PMS 2.0 1600 - Ian Rapoport, Colts Head Coach Shane Steichen, Peter Schrager, Dana White, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

18:02Pat McAfee:Speaking of, let's talk about where you were yesterday. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Rap, you were with the 49ers yesterday. Obviously, the story of their offseason or training camp has been injuries so far. but one that I feel like we haven't heard a ton about is Nick Bosa and he's it's been like a week since he's been at practice what's going on there and what was your kind of takeaway from Niners camp yesterday yeah I mean first of all you're right like so much of the story is like who is not practicing like yesterday no McCaffrey dealing with some tightness so it's like not a big deal okay but I would say generally except for Ricky Pierce who we know is out for the season I didn't get the sense any of these injuries, including Nick Bosa, I didn't get the sense any of them are something where they don't think the player will be there week one.

18:46Bosa's dealing with some soreness. Obviously, he's coming off the torn ACL, but he's pretty far clear from that. I think it's more of my sense, just from the Nick Bosa situation, is more of him trusting a knee that feels a little different. you know and and just getting used to that it's not going to be like it was and this is you know it's a it's a second acl and it just from what i know i've never done this but from what i understand talking to players who've done it it just doesn't feel normal even if doctors are telling you you are fine he's he's just got to get comfortable with that and my understanding is that's the

19:24Pat McAfee:process he's going to yeah the mental hurdle is always difficult after getting injured because You don't want to re-injure it. Also, it doesn't feel the exact same. We assume Bosa will be able to do that. They've got a lot of guys, though, kind of on G-days or injured over there. Hopefully, they just get the season and kind of get started. We have some breaking news for you, Junior. Seniors reporting. Kyler has officially been named starting quarterback. Wow. Congratulations, Kyler. Interesting. That's a good count. Now, there's been some mixed reporting on how each quarterback had been doing in training camp.

19:55Pat McAfee:We hadn't seen a lot of videos. We'd only been able to see tweets from people that were spectators at Minnesota Vikings training camp. They were both getting one's reps. Every once in a while, we'd see Kyler did something good. Then J.J. did something good. Then Kyler did something ass. Then J.J. did something ass. I'll tell you what, if you were to score this, it would be a split decision on who's actually going to be the starter. So will they remain with the guy that they drafted very high or the guy that they brought in in a big celebrational free agent? Well, Kyler Murray is now the starting quarterback for the team in which he was a fan of as a child.

20:24Pat McAfee:You know, there's photos of him as a kid wearing a Minnesota Vikings jerseys. And we all fantasized about Kevin O 'Connell offense with the talent of Kyler Murray. Now it looks like we're going to get a chance to see that. How long's the leash? What all will Kyler be able to do? If things go wrong, will J.J. McCarthy be doing the J.J. McCarthy gif and meme right over his shoulder? I guess that's for you to answer now, Rap Sheet, as we get an announcement of who the starter is for the Vikings live in real time. yeah i mean first of all i would say the hope when the vikings signed kyler murray in free agency was that this would happen right that was the hope like he was he was their top choice in free agency they were his top choice we really thought that like when he went out there if he just played like he's capable and like he has been a more than adequate starter in the nfl and just last year you know it fell apart because of the the injury situation but the hope was that this would be the case that he would come out, reestablish himself, be in the system, which has basically had every quarterback be successful, and that he would end up being the starter.

21:24I mean, it sounded like, you know, competition wise, they pushed each other, but it just really felt like how it was a little bit ahead. And I think, you know, for the Vikings, who've had a revolving door at quarterback for the last several years, doing this now, getting it out there just helps them just he gets all the reps now. That's it. And now, you know, the other question is what happens to J.J. McCarthy? Does he stay? Does he want out? Is he comfortable being the backup and waiting his time? I mean, I think there's a lot of questions about where it's going. Because, you know, talk about viral.

21:58The most viral clip of him was talking about how, like, you know, him and Kylo were on two opposite sides of the classroom just kind of functioning parallel paths.

22:05Pat McAfee:No. That has nothing to do with it. That's nowhere near the most viral. The most – Post-pocular. Yeah. Nine. Nine. Nine is the most viral. But I understand what you're saying when it comes to this competition. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Now, he's straight late now? Can they coexist? I would be curious if they could coexist together. I mean, I just – and this is really for J.J. to decide how comfortable he is being the backup and waiting. What do you mean? I mean, you got a job as an NFL quarterback. You didn't win the starting job. Now you're the backup. What do you – like, he hasn't – in my opinion, he hasn't earned the right to get me out of here.

22:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, that would be very J.J. wow. Yeah, I wouldn't be – This is nine, though, bro. You don't know how nine's going to roll. Like, J.J. should. Everything we've heard from J.J. McCarthy, he's, you know, he's a good guy. He's a movie character. Good football guy. Is he a great quarterback? No, not yet. But I don't see that coming. But a lot of untapped potential still for Kyler Murray. So that would be the – oh, for Kyler, yes. As we wrap up with J.J., trade bait, would people trade for J.J. at this point, you think? Because he said untapped potential with Kyler and Kevin O 'Connell. We agree on that.

23:10Pat McAfee:But I think a lot of people would see J.J. potentially untapped talent. Harbaugh said it was the best workout he's ever seen, right? Yeah, best quarterback workout he's ever seen. Would this be – do you think how many people would want to trade? That's weird, though, I would think. If you have a legit quarterback who isn't worried about who's behind him, you can really come in and develop him. Kind of how Daniel Jones went and developed. Sam Darnold went and developed behind some other established guys. But I don't see like a coach latching himself in his future to J.J. McCarthy at this point.

23:39I don't know. Maybe Rapsley. No, it doesn't have to be. Because if you're going to – look, first of all, let me say this. I do not know if the Vikings would trade JJ. Because the only question now is if he's going to be the backup, the question now is if something happens to Kyler, is he your best option moving forward, right? Because the Vikings are a team that I think is going to be in it.

24:01Pat McAfee:Carson Wentz is out there. Carson Wentz can do it. Yeah, the Wentz experience is one that we got to experience internationally last year. He has played well enough to give you confidence that if he had to play, he'd be okay or maybe better. So that's what I'm saying. So if you're a team who like J.J. coming out, it actually might make some sense to say, maybe we'll just trade for him and develop him. I mean, Daniel Jones is a fantastic example of when he went to the Vikings a couple years ago. Trey Lance has happened with Dallas, right? Yeah. Because they liked him coming out, and they were like, we could potentially develop him.

24:34Yeah.

24:34Pat McAfee:What happened with him? But that is the other thing, too. like we always say Dan Jones and Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield and things like that. That could happen, but also it could just never work out. This just happens a lot. And it sucks. And you look at that QB class. It's a very, very good class with Caleb and Jaden and Drake May and Penix and stuff. And who knows with Penix still, but sometimes it just doesn't work out. Well, on that note about one of the members of that quarterback class, I don't know if you've heard, update out of the Colts-Pats joint practices. Drake May's throwing picks all over the place.

25:08Pat McAfee:Really? Yeah, Cam Bynum picked him off. Boom. And then Cam Bynum did the oopsie, whoopsie, whoopsie. Pro fan Logan's out here saying Cam Bynum just picked off Drake May towards the end of practice. Oh, there it is. It was a movie. That's all you needed to see, though, is towards the end of practice because Drake May by then was probably like, oh, all right, watch this. He's a good guy. Now, he's a great man. Let me just say that about Drake May. And so he probably said, Let me get you one here. I ain't playing on Thursday. I'll give you one here. Cam Bynum, also a great man. He's probably threw him one real nice and easy.

25:43Ended on a high note. He knows Steichen's coming on a little. I like that Drake's doing that for us. Drake May is one of the best men that I have ever seen, heard, and watched play football. Well, I know Cam Bynum is also one of the best men that we've got whenever it comes to energy.

25:59Pat McAfee:And Bruce, I'm happy he's getting his hands on the ball early, especially to an MVP candidate. Connor has a question for you on that note. Yeah, speaking of that team, Junior, unfortunately today was the first time Christian Gonzalez has not practiced or participated with all the contract stuff going on. You got reference on Hard Knocks last week with the Witherspoon deal and kind of basically not sending out fake information, but, you know, who knows? Schneider didn't seem too happy. What is the situation with those two? It seems like those are the next two corners to get paid, Witherspoon and Gonzo.

26:30Should I be worried that this is happening as a Patriots fan? Are these deals going to get done before the season? What is kind of the expectation here? All right. So, well, first of all, last thing is I got to run and do some TV on the other network in a second. But I'll answer this. So it was interesting. I do not know. I want to be quiet. I do not know why Christian Gonzalez was not at practice today. But it's interesting to me that yesterday they agreed in terms with Hunter Henry on a new contract extension. And then the next day, Christian Gonzalez is not practicing. Now, as far as the Witherspoon, you know, they're still in kind of a standoff trying to get that done.

27:06That's in a more advanced state than the Christian Gonzalez deal is. So nothing happens in a vacuum. You know, I think there's a good chance Witherspoon gets done, I think. I don't know about Gonzalez, whether it's going to be this year or next year, but the timing is certainly something that I took note of today and is interesting.

27:24Pat McAfee:Let's get you some vitamin C on this travels. Good luck on NFL Network. Quickly, the challenge flag changes. How many coaches are going to give that up? uh i would say rough estimate 46 percent okay wow we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen that's junior nfl insider for espn and nfl network here's what we're talking about there is a little tweak to some rules that get amended for the nfl now there is uh meetings where the league and the owners all gather in one place it's normally a spectacle we got chance got the airs yeah beautiful Incredible. Absolutely beautiful. They vote on things. They learn about things.

28:01Pat McAfee:There's stats shown. There's presentations. You know, it's everything you think of some corporate retreat, if the NFL would be. And they vote on rules and make changes. But then every once in a while, conversations happen there, and then it lingers a little bit, and then the NFL has the ability to tweak some rules going into the season. It's happened in the past with multiple other ones. This year, guess what? Somebody else other than a coach can now throw a challenge flag. Huge. Hey, coach used to have to have that thing. Remember, there was always a nice cut-up of some, you know, oh, no's with coaches trying to find which pocket they have it in.

28:34Pat McAfee:And I think Belichick, who's put it down in his sock, I believe there's a back pocket, there's a front pocket, there's people that forget it and they have to send their assistant into their locker room to get it. I mean, the challenge flag has obviously become a topic of conversation because it has, I think, made the game better. You know, I think it has certainly added a little bit of entertainment, a little pizzazz, especially whenever the coaches throw that thing, Spike that thing. Drop that thing. Pout that thing. All these types of throws are a big deal. Now, somebody else is allowed to do it as well.

29:03Pat McAfee:So you start to wonder to yourself, who will be a same challenge flagger? And who will probably be a new challenge flagger? So we took the top 10 success percentages in the NFL from last season and put them on. It's probably going to be the same flagger situation. Now, the bottom 10 are on the far side there. Probably a new flagger situation over there. So as you look at the list, you think to yourself, you know what? They will probably have some expert in the field who will have eyes on the reviewer and eyes on the replay, and they will take the decision-making out of the coach's mind. But on the left side there with the same flaggers, it's going to be tough to get that flag out of the coach's hand.

29:45Pat McAfee:They're throwing a hot bat out here. Shane Steichen, 6 of 8. That's pretty good. 6 of 8. That's 75%. Now, will Shane say, the person that tells me to do this should be the one that's actually doing it, so I don't even have to worry about that? Maybe. But I think Shane maybe says, I'll tell you what, I think that's a stinking bad call, man. He's not afraid to throw that thing. No, eight times he'll let that thing fly. Chiefs from, okay, now this is from the NFL record in stats book. Okay. Okay, so you see some of these teams, like Chiefs, they only had to use one challenge flag, and they're like, well, of course, that's because the refs are on their side.

30:16Pat McAfee:Yeah. True. Good point. But then it's like, yeah, but Andy Reid feels like he would. Cardinals, you know, a couple times. Some other people one time, it's like, that doesn't feel right. The expedited reviews that have come into the league over the last year, I think those technically do count as a review success for a team. These, from the NFL record and stats book, are coaches throwing flag having to challenge it even after the expedited review, if that makes sense. The expedited review, I think what we're seeing with these stats, because this is nowhere near the amount of challenges that we assumed all these teams would have to be doing, I think the expedited review process has been a success.

30:50Pat McAfee:I think that has been something that has mitigated a lot of this. I think he just kept the game moving. I think that person up in the top relaying right down to the ref, hey, be casual, move this ball. This is not a problem. You made a mistake. We fix it in real time. I like that the refs have dropped their egos enough to say, okay, we'll let somebody make a correction, even though our eyes didn't see the same thing. I think the NFL is working on making it better. How do you feel, D-Butt, about the multiple flaggers and where we are now when it comes to challenges and reviews and all of that type of stuff?

31:21I think it would be cool. You talk about getting some new cut-ups. We always talk about the head coaches looking for their flags. Then we saw, I would say a few years ago, the get-back coaches on each team having the guy assigned, usually a strength coach, somebody in that department to keep back people on the sideline and the head coach. So now I'm sure we'll get some cut-ups of whoever this alternate flag thrower is. But, yeah, I'm with you. I'm surprised that, you know, what is it, one, two, three, four teams, five teams that only used it once. That's shocking in 17 games. That's crazy to see.

31:52That's very, very surprising.

31:53Pat McAfee:Hey, congrats to the refs. Yeah. Good work. Huh? Hey. And they got a new deal. Yes, they did. Thank God for that. Thank God. We are very happy we got that deal done. That was a huge deal getting done because the replacement refs. We saw the arena. That'd be times fifth. Arena title game. I don't know. That was a good call. I saw an alternate angle. Did you? Oh, did you find one finally? Some people that were at the Nashville Cats game right down the line, they took the photo. He was nowhere. Short? Yeah. As soon as he jumped up. Photo or video? It was photo. They could have moved it, obviously, because I think people were doing that with Lionel Messi's pants.

32:26Pat McAfee:Wow. Yeah, people can mess with photos, obviously. Nashville Cats here. Oh, no! Oh, no. Albany goes for it. Big goal line stand. The Nashville Cats are arena. Super duper bowl champions. Goal line stand to win a title. That's a touchdown. Wow. No, it ain't. They moved the pile. It's over the defensive linemen, man. They're all in the end zone. Yeah, but they shot in the backfield so quickly. Yeah, they moved the pile. That's called penetration. QB's 5 '8". That's called leverage. Yeah, we know it's Pavia, right? Yeah, it's Pavia. That's not Diego Pavia. And he's not 5 '8". He is not in the Arena League.

33:00Pat McAfee:That is disgusting what we just did. I just said Pavia. It's a lot of Pavia. Actually, you're right. We met all of them this year during the state. Could have been one of the brothers for sure. I assume that one of the Pavia brothers could play quarterback in the Arena League. And I'll tell you what, coach. You can't get in from the half-yard line. You don't deserve to win a title. That's right. So, congrats to the Nashville Cats getting that thing done. And who would have thought? Arena League title comes down to ground and pound football. Yeah. Well, you see the score again? 59-53. Yeah, I don't know if that's ground and pound.

33:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, but when push comes to shove, you've got to be able to stop the run. They're playing both sides, so their defense is a little tired. You've got to be able to run the rock, and you've got to be able to stop the run if you want to win a title. It doesn't matter if it's on Sundays, Saturdays, or in barns. Exactly. You've got to be able to do that in football. Amen. That is really what it is. Packed barns. Speaking of football, I'm being told by the NFL Films people, okay, this doesn't always happen, especially with Hard Knocks, because they understand what has happened to Hard Knocks with the advancements of access that teams have been given now on social media and digital content and everything like that.

33:59Hard Knocks used to be the only real look inside an NFL building for fans.

34:04Pat McAfee:Used to be it. That's why it was so groundbreaking, trailblazing, phenomenal stuff. Things that we never thought we'd be able to see, we were able to see with hard knocks. Won a bunch of awards, and it kind of sizzled out. Then every team they picked sucked. Yeah. Then they became a curse. Yes. Then teams didn't want them. Then they tried an offseason one, and the Giants did everything wrong that you could possibly want. Oh, boy. Unless you were watching. Unless you were a fan of another team. Yes. Then you thought to yourself, there's no way that's happening in our building. And Joe Shane's sitting there like, Jesus.

34:36Pat McAfee:I mean, these are tough decisions. Everybody would be nice to be able to do this. So we thought Hard Knocks potentially dead and gone forever. I'm getting a lot of texts from people. First time in years, I'd say. Okay. Tonight's episode of Hard Knocks, they're saying it's one of the best ones they've ever done. Really? Yes. That is actual. That is just a weird text to receive from these people. Keith has sent it. Two other people in the building have sent me random text messages that said, we think you guys will talk about Hard Knocks on Wednesday. Tuesday's episode's very good. Ah, okay. So that is – What could happen?

