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14:14Pat McAfee:Maybe New York is just happy now. It's 53 years. They've been waiting. They get it. Let's take top off the happiness, and how it's overflowing in abundance every single day. I like that. Why not? Where does basketball rank out there, Shraig? I know you got baseball, the Yankees. One. One? Darius, it's one. It's the city game. It is. And it goes back to the 50s and the 60s and City College and all that. And then you go through the 80s with Chris Mullen and Kenny Anderson and all the city legends to Marbury and Telfair. And you go through the list. It's always been the city game. And it takes place at Rucker Park.

14:46And it takes place at West 4th. And it takes place in Brooklyn. and it takes place everywhere. This is the city game. And to see the city be able to celebrate like this is truly wonderful. And Pat, you mentioned when's it going to wear off? This is a really cool deal about winning a championship. You can cash those memories in whenever. It's like an ATM. You can now go on anytime you want to say, I want to relive it. All right, type in on YouTube, Alvarado three-pointer game four. It's there and you can feel it all over again. 53 years is the longest drought that any team in the NBA has gone through between championship teams.

15:22Some people are lucky enough to be alive for the 73 squad and today's squad. But forever, there's going to be Knicks fans far and wide who can just tap into their phone or their memories and say, Deuce McBride, bank shot three from the corner, game one. And it's all there. And you could feel it all over again. So it is forever. And I think if you guys are fans of championship teams growing up, it's always going to be in your heart. It's a special time and a special moment. And I'm so happy for all these Knicks fans who get to feel it now.

15:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, Connor went to like 14 parades as a child up there. Boiled. Yeah, it's unbelievable. And then we thought it was all going to crumble for him. And then lo and behold, actually, they end up getting right back to the Super Bowl and they're going to get to experience it probably sooner than later for everybody else. But yes, that parade is what an entire city is kind of waiting for. Today will be a massive celebration. Congrats to you. So you're, I believe, also a man who understands the Hamptons a little bit. And not only is the Knicks parade today over there in New York City, but on Long Island over there, there's a U.S.

16:21Pat McAfee:Open taking place at Shinnecock. And Shinnecock this morning has certainly been showing up. You know, Long Island, the home of Amityville horror? Well, this morning it looked like a horror film. As James Nicholas teed off, a man from New York, was the first guy to hit a shot this morning. And then let's go to Henry Riggs on the 10th, his first hole of the morning. How's it going? You playing Shinnecock? I heard that place is tough. Henry Higgs says, no, I'm actually on the fairway. I got a nice little chip in here. Going to probably make birdie on my first hole. Instead, he chips to about 10 feet, and it's gone.

16:55Oh, no. Oh, no. It is still going. Oh, it stopped, right? He's still putting. Yeah, that's good. He's good. He's good right there. Harry Higgs. Sorry, not Henry. It's gone. Oh. Ball is gone. That's his first hole. That's his second shot doing that. Think about what Harry Higgs has to think about for the rest of the day. Harry Higgs, yeah, it's still going. He's going to pick it up. He's going all the way back to him. That's what we're looking at at Shinnecock on Long Island. And then here's Brooks Koepka. You know, he's dressed awesome today. He dressed awesome. Look at the wind. Yeah, exactly.

17:29The wind is howling.

17:31Pat McAfee:Koepka, no stranger to the course.

17:37Pat McAfee:that's a good fight that's a good fight early to save par congrats to him but obviously long island in the hamptons now absolutely crazy because summer can you tell me about the u.s open coming to town and what this normally means for the entire area it's awesome um so i'm out by montauk which is about three and a half hours from the city all the way at the i'll be at shinnecock tomorrow as a fan going purely the fan my friend eric ziff invited me i I said, I will be there and I will be watching because I love this tournament. And for the U.S. Open to come down to Long Island is pretty cool. Shinnecock, a really tough course.

18:09They're comparing it to Pebble Beach in a way, but it looks like these guys are struggling early. And there was obviously a haze above today that caused a delay. But this will get really heated come Saturday and Sunday because it's Father's Day weekend. School is out. It's a three-day weekend for the New York City kids because of obviously the Juneteenth holiday, but also school is over. So everyone's going to be making their way all the way out here. And I have a feeling this is going to be one of the most electric finishes of U.S. Open history. I don't know where he's at in the leaderboard. I don't know if he's teed off, but Cam Young is a New Yorker.

18:43So if that is a story I can follow right now, I was walking around, there's like a Hamptons magazine. He's on the cover of Hamptons magazine. There's a local story there. Let's go.

18:52Darius Butler:What did you say, Tony? He looked unbelievable on the cover of the magazine. Last time I checked, he was two over. He's one over now.

18:59Pat McAfee:He's battling. He's got that New York grip.

19:01Darius Butler:It's only a shot off a leader. Two shots off a leader.

19:03Pat McAfee:Okay, let's get off of talking about New York being great. Okay. Jeez. They introed him from Florida, too. I don't know if that's where he lives. Does he really go by Florida? They said Palm Beach Gardens. That's messed up. Come on, dude. Florida boy. I love it. I like that, too. Going back into New York. Mm-hmm. Excuse me. You know.

19:23Darius Butler:Florida. That is messed up. I was going to say he didn't do that at the Ryder Cup. Yeah. I don't want no Floridian on the cover of Hamptons Magazine. What are we doing here? I'm sure that's abnormal.

19:34Pat McAfee:I'm sure that's abnormal for somebody that has a house in Florida to be on the cover of Hamptons. Yeah, I can't believe that there was a World Cup game, right? Yeah, New York Stadium. New York, New Jersey Stadium. My bad, my bad, my bad. In the shadows of New York City, there's New York, New Jersey Stadium, the artist formerly known as MetLife Stadium that hosted a World Cup game, right? Yeah. Good one. Brazil. Good one. Eli was there and everything like that. That's a France one. Knicks, obviously, win the finals that weekend into that, and then now they got the U.S. Open. See, this is why the New Yorkers will always be like, hmm.

20:15That is the hottest bat they've ever had.

20:16Pat McAfee:Ever. In my life, I think this is certainly the hottest. And the Yankees don't lose. Yeah, they're probably hot right now. And Judgey's not even playing, so it's kind of, you know, everything's coming up aces for New York right now. Holy shit. By the way, do you see Hart and Brunson throw just darts for their opening pitch? Just perfect pitches? Yeah, strikes both of them. And I think both catchers are like, damn, actually pretty good. They didn't throw from the bump, though. Yeah, I love that. Did they? What? Yeah, I don't know if it was the shoes or the mind. One, they didn't want to mess up.

20:45Pat McAfee:It was kind of like when senior citizens go out there and they say like, hey, thank you so much to this World War II vet for coming out, going to throw the first pitch. They stand right in front of the mound, and then they throw it out there. But to be clear, both of them.

20:59Darius Butler:They should have took turns for the mound. I agree. You got to be the president to throw it off the mound. They don't let anybody up there before the game.

21:05Pat McAfee:The Yankees don't let anybody up there. I saw Faye Jo up, dude. Timberland's on. Come on. Stop lying, dude. Single-handedly lost in the World Series. Exactly. Have you seen the Wemben-Yama pitch at the Yankee game from a couple years ago? It's a beauty. No, is it from the mound? It's from somewhere. He basically throws it into the ground and it rolls. All right, easy. I like that you did that. There was a cheers, I believe, by the boys from my understanding in that entirety. I like that there's beef. Okay, let's pivot away from the NBA and New York City being the greatest. It's not. Get that out of the way, too.

21:42I think she might be performing, by the way. Someone told me Alicia Beasley's been there. Anybody else?

21:47Pat McAfee:Anybody else that could be performing over there in New York? Got rules on a float. Fat Joe is on a float. Everyone made it out of the woodwork, guys. They're all there. It's going to be fun. Connor mentioned some people that maybe weren't mentioned that are famous, famous, famous New Yorkers that could potentially not be attending the parade today in my ear right there. We won't chat about that. We'll chat about the good things. We'll chat about the good things here. Congrats to New York. Congrats. Let's move to NFL stuff. I know you're up there in Montauk. I don't know how much you get to tap into what's going on in the football world.

22:16Pat McAfee:Some precedent-setting stuff taking place right now. Go ahead, Tone.

22:19Darius Butler:Yes, Regs, we're a couple of days away from the summer solstice, so not normally a time for NFL news, but this year it is. Brendan Sorsby has, or I don't know if officially he's declared or tried to declare for the supplemental draft, but that feels like how it's going to be. We're waiting on Roger to tell us if there is going to be a supplemental draft or not. We've had people on this week that think all 32 teams will be in person or present at his quote unquote pro day, his workout for his interviews and things like that. I know you are dialed in with a lot of GMs and personnel around this league.

22:50Darius Butler:How do you feel about the attendance at his pro day and how many teams, maybe what round would he potentially go in the supplemental draft? Yeah, so the supplemental draft is basically like you bid for a guy and you say what draft round you would want him, and it's kind of a blind bidding and it hasn't been interesting in years. This is one of the most fascinating cases for a prospect because he had no intention of going pro. He was supposed to return and go to Texas Tech this year. is coming out. So now scouts have to, if they are interested, have to scramble and watch all his film and look at it from an NFL lens.

23:23And oh yeah, by the way, is he going to be facing a major suspension from the NFL if you do spend a supplemental draft pick on him? So we haven't heard from Roger and I think everyone's looking at the commissioner right now and saying, we need some guidance here before July 10th. We're going to deploy our scouts and we're going to really go into this thing. The fact of the matter is this, these NFL players who are caught gambling, they miss a full year of football and i look at calvin ridley who was a pro ball all pro wide receiver missed a full year was not allowed in the facility okay that was kind of the precedent that was made however we have now been years from that is there a different bending or softening of the rules for a player that's coming in with something and didn't do it as a professional i look at marijuana and i say that as a statement you could put on i look at marijuana but i look at marijuana 20 years ago it was like gosh if a player had something with weed in college there was no chance an nfl team was going to take them and now it's like we don't even look at it in the same lens we don't even test at some point so is this that now with the gambling and do we penalize this young man from having a career because of the gambling you know suspension or is it hey we have to look at this in a different lens because of where we are as a country and with sports and with all our partners with how we do the sports wagering, whatever it is.

24:47So fascinating case. You're kind of planting a flag here as the NFL and how we're going to handle these. And oh, by the way, one last thing, if he does have an addiction to sports gambling, which is still a possibility, I know he's gone and gotten treatment, that will be picked up right away if he places a bet on DraftKings or FanDuel. Whereas if you come in with an alcohol problem or you come in with someone who uses illicit drugs, you might not be able to detect that right away. That can go under the radar and you can do that in privacy and not being tested every day for it. If you place a bet on FanDuel and you're Soresby, or you place a bet on DraftKings or Fanatics or wherever you do it, the NFL is monitoring it and you will be penalized right away.

25:28It's a very tight rope and a thin wire and I'm fascinated to see how the NFL handles this. That was not me that said that. That was

25:34Pat McAfee:Conman. That was me! DraftKings is where... But we do not want anybody who has a problem gambling at DraftKings, only 21 plus, responsibly. And also, I believe there is an app which calls into question what Ron Slavin, the attorney for Soresby, said on WFAN, I think. No, the Dallas one. FAN, yes. Yeah, The Fan, sorry, geez. The Fan, W Fan, A Fan. So many of them. But, hey, they're always on your side, and they're all great. I like local radio. I'm from Pittsburgh. There's a lot of local radio. I respect local radio and appreciate local radio. But Slavin goes on and says, the people I feel worse for besides Brennan is Texas Tech.

26:17Pat McAfee:I think where they messed up was they talk too much. If anybody should be questioned or be catching heat, it should be Cincinnati because they knew for two years they never said anything. That's a huge accusation for an attorney to be, or agent, lawyer, person to be saying. That's a big, that's a huge statement to be saying there. So obviously we'll continue to follow that. But there's something that college athletes have to have on their phone. I think it's called Prohibit. Prohibit. And it is basically, it tracks any gambling app that you download onto your phone. So they can literally see, allegedly, they can see everything through this Prohibit.

26:52Pat McAfee:And I think the teams all have access to it for their, so I think that's where the conversation starts coming. If he did make 60 ,000 bets or whatever it was like, Was he doing it under other names? Because then they said when he went to Texas because they didn't have a sports gambling there, he was having other people do it. Because if he was doing it under his name on his app on his phone, allegedly there's something that's supposed to be able to catch that. Who had the information that was caught? Were they withholding the information from anybody from helping them? That's the whole next step in this thing is how do we catch these types of situations before they become runaway trains at 60 ,000 bets as opposed to catching it early, which I think a lot of the platforms have now.

27:28Pat McAfee:I mean, if I lose a bet where I go max unit on, I have to watch a video. I have to do three check marks. I have to say, I don't want to suspend my account. They like, would you like to lower your limits? Like there's a lot of things that just DraftKings is doing to me whenever America loses to Italy in the World Baseball Classic. Nice hero. Yeah. Yeah, whenever America loses to Italy as minus 5 ,400 or whatever it was, favorites, and I bet max bet on that, the next time i logged into draft kings there was a full hey you have to watch this video before you go any further and it's like a full thing so it's interesting because with where we are with the technology and you mentioned marijuana being kind of a metaphor for this type of situation the only difference is like marijuana has medicinal purposes and it's obviously been studied in stats it's been around for a long time where i don't think sports gambling has that but i think what you're saying is the softening of the view upon the the doing of it is what you're saying we could We could use a different one.

28:26How about Terrell Pryor getting tattoos in college and then being thrown the book? And now it's like, that'd be a better analogy than maybe the marijuana. But like now there's a softening. Softening the view, like the view of it,

28:36Pat McAfee:like the automatic judgment of like this, because it did sound like this guy had a problem. Oh yeah. Like it sounded like he had a real problem. And I assume, to Ron Slovin's point, I assume somebody had to have known that it was all happening. Won't be the level of concern too, if you are a team. Obviously, maybe some blowback of you signing, but even him, I guess, relapsing, for lack of a better term, but going back, because if anybody knows addicts, you have to probe it, you have to think, but you find a way around those type of things. You go to any lengths of that. Hopefully, that's not the case.

