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21:50Pat McAfee:Yeah, you went after Chiefs Kingdom a little bit. Last time you were on last week, I do believe. David Njoku also on the Chargers. I saw a clip of him shirtless warming up with Herbert. Freak. Big guys. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And Herbert is a giant. And you talked about McDaniel not working with anybody like Herbert before. Obviously, we all saw the clip of McDaniel and Harbaugh on the sideline talking about a play call he just sent in. He said, quarterback's got to be an absolute alien to complete this pass. And he rolls to his left. He throws it back to his right or whatever. And McDaniel was like laughing.

22:24Pat McAfee:Harbaugh's first response was, I could make that throw. I love that. That was his first reaction. But yeah, he just said, you have to have an absolute candidate quarterback to be able to make this throw. and it's like McDaniel probably in real time realizing what he can do with them and why was that show uh throw so crazy and what does this mean you think for the Chargers offense yeah I mean imagine a unbelievably creative coach being able to use 53 and a third of the field and probably 60 plus yards you you're you're pretty um infinite with the things that you can design and spaces you can tack I don't know how far this ball travels but to the naked eye it looks probably close to 40 yards and it maybe is 12 feet off the ground there's just not a lot of dudes who can cut that ball loose like that it reminds me of the do you guys remember the stafford throw last year against san francisco when he kind of was like moving to his left and threw it all the way back across the field to the right on a dot to the sideline those guys you as a coach there's only so many spots that you um can attack per your quarterback oh we love this play can we get to this i don't think we can get that out on time maybe we can't protect it quarterback's arm isn't strong enough with justin you can attack parts of the field and design plays to attack parts of the field you just can't and i think about it like this guys they can have such a vertical stretch of the field like such a vertical downfield stretch because of the fear of the speed think of a player like a brendan thompson and then the arm strength that you are going to have gashes in the middle of the field at like 25 yards.

24:02Total gashes. Because as a defense you're like, we can't get beat deep. If you just get any type of at the line of scrimmage, run fake or step forward. And suck them up, you're saying. You're talking about sucking

24:14Pat McAfee:them up to you? You suck those guys up. And then you got everybody that's covered way deep. You got big space and opportunity in there. And with the way he's able to kind of put things on time even if he's late, he can be on time with how strong his arm is. There's a chance the Chargers offense could be explosive. Can they score in a red zone? Can they score in a red zone? That's a good question. And you think they're going to be okay without Minter? I watched him rap last night. Yeah. His palms were not sweaty. No. His knees were not weak. No. And Mom's spaghetti stayed down. That's right. I mean, he was absolutely in.

24:47Pat McAfee:Crushed it. And the boys, I'll tell you, the Ravens look like they are all in on this new era. And their defense, obviously, last year was not what everybody expected. Lamar was hurt for most of the year. We get a brand new era whenever it comes to who's running the team. Lamar Jackson and the lads still there, though. It's like nobody's really talking about the Ravens going to run. I watched this video last night. I go, it looks like they like each other. It reminds me a little bit of Seattle two years ago. Sure. Whenever McDonald first got there, and there were some videos coming out from their concert that they were having with the rookies.

25:17Pat McAfee:I love what Minter's kind of doing over there, and I like how it seems the team loves this man. Baltimore is going to be awesome this year Awesome Awesome They're going to be I did not sound like that Yesterday you said it too Yesterday you said it too I heard it You said Awesome Because they are potentially going to be Awesome I agree Baltimore is going to be very good at football this year There you go You think everyone's going to be good at football this year? Smart. That's a good idea, Dan. Yeah, you do. Good idea. Trust me. No, I don't. No, I don't. I've been – I was just going to say I think they're going to be really good, but there is a little bit of their interior offensive line's got to take a big step forward.

26:08They're going to be, I think, really reliant on a young player like Jacoby Lane. Zay Flowers is great. God bless him. Congrats on getting his money. Bateman's had some really big highs, but has had some – I can't stay healthy as reliably as you would prefer. So they're going to be banking on Jacoby Lane. Remember, Isaiah likely gone in New York. So they're looking for that really reliable, like, second and third option in their pass game. And so, you know, those are some question marks that will have to get answered. You know, I think that there's some teams. You think they're going to be awesome?

26:42I do think they're going to be awesome, but how good is going to be dependent upon that? I said this yesterday, and people went up in arms. Chicago. Chicago, I think, is going to be a good football team. Yeah. But they don't have a receiver room that is wildly proven. Talented, for sure. But Romo Dunze and Luther Byrd in the third are talented, but they have not been proven commodities in the NFL. And could they go for 1 ,000 yards? Absolutely. But that's a group right now that is not nearly as proven as most of the other wide receiver rooms in the NFC. I still think they're going to be good.

27:17Pat McAfee:Okay, I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate that. I think Caleb's going to be good as well. The defense, though, to what Tone added in, they got a lot of turnovers last year, man. Any team that's getting, like, that many turnovers, and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing. I think that's a good thing. But is it going to happen again and again and again? It feels like turnovers are a little bit of luck has to happen as well for you. Whether it's a deflection or a ball, they were getting everything. Now, is that just a sign of things to come? Potentially. That could be what the Bears' defense is as we see it in this Ben Johnson era and they go forward.

27:48Pat McAfee:And then also we heard what? Ben Johnson, didn't he say last year a couple times? Like, our quarterback's nowhere near playing good quarterback or something like that. Something along those lines, right? Like, even whenever they were winning, having success, I think Ben Johnson thought that. Despite the quarterback? Yeah, something along that. I forget what it was. I think he was talking like, you know, we're still not playing as good as we can offensively or as good as we need to. I think what he was saying, what he meant to say was, like, the amount of growth that we still have on the offensive side is huge.

28:16Pat McAfee:But the way it came out was like, we're winning without Caleb even playing good football. And then Caleb would make these magical plays that would be gigantic, help them win these games. But it felt like Ben thought they were nowhere near what they should be on the offensive side. And they could have won the whole damn thing last year, it felt like, at certain times. Absolutely. And you just saw, you know, I think if you go from early on in this. There it is. We're winning in spite of our passing game. Not because of it. And none of us are pleased with that. Yeah. And when was that? That was December.

28:47Pat McAfee:Yeah. That was late in the season. Yeah. They were winning games. Like, it was a good thing. And they're like, yeah, quarterback's not playing good. And we still wondered, like, Caleb's going to be good in this offense, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we heard this a couple of different times through the season. It was like, nope, guy's still not playing our offense. Still not doing it. Still not getting it. He's just a freak athlete out there that's able to make a bunch of plays for us. so it's like is the upside for Caleb this year with a full another full offseason a lot of success and can see what it can be like are the Bears going to be so talented on the offensive side with those young wide receivers that if the defense doesn't get the most turnovers in the league or whatever they still be able to be good I guess that's what everybody's trying to weigh Dano that's what everybody's trying yeah I think and like the answer would be yes if you told me that those receivers played 17 games and both individually took step forward there's other players on their offense for sure loveland's going to be one of the best tight ends in ball this year but those are two receivers that have a lot of pressure on them because if you just look in the division green bay proven and loaded at wide receiver obviously detroit obviously minnesota you go nfc west proven and loaded at wide receiver nfc east proven and loaded at wide receiver outside of the giants and so on everyone continues to you know pound the table for chicago and i understand the why but the expectation is caleb second year and ben johnson take this meteor step forward in your third year in the league sure but those guys have to not only be on the field but take steps forward to being like true number one number two wide receivers they've had moments of it they've had glimpses of it but we have not seen at least in those first season for one and two seasons for the other that to be the case and that's the question mark in chicago outside of the turnovers Also, last year, six regular season fourth-quarter comebacks and then add the playoff one, obviously.

30:33Pat McAfee:Seven fourth-quarter comebacks, a bunch of turnovers. People say that's football gods there. Well, who was that like two years ago? The Commanders. Exactly. And then before that, it was the Vikings, we remember. They were on that magical route. Danny Dimes, nice to them. There's normally a – Yeah, football gods. This is just like what basketball teams used to be that relied on the three. You know, like at some point, you're not going to have it. And then everything's going to figure it out. You get the turnovers and crazy fourth quarter comebacks in the same season. A lot of people are going to be like, that's not happening again to you guys because we've probably all experienced something.

31:09Pat McAfee:But I believe in Ben Johnson, man. I believe in Ben Johnson winning football games. And that's how I describe that, like fourth quarter comeback. Yeah, I believe in Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. I believe in them. So I just assume they're going to get better this year. Will they be able to win it all? I don't know. That NFC North is interesting. Yeah, very. That NFC North is very interesting. Okay, let's go to NFC South, shall we? Because we talked about Herbert a little bit there and McDaniel. So, obviously, there's a third member of this conversation that needs to be talked about. It's fascinating.

31:34Pat McAfee:Go ahead, Tua. Yeah, there is a third member. We also talked about turnovers as well, so you throw that in there. Tua is who we are talking about. You know, reports at what? Just you added that turnovers. No way you could have framed it. You didn't have to do that to Tua. We were just talking. Things happen. Reports out of joints in the first preseason game. Not really great down in Atlanta with Tua at quarterback. We know Penix is practicing. He's doing seven on seven. Nothing team yet. I believe he met with a doctor yesterday to see if he can be cleared now. What are your thoughts on the Falcons offense?

32:08Because we know they have weapons and their offensive line is good. How is Tua and his Penix is doing seven on seven enough to be ready for the regular season? Absolutely not. You have to at least get real 11-on-11 reps in practice, let alone not having them in any type of preseason game. So I would expect Michael Penix to play this year. For him to go out on the field without any type of real live action is going to be challenging. I would expect Tua to be the starter just because of the circumstances. It was sloppy. Preseason week one was sloppy by everyone. Tua was sloppy, dropping snaps. The ball couldn't get out of his hand quick enough.

32:52I think Tua probably has about as little desire to get hit as possible. I don't blame him. It looks like that in his play. I've heard it sounds like that and looks like that in some of these camp practices and joint practices. I think Atlanta's in a situation where they've got a quarterback that has been through a lot that doesn't necessarily want to get touched by the defense much. And they got another young, talented guy that hasn't been able to stay on the field. And I would say this, I don't want to be disrespectful. I don't. But there's probably a minimum of four to six teams that we could already right now in October 21 or whatever it is, tell you they're looking at quarterback for 2027 already.

33:40And I firmly think Atlanta's in that conversation. It's August.

33:44Pat McAfee:Is this October 21? Yeah. They're going to be awesome. It's almost Halloween. Yeah, I mean, if we can write this down in October, I mean, it'll be a little different because we'd already seen a bunch of games. You're a clown. You're so locked in and saying that, hey, there's like six teams that we can publicly state that everybody would kind of agree with us that they have no chance of winning the Lombardi. Now, in their locker room, they all have to buy in that they can. That's on them to do that. But it does feel like Atlanta is in the middle of an interesting time. Matt Ryan, obviously, in charge late.

34:16Pat McAfee:Stefanski brought in his first year. No real loyalty, really, seemingly, to whatever other than B 'Johan Robinson, who they just paid. They got some good defensive players as well, right? Yeah, young rookies. So, well, a couple injuries and suspensions. But, yeah, last year they were very good at rookie on defense. So, it's like – They paid all their offensive pieces. B 'Johan, Drake, and Kyle Pitts. Oh, and O 'Line. The two rookies are hurt and one suspended, though. So, how many years, you know, are they thinking in this new Matt Ryan era? because obviously that's a huge change taking place where he is now the president of football.

34:46I mean, if they're already counting themselves out right now, they might be eyeing, hey, you know, with this incoming draft class next year that's supposed to be one of the best ever, maybe, you know, maybe we kind of just punt this year and we get like an Arch Manning or something and then we go. All right, think about it like this. Just realistically, Tua starts the year and play. It's almost similar to Cleveland. He starts the year and he's playing okay. They're doing okay as a team. and you get to late October, early November, are we having a conversation about a contract extension? And he's playing okay.

35:18It's not elite ball. Two and three. Two and three. Maybe three and four. Yeah, and it's like, okay, well, with his history, realistically it has to be a part of the conversation. The same with Michael Penix. You get to a point where Michael Penix starts, and again, he's playing okay, and the team's doing okay. are we are we putting a ton of money into to that and i hopefully you know two has gotten a ton of cash so god bless him hopefully michael pennix gets into a situation where he can but i just think from an organizational like are are we are we really confident in doing that and i think the same can be said in cleveland where you're like all right deshaun starts and deshaun plays okay you know what that's going to be a really big question mark for them is like all right we're

36:07Pat McAfee:going to do that again and they probably have their eyes on the future not that they're thinking about the next draft class because they probably have to be but like so let's not act like that's something that's not already happening out of the ordinary but i think they both have reprieve right todd munkin's first year yeah oh yeah and stefansky's first time you know they both have and matt ryan i think that's a big deal yes this is matt ryan and stefansky's first year in there okay this is their first year in there they're trying to learn and figure out what is going and what is not going with him.

36:36Pat McAfee:And maybe Penix gets in there whenever he gets healthy and plays. Maybe Tua figures it out. Maybe Tua figures it out. I doubt it. He's playing football, man. He's played good football. He scored 70 points in a game. He was the number one offense in the NFL at one point. A long time ago. Last time we saw him play was against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Why do you have your jersey tucked into your pants? Because it's Premier League starting today. It's England. It's football day. Okay. Okay. Who's playing? Arsenal. Happy anniversary. thank you Dano appreciate it man happy birthday Dan happy birthday Dan is that why you said that hope your chicken was good happy birthday Dan no I saw Gumpy's tweet where he was talking about and I got to listen to Gumpy's story like last year when we were out there for I don't know whether we were there for Jeopardy or when I didn't know that whole story which is insane program feud feud dude asshat listen Jeopardy we're not doing Jeopardy out here we could though you know that we're not doing Jeopardy out here but on that note shout out Gumpy happy birthday to you, Dano.

37:35Pat McAfee:Shout out to Football Day. Yeah, it's Football Day. Football Day. Coventry City back in the Prem. Arsenal versus Coventry? Yeah, first time long time back in the Prem. Arsenal's D-Buts team? Yeah, Premier League reigning champions, so they're highly favored in this one. Oh, this is a banner night? Yeah. Oh, they've got a banner night over there. Remember, soccer does the home team first. They say blank is hosting blank, where in America, we say blank at blank. Yeah, the right way. Yeah, which is what you're supposed to do. Did you know that, dano no clue yeah so i don't know if that's all their sports over there but definitely soccer they say like arsenal's hosting coventry that's where you take the verse out and put hosting and then in america obviously you take the verse out and you put at you know so like this team is at this team but in soccer it's this team's hosting this team because they're gracious like it sure i guess they are i think that sucks yeah it's a little hey hashtag i got into it what's that kind of into what the hosting yeah like i like that it differentiates it i like that you like soccer you get into football a little bit uh no i like the world cup because america i went when we were calling a game in london um fowler took us to um i think arsenal versus tottenham in the new stadium it was unreal i mean it was it felt like i was in an sec football game like the chance The stadium is sick.

39:00I felt like it was very Fenway Park-ish. You're in the middle of this old school town. Stupid, stupid sick stadium. That was very cool. Stupid lit stadium.

39:13Pat McAfee:It is super lit, dude. Fenway, obviously old school. That's what he's talking about. You got to remember those places over there, so old. Hundreds of years. So old. It's cool to look at because you're walking through a museum, obviously. I was going to say the town around the town he wasn't comparing Fenway the park he's talking about the town it's like you're in a neighborhood and all of a sudden bang there's a stadium right there it sounds awesome it does sound awesome is that what they're saying over there probably Price is fucking awesome isn't it

39:57Pat McAfee:people hate this show crazy that that happens okay let's move along more football shall we comment has a question for you dano yeah dano i for one love the cincinnati bangles this year basically every single thing that's coming out of their camp is just fuel to the fire for me when it comes to being a bangles kind of supporter from afar in the afc north this year sorry tony with that being said I don't know about that but Dan you seem to be spinning the web that if the Bengals don't win this year Joe Burrow is going to force his way out similar to what Tony was just saying why do you think that do you really believe that Joe Burrow would leave Cincinnati because that would break my heart and all the hearts of people in Ohio because we all know nobody's rooting for the Browns fans even the Browns fans are booing their own team yeah if it doesn't improve and they don't win, changes are going to get made 100%.

40:52I think the Bengals go 13-4 this year. I think they win the division. I've said that. I think their schedule is, I believe, the softest in the league. Yes. I don't know outside of Lamar the top quarterback that they will play against. They're not playing against, like, murderers row of quarterbacks. So I don't think that there's a lot of examples in our league of a star quarterback and one of the five best who joe is going four years in a row of not getting into the playoffs getting absolutely destroyed physically and just being like i want to hang around so um is it an assumption on my end like sure i'm not getting told anything but um i don't i think breeze went four years in a row with not making it and it could have been three um but i go back to it being twofold one the season in 24 which i think was that year where joe and jamar put on unbelievable performances i think jamar was like the triple crown winner if i want to say they scored like 35 a game and they were like the first team in the history of the nfl to score that many and not get in and so if it's a repeat of that could i see joe going i don't want to do this anymore for sure is joe gonna get hit 60 70 times or again if that happens and they don't get in could i see joe going i'm tired of getting destroyed absolutely and so again i think it'll be different i fully expect them to be an awesome team but if they aren't firing on all cylinders and a playoff team and making a run it's the changes are getting made and i just don't think

42:33Pat McAfee:it's just going to be a head coach okay and i assume joe burrow will come out and say this is nonsense obviously i'm a cincinnati bengal i'm an ohio kid i like being here no matter what and i i assume that is exactly how and why he has to feel that way dan's just saying if this is another miserable existence because he i think he even said like not winning is not fun like it is terrible and then he said this is it it there isn't like a maybe next year maybe next year he put the sense of urgency on this year i think that's because he's an uber competitive human being i think that's how he feels obviously he wants to win he was a guy earlier in his career who wanted to take shots okay wanted to take hits so that he could uh you know feel like he was in the game and it's like he is i know he does fashion super handsome obviously i talk about him outside the field on the field this guy is wildly ridiculously competitive wildly tough insanely, insanely talented.

