In short
Sports overreaction Monday covering (1) Team USA’s World Cup group-stage run and what it means for the knockout stage, (2) a U.S. Open golf recap focused on Wyndham Clark’s wire-to-wire win and crowd hostility, and (3) NBA trade/draft rumors centered on Giannis Antetokounmpo, plus coaching news (Dusty May to the Mavericks). The show also discusses soccer betting angles and previews upcoming World Cup matches.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Michael Grella: CBS Sports Galavzo international soccer star/pundit; previously involved with U.S. soccer coverage and youth soccer culture.
- Shams Charania: ESPN senior NBA insider; reports on league transactions and team decision-making.
Key claims
- USA’s dog-like pressing is the biggest positive from the Australia win, but the second half vs Australia was “nowhere near good enough,” so knockout games require better passing, finishing, and game management.
- Because the U.S. already qualified, Thursday’s match may be used to rest players with yellow cards; suspensions reset at elimination rounds.
- France and Spain are Grella’s top World Cup winners; Argentina is the biggest surprise due to Messi’s sharpness and the team’s work-rate around him.
- Wyndham Clark’s U.S. Open win wasn’t just luck: he was elite scrambling and especially dominant from 20–25 feet (about 50% vs tour 12%).
- Giannis trade resolution is expected before the NBA draft; only Heat and Celtics have Giannis’s long-term commitment, giving Milwaukee leverage.
Notable examples
- USA’s 2-0 win vs Australia to reach elimination rounds for first time since 1930.
- Golf: hole 16 described as a pivotal recovery/punch-out leading to a two-stroke advantage; crowd booing and “Happy Gilmore” style heckling; Clark’s calm response afterward.
- NBA: Celtics offer centered on Jalen Brown; Heat offer includes multiple controllable rookie-scale players plus draft capital (Heat pick #13; Bucks #10; Boston #27 mentioned). Dusty May leaving Michigan for Dallas.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTeam USA's World Cup Victory
0:45 to 3:35
Discussion on Team USA's performance in the World Cup and upcoming matches.
“and the kits that are out there on the field, dazzling and devastating other countries as it might be our time to take over the world's game.”
Analysis of Messi's Impact
3:35 to 4:30
Analysis of Messi's early career and his significance in soccer.
“He's also a CONCAPA OG member of a team that we had in the soccer tournament down there in Cary, North Carolina.”
Wyndham Clark's U.S. Open Win
4:30 to 5:50
Discussion on Wyndham Clark's performance at the U.S. Open and crowd dynamics.
“Remember early, he just got so lucky after a delay happened that there was no wind on the course when he was playing, so he took advantage of it, goes six under.”
Crowd Reactions at the U.S. Open
5:50 to 8:00
Exploration of crowd reactions to Wyndham Clark during the tournament.
“But Wyndham Clark having people scream, get in the sand, right after he drives it.”
Wyndham Clark's Journey
8:00 to 10:00
Discussion on Wyndham Clark's emotional journey and controversies.
“with only one stroke with Sam Burns who's out there ready.”
Michael Grella Joins the Show
10:00 to 12:20
Introduction of soccer star Michael Grella and his thoughts on the U.S. victory.
“We did not know Tone was going to feel that way.”
Grella's Insight on U.S. Soccer
12:20 to 14:00
Michael Grella shares insights on the U.S. Men's National Team and their performance.
“Mark Schlaubel will join us at the end of the hour.”
USA's World Cup Journey and Its Impact
14:00 to 16:28
Discuss the USA's historic performance in the World Cup and its implications for soccer in America.
“But there's so many great storylines still.”
Navigating Challenges and Opportunities
16:28 to 19:05
Analyze the challenges facing the US team and the potential for success in the tournament.
“What they're going to have to do in the knockout stage is play not like they played in the second half against Australia.”
Favorites and Dark Horses in the Tournament
19:05 to 23:01
Identify leading contenders for the World Cup and discuss the surprise potential of various teams.
“But who's to say that they can't put together two or three fantastic games on home soil and get the job done?”
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Messi's Influence and Performance
23:01 to 25:59
Explore Lionel Messi's ongoing impact on his team and the game, including his unique skills.
“You look through the team and you find maybe one or two good players with Messi, but they're all willing to work for him.”
The Future of Soccer in America
25:59 to 28:00
Discuss the potential growth of soccer in the US and how current events may influence its popularity.
“All right, Grello, we appreciate you, man.”
Celebration of the USA Team in Sports
28:00 to 29:20
Discussing the excitement around the USA sports team's performance and its impact.
“I think it's at like 99.5 % capacity through 36 games.”
Soccer Trends and Betting Insights
29:20 to 30:30
Analyzing recent soccer games, betting odds, and player performance.
“You always have something like the golf obviously picked up for a couple of the games at RAS.”
Giannis Trade Speculations
32:20 to 36:10
Exploring the potential trade of Giannis and its implications for the NBA.
“And we're not thinking we're becoming bazillionaires because of it.”
Jalen Brown's Future with the Celtics
36:10 to 42:00
Discussing the impact of trade rumors on Jalen Brown and the Celtics' strategy.
“This deal, there's all the efforts right now, Pat, that are being put forth by all the parties, all the teams involved.”
Coaching Changes and NBA Rumors
42:00 to 43:36
Discussing Dusty May's coaching career and potential NBA moves.
“I think a lot of people are projecting Dusty May to be a fairly elite coach at the next level.”
Giannis Trade Speculation
43:36 to 45:55
Exploring potential trades involving Giannis and other NBA players.
“Yeah, Shams, you talked about Jalen Brown and Giannis.”
Draft Predictions and Generational Talent
45:55 to 47:44
Analyzing top prospects and potential first overall picks in the draft.
“That's the whole conversation around him.”
U.S. Open Recap with Mark Schlabach
47:44 to 51:50
Mark Schlabach shares insights on the U.S. Open and Wyndham Clark's victory.
“No, they moved the tables from the lunchroom into the show.”
Wyndham Clark's Journey and Controversies
51:50 to 56:00
Discussing the challenges and controversies surrounding Wyndham Clark.
“It was very obvious that, even watching at home, very obvious nobody wanted him to win.”
College Football Predictions
56:00 to 57:03
Discussion on college football teams and rankings leading up to the season.
“I know Oklahoma threw the freshman stud yesterday, and he got rattled.”
College Football Predictions
57:07 to 57:31
Discussion on college football teams and rankings leading up to the season.
“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”
Sports Highlights and World Events
57:31 to 1:03:01
Recap of sports events including golf, soccer, and baseball, plus thoughts on upcoming matches.
“Storm has zero sugar and 200 milligrams of caffeine, so you can turn that workout up a notch.”
Julius Jones Jr.'s College Commitment
1:03:01 to 1:10:01
Live commitment of Julius Jones Jr. to Notre Dame and the impact on his family.
“Today might be the biggest we've had to date.”
Celebrating the Jones Family
1:10:01 to 1:10:40
A heartfelt discussion about the accomplishments of the Jones family and their upcoming commitments.
“They work their ass off and get good grades and stay out of trouble as much as you can down here itself, Florida Game is on the rise.”
Julius Jones Jr.'s Potential
1:10:41 to 1:12:20
An analysis of Julius Jones Jr.'s skills and family background in football.
“Andre Jones, 2028 class safety, I think, would be the number one safety, whatever it is, if you were to do that.”
Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame's Recruitment
1:12:21 to 1:14:19
Discussion on Coach Marcus Freeman's impact and strategies for recruiting talent to Notre Dame.
“And it's never a bad thing to go out there and pluck people from South Florida.”
J.J. Watt's New Venture
1:14:20 to 1:16:48
J.J. Watt shares insights about joining the ownership team of a peanut butter and jelly brand.
J.J. Watt's Offseason Life
1:16:49 to 1:19:00
J.J. Watt reflects on his offseason, family life, and experiences with other athletes.
“This guy's walking incline treadmills over there in the Hawk House.”
NFL Referee Accountability
1:19:01 to 1:20:58
A conversation about new accountability measures for NFL referees and their implications.
“Obviously, it will be happening this football season.”
Discussion on Soccer and Messi's Performance
1:20:59 to 1:24:01
A lively discussion about soccer, Messi's penalty misses, and hypothetical penalty scenarios.
“We're working through it right now, going through the managerial process.”
World Cup Penalty Analysis
1:24:01 to 1:25:14
Discussing the struggles of a player in penalty situations during the World Cup.
“He has taken seven World Cup penalties in his career.”
AJ Hawk's Memorable Game Experience
1:25:15 to 1:26:25
AJ Hawk shares an unforgettable moment during a pivotal NFL game involving replacement refs.
“Pumped about relegation for the refs if they're ass going down to the UFL.”
The Impact of NFL Trades
1:26:26 to 1:27:35
Exploring the ramifications of notable trades in the NFL, focusing on Miles Garrett's move.
“And so it was tough to stay classy in that moment.”
Aaron Donald's Potential Comeback
1:27:36 to 1:29:25
Discussing Aaron Donald's fitness and the possibility of his return to the NFL.
“Are they going to trade in another wide receiver?”
The Super Bowl and Legacy Considerations
1:29:26 to 1:31:01
Considering the implications of a potential Aaron Donald comeback in the context of Super Bowl aspirations.
“of what type of shape you need to be in to be able to play.”
Steelers Facility Vibes
1:31:02 to 1:32:37
Insight into the atmosphere at the Steelers' facility and the impact of coaching changes.
“I won, I think I did everything that needs to be done.”
Jeffrey Simmons' Contract and Importance
1:32:38 to 1:35:00
Analyzing Jeffrey Simmons' significance to the Titans and his recent contract extension.
“I think you always have to remember the vibes are always good in the offseason.”
Messi's Performance and Legacy
1:35:01 to 1:38:00
Discussion about Messi's recent achievements and his impact on the game of soccer.
“Not, I mean, because he's that good, because he is a culture setter, a leader, the way that he plays the game, the way that he opens things up for other guys on the defense because of the attention that he requires.”
Planning the 17th Annual Trip
1:38:00 to 1:40:47
Discussion about the annual trip and experiences in New York.
“Have you set any locales for the 17th annual?”
Shout Out to Linda Cohn
1:40:47 to 1:40:58
Hosts pay tribute to Linda Cohn upon her retirement.
“That's because you're getting emotional about Linda Cohn.”
Interview with Steve Sabins, WVU Head Baseball Coach
1:40:58 to 1:46:01
Steve Sabins discusses the success of the West Virginia baseball team.
Analyzing the College World Series Matchup
1:46:01 to 1:51:23
Detailed analysis of the upcoming championship game between UNC and Oklahoma.
“Yeah, Coach, anytime a team goes on a run like this, I think you always hear, like, oh, they've arrived, and then we expect them to kind of be around.”
Analyzing the College World Series Matchup
1:52:05 to 1:52:40
Detailed analysis of the upcoming championship game between UNC and Oklahoma.
“Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free.”
World Series of Baseball Experience
1:52:51 to 1:54:05
Discussion about the unique experience of the World Series of Baseball.
“You waste a good promo right there, I think.”
Impactful Speeches in History
1:54:06 to 1:55:46
Exploration of memorable speeches and their emotional impact.
“They'll talk about the greatest speeches that have ever been done.”
Movies and Their Themes
1:55:47 to 1:57:56
Discussion on recent movies, including themes of war and personal performances.
“That's like, yeah, those guys are hanging on everywhere.”
The Importance of Experience
1:57:57 to 2:00:22
Conversation on the value of shared experiences and community events.
“said they were super corny and fucking because they started believing that spielberg was doing the duty of the government to basically desensitize oh yeah i i thought all of that i'm sorry i thought all of that.”
Brady Kachuk's Trade and Its Impact
2:00:23 to 2:02:32
Analysis of Brady Kachuk's trade to the Florida Panthers and its significance.
“and the garbage AI, you're not really sure what's right or what's wrong.”
Dusty May's Move to the NBA
2:02:33 to 2:06:00
Discussion about Dusty May leaving Michigan for an NBA coaching opportunity.
“But I didn't see how Ottawa was, to be honest.”
Dusty May's Career Move
2:06:00 to 2:08:00
Discussion on Dusty May's transition from college coaching to the NBA.
“We've kind of seen the way things have been with the management and the ownership in Dallas.”
Banana Ball Highlights
2:08:00 to 2:10:00
Recap of the entertaining events and antics at the Banana Ball game.
“Did you guys see Banana Ball this weekend?”
Home Run Derby Format Changes
2:10:00 to 2:11:04
Exploration of new rules for the Home Run Derby and potential impacts.
“But I do appreciate the fact that Steve-O outred.”
Concerns for Home Run Derby
2:11:04 to 2:13:20
Discussion on the implications and concerns regarding the new Home Run Derby format.
“So we had to see the beginning of hits, not the tail end of hits, when what we want to see is a 495-foot Big Dong in Big Dong City, Philadelphia.”
Celebrating the Caniacs
2:13:20 to 2:16:29
Celebration of the Carolina Hurricanes' recent championship and the city of Raleigh's support.
“So it takes the pressure off the pitcher, which I'm happy about.”
Serena Williams' Return
2:16:29 to 2:19:49
Discussion on Serena Williams returning to Wimbledon and her potential impact.
“Yeah, you don't get that shredded without absolutely punishing yourself.”
The Emu War: An Australian Fable
2:20:01 to 2:22:08
Learn about the bizarre historical conflict between Australians and emus.
“With that being said, saw a lot of Australians whining about a lot of things.”
World Cup Kick Challenge
2:22:09 to 2:25:04
Discover the ongoing $50,000 football kick challenge during the World Cup.
“So the Australians sent out all the Australians to go kill the emus, and the emus won?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the DraftKings Thunderdome. On this massive overreaction Monday June 22nd 2026 this sports program begins now. Sports are the absolute greatest thing on earth and we can't thank you all enough for allowing us to be a tiny part of it as we get a chance to chit chat about the greatest thing that's ever existed which is sports and competition. This past weekend delivered in a huge way. Team USA went ahead and beat the hell out of Australia 2-0. We go ahead and punch our ticket to the elimination rounds. First time since 1930. Team USA wins back-to-back games in the World Cup.
0:40Pat McAfee:Ponchettino, the head coach, is doing historic things, as are the boys that are donning the jerseys and the kits that are out there on the field, dazzling and devastating other countries as it might be our time to take over the world's game. Didn't love the second half against Australia. Sure. Hang on. They were playing Turkey on Thursday. Okay, this game does not matter. Okay, we've already punched our ticket. Now, can getting the flow and getting more chemistry certainly help? Definitely. But all our guys with yellow cards, we're going to go ahead and keep them out of that game, pick up another one, get suspended for another game, and then it's reset basically at the elimination round.
1:11Pat McAfee:So anybody that has a yellow card, probably not going to see on Thursday, don't have to do that. Got 26 guys on the team, though. A lot of depth, a lot of talent. Hopefully the culture's already taken over, and maybe we get a chance to see the rest of this roster that could go on a long run because injuries are going to happen. That's the World Cup. who's in the back Thursday. We find out if the team is who we were against Paraguay or are we the team that we were in the second half of Australia or will we not know at all because we don't know any of the players that are going to be playing because it's going to be a whole different crew because this game doesn't matter anymore.
1:37Pat McAfee:Sure. It's kind of a gift and a curse to punch your ticket early.
1:40Mark Schlabach:Yeah.
1:40Pat McAfee:You know, because Spain, for instance, they have that draw 0-0 first game and, you know, Lamal, Lamal, Lamal. He only plays like 10 minutes or whatever the case is. And then he plays the first half, has a goal. This kid becomes the youngest player in the history or whatever to score a goal in the World Cup. He's so many days younger than Leo Messi that I've been watching highlights of this Messi guy now since he's come into the forefront in the entire world stage conversation over the last couple weeks. Not that he wasn't before. We all understand that he was the guy for a long, long time. But I'm seeing a lot of highlights of him as a teenager that I had never seen before.
2:14Pat McAfee:I'm seeing him as a little kid. And I couldn't even imagine accidentally showing up at a soccer field and this fucking kid was there. Did you see it? He never stopped. His little legs just went like this. They were so fast. The ball never left his foot. And then, like, his vision. And then Pep, what's his name, Pep, his coach, Gumpy? Pep Guardiola. Boom. Greatest gaffer in history, they call him? Legend. Okay. Him breaking down film of this messy guy going, he's not just walking to preserve energy because he's tired. He's calculating. He's like a shark just kind of reading everything. He knows where the ball is going to go.
2:45Pat McAfee:He knows who your weakest player is. He knows what your strategy is. And then as soon as he gets the ball, he executes everything that he's looking to do. So not only is he preserving energy while he's walking around, he's also impossible not to look at. When everybody else is just kind of running, and then you've got one guy just kind of surveying the entire thing as if he is the director of everything happening on the field. And then as soon as he gets the ball, and the ball gets to his foot whenever it's within 10 feet of him, basically, because it's just like right to his left foot. And then he's just fucking magic, this guy.
3:14Pat McAfee:And it is spectacular. He's not the only one, obviously. There's been a lot of great plays. There's been a lot of great soccer. But as long as this guy is on your television you're going to want to watch, he plays at 1 o 'clock next time. Oh, what the hell? Okay, so everybody's going to have to get into it. I think World Cup Fever is certainly happening. We'll continue to dive into World Cup Fever as Grello will join us in about six minutes. If you do recall, Michael Grello works for CBS Sports Galazzo. He's also a CONCAPA OG member of a team that we had in the soccer tournament down there in Cary, North Carolina.
3:43Pat McAfee:He basically called out the entire continent in Australia. And the entire continent in Australia called his ass out too. He needed America to win in a big way. They certainly did that. Excited to see where he thinks this entire tournament is going. Obviously, this past weekend, we got a new major winner in golf. Obviously, College World Series baseball happening tonight. Could be for the entire title. I mean, we got football happening in a huge way. Drama, storylines, big deals happening. It's a never-ending supply of awesome, this sports world. It's not just me, obviously, chit-chatting about it.
4:11Pat McAfee:The Toxative was here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, when you talk about weekend television, especially with us diving into the World Cup. Having the PGA, having the U.S. Open, having a major with all the big names competing, certainly wonderful watch, but the storyline of Wyndham Clark, wire to wire, bell to bell. Remember early, he just got so lucky after a delay happened that there was no wind on the course when he was playing, so he took advantage of it, goes six under. Everybody's pointing their finger. That guy got lucky because of the weather. That guy got lucky because of the weather.
4:41Pat McAfee:We'll see what he does the rest of the way. This guy went to bed and woke up with the lead in the major. One that he has won before in 2023. He won the U.S. Open. In his first round in 2023, guess what he shot? What was that? 64. Wow. In his first round in 2026 when he won the U.S. Open, guess what he shot? No way. 64. Gee. Only got to ever have two rounds under 65 at the same major. Okay? And that obviously comes in his two U.S. Open wins. But whenever you start that low, that means you've got to live with this. This is your life. And not only do you have to sleep with it, not only do you have to think about it every single moment.
5:12Pat McAfee:At night when you wake up to go to the bathroom, You have to lay back down and somehow quiet your mind from being in the lead at a major once again, especially in which the climate of his major is. Ty Schmidt, that guy was walking down, walking down that fairway or walking down the course. Not everybody, but there was certainly a vocal bunch that were not on his side. First time I'd seen that in a long time. Obviously, he's an American golfer. This is happening in America. There has been some intercontinental conflict at some of these golf events. I think the Ryder Cup calls for it. I think some other things potentially call for it.
