PMS 2.0 1577 - Giannis Traded to the Heat, Shams Charania, Richard Jefferson, Brady and Matthew Tkachuk, USMNT Midfielder Tyler Adams, Telemundo Commentator Andres Cantor, Wyndham Clark, Adam Schefter & AJ Hawk

24:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's projected to be the guy. That's why Utah potentially getting the number one overall pick with the BYU connection would have been crazy. Instead, now Utah has two, Washington has one. How will it pan out? Number one overall pick, expected to be a franchise changer and a mover, but obviously the NBA draft, the first round, nobody really looks at anybody past five as a legit thing seemingly every single year. Ty has a question about all of that. Yeah, Richard, we've heard coming into the draft process that this is one of the deepest, most talented drafts in several years. But in your opinion, how many of these guys can realistically or will realistically make an impact year one?

24:48because, like Pat mentioned, it seemed like even towards the back half of the lottery, you have the first five or so guys who actually play legit minutes, and then it seems like a lot of these guys who are first-round picks, we don't see the first year, and a lot of times we really don't see anything from them. So how many of these guys actually will be key linchpins to the teams that they get drafted by? Well, it's always tough because you look at a team like San Antonio, and they were a talented team that ended up with the number two pick in the draft, And he was one of the best players in the playoffs if you look at Dylan Harper.

25:20But then there's also guys like Cooper Flagg, who's the number one pick in the draft. He goes to a team that has talent, but they're injured. And then you go and look at a guy like Khan Knipple. He was in the top pick, but the way he played helped, in my opinion, lift Charlotte in that in-between zone. So it depends on where these guys go. It depends on what their needs are. There were so many teams that are tanking. when we talk about an impact. Is it a game impact? Is it a winning impact? Because there's some teams in there. Grizzlies, they're far away. Jazz might be closer than people think.

25:53I think the Kings are far away. The Hawks with the eighth pick, they are closer. The Mavericks with the ninth pick. So a lot of these guys, it's like some of these guys are player, they're game ready right now. But is their team ready? So a guy might average 17 points, 16 points, and you're like, he's a stud, but he's doing it for the third worst team in the league. But there might be a guy that averages 13 points a game for a playoff team. So it's all about where you draft, what your need is, and can a guy be ready to contribute? What I was so impressed with Dylan Harper being the number two pick is that he was contributing to a championship run.

26:29Now, you don't see that very often with rookies. But then there's other guys that were out there that had outstanding rookie years. They were just on a tough team. They were on a team that was struggling, that was still tanking. So I think that there are a lot of guys in this. Excuse me? Excuse me?

26:42Pat McAfee:No, tanking. Rebuilding. Yeah, yeah. You know what, Pat? I apologize. I misspoke. I'm still dealing with some of this stuff. Still a little jet-lagged, if you know what I mean. Oh, from all the goodwill and philanthropy. Yeah, from all the goodwill and philanthropy. No, the tanking. The tanking. The soft-ass tanking that was happening in the NBA. Yeah, yes. Yes, that's what I was referencing. But when you look at a lot of these players, I think a lot of these players will be able to contribute. It's just where. Are they going to contribute to a high-level playoff team and they're the 10th pick or they're the 12th pick?

27:12Are they the number one pick and they're averaging 19, 20 points a game for a team that will be in the lottery again next year?

27:18Pat McAfee:I think it is good that we kind of know all these guys at least. Remember, there was a run there where it was who gives a damn ya from somewhere. Yeah, not as many of your fans. Yeah, two years ago. Had no idea. Damn ya? Damn ya? You've really changed, Pat. Damn ya? Who gives a damn ya? That person was from Spain or something. There was a run there where it was like, yeah, I forget where these guys were coming from. And then it was like, well, we hope they choose to come to the NBA. It's like, what the fuck are you guys doing over there? You're drafting people we've never heard of. And then these people get to decide whether or not they're coming to the NBA.

27:52I was just like, I was befuddled by it.

27:55Pat McAfee:And then Wemby obviously comes through France and we didn't learn really about him, Doofus. Should have known about him a long time ago, I think, especially whenever he was 17 and him and Chet were battling for this entire thing. I think we should have known that at the time. But we learned of this guy, and we're like, so this is going to be the greatest basketball player of all time? And they're like, probably. Yeah, he's got a chance. He's got a chance. So it feels like the NBA draft is like real hit or miss. I feel like it's really exciting, or it's not at all, like year to year. This year, it feels like everybody's talking about good players this year.

28:25Pat McAfee:It feels like it's good players and known players. I think that's a big deal. yes then that's why there was so much rebuilding this year because there was such an elite draft that so many teams were like we got to get in the top three you saw what happened with your pacers uh uh my brooklyn nets had had a bit of a struggle too they had a tough season ended up with the six pick that whoa whoa i don't yeah yeah agreed agreed agreed but this is what i'm saying look The Nets could go 0 for 82, and I'll still look at you like this is gravy. Okay? Like, everything is fine. I don't know if a lot of people are doing that anymore.

29:01Pat McAfee:I like that you're still doing that. I'm still doing that. But I think, again, you look at A-Cuff. There are players that are going to be around that 6, 7, 8, 9 that literally could be all-stars in two or three years. And so, like, this is one of the years where 6, 7, 8, 9 could win rookie of the year. We don't know. The top guys, elite, outstanding. but you can also see guys that win rookie of the years that aren't the number one the number two the number three pick here's jeremy woo's uh projected top 10 we know jeremy woo right we're big fans oh yeah jeremy woo yeah he's yeah he'll woo you he's wooed me yeah with this draft yeah yeah and i look i like mikhail brown jr i you know me i like acuff a little bit more my arizona Wildcats played against Arkansas, and I was scared of him.

29:51I was like, yo, this is the type of player that can take over a game, has that mentality. There's some good guards in this league. You see another Arizona player down there, Burry. So, no, no, this is a very, very good draft. There are impact players. My big thing when you're drafting a player, especially if you're in the 7 to 18 range, especially, you want a guy that can contribute right away. That doesn't mean that average is 18. That means can this guy give us eight, nine points? Can this guy play defense? Can he block shots? Can he hit a three? So you want somebody that can contribute to the success of your team.

30:24And I think that that increases as you get kind of in that 10 to 20 range. When you go from 20 to 30, to me, that's more of like you might want to take a person that you can develop because your team might already be loaded.

30:36Pat McAfee:A flyer. Got it. Okay. Last question isn't about the draft. It's about a situation that's happening in Boston right now. And we think you'd be obviously the perfect person to give an answer. Go ahead, Convin. Yeah, Richie, how do you feel about the Jalen Brown situation? It feels like now, hey, we've got to move this guy. This is the second time in four years, as Shams pointed out, that they've tried and included Jalen Brown in trade talks. What do you think his reaction is to everything? Do you think he's done with kind of the entire thing and wants a fresh start somewhere else? Or do you think this is something that could maybe motivate him and help the Celtics this upcoming season?

31:10Well, I think if we always look at Jalen Brown's career, he always looks at things as a motivation. He is a champion. He's a finals MVP. The dude this year without Jason Tatum showed that he is a top 10 player in the league, was high on the MVP candidate list. But when I look at him and what he's able to do on the court, two-way player, he's elite. He's in the mode of Kawhi Leonard, of the young Paul George. He has all of that. But one thing that I would say to Jalen Brown is that as your career goes on, these are conversations that we'll have. You got traded or potentially got traded for Giannis.

31:45This wasn't a package deal in a young all-star. This is one of the all-time greats. And it's kind of like Anthony Davis getting traded for Luka. Hey, it's Luka. You got to understand. And so if I was Jalen Brown, I would help him understand that, like, hey, this is a part of the business. It's a little tough when it's with your first team, a team that you've accomplished so much. But your team's job is also to field calls. And if they can get Giannis, then that's most likely what they would try to do. Now, they wouldn't give away everything, right? They wouldn't give away anything, but they would listen to calls for Giannis.

32:19And whenever guys like Giannis or LeBron or Kevin Durant, whenever these guys hit the market, everybody is available. And just because you were to go, let's say he were to magically go to a team, let's say Portland, right? Three years from now, Portland could be fielding calls. There is no loyalty in our business. There is none. There's a little bit of respect. There's no loyalty in professional sports. Pat, you know that. You've seen handshakes, and then the next day they walk out in the room and trade you. These are things that are very, very normal. Are there emotions involved? But understand, the grass will not always be greener on the other side.

32:52Pat McAfee:Reality of the business doesn't always feel good, though, especially whenever you're the one that's being talked about as being potentially a moving piece in the entire chess game. I hope JB and Tatum continue up there in Boston. but the Boston Celtics fans say the way Jalen Brown operates with the way you talked about, is everything his motivation? Is he going to be cool just coming back to the Celtics after this publicly happens? I appreciate Richard Jefferson saying, there is a reality that this is Giannis, too. Hopefully that'll happen. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. Hopefully the Indiana Pacers win the title next year.

33:22Pat McAfee:I don't know about that. Hey, you're the man. We'll watch you tonight, 8 o 'clock on ABC and ESPN. The NBA draft, that's Richard Jefferson. Yeah, Richard! Talking about trading. I mean, let's go from one sport to another. Ladies and gentlemen, a great American man was traded from a Canadian franchise to a Southern Florida franchise. One in which his brother was already a member of and a champion of. And then on basically the same day, these two lads, their father would be announced that he'd be going into the Hockey Hall of Fame. ladies and gentlemen proud american badass hockey brothers from the florida panthers and sons of big walt hockey hall of famer ladies and gentlemen matthew and brady kachuk

34:13Pat McAfee:how we doing lads uh congratulations matthew on getting your brother to your team i think that would be the first thing uh that might be in order here uh let's start there matthew whenever you hear the potential rumblings of your brother getting traded to your franchise what is the immediate response what is the reaction and how do you kind of uh emotionally roll through this entire process if you will yeah well i had no idea and uh i shouldn't say i knew there was maybe a slight chance that this could become a reality um but i was never given given my hopes up because you just never know and he could have gone anywhere he could have stayed uh we had no idea but the second that i mean i think brady should should tell the story about how we found out but uh we were all together and it was one of the greatest moments of my entire life um i had my daughter millie in my hands i'm like lifting her up like this is the stanley cup i'm like yeah but brady you got to tell the story about how you actually found out please do yeah it was uh it was an eventful day we had millie's baptism in the morning we had father's day brunch and i was just told uh things are happening fast so just be on your phone and we were actually having a gold medal party that night uh for all of our family and friends in st louis so we're doing family pictures before i was off my phone for five minutes and our grandpa was standing out there we're in the middle of our family pictures like huh this is interesting we have you know emily caplan and pierre lebrun just said brady you just got traded to florida so there's that i was like what and so i went right right inside i was holding my son and no so i had like 10 missed calls and and i realized that it happened and uh we always uh we'll have that together that we found out on the same room yeah having a professional photographer there four family photos in the exact moment that you find out that the family is going to be regathering in south florida as teammates uh brady you knew you were going to get traded is that kind of just a part of the business we were just chatting about this with richard jefferson and what happened with jalen brown out of boston potentially getting traded for yannis and the trade not happening and how he reacts obviously with team usa winning uh the gold medal we had such a high such a boost here in the united states of america i think matthew probably felt it with his organization and obviously when you guys came back but a lot of our stars were up on canadian franchise yeah and we we had been reading things about maybe the local canadians not being necessarily as excited to welcome back the American heroes, you know?

36:41Pat McAfee:And we as doofuses in America didn't necessarily love that. So I literally just said, we need all the guys back in America. We need all the guys back in America. That's what we need. Now, that was in the moment. That was rude. Obviously, we like Canada. We appreciate Canada and Ottawa. But how do you kind of get to the point of knowing you're going to get traded? And in hockey, is there a lot of conversations with the player? It sounds like no, other than just stay by your phone. How do you kind of end up in Florida? This seems like a hockey gods kind of blessing kind of taking place. Well, first, I'm just really thankful for, you know, the city of Ottawa, the Ottawa centers organization.

37:18And, you know, I was there for eight years. It was an amazing eight years and made me into who I am. But no, I think it was just, you know, a lot kind of went into it. It wasn't an easy decision at all. It was, you know, tough, but felt like it was, you know, just ready for the next chapter. and just have, you know, those conversations with, you know, the Senators' management. And it's just kind of, you know, waiting around a little bit, let them, I guess, figure it out a little bit. And just, you know, I got a call just, you know, things were happening really fast. It was pretty just stagnant and stale and just kind of just going about everyday life.

37:55And then over the weekend, I just got a call from, you know, our agent saying that things are happening pretty fast. So just, you know, be on your phone. Just could happen, you know, any second, but it could happen in a couple days. So I think that was more, you know, draining mentally and emotionally. And now that it's done, it's, you know, very thankful for, you know, everybody involved, both parties. And, you know, like I said, I wouldn't be the man I am if it wasn't for, you know, all the people in Ottawa that welcomed me from day one. So now we're on to the next chapter. I'm really excited about it.

38:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, great barn up there in Ottawa. And I appreciate you shouting them out. Obviously, a massive piece of your story. Let's talk about you two's story. Obviously, we saw you on Team USA. Brady, I think we saw a lot of behind the scenes mic'd up of you actually saying, we're going to win this game, like taking on a leadership role. I think you have a seat. Matthew, obviously, you're a massive leader down there in Florida. Team USA, you're together. How many other teams have you guys played together? And is there just a fist fight that happens between you both to see who's the alpha? How do the Kachuks kind of handle that situation, Matt?

39:01um no there's no fist fighting because i'm fighting an uphill battle on that one but uh other than team usa at the four nations olympics i think the first time we ever played with each other was at the all-star game down here in florida so we've only been playing together for three times never on the same regular season team um but um i'm just i'm over the moon excited what i told brady too what's great about down here is like he had to wear a lot of hats playing up in in Ottawa, being a young captain, playing in Canada, you know, just dealing with like a lot of stuff, like whether it's in his control or not, which is, I mean, sometimes a little bit unfortunate in the business where like the best part about playing down here and this might sound like a little bit bad, but we're really just like pieces of meat down here.

39:48Like you have your role, like you wear one hat, you don't have to do somebody else's job. And it's just a total group effort. We're a deep team. I mean, it's the greatest place to live. Look at Giannis coming down here. It's not even the same sport, and it's very similar. And just life's good, and the team's fun, and there's nobody fighting to be the alpha. I mean, there's so many leaders.