35:07The teaser they put out was pretty solid.

35:09Pat McAfee:So they sent me a couple clips, but I didn't know if those clips had already been out, so I don't know. They told me we could show them yesterday, but we missed them yesterday because they sent me the clips after our show had ended basically. So I don't know if the clips have already made it out. There's a – has this made it out yet? I haven't seen that one. Offensive lineman, defensive lineman. I have not seen that one. Two sledgehammers. No, I have not seen that. In front of the entire team. Until somebody quits? Yeah, until somebody's arms give out. That's awesome. That's awesome. It was. Oh, it does Red Rover, Red Rover.

35:38Pat McAfee:No, it becomes electrified. Yeah, that's sweet. Like rookies or like Leonard? Okay. Yeah, I think it was two rookies. Just four sledgehammers up there. Offensive linemen holding them. Defense linemen holding them. And these two lads put on a performance. I mean, it is. And obviously showcases their environment. What a spot. I think it showcases football culture pretty good, too, because immediately at the beginning, you can tell the boys a little boring. And then all of a sudden they start cracking. And then obviously offense is taking on defense. So one side, I'll say, starts looking bad earlier.

36:08So much shit talk.

36:09Pat McAfee:But that does not mean it's over. Sometimes when your arms start shaking, it doesn't mean you're losing. It just means like, hey, everything's kind of straining. It does not mean you're going to lose automatically. Some people watching think as soon as the shaking starts happening, oh, he's dead. It's like, no. Some people kind of that's just what their muscles naturally start to do. So obviously that starts happening. So immediately it's like, oh. And then all of a sudden the other side has a little drop. and then you hear him be like, he's done! Then he started motivating this guy. I mean, it became...

36:34Pat McAfee:Just quit. It felt like that was one of the times where I was like, man, I wish I was in that room. So Hard Knocks might have, from my understanding, from what they are texting me personally, they think tonight's episode is a good one. From the clip, I saw it looked awesome. And I think McDonald's run a hell of an outfit out there. He is, for sure. I think he's run a really good outfit out there. I think he is somebody that I'm excited to learn about through these Hard Knocks, but also I think the way he goes about doing his shit. He's a defensive guru, young gun. We know McVay, who's an offensive guru.

37:05Pat McAfee:It's like McDonald's defensive, hard-nosed guy, but similar type mindset. And it's like they've had one, or they've already won, so the proof's in the pudding. It's like you've got to buy what this guy's selling because of what he's been able to do. And you can tell the team's filled with dogs out there. This is good for the Seahawks, I think Hard Knocks is. I don't think the Hard Knocks curse is necessarily going to be the case here. And the Hard Knocks people are saying tonight's a good one. Yeah, I mean, picking a team like the Seahawks is a good move if you kind of want to eliminate the curse from the get-go.

37:32Defending Super Bowl champions, we assume they're going to be good. The clip I saw was between Mike McDonald and Mitch Johnson, the head coach of the Spurs, and they were going back and forth, and McDonald was basically just telling him how he builds the team, how he goes about building the culture every year. And it was really sweet because it was kind of like a glimpse into how he goes about doing things, and it didn't seem like just like the normal cookie-cutter bullshit responses you get normally. And you could see Mitch Johnson, like anytime he says something, he's like, oh, wow, I really like that.

38:03I'm going to use that. And like going back and then they start talking about Wemby. Like it was fascinating.

38:08Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think there's this type of shit. I think there's team shit. I think there's probably good highlight stuff. Maybe Hard Knocks got a little fastball of that. That's great news because I've always been a fan of Hard Knocks. Obviously, being in the locker room, you see it, you lived it. but seeing other buildings. I always was intrigued on seeing how other buildings operated. You see the good, the bad, and the ugly from Hard Knocks. We all remember or can remember people getting cut. We saw head coach Kevin O 'Connell get cut on Hard Knocks. You see how people respond to it all. You see guys that kind of come from obscurity and then become stars in the NFL as well.

38:44Seeing this team, I think we always talk about how Seattle doesn't get enough coverage. They're so far in the Pacific Northwest that they don't get that spotlight on them. So a lot of names that you may not know, may know, but personalities you don't. Witherspoon, Nicky Marari, Leonard Williams. Like, these are studs. These are superstars. And now you'll see more of their personality. So I'm excited to tap in tonight.

39:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, I am too. That's very – those are cool texts to read. Yeah, that's rare. They obviously put a lot of, you know, effort into this. Oh, yeah. The NFL Films people are not sleeping. Okay, so they are – they wear – they're pretty thin. Yeah, turning these episodes around quick too. But not just this episode. They got some other documentary. They just had to do all the Hall of Fame stuff. I mean, the NFL Films people are very committed to their shit. So for them all to be pretty jacked up, different departments here now, saying, hey, we like this one. I'm excited for it. They operate like a lot of people say a 33rd franchise.

39:36And I'm in there every week during the football season. So when they were doing it, I don't know if they're still doing it, the end season, they had an area. They just build up different offices and cubicles for guys, putting in night shifts, putting in night shifts, putting that shit together. So they work their asses off. I'm excited to see.

39:53Pat McAfee:Yeah, I can't wait to watch tonight. I also can't wait to catch up with the man who's joining us now, live from Foxborough. Yeah. Fresh off of his, Cam Bynum, picking off Drake May and these joint practices, from my understanding. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, Shane Steichen. Hey. What's up, fellas? Shane-o. We're out here. Yeah. We're out here. That's beautiful. Yeah, I heard. Hey, I heard there's a lot of fans, too. I've been watching a lot of highlights from the Patriots social media. Don't love that. But it did sound like there's a lot of fans there. How has the excitement been?

40:26Pat McAfee:How did the day go? It was great. It was a lot of back and forth. The energy was phenomenal out here. You've got to hold that. Shane, Shane, you've got to hold that phone up. We're staring up your nose. You've got to hold that phone up. I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. There we go. Yeah, thank you. Can't be staring up your nose all the time. Bad for the Colts. Bad for the Colts. Good for sure. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. What was the energy like? What was it like in joint practice there first time? It was phenomenal. Like I said, a lot of back and forth. Started off with some one-on-ones.

40:53Then went into some team periods. Got some good work in the red zone. You know, finished with a two-minute drill, what you just hit. So a lot of good back and forth.

41:00Pat McAfee:Okay, we saw a lot of highlights coming from the Patriots social media. Obviously, Colts social media waiting to put a little pizzazz. Was there some things that either worried you today or you learned today? Well, I got to go back and watch. I was on the offensive field, and then Braves was on their offensive field. So I got to go back and watch some of the stuff. But I thought there was a lot of good. You know, our offense at the two-minute drive, thought Daniel did a hell of a job. You know, going down there, it was a one-score game. We had one timeout, went down, hit some big plays to Tyler, and then hit downs for a touchdown there at the end.

41:29It was good.

41:29Pat McAfee:Okay, we like that. Alec Pierce obviously not playing. We got an update from him. He did not get a second shot after his surgery. He's rehabbing, still hoping to be back by week one. We hope you have your entire ensemble of weapons. What do you learn from these camps? Are you looking at, like, the depth of their roster too? Will you look at the bottom half of their roster as they're working out? Like, how much of that happens in these joint practices? Yeah, I think so. I think when you go back and evaluate the tape, I think you look at everything. You look at their side of the ball, our side of the ball.

41:57But really, we just want to get good working and get better. That's what these joint practices are for, going against another opponent. It breaks up camp. It's great for our players.

42:04Pat McAfee:Okay, Shane, can you tell me about how you avoid fights? It feels like that's inevitable. Yep. Yeah, I think the biggest thing is the messages in the team meeting before you go out to practice. Hey, we're not fighting. We're not starting any shit. it's going to be a good practice. We've got to get good working. And if you do fight, you're going to get kicked out of practice, plain and simple. Okay. Is that kind of a league-wide messaging, or has everybody kind of got that note? Because it does feel like these joint practices just turn into a melee every single time. Yeah, I think most teams have that message, but sometimes it gets a little testy, and there is some melees, and, you know, it gets competitive.

42:35It's crazy, you know, like hell out there. But we kept it pretty clean today. There's no fights.

42:40Pat McAfee:You talked about that two-minute with Tyler Warren. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach, there was tweets out there that Tyler Warren did feast today. How huge is it to see him go from his rookie year to his second year? And he obviously knows the playbook a lot better now. His time with Daniel Jones is a lot more now. How does it feel, Tyler Warren, out there today, the tweets about him feasting and how has he looked? Yeah, he looks phenomenal. He's having a hell of a camp right now, you know, just trying to get the matchups with him any way we can, find different ways to use them and grow from there.

43:09Like I said, he's just a tremendous player that we try to, you know, get him the ball any way we can.

43:14Pat McAfee:Do you? Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Okay, all right. I just want to make sure. Our last conversation, I was just wondering if we were enough feeding the Sasquatch-looking guy that we have. I think he led our team in targets, Pat, last year. Okay. All right, I want to make sure that's the case. Hey, new rule happened today. I don't know if you heard. Maybe Conte will tell you on the other side. Go ahead, Con. Yeah, Coach, you're kind of changing the instant replay challenge flag situation where you can now designate one person to be that kind of person that throws the flag. You were one of the best in the league last year when it came to challenges.

43:51I think you were hitting at a 75 % rate. Yeah, there it is, six of eight on the year, and you challenged and used it more than most. How does that process go when you are challenging a play, and do you see yourself maybe giving that duty to someone else throughout the season? Yeah, I think that's a great question. Obviously, I saw this come up yesterday and kind of put some thought into it a little bit. And, you know, obviously the guy that's up in the box, you know, looking for the challenges, whether it's a catch, no catch, whatever it may be, you know, getting it from him. You know, obviously the head coach is probably the one that's got to say, yeah, I'm throwing it.

44:26So I think the communication piece has got to be on point. So I think it is quicker for the head coach to throw the flag down. Because if not, you know, you've got a guy up in the box and he's talking, hey, you want to throw it? And you've got to communicate to the guy on the sidelines to throw it, and every second counts in this league. So maybe they get the flag out late, and that's two seconds because you had to okay it, and now you didn't get the challenge off in time.

44:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, that sounds like a guy who's saying, I'll throw the flag. I'll throw the flag. That's what it sounds like. And then here's the other flip side of it. I was thinking of this. Like, it's got to be very clear and obvious. Like, if you do have someone else throw it, I was just thinking, like, that trust has got to be so heavy involved with the guy upstairs and the guy downstairs to where the coach isn't really thinking about it and the guy upstairs says, hey, challenge it, and he doesn't hesitate and he throws it. So you could go that way too as well. So I don't know what teams are going to do.

45:16So it will be interesting to see it all play out.

45:18Pat McAfee:Yeah, I like you. You get a little pissed off though. I like you. You've got a lot of spunk, I'd say, on the sideline. Was that what you call it, spunk on the sideline? Juice, a little juice. But I would say this too. When I do throw a flag, I like to throw it flat down on the ground so it's not hanging in the air too high. You got to get that thing down quick. Yeah, because when it hits the ground, that's when the challenge actually takes place. When it's in the process of falling, you might not get it off if they go to replay, which I respect. Also, it feels like the expedited reviews have helped this out a lot because not as many challenges around the league as we would have expected.

45:49Pat McAfee:Now, let's talk about you having an MVP potentially back. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, I think going into this year, a lot of people were concerned with just how Daniel Jones would look coming off a massive injury like an Achilles like that. But early on, it looks like he's 100%. He looks completely healthy. Are you kind of just cutting him loose, or does part of you feel like you kind of got to keep the governor on him a little bit just to make sure, hey, we want this guy to be completely healthy come week one? Yeah, I think, you know, I've said this many times, but he attacked his rehab the right way, and he feels really good right now.

46:23And so the playbook's open right now, and obviously we're in controlled environments in practice, but he is gaining that strength and all that stuff comes along with the energy, and he's looked really, really good so far. I really haven't had concerns up to this point, and it's only getting stronger.

46:38Pat McAfee:Okay, you announced earlier today that he will not be playing in any of the preseason games. Great. Happy to be a season ticket holder. Okay. What does it count? All right, yeah, let's get him to the regular season. Okay, let's get him to the regular season. That's right. Yeah, Mike Rice, who covers the Patriots for ESPN, said one view from the media tent, both Patriots and Colts will likely be pleased with overall practice, 24 first team reps, valuable in controlled competitive environment. But Patriots' top units didn't finish strong in two-minute drill, which ends things on a less inspiring note.

47:13Pat McAfee:On that note, D-Butt has a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, you talked about controlling environments. Obviously, with joint practice, it's a little less control. I know as a player, I like the team drills because I'm seeing different shifts, different motions. As a coach, what's your favorite part about these, I guess, period, these joint practices, the red zone, one-on-ones, inside run, 7-on-7, two-minute, what is it for you? I think it's the chess master going back and forth. It's a controlled environment. They check, we check. There's a lot of that stuff, especially with the starters in there.

47:44And you get to go through that, obviously, in the film session as well and kind of play that game. And I think quarterbacks, obviously, Daniel enjoys that part of it with the rest of our guys. But that's what I love about this. You go against your defense in training camp so many days in a row, and now you've got a chance to go against somebody else and see different looks. So I love that part of it more than anything.

48:03Pat McAfee:What do we think offense looks like in the NFL this year? Because McDaniel told us that he's got a new wrinkle up his sleeve from San Diego. What do you think it's going to look like this year? We'll see. I mean, I can't tell you that. You never know how it's all going to play out. Every year in the NFL, right, there's going to be wrinkles. There's going to be unique things, new trends that go along around the league. And you've got to adapt. I mean, everyone's got to adapt. You can't stay the same because it's always evolving. I love you, Coach. Way to win up there. Way to win up there from what it sounds like.

48:34Pat McAfee:The two-minute. No, it was an away game. Yeah, that's the game. Two minutes. That two-minute is the game. We scored, and we stopped. Now we're up 30-0. That wasn't the situation. Pats won the one-on-ones, and Colts won the team stuff. Andrew Callahan's reporting the Patriots defense allowed 11 straight completions in a row. Oh, wow. Seven-on-seven, that's football. Okay. Shane, way to dial it up, Paul. Let's keep it going. There's no fighting out there. Let's go win it all. all right fellas i appreciate that yeah yeah coach uh-oh hey he's the best man yeah i'll talk to him uh he is such a super positive okay always like i like to let's talk about the optimists let's talk about the optimism here what do we need to be about the negative side or whatever hey coach you think there's a chance a bob bob happens i don't can we focus on the positive here That is what he framed.

49:24Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Like such a coach mentality. We got a chance to hang out with him after that flag football championship for like an hour and ten minutes as he was taking a break from moving into his office, which was right next door. That was the most open I've ever talked to him. Yes. He's awesome. Oh, yeah. And if they don't win this year, it's going to be a whole new project here in Indianapolis. Yeah. He's going to go be an offensive coordinator somewhere, and they're going to win again. I mean, that's just what's going to happen. He's a weapon. His records, though. Like, he's been very unlucky.

49:52Pat McAfee:we need to win games. That is very obvious. Chris Ballard said I won't sign one. I won't sign an extension. He said we've got to win. As a season ticket holder, I appreciate it. Do you believe that? If the Ursae daughters offered him a three-year extension right now, do you think he would say that? I can't in good faith sign this because we haven't won. Excuse me. Can we please run the clip please? This is from this training camp when he was asked that question. This is Chris Ballard asking if he would go into his final year of his contract or not.

50:33Pat McAfee:No. No. I wouldn't do one. I'm in the last year of my deal. We need to win. Right out of the horse's mouth. That's right out of the Colts' mouth. I get it. I know what he said. I remember that. And I kind of reacted the same way. Do you believe that? is my question. Yes! It does. That's a great thing to say. I love it. We need to win, damn it. But if they're saying, you know what, coach, we can go 8-9 this year. Yeah, did you smell it? Because I could kind of smell the snake oil. No! For some reason, it did just feel a little gasoline-y in here. I disagree with that. I saw Chris Ballard this weekend celebrating Vinatieri.

51:12How'd it go? You guys talk?