43:30Pat McAfee:And I think all any of us want to see is him playing those big-time games because we've already seen him in the Super Bowl. Now, you ask, have you ever seen a guy who's been able to do all those things, want to stick around? It's like, how long was Stafford up in Detroit? Twelve years. So Stafford was in Detroit for 12 years. And then if you think about when he left, he immediately wins the Super Bowl and gets all the accolades. So Joe Burrow could stick around for 12 years and go ahead and do it, or he could see what Stafford did and potentially go have the time of his life in Los Angeles. And it's so similar because they both don't have really great offensive line, don't have really great run games, and both the defense lets up a lot of points.

44:08Pat McAfee:It reminds me so much of the Stafford days. And they both had elite receivers. Yes, exactly. And just like what Joe Burrow is saying and Staff saying, Staff wanted to win for Detroit. He had the Staff for a long time. That is why he was there for so long. and there was a lot of people probably around staff that were probably saying like, hey, man, it would be so much fun if we had you on like a team. Absolutely. That would like, you know, that would be really cool if we get you on a team that could maybe, you know, playing games that aren't just Thanksgiving that everybody's watching. You know, like maybe we get you in there.

44:41Pat McAfee:And then as soon as he gets with McVay, it's like best years, wins a Super Bowl, becomes an MVP, is now going into the Hall of Fame guaranteed, no longer just a stats merchant or whatever the case is. Stats Stafford is what they call him, right? Instead of Matt Stafford. It's like the quarterbacks are seeing these types of things happen now. Peyton leaves, wins with the Broncos. Tom leaves, wins with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's like leaving and going to another place. I mean, Aaron, we'll see what happens with Pittsburgh Steelers. Used to be something the quarterbacks never did. Like this is not like a normal thing.

45:11Pat McAfee:Like players would get like one or two years and it would be like a fall-off year and it would be ass. As of late, it seems like really good quarterbacks have been able to find the right spots and, like, go and, like, have great success somewhere. So that is also haunting Cincinnati potentially on losing Joseph Burrow is what the recent history has done. On that note, he's an Ohio guy. We can't forget that, that Dan Orlovsky. We cannot forget that. Yeah, no doubt. And I don't expect that to be the case because I think they're going to be really good. But I also, we all can acknowledge. Awesome, maybe?

45:43Awesome? It could be awesome. Super awesome. They could be awesome this year. uh we can all acknowledge like how all in they are you know it's they've paid everybody that he's wanted they've drafted they traded 10 pick for Dexter Lawrence and I've said this there's the only organization that I could sit here and say you know is you know completely as all in for one season as the Bengals would be the Rams and so we all know that they have put it all on the line for this season and the expectation is for them to be outstanding and go on their run and if it doesn't happen it looks like it has the last three years yeah there's there's going to be

46:24Pat McAfee:a lot of question marks and a lot of changes all right last question here as we wrap this up with dano ty has one about tonight obviously we have the jets and the steelers panthers and the jags and the last one nine o 'clock packers at broncos go ahead ty yeah dano as of right now both jordan Love, excuse me, and Bo Nix are scheduled to play. Don't know how much they're going to play. Love only played about a series last week, but even if it is only like one series, if you're a fan of these respective teams or just you watching this game, what are you taking from that one series that you see? A lot of people, I think for whatever reason, don't give Bo Nix the credit that he deserves.

47:02He was awesome down the stretch last year. Arguably maybe the best quarterback in the NFL. And a lot of people are saying, hey, we need to see his mobility, see what he looks like but uh for that game in particular what are you looking for from both of those guys yeah Bo was about as clutch as there was in the NFL last year specifically to Bo Nix because this was a flaw and an issue last year was just hyper feet I want to see his feet calmer that started to be the case as you know that back end of the season went on last year there's still moments where I think it's just his style of play there's a little bit of you know competitive I'm a linebacker type of mentality with him so not as hyper feet I want to see you know the connection that he has with Waddle, and then for Jordan, the connection he has with Golden.

47:43This is a really talented, both teams are really talented offenses. Both quarterbacks are really good players that are probably undervalued at the position. But for the Packers to be what I expect them to be, and certainly Jordan individually, Golden's going to have to be a huge, huge part of their offense pass game-wise. And you guys know how I feel or where I stand about Denver. I think they're as talented a roster as there is in football. It's out of the rims.

48:07Pat McAfee:All right, we appreciate you joining us, Dan O. We genuinely appreciate everything you're saying. Feels like you're swinging a hot bat right now. Now, some of these things that you're saying are going to be not right. We won't talk about those this season. We'll make a deal. No, for sure. Nope, I wrote them all down. I want you to. I wrote them all down. They're right here, Dan. I got five or six of them, actually, as guarantees. I don't care about – I do not worry about being wrong. We know that. That's why you got to go. That's what it's about, Dano. That's why you say yesterday like that. Amen.

48:40I'm gonna be wrong You're awesome We're all gonna be wrong But I can't be right in comparison to others Unless I'm willing to be wrong What's that even mean Yeah God bless you Dan Great movie It's not a movie Those are great scenes in movies

49:03Pat McAfee:Okay yeah And in real life Alright ladies and gentlemen It's Dan Orlovsky. Jeez. Dan, Dan, oh. With the Jesus one shirt on. That's the Catholic, right? Well, that's Latin, but yeah. That's the super-duper Catholic. Is that Booth Dog Saints? Yes. Okay. Great movie, actually. Which is a great movie. Yeah, and it's great scenes, actually. Hey, Dan's kind of swinging a hot bat right now. Dan is swinging a hot bat. But people say that whenever they do their weekly... Yeah, I mean, that would be like if you're a big-time super Catholic, you're going to a mass that's in Latin, if you can still find one.

49:37Pat McAfee:Okay. And they're doing El Manipatria. Yeah, El Manipatria, et fiel es Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Yeah. Dano's feeling good about himself. He's breaking down one play for 25 minutes. He's in his bag. Bro. Hair's looking good, too. Oh, yeah. He needs to think about maybe a little tight top or a tight side with a little top move there. He's got good hair. He could do a stash like Shanahan. Oh, my gosh. Imagine if he had a strong. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, let's pivot away from the NFL in the preseason games to college. having chaos happen now there is another update to the five for five ruling that happened in colorado and then the injunction that took place down in louisiana which opened the doors for i think 16 guys who were on nfl teams who were of the uh recruiting class 2022 who were not able to take advantage of the five for five rule because the five for five rule wasn't put in place until after they had already declared eligible for the nfl draft multiple guys go undrafted end up on NFL teams.

50:38Pat McAfee:A guy named Jack Plyburn actually gets a sack for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in preseason game one. But because of the ruling that took place in Louisiana, he actually was afforded an opportunity to go back to college if he wanted to, play his fifth year of college in a five for five because he didn't redshirt, and then re-enter into the NFL draft next year, maybe build up his draft stock, have a different setup. It's all craziness. It is seemingly all insane. Now there was a ruling today where the NCAA got a win where it said, nope, the five-for-five rule for this class is not allowed, but the pros are allowed.

51:11Pat McAfee:Joining us now is a man who should have the ins and outs of all of this, a guy who's negotiated over$7 billion in deals. He's obviously synonymous with the NFL for being a super agent for a very long time. No, it's over$10 billion now. I just got updated. Sorry, the internet was wrong for the original search that I did earlier today. That must have been from two years ago. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, also in the NIL world and now trying to do it right, I think, from an agency side in college and hopefully telling us what the hell is going on in his world, ladies and gentlemen, Drew Rosenow. Hey, Drew!

51:42Pat McAfee:How you doing, Drew? Good to be with you, Pat. Okay. It is crazy times. A lot of words there. A lot of words there. The five for five thing seemingly is the most recent chaotic what the hell is going on here. We're seeing guys playing in the NFL in preseason games, now potentially going back to college. Then a judge comes out and says, no, you actually can't. Where do we sit right now and how does it affect you directly and what you know about the situation? Well, we have a client to keep an eye on. His name is Daquan Wright. He was a tight end for Ole Miss. Last year, he went undrafted primarily due to injuries.

52:18He was at the NFL Combine. He signed with the Philadelphia Eagles. He got a$25 ,000 signing bonus and$25 ,000 guaranteed of his base salary. He was released by the Eagles, claimed on waivers by the Browns. He's currently on the Browns. But Daquan was part of a group of players that filed a lawsuit in Louisiana where they got a temporary restraining order where he is now eligible. should he be released by the Browns and have his contract terminated, not claimed by another team, he would then have the opportunity to go play college football. This is crazy. This could be the first player to play in the NFL with an NFL team through the combine, through training camp, and go play collegiately.

53:14I think it's likely to happen as his agent because we don't currently project him to make the Browns. I wouldn't expect him to be claimed on waivers. He's really low on their depth chart. And I would expect him to be cut on or before August 30th. At that point, his contract is terminated. And the judge in Louisiana has said that at that point, he can sign with a college team. He would have to repay the Browns his signing bonus, apparently, and per diem. But certainly he would make enough money to go back to college where he could afford to do it. It would be a windfall.

53:56Pat McAfee:And then he could go back in the draft next year when he's healthy. Okay, so you even sounded a little baffled by it while you were explaining it, right? Because you've been around football a long, long time. And obviously you have college relationships because whenever you're repping guys, you have to travel and recruit and the way you've done business for a lot of universities they're very thankful for you so obviously you understand college football but now the business of college football is crazy so you've been around this world longer than i mean anybody how long have you been in uh business this is going to be my 38th nfl season okay so i'm 39 so almost as long as i'm alive okay so that just kind of puts it in perspective you even think it's absolutely absurd but you probably i don't want to speak for you but your angle is like it's my job to take care of this guy i am his business representative if this is going to be afforded we have to take advantage of that and how how else have the convos gone about kind of the the state of college sports as a whole anyways right now with money from where and how and everything for you trying to battle like you love football you've done a lot of good for football but also like what the hell is going on how much of that has happened with you personally actually yeah you know pat i'm i'm always candid with you, I did not initiate this concept for Daquan.

55:09This was his idea, nor was I the attorney that initiated his lawsuits or orchestrated him going in the transfer portal. But I do work for Daquan. And so I have a responsibility to help him to the best of my abilities. I also have a relationship with the colleges and the NFL teams. And I don't want to see anybody hurt here. Certainly the NFL has a vested interest in this scenario because if players are released and they have the ability to bypass the practice squad or not go back on the roster at a later date because they're going into the draft, this really affects NFL teams. This appears to be an isolated case to the 2022 draft class and players from that class who were, I shouldn't say draft class, college class, entering class, and only these players who have a year of eligibility left because of this five for five ruling.

56:16This doesn't mean everyone who gets cut can go play in the NFL, who's released from the NFL could go play in college. It's absolutely not the case, nor should it be. This is a very isolated instance. But in my case, I never dreamed that we would ever see a player in the NFL go play collegiately. I don't think that's an ideal system. I think the ideal system is guys exercise their eligibility in college. They move on to the NFL or life after college football. I just think that's cleaner for everyone. I think that's better for the game, both in college and in the NFL. But on that note, if one of my guys is in this situation, we're going to do it.

57:03Pat McAfee:We're going to win the situation how we have to. You said something there that I think is the first time I've heard this, and you would be the person that would have this information before everybody else. He can re-enter the draft next year for the NFL. The NFL has been good with that. They were able to enter this past draft, and then if they go back and play or they're able to go back and play. What was the ruling today? Do we know what happened? That is not pertaining to the case that Daquan is in. Okay, the NFL guy. So today was the federal case that happened in Colorado for the 2022 class.

57:38So guys like Stephen Daly, who were part of the federal for Indiana, they are now ineligible as of today right now. But these 16 that happened yesterday in Louisiana, that's a state level. So anyone who's done it at the state level is still eligible. But if you were part of the federal Colorado 2022, five for five, you are currently ineligible as of right now.

57:58Pat McAfee:I'll tell you what, Colorado having a state law and federal law conversation has been happening for a long time and a lot of different things. But now it's obviously into eligibility system. You brought up the draft though. Can you hit on that a little bit for these guys? They're going to be able to get in or you're just assuming? I'm assuming, you know, because the NFL has to grant players eligibility. so I mean I certainly hope that he could go back in the draft if not I don't see why he couldn't sign as a free agent if he can't go back in the draft he would be a free agent and be able to sign with the team as a free agent because his NFL rights will be terminated none of this can happen unless Daquan and his NFL contract are terminated we're projecting that's going to happen and I've had discussions with the Browns and the NFL Players Association to make sure we do this the right way and again we don't want chaos we do want it to be organized we want the NFL the Browns the Eagles who originally signed him Daquan everyone to be on the same page so there aren't any loose ends I understand what you're saying and that's why you've been a deal maker for so long in the NFL for so long you're dealing with billions and billions of dollars You're a good deal maker.

59:13Pat McAfee:We would like everybody to be in on the same. Everybody has all the information. We're all communicating properly. We need this to happen quickly because there is a timeline. Now, I believe there was like a seven-day window granted for this thing, but you're saying August 30th, which is obviously nine days from now. Does that thing launch on the 23rd, is your understanding? Well, the deadline, I believe, is September 1st. So we are projecting, for example, for Daquan, that he'll be released on or before August 30th, which is the final cut down from 90 to 53. There's only one cut down. My belief is that he would turn down a practice squad contract, which we would anticipate he would get, and instead would sign a more lucrative deal with a college team, which team we don't know yet because he's still with the Browns, but we're anticipating that he would have a market and would get more money.

1:00:07and likes the idea of going back to college, maturing another year since he wasn't drafted, isn't going to make a roster, and then hopefully take a shot at the NFL

1:00:18Pat McAfee:after this coming college season. It's crazy coming out of your mouth, you know. And it's crazy for us to hear, but this is the current situation that we're in. Okay, last question from us. Thank you for explaining from your position on where everything is right now because it does feel like there's a lot of scattered information about it all. Feels like I just learned everything I need to know about this current one that's happening from you, Drew. Now, can we pivot to NFL quickly with you? Yes. Conman, go ahead. Drew, one of your highest profile clients, Tyreek Hill, he's still kind of waiting in the weeds as a free agent right now.

1:00:47It feels like everyone wants him on their team. What is his status right now? How is he doing? And should we expect him to sign before the season or during the season? You know, I don't expect Tyreek to sign before the season. He sent me video yesterday. This is good timing of him running hills. And he looked great. And I said to him, you look great. And he said to me, I still have some work to do. I'm not ready yet. I am not pressuring Tyreek, nor am I setting a timeline for him. I think that what I have said to Tyreek is take your time. It's not when you come back. It's how you come back. We want you to come back when you feel your best.

1:01:31There's no sense of urgency timing-wise. I think this is a future Hall of Famer who still has a lot of good football left in him. This was a devastating injury, but everyone's going to be so impressed when they see how well Tyreek is rehabbed. It's not hyperbole for me to predict that he will play this season when I'm not sure. But I do think when he does sign, he will be a coveted player. He'll be the kind of guy that will impact the playoff race and will certainly be successful once he signs.

1:02:06Pat McAfee:OK, because you're an agent, I know you're not going to give away any leverage and not project anything. But business wise, we assume that that's already going to be able to be taken care of with a lot of teams who might not have a lot of salary cap. And they want in on Tyreek Hill. Do we think that'll be the case? Because he's already gotten a massive deal and he understands he's going to have to prove it for a year. What are your thoughts on how that ends up going for Tyreek Hill? That's a fair question, Pat. And Tyreek and I haven't talked money. Yeah, of course. Hey, if somebody wants to give us$25 million free wheels.

1:02:35You know, you let the market dictate. So let's say we have three teams that are super competitive to get him. We're going to have leverage to maximize the deal. and you know certainly there's been three recent free agent receivers that have signed Stefan Diggs, Debo Samuel, Keenan Allen, Will Tyreek get as much as those guys or less I don't think that's his priority I really think his priority is to pick the right team take his time

1:03:05Pat McAfee:come back fully healthy and help a team win a Super Bowl all right we appreciate the hell out of you Drew good luck in all this man sounds like you got a lot to juggle it feels like you're crushing it all. You're a man who has always had the juice and the energy. I respect the hell out of it. Keep going for the good of ball. We'll talk again, Pat. Thanks a lot. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Drew Rosenheim. Yeah, Drew!

1:03:30Pat McAfee:Listen, I don't think this is a sustainable thing. I don't think this is necessarily, like, the most desirable thing. I'm just telling you, I rep this guy and there is opportunities for him now that have been opened up that maybe weren't there before. Is it? No. This is not what needs to be happy going forward, but it is my duty to go ahead and take care of it. So the federal one, five for five, is not going to be instituted. So the 19-year-old rule to 24 thing has not been instituted just yet. So the five for five is a thing now in the NCAA. But Colorado was the injunction for the class of 2022 to get their fifth year for their five and five if you didn't use the red shirt or whatever it was.

1:04:11And then that was at the federal level. And then at the state level, Louisiana yesterday was for the guys that had already gone into the pros, that they could come back if they do get cut by their team or whatever. Five for five is happening. It is a rule now.

1:04:25Pat McAfee:It's just whether or not the 2022 class gets a chance to utilize it if they didn't make it to the NFL. Correct. So dumb. So it's just all these guys who had the temporary restraining order granted in Louisiana. Do you think all these guys are under the impression that they are going to get cut and they're not going to make an NFL team? because it seems like you kind of have to just be like, all right, because there is a chance, though, right, that one of these guys does make a team, but you kind of have to make a decision right now, okay, fuck it, I'm not going to make it. This is not a desirable thing, but this is what it is.

