conference coming up for UFC 250.
1:58:02Pat McAfee:Freedom. Okay. Freedom 250. The White House. Hell yeah. We got the main event. Both of them stopping by. Together? Ilya Teporia, Justin Gaethje. Treated as a press conference of sorts. Boys, hope you have your questions ready. Let's get after it. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're back in five with a fight press conference. See you then. Goodbye.
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1:59:31Pat McAfee:Sports are the greatest, and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chit-chat about them every single day. We appreciate you for allowing us to do that. And obviously, sport has the chance to do things that nothing else in the world can really do. It can unite. It can obviously take people away from any of their problems or their life. They can kind of escape with the group as we root for one side to beat the other side. There is always going to be people that can disagree with each other. There will certainly find reasons to hate each other. Sport, though, seemingly all of them, finds a way to bring out the common in everybody and bring them together.
2:00:06Pat McAfee:Now, this weekend at UFC Freedom 250, we'll be combining sport, which is obviously spectacular and we love, and fighting one of the oldest sports of all time. I think boxing is considered that, but let's assume that they went to the ground every once in a while back in the day. Happening at the White House is obviously a combination of sports and politics just because it is happening at the White House in the middle of a world full of absolute chaos, which I don't know if that's just how it always has been and always will be or if it's the world that we're currently living in. What we like, though, is the fact that we think the people in D.C.
2:00:39Pat McAfee:on both sides of the aisle will certainly be able to escape from whatever bullshit that they certainly go through every single day and trying to save the world and just watch these incredible athletes get into a historic environment and try to beat the shit out of each other and become champions of the world. I think that's a special story of people coming together. and obviously there's going to be a lot of critiques. There's going to be a lot of chaos. There's going to be a lot of things said. But I think the fighters that are stepping into the arena, the gladiators that are going in there, are trying to do one thing, walk out of their champions, walk out of their winners, and hopefully entertain the world as we bring people together, which is what sports has been able to do since the beginning of time.
2:01:14Pat McAfee:The Toxic Tab was here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer, damn, Cowboys AP Tone is here. A nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Yes, sir. They're building a big, it's a big to-do over there. Oh, yeah. There's a big to-do. A lot of people are wondering how the hell it's going to work. Fight now outside. Obviously, there's weather that could happen. Allegedly, there's some bugs that are taking place. What will the optics be? What will the chaos be that surrounds it? Who knows? But what we do know is whenever the fights actually take place, the headline is going to deliver.
2:01:45Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the main event for the lightweight championship of the world. Ilya Tuporia and Justin Gaethje. Yeah, boys! Boys, boys, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for taking time out of your life. Thank you for signing up to fight another person for our entertainment, hopefully to bring the world together. We will all ask our question for you both. We'll direct it to one person first, and then obviously the other can respond afterwards. Let's go ahead and get into it. Ilya, Justin, obviously this has gotten a bit personal here, okay? It feels like in every fight lead up, there is a chance that things get very personal and there is hatred.
2:02:22Pat McAfee:Gaethje, I'll start with you. is there always going to have to be a personal feeling leading into a fight? Will it always get ugly leading into a fight? Do you guys need that mentally to be able to fight at your best? Or what is your thoughts on the lead up to a fight in the relationship with the other fighter? No, I think it definitely doesn't need to be personal. I mean, ultimately, we're going to try to hurt each other. And so I guess that is pretty personal. But that is the job that we do. I never said anything personal. But we're very vulnerable when it comes to fight week. We're very emotional.
2:02:59And so we take everything personal. And so no matter what I said or didn't say, we're going to take it personal. No matter what he says, I'm going to take it personal because I have a chip on my shoulder. and this guy's not going to say anything personal from you. Don't worry about it. Okay, I like this. Okay, I like what we're doing here. I find the first difference here is that you are going to try to hurt me and I'm actually going to hurt you. That's the difference between me and you. You are going to try to do something and I'm going to do it.
2:03:25Pat McAfee:Okay, Ilya, let's talk about that a little bit. Let's spend it on that. Mr. Gaethje, I appreciate you. Obviously, you're sitting there having to take that and not being able to say anything right now for the good of the show. You probably have never done this before. You don't know how to act. I appreciate you doing what you're doing right now and not responding. Ilya, let's talk about that. Most confident you have felt going into a fight? How have you been preparing for the outside conditions? Anything different this year or this fight? As you know, you're going to hurt Justin Gaethje as opposed to think you're going to hurt Justin Gaethje.