51:14Pat McAfee:Yeah. Good chatter with him. And he was talking to Bill Polin. I actually got a selfie with him and Bill Polin in there. Two general managers, obviously, back-to-back. It was kind of – well, then Gregson, you know, he was not there, but the other people were certainly there chit-chatting about, you know, the past and the future and the present, certainly. And I think Chris Ballard is obviously a very – boom. There's the lads. Right there. This weekend. Boom. That's just a couple days ago. That's Bill Paulian, Hall of Famer. That's why he's wearing a gold jacket. Okay? This isn't like you just wear gold jackets around Kevin Hall of Famer.

51:46Pat McAfee:Unless you're a Hall of Famer. It was someone in there who had a gold jacket. Who was not a Hall of Famer? What? I love that move. It was very close to the color, too. No. Who was it? I asked EB, who? And he told me who he was, and I remember the name. It was before our time, the former coach. He said, what a move this week. I love that. We should have done that. Who did that? What a move. Legend. That's awesome. You should see all the Hall of Famers walking around, too. Imagine me walking right into them. What's up, boys? Couldn't see you guys. because obviously i mean i think that weekend is such a beautiful reminder of like there's levels to this oh yeah you know like i was in the back and i'm back there wearing all black you know walked into the ceremony damn near late but i did see it thank god shout to everybody making that happen but then i go to back to take photos like at award shows you get your award then you go to the back they take photos i didn't know that until the was happening i see that it's all the same thing like you do your speech you get inducted then there's it back there's like some photos that take place.

52:46Pat McAfee:I somehow ended up in the group that was going back to take photos. The people that were back there. I mean, Ty Law, what up? Joe Montana, hey, how's it going? Peyton Manning, what's up? Warren Sapp, holy hell, made a balls joke. Thanks, Warren, appreciate that. Let me go ahead and move. Imagine me, Jan Stetterud, fucking Morton Anderson, Adam Vinatieri's there, Andre Johnson, Devin Hester right here. I'm just kind of looking around the room right now and I'm like seeing all this. Imagine me wearing a fake old jacket. Yeah. Could you fathom? That'd be the move. That is the move. Hearing it now, that's genius.

53:14Who did that? I did not see that. I'll let you know. Yes, please do.

53:19Pat McAfee:That is an amazing move. Turned with Michael Block. All right. Blocky is still on the senior toilet. That tracks, though. That is something Blocky would do. Because he is a champion. Is that why you're saying that? Of the people. All right, let's talk about some other things happening. Baseball is happening right now. Scoob stinks. What's going on? Okay? Scoob, I heard, is going to be the reason why baseball is broken forever. Scoob is the reason why baseball is going to be done. The Dodgers are going to win the title with four of the last five fucking youngs, and they are going to dominate baseball like they've done over the last few years because they spend more deferred money than everybody else.

53:52Pat McAfee:And it's not fair, damn it. Scoob gets their team. He stinks, and the Tigers are really good. What the hell happened, and how did this take place? Is he going to find it? Is that what everybody just assumes? He'll find it. Everybody will find it by the time the playoffs come, and he'll never be able to beat the Dodgers in a seven-game series. Is that why it's still assumed this way, or why do we just expect Scoob to be great just because he has been in the past? Is that how this works out? Yeah, he's unbelievable. He's a two-time defending Cy Young. So, and I think, I mean, he went from the AL to the NL, so he's probably seeing guys for the first time.

54:21So it's a little bit of, and it's, you know, new scenario, new situation, new clubhouse, all this new stuff. But, like, that's the thing is, like, yeah, he pitched kind of like shit last night by his standards. Dodgers still won, came back and won 7-6. So it's one of those things where, like, all this stuff, they just want him to get comfortable with his new surroundings. None of this stuff matters until we get to the playoffs. He will still probably be, well, maybe not the game one starter for them in the playoffs, but he'll be game one or game two. And, yeah, I mean, same deal. He turns the tide in the Dodgers' favor massively.

54:56Pat McAfee:Are Dodgers still favorites to win it all? Yes. Like very, very? Yep. And now how about the Tigers? They've become one of the best teams in baseball since Scoob's got out of the clubhouse. What are you guys saying up there, Foxy? I don't like that at all. No, it's a dream scenario. This is exactly what we wanted as Tigers fans. sends Scooble over to the Dodgers, get something for him, and then try to make a playoff run. That's exactly what they're doing. This is awesome. Okay, hopefully the Tigers go on a big-time run. I believe Scoob's and Skipper Roberts are going to figure it out. Yeah. How's Shohei?

55:24He's still raking? Yep. Yeah, he's got a bum knee, though, so he hasn't been pitching. Yeah, he's not pitching, yeah. Which knee? What happened? I think it's his. The bum one.

55:34Pat McAfee:Not saying it. I'm not saying it. We're not 12-year-olds. We keep it moving. I just wanted to know. if it's left, right, the land doing with the plant one. Yeah, how... Probably a plant. I guess it's right knee, but I don't know. Right knee? I'm thinking it's his left. Could be his plant leg, but you know, I mean, that right leg is where you get a lot of the power as well. Because you're up there on the gravitational point. Yeah, pushing off. What's this called? It's left. Left hand. The bounty point? Oh, your bounty point, yeah. Balance point right here. And I'm transferring all that shit right here in the ass.

56:09Yep.

56:09Pat McAfee:Which is why a lot of these pitchers have massive cabooses. Big donk. Because then I'm sending the air. Big da donk. Da donk, yeah. I'm sending da donk through body. Through right there, right? But everything's twisting on that knee. Yeah, exactly. And same deal. They don't want him to hurt that knee further and then not be able to play at all. Because then whenever he's hitting, that thing's on the back, right? Mm-hmm. Because he throws right, he hits lefty? Yes. So that thing's now that's on the... Now it's pushing off that thing. Like Dak. He's still hitting him. He is still hitting. Yeah, I feel like that stick is always going to get big hits.

56:43Pat McAfee:Yeah. That show hit baseball, baby. Mm-hmm. I can't wait to see the Dodgers do it again. Maybe. And then just sit on it for two years. It's a tough National League. Nah, don't worry. Savannah Banana's got her back next year. Yep. Baseball. Hour 2 is on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life.

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58:02Pat McAfee:Hello, beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble abode, the DraftKings Thunderdome. On this Patriot Games Tuesday, August 11, 2026, our tour of the program begins now. Football is the greatest and we have storylines developing from joint practices all around the NFL. Eight teams will be having four joint practices starting today as the other squads try to climb their way to the top of Lombardi Mountain as the football season has officially begun. Now, life is obviously fantastic for football fans. Baseball is still doing it. The WNBA is in the middle of its most talked about time of the year.

58:41Pat McAfee:Really? Every day. Playoff push. Big playoff push as they get going. And obviously, basketball had a huge announcement. their Christmas Day games are now officially released. Congrats to the NBA making their big-time announcements. Now, if you do remember, Roger Goodell came into Christmas in the NBA's house, liked the Grinch, went down the chimney, took their shit, went back out. Now, Hall of Fame game got higher ratings than the NBA did on Christmas Day this last year. Christmas Day was the official start of the NBA season every single year. We'd see the biggest stars in the NBA on Christmas Day.

59:16Pat McAfee:We'd wake up in the morning and watch Christmas Story. And maybe wash the Santa Claus. Maybe open some gifts, have a good time. And then the NBA stars from yesterday and today would carry us through until the night after a nice nap and then a nightcap of whatever the hell you're doing. Then the NFL had a chance to experience Christmas a couple times, and they said, actually, you know what? This is going to be ours now. And it is. Yeah, those are three marquee matchups. Yes, good games. Big time. Packers, Bears, how you doing? Keep it moving. Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, taking on AFC champion finalists, Denver Broncos and Bo Nix and Sean Payton.

59:56Pat McAfee:Then, oh, yeah, Nightcap, reigning MVP, taking on reigning Super Bowl champion. Let's see what Adam Silver decided to do. We got the finals rematch between the Spurs and the Knicks. And I hate the fact that I love that. I'm not going to see a lot of that. No. Only the beginning. Noon. We only see the beginning of that. They need to run no commercials. We need to run hurry up basketball. Five minute quarters. Let's get that one done before football kicks off. Maybe start it at 8 a.m. That first hour may be the only hour we see. Is that the craziest thing? You wake up, you go, you open your presents, you turn on the TV.

1:00:37Holy shit. The Knicks and the Spurs are playing.

1:00:39Pat McAfee:Wemby and Jalen Brunson. No, the NBA has started. Breakfast and basketball? Oh, my God. Genius. Breakfast and hoops. That's what we do. Brunch ball. Oh, man. Christmas gifts, too. I mean, there's a chance that the NBA does become Christmas morning. Because we've been trying to tell them, Eve, you need to go to Christmas Eve. Right. We don't like what happened to you. We understand how much Christmas means to your association and to your league. Historically, we have watched the greats. Shaq, Kobe, Tim, MJ, Braun, Steph, Tyrese. Yeah. Where are they at? What was that? No, I agree, but he's right.

1:01:22I mean, it'll be a cold day in hell before the Pacers are playing on Christmas, unfortunately. I don't like it. I'm not making the schedule, but it's the truth. Yeah. Just in the finals.

1:01:35Pat McAfee:Anyways, we've loved Christmas for the NBA and for sports as a whole, But they need to go to Christmas Eve. The Big Bad Wolf showed up. And how old your way, right out of relevance, the Hall of Fame game now is getting bigger numbers than what Christmas Day used to get for the NBA. That's not good news. But we are appreciative of the matchups. LeBron taking on the Lakers. Oh, man. I want to watch that game. Me too. Put this on December 24th, please. LeBron versus Luka? Not this year. Not this year. Christmas Eve is a Thursday this year, so there's an NFL game. Yeah, we got some NFL games. Oh, okay.

1:02:06Pat McAfee:Starting next year. Boxing Day. Yes, the Canadas. The Canadas. Little Santa. Little Santa, yeah. Little baby Santa. Little Santa day. There's only one prem game now, so they can have Boxing Day. Okay, is that Little Santa day, Boxing Day? No, Little Santa, December 6th. There it is. NBA should have Little Santa day. Yeah. Okay, it's December 6th. It's a big deal. That blow up. Oh, Boxing Day this year would be bad, too. Oh, no. Sunday or Saturday or Monday or Thursday? Oh, no, no. Well, no, it's a full slate of college football problems. It's ball games. Yeah, but still. Dukes-Mayo Bowl. Yeah, you're watching the NBA over the ball games?

1:02:44Joining us now is I think not.

1:02:46Pat McAfee:That's not your NFL vet, Gary St. Butler. Best players aren't even playing. Unless we're watching CFP. Yeah. I'm not watching any other ball games. Well, unless, you know, my beloved Huskies. I watched the NBA on February 28th. I mean, on the 26th, it's not even quarterfinals, New Year's 6th. Both on a rotating basis. So I wouldn't worry about not seeing the NBA on that day. Started with 12. Cotton dined at 1. That's how we crowd CFP National Champion. Joining us now is the man who won a BCS National Championship.

1:03:26Pat McAfee:And he also started with 32. kind of down to one became a Super Bowl champion. And he played in the Ryder Cup and won his matchup but he did not become a Ryder Cup champion. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ? Very accurate. That was very accurate. But can we please stop overreacting to one-on-one clips during training camp? Shut up! Thank you, AJ. Okay, AJ. It's called practice. It's called practice for a reason. We're trying things. We're trying new techniques. We're trying to figure it out. It's not game day. We need to be running this. This is not what we need to be running. AJ Brown. Great route, by the way.

1:04:07It's football.

1:04:08Pat McAfee:AJ Brown's trying something new in this one. It's called unguardable. I don't know how you go from fifth gear to sixth gear to third gear like that, but that's what AJ Brown's doing. And obviously, he's been working against Gonzo. Sauce stays in the mix, gets the tag off. So what? You get a first down. We live to see another day. Speaking of another day, the Colts had a great day, allegedly. All reports coming from New England reporters are that the Colts bounced back in a big way. And on seven on seven, Tyler Warren was unguardable. Josh Downs was scoring touchdowns. Daniel Jones, he's spinning it.

1:04:38Pat McAfee:And this against the New England Patriots, who we think is a damn good football team. Yeah, it's a great football team. Okay. Okay? Yeah. Gonzo's not out there. But again, it's a great football team. Alec Pierce isn't out there. But once again, I feel very good about where the Colts news is right now. versus what I was seeing out of the first couple plays that were coming for practice. And I want to let you know, I appreciate and respect you saying, hey, let's not overreact to these things. Let's not let our emotions be affected by clips that we're seeing in a drill that we have no idea what the context is.

1:05:10Pat McAfee:Let's make sure we understand it. But I'm going to let you know, I did. I thought the Colts were going to lose every game whenever I saw sauce getting cooked like that. Sure. And then all of a sudden I hear, guess what? The Colts are actually doing pretty good in their practice as well. We need some video of that. Well, we're never going to get it, okay? We're never going to get out of this. Jeez. You've seen these clips. No, they've got to do the – What, are they too humble? Is that why? No. Yeah. No, they've got this super cool sticky arm thing. You remember what it was? Oh, yeah. Spider-Man for Spider-Man.

1:05:37Pat McAfee:Yeah, you get Spider-Man movies out. It was cool. That's what we're going to see today is, did you guys see – look at Sauce. He's with two hands with the Spider-Man thing doing this. And it's like, well, the Patriots social media, you know what they're doing? They're putting football plays out there. And you know what I'm doing? feeling like we're losing the Super Bowl on August 11, 2026. So I'd like a little bit of defense from our social team. Now, it had to come through the Patriots supporters and Colts fan Logan. Okay, Colts fan Logan, I appreciate all the optimism. He was doing it. Shane Steichen comes on immediately after practice.

1:06:10Pat McAfee:He's like, yeah, I like what we did. But he's going to say he likes what we did. Right. Movie. I mean, what would you rather be good at, one-on-ones or 11-on-11s? Well, Colts weren't good at that because it was seven-on-seven. But still, hearing that Tyler Warren was like the focal point. Like you would be worried without Alec Pierce. But if they're just going all in on Warren and we're looking at him being like the number one option on their offense after Jonathan Taylor. Like that's great news. Especially if he's going into a second year. Nope. Need Alec out there. Of course. But if we got Josh Dines.

1:06:41Pat McAfee:Yep. Okay. Who can work? Yeah. Who can work? We got Tyler Warren. And we got Pierce. Ashton Doolin. Feels like we got three levels. Oh, yeah. Perfect. Feels like we got him. And Jonathan Taylor out of the back. Healthy. Healthy DJ. And then we got Shane Steichen in there. Still got Ogletree? Look at this. This is going to be a frigging touchdown. This is going to be a frigging touchdown. That's what he says every play. Look at this. This is going to be a frigging touchdown. Oh, my God. We're calling a draw. It might be a frigging touchdown. Look at this. That's what he says on the sideline. Could you imagine Daniel Jones hearing that every single time?

1:07:10Pat McAfee:Look, it might be a frigging touchdown here, Daniel. He's like, yeah. It might be, actually. Oh, I broke my leg. That's what Daniel Jones said. What? Again? It might be a frigging touchdown. Oh, I tore my Achilles. That's what last year was. And then we lost eight straight games. You know how miserable that was? It was awful. We went to a couple. Penthouse, outhouse. Now we're battling with the New England Patriots in New England. Joining us now is a man who might be able to tell us a little bit more information about why. Is John Gordon planting seeds all over the Indianapolis Colts organization?

1:07:42Pat McAfee:Could be. The man who broke that news to us is obviously an Emmy Award-winning host, a pundit, an analyst, and an incredibly handsome man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pierce Shrakes. Yay! Shrakes, how we doing? I'm doing great. I never thought I'd be John Gordon's publicist, but this is the walk I walk, and this is the life I lead. I had no idea it was going that way. But what a dynamic guest he was on Friday. I loved it. Yeah, absolutely. He had quotes for quotes. He said, you can't be stressed and thankful at the same time. Love, obviously, casts a shadow over fear, you know, so you can't have all these.

1:08:13Pat McAfee:He's basically telling you everything you're thinking that's wrong, don't do it. You need to talk to yourself. You need to keep it moving. But he has a quote for everything. I cannot wait to chit-chat with him more. You might have set up something that's better for all of our lives. Now, let's talk about being better for my life. Indianapolis Colts look good against Patriots this morning. How much are you taking away from these joint practices? And have you been to boots on the ground, any camps yet? What is your biggest takeaway? Yeah, I take a lot from the joint practices. Now, I'm with AJ. I don't think the one-on-one drilling, the social media highlight, and the fan from the crowd filming something is anything worth getting worked over.