40:14Pat McAfee:Well, just know if I sign down there, just know if I sign down there, day one, punching Brady right in the face. Well, what are you going to have to make down here, like$70 million? I see the state tax. I understand that there's a potential alternate home coming down there, no doubt. I just tell Brady, everybody's an alpha in their own way. There's guys on this team. I mean, there's maybe, if we were on guys on other teams, there could be 10 captains on our team right now here in Florida. So just come down here, have so much fun. Do your job and your job only, and you're just going to see your game just elevate to a whole other level.

40:54So I can't wait to see him this year. I think the best is yet to come with him.

40:58Pat McAfee:We can't wait to watch you both on the ice. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, you boys were just talking about being at a baptism. That was for children. Matthew, have you baptized Brady yet? Did you just take him to the elbow room and pour a beer over his head? How does that work? I knew that was coming. We're in the mix of that summer grind right now. Brady's only here for a few days, so am I. maybe we'll uh i mean the dream is to is to have that elbow room baptism next year in mid-june right like that's that's the dream so um i'm sure we'll have a couple the scots are there now if you want to go party with this trip yeah the scottish the scottish folks are over there right now they're kind of holding it down i assume the chucks could keep up if it means anything we would send the kachucks to represent us in a scottish party well too yeah well big walt as well which also leads to this go ahead ty yeah so i mean obviously you know you you guys are now finding out that you're going to be playing together and i assume that is awesome you're all together but how special was it hearing that your dad is going in to the hall of fame as well and being able to kind of share that moment with because every time you guys you know accomplish something it seems like that is one of the first things the camera picks up is it cuts to the crowd and your dad is always there supporting you guys so how awesome was that moment that was incredible we've been talk he just one-upped us all all weekend so um i mean just the way we found out just he was ready he found out i think it was inst louis the announcement was at two and he found out at 12 30 just like nobody noticed he went outside for a phone call and then came back and then he was like i'm ready to take this to the announcement not tell anybody and just be everybody be surprised but he's like all right like my uncle was there and my cousin was there he's there brady just go grab a beer we'll have it in the kitchen so you know nobody can see it then he's just it's like i'm like what's going on he's like uh well guys cheers i just got in the hall and everybody went nuts and lost it and it was unbelievable like my mom's sitting in the other room with the grandkids like what what's going on and then it was just awesome just such a special moment that i know i'll never forget it's so well deserved and uh i'm just so unhappy for him yeah matt we were looking up his stats uh earlier today you guys got a lot of work to do bro yeah yeah we do yeah yeah you got a lot of work to do what a stud i love that he is living his career still through you guys as well and it's very obvious and it's very evident and i love how much of a family thing hockey is you know we saw that obviously with the hughes is and we see it with you and it feels like we looked it up how many sets of brothers have played i think 47 total sets of brothers have played on the same team it's incredible because you guys think like obviously you two battling against each other as lads young lads probably has helped all this is that an accurate depiction or or is the age difference too much or how do you kind of attribute that to the success of it all matt i just think that i had to drag brady along with me i mean needed somebody to play mini hockey with i needed somebody to play roller hockey with so i dragged him along and i think it really helped both of us and i mean we've competed in every single thing that you could ever think about all of our lives and as we've gotten older that shifted to competing against each other into really really really wanting to compete with each other and we had that experience at four nations had the best time in the world and then went to the olympics and i mean it was literally the best time in the world with us at our in our memories so um i mean this is just a dream come true this is this is olympics on steroids for us every single day having him at the rink today just like driving him in the golf cart it's just you can't make it up right now so oh that's really cute guys it's really cute we're we're just having a blast and and the girls are out together our wives you know figuring out where he's gonna live and so just our family is has always been so close and this experience us playing with each other is just a dream for the whole family all right we're happy to hear that.

44:57Pat McAfee:We're also happy that you guys are going to play a brand of hockey that we love. To that point, Connor has a question. Last question for you. Yeah, Brady, going all the way back to the Four Nations, you know, it kind of started where you guys just started throwing hands right away before the puck even dropped. It was kind of agreed upon. And then going back to the playoffs, game one, first one out of any series, you and Jordan Stahl basically dropped the mitts right off the bat. What was that like? How did that come about? And did you realize in the moment, like, I might be beating the hell out of the cons my in game one.

45:28Yeah. That one just wanted, you know, I wouldn't say we snuck in, but just wanted to show, you know, we're playing against, you know, an Unreal team and I knew I was going to be playing against, you know, Stahl All-Series. And I guess just wanted to show, you know, our team and, you know, everybody that's, now we're going to be ready to play. We're going to, you know, try to conquer the beast and just kind of show we're ready. And, yeah, didn't expect what followed after, a four-shee getting swept and then them going on to win the Stanley Cup. And then him winning the consummate. So, yeah, that one stung a little bit.

46:13But, yeah, he's a great player and clearly a great captain, too.

46:17Pat McAfee:Yeah, we all got a chance to remember and experience the end of Jordan Stahl's magical playoff run. but it was nice to relive the very beginning of that entire thing where you two just agree, seemingly both agree, to fighting each other there too. How does that go about? You guys just look at each other? Because from our angle, it looked like you said, yeah, and he said, yeah, and then literally we just get after it. Is that as much as it takes in the hockey world as somebody? I think you beat the hell out of PK as a rookie as well. Subban, he still tells the story. Whenever it comes to the fighting thing, is there normally some sort of agreement that takes place between each other?

46:49Pat McAfee:Is it just known? Or is that shit coming out of nowhere for one of you normally? I mean, that situation, it was more like we were going to fight at some point this series. And then he was like, why don't we just fight now? I was like, okay, great. I didn't expect that. But then usually it's weird. You just have that connection with the guy. You don't even have to say anything. How did the one with PK go? She knocks you down and just, I was like, that wasn't more of a question. I was like, we're going. And just immediately grabbed on and forced hands. But, yeah, no, it's just weird. You just sometimes just don't even have to say anything.

47:33You just both know what's happening.

47:34Pat McAfee:And what's the strategy? Matt, do you fight much? I don't think I see you hitting people a lot. More of a pass. No, I do not. I'm definitely not as good as him. That's what all the guys were saying today. that like i can't believe how big he is and like in person he's just a monster so no wonder why he does good at the fighting but no brady brady that's he is way better at that it's way better at a lot of things than me and that is definitely one yeah okay well that's gonna happen i think in the household these guys especially big waltz keys you know that's gonna take place yeah but pk said that you were a grown man and now he said you did get him at the end of his shift he said he he said you got him at the end of the shift which is a strategy move by you potentially is that accurate?

48:16Well, I will say, I do have to defend him. Fighting at the end of the shift is the worst thing in the world. You're already fighting an uphill battle with that one. He was in one from the very beginning. See, that's pretty cool.

48:30Pat McAfee:You're the best. I think I was so fresh. You guys are the best. Alright, enjoy yourselves. Congratulations on teaming up and we can't wait to see what Hockey Beach down there has in store for the rest of us as we go forward here. Congrats, boys. Enjoy it all. Thank you guys, appreciate it Tell the old man we said congrats on the Hall of Fame That's awesome ladies and gentlemen, that's the Florida Panthers Catcha Yeah, catcha Brady Brady kind of looks like he's like Shrek there sitting next to He's fucking huge He's a big son of a bitch I mean his fucking head His wrist had like an oversized thing to it Yeah, that's what PK said He said when he got his hands on me Holy shit, this is the strongest 18-year-old probably walking the planet right now.

49:16Pat McAfee:And now he and Marshan are on the same team? Yeah, Bradley. And Matthew. And Matthew. And Barky. And Rinal. They got a lot of pests over there. They do. And then they got the guy. Yeah. Oh, is that right? You're going to do what to Marshy? Okay. Bring him in. Beat the shit out of him. Where's Brady? He's talented, too. He's not a big dumb goon of the past. No, he's not. He's not. No, he's able to handle his business. We were going to show an interview with Tyler Adams that we were able to record earlier, but I don't know if we're able. Actually, let's do it. Ask them to push it to 105. Ask them to push it to 105.

49:54Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, we had an incredible opportunity to catch up with a man who's been a part of two World Cups now with Team USA, Tyler Adams from earlier today. Look at you. You look like a guy that's already clinched to go to the elimination round. Yeah. Here we go. Woo! Congratulations, sir. Obviously, you're 27. You were 23 in 2022 while you were captain of the U.S. national team. Now back with this squad doing things that the U.S. men's national team has never seen before. Can you just tell me the vibes of this year's World Cup versus maybe years past with the U.S. national team? Yeah, we've grown a lot since the last World Cup.

50:30I would say in the last World Cup, we were a little bit obviously inexperienced. I hate to say that word, but that's probably the truth more than anything. whereas now we're just more mature. A lot of us have changed in our personal lives, becoming fathers, growing up, everything that comes with life. And now as we enter this World Cup, I feel the group is more together than ever. We have a belief that I don't know that we had before, and we're just continually growing.

50:55Pat McAfee:Okay, so you talk about inexperience. Does that show like when you're a little bit under siege maybe by Australia? Okay, like in the second half, it felt like we were a little under siege there, but there was no panic, it didn't feel. Now, first half, obviously, we all enjoyed a lot more. Did we not? We all enjoyed that. Oh, God, it was awesome. Yeah, and then Paraguay, I guess four quarters now. We enjoyed the four quarters against Paraguay. We loved everything about that. But that second half did feel a little bit different than the start of the World Cup. For you guys, is it a necessity to kind of go through stuff like that?

51:25Pat McAfee:Like, what do you kind of think about how you guys have played here two games down and already clinching? Yeah, you have to be battle-tested. I think in the second half against Australia, you could see we invited them more to put a little bit more pressure on. But, of course, when you're up 2-0, a team is going to come out and attack a little bit more. But, again, I think we handled the pressure well. It's something that you're going to have to go through at different points in the games, especially with the heat playing a factor as well as you start to fatigue. But I felt like we were comfortable still in that second half.

51:54Pat McAfee:Okay, tell me about the heat and the fatigue in the four quarters that are happening, because obviously this is drawing a lot of conversation. I think natural sports fans like us watching, going to a commercial, taking a break, no big deal for us. All good. Yeah, for us, this is completely normal shit that's happening here. Take a piss. And of course they want to sell some shit to us. Yeah. Like, we very much understand that. Feels like the soccer community, super soccer people, aren't necessarily in love with it. I assume old school soccer players, like, we used to go 110 degrees, okay, 10 minutes of stoppage time, straight through every single time with no air conditioning in the locker room.

52:28Pat McAfee:Like, I assume there's a lot of that shit as well. But can you tell me about the hydration break and maybe does it change the way you guys are playing? Does it change anything other than the fact that, you know, they're putting more commercials into games? Yeah, I told every European that I'm friends with that the U.S. won't sneak away from sneaking an ad in any opportunity that they get. So that's something to get used to for sure. But I think for us, I mean, I haven't celebrated one goal. I'm always going to the sideline to get water any opportunity I can because playing in this heat again and adjusting to it is obviously a little bit different than playing in Europe.

53:01So something to get used to, but, yeah, it's normal.

53:04Pat McAfee:Okay, I like it. I appreciate it. And also, you guys, we've been talking about this a little bit. Grella brought it up. I don't know if you guys saw the war Grella started with Australia or not, but he, you did, yeah, had to. There was clown heads. Ex-teammate of mine, ex-teammate of mine. Yeah, of course. Way to go, Grella. Way to put the heat on even more. obviously world cup match there's going to be pressure or whatever the case is but uh whenever you guys are more athletic clearly like we i went to the paraguay game i was i'm sorry pat paraguay i went to the this is fucking culture okay bro what you're watching here is cultured lad okay i'm trying to figure this out i went to the paraguay game and for the first time ever it looked like every one of our guys could cook the other team like everybody was faster it felt like we were more aggressive, had more moxie, felt like more confidence on the ball.

53:57Pat McAfee:Obviously, you play for Bournemouth, but is that because all the guys that we have now are playing in these massive leagues, are used to the bigger moments playing against these players, so confidence is also a huge piece of what we have right now? Or is it skill level and athleticism that we also have that we haven't had in the past? No, listen, confidence is a huge thing. I think our group has been together long enough that the chemistry is flowing. everyone feels in sync with one another throughout the entirety of a game um that being said we also do have a really athletic team like when you go around the team and you pick player for player uh against any team in the world really we have an extremely athletic team and i think you sprinkle that in now with the quality that we have with guys playing at the clubs around the world that they do um those two things go hand in hand with one another i like that the american team is more athletic than everybody else yeah should be can you guys catch you guys can't throw though right You guys can't do that?

54:49Depends who you're talking to.

54:51Pat McAfee:You, can you? Basketball, good. Played basketball in high school. American football. My brother played American football. So, yeah, just depends. You can throw one, though, and catch? Yeah, a little bit here and there. Sounds like a no. Yeah, that is. Listen, you see what I do with soccer? Okay, a lot of commitment. Okay, a lot of time. I mean, listen, there's a reason we picked soccer. Let's be real. But also, we're very thankful that you guys did because obviously it's a fun style to watch. You talked about being together and knowing each other's every move. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Tyler, I wanted to talk about that, and specifically in the midfield, you and Weston McKinney, I believe, have been playing together for some sort of U.S.

55:28team for like 10-plus years now. Now that you're both 27, and this is obviously multiple World Cups for you guys, how huge is it for you guys to have that camaraderie in the middle between you two and then kind of the other guys that you've been playing with since you're teenagers now? Yeah, no, I've played with Weston for a long time. We moved to Florida together to go to residency program for the national team when we were 15, I believe. So, yeah, going on 12 years and knowing one another. And, yeah, I feel like I know him like I know my brothers at this point. We spend almost too much time together.

56:01The banter never changes between the two of us, but it's like we're childhood friends. So, you know, these are the kids that I grew up with. and now as we grow into men and our lives start to evolve kind of you know you're going to war with one another on the field and you have each other's back so it brings the team that much

56:16Pat McAfee:closer are you guys chirping a lot out there on the field are we known as a chirpy team uh yeah me and weston i think for sure uh to other teams i think we're kind of the catalyst for a lot of that but um yeah i think our i think our our shit talk is getting a little bit better Okay, I like that we're doing that a lot. I like that we're chirping a little bit because it's interesting with the VAR shit. I didn't know they could just go back and get, like, the petty stuff that's happening behind the scenes. Like, I think I saw – and obviously, I played soccer, but I was never really a big soccer watcher.