2:03:49I'm always confident in my possibilities. I always know what I'm able to do inside the octagon. Of course, we are going to fight in different circumstances since the event is going to happen outside in a garden. And of course, we did a lot of work outside to get used to it. but as I always say, I respect Justin as an opponent. I think he's done great things in the sport, but there are big differences between me and him. As he said, he's going to try to do things, and I'm going to do it. I'm going to deliver. I'm not going to try to do anything. I'm going to do it.
2:04:24Pat McAfee:Gaethje, you think he's a little bit more confident than you, Justin? It feels like that's what I'm hearing right now, Justin. He believes everything he says. He sits around and smells his own farts, and he thinks he's God. he's human just like me I'm going to show him when I touch his chin he's going to go to sleep just like anybody would whenever I land my shots again I mean I can sit around and say I can predict the future and I know I'm going to knock him out in the second round at 2 minutes and 10 seconds in the second round but that's not how this sport works I've done this too many times to go in there with any expectations I'm expecting I'm fighting someone that's so good at fighting world-class fighter uh has three his last three finishes are absolutely spectacular and i have a huge challenge ahead of me i'm five to one underdog and of course you know the world's me out and i thrive under pressure i love pressure i didn't love you at all that's why i train my i love these situations that's what i love i love this way i love you knowing that you're gonna knock me out because when it goes to the second round it goes to the third round you're be like, oh, I talked all this shit.
2:05:32There's never going to be a second or third round. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. It looks stupid when we get there. It looks stupid when we get there. Okay, I like that. Okay, boys, boys, boys.
2:05:47Pat McAfee:Hey, hey, I like what we're doing. Now, this is why you guys are the main event, by the way. This is why you are. We get to fight each other, so none of this matters. None of this matters. We get to fight each other in a few days so he can be as emotional as he wants. It really does not bother me one bit. Justin, the only thing that I can tell you is that you're going to feel something that you never felt. You never faced someone like me. I've been knocked out cold. I've fought over 30 times. There's nothing you can show me or make me feel that I haven't felt before. He's saying you've never felt the Gaethje effect.
2:06:17Pat McAfee:That's true. That's what he's saying. He's saying that you've never felt the Gaethje effect either. He's saying when we get into two, when we get into three. That's what he's saying. I love that you both feel the same exact way. Now, I assume you both know a lot about each other. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, gentlemen, it's an honor to be here talking to you. And I thought we were going to be in a triple box, so I was going to say there it is. It feels like I'm going to get knocked out just being on the screen with you at the same time. But for both of you, and we can start with you, Ilya.
2:06:43When you watch film on Justin, what do you kind of see from him? And what are kind of some of the holes you think in his game that you can kind of take advantage of? He's a chaotic fighter. You know what I mean? He needs the chaos in a fight, but I bring calm in that chaos. And as I told you, at the end of the day, I don't care what he's going to bring in the fight, what's his strategy or whatever. I'm going to go in. I'm going to do my thing. And I'm going to tell you my strategy. My strategy is to go in and take your head off. This is all I'm going to do.
2:07:19Pat McAfee:Okay. And Mr. Gaethje? So scary, man. So scary. Okay. That sounded like you were a little scared there. It didn't sound condescending at all there. That sounded very genuine, didn't it? Absolutely. That's what we do. We're both going to try to fucking knock each other's head out. That's what we do. That's what this fucking game is. Do you watch film, though? Do you guys watch film on each other? Do you bring people in that fight similar to your opponent? Is that normal fight weeks? How do you kind of go about that type? Do you both do the same? Gage, I'll start with you. I mean, I have the best coach in the world.
2:07:51I rely on him to watch a lot of film and instill the game plan into our workouts. I learn by action. I don't need to talk about it. You know, so my coach has instilled the game plan, and we have a method to how I'm going to be effective in my striking. And I'm ready for him to shoot and try to take me down. He says it's going to be a stand-up battle, but after I hit him a few times. Forget about it. Forget about it. I'm never going to shoot for a tag. I just want to make a talk so that I can make it wrong. Yeah, you will see. You will see. There are not going to be takedowns from my side, at least.
2:08:26Mate, you are going to try to shoot for a takedown. I might take you down. It's called mixed martial arts. I'm not sure if you remember. Yeah, just do it. I'm ready for everything. Whatever you want to do it, just do it. If you can. If you can. I love this. But let's bet that you are not going to be able to do any fucking thing. I'm going to make you do whatever I want to do. There's a reason why I'm the worst. He just talks. He just talks. He said that Patty, he said I had no chance against Patty. I beat Patty. And I proved. I talked, I talked. I won that time. I won the world title three times.