1:08:43But you better believe that in 2026, these coaches, they take more into this, the joint practices where ones are going against one in the preseason game. Sean McVay has not played starters in a preseason game since he got there. But you better believe when they go against the Cowboys in their inner camps practice, it's going to be ones on ones. It's going to be CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens going up against Watson and McDuffie. We're going to see where we're at. All that stuff matters. This is where these guys really get to know who they are. I talked to Robert Sala last week. He's got three different joint practices set.

1:09:18Those guys are doing San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle. He's like, we're going to know what we are. We're going to get tough that way. So I don't think the preseason games matter as much as they used to. I don't think the teams want to get risks to injury. That's for when we see who's going to make the team. But for ones and the guys who are starting, inter-camp practices, the inter-squad practices, this is a big, big deal for the start of the season.

1:09:38Pat McAfee:Good work, good work. Always going to be a fight. But the team seemingly more and more are louder about, hey, don't fight each other, we're going to kick you out of practice. And every once in a while, a couple guys are just going to have to throw fists at each other, and then everybody has to show up, because if you don't show up at a fight and you're on film, you might not make the team because of it. So, you know, it's always one thing leading to another, but we love these joint practices as well. AJ has a question for you, Shregs. Yeah, Shregs, sticking with Robert Sala. I know, obviously, Brian Dable gets down there.

1:10:02He's the offensive coordinator working with Cam Ward. We see all this stuff. It's tough not to get excited, I'm not going to lie, watching Carnell Tate catch the ball in Tennessee Titans training camp. He seems to be catching everything. I guess what are you hearing out of Tennessee and Cam Ward's development under Dable? Yeah, it's been lights out. One of the reasons that Sala ran to that job was Cam Ward and the pieces that they have. What he tells me, which is great, is that Jeffrey Simmons is even better than he imagined. And then you've got Cam Ward on offense, and these guys bark at each other the entire practice.

1:10:33Cam Ward is one of these guys that will not be scared to get in the face of a defensive tackle to get his offense going. they are very excited about not only the addition of the rookie Tate, who's going to come along, but Brian Dable brought over Wondell Robinson, a guy who maybe didn't fulfill expectations in New York, but they paid him real money. And Dable's like, I want that guy. And then Bellinger, that was a guy he had. We want that guy. Cordell Flott was in New York. Dable's like, go get that guy. And then Salah, he brought over John Franklin Myers, Solomon Thomas, Jermaine Johns, like all of these players that were with the Jets and Giants coming to a Tennessee team that hasn't been good the last few years.

1:11:11There's this feeling of chip on the shoulder, new culture, and two former head coaches and Robert Sala and Brian Dable working together to get this team in the conversation in the AFC. But you saw the quarterback series on Netflix. This kid is the real deal, Cam Ward. And if all the early reports are coming together, Carnell Tate might be an immediate impact guy too.

1:11:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, I love Cam Ward. I love Cam Ward's family. I love Cam Ward's story. Started at, what was that school? Washington. Incarnate word. Incarnate word, yeah. And then moved with the OC, then moved with the OC, then goes to Miami, flips their entire culture, sets them up in a big way, and then you listen to anybody talk about him that's been around him. It's like this guy's all ball, all leadership, and talks a lot of shit, which I love everything about. Now, you just mentioned something that could be scary for Tennessee Titans fans to hear. Oh, great. These guys brought a bunch of Giants and Jets in.

1:12:01Pat McAfee:Cool. That's great. That's great. But what we would like to say, and I think you were saying, is these are the guys that I think if these two were to be head coaches again would like to shape their culture around as opposed to everything else that happened, which is why they come to Tennessee. And obviously they got studs across the board. New stadium coming. It's sick. Nashville is the – I mean, Nashville is the greatest. I mean, that would be a great place to be good at football. We shall see if they're able to make it happen. Do like seeing Carnell Tate have his Terry McLaurin, Emeka Ibuka type stuff coming out of Ohio State.

1:12:34Pat McAfee:Now, they're saying there's a kid coming out of West Virginia that could change everything going forward. Who's that? All of them. Okay. Is that right? Yeah, well, Rich Rod's actually saying, I wish these guys would have came in a little bit better shape, seemingly not as tough as I would like, but we got time to fix that entire thing. Just know that there's going to be young guys coming from West Virginia that are going to impact the league quickly, but it feels like Peter's got a different list. Go ahead, D-Buds. Yeah, Shregs, I saw your list today, the A-list, the top five impact rookies. We were just talking about Cardinal Tate.

1:13:00We watched some Jordan Tyson highlights yesterday, Dave Montser, Delane, Corner out of Kansas City Chiefs. Who was kind of the first guy out from your list? I saw the top five. Three, Ohio State to begin it. And then who was the first guy out in your opinion? Yeah, the top five. I went Caleb Downs, one. Sonny Styles, two. Arbel Reese, three. Jeremiah Love, four. And then Kalen Rutledge as five. Number six to me, if we're going to say, like, who's going to be that guy, it might have to be actually Makai Lemon in Philly because he's going to have to play a role. They're not expecting that he's just going to slowly come along.

1:13:37Mekhi Lemon was picked right before Pittsburgh, as we know how that whole thing went. He was taken because they think if we get rid of A.J. Brown, this guy can play a role. And I really wanted to focus on the players that are going to be asked the most to do. So Mendoza might big picture be that guy, and maybe Tyson and maybe Tate. But I was at Giants camp yesterday, guys. This is kind of a decide on number three, Arvel Reese. I don't mean to get Giants fans too overly excited here, But I had a coach pull me aside and was like, before these guys get out there, you have to go look at Arvel Reese.

1:14:06I go, okay. I've seen a million football players before. I've shaken Adrian Peterson's hand. He almost broke my hand. I've seen A.J. Hawken in the locker room. I'm not awed by what football players look like. All of them. Arvel Reese looks like RoboCop, dude. He is enormous with huge arms. And he has this entire look to him where you're like, okay, well, that guy is going to play on it. he's playing inside linebacker next to Terrell Edmonds. They both look like they're absolute beasts in the middle. And what they're saying is Reese doesn't say a word. He doesn't talk. He just is in the facility all day long, studying and getting better and has been nailing guys, like dominating practices as a rookie.

1:14:48And that's up against Pat Ricard and up against Scadaboo. So I think that's the instant impact I'm looking for. And Reese kind of brings more than just tackles and stats and all that. Guys like Reese and Stiles and Downs, they're also culture setters. And their guys are telling you it's a new era here. Giants, Washington, and Dallas, all in the NFC East, they need new culture. They need new feel. And I think those three guys really establish it.

1:15:12Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, Harbaugh is really implementing his style early in. Yeah. We watched an interview on NFL. I was there yesterday, Pat. It was, I said this on first take, I'll say it a different way. Like, picture the country club or the five-star resort or the discovery club, whatever it is. Everything opposite of that is what I saw yesterday. Two and a half hours of hitting. And they were telling me, like, we were in West Virginia together for 13 days with no nights out to the club, no days off, none of it. Like, hitting for 10 days, maximum days in pads. And it was not, like, a fun let's go company offsite meal.

1:15:48This was, we are going to make adversity happen. We're going to overcome this. And on the other side of it, talked to Odell Beckham yesterday. He's like, it was awesome. Like, we hit the crap out of each other, and at the end of it, like, we came together as a team, and it really feels like Harbaugh is saying, we have to do this stuff first before we're actually legitimately talking about anything else. We have to get tougher, and we want it to make it as difficult as possible in August that you can in 2026.

1:16:12Pat McAfee:And I think I heard some leaked audio where Harbaugh said, we're fighting the same battles on this field today that they were fighting back in those days. Come on. Which days? Inspirational. Those days. I mean, which one's been a lot of days? The bad days. The bad days. The bad days. You know, it's like McAdoo days. Yeah, the Pat Shermer era. Yeah. I mean, great days, too, up there, no? No, that's not what Harbaugh was talking about. He's talking about the fight. Right there on those West Virginia fields, he was saying, on these fields. Yeah. Same blood. Bubbling with blood. Same blood. Hot land.

1:16:49Pat McAfee:Same battles. Okay. That's what he was saying. Mm-hmm. And it's crazy that on the other side of it, they came together. Yeah. Let's go! Yep. Strong. Strong. That's what I was thinking. I was saying, remember the Titans. Oh, is that what you were thinking? I'm happy you are. Just like that. Shrags, Arvel Reese, funny story about Arvel Reese before we move to the new conversation, just to echo your sentiment about, hey, take a look at this guy. Ohio State last year was the first game day. And as I was running up on set, a guy named Sean over there, a legend, absolute beast. I don't remember his last name at this point.

1:17:23Pat McAfee:AJ might know it better than that. Perkins. Sean Perkins. Sean Perkins, okay, who is taking care of us. We love Sean. The man. Huge Ohio head. Huge. Looks like a Buckeye. Yeah, he does. I mean, he is Ohio. You look at this guy. He's been around the Buckeyes for a very long time. He's been very good to us. Stop by him. I go, hey, who's somebody? Make me look like a smart person. Like, who should I talk about up here? And he goes, Arvel Reese is somebody that nobody's talking about. I go up there. I don't say it one time. I didn't say it one time. Just for some reason, I'm like, I didn't say. I think he had, I don't know.

1:17:53Pat McAfee:I think he'd, like, wreck the entire game. Three sacks. Yeah, I would have looked like an absolute genius. And then from that point forward, that Ohio State defense was just like, oh, pick your poison here. You got Sonny. You got Arvell. You got Caleb. You got Matt Patricia in the back doing this. Cady McDonald. Oh, yeah. Cady McDonald. Curry. Yeah. Also, Caden Curry. Yeah, Latham on one side. And then on the other side, Igbenoson. Oh, my God. I mean, that defense was outrageous in there. And it was hard to stick out. Arvell Reese definitely did. And if you looked at him, it was like, what the fuck is that?

1:18:26Pat McAfee:How does that exist? Did you see Odyssey yet? Did you see the movie Odyssey? Oh, so good, Drago. Great. I'm not following that. He looked like the Cyclops. I'm looking at R.V.L. Reese. I thought you were going to say you ought to see these. Or that coach. You seen that coach? At Bama? In the movie? No, on the sideline with the new pad. Yeah, Bama. Oh, yeah. That was Bama? Yeah, that's Bama. That's Kalen DeBoer's work. Saban tested those out. Did he? Yeah, Saban was the one that said, let me get my arms on these things. Boom, boom, boom. There he is. The rep. You're not in Kansas anymore. That looks like the avatar.

1:19:03Pat McAfee:Yeah, it does. The thing there as we're doing movie references. Okay, let's move along. Let's do a little chitter-chatter about football that's happening. Breaking news happened today. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Schrager passed talking about Minnesota. Kyler Murray now the starting QB. J.J. McCarthy, nine. Maybe taking kind of the backseat here now. learning a little bit maybe they will be friends not on the opposite side of the classroom but what is your take on Kyler being the starter is this something you were kind of hearing going back a little bit or was this something that surprised you seeing that a lot of the reports were that it was a much tighter race and that sometimes everybody was having a good day sometimes everybody was having a bad day yeah the reports have been damning for both guys I think Sunday night the the public practice did not do Kyler Murray any favors in the court of public opinion when everybody from Alec Lewis and Kevin Seifert and the guys who were there on the ground were saying that J.J.

1:19:56outplayed Kyler Murray in this practice and Kyler threw two picks in 11 on 11. But trust me, they weren't getting Kyler Murray and causing all this in that building if they believe that J.J. McCarthy had a runaway spot at this position. They went and they got Kyler Murray. They didn't have to. They paid him three million dollars. It's a very low contract. but the second Kyler Murray was added as a free agent acquisition and the second Kyler Murray chose to go there this was Kyler Murray's job to lose whether Kevin would say it or not it might have been an open battle it very well could have been the fact of the matter is McCarthy did not beat him out in camp and here we are getting it done now so this doesn't drag on every day and we're doing one of these hey who got the one reps who got the two reps who's gonna play in the preseason that doesn't do anybody any favors iron sharpens iron and all that but it's Kyler's job and guess what if kyler doesn't play great out of the gates then it'll be jj's job it's not like it's a lifetime supreme court justice decision that this guy's job is set in stone we'll see how kyler does but the second they signed kyler murray you guys better believe it former first overall pick kevin o 'connell was saying i need that on my team and that's what's going to get us over the

1:21:03Pat McAfee:hump adam teeland was on nfl live a couple weeks ago and he said uh this is kyler's job to lose and everybody's like whoa that's the first time we've heard that because everything else has just been fair competition it is fair competition they're competing against each other now senior nfl insider adam sheffer is michigan man yes he is and ian rapaport though after his conversations with people in high places he said the same thing this is a competition it's a competition so we're all trying to figure out and read the tea leaves of who they're going to go with you said if tyler stinks then jj will take his spot you think jj trade bait right now because he's kind of done and they do have the carson wentz experience standing literally right there ready number 11 is standing right there what do you think happens with jj it sounds like you think he stays i think he stays because the the salary itself is not crazy it's the year three next year when it's hey okay we eventually have to pay this guy that's when you start talking whether he's trade bait i would also add less than 12 months ago i was on the sidelines on monday night football when jj mccarthy beats the bears and kevin o 'connell's doing flips on the sideline and in the locker room they were acting as if jj mccarthy was the savior things change in this league and the same team that let Sam Darnold walk out the building, the same team that let Daniel Jones out the building, I think they would be a little more cautious to letting J.J.

1:22:15McCarthy walk out the building and just say, if he's under contract, it's good to have J.J. McCarthy on this team. He's maturing. I've seen him play probably 25 games of college football. There might have been no better leader and winner at that level. He didn't suddenly forget all that. In fact, he's better this year. It's just this was Kyler's job to lose.

1:22:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, they're just wondering if nine's the right thing for the NFL, You brought up that Chicago game. I mean, I remember. That's why he did it. NFC player. Yes. That fourth quarter was incredible. Some people fell asleep. They missed it. They woke up the next morning and it was like, hey, J.J. McCarthy won crazy last night. It's like, this is the future. This is why they did what they did. This is why they moved on. And then obviously injuries have cut into all of it. A man that needs reps in that offense certainly wasn't able to get it. The way Schefter's tweeting the news is fascinating. I don't know if you guys read the slant he had.

1:23:04Well, that's because Shefter wrote that tweet with a tear in his eye.

1:23:07Pat McAfee:Well, maybe. Maybe two tears. Tear in his eye. J.J. McCarthy missed his entire rookie season due to injury. And started just 10 games last year, with Minnesota winning six of them. Now he's still only a 23-year-old. We'll be forced to back up. Yeah. Makes sense. That's some pros. That's bullshit, Sheftery. That's a Michigan man. That's messed up. Yeah. That's so like you typed over the tear in his eye. Two tears. That's a Michigan man. I'll tell you, that is news. That is. Hey, Sheftery would say, what did I say that was wrong? What did I say that was wrong? No, fact. He said everything's a fact, which it certainly is.

1:23:36Pat McAfee:He'd be right. But on that note, them even looking for another quarterback at this moment probably tells us that J.J. maybe off the field isn't exactly what they're looking for as a quarterback of their franchise as well. So maybe he gets a chance to grow, and maybe Kyler Murray and Kevin O 'Connell do something that the NFL's never seen before. Maybe. Because there's a chance. What was that? What was that, Tom? No, just a lot of people acting like we haven't seen like six years of Kyler, and he's just his rookie year number one overall pick. We've seen Kyler. Oh, come on. Come back like he's some bum.

1:24:08I didn't say he was a bum.

1:24:10Pat McAfee:Have you seen Kyler spin one of these right here? I've seen the reports out of practice from Kyler, too. You don't know the offense. You don't have a clue what's going on out there. I mean, these people are running all over the place. He doesn't know why. Wait until he understands what's going on. I'm going to say it's a tough division. Let's see if they don't finish fourth. If they do end up trading JJ, it will go down as the biggest blunder in the history of NFL football. Let's say I'm darn will leave. Well, that GM has been fired, though. Yep. Okay, they have moved on from that year. McCarthy, he left early, right?

1:24:36He made that new deal. He can maybe go see if he can get another year at Michigan. Yeah, five in the fifth year, yeah.

1:24:40Pat McAfee:Oh, wow. They would need him. Oh, wow. I was going to say, he could go play Michigan this year. Might have too much hate. Kyle Whittingham, grandfather to 11 children, Mormon man in Michigan. Let's go. Okay, not only Mormon man, also saying, so if I have hate in my heart for a place that's going to make our team better, I don't think so. Yeah. They should have fired him on the spot. I like it. For saying that. Unbelievable. The whole strength is on your side, it sounds like. Yeah, well, it's the game. It's the greatest college football rivalry in the nation, and you're going to come in and start with that?