1:04:56Pat McAfee:College football will be great, we know that. So while we're on the other side, goodbye.

1:05:07Pat McAfee:Football! It's the greatest, and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. It's football season. We had two preseason games last night. We got a plethora of them this evening. We got a slew on Saturday and one on Sunday. And then, obviously, a massive overreaction Monday. We got golf happening. Great golf happening, actually, at this exact time. And, obviously, the Little League World Series is cooking. And we would like to announce from 2 o 'clock to 3 p.m. today on ESPN, in between the Little League World Series games, we will be having a college football showcase show where we'll be chit-chatting about how we are less than one week away from the official college football season kicking off week zero next Thursday night.

1:05:47Pat McAfee:Obviously, you see front and center in D-Bone's graphic. Pete Thamel will be joining us at 2.05 to give us the latest on everything. New head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions, Matt Campbell, formerly of Iowa State, will be joining us at about 2.10. Rich Rodriguez from West Virginia will join us at 2.20. Mario Cristobal from the University of Miami Hurricanes will be joining us at 2.30. Nick Saban at 2.40. And then we'll wrap up the show, obviously, and send to the next Little League World Series show. But this is the graphic that D-Bone made with the information that he was given about a college football showcase show that was pieced together this morning whenever we found out that they needed an hour to be filled because the Little League World Series delays that happened just yesterday.

1:06:30Pat McAfee:We are honored and thankful for that. i want pete thamel to know that i am pumped that he is front and center of this flying v that we got right here but any time in the history of graphics you know we did that tv magic thing about the hard out yep we should do a graphics one anytime nick saban is on a graphic with pete thamel let's just assume that the whatever app he's using whatever whatever editing pro whatever That should automatically put Saban in front of Pete Thamel. Like, it shouldn't let Bone do what he did here. But I'll tell you, Pete Thamel front and center, not a bad thing, especially on this day with Injunction City taking place all around college football.

1:07:13Pat McAfee:We'll be talking about it all, hopefully, for an hour there. And Pete's going to bring it. And then we're going to have a great conversation with a bunch of people that are going to be running how the sport goes. Let's go to the talks table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Con man, you're walking to Mordor. or the guy's getting brain cells lost at every step at sea. Yeah, I guess so, and he was up extra early this morning to be in here and continue that walk. But I think even Peter Thamel is offended for Nick Saban to be in front of him. I assume Thamel just saw that and was just – I mean, you would probably have a better indication on what he would say about that.

1:07:43Well, no, I was actually going to say something else. I was going to say, you know, I kind of get where Bones coming from because Pete Thamel is kind of the most important figure in college football, in the history of college football. Pete would say it's a great jish.

1:07:54Pat McAfee:Yeah, Pete would say maybe a little egregious. I don't really need to be front and center like that. But it makes sense because I know everything about everything. And I woke up this morning, I put my big boy pants on, and I said, I'm ready to break some news about the most important college football season yet, to quote Michael McQuaid. So I like what Bones is doing here. He's doing real yeoman's work, you know, to say the least. Yeah, shout out. Shout out to the yeoman's work, absolutely. Can't wait for that college football showcase. We're less than a week from week zero football games happening next Thursday night.

1:08:28This season for, I don't know, a chance to become, you know,

1:08:33Pat McAfee:obviously immortalized forever, but a school, a program, a city, completely changing what it is, how it is, and how it would operate for the rest of time can certainly happen. We watched it happen an hour south here in Bloomington, Indiana, with this Indiana football team. Them going undefeated last year, winning a national championship, having the Heisman winner, obviously selling out a stadium, brand new stadium. What it did for this entire state was spectacular. These schools are looking to do the same exact thing, the Ohio State Buckeyes. Obviously, Ryan Day has won before. They've had how many guys drafted over the last?

1:09:0425 over the last two years.

1:09:05Pat McAfee:25 guys have left this team and gone to the NFL and drafted the Ohio State Buckeyes. Still odds-on favorite to win national championship. How do they have a factory over there in this modern NIL world? How do they have guys that still want to come in, maybe sit behind guys, and come in and compete whenever they get it? How are they able to get all the big-time recruits that seemingly can catch football better than everybody else? They have Jeremiah Smith across from Chris Henry Jr. And we have not been told if Chris Henry Jr. is playing or not. We just know who the hell Chris Henry Jr. is from high school and since he was a little kid.

1:09:35Pat McAfee:Chris Henry Jr. is going to be on the football field. Him and Jeremiah Smith opposite each other. It's just an outrageous thing. Insane coming in with another year of confidence and comfort is a whole other animal I think that the Ohio State Buckeyes are going to have to have. Yeah, I saw a write-up from a Ohio State Buckeye reporter, I believe, and they were talking about Chris Henry Jr. And we're like, hey, this isn't just a guy who's in the 99th percentile in height and speed and athleticism. He's also very, very good off the ball. Like, this guy isn't just going to catch jump balls and score, you know, red zone touchdowns.

1:10:05Like, he's running slants and he's catching everything thrown his way. So I think he's going to be unbelievable with Jeremiah.

1:10:11Pat McAfee:I think his dad, Slim, was Hooper, like potential NBA Hooper, like I think with size and everything. And I assume Chris Henry Jr. is saying. I think he was dunking for the foul line since like sophomore year. We talked about that with Pac-Man. It was like, you sure you want him to play football and you don't want him to just go make like$400 million playing basketball? But obviously he loves football. And obviously dad, I think huge part of the story. And I think he has like a mission, like in the way he works. And having Jeremiah Smith in a room with him, unbelievable just watching him handle it all the money the fame the uh all the sponsors all the pressure from what a defense there's four eyes on jeremiah smith every single play that's no questions asked chris henry jr is going to get that next year so jeremiah is done that's going to come to him so chris henry who we know is a student of game student of life student of sport he's getting a chance to watch what you could potentially consider a goat at the position for college football for a year experience it alongside of him and then he's going to pass the baton again It's like what Ohio State has been able to do and continue to do with how many people they get to the NFL and how much talent they have, absurd.

1:11:15Pat McAfee:But they're not even the best in the Big Ten. So who says that they're going to topple Kurt Signetti down there in Bloomington? Who knows what Notre Dame looks like this year? C.J. Carr allegedly stores her he's better than ever. Texas Longhorns, Archie Manning, he looks unbelievable. You know who else looks good? Marshall Manning. Yeah, he does. Have you seen this? There's another one. Young pup. People are talking about punting on this year, you know, potentially the Falcons punting on quarterback at this year. and looking at the next draft class. I mean, there's got to be scouts somewhere pounding a table.

1:11:44Pat McAfee:There's a freshman in Tennessee. He's about seven years away from eligibility. About seven years away. So if we can get our quarterback, if we get an eight-year, seven-year quarterback, get him to about 14 years, Marshall Manning's coming right down the pipe there for us. He rolled out to the right, drops the dime, turns that thing over, by the way, over that guy's head. The amount of feel you have to have there, obviously, confidence, moxie, swagger, you name it. This kid's been on a football field since he's, I think, like three or four years old. His dad had him in a hat on out in playoff football.

1:12:13Pat McAfee:So, good for him getting a chance to get some real playing time here. He played in a scrimmage, I think, a couple weeks ago. This is a real game last night against somebody from – Is he – They were Tennessee. It was Georgia. I don't know if he goes to Brentwood. He's Baylor. Okay, so it's Brentwood is who they play. Okay, so congrats. Good game. Yeah, was it? Yeah. The running back for his – Yeah, number 30. Yeah, David Gabriel Georges, who's going to Tennessee, number one running back in the country, is just absurd. Yeah, it's everything we've seen from the old school highlights of, like, Derrick Henry and, like, even, you know, Trent Richardson, I think, had some of these highlights when he was in high school.

1:12:52Pat McAfee:Untackleable. Just a grown man. Does a flip. Somebody chops his knees. Yeah, right. Where did he commit to? Tennessee, I believe. Congrats to Hypo getting a lot. Because they showed him before the game, warming up, looked like he gets along with everybody. Obviously, he's already made a bunch of money. I mean, that is something that's kind of taking place now at a younger age by the day, it seems like. This guy's unbelievable. High school football is about to get better, too, huh? So, preseason football is getting good. College football is getting unbelievable. High school football is about to get unbelievable.

1:13:22Pat McAfee:Is this all because flag football? Joining us now is one of the forefathers of Guardian Caps on helmets. Yes. And flag football potentially being the next one. Ladies and gentlemen, live from Anattic in Ohio. who is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Roderick Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawke. Yeah, is that what you look like in high school at running back, AJ, right there? That is not, I didn't look like that at all and I luckily did not have to tackle anybody that looked like that. That play was unbelievable. That thing was, that hit the internet right away when it happened.

1:13:50But yeah, what a fun guy to watch play.

1:13:52Pat McAfee:Yeah, the future of football, very, very bright. I think that is obviously on display. Last night, a couple of preseason games. Did you get a chance to catch either of them and your thoughts on maybe Fernando not having his best outing that he's ever had as a football player against a Houston Texans defense that looked like they're Houston Texans one defense for the first half and a half a quarter or so. Then obviously Fernando Mendoza starting quarterback for the Raiders rallies the boys watching somebody else play quarterback. Aino Connell gets a big time win. But any takeaway from this game last night early AJ for you?

1:14:24Yeah I thought it was good for Fernando. Obviously he made some good throws. It has some throws that they always say oh you'd like to have back. But I honestly, like, I don't want to carry Dan's water, but I thought Dan did a good job, you know, explaining that whole little situation. Hey, you got to take an extra beat here in your three-step before you throw this if he presses him. And the corner decided to press at the last minute, basically. Fernando may have not seen it initially or just thought, get this thing out of my hand because I've been taught to get it quick. But I think it's a thing, like, you got to see things.

1:14:50Now, I would doubt that this happens to Fernando again. That's the thing, like, when a mistake happens, will it happen again? I know you're doing, you're trying to... You said you got to see things. Your neurological situation, right?

1:15:02Pat McAfee:You said you got to see things. I was just making sure I saw things. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm trying to see things. You know what I'm saying? You've got to work on your periphery. Your periphery is an underrated situation. You've got to have great peripheral vision. True. I agree. I think periphery is maybe a weapon that more people need to work on. I agree. Being observant, I think, is something that matters. I think more people should be taught to be observant. I think that is a trait that you can learn to pay attention to what's going on around you. And I think you should train periphery.

1:15:27Pat McAfee:I think anybody that I've ever seen be very good at sport have great sense of awareness, but also the periphery is crazy. The periphery is absolutely crazy. CJ Stroud's like, yeah, you're right. But you should have seen where I started. Yeah. CJ's like, I started with these thumbs right here. Hey, now I got these bad boys out here. The working has been working, if you know what I mean. Now, this one, we got to go a little bit more, it looks like. But you can't move the jaw. Can't cheat yourself on any of these reps. You move your face, you move your neck, then you're cheating your eyes. We're trying to wake up the eyes.

1:15:55Pat McAfee:C.J. Stroud, obviously, going into a year where there is a lot of critics on what he could become, what he's supposed to be, and a lot of money potentially on the table for old C.J. Stroud. And then the Niners just beat the hell out of the Chargers. I mean, just – and I want to let you know, after talking to Jim Hardball a couple days ago, I didn't think the Chargers really had a chance in this one. No, the whole team's dauber was done. Yeah, a lot of done daubers last night. We're on our own 31. It's fourth down. let's just go for it i don't care about anything anymore this team freaking sucks and we already screwed no no that is not what i saw no granted i was sleeping but that's what i saw when i read that they went for it on their own 31 uh that was the scene in my head that i saw screw it i don't even care about this anymore just go for it that was a late game obviously they're doing that for their fans we get it's preseason not do that it was just tough for us to follow along with that I'd had to catch up with highlights and also reading through stats, seeing them going forward on four.

1:16:55Pat McAfee:I wish I could just been a part of the conversation. Like, yeah, let's practice a gotta-have-it play, McDaniel. I'd like to see, you know, we gotta-have-it play. Who knows how many of these situations we're going to get in before the regular season gets started. But I do appreciate the fact that there is some teams that utilize the preseason to work on stuff, like clearly are trying to work on stuff and don't really care about the outcome. Because, boy, the outcome of the games can kind of sway people. I still believe firmly that next CBA, we're staring down two joint practices, one bubble game.

1:17:26Pat McAfee:That's what I think we got going on. And I think they're going to make joint practices a fanfare thing and a stream. I think that's going to stream thing. I think that's going to be what's coming. I don't know how many more preseason games we have. Everybody thinks it's going to be two preseason games so they can add something. I think there's going to be a joint practice conversation because I think players are going to want to have a say about this difference between regular practice and joint practice. I think that's going to be the next part of negotiations for the players. It's like, hey, these joint practices, it feels like we need to be having conversations about these with how hard everybody's going, how much tackling is happening, the severity of the drills and everything.

1:18:00Pat McAfee:I think that'll be an indicator of a negotiation piece going forward, so who knows how much this matters anymore going forward. But I've seen great football, seemingly, here in preseason, and I'm very excited about what this regular season has in store for us. That was the other thing I was surprised about the joint practices was that it wasn't as much tackling. Like a lot of the times whenever it was Eagles or Patriots, you know, if there's a deep ball, contested ball, of course, they're going for it and everything like that. But the tackling part of it itself wasn't as much. So if they were to do something like that, that's when they could even make the joint practices even more competitive versus what they are right now.

1:18:34Pat McAfee:Yeah, I think it's going to be as somebody that watched a lot of practices. I think that's something that punters and kickers pretty good at. Okay, long snappers as well. Especially in the second regime. First regime, I was working during practice. Sure. That was fun. That was a lot of fun. Second regime, they told me, go get better at punting. What are we doing here? I said, okay. Thanks, Chuck. Go do that. Okay, I will. And then I'll watch practice and talk shit, I guess. But practices are a good time. Practices are a good time. And I also believe that preseason is probably a terrible time for all positions.

1:19:03Pat McAfee:Okay? All positions. Including punting position. I've told the story in the past, okay, where Coach John Tierlink, D-line legendary, coach uh my first conversation with him was him coming over to me in a pre-season game here is jt right here on the left uh coach howard mudd on the right o-line coach d-line coach rest in peace to both of these lads that i was very lucky to be at the tail end of their careers with the indianapolis colts with tier link after i got blindsided by a crack back block on a punt return in a pre-season game and had the full thing happen in the middle of a football field after i walked to the sideline sit down on the bench still trying to gather my thoughts this large man who i had not really talked to before walks over to me slowly because he's a big man he gets off his car walks over to me puts his palm on my thigh puts all 400 pounds whatever it is on my thigh sits down next to me and he says, you punt the fucking ball and you get off the field.

1:20:06Pat McAfee:That's what you do in these preseason games. You catch the snap, you punt the ball, you walk off the field. We don't care if that guy scores. Look, they're about to score right now. This is a D-line coach telling me this. Boom, they just scored. Who cares? Nobody. You punt the ball, you walk off the field. Sound good? And I go, then he puts his hand right back on my thigh okay ah bruises my thigh gets up walks away turns around looks back off the field got it okay then sits down takes a knee goes back to his goes back to his coaching thing so last night there's a punter that needs to hear this message way more than i need to hear it okay we're talking about a guy that does not get into it much he hits high hangers okay a lot of fair catches not a lot of long returns he is very rarely in the mix i don't think he would be described as a physicality person no jk scott get off the field he needs to not be on the field there this is his sideline as well okay this is his sideline as well if he walks six more yards he's he's where he should be at this keep going you're next to 45 and 43.

1:21:19Pat McAfee:Get the hell off the field. Nobody will even know you're there. They'll think you got held up somewhere else. If he gets to the sideline, turns and looks this way as the guy's running, nobody will have a clue. So that is what I think J.K. Scott should have done. There's others that say he should have at least attempted to make a tackle or touch somebody. You know, it is a football game, which is certainly fair. It's certainly a fair thing, but I would like to say Hall of Fame D-line coach, from his mouth to my ears. Punter, if you're going to make team in preseason, you catch punt off field. We don't need you in there with anybody that's trying to make a team right now, especially cracking back on you right there.

1:21:59Pat McAfee:So, J.K. Scott, I would like to tell you, Jim Harbaugh's not going to like this at all. No. I don't think. And shout out to John Tierlink for saying this to me. I don't know if Jim Caldwell knew that he was saying this to me at the time, but you get the hell out of it. You act like you're getting blocked. Something. You need to... Go get Velcroed on somebody. Yes, exactly. Exactly. You need to go hug somebody and just get out of the way. Because, boy, when you're right in front of them and you just decide, I don't. He made him cut back, I guess. I guess he did make him cut back into his coverage.

1:22:27Yeah, he did.

1:22:28Pat McAfee:You're right. Nobody's talking about that. Nobody's talking about that. I always say make him make a drastic cut. I don't know if it's a drastic cut, but he did have to cut back. He was getting absolutely cooked. We'd like to say congrats to this guy probably making the Niners or at least another team for having a punt return in a preseason game. You see that every year, somebody that maybe wouldn't have made a roster, That guy can catch one and take it to the house? Yes. Let's go ahead and get him on the team. And I think that's a good place to start the weekly... Oh, no! Let's go to Cincinnati.