2:09:00You're amazing, too. Your credentials are fucking unmatched. You weren't talking right now. I'm the king in this screen right now. I'm the mother of the champion. He thinks he's a king. Just shut the fuck up. He's a king. He thinks he's a king. I like it.
2:09:14Pat McAfee:Mr. King, Ilya, I would like to ask you a question. How does body, are you always in shape, fight shape? Go ahead. Okay, Mr. King, thank you. That is how you like to be referred to. No Kings rally coming. Okay, never mind, never mind. I'm not getting into that, obviously. Let's fucking move. Okay, let's move forward. We're all doing it. We're having fun. This is sports. Mr. King, are you always in shape? How does the body feel? Obviously, the lightweight 155 is, I assume, grueling for all parties here. How do we feel at this stage of fight week? I feel amazing. As I always say, my life looks like a constant training camp, but this is the better I ever felt in my life.
2:09:56This is my second fight, not my third fight, actually, in the lightweight division, but actually my body gets used to it because before I had to fight in the featherweight division, actually, I had almost to kill myself to make the weight. This is the first time that I'm able to enjoy every second of the training camp. And I'm very excited and very happy, very happy to be able to be part of this event, which is going to be probably not one of the biggest in the UFC history, but also in the sports history. So very excited.
2:10:26Pat McAfee:How about you, Gaethje? How's the body feel? Where's the weight cuts? Is this the prime time for that? Or does that happen a little bit later in the week? How do you feel? It starts in the next couple of days. I mean, we actually, this one's a little bit different. We're waiting on Saturday as opposed to Friday. We're waiting in at 11 a.m. as opposed to 9 a.m. And so there's a little different. It's a little bit different when it comes to the process. But, you know, ultimately getting down to 155 sucks. There's no way around it. And it's the worst part of the whole process. We appreciate you both doing that, by the way.
2:10:57Pat McAfee:We appreciate you both doing that. We know that it sucks. I can never do it. I love food. Love food. You love being comfortable. Donut. We love it, too. We love it, too. Yeah, but you're fucking way mentally tougher than I will ever be, which leads to kind of the environment that you're about to be in. This is once in a lifetime is how it's being built, and that might be accurate. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, and everyone's excited to watch. It definitely is once in a lifetime. But also, I don't think either one of you guys have fought in an environment like this where you're used to fighting in packed arenas.
2:11:29Now you've got an open-air stadium. It's not temperature controlled. You're going to be fucking eating bugs potentially and shit like that. I know it's raining, there's wind, and then there's the limited crowd. It almost feels like, you know, with, what, 400 people or whatever's going to be there, it's almost kind of like the apex or, you know, like when you guys were fighting during COVID. Like, is there anything you have to do to compensate for that? Or is it one of those things where it's very evident, it seems like you guys have bad blood and you'd love to beat the shit out of each other in an alley or a bar?
2:11:59Like, how does that work? Justin, you can go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I was born, you know, I'm from the country. so bring it all you know bring the bugs bring the heat i've definitely prepared myself for for the heat you know putting myself in the sauna in between and in the middle of workouts the beginning of workouts um but yeah the bugs the bugs don't matter i mean you're so locked in when you're in there that there's no people there's no lights it's just me and me and mr king over here uh trying to fuck each other up you're calling me king oh yeah you're a narcissist i love it it's
2:12:35Pat McAfee:of my fault, I think, because I said it. That's on me, Justin. That's fucking on me. I just want to pump up his ego because he's so full of shit. How about you? You're king. Mr. King, Mr. King, at the President's house, the White House, have you done any thought or preparation for the surroundings, for the area? This is obviously going to be a spectacle. It's going to be outrageous. You talked about being one of the biggest UFC events of all time. I think that's an accurate depiction of what it's going to be when it's all said and done. Whether people are like watching it or hate watching it, whatever the case, there's going to obviously be a lot of eyes on this, but it is going to be a different setup than what you're used to, Mr.
2:13:11Pat McAfee:King. I think you are. It's going to be a little bit different, but I've been in many situations. I don't care who's going to be in there. At the end of the day, it's going to be me, my opponent, and we both are going to fight in the same circumstances, so it is what it is. For you, Ilya... All I know, Mr. King all knows is that I'm going to put him to sleep in the first round. All right, well, we'll watch Saturday. Paramount Plus. UFC. Don't blink. Don't blink because it's going to be very quick. Sunday. Sorry, Paramount Plus. Don't blink. This is going to be the main event and it's. Don't blink.