1:25:14Shut up.

1:25:15Pat McAfee:Well, listen, AJ said he was asked the same question about winning him, and you heard the way the Ohio State people speak. Yeah, I'm sure he's a good coach, man. They call him winning, huh? I think he's a great guy. He sounds like a really good guy, honestly. Do you have any hate in your heart for him? Yes. He's an amazing guy. I don't have any hate for the head coach, no. Definitely no hate for him. That's what Whittingham was trying to say, what AJ said. But Ryan Day's coming out saying, I had to have 24-7 security because we fucking lost to these guys. Buckeye fans. So, yeah, I hate everything.

1:25:41Pat McAfee:It just got there. Yeah, Whittingham, maybe he needs to be tried and true a little bit. Yeah, he needs to be blessed in the fire. Yeah, someone from Ohio State, maybe AJ needs to pay him a visit. Beat the piss out of him. I don't think that's going to happen. That guy's going 80 miles an hour down triple black diamonds, remember. That's true. This guy rode motorcycle. Yeah, riding his Harley with no sleeves. That's fine. Who did? winning him? Yes. He came to our show in Utah. He showed up to our show in Utah on a Harley. Literally came around. I didn't know this. Yeah. He's like a super duper certified skier, obviously, out there in Utah.

1:26:14Pat McAfee:82 miles. He showed me. He had something on his watch. I guess it keeps his speed. He showed me. He was like 82 miles an hour yesterday. It's moving. That's moving. Crazy. Yeah. Look at him. Yeah, that's him on the motorcycle. So whatever you say. I didn't know he had this in him. I take it back with my, he's a nice man, 11 grandkids, the whole thing. He's a good man. He's still a good man. He's still a good man. He's still a good man. There's no reason to say he's not. He's a badass. I think that needs to be... He's not a badass to him. I think he naturally comes in there and obviously everybody that had hired him is gone now, right?

1:26:48Pat McAfee:He is really the only Michigan person representative. Maybe he didn't have anybody tell him immediately like, hey, by the way, anytime we're asked about... Just say you fucking hate him. BYU thing. It's like the BYU thing, Utah, you know? That was foolish. What did Sig do, you know? What did Sig do? Produced, thanks. They did. Son of Michigan, Ohio State. And who else? Did he say Iowa as well? He should have. That probably should have stopped. No, he would never say that because he respects Iowa more than damn near any other team in the country outside of his own Indiana Hoosiers. I saw Reese Davis and he's sitting in a desk and I saw Sig's feet up on the table as he was breaking down clips.

1:27:26Pat McAfee:It was against Iowa. Yeah, it was. What was it? That was when he learned Fernando was the guy, right? I didn't watch the clip. I assume that that's the case. I mean, well, we were kind of just voicing it over in here, and I never really went back and watched it. Because Sig has said many, many good things about Iowa. I don't want to taint that and maybe stumble into something where he's like, yeah, I mean, he's gosh, you know, we knew we had our asses right there. I don't need to hear anything like that. I'm just going to stick with, hey, this guy thinks Iowa's the best team in the nation. That is what it is.

1:27:54Pat McAfee:in what he said, what they were about to show is the clip. I think it was really well done. I don't know what it's for. I'm excited to see it. It kind of hit the internet yesterday, hit ESPN yesterday pretty hard. But I think it was when Sig said that he didn't know how Fernando knew that guy was going to be open, and he also got hit in the face. And it was at that moment he realized, like, this guy might have a little something. This guy might have a little something. Then they showed Hoover, who was their transfer from TCU, similar type player, which is why Sig says that he likes what's going to potentially happen, but Sig would not compliment and say that new hoover has done anything no you can't which is classic signetti but nonetheless one of his quarterbacks fernando mendoza has a little situation brewing over there in las vegas which we certainly need to know more about go ahead ty yeah shriek so now that we have the qb battle in minnesota pretty much done what about the qb battle in las vegas really haven't seen uh many clips come out of their camp outside of mad max crosby man maybe trying to intentionally hurt kurt cousins uh i i don't know what the deal what are you hearing from raiders camp because clint kubiak did say hey best player is going to start you know but we haven't really heard much yeah i i that by the way that crosby deal that came out that coming from like the official espn account was like okay is this ai is this real truth the matter is crosby is known to play to the end of the whistle even in practice and there have been teammates in the past who have said after leaving like that guy's the man he's a great player he's also a pain in the ass to play against in practice because he doesn't stop so i could see cousins being a little po'd with all that i would also imagine cousins has the leg up on mendoza just for the fact that they are trying to do a long-term rebuild here with clint kubiak who has worked with cousins before and the two of them know the same verbiage same offense and andrew ginoco who's the offensive coordinator has the same exact offense.

1:29:41So it's plug and play with Kirk. Now, the version of Cousins that we've seen the last few years hasn't been the version of Cousins that those guys coached way back when. Question is, at what point does Mendoza take over? I know they're not going to declare Cousins the day one starter, but I would imagine, talking to league sources, Cousins has a serious leg up on Mendoza, not because of play necessarily, but because of the situation and the comfort in easing him in and getting him ready to play. They don't want to do anything too soon for a team that's probably not looking to win the Super Bowl this year.

1:30:12Pat McAfee:Tom Brady, obviously one of the owners of the Raiders, sat behind Drew Bledsoe, learned a little bit, and then obviously whenever he got in, took the realm. Nothing ever stopped him. So maybe they're doing the same for Fernando. We're firm believers in Fernando Mendoza. And I'll tell you what, if he's going to have to deal with Max Crosby hitting him in practice for the rest of his career, I don't like that one bit. I don't like that one bit. Now listen, you talked about how Max Crosby never stops. I respect that. I do appreciate that. Stay off the quarterback is something that has been talked about since the beginning of time in football.

1:30:44Pat McAfee:Has Max Crosby just been pounding quarterbacks his entire career? That's a real question. That is a real question for me. And I genuinely, that seems like a complete alternate universe than anything that I've ever seen in the NFL practice, especially with the millions of dollars that are placed into these quarterbacks for their franchise. Has Max Crosby been hitting quarterbacks in practice his entire career? And has that just not been talked about? Is this just, like, normal for him? No, I've heard this before prior to this that he's done it before. So it's not that it's necessarily something he does commonly, but I think it's more of a product of this guy plays in practice at 110 miles per hour every play.

1:31:30A lot of people do that, bro. A lot of people play 110 miles an hour in practice

1:31:33Pat McAfee:and stay away from the fucking quarterback. The halo around him, man. This is me punter just watching practice. Stay off the quarterback. Stay away from the quarterback. Do not touch. The quarterback is every other, I don't know, maybe three plays probably. Since you're in fifth grade. If Max is just pounding quarterbacks at practice, I guess be who you can afford to be. Blindside, you guys. Oh, my God. That is crazy. Sorry. That is crazy. Sorry, Kirk. I mean, what a weapon, dude. What an absolute weapon that you get away with that. Get paid. Also, be on a team and still, like, respected and appreciated.

1:32:11Pat McAfee:What a stunt. Is that why he got cut from Baltimore? Is that why they re-did it? What practice? Hey, what are you going to do if you come around the corner and Lamar's there and he just said, light him up. No, fun fact. Lamar was walking through the hallway. He was walking through the hallway. Picks him up. Throws him into the wall. Get used to that. Always. That's what he's doing. Honestly, do you know if he's always hit quarterbacks in practice? So I've heard in the past that this, when the Cousins deal happened and before that, this is not the first time that a quarterback has had taken issue on the team that, hey, like, dude, chill out.

1:32:42And it's not necessarily taking their head off or anything, but that there is a certain intensity that he brings to practice every single day that isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea when you're on the other side of it and you're trying to go through some practices and get your stuff right.

1:32:54Pat McAfee:Hey, that's Matt Rosby football. Yep. Matt Axe. Dude, that's him off the field too. He's always on 11th. Black boy Max. I think that's why you love him. Leron Landry took out Reggie Wayne in a walkthrough. Did he really? Notepad. First day of mandatory minicamp. First day we saw Leron the entire offseason. 265. Full speed. Safety. Had tassels, I believe, on his jerseys already. It was unbelievable. I've never seen anything like that. What was the reaction? 14 Reggie. Reggie Wayne down the sideline. Okay. Just getting the ball. Leron literally shoulder through chest. Damn. I think Reggie held onto it.

1:33:37Pat McAfee:Of course. I think Reggie goes down. And then I think there was like a throw of the ball. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think he threw that. Yeah. And then there was obviously a full gathering. And then Chuck, Jesus Christ, we can't be hitting Reggie Wayne. I would pay good money for a show where you guys just tell like training camp and practice stories like this. I am on the edge of my seat because I remember Leron Landry. Yeah. He got drafted out of LSU and then was built like, I don't know, a linebacker. Hulk Hogan. Maybe that's even being generous. And then the thought of him laying out a Hall of Famer and Reggie Wayne, the thought of all that is absolutely unbelievable.

1:34:11Pat McAfee:Should be Hall of Famer. But yeah, walkthrough. Not even practice. This is the first walkthrough of the day. We got practice in the afternoon. We're just kind of going through what's all going to happen later as we're all getting comfortable with a mandatory minicamp. Welcome to the team. Just made the Pro Bowl. It was first time seeing them. We had 99 % attendance for all the voluntary and then he showed up at the mandatory's our first time seeing him i don't remember this never met the guy never met him no never met he walked in holy shit i mean i think he had music playing as he walked in nice i've never been more impressed with a physical specimen as a walk by and i think i even gave a holy shit just walking by as you walk by yeah then he always had uh yeah what up whoa hello whoa what up whoa what up whoa okay whoa okay whoa and he had a red drink always.

1:34:58Pat McAfee:And man, he was fucking flying out there. I mean, it was... Soccer shoes, because it made them quicker. Yep. He was ready to do special teams if we needed him. Hey, man, it seems like you're not doing as much on defense right now. You come play special teams, you got to woop. Put him on kickoff return. Hey, just need you to go blindside this guy. You got to woop. All pro safety playing kickoff return. Death machine for the other side. I mean, I love that, man. Oh, yeah. He was great in the locker room. Hilarious. There was a couple things that made him miss some games. Hey, that's going to happen.

1:35:31Pat McAfee:Sure. When you look like that, it's going to happen from my understanding. They're going to get you. They're going to get you every once in a while, you know. But him and Gucci live a good life. Oh, yeah. Him and Gucci, his pet monkey. God. Really? He had a pet monkey? How big? I saw it. I said, I got to give me one of those, man. Serious, bro. Him and Gucci had to have a moment. Him and Gucci had to have an alpha moment. This is incredible. Leron Landry is the most entertaining human I have ever encountered. Really? Oh, I wish he would speak more. He should. He should come out and do his thing, Leron Landry.

1:36:04Pat McAfee:I'm not mistaken. He had a brother, DeJuan Landry, also playing in the Ravens, right? Also safety, I think. I saw Leron do maybe 250 tricep bulldog. Just straight through. And then I think he flipped that thing and did like another 200 of these. I said, so that's what it is. He goes, yeah, there's 10 of these a day. Whoa. And he walked away. And I was like, whoa, whoa. I took a sip of that drink one game day. How'd you do? Big mistake. What'd you get? Big hour. It was. You boozed up immediately. A little buzzing out there? It was like I threw 90 zins in my mouth. It was. What do we think was crazy?

1:36:41Pat McAfee:Hey, that's whoa football, baby. 81-80, baby. That's what he said. Hey, people need a little bit more appreciation. You sure? You sure, whoa? You sure, whoa? I'm on Landry. Yeah, I'm sure. Give me that shit. You came and checked up on me probably two drives in. You all right? How's the heart? How's your heart doing? Everything okay? I love that, man. Hey, well, we hope you're great, man. Thank you for the entertainment. And on that note, Shregs, just kind of wasted your time there at the end with the LeBron Landry story. But we appreciate the hell out of you, man. We appreciate you. You're the man, dude.

1:37:08Thank you so much.

1:37:08Pat McAfee:You guys are the best. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. See you, Pete Schrager. Here's a picture of LeBron Landry showing up at Indianapolis Colts training camp. Yeah. I love that you tried it on game day first. Like, not even. I mean, yeah. That's the day. That's the day to try. Well, I know you. I know you, and there's some things you won't do on game day. Exactly. Anymore. Mostly anything. You know what? You look game ready. I want to get where you're at. Maybe I'm not ready as you are. Let's get there. Dude, Reggie. Where did I get there? Dude, yes, you did, I assume. I don't remember what game it was.

1:37:41Pat McAfee:I didn't see it, but I'm happy you tried it out. Just be a good teammate a little bit. Reggie Wayne did not like that. That was a tough introduction. That's crazy. Yeah, but Le 'Ron didn't change one bit. I mean, he wasn't hitting people square anymore in walkthroughs, but he was certainly buzzing the tower. I mean, it was every single time. Every single time. He never failed. Maverick. We're doing walkthrough, two-minute, you name it. He's buzzing the tower every single time. Special teams, you got him on pump block. Okay, we're doing punt save. Sweet. He's running right back. I mean, he's trying to block kick in practice.

1:38:15Pat McAfee:It was awesome. I mean, it was an incredible thing. And, yeah, he did look like this, though. I mean, this is what you get running around the field. I mean, that is – that's the wrong line. I remember. He walked in looking like that day one. I mean, it was awesome. Tassels on his shirt, fucking sunglasses. Just walked in like – They say he's a hybrid? Yeah, he wouldn't be a DN safety hybrid. Which, by the way, now they got the X. They got the star thing that's going on. He would have been ahead of his time. And I'm going to tell you, tackles would not have slept if this guy was coming off the edge.

1:38:48That's just regular old creatine in his hand. That's right. Take your creatine, boys.

1:38:53Pat McAfee:And that's a Tuesday night. That's not show day or anything. That's just random Tuesday. And I assume he still looks like that exactly. Golly, what a fun time. All right, let's go through some news happening around. Aaron Donald's going to be a member of the Los Angeles Rams. Yep. When? Soon. Breaking? No, I didn't get a message or anything. This is just like it seems like from the beginning, nobody has put the brakes on anything. And obviously he's working out at the Rams facility, and he's working out with our players and staff, and he's rehabbing and recovering. And he just wants to know. Yeah, he does still have it, if you're wondering.

1:39:26Pat McAfee:Yeah, he, yep. Yeah, he still has. I haven't seen the knives yet. I guess that would be kind of final boss of training for Aaron Donald when they get the knives back out. But all indications are telling us that Aaron Donald and Myles Garrett are going to be on the same D-line this upcoming season. Yes, that team is the odds-on favorite to win the Super Bowl, but they are in the same division as the actual Super Bowl champions the Seattle Seahawks. AJ, just kind of your thoughts. Has this kind of been like the worst-kept secret or like something that hasn't really been hidden from anybody, but seemingly a real Aaron Donald mental test to see where he's at?

1:39:58Pat McAfee:I think he's probably just trying to figure himself out, you think, at this stage? Yeah, I guess he's just trying to see how his body responds, I guess, to some more rigorous type workouts. We know the guy is always in the weight room. We see him working out with Dwayne The Rock Johnson, doing all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I just wonder when he's going to officially sign. We know he can still move we know he looks like he doesn't have any ailing injuries that slow him down at all so I guess he's just trying to gauge how his body will respond and I would assume his body is responding pretty damn well watching him go through these things.

1:40:27Pat McAfee:How about if you're in recovery and you're like great now my every rehab session is going to be broadcasted to the world right behind Aaron Donald. Alright Aaron you go first and then I'll go thanks. Happy to see this. On that note Rams piecing together quite a team you know and it's all just been kind of understood that the contract's already figured out like yeah they already know what they're going to pay him he knows what it's going to be because Aaron Donald especially with the amount of money everybody else is getting if he wanted to announce to the other teams hey I'm back sure somebody he'd get another hundred million dollars if he really if he does a couple good sled drills and puts that on the internet I think there would be a team that'd be like yep whatever he wants but instead it's just kind of assumed he loves McVay loves the Rams only going back to do this and they figured out the business part of it all I assume it's going to be incentive laden I would assume for Aaron Donald but nonetheless it just feels like it's going to happen yeah what was his contract when he retired was it completely run out did he have a year left like i wonder if there was some sort of one-year buffer because i know going into his last year there was already a conversation like hey aaron donald might call it so if it was a one-year deal do they just run that back fully guaranteed 20 million bucks or i wonder what his rate will be when he comes back because like you said it is done this is happening they're gonna have aaron donald and miles garrett on the same d line so i mean if you are in the nfc west i couldn't imagine being an offensive lineman just thinking about this every week.