1:22:58Pat McAfee:Okay, everybody saw it. Cincinnati Reds still playing baseball. Obviously, Kirk Herbstreit has given up. Look at this. Top of the ninth. 5-4. 5-4. Two odds. You can get out of it here. Oh, no! Obviously, they take the lead right there. And the Cincinnati Reds lose yet again. Now, this story obviously doesn't just stop there. No, no, it has to continue on social media. Ty Schmidt tells, yeah, absolutely. Ty Schmidt tells Herbie, oh, no, what a heartbreaker, Herbie. You know, because this is right in, they had a win. Yeah, yeah. Catch that, game over. The crowd was standing and clapping, ready to, you know, celebrate the victory.

1:23:36And instead what they say, oh, no.

1:23:40Pat McAfee:And then you see one of the biggest, loudest Reds fans. Okay? Damn. I didn't realize they were still playing. Oh, no. And then also he followed up with a call, right? Yeah, yeah. Herbie called me at about 9.30 last night. And, you know, out of the blue I was, what is this? What's going on? And he just said he just had to do it, didn't you? He just had to do it. And then, you know, he kind of just, I let him commiserate about the Reds and about how his baseball season is over for about 10 minutes. And that was the end of it. But I felt bad for Herbie. I really did. Well, he said that, you know, baseball's changed.

1:24:13Pat McAfee:There isn't the athleticism and yada, yada. Yeah, right. We got pitchers striking people out. 45-inch verticals. Spider-Man memes. Hitting that thing. Hi-hee. Hi-hee. Damn. Actually, it's a ball. Challenge that, please. Come on. I just did the jumpy thing. Oh, I didn't. I need a jumpy thing. Go ahead. Let's go to the Hawkeye. No, it's not, pal. Okay. Oh, no. Actually, it is not. That thing is a ball. So, yeah, actually, umpire really right. So this is what hitters are waiting on. This is what old school baseball people are waiting on. They hate this guy. The old school baseball people hate this guy.

1:24:50Pat McAfee:We heard Big Haas come on, and Big Haas said, yeah, we're fighting this guy. Okay, and obviously teammates probably saying, hey, you're bringing a lot of heat. It's really hard to win a baseball game to begin with. You're kind of doing this. I saw a lot of people on the internet say, hey, the batters are flipping bats into the stands now. So pitchers want to do a little yippee after a strikeout. Let's just kind of let it happen. And I'm going to let you know, I'm on their side. More pitchers doing yippees after striking people out, the more chaos it sounds like. Even a yippee that is a bit premature, you challenge it and get it wrong, set up for another yippee, I think.

1:25:28Pat McAfee:And that's where I'm sitting at. And people in baseball are going to love hearing me say. So are you cool with a yippee? If you're cool with a yippee, are you cool with like a hip-hip hooray? Or is that too far? We get a big one of those. I prefer hip-hip hooray. Well, off the mound, though. I'd like a hip-hip. Yeah, that'd be sweet. To the first baseman. I'm okay with that. Yeah, that's what I'd like. I do like him using his momentum from an elevated surface coming down so it looks like we've got to get camera from bottom on. I mean, that was clean immediately. There's no way. That was a strike.

1:26:02That was a strike. I think the bigger oh-no is that, man, you only get two of those challenges. so you especially as a pitcher you don't see pitchers challenging him a whole lot you better be right uh so all of his teammates are being like hey oh no dickhead okay now one of us isn't going to be able to use that at the plate later in the game turns out that was their last challenge

1:26:20Pat McAfee:and also we got another yippee two strikes later so he threw a pick and then he uh scored a touchdown which we obviously appreciate and uh let's go to anderson indiana shall we fox 59 Angela Gonneau, who is obviously Indianapolis legend news reporter. Daniel Miller. And then in the field will be Kit Hanley. And obviously there was very severe flooding that happened here in Indianapolis and in Indiana across the Midwest. We obviously assisting in all funds that we can find that are helping out the people of our state. We hope others are doing that as well. But every once in a while in the middle of a disaster, there are some rather ridiculously hilarious situations and characters that are born.

1:27:00Pat McAfee:This is one of those. Kit, what is going on in Anderson? Oh my goodness, this is crazy. This all just unfolded in the last 30 seconds. This is 5th and Main Street, and this is a three-wheeler motorcycle. Everyone was waving at him, telling him, no, no, this is where the White River just crested at 8 a.m. this morning. The White River got over 25 feet. It normally sits at 4 feet, so we don't even know how deep this water is. but we know it's deep and somehow he is making it through. This is actually crazy. We also have people standing to the side videoing him, telling him, man, what is going on?

1:27:39What are we doing here? Where are you trying to get? And as you can see, he made it about 90 % of the way. Wow. Can you go over and ask him what was he thinking? I don't know if you can hear us. Good follow-up. Physically, yes. Physically, yes. I'm about ready to kill myself. Oh, no, no. Oh, yes, yes. I have no transportation at all now. My trike's gone. Yeah. And there's not a thing I can do to replace any of it. Did you not see the water there? No, I wasn't. You just weren't sure? No, I didn't see it there. What? Good question by her, by the way. Yeah.

1:28:24Pat McAfee:The only reason why we are running that is because we have an update. This is not an oh no. This is actually a not ass situation. Here's the follow up from Kit. Water levels are above, beyond record levels now in Madison County. This is obviously in Anderson where evacuation orders are in place. Let's go to Fox 59's Kit Hanley. She is live for us at the scene here. And Kit, we noticed that there was another gentleman walked through that water after firefighter told one person not to. Take a look here. Listen to that hum. There we go. We are joined with John, who you just saw last hour. Oh. The motorcycle rescue went well.

1:29:10John is on his way. How are you feeling? He said he's feeling good. You know, he actually tried to ride his bike. Hey, John. Yeah. Stars born. Gump's dad made it.

1:29:22Pat McAfee:physically how i feel i'm okay emotionally and just immediately he has no idea he's live no none well i couldn't even fathom what that guy's like day to day okay i just trying to do a follow-up okay yeah i'm gonna get on out of here this thing started to stall out it was just underwater how did he dry it out we will never know maybe he found a farmer maybe he is a farmer ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who can sniff out whether or not you're a farmer and he did that just recently with his friends at john deere hell yeah now john deere obviously one of one company and if you're gonna be out there cutting or mowing or seeding you need a john deere in between because if it runs like a deer everybody's eyes like that's right yeah joining us now is a john deere man and they ain't just putting that fucking deer on anybody no no ladies and gentlemen a man that's earned it a stud he went from mr irrelevant to now one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the nfl and a man who could lead super bowl champion san francisco 49ers ladies and gentlemen iowa state legend the school of iowa wrong stop don't do that don't do that brock burney how you doing man what's up guys appreciate you having me hey iowa state a lot of love right there ty was vomited i was in the middle of a good introduction and then he vomited all over and i apologize for that we'd like to be more hospitable sir no that's good i appreciate it you're a real one um i know we sort of hit on this earlier this year but uh you know the Cyclones are the real school of Iowa.

1:30:50It is what it is.

1:30:51Pat McAfee:I'm happy that we've thought about it for a while and then we're still coming to the same conclusion. I'm sorry to hear that. No, it's okay. That must be why the head coach and 90 % of the football team got the hell out of their... As soon as they could, he went to Penn State. That's low. Now, on that note... No, it's all good. Campbell, we all love him. He's a real one. He did 10 years there and served the state well. We're happy for him. But, yeah, it's the tradition and everything's going to continue on. We'll continue to beat Iowa, and that's just how it'll be. Yeah, okay. Okay. Matt Campbell will be joining us at 210, by the way.

1:31:25Pat McAfee:Can't wait to catch up with the Iowa State legend, now the head coach at Penn State. Brock, thank you for joining us. Fresh off, obviously, preseason game last night. You guys kick ass. Congrats, man. You won a Super Bowl last night. You won a Super Bowl last night. What is kind of the takeaway from these preseason games for you, Brock? Because, obviously, we're trying to judge every rep on whether or not we think our team can win a Super Bowl or not. We're watching individual one-on-ones from practice. Obviously, we're watching preseason games. For you, what are you taking away from preseason games and kind of what is the emphasis, you know, for you going into these?

1:31:56Yeah, I feel like it's obviously just getting ready for a game, the emotions, you know, studying up a little bit on their defense and trying to have answers when you get out there. And then really just, you know, going through your reads and trying to convert on third downs when you feel the pressure of the game. And it's a little bit different than practice. And so it felt good out there yesterday to be able to go out and do that. Obviously, it's like you get competitive and you want a couple more drives and all that. But trying to be smart just for obviously what matters in the regular season.

1:32:27But, yeah, man, preseason's been good. And camp practices, the inter-squad scrimmages, like it's all great. But it's all just leading us up to, you know, what really matters. And that's week one and moving forward.

1:32:39Pat McAfee:Yeah, week one's in Australia. Safe travels. Coming back is ass. They say, I assume you guys will be able to figure it out as you have it. The rest of an NFL season after that. So it should be good. No worries. It should be easy for you guys. Excited that you're representing our sport down there, because I think that is an entire continent that will love our sport. And I think you obviously two great teams. Let's talk about your team a little bit more in a man that we might see. Felt like we got good news about George Kittle last night, Iowa Hawkeye legend, from the Adam Schefter tweet about Dr.

1:33:06Pat McAfee:Neal Eletrosh. Shane, he's ahead of schedule. They're looking, they're hoping for a week one return for George Kittle. Christian McCaffrey had some stiffness, but they said he would play. How does it feel knowing that you guys have a roster that is absolutely loaded, and if you're able to stay healthy, especially with the addition of Mike Evans, you can go on a run? How does it feel to be in there? Because obviously you get dropped in, seventh-round pick, 222, very good football team, trying to find a quarterback. Then you become one of the greatest quarterbacks the NFL has ever had. And now you guys are loaded, primed for the expectation to go, but you also have all the dogs, it feels like.

1:33:38Pat McAfee:Does it feel like that? and what do you think about this current roster with where you guys are? Yeah, man, we're excited, obviously, just with who we have, the new faces, the new guys, Raheem Morris, the coordinator. We've had all these really good transactions and things, and I think for us, we're excited to go and pick up where we left off a couple years ago with a great roster, a great team, a great organization, obviously. So we're excited about it. Obviously, we've got to get these guys healthy, you know, come week one, those guys that you just talked about. But I think they all will, and we're going to just see what happens, man.

1:34:16We've got to take it one week at a time. And we've got a really good division, obviously, with the Rams and the Seahawks, Cardinals. So we've got to, you know, just take it one week at a time, man. But I'm excited about our team.

1:34:25Pat McAfee:Super pro if you had dropped Cardinals in there. Yeah, that was nice. They'll be very appreciative of that. Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, what about you guys adding Mike Evans to the roster? We see him out there looking good in the Niners uniform. looks a bit weird to see him in Niners uniform, obviously, for us. But what's it been like to have him on the team so far? Yeah, man, he's been awesome. Just, like, obviously another vet presence. Just what he brings to the table with our receiving core and just having him in that receiver room has been huge. Just for guys to understand, like, dude, this is what it takes to be great.

1:34:57And he goes out there, and obviously he's a threat, you know, anywhere on the field, but, like, in the red zone too, man, Just seeing what he can do and just that it's another level that he brings to the offense down there, man. So I'm excited about that. But in general, he's smart. He's played with great quarterbacks and Tom Brady, Baker Mayfield. So I'm picking his brain on those things, too. So I'm extremely happy that we got Mike.

1:35:21Pat McAfee:Yeah, man, he's able to get a thousand yards with anybody, right? Yeah. That's it. Everybody. So... So you better... Yeah, that'd be on you. Yeah, they would say, yeah, Brock, everybody, Brock Murdy is what they would say. But the fact that you guys got him on the team was a mind-blower for us, especially for an offense that obviously if you have a deep play in one play, every single opportunity, a guy's one-on-one, that opens up everything else, including a slant god that is seemingly back in the front of the line with the boom box. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Brock, how has it been having Deebo Samuel back?

1:35:57You know, like we all remember how dynamic he was and you guys' connection when he was there. Have you guys picked up kind of right where you left off? And how comforting is it having that guy back in the offense and just, you know, around the team? Yeah, it's funny. We were actually, you know, sort of joking about it. He goes, it feels like, you know, I've been here, even though last year he had left. But, yeah, he came right back into our offense, our system, at practice, and he's done what he's always done. He looks great. Strong hands and, obviously, the playmaking ability, man. And I think for us, it's put him in the backfield, put him out obviously at receiver and everything, and he can make plays at any moment at any time.

1:36:37He's one of our explosive players. And just the, I guess, energy and vibes that he brings to our team, our locker room, out at practice, it's like our guy's back. So we're extremely happy to have Debo back.

1:36:48Pat McAfee:Saw highlights with multiple quarterbacks for one wide receiver that's had all the headlines seemingly out of your guys' camp this year. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Brock, a ton of highlights and a ton of headlines for Deshaun Stribling. Your second round pick, 33rd overall. It's basically a first round pick. Seems like he's been catching everything and it seems like you guys already have a great rapport. What has he done for that wide receiver room that joins Evans and Debo in your relationship so far? Yeah, man. Obviously really excited about him. He's a smart kid. He's come in and learned our offense.

1:37:18He's got strong hands. Great route runner. All the things, the reasons why we drafted him. He's showing it and proving it. But, you know, I think just having him in there with a guy like Mike Debo, Demarcus Robinson, like we got a great room of receivers. And so for him to be able to learn from them, but also be able to go out and show that, you know, he's willing to be in that starting rotation, man. Like he has shown that at camp. So we're all really excited about him. You know, we're going to have his back this year. It's a long year as a rookie. We get it. But he's shown flashes, man. So we're all really excited about him.

1:37:54Pat McAfee:I can't wait to watch you this year. I know you're farming this offseason because you're always in your John Deere face. Always got to be in my John Deere. That's right. Have no fear. Listen, if I'm not in my football helmet, I'm in my cockpit of my John Deere. That's right. You know, I know that's what you're doing. I know it's what you're doing. But out there on that field, the cornfield, just like the Iowa Barnstormers and Kurt Warner did back in the day, I know you're getting better. Throwing at different – what are those things that keep the – Scarecrow. Scarecrow. I know you're throwing at these scarecrows, these coyotes and all these birds out here.

1:38:27Pat McAfee:So I know you're doing that. What did you get better at this offseason, you think? Is there something that you had like a goal of to get better at or how did your offseason kind of go and your strategy into it? I think just – I know it sounds cheesy, but like the fundamentals with my footwork, you know, being deliberate and playing with a little bit more sense of urgency within the pocket with my feet, those are things that we sort of you know watched on film that came up it's I want to be more on top of you know going through my reads and just being more of a machine and so I think my quarterback coach Mick Lombardi was on me about it which I loved and I feel like during camp it's shown like the progress from OTAs till now just being fundamentally on top of it mentally learning from all the situational things that happened last year but putting those things together and just going out there and trying to be the best machine that I can be.

1:39:19Pat McAfee:Coach Lombo loves that you're turning into a machine more and more. You said you were going to run more, too. You said, I'll never be fast, obviously, but I feel like I can just get away. You know, I need 10, 12, maybe shit, 30, 40, 50, 60. Maybe I break through and go the entire way. Is this just something that you look back and watch film and think, man, I could have taken advantage of this opportunity right here, or is this just you're becoming more of an athlete because when you're hanging off the side of that John Deere, obviously you're doing full body exercises as you're planting that seed hoping for knee high by 4th of july brock purdy yeah i mean uh i don't know if i'll you know be a lamar jackson out there by any means but um there there are there's always times on film where it's like dude yeah i probably could use my feet there to pick up that first down and and whatnot but i think that's always within my training um you know to make sure that i'm in shape i'm athletic enough to you know get out of the pocket make plays off the scramble and whatnot so um i guess you could say that but yeah the john deere tractor out in the field and pushing it around and stuff i guess helped me out with my quads looking like bosa and everything so wow yeah it was good i can't believe you on old school john deere you say he's pushing that thing yeah you're tilling the land out there you're amish right now i didn't know you're that farmer i didn't know you're doing that that's amazing john deere's got the right guy yeah they do did you sniff out who the farmer was out of those five we watched the trailer for this i wish we could watch the entire episode but felt like you looking at the calluses and the fingernails was a good play that was a good play by you brock did you guys sniff it out we did uh the video is hilarious you got to watch it but i guess like you know they all had a story all the fake farmers and it sounded pretty real man but taking them through the challenges and you know trying to hear their lingo seeing if they're actually a natural farmer or not um it's a great watch so you guys you guys would love it on on behalf of john deere baby i heard you said what's your favorite rig what what's the name of this what's the name of this well this is john deere uh this is a four x40 i think okay thank you let's go are we eliminating people right now or what is the what is your favorite john deere rig if you had to really dive into that thing, Brock?

1:41:30Man, for me, it would probably be a 5095, a 5-series tractor. Hell of a sad. You can till up the land. You can go pick up trees. You can do all the things with it.

1:41:43Pat McAfee:Oh, my God, we could clear trails, you know, if we want to get down there. You know, we can kind of get through that with the 4955, 5078. Good machine. It's a damn good machine. I mean, now you're going to have to, you know, you're going to have to hop your ass up into that cockpit now. We got big wheels. Okay, we got big wheels because we have big shit to do. That's what we got. Hell yeah. Look how nice that is. Hey, you got a John Deere tattoo on you anywhere? Not yet. After this year, I might. So just give me some, I guess, options on where I should go. Maybe Ty can let me know where to put it.

1:42:15Pat McAfee:Yeah, right over your heart, typically. That's where I have mine. You have your John Deere tattoo? I thought you were going to get, like, branded, like, shoulder. Well, I've been branded before. Don't need to do that again. But, no, I got mine. I got mine over my heart. You know, I feel like if you're going to get a deer tattoo, you know, it says nothing runs like a deer. What's your favorite rig we were talking about? I'm more of a 44-40 guy myself. You know, simple, elegant, but we'll get the job done. Yeah. You've always been a 44-40 guy. I have been. You've never changed, even through all the years.

