PMS 2.0 1602 - TJ Lang, Jason McCourty, Daniel Jeremiah, Dan Orlovsky, Ice Cube, Gary Payton, & AJ Hawk

21:08Like, they're exactly what each other needs. They both challenge each other. They're both very high-IQ individuals that are always coming up with solutions to problems, whatever they might be. I think the Lions lacked that a little bit on offense last year when it came to the small details. A lot of simple alignment penalties and whatnot. And guys just not being in the right spot. It sounds like it's on a much better track right now. And look, I think that offensive coordinator, call it play caller, quarterback relationship is the most important relationship in that building. Because those guys have to be in unison.

21:45They have to be on the same page. They have to keep each other accountable. They have to always challenge each other to, you know, hey, how can we make it even better? Right. And it sounds like I know I don't want to overreact. We're only a couple of weeks into camp, but the returns on Drew Petsing and his leadership style and what he's brought to this offense, a little bit more stability than maybe they had last year. It sounds like it's going to be a really good thing. So I'm excited to see just how his process plays out, you know, starting tonight. I know it's preseason football, but, you know, and we're not going to see Jared Goff.

22:13But I'm excited to see, you know, maybe some new wrinkles that Drew Petsing is going to bring to this offense.

22:18Pat McAfee:Everything I see from Goff, I like him. You know, this is his entire story, obviously, traveling up there. I like that he hates the social media team doing the goofy bullshit and making him look bad. I love that. And by the way, we called this earlier. There's an epidemic with bad social media teams that don't know ball and make their players look terrible. Jalen Hurts is the most recent. Jalen Hurts, yeah. But the social media team admin, look at these numbers, man. This is ad win. 15 million views. I saw this this morning. And obviously, they're making somebody else look good. I get that you're doing that, but it's like your quarterback gets murdered.

22:50Pat McAfee:He's the face of your franchise. He gets killed for just exactly that right there. And then you just – the team actually takes the guy and just goes, hey, Internet, we got right what you're looking for. Get him. Go ahead. He looks like a ham and cheese son. Yeah, pastrami on right. The Internet did its thing, and it's like great play by Quinion, of course, but, like, what are we doing on the other side? ad winning, you know, from the social admin, which we respect. Alright, TJ, thank you so much, brother. Thanks, boys. Hey, get some water. I need it. Maybe nap. Yeah, nap. Oh, any left. He's going to take a shit, probably.

23:30Pat McAfee:Or puke. Yeah, one of the two. I mean, four hours on a plane where they're telling you this thing's going to be a bit gnarly. You know, this thing's going to be a bit gnarly. 45-minute expectation. Yeah. That's a short flight. Yeah, and if there was access to things on that plane, which I assume there was. I assume TJ, from our understanding, certainly. Hey, isn't there a – I need 10 more. I'm nervous. I got a big game tomorrow. This is for the good of me or whatever. I would like to see everybody's reaction on that. Nobody's talking about that. Lions players were on their plane last night for four hours when it was expected.

24:00Pat McAfee:First time I've seen that. Landed in Louisville, and then they hopped over to – now Louisville, Cincinnati, obviously. Cincinnati is on the Kentucky border. But still, that's a different – I noted it. Entire thing. That's a big deal. Yeah, something to think about. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is an absolute stallion, Super Bowl champion. It was just announced he's part of the Monday Night Countdown crew. Alongside NFL Live, and you see him all over TV. His brother also dominant on television and the football field. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason McCourty. Hey, Jason. What's happening? What's happening?

24:30Pat McAfee:You're up in New England right now? I'm up in beautiful Foxboro, Pat. Okay, that looks like there was a game I used to play. It was like a mailman. You drive through a neighborhood. Paperboy. Paperboy. Yeah, it was like, that is exactly, I think, like, as soon as you popped up there, I saw you on my little screen here. I'm like, that feels like one of those houses that we would drive and throw the entire, hey, look at you. Hey, let's go. Let's go. Absolutely crush it. Pump for you with Monday Night Countdown. Pump for everything you're doing. Let's dive into tonight. You're calling the Patriots-Colts game.

25:01Pat McAfee:This is a battle between Tommy Cutlich and Anthony Richardson, and then Riley Leonard will get in. I don't think I know who else. Baron Morton. Baron Morton from Texas Tech. Baron. Okay, Barrett Studd. I know he's won a lot of football games. Good for him. What are you looking forward to tonight in this second year with Vrabel, McDaniels, Drake May? What are you kind of expecting from tonight? And what has it felt like going forward this year with this Patriots team? Well, for one, with DeVito, he no longer goes by Tommy Cutlets. Vrabel and himself let us know it is just 2 Chainz. Tommy 2 Chainz.

25:35That's the only thing that goes by.

25:37Pat McAfee:Okay, he sees Tommy 2 Chainz. Okay. Tommy 2 Chainz. He got the two chains on everywhere he goes. But, man, this Patriots team, everybody's talked about the schedule's going to be harder, all of that stuff. This is a team that has gotten better. Drake May, only in his second year with Josh McDaniels, he now understands this offense and the why behind every single play. And I haven't even mentioned the fact that they've added an absolute stud on the outside in A.J. Brown. He's been going at it with Christian Gonzalez all training camp. The trash talking, all of that going on. The Patriots probably have the deepest wide receiver room in the entire NFL.

26:11They almost have more receivers than they can find to do with guys like Kayshaun Booty, Pop Douglas, and all of the guys, including Romeo Dobbs. So this is a team that feels like, hey, we made it to the Super Bowl last year, but Braves told us the road to success is always under construction. So they're getting right back to business and they're grinding it out.

26:28Pat McAfee:There's obviously a lot of conversations about Booty on whether or not he'll get traded out or end up somewhere else with how deep that wide receiver room is. is and we talked about you know A.J. Brown and Gonzo were battling every day for the beginning of camps and there was pushing and shoving allegedly we love hearing that and then the first clips we saw from the joint practice was A.J. Brown just cooking and wide receivers cooking our DBs sauce got cooked on this I think he even said well one one-on-one rep then the rest of practice from my understanding even though the Colts social media didn't let us know this in real time yeah I guess the Colts started playing a lot better and as well what has been the conversation about the Colts-Patriots joint practices and where do they kind of stand amongst the AFC if you will?

27:08Extremely competitive to your point the Colts offense had a good day the defense felt like for New England they walked off that field like we left a lot out there there was a lot more plays to be made the offense on the other side for New England felt really good about some of the plays but this goes back to the social media of all of it Sauce Gardner gives up a damn curl in practice in one-on-one and everyone goes nuts. It's a curl. It's a 12-yard route. You tackle a guy and you get up and you play the next down. I think both of these teams in the AFC are going to be super competitive. I think New England is still going to be a contender to make it back to the Super Bowl.

27:43What I was fascinated by, my brother was up at the practice a day ago, and he said Daniel Jones looked like he'd never had surgery before. He was just like he was out there absolutely throwing dimes, moving around great. He was like you would have never known that this guy was coming off an Achilles injury. so I know that fires you up.

27:59Pat McAfee:Yeah, I'd say. Yeah, because his mobility is the thing. You know, you look at him, you hear him talk. He's from Duke. You think to yourself, okay, white bread here, not going to be able to move. That's not the case at all. He is a big part of his game is being able to be mobile, take hits, and extend plays, let alone just running, outrunning people. He is always hitting his rushing over. Now, you say always, and especially nowadays, Daniel Jones hits his over on a regular basis rushing. And for us, last year, he was running, throwing. Our offense was number one in the damn league. And then he breaks his leg, and then he tears his Achilles.

28:38Pat McAfee:And then Sauce Gardner. We just had a comedy of misfortune down the stretch. But I like to hear that they're saying it's competitive with the New England Patriots. Wow. Yeah. Speaking of the Patriots, Boston Conner has a question for you, Mr. McCourty. Yeah, Jason, always an honor. Thank you for that pass breakup against the Rams in the Super Bowl. that'll go down as legendary forever. But speaking of the team this year, it feels like a huge part of the Patriots is running the football. And Trevion Henderson kicked off the preseason last year with a kick return. It was awesome. Felt like we had a guy.

29:07And now the Pats have signed a couple running backs, free agents the last couple days. And people are kind of questioning Trevion Henderson being the guy this year. What is the status of kind of the Ramondre-Stevenson-Trevion Henderson duo? Is that going to be a split backfield? Is that going to be Henderson and Stevenson? And what are you kind of thinking there and what are you hearing? I think it's going to continue to be Ramondre Stevenson as the lead back for them. But I think as Travion Henderson continues to come along, I think people don't realize there's more to understanding and performing at that running back position than just getting a handoff and running through a hole.

29:40It's understanding how to read blocks. The other side of it is the pass protection piece of it all. And I think for a rookie, it's hard to come in right away and understand blitz pickups, the communication between the quarterback. I think it's going to continue to be Stevenson as the lead back, but I think as Henderson continues to master this offense, it's going to be more and more on his plate. Like he's a home run waiting to happen when he gets on the football field and when he's in that backfield. But I think what we've seen throughout training camp was them using him as a receiver, catching the ball out of the backfield, and using his speed for mismatches against some of these linebackers.

30:13That's always been Josh McDaniel's specialty, mismatches, and he finds a way to get guys on islands to be able to create that separation.

30:20Pat McAfee:We appreciate the hell out of you, man. good luck tonight good luck this season and uh we'll see you down the road anytime man good to see you pat hey you super fit man yeah yeah it's outrageous it looks like your jaw has muscles you know like you are just absolutely jack yeah that's it that's the jamaican that's the jamaican in me it just is born that way oh bumblecloth rude boy we appreciate the hell yeah ladies and gentlemen Jason McCourty. Yeah, Jason. All right, I love that. I'm happy for him, man. Yeah. Him and his brother both. Yeah. Because they were internet guys. They were doing internet stuff.

30:56Pat McAfee:And then obviously get TV commercials. And then now, you know, Sunday Night Football, Football Night in America, and Monday Night Countdown. Pretty good. That's a cool thing. Yeah, sick. Very, very, very happy for them. Okay, let's go to a big conversation piece. There was a head coach in Miami. It's considered as, like, super genius offense. he gets fired. Yeah. Yeah. Guess where he goes. Where? Los Angeles Chargers. City of Stovers. Wow. With a quarterback that is allegedly, haven't gotten to see it in the biggest games yet, three different head coaches, allegedly could be the one. And the clips out of camp?

31:35Pat McAfee:It's like it. Seems like they're a really good relationship. And also, he's really happy right now. I was kidding. He's very happy. What? The happiest you've ever seen, you could argue. Smitten. He is smitten. Smitten, smoked, yeah. Yeah, but that arm is smoking. Yeah, it is. So he's smitten and he's smoking. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, a man is going to be on the call for this evening. An absolute stud. You can move the sticks with him. You can hear him at the combine. He has every single dress. What's that? I mean, I wish I could move the sticks with him. All I'm hearing is a freaking robot now.

32:09Pat McAfee:Oh, yeah. Mr. AI calling the Chargers versus the Texans tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, you can't spell his name without ai daniel jeremiah oh i'm sorry daniel jeremiah that is what your name is what happened there can you explain quickly what happened because that came into our radar yesterday where uh i guess this is a thing that's happening now i guess we should have assumed this uh people are just just typing in podcasts into ai and they're just sending it out there and random weird voices are saying weird things for the podcast. And it was Daniel Jeremiah's podcast. It was. It really threw me for a loop.

32:46Pat McAfee:Yeah, because we were looking forward to learning. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, so what happened? Can you explain quickly what took place there and how this new world is rather wild? Sure, yeah. So when this whole merger happened, ESPN, NFL Network, so I'm going over on the ESPN side under still NFL Network but off the digital stuff, and Bucky's staying on the digital side with the NFL and writing and doing all his content. So the podcast was going to come to a close there. I'm a podcasting free agent. I'll have that announced, I think, next week of where that is. So the Move the Sticks feed was still there, and they dropped some content in there, which was a guy named Shopee who does a good job, does all the YouTube videos.

33:27But they just didn't announce who it was, and so it confused a lot of people, and it still had our artwork and our name on there. And so it ended up being like a firestorm. I just had my first grandbaby, Pat, and I'm literally holding a grandbaby. And I'm trying to, I don't know what's, I'm just like, is this AI? I'm like, what the heck are you guys talking about? I have no idea what's going on at this point in time.