2:13:48Pat McAfee:What's that all about, Gagey? I don't like what's happening here. You know, because I don't appreciate it because I'm sitting here because I'm wondering. This is not my computer. I was set up. Someone was calling this computer. Not sure whose computer this is. You're the best. Thank you for joining us. Good luck to both of you. Thank you for doing what you're doing for our entertainment. Whoever walks off the White House lawn with the gold can say they are king. Ladies and gentlemen, Ilya Teporia, Justin Gaethje. We appreciate you guys. Yeah, boys. We're in here a little bit, weren't we? That was exhilarating.
2:14:20Pat McAfee:Bad blood. Love it. Why don't you shut the fuck up? I'm the king here. Just like a fight right now. I mean, it feels like I love Gaethje. I'm 5-1 underdog. Okay, yeah, this guy's really good. I've been knocked out before. What are you going to do? You're going to feel something you've never felt before. Take your head off. Ilya round one is plus 175. Ilya was – He just said it. I just why. Yeah, he was very – don't blink. And he's not taking him to the ground. Yeah, I like that game he just tried real quick. Or is he lying? Who's doing poker right here? Or is he a snake in the grass? Could be anybody here lying to us or telling the truth.
2:14:56Did they sleep in the Lincoln room the night before? Like, how's the accommodations? Do we know?
2:15:00Pat McAfee:No, I think the Oval Office has a bunch of barracks. Okay, cool. That's awesome. Sleeping bags. Yeah, it's like the amateurs at the Augusta National up there in the top. That makes sense. They have that. They're just all kind of sitting there. They play cards and stuff. That's cool. Open some straights. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk is here. That's it. Oh, cool. That was awesome. I'll tell you what, A.J., I wanted to get you in there, but also didn't want that to go too much longer. It feels like we got it. We did it. I think you did it. We got it. You know, that's kind of – I was very uncomfortable because I laughed a couple times.
2:15:27Pat McAfee:I'm like, clear promo right here. Love what you're saying. but the other guy's supposed to be taking it serious. I'm laughing in the middle of the screen. I love what they're saying. I'm going to shut the fuck up. I'm a king. I'm going to knock your head off. I really appreciate that. But my natural reaction is to be like, yes. And I'm glowing in between them. I don't know if we pulled it off, but we appreciate the opportunity. Definitely. Yeah, that was sweet. Oh, yeah. How do you think? They didn't feel like they're selling the fight. They feel like that's pretty real. Yeah. What time is that Sunday?
2:15:538 p.m.
2:15:54Pat McAfee:it starts. Paramount Plus. I think they are making the walk from the Oval Office, at least the main event is, from what I hear. I hope it's like blank check to a couple of them. Maybe some are coming out of a slide from one of the rooms. Off Air Force One. People are going to be so mad that this is happening. Oh, yeah. If some things don't get figured out by then. Which, hey, maybe. It's going to go off without a hitch. Looks like they have wild laser shows as well. You're speaking of that at MSG. They got all kind of light situation with the call. Dana at the Sphere for Noche. Yeah, UFC Noche.
2:16:30Pat McAfee:UFC Noche. Noche. Noche is the Chinese night. Yes, I see. Yeah. I see. It was a celebration on Mexican Independence Day, I believe, of the Mexican history of combat sport. Yep. And he talked very openly about, I'm losing so much money on this. Yeah. I lose. Same thing with this White House thing, right? Yeah, I think so, yeah. It's like, hey, I'm losing so much money. So much money. but we're getting an opportunity to celebrate 250 years of the United States of America at the White House for a once in a lifetime. I'm going to try my best to do it. He came out talking about that fucking structure he's built.
2:17:00Pat McAfee:It was in Europe. They built it in Philly. They fucking drove it in there. I'm like, jeez Louise. The amount of investment into this, hopefully it does bring some togetherness in D.C. You know, like hopefully there are some people. This is a brand new photo via Fox News. It's set up there. Stars and stripes are on that thing. Yeah. I hope this does become somehow a non-party event. I heard it's going to be permanent. It won't. Yeah, that would likely have happened. It won't. Me too, but it's fighting, though. That ain't fucking happening. I got a question, though. Is this like a rain or shine type thing?
2:17:31Obviously, lightning kind of is always. Yeah, a little bit of rain is fine. I wouldn't mind a battle in the rain. Like the rumble in the jungle?