56:49Pat McAfee:And then, obviously, I buy in the most whenever you guys are playing. Every time you guys play, I think we're going to win, and I am going full board that we are going to win. I didn't know the advancements of VAR that they go to somebody in an apartment. That room they're in, is this big? Yeah. They got them kind of shoved in there. They have the red uniform. They got their cleats on shoved in there. I didn't know we're doing that. That's three of them, two in the shot, in the frame, you know, kind of getting in there. It's awesome. But they're going and getting, like, the petty stuff behind the scenes.

57:16Pat McAfee:They're like, oh, they'll look at that the next five minutes or whatever. The next ball stops, they'll go back. It's like, has that eliminated a lot of the petty shit that, you know, used to happen on a field a lot, I think, as opposed to now? Or is it a cleaner style of soccer? Like, how do you kind of describe what's happening at the World Cup right now? It feels like it's more offensive, a lot more offensive. Yeah, it's more offensive for sure. But that being said, I mean, you can't get away with anything now. I mean, there's a million cameras in the stadium. They have a million different angles to go to.

57:43They walk over to the TV. It takes 10 minutes to make a decision. And then, yeah, they can come back, give you red card penalties, corner kicks, whatever. I mean, it's like the cameras are controlling the game at some point.

57:55Pat McAfee:So you guys are getting a break now. You can't do anything really petty. It feels like it's a new modern song. Yeah, it's awesome. It feels like there's a little bit more energy. It feels like maybe people aren't just getting wounded as they're getting hacked out of nowhere. Hey, this might be the American time. Maybe this new sport that you guys have all created over in soccer. I like it. It's our sport. We like everything about it. Our attention deficit disorders. Whenever we're watching things, you give us a little break. We can go to our phones. Nobody's playing anything. I'm not missing anything here.

58:25Pat McAfee:Ponchettino's on a laptop. Tell me about him, please. This guy seems like he is an electric factory. Can you tell me about Ponchettino and what you've learned from him, maybe about soccer? When we have water breaks, he's tactically in tune, changing things, whatever he sees from the sidelines. But he's an incredible guy. He's kind of changed the culture of everything that we have here in U.S. soccer in terms of, you know, he was born and raised in Argentina, a country where, you know, it's a religion to play the game of soccer. and growing up in that and having him kind of share and express his experiences with us.

58:59I mean, he's coached some of the best teams in the world, and that's definitely influenced us.

59:02Pat McAfee:Okay, so you were in a residency in high school. Sorry, as I get choked up thinking about your drive there and not just have an accidental finish of a sip of a drink there as you were wrapping up your answer at the wrong time. I didn't think it was going to be. You talk about residency in high school, though. So obviously you've been a part of the U.S. Soccer kind of federation association for a long time here now. You have been projected to be one of our guys for a long time. They scouted you at a tournament. They saw you. They said, hey, this is going to be the future of the United States of America.

59:32Pat McAfee:You guys are kind of placed into a group there. Ponchettino coming in and changing the mindset has been a big part of the sub-soccer committee online, I think. It's like Ponchettino maybe changing everything. How do you feel about the way U.S. soccer is now and how we got to this moment and what Ponch maybe does for the future of U.S. soccer So there's more Tyler Adams. There's more of this kind of to sustain success. Yeah, it's the evolution of of the game. I think for us, you know, the first goal has to be getting our best young players playing at the highest level possible. And a lot of us are doing that at this moment in time.

1:00:08And I think that's why you see everything coming together. That being said, people forget how big the country it is and how hard it is to kind of put all those players together. also in the U.S. obviously as you guys know there's so many other sports that kids can pick I think by us having a successful World Cup more kids will want to pick up a soccer ball and continue playing and developing knowing that there's a chance for them to reach the highest level and be the next me Christian Pulisic Weston McKinney and the list goes on and on so I think you give these kids more of a chance to to grow the game a lot of that weighs on us and

1:00:39Pat McAfee:our success yeah I like that we're having a boom right now and I like how cool Paunch looks on the sideline. He's got Air Forces on. He's got that blue whatever it is. It's like a mechanics outfit. I have no idea how that became the costume, but I love it. I mean, he's got one button. Let's go. I need a little room down here. I need a little room up here, but I do want to look cool. His hair, too, flowing, and he's everywhere on this. We're doing a lot of clapping. We're doing a lot of yelling. I love the moxie. I love what our team has. I also appreciate that it sounds like we have a post-game routine that the world might be catching on with.

1:01:16Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Tyler, kind of the moment of the tournament so far has been you guys singing country roads after that victory in Seattle. What was that like for you? Have you ever experienced something like that? And can you kind of describe the emotion? Because even Ponch mentioned, like, hey, I was emotional. The whole team was emotional doing that. And how cool was that for you? Yeah, I think the best moment for me after that was when, you know, Ponch had our team talk after the game and he goes, guys listening to that made me feel really american and i was like that's exactly what i want to hear i mean the the atmosphere of of that game was probably the best that i've played in in terms of for sure the national team but just in general the fans singing the national anthem before the game like that was electric and then after obviously after you know listening to country roads looking at my family singing everyone's excited everyone's smiling it was incredible yeah almost heaven baby last virginia but a lot of you guys for soccer do have to go abroad, you know, to do your job, to do your gig.

1:02:16Pat McAfee:So, you know, Country Roads take me home. It is not a bad little tie-in, too, for, you know, if you want to get an emotional tie to that. Now, there's a chance it sounds like we're going to be singing it coming up. I don't know if you're going to be sweaty when that's happening. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Tyler, what is the approach when you look ahead to Thursday? Obviously, you know, you want to keep up the momentum because you guys have been playing so well, but I know you have a yellow, and we have a couple other guys who are on yellows. like how is that going to be balanced in terms of like this game against Turk IA really doesn't mean shit, but also we've been playing so well that we still want to have a good showing out there.

1:02:51Yeah, it's a tough one. I mean, obviously, I've been asked the question already. I'm a firm believer in momentum. You know, when things are going well, you try and stay as consistent as possible. I'm happy I'm not a coach to make that decision. But yeah, well, we'll see. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:03:10Pat McAfee:Sounds good. Everybody was told not to say shit. We will give an answer whenever we have an answer. Okay, I like it. Hey, thank you for doing what you're doing for our country, man. The world's rallying around soccer, and our country is certainly rallying around you guys. And I think the performances you've been putting up out there have been spectacular. They've been entertaining. And you've got people that are just football meatheads binding completely to our country. No flopping. There's really no flopping. There's not, like, whining, I don't think. Like, legitimately, it feels like a lot of people are watching the team and watching your games that don't know shit and expect just something terrible to happen.

1:03:44Pat McAfee:And you guys are dogs, dude. We appreciate the hell out of it. We're very, very, very grateful for what you guys are doing for us right now. I appreciate it, y 'all, man. That means a lot. All right, good luck out there, okay? And if you pick up another yellow card, what's that mean? Suspended for the next round. Okay, yeah, so you're not fucking playing. Yeah, exactly. You, Flo Bolligan, Chris Richards, and Anthony Robinson. Okay, so let's just go through. All those guys. Hit the bench. Yeah, see ya. Grab some pine. Yeah, we need you in the turkey. They already fired your coach. Who cares? Let's go to the elimination round.

1:04:18Pat McAfee:You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. Tyler Adams. Tyler. I think we got to it there at the end. Yeah. People that are obviously buying tickets to the game are going to want to see the big names that have already happened over the first couple games here. But it's like a lot of our big-name guys are all sitting on a yellow. and if they get another yellow in a game that is meaningless, obviously we're already through, we've already punched our ticket, they have to miss our first elimination game? It's like, yeah, right, that can't happen. Paunch's ass would be... Oh, man. Could you imagine game management like that?

1:04:47Pat McAfee:He would never. He would never. Mo wouldn't do that. We got a deep roster. We're going to see a lot of them. All right, we're back on the other side with some more of that conversation. I think you'll enjoy it. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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1:05:35Pat McAfee:Sports! Are the greatest of all time, and I'll tell you what. We got World Cup fever over here. Yeah. Everybody's excited about these soccer games that are taking place all over North America. Yeah. I'll tell you, it's hard not to buy in whenever all the stars are showing up. We've done a lot of trusting of the stars whenever we do our gambling with our friends at DraftKings. Yes, we are a partner. Yes, if you're 21 plus and have the capability of gambling responsibly, we'd like you to come join us. But don't be an asshole. You're not going to become a bazillionaire. But as we have continued to kind of decipher what we want to do and how we want to go about doing it on a daily team ride situation, we've been doing a lot of trusting of the stars.

1:06:17Pat McAfee:We did it in hockey. Obviously, we did it in basketball. And we're doing it in soccer. Let me tell you, these soccer stars, these fucking guys show up. Okay? And we are grateful for that. These guys, all the names you know. Messi. Mbop. Mbop. Who scored again? Mbop. Two times. Holland down there. Hole. Monster. Back-to-back two times scoring. Messi, this guy, could have had another hat-trick, missed a penalty. Makes a penalty as a hat-trick. Back-to-back. Has two goals. And for America, we're scoring goals in every single game. It's like soccer stars are showing up. And then today, just moments ago, a star that we have all known in his sixth World Cup, one of the most handsome people ever created, Cristiano Ronaldo had a goal.

1:07:07Did he?

1:07:08Pat McAfee:Yes, he did. Duh. Just did. You know, one half of the Hammer Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino said, hey, whenever you're picking soccer games, you should just pick the star of the team to score a goal and then the team to win if you like the team to win. Because it turns out the stars of the team are the stars of the team because these guys score. That is what they do. And it feels like in this World Cup it's happening in a massive way to start. What a dream scenario for soccer as a whole and the World Cup. The toxic table is here, who also has World Cup fever, at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. I don't think we expected this, Ty.

1:07:43Pat McAfee:I don't think we would be necessarily described as soccer people, but this World Cup fever has kind of taken over a little bit. Yeah, certainly not. And I think it was maybe just last week. It might have been earlier this week when we were talking about, like, maybe Jordan and Austria. And I basically said, hey, you couldn't give me$100 ,000 to watch this game. Oh, yeah, that was less than 10 days ago. Exactly. You know what I was doing last night? Watching it. On pins and needles watching Algeria and whoever the hell. Jordan. Yeah, Jordan. On pins and needles watching it. I mean, as soon as I got home.

1:08:13boom, you know, let's get the iPad on. Let's get whatever game's going. And as soon as that's over, hey, let's get over to the other one. It really is special because like previous World Cups, you'd check in on the Messies and the Cristiano Ronaldo's. Like I'm not saying I would sit down and watch a whole game, but I would definitely like – at bits and pieces I would go in and be like, okay, let's just see what's going on. No, no, no, not anymore. I mean, every game that's on – and again, maybe the fact that it's on home soil and the times aren't weird, so it is kind of – It almost feels like an NFL Sunday a little bit.

1:08:44Your games are perfectly spaced out. You just roll in from one to the next one, and then all the games have been entertaining. I mean, I just, boy, the World Cup might be my favorite event ever. Ever! It really might be. Ever! And that's the thing, too, is how often do we go into something like, oh, this is going to be awesome. Oh, I can't wait for it. And then it gets here, and it stinks. Like, this thing has lived up to the hype completely, and I don't want to bring up the World Baseball Classic, but that kind of jumps to the front of my mind where it's like, oh, yeah, we're going to win this.

1:09:13This is going to be easy. We're going to be nasty. And then we lose to Italy and everything happens how it does. And this, in the World Cup, I mean, Team USA is dominating. Could we have actually seen that happening? Maybe. But for it to really be taking place, unbelievable. And then when you talk about Messi and Kane and Mbapp and Ronaldo and Harry Kane, I think I already said him. Haaland is the other one I'm missing. Those guys showing up. Like Haaland's second goal last night was ridiculous. It was like a one-timer. He's a giant. He's huge. I love that, man. And he delivers. All these guys delivering has been so cool.

1:09:48Definitely the times being when they are. I think we all remember Cutter in December during football season games being at 2 a.m. Sorry, that's not going to happen. These games are on when we are all up. It has been the perfect World Cup so far.

1:10:02Pat McAfee:Yeah, I love that the Stars are showing up. I love that soccer's getting a big boost. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys AP tone. And the Stars have been delivering. We've been kind of riding with that on DraftKings. Yeah, we talk about the World Cup fever. It helps when all of the casual sports and soccer fans, they probably go to the sports book and they're like, oh, let's get Messi to score. Let's get Mbappé to score. Let's get Haaland to score. Let's get Ronaldo to score. Harry Kane. And then they all do, and their team is winning. There are people who probably have never bet soccer in their life before who are winning thousands and thousands of dollars off of these guys scoring two goals at a time.

1:10:38back-to-back games, their first two games in each group, they've all scored two goals at least. That never, ever, ever happens, and it's happening at this World Cup, and people are feasting off of it.

1:10:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, they certainly are. Now, we remember that the tides can always turn quickly. Certainly. That seemingly does happen, but we will certainly enjoy the moments when the big names are doing everything that we would hope the big names would do on the biggest stage, which is show up and deliver in a big way, including Cristiano Ronaldo just moments ago for Portugal. Joining us now is a man who texted us to tell us that Cristiano Ronaldo scored because we're not able to be watching live, but he is because he's in an attic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion and college football Hall of Fame nominee.

1:11:17Pat McAfee:He's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's a Super Bowl champion. He's also a man who believes that something's going on whenever it comes to aliens. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. Thank you, A.J. You're muted, dickhead. Don't meet your mic, ass ass. It's not on my side. I don't know. That was on my side, fellas. I don't know. I didn't touch anything. I don't know whatever's going on. But yeah, I saw Ronaldo score. He actually kind of missed an opportunity earlier. They had sent a big cross to him. He kind of nubbed it, I guess, and didn't score. And then he redeemed himself.

1:11:46But look for him to go in a run. That dude, I don't know if you guys saw his face. Like, he was so juiced and relieved after that goal, I feel like.