33:49Pat McAfee:Well, I want to let you know, I'm sorry that in that moment holding your grandbaby, you're having to deal with modern technology, but also pretty gangster that that's kind of how that grandbaby came into life. Welcome to the new world, kid. Might be AI as a podcast. Your dad, your grandpa, okay, your father's father has an opportunity or mom. Well, what are you, which side? daughter's daughter's daughter okay so your your mother's father here is a man who is so good people are trying to rip them off you know that's a fun story congratulations on being a podcasting free agent yeah no i think that's coming uh that announcement's coming next week i did get the name so it'll be move the sticks just kind of as i've always done it and it'll be a little bit of a solo mission and we'll have a new home next week hopefully okay well congratulations on all of that and me saying move the sticks while you were talking about all this i thought to myself yikes can't probably not move the sticks happy you are still move the sticks still move the stick hell yeah just trying to get a first down here that's all we're trying to do uh all right mr jeremiah let's talk about this game tonight let's talk about this relationship between herbert mcdaniel so we saw the clip on social of him talking to jim harbaugh mcdaniel that is and saying like you have to have an absolute howitzer to make this play happen or whatever so then it's a roll to the left throw back to the right sideline i guess and it's on a rope obviously which most of Justin Herbert's throws are and you see McDaniel get super excited the immediate reaction from everybody on the internet was like oh McDaniel's starting to realize that he has like an actual physical specimen as a quarterback not that Tua wasn't a phenomenal ball thrower phenomenal timing route guy for him they did amazing things together down in Miami but it does feel like McDaniel's learning in real time just what Justin Herbert is remember he can kick a field goal if he has to he can punt if he has to this guy can do it all how do you feel about that relationship and what should we expect as this thing continues to blossom you think i'm excited to see it man uh once we get it all together i just think of like a master playbook right and you need like a different code to access different portions of the playbook and mcdaniel we acknowledge you know the creativity and how good a job he's done but he's never had to access codes to some of the plays he's going to be able to call and run with justin so when you get that creativity almost like an artist and then you pair him with a enormous canvas I mean I'm excited to see what they end up painting and I would also add on top of that like guys get ready for this game I know we won't see the guys tonight you know the main guys but when you look at this Chargers team Pat you're literally adding two all pro level tackles they went to the playoffs last year without either one of them now you add both those you add the creativity you get Omari and Hampton healthy for a whole season and the guy you see leaping up and catching this ball right now lad mcconkey in my opinion was put on this earth to play in this offense like he's gonna go nuts okay so lad mcconkey about to have a julian edelman west walker danny emendola type season is that what lads gonna do or is lad gonna be open and stretching the fielders he got option routes we got option routes at about five six yards where he can just kind of cook everybody whatever he wants to what are you expecting yeah run after catch um he's gonna just gonna give you so much to that where you're getting, you know, in the past where they might have been conversions, it's third and six and you're getting the conversion.

36:59You're happy with the eight yards. The ball is going to come out so quick and he can separate and uncover so quick. He's going to have an opportunity to turn those, you know, eight yard gains into 20, 30 yard gains. There's going to be a lot of run after catch explosives where, you know, Justin with his big arm can access deep down the field and go over the top. They're going to get explosives without having to even drive the ball as far down the field.

37:21Pat McAfee:We were talking to Dan Orlovsky last week. We were talking to Dan Orlovsky last week about this offense that McDaniel runs, about the timing and things, and the type of ball in which he throws. I think because he has such a cannon, he's going to be able to be a little bit slow maybe on his reads at the beginning of the season. His arm might be able to catch up with his brain at some point. When do we think he'll be able to get a full grasp of what this offense could be, or we just never know what the full grasp is ever going to be because McDaniel has a never-ending playbook for this guy? Well, I think he's getting it quick.

37:51I mean, I was out there at training camp, and I saw, you know, more back foot ball gone throws from Justin where it was just timing that you see these incredible plays. I mean, I've called all these plays. They're all kind of rolling back through my head. So many of them are where he's buying time, and he's throwing across his body like these incredible throws. But they're just baking in some easier completions for him to complement those. So he looked pretty darn comfortable in what I saw. I'm sure it'll get better as the year goes along. But, I mean, I'm trying to not get too carried away here.

38:25But I don't think this is you've got to wait until midseason to see how this thing looks. I think they'll come out the gate ready to go.

38:31Pat McAfee:I love that. Can't wait for that. And that is what is expected of Justin Herbert, by the way, especially now that he's in love. Yeah, bingo. He's in love publicly. I love that for him. We're excited for Justin Herbert. Now let's go to the other side of the ball here, the Texans. You know, C.J. Stroud showed up to camp. It was a big conversation. It wasn't a good conversation, especially with how last year playoffs ended for C.J. Stroud. And obviously C.J. has been very good, led them to the playoffs multiple times. They won the AFC South. C.J. has been great, but he's had some bad moments. And then off the field, there's people saying they lost potentially all of his oars somehow.

39:01Pat McAfee:I don't like that because we love C.J. Stroud. But as you look at the Texans, I don't know how much film you're studying for these preseason games or how much you're kind of diving into them. What is your expectation for D 'Amico Ryans and the boys down there in Houston, who we know can certainly be a contender if they're able to play good football because of how good their defense is, right? Is that the thought? Yeah, look, I think it's the best defense in the league, and I think the offense, you know, they've made some changes along the offensive line. They get that receiving, that young receiving group they had last year, you know, kind of growing up to go along with the veteran solid pieces they have.

39:33I think it's an A-tier AFC team. You know, I think they're right there in it. And that's, of all the teams I've seen, the defenses I've seen over the last few years, seeing them up close and personal, that felt like the most violent group. You know, those 49er defenses a few years back really, really felt that way. I know Seattle obviously hoisted the trophy last year, but that group is violent, man. It is a physical, physical group. And CJ, I don't know, he looks like he's in good shape. I know, like, he got a haircut, but he looks like he's lean and maybe move around a little bit more now with the shape he's in.

40:08Pat McAfee:I'll be excited to see how active he is. Obviously a phenomenal athlete. That is something that you can't question. I hope he plays his best ball because a lot of people have been very loud talking about him. And I don't think it was the haircut. I think it was what he's wearing. I think it was just – it just was not an ad win by the admin. No. It was a social media blunder, I believe, even letting it hit the internet. They should have got a casual – I think it was – Oh, nice. Yeah, I think it was everything. But on that note, that's how comfortable and confident this guy is. For sure. That's how he moseys into it.

40:38You know who that is? That's the guy that you're playing pickup, and he's like the fourth pick, and he never leaves the court. That's what that is. That's what that guy is. You're talking about Billy Ho.

40:47Pat McAfee:Yeah, I know who you're talking about exactly. I know exactly who you're talking about, Billy Ho, but that's also made me very comfortable, I think. I'm excited to watch the Houston Texans. They're definitely top two in the AFC South, I'd say. You would think. I would say at this point, top two. Hey, dude, your quarterback's healthy, man. I'm hearing good things. I'm excited to see what that looks like, moving around a little bit. Yeah. Jason McCourty told us that Devin McCourty was up at practice and said that Daniel Jones looks like he didn't even have surgery. It's like, okay, we're back. We're the best team in football for 10 weeks.

41:15Pat McAfee:And it seems like we just ran that thing exactly back. That's happening tonight. Packers-Steelers is happening tonight. There's also plenty of other storylines developing around all of it. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, DJ, we got an answer on one QB competition with Minnesota, but there's still a couple going on. One of them, not sure how much it's health-related in Atlanta with Tua versus Penix, and then, of course, in Cleveland, where it's kind of Deshaun versus Shador. Is either of those stick out to you between those two in Cleveland and Atlanta, and what are you hearing when it comes to where the lean kind of is for those QBs?

41:49Yeah, my expectation for all of them was that it's just easier to go veteran to rookie than to go the other way. So I feel like all these things end up trending in that direction. We'll see. I think Deshaun Watson goes first in Cleveland, and then we'll see what that looks like with him and Shador. But it just feels like I think we'll see both of them there. But I think Watson gets the first crack at it. And then you look at Tua just from a health perspective with Penix. That made more sense as well. But, I mean, that situation, I mean, there's no way one of those guys runs the table. I mean, they both unfortunately had a history and a track record of, you know, some durability.

42:25No, no more injuries.

42:26Pat McAfee:DJ, we decided yesterday no more injuries to anybody in the NFL. That's it? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's good news. I got to write that one down because that'll probably change some of my thoughts on the upcoming season. Well, it already sounds like your negativity might fuck it all up from just from what it sounded like. Because we need that. Pat, have you seen how good the Padres are playing? I have zero negativity in my soul right now. We are on fire. Oh, Slam Diego's back. Jackson Merrill's just Jackson Merrill's hitting better. Anybody in baseball, Tatis is back. We're good. Have you ran into the Miz yet?

42:59Pat McAfee:Because I would like to see how that goes. We just swept the team that he plays for. We just polished up a three-game sweep of those guys. Beat that. Did the Miz play? No, we missed him. He didn't want that. Oh, yeah. Seems to be a nice little operation over there. Get in whenever the Miz is in his little stuff. Okay, smart. Just know that we got a problem with the Miz. We couldn't put the wild card up there. We got to put us 90 million games behind the Dodgers. We're in the wild card spot. Evening Christmas. The Padres right there in second in the NOS, 65-57. Just only eight games behind the Los Angeles Dodgers out there in the National League West.

43:39Pat McAfee:Okay, let alone the rest of M.O. Just in the National League. They're eight games behind. Just reeled in the Phillies. Just reeled in the D-backs. But we don't have that board, apparently. That's terrible. Hey, listen. These are stats that M.O.B.'s putting out. You got a problem? Go to ESPN.com. Maybe you can find some different stuff. Also, I want to let everybody know, Skeeno's just fine. Is that right? I don't know. That picture was concerning. Skeeno is just fine. That wasn't real. I've seen some bad things. We're done with baseball. Okay? Okay, you're right. Yeah, you... It's what? You said it.

44:10Pat McAfee:It's what? It's football day. It's football day. Thank you. It's football day. So I don't need you doing the shit you just did either. We got a whole slate of preseason games tonight, and all of a sudden we're talking about what? Skeeno right now? I love it. He's bad. Pat, how do you know this is the real me? You can't blame this on me, man. You don't know. it's kind of scary dj easy that is kind of scary isn't it yeah we're gonna have to demand in thunderdome appearances from folks yeah yeah at all times in the future because people do do the fake background already for their zoom calls right who's that guy with the massive tush remember oh yeah and he was acting like he was in the office and he was like rollerblading down the street yeah he wasn't acting like he was he wasn't well right yeah it wasn't even a question people would start doing that to us.

44:54Pat McAfee:Just pop an AI in there. Destroy the sticks. They try to take the sticks down. They try to steal the sticks, too, and kind of hat-jack that thing. They know he's a free agent in the podcasting game. That had to be a fun little thing for you. Actually, if you wanted to commit to it full-time, I don't know what your commitment level is to a podcast versus everything else you got going on. Anytime you're a free agent in anything, that's good news. So, congratulations to you. We hope that ends up great. Let's get back to football. don't give me that yeah yeah okay let's go let's go we're ready i hope padres lose every game going forward i hope padres lose every game going forward i i don't mean that i like the slam diego team actually it's a lot of fun and also mason miller's a pittsburgh guy come on pat yeah we're trying to get him out of there actually during the trade deadline sorry to everybody over there you guys have a great city we understand that you love it but also mason miller coming back to pittsburgh would have been nice that was never going to happen no no no that I was never going to die.

45:50Pat McAfee:We were acting like, done with baseball. Let's move along. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, DJ, so we talked about a couple of the teams in the AFC South, but a lot of people are bullish on the Titans. And we're going to see Cam Ward a little bit tonight in the nightcap against the 49ers. What are your expectations for him just overall this year with his first year under Dable? Are you expecting him to take a pretty big jump? Because I think a lot of people are. Yeah, I was out there for practice and got a chance to visit with him and got a chance to visit with Dable, all the guys there. He's very confident.

46:25The talent is all there. He can make incredible plays, incredible throws. And I think Tate's presence there, when I was there, there was so much heat on him and so much buzz on him. He catches everything. We got a chance to visit with him as well. He's an impressive dude. I think he's my pick for Offensive Rookie of the Year. I think he's going to have a massive year. So to me, there's some pieces that are still missing on defense. I think they're going to be better there. Jeffrey Simmons is a freak show. I mean, he's in unbelievable shape. He's there. It's blistering hot. He's wearing long sleeves.

46:56I'm like, dude, what are you doing? He's like, I like to feel it. I'm like, this guy's different. Okay, he's wired a little bit different. But he's going to have a monster year. I think they're still pieces away, but they're going to be a fun watch, and I think you do see Cam Ward take a jump.

47:09Pat McAfee:I think so, too. I think Dayball and him are a perfect match. After getting a chance and learning about Dayball a little bit, he's dog, too. So Cam talking his shit, Dayball loves that. Remember, he wanted Malik neighbors with the Giants strictly because he is a dog. So Cam Ward, from all accounts, is a shit-talking beast. Isn't that kind of what everybody calls him? Incredibly talented dog of a quarterback. Dayball might actually be the perfect match for him. Now, do they have enough pieces to be able to keep up with everybody else? Because obviously whenever you're rebuilding a franchise, basically, there's not just one position or two positions you need.

47:41Pat McAfee:But I like the momentum it seems like the Tennessee Titans have. unless they lose the first four out of five games and we go same old titans would suck for them down in national dj i think they're going to be okay man i think that you know look there's still pieces to add to the offensive line going forward i think they know that i do love skaronski i was glad to see he got his deal done um and then defensively i think in the back end you can can you know continue to add and build but they're better man the roster's better um there's just a different vibe there i was there for camp last year and i think there was a lot of hoping and wishing and and I feel like they've extended beyond that this year.