1:42:41Never would, you know.

1:42:43Pat McAfee:Before having kids, post having kids, a 44-40 has always been there for you. Reliable. And that's what this thing looks like right here. Bang! Take a trip back in time with our friend John Deere 44-40 there. Look at that one, Brock. You don't even know how to operate that. This is like Mission Impossible. You know, when Tom's with Miles and it's the old plane, they find out in the woods. That's what Ty's doing to Brock right now with the 44-40. You have no idea what's going on with this thing, Brock Purdy. You could never operate the 44-40. I just got a sense. You new age young guys have no idea what to do with this thing.

1:43:13Yeah. No, I have no idea. I'm just looking at that thing, and it sounds really loud. It seems slow. I'm about to do it stuff, man. So, Ty, you can have it.

1:43:20Pat McAfee:i like that i like i respect it i just need a gator i'm just a gator guy give me the john deer gator oh yeah it's not bad just get around just gotta get around there you know you obviously gotta do that all right i think we did enough for john d i thought i think you have done i think you have uh congrats on that partnership i know that's a huge deal actually like if you're an actual farmer having a john deer deal would almost be like a nike deal you know for like some other folks so congrats on that i assume you have a nike deal as well congrats on all the success working your ass off. You've been handed nothing in the NFL.

1:43:51Pat McAfee:You've earned it all. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Good luck out there. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you guys. Did you get taller? You look taller, too, in some of those highlights. Yeah, man. I think I'm like 6 '3 now. It's great. Look at that. Would have never been Mr. Relevant if they know now how tall he is. Ladies and gentlemen, Brock Purdy. Thank you, buddy. If he's that big, he might not be able to fit in that 44-40. You know what I mean? AJ, you know what we're talking about? Yep. I know exactly what we're talking about. You were pretty quiet when we got in that John Deere combo.

1:44:19Pat McAfee:Kind of embarrass yourself. I don't want to jump in. You guys know I got a 60-inch deck in my Z735M. You know that. He ain't lying. That's true. Pull it up. Pull it up, fellas. On Saturday night. Been roaming the yard for years in that sucker. With your splunking? Yeah. Plowed snow with that thing. Put a plow on the front. Pull it up, fellas. Talking to the back room. Boys, you know what I'm talking about. Please. 60-inch deck? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big boy. Yeah. Big boy. Bunch of ruts. Bunch of ruts in the yard right now because it's so wet out there. I don't care. I'll ruin the yard. Yeah, no problem.

1:44:56It comes back. No, the yard comes back. Can't baby your yard. I've told you that before. You baby your yard, you treat it like it's a fragile little situation. It'll never come back. But if you use that yard and you work the yard and you don't care about putting ruts in there, it'll eventually come back.

1:45:11Pat McAfee:Yeah, that's right. I mean, you're going to have to deal with ruts every time you do it, but it will certainly end up not having ruts. I'll smooth it over a little bit. I'll smooth it over. We'll figure it out. We can put some seed in, you know, maybe in the fall. Well, especially if you've got a front little compartment there on your 60-inch VZ400. You know what I mean? You've got to plot that. C-735M. Sorry. Hey, man. Good machine. How about Brock? We remember when he didn't get paid, right? He wasn't paid yet. He was still a seventh overall pick. Had a roommate whenever he was starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers who was a practice squad offensive lineman because they couldn't afford the apartment in which they were living there for a little bit.

1:45:44Pat McAfee:Then he got a big John Deere deal. like before he got his big deal, I think he got a John Deere deal, and they were shooting in San Francisco. Remember, he was walking into a John Deere tractor in San Francisco. Somebody picked it up, and we were, like, very happy for him. They got money. We felt like, hey, he got, like, actual money, because that was a real convo for a bit. You pick irrelevant, Mr. Irrelevant or whatever. Like, your signing bonus, ass. Your salary, low. Not ass in comparison to, like, real jobs, but whenever it comes, like, professional football, I mean, you're down there, like,$20 ,000,$30 ,000,$40 ,000 $25 ,000,$30 ,000 signing bonus maybe for Mr.

1:46:18Pat McAfee:Irrelevant there. You do California taxes, obviously. And how expensive San Francisco Santa Clara is to live with, you know, to begin with. And at the beginning of the season was nowhere near supposed to be the starting quarterback. So it's not like they like took care of him or got the entire thing set up. It's like this kid's living like a college kid basically in San Francisco. And he's the starting quarterback for the 49ers. And he's dealing right now. It was similar to the Russell Wilson situation in Seattle where he becomes a starter after they pay Matt Flynn. But Russell was in fourth round pick, I think.

1:46:45Pat McAfee:Third. Third round pick. So his salary was nowhere near what he was actually pulling off on the field. We're Super Bowl champs. We're doing all this stuff. And then when he finally gets paid, remember, he's in bed with Sierra. And it's like everybody's like happy he finally got his money. Brock Purdy, similar story. Even though he still has his detractors, I think he's an incredible American dream story in the NFL, actually. Especially with how many people dogged him, even whenever he was slicing and dicing people, strictly because, well, they didn't like him going in the draft. It's like, who cares?

1:47:10Pat McAfee:Are we watching what he's doing right now? He's awesome. He's never changed, and it feels like he is a sicko. You know, I heard him talking about his fundamentals, what he worked on his offseason, doing this, doing that. It's like, oh, yeah, he's a psycho, too. So I think we got a guy here for a long time in San Francisco if he can stay healthy. You know, that's kind of the big conversation, AJ. Yeah, and he said he wants to become more like a machine. That was an awesome way to phrase it, I think, so he can just bam, bam, bam, go through his progressions, know the right reads, all that stuff.

1:47:35Yeah, he's – every time you hear his teammates talk about him, too, like they love this dude, everyone on the roster, it seems like.

1:47:41Pat McAfee:Okay, let's talk about the next hour. Two to three, we'll be live on ESPN in between the Little League World Series games. I know people are pumped up about that, but we get an opportunity to showcase college football, AJ. We got a hell of a lineup. Obviously, Pete Dammel's leading the way. Yep. Yep. I assume Pete has this in his rider that he's got to take front and center if he's ever on a graphic. I thought he was amazing. You're right. Peanut M &Ms. Yep. Okay, probably Wayne's Whiskey. Yeah. Probably shuck down some Wano. Double Wano. We're going to shut down some Wayne O 'Grechke whiskey out of Canada.

1:48:12Pat McAfee:Maybe a snow hat for the after party. Yeah, need a toque. A toque. A sweet toque so I can look like Bee Rabbit. Of course, everybody in the 3-1-3, put your hands in the air and follow Pete. That's what I say. People get real excited about it. Pete Thamel will be joining us. Matt Campbell, obviously we chit-chat with Brock Purdy about that. He served 10 years, he said, at Iowa State. He certainly did. Brock Purdy talked about it, which was incredible. Rich Rodriguez of West Virginia. And Stanford Steve has West Virginia in the Big 12 title game. Wow, Steve-o. Yeah. And I'll tell you, if Rich Rod is able to have a team that is relevant, and obviously with our positioning in the football world, he is an entertaining character.

1:48:52Pat McAfee:This is a guy that college football would love having back in the big stage. I mean, it would be good for Ball for Rich Rod to have a little bit more of these in front of him as he goes forward, strictly because he is old school. This is an old school football coach who obviously has modern technology, especially with his offense and how he's treating everything. But he is, hey, we're dogs only around here. This is, what are we talking about? It's football. And the way he talks as a hillbilly from West Virginia is spectacular. So I can't wait to catch up with him and see how he thinks. He said the other day, young guys are soft.

1:49:27Pat McAfee:Just soft. It was shit. Absolute shit. He said it looked like they were out there with a bunch of pillows. I don't know what that is. I guess it's on the coaches probably, I guess. But just soft. It's 74. I mean, I need a 100-degree day here. We haven't had any IVs. We haven't had any IVs. I'm looking for IVs around here. We haven't had any of these guys. Soft camp is what he's saying. It's like, all right, I'm excited to hear how he actually thinks or what he tells us. But obviously he'll be joining us. Then we have Coach Cristobal joining us. Mario Cristobal, who obviously I think he got an extension to coach down there in Miami this offseason.

1:50:02Pat McAfee:He's obviously earned it. Makes it to the finals last year of the college football playoff with Carson Beck. Has new quarterback in town from Duke, who was the ACC champion last year. Excited to catch up with him. And then Nick Saban will join us to wrap it all up to talk about the South and how the South is going to be better. Now, we did reach out to a few other coaches to see if they could join us. Obviously, short notice. We started scheduling this this morning. We were trying to have reps from everywhere. The SEC, we did reach out to a couple coaches. Coach Saban will obviously fill in for the South.

1:50:30Not that he doesn't always. They'll be okay with that.

1:50:33Pat McAfee:Not that he doesn't always. But if you look here, we have the ACC, the Big Ten, the Big 12, and obviously the SEC. Good for us. You see, that is just kind of a representative from all the Power Four conferences. You see that, AJ? I do see that. That's well played. Fair and equal. Thank you. A lot of lines in the water this morning. Yeah, we should do a college. It's less than a week to college football. Let's go ahead and do a little bit. The graphic is still killing me. I love the graphic. What do you mean? He's just talking on everybody out front. Just so good. Who's this guy? rich rod yeah i assume rich rod isn't doing a lot of leaking of uh information to anybody ever i would like to know how you got to balance that though these days because like players agents are definitely angling for narratives right like if guys aren't gonna play hey somebody's having a great training camp right hey this guy looks unbelievable right now if he's not gonna get any reps in real time the narrative has to be good players still so that there's contracts still out there.

1:51:32Pat McAfee:It's professional football now is what college football is, which is basically what we were talking about in the first hour with Drew Rosenhaus. I don't know if you got a chance to catch up with any of that. He's like, I don't think this is great, but I got to do this for my guy because this is what has been presented. And I think that's how a lot of people feel about all of it. Basically. It feels like we all like, don't know day to day, what the next ruling is going to bring, what's going to happen. I know that's why Pete will help us here at 205. But yeah, I don't, you never know like what the regulations are going to be, when any of these guardrails are coming up and then they can change on a dime and all of a sudden next day something's different no one ever knows man no but the ball is as long as the play on the field is as good as it is we are good to go and the environments are still going to be the environments hopefully those continue forever it's like college football will always be an electrifying piece of content oh boy it'll be an electrifying piece of content that's why everything around it's so chaotic because it is so awesome and we're lucky to be a part of it college football showcase will be happening on ESPN here in a matter of moments, as well as YouTube and also Disney Plus, ESPN Plus.

1:52:36Pat McAfee:We're very lucky and thankful to be doing this for a living. It's been hot in the kitchen. It certainly has been, but hey, very thankful to be doing it all. This football season is going to be fantastic. We hope you have the greatest weekend of your life. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're interesting together. See you on Monday. Goodbye. Okay, let's take a break. We're back at noon. Okay, everybody, we're back at noon with College Football Showcase. Let's go ahead and flip the switch. Here we go. Flip it. Flip it. Okay, we'll be back in three minutes and two o 'clock.

1:53:05Pat McAfee:Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. Goodbye.

1:53:14Pat McAfee:Football! He's the greatest. And for this next hour, before the next Little League World Series game, as we just saw, Iowa beat California in a thriller. And if New Jersey's playing, I got a good feeling that that guy who's their pitcher and home run hitter is going to show up and show out. I got New Jersey to beat the entire world strictly because of one young lad. Now, a Little League World Series will be in about 59 minutes. Until then, myself, that's A.J. Hawk, the toxic table here at Boston Corner and that's Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys AP Tone. We'll be chit-chatting with people from all around the college football world.

1:53:48Pat McAfee:We will have a representative and a coach from all four power conferences. Hell yeah. We will have a representative from the Big 12 and Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia University. Nice. Now, Stanford Steve says that West Virginia is going to be in the Big 12 title game. That is the only reason why I'm having Rich Rod on to represent the Big 12. This is not a biased opinion. A little West Virginia love on this college football showcase, but we'll be chit-chatting with him. We'll go to the ACC. Obviously, we'll have Coach Mario Cristobal, who led the Miami Hurricanes to the finals last year. Got a contract extension.

1:54:15Pat McAfee:Looking to gear up and maybe dominate the ACC yet again. Even though the last time we chatted with him, he said, Clemson's a good football team. Clemson's a good football team. Duke's the reigning ACC champs. Nobody's talking about them. And Mike Norvell is obviously on the hot seat down at Florida State. Can they get things together? And then we'll also be joined from the Big Ten. Matt Campbell will be joining us. He's brand new at Penn State. People are saying things are looking up and to the right. He's got Rocco Beck to quarterbacks. He's played, I don't know, 700 games of college football over there at Iowa State.

1:54:42Pat McAfee:Knows the offense very well. And then at the SEC level, we'll have Nick Saban on. This will be an absolute blast as we kind of bounce around the college football landscape as we're less than a week from week zero kicking off. We had the AP poll come out, top 25. The Ohio State Buckeyes, number one in the country. Congratulations, A.J. Hawk. The Big Ten reigns supreme at one and two. Georgia's the highest-ranked SEC school, and then Notre Dame at four, followed by Texas. A.J., the Ohio State Buckeyes, obviously loaded. Last year didn't make the finals. What a failure. Didn't make it a national championship.

1:55:17Pat McAfee:What an absolute bummer of a year it was for the Ohio State Buckeyes. The expectations are win a national championship or not. Ryan Day has done that. That'll continue to be the expectations. Jeremiah Love stays instead of going to Miami. They pick up Chris Henry Jr. They lose a bunch of guys, but have a bunch of guys filling in. The Ohio State Buckeyes have become a factory, AJ. How has that happened? And is this forever over there in Columbus? Yeah, I would assume everyone assumes or wants it to be forever. And this is kind of how it goes. Once you establish yourself as one of the dominant teams in college football, obviously players want to continue to come there and they keep developing.

1:55:51putting guys in the NFL. But you're right. There's going to be a lot of guys that have to step up that have not been tested really on the field yet. And they're obviously very high-star, like, you know, four - or five-star guys that are highly recruited. But, yeah, let's see what they do on the field this year.

1:56:03Pat McAfee:Dan Lanning has a lot of his team all the way back. Kirby Smart cooking down there in Athens. Not a lot of noise coming out of the Georgia Bulldogs, right? Number three in the country. Notre Dame, C.J. Carr, obviously. Archie Manning with the five overall Texas Longhorns. And then Josh Hoover, new quarterback for the Indiana University the Hoosiers down there in Bloomington as the reigning national champs. They got a lot of returners too. And Signetti's got a system, and now he's getting five stars in highly sought-after transfer portal guys, as opposed to the guys that he had to pick and choose.

1:56:34Pat McAfee:IU's behind him, the entire state's behind him. They got NIL money, and they're getting to pick who's coming. Feels like Sig's always going to be in the mix. Cristobal at seven, Texas A &M, Ole Miss and Oklahoma round out the top ten of the AP poll. Joining us now is a man who has all the inside information for everything happening around college sports, both basketball and football. He is the authority from College Game Day, both the podcast and the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Thamble. Hey, Pete! How you doing, Pete? I'm great. Fire whoever made that graphic and put me in the front of it.

1:57:07The Hall of Fame coaches are all behind. Hopefully it wasn't like Foxy or somebody we like. But that's a poor job. It wasn't. It wasn't. What do you think? It was D-bone.

1:57:19Pat McAfee:Now, granted, D-Bone was put on a little bit of a time crunch, and we know how his brain operates in general, but certainly on a little bit of a time crunch. And I think he thought, well, Pete's leading this thing off show. Let's put him in the front of the flying V here as the Ducks come together to potentially showcase to the world what college football currently is. We'll talk to the coaches that you referred to as Hall of Fame coaches, which probably will be all of them, about what's going on on the field. Let's talk about what's going on off the field right now. It feels like there's chaos.

1:57:47Pat McAfee:You told us yesterday, hey, listen, there's never going to be stability. Okay, listen, it's chaos. That's what college football is. We had an injunction to an injunction. Now we had another injunction. Can you tell me what's going on and what should we expect from this five for five guys in the NFL potentially playing in college football next season? Where do we stand right now, Pete? Injunction, injunction sounds like a show Teddy Thamel would watch on like PBS or something. Schoolhouse Rock. Yeah, there we go. So today there was actually. You got the reference. Good job. What's your function?

1:58:18A big development in the Winsey case out of Colorado. Now, this was the federal case for class of 22, five for fives. And the initial ruling in this had allowed a somewhat blanket but not total federal ruling where you could come back and get a 50-year if you were a four-year player who had left colleges. Today, the NCAA got a stay in this case, which basically means the initial ruling was overruled. So in a practical matter, Pat, what this means is if you want to petition sue for a fifth year, you're going to now have to do it at the state level. So it actually somehow makes all this messier because guys like Stephen Daly went back to Indiana, for example.

1:59:08if Stephen Daly is now going to play his fifth year, he is going to have to, you know, petition through a state court, local court. He just he was signed on the premise that he would get eligibility because of this Colorado ruling. And that is now no longer the case. And I've been told they may appeal, but the timeline won't won't sync up. So this we are now operating on a state by state basis for anyone petitioning for a 50.

1:59:36Pat McAfee:Okay. So to put things simpler for that daily case, which is not an NFL case or the Louisiana case, he would have to basically get an Indiana judge to say, yeah, actually you're good to play here for your fifth year. You were kind of screwed because the fifth year rule didn't come until after you decided to leave. Correct. Now it wouldn't have to be an Indiana judge. There are some guys who have filed in other states from which they'd playing in i know that there's a tennessee case a south carolina case there's a more than a dozen of these local cases so um probably again i'm not a lawyer would be smarter to glom onto one that's been successful as opposed to trying to apply your own path remember pat i mean we play in like what nine days week zero week zero six days from now thursday night yes so that's why we're doing this right now pete we are less than a week away from college football starting right now we are yeah Yes, which is awesome.