1:11:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, I saw an extra, you know, after. And I just thought of speed, losing his mind to it all. Because with what Messi's been doing and what everybody else has been doing and him being in the Saudi league, okay, which isn't necessarily globally talked about as much as maybe the other leagues. This is a big stage in America for Cristiano Ronaldo to be reminding people, like, hey, sixth World Cup for me as well. First game comes and goes, no goal, Messi's doing his thing, everybody else is starting to wonder about Cristiano. And then just a few moments ago, he had a... Goal!

1:12:29Pat McAfee:And I think the World Cup has been seeing numbers that we've never seen before because I think we've been seeing more goals than we've ever seen before. And I think whenever people see goals, they get excited. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's called a lot of goals.

1:13:06Pat McAfee:over his six-time Emmy Award-winning career, commentator from Telemundo, ladies and gentlemen, Andres Cantor. Hey, guys, how are you? Hey, man, thank God you guys are doing it because I have no voice. I mean, you do great. You really do great. Thank you. We were listening yesterday, as obviously history was set, by Leo Messi whenever it comes to amount of goals in a World Cup. You can tell you got emotional. Obviously, you are Argentinian descent and now one of the voices of a global sport. Yesterday, you lost your mind, but we were just talking about it. Leo showing up and scoring as many goals as he's scoring is huge for the sport, huge for World Cup.

1:13:49And I'm not lying whenever I say the more goals, the better.

1:13:59Pat McAfee:Do you agree with that? And what are your kind of thoughts on the start of the World Cup? A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And the fact is that people, perhaps, you know, the casual viewer only knows Messi, only knows Mbappé, only knows Haaland because of Premier League. And Messi scores. The game in Dallas was at 12 noon. He scores a brace. Then comes France. Mbappé scores a brace. Then comes Norway. Haaland scores a brace. And now Cristiano's on the board. So, I mean, it doesn't get any better than this. This is really, really star power at its best. Look at these guys, you know. Messi has five goals in two games, and the guy is turning 39 tomorrow.

1:14:41Pat McAfee:Can you tell me about Messi a little bit? Because obviously Cristiano Ronaldo, who just scored a goal.

1:14:54Pat McAfee:It was in a GOAT conversation with him, I believe. They are obviously coming up at the same time, both of them in their sixth World Cup. So obviously same age group. Pele of the past obviously chit-chatted about. Let's not even get into Tony Miola, how people talk about him as all-time great in this world. But it did feel like it was Ronaldo and Messi being chatted about. Now it feels like not only because he came to the MLS, but because how he's performing now after already winning a World Cup for his country, he's kind of cemented that status. Is that accurate for us to talk about him like that?

1:15:24Pat McAfee:And what are some other reasons on why? Definitely. I mean, I think the discussion goes nowhere. They're both great football players. Cristiano did his thing in Europe for so many years, as did Messi. Now they're both one in Saudi Arabia, like you said. Leo here at Inter Miami in MLS, and he's shiny. He's the MVP. He scores most of the goals for his team as well. So I think you don't have to enter into the discussion of who is better. because obviously in football, soccer, we judge greatness sometimes. And you guys that play the NFL, you can tell me, can you be the greatest without winning a Super Bowl?

1:16:03Because Cristiano never won the World Cup. And Messi, up to Qatar 2022, wasn't considered the greatest because Maradona had won the World Cup. How is it in NFL terms? I mean, if you break all sorts of records, but you don't win the ring, are you considered one of the greatest?

1:16:21Pat McAfee:You know the answer to that. It sounds like you know the answer to that. So I'm not even going to have to get into that. But that is fascinating because Messi fan in the office, Gumpy has all the Miami FC, Inter-Miami kits and everything like that. Obviously a huge fan of how he plays. He's been saying he's the greatest of all time for a long time. And he feels as if whenever he won the World Cup for Argentina, it almost like freed him. And now he's playing even better. Do you agree with that? And how much longer do we think we see Messi post the stress of winning his country a World Cup? A hundred percent.

1:16:56He needed to because in Argentina, you know, soccer is life and death. And he wasn't judged as the GOAT, as the best, because he had not won the World Cup. And he did in 2022. So now, obviously, he's got that shit off his back. He's, you know, won two Copa Americas. He won the World Cup. He won, you know, MLS title here, another title due to his 41 titles in his career. He's 39 tomorrow. And I don't think we'll see him again, not at the World Cup stage. But, you know, let's enjoy him while he lasts. Let's enjoy him, Cristiano. Kylian Mbappe is younger. So he'll be around and he'll probably break all sorts of records because he's 27, if I'm not wrong.

1:17:40So let's enjoy Messi. We all thought Qatar in 2022 was his last dance. This is definitely Cristiano's and Messi's last dance.

1:17:50Pat McAfee:Hey, Mbappe only needs a few more... Goals! Two more. Yeah. Two more to tie Messi. I mean, but you know what? You were talking about the World Cup, guys. Hey, the best is yet to come. I mean, don't get this wrong. These games in the knockouts, they're very stressful because if you make a mistake, you can go home. But then when it's single elimination starting next week, you will see the real World Cup starting. So the best is yet to come. And I'm glad, I am so glad that Pat McAfee and everyone in this show is enjoying the World Cup and hopefully watching on Telemundo. Yeah, definitely watch on Telemundo, especially across.

1:18:34Pat McAfee:I don't want to say this because it's not good because obviously we stay updated with our phones because we are responsible adults. But here in the Midwest, there's a lot of storms potentially coming for a lot of these games. So the Fox affiliate has to cover the storms obviously live, so it's in a box in box. But guess what? We head over to Telemundo. Guess what we hear? Go!

1:18:57And as this thing progresses, I know who to call if I start losing my voice. No, no, no, no. I don't know if I... Wait, wait, wait, wait. Boston. Boston. Boston Connor, where are you? Yes, sir. Right here. You go. I mean, go one by one. Come on. I can't judge the decibels of everyone. Let's start with Boston. Do a little build-up. Okay, yeah, yeah. Of course, Pulisic passes to the left. All of a sudden, Balogun breaks to the middle. Oh, he's got his head on it. That is a good... No!

1:19:29Pat McAfee:Oh, rusty, rusty, rusty. More gut. More gut. More gut.

1:19:55Oh, my God, man, I think you can do this for a living. Boom. Sign seal delivered. Give me your call. Who wants to go next? No one. You know, the beauty, he knew the American player's name. That's another great thing. Yes. Okay. Yeah, we know.

1:20:17Pat McAfee:Following along. Hey, Pat. You want to go? Hey, Pat, come on. Your standing is better than being sitting down because you can really go longer. I'll tell you. I don't think so. You know how you, in the NFL, they go to like Dean Blandino. who's like in a booth somewhere, maybe you should think about dialing up Con. Just whenever it's like maybe the fifth or sixth goal of the game and maybe you've already worn out all your go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, all the different, I think there's like multiple different ones that you have. Maybe you just go to Con or sitting in his room, just ready to absolutely unload.

1:20:53Pat McAfee:I'll be watching and I'll be ready. AJ was laughing. You want to have a go? Yes. Yeah, go on. Yeah, go on, AJ. I can't talk.

1:21:04AJ, Americans just won the World Cup. Boom! I do have a real question for you, though. What do you think of this American team? We start out 2-0. We're hot. We think we're winning it all. What are your realistic expectations for us? Semifinals. Now, after seeing them play, they play the best football in the opener, which is no small feat because, you know, the nerves. Everyone's very nervous, very anxious that the World Cup is here. It's in home soil. They outplayed part of why they played a hell of a game. to me was the best world cup performance ever uh so the sky's the limit now with this team they're going to have they're already secured the first place they go july 1st to santa clara california they will play one of the best third place teams so they will have hopefully an an easy buy there i mean an easy uh matchup bye and uh semi-final semi-final is uh now uh the expectation the goal So, yeah.

1:21:56Pat McAfee:Okay, I hope soccer fever will go crazy, which leads to this question from Tone. Yeah, Andres, obviously you're Argentinian, but you moved here when you were a teenager. Could you have expected in your whole life being here in the U.S. that soccer would ever be like this in the U.S.? I feel like the fever is incredible. The World Cup is incredible. The stadiums are packed to the brim. Did you know before this 2026 World Cup that it could be like this? Is this what you expected? I had a little taste in 1994 when it was a different era of soccer and the World Cup was played in our country. I knew it was going to be a success.

1:22:32Furthermore, the president of FIFA, Gianni Infantino, is using my line all along that it's 104 Super Bowls in 39 days of competitions. And I think that is what it is. I mean, the atmosphere, not only the stadiums, let me tell you guys, you know, in the cities where the games are played, it's tremendous. It's really, really good. And yeah, I expected, I mean, I'm with Ty. I didn't think that yesterday, Algiers against Jordan in Santa Clara were going to pack 67 ,000 people. Honestly, I did not. And it doesn't matter how cheap or how expensive the tickets were yesterday. But hey, they played before a full house.

1:23:10Can you imagine that? Algiers against Jordan in San Francisco, Santa Clara, California. So going back to your question, yes, I expected the World Cup to be big. It's getting bigger. is going to get even, you know, bigger if the U.S. national team does well. And they're doing a hell of a job so far.

1:23:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, us knowing Freeman, too, and the family and being able to tie it together is awesome. Him being a young star. Us knowing the names from last World Cup. You know, I think a lot of people kind of knew the names from last World Cup whenever it was the topic of discussion. But now just such better outcomes and seemingly a much better product. Now, on that note, I got to be there in L.A. It felt fantastic. Gumpy was down in Houston for the Dutch Sweden game or whatever. And Connor has a last question for you here, Andres. Yeah, Andres, when it comes to the atmospheres in the stadium, you mentioned the game last night, and it feels like every single one has been massive.

1:24:04You've been to a lot of World Cups. As far as the fans inside the stadium and also just experiencing America, Mexico, everywhere the games are, is this the best it's ever been? Because it feels like, at least from the outside, looking in and Pat and Gump, they've been to the games. It feels as though this is kind of the most celebrated and most successful fan atmosphere experience thus far. It probably is because it brings people, you know, we could have sold out stadiums in this country just with the expats alone. If we would have closed our borders, we could have sold out all the stadiums with all the Ecuadorians, with all the Argentinians, with all the Colombians, with all the Scots, I am sure of that.

1:24:46So people who are coming into the States for the first time because of the World Cup are experiencing, you know, the beauty of our country. I mean, the organization, I have to say, has been superb. The stadiums have been, you know, they've been touched up a little bit. They're not your usual NFL stadium because FIFA takes over and it gives you that World Cup feeling everywhere you go from the minute you park your car until you enter the stadium. And you have the Fan Fest and you have people from all over. and it's bringing people together, guys. It's bringing people together. Not anywhere else do you see, you know, two nationalities embracing and just cheering on the World Cup like I've seen in all the stadiums I've been so far.

1:25:27Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's been special to watch. It feels like it's a special time in, like, our society's history. And I think the more... Goal!

1:25:44Pat McAfee:the better. You're the man. We appreciate you. Good luck the rest of the way. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, a gift to society. Andres Cantor. Yeah! Andres! We got one. Yeah, the man. I was wondering if he was just going to let us do it every time, you know? Impersonation is the greatest form of flattery or whatever, you know? He was just going to let us continue to just give him his flowers. Happy we got one with him, and he got one by himself. Yeah, it won. Thank God. That's like if you get buffer on and just immediately go, what are we getting ready for? What are we, what are we getting ready?

1:26:22Pat McAfee:What are we, what are we, we should all.

1:26:28Pat McAfee:Let's get ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, finish. Do that, do that. That was awesome. I have that. Oh, yeah. We have that forever now. Now, I would like to say it is an honor that we have that forever now. Sure. and watching a soccer game with him is an experience because i don't understand you know i don't really understand what's going on but i feel like i do you know it's great i mean those guys he is yeah he is the tip of the spear we watch highlights we watch highlights for him earlier just no idea what he's saying in between just names and then the oh yeah it's almost passion it's constantly screaming for two and a half hours pretty much literally telling the story of Living on every single touch of the ball.

1:27:11Pat McAfee:Oh, he's having to swing. All right. Swing, swing, swing. All right. Oh. Now we go back. It's unbelievable. I don't know how he has the gas to be able to do it. So whenever he said, like, hey, I'm a little bit dry, I did think that was real because I could see how he could not speak after those games. It's a long game. He's getting a hydration break, though, too. Yeah, needs it. You're right. They don't like the hydration break. I think we're just kind of used to it. Big time. Doesn't bother me. And it breaks up the game a little. Doing a quarter? Okay, sweet. Let Paunch get on his shit. Yeah, exactly.

1:27:43Is it always at the same time? Do they know when they're coming?

1:27:45Pat McAfee:21 minutes in, I think, and then like 57 or something, 67. I forget what it is. Oh. But it is like quarters. There's some breaking news in the NFL. Unbelievable. Oh, oh, oh. Hey, Jim, we have some breaking news in the NFL. Go ahead. What is the breaking news? Yeah, it just came through Schefter's Twitter. NFL's declining to hold a supplemental draft this summer. Okay, that's a huge deal, obviously. Yesterday was the deadline for applications. Brendan Soresby was the one who applied publicly, obviously, to the supplemental draft. It all came down to, I believe, Roger Goodell inevitably having to make a decision after talking to everybody around the NFL and kind of getting an understanding of what everybody's thoughts were.

1:28:24Pat McAfee:Just in, the NFL is declining to hold a supplemental draft this summer, currently leaving the 2027 draft as the only way for Brendan Soresby to enter the NFL. A letter is being sent to Sorsby and to all 32 NFL teams to inform them of the league's decision. This league continues to try to show it as little tolerance for gambling issues. We mentioned this a couple different times as this came up. It's like, hey, there's going to be people in the NFL that are like, yeah, right, dude. Not with our league, not with our game. That can't come anywhere close to it. I did not expect this at all, AJ. Honestly, with the way it was being talked about, about how, hey, most guys, most people we're talking to are saying second round, he's a first-round talent.

1:28:58Pat McAfee:Obviously, the NFL has been forgiving in the past if you have talent. And now the NFL is saying, you can do next draft, dude. That's what you're going to do. And then we'll evaluate you then. I think this is a surprising decision, A.J. Hawk. This is very surprising. I mean, I think we both said when we heard, like, oh, well, it's up to the league if they have the draft or not. We said, well, it's going to happen. We know it's going to happen. We thought it would. I guess this is what? This is Raj's way of, you know, I guess of punishing Soresby right now. They can't come back and after he gets drafted in 2027 say, hey, you've got to sit out four games, can they?