2:17:38Pat McAfee:I've never seen it in the UFC. Yeah. Back in the day, the original one where Gracie came out and fought all the fatos and did all that shit. Was that outside? Feels like that was maybe outside. I don't think so. So I don't think so. The humidity is going to be the craziest thing it will be. It's very humid like it has been. Think of like, yeah, it's going to be wild. Is it true? You know how they do the congressional softball game that they're not doing that or baseball game they're not doing that anymore? They're just doing that as the prelims? The congressional baseball game for the prelims at UFC Freedom 250?
2:18:06Yeah, they're just fighting each other instead of doing the baseball game.
2:18:09Pat McAfee:Oh, instead of the baseball, they're doing fighting. Yeah. I would like that. That'd actually be a good idea. Why don't they do that? Crenshaw versus Teixeira, I think, round one. I do hope, though, that it is a – because sports, that's what sports do that. That's literally what sports are supposed to do. So if you're doing a sport in D.C., you would hope that the sport would be something that could unify because that's what sports is. It doesn't feel like that's going to happen. I mean, it feels like it's going to get real loud out there, but the boys are fighting for real fucking titles here.
2:18:35Pat McAfee:This is like real – big fights. Love that. Huge. Huge fucking fights. I mean, just the card is outrageous. Alex Pereira, obviously a stud versus Cyril, gone. and Alex Pereira looks to become the first ever three-division UFC champion. Is there some vacated titles that are going to be up there? Sugar Sean's fighting in this thing. Yep. And American is in every one of the fights except for the co-main event there, Pereira versus Cyril Gaunt. So there's going to be a lot of – this could be awesome. I hope it's awesome. I appreciate the amount of investment that's going into this, and hopefully sports can do what it's always done.
2:19:11Got to be watching. 8th is not bad, right? It's normally later than that?
2:19:15Pat McAfee:I don't know. I'm a little bit worried about him saying that last one's going to don't blink. That's a pretty quick night, I guess. They've started them at 9 since going to Paramount, but yeah, 8 o 'clock would be an hour earlier. Is this free or just got to be a Paramount person? Yep. Paramount's putting a lot into a lot. Oh, yeah. That's a big night. This is going to be worth it, too. Yeah, I think so. I can't wait to watch it. All right, let's pick the game tonight, shall we? Hell, yeah. How about us doing last night? Crazy. Crazy. So sick. It's hard not to think about. I mean, we're all running on like two hours, three hours of sleep, obviously, because the airspace was shut down for a while, and then we get out there, and then we got to helicopter.
2:19:51Pat McAfee:I don't know what you're saying, had to, anything. Got to helicopter up to Connecticut and then flew back up back about 4 a.m. this morning. Was flying high, though. Very lucky to be in there for the entirety. And shout out to the NBA playoffs and the NBA finals here. Deliver it. I mean, this is a heavyweight fight happening in the Madison Square Garden. It was epic to be a part of. And tonight we see if the NHL Stanley Cup can continue to deliver. Back-to-back games go to overtime. Double overtime included. Now we're in Vegas. Hurricanes, a little bit of a favorite out there in Las Vegas in the Fortress.
2:20:21Pat McAfee:That's pretty crazy because I know Big Mark's about to bring it at the beginning. Yeah, stoner. No, no, no. Oh, Mark Shunach. Well, yeah. Or he goes by Mark Nash in the WWE as well. But yeah, Mark Shunach, my guy. I don't know who's – do we know who's bringing the siren? You never know. Exactly. So we'll see. I mean, you know. Is it you? No. I've laid that down. I've done that once. Now, if called to do it again, who's to say? I think it's Penn and Teller, is it? That'd be crazy if it was Penn and Teller. I love Penn and Teller. That's a good idea. David Blaine with his mind. Think about that.
2:21:00Yeah. It's just going. Carrot Top could do it. Could you imagine him fucking doing this with the fucking. No, he'd be nuts. That'd be all the time. It breaks off. I don't think we need Carrot Top tonight. We just had, you know, Mendoza. Maybe it's a Mad Max man night. Oh, shit.
2:21:16Pat McAfee:Max Crosby. You mean Black Boy Max? Yeah, Black Boy Max. Couple bangers, by the way. Couple bang bangs coming out of old Black Boy Max out there. Maybe he is on the siren tonight. Something to think about. Could be a Mad Max man. What about Tom Brady? He's a Vegas guy now. No, he's too busy selling nut water. It's coconut water. Excuse me. Good marketing. Good nut. Oh. That's it. That's it. Tom Brady. Coconut water's still going? That's your quarterback. It's like I had to run. He's my quarterback. What do you mean is it still going? Tom Brady said, yeah, he's a thermostat, not a thermometer, brother.