2:00:29And I'm really excited to watch actual games. So for Daly, for example, he's going to have to he's going to continue to practice. He and Wyatt, but they're going to have to find a legal path now, a different legal path to to get eligibility. Now, the state case in Louisiana that caused all the headlines yesterday and obviously the jarring optics of seeing a running back in the NFL or a defensive end in the NFL make plays in a preseason game. and then potentially enter the portal and potentially come back to college, this is not affected by the Colorado ruling. So this is now exactly the pathway that these guys need to take.

2:01:09You need to have the friendly local judge, if you will, create a pathway for you to come back. I hear the chuckles from the peanut gallery there. There's a little cynicism. This system is about. Ah, the goof truth.

2:01:23Pat McAfee:Thanks, Pete. Yeah, there was a little bit of a chuckle because everybody just automatically goes straight into a movie whenever they hear a judge grant something. We did it with Trinidad. Yeah. Wow, he gets another year, huh? Who did that? Oh. Is that an Ole Miss advisor judge? That's a running rep. Oh, that's it. No, actually, they went to a different school, thank you, in Mississippi. But yes, it is Mississippi. Sorsby. Well, how about, what's that? Is that a Texas judge? Where'd he go to school? I saw a Facebook post. It looks like he's got guns up. He's got guns up. So what's going on? That's what everybody naturally thinks.

2:01:59Pat McAfee:But we have to remember that all these judges are by the book. They better be. That's what we said. Pete Tamble saying something else. I would like it to be on the record that this particular show thinks all these judges are just by the book. Now, with this particular situation, AJ has a last question for you. Yeah, Pete, as far as watching a guy go spend an internship basically out of the training camp with an NFL team and then come back and play in college, is this going to be a one-time thing or is this something that could possibly come up in the future? this should be aj one-time thing uh because the eligibility rules were in this because they passed these eligibility rules mid-june or whenever it was right and now um the guys are suing off that ruling once those rules are codified there should not we should not have these wacky optics again um but it's this is college sports and there's there's a lot of local judges um but i would be pretty stunned if moving on from here we see a similar path.

2:03:00Pat McAfee:You're the man Pete, we appreciate you joining us. Keep pounding the pavement out there so we can get to the bottom of it all, please. You're the man. That's why you're in the front of the graphic, ladies and gentlemen. It's Pete Tam. Yay, Peter! Listen, you need to fire whoever made that. I hope it's not somebody that we like. It's like, oh Pete, who do we hate in here? Who do we Well, we know one guy from the That would be a rabid era. Oh, Bruce. Yeah, true. Yeah, Bruce. That jackass who got in my face. Remember 3 a.m. after national championships, nobody's planes could leave because there was a storm.

2:03:32Pat McAfee:And Bruce, your guy, I believe was a bit boozed up. Shirt was off, Robert. Boozy Bruce. He was a Michigan guy. And he came up to me and said, what's up, Buckeye Pete? And I should get out of my face. Everyone in the 313, that's actually what Bruce did. Get your motherfucking hands up and follow me. And now look at us. We're all thick as thieves. Yes, sir. Well, I don't know if you were thick as thieves with Pete. I think he was talking about you whenever he said that guy needs to leave. But let's move along because let's go from what's happening off the field, which is always going to be drama and chaotic is what Pete's saying and everybody from college football.

2:04:00Pat McAfee:So let's go what's going on the field. Huge move happened up in State College, Pennsylvania last season. Obviously, they move on from James Franklin after like week five. Game day had been there three weeks beforehand, and then there's a massive turnover. Who's going to be their head coach? Who are they going to land? Do they have no plan? What the hell? Then they land maybe the coaching hire of the entire offseason. Ladies and gentlemen, formerly of Iowa State, now the head coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions. We can't thank him enough for joining us. Hall of Fame coach, ladies and gentlemen, Matt Campbell.

2:04:26Yeah, coach! How you doing? Thanks for having me, you guys. I appreciate it.

2:04:32Pat McAfee:Dude, thank you for joining us. I think you caught the tail end there of Pete Thamel talking about the chaos right now happening and all the injunctions. How much do you got to pay attention to that type of stuff? I assume it does affect everybody, especially at the highest level. Is this something you pay attention to every day? Do you have somebody looking into this? How do you kind of view all the off-the-field chaos that's currently happening? Yeah, you know, Pat, I still think we live in a world where if you start to worry about all the craziness that's going on around us, then I think you can really quickly lose sight of what's going on in your own building.

2:05:01And, you know, it's a unique time. It's a crazy time. But I think when you lose focus of the 18 to 22, 23 year olds that you're in charge of, then I think you can really lose focus of your team fast. So we've really tried to concentrate on everything here in-house, worry about ourselves. I still think it's about creating team. And the best team still wins on Saturdays, and I think that's got to be the focus in-house, and that's really what we've tried to put our focus on.

2:05:28Pat McAfee:Yeah, and I think your answer right there is why a lot of NFL teams wanted your services, and obviously you had been with Iowa State for a very long time. We just had Brock Purdy on. He obviously thanked you for your service to Iowa State. You going to Penn State, the natural reaction from a lot of people was, man, what he was able to do at Iowa State, Now he's going to have the backing of Penn State, which has one of the best, I think, sports support systems in all of sport. I think we've learned that through not only going up there, but also watching what they've done. Number one hockey player, basketball, volleyball, you name it, they're going all in.

2:05:58Pat McAfee:Football will do a$700 million upgrade to Beaver Stadium over the weekend. It's like they are all in on sports. So the thought of you having everything that Penn State has to offer, the brand Penn State as a whole, what does that do for you? Are we blowing that out of proportion that, you know, going to Penn State is a massive, massive opportunity for you to take advantage of what some other schools have been able to do? And how do you view that as a whole? Well, I think in a couple ways, Pat. And I think you, me, AJ can at least understand growing up in this, man, four to six hour radius of this area.

2:06:35What is the history of Penn State football has meant to the world of college football? And I think before anything else in terms of revenue and all the stuff that happens, you're in a place where the high school football, six to eight hours around our campus, it's as good as anywhere in the country. and the opportunity to be around a program and be a part of a program that can give a young man, 18 to 22 years old, the opportunity to chase every goal and dream, not only on the field of football, but off the field because of the leadership, because of the commitment, and really because of those that came before us ever that stepped on the field and made it really important to play the game of football at Penn State.

2:07:18It's a really special opportunity, And it would have taken – it had to be the right opportunity for me to leave what we were able to accomplish and what we did at Iowa State. And we really felt like the value system in this community, in the state of Pennsylvania, in the six-hour radius around us. Man, that fit who I was, our family, and really our coaching staff. And we're really grateful to be here.

2:07:40Pat McAfee:I love to hear that. And I think everybody's very excited for you. And it feels like it wasn't a messy exit either, which is normally how it normally goes. And I think that's because of how you've handled it all. and obviously how Iowa State has handled it all. And also you have an athletic director over there who's worn a cowboy collar in Big Ten football. So I don't know how many other places have that. AJ has a question for you, Matt. Yeah, Coach, obviously I know you've been on the grind in camp, working day to day for that, but have you given any thought to what it's going to feel like running out of that tunnel for the first time, leading your Penn State squad out on that gigantic stadium?

2:08:10Obviously you have players. It'll be some of their first time as well. But you as a coach, I guess, how do you control your emotions in that situation? Yeah, and you know, I think it just goes back to what I said earlier, AJ, you know, number one is, I think you're so caught up in the present right now, you know, the unique challenge that we're under of creating a team and creating a team that's ready to respond to real adversity by the time, man, less than two weeks come at us. But I do, I would be remiss not to say, man, 10, 30, 11 o 'clock every night and you look at this expansion and the lights on in this stadium.

2:08:47And there's not even a couple of nights where you're kind of like, man, you kind of sneak into the stadium and you walk around and you say, look, look at this place and look how special it is to play in one of the one of the great, you know, the great places to play college football. And we're really fortunate to do it. I'm excited for the opportunity, but I'm more excited to give our fan base in this university, a team that can represent the history of this place the right way.

2:09:11Pat McAfee:Obviously you sound like a guy that doesn't need an alarm clock. What is, what is the morning routine for you? And is the alarm clock? Whoa.

2:09:25Is that the. It does need to be that Pat. I don't need an alarm clock, but I will take that and we'll make sure that's on repeat here for a long time.

2:09:34Pat McAfee:See that? Here we go. Now we're getting better. You talk about being one of the best places to play all of college sport. That is very real. And that song, that DJ, the in-game DJ, I don't know if you've made any changes or are currently looking at all that. Don't. The timing in which they play music and what songs they play makes that place feel alive at all times. Even if on the field it's not going great, they're ready to jump in and actually fight people for you. Now, let's talk about who you have over there. I know you've made your office smaller and obviously trying to change the entire culture over there to be your type of way.

2:10:06Pat McAfee:You've got a lot of people you like. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, first and foremost, I'd like to say as a native of Iowa and an Iowa alum, I was pretty jacked up that you are no longer the head coach of Iowa State, so it was pretty bittersweet finding out you were going to Penn State, and I was probably going to be seeing you every year anyway. But congratulations nonetheless. how important was it for you you know bringing Taylor Mauser with you and some of your support staff and obviously Rocco uh not only for you know the um the continuity that you're going to have but kind of being able to immediately build your culture uh right away right when you got there yeah well first Ty I I'm excited I am a fan of the show and I'm I'm excited that hopefully we can get you on our side.

2:10:51I know that's been tough for you and I appreciate that. I'm a huge Kirk Ferentz fan. I have great respect for him so we have that in common but hopefully we can get you on our side a little bit moving forward. But you know I would say the continuity piece you win with people. You know it's why you guys have had so much success. It's why we haven't been able to have so much success in our past is because we have had great people in every corner from our academics, nutrition, strength and conditioning, life after football, to our great coaches that have been great developers of our players to our players.

2:11:30And I think the uniqueness of college football today, in a lot of ways, we were able to pick up our program and some of the nuts and bolts of what made our program special and just move it over to where we are right here at Penn State. And so I think to have Taylor Mauser, to have so many of those pieces to come in and that were great pieces of the development of our players at Iowa State, which is we had to be better than anybody in that, just to even compete. To have so many of those staff members come with us, that was really big. And then to not say, and to have Rocco here. I mean, what he means, we've been developing an offense for the last four years around him.

2:12:09And to be able to watch his growth process and even what he had to fight through last year, some really tough injuries, and how that guy played at the finish of the season through the injuries he had, I think shows everything about what makes that guy really special. I think those were huge advantages for us, and I think it'll give us a great opportunity to build the right foundation as we get ready for the season.

2:12:29Pat McAfee:Rocco Beck, son of West Virginia legend Anthony Beck, obviously, like to have a little West Virginia tie into any school if they want to have success. You know that, Coach Campbell. Last question from me and for us, We appreciate your time here today on this college football showcase. You wear a whistle all the time. We got a whistle around the neck all the time, everywhere we go. Not, not all the time, but we do have a walkthrough here in about, in about a half hour. So I'm ready to rock and roll. I like that. What are you a soft whistle, double whistle? What is your normal? Oh no, I'm, I'm old school whistle.

2:13:00Not, not one of these new ones that all these, these young guys got. I'm old school.

2:13:03Pat McAfee:Can't get a lot of spit in those ones though. Those ones get a little excited. that you get called. You don't need that. I know you're not doing that. That's why they brought you in. We don't need any in the middle of practice. People think you're going to lose every game. That is not what you do. You're a winner, man. That's why Penn State got very lucky that they hired you. And I'm sure they're appreciative just like you are. And we appreciate you, man. Have a good one. Good luck out there. All right, guys. Thanks so much for having me. Really appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of Penn State, Matt Campbell.

2:13:30Pat McAfee:Head coach. The worst. You need the Fox 40 whistle. That's the best. That's the best. It's got the little hood on it. It's a good one. I don't know if it's got a hood on it. It's the one that the most NFL refs use, yeah. Yeah. And also, I like the way – I think my favorite thing about what the refs are able to do in the NFL, and I guess college they do it too, the play, the down on the fingers, how smooth they are with that. Every once in a while, you know, kind of check out the ref's hands, see what down is, see if they're on with the – they're very good with that. And then the double – That thing's sweet.

2:14:06Pat McAfee:That thing's pretty sick. The handheld. Yeah, the on the two fingers there. Yeah, I like that. It does affect, I think, the – It's got to. It's got to be the other one. They've got to put the down markers on one hand and the whistle on the other hand. Oh, good call, AJ. That's a guy that's blowing a whistle and done a down marker. Yeah, you're right. That's a dad who's coaching a lot of different teams. I just talk to refs and watch them. Yeah. Why don't you put them both in the same hand? That's common sense. Yeah, I know, but I didn't know if you had to work with something else, dude. You've got to throw a flag somewhere.

2:14:32Pat McAfee:I never know. Something's going to happen. You're right. I'll tell you what, the way you talk to refs sounds like a lot different than how I talk to refs. And joining us now, I don't know how he talks to refs now, but I do know that I've seen it in the past. An absolute legend, Hall of Famer, ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the West Virginia Mountaineers, Rich Rodriguez. Yeah, Rod. Hey, guys. Hey, listen, I have never had a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty called against me. Never, never in 40 years. I've deserved a lot, but I never had one. I don't know what the hell happened, but I got lucky.

2:15:04Pat McAfee:I think that's because you're working them, you know. Hey, that's a good call early. You know, that's a good call early. You got to work them a little bit. Obviously, every advantage is there. Let's talk about your team this year. Stanford Steve just put out this morning his projections for the Big 12. West Virginia in the Big 12 title game. Now, yeah. Yeah, you know. You can't be doing that, man. We're trying to run a sneak attack here. We got one returning starter. I'm hoping to get a first down. You know, I'm hoping nobody gets hurt, you know, and we shake hands afterwards and wish each other well and all that kind of stuff.

2:15:35And now he's going to come out and make some bold predictions. Wow. Wow. We got to live up to that. Is that your first time seeing that?

2:15:42Pat McAfee:Is that your first time seeing that right there? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Was this late last night or was this? I think it was this morning. I think it was this morning. Stanford Steve put it out there. So maybe the boys in the locker room haven't seen it. Well, I've always thought a lot of him. He's really, really smart. So I hope he's there. There you go. Yeah, that's a good idea. Stanford, you know, it's a big brain guy, obviously, naturally. But I think what he sees is you bring in Coach Trickett back to coach the offensive line. You got some studs in there that maybe in years past we hadn't been able to get.

2:16:09Pat McAfee:We have a quarterback seemingly that's electrifying. It does feel like vibes are high. Then I hear you talking after practice. And you go, soft, these young guys, fucking pillow fighting out here. I'm sick of it. It's disgusting. I hear it all. Is that what you say every training camp feels like? Yes. But where do you think the West Virginia Mountaineers are right now versus maybe last year? Well, I definitely think if we played last year's team, I think we'd beat them for sure. But the biggest difference is even though we only have one or two returning starters, kind of like last year, we only have one or two returning starters from our team.

2:16:41We intentionally tried to find guys, whether from group of five or group of six or one AA or whatever, guys that had proven production at other places. And so they had experience, just not an experience in our system. and I really like the way it's fit. You know, we went from zero offensive linemen that had started games to having seven or eight that have started multiple games in their career and that was kind of the same in every position. You know, we went out and wanted one transfer quarterback to compete with Scotty Fox and Mike Hawkins and he's been everything we thought he would be and, you know, defensively we got a bunch of no-names but our Coach Alley and our defensive staff have done a great job putting them together.

2:17:21We're, I mean, it's still going to be a work in progress a little bit at times But I like our athleticism. I like the way they're practicing. And I think it will be a little bit better than most of the pundits expect, other than Stanford Steve. He's already got us up there.

2:17:36Pat McAfee:Yeah, Stanford Steve's really gassing you guys up. Okay, the boys in the locker room, obviously dogs only, which goes to your point there about who you brought in. I think it's 4 ,000 snaps on the offensive line, 13 ,000 snaps in total that you bring in. So, obviously, we saw Signetti do similar things whenever he went into Indiana, which leads to Connor's question for you, Coach. Yeah, Rod, a bunch of new guys, but do you feel like going into year two, your kind of culture as a whole is established? People know exactly what they're getting into. The guys on the team know what they're getting into and what everything's about them, what you expect out of every single person every single day?

2:18:11Yeah, good question. Even though we had 75, 80 new guys, there's still about 25 or 30 that were with us last year and kind of helped explain the culture. Not only that, but the staff. You know, we have a few new coaches, but everybody around the programs understands the way we want to do things. And not that we're, you know, we're reinventing the wheel or doing something so unique, but there is a certain way. And Pat knows this, how we practice our expectations and the type of hard edge that we expect everybody in our program to deal with. And that's not normal. You know, everything nowadays tends to be soft.

2:18:45You know, that everything wants everybody to be soft. How can I make it easy for you? And that's to understand. Every parent wants things easier for their kids than they had for themselves, right? Well, we try to teach our guys we're going to make it harder for you. So you learn to be harder, to learn how to work a little bit extra. So that will carry with you for the rest of your life, and it will carry in our program. And I think it's setting in. You know, I will find out as a result in the next year or so. But, you know, the harder edge, you know, that we're trying to get is maybe a little more difficult nowadays than it was in the Pat McAfee days when he was playing for me.

2:19:18But I still think it's possible. and I'll continue to do that as long as I'm coaching.