1:29:30Like, they wouldn't do that.

1:29:31Pat McAfee:I don't know because I think what this next year could potentially just be framed as the year suspension that he would potentially have to serve. And that's we'll wait until official, I guess, quote from the NFL. Can he go play in the UFL? Can he go play in the UFL? I think so, right? I think he could go do the UFL. I wonder about the CFL. I wonder about that type of stuff. I wonder if he'll just prepare for the draft, which we've seen guys take off their senior year, their last year, and just prepare for the draft and kind of go about doing their life that way. So there's a multitude of options now for Sorsby, one of which is also to say you have to open a supplemental draft.

1:30:04Pat McAfee:Isn't there some sort of, I assume? Yeah, we talked about this with Shefty on his podcast this morning, and he said he was expecting that there was no way that they would decline it because he just assumed that litigation would follow probably. If they say no, you would assume that he could sue or there could be something like that, but who knows? Apparently not. All right, we'll talk to Shefter at the end of the hour here. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, as we pivot away from a major news story in the NFL to a major champion from this past weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, two-time U.S. Open champ.

1:30:38Pat McAfee:A man who joined the program last week, which we're obviously incredibly pumped for, because then he would go on to win, just a few days later, a major championship. So we can never be deemed as a curse. Thank you to this man for that. Ladies and gentlemen, Wyndham Clark. Yeah, Wyndham! What's up, boys? Wyndham. forever we now have you so thank you so much because every once in a while we'll be a part of some uh unfortunate situations okay somebody will come on show some ass will happen just a few days later we get blamed for it okay that has happened more than often uh than not on my uh my mentions but i will always just defer to wyndham clark came on the show wins a fucking major wire to wire literally just a couple days later let's talk about all of it first day uh everybody says you get lucky with the wind you get lucky with the wind you take advantage of it obviously there's other people golfing at the same time you were you took advantage of it the most then you have to sleep on that then the rest of the weekend everybody kind of has the similar weather and you just dial in the flat stick and dominate there was a shot on 16 where he had to come out of the thickness can you just tell me about the mental battle that you had all weekend and then obviously if you want to talk about shinnecock kind of showing its teeth to you would love to hear about but what a wonderful performance by you that we will brag about forever so thank you for making that happen for us window oh yeah you're yeah you're very welcome i think part of the reason why the curse didn't happen is i didn't even know about it so i guess ignorance was bliss um so i didn't know either i didn't know either brother and i know it's not real now so let's uh let's go ahead and celebrate ignorance is bliss but wire to wire bell to bell the mental toughness of that is absurd especially with some people cheering against you how did that go versus maybe the course itself yeah i mean that honestly that was one of the biggest challenges um you know the first few days you know people were cheering for me and they were rooting for good golf shots etc but as we got to saturday people wanted me to um you know miss putts and were cheering for me to miss putts they were you know yelling some profanities and whatnot just simply because they didn't want me to win but also they maybe wanted a closer championship and then come sunday I mean, they wanted anyone and everyone but me.

1:32:51And so that was a challenge. Now, Shinnecock is a very tough golf course. And, you know, that in itself is difficult. So those two combined made for a tough Sunday. But, you know, I persevered and I embraced the challenge. And, you know, I thought if I just showed the fans love and kindness that they would ultimately root for me at the end. I don't know if they did, but maybe next time I'm there, they'll be pulling for me instead of against me.

1:33:16Pat McAfee:I thought the way you handled it was very well done. Your answer afterwards was spectacular. Your answer last week to Tone, who obviously used to caddy at Oakmont, was spectacular. I think you understand the elephant in the room. I think you've been made aware of it, obviously, enough, and now you're trying to earn people back, which I think is exactly what you said in that. And I think your performance certainly did that as well. There was a couple shots like this one right here. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Wyndham, 16 was unbelievable. Obviously, you're up one stroke now, three holes to play, and you pull it into the native area off the tee.

1:33:46and Bones, who used to be Phil Mickelson's caddy, said it was a horrendous lie on the broadcast. He said it was horrible. There was no way that you were going to be able to get out, and you do. You clear the bunker. You're in position A here for your third shot, and then you sink a 25-foot birdie, maybe longer. What was your thinking coming out of that native area? And then after you hit this birdie, what was your thoughts? Well, Bones, I think, was just teeing me up because it was definitely a tough lie, but it wasn't maybe as tough as he made it out to be. But there was definitely some talk between my caddy and I.

1:34:22He made sure multiple times, like, hey, can you cover this? You sure? You feel confident? And with golf, if you can get to the back of the ball, you can get the ball out and hit it farther. And even though there was a lot of grass around me, I could hit the ball first. And so I thought, you know what? I think I can muscle this out. definitely closer to the bunker than I thought, but glad it covered. And then, you know, making that putt was kind of the pivotal point of the round. It gave me, you know, two shot lead with two to go. So I felt way more comfortable. And, and now it's definitely the most emotion and the loudest I've ever been on a golf course.

1:35:00Cause hardly anyone, as you can see is clapping for me or wanting me, but I sure definitely showed my emotion. And that was kind of like a, you know, that defining moment for the day.

1:35:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, we could feel it through the screen, brother. I mean, there was a couple of tweets I put out there about this being one of the most wild things I've ever seen, you know, and then other people were talking about never seen an American golfer get treated like this in America. And once again, can't stress this enough. The way you handled it was phenomenal. Now, Rory told a guy he was a fatso, which we saw live. So I think the New York people are going to chat a little bit in this whole thing. But I like that you were focused on your golf. I like that you were locked in on getting the job done.

1:35:40Pat McAfee:And I like that you're a dog, dude. You wear the Jack Hughes jersey up in Canada a week beforehand. You got an entire crowd pulling against you. And then on the 18th hole, you have to lag putt one from like what, 40 feet? I don't know how far it is. 57 maybe? Whatever. And you could, majors on the line, everybody in there is hoping that you leave some meat on the bone. Everybody in there. Not everybody. Obviously, there's people pulling for you. But in your mind, I I assume it feels like everybody here wants me to leave a little meat on the bone and in golf, a sport where you have to have so much touch and you can't get tense up or anything like that.

1:36:14Pat McAfee:The lag pot here is something that needs to be talked about as well. What are your, what's going through your mind and how do you keep like, how do you not get hands either? How do you not like, what is kind of your routine to not have that happen when that's a huge moment in your life? Obviously. You weren't part of the everybody, right, Pat? No, I was pulling for you. I was on your side. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure. Read through the socials. on your back. I did go through some mentions with you in notifications last week. And I didn't know that, that people were like really, really upset with like how you act sometimes.

1:36:46Pat McAfee:I didn't know in the Oakmont thing that Tone asked about, obviously, because he was a caddy. We didn't know he was going to ask about that, but he wasn't the only one. It felt like a lot of people were still, you know, I didn't know that that was the case until our mentions together last week.

1:37:01Pat McAfee:So This is a super mental test right now, especially in a sport where you have to be relaxed. I don't think you can get tense. I don't think you can get mad. And that putt, I think, is a great depiction of that. How do you not want to tell somebody to go fuck themselves, especially with what they were saying about you and that all, while also having enough touch on these greens that are allegedly the hardest in the history because it's a USGA course? This lag putt, what is going through your mind? How do you kind of handle all those things? And in golf, can you have a dog mentality that you want to fight people while you're golfing?

1:37:34Pat McAfee:Like, how do you kind of approach that? Well, the lag putt I'll talk about first. In 23, I had a similar situation. Honestly, it was like deja vu. I hit it in the fairway. I hit it to the front of the green, and I had a two-putt to win. And I had a one-shot lead, and I hit it up there to gimme range. And so I literally just envisioned that and said, hey, I've done this before. I can do it again. And obviously, I did that. So that it was honestly deja vu as I'm walking up. I'm like, this is wild. And then as far as the attitude thing. Yeah, I mean, sure, there are some things in my mind I was thinking, but, you know, it's a gentleman's sport.

1:38:10And I also I didn't want to feed into the crowd. I wanted to try to win them over and show them that I'm not the person that did that terrible thing at Oakmont. And I wanted them to see this is the real wind them. This is, you know, I'm a dog. I want to I want to win. I'm a competitor. and I'm going to do it in class.

1:38:30Pat McAfee:Listen, I got pissed, acted like an asshole. I'm sorry. Now, with that being said, watch me go wire to wire here. Okay, and of course, everybody said it was impossible and played multiple different ways. Can you tell me about the different styles of Shinnecock over the weekend and also the greens, how they were changing every single time? Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Wyndham, I can't remember what the stat was, but it was something about the average player on tour makes you know what might have been like 10 uh 10 plus feet yeah here we go plus from 2025 feet you know 12 and you were at 50 on the week which is just absurd is that the best you've putted over a four day period in your life and also how like like pat mentioned how much different was it playing because we saw i think it was friday night after you got out to that big lead they basically like the report came out like hey they're gonna make the greens faster like we're changing this so it's going to be a little bit more treacherous over the weekend.

1:39:24Did you notice any change in that or not really? Because it sure as hell didn't look like you did. Yeah. You know, I've had some other great putting displays. I would say just a few weeks ago at the Byron Nelson was hands down, maybe the best putting of my career or my final round 60 at Pebble. But as far as a four day tournament, I mean, relative to the field. Yeah, this is definitely, definitely up there. And, and the greens did change the first day. you know I was playing with Dustin Johnson and Gary we couldn't believe how soft and benign the greens were now granted they were expecting tons of wind and potentially rain and so the USGA did an amazing job setting up the golf course and highlighting how good Shinnecock is rather than you know making it look tricked up and the same thing was on Friday it was it was kind of benign and you could make putts Saturday it's like I don't even know how you can change a golf course that much in 24 hours.

1:40:19It went from being soft greens, you could spin it back to where, I mean, it was getting purple. It was so baked out and the greens got so difficult and any wind was moving the ball. Guys were finally bouncing over greens. And they even then adjusted it Saturday because they thought maybe it got out of control. And I think some guys complained about it. Then it got to like really pure and good on Sunday where it was like a perfect firmness. it was fast but not too fast you know so it was amazing it changed literally every day but uh i

1:40:50Pat McAfee:think that's what they want though right the usga wants the courses that they take the us open to to be a real challenge for the golfers i think they were probably happy with where the scores ended up yeah you know there's like three guys under par i think they thought that they were doing live interviews while you were burying these putts the president like we we took a lot of pride in this year making it right getting it right having four different courses is a hilarious thing for you guys to have to adjust to especially with some of those punishments man hey there was some real punishment on that course bro i was watching people look like me out there on some of those golf courses you sometimes yeah i mean there is that's hard brother the mental toughness to battle through that and i like how you brought up uh some guys complained you can't do that for the rest of your career no you can't complain one time that's like kind of a part of this whole thing now you can't nope no no complaining no no not at all like that's real like you zero that's what people are going to say i don't want to hear shit from wyndham clark i don't want to hear okay that is uh but i think you've understood that and i love that you're still winning while doing it and speaking of winning there were some special moments obviously go ahead connor yeah wyndham especially with the environment and just kind of the whole entire vibe of the crowd when you end up winning and you come off and your girlfriend's there your friends you know there's a clip of you walking off saying hey we're drinking tonight which was awesome and then of course your dad Your dad flying in on Father's Day.

1:42:09How much more special was that moment because of what the environment had been all weekend toward you? Yeah, I mean, my dad hasn't seen me play live in a while and especially seen me win a tournament in person. And so it was amazing to have him there to win on Father's Day, to share that special moment with him is something I'll remember for the rest of my life. You know, I haven't really cried since last year at Oakmont. And it's amazing a year later, instead of, you know, tears of, you know, embarrassment, it was tears of joy. And it was awesome to spend it with my dad. Wendem, I have to ask you about, I talked about 16 earlier and how impressive that was.

1:42:51What about the Eagle on Saturday? I can't remember what hole it was, but you played the big. It was 16. It was 16. Again, 16 was great for you all week then. You played the big banana perfectly to, I mean, to basically a tap in Eagle here. what was your thoughts going to that is that and that was during the Saturday conditions that you said were almost impossible yeah well it was huge because the fans were all kind of leaving we were playing so late there was hardly anyone there and it was kind of weird like you know it's Saturday the US Open and I have a lead and you know there's Scotty shot a good round and you know you would think there'd be a lot of buzz so it was a little flat it was weird and I hit it in there and people it was funny as hardly anyone cheered that was in the stands and we i looked i'm like oh i think that's pretty close and you know making that eagle just kind of extended my lead to i think seven at that point and it was you know it's one of those things that you had just had so much momentum going for me and that's one of those shots i'll remember for the rest of my life it's definitely one of the best three woods in the moment you know under the circumstances at that

1:43:54Pat McAfee:tough golf course i love that you're making so many life moments happen you know just one year after maybe a moment that you always have to think about but maybe have changed drastically from. We're proud of you, buddy. It was so much fun to ride alongside the U.S. Open with you. Obviously, right after you come on our show, we all bet on you. So thank you for that. Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, we were very grateful for you, brother. So we can't wait to finish the season alongside you. Hey, in the caddy world, they get 10 % of winnings. I do the same with betting, so I'll send you my Venmo. All right, cut a piece of that trophy, and I want 10 % of that too.

1:44:30Yeah.

1:44:32Pat McAfee:Well, and if Connor's getting – I would like that as well. Okay. I'll take 10 % as well. I want 10 % of his winnings, not the trophy. Okay, so you said fuck the trophy. Yeah. Okay, I respect that. Well, we're going to have to also win more tournaments because I would like a full trophy. Yeah, true. So we need – Okay. Back-to-back travelers. Then just interview me before every big major, and then we'll just, you know, comprise all the trophies and make a nice – we'll make a Pat McAfee trophy. There you go. Deal. Okay, so we have you before every single major. sounds like what I heard. That's great news for us.

1:44:59The open royal book. Guys, my agent's over here shaking his head, but yeah, sure.