1:41:45Pat McAfee:Yeah, well, you know, you got to check 96. You got to check 99. Then they got who else in that D-line as well? Fisk, Young, Colby Turner. 94. It kind of goes back to an earlier conversation or the earlier clip we played with Michael Parsons and him talking about his football intellect, the IQ of basically setting up the slides knowing where they are and that's the issue you're going to have every game, every week when you're facing this Rams team. Do we slide? Dewey double 99. Dewey slide. Dewey double 95. Somebody's going to get a one-on-one. Zero, young. He's been a dog. Fisk as well. So you're going to have to move around, and then that frees up other guys as well, or it keeps guys into the pass protection as opposed to getting five out for defense.

1:42:28So that helps the back end tremendously, man. But these guys are absolute monsters, man. This dude is legit in an argument for greatest defensive player of all time. Now, he has been away from the game for, what, two complete years or three seasons? Two. Okay, two full seasons. So, yes, he is a freak. He is a mutant. But, you know, until we see him on the field in pads playing football, you know, that's when obviously it'll be done done. Best sports book in existence?

1:42:54Pat McAfee:No. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I can say that. That's an above IQ thing. Yeah. You're IQ'd up right now. I do think I'm above IQ'd up. I think that is what I'm doing. Fourth best odds to win comeback player of the year. Guys not signed to a team. Boom. Okay. So just know that that's happening. Now, we do have an AP voter who is not allowed to say anything about his votes publicly. But what are you kind of giving a snarl about? Why would he not be a comeback player? Because this has changed. Yes. Now it's about overcoming stuff. And we had the Joe Flacco situation where he overcame taking his kids to school.

1:43:31Aaron just retired.

1:43:33Pat McAfee:Overcoming retirement is pretty big. Yeah. That was when he beat DeMar Hamlin and overcame death? Was that that year? That's why Flacco overcame taking his kids to school, yeah. This is the Flacco retirement comeback player rule, basically. So I was confused by the odds. What do we like here? But I guess we'll just have to have it. Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. I like Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones. When did Mahomes tear his ACL? October. I was thinking later now. Yeah, I was going to say. It felt like he shouldn't be eligible for that. He played damn near the whole season. But he's coming back from a – He's coming back from this.

1:44:07Yeah, but no one expects him to not be good, I don't think. And if you do, I think you're a bit of a fucking wacko. Same with Jaden Daniels. He played seven games last year.

1:44:17Pat McAfee:Week 15 is when Patrick Mahomes got hurt. That's crazy. He come back. He is coming back. I don't like it. When he got hurt, they were already kind of shite. Oh, yeah, they were. They were shite all year. Whoa. They were. They would say the same thing. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs, though. I think we all need to understand that the Chiefs is still the Chiefs. Okay? And I'd like that to be remembered. They got a new stadium coming to a new state. They got the AFC finalists in their division. Denver Broncos are for real, brother. Who knows what the Chargers are going to be? I mean, and how about the Raiders?

1:44:52I think some of us know who the Chargers are going to be.

1:44:58Pat McAfee:What's that? I don't know. Smooching. Listen, Justin Herbert's in love. Justin Beer Herbert. Yeah. Get it right. Justin Herbert. Get it right. All right. Whatever they do. Whatever the name is. You name it. Her beer. Good old word saying. Beer Bert. Whatever the name is. Combination. Okay. Whatever. They're in love. And I'm happy for them. I respect that. There's a lot of people saying they're pumped that Justin Herbert's even showing up to practice at all. With how much love he is in. Okay. Sure. So it's like Joey Burrow. Did you see what happened with him? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Same deal. Same type of sit down situation.

1:45:31Copycat league. He's won a playoff game. Got to the Super Bowl.

1:45:35Pat McAfee:Okay, that is a Miami Dolphins defender back there who obviously drafted Tua Tonga-Valola, who is now a member of the Atlanta Falcons, over Justin Herbert, who is still a member of the Los Angeles Chargers. But nonetheless, you don't have to hold that regret against him because of the Tua Herbert thing. I like how happy Herbert is. Both haven't won a playoff game. No doubt. I actually do, too, and I appreciate love. Church and state, brother. This is a National Football League, okay? Why don't we separate the two? Why don't you go out there, get your job done, and go smooch at home on the couch.

1:46:06There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. Trying to get me to get home. These are conjugal visits. Set the standard. These are conjugal visits. That's fine. That's how I come from you. Yeah, just got married. Exactly. That's what I said. I love love. Church and state. You don't see me bringing my wife in here smooching her after the show. After the show, do you? Do you? You should. You don't see me doing that, all right? Bringing the old ball and chain around here, showing her everything, and spooks are sitting on the basketball court while you guys are still working in the other room.

1:46:36The other guys aren't working. You don't know that? There might have been plenty of extra reps on that field after.

1:46:41Pat McAfee:There were certainly some jugs machine, maybe some pass sets, but this is post-practice. Justin Herbert's about to go back out there and get his extra mental reps and physical reps. Just needs to say hello to the love of his life. And I don't like how much everybody's judging him. Josh Allen yesterday said, you know, after having a daughter, make me a little bit softer, you know? And a lot of people said, oh, that's great. That's good for football. These guys can't live an actual life. How come everybody wants to know everything about these guys? Then once they know everything about these guys, they say, I don't want to know everything about these guys.

1:47:07What else did Josh say? I haven't seen my family because I'm so damn locked in. That's how you know the difference. Right there.

1:47:14Pat McAfee:Well, it's family now. You saw everybody else's family. Was it just the beer birds? After practice? After practice? That's a good day. Yeah, right. It is. What's that? The beer birds? Is that what you call it? Yep. I don't really like that you guys make me do that either. I saw it online. I didn't start it. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I'm not getting into that. We brought it up a couple days ago. I'm not getting into that. A Steelers fan in the back said, you don't see that happening in Pittsburgh, obviously. That's right. Singing a lot of phrases, but obviously it's focused lockdown on football.

1:47:46Pat McAfee:That's what everybody's trying to do right now, win a damn Super Bowl. George Kittle seemingly going to be back whenever they say he's going to be back. We saw him all offseason having a good time, looked healthy. You know, so any conversation about him delaying anything didn't feel real ever. George Kittle is a physical specimen, an absolute freak, a unicorn, an alien with a wild work ethic. We assume he'll be back expected to dominate as soon as he gets back on the field. AJ, is that not accurate? Yes, I absolutely expect him to dominate. If you remember, he came to our set at the Super Bowl.

1:48:16He was riding in the little wheelie, the little wheelie chair like you get at Walmart if you broke your leg or something. Or you're an old lady and you roll around. He seemed to be in great spirits and felt like he was on track to get back out of this year.

1:48:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, it's a fatso and affair. That's a big time type situation. Do you have to weigh in before you get one of those? Do they make you weigh in? You've got to be over 500. Yeah, I don't think there's an actual scale, but there's a lot of you got it, we get it. A lot of that. George Kittle, though, was on one of those. And then obviously he's gone to work. He was on crutches, I do believe, when Mac Jones broke that ice shot glass off the gong in the background. So we've seen him kind of recover. He's enjoyed his life through recovery, but this guy's a psycho. He built an entire performance facility at his house.

1:48:58Pat McAfee:He is all in, all ball. Hopefully he doesn't get got by that substation out there. You know, because that thing is getting everybody. It's waiting. It's been keeping eyes on George, too. I don't like it. Yeah, substation is dropping a little emoji. Don't look like it. It's a heartbreaker, too. It's going to wait. It's going to take its sweet time. Well, it seems like it does have multiple different varieties of taking you out. It goes slow, and then it would actually pop up on your first day as well. And there's joint practice happening out there now, so we'll see how others respond to the substation immediately.

1:49:29Pat McAfee:And is it substation? Substation says absolutely not, but it does seem like the numbers would indicate as such. Let's talk about some numbers. We're seeing some at ESPN Cleveland numbers and making us go, that feels like that's a better quarterback than that quarterback. Todd Monk and head coach of the Cleveland Browns said, You don't need to be tying me up in all that type of bullshit. And his post-practice pressure yesterday. I don't know if I understood you. But Mary Kay asked if they're even Steven. And then you mentioned that Deshaun's gotten better. Hold on. What was that? So that's what I'm asking.

1:50:00I said Deshaun's better? Were you saying that he's gotten better since camp or that he's better than Shadour? I don't think I threw in there that he's better than Shadour. I'm not sure I went that far, but I appreciate you trying to trap me in that show. No, I'm not.

1:50:13Pat McAfee:Todd Monk gets given no answers. I love it. Okay. I don't want to hear it. I said that. He said, and then you hear him run through his, I would have never said that. Like in his mind, you hear him saying, trust yourself, Todd. Yeah, right. I'm not doing that at all. Any piece of information that we're getting from the head coach who's making this decision, especially with these two guys, is going to be hyper scrutinized. But he's saying, hey, it's a competition. Let the boys play. Let's see who's the best. AJ, you're in Ohio. How did the dog pound feel about this battle at this particular point?

1:50:40I honestly think a lot of the fans, the people that I know that are diehard Cleveland Browns fans, they're kind of torn. They understand the history and what's going on with Deshaun and all that situation. And they actually love the energy and all the juice that Shador has brought. But they honestly think, hey, whoever gives us a chance to win. I don't think anyone's hanging their hat on either player. But I think there's been positives on both sides for both these guys.

1:51:04Pat McAfee:Here's yesterday's ESPN Cleveland tweet. Three potties for Shador, only two for Deshaun. Who's leading the day? Well, at ESPN Cleveland has been giving us information. Todd Munkin's been saying, uh-uh. You? I'm not telling anybody. Yeah, right. He did say on his first date, he was the one in Baltimore trying to draft Shador. It's like, hey, I was the actual one trying to get you in Baltimore whenever you said, don't draft me. I'll go to Australia or whatever you said. And then he ended up in Cleveland. So Todd said, we're going to have to talk about that at some point. I do believe Todd Monken has been given the ability to play whoever the hell he wants over there, even though Deshaun's been paid$230 million guaranteed from the Cleveland Browns.

1:51:44Pat McAfee:He's potentially back dead. Yeah, I mean, I just love everything we're seeing from Todd Monken right now. I love how he handles the media. He's clear with his messaging, so I would assume he's the same way with the team. And, you know, we got a job where we can be clipped up and things can be taken or a narrative can be made about certain quotes. We saw it earlier. We were talking about, you know, LaFleur and him talking about Jordan Love dissecting defenses and blitzes. So he knows everything he says, especially when you talk about a quarterback battle, is going to be taken, can be given a life of its own.

1:52:11So I like him kind of nipping the bud right there. And that kind of sets the tone with the media, too, and how they're approaching him throughout his tenure as a head coach in Cleveland.

1:52:18Pat McAfee:I wish he would just have a cig in his mouth. Lane Johnson announces this is his final season. Congratulations to him. Incredibly successful career. A little bit of a retirement tour for one of the greatest of all time. I assume he'll be a first ballader. I assume Lane Johnson will be a first ballot Hall of Famer. What a stud. And obviously, you know, Philadelphia has pillars. They're losing them slowly. Okay, Lane Johnson would obviously be the next one to go. Nick Sirianni has a brand new offensive system in there. Vic Fangio is a quote every single time he's at the press conference. He's hilarious.

1:52:49Pat McAfee:So the Philadelphia Eagles are a little bit of a sleeping giant over there because I've heard the Giants are about to have a big-time buzz. The gentle giant, I believe, is about to go. Are the Eagles, Philly Eagle Giants about to kind of sleeping giants go ahead and attack everybody? Maybe the Johns got it done, especially for Lane Johnson one last go. Yeah, I'd also buy low on the eager eagle, just so you have that on your radar as well, like the gentle giant. But, yeah, I mean, it feels like the Eagles still have kind of the lead in that entire division. Like, you just heard Traeger come on here and say, like, hey, look out for Makai Lemon.

1:53:18He's going to be a guy for Philly with Devontae Smith. So I would still lean Eagles easy in the NFC East.

1:53:24Pat McAfee:Patriot Games finals tonight, I believe, on ABC High School Fitness Test. I believe they're fighting for competing for$250 ,000 in scholarships. Back in the day, presidential fitness awards were a huge deal. I think they're trying to bring that back in a global guts, American gladiators, American ninja warrior type way for high school athletes and students across the country. Love that. ESPN Disney broadcasting that. Hope this becomes something special to keep kids fit and active. You know, you used to have to play 60. Now the Patriot Games are giving away some scholarship funds. I hope this continues to grow.

1:53:56Pat McAfee:That's happening tonight. Also, Hard Knocks episode of the night. NFL Films folks are saying the best one they've had in a long time. We can't wait to be back tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change our life. Fucking nailed it. That was good. Let's go. That's top tier. That's the Patriot games out right there. Good work there too, Foxy. Dancing in there. Yes, sir. That was my first time getting eyes on those Patriots games right there. In real time, I almost stopped and said, hold the phone. That looks a lot cooler than I could have ever imagined. Is the mic hosting it?

1:54:27Pat McAfee:The mic should be. He's hosting American Gladiators on prom. Season two. Available soon. Coming. The mic is not a part of this. This is, I believe this is directly with the Sports Fit Council and ESPN Disney. Like Timmy, like Timmy, Tabo, and different people are on that council, right? Oh, two of them. DeChambeau. Yes, I believe. Yeah. Yeah, I do believe. Trips. I think trying to get fitness back into the high school level in a big way is a massive piece. And I like that Disney and ESPN and ABC have all been like, all right, we'll broadcast this, try to make this a thing. This is obviously the first year.

1:55:03Pat McAfee:Hopefully it only continues to grow. We don't have any – we have no idea what's going on over there. Certainly something that we would be interested in, though. For sure. Celebrating athletes, high school athletes, big stage. We've got an obstacle course like this happening. Yeah. Would certainly like to help this continue. I mean, this is why I started donating back to my high school. Wanting kids to stay in sports. You know, there's a lot of things that can get people away from sports these days. Let alone all the technology. I mean, we talked about the e-bikes. So anything that's promoting the next generation to be active, badass dogs, I would like us to be a part of.

1:55:34Pat McAfee:And I think that's kind of what this is going to promote. Especially if they're giving away big prizes, scholarship prizes. Hopefully it will only continue to grow. I think this is the first year. Finals are tonight at 630. I have no idea what's happening, but I cannot wait to see it. Yeah, I mean, could you imagine if when you were in high school, they basically showed up and brought an American Ninja Warrior, you know, start to finish obstacle course, and you just competed against your high school or people around to do it. I mean, it is really cool. I think they're doing victory hoops as well, which is like a three-on-three situation.

1:56:02So it's not even just that. There's like other cool stuff they're doing. And then it's on primetime on Thursday, I believe, is when they'll show it on ABC for like everyone that's not on the ESPN app. Okay, so they're not doing it live tonight. So, no, it's on the ESPN app live, but I believe it'll actually be shown nationwide on cable, everything, on Thursday.

1:56:22Pat McAfee:Okay, so tonight is closing ceremonies on the ESPN app. Yes. And then Thursday it'll be the whole, hey, this is what it is, showcase. Bingo. And I assume whoever wins tonight will probably be able to join the broadcast or whatever on the 13th or however they actually do it. But, yeah, it should be awesome. So I couldn't touch my toes. So the presidential fitness test, that blue box, beat me every single time. Yeah, it's tough. It really did. So it feels like they're having different options. You know, like three-on-three basketball is happening. I think there is also a tug-of-war option. Dodgeball.

1:56:52Pat McAfee:Obstacle course. Yeah, they have all their stuff. Dodgeball? I assume pull-ups and push-ups. It's like if we can make this into a thing, we would like to be a part of making that a thing for high school kids to want to be a part of. Because no matter what sport you play, if you don't play a sport, if you're just one of the super fit, cross-fit type kid, having a chance to do that, win money as a high schooler, especially now with NIL stuff happening. It's like, let's promote that. We would like kids to continue to do that, you know, stay active. They need to. Coach Trestle does that. He's the lieutenant governor of Ohio, and I take part in this called the Team Trestle Fitness Challenge.

1:57:23They go around to a bunch of different elementary schools all over Ohio, and I was able to go to the school where two of my kids go this past year and do it again where you go and give them these booklets and teach them how to work out and do things every single day, and then they come back and they get bronze, silver, or gold medals, depending on how they do.