2:19:24Pat McAfee:You got to get the right guys, but it does feel like we have the right type of guys in there in this era, in this generation. After talking to the team, getting a chance to be back in there and kind of feel the lads, see the lads, see what's going on, it does feel like you got dogs in there, a lot more than I'd seen potentially in the past. And I told them what you just said right there. I'm like, I went to Hard Edge University, okay? I went to WVU. Yes, I showed up at TESS. Okay, I did. I showed up at TESS at WVU. The rest of the time, it's going to be tough to find me. Did have a good time downtown, probably a little bit too much, but I feel like we built team chemistry out there, okay?

2:19:55Yeah, a lot of bonding nights at Pat McAfee's house. Yeah, bingo, yes, exactly. Later after the fact, but that's good.

2:20:01Pat McAfee:For the good of the team, for the good of the team, obviously. That's what we have. Hey, listen, I heard five different stories from last night. They all started at your fucking house, okay? So I need to know whatever happened, okay? So hilarious, but I did go to Hard Edge University, and I carry a lot of the things that you taught us and me through every day of my life. I think that's a big deal for this modern generation. And I think you've got guys in there that don't mind it, that they kind of like it. And I think they understand the benefit of that while also getting paid, while also having a chance to go to the CFP.

2:20:30Pat McAfee:I mean, we're in the Big 12. There's a path to the college football playoff and win the entire national championship. It's a good place to be. I think it's a good thing, not a bad thing, that you're a little bit different than maybe some others, Rich. Yeah, and I think once they get experience it, they like it. Because everybody, nobody's immune to being coached. People have asked me, say, how do you coach now that they're getting paid? like hell you can coach them harder that they're getting paid they got more to lose but the good players and aj and everybody knows this the good players want to be coached but you got to know what you're talking about and and once the players know that you know what you're talking about and that everybody gets coached everybody is is uh it cuts co by the same kind of rules they have a certain respect for each other and i think it's harder nowadays maybe to build a team chemistry because you don't have everybody there for four or five years so you still got to have ways for people to kind of bond.

2:21:18I always thought the people that go through hard stuff together make some bond. That's why Rick Trick is such a great online coach. They go through hard stuff together and it helps bond them. We want our whole team to experience that kind of a result.

2:21:31Pat McAfee:Yeah, tour of duty certainly did that. Summer workouts certainly did that. I mean, practice just on Wednesday. Let's go back. Start it over, period one. One of my favorite moves you've ever done. They had them mic'd up. They had them mic'd up. They had Coach Rod mic'd up for a practice. and it was awesome. As a player's perspective, it was awesome that he was mic'd up during practice. Rich, now that you and I know each other a lot more at this stage in your life, you can tell how happy I was that you were mic'd up for a fucking practice, at least the beginning of practice. That's when special teams is and everything.

2:22:04Pat McAfee:Mike goes off, let's say period four or five. Period four or five, Mike goes off. They kind of go. Him coming back going, you think, that's what you guys, from the top, horn starts. We go from the – it was the greatest – it was the most entertaining, but also it was like an expectation and accountability from you that was every day. It was constant, man. It was constant. The amount of energy that you have to kind of spend to do that is very abnormal. So I and everybody else that's ever played for you appreciate it, but it is a standard that's very hard to keep up with, I would say. I would say.

2:22:38Pat McAfee:And you know that, I think, now at this point. Yeah, and everybody looks at – you know, like even now I've got a lot of really good coaches, but everybody kind of maybe evaluates the film a little bit differently. I said, I'm going to be the effort coach all the time, and my standard of playing hard is probably a little bit higher than yours. I want your coaches' playing hard standard to be the same as mine. I want the players all to be the same. And sometimes they don't even realize the players, they don't think they're loafing when they are loafing. And, you know, there were times last year where it was like, golly, they almost maybe want to puke, you know, that they didn't even realize they were loafing.

2:23:09And so that every year, that's going to get a little bit better, a little bit better, a little bit better, but I don't have the patience to wait another year or two. Hell, we've got to get it done now. Amen. Coach and effort, people say you shouldn't have the coach effort at this level, whatever. You still do. I still think that's part of what we do, and probably it's the most important thing that we do as coaches every day with our guys.

2:23:30Pat McAfee:AJ has a last question for you here, Coach. Yes, Coach, a follow-up on that effort situation. Do you show them clips of maybe how it's done from teams in the past? How do you coach? I think that as a person that coaches young kids and helping out coach different football teams, you assume everybody knows how to play hard, but they don't. You kind of have to show them the standard. Yeah, I like to show them some of our current players when they do that. Unfortunately, I'll probably show up more times when they don't do it. Oh, yeah. They have to point out examples. Do you think you're playing hard?

2:23:58Because sometimes guys don't realize it. So I probably need to be more positive than I am. The negative kind of stands out to me, and I want to get that corrected right away. because I took a whole meeting yesterday and showed 20 of the dumbest plays in the history of college football. You know, like guys dropping a ball before they cross the end zone or loafing and costing a play or whatever. But I probably could be more positive. But right now I'm positive that we'll get our ass kicked if we don't play better.

2:24:30Pat McAfee:You're the best. You're the absolute best. You with the laser pointer at the end of a cowboy, that's when you know you're in for it. That's when you know, hey, somebody's about to get it right now. And nobody knows who. Because like you said, everybody's getting coached. The standard is the standard. I'm excited for you. Actually, Tone has a quick question for you here, Coach. Yeah, Coach, it's a question. Everybody wants to know when are you going to make your decision on Michael Hawkins Jr. or Scotty Fox, the quarterbacks that you talked about? Are you going to use the first two games against the non-powerful guys?

2:25:01Are they going to get both playing time in that one, or is it a decision you want to make before the season starts? No, and I'll know. I'll probably know right now. But I think our first game's at noon. I'll probably let everybody know at 11.59 at a.m. Like, why the hell I got to tell everybody? I'll let the kids know for sure. And they're players. Most people in the program will probably know leading up to game week. But I don't think about that. I just want to make sure whoever's out there is playing well.

2:25:28Pat McAfee:And we're trying to get first down. Trying to get a first down, Pat. Tom, you guys know that. Hey, man, you're the best. Good luck. Thank you for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. and the head coach of West Virginia, Rich Rodriguez. Yeah, coach. All right, we go from Morgantown, West Virginia, to old rival in the Big Ten. National championship finalist. Doesn't want to hear that, okay? But you get it. A man who has obviously flipped a university back into what we've all expected it to be. Bunch of dogs, great football, hell of a fan base. And, oh, my God, can that coach beat the shit out of every other coach?

2:26:01Pat McAfee:Potentially. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Miami Hurricane football team, Mario Cristobal. Yeah, coach! What's up, dudes? Hola, mi amigo. ¿Qué pasa? Your Spanish is still brutal. I thought I nailed that. It didn't sound pretty smooth. I thought it was pretty smooth there. Muchas gracias for your compliments, obviously. We will just talk about football, I guess, in English for the audience, not for us, obviously. How is training camp going? How's the team? Obviously, high expectations now for any team you're coaching at Miami. I think what you've done over the last two years has put expectation levels forever very high.

2:26:41Pat McAfee:Congratulations on that. How do you feel about this year's team? I don't want to say trying to keep up with last year's team, but separate themselves from last year while also being great. Yeah, it's a 2026 team, and we've made that clear. No one, this is not last year's team tied into last year's accomplishments, and it's about as hot and as muggy as it can get, and we have taken everybody, every player, every coach, all the way to the edge. And we still got two weeks to do some more. And there's been a lot of progress and a lot more to be done. But it's been a physical camp. We've knocked each other around really good.

2:27:13And we do feel like we're building more competitive depth. But miles to go, man. You know, you see a lot of great stuff, but miles to go.

2:27:20Pat McAfee:Okay, so you talk about, you know, it's muggy, it's hot, we're battling. It's a different team than last year. And we just saw a clip of Reuben Bain at Tampa Bay Buccaneer practice. an hour afterwards kind of working the hoop and working the drill. And he gave a stat today, I believe, about the number of stats he had last year in the fourth quarter versus every other quarter. And then we think during pro days or recruiting visits, I forget what it was, Bain was wearing his shoulder pads at the pool talking to, like, the next class that was potentially coming here. The culture being instituted down there in Miami, a lot of distractions, obviously, down there in South Florida.

2:27:54Pat McAfee:But having that all-in, dog-fight-everybody mentality culture being in place how comforting is that for you and is that an everyday process still trying to beat it into folks like we just heard coach rod talking about what he's trying to establish at west virginia well well i think two things number one they're really i mean you either create distractions or you just don't i don't i don't buy into that there's a lot of distractions down here i mean you're going off the high dive in a bikini underwear that might cause distractions but you either choose distractions or you choose not to have them okay it's not a bikini it was a Speedo, thank you.

2:28:28Pat McAfee:Please have some respect, K. You know, pal, what I think you would enjoy is that, you know, Reuben Bain is still on the thread with all the defensive linemen, and he's in on tape, he's in on drill work, and he is absolutely ripping people's butts if they ain't doing it to the standard. And I think you're getting the same from Keontae Scott, CJ Daniels, you know, CC Mino. So it's almost like these guys have taken it upon themselves to become, like, culture enforcers and that that influence has been strong our guys feel it um and it's it's played out in a manner where we're getting better you know this time you want to galvanize right you want to you want to toughen up you want to become more callous you want to build resilience and you want to find out what your identity is well part of that is making sure that you're becoming callous man you could deal with all the the crap that we throw at you during camp and fight through pain this comfort this this certainly is not the time for ease and comfort right yeah definitely not And I think obviously it's worked for you quickly down there.

2:29:27Pat McAfee:And you talked about Reuben Bain still getting on everybody about what the culture is at Miami and what you guys have established. I think coach Saban told the story about Julio Jones went back to Alabama and was working out and he watched like a summer practice happen or something like that. And it was a bunch of wide receivers. And I guess Julio called him all over and said, this is not how this goes at all. And Nick Saban credits that for being how and why it took place. So your players doing that for you. Congratulations. It's not an easy thing to accomplish. AJ has a question for you, Coach.

2:29:54Yeah, Coach, you mentioned you've taken your players and your coaches to the edge throughout this training camp so far. I guess, where is the edge? How do you know where the edge is to where you do have to maybe possibly back off a bit? We know it's crazy hot down there. It's physical. It's what you do. But, yeah, where do you draw the line? You know, everybody's got to get better. You know, I often, like, I lose my mind when people say, well, you have to find players that love football. Well, that's bullshit. You've got to find coaches that love football too because if they love it, they'll do whatever it takes to be one to know and so we got to put coaches in adverse situations as well you know i might put something on the script and blow the horn say no man coming out one yard line or going the other way fourth and one after running some extra gasters or whatever we have to test everybody and when i say the edge it's that point where you're going to have a breakdown or a breakthrough and somehow some way we've got a coach teach guide and then just flat out push to get a breakthrough right that's the only way to get better and the more competition we create like legitimate competition not just you know bs stuff to throw this guy in there just to compete but like create like dogs getting after dogs iron sharpens iron and every potential every possible drill we can um and then pitting the coordinators and the coaches against each other i mean the best part about is watching the o-line d-line coach beef you know and watch the wide receiver coaches and the db coaches 10 second 10 second route right there yeah right it's almost like old school wrestlemania like the battle you know like the royal rumble right it's just all kinds of chaotic noise intensity physicality going on and then all that chaos when everybody's losing their heads we got to teach our people to keep their heads and play ball and play the next play so uh really really good stuff for camp and again we've we've improved a lot but we're not we're not where we need to be yeah we have a lot of work to do you're gonna have a breakdown or a

2:31:43Pat McAfee:breakthrough that's a bar hey listen that was a bar as it was coming out you knew it was a bar too It was like, as I was saying, and you talk about pushing the edge. Do you watch the gringos down there? Do we worry? You know, because the sun is real down there. You know, that is something that my particular Caucasoid, not good. I mean, I almost died doing game day down there. I couldn't imagine practice. I don't know if you'd ever recruit me down there, but, you know, I would like a mucho's gracias water break a little bit earlier. You know what I mean? Yeah, the heat index, you know, it gets up there.

2:32:12I think we had 107, 110 or whatnot. But, you know, we're mindful of it. You know, we do it strategically and smart, but, I mean, there are going to be games that we are playing in that kind of stuff. So you have to get after it, man. You can handle it. You know, you've already proven that. It's your kind of stuff, man.

2:32:28Pat McAfee:Well, it's a huge advantage. We talk about it in the NFL a lot, like teams that go in the north that have to travel down to Miami in the season. Humidity is just a completely different conditioning animal. It feels like you guys training in there certainly helps going forward. Let's talk about some of the team now that you have. But you know what? I do want to add, if I could for one second, If you look at Miami's national record for home wins, 58 home wins in a row, right? In those years, I think last year was 1994, if I'm not mistaken. Well, back then, you weren't relegated to TV times and kickoffs.

2:32:58You chose your home kickoff times. Well, about 85%, 95 % of those were at noon down here in South Florida. You can imagine teams traveling here where there's a 510 heat index. That plays a big role, man.

2:33:11Pat McAfee:Yeah. Hey, you know we're close to the equator here. Yeah, at noon, that thing's right. There's nowhere to hide. That is a Caribbean city down there. It is hot. That's what I'm talking about. You get a team from Big Ten travel down there looking like my ass down there. You know, we're turning tomato red before the game even starts. That's quite an advantage. That is quite an advantage. Now you guys got to play primetime because everybody's expecting you to continue to go on a run. You got a quarterback from the ACC champs. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Coach, how impressed have you been with Darian Mensah so far?

2:33:43A lot of the reports, and again, we're not down there, so who knows? You kind of take everything with a grain of salt. But they've talked about how impressive he's been, how unreal, almost picking up right where you guys left off last year. So how impressed have you been with him, and how has the team kind of taken to him being that it is his first year there? He's a dog, man. He really is. I mean, we've been lucky, and I feel like it's a broken record type of scenario. He's another guy that absolutely has no worries or concerns about personal accolades. He wants to win. He wants to see his teammates do well.

2:34:17He is relentless about getting in here, watching the film, pushing himself, pushing his teammates. Insane energy. Like, you can't get him in a bad mood. And then what he does on the field between pocket presence, awareness, delivering the ball on the money, knowing where to go with the football. Another guy that understands the line of scrimmage really, really well. can get to the right play, runner pass, autonomy, you know, in his hands as it relates to the offense. This guy is special. And again, he's a special human being. He's very, very driven. All he's worried about is going 1-0, man.

2:34:48Pat McAfee:Yeah, 1-0 would be great. He's got a guy he's throwing the ball to that might be one of one. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Coach, talking about Malachi Tony, it feels like he took over college football immediately last year. What have you seen from him year one to year two? You talk about culture, guys. It feels like he's one of the hardest workers. has he grown his game and how big has he been for Mensa and him coming in right away and having that weapon yeah you should follow him around one day by the way he did tell me he want to send you guys some book bags he has some pretty cool book bags yeah we'd like I love book bags I love I love going to class with them I I you absolutely never went to class but anyways we'll get those Yo, soy super academia, dude.

2:35:31Malachi Tony is, man, again, he's just different. I feel like, again, we're blessed with a bunch of dudes that get it. The best part about him, he thinks he's nowhere near his potential. Like, that guy is relentless in his pursuit to be the absolute best he can be. The thing you'll like about him, he's about 12 pounds heavier. Like, he is rocked up. his XL, D-cell rate, stop-and-go rate, and just flat-out top-end speed have reached new personal bests. So you can expect a better version of Malachi Tony this year.

2:36:01Pat McAfee:And he keeps working off, Susan. Yo soy, poor bibliotech, too, a lot of that. He was at the library, wasn't he? He's been doing a lot of that. I know. He was working with JSN. See, dude. In jean shorts. Yeah, see? Yes, he was. He was down at Antonio Brown's wide receiver camp, I think, wearing like three-quarter length jean shorts, just cutting everybody up. It was unbelievable watching the work ethic from all of your guys. Last question has to be brought up. You're not going to like it. You are not going to like what is about to be asked. But it has to be asked this college football showcase.

2:36:35Pat McAfee:Tone has a last question for you. Yeah, Coach, I love that this fell on me because you know and I know that the ACC is not down. But the national narrative is that the ACC is down. I know there's a lot of good teams. there's Clemson, there's Louisville, there's SMU, there's still all the Virginia Tech is back. I know it all, so I don't have to tell that to you. But the national narrative is that the ACC is down. Does that put any pressure on you when people say, oh, Miami's got to go 11-1 or 12-0 to make the playoffs? Does that creep into your brain at all during this? No, I think my parents were wiring me differently.

2:37:08I think people that live their lives in narratives and predictions and all that bullshit, I think they failed the human race and their kids. I think you look at the record of the ACC in the postseason and the way we played and look at it. At the end of the day, we had a good run. We didn't finish it. But our losses came against teams in our conference. And, you know, I think it's at some point in time, we've got to see things for what they are instead of creating narratives. Like, I'm offended when they say Miami should have beat these teams. Well, maybe those teams are really good teams that we should have looked at in a more prestigious light.

2:37:46You know, there's really good football. There's really good coaching. Schematically, there's all kinds of great. And it's a league of great quarterbacks as well. Where at the end of the day, call it what it is, who had the most trench players drafted in the first round. The ACC did. So, proud to be a member of the conference. Looking forward to another great year. And as far as the average, brother, don't get me started, please.

2:38:06Pat McAfee:Okay, you kind of did get started there a little bit. I thought we did have you started. I really did. And you kind of, you said, all right, okay. I've said it's bullshit. I got Cam over here, like, throwing, like, papers at me. Like, dude, chill. Now's not the time. You're the man. We appreciate you taking time and joining us. Good luck this year. We'll see you down the road, hopefully very soon. Appreciate you guys. Go Canes. Have a great one, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Coach Cristobal. Yeah, Coach. Now, I talked to the general manager of the Stanford football team, okay, in Canton, Ohio.