1:45:03Pat McAfee:See, that's how my brain immediately thought there. I was like, holy shit. He just committed to that. We heard it. Two-time major champ. I want to make you guys a golf show here soon. I'd love that, first of all. And I want to let you know I'm back in the game. I did retire from it for a while, AJ. Everybody, we kind of went through that together. I'm back in the game. I'm back in the game, coming out of the pocket. Key was shallow. Yeah. Right in the slot. Maybe don't have your head lift. You know, you still kind of want to like watch the ball a little bit. What does this guy know? Hey, listen, this is not how this is going to go.

1:45:34Pat McAfee:I appreciate you, man. I do, genuinely. Thank you for joining us. Congratulations, and we'll talk to you soon. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Wyndham Clark. Yeah, Wyndham! What are you, perfect your whole life? People that are judging Wyndham Clark? Exactly. I did see a lot of it, and someone had an explanation. Not an explanation, but yeah, those things did happen. but also there was an open where Brooksy was up like seven shots on Sunday, and he was a very, very fan favorite at that time, and everyone was rooting against him at that time because the fans also who are there on Sunday, they want to see a close golf tournament too.

1:46:05They don't want to see some guy win by seven.

1:46:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, and they're just more vocal in some places than other places. And up there on Long Island, they're potentially going to be telling people that they're 10 feet from, saying, hey, Bob, let's make this thing interesting. And you're with Scotty, who is beloved. Okay, so according to my source, this was the response that was sent to Brendan Soresby from the league. Dear Mr. Soresby, we are in receipt of your petition for special eligibility dated June 16, 2026. As announced earlier today, the league has elected not to conduct a supplemental draft this year. Under our collective bargaining agreement, the league retains sole discretion to determine whether it is appropriate to conduct a supplemental draft in any given year.

1:46:54Pat McAfee:The league has not conducted such a draft for several years, and prior to your submission, the league had no plans to do so this year, as no other player has sought entry. Your petition, filed three business days before the deadline, without any supporting information or documentation, and only after abandoning your recent litigation efforts to avoid NCAA sanctions, does not provide a basis for the league to alter those plans. The issues presented by your petition are too significant and too closely tied to the league's core integrity interests to permit meaningful review within the timeline presented.

1:47:27Pat McAfee:The sole reasons identified in your petition for seeking entry into the supplemental draft are that you have been declared ineligible by the NCAA, have exhausted all of your avenues to continue in the NCAA, and want to now play in the NFL. The petition provides no information regarding the basis for or timing of the NCAA's decision. Public sources, however, indicate that in May 2026, the NCAA issued a determination declaring you permanently ineligible from participation in college athletics. based on a sustained pattern of improper gambling activity during your collegiate career at three different universities.

1:48:00Pat McAfee:The league does not have the complete record of the NCAA's investigation and you did not provide any such materials with your petition. Available information nonetheless indicates that over the course of your collegiate career you knowingly engaged in repeated and significant violations of NCAA rules designed to preserve the integrity of athletic competition. Reported conduct includes placing wagers on your own team and teammates and to avoid detection, establishing or funding accounts in the names of intermediaries who place the bets on your behalf. There are also reports that you may have violated state criminal law.

1:48:29Pat McAfee:Your petition does not address these matters, nor does it demonstrate accountability for your conduct or indicate whether or how you would adhere to the league's rules and policies governing the integrity of competition. Instead, even after receiving notice of the NCAA's decision rescinding your college eligibility in May, you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, and you pursued entry into the NFL only after abandoning those efforts. As Commissioner Goodell has emphasized, participation in the NFL is a privilege that carries with it significant responsibilities, including accountability.

1:49:00Pat McAfee:By all accounts, you are a talented player with the potential for future success. We encourage you to focus on preparing for possible entry into the NFL through the 2027 NFL Annual Draft. Sincerely, Lawrence P. Farizani Jr. Wow. Joining us now, how did we get to that point? Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yes, Schefter. Shefty, thank you for joining us from your meal. Okay, obviously taking some time. Well, I got to tell you, I got to tell you this. I do want to say this before we get to Brendan Sorsby. So I have a great friend from college, Robert Grenadier. And he sent out a letter four months ago.

1:49:31He's turning 60 years old. And he wanted to get together 60 friends for his 60th birthday to have lunch. So he scheduled this lunch, which I'm sitting at right now eating my split pea soup. And he's right here. And we're embarking on this really philosophical discussion. And Brendan Sorsby happens to happen during the 60th birthday lunch for Robert Grenadier.

1:49:50Pat McAfee:Here we go. Happy birthday to Robert Grenadier. Okay. We certainly are. Hey, Bob. Hey, Bob. Hey, Bob. Hey, Robert Grenadier. We're happy for you, buddy. Hey. Hey, everybody. Hey, everybody. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, this guy. He must be drinking olive oil. Hey. You got great skin. Pat, we picked this day, June 23rd. All the NFL teams are gone. What could happen on June? Nothing. Nothing's going to happen. We're going to have a great lunch. And the next thing you know, here we are doing the Pat McAfee show and talking about Brendan Sersby. So let's get to it. The NFL essentially sent him a letter.

1:50:29And the NFL is declining to hold a supplemental draft. And honestly, something was amiss with this all along. because every time you spoke to people around the league about when the supplemental draft would be and whether or not there would be a supplemental draft, I always got pauses, and there were never clear-cut answers. And like, oh, the commissioner's got to decide to have it. I'm like, what is the issue? Well, the issue is that the league, despite any gambling partnerships, the league really does not want any part of gambling, no matter how serious it is or isn't. And anybody that has any role with that, anybody who has any accusations, involved with gambling, even though the NCAA said that there were no integrity of the game violations, the league doesn't care.

1:51:15It's the league's supplemental draft. And the league does not want to create a supplemental draft this year for a player who has been accused of gambling. They don't have enough time to vet it. They don't care that they don't have enough time to vet it. It's easier for them to just say, we're not doing this. We don't want to do it. We're not making exception for somebody who admitted to bet on games of a school that he was at even if he was in his dorm room and the team was on the road at the time and so right now brendan soarsby is shut out he's ineligible to play in college football he doesn't have an avenue to the national football league the next time the league wants anything to do with him would be in the 2027 nfl draft now i think it said maybe okay well i think brendan soresby is now going to challenge this legally but what option is he gonna have they're not gonna have the supplemental draft it's gonna come and go the league's just gonna take the can down the road and brendan soresby's gonna i think wind up spending this season maybe beyond this season certainly out of football watching and getting ready for what he hopes would be the 2027 nfl draft okay shefter quick just 30 seconds here uh

1:52:31Pat McAfee:ufl possibility here for soresby is this uh possible or what do you think about that you know pat it's a great question because we haven't seen a player recently in this situation where he's denied entrance to all the league like he could have made a lot of money playing college football he could have made a lot of money nfl college doesn't want him the nfl doesn't want him now the question is does he want to just train and get ready for his future nfl career we've seen before does he want or does he want to go to canada or the ufl or somewhere that deploys his talents and pays him some nominal fee where he's risking an injury yeah like what if you go play and what are these injuries and suffer a significant injury is that worth it i don't know there's so much happening in such little time you're the man tell bob grenier we said happy birthday that's that we'll be back tomorrow yes people we continue digitally goodbye

1:53:31Pat McAfee:okay that um shout out to bob grenier aj the the letter the the note there that source says sent to me it's like i think the nfl didn't love just the lack of like Like, you know. Accountability. Like trying to make it, yeah. Like the pitch. I think the pitch to opening of the supplemental draft was very like, hey, you should open this up for me, as opposed to like, I did this. I was wrong here. I think this could be a benefit. I think this could be a benefit. Here is what they were saying about it, but here's real. It's like maybe the NFL thinks they didn't take it seriously enough in the application of the supplemental draft, and they just assumed that it was going to happen because he's a good football player, which he certainly is.

1:54:16Pat McAfee:and I think the NFL might have felt a little disrespected maybe in how this all goes. Is that what you kind of heard there, AJ? Yeah, just from hearing you talk about that letter that they sent him, yeah, it felt like they said multiple times, like you failed to provide this information. You said this should happen, but you failed to show us the studies or show us certain documentation on certain things. It felt like, yeah, they thought that he would. It seems like the NFL feels like, oh, he feels entitled, like, hey, this is going to happen. and you have to let this happen, whatever. But as Sheppy said, now that they made this decision, there's not enough time to do anything.

1:54:50You can litigate, do whatever. It's just going to continue to go on. He's not going to be able to play in college or the NFL next year. If I were him, I would not keep this going in litigation. I would not try to sue the NFL to have the draft.

1:55:04Pat McAfee:Because he's an actual good player. Yeah. It's happened before. It happened during COVID a lot. Yes, exactly. Train and then go in the 2027 draft. And if you don't get drafted for some reason, which he absolutely will get drafted, then you can explore. But they said at the end, maybe you get into the 2026. Yeah, and I think that's what's interesting is the language of that wasn't like letting him down easy. That was a pretty emphatic like, hey, fuck you, buddy. Like, we're not making any special circumstances for you. We're not doing that. So we'll see. I mean, I guess, yeah, if you have enough time, you can be remorseful and maybe say like, hey, having thought about it, I made a lot of mistakes.

1:55:39I shouldn't have done that. But, yeah, it does kind of seem like either him or his representatives thought, like, well, you know, like, I'm kind of owed this. You know, I mean, and even all of us, we were kind of talking about it. Like, yeah, the gambling thing is one thing, but it did certainly seem like, hey, this guy could be a top 15 pick in the draft. Like, no matter what, they're probably going to do the supplemental draft for him because the quarterback is a very important position in the league. Can he go back to Texas Tech? No. Okay, that's completely off the table. Yeah, I think so, yeah.

1:56:10Because Big 12 said that they'll do the litigation. Okay, they did start. I thought that was just like, hey, we're going to get it together. Because he filed for the supplemental, I don't think he can either.

1:56:21Pat McAfee:He can't go back. I don't know. All I know is I felt like such a. I felt like such a bad, mean person. That's it. Not a bad person. I'm a mean person. Whenever we were talking about supplemental drafting, I was like, hey, we actually know the NFL a little bit. There's some old people that are going to be in there that are going to be like, we ain't fucking having any gambling in our league. Yeah. Like that is, that is a real thing. And I think people forget about that because in theory is always like how people talk about things. Like in theory, this should happen. In theory, this is the right thing that should happen.

1:56:59Pat McAfee:In theory, this is what should happen. And in theory, a lot of things should happen. But in reality, you got humans involved in a lot of shit. And humans obviously have different ideas and opinions and egos and everything like that. And sometimes people just wake up in a bad mood. You know, sometimes you're just not 100%. And when humans are making decisions, I think it's hard to just necessarily say that this is going to be an absolute. And this one, I wonder who all was talked to, you know, like, how do we get to this decision? Because obviously there was an application and I assume they like went through it and were like, that's it?

1:57:30Like, what are we, what about all the other? Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

1:57:33Pat McAfee:We're supposed to call them to get more stuff to answer these questions. This is the break. This is the summer for us. Like, this is actually the three weeks where we have off. This is the only time. So we're supposed to dig into what you, okay. So we are supposed to look into your stuff while we're doing it. And then also that easily provides the opportunity for the person to say, and we're just going to let the, we're going to be this guy gamble. We're just going to, that like, yeah. And it sounded like it was probably never going to happen, huh? This probably, this probably was never going to, the supplemental draft was probably never going to happen.

1:58:05Pat McAfee:They did mention three days. Bingo. They didn't like the timing. It was like, Hey, we're not going to be your saving grace. Okay. Yeah, you could have either decided a long time ago that you were going to do this after it initially was, you know, the ruling came down that you were going to be ineligible. But, like, this isn't like you tried to go back and play college football, and then that didn't work out. Like, we're not just here for you because that didn't work out. So, yeah, I mean, I was surprised how emphatically they were just like, no, no, this ain't the way it works. It's crazy time.

1:58:36Pat McAfee:All right, let's talk about sports that are good. Congratulations to the Oklahoma Sooner. There you go. The SEC now has won eight straight Men's College World Series. The Oklahoma Sooners took bat to butt last night in game three of a best of three series in the national championship against the University of North Carolina. Now these stats about this Oklahoma team during the regular season, during their SEC conference schedule, during SEC tournament time, how they performed, and then how hot they got in the postseason. Start out a race, you ain't going to go super race, you ain't going to get to Omaha.

1:59:09Pat McAfee:and the bats got hot and the pitching got great. Congratulations to Oklahoma changing the story of their season whenever it mattered the most. And now they walk out of there with another natty. North Carolina was looking to win their first ever. I believe this is eighth now, I think, for Oklahoma, their eighth national championship as a baseball team. But this year they weren't supposed to win, I don't think, though. This was not the year that they were supposed to go on this run, and they do. That's some magic of sport, brother. Yeah, when we were talking to Coach Sabins yesterday of West Virginia, they finished 11th in the SEC.

1:59:38They had a below 500 record in the SEC. I mean, their overall record was like 40-something and 20. So, I mean, overall it was great. But as far as the SEC went, they were below 500, and then they got super hot during all the regionals.

1:59:50Pat McAfee:Third title, sorry, not eighth. Jesus, that's on me. Maybe if you combine it with Patty Gasso's championships, maybe it's eighth for Oklahoma together. There we go, man. Maybe, potentially. Yeah, probably. But, no, they just got hot. And, I mean, all of their games were basically blowouts, except for the one that they lost to UNC to force the game three. It was a hell of a run for the Sooners. Third national championship for Oklahoma baseball. I do apologize. That's on me. I saw a wrong stat there. Eighth SEC straight. Straight. Yeah, so that is certainly something. The ACC ranks second over that span with 18.

2:00:18Pat McAfee:The SEC has won 64 men's college World Series games across the last seven tournaments dating to 2019. I don't think that's going to change, too, with NIL. I think the southern baseball folks are going to stick with their southern baseball folks. Correct. I think that's only going to continue. And obviously the weather is very much more conducive to a baseball schedule. J.R. House played football at West Virginia, Hurricane West Virginia, and then he'd fly down to Florida to do baseball for the rest of the year. It's like I think the South has an advantage for baseball because of the weather, naturally, but don't look now.