1:57:39Pat McAfee:Let's go. Well done. Hell yeah. Good for sport, good for fitness, good for you, good for a world. They say big rain coming. Have you seen outside? Oh, yeah. Big rain is in Ohio. It's in Ohio, that's for sure. Yeah, I heard big storms.

1:57:58Pat McAfee:I thought it was done by now. No, I looked outside. It's pitch black outside. Check hourly. Find your basement. Least amount of windows. That's where you need to be. There are safe zones in everybody's house. Unless there isn't. Get in the bathtub and put a mattress over top. I know it's safe in cars here. Is it safe? I feel like we're in a very safe place, actually. I do. I think so. Just because of the dome. We got a basement? A lot of brick. There is actually, when we purchased this place, we found out that there is a storm shelter? No, it's like a crypt, kind of. Yeah, like tombs down there.

1:58:36That's where Bill lives? Whoa. Like the Vatican.

1:58:38Pat McAfee:That's where he eats. What's that? So that's where he eats. I didn't know that. I didn't really think about the place as much as it seems like you guys have. So that place down there that's kind of creepy and crawly, that's where Bailey was? There's good people down there, yeah. Bill Fiesel. People used to run the church, probably. We should keep our eyes on this. Bill's going down there. I didn't know that. I thought we had that thing locked. Isn't that why his room is right there? It's a door directly to where he eats and has people? You know, you can't connect the dots looking forward, but you can certainly do that looking back.

1:59:10Pat McAfee:It feels like he picked that place, didn't he? He did. Why was the jaws of life here? Good question. I fought with you, Bill. Me too, Bill. Me too, Bill. What did you guys do? Nah, that's my dog. You fucked with Bill? Yeah. He's the long way. I thought you said fought with. The long way? To America. The long walk. you and Bill fuck with each other a long way bad boys for life it was on this weekend good movie be a friend tell a friend what which one both Patriot games Patriot let's take a break on the other side oh yeah that's what I thought I was about to say let's take a break on the other side we got president of the UFC yeah what are you talking about no I just fuck audible yeah cause I thought we were gonna go see Bill yeah yeah yeah and then we remember we have a chance to chit chat with the president and CEO of UFC.

2:00:06Yeah.

2:00:07Pat McAfee:Cannot wait to do that, actually. Yeah. Every convo with him is electrifying. Yes. All right, Dana White's on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. Take fighting! Fight!

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2:01:34Pat McAfee:Hello beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode the DraftKings Thunderdome on this storm. The Patriots game Tuesday, August 11, 2026. Hour 3 of the program begins now. Football! It is happening. That was one of our worst that we've ever done but it's because the storm outside is obviously getting very loud. There's some thunder. Thunder. Lightning and the thunder. Thunder. That's A.J. Hawk. He brought the thunder. The thunder. Left hand. Lightning and the thunder. Thunder. We appreciate that, A.J. Talks at tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Damn.

2:02:15Pat McAfee:Cowboys AP Tonus here. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Yes, sir. D-Butt, it looks bad outside right now. Yeah, it's pitch black. Different storms than we get in South Florida, but they say fire. Yeah, it's a little windy. None of the TVs are working, so if you are able to watch us still, We are very pumped up about that. Shout out to our generator. Yeah, shout out. Bring it. Shouldn't do that too loud. These things are known to fail, you know, and right now they are operating efficiently, so we appreciate that. We hope you all are safe, and we are joined now, ladies and gentlemen, by an absolute legend, a man who's an American dream story, a man whose name is synonymous with combat sport, a man who will say whatever the hell he feels, whenever the hell he feels, because he's earned that right to be able to do as such, the CEO and the president of UFC, A man who founded the Contender Series, which has another episode tonight at 7 p.m.

2:03:04Pat McAfee:on Paramount+. A man who started the Numbers Series UFC 330 this weekend back in Philadelphia with Islam headlining the card. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana White. How you doing, man? What's up, buddy? How are you? Good. What the hell's on your chest? What are we going to do?

2:03:25Pat McAfee:What does that say? What is that? A tactical? Delta. Come on, man. Delta Force? Oh, dogs. Absolute dogs, the Delta. I actually learned about the entire Delta Force a little bit more at Connor's wedding because there was an Army Ranger that was at the wedding. And the way he talked about the Delta folks, he's like, these fucking guys. Absolutely. Glad they're on our side. Definitely. Very glad that they are on our side. Just like you, pal. A huge weekend back in Philadelphia, back in Pennsylvania. Obviously, whenever you made this announcement, the governor came on our show to, you know, kind of proclaim his excitement.

2:04:03Pat McAfee:Can you tell me, as we're just days away from getting back to Philly and what your expectations are of the weekend? Yeah, well, I'm excited to get back to Philly. I've been there in a long time, so I'm actually flying there tomorrow. And Islam Makachev, if he wins this fight, he breaks Anderson Silva's record for most title defenses. and obviously, you know, as tough as he is, Ian Gary is tough to take down, great striking. If he can stay standing, he's going to give Islam a hell of a knife. When you're putting these cards together, you know, it's Philadelphia. Those Johns are a little bit more rambunctious.

2:04:40Pat McAfee:Do you think about that with the style of fights for the Philadelphia people or how do you kind of piece these cards together at this stage of your career? I love Philly fans. You know, I'm a Celtics fan, So every time I go to Philly for Celtics games, they're the best, always talking shit to me the whole time I'm there. When I come walking in wearing my Celtics stuff, they're like, you got some balls wearing that here. UFC sucks. They're selling shit at me the entire game. I love it. Yeah, Philly people are the best. And now that they have LeBron, I mean, they're only going to get louder and stronger, I would assume.

2:05:10Pat McAfee:So this weekend should be a spectacular environment. AJ has a question for you, Dana. Yeah, Dana, if Islam is able to get a victory here over Garrett, I guess where do you think this puts Islam? I'm sure you've heard this before in the whole goat conversation, all of that. Where do you place him, I guess, and the annals of all the greats that have come through the UFC? Yeah, no, he's definitely in it. What I love about Islam is he just keeps his head down, keeps fighting, keeps winning. And, you know, when he keeps doing what he does, this whole goat thing is going to play out on its own as, you know, right up until he retires.

2:05:44But he's definitely in the conversation. You know, he's the pound for pound best fighter in the world. and one of the all-time greats and possibly GOAT.

2:05:53Pat McAfee:Okay, I like that. And anytime you say anything, people are going to get worked up about it, especially when you talk about your favorites. Yeah. Whenever you talk about your favorites, whether or not it's a good style or not a good style, I think what you do is create a spectacle. I think you take a lot of pride in that. Obviously, you had Mexican Independence Day at the Sphere, which was spectacular. You had 250th celebration at the White House. Outrageous. I mean, a storm split around the White House for you. And on that note, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Dana, in both those instances, people immediately were like, oh, Dana, this was incredible.

2:06:22You've got to do this again. And you were basically like, fuck that. This was so expensive. It took forever. With that in mind, though, is there anything like that that you guys are kind of throwing around right now, like another massive event like that? Or is that one of those kind of things where inspiration will strike and you'll kind of just decide to do it? Because obviously, anytime you guys do commit to something like that, regardless of how expensive it might be, it always delivers. Thank you. And yeah, I mean, there will never be anything like the White House ever again. I mean, that night, we already had high expectations for it, and I was blown away.

2:07:00It's the greatest thing that I've ever been a part of. Being there live was amazing. but now my head of production Craig Borsari is so cocky after he absolutely killed that event we are talking about something right now that he came up with this was his idea and I love it I have to do some more groundwork on it and if if I end up doing this I'll announce it here first

2:07:27Pat McAfee:we appreciate the opportunity thank you for that so cool you guys are going to the moon you guys are gonna go fight people on the moon that's awesome dana we're wondering who's gonna be the first promoter to get up there you being a moon fight would certainly be expected at this stage of everything i can't wait to hear what your head of production does and also i like the way your head of production has to operate because you're not scared to go right up there graphics were wrong lights were shit this was this production's got to get it together i appreciate because you know we got foxy back there foxy's starting to get a little bit you know big on his britches as well so i like the way you operate dana the way your hands on with everything your company seemingly continuing to grow bigger and bigger go ahead connor yeah dana talking about zoo for boxing how has that been going especially as you kind of balance the other ufc events and playing in other massive events has that been a you know tough thing to deal with as well alongside the ufc or has that kind of been awesome being able to do that as well yeah it's been fun for me actually you know i i had always dreaded the idea of getting into boxing because i always felt like it was so broken and dirty and everything else but it's actually been really fun i've been having a good time with those in ireland last weekend we had a blast and then now mexican independence day you know we have connor ben versus ryan garcia in vegas tickets are almost sold out so it's going to be a big fight and uh i'm really excited about that one tell me about the boxing road because obviously you get massive names a couple different cards you guys have been traveling the globe with this how do you feel about getting back into the boxing road i know you started, I think, in the boxing world.

2:08:56Pat McAfee:Then obviously UFC kind of changes, getting back into the grind and the grime of the boxing world. How has it been? Garcia, Ben's a huge, huge main event, obviously, as you continue to build. Great. I've actually, like I said, I've loved it. I've had a good time with it. And, you know, the fact that we pulled this fight together and got it in Vegas, Independence Day weekend. So that day, I have UFC Noche in Arizona. So I'll be in Arizona. Then I'll fly straight from there to Vegas for the Garcia-Benz fight. So I'll have two fights that day. Are you doing slap fest on the plane or what are you doing?

2:09:34Oh, yes. No, we're going to give slap a break on that weekend. Two fights on the same day is enough for me. I'll tell you what, you can get two main events

2:09:44Pat McAfee:in the middle of the plane, I assume, at this stage of TKO and UFC. You can line up two of those things. Starlink, too, with the web? On top of the plane, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Go ahead. Have you been on a plane with Starlink? Dana, I won't get on a plane without Starlink. Not that you don't need any more money or anything like that, but holy shit, right? Yeah, it's the greatest. It is. It's incredible. Yeah, so we got super geniuses, obviously, on Earth with us right now. And one of them not only created Starlink and everything else, maybe getting us to the moon, yada, yada, yada. Another one created a website that was supposed to be Hot or Not.

2:10:15Pat McAfee:And then everybody signed up for it. And now he's a massive fight fan and combat sports fan. Go ahead, Dana. Yeah, talk about Zuck. Mark Zuckerberg, I know you collabed with Meta, and you talked about how it was going to bring and change the fan experience. How is that Meta apex out there, the arena out there in Vegas, and what do we have coming next for fans? Congratulations on this, by the way. Yeah, thanks. We literally did a big unveiling yesterday for the media, and then today is the Contender Series, so it's going to be my first live event at the new Apex, and it's incredible. I'm looking forward to it.

2:10:48We had one on Saturday when I was in Ireland, and even my most jaded employees. Sean Shelby, who is actually Tom Brady's cousin, is one of our matchmakers. And this guy, to try to make this guy happy or make him smile was almost impossible. He loved it the other night, said the experience was incredible, so I'm looking forward to it tonight on the Contender Series on Paramount+.

2:11:10Pat McAfee:I love, oh, here we go again, Sean Shelby. Okay, I like that that guy exists. You know, we have those guys in every business that have experienced the highs of highs and all they're worried about is not having the lowest of lows. The Apex obviously came to be during COVID. It was one of the things that you thought of to keep the fights rolling. You also got an island, obviously, in the Middle East to continue to fight island. And then the Apex became a completely different fight experience for me as a casual watching. I could hear the corner. I could hear the shots, the smacks. Then obviously, whenever you do that a few hundred times, everybody kind of gets sick of it.

2:11:47Pat McAfee:But you thought the intimate environment adds some fans. We get the best of both worlds. Or how are you kind of, how do you land on this Apex becoming a full-blown venue at this point for things? Yeah, so originally what happened was I was going to use the Apex to program UFC Fight Pass. And just 24-7 fights happening in basically this studio. And then we were putting the last screw in the building. COVID hit. So, you know, it ended up we decided to make it an arena. And now it is a legit arena here in Las Vegas. You know, when you think of T-Mobile, Allegiant, all these others, this is one of the most technologically advanced and beautiful arenas in the state of Nevada now.

2:12:30So we'll be doing more than just UFC fights. You know, there'll be comedy shows there, concerts. And, you know, when you think about all these big conventions that come into Vegas and they want to do something on the strip and they need audio visual. There's nothing on the strip that can compare to the meta apex. So it's going to become a real arena here in Nevada now.

2:12:51Pat McAfee:Everything from fights to concerts. There's a new arena in town. And this is it. This place can do anything. We can host fights, comedy shows, concerts. We're capable of handling anything that comes our way. Does Sean Shelby know that? You guys are going to be hosting a lot of different shit because the audio for those concerts, Sean's going to have to be fucking wiring that thing up. I mean, that's going to be a whole different animal. I don't think Sean gives a shit about much, but he actually likes the new Meta Apex. That I can tell you. That's awesome. Well, I appreciate the hell out of you.

2:13:23Pat McAfee:Good luck with UFC 330 this weekend. Good luck with the Contender Series tonight at 7. Good luck with the Apex, obviously becoming a new venue alongside Meta. And I can't wait for the slap fest in the private plane from Noche all the way up to the Zufa Boxing in Vegas. You're the man, Dana. Keep going, brother. Love you, boys. Thanks for everything. Hey, Patriot Games, you know anything about this? We're just not learning about this. It seems sweet. What? Did you know the Patriot Games? Patriot Games? Oh, fuck. You don't know about them either. We just learned about this. It's on ESPN, I guess.

2:13:54Pat McAfee:It's on our platform. The government putting this together, the fitness group, I believe, the council, the sports council. They're high school kids attempting to win$250 ,000 in scholarships and like the old school fitness test type stuff. It's called the Patriot Games. I think it's the first year. They're trying to make it big, Dana. Going to need your brain on this. So fucking come on. It's brilliant. I love it. That's a great idea. Love it. I think so, too. American Ninja Warrior. A little global guts in this thing. Get the high school kids active. Something to shoot for and win some money.

2:14:23Pat McAfee:This first year, we need you thinking about this, Dana. Maybe do it out there. I'm in. Let me know what you need. I'm in. Boom. Okay, sick. Because I'm selling to do it going forward. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, that is president and CEO of UFC, Dana White. Dana White. Actually, I think that Patriot Games thing is sick. He didn't even know about it. No, he didn't. No idea. We didn't even know about it. No. I don't like that. Who's that on? Gumpy. Yep. Well, actually. I mean, none of us are in high school. Yeah. So would you give a shit about it if you didn't? I guess our algo not bringing it up.

2:15:00Pat McAfee:Right. Bingo. It's a good thing. Better sign. None of us are Ninja Wars. That's a good point. Not yet. None of us are ninja wars. But there's a chance that Mackenzie or Midas could potentially be young, little American patriot wars. There's a lot of ninja programs around here that I'm not shitting around. Everywhere? Yes. Really? Tons. Mackenzie's going to be moving those pegs. All the gyms. Yeah, ninja board training. You ever see those guys do the pull-ups? It's ridiculous. They are so strong. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, their legs, we don't have to talk about it, but, you know, they do have incredible rock climbing bodies.

2:15:37Pat McAfee:yeah functional yeah functional very functional like harold yeah little finger tippies yeah jeez louise strong strong strength these things right here they can really get going the peg thing

2:15:52Pat McAfee:yeah so hard just staying like this dude it's like wow your core is outrageous yeah and what about your arms oh your shoulders too fingies how your fingies i don't know they're Like, don't worry about it. If we need to hang on to something to save society, we've fucking got it. That's a good skill. Need those. Tony, let me know next time you go to one of those ninja places. Okay. Are you going to go? Pretty soon. Oh, yeah. I want to go to the – I'm not going personally. I tried. He bought a cruise through that. It's more for kids. No, I tried. I would like to do the – I want to try that thing.

2:16:27Sure. I want to do the Eliminator at American Gladiators. That's the final situation. My Fuki Dory? No, I'm thinking there needs to be an aggro crag.

2:16:36Pat McAfee:in this? Yeah. That's from Global Guts. Correct. The American Gladiators does have Mount Fuji? Madurayama. That's something new. Okay, that's what we need as well. What's that, AJ? What's the Mount Fuji War? What is that from? What show is that? You'll never get it, it feels like. I think they're just making shit up. No, no. That's American Ninja Warrior. I've never heard the mic talk about that on American Ninja Warrior. That's not Ninja Warrior. You've heard Kabir Bajah Piamila talk about that. No, Akbar. Former teammate. Akbar, Baha, Baha, Mia, and Sean. Matt Eisman's the best warrior ninja they have.