2:38:38Pat McAfee:Mm-hmm. and I said, a little boost up, having a good time. Hey, we got to get you out of there and get you to a place that can win, okay? Because I assume you're very good at what you're doing right now, okay? I assume you're very, very good at what you're doing to Andrew Luck, who's the general manager of Stanford. And he goes, no, I believe in Stanford. He said that he thinks they have the support to be able to build it. He thinks that they're going to be able to find their guys that they had in the past. Andrew Luck is a firm believer in Stanford over the next three, four, five years. Wow. And that's me and him boozed up at a Hall of Fame party and me immediately going to him, we got to get you out of there.

2:39:16Pat McAfee:That's what I said to him. And he was just like, no, let me explain this to you. I'm like, all right, I'm a believer. All right, I think you'll figure it out. I believe in Andrew Luck. So if Andrew Luck believes in it, I believe in him. And now, is he going to be able to get guys to go there as opposed to like Notre Dame, who is getting similar types of guys whenever it comes to like academia and how it's all going? We shall see. But the ACC, now All-Coast Conference, people forget about that con man. Yeah, both sides. You got to look out. There's a lot of talent there. People forget the greatest coach of all time is the head coach of one of those teams.

2:39:45But riddle me this, Andrew Luck. Let's say a job opens up at a place that you used to play for. You're telling me you're not going to come home and finish the job? Finish the fulfilled promise? You know? I mean, I'm just saying.

2:39:58Pat McAfee:You're talking about the Indianapolis Colts? I'm talking about the Indianapolis Colts. Things happen, okay? He believes in Stanford. A coach will win a Super Bowl. Things happen. This is a college football showcase. People get fired every day. Because of you. No. Not good to me. Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of because of you. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man. Never been fired. Yeah, no. Cleveland? No, I think one time. No. I don't know. I'm pretty sure he brought it up one time. Joining it? Fins, maybe? Oh, the Dolphins? No, we did not. Okay. I think he's brought up. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, seven-time national champion, the GOAT, friend of the program, college game day superstar, Coach Nick Saban.

2:40:44Pat McAfee:Hey, Coach! Coach, you ever get fired? Yeah. Yeah, I talked to you about that. I got fired when I was a defensive back coach at Ohio State. Oh, I forgot about that. Thanks a lot, AJ. I forgot about that. Thanks a lot, Hoggle. Thanks for being his inspiration to kill everybody all the time, AJ. You're the Michael Jordan got cut from his basketball team story. Thanks, Ohio State. You created an out - I actually love Ohio State. I mean, I've always liked Ohio State. I loved it when I coached there. It's a great institution. So it was my fault I got fired. I can't blame anybody else for that. But one comment I have to make because I sat here and listened to Mario Cristobal, who I love as a coach, being our offensive line coach, great enthusiasm.

2:41:29this guy is the best salesman in the history of ball i mean he's a great recruiter but if he ever gets fired he'll be the best used car salesman in south i guarantee no doubt you got a couple dealerships he calls me up with this acc bullshit

2:41:51Pat McAfee:oh what's he saying hey let's remember acc good conference he just did it right there is that the story he's telling you as well yeah he's always trying to convince me that the acc is better than the sec the sec has nine teams in the top 25 that's all i know it's a deep conference it just is now i know that the big 10 is a really good conference and getting better when it comes to depth but really good at the top with you know high state and oregon and so but anyway it is what it is but he's never going to convince me never better than the SEC all right well Miami ACC school ended up in the national championship against Big Ten school so I assume he could always just throw that in your face and say who lasted longer the ACC did let's talk about the SEC you were on here to represent the SEC so thank you for taking that role and running with it immediately upon getting on air Georgia highest ranked SEC school obviously Texas is also ranked up there you have uh texas a &m old miss oklahoma lsu a plethora of sec schools ranked after you kind of get out of the top five there your thoughts on where the sec is kind of viewed right now and how this season is going to go and is kirby legitimately the hope for the sec to kind of get college football title and crown back to the south right well you know i talked kirby and stark both and i think both those guys have really really good teams and i think they're probably the two teams that at least on paper looking at the season probably have the best chance to be successful and maybe go a long way in the playoffs.

2:43:30I think there's other teams that definitely can challenge them. You mentioned them, including Alabama, who has a lot of unknowns and may be able to sneak up on people a little bit this year under the radar. But I like Georgia's team. and you know what I've noticed about you know this new era of college football with lots of transfers and changing rosters the people that can keep their players and they have an aging team like Georgia had a very young team last year they're going to be an older team this year I think Texas is going to be a little bit more mature as a team this year and I think that gives you a huge advantage indiana last year was a very mature team when it comes to age experience of players that matters when you got 23 and 24 year old guys playing it's a lot different 18 and 19

2:44:23Pat McAfee:five for five happening there so there is potentially going to be continue to be 23 and 24 year olds because your clock starts at 19 the latest so 24 seemingly the oldest you can be going forward there will be some exemptions going forward we assume but 24 should be the oldest but There was 25, 26. There was a long time. 28-year-olds. The COVID years really gave some leniency, it felt like, in the courts where people could continue to play, especially if they're making money. Feels like we're getting a handle of it while injunctions are happening all over the place. Let's continue to talk on the field.

2:44:54Pat McAfee:Go ahead, AJ, for Coach. Yeah, Coach, what are your expectations? We had Matt Campbell, head coach at Penn State, on. He's stepping into that role. What are your expectations for them? People think their schedule might be somewhat favorsome for them, avoiding some of the bigger teams in the Big Ten. What do you expect from him this year? Well, you know, I think Matt Campbell's a really good coach. I think Penn State is an outstanding job. You know, it's so difficult, and I don't think fans understand this sometimes. They say we've got a lot of new players in the portal, and they talk about all the players that they've got.

2:45:27But they've lost that many players, too. Like Lane says, everybody says we've got 53 new players at LSU. Well, we lost 53 players. That's the only way we get the other 53. So you never really know exactly, you know, how good a team's going to be in transition. And if you're fortunate, which, you know, Kirk Signetti probably did the best job of anybody in transition in bringing players with him that had a significant impact and building on the players that he had there. And I think Matt Campbell has an opportunity to do the same thing at Penn State. Maybe not as immediate, but I do think he's a very good coach and I think he'll do a good job there.

2:46:07Expectations, you know, I mean, to me, expectations are useless in the coaching profession. I mean, everybody thinks that I have to meet expectations. I always coached like I had to meet my expectation. My expectation was we want to win every game, be the best team we can be, and get everybody on the team playing as well as I can. I didn't give a damn about what some guy running around in his mom's basement in his underwear thought about what kind of team we had what kind of team we should have so i think expectations fine bomb wasn't wearing underwear in the basement okay that is that guy too okay even if he's wearing pants as well i appreciate

2:46:47Pat McAfee:you saying the expectations on yourself should obviously be a bunch higher than outside but at penn state matt gamble is going to be expected to win i mean that's why they fired a coach five weeks into the season or six weeks into the season whatever the case is that's big ball these days It's big business as well. Last question, obviously, as we will transition to a digital college football showcase with Coach Saban as we return back to the Little League World Series in about two minutes or so. Let's go down to Alabama. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Coach, always a pleasure. You look fantastic. But Alabama has this quarterback competition going on.

2:47:18Is that tough for a team having that competition happening, or does the team kind of know early on who's it going to be? And also, if you just want to announce who the starting quarterback for Alabama is this year, Feel free to do that. Yeah, I don't really know who the starter's going to be. I think both guys are probably pretty capable. They're a little different. You know, Keaton Russell's a little bit more athletic, can run it. He's a good passer, though. I don't know where his decision-making and development is relative to the staff. The other guy, Mac, has a little more experience. So I don't know exactly where they're at with that.

2:47:52I think it's going to be imperative, though, that the offensive line play better so that the quarterback, whoever it is, has an opportunity to play better because, you know, I thought Ty Simpson was under a hell of a lot of pressure the second half of the season all the time. And their ability to run the ball and stand favorable down the distance is going to have something to do with that as well. But I do not know who the starting quarterback is going to be. And I have watched, you know, some of the tape, and I've been very impressed with both guys. They're different. Well, Keelan is more of a playmaker because of his legs, but that's up to, you know, Coach.

2:48:30Pat McAfee:Well, for the first time since St. Nick arrived down there in Tuscaloosa, they aren't ranked in the top ten. Crazy. A lot of pressure. We wrap up here and continue digitally as Washington will take on Texas in the Little League World Series, Big Ten versus the SEC. And Coach Saban will be joining us yet again all season long on Friday. Yeah! Thank you for that. I enjoyed this. This is fun for me, man. You guys are my favorite. I'd hire every – if I got a coaching job, I'd hire every one of you guys to coach something. I don't know what. I'd hire you to coach something. Yes, okay. That was a great way to end it.

2:49:06Pat McAfee:Love that. Love that, Coach. I accept. Unbelievable. I'll be the OC. Okay, he'll sell a Ferrari. I'll call play. Yeah, whatever you need him to do. If you need somebody to pick up your America's best, I think we got guys that can do that. Sure, there you go. We got guys that can keep track of all of that. Start a farm of it. Yeah, whatever you need. Till the land. We got John Deere waiting to get you some more America's Best. That's my favorite thing is you are, deep down, West Virginia football. Greatest coach of all time, obviously, whenever it comes to college football. Nobody disputes that.

2:49:35Pat McAfee:But deep down, okay, and this owner of the Nashville Predators and obviously everything else, super genius, West Virginia football guy. Just read down anything. Yeah, Predators need that. They suck. I feel like the Mountaineers now. They're great. Come on. It's home, baby. Yeah, you need to be a little bit more fucking positive on air, okay, on game day about the West Virginia Mountaineers, okay? We need that out of you. West Virginia needs that out of you. Well, I look at it this way. They need to do something to make me be positive. Okay. Okay. Earning, obviously, is something in this world.

2:50:11Pat McAfee:Okay, let's continue this conversation about college football. We appreciate you joining us, Coach. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt. Coach, I know you mentioned all the things about, like, expectations, and I think that's a good point, and I agree with you. But when you look at Lane and, you know, what's going on at LSU, like, is it kind of national championship or bust this year? Kind of just with all the whirlwind of the stuff that happened in the offseason, the roster, how much money they're spending, just all the conversation around that. Like, is that is Baton Rouge going to burn down if LSU isn't contending for a national championship this year?

2:50:44No, I don't think Baton Rouge is going to burn down. I think, you know, they've always had they have great passion there. They have high expectations. They want to be successful, you know, and they don't have a lot of patience. But I'll tell you what, I think Lane has done a really good job building good roster. And I think that the key to the drill for him is going to be in the first year, does he have enough depth on this team, even though they have 30, 53 new players? Is there enough depth on this team for them to be able to sustain at a high level? I think the quarterback is going to be pretty good.

2:51:17I think he'll be one of the surprise guys, you know, in college football this year. I liked him when he played at Arizona State two years ago. Went through some injury things a year ago. They got that big old tight end that's a mismatched guy. They've got some really good defensive players. That safety they got from Boise State, man, that guy is a thumper, and he's got great size. So they have a lot of good things going for them. I really do believe that. And they got a good defensive coordinator. Lane hired a really good staff. So, I mean, there's a lot of positives. And the one thing I tried to do when I was a coach at LSU, which is really hard, it was really hard, is to keep the people positive.

2:51:58You know, I used to tell the fans, you're part of the team. And when you all boo the team, walk out on the team, you're not helping us win. You're not helping us do what we all want to do, which is win. And win big. So be positive, stay supportive, you know, help the guy through the transition. But I think they're going to have a pretty good team.

2:52:21Pat McAfee:That right there is the tight end that he's talking about. 14 is not a wide receiver. He's tight end. Defense, obviously, athletes everywhere. Everybody in college sports, whenever Lane Kiffin could potentially head to LSU, was saying to me, hey, he needs to go down there. Okay, you get – there's just five stars everywhere. And literally he was greeted by, what, the best offensive lineman and the best defensive lineman in the country whenever he got down there to LSU. And then obviously with the transfer portal, he's able to really score through there because he has a resume of success, explosive plays, primetime stuff and everything like that.

2:52:51Pat McAfee:And they have money down there. They obviously are a big, big part of NIL in the college football space, which is why allegedly Lane also picked them over anywhere else. So they should have success. Sam Levitt could spin it. Oh, yeah. Lane Kiffin is going to be able to draw it up. I love that your messaging is, hey, can you guys please just, like, if we don't win by 50, can we be a little bit happier about this entire thing? Because all they want to say is, hey-oh.

2:53:22Hey, Pat, I used to tell them, too, they'd leave. You know, the stadium would be half empty before the game was over. I said, you want the players to play for 60 minutes? You all need to keep your ass in the stands for 60 minutes. But I will say this, and I told Lane this, and I think I probably told you this before, too. You know, Belichick used to make us do all kind of crazy projects when I was at the Cleveland Browns. And he made us say, where are the most players? What state do the most players in the NFL come from? And it was California, Texas. You know, there was a lot of different Florida.

2:53:53But then he said, I want to know where they come from per capita. What state has the most players per capita? And it was Louisiana. and that's the reason I took the job. And I'm going to tell you what, it was right. It was 15 to 18 really, really good football players that you could get out of Louisiana every year, and you got a good enough national reputation to recruit some really good players from other places, and that was about the easiest place I ever had to recruit to.

2:54:23Pat McAfee:Got a great uniform. Yeah. Mark Tiger, he's back on the sideline. I want to hear him roar, you know. Governor Jeff Landry wants to hear that Tiger roar. He hit the cage. He let that thing roar a little bit. That's what he wants to hear. You are so bad. I fucking want to hear that. That's part of a family of memories. We would poke the tiger, poke the bell. And how do you think the other team felt about that fucking tiger? I cannot wait. It's going to be 200 degrees down there. Cannot wait to get down there. Coach, we can't wait to see you on the road. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. All right.

2:54:59Well, hey, appreciate you having me. Always enjoyable. You guys have a good day. Thanks.

2:55:04Pat McAfee:How was the offseason golf? Good? Oh, it's getting good. It's been good and bad, but it's good right now. Got a good tan. Thomas Terry, we said hello, and everybody else, we appreciate you. That's a goat, ladies and gentlemen. Nick Saban. Yeah, coach. That was College Football Showcase. Boom. Great. Six days. Six days until week zero, AJ. And if this goes in, it's going to be a best season yet. Okay. Oh, no, too far, too strong. You need to throw a football. The basketball doesn't count.

2:55:36Pat McAfee:Oh, we'll count it. Yeah, still going to be a best season yet. Yeah, still going to be a best season yet. Yeah, no question. Here you go, here you go. Yep, set hut.

2:55:47Pat McAfee:Oh, my gosh. I feel good about spinning. Yeah, there's Alabama football down there, too. Yeah, little. Also, little note. I don't know if that one's going to work. It's going to be very hot. That one's slipped. Oh, yeah, it's right on. Oh. For the best season yet. College football. Fuck. Maybe not. It's okay. We did this with injuries. No, no, still going to do it. I don't like what this. No, you still have, what, six days? To hit one. Yeah. Yeah, you got time. This ball is going to be talked about at some point. Mm-hmm. See this ball right here, AJ? Might have saw some news today. What's the story behind that?

2:56:26Maybe someday you'll learn. okay great tease maybe you'll all fucking learn you know maybe you will someday soon yeah very soon it sounds like potentially wise you up aj yeah what's your name what what's your fucking name what's going on yeah exactly shut the fuck up okay people will know what that means here in a little bit that's very exciting stuff people are gonna be so mad yeah fuck them yeah

2:56:56Pat McAfee:That's what I've learned this week. Man, it got real loud there for a bit. I learned a lot about a lot of people who have just been kind of waiting to fucking, you know, abs, you know? Just kind of waiting. Hold on. Hold. Hold. Now we go, yep, fuck this guy. And I appreciate it. And I won't remember every single one of you. I'm going to be around for a while, you know? So I hope we run into each other. I hope we get a chance. And good luck to all of you. I am very lucky and thankful that we get to do this every single day. We have the time of our life covering sports. We love sports. For the good of sport, for the good of ball, is what we literally are trying to do every single day.

2:57:31Pat McAfee:And we're thankful and lucky that we get to do it. That's AJ Hawk. The Talks table is here. Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt. One over the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP turn. The boys in the back. Way to go, boys. Way to go, boys. Good night, boys. Way to go, boys. Gump, I love that we're tucking in the kit, pal. It looks awesome. Might go full time. Can we stand up? Yeah. Maybe come. Gump, you want to come out here and just kind of show the kit tucked in fully? You've been working hard. Yeah. He's kind of cool looking. I thought there was no chance. He's very proud of it. What do we want him to do? You want him to do like a catwalk?

2:58:01Pat McAfee:Yes. Maybe dribble a soccer ball. Where's the footy? Oh, yeah. Maybe juggle a bit. Yeah, juggle a bit. Dribble. Dribble. Oh, he's got the tucked in kit there, Paul. Starting for the Liverpool. Look at this guy. Bad goal. Yeah. Look at this guy. You look good, girl.

2:58:26Pat McAfee:Okay. Well done. Good touch. That's a goal! Good touch. Good touch. Good ball. Goal! Goal!

2:58:41Pat McAfee:To the graphic design boys. Good work this week, boys. Good work, boys. The Pete Damo graphic was egregious. We should hang that on the wall somewhere in here. Yeah, definitely. Zito, Tim, great work here. unbelievable stuff this week it was loud this week, it was fun though I'm excited for the football season it's about to be the biggest and best season yet be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change their life for instance, we love all of you we thank all of you we'll see all of you on Monday team on me, team on three for the good of sport baby one, two, three, team, goodbye