2:00:51Pat McAfee:West Virginia is developing players better than anybody said Steve Saban. He did say that. He did say that. Iowa doesn't have a baseball team, Big Ten, what's going on? No, they certainly do. So what is it, SEC, ACC, Big 12, Big Ten? No, I mean, Big Ten had, you know, UCLA's in the Big Ten, and they were the number one ranked team in the nation all year. You know, USC made it to the Super Region. It really, it's one of those things where college baseball is, I mean, look who made it to Omaha this year. There's like a bunch of teams who no one really thought they would get there. So you could say that, but it'd be wrong.

2:01:25Well, see, that's where I, you know, Oklahoma's a fucking Big 12 team. Okay, so the SEC can claim them. but I'm retroactively I'm going to give this national championship to the Big 12 so congratulations. Thank you so much.

2:01:37Pat McAfee:I like that. He's our baseball guy so if he's saying it that feels real. How's baseball going? I saw a stat with Skeeno I didn't like. Yeah, I mean we're in the dog days right now. No, but it was like seven straight games of Skeeno pitching on the bump we lose. Yeah, I mean it's kind of the same old story. Tony could probably tell you better. The guy's pitching to contact instead of, you know, whatever. I wasn't going to say that. What's that mean? I was going to say the Buccos don't give this guy any fucking run support, but most hits in the MLB. He's giving up the most hits? No, no, no, no. The Pirates have the most hits in the MLB.

2:02:12Pat McAfee:Yeah, you know what I don't like about those damn hits? They don't get home. The timing in which the hits happen are not great. And what are you talking about with throwing a contact as opposed to anything else? There's just some speculation, some numbers out there that the fastball's down about a mile and a half. What? What? It's a big difference. You know where that comes in. Pitching a contact instead of, you know. Why? What did he do in training camp or preseason to get what happened? We're not doing that again. Oh, yeah. Buckos are still over 500. We're good. Yeah, we're still running. Who's doing the best from that World Baseball Classic team?

2:02:45Like, what individual is playing the best? The Pirates are above 500. The trainers. They're all getting bonuses. All right. Mason Miller. Mason Miller, maybe? Yeah, Mason Miller. PCA. But it's because they really limited the amount of pitches. Just he could throw. Shorbo, yeah, Shorbo. Shorbo's on fire. Freaking 30 bombs already. Bryce Harper's not doing that. See? But they had to fire their coach for them to start playing. Yeah, exactly.

2:03:09Pat McAfee:Philadelphia, home run derby. Just a couple weeks away. Then the All-Star game. Then the ESPYs. What? Everything is kind of all happening there in a few weeks. We'll be back then. We'll be off for a little bit. Yep. Then we'll be back then. Coming in hot. That week's going to be unbelievable. So hot, yeah. Yeah, like so fun. Coming in real hot. Isn't the World Cup final that Saturday too? Yeah. So the USA will be there, yeah. So here we go. Ole, ole, ole. Go, go, go. USA, USA, USA. The cup is ours. We're going to celebrate. Here we go. USA, USA, USA. From the top. Here we go USA, USA, USA Go, go, go USA, USA, USA Tonight's the night We come to celebrate So here we go USA, USA, USA Alright I think the US fans should stick to singing songs in the stadium instead of trying to come up with Chance because I've seen some videos, not real good Is that what we just did right here?

2:04:21We, not everyone is as talented as we are. Just do U-S-A.

2:04:29Pat McAfee:Over. U-S-A. And then maybe when we have the ball and we're attacking, speed it up like the shark. Yeah. U-S-A. U-S-A. And then we slow it down and we take it back. Clap. U-S-A. A-U-S-A. And then all of a sudden, you kick it up. U-S-A. U-S-A. Boom, bang, pal. I like that. Each touch, you say another letter. Each touch is a U-S-A as it goes down the corner. Oh, good idea. U-A. And it can go faster, obviously, when they get close. A-A. Yeah, there it is. That's a good idea. At the end, whenever we're up, because they do clap or cheer for, hey, every pass whenever they're playing keep away at the end of games to basically just kind of ice a game.

2:05:21Pat McAfee:That is something we should do. What do they do in some of those basketball schools, places whenever somebody fouls out, they count right, left, right, left, right, left, right, until they sit down. We don't do the I believe that we will win anymore, do we? I think that was the old thing. I was going to say I'm glad we shit can that because that was what we fucking sucked at soccer. So I'm glad we shit-canned that one. That was Berhalter ball. That guy sucked. He did. His boy, though. His boy's a player. We're going to see him on Thursday. See a basket move. Hey, get ready for a Berhalter goal, probably from a set piece on Thursday, if I had to guess, against Terkaya.

2:06:02Yeah.

2:06:03Pat McAfee:Ladies and gentlemen, the PGA is changing everything. Yeah. You can win the regular season. You will be deemed a champion, but you will not be the outright champion because the outright champion will be decided after the seeding of the regular season in a match play tournament style afterwards. You have matchups. Now, how would they go about doing it? Will it just be a one weekend spectacle or maybe it'd be multiple weekends where the first round takes place on Thursday, second round maybe takes place on Friday, then Saturday you get a little bit, then the next week is semifinals into finals. Maybe it's two days per round, whatever the case.

2:06:38Pat McAfee:We know match play is coming to the championship of PGA and I respect that. They're also doing something with the bottom half of the tour. Yeah. There's a little bit more of a boost or a push for relegation or promotion in this entire thing. Some people automatically mention the Corn Fairy Tour. I think Corn Fairy Tour probably doesn't get a lot of push and a lot of stuff like that. I think this will be a little bit different. I think Rollap's coming in with a bunch of new ideas for golf. And for me, match play, playoffs with the top 16, top 32, whatever the hell it is, I can't wait for that. That's a great idea.

2:07:10Yeah, I think that's awesome because I don't know, and maybe Foxy can correct me, but it felt like everyone respects the regular season title, the regular season champion. I don't think anybody loved when Scotty was starting 12-under and guys were starting 2-under to crown your champion at the end of the season. I guess in that format, it made sense. But having a regular season champion and then doing a tournament with the top players, I think makes a lot of sense. And then I saw with the two different tours or however it is, the champion league and then the other one.

2:07:39Pat McAfee:championship series and tour challengers tour challenger series it's automatically i believe 20 guys will have a chance to move up from the challenger up to the champion and up to 40 guys could be demoted down to the challenger series so yeah i mean it's incentivized guys to play well not that they aren't already but um yeah roll up's doing it over there and we've had a couple precedent of guys coming back from live and what they got to do that's what we need to do throw all the lead to the end of the challenge straight to the challenger series potentially why they even do this is like all right we're about to get a bunch of big names i want to get back cool they They can't be in the championship, but we can definitely put them in not the Corn Fairy.

2:08:11Pat McAfee:What else can we do? Oh, the Tour Challenger Series. And now we're going to see the big names definitely on the leaderboard no matter how they're scoring. Even if a big name has a bad day, it's going to still be a big name in the big one. Yeah, that's what matters. And you've got to earn your way into those. I like that because that gives us all an opportunity. You know, there used to be a show called Big Break. That's right. It's so good. You get in there, you get to Q School, and then you become a Tour member. Now you've got to get on Big Break. You got to break the glass. Yep. You got to get to Q school.

2:08:40Pat McAfee:You got to get a Tour Challenger series. Then you got to win a couple times Tour Challenger. It's tough to become a pro. Very tough. Yeah, they're great. Is it going to be easy? I don't think it's going to be easy for me to get in there, H. I think it's going to take a while. Sounds like the path is much easier now, though. Like, now you can truly see your path. You can do what Blocky did. Yeah, because I guess I can't. Goat. I need to hit a hole in one, of course. Well, no, wait until you're 50 and just go to the senior. I like what he's doing. I think Blocky's going to win a couple of those, too.

2:09:04Pat McAfee:look out now granted that's a lot of good golf happening in that season still playing on the senior tour yeah well and i'm also potentially going to win 30 million dollars from correct uh placing a senior tour at some point from aj hawk i hope you're starting to put money into a fund for that one pal one way better stu sync is your leader of the senior tour yeah he's unbelievable naturally ernie else so technically i could be a single a soccer franchise in england yes and then earn Wrexham my way up into the Premier League in golf, in theory. That's what this is. Feels like it. Where would you start, though?

2:09:39You've got to start somewhere. The big break. Are you not listening?

2:09:43Pat McAfee:I watched the golf fix, and I'll go to the big break. That show was awesome. I don't know why I got rid of that show. You can play in a couple Monday qualifiers if you wanted. Yeah, and all I need to do, Foxy, what was it the guy told me? I need to put my forehead on brick wall. Yeah, exactly. Just like this right here. then whenever I go back I need to have all the weight on my back foot so that I can go ahead and do one of these okay I need to be able to do one of these and whenever I follow through I need to go ahead and take all that weight to the front keep the head on a brick wall obviously I didn't forgot about that and then just nice easy swing through there and then we're golfing out here boom you see that AJ yeah it's that easy don't forget about Coca-Cola now Nelly Cora that's the other part of it great golfer of all the time says do think about do all got to get to a point, I'm thinking.

2:10:29Exactly.

2:10:30Pat McAfee:And that's when you're getting promoting as opposed to relevant. When you're not thinking about it. Yeah. Did you see who introduced Rollout today? Who was it? The big dog, Tiger. He's back, baby. I did see that first public appearance everybody talked about. Congrats to him. Obviously going through his own journey through life as we have seen him become, you know, the biggest star on earth and greatest golfer of all time. And then we've obviously seen and learned about a lot of stuff he battles with as a human. We hope he's okay. Happy he wasn't. Hey, how did driver drive him to that? Hell yeah.

2:10:59Pat McAfee:Hopefully. Hey, fuck, it needs to happen, dude. Yeah. Look how cool today was. Let's keep doing that. Let's keep, hey, Tiger's here. He looked good. He did look good. Look confident and also loves the future of where golf is headed. So do we. Shout to Rollapcoe over there and getting it done. Drew Brees, still being a leader down there in New Orleans. Tyler Shuck, he might have been 45 whenever he was drafted because he was a little bit older down there to the Saints, but I think they liked him immediately. And Kelly Moe is getting an opportunity to run a team. He loves Tyler Shuck as well. Little rookie, though, getting a chance to learn from Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints legend.

2:11:32Pat McAfee:He's helping him set up the offseason workouts with the wide receivers and skill out there in San Diego. You know, Drew is kind of helping us set up our QB slash wide receiver throwing retreat. We're getting all the guys come down there and just work and bond together. For me, it's just kind of continuing to study the playbook and then just put my feet and my eyes in the right position. That's my whole focus. And then Brees might be there for a bit, But the main point of the gathering will be the current Saints to hit the ground running as they try to build on a promising close to Shucks rookie year.

2:12:01Pat McAfee:Okay, that's pro football talk. Florio repeating something that was reported somewhere else, which we appreciate Florio finding these stories. But this is something about I appreciate. Like, I guess not everybody knows how to be like a fucking NFL quarterback. Not everybody knows how to be a leader. Not everybody understands like, hey, in the offseason, this is how this works. You rent a building. You rent a facility. You do this. You get them all to come in. You set up dinners. It's kind of everybody's forced to bond, but you also get some work in, and also you get a chance to learn about each other.

2:12:27Pat McAfee:This is how this goes. I like when OGs are doing that to young quarterbacks, especially at that position, AJ Hawk. Yeah, and I think we can't assume that you're a quarterback, you know exactly how to run all this. Think of all the things that are on your plate if you are the quarterback of an NFL franchise. I mean, there's so many things to think about, too. So, yeah, good for Drew Brees reaching out and helping him. And also, in that picture, what stands out, Tyler Shuck, he's one big son of a bitch, isn't he? Just a monster. I didn't know he was a monster like that either. I mean, that was a Brady Kachuk, Matthew Kachuk like that right there in that.

2:12:59Pat McAfee:And obviously, we saw Shuck. He could spin it. Oh, yeah. In Kelly Moe's offense, we felt the effects of him leaving Philadelphia. We think they have a chance down there, even though it seems like they've been trying to hit the reset button for a few years and are almost out of that. Shuck could be the guy to lead them down there, like that Drew Brees is helping him become a guy off the field. Speaking of becoming a guy off the field, due to Raiders YouTube, we're getting a chance to see more of Mendoza and Kirk Cousins and even Tom Brady than we ever thought. Pro Football Talk Mike Florio talked about the things that we saw on Raiders YouTube.

2:13:31Pat McAfee:Fernando Mendoza talking to Tom Brady. Tom Brady just telling him, hey, here's the game, kid. This is what your teammates need to see out of you. This is what we as a Raider expect out of you. And from knowing Fernando Mendoza, he will take all of this to his heart and he will do it 1 ,050%. I mean, that's what he'll do. On the field, he's already talking the right way. He's come on our show and chit-chat about how defenses are puzzles. He's trying to figure out the puzzle. And in real time, he's trying to do it. He can move. He can run. He can throw. And now he's got Tom Brady teaching him how to be the perfect leader out there.

2:14:01Pat McAfee:I feel like Mendoza is going to do some good things with the Raiders, AJ Hawk. Yeah, so the question is, when does he get inserted into the lineup as the starting quarterback? I know everyone's kind of torn on what they think. Some people think day one. Is that where you're at? I was Kirk Cousins needs to start. let uh nando kind of watch now i'm at the point of let the boy play yeah let the boy play go ahead and put them out there every film uh every clip we're seeing from the raiders uh social team and from their youtube squad the ball isn't much of a difference for fernando because i did wonder about the ball because the way he throws that thing the college ball was a perfect spiral every single time we watch his pro day there was a couple ducks which i was very it was very abnormal i was not used to seeing that and if you're normally a dart thrower and you start throwing ducks i think sometimes your accuracy can be off so i was worried about potentially an nfl ball with fernando's hand he's figured it out yeah yeah he's throwing fucking they're showing 8k zoom ins of how pretty his ball is it's like that's every single ball that we saw him during college during the workouts on the sideline on the field in between plays and then on the field during plays every ball is a dart.

2:15:11Pat McAfee:He's big. He's strong. I think you play him. I honestly think you play him, but obviously Kirk Cousins is the perfect guy to potentially watch and then fall in behind. They made moves to support him, too. If Tyler Linderbaum wasn't there and you'd have an all-pro center who's calling out all the stuff that maybe he's a little behind, that'd be one thing. Clint Kubiak has already come out and said, hey, Fernando is as advertised and more. This guy is an absolute wizard. He knows what he's doing. They have a number one target. with Brock Bowers, and then you have Ashton Jinty too. So as far as support for a rookie quarterback, they have that.