5:45Pat McAfee:Rory McIlroy is certainly no stranger to a give and take. Caught a fatso a fatso, which I actually appreciated and liked. But Wyndham Clark having people scream, get in the sand, right after he drives it. It was Happy Gilmore. You will not make this putt, you jackass level type stuff. And then there were some crowds that were cheering for him. He was paired with Scotty Scheffler. Everybody wanted Scotty to be on the prowl on Sunday. Obviously, Tom Kim makes a little run. Sam Burns makes a run at this thing. Scotty had a chance. all the way up until the end, we think, Scotty might birdie, birdie, birdie this thing, right back into this entire thing.
6:16Pat McAfee:But everybody was pulling for Scotty to go and run. He never really did. But Wyndham had to hold this shit for a long time, and he had a crowd against him. First time I'd seen that in a long time, and then the way he handled it, I thought was pretty beautiful. What a perfect kind of way to maybe get back in good graces, but also a perfect depiction of how some golf people feel about Wyndham Clark that I don't think I fully understood.
6:36Mark Schlabach:Yeah, I mean, I knew that people weren't the biggest fans, But like you said, I honestly can't remember a tournament where on American soil, like American fans were openly cheering against the guy. You know, like I feel that just doesn't happen very often. And a lot of people talk about how emotional he is. And maybe that's part of the reason that people don't like him. But all of that just made it so much more impressive, especially on a course like Shinnecock where the margin of error is just so small. Like, you know, not only do you have to stick it in close on these and you have, you know, Sam Burns and Scotty Scheffler nipping at your heels and it's like, hey, I have to play perfect already.
7:14Mark Schlabach:But then every little mistake you make gets magnified. They're celebrating. Exactly. It's crazy. And it got to the point there where he only had, you know, his lead was massive going into Sunday and then it kind of disappeared very quickly. And you could see that that's where everyone kind of jumped in. It's like, OK, perfect. Here's the time where Wyndham's going to choke. He's going to collapse. And he just never did.
7:34Pat McAfee:Never did. Continue to do it. Long putts falling. I mean, on the 18th hole, he had to lag putt that thing. His hands had to be shaken. Oh, yeah. Obviously, there was a gallery of people that have all now come to there. So every person that has yelled at him throughout the golf course, whether it was four people, five people, ten people, 20 people, they are all now around this green because you're the last group in there. So they have all kind of congregated that area. You leave meat on that bone, on that putt, on 18, with only one stroke with Sam Burns who's out there ready. You are walking to your ball, and they are, oh!
8:07Pat McAfee:And he's just missed the four-footer. Yeah, they're making you think about that. It was him taking on the entire environment, mentally, obviously sleeping on it, physically having to battle against Shinnecock, which was very difficult. Obviously, he didn't get massive wins on day one, so that certainly helped. But throughout the weekend, he did what everybody else did, just better. It was unbelievable to watch him battle. But then also for the crowd to be yelling at him, I loved the way he answered. That's dog shit. And then his answer afterwards, I think a lot of people were like, Like, all right, he kind of gets it at least.
8:35Mark Schlabach:Yeah, New York didn't really like me. I love you guys. But, you know, I get it.
8:47Pat McAfee:You know, some of it's self-deserved. I did some unfortunate things last year that I really regret. And, you know, I've been sorry multiple times. And I'm still sorry. So hopefully I can win you guys over eventually. But I get it. They root for Scottie. Grand Slam has only happened a few times. So he's going to get it. I mean, he's the best player in the world. But today is my day. Yeah, it was your day. It was your weekend, pal, over there in Shinnecock. And I appreciate him acknowledging it. I've earned it, obviously. And he mentioned going back to Oakmont last year at the U.S. Open where he destroyed a locker.
9:17Pat McAfee:Yeah. He destroyed a locker. And then he didn't apologize immediately. It took him a little bit to apologize. And the people that were booing him out there at the U.S. Open, I thought we had been past this. But then we had Wyndham Clark on last week. Shout out. Not a curse. No. Yeah. Got a major. Great call. Okay, got a major. I hope people remember that whenever somebody comes on our show and something not great happens. I hope we remember Wyndham Clark. But Tone, one half of the hammer, died. Cowboys AP. Tone was the last question. He goes, I used to caddy at Oakmont. Those same grounds you decided to spit and destroy upon and swing your club and break a lock.
9:54Pat McAfee:My back was broken building that place. We take a lot of pride in Oakmont around there. And what you did was not great. We did not know Tone was going to feel that way. No. Because we had never heard Tone talk about it one time before that.
10:06Mark Schlabach:No, not him being upset about it. No, definitely not.
10:08Pat McAfee:Definitely him looping it over. Oh, yeah, yeah.
10:10Mark Schlabach:I heard those stories many a time.
10:11Pat McAfee:Many a time. Oh, so much fun, boys. The sun just comes over. He's like, go ahead and go over to the crest. And you see, what are those, the sands called? The church pews? Church pews. Oh, it's so much fun. You know, exactly. Like, he's bragged about it many times. But we never really heard him get personally offended by the way somebody acted. And I didn't know that was the case until you asked him a question. and he did understand that there was a segment of people that feel that way against him. And he heard from him this weekend. I guess that can happen in golf more so than maybe any other sport.
10:36Yeah, you can't because it's so quiet on the course until it's not and you can basically hear everything. We saw that with Rory like you said. And, yeah, to be honest, I knew that was a major – not a major storyline coming into this week, but I knew it would get brought up again coming into this week what he did last year at Oakmont. But I did not know to the extent of how people felt about Wyndham. But, I mean, like you said, he played unbelievable. I thought the biggest thing of the entire tournament was 16. Like, he's up by one stroke. He puts it into the native area. I believe it, I don't know if it was Noda Begay or somebody was on the call and said, this is a horrendous lie.
11:09So you're sitting there, you're thinking like, bogey at best. And he's sitting there terrible. An incredible punch out. Like, the grass caught his club on the way back. He comes all the way through, gets it over the bunker, gets it into position A, basically. He's in a better spot than Scotty is, and Scotty pounded it off the tee. and then he makes this birdie to put it up two. Instead of where you thought it might be a tie ballgame at this point, he goes up two strokes. And this was basically the story of the tournament for him. He was, from 20 to 25 feet, 50 % on the tournament. The tour average from 20 to 25 feet is 12%.
11:43So he was 50 % on those putts this week. He was unbelievable scrambling. He was number one on strokes gained around the green. That was the story of the entire tournament. 16 was unbelievable.
11:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, he was fun to watch with a flat stick. They say he's got a heavy one, too. I guess he's got a heavy bike. I guess he's got a heavy bike is the way he goes about it. And if you think the way they were describing Shinnecock, very fast, very firm. Yeah. So that means it's his most pure, right? Yeah, I mean, you could argue that. It's most pure. So maybe that is what benefited Wyndham, especially for the long ones. There's no obscure drops. But Scotty Sheffield, I mean, was this far away from winning that tournament. So, like three times. There was like four times where that potentially happened, where he got Shinnecock.
12:19Pat McAfee:We'll continue to talk about the U.S. Open. Mark Schlaubel will join us at the end of the hour. Joining us now is a man who found himself in a little bit of a conflict with a continent of Australia. Ladies and gentlemen, in front of the program, international soccer star and pundit from CBS Sports Galazzo, Paisano Michael Grella. Hey, Grella. What's up, boys? Thanks for having me. Hey, how was the weekend, man? Did you take a trip to the sun?
12:44Pat McAfee:It was a good weekend. We were out and about. I understand. Me, too. I did the same thing. Grella, tell me about it. The U.S. gets a huge win, not only for our country, not only for soccer, but certainly for you while you're watching that game what were your thoughts and what did you learn about this team maybe after game two that we didn't know after game one well I watched the first five minutes and I gotta tell you you know obviously I had a lot of I had a lot at stake in the game and and we gave the ball away when we were in possession we gave the ball away the three center backs and they went on on a breakaway well the one v one with the goalkeeper and it almost actually went through the goalkeeper's legs and I was thinking oh shit here we go yeah and um Because you know how sports work.
13:20But then I watched the next 15 minutes and I was like, okay, I'm very impressed with the way they play, the way they press the ball, the pressure of the ball. They're like dogs out of possession. I mean, there is no team in the tournament that hunts the football like the U.S. men's national team does. So that's a super positive thing. Now, realistically, that second half is nowhere near good enough. So they're going to have to find ways to manage games better, be a little bit sharper with the passing, put their chances away. Balligan had the breakaway in the second half. I was thinking, all right, here we go, 3-0, maybe it's going to be 4.
13:52Ended up being a pretty shaky 2-0 in the end. So all respect, obviously, to Australia, aside from all the antics that went on all week. And they got a big game coming up against Paraguay now coming up. But there's so many great storylines still.
14:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, so many great storylines, of course. United States of America punching their ticket to the elimination rounds after two games, winning back-to-back World Cup games for the first time since 1930. Pochettino seemingly instilling a dog mentality in the entire culture. And you and I chatted about this this morning. It's like I was 87, so what is that, 94, 96 era time, whenever that all – Seven. Seven, eight years old, whenever that was all happening. I remember going to an Argentina game down there in Washington, D.C. First time I learned a lot about Jokely's, Fokely's, fake Oakly's. You know, because there was a group of us from Beedling Soccer, I think, that went down there to watch them play, and USA played.
14:41Pat McAfee:And I remember Colby Jones, and obviously Alexi Law is still on TV because I think he's having the best time he's ever had on television right now. I don't know, man. It seems like there's a lot of heat out there. He loves being the heel. He does love it, doesn't he? How about Thierry with the heel drag thing to start that entire video? That was awesome. With Zlatan. I mean, that was filthy. Yeah, that was absolutely filthy, obviously. Good ball tricks. But what just happened to youth soccer, I remember, because I was a part of it. Cruella was a part of it. Many others were a part of it. It boosted the sport in a huge way.
15:09Pat McAfee:Everybody signed up to play. Everybody kind of got into it. It's an easy sport to get into. All you need is a ball and a wall. Literally, that's all you need. What do you think this is all doing for American soccer? And what do we need to do in the elimination round, Scrella? Because I assume Thursday we're playing a bunch of guys, like, reserves. I assume a bunch of reserves on Thursday. And then once we get an elimination round, we have to win a couple? Like, what do you think has to happen here for the good of the sport as a whole here in America? In this format, in the new format, first of all, there's a lot of leeway and there's a lot of management.
15:37So you've got to rotate guys and you've got to be smart with it. The U.S., very fortunate. First time since 1930 they won back-to-back games in the World Cup. are able now to rest in the next match. I think that's important. Now to the second part is like, you know, what's the World Cup do, especially on home soil, especially if you're successful, what to do for young kids now growing up? Like we once were, Pat, trying to get on this team ultimately. It does everything, man. It's infectious. Kids are watching it. Kids are watching goals. They're watching different countries. You see the sort of cross collabs of all different cultures coming together.
16:11It's the most unique tournament in the world with that. with that. Like the world comes together. They put all the differences, all the garbage that doesn't really matter aside, and they just celebrate football. They celebrate the country. I think so far it's been special. And I think the tournament is going to just keep ramping up, get exponentially better as the knockout stages come. What they're going to have to do in the knockout stage is play not like they played in the second half against Australia. They're going to have to pay more attention to detail. They're going to have to bring the same amount of energy and they're going to have to be able to manage moments and manage games a little bit better.
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16:44If they get Pulisic back, I think he makes them look a little bit different. He gives them that sort of extra level. So that's going to be important for them. But again, they got to believe in what they can do. And like many people are saying, I know Zlopton said it. I know the manager said it. Why not? Like, why not? As things stand right now in the bracket, they actually have a pretty favorable route to the semifinal. Why not? Can they put together a string of games and then come up against the world's powers like France, Spain, England, Argentina? and they may have to win two games to win it.
17:15Can that happen? And then the growth would be unbelievable in this country as we've already seen with what they've done.
17:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, absolutely. And I get excited about it as well. We'll certainly ask about Spain and France here in a matter of moments. Last question about USA though, because of what you just said, why not? Why not? That's what everybody's believing. Ty, is a question for you.
17:32Mark Schlabach:Yeah, Gorilla, there's been a clip going around with Tim Howard and Landon Donovan on their podcast and it was after the win. But Tim Howard essentially said like unequivocally, there is no way U.S. can win this tournament. They just can't. He said they'll have to play four of their best games that they've ever played consecutively, and it's just not going to happen. But, you know, I watched you post-game with Tony Miola, and you basically saying, like, hey, we are the most athletic team in the tournament. So are we at the point, I know it didn't look great in the second half against Australia, but, like, realistically, before the tournament started, yeah, we were all just, hey, USA, we're going to go win this thing.
18:09Mark Schlabach:But now I think people are genuinely believing that the U.S. can go win this tournament. Do you still feel that that's the case, or is that ultimately still a pipe dream? So we started the tournament like 14th favorite, right? And now we're the ninth favorite. So people are seeing. People have eyes, and they like what they're seeing, and that's true. Tim Howard's right, and he's wrong. And the reason why he's right is because it's very difficult, and they would have to play their best four games ever. But why can't they play their best four games back-to-back? Why can't that happen? That is very possible that that can happen.
18:40They can put teams in difficult situations with the athleticism that they have, with the closing down that they have. They just have to figure out a little bit more in possession. Like the other day against Australia, if Balogun gets those two plays right, it's 4-0, they're cruising. They got a cigar in the mouth, and they're just passing the ball around, and they're dominating the game. Because he doesn't get that, they go under pressure for 20 minutes. So they can't afford those mistakes against the Francis, against the best teams in the world. But who's to say that they can't put together two or three fantastic games on home soil and get the job done?
19:12They can. I mean, we've seen some amazing storylines. Cabo Verde is a population of 500 ,000 people. They just tied Uruguay. And they had a draw in the first game as well. So they are the darlings of the tournament. But if they can do it, they're off an island off of Africa with 500 ,000 people. Why can't a great country like the U.S. with 350 million people population, why can't they do it?
19:31Pat McAfee:Yeah. And you know what? Why can't we sing Country Roads all the way to a world title? I love it, by the way. Me too. We absolutely love it. I know you put a cowboy hat on and certainly take your Country Roads whenever you get the opportunity as an Italian New Jersey man, for sure, and an Italy Italy man as well. But Country Roads becoming something. And then Ponch saying, like, I get so emotional.
19:54Mark Schlabach:I know I'm not American, but it's hard not to get emotional.
19:56Pat McAfee:It's like, hold on. Are we getting Ponch for the next 10, 15 years? Yes.
20:00Mark Schlabach:Lifetime contract right now. Do it. Sign him.
20:03Pat McAfee:Yeah. It would be very Detroit of us if we were to sign him after winning the two games in the World Cup. That's fine. Whatever. But why not? He's the all-time leader in wins for a U.S. gaffer in the World Cup. So, yeah. I don't know if that's a real stat, but I do appreciate it. Probably is. It is. I don't like that. I don't like to hear that. Man, that's pathetic. Yeah, we don't need to get it. Maybe it is the Detroit Lions' time. Yeah. We do need to lock him up. But I do hope he stays, honestly, because his mindset is good for soccer because he's an attacker. you know in a lot of american fans that aren't really fans of soccer i think if they saw more offense they would like it like hey if we if we see guys dicing guys you know like i think clint dempsey's talked about this dempsey was one of the first guys that went international american that used to cook people i mean he would like cook guys he would represent for america over there in england cook an english defender in front of everybody and take it to the net we got a lot of guys that could do that now if that just becomes like the norm like hey this is how americans play soccer because i think like latin american teams are known for that right i think that's something that like latin american teams before kind of smaller little fundamentally better a little bit quicker if we can be big strong and faster than i mean look we could be really american soccer like we can we can really do this gorilla i have faith i have faith in america being able to figure it out even if our best athletes which is what everybody says our best athletes are going to football and basketball and baseball potentially even because if you take some of our football guys and put them on a soccer pitch.
21:26Pat McAfee:I mean, don't even want to play that game. We would cook. Absolutely. J.J. Watt was pretty easy to play against, to be honest. That's different. We're not putting J.J. Watt out there. We'll put Tyreek Hill out there. He would have to have a lifetime of training. Obviously, he'd have to commit his entire life every single day to skills to be able to do it. But I still think that the players that choose to play soccer as kids in America, in their body types and everything that we have, I think we have a chance to be great. And I love what's happening. I love his mindset mostly. So we need to keep him around.
21:59Pat McAfee:Okay, let's go to the perennial powers. Last question here for you. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Grello, you mentioned the U.S. making it all the way to the semis, which would be great. Hopefully win the whole thing. But aside from them, who do you like to win the whole thing after, you know, a week plus into this? Is it still those Spains, France, Germany, or has there been a team that maybe has surprised you that you think can kind of go ahead and win? I wish I had a better answer for you, a more interesting answer. It's France and Spain. There's no one else. You could throw away the rest of that chart.
22:29England's not doing anything. Portugal's not doing anything. Germany's not doing anything. It's Spain and France, and it's them against them. It's if they decide to show up. They're going to get stronger, by the way, as the tournament goes on. They're going to start to figure out their team. They're going to figure out their cadence, their surroundings. Obviously, being in the United States of America, they're going to figure out what the heat looks like, what the travel looks like. So they're going to continue to get better. They've got experienced managers as well. So those are the teams. The one, I don't want to say Dark Horse, but the one team that surprised me is Argentina with Messi.
23:00Messi looks really good still. Messi looks sharp. He looks efficient. The team, they're a bunch of dogs. You look through the team and you find maybe one or two good players with Messi, but they're all willing to work for him. I don't know if you've seen those clips where the whole team is standing there waiting to go into the stadium, and they will not move until Messi goes into the stadium first. They will not do anything unless it's okayed by Messi first. And I think that's a special team right there. And they won the last one, so why can't they do it again as well?
23:30Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, a bunch of capos for Messi on the field is not a bad thing, especially with how he kind of can still play. You talk about him still – I mean, he might be able to make the next World Cup. Like, he might be able to play the next World Cup. For us. Only guy with white boots in there, too. Yeah, of course. A lot of pink stuff coming out of Nike and Adidas. It feels like their World Cup cleat was, like, pink. neither of them talked to each other i don't know if that was the decision that was made by them together or separate i saw a video on that that it was just basically like pink is the most thing that clashes with green so it stands out the most so both of them just were like hey let's do pink well and i'll tell you there is some sick moments especially with the guy in the front if he was wearing pink instead of the cleats that he's wearing he's so unbelievable gorilla i i this is my first time in my life getting introduced to young messy because they're cutting up highlights of uh my algo has become a lot of messy just dicing people and doing stuff her pep was talking about him talking about how he's surveying everything and he's calculating everything that's happening and then he's finding your weakness and then as soon as the ball gets to him he's executing his own plan that he's kind of creating in real time so whenever like inner miami was trying to figure out this team with him it's very obvious that they had to find players that could play with him like it feels like you have to have a certain level to be able to play with messi it feels like i've never seen and when he was a little lad watching him play what an insane.