48:15Pat McAfee:That's the most absurd NFL play we've seen in some time. He just scrolled and scrambled. Ah, what the hell? Okay, now I'm going to throw. 53 and a third is the width of the field, okay? So, obviously, if you're out by the numbers, I think you're at like – yeah, so he's like probably 48 and a half, and then he goes all the way back. Running against it. Perfect. Fade away, throw back to the other side. Probably 40 yards across field, probably. Probably. Let alone 15 yards downfield. A squared plus B squared equals C squared. You do the Pythagorean theorem. This guy's doing a fadeaway, like, 55-yard throw kind of into a bucket.

48:47Pat McAfee:It's an absolutely absurd thing. He is a ridiculous talent. He knows it. I think his teammates love him. Will the Titans ever be able to be good? Will he be able to ever become, like, system QB? You know, that was kind of the thing about Caleb Williams. Can he get into Ben Johnson's system? Ben Johnson said that Caleb was nowhere near in the system last year. Even whenever they were winning games late, he was like, our quarterback needs to play better. is going to play better as he continues to learn it. And then allegedly he said something along the lines of, we want to be the highest scoring offense in the history of the NFL.

49:19Pat McAfee:Denver, I believe, had 38 points a game. Yeah, and then there was a team in 1950 who had like 39 or something like that. But yeah, Denver. Modern NFL, 38 points a game in 2013. Remember Peyton Manning leaves the Colts to go do that in Denver as he breaks a bunch of records after coming back from maybe never being able to move or feel his fingers again with all the shit that was happening with his neck, which is crazy. But that's a lofty goal, obviously. And we've seen Ben Johnson do what he did in Detroit. You know, you would assume that they were up near 28 points a game, 30 points a game. I believe that was the top 10 scoring offense of all time, I think.

49:56Pat McAfee:Yeah, so he's been able to do it in the past. Caleb Williams, obviously, we all see the incredible upside. What are your thoughts on what Caleb is going to become? And what do you think Ben Johnson is looking for from him in the offense to become the all-time leading scoring offense in NFL history? I'm in, man. I'm all in on Caleb. I'm all in on the Bears. I feel like there's been some reluctance on them where people are like, oh, well, no, they're going to take a step back. Or Caleb, you're not going to see him evolve. He's never going to be able to play on schedule. That's not who he is. I don't believe that at all.

50:26I think the steps he took last year, and look, it wasn't like he was playing on schedule. This obviously was not on schedule, this play. But it wasn't like he was on schedule 100 % of the time, but it was improved vastly from year one to year two. And I think now having command of this offense, I think, you know, get Luther Burton healthy back out there. You know, once the season gets rolling, he's going to be a massive impact player to go along with second year tight in and Loveland who's going to be better. Like they're so young. It's so many of these spots. I think they are. The only thing for me on terms of like chasing records and those things, like, I don't know if weather's their friend there.

51:01That's not, that's not playing indoors in Detroit. oh yeah indiana are they going to be the indiana bears no no no think about a politician just in general being like ah to hell with the entire city of chicago like i don't think any politician is

51:20Pat McAfee:i mean granted we have not reached out to the governor to ask him that direct question but i think our incredible assumption would be indiana would be very excited to have chicago bears be a part of that area up there so i i there was a tweet that went mega viral last night that people said he the name indiana will be involved in the name or something it's like i okay we gotta watch that we gotta we gotta watch what's going on because people are getting real worked up about big time pissed and i could understand that by the way i don't think the indiana people as somebody lives in indiana i don't think the state of indiana is like yeah we want the name like i I don't think there's a lot of people doing it.

52:01Pat McAfee:It would be a stupid war for politicians to start, I believe, with both Chicago, which is they're trying to do business with, right? We would like the Bears fans to be coming. That's kind of a huge part of it. A massive part of it. A massive part of it is like, hey, we got a lot of space for you here. We got this entire thing, but we don't want to piss you off. Like, we're just trying to make this a better experience as opposed to a worse experience, I think. So I don't know what's real. Hey, Pat. Go ahead. If they don't want to win championships, though, they go to Bloomington. Is that? Is that how that worked?

52:31Pat McAfee:We had him on, Mr. McClellan, I believe. Did he really? Yeah, we had him on the show. How was that? He said it was a one-liner that just didn't land. Yeah. But he was talking to his base. You know, he was talking to his base. That wasn't supposed to be a national thing. But there was a lot of people saying he didn't know that Indiana won. So I did ask him that. I'm like, he did know. Yeah, I was there with my kid. Yeah, I was an athletic director of Rice. Yeah, I understand that day one. I was just trying to – I think he's going to do good things, but he came in trying to fire them up. I don't know if academically they're going to be able to get everything that you potentially need, but they've got a lot of money.

53:05Pat McAfee:They've got astronauts coming out of it. Top 10 alumni network. Okay, as we pivot to college, last question here from AP Tone. Yeah, DJ, I can't remember a season that I'm more excited for, and I think it's because I just wrote down a list here. Dante Moore, Sane, Manning, Sellers, Carr, Mensah, Iamaliava, Maieva, Chambliss, Hoover, Mestemaker, Levitt. Those are all potential quarterbacks in next year's draft, and the potential quarterbacks are going to be unbelievable this year in college football. Which one of those guys or any guy are you most looking forward to watching this season in preparation for next year's draft?

53:39I mean, there is a bunch of them that I'm excited. This is the most excited I've been about a college season in a long time because it's just so many quarterbacks. They're everywhere. NIL, DJ.

53:49Pat McAfee:NIL, brother. Yeah, I think it's great, man. I think it's going to be a great college season because of it. But, you know, Arch, to me, the tools are just, they're special tools. He's just got to continue to put it all together. He's like the opposite of what you would have thought. Like before you go in and study, I thought, okay, you're going to see all the polish. And then, you know, we'll see where he is physically. And then when you really, you know, obviously you watch college football and then you really set the tape. Like this guy has got elite, you know, athleticism, strength in the pocket, the ability to drive the football, all those things are there.

54:19He just needs to get a little bit more refined, which he's going to get with playtime. So I think he's been an easy target for his whole life. So there's people that are always going to be skeptical. I'm a big believer and excited to see him. I'd have more. Dante Moore coming into the season would be my top quarterback, just where he is and how he played last year. Real loose. Everything he does is real smooth and fluid. Obviously, he wants a throwback against Indiana to start that game. But to me, he's just a real natural, smooth thrower, different arm angles, all that stuff. It comes real easy to him.

54:50So he would be the top one for me. And then in terms of just the fundamentals, looking just crisp and clean, C.J. Carr, for somebody who hasn't played a ton, he is locked in. It's coaching tape. You watch his feet and the way he throws the ball. He's a really, really good player. So I haven't seen all these guys yet. Stellers would be on the list of someone who just want to see him bounce back after last year. He's got a lot of ability, big, strong, physical, tough. Just got to be more consistent throwing the ball. The one guy that I have not watched yet who I've heard buzz from teams who think he could end up being the best of the bunch was Mensah.

55:26Man, there's a lot of scouts who love that dude. I have not had a chance to study him yet.

55:29Pat McAfee:Can spin it. Can certainly spin it. And I think the stacked quarterback position in college football, I think any football. That's why super-duper FL is going to struggle. If you don't have good quarterbacks, your product's probably going to suck. I mean, that's just how it is for when it comes to football. college and I mentioned this earlier because of the NIL Dante Moore went back right yeah he was able to go back but it's not just him he's got a lot of guys back alongside of him and they're all you know comfortably paid and uh doing their thing but all focused on a mission it's like I think everybody thought NIL was going to potentially take away from the game it's like I think it's adding a lot of talent a lot of maturity obviously they have to cut that back can't have like 10 years of football or whatever but I like what it's doing it's giving a lot of game snaps to people like Fernando.

56:15I love it. I should, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Shambliss. Shambliss is my, it was the most fun quarterback I watched in the off season. I had someone ask me like, Hey, could, could, uh, could he be a first round pick? I'm like, could he be a, I mean, Bryce Young was the first overall pick. Yeah, absolutely. This guy was talking to folks down there. He's like 220 pounds. Like he's built more like Russell. He's going to be just under six foot, but he's got a strong lower. Like he's, he's sturdy and he is a play maker. Agreed.

56:41Pat McAfee:We were on the field watching him play and my first takeaway was this dude could play on Sunday. He was unbelievable. Can't wait for the college season. Can't wait for the NFL. Can't wait to listen to you tonight on the call for Chargers and Texans. That's Daniel Jeremiah. Yeah, DJ. Hour one here of our brunch is wrapping up. We'll be back on the other side. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Polarizing figure tonight.

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58:03Pat McAfee:Football! It is fantastic. We got a whole slate of preseason games tonight, and the stars are going to be out. Joe Burrow's playing football tonight. Jordan loves playing football. Okay. We don't know who's playing tonight for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but we do know that football is going to be happening across the board. 7 p.m. It all kicks off on NFL Network as the Packers take on the Steelers. Obviously, Coach Mike McCarthy of the Pittsburgh Steelers, formerly of the Green Bay Packers, still has home in Green Bay as he visits his childhood home, Pittsburgh, and becomes their head coach. And I'll tell you, the Steelers under the McCarthy era seemingly have a different juice, a different buzz.

58:38Pat McAfee:Obviously, Coach Tomlin was there for 18 years before he stepped away. Now Coach Mike McCarthy gets his first chance to run out on Accresure as the head coach of Pittsburgh Steelers. That's going to be a fun moment for him. I do assume he will be getting a little bit emotional as we go through. Their Lions will take on the Bengals. Joey B's playing. Anthony Richardson will lead the Colts, former number four overall pick for our Indianapolis Colts. He has a lot to prove. Potentially other suitors around the league for his services. as we just paid Daniel Jones up over$100 million. He's taking on Tommy 2 Chainz.

59:08That's right.

59:08Pat McAfee:Hey, when you see this Paijan walking around, he's always got 2 Chainz on. Now, listen, Titty Boy is 2 Chainz already, so you've got to be Tommy 2 Chainz down here. Sound good? Vrabel said it. Tommy DeVito said it. And also his agent. Sean Stolato. He said no problem. Chargers take on the Texans. Cardinals take on the Raiders. Titans take on the 49ers. The Stars are out. Football is all the way back. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP tone. Go on, lad. Did you happen to see what Sean Stolato's up to lately? Yes. Yeah, he was trying to play in something, right? Yeah. Oh, he ain't trying.

59:34He's going to be in the Olympics, my friend, for flag football for Team Italy.

59:38Pat McAfee:Team Italy. He's on it. Oh, listen. He's on a flag football team for Italy? Yeah. Is Chuck Pagano coaching that team? He probably should. Yeah, listen. Maybe Chuck Pagano gets your old wish-a-wild. Puts a couple flags on. You know, maybe gets your boys running for Team Italia. How is that team going to be? He's the quarterback for them. NFL agent Sean Stolato has advanced training camp with the Italian men's national flag football team. Stolato will report to the Italian Olympic Committee headquarters next month in Rome, of course. Yeah. As the Romans would do. Right. When in Rome. When he's going to do as the Romans do.

1:00:10Pat McAfee:Sean Stolato will do as the Romans do. By ball. Where he'll compete for a roster spot for the World Games in Germany, which obviously then leads to the 2028 Olympic. Can you scroll down? Is there a photo of him? Oh, yeah. It looks good. Yeah. It looks good in the North End. That's Tommy Duchesne's aging right there. And listen, yeah, I'm wearing J's, but don't question the flag that's there. It looks a little... Sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead, bud. The world games start today, I believe. Hey, Sean Stilato on the team. We shall see. He better be. Let's go to the Toxic table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.

1:00:39Pat McAfee:Head to an attic in Ohio. A college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Haag. Yeah! Hey, listen, maybe you fly back to Germany and try to get on that flag football team, A.J. Yeah, how does that work? How old is Sean Stilato? Is there an age limit? Do you have to be between 15 and 50? How old is it? What do you mean? You're trying to be an ageist? Is that what you're trying to be right now? No, not at all. I'm just wondering who else is trying out for this Italian flag football team. Well, 49 is the max age. I guess you could be. Every pie is on within the round.

1:01:12Pat McAfee:He is jacked. No, sorry. Sean is 49. Oh, okay. Oh, Jesus. I thought that was the max. Looks like he's 30. He could be any age. Listen, I don't want to get into it, but there are some genetics, I do believe that the Italians have that keep them younger. I'm not going to say what it is, you know, because there's other people who probably say... Pursuit. Meet the balls. We put an IV of olive oil in our veins every night. That would be the one that I thought you were going to immediately go to, Irish man from Boston, but he did not. But shout out to the Italians and shout out to Sean Stellato. Making dreams come true for damn near 50-year-olds all around the globe.

1:01:49Crazy. He's got no chance. What do you mean? You shut your mouth. He's too old to play flag football. He will not be able to move. He's got no chance.

1:01:56Pat McAfee:Who's going to be on that team, though? Tommy Tuchens. Yeah, probably. Play football in Italy? Do they play football over there? Do they play football? Seems like it's going to be a lot of Americans with a good Italian family. Ben DiNucci. Yeah, Ben DiNucci might be in there. Why doesn't Tone go out for the team? Because I'm unathletic. Okay. All right. I like to hear that. I do like to hear that. Look at this. Yeah, look at the bend on the 49ers. That's a live shot today. No, I don't think so. Speaking of live shots from today, golf is happening down at the St. Jude Championship, the first round of the FedEx Cup playoffs.