2:15:47Now, I don't know if maybe they're nervous about his body or something or anything like that. That wouldn't really track from this play on its own. You would think that he has the body and capability to do it, and you're not worried about him having to put on weight. I think they said he was 230. That is massive for a quarterback. So it does seem like Mendoza should roll out there day one. But Brady is a guy who started behind. He always talks about how being behind Bledsoe helped him a ton and that that process is very proven in the NFL, especially with quarterbacks who are top picks being able to learn.

2:16:26So it'll be interesting to see. Who do they start with? Who are their first four games? Do they play the Texans week one? They got the Finns week one.

2:16:33Pat McAfee:There you go. Okay, so maybe we drop Nando out there. Maybe he rolled out. No, Halfley is a great defensive coach. That would not be somebody that you want to see him with. Maybe. You're right about Tom Brady understanding the whole blood zone, getting a chance to watch and have to prove himself and everything like that. I think it's tough. Kirk Cousins would be the right guy. Just so Fernando can see how he runs. How he runs as a starting quarterback of the team. What's the team meeting look like? What's the night before look like? What's the ball selection? it happens on fridays i think in the training like all that stuff getting to watch fernando get to watch a guy do that throughout the regular season and for a couple games i think is a huge piece of information and on that note a huge piece of information is also the first time you get the chance to see a disguise coverage in the nfl a huge piece of information is the first time you don't account for a guy coming this way and get absolutely it's like does the baptism also help them because we've seen quarterbacks get dropped in there early and it's like they kind of try to find their way is so many different right answers and Kubiak has come out and said too like hey in a perfect world the rookie quarterback has a little time to learn but sometimes they don't need that sometimes all they need is reps so like is that the situation for them well there's schedule like it you know they they start with the fins and they have the chargers and the saints but then in October they have Chiefs, Pats, Bills, Rams.

2:17:57So it's not like you're waiting for, hey, we'll get him in here and kind of like do you want to throw him into the fire like that? Do you want Cousins to start the first four weeks so he can learn a little bit? And then it's like, okay, hey, we're going to play four of the six best teams in the NFL. Fucking go show us what you got, kid. Go win a couple games. Yeah, I'm a believer in Fernando.

2:18:21Pat McAfee:I'm also a believer in Will Hart. Big time. Hard not to be. Okay. Also a believer in Shuck. Love Shuck. We love Shuck. But I also like these OGs giving game. Will Howard's got Aaron Rodgers right now, right? Did last year as well. I think they got along very well. Drew Brees was Shuck. That's crazy. Tom Brady of Fernando. That's crazy. I'm happy this is happening. Happy this is happening. And I think Roethlisberger, Aller, I think there was a meeting of the minds. He's a big Will Howard guy. Has he met with Aller? I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea. I know he loves Will. All I know is I haven't been asked a thing by any of these young quarterbacks, and I still got the highest passer rating in Thanksgiving football history.

2:19:00Yeah. Perfect. They'll reach out. They'll be reaching out.

2:19:03Pat McAfee:He's on QB. He's one-learn ball. I see Mizorowski down there on SportsCenter. Is he still throwing gas? Yeah, he's Dominion. Yep. Yeah, he's very fucking good. Brewers are very good. His VLO hasn't gone down like Skeet? No, it's only gone up, actually. No, no, no. He throws so fucking hard. But he didn't play in the World Baseball Classic. There's a lot of people whose VLO go down as they get older in their career because they're becoming more of like a placement pitcher. Yeah, if that's the case with Scheno, we're in trouble. How old is he? He's like 25. Uh-oh. He's just getting better. He's sharpening his knife.

2:19:32He might be younger than that. He's like 23.

2:19:35Pat McAfee:No, he's sharpening his knife right now. No, no, no. Scheno ain't fucking Jamie Moyer. Just turned 24. He's not Greg Maddox. Scheno needs to be throwing 100-plus and Peyton because we've seen it. We know he can do it. I don't need to see Scheno throwing 96-mile-an-hour fastballs. I don't need to be seeing it. Is that what's happening? Kid last night was throwing faster than that in Omaha. Well, he was 17 years old. He's got a nice spry arm. He hasn't added to his arsenal as much as Sposkeens has. He's got the sweeper, the sinker, the stinker. Sounds like you don't need an arsenal, though. Mizorowski just throws fastball every time.

2:20:05Well, no, he actually throws a slider that's like 97, 98 miles an hour, too. It's pretty much fucking unhittable.

2:20:11Pat McAfee:That's his ponche? Well, you could say that. You really don't need a ponche pitch when you throw 110 miles an hour because it looks like a fucking grain of rice coming in. So, you know, it's one of those things where – So that's what the problem is with how fast – you just can't see it. Yeah, or you just – you got to guess. It's like, boy, I hope this is right down the middle. So, in theory, very tiny amount of humans going to be able to hit that ball just regardless. Yeah, and it's one of those things where – I mean, it really hasn't happened this year, but the idea, like, sometimes with those guys is, like, when they do get hit, they get hit hard because they are throwing so hard.

2:20:45He throws his fastball 65 % of the time Which is probably smart

2:20:49Pat McAfee:Yeah so that's a guaranteed strike Fucker ain't gonna be able to get it Hmm Over three and a half just hit What's the score? Four nothing Christiano had two Christiano had two and I don't know if this is The own goal thing doesn't make any sense Doesn't make any sense because the guy kicks it And then there's just like a thing in front of the net Yeah you guys might have to change your shit a little bit for fantasy Oh never mind I was completely off their guy. I had higher hopes for Uzbekistan. Yeah, me too. All right. They're up and coming. They're like U.S. in 2022. I don't like hearing that a team is bad, though, in the World Cup.

2:21:26Pat McAfee:I thought it was hard to get in the World Cup. Fucking Italy's not even in the World Cup. They lost to Turkey. Bosnia. Turkaya? Or Bosnia. Who's Turkey? Bosnia. That's not how it's pronounced anymore. Turkaya. Yep, Turkaya. Turkaya. Turkaya. Cabo Vardo. Cabo Vardo. Cabo Vardo. D.R. call. Who's the worst team in the tournament? I'd put Uzbekki up there. Iraq's pretty trash. Goals don't count. Iraq sucks. He loves Messi, dude. This whole thing is because he loves Messi, but that might be the right answer too, actually. I have a soft spot for Iraq. Really? Yeah, because it looks like they got a white guy named Dave Jones playing goalie.

2:22:06He might be in Iraq. Yeah, Uzbekistan is the lowest ranked team on the sheet, followed by Saudis and Curacao.

2:22:14Pat McAfee:So yes, it was definitely a Messi fan pointing out the stat, but certainly, hey, a guy scored against the worst team literally in the World Cup, but on that note, congrats on them making the World Cup. That's a beautiful thing. The handwritten note, is that real? Do we know if that was real or not? SportsCenter tweeted it. Iran players wrote a handwritten note to the people, said thank you for the hospitality in New York, or in LA. Obviously, we're in the middle of the time that we're in in the world. Obviously, global stuff happening. Sports bringing people together. And immediately upon it being released, my first thought was they were thinking, hey, we're going to handwrite this so there's no.

2:22:51Pat McAfee:Maybe we don't fucking. Don't tell the leadership. That's why we're not texting this thing or writing this down. But I appreciate that soccer in this World Cup in America is introducing a lot of people, I think, to America as opposed to just the headlines of America. You know, I think all countries we should view like that. I forget who said it, but basically the basis of the quote is like, too often we judge groups by their worst and expect people to look at us by our best intentions or something like that. Sun Tzu. Rest in peace. I don't think that was Sun Tzu. I don't think it was Sun Tzu. I mean, Sun Tzu's dead.

2:23:30Pat McAfee:That's crazy. Rest in peace. He would have loved the World Cup. He would have fucking loved it. Who are you rooting for? China. The winner. Tunisia, maybe? I think he's rooting for ball, I think. Rest in peace to Sun Tzu, man. Really did it. It was not Sun Tzu. It was George W. Who actually had to go out there. It was something along those lines. Can't be fooled again. Yeah, he said, you fool me once, shame on me. Watch me hit this drive. But I think the quote was something like, too often we judge others by their worst headlines and then we judge ourselves or expect others to judge us by our best intentions.

2:24:05Pat McAfee:And it's like, I think that was like a very profound quote, actually. I think what's happening with the World Cup and people getting a chance to see what our country is, see what our people are, as opposed to just our absolute worst or our absolute loudest or our absolute craziest or our absolute most ridiculous. It's like people getting a chance to experience each other's cultures, I think, is a beautiful thing. Sports is doing that. Now, on that note, we need America to fucking win. Well, that's where it's going to turn the tides, is when we win this thing, everyone's going to be fucking pissed again.

2:24:32They're going to hate our guts.

2:24:34Pat McAfee:And then all of a sudden, the B's and G's aren't as good. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's how they get their attacks, you know? that's why I was so fucking fat something like that and then what about the big cars that they're driving they say they're feeling like they're flying spaceships they're driving in the big cars over here in America with air conditioning obviously through the ash cheeks of everything what are they going to say on the other side don't need all that they're not going to love it but that's just the reality that we're living in and they'll get there soon enough but right now we're in the middle of the world coming together around the world cup and we appreciate the hell out of sports doing that and let's continue to enjoy it all we're back tomorrow AJ great work today it's really good good job hey jay did you get to the bottom of the alien thing did you find who the hell is that there's no getting to the bottom of that you know but i mean how many more tic-tac videos can can you show me please and then freak out that you don't we don't have anything that moves that in that direction that speed you believe something's going on you would just yeah of course but also like if if we do find aliens and they come down and we get to shake their hand it doesn't change the world.

2:25:38We can still have everything. It can still all be awesome. It doesn't mean everything you believe in is garbage.

2:25:44Pat McAfee:I agree. I agree. Now on that note, if we go shake their hands and it's a good encounter, that's much better. For sure. Also, release the good files, to AJ's point. We're done with the tic-tacs. Show us the bodies. We want to see the actual conversation. Walk them out on stage. What if there's one of them that actually just can only move like this? What if that's how it actually walks? What if one of the ones that we recognize is an actual alien? Like the person we've always said that is an alien actually pops up and says you got me. I actually was. What if there's... What if there's a big 10 footer?

2:26:23Pat McAfee:Just a fucking... He just bounces on his head. That's how he walks. He bounces on the top of his head. And we go like... Is it his head though? Hey man, you alright? What if it's not his head? my face is up here speak to my penis sir that's how i move i gotta go this way so we're kind of yin and yan like a rudder yeah kind of yin and yan it is his rudder joystick that's how you shake his hand we don't know yeah sign me up remember you did say that if they had a little you shake their little penis that comes from their hand we talked about this a couple years ago no i we did not talk about that i think my answer was i would immediately try to create my own one of those so they would have to shake one of those as well.

2:27:01Pat McAfee:So I might grab like a roller like this immediately and go like that, let's shake, let's do a little tummy sticks. But I would like us to have a good encounter with these things as opposed to a bad encounter. And what I saw from the response of your, I believe something's going on, but until I come face to face, I don't care, this can't be my identity. I felt like a lot of people agreed with that take. It is like a much different vibe than it was maybe 10 years ago where people were like, if you believe in aliens, you're a psycho or whatever. Now I think it's a much more natural understanding of a thought like something probably.

2:27:31Yeah. It's a big area out there. Probably. Or down there. The ocean. That would be weird, wouldn't it?

2:27:39Pat McAfee:A lot of theories about that, but... I know. That's what I'm saying. James Cameron tried to find it. So there's other people that want him down there. Ocean Gate. Yeah. Be a friend. Tell a friend. Something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. Bailey said we need a kick. Oh, yeah. That's right. This fucking guy, dude. Who, Bill? Bailey can see the fucking YouTube video. What day is this, Bailey, of this? Four, five, six? Bailey doesn't know. This will be five. Ladies and gentlemen, what I'll be attempting to do with this World Cup ball. Official. A ball that's been through plenty of kickabout here in the Thunderdome.

2:28:20Good bit of kickabout.

2:28:22Pat McAfee:Great kickabout yesterday. Mm-hmm.

2:28:27I have a throbbing headache today Probably

2:28:29Pat McAfee:A lot of Excedrin potentially needed After all the headers that are happening with this Official World Cup football If I'm able to put this football Into that hoop right over there $50 ,000 in money will be given away To somebody that reposts this video And says something nice to somebody And also puts the easiest way to pay them digitally They could potentially be chosen As a random winner one of$50 ,000. AJ, what do you think I need to think about this time as opposed to the last couple times that I've attempted this challenge? I think you just need to trust your instincts. You don't need to think about anything.

2:29:04Be like water.

2:29:05Pat McAfee:Agreed. I'm going to think about thinking about not thinking about it. Like your golf swing? Yep. Yep. Come on. Here we go.

2:29:14Take another one. That was your worst one yet. That was terrible advice. Yeah. You did like a drop kick there, didn't you? That's what he's done every time. Oh, okay. Yeah, that was bad advice.

2:29:25Pat McAfee:Unbelievable. Oh, he's held it. Unbelievable. This will be the first attempt of the day, obviously. I'll be trying to put this FIFA official. Football. Into that hoop right over there. AJ, any advice for me as I attempt this on day five of the$50 ,000 random winners challenge? You know, just trust your instincts. Clear your mind and trust your instincts. You know, you put the hours in. Yeah, it might be. Don't aim it, just kick it. You're kicking an Adidas ball with... Beat one with your right boot. Yep. Good ball. Oh! Good touch, lad. Good touch, lad. We'll try again and more. Cheeky fellow, aren't you?

2:30:11Pat McAfee:It was kind of a cheeky attempt. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Hell yeah, sports. Hell yeah, sports. Thank all of you. for being so kind and allowing us to do this for a living. If it wasn't for all of...

2:30:31Pat McAfee:We wouldn't be able to have the coolest jobs on earth, living the dumbest lives of all time. We'll continue to do it for as long as... We'll have us. And we're going to continue to watch soccer for as long as they continue to score a bunch of... Goals!

2:31:04See you tomorrow.

2:31:07Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell your friends something nice. My change of life. We're listening together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, two. Goodbye.