24:45Pat McAfee:This dude's the one, bro, and has been since, what, he's like 15 years old? He's been the one, basically? Hey, Pat, there was a stat one game that he played in that the goalkeeper ran more than him. And so, that just makes me love him more because he's playing with his brain. He's smart. He's not running for the sake of running. He's not talking for the sake of talking. He's super humble, works super hard, but he's really smart. If he's in the right position, I think this probably pertains to a lot of sports, if you're in the right position, position you don't need to run sometimes you need to let the game come to you and i think he's so smart and that you know to your point saying can he play in the next workup physically i think he can because he doesn't waste uh a mileage he doesn't put mileage on his legs that he doesn't need to do and you saw the other day three chances three goals he doesn't forgive you in front of goal like that's you know when we talk about the details between the u.s and about a team like argentina who have done it now three times in their history messi gets three chances three goals Balogun gets three chances, maybe it's one.
25:43Those are the margins sometimes in these kind of tournaments, and that's sort of what I'm alluded to, and I think that's why Argentina is so great because, man, he's just a beast.
25:52Pat McAfee:Especially when you have an anytime goal scorer for you. Yeah. Lay up. Lay up. We need to put those in. We need to put those in. All right, Grello, we appreciate you, man. Thank you for keeping us updated. Today, Argentina and Austria, France, Iraq, Norway, Senegal, Jordan, and Nigeria. Just insane that all these countries are in North America playing against each other, and all their fans are here too. Hey, let's have another great day at World Cup. Good boy. Thank you, Gurella. Good luck out there, ladies and gentlemen. It's Michael Gurella. Yeah, Gurella. It's like his Super Bowl time. Yeah, big time.
26:25Pat McAfee:Especially their CBS and Paramount Galazzo show. They're big. They are. I have learned from doing soccer stuff that they are a big part of the soccer stuff. Oh, yeah. CBS and Paramount put a lot of money into soccer. Yes. Fox, how much money they put in for this World Cup? Have we looked up what that number is? I assume a ton. I'm not sure. It was a deal from the last one. It was kind of like you take the last one and you get this one at like a cut price. I read an interesting article about it. What was the last one? The last one was Qatar. And nobody wanted it because it was way out there? Is that what happened?
26:55Yeah, and then this one was part of the deal, and that's why it's up after this World Cup.
26:59Pat McAfee:Oh, so you had a little BOGO situation with the first one. I'll be excited to see who wants in on the action next after what soccer becomes here in America. because I've told this story multiple times. I played soccer when I was like three I started. My older brother played. But then when that World Cup thing happened, you could see soccer just kind of have this uptick in everything. And then Tony Muola was doing these cons hot dogs soccer camps and traveling around that stadiums were starting to happen. And I think they were picking up the MLS, got a little bit more traction in this entire thing.
27:26Pat McAfee:It really is just like a potential, like, what's Sonic jump on? Those things that are like make you go faster. one of those turbo boost, whatever the fuck those are. I know what you're talking about. That's what it does to a sport. It's just like what lacrosse could do at the Summer Olympics whenever it comes to LA if there's a big up to it. Just like what hockey was able to do. Sports are really going right now and if the teams are great, obviously we as humans, and it's not a bad thing, we are a bandwagon crowd. We got enough bad shit in our lives so if we're going to pick something up, we'd like it to have a good time like i think it would like to be a good reaction so this usa team providing a lot of celebratory moments for something that we've never really wanted to celebrate before that's a great thing too i think people will sign up for that especially in the time we're in now it feels like a real nice remedy and a real nice uh recipe for for some real success in the future as well not just being a one year one tournament pony here yeah maybe being able to go forward and actually be great yeah and america being a great host has been awesome too like we saw the numbers and the amount of people that have gone.
28:32I think it's at like 99.5 % capacity through 36 games. And you mentioned the Olympics. I think during that time, it was the highest signups they ever had, like 100 ,000. But, yeah, seeing scenes like this, like the Netherlands in Texas, seeing the stories online. I know Gumpy was at this game, and he said it was ridiculous seeing the Sea of Orange and everything. Looking forward as well, Spain and Portugal will host the next World Cup, And that feels like another place that will be a great kind of host city, not to mention the game times. Like us being able to watch games at 1, 4, or 5, 6, and then 9 or 10, like having them on when people are looking for stuff to watch and the ability to watch it is so great.
29:16Like that is also added because Qatar, it was impossible if you remember.
29:19Pat McAfee:Yeah, March Madness feel. Yeah. You know, March Madness feel. You always have something like the golf obviously picked up for a couple of the games at RAS. There was one where I bet the over and goalies made 152 saves. That was unbelievable. I never in my life. Yeah, there it is, Curacao. This guy standing on his fucking head. I mean, should have had 10 goals. I bet the over, I think, 2.5 maybe or 3.5. And I was like, this is fun. That's been the fun bet for me, over 3.5. Or I'll drop down to over 2.5, even if it's minus 160. It's like, let's at least just have a little bit of action here. I know it's not great odds, but I'm just pulling for goals to happen.
29:53Pat McAfee:And lo and behold, the modern soccer style is an attacking style. So many. Which I like. There hasn't been a lot of duds. Yeah, I think there's only been two scoreless games so far. Yep. And one, the Spain-Capo Verde one of Spain had 25 shots and the goalie just stood on his head. But we are back to today. I don't know if you remember last week when Erling Haaland scored two, Messi scored three, Mbappe scored two. We are back to that same lineup for today. So, you know, if you like the stars today, there's something out there. Yeah, we like the trust of stars. but has it been able to go back-to-back in soccer?
30:24Pat McAfee:What is the trend of soccer? Are they able to carry that from one game to the next, or are we hot-cold? Their names tend to show up all the time in soccer. Like Mbappe, they've changed it so he's like minus 200 to score. Now that Norway's playing a good team like Senegal, Holland's down to 105, but Messi's still minus 110. Like, it's Argentina team, and they're so special, man. Gumpy's talking about these bets because he had it for a long time on DraftKings. They weren't able to kind of balance the odds well enough that if you like a team, just take their best player to score a goal as well. Because the reason why these guys are considered the best players is because they score goals.
31:00Pat McAfee:That's kind of what we've learned. If we know their names, Gumpy's telling us now he is a full-time footy handicapper. He is making picks on every game from every league, even the second and third leagues that are completely ass. He is kind of knowing. But his kind of fallback plan for soccer gambling is if you like a team, best player is going to score. That's why he's their best player. And it seemingly has rung true there early. That literally happened early, other than a Spain game with Yamal, but then he scores the next game. It's immediately like that. Feels like that's a nice little thing to think about whenever we're placing some wagers, Gumby.
31:33Yeah, and the odds you can get on these guys are absurd. Like, not even the top guys. Like, Jude Bellingham was plus 400 to score the other day. He's one of the best players in the world. Like, some of these numbers you can get on these guys in these games is insane.
31:45Pat McAfee:And if we continue to talk about it, those numbers will change. Yeah, he's minus 250 tomorrow. or plus 250 tomorrow.
31:50Mark Schlabach:Oh, well, that's ridiculous. But that's what's awesome about DraftKings, too, though, is they have the live goal scores that you can do the entire tournament. So if a guy's odds are like that, you just wait until the game starts, and then you use that little boost and make it a little juicier.
32:02Pat McAfee:And you can kind of tell early if the game's going to go a lot of goals or not a lot of goals. They give you live over-unders as well. DraftKings Live is a good time. It's actually a good – they're presenting you things like, hey, next what's going to happen? Who's the next scorer? Is there going to be a scorer? How many – it is – I've enjoyed the time. Shout out, DraftKings. We appreciate you. 21 plus. Be responsible. Be responsible. We're having a good time over there. But we're responsible. And we're not thinking we're becoming bazillionaires because of it. Remember, you're going to get it wrong.
32:30Pat McAfee:Sports are very impossible to predict. But it feels like we have a nice little thing going with soccer. No doubt. So let's go ahead and do that. Responsibly. Joining us now is a minute and give us all the intel on something that's supposed to happen before tomorrow. I saw over the weekend many sports accounts on social media platforms. We're talking about how the honest trade is to be done in the next couple days maybe in the next couple hours it seemed like uh the owner of the uh milwaukee bucks the owner of the browns uh jimmy haslam whenever he spoke at the nba league meetings he came out and said he'd like this thing done by the draft everybody seemingly addressed this situation as it's going to be done by the draft will he stay with the bucks or will he be gone a man who's been saying that he will be gone from the Bucs at some point soon.
33:14Pat McAfee:For a while, a guy who's been on the freak beat, if you will. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider at ESPN, Shams Sharanya. Yeah, Shams. Shams, how's it going? Good to see you there right outside in New York City on a patio. We appreciate you with such a perfect backdrop. Today's a huge day, it feels like. Everybody's been projecting tomorrow as the find-out time for the honest beat. That is obviously when the NBA draft is, so the future will have to be decided before tomorrow. What are you hearing and what is the likelihood of a deal happening before tomorrow? Yeah, Pat, Bucs executives are literally right now in their offices figuring out which direction they're going to go.
33:56Because there are two offers right now that it's come down to at a serious and significant level. That's the Celtics offer led by Jalen Brown, who's a superstar. There's other additional pieces of that deal. or an offer from the Miami Heat that consists of several players, players that you have control over on rookie-scale contracts, guys that you can extend at a reasonable number, and a surplus of draft capital. And so they're two totally different offers. The Bucs are trying to navigate internally. Which direction do we go? Everything that I hear, all of my sense in my reporting is that there will be a decision before the NBA draft.
34:35There's going to be a resolution before the draft. So I think over the next 24 hours. So yeah, as soon as today, there's going to be a resolution. This has been something that's been going on for 13 months, but at a serious level since February, when the Bucks took a bunch of calls, got a bunch of offers that really laid the groundwork for what we're seeing right now. They've done the work. They did the work in February. Then they opened it up at the May Draft Combine, listened to a bunch of teams. And there were a ton of teams that made offers that had robust interest in Giannis, but at a high, high level, it comes down to for Giannis, a guy that's got one year left guaranteed on his contract.
35:10You have a lot of control on your future. You get to determine a lot of it because any team in this second apron, we hear the word second apron in this collective bargaining agreement, they need to know that Giannis will sign long term. And right now, the Heat and the Celtics are the only two teams involved that have gotten the commitment from Giannis that he is willing to sign long term. That's allowed Milwaukee to really leverage both of these teams against each other. And now they have a decision to make. And both deals are totally different. But we'll know here in the next 24 hours is my sense on where this is going.
35:45Pat McAfee:Okay, 100 % chance he's not a buck after the next 24 hours or 99 % chance he's not a buck and he's either a Miami Heat or a Boston Celtic. That is what we're assuming. I mean, I'll go. You never know in life. I'll go 95. I'll go 98. I'll give it a few percentage chance. points, but Giannis, there's a trade, whether it's now before the NBA draft or if it's later on. Oh, later on. I say that, but I said it. It's 95, 98. This deal, there's all the efforts right now, Pat, that are being put forth by all the parties, all the teams involved. It's to find a resolution because the most important thing right now is the draft is tomorrow.
36:31Both of these deals have picks in this draft on the table. So the Miami Heat have the number 13 pick in the draft. The Bucs have to know before tomorrow that they are picking there. They have to do a lot of prep work for that pick. There's trade possibilities when you have a pick that high, as well as they already have number 10. And then Boston has, I believe, number 27. That will also be a part of the deal from my understanding. So there's a lot of prep that goes into it. If you're going to draft, you want to be able to know and you want to be able to draft your own pick and that's why all the efforts right now are being put forth to execute this deal
37:04Pat McAfee:before tomorrow okay good luck to all parties as they try to either make the bucks realize in miami's perspective hey you're not let's go younger let's kind of reset this thing let's see which way you want to go and if you're the celtics hey you're getting a mega superstar here with a big deal maybe you would go ahead and win it in a different fashion even though you weren't able to win it there at the end with yannis on that note we know jalen brown likes to stream we know a lot about him i think through those streams go ahead con man yeah shams now that jalen brown's on the table officially is it safe to say whether he goes and gets traded in this deal or if the bucks end up going with the heat deal that the celtics are probably going to move jalen brown now just because his name's out there he might not like the fact that he's being shopped what is the situation there if the celtics don't get the honest trade everyone around the league bc is is going to be talking about this if this deal does not get done for the celtics it's what is the future of Jalen Brown.
37:56The thing the Celtics do have though, and Jalen Brown knows this, is he's got multiple years left on his deal. To just trade a player like that, you see what Brad Stevens has done. To my knowledge, they're not shopping Jalen Brown. This is a very specific situation, but this is now twice in four years where the Celtics have offered Jalen Brown in a major trade for a future Hall of Famer. In 2022, they offered him as well as other pieces for Kevin Durant. They missed on that. Now they're going after Giannis and they've put Jalen Brown on the table. And it's a situation where they have a clear goal.
38:34They feel like they're going to be upgrading their team. Now, if you miss out on Giannis, what trades are out there where you can realistically say we are upgrading our team? I don't think there's a player better than Giannis that's going to become available in the marketplace. And so then the Celtics have to make a decision. Jalen Brown, how do those conversations shake up? That's all stuff that I think we'll learn more about whenever this decision is made or maybe for the Celtics. They won't have to have those hard conversations with Jalen Brown or whatever leads to that. But we don't know yet the result because, again, there's a chance they could still end up with a Jalen Brown-Yanis trade.
39:09Pat McAfee:Just fascinating because the whole Batman-Robin conversation and then Tatum hurt how they did with Brown as the leader. And then, you know, Brown has obviously ears and eyes, so he sees and hears everything that's being chatted about. He thinks, you know, there's a chance he doesn't get enough respect that's kind of been chatted about, but I assume every player is like that. Is there actual drama? Is there not real drama? Well, now he's being traded for the Greek freak. Okay, so you definitely don't want me here. This is the second time you tried to trade me. Will that become a problem? How will Missoula handle that?
39:33Pat McAfee:How will Brad Stevens handle that? Is Boston going to be okay if the Miami Heat end up with Giannis? I guess we'll find out. It could all potentially collapse up there in TD Garden. I think we know how Missoula's going to handle it. Okay, you're upset? Let's get in the octagon. and throw fisticuffs and see how bad you really want it. And now we move on. Bingo. Okay, I respect that, actually. I respect Mozilla and Stephens. Get his judo coach, his jiu-jitsu coach. Get them in there. That is an interesting feeling, though, for Jalen Brown. Very tough. That's a very interesting feeling for 3R, but that is the business, as they say.
40:04Pat McAfee:Good luck to all parties. Let's talk about new business happening in new places down there in Dallas. Go ahead, Ty.
40:09Mark Schlabach:Yeah, Shams, kind of a bombshell a little bit while all the Giannis stuff was going on. Dusty May is leaving Michigan, and he's going to go coach the Mavericks. Now, I know earlier in the offseason, he was kind of connected to the Orlando Magic job, and that kind of got washed away pretty quickly. But how long has this been in the works, and how shocking is this? It's been in the works for a while, just in terms of the Dallas Mavericks. When Masai Ujiri came in, they fired Jason Kidd pretty immediately, and their focus has been trying to get a splash, right? Patrick Dumont, the owner there, he goes out, gets Masai Ujiri.
40:45That's a splash. Now, you go and make a hire. There were two treks here. You could have hired a first-time assistant, a rising assistant coach in the NBA, and there was a pool of those candidates. But there were two people that Masai Ujiri and the Mavericks pursued the last few weeks very aggressively. One was John Shire at Duke. They went after him. I'm told the sides had a meeting as well. And Dusty May. And so the Mavericks had to figure out which direction they want to go, which coach they want to lead Cooper, Flagg, and potentially Kyrie Irving being on this team next season and beyond. This is a long-term opportunity.
41:21Dusty May, we know the changes in college basketball, but you think about that and you think about the opportunity to coach Cooper Flagg. And my understanding is Dusty May always felt whether it was going to be this offseason, next offseason, and the years to come, he was going to make the jump to the NBA. Eventually, John Shire is going to make a jump from all accounts to the NBA. He's just got that build to him, that mold to him. Same as Dusty May. And we know he won a championship there. Now he gets to be in that Dallas market. And you think about the rise that he's had as a coach. When I talk to NBA executives, they look at him, his relationships with players, his accountability, his ability as a tactician.
42:01I think a lot of people are projecting Dusty May to be a fairly elite coach at the next level.
42:06Pat McAfee:Fairly elite. I can't wait to see that. Just won a national championship and leaves the place that seemingly you build a culture and a juggernaut. Now, we saw the Hembo stat. He becomes two of three of coaches that have won a national championship and then left from Michigan. Harbaugh did it. See ya. That was obviously an interesting predicament, all of that. Dusty May, see ya. Now you've got to wonder, is Michigan okay? What's going on? I'm in Michigan. Can't keep any coaches.
42:34Mark Schlabach:Especially their AD has said he said it with Harbaugh and he said it with Dusty May right after they won championships. Like, no, they're not going anywhere. We're going to get long-term extensions for these guys done. And then they just haven't.
42:43Pat McAfee:Well, it sounds like when the Chargers come calling with Justin Herbert and everything else that potentially comes calling as well, it's hard not to pass up. And then Dusty May with Cooper Flagg in Dallas. This is a rebirth era for the Mavericks. They move on from the Cuban era. The Cuban era ending there was horrendous. I think it worked out as poorly as possible that you possibly could have. Almost got as bad as your own fans thinking that you're trying to lose enough so they stop going so you can take the team to another city. That's what happened in Dallas. That's how bad it got down there after Luka got traded.
43:15Pat McAfee:This has to be on purpose. They're trying to scare us away. They want us to not come to these games so then they can stay and take the team to Las Vegas or whatever. That's how ugly it got in Dallas. Now, all of a sudden, Dusty May comes in there. You got Cooper Kyrie too, right? Yeah. Kyrie's still down there. Maybe they're able to have some success, and maybe the Mavs will be back in full on good graces with the sports world. You talked about Giannis being the big trade partner that could potentially be happening if Celtics weren't able to get it with Jalen Brown, but maybe not. Go ahead, Tone.
43:44Yeah, Shams, you talked about Jalen Brown and Giannis. Those are obviously the two biggest names out there right now that we've heard. Is there any other potential big names or names that we would know that are tradable for the draft tomorrow? Yeah, I mean, I think you definitely have to look at a couple of players in New Orleans, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones. I think those are two players that have gotten a ton of interest in the marketplace. I think a lot of people are keeping an eye and monitoring the Kawhi Leonard situation with the Clippers. He's got one year left on his deal. We don't know how that's going to play out with the Clippers.
44:14There's no urgency there. They've been through this with Kawhi before where they're entering the last year of his deal. But certainly a lot of people monitoring that situation. Minnesota has been involved in the Giannis thing at different points. They're not involved right now. What happens there? They know they need to make an upgrade. They know they need to add something to this team with Anthony Edwards on it. And so they made a pitch on a bunch of different guys around the league. We'll see who they can come up with. But there's going to be a lot of tentacles that come out. The entire NBA is waiting on Giannis and this domino to fall.
44:46Not only will it have an impact on one of Miami or Boston, but it's going to have an impact for multiple teams across the league and wherever and whoever I want to make this clear whoever Milwaukee chooses it's going to be a one-to-one deal like like it's not going to have a third team a fourth team that doesn't mean in three weeks four weeks it does it can't turn into one but the Bucs would be trading for the players to keep those players and then from there you never know what can happen this is clearly a team that's taking a step back. They're evaluating their position. You're falling off as a contender.