2:21:50Pat McAfee:Good nut's about to infiltrate everybody's diets. Everybody's sipping on Brady's good nut. Everybody's loving down in it. All right. That's the tagline, Buttsy. It's not what I'm talking about. Be your friend telling friend something nice. I'm going to change your life. We're taking the over. Hey, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Can we talk about good lad? Ooh. Hell yeah. Paul Skeens. Skeens was a great legend. Skeens, driving home yesterday alongside Livvy Dunn, sees a Little League baseball team having practice out there. Feels obligated, I assume, just from inside, like, hey, thank you for playing baseball.
2:22:22Pat McAfee:I appreciate you playing baseball. Plays catch, stays out there, signs and autographs for like an hour with the kids. Two hours. Two hours with them. The entire, obviously, league finds out that he's there. Everybody probably just drives in immediately after this takes place. and it's like Skeens has taken on the responsibility of bringing baseball back to Pittsburgh in such a big way. Every time he spoke about Pittsburgh being a baseball town, he said, we want to win for you guys. We want to win for you guys. We want to win for you guys. I would like to win for you guys. He always says we, but he really believes that like Pittsburgh would be a great baseball town and wants to be the driver behind it.
2:22:54Pat McAfee:I think he's okay with that maybe being a legacy of his, even though everybody thinks and knows that he's probably going to end up in four spots unless this new CBA comes through, which who knows how that whole thing is going to work. But he has taken on the duty of bringing baseball in Pittsburgh, and this is another indicator of that. I love a good lad doing a good deed, especially in the town in which we're from, Tom. Yeah, as an ambassador for the game, for the city, for the Pirates, he's been unbelievable. Obviously, on the field, he's been unbelievable. Off the field, he's been unbelievable.
2:23:23He has always said the right thing. He's always done the right thing. Stopping by just because he loves ball just to play catch with these kids. Now, I don't love the wear and tear on his arm because he's got a big game against the Dodgers today at home. So I don't want him to get fucking all tired out for the game today. But he does it because he loves the game, and he's a great ambassador. Oh, my God.
2:23:41Pat McAfee:He is a great ambassador. I love everything about Skeeno. We appreciate Skeeno. He gives up any hits today. Some of the answers are going to go, oh, real fucking nice playing with those kids. Waste all the good pitches. Great. Yeah, I hope you had a good one, kids. You're going to make the MLB. That conversation mattered. Somebody's going to say that. They're already starting to piss him out. Yeah, he's sitting right next to you. What's that? That yin's sitting diagonally from you. I would never do that. His ERA is over three right now. Some people are already hitting. WBC, never going to pitch in that again.
2:24:13Pittsburgh does not want him to potentially go to wage. His velocity is down a little bit.
2:24:17Pat McAfee:No, but he's not over pitching. He has found in settling. He loves his country. He's worried about the straighter. Yeah, I'm not real fucking pumped with DeRosa right now, but we'll see what happens today against the Dodgers, 6.40 p.m. This is DeRosa's fault? What the fuck did D-Ro do? He fucking pitched him three times. Skeeno was his second call. And Judgey's fucking hurt, too. Who is his first call? The first two calls, the two most important guys on the roster, two of the best fucking players in baseball, decided to play in the World Baseball Classic this year. And we were gung-ho, jacked about it.
2:24:57And now I'm staring down the barrel And no fucking judgy for four to six weeks D-Ro Is Roman Anthony healthy? Let me check He's been out for two months Oh no I don't know Probably Probably not a good omen How Scoobs He killed him Killed Scoob Oh yeah I forgot I think Scoobs had loose bodies in his elbow And had to have surgery And now he's wearing a fat suit Pitching in single A I don't like what's going on right now What? Uh oh We're in a fat suit What are you talking about? I love baseball classic. You know what Bregman just said in the Cubs clubhouse the other day? I've been fucking awful, guys.
2:25:33I'm sorry. He's left more runners on base than anyone in baseball. What was he doing? PCA's giving up three inside the parking lot runs because he's got the roast in his head. Zero! I don't like this. What about Big Dumber? The worst year of his career. Guys blow the fucking Mendoza line, dude. One of the worst seasons of all time. They took out the big of his nickname. Now it's just Dumper. Oh, no. Bobby Witt Jr., Gunnar Henderson. They're all down. Royal stink. Playing good, but both their teams stink. And why do you think that is? Because they weren't at spring training with their teammates.