1:02:32Pat McAfee:There's three weeks. Today is the top 70. Next week will be the top 50. The week after that will be the top 30. At the beginning of the morning, Omi Fleetwood chipped in for Eagle on par 5 hole number 3. Scotty Scheffler also had a bird there. Scotty was one under. He is now two under. Scotty Scheffler is lurking. Lurking. This is a live look. We can drop the lower third, please. Okay, never mind. Didn't have any more on there. I thought we were going to maybe get some hands, see what we saw from the hands. Scotty Scheffler sweating his ass off down there. It's very hot. Said it feels like 101 or whatever the case.

1:03:06Pat McAfee:And obviously this kicks off the most important three weeks of the entire season, AJ. Hawk is Memphis finds a hush as Scotty Scheffler tries to figure out what the hell he's going to do. Your current leader at four under is Harris English and Jordan Spieth. Tommy has dropped back to minus three. Tommy! Gary Woodland, three under. Kurt Kitayama, legend, also three under. He's a good player. Scotty Shaffler right behind at two under here. Tied for seventh. Thirteenth hole here. Minus two and he's only hit two of nine fairways. Look at Scotty. Yeah, Scotty's been scrambling today down there in Memphis.

1:03:41Pat McAfee:Might be because his shirt is absolutely drenched with sweat. Always a great scrambler. Does have a baby still people forgot about him having a newborn doing the entire season Still the number one golfer in the world everybody's saying he's ass, but he's normally top three in every tournament Scotty Shiffler with the target that the TV people say should be aiming for

1:04:13Pat McAfee:Oh, mashed potatoes! Absolutely smokes it. He flushed it. Ball speed off the tee. Sick. 162 miles an hour as it goes into the first cut there. That would not be a fairway in reg, but it would be damn good. It's got to have a good angle in from there. Scotty Sheffler kind of edging the fairways there, which we appreciate. We'll keep you updated from Memphis. It's Rory McIlroy. He's taking the D. Why do you have to whisper with the accent, too? Because that's how you do. You need to respect. We're in America. You ever seen? You need to respect. It doesn't fit Rory as good, but as long as he hits it, he hits his little ball.

1:04:50Oh.

1:04:53Pat McAfee:Rory's got all of that little body into it, didn't he? On the edge of the bunker, it should be perfect. Yes, he did. Oh, it's a beauty. Perfection from Rory, whose ball speed there was obviously way up there. Way up there. Way up there. Way up there. And look at him. Is there a Walmart between him and Scottie, people will ask. Congratulations as the boys continue to hunt another tour championship. We'll be joined here in a matter of moments by Dan Orlovsky. He's been on TV all morning. A lot of people are saying, why are you putting him on? Well, because it's our turn to attack him. He put out his list of quarterbacks.

1:05:28Pat McAfee:and obviously he's got like arm strength one the list we go all right okay yeah i mean that feels that feels like a pretty good one ball placement he's got a list we go okay sure i mean that sounds good whatever the case is i'm sure there's some people that are pissed that they're not on there you know there's probably some people that think they should be ranked a little bit higher or whatever the case like brock purdy but i mean he probably thinks to himself i don't have good ball placement but i don't have top five ball placement the entire offense kind of there's obviously some arguments. Then we go to the mechanics one.

1:05:59Pat McAfee:This is where I believe potentially Fauci told him to do his thing. I think there is a Fauci influence here on this one. Hey, listen, you got to do what you got to do. We're saying Aaron Rodgers doesn't have top 10 mechanics in the NFL? Just mechanics in the NFL? We're saying he doesn't have that at this point, or are we just kind of leaving him off? I remember this from last year, and I'm pretty sure his excuse was, well, Aaron, what he does, nobody else can do. You can't replicate Aaron Rodgers mechanics because nobody else can do them. And I feel like that was his it because we did this last year, I remember, with Dan O and his rankings.

1:06:33And I think that is what his entire excuse was with the Rodgers.

1:06:36Pat McAfee:I mean, we'll find out in six minutes, whatever it is. It sounds pretty stupid to me. But once again, we look at this list, we go, all right. Yeah, it feels – we got a lot of good quarterbacks right now, it feels like, in the NFL. A lot of good quarterbacks in college as well. We are very blessed by the football gods right now at the most important position. I've been paying attention during the first hour to see what he's being attacked for. It's the decision-making one that people aren't happy with about right now. Here's his decision-making one. Josh Allen, who used to be known as Bonehead Bill's quarterback, Josh Allen, because he would make these bonehead decisions late in the game.

1:07:08Pat McAfee:That was like his first couple years in the league where he was just trying to do everything. He was athleting everybody. I think that was kind of a narrative about Josh for a while. I think what Dan's saying is, yeah, right, since he's become the MVP and the guy, he makes great decisions. There's going to be a lot of debate about this. Matthew Stafford just won an MVP. Obviously, he's able to move safeties to make his decisions right and move corners to be able to do that at the elite level. Jordan Love, interesting. I'm excited to hear this conversation with Dan Orlovsky on why he went about doing this.

1:07:38Pat McAfee:Drake May has the best deep ball kind of percentage there is. So whenever he decides to take a shot, he hits. Whenever he does it, he doesn't. And he was finalist for an MVP in his second year, first year in an offensive system. Jaden Daniels, this is what Jaden's people are saying. Exactly. Huh. You put him right here, top five decision maker in the entire NFL, and he got us just handing out his jersey number willy-nilly down there at LSU. That's a bad decision. Have you heard about this, AJ? What's going on down there at LSU? I have, yeah. This is a thing. I mean, it's a real thing that colleges have to deal with.

1:08:09They promise numbers to recruits coming in and all kind of stuff.

1:08:12Pat McAfee:Source told ESPN that Daniels feel as he is being treated differently as Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. His number nine jersey hasn't been worn in LSU since he won the Heisman Trophy and led LSU to a 15-0 record, and maybe the greatest team of all time, College Football Playoff National Championship in 2019. Now, can I say what probably happened? Sure. Yes. I think people around Jaden Daniels, I'm not going to say, we cannot say who it is, but it's people around him. We don't know exactly who it is. People around him probably say like, don't you think LSU should be treating you a little bit better, especially new coach, everything like that down there?

1:08:47Pat McAfee:You've done a lot for them, obviously. You transferred in there, had a lot of success. You've shown them a lot of love. They're just kind of handing your jersey. They don't give Joe Burrows number one. They don't give Patrick Mahomes number one. I think somebody probably presented it in that particular fashion. And then Jaden's like, okay, yeah, probably. Probably just like a casual, you got it. And then all of a sudden, people from Jaden Daniels' camp are like, hey, we're done with it. This ain't going to happen anymore because they're probably trying to do this. So I don't think this is Jaden Daniels personally saying, I don't like what they're doing to me.

1:09:18Pat McAfee:I think this is people probably around Jaden saying, we don't like what you're doing to Jaden and how you're doing it. But this does make Jaden look like an asshole, especially because of how great that Joey Burrow LSU football is. They were talking about maybe the greatest of all time, the greatest run of all time and everything like that. But I don't think this was a Jaden Daniels decision. I believe this is probably people around Jaden saying, hey, our guy deserves a little bit more respect than what you're giving him. And on that note, I appreciate them going to bat for him, but everybody's going to talk about how stupid this looks for Jaden.

1:09:45Yeah, and I also, like, immediately when I saw it, I was kind of on that side. I was like, yeah, this doesn't look great or whatever. Then I dug into it a little bit, and I saw a tweet out there, too. There's been three Heismans at LSU. Jaden is the third. The previous two, their numbers have never been worn since they won the Heismans. So he is the only Heisman that has been worn since.

1:10:05Pat McAfee:Which, once again, goes to, like, the people around him saying, you deserve a little bit more respect down there, especially if they're going to be using you to sell stuff. Right. So I can understand the team saying that for Jaden. but inevitably the way this gets framed publicly is that Jaden looks like a yeah it does and I don't think that's I don't think that is how this would go personally just from experiencing similar type situations with people who are potentially told by people hey this can happen it's gonna be easy no problem okay and then it happens and it's like I didn't know that's what I was signing up I don't know if this is what happened but I am hypothesizing that this is how this took place around Jaden Daniels if I'd I'm pretty sure as a player who was recruited by Brian Kelly, right?

1:10:46Like he was already there before Lane Kiffin got there. So for him, he should also have a gripe with Brian Kelly more than anything because he won the Heisman with the Brian Kelly team. And then as soon as he leaves, Brian Kelly promises that number to a recruit that probably didn't maybe deserve it. He could obviously go on and be a fantastic player. But that's the other part of it is like Brian Kelly and the state of his recruiting was basically him just promising anything the world to some of these guys.

1:11:14Pat McAfee:Yeah, he's not the only one. I mean, we did see him doing this number here, but we've heard some voice memos. Baby, baby, baby, oh! You remember that, AJ? I do remember that. My brain kind of blocked that out, but I'm glad you guys brought it back. I will always remind you that that exists in college football because we have to remember that, that there is some interesting things that have been done in the past to get a player to either come or act like you want a player to come. Inevitably, that player I don't even think went that way. Well, you remember when that kid made Dan Lanning travel all the way up to wherever the hell he was at, and they jumped in the pool together, and then the kid decommitted like four weeks later or something like that?

1:11:52Pat McAfee:And Dan Lanning just says, hey, charge us to the game. Yeah, whatever. Charge us to the game. Let's keep going. That has to be the case. We'd like to let Jayden Daniels know we do think that you should get more respect, especially if they're going to use your NIL to sell stuff. but also whoever's around him saying that this is the right way to go about doing this, you kind of set them up to look – you're kind of a social media admin. You're kind of a social media admin here without thinking about what the actual other side of this is going to look like potentially if they want to frame it in a way.

1:12:22Pat McAfee:Jaden looks like an unselfaware doofus here, and I don't think that's the case at all. I think he's worried about Ball. Exactly. He's got a lot of shit on his plate right now. He's got a new offensive coordinator. If they don't have a good year this year, then it's going to start getting into the, hey, when they went to the NFC Championship, was that a Fouguese? What's his deal? I doubt right now where we stand with the season this close that he's waking up in the middle of the night every night and being like, they haven't retired my fucking jersey yet at LSU. I cannot sit with this. So I think you're right, but it is unfortunate that that is the first thing that people go to is just like this guy's a pouting, whiny asshole and he needs to shut up.

1:12:58Pat McAfee:Well, and then as soon as his name comes up on the decision-making list, it's the only thing you think of right now. I mean, obviously we're a daytime daily show, so there's always news happening. But all in my mind I'm thinking about is, man, Jaden's team, I think, kind of walked them into this. They could have handled this a different way. Pat White, he's getting his number finally retired at West Virginia this year, which was a cool moment to be a part of. I'm happy for him. There's a kid wearing five right now on the team. And Pat literally in the moment being announced as things retiring, he's like, you could definitely wear it until you're done here or whatever, you know.

1:13:27Pat McAfee:So that was like a cool moment. I think that would have been a cool way to kind of go about doing it as opposed to a full thing. But, hey, every once in a while, you got to get those lawyers to type something up to kind of scare the shit out of people. Exactly. Yes, you do. Exactly. You do. But I don't know if Coach Orwell is going to be scared. No. Tell them we'll go over it. They also probably – every Heisman in the history of college football has probably had their number retired on the spot. Not on the spot, but there probably is like a little bit of respect at least paid. Yeah. You know, like – You win the Heisman.

1:13:58I understand. Like, if you win the Heisman, they probably should retire your number. Don't you think?

1:14:02Pat McAfee:Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It's a big deal. Yeah, I think so. You don't have to do it instantly, but yes, I understand. Like, yeah, if a guy wins the Heisman, I would be reluctant to give that number out again. But I do appreciate the fact that whoever was trying to make Jaden look like a little baby in this whole thing was like, he thinks he deserves to be treated like Joe Burrow. Okay, that LSU team. Yeah, that's the line. That was an angle. That was like, okay, let's bury Jaden. He thinks he's B-U-R-R-E-A-U-X. That's who he thinks he is? I don't think so. Okay, let's move along. The reason why we got to that conversation is because a quarterback guru did it again.

1:14:38Pat McAfee:He did. He put out his Bible. You know, I wouldn't call it a Bible because I don't want to disrespect this man's faith. But he put out his quarterback Bible, his official rankings and ratings, not just in one particular aspect, but in a litany of them. Who's the best at what? This guy will tell you. Ladies and gentlemen, he's on TV from 7 a.m. to 1 a.m. Every single day of football season. And your favorite football genius had the chest out today. Yeah, he did. Fresh off a nice vacay. Looks like he's big. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Olofsky. Hello!

1:15:18Pat McAfee:What's up? How are you guys? Just got to wake up and keep putting in the hard work, man. What's up? Just got to. What's up, man? Just, are your habits a par today? Do you got part habits today? Or do you got dreams for tomorrow? Okay, Dan? Get that tattooed. I think that's a Nick Saban quote. Might be John Gordon, to be honest. I'd like to let John Gordon know. Thanks for the text. John Gordon had been reading everything that was being said to me. Sends me a nice fire-up text yesterday morning. I won't let him know. That got me going. Legend. Quoted Gandhi to me in the middle of a thing. I'm like, hell yeah, I heard that guy's big deal.