29:08The Swordsman, he got the help that he needed, but I would be interested. A year off, too. Yeah, I would be interested to know how much. I don't believe the 32 teams thing. I know that's something we say, but I don't believe that. But he is a talented kid who had a first-round grade, who has the tools. And I hope he does get an opportunity. I think this was the right move. I think he could have did this and kind of helped Texas Tech out a little bit, not to look like absolute goofballs. But I hope it does pan out well for Sorsby. Yeah, it did happen to Patriots wide receiver Kayshaun Booty. Like, he wrote an entire Players' Tribune about his gambling addiction at LSU.

29:42And I think he was projected first-round pick the year before all this stuff happens. He ends up being a sixth-round pick. Like him explaining just the process of like, hey, every time I woke up from, you know, whether I was taking a nap, going to bed, the first thing I'm doing is opening my phone and checking whatever gambling app it is. So, like, it is a very serious addiction. But to Darius' point, like, addiction is a daily thing. Like, that isn't something where it's like, yeah, I beat it. It's like, no, if you're addicted to something, every single day you're just trying to last. Okay, so David Payne-Purdum.

30:15Pat McAfee:Can we see who this guy is first? Who is this?

30:17Darius Butler:He's a sports betting. ESPN betting. Yeah.

30:20Pat McAfee:ESPN betting. Cincinnati's knowledge of Brendan Soresby's gambling stems from an alert the school received in August 2024 showing Soresby attempted to access fantasy site prize picks, according to court documents. The school questioned Soresby after the alert and was told that he was denied access to prize picks and had not placed any wagers. UC says it did not receive any additional alerts related to Soresby during his two seasons. Okay, so then there's something malfunctioning. Then there's something not working. Well, you still probably need to do your due diligence. You know, if a guy gets – what we know now, like, it's very easy.

30:52It's crazy. You just kind of wipe your – well, hey, you know, he didn't get into it. So, we're done with that. We're good.

30:58Pat McAfee:Yeah, but also there is a lot of things to Cincinnati's defense. They would say there's a lot of things in that we're supposed to tell us whenever this happens. So, a crazy situation, preceding – precedential setting situation. And we'll see if Roger Goodell – if that's how that works, Goodell just got to say, yeah, we're doing it or no, we're not doing it? Yeah, the league office will dictate whether there is or not and how they want to handle this, and we haven't heard yet. So we shall see. I think that's the last remaining big piece of news, and it just kind of came up, and we always get news in the offseason that just spurs up.

31:28But that's one that I know all the league executives are looking at, and it's not necessarily about Sorsby. It's about the situation at hand, and they know that this will be not the first case of a young man who's going through some sports gambling stuff as a college student. Good luck out there, Godot. how about commission having a call soarsby into the office all right tell me about it from the beginning sits down i want to hear about everything from indiana until now and then he walks out of

31:57Pat McAfee:there i don't know what i'm gonna do good luck and then what goodell decides whether or not he opens it up that the application process ends on monday the league office can certainly say that they're investigating turning over every stone that gives them at least another week right so then that's the next Monday. Then, you know, they can say, we're still trying to figure out some last thing. They technically have a couple weeks here, right? Don't you think the same thing? But the July 10th date, I guess, all of a sudden becomes the deadline for Roger Goodell? Yes, and training camp follows right thereafter.

32:30So it's like once football starts, are we really dragging this on into that? And I don't know if I know the NFL well. They're not looking to start off back together weekend with the NFL with Brendan Storesby gambling talk. Jeez, it's crazy. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. Let's pay your schrager. Enjoy New York.

32:48Pat McAfee:Enjoy New York, brother. Enjoy New York. What were you going to say there, Connor? Well, and then, so let's say, you know, the league decides, hey, we're not doing the supplemental draft, which I think we all assume they might. Does then he roll over to next year? Does he become a free agent? Like, how does that work? I'm telling you this, and I've asked this question multiple times just strictly because I know how old some of the people are that work in the NFL. and that's not a a slanderous old but I am talking old people have their way of thinking you know that's why the saying is like old dog new tricks how old you were in the office how old we talk like politician old or like no you're talking about in football like the owners there's some old oh the owners yeah I thought you were talking about like NFL offices that too like there's some people that have been around the league for what like 30 years 40 years working jobs that aren't owners like just been with franchises that have been around a long time, who take a lot of pride in what the league has become and has been around a long time.

33:42Shield.

33:43Pat McAfee:And have some influence. Have some influence. Even though they're not the one per club, they have been around it for as long as they've been at different buildings, whether it's executive this, president this, chief of this, whatever it is. They've been around for a long time in all these buildings. It's like the gambling on the game thing, it is. As serious as you can get. Yeah, it really is. Because nobody wants that to be associated with their brand. So nobody wants that to be. I mean, look, the Black Sox, I mean, that's forever. You know, Pete Rose's name is forever. Now, this is not that situation because he did not gamble on any games in which he participated.

34:17Pat McAfee:Okay, that is, I guess, documented and out there. So that needs to be kind of understood. He was gambling on, like, what, Fiji taking off. Turkish basketball. Something. So he clearly was just, like, gambling on anything that he possibly could. Smaller bets. So maybe it's not as – he was clearly addicted to it. But there is the Indiana situation where he's on the team. So it's like, is that enough to piss off these olds who have influence around the league to be like, we're going to take a stand if you let this in? I don't think that's the case. I think Roger will say, yep, run the supplemental draft and let the teams decide.

34:50Pat McAfee:I think he will want the teams to decide if they think it's good or not. And if a team puts in a bid, they can easily say, well, this team was going to do it, so we did it. So I think it's a fascinating case study here on how this all goes. And, I mean, it's a different league, but the NBA has just gone through this. The NBA, we talked about it for two weeks with all the gambling and poker situations they just had. So there has been a massive spotlight on it. But it does feel like because the NFL has been through it with their players, we just mentioned Calvin Ridley and Rodgers and some other guys, eventually he should be able to be in there.

35:21Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, fresh out of an absolute destruction of a human being on the front yard of the White House. ladies and gentlemen your undisputed lightweight champion of the world who has fought professionally 33 times 28-5 record currently on a three fight win streak including pummeling the faces of everybody this past Sunday night in Washington D.C. the man he was fighting against who just days before that said that he was going to punch his head off quit because this man was beating him up so bad ladies and gentlemen great american justin gaethje let's go what's up man what's up i guess i will call you mr king now right because that was elio himself mr king last week we'll call you mr king how does it feel that was legendary oh you know i feel like a king i'm not gonna lie but i'm no king okay so uh i like that you think that you're no king you're humble enough obviously which is why I think we all have fallen in love with not only your fighting style, but your fighting story.

36:34Pat McAfee:Whenever you're in there and you're leaving the Oval Office and you're trying to read whatever language that was that they wrote the Declaration of Independence in, I like that you were so truthful too. Like I'll tell you what, go ahead. Hey, anybody pulls that up. It's not this. It's, it's like we're literally living in idiocracy. It's like the way they used to talk was obviously the correct way. We just think they sound special. Well, I do like that we have evolved their language into what we have now. And obviously our country starts there. And then now we're at 250 years old, almost at least.

37:09Pat McAfee:And we're showcasing the White House in a manner that it's never been showcased before. I think a lot of people learned about the White House. I think a lot of people saw it in a much different light than it's ever been seen. For you, what was it like representing your country there in that moment and obviously coming out with a win? yeah you know in hindsight all the theatrics and everything you just made it so much more spectacular i mean you could not write a movie to to match you know what we did and and uh the show that we put on the quality of the theatrics was absolutely insane i mean it was all you know i didn't really get the again when i'm getting ready for fights like i'm not i'm not acknowledging things like that because those things can't help me or you know they can only hurt me when i come become distracted about the room that I'm in like it's not going to help me I was so focused on being so perfect for for that night and really I mean me succeeding that night I mean absolutely the farther back into my career you go the more special this whole thing really is and it's just incredible to to have had the opportunity to to do it online do it on a stage like that with the production that it came with I mean it just made it all so much more special yeah it was it's insane It's a crazy life.

38:19Yeah, it's crazy life. It's an awesome life, champ. Hey, undisputed, baby. Hell yeah. Come on. Yeah, no, yesterday my dad asked me, he's like, how does it feel, you know, waking up first time being a champion? And I was like, I haven't even thought about it. Then I sat there and thought about it. And yeah, it's just absolutely incredible. Like, it's insane.

38:38Pat McAfee:King of the world, even though you don't really view it that way. Now, let's talk about the second backflip that you went for. Obviously landed the one off the top of the cage. Got a great shot in front of the White House. Sick flip. Ah, go again. And then obviously almost break your neck. I know wrestlers do it. No, no. Come on, boys. That's Newton's first law. I just got to stay in motion. I'm the best follower on the mountain. When I go snowboarding, you see me do all kinds of tucks and rolls, and I'm back on my feet. I was just rolling out of it. Okay, of course. Yeah, and I know your wrestlers do a lot of it.

39:11First law. I know your wrestlers. Yeah, I'm thankful that you're quoting Newton here on the show, and objects in motion stay in motion.

39:18Pat McAfee:But that photo right there, filthy, obviously that should be framed everywhere in a moment that'll be remembered forever. Let's talk about something else that'll be remembered forever. Whenever I, as non-combat sport diehard fan, but certainly person that watches fights, okay? I watch fights, but I don't really know the ins and outs of everything. I don't know the history. I apologize for that. But you think Mike Tyson, boom, this guy's got heavy fucking hands, okay? This guy's got heavy hands. That's an immediate thought. I do believe that we as a society will start thinking of you as a man who has the heaviest hands of all time.

39:52Pat McAfee:Like, have you always just had hammers? Like, how do you kind of explain the amount of power that goes through your fist? Like, is it your technique? Is it always, like, what do you think it is? Because you pound, Gachie, you pound people's faces. I mean, you absolutely dismantle people's faces. And it's so powerful. Sorry about it. Yeah, one word describes it all and it's timing. And the more you watch the sport, the more you can maybe grasp the concept of that. But creating angles, but sending direct lines of energy in straight lines through their body and through their face. When you see my face and it's not messed up, you're like, oh, something's wrong with the skin.

40:35It's really not that. If you watch frame by frame, I am constantly dissipating the energy that he's trying to send in straight lines. And they're all coming off and glancing off of my body. And that is the timing that I have. I've said it, if you go back to my early interviews, my A to B is unmatched. And when I can lock in and be cerebral and I'm in danger, then my body does crazy things. And I'm able to be so technical and intuitive and cerebral with my actions and emotions. It's happening so fast. were like computers processing um codes and if you're constantly making adjustments and what really happened i mean i was able to reset his feet every one to two seconds i was very diligent about it and i fought a perfect fight and he was completely caught off guard he was not expecting it you know that obviously is another part of this whole game is the expectations i've said it many times i don't go in with the expectations so that way i can never you know be surprised and that's just the way I compete.

41:39And, you know, he took the opposite approach. And I said it before on your show, when we go to two, when we go to three, you're going to be in hell. And that's where he was. Okay, so you talk, I mean, just so clean.

41:50Pat McAfee:You talk about your A to B line energy through him. And then you're talking about you reset his feet every one to two seconds or whatever it is. Are you moving him into places so you can get direct lines of shot? And does he not even know that you're moving him to places? Because I've tried to do jujitsu a couple of times. and what I realized is everything they're doing is trying to get me in a position and do something else to me. So they're like, oh, I'm getting my ribcage fingered right now. I don't like that, but I'm moving like this just a little bit. As soon as I move like this, bang, they sneak me over here.

42:18Pat McAfee:And it's like, are you walking people into your punches without them knowing it? Yeah, and that's why their face is so messed up because I'm creating those angles and taking advantage of those half beats. You know, everything happens, everything in life, all the fights, it's in a specific beat. You know, it's pop, pop, pop. If you can pop them and catch them halfway between, then, you know, that is the game. That's the game that I'm playing in there the whole time. And it's just, it's so scientific and it's just so, it's so artistic. And it's so hard to see with the human eye. Even, you know, all the years that I've done this, nobody has grasped the concept that I am.

42:55There's a method to the madness, a method to the chaos, and I'm creating situations. And that's how I fight.

43:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're an expert, brother. And now you're the world champ for good reason. And the world got to see it. Made a foreign lad throwing the towel in the front lawn of the White House on America's 250th birthday. That is a huge thing. It was very late. I'm not going to lie. I didn't watch it live. While you were trying to read that Declaration of Independence, I fell asleep. Okay, it was Dorn your walk. I was alive for you, baby. Yes, you were for all of us, brother. We watched it the next morning. It was awesome, dude. It was electrifying the event. Obviously spectacular. Great way for it to wrap up with you.

43:36Pat McAfee:You should be the main event of every fight. We should say you have a six-month ban from fighting, or medical, basically. You're not allowed to fight for six months, I think, professionally. Is that accurate? I already fought twice this year, and very rarely do you get me twice in one year. So there's a very, very, very small chance that I would ever consider fighting this year again. Okay, on that note, go ahead, Connor. What I put myself through. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, and we're – hey, I just want to let you know, anytime you walk out there, know that as we're watching your little psycho genius ass walk to the octagon, we're like, there's about to be a fucking war.

44:10Pat McAfee:That's about – like, we all know what's about to happen. No, I've said it. I feel it. I feel it. Every single time I fight, when I fight, I feel the energy change in the whole arena, and I know that it happens. I've been to so many fights. Very rarely does that happen. But every single time I walk out, everybody knows something. they're going to feel something they did not that they they they dream you know they dream to feel tonight and i'm going to give them to that did you did you hear the g7 summit did you hear president talking to i don't know who the other leaders were uh but they were talking about the fight that's how they were starting the meeting by the way common ground sports becoming common ground which is a beautiful thing in this entire thing and uh president trump brought up he said the last two fights guys supposed to lose and then boom and then the other side they're like that last guy.

44:59It was like, you were potentially bringing some world peace around here with the hell out of other people. Man, I can't tell you how thankful I am to God for just giving me the opportunity to do something like this. It's been crazy. This face right here, okay? You're just, you're just, every part of my face is punchable to you? Like, where would you, where would you be trying to knock me out of me? Because I virtual reality box.