2:26:11We had the jerseys on, man. We were part of the team. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Speaking of, mine finally came in four fucking months later. He was there last night. Finally got my Roman time. Stepping on everyone's shoes.
2:26:26Pat McAfee:arrived late makes sense he did I watched him walk and step on everyone's shoes alright we would like to say this we love the world baseball I did see him coming in late I did see that on TV how are the Venezuelan lads doing how's Sasquatino doing terrible his batting average is so low Tatis and Machano are playing the worst they've ever played Black Guerrero Jr. has got three home runs guy can't even swing the bat. Blue Jays fucking stink. They went to the World Series last year. It took four months to get back to this. Ernie Clement was on Team USA. That's right. I forgot. Schwarbo's doing it, though.
2:27:04How's Harper doing? You're right. Schwarbo is doing it. And Bryce. They're starting to come back. Remember how the Phillies started? 9-20. Got their manager fired. You could probably put that one on Team USA. Thanks a lot to Rosa. It started with skis, tossing the ball back. He went out of his way. Ambassador for the game. We have an innate ability to turn it whenever we want it to turn it.
2:27:29Pat McAfee:I was about to call D-Row to get a defense, but I don't want to do that to him right now. He would take this all personally. Receipts. It's not his fault. He doesn't. All right. Yeah, and he's still counting them. Thank you, Skeeno. Thank you, Skeeno. Thank you, boys. Thank you, Paul. Don't give up any runs tonight. And to the American World Baseball Classic players, thank you for taking us on the ride that we went on with you guys. That was so much fun Fucking Judgy Yeah Awesome Cost us a better season Oh yeah never mind I don't give a fuck About the World Baseball Classic Okay I'm trying to win World Series Now Judgy's gonna be Fucking out Until the All-Star break Never again World Baseball Fuck The World Baseball Classic Never again I understand Why all these managers Are calling up DeRosa And saying Hey guess what pal Sit his ass on the Fucking bench I don't give a shit Cause guess what You guys aren't gonna Fucking win anyway And we didn't And now all the fucking good guys on the team are either hurt, their teams fucking suck, or...
2:28:29Wake up! D-Row!
2:28:31Pat McAfee:I thought D-Row. D-Row is the problem because he motivated the boys too much. Yeah, I'm going to fucking hang it on his ass. Did he motivate the boys too much or did he call in fucking McHooja to do it? I forget. It's more than just one speech. We're not letting him off the hook either. It's more than just one speech. Please. Oh, yeah, he brought in the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt Jr., too. What's that? He won Medal of Honor. He died a long time ago, shortly after World War II. Teddy Roosevelt Jr.? Yeah. Thank you, sir. Thank you. He was saving guys on D-Day, wasn't he? Did he read a quote? No, I made that up.
2:29:13I don't know. I'm just saying he may have conjured his ghost and brought him in. I thought I asked Teddy Roosevelt Jr. No, no, no. I completely made that up.
2:29:20Pat McAfee:Okay, so now we're lying about D-Row. Yeah. That's where we've gone. What? But does Sean Casey have anything to do with any of this? Well, I mean, we know fucking Casey was, you know, boosing with the boys telling stories, so they're showing up hungover the next day. I mean, I got no problem with any of those guys. I just, I don't want any of the guys. I like playing on that fucking team ever again. And Sidney Crosby almost got his leg broken in the Olympics as well, and I immediately thought to myself, I don't like him playing in that at all. Maybe we just focus on the teams we're playing with.
2:29:47Pat McAfee:Isn't that a crazy change of opinion by us? Because, boy. Well, you know why I loved it at the time? Because the baseball season was a month and a half away. Now the baseball season's here. We're kind of right in the thick of it. And I need my fucking captain. I don't need my fucking captain. I'm the 50-day DL.
2:30:08That's what these owners and managers have been saying. I'm sorry. I'm going to start it on fucking Hal Jr. That son of a bitch.
2:30:17Pat McAfee:I'm sorry this is happening here and Judge. And I'm sorry this is happening to all the Yankees fans. Why is it only the World Baseball? It's not. It's just that's low-hanging fruit. That's an easy target. And I acquired that target today in my crosshairs. And I said, you know what? Honestly, I hadn't even planned on it. We did not plan on it. And then Tony said it. And I was like, man, Tony, that's a pretty good point. Thank you. I'm going to fucking dive in on this, too. Thank you. Yeah. Fuck the WBC. No! But I'll be Jack Ford again next year. We're going to have to remind you. I think people will remind you.
2:30:50No, they will. I'll be Jack Ford. I'm just going to say, like, hey, no good players. You guys want to, you know, Tim Hill, my guy. College. College players. College.
2:30:59Pat McAfee:Sure. Get beat by 50. We would lose by so much. They got high school kids down there throwing 102 down in Latin America. So do we. No, we don't. We got one in Boston. And he's a lefty. Really? Yeah, and I don't want him fucking playing. All right. Tonight, we're on the over. On the over. Let's go, boy. Come on now. We're in Omaha on Friday. Hell yeah. D-butt. Have fun, boys. Go on, lads. Program Feud Thursday. Can't wait for that. Okay. Okay. Jacked up about Program Feud. Good luck to you too, AJ. I don't know how you'll be in it, honestly. I don't either. I'm excited to see because AJ has a unique brain, I think we'd say.
2:31:44Pat McAfee:So fun. But he is out and about, you know, so he does see and talk to a lot. I would say, though, I do not relate to other people very well. Okay. All right, Program Feud coming right up. It is about relating to other people, more specifically 1 ,372 sports fans that were pulled by Qualtrics. Program Feud available now to be traded on DraftKings' predictive market or on a free-to-play if your state is not allowing it as a market, as this is the first time, and there's a lot of guidelines in which we have to keep this very fair so that there's no cheating by the lads who will take on NFL Live. Fair and evil.
2:32:17But are these Americans that were polled? That's a great question. Are these international? Where are they from, too? That's a piece of information. In America.
2:32:25Pat McAfee:We will not be giving to you guys. Oh, shit. Be your friends. Midwestern people, southern. Sports fans. Different. Sports fans. Confirmed? Ball knowers? So I think... How do you prove that? So the people that do surveys, I don't think that's a special group of people, first of all. So you guys should think about that. People that do surveys are a group of people. But I do believe that Qualtrics, over the decades and decades of polling that they've done, they have people. So many emails. And there's like, I think people are tagged in what they're interested in, like music, entertainment, sports.
2:32:57Pat McAfee:So I think it was sent out to everybody that probably had sports tagged that do a lot of these surveys for them or in the pool. And then 1 ,372 responses came back within 12 hours. Boom. So then we took the percentage of the 1 ,372. That'll be the point system. The percentage of the 1 ,372 as opposed to just how many people actually said it, which is what Family Feud. I trust Ryan guy. Yes, Ryan Smith has become a billionaire multiple times because of this software and service. And the only people that know are just a few of us who are literally having to operate the show. Yep. So we're going to try to make this.
2:33:32Pat McAfee:This could be a good thing. Oh, yeah. I'm looking forward to it. There could be a lot of fun. There's going to be a lot of sports conversation. if breaking news happens, we're live so we can start these shepherds right there. I mean, it's going to be a fun. His lines are going to be dialed. Thursday, 1 p.m. ESPN, program feud. The McAfee Show, lads, taking on NFL Live in a family feud-style clash of sports fans serving. We're lucky to be doing this. Thank you all so much. Let's hit the over tonight. Oh, yeah. Be responsible. Don't be an asshole because we're in this thing together. I appreciate you all so much.
2:34:08Pat McAfee:This is a cool day. Crazy day. And we move on to tomorrow. Hell yeah. Be your friend, tell your friend something nice. Might change your life. We're interesting together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. You can't reason with the sun. Trust us. We've tried. This summer, it's time to put that angry ball of fire on mute. Columbia's OmniShade technology is engineered to protect you from the sun's harsh rays that can burn and damage your skin. The sun is relentless, but so is our gear. Level up your summer at Columbia.com to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about calling game 3 of the NBA Finals last night from Madison Square Garden that saw the Spurs get back on the board 2-1, before previewing tonight’s Stanley Cup Finals Game 4, and everything else happening in the sports world. Pat and the boys also welcome several great guests to the show including ESPN NBA legend Brian Windhorst; Stanley Cup Champion and ESPN NHL analyst Erik Johnson; 7x Pro Bowler, 5x All-Pro, and one of the visionaries of of TEU, George Kittle; Emmy Winner and ESPN Swiss Army knife Peter Schrager; 4x Major Champion, 19x LPGA winner, fresh off a US Women’s Open victory, Nelly Korda; and UFC Lightweight Champion and Interim Champion Ilia Topuria and Just Gaethje before UFC Freedom 250. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’re off tomorrow, we’ll be back Monday LIVE from Bristol. Cheers.
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