45:21If they felt like they were a contender, they wouldn't be trading Giannis. That's the bottom line.
45:26Pat McAfee:So it feels like you think it's probably Miami after reassessment, but Jalen Brown is a superstar. Jalen Brown is one of the best players in the NBA. And so as much as you can say, hey, we're getting all these players and picks and all this stuff from Miami, Jalen Brown is Jalen Brown and I think that's what if you're in inside Milwaukee these are the two different factors that you are you're weighing good luck to the Bucs and you never know what Jimmy Haslam is gonna do never know yeah he could actually get Jalen Brown and say I actually want to triple what you're making to let people know that I'm I'm supporting yeah yeah yeah but you're gonna have to cut well Jalen Brown is up for an extension regardless so Jalen that's the other factor in this like let's say he stays with Boston right these sides are staring at a two-year 140 million plus extension in july or i believe it's in july i think late july so do the celtics pay it do they give it to him do they not want to give it to him where does that stand if he's still on that roster if he's elsewhere will that team give him i believe it'll be a one-year extension obviously at a massive clip you're the best we appreciate you we can't wait for tomorrow uh is that guy from kansas gonna go number one overall i remember he was pulling himself out of games.
46:41Pat McAfee:That's all I'm hearing, right? That's the whole conversation around him. He must be absolutely filthy to first of all, be able to pull himself out of games, first of all, and then also be considered the number one overall pick after pulling himself out of games. Is this guy, this is generational talent? Is that what we're talking about here out of Kansas? Pat, I definitely think people view him as that. I think they view A.J. DeBansa as that, Cam Boozer as that as well, potentially Caleb Wilson. This is a deep draft. Mikkel Brown, Braden Buries, Keaton Wagler. This draft is deep. There's a lot of names, a lot of players that I think will turn out very, very promising, could have Hall of Fame type careers.
47:23But the league-wide belief that I get and the belief that I feel from talking to people that I trust around the league is that A.J. DeBansa is the favorite and is the person at one as of this moment. We'll see what happens over the next 24 hours. but that is someone the league believes will go number one.
47:43Pat McAfee:Are they doing that in the first take studio again? You remember that? Oh, yeah. That was awesome. That was incredible. All right, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Sheralia. Hey, baby Sean. Not even the studio, the lunchroom. No, I think it was. It was like half a day. No, they moved the tables from the lunchroom into the show. And then they put what? They put like a white color. Yeah, yep. That was COVID, baby. Half get up, half first take. That was hilarious. They had like the walk from one room to the other. I liked it. Hey, adapt or die. Like we're doing right now. Mitt's in the back back there for Bruce.
48:14Pat McAfee:What are you doing, Mitt? Hey, that a bit of you, Mitt. Mitt, haven't even been able to really tell. Foxy's had to do a little bit more, which we appreciate. Foxy got caught on a hot mic back there.
48:22JJ Watt:Yeah, that was my fault, too. Oh, okay. Yeah, totally my fault. My button sticks sometimes, and that's what happens.
48:30Pat McAfee:Foxy, listen, I don't want to quote too many coaches, but you just need to do your job, okay? I know it's going to be hard for you because you're going to want to pick up two jobs right now. You just need to do your job to the best of your ability while also helping him out and doing his job too. So let's fucking do our job.
48:45JJ Watt:And honestly, I don't know why I'm ever even turning the live mic on anyway. That should not be happening anyway. Yeah, you're right. Let's vote on that actually.
48:52Pat McAfee:We never hear in Foxy's voice again. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right. Never hear from Foxy again. The people watching also say aye. Boom! We already ruined it. You already ruined it. You already ruined it. Okay, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, Foxy, I couldn't go without hearing you, buddy. We couldn't go without hearing you.
49:06JJ Watt:Thank you.
49:07Pat McAfee:We'd rather it be, like, all, like, welcomed by people when you're talking in there. Right. Like, the hot mic's kind of like a... Oh, no, somebody's about to say something. Chaos. Yeah, that was dangerous. Yeah, it was a little dangerous. Who knows what's going on back here? Call him mitt names. What type of words do you think he's... I can't say it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is at the U.S. Open and obviously has covered golf for us spectacularly, but he's also put out his rankings for next college football season already. Hell, yeah. The Schlawball power rankings are going to become our go-to as the rankings of college football from this point forward.
49:42Pat McAfee:And also, a man joining us, let us know what it was like over there in Shinnecock to get Shinnecocked while Wyndham Clark won and defied all the odds of the spectators on the grounds. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schlawball. Yeah, Mark. How you doing, bud? Yes. Did you get Shinnecocked this weekend? How would you kind of describe the major over there? because I'll tell you, it looked beautiful from watching at home. The golf was awesome. It didn't feel like they were beating up the course too much. Didn't feel like the course was beating them up too much. Feels like they got it right. I think the president of the USGA was speaking to Toriko, I believe, and said that we worked really hard to get it right this time because of what has happened before.
50:21Pat McAfee:What is your takeaway from the U.S. Open and obviously Wyndham winning his second ever? Yeah, I think for as much grief as the U.S. Open caught the last two times, I think they did a fantastic job. You couldn't have accounted for the fog on Thursday morning, but the greens were moist, and Clark took advantage of that Thursday afternoon, went low, and kind of held on to the end. But it's one of the most beautiful golf courses in the world. I think they got what they wanted. I think the Shinnecock members got what they wanted with only three guys under par. It showed its teeth over the weekend. And look, Wyndham Clark, nobody wanted him to win but his girlfriend and his dad and his team.
51:05And he figured out a way to get it done. You know, it might have crossed the line, but it wasn't like the Ryder Cup. I mean, they weren't throwing beers at his girlfriend, like Rory McIlroy's wife. So it wasn't too bad.
51:19Pat McAfee:Okay, so I'm happy that we got that settled. I'm happy Rory McIlroy will also chirp back at some New Yorkers, especially if they are tubby but have a great voice. You know, they certainly cut through there and had the courage to be able to say that just feet away from Rory. Let's talk about Wyndham Clark a little bit. You know, you chitchat about nobody wanting him to win other than Emily Tanner, I believe, is his girlfriend. She is also an internet golf personality. I think she's in the golf world. His dad flew in at 6 a.m. I heard that story as it was in there to go ahead and see him. His crew, his team, they cheered for.
51:50Pat McAfee:It was very obvious that, even watching at home, very obvious nobody wanted him to win. So every shot like this was going to get amplified because if he made any mistakes, they were going to be celebrating in his face. Just a week ago, though, I saw him up in Canada wearing the Team USA hockey jersey in front of a crowd getting booed. Do we think he was the right guy for this type of reaction? And was it just because of Oakmont? Because I saw some tweets from people saying, Wyndham thinks we only don't like him because of Oakmont. Why is Wyndham a guy that is easily not likable, I guess would be the question.
52:18Pat McAfee:And is it just because he was with Scotty Scheffler, who everybody literally loves? I mean I think that was part of it Scotty was going for the career grand slam he's kind of the people's champion now you know Wyndham has had other incidents he tore up a T-marker I think or a sign at the PGA Championship a year ago at Coil Hollow you know he showed up in Canada last week wearing a Team USA jersey that's fine my guy Kevin Kisner showed up at the Ryder Cup in Europe one time wearing a 1776 hat which was the ultimate Nice reminder. Yeah. But, you know, look, the deal at Oakmont was bad. He's, you know, people said he didn't apologize directly to the club.
53:02He owned it this week. I love that it came out, Pat, that Oakmont, right outside of Pittsburgh, they had a Springer-Ringer tournament back in the spring, and the trophy was made out of the mesh from the lockers he destroyed. I mean, that is the, like their members were wanting to buy them. They were so coveted. that is the ultimate FU to Wyndham Clark but look he's a guy that's had anger management problems he admits it he said yesterday he doesn't get angry anymore he gets frustrated he lost his mom to breast cancer a few years ago his dad I think was hard on him growing up you know we saw him fly in on a red eye from Denver I think his mom might have been the filter between the two and that I mean he almost gave up golf in college He transferred from Oklahoma State to Oregon.
53:50The great Casey Martin turned him around and got his head right. He struggled mightily a year ago, had a two-way miss that he couldn't fix. He went back to the swing coach in Cherry Hills in Denver to get it fixed. Look, he wasn't a popular winner, but he had the game to do it. He played better than everybody else, struggled with the irons over the weekend, but scrambled his rear off that shot out of the tall grass on 16 after his drive. I think Jim Bones Mackay said it's awful to lie, and he gets it out of there and muscles it up there. So give him credit. I mean, Sam Burns had three really good looks to make birdie coming down the stretch and didn't make him.
54:34Could have put more pressure on him. But, you know, like I wrote this morning, Wyndham Clark didn't leave any dents at Shinnecock, but he definitely left his mark.
54:42Pat McAfee:Okay. I love the way you write. That's a schlobock fastball right there. Speaking of which, I caught some hell from Boston Conner last week for my picks, Scheffler, and then you guys asked me again on Friday. I gave him Wyndham Clark. I mean, I gave him the two guys who were in the last group on Sunday. I don't know what more he could possibly want. It's not my fault. Bite your lips, schlobock. You screwed up. Cut the lip, buddy. Some of these guys close like the Red Sox, But, you know, what do I say? Okay, Mark. Okay, Mark. Shut up. Hey, he's glowing right now. He was excited about that. Anytime.
55:24When you all are ready to trade Sonny Gray to the Cubs, let me know.
55:28Pat McAfee:The Cubs suck, too. The Pirates need everything we could possibly have. PCA is balling, though. I see he's still breaking some records. Baseball, phenomenal sport. College baseball tonight. Have any takes? UNC Oklahoma. Oklahoma, I guess, going into the tournament, not supposed to be that great. All of a sudden, they're looking to win, I think, their seventh national championship. They've already won seven. And then UNC would be their first time ever winning a national championship. Obviously, a lot has to happen. What are your thoughts quickly as we have a minute until a hard out, Mark? I've got no thoughts.
55:58I'd go with Carolina. I know Oklahoma threw the freshman stud yesterday, and he got rattled. I think North Carolina did to him what Georgia couldn't. I'd go with Carolina. I'd go with the major league program.
56:12Pat McAfee:Seven straight SEC titles if Oklahoma is to win. Damn. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. So there's – It means more. It just means more. All right. Except for Georgia. All right. Shut up. Okay. West Virginia was in there, too. Okay. And West Virginia was in there, too. And if we lose to North Carolina, if North Carolina wins, we're taking third. That's right. We're taking third because that's who we lost to, and they end up winning the title. So congrats on fourth place. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schlott ball. Yeah, Mark. His top two teams in college football, way too early, 25. Two Big Ten teams, so he knows.
56:45Pat McAfee:Oh, he gets it. He knows what it is. Mark, we saw that. We see you picking the North, Mark, in your way too early top 25. You're muted. Sorry about it. See you later. All right, out of two on the other side. Be your friend, tell your friend something nice about changing life. Goodbye.
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57:49Pat McAfee:Sports are the absolute greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. I hope all the dads out there had phenomenal Father's Days. I hope everybody had a great weekend, and I hope sports continue to captivate you just like it did to us. We have a new major champion who becomes a two-time major champion in Wyndham. Clark over there is Shinnecock. Hey, baby, Wyndham. We got a sport that everybody's seemingly watching and not calling soft anymore. Shaw soccer. Yeah, soccer. Football's still bringing it. We got a new man making over$100 million to play football in Jeffrey Simmons down there in Tennessee.
58:18Pat McAfee:Way to go football. Yeah. Obviously, college baseball has its World Series tonight. We'll be joined by WVU baseball head coach Steve Saban, a man who just led the West Virginia Mountaineers to the semifinals of the College Baseball World Series. The first time West Virginia has ever been to Omaha. Obviously the best season we've ever had. Cannot wait to catch up with him. And his thoughts on tonight's national championship. Sports continue to be great. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Boston, it feels like it's Scotland now. Are you Scottish, Connor, all of a sudden?
58:48I would like to be. I am a little bit Scottish. I do have that in me as well as Irish. But, yeah, absolutely. We already miss them up there. You know, I saw that they went down to Miami. They started to do their same old antics, and Miami didn't love it as much. So I think Scotland also missing Boston mightily. But, yeah, look at that. I mean, the Tatanami marching with horses as well at the front. Yeah, I think even BPD loves the Scottish Army and drinking outside.
59:10Pat McAfee:Who's petrified in Scotland? In Europe? Scotland's on fire. Your defense is petrified. Scotland's on fire. Your defense is petrified. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
59:27Mark Schlabach:Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Veef is black.
59:31Pat McAfee:Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. There's so many white people that it does sound like na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
59:42Pat McAfee:There's China. Yeah. We have been since the beginning of time, haven't we? They got it over there in Europe, though. Nailed it. Yeah, they do. They got it.
59:56Pat McAfee:Now, Team USA has the best chant, obviously. U-S-A. U-S-A. Like, that's just powerful. Yeah. Good luck. Good timing. And in Seattle, that thing was... And the Norway lads have the best motion. Good roll. With the row. But Scotland's got the pipes. They got the bagpipes. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Tone, how you doing? You chasing the crown tonight? Always chasing the crown. A lot of World Cup action. Argentina is about to kick off. And then three other games today. Who told you that? That they're about to kick off? No. Whatever that was there for. Argentina. Lou Messi.
1:00:39That's how Grela said it, I thought. Paraguay. Argentina. Paraguay. Isn't that what he said? He definitely hit it.
1:00:47Pat McAfee:We're trying, aren't we? Yeah. I feel like we are trying. Capo Verde. Capo Verde. Argentina. Capo. Anyways, Argentina kicks off today, obviously. We hope Messi. Messi's one goal away from being the all-time leader, I believe, in World Cup goals. I think he's one assist away from being the all-time leader and assist in World Cup history over Maradona, who's obviously an Argentinian legend. And then you think about Kloza, I think. Yeah, Miroslav Kloza. Yeah, I believe he is the goal scorer. So, obviously, history can be made anytime Messi's on the pitch. France, Mbappe, he's outrageously good. Norway, we know.
1:01:19Pat McAfee:hold on who should be on the graphic. Can't believe you didn't put him up there. Maybe next time, kid. Jordan in Algeria. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from an attic in Ohio, is a big-time soccer fan. A man who's sending into the group text more soccer questions than anybody else. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, A.J. Hawk. Hawker, the footy fan. How you doing, pal? Yeah, you're right. I think I might be in on soccer once this World Cup even concludes. Maybe I I stick with it and watch some MLS and watch all those tournaments that Gump's always talking about that happen year-round over there.
1:01:52Pat McAfee:See, I think all those tournaments are kind of feeding into the World Cup super-duper tournament. So there's four years of tournaments that lead up to the World Cup, and obviously everybody's trying to catch it and chase it. Champions League, I believe, is the one in Europe that is the best of the best. And then there's obviously the Premier League and England, La Liga, this Liga, and that Liga. Syria, Liga, BBV. And DOS Liga. All these Ligas. MLS Liga. So they're all doing it. But I heard we're getting a new tournament down there, too, where we're going to get Messi's Argentina squad, Concafa versus them, I think.
1:02:22Pat McAfee:Right? We're bringing that over. We're making a new. Yeah, it was here the last time when they were all through the vents in Miami. It's that tournament. Yeah, we're making it. So we got new tournaments coming, obviously, that are taking place. But it's good for us. Would your kids get into soccer when they normally wouldn't because of what's happening in this tournament or no? You know, probably not. But I don't know. I guess they all played soccer before they could play football. So, yeah, maybe they would have stuck with it longer, I guess. That could have happened. Okay, definitely could have.
1:02:50Pat McAfee:But I have seen that, you know, in hockey, we saw 100 ,000 signups or something after the Olympics. We assume that's going to happen for soccer. It's good for sport. It's good for the country. Hopefully, America goes on to win the whole damn thing. Ladies and gentlemen, every once in a while, we get an opportunity to be a part of massive days in the history of athletes. Today might be the biggest we've had to date. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another commitment.
1:03:20Pat McAfee:AJ, say it with me.
1:03:58Pat McAfee:Here we go. Who's going where next? Well, let's go to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, out of St. Thomas Aquinas High School. Obviously, legendary school, legendary name. Ladies and gentlemen, Julius Jones Jr. Hey, Julius! How are we? How are you doing? Hey, how are you doing down there? It looks amazing. We've never had this backdrop. Where the hell are we right now? This is so nice, Julius Jones. Where are we right now? Can you explain a little bit? Is that A1A right behind you? I thought you would know. I mean, we got elbow room in the back, right on the beach, just for a lot of the vibes out here.
1:04:35Pat McAfee:Listen, I've gotten fourth degree sunburn down there, okay? I don't know if you guys know anything about that, okay? but I got fourth degree sunburn down there and obviously a lot of great memories. Julius Jones, senior here closest. I do believe to the camera. Congratulations on incredible football career. Thank you for what you've done for our sport. And also your boy here being an absolute stud. We appreciate you, man.
1:05:02We've watched you for many years. We've had a chance to play against you. You probably beat you. We'll have to go check in there. You got the fat guys, back check guys so you can check that out but i really appreciate you guys being a part of this it's a big moment for julius worked his ass off to be here uh me and my wife and sons and family friends are here just just ready to celebrate with him okay well we appreciate you letting us
1:05:25Pat McAfee:be a part of the day andre jones there's next to him that's his brother kelly jones his mom there and then at the age is that uh derek down there sir my god that's a good team hey team thank you for letting us be a part of this let's celebrate okay now Julius I think it's time to let the world know where you will be taking your football talent to next and congratulations on a phenomenal football career thus far to earn this day that you're about to have here thank you I'm first I want to thank everybody coming out here and thank my Lord Jesus Christ I won't be out here with him without him and he's a very set and I just want to thank all my coaches coach Lawrence coach Marcus my guys they're good people that turn me to be the man that I am right now and if it weren't for you guys I wouldn't be here my dog baby coach hope man thank you coach I love you coach Harry you guys I've done so much for me and I really can't can't I can't tell you how much I appreciate you guys and my family my dad my brother and my mom they're gonna back and I really appreciate everybody it's it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing and and I can't thank you guys enough for it.
1:06:36So I think we're all ready to hear where I'm going. All right? Let's get it. Yeah! Yeah! I think I'm ready. I'm ready to go. So for the next three years, I will be taking my talents, too.
1:06:55Hey, you're done. Hey, man. Hey!
1:06:59Pat McAfee:Just like you. Hey, baby. I love that. Florida Dame. Okay, obviously, dad legend at Notre Dame. Go look up the highlights. There's a plethora. And, you know, now they're starting to become quite a trend here, Julius. I believe Ryan Clark, his son, went there. Plexico, his son, went there. Jerome Bettis, his son, went there. Larry Fitz. There seems to be a lot of second-generation or third-generation NFL guys heading to Notre Dame. Julius Jones Jr., why'd you decide Notre Dame? Obviously, as a South Florida boy, I assume Miami would have been big for the neighborhood, big for the community. Why Notre Dame?
1:07:45Honestly, it's just the mystique of Notre Dame, and there's only one in the world. When I was up there, I felt it felt different from what they can do for me now to when I'm done with football and all the things and all the people around them. And I love that guy, and definitely some things going over there. Florida Dame. Got that fight line going on. Florida South Bend, homie. That's how we doing.