2:17:15You ever seen him go through that in his suit? Yes. He's impressive. Unbelievable. He's a hell of a warrior ninja, isn't he?

2:17:20Pat McAfee:Yes, he is. He's awesome. He's maybe one of my best warrior ninjas that I could think of. Chris Farley, number two. One of the goats, no doubt about it. What's going on? I just saw a couple fire engines and a police car going this way with their lights on, So I wonder if like a big tree branch or something fell on somebody's house. All hell is really broken in the Louis outside. Yeah. Feels like Mother Nature says, how about you guys experience a little bit of hell? Yeah. I can see the road though, so it looks like it calmed down. Yeah, they're still driving. They said wind blew over a car in Ohio.

2:17:48Columbus, yeah.

2:17:49Pat McAfee:Yeah. It's crazy. This is what we need at the end of the Patriot Games. This right here. This aggro crab. Yeah. That goat. If a high schooler wants to win$100 ,000 in scholarships, they're going to have to get through. What the fuck is that? It's the aggro crack, dude. That's the final bomb. But I don't know much about this either. You don't know Mike O'Malley and Moe? Send it over to Moe for the results. Moe! What? I don't know. That didn't make it into my algorithm. The number one show on Nickelodeon growing up. Global got 20 years. Mark Summers had the number one show on Nickelodeon. Who doubled there?

2:18:27Doubled there was a good show. Literally right back. They were back-to-back.

2:18:30Pat McAfee:I can't believe you. Do you know anything about the Barracudas? Fuck the Legends of the Hidden Temple? Yeah. I do not. Interesting. You're crazy, man. Wow. He is crazy. Yeah. What did you watch? Did you watch anything? Salute your shorts. I watched that. Oh, Camp Arnalana, dude. Same network. Same time frame. Yeah, dude. I'm confused. I didn't put my VHS in and try to record it. Did you watch Wild Rats? Hell yeah. No, I never really saw many animated things. That's animated, right? Tommy Pickles? Come on. Yeah. What about Super Mario? I saw Doug. Doug is the one cartoonist. You don't know anything about this guy?

2:19:06Doug was awesome. I only know it through you guys. You guys years ago got mad at me not knowing what the aggro crack is. That's Olmec, dude. Olmec, there is Mac there.

2:19:16Pat McAfee:Yeah, there it is. That's both sides, yeah. I knew the name. You will have to figure out how. We have Bailey McComas running a Ninja Warrior course here in Indianapolis. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd like to see this. Yes. Bill's been doing two-a-days to try to get ripped up and yoked up for the last couple of years. I think it has worked. Hi, my name is Bailey McCombs. I'm from Bob and Tom Show. This is American Ninja Warrior Tryout. Okay, Bill. Good luck out there, man. Thank you, guys. They used to call me Big Motor. I should be able to do pretty good. Good luck, Bailey. Represent us well.

2:19:51Pat McAfee:You got it. Does he go? Thanks for trimming the video. Yeah, does he do this at all? That ain't Bill. Ladies and gentlemen, representing Bob and Tom Show. and Morty's comedy, Mexican food place. From Ball State, Bayley McCombs. Oh, that's a tough style. I hate that. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, cracking. Oh, no. Get up there, man. You got to use some medic energy. Yeah. This guy's big motor. They're taking him out of his game. He needs to be striding, not leaping. He hangs on, though. Can he hear the body do it? Got the wind knocked out of his head. Oh, no. I bet if he did it now, he'd do much better.

2:20:31Definitely. That's a tough course.

2:20:33Pat McAfee:They've set that up tough. That was for the actual show, I believe. So actual ninjas were doing that. They asked local people if they wanted to come by. I think at that time, Bailey was working for the Bob and Tom show. So the Bob and Tom show was obviously offered up spots, and they said, fucking send it. I thought he waited in line all night long. Those pads aren't very soft either. That's like grip tape, like skateboard grip tape. It's supposed to rip you up real good. Chop me up real good. Chopped me up real good, he said. And on that day, he decided he was going to get in shape. And now we have Bailey McComas, who's known as Bill, who you can find at your 24-hour gym.

2:21:08Pat McAfee:Yeah. If he happens to be in your town. Because he's hitting it. And he's eating straight meat to mouth. Whoa. That's crazy. Protein, man. That's all this guy's got time for. He don't want to look like this again. My stomach. My stomach. It's sandpaper. It's sandpaper. He fucking kills. Find his wind. That thing won. But Bill, Bill will see round two with this thing. That's right. He should.

2:21:46Yeah.

2:21:47Pat McAfee:I've never seen Todd Moore right there. 40 degrees that day. So cold. I think it was middle of the morning, too. Like 4 a.m., 5 a.m., maybe 6 a.m. Yep. Yeah, they offered it up to us, I believe, at this time. I thought so, too. But he didn't qualify? Yeah, he was up there. They put him up on there for a couple seconds on the keyboard. And then I think Living Indy came in, and they got past that first sandpaper part. Big Joe Snazy act fucking zipped right through it. No, you know who it was? Who? You know who. This is our Colts. Oh. The Flo. Seth? The Flo, yeah. The Flo. I believe record-setting time yeah and there's everybody out there we weren't able to make cuz I was coming back from a knee injury I believe mm-hmm I was hurt yeah he sent us time like 2 30 a.m.

2:22:34Pat McAfee:or something could do that on like a Thursday yeah let me do flows been bringing it since then I was famous yeah he still is got a new haircut excited for him side for the cold season especially after we just beat the ass in a patch today yeah joint practices I didn't happen but yeah sauce didn't like you guys posting that no I saw a tweet from someone. All this from a one-on-one. Little hitch route. Boom! Eight-yard catch. Fucked up. Tagged him. Boom. Tackled. Third and twelve. We're off the field. Yeah. Exactly. Who knows where the sticks were? Sauce does. Duh. He does. He made tackle. And then guess what happened the rest of the day?

2:23:09Pat McAfee:Strap. That's what he said. He said. All this from a one-on-one rep and an eight-yard sit route at that? That's the reason that's the only one y 'all saw. That was the only one there was reportedly. But I bet what he's saying is something else. Yeah, what he's saying is... Yeah, where's your seatbelt? Afterwards, that's what he said. He found it. He went like this with it.

2:23:36Pat McAfee:So he could breathe a little bit. Yeah, sure. But he's still got it. Still strapped. Yeah, still strapped around there. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And he said the only reason we saw one is because our social team doesn't fucking do this. What is the deal? Colts win the day, they say. Don't see anything. Didn't see a goddamn thing. They had to have posted something by now, right? Seven on seven. Might be putting more turmeric in that cup or whatever they were doing. It's turmeric, man. We got a video. We got a video from the Colts. Oh, dominate. And, yeah. Josh Towns is open. And, yeah. Rolling out in seven on seven.

2:24:10Pat McAfee:Okay. Look, nobody's near him. The route he just ran. Here we go. Route's on air. We got it. Oh, it is. No, nobody. Okay, that's it. That's seven on. They're playing one. Look, he's right there. Rolling out in seven on seven. If there's two QBs thrown at the same time, I'm guessing there's not a defense out there. No, yeah, they're getting efficient working. That defense right there. Did you see that ball? Oh, my God. I like how DJ's slinging it. What are the odds for Colts winning a Super Bowl, please, right now? They just went up. TBR, plus 12 ,000. Hmm? No, that's not what they're asking. 6 ,000, excuse me.

2:24:48Yeah, that's what they were at. So now they're plus 200 now. What? Yeah.

2:24:54Pat McAfee:After practice, plus 200 is what it jumped to. You might be looking at the wrong one, I think. No. They show the practice. Odds and lines are subject to change. We do not know if Tones look at the right thing. This graphic says it's still plus 6 ,000 for the Colts to win. Okay, yeah, we'll trust that over me. What's the over-under? What's the over-under for the Colts wins this year? It just jumped to 13 and a half. That doesn't sound right. Is that on? After the practice, I'm telling you, they are Super Bowl favorites and 13.5 is the overall. Oh, it's a line subject to change. The graphics is 7.5, though, on DraftKings, best sportsbook on earth.

2:25:26When was this made, before or after practice?

2:25:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, you're right. Who knows if DraftKings is going to have to adjust after what we're seeing right there. Dolphins, 3.5? Cardinals. Tough schedule for the Finns this year. Browns, 5.5. Jets, 5.5, and that might go down after today's joint practice. Yeah. Good luck to the Rams. 11 and a half. That's a lot of games. That's high expectations. Seattle Seahawks are in your division. Got them twice. They're going to win 10 and a half games. Well, how are the Rams going to win 11 and a half then? Niners. Nine and a half. That's under 10. I believe they play the AFC West as well. I could be wrong. How about the Pittsburgh Steelers?

2:26:05Pat McAfee:Eight and a half. That would be a little bit. That's, you know, par for the course. Actually, that would be actual par. Yeah. tough schedule I believe like that that would be a par score eight and a half out of 17 games mm-hmm yep right on the money because maybe one under if you yeah if you go seven seven you get a plus 110 have more wins the Vikings lock that one in Kyle Murray not says started it sounds like he's bashing him a little bit let's get the hell out of here that's Patriot games tonight live on espn super duper yes right yes super duper thursday you can connect that to your youtube tv now i believe so good if i can drop it in my ford box i'll be very grateful yeah not sure how it works but i think it's going to be a pretty packed house tonight the patriot games my understanding where's that the queue i don't know where it is actually uh spire academy i think i assume they are drug testing.

2:27:09Shouldn't. I don't know. Can't drug test kids.

2:27:12Pat McAfee:Definitely can. Don't you drug test kids? I mean, isn't that something that happens to high school? High school kids don't get tested, do they? Oh, no. We did so many steroids. Is that legal? I watched that documentary, Benny and the Roids. Do you remember that? Yeah, that was to not do it, but it had the opposite effect. No, it did not. Like the dip presentation? Yes. Bingo. The dip presentation at Plum High School created the Copenheathens, which was a band. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, and that's just how our school reacted. But I would like our school and other schools to have the opportunity to compete in these Patriot Games.

2:27:48Pat McAfee:This could be something very good for athletic people, especially if you just have a unique talent of being able to do a shit ton of push-ups. I think you should be able to benefit. I think we should be showcasing that. I'm excited for it. I don't know what it is currently, but I'm excited for whatever it becomes, because it looks like everybody's kind of investing in it. I know ESPN, Disney, and ABC are, for sure. So hopefully it continues to grow. Benny and the Roids just pulled that up. That was a trip down memory lane right there. Yeah, that was a good pull. Did you watch this in high school?

2:28:15Pat McAfee:You remember Benny? Was this Ben Affleck, like after-school special thing? No, I don't think Ben Affleck was a part of this. Benny was just the name of the guy. Ben Affleck was a part of a great after-school special about juice, and he got really upset, and he got all juiced out, and he started blasting his shoulder on the ground. I remember watching it. It is a thing, but you guys are probably too young. Is this what this is, then? Because this was – I don't know. Maybe. I don't remember it being Ben Affleck. Older people around my age know the Ben Affleck one. Well, you know, Benny and the Jets is obviously very well known from back in the day.

2:28:44Pat McAfee:You know Benny and the Jets? Nah, I just remember. The only thing I remember about Royce as a young kid is like Major Ball Small. Yeah. Steve Gans was Benny Zimmer, not Ben Affleck. Okay. Yeah, Major Ball Small. That was the word on the street. High-pitched voice. Yeah. You know what? Worked for me. Yeah. I'm going to stay away from that. Bunny in the Royce. Was that Ben Affleck? No. It was just Steve Hands. Imagine if they started a rumor that said it made your dong bigger. How many kids would have been? Oh, fuck. A lot of them. Listen. 100%. So many. Yeah, but they did the right thing going the other way.

2:29:23Pat McAfee:You want tiny little balls and beans? Do this. That could be a lie. It's not a bad idea. Yeah, Jesus. It's a good move. You have to test it. Great. Hey, listen. We can't tell these kids that it's definitely going to kill them. Everybody that's done this stuff ends up in a bad spot. They won't listen. They don't care. They don't think they can die. They're too young. What do these kids care about? They don't want to have a tiny little dick. Small dick. Get a small dick. You better not do this. Tell them they're going to get mocked and rape killed by everybody for the rest of their lives. All right.

2:29:54Pat McAfee:Fucking run it. Send it. That went viral before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because we all heard the same thing. High-pitched voice, you're going to sound like a little girl. and you're going to have a tiny, tiny little dick and small balls. That's what happens to you if you do this. You sure you want to do it? That kept us away. It did. It really – what a great – true, I guess, I don't know, modern science for adults, not for these young kids, you know, obviously. What a time to be alive. Lucky to be here. This is Benny getting under it on the bench. And what happened was he was publicly really cool because he couldn't move it as many times as his friends.

2:30:30It was a shwer ball. Yeah, but then he did.

2:30:33Pat McAfee:It looks like Schrago, you mean. He did 225 25 times. At the end of the movie. Beginning of the movie, it was only two times. He was getting mocked and ridiculed. He got pissed off. He was the coolest kid in school. That really benefited him in that movie. No, but then he got super angry, obviously. You remember that. You missed that whole part. Yeah, but he got a D1 scholarship. To Duquesne? I think he got taken away because he broke some lock. I think you missed the end. Fucking Latimer. You missed the end of the movie. Place at the table. I might have to go to the bathroom or something. There was a massive crash at the end.

2:31:03Pat McAfee:That's where they were like, little dong, and the whole thing. I didn't see that. That's where they got you. I like that you selective listen to that entire thing. And look where it got you now. Jacked. B-b-b-b-b-bany in the roids. Shouldn't be doing that. All right, let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow after the Patriot games. Live on ESPN Super Duper. Yeah. Let's get out of here. Good luck with the wind. it's gone. Good luck to everybody dealing with this wind. It has calmed down a bit. If it wasn't for the wind in my face, I wouldn't be able to fly. Ain't that true. Said the Wright brothers plane.

2:31:47Pat McAfee:And then Vinatieri would say that and force us to kick into the wind every fucking day. And I told him I wasn't a plane. I was a man trying to kick a football. Well, so if we turn this around and maybe pump faster or fly faster with the wind. And that's why he's in the Hall of Fame. And I'm not. But on that note,

2:32:14Pat McAfee:wind is something that is ever-present, and you cannot see it. But it's something that we need to believe in, we need to feel, and we need to understand on the other side of the wind is the best weather we've ever experienced. Is that true? The wind brings the bad. C also clears that shit out. Yeah. So if you've got some bad times happening, know some good times coming. And it might be in the form of a vicious and in the middle of the storm and the wind, it's hard to keep your eye on the future. But never forget that it's coming. And when it comes, so are you. Hell yeah. Be your friend, tell your friend something nice.

2:32:53Pat McAfee:Hell yeah. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Thank all of you. for following along. Ain't that right, AJ? That is correct. The wind's coming, so are you. That's right. You're going to. That's what it's all about. Well, I don't know your style. I don't know what medicine's doing. I don't know what you're doing. I should take a snowboard. Yeah. Might be a short, little quick affair. That's what they say, at least. Two blanks.

2:33:24Pat McAfee:That's not what we're doing with this life, though, are we? Smuttering loads. Are you ruining it, AJ? We're doing something motivational. You took this thing a long way. We're trying to motivate all of you. All right, be a friend, tell a friend. Something very nice. It might change your life when we're sitting together. Album coming out Thursday night at midnight. The Diary of a Polarizing Figure. I do not believe we're going to be doing any shenanigans for any of it. Just know that I took a lot of time out of my life to share these notes that I've taken over the last 20 years. And I'm pretty proud of it.

2:33:56Pat McAfee:I'm pretty proud of what we got. And I'm very thankful that it's all kind of done. It was a lot of work. He's in the barn. Hell yeah. Ilya. This man down in Nashville is an absolute stallion. Mark Holman, Seth, Ernest, Jelly Belly. All the people that have helped me through this entire role, I appreciate the hell out of them. And I think we got a good little thing coming out. I think there's some bangers on there. Here we go. I think there is some bangers. Oh, yeah. I think there's some good songs in there. Some good writing, I hope people will say, in there. and maybe some stuff to get you through the day, which is all we're trying to do.

2:34:33Pat McAfee:You guys' shoulders getting tired? I'm watching it happen in real time. Never. A little bit. I've been kind of just right here the whole time. This is on Hard Knocks tonight, Seattle Seahawks. Offensive line versus defensive line. Two sledgehammers each. Who's going to break? Not us. Never. See you guys tomorrow. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're listening to the other. Team on me. Team on three. For the good of sport, baby. One, two, three. Team! Goodbye!

2:35:24season long.