1:15:55Pat McAfee:So thank you for that, John. Let's talk about you being a big deal whenever it comes to ranking things. uh we can kind of just say okay to most of them decision making people are pretty upset about you the way you went down i think the jordan love piece is probably a conversation because i think a lot of people think late late in the season well i'm just i was about to say shut up for a second i was literally about to say it late in the season he doesn't play his best ball he plays his worst ball i think in our minds we see him throwing up like a punt to somebody at some point because we haven't seen as many of those situations now on the flip side of that la floor came out and said this guy's the best at my offense that i've ever been around and i think you feel the same way there's been a lot of reactions to your decision making decisions uh why do you think you put this order like this and who do you think has gotten the most amount of shit that doesn't deserve it is it jordan love that is ranked up there as your number three decision maker in the nfl yeah i would assume jordan when i put jordan three there i figured that would ruffle some feathers um but the evidence is the evidence not only in the tape you know and i last year consistently said how much more mature he was playing how much he developed when it came to his decision making i think everyone probably pays attention to like the interception against the panthers i think that he had one time last year where it's like you know it's an awful decision I think Jordan was one of the most efficient quarterbacks in football last year.

1:17:23Jordan Love, unequivocally, was one of the best decision makers in football last year. And that's one of the reasons why if you look at the touchdowns and sacks or interceptions and sacks and you combine them, you want that number to be significantly lower than your touchdowns. I think Jordan's last year was, you know, something of high 20 touchdowns or mid 20 touchdowns. And if you combine the sacks and interceptions, he's somewhere around like 18, I want to say. So that's a very good ratio when it comes to quarterbacking. And the decisions that are asked, it's not only making good decisions, it's how many stressful decisions do you have to make?

1:18:06Is your offense crazy easy to operate or is your offense very detailed and intricate? And so I don't have any problem with Jordan Love at three. I think he was one of the best decision makers in football last year.

1:18:19Pat McAfee:Okay. And obviously got Patrick Mahomes on any list down that low. People are going to say this guy's genius, next goat. So having him that low is ridiculous in any part, especially when it comes to decision making. But you're saying he's a playmaker. He does this. Jalen Hurts just got absolutely dunked on by his own social media team yesterday. Nobody needs that. Lamar Jackson's QBR, like best of all time at one point, right? especially over there in Baltimore with what everybody talked about. I appreciate you having Matthew Stafford and Josh Allen at the top, especially with how people thought Josh Allen was kind of a bonehead at the beginning of his career.

1:18:49Pat McAfee:Now he's making good decisions. Let's go to arm strength here because there's a name missing that obviously has been able to spin it for a long, long time. I think I agree on all this. Okay, I do, but there's a name missing from this one. And then also, can you go to mechanics real quick? Okay, so Connor said this happened. And Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a good form throwing a football. Is that real? He's 100 years old. And last year he had the longest throw in the NFL last year. So he's over 40, still throwing the ball further than everybody else, which you don't have him on the arm strength thing, which I think is acceptable because obviously people do that.

1:19:25Pat McAfee:But in the mechanics game, is this because he's immunized? Is this because he's at? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is that what this is? Not represented by? What do you mean Aaron Rodgers doesn't have good mechanics? I don't think I fully understand what that means. He's 100 years old, still in the NFL. On that note, why did you put this list together the way you did? Mechanics, I would say I've kind of felt for a couple years that Aaron just is so unique in his throwing that it just is. I don't think there's anybody else who throws the football and has for a long time like Aaron from that mechanical standpoint.

1:20:05And so I kind of put him in his own little category. Well, I didn't see that on the list. I didn't see that.

1:20:12Pat McAfee:I want to let you know, we did a top five returners list, and we had Devin Hester actually on the thing saying he's in his own category. Feels like you when you type this up on ESPN.com. I don't see anywhere in there Aaron Rodgers has his own category. I don't see that anywhere. We lost him. That's Fachi. That's Fachi. Can you still hear me? Yeah, I said this. No, it's Fachi. That's what you said. There's a little bit of... Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah, he's Fachi. Wanting to get certain names. Like, not certain names. Trying to give everybody a little bit of shine at some point. Don't like that.

1:20:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, I don't love that. So, handouts? Yeah, they are dandouts. No, it's not handouts. It's just... Yeah. I've said this. there's a lot of really good quarterbacks. There's more than 10 really good quarterbacks. And you're trying to shine light or he preys on not just the same 10 names, but the mechanics one was just Aaron is just - This list has got no integrity. There's nothing we should read from this. No integrity. These are a bunch of Dan doubts. This is the Dan wagon kind of hopping on a bunch of different guys. How can I get 30 quarterbacks in here that think I said something nice about them?

1:21:27Pat McAfee:Okay. Now that we understand that, we understand that, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm sure Aaron will understand. That's not true. What? That's what you just said? Oh, we lost him. All right, Dan, thank you so much. Come on, Dano. He's made the list. Yeah. Multiple. Yeah. I would like to ask Dan, as a quarterback, what is the number one trait? He had five traits he listed, right? What would you want to be number one at? Let's call him back. I think decision-making probably in there. I think accuracy, ball placement, I guess as Dan put it. Yeah, I think they all matter, right? They do. The mechanics take into account footwork as well, because I know you always say you've got to mirror your feet to your arm and all that stuff.

1:22:08I wonder if that takes it.

1:22:09Pat McAfee:And I don't think I'd fully comprehend why he would say Aaron is so unique. It's because he's mastered all of it? Is that what it is? Like his quick release? We can't fathom the brain on this man. We can't dive in to his reasoning because it's so asinine. We work with a guy who's the exact same way in D-Bone. You can't go into their brains because it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, well, Dan Orlovsky has a lot of good takes, and he certainly took a lot of time to piece this together. But I just don't know how – he's 50 years old. He's still – So slinging the football. How far did he throw it last year was the longest throw?

1:22:47Pat McAfee:I think 69 yards. 69.8 yards as a 40-year-old? I assume his mechanics are pretty good. I would just assume that's the case. because, like, you know, golfing, throwing, kicking, punting, you know, longevity and power and stuff comes from your mechanics being, like, sound and perfect. So, it's just, you know, but right now we're carrying Aaron Rodgers' water. We're just pointing out some things for you. 69.8 yards in the air this throw. He's 40-plus years old at this thing. I'd assume his mechanics are A-okay. Probably better than ever now. How about his arm strength? You take into account that he's almost half a hundred while he's doing this entire thing.

1:23:26Pat McAfee:Is that what Danort? We don't know because Dan's doing dandouts and doing the dandouts. Exactly. So we get all worked up over it. This is what he wants. He's kind of the puppet master, isn't he? Yeah, I don't like that one bit. I mean, even Stafford on that. How's Stafford fourth? Yeah. What are we talking about? Yeah, where is it? Yeah, true. That's a great question. I mean, I do get the top three. Yeah, I mean, there is levels to this entire thing. Caleb Williams has a gigantic arm. I think that saved his ass a lot last year. I mean, he had a couple throws like this that's just like outrageous on a line.

1:24:04Pat McAfee:So if you go strictly just how fast can he throw a football, J.J. McCarthy should be on here. He should. Yeah. J.J. McCarthy should be on here. But ladies and gentlemen, join us now live from a garage, Dan Orleski. Hey, Dano! There's the actual Dan Wagon right behind there. Working on the truck. Yeah, hold on. Whose garage is this? In the workshop. Whose garage is this that you're in right now? It is my garage. No way. Okay. Ranch is in there? No way. It's a movie set. Yeah, you're turning ranch in there, brother? Holy hell. This is the top of my Jeep. Oh, really? So this is like a lifter that lifts.

1:24:41That's a cool garage, Dan. It's a lifter. Where's your toolbox?

1:24:44Pat McAfee:It's right. Hey, I think it's probably down around there. The toolbox is right there. Tool belt. You got a tool belt you wear around? I do not have a tool ball set. I'm going around, no. It could be Tim the tool man out here, bro. Dan the tool man. A lot of kids' toys, a lot of sports stuff, a lot of lacrosse sticks, lattice. Okay, okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Let's move along here. We appreciate your garage. Way to appear as if you do stuff in there. I think that's going to up your cred, especially with the nice trim-shaved chest with the fresh tan. Yeah. Today you really killed it on TV.

1:25:13Pat McAfee:Michael Scott in the warehouse. Yeah, you look good. Yes, exactly. You look good on TV today. I will say welcome back to all of it. We were cooking you there for a while while we couldn't connect you. Of course. I mean, I'm sure you saw it. Aaron Rodgers had the longest completion last year, 69.8 yards. You don't have him on the arm strength thing. I'd assume you'd have to have good mechanics to be able to throw the ball that far still at this age. You don't have him on the mechanics thing. Decision making, he's literally trying to slice it. Whatever the case, we understand that there's going to be some quarterbacks left out, especially the oldest one that is still playing and is back with his coach on that note let's talk about tonight what are you looking forward to this evening what can we learn from any of these games dano obviously packers and stealers you got jordan love playing so we'll see what the floor is able to do across the board joey burrow's playing we think that's probably because the bangles are trying to start a little bit faster this year versus years past and then as you see cam ward with dayball for the first time what are your thoughts here on tonight's slate and what are you looking into yeah there's two games that really matter to me the one that matters the most and most important to me would be the Cardinals Raiders.

1:26:14I firmly believe that if Carson Beck goes out and performs again, the way he did in the hall of fame game and just looks and produces and operates in that same fashion, the Cardinals just have to have a long conversation about, you know, maybe changing what their plan might have been. You go into it saying we want to sit our young quarterback, Carson Beck. We're not going to be a team that contends this year. We are building for the future, but if he goes out and just operates and plays as quick as he did in the Hall of Fame game, I just think you have to sit and change the way you talk about it because it looks a little bit or it felt a little bit like, you know, the Dak Prescott stuff in the preseason or, you know, Russell Wilson in the preseason where you have maybe a certain expectation and then that expectation or plan could change because of the performance.

1:27:04So there and then with Fernando Mendoza, just the ease that he may look like playing tonight. I want to see, that's the word that I've gone into for tonight with Mendoza is ease, ease in and out of the huddle, ease at the line of scrimmage, ease handling the formations and the motions and the shifts, ease under center and the operation of maybe some of the play action stuff and getting him on the move. And so, and then if it, if there's a moment of frustration or adversity, just does that speed him up or does, is he able to kind of play slow, like not slow, bit in control the way he did in college and then i'd probably say the connection that i'm most interested paying attention tonight is cam warden and carnell tate i think the titans can be sneaky just competitive this year um you know but how good the step near two for cam ward is and really the attachment to carnell tate you see the social media clips from tennessee it's he looks to be every bit the part of that number one wide receiver.

1:28:06If that can be like a really prominent connection, the defensive line in Tennessee can be awesome this year. Everyone knows Robert Conlon has a good defense. Awesome. And so I just think that if that duo is impressive tonight, it starts to kind of vault Tennessee into a conversation of a team that's just going to be really difficult to contend with.

1:28:33Pat McAfee:Yeah, I can have the whole combo about Tennessee this year that we had about Carolina last year. Like, hey, that's a good football team. That's a good football team. I don't think anybody is inside the Tennessee Titans locker room. They should be expecting to win a Super Bowl, but I don't think anybody's expecting Tennessee Titans to win a Super Bowl. I think all anybody wants to see that is around the Titans and us included because how much we love the city of Nashville and how close it is, it's like, let's just show like we're a good football team. Let's just be a good football team out here.

1:28:58Pat McAfee:You've got Salah. You've got Dayball. You've got Cam Ward. You've got Carnell Tate. Jeffrey Simmons is outrageous. I mean, there's a chance for real. Mondale Robinson. Yeah, and also new stadium, new facility. I mean, they've got a lot of good stuff coming there. Hopefully they can piece it together, and maybe tonight is a little bit of a showcase of that. Titans and Niners, four fights in one practice this week. No big deal. Already in joint practice. Ten minutes. Let's assume that tonight could get a little fiery, and then let's go back to your Raiders conversation. I was watching Inside Training Camp live last night with Chris Rose and Michael Robinson.

1:29:29Pat McAfee:And Michael Robinson, I want to let him know the length of his dreads at this, awesome. I mean, they sit like they are. My first time seeing him in, I don't know, what, six months, maybe a year? I don't think I've seen him enough. Now that hopefully we're working together a little bit more with the NFL Network ESPN thing that we got going on. Shout out to Baldy yesterday. But he said he was at Raiders practice, and he said, coming out of Fernando's hand, it looks really good. He said the checks at the line look very good. He was like, Fernando looks very much the part of NFL quarterback, and I can't wait for that to happen, Dan Orlovsky, whether that's tonight, week one, week four, week six.

1:30:11Pat McAfee:We need you in that garage with that top of that Jeep bashing you in the head about what's going to happen whenever it takes place. Sounds good, Dano? Sounds like a plan? Yeah, I mean, I don't love the bashing of the head, But, you know, if Fernando ends up being a really, really, really good player, I'm sure you'll be the first person to call me. Yeah, alive. Yeah, yeah. It'll be live on air. Okay, let's talk about some other things happening around the league. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Dano, maybe it is Cam Ward and Brian Dayball, but what kind of new quarterback OC duo are you most looking forward to?