45:25Pat McAfee:I need a little, a little heads up. I'm right where are you you're coming boom bang pow what are you trying I'm always I'm always sending shots at your neck because anytime a human wants to get out of the way of danger they go okay and so I'm always aiming at your neck because no matter when you flinch when you hesitate when you think your neck your head's gonna go straight to your neck your chin take your neck okay so I'm gonna break your face or your hands with my jaw there you go yeah so I'm gonna not duck okay so as you're as you go at my neck I'm gonna hit your hit your fist with I can give you One shot, I'll give you some cauliflower here.

46:00I don't need that. I don't need that at all. Hey, Gaethje, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Congratulations. Yes, sir. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

46:07Pat McAfee:Okay, so people are thinking about maybe retirement. Never, right? Oh, my spirit will never retire, boys. I created that on Sunday. I like that. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, world champ, Justin Gaethje. Hey, Gaethje. Think about getting some cauliflower here, though. That's a clear sign of, like, not fuck with that, dude. Yeah, I do like that basically everybody on earth understands that now. Oh, yeah. Now they understand. I think there was a time before UFC was big, though, that you could walk around with a couple wrestlers. Ultimate fighter really helped that. Yeah, and people didn't know what was about to happen.

46:40Hey, look at that little short little guy. What's going on, little boy? How's it going, buddy? And I whoop, I'm going to bang. Oh, my God. These guys put on garbage bags and are trying to puke all day,

46:49Pat McAfee:every day in high school while we're doing everything else. Wrestlers are a different animal. Yeah. Fighters are a different animal. And sometimes they're not going to act like perfect humans. most of the time all the time if you have the trait to go in there gladiator wise you're not going to be a perfect human now obviously we are striving for everybody to be but there's going to be some bad decisions made in the fight game there's going to be some bad decisions that come out of the fight game Gaethje seems to be his deep thinking fighter I love everything about him alright joining us now is a man I love everything about too he's been a British correspondent for a while it has been a while hasn't it oh yeah years long time He came on about darts.

47:28Yeah, he did, which I'm sure he has a take on. Oh, who's our world champ, by the way? Premier League champ, back-to-back? Luke Littler.

47:37Pat McAfee:Did he tell us that, or was he kind of a Luke Littler hater earlier?

47:40Darius Butler:I think he was a Van Gogh guy. He was a bit of a Van Gogh guy. A Gowen price, maybe.

47:44Pat McAfee:And then he was over at the tennis, right, with the... Wimbledon, yeah. With the Guinness. Mm-hmm. Okay, obviously. Hannah Waddingham. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, from Matt Lasso. ladies and gentlemen our british correspondent a man who's been riding um ponies in texas a man who's uh took a trip to the sun and has come back in america for the english world cup fresh off a massive dub for the lions over there is it coming home to tell us ladies and gentlemen nigel seeley good good morning guys thank you very much for having me how are you hey nigel life is good where are you at what uh part of the country are you in right now and uh how has the trip been i'm in arlington texas and i'm heading to the airport now to go to boston where i'm going to go to scotland match tomorrow to see the tartan army and then i'll be heading to watch england play their second group game against ghana so the tournament i mean yesterday and the day before was stuff of dreams honestly um only sport can bring these kind of things together where people from different cultures people from different walks of life can come together i went to the stockyards i saw cattle ranch i've never seen that i see cowboys everywhere and i don't think they've ever seen 250 brits drinking 25 cans of lager and singing sweet caroline it was it was just it was just beautiful what was their reaction to you as your reaction to the rodeo is this your first rodeo or uh is this not your first rodeo it's my first rodeo um and that was and experience as well.

49:18I mean, I think there was more English supporters there in that crowd rather than any of the actual die-hard rodeo fans. But, I mean, this is my seventh World Cup, though. This is my seventh major tournament following England. I'm not a member of a gym. I know it's probably a surprise that you think I'm not a member of a gym. I'm not a member of a golf club, but this is my hobby. I travel the world watching England football team play in the hope and the big hope and the optimism that one day we can win something in my lifetime. I'm 53 next week, and we've come close, but we've never done it. And that is the hope that kills you in this game.

49:53So hopefully we can do something about it. But it's only one game. We've got a long way to go yet.

49:58Pat McAfee:Okay, so obviously you're having a good time down there at the Stockyard. That is a place that even us as Americans go down there and say, this is awesome. Incredible. You know, you've got cows walking down the street. You've got horses, longhorns walking through there. I mean, it is. You can buy any belt buckle, any cowboy boot, and I think any bull that you want to buy down in that area. You have beautiful people, beautiful culture, and you can even get on top of one of those things. Now, maybe not Zito. You remember that? Oh, come on. It is difficult. There was two. There was two. Her name was Rudy.

50:28Tip to tip. We walk up. There's three of us. There's two of them. Okay. Bull actually goes to Zito or whatever, and then the person holding the thing was like, you two can definitely get on, yes, and just like kind of quickly. And Zito just like kind of stood there and like, I'll take the photo, Zito said or whatever. Is it a DeBone Kennywood situation? Yeah, yes. Yes, it was, but this was livestock. And the stock itself spoke. And the roller coaster couldn't speak DeBone, but the bull itself looked just the other thing.

50:57Pat McAfee:And it was unbelievable. But it is a special place. I like what's happening in America. I like foreigners coming and enjoying more than just New York and L.A. On that note, Connor has a question for you, Nigel. Yeah, Nigel, you said this is your seventh World Cup. As far as the internet goes, seeing it from afar, is this the most united you've kind of seen fans experience the World Cup because we've seen people from Japan experience and Mexico and Texas just like yourself. Freddie has taken over the internet, of course, from Germany. How would you kind of rate that as far as, you know, things that have happened at previous World Cups from a fan experience perspective?

51:31Well, it's actually only my second World Cup. I mean, it's a five European championship, so it's my seventh major tournament. I think the different part of this one is that it's cost a lot of money for people to come here. So the flight's a lot of money. You've got to commute across a vast country. Your ticket prices are expensive. I think everybody's just come with their idea, I'm going to have fun. When you're spending that kind of money, you just want to go and enjoy it, live it. You know, it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience. The American people have been absolutely fantastic. From the moment we landed, even to the security at the airport, usually those people are quite grumpy and quite miserable, but they were welcoming everybody in.

52:06The whole atmosphere, everywhere I've been, everybody's embraced this tournament. We were drinking last night with some Croatian fans. They got beat. They weren't happy, but the better side won. There's no ill feeling. Everybody's enjoying themselves. The colour of the World Cup is just tremendous. The different cultures, everybody embracing it. And I think so far, the American hosts have been amazing. The stadium yesterday, it's the first time I've been to the Dallas Stadium. Incredible stadium. Absolutely blown away by that. And just from the moment we got here, it's ticked every box. And for me, it's definitely been the best major football tournament I've ever been to.

52:44Pat McAfee:Well, we're incredibly lucky and thankful that you all are here in our country experiencing it. We're lucky that it's happening right now. And to be clear, we're catching the fever, too, just alongside everybody else. Go ahead, Tone.

52:54Darius Butler:Yeah, Nigel, obviously England gets a huge one yesterday against Croatia. So we don't need to talk. We know you're a homer. We know how much you love the three Lions and how you feel about them. But you have mocked us every single time you've come on the show about Team USA and the U.S. men's national team. after their 4-1 win against Paraguay and how good they looked. How does the world, how does outside of U.S. look at the U.S. men's national team right now? Because us, we're winning the whole fucking thing. Yeah, bitch. It's unbelievable. It's staying home. It's unbelievable. We are so good.

53:29I think up until yesterday, the USA were the most impressive team in the tournament. Up until yesterday's second half, they're the most impressive team in the tournament. It doesn't surprise him, actually. I laugh at you, Pat, when we've been on here before and you're just going to tell me that you're going to win the World Cup. But you've got the best chance ever. I mean, home advantage in major football tournaments is absolutely massive. Never underestimate home advantage. And I know he hasn't got a lot of credit over his period of time and he's been out of love with the American public. But in Pochettino, you have a proper world-class manager and a real world-class manager.

54:02A guy who knows how to win things. A guy who's won in the World Cups himself. as a player for Argentina. He's been in Champions League finals. And for the first time, you have a team of 11 players or 15 players of half of your squad who are actually based in European top flight clubs. So you're going to be one of the fittest. You're going to like the conditions. You're going to get, you know, as the tournament goes on, the momentum behind the US national team is going to be huge. Realistically, I feel quarter finals minimum for Team USA. Minimum. They've got to get to the quarter minimum. And all you need in quarterfine is one bit of luck, one penalty decision, one VAR, a PK shootout that just goes your favor.

54:45And you never know. It could be England v. America in New York in the finals. And guess what? You're going home. Going home.

54:56Pat McAfee:I love to hear that from you. That's a huge deal. I don't know if you got to see my reaction there while you were giving that take. You have never given me an inch on the United States. For good reason, by the way. Turns out the boys were frauds earlier. They just needed this next generation to come in, I think, mature a little bit. It feels like we're a mature team at this point, too, even though we're younger at this stage. But you're an ex-professional sports player, Pat. You know, I think it's all about the coach. I think for the first time, I think England have got a very realistic chance of winning this tournament because I think the upgrade from Gareth Southgate, our manager to Thomas Tuchel is such an upgrade.

55:33You only saw what he did yesterday at half-time and changed that game around. He gave a speech, a motivational speech to players, Harry Kane, Jude Bellin. You wouldn't have got that from their reaction. I was so impressed with him. I think the US Nationals have a proper coach. I would take Pochettino as the England manager prior to Tuchel. He's that good in my opinion. Nobody can have him. AC Milan can't have him either. Nope. They got a new gaffer. Good.

56:01Pat McAfee:Good. Ponch is staying. That needs to happen, and so are you, hopefully, Nigel. Enjoy your travels up to Boston. We thank you for joining us, and we'll talk to you next week. Thanks very much for having me on, guys. All the very best, and go on, keep going. USA v. England final. New York, baby. Kebab. U.S. wins the World Cup. Yeah. Come on, baby. Nigel Sealy. Hey, Nigel.

56:23Darius Butler:That will be seen.

56:24Pat McAfee:Hey, so not to just put over the people that we know, Nigel and Gump be probably the two best footies. Yeah. Handicappers. Handicappers. I don't want to say all that. Nigel's a gooner, right? I don't know. I don't know if he's a gunner or a gooner. Are you sure, Gump? I'm 100 % sure Nigel is no gooner. If it's England versus USA, they got to move it to Jamestown in Virginia. All right. Just for the good of everything. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, our two will be on the other side. We have a massive moment for an incredible stud high school football player. And then Mike Tirico will join us as well.

56:57Pat McAfee:Be a friend to have a friend. Something nice might change your life.

57:25and availability varies 18 plus.

57:29Mike Tirico:And we're live on match day as Doug reaches for a Buffalo wing. He's got it. Oh, and he's gone for a can of Pepsi too. What a finish. There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match days deserve Pepsi.

57:47Pat McAfee:Sports are the greatest. It's not just me up here. Obviously, I get a chance to chat about sports every day with a great group of guys. Let's go to the Talks at the Table So at Boston Corner and Ty's shit right now, right? Yeah, he ate healthy today, and we know how that goes with Ty. When he eats healthy, it just never agrees with his body. I do hope that one day he'll make a good decision eating-wise, and it won't punish him. He's just got to eat like shite. That's kind of good. Goes in, supposed to come out. Yeah, clean shot. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. One half of the hammer. Dad.

58:16Pat McAfee:Cowboys AP Tone is here. You know, because, like, my dad, for instance, whenever he was starting to get in shape, you know, He would openly go out of his way to tell you, like, had a salad last night, I shit all night. So I'm trying. It's not. It becomes like a reason to not do good. Like, yeah, yesterday I had three Red Bulls, and I had some fried Oreos and chicken tenders and a quesadilla late night. Feel good. Then I also had some ice cream, and it was great. And then I wake up, and I'm good. Now granted, people say I have some sort of stomach problem, but I feel good. I feel fine. I had a lettuce last night, had a salad because you guys are all super geniuses and I'm supposed to take care of myself.

59:02Pat McAfee:And I dumped all over myself all night. It always seems to happen. I don't like that it happens because for Ty, we would like him to try more vegetables more often. But it does feel like it's problematic for this guy's asshole to do that. Yeah, he said right when we went to break, spicy broccoli. It just had, I had to get spicy broccoli today, and now it's just eating me up inside. That's part, I mean, that's a part of the body, though. You know, like. Exactly. The human aspect of this entire thing is pretty crazy, because Ty's brain tells him he needs to IV Red Bull in him. You know, and that's just not the best, I guess, for some humans.

59:36Had a graveyard up here. He must have just cleaned it out. He had four or five of them up here yesterday after the show, so I don't know. He must have just, he must be turning over a new leaf,

59:44Pat McAfee:but this is how it goes. We will certainly send somebody in to make sure he didn't fall in here in a matter of moments because this is a little bit alarming how long he's been in there. I heard it. It was violent.

59:54Darius Butler:I just heard it. It sounded like an explosion. I hope that wasn't Ty.

59:58Pat McAfee:Could be Ty. Joining us now live from Anaconda. We'll keep you updated on that particular situation. We have obviously had these types of situations in the past. We do not know the severity of this particular one. If Ty is back in the next five minutes, I think that would be good. If it's longer than five, I think we should send Mitt in there with a splunking light and a scuba mask. to go see what the... Paul Stakes in here! There he is. There he is. Atta boy, Tom. Good gate. Good gate. You look light. He looks light. He looks light. Kind of dragging there a little bit at the end. Was scared to really open it up, I think.

1:00:27Let's not go too different. That was a fatal miscalculation. I thought I had time, but, you know, I will inform you guys that I have been re-elected as the mayor of Butt-Piss City. Okay. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. Were you running unopposed or was there someone else I was in there I was going to say I know you may have been the incumbent D-bone always Well yeah Congrats you've been in this title before You've been there before Honestly I mean I think I still got You know another term In me at some point Yeah I know what are you going to do I haven't had toxic sludge like that in quite some time But Well, I'm not going to put the restaurant out there because I've had it every day this week, and it is delicious, and it's actually healthy, but I think that's part of the process.

1:01:19Yeah, we were talking about the process. A lot of greens in there, whatnot. Yeah, of course. You guys know Scotch-a-roos? What's that? Scotch-a-roos. It's like the Rice Krispies that just has a layer of chocolate over time. It basically looks like a sheet cake. Oh, yeah. Okay, nice. I don't think I've ever had a shit like that And I've had damn near every single kind There is You name it We're happy you're back man Thank you I thought he was going to talk about food that he ate No no spicy broccoli though You got to watch for it it will get you Joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man Who is Sounding like mortars As long as it's moving We're very worried about you You missing the call.