1:08:07Pat McAfee:Florida Dame.
1:08:12Pat McAfee:That's genius. You got to wear it. You better put some sunscreen. You better put some sunscreen on that little leprechaun. That thing's going to get fried down there, okay, if it is Florida Dame. Congratulations, Julius. Now, Julius, I don't know if you 100 % know everything. I think there might be something else that might have to happen here as well. I'm not 100 % sure. But Andre, do you have something to say about your brother heading to Notre Dame? What's up? No, man. I'm just, you know, my brother. No. But I got something to say, too. So, first, I want to thank my Lord. um you know without him i wouldn't do anything and uh i want to thank everybody out here as well but uh i think y 'all know what's gonna happen for the next year it's taking my time to university north dame as well
1:09:16Pat McAfee:on jay college class of 2028 number one safety and i don't think julius 100 knew that this was going to happen and his brother was going to commit right afterwards i think andre was super We're excited just to be like, yeah, I'll do it too if we're going in here. Julius Jones Sr., congratulations on two of your boys growing up to become Notre Dame fighting Irish. Kelly, great job momming the hell out of this. And the Florida Dame pipeline seemingly very, very real, Mr. Julius Jones Sr. Oh, man. Out of these two young men, me and my wife Kelly have poured everything we have into them. And a lot of times I get a lot of questions about where have you been?
1:09:59What are you doing? This is what it looks like when you pour everything into your kids It's very easy to raise them. They work their ass off and get good grades and stay out of trouble as much as you can down here itself, Florida Game is on the rise. We're gonna send you guys a shirt man. We love your show. Thank you for being a part of this With this man will always support you. Love you guys.
1:10:20Pat McAfee:Hey, we love you man. Congratulations to the entire family way to go Jones family We're going to play together. These are the guys for a 40 day. Okay. Let me go. All right. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Ladies and gentlemen, the Jones family. Yeah, Jones. That's awesome. Andre Jones, 2028 class safety, I think, would be the number one safety, whatever it is, if you were to do that. And then Julius Jones Jr., he is wide receiver, and it's everything. It is every route. It's unbelievable. And Julius Jones Sr. was a running back. And then Julius Jones Sr.'s brother, Thomas Jones, was also in the NFL.
1:11:07Mark Schlabach:Top 10 pick.
1:11:07Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're talking like multi-generations here. Did the Jones family ever give you any problems? Feels like that would have been similar years to your existence, AJ. Yeah, I've played against Thomas many times. He is one of the most jacked running backs there is. And obviously, Julius. Look how fast Julius is, for real. Luckily, that's against the Bears. That's not me missing the tackle right now, but it might be soon. I don't know what clip you have, Sean. I don't know what you have on deck. It's Andy Packard's one. No, we couldn't find you. Boy, we were looking. I will say that is something we were looking for.
1:11:33Pat McAfee:Tone is one with the AI of the film, which we're obviously very lucky for. But this one's the one. Hi. Two of his kids just committed to Notre Dame today. Congratulations to him. And I think it does make sense whenever you're watching a hotline. Yeah, it does. Okay, congrats to Jones family and to Notre Dame. Marcus Freeman's obviously got a lot going on. And congrats to him for doing that. I think this is a belief in him, right? Not only, obviously, the institution and the connections and the networking, but when Marcus Freeman talks to these NFL guys, I think they trust him and what he's saying and what he's doing.
1:12:03Pat McAfee:And, you know, we're trying to make men here, but also NFL dudes is what we're trying to do. Marcus Freeman seemingly has a lot of NFL guys buying in. Why is that, AJ, you think? I mean, I think he's authentic. Like, that's just who he is. And what a different kind of, like, energy he has brought to Notre Dame. I feel like since he's gotten there and then taken over the head job, Yeah, he just seems to be doing everything right. And it's never a bad thing to go out there and pluck people from South Florida. We know there is so much talent in South Florida all over the state. So, yeah, Florida Dame, that would make me feel pretty good, too, if I was Marcus Freeman and that staff.
1:12:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, if I'm a Notre Dame fan, hearing the Florida Dame start is a good idea. Yeah. That's a good idea. Because the issue with Notre Dame was can't keep up. Okay, can't keep up. Whenever push comes to shove, there's going to be a different level athlete on the field, and Notre Dame's not going to be able to keep up. And that kind of is what happened. Every time Notre Dame would get around late, they would get out-skilled, out-speed, out-everything on the side. Now it's kind of – Brian Kelly actually said it was the reason why he had to leave. Yep. Because he didn't think he could do it. Get down to LSU, able to get all the athletes in the world.
1:13:03Pat McAfee:Obviously, he's not there anymore. Still getting paid. I think he did okay. Yeah. But it was always the knock on Notre Dame. And now Notre Dame's just becoming a pipeline for second-generation guys. That's a beautiful thing. Joining us now is a man who I think his boy has probably already been offered a couple scholarships, both of them. And I, as a representative of West Virginia, would like to offer a couple scholarships already to this man's kids. Ladies and gentlemen, first ballot Hall of Famer, we think.
1:13:26Mark Schlabach:I mean, who knows anymore?
1:13:28Pat McAfee:I don't think anybody should be anymore. That's New England Patriots fan Bill Belichick tattoo on his arm, actually, as we chit-chat about that. Bullring of Honor member, ladies and gentlemen, the incomparable American hero, J.J. Watt. Yeah, J.J. What's going on? how are we doing are you eating the jams right you're eating the jobs yeah hey oh hey we're
1:13:52JJ Watt:multiple jams on deck brother welcome to the squad pat mcafee and boys hey we're all on the
1:13:58Pat McAfee:same team we're excited about it obviously sports business journal announces it this morning uh that i have joined the ownership team of uh of jobs i was so impressed okay listen first of all not bad little photo shoot me and bailey head pretty good not bad pretty good little promotional photo shoot me and bailey head uh this jams brand obviously came to the forefront nationally i think publicly because the nfl pa deal when adam schefter broke the deal because of how many peanut butter and jellies are eaten by nfl players and i had known the guy who started jams because he's been around the internet for a long time he's been hustling the shit out of this thing okay he's been hustling this thing he had jj involved he's got caleb involved he's got the back end involved he's got a factory we can make this we can keep up we got this uh we like where our products are we like the amount of protein we got in this thing he's pitching pitching pitching i got a lot on my plate okay so as we're doing this show shefter announces the nfl pa deal and i'm like the fucker did it i can't believe this kid is a never-ending machine this kid is a machine connor blakely's his name he's a machine this guy so i was excited to get on board obviously we chit-chat about it made an investment it's like i believe in it man they taste good and my daughter loves them as well jj and uh i think we're super excited being a pillar of society peanut butter and jelly uh business and i think it's we're gonna help carry the torch hopefully the next generation with this entire thing jj i'm super excited to be a part of it and obviously you being a part of it was a big
1:15:20JJ Watt:deal for us yes cannot keep them in stock in my own fridge it's uh they go out like crazy there's new products coming there's plenty of stuff like you said connor's a connor's a smart operator he does well and we're very excited to have you on board it's going to be it's peanut butter and jelly brother it goes down it's american as it gets it is america good protein oh yeah mama proof no seed oils no seed oils remember that came out of tennessee titans yeah bob
1:15:47Pat McAfee:solid i ain't doing seed oils no he's not don't worry don't worry bob you can have him in the facility good to go yeah see that is the thing that uh you know jage is super excited about and has been me as soon as i see they do an nfl pa deal i think to myself i know how many i eat just me and then that influenced me outside the building it's like these uh a little bit more
1:16:12JJ Watt:they go down at halftime like hotcakes yeah but these ones these ones taste delicious yeah like
1:16:18Pat McAfee:you're it is a it's an interesting thing so the fact that i'm even there's a reason we're out
1:16:23JJ Watt:selling competitors at large retail stores. There's a reason.
1:16:28Pat McAfee:Why is that, James?
1:16:29JJ Watt:They're better.
1:16:31Pat McAfee:They're better. James is
1:16:32JJ Watt:better.
1:16:33Pat McAfee:James is better. Change our entire lives when everybody's in the box field.
1:16:36JJ Watt:And there's no seed oils. I eat one every single day. Dude, it's been a long time since I've been on here. We've had a... I know. It's just good to see everybody. Can I get a shot of Connor? Let's see what he's... There he is. Good to see you, man. All right. All right. I'll just leave it at that. All right. All right. He looks good.
1:16:58Pat McAfee:This guy's walking incline treadmills over there in the Hawk House. Everybody's having a good time. No hands. How have you been? I've seen you've been saving the world with Freddy from Germany. You obviously take him in, treat him as a family member in Houston. That becomes a huge part of the story. Then NASA is obviously talking shit about you, maybe being cooler than you. All of this happens to a firefighter's kid. How has your offseason been? And it sounds pretty productive. And also, is life amazing right now, Jade? You look incredible.
1:17:26JJ Watt:I got to be honest. It is. It's pretty awesome. It's pretty unbelievable. I'm very fortunate. I got two young boys. We're having a blast. I get to do my work during the season and then during the offseason. I talked to Charles Barkley about this once when we were on the golf course. And I was like, Chuck, because I was trying to decide if I wanted to do the booth or not. And he was like, brother, I make so much money for a certain chunk of the year. and I get to talk about basketball. And then I have four months where I get to literally do anything that I want and fall off the face of the earth.
1:17:56JJ Watt:He's like, do you know how sweet and how special that is? He's like, everybody would kill to have the job that I have. Don't take something like that for granted. And Dan, he was right. This is awesome. I get to talk football in the fall. I get to go to games, sit on the 50 yard line and meet with all the players and coaches. And then the off season, I can do literally anything I want. Just some Turks and Caicos for a week with my wife. Wow. She's fantastic. Life is beautiful, brother.
1:18:20Pat McAfee:Wow, maybe another watt coming right down the pipe. We'll certainly keep an eye on the calendar. We'll certainly keep an eye on the calendar for all this. You've earned all this, by the way, so I'm happy you're kind of getting to reap the benefits of all of your hard work. If you were asked at any of the things that you do, you wouldn't be able to do this. So we appreciate the fact that you are a first ballot guy who wants to be involved in ball, and you don't suck as a human or as a personality. So good on you, Jage. Enjoy Perks and Kekos out there. Let it be, Jage. Okay, let's talk about something.
1:18:48JJ Watt:I'm happy to be here. I love being here. I've missed you guys. I'm looking forward to catching up. And I don't even know. I'm hoping I'm back this season, hoping we can keep it rolling. But for now, I'm just going to appreciate the moment.
1:19:00Pat McAfee:Okay, so let's make that announcement as well. Lock it in. Wednesdays presented by Joms. Obviously, it will be happening this football season. Thanks to Joms. Great to be with you, Jolly. Available for that coming back for another year. Shout out to Connor. Definitely being the one that has to figure that out. You can do that. Okay, let's talk about the NFL and some of its new stuff. There were some reports over the weekend. Huge weekend of sports. We'll certainly dive into that. There were some reports over the weekend about the new NFL and the Ref Association deal where if these refs are ass, if they put the ass in association, they could potentially get relegated to the UFL.
1:19:35Pat McAfee:I like anything that involves accountability. I like anything that has kind of consequences for actions. I like whenever there's a potential little bit of pressure to be good at what you do. I like this in theory. Do we think we're going to get the best officials that we've ever had in the NFL? And do you like where we're at as opposed to where we were a couple months ago, which was maybe replacement refs coming right down the pipe?
1:20:00JJ Watt:I do like anything that leads towards progress of a deal because we don't want to go through the replacement ref debacle once again. I do also like the accountability. I think one of the big things that we have to focus on is trying to find and make sure that we're incentivizing new officials to train and grow into their roles. Because if we're relegating officials to the UFL, which I do like that there's accountability, you have to make sure that you have a pipeline of people that can fill in and potentially do a better job. You don't want to just be bringing up somebody who's not nearly as qualified as you're knocking down somebody who failed at the top level.
1:20:37JJ Watt:So I think the pipeline of future referees is just as important in making sure there's incentives in there for them. But yes, I like promotion and relegation. Sometimes doesn't go your way, but I am generally a fan of the promotion relegation system.
1:20:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, promotion a lot more than the relegation part. Big fan. Yeah, especially if you got ownership. How are we doing, by the way? Is Burnley back?
1:21:01JJ Watt:Well, we're back in the championship. We're working through it right now, going through the managerial process. We'll have something there shortly, but Espanol did well, finished. La Liga was insane this year. La Liga was nuts, but Espanol did great. Looking forward to another season in La Liga this year. Who's on the short list of gaffers for Burnley? Go follow up. I mean, what do you want me to do here? I've heard Rombling's Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard is in the mix. There's no good way to go about this here. What do you mean we're a soccer show? It's closer than further away. It's closer than further away.
1:21:43JJ Watt:I would imagine we're working on it. But I would imagine.
1:21:46Pat McAfee:Probably end of summer, you think? End of summer, yeah. What deadline?
1:21:49JJ Watt:We're coming to your state. We're going to Cincinnati. We're going to Columbus. We are going to Salt Lake City. So, yes, we will absolutely, obviously, have something done before then.
1:22:00Pat McAfee:Okay, so you'll have a gaffer before the U.S. tour. Burnley coming to town to take on America. Are you playing the Pittsburgh Riverhounds? Or who are you?
1:22:08JJ Watt:We are playing Cincinnati, Columbus, and RSL, Salt Lake. No, we're not playing the Riverhounds. You guys scared us. No, too high and mighty. Smart. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Very nice stadium. It is. Thank you. Would have filled that place up. Thought it was AI. Thought it was AI.
1:22:26Pat McAfee:That's what the Riverhounds love.
1:22:28JJ Watt:Still kind of think it's AI. Still kind of think it's AI.
1:22:30Pat McAfee:No, real life. Could drop you in there. Maybe take Burnley there and get smacked around and maybe make you realize. They're adding a second deck. Yeah, exactly. We're adding more people. But more Zambelli fireworks, too, coming down. Tell Bill Cower that's AI. See what he does to you, J.J. Yeah, Bill Cower actually laid the hammer and the nail for all those fucking bleachers. So maybe you have a little bit more respect whenever you see him around the studio office there. A lot of respect.
1:22:51JJ Watt:A lot of respect for Bill.
1:22:52Pat McAfee:He's the greatest. A lot of respect.
1:22:54JJ Watt:I love Bill Cower. He is one of my favorite people on the planet.
1:22:57Pat McAfee:Ever.
1:22:59JJ Watt:He's the best.
1:23:00Pat McAfee:We got to hang out with him for like three days.
1:23:02JJ Watt:Are you guys at his house or something for the draft? Yeah.
1:23:04Pat McAfee:Dude, he is the man. Slept over. Obviously, he was our coach. He's the city's coach. Still is. He's still considered the city's coach. I don't know if he knew that before that particular trip back to Pittsburgh. I don't know how often he gets to go back and experience it the way we got to experience with him. But everybody in Pittsburgh looked at him like, Coach, hey, what do you think? I got to go this way. You got it. No problem. Everybody looked at him like he was a god. Yeah. It was incredible to be with him. And he just, obviously, the way he handled it all was perfect. He's a legend. Bill Cowher's a legend.
1:23:32JJ Watt:Yes. Coach is a hard spot to leave and have a legacy that's just 100 % unanimously people love you. Because a lot of times it runs its course and then you're at the end and people are pissed and they want you out. Pittsburgh, Coach Cowher, I mean, unless I'm misremembering, he is a god in that city.
1:23:50Pat McAfee:Yes, we got to experience it. I don't know if he has gotten to experience it as much as he should. Messi has missed a penalty kick. I saw that.
1:23:58JJ Watt:Oh. I saw that.
1:23:59Pat McAfee:Damn it, man. Again? He has taken seven World Cup penalties in his career. He's missed three of them. This guy just can't do it. He's got to work for it. It's too easy. Whose goat?
1:24:09JJ Watt:Mine.
1:24:10Pat McAfee:They need to have somebody else take him. It's too easy for him up there. Can't be doing it. He missed the whole net, I guess. Were his eyes closed? He tried to do the slow play, and it failed. Never worked. He tried to do this one? Just ripped the thing, yeah. He just kind of slow rolled him. Come on, Messi. That's not MLS soccer. That's not the way MLS plays. Back to his league of days. They did seem like he was over there playing against, like, the Espanols and stuff. This is the big leagues.
1:24:36JJ Watt:You putting it in? No doubt if you step in for a penalty right now in a World Cup match. Are you putting it in? Yes.
1:24:42Pat McAfee:I'm going right half of the net as hard as I possibly can. So it just depends on whether or not the goalie's going to go there. I've had the same technique my entire life, basically. I'm going right now.
1:24:49JJ Watt:Will your hip flexor survive?
1:24:51Pat McAfee:It doesn't have to. It doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter.
1:24:54JJ Watt:Yeah, one shot. One opportunity.
1:24:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, don't miss your chance to blow. There he comes once in a lifetime. Yo, you know, 80 % luck, 20 % skill. Now we're over 100, if you will.
1:25:06JJ Watt:You just switched songs mid-song there.
1:25:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, I saw your face bopping, and I thought about hard knocks. How could you not do that? Okay, let's move along here, all right? Okay, let's do it. What's next? Pumped to be part of Joms. Pumped about relegation for the refs if they're ass going down to the UFL.
1:25:22JJ Watt:AJ, were you part of that game, by the way? Yes, you were, correct? The Seattle game? Yeah, Phil Mary game, yeah. I was there. What was that like? It was ridiculous. So they had to kick the extra point, and we all left the field. We were in the locker room, had our shoulder pads off, and the ref came in and said, hey, I don't care what's going on. We need 11 guys to line up for this extra point that they need to kick. And guys said some very hurtful things to those couple referees that came in. It was a sight to see. It was awesome. I think I was one of the idiots that threw my shoulder pads on, unstrapped, and ran back out there with no gloves on and stood there for the dumb thing because I knew nobody else would.
1:25:57I was like, we're going to beat the hell out of these refs. in the locker room, that's going to be, you know, bad on top of bad after losing that game.
1:26:04Pat McAfee:If you had to talk to those refs that were a part of that, the replacement refs, like they got friends somewhere, right? They're stopping by some YMCA. They got friends somewhere, local bar. What do you think they say is the worst part of it all? Getting it wrong or walking in there and having to tell you guys, we need 11 bodies out there? Yeah. Because they heard us. We weren't quiet when we left the field. I know that much. Like nobody, coaches, players, trainers, everybody was not that quiet. And so it was tough to stay classy in that moment. No question. Who was loudest? Who was leading the brigade?
1:26:34Oh, my goodness. You know, the D-line usually seems to lead the brigade when it comes to the loudest. They were definitely very opinionated, and I appreciated them for that. I really do.
1:26:43Pat McAfee:Think about that ref. So scared. He was reffing high school football the year before. Down there in Texas where there's no jumbotron or maybe Louisiana. No jumbotron. What I say is final. Okay, I don't care what anybody has to say on here. Then he's got to walk in there. BJ Raji coming down his face to spray it at him. You're not happy. Me neither. I need you out there. I need you and ten others.
1:27:05Mark Schlabach:After the highest of highs too because it was in Seattle so you know the crowd in Seattle was going nuts and they were just you know thinking.