1:30:46Daniel Jeremiah was on here talking about McDaniel and Herbert, how great that's looking. I know Declan Doyle, Lamar, Goff, Petsing is another. What is kind of the new duo that you see having a lot of success and you're excited to watch? Yeah, definitely McDaniel and Herbert. I think Justin Herbert should be in the MVP conversation this year well into December and could have his best season. If you think about Mike McDaniel and just that offense, right? That offense has often been with a quarterback that is based upon anticipation and like touch layer throws and maybe physically stature isn't the most impressive player.

1:31:28He's had Tua, who's been that ball placement guy. There's been Jimmy Garoppolo, ball placement guy, a little bit, maybe not as strong as an arm, it's an average arm. And so the quarterback, Brian Hoyer in Cleveland, I believe, was there when Mike McDaniel was there. So these quarterbacks that aren't the physical dominant specimen that Justin Herbert is. and now you have this coach that has had to kind of build the offense around that style of player with a quarterback that is made of a lab out of a lab and he is six foot six he is 240 pounds he has an absolute cannon for an arm and he's a freak athlete and so my brain goes to okay the quarterback's gonna have to adjust a little bit to how he plays in some of those layered throws We've talked about that.

1:32:22But then it's, well, how does the play caller and the offensive coordinator and the guy who's designing the offense, does he alter a little bit? And I think if both of those guys can really get to a little bit of a, I guess, compromise, but really high level of understanding of, okay, the quarterback's great at this stuff. Let's build all of our stuff like that. And then this play caller really needs this out of me. I think this could be one of the better offenses in the league, and the quarterback could be absolutely in the MVP conversation.

1:32:56Pat McAfee:Cannot wait to see the Chargers fan base get to experience that. They've been through a lot, man. A lot of heartbreaks over there. Tough years. A lot of turnover, a lot of new transition, a lot of, oh, we should be good, and hopefully this is the year that they do that. Let's pivot from them to the NFC North. Obviously, a huge decision was made yesterday. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Dano, I don't think anyone was really surprised that Kyler got the nod as starting quarterback, but what did you take from that whole thing? And ultimately, do you think, is J.J. McCarthy's time done in Minnesota? And would any other team even want to trade for him at this point?

1:33:28Well, I think in Minnesota, it's the easiest place to play quarterback in the NFC outside of maybe L.A. So this is teed up for Kyler Murray to rebuild his career. You're talking about a pass-catching group that is in the conversation for the best in the conference. And if you include the tight end, TJ Hawkinson, absolutely. Three really good and proven receivers and Hawkinson. You're going to have a top 10 offensive line. You're going to have a top 10 run game. You got a coach and a play call on Kevin O 'Connell. That's one of the very best in the NFL doing it. And then you got a defense that is going to be in that top five conversation.

1:34:06All you need to do if you're Kyler Murray is not be bad. And think about that, the context of that. That's how easy your situation and setup is right now.

1:34:14Pat McAfee:before yeah actually i think the vikings don't get better yeah i understand i understand you like in respect to hello kevin o 'connell which we certainly do we certainly do dude they were nine and eight last year with bad quarterback play if they get good quarterback play which kyler's shown to do plenty of times throughout his career amen yeah you're looking at a team that should be a 10-win, 11-win team. Absolutely. And so, yeah, I think that it's teed up for Kyler. I think the biggest challenge, I think there's two things. Deep into the football world, number one, Kyler just has not been a guy that has excelled throwing these crossing routes, these horizontal routes from one side of the field to the other.

1:35:00It's a big part of this offense in Minnesota. He's led the NFL in interceptions over the past four seasons on that type of route. So that's going to have to be the big step for Kyler. I think the challenge for Kevin O 'Connell is going to be in these play-action pass protections, which is a big part of their offense, part of it is you're trying to build in some of these passing lanes. And I think the way that Kevin O 'Connell is able to maybe tweak some of their play-action pass protections to build in passing lanes to promote Kyler's vision and give him clear lanes to see through, I think is going to be just the interesting part from how much that offense, maybe from the protection standpoint, changes to allow Kyler to see and really hit some of those crossers.

1:35:53Pat McAfee:Is there a passing window thing that KOC has to create for Kyler? Did Sean Payton do that for Drew Brees or did Drew Brees have to find those? Bingo, bingo. Bingo, that's the exact example. I remember multiple times. Take a bow, take a bow. That's it. I'm telling, I remember multiple times doing touchscreens on that, of being like, think about it from this perspective. The starting point when Drew was under center, tackle to tackle or tackle to tight end is, let's call it seven or eight yards, right? The width. that's going to be a very shrunk down space for a quarterback to see and then with the play action and where you launch or set the quarterback up you can create a two or three yard wide passing lane for the quarterback to see and so sean payton was great at that would and part of it is and it's part of it is like where the double team goes to aq would know this really well and so like yeah that's going to be the challenge when you're trying to do some of that stuff is building in those passing lanes for the quarterbacks in that play action.

1:37:02Sean Payton, I think, was probably the best I've seen at it.

1:37:04Pat McAfee:Pretty good back flexibility and strength as you were kind of trying to find those windows there. Hey, he's coming back good, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Dan Olovsky might have tanned up. Looks good. A lot of gray in that hair. I dusted off an old take there. Dude, I'm so gray. He did dust off the old. If they get an average quarterback play, they're going to be in the NFC Championship. That was last year. We just ran that back. but every once in a while you do have to go into the bin and say, hey, this is still true. Throw that one right down the pipe there, which we respect and appreciate because we will now act like that is gospel like everybody does, especially with your Daned Out and Dan Wagon list that you made for ESPN.com.

1:37:41Pat McAfee:Let's go down to New Orleans. Obviously, big conversation could be happening around them with a man with an oversized leather helmet on his head, AP Tone. Thank you. Appreciate it. I can see it now. They're saying they look like a medieval soldier here. You look like you're about to get on the horse and do the first. Yeah, bingo. Yeah, I'd be much higher ranked. I would have the full face shield, but that's fine. Dan, reports coming out of Saints and Jags. They joined practice today. Is that Shuck and the Saints offense just kind of manhandled the Jags? That's kind of what we've been hearing all training camp.

1:38:14And how do you feel about the Saints offense this year with Alave and Jordan Tyson and all the weapons that they currently have? yeah this is an offense that is young and talented and obviously the addition of uh travis a-chan um you know brings an element of you know certainly the physical run game but also he's a guy that you want to get the ball to because he's so difficult to tackle the biggest thing for me in new orleans is can those two receivers stay really healthy huge fan of Olave so happy he got his cash he's had some injuries in his past so fingers crossed that he can stay healthy and then you know Tyson dropped I guess a little bit because of some of the injuries of his stuff and so if those two players because the two thing or the thing that those two guys do so well is they they are elite route runners you know Olave's always been one of those just savvy, nuanced, clean route runners that can just get open.

1:39:17And then Tyson's the same way. Johnson, the tight end, is a really nice player with his big frame. And so I'm not as bullish on the Saints as some other people. I like the Bucs and the division. But I do think that there's a lot of young talent on this offense. And Tyler Shuck going into year two. If the offensive line plays a little bit better, Kellen Moore should have a very good offense.

1:39:40Pat McAfee:Last question from AJ here about tonight. Yeah, Dana, when we hear people talk about these quarterbacks aren't facing much when they face a preseason defense, it's very vanilla. I guess, can you contrast what that's like as a quarterback facing a preseason defense versus a regular season defense with everything in the playbook and in the game plan? Yeah, it's very different regular season to preseason. In preseason, you're seeing a lot of like one or two coverages. And those one or two coverages are your basic zones and or mans. And you're not getting a ton of disguise of what that coverage could be or potentially could be.

1:40:16And then there's the variance of that coverage, AJ, right? So, you know, I'll go to Carson Beck last week. A lot of the coverage he saw was your traditional like covered three where, you know, the corners have the deep third. the safety has a deep third and those underneath defenders are what they are and then there's the cover threes that are covered three carry cover three match cover three cloud and so um the the you're not going to see the very the variety of those even that one coverage in the preseason like you will in the regular season um and you're not going to get your protections attacked by certain pressures and blitzes and so that's why these joint practices are such a big deal i think that's why you know i've been a part of preseason games where coaches will go to the opposing coach and ask that opposing coach to do certain stuff against the offense to see how they handle it hey coach can when we get into these looks can you bring us all kinds of pressures or defensive line games we're trying to see how good we are at it so um it's a it's a different world regular season coverage-wise in comparison to preseason.

1:41:29It's night and day.

1:41:30Pat McAfee:Yeah, so people are saying you shouldn't be judging a Hall of Fame game maybe on what the regular season is, but we get a chance to maybe see tonight. That's right. If Carson Beck can do it a little bit more, or if Jacoby Brissett is ready. I mean, they're paying him to be a starter. He looked great for that team last year, held them together. Can't wait to see him as we kick off this preseason officially this evening. This is Tan Orlovsky, the internet's saying. Not just Dan Orlovsky. Dan, how do you feel? Last thing here, quickly. we have a team ride that we're doing this evening. It's called The Old Bull and the Young Calf.

1:41:59Pat McAfee:Two-plus team passing TDs for the Raiders tonight. Odds are plus 170. Obviously, if you're of age and agreed to gamble responsibly and not like an asshole, we'd love for you to come join us on the best sports book on earth. Draft Kings, how do you feel about this, Dano? Obviously, it's a preseason game, so let's not be crazy. We have no idea what's going to happen. But I feel like Kirko and Nando, right? Right? So this means if they throw, they have to throw three for the win. No. Two plus. Just two. Just two. Yeah, yeah. No, I like this. I like this. I like this. I like this. Just Clint Kubiak, offensive guy.

1:42:35You're going to get a keeper touchdown pass in this game by one of those two guys. So, yeah, I like this. Okay, okay. Now, responsibly. We like this responsible amount.

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1:44:09Pat McAfee:We'll get you back here in a second. We're a part of a big announcement now, which we are incredibly lucky. Now, since the beginning of the Big Three, I feel like we've actually kind of had a bit of a relationship with the entire operation. We've seen it become a live event every single time and every single venue that they stop at. This weekend, they actually have their semifinals happening. It's the penultimate weekend for the Big Three this weekend down there in Dallas. You know, we've got the Ball Hogs taking on triplets. Go. Now, the Boston Ball Hogs are a damn good team. Yep. They don't have the best record there remaining.

1:44:44Pat McAfee:You know who that belongs to? Who's that? Oh, that's the Dallas Power. They're 71. They're coached by who? Nancy Lieberman. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, have you ever heard of her? I think you have. And then, obviously, the Miami 305 are the reigning champs. They currently only have a 4-4 record, but obviously this is when the lights are the brightest. They're ready to go. Joining us now is the founder of the league, and I believe he's going to be making an announcement about who won their coach of the year. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. him music icon movie icon uh sports icon ladies and gentlemen american dream story straight out of compton plays gem ice cube yay how you doing man what's happening with you man how are you doing brother how's life over there for you oh it's great man big three playoff time man that's what it's all about i know we got the uh ball hogs taking on the triplets we got the miami 305 the reigning champs obviously taking on the uh Dallas power seven and one with Nancy Lieberman congratulations on another successful season what are you most excited about with this year as opposed to years past with the big three and what should we look forward to this weekend down there in Dallas oh man I'm excited you know that we get you know more basketball right before football kicks in you know uh some meaningful games you know this season has been great you know that the big three is taking a leap forward.

1:46:11You know, we also go in public if you, you know, want to spend some of that money, you know, D-O-N-T, you know, three on three. And, you know what I mean? You could be part of this. And, you know, so I'm excited about, you know, not only, you know, coming down to the stretch with the best teams in the league, but, you know, what the league has in the future, you know, it's great to be a part of, you know the the uptick of the big three hell yeah and obviously the olympics anytime there's

1:46:42Pat McAfee:three-on-three basketball conversation uh we would like our big three guys to be conversated about we don't want all their uh logistical bullshit rules to keep the best three-on-three players out of the olympics we'll speak for you ice cube so you don't have to get into a war with them again uh congratulate yep you got you got you and then also we got a celebrity game i believe this weekend ocho's playing in this thing cannot wait to see how he plays he's obviously freak athlete I like what you're doing, man. Every live, every game that you have, every round that you have is a full-on live event.

1:47:12Pat McAfee:And I appreciate you making it a good time. Can you talk a little bit about the celebrity game that's taking place? And is Ocho about the win? Or is Gilly? No. Gilly's the guy. Yeah, Gilly's the guy. Gilly, come on. He's our three-time MVP. Yeah. You know, him and Wallow, when they get together, you know, he put the batteries in his back. And they're going to come out. You know, last year, he didn't win it. So, you know, he's coming out for his fourth. Of course, Ocho is out there, you know, which is great. You know, we got Dakota, Daylon Gonzalez playing, you know, which is cool. MD Motivator.

1:47:51And Key Glock is going after Gilly, from what I understand.