1:02:08You missed the bell. No, I know. And I thought I actually stood up to come back out. No, no, no. Sit back. Sit your ass down. Smart. Listen to the body. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from Anatic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion. It's great to see him back. He is. For now. AJ Hall. Got it, baby. Hall. And we thought we lost him.

1:02:32Pat McAfee:Obviously, he's still good, which is great news. and happy to hear that. Ladies and gentlemen, every once in a while, we get a chance to be a part of a historic day for folks. AJ, good to see you, by the way. Great to see you. Congrats on re-election for Ty. We were all pretty proud of him. Yeah. Yeah, we knew he was running for something. We didn't know that was it again because we had seen him in this title and position before, and it is entertaining for us, for sure. But he's going through it, and we need to remember that as we laugh in his face and potentially at his actions. But, you know, AJ, every once in a while, we get a chance to be a part of some magical days for folks.

1:03:05Pat McAfee:We get a chance to celebrate the hell out of the future generation of sports. We get a chance to let a university know that they are picking up an absolute baller. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for another superstar commitment.

1:03:33It's a big day for some big names, mm, lockin' in the play in some big games It's a big day for some big names, lockin' in the play in some big games Where you goin' next? Recruitin' is like chess Got a 4D if you wanna be the best Announce it on the show, where you gonna go? Everybody waitin', they all wanna know It's a big day for some big names Lockin' in the play in some big games Just a big day for some big names. Locking in the play in some big games. Ladies and gentlemen, who's going where next? We shall find out.

1:04:11Pat McAfee:A man who is a Jesuit Tiger down there in Tampa, Florida. Where's the number one? Plays outside linebacker. He's also on kickoff coverage. And I think if you were to throw him the ball, he'd be able to score. An absolute stud. Six foot two. Two hundred and twenty pounds. Number one outside linebacker in the country, Caden Henderson. How are you, Caden? Oh, we can't hear you. We can't hear you. Hold on. It's on us, Kaden. We can't hear you. You look good, though. If it means anything. Mom, you look amazing. There we go. There we go. We got you now. Yes, sir. Thank you for joining us, Kaden and family.

1:04:52Pat McAfee:We are so appreciative that we get a part of this magical day for you. And Kaden, we're watching your highlights. First of all, you on kickoff coverage seems unfair, but I want to let you know I appreciate you doing that for the team. Just for you. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Let's keep doing that for the rest of this, for the kickers out there. But it feels like you're obvious. Your instincts are outrageous. Your speed, incredible. Your power, everything like that. Can you tell us a little bit about the journey to today? When did you start becoming this force of nature on the football field? And how has the recruiting trail kind of led you to today, Caden?

1:05:30Yeah, it's been great. I got my first offer of January, my freshman year. I'm sitting here today with 52, so it's really been a blessing. I've been around all over the country. You know, my parents are going to, you know, take me all over. So I've seen everywhere. But today I know a home is, so I'm excited for that.

1:05:44Pat McAfee:Congratulations on getting to your decision. We'll come to that in a matter of moments. You have your dad, Randy, next to you. Your mom, Desiree. Sister, I assume. Is that sister? Sister. What's her name? Daniel. He said just sister. Sister. Okay, hey, okay, that's on me. I don't know what the hell just happened to you, but I love everything that's going on over there. Congratulations to your parents, Caden. Congratulations to your family. Congratulations to your school. And if you want to let the world know where you're going to be taking your football talent to next, we'd love to hear it, brother.

1:06:20Pat McAfee:Congrats on all of it. Thank you. So first, I want to thank God for giving me here all the gifts he's given me. And I know for the future, we'll get to score for it. I want to thank my parents and my family, my sister, different points, and as a young man, really just gave me all the strengths that I have today. I want to thank everybody for coming here today. You guys don't have to take your time and be here. But with that being said, I just want to thank my coach, Coach Palmer, all the coaches out here that you guys have forwarded to me. But, yeah, so with that being said, for the next few or four years, I'll be taking my talents through Texas A &M University.

1:06:55Oh! Oh!

1:07:00Hey, congratulations to the family, to Caden, to Texas A &M, to Coach Elko, to the boys down there in College Station. We love it down there. We absolutely love it down there. Caden, can you tell me why you picked Texas A &M to be your next home for football? And to be clear, we did not know there. And I don't think a lot of people knew necessarily where Caden was headed to, Why Texas A &M and what led you to this pick? I think it was the best place for me and my family. I think I have a great relationship with the staff. Shout out to Darius, Joyner, T-Wale, everybody on the staff. I think it starts out with Elko.

1:07:35It's a great coach. I think he's built something special in College Station. I definitely want to be a part of it. I think you can see it from across all websites. We're number one recruiting class. It's definitely something I want to be a part of. I think Coach T-Wale, the linebacker, is going to pour into me. It really is helping me get to the most of my goal in the NFL I'm good, I'm good.

1:07:55Pat McAfee:Well, to the entire family, obviously, we've got a chance to go down there and see it and experience it. They're going to welcome you in there. They're going to give you everything you possibly could need to have a great experience. And go take a run at that national championship, Caden. You're the man. Thank you for letting us be a part of this, and congratulations, Caden. Thank you. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. All right, I like that setup. You see the balloons there? Perfect. Beautiful. Now, I do believe we're going off the laptop microphone, So I think some of the boys, either coaches or teammates, were super jacked up.

1:08:25Pat McAfee:I think there were some people even making last-minute pitches there. I do believe that one had some questions.

1:08:32Darius Butler:Big time. I saw a projection from a day ago to Notre Dame. When those people make their crystal ball projections, they normally think they know where they're going.

1:08:41Pat McAfee:And for us, it's not necessarily the school. There has been times in the past where a school has reached out to us and said, hey, can you do this for one of our guys who wants to be part of it? It's like, yeah, no problem. That's happened every once in a while. Agents have reached out. Players have reached out directly and done it. So it's like in this particular one, I think it was a manager or agent or something that reached out. And then all of a sudden it was like, hey, we're ready to do it. No, we're not ready to do it. And then inevitably it was like, we're going to make our decision on this day.

1:09:09Pat McAfee:Is that cool? It's like, yeah, absolutely. All good, man. We're a big fan of the way you operate and play football. He's a stud. This guy is 6 '2", 220. That's going to get up to 230 probably, 235 maybe. He's going to be an absolute monster on a football field. We're lucky to be a part of it. We're thankful to be a part of it. But I didn't know where he was going, AJ. I genuinely had no idea where he was headed. I get lost in these clips watching the dude finish. You talk about finishing tackles. It's fun to watch him play. When you can move in space like this, yeah, there's a reason he's the number one linebacker in the country.

1:09:37Just how he moves in space has changed direction and then how violently he finishes his tackles. He's going to be fun to watch in the future. Florida boy out of Tampa. seems like he's got great moxie. Oh, yeah. I enjoyed that. The number one looks clean, too, on a football field or whatever. You're tackling and destroying everybody. Very clean. That was the first thing I saw as well, how he finishes. AJ always taught when we are boots on the ground with the field pass. AJ, that's one of the first things AJ looks at, how guys finish, how physical they are. And that's one of the things that jumps off the tape.

1:10:05His explosiveness, how he finishes. Obviously, Cassius Howell was their premier pass rusher there at Texas A &M, so you would expect him to get up there and play earlier. A five-star like this, going at number one recruit in the country, going in there already at 220. Like you said, he may be 240 by the time that first game comes. I can't wait. I love these commitments. Every time I see it, especially with the set up. Everything these kids, their young men, have to deal with and everything that's on their plate, so important to have the right people around them. And I feel like a lot of these guys that come in, they got the right people and systems around them.

1:10:37So I'm just rooting for all of them. That was dope for Caden, though.

1:10:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, college football soon. Yeah. Very soon. Remember, Schrags brought it up earlier about the Soresby decision. He's like, hey, July 10th is the pro day workout, and then whenever the draft's going to be, and then we've got training camp coming up soon. We're almost there, AJ. 83 days. I know. We're almost. Can't wait. You know what I thought when I heard the July 10th Soresby workout? I thought of all the scouts and assistant coaches that are like, oh, that's my one break of the year. Now I've got to go back and watch this thing. To hell with this kid. Yeah, because I was talking, we were talking yesterday.

1:11:06Who did we talk to about it yesterday? Pete. Pete. Talking to Pete Dammel.

1:11:09Pat McAfee:certainly all 32 teams are going to be real well represented at this workout he was former number a first round overall projection you know so some teams are going to sniff around it's not if somebody will be there how many people and what people will be there and because my first question whenever i heard july 10th to your point was like how many teams are going to be at this i mean because if it's on camera you know just like the combine will people just opt to watch the footage as opposed to being there well then guys are going to want to shake hands talk to them kind of meet them a little bit get a chance to feel the energy around them and how people are reacting to them.

1:11:40Pat McAfee:But yeah, I agree with you. People having their off time. And remember, the off time for the NFL is literally like 13 days for something. It's like that is it. Every other time they're under a desk. Under here. They're under here. Some of the guys in the scouting departments? Oh my God. They gotta peel off rugs off the floor to get these guys out from underneath it because that's how long they are in the facility whenever football season happens just so they can hopefully potentially one day become an assistant to an assistant something. That is like the goal of getting in there and that's some of it.

1:12:12And now they're like, hey, good news. Saw your family. How many days? Had 4th of July, right? 250th birthday. Good news. I need everything on Soresby by the 8th. And then I need your ass in Carroll High School by the 10th. Thanks. See ya. I wasn't supposed to be back to like the 15th or 16th.

1:12:28Pat McAfee:Got good news for you. Maybe the future quarterback of our entire program. Need you to go figure it out. I'm not going to be able to go. I'm obviously out of the country here. But the entire organization is depending on you, bud. Go ahead and do that. We trust you. I think there's going to be a lot of that. Yeah, for sure. Regional scouts going there with more pressure on them than they've ever had. Hey, every piece of information is coming through you, kid. So let's make sure we go ahead and do that. But on the field, people probably already have their projections on what he is, right?

1:12:55Darius Butler:Yes. Yeah, because Pete said it yesterday. The transfer portal thing happened late for him. There was rumors and speculation that he was going to the league. So they were probably scouting him all last season with the chance that he was going to the league. But yeah, now it's probably like, hey, we want to get our hands on him to talk to him and see where he's at mentally.

1:13:13Pat McAfee:Now, the Soresby judge situation, injunction situation, could potentially be the inflection point that does lead to there being coming some guardrails on college sports as a whole. The next step has been taken in that entire thing. The Senate's Commerce Committee has voted to pass Protect College Sports Act to the Senate floor, which means the potential of a full vote, which would be a first. There's still significant opposition from Big Ten and SEC, but another notable step. But we did hear after the last time this was talked about, like last Wednesday or something like that, or two Wednesdays ago, because this has all been expedited fully, but everything in government takes forever, it seems like.

1:13:49Pat McAfee:And them saying, we just voted to have a vote. Okay. All right. Thank you for doing that. Checks and balances. Let's make sure we go through all the proper parties. Both parties are behind this. There's a lot of huge names in football that are behind this. There are some guardrails, but it is not perfect in anybody's eyes, but that's kind of legislation. Is anybody ever going to get everything that they want? Petiti and Sankey came out in a joint statement right before this last one, and we're like, we hate it. We're like, come on, come on, come on, what are we doing? Ted Cruz won't met with them.

1:14:15Pat McAfee:Allegedly, there was some advancement in that particular thing. So hopefully we're able to figure it out. And maybe the Soresby situation is the one that brings everybody together, saying we can't have this, AJ. Can't have this be what happens. I would hope so. You would hope something comes from this. Because we know college football is going with something. They're going to have to come up with some kind of guardrails as we continue to hear that buzzword being thrown around. But what does it look like and when does it happen? Because, as you said, things are very slow moving when it comes to all these people getting involved.

1:14:41But at least they're trying, I guess. Didn't it feel... No, not going to say it. Not going to say it. What's that? I'll say it for you. What was it? Okay, so nobody...

1:14:55Oh.

1:15:04yeah i guess it would be possible what you are saying pat that this could be you said you could be somewhat of a work i'm sorry guys yeah that was rest in my ear not to you guys yeah i think this could be somewhat of a work you know the stores be situation pat i'm not i'm not exactly sure i blacked out after you said a couple of times oh geez age you said you would

1:15:22Pat McAfee:say what i was going to say i trusted you i dropped you a seed of what i'm saying is a work isn't how for like a non-wrestling person explain what you what that means no it just feels like the timing of the soresby thing while we're doing a vote for all of this it just feels like it could it feels like this would be in a wrestling timing situation like the biggest baddest thing to happen to sport happening in the middle of thing being passed through government at the same exact time it's like the timing of the soresby situation coming not that they work i'm not saying it was a work but the timing of it being the way it is with the voting happening at the same time so them being able to say like huh?

1:16:01Pat McAfee:This is the worst? It's like almost like that's a crazy coincidence. What do you say AJ? Who's in on it? Yeah what do you say AJ? You said it was a work. I said people could appear that it's a work. You're saying it is a work. Are you trying to say this whole thing is a simulation? Like this goes above everything? Is that what you're trying to say? You will never get to say what I think about saying. Never. I heard Messi say there are no coincidences in a pump up speech he had to the boys a little bit ago. I'll tell you what, Messi can get me pumped up for anything, especially when that left foot is as lethal as it is.

1:16:35Was he speaking English or Portuguese?

1:16:38Darius Butler:Yeah, did you read him to say that? He was talking to the boys in Portuguese, whatever he speaks, and it was they translated and put the words up on the screen for dumb English people like me that can read. I don't think we're dumb because we speak English. I think for a long time most people spoke English and now it seems like less people are starting to do it. Doesn't it? Well, I think a lot of people speak English. They just speak a bunch other languages too i think we're kind of the only people who just speaking yeah but we different than everybody else we speak a lot of languages that's right yeah i'm on day 340 of duolingo oh yeah how's that going don't test me don't test me i don't want to disrespect um you don't disrespect the language what you talk about i thought why are you learning it i gotta

1:17:17Pat McAfee:learn it you're gonna disrespect it i got a i got a bad feeling i got a funny feeling me and zito we talk in strictly so it's espanyol yeah but we know zito can't do that because zito's only one way in he can't go out that's a work i believe that probably what yeah you got to watch multiple language speakers it's a lot of times it's a word choi for example for duh doesn't speak a lick of

1:17:37Darius Butler:english no that has never been perfect english that has never ever been said kershaw she told

1:17:41Pat McAfee:us let's go to world cup conversation as we talk about the depth of this particular program um i do like the little hubbub there was about the coverage of the world cup though yeah you know i I do like the hubbub.

1:17:55Darius Butler:A little inside baseball. There has been a little bit of that. A lot of people learning about stuff, you know,

1:18:00Pat McAfee:and getting sued and C's and D's and all these things that happen in this particular world. I mean, we've got to worry about that every single day. Actually, every single day. And the Fox people in our company's history, they've sent us cease and desist on our own content that they have run on their shows. So they would rip our stuff without consent. They would just put it on their shows, react to it. then they would put it up on their YouTube or whatever and then they would hit us, our original show with a C &D. So Fox is very, I mean they are very hey yeah, it's our, they are very, which by the way you run your business however the hell you want to run your business, that's kind of how it is.

1:18:39Pat McAfee:But with the World Cup stuff, it's like it would be really cool to be able to show these highlights. Yeah, they suck actually when it comes to this entire thing just because of all the greatness that we love about the World Cup and it's like hey it'd be cool to show everybody. It's a showcase that is bigger than just a rights deal. You know, we are a sport, but we're not a news show. But I think we should be. What, do we got to put a tie on? How do we go into that? We were down to a news show during COVID. Definitely, yeah. So why does that not translate over the last six years? We'll dive into the rights deal a little bit more before the next World Cup, hopefully.

1:19:11Pat McAfee:Is it up, actually, the next World Cup? They don't play around, those highlights. No, they do not. No, I mean, they were taking our footage, putting it on their thing and suing us. I mean, so they don't. There is a lot of money invested in these things. We understand it. but I don't like the immediate like you guys should be doing more. It's like. We'd love to. You know what? Ken Burns only created one effect. Okay. Can you give me another one that we can fill the time with and make it look like they're going to maybe a burst, maybe give us a bursting option. But if we put too many photos too closely, is it just a video that's being stopped?

1:19:40True. And then are they going to get us to the rights? You know, there's all this type of. Live photo. I know a guy.

1:19:43Darius Butler:Heads will roll. Yep. Heads will roll. Which guy do you know? I don't think anybody is talking about that at all. You know. But I appreciate the fact that you know that.

1:19:52Pat McAfee:We have been watching every single minute of soccer that we possibly could. Nobody expected that out of us. I think even us didn't expect that. But we have decided this program should put together, after a first round of games, a start in 11. Yes. Gumpy kind of took this to task. Hell yeah. Gumpy has put together his first game World Cup starting 11. And to the players that make this team, congratulations. This is the biggest earn of your life. Dumpy, can you please go through the crew? I see a 10 million follower Instagram guy in goal. I know he's living his best life.

1:20:26Darius Butler:Yeah, we got a little bit of an offensive formation here, 3-3-4. We couldn't leave any of these strikers out. Baligan with two, Kane with two, Holland with two, Mbappe with two. You go to the middle of the park. Bellingham took that game over for England in the second half. Messi dug goat with a hattie. Just had two for New Zealand, kind of a shocker. He's a dog as well. Richards, Virgil, and Romero at the back. I mean, that's all you need is three back there with those guys.

1:20:51Pat McAfee:So I like the starting 11, and congratulations to Messi on earning this title.

1:20:54Darius Butler:Yeah.

1:20:55Pat McAfee:I think this is one that he did not have in his bag. AJ, when you look at that starting 11, what's your first thought? Well, first off, that 3-3-5 configuration, I love that. You know, it's a very offensive situation, as they say. But I understand, you know, I mentioned Ronaldo a bunch. Did he get slighted here? I understand he hasn't scored in, what, 10 World Cup games, 10 internationals?

1:21:14Darius Butler:The other team's goalie had more touches than him in the game, dude. A quadruple team in him, probably. I understand he hasn't scored in 10 World Cup games, but I was wondering if he could be on this team. You wanted to bury Ronaldo? Was that to put over Lumet? No, no, no. I'm genuinely asking questions. Because it seems so difficult to even get a shot on goal in this whole situation, let alone score. So when those games continue to stack up, let's set them up. Let's give them an easy one somehow.

1:21:42Pat McAfee:Hey, Sogs are a big deal. Hey, Sogs are a big deal. Now, on that note, that's why this starting 11 is so hard to crack. Yeah. You're talking about all the stars, though, showing up. I mean, basically all the stars scored. All the one. Except for the guy you were mentioning there. But also the style of game. I mean, this is Golden State Warrior. Soccer is buzzing, right? I mean, they are attacking. There is a lot of attacking going on as opposed to like sitting back looking for 0-0. It looks like teams are trying to score. I think that might be why people are also interested in this particular brand of soccer.

1:22:14Pat McAfee:Definitely Team USA. Team USA, we got two guys on the starting 11. That would have never happened before. Now, granted, it should have been 11. I was going to say you could argue that Reamer got absolutely hosed.

1:22:25Darius Butler:We got McKinney on the bench there. Is Ponch the coach? Duh. Ponch is the gaffer. I didn't do a gaffer. Well, we know that Ponch is the gaffer. I think it's Ponch and Tuchel, England and USA gaffers together.

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1:26:39Pat McAfee:We can all set the pace on how it's going to be. It's going to be fun.

1:26:42Darius Butler:Yes.

1:26:43Pat McAfee:It's not going to be something that ruins lives. And hopefully that is the Soresby story whenever he moves on to wherever he goes and he can kind of become one of the faces of that whole thing as we enter a society that's definitely going to do that. Joe Burrow speaking about his Cincinnati Bengals team. You know, whenever they spend the amount of money that they spend on the offensive weapons, you wonder are the Cincinnati Bengals ever going to be able to win? And how come they're not giving Trey Hendrickson a money? A guy gets the most sacks in the NFL. What the hell is the deal over there? These people don't seemingly care about ball at all.

1:27:11Pat McAfee:Well, Trey's at the Ravens because they didn't want Max Crosby for some reason. And Sexy Dexy now has come over to the Cincinnati Bengals. And then you start looking at the offense. There's superstars everywhere. Joe Burrow says, you know what this kind of reminds me of? 2019 LSU. Oh, really? I hope so. I hope so. I think that's great. You know, put pressure on guys. I love it. I thrive in it. We'll find out who else does. I know that we have the kind of people that want to be in that spot. I want everybody talking about the Bengals. I want everybody talking about what I'm saying in my press conferences.

1:27:52Mike Tirico:Is he, you know, you go back and watch what I said before. 2019 season at LSU, you know, I feel very similarly about this team. you know I'm so excited to get started and get moving and I wish we would ramp this right into training camp so we can continue to improve because I feel like you know there's so much greatness that we're going to be able to achieve this year I'm just excited to get going Joe doesn't want a vacation Joe wants to keep going let's talk about that 2019 LSU team shall we obviously champs craziness three top five picks There's only five picks in the top five. Yeah. Okay, three of them.

1:28:34Three of them. Good math, right, dude? Yeah, just so we can point this out. Top five, there's only five of them. Three of them. LSU. Seven first-round picks. Very good. Okay, ten day two picks.

1:28:45Pat McAfee:34 total players trapped. Who are they? We got those as well, obviously. 2019 LSU superstars. Joe Burrow, Derek Stingley, Jamar Chase, Chazon, Justin Jefferson, Patrick Killeen, Clyde Edwards, and more. There's 34 total on that team that was there. You know, you go back to like the FSU-Miami game. I think people always talk about the amount of NFL guys and the amount of talent on that field. That LSU team now, looking back on it, it's like they were an NFL roster. And they would go on to take over and become something special. I like that Joe's kind of reminiscent about those days because those were great days for LSU.

1:29:19Yeah, that team, I mean, that go down in history. Whenever you have arguments or debates of greatest college football teams ever, that would definitely be in the argument to 0-1 Hurricanes, teams like that. And I love this. If I'm a teammate of Joe Burrow, if I'm a fan of his, of the Bengals, like I love hearing your quarterback put it out there, put those expectations out there, having that mindset. But, I mean, the Bengals being compared to this, I mean, that was one of the greatest teams of all time. Maybe he's seeing something we're not. And like I said. You're not there. If I was, the only similarities I see is obviously Joe Burrow, Chase, and them being a Tiger.

1:29:55Yeah, the same. That's a lot. I didn't even think about it. A lot of jungle. In the jungle. I mean, that's a lot of things. That's as far as those comparisons go. But if I'm in the foxhole with him, I love this from my quarterback. And he's going to show up. And he's shown up since he stepped foot in the league. So, it's just going to be about what he's always been about. How do they build that team around him? How does that defense show up? We know the offense is going to put up numbers. Great two-headed monster, wide receiver. How can they protect him? Those are the same questions with the Bengals kind of every year since that Super Bowl run.

1:30:23Pat McAfee:AJ, your thoughts on Joseph Burrow being a hell of a leader over there for the Bengals and the pressure being on him to win in Cincinnati since the day he got drafted, that this is it. Hey, bring a championship to Ohio, bub. That's what you're supposed to do. Absolutely. It seemed like the perfect situation when he gets drafted by the Bengals, being an Ohio kid from Athens not too far from there, and comes in and has so much success early, I feel like. The pressure's been on him from the jump, and it continues to grow now because of how great he played early in his career. So I think it's awesome.

1:30:50He says he thrives in those circumstances, and I think that trickles down to the rest of the team.

1:30:55Pat McAfee:Talk about greatness, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is DeGote, a man who can be on a microphone in any situation, any setting, and make it great. I think if there was a surgery happening and it was to be performed live on television, he would be the only one that would make it seem like it's enjoyable watch. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who calls basketball, the Olympics, football, and even golf happening today at the U.S. Open, third major of the year for the golf world. Joining us, a man who helped me whenever we were heading into the finals all-access altcast, legend Mike Tirico.

1:31:27Mike Tirico:Hello, boys. How we doing?

1:31:30Pat McAfee:I think you were sitting on there and listening to the Joe Burrow situation with the Bengals. Obviously, the Bengals and the AFC don't get a lot of Super Bowl chatter, but it sounds like Joe would like to change that, Mike. I love that out of the Ohio boy.

1:31:42Mike Tirico:One of my favorite production meetings, one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch and listen to. I love Burrow. 2019 LSU team that you guys put up all those players, you know who wasn't on the list? The guy who was their passing game coordinator. Really got them spread offense, Joe Brady. Exactly. Now the Bills coach. So part of this whole deal with that unbelievable list of talent, I love Burrow throwing it out there. You know, if the Rams are going to be this team that is all in, like they were for Super Bowl 56, they played the Bengals. So why not? Go back at it. And maybe we'll see Joe Burrow against Joe Brady's team for the AFC Championship this year.

1:32:20Mike Tirico:Who knows? But I like the fact that they did address some stuff on the defense. Their offense, can they stay healthy? Can they protect Joe? If they can, they can be in every game. And I know my partner, Collinsworth, would love to see the Bengals play meaningful football late in the season. We were there when they beat the Raiders to break their playoff drought. It had been a long time. And, man, the jungle was rocking. That's a great football city. As you guys know, AJ, you know the whole Ohio thing. So that'd be fun to see. And he's the kind of guy who I think the league loves to watch. People who are fans of other teams love to watch Joe Burrow go back there and sling it.

1:32:57Mike Tirico:Maybe it's against your team and you don't. But if you respect good football and a quarterback playing the game, carrying his team and being the front man for it and being the pilot of the big plane that is a franchise, Burrow's that kind of guy.

1:33:10Pat McAfee:I love the promo you just got for Joe Burr. And obviously the AFC is stacked. So if they are able to get back to the mountaintop and get to the Super Bowl, I think the world will enjoy how Joe Burr handles the big moment. He's always played well in the biggest stages. He is a guy that is ready for the moment. When we ever get back to the biggest stage, we shall see. The way it ended, you recall, Aaron Donald. If Aaron Donald doesn't break that game, Jamar Chase maybe scores touchdown there. Bengals win Super Bowl. Aaron Donald might be coming back. He might be coming back. Have you heard that, Mike?

1:33:41Pat McAfee:Have you heard that?

1:33:43Mike Tirico:I've heard it. How crazy is what the Rams have done this offseason, right? And, you know, what did they do in the draft? They take Ty Simpson, right? So people are going, wait a minute, what's going on here? What do you use draft capital for to get a quarterback of the future? So if they believe they have their quarterback of the future and they've got their quarterback of the present, then why not blank those picks and go, right? And so they get all in and do it. And now Miles Garrett is there. And if Aaron Donald just decides to show up for, you know, 10, 12 games or, you know, maybe who knows?

1:34:19Mike Tirico:Even without. Remember, their defensive front was stacked with all these young guys. Obviously, the trade takes one piece of that away. But add Miles Garrett to the front four guys that they have in the rotation they have up front. And that's a dangerous defense. So Stafford, get him a lead. Quarterback pass rush shuts down games in the fourth quarter. I can't tell you, if I heard it once, I heard it a thousand times from John Gruden, fourth quarter pass rush wins games. Right, AJ? Over and over and over. Pressure the quarterback in the fourth quarter. When you have a lead, you win games. They're going to do it with Miles Garrett, because if he's getting two, and those other guys are free, Aaron Donald or not, Rams are going to be a problem.

1:34:58Mike Tirico:And that's such a great acquisition.

1:34:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, we agree. We got a chance to chat with Snead afterwards. And it's not, he doesn't have the mentality of blank those picks. And thanks for saying that instead of frick those picks, because blank sounds much better than frick. Thank you. Because you're an adult. You know that. You understand that as a human in there. But he is talking. All his draft picks, he's hit. You know, like he is a very good drafter as well. It's like he is also an incredible drafter. He's like super. I think he rolls the dice, poker player. He will move a lot. But with what he has, he also hits. They're doing a great job over there in not only going for it right now, but also building for the future.

1:35:31Pat McAfee:And if Stafford plays forever, which he might, because that immortal chamber. Yeah. I mean, who knows what happens? Okay, let's pivot away from the NFL, and it's amazing that you obviously have that all understood. Right now, let's talk about the major, U.S. Open. It's a huge deal. The Shinnecock course early beat the hell out of Harry Huggs. Higgs. Higgs, geez. What's this guy's name? Harry Higgs. He needs a hug. Well, I think everybody's going to, right? Is that kind of your big takeaway to what the U.S. Open normally is and what we should expect out of the Shinnecock course? They're talking about the wind being like, I don't want to bring up biblical, But I mean, with the fog this morning, with what it could be, is that what we should expect all weekend?

1:36:07Pat McAfee:How do you see it going down?

1:36:10Mike Tirico:Well, usually the U.S. Open is defined by lightning fast greens. And because of the severity of the greens, the history of what happened here the last time the Open was here in 2018 and past U.S. Opens here, they slowed the green speeds down significantly because they want to be able to be, one, playable in the big wind that's forecast. let's see it's 140 right now it's forecast in the next couple hours to be 25 mile an hour winds with higher gusts if it gets too windy you have to stop play because the ball will not stay after you place it and mark it on the green so there's the concern of that so that on top of what's happened in the past trying to get through these first two rounds the conditions right now are hard they may be harder later this afternoon but the rest of the week looks like it'll be very playable which means this golf course will show its teeth.

1:37:03Mike Tirico:The greens will get a little faster in all likelihood. And par is a great score. The U.S. Open, you throw out the mindset of almost every other week on tour. Par is a good score. You shoot 70, 71, 72 today. That's great. You're in the mix. And if you look at the leaderboard already, for the most part, there's not like, oh, here's the surprise guy who's 19 or 22, qualified, playing his first U.S. Open. It's kind of big names on the board just through the morning wave of guys and that shows you how hard this golf course is already and it's going to be one of those weeks where i think you're not going to have the guy from out of nowhere maybe one but not many who are going to be in the mix come saturday and sunday can't wait to watch it all go ahead aj yeah mike i guess who are some of the guys you're you're possibly looking at that have the type of style of play i guess that could win here you said par is a good score i'm sure that gets boring for these guys over and over again continuing leaving themselves in the right spot and then just hopefully two putting for park who do you think has the mindset to go in and play four great days and find a way to win it aj that's why guys like mackle where he just showed and scheffler and sam burns the guys who are in the top 10 in the world guys who won major championships like a brooks kepka right who uh has back-to-back us opens you're gonna you know look you never know you can't play defense in golf so you have no idea if a guy is gonna have a bad week or if a guy's have a great week out of nowhere.

1:38:23Mike Tirico:But by and large, the guys who can do three things. One, great ball strikers. Because if it's windy, you've got to pick a line, and it's got to stay on that line because it's going to get blown. So you've got to say, okay, I've got to start over here instead of over here. That's fine. You've got to hit it on that line. You've got to hit it solid so it doesn't flutter and get blown all around. Great ball strikers. Two, terrific putters. These are hard greens when the winds are down, which we'll see later on in the week, and they're really fast. There's always a little nuanced break. And three, scramblers.

1:38:55Mike Tirico:Guys who miss greens and can get up and down out of nowhere. And that's Scheffler. That's Rory. The guys with the terrific short game. So the guys who have these complete games, Ludwig Goldberg, you're seeing there, he's gotten off to a good start. I think he's still tied for the league. Yeah, he is. He's 200 par. So those are the guys who are going to hang around this week. It is not a week for somebody who has a flaw in their game where they can hit it so far that it's not going to matter and they'll be able just to bang it up on the green and get hot with the putter. Every part of your game gets exposed here.

1:39:26Mike Tirico:That's why those big names that we talk about all the time, at a U.S. Open on a really tough course, usually those are the guys who are around it.

1:39:33Pat McAfee:The U.S. Open likes to say that they find the best golfer in the world, right? That's kind of their thing. They try to make the courses as hard as possible. We would like to find the golfer who can hit every shot that they need to. And if they miss, they're going to be punished. You missed that fairway, I mean, you're punished. I mean, it is a true ass beating out there with that fescue or whatever the hell. It is. I'll be excited to hear how that is kind of – because technically that could take over the entire tournament, right? Oh, yeah.

1:40:00Mike Tirico:So you see that shot there with the ball disappearing in the rough? That's usually what we talk about at U.S. Opens, right? The rough is this thick. You can't hack it out. You can't get it out. The USGA did something different this year. I'm going to give you a couple of things on that first. The rule is you're allowed 14 clubs in your bag. And the USGA's mantra is they want you to use all 14 clubs. They want you to get long irons, short irons, drivers, four woods, five woods, whatever you have in your bag, mini drivers, 56 degree wedges. They want you to use all 14 clubs in your bag and get them dirty, right?

1:40:34Mike Tirico:So, you know, you're done with the round. The guy who you're paying five bucks to clean your clubs would have to wipe off every club. Get them all dirty. But they say they want the 15th club to get dirty. And that's your mind. And don't go there. Not a dirty mind. But they want you to use your mind. Yeah, we get it. We get it. Yeah, golf. I know you do. Yeah, try to get in the hole. Got it. Yeah. Long shafts. Yeah. There you go. And stroking. Yeah. Yeah, we get it. Yeah, we understand. Could I be any stupid? I ran right into that person. Yeah, dumping balls up there. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. They want you to use your head.

1:41:09Mike Tirico:They want to make sure that you think constantly around the golf course and you're plotting. Stay below the hole. I can't be here. I can't be here. They want you to do that. And then the other thing that used to be a big USGA feel to a championship like this is they want a target score, like let's set even par win. Well, in chasing that, sometimes they messed with the setup too much of a golf course. So what they've done now is their mantra this week is let's let Shinnecock, one of the great golf courses, one of the five original clubs that made up the USGA back when it started in the 1890s, let's let Shinnecock be Shinnecock.

1:41:45Mike Tirico:This golf course is hard enough when member play is out here and it's windy out on the edge of Long Island. So the greens are up at high speed. We don't need to shrink the fairways, which they used to do at these US Opens at Shinnecock. So the fairways are playing at an average width of 48 yards. That's pretty generous, but that's because the golf course can be so hard with the wind. So you play it what it normally plays like. And if 500 wins or 700 wins, that's great. I don't think that's happening. And I think the winning score, you'd sign for a couple under par right now for the week and be really happy.

1:42:17Mike Tirico:But I think they have finally figured out, let's not try to manufacture. Let's just let this great golf course be this great golf course. I like their approach. Can you dial it in perfectly? We don't know. But I think they've got a really good shot to do it this year.

1:42:30Pat McAfee:Thank you for all that information from inside the clubhouse, literally and figuratively. We appreciate that. 48 yards is the average width of the fairway. Remember, football field, 53 and a third. Yep. There you go. Just to give a little bit of perspective there, about two and a half yards off each side, and you have a football field fairway. I'll tell you what, I can hit that. Easy. You can't hit a football field? That's crazy. You know, you talked about the scramblers, though. There's been a guy that's been scrambling a lot, but he's the number one golfer in the world. Go ahead, Tony.

1:42:56Darius Butler:Yeah, Mike. I'm going to give you these stats. It's going to be crazy what I'm going to say after it. So, Scotty Schaeffler's played in 12 tournaments this year. He's got seven top fives, 10 top 15s, 12 top 25s. He has not finished outside the top 25 all year. He had a stint where it was three top twos, or three second-place finishes in a row. If you watch golf all the time and you watch Scotty, it doesn't feel like he's been Scotty this year, even with everything that I just said. It feels like on Sundays he comes back and gets those top fives and top two finishes or whatever. He's plus three right now.

1:43:30Darius Butler:What have you heard around the course and around the U.S. Open this week about Scotty and how he feels about his game?

1:43:36Mike Tirico:Well, first things first, he's the biggest story this week because he's trying to complete the career grand slam, which Rory did at the Masters last year. He turns 30 on Sunday. So it'd be amazing to have him complete the career grand slam on the day he turns 30 on Father's Day, father of two and all that stuff. So all that's out there. Scotty has spoiled us the last few years winning so often, winning so many times, including the big tournaments, including major championships. If you look at his numbers, and you did a deep dive there, Tony, If you look even at some other numbers, his putting is actually better this year.

1:44:10Mike Tirico:And that's the stat that we would say, hey, if Scottie's putting numbers were just a little bit better, he'd have more wins. They've been better this year. It's actually been his iron play not being as close in proximity to the hole as it has been other years. And this is a week where if you are a little bit off, it can become a lot off real quickly because the greens, if the greens are large and they are here, the only place you can put a hole location on those greens is about half the size of it. So if they average 8 ,800 square feet, maybe 40 % of that, you can't put a flag because it's a slope that'll take it away, away, away.

1:44:47Mike Tirico:That means Scotty Scheffler has to be good at what he's always been good at, but not as good at this year. And that's accuracy with his irons. So that's the thing to watch with him. He's been on and off a little bit today, but this is a really windy day. Today is, let's survive. This is like you're on the road, college football, crazy atmosphere. Let's survive the first quarter. Let's get settled in, and now let's play. So today is let's get to the first quarter, deep breath. Let's get to the first hydration break and move on.

1:45:16Pat McAfee:Okay, on that note, soccer's becoming quarters, which I don't know if the old school soccer people. But golf, we can't wait for your coverage. Shout out to NBC, by the way, continuing to crush everything. and we appreciate the fact that NBC lets us show some highlights. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. You have you speaking for them. Yeah, absolutely. If you could bless us. No, we do appreciate the hell out of NBC's coverage and what you guys do for sport. We can't wait to follow along with this particular major. Now, let's pivot to another event that is happening in a massive way and we've all kind of caught the fever and you just mentioned it.

1:45:51Pat McAfee:Soccer's changing in America and it might be changing as a whole with the quarters, but it doesn't seem like there's as much flopping and rolling around you know this year as it was in the past because from my understanding flopping was a sign of you being soft okay that was kind of always my understanding even as a punter i hated it i didn't like it you know had some people tell me like hey you sent something you need to go down it's like i'm not on i don't want to be on film doing did you do it did you draw a 15 yarder no i did draw one yes never i never flopped though never flopped i got flipped multiple times three times i got flipped actually because we we kind of went in there two of them i got a penalty on it but nonetheless flopping i and then i talked to the soccer guys and they're like hey the flopping and the rolling around that like gives everybody like a chance to like like breathe for a second so the guy who kind of gets fouled is on the ground he's doing a service for basically the entire field that's why there's the dramatics that come running out with the spray guys are getting water it's like it also feels like a break for everybody as they've been running forever So the hydration breaks might stop that, which is good for sports.

1:46:53Pat McAfee:But also our team is great. Ty has a question for you about all of it. Yeah, Mike, World Cup fever has taken over the entire office, the entire country. You could argue the world right now. And forgive me if you have done this in the past, but with everything that's going on with the World Cup, have you thought like, you know what, hey, man, I'd love to dip my toes in that. And maybe next time the World Cup comes around, I'd like to be in that booth commentating some of those games. Like, is that something that you've considered? I mean, you've done everything else. I feel like that would be just another notch in your belt.

1:47:25And have you been enjoying the World Cup thus far?

1:47:28Mike Tirico:One, I love it. I've pretty much seen almost every match that I've been not on the air for, not traveling, because I love World Cup soccer. So, Ty, I did two of them. I got to host 2010 and 2014. 2010 was in South Africa. 2014 was in Brazil. and I'd say of my 25 years at ESPN, those two events are two of the proudest events that I had the chance to be a part of because I really do think it helped set a bar and introduced the World Cup to the American soccer audience at a very different level. And some of the stuff that Fox is doing right now, international commentators, was our group in 2010, 2014, Amy Rosenfeld, Jed Drake, those are the production folks who were behind a lot of what we did.

1:48:15Mike Tirico:Rob Lemley also. We set a high bar for the coverage of soccer. It had nothing to do with me. I was just on the air. But that group, it was one of my greatest memories to be in South Africa and see South Africa play. To see the U.S. play in person and travel around as being one of those sets inside the stadium. To be at a World Cup final in person. To host the World Cup final in 2014. To see the streets of Brazil go completely empty. I mean, completely empty in Rio de Janeiro at four o 'clock in the afternoon when Brazil was playing. When the national team played, there was a Subway sandwich shop downstairs from where we were doing our host set on Copacabana Beach, on the edge of Copacabana Beach.

1:48:57Mike Tirico:And they would put up a sign, if it was a four o 'clock local start, that we close at three. And that was on the sign of almost every business in Rio in all of Brazil. The country shuts down. And that's what happens around the world. I'm so glad I got to experience that. My son played travel soccer at a high level. I was around it. So I love the sport. I love what the World Cup is about. And I think what's really cool is now not only parents, but a lot of the kids whose first sport was soccer, three-year-olds running around a little pack around the ball and traveling around. That's the first sport for almost every American kid now.

1:49:35Mike Tirico:They play a little bit longer. They know the game. They love what the game is about. And now those people are watching soccer. So I think we've got a whole nation of soccer fans who are coming around to this. And like you said, the U.S. team, that was so fun last Friday to watch that first half. That was great. And what they'll do tomorrow afternoon, you know, if they can beat Australia, get the three points, pretty much cinch up the group. That would be so great for this World Cup in North America and in the U.S. So good for Team USA. Good for Ponchettino for playing a style that's a front foot.

1:50:08Mike Tirico:Go get them. Attack. Let your talented players go. Good for Pulisic for being the guy who's the face of and then coming out and having such an impact on the first half of that match. That was so fun to watch on Friday, and hopefully they can repeat that again on Friday against Australia. The Socceroos from Australia have been good over time, and they were really good in their first match. So that's going to be fun to watch on Friday, and hopefully it'll continue on for another couple of weeks. But it's great to see. Here's the one thing that's also cool. A lot of the international travelers who are coming over and putting their stuff on social media, which is fun, how they're saying how much they love all these stadiums in the U.S.

1:50:45Mike Tirico:And for those of us who've gone to other outdoor stadiums around the world, World Cup or Olympics, like our stadiums are so great in America. We are spoiled. Luxury boxes, even just the concession stands, the areas. We are so spoiled. Our stadiums are even a bad stadium. And MetLife is not the greatest stadium. New York, New Jersey stadium. I'm sorry. I'm not a rights holder. Exactly. You're going to get your ass sued. Hey, that was NBC. That was NBC. Get Greg. Get Cordella. Get Molly. Get Tariq. Get them all. That was him. He said that. Not me. Please. As I was saying, the New York, New Jersey stadium might not be the nicest stadium we have in America compared to Dallas, to Jerry World.

1:51:30Mike Tirico:but it's so nice compared to so many of the other stadiums around the world and i'm loving that international fans are coming over and saying man you guys do sports right here in the u.s so cool time cool experience i hope the next three weeks are great for the sport for fox for everybody

1:51:43Pat McAfee:it's really cool yeah ratings up and to the right for all sports which is spectacular obviously you were riding that wave with mbc with every different sport that you guys are covering it's uh sports is having quite a little run right now as it should and i think it's also uniting you know A lot of these videos that are coming, it feels like the world is coming together more so than ever before because of sport and because of the World Cup. So we're obviously honored that we're going to win it. Yeah. It is so cool. It is so cool that we're going to win that thing, you know, because staying on top of the unity is good.

1:52:13Yeah.

1:52:13Mike Tirico:Yeah, you know, that is. And the finals are at MetLife, right? New York, New Jersey. Don't do that on my show. What are you trying to do to us? We got 15 employees here. We got kids. We got babies. That one was on purpose. Trying to get a suit. Trying to get us done. That's unbelievable, obviously.

1:52:29Pat McAfee:Super genius out there. We have one minute left on ESPN, but we will remain live digitally. We're talking to Mike Tirico, absolute goat right now. We can't let you go because, obviously, this past year, we get a chance to watch you flex your basketball muscle again. You helped me out immensely with that brief call. Not brief. It was like 25 minutes in the middle of your vacation. Brief moment out of your vacation to talk to me. I'm so thankful for. But the NBA playoffs was spectacular. I mean, I loved every moment of it. Before the boys ask you about their Knicks questions, which they certainly will have, can you give a brief rundown of the NBA run that you had in the playoffs that you saw for them in 30 seconds, please, out of Syracuse University?

1:53:07Mike Tirico:30 seconds. I thought the West Finals were terrific, and I think those two teams took a lot out of each other. I think the Spurs were good enough to win the NBA championship. They just weren't experienced enough, and you saw that. I mean, what did they have leads in the last three minutes of every game and learning how to close. At each step, it gets harder to execute, do what you want, and close. And I think we saw that all the way through. In the finals, the New York experience got it done, and that's why they had a parade at City Hall today. And the Spurs time, I think, will come. Is that 28 seconds?

1:53:39Mike Tirico:No. It was close. He probably couldn't see the clock. When vacation stopped? When vacation ended? When did vacation end? Recently? Last week, when I got here on Sunday. Yeah, Monday, sorry. So they're saying Russ versus Russ type situation. that was a 33 second 30 second that's what they're saying oh no oh no like making a bogey i gotta bounce back hey pars are good though hey listen you were close i think you did end a

1:54:08Pat McAfee:sentence at that exact time that could have been out but you did continue nonetheless we're still live digitally and you talked about the spurs not being ready for the moment it felt like the other team certainly was go ahead d but yeah 53 years obviously it's been a long long time since the knicks have won the title i know you're a new york guy not sure if you are or grew up a knicks fan but where does this rank i mean as objectively as you can be amongst the drought-breaking titles you know i was or like cleveland lebron going back to cleveland when one of the red socks when i was in college i didn't know how big of a deal that was but being up in new england that was huge or Cubs.

1:54:40Where does this rank amongst those kind of drought-breaking titles?

1:54:44Mike Tirico:So I grew up a New Yorker, and the Knicks and the Rangers were really the teams that I rooted for growing up as a kid, and the Rangers snapped a 54-year drought when Mark Messier and those guys won the Cup in 1994. I even said during one of our Knicks games this year that the Knicks drought is one year shy of the Rangers drought, and to see the Knicks do it, I'm so happy for the New York fans. I saw a whole bunch of family in New York. It was great to see the city galvanized and to see the scenes of the parade today were really cool you know new york and basketball is different because a lot of new york city you don't have room for big state big fields and big practice areas you got the concrete and so many kids in new york grew up concrete rim fence playground and you go play basketball and that's why it's the city's game and from Rucker Park, Fourth Street, all that.

1:55:38Mike Tirico:Basketball just always connected in New York for some reason. Style of play, Knicks, all that. And that's why I think you saw the city turn out in these numbers. And no knock to the Nets, but in New York, you're Yankees or Mets. The percentages are up there. You're Jets or Giants. You're Knicks, and then there's the Nets. You're Rangers, and then there's the Islanders and the Devils. I'm not knocking them, it's just a fact. So this was almost all the New York basketball fans who were in. And that's why these scenes that you see around the city today, are as passionate and cool as they are right now.

1:56:08I think there's a lot of Nets fans saying, Knicks, that's what I've been doing. My dad, actually. My dad, my uncle, huge Knicks fan. I used to go cookouts at his house. I remember back in the day,

1:56:20Pat McAfee:we were watching Patrick Ewing do his thing, all the superstars. The big names are certainly being talked about, and they're also a part of the parade because I believe the Knicks family is one that remains pretty tight, unless you get out, and then you are out forever. But it does feel like it's a celebration of the Knicks as a whole. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Mike, as a New York Knicks fan growing up, where do you rank Jalen Brunson now? I think everybody but his dad thinks he's the greatest of all time when it comes to him, but what's kind of your take on that entire thing? Because, I mean, 45 points in a closeout game, he was incredible the entire finals.

1:56:53Mike Tirico:I always fight these arguments because, what, taking a trophy off of Patrick Ewing's fireplace and giving it to Brunson, you're now the best Knick ever? You know, the eras are so different. I'll say this, Frazier, Reed, those Knicks, they won two championships. So let's not, just because it didn't happen in the last 10 minutes and it happened before HD and 4K, let's not disrespect all of that. Hubie Brown, who I worked with, who's one of my favorite people of all time, when we used to say, hey, maybe this guy is now top 10 all time in the NBA, Hubie would say, okay, before you're taking off the list, which guy's coming off?

1:57:30Mike Tirico:And, you know, I think about what Frazier meant over the years and all that. Brunson is in the conversation with the best ever Knicks, not just because of what he did in the last game, but what he has done for the last couple of years. And I love the fact that guys like Isaiah Thomas and Steph Curry and now Jalen Brunson have given you over generations the reminder that the small guy has a place in the NBA. If he can do what he did on that play to Wemby right there, handle, understand, use his body, use his strength and know how to finish. and shoot and he becomes a threat all over the court like that play that's one of the great plays of the season right there and just put them over the top i love what he did and that's going to inspire small guys like steph did to have handle dribble shoot and toughness and leadership his smarts don't get talked about enough such a smart basketball player he's right there in the conversation i don't give that trophy out so whoever does i'll go with their argument that's

1:58:30Pat McAfee:Well, thank you for the NBC rights of the U.S. Open. Even though you can give those out, you can't give the Knicks greatest of all time title out. I respect that. Willis Reed, one-time finals MVP, one-time league MVP. I mean, you tell me Willis Reed deserves to be in a conversation. You know, I haven't seen him in one time. I haven't seen anybody mention to him. Now, on that note, you talk about the small guy being able to do stuff. There was some stat. It was like 60 % of Jalen's buckets were in the paint in one of these games. Again, Wemby, he was like 7 '4". I don't know if there's going to be a lot of small guys that have the ability to have a sixth sense of where everybody is, but his body control and his savviness just seems to be at a different level, probably because how his dad kind of forced him to be a basketball player, basically.

1:59:16Mike Tirico:You, AJ, and D-Butt, you guys know from your football time, sons of coaches are guys who over-indexed, right? Their knowledge, their ability. I'll never forget talking to Aaron Rodgers about this once, just talking about how that intersection of your physical ability and your knowledge of the game and how long you can ride that peak and how cool that is. And you see that with great players. Guys who've got an extra intellectual gear are guys who last, last a little bit longer. And Jalen Brunson now at the max of his athletic ability, maxing that as well, better than most. First one in, last one out.

1:59:52i was stef colby that was a pro that's that was yes it's quite an advantage plus you know like

2:00:00Pat McAfee:what you have to do to make it like i think that is a big piece of information that my kids will have that i certainly maybe did not know or understand it's like hey you're allowed to commit this much to something like i think that's a big deal or you have to commit this much to something just that game in general from being a multi-generational professional athlete is a huge piece of information we see it in football obviously all over the certain showed up as what a 90 year old man on the field literally as marvin as a rookie marvin harrison see his kid but like yeah there's generational stuff where if i was a coach in any sport your dad was what the best ever sick that's like everybody was talking about the brawny james stuff like look at the nepotism going on it's like uh just as a scout if this guy's from the lebron james family I'm going to give him a little bit of a boost I am actually going to give him a little bit of a boost Arch Manning is going to get a similar treatment because he's part of the Manning family I mean it's just a natural and I think stats would tell us it's an accurate thing too it certainly helps what's going on behind the scenes

2:01:02Mike Tirico:and in every walk of life when you go to somebody who's a dentist oh their dad was a dentist you've been having this conversation at your dinner table your whole life I feel better about you putting a needle in my mouth to give me novocaine right well certainly media too i mean this media world jesus it's like you also know who to talk to what to talk to what to specialize in what to ask where to go who should

2:01:25Pat McAfee:go like there's so much of that it's like no your network is your net worth and that's never been more uh evident and obviously professional sports is a meritocracy still so you have to work your ass off but boy knowing how to work your ass off is a nice piece of information that hopefully continues to open up and expand.

2:01:42Mike Tirico:Pat, I also respect the heck out of people who follow their mom or dad in that same industry because everybody's job takes them away from their kids for some period of time. And it's a high profile job, travel, dedication. If you're really good at it, you've probably put an extra mile or two into it. I respect so much the kids that saw their parents taken away from home time because of their excellence, dedication at the job. And the kids choose to go into that profession. That means when they came home, they showed them the good of what they do. And they appreciated the hard work that got their parent wherever they got.

2:02:22Mike Tirico:And they sign up for it willingly. And they know Justin Thomas, Justin Thomas's dad, PGA professional, lessons all the time. Of course, Justin learned as a kid, he got all these lessons from his dad. but he also saw the time and the hours it took to be great and on the range tuesday i'm standing with mike thomas we're watching justin and i was like you know what you've been doing this your whole life and that's why justin's here and he's a multiple major champion and he's one of the guys in this generation will be considered one of the best golfers because he saw how mike thomas lived his life and loved golf and what he got out of it and he's like i'm willing to follow in my dad's

2:02:58Pat McAfee:footsteps good for them it's a lot of pressure obviously having to follow in footsteps and obviously expectation and everything like that and uh that's a good that's a good note like because obviously i'm away a lot you know with uh with my kids now and there's a lot of work that has to be done and they see it all you know and there's there's a lot of those types of things and we are having a good time because it is sports so it's like uh choosing to do that and as soon as i get home you know just like the amount of interest that mckenzie has in it as well is awesome you know and like giving her game you feel like super special and i'm like who knows she might be on a microphone someday so it's like hey listen let's let me i'm gonna start you now i got her microphone i got her uh i got her all this other equipment i got her figuring out her levels i got headphones going on so she's naturally put headphones on it's like why not try to give it as much as possible but they got to go blaze their own trail and nobody yes they do has been able to blaze a trail like you to rico you're everywhere and you're great at it all and uh we appreciate the hell out of you making time i would like to brag about you a little bit send a text at like 1140 something that was like hey 130 hail mary tariko we got nothing over here if you could swing by we'd obviously be thankful you sent a thumbs back rather quickly we are very grateful for you doing that man good luck the rest of the way and you're the man love the way you guys do

2:04:12Mike Tirico:things anytime i'm around you got me have a great one guys enjoy happy father's day all dads hey hell yeah you too ladies and gentlemen mike tariko yeah mike

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2:05:29Yeah, the nepotism conversation that happens, it's like, sorry. you know like i do because i used to hate it as well fucker doesn't deserve that why does that

2:05:43Pat McAfee:person get that oh because they knew or whatever it's like for sports like i i would i would draft brawny ahead of other people that i had ranked the same as brawny and uh maybe even a little bit better than brawny just strictly because like this guy's known the nba his entire i see i remember seeing him he was on an nba court when he was like three years old yeah it's hard not and it It is, you know, obviously different in sports because you've got to earn it. Everybody's watching. Everybody's getting graded. You're playing against these greats. And it is another challenge, too, because you talk about all the good that comes with it, knowing the game, knowing what to do away from the game, how to deal with a loss, how to deal with a win.

2:06:19But, like, to go up and be like a Klay Thompson, like whose dad was like a really, really great player, and now you've got to go blaze your own trail. Dale Curry was a good player. Steph, you know, he was coming out of Davidson. Now he's going down as probably one of the greatest point guards ever. Peyton and Eli, you know, their pops and what he was. So it is a different part of it. But everybody's going to – obviously, Bronny, if your dad's one of the greatest players all the time, everything you do is going to be – Charlie Woods. So it's a lot that comes with it. Every shot you hit, every shot you miss, your dad wouldn't have missed that shot.

2:06:51Your dad would have made – your dad showed up early. He worked hard on everybody. So it is another side of it. But the positives, I think, outweigh the negatives for the most part. I think there's a lot of good positives. Now, granted, not every professional athlete's kid is a professional athlete for a reason. It's very, very hard, very, very difficult. It's a lot of commitment.

2:07:07Pat McAfee:But if they have that bug, the competitive juice, it does seem to help. And Jalen Brunson, the most recent story of that, just a vet on the court. Absolute dog. 45 in the closeout game? Crazy. Right here, too. Yeah. Right here. I put cowboy boots on. A little bit like this. Guy's a fucking point guard of the New York Knicks. Just one title. against Wemby, who's 7 '100"? Yeah. That makes no sense. That's science. That's somehow him understanding science better than everybody else. There's a lot of people that have a lot of negative stuff to say. There's a lot of people who have a lot of opinions.

2:07:42Pat McAfee:But when you prove them wrong, you don't have to say shit to them. Jalen Brunson.

2:07:45Darius Butler:There you go.

2:07:46Pat McAfee:Now, Jalen Brunson did appear on First Take the other day. Mm-hmm. I'm not going to say immediately a condescending comment, but on that note, Jalen Brunson, you've been doing everything right, brother. However the hell you want to go about doing your life, You do it. Seemingly the most humble guy, hardworking guy, perfect to be the face of New York. Judge, he's not doing terrible, though, huh? He's not playing. He's hurt right now, but the Yankees have a very good chance to win the World Series this year. Very good chance. We know why he's hurt, too. Yeah. You can say it. Can you tell us? You can say it.

2:08:21Do it. Fucking Mark DeRosa. What? Yeah. That guy killed everybody on Team USA. No. Not everybody. He killed Pete Crow Armstrong, just hit for the cycle. Yeah, he had a little bit of a slump. There's a reason he's hitting for the cycle, because of what he said to that lady. Now, where was the miss? Was he on the team? Nope. He's having the greatest season in the history of baseball. Max Terrain's been good, though. He has. Yeah, okay. He's on the team. Yeah, sure. Where's Roman Anthony? Where is he? What are you guys? Where's Judge? What happened to Roman Anthony? Roman Anthony's been hurt for eight months.

2:08:56Because of Team USA? I mean, it's kind of undisputable at this point. Kind of a worse bullpen pitcher as well. Yeah, Garrett Whitlock, he got screwed. How's Big Dumber doing? He was the story of the year last year. We don't have to do this again. We just did this. We did just do this. There's no point to go through them all again. Brunson's the face of New York, and it's awesome. He surpassed Judgy? I mean, right now, yeah. He won a championship. Right now? Until the fall. That might be forever. He's a great player. I mean, if you look at, you know, we're not going to go there because I like Jalen Brunson.

2:09:28I don't want to do this. Team's off. It's a city's game. Yeah, exactly. Scadaboo might be coming for the crown, though. I don't know. He better be good. I was going to say he's got about three years left, so he's going to have to, you know, he's going to have to what win? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm saying his brain is going to be mashed potatoes in about 18 months. It's going to be. Well, I like him too, but, you know. That's the thing about Scadaboo. that's not that is safe i think that is i think that whole thing that whole department is safe i see him everywhere it's everywhere else that we this part might be way too tough for the rest we will find that out i think that is going to be the scatterbooth story i'm excited to watch him he is every time i've seen him play in high school he broke 14 tackles there's only 11 guys on the field okay it was on a stadium crazy i don't know how that works then he gets to new york and in the nfl is he going to be able to do it does the same exactly he was really good he was really good now he got hurt doing backflips.

2:10:26Pat McAfee:What's that? You have something to say, Bruce? We just got Pat Ricard, the bodyguard, out in front of him now, too. So it's going to be an absolute sight to behold. So you got Ricard and Scadaboo in the same backfield? I don't know how long Brunson's going to be the king of New York, but we know the time is certainly now. There's a parade being held for him and the boys. How's the parade going? Have we got any more shots of the parade? What do we think the expected number's going to be? Just every human that's a citizen of New York City? Five million? Yeah. Sounds about right. They did that for London for the NFL.

2:10:57I talked about that before. They had me go speak at the pep rally in London or whatever. I looked at the stage. A modest crowd. Pretty good crowd. All right. We'll go back home. I open my phone as we're going back to the hotel, and they make the announcement. 775 ,000 people were at the thing. It's like, I didn't see them. I think you said I didn't see them. Oh, they were walking around. They were walking around.

2:11:15Pat McAfee:Just in the city of London? No, they were by the – well, the thing was right in the middle of the city. So how far are we? Got it. Everybody in London can't do it. Cool. That's what they're going to do for New York here, too. Oh, yeah. For sure. Even the people in the windows. As they should. Because those people are technically. Yeah, they're out of the parade. True. They are technically. Part of the parade route. Right? Because everybody in that building.

2:11:37Darius Butler:Could be looking outside.

2:11:38Pat McAfee:Could. And there could be two people in those apartments, too. Because there could be friends that have come in to the apartment. We're our champions. Yes, you are. Congratulations. Confetti. Congrats. Speaking of numbers, do you believe the World Cup numbers now? because i mean everywhere literally everywhere i go like around people like somebody's watching or talking about world cup celebrating it dressed like yeah saying one just anytime you put a billion number on something it is hard to take seriously but i do think that entire countries could be watching these games i mean nothing else on right now yeah he just like that is the marquee thing to watch every single night yeah i believe the numbers i'm hearing that from tariko parties entire countries are shut down.

2:12:22If the game's on, they close their jobs and they go to watch it. So it is kind of, yeah, maybe. And there's public watch parties, so everybody kind of has eyes.

2:12:30Pat McAfee:I can believe it, especially with how awesome this has been. Now, maybe it's because America hasn't had this much hype and we weren't hosting it and it wasn't immediately thrown into our faces. But it does feel like a perfect storm, if you will, of team really good, we're hosting it, sports kind of drought right now, College World Series. Congratulations, Oklahoma and North Carolina. They've made it to the finals. This Oklahoma team's a real deal. Their point there, a run differential better than North Carolina's run differential, but West Virginia did put up like six late against North Carolina, made a 12-7 game.

2:13:03Pat McAfee:Oklahoma, Georgia was the dogfight. I loved it. I think that guy, I don't know if it was that guy. I didn't know that side of the bracket that well. There was a guy for Oklahoma that hit a baseball directly off his kneecap in the middle of his at-bat, and he couldn't put weight on it, went down, actually. Then he got back up, stepped back in the batter's box. Like, I was so impressed just by that one situation. Now, he struck out. Promptly. Promptly struck out. In pain. The next pitch was a ball, and I think everybody on Georgia's team was like, hey, fucking idiot, this guy can't even stand up, just throw it in the strike zone, which did happen.

2:13:40Pat McAfee:But I appreciated the toughness. I've appreciated the vibes. I've appreciated watching the fans get behind their baseball teams. And we wouldn't have done this if West Virginia hadn't gone on a run. I mean, that's just 100 % a factual statement. But it's been an honor to kind of learn about college baseball. And I love that these two are doing battle because I think they both invest mightily in their baseball teams. So I like seeing teams that invest in it paying off, and hopefully others will do the same. Yeah, really cool moment actually in that Oklahoma-Georgia game. I don't know if you saw it, and I don't have the name.

2:14:07I wish I did. But I guess one brother on Georgia, other brother on Oklahoma. brother's last collegiate at bat for georgia guy hits a home run his brother's obviously playing on the infield like goes nuts basically for him because the game was out of reach at that point oklahoma was going to go on to go to the natty either way so like even that kind of story i feel like that is what college sports is all about yeah here it is actually so this this dude hits a home run obviously 11-3 game doesn't really affect colby branches the batter boom colby branch the branch brothers and there's his family and it's like he goes out on that no yeah and there there's his brother right there.

2:14:41Really, really cool. Yeah, that is... Hey, good for you, dude. Sucks for us, but good for you. Casual. Let's go. Let's not make a scene out of this thing. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

2:14:50Pat McAfee:Happy for you. But yeah, sports are beautiful, man. Can't help but stress that every single day. What else is beautiful is when a sportsbook platform says, you know what? Yeah. All right. Everybody can just go ahead and do a bet. America. If it doesn't win, we'll give you bonus bets back. Now remember, the money will not be redeposited back into your bank account on this bet if a lose or draw but you will get the opportunity to utilize that amount of money as a future bonus bet somewhere else so it's a guarantee that you'll win you get your money if they draw or lose you'll get the bonus bet back it only works in the three-way usa money line wagers you have to opt in and apply token okay there are things you have to do here let's not just blindly open the app download the app uh because we're 21 plus and we're in a sports gambling uh state and we're going to do this responsibly to add to the sports culture and not be assholes and try to become millionaires off the entire thing.

2:15:40Pat McAfee:We're not super geniuses. We have no idea what's going to happen, which is why sports are great. But we do know that this one, this one is an old school one. Love it. This is not a normal, modern 2026 promo at this stage of sports gambling. Okay?

2:15:56Darius Butler:No. The beginning stages of sports gambling, which we were in the middle of, there was a lot of these. There was a lot of, hey, yeah, we'll lose our fucking ass. Hopefully you'll do this. They've kind of settled that out now. This is for America.

2:16:09Pat McAfee:Shout out to DraftKings doing this, and hopefully teams and people will ride alongside of this and learn that this soccer team's for real. And over the next couple weeks, we got a real chance to watch some electricity in a sport that hasn't really captivated our country up until this point, but has a chance to do it now and going forward, which is good for society, good for sports as a whole. Shout out to DraftKings doing this, and shout out to you for joining us on a team ride on America tomorrow. Responsibly, of course. Let's go.

2:16:37Darius Butler:Not better than a good team ride. Nothing. This is a fucking country ride. Yeah. Amen. Come join us at DraftKings. What time? What time we kick off? 3 o 'clock. Tree. Beautiful. From Seattle. That should be loud. Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh, my God. Yeah. The USA. You, you, you. Drew Carey's out there. Photographer, for sure. I don't know, actually. Griffin Randy will probably be there. Definitely. I don't know about Drew. Yeah, I assume. I assume Big Randy. He's a big Kraken guy. He's like the number one photographer guy for the Kraken, I believe. Is that Marshawn? Or Sounders. Sounders, maybe? Whatever the case.

2:17:13We're favored. Let's win.

2:17:14Darius Butler:United run. We were plus 110 against Paraguay, so minus 170 is quite the – Do we know about Pulisic? He had his – Is he all right? Still practicing on his own. Yeah, but his best practice yesterday. Who knows?

2:17:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, but if it's not him, it's probably Gio Reyna, okay? Gio Reyna probably comes in for Pulisic. Not saying that we want that to happen. Just know that two very different styles of soccer. Yeah. Reyna is a little bit of a theatrics. We'd like to let the rest of the world know that Reyna doesn't represent our entire country, but we're happy we got him. We are happy we got him. What do you mean? He was one of the leaders. Theatrics. He'll be doing a lot of the... He'll flop around. He'll sell a call. He will be trying to get a call on it. He will embellish. But it'll help us. Maybe, if they call it.

2:18:01If not, it makes America look bad, but the thing that you can't take away from him, ridiculously talented.

2:18:08Pat McAfee:Filthy talent. Obviously has a nasty goal in the 97th minute last time. He was only on the pitch for I think 16 minutes. He was on the ground four times, scored a goal. I mean, he is all over it. So we like him. I think he would be the one that would go in if it wasn't Pulisic. Is that accurate, Gumby?

2:18:26Darius Butler:Berhalter was the one who got subbed on for Pulisic at half. So it could be Berhalter to start and then Reyna comes on late again.

2:18:32Pat McAfee:Listen, we like Reyna at the end because the flopping can certainly earn us something at the end. He does find contact, which is not allowed. Can't do that. So he's certainly going to emphasize that. But he's also got the... The flair. He's got the welcome to the show mindset, which is good for the end of a game. Are we still doing the Pentagon gimmick? Oh, yeah. That's our style. I draw, I draw. Come on, man. Yeah. Sogs, sogs, sogs. Yeah.

2:18:59Darius Butler:Every which way. So we'll be good. Could be Timmy way.

2:19:02Pat McAfee:Berhalter's a hell of a player.

2:19:03Darius Butler:He's very fast out there.

2:19:04Pat McAfee:Yeah, we got a lot of good players. I think that's the thing. If Pulisic is down, we're not dead.

2:19:09Darius Butler:Aronson also can do it.

2:19:10Pat McAfee:Technically. In theory, we're not dead. But yeah, what Chris Richards said is we're not running the Pentagon. We're running everybody running everywhere. They're amoeba.

2:19:18Darius Butler:They're running the amoeba. Yep, exactly. Got some exotics going. Yeah, they got a lot of exotics.

2:19:22Pat McAfee:Everybody's playing every position other than Ream and Chris Richards. It's positionless football.

2:19:26Darius Butler:I love it. It's the most important thing. We're playing a 2-8. Yeah, bingo. We're playing a 2-8, basically, with a goalie. And you guys all figure it out. And then Paraguay's like, that guy ain't smart. I can't figure it out. Who's playing where? They don't know. And Ponchettino's like, attack! That's what he does. He just yells that, and then we go. And then he goes to the refs. A lot of this. You like that? He had great Air Forces on. I loved it. Great suit. It's a proper gaffer. He is a proper gaffer.

2:19:58Pat McAfee:Truly, our first. Proper gaffer. Nigel Sealy said he'd take him on England. It's like, you don't get him. Okay, nobody. Well, he said before they had Tommy Tuchel.

2:20:07Darius Butler:Tommy Tuchel's halftime speech sent the boys into a craze to start that second half. Fuck Tommy Tuchel. I don't like Tommy Tuchel. I don't like it, Gumps. Yeah, he's right here on the America's Game 2 guarantee. I'm sorry for supporting you guys. I apologize for that. Tommy Tuchel fucking sucks. Excite. It's punch or die. Gumps is like two years away from being a citizen. So, yeah, he's going to support. Well, we hope. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're interesting together. We're back tomorrow. Hell yeah. Tomorrow's game day. You're right. It's match day.

2:20:40Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi. You got to kick one in. No, no, no. We can't do that before tomorrow.

2:20:44Darius Butler:Yeah, we can't do that before tomorrow. TNT. Oi, oi, oi. Yeah, there you go. Rory just made an eagle to take the lead. Oh, that's not the World Cup. It was on the shoulder pads over there. Where's the official World Cup boom? Gap and left field. What the fuck are you laughing about? How are you feeling, Ty? Good now. I'm going to take a huge shite here in probably about 15 minutes or so. I'm feeling pretty good. Didn't you say you were going to take a huge shite in AJ's B-Box that they sent? That's the plan. Easy. It's a hawk hive. Hawk hive. Sorry. Sick. How much is it for? $50 ,000. Okay. That's how much.

2:21:22$50 ,000 giveaway. Yeah. I'm going glass. We're doing it every day for the entirety of the World Cup that we were live during. Which I don't. There's going to be a lot.

2:21:31Darius Butler:Hey, that's fine. Do yourself a favor. Put this thing through the roof. We're celebrating soccer. Into the net. We have prediction markers. We're going to make it ever. I got it. Good boy. Good times. Good line. That was the trajectory.

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