1:27:12Pat McAfee:Hey and then somebody from the league office calls and goes hey we need 11 all 11 out there. Need an extra point. What a time. Can't have that. Happy we're fixing the ref thing. Happy we're fixing the ref thing as we go. Hasn't been mentioned yet. I don't know if I've gotten your take or heard it yet. Huge trade in the NFL this offseason. Miles Garrett heads from Cleveland to the Los Angeles Rams. The Rams obviously draft Ty Simpson at number 13 overall. Everybody was super surprised. Then they lock in Matthew Stafford at a mega deal. Just an absolutely mega deal. What was the next play going to be?
1:27:41Pat McAfee:Were they going to bring in on the A.J. Brown deal? Are they going to trade in another wide receiver? What are they going to do? They signed Miles Garrett in a huge way. Get rid of Jared Verse to Cleveland. Verse can go ahead and become a great there in Cleveland, obviously, if he wins. Give up a first, second, and third round pick. Your thoughts, Jay? This is gigantic, and obviously, Needle did move whenever this trade was made on the sportsbooks.
1:28:02JJ Watt:Yeah, and rightfully so. I mean, this is unbelievable. It's a team who is already, I believe, favored to win the Super Bowl or, at minimum, compete for it, and then you add one of the best defensive players in the history of the game. It's incredible, and it's just what they're doing out there with their whole mentality around never satisfied and willing to give up picks for anything don't care about the picks at all um it's you have to respect it you have to appreciate it and it's they're going all in all the time and this it's going to be scary because he has always been playing from behind he has always been playing in games where in the fourth quarter teams are running out the clock to win the game and instead he's most likely going to be playing with a whole bunch of leads now, and he's going to have a chance to just tee off on quarterbacks in guaranteed pass rushing situations.
1:28:56JJ Watt:It's going to be a sight to see that defense is already good, and then you add one of the best players in the league, and you have the MVP on offense and everything they have with Sean McVay. It's a scary, scary team.
1:29:06Pat McAfee:Yeah, and it's built for the future as well as the present somehow. I don't know how Snead and McVay have been able to accomplish it, but they certainly have. Aaron Donald might come out of retirement. Your thoughts on that as a man who did dabble with potentially playing again after retiring and staying in shape? Because we see Aaron Donald, he's still in shape. You still in shape. But I feel like him and you potentially have a different view of what type of shape you need to be in to be able to play. Is it like a, I want to be able to dominate. I don't want to just look like I'm out there. Do you think that is a part of the entire decision for Aaron Donald?
1:29:37Pat McAfee:And was that for you as well?
1:29:39JJ Watt:I don't think he would have any problem with that. I think that he would dominate no matter what. I think the bigger question comes to longevity and how many plays you can play in a game throughout the course of a season. Everybody knows football conditioning is different than regular conditioning. And the only way you can truly get into football shape is by playing football. So early on, it would have to be some limited reps, some third down situations. Then as it went on, there would be more and more added to his plate. But also, you have to remember, we're talking about an absolute freak here.
1:30:10We're not talking about some regular one of the 53 or a practice squad guy.
1:30:15JJ Watt:We're talking about one of the greatest players in the history of the game. So I have no doubts that he would be able to step on the field and do some extraordinary things, especially when you've got that defense, you have Myles Garrett, and it's like, all right, who are you going to try and double team here? Where do you want to allocate your resources? You put those guys on opposite sides. Center can only slide one way. Running back can only chip one side. There's opportunity everywhere, and it opens up everything. I can completely understand why he'd be considering it, and I can completely understand why he might be salivating over that potential opportunity, especially with the Super Bowl, I believe, in their home stadium.
1:30:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, the Super Bowl is back in SoFi yet again. We know what happened the last time the Super Bowl was in SoFi and what the Rams did and what inevitably ended up happening. It's them winning the Super Bowl. Aaron Donald was very content whenever he retired. He said, I feel like I did good, took care of my money, I was smart with my money, I won, I think I did everything that needs to be done. and then you think to yourself, oh, man. Do a little two-year run here with Miles Garrett also there where there's sliding protection towards him and not towards me. And then maybe J.J. Watt comes out of retirement too.
1:31:20Oh, wow. Go undefeated?
1:31:21JJ Watt:No, that will not happen.
1:31:23Pat McAfee:Okay. All right. We just put that back.
1:31:25JJ Watt:I enjoyed the Turks and Caicos a lot. I would like to go back there.
1:31:29Pat McAfee:Yeah, it sounds like.
1:31:30JJ Watt:I'd like to go to places like that more often.
1:31:34Pat McAfee:Instead of less often. Yeah.
1:31:36JJ Watt:I don't want to get hit. I don't want to be studying the, you know, looking at myself getting cut off as a three technique and getting yelled at by a defensive line coach on a Tuesday at 6 a.m. You know, I want to wake up when I want to wake up.
1:31:51Pat McAfee:See my kids. Say, hey.
1:31:53JJ Watt:Dad was really good. Look at this highlight.
1:31:56Pat McAfee:That's unbelievable. This is your mom's highlight, too? She was unbelievable. She never lost. Me neither. Look at this. This is what it was like every day. You guys want to go to brunch? Got nothing but time here. and then your brother just in the middle of it every day of his life, trying to understand what a sound looks like, what it feels like. TJ's name has been a part of a lot of discussions. Pittsburgh, obviously in an interesting spot. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jage, and this is not taking a shot at the previous staff at all, but I have heard and seen that the vibes around the Steelers facility these days are immaculate.
1:32:28Everyone is very, very happy. They're expecting great things this upcoming season. What have you heard coming out of the new Steelers facility? And do you think that a new voice can be the difference in a team moving forward?
1:32:43JJ Watt:I mean, I think it's very similar. I think the vibes are great there. I think you always have to remember the vibes are always good in the offseason. That's how things go. But I do think it's good. I think that it's going to be very interesting to watch how this goes because of the history of Pittsburgh and the lack of turnover that there has been in the coaching regime. So anytime they're somewhat new, especially after 18 years or whatever it was, it is going to be a focal point to see how it goes. And everybody's going to be looking at every single thing in practice and training camp. How are they going to do things when they get to St.
1:33:16JJ Watt:Vincent's? How are they going to do all those traditions and things that have been a guarantee for so long? What does that look like now? What does the coaching style look like? How are practices set up? The meetings. Obviously, Mike Tomlin's one of the greatest motivators of all time. So just little things all the time. It's going to be very interesting to see how they translate. And then an offensive coach. How does an offensive coach work there with Aaron Rodgers, the history? Is that offense going to open up completely? Are there going to be more downfield throws? Is there going to be more crossing routes across the middle?
1:33:45JJ Watt:Is there going to be screens? What's that going to look like? Can't wait to see it.
1:33:50Pat McAfee:Jeffrey Simmons signs a massive deal down in Tennessee, you know, so Pittsburgh Steelers might be making a run at it. Are the Tennessee Titans going to be a football team? Yes. It feels like they might be. You got Salah. You got Dayball. Cam Ward, we all believe in his ability. Now, will he be able to settle into an offense? I think last year was a lot of run for his life and make plays that were incredible. I think he did a lot of that in Miami as well at the beginning. I think there was a lot of extend plays. Go ahead and make some magic happen. Cam is a magic man. But they extend and sign Jeffrey Simmons, who's obviously Tennessee Titans legend.
1:34:21Pat McAfee:I got a chance to see him in person down there at the Grand Ole Opry. And I taught him a couple things. I think Salo was kind of waiting to pay him. I think they didn't really know the Paisan in charge down there. I don't think if he knew. Borgonzia. Borgonzia. I don't know if he wanted to pay him. And then this night at the Grand Ole Opry, when I taught him with his hands, finally said, yeah, let's lock him in for the big deal. Your thoughts on AFC South legend, Jeffrey Simmons, and also my little hand work with him potentially being the real reason this whole thing came about, and I have yet to be thanked.
1:34:56JJ Watt:What do we got left hand there? what that's because you're doing hand work wall balance and drink what do we got in there it looks
1:35:03Pat McAfee:like well so i'm i'm telling him i'm hitting his front shoulder you know i'm telling him that as i'm getting in there i'm hitting his front shoulder and i think he literally just arrived had no idea that i was immediately gonna pop into this i don't even know if he knew who i was but i knew who he was okay he's been in the afc south for a long time this guy and he has a never-ending engine this guy never stops going he literally never stops going uh field goals punts you name it this guy never fucking stops so as soon as i see him turn a corner i know this guy so i immediately drop in the pass set and i'll let him know what i'm gonna do to him and then immediately without even saying anything he goes left hand bang and then i think he said right hand right to your face or something like that i was like whoa whoa but i don't know if he would ever thought of that move if it wasn't for me doing that fair and inevitably they end up paying him so i still think it deserves a little bit of uh conversation but can you tell me about him withstanding a bunch of different coaches now, a bunch of different regimes.
1:35:55Pat McAfee:He's kind of been a pillar down there. Why is that?
1:35:59JJ Watt:Not, I mean, because he's that good, because he is a culture setter, a leader, the way that he plays the game, the way that he opens things up for other guys on the defense because of the attention that he requires. He just does things the right way. And he is a phenomenal football player as well. Now, on the flip side of that, it's not fun to be the one pillar going through a bunch of coaches because that means your team hasn't been very good. And so hopefully he's finding stability there with Robert Sala, and hopefully they find a way to get something going. New stadium coming up. They've got Cam Ward.
1:36:31JJ Watt:They've got new uniforms. So we'll see how it goes. But there is definitely a man deserving of the contract he just got. Jeffrey Simmons plays the game very, very well at that defensive tackle position. Have a lot of respect.
1:36:43Pat McAfee:Quarterback and offense disruptors down there on the line are certainly getting paid these days in ball. I think that's only going to continue. Speaking of getting paid, Messi scored. Boom. Yeah, VNL. Boom. The penalty was just too simple.
1:36:58Mark Schlabach:Yeah.
1:36:58Pat McAfee:I don't like it, mate. He goes the other way. I don't like how great he – it was a filthy –
1:37:03Mark Schlabach:Was it? Okay. Touch of class, I presume. Yeah, ball coming in. Beautiful touch.
1:37:07Pat McAfee:Bends it around the goalie to the far side. Good ball. Just so casual. Just, well, let me go ahead and cook this thing. And he's so small. I don't know how he generates so much power. You know, there's so much power coming from those little legs. Big legs. He does. And the way Guerrilla describes it, everybody on that team is willing to kill the other team for Messi. That's a good spot to be in, J.H. That's what we like to do.
1:37:26JJ Watt:Very good spot to be in. Very, I mean, the guy is tiny. It's unbelievable. And he's the best player in the world. It's incredible.
1:37:33Pat McAfee:In the history of the world, too. We're watching it all. And hopefully that only continues. I think he just broke the goal-scoring record in the World Cup. So, congrats with him. If he gets an assist, he'll break that record as well, as we all kind of have World Cup fever. Last question for you here, coming from Ty, because I think we all saw a group of guys that would kill for you as well.
1:37:48Mark Schlabach:That's right, J. It's one of my favorite things is when you document your annual boys trip with your pals from high school where you kind of do the, hey, if one of us makes it, we all make it. Just curious, how did this go? Have you set any locales for the 17th annual? Oh, yeah. And also, I don't know if you've done it yet, but do you guys ever do like a, you know, you go to one of those really nice steakhouses and you stiff one of your buddies who didn't play in the NFL with like a bill for$100 ,000? Have you done that yet? And how great was this?
1:38:17JJ Watt:oh uh well first of all we're just merely trying to do what you guys do basically weekly i mean you guys do this every single week and it is the you guys are living the coolest life of all time but we do this once a year it started when i got drafted back in 2011 and it's just progressively gotten crazier and crazier i have not stuck anyone with a fake bill yet because we are generally genuinely talking like heart attack territory where we might lose a man if I slap down a hundred thousand dollar bill in front of him. So I can't risk that. As you can see, we've got various different levels of physical fitness in the group.
1:38:56JJ Watt:And there's a few that just couldn't handle that on their ticker. But it's going to be really tough to top New York City. We have done ireland we have done cabo we have kind of gone all over the place but new york city was this perfect mix because you could go out and walk the streets and pop in at any coffee shop or restaurant you could go to central park you could see the statue of liberty you could do it all but then we could also have the experience of the finest steakhouses in the world sushi and everything so we're trying to figure out next year and i am open to all suggestions for where does next year go from there?
1:39:34Pat McAfee:Vegas is really the only answer because we've had to be there for a lot of different events. WrestleMania was there back-to-back years for a reason, especially if there's a bunch of events happening, which our areas always shows. But we've been doing New York over the last couple months too, and it's like... New York's swinging a hot bat right now, dude.
1:39:48JJ Watt:Hot bat. And the thing I'll give New York, which this is crazy, because my buddy had never been there, and he was like, all I heard was how dirty and how there's homeless everywhere and everything. And he was like, it's been unbelievable. Clean, and everybody's happy, and everybody's doing good. And I've been there many, many times. I had to agree, and this was right before the Knicks won. And I was like, it has to be even better now because everybody's just in the jubilation. The place looks fantastic.
1:40:13Pat McAfee:We enjoyed the hell out of our times in New York. We'll continue to brainstorm with your money on where you need to take your friends to. Maybe the Maldives or something. Maybe go to Bali, maybe? Yeah, maybe go to Fiji.
1:40:25JJ Watt:Everybody's got kids. We got a five-day max.
1:40:29Pat McAfee:Australia! Go to Australia! You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, that's one of the... Shout out Linda Cohn.
1:40:37JJ Watt:I want to give Linda Cohn a quick shout out. Retiring from SportsCenter. Loved watching her her whole career. We agree.
1:40:44Pat McAfee:Linda Cohn, absolute dog.
1:40:45JJ Watt:As I turn into a blob here.
1:40:47Pat McAfee:That's because you're getting emotional about Linda Cohn. How could you not? We appreciate her. And I appreciate you saying, hey, before I get out of here, I'd like to thank Linda Cohn for her contributions to sport. That's real. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, that's JJ Watt. JJ! tage linda cone did we know that was happening i didn't know that yeah i didn't either she's a staple for forever yeah like berman linda like there's a couple names they're just like kind of i did some serious xm radio with linda cone back in the day too when i was doing different sports shows i like she was the host a few times of different things i'm doing she's awesome i couldn't even fathom the amount of titles that have probably been thrown her way trailblazer i couldn't even imagine the glass ceilings like all those types of conversations that happen in sports media all the time for how long linda cohn has been doing it like the level in which she's doing it think about all the uncomfortable conversations that have had to happen right oh yeah the things that have been said probably to her both to her face and behind her back about why or what it's like just continue to do this and just kind of love sport massive respect to linda cohn yeah massive respect but i didn't know this was happening i had no idea i think someone
1:41:48Mark Schlabach:did like maybe just mention it in passing out there like last week but i didn't know when or anything like that and she actually a couple times when we were on uh serious and we had to either like take a day off or you know you had something going on so we didn't do the show i believe she filled in and she wasn't guest hosting the show but she got that time slot so you know kind of two two ships passing in the night if you will linda congrats you did it where you go linda
1:42:12Pat McAfee:i mean jj just stopped this hey hold on don't kick me off you before you guys kick me off can we thank linda cohen please it's like yeah absolutely we can do that you know what else we can thank all these sports that have kept us captivated over the off season of this entire thing you know there's been obviously incredible storylines through soccer there's been incredible storylines through basketball there's been incredible storylines through hockey yeah and there's also been incredible storylines through college baseball ladies and gentlemen the man that was the head coach is that what you guys call it what the fuck do you guys call it yeah The head manager.
1:42:47Pat McAfee:Skipper. Skip. The skipper of the team in which we all followed all the way to Omaha for the first time and throughout the College Baseball World Series, ending in the semifinals against UNC, who will be taking on Oklahoma for the national championship tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, head skipper for the West Virginia baseball team, Steve Sabans. Yeah, Steve. What's going on, guys? Thanks for having me. Hold on. You got one of those super-duper high-tech iPads. It's going to trace your head. we got to kind of balance you in there you just gotta don't move much yeah yeah there you go yeah you can find it you'll be able to dodge duck dip dive and dodge your way through it first of all congratulations on a great season congratulations on a great season that was a fun run what did you learn about your team what did you learn about the west virginia program and how exhilarating and exciting is the future now after what you saw just happen this past season it was sick you're just doing it you're with those kids every day right we played ended up playing over 60 games So when you play that many games and you go through that much competition, you just end up like loving those kids.
1:43:45You see them more than you see your family. So it was just a blast to get to see them achieve at the highest level. And we knew we were capable of that. We've been to three consecutive Super Regionals. We won a couple of Big 12 titles here in the last few years. But to see those kids perform at their best on the biggest stage, it fires you up because you're like, that's what we prepare for. That's why we go to work every day.
1:44:05Pat McAfee:OK, so I love to hear that. I also enjoyed learning the story of West Virginia baseball. Whenever I was in school there, it wasn't really a conversation. Obviously, it wasn't much of a thought. For over 100 years, I guess, it really wasn't a conversation until Mazie comes in, and then I think he rallies Kendricks too, right, and says, hey, I got some ideas on what can become here. And all of a sudden, state-of-the-art facility, all of a sudden we got a brand-new stadium that has 4 ,500 people. It's set up perfectly, and we got investment in some players. Is that what it really was over the last, like, 10, 15 years?
1:44:32Pat McAfee:How do we get to this point with West Virginia baseball? and how many schools are going to be capable of doing this, if that makes sense? Because in football, we're kind of seeing who's in and who's not. Is baseball kind of a similar situation? It's absolutely a similar situation. Probably the most unique opportunity in baseball is just the fact that it doesn't take as much cash in order to do it. So you go have a great stadium, you invest in NIL, you get rev share in the right spot. I think West Virginia is unique because we're the New York Yankees at West Virginia, right? It's so passionate.
1:45:04So when people come here, they feel it, they know it, and people are looking for development. So there's no shortcuts in this thing. What we've done better than anybody in the country is develop players faster. We didn't always have five-star recruits when I got here. They hadn't been to the NCAA tournament in 20 years. And so to fast track and go from not even being in the conversation for 20 years to playing in Omaha, that's a pretty short decade, man. That thing went quick. And so for us to be able to do that, it was investment. It was passion. It was work ethic. It was Coach Mazey's vision.
1:45:33and then a whole bunch of staff outworking people and a bunch of players that believed.
1:45:37Pat McAfee:You were on the staff, then you become the head coach after Mazie retires. We appreciate his contributions. We obviously appreciate the fact that you were the guy that took over the clubhouse in this entire thing. And shout out to Kendricks, Arizona Diamondbacks owner, West Virginia legend. He wanted the baseball team to succeed. I believe Oliver Luck also helped say, hey, I think our baseball team should succeed and kind of the investments in a big way. That was a fun run. Now let's talk about the future for you guys before we turn to tonight. Go ahead, Ty.
1:46:01Mark Schlabach:Yeah, Coach, anytime a team goes on a run like this, I think you always hear, like, oh, they've arrived, and then we expect them to kind of be around. But making a run this deep into Omaha, like, what does that realistically do for the program over the next, you know, three to five years? Like, do you firmly believe now that you guys can recruit on the same level as a lot of these SEC schools? Or, like, what does this actually do for you guys moving forward? It does everything. We've been on kind of the best kept secret in college baseball. So if you're a baseball player, if you're in this arena, if you're an amateur coach, if you work with select players, you know about West Virginia baseball.
1:46:39Only us in North Carolina have been to three consecutive super regionals. So the consistency of winning has been elite at West Virginia. But we hadn't been to Omaha. First time in program history to ever get to Omaha. So I was always selling the hell out of this place to recruit saying, hey, we're going to do things that have never been done in program history before. And that was really easy 10 years ago when we hadn't been to a regional. We're going to do things that have never been done. Win a Big 12 title. We're going to go to a regional for the first time in 20 years. Our first super regional.
1:47:10We're going to host for the first time since 1965. I'm starting to run out of shit to say, really. But pretty soon, you've got to go win a national title, right? So this program hasn't done that. So we firmly believe that we're capable of doing that here. And everywhere's got obstacles. You guys know, like every school, there's more money. There's more whatever. but everywhere has got their issues. And so what we got is unbelievable facilities, beautiful people, the best fan base in the country, and really good recruiting around this area. West Virginia is not exactly ripe for recruiting. There's not enough folks here, right?
1:47:43It's 1.8 million people in the whole state. And you look at some of these other schools, there's more people in that metro area than us. So we got our challenges, but everyone's kind of got their deal. But if you're looking to get better and you're looking to win with the best culture and the best staff and the best developmental resources in the country this is the spot this is just flat out the spot and so the baseball people know but we're starting to be a little bit more on that national stage and when you get on that all of a sudden it kind of opens up the window to new recruits and we got a recruit coming in literally today we got some guys from across the country that maybe we didn't have access to before and so we got to sign those guys
1:48:19Pat McAfee:we got to lock those dudes up they're gonna love morgantown okay so i can't wait for them to fall in love with the city. I can't wait for them to fall in love with your program. And I appreciate the fact that you're saying you're running out of things to lie about. You can't even tell them like, hey, you might be the first guy to like steal home in World Series. That was insane. Guzman's a dog. Your team is filled with all. It was awesome to watch you guys play. Now, you lose the UNC, obviously, who is an incredible team. They played tonight for the National Championship. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, kind of a tale of two stories between these two teams.
1:48:50Obviously, you do know UNC while playing them twice at Omaha. And they were great. They were great all season long. I think they were like 52 and 13 or something like that. And then Oklahoma on the other side, they were under.500 in SEC play. They had a great record overall, but in SEC play, I think they were like 11th. So they just got hot at the right time. What do we need to know about these two teams tonight? Yeah, both nasty teams, both really good. North Carolina, the top of their order has just been good. So one through four has carried those dudes. Last game, I think five through nine had two hits.
1:49:23They hadn't been quite as tough. North Carolina probably has the edge with pitching right now. They're kind of interesting case. North Carolina has thrown six guys basically for the last month. So the same dudes are getting the ball basically every game. There's a kid named Glauber who's 29 and 0 when he touches the mound. So kind of unheard of. This kid's a freak show. He's 17 years old. So he should be in high school. He turned down his senior year in high school to come to North Carolina, and he's just been shoving ever since.
1:49:55Pat McAfee:97, right? He's throwing 97-98 against us. I remember that kid coming in. I thought it was such an aggressive decision for them to put this true freshman in in the ninth of that game in semifinals of the World Series, and then he just goes 97-97-97. I mean, he was unbelievable. He's been like that all year, I guess, as a 17-year-old. but I didn't know that was possible in baseball. Insane. Totally insane. And I kind of got the X factor today. It's interesting. I don't know if you saw a 6 p.m. game out there, Pat, but, like, the shadows are wacky. And left-handed pitching, that left-handed arm basically comes out of the crowd, section 131.
1:50:35You can't see anything at the plate if you have a lefty up there. So they've got a kid named Jackson Rose that I think probably ends up starting for them. And so that could be kind of a difference maker. Your OU's lineup's really deep. They're probably deeper one through nine. They're going to start a freshman today. OU will. Kid named Weslowski. But they've started a freshman literally every game of Omaha. So that's another one of those anomaly deals that you just never see. And so you're going to see if a freshman can step foot on the mound in the biggest game that you could possibly be in. And then their bullpen's a little bit lighter.
1:51:10They'll go to their bullpen quick, though. LJ Mercurius and Jackson Cleveland probably get the ball there in a hurry. But it's a nasty matchup today. I'm excited to see it.
1:51:19Pat McAfee:Thank you for breaking that down for us. Honestly, I feel like I just learned everything I need to know before game three of three tonight for the College World Series. This is the head coach of the West Virginia Mountaineer baseball team, the head manager. What am I supposed to call you? I think you got it right, head skipper. Boom. Boom. Got a baby skip. That baby skip. This is the head skipper. There's a co-skipper. There's an assistant skipper. This is the fucking head skipper, ladies and gentlemen. Steve Sabans. Thank you, buddy. Yeah, go.
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1:52:51Pat McAfee:That was a great breakdown. I'm not even saying he's muted. Pump for that game. He's muted. We can't hear you, Steve. You waste a good promo right there, I think. I think he's probably thanking me and us for coming along. He did that a lot. He ran over to us a couple different games to be like, hey, what's up and thank you. He reached out to me afterwards. You know, he was like appreciative of that entire thing. It was fun. Almost awesome. That was a fun run. Yeah, like the baseball itself is sweet. Like it's a whole city dedicated to the baseball. Yeah, and there's like little festivals in a bunch of different corners.
1:53:19Pat McAfee:It was vastly different. Streets closed. Yeah, it was vastly different than like Indianapolis as a hosting city. Yes. Vastly different than Indianapolis as a hosting city. But you could tell the entire city's all in on the World Series of Baseball, which I appreciate, AJ. Was everything like condensed? Like, you know, could you walk to most everything going on? Yeah, it was tight. But there was also like little, like places like rent out spots and then it becomes like a little festival. stages and then you go to like another there's like a little festival over here there's like a little festival over here then there's a huge tent over here and it's like we were there the night before it all started so i don't think it was really cranking until maybe the weekend or whatever i wonder if you're able to just walk into those you have to have tickets to those i don't know kind of how it goes but it looked like it was ready for a good time yeah it certainly looked
1:54:02Mark Schlabach:like that yeah i don't know how much it's changed because like i said the going back this year was the first time i've been in a long time but usually it is just a massive party and you have the you know eight different teams fan bases and then people who just love college baseball kind of
1:54:15Pat McAfee:just mingling together yeah i enjoyed the hell out of all of that uh we will continue digitally as sports center takes over here on espn that's aj hawk telling all of you i don't know have a good one well said okay well done i'm getting teary-eyed back tomorrow you think people think we're serious there i got pretty emotional there with what you said. That was really good. Thank you. I do well. I do well and put on the spot. They'll talk about the greatest speeches that have ever been done. And that one will be right there at the top.
1:54:51Mark Schlabach:Top five. Yeah. Abraham Lincoln. Gettysburg Address.
1:54:56Pat McAfee:When I was down at Parris Island, they have a... Sergeant Major, a speech from Iraq, I think. I don't know if it was Sergeant Major. I don't know what level. High up, SIG, group of lads around, gave this speech and it was like, actually, we're going to war tomorrow. Like, hey, this is actually what this is and how you'll be remembered and all this stuff. And I was like, damn, like that speech should be like shown. The only speeches we really get are if they're very terrible or incredibly good. Is that kind of how it goes? Yeah. Coaches are all kind of giving the same speeches, right? It's just in the delivery of how it goes.
1:55:41Pat McAfee:You give your speeches a little differently. You're a little shorter, a little bit more condensed. Yeah, a little shorter. But like those war speeches, some of those war speeches that are given that we probably – That's real. That's like, yeah, those guys are hanging on everywhere. That can actually make a difference too. There's a movie that just kind of, I think, came out a couple weeks ago, but it's out on Apple TV. It's called Pressure, and it's about the guy who had to basically give Eisenhower the forecast for D-Day and deciding when it was going to go. And they show in there Eisenhower's speech before they go, and then he also writes two speeches for if they were successful on D-Day and if they weren't successful on D-Day for the next day.
1:56:21so they also sometimes write two of them to be prepared like hey if we lose this is all on me. Somebody's going to have to talk here
1:56:29Pat McAfee:yeah it is AJ thank you for delivering like that because that's what we're talking about talking about Eisenhower in Iraq. Yeah exactly. Brendan Fraser right? Is that Brendan Fraser con man? Yeah it just came out it's really good. That's awesome. A lot of good movie. Toy Story people are saying. It was awesome. Disclosure I took my son to see Disclosure you know lay back seats I didn't fall asleep you know I normally take a 30-40 minute nap in those movies. It was very good. It's a Spielberg situation. Okay, so...
1:56:55Mark Schlabach:First person who said that. Yeah, hold on.
1:56:56Pat McAfee:I have a theory on this. Yeah, I have no idea what anyone else is saying about it, but I enjoyed it. Okay, I have a theory on this. You're not really big into the alien stuff though, right? Until I'm confronted with one face-to-face, I don't really care. No, but I'm saying, I think a lot of people think that... I'm sick of videos. I'm sick of videos from seven miles away. They don't move like that. I know they don't. Cool, what is it? I'm with you. I understand where you're coming from. We have nothing that can move like this. It goes underwater. That is very true. But still, what the hell is that?
1:57:27I can't sit here and make it my identity to talk about that. I believe something's going on.
1:57:35Pat McAfee:Okay, because then that kind of debunks my theory. Because I am a very open-minded person when it comes to this. I try to learn as much as possible. you know the tic-tac video uh what long before i've been trying to know as much spots because i would like to meet one of these things i was a person i looked up at stars and moon as a child at night because i couldn't sleep and i just wondered like what was happening so i am very invested in but a lot of the internet that i read that is very invested in this said they were super corny and fucking because they started believing that spielberg was doing the duty of the government to basically desensitize oh yeah i i thought all of that i'm sorry i thought all of that.
1:58:10I just thought Emily Blunt, John Krasinski's wife, she's a great actor. She was funny. She was manic. She was very, very good. I appreciated the performance from Emily Blunt. That's the biggest thing I took away from that movie. She learned four languages for that, I believe.
1:58:24Pat McAfee:Okay. I appreciate her doing that, her commitment to her craft and her level of thespian that you will take time to say, hey, the whole movie was good. But a lot of the alien people think it's super corny and maybe a little bit cartoonish on what it actually Does that make sense? Yeah, I can see that. You've seen it. I haven't seen it. Do you think that? Do you think it's cartoonish? Does it muck? Yeah, I can see that. I was also like, you know, movies, you got to be in them, right? It was just sometimes you're in the mood to see a movie. You're in the mood to be entertained. I very much was that night when I was watching it with my son.
1:58:54Pat McAfee:I'm 100 % going to watch it. And getting back to the movie theater is something cool. I'm happy we're doing that again. Some big ones. I'm happy people are going back to the movie theater. It's good to do community. It's good to see it like that. And also, it's good to get out. It's something to do.
1:59:09Yeah. The Odyssey's coming. Can't wait for that. Toy Story Live? What do you mean? No, like at the theater. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. It's going to break all the records, I assume. $170 million, I believe, it got opening. We'll see. I just saw Super Mario Brothers Galaxy, that thing, but it made like a billion dollars worldwide.
1:59:30Pat McAfee:I'm happy we're all getting out and doing stuff. You know? Like, I got a chance to see MGK this weekend. first time I really got a chance to chat with him that wasn't on air or on the internet he was in town with Wiz Khalifa and Maude's son and they sold out to Ruoff 24 ,000 people oh on Saturday? yeah it's the biggest they've had all year 24 ,000 and they sold out they could have done more it does feel like if you're talented obviously Toy Story is a great movie so people believe that Wiz and MGK and that entire bunch they're going to put on a good show. Everybody knows that they're going to put on a good show.
2:00:09Pat McAfee:So they go. But I think people are in a state of mind where we want to go do stuff now, which I like. I'm a big fan of that. AJ, I'm a big, big fan of that. Yeah. I mean, look at the world, like everything. People want to get together and they want to have something to do. It's true. Like that will always be, I think that's only going to grow like as the more digital stuff and the garbage AI, you're not really sure what's right or what's wrong. Yeah. It's good. No matter how much of a recluse you might be, it is good to be around other humans. Yeah. And experience things We're an experiential species.
2:00:37Pat McAfee:That's right. And I feel like we're having a lot of them, which is a beautiful thing. Brady Kachuk has been traded from the Ottawa Senators to the Florida Panthers to join his brother in the multiple times Stanley Cup Chomps. Hell yeah. Wow. Now, you know, in the Mighty Ducks, the Bash Brothers were certainly problematic. Oh, yeah. For everybody else, they would actually go on the ice looking to beat people up. They put their bandanas on. They die them. They do the entire thing. And that's kind of what we grew up understanding the hockey culture as. The Kachuk brothers, with Big Walt as a dad, actually are the Bash brothers.
2:01:07Pat McAfee:I mean, these guys are physical on the ice, tone setters on the ice, and they will beat the shit out of you, both of them. So now they're both down there with Marchand, who is known as one of the greatest pest roles in history. And I'll tell you, I love the move for the Panthers. I like the fact that they're seemingly going all in again. I like the fact that the Panthers are bringing the Kachuk brothers together so we can have good podcasts, too. That's right. I saw some people say they should be called the Florida Podcasters, not the Florida Panthers because they got both Kachuk brothers down there.
2:01:42Pat McAfee:But I love this move. I appreciate NHL making this move. And is McJesus next and Halibut next? You know, because we got Brady Kachuk out of Canada. Okay? Brings him down to an American franchise. You need to get Matthews out there, too. Yeah, that's the one. Halibut. Need to get him down into an American. Austin out of Toronto because they're going to run him out of town and say he's a punk in that entire thing. I like that. I do assume that Ottawa is not happy about this. I assume he was a big piece of the puzzle up there. I know Florida Panthers fans pumped about this. This very rarely happens in hockey.
2:02:16No, and my algorithm didn't feed me a ton of Ottawa centers, so I'm not sure how they were. But, I mean, they were very good, and Brady's your captain and got you to the playoffs as far as they did. Now they ran into an absolute wagon in the playoffs. but Brady being your leader and your captain. And then I saw, yes, I saw how awesome and how happy the Panthers fans were. But I didn't see how Ottawa was, to be honest.
2:02:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, me neither. Didn't see much of that reaction. And shout out to the Sens, obviously. Appreciate what you're doing. Brady Kachuk was not the captain of Team USA. But if you recall, there's a lot of videos coming out of him being the captain of Team USA. The Kachuk brothers will be joining us tomorrow at 1230. Okay. Boom. Can't wait to catch up with them. We'll also be joined by, I believe, Wyndham Clark. Okay. Okay. Big day. I believe tomorrow we'll be joined by Wyndham Clark. That should be a fun time. And we believe there will be a lot of things to chitchat about as the world continues to cook.
2:03:07Pat McAfee:I see Thamel on TV right now. Talking dusty. Is that what it is? And he's talking about the interim coach at Michigan? That's crazy, by the way. What a weird timing. The timing. It's crazy. Yeah, timing's weird. Three coaches in the history have won Natties and then gone pro, and it's like two of them coming out of Michigan in the last couple years. Now, the Harbaugh situation obviously vastly different, but him going to the Chargers with Justin Herbert felt like for him it was the golden goose is how he described it, especially with the brand-new practice facility and ownership and everything like that happening with the L.A.
2:03:40Pat McAfee:Chargers. But still, win a national championship, get to the top, create a juggernaut, and then all of a sudden you leave. And then Dusty May from Michigan, it was like he – I think he set the standard on what it was going to be, who they're looking for, how they're looking for, how the team's going to operate. and they became champs very quickly in doing as such. Started out as, what, an equipment manager for Indiana, and now all of a sudden becomes head coach of Michigan, wins the national championship. And very early in his career, I think we're all just kind of learning about him, thought he was for sure going to walk in with Michigan and this was going to be the next 20 years, like Bayheim and Syracuse.
2:04:10Pat McAfee:You name it, I thought this was what it was going to be. Instead, he goes to Cooper Flag and Dallas Mavericks. That feels like a big deal. Huge deal. That feels like a very big deal for Michigan. Like what happened in there? Because from my understanding, Michigan doesn't have a lack of funds. No. So is it the funds? What I was reading, I think it was Pete maybe on ESPN.com, but it was basically like, hey, I have an opportunity to go to the NBA, kind of like the Tennessee Volunteers coach who went and coached the Giants for the MLB. Like, hey, the highest of basketball is calling. It's something that I have to do.
2:04:42And, yes, with Cooper Flagg, it's hell of an incentive with that type of player to be there. I know they also – it was reported that they were looking at Shire too, but he decided to stay. But, yeah, I think it's a situation where it's like nothing to do with money or anything like that. It's just the NBA's calling something I need to do. And we know what the NBA coach is like. Once you get in there, if you have a little bit of success, you're going to just get cycled through. Like he could now probably coach in the NBA, whether it's for the Mavericks or other teams for 10, 15 years at least because of the success he could have.
2:05:11And he might end up drafting the Axel Lundenberg in the first round.
2:05:14Pat McAfee:And he might also be able to have a college basketball coaching job whenever he wants.
2:05:18Mark Schlabach:Yes, definitely.
2:05:19Pat McAfee:Just like the guy that went to the Giants in baseball. right?
2:05:21Mark Schlabach:Yeah, yeah, and I guess that would be the idea, but like Foxy and I were talking about this earlier as someone who went to a Big Ten school and watched a shitload of, watches a shitload of Big Ten basketball. It still is kind of, like I understand he said like the allure of being able to coach Cooper Flagg kind of drew him away, but like he had it made at Michigan. Like the money is probably very similar and it was looking like it could have been like, oh, Michigan could win, they could win three national championships in the next five years. I guess I understand it, but that's the thing. He's never going to get fired at Michigan, ever.
2:05:56Mark Schlabach:You have the type of year he had, unless things got really bad, but he had as good of job security as anyone in the nation. We've kind of seen the way things have been with the management and the ownership in Dallas. If they have a bad year, who's to say that they won't fire him? The NBA is much different in that regard.
2:06:15Pat McAfee:And they just had a terrible year.
2:06:16Mark Schlabach:Exactly.
2:06:16Pat McAfee:And they had the rookie of the year.
2:06:17Mark Schlabach:Exactly.
2:06:19Pat McAfee:Dusty May I'm sure you guys are happy down in a Buckeye State that Dusty May's heading out of town aren't you? Sure I guess I mean I'm not surprised I think the money is different I think he was getting paid 5 million dollars in Michigan he's getting upwards of 10 I believe with Dallas or that's a rumor from what I hear which that's not the reason you do it but look around the college landscape of all college sports if you have a good opportunity to go to the pros a lot of these college coaches are waiting for that opportunity they want to go just because we know like how it's just different It's different coaching in college right now.
2:06:50Also, Dusty May probably realizes, like, man, that was really, really hard. A lot of things had to go our way. We had to do everything right to win a national championship. What are the odds that I'd do that again in the next three to five years?
2:07:01Pat McAfee:Well, I need to think, and with the recruiting process and understanding the process and who your team is and who is going to recruit for your team, that if you create a winning culture, you'll be able to hold on to the winning culture. But I guess the pressure of winning again now becomes the immediate, is what AJ's saying. And we think Michigan would have been able to match the money regardless if they wanted to do anything. We assume that is the case. I guess the NBA is a different level of everything in there. Go ahead.
2:07:22Mark Schlabach:But that's what, like, Shams mentioned that too. Like, we know about the way college basketball is right now. Like, I don't think that really applies to this situation. I'm not saying it wasn't hard for what he did, but, like, they won the national championship because of the way college basketball is now. He went out and got a bunch of transfers. They were able to pay guys. Like, so he used it to his advantage, and I guess maybe that is part of it. You don't want to have to fucking do that every single year where it's like, okay, I got all these guys leaving. and now I've got to turn around and do it all again.
2:07:49Mark Schlabach:So who knows? I mean, we'll see. Like you said, if it does not go well for the Mavericks, there's a good chance that he's back in one of the best jobs in college basketball in a few years.
2:08:00Pat McAfee:Congrats to Dusty May. Congrats to Dallas. What's going on up in Michigan? We shall see. We assume they will reload. Did you guys see Banana Ball this weekend? I saw some internet stuff from Banana Ball. Did you see Banana Ball this weekend? I saw Adam Dunn, unbelievable, Cincinnati Red. I believe he may have struck out. He just did that for the show. Okay. He meant to do that. I didn't know that happened. Adam Dunn, he is an incredible. You can fuck around and get embarrassed out there, though, with those Savannah Bananas and also the party animals. I don't know if you saw. They had special guest party animals for the weekend.
2:08:32Pat McAfee:Jackass Steve-O was out there blowing fire. Okay, give me Bacardi 151. Let me go ahead and burn my nostrils as a sober man at this point. Used to do this all the time in the past. I would drink it a little bit. Let me go ahead and spit some fire for you. Johnny Knoxville brought out the greatest hits. He goes ahead and stands right over top of home plate and says, drill me right in the chest and or the sack. You do what you have to do. And I appreciate the fact that Johnny Knoxville is still literally eating the fastball. Which is what jackass football has been all about. Why would you stand in the batter's box when you could stand in both batter's boxes?
2:09:06Pat McAfee:Says Johnny Knoxville as he squares up completely to the pitcher. Catcher directly underneath. Let's go ahead and see how this goes. and pitcher who probably played college ball somewhere throws an absolute strike right at his hands and his chest. Johnny Knoxville, per Johnny Knoxville, eats it. That's on base, baby. That's on base. Listen, you need guys like that on your team. And Johnny Knoxville's still doing it at this age after I think he's already blown out literally every organ and bone in his body. We can't help but say thank you, Johnny. Thank you, Johnny. And I'll tell you what, if the Pirates want to lose every single game that Paul Skeens is pitching, Let's just let Johnny Knoxville on the fucking diamond.
2:09:44Mark Schlabach:Sure.
2:09:45Pat McAfee:Let's let him play.
2:09:46Mark Schlabach:Well, and he posted on his Instagram not too long ago. I believe Johnny Knoxville is actually an exceptional baseball player in high school. And his son is a very good baseball player. So he actually has the baseball chops.
2:09:58Pat McAfee:And Steve-O was on fire. I didn't see the tail end of this one. But I do appreciate the fact that Steve-O outred. Yeah, that's a jackass and Savannah Banana Baseball coming together. We love it. Congratulations. Congratulations. We're not too far out from MLB All-Star.
2:10:13Mark Schlabach:No, right around the corner.
2:10:14Pat McAfee:In Philadelphia. Then, you know, they have the Home Run Derby on Monday, the All-Star game on Wednesday. Then I think Wednesday is ESPYs in New York. So that's quite a little East Coast run there as it starts. New format for the Home Run Derby. Obviously, we are massive fans of the Home Run Derby. Even before I got into baseball and started learning about baseball, I was a fan of the Home Run Derby. The Home Run Derby is just everything we want to see. I mean, this is, we like to see the boys compete. We like to see big dongs, and we like to see people go crazy. The Home Run Derby, every single year, delivered.
2:10:51Pat McAfee:And last year, we got a chance to be live from the Big Dong Derby. We got a chance to be a part of the Big Dong Derby. And this year, they're changing the format so we can watch the Big Dongs as they exit the stadium. Because with the new rules that they had last year, with the timing, they were just trying to rapid-fire hit. So we had to see the beginning of hits, not the tail end of hits, when what we want to see is a 495-foot Big Dong in Big Dong City, Philadelphia. That's what we want to see. They're doing that. Ty, your thoughts on the new format for the Home Run Derby and what we'll probably see over there in Philadelphia?
2:11:25Mark Schlabach:I hope that's the case. I hope that they are going to basically not say that you can't pitch, but that is what it turned into. The year Bryce Harper won it a couple years ago and his dad was pitching to him, everyone was bitching about it because that was supposed to be a rule. Hey, you can't throw your next pitch until the ball lands in the outfield, probably for the broadcast, because otherwise it's just they're cutting back and forth and you don't know what the hell is going on, and it kind of diminishes what the event is. We'll see. What? I thought this was a good thing. We'll see in this thing?
2:12:01Mark Schlabach:It's good they're getting rid of the timer. I agree. It's good they're getting rid of the timer. My concern is they need – and it's never going to happen again just because guys do get hurt. There's proof that you can't – teams don't want their best players going out there and swinging.
2:12:18Pat McAfee:What about Schwarber and Harper over there in Philadelphia may be a part of it.
2:12:22Mark Schlabach:Yeah, I don't think either one of those guys will be in it. I think it's kind of skewing more – maybe Schwarber, maybe. That would be awesome. But I think it's skewing more towards these younger guys who are kind of turning into power hitters, who teams are more okay with, like, you know, especially that point in the season, if a guy's been hurt at all, like, it's just not going to happen. So, I mean, we got lucky last year. You know, Cal Raleigh was in his, like, crazy run, and then he put on a hell of a show with Junior Caminero and hit a bunch of homers. So I like that they're getting rid of the clock because that was just kind of – I don't think that kind of served the purpose.
2:12:57Mark Schlabach:So we'll see what the 20 swings thing does. I worry, the only thing that I worry about is when you're doing this, like outs is okay, you know, but I don't know. We'll see.
2:13:07Pat McAfee:I just hope it's, I hope it's seemingly indifferent with a little bit of pessimism on the concept as a whole. A little bit. It's going to be a long ass night, right?
2:13:15Mark Schlabach:Certainly.
2:13:16Pat McAfee:This is going to be really long depending upon how many participants there are, 20 swings, so they can look at a lot of pitches if they'd want. Right. So it takes the pressure off the pitcher, which I'm happy about. Yeah. I always get so scared for the fucking pitcher, man. Get dropped into a home run derby championship showdown with a fucking MLB Hall of Famer. And why are you there? Because this kid just so happened to be from your high school. So you happen to be his high school coach. And now we're betting on this guy to deliver strikes for somebody to win a home run derby. It always made me very nervous.
2:13:45Pat McAfee:I think it was a cool part of it all. But this kind of eliminates that. Still need the good story or whoever's pitching. But the hitter can kind of wait on one that they like. As opposed to being forced to throw it or hit it bad pitches. And then the 15 swings in the second and third round, I like that ball back. Yeah. If they hit one, get ball back. Hit one, get ball back. Like, at the end, you can just keep going. Because you might see somebody go on some magical run to win this. Yeah. You guys are going to be a lot less gassed for sure. And I like them getting rid of the clock for sure. That sucked.
2:14:17That was terrible. I don't understand why we just didn't go back to the 10-ounce thing that it used to always be. And there was nothing wrong with it. But we'll see how this goes.
2:14:24Pat McAfee:Okay. hey, maybe they decide that it is the right thing. Maybe it's a combination of the two. Maybe you get 10 swings after you get five outs. Maybe there'll be something like that.
2:14:33Mark Schlabach:Maybe we'll find what the right answer is. And the field matters, so we'll see who's in it.
2:14:40Pat McAfee:Okay, speaking of the field, did you see the fields of Raleigh, North Carolina, filled with Caniacs? Carolina Hurricanes had their parade this weekend. Congrats to them winning the cup for the first time in 20 years. And the city showed up. All anybody has said about Raleigh, North Carolina is it's a perfect place to live. And all anybody from Raleigh, North Carolina has said, stop telling people about it. This city is beautiful. Obviously, it has incredible architecture and city and citizens, but they love the Caniacs down there. Obviously, they love NC State. The Wolfpack as well. Everybody's howling.
2:15:10Pat McAfee:I like seeing the city show up. The only thing that kind of bummed me out is the World Cup was happening, and this was on the weekend, so not a lot of people are going to talk about a gun, man. Yeah, huge bummer. But the nice thing was just kind of the clips. Like, you saw Seth Jarvis. He gave this entire speech about his brother, got super emotional while being super boozed up. That is cool. We just kind of mentioned Omaha, how Omaha is completely dedicated to baseball and college baseball. That's how it feels in Raleigh. Raleigh is completely dedicated to the Hurricanes and the NHL and just playoff hockey.
2:15:40And for them to finally bring it home after being, what, 1-18 in conference championship games over the last five, six years. Like, this was one of those things where everybody in the city has just been waiting for it, and they showed out.
2:15:53Pat McAfee:Congratulations to the Caniacs. You guys earned that, AJ. The Caniacs helped earn that cup. They said it's the loudest and roughest barn in the league. I think it was awesome to see all the people show up because it did get kind of, like, put under the radar because of everything else happening, even when they won it all with the Knicks and everything, World Cup. So to see all of them show up like this and to see all the boys having a great time, that's what I was most interested in. I was glad. But this looks like a very close team. Obviously, Coach, they made Coach take his shirt off again up on stage, I believe.
2:16:22So, yeah, he's going to be in shape until the day he dies.
2:16:24Pat McAfee:He looked unbelievable. He said he's just doing, like, showcase lifting now to try to live longer. Yeah, right. No, he's not. Yeah, you don't get that shredded without absolutely punishing yourself. He's the abs that go out, like six inches. Yeah, and also under chest to here, shredded right here. You got to earn that. That's not just something that push-ups happen. You got to really earn that one. Specific. You're getting close to puking, you know. And some of these fuckers have that drive by themselves for the rest of their life. Yeah. Every morning waking up trying to, I have to kill myself.
2:16:58Pat McAfee:Why do you have to kill yourself in here? I won't be a normal human. It's like, what does that mean? What does that mean? It's like, I got to go hard. I got to get it out of me as soon as I wake up. It's like, all right. Do you just have that in you? Like, how do I get it? Yeah, if I don't, I'll be all fucked up all day. That's what you guys say, though. That is what you people who do that every morning talk about. Is that not accurate? I don't know. I don't know if I – I don't really articulate it. I just kind of do it. Yes, you do. But you articulate it yourself. That's how all these people operate, though.
2:17:27Pat McAfee:Yeah. Kill or be killed. I'm lucky that I'm consistent. Like, I could eat the same thing every day. Yeah, like, so that's – I guess that's just natural. Huge news in the tennis world. Serena Williams is back. Wow. Oh, yeah. Obviously, it was going to be a doubles. Big announcement is what everybody thought. but turns out actually going to be competing in the singles at Wimbledon as a wild card. And I'll tell you what, you know who I'm betting on? Who? Fucking Serena Williams. I don't know how to do it. The last time she competed in a big tournament, I think she was pregnant at the time.
2:17:56Mark Schlabach:Yeah, like six months or something.
2:17:58Pat McAfee:Yeah, she was beating people. It's like, okay, so now she's not pregnant, right? And she's full mom alongside Alexis, who's obviously founder of Reddit. And she's been working around. We assume Serena Williams, who's considered one of those. Anytime we mention the elite competitive spirit people who are at the top of all their sports, Serena Williams is the name that has to come to mind whenever you talk about female sports as a whole because she was just absolute dog. I mean, she just fucking killed everybody for so long and clearly outworked everybody as well. I don't think she's signing up to come back if she doesn't feel very good about how she's playing.
2:18:32Pat McAfee:And for that reason, I'm going to trust the stars. I'm going to believe that Serena is going to win the fucking Wimbledon as a wild card entry. You can get her. She's currently plus 3 ,500 to win Wimbledon. Excuse me. 18th shortest odds right there. So, yeah. I mean, technically, I wouldn't even call it a long shot. It's not bad at all. That's really nice. Okay, so they're thinking she's going to be good as well. I just hopped into the tennis part here. If you're top 20 after being off as long as she has, yeah, I'd say that's quite a bit of respect from the sportsbooks. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say women's winner.
2:19:10Your favorite is Sabalenka.
2:19:12Pat McAfee:She's number one in the world, right? I don't know. She's a dog. Yeah, I think she's very, very. Obviously, these women who have better odds than Serena are very good at women's tennis. But I will say Serena has brought me back into the game. So I'll be betting on her currently. Shout out to us winning$18 ,000 on a$500 bet. You bet what is the right unit for you. You bet on what the right unit is for you. Okay, don't be following my lead. You do your lead. be responsible. But Serena Williams, American icon, getting back into real play and real competition, I believe in her. And that's huge for tennis because obviously that'll bring a lot more eyes to Wimbledon next week or two weeks, whatever it is.
2:19:53Pat McAfee:Two weeks from now, I believe, as it starts the week before 4th of July and then continues to the week after. Goes a fortnight. Yeah, which is how many days? Two weeks. I thought it was like 13. It might be. Is it a Baker's fortnight? Next week is week before July. makers does do their thing fortnight's not just 14 is it it is 14 yeah two weeks wow man some of those things just can't forget about like i just did right there especially if you want to host a show like that it translates directly to 14 nights because fort yeah sure fuck see that's something i need i need to get better more you know it's obviously big in the uk and australia which we found is a bunch of cry crying bitches can you put that opening um you saw the internet they were crying like a bunch of babies they certainly were but i would just like to say the following program is collection students talking about happenings in the sports world is meant to be comedic informative the opinions expressed on this show do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of their peers which would be all of us right now their boss obviously we'll have that conversation or espn who licenses the show there may be some cuss words you know how we go in there so what i'm saying is what tone just said does not necessarily reflect the opinion of all of us.
2:21:05Pat McAfee:With that being said, saw a lot of Australians whining about a lot of things. A lot of pot crying. And I think that was our algo, though, forcing us to see the whining. Like, I bet you there was a lot of non-whiners that maybe we didn't see. I like the algo being like, hey, this country sucks. No, no. I don't... I've been there. I didn't know there was a rivalry. That's a one-sided bug-mosquito rivalry. Well, swimming also massive. Yeah, bug versus mosquito. I'll tell you what, depends on which bug it would be. Because mosquitoes kind of dogs in that entire thing. There's a spider around. Yeah, or a windshield.
2:21:39Pat McAfee:Certainly would change the equivalent of that. But yeah, it did feel like everybody's algo was kind of force-feeding an Australian. It's going, hey, he's gone. Yeah, exactly. I was like, that's not the Australia that I saw. We won again. I think they were just passionate. You know, they lost a war to a bunch of emus. Did you know that? They lost a war to a bunch of birds. What? I did not know that. I'm excited to hear when this was. There was an infestment of emus in Australia, and they sent them all out to kill them all. And they couldn't. The emus won that war. Go ahead. Google that one. They sent who all out to go kill them?
2:22:11Pat McAfee:Australians. So the Australians sent out all the Australians to go kill the emus, and the emus won?
2:22:16Mark Schlabach:Yes.
2:22:17Pat McAfee:So there's a big emu contingency in Australia currently?
2:22:21Mark Schlabach:And now they have a bunch of guns because they killed all these people, and it's like a huge issue. The emus got the guns? Yeah. Ew. Wow. Did they, like, take over their buildings and houses and towns and stuff, too? I don't know if it's near Perth or something, but there's just a bunch of emus. It was in 1932. There was approximately 20 ,000 emus that were destroying local wheat crops, and they sent out the army, and the army lost.
2:22:43Pat McAfee:So this is like four generations now of emus that have been maintaining control? They armed their Australian artillery with 10 ,000 rounds of ammunition and light machine guns, and they couldn't do it. The emus have it. I think what we need to do is respect the Australian emu, maybe. It sounds like these things are sophisticated. It sounds like. I want to fly here. It sounds like. But I would like to let the. Yeah. I think they'll get on a plane, actually, and fucking. I think that's how they would fly here. It would not be good. I'll tell you what. We need not emus doing what Canadian geese have done.
2:23:13Australian emus need to stay out.
2:23:15Pat McAfee:Hey, listen. I'm not calling for it, but.
2:23:17Mark Schlabach:Yeah.
2:23:18Pat McAfee:We need to shut the border down. That's not a bad idea. On these Australian emus. Sounds like there's some dogs. Mm-hmm. Is that where emus pizza comes from?
2:23:28Mark Schlabach:Maybe.
2:23:29Pat McAfee:I don't think I've ever had a moose pizza. Me neither, just heard stories. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice and might change your life. We're in this thing together. Great work, Mitt. Great work, Mitt. Bailey McComis, YouTuber, said, excuse me, God, do the kick. That's right. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, as we are live during the World Cup, I will be wrapping up every show with a $50 ,000 football kick into a basketball hoop challenge have not been terrible no no it's actually been really kind of all over it we've been doing a lot of kickaboots too around here oh yeah everybody's kind of getting a better touch aj i can't wait to see your header with that thing yeah boom maybe pop the ball we don't have a hundred but definitely send it out there we need you to be a part of a kickabout but we have been doing a lot of soccer maybe today will be the day that$50 ,000 will be won by people who are watching.
2:24:27Pat McAfee:For jobs! For jobs. For jobs. Go jobs. Shout out jobs. I am an owner of the company. Can't wait to have a job.
2:24:41For fraud. Here we go. Yes. For country. Yep.
2:24:49Pat McAfee:For Lou Messi.
2:24:50Mark Schlabach:Yes. For Lou Messi. For glory.
2:24:56Pat McAfee:Good boy. Good touch. This might be a good week. That was a good start there. That was a good start there. All right, we'll finish it up. Be your friend. Tell your friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Great work, Mitt. That a baby, Mitt. Way to sit in there for Bruce. Thank you. It took him a little bit to get on that microphone, but he did a great job. Great work in the back, boys. Filling in for Nick. Continue to crush it. We appreciate you all. Foxy, way to do your job. Yes, sir. And everybody else's. Dumpy, way to hold it down in the back there, pal.
2:25:20Pat McAfee:Way to go, boys. Graphics department, way to go. Let's go ahead and continue to do sports. We're incredibly lucky to do it, and we appreciate all love. You! So much. Without all of you, we couldn't do any of this. So thank you! And we love you! Be a friend to other friends. Have a nice, might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.
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From the publisher
On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap Wyndham Clark’s impressive wire-to-wire US Open win with a very contentious Shinnecock crowd behind him, plus they go over all the different World Cup action that happened over the weekend, plus everything else that’s happening in both the NFL and the sports world as a whole. They’re also joined by several great guests including CBS Sports Golazo analyst and former 10+ year professional soccer player, Mike Grella; ESPN Senior NBA Insider Shams Charania on a potential Giannis trade; ESPN golf/college football columnist Mark Schlabach; 4 star WR Julius Jones Jr. makes his college commitment; Texans ROH member, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, JJ Watt; and Head Baseball Coach of the West Virginia Mountaineers, Steve Sabins. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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