1:47:56Pat McAfee:Okay. Good luck, Gilly. Anytime you got Key Glock on that ass, you know, it could be a potential problem. I think you have an announcement to make about this particular season, and we're honored to be a part of this. Ice Cube, if you want to make an announcement on who the coach – remember, the coaches in the Big Three, all icons. Literally all icons across the board. It's a lot of the game given back to the game in the Big Three. And we have an announcement to make here, a coach of the year for the Big Three. Ice Cube, who won that? The coach of the year is Gary the Glove Payton. Wow! You know, he's a day one Big Three alumni.

1:48:35He's been there from day one to this day now. And he's always in the playoffs, always find himself. He's a champion in the Big Three with the Bivouac a few years back. And now he got the Boston Ball Hogs in the playoffs for the first time in league history. So, well-deserved.

1:48:55Pat McAfee:Hey, let's welcome, ladies and gentlemen, the coach of the year from the Big Three. Basketball icon. Hall of Fame shit talker. Ladies and gentlemen, the glove, the coach of the Boston Ball Hogs, Gary Payton. Congrats, dude. Congratulations, man. Coach of the year. I mean, it was just a couple years ago. It felt like you were going to fight an entire Big Three team. I forget what that was. Now you're coach of the year. Congratulations, glove. This is awesome. How do you feel about the big three and where it's at now versus maybe a couple years ago? Well, Pat, you know what? Ever since Ice Cube had asked me to coach in it nine years ago, you know, man, Ice Cube was really tight.

1:49:36And, you know, I stay with him because I know this is going to work and it has worked. And, you know, what Ice Cube has let me do is he let me be me. You know, he let me pick the guys I wanted to pick. They sometimes say that I picked the wrong guys. But, you know, I always bring a team to the playoffs. I done brought three different teams to the playoffs. You know, I win when I get there. I just get the guys that I know that I can coach and they'll play like me. And I'm very happy to have this honor. Thanks. And I thank Big Three. You know, this is a league that I want to coach in and do the things that I do.

1:50:12And everybody, hey, looking forward to the Big Three this weekend, because we're going to have some two good games. is going to be really, really exciting.

1:50:19Pat McAfee:Well, good luck to the Boston Ball Hogs as they continue and your third team that you've brought to the playoffs in the Big Three. You talked about people saying you picked the wrong people. Sounds like you picked the right people for your culture. I couldn't even imagine a Gary Payton team culture. That would be fucking awesome. I want to let you know I think I would fit in in your culture. I do believe that is something I would like to do, Gary. I would like to say that. That's me complimenting myself. But I do think I would like to ride alongside the glove in something. Well, Pat, you know what?

1:50:46All you got to do is come out out to the combine. Matter of fact, I'll make you one of the captives, man. So you come out there and do what you got to do, man. I think you fit in, too.

1:50:54Pat McAfee:Okay, I like that a lot. But you got to remember the coaches here in the Big Three. We got Clyde Drexler. We got Dr. J. You got Nancy Lieberman. You got Gary Payton. Ice Cube. I think you have done a, what's that, like a pointed, a focused, I think you've done a focused job on keeping the legends of basketball involved with the Big Three. I don't want to speak for you, but why is that so important for your big three? And why are people like Gary Payton such a big deal for you in your league? I mean, we learn so much from them. Not only are they our heroes, but they give the league so much credibility.

1:51:30You know, when a guy like Gary Payton is around for nine, ten years, a guy like Dr. J, Clyde Drexler, our commissioner here for so long, It just gives us credibility that we're headed in the right direction and we're doing something right to keep these legends around, focused, and wanting to win in the big three. So what's great about Gary Payton winning this award and all our awards is voted on by the players and coaches. The league has no say in that. You know, it's, you know, really an honor of his peers letting him know how they feel about him. And that's how it should be, and that's how it is in the Big Three.

1:52:17Pat McAfee:That's awesome that Ice Cube's giving you a$5 million bonus for winning the Coach of the Year as well, Gary. Man who's a Boston Boggs fan has the last question for you guys. Yeah, Ice Cube, Russell Westbrook just retired. Is that something where you're going to reach out directly and be like, hey, come on over, keep playing ball? Or do you give them some time and then wait and see if they want to join the Big Three? we'll give him a week but you know people want to see him play you know regardless if you know he plays in the nba or not you know people want to see him play he still has millions of fans who would love to see him you know come out and play in the big three not only him but a lot of players that are superstars out here in the world of basketball, why not give the fans what they want?

1:53:08It's a league. You're around your peers. You're around greatness being a part of the Big Three. It's fun, and why not keep it going?

1:53:18Pat McAfee:We can make a little money, do a little impact, make a little magic happen here as well. I think that's all a good thing for retired players. Gary, last question for me. What is the style of player that's best for three-on-three, Big Three basketball. Like, obviously, you have to shoot, but it feels like every time I watch, there's a lot of mid-range, and we're getting grimy underneath. It's a lot more defense, I think, than people would imagine three-on-three. What does your team look like, and what does a good big three player look like? Well, but y 'all don't understand yet, Pat, and then Cube don't.

1:53:44I'm already recruited Westbrook already. Don't worry about it. Put it on the ticket. I'm recruiting already, you know what I'm saying? But no, Pat, what we do is it's a grind, and I think that's what Q grew up on. Q grew up on the Magic Johnson days and all them type of days. You remember when he made his song, Super Son, he's playing the Lakers and stuff like that. We grind up in the big three. I get guys who are going to play gritty. They're going to play defense. People don't understand it's harder to play defense in three-on-three basketball than on five-on-five basketball because there's a lot of help on five-on-five.

1:54:21With three-on-three, you got to be accountable for your man. If he get beat, there's no help on the weak side. It's none of that. You got to keep people in front and then you got to be grinding and rough and i think this is what our league is about our league is about being competitive and doing great things but what's a great thing about it right now is everybody's coming in shape everybody is there everybody is making competitive and that's what it's all about and i think my team is gritty and grinding like

1:54:47Pat McAfee:that hey ice can you guys test for weed over there or any of the other science that i could be on hey man well you know we just worried about what's going on on the court

1:54:58we don't have rookies you know uh or guys coming straight out of college he's a grown man you know uh with with kids that they own you know they probably want to check their kids drawer i ain't

1:55:10Pat McAfee:gonna be checking there okay see you later that's how we just signed off of espn we are still live on uh digital and we appreciate you guys for joining us congrats cube on the success of this I know how much you put into this. And, Gary, this is so cool. You're giving back to basketball still and getting honored by your peers. Congratulations, boys. Thank you guys for supporting the big three, man. You know, you guys always, you know, been right there, you know, letting people know how the league is growing. We appreciate it, and we'll see you guys soon. I'll tell you what. I'm getting it. I'm on a lot of science right now, and if you guys aren't testing, that's good news.

1:55:46Pat McAfee:I'm getting in pretty good shape. I'll tell you, Gary. I got you, Pat. Hey, look, I'm going to draft you next year, man. Boom. Done. Fuck. Boom. Done deal. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, I appreciate you, boys. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Coach of the Year, Gary Payton, and Ice Cube, ladies and gentlemen. Woo. Good for them, man. Dude, congratulations. You're a Boston ball hog. Yeah, you're a Boston ball hog. We're shipping up to Boston, baby. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh. Close. I thought that was going to go in. I saw it going. But I'm all jacked up. Yeah, exactly. You just got drafted by the ball hogs.

1:56:20Number one overall pick. Oh, my God, dude. Hogs or Hawks? Hawks. Ball Hog. Safety. Corners. Yeah. Ball Hogs. You ever know because you're the glove?

1:56:32Pat McAfee:Yeah, he'll be stealing. Maybe they're the Ball Hawks next year if they don't win the title this year. Sounds like they've got multiple names. Yeah, a little rebrand. Boston Ball Hogs plays. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy that isn't drafted to the Big Three, A.J. Hawk. Idiot. Sorry, Hoggle. You better get out there shooting, man. GP, if he drafts you, you better get ready. Thank you, A.J. Yeah, man. I couldn't have said it better myself. I couldn't have said it better myself. You're right. And I know what my— Get one of those shooter machines. Get that machine that fires the back.

1:57:00We got one already. We got one. Yeah, we got one. It's in the closet.

1:57:03Pat McAfee:Turns out that's way— It's fucking huge. Way too much work. It broke. Yeah, it's— It was fun, though. Yeah, we had it for a good, like, two months. Yeah, yeah. We were really operating. I think we were going for it. Yeah, that's good. Too high maintenance. Yeah. The balls would get clogged up, and then it took up so much space. We thought we had it figured out. we're like we're all gonna have perfect jumpers yeah this thing's just gonna feed us a hundred balls a time but then after like 20 they think just stops so now you're taking unplug that thing yeah do this entire thing and all of a sudden you know what you're thinking was 10 minutes is now 25 30 minutes and then all of a sudden it's like how about i just shoot this thing yeah and i'll go get my own rebound yeah and then you know i'll do it again so i think we have been slowed down in our pursuit of perfection with our jumpers, but we've certainly put the work in.

1:57:51Pat McAfee:I don't think I should be playing in that. Darius Butler should be playing in the big three. He's an actual player. Yeah, but the glove didn't say he was going to draft Darius Butler. That's one of those things where I could just kind of do the old one. You have like a proxy. Yeah, I can't come this week. D-Bot's going to play in my stead. That's going to be first week. And then guess what else? Probably second week. Sure, true. And probably a third week as well. It's physical over there, man. debunk can handle but it is definitely physical and they're all huge you know they're they are gigantic yeah the nba guys these are all ex-nba guys and it's like good luck getting a shot off you know like that that's kind of the entire conversation it's like yeah i can stand in the thunderdome and knock down some shots for sure i mean we have a basketball court in the office so i should be able to knock down some shots getting a shot off you see that's where the problem lies you know because even if you have a step back on yourself it's like okay who are you playing against somebody at the YMCA or are you playing against a guy who's 6 '6 and he's just gonna do one of these right here in your face it's like they play real hoops over there oh yeah they're really playing from year one I like that Gary mentioned that he was like year one I think guys were trying to figure it out year two even he said now guys and guys see opportunity in this as opposed to just like hey this is a sideshow guys are really doing it and with the Olympics what I was mentioning there it's like these these guys by far win the Olympics any of these teams that they have.

1:59:11Pat McAfee:But there's like a bunch of what? The qualifiers. And tournaments that they have to go to that like none of these guys would be able to get to in their scheduling. And it is a lot of drama. Like when the Olympics come around, three-on-three hoops is going to come up and we're not going to win. No. And we are going to be very confused on how we can. We got killed last time and we had like Jimmer for debt. Yeah, I think they medaled. Yeah, got murdered. And it's because obviously three-on-three different game, but the only people that can play are the people that can show up at these different things that are timed through the calendar year.

1:59:40Pat McAfee:the way ice cube describes it is to force these guys not to be able to do it is kind of how that was kind of talked about which you can't help but believe but big three still doing it and every time it's just like a live concert event yeah so i think it's a good idea i like it great i like what he's doing i appreciate what he's doing i wonder if he's written any more movies i'm sure you gotta remember ice cube i think they are doing 23 jump street they are i believe that and he's a pretty big part of that i'm pretty sure he knows yeah really good dude he his brain just he he's got a good brain.

2:00:09Pat McAfee:He's got a very active brain, I would say. Just writing all the time. We say, oh, NWA, straight out of Compton, what an accomplishment. It's like, yeah, Friday, too. Oh, yeah. Jump Street, too. What else? Oh, he's got a fucking basketball league he runs. What else? Oh, he's being tasked and assigned to do this. Mount Westmore. Yeah, he's got another album. He's got a lot going on. I respect and appreciate the hell. His boy, now Big Time Wrestling podcast, right? With from Rich Eisen's show, TJ. I think they're doing pretty big WWE stuff. Also, same deal. He's starting to really get into the Hollywood machine and being in a bunch of movies.

2:00:47Ice Cube does have a movie in development currently called Chrome and Paint.

2:00:51Pat McAfee:And it's going to be good. Alright. Tonight, well, let's not guarantee any times. Tomorrow, the Diary of a Polarizing Figure will be out. Sometime tomorrow it'll be out. What do you mean? Sometime after 11.59pm tonight. Yeah, sometime tomorrow, this thing will be at and about. It says midnight on that thing. We might be cutting it a little bit closer. You never know. We might be cutting it a little bit closer. It might be, though. Just turn notifications on. It does help, I guess, that record labels have this shit all figured out. Yeah. Yeah, just trying to kind of figure this out in real time, uploading this stuff.

2:01:29Pat McAfee:I mean, how hard is it? Just put it up there. Let's go ahead and let it run. Well, it's got a lot of different platforms it's got to get through. Obviously, there's a bunch of coding that has to take place. well I'm giving you the lyrics just put the lyrics and they're like well the lyrics then have to be matched up to the song which has to go through an entire thing it's like well it seems like here's a lesson then all the credits also who was playing what instrument here hole my god okay let me type all these up thank you oh yeah actually Ilya can you help me out here no problem but I got you it sends it over it's like it's been a process learning the entire music industry and I'll tell you what the last step of getting it up on the platforms we're learning about in real time there you go shout to Tim wouldn't have the The Notes platform.

2:02:05Pat McAfee:Shout out to Tim from the Notes platform. In our phone? No, that's the Notes app. Not Tim Apple. That's Tim Cook, and I don't think he created the Notes app either on your iPhone or iPad. This is Tim Luckow, I believe. He's founder of the Notes platform, which is an independent artist uploading. Like Music Notes. Yes. With a K. No. No. What? Nope. Not like night. No, because you were doing night talk earlier. Got y 'all jacked up. Just an N. It's just an N-O-T-E-S. But it is a platform. And Tim over there has helped me out immensely, as are the fine folks, Seth England and the lads from Big Loud who have helped me through this entire process, which I'm very thankful for.

2:02:51Pat McAfee:But yeah, album will be out tomorrow. At some point. Tomorrow. Okay. And I need folks to learn the lyrics so they can sing alongside me whenever we come perform these live. I cannot wait for that. I assume Game Day Morning's going to be at least a song or two before. If people don't absolutely hate the songs, which I'm very proud of what these songs have become. The people that have been working on these songs are so wildly talented. It is very obvious that the musicians that played on this thing are first class. I am so grateful to all of them that lend their time and their talent to my words and my story.

2:03:31Pat McAfee:and I think what they've become is pretty sweet. I'm like very, very proud of them. I can't wait for people to hear them. You know, I've been hearing these songs, some of them for like 20 years in my head, you know, like this entire thing. So for others to be able to get a chance to hear it, I'm very excited about. And for the boys who have had to listen to this, you know, these songs and the evolution of these songs over the last couple of months, I appreciate, I appreciate. Pretty cool, yeah. I appreciate your efforts. It's been fun learning this industry. It's been fun learning these songs and it's been fun just kind of doing it all.

2:04:01Pat McAfee:I can't wait for people to hear. I'm excited for people to hear. Oh, yeah, some lyrics in there There's some lyrics in there, AJ. What, you think some people might take some offense to the lyrics to think they're talking about them? Well, if they do, that's on them. But I feel really good about the old pen. Especially after listening to a lot of the other stuff that's coming out, I feel really good about some of the stories that are told. But also, there's some really personal shit that I'm putting out there. So I've gotten to a point where I'm at peace with, like, I'm excited for you all to hear this.

2:04:31mostly because I think if I was to die,

2:04:35Pat McAfee:which is possible at any moment, my kids will be able to listen to these songs and be like, all right, we know exactly who this fucking guy was, I think. That is what this album does. So I am most excited about that. But also, I think we got some bangers. I think there's some bangers in there. I think people are going to be surprised. Had to learn how to sing through this entire process. That's been fun. You know, kind of directing your air through your vocal cords. You know, vocal cords normally a little bit. We need to tighten those things up. And then where are we sending that through? Is it going to go through your nose area?

2:05:03Pat McAfee:Is it coming through your chest? Is it back to the head? What level are we at? Can you float down that entire thing? Coach Guyton, what a beast. She's giving me, I do drills. I got like things I'm doing in the morning in the shower. It's stretching. Yeah, legit. Yeah. I feel really good about it. I feel really good about it all. I hope you will enjoy it. It'll be out sometime. There you go. Sometime after midnight. Tim is telling me, no problem. We'll get it up there. But just everything that I'm reading. We know how tech goes. Yeah, exactly. I would trust him. He seems like a trustworthy guy.

2:05:33Pat McAfee:Tim's been the man. Tim has been the no worries. Gotcha. I can tell how you talked about him originally, that he's a good guy. Yeah, very, very. Good man, if you will. He is a good man. He was – actually, we don't know anything about him as a person. Okay. We don't know if he's a good man. We assume he is with the way I have talked to him and the way he's talked to me. I think he's a great man. But, yeah, he's been super no worries, no worries, no worries. but I'm reading a lot of things and they're like, should definitely be in like maybe two weeks ago. Sure. A lot of stuff we're kind of doing over the last 48 hours.

2:06:06Pat McAfee:So maybe that's all just a bunch of bullshit. Probably. We'll find out. Yes. Hey. How many songs? I think it's going to end up being 14. Nice. Jeez. That's a good chunk. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. 14 is pretty good. How'd you know? Was there a couple on the edge that you thought about putting on that you're not that, you know, maybe later? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. We got a couple in the can, if you will. But I think 14 tell a good story. I think these songs are all in the same ilk. Yeah. Ilk of songs, if that makes sense. This particular album, The Diary of a Polarizing Figure, I think people look back and say, wow, I think we really got a chance to peek inside what this guy, what drives him, what motivates him.

2:06:47What makes him tick, as they say.

2:06:49Pat McAfee:Yeah, yeah. What he's telling himself when he's going through some shit. There's a little bit of that. His perspective is maybe on the world and what's happening in certain times. because I would head to my notes section anytime something's happening or anytime I would get like a little creative freedom. So going back through them, it's been fascinating to kind of, you know, how I was seeing things at one particular time in my life, like maybe when things were going very terrible for me and then whenever things were like maybe going pretty good and it's like pretty cool to kind of read through like what my words and thoughts are during those, you know?

2:07:17Pat McAfee:Because it's all, I think it does kind of paint a picture of exactly, I think who, I think. I think I'm explaining myself a lot in here, I think. But I think people are going to be able to relate to it. Because, I mean, we'll see. Straight from you. Straight from you, too. No filter, just your thoughts. Yeah. There's a couple of hilarious lyrics in there, too. I'm excited for people to react. There's a couple of funny ones, I feel like. A little bit of singing in there. There's one song where I sing my ass off. It took us like 30 times to get it, obviously. So we're going to be working on that one until we have to perform that one live.

2:07:51Pat McAfee:You know, we're going to try to get there. but there is some real singing in a couple of these things. Then there's a little bit of heat, you know? A little bit of heat in there. Got some big drums on a couple. Great guitar solos. I mean, we got some nasty guitar solos. Absolute face melters. Legit. I mean, there is some real... Because I think some people just assume this is going to be like a rap album, I think, because that's what a lot of ex-athletes do, you know? And it's like, no, no, no. I mean, there's certainly some rapping. Let's not get it twisted. There is some rapping in there, but we got a lot of variety of songs.

2:08:27Pat McAfee:We got rock songs. We got country songs. Island songs. So it's not like a Black Boy Max or that? No, but I do listen to his stuff. I think he's a good writer. I think he's a good writer. Darren Waller, I think he's a good writer. He's back. Obviously, yeah, congrats to Carolina Panthers signing Darren Waller. I mean, that's huge. Huge. He's going to be outrageous. I also obviously Shaq and Dion and Bobby, I think, had some. Macho man. Game Lord. Yeah. Be a man, Hulk. Yeah, exactly. So I am honored to join the athletes who have dabbled in the music world, but I do believe mine will sound a little bit different than most.

2:09:05Pat McAfee:The Rock. I think that is. He's in the world now. He is. He can sing his ass off. Obviously, we know that. Listen, kid, he can go on and on. He can explain every match on the ground. The earth, the grass, the sea. Yeah. He's been doing it a long time. You know, he grew up in Nashville. Yeah, he did. That's right. Yes, he certainly did. All right. Diary of a Polarizing Figure will be available soon. Be a friend, tell a friend. I might put out something on X for people to guess the song order. Maybe I'll put out the name of the song. I think I saw Hardy do this a couple years ago. Yeah, Bone won the contest.

2:09:40Pat McAfee:There it is, yeah. Bone won the contest. Yeah. He was able to list off the songs in the proper order. That's correct. Yeah. Six-hour drive on NFL Sunday to start the season. 13-hour drive because he's six-hour one way. You're right. Yeah, then it was six-hour back, NFL Sunday, first week. I mean, just not – Got a photo. We just got to – we got to remember how good it is. Yeah. Yeah. We're working on it. It's not helping. That was brunch with the lads. What a day, 11-1. We're back here tomorrow, 11-1. Hell, yeah. Be cool. It was a good little day, AJ. It wasn't a little early in this entire thing.

2:10:10Who's leading the St. Jude Classic? Do we know? Michael Thor Borgson is minus five with Jordan Spieth. Scott Scheffler, two under there. Spieth, though. Yeah, Spieth hasn't. Yeah, that'd be huge for him.

2:10:24Pat McAfee:Oh, Scottie's dancing. Scottie just birdied, I do believe. Yeah, Scottie just birdied. He had bogey. That's why he's still two under. And then Rory just bogeyed as well. And Rory flew it over the green, so not looking good for him. It's all right, Rory. Hey, it's just Thursday. It's just Thursday. This would be sick if we get a good leaderboard by Sunday because I don't think there are preseason games on Sunday. I think it's just Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I like that. I like Ice Cube brought that up. He's like, yeah, before we get football going, got a little basketball on Saturday if you want to watch.

2:10:50Pat McAfee:Come on, got a little sports here before the NFL comes and takes all the ratings. Obviously, golf does an incredible job for us through the weekends of spring and summer. We're very grateful for golf. This will be a great tournament. And who knows, maybe some of the boys might listen to a song or two. Yeah, there you go. You know, might get a little bit motivated. Might get a little bit motivated. Might get angry. Might say, wow, this is ass. Let me go golf with those. Might lock them in. We shall see. I thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. We are the luckiest people on earth that we get to do this.

2:11:16Pat McAfee:And, you know, the title of the album, The Diary of a Polarizing Figure, I don't think it's ever really been showcased more than probably the last couple of days. Yeah, I think you're probably right. I think it's probably right. Great timing. Great timing. It's like you planned it all. Yeah. This is the checkers player once again. You know, this is the entire what's in front of us. Let's do this how we can. But I do think, hopefully, the people that hate my guts that have never met me, will listen to this. They're going to dissect it, but I hope they will listen to the words. And if they do think that I'm talking to them, I am.

2:11:48Pat McAfee:There you go. Easy as that. Tonight, young bull. Old bull. Young calf. Young bull, though, Fernando. Yeah, he is a young bull. Look out. He's already won a national calf answer. Exactly.

2:12:06Pat McAfee:If you're a vet of age and agree to gamble responsibly and not like an asshole. We would love for you to come join us on the best sportsbook on earth, DraftKings, for our team ride tonight. Damn right. Come on, Kirk Hall. Let's go. Let's go, boys. I really do. Yeah, we like it a responsible amount because it is a preseason game. We have no idea what's going to happen. Okay, we all know that. But, boy, I like this one. Oh, yeah. Oh, a rematch of the national championship tonight. Oh, I didn't even think about old Beck being over there potentially dancing. Dozer and Beckel. Jeremiah Love. Daniel Jeremiah mentioned the Houston Texans defense being the most violent he's ever seen.

2:12:43Pat McAfee:That's how we felt about Miami, remember? Yes. We were watching that Miami defense and we were like, these guys. Heavy hits. Yeah. But also, if we get a ref who wants to call this tight, I mean, there's a chance all 11 Miami defense players are ejected. You remember that, AJ? It was awesome. Their style of play was something to be like, they should show the clips of that defense for years and years to come. Hey, you guys want to learn how playing hard is and physical? Here we go, and just turn their tape on. And I think that's what Daniel Jeremiah was saying about the Texans' defense. It's like that carries over in the preseason.

2:13:14Pat McAfee:The backups are all trying to do the same thing. I suppose there's going to be some violence tonight, if I had to guess. I didn't come up with DJ, but apparently Mesidor is dominating Chargers camp. Not a shocking there. Dude, Miami might – I mean, Cristobal – I think people are going to start being like, okay, if Cristobal likes it, if he comes out of that place, we assume that they're going to be good. A lot of dogs. Dogs only coming out of there. Bain wrecked shop yesterday against the Jets, too. Yeah. So let's assume Miami folks forever are about to be back, back, you know, with the culture that they have.

2:13:46Pat McAfee:And also, Gumpy, you're only seeing highlights in your out-go, pal. You're not seeing any lowlights. He's been doing it at training camp, too. I mean, the guy never stops. He's got a big motor. I saw A.D. Mitchell had like five touchdowns yesterday, too. Yeah, pretty crazy. Okay. Everybody relax. We don't need anyone to serve. Team periods? Yeah. Yeah, team. We haven't seen many great – have you seen any of the grading of when they do the one-on-one pass rush? Like, usually we get grades on that stuff. I haven't seen as much this year. No, we've only seen the wide receiver DBs. It died down a bit.

2:14:14Pat McAfee:It kind of stayed away. PFF has stayed away from the one-on-ones down in the trenches just because the amount of people that have come out and be like, that would never be an actual sack. Guards helping. They're passing that off right there. What are we talking about? It's always the offensive lineman bitching about the one-on-one and how unfair it is. You know, that's kind of the whole game of this. Just like DBs are like, okay, that's not real. are we going to have 14 seconds for this entire drill? There's always those kind of discretions. That's why I'm excited games are back. Hell yeah! Let's enjoy tonight.

2:14:41Pat McAfee:Let's enjoy the hell out of it. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We're back for brunch tomorrow. You all are the greatest people on earth. Be a friend, tell a friend, so I'm nice and might change your life. We're interesting together. Thank all of you for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me. Team on three. For the good of sport, baby. always and always we love you see you tomorrow after the album's out yeah definitely yeah yeah yeah yeah one two three you matched on hinge you're vibing then her energy completely changes what do you do I'm Raven Smith, and I wrote and read a real love story about this exact